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Prologue: Prologue Ira Glass When Amy and her dad were loading her mom into the car, Amy didn't think this would be the very last time her mom would go to the hospital.
序言：序言 艾拉·格拉斯 当艾米和她的爸爸把妈妈抬上车时，艾米并不认为这会是妈妈最后一次去医院。
But her dad did.
但她爸爸做到了。
In fact, he called a priest, a priest who Amy's mom, Janet, was friends with, to hear her mom's confession and administer last rights, just in case.
事实上，为了以防万一，他打电话给一位牧师，艾米妈妈珍妮特的朋友，来听她妈妈的忏悔并管理最后的权利。
Her mom had been diagnosed with cancer two years before, and Amy says it was clear she didn't have much time left.
她的妈妈两年前被诊断出患有癌症，艾米说很明显她已经没有多少时间了。
So we got in the car, and I set the GPS for Weill Cornell, and we got on to the Long Island Expressway, and--
所以我们上了车，我为威尔·康奈尔设置了 GPS，然后我们上了长岛高速公路，然后——
Amy had driven this trip dozens and dozens of times over two years of treatment-- to Weill Cornell Hospital in New York City from out in Long Island.
在两年的治疗期间，艾米已经开车数十次从长岛前往纽约市威尔康奈尔医院。
It was a straight shot up the expressway.
这是高速公路上的直线射击。
Amy knows the way by heart, but she always uses the Waze app, because it reroutes when the traffic's bad.
艾米熟记这条路，但她总是使用位智应用程序，因为它会在交通拥堵时重新规划路线。
And I've become, like, such a slave to the GPS, I just follow it like I'm a robot.
我已经成为 GPS 的奴隶，我就像机器人一样跟随它。
And I'm following it, and at one point, my dad's in the backseat.
我跟着它，有一次，我爸爸坐在后座上。
My mom's sitting next to me in the front seat.
我妈妈坐在我旁边的前排座位上。
And at one point, my dad said, like, where are you going?
有一次，我爸爸说，你要去哪里？
Like, why are you going this way?
比如，你为什么要走这条路？
And I don't even know exactly where I was.
我什至不知道我到底在哪里。
I think it had taken me to the Cross Island, and then an exit in Queens.
我想它带我去了十字岛，然后从皇后区出口出去。
And he was like, why are you going this way?
他说，你为什么要走这条路？
And I was like, the GPS says-- I'm just following the GPS-- (LAUGHING) like I always do.
我当时想，GPS 说——我只是跟着 GPS 走——（笑）就像我一直做的那样。
And then it told me to make a left on Broadway in Queens.
然后它告诉我在皇后区的百老汇左转。
I made the left, and dad was like, oh my god, Janet, we're going to go right by-- Janet, do you know where we are?
我向左转，爸爸说，天哪，珍妮特，我们要向右走——珍妮特，你知道我们在哪里吗？
It had taken them right to the neighborhood where her parents were first a couple, working together in his family's business.
他们直接来到了她父母最初是一对夫妇的社区，一起为家族生意工作。
The GPS told them to make a turn.
GPS 告诉他们转弯。
On that corner is a bakery.
那个角落是一家面包店。
It's an old Italian bakery.
这是一家老牌的意大利面包店。
It's been there.
它一直在那里。
And I think I have the name of it somewhere.
我想我在某处知道了它的名字。
Yeah, it's called Parisi's Bakery.
是的，它叫帕里西面包店。
And it's right on the corner there.
它就在拐角处。
It's been there forever.
它一直都在那里。
And my parents used to always pick up their bread for their big Italian meals with my grandmother.
我的父母过去总是和我的祖母一起拿起面包准备意大利大餐。
She would be like, get the bread at Parisi's.
她会说，去帕里西店买面包。
Go to Parisi's.
去帕里西家吧
Get the bread.
拿面包来。
When they were, you know, teenagers.
当他们还是青少年的时候。
Like, when they were, like, 19 and 20, and they were working in Queens.
就像，当他们 19 岁和 20 岁的时候，他们在皇后区工作。
And my dad was freaking out about the bakery, and so I pulled over, and I said, Dad, why don't you get a loaf of bread?
我爸爸对面包店感到害怕，所以我把车停在路边，我说，爸爸，你为什么不买条面包呢？
And he jumped out of the car, and he went and got a loaf of bread and some cookies for my mother.
他跳下车，去给我妈妈买了一条面包和一些饼干。
Amy drives on, and the GPS next routes them right past this diner, the Bel Aire Diner.
艾米继续前行，GPS 接下来引导他们经过这家餐馆，Bel Aire Diner。
--that they had breakfast at every morning when they were in their 20s.
——20多岁的时候，他们每天早上都吃早餐。
Before they would go to the factory, they would go with my grandfather, sometimes with my uncle, too.
在去工厂之前，他们会和我的祖父一起去，有时也会和我的叔叔一起去。
And they would sit at the counter, and they would have, like, a doughnut and coffee, or, like--
他们会坐在柜台前，然后吃甜甜圈和咖啡，或者，比如——
And my dad was pointing at everything, like, and this is where-- and Janet, do you remember?
我爸爸指着一切，就像，这就是——珍妮特，你还记得吗？
We used to go here, and look, I can't believe this is where we are right now.
我们过去常去这里，看看，我不敢相信这就是我们现在所在的地方。
This is crazy.
这太疯狂了。
And there was a restaurant around the corner that's no longer there, that is where my father had proposed to my mom.
拐角处有一家餐馆，但现在已经不存在了，那是我父亲向我妈妈求婚的地方。
It was weird.
很奇怪。
Their little-- that was the world of their beginning.
他们的小世界——那是他们开始的世界。
Those were the blocks they spent the most time on when they were starting out, you know.
你知道，这些是他们刚开始时花最多时间的地方。
It was very strange to just end up right there.
就在那里结束很奇怪。
And how many times had you driven them from their house to this hospital?
你开车送他们多少次从家里到这家医院？
Oh, my god.
我的天啊。
Oh, my god.
我的天啊。
I mean, Oh, god, it's not a number I can even count.
我的意思是，天哪，这不是一个我能数得清的数字。
How many times had it sent you this way?
有多少次它这样送你了？
Never, never.
从来没有，从来没有。
No, we never went that way.
不，我们从来没有走过那条路。
Did you say much?
你说了很多吗？
Or was it really, like, between the two of them for most of it?
还是大部分时间都是他们两人之间的事？
No, he was-- it was really him.
不，他是——真的是他。
It was really Dad just being like, Janet, look at this.
真的是爸爸只是说，珍妮特，看看这个。
Oh my god, do you remember when we used to walk down this way every night after work?
天啊，你还记得我们每天晚上下班后都沿着这条路走吗？
It was like he was like a kid.
他就像个孩子一样。
He was really excited.
他真的很兴奋。
He was really excited to be there, like visiting a museum of your childhood or something, you know.
他很高兴能去那里，就像参观你童年的博物馆之类的，你知道。
Yeah, well, it's like that cliche almost, like that when you're dying, your whole life will flash before your eyes, except you guys were actually, like, doing it on location for real, thanks to the GPS.
是的，好吧，这几乎就像那句陈词滥调，就像当你快要死的时候，你的一生都会在你眼前闪现，除了你们实际上，就像，在真实的位置上，多亏了 GPS。
(LAUGHING) Yeah, exactly.
（笑）是的，完全正确。
Waze really had it planned for us.
Waze 确实为我们计划好了。
[CHUCKLES]
[笑声]
Ira Glass Amy says once they got to Queens, she suddenly found herself in this moment that was really about the two of them as a couple, the couple they were before she was born.
艾拉·格拉斯·艾米说，一旦他们到达皇后区，她突然发现自己处于这一刻，这一刻真正关乎他们两个作为一对夫妇，他们在她出生之前就是一对。
Her parents got together when they were 16.
她的父母16岁时就聚在一起了。
And she says the older she's gotten, the better she's understood how well suited her parents were for each other, in all kinds of ways.
她说，随着年龄的增长，她越能理解父母在各方面都多么适合彼此。
Growing up, she says, every night, they would pull out a guitar after dinner and sing together, the two of them, harmonize on Beatles or Bob Dylan songs just for themselves, because they liked it.
她说，在成长过程中，每天晚上，他们都会在晚饭后拿出吉他，一起唱歌，他们两个，只为自己和甲壳虫乐队或鲍勃·迪伦的歌曲和声，因为他们喜欢它。
Amy says she didn't realize how unusual it was for parents to do till she got older.
艾米说，直到她长大后，她才意识到父母的做法有多么不寻常。
This is a home recording of them from just a few years ago.
这是他们几年前的家庭录音。
[MUSIC - "I'LL FOLLOW THE SUN" BY THE BEATLES]
[音乐 - 披头士乐队的《我将追随太阳》]
And now, the time has come, and so my love, I must go.
现在，时间到了，所以我的爱人，我必须走了。
And though I lose a friend, in the end you will know.
虽然我失去了一个朋友，但最终你会知道。
Oh, oh.
哦，哦。
Amy's mom, Janet, died a week after that ride to the hospital.
艾米的妈妈珍妮特在被送往医院一周后去世。
But in the car that day in Queens, her mom looked around at the stuff her dad was pointing to, and she was in it with him, smiled and said, yes, when he asked, did she see?
但那天在皇后区的车里，她妈妈环顾四周，看着她爸爸指着的东西，她和他在一起，微笑着说，是的，当他问时，她看到了吗？
Meanwhile at the wheel was Amy, the driver.
与此同时，驾驶的是司机艾米。
I'm trying to keep both their spirits up, like a maniac, you know.
我像个疯子一样努力让他们俩保持士气，你知道。
So I'm basically, like, reflecting my father's enthusiasm, and you know, I'm the one that pulled over in front of the bakery and said, just jump out and get a loaf of bread.
所以我基本上反映了我父亲的热情，你知道，我就是那个把车停在面包店前说，跳下车去买一条面包的人。
You know, it's fine.
你知道，没关系。
We're OK.
我们没事。
Like, we weren't-- she was not in pain, and we were there, and it was going to take as long as it was going to take.
就像，我们没有——她没有痛苦，而我们就在那里，而且要花多久就花多久。
And you know, we're Italian, and bread makes us feel better.
你知道，我们是意大利人，面包让我们感觉更好。
So get some bread.
所以买点面包吧。
It's This American Life, by the way.
顺便说一下，这就是《美国生活》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today's episode, we're calling "The Ferryman." It's about people who transport other people to some destination.
今天的这一集，我们称之为“摆渡人”。这是关于将其他人运送到某个目的地的人。
And in preparing for the show today, a bunch of us were looking at the old Greek myth of the ferryman, you know, whose boat carries souls across the river to the afterlife.
在准备今天的节目时，我们一群人正在研究古老的希腊神话中的摆渡人，你知道，他的船载着灵魂穿过河流到达来世。
His name is Charon, and he's just, like, awful.
他的名字叫卡戎（Charon），他简直就是太糟糕了。
It's this frightening figure, the way that Virgil and Dante write about him-- just unruly, white beard, terrifying eyes.
这是维吉尔和但丁描写他的可怕人物——不守规矩、白胡子、可怕的眼睛。
Doesn't seem to talk hardly ever, but when he does, it's pretty aggro, ordering people around.
