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Prologue: Prologue Emmanuel Dzotsi From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
序言：序言 来自 WBEZ 芝加哥的 Emmanuel Dzotsi，这就是《美国生活》。
I'm Emmanuel Dzotsi, sitting in for Ira Glass.
我是伊曼纽尔·佐西 (Emmanuel Dzotsi)，代理艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass)。
So about two months ago, I left work in the middle of the day and joined about 100 million people worldwide in a very particular kind of prayer.
大约两个月前，我中午下班，和全世界大约一亿人一起进行了一次非常特殊的祈祷。
Now, I wish I could tell you that I was praying for a fix to any of the world's problems.
现在，我希望我能告诉你，我正在祈祷解决世界上的任何问题。
But I wasn't.
但我不是。
Instead, I was standing in a crowded bar in downtown Brooklyn, screaming my lungs off for my favorite British soccer team, Arsenal Football Club.
相反，我站在布鲁克林市中心一家拥挤的酒吧里，为我最喜欢的英国足球队阿森纳足球俱乐部大声尖叫。
[CHEERING] Emmanuel Dzotsi Come on, Arsenal.
[欢呼] Emmanuel Dzotsi 加油，阿森纳。
Come on!
快点！
Arsenal!
兵工厂！
Arsenal!
兵工厂！
Arsenal!
兵工厂！
Arsenal!
兵工厂！
Arsenal!
兵工厂！
Arsenal are my hometown London team.
阿森纳是我的家乡伦敦球队。
A lot of the fans in the bar are just like me.
酒吧里很多粉丝和我一样。
There's quite a few Brits, lots of Black 30-somethings, probably because when I was a kid, I swear, Arsenal catfished an entire generation of us into supporting them.
有相当多的英国人，很多 30 多岁的黑人，可能是因为当我还是个孩子的时候，我发誓，阿森纳诱骗了我们整整一代人来支持他们。
They played some of the best soccer I've ever seen with a team full of all these Black legends.
他们与一支充满黑人传奇人物的球队一起踢出了我所见过的最好的足球。
They went an entire season without losing a game in the British Premier League.
他们整个赛季在英超联赛中没有输过一场比赛。
And then they stopped winning and decided to break my heart every year for the next 20 years.
然后他们不再获胜，并决定在接下来的 20 年里每年都让我心碎。
My brothers and sisters in Christ, I have seen some things.
我在基督里的弟兄姐妹们，我看到了一些事情。
I've seen us lose by record margins.
我见过我们以创纪录的差距输掉比赛。
I've seen two separate seasons derailed by horrific, "Why did you show that in slow motion?" leg breaks.
我见过两个不同的季节因可怕的“你为什么用慢动作来展示这一点？”而脱轨。腿断了。
I saw one of my favorite players leave us for our rivals, beat us to win a trophy, and then thank us sarcastically afterwards.
我看到我最喜欢的球员之一离开我们去了我们的对手，击败我们赢得了奖杯，然后讽刺地感谢我们。
Arsenal have sometimes upset me so much that, for the sake of the people I love, I have had to deliberately skip games the day of family events, just because I don't want to look stricken in our photos.
阿森纳有时让我非常沮丧，为了我所爱的人，我不得不在家庭活动当天故意缺席比赛，只是因为我不想在我们的照片中看起来很沮丧。
But then three years ago, lots of things just kind of started to go our way.
但三年前，很多事情开始朝着我们的方向发展。
We finished that season as the second-best team in England.
我们以英格兰第二好的球队的身份结束了那个赛季。
And since then, it just feels like we've been inching ever closer to becoming winners again.
从那时起，我们就感觉我们离再次成为胜利者越来越近了。
We've got this young coach my mum says is far too pretty to be so smart.
我们有一位年轻的教练，我妈妈说她太漂亮了，不可能这么聪明。
We have a star player who-- I don't know-- I love like he's my own son.
我们有一位明星球员——我不知道——我爱他，就像他是我自己的儿子一样。
And this most recent season, we went on this miraculous run in European soccer's biggest competition, the Champions League-- I'm talking defensive masterclasses, big upsets, players scoring the kind of goals they've never scored before in their entire lives.
最近这个赛季，我们在欧洲足球最大的赛事——冠军联赛中取得了奇迹般的成绩——我说的是防守大师班、大冷门、球员们打进了他们一生中从未进球过的进球。
It felt like the conditions at that moment for Arsenal were perfect.
感觉当时阿森纳的条件是完美的。
We had the right players, the right coach.
我们有合适的球员，合适的教练。
And some of our opponents, they were having an uncharacteristically bad year-- which brings us to the day I left work to go to the bar.
我们的一些对手今年过得异常糟糕——这让我们想起了我下班去酒吧的那一天。
We were now at the end of the season in maybe the biggest Arsenal game in 20 years.
我们现在正处于赛季末，这场比赛可能是阿森纳 20 年来最重要的一场比赛。
Arsenal were playing a French team, Paris Saint-Germain, in the semi-finals, a team we knew we could beat.
阿森纳在半决赛中对阵法国球队巴黎圣日耳曼，我们知道我们可以击败一支球队。
In fact, we'd beaten them earlier in the season.
事实上，我们在赛季初就击败了他们。
All we had to do was do it again.
我们所要做的就是再做一次。
And walking around the bar that day before the game, I heard two different feelings from people.
比赛前一天在酒吧里散步时，我听到人们有两种不同的感受。
The first was joy and optimism.
首先是喜悦和乐观。
Like, wow, we could actually win this.
就像，哇，我们真的可以赢得这场比赛。
Then there was the second, sort of nagging feeling, which was people experiencing how great this moment was and feeling dread because of it.
然后是第二种，有点烦人的感觉，那就是人们体验到这一刻是多么伟大，并因此感到恐惧。
Nervous.
紧张的。
Emmanuel Dzotsi You look nervous.
Emmanuel Dzotsi 你看起来很紧张。
Because I'm a realist.
因为我是一个现实主义者。
Emmanuel Dzotsi Say more about that.
Emmanuel Dzotsi 对此可以多说一些。
This is a good opportunity, but I feel like we're at the tail end of our good opportunities.
这是一个很好的机会，但我觉得我们已经处于好机会的尾声了。
It's been good opportunities now for, like, three years.
三年来，这一直是很好的机会。
And I think we're on the other side of the curve.
我认为我们正处于曲线的另一边。
Like, it's ending, this good period-- it's been too good for too long.
就好像，这段美好的时光即将结束——它已经美好了太久了。
I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop or other hat to drop, whatever that saying is.
我在等待另一只鞋掉下来或另一顶帽子掉下来，不管那句话是什么。
This feeling-- that if we didn't win this trophy right now, that it might never happen for this group of players-- was something I heard a lot.
这种感觉——如果我们现在没有赢得这个奖杯，这对这群球员来说可能永远不会发生——是我经常听到的。
Next year, we could lose some players.
明年，我们可能会失去一些球员。
And the other teams could be better than they were this season.
其他球队可能会比本赛季更好。
There are just too many unknowns, and that was making so many Arsenal fans nervous.
有太多的未知数，这让很多阿森纳球迷感到紧张。
Maybe this was as good as things were going to get.
也许事情就这样好了。
There's a name for a period like this.
这样的时期有一个名字。
It's called a championship window, a period of time when all the conditions for your team to win are just right.
这就是所谓的冠军窗口期，这是你的球队获胜的所有条件都恰到好处的一段时间。
And as this game was about to begin, I looked around and was like, oh, that's where Arsenal are.
当这场比赛即将开始时，我环顾四周，心想，哦，那就是阿森纳所在的地方。
It felt like all of us gathered there, had this front-row seat to something historic, something we would definitely tell our kids about one day.
感觉就像我们所有人都聚集在那里，坐在前排观看一件历史性的事情，有一天我们肯定会告诉我们的孩子们。
And that's what today's episode is about-- that period of time.
这就是今天这一集的主题——那段时期。
So this week, while the boss man is away and I am in charge and the conditions are just right, I come to you with stories about championship windows, and not just ones that are about sports.
因此，本周，当老板不在、由我负责并且条件恰到好处时，我会向你们带来有关冠军窗口的故事，而不仅仅是有关体育的故事。
I'm talking championship windows for your body, for your feelings, stories of people trying desperately to seize their moment and finally win their own personal championship.
我说的是你的身体、你的感受的冠军窗口，以及人们拼命试图抓住自己的时刻并最终赢得自己的个人冠军的故事。
So stay with us.
所以和我们一起吧。
Act One: Pregnant, Pause Emmanuel Dzotsi It's This American Life, today's program, Championship Window.
第一幕：怀孕了，暂停 Emmanuel Dzotsi 这就是美国生活，今天的节目，冠军之窗。
We've now reached Act One-- Pregnant, Pause.
我们现在已经到了第一幕——怀孕了，暂停。
So this story is about a championship window that billions of people around the world have passed through, though many of those folks have completely missed it.
所以这个故事是关于世界各地数十亿人已经度过的冠军窗口，尽管其中许多人完全错过了它。
Connie Wang was in that category.
王康妮就属于这一类。
She has the story.
她有故事。
During my first pregnancy, I kept a log of all the weird things that happened to my body, beyond the obvious ones, like a growing belly and swollen ankles.
在我第一次怀孕期间，我记录了我身体上发生的所有奇怪的事情，除了明显的事情，比如越来越大的肚子和肿胀的脚踝。
These changes were random and sudden and almost sinister, as if my body was messing with me just for the fun of it.
这些变化是随机的、突然的、几乎是险恶的，就好像我的身体只是为了好玩而扰乱我一样。
My gums bled.
我的牙龈流血了。
I broke a tooth.
我断了一颗牙。
My boobs began to itch from the inside.
我的胸部开始从里面发痒。
Varicose veins sprouted all over my legs-- and other places too.
我的腿上以及其他地方都出现了静脉曲张。
The pinky on my right hand clicked each time I bent it.
每次我弯曲右手的小指时，它都会发出咔嗒声。
And my right foot-- and only my right foot-- was always hot.
我的右脚——而且只有我的右脚——总是很热。
There were some nice things that happened too.
也发生了一些美好的事情。
My horrible acid reflux disappeared, and the back pain that I've had for five years also stopped bothering me.
我可怕的胃酸反流消失了，五年来的背痛也不再困扰我。
When I read this list to my doctor, he told me that everything I was experiencing was perfectly normal.
