751: Audience of One - This American Life

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Prologue: Prologue Ira Glass I know so many people who have films that they have watched over and over, and I have never really gotten that.

序言：序言 艾拉·格拉斯 我认识很多人，他们的电影都看过一遍又一遍，但我却从未真正明白这一点。

I always feel like there are so many films that I haven't seen, why would I watch one again?

我总觉得有那么多电影没看过，为什么还要看一遍呢？

But we get into these conversations.

但我们开始进行这些对话。

And there always comes a moment where I'm asked, well, what is the film that you've seen the most?

总有那么一刻我会被问到，你看过最多的电影是什么？

And then I have to admit, it's The Poseidon Adventure, which I know is not a good film.

然后我不得不承认，这是《海神历险记》，我知道这不是一部好电影。

It's this '70s movie about an ocean liner that gets hit by a tsunami, flips upside down, and the passengers try to make their way to safety.

这是一部 70 年代的电影，讲述了一艘远洋客轮遭遇海啸，船体翻转，乘客们试图逃生的故事。

It's part of an entire genre of films, disaster films, that have never gotten any respect.

它是整个类型的电影、灾难片的一部分，但从未得到任何尊重。

Nobody thinks of these films as art.

没有人认为这些电影是艺术。

But I loved it at the time when I saw it.

但我当时看到的时候就很喜欢。

It felt big, and it felt important and serious.

它感觉很大，感觉很重要而且很严肃。

And I remember it was very emotional.

我记得那是非常激动人心的。

And the reason that I saw it so many times, that this is the film that I saw more than any other, was not because I loved the film.

我之所以看了很多次，这是我比其他任何电影都看得多的电影，并不是因为我喜欢这部电影。

It's because of where I saw it.

这是因为我在哪里看到的。

I was on vacation.

我当时正在度假。

We didn't take many vacations when I was a kid, but on one of them, we stayed at this hotel in Florida where the rooms had this thing where they offered a couple of movies all day long.

当我还是个孩子的时候，我们没有去过很多假期，但其中一次，我们住在佛罗里达州的一家酒店，房间里有这样的东西，他们全天提供几部电影。

And this was so long ago in the 1970s.

这已经是很久以前的 20 世纪 70 年代了。

My sisters and I, we had never seen anything like that.

我和我的姐妹们，我们从未见过这样的事情。

Even cable TV was rare back then.

那时连有线电视都很少见。

The Poseidon Adventure was the film that they offered.

《波塞冬历险记》是他们提供的电影。

And my sister, Karen, and I we ate it up.

我和姐姐凯伦把它吃光了。

That was the movie we watched over and over again, yeah.

那是我们看了一遍又一遍的电影，是的。

That's Karen and her son, Zach, my nephew, who we tried to explain this to recently.

那是凯伦和她的儿子扎克，我的侄子，我们最近试图向他们解释这一点。

So we ended up watching it on TV at night, if our parents went out to dinner, or if it was a rainy day.

所以，如果我们的父母出去吃饭，或者是下雨天，我们最终会在晚上看电视。

Yeah, we loved it.

是的，我们喜欢它。

The way that I remember it is that the hotel just had this movie on a loop.

我记得酒店刚刚循环播放这部电影。

And it would just, as soon as it would finish, it would start again.

一旦结束，它就会重新开始。

And the way I remember it is that every time we would come into the hotel room, you could turn on the TV, and you'd be somewhere in The Poseidon Adventure.

我记得每次我们走进酒店房间，你只要打开电视，你就会身处《海神历险记》中的某个地方。

That sounds vaguely familiar to me.

这对我来说听起来有点熟悉。

I don't totally remember that, but that might be right, yeah.

我不太记得了，但这可能是对的，是的。

And I remember it having a lot of feeling.

我记得它有很多感觉。

Do you remember it having a lot of feeling?

你还记得它有很多感觉吗？

What does that mean, having a lot of feeling?

有很多感觉是什么意思？

Like, eliciting--

比如，引发——

Yeah, well, it's scary.

是的，好吧，这很可怕。

And you're really invested in their journey to escape alive.

你真的很投入他们的逃亡之旅。

I don't think I'm giving anything away by saying that.

我不认为我这样说会泄露任何东西。

Sort of are.

有点是。

Ira Glass Here at the radio show these last few weeks, we've been talking about the random films that people have strong attachments to, thinking that might be a good episode of the show.

Ira Glass 在过去几周的广播节目中，我们一直在谈论人们有强烈依恋的随机电影，认为这可能是节目中的一个好片段。

And I started to think about The Poseidon Adventure.

我开始思考波塞冬历险记。

And I wondered what it would be like to see it again.

我想知道再次看到它会是什么样子。

Would it have any feeling?

会不会有什么感觉呢？

Would any of it feel the way it did to me as a kid?

这些感觉是否会像我小时候一样？

Would it feel that way to Karen?

凯伦也会有这样的感觉吗？

So my sister and I, we watched it.

所以我和我姐姐一起观看了它。

And I invited Zach too, since he's the age that we were when we watched it back in the '70s.

我也邀请了扎克，因为他的年龄和我们 70 年代看这部电影时的年龄一样。

He's 13.

他13岁了。

I was 14 at the time.

当时我14岁。

Karen was 11.

凯伦 11 岁。

And I want to say, I did not expect Zach to like it.

我想说，我没想到扎克会喜欢它。

He does not like a lot of films.

他不喜欢很多电影。

And right away, the very first scene let us know the kind of film we were in for.

很快，第一个场景就让我们知道了我们要观看的电影类型。

A little boy visits the bridge of the SS Poseidon, this ocean liner in the middle of a big storm.

一个小男孩参观了SS波塞冬号的舰桥，这艘远洋客轮正处于一场大风暴中。

And the little boy is greeted by the captain, who's played by Leslie Nielsen-- who, at this point, had not made the career transition to parodying characters like this captain.

小男孩受到了由莱斯利·尼尔森扮演的船长的欢迎——此时，他还没有完成职业生涯的过渡，模仿像这位船长这样的角色。

Mr. Shelby, you've picked a particularly fascinating moment to accept my invitation.

谢尔比先生，您选择了一个特别迷人的时刻来接受我的邀请。

These waves don't bother you, huh?

这些波浪不会打扰你，是吧？

I've surfed up to 18 feet, but these look more like 30.

我曾冲浪过 18 英尺，但这些看起来更像是 30 英尺。

35, to be exact.

准确地说是35。

Shelby Wow, surf's really up.

谢尔比 哇，冲浪真是太棒了。

Those lines.

那些线条。

So cheesy.

太俗气了。

Ira Glass I didn't remember how wincey the acting got in some places.

艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：我不记得某些地方的表演有多么怯懦。

When Ernest Borgnine shows up, it's clear that the 1956 Oscar winner for Best Actor is not in one of his best roles.

当欧内斯特·博格宁 (Ernest Borgnine) 出现时，很明显这位 1956 年奥斯卡最佳男主角奖得主并不是在扮演他最好的角色之一。

Linda, you hear me Zach Why is he so angry?

琳达，你听到了吗扎克他为什么这么生气？

Borgnine does seem to shout nearly every one of his lines in the film.

博格宁似乎确实喊出了他在电影中的每一句台词。

One thing that kind of stunned me and I did not expect, seeing the film again, was how much of the dialogue I remember from decades ago.

有一件事让我震惊，我没想到，再次看这部电影时，我记得有多少几十年前的对话。

And I was also surprised to realize-- and I do not know what this says about me-- the lines that I remember the most are the little comic zingers, like when a crew member is asked if he's married, I know his corny response before he says it.

我还惊讶地发现——我不知道这对我来说意味着什么——我记得最多的台词是一些滑稽的小笑话，比如当一名船员被问到他是否结婚时，我在他说之前就知道他的老生常谈的反应。

No marriage for me, Mrs. Rosen.

我不适合结婚，罗森太太。

I've got a mistress.

我有一个情妇。

Hey, that's good.

嘿，那很好。

Ira Glass Something I did remember, and remember liking from the film, was that this was an old-fashioned enough movie that the producers tried to insert some big ideas into the adventure, so it would all mean something.

艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：我确实记得并且记得喜欢这部电影，那就是这是一部足够老式的电影，制片人试图在冒险中插入一些大创意，所以这一切都会有意义。

These big ideas are provided by Gene Hackman, who plays a rebellious young priest in a turtleneck, whose big theological idea is a very conveniently helpful one for people who are about to be capsized in the middle of the ocean.

这些伟大的想法是由吉恩·哈克曼提供的，他扮演一位穿着高领毛衣的叛逆的年轻牧师，他的伟大的神学思想对于那些即将在大海中翻船的人来说是一个非常方便的帮助。

God doesn't want you to wait for miracles.

上帝不希望你等待奇迹。

You have to take matters into your own hands.

你必须把事情掌握在自己手中。

Don't pray to God to solve your problems.

不要祈求上帝解决你的问题。

This is from a sermon he delivers early in the film.

这是他在影片开头的一次布道。

Have the guts to fight for yourself.

有勇气为自己而战。

God wants brave souls.

上帝想要勇敢的灵魂。

He wants winners, not quitters.

他想要的是胜利者，而不是放弃者。

If you can't win, at least try to win.

如果你不能赢，至少尝试去赢。

He comes back to this over and over through the film, rallying the passengers to fight on.

他在影片中一遍又一遍地回到这一点，号召乘客继续战斗。

I loved that as a teenager, that there was this idealistic guy with this principle that he's trying to live by and this idea about God that the film is testing.

我十几岁的时候就喜欢这个理想主义的家伙，他努力遵循这个原则，并且电影正在测试关于上帝的想法。

And I have to say, seeing it today, I still loved it, that they put that in there.

我不得不说，今天看到它，我仍然喜欢它，他们把它放在那里。

Anyway, soon enough, right at the stroke of midnight on New Year's Eve, the tsunami hits, the boat flips, the plot line tips.

不管怎样，很快，就在除夕夜午夜钟声敲响的时候，海啸袭来，船翻了，剧情也发生了倾斜。

In the wreckage of the upside down New Year's party, Gene Hackman convinces only eight passengers that they shouldn't stay and wait for God to send rescuers, but climb with him to safety.

在颠倒的新年派对的废墟中，吉恩·哈克曼只说服了八名乘客，他们不应该留下来等待上帝派出救援人员，而应该和他一起爬到安全的地方。

Now, please, for God's sake, come with me.

现在，看在上帝的份上，请跟我来。

They creep from deck to deck, barely escaping the rising water as they go.

他们从一个甲板爬到另一个甲板，一路上险些逃离不断上涨的海水。

The ceilings of the rooms are the floors that they walk on, and the floors are the ceilings.

房间的天花板就是他们行走的地板，地板就是天花板。

There's a fiery upside-down kitchen.

有一个火热的颠倒厨房。

They go up slippery ladders and inverted staircases.

他们爬上湿滑的梯子和倒转的楼梯。

And by the time they start dying, one by one, for Karen and me and even Zach, it's no joke.

当他们开始一一死去时，对于凯伦和我，甚至扎克来说，这可不是开玩笑。

We're in it.

我们就在其中。

We care.

我们关心。

Zach Did she just have a heart attack?

扎克 她刚刚心脏病发作吗？

Wait, did she just have a heart attack?

等等，她刚刚心脏病发作了吗？

Yes.

是的。

Zach Wow.

扎克 哇。

That's a pretty random heart attack.

这是一次非常随机的心脏病发作。

Not really.

并不真地。

Think about the fact that she just did all that swimming and she's out of shape.

想想她刚刚游了那么多泳，身材就走样了。

After Mrs. Rosen, the menschy grandma in the film dies.

罗森夫人之后，电影中的善良奶奶也去世了。

Her husband discovers her dead body.

她的丈夫发现了她的尸体。

I remember this too, really well.

我也记得这个，记得很清楚。

This was very affecting.

这非常有影响力。

I've been really invested in this movie.

我对这部电影真的很投入。

It's sort of good.

这有点不错。

You do feel very invested?

你觉得自己很有投入吗？

Zach Yeah, it's like I'm not sure what's going to happen next, unlike most other movies.

扎克：是的，就像我不确定接下来会发生什么，与大多数其他电影不同。

I'd wondered if Zach was going to feel the same big feelings that I felt for the film at his age.

我想知道扎克是否会和我在他这个年纪对这部电影有同样的感受。

And he totally did.

他完全做到了。

By the time we get to Gene Hackman's big climactic speech to God--

当我们听到吉恩·哈克曼向上帝发表的高潮演讲时——

What more do you want of us?

您还想要我们什么？

We've come all this way, no thanks to you.

我们走了这么远，还不是谢谢你。

--it was clear The Poseidon Adventure, it does its job.

——很明显，《波塞冬历险记》完成了它的任务。

It gets to you.

它会传给你。

But thinking about the experience that Zach had watching the film and the one that I was having, it's so different, right?

但想想扎克观看这部电影的经历和我的经历，这是非常不同的，对吧？

For me, it was like walking into a room from my childhood home and finding it intact and exactly how I remembered it.

对我来说，这就像走进我童年家的一个房间，发现它完好无损，和我记忆中的一模一样。

Or we would get to a scene and I would remember things I didn't realize I remembered.

或者我们会看到一个场景，我会记住一些我没有意识到我记得的事情。

Is there even a name for that?

有这个名字吗？

When we watch a movie together, we think we're watching the same thing, but we are not.

