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Prologue: Prologue Chana Joffe-Walt From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
序言：序言 来自 WBEZ 芝加哥的 Chana Joffe-Walt，这就是《美国生活》。
I'm Chana Joffe-Walt, sitting in for Ira Glass.
我是查娜·乔夫-沃尔特 (Chana Joffe-Walt)，代理艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass)。
So a couple of weeks ago, I was calling principals and teachers to find out what it was like to be in schools.
因此，几周前，我打电话给校长和老师，了解学校的情况。
I called Principal Brian Cox in Wyoming.
我给怀俄明州的校长布莱恩·考克斯打了电话。
Did he have a minute to talk?
他有时间说话吗？
Um, I can, yeah.
嗯，我可以，是的。
I've got to be out on bus duty in, like, 15 minutes.
大概 15 分钟后我就得出去搭公车了。
Principal Cox normally does not do bus duty.
考克斯校长通常不执行公交车任务。
He also does not normally teach French class, because he's a principal, and he doesn't know French.
他通常也不教法语课，因为他是校长，他不懂法语。
He did both the week we spoke, because 20% of his staff were absent.
我们谈话的那周他都做了这两项工作，因为他 20% 的员工都缺勤了。
Omicron.
奥微米。
You know, I told somebody today when we walked in-- we had three paraprofessionals down in very key special education classrooms-- and I told them our goal today is to be a hockey goalie and just keep it out of the net.
你知道，今天当我们走进去时，我告诉某人——我们在非常重要的特殊教育教室里有三名辅助专业人员——我告诉他们我们今天的目标是成为一名曲棍球守门员，并将球挡在球门之外。
Two things I learned from calling around to lots of educators over the last few weeks-- school is still a mess.
过去几周，我通过拜访许多教育工作者学到了两件事——学校仍然一团糟。
That's the first thing.
这是第一件事。
And number two, the situation in schools right now can only be described using metaphor.
第二，现在学校的情况只能用比喻来形容。
We're just going to play for eight hours today and try to keep as few of them from getting by us today.
今天我们只打算玩八个小时，并尽量不让他们从我们身边经过。
And then we'll recoup tonight and figure out how we can recover for tomorrow.
然后我们今晚会恢复并弄清楚明天如何恢复。
Oh, man.
哦，伙计。
This year-- [CHUCKLES] I'll try not to cry.
今年——[轻笑]我会尽量不哭。
This year has been hard.
今年很艰难。
[CHUCKLES]
[笑声]
Amy Gallaway, a teacher in Alaska, says, I thought this year was finally going to be normal.
阿拉斯加的一位老师艾米·加拉韦（Amy Gallaway）说，我以为今年终于会正常了。
This year is not.
今年不是。
Like a creaky, creaky bridge that we're trying to get across.
就像我们试图跨越的一座吱吱作响的桥。
The kind of step where you're not going to die, you're going to roll your ankle.
那种你不会死的步骤，你会滚动你的脚踝。
And land with your face in a mud puddle and be like, OK, I could have probably navigated that obstacle a little bit differently.
当你的脸落在泥坑里时，你会想，好吧，我可能会以稍微不同的方式绕过这个障碍。
There are not enough teachers.
师资不够。
There are not enough school bus drivers.
校车司机不够。
You never know which students will come in person, if at all.
你永远不知道哪些学生会亲自来（如果有的话）。
Some kids have just disappeared.
有些孩子就这样失踪了。
Enrollment and attendance-- way down.
入学率和出勤率大幅下降。
The metaphor that I would always use is like, it's as though you are creating a vehicle--
我经常使用的比喻是，就好像你正在创造一辆汽车——
You can tell this guy is about to go in really deep, right?
看得出来这家伙是要陷得很深了吧？
English teacher.
英语老师。
--while driving it at the same time on a road whose conditions are unclear in terrible weather.
——在恶劣天气下同时在路况不明的道路上行驶。
That vehicle, by the way, is a school bus.
顺便说一下，那辆车是校车。
And not only are there 120 kids there, you're also driving from the back of the bus.
那里不仅有 120 个孩子，而且您还坐在公共汽车的后部。
[LAUGHS] That's a metaphor that never ends.
[笑]这是一个永无止境的隐喻。
Yeah.
是的。
It just compounds.
它只是复合。
Chana Joffe-Walt Takeru Nagayoshi, a high school teacher in New Bedford, Massachusetts.
Chana Joffe-Walt Takeru Nagayoshi，马萨诸塞州新贝德福德的一名高中教师。
Mr. Nagayoshi was Massachusetts teacher of the year for 2020.
Nagayoshi 先生荣获 2020 年马萨诸塞州年度最佳教师。
In 2021, he quit his job-- quit his job, right after being publicly recognized as the very best.
2021年，他辞掉了工作——在被公认为最优秀之后就辞去了工作。
He was at the top of his game, and he walked away, which is a pretty huge reversal.
他当时正处于比赛的巅峰，然后他离开了，这是一个相当大的逆转。
He didn't plan to leave public school teaching.
他并不打算离开公立学校的教学岗位。
When schools closed and everything went online, Mr. Nagayoshi missed the classroom deeply.
当学校停课、一切都转向网上时，长吉先生深深地想念教室。
He missed all the things you can only do when everyone is in a room together.
他想念所有只有当每个人都在一个房间里才能做的事情。
The group activities, the collaborative mood board work that my kids do, writing on anchor charts, breaking up into small groups, doing practice rounds of public speaking, and Socratic seminars, and peer writing, and taking out your pens so that you can highlight things on your papers, and give that feedback, and offer commentary to each other's research questions.
小组活动，我的孩子们做的协作情绪板工作，在锚图上写作，分成小组，进行几轮公开演讲练习，苏格拉底式研讨会，以及同伴写作，然后拿出笔，这样你就可以突出论文中的内容，给出反馈，并对彼此的研究问题提供评论。
And there are so many opportunities and magic that I think happens in person.
我认为有很多机会和魔力是亲自发生的。
And when I think about learning, it's such a social thing.
当我想到学习时，它是如此社交。
He was used to feeling inspired every day, energized.
他习惯了每天都充满灵感、充满活力。
But even when they were back in person, Mr. Nagayoshi never got that feeling back.
但即使他们亲自回来，长吉先生也再也没有那种感觉了。
His students didn't get to school on time or regularly at all.
他的学生根本没有按时或按时到校。
And they just weren't focused.
他们只是没有集中注意力。
They were grieving for people they loved.
他们为自己所爱的人感到悲伤。
They were stressed or depressed, juggling lots of responsibilities, or staying up until 4:00 AM playing video games.
他们压力山大，心情郁闷，要同时承担很多责任，或者玩电子游戏熬夜到凌晨 4:00。
And they were just out of the habit of doing school.
他们只是出于上学的习惯。
School had been such a regular routine before, for kids, for everyone.
以前，对于孩子们、对于每个人来说，上学都是一种例行公事。
Mr. Nagayoshi told me he started to question if what they were doing was really serving kids.
长吉先生告诉我，他开始怀疑他们所做的事情是否真的是在为孩子们服务。
He questioned the most basic things about the way school functions.
他对学校运作方式的最基本问题提出了质疑。
Like, why did the school day have to be so long?
比如，为什么上学时间要这么长？
All the rigid routines-- why do they have to learn in class periods?
一切死板的作息——为什么他们必须在课堂上学习？
Why every day?
为什么每天？
Sometimes, I just felt more like a gatekeeper to, like, archaic ways of learning and convening.
有时，我只是觉得自己更像是古老的学习和召集方式的看门人。
I don't know, Chana, I just feel like the seal has been broken, and I don't-- and it's hard for me to imagine a world to go back to that magic.
我不知道，查娜，我只是觉得封印已经被打破了，但我没有——而且我很难想象一个回到那个魔法的世界。
Whoa.
哇哦。
What seal has been broken?
什么封印被打破了？
What does that mean?
这意味着什么？
The-- [SIGHS] what is the seal that has been broken?
那——[叹气]被打破的封印是什么？
I think, our relationship to what school is.
我想，我们和学校的关系是什么。
It's been two years since school buildings first closed.
学校建筑首次关闭已经两年了。
It's kind of hard to remember how impossible that seemed before it happened-- closing entire school buildings.
很难回忆起在关闭整个校舍之前这件事是多么不可能。
School seemed like a fact, inevitable.
上学似乎是一个事实，不可避免的。
If you're a kid, you go to school five days a week.
如果你是个孩子，你每周上学五天。
It's inescapable.
这是不可避免的。
But then, it wasn't anymore.
但后来，就不再是这样了。
Buildings closed for months, more than a year.
建筑物关闭了几个月，甚至一年多。
This happened in lots of different ways across the country.
这种情况在全国各地以多种不同的方式发生。
It was worse for some, better for others.
对某些人来说情况更糟，对另一些人来说则更好。
But talking with teachers and parents and kids, it's clear that school as they left it March 2020 does not look the same as the school they have now.
但与老师、家长和孩子们交谈后发现，他们 2020 年 3 月离开时的学校显然与现在的学校不一样。
Classrooms still close.
教室仍然关闭。
School buses don't come.
校车不来。
Or teachers are out sick, or there aren't enough teachers.
或者老师生病了，或者没有足够的老师。
Some districts have just decided kids don't need to come in on Fridays now.
一些学区刚刚决定孩子们现在不需要在周五来学校。
In the state of Missouri, 1/4 of the school districts have now decided to switch to four days of school a week, instead of five.
在密苏里州，1/4 的学区现已决定将每周上学时间从五天改为四天。
Some kids stopped coming altogether.
有些孩子完全不来了。
School had always been this solid object that now seems much less solid.
学校一直是一个坚固的物体，但现在看起来不那么坚固了。
So many of the people I've been speaking with are questioning the very premise of school, whether it's worth it, whether they need to show up every day, whether they need to be in a classroom.
与我交谈过的很多人都在质疑学校的根本前提，是否值得，他们是否需要每天出现，是否需要在教室里。
It's like everyone involved-- kids, parents, drivers, teachers, superintendents-- all realized at the same time, hey, this treadmill has an off switch.
就像每个参与者——孩子、家长、司机、老师、管理者——都同时意识到，嘿，这台跑步机有一个关闭开关。
This place is not fact.
这个地方不是事实。
School is not inevitable.
上学并不是不可避免的。
Just listen to the way Mr. Nagayoshi talks about when school was inevitable, back before the pandemic, just a few years ago.
只要听听长吉先生是如何谈论的，就在几年前，大流行之前，上学是不可避免的。
Sure, it was hard, and things were never perfect, but it was a different time.
当然，这很困难，而且事情从来都不是完美的，但那是一个不同的时代。
And I don't know if we can ever get back to that.
我不知道我们是否还能回到那个状态。
I think it's a bygone era.
我认为这已经是一个过去的时代了。
Like, the way we've done public school for more than a century?
就像一个多世纪以来我们公立学校的办学方式一样？
Mm-hmm.
嗯嗯。
Chana Joffe-Walt [CHUCKLES] It's gone?
Chana Joffe-Walt [笑] 消失了？
I don't-- I think it is.
我不——我认为是的。
Chana Joffe-Walt Is it?
查纳·乔夫-沃尔特 是吗？
Is school as we've known it over?
我们所知道的学校结束了吗？
Today, I want to bring you the stories of two kids who have drifted away from school.
今天，我想给大家带来两个失学孩子的故事。
And we see what happens when they try to make their way back.
我们看到当他们试图返回时会发生什么。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
The last couple of months, I've been talking with principals, teachers, parents, and kids about school and what's changed for them two years into a pandemic.
在过去的几个月里，我一直在与校长、老师、家长和孩子们谈论学校以及大流行两年来给他们带来的变化。
And I keep returning to that question-- have schools fundamentally changed?
我不断回到这个问题——学校发生了根本性的变化吗？
One of the people I've been checking in with, on and off for a while now, is a woman named MJ and her daughter, Neeah.
我断断续续地询问过的人之一是一位名叫 MJ 的女士和她的女儿 Neeah。
They're a family of three.
他们是一家三口。
MJ is a single parent.
MJ 是一位单亲家长。
Neeah is her youngest, and she has an older daughter, who's grown.
Neeah 是她最小的女儿，她有一个已经长大的大女儿。
They're mixed-race, live in Michigan with a French bulldog.
他们是混血儿，和一只法国斗牛犬住在密歇根州。
During the pandemic, MJ and Neeah constructed a brand-new and very unusual life with one another.
疫情期间，MJ 和 Neeah 一起构建了一种全新的、非常不寻常的生活。
And seeing how much has changed for them, where they ended up after two years of pandemic school, that, maybe more than anyone else I've spoken with, made me feel like, whoa, maybe school as we once knew it truly is over.
看到他们发生了多大的变化，他们在两年的流行病学校结束后的结局，也许比我交谈过的任何人都更让我觉得，哇，也许我们曾经知道的学校真的结束了。
Act One: Big Mother Is Watching Chana Joffe-Walt So here's Act One, Big Mother Is Watching.
第一幕：大妈妈在看着查娜·乔夫-沃尔特 所以这是第一幕，大妈妈在看着。
It begins, of course, when the schools closed two years ago.