当我把这份清单读给我的医生时，他告诉我，我所经历的一切都是完全正常的。
He explained that some of the symptoms were so the fetus could better leach the nutrients, calcium, and blood out of me and into it.
他解释说，有些症状是为了让胎儿更好地将营养物质、钙和血液从我体内滤出并进入体内。
The other elements were because my body was breaking itself apart so that it could eventually extrude a whole other body.
其他元素是因为我的身体正在分裂自己，以便最终可以挤出另一个完整的身体。
Then my doctor said, after the delivery, all the pregnancy hormones that made me so pliable and scrambled would leave my body, and my bones, joints, organs, and muscles would find their way home again and lock back into place.
然后我的医生说，分娩后，所有让我如此柔韧和混乱的怀孕激素都会离开我的身体，我的骨骼、关节、器官和肌肉会再次找到回家的路并锁定回原位。
Most of the things on my list would disappear, but some things might remain.
我清单上的大部分事情都会消失，但有些事情可能会保留下来。
Among everything on the list, it was my back pain-- rather, the lack of back pain-- that I wished would be a forever thing.
在清单上的所有事情中，我希望我的背痛——更确切地说，不再有背痛——成为永远的事情。
I had tweaked it in my 20s during a move.
我在20多岁的时候搬家的时候就调整过它。
And for five years, it kept me from doing basic things, like tying my shoes without sitting down on the floor, or even leaning over the sink to brush my teeth.
五年来，它让我无法做一些基本的事情，比如不坐在地板上系鞋带，甚至靠在水槽上刷牙。
Pregnant, even with a massive belly and jello legs, I could lower myself onto the floor to squat without my back giving out.
怀孕了，即使我的肚子很大，腿像果冻一样，我也可以蹲在地板上，而不会让我的背部垮掉。
It would be amazing if the pain never returned.
如果疼痛不再出现，那就太神奇了。
My doctor said that was unlikely, but my mom actually had a whole theory about how exactly to keep my back pain away.
我的医生说这不太可能，但我妈妈实际上对如何准确地远离我的背痛有一套完整的理论。
She told me I should actively take advantage of the window of time right after I gave birth, before my body locked back into place.
她告诉我，在我的身体恢复原状之前，我应该积极利用产后的这段时间。
She wanted me to zuo yue zi-- to do postpartum confinement.
她要我坐月子。
The word confinement sounds worse than it actually is.
禁闭这个词听起来比实际情况更糟糕。
Technically, you are not actually confined.
从技术上讲，你实际上并没有受到限制。
There are no locks or constraints, which is extraordinary when you hear how draconian the rules of confinement are, according to traditional Chinese standards-- no cold foods, including cold beverages, no spicy foods, no strong flavors, and no deviating from the strict diet.
没有任何锁或限制，当你听说按照中国传统标准坐月子的规则是多么严厉时，这是很了不起的——不吃冷食，包括冷饮，不吃辛辣食物，不吃重口味，不偏离严格的饮食习惯。
No bathing, no washing your hair, no open windows or air conditioning, no leaving your home, no bare feet, no exercising, no housework, no reading, no TV, and absolutely no crying.
不准洗澡、不准洗头、不准开窗、不准开空调、不准出门、不准赤脚、不准运动、不准做家务、不准看书、不准看电视、更不许哭泣。
And you have to do this for at least 30 days.
而且你必须这样做至少 30 天。
This kind of methodical postpartum bed rest is actually pretty common in many cultures where new moms receive a lot help, especially right after birth-- so, obviously, not in America.
这种有条不紊的产后卧床实际上在许多文化中都很常见，新妈妈们会得到很多帮助，尤其是在出生后——所以，显然，在美国并非如此。
And the promise of confinement-- in Chinese culture, at least-- is that at the end, not only will your body heal from the delivery, but if you really do it right, you can guide your body back together in a way that's even better than before you were pregnant.
至少在中国文化中，坐月子的承诺是，到最后，你的身体不仅会从分娩中恢复过来，而且如果你真的做得对，你可以引导你的身体恢复到比怀孕前更好的状态。
If you do it right, my mom told me, you could fix your back.
我妈妈告诉我，如果你做得对，你就能治好你的背。
It didn't have to be that bad, she said, especially if you got rid of the outdated rules invented before germ theory and indoor plumbing.
她说，情况不一定那么糟糕，特别是如果你摆脱了细菌理论和室内管道之前发明的过时规则。
I could wash my hair and watch TV.
我可以洗头看电视。
Still, no, I wasn't going to do it.
不过，不，我不打算这么做。
I had always found confinement to be sort of offensive.
我一直觉得禁闭有点令人反感。
Treating a woman as a delicate, breakable, incapable doll seemed insulting.
把女人当作脆弱、易碎、无能的玩偶，似乎是一种侮辱。
I considered myself to be the exact opposite.
我认为自己恰恰相反。
Frankly, I was surprised that my mom was so into me doing confinement.
坦白说，我很惊讶我妈妈这么喜欢我坐月子。
She raised me to be independent and nonconformist, just like her.
她让我像她一样独立、不墨守成规。
She insisted that I should always have my own bank account, even as a fourth grader, that as a woman, I should always be loud and precise at everything I did, that I shouldn't just go along with a thing just because everyone else was doing it.
她坚持认为我应该永远拥有自己的银行账户，即使是作为一个四年级学生，作为一个女人，我应该总是大声而精确地做我所做的每一件事，我不应该仅仅因为其他人都在做某件事就同意它。
The result of all of this is that now I am a stubborn person who loves to believe I'm right, especially when it contradicts common sense.
所有这一切的结果是，现在我是一个固执的人，喜欢相信自己是对的，尤其是当它与常识相矛盾时。
Here's an example.
这是一个例子。
My whole life, I never exercised and was even kind of proud of it, even though doctors and physical therapists told me my back would never fully recover unless I did.
我一生中从未锻炼过，甚至为此感到自豪，尽管医生和物理治疗师告诉我，除非我锻炼，否则我的背部永远不会完全康复。
But there was just something so uncool about doing little squats in my living room or spending $30 on a Pilates lesson-- $50?
但在客厅里做一些深蹲或者花 30 美元去上普拉提课真是太不酷了——50 美元？
How much is Pilates?
普拉提多少钱？
My mom is like this too.
我妈妈也是这样的。
She refuses to look at maps because she's made a decision that she can't read them, which is absurd because she's an accountant who also once edited engineering manuals.
她拒绝看地图，因为她决定不看地图，这很荒谬，因为她是一名会计师，也曾经编辑过工程手册。
Anyways, my mom admitted that she had been skeptical of confinement too.
不管怎样，我妈妈承认她也对坐月子持怀疑态度。
She'd actually skipped it the second time she had a kid, my little sister, something she eventually regretted.
事实上，当她第二次生孩子时，她就跳过了这件事，我的小妹妹，她最终后悔了。
According to mom, the benefits of confinement were a mystery until she tried to go without.
据妈妈说，坐月子的好处一直是个谜，直到她尝试不坐月子。
I should save myself the trial and error and just listen to her.
我应该避免反复尝试，只听她的。
I gave birth via emergency C-section 10 days after I was due.
我在预产期 10 天后通过紧急剖腹产生下了孩子。
When a nurse admired how quickly my wounds were healing, it activated the overachiever in me, and I became determined to prove how talented I was at healing.
当一名护士称赞我的伤口愈合速度有多快时，它激发了我内心的超强成就感，我决心证明自己在治愈方面有多么有天赋。
When the doctor said she wanted to see me walk around the hospital ward once in the next 24 hours, I did it three times.
当医生说她希望我在接下来的24小时内在医院病房里走动一次时，我就走了三遍。
When she told me to wait two weeks before bending over or climbing stairs, I did it as soon as I got home.
当她告诉我要等两周再弯腰或爬楼梯时，我一回家就这么做了。
I felt all sorts of messed up, but also proud of myself for being able to do it.
我感到各种混乱，但也为自己能够做到这一点感到自豪。
Plus, my back was miraculously still pain free.
另外，我的背部奇迹般地仍然没有疼痛。
There's actually a video of me on my first day back home with my newborn in my arms, lowering myself onto the concrete sidewalk so my greyhound could sniff my kid's head.
实际上有一段视频是我回家第一天抱着新生儿，把自己放在水泥人行道上，这样我的灵缇犬就可以嗅我孩子的头。
I posted this video on Instagram, and I remember beaming with pride as more experienced moms commented, squatting?
我在 Instagram 上发布了这段视频，我记得当更有经验的妈妈评论时，我自豪地微笑着，蹲着？
Already?
已经？
Meanwhile, my mom was side-eyeing me, passive-aggressively urging me to sit back down, to put socks on, and to quit drinking so much cold seltzer and drink some bean porridge instead.
与此同时，我妈妈却侧眼看着我，被动地催促我坐下，穿上袜子，别喝那么多冷苏打水，喝点豆粥。
It took two weeks for my back pain to return.
两周后我的背痛才恢复。
And when it came back, it was so much worse than it was before I was pregnant.
当它回来时，情况比我怀孕前糟糕得多。
I had to lean against the walls to walk down the hallway and often found myself stuck on the floor, flat on my back, dialing my husband, who was on the other side of the house, for help.
我必须靠在墙上才能沿着走廊行走，经常发现自己被困在地板上，平躺着，打电话给在房子另一边的丈夫寻求帮助。
I figured out a way to leverage my baby out of his bassinet with a baby blanket and a hinging movement so I didn't have to bend over when I was picking him up.
我想出了一种方法，用婴儿毯和铰链运动将我的宝宝从摇篮中撬出来，这样我在抱起他时就不必弯腰。
It was infuriating.
这真令人气愤。
It was bullshit that my pain had come back even worse.
胡说八道，我的疼痛又回来了，甚至更严重了。
It wasn't just my back.
不仅仅是我的背。
My pelvic floor was barely functioning.
我的骨盆底几乎无法发挥作用。
My C-section scar continued to burn for months after my surgery.
手术后几个月，我的剖腹产疤痕持续灼痛。
Taunting me was the fact that I somehow grew half an inch, evidence that my body had changed in a measurable way, just not at all in the way that I wanted it to.