当我们一起看电影时，我们以为我们在看同一部电影，但事实并非如此。

For me, The Poseidon Adventure is a portal back to that vacation and being in that hotel room with Karen and knowing those movie stars from other things they made and just that whole time in my life.

对我来说，《波塞冬历险记》是回到那个假期的门户，和凯伦一起在酒店房间里，通过他们制作的其他东西了解那些电影明星，以及我一生中的那段时间。

I can't show Zach that movie.

我不能给扎克看那部电影。

Well, from WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.

嗯，来自 WBEZ 芝加哥，这是《This American Life》。

I'm Ira Glass.

我是艾拉·格拉斯。

Today on our program, we're at a point in the pandemic where so many of us are still not going out to movie theaters.

今天在我们的节目中，我们正处于大流行的关键时刻，我们中的许多人仍然没有去电影院。

And we thought, here at our show, let's do a movie night.

我们想，在我们的演出中，我们来举办一个电影之夜吧。

Let's do a show about movies.

我们来做一个关于电影的节目吧。

And in particular, we decided to get people who have watched a film over and over, who see something in it that most people do not see, films for which they are an audience of one.

特别是，我们决定让那些一遍又一遍地观看一部电影、在其中看到大多数人看不到的东西的人成为他们的观众。

These are stories about how we connect to films sometimes very deeply, but sometimes in very strange and random ways.

这些故事讲述了我们如何与电影建立联系，有时非常深入，但有时却以非常奇怪和随意的方式。

Stay with us.

留在我们身边。

Act One, "Many a Thing She Ought to Understand." One of our producers, Diane Wu, spent most of her life thinking that she did not have a unique and personal take on the film The Sound of Music.

第一幕，“很多事情她应该理解”。我们的制片人之一吴黛安 (Diane Wu) 一生大部分时间都认为自己对电影《音乐之声》没有独特的个人看法。

The Sound of Music-- after all, everybody loves it.

音乐之声——毕竟，每个人都喜欢它。

What's there to say?

有什么可说的？

And then she learned, no, her take is very different.

然后她意识到，不，她的看法非常不同。

I watched The Sound of Music all the time as a kid.

我小时候一直看音乐之声。

It was one of maybe six VHS tapes we had at home, along with Bambi and 101 Dalmatians.

这是我们家里大概有六盘 VHS 录像带之一，另外两盘还有《小鹿斑比》和《101 斑点狗》。

And a few years ago, I was talking with a friend about how much I loved the movie growing up.

几年前，我和一位朋友谈论我在成长过程中是多么喜欢这部电影。

And he said, me too, though the Nazis scared me.

他说，我也是，尽管纳粹吓到了我。

And I said, what Nazis?

我说，什么纳粹？

And that's when I learned I'd never seen the second half of the film.

就在那时我才知道我从未看过电影的后半部分。

It turns out the movie came out in a two VHS box set.

事实证明，这部电影是以两套 VHS 盒装形式发行的。

And I, for some reason, had only ever seen the first tape.

而我，出于某种原因，只看过第一盘磁带。

My dad doesn't remember a second tape either.

我爸爸也不记得第二盘磁带了。

And why would you need one?

为什么你需要一个？

The first half makes perfect sense on its own.

前半部分本身就很有意义。

Here's the plot.

这是情节。

It's a movie about a woman named Maria, who is sent to the countryside to babysit a giant family of children with a mean dad, the von Trapps.

这是一部关于一个名叫玛丽亚的女人的故事，她被派到乡下照顾一个大家庭的孩子，她的父亲冯·特拉普一家很刻薄。

Maria shows up, bubbly, fun, and teaches them to sing and play and be kids, all against the wishes of their father.

玛丽亚出现了，活泼、有趣，并教他们唱歌、玩耍和做孩子，这一切都违背了他们父亲的意愿。

But the singing wins him over.

但歌声赢得了他的心。

They sing together as a family.

他们一家人一起唱歌。

And finally, at a party, the kids sing a beautiful song for the guests.

最后，在聚会上，孩子们为客人唱一首优美的歌曲。

Farewell.

告别。

And after that, Maria, having successfully fixed the family, leaves, just like Mary Poppins did when she fixed that family.

之后，玛丽亚在成功地修复了这个家庭后离开了，就像玛丽·波平斯修复这个家庭时所做的那样。

And that's the end of the movie.

这就是电影的结尾。

I had very clear fond memories of the goatherd puppet show and the scene in the gazebo where Liesl, the eldest daughter, secretly met with the mailman she was in love with.

我对牧羊人木偶戏以及大女儿莉赛尔在凉亭里秘密会见她所爱的邮递员的场景有着非常清晰的美好回忆。

And they sang and danced, and it was so romantic.

他们又唱又跳，真是浪漫极了。

I had no further questions about any of the characters.

我对任何角色都没有进一步的疑问。

So when I learned that there were 70 more minutes to the film, I didn't bother going to look for them.

所以当我得知电影还有70分钟时，我就懒得去找了。

The Sound of Music was a full complete and wonderful artifact from my childhood.

《音乐之声》是我童年时期的一部完整而精彩的作品。

I didn't want to taint it with Nazis.

我不想让纳粹玷污它。

But when my co-worker, Lina, who's producing this week's show and is a musical theater fan-- which I most definitely am not-- when she found out I still hadn't seen the whole thing, it seemed heretical to her.

但是，当我的同事莉娜（Lina）制作了本周的节目，她是一名音乐剧迷（我绝对不是）时，当她发现我还没有看完整个节目时，这对她来说似乎是异端。

She couldn't let it stand.

她不能让它这样下去。

So we watched it together over the internet one Sunday afternoon.

所以一个周日的下午我们一起通过互联网观看了这部电影。

And I prepared to have a childhood memory either slightly enhanced or completely ruined.

我做好了童年记忆要么稍微增强要么完全毁掉的准备。

Before we started, she had me predict what was going to be in the second half.

在我们开始之前，她让我预测下半场会发生什么。

I want, based on-- and this is based on my childhood memory and just what I would like to see, is the second half is just focused on my favorite two characters, Liesl and the hot mailman.

我想，基于——这是基于我童年的记忆，而我想看到的是，后半部分集中在我最喜欢的两个角色上，莉赛尔和性感的邮递员。

I want to see their courtship.

我想看看他们的求爱。

And then they get married.

然后他们结婚了。

And that's the end of the movie.

这就是电影的结尾。

We hit play and started at the very beginning, started with the part I know.

我们开始玩，从一开始，从我知道的部分开始。

And the first half was more or less the simple, sunny movie I remembered.

前半部分或多或少是我记忆中的一部简单、阳光的电影。

Seeing the kindly and dour nuns come on screen early on was like recognizing teachers I had in elementary school.

很早就看到屏幕上出现的和蔼可亲又阴郁的修女就像认识了我小学时的老师一样。

Reverend Mother.

尊敬的母亲。

Reverend Mother Sister Bernice.

伯妮斯圣母修女牧师。

I simply cannot find her.

我就是找不到她。

Reverend Mother Maria?

玛丽亚圣母？

There is that gazebo scene, when the mailman and Liesl sing to each other.

有一个凉亭场景，邮递员和莉赛尔互相唱歌。

(SINGING) I am 16, going on 17.

（唱）我今年 16 岁，马上就要 17 岁了。

I know that I'm naive.

我知道我很天真。

Oh, my God.

我的天啊。

This still looks like so much fun.

这看起来还是很有趣。

Watching now, though, I saw a lot of things that I had completely missed as a kid, because, as a child, I'd apparently ignored anything that adults who are not Maria said to each other.

不过，现在看，我看到了很多我小时候完全错过的事情，因为，作为一个孩子，我显然忽略了除了玛丽亚之外的成年人互相说的任何话。

Literally, none of that dialogue registered.

从字面上看，这些对话都没有被记录下来。

It was like the mumbly grown-ups in Charlie Brown.

就像《查理·布朗》中那些闷闷不乐的大人一样。

My kid self had edited full characters out of the film.

我的孩子自己已经从电影中剪辑出了完整的角色。

I barely remembered the baroness who wants to marry the dad.

我几乎不记得那位想嫁给父亲的男爵夫人了。

This really is exciting for me, Georg, being here with you.

乔治，能和你在一起，这对我来说真的很令人兴奋。

Oh, trees, lakes, mountains.

哦，树木，湖泊，山脉。

When you've seen one, you've seen them all!

当您看到其中之一时，您就已经看到了全部！

That is not what I mean, and you know it.

我不是这个意思，你也知道。

So any of their plot lines that were not resolved in the first half, moot.

因此，他们在上半场没有解决的任何情节都毫无意义。

I also missed, of course, how Maria and the dad supposedly fall in love.

当然，我也怀念玛丽亚和父亲据说是如何坠入爱河的。

The dad, by the way, was even meaner than I remembered, just cruel to Maria.

顺便说一句，父亲比我记忆中还要刻薄，对玛丽亚很残酷。

Turn.

转动。

Hat off.

脱帽。

It's the dress.

就是这件衣服。

You'll have to put on another one before you meet the children.

在见到孩子们之前，你必须再穿上一件。

And because of that, I still had a lot of trouble squaring the idea that anything between the two of them was remotely romantic.

正因为如此，我仍然很难确定他们两个之间的一切都是浪漫的。

But that's not true.

但事实并非如此。

Diane Wu Oh, they really spell it out.

吴黛安哦，他们真的拼出来了。

Surely, you've noticed the way he looks into your eyes.

当然，你已经注意到他看你眼睛的方式了。

And you blushed in his arms when you were dancing just now.

而你刚才跳舞的时候，在他怀里脸红了。

The one romance that still sparkled was between Liesl and the mailman.

莉赛尔和邮递员之间的爱情仍然闪闪发光。

Though, watching again, I have to say the mailman was not as cute as I remembered.

不过，再看一遍，我不得不说，邮递员并不像我记忆中那么可爱。

It's the mailman!

是邮递员！

Oh, he kind of looks like a Nazi.

哦，他看起来有点像纳粹。

Ralph, the mailman, comes back later in the first half to throw rocks on Liesl's window.

上半场晚些时候，邮递员拉尔夫回来向莉赛尔的窗户扔石头。

That moment, I remember.

那一刻，我记得。

Again, so dreamy.

再次，如此梦幻。

But the one that followed was completely over my head as a kid.

但接下来发生的事情完全超出了我小时候的想象。

I didn't see.

我没看到。

I mean, I didn't know you were-- Heil Hitler!

我的意思是，我不知道你是——希特勒万岁！

Oh.

哦。

"Heil Hitler"?

“希特勒万岁”？

Yeah, "Heil Hitler." The hero of my version of The Sound of Music, who I'd hoped the second half would center around, he was the Nazi.

是的，“希特勒万岁”。我版本的《音乐之声》中的英雄，我希望后半部分以他为中心，他是纳粹。

Also, not the mailman.

另外，不是邮递员。

Yes, he was wearing a uniform and delivering messages, but he was not employed by the postal service, as my child self had understood.

是的，他穿着制服并传递信息，但正如我小时候所理解的那样，他并不是受雇于邮政部门。

He was some kind of military messenger.

他是某种军事信使。

The first half is peppered with a few more hints like this that things are going to take a turn historically in the second half of the movie.

前半部分充满了一些类似的暗示，事情将在电影的后半部分发生历史性的转变。

Uneasy talk about Austrian flags and something called an Anschluss, but all against the backdrop of a glamorous party.

人们不安地谈论奥地利国旗和所谓的德奥合并，但所有这些都是在一个迷人的政党的背景下进行的。

They're kind of easy to miss, if you're seven.

如果你七岁，很容易错过它们。

The last thing I missed as a kid?

我小时候最想念的一件事是什么？

The big title card that says intermission in yellow script that comes on screen after Maria closes the door.

玛丽亚关上门后，屏幕上出现一张大标题卡，上面用黄色字体写着中场休息。

Maybe it was on the second VHS.

也许是在第二个 VHS 上。

Lina and I fast forward through the music at intermission.

莉娜和我在中场休息时随着音乐快进。

And the second half starts.

下半场开始了。

Oh, my god, Lina.

哦，天哪，莉娜。

I can't believe there's more.

我不敢相信还有更多。

Two, three-- Lina Oh, this is really weird.

二、三—— Lina 哦，这真的很奇怪。

You haven't seen any of this.

这些你都没见过。

--fixe, six, seven.

——固定，六，七。

Diane Wu Except as the second half starts, I suddenly feel like I have seen all of this.

吴黛安除了下半场开始，我突然感觉这一切我都看到了。

Watching the children play ball in their backyard felt strangely familiar.

看着孩子们在后院打球，感觉有一种奇怪的熟悉感。

Six!

六！

Oh.

哦。

Diane Wu I'd spent so much time already with the von Trapps at their home that this new scene just felt like part of my memories.

黛安·吴（Diane Wu） 我已经在冯·特拉普夫妇家里度过了很长时间，这个新场景感觉就像是我记忆的一部分。

This confusing deja vu sticks with me, all the way through the scenes of Maria back at the abbey.

这种令人困惑的似曾相识的感觉一直伴随着我，贯穿了玛丽亚回到修道院的场景。

It's not until the dad goes to meet Maria at the gazebo and declare his love for her that I am certain I have never seen this before.

直到父亲去凉亭见到玛丽亚并向她表达他的爱时，我才确信我以前从未见过这种情况。

Do you know when I first started loving you?

你知道我什么时候开始爱你的吗？

That night at the dinner table when you sat on that ridiculous pine cone.

那天晚上，在餐桌上，当你坐在那个可笑的松果上时。

What?

