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Prologue: Prologue Sean Cole From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
序言：序言 来自 WBEZ 芝加哥的 Sean Cole，这就是《美国生活》。
I'm Sean Cole, sitting in for Ira Glass.
我是肖恩·科尔，代理艾拉·格拉斯。
Back when Erin was in high school, she had this friend, Josh.
当艾琳（Erin）上高中时，她有一个朋友，乔什（Josh）。
They'd known each other practically since they were born.
他们几乎从出生起就认识了。
Their parents were friends.
他们的父母是朋友。
This was in a small, small city in Wisconsin.
这是在威斯康星州的一个很小的城市。
Fun was going down to this park with buffalo in it and throwing them hunks of bread.
有趣的是去这个有水牛的公园，向它们扔大块面包。
Anyway, Erin was 15, Josh was a year older.
无论如何，艾琳 15 岁，乔希大一岁。
And one particular day--
还有一个特别的日子——
He gave me a mixtape, like a mixed CD-ROM.
他给了我一张混音带，就像一张混合 CD-ROM。
Just to say, this was long enough ago that the word "ROM" naturally followed the word "CD." We're talking maybe 2007, 2008.
只是说，很久以前，“ROM”这个词自然就跟在“CD”这个词后面了。我们谈论的可能是 2007 年、2008 年。
You can see it in your mind's eye, you mean.
你的意思是，你可以在你的脑海中看到它。
You're not looking at it, right?
你不看它，对吧？
No, certainly not.
不，当然不是。
I can see, like, Sharpie scribbled all over it in sort of scrawled handwriting and squiggles, is what I can recall.
我可以看到，就像我所记得的那样，记号笔在上面用潦草的笔迹和曲线写满了。
Josh was into theater.
乔什喜欢戏剧。
He and Erin did plays together, actually-- musicals at this little community theater in town.
事实上，他和艾琳一起在镇上的这个小社区剧院里表演音乐剧。
He was like, if there was a jock of theatre kids, like, that would be him.
他就像，如果有一群戏剧演员，那就是他。
Hm.
嗯。
Erin So charismatic.
艾琳很有魅力。
You know, like, the star of every play.
你知道，就像每部剧的明星一样。
Really, like, grabbing everything he could out of life.
真的，就像，从生活中抓住他能抓住的一切。
You could say he was a little bit dramatic.
可以说他有点戏剧化。
She only remembers a couple of the songs that were on the mixtape.
她只记得混音带上的几首歌曲。
She does remember the exact number of songs, for reasons that will become clear in a minute.
她确实记得歌曲的确切数量，原因很快就会清楚。
There were 12 of them.
他们一共有12个人。
12 songs.
12首歌曲。
I dutifully uploaded it into my iTunes and listened to it, and didn't think much of it.
我尽职尽责地将它上传到我的 iTunes 中并听了它，并没有想太多。
I definitely didn't read into it as I should have.
我绝对没有像我应该的那样阅读它。
I mean, literally.
我的意思是，字面意思。
Literally, because of what happened next.
从字面上看，是因为接下来发生的事情。
Mind you, this next part was months after he gave her the CD-- solidly months.
请注意，下一部分是在他给她 CD 几个月之后——整整几个月。
Oh, I was, I don't know, poking around in my iTunes library, reorganizing something.
哦，我不知道，在我的 iTunes 资料库中翻阅，重新整理一些东西。
And I'm looking at it, and it dawns on me that the song titles spell out, like an acrostic, "I love you, Erin."
当我看着它时，我突然意识到歌曲标题像一首离合诗一样拼出：“我爱你，艾琳。”
So down the left-hand side of the track listing in iTunes--
所以在 iTunes 曲目列表的左侧——
Mhm.
嗯。
Sean Cole --the first letter of every song as you read downward spelled out "I love you, Erin."
肖恩·科尔（Sean Cole）——当你向下读时，每首歌的第一个字母都是“我爱你，艾琳”。
Yeah, it did.
是的，确实如此。
Sean Cole Erin had missed it at first because, loading it into iTunes, somehow the track listing had been reversed.