嘲笑我的是，我不知何故长了半英寸，这证明我的身体发生了可测量的变化，但根本不是我想要的那样。
I had happened upon a magical window of opportunity and completely whiffed it.
我碰巧遇到了一个神奇的机会之窗，但我完全放弃了它。
I had been given a chance at getting better, and instead, I'd used this time to get even worse.
我本来有机会变得更好，但我却利用这段时间变得更糟。
Fast forward four years, and I got a second chance.
四年过去了，我得到了第二次机会。
I got pregnant again.
我又怀孕了。
And, like before, my back pain disappeared.
而且，像以前一样，我的背痛消失了。
I wasn't going to mess it up this time.
这次我不想把事情搞砸了。
So I set up the guest bedroom for my mom and cleared my calendar for 30 days.
所以我为妈妈布置了客房，并清理了 30 天的日历。
I figured the first day would be the easiest.
我认为第一天是最容易的。
After all, I was in the hospital.
毕竟我在医院。
I would wear socks and rest as much as I could.
我会穿袜子并尽可能多地休息。
My first test of willpower was one hour after I gave birth.
我第一次考验意志力是在生完孩子一小时后。
A nurse offered me ice chips, which I declined-- against the rules.
一名护士给了我冰片，我拒绝了——这违反了规定。
But a parade of medical interns kept showing up with ice water.
但一群医疗实习生不断拿着冰水出现。
Do you have room temperature water?
有常温水吗？
I would respond in a saintly and goodly way.
我会以圣洁而善良的方式回应。
By the fourth or fifth time, I began to mutter my question through a scowl, asking for my disgusting lukewarm water.
到了第四、第五次，我开始皱着眉头咕哝着我的问题，要了我恶心的温水。
My husband would absentmindedly swish his own bottle around.
我丈夫会心不在焉地晃动自己的瓶子。
And the ringing peals of ice against metal sounded like the beginning of an argument to me, which was, if you're keeping track, also against the rules.
对我来说，冰块撞击金属的轰鸣声听起来像是一场争论的开始，如果你仔细观察的话，这也是违反规则的。
My doctor told me I had to do two laps around the ward before I could be discharged, which also bumped up against confinement rules.
我的医生告诉我，我必须绕病房转两圈才能出院，这也违反了隔离规定。
So instead of pushing myself to do more, I pushed myself to do the bare minimum.
因此，我没有强迫自己做更多的事情，而是强迫自己做最少的事情。
I took my first lap nearly 24 hours after she had asked, and it took me nearly 30 minutes to complete the small circuit.
在她提出要求后近 24 小时后，我完成了第一圈，我花了近 30 分钟才完成了这条小赛道。
At home, my husband played with our three-year-old while my mother showed me that she had stocked the kitchen with special confinement food-- overnight oats, hard-boiled eggs, blueberries, and raw cashews.
在家里，我丈夫和我们三岁的孩子玩耍，而我母亲则向我展示她在厨房里备有特殊的月子食品——隔夜燕麦、煮鸡蛋、蓝莓和生腰果。
There was a crucible of babaofan, a porridge made of red beans, jujubes, and goji berries that would help me replenish my hemoglobin count.
有一锅八宝饭，这是一种用红豆、大枣和枸杞熬成的粥，可以帮助我补充血红蛋白。
The taste was pleasant and mild, and I was to have it any time I was thirsty, which was constantly.
味道宜人而温和，每当我口渴时我就喝它，而且口渴时我总是这样。
I ate my weird spread of nuts and fruits, porridge and eggs, like some kind of storybook bear who lives inside of a cottage, and found myself oddly satisfied.
我吃了奇怪的坚果和水果、粥和鸡蛋，就像故事书里住在小屋里的熊一样，发现自己感到奇怪的满足。
Maybe confinement was less like a prison and more like an omakase, where you give yourself over to the will of the sushi chef for the sake of your own enjoyment.
也许监禁不像监狱，而更像一个厨师发办，在那里你为了自己的享受而将自己交给寿司厨师的意志。
I had been worried about how I would manage all the sitting.
我一直担心如何应对所有的坐着。
At first, I had the TV on all the time, playing in the background as a matter of habit.
起初，我习惯性地一直开着电视，在后台播放。
But then I found myself going hours without paying attention to whatever was on and just staring at my sleeping baby without thinking about anything in particular.
但后来我发现自己连续几个小时都没有注意到正在发生的事情，只是盯着熟睡的宝宝，没有思考任何特别的事情。
I felt pretty proud of myself for all this nothing.
对于这一切，我感到非常自豪。
I had eaten vats of beans.
我吃过几桶豆子。
The couch had a me-shaped dent in it.
沙发上有一个我形的凹痕。
I never even thought about my back.
我什至从未想过我的背。
It never bothered me even once.
它从来没有困扰过我一次。
I must be healing so well.
我一定恢复得很好。
And so one day during the second week, I decided to pick up all the toys on the floor of my son's room while my baby napped.
因此，第二周的某一天，我决定趁我宝宝小睡的时候，把儿子房间地板上的所有玩具捡起来。
And then I decided I wanted to go see what it would look like if I moved the lamp from the left side of the kitchen to the right, and then what the bookshelf would look like if I separated the nonfiction from the fiction.
然后我决定去看看如果我把灯从厨房的左边移到右边会是什么样子，然后如果我把非小说类作品和小说类作品分开，书架会是什么样子。
I snuck a mini ice cream cone and ate it in one bite and then ate four more.
我偷偷拿了一个迷你蛋卷冰淇淋，一口吃掉，然后又吃了四个。
My mom noticed me puttering around the house and told me I should go sit down.
我妈妈注意到我在房子里闲逛，就告诉我应该坐下来。
I rolled my eyes but went back to my perch on the couch.
我翻了个白眼，但还是回到了沙发上。
Later that day, I went to the bathroom and noticed that I was bleeding more than usual and the color was off.
那天晚些时候，我去了洗手间，发现我的出血量比平时更多，而且颜色也变淡了。
I took my blood pressure, and it was higher than it's ever been.
我量了血压，血压比以前高了。
I found my mom, who was napping with the baby.
我找到了妈妈，她正在和孩子一起睡觉。
And I told her I didn't feel good and that I was scared, which made me feel worse and even more scared.
我告诉她我感觉不舒服，我很害怕，这让我感觉更糟，更害怕。
And so I started crying because I was like, this is it.
所以我开始哭泣，因为我想，就是这样了。
I have internal bleeding.
我有内出血。
I have preeclampsia-- no, no post-eclampsia.
我患有先兆子痫——不，没有先兆子痫。
I'm bleeding out.
我快流血了
I thought I was rearranging some books when, really, I was signing my own death certificate.
我以为我正在重新整理一些书，而实际上，我正在签署自己的死亡证明。
I panic-called my doctor.
我惊慌失措地打电话给我的医生。
And while I was on hold, I used my mom's phone to call my sister, who's also a doctor.
当我等待时，我用妈妈的电话给我姐姐打电话，她也是一名医生。
And everyone told me that the bleeding was fairly normal.
每个人都告诉我出血是很正常的。
As for the elevated blood pressure, I was likely just having a panic attack.
至于血压升高，我可能只是惊恐发作。
I suddenly realized how fragile I was, both physically and mentally, which was a new thing for me to accept.
我突然意识到我的身体和精神是多么脆弱，这对我来说是一个新的接受。
I had hated the idea of confinement because it meant being treated like a weak and broken person.
我讨厌监禁的想法，因为这意味着被当作一个软弱和破碎的人对待。
But that is what childbirth does.
但这就是分娩的作用。
It breaks your body.
它会破坏你的身体。
Practicing confinement acknowledges that truth, which I was discovering is a much better option than ignoring it.
实行禁闭承认了这一事实，我发现这是比忽视它更好的选择。
I returned to my couch divot with a new resolve.
我带着新的决心回到了沙发上。
Two weeks later, I was officially done.
两周后，我正式完成了。
And-- da, da, da-- confinement worked.
而且——哒，哒，哒——禁闭起作用了。
My back felt great.
我的背部感觉很棒。
My C-section scar was almost totally healed.
我的剖腹产疤痕几乎完全愈合了。
Compared to my first time, my body was working a thousand times better.
与第一次相比，我的身体运转得好一千倍。
The biggest change in those 30 days, though, wasn't to my body.
不过，这30天里最大的变化并不是我的身体。
It was to my mind.
这是我的想法。
I was calmer and happier, but I was also less stubborn.
我变得更加平静和快乐，但我也不再那么固执。
I had new proof that sometimes it did make sense to just go along with the thing everyone else was telling me to do.
我有新的证据证明，有时按照别人告诉我做的事情去做确实是有意义的。
So a few weeks after confinement ended, when I felt the tiniest twinge in my back that would usually signal the beginning of another bout of horrible pain, I tried something else.
因此，在禁闭结束几周后，当我感到背部有最轻微的刺痛时，这通常预示着另一轮可怕疼痛的开始，我尝试了其他方法。
Instead of just taking Advil and hoping it'd go away, like I used to, I signed up for a physical therapy workshop and started doing little squats in my living room.
我不再像以前那样只服用止痛药并希望它会消失，而是报名参加了一个物理治疗研讨会，并开始在客厅里做一些深蹲。
Old Connie would have never done this.
老康妮绝不会这么做。
I'm still doing them.
我还在做它们。
A year later, I tie my shoes with ease and brush my teeth, no problem.
一年后，我轻松地系鞋带、刷牙，没有任何问题。
So shout-out to my mom and Chinese confinement-- I bow down to both of you.
所以，向我的妈妈和中国的坐月子大声喊叫——我向你们俩鞠躬。
And I don't even have to hold onto anything to do it.
我什至不需要抓住任何东西就能做到这一点。
That's writer Connie Wang.
那是作家王康妮。
The story was produced by Diane Wu and, we first got the idea to do it from Aaron Reiss.
这个故事由黛安·吴 (Diane Wu) 制作，我们首先从亚伦·赖斯 (Aaron Reiss) 那里得到了制作这个故事的想法。
You can read more about Connie and her mum in her book, Oh My Mother!
您可以在康妮和她妈妈的书《哦我的妈妈！》中阅读更多关于康妮和她妈妈的信息。
Coming up, a group of people I can only describe as cursed try to change their fortunes and, well, I tell you about something that's made being in the office a little awkward.