他似乎很少说话，但当他说话的时候，却非常令人厌恶，对周围的人发号施令。
Kind of, exactly who you would not want to be ferried by in a frightening moment.
有点，正是你不想在可怕的时刻被他接送的人。
Who you'd want, of course, is someone like your own kid, somebody who's actually worried about you, wants to make it as OK as possible.
当然，你想要的人是像你自己的孩子一样的人，一个真正担心你的人，希望尽可能让事情好起来。
Today on our program, we have a bunch of stories of people going from one place to another who need safe passage.
今天在我们的节目中，我们有很多关于人们从一个地方到另一个地方需要安全通行的故事。
And if you picture, like, a long lineup, like a continuum of ferrymen, where at one end is Amy, who's trying to be kind, and at the other end is the immortal ferryman, Charon, who is definitely not, all the ferrymen in today's episode fall at different paths between the two on that lineup.
如果你想象一长排，就像摆渡人的连续体，一端是艾米，她试图变得友善，另一端是不朽的摆渡人卡戎，他绝对不是，今天这一集中的所有摆渡人都在这两个阵容中走上了不同的道路。
We hear about who they are and what gets them through their jobs, where they see so much along the way.
我们了解他们是谁，是什么让他们完成了工作，以及他们一路上看到了很多东西。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, I Was a Teenage Smuggler.
第一幕，我是一名青少年走私者。
So the first story is about a very particular version of the job of getting people from point A to point B.
所以第一个故事是关于将人们从 A 点带到 B 点的一个非常特殊的工作版本。
You've probably heard of all the people trying to illegally cross the Mexican border into the United States recently.
您可能听说过最近有人试图非法越过墨西哥边境进入美国。
It's the most in two decades.
这是二十年来最多的一次。
Here's what you might not know.
以下是您可能不知道的内容。
I didn't know this.
我不知道这个。
Many of the guides ferrying them across the US-Mexican border are kids.
许多运送他们穿越美墨边境的导游都是孩子。
This is mostly because of us, because of the United States.
这主要是因为我们，因为美国。
The US government, as a general matter, does not prosecute smugglers who are under 18.
一般来说，美国政府不会起诉 18 岁以下的走私犯。
So those kids can lead migrants into the country, get caught, and they don't get charged with smuggling or illegally crossing into the United States.
因此，这些孩子可以带领移民进入该国，被抓住，但他们不会被指控走私或非法越境进入美国。
They're just sent right back to Mexico.
他们刚刚被送回墨西哥。
Needless to say, this makes them very attractive for the cartels, who run these big operations crossing migrants.
不用说，这对经营这些大规模跨境移民活动的卡特尔来说非常有吸引力。
Some kids get coerced into doing the job or into staying at the job.
有些孩子被迫做这份工作或留在这份工作。
And it can be dangerous getting so close to the cartels.
与卡特尔如此接近可能会很危险。
But for lots of kids, it's just a job.
但对于很多孩子来说，这只是一份工作。
It's just money, good money.
这只是钱，很好的钱。
Kevin Sieff, a reporter for The Washington Post, spent months with a bunch of these kid smugglers, and got to know them, talked to them about what it was like to do this particular kind of ferrymen's job.
《华盛顿邮报》的记者凯文·西夫（Kevin Sieff）花了几个月的时间与一群儿童走私犯接触，了解了他们，并与他们谈论了从事这种特殊摆渡人工作的感受。
Here's Kevin.
这是凯文。
In parts of northern Mexico, human smuggling almost feels like Little League.
在墨西哥北部的部分地区，人口走私几乎就像少年棒球联盟一样。
The kids boast about who's better-- faster up the border wall, more skilled at hiding from the border patrol.
孩子们夸耀谁更优秀——越过边境墙更快，更擅长躲避边境巡逻人员。
They post on Snapchat about the migrants they cross.
他们在 Snapchat 上发布了有关他们遇到的移民的信息。
On Facebook, one kid I know changed his profession to "smuggler." That's how this other kid, Israel, learned that this was even a job-- on Facebook.
在 Facebook 上，我认识的一个孩子将自己的职业改为“走私者”。就这样，另一个孩子 Israel 才知道这甚至是一份工作——在 Facebook 上。
[SPEAKING SPANISH] Kevin Sieff He was 15, with chubby cheeks and a wispy mustache.
[说西班牙语] Kevin Sieff 他 15 岁，脸颊胖乎乎的，留着稀疏的小胡子。
He liked posting pictures of cute miniature horses.
他喜欢发布可爱的微型马的照片。
One day, he was at his grandma's house, and some clips another boy had posted of his exploits popped up on his feed.
有一天，他在奶奶家，另一个男孩发布的一些关于他的事迹的视频突然出现在他的动态中。
And what did you think when you watched these videos?
当您观看这些视频时有何感想？
[SPEAKING SPANISH] Israel Through Interpreter That I wanted to do it, too.
[说西班牙语] 以色列 通过翻译 我也想这样做。
I saw he was getting a lot of money, and I said, I want to do it, too.
我看到他赚了很多钱，我就说我也想做。
He messaged the guy out of boredom and curiosity.
出于无聊和好奇，他给那个人发了信息。
Can you take me along?
你能带我一起去吗？
The guy said, sure.
那家伙说，当然。
Meet me in my house.
到我家来见我。
And so Israel got dressed the same way he did for school-- jeans, cross trainers.
因此，伊斯雷尔的着装和他上学时一样——牛仔裤、交叉训练鞋。
What are smugglers supposed to wear anyway, he thought.
无论如何，走私者应该穿什么，他想。
And he headed out.
然后他就出去了。
Again, he was 15.
再说一遍，他15岁。
They picked up a handful of migrants who were hiding in a house nearby, and took them to the Rio Grande.
他们救了几名躲在附近房子里的移民，把他们带到了格兰德河。
It was night when they waded into the river.
当他们涉入河中时，已经是晚上了。
The migrants followed behind them in inner tubes.
移民们乘坐内胎跟在他们后面。
Israel helped lead them, pretending he knew what he was doing.
以色列帮助领导他们，假装他知道自己在做什么。
[SPEAKING SPANISH] Israel Through Interpreter I thought, what am I doing?
[说西班牙语] 以色列 通过翻译我想，我在做什么？
But I was already there, and I thought, OK, let's just continue forward.
但我已经在那里了，我想，好吧，让我们继续前进吧。
Once they got to the other side, it was a quick climb over the border wall, about four minutes.
一旦他们到达另一边，就可以快速翻过边界墙，大约需要四分钟。
The other smuggler told Israel the technique-- sort of, like climbing a tree, just a little harder.
另一位走私者告诉以色列这种技巧——有点像爬树，只是用力一点。
They helped the migrants get over, one by one.
他们帮助移民一一渡过难关。
Israel remembers being like, wait, that's it?
以色列记得当时的感觉是，等等，就这样了？
We did it?
我们做到了？
It felt great.
感觉棒极了。
It was easy.
这很容易。
I mean, there were no complications at all.
我的意思是，根本没有任何并发症。
There was not even immigration.
甚至没有移民。
I thought, this isn't even hard.
我想，这并不难。
The people they had crossed looked up at him, this little kid, like he was a boss.
他们遇到的人抬头看着他，这个小孩子，就像他是一个老板一样。
The next morning, Israel, 15 years old, walked across the international bridge to get home, like he was just another tourist returning from shopping in Texas.
第二天早上，15岁的伊斯雷尔走过国际大桥回家，就像另一位从德克萨斯州购物归来的游客一样。
When he got back to Mexico, the cartel paid him a wad of cash for helping out.
当他回到墨西哥后，贩毒集团付给他一大笔现金作为他的帮助。
The normal rate is about $100 per migrant.
正常费用约为每位移民 100 美元。
When I was a little kid, I used to wash cars.
当我还是个小孩子的时候，我经常洗车。
I made what a worker makes in two weeks-- I made it in one night.
我制作了一个工人在两周内制作的东西——我在一晚上就制作完成了。
You feel like money is never going to run out, that you're always going to have money, always, always.
你觉得钱永远不会用完，你永远会有钱，永远，永远。
Once he started doing this more regularly, he'd post pictures of the money he got on Facebook, with emojis of a smiley face with dollar signs for the eyes.
一旦他开始更频繁地这样做，他就会在 Facebook 上发布他收到的钱的照片，上面有笑脸的表情符号，眼睛是美元符号。
This is the engine behind one of the world's largest human migrations.
这是世界上最大规模的人类迁徙之一背后的引擎。
People are handed from smuggler to smuggler, like links in a chain, until they get to the border.
人们像链条上的一环一样从走私犯手中接过走私犯，直到到达边境。
And when they get there, the last guides who take them on the last mile of the journey are teenage boys doing teenage boy things.
当他们到达那里时，带他们走最后一英里旅程的最后导游是十几岁的男孩，他们做着十几岁男孩的事情。
Like, there are these two brothers, Jassiel and Alfonso.
比如，有两兄弟，贾西尔和阿方索。
They're like the class clowns of the smuggling world.
他们就像走私世界的阶级小丑。
Here's Alfonso.
这是阿方索。
The funniest, well, is my brother, because he's, kind of, crazy.
最有趣的是我的兄弟，因为他有点疯狂。
He does things that you shouldn't-- you shouldn't really do at the border patrol.
他做了你不应该做的事情——你在边境巡逻时真的不应该做。
He'll get naked and start running.
他会赤身裸体并开始奔跑。
Like this one time, Jassiel had crossed the river with a group of migrants.
就像这一次，贾西尔和一群移民一起过河。
Border patrol agents showed up, and he started to run.
边境巡逻人员出现了，他开始逃跑。
He knows he can beat them, no problem.
他知道他可以击败他们，没问题。
I already have-- I already have, like, a record for running.
我已经拥有了，比如，跑步记录。
They're older.
他们年纪大了。
They already have, like, wrinkles.
他们已经有了皱纹。
He got back to the riverbank, with them still in pursuit.
他回到河岸，他们仍在追赶。
One of the agents shouted at him.
一名特工对他大喊大叫。
He said the patrol boats were coming.
他说巡逻艇即将到来。
The agent was like, you're stuck.
经纪人说，你被困住了。
There's no way to escape.
没有办法逃脱。
And I said to him, I said, no way.
我对他说，我说，不可能。
There's always a way out.
总有出路。
He told me that, you think you're so-- and I told him, no, well, it's just too bad.
他告诉我，你认为你是如此——我告诉他，不，好吧，这太糟糕了。
I'm not going to let myself get caught.
我不会让自己被抓住。
I said, you do your job, and I'll do mine, and we'll go home happy.
我说，你做你的，我做我的，然后我们就高高兴兴地回家了。
That's when Jassiel took his clothes off, jumped in the river, and swam across to safety.
这时贾西尔脱掉衣服，跳进河里，游到了安全的地方。
You need to come back, and we need to catch you.
你需要回来，我们需要抓住你。
And I said, yes, but today was not your day, man.
我说，是的，但今天不是你的日子，伙计。
Sometimes Jassiel videotapes his crossings and his narrow escapes.
有时贾西尔会录下他的穿越和死里逃生。
It's like proof of how good he is at the job, and a chance to show off.
这就像证明他在工作上有多出色，也是一个炫耀的机会。
Even though the job is illegal, they post the stuff all the time on Snapchat and Facebook, like this one video Jassiel sent me.
