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00:00 00:00 文字记录 分享此 美国生活 生活伙伴 如何收听 剧集 推荐 关于 概述 员工公告 奖学金 工作 音乐 在路上制作电台 常见问题解答 提交 商品 联系我们 我们的其他节目 商品 关注我们 生活伙伴 订阅我们的时事通讯 整集 切换音频和文字记录同步 文字记录 | 内容第 76 集 | 2005 年 12 月 9 日 76：暴民注意：《This American Life》是为耳朵而制作的，旨在让人们听到。
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Prologue Ira Glass Back when he was active in the gang, on the street every day, Danny Toro had a routine.
序言 艾拉·格拉斯 当丹尼·托罗在帮派中活跃时，每天都在街上，丹尼·托罗有自己的一套。
Come home from school at 3:00, help his mom out with anything she needed help with, and then, before he went out with his boys, he would sit down and watch a movie.
3:00 放学回家，帮助妈妈解决任何需要帮助的事情，然后，在和孩子们出去之前，他会坐下来看电影。
For a while, it was Scarface, the 1983 Al Pacino movie about a Cuban gangster who's so tough, he doesn't betray his friends even when a guy is about to hack him up with a chainsaw.
有一段时间，是阿尔·帕西诺 1983 年的电影《疤面煞星》，讲述了一个古巴黑帮的故事，他非常强硬，即使有人要用电锯砍死他，他也不会背叛他的朋友。
He's fearless.
他无所畏惧。
He's lethal.
他是致命的。
And he wants it all.
他想要这一切。
That was like a motivation movie there.
这就像一部励志电影。
It got the blood pumping and the adrenaline going.
它让血液泵动，肾上腺素分泌。
I watch it right before I come out, so I'm already there.
我在出来之前就看了它，所以我已经在那里了。
I'm in that point.
我就在那个点上。
I go pick up a couple of my friends.
我去接我的几个朋友。
Pumped up.
充满了活力。
Danny Toro Yeah.
丹尼·托罗 是的。
Go out like a gangster.
像个流氓一样出去。
If a movie was as good as I wanted it to be, I'll watch it once a day for months at a time.
如果一部电影像我想要的那样好，我会每天看一次，连续几个月。
Scarface, I watched it over and over and over.
疤面煞星，我看了一遍又一遍。
And the times when I didn't have time to watch the whole movie, I'd just watch the first part or the second part, depending on how I felt, what kind of stage of mind I wanted to be in.
当我没有时间看整部电影的时候，我就看第一部分或第二部分，这取决于我的感受，我想处于什么样的心态。
The movie The Godfather begins with the sentence, "I believe in America." And I think any gangster's life is a particularly mesmerizing parable of America, because it contains all the things that we're not supposed to want, easy money, drugs, alcohol, glamorous, feral sex, plus all those values that we think of as core American values, loyalty to friends and family, ambition, independence, self-motivation, not taking no for an answer.
电影《教父》开头的那句话是“我相信美国”。我认为任何一个黑帮的生活都是一个特别令人着迷的美国寓言，因为它包含了我们不想要的所有东西，轻松赚钱、毒品、酒精、迷人、野性，再加上所有我们认为是美国核心价值观的价值观，对朋友和家人的忠诚、野心、独立、自我激励、不接受拒绝。
So it's easy to see why civilians like you and me go to gangster movies.
所以很容易理解为什么像你我这样的平民会去看黑帮电影。
But I was curious what gangsters actually get out of them.
但我很好奇黑帮到底能从他们身上得到什么。
For 10 years, Danny Toro was active in a Chicago street gang.
十年来，丹尼·托罗一直活跃在芝加哥街头帮派中。
He says that the old-school gangster films, like The Godfather movies, they just didn't do it for him.
他说，老派的黑帮电影，比如《教父》电影，只是不适合他。
I watched them once or twice.
我看了他们一两次。
They were all right, but it wasn't what I was looking for.
他们都很好，但这不是我想要的。
I was looking for how I live.
我一直在寻找我的生活方式。
The way I used to live while I was gang banging was very different.
我以前在群交时的生活方式是非常不同的。
It wasn't so organized.
事情不是那么有组织。
It wasn't so where I kiss you on the cheek, and then you're dying.
不是这样的，我亲吻了你的脸颊，然后你就死了。
No, it wasn't like that.
不，不是那样的。
Things were more said up front.
事情前面已经说得更多了。
So it was like I was looking to movies more to where I could relate the way my lifestyle was like.
所以就像我更多地看电影一样，在那里我可以联系到我的生活方式。
Scarface was right there in your face.
疤面煞星就在你脸上。
He didn't care who you were, just like that one scene, he says, "Only thing as I got is my word and my balls.
他不在乎你是谁，就像那个场景一样，他说：“我唯一得到的就是我的诺言和我的球。
And I don't break 'em for nobody." And it's kind of true.
我不会为了任何人而破坏它们。”这确实是真的。
Because out here, you don't got much.
因为在这里，你得到的东西并不多。
And if you break that, what do you got?
如果你打破了它，你会得到什么？
Nothing.
没有什么。
Danny's favorite film was this movie about Lucky Luciano.
丹尼最喜欢的电影是这部关于幸运卢西亚诺的电影。
His favorite scenes were the ones where guys backed each other up in a fight not because they thought they'd get anything out of backing each other up, but because it was the right thing to do.
他最喜欢的场景是人们在打斗中互相支持的场景，不是因为他们认为互相支持能得到任何好处，而是因为这是正确的事情。
That's what I wanted to see out here.
这就是我想在这里看到的。
Don't do something to get something back.
不要为了得到回报而做某事。
Do it because you became a part of it, and that's part of you, so contribute to it.
这样做是因为你成为了它的一部分，而那也是你的一部分，所以要为它做出贡献。
He especially liked Lucky, because of all the movie gangsters, Lucky seemed to have the best judgment when it came to people.
他特别喜欢Lucky，因为在所有的电影黑帮中，Lucky对人的判断力似乎是最好的。
He knew how to take care of things.
他知道如何处理事情。
He knew how to punish without overpunishing.
他知道如何惩罚而又不过分惩罚。
He knew how to correct people in a polite way.
他知道如何以礼貌的方式纠正别人。
Danny even picked up a move or two from Lucky.
丹尼甚至还从幸运儿那里学了一两招。
One time I had sat down with the guys kind of like he used to do, sit there and talk with each other.
有一次，我和这些人坐在一起，就像他以前那样，坐在那里互相交谈。
Like, when Lucky's wife got killed, they all got together.
就像，当Lucky的妻子被杀时，他们都聚在一起。
They were sympathizing, just like when I had two guys, and they were brothers, and one of the brothers died.
他们很有同情心，就像我有两个人时一样，他们是兄弟，其中一个兄弟死了。
And I was there trying to comfort and whatnot.
我在那里试图安慰什么之类的。
And I said, Don't worry about it.
我说，别担心。
Things'll work out.
事情会解决的。
And their people caught on, too, how it was that things would work out.
他们的人也明白事情会如何发展。
And try to have that family base I guess you could say to show that I really loved them.
并尝试拥有这样的家庭基础，我想你可以说这表明我真的很爱他们。
And you got that way of acting from the movie?
你从电影中学到了这种表演方式吗？
Yeah.
是的。
Because when I first started learning about what a gang banger was or gang member, it was like your heart-- you're right there.
因为当我第一次开始了解什么是帮派成员或帮派成员时，就像你的心一样——你就在那里。
You ain't got no fear.
你没有恐惧。
You have no compassion.
你没有同情心。
Right.
正确的。
You gotta be hard.
你一定要努力。
Danny Toro That's it.
丹尼·托罗 就是这样。
You're a gang banger, you're a gang banger.
你就是一个黑帮，你就是一个黑帮。
And you're some cruel criminal or whatever you want to call it.
你是一个残忍的罪犯或者随便你怎么称呼它。
Well, from WBEZ Chicago and Public Radio International, it is This American Life.
嗯，来自 WBEZ 芝加哥和国际公共广播电台，这是《美国生活》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today on our program, gangsters, the ones in movies and the ones in real life, and how the two intersect.
今天我们的节目，黑帮，电影中的黑帮和现实生活中的黑帮，以及两者如何交叉。
Act One, The Freshman, why a college student in Montana would be watching The Godfather every single day, and what happens when she follows her obsession to Sicily.
第一幕，《新生》，为什么蒙大拿州的一名大学生每天都会看《教父》，以及当她追随自己的痴迷来到西西里岛时会发生什么。
Act Two, Mobster's Daughter.
第二幕，黑帮的女儿。
The true story of two different people born into the mob.
两个出生在黑帮中的不同人的真实故事。
Act Three, My Neighbor John Gotti, the true story of what it's like to live across the street from the place where the head of New York's Gambino crime family has his little parties, plus much, much more.
第三幕，《我的邻居约翰·高蒂》，讲述了住在纽约甘比诺犯罪家族头目举办小型派对的街对面的真实故事，还有更多更多内容。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, The Freshman.
第一幕，新生。
Sarah Vowell says that back in the days when she watched The Godfather every single day, she never really told anybody about it because she was afraid that her friends would interpret it as some sort of cry for help.
莎拉·沃威尔说，在她每天看《教父》的日子里，她从未真正告诉过任何人这件事，因为她担心她的朋友们会把这理解为某种呼救声。
She would watch The Godfather surreptitiously, when no roommates were around.
当周围没有室友的时候，她会偷偷地看《教父》。
She'd stop the videotape if the phone rang.
如果电话响了，她就会停止录像。
Here then, the true story of one woman's cross-cultural immersion.
这是一位女性跨文化沉浸的真实故事。
There comes a time in the middle of any halfway decent liberal arts major's college career when she no longer has any idea what she believes.
任何一个半途而废的文科专业的大学生涯中，总会有一段时间她不再知道自己相信什么。
She flies violently through air polluted by conflicting ideas and theories, never stopping at one system of thought long enough to feel at home.
她猛烈地飞翔在被相互冲突的思想和理论污染的空气中，从来没有在一种思想体系上停留足够长的时间来感到宾至如归。
All those books, all that talk, and, oh, the self-reflection.
所有这些书，所有的谈话，还有，哦，自我反思。
Am I an existentialist?
我是一个存在主义者吗？
A Taoist?
道士？
A transcendentalist?
超验主义者？
A modernist?
现代主义者？
A post-modernist?
后现代主义者？
A relativist?
相对主义者？
Positivist?
实证主义者？
Historicist?
历史主义者？
Anarchist?