接下来，一群我只能形容为被诅咒的人试图改变他们的命运，好吧，我告诉你一些让在办公室有点尴尬的事情。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues.
芝加哥公共广播电台一分钟后我们的节目仍在继续。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Emmanuel Dzotsi, filling in for Ira Glass.
我是 Emmanuel Dzotsi，接替 Ira Glass。
Today's program is called Championship Window, stories about trying to achieve their goals in that brief moment where everything is possible.
今天的节目名为“冠军之窗”，讲述在一切皆有可能的短暂时刻努力实现目标的故事。
We've reached Act Two, Cry Hard with a Vengeance.
我们已经到了第二幕，《复仇之怒》。
This next story is about a man who might be in a championship window.
下一个故事是关于一个可能处于冠军窗口的人。
It's actually a guy you've probably heard on the podcast version of this show more than any other person besides Ira.
事实上，除了艾拉之外，你可能在这个节目的播客版本中听到最多的一个人。
A quick warning-- there are curse words that are unbeeped in today's episode of the show.
快速警告——今天的节目中有些脏话没有发出提示音。
That is my coworker, Seth Lind, the guy who voices the warnings before our sweary episodes.
那是我的同事塞思·林德（Seth Lind），他在我们的脏话剧集之前发出了警告。
We actually sit next to each other in the office.
事实上，我们在办公室里坐在一起。
He's sensitive and kind, has this great sense of humor.
他敏感而善良，很有幽默感。
He is the only one at work, I think, who laughs at all of my dad jokes.
我想，他是工作中唯一一个对我爸爸讲的所有笑话都发笑的人。
Did I mention that he's kind?
我有没有提到他很友善？
Anyways, there's this one other thing about Seth, which is that he never cries.
不管怎样，塞斯还有一件事，那就是他从不哭。
I mean, I have cried.
我是说，我哭了。
Emmanuel Dzotsi [LAUGHS]
伊曼纽尔·佐西[笑]
I have cried.
我哭了。
But in thinking about the time-- I can remember two times I cried.
但回想那段时间——我记得有两次我哭了。
I remember crying after a breakup in 2008.
我记得2008年分手后我哭了。
And I remember crying when watching a documentary when a child reached his artistic potential.
我记得在观看一部纪录片时，当一个孩子发挥了他的艺术潜力时，我哭了。
And that moment overcame me.
那一刻征服了我。
And so when I say I don't cry, it means I have cried, but I don't really know I could anymore.
所以当我说我不哭时，这意味着我已经哭了，但我真的不知道我还能哭。
Seth used to cry when he was a child, but the breakup and the documentary are the only times he remembers crying as an adult.
赛斯小时候经常哭，但分手和拍纪录片是他成年后唯一记得哭的时候。
And both of those were extremes.
这两种情况都是极端的。
The breakup was very, very sad.
分手是非常非常悲伤的。
And the documentary, which was about the children of sex workers in Calcutta, that was very, very triumphant.
这部关于加尔各答性工作者的孩子的纪录片非常非常成功。
Besides that, though, I think it's actually easier to talk about the stuff that Seth hasn't cried at.
但除此之外，我认为谈论赛斯没有哭过的事情实际上更容易。
He didn't cry when his grandparents died, didn't cry when he saw his wife in her dress on their wedding day.
当他的祖父母去世时，他没有哭，当他在结婚那天看到妻子穿着礼服时，他没有哭。
He doesn't remember if he cried when his first kid was born, but definitely didn't cry when the second was.
他不记得第一个孩子出生时他是否哭过，但第二个孩子出生时他绝对没有哭。
Seth's wife thinks it's odd and a little bit sad that he doesn't cry.
塞斯的妻子认为他不哭很奇怪，而且有点悲伤。
And Seth, he regards it as a personal failing, wishes he could be more like other people.
而塞斯，他认为这是个人的失败，希望他能更像其他人。
My father-in-law will cry at most goodbyes in a really sweet way.
我的岳父在大多数告别时都会以一种非常甜蜜的方式哭泣。
Oh, just like, anytime you-- Seth Lind Yeah, like we're gathering.
哦，就像，任何时候你—— Seth Lind 是的，就像我们聚会一样。
And it's just like, OK, I'll see you in a month or whatever.
就像，好吧，一个月后见或者什么的。
He's very wistful and sad to part because of a love of being together.
由于热爱在一起，他非常渴望和悲伤地分开。
And I can't fathom that, the idea of being, like, overcome in that moment.
我无法理解那种在那一刻被克服的想法。
I'm envious.
我很羡慕。
It seems wonderful and so foreign to me.
这对我来说似乎很美妙又很陌生。
Seth knows that thing you're thinking, Wow, a man unable or unwilling to cry-- how newsworthy.
赛斯知道你在想什么，哇，一个不能或不愿意哭泣的人——多么有新闻价值。
But he has a theory about why he is the way he is.
但他有一个关于他为什么会变成现在这个样子的理论。
When he was 15, Seth had to get a pacemaker to regulate his heartbeat.
15 岁时，赛斯不得不安装起搏器来调节他的心跳。
And this pacemaker, it was this model that increased his heart rate based on body motion or exercise.
还有这个起搏器，就是这个模型，根据身体运动或者锻炼来提高他的心率。
But it didn't speed up his heart rate based on his emotion.
但并没有因为情绪而让他的心跳加快。
So anytime Seth was angry or sad or anxious, his heart rate stayed exactly the same.
因此，每当赛斯生气、悲伤或焦虑时，他的心率都会保持不变。
And so my theory is that that is related to not crying, that the physiological phenomenon of being overcome by emotion is limited by this machine.
所以我的理论是，这与不哭有关，被情绪克服的生理现象受到这台机器的限制。
It-- [LAUGHS] It sounds like what you're saying is you don't have a heart.
它--[笑]听起来你所说的是你没有心。
[LAUGHTER] Like, metaphorically-- like that's why you're not crying.
[笑声] 就像，打个比方——就像这就是你不哭的原因。
[LAUGHTER] Seth Lind Yes.
[笑声] 塞思·林德 是的。
I agree with you, Emmanuel.
我同意你的看法，伊曼纽尔。
I mean, I do have a heart.
我的意思是，我确实有一颗心。
It's just electrically regulated.
它只是由电力调节的。
This is, for the record, not scientifically correct, which Seth knows.
郑重声明，这在科学上并不正确，赛斯知道这一点。
Pacemakers don't affect your ability to cry.
起搏器不会影响您哭泣的能力。
But a couple months ago, Seth found out he needed to have open-heart surgery-- like, urgently.
但几个月前，塞斯发现他需要紧急进行心脏直视手术。
The doctors told him that there was a problem with the largest blood vessel in his heart, his aorta, that if they didn't replace part of it, that it could burst and kill him.
医生告诉他，他心脏中最大的血管——主动脉有问题，如果不更换部分血管，它可能会破裂并杀死他。
Seth didn't cry about it.
赛斯没有为此哭泣。
Instead, he told all of us at work about it in the most casual way possible.
相反，他以最随意的方式向我们所有工作人员讲述了这件事。
He messaged us all on Slack.
他在 Slack 上给我们所有人发了消息。
And he said, quote, "hey, if things go pear shaped, it's been fun." But after the surgery, he woke up in the hospital on heavy painkillers.
他说，“嘿，如果事情进展顺利，那就很有趣了。”但手术后，他在医院里醒来，需要服用大量止痛药。
And it wasn't until about five days later that it all hit him.
直到大约五天后，这一切才让他震惊。
I was writing a note on my phone, a Mother's Day note to my wife, Gabrielle.
我正在手机上写一张便条，给我妻子加布里埃尔的母亲节便条。
And I was typing in the Notes app alone in my hospital room.
我独自在病房里用 Notes 应用程序打字。
I was writing about my appreciation for her as a mother to our kids and as a partner.
我写的是我对她作为我们孩子的母亲和伴侣的感激之情。
And I was absolutely overcome and started weeping.
我彻底崩溃了，开始哭泣。
Oh, man.
哦，伙计。
Seth Lind Yeah, I started crying.
赛斯·林德 是的，我开始哭了。
And I also had the feeling of, oh my gosh, I'm crying.
我也有一种感觉，天哪，我哭了。
I'm alone.
我还是孤单一人。
No one's here to see this.
没有人在这里看到这个。
Gabrielle isn't here to witness this.
加布里埃尔不在这里见证这一切。
So I pulled out my phone to try to capture this moment, like seeing a Bigfoot in the woods, trying to get it on film.
于是我拿出手机试图捕捉这一刻，就像在树林里看到大脚怪一样，试图把它拍成电影。
It's so funny to me that you were like, no one's here to see this.
对我来说这太有趣了，你说，没有人在这里看到这个。
That was the thought that popped into your brain.
这就是你脑子里突然闪现的想法。
Yeah.
是的。
I was like, of course I'm alone.
我当时想，当然我是一个人。
No one's going to believe me.
没有人会相信我。
I have seen this video Seth took of himself crying.
我看过赛斯拍摄的自己哭泣的视频。
And I gotta say, this is no single thug tier kind of joint.
我得说，这不是单一暴徒级别的联合。
Like, Seth was ugly crying.
就像，赛斯哭得很难看。
I'm not going to play it, though.
不过我不会玩它。
Because it-- I don't know-- just feels a little too vulnerable to share.
因为它——我不知道——只是感觉有点太脆弱而无法分享。
Seth did share the video with his wife, though.
不过，塞斯确实与他的妻子分享了这段视频。
She was moved by it, glad for him.
她为他感动，为他高兴。
And ever since then, Seth's been thinking about that cry, how those tears just rolled on out, how he had no control and was just overcome.
从那时起，塞斯就一直在思考那场哭泣，那些眼泪是如何滚落的，他是如何无法控制并被克服的。
But here's the thing.
但事情是这样的。
Seth hasn't cried since.
从那以后，赛斯就再没有哭过。
And recently, he's been wondering, was that it?
最近，他一直在想，是这样吗？
Was this just another freak crying accident that will likely never happen again?
这是否只是另一起可能永远不会再发生的怪异哭泣事故？
My hope is that this wasn't just a window, but I don't know.
我希望这不仅仅是一扇窗户，但我不知道。
I think it was probably the extremity of the surgery, just the pure gratitude for still being alive.