尽管这项工作是非法的，但他们总是在 Snapchat 和 Facebook 上发布这些内容，就像 Jassiel 发给我的这段视频一样。
It's of him crossing a big group of migrants.
这是他穿越一大群移民的故事。
[SHOUTING IN SPANISH] Kevin Sieff They're running through a farm on a dirt road.
[用西班牙语喊叫] Kevin Sieff 他们正在一条土路上跑过一个农场。
He's yelling, go, go, go, you didn't come here to stay, at the slowest one, a young woman with short brown hair.
他大喊着，走，走，走，你来这里不是为了留下来，在最慢的时候，一个棕色短发的年轻女人。
Her arms are flailing, like she's at the end of a marathon.
她的手臂挥舞着，就像是马拉松比赛的终点。
She's running barefoot, holding her shoes.
她赤脚奔跑，手里拿着鞋子。
But even though this whole thing feels so intense, Jassiel stops to crouch down on his knees.
但尽管这整件事感觉如此激烈，贾西尔还是停下来跪下。
It looks like he's going for a more dramatic camera angle.
看起来他正在寻找更具戏剧性的拍摄角度。
A white Jeep Cherokee pulls up, and about 15 migrants pile in.
一辆白色吉普切诺基停下来，大约 15 名移民涌了进来。
And then, the video cuts off.
然后，视频就断了。
[SHOUTING IN SPANISH] Kevin Sieff I asked Jassiel if word of his exploits had spread.
[用西班牙语喊叫]凯文·西夫（Kevin Sieff）我问贾西尔他的事迹是否已经传播开来。
Like, is he famous among the other smugglers?
比如，他在其他走私者中很出名吗？
Yes.
是的。
Yes, there are a lot-- I mean, there are two songs about me and my brother.
是的，有很多——我的意思是，有两首歌是关于我和我兄弟的。
First, I was like, yeah, right.
首先，我想，是的，对。
And then, he sent me a link.
然后他给我发了一个链接。
It was a slickly produced song with a video.
这是一首精心制作的歌曲和视频。
Like some of the other kid smugglers, he'd commissioned a local rapper to write it.
和其他一些儿童走私者一样，他委托当地的一位说唱歌手来写这首歌。
Because if you're 15 and making thousands of a day, why not?
因为如果你 15 岁了，每天能赚几千美元，为什么不呢？
Every day, we're crossing the whole border, the chorus goes.
每天，我们都在跨越整个边界，合唱声响起。
Here's the part where they name-check Jassiel and his brother.
这是他们点名贾西尔和他兄弟的部分。
I spent six months talking to dozens of these kids.
我花了六个月的时间与数十个这样的孩子交谈。
And there was one in particular who everyone kept talking about.
其中有一个特别值得大家津津乐道的人。
He's the one who's been at it the longest, who's crossed the most people.
他是坚持时间最长、得罪人最多的人。
And he's just, kind of, fearless about how he does it.
他对自己的做法有点无所畏惧。
He asked me to change his name, so I'm calling him Antonio.
他让我改名，所以我叫他安东尼奥。
We're also altering his voice.
我们也在改变他的声音。
He's become a master of his craft, the Michael Jordan of smuggling.
他已成为技艺大师，走私界的迈克尔·乔丹。
He learned about the job when he was 12 when he was just a little kid with a buzz cut, wearing a school uniform.
他12岁时就知道了这份工作，当时他只是一个留着寸头、穿着校服的小孩子。
[SPEAKING SPANISH] Antonio Through Interpreter Well, I was coming out of school-- I was in, like, the sixth grade, and I was walking.
[说西班牙语] 安东尼奥 通过翻译 嗯，我刚从学校出来——我大概是六年级的，我正在走路。
And well, I bumped into a friend who was older than me, and he said, I'm headed to work.
好吧，我遇到了一个比我年长的朋友，他说，我要去上班了。
He was dressed in full camouflage, like a soldier, and I said, damn, you're going to work?
他穿着全套迷彩服，就像一名士兵，我说，该死，你要去工作吗？
What kind of work?
什么样的工作？
And he said, I take goats to the other side.
他说，我把山羊带到对岸。
And I said, [BLEEP] you take animals over there or what?
我说，[BLEEP] 你把动物带到那里还是什么？
He said, nah, man, I take people over there.
他说，不，伙计，我带人去那里。
They pay me.
他们付钱给我。
They pay me in dollars.
他们用美元付给我工资。
He's been at it five years now.
到现在他已经干了五年了。
The way some kids study game tape, that's how Antonio approaches migration, even if his tactics can sometimes sound, kind of, callous.
一些孩子研究游戏磁带的方式，就是安东尼奥对待迁移的方式，尽管他的策略有时听起来有点冷酷无情。
[SPEAKING SPANISH] Antonio Through Interpreter I always ask for, like, the skinny immigrants, know what I'm saying?
[说西班牙语] 安东尼奥 通过翻译 我总是要求，像瘦骨嶙峋的移民，知道我在说什么吗？
Wait, why skinny?
等等，为什么瘦？
Antonio Through Interpreter So that they can run like I can.
安东尼奥 通过翻译 这样他们就可以像我一样奔跑。
Because if immigration is chasing me or something, I'm not going to wait for anyone.
因为如果移民正在追赶我或其他什么，我不会等待任何人。
Well, I've always worked with a big number of people.
嗯，我一直和很多人一起工作。
I've never worked with a small group of persons, know what I'm saying?
我从来没有和一小群人一起工作过，知道我在说什么吗？
He learned all the curves in the river, and all the tricks, how to brush away the footprints, wear camouflage.
他学会了河里所有的弯道，所有的技巧，如何擦掉脚印，如何穿迷彩服。
He memorized the patrol schedule of the immigration agents.
他记住了移民局人员的巡逻时间表。
One day, we were talking about his favorite crossing points, and he started describing the map of this part of South Texas that he'd built in his head, street by street.
有一天，我们正在谈论他最喜欢的交叉点，他开始描述他在脑海中逐条街道构建的南德克萨斯州这一地区的地图。
He'd memorized the city parks, the local high schools, the places where the mesquite trees are thickest, in case he needs a place to hide.
他记住了城市公园、当地高中、豆科灌木最茂密的地方，以防他需要藏身之处。
Antonio was never great at school or sports, but this, he'd found his thing.
安东尼奥在学校或运动方面从来都表现不佳，但这次，他找到了自己的东西。
Even his stepfather asked him to smuggle him across.
就连他的继父也要求他偷渡。
Antonio was 17.
安东尼奥 17 岁。
And despite a couple of new tattoos, he looks like a kid.
尽管有几个新纹身，他看起来还是个孩子。
Many of the migrants are decades older than he is, tired from the thousands of miles they've already traveled.
许多移民比他年长数十岁，他们已经因长途跋涉而感到疲惫。
So he tries to puff himself up to seem taller than 5' 5".
所以他试图把自己夸大，让自己看起来比 5 英尺 5 英寸高。
He thinks of Al Pacino's character in Scarface, his favorite movie.
他想起了他最喜欢的电影《疤面煞星》中阿尔·帕西诺的角色。
Before the trip even begins, Antonio sits the migrants down and launches into a pep talk.
在旅行开始之前，安东尼奥就让移民们坐下来并开始了鼓舞士气的讲话。
He tries to sound commanding.
他试图让自己听起来像是在指挥。
You see, I say, in a little while, in the forest, we're all gonna walk along my path, all very hidden, crouching down, without making a peep.
你看，我说，一会儿，在森林里，我们都会沿着我的路走，都非常隐蔽，蹲下来，不做任何窥视。
Now, in less than 10 minutes, we're going to go over the wall.
现在，还有不到 10 分钟，我们就要翻墙了。
And when we go over the wall, the guys picking us up will be waiting for us.
当我们翻过墙时，接我们的人会在等我们。
And after climbing down, we're going to take you to a warehouse, and we soon will be on the other side, eating some really good food.
爬下来后，我们会带你去一个仓库，很快我们就会到另一边，吃一些非常好的食物。
Antonio loves to brag about how good a smuggler he is, how hard he is to catch.
安东尼奥喜欢吹嘘他是一个多么出色的走私犯，他是多么难以捉拿。
Some of the other kids roll their eyes at what a loud mouth he is.
其他一些孩子对他的大嘴翻白眼。
He dropped out of middle school to focus on smuggling.
他从中学辍学，专注于走私。
With his earnings, he bought a closet full of Air Force Ones and a car, a Ford Focus.
他用自己的收入买了满满一衣柜的空军一号和一辆福特福克斯汽车。
He gave his mom an allowance.
他给了他妈妈零用钱。
She told me it helped pay the rent and cover household expenses.
她告诉我，这有助于支付房租和家庭开支。
But Antonio and the other kids are aware that they're doing the work of the Gulf Cartel, which controls the border.
但安东尼奥和其他孩子知道他们正在为控制边境的海湾卡特尔做工作。
The Justice Department calls it one of the most violent and brutal drug-trafficking organizations in the world.
司法部称其为世界上最暴力、最残暴的贩毒组织之一。
Antonio knew who those guys were, the big bosses.
安东尼奥知道那些人是谁，大老板。
They yelled at him when he screwed up and got caught.
当他搞砸并被抓住时，他们对他大喊大叫。
Sometimes they pressured him to do more dangerous work, like take drugs across in big bags.
有时他们强迫他做更危险的工作，比如用大袋子运毒品。
They sent him text messages.
他们给他发短信。
come on, man, do another run for us.
来吧，伙计，为我们再跑一次。
Every time he says yes, Antonio gets closer to them.
每次他说“是”，安东尼奥就离他们更近了。
The border patrol are watching this play out every day.
边境巡逻队每天都在关注这一事件的发生。
The agents spend much of their days chasing around juvenile smugglers, and then just spitting them back into Mexico hours later.
特工们大部分时间都在追捕青少年走私者，然后在几个小时后将他们送回墨西哥。
Some have been caught more than 100 times, but they just keep going.
有些人已经被抓了100多次，但他们还是继续前行。
The agents even put photos of the top kids on the walls of their office.
经纪人甚至把顶尖孩子的照片贴在办公室的墙上。
I learned that from a senior border patrol agent in South Texas and his partner.
我从德克萨斯州南部的一位高级边境巡逻人员和他的搭档那里了解到这一点。
He asked that we not include his name.
他要求我们不要写上他的名字。
We have our list.
我们有我们的清单。
So we have our list of top 10 kids.
我们列出了前 10 名孩子的名单。
Wait, you have, literally, a list of 10 kids?
等等，你确实有 10 个孩子的名单吗？
Like, the 10 most wanted-- not most wanted, but 10 most productive kids?
比如，10 个最想要的孩子——不是最想要的，而是 10 个最有生产力的孩子？
Yes, sir.
是的，先生。
Kevin Sieff Why?
凯文·西夫 为什么？
What does that do for you guys?
这对你们有什么作用？
I mean, we just keep track.
我的意思是，我们只是跟踪。
Kevin Sieff Can you tell me, like, is the list on the wall of the office somewhere?
Kevin Sieff 你能告诉我，比如，这份清单在办公室墙上的某个地方吗？
Or like--
或者像——
[LAUGHTER] Border Patrol Agent (CHUCKLING) In my office, yeah.
[笑声] 边境巡逻人员（咯咯笑）在我的办公室，是的。
We were sitting in a conference room in the border patrol office, about 30 feet from the Rio Grande.