无政府主义者？
Dadaist?
达达主义者？
Deconstructionist?
解构主义者？
Was I Apollonian or Dionysian?
我是阿波罗派还是酒神派？
Which was right, and which was wrong?
哪个是对的，哪个是错的？
Impressionism or expressionism?
印象派还是表现主义？
And while we're at it, is there such a thing as right and wrong?
当我们这样做的时候，有正确和错误之分吗？
Until I figured out that the flight between questions is, itself, a workable system, I craved answers, rules, a code.
在我发现问题之间的飞行本身就是一个可行的系统之前，我渴望答案、规则和代码。
And so I spent part of every week, sometimes every day, watching The Godfather on videotape.
所以我每周都会花一部分时间，有时是每天，看《教父》的录像带。
I wanted to cower in the dark brown rooms of Don Corleone, kiss his hand on his daughter's wedding day, explain what's wrong with me, and let him tell me he'll make everything all right.
我想蜷缩在唐·柯里昂的深棕色房间里，在他女儿的婚礼上亲吻他的手，解释我的问题，让他告诉我他会让一切都好起来。
Someday, and that day may never come, I'll call upon you to do a service for me.
有一天，也许永远不会到来，我会请你为我服务。
But until that day, accept this justice as a gift on my daughter's wedding day.
但在那一天之前，请接受这份正义，作为我女儿结婚当天的礼物。
Looking back, I wonder why a gangster movie kidnapped my life.
回想起来，我想知道为什么一部黑帮电影绑架了我的生活。
The Godfather had nothing to do with me.
教父与我无关。
I was a feminist, not Italian, and I lived in Montana.
我是一名女权主义者，而不是意大利人，我住在蒙大拿州。
I had never set foot in New York, thought ravioli came only in a can, and wasn't blind to the fact that all the women in the movie were either virgins, mothers, whores, or Diane Keaton.
我从未踏足过纽约，以为馄饨只是装在罐头里的，而且我并没有对电影中的所有女人要么是处女，要么是母亲，要么是妓女，要么是黛安·基顿这一事实视而不见。
But I fell for those made-up, sexist, East Coast thugs anyway.
但无论如何，我还是爱上了那些虚构的、性别歧视的东海岸暴徒。
Partly, it was the clothes, because fashion-wise, there is nothing less glamorous than snow-blown, backpacky college life in the Rocky Mountain states.
部分原因在于服装，因为就时尚而言，没有什么比落基山脉各州白雪皑皑、背包式的大学生活更迷人的了。
But I think what really attracted me to the film was that it offered a three-hour peep into a world with clear and definable moral guidelines, where you know where you stand and you know who you love, where honor is everything and the greatest sin isn't murder, but betrayal.
但我认为这部电影真正吸引我的是，它让我在三个小时的时间里窥见了一个有着清晰明确的道德准则的世界，在那里你知道自己的立场，你知道你爱谁，荣誉就是一切，最大的罪恶不是谋杀，而是背叛。
The Godfather is a film crammed with rules for living.
《教父》是一部充满生活规则的电影。
Don't bow down to big shots.
不要向大人物低头。
It's good when people owe you.
当人们欠你的时候，这很好。
This drug businesses is dangerous.
这种毒品生意很危险。
Is vengeance going to bring your son back to you or my boy to me?
复仇会让你的儿子回到你身边还是我的儿子回到我身边？
And the ever popular--
还有一直流行的——
What's the matter with you?
你怎么了？
I think your brain is going soft.
我觉得你的脑子变软了。
Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again.
永远不要再告诉家庭以外的任何人你的想法。
My favorite scene in the film takes place on a deserted highway with the Statue of Liberty in the background.
电影中我最喜欢的场景发生在一条荒芜的高速公路上，背景是自由女神像。
The Don's henchman, Clemenza, is on the road with two of his men, and he's under orders that only one of them's supposed to make the ride back.
唐的追随者克莱门扎和他的两名手下正在路上，他接到命令，只允许其中一人乘车返回。
[SOUND OF THREE GUNSHOTS] The grizzly, back-of-the-head murder of a rat fink associate is all in a day's work.
[三声枪响] 一名老鼠芬克同伙的灰白色后脑勺谋杀案就发生在一天的工作中。
But Clemenza's overriding responsibility is to his family.
但克莱门扎最重要的责任是对他的家人。
And he takes a moment out of his routine madness to remember that he had promised his wife he'll bring desert home.
他从日常的疯狂中抽出一点时间，想起他曾向妻子承诺过他会把甜点带回家。
His instruction to his partner in crime is an entire moral manifesto in six little words.
他对犯罪同伙的指示是用六个小字写成的完整道德宣言。
I'd been raised as a fundamentalist in a small town in Oklahoma.
我是在俄克拉荷马州的一个小镇上作为原教旨主义者长大的。
And by the time I got to college, I was a recent, and therefore shaky, atheist.
当我上大学时，我是一个新近的、因此摇摇欲坠的无神论者。
Like a lot of once-devout people who have lost religion, I had holes the size of heaven and hell inside my head and my heart.
就像许多曾经虔诚的人失去了宗教信仰一样，我的头脑和内心深处有天堂和地狱大小的洞。
I had had a God, commandments, faith, the promise of redemption, and a Bible, the Bible, which offered an explanation of everything from creation on through to the end of the world.
我有上帝、诫命、信仰、救赎的应许，还有一本圣经，圣经，它解释了从创世到世界末日的一切。
And now God was dead, and I had whacked him.
现在上帝死了，而我却殴打了他。
And when he was gone, what was left?
当他走了之后，还剩下什么？
Only question marks.
只有问号。
Don Corleone, the godfather, was not unlike God, the father, loving and indulgent one minute, wrathful and judgmental the next.
教父唐·柯里昂就像父亲上帝一样，前一分钟充满慈爱和宽容，下一分钟就变得愤怒和审判。
But the only "Thou shalt" in the Don's dogma was to honor thy family.
但唐的教条中唯一的“你应该”就是尊重你的家人。
He dances with his wife, weeps over his son's corpse, and dies playing in the garden with his grandson.
他与妻子跳舞，为儿子的尸体哭泣，最后与孙子在花园里玩耍时死去。
Sure, I do.
当然，我愿意。
Don Corleone Good, because a man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man.
唐·柯里昂：好，因为一个不花时间陪伴家人的男人永远不可能成为一个真正的男人。
Don Corleone wouldn't have paid actual money to sit in fluorescent-lit rooms listening to frat boys from Spokane babble on about Descartes.
唐·柯里昂不会花实际钱坐在荧光灯照明的房间里听来自斯波坎的兄弟会男孩喋喋不休地谈论笛卡尔。
Don Corleone had no time for mind games and conjecture.
唐·柯里昂没有时间进行心理游戏和猜测。
I, on the other hand, had nothing but time for such things, probably because I'm a frivolous female.
而我却没有时间做这些事，大概是因为我是个轻浮的女人吧。
I spent my life trying not to be careless.
我一生都在努力不粗心。
Women and the children can be careless, but not men.
女人和孩子可以粗心，但男人不行。
Christmas break.
圣诞假期。
I sign up for a semester of art history in Holland and fly to Europe a few weeks early.
我在荷兰报名了一个学期的艺术史课程，并提前几周飞往欧洲。
I get on a train in Vienna, and another in Berlin, and another after that.
我在维也纳乘火车，在柏林乘火车，然后又乘火车。
And one thing leads to another.
一件事导致另一件事。
And not thinking I was heading there, suddenly, I find myself-- surprise-- in Italy.
没想到我要去那里，突然，我惊讶地发现自己在意大利。
How did that happen?
这是怎么发生的？
Oh well, as long as I'm in Florence, might as well pop down and give Sicily a look-see.
哦，好吧，只要我在佛罗伦萨，不妨去西西里岛看看。
Have I mentioned how I love that part of The Godfather when Michael's hiding out there, traipsing around his ancestral hills, walking the streets of his father's birthplace, Corleone?
我有没有提到过，当迈克尔躲在那里，在他祖先的山上漫步，在他父亲的出生地柯里昂的街道上行走时，我是多么喜欢《教父》中的那一部分？
I take a night train from Rome down the boot and wake up in the Sicilian capital, Palermo.
我从罗马乘坐夜间火车，在西西里首府巴勒莫醒来。
I feel ridiculous.
我觉得可笑。
I thought of myself as a serious person, and it didn't seem like serious people traveled hundreds of miles out of their way to walk in the footsteps of Al Pacino.
我认为自己是一个严肃的人，而严肃的人似乎不会千里迢迢地追随阿尔·帕西诺的脚步。
Still, I feel silly being there, but not so silly that I'm above tracking down a bakery and buying, yes, a cannoli, my first.
尽管如此，我还是觉得在那里很傻，但又不傻到我不顾一切地找到一家面包店，买了，是的，我的第一个奶油甜馅煎饼卷。
I walk down to the sea and eat it.
我走到海边去吃它。
It's sweeter than I thought it would be, more dense, and the filling's flecked with chocolate and candied orange.
它比我想象的更甜，更浓密，馅料上点缀着巧克力和蜜饯橙子。
Clemenza was right, leave that gun.
克莱门扎是对的，留下那把枪。
Take that cannoli.
拿那个奶油甜馅煎饼卷。
The town of Corleone really exists and can be reached by bus.
柯里昂镇确实存在，可以乘坐巴士到达。
Believe me, I checked.
相信我，我检查过。
Every morning, I'd go to the travel office in Palermo to buy a ticket to the Godfather's hometown.
每天早上，我都会去巴勒莫的旅游局买一张去教父故乡的机票。
And every morning, when I stand before the ticket agent, I can never quite bring myself to say the word "Corleone" out loud to a real, live Sicilian, because you know they know.
每天早上，当我站在售票员面前时，我永远无法让自己对一个真正的西西里人大声说出“柯里昂”这个词，因为你知道他们知道。
Idiot Americans and their idiot films.
白痴美国人和他们的白痴电影。
I have my dignity.
我有我的尊严。
So each morning, when the ticket agent asks, "Where to?" one of two things happens.
所以每天早上，当售票员问：“去哪里？”发生两件事之一。
I say nothing, and just walk off, and spend the day in Palermo reading John Irving novels on a bench by the sea.
我什么也没说，就走开了，在巴勒莫海边的长椅上读约翰·欧文的小说度过了一天。
Or I utter the name of a proper, art-historically significant town instead, as if the clerk will hear me say, "Agrigento," and say to himself, "Oh, she's going to see the Doric temple.