我想这可能是手术的极限，只是对还活着的纯粹感激。
So I hope I will cry more, but I do think it's possible that this was just such an extreme situation that that was a little bit--
所以我希望我能哭得更多，但我确实认为这可能只是一种极端的情况，有点——
Yeah, that was the moment.
是的，就是那个时刻。
Emmanuel Dzotsi Hmm.
伊曼纽尔·佐西 嗯。
OK.
好的。
Well, so you've come to the right place.
好吧，那么您来对地方了。
And I say that because I want to find out if this was a window for you, if this was a one-time thing.
我这么说是因为我想知道这是否是你的一个窗口，是否是一次性的事情。
And to help us do that, your coworkers and I created a set of triggers for you.
为了帮助我们做到这一点，我和你的同事为你创建了一组触发器。
[LAUGHS] Are you serious?
[笑]你是认真的吗？
Emmanuel Dzotsi I'm dead serious.
Emmanuel Dzotsi 我是认真的。
I spent hours yesterday compiling a list of things that make us cry.
昨天我花了几个小时整理了一份让我们哭泣的事情清单。
So we're going to start with our first one.
所以我们将从第一个开始。
Yeah.
是的。
We're doing this now?
我们现在就做这个？
Emmanuel Dzotsi Oh.
伊曼纽尔·佐西哦。
Yeah, we're doing this now.
是的，我们现在正在做这个。
Oh, wow.
哦，哇。
OK.
好的。
Emmanuel Dzotsi Is that OK?
Emmanuel Dzotsi 可以吗？
Yeah, yeah.
是啊是啊。
I just-- I feel so-- it feels so unlikely that I'm going to cry.
我只是——我这么感觉——感觉我不太可能哭。
And I feel bad for my-- in the future.
我为我的未来感到难过。
Don't feel bad.
别难过。
Seth Lind OK.
塞思·林德 好的。
All right.
好的。
Yes.
是的。
So Level 1-- so, obviously, it's June.
所以一级——所以，显然，现在是六月。
And this time of year, we have a lot of graduations from college, from high school.
每年的这个时候，我们有很多大学、高中毕业生。
And there is literally this trend online of people posting graduations.
网上确实存在这种人们发布毕业典礼的趋势。
And I just want to show you this.
我只想向您展示这一点。
You want to describe what you're seeing?
你想描述一下你所看到的吗？
I'm seeing a graduate.
我正在见一个毕业生。
It's like a high school graduate.
这就像一个高中毕业生。
Oh, he's putting his own gown onto his dad.
哦，他正在给他爸爸穿上自己的礼服。
[LAUGHTER] Emmanuel Dzotsi What do you mean?
[笑声] Emmanuel Dzotsi 你什么意思？
Is the dad graduating?
爸爸毕业了吗？
Is he thanking him?
他这是在感谢他吗？
No, the kid is graduating, but he's saying I did it because of you.
不，这孩子快毕业了，但他说我是因为你才这么做的。
You really deserve this.
你真的值得这个。
Why is this making you laugh?
为什么这会让你发笑？
No, I just-- I think I-- Emmanuel Dzotsi I explained to Seth, look, most of these folks are immigrants.
不，我只是 - 我想我 - Emmanuel Dzotsi 我向赛斯解释说，看，这些人中的大多数都是移民。
And what they're doing is, they're saying to their parents, listen, this accomplishment I just made, it's really yours.
他们正在做的是，他们对父母说，听着，我刚刚取得的成就，它真的是你的。
That's so sweet.
太甜了。
I don't feel anywhere close to crying.
我不觉得有任何接近哭泣的感觉。
[LAUGHTER] I feel like-- yeah, I'm appreciating their emotion.
[笑声] 我觉得——是的，我很欣赏他们的情感。
It is OK that you didn't cry, Seth.
塞斯，你没有哭就够了。
You know why?
你知道为什么吗？
Because there's more?
因为还有更多？
Emmanuel Dzotsi Because there's more.
Emmanuel Dzotsi 因为还有更多。
Just to say, I had a bunch of videos cued and ready to go.
只是说，我已经准备好了一堆视频并准备好。
I had Susan Boyle singing "I Dreamed a Dream" on Britain's Got Talent, which my coworkers want me to make clear makes me and only me cry.
我让苏珊·博伊尔在《英国达人秀》上演唱了《我曾有一个梦想》，我的同事们希望我明确表示，这首歌让我哭了，也只有我一个人哭了。
I had the ending to the randomly extremely violent children's movie about rabbits, Watership Down, the opening scene from the animated movie Up.
我有一部关于兔子的随机极其暴力的儿童电影《Watership Down》的结局，这是动画电影《Up》的开场场景。
But first, there was this next one.
但首先，还有下一个。
It was an old sports video.
这是一个旧的体育视频。
I want you to picture it.
我想让你想象一下。
It's the 1992 Olympics, Barcelona.
这是 1992 年巴塞罗那奥运会。
It's a 400-meter race.
这是一场400米的比赛。
And this young British sprinter, Derek Redmond, is in the race of his life-- big deal.
这位年轻的英国短跑运动员德里克·雷德蒙德 (Derek Redmond) 正在参加他一生中最重要的比赛——一件大事。
And the eyes of the world are watching him.
全世界的目光都在注视着他。
So the race starts.
于是比赛开始了。
OK, that's him right there, streaming away.
好吧，他就在那里，正在流走。
It's looking pretty good.
看起来不错。
OK, white and purple.
好吧，白色和紫色。
Emmanuel Dzotsi Yep, yep, yep.
Emmanuel Dzotsi 是的，是的，是的。
He's doing-- OK.
他正在做——好吧。
Emmanuel Dzotsi Really great.
Emmanuel Dzotsi 真的很棒。
It's 400, so he has to run all the way around.
400了，他得一路跑。
And then right here, his hamstring goes.
然后就在这里，他的腿筋受伤了。
Oh, yeah.
哦，是的。
Announcer Looks like a hamstring.
播音员看起来像腿筋。
Oh, jeez.
哦，天哪。
Oh, he's down.
哦，他倒下了。
Emmanuel Dzotsi So only a 40-second race-- all the other runners finish without him.
Emmanuel Dzotsi 所以只有 40 秒的比赛——所有其他跑步者都在没有他的情况下完成了比赛。
And then he decides, oh, OK.
然后他决定，哦，好吧。
I'm going to--
我要——
Oh, he's-- Emmanuel Dzotsi --keep on trying to finish.
哦，他——Emmanuel Dzotsi——继续努力完成任务。
Oh, he's basically hopping on one foot, almost.
哦，他基本上是用一只脚跳起来，几乎。
Yeah.
是的。
He has no hamstring.
他没有腿筋。
Like, it's gone.
就像，它消失了。
[CROWD CHEERING] Emmanuel Dzotsi All of a sudden, this guy comes up.
[人群欢呼] Emmanuel Dzotsi 突然，这个家伙出现了。
That's Derek's father.
那是德里克的父亲。
He's run onto the track to make sure his son finishes.
他跑到跑道上以确保他的儿子完成比赛。
He's come down to help him.
他下来帮助他。
Emmanuel Dzotsi And it's funny because the security people, they don't know that it's his father.
Emmanuel Dzotsi：这很有趣，因为保安人员不知道那是他的父亲。
So they have come onto the track.
于是他们就走上了正轨。
And he's having to wave them away to keep them away from him.
他必须挥手让他们走开，才能让他们远离他。
And he's like, I'm going to finish with my son.
他说，我要和我儿子一起结束了。
And this man is just-- he's collapsed in his father's arms, and they're finishing together.
这个男人只是——他倒在他父亲的怀里，他们一起完成任务。
Oh my gosh.
天哪。
[SNIFFLING] [SIGHS] That was just--
[抽吸][叹气]那只是——
Oh, Seth.
哦，赛斯。
I didn't think that was actually going to work.
我认为这实际上不会起作用。
I would have bet any amount of money it wouldn't.
我敢打赌，无论花多少钱，都不会。
Wow.
哇。
My mind is blown.
我的心被震撼了。
My heart, I suppose, more specifically, is blown.
更具体地说，我想我的心已经被震撼了。
There's part of me, I have to say, even as I am feeling uncomfortable and sad and kind of crying myself-- there's part of me, I got to say, that is just like, did you actually just cry for real?
我不得不说，我的一部分，即使我自己感到不舒服、悲伤，甚至有点哭泣——我不得不说，我的一部分，就像，你真的只是真的哭了吗？
Yeah, I mean I think I-- Yeah, I want to be really honest, because I think I was trying to feel open to it.
是的，我的意思是我想我——是的，我想说实话，因为我想我试图对此保持开放的态度。
And so I think I could have not.
所以我想我本来可以不这样做。
I could have stopped it.
我本来可以阻止它的。
And maybe that's something I would actually do without knowing it.
也许这就是我在不知情的情况下实际上会做的事情。
But then I actually felt it, and I still sort of am.
但后来我真的感觉到了，而且我仍然感觉到了。
Like, it's-- I don't know what's happening.
就像，我不知道发生了什么。
It just feels like feeling.
只是感觉就像是感觉。
I'm so glad for you.
我真为你高兴。
What about that video do you think made you cry?
你觉得那个视频哪一点让你哭了？
I think it was seeing-- he's in so much physical pain.
我认为是看到——他的身体承受着如此多的痛苦。
And he's in so much, I imagine, emotional pain at losing this shot.
我想，他因失去这次投篮而感到非常痛苦。
But I feel like, through that, you can see he's also crying from joy that his father is there.
但我觉得，通过这一点，你可以看到他也因为他父亲在那里而高兴地哭了。
And then shift my vision to the dad, who is waving away these security people and is being relatively stoic, but is also clearly overcome in his own way.
然后我把目光转向父亲，他正在挥手走开这些保安人员，表现得相对坚忍，但显然也以自己的方式被克服了。
I think it just, it felt both kind of tragic and so victorious at the same moment.
我认为这就是，在同一时刻既感到悲惨又如此胜利。
And it got to me.
这对我产生了影响。
And I can't-- yeah, I still can't quite believe it.
我不能——是的，我仍然不敢相信。
As I sat there, listening to this grown man who almost never cried in his adult life struggle to find the words, his eyes still slightly watering, I didn't know what to say.
我坐在那儿，听着这个成年后几乎不哭过的成年男子挣扎着寻找言语，他的眼睛还微微流着泪，我不知道该说什么。
I just started sniffling, which is normally what happens when someone cries in front of me.