我们坐在边境巡逻办公室的会议室里，距离格兰德河约 30 英尺。
The agent was across the table from me.
代理人就在我桌子对面。
And when he talked about the teenage smugglers, it was with a kind of mix of amusement and annoyance.
当他谈到青少年走私者时，语气中夹杂着好笑和烦恼。
Like, I can't believe this is my job, chasing a bunch of kids.
就像，我不敢相信这是我的工作，追逐一群孩子。
I asked the agent if he knew the kid we were calling Antonio.
我问经纪人他是否认识我们称之为安东尼奥的那个孩子。
He just smirked.
他只是傻笑。
Like, there's one kid in particular that I've been spending time with, who I feel like you probably know.
比如，我一直和一个特别的孩子在一起，我觉得你可能认识他。
His name's [BLEEP]
他的名字是[哔]
What about him?
那他呢？
Kevin Sieff Is he on the top 10 list?
Kevin Sieff 他在前十名中吗？
I wouldn't really want to answer that, to be honest with you.
老实说，我真的不想回答这个问题。
Yeah.
是的。
Is there anything you can tell me about him?
你有什么关于他的事可以告诉我吗？
Just that he-- I mean, he's good at what he did, you know.
只是他——我的意思是，他很擅长他所做的事情，你知道。
Yeah.
是的。
Border Patrol Agent I mean, he was careful at what he was doing.
我的意思是，边境巡逻人员他做事很小心。
He knew what he was doing.
他知道自己在做什么。
He was one of those kids maybe that it's like, hey, I got you three days ago, and you will laugh it out, and it was, kind of, like that funny but annoying.
他是那些孩子之一，也许就像，嘿，三天前我得到了你，你会一笑而过，这有点有趣但很烦人。
Like, you were just like, man, you know, we got you next time, or we got you this time, kind of deal.
就像，你就像，伙计，你知道，我们下次抓住你，或者我们这次抓住你，有点交易。
To him, it, kind of, feels fruitless.
对他来说，这感觉有点徒劳。
The border patrol's mission is to stop illegal migration, and here he is in the front lines, just catching the same kids every day.
边境巡逻队的任务是阻止非法移民，而他就在前线，每天抓捕同样的孩子。
He gives them food.
他给他们食物。
Sometimes the kids lose their shoes in the mud, so he gives them these border patrol flip-flops.
有时孩子们的鞋子会掉在泥里，所以他给了他们这些边境巡逻人字拖。
Then the kids are just sent back home.
然后孩子们就被送回家了。
And it's like, OK, see you in a few days.
就像，好吧，几天后见。
I mean, you're hoping that-- kind of, like a teacher, right?
我的意思是，你希望——有点像老师，对吧？
You're, kind of, hoping that when you talk to these kids and tell them, hey, man, you know, next time, this can happen.
你有点希望当你和这些孩子交谈并告诉他们，嘿，伙计，你知道，下次，这种情况可能会发生。
You can end up drowning.
你最终可能会被淹死。
You can end up-- something bad can happen, you need to start behaving.
你最终可能会发生一些不好的事情，你需要开始表现出来。
And you're hoping that maybe it sinks to one of them.
你希望它可能会被其中一个人所接受。
The massive record of apprehensions each of these kids has, it's only relevant when they turn 18.
这些孩子中的每个人都有大量的忧虑记录，只有在他们年满 18 岁时才有意义。
If they're caught then, prosecutors can try to use that history against them.
如果他们被捕，检察官可以尝试利用这段历史来对付他们。
One agent told me his colleagues celebrated the 18th birthdays of the most prolific kids, and high-five them in the office.
一位经纪人告诉我，他的同事们为最多产的孩子们庆祝了 18 岁生日，并在办公室里与他们击掌庆祝。
Until then, there's not much that they can do.
在那之前，他们能做的并不多。
The agent, after he catches the kids, takes them to Mexican authorities, who take them to the small shelter about 400 yards from the border.
特工抓住孩子后，将他们带到墨西哥当局，后者将他们带到距离边境约 400 码的小避难所。
I was at the shelter one day, and in walked Alfonso, one of the brothers from the song, with a bunch of other smugglers who had just been apprehended and released by border patrol.
有一天，我在避难所，歌曲中的兄弟之一阿方索和一群刚刚被边境巡逻队逮捕并释放的走私者走了进来。
They were all sitting on plastic chairs in the shelter's lobby.
他们都坐在避难所大厅的塑料椅子上。
It felt like high school detention-- a group of boys, kind of, proud of themselves for getting in trouble, punching each other in the shoulders, waiting for their moms to pick them up.
这感觉就像高中拘留所——一群男孩，有点为自己遇到麻烦而感到自豪，互相殴打对方的肩膀，等待妈妈来接他们。
A woman at the shelter named Perla Sustaita processed Alfonso the same way she had many times before.
收容所里一位名叫佩拉·苏斯塔塔 (Perla Sustaita) 的妇女以她以前多次处理过的方式对待阿方索。
It was his 13th apprehension.
这是他第13次被捕。
She had the blasé expressions of a very tired assistant principal, asking questions from a script she had memorized.
她的表情就像一位非常疲倦的副校长一样，按照她记住的剧本提出问题。
She typed up the answers in the shelter system.
她在避难所系统中输入了答案。
[SPEAKING SPANISH] Kevin Sieff How did you cross the river?
[说西班牙语] Kevin Sieff 你是怎么过河的？
When did they detain you?
他们什么时候拘留你的？
Why did you cross?
你为何穿越？
She asks, while Alfonso answers flatly.
她问道，而阿方索则斩钉截铁地回答。
And then, he waited for his mom to come pick him up.
然后，他就等着妈妈来接他了。
All these kids know that they have only until their 18th birthday, and then their loophole disappears.
所有这些孩子都知道他们只有 18 岁生日，然后他们的漏洞就消失了。
So they all have to decide what they're going to do next.
所以他们都必须决定下一步要做什么。
Israel, the one with the wispy mustache, was 17 when we spoke.
当我们谈话时，留着稀疏小胡子的以色列才 17 岁。
He told me that even though he still had time left before turning 18, he was definitely done.
他告诉我，虽然距离18岁还有一段时间，但他已经完蛋了。
No. Not again.
不，不会了。
I'm fine with my girlfriend, you know what I mean?
我和我女朋友相处得很好，你明白我的意思吗？
Getting caught, and losing seven, eight years of being with my family, with my grandmother, with my dad-- my grandmother is old.
被抓了，失去了与家人、祖母、父亲相处的七、八年的时光——我的祖母已经老了。
Like, can you imagine if they locked me up, and suddenly I get a call telling me, your grandmother died?
就像，你能想象如果他们把我关起来，突然我接到电话告诉我，你的祖母去世了吗？
No. I'd rather spend my time here, calm.
不，我宁愿在这里度过时光，平静。
I prefer not to have money and be free.
我宁愿没有钱，也愿意自由。
I'm at peace now.
我现在很平静。
He hasn't crossed the border for months now.
他已经好几个月没有越过边境了。
Most kids stop when they're 17.
大多数孩子在 17 岁时就停止了。
They move on with their lives.
他们继续他们的生活。
Instead of bringing people across the border, they get jobs in the giant factories that send windshield wipers and steering wheels to the US.
他们没有把人们带过边境，而是在向美国出口挡风玻璃雨刷和方向盘的大型工厂里找到了工作。
Some try to smuggle themselves to the United States and stay there.
有些人试图偷渡到美国并留在那里。
That was Alfonso's plan, the brother from the song who I'd seen getting processed at the border.
这就是阿方索的计划，他是我在边境看到的歌曲中的兄弟。
Then, there's Antonio, the one that the border patrol told me they were tired of chasing.
然后是安东尼奥，边境巡逻队告诉我他们已经厌倦了追捕他。
As he got closer to his 18th birthday, he started posting photos of himself holding an assault rifle on Facebook.
当他临近 18 岁生日时，他开始在 Facebook 上发布自己手持突击步枪的照片。
He talked about his links to the Gulf Cartel and the methamphetamines he was taking.
他谈到了他与海湾卡特尔的联系以及他正在服用的甲基苯丙胺。
I'd been talking to him for months, sometimes in person and sometimes over the phone.
我已经和他交谈了几个月，有时是面对面，有时是通过电话。
Often, I'd call, and he'd puzzle through his next steps.
通常，我会打电话给他，而他会思考下一步该怎么做。
Maybe he'd work fixing laptops, he said.
他说，也许他会去修理笔记本电脑。
Maybe if he walked away from the cartel, his sisters would help him with some money.
也许如果他离开贩毒集团，他的姐妹们会帮他一些钱。
Oh, and did I know any American girls he could marry?
哦，我认识他可以娶的美国女孩吗？
He asked me once.
有一次他问过我。
Another day, bored at home, he changed his profession on Facebook to border patrol agent.
又有一天，他在家无聊，在脸书上把自己的职业改为边境巡逻人员。
He just seemed kind of unmoored.
他看起来有点脱离了束缚。
Then, one day, not too long ago, I called to see how he was doing.
然后，不久前的一天，我打电话去看看他怎么样了。
Kevin Sieff That sound in the background there, he told me that was a pistol.
凯文·西夫 那个背景声音，他告诉我那是一把手枪。
Soy cargando la pistola.
大豆卡甘多拉皮斯托拉。
Kevin Sieff Las pistolas?
凯文·西夫 拉斯手枪？
Si, hoy.
嘿，嘿。
Kevin Sieff Y qué vas a hacer con las pistolas?
凯文·西夫 (Kevin Sieff) 你有什么手枪？
No. He told me he was going to kill someone, and that he was getting paid to do it.
不。他告诉我他要杀人，而且他这样做是有报酬的。
A truck arrived to pick him up, and the call ended abruptly.
一辆卡车来接他，电话突然挂断。
I didn't know where he was, or where he was going, or any details of his plan.
我不知道他在哪里，也不知道他要去哪里，也不知道他计划的任何细节。
I called Antonio the next day to see what happened.
第二天我打电话给安东尼奥，看看发生了什么事。
He told me he'd gone on the hit and fired his gun, but missed.
他告诉我他曾发起攻击并开枪，但没有击中。
His friend was shot, but survived, and they ran off.
他的朋友被枪杀，但幸存下来，他们逃跑了。
Then, a few days later, Antonio was taken by armed men from his mother's house in the middle of the night.
几天后，安东尼奥在半夜被武装人员从他母亲的家里带走。
He was handcuffed and beaten for three days.
他被戴上手铐并殴打了三天。
I went to visit him at his house, a one-bedroom apartment about a mile from the border, not far from the industrial corridor that has sprouted up since NAFTA.
我去他家拜访了他，这是一套单卧室公寓，距离边境约一英里，距离自北美自由贸易协定以来兴起的工业走廊不远。
He sleeps on a mattress in the kitchen, under a poster of The Last Supper.
他睡在厨房的床垫上，上面贴着《最后的晚餐》的海报。
There were still scars around his wrists from where he'd been handcuffed.
他的手腕上还留有被戴手铐时留下的伤痕。
No one could explain why he'd been targeted.
没有人能解释为什么他会成为攻击目标。
Antonio told me it was because he was high on pills, and the cartel doesn't allow that.