或者我会说出一个适当的、具有艺术历史意义的城镇的名字，就好像店员会听到我说“阿格里真托”，然后对自己说：“哦，她要去参观多立克柱式神庙。
Impressive.
令人印象深刻。
Wonder if she's free for a cannoli later?"
不知道她待会儿有空吃奶油甜馅煎饼卷吗？”
So on my final day in Sicily, my last chance at Corleone, I walk to the ticket counter, look in the clerk's eyes, and ask for a round-trip ticket to Corle-- Cefalu, yeah, Cefalu.
因此，在西西里岛的最后一天，也是我在柯里昂的最后一次机会，我走到售票柜台，看着店员的眼睛，要了一张去科尔莱——切法卢的往返机票，是的，切法卢。
That's it.
就是这样。
To see a Byzantine mosaic I remember liking in one of my school books.
我记得在一本教科书上看到过拜占庭马赛克。
Cefalu might as well have been Corleone.
切法鲁也可能是柯里昂。
It had the same steep, cobblestone streets and blanched, little buildings that I remembered from the movie.
它有着我在电影中记忆中的同样陡峭的鹅卵石街道和苍白的小建筑。
"Lovely," I thought, as I started walking up the hill to its tiny, 12th-century cathedral.
“太棒了，”我一边想，一边开始上山前往这座 12 世纪的小型大教堂。
"Freak," everyone in the town thought as I marched past them.
“怪胎，”当我从他们身边走过时，镇上的每个人都这么想。
An entire class of schoolchildren stopped cold to gawk at me.
全班的小学生都停下来呆呆地看着我。
Six-year-old girls pointed at my shoes and laughed.
六岁的女孩指着我的鞋子笑了。
Hunched, old men glared as if the sight of me was a vicious insult.
老人们弯着腰，瞪着我，仿佛看到我就是一种恶毒的侮辱。
I felt like a living, breathing faux pas.
我感觉自己就像一个活生生、呼吸失常的人。
At least no one was inside the church.
至少教堂里没有人。
The only eyes upon me there were those of the looming, sad-eyed Messiah.
唯一注视着我的目光是那双若隐若现、眼神悲伤的弥赛亚。
The Jesus in this mosaic is huge, three times larger than any other figure in the church.
这幅马赛克中的耶稣非常巨大，是教堂中任何其他人物的三倍。
And there's something menacing in the way he holds that tablet with the word of God on it.
他拿着那块刻有上帝话语的石板的方式有一种威胁的感觉。
But his eyes are compassionate.
但他的眼神却充满慈悲。
And that contradictory mix of stern judgment and heart, he may as well have been wearing a tuxedo, and holding a cat, and saying something like--
严厉的判断和内心的矛盾混合在一起，他可能还穿着燕尾服，抱着一只猫，说着类似的话——
What have I ever done to make you treat me so disrespectfully?
我到底做了什么让你如此不尊重我？
I leave the church and go for lunch.
我离开教堂去吃午饭。
I am the only patron at a tiny family restaurant operated by mama, poppa, son one, and son two.
我是一家小家庭餐馆的唯一顾客，这家餐馆由妈妈、爸爸、一儿子和二儿子经营。
They glare at me as if I glow in the dark.
他们瞪着我，仿佛我在黑暗中发光。
Soon, they'll wish I glowed in the dark.
很快，他们就会希望我在黑暗中发光。
The power keeps going on and off because of a thunderstorm.
由于雷雨天气，电源时断时续。
And the sky outside is nearly black.
外面的天空几乎是黑色的。
The muzak version of "A Whiter Shade of Pale" is playing.
正在播放穆扎克版的“A Whiter Shade of Pale”。
And it flickers too, so that every few seconds, it's dark and silent, which is a relief considering that the rest of the time, it's loud and the entire family have seated themselves across from me and gape without smiling.
它也会闪烁，所以每隔几秒钟，周围就会一片漆黑、一片寂静，考虑到其余时间都很吵闹，而且全家人都坐在我对面，目瞪口呆，没有笑容，这真是一种解脱。
The eggplant on my plate is wonderful, but such is my desire for escape that I've never chewed so fast in my life.
我盘子里的茄子很美味，但我这辈子从来没有嚼得这么快过，这就是我对逃避的渴望。
How had it never hit me before?
它以前怎么从来没有袭击过我？
The whole point of The Godfather film is not to trust anyone outside the family.
《教父》电影的重点是不要相信家庭之外的任何人。
And whatever I may have thought while sitting in front of my VCR, I am not actually Sicilian.
无论我坐在录像机前怎么想，我实际上都不是西西里人。
You may be surprised to learn, I bear no resemblance to Clemenza, Tessio, or any of the heads of the five families.
你可能会惊讶地发现，我与克莱门扎、泰西奥或五个家族的任何一家之主都没有相似之处。
If I were a character in the film at all, I'd be one of those pain-in-the-ass, innocent bystanders in the restaurant where Michael murders Solazzo.
如果我是电影中的一个角色，我就会成为迈克尔谋杀索拉佐的餐厅里那些令人痛苦的无辜旁观者之一。
I'm the tuba player in Moe Greene's casino.
我是莫·格林赌场的大号手。
I'm that kid who rides his bike past Michael and Kay on Kay's street in New Hampshire who yells, "Hello," and neither Michael nor Kay says hello back.
我就是那个在新罕布什尔州凯的街道上骑着自行车经过迈克尔和凯的孩子，他大喊“你好”，但迈克尔和凯都没有回应。
I got sucked in by The Godfather movies' moral certainty, never quite recognizing that the other side of moral certainty is close-mindedness.
我被《教父》电影的道德确定性所吸引，从未完全认识到道德确定性的另一面是思想封闭。
Given the choice, I prefer chaos and confusion.
如果可以选择，我更喜欢混乱和混乱。
Why live by those old world rules?
为什么要遵守那些旧世界的规则？
Why not tell people outside the family what you're thinking?
为什么不告诉家庭以外的人你的想法呢？
Trust me on this.
相信我。
It's a living.
这是一种生活。
And if you see Michael, tell him it's nothing personal.
如果你见到迈克尔，请告诉他这不是私人恩怨。
It's only business.
这只是生意。
Sarah Vowell.
莎拉·沃威尔。
Her story appears in her book Take the Cannoli.
她的故事出现在她的书《Take the Cannoli》中。
Her latest book is Assassination Vacation.
她的最新著作是《刺杀假期》。
[MUSIC - "WHITER SHADE OF PALE" BY PROCOL HARUM]
[音乐 - PROCOL HARUM 的“白色阴影”]
Act Two, Gangster's Daughter.
第二幕，黑帮的女儿。
Susan Berman It was 1957, and I was 12.
苏珊·伯曼 那是 1957 年，我 12 岁。
They said it was the largest funeral Las Vegas had ever seen.
他们说这是拉斯维加斯有史以来规模最大的葬礼。
There were thousands of mourners.
有数千人哀悼。
The pall bearers were men I had known, Gus Greenbaum, whose throat would later be slashed in Phoenix, Willie "Ice Pick" Alderman, who would die on Terminal Island, while serving time on a mob extortion rap, Joe Rosenberg, one of my father's partners, who was known as his mouthpiece, Nick the Greek, the famed odds maker.
抬棺材的人都是我认识的人，格斯·格林鲍姆（Gus Greenbaum），他的喉咙后来在菲尼克斯被割断；威利·“冰锥”·阿尔德曼（Willie“Ice Pick”Alderman），他在暴徒勒索说唱服刑期间死在终端岛；乔·罗森伯格（Joe Rosenberg），我父亲的合伙人之一，被称为他的代言人；希腊人尼克，著名的赔率制造者。
Squat Jewish men surrounded Uncle Chickie and me at the funeral, saying, "We don't expect trouble."
在葬礼上，矮胖的犹太男人围住了奇基叔叔和我，说道：“我们预计不会有麻烦。”
Susan Berman's father was Davie Berman, a Jewish gangster who was one of the founders of modern Las Vegas, trusted confidant of Meyer Lansky, Frank Constello, and Bugsy Siegel.
苏珊·伯曼的父亲是戴维·伯曼，一个犹太黑帮，现代拉斯维加斯的创始人之一，迈耶·兰斯基、弗兰克·康斯特洛和巴格西·西格尔的信任密友。
The son of a Russian-immigrant rabbinical student, he built his own gambling empire when he was just 16 and went on to become a bootlegger and bank robber, whose face appeared on dozens of "Wanted" posters.
作为一名俄罗斯移民拉比学生的儿子，他在 16 岁时就建立了自己的赌博帝国，后来成为走私犯和银行抢劫犯，他的脸出现在数十张“通缉”海报上。
He was the brazen kid who engineered one of the first kidnaps for ransom, escaped death in a Central Park shoot-out, and was described by a detective on the front page of The New York Times as "the toughest Jew I ever met."
他是一个厚颜无耻的孩子，策划了第一起绑架勒索事件，在中央公园的枪战中逃脱了死亡，并被《纽约时报》头版的一名侦探描述为“我见过的最坚强的犹太人”。
One of the most romantic and appealing notions about gangsters is the idea that they're cold-blooded tough guys while they're out in the world, but loving family men when they're at home.
关于黑帮最浪漫、最吸引人的观念之一是，他们在外面是冷血的硬汉，但在家里却是热爱家庭的男人。
And while that's obviously not true for lots of real-life mobsters, it does actually seem to be true for Davie Berman.
虽然对于现实生活中的许多黑帮来说显然并非如此，但对于戴维·伯曼来说似乎确实如此。
When his wife was ill and away from home for months, he was almost a new-age dad, 1990s-style dad, taking care of his daughter himself, spending time with her every day, helping her with her math homework in the casino's money counting room.
当妻子生病离开家几个月时，他几乎是一个新时代的爸爸，90年代风格的爸爸，亲自照顾女儿，每天花时间陪伴她，在赌场的点钞室辅导她做数学作业。
Davie Berman was an owner of the Flamingo and Riviera hotels.
戴维·伯曼 (Davie Berman) 是弗拉明戈酒店和里维埃拉酒店的所有者。
And in those same rooms, they would skim the profits off for his mob bosses back east.
在这些房间里，他们会为他东部的黑帮老大榨取利润。
This is an excerpt from Susan Berman's memoir Easy Street.
这是苏珊·伯曼的回忆录《轻松街》的节选。
The book is filled with scenes of this odd collision of worlds.
这本书充满了这种奇怪的世界碰撞的场景。
Her father's world, she writes, was dangerous and violent and severe.