什么？

I knew the first time you blew that silly whistle.

我知道你第一次吹那个愚蠢的口哨的时候。

This is so gross.

这太恶心了。

They basically just stared at each other three times, and now Maria was letting this horrible man marry her?

他们基本上只是对视了三眼，现在玛丽亚却让这个可怕的男人嫁给她？

I could not believe it.

我简直不敢相信。

Just as I'm settling into the newness of the second half, gawking at Maria's wedding dress, everything in the movie shifts.

正当我沉浸在后半部分的新鲜感中，呆呆地看着玛丽亚的婚纱时，电影中的一切都发生了变化。

The Nazis roll into town.

纳粹分子进城。

It's incredibly abrupt, a cut from literal wedding bells to a bell tolling over a giant swastika flag on the town square.

这是令人难以置信的突然，从真正的婚礼钟声切换到城镇广场上一面巨大的纳粹标志旗上敲响的钟声。

Lines of soldiers march across the plaza ominously.

一排排士兵不祥地穿过广场。

The colors seemed to drain out of the movie.

电影中的色彩似乎消失了。

The children show up next in drab brown clothes against a stony backdrop, instead of their perky curtain outfits from the first half.

接下来，孩子们在石头背景下穿着土褐色的衣服，而不是上半场活泼的窗帘服装。

The characters, meanwhile, are dealing with their own whiplash.

与此同时，角色们正在应对自己的鞭打。

Rolfe surprises Liesl as she's getting into a car.

当莉赛尔上车时，罗尔夫让她大吃一惊。

I'm basically as excited to see Rolfe as Liesl is right here, because maybe this is when we get to the version of the second half I'd been wanting to see-- Rolfe and Liesl's courtship.

基本上，我很高兴见到罗尔夫，就像莉丝尔就在这里一样，因为也许这是我们到达我一直想看到的下半场版本的时候——罗尔夫和莉丝尔的求爱。

Rolfe, I'm so glad to see you.

罗尔夫，很高兴见到你。

It's been such--

事情是这样的——

Good afternoon.

下午好。

You will take this, please, and deliver it to your father as soon as he comes home.

请你拿着这个，等你父亲一回家就把它交给他。

Ouch, Rolfe.

哎呀，罗尔夫。

He's standing in front of a Nazi flag.

他站在纳粹旗帜前。

Liesl is clearly disoriented, but still hopeful as she holds the telegram and coyly asks--

莉赛尔明显迷失了方向，但仍然充满希望，她拿着电报，腼腆地问道——

Don't you want to come over tonight and deliver it yourself?

你不想今晚过来亲自送吗？

I am now occupied with more important matters.

我现在正忙着更重要的事情。

And your father better be, too, if he knows what's good for him.

如果你的父亲知道什么对他有好处，他也最好这样做。

But Rolfe-- Diane Wu Aw, Liesl, you chose a bad one.

但是罗尔夫——黛安·吴 噢，莉丝尔，你选了一个坏的。

This was the only relationship in the movie that interested me at all as a child.

这是电影中唯一让我小时候感兴趣的关系。

And it's sobering to see the whole realistic arc of it.

看到它的整个现实弧线是发人深省的。

As for the rest of the second half, it's predictable.

至于下半场剩下的时间，也是可以预见的。

You know their first escape isn't going to work out.

你知道他们的第一次逃跑不会成功。

It's obvious they'll win the singing contest.

很明显他们会赢得歌唱比赛。

Great songs from the first half are just recycled in a weird way.

前半部分的好歌曲只是以一种奇怪的方式循环使用。

The one moment that moves me, though, doesn't have anything to do with the characters I was attached to from the first half.

然而，令我感动的那一刻与我在前半部分所喜欢的角色没有任何关系。

It happens, surprisingly, when the dad starts singing a love song to his country onstage.

令人惊讶的是，当父亲开始在舞台上唱一首献给祖国的情歌时，事情就发生了。

(SINGING) Edelweiss, Edelweiss, every morning you greet me.

（唱歌）雪绒花，雪绒花，每天早上你都会跟我打招呼。

He's doing it as an act of gentle defiance that makes the Nazi official's mustache twitch.

他这样做是一种温和的反抗行为，这让纳粹官员的胡子抽搐起来。

And as the crowd joins in with him, I feel my throat catch a little.

当人群加入他的行列时，我感觉我的喉咙有点卡住。

They remind me of people all around the world this summer in Hong Kong, Beirut, Belarus, here in America, who are longing to hold on to something as their own countries change rapidly, excruciatingly, around them.

它们让我想起今年夏天世界各地的人们，无论是在香港、贝鲁特、白俄罗斯，还是在美国，当他们自己的国家发生迅速而痛苦的变化时，他们渴望坚持一些东西。

(SINGING) Edelweiss, Edelweiss, bless my hometown forever.

（唱）雪绒花，雪绒花，永远祝福我的家乡。

The darkest moment of the movie is perhaps at the very end, when the family has almost escaped, but then Rolfe finds them in the abbey.

电影最黑暗的时刻也许是在最后，一家人几乎逃跑了，但随后罗尔夫在修道院里找到了他们。

He raises a whistle to turn them in.

他吹响口哨将他们交出。

But the dad stops and reasons with him.

但父亲停下来和他讲道理。

Stay where you are.

呆在原地。

Georg Come away with us-- before it's too late.

格奥尔格 跟我们走吧——趁一切还来得及之前。

Rolfe looks scared and boyish.

罗尔夫看起来很害怕，而且很孩子气。

He relinquishes his gun and leans over, relieved.

他放下枪，倾身过去，如释重负。

But then the dad takes it one step too far.

但随后父亲就走得太远了。

You'll never be one of them.

你永远不会成为他们中的一员。

Rolfe Lieutenant!

罗尔夫中尉！

Lieutenant, they're here!

中尉，他们来了！

They're here, lieutenant!

他们来了，中尉！

Rolfe chooses to betray them.

罗尔夫选择背叛他们。

It's such a sinister and dissonant scene, held up against the cotton candy first half.

这是一个如此险恶和不和谐的场景，与上半场的棉花糖形成鲜明对比。

The family still makes it out in time, but in spite of him, not with his help.

家人还是及时逃了出来，但尽管有他，也没有他的帮助。

And that's the actual end of the movie, as far as I know today.

据我今天所知，这就是电影的真正结局。

So here's my conclusion, having seen it all.

看完这一切后，这是我的结论。

You don't need the second half.

下半场就不需要了

It's actually better without it.

实际上没有它更好。

The second half just takes one of my kid self's favorite characters, Rolfe, and makes him a villain, then takes the worst character, the dad, and makes him a hero.

后半部分只是选择了我孩子最喜欢的角色之一，罗尔夫，让他成为一个恶棍，然后选择了最糟糕的角色，父亲，并让他成为英雄。

There are barely any new songs.

几乎没有什么新歌。

Maria disappears as a person.

玛丽亚作为一个人消失了。

Liesl just looks uncomfortable the whole time, trying to act like a child for another hour.

莉丝尔一直看起来很不舒服，试图在接下来的一个小时里表现得像个孩子。

Everything memorable and iconic about the movie-- "My Favorite Things," the kids singing good night, "Doe, a deer"-- that all happens in the first half.

这部电影中所有令人难忘和标志性的事情——“我最喜欢的事情”、孩子们唱晚安、“母鹿，一只鹿”——都发生在上半场。

But then I was at the beach this weekend with a friend, staring at the clouds and the kids throwing sand.

但这个周末我和一个朋友在海滩上，盯着云朵和孩子们扔沙子。

And he said a thing that changed my feeling about the second half.

他说了一句话改变了我对下半场的感觉。

He told me that, lately, he can last about three minutes feeling like everything is normal before he remembers it isn't.

他告诉我，最近，他可以持续大约三分钟，感觉一切都很正常，然后他才想起事实并非如此。

It made me understand the urge to include the dark end of the story in the movie about the singing family.

这让我理解了将故事的黑暗结局纳入关于歌唱家庭的电影中的冲动。

Because once everything in the world has changed, you can't really will it to stay outside the frame.

因为一旦世界上的一切都改变了，你就无法真正让它留在框架之外。

Diane Wu is one of the producers of our show.

吴黛安是我们节目的制作人之一。

Coming up, your ex-wife has a few thoughts about your marriage, and she makes a movie about that.

接下来，你的前妻对你的婚姻有一些想法，她为此拍了一部电影。

That does not sound like that's going to be a good experience for you.

这听起来对你来说并不是一次好的经历。

That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio, when our program continues.

芝加哥公共广播电台一分钟后我们的节目仍在继续。

It's This American Life.

这就是美国生活。

I'm Ira Glass.

我是艾拉·格拉斯。

Today on our program, at this point in the pandemic, where so many of us are still not going out to movie theaters, we thought, here at our program, let's do a movie night, a show about movies, stories about people who see something that most of us do not see in some film.

今天在我们的节目中，在大流行的这个时刻，我们很多人仍然没有去电影院，我们想，在我们的节目中，让我们举办一个电影之夜，一场关于电影的节目，讲述人们看到我们大多数人在电影中看不到的东西的故事。

Today's show is a rerun.

今天的节目是重播。

We've arrived at act two of our program.

我们已经进入了计划的第二幕。

Act Two, "Putting the Ease in Disease."

第二幕，“缓解疾病”。

So back when the pandemic first took hold, a lot of people were watching or rewatching the movie Contagion, which originally came out in 2011.

因此，当大流行首次爆发时，很多人都在观看或重看 2011 年上映的电影《传染病》。

Maybe you've seen this.

也许你见过这个。

It's about a deadly and fast-spreading virus that is spread by respiratory droplets.

这是关于一种通过呼吸道飞沫传播的致命且快速传播的病毒。

It goes around the world.

它环游世界。

Governments fail to contain it.

政府未能遏制它。

And I think when we watch films like that or read books about the 1918 flu-- because it just, I don't know, scratches this itch, where we want some way to think about what we are going through right now.

我认为，当我们观看类似的电影或阅读有关 1918 年流感的书籍时，我不知道，因为它只是止痒，我们需要某种方式来思考我们现在正在经历的事情。

And it's just nice to see somebody else go through some version of it.

很高兴看到其他人经历它的某些版本。

One of our producers, Sean Cole, has never seen Contagion, but he found himself turning to this other movie, a movie about a virus that you've probably never heard of.

我们的制片人之一肖恩·科尔从未看过《传染病》，但他发现自己转向了另一部电影，一部关于你可能从未听说过的病毒的电影。

It is a very different spin on the subject.

这是一个非常不同的主题。

Here's Sean.

这是肖恩。

You won't find this movie on Netflix or YouTube or anywhere like that-- or at least, I couldn't find it that way.

你不会在 Netflix 或 YouTube 或类似的地方找到这部电影——或者至少，我无法通过这种方式找到它。

I finally had to order a DVD from an online vintage movie store.

我最后不得不从一家在线老式电影商店订购了一张 DVD。

It's clear my copy was pirated off cable-- skips a lot.

很明显我的副本是通过有线电视盗版的——跳过了很多。

And like all of the Contagion geeks, I was floored by some of the parallels to now, especially given that this movie came out in 1968, more than half a century ago.

和所有《传染病》极客一样，我对现在的一些相似之处感到震惊，特别是考虑到这部电影于 1968 年上映，距今已有半个多世纪了。

For instance, in this movie, instead of a bat, the vector of the virus is a bird, a toucan, that's stowed away aboard a Greek freighter somewhere near Central America.

例如，在这部电影中，病毒的载体不是蝙蝠，而是一只鸟，一只巨嘴鸟，它被藏在中美洲附近某处的希腊货轮上。

Then the boat docks in New York Harbor for inspection, and the first mate alerts the military that a lot of the crew is sick.

然后船停靠在纽约港接受检查，大副警告军方许多船员生病了。

We'll have to hold the ship in quarantine indefinitely.

我们将不得不无限期地隔离这艘船。

If it is a virus, my guess, it's a brand new one, some kind of a mutation.

如果它是一种病毒，我猜，它是一种全新的病毒，某种突变。

No telling how long it'll take to identify it.

不知道需要多长时间才能识别出来。

The toucan is still on board, held in a makeshift chicken wire fence.

巨嘴鸟仍在船上，被关在临时的铁丝围栏里。

But then it gets loose, flies straight into the city and starts infecting people.

但随后它就散开，直接飞进城市并开始感染人们。

Just a few at first.

一开始只有几个。

The mayor of New York, an empty suit motivated mostly by money and poll numbers, holds a press conference, speaking into a microphone labeled WNYC, the public radio station in New York where I used to work.

纽约市长穿着空荡荡的西装，主要是为了金钱和民意调查数字，他召开了一场新闻发布会，对着标有“WNYC”的麦克风讲话，这是我曾经工作过的纽约公共广播电台。

It was weird.

很奇怪。

There's absolutely no cause for alarm.

完全没有理由惊慌。

Only 47 cases have been reported so far.

迄今为止仅报告了47例。

However, the commissioner of health recommends that you wear a surgical mask when you are out in public.

不过，卫生专员建议您外出公共场合时佩戴外科口罩。

Now--

现在——

He holds up a mask exactly like the one I wear every day.

他举着一个面具，和我每天戴的面具一模一样。

After the reporters leave, though, there's deep concern and dread.

然而，记者离开后，人们心中充满了深深的担忧和恐惧。

The health commissioner, an older Anthony Fauci type, scolds the mayor for underplaying the threat everyone's facing.