安东尼奥告诉我，这是因为他服药过量，而贩毒集团不允许这样做。
But it seemed likely to me that it had something to do with his shift from teenage smuggler to hit man, and the botched mission.
但在我看来，这可能与他从青少年走私犯转变为杀手以及这次失败的任务有关。
He's still getting messages beckoning him back to smuggling.
他仍然收到邀请他重新走私的消息。
The other day, he got one.
有一天，他得到了一个。
Do you want to cross another group?
你想跨过另一组吗？
He turns 18 in February.
2 月份他就满 18 岁了。
These days, he catches himself looking at his snapshots, like an old man looking through photos of vacations he took when he was young.
这些天，他发现自己在看自己的快照，就像一个老人在翻看他年轻时度假的照片一样。
I asked him why they were so important to him.
我问他为什么它们对他如此重要。
Just to remember what I did, he said.
“只是为了记住我做了什么，”他说。
To remember what I did in life.
记住我一生中所做的事情。
Kevin Sieff.
凯文·西夫。
He's a reporter for The Washington Post.
他是《华盛顿邮报》的记者。
He also did a print version of this story, with pictures and videos, and they're great.
他还制作了这个故事的印刷版，附有图片和视频，非常棒。
And you can find it online.
你可以在网上找到它。
If you want to hear more of Kevin's stories, he's often on Post Reports, The Washington Post's daily news podcast.
如果您想了解更多凯文的故事，他经常出现在华盛顿邮报的每日新闻播客“Post Reports”上。
You can find it at postreports.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
您可以在 postreports.com 或任何可以获得播客的地方找到它。
Act 2, The Last Ride.
第二幕，最后一程。
So reading up this week about the best-known ferrymen in the world, the one from Greek mythology, Charon, what's striking about him is, it's really hard to find many details about what that trip across the river was like, with Charon guiding the boat to the Underworld.
因此，本周阅读有关世界上最著名的摆渡人的信息，即希腊神话中的卡戎（Charon），他的惊人之处在于，很难找到有关卡戎引导船前往冥界的渡河之旅的详细信息。
Like, what happens in that boat?
就像，那艘船上发生了什么？
Conversations, fistfights, acting out, sullen moping?
谈话、打架、发脾气、闷闷不乐？
Like, what happens?
就像，会发生什么？
And what's it like for Charon, making that same trip over and over for all eternity, transporting everyone who has ever lived?
对于卡戎来说，永远一遍又一遍地进行同样的旅行，运送所有曾经活过的人，是什么样的感觉？
Well, the writer Marie Phillips was kind enough to sketch it out for us.
好吧，作家玛丽·菲利普斯（Marie Phillips）很友善地为我们勾勒出它的轮廓。
Her story is read by actor Noma Dumezweni.
她的故事由演员诺玛·杜梅兹维尼 (Noma Dumezweni) 朗读。
Deep in the belly of the Underworld, the River Styx oozed like a deadly snake, black water glistening like scales.
冥界深处，冥河如一条致命的蛇般渗出，黑色的河水如鳞片般闪闪发光。
All around was darkness, heavy and sulphurous.
周围一片漆黑，沉重而硫磺。
The gloom echoed with the wailing of doomed souls, those unable to pay the single coin demanded by Charon, the ferryman, who'd pluck it from his passengers' mouths with a thick, crooked finger.
黑暗中回响着注定失败的灵魂的哀嚎，他们无力支付摆渡人卡戎所要求的一枚硬币，而卡戎会用一根又粗又弯曲的手指从乘客的嘴里把硬币扯下来。
Charon's oar propelled the boat through the water, lapping and lapping like a-- like a cat, drinking milk, thought Mrs. Ruth Langley of Basingstoke, Great Britain, recently deceased at 83 from a stroke suffered while dusting her husband's collection of miniature model warplanes.
英国贝辛斯托克的露丝·兰利夫人最近去世，享年 83 岁，她在为丈夫收藏的微型战机模型除尘时中风，她最近去世，享年 83 岁。
Mrs. Langley had never had a cat, let alone listened to one drink.
兰利夫人从来没有养过猫，更不用说听过喝水了。
Her husband had allergies.
她的丈夫有过敏症。
Mrs. Langley believed in being prompt.
兰利夫人相信要及时。
She'd been the first on the boat, taking her seat at the very front, next to the mysterious oarsman, a hulking giant with a furrowed brow, his hooded eyes fixed on the horizon.
她是第一个上船的，坐在最前面，旁边是神秘的桨手，一个身材魁梧的巨人，眉头紧锁，眼睛盯着地平线。
He seemed, she thought, a little ill at ease.
她想，他似乎有点不自在。
"This is nice, isn't it?" She said.
“这很好，不是吗？”她说。
"I always wanted to go on a cruise." Charon said nothing.
“我一直想去游轮旅行。”卡戎什么也没说。
"The Mediterranean or the Greek Islands.
“地中海或希腊群岛。
You must know all about them, of course.
当然，您必须了解它们的一切。
Are they wonderful?" Charon said nothing.
他们很棒吗？”卡戎什么也没说。
"I always pictured myself sunbathing on deck while a handsome waiter brought me glasses of amaretto.
“我总是想象自己在甲板上晒日光浴，而一位英俊的服务员给我端来了一杯苦杏酒。
I wonder what amaretto tastes like.
我想知道苦杏酒的味道如何。
Have you ever had it?
你有过吗？
It sounds so romantic, amaretto.
听起来很浪漫，阿玛雷托。
I suppose there'll be plenty of opportunity to try new drinks once we get there." Charon said nothing.
我想一旦我们到达那里就会有很多机会尝试新饮料。”卡戎什么也没说。
"Well, anyway, my husband hates boats.
“好吧，无论如何，我丈夫讨厌船。
Oh, I don't mean to offend.
哦，我无意冒犯。
I'm sure when his time comes, he'll think this one is lovely." She glanced behind her to the cowering mortals weeping and screaming and clutching at one another in despair, then turned back to her host.
我相信当他的时机成熟时，他会认为这个很可爱。”她瞥了一眼身后那些畏缩的凡人，他们哭泣、尖叫、绝望地互相拥抱，然后转身面向她的主人。
"It's really motion sickness that's his problem.
“他的问题确实是晕车。
And this is a very smooth ride.
这是一次非常顺利的旅程。
You have a wonderful technique.
你的技术很棒。
You should be very proud." Charon said nothing.
你应该感到非常自豪。”卡戎什么也没说。
"Is it exciting, meeting all the famous people?
“见到所有名人是不是很兴奋？
It must be.
一定是的。
Did you speak to Princess Diana?
你和戴安娜王妃谈过吗？
What was she like?
她是什么样的人？
I've always thought she seemed so compassionate, like Mother Teresa, but chic." Charon said nothing.
我一直认为她看起来很有同情心，就像特蕾莎修女一样，但又很别致。”卡戎什么也没说。
"You know what I think is a really nice touch?
“你知道我认为什么是真正好的接触吗？
No first class.
没有头等舱。
We're all literally in the same boat.
我们实际上都在同一条船上。
You never know who you might end up sitting next to, though it looks like nobody famous died today.
你永远不知道你最终会坐在谁旁边，尽管看起来今天没有名人去世。
Oh, well.
哦，好吧。
Oh, but I'm very happy up here with you, no complaints." Charon said nothing.
哦，但我很高兴和你在一起，没有什么可抱怨的。”卡戎什么也没说。
Mrs. Langley gazed out into the murk.
兰利夫人凝视着外面的黑暗。
Her hands twitched in her lap, where her handbag ought to be.
她的双手在腿上抽搐，而她的手提包应该放在腿上。
"I don't suppose," she said, "you remember a man called John Farmer?
“我想，”她说，“你记得一个叫约翰·法默的人吗？
About mid-height, sandy hair, died in 1994 after a bus hit him?
中等身高，沙色头发，1994 年在公共汽车撞倒后死亡？
It made the local paper.
它制作了当地的报纸。
He used to take me to dances when I was a girl.
当我还是个女孩的时候，他经常带我去跳舞。
He made me laugh, held my hand.
他让我笑，握着我的手。
He wanted to marry me, but I thought there was more out there.
他想娶我，但我认为还有更多。
I always wondered, what if?
我一直在想，如果呢？
So I thought maybe if you drop me off where he is-- oh, of course, he moved on.
所以我想也许如果你让我离开他所在的地方——哦，当然，他继续前进。
But his wife, Linda, is still alive.
但他的妻子琳达还活着。
She remarried a software engineer from Penzance.
她与彭赞斯的一位软件工程师再婚。
Younger man.
更年轻的男人。
And then, there's my husband, not here yet, but soon enough.
然后，我的丈夫来了，虽然还没来，但很快就到了。
Probably enjoying the silence up there, haha.
大概是很享受这里的安静吧，哈哈。
Always did say I talk too much.
总是说我话太多。
But he loves me.
但他爱我。
I suppose that will all be quite complicated here.
我想这一切都会非常复杂。
Love." Charon said nothing.
爱。”卡戎什么也没说。
"John probably wouldn't look at me twice now anyway.
“无论如何，约翰现在可能不会再看我两次了。
I'm an old lady." Charon said nothing.
我是个老太太了。”卡戎什么也没说。
Mrs. Langley looked up at the ferryman.
兰利夫人抬头看着摆渡人。
There was something so dignified in the way that he stood there, rowing implacably onwards.
他站在那里，不屈不挠地向前划船，他的态度是如此庄严。
"You're a really good listener," she said.
“你真是一个很好的倾听者，”她说。
Charon turned towards her.
卡戎转向她。
The woman talked.
女人说话了。
They always did.
他们总是这样做。
Every trip without fail.
每一次旅行都没有失败。
One of immortals would detach itself from the group, attach itself to him, and start chattering.
一位神仙会脱离这群人，依附在他身上，并开始喋喋不休。
It never changed.
它从未改变。
Sure, they were different mortals, but how different were they, really?
当然，他们是不同的凡人，但他们到底有多大不同呢？
It was like a swarm of rats.
就像一群老鼠一样。
You could probably tell them apart if you look closely, but who'd want to do that?
如果你仔细观察，你可能可以区分它们，但谁愿意这样做呢？
The woman talked.
女人说话了。
Most of the time, they were begging and pleading.
大多数时候，他们都是在乞求、恳求。
They were so desperate to be returned to that thing they called life.
他们非常渴望回到他们所谓的生活中。
They hadn't caught on yet, that life, or existence at least, was the one thing that they had in abundance.
他们还没有意识到，生命，或者至少是存在，是他们所拥有的唯一丰富的东西。
For all eternity, in fact.
事实上，永远。
Charon had some things to say on the subject of eternal life, should he ever feel inclined to speak.
卡戎有一些关于永生的话题要说，如果他愿意的话。
Notably, that it went on for a very long time.
值得注意的是，这种情况持续了很长时间。
But Charon did not feel inclined to speak.
但卡戎并不想说话。
Who would he speak to?
他会跟谁说话？
The rats?
老鼠？
The woman talked.
女人说话了。
Love was the other thing they never shut up about.
爱情是他们从未闭嘴的另一件事。
Each of them thinks that their own love is so special, so unique, that their love never dies.
他们每个人都认为自己的爱是如此特别、如此独特，以至于他们的爱永远不会消失。
They're about to get a lesson in undying love, all right.