她写道，她父亲的世界是危险、暴力和严峻的。
But he crafted a childhood that seemed to her at the time to be completely normal.
但他创造了一个在当时她看来完全正常的童年。
She had no idea about his criminal ties.
她不知道他的犯罪关系。
I thought we had no house key because, as he said, "Somebody is always home." Mob members never carry keys, because if they're kidnapped, a rival could get to their families.
我以为我们没有房门钥匙，因为正如他所说，“总有人在家。”黑帮成员从不携带钥匙，因为如果他们被绑架，对手可能会找到他们的家人。
My father was austere.
我的父亲很严厉。
He didn't gamble, drink, or smoke.
他不赌博、不喝酒、也不抽烟。
He told me he didn't like to stay in small rooms for a long time because he felt confined.
他告诉我，他不喜欢长时间呆在小房间里，因为他感到受到限制。
I later learned that he had served seven years in Sing Sing, four in solitary confinement on a 12-year sentence.
后来我得知，他在新新监狱服刑七年，其中四年被单独监禁，刑期为十二年。
I thought we had no checking account because, as he said, "Everybody knows us here.
我以为我们没有支票账户，因为正如他所说，“这里每个人都认识我们。
We just use cash." Mob members prefer to keep cash boxes and few visible assets.
我们只使用现金。”黑帮成员更喜欢保留钱箱和很少的可见资产。
He told me our late night jaunts to Los Angeles were a vacation.
他告诉我，我们深夜去洛杉矶旅行是为了度假。
He'd wake me and tell me to get dressed.
他会叫醒我，让我穿好衣服。
We'd drive to McCarran Field and fly to LA.
我们将开车前往麦卡伦球场，然后飞往洛杉矶。
I'd be kept at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel for a few days with a couple of his men friends.
我会和他的几个男性朋友一起在贝弗利威尔希尔酒店待几天。
They took me to Uncle Bernie's toy store in Beverly Hills to drink lemonade from the lemonade tree.
他们带我去比佛利山伯尼叔叔的玩具店喝柠檬水树上的柠檬水。
And we ordered coffee ice cream in our room from MFK's drug store in the hotel.
我们在房间里从酒店的MFK药店订购了咖啡冰淇淋。
Then my father would reappear magically after two days and take me to the Brown Derby for dinner.
然后两天后我的父亲会神奇地再次出现并带我去布朗德比吃晚饭。
We'd sit under Ingrid Bergman's picture.
我们会坐在英格丽·褒曼的照片下面。
And he'd order "lamb chops with pink skirts for Susie" and put me on a red, leather child seat, so I could join in the conversation.
他会点“给苏西搭配粉色裙子的羊排”，然后把我放在一个红色的皮革儿童座椅上，这样我就可以加入谈话。
In fact, these "vacations" were flights to freedom when there was mob unrest, and I was in danger.
事实上，这些“假期”是在暴民骚乱、我处于危险之中时奔赴自由的旅程。
I knew my father's partners only from a child's perspective, the same way I knew my father.
我只是从孩子的角度来了解我父亲的伴侣，就像我了解我的父亲一样。
There was Willie Alderman, called "Ice Pick" Willie in his youth because he allegedly killed people with an ice pick.
威利·阿尔德曼（Willie Alderman）年轻时被称为“冰镐”威利，因为据称他用冰镐杀人。
Willie was my favorite, a big, lumpy, silent man who greeted me every day with, "How you doing, Susie?" He was always at my father's side.
威利是我最喜欢的人，他是一个身材魁梧、身材魁梧、沉默寡言的男人，他每天都会跟我打招呼：“苏西，你好吗？”他一直在我父亲身边。
There was Gus Greenbaum, a junkie and alleged killer.
格斯·格林鲍姆（Gus Greenbaum）是一名瘾君子，也是一名被指控的杀手。
Gus was an older, dark-skinned man who smoked cigars and growled.
格斯是一个年纪较大、皮肤黝黑的男人，他一边抽着雪茄，一边咆哮。
He never paid any attention to me and never smiled.
他从来没有注意到我，也从来没有微笑过。
Once I kicked him as hard as I could in the ankle just to prove I existed.
有一次我用尽全身力气踢他的脚踝，只是为了证明我的存在。
He said, "Davie, the kid takes after you." I asked my father if he had kicked big, mean men too.
他说：“戴维，这孩子很像你。”我问父亲他是否也踢过大而卑鄙的人。
But my father said, no, and not to kick Gus again.
但我父亲说，不，不要再踢格斯了。
My father's mother, Clara, or Bubby to me, would show up unannounced at our home in Las Vegas once a month for her "pay-as-you-eat Shabbes dinner." Around 2:00 PM on a Friday, Bubby would pound on the front door, yelling, "Davie, Lou, Susie, let me in.
我父亲的母亲克拉拉（Clara），或者对我来说是巴比（Bubby），每月一次会在没有事先通知的情况下出现在我们位于拉斯维加斯的家中，参加她的“即付即用的沙布斯晚餐”。周五下午 2:00 左右，巴比会敲打前门，大喊：“戴维、卢、苏西，让我进去。
Hurry up." Of course, my father was never home from the hotel in the afternoon, but she'd act as if he should have been.
快点。”当然，下午我父亲从来没有从酒店回家，但她表现得好像他应该回家一样。
She'd run all over the house looking for him, then go right into the kitchen and sneer, "So where's Davie?
她满屋子跑来找他，然后径直走进厨房，冷笑道：“那么戴维在哪儿？
Working again?"
又上班了？”
Without waiting for an answer, she'd throw down her shawl and start unpacking two huge needlepoint bags full of groceries.
不等回答，她就扔下披肩，开始打开两个装满杂货的大针绣袋。
She was in a frenzy, her white hair standing up in wisps as it came out of her bun.
她陷入了疯狂，一缕缕白发从发髻中竖立起来。
She was short, and stout, and smelled like old rouge.
她又矮又胖，闻起来像旧胭脂。
As soon as she washed the carrots for the matzo-ball soup, she yelled at our bodyguard, Lou, to "Come and chop these carrots into little pieces." Lou dutifully went into the kitchen.
她一洗完做无酵饼汤的胡萝卜，就对我们的保镖卢大喊“过来把这些胡萝卜切成小块。”卢尽职地走进厨房。
She took an egg beater from her purse and started making matzo balls and washing the chicken.
她从钱包里拿出一个打蛋器，开始制作无酵饼球并清洗鸡肉。
After about an hour of intense preparation, during which she yelled at me to, "Stay out of my goddamn way," and said, "ach" several times, and "oy vay" if Lou wasn't fast enough on the chopping.
经过大约一个小时的紧张准备，在此期间，她对我大喊“别挡我的路”，并说了好几次“啊”，如果卢砍得不够快，就说“哎哟”。
Bubby hit the telephone and had all my father's friends paged in the casino.
巴比打了电话，给我父亲所有在赌场的朋友打电话。
"Hello, Gus?
“喂，格斯？
Clara Berman.
克拉拉·伯曼.
I'm making a Shabbes meal at Davie's tonight.
今晚我要在戴维家做一顿沙布斯餐。
Be here at sundown.
日落时分来到这里。
You eat good," she'd say, as she rang up Willy, Joe, Mickey Cohen, and others, usually about eight men.
你吃得很好，”她一边说，一边给威利、乔、米基·科恩和其他人（通常是八个人）打电话。
Around 6:00 PM, the sleek, dark Cadillacs would roll up.
下午 6:00 左右，时尚的深色凯迪拉克汽车就会开过来。
Gus, Joe, Mickey, Willie, and others arrived, and the hungry Jewish men took their places around our table.
格斯、乔、米奇、威利和其他人都到了，饥饿的犹太男人在我们的桌子周围就座。
My father entered with an expression that said, "Oh, no, not again." But he kissed Bubby hello and sat down too.
我父亲走进来，表情像是在说：“哦，不，不会了。”但他还是亲吻了巴比，打招呼，然后也坐下了。
They ate with the gusto of men starved for a matzo ball.
他们吃得津津有味，就像饥饿的人们渴望无酵饼一样。
It was always a silent dinner except for slurping noises from the soup bowls.
晚餐总是很安静，除了汤碗发出的吸水声。
Bubby lit the menorah on the mantle.
巴比点燃了地幔上的烛台。
She kept shoving food onto my father's plate, saying, "Davie, you're too thin." And Gus came in for chiding if he didn't finish every drop.
她不停地把食物塞到我父亲的盘子里，说：“戴维，你太瘦了。”如果格斯没有喝完每一滴，他就会过来责备他。
"Whatsa matter?
“有什么事吗？
You got an ulcer from the hotel business?
你是因为酒店生意得了溃疡吗？
You can't finish the tsimmes?"
你不能吃完tsimmes吗？”
When the strudel was gone, Bubby would remove her apron and announce, "Fine, first you eat, then you pay.
当馅饼吃完后，巴比会脱下围裙并宣布：“好吧，你先吃，然后付钱。
I need gelt for my City of Hope project." And she'd go to each man and hold out her fat hand.
我的希望之城项目需要 gelt。”她会走到每个男人面前，伸出她那只胖手。
My father looked embarrassed to death and said, "Momma, I'll give you the money.
爸爸一脸尴尬的说：“妈妈，我给你钱。
You promised you'd never do this again.
你答应过你再也不会这样做了。
Please?" But she knew her victims.
请问？”但她了解她的受害者。
$100 bills flowed out of their pockets while I watched in fascination.
当我着迷地看着时，100美元的钞票从他们的口袋里流了出来。
She put a rubber band around the take and threw it into her needlepoint bag.
她在录音带上缠了一根橡皮筋，然后把它扔进了她的绣花袋里。
Susan Berman's memories of Jewish gangsters and their gangster-style Jewish mothers will continue in a minute from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International when our program continues.
当我们的节目继续时，苏珊·伯曼对犹太黑帮和他们黑帮风格的犹太母亲的记忆将在芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台继续进行。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme, invite a variety of writers, reporters, and performers to tackle that theme.
当然，每周我们的节目都会选择一个主题，邀请各种作家、记者和表演者来解决这个主题。
Today's program, The Mob.
今天的节目是《黑帮》。
What we think we know about the mob, and what's actually true.
我们认为我们对暴徒的了解，以及事实真相。
We're in the middle of Act Two of our program, Mobster's Daughter.
我们的节目《黑帮之女》第二幕正在进行中。
So let's say that your father is a big-time gangster and, like the men in The Godfather movies, actually does try to protect you from ever knowing what exactly he does for a living.