肖恩·科尔·艾琳 (Sean Cole Erin) 起初错过了这首歌，因为将其加载到 iTunes 后，曲目列表不知何故被颠倒了。
So instead of spelling out "I love you, Erin," it said, "Nire ouy evol I." Not quite as romantic.
因此，它没有拼写“我爱你，艾琳”，而是说“Nire ouy evol I”。不太浪漫。
The two songs she still remembers?
她还记得那两首歌吗？
One was "Yellow" by Coldplay.
其中一首是酷玩乐队的《Yellow》。
That was the Y in you.
那就是你身上的Y。
The E at the end of love-- or maybe the beginning of Erin-- was "Elephant Love Medley" from the movie Moulin Rouge, which itself works a little like a mixtape.
Love结尾处的E——或者Erin的开头——是电影《红磨坊》中的“Elephant Love Medley”，它本身有点像混音带。
These two characters, Christian and Satine, just hurl lines from famous love songs back and forth at each other.
克里斯蒂安和萨汀这两个角色只是互相吐槽著名情歌中的台词。
[MUSIC - "ELEPHANT LOVE MEDLEY" FROM MOULIN ROUGE]
[音乐 - 来自红磨坊的“大象之爱混合曲”]
(SINGING) I can't survive without your sweet love.
（唱）没有你甜蜜的爱我就无法生存。
Oh, baby, don't leave me this way.
哦，宝贝，不要就这样离开我。
(SINGING) You'd think that people would have had enough of silly love songs.
（唱歌）你可能认为人们已经听够了愚蠢的情歌。
Erin got all cringey about that one.
艾琳对此感到非常畏缩。
And you might think "Elephant Love Medley" alone would be a dead giveaway.
你可能会认为仅“大象之爱混合泳”就已经是一个彻底的泄露。
But to her, that was just Josh being Josh.
但对她来说，那只是乔希就是乔希。
Like she said, dramatic.
就像她说的，戏剧性的。
A thing about mixtapes, they're like the emojis of yesteryear.
关于混音带，它们就像过去的表情符号。
You couldn't always be sure what the intended meaning was, or if the recipient would comprehend said meaning.
您无法始终确定其预期含义是什么，或者接收者是否会理解所述含义。
Like, does he love me, or does he just love these songs?
比如，他爱我，还是他只是喜欢这些歌曲？
So in that way, Josh literally spelling it out, leaving nothing to the imagination, was a decent strategy.
因此，乔什将其逐字逐句地拼写出来，不留下任何想象空间，这是一个不错的策略。
Except even that was lost on Erin due to some dumb hiccup in the machine.
但由于机器出现一些愚蠢的小问题，艾琳甚至失去了这一点。
It was-- you know, it was a lot.
这是——你知道，很多。
It was a lot of emotion, which I felt terrible for missing.
这是很多情感，我为错过它而感到难过。
Even if you're not going to reciprocate, at least you feel like you should be getting the gesture.
即使你不打算回报，至少你觉得你应该得到这个手势。
He was strictly a friend?
他严格来说是朋友吗？
Erin He was a friend.
艾琳 他是一个朋友。
We had like, kind of a thing.
我们有类似的事情。
You had kind of a thing?
你有什么事吗？
Erin Yeah.
艾琳 是的。
Nurturing a crush.
培养暗恋。
We never dated.
我们从未约会过。
But friends for a long time.
不过是好久的朋友了。
Um, you may.
嗯，你可以。
Sean Cole Did you ever kiss or anything?
肖恩·科尔 你接过吻吗？
I think we probably made out.
我想我们可能已经分手了。
I mean, I turned out to be gay, so it wasn't my cup of tea.
我的意思是，我原来是同性恋，所以这不是我喜欢的。
Right.
正确的。
Erin But-- revelations for the years to come.
艾琳·布特——未来几年的启示。
Just wasn't the time or gender.
只是时间和性别不合适。
Who knew?
谁知道？
Importantly, Erin has no memory of ever telling Josh she saw his secret message.
重要的是，艾琳不记得曾告诉乔什她看到了他的秘密信息。
So he was just left in the dark, wondering.