当然，这一切是从两年前学校关闭时开始的。
Oh, my god.
我的天啊。
You want to talk about stress?
你想谈谈压力吗？
Man.
男人。
What happened?
发生了什么？
MJ Oh, yeah.
乔丹哦，是的。
It just-- like, what do you do?
就像，你做什么？
MJ is a building engineer.
MJ 是一名建筑工程师。
She had to go to work.
她必须去上班。
She supervises all the maintenance for buildings she works in around Detroit-- make sure the boilers, lighting, carpentry are all attended to.
她负责监督她在底特律周围工作的建筑物的所有维护工作——确保锅炉、照明、木工都得到照顾。
So at first, she just brought Neeah to work.
所以一开始，她只是带 Neeah 去上班。
It was fun, you know what I mean?
很有趣，你知道我的意思吗？
She didn't get in my way, running around while I'm cleaning up, you know, that area that I have to.
她没有妨碍我，在我清理我必须清理的区域时到处乱跑。
So you know, I rode the wave as long as I could.
所以你知道，我尽我所能地乘风破浪。
When her boss made it clear that this was not a long-term arrangement, MJ dropped Neeah with an aunt, then a friend, a babysitter.
当她的老板明确表示这不是一个长期安排时，MJ 将 Neeah 交给了一位阿姨，然后是一位朋友，一名保姆。
A neighbor took her for a week.
邻居带她住了一个星期。
You know, even if it's just a day, OK, exactly how long can they help?
你知道，即使只是一天，好吧，他们到底能帮助多久？
You know, throw them money.
你知道，给他们钱。
How much can you afford?
你能负担多少钱？
Absolutely nothing, but we'll make it work anyway.
绝对没什么，但无论如何我们都会让它发挥作用。
It's a never-- it's a whole thing.
这是从来没有的——这是一整件事。
It's exhausting, mentally.
精神上，很累。
Exhausting, OK?
很累好吗？
And it was months.
那是几个月的时间。
MJ had a new thought.
MJ有了新的想法。
Neeah was nine years old.
尼阿九岁了。
She could prepare food herself, get herself dressed.
她可以自己准备食物，自己穿衣服。
A lot of parents leave kids her age at home alone.
许多父母将与她同龄的孩子单独留在家里。
But MJ hadn't before, certainly not all day.
但乔丹以前没有，当然不是一整天。
And she did not want to now, but she had to go to work.
她现在不想去，但她必须去上班。
She'd be 10 minutes away.
她 10 分钟就到了。
She could come home at lunch to check in.
她可以在午餐时回家办理入住手续。
Neeah would be on Zoom all day, with a teacher from school.
Neeah 会整天和学校老师一起使用 Zoom。
A while back, a friend had recommended security cameras when MJ moved into a new house.
不久前，当乔丹搬进新家时，一位朋友推荐了安全摄像头。
MJ ordered a couple.
MJ 点了一对。
Neeah stayed home alone.
尼娅一个人呆在家里。
MJ left, telling herself, I've got the cameras.
MJ 离开了，告诉自己，我已经拿到相机了。
I could see her in different areas of the house.
我可以在房子的不同区域看到她。
And I have an alarm system that, if any window or doors opened, it alerts the police and makes a really loud noise.
我有一个警报系统，如果任何窗户或门打开，它会提醒警察并发出很大的噪音。
And you know, depending on the area of the house that Neeah's in, she knows what the escape route is and what the emergency plan is.
你知道，根据 Neeah 所在房子的区域，她知道逃生路线是什么以及应急计划是什么。
You know, it's not something that I wanted to do.
你知道，这不是我想做的事。
I wasn't happy to do it, but I can see my kid.
我不乐意这样做，但我可以看到我的孩子。
You know, like I said, I got a friend behind me, my neighbor across-- the old lady across the street.
你知道，就像我说的，我身后有一个朋友，我对面的邻居——街对面的老太太。
Gotta love them, you know?
一定要爱他们，你知道吗？
Right away.
马上。
Chana Joffe-Walt Oh, really?
查纳·乔夫-沃尔特 哦，真的吗？
No, no, right away.
不不不，马上。
Oh, god, yeah.
哦，天哪，是的。
No. My kid's got to be home by herself?
不，我的孩子必须自己在家吗？
I got to keep my eyes on the camera.
我得把眼睛盯着摄像机。
MJ went to work and propped the phone up next to her, all day.
MJ 去上班，一整天都把手机放在身边。
If she had to walk, she'd hold the phone in front of her, and she'd watch as Neeah ate breakfast, signed on to school.
如果她必须走路，她会把电话放在面前，看着尼娅吃早餐、去学校。
When MJ couldn't have eyes on the phone, she'd put it in her pocket and put headphones in to listen.
当 MJ 无法看手机时，她会把手机放在口袋里，然后戴上耳机听。
It's never not been a distraction.
这从来都不是一种干扰。
I'm always busy, but I have to keep my daughter in my ear, because she's home by herself.
我总是很忙，但我必须把女儿放在耳边，因为她一个人在家。
You know?
你知道？
So it did interfere with work, you know.
所以它确实干扰了工作，你知道。
It's what I do.
这就是我所做的。
Like, I'm on a ladder, trying to change lights, and you know, I've got my phone.
就像，我在梯子上，试图换灯，你知道，我拿着手机。
Like, I'll set it up somewhere.
就像，我会把它设置在某个地方。
I'll put, like, the phone in my pocket, put my earphones in, so I can at least hear.
我会把手机放在口袋里，戴上耳机，这样我至少能听到。
And if, you know, something sounds awry, like if I hear a bang, I'd pull my phone out, look at the camera real quick.
如果，你知道，有什么听起来不对劲，比如我听到一声巨响，我就会拿出手机，快速查看相机。
But I'm always listening.
但我一直在听。
You're standing on a ladder, looking at your phone.
您站在梯子上，看着手机。
Changing a fluorescent light in a hallway.
更换走廊里的荧光灯。
And yeah, and you'll hear-- now, if you subtract, da-da-da-dah, and like you hear the kids.
是的，你会听到——现在，如果你减去，达达达达，就像你听到孩子们的声音一样。
They're so loud.
他们太吵了。
Yeah, it's bad.
是的，这很糟糕。
It was bad.
很糟糕。
[CHUCKLES]
[笑声]
MJ watched as much as she could, listened when she couldn't.
MJ 尽可能多地看，不能听时就听。
She was monitoring to keep Neeah safe.
她正在监视以确保 Neeah 的安全。
But as she watched, MJ started to notice some other things.
但当她观察时，MJ 开始注意到一些其他的事情。
Oh.
哦。
[CHUCKLES] Like, I'm very big on eating in my living room.
[笑] 就像，我非常喜欢在客厅里吃饭。
Like, I don't like to-- I don't like when you eat or drink in my living room.
就像，我不喜欢——我不喜欢你在我的客厅里吃喝。
And I've caught her so many times eating and drinking in the living room and setting it next to the laptop.
我曾多次看到她在客厅里吃喝，并将其放在笔记本电脑旁边。
And I don't like my dog on the couch all the time, because he licks his paw, and then licks the couch.
我不喜欢我的狗一直坐在沙发上，因为它会舔爪子，然后舔沙发。
And it's just gross.
这太恶心了。
And she'll let him on the couch.
她会让他坐在沙发上。
MJ told me, on the app, you can see everything.
MJ 告诉我，在应用程序上，你可以看到一切。
And there's a big button right there-- Microphone.
那里有一个大按钮——麦克风。
If you press it, your voice will blast into the room, sounding sort of like a loud walkie-talkie.
如果你按下它，你的声音就会传进房间，听起来有点像大声的对讲机。
I asked--
我问——
So did you use it?
那么你用过吗？
MJ Oh, oh, hell yeah.
MJ 哦，哦，天哪。
[LAUGHS]
[笑]
Tell me.
告诉我。
MJ I would just hit my Microphone button, and I would catch her watching TV all the time.
MJ 我只要按下麦克风按钮，我就会发现她一直在看电视。
I'd be like, turn the TV off.
我想，关掉电视。
What did I say?
我说什么了？
Getting up, playing with the dog, playing with the cat, back and forth.
起来，和狗玩，和猫玩，来来回回。
Like, no, sit your self down, and do your work.
就像，不，坐下来，做你的工作。
Neeah would get herself a drink, bring it to the living room-- Microphone.
Neeah 会给自己倒一杯饮料，带到客厅——麦克风。
Neeah, you know you're not supposed to have that by the laptop.
Neeah，你知道你不应该在笔记本电脑上使用它。
You need to go put it in the kitchen.
你需要去把它放在厨房里。
Neeah, quit playing with the dog and focus.
哎呀，别再和狗玩了，集中注意力吧。
Turn off the TV.
关掉电视。
You're not supposed to have the TV on.
你不应该打开电视。
If you're going to listen to the music, no lyrics.
如果你要听音乐，就不要听歌词。
Yeah, it's just constant redirection and correction, over and over.
是的，这只是不断的重定向和修正，一遍又一遍。
What were the ones that you said the most often?
你最常说的话是什么？
All of 'em.
他们所有人。
Chana Joffe-Walt The app apparently can also record.
Chana Joffe-Walt 该应用程序显然也可以录制。
MJ told me, yeah, you can capture moments on there.
MJ 告诉我，是的，你可以捕捉那里的瞬间。
Or take pictures.
或者拍照。
Chana Joffe-Walt Did you do that?
查娜·乔夫-沃尔特 这是你做的吗？
Why?
为什么？
MJ Just so I can go back and show her her behavior.
MJ 这样我就可以回去向她展示她的行为。
Like, flipping, doing cartwheels, oh, yeah.
比如翻转、侧手翻，哦，是的。
Mm-hmm, I'll go, oh, yeah.
嗯嗯，我去，哦，是的。
Oh, you're doing cartwheels?
哦，你在做侧手翻吗？
OK.
好的。
She tried to turn one before, yes, so I couldn't watch her watching TV.
她之前尝试过转一转，是的，所以我不能看她看电视。
Mm-hmm.
嗯嗯。
MJ So she would always definitely feel like I was spying on her.
MJ 所以她肯定总是觉得我在监视她。
Stop spying on me!
别再监视我了！
[LAUGHS]
[笑]
It sounds like you were.
听起来你就是这样。
MJ I mean, was I spying on her, or was I making sure she was OK?
MJ 我的意思是，我是在监视她，还是在确保她没事？
You know, tomato, to-ma-to.
你知道，番茄，to-ma-to。
Good.
好的。
Chana Joffe-Walt Neeah told me she jumped the first few times her mom's voice appeared in the room with her.
查娜·乔夫-沃尔特·尼阿 (Chana Joffe-Walt Neeah) 告诉我，当她妈妈的声音和她一起出现在房间里时，她最初几次跳了起来。
Other times, she says it was just confusing.
其他时候，她说这只是令人困惑。
Her teacher was talking, and her mom was talking.
她的老师在说话，她的妈妈也在说话。
She felt like, wait, who's telling me to do something right now?
她觉得，等等，谁告诉我现在要做点什么？
A version of this happened as Neeah and I talked.
当 Neeah 和我谈话时，发生了这种情况的一个版本。
MJ was sitting right next to her on the bed, jumping in here and there.
MJ就坐在她旁边的床上，跳来跳去。
Is she the same mom through the cameras?
镜头里的她是同一个妈妈吗？
Yeah, sometimes.
是的，有时。
But through the camera, she's more of a helicopter parent.
但通过镜头，她更像是一位直升机父母。
Make sure you get your chores done before I get home, or I'm going to be mad, or you're going to be grounded.
确保你在我回家之前把家务事做完，否则我会生气，或者你会被禁足。
And I would always want to watch TV, but she's like, no, turn off the TV, turn off the music, you got to focus.
我总是想看电视，但她说，不，关掉电视，关掉音乐，你必须集中注意力。
No chewing gum.
没有口香糖。
Make sure you're paying attention.
确保你在注意。
She said she'd talk to you about your drinks and the dog a lot, too.
她说她也会和你经常谈论你的饮料和狗。
Oh, yeah.
哦，是的。
MJ Are you supposed to drink by the laptop?
MJ 你应该在笔记本电脑旁喝酒吗？
No. MJ Are you supposed to eat by the laptop?
不，MJ 你应该在笔记本电脑旁吃饭吗？
Mm-hmm.
嗯嗯。
Neeah Yeah, it seems more different over the camera, actually, because-- yeah, much more of a micromanager on the cameras than in person.
是的，实际上，在摄像机上看起来更不同，因为——是的，在摄像机上比在现场更像是一个微观管理者。
[MJ LAUGHS] Chana Joffe-Walt You can tell MJ and Neeah like each other.
[MJ 笑] Chana Joffe-Walt 你可以告诉 MJ 和 Neeah 彼此喜欢。
And even with this setup, the cameras watching Neeah, they started calling it, "the system." It didn't strain their relationship.
即使有了这样的设置，摄像机仍然在监视 Neeah，他们开始称其为“系统”。这并没有使他们的关系变得紧张。
If anything, the system made them closer.
如果说有什么不同的话，那就是系统让他们更加亲近了。
When Neeah hadn't heard her mom's voice for a while over the cameras, she'd FaceTime her mom, see what she was up to.