这位卫生专员是一位老安东尼·福奇（Anthony Fauci）类型的人，他斥责市长低估了每个人都面临的威胁。

True, we've got a line on the 47 who reported to doctors, but--

确实，我们已经接到了 47 名向医生报告的人的电话，但是——

But when you feel good, you don't go to a doctor.

但当你感觉良好时，你就不会去看医生。

But the virus only has a life of 10 days or so.

但病毒的寿命只有10天左右。

You said so yourself.

你自己也这么说。

Yes, but somebody who gets it on the 10th day and has it for another 10 days, and a week after he gets it, he gives it to somebody else and so on.

是的，但是有人在第 10 天得到它，并再保留 10 天，在得到它一周后，他把它给了其他人，依此类推。

Theoretically, it could go on for years.

从理论上讲，这种情况可能会持续数年。

Soon, everyone is scurrying around the city in a masked panic.

很快，每个人都带着掩饰的恐慌在城市中四处奔波。

Businesses suffer.

企业遭受损失。

A presidential envoy fast tracks the development of a vaccine.

总统特使快速跟踪疫苗的开发。

If it weren't for the 20-foot long cop cars and A-line mod dresses, it feels like some of these scenes could have been shot in Manhattan last weekend.

如果没有 20 英尺长的警车和 A 字型时尚连衣裙，感觉其中一些场景可能是上周末在曼哈顿拍摄的。

Except, there's one major difference between this film and the Steven Soderberghian Contagion-like reality we're all living in.

不过，这部电影和我们生活在史蒂文·索德伯格的传染病式现实之间有一个重大区别。

Because in this movie, the virus is not fatal.

因为在这部电影中，病毒并不致命。

It doesn't even cause a fever or a cough.

它甚至不会引起发烧或咳嗽。

Instead, the main and only symptom is absolute euphoria.

相反，主要也是唯一的症状是绝对的欣快感。

That's it.

就是这样。

Everyone it infects experiences unbridled happiness and elation.

每个被它感染的人都会体验到无拘无束的幸福和兴高采烈。

Its victims begin acting kindly to one another, deferential.

它的受害者开始表现得友善、恭敬。

In just a couple of days, the city is transformed from this--

短短几天，这座城市就发生了翻天覆地的变化——

Come on, you jerk!

来吧，你这个混蛋！

The light ain't going to get any greener!

光不会变得更绿！

Why, you lazy, no good, rotten, stinking--

为什么，你这个懒惰的人，不好，腐烂，发臭——

You're damn right I am!

你他妈说得对，我就是！

Man 4 Who you shoving, mac?

男人 4 你推谁了，麦克？

You own the sidewalk?

人行道是你的吗？

The movie is called What's So Bad About Feeling Good?

这部电影的名字叫《感觉良好有什么不好？》

It's a comedy-- a romcom, really.

这是一部喜剧——一部浪漫喜剧，真的。

And it is not a good movie, which is why you likely haven't heard of it, even though the lead actors are George Peppard from Breakfast at Tiffany's and The A-Team and Mary Tyler Moore from Mary Tyler Moore.

这不是一部好电影，这就是为什么你可能没有听说过它，尽管主演是《蒂凡尼的早餐》和《天龙特工队》中的乔治·佩帕德以及《玛丽·泰勒·摩尔》中的玛丽·泰勒·摩尔。

And they do a good job.

他们做得很好。

Pretty much everyone in the cast is really skilled.

演员阵容中几乎每个人都非常熟练。

But the whole production is outlandishly campy and caricaturistic.

但整个作品却显得异常做作和讽刺。

There are a few very awkward choices.

有一些非常尴尬的选择。

Cartoon word balloons emerge from the toucan's mouth sometimes when it squawks, so you know what it's thinking.

当巨嘴鸟叫的时候，它的嘴里有时会冒出卡通字气球，这样你就知道它在想什么。

Oh, and there's a schmaltzy AM radio theme song, kind of a knockoff of Burt Bacharach.

哦，还有一首伤感的 AM 电台主题曲，有点模仿伯特·巴卡拉克 (Burt Bacharach)。

(SINGING) What's so wrong with that happy sensation, that sense of utter elation?

（唱歌）那种幸福的感觉、那种彻底的兴高采烈的感觉有什么问题吗？

What's so bad about feeling good?

感觉良好有什么不好呢？

That said, it's also a great movie in the way that silly B movies can be so satisfying, especially the arcane ones that make you feel like a kid watching adults mess up for the first time.

也就是说，这也是一部很棒的电影，因为愚蠢的 B 级电影可以如此令人满意，尤其是那些让你感觉像个孩子第一次看到成年人搞砸的神秘电影。

I have a greatest hits list of them in my head.

我脑子里有一张最热门的歌曲列表。

Wild in the Streets, about ageist hippies waging a coup against the US government.

《狂野街头》讲述了有年龄歧视的嬉皮士发动政变反对美国政府的故事。

Invasion of the Bee Girls, about a race of murderous women, who are also bees.

《蜜蜂女孩的入侵》讲述了一群凶残的女性，她们也是蜜蜂。

Both of which you can watch online for free.

这两部作品都可以免费在线观看。

But since it's so hard to find a copy of this movie, let me just continue taking you through the plot in a kind of abbreviated, radio-ified Cliff's Notes version for your movie not-going enjoyment.

但由于很难找到这部电影的副本，所以让我继续以一种缩写的、广播式《悬崖笔记》版本的方式带您了解情节，以便您在电影之外享受乐趣。

So George Peppard and Mary Tyler Moore are Pete and Liz, two characters who are tailor-made for this particular plot, because they don't contain an ounce of euphoria.

所以乔治·佩帕德和玛丽·泰勒·摩尔就是皮特和莉兹，这两个角色是为这个特定的情节量身定做的，因为他们没有一丝欣快感。

They're brooding existentialist archetypes that have dropped out of society, living in the East Village.

他们是沉思的存在主义原型，已经脱离社会，生活在东村。

They'd be boyfriend and girlfriend if they believed in that sort of thing.

如果他们相信这种事，他们就会成为男女朋友。

For no discernible reason, or maybe because the script wasn't working and they had to fix it quickly, there's a lot of voiceover by these two.

没有明显的原因，或者可能是因为剧本不起作用，他们必须迅速修复它，这两个人有很多画外音。

A couple of years ago, I was just like the rest of you conformists.

几年前，我和你们一样都是墨守成规的人。

I was in advertising, name on the door, carpet on the floor, an ulcer, headaches, the whole bit.

我在做广告，门上有名字，地板上有地毯，溃疡，头痛，等等。

But I wised up to that phony world and came down here.

但我看清了那个虚假的世界并来到了这里。

So did Liz.

丽兹也是如此。

She was on the treadmill, too.

她也在跑步机上。

I sure was.

我确实是。

Uptown supper clubs, singing schmaltzy songs to the drunks, fighting to get to the top of the ladder.

住宅区的晚餐俱乐部，向醉汉们唱着伤感的歌曲，努力爬到梯子的顶端。

And then my heart got into the act, and somebody stepped on it.

然后我的心就开始行动了，有人踩了它。

Pills to sleep, pills to stay awake.

入睡药，保持清醒药。

Finally, I asked myself, for what?

最后我问自己，为了什么？

This was the answer.

这就是答案。

This being the communal building they live in with a tribe of other unhappy nihilists collecting unemployment.

这是他们与一群其他失业的不幸虚无主义者居住的公共建筑。

They all look a little like cave people at a gallery opening.

他们看起来都有点像画廊开幕式上的穴居人。

One of them spends every hour of every day completely enveloped inside of a sack.

其中一个每天的每一个小时都完全被包裹在麻袋里。

They call her the Sack.

他们称她为“麻袋”。

Since the problems of life are insoluble, one should draw into complete isolation and live a life of total non-involvement with other people.

既然生活中的问题是无法解决的，那么一个人就应该完全与世隔绝，过一种完全不与他人交往的生活。

The Sack is right.

麻袋是对的。

Sean Cole Meanwhile, a little ways downtown, the Faucian commissioner of health pretty quickly figures out how the virus works.

与此同时，在市中心不远的地方，福斯卫生专员肖恩·科尔很快就弄清楚了病毒是如何传播的。

And it has to be transmitted by respiration.

而且必须通过呼吸传播。

All that bird has to do is get within breathing distance of somebody, and pop goes the weasel.

那只鸟所要做的就是接近某人的呼吸距离，黄鼠狼就会弹出。

Cue the toucan, who flies into Pete and Liz's window one morning while they're sleeping, loiters for a minute next to Pete's face, and leaves.

有一天早上，巨嘴鸟在皮特和莉兹睡觉时飞进他们的窗户，在皮特的脸旁边徘徊了一分钟，然后离开了。

Pete wakes up early and heads up to the roof.

皮特很早起床，走向屋顶。

Liz climbs up after him, concerned.

莉兹爬上他的身后，一脸担忧。

What happened?

发生了什么？

Pete Come here.

皮特 过来。

Look.

看。

In this cruddy pile of junk, a flower.

在这堆破烂的垃圾里，有一朵花。

Pete, what's wrong?

皮特，怎么了？

What's the matter with you?

你怎么了？

I don't know.

我不知道。

Ever since I got up, I've been feeling strange, kind of-- I don't think I can explain it to you, but everything seems different.

自从我起床以来，我一直感觉很奇怪，有点——我想我无法向你解释，但一切似乎都不一样了。

Hey, listen.

嘿，听着。

To what?

为了什么？

The traffic?

交通？

Pete Kids laughing.

皮特孩子们笑了。

You know why they're laughing?

你知道他们为什么笑吗？

Because they're not old enough to read the newspaper.

因为他们还没有到读报纸的年龄。

You take a look at the front page and then try laughing.

你看了一眼首页，然后试着笑。

The world's a stinking, hopeless mess!

世界是一团恶臭、绝望的混乱！

Oh, Pete, you're sick.

哦，皮特，你有病。

You know, sometimes a high fever can make you feel this way.

你知道，有时高烧会让你有这种感觉。

At this point, it's worth noting why someone might want to make a film about the need for euphoria in 1968.

在这一点上，值得注意的是为什么有人可能想拍一部关于 1968 年欣快感需求的电影。

The front page Liz is talking about would include headlines like "Martin Luther King is Slain in Memphis," "Robert Kennedy Dead," "Police Battle Demonstrators in the Streets"-- also, "Viet Cong Storm US Embassy." We were a nation at war, both abroad and with itself, with protests and riots in cities across the country, and a presidential candidate running on a platform of law and order, and also courting segregationists.

莉兹正在谈论的头版将包括“马丁·路德·金在孟菲斯被杀”、“罗伯特·肯尼迪之死”、“街头警察与示威者”等标题，还有“越共风暴美国大使馆”。我们是一个处于战争状态的国家，无论是国外还是国内，全国各地的城市都有抗议和骚乱，总统候选人在法律和秩序的平台上竞选，还拉拢种族隔离主义者。

And given all that, you might ask, what is so bad about feeling good?

考虑到这一切，你可能会问，感觉良好有什么不好呢？

Which is what the mayor in the movie wanted to know.

这正是电影中的市长想知道的。

In one of the first crisis management meetings with his cabinet, they're running down the symptoms for him and tell him the virus stops people from brooding.

在与他的内阁举行的第一次危机管理会议中，他们向他详细介绍了症状，并告诉他病毒可以阻止人们沉思。

But it's worse than that.

但情况比这更糟糕。

Mr. Mayor, 82% not only stop brooding, they stop smoking.

市长先生，82% 的人不仅停止沉思，还停止吸烟。

93% stop drinking.

93% 的人停止饮酒。

What's wrong with that?

这有什么问题吗？

Man In terms of dollars and cents, it's disastrous.

就美元和美分而言，这是灾难性的。

Our city is facing a drastic loss in income from sales tax.

我们的城市正面临着销售税收入的巨大损失。

That's ridiculous.

这太荒谬了。

47 people?

47人？

Drop in a bucket.

放入桶中。

But if this goes unchecked for a month, by mathematical progression, half of New York will have the virus.

但如果这种情况不加控制一个月，按照数学级数计算，纽约一半的人都会感染这种病毒。

You know what that means.

你知道那意味着什么。

It means a loss in cigarette and liquor taxes, more than $180 million.

这意味着卷烟和酒类税的损失超过1.8亿美元。

$180 million?

1.8亿美元？

Brady, what are you sitting there for?

布雷迪，你坐在那里干什么？

Get that bird!

抓住那只鸟！

Yes, sir.

是的，先生。

Sean Cole Brady is the chief of police.

肖恩·科尔·布雷迪是警察局长。

Capture the bird, they can extract its tissues, come up with a cure, and stave off an economic crisis.

捕获这只鸟，他们可以提取它的组织，找到治疗方法，并避免经济危机。

Because, of course, what's the most important thing a politician thinks of in a potential pandemic?

当然，因为在潜在的大流行中，政治家认为最重要的事情是什么？

How to save the economy.

如何拯救经济。

Meantime, Pete, much to Liz's horror, has shaved off his beard, cut his hair, and is talking about trying to get his old advertising job back.

与此同时，令莉兹惊恐的是，皮特剃掉了胡子，剪掉了头发，并正在谈论试图恢复他以前的广告工作。

Which-- quick digression-- interests me because it's the opposite of subversive.

其中——快速题外话——让我感兴趣，因为它与颠覆相反。

Once these nonconformists get infected, instead of dropping out, they drop in.

一旦这些不墨守成规的人被感染，他们不会退出，而是加入进来。

Pete feels so good, in fact, that once he figures out what's, quote unquote, "wrong with him," he wants to share it with everyone, starting with Liz.