假设你的父亲是一个大黑帮，就像《教父》电影中的男人一样，他实际上试图保护你不知道他到底靠什么谋生。
What happens when you find out?
当你发现后会发生什么？
Well, Susan Berman's father died of natural causes when she was 12.
苏珊·伯曼 (Susan Berman) 的父亲在她 12 岁时自然去世。
Her mother died a year later.
一年后，她的母亲去世了。
And the first time anyone directly told her about her father's underworld ties was when she was in college.
第一次有人直接告诉她她父亲的黑社会关系是在她上大学的时候。
Another student told her about this new book that talked about what her father really did in Las Vegas.
另一位学生告诉她这本新书讲述了她父亲在拉斯维加斯的真实所作所为。
I rushed to Martindale's Book Store, which was in Beverly Hills, no longer existent, and quickly found this book The Green Felt Jungle.
我赶到比佛利山庄已经不复存在的马丁代尔书店，很快找到了《绿毡丛林》这本书。
There was a huge display of them.
他们有一个巨大的展示。
And I quickly looked at the index, "Davie Berman." And it did.
我快速查看了索引，“戴维·伯曼”。确实如此。
It had a whole chapter on the Flamingo Hotel and Ben Siegel's death.
书中用了一整章的篇幅讲述了火烈鸟酒店和本·西格尔的死。
And it said that after Ben Siegel was dead, that Davie Berman-- and then in parentheses, "Who could kill a man with one hand behind his back." And a little later in the chapter, it said that he had been "wounded in a shoot-out with an FBI man in Central Park and done 11 years in Sing Sing." And then it went on to talk about his other partners.
上面说，本·西格尔死后，戴维·伯曼——然后在括号里说，“谁能在背后用一只手杀死一个人。”本章稍后提到他“在中央公园与一名联邦调查局人员的枪战中受伤，并在新新监狱服刑 11 年”。然后继续谈论他的其他合作伙伴。
Well, I started to throw up in the book store.
好吧，我开始在书店呕吐。
I was so shocked.
我很震惊。
You literally threw up in the bookstore?
你真的在书店里吐了吗？
Literally.
字面上地。
How gross, right?
多么恶心，对吧？
It was just a visceral reaction.
这只是一种本能反应。
I couldn't believe it.
我简直不敢相信。
And of course, I didn't think it was true.
当然，我不认为这是真的。
As Susan Berman describes in her memoir Easy Street, she worked so hard at believing this wasn't true that eventually, she forgot the incident ever happened.
正如苏珊·伯曼在她的回忆录《轻松街》中所描述的那样，她非常努力地相信这不是真的，以至于最终她忘记了这件事曾经发生过。
Years later, she was a reporter for the San Francisco Examiner and interviewed Jimmy Hoffa just a month before he vanished.
多年后，她成为《旧金山观察报》的记者，并在吉米·霍法失踪前一个月采访了他。
He and his men all knew her dad.
他和他的手下都认识她的父亲。
One of them said he was, quote, "much smarter than the guys running the outfit now," end quote.
其中一位人士表示，他“比现在管理这家公司的人聪明得多”，引用结束语。
And still, she did not want to believe that her dad was with the mob.
尽管如此，她还是不愿意相信她的父亲和暴徒在一起。
Finally, when somebody showed her her father's FBI files, finally then, reluctantly, she believed.
最后，当有人向她展示她父亲的联邦调查局档案时，她终于不情愿地相信了。
Terri Dalessio had a similar rude awakening.
特丽·达莱西奥 (Terri Dalessio) 也有类似的猛然醒悟。
Her uncles and father were gangsters on Staten Island from before World War II.
她的叔叔和父亲在二战前都是史坦顿岛上的黑帮。
They ran numbers, bootlegging, the longshoremen's union, the works.
他们经营数字、走私、码头工人工会和工厂。
She has pictures of herself with Robert De Niro.
她有自己和罗伯特·德尼罗的合影。
Some of The Godfather locations, she says, were filmed at her real-life godfather's house on Staten Island.
她说，《教父》的一些外景地是在她现实生活中教父位于史泰登岛的房子里拍摄的。
She found out about her own family's business when she was 14, by accident.
14岁时，她偶然发现了自己家族的生意。
She was passing a candy store, and she saw photos of her family on the front page of a newspaper called The Mirror.
她路过一家糖果店时，在一份名为《镜报》的报纸头版上看到了她家人的照片。
She couldn't believe it.
她简直不敢相信。
And I said, no. My father?
我说，不。我的父亲？
My uncles?
我的叔叔们？
My names?
我的名字？
So I asked my mother.
于是我就问妈妈。
She said, "That's your father's business."
她说：“那是你父亲的事。”
So I'm a Mafia daughter.
所以我是黑手党的女儿。
Well, here I go.
好吧，我开始了。
And I went.
我去了。
I started to rebel.
我开始反抗。
I ran away.
我逃跑了。
I went to Pocono Mountains to find my grandmother, and hitchhiked all the way with two friends of mine.
我去波科诺山寻找祖母，和两个朋友一路搭便车。
And I never made it to the house.
我从来没有到过房子。
I got tired, and the two fellows that were with me tired.
我累了，和我在一起的两个人也累了。
And we broke into a farmhouse to get something to eat and rest.
然后我们闯进一间农舍去吃点东西休息一下。
And I found a shotgun, and I found bullets, shells for the shotgun, and I just proceeded to shoot the house up.
我找到了一把霰弹枪，我找到了子弹，霰弹枪的弹壳，然后我就开始射击房子。
So where it came from, I don't know, this fury.
所以我不知道这种愤怒从何而来。
It was festing in me.
它在我体内盛宴。
We got away with it because my father paid $1,500 for repairs.
我们侥幸逃脱了惩罚，因为我父亲支付了 1,500 美元的维修费。
In those days, that was a lot of money.
在那个年代，这可是一大笔钱。
And I didn't get spanked or anything.
我没有被打屁股什么的。
I just got, "You know, you shouldn't do things like that." But I did.
我只是说，“你知道，你不应该做那样的事情。”但我做到了。
All this festered inside me.
这一切都在我内心溃烂。
And I decided that I wasn't going to be called Johnny Dee's daughter anymore.
我决定不再叫我约翰尼·迪伊的女儿了。
I was gonna make my own reputation and be Terri Dee.
我要赢得自己的声誉并成为特丽·迪。
I looked older than what I was.
我看起来比实际年龄要老。
And I would be drinking in any bar I could get into with my friends.
我会和朋友们去任何我能去的酒吧喝酒。
My dad had every cop in that area on the payroll.
我父亲的工资单上有那个地区的每一个警察。
They would get a $50 reward if they found me.
如果他们找到我，他们将获得 50 美元的奖励。
So if I saw anything walk in the door with a suit on, I knew it was a detective, and I'd hide under the table or run out of the bar.
因此，如果我看到任何穿着西装的人走进门口，我就知道那是一名侦探，我会躲在桌子底下或跑出酒吧。
You have to understand, Staten Island was a very small area in those days.
你要明白，史坦顿岛当时的面积非常小。
And my family ran Staten Island.
我的家族经营史坦顿岛。
In my early days, I could pick up the phone and say, "Mary, connect me with my aunt." And the operator would just connect me.
在我早期，我可以拿起电话说：“玛丽，帮我联系我的阿姨。”接线员就会帮我接通。
My father used to say to me, "Why don't you meet a nice man?" "Who am I gonna meet, dad?
我父亲常常对我说：“你为什么不遇到一个好男人呢？” “我要去见谁，爸爸？
A lawyer?
律师？
A judge?
法官？
A cop?
警察？
Who would you like me to go out with?
你希望我和谁出去？
I'm Johnny Dee's daughter.
我是约翰尼·迪伊的女儿。
Who is gonna go out with me but somebody who wants to impress you?" Common sense.
除了一个想给你留下深刻印象的人之外，还有谁愿意和我出去呢？”常识。
My father-- I was the first born.
我的父亲——我是长子。
I was a girl.
我是一个女孩。
He cried for two weeks because he wanted a boy.
他哭了两个星期，因为他想要一个男孩。
A year later came a boy.
一年后，生了一个男孩。
I have a brother one year younger than me.
我有一个比我小一岁的弟弟。
But he never let go of me as his son-daughter.
但他始终没有放弃我这个儿子。
So I went to all the fights in Greenwood Lake, Joe Lewis, all-- I was just a little bit of a thing.
所以我参加了格林伍德湖的所有比赛，乔·刘易斯，所有的——我只是一个小人物。
And everything he did, he dragged me with him.
他所做的一切，都是他拉着我一起走的。
So I was like his son.
所以我就像他的儿子一样。
I have been on sit-downs, one of the very few women I know that ever were.
我曾经静坐过，是我认识的极少数曾经静坐过的女性之一。
And here I am, sitting there like, I'd think, "Who the hell I am?" But mentally, I have the mind of a man.
而我就在这里，坐在那里，我想，“我到底是谁？”但在精神上，我有一个男人的头脑。
So my gambler husband owed a lot of money to two guys, who were like lower enchalant in the mob.
所以我的赌徒丈夫欠了两个家伙很多钱，他们就像暴徒中的下等附魔。
And they came to my house, and they told my twins, 12 years old, "You tell your father--" and it wasn't their father-- "You tell your father that we're gonna burn the house down, burn his bar down, and burn his car down." Well, when I heard that, I went insane, because this man was on his way out anyway.
他们来到我家，告诉我 12 岁的双胞胎，“你告诉你的父亲——”但那不是他们的父亲——“你告诉你的父亲，我们要烧毁房子，烧毁他的酒吧，烧毁他的汽车。”好吧，当我听到这个消息时，我简直要疯了，因为这个人无论如何都要出去了。
So I just simply went to the bar where they hung out with a shotgun.
所以我只是去了他们拿着猎枪闲逛的酒吧。
I walked in the bar, big as day with a shotgun, in broad daylight.
我光天化日之下拿着猎枪走进酒吧，气势如日。
I said, "Are you so-and-so?
我说：“你是某某吗？
And are you so-and-so?
而你是某某吗？
Well, let me tell you something.
好吧，让我告诉你一件事。
You better not touch my house, my car, or my business, because they're mine.
你最好不要碰我的房子、我的车或我的生意，因为它们是我的。
I don't owe you any money.
我不欠你任何钱。
They don't belong to the gambler.
他们不属于赌徒。
They're mine.
他们是我的。
So if I see your car pull up in my driveway, I will shoot you."