当 Neeah 有一阵子没有通过摄像机听到妈妈的声音时，她会通过 FaceTime 与妈妈通话，看看她在做什么。
She started to learn about her mom's day.
她开始了解她母亲节。
She learned her habits.
她学会了自己的习惯。
Neeah told me she got to the point where she could anticipate which things would trigger her mom's voice appearing in the room.
Neeah 告诉我，她已经能够预测哪些事情会触发她妈妈的声音出现在房间里。
Like, Neeah would turn on the TV, and as she was doing it--
就像，Neeah 会打开电视，当她这样做时——
I'm like, oh, god, I know she's about to come on the camera, tell me to focus, get off the TV.
我当时想，天哪，我知道她即将出现在镜头前，告诉我集中注意力，离开电视。
That's funny.
那很好笑。
Chana Joffe-Walt You would know ahead of time.
Chana Joffe-Walt 你会提前知道的。
Did it stop you from doing the thing that she didn't want you to do?
它是否阻止你做她不希望你做的事情？
Um, no. Mm-mm.
嗯，不。嗯嗯。
No. I'm still sassy.
不，我还是很时髦。
I still got some attitude.
我还是有一些态度的。
[MJ LAUGHS] Chana Joffe-Walt In in-person school in the classroom, this was a problem.
[MJ 笑] Chana Joffe-Walt 在课堂上的面对面学校中，这是一个问题。
Neeah loves to talk.
尼阿爱说话。
She's a chatty kid, and she'd get in trouble for talking in class, distracting other kids, not keeping her hands to herself.
她是一个很爱说话的孩子，她会因为在课堂上说话、分散其他孩子的注意力、不把手放在自己身上而惹上麻烦。
MJ worried about it.
MJ对此很担心。
She would get calls from school saying Neeah was acting out today.
她会接到学校打来的电话，说尼今天表现不佳。
Neeah was suspended.
尼赫被停职。
Parent-teacher conferences were often a lot of, "Neeah's a great kid, but she has a hard time focusing." But now, the space between home and school had collapsed.
家长会经常有很多这样的内容：“Neeah 是一个很棒的孩子，但她很难集中注意力。”但现在，家庭和学校之间的空间已经崩溃了。
Instead of hearing about Neeah second-hand, MJ was watching.
MJ 没有听过有关 Neeah 的二手消息，而是在观看。
And she says it was kind of amazing.
她说这有点令人惊奇。
Neeah was curious.
尼娅很好奇。
She was hard-working.
她很努力。
She would ask questions.
她会问问题。
Like, if she didn't know, she'd raise her hand, because you'd see her on camera-- raise her hand, waiting patiently and quietly.
就像，如果她不知道，她会举起手，因为你会在镜头上看到她——举起手，耐心而安静地等待。
Whereas Neeah, she usually-- she interrupts.
而 Neeah，她通常——她会打断。
Let's just be real.
让我们说实话吧。
Not saying she never interrupted, but like, I just-- she was raising her hand, waiting patiently, asked questions, gave the right answer.
并不是说她从不打断，但就像，我只是——她举起手，耐心等待，提出问题，给出正确的答案。
And it's like, I don't ever get to see that.
就像，我永远看不到这一点。
You know what I mean?
你知道我的意思？
I don't get to hear the good stuff all the time.
我不能一直听到好东西。
That's really kind of special that you got to see her that way.
你能以这样的方式见到她，这真的很特别。
Yeah.
是的。
Chana Joffe-Walt Like, to see her strengths and what she's capable of.
Chana Joffe-Walt 就像，看看她的优势和她的能力。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah.
是的。
Absolutely.
绝对地。
And her weaknesses, you know.
还有她的弱点，你知道的。
I see the distraction.
我看到了干扰。
She is easily distracted.
她很容易分心。
You know, it is hard, and just-- well, it's difficult for her to stay focused, you know?
你知道，这很难，而且——嗯，她很难保持专注，你知道吗？
But when she gets into her groove, you know, she stays in it.
但当她进入自己的最佳状态时，你知道，她就会留在其中。
And she just does amazing things.
她只是做了令人惊奇的事情。
Yeah.
是的。
I'm glad I got to see this side of my kid that they haven't seen, that I haven't seen.
我很高兴我能看到我孩子的这一面，这是他们没有看到的，我也没有看到的。
And it's like, this is who she is.
就像，这就是她。
I've had that moment, like wow, this is who my kid is.
我有过这样的时刻，哇，这就是我的孩子。
I'd never heard of someone doing this-- MJ's system, using security cameras in your house to monitor kids doing remote school, while you have to go to work.
我从来没有听说过有人这样做——MJ 的系统，在你必须去上班的时候，在你家里使用安全摄像头来监控孩子们在远程上学。
It seemed extreme to me, but then I considered all the other arrangements and half-solutions I've heard parents devising to replace what school provided-- a free, dependable place to drop your kids.
这对我来说似乎有些极端，但后来我考虑了我听到的所有其他安排和半解决方案，我听到家长们正在设计这些方案来取代学校提供的东西——一个免费、可靠的地方来送孩子。
Parents who brought kids to their jobs at restaurants planted them at a table in the corner, while they worked their shift and hoped nobody in management asked, whose kid is that?
带孩子去餐馆工作的父母把他们放在角落里的一张桌子上，而他们轮班时希望管理层没有人问，那是谁的孩子？
Moms who put their children in empty hotel rooms to do remote school while they cleaned the other rooms down the hall.
妈妈们把孩子放在空荡荡的酒店房间里去远程上学，而自己则打扫大厅里的其他房间。
Parents who cut back on their hours or quit their jobs, took night shifts, so they could stay up all day with their kids doing Zoom school.
那些减少工作时间或辞去工作的父母会上夜班，这样他们就可以整天陪孩子上 Zoom 学校。
Families that moved their entire lives to new cities that were cheaper or closer to a grandma who could look after the kids.
一些家庭一生都搬到了新的城市，这些城市的房价更便宜，或者离可以照顾孩子的奶奶更近。
MJ had a system that did not require her to depend on anyone else.
MJ 有一个不需要她依赖任何人的系统。
The system was never late, or stuck in traffic, or sick, or too tired.
该系统从不迟到、堵车、生病或太累。
It's kind of ingenious.
这有点巧妙。
School was not reliable.
学校不可靠。
The system was entirely within her control.
系统完全在她的掌控之中。
Did you know other people who were doing this?
你知道其他人也在这样做吗？
No. I mean, if other moms are out there not wanting to say nothing, I get it.
不，我的意思是，如果其他妈妈不想说什么，我明白。
But, whew, there's not that panic of what so many other parents had to face that didn't have a system.
但是，哇，并没有像许多其他没有系统的父母必须面对的那样恐慌。
I feel like I should do like an infomercial or something, you know-- (LAUGHING) for the system of security cameras and things like that.
我觉得我应该做一些电视广告之类的事情，你知道的——（笑）安全摄像头系统之类的。
Yeah.
是的。
MJ I made it work.
MJ 我成功了。
[LAUGHS] I made it work.
[笑]我成功了。
And then, schools reopened.
然后，学校重新开放。
After 11 months of constant contact with her mom, zero separation, Neeah went back to a school building.
经过 11 个月与妈妈零距离的持续接触后，Neeah 回到了学校大楼。
I had butterflies the entire time I was there.
我在那儿的整个时间里都感到蝴蝶结。
I'm like, oh, my god.
我就像，哦，天哪。
What if I do something wrong?
如果我做错了什么怎么办？
What if I get suspended today?
如果我今天被停职怎么办？
And like, what if I don't make it through fourth grade?
比如说，如果我没能读完四年级怎么办？
Mm-hmm.
嗯嗯。
Neeah Just a whole day of butterflies, and--
Neeah 只是一整天的蝴蝶，而且 -
Yeah.
是的。
Neeah Yeah, in the snap of a finger, I'm like, oh, crap.
是的，弹指一挥间，我就想，哦，糟糕。
And my mom's not going to be here to be-- like, be here to watch over me, tell me to focus.
我妈妈不会在这里监视我，告诉我要集中注意力。
Like, how am I going to do this?
比如，我该怎么做？
How am I going to do that without her telling me what to do?
如果没有她告诉我该怎么做，我该怎么做？
And that's when I started getting these panic attacks.
就在那时我开始出现这些恐慌症。
Like--
就像——
You started getting panic attacks when you went back to school?
当你回到学校后，你开始惊恐发作吗？
Yeah.
是的。
Chana Joffe-Walt I'm sorry to hear that.
查纳·乔夫-沃尔特 听到这个消息我很遗憾。
Mm-hmm.
嗯嗯。
One of them was really bad, because I was in a panic attack for about 10, 15 minutes, because someone made me mad, really mad, kind of to the point where I started to cry a little bit.
其中一次真的很糟糕，因为我陷入了大约10、15分钟的恐慌之中，因为有人让我生气，真的很生气，以至于我开始哭了一点。
And then, I asked the substitute teacher if I can go to the bathroom.
然后我问代课老师我是否可以去洗手间。
And then that's when it happened.
然后事情就发生了。
Like, I completely stopped.
就像，我完全停了下来。
My heart stopped.
我的心停止了跳动。
My hands were shaking completely.
我的手完全颤抖了。
I couldn't even talk.
我什至无法说话。
And then, thank god, this teacher, Ms. Murf let me sit in her room for a little bit, cool down, and go back to my room.
然后，谢天谢地，这位老师，默夫女士让我在她的房间里坐了一会儿，冷静下来，然后回到我的房间。
You know, when you send a preschooler to their first day of school, that first big separation?
你知道，当你送学龄前儿童去上学的第一天，第一次大的分离吗？
And it's so hard, but you can never really know exactly what it's like for the kid, because they're so little.
这很难，但你永远无法真正了解孩子的感受，因为他们太小了。
They can't really articulate it.
他们无法真正表达出来。
But here is a fourth-grader who can.
但这是一个四年级的学生可以做到的。
Neeah says she missed knowing where her mom was.
Neeah 说她很想知道妈妈在哪里。
She missed her voice in the room.
她想念房间里她的声音。
When things happened at school, when a kid said something mean, or she didn't understand the teacher, she wanted her mom there to take care of it, to protect her.
当学校发生事情时，当孩子说了一些刻薄的话，或者她不明白老师的意思时，她希望她的妈妈在那里照顾她，保护她。
Like, how I said she was talking a lot on the cameras?
就像，我怎么说她在镜头前说了很多话？
Mm-hmm.
嗯嗯。
Neeah My life would be easier if she could see every move, everything that would happen, and know beforehand, and then contact somebody right away.
Neeah 如果她能看到每一个动作，将要发生的一切，并提前知道，然后立即联系某人，我的生活会更容易。
But the world is not like that, so--
但世界并非如此，所以——
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, that's sort of part of growing up, I think.
是的，我想这就是成长的一部分。
Mm-hmm.
嗯嗯。
It would still be nice to hear her say, don't do this, don't do that, like it is in movies.
很高兴听到她说，不要这样做，不要那样做，就像电影中那样。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, like my mom would be the narrator of my head, and she'd tell me, make sure you ask questions, get the answers right, don't get distracted.
是的，就像我妈妈会成为我头脑的叙述者一样，她会告诉我，确保你提出问题，得到正确的答案，不要分心。
It's kind of what you hope happens with your kid, that your voice gets in their head and helps guide them through difficult stuff, but you know, a metaphorical voice in the head that eventually it becomes their own voice as they develop into their own people.
这就是你希望发生在你的孩子身上的事情，你的声音进入他们的头脑并帮助引导他们度过困难的事情，但你知道，头脑中的隐喻声音最终会成为他们自己的声音，因为他们成长为自己的人。
Neeah had come to rely on a literal voice and just her mom's presence.
Neeah 开始依赖真实的声音和她妈妈的存在。
Neeah heard from her mom so much during the day, through the cameras or on FaceTime, she missed knowing what her mom was up to at any given moment.
Neeah 白天通过摄像头或 FaceTime 听到妈妈的消息太多，她想念妈妈在任何特定时刻都在做什么。
She says it's actually what she missed most-- tracking her mom's day in parallel with her school day.
她说这实际上是她最怀念的——在上学的同时记录她母亲的一天。
It felt scary to lose that.
失去它感觉很可怕。
I wish I could see and watch whatever she's doing.
我希望我能看到并观察她所做的一切。
I'd want to see her, how hard she's working, or when people just don't give her anything to do.
我想看看她，看看她工作有多努力，或者当人们不给她任何事可做时。
And then, just see what she eats for lunch-- if she eats lunch or breakfast-- because she doesn't really eat lunch or breakfast, because she doesn't get enough time to eat breakfast.
然后，看看她午餐吃什么——如果她吃午餐或早餐——因为她没有真正吃午餐或早餐，因为她没有足够的时间吃早餐。
I do, because breakfast and lunch are probably the most important meals of the day.
我愿意，因为早餐和午餐可能是一天中最重要的两餐。
So if you could choose, you would like to have her watching you all the time and you watching her all the time?
那么如果可以选择的话，你愿意让她一直看着你，而你也一直看着她吗？
Yeah.