于是他就被留在黑暗中，疑惑不已。
They stayed friends, moved on, saw each other a few more times after high school, but eventually lost touch.
他们仍然是朋友，继续前进，高中毕业后又见过几次面，但最终失去了联系。
They haven't spoken in years at this point.
此时他们已经很多年没有说过话了。
It's funny that something that deeply felt was communicated and received, and yet remained unspoken.
有趣的是，一些深切的感受被传达和接受，但仍然没有说出来。
I always thought of her like Hermione Granger.
我一直认为她就像赫敏·格兰杰一样。
She was like my Hermione Granger.
她就像我的赫敏格兰杰。
This, of course, is Josh.
这当然是乔什。
I didn't bring up the mixtape right away when I talked to him.
当我和他谈话时，我没有立即提起混音带。
First, I just asked him what he remembered about Erin.
首先，我只是问他对艾琳的记忆。
She was just so smart and well-respected by everybody, and could just talk circles around anybody.
她非常聪明，受到每个人的尊敬，并且可以在任何人周围谈论。
And yeah, her intelligence was very intimidating to me.
是的，她的智力让我感到非常害怕。
Intimidating, really?
真的很吓人吗？
Josh But in a friendly way.
乔希 但以一种友好的方式。
She would never show off about it.
她永远不会炫耀这一点。
I had a crush on her, to be honest.
说实话，我很迷恋她。
Any time I would happen to drive by her place, I would think, like, the one that got away.
每当我开车路过她家时，我都会想起那个逃跑的人。
You know, that was always like the feeling.
你知道，这种感觉一直都是这样。
Josh, unfortunately, doesn't have a copy of the mixtape anymore either.
不幸的是，乔什也没有了混音带的副本。
Didn't remember any of the songs that were on it.
不记得里面有什么歌了。
But he did remember spelling out his devotion with the titles.
但他确实记得用标题表达了他的奉献精神。
He was bashful about it, as a lot of people would be when talking about stuff they did as a teenager.
他对此很害羞，就像很多人在谈论他们十几岁的时候所做的事情时一样。
I guess I was reading, like, Dan Brown and all of these kind of spy things, and just, like, throwing hidden messages into things.
我想我正在读丹·布朗和所有这些间谍作品，就像将隐藏的信息扔进东西里一样。
And yeah, I guess I was trying to do it in my own way.
是的，我想我正在尝试以自己的方式来做这件事。
[LAUGHING] Sean Cole And you could practically hear him blushing when I told him that he had put "Elephant Love Medley" on there.
[笑] Sean Cole 当我告诉他他放了《Elephant Love Medley》时，你几乎可以听到他脸红的声音。
[GIGGLING] Josh Yep.
[咯咯笑]乔什是的。
That's because I thought I was Christian from Moulin Rouge.
那是因为我以为我是来自红磨坊的基督徒。
Yeah.
是的。
I just loved the kind of level of seriousness he put on romantic love.
我只是喜欢他对浪漫爱情的认真态度。
I always had a thing about that.
我一直对此有一个想法。
Clearly.
清楚地。
Josh And much to my detriment at times, honestly.
乔希 老实说，有时对我来说很不利。
And you know, there's a million ways we could psychoanalyze that, but--
你知道，我们可以通过一百万种方式进行心理分析，但是——
[LAUGHING] Yeah.
[笑]是的。
Did I-- did I tell her that it spelled that?
我有没有告诉她这个拼写是这个？
I really hope I didn't.
我真的希望我没有。
No, no, no. Josh OK.
不，不，不。乔希 好的。
I hope she found it out on her own.
我希望她自己能发现这一点。
Well, OK.
好吧，好吧。
So here's what happened.
所以这就是发生的事情。
Erin brought the CD home.
艾琳把CD带回家。
I took Josh through everything Erin told me.
我向乔什讲述了艾琳告诉我的一切。
After all these years, he was only just now learning what happened with his little Da Vinci love code.
这么多年过去了，他现在才知道他的小达芬奇爱情密码到底发生了什么。
That she had seen it, the message got through.
她看到了，消息就传了过来。
She just hadn't felt the same.
她只是没有同样的感觉。
Wow.