事实上，皮特感觉很好，一旦他弄清楚“他出了什么问题”，他就想与所有人分享，从莉兹开始。

In an age when all of us are actively avoiding each other's bodies like the plague, because of the plague, it's wild to watch someone actively trying to spread a virus like this.

在我们所有人都像瘟疫一样积极躲避彼此身体的时代，因为瘟疫，看到有人积极试图传播这样的病毒是很疯狂的。

One little kiss, and you'll have it, too.

一个小小的吻，你也会得到它。

I don't want it.

我不想要它。

Pete Just one little kiss.

皮特 只要一个小小的吻。

You'll like yourself in the morning.

早上你会喜欢自己的。

I don't want it, Pete.

我不想要它，皮特。

Pete We'll get married, a real marriage--

皮特 我们会结婚，真正的婚姻——

I don't want it.

我不想要它。

Pete --a church wedding.

皮特——一场教堂婚礼。

Chasing her around the room.

在房间里追着她。

Pete We'll get a little place in Jersey.

皮特：我们会在泽西岛找到一个小地方。

We'll have some kids, and I'll mow the lawn.

我们会有一些孩子，我会修剪草坪。

And give up all this?

并放弃这一切？

Sean Cole Eventually, in a completely unbelievable moment that would never have survived the MeToo movement, Pete disguises himself as a nihilist German philosopher and tries to pressure Liz into bed, finally settling for a kiss.

肖恩·科尔 最终，在一个完全令人难以置信的时刻，皮特将自己伪装成一位虚无主义的德国哲学家，试图迫使莉兹上床，最后决定亲吻。

He exposes the rest of the gang, too.

他也揭露了该团伙的其他成员。

They all shave, cut their hair, Queer Eye their apartments.

他们都刮胡子，剪头发，粉雄救兵他们的公寓。

The Sack climbs out of her sack.

麻袋从她的麻袋里爬出来。

And the toucan, remarkably, keeps coming back.

值得注意的是，巨嘴鸟不断回来。

It becomes their pet.

它成为他们的宠物。

They call him Amigo.

他们叫他阿米戈。

At the same time, the mayor is bundled off to an emergency bunker so that he doesn't get sick.

与此同时，市长被送往紧急掩体，以免生病。

A TV reporter buttonholes him on the way in.

一名电视记者在他进来的路上扣住了他的扣子。

Tell me, sir, is there any truth to the rumor that there's been a spread in the epidemic?

先生，请告诉我，有关疫情蔓延的传闻是否属实？

Epidemic?

流行性？

Well, I'd hardly call it an epidemic.

嗯，我很难称其为流行病。

After all, we only have 180 million-- 47 cases.

毕竟，我们只有 1.8 亿——47 个病例。

Well, why then, sir, are you visiting the fallout shelter?

那么，先生，你为什么要参观避难所呢？

Just a routine inspection, last Friday of every month.

只是例行检查，每个月的最后一个星期五。

But today is Saturday, sir.

但今天是星期六，先生。

Mayor Well, better late than never.

市长 好吧，迟到总比不到好。

It took me watching this scene a few times, trying to figure out why it sounded so familiar.

我看了好几遍这个场景，试图弄清楚为什么它听起来如此熟悉。

And then I was like, oh, yeah.

然后我就想，哦，是的。

At the height of the protest outside the White House, President Trump was moved for a time to the bunker, something that hasn't happened since 9/11.

在白宫外抗议最激烈的时候，特朗普总统一度被转移到地堡，这是自 9/11 事件以来从未发生过的情况。

I was there for a tiny, little short period of time, and it was much more for an inspection.

我在那里待了很短很短的一段时间，更多的是为了检查。

There was no--

没有——

Anyway, there aren't only 47 cases for long.

无论如何，长期存在的不仅仅是47例。

And that is largely due to the efforts of Pete and Liz and their friends.

这很大程度上归功于皮特和莉兹以及他们的朋友们的努力。

They wage a campaign to spread the virus intentionally, by subterfuge.

他们发起一场运动，通过诡计故意传播病毒。

Liz and the Sack volunteer to hand out masks to their fellow citizens, breathing on them first.

莉兹和萨克人自愿向同胞分发口罩，并先戴上口罩呼吸。

While the Sack made sure that every mask was specially treated with the virus, I made sure that nobody got away without one.

虽然麻袋确保每个口罩都经过病毒特殊处理，但我确保每个人都可以在没有口罩的情况下逃脱。

I was in charge of transportation, assisted by Conrad.

我负责交通，康拉德协助。

Our specialty was the subway at rush hour.

我们的专长是高峰时段的地铁。

Where the biggest crowds were breathing in, we were there, breathing out.

在最大的人群吸气的地方，我们也在呼气。

They breathe on peanuts and feed them to the pigeons.

他们吸食花生并将其喂给鸽子。

Liz and another friend get jobs as burlesque dancers.

莉兹和另一位朋友找到了滑稽舞者的工作。

Their shtick is blowing soap bubbles into people's faces.

他们的伎俩是将肥皂泡吹到人们脸上。

And in just a couple of days, the number of cases explodes to about two million, about a quarter of the city's population.

短短几天内，病例数激增至约 200 万例，约占该市人口的四分之一。

Cabbies stop in the middle of the street to let pedestrians cross in front of them.

出租车司机会停在街道中间，让行人在他们面前过马路。

Marriage license applications flood City Hall, Pete and Liz's among them.

市政厅里充斥着结婚证申请，皮特和莉兹也在其中。

Barbershop lines are staggering.

理发店的队伍排得惊人。

People literally dance in the streets with joy.

人们在街上高兴地跳舞。

It's a disaster.

这是一场灾难。

Finally, the president's envoy is helicoptered into New York City to save the day and, frankly, to save the movie.

最后，总统的特使被直升机送往纽约市以拯救世界，坦率地说，也是为了拯救这部电影。

It's Dom Deluise from Blazing Saddles, Space Balls, Robin Hood, Men in Tights.

这是《炽热马鞍》、《太空球》、《罗宾汉》、《裤袜男》中的多姆·德路易斯。

Dom Deluise.

多姆·德路易斯。

I love Dom Deluise.

我爱多姆·德路易斯。

He looms so large in my childhood comedy pantheon.

他在我童年的喜剧万神殿中显得如此重要。

He's atomically funny, even in this very not good film.

即使在这部非常糟糕的电影中，他也非常有趣。

His character, Jay Gardner Monroe, is way more confident and bossy and conceited than he is capable.

他饰演的杰伊·加德纳·梦露比他的能力更加自信、专横和自负。

He snaps his fingers at his aides, uses the word "repeat" before repeating himself, like a military general.

他对助手们打了个响指，在重复自己之前说了“重复”这个词，就像一位将军一样。

Anyway, he heads straight to the bunker and tells the mayor and everyone that if the toucan isn't caught before the tally reaches 3 million cases, he's putting plan CC-27 into effect.

不管怎样，他径直前往地堡，告诉市长和所有人，如果在病例总数达到 300 万例之前没有抓住这只巨嘴鸟，他将实施 CC-27 计划。

The bridges, tunnels, airports will be closed.

桥梁、隧道、机场将关闭。

Repeat, closed!

重复一遍，关闭！

Not one single person will get in or out of New York.

没有一个人可以进出纽约。

But Mr. Monroe, do you realize we have 52 conventions coming in next week?

但是门罗先生，您知道下周我们将举行 52 场大会吗？

Conventions?

惯例？

Do you realize what would happen if this got to Washington?

你知道如果这件事传到华盛顿会发生什么吗？

Republicans agreeing with Democrats and vice versa?

共和党同意民主党，反之亦然？

This bird could destroy our two-party system, the very foundation of our great democracy.

这只鸟可能会摧毁我们的两党制度，这是我们伟大民主的基础。

The tally board is at 2.2 million cases at this point.

目前统计板的病例数为 220 万例。

And this is really the final and maybe most alarming parallel between our story and real life.

这确实是我们的故事和现实生活之间最后的、也许是最令人震惊的相似之处。

As Monroe watches the numbers tick upward, he shakes his head in disgust.

当门罗看着数字不断上升时，他厌恶地摇摇头。

Those commies sure are sneaky.

那些共产主义者确实很狡猾。

Oh, come on.

哦，来吧。

You don't think for one moment that this thing is just an accident, do you?

你不会有一刻认为这件事只是一场意外吧？

Do you?

你？

When that bird landed on that ship, its position was--

当那只鸟落在那艘船上时，它的位置是——

Longitude 82, latitude 24.

经度82，纬度24。

Jay Gardner Monroe 24.

杰·加德纳·门罗 24.

Not very far from Cuba, eh?

离古巴不是很远吧？

Take my word for it.

相信我的话。

That bird is a hook-nosed missile sent here by You Know Who.

那只鸟是神秘人派来的钩鼻导弹。

You Know Who-- Fidel Castro.

你知道谁——菲德尔·卡斯特罗。

Jay Gardner Monroe Look at the facts.

杰·加德纳·门罗 看看事实。

When people get the bug, they suddenly love the world.

当人们感染了这种病毒时，他们会突然爱上这个世界。

Now if You Know Who was getting ready to act up again, what would be better than to give Americans a sense of security, a false sense of security and euphoria?

现在，如果你知道谁准备再次行动，还有什么比给美国人一种安全感、一种虚假的安全感和欣快感更好的呢？

Mr. Monroe, you're not suggesting this virus was artificially produced in a laboratory?

门罗先生，您不是说这种病毒是在实验室人工产生的吗？

Medical impossibility.

医疗不可能。

Just couldn't have happened.

根本不可能发生。

That's what they said about the power failure here in New York in '65.

这就是他们对 65 年纽约停电事件的评价。

And what about the Asian flu?

那么亚洲流感呢？

That came straight, believe you me, from red China.

相信我，那是直接来自红色中国的。

Of course, it's satire, and in that way, it's cathartic.

当然，这是讽刺，因此也是宣泄。

But when I got to that scene, it suddenly felt like every other part of the movie had been an escape from what's going on.

但当我到达那个场景时，突然感觉电影的其他部分都是对正在发生的事情的逃避。

It's funny that one of the most ludicrous pieces of dialogue is also practically a quote we've heard in the news in 2020, and not as a joke.

有趣的是，最荒唐的对话之一实际上也是我们在 2020 年新闻中听到的一句话，而不是一个笑话。

There's so much more of the story left, but just to abridge, so they finally manage to isolate the virus.

故事还有很多，但只是为了删节，所以他们最终成功地分离出了病毒。

Amazingly, because it's a movie, they develop a vaccine, like, that day.

令人惊讶的是，因为这是一部电影，他们开发了一种疫苗，就像那天一样。

But they still have to test it out.

但他们仍然需要进行测试。

So they spray it in Pete and Liz's nuptial bed in the hotel room where they're spending their wedding night and set up a hidden camera behind the air vent.

于是他们把它喷在皮特和莉兹在酒店房间里度过新婚之夜的床上，并在通风口后面安装了一个隐藏的摄像头。

Everybody in the bunker, the mayor, the Fauci character, Jay Gardner Monroe, all of them sit and monitor the couple on a big screen as morning arrives.

地堡里的每个人，市长，福奇扮演的角色，杰伊·加德纳·门罗，都坐在大屏幕上，在早晨到来时监视着这对夫妇。

Liz wakes up to Pete coming back from an errand.

莉兹醒来时发现皮特出差回来了。

He's still wearing his suit, but he's disheveled, messy hair, smoking.

他仍然穿着西装，但头发凌乱，头发凌乱，还抽烟。

Good morning, darling.

早上好，亲爱的。

I didn't hear you.

我没听见你说话。

Couldn't sleep.

睡不着。

Went out for coffee and cigarettes.

出去喝咖啡、抽烟。

Room service is probably up, and I'll order breakfast.

客房服务可能已经开始了，我去点早餐。

Oh, but Pete, you really should eat something.

哦，但是皮特，你真的应该吃点东西。

Don't bug me!

别打扰我！

Sean Cole Jay Gardner Monroe, watching on the monitor from the bunker, is psyched.

肖恩·科尔·杰·加德纳·门罗在地堡里通过监视器观看比赛，他很兴奋。

Well, he's back to normal.

还好，他恢复正常了。

It worked, doc.

它起作用了，博士。

Not her, she doesn't seem to have changed a bit.

不是她，她似乎没有一点变化。

And I don't know what this says about me, but of all the scenes in the movie, this is the one I remember the most clearly from the first time I saw it.

我不知道这对我来说意味着什么，但在电影的所有场景中，这是我第一次看到它时记得最清楚的一个。

I've actually kind of carried it around all of these years because it's genuinely so sad.

事实上这些年来我一直带着它，因为它真的很悲伤。

Liz looks like her heart is breaking in real time.

莉兹看起来心都碎了。

No, don't ask me to go back.

不，别叫我回去。

Remember what we had.

记住我们拥有的。

Remember it.

记住它。

Cling to it.

坚持下去。

You're kidding yourself.

你在开玩笑吧。

You talk about goodness and kindness.

你谈论善良和仁慈。

Read the front page and try and find some.

阅读首页并尝试找到一些。

Pete, I can't go back.

皮特，我回不去了。

I couldn't live that kind of life ever again.

我再也不能过那样的生活了。

Pete shrugs.

皮特耸耸肩。

Pete OK.

皮特 好的。

You drink your poison, and I'll drink mine.

你喝你的毒，我也喝我的。

There's no doubt about him.