是的。
Chana Joffe-Walt MJ, Neeah's mother, does not want this.
Neeah 的母亲 Chana Joffe-Walt MJ 不希望这样。
What MJ wanted was to go back to how things were, where she'd drop Neeah at school and drive away, back to the time when school assumed responsibility for her child's safety and well-being.
MJ 想要的是回到原来的样子，她把 Neeah 送到学校然后开车离开，回到学校对她孩子的安全和福祉负责的时代。
But once Neeah was back in school, MJ kept waiting for that feeling, the separation between parent life and work life, to set in.
但一旦尼阿回到学校，乔丹就一直在等待那种感觉，即父母生活和工作生活之间的分离的出现。
But it didn't.
但事实并非如此。
It felt different.
感觉不一样了。
First of all, Neeah was at a different school.
首先，Neeah 在另一所学校。
Right before the pandemic, MJ bought a house, not far, but in a different school district.
就在大流行之前，乔丹买了一套房子，距离不远，但在不同的学区。
So that took getting used to, but there were other things.
所以这需要适应，但还有其他事情。
Neeah bonded with her new teacher.
Neeah 与她的新老师关系融洽。
And then suddenly, there was a substitute teacher, then another sub.
突然间，出现了一名代课老师，然后又出现了一名替补老师。
Students got COVID.
学生感染了新冠病毒。
Teachers got COVID.
老师们感染了新冠病毒。
Whole classrooms closed.
整个教室都关闭了。
Neeah's favorite teacher-- the art teacher, Ms. Gonzales-- quit.
尼阿最喜欢的老师——艺术老师冈萨雷斯女士——辞职了。
The next art teacher-- she quit, too.
下一位美术老师——她也辞职了。
One day, MJ went to drop Neeah off at the bus stop.
有一天，MJ 去公交车站送 Neeah 下车。
It just didn't come.
它只是没有来。
It didn't come one morning.
一天早上它还没来。
The bus never came one morning.
有一天早上，公共汽车从未来过。
There was issues with subs.
潜艇存在问题。
And I mean, I don't really know what their issues are, but it was a sub on both days.
我的意思是，我真的不知道他们的问题是什么，但这两天都是替补。
And you know, I'm at work.
你知道，我在工作。
When she went to pick Neeah up after school--
当她放学后去接 Neeah 时——
At the end of the day, I'm at the bus stop waiting for the bus.
一天结束时，我在公交车站等公交车。
The bus came.
公共汽车来了。
She didn't get off the bus.
她没有下车。
I panicked.
我惊慌失措。
What went through your head when she didn't get off the bus?
当她没有下车时你脑子里在想什么？
Just, it's instant, like, oh, my god-- just afraid.
只是，它是瞬间的，就像，哦，天哪——只是害怕。
Like, I wouldn't even know where to begin to look for my daughter in the city.
就像，我什至不知道从哪里开始在城里寻找我的女儿。
God forbid.
上帝禁止。
The old way of doing school, the pre-pandemic way, felt different.
旧的上学方式，即大流行前的方式，感觉有所不同。
MJ hated not knowing where Neeah was.
MJ 讨厌不知道 Neeah 在哪里。
She hated not seeing what was happening in the school building.
她讨厌看不到教学楼里发生的事情。
The separation felt natural before, but now it felt agonizing.
以前的分离感觉很自然，但现在却感到痛苦。
Neeah would say there were fights at school.
Neeah 会说学校里有打架事件。
MJ wished she could see what happened.
MJ 希望她能看到发生了什么。
There was an incident with Neeah, another kid, and a marker.
Neeah、另一个孩子和一支记号笔发生了一起事件。
Another time, Neeah came home saying a boy touched her butt, and MJ was irate that it happened, but also that she didn't know it was happening, that the school hadn't called right away.
还有一次，Neeah 回家说一个男孩碰了她的屁股，MJ 对发生的事情感到愤怒，但她也不知道发生了这种事，学校没有立即打电话给她。
Whatever happens, happens.
无论发生什么，都会发生。
And then when they have all the information, then they want to call you.
当他们掌握了所有信息后，他们就会给你打电话。
I want to know right away.
我想马上知道。
Constant communication-- I don't care if you have to interrupt my day at work.
持续的沟通——我不在乎你是否必须打扰我的工作。
If something is going on with my child, I need to know about it.
如果我的孩子发生了什么事，我需要知道。
Like, I'm in the loop.
就像，我在循环中。
Yeah.
是的。
Part of what seems like might be happening is that you had this year where you were deeply involved in every single thing Neeah did, and you watched.
看起来可能发生的事情的一部分是，今年你深入参与了 Neeah 所做的每一件事，并且你观看了。
You were literally watching her.
你确实在看着她。
Everything.
一切。
Chana Joffe-Walt Yeah.
查纳·乔夫-沃尔特 是的。
And now, you have to trust this school and all these people in the school--
现在，你必须相信这所学校和学校里的所有这些人——
--and a school system to do what you were doing.
——以及一个可以做你正在做的事情的学校系统。
Yeah.
是的。
You know, it's very hard for my daughter to be in a new district, me to not have control, to not see her, but to not be in the loop of things.
你知道，对于我的女儿来说，在一个新的地区，我很难控制，看不到她，但又不被卷入事情的循环中。
Yes, that is very hard.
是的，这很难。
You know what I mean?
你知道我的意思？
It's like, oh, my god-- it's so frustrating.
就像，哦，天哪——这太令人沮丧了。
Since you are, like, at the end of my workday, I am about to order my lunch, so if you could just give me one second.
因为你就像是在我一天的工作日结束时，我正要点午餐，所以请给我一点时间。
Please-- no, eat.
请——不，吃吧。
Eat.
吃。
MJ But I am starving.
MJ 但我饿了。
MJ was grasping for a plan, calling the school repeatedly for help, not eating breakfast, as her daughter suspected.
MJ 正在寻找一个计划，她不断地打电话给学校寻求帮助，但正如她女儿所怀疑的那样，她没有吃早餐。
[SIGHS] I feel like I just want to pull her, regardless, before I even have a plan.
[叹气]我觉得我只想拉着她，无论如何，在我制定计划之前。
You know?
你知道？
I'm trying to mentally come up with a plan, while trying to work full-time and doing all this over-time.
我试图在心里制定一个计划，同时尝试全职工作并加班完成所有这些工作。
I'm trying, but it's like, oh, god, that's her school calling me right now.
我正在努力，但感觉就像是，哦，天哪，这是她的学校现在在给我打电话。
Oh, go ahead.
哦，继续吧。
Call me back.
给我回电话。
MJ OK, give me just--
MJ 好的，给我——
OK.
好的。
Take your time.
慢慢来。
MJ Give me one moment.
MJ 给我一点时间。
OK.
好的。
Hello?
你好？
Hey, MJ.
嘿，乔丹。
It's Chana.
是查娜。
MJ Hey, how are you?
嘿，你好吗？
Good.
好的。
How have you been?
你最近怎么样？
MJ No, I've been good.
MJ 不，我一直很好。
I've been real good.
我真的已经很好了
This relaxed, breezy person is a mother who has her daughter back at home.
这个轻松、轻松的人是一位带着女儿回家的母亲。
In January, MJ pulled Neeah from school.
一月份，MJ 将 Neeah 从学校开除。
The district is offering a virtual option, so Neeah is back online.
该学区提供虚拟选项，因此 Neeah 重新上线。
Yeah.
是的。
No, I'm not returning her [INAUDIBLE] with all the fifth graders-- all of fifth grade.
不，我不会把她[听不清]和所有五年级学生一起归还——所有五年级学生。
So you're just kind of like, we're going to sit this whole thing out?
所以你只是想，我们要搁置这整件事吗？
Yeah, um-- Chana Joffe-Walt For how long?
是的，嗯——Chana Joffe-Walt 多久了？
That's what I don't know.
这就是我不知道的。
Chana Joffe-Walt MJ told me, if the school situation did not improve, she'd consider remote school for the rest of Neeah's education.
Chana Joffe-Walt MJ 告诉我，如果学校情况没有改善，她会考虑在远程学校完成 Neeah 的剩余教育。
This is when I began to wonder if school, as we've known it, might be over.
从那时起，我开始怀疑我们所知的学校是否会结束。
It's not only that MJ was questioning Neeah's school in all these new ways, it's that now, she could imagine an alternative.
MJ 不仅以所有这些新方式质疑 Neeah 的学校，而且现在，她可以想象另一种选择。
When something ever-present and unquestioned in your life disappears for a year, you learn it's not the only way to do things.
当你生活中一直存在且不容置疑的某件事消失一年时，你就会发现这并不是做事的唯一方法。
And there's no unknowing that.
没有人不知道这一点。
Instead of returning to school, MJ and Neeah returned to the system.
MJ 和 Neeah 没有返回学校，而是返回了系统。
It was exactly the same, except for the school part.
除了学校部分之外，完全一样。
Neeah is in virtual school again, but this time it's not run by her public school.
Neeah 再次进入虚拟学校，但这次不是由她的公立学校运营。
Neeah's school district did what an increasing number of public districts are now doing.
Neeah 的学区做了越来越多的公共学区现在正在做的事情。
They subcontracted a private company to provide an online remote-school option.
他们分包了一家私人公司来提供在线远程学校选项。
The company provides an online platform and the curriculum.
该公司提供在线平台和课程。
Neeah can go on, get all her lessons all by herself.
Neeah 可以继续自己完成所有课程。
She's not on Zoom.
她没有使用 Zoom。
There's no teacher giving live instruction, and there's no classmates.
没有老师现场指导，也没有同学。
She does everything alone, independently.
她独自做所有事情，独立。
I just wake up in the morning.
我早上刚起床。
I get my hair done, get my teeth brushed, get dressed.
我整理头发、刷牙、穿衣服。
I can do any subject I like, if I wanted to-- English, learning arts, math, PE, art.
如果我愿意的话，我可以学习任何我喜欢的科目——英语、学习艺术、数学、体育、艺术。
What if you don't understand the instructions?
如果您不明白说明怎么办？
I can message the teacher, 'cause it gives me a little email box.
我可以给老师发消息，因为它给了我一个小电子邮箱。
She can email a teacher, but she rarely does.
她可以给老师发电子邮件，但她很少这样做。
Neeah told me she likes that she can pace herself.
Neeah 告诉我她喜欢自己能控制节奏。
She structures her own day.
她安排自己的一天。
Sometimes, she starts at 8:00 AM, sometimes 9:00.
有时，她早上 8:00 开始，有时 9:00。
Works for a couple hours, then has lunch.
工作几个小时，然后吃午饭。
Watches Netflix, and just keeps going until she's done.
看 Netflix，然后一直看下去，直到看完。
I can just-- like, if it takes me all day, I'll do it all day.
我可以——就像，如果这需要我一整天，我就会做一整天。
I would like for it to be done before I get home, though, you know?
不过，我希望在我回家之前完成这件事，你知道吗？
I always get it done.
我总是能完成它。
MJ She shouldn't be in school while I'm getting home from work.
MJ：我下班回家时她不应该在学校。
But--
但是——
Will you go a whole day without talking to anybody else?
你愿意一整天都不跟别人说话吗？
Yeah.
是的。
Chana Joffe-Walt So you can get yourself up at 7:00 in the morning, do your work yourself, take your break, watch TV, go back to doing your work, finish your schoolwork, and get to the end of the day without talking to anybody?
Chana Joffe-Walt 那么您可以在早上 7:00 起床，自己做自己的工作，休息一下，看电视，然后继续做自己的工作，完成作业，并在不与任何人交谈的情况下完成一天的工作？
Um, no. 'Cause every time I wake up in the morning, I'm like, I'm going to call Mom, make sure she's OK, make sure she got to work safely.
嗯，不。因为每次我早上醒来，我都会想，我要给妈妈打电话，确保她没事，确保她安全上班。
She calls me, literally, every day, every morning.
她确实每天、每天早上都给我打电话。
Is this school?
这是学校吗？
It lacks every element I might have said defines what school is.
它缺乏我可能所说的定义学校是什么的所有元素。
She doesn't go to a building.
她不去建筑物。
There's no teaching, no schedule, no classmates.
没有教学，没有时间表，没有同学。
That's the part I couldn't get over.
这是我无法克服的部分。
No kids.
没有孩子。
The only person Neeah talks to all day is her mom.
Neeah 整天唯一说话的人是她妈妈。
That part worries MJ, that Neeah's missing everything about school that mattered most to MJ as a kid.
这部分让 MJ 感到担忧，因为 Neeah 错过了对 MJ 小时候最重要的学校的一切。
MJ says school's where I figured out who I was.
MJ 说学校是我认识自己的地方。
It's where I learned I'm not the prettiest girl, but the fastest on field day.
正是在那里，我了解到我不是最漂亮的女孩，但却是比赛中跑得最快的女孩。
It's where she learned when to fight, how to apologize.
在那里她学会了何时战斗、如何道歉。
It's where she made her best friends, lifelong friendships, she says, of 26-plus years.
她说，在这里她结识了最好的朋友，长达 26 年的终生友谊。
She's worried Neeah is missing all of that.
她担心 Neeah 错过了这一切。
But Neeah sounds pretty settled, like she'd finally arrived.