我刚刚开始抽鼻子，这通常是有人在我面前哭泣时发生的情况。
I am, for the record, a crier.
根据记录，我是一个爱哭的人。
But I'm really just a crier because I often find it easier than saying the right thing.
但我真的只是一个爱哭的人，因为我常常发现哭比说正确的话更容易。
For me, crying is like a shortcut, the best way to let the people in my life know that I love them and that I care.
对我来说，哭泣就像一条捷径，是让我生命中的人知道我爱他们、我在乎他们的最好方式。
And it struck me that, for years, Seth hasn't had that.
让我惊讶的是，多年来，赛斯都没有这样的经历。
And now, well, he does.
现在，好吧，他做到了。
Act Three, Benched Expectations.
第三幕，预期预期。
So like I said earlier, championship windows are these periods when the universe has conspired to make it so that, for once, everything might go right.
所以就像我之前说的，冠军窗口期是宇宙合力创造的时期，这样，这一次，一切都会顺利进行。
And this last story is about a very particular version of that.
最后一个故事是关于这个故事的一个非常特殊的版本。
It's about two baseball teams who, I should say, were not playing for a championship.
我应该说，这是关于两支棒球队的故事，他们并不是为了冠军而战。
They were doing kind of the opposite, actually.
事实上，他们正在做相反的事情。
They were playing to finally not lose.
他们打球是为了最终不输。
If you combine the records of these two teams, they'd lost 141 straight games between them-- 141.
如果你把这两支球队的战绩加起来，他们已经连续输掉了 141 场比赛——141 场。
But now, the stars had aligned.
但现在，星星已经对齐了。
Because after all those losses, after all that heartbreak, there was this little glint of hope.
因为在经历了所有这些损失、所有的心碎之后，还有一线希望。
Because next on their schedule, those two teams were going to play each other, which meant, for one of them, the losing streak would finally have to end.
因为接下来的赛程中，两队就要交手，这意味着其中一支球队的连败终于要结束了。
There was no way around it.
没有办法解决这个问题。
No matter how bad those teams were, one of them was going to win.
无论这些球队有多糟糕，其中一支都会获胜。
My colleague, David Kestenbaum, talked to some of the players before this historic matchup.
我的同事大卫·凯斯滕鲍姆在这场历史性的比赛之前与一些球员进行了交谈。
And then he went to the game to see how it all turned out.
然后他去看了比赛，看看结果如何。
Here's David.
这是大卫。
I wanted to know what it was like to go so long without winning a single game.
我想知道这么长时间没有赢得一场比赛是什么感觉。
To not win and keep coming out, that takes a particular kind of person.
要想不获胜并继续出柜，就需要特定类型的人。
Both teams are in New York City.
两支球队都在纽约市。
I reached out, first to Yeshiva University.
我首先联系了叶史瓦大学。
Their team, the Yeshiva Macabees-- Yeshiva's losing streak was at 99 games.
他们的球队，Yeshiva Macabees——Yeshiva的连败已经达到了99场。
And I know everyone knows how to add 1, but for them to lose would mean 100 straight losses.
我知道每个人都知道如何加1，但对他们来说输了就意味着连输100。
Yeshiva did not want to talk to us for this story, which I will just say, I get.
Yeshiva 不想和我们谈论这个故事，我只想说，我明白。
But the other team said OK, the Lehman Lightning, who had 42 straight losses.
但另一支球队雷曼闪电队表示还好，他们已经遭遇了42连败。
Lehman College is in the Bronx.
雷曼学院位于布朗克斯。
It's part of the City University system.
它是城市大学系统的一部分。
So I went to visit.
于是我就去参观了。
And I want you to meet one player, Justin Chamarro, the starting pitcher.
我想让你认识一位球员，贾斯汀·查马罗，先发投手。
Justin has a kind of shy smile.
贾斯汀有一种害羞的微笑。
When we started texting, he wrote, "Heyyy DAVID!!" Three Ys, David in caps, two exclamation points.
当我们开始发短信时，他写道：“嘿大卫！！”三个“Y”，大卫大写，两个感叹号。
His team hasn't won in two years.
他的球队已经两年没有赢过球了。
And I know all the stuff people say about how losing builds character and bonds you together with your team and teaches you life lessons-- I mean, sure.
我知道人们所说的所有关于失败如何塑造性格、如何将你与团队联系在一起、如何教会你人生教训的说法——我的意思是，当然。
But also-- and I appreciated Justin's candor here-- it is not fun.
但同时——我很欣赏贾斯汀的坦率——这并不有趣。
I've never been in this long of a losing streak a day in my life.
我一生中从来没有经历过这么长时间的连败。
It's actually depressing.
其实很郁闷。
No, let me stop.
不，让我停下来。
But it's hard.
但这很难。
It's difficult.
它很难。
I say it challenges me mentally, physically.
我说它对我的精神和身体都提出了挑战。
It's draining.
它正在流失。
It's really draining.
真的很累。
Yeah.
是的。
Say more.
多说一点。
Like, I don't know, how'd you feel after the last loss?
就像，我不知道，上次失利后你感觉如何？
The last loss weighed on me heavy because Mount St. Mary, they're a good school, but we also competed to their level.
最后的失利给我带来了沉重的压力，因为圣玛丽山，他们是一所好学校，但我们也达到了他们的水平。
Playing games like that, where you're constantly in a game and then you just lose it, that's exhausting.
玩这样的游戏，你一直在游戏中，然后就输了，这让人筋疲力尽。
That's what sucks out of everything, honestly.
老实说，这就是一切的糟糕之处。
It's not just him going through this.
经历这一切的不只是他一个人。
It's a whole team that every game says to themselves "this time" and then has it not happen.
这是一支整支球队，每场比赛都对自己说“这一次”，然后却没有发生。
There's a lot of frustration.
有很多挫败感。
You have people upset at themselves, the coach.
人们对自己、对教练感到不安。
There's a lot of stuff like that.
类似的事情还有很多。
But in the locker rooms also, it's very quiet.
但更衣室里也很安静。
It's an eerie atmosphere in the locker room, honestly.
老实说，更衣室里的气氛很诡异。
But we pick each other up.
但我们互相扶持。
That's what we do.
这就是我们所做的。
A bunch of people on campus must know about the streak, right?
校园里的很多人一定都知道这件事，对吧？
Yeah, I'm pretty sure everybody knows about the streak.
是的，我很确定每个人都知道连胜。
[LAUGHS] I'm pretty sure.
[笑]我很确定。
I mean, it's no secret.
我的意思是，这不是什么秘密。
There's multiple videos out there and media outlets that highlight it.
有多个视频和媒体都强调了这一点。
He's talking about the upcoming game.
他正在谈论即将到来的比赛。
The internet liked the idea that his team was going to play this other losing team.
互联网喜欢他的球队将与另一支失败的球队比赛的想法。
One post called it the worst college baseball game of all time.
一篇帖子称这是有史以来最糟糕的大学棒球比赛。
I asked Justin why, when the other team did not want to talk, he was willing to.
我问贾斯汀，为什么当其他团队不想说话时，他却愿意说话。
He said he wanted the world to know who they really were.
他说他希望全世界都知道他们到底是谁。
So here's a little bit about Justin.
这是关于贾斯汀的一些信息。
In his bedroom, he has the following-- a poster of Muhammad Ali, an Xbox, shoes, a bag filled with baseballs from the best games he's played in, one from when he was 11-- oh, and textbooks.
在他的卧室里，他有以下物品——一张穆罕默德·阿里的海报、一台 Xbox、鞋子、一个装满他参加过的最好比赛的棒球的袋子，其中一个是他 11 岁时的——哦，还有教科书。
He's a bio major, planning to be a physician's assistant after all this is over, maybe work in a clinic.
他是生物专业的，计划在这一切结束后成为一名医生助理，也许在诊所工作。
He said, that's my second love.
他说，那是我的第二个爱情。
Oh, I love baseball with a passion, yes.
哦，我热爱棒球，是的。
Since you were little?
从小就这样？
Justin Chamarro Oh, since I could remember, yeah.
贾斯汀·查马罗 哦，从我记事起，是的。
What do you like about it?
你喜欢它什么？
Justin Chamarro Well, I like how competitive it gets.
贾斯汀·查马罗（Justin Chamarro）嗯，我喜欢它的竞争程度。
I like the fact that it's a game based off of failure and that when you actually succeed, it feels that much better.
我喜欢这样一个事实：这是一款基于失败的游戏，当你真正成功时，感觉会好得多。
Yeah.
是的。
They say, if you get up at bat and you fail seven times out of 10, you're doing great, right?
他们说，如果你在击球时起床，十次失败七次，那么你就做得很好，对吧？
Yes.
是的。
David Kestenbaum That's a tough proposition, you know?
David Kestenbaum：这是一个艰难的提议，你知道吗？
Yeah, it is.
是的，确实如此。
It is.
这是。
I mean, essentially, you're failing more than you succeed.
我的意思是，本质上，你失败的次数多于成功的次数。
But you got to look at it on the bright side.
但你必须看到它好的一面。
You're also playing a sport that involves a tiny little ball with a round bat, and you have nine fielders.
您还从事一项涉及带有圆形球棒的小球的运动，并且您有九名外野手。
So yeah.
所以是的。
Funny to think about it that way.
这样想很有趣。
Justin says he does sometimes to remind himself it's just a game-- a very hard one.
贾斯汀说，他有时会提醒自己这只是一场游戏——一场非常艰难的比赛。
So what do you do to turn things around?
那么你该怎么做才能扭转局面呢？
This is a Division III commuter school.
这是一所三级通勤学校。
Most of these students live with their families.
这些学生大多数与家人住在一起。
A lot of the players have jobs in addition to school.
很多球员除了上学之外还有工作。
Justin wanted me to point that out.
贾斯汀想让我指出这一点。
He also wanted me to point out that there is not a big budget for baseball here-- no scholarships for players, no batting cages or pitching machines to practice hitting with.
他还想让我指出，这里的棒球预算并不多——没有为球员提供的奖学金，没有击球笼或投球机来练习击球。
But they practice almost every day, sometimes for hours.
但他们几乎每天都练习，有时练习几个小时。
The truth is, it's probably their last chance to play like this, with a coach and a real team.