所以如果我看到你的车停在我的车道上，我就会开枪打死你。”
And one day, they pulled up to tell me everything was OK.
有一天，他们停下来告诉我一切都好。
And I did fire at the car.
我确实向汽车开枪了。
They just took off.
他们刚刚起飞。
[LAUGHING] I slept with a shotgun under my bed.
[笑]我睡觉时床底下放着一把猎枪。
I loved the violence at the time.
我喜欢当时的暴力。
I caused my own violence.
我自己造成了暴力。
Anyone who wanted to kill my husband knew they should not do it with me around.
任何想要杀死我丈夫的人都知道他们不应该在我在场的情况下这么做。
So that's why wherever we went, we went together.
所以这就是为什么无论我们去哪里，我们都一起去。
I'd walk in front of him.
我会走在他前面。
They had no right to hurt me because of my family.
他们没有权利因为我的家人而伤害我。
That's one thing that was honored.
这是一件值得荣幸的事情。
I'm going to find this picture sooner or later.
我迟早会找到这张照片的。
I have an album here, "This is Your life." Here it is.
我这里有一张专辑，《这就是你的生活》。这里是。
This is the house my family has in the Pocono Mountains.
这是我家在波科诺山脉的房子。
It's a mansion.
这是一座豪宅。
Three-mile lake with an island in the middle.
三英里湖，中间有一座岛屿。
Marble imported from Italy.
意大利进口大理石。
Bathtubs enough to fit three people, four people.
浴缸足够容纳三个人、四个人。
Everything was imported marble from Italy.
所有东西都是从意大利进口的大理石。
Had a five-car garage.
有一个五车位的车库。
Upstairs was a bathroom and four bedrooms for the servants.
楼上有一间浴室和四间供仆人使用的卧室。
And this is what I was raised in.
这就是我长大的环境。
I now live in one room.
我现在住在一个房间里。
I have a table.
我有一张桌子。
I have an air filter, an air conditioner.
我有一个空气过滤器，一个空调。
I have a TV, telephone.
我有电视、电话。
I live in a room.
我住在一个房间里。
And I am perfectly happy in this room.
我在这个房间里非常开心。
Theresa lost all her money.
特蕾莎失去了所有的钱。
Married four times.
结过四次婚。
One of her husbands and one of her fiances were shot to death in front of her.
她的一位丈夫和一位未婚夫在她面前被枪杀。
Her life today barely resembles the life that she had as a girl.
她今天的生活与她小时候的生活几乎没有什么相似之处。
But even today, in her 60s, living in a hospice, Theresa still reverts to her gangster daughter ways sometimes.
但即使在今天，60 多岁的特蕾莎住在临终关怀医院，有时仍然会恢复她黑帮女儿的生活方式。
Once in a while, if a situation pops up like it did one time when I lived in Greenwich Halfway House-- I was kitchen manager.
偶尔，如果出现像我住在格林威治中途之家时那样的情况——我是厨房经理。
This waiter who was one of the residents-- all the residents worked there-- served a dish to a woman.
这位服务员是住户之一——所有住户都在那里工作——给一位女士上了一道菜。
And this man sat in that seat and decided to pray.
这个人坐在那个座位上，决定祈祷。
She started screaming, "Why are you praying over my food?" So he jumped up.
她开始尖叫：“你为什么要为我的食物祈祷？”于是他跳了起来。
This became a big scream.
这变成了一声巨大的尖叫声。
I said, "You," I told him, "Go down to your room and stay there until I tell you you can eat.
我说：“你，”我告诉他，“到你的房间去，呆在那里，直到我告诉你你可以吃饭了。
Don't you ever raise your hand to a woman again." And he did.
你以后不要再对女人举手了。”他做到了。
So that control came out of me at that point.
所以那时我的控制权就消失了。
I try not to do it because I find it very easy to do that.
我尽量不这样做，因为我发现这样做很容易。
I have two windows.
我有两个窗户。
And in one window is a t-shirt that says, "Free Chin." I wrote it with laundry marker.
其中一个橱窗里放着一件 T 恤，上面写着“Free Chin”。我用洗衣记号笔写的。
And in very small square print, it says, "Mind your own [BLEEP] business." That's if anyone asks me, "Who's the Chin?" If they don't know, that's it.
上面用很小的方形字体写着：“管好你自己的[BLEEP]闲事。”如果有人问我：“下巴是谁？”如果他们不知道，那就这样了。
I'm finished.
我完成了。
Theresa [?
特蕾莎[?
Mirable ?] in New York.
奇迹？]在纽约。
She spoke with Blue Chevigny and Joe Richman.
她与布鲁·切维尼和乔·里奇曼进行了交谈。
I'm 60 years old now.
我现在60岁了。
I've seen it all.
我已经看到了这一切。
And I want to tell about it.
我想讲述一下。
I want my book.
我想要我的书。
I want my HBO special.
我想要我的 HBO 特别节目。
Before Theresa, we heard Susan Berman, author of the book Easy Street, who we taped years ago.
在特蕾莎之前，我们听过苏珊·伯曼（Susan Berman），她是《轻松街》（Easy Street）一书的作者，我们几年前就录制了她的录音。
Since then, Berman was found dead in her apartment on Christmas Eve in the year 2000, killed by a single gunshot to the back of the head.
此后，2000年圣诞节前夕，伯曼被发现死在她的公寓里，死者是后脑中枪。
Police say the prime suspect in her murder is not affiliated with the mob.
警方表示，谋杀她的主要嫌疑人与该暴徒无关。
She was 55 years old at the time.
当时她55岁。
Act Three, Neighbors To The Mob.
第三幕，暴徒的邻居。
The mob, the traditional godfather, big city, Cosa Nostra, Robert De Niro-movie kind of mob has not been doing very well.
暴徒，传统的教父，大城市，科萨·诺斯特拉，罗伯特·德尼罗电影中的暴徒表现得不太好。
Vincent "Chin" Gigante, for example, tried to evade prison by spending years dressing like somebody incompetent to dress himself, peeing in public in a bathrobe, seeking the insanity defense, and failing.
例如，文森特·“钦”·吉甘特（Vincent“Chin”Gigante）试图逃避监狱，他花了数年的时间打扮得像个没有能力打扮自己的人，穿着浴袍在公共场合撒尿，寻求精神错乱辩护，但失败了。
Mafia expert Jerry Capeci is a columnist for The New York Sun.
黑手党专家杰里·卡佩西是《纽约太阳报》的专栏作家。
He also writes for the authoritative ganglandnews.com website.
他还为权威的ganglandnews.com 网站撰稿。
He's the author of several books about the mob, most recently The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Mafia.
他是多本有关黑帮的书籍的作者，最近的一本是《黑手党白痴完全指南》。
He says there are still 550 to 600 mobsters in New York.
他说纽约仍有 550 至 600 名歹徒。
But times are tough for them, mostly due to effective law enforcement.
但他们的日子很艰难，这主要是由于有效的执法。
Oh, there's no question about it.
噢，这是毫无疑问的。
The law enforcement efforts have gone a long way to remove the gangsters from the labor unions, from many industries where they ruled supreme.
执法部门在将这些歹徒从工会和他们统治的许多行业中清除方面已经取得了很大的进展。
Another problem that they're facing is these federal murder and racketeering indictments are putting more and more gangsters in prison for life.
他们面临的另一个问题是，这些联邦谋杀和敲诈勒索起诉书正在将越来越多的歹徒判处终身监禁。
And so that the Commission, the ruling body of the mob, has decreed a ban on sanctioned murders in the New York metropolitan area.
因此，暴民的统治机构委员会颁布了一项禁令，禁止在纽约大都市区进行经批准的谋杀。
No more sanctioned killings for years now.
多年来不再有经批准的杀戮。
The big guys don't want to do time for the murders, which raises the question, without killings, how will the mob stay the mob?
大人物不想为谋杀花时间，这就提出了一个问题，如果没有杀戮，暴徒将如何保持暴徒呢？
Capeci also says the mob faces an odd recruiting problem right now.
卡佩奇还表示，暴徒目前面临着一个奇怪的招募问题。
They don't want to bring in guys who will turn state evidence some day, as so many guys have.
他们不想引进那些有一天会成为国家证据的人，就像很多人一样。
But gotta bring in someone for the mob to survive.
但必须找人来让暴民生存。
It's not around anymore, but there used to be this magazine called Double Take.
现在已经不存在了，但是曾经有一本名为《Double Take》的杂志。
Anyway, in the fall 1997 issue, there's this great black-and-white photo.
不管怎样，在 1997 年秋季刊中，有一张很棒的黑白照片。
It is here.
它就在这里。
It is a bunch of middle-aged white guys on the sidewalk outside this nondescript brick building.
在这座不起眼的砖房外的人行道上，有一群中年白人。
The guys on the left side of the photo are just standing around laughing and smiling.
照片左边的人只是站在那里笑着。
And then there's this empty space, kind of a no man's land.
然后就是一片空旷的空间，有点像无人区。
And then right in the center of the photo, dressed in white pants, white shoes, white socks, and a striped, casual shirt, hair perfectly coiffed, looking smug, powerful, happy, is Mr. John Gotti, then head of the Gambino crime family.
照片正中央是时任甘比诺犯罪家族头目约翰·戈蒂先生，他穿着白裤、白鞋、白袜和条纹休闲衬衫，头发梳得整整齐齐，看上去得意洋洋、强大而快乐。
Then as we scan, continuing our scan from left to right across the picture, there's another empty space, another no man's land.
然后，当我们扫描时，继续从左到右扫描整个图片，出现另一个空白区域，另一个无人区。
And then nearly the entire right side of the photo, like 1/3 of this image, is this guy who is walking toward the camera in the most menacing possible way.
然后照片的几乎整个右侧，比如这张图片的 1/3，都是这个人以最具威胁性的方式走向镜头。
He's so close that he's out of focus.
他离得太近了，以至于他失去了焦点。
He takes up like 1/3 of the page, looking pretty much exactly like an angry Joe Pesci.
他占据了页面的 1/3，看起来非常像愤怒的乔·佩西。
Reaching toward the camera, his finger is nearly on the lens of the camera.
他把手伸向相机，手指几乎就在相机的镜头上。
The name of this tiny, unglamorous building in the photo?
照片中这座不起眼的小建筑叫什么名字？
It is still is on Mulberry Street at the corner of Prince Street.
它仍然位于王子街拐角处的桑树街。
That is, in little Italy, in New York City.