但尼娅听起来很平静，就像她终于来了一样。
Total peace and quiet is my kind of thing.
完全的平和与安静是我的风格。
When Neeah takes a break or finishes her online work, she sits on the couch at home, and she watches her favorite show on Netflix-- Alexa and Katie.
当 Neeah 休息或完成在线工作时，她会坐在家里的沙发上，在 Netflix 上观看她最喜欢的节目——Alexa 和 Katie。
It's a wholesome sitcom about two best friends.
这是一部关于两个最好的朋友的健康情景喜剧。
One gets cancer, but survives.
一个人得了癌症，但还是活下来了。
And now, they're heading to high school for the first time, choosing their first-day-of-school outfits.
现在，他们第一次去高中，选择开学第一天的服装。
Will they have the same lunch period?
他们的午餐时间会相同吗？
Everyone, get out your school schedules.
大家快拿出你们的学校时间表吧。
One, two, three.
一二三。
I'm Alexa, and this is my best friend, Katie.
我是 Alexa，这是我最好的朋友凯蒂。
We're about to start high school.
我们即将开始高中生活。
This is what Neeah's watching from her dystopian cyber school surveillance state.
这就是 Neeah 从她的反乌托邦网络学校监控状态中看到的一切。
She's watching school.
她正在看学校。
When Takeru Nagayoshi, the Teacher of the Year, who we heard from at the beginning of this show, told me pre-pandemic school was a bygone era, I think this is what that looks like-- Neeah watching school alone in her home, with cameras watching her.
当我们在节目开始时听到的年度最佳教师长吉健 (Takeru Nagayoshi) 告诉我，大流行前的学校已经成为过去的时代时，我认为这就是看起来的样子 - Neeah 独自在家里看学校，摄像机监视着她。
That's where this story was going to end.
这就是这个故事即将结束的地方。
But last week, as I was putting it together, I got one more message from MJ.
但上周，当我把它放在一起时，我又收到了 MJ 的一条消息。
She said she learned Neeah had not been submitting assignments in her online school.
她说她得知 Neeah 没有在她的在线学校提交作业。
Turns out a teacher-less outsourced program with no actual person-to-person interaction did not work.
事实证明，没有教师、没有实际人与人互动的外包项目行不通。
Or at least, it didn't work for Neeah.
或者至少，这对 Neeah 不起作用。
MJ was deeply deflated.
MJ 非常沮丧。
Her system had failed, and the school system had failed, too.
她的系统失败了，学校系统也失败了。
She told me she'd decided to send Neeah back to school in person, for now.
她告诉我，她决定暂时亲自送 Neeah 回学校。
That is, until she figures out what's next.
也就是说，直到她弄清楚接下来会发生什么。
Coming up, a kid who disappeared from school a year and a half ago shows up again and tries to just blend in.
接下来，一个一年半前从学校失踪的孩子再次出现，并试图融入其中。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues.
芝加哥公共广播电台一分钟后我们的节目仍在继续。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Chana Joffe-Walt, sitting in for Ira Glass.
我是查娜·乔夫-沃尔特 (Chana Joffe-Walt)，代理艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass)。
At the show this year, we've been talking a lot about a feeling we've all noticed around us-- a feeling of unraveling.
在今年的展会上，我们一直在谈论我们周围都注意到的一种感觉——一种解开的感觉。
We're doing a couple of episodes about people who are facing things that feel like they're coming apart in front of them.
我们正在制作几集，讲述的是那些面临着感觉自己即将崩溃的事情的人们。
Like, we did a show a couple of weeks ago about cities and towns becoming unlivable with climate change.
比如，几周前我们做了一个关于城镇因气候变化而变得不适宜居住的节目。
This episode is also about that feeling, a slow-moving unraveling in schools.
这一集也是关于这种感觉，学校里缓慢的瓦解。
We are now in the third consecutive school year disrupted by COVID-- disruptions that have at times undone even the most basic foundational part of what school is, like the idea that kids go to school every day.
我们现在已经连续第三个学年受到新冠疫情的干扰，这种干扰有时甚至破坏了学校最基本的部分，比如孩子们每天都要去上学的想法。
Attendance is down.
出席人数下降了。
Enrollment is down.
报名人数下降了。
I remember back when schools first closed two years ago, there were kids who just disappeared.
我记得两年前学校第一次关闭时，有些孩子就失踪了。
I saw a report in the fall of 2020 that estimated three million kids were out of touch with school.
我在 2020 年秋天看到一份报告，估计有 300 万孩子无法上学。
A principal in Los Angeles, Vanessa Garza, told me about one of them-- a student they completely lost track of when schools closed in March 2020.
洛杉矶的一位校长瓦妮莎·加尔萨 (Vanessa Garza) 向我讲述了其中一名学生的故事，当 2020 年 3 月学校停课时，他们完全失去了这名学生的踪迹。
And then a month into this school year, I was talking with Principal Garza on the phone, and she says, oh, that girl who disappeared back in spring 2020--
本学年开始一个月后，我在电话中与加尔萨校长交谈，她说，哦，那个在 2020 年春天失踪的女孩——
Literally, yesterday, that student and her family just re-enrolled with us.
事实上，昨天，那个学生和她的家人刚刚重新注册到我们这里。
Just yesterday?
就在昨天？
Principal Garza Exactly.
加尔萨校长 没错。
You know, I'd like to come back.
你知道，我想回来。
We're like, great.
我们就像，太棒了。
Let's get a copy of your records.
让我们获取您的记录副本。
Where were you?
当时你在哪里？
What school were you at, so I can request them?
你是哪个学校的，我可以问问吗？
And they're like, I didn't go to school.
他们说，我没去上学。
So in the time that the pandemic started and shut down our schools, March 13, 2020, till now, that student hasn't been in school.
因此，在大流行开始并关闭我们学校的那段时间，2020年3月13日，到现在为止，那个学生还没有上学。
She never finished sixth grade, missed all of seventh grade.
她从未读完六年级，甚至错过了七年级的全部课程。
And now here she was, a month into her eighth-grade school year, ready to return.
现在，她已经进入八年级一个月了，准备返校。
This kid-- I'm going to call her Maricela.
这个孩子——我要叫她玛丽塞拉。
That's not her real name.
那不是她的真名。
Her mom told me I could meet her at school for one of her first days back, which I really wanted to, because I'd always wanted to know, what were kids who were not in school doing all that time?
她妈妈告诉我，我可以在她回来的第一天在学校见到她，我真的很想这么做，因为我一直想知道，那些不在学校的孩子们一直在做什么？
Literally, like, what was she doing with her time?
从字面上看，就像，她在做什么？
What were her days like for the last year and a half?
这一年半，她的日子过得怎么样？
And what would it be like to come back to school?
回到学校会是什么样子？
Act Two: The Case of The Vanishing Sixth Grader Chana Joffe-Walt So that is Act Two, The Case of the Vanishing Sixth Grader.
第二幕：六年级学生失踪案 查娜·乔夫-沃尔特 这就是第二幕，六年级学生失踪案。
Good morning.
早上好。
Principal Garza Hi.
加尔萨校长您好。
Good morning.
早上好。
I'm waiting in the hallway with Principal Vanessa Garza at the Girls' Athletic Leadership School, GALS.
我和女子运动领导力学校 GALS 的校长瓦妮莎·加尔萨 (Vanessa Garza) 在走廊里等候。
It's a charter school in Los Angeles, one of those California schools where lots of stuff happens outside next to palm trees.
这是洛杉矶的一所特许学校，是加州的一所学校，很多活动都在棕榈树旁进行。
Almost all the students are Latina, some from transnational families that will travel back and forth to family in Mexico or Central America for holidays.
几乎所有的学生都是拉丁裔，其中一些来自跨国家庭，他们会往返于墨西哥或中美洲的家人那里度假。
Sometimes, students who have just moved to LA from those places show up at GALS.
有时，刚从这些地方搬到洛杉矶的学生也会出现在 GALS 上。
But a kid who's been missing for 18 months-- that is not common.
但一个孩子失踪 18 个月了——这种情况并不常见。
Principal Vanessa Garza is eagerly scanning the hallway, looking for Maricela.
校长凡妮莎·加尔萨 (Vanessa Garza) 急切地扫视走廊，寻找马里塞拉 (Maricela)。
Is she actually going to show?
她真的要露面吗？
Fingers crossed.
手指交叉。
It's almost 7:30 right now.
现在已经快7点30分了。
[LAUGHS]
[笑]
We turned to see another staff member hustling down the hall toward us, silently waving her arms and mouthing, she's here!
我们转身看到另一位工作人员沿着大厅向我们奔来，默默地挥舞着手臂，嘴里说，她来了！
She's here?
她来了？
Yay!
耶！
All right.
好的。
The second Maricela walked into the building, I felt like, OK, I'm finally going to get my answer.
当马里塞拉第二次走进大楼时，我感觉，好吧，我终于得到答案了。
Where has she been?
她去哪儿了？
What happened?
发生了什么？
And what's it like to be back here?
回到这里感觉如何？
But she's kind of like a famous person right now, so I had to wait my turn.
但她现在有点像一个名人，所以我不得不等待。
She enters the hallway to the school, and immediately gets sort of trapped between the bathroom, the main office, and her principal, who can barely contain her excitement.
她走进学校的走廊，立刻就被困在浴室、主办公室和校长之间，校长几乎无法抑制自己的兴奋。
Good morning!
早上好！
How are you?
你好吗？
Did you get a chance to get breakfast?
你有机会吃早餐吗？
Maricela's got long, straight, black hair parted in the middle, gray leggings, and a red JanSport backpack.
马里塞拉有一头中分的黑色长直发，穿着灰色紧身裤，背着红色的 JanSport 背包。
She's barely audible, arms at her chest.
她的声音几乎听不见，双臂放在胸前。
She looks like she'd very much like to make herself smaller, less visible, but her overeager host keeps offering her things.
她看起来非常想让自己变得更小、更不引人注目，但她过于热心的主人不断向她提供东西。
Do you want to grab something that you can save for later?
您想买一些可以稍后保存的东西吗？
Because it's just coffee cake.
因为这只是咖啡蛋糕。
You're good?
你很厉害？
OK.
好的。
You're in Ms. Elaina's wellness team, right?
您是伊莱娜女士健康团队的成员，对吗？
All right, so let's walk over there and check in with Ms. Elaina.
好吧，我们去那边看看伊莱娜女士吧。
And then, I'll get you a fresh mask, too.
然后我也会给你买一个新鲜的面膜。
It looks like that one is well-loved, right?
看来这个人很受人喜爱，对吧？
[CHUCKLES]
[笑声]
Maricela does not laugh or react at all.
马里塞拉没有笑，也没有任何反应。
The wellness team-- that's the school's version of homeroom.
健康团队——这就是学校版的班级教室。
It's down the hall and around the corner.
它位于大厅下方，拐角处。
Outside the classroom is Ms. Elaina, a tiny blonde teacher from Wisconsin.
教室外面是伊莱娜女士，她是一位来自威斯康星州的金发小个子老师。
Hi, she says.
嗨，她说。
How are you doing?
你好吗？
Inaudible word.
听不见的词。
Ms. Elaina guides Maricela into the classroom, saying, did you hear the thunderstorm last night?
伊莱娜老师领着马里塞拉走进教室，问道，你昨晚听到雷雨声了吗？
Silent nod.
默默点头。
It was wild, right?
很狂野，对吧？
Nothing.
没有什么。
It's early still.
时间还早呢。
There are only a couple of kids in the classroom.
教室里只有几个孩子。
Maricela sits, and Ms. Elaina pulls up right next to her to quietly explain what the homeroom class will be going over today, before first period starts.
马里塞拉坐下来，伊莱娜女士在她旁边停下来，在第一节课开始之前小声解释今天班主任课将要讲的内容。
She says, just yesterday, they began preparing all the eighth-graders for high school applications.
她说，就在昨天，他们开始为所有八年级学生准备高中申请。
Um, have you been able to talk with your mom at all about the high schools that may be good for you, like ones that are nearby, or ones that you're interested in going to?
嗯，你有没有和你妈妈讨论过可能对你有好处的高中，比如附近的高中，或者你有兴趣去的高中？
No, not yet.
不，还没有。
Ms. Elaina So that would be-- hey, morning.
伊莱娜女士 那么那就是——嘿，早上好。
Kids are trickling in.
孩子们陆续进来。
Maricela's body is slowly forming into a U-shape around the desk.
马里塞拉的身体慢慢地在桌子周围形成一个U形。
Like, maybe she thinks she'll blend in, and no one will notice there's anything here but a desk.
就像，也许她认为她会融入其中，没有人会注意到这里除了一张桌子之外还有任何东西。
Meanwhile, Ms. Elaina opens up a laptop to show Maricela some info on her options for high school.
与此同时，伊莱娜女士打开一台笔记本电脑，向马里塞拉展示一些有关她高中选择的信息。
A religious school, a charter school, an LAUSD neighborhood school, meaning, like, one of the LAUSD schools where you live right around.