事实是，这可能是他们最后一次像这样与教练和真正的球队一起比赛的机会。
This is a moment in their lives that will end.
这是他们生命中即将结束的时刻。
No one is going on to the pros.
没有人会继续成为职业选手。
And for Justin, this is his senior year, almost the end of the season.
对于贾斯汀来说，这是他的大四，赛季也快结束了。
And it would feel different to go out with one win.
以一场胜利出局的感觉会有所不同。
So to try to turn things around, their coach, Coach Delgado, gives them grades after every game.
因此，为了扭转局面，他们的教练德尔加多教练在每场比赛后都会给他们打分。
He has them write in journals about what they did well and what they need to work on.
他让他们在日记中写下他们做得好的地方以及需要改进的地方。
And they are not a superstitious bunch, but it's kind of hard not to be a little, after a streak like they're on.
他们并不是一群迷信的人，但在经历了他们这样的连续性之后，很难不迷信。
Your brain is looking for some reason.
你的大脑正在寻找某种原因。
Justin's coach eats the same breakfast before every game.
贾斯汀的教练在每场比赛前都吃同样的早餐。
The players do not step on the lines before a game.
比赛前，球员不得踩线。
That's a classic.
那是经典。
They also do not allow crossed bats in the dugout.
他们也不允许交叉的蝙蝠进入休息室。
I know we've tried playing without walk-up songs.
我知道我们已经尝试过在没有伴奏歌曲的情况下进行演奏。
Walk-up songs-- you know, when the hitter's walking out to the plate.
步行歌曲——你知道，当击球手走向本垒时。
They used to play a clip of a song through the loudspeakers to get them psyched up.
他们常常通过扬声器播放歌曲片段来让他们兴奋起来。
Got rid of those.
摆脱了那些。
Yeah, so it's just silent at home games.
是的，所以主场比赛很安静。
I was kind of mad because I liked my walk-out song.
我有点生气，因为我喜欢我的退场歌曲。
What's your song?
你的歌是什么？
Justin Chamarro One is "I'm Good" by David Guetta.
贾斯汀·查马罗一号是大卫·库塔的《我很好》。
And it's, I'm good and I'm feeling all right.
是的，我很好，我感觉很好。
I'mma have the best time of my life-- yeah, that's that song.
我将度过一生中最美好的时光——是的，就是那首歌。
That song, you won't be hearing.
那首歌，你不会听到的。
Other songs you won't be hearing-- "Lemonade" by Gucci Mane, "Nokia" by Drake.
其他你不会听到的歌曲——Gucci Mane 的“Lemonade”、Drake 的“Nokia”。
Do you think about how it's going to feel when you eventually win?
你想过当你最终获胜时感觉如何吗？
Oh, I think about it every single day.
哦，我每天都在想这个问题。
One streak has to end.
一连胜必须结束。
And I'm very confident that ours will end tomorrow.
我非常有信心我们的明天就会结束。
Game time.
比赛时间。
It's a Tuesday, 2:00 in the afternoon at a turf field in New Jersey, far from both schools.
这是一个星期二，下午 2:00，地点是新泽西州的一个草坪，远离两所学校。
And yet, so many people-- like, 300-- some baseball nerds, drawn, I think, by the strangeness of the situation.
然而，很多人——比如 300 人——一些棒球迷，我认为是被这种奇怪的情况所吸引。
It kind of went viral online, these two teams that had together lost 141 games about to play each other.
这两支已经输掉 141 场比赛的球队在网上疯传。
One of them had to finally win.
他们中的一个人最终必须获胜。
I had no idea how this was going to go.
我不知道事情会如何发展。
No one seemed to.
似乎没有人这样做。
YU, YU, YU.
于，于，于。
David Kestenbaum Mostly, the people who show up are fans.
大卫·凯斯坦鲍姆 出现的人大多是粉丝。
Some have never been to a game before.
有些人以前从未参加过比赛。
Lots of Yeshiva supporters, hoping the 99 losses would not turn into 100.
许多Yeshiva的支持者希望99的损失不会变成100。
We're going to make them up on the fly.
我们要即时制作它们。
YU.
于。
YU.
于。
YU.
于。
YU.
于。
YU.
于。
And plenty of Lehman fans-- here's one.
还有很多雷曼兄弟的粉丝——这是其中之一。
Franchesca Angeles came to support one player in particular, the shortstop.
弗兰切斯卡·安吉利斯 (Franchesca Angeles) 前来支持一位特别的球员，即游击手。
He's her boyfriend.
他是她的男朋友。
It's funny.
很有趣。
He sleeps, he eats, and he talks baseball.
他睡觉、吃饭、谈论棒球。
[LAUGHS] Like, he dreams baseball.
[笑]就像，他梦想棒球。
I'm telling you, it's funny.
我告诉你，这很有趣。
Sometimes he will flinch.
有时他会退缩。
He's sleeping.
他正在睡觉。
And I'm like, what's happening?
我想，发生了什么事？
He's like, I'm getting a grounder ball.
他说，我得到了一个滚滚球。
[LAUGHS] So yeah, he's in the game, always.
[笑]所以是的，他总是在比赛中。
I settled in on the Lehman side, right up against the fence near the dugout.
我坐在雷曼兄弟这边，靠着防空洞附近的栅栏。
The game starts and immediately does not go well for Lehman.
比赛一开始，雷曼兄弟的表现就不太顺利。
Yeshiva, the other team, is at bat.
另一支队伍 Yeshiva 正在击球。
One of their players hits the ball deep.
他们的一名球员将球击得很深。
But the fielder is there.
但外野手就在那里。
It's going to be a flyout.
这将是一个飞出。
David Kestenbaum Should be an out.
大卫·凯斯滕鲍姆应该出局。
Oh, there it is.
哦，就在那里。
Man Get out of here.
男人离开这里。
He missed it.
他错过了。
He missed it.
他错过了。
Erik Then That right there should have been caught.
埃里克 那么就应该被抓住。
Let's see if he makes it.
让我们看看他能否成功。
Erik Then [GROANS]
埃里克然后[呻吟]
The guy narrating here is a former Lehman player named Erik Then who'd come to watch the game with his girlfriend.
这里的解说员是前雷曼兄弟埃里克·森 (Erik then)，他和女友一起来看比赛。
He knows Justin and all the players.
他认识贾斯汀和所有球员。
Right after that, another mistake-- Yeshiva scores.
紧接着，又一个错误——Yeshiva得分。
It kept going.
它继续下去。
[CROWD SHOUTING] And that's an error right there.
[人群大喊] 这就是一个错误。
Do they look nervous to you?
你觉得他们紧张吗？
Erik Then Oh, yeah, definitely.
埃里克 那么哦，是的，当然。
[LAUGHS] And another one scores.
[笑]又一个得分了。
Yeshiva scores again.
叶史瓦再次进球。
So it's 2-0.
所以比分是2-0。
And if you're thinking, oh, I know how this will go.
如果你在想，哦，我知道事情会如何发展。
Justin's team will bounce back.
贾斯汀的团队将会东山再起。
Can I remind you this is real life, a tiny ball, a round bat, and all that?
我可以提醒你这是现实生活，一个小球，一个圆棒，等等？
And that is Justin out there pitching, a real human being.
这就是贾斯汀在场上的投球，一个真正的人。
The Lehman players do score one in the next inning.
雷曼球员在下一局确实得分。
Both teams actually play pretty solidly once they settle in.
事实上，两支球队一旦安顿下来，就会打得相当稳定。
There's some truly incredible moments.
有一些真正令人难以置信的时刻。
That was an amazing play right there.
那真是一场精彩的比赛。
That's like ESPN top 10 right there.
这就像 ESPN 前 10 名一样。
But by the end, going into the last inning, Lehman is still behind.
但到最后，进入最后一局，雷曼仍然落后。
The score is 6-4.
比分是6-4。
They have this one last at bat, and they need to score two runs to tie it up.
他们最后一击，需要得分两分才能扳平比分。
They do get a runner on first.
他们确实先有一个跑步者。
Then this guy, Eli, steps up to bat.
然后这个家伙，伊莱，站起来击球。
Let's go, Eli.
我们走吧，伊莱。
Nueva York.
新约克。
Yo, Eli, tie this shit.
哟，伊莱，把这狗屎绑起来。
Let's go.
我们走吧。
One swing, baby.
一次秋千，宝贝。
Right field.
右场。
Yeah!
是的！
[CROWD CHEERING] [SPEAKING SPANISH] New Jersey.
[人群欢呼] [说西班牙语] 新泽西州。
The pitcher walked him.
投手带他走。
Erik Then It's a huge moment right now, right?
埃里克：那么现在是一个重要的时刻，对吧？
So somehow, some way, right now, he's got to make something happen with that bat.
所以，无论如何，某种方式，现在，他必须用那只球棒做点什么。
[SPEAKING SPANISH] David Kestenbaum The pitch--
[西班牙语] David Kestenbaum 球场——
Yeah, let's go!
是的，我们走吧！
Let's go!
我们走吧！
So right there, hit by a pitch.
就在那里，被球击中。
Now it's at bases loaded right now.
现在它已经加载完毕。
This pitcher's obviously flustered up right now.
这位投手现在显然很慌张。
The runner on third races to home plate and scores.
第三场比赛的跑者跑到本垒并得分。
And then another runner scores.
然后另一位跑步者得分。
Let's go.
我们走吧。
Now they just tied the game up right now.
现在他们刚刚打平了比赛。
They need one more run to win.
他们还需要再跑一分才能获胜。
The shortstop, number 18, who, remember, fields grounders in his sleep, gives a look to his girlfriend, steps up to the plate.
18号游击手，记得，他在睡梦中打滚地球，看了一眼他的女朋友，然后走上本垒。
Do you know this guy?
你认识这个人吗？
Franchesca Angeles Yes, I definitely do.
Franchesca Angeles 是的，我绝对愿意。
Let's go, one eight!
走吧，一八！
Did you say let's go, honey?
你说我们走吧，亲爱的？
Franchesca Angeles No, let's go, one eight.
Franchesca Angeles 不，我们走吧，一点八。
But yeah, that is my honey.
但是，是的，那是我的亲爱的。
[LAUGHS]
[笑]
One eight-- that's his number, 18.
一八——这是他的号码，18。
He grounds out, though.
不过，他还是退出了。
So the game is still tied.