他们即将学到永恒的爱的教训，好吧。
There was a reason the gods specialized in transient passions that burned hot and fast, and usually ended up with the other person turned into an animal.
众神专门热衷于短暂的激情，这种激情燃烧得又热又快，通常会导致对方变成动物，这是有原因的。
But maybe it wouldn't be so bad, a companion.
但也许，有一个同伴也没有那么糟糕。
A still, silent presence in this maelstrom of mortal jibber jabber, someone to share the long nights, the glide of the boat through the water, the velvet embrace of the darkness, the sweet music of abandoned souls sobbing in misery.
在这个凡人胡言乱语的漩涡中，他是一个静止、沉默的存在，有人分享漫长的夜晚，船在水中的滑行，黑暗的天鹅绒般的拥抱，被遗弃的灵魂在痛苦中哭泣的甜美音乐。
A few words floated out from the talking woman.
说话的女人嘴里飘出了几句话。
"He made me laugh, held my hand." Charon's hand was so callous from manning the oar that it resembled stone.
“他让我笑，握着我的手。”卡戎的手因划桨而变得冷酷无情，就像石头一样。
Someone to hold his hand.
有人牵着他的手。
Yes.
是的。
He could see the value in that.
他可以看到其中的价值。
"You're a really good listener," she said.
“你真是一个很好的倾听者，”她说。
He looked down at her, small, frail.
他低头看着她，身材娇小，柔弱。
Her hair puffed up in a piteous attempt at prettiness.
她的头发蓬松起来，可怜兮兮地试图打扮得漂亮。
Wide eyes searching his, lips softly parted.
睁大的眼睛审视着他，嘴唇轻轻张开。
He gently took her chin, then shoved his finger into her mouth and felt around.
他轻轻握住她的下巴，然后将手指伸进她的嘴里，四处摸索。
No coin.
没有硬币。
He tossed her into the water.
他把她扔进水里。
Never any coins these days.
这些天从来没有硬币。
Still, he had to check.
尽管如此，他还是得检查一下。
He reached out his hand and beckoned the next mortal towards him.
他伸出手，示意下一个凡人朝他走来。
Actor Noma Dumezweni, reading a story by Marie Phillips, who has, by the way, a whole novel about the Greek gods, living in contemporary London, behaving badly, called Gods Behaving Badly.
演员诺玛·杜梅兹韦尼 (Noma Dumezweni) 正在读玛丽·菲利普斯 (Marie Phillips) 的故事，顺便说一句，玛丽·菲利普斯 (Marie Phillips) 写了一本关于希腊众神的小说，故事的主题是生活在当代伦敦的希腊诸神，行为恶劣，名为《诸神行为恶劣》(Gods Behaving Badly)。
Her latest book is Create Your Own Midlife Crisis.
她的最新著作是《创造你自己的中年危机》。
Coming up, somebody whose job it is to get living people from one place to another, past a massive barrier put in place by a dead man to stop them.
即将出现的人的工作是将活人从一个地方带到另一个地方，穿过死者为阻止他们设置的巨大障碍。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues.
芝加哥公共广播电台一分钟后我们的节目仍在继续。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today's show, "The Ferryman," stories about people whose job it is to transport us from point A to point B and what that's like for them, what happens along the way.
今天的节目《摆渡人》讲述了人们的故事，他们的工作是将我们从 A 点运送到 B 点，以及他们的感受以及沿途发生的事情。
We've arrived at Act 3 of our program.
我们已经到了计划的第三幕。
Act 3, Better Call Dave.
第三幕，最好打电话给戴夫。
So this next story, the point A and point B that the person has to travel between are not far apart at all.
因此，在下一个故事中，该人必须往返的 A 点和 B 点相距并不远。
And yet, it's a really hard job.
然而，这确实是一项艰巨的工作。
It requires a lot of special knowledge and specialized skills, particularly this one time when he was hired to take the living across to get to the treasures of the dead.
这需要大量的特殊知识和专业技能，尤其是这一次，他受雇带着生者穿越死者的宝藏。
David Kestenbaum explains.
大卫·凯斯滕鲍姆解释道。
I met Dave McOmie because I had a bank vault I needed opened, just for fun.
我遇到戴夫·麦奥米是因为我需要打开一个银行金库，只是为了好玩。
My friend worked in a building that had once been a bank, and it happened to have this abandoned vault in the basement.
我的朋友在一栋曾经是银行的大楼里工作，而地下室恰好有这个废弃的金库。
It was locked, and we wanted to see what was in it.
它被锁住了，我们想看看里面有什么。
We still haven't gotten to that.
我们还没有做到这一点。
But in our search for someone to open it for us, I met Dave, who had this one, kind of, amazing story I wanted you to hear.
但在我们寻找能为我们打开它的人时，我遇到了戴夫，他有一个我想让你听的令人惊奇的故事。
Dave is a safecracker, one of the best.
戴夫是一名保险箱窃贼，是最好的窃贼之一。
He keeps his tools-- where else?
他把他的工具藏在哪里？
A safe.
一个保险箱。
How long would it take you to break into your own safe?
你需要多长时间才能闯入自己的保险箱？
Well, the problem with that is that my tools I would need to break into the safe are in the safe.
好吧，问题是我需要闯入保险箱的工具就在保险箱里。
So that's a bit of a conundrum, I guess.
所以我想这有点难题。
Dave told me he got interested in opening things that were not supposed to be opened when he was 15.
戴夫告诉我，他 15 岁时就对打开不该打开的东西产生了兴趣。
A neighbor had lost her car keys, or had her purse stolen with the keys in them, so she'd called the locksmith.
一位邻居丢失了她的车钥匙，或者她的钱包被偷了，里面有钥匙，所以她给锁匠打电话。
The guy came over.
那家伙过来了。
Dave watched him work and was like, that's a job?
戴夫看着他工作，心想，这就是工作吗？
He was fascinated, ended up as a kind of apprentice in the man's shop.
他被迷住了，最终在这个人的店里当了学徒。
In Dave's telling, he was, kind of, a gentleman safecracker.
用戴夫的话说，他是一位绅士的保险箱窃贼。
Dave always called him, Mr. Corey.
戴夫总是称呼他为科里先生。
He did locks, safes, vaults.
他做锁、保险箱、金库。
Dave says he was not a natural at it at all.
戴夫说他根本不擅长这个。
He still, kind of, feels that way.
他仍然有这样的感觉。
Well, the truth is, I'm still not very mechanical.
好吧，事实是，我仍然不是很机械。
I take much longer to figure things out than most of my friends do.
我比我的大多数朋友花更多的时间来解决问题。
So what do you think makes you good at it?
那么你认为是什么让你擅长呢？
Dave learned how to open safes just by feel and listening.
戴夫学会了如何通过感觉和聆听来打开保险箱。
Yeah, that's really a thing.
是的，这确实是一件事。
Turning the dial slowly, click by click.
慢慢地转动转盘，一点一点地转动。
Sometimes you get into a trance, and you wake up hours later when the safe opens, and you realize, oh my god, three hours passed.
有时你会陷入恍惚状态，几个小时后当保险箱打开时你就会醒来，然后你意识到，天哪，三个小时过去了。
It felt like 10 minutes.
感觉好像是10分钟。
Finally, it pops.
最后，它弹出了。
And it's a great feeling.
这是一种很棒的感觉。
Is that the thing you love about the job?
这是你热爱这份工作的地方吗？
Just that it is so satisfying when the thing actually opens for you?
只是当事情真正向你开放时，你会感到如此满足吗？
Yes.
是的。
There's nothing like it, really.
真的没有什么比这更好的了。
The closest thing would be sex.
最接近的就是性。
I know, but it's true.
我知道，但这是真的。
Opening safes involves--
打开保险箱涉及——
I feel like you're doing damage to both safe cracking and sex with that comparison.
我觉得你这样的比较对安全破解和性都造成了损害。
That's Dave.
那是戴夫。
Dave lives outside Portland, Oregon with his wife and kids, edits a magazine called International Safecracker, teaches safecracking classes.
戴夫 (Dave) 与妻子和孩子住在俄勒冈州波特兰郊外，编辑一本名为《国际保险箱破解者》的杂志，教授保险箱破解课程。
When other safecrackers need help, he's one of the people they ask.
当其他窃贼需要帮助时，他就是他们寻求帮助的人之一。
Dave's hard of hearing, so he likes to text.
戴夫有听力障碍，所以他喜欢发短信。
And his phone is filled with requests from people looking to hire him, to break into a bank vault or safe that won't open.
他的手机里充满了那些想要雇用他、闯入打不开的银行金库或保险箱的人的请求。
Dave has lots of stories.
戴夫有很多故事。
There's the time he had to open a Bank of America vault, so that the guy who's going to get married the next day could retrieve the wedding rings, or the time a teller locked herself in a vault.
有一次，他必须打开美国银行的金库，以便第二天要结婚的人可以取回结婚戒指，或者有一次，一名出纳员将自己锁在金库里。
There are locked safes that people have bought at auction that he's opened-- mostly empty, though one was filled with jewels.
他打开了人们在拍卖会上购买的上锁的保险箱——大部分都是空的，但其中一个装满了珠宝。
He told me a friend once opened a gun safe and found a body inside.
他告诉我，有一次，一个朋友打开了一个枪支保险箱，发现里面有一具尸体。
In this job I'm going to tell you about, it wasn't clear what it was at the start.
在我要告诉你的这份工作中，一开始并不清楚它是什么。
Well, the first email was pretty cryptic.
嗯，第一封电子邮件非常神秘。
I didn't know what they were talking about, and I ignored him.
我不知道他们在说什么，也就没有理他。
I didn't even respond.
我什至没有回应。
And--
还有——
I don't remember.
我不记得了。
I get a lot of emails from cranky people wanting information on a safe or a vault.
我收到很多脾气暴躁的人发来的电子邮件，想要了解有关保险箱或金库的信息。
Well, this one was so cryptic, it didn't even warrant a response, I thought.
嗯，这个问题太神秘了，我想，根本不需要回应。
He gets a follow-up email, saying, please respond.
他收到一封后续电子邮件，内容是“请回复”。
Then, I get emails from two different companies in the safe and vault business in the Midwest, asking me to please respond to them.
然后，我收到来自中西部保险箱和保险库业务的两家不同公司的电子邮件，要求我回复它们。
Well, at that point, I'm like, what the hell?
好吧，在那一点上，我想，到底是什么？
What's going on here?
这是怎么回事？
One of my colleagues said, Dave, think famous person, sudden death, Minneapolis area.
我的一位同事说，戴夫，想想名人，突然死亡，明尼阿波利斯地区。
It was Prince's vault.
那是王子的金库。
Yes, Prince, the musician.
是的，王子，音乐家。
He died, and apparently, no one had the combination.
他死了，显然没有人知道这个密码。
Did they tell you what kind of safe it was?
他们有告诉你那是什么类型的保险箱吗？
I already knew.
我已经知道了。
David Kestenbaum How did you know what kind of vault Prince had?
David Kestenbaum 你怎么知道Prince 有什么样的金库？
I keep track of these things.
我跟踪这些事情。
Just my job, really.
这只是我的工作，真的。
One of his friends had put a photograph of it on the internet a decade earlier.
十年前，他的一个朋友在互联网上放了一张它的照片。
And I was impressed.
我印象深刻。
It's not very often you see a full-blown bank vault in a residence.