一所宗教学校、一所特许学校、一所洛杉矶联合学区邻里学校，意思是，就像您居住的附近的一所洛杉矶联合学区学校。
Nobody acknowledges how strange it is that they're talking about high school, given Maricela has missed most of middle school so far.
没有人承认他们谈论高中是多么奇怪，因为到目前为止，马里塞拉已经错过了大部分中学时光。
The last time she was here, she was 11 years old.
上次她来这里时，她11岁。
She's now 13.
她现在13岁了。
Sixth to eighth grade-- a lot happens between sixth and eighth grade.
六年级到八年级——六年级到八年级之间发生了很多事情。
I keep thinking of the blip, that thing from The Avengers where Thanos snaps his fingers?
我一直在想《复仇者联盟》中灭霸打响指的那个瞬间？
It's like Maricela blipped middle school.
这就像马里塞拉（Maricela）中学时的经历一样。
When she left sixth grade, they were covering early Roman civilization.
当她六年级毕业时，他们正在报道早期罗马文明。
She missed the entire fall of the Roman Empire-- that was seventh grade-- medieval Europe, too, and the Renaissance.
她怀念罗马帝国的整个衰落——那是七年级——还有中世纪的欧洲，还有文艺复兴时期。
She also missed geometry, photosynthesis, chemistry.
她还错过了几何、光合作用和化学。
She missed a year and a half of reading and writing.
她错过了一年半的阅读和写作。
And then, blip, eighth grade.
然后，转眼间，八年级了。
Time to move on.
是时候继续前进了。
Time to fill out a Google form on the transition to high school.
是时候填写一份有关高中过渡的 Google 表格了。
So it's asking for your name.
所以它在询问你的名字。
And then go ahead and scroll down to, which color gown do you want to wear at graduation?
然后继续向下滚动到，您想在毕业时穿哪种颜色的礼服？
That's exciting.
这太令人兴奋了。
You get to vote on your gown already.
你已经可以对你的礼服进行投票了。
Apparently, Maricela said she wanted to speak with me, but that was now hard to imagine.
显然，马里塞拉说她想和我说话，但现在很难想象。
She was barely speaking to anyone.
她几乎不跟任何人说话。
I couldn't imagine her feeling comfortable enough to share anything.
我无法想象她会感到足够舒服来分享任何东西。
Do you want to go into-- there's, like, a little office.
你想进去吗——那里有一个小办公室。
Or do you rather want to sit here?
或者你更想坐在这里？
Go in the little office.
走进小办公室。
Chana Joffe-Walt You wanna go in the little office?
Chana Joffe-Walt 你想去那间小办公室吗？
OK, let me see if Ms. Vanessa can get it for me.
好的，我看看瓦妮莎女士能否帮我拿一下。
Just give me one second.
给我一秒钟。
A short, agonizing walk through the hall, kids watching us, Maricela intently studying the floor tiles.
短暂而痛苦地穿过大厅，孩子们看着我们，马里塞拉专注地研究地砖。
We get to the room.
我们到了房间。
But then, as soon as we were in this room, I'd barely asked a question-- I said, so I talked to your mom, and then Maricela was telling me about her mom.
但是，当我们进入这个房间时，我几乎没有问一个问题——我说，所以我和你妈妈聊了聊，然后马里塞拉告诉我关于她妈妈的事。
She helps people, because she even helped this lady.
她帮助别人，因为她甚至帮助了这位女士。
She was, like, 21, and she had a dog.
她大约 21 岁，养了一只狗。
She was our neighbor, but then she got kicked out because the dog was biting the walls.
她是我们的邻居，但后来因为狗咬墙而被赶了出去。
I'd make them food.
我会给他们做食物。
I'm a really good cook, way better than my sister.
我的厨艺真的很好，比我姐姐好多了。
Did you know I have a sister?
你知道我有一个妹妹吗？
I don't have to go to movement class today, because I have an injury.
我今天不用去运动课了，因为我受伤了。
I have a note.
我有一张纸条。
Do you want to see?
你想看吗？
I'm scared to play soccer now, because we had a leak at the old apartment.
我现在不敢踢足球了，因为我们的旧公寓漏水了。
And I, like, messed up my knee.
而我，就像，弄乱了我的膝盖。
And there's sometimes where my bone just pops out.
有时我的骨头会突然弹出。
I, like, just fall.
我，就像，就这样跌倒了。
My sister doesn't even help me, Maricela says.
“我姐姐甚至不帮助我，”马里塞拉说。
Did you know I have a sister?
你知道我有一个妹妹吗？
Yeah, she's younger.
是的，她还年轻。
A brother, too.
也是一个兄弟。
But the sister's really annoying.
不过姐姐真的很烦人。
When she doesn't get what she wants, she smacks me.
当她得不到她想要的东西时，她就会打我。
And then, when I told my mom, she says, no, I didn't.
然后，当我告诉妈妈时，她说，不，我没有。
And she talks a lot.
而且她话很多。
[CHUCKLES]
[笑声]
Maricela talks a lot about everything.
马里塞拉什么事情都聊得很多。
I had assumed when I saw her in the hallway there was no way I was going to get her to tell me what happened.
当我在走廊里看到她时，我以为我不可能让她告诉我发生了什么事。
Where was she that whole time?
那段时间她在哪里？
Was she just at home?
她刚刚在家吗？
What'd she do?
她做了什么？
And what happened with school?
学校发生了什么？
In sixth grade, I went to this school.
六年级时，我去了这所学校。
And then I missed one year of school, because I had to go to Mexico.
然后我错过了一年的学业，因为我必须去墨西哥。
Why?
为什么？
Maricela Huh?
马里塞拉 嗯？
Because at that time, it was like my grandma and my grandpa were, like, really sick.
因为那时，我的奶奶和爷爷就好像病得很厉害。
And then, being over there, we had to take care of my grandma, my grandpa.
然后，在那里，我们必须照顾我的奶奶、爷爷。
My grandpa's mom, she had COVID in the same house we lived in.
我爷爷的妈妈，她在我们住的同一栋房子里感染了新冠病毒。
She had COVID, and she was sitting down at her bed when she started, like, hallucinating.
她患有新冠病毒，当她开始出现幻觉时，她正坐在床上。
And then, she passed away.
然后，她去世了。
After that, my grandpa and my grandma got sick.
从那以后，我的爷爷和奶奶都病了。
Maricela and her siblings had to isolate in a room, so they wouldn't get sick too, for weeks.
马里塞拉和她的兄弟姐妹必须在一个房间里隔离数周，这样他们就不会生病。
My mom's oldest sister had to, like, leave the food, like, outside our doors.
我妈妈的大姐姐不得不把食物放在我们的门外。
So you were just living in a room with your siblings, not able to leave the room, getting food delivered to the door?
所以你只是和你的兄弟姐妹住在一个房间里，无法离开房间，只能让食物送到门口？
Yeah.
是的。
I don't really like it, 'cause I don't like to be, like, locked up.
我真的不喜欢这样，因为我不喜欢被关起来。
And what did you do all day?
你一整天都做了什么？
Maricela Um, we had to stay in the-- I had a computer over there, a touchscreen computer.
Maricela 嗯，我们必须呆在——我在那里有一台电脑，一台触摸屏电脑。
I would play Roblox on there, or watch videos, or do whatever I wanted to do.
我会在那里玩 Roblox，或者看视频，或者做任何我想做的事情。
And my sister had her iPad.
我姐姐也有她的 iPad。
And I had a TV, and my brother would use the TV.
我有一台电视，我哥哥会用电视。
Screens, a lot of screens.
屏幕，很多屏幕。
Of course.
当然。
What were millions of missing kids up to when school buildings closed?
当学校建筑关闭时，数百万失踪的孩子在做什么？
Playing Roblox.
玩罗布乐思。
I don't know what I expected.
我不知道我期待什么。
But talking to Maricela and hearing her lay out what happened over those 18 months she was absent from school, it did feel like such an interior, specific view.
但与马里塞拉交谈并听她讲述她缺课的 18 个月里发生的事情，确实感觉像是一种内心的、具体的观点。
I'd been thinking about this as a story of a kid who disappeared from school.
我一直认为这是一个从学校失踪的孩子的故事。
But of course, that's not Maricela's story about herself.
但当然，这不是马里塞拉关于她自己的故事。
In Maricela's telling, she didn't disappear, school disappeared.
按照马里塞拉的说法，她并没有消失，只是学校消失了。
So much of our conversation about schools right now, our ideas about what schools need, what needs to happen to help kids catch up, to get back to normal, usually comes from the perspective of teachers, parents, adults.
我们现在关于学校的大部分讨论，我们关于学校需要什么、需要做什么来帮助孩子们赶上、恢复正常的想法，通常来自老师、家长和成年人的角度。
I want you to hear Maricela's version of this, to hear what it's been like for one of the millions of kids during the pandemic who just stopped attending school-- all the details that matter to her, the stuff that is at eye-level to a kid, stuff adults don't always think to focus on.
我想让你们听听马里塞拉的说法，听听在大流行期间数百万刚刚停止上学的孩子中的一个的感受——所有对她来说重要的细节，那些对孩子来说是平视的东西，那些成年人并不总是认为要关注的东西。
It was not a blip for Maricela, it was epic.
对于马里塞拉来说，这不是昙花一现，而是史诗般的。
A lot happened.
发生了很多事情。
First, her mom lost her job.
首先，她妈妈失业了。
Then, her grandparents got sick.
后来，她的爷爷奶奶生病了。
And while they were in Mexico, they lost their apartment in Los Angeles.
当他们在墨西哥时，他们失去了在洛杉矶的公寓。
The manager said they'd abandoned it.
经理说他们已经放弃了。
When they came back to Los Angeles, Maricela's aunt said they could stay with her.
当他们回到洛杉矶时，马里塞拉的阿姨说他们可以和她住在一起。
We all had our schedules, like, who does this, who does that.
我们都有自己的日程安排，比如谁做这个，谁做那个。
For example, like, we would wake up, and we would sleep in the living room.
例如，我们会醒来，然后在客厅睡觉。
We would pick up, we would vacuum the whole living room.
我们会捡起来，用吸尘器清理整个客厅。
We would have to wash the dishes, cook, and then wash those dishes, and broom the kitchen, clean the table after we're done eating, and then clean the bathroom, if it's dirty.
我们必须洗碗，做饭，然后洗碗，打扫厨房，吃完饭后擦桌子，然后打扫浴室（如果浴室脏了）。
Her cousins' kids, though, her aunt's kids-- Maricela says they hardly did anything.
不过，她表兄弟的孩子、她姨妈的孩子——马里塞拉说他们几乎什么也没做。
She's the oldest in her family.
她是家里最年长的。
It's her and a younger brother and sister.
这是她和一个弟弟妹妹。
So a lot of the chores fell to her.
于是，很多家务事就落到了她的身上。
It wasn't fair.
这不公平。
And I couldn't tell them anything, because they're snitches.
我不能告诉他们任何事情，因为他们是告密者。
And they told their parents everything about what they do.
他们告诉父母他们所做的一切。
So I would just ignore it.
所以我会忽略它。
It got tense in the apartment.
公寓里气氛变得紧张起来。
And sometime in the middle of what would have been Maricela's seventh-grade school year, her family moved into their truck.
在马里塞拉七年级学年中期的某个时候，她的家人搬进了他们的卡车。
They'd drive to the park she always played at and grab a spot every night.
他们每天晚上都会开车去她经常去的公园，抢个位置。
In the daytime, they had a routine.
白天，他们有规律的生活。
Her younger brother and sister would sleep in the back.
她的弟弟和妹妹睡在后面。
They would wake up, like, around 9:00.
他们会在 9:00 左右醒来。
We would go get breakfast while they were sleeping.
我们会趁他们睡觉的时候去吃早餐。
We would wake-- we would go park at the park again, and then they would wake up.
我们会醒来——我们会再次去公园停车，然后他们就会醒来。
We would fix the seats, and then they would sit down and eat breakfast.
我们会安排座位，然后他们坐下来吃早餐。
And then, what would happen?
然后，会发生什么呢？
What would you do the rest of the day?
这一天剩下的时间你会做什么？
And then, we would go to my mom's-- to my cousin's house, and we would shower there.
然后，我们会去我妈妈家——我表弟家，我们会在那里洗澡。
We had bathrooms at the park.
我们在公园里有浴室。
And to brush our teeth, we'd just brush them like-- we would go to the bathroom, take a water bottle, toothpaste, and my toothbrush, and we would brush them in there.
为了刷牙，我们就这样刷牙——我们会去卫生间，拿一个水瓶、牙膏和我的牙刷，然后在那里刷牙。
I talked to Maricela's mom.
我和马里塞拉的妈妈谈过。
She confirmed the basics.
她确认了基本情况。
She lost her job when the pandemic hit, the apartment.
当大流行来袭时，她失去了工作，也就是公寓。
They went to Mexico to care for her folks.
他们去墨西哥照顾她的家人。
But she didn't want to do an interview or get into any of this in detail.
但她不想接受采访，也不想详细讨论这一切。
So I don't know much about where her head was at or what shaped all the different choices she had to make during that time.
所以我不太了解她的想法，也不知道是什么塑造了她在那段时间必须做出的所有不同选择。
She wanted to let Maricela share her experience.