哇。
OK.
好的。
Well, I guess I couldn't have asked for it to go any better than that.
好吧，我想我不可能要求它比这更好了。
Well, because it's a happy accident, you know?
嗯，因为这是一次快乐的意外，你知道吗？
It's kind of cool that it happened in its own time.
这件事发生在自己的时代真是太酷了。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I picture a lovelorn Josh sitting in his bedroom, like waiting, like wondering, like, when is she going call me?
我想象着失恋的乔什坐在他的卧室里，像是在等待，像是在想，像是，她什么时候会给我打电话？
Yeah, I mean, that's true.
是的，我的意思是，确实如此。
As I said, I was kind of intimidated by her, you know?
正如我所说，我有点被她吓到了，你知道吗？
And I think, particularly at that time, for Erin to be the person that I would date was, like, beyond something that seemed realistic, I guess.
我认为，特别是在那个时候，艾琳成为我要约会的人，我想，这似乎超出了现实的范围。
Oh, you thought she was out of your league.
哦，你以为她配不上你。
I wanted her to know somehow on some level, but I also didn't want to push the matter or make her, you know, feel uncomfortable, or-- I don't know.
我想让她在某种程度上知道，但我也不想推动这件事或让她，你知道，感到不舒服，或者——我不知道。
I always thought she'd probably turn me down.
我一直以为她可能会拒绝我。
I guess I just wonder-- I mean, other than it being a sort of very opaque and, one could argue, ineffective way of conveying one's love, to put it in an acrostic on a mixtape--
我想我只是想知道——我的意思是，除了把它放在混音带上的缩写词中，这是一种非常不透明的、人们可能会说是无效的表达爱意的方式之外——
I don't think it was ineffective.
我不认为这是无效的。
I challenge that.
我对此提出质疑。
I think it's like-- it's not even about if it got through, in terms of a really, really clear communication.
我认为，就真正非常清晰的沟通而言，这甚至与是否成功无关。
It's like, if it was there, even if it was out of order, you know, when she first popped it in, it was somehow there, I think, in my mind-- like energetically, you know?
就好像，如果它在那里，即使它出了问题，你知道，当她第一次把它放进去时，它就以某种方式在那里，我想，在我的脑海里——就像精力充沛，你知道吗？
And I still see the transmission, even if it was kind of quiet, you know?
我仍然可以看到传输，即使它有点安静，你知道吗？
I don't want to sound too grand, but I think that right there is the power of mixtapes when you put them together a certain way-- the power of music, even.
我不想听起来太宏大，但我认为，当你以某种方式将混音带组合在一起时，它们就会发挥出力量——甚至是音乐的力量。
Or at least the power that we believe it has.
或者至少是我们认为它具有的力量。
That it can confess devotion on our behalf, even in the form of an exploded puzzle.
它可以代表我们表达奉献精神，即使是以分解谜题的形式。
Even the most casual mixtape-- or playlist these days-- that you make for a friend, you're saying, this is what I like.
即使是你为朋友制作的最随意的混音带（或现在的播放列表），你也会说，这就是我喜欢的。
Or a lot of times, this is what I'm feeling right now.
或者很多时候，这就是我现在的感受。
In a way, you're saying, this is who I am.
在某种程度上，你是在说，这就是我。
Songs gathered together like that are a kind of parlance, a language.
这样聚集在一起的歌曲就是一种说法、一种语言。
The words are someone else's, but they're also our own.
这些话是别人的，但也是我们自己的。
So that's what's coming up on today's episode, kind of a mixtape of its own, because we have a crush on you, and because the particular songs in this show tell you a surprising amount about the people listening to them.
这就是今天这一集的内容，有点像它自己的混音带，因为我们迷恋你，也因为这个节目中的特定歌曲告诉你关于听它们的人的令人惊讶的信息。
We can't wait to play them for you.
我们迫不及待地想为您演奏它们。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
So you use music to connect with other people or send a message a la mix tape, but there are all of these other times, of course, when you sort of communicate with yourself through music.