那是在小意大利，在纽约市。
Forget the gorgeous, brown-roomed house in The Godfather movie.
忘记《教父》电影中那座华丽的棕色房间的房子吧。
This was John Gotti's clubhouse.
这是约翰·高蒂的俱乐部会所。
Alec Wilkinson is a staff writer for The New Yorker magazine.
亚历克·威尔金森是《纽约客》杂志的特约撰稿人。
His wife took the picture.
他的妻子拍下了这张照片。
And he, himself, had a special connection to the club.
他本人也与俱乐部有着特殊的联系。
For seven years, beginning in 1979, I lived across the street from the club on the fifth floor of 250 Mulberry Street, a tenement.
从 1979 年开始，我在俱乐部对面的桑树街 250 号公寓的五楼住了七年。
I looked down on the club and on the broad, flat roof of a garage next door.
我俯视着俱乐部和隔壁车库宽阔平坦的屋顶。
In a corner of the garage was a live poultry market.
车库的一角是一个活禽市场。
The name of the market was written in Chinese characters.
市场的名字是用汉字写的。
Chinese women shopped there and old Italian women in black, who communicated by means of gestures with the Chinese men in white aprons covered with feathers and blood.
中国妇女在那里购物，身穿黑衣的意大利老妇人通过手势与穿着沾满羽毛和血迹的白色围裙的中国男子进行交流。
I always said hello to any of the Ravenites I passed on the sidewalk or saw standing in the doorway.
我总是向在人行道上经过或在门口看到的任何拉文教徒打招呼。
But none of them ever said anything to me or even acted as if he had heard me.
但他们都没有对我说过任何话，甚至没有表现得好像他听到了我的声音。
I was never invited into the club either.
我也从未被邀请进入俱乐部。
But from the street, when the doors were open, I could see a bar and an espresso machine.
但从街上，当门打开时，我可以看到一家酒吧和一台浓缩咖啡机。
Across from the bar were tables, and chairs, and, beyond them, a back room with a television on a shelf.
酒吧对面有桌子和椅子，桌子后面是一间后面的房间，架子上放着一台电视。
I lived in the apartment for nearly a year before I learned that the sullen and irritable-looking men, who came and went from the club and sat at the tables, playing cards with smudges of ash on their foreheads on Ash Wednesday, were gangsters.
我在公寓里住了将近一年，才知道在圣灰星期三这一天，那些从俱乐部进进出出、坐在桌子旁、额头上沾满灰烬的、表情阴沉、脾气暴躁的男人都是黑帮。
My building belonged to a Buddhist monk in Hong Kong.
我的大楼属于香港一位佛教僧人。
A woman named Susan held the lease on my apartment.
一位名叫苏珊的女士持有我公寓的租约。
She was a performance artist.
她是一位行为艺术家。
The apartment had become available as a result of the response to a piece she had recently given in the living room, called "Why Don't You Come Up And See Me Sometime?" She had advertised the piece on posters she'd taped to walls and light poles around the neighborhood.
由于她最近在客厅发表的一篇题为“你为什么不找个时间来见我？”的文章得到了回应，这套公寓才得以出租。她在附近的墙壁和灯杆上贴了海报，为这件作品做广告。
On the evening of the performance, the audience gathered on the sidewalk outside the building.
演出当晚，观众聚集在大楼外的人行道上。
A friend of Susan's brought them upstairs.
苏珊的一个朋友把他们带上楼。
When they walked in the apartment, they saw Susan, a pretty good-looking woman, lying on her side with her chin in one hand, buck naked on a slowly turning platform.
当他们走进公寓时，他们看到苏珊，一个相当漂亮的女人，单手托着下巴，侧身躺在一个缓慢转动的平台上。
She had dyed her brown hair jet black, and she had an absent look in her eyes.
她把棕色的头发染成黑色，眼神空洞。
Several culture hounds from the social club attended.
社交俱乐部的几位文化爱好者参加了。
And a few days after, the club extended to Susan an invitation to leave the neighborhood.
几天后，俱乐部向苏珊发出了离开社区的邀请。
The invitation was delivered by a functionary who crowbarred the door of her apartment off its hinges one afternoon while Susan was out and left the rest of the apartment undisturbed.
一天下午，苏珊外出时，一位工作人员将邀请函从铰链上撬开，并没有打扰公寓的其他部分。
It was not her first mistake.
这不是她第一次犯错。
She lived alone and had friends come and go at all hours, some of them men, which had led members of the club to conclude that she was a prostitute.
她独自生活，随时都有朋友来来去去，其中一些是男性，这导致俱乐部成员得出结论，她是一名妓女。
I had been living in Wellfleet, Massachusetts, on Cape Cod.
我一直住在马萨诸塞州韦尔弗利特的科德角。
Susan and I visited the Chinese agent who managed the building, and she told him that she was leaving the city and wanted to turn the apartment over to me, her cousin.
苏珊和我拜访了管理这栋大楼的中国经纪人，她告诉他她要离开这座城市，想把公寓交给我，她的表弟。
I signed the lease and paid her $3,000, which was illegal.
我签了租约并付给她3000美元，这是非法的。
Then I went back to Cape Cod, and loaded my possessions into my car, and drove to New York, and parked in front of the social club.
然后我回到科德角，把我的东西装进车里，开车去纽约，把车停在社交俱乐部门口。
A man came out as I was carrying a chair, and told me to move the car.
当我拿着椅子时，一个男人走了出来，让我把车移开。
I assumed I was parked illegally and that he was giving me some friendly, welcome-wagon-type advice.
我以为我违章停车，他正在给我一些友好的、欢迎马车式的建议。
Then I read the parking sign on the light pole, and saw that I was legal, and said, "Thanks, it's OK." Another man came out of the club, and they started arguing.
然后我看了灯杆上的停车标志，发现我是合法的，就说：“谢谢，没关系。”另一个男人从俱乐部里出来，他们开始争吵。
I heard the second man, say, "It's all right.
我听到第二个人说：“没关系。
It's all right.
没关系。
He's Susan's cousin." I don't know who he heard that from.
他是苏珊的表弟。”我不知道他是从谁那里听来的。
The man who had told me to move said, "I don't give a damn who he is."
那个让我搬走的人说：“我才不在乎他是谁呢。”
After I finished unloading my car, I drove over to the river, and drank some beers, and watched the sun go down over New Jersey.
卸完车后，我开车到河边，喝了一些啤酒，看着太阳在新泽西西沉。
And when I came back, another car was parked in front of the club.
当我回来时，另一辆车停在俱乐部前面。
The next morning, on my way to breakfast, I saw that the windshield, and windows, and headlights of the car had been shattered.
第二天早上，在去吃早餐的路上，我看到汽车的挡风玻璃、窗户和前灯都被打碎了。
The Ravenites kept a doberman named Duke.
拉文人养了一只杜宾犬，名叫杜克。
During the day, Duke paced in front of the club and the garage.
白天，杜克在俱乐部和车库前踱步。
And at night, he slept in the club.
晚上，他就睡在俱乐部里。
A short, fat guy named Mike looked after him.
一个名叫迈克的矮胖男人照顾他。
The garage belonged to a trucking company that hauled bananas and pineapples from the Brooklyn docks.
该车库属于一家卡车运输公司，该公司从布鲁克林码头运输香蕉和菠萝。
Mike's job was to watch the door.
迈克的工作是看门。
This was not a complicated job.
这并不是一项复杂的工作。
Trucks came and went from the garage at the rate of about one every other day.
卡车以大约每隔一天一辆的速度从车库进出。
Mike's position with the club was obscure.
迈克在俱乐部的地位并不明确。
The lowest level of association seemed to be occupied by men in their 20s, mean-looking types with wiry bodies and spiteful, ratty faces.
最低层次的交往对象似乎是20多岁的男性，他们长相卑鄙，身体精瘦，面容恶毒、龌龊。
The more prestigious Ravenites arrived at the club in fancy, black cars.
更有声望的拉文派乘坐豪华的黑色汽车抵达俱乐部。
They left the cars on the sidewalk.
他们把车停在人行道上。
And the young men ran out of the garage with sponges and buckets of water and washed the cars while the gangsters were visiting the club.
当歹徒参观俱乐部时，年轻人拿着海绵和水桶跑出车库清洗汽车。
Mike never washed the cars.
迈克从不洗车。
He was clearly above that.
他显然高于此。
But he never spent much time inside the club either.
但他也从未在俱乐部呆过太多时间。
Now and then, taking pains to emphasize his importance, he would say things, such as, "Kind of friends I have, you need a job done, they do it.
他时不时地煞费苦心地强调自己的重要性，他会说这样的话，“我有一些朋友，你需要完成一项工作，他们就会做到。
Then they go to Italy for a while." One day, the doberman was gone.
然后他们去意大利一段时间。”有一天，杜宾犬不见了。
After that, when the club closed at night, an old man stood in the passageway, smoking cigarettes.
之后，夜店关门时，一位老人站在通道里抽烟。
In addition to Mike, I was acquainted with a dark-haired, round-faced, slightly fleshy, and sinister-looking young man of about 30 named Norman.
除了麦克之外，我还认识了一位黑发、圆脸、微胖、面容阴森的三十岁左右的年轻人，名叫诺曼。
I often saw Norman behind the bar, and I assumed he was the Ravenite's bartender.
我经常在酒吧后面看到诺曼，我以为他是拉文尼特酒吧的调酒师。
Norman and Mike had an interest in a flock of pigeons that were kept in a coup on the roof above my apartment.
诺曼和迈克对我公寓屋顶上的一群鸽子很感兴趣。
For a while after I first moved in, I would hear a knock on the door.
刚搬进来不久，我就听见有人敲门。
And I would open it to find Norman holding a plastic bucket.
我打开它，发现诺曼拿着一个塑料桶。
"He needed water for the birds," he said.
“他需要水给鸟儿喝，”他说。
While the bucket was filling in my bathtub, he would look around the apartment and ask what I did for a living.
当水桶装满我的浴缸时，他会环视公寓并问我以什么为生。
I had to have it explained to me by a neighbor, who lived down the hall, that Norman didn't need water.
我必须让住在大厅那头的邻居向我解释诺曼不需要水。
He was making sure on behalf of the Ravenites that I was not a cop.
他代表拉文派确认我不是警察。
During the first year that I lived in the apartment, people would tell me that the Ravenites were the Mafia, and I didn't believe them.
在我住在公寓的第一年，人们会告诉我拉文派是黑手党，但我不相信他们。
I thought they looked like people who wished they were in the Mafia, but didn't have the nerve or the intelligence or know the right people.