所以这场比赛依然是平局。
And it ends up going to an extra inning.
最终进入加时赛。
Lehman scores one to put them ahead, and then Yeshiva steps up to bat.
雷曼打进一球，让他们领先，然后叶史瓦上前击球。
Lehman just has to keep Yeshiva from scoring one last time.
雷曼只需阻止叶史瓦最后一次得分即可。
They get the first batter out and the second batter.
他们将第一个击球手和第二个击球手出局。
And then Justin, who is still pitching-- has been pitching the entire game-- faces batter number 3.
然后贾斯汀仍在投球，整场比赛都在投球，他将面对三号击球手。
One strike, two strikes.
一击，二击。
And--
还有——
--struck him out.
——把他打倒了。
Lehman won.
雷曼赢了。
[CROWD CHEERING]
[人群欢呼]
All right, and that's the game-- walk off right there.
好吧，这就是游戏——从那里走开。
Chris, our impromptu narrator, and his girlfriend kiss in celebration, the way I think people do when wars end.
我们的即兴叙述者克里斯和他的女朋友接吻庆祝，我认为战争结束时人们会这样做。
It just feels like the thing to do.
感觉就像是要做的事情。
I walk out onto the field to find Justin, the pitcher, whose hand was actually bleeding-- seemed appropriate.
我走到球场上，发现投手贾斯汀，他的手实际上在流血——这似乎是合适的。
In the middle of the game while I was pitching, I snapped a curveball a little too tight.
在比赛进行到一半的时候，当我投球时，我的弧线球有点太紧了。
And I guess I cut myself.
我想我割伤了自己。
And that's what happened.
这就是发生的事情。
And I just kept playing with it.
我只是继续玩它。
How you feel?
你感觉怎么样？
Justin Chamarro I'm so excited.
贾斯汀·查马罗 我很兴奋。
I'm so happy.
我太高兴了。
I'm jumping for joy on the inside.
我心里高兴得跳起来。
This doesn't do justice as to how I feel.
这并不符合我的感受。
I just wish my parents were here to see it.
我只希望我的父母能在这里看到它。
They were at work.
他们正在工作。
Remember, it's a Tuesday afternoon.
请记住，今天是星期二下午。
So the Lehman streak was broken.
于是，雷曼兄弟的连续纪录被打破了。
And for the Yeshiva Maccabees, their streak was now at 100 straight losses.
而对于 Yeshiva Maccabees 来说，他们的连败纪录现在已经达到了 100 场连败。
But at some point, that will end, probably.
但在某个时候，这种情况可能会结束。
It has to, right?
必须如此，对吧？
Sometime, the universe will shift.
有时候，宇宙会发生变化。
The stars and the planets will be in the right spot.
恒星和行星将位于正确的位置。
The ball will take that weird hop that gets you an extra run.
球会进行奇怪的跳跃，让你获得额外的跑动。
They'll get their championship window.
他们将获得冠军窗口。
In fact, did I tell you this was a double header?
事实上，我有没有告诉过你这是一个双标头？
Lehman and Yeshiva had a second game to play against each other.
雷曼和叶史瓦进行了第二场比赛。
Here's what happened.
事情是这样的。
After the first game, almost everyone left.
第一局比赛结束后，几乎所有人都离开了。
It was getting late and super cold.
天色已晚，而且超级冷。
One person on the way to their car pointed out that Yeshiva had run through, like, four pitchers.
一个人在去他们的车的路上指出，Yeshiva 已经穿过了大约四个水罐。
So who could they possibly have left?
那么他们可能留下了谁呢？
There didn't seem to be much point.
似乎没有太多意义。
But the two teams played again.
但两队再次交锋。
And somehow, Yeshiva, after 100 straight losses, they won-- finally.
不知怎的，Yeshiva，在连续 100 场失败之后，他们终于赢了。
[CROWD CHEERING] The championship window had opened for both of them.
[人群欢呼]冠军窗口已经为他们两人打开了。
And then it closed.
然后它就关门了。
Turns out, it was the only win either team would have for the rest of the season.
事实证明，这是两支球队在本赛季余下时间里唯一取得的胜利。
They both went on to lose every remaining game.
他们都输掉了剩下的每一场比赛。
Justin, the Lehman pitcher, graduated the other week.
雷曼兄弟的投手贾斯汀于前一周毕业。
He told me he still thinks about that game, their one win.
他告诉我他仍然想着那场比赛，他们的一场胜利。
He can replay every pitch in his mind.
他可以在脑海中回放每一个投球。
His fingers felt warm and tingly, like every pitch he threw was going to be perfect.
他的手指感觉温暖而刺痛，就像他投出的每一个球都将是完美的。
You could say the stars were aligned that day.
可以说那天星星齐齐了。
But there's another way to see it.
但还有另一种方式来看待它。
The stars had nothing to do with it.
星星与此无关。
They made it happen.
他们成功了。
["TAKE ME OUT TO THE BALL GAME" BY MATT PETERS, MATT SCHELLENBERG]
[“带我去看球赛”作者：马特·彼得斯、马特·谢伦伯格]
David Kestenbaum-- he's the senior editor of our show.
David Kestenbaum——他是我们节目的高级编辑。
So there is, of course, one last piece of business that I have to take care of, I guess, which is-- I got to tell you that Arsenal, my favorite soccer team, the ones who were in that game I was watching in the bar at the beginning of the show-- they lost.
所以，当然，我想，我必须处理最后一件事情，那就是——我必须告诉你，阿森纳，我最喜欢的足球队，我在节目开始时在酒吧观看的那场比赛的球队——他们输了。
We ended the season with nothing, again.
我们再次一无所获地结束了这个赛季。
And on the way out of the bar that day, I ran into a couple of Arsenal fans arguing about the state of the team.
那天，在走出酒吧的路上，我遇到了几个阿森纳球迷，他们正在争论球队的状况。
The inquest had well and truly begun.
审讯已经正式开始。
You have copium out the ass.
你已经把鸦片从屁股里拿出来了。
We were not the better side today.
今天我们并不是更好的一方。
The first half-- we had them on the ropes for, I would say, the first--
上半场——我想说，我们让他们陷入了困境——
So yeah.
所以是的。
Folks were reacting to the loss in different ways.
人们对损失的反应各不相同。
But in the last couple of weeks, there have been whispers about new star players who could join Arsenal next season.
但在过去的几周里，有传言称新的明星球员可能会在下赛季加盟阿森纳。
And the thing I keep hearing from my fellow Arsenal fans is genuine excitement for what might happen.
我不断从我的阿森纳球迷那里听到的是对可能发生的事情的真正兴奋。
Our program was produced today by Angela Gervasi and me and edited by Emanuele Berry.
今天我们的节目由 Angela Gervasi 和我制作，Emanuele Berry 编辑。
The people who put together today's show include Phia Bennin, Michael Comite, Aviva DeKornfeld, Cassie Howley, Seth Lind, Tobin Low, Katherine Rae Mondo, Stowe Nelson, Nadia Reiman, Anthony Roman, Ryan Rumery, Alissa Shipp, Christopher Swetala, Marisa Robertson-Textor, and our managing editor, Sarah Abdurrahman.
今天节目的制作人包括 Phia Bennin、Michael Comite、Aviva DeKornfeld、Cassie Howley、Seth Lind、Tobin Low、Katherine Rae Mondo、Stowe Nelson、Nadia Reiman、Anthony Roman、Ryan Rumery、Alissa Shipp、Christopher Swetala、Marisa Robertson-Textor 和我们的总编辑 Sarah Abdurrahman。
The version of "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" you heard in David Kestenbaum's story was made for us by Matt Peters and Matt Schellenberg.
您在大卫·凯斯滕鲍姆的故事中听到的“带我去看球赛”的版本是由马特·彼得斯和马特·谢伦伯格为我们制作的。
You can find their music at deadmenmusic.com.
您可以在 deadmenmusic.com 上找到他们的音乐。
Special thanks today goes to Abi Adamson, Peter Sotiri, Tan Copsey, Sophia Mussa, Sena Dzotsi, Jason Andrew, and everybody over at the Brooklyn Invincibles.
今天特别感谢阿比·亚当森、彼得·索蒂里、谭·科普西、索菲亚·穆萨、塞纳·佐西、贾森·安德鲁以及布鲁克林无敌队的所有人。
Special thanks also to the two Arsenal bars where I camped out for a couple of weeks for this episode, Highbury Pub and Fancy Free.
还要特别感谢阿森纳的两家酒吧，Highbury Pub 和 Fancy Free，我为了这一集在外面露营了几周。
Special thanks as well to Daniel Malamud, author of the recently released book, This is Football, a must read.
特别感谢最近出版的《这就是足球》一书的作者丹尼尔·马拉穆德（Daniel Malamud）。
And thanks again to Belle Woods, Dana Leigh Marks, Rowan Groom, Lindsey Gauzza, Kristin Kepplinger, Benjamin Remy, Allison Cutler, Eric Brooks, and Qing Li.
再次感谢 Belle Woods、Dana Leigh Marks、Rowan Groom、Lindsey Gauzza、Kristin Kepplinger、Benjamin Remy、Allison Cutler、Eric Brooks 和 Qing Li。
Our website, thisamericanlife.org, where you can stream our archive of over 800 episodes for absolutely free, and there's videos and lists of favorite shows and tons of other stuff there too-- again, that's thisamericanlife.org.
我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org，您可以在其中完全免费地观看我们的 800 多集档案，并且还有视频和最喜欢的节目列表以及大量其他内容 - 再次强调，这就是 thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.
《美国生活》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。
And thanks, as always, to my boss, the big man, Ira Glass.
一如既往地感谢我的老板、大人物艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass)。
You know, when we first started working on this episode, he found it really surprising when I suggested that I be the host.
你知道，当我们刚开始制作这一集时，当我建议我担任主持人时，他感到非常惊讶。
I swear, every day, over and over, he just kept asking--
我发誓，每一天，他都一遍又一遍地问——
Y U.
于U。
Y U.
于U。
Y U.
于U。
Emmanuel Dzotsi I'm Emmanuel Dzotsi.
伊曼纽尔·佐齐 我是伊曼纽尔·佐齐。
Ira Glass will be back next week with more stories of This American Life.
艾拉·格拉斯将于下周回归，带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
This American Life This American Life 与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。