他是毫无疑问的。

That was certainly a positive reaction.

这当然是一个积极的反应。

Positive.

积极的。

There's a happy ending.

有一个幸福的结局。

Liz decides to leave New York and move home, but at the very last minute, she goes to say goodbye to Amigo, the bird, who's in a zoo now.

莉兹决定离开纽约搬回家，但在最后一刻，她去告别现在在动物园里的阿米戈。

And Pete's there, too.

皮特也在那儿。

Liz?

丽兹？

Liz!

丽兹！

Sean Cole They do that romcom running thing.

肖恩·科尔（Sean Cole）他们做浪漫喜剧的制作。

Pete!

皮特！

Sean Cole And just like that, they're back together.

肖恩·科尔：就这样，他们又回到了一起。

The city spews the vaccine into the air via factory chimneys and exhaust pipes, and most of New York lives miserably ever after.

该市通过工厂烟囱和排气管将疫苗喷入空气中，纽约大部分地区从此过着悲惨的生活。

But some people stay pleasant and uplifted because, major plot twist, 50% of the people who seem to be infected actually never got the virus in the first place.

但有些人仍然保持愉快和振奋，因为主要的情节转折是，50% 的看似被感染的人实际上从未感染过该病毒。

The joy just rubbed off on them.

喜悦刚刚降临在他们身上。

And Liz was one of those people, which is why she didn't get, quote unquote, "better" in the hotel room, which is actually the moral of the movie, that happiness is a choice.

莉兹就是其中之一，这就是为什么她没有在酒店房间里得到“更好”的原因，这实际上是电影的寓意，幸福是一种选择。

But watching the movie during this pandemic, I drew another darker conclusion.

但在这次大流行期间观看这部电影，我得出了另一个更黑暗的结论。

Somehow, that wiggly weird jolt of recognition I got over and over again, what it felt like was, this is how it goes.

不知何故，我一次又一次地得到那种奇怪的认可的震动，感觉就是，事情就是这样。

When faced with a crisis like this, governments will minimize the severity of the danger.

当面临这样的危机时，政府会尽量减少危险的严重程度。

They'll value the wrong things.

他们会看重错误的事物。

They'll focus on the economy over people's lives and blame foreigners in an ugly, xenophobic way.

他们会关注经济而不是人们的生活，并以丑陋、仇外的方式指责外国人。

I'm sure there's a version of America where all that might not happen, but we're not living in that America right now.

我确信有一个版本的美国，所有这些可能都不会发生，但我们现在并不生活在那个美国。

And Pete and Liz weren't living in it either.

皮特和莉兹也不住在里面。

If it's possible for human beings to do the wrong thing, we'll figure out a way.

如果人类有可能做错事，我们就会想办法。

We're resourceful like that.

我们就是这样足智多谋。

Sean Cole is one of the producers of our show.

肖恩·科尔是我们节目的制片人之一。

Act Three: Director’s Cut Ira Glass Act Three, "Director's Cut." So our show today is about people who have a very particular take on some film.

第三幕：导演剪辑版 Ira Glass 第三幕，“导演剪辑版”。所以我们今天的节目是关于那些对某些电影有非常独特看法的人。

And the person in this next story finds himself in a situation that not many of us are ever going to be in.

下一个故事中的人发现自己处于我们大多数人都不会遇到的境地。

His ex-wife decided to revisit the part of their lives as their marriage fell apart and make a movie about it, or anyway, about a couple whose life seems very, very parallel to theirs in lots of ways.

他的前妻决定重新审视他们婚姻破裂时的生活，并拍一部关于这件事的电影，或者无论如何，关于一对生活在很多方面与他们的生活非常相似的夫妇的电影。

This fictional couple gets married real young.

这对虚构的夫妇很年轻就结婚了。

They're trying to make it in LA.

他们正试图在洛杉矶取得成功。

The woman gets a big break.

女人得到了很大的突破。

She leaves the husband at that point.

那时她离开了丈夫。

This all happened in real life, too.

这一切也发生在现实生活中。

The guy's name is Will Weldon.

这个人的名字叫威尔·韦尔登。

Elna Baker explains what happened next.

埃尔娜·贝克解释了接下来发生的事情。

Will heard about the movie from some friends when his ex-wife started working on it.

当威尔的前妻开始拍摄这部电影时，他从一些朋友那里听说了这部电影。

The very thought of it made him anxious.

一想到这个，他就感到焦虑。

His ex, Rebecca, eventually brought it up with him.

他的前任丽贝卡最终向他提起了这件事。

She said the film was only loosely based on their marriage, which definitely did not help.

她说这部电影只是松散地基于他们的婚姻，这绝对没有帮助。

He tried to put it out of his head.

他试图把它从脑海中抹去。

A year and a half later, he was scrolling around online.

一年半后，他开始在网上浏览。

And I saw on Facebook people posting the trailer for the movie and being like, hey, go see this movie if it's in a theater near you, because it was made by Rebecca Adelman, and she's great and so funny.

我在 Facebook 上看到人们发布了这部电影的预告片，然后说，嘿，如果你附近的剧院有的话，就去看这部电影吧，因为它是丽贝卡·阿德尔曼 (Rebecca Adelman) 制作的，她很棒，也很有趣。

And I saw those popping up, and then I just had this moment where I was like, oh, the moment is here.

我看到那些突然出现，然后我就想，哦，这一刻就在这里。

And that was when I was filled with the most dread.

那是我内心充满最恐惧的时候。

What were those thoughts?

那些想法是什么？

Will Weldon For me, the thing I was the most afraid of is that the movie would portray me accurately.

威尔·韦尔登（Will Weldon） 对我来说，我最害怕的就是电影会准确地描绘我。

Will's candid about his flaws.

威尔对自己的缺点很坦诚。

Admits he was kind of a dud as a husband.

承认自己作为丈夫有点不称职。

Will and Rebecca met when she was 23.

威尔和丽贝卡在她 23 岁时相识。

He was just 19.

他当时才 19 岁。

They were together for eight years, married for almost five.

他们在一起八年了，结婚也快五年了。

During that time, he was mostly unemployed, though he eventually started doing part-time work, walking dogs and house sitting.

在那段时间里，他大部分时间都处于失业状态，尽管他最终开始做兼职工作、遛狗和看家。

He did some stand-up, but not very often.

他做了一些单口喜剧，但并不经常。

Mostly, he'd spend his time--

大多数情况下，他会花时间——

Refreshing Gawker, or I was playing Playstation, or I was literally just sitting there, thinking about how I should be doing something.

刷新 Gawker，或者我正在玩 Playstation，或者我只是坐在那里，思考我应该如何做某事。

I had no actual goals, and I wasn't striving for anything.

我没有真正的目标，也没有为任何事情奋斗。

That was, I think, the defining quality that ended our marriage.

我认为，这就是结束我们婚姻的决定性品质。

Because she was the ambitious one and disciplined.

因为她是一位雄心勃勃且自律的人。

She wanted to be a TV writer.

她想成为一名电视作家。

She'd wake up early to work on scripts.

她会早起写剧本。

And when he watched the trailer, that was in it.

当他观看预告片时，就在其中。

And she is the harder worker and actually wants things.

她工作更努力，也更想要东西。

Woo!

哇！

My wife is the smartest woman in the world!

我的妻子是世界上最聪明的女人！

Look how awesome she is!

看看她多棒啊！

We're going to be rich.

我们会变得富有。

Can I get a Nintendo?

我可以买任天堂吗？

Seeing the trailer made it so much worse.

看到预告片让情况变得更糟。

Now he realized the film would probably return him to some very painful times he'd rather not relive, like the way their marriage ended.

现在他意识到这部电影可能会让他回到一些他不想重温的非常痛苦的时刻，就像他们婚姻结束的方式一样。

To me at the time, it really felt like it came out of nowhere.

对当时的我来说，真的感觉它是凭空而来的。

She got home from work, and she just had a very strange-- you know the way people will start a-- they'll be like, so.

她下班回到家，她只是有一种非常奇怪的感觉——你知道人们开始的方式——他们会这样，所以。

And then she sat me down and she was just telling me about how she was unhappy in the relationship, and she had been for a long time.

然后她让我坐下，她只是告诉我她对这段关系感到多么不开心，而且她已经这样很长时间了。

And then me being like, gee, I don't know why this hasn't-- why none of this has come up before.

然后我就想，天啊，我不知道为什么这没有——为什么以前没有出现过。

I just loved her, and I really felt like we should try and give it another chance.

我只是爱她，我真的觉得我们应该再给一次机会。

And she was like, mm, I don't know.

她说，嗯，我不知道。

And at a certain point, we were talking.

在某个时刻，我们正在交谈。

And I was like, who are we fooling here?

我当时想，我们在这里愚弄谁？

It really seems like you're done, and this is done.

看起来你真的已经完成了，这件事已经完成了。

And she was like, OK.

她说，好吧。

Will moved out after just a week, started crashing on friends' couches.

仅仅一周后，威尔就搬了出去，开始在朋友的沙发上过夜。

He was devastated, didn't understand what went wrong.

他很沮丧，不明白出了什么问题。

And there were other scenes from their lives that he'd hate to see in a movie.

他们生活中的其他场景是他不愿意在电影中看到的。

I'm sure there will be conversations with her mom or her sister and her friends.

我确信她会与她的妈妈或她的姐姐以及她的朋友进行对话。

I don't know if they were like, come on, girl.

我不知道他们是否会说，来吧，女孩。

You gotta dump him.

你得甩掉他。

Those will probably be the toughest parts, because I imagine those will be things that will be very based in reality.

这些可能是最困难的部分，因为我想这些将是非常基于现实的事情。

The film, which is called Paper Year, came out in early 2018.

这部名为《纸年》的电影于 2018 年初上映。

It's got 71% on Rotten Tomatoes.

烂番茄上的评分为 71%。

Critics comment on how authentic the couple's love coming undone feels.

评论家评论说这对夫妇的爱情即将破裂的感觉是多么真实。

For a while, Will couldn't bring himself to see it.

有一段时间，威尔无法让自己去看它。

But a month ago, he suggested we watch it together.

但一个月前，他建议我们一起看。

And I was into the idea.

我很喜欢这个想法。

I'm going through a divorce right now.

我现在正在办理离婚手续。

It's a very strange time of life.

这是生命中非常奇怪的时期。

I go on a lot of long walks.

我经常进行长途散步。

I stopped watching television for a year so I wouldn't avoid my feelings.

我已经停止看电视一年了，这样我就不会回避自己的感受。

All I read are self-help books.

我读的都是自助书籍。

And when I go to parties, I corner divorced people and badger them for details about what this was like for them and how they got through it.

当我去参加聚会时，我会把离婚的人逼到角落，缠着他们详细询问他们的情况以及他们是如何度过的。

Divorce is like my own personal disaster porn.

离婚就像我自己的个人灾难色情片。

So watching a movie about a divorce with the person who it happened to, it's all I want to do.

所以，我只想看一部关于与离婚对象离婚的电影。

And Will thought it would make it easier for him to see it for the first time.

威尔认为这会让他第一次看到它时更容易。

This is a better way, to view it with other people, than just, it's 3:00 in the morning.

这是与其他人一起观看的更好方式，而不仅仅是凌晨 3:00。

I'm alone.

我还是孤单一人。

The lights are off.

灯灭了。

I've gotten up in secret, and I'm watching it in the middle of the night so I can just deny having ever seen it if I want to.

我偷偷地起床，在半夜观看它，所以如果我愿意的话，我可以否认曾经看过它。

Hi, puppy.

嗨，小狗。

Will Weldon Hi.

威尔·韦尔登 你好。

This is Jack.

这是杰克。

I met Will where he was staying.

我在威尔住的地方遇见了他。

He's dog sitting at a sleek Los Angeles home overlooking a canyon-- furry throw pillows, an open layout, pomegranate and lemon trees framing your view of the valley, all really expensive.

他的狗坐在洛杉矶一栋时尚的家中，俯瞰着峡谷——毛茸茸的抱枕，开放式的布局，石榴树和柠檬树构成了山谷的景色，所有这些都非常昂贵。

Will is on high alert.

威尔处于高度戒备状态。

Any time I move anything, he is careful to put it back exactly where it had been.

每当我移动任何东西时，他都会小心地将它放回原来的位置。

OK, are we ready?

好的，我们准备好了吗？

Will Weldon [NERVOUS LAUGHTER] Sure.

威尔·韦尔登（紧张的笑声）当然可以。

The movie opens with the couple, Dan and Franny, getting married in a courthouse, which Will and Rebecca also did.

电影以丹和弗兰妮夫妇在法院举行婚礼开始，威尔和丽贝卡也这样做了。

Dan lifts Franny and carries her out.

丹抱起弗兰妮，带她出去。

The couple starts out really in love, having lots of sex, laughing, kissing in bed.

这对夫妇一开始真的很相爱，有很多性行为，大笑，在床上接吻。

I never had a rash.

我从来没有出过皮疹。

There's no rash.

没有皮疹。

I don't know what they're talking about.

我不知道他们在说什么。

He's quite the rascal, aren't you?

他真是个无赖，不是吗？

He's a good boy.

他是个好孩子。

Wait, can I just point out the dog that you're house sitting in this movie is literally the same breed of dog that is sitting under the table right now.

等等，我可以指出这部电影中你家的狗实际上和现在坐在桌子底下的狗是同一品种的狗吗？

Yeah, it's like a Jack Russell Chihuahua mix that he's dog sitting.