在住宅中很少能看到设施齐全的银行金库。
Prince's vault was a Mosler American Century.
普林斯的金库是莫斯勒美国世纪。
Dave says Mosler had been the top manufacturer of safes in the United States for 100 years.
Dave 表示，100 年来，Mosler 一直是美国顶级保险箱制造商。
This was one of the last ones they made.
这是他们最后制作的作品之一。
The vault door he was going to have to open was a formidable thing.
他要打开的金库门是一件令人畏惧的事情。
It's 6 and 1/2 feet tall, 3 and 1/2 feet or 4 feet wide, depending on which version.
它的高度为 6又 1/2 英尺，宽为 3又 1/2 英尺或 4 英尺，具体取决于版本。
Weighs in at about 6,000 pounds.
重量约为 6,000 磅。
You write that it was designed to withstand drills and torches, to repel sophisticated attempts at entry, and brutish forms of attack as well.
你写道，它的设计目的是能够承受钻头和火把，抵御复杂的入侵尝试，以及野蛮的攻击。
That's right.
这是正确的。
No burglar has ever defeated a Mosler American Century, not once, ever.
从来没有窃贼击败过莫斯勒美国世纪，一次也没有。
The best safes and vaults have gotten harder to open over the years.
多年来，最好的保险箱和金库变得越来越难打开。
When people got good at opening by listening and feeling for little clicks as you turn the dial, manufacturers fixed it so you couldn't do that anymore.
当人们擅长通过聆听和感觉转动旋钮时的轻微咔嗒声来打开时，制造商修复了它，这样你就不能再这样做了。
When people drilled through the doors, safe and vault makers put in hard plates, a layer in the door that's very hard to drill through.
当人们钻进门时，保险箱和金库制造商会放入硬板，这是门上很难钻穿的一层。
One inventive iteration of this?
这是一个创造性的迭代吗？
A layer of, basically, ball bearings.
基本上是一层滚珠轴承。
When the drill hits them, they spin, grab the drill bit, and can break it.
当钻头击中它们时，它们会旋转，抓住钻头，并将其折断。
This vault, Prince's vault, the Mosler American Century, has an additional layer of protection, even more devious, called--
这个金库，普林斯的金库，莫斯勒美国世纪，有一层额外的保护，甚至更隐蔽，叫做——
The mousetrap relocker.
捕鼠器重新上锁。
David Kestenbaum The mousetrap relocker.
David Kestenbaum 捕鼠器重新上锁者。
It's an ingenious way to defeat the burglars.
这是击败窃贼的巧妙方法。
Basically, if the vault senses it's being tampered with, a spring-loaded mechanism fires like a mousetrap, snapping this metal block into place, that physically makes it so the door can't open, even if you have the combination.
基本上，如果金库感觉到它被篡改，一个弹簧加载装置就会像捕鼠器一样启动，将这个金属块卡入到位，从而在物理上使其门无法打开，即使你有密码。
And when it fires, it goes, bang!
当它着火时，就会发出“砰”的一声！
It shoots over, and you cannot turn the handle.
它会射倒，你无法转动手柄。
And I was really nervous about the mousetrap relocker in this particular door.
我对这扇门上的捕鼠器重新上锁装置感到非常紧张。
If you're a Prince fan, you maybe know the story of this vault and how it all turned out.
如果您是《王子》的粉丝，您可能知道这个金库的故事以及这一切的结果。
But Dave back then, of course, had no idea how it would go.
但当时戴夫当然不知道事情会如何发展。
The night before, he was anxious.
前一天晚上，他很着急。
He reviewed his plans, made sure he had all his tools together.
他审查了他的计划，确保他拥有所有工具。
On Sunday morning, he flew down to Minneapolis, his gear in a couple of suitcases.
周日早上，他飞抵明尼阿波利斯，他的装备装在几个手提箱里。
There's something intimate opening the safe of someone who has died, an intrusion into the sacred, like you're entering a place you're not supposed to be.
有某种亲密的东西打开了死者的保险箱，侵入了神圣的地方，就像你进入了一个你不应该去的地方。
In addition to valuables, money, jewelry, once a million baseball card, people keep secrets in safes-- photos of people they aren't married to, letters.
除了贵重物品、金钱、珠宝、曾经价值一百万的棒球卡之外，人们还在保险箱中保存秘密——非结婚对象的照片、信件。
Dave got picked up at the airport and taken to Paisley Park, Prince's home, an estate, really.
戴夫在机场接机并被带到佩斯利公园，普林斯的家，实际上是一个庄园。
There were scores of balloons and notes attached to the fence around the property, a wall of purple.
房子周围的栅栏是一堵紫色的墙，上面贴着几十个气球和便条。
The guard waved them through the gate.
门卫挥手示意他们进门。
They parked, and entered this big magnificent building with a huge atrium, large pictures of Prince on the wall, two purple couches, sunlight coming down from above.
他们停好车，进入这座宏伟的建筑，里面有一个巨大的中庭，墙上挂着王子的大幅照片，两张紫色的沙发，阳光从上面照射下来。
The vault was on the floor below.
金库位于下面的地板上。
Well, we couldn't take the elevator, because it was still walled off, because that's where they had found him.
好吧，我们不能乘坐电梯，因为电梯仍然被围起来，因为那是他们找到他的地方。
So we had to take the stairs down to the lower level.
所以我们不得不走楼梯到下层。
And the archivist from New York who was there-- just a sweet man-- he led the way down the stairs.
现场的一位来自纽约的档案管理员——一个和蔼可亲的人——带路下了楼梯。
Dave says, even after years of doing this, his hands shake sometimes with nerves.
戴夫说，即使做了多年，他的手有时也会因为紧张而颤抖。
He prefers it when he's alone with the vault.
他更喜欢独自一人在金库里。
But when he goes into the room, there are over a dozen people there.
但当他走进房间时，却发现里面有十几个人。
And weirdly, someone has covered everything in plastic-- the art on the walls, all the stuff in the room-- in case, you know, he has to use explosives, which Dave politely explains is not how he works.
奇怪的是，有人用塑料覆盖了所有东西——墙上的艺术品，房间里的所有东西——以防万一，你知道，他必须使用炸药，戴夫礼貌地解释说这不是他的工作方式。
Dave starts to examine the vault, very aware of all the eyes on him.
戴夫开始检查金库，他非常清楚所有的目光都集中在他身上。
The door looks like something out of James Bond-- shiny, stainless steel, with black dials.
这扇门看起来就像詹姆斯·邦德的作品——闪亮的不锈钢材质，带有黑色表盘。
He gives them a spin and notes that they are what in the business are called manipulation-resistant, meaning you can't figure out the combo by feeling how the dial turns.
他旋转了一下它们，并指出它们是业内所谓的抗操纵性，这意味着你无法通过感觉表盘的转动来找出组合。
The next thing he does is try some default combinations.
他接下来要做的就是尝试一些默认组合。
Sometimes if a safe has been opened for maintenance, they'll reset it to something simple.
有时，如果保险箱被打开进行维护，他们会将其重置为简单的内容。
And sometimes, the owner doesn't bother to change it.
有时，主人也懒得去改变它。
Worth trying.
值得尝试。
I tried 50-25-50.
我试过50-25-50。
It didn't work.
它不起作用。
I tried 25-50-25.
我试过25-50-25。
It didn't work, et cetera, et cetera.
它不起作用，等等，等等。
A kind of amazing aside here-- Dave says banks often have several of their combo numbers on their vaults set to end in 5 or 0, just because they're easier to dial.
令人惊奇的是，戴夫说，银行的金库中经常有几个以 5 或 0 结尾的组合号码，只是因为它们更容易拨打。
That's why the big hash marks are on the dials.
这就是表盘上有大哈希标记的原因。
But if you're thinking of trying to break into a bank vault, you should know a few things, he says.
但如果你想尝试闯入银行金库，你应该了解一些事情，他说。
One, there are still tons of possible combinations.
第一，仍然有大量可能的组合。
Two, bank vaults have a time lock, so they can't be opened after hours.
第二，银行金库有时间锁，所以下班后就不能打开。
Three, even if you did get in, you'd find the money isn't out in the open.
第三，即使你真的进去了，你也会发现钱并没有公开。
It's inside another safe inside the vault.
它位于金库内的另一个保险箱内。
By that time, the police would be there.
到时候，警察就已经到了。
Don't try it, he says.
他说，不要尝试。
Anyway, back to Paisley Park and Prince's vault.
不管怎样，回到佩斯利公园和王子金库。
Dave turns to the thing he's known he was probably going to have to do from the start-- a technique called microdrilling.
戴夫转向他从一开始就知道他可能必须做的事情——一种称为微钻孔的技术。
He's going to try to drill a small hole through this giant, thick door in just the right spot, so he can look in through that hole and see the combination lock from the inside.
他将尝试在这扇又大又厚的门上的正确位置钻一个小孔，这样他就可以从那个孔往里看，从里面看到密码锁。
If he can see the lock tumblers from the inside, he should be able to figure out what combination the vault is set to, and open the door.
如果他能从里面看到锁栓，他应该能够弄清楚金库设置的密码，并打开门。
How do you look in such a small hole?
这么小的洞里你看起来怎么样？
A doctor's endoscope, the thing used for colonoscopies and other procedures.
医生的内窥镜，用于结肠镜检查和其他手术的东西。
Think very small periscope.
想想非常小的潜望镜。
Dave always has one with him.
戴夫总是随身带着一个。
But for this to work, he has to drill in just the right place.
但要做到这一点，他必须在正确的地方钻孔。
Only a small number of people know the spot.
只有少数人知道这个地方。
And Dave is one of the people who has worked out the best way to do this for lots of vaults.
戴夫（Dave）是为许多金库找到最佳方法的人之一。
He has the coordinates for drill spots for scores of safes and vaults on a laptop.
他在笔记本电脑上有数十个保险箱和金库的钻探点坐标。
And how big is this spot?
这个地方有多大？
Dave McOmie Oh, it's literally about the size of a frozen pea.
Dave McOmie 哦，它的大小与冷冻豌豆差不多。
It's tiny.
它很小。
And it's a long ways from you.
而且离你还很远。
It's deep in the door.
就在门的深处。
There's always a certain amount of trepidation, because if your drill bit veers off at all in any direction other than exactly where you need it to go, you miss.
总会有一定程度的恐惧，因为如果你的钻头偏离了你需要的方向，那么你就会错过。
And if you miss, the manufacturer has put the mousetrap relocker right there at this magic spot.
如果您错过了，制造商已将捕鼠器重新锁定器放在这个神奇的地方。
If it heats up from too much drilling, it'll blow.
如果它因钻孔过多而变热，它就会爆炸。
Dave measures out the right spot on the front of the vault door, puts a dot there with a black Sharpie, checks the position three times, and starts to drill.
戴夫测量了金库门前部的正确位置，用黑色记号笔在此处点了一个点，检查了位置三遍，然后开始钻孔。
The drill goes through the outer steel layer, then into some very hard concrete.
钻头穿过外钢层，然后进入一些非常坚硬的混凝土。
And then--
然后——
We're drilling away, and then all of a sudden, the sound of the drill motor increases.
我们正在钻孔，突然，钻孔电机的声音增大。
Zzzzzzzzzz!
兹兹兹兹兹！
It's not cutting.
这不是切割。
Dave looks through the hole and can see why.