我认为他们看起来像是希望加入黑手党的人，但没有勇气或智慧或认识合适的人。
For one thing, they seemed easily frightened.
一方面，他们似乎很容易受到惊吓。
Whenever one of them had a dispute with a bicycle messenger or a delivery guy, he ran into the club or the garage for a wrench, or a tire iron, or a piece of lead pipe.
每当他们中的一个人与自行车送信人或送货员发生争执时，他就会跑进俱乐部或车库去拿扳手、轮胎熨斗或一根铅管。
Then he came back with three or four friends.
然后他带着三四个朋友回来了。
The kids in the neighborhood had the same bullying streak.
附近的孩子也有同样的欺凌行为。
I often saw boys, wearing the blue sweaters and dark ties of the Catholic school around the corner, ambush drunks who wandered over from the Bowery.
我经常看到街角天主教学校的男孩们穿着蓝色毛衣，系着深色领带，伏击从包厘街晃悠过来的醉汉。
They set upon the frail, ragged figures like pack dogs.
他们像驮狗一样袭击那些虚弱、衣衫褴褛的人。
And when they had beaten the drunk to his knees, they ran away.
当他们把醉汉打倒在地后，他们就逃跑了。
One morning after I had lived in the apartment for about a year, I learned what had happened to the doberman, and also why the windshield and the windows of the car had been shattered.
我在公寓里住了大约一年后的一天早上，我了解到杜宾犬发生了什么事，以及汽车的挡风玻璃和车窗被打碎的原因。
A story on the front page of the New York Times said that the police had managed to hide microphones inside the club.
《纽约时报》头版报道称，警方已成功将麦克风隐藏在俱乐部内。
The microphones had been in place only briefly before they were discovered and ripped out by the intended targets of the surveillance, the paper said.
该报称，这些麦克风只放置了很短一段时间，然后就被监视目标发现并撕掉了。
The conversations the police overheard had covered, quote, "numerous organized crime activities," unquote.
警方无意中听到的对话涵盖了“许多有组织的犯罪活动”（未引述）。
Among the Ravenites who were indicted as a result was Norman, who was identified as Norman Dupont of 32 Monroe Street.
诺曼是因此被起诉的拉文派成员之一，他被确认为来自门罗街 32 号的诺曼·杜邦 (Norman Dupont)。
He and the others were offered immunity and then, of course, sent to jail for contempt since none of them would say anything.
他和其他人获得了豁免权，然后，当然，他们因藐视法庭而被送进监狱，因为他们都不会说什么。
Norman was there for a year.
诺曼在那里呆了一年。
He left the flock of pigeons in the care of some high school kids who showed up only occasionally, and most of the pigeons died.
他把鸽子群留给了一些高中生，他们只是偶尔出现，大多数鸽子都死了。
The day the story was published, television reporters arrived to film dispatches in front of the club.
报道发表当天，电视台记者来到俱乐部前拍摄报道。
A group of kids stood around them.
一群孩子站在他们周围。
Each time a reporter opened his mouth to speak into his microphone, the kids banged trash can lids together like cymbals.
每当记者张开嘴对着麦克风讲话时，孩子们就会像敲铙钹一样敲击垃圾桶盖。
Eventually, the reporters got back into their cars and drove off except for one reporter who paid the kids to be quiet.
最终，记者们回到车里开走了，除了一名记者付钱让孩子们保持安静。
It turned out that I had parked in front of the social club on the day after the Ravenites had discovered that the police had been parking cars in the space where I had left mine.
原来，拉文派发现警察把车停在我停车的地方的第二天，我就把车停在了社交俱乐部前面。
As a matter of routine, the Ravenites assumed that there were microphones in their clubhouse.
按照惯例，拉文派认为他们的俱乐部会所里有麦克风。
So when they had something important to talk about, they went outside.
所以当他们有重要的事情要谈时，他们就出去了。
Often, they leaned against the car, and, in the trunk of the car, was a cop who was listening to the gangsters' conversation.
常常，他们靠在车上，车后备箱里坐着一名警察，正在听歹徒的谈话。
Sometimes, the gangsters leaned against the light pole which had a microphone in it.
有时，歹徒靠在灯杆上，灯杆上装有麦克风。
That the doberman never woke up from the tranquilizers the police have given him so that they could plant the microphones came out in the court records.
法庭记录显示，警方给杜宾犬注射了镇定剂，以便安装麦克风，但杜宾犬始终没有醒来。
The police misjudged the dose they gave the dog and said they felt bad about it.
警方错误判断了给狗注射的剂量，并表示他们对此感到很难过。
I often give a copy of the photograph of the Ravenites social club to friends as a present.
我经常将 Ravenites 社交俱乐部的照片作为礼物送给朋友。
My wife, a photographer, took it one afternoon in the spring just after John Gotti had been acquitted in the last trial that he would win.
我的妻子是一名摄影师，她在春天的一个下午拍摄了这张照片，当时约翰·戈蒂在他最终获胜的最后一场审判中被无罪释放。
By then, I no longer lived on Mulberry Street.
那时我已经不住在桑树街了。
My wife had a studio on the Bowery, and she was walking to the subway when she saw Gotti.
我妻子在包厘街有一间工作室，当她看到戈蒂时，她正步行去地铁。
Gotti had become commander in chief of the Gambino family, whose headquarters the Ravenites club was, by having the former commander killed.
戈蒂杀死了甘比诺家族的前任指挥官，成为拉文派俱乐部总部所在的甘比诺家族的总司令。
She pretended to be a tourist and asked if she could take his picture.
她假装成游客并询问是否可以给他拍照。
She took three.
她拿了三个。
And the guy on the right is saying, "Enough." Without looking at her, Gotti said, "Don't sell them," something that had not occurred to her.
右边的人说：“够了。”高蒂没有看她一眼，说道：“不要卖掉它们。”她没有想到这一点。
She went to a pay phone and called the New York Post and told them she had a picture of Gotti outside the Ravenite social club.
她用公用电话给《纽约邮报》打电话，告诉他们她有一张高蒂在 Ravenite 社交俱乐部外面的照片。
The man who answered said, "You took it with a long lens, right?" She said, no, she had walked right up to him.
接电话的人说：“你是用长焦镜头拍的吧？”她说，不，她径直走到他面前。
There was a pause.
一阵停顿。
The man told her to bring the picture right away.
男人让她马上把照片带来。
He said that the paper had a way of paying her so that no one would know her name.
他说该报有一种支付她报酬的方式，这样就没有人知道她的名字。
That was when she decided not to publish it.
就在那时，她决定不发表它。
On the Fourth of July, Norman, and Mike, and some other Ravenites would fill wheelbarrows with fireworks, and dump them in the intersection of Mulberry and Prince, outside my building, and pour gasoline on the pile, and the flames would shoot up and blister the paint on the stoplight.
七月四日，诺曼、迈克和其他一些拉文派教徒会用独轮手推车装满烟花，然后将它们倾倒在我大楼外的桑树和普林斯路口，然后将汽油倒在堆上，火焰就会窜起，使红绿灯上的油漆起泡。
Bottle rockets would rise to my window and throw off sparks.
瓶子火箭会升到我的窗户上并抛出火花。
And the air would smell like gunpowder.
空气中弥漫着火药味。
Meanwhile, other Ravenites would light cherry bombs and M-80s, and toss them into garbage cans, and throw the lids on the cans.
与此同时，其他Ravenites会点燃樱桃炸弹和M-80，然后将它们扔进垃圾桶，然后盖上垃圾桶的盖子。
The fireworks would rip the seams on the cans and throw the lids into the air.
烟花会撕裂罐子上的接缝，并将盖子抛向空中。
And the explosion would rattle the frames of my windows and make my ears ring.
爆炸会震碎我的窗框，让我的耳朵嗡嗡作响。
One year, some friends were having dinner with me, and their young son was with us.
有一年，一些朋友和我一起吃饭，他们的小儿子和我们在一起。
And the sparks from the bottle rockets coming in the windows and the flashes of light upset him.
瓶子火箭发出的火花从窗户射进来，还有闪光，让他心烦意乱。
"The nerves in my skin are hurting," he said.
“我皮肤上的神经很痛，”他说。
I called the police.
我报了警。
"The Mafia guys at the Ravenite social club are setting off fireworks," I said.
“Ravenite 社交俱乐部的黑手党成员正在放烟花，”我说。
And the cops said, "There's no such thing as the Mafia."
警察说：“没有黑手党这样的东西。”
Alec Wilkinson.
亚历克·威尔金森.
His latest book is Mr. Apology and Other Essays.
他的最新著作是《道歉先生和其他论文》。
Well, our program was produced today by Julie Snyder and myself with Alix Spiegel and Nancy Updike.
嗯，我们今天的节目是由朱莉·斯奈德和我、阿利克斯·斯皮格尔和南希·厄普代克制作的。
Our senior editor for this show was Paul Tough.
我们这个节目的高级编辑是保罗·托夫（Paul Tough）。
Contributing editors Jack Hitt, Margy Rochlin, and Consigliere Sarah Vowell.
特约编辑 Jack Hitt、Margy Rochlin 和 Consigliere Sarah Vowell。
Our staff includes Alex Blumberg, Diane Cook, Jane Feltes, Sarah Koenig, Amy O'Leary, and Lisa Pollak.
我们的员工包括 Alex Blumberg、Diane Cook、Jane Feltes、Sarah Koenig、Amy O'Leary 和 Lisa Pollak。
Production help from Sam Hallgren and Chris Ladd.
Sam Hallgren 和 Chris Ladd 为制作提供帮助。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] Our website, www.thisamericanlife.org, where you still have a couple days left to do your Christmas shopping, and where you can also listen to our programs for absolutely free any day of the year.
[鸣谢] 我们的网站 www.thisamericanlife.org，您还有几天时间进行圣诞购物，并且您还可以在一年中的任何一天免费收听我们的节目。
Or you know, can download today's program in our archives at audible.com/thisamericanlife.
或者您知道，可以在我们的档案库中下载今天的节目：audible.com/thisamericanlife。
This American Life is brought to you by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台为您带来。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight for our program by Mr. Torey Malatia, who describes the This American Life staff this way.
[资金来源] Torey Malatia 先生对 WBEZ 项目进行管理监督，他这样描述了 This American Life 的员工。
Mean-looking types with wiry bodies and spiteful, ratty faces.
外表卑鄙的类型，有着精瘦的身体和恶毒、肮脏的面孔。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。