是的，就像杰克罗素吉娃娃混血一样，他在照顾狗。

And I am also dog sitting a Jack Russell Chihuahua mix.

我也是一只杰克罗素吉娃娃混种狗。

In fact, the house in the film where Dan and Franny do their dog sitting is a lot like the house Will and I are sitting in at this very moment.

事实上，电影中丹和弗兰妮遛狗的房子很像我和威尔此时此刻所坐的房子。

Similar layout and decor, same view.

相似的布局和装饰，相同的景色。

No, I want to finish this.

不，我想完成这件事。

Elna Baker In another scene, Franny is sitting at her computer working on a script.

埃尔娜·贝克（Elna Baker）在另一个场景中，弗兰妮坐在电脑前写剧本。

Dan is trying to get her attention.

丹试图引起她的注意。

It's just you writing for your dumb job.

这只是你在为你的愚蠢工作而写作。

Come on, swim.

来吧，游泳。

Swim.

游泳。

Later.

之后。

Elna Baker The real life version of this would actually play out a little differently-- less fun and more sad.

埃尔娜·贝克（Elna Baker）现实生活中的情况实际上会有所不同——更少乐趣，更多悲伤。

Will says he'd do everything he could to get out of her way when she was working.

威尔说，当她工作时，他会尽一切努力不妨碍她。

I would just disappear.

我就会消失。

I'd wheel the TV into the bedroom and watch it in there, just so it wouldn't be distracting.

我会把电视推到卧室里看，这样就不会分散注意力。

The movie-- which, I'll admit, I'm the target audience for-- I liked it.

这部电影——我承认，我是它的目标观众——我喜欢它。

Marriage made Franny unhappy in the same way it made me unhappy, like my life had ended.

婚姻让弗兰妮不快乐，就像它让我不快乐一样，就像我的生命结束了一样。

I spent so much time thinking about whether or not I wanted to be with my husband, but I couldn't tell him that.

我花了很多时间思考我是否想和我的丈夫在一起，但我不能告诉他。

So we had nothing to talk about, because if he asked me what I was thinking, the real answer would have been, I'm not sure if I love you anymore.

所以我们没什么可谈的，因为如果他问我在想什么，真正的答案是，我不确定我是否还爱你。

The scene that Will feared of Franny confiding in her mom and friends about all her husband's terrible qualities and everyone saying what they really think of him, that never happens.

威尔害怕弗兰妮向妈妈和朋友吐露她丈夫所有糟糕的品质，而每个人都说出他们对他的真实想法，这一幕从未发生过。

There's no scene where anyone badmouths him, none at all.

没有任何场景有人说他坏话，根本没有。

No one tells anyone to dump the loser.

没有人告诉任何人抛弃失败者。

Instead, what happens is much more interesting.

相反，发生的事情要有趣得多。

Late in the film, Franny sits down to talk to her mom about her marriage.

在电影的最后，弗兰妮坐下来和她妈妈谈论她的婚姻。

In the scene, she's trying to convince herself to stay with him.

在场景中，她试图说服自己留在他身边。

Will sits forward in his seat.

威尔坐在座位上靠前的位置。

The day his marriage fell apart, Will came home and Rebecca was on the couch crying.

婚姻破裂的那天，威尔回到家，丽贝卡坐在沙发上哭泣。

She said she'd been talking to her mom, but he never knew what their conversation was about.

她说她一直在和她妈妈说话，但他从来不知道他们的谈话内容。

He felt like he was getting to see it now.

他感觉自己现在就要亲眼目睹了。

In the scene, Franny, played by Eve Hewson, talks to her mom, played by Andie MacDowell.

在场景中，伊芙·休森饰演的弗兰妮与安迪·麦克道威尔饰演的妈妈交谈。

Maybe it's just like the first year of marriage is the hardest, you know, like that old saying?

也许这就像结婚的第一年是最艰难的，你知道，就像那句老话一样？

And in a few years, I'll look back on it and laugh.

几年后，当我回想起这件事时，我会发笑。

Baby, look at me.

宝贝，看着我。

That saying is bull-[BLEEP].

这句话太牛了-[BLEEP]。

The first year should be your best.

第一年应该是你最好的一年。

If it wasn't, none of us would stick around, because it only gets harder, much harder.

如果不是，我们谁都不会留下来，因为事情只会变得越来越难。

It's-- just, like, seeing how upset she is, that sucks.

只是，就像看到她有多沮丧，这很糟糕。

She felt really bad.

她感觉真的很糟糕。

This is just a bad feeling for someone to have to go through.

对于某人来说，这只是一种必须经历的不好的感觉。

Well, just-- I don't think I was incorrect to focus on my own struggles during the whole process of splitting up.

嗯，只是——我认为在整个分手过程中我专注于自己的挣扎并没有错。

But it did kind of prevent me from thinking about hers as well.

但这确实也阻止了我思考她的事情。

I just didn't have as much of an appreciation for the difficulty of it.

我只是没有意识到它的难度。

The misery that goes into that choice.

这个选择带来的痛苦。

It-- also is a little bit of a relief that it was hard for her.

这对她来说也很困难，这也让她松了一口气。

If it had been very easy for her to end things, I would have felt like such absolute trash.

如果她能轻易结束这一切，我会觉得自己就是个十足的垃圾。

If, just one day, she'd come home and been like, you know what?

如果有一天，她回家后会说，你知道吗？

Not for me.

不适合我。

Bye, pal.

再见，朋友。

But that's the story you've kind of been telling yourself.

但这就是你一直在给自己讲的故事。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Elna Baker For years, Will had been telling himself the same version of their breakup, something he'd sandpaper down into this.

埃尔娜·贝克（Elna Baker） 多年来，威尔一直在告诉自己关于他们分手的同一个版本，他会用砂纸打磨成这样。

Rebecca got her big break and then she dumped him out of the blue.

丽贝卡获得了重大突破，然后突然甩掉了他。

He was heartbroken.

他心碎了。

She was happy and thriving.

她很快乐，蒸蒸日上。

Moving on was easy for her.

继续前进对她来说很容易。

But watching this, it came flooding back-- at least a year, maybe more, when Rebecca was sad before their breakup.

但看到这一幕，这种感觉又涌了上来——至少一年，也许更久，丽贝卡在分手前感到悲伤的时候。

It was like time traveling through all this pain that he deleted from his memory.

就好像时间穿越了所有这些被他从记忆中删除的痛苦。

We asked Rebecca to come talk about her movie with Will.

我们邀请丽贝卡和威尔谈论她的电影。

She met us at the house where Will was house sitting.

她在威尔主持的房子里遇见了我们。

It's a little awkward.

有点尴尬。

They talk about the weather and traffic.

他们谈论天气和交通。

In the six years since their marriage ended, they've never had a conversation about it.

自从他们的婚姻结束后的六年里，他们从未谈论过这件事。

And for her, understandably, this did not seem like the best way to begin one, by talking about her movie.

对她来说，可以理解的是，这似乎不是开始谈论她的电影的最佳方式。

And I mean this in a certain sense-- it has nothing to do with Will.

我的意思是在某种意义上——它与威尔无关。

It's its own movie, and it's not a documentary.

这是它自己的电影，而不是纪录片。

So I kind of object to the idea that we're going to read into this movie, and we're going to use it as some kind of secret code to understand this real life relationship that existed.

所以我有点反对我们要读这部电影的想法，我们要用它作为某种秘密代码来理解现实生活中存在的关系。

But also, I feel like the way you're saying, it's like, I just made a movie.

而且，我感觉就像你说的那样，就像我刚刚拍了一部电影。

It was just a movie.

这只是一部电影。

Why are you reading into this movie?

你为什么读这部电影？

But I feel like there are-- it's more specifically related to an experience that you had.

但我觉得有——它更具体地与你的经历有关。

Sure, but I'm not the first person to do such a thing.

当然可以，但我不是第一个做这种事的人。

He had to be a dog walker.

他必须是一名遛狗者。

Rebecca Well, but I--

丽贝卡 好吧，但是我——

I said that's why I knew-- I was like, he's going to dog sit and he's going to have no ambition.

我说这就是为什么我知道——我当时想，他会坐以待毙，他不会有野心。

Yeah.

是的。

I guess I always thought of that character as not someone without ambition, but someone who was afraid.

我想我一直认为这个角色不是一个没有野心的人，而是一个害怕的人。

And that's not me looking at you, going like, that's really who you are.

那不是我在看着你，就像，这就是你真正的样子。

Will tells Rebecca what he told me, how the most emotional part of the movie was seeing her side of things, how hard it was for her to decide to break up, and then to finally do it.

威尔告诉丽贝卡他告诉我的事情，电影中最激动人心的部分是如何看到她的一面，她决定分手是多么困难，然后最终做到了。

It felt bad because it was just her trying to justify not ending it or trying to convince herself it'll get better.

这感觉很糟糕，因为这只是她试图证明不结束它的合理性，或者试图说服自己事情会变得更好。

And that was a very emotional thing for me, and the most affecting part of the movie-- like, hard to watch.

这对我来说是一件非常情绪化的事情，也是电影中最感人的部分——就像，很难看。

Is it because it reminded you of that last sort of big conversation we had that was emotional?

是因为它让你想起我们最后一次充满感情的大型谈话吗？

It felt bad because it reminded me of you having to do yourself kind of all of the recognizing of the problems in the relationship.

这感觉很糟糕，因为它让我想起你必须自己去认识到这段关系中的所有问题。

I just hadn't ever considered the journey to coming to that point in that conclusion, and how difficult it is to do that.

我只是没有考虑过达到这个结论的过程，以及做到这一点有多么困难。

That's clear, right?

这很清楚，对吧？

That makes sense?

这有道理吗？

I think so.

我想是的。

I mean, is this now the part of the show where we just talk about our breakup that you want me to respond?

我的意思是，现在是节目中我们谈论分手的部分，你想让我回应吗？

Yeah, I mean, I don't really want to get into it, but that was a really tough period.

是的，我的意思是，我真的不想参与其中，但那是一段非常艰难的时期。

And those were really kind of weirdly dark, confusing times.

那确实是一个奇怪的黑暗、混乱的时代。

And I think that's why I wrote this.

我想这就是我写这篇文章的原因。

It wasn't like I was trying to write this so you would understand something.

我写这篇文章并不是为了让你明白一些事情。

I was doing it so that I could understand something.

我这样做是为了能理解一些东西。

I feel like-- so I mean, I obviously relate to this because I'm going through a divorce.

我觉得——所以我的意思是，我显然对此有感触，因为我正在经历离婚。

I left my husband a year ago.

一年前我离开了我的丈夫。

And--

还有——

Oh, more personal info-- my marriage seems really similar to theirs.

哦，更多个人信息——我的婚姻看起来和他们的很相似。

My husband was mostly unemployed.

我丈夫大部分时间都失业了。

I was the one who was working all the time.

我是那个一直在工作的人。

Neither of us were happy.

我们俩都不高兴。

And I had to be the one to call it.

我必须是那个称呼它的人。

I sort of knew.

我有点知道。

And I have to say, I wish he would give me credit, you know?

我不得不说，我希望他能给我信任，你知道吗？

It was really awful and hard and heartbreaking, and I was tormented by it.

这真的很可怕、艰难、令人心碎，我被它折磨着。

And it was the hardest decision I've ever made.

这是我做过的最艰难的决定。

And-- this is my dream realization that my partner could ever have, which is to say, oh, my god, it was hard for you, too.

而且——这是我的伴侣可能实现的梦想，也就是说，哦，天哪，这对你来说也很难。

Are you getting that, or am I projecting?

你明白了吗，还是我在预测？

No, I mean-- it's just, we've been broken up for how long now?

不，我是说——只是，我们已经分手多久了？

Over six years.

六年多了。

Rebecca Yeah, I mean, and I haven't been spending much of that time, thinking, oh, I hope Will understands my perspective someday.

丽贝卡：是的，我是说，我并没有花太多时间思考，哦，我希望威尔有一天能理解我的观点。

I think I've just-- I think it's really nice that maybe there is some kind of mutual middle ground that we're seeing it from.

我想我只是——我认为这真的很好，也许我们可以从中看到某种共同的中间立场。

But I think that I've just-- it was OK for me to let Will have his own path through it.

但我认为我——让威尔走自己的路是可以的。

Will had a story of how things ended that was cemented in his mind.

威尔有一个关于事情如何结束的故事，深深地印在他的脑海里。

And without the film, he would have gone on thinking it, cherry-picking the moments that made him feel the worst.

如果没有这部电影，他会继续思考，挑选那些让他感觉最糟糕的时刻。

Rebecca says if you want your ex to understand your breakup, the best way probably isn't to make a movie about it.

丽贝卡说，如果你想让你的前任理解你的分手，最好的方法可能不是拍一部关于这件事的电影。

It's way too much work and money.

这是太多的工作和金钱。

And the most likely outcome is that they'll hate you for it.

最有可能的结果是他们会因此而恨你。

Elna Baker is one of the producers of our show.

埃尔娜·贝克是我们节目的制片人之一。

Since we first aired this story, both Will and Rebecca each have gotten married.

自从我们第一次播出这个故事以来，威尔和丽贝卡都已经结婚了。

Rebecca has a new TV show called Guilty Party on Paramount Plus.

丽贝卡在 Paramount Plus 上推出了一部名为《罪恶派对》的新电视节目。

And Will has a comedy album out.

威尔还推出了一张喜剧专辑。

To find it, look for Will Weldon on Amazon Music.