戴夫从洞里往外看，就明白了原因。
They've hit the hard plate.
他们已经遇到了困难。
Vaultmakers give their hard plates all kinds of names.
Vaultmakers 给他们的硬板起了各种各样的名字。
There's one called Impervium.
有一种叫做 Impervium。
The one on Prince's vault, it's the first time he's seen it on this vault.
普林斯金库上的那个，在这个金库上他还是第一次见到。
It's called Relsom, which is the vault company's name, Mosler, spelled backwards.
它叫做 Relsom，是跳马公司名称 Mosler 倒过来拼写的。
He wonders if Prince asked for an upgrade.
他想知道普林斯是否要求升级。
Dave reaches into his bag and takes out another drill bit, this one with a diamond tip.
戴夫把手伸进包里，拿出另一个钻头，这个钻头带有金刚石钻头。
He lowers the drill speed.
他降低了钻速。
He has to go slow.
他必须慢慢来。
If he doesn't, the metal in the door will heat up, and the relocker will fire.
如果他不这样做，门上的金属就会变热，重新上锁器就会起火。
10 minutes pass, 20, 30, an hour.
10分钟过去了，20、30、一个小时过去了。
He's made less than half an inch of progress.
他只进步了不到半英寸。
Everyone's standing around watching, Dave nervous.
每个人都站在周围观看，戴夫很紧张。
And then, the drill sound changes.
然后，钻头的声音发生了变化。
He's through.
他完了。
His only question-- did the relocker fire while he was drilling, or did he slip past it?
他唯一的问题是——在他钻孔时，重新锁锁器是否开火了，还是他溜走了？
Once the hole was in, I grabbed an endoscope, and you're sweating bullets at that point.
洞一开，我就抓起内窥镜，那时你已经汗流浃背了。
Dave threads it through this tiny, long hole in the big door.
戴夫将它穿过大门上这个又小又长的洞。
I could see that we'd just skimmed over the top of it, and didn't even graze it, but we were very close to it.
我可以看到我们只是掠过它的顶部，甚至没有擦过它，但我们已经非常接近它了。
The scope goes on inside the lock, where the tumblers are.
瞄准镜在锁内，即弹子所在的地方进行。
I could see the-- each of the four little tumblers, they looked like little grindstones, turning this way and that.
我可以看到——四个小玻璃杯中的每一个，它们看起来都像小磨石，左右转动。
It was a beautiful sight to see.
这是一个美丽的景象。
Dave turns the combo dials on the front of the safe until he can see everything is aligned on the inside.
戴夫转动保险箱前面的组合旋钮，直到看到里面的所有东西都对齐。
That should do it.
应该可以做到这一点。
It occurs to him that Prince might have been the last person to open the vault.
他突然想到普林斯可能是最后一个打开金库的人。
He turns the big wheel and pulls.
他转动大轮并拉动。
The giant door swings slowly open.
巨大的大门缓缓打开。
Applause.
掌声。
Everybody-- everybody clapped.
每个人——每个人都鼓掌。
I was a little embarrassed.
我有点尴尬。
When the door came open, the archivist looked inside before I did.
当门打开时，档案保管员先于我向里面看了看。
I've just been trained, through decades of doing this, not to look.
经过数十年的训练，我刚刚接受了训练，不要去看。
Dave heard someone gasp.
戴夫听到有人喘息。
Dave McOmie And I looked inside and realized why.
戴夫·麦奥米（Dave McOmie） 我向内审视并意识到原因。
Very large vault-- I don't know the exact dimension, but approximately 20 feet by 40 feet.
非常大的拱顶——我不知道确切的尺寸，但大约 20 英尺 x 40 英尺。
Now, by bank standards, that is on the large side.
现在，按照银行的标准，这个数字已经很大了。
And yet, there was hardly any room in the vault, because it was just jam-packed with these industrial shelving units, and every one of them was packed bottom to top with tapes.
然而，金库里几乎没有任何空间，因为里面挤满了这些工业搁架单元，每个搁架单元从下到上都用胶带包裹着。
The vault was filled with music, thousands of recordings, most of it never released.
保险库里充满了音乐和数千张唱片，其中大部分从未发行。
One small detail I hadn't heard before-- it seemed, kind of, sweet.
有一个我以前从未听说过的小细节——看起来有点甜蜜。
Dave has a picture of this.
戴夫有一张这样的照片。
There was a piece of paper hanging in the vault by a very old computer.
金库里有一台非常旧的电脑旁边挂着一张纸。
It apparently functioned as a database, because the paper had instructions.
它显然起到了数据库的作用，因为报纸上有说明。
"Introducing Mr. Vault Guy.
“介绍一下 Vault Guy 先生。
That's right.
没错。
No more messy papercuts.
不再有凌乱的剪纸。
To use Mr. Vault Guy, follow these simple instructions.
要使用 Mr. Vault Guy，请遵循以下简单说明。
One, choose The Vault.
一、选择Vault。
Enter.
输入。
Two, choose Search, slash Update, Enter twice." Like I said, it was an old computer.
二，选择搜索，斜线更新，输入两次。”就像我说的，这是一台旧电脑。
"Press F10, and voila.
“按 F10，瞧。
Continue pressing F10, and all tapes under these categories will appear."
继续按 F10，这些类别下的所有磁带都会出现。”
And at the end, it read, "dig it?
最后，它写道：“挖它？
Dig it.
挖吧。
Any questions?
有疑问吗？
Ask Chuck." Dave looked around the vault.
问问查克吧。”戴夫环顾金库。
Prince was famously prolific, constantly making and recording things.
Prince 是出了名的多产，他不断地创作和录制东西。
The two of them were about the same age.
两人年龄相仿。
Prince was 57 when he died.
普林斯去世时年仅 57 岁。
Dave was 59.
戴夫 59 岁。
Well, it's just sad to be cut down relatively young, still full of things to offer the world.
好吧，在相对年轻的时候就被砍掉真是令人难过，因为仍然充满了可以为世界提供的东西。
It's super sad.
真是超级难过啊
Yeah, it was like you were there in the presence of all the stuff he hadn't finished, you know.
是的，就好像你在他未完成的所有事情面前，你知道。
Right.
正确的。
David Kestenbaum They've started to release some of that stuff from inside the vault.
David Kestenbaum 他们已经开始从金库内释放一些东西。
The first recording was called "Piano and a Microphone." It was Prince, just playing a piano and singing.
第一张录音被称为“钢琴和麦克风”。是Prince，只是弹钢琴、唱歌。
I wanted to play you one of the songs.
我想给你播放其中一首歌。
But you know what's even more difficult than opening up a bank vault?
但你知道什么比打开银行金库更困难吗？
Licensing a Prince song for use on the radio.
授权 Prince 歌曲在广播中使用。
Prince, throughout his life, was famous for wanting to control the music he made.
普林斯一生都以想要控制自己创作的音乐而闻名。
There's a reason he kept it in a vault.
他把它放在保险库里是有原因的。
When you hear one of these recordings from the vault, is there any part of you that feels like, I helped make that happen, in some small way?
当你听到来自金库的这些录音时，你是否有任何一部分感觉，我以某种微小的方式帮助实现了这一目标？
No, not at all.
不，一点也不。
David Kestenbaum There are all kinds of people who are excellent in what they do.
David Kestenbaum 有各种各样的人在他们所做的事情上都很出色。
They are the types of people who can write so many songs, they fill a vault.
他们是那种可以写出很多歌曲的人，他们可以填满一个金库。
There's a quieter kind also.
还有一种比较安静的。
The kind who can get those songs out so smoothly, you don't know how hard it was.
那种能如此顺利地把这些歌唱出来的人，你不知道有多难。
David Kestenbaum is our senior editor.
大卫·凯斯滕鲍姆 (David Kestenbaum) 是我们的高级编辑。
Dave McOmie has written a memoir.
戴夫·麦奥米写了一本回忆录。
It's called Safecracker, A Chronicle of the Coolest Job in the World.
这本书的名字叫《保险箱破解者，世界上最酷工作的编年史》。
[MUSIC - "ARE YOU GOING MY WAY" BY THE ESSEX]
[音乐 - 埃塞克斯的“ARE YOU GOING MY WAY”]
Credits Ira Glass Our program was produced today by Bim Adewunmi.
图片来源 Ira Glass 今天我们的节目由 Bim Adewunmi 制作。
The people who put together today's program include Dana Chivvis, Sean Cole, Andrea Lopez Cruzado, Aviva DeKornfeld, Damien Graef, Chana Jaffe-Walt, Lina Misitzis, Stowe Nelson, Katherine Rae Mondo, Nadia Reiman, Robyn Semien, Alissa Shipp, Alix Spiegel, Jessica Suriano, Christopher Swetala, Matt Tierney, Julie Whitaker, Chloee Weiner, and Diane Wu.
今天节目的制作人包括 Dana Chivvis、Sean Cole、Andrea Lopez Cruzado、Aviva DeKornfeld、Damien Graef、Chana Jaffe-Walt、Lina Misitzis、Stowe Nelson、Katherine Rae Mondo、Nadia Reiman、Robyn Semien、Alissa Shipp、Alix Spiegel、Jessica Suriano、Christopher Swetala、Matt Tierney、Julie Whitaker、克洛伊·韦纳和黛安·吴。
Our managing editor is Sarah Abdurrahman, our senior editor is David Kestenbaum, our executive editor is Emanuele Berry.
我们的总编辑是 Sarah Abdurrahman，我们的高级编辑是 David Kestenbaum，我们的执行编辑是 Emanuele Berry。
Special thanks today to Scotty Anderson, Matt Dittman, Charlie Vela, Josiah Kosier, Maureen Meyer, Rafael Garcia, Rochelle Garza, Kerry Glencorse, Steve Gough, and Chris Crawford.
今天特别感谢 Scotty Anderson、Matt Dittman、Charlie Vela、Josiah Kosier、Maureen Meyer、Rafael Garcia、Rochelle Garza、Kerry Glencorse、Steve Gough 和 Chris Crawford。
The voice actors for the smuggler story, Act 1, in order of appearance-- Isaiah Zavala, Ezekiel Pacheco, Gilberto Ortiz, and Elijah Rodriguez.
走私者故事第一幕的配音演员（按出场顺序排列）是：以赛亚·萨瓦拉 (Isaiah Zavala)、以西结·帕切科 (Ezekiel Pacheco)、吉尔伯托·奥尔蒂斯 (Gilberto Ortiz) 和伊利亚·罗德里格斯 (Elijah Rodriguez)。
Our website-- ThisAmericanLife.org, This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.
我们的网站 -- ThisAmericanLife.org，《This American Life》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台提供。
Thanks, as always, to our program's co-founder, Mr Torey Malatia.
一如既往地感谢我们项目的联合创始人 Torey Malatia 先生。
You know, I was in a long line at the coffee shop this week.
你知道，这周我在咖啡店排了很长的队。
And I got to the front, I was about to order, Torey walks in, cuts the line, comes right up to me.
我走到前面，正要点菜，托里走进来，插队，径直走到我面前。
I told him, "Torey, you can't jump in front of all these people!"
我告诉他：“托里，你不能在这么多人面前跳！”
He wouldn't listen.
他不听。
Put his hands over his ears says to me--
他把手放在耳朵上对我说——
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
This American Life This American Life 与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。