她想让玛丽塞拉分享她的经历。
When they were staying in the truck, Maricela's mom called LA Family Housing.
当他们住在卡车里时，马里塞拉的妈妈给洛杉矶家庭住房局打电话。
A caseworker got them a place in a hotel.
一名社会工作者为他们在一家酒店找到了一个住处。
That's where they're living now.
那就是他们现在住的地方。
And then, the caseworker asked where Maricela wanted to register for school.
然后，社会工作者询问马里塞拉想在哪里注册学校。
I don't know if she asked or if she told her she had to.
我不知道她是否要求这样做，或者她是否告诉她必须这样做。
GALS is 40 minutes, in traffic, from the hotel.
GALS 距离酒店 40 分钟路程（交通堵塞）。
Maybe somewhere closer, she asked?
也许在更近的地方，她问？
No, Maricela said.
不，马里塞拉说。
She'd prefer to go back to the school she knows.
她更愿意回到她熟悉的学校。
It's funny, when you think about it, that very basic idea that school is where you go as a kid, the thing the rest of life revolves around, it took centuries to establish.
有趣的是，当你想到这一点时，这个非常基本的想法是，学校是你小时候去的地方，是你余生围绕的事情，这个想法花了几个世纪的时间才建立起来。
It took laws, and social movements, and fiery speeches to establish a sprawling compulsory public education system.
经过法律、社会运动和激烈的演讲，才建立了庞大的义务公共教育体系。
But it only took a few months-- weeks, even, with Maricela-- for that idea to be completely undone.
但只用了几个月——对于马里塞拉来说甚至是几周——这个想法就被彻底推翻了。
And when it was, when school disappeared from Maricela's life, all the other things-- more immediate, huge dramas-- came in and filled the space.
当学校从马里塞拉的生活中消失时，所有其他的事情——更直接的、巨大的戏剧——进来并填补了这个空间。
Her mom lost her job.
她妈妈失业了。
They lived in a truck.
他们住在一辆卡车里。
She sold candy in the park.
她在公园里卖糖果。
Her cousins were snitches.
她的表兄弟都是告密者。
Her family died.
她的家人都死了。
She can talk about all of that for hours.
她可以谈论所有这些几个小时。
But when I asked Maricela, what about school, she just sort of drifts to some other topic.
但当我问马里塞拉，学校怎么样时，她只是转移到了其他话题。
Not that she doesn't want to talk about it, it almost felt like she didn't remember when the pandemic closed schools.
并不是她不想谈论这件事，而是她几乎感觉自己不记得大流行病是什么时候关闭了学校。
It didn't register.
它没有注册。
What did you do in sixth grade when schools closed?
六年级时学校停课时你在做什么？
Um, in sixth grade, when school closed, I didn't finish sixth grade.
嗯，六年级的时候，学校停课时，我没有读完六年级。
Why?
为什么？
I would ask, over and over.
我会一遍又一遍地问。
They closed schools, she'd say.
她会说，他们关闭了学校。
But what about online school?
但是在线学校呢？
No. Why?
不，为什么？
I don't know.
我不知道。
It was-- because I wasn't in school at that time.
这是因为我当时不在学校。
I don't know.
我不知道。
Chana Joffe-Walt Did you want to be in school?
Chana Joffe-Walt 你想上学吗？
No. Because I knew that I couldn't hang out with Valeria.
不，因为我知道我不能和瓦莱里娅一起出去玩。
Valeria.
瓦莱里娅.
Valeria was Maricela's best friend at school.
瓦莱里娅是马里塞拉在学校最好的朋友。
She lived in her building.
她住在她的大楼里。
The vague fog Maricela has when I ask her about school evaporated instantly when the conversation turned to Valeria in sixth grade.
当我向玛丽塞拉询问有关学校的事情时，当话题转向六年级的瓦莱里娅时，她心中的模糊迷雾立即消失了。
No, I met her-- OK, so when she came from Mexico, she would, like, go to my house a lot.
不，我遇见了她——好吧，所以当她从墨西哥来时，她会经常去我家。
We lived in the same building, and she would go, like, at 6:00 in the morning, and we would come on our way to school together.
我们住在同一栋楼里，她会在早上 6:00 左右去，然后我们一起上学。
And we were, like, really close friends that-- this one time, she was knocking at my door, and I opened it, and then we made breakfast together, and then we served--
我们是非常亲密的朋友——这一次，她敲我的门，我打开门，然后我们一起做早餐，然后我们服务——
Maricela became so specific when she talked about Valeria, in that kid way where she's living it in real time, where every detail of a story is shared and assigned exactly equal weight.
马里塞拉（Maricela）在谈论瓦莱里娅（Valeria）时变得如此具体，以那种孩子般的方式实时生活，故事的每个细节都被分享并分配了完全相同的权重。
She knocked.
她敲门。
I opened the door.
我打开门。
We made breakfast.
我们做了早餐。
Here's who came.
这就是来的人。
Here's where we sat.
这是我们坐的地方。
Here's what we ate.
这是我们吃的。
--like a tortilla.
——像玉米饼一样。
And then you crack an egg on top.
然后你在上面打一个鸡蛋。
And then, we sliced, like, tomatoes and onions, and we put it on the top.
然后，我们把西红柿和洋葱切成薄片，然后把它放在上面。
She went to her house, and she got clothes.
她回到家，拿了衣服。
And she showered in my mom's bathroom while I showered in mine.
她在我妈妈的浴室洗澡，而我在我的浴室洗澡。
And then--
然后——
They went out walking, and they ran into Maricela's aunt, who gave her some cash.
他们出去散步，遇到了马里塞拉的阿姨，她给了她一些现金。
They went to the store.
他们去了商店。
Maricela snuck to the side and bought something special.
马里塞拉溜到一边买了一些特别的东西。
They were, like, little silver hearts that come apart, and they said, "best friends."
他们就像一颗颗分开的小银心，他们说，“最好的朋友”。
Like one of those best-friend hearts, broken heart?
就像一颗最好朋友的心，破碎的心？
Yeah, but it was like a keychain thing, and we both had it, like, on our backpack.
是的，但它就像一个钥匙扣一样的东西，我们都把它放在我们的背包上。
And when we came to the school both together, we were, like, so close.
当我们一起来到学校时，我们感觉非常亲密。
And we would hang out with the other girls, but there was, like, always a space with the other girls.
我们会和其他女孩一起出去玩，但总是有一个和其他女孩在一起的空间。
But me and her were, like, always next to each other.
但我和她总是在一起。
We were, like, really best friends.
我们真的是最好的朋友。
And then, we would go to the bathroom, and she would wait for me, like, outside the stall.
然后，我们会去洗手间，她会在隔间外面等我。
And then she would go in, and I would wait for her.
然后她就进去了，我就等她。
March 2020, schools closed and upended the lives of millions of families.
2020 年 3 月，学校关闭，数百万家庭的生活发生了翻天覆地的变化。
But again, that's not what Maricela remembers of this time.
但这一次，马里塞拉的记忆中却不再是这样。
March 2020, the day before Maricela went to Mexico, what she remembers is that she had a picnic with Valeria at the Valley Plaza Park.
2020年3月，马里塞拉去墨西哥的前一天，她记得和瓦莱里娅在山谷广场公园野餐。
Their families came.
他们的家人来了。
They ate Pollo Loco.
他们吃了波罗疯子。
That day, it was her birthday.
那天，是她的生日。
And I had to tell her that we were leaving.
我不得不告诉她我们要走了。
But her brother-- her brother knew before her, but we were supposed to surprise her.
但她的哥哥——她的哥哥比她早知道，但我们应该给她一个惊喜。
But when we were singing Happy Birthday, he told her.
但当我们唱生日快乐歌时，他告诉了她。
And then her eyes got kind of watery.
然后她的眼睛就有点湿润了。
What about you?
你呢？
Maricela I wanted to cry.
马里塞拉 我想哭。
Maricela told Valeria she'd see her soon, but she never did.
马里塞拉告诉瓦莱里娅她很快就会见到她，但她从未这样做。
Valeria's family had been trying to make it work in LA, but struggled in those early months of the pandemic, and decided to move back to Ciudad Juarez.
瓦莱里娅的家人一直试图在洛杉矶维持生活，但在疫情爆发的最初几个月里陷入困境，并决定搬回华雷斯城。
That was the last time they saw each other.
那是他们最后一次见面。
How does it feel to walk through the halls now?
现在走过大厅感觉如何？
OK.
好的。
Chana Joffe-Walt Knowing what the last year and a half was for Maricela, that it was not a blip, but a long time for a 12-year-old, full of huge experiences, I consider how brave it is what she's doing-- returning to this place that disappeared from her life, coming back after losing family members, her apartment, moving between countries, returning without knowing anything about what she's missed and without Valeria.
查娜·乔菲-沃尔特（Chana Joffe-Walt）知道过去一年半对马里塞拉来说意味着什么，这不是昙花一现，而是对一个 12 岁的孩子来说很长一段时间，充满了巨大的经历，我想她正在做的事情是多么勇敢——回到这个从她生活中消失的地方，在失去家人、她的公寓后回来，在不同国家之间搬家，在不知道自己错过了什么的情况下回来，也没有瓦莱里娅。
I was nervous, scared.
我很紧张，很害怕。
I was like nervous, like, who I will see here.
我很紧张，我会在这里见到谁。
I go to the school, and then I leave.
我去学校，然后离开。
And then I come back, and they just stare at you the whole time.
然后我回来，他们就一直盯着你看。
And I get nervous when they stare at me.
当他们盯着我看时我会感到紧张。
It's, like, weird.
这很奇怪。
Chana Joffe-Walt What does it feel like?
查纳·乔夫-沃尔特 感觉如何？
It feels like a bunch of cameras watching me.
感觉就像有一堆摄像机在注视着我。
It does kind of seem like that.
看起来确实是这样。
I watch as Maricela moves through the rest of her school day.
我看着马里塞拉度过余下的上学时间。
She gets a lot of stares.
她受到很多人的注视。
She looks very nervous and very lost.
她看起来很紧张，也很失落。
People were accusing Hamilton of being what's called a monarchist.
人们指责汉密尔顿是所谓的君主主义者。
Remember King George III?
还记得乔治三世国王吗？
In history class, the teacher does a lot of, remember when we learned about blah, blah, blah?
在历史课上，老师做了很多，还记得我们学过blah，blah，blah吗？
Like, who can tell me what we know about the monarchy?
比如，谁能告诉我我们对君主制了解多少？
Who remembers?
谁还记得？
The elites-- what do we mean by elites?
精英——我们所说的精英是什么意思？
You guys remember?
你们还记得吗？
Maricela, of course, does not remember.
马里塞拉当然不记得了。
OK, so we're going to do quite a bit of reading today.
好的，今天我们要读很多书。
All right.
好的。
109, Alabama, is everybody there?
109，阿拉巴马州，大家都在吗？
In English class, they read a novel written in verse, and then they have to write a response on an online platform.
在英语课上，他们读了一本诗体小说，然后他们必须在在线平台上写下回应。
Maricela can't figure out how to submit her response.
马里塞拉不知道如何提交她的回复。
She's frustrated, but does not ask for help, does not know about the monarchy.
她很沮丧，但没有寻求帮助，也不了解君主制。
She does not know how to use the online learning platform, and she does not speak to anyone.
她不知道如何使用在线学习平台，也不和任何人说话。
She's here.
她在这里。
She's finally in the building, but she's still really far away.
她终于到了大楼里，但距离还很远。
I felt that deeply, watching her in math.
看着她做数学，我有很深的感受。
They're playing a game.
他们正在玩游戏。
Everyone has to get up and split it into two groups, but Maricela doesn't move.
每个人都必须站起来，分成两组，但马里塞拉没有动。
She's sitting in the back row, and she stays completely still, backpack propped on her desk, looking panicked as the other kids get up and sort themselves into teams.
她坐在后排，一动不动，背包放在桌子上，当其他孩子站起来并分成小组时，她看起来很惊慌。
She's wearing a mic clipped to her shirt.
她的衬衫上夹着一个麦克风。
She's too far from anyone else for them to hear what she's saying, but I can.
她离其他人太远，他们听不到她在说什么，但我可以。
[GROANS] My stomach hurts.
[呻吟]我肚子疼。
Chana Joffe-Walt The teacher notices that Maricela hasn't moved.
Chana Joffe-Walt 老师注意到 Maricela 没有动。
And for the first time in hours, someone addresses her directly, tells her, you too.
几个小时以来，第一次有人直接向她讲话，告诉她，你也是。
Come on.
快点。
You, too, pick a group.
你也选一个组吧。
This one or that one?
这个还是那个？
What if I can't play?
如果我不能玩怎么办？
Teacher 3 You can play.
老师3你可以玩。
It's just math.
这只是数学。
It's just math, the teacher says.
老师说，这只是数学。
But it is clearly not just math to Maricela.
但对于马里塞拉来说，这显然不仅仅是数学。
I keep waiting for someone to talk to her, to ask her something.
我一直在等待有人和她说话，问她一些事情。
What's going on with you?
你怎么了？
Where were you?
当时你在哪里？
What do you need?
你需要什么？
But school, day-to-day school, is not really set up for that.