要找到它，请在 Amazon Music 上查找 Will Weldon。

Act Four, "The Kid Namastays in the Picture." So our show today is about people who watch a film and then have their own very particular take on it.

第四幕，“照片中的孩子合十礼”。所以我们今天的节目是关于人们观看一部电影然后对这部电影有自己独特的看法的。

And not long ago, I learned about somebody like that.

不久前，我了解到这样一个人。

Here she is in Harry Potter glasses and a onesie with a Gryffindor crest on it, giving her version of the first Harry Potter film.

这张照片中，她戴着哈利·波特眼镜，穿着印有格兰芬多徽章的连体衣，展现了她对第一部哈利·波特电影的演绎。

We meet Harry, aged 10, living in a house.

我们遇见了 10 岁的哈利，他住在一所房子里。

Coming up to stand, take your feet wide, arms out and above your head, house pose.

站起来，双脚张开，双臂伸出，举过头顶，家庭式。

Harry lives at Number 4 Privet Drive.

哈利住在女贞路 4 号。

This is Jaime Amor, the host or, I guess, yoga instructor, of a series of videos called Cosmic Kids Yoga.

这是杰米·阿莫尔（Jaime Amor），一系列名为“宇宙儿童瑜伽”的视频的主持人，或者我猜是瑜伽教练。

Viewership of these videos skyrocketed during quarantine from about 100,000 viewers a day to about a million.

隔离期间，这些视频的观看人数从每天约 10 万人猛增至约 100 万人。

And a lot of her most popular videos for kids are her retelling the stories of children's movies-- Moana or Trolls or Star Wars-- and combining the stories with yoga.

她的许多最受欢迎的儿童视频都是她重述儿童电影的故事——《莫阿娜》、《魔发精灵》或《星球大战》——并将这些故事与瑜伽结合起来。

Back when we first aired today's program at the height of the quarantine, I watched a six-year-old regularly and very happily do yoga for a half hour with these YouTube videos before starting his day of remote learning first grade.

当我们在隔离最严重的时候第一次播出今天的节目时，我经常很高兴地看到一个六岁的孩子用这些 YouTube 视频做半个小时的瑜伽，然后开始他一年级的远程学习。

I would walk by and I would just get totally caught up in these videos.

我路过时就会完全沉浸在这些视频中。

And I have to say, a lot of my pleasure and complete fascination with them was seeing the ingenuity that Jaime Amor uses to incorporate the poses into the storytelling.

我不得不说，我对他们的很多乐趣和完全迷恋是看到杰米·阿莫尔巧妙地将这些姿势融入到讲故事中。

Like, for example, warrior pose for Elsa, making snow and ice in Frozen.

例如，《冰雪奇缘》中，战士为艾尔莎摆出造雪和冰的姿势。

Forward bends as Alice in Wonderland leans over to take a drink from the bottle that says "drink me" on it.

当《爱丽丝梦游仙境》中的爱丽丝倾身从写着“喝我”的瓶子里喝水时，身体前倾。

In The Wizard of Oz, when the tornado arrives, Dorothy is on her bed, in bed pose, of course.

在《绿野仙踪》中，当龙卷风来袭时，多萝西躺在床上，当然是摆着床上姿势。

Look out the window.

看看窗外。

There's that mean lady from the village.

村里有个卑鄙的女人。

She's riding a bicycle in the sky.

她骑着自行车在天上飞。

Lying on your backs, criss cross your fingers.

仰卧，手指交叉。

Bicycle pose, of course.

当然是自行车姿势。

Pada Sanchalanasana.

帕达桑查拉纳式。

Lift up your legs and pedal your legs like you're riding a bicycle.

抬起双腿，像骑自行车一样蹬腿。

She's cackling like a witch.

她像个女巫一样咯咯笑。

[CACKLES] But she's not riding a bicycle anymore.

[咯咯笑]但她不再骑自行车了。

She's on a broomstick with a black hat.

她骑着扫帚，戴着黑帽子。

She really is a witch.

她确实是一个女巫。

Coming into broomstick pose, lying on your tummies, everyone.

大家摆出扫帚姿势，趴在地上。

Take your arms down by your side, and lift your feet and chest up at the same time, going, whoosh!

将双臂放在身体两侧，同时抬起双脚和胸部，嗖嗖！

The videos are actually structured like a real yoga class, always starting with a sitting pose and namaste, and always ending with shavasana, resting pose.

这些视频的结构实际上就像真正的瑜伽课程一样，总是以坐姿和合十礼开始，总是以摊倒式（休息姿势）结束。

Lying all the way down.

一路躺着。

Ira Glass And each of the videos plays a little half-hour yoga appreciation of movie, though they're all kid's films, so Jaime Amor's kid-friendly tone matches them perfectly.

Ira Glass 每个视频都会播放半小时的瑜伽电影欣赏，尽管它们都是儿童电影，所以 Jaime Amor 的儿童友好语气与它们完美匹配。

But putting together today's program, we wondered what it would be like if she took on a film that's made for grownups and beloved by grownups, not by kids.

但在整理今天的节目时，我们想知道如果她拍摄一部为成年人制作并受到成年人而非孩子们喜爱的电影，会是什么样子。

So we reached out to her and her husband, Martin, who makes these videos with her.

因此我们联系了她和她的丈夫马丁，他和她一起制作了这些视频。

And they were into it.

他们很投入。

And we considered a bunch of different films to turn into yoga-- Silence of the Lambs and Pulp Fiction and Parasite, before we settled on this film.

在我们决定拍这部电影之前，我们考虑了很多不同的电影来制作瑜伽——《沉默的羔羊》、《低俗小说》和《寄生虫》。

Jaime Amor prepared this for us.

Jaime Amor 为我们准备了这个。

Thelma and Louise are best friends.

塞尔玛和路易丝是最好的朋友。

Let's do a hug pose, wrapping our arms around our shoulders, like we're hugging our best friend.

让我们做一个拥抱姿势，用手臂搂住肩膀，就像拥抱我们最好的朋友一样。

They set out for a weekend away in the mountains to take a break.

他们出发去山里度周末休息。

On the way, they stop for a cold, refreshing drink at a bar.

途中，他们在酒吧停下来喝了一杯清凉的冷饮。

Thelma dances with a man called Harlan.

塞尔玛与一个名叫哈伦的男人跳舞。

Coming into our dancer pose, standing on one leg, we catch our foot with our hand behind us, and lift it as we reach forwards with our other arm.

摆出舞者姿势，单腿站立，用手在身后抓住脚，然后用另一只手臂向前伸出，抬起脚。

Harlan wants to do more than dancing with Thelma, but she doesn't want to.

哈伦想做的不仅仅是与塞尔玛跳舞，但她不想这么做。

Louise finds them and is so angry at Harlan that she shoots him in the chest.

路易丝发现了他们，并对哈伦非常生气，向他的胸部开了一枪。

Coming into our shooter warrior pose, standing one foot forward, one foot back, we bend our front knee and open our arms wide.

摆出射手战士姿势，一脚向前，一脚向后站立，弯曲前膝盖，张开双臂。

Pow!

噗！

Thelma and Louise whiz off in the car.

塞尔玛和路易丝乘车疾驰而去。

Coming into car pose, sitting with legs out long, arms forward to hold the steering wheel.

进入汽车姿势，双腿伸长坐着，双臂向前握住方向盘。

Oh, dear.

哦亲爱的。

What have they done?

他们做了什么？

On the road, the women meet a handsome, friendly young man called JD.

在路上，她们遇到了一位英俊、友善的年轻人，名叫JD。

Thelma rather likes JD and invites him for a sleepover.

塞尔玛很喜欢 JD，并邀请他去过夜。

In the morning, JD wakes up.

早上，JD醒了。

Coming up to stand, reaching our arms up to the sky, we wave and say, hello, sun.

我们站起来，向天空伸出双臂，挥手说，你好，太阳。

And while Thelma and Louise go to breakfast, JD steals all of Louise's money.

当塞尔玛和路易丝去吃早餐时，JD 偷走了路易丝所有的钱。

Oh, dear.

哦亲爱的。

Thelma feels really bad.

塞尔玛感觉很糟糕。

To fix the situation, Thelma decides to become a robber and steal all the money from a nearby market.

为了解决这个问题，塞尔玛决定成为一名强盗，并从附近的市场偷走所有的钱。

Naughty Thelma.

淘气的塞尔玛。

Now the police are after them.

现在警察正在追捕他们。

Thelma and Louise arrive at the Grand Canyon.

塞尔玛和路易丝抵达大峡谷。

Coming to stand in our mountain pose, standing with our feet hip distance, arms by our side, we become as still and strong as the mountains.

以山式站立，双脚与臀部保持一定距离，双臂放在身体两侧，我们变得像山一样平静而坚强。

They take a breath together, soaking up the incredible view and the peace of this place.

他们一起吸了一口气，享受着这个地方令人难以置信的景色和宁静。

All of a sudden, a helicopter thunders into view.

突然，一架直升飞机轰然进入视野。

Jumping our feet wide and clapping our hands up over our heads.

我们双脚跳得很宽，双手举过头顶。

The dust swirls and the sirens scream.

尘土飞扬，警报声尖叫。

Arms wide, we spin, side to side to side.

张开双臂，我们旋转，从一边到另一边。

They're trapped.

他们被困住了。

Thelma looks at her best friend.

塞尔玛看着她最好的朋友。

Listen, let's not get caught.

听着，我们别被抓住。

Let's keep going.

我们继续吧。

Louise checks if Thelma is sure.

路易丝检查塞尔玛是否确定。

She nods.

她点点头。

Louise cups Thelma's face and kisses her, cupping our faces to feel our cheeks.

路易丝捧着塞尔玛的脸亲吻她，捧着我们的脸感受我们的脸颊。

Louise steps on the gas, stepping one foot forward.

路易丝踩下油门，向前迈出一只脚。

As the car screeches forward, Thelma and Louise clasp hands.

当汽车呼啸而过时，塞尔玛和路易丝紧握双手。

The car flies off the cliff.

车子飞出了悬崖。

Coming into our flying pose, lifting up our back leg, balancing on our standing leg, and taking our arms out wide, we're flying!

摆出飞行姿势，抬起后腿，在站立腿上保持平衡，然后张开双臂，我们就在飞了！

After all that action, we're ready to relax now.

完成所有这些操作后，我们现在准备放松一下。

So we lie down and let our bodies feel heavy.

所以我们躺下来，让身体感到沉重。

We close our eyes, and take a big deep breath.

我们闭上眼睛，深吸一口气。

[INHALES] [EXHALES] Ira Glass Jaime Amor, her yoga videos for kids that mix movies and yoga, but also there are ones which mix video games and yoga and all kinds of other things, are at cosmickids.com.

[吸气] [呼气] Ira Glass Jaime Amor，她为孩子们制作的瑜伽视频，融合了电影和瑜伽，但也有一些融合了电子游戏和瑜伽以及其他各种东西的视频，位于 cosmickids.com。

Or find their free YouTube channel, youtube.com/cosmickidsyoga.

或者查找他们的免费 YouTube 频道 youtube.com/cosmickidsyoga。

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Well, our program was produced today by Lina Misitzis and Noor Gill.

嗯，我们今天的节目是由 Lina Misitzis 和 Noor Gill 制作的。

The people who put together today's show includes Elna Baker, Susan Burton, Ben Calhoun, Dana Chivvis, Sean Cole, Damien Graef, Michelle Harris, Chana Joffe-Walt, Seth Lind, Stowe Nelson, Nadia Reiman, Alyssa Shipp, Christopher Swetala, Matt Tierney, and Diane Wu.

今天节目的制作人包括 Elna Baker、Susan Burton、Ben Calhoun、Dana Chivvis、Sean Cole、Damien Graef、Michelle Harris、Chana Joffe-Walt、Seth Lind、Stowe Nelson、Nadia Reiman、Alyssa Shipp、Christopher Swetala、Matt Tierney 和 Diane Wu。

Production help on today's rerun came from Chloe Weiner.

今天重播的制作由 Chloe Weiner 提供帮助。

Our managing editor is Sarah Abdurrahman.

我们的总编辑是萨拉·阿卜杜拉赫曼 (Sarah Abdurrahman)。

Our executive editor is David Kestenbaum.

我们的执行编辑是大卫·凯斯滕鲍姆。

Special thanks today to Jason Smart, David Selassie, Hong Yan, Xiangqian Wu, Karina Longworth, BA Parker, Adrian Shirk, Paul Scheer, Luke, Sophie, and Olivia, and Cecil Ranieri.

今天特别感谢 Jason Smart、David Selassie、Hong Yan、Xiangqian Wu、Karina Longworth、BA Parker、Adrian Shirk、Paul Scheer、Luke、Sophie、Olivia 以及 Cecil Ranieri。

Our website, where you can listen to any of our over 750 shows for absolutely free, thisamericanlife.org.

我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org，您可以在其中完全免费收听我们 750 多个节目中的任何一个。

This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.

《美国生活》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。

Thanks, as always, to our program's co-founder, Mr. Torey Malatia.

一如既往地感谢我们项目的联合创始人 Torey Malatia 先生。

He recently did 23andMe.

他最近做了《23andMe》。

Torey had never wondered who his father was and then got some surprising news.

托雷从来没有想过他的父亲是谁，然后得到了一些令人惊讶的消息。

It's the mailman!

是邮递员！

Ira Glass I'm Ira Glass.

艾拉·格拉斯 我是艾拉·格拉斯。

Back next week with more stories of This American Life.

下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。

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This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.

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