但学校，日常学校，并不是真正为此而设立的。
Her teachers will assess where Maricela is academically.
她的老师将评估马里塞拉的学业成绩。
And there's an aide in classes that could help her one-on-one, sometimes.
有时，课堂上会有一位助手可以一对一地帮助她。
But mostly, school is like this.
但大多数情况下，学校就是这样。
This interaction with the math teacher, it lasts 11 seconds.
这次和数学老师的互动，持续了11秒。
She locks her eyes on Maricela, Maricela shakes her head.
她盯着马里塞拉，马里塞拉摇摇头。
And then another kid jumps in front of the teacher, and the room of 25 people moves forward.
然后另一个孩子跳到老师面前，25个人的房间向前移动。
So I'm going to give you a question.
所以我要问你一个问题。
Whoever answers the question first gets to come up here and write there, either their circle or their X.
谁先回答问题就可以到这里写下，要么是他们的圈子，要么是他们的 X。
OK?
可以吗？
School is a machine that is designed to move forward.
学校是一台不断前进的机器。
Kids move class-to-class, grade-to-grade.
孩子们从一个班级转到另一个班级，从一个年级转到另一个年级。
The machine does not stop.
机器不会停止。
It's not designed to go back in time, to meet Maricela where she's at right now, which is at the back of the classroom, hiding behind a backpack, as her classmates enthusiastically compete to solve a math equation.
它并不是为了回到过去，去见玛丽塞拉现在所在的地方，她在教室的后面，躲在背包后面，而她的同学们正在热情地竞争解决数学方程。
Out of all the awkward moments I saw that day, this one was the hardest to watch, because you can feel the conveyor belt of school moving forward.
在那天我看到的所有尴尬时刻中，这一时刻是最难看的，因为你可以感觉到学校的传送带向前移动。
I could see Maricela's panic that she could not figure out how to jump on.
我可以看出马里塞拉的惊慌，因为她不知道如何跳下去。
And then, I see her try.
然后，我看到她尝试了。
Right before lunch, Maricela's standing in the hallway nervously digging through her backpack, other kids streaming past her to the lunch tables outside.
午餐前，马里塞拉站在走廊里，紧张地翻着背包，其他孩子从她身边走过，来到外面的午餐桌上。
And then, all of a sudden, she calls out to another kid.
然后，突然，她喊另一个孩子。
Arecilli, mira.
阿雷西利，米拉。
Chana Joffe-Walt She says, Arecilli, look, and opens up her bag.
Chana Joffe-Walt 她说，阿雷西利，看，然后打开她的包。
Arecilli is a tall, quiet girl in pink, who's been moving through the whole day in a pack of three-- three girls who, I'm told, have all recently arrived at the school from Mexico.
阿雷西利是一个身材高大、安静的粉红色女孩，她一整天都在三个人的陪伴下度过——据我所知，这三个女孩都是最近从墨西哥来到学校的。
Maricela starts showing Arecilli all the candy, and snacks, and lotion in her backpack.
马里塞拉开始向阿雷西利展示她背包里的所有糖果、零食和乳液。
Oh, look, and I have these.
哦，看，我有这些。
And I have-- look, and I have these.
我有——看，我有这些。
I have Bath and Body Works, too.
我也有沐浴和身体工作。
[LAUGHS]
[笑]
Now, the three girls are all leaning in over her backpack, giggling and slowly moving through the hall toward lunch up ahead of me.
现在，三个女孩都靠在背包上，咯咯笑着，慢慢地穿过大厅，走向我面前的午餐。
And a sixth-grader quickly replaces Maricela at my side, tells me she's been on TV, so I might recognize her.
一名六年级学生很快取代了我身边的马里塞拉，告诉我她上过电视，所以我可能会认出她。
Have you seen a commercial where a dad's fixing a purple Jeep with his daughter?
您是否看过父亲与女儿一起修理紫色吉普车的广告？
You're the daughter?
你是女儿？
Student Yeah.
学生 是啊。
And do you know the show, Henry Danger?
你知道这部剧吗，亨利·危险？
OK.
好的。
[LAUGHS]
[笑]
After disappointing this child star, I spot Maricela outside.
在让这位童星失望之后，我在外面看到了马里塞拉。
She's in line for lunch, and she's with Arecilli and her friends.
她正在排队吃午餐，她和阿雷西利以及她的朋友们在一起。
They're a nervous-looking pack, looking around like something bad could happen, not really talking.
他们看起来很紧张，环顾四周，好像有什么不好的事情要发生一样，但并不真正说话。
But they're a pack.
但他们是一伙的。
Maricela seems OK for the first time in the whole day, actually, excited.
马里塞拉一整天以来第一次看起来没问题，事实上，很兴奋。
Hanging out with Arecilli-- she's like Valeria.
和阿雷西利一起出去玩——她就像瓦莱里娅。
Really?
真的吗？
Maricela Mm-hmm.
马里塞拉 嗯嗯。
They speak the same.
他们说的是一样的。
Like, the way that they speak sounds the same?
比如，他们说话的方式听起来一样吗？
Really?
真的吗？
It seems to me like an effort to jump back on the conveyor belt, that Maricela's trying to replicate what she had here before that mattered to her, trying to make a new school friend, who apparently is not dissimilar to her old school friend.
在我看来，这就像是一种重新回到传送带上的努力，马里塞拉试图复制她之前在这里所经历的对她来说很重要的事情，试图结交一个新的学校朋友，他显然与她的老学校朋友没有什么不同。
Arecilli looks like her?
阿瑞西莉长得像她吗？
Maricela Mm-hmm.
马里塞拉 嗯嗯。
It was the tall, skinny girl that was with me right now.
和我在一起的正是那个又高又瘦的女孩。
Do you think you guys will become as close?
你认为你们会变得那么亲密吗？
Mm, I don't know, because, we're already in eighth grade.
嗯，我不知道，因为，我们已经上八年级了。
And then, when she leaves, I'm going to feel alone.
然后，当她离开时，我会感到孤独。
Mm.
毫米。
Chana Joffe-Walt So you don't want to become close to her because, after eighth grade, you might not be together anymore?
Chana Joffe-Walt 那么你不想和她走得太近，因为八年级之后，你们可能就不再在一起了？
Mm-hmm.
嗯嗯。
That's why.
这就是原因。
Chana Joffe-Walt I get it.
查纳·乔夫-沃尔特 我明白了。
She can't go back.
她不能回去。
They can't be as close, because Maricela missed most of middle school.
他们不可能那么亲密，因为马里塞拉错过了大部分中学时光。
And middle school is almost over.
而中学也快结束了。
She can't go back to sixth-grade math, just like she can't go back to her apartment.
她无法回到六年级数学，就像她无法回到自己的公寓一样。
And she definitely can't go back to Valeria.
而她绝对不能回到瓦莱里娅身边。
Everything is moving forward without her.
没有她，一切都在向前发展。
Maricela watches Valeria online now, becoming a teenager without her.
马里塞拉现在在线观看瓦莱里娅，成为一个没有她的青少年。
I see her, like-- I see her stories, and she looks, like, way different.
我看到她，就像——我看到她的故事，她看起来，很不一样。
Really?
真的吗？
Maricela Like, she had, like, a little bit of freckles here, and they disappeared.
马里塞拉 就像，她这里有一点雀斑，然后它们就消失了。
And she had, like-- she put a nose piercing on.
她好像——她打了一个鼻子穿孔。
She's gonna-- I think she's gonna turn, like, 15.
她会——我想她会 15 岁左右。
What does it feel like to see her looking different?
看到她看起来不一样是什么感觉？
Um, it feels weird.
嗯，感觉很奇怪。
She, like, dresses different.
她，就像，穿着不同。
She used to wear, like, long sleeves and jeans.
她过去常常穿长袖和牛仔裤。
And now she wears, like, really ripped jeans.
现在她穿的是破洞牛仔裤。
And she wears, like, cropped tops now.
她现在穿的是短款上衣。
Actually, it's like, I miss her.
事实上，就像是，我想念她。
I don't know how schools are going to fit in kids like Maricela.
我不知道学校如何适应像马里塞拉这样的孩子。
There are so many of them-- not just the millions of kids who have become chronically absent or disappeared entirely, but the tens of millions of kids who fell behind in math and reading, the millions of kids suffering from anxiety, trauma, grief.
其中有很多孩子——不仅是数百万长期缺勤或完全消失的孩子，还有数千万在数学和阅读方面落后的孩子，以及数百万遭受焦虑、创伤和悲伤之苦的孩子。
What happens if they don't fit back in?
如果他们不适应回来会发生什么？
Maricela has been coming to school for six months now, but she doesn't always come.
马里塞拉已经来学校六个月了，但她并不总是来。
Her attendance is pretty spotty.
她的出席率参差不齐。
Principal Vanessa Garza tells me Maricela is now three grades behind, but she will be promoted to ninth grade.
校长凡妮莎·加尔萨 (Vanessa Garza) 告诉我，马里塞拉 (Maricela) 现在落后三个年级，但她将升入九年级。
She won't be able to walk at graduation because of the attendance issues, but Ms. Vanessa thinks the shame of being held back would be the end of school for Maricela.
由于出勤问题，她将无法在毕业典礼上步行，但瓦妮莎女士认为，被阻止的耻辱将意味着马里塞拉的学业结束。
And she has a better shot of finishing high school, if she can start earning credits toward graduation now.
如果她现在就可以开始获得毕业学分，那么她完成高中学业的机会就更大。
She'll keep moving forward.
她会继续前进。
I asked Maricela if she likes being back in school.
我问马里塞拉是否喜欢回到学校。
She said, no, but she's going to keep trying.
她说不会，但她会继续努力。
Credits Chana Joffe-Walt Our program was produced today by me and Bim Adewunmi and edited by Laura Starecheski.
致谢 Chana Joffe-Walt 今天我们的节目由我和 Bim Adewunmi 制作，并由 Laura Starecheski 编辑。
The people who put this show together include Elna Baker, Ben Calhoun, Michael Comite, Andrea Lopez Cruzado, Ira Glass, Seth Lind, Michelle Navarro, Tobin Low, Stowe Nelson, Katherine Rae Mondo, Kyla Jones, Nadia Reiman, Christopher Swetala, and Matt Tierney.
制作这部剧的人员包括 Elna Baker、Ben Calhoun、Michael Comite、Andrea Lopez Cruzado、Ira Glass、Seth Lind、Michelle Navarro、Tobin Low、Stowe Nelson、Katherine Rae Mondo、Kyla Jones、Nadia Reiman、Christopher Swetala 和 Matt Tierney。
Our managing editor is Sarah Abdurrahman; senior editor, David Kestenbaum; executive editor, Emanuele Berry.
我们的总编辑是 Sarah Abdurrahman；高级编辑 David Kestenbaum；执行主编，埃马努埃莱·贝里。
Our consulting editor on today's episode is Rachel Lissy.
我们今天这一集的顾问编辑是 Rachel Lissy。
Special thanks to Jennifer Kottke, Jessica Cerruti, Jenn Gurrera, Koby Levin, and Chalkbeat, Nina Perez at MomsRising, Joshua Kay, Rebecca Vitali-DeCola, Michael K.
特别感谢 MomsRising 的 Jennifer Kottke、Jessica Cerruti、Jenn Gurrera、Koby Levin 和 Chalkbeat、Nina Perez、Joshua Kay、Rebecca Vitali-DeCola、Michael K.
Barbour, Selena Seay-Reynolds.
巴伯，赛琳娜·西雷诺兹。
And many thanks to all the educators and students who spoke with me, including David Eddy, Olivia Defalco, Jaden Varghese, Linda Rost, Twainna Calhoun, Liz Giacovelli, Crystal Thorpe, Regina Grossman, Teresa Hill, and everyone at GALS, especially Principal Vanessa Garza, and Ms. Mayra Olivarez.
非常感谢所有与我交谈的教育工作者和学生，包括 David Eddy、Olivia Defalco、Jaden Varghese、Linda Rost、Twainna Calhoun、Liz Giacovelli、Crystal Thorpe、Regina Grossman、Teresa Hill 以及 GALS 的所有人，特别是校长 Vanessa Garza 和 Mayra Olivarez 女士。
Our website is ThisAmericanLife.org, where you can stream our archive of over 700 episodes for absolutely free.
我们的网站是 ThisAmericanLife.org，您可以在这里免费观看我们的 700 多集档案。
This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.
《美国生活》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。
Thanks, as always, to my boss, Ira Glass.
一如既往地感谢我的老板艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass)。
He's out this week, because he's trying to branch out from radio and make it onto the US gymnastics team, 2024 Olympics.
他本周将缺席比赛，因为他正试图从广播领域拓展业务，进入美国体操队参加 2024 年奥运会。
But I'm a little worried he's making a lot of enemies at the tryouts.
但我有点担心他在选拔赛上树敌很多。
[LAUGHS] Oh, you're doing cartwheels?
[笑]哦，你在做侧手翻吗？
OK.
好的。
I'm Chana Joffe-Walt.
我是查娜·乔夫-沃尔特。
Ira will be back next week with more stories of This American Life.
艾拉将于下周带着更多《美国生活》的故事回来。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。