因此，您使用音乐与其他人联系或通过混合磁带发送消息，但当然，当您通过音乐与自己交流时，还有所有这些其他时间。
Putting on a song to revel in some feeling, or feeling like this or that band or singer is speaking directly to you.
放一首歌来陶醉于某种感觉，或者感觉像这个或那个乐队或歌手正在直接与你说话。
This next collection of songs works like that.
下一张歌曲集就是这样的。
They're all of a piece in a way that writer Nichole Perkins really related to.
它们在某种程度上是一体的，与作家妮可·帕金斯（Nichole Perkins）真正相关。
Here's Nichole.
这是妮可。
There have always been songs about cheating spouses and their lovers.
一直有关于欺骗配偶及其情人的歌曲。
When women sing them, they tend to be from the point of view of the disappointed and hurt wife.
当女性唱这些歌曲时，她们往往是从失望和受伤的妻子的角度出发。
In Dolly Parton's unforgettable "Jolene," she begs a woman not to take her man.
在多莉·帕顿令人难忘的《乔琳》中，她恳求一个女人不要带走她的男人。
In Shirley Brown's bluesy, confrontational "Woman to Woman," Shirley lets the other woman know she's not letting her ruin her happy home.
在雪莉·布朗的蓝调、对抗性的《女人对女人》中，雪莉让另一个女人知道她不会让她毁了她幸福的家庭。
But how happy can your home be if you have to call another woman and tell her it's happy?
但如果你必须打电话给另一个女人并告诉她你的家很幸福，你的家还能幸福吗？
Songs like these make the other woman a Villain with a capital V.
像这样的歌曲让另一个女人成为一个大写V的恶棍。
Those songs weren't for me.
那些歌不适合我。
I was more interested in "auntie songs," the songs from the point of view of the other woman.
我对“阿姨歌曲”更感兴趣，这些歌曲是从另一个女人的角度出发的。
They were what women in the wrong corner of love triangles sang about finding good love in the middle of bad decisions.
这是处于三角恋错误角落的女性所唱的歌，讲述在错误的决定中找到美好的爱情。
They were old-school soul and R&B hits that our mothers, aunties, and older play cousins used to listen to with shining eyes and far away expressions, holding sweating glasses of drinks that were off limits to us kids.
这些都是老派灵魂音乐和 R&B 热门歌曲，我们的母亲、阿姨和年长的表兄弟姐妹过去常常用闪亮的眼睛和遥远的表情聆听，手里拿着大汗淋漓的玻璃杯，喝着我们孩子们不能喝的饮料。
We were too young to be singing those songs, but we felt their power anyway.
我们还太年轻，无法唱这些歌曲，但我们还是感受到了它们的力量。
We heard the longing in the singer's vocal acrobatics, and it moved us, even if we weren't sure why.
我们从歌手的声音杂技中听到了渴望，它感动了我们，即使我们不确定为什么。
We'd hear them on the radio, played during every quiet storm, sometimes with dedications, like "From Denise to that special someone.
我们会在广播中听到它们，在每次安静的暴风雨中播放，有时带有奉献精神，例如“从丹尼斯到那个特别的人。
She says you know who you are." And then the ultimate side chick anthem, "As We Lay," by Shirley Murdock, would begin to play, a song about everything that happens in the moments before your man has to go home to his wife.
她说你知道你是谁。”然后，雪莉·默多克（Shirley Murdock）创作的终极小鸡歌曲《As We Lay》将开始演奏，这首歌讲述了你的男人必须回家见妻子之前发生的一切。
[MUSIC - "AS WE LAY" BY SHIRLEY MURDOCK]
[音乐 - 雪莉·默多克的《当我们躺着》]
(SINGING) Morning, and we slept the night away.
（唱歌）早上，我们睡了一夜。
Auntie songs are where we got to hear from the other woman and realize maybe she's actually a human being with emotions too.
阿姨的歌曲让我们听到另一个女人的声音，并意识到也许她实际上也是一个有情感的人。
We're hearing the perspectives of women who know their love is futile, but they'll take what they can get for as long as they can get it.
我们听到了一些女性的观点，她们知道自己的爱情是徒劳的，但只要能得到，她们就会竭尽全力。
(SINGING) We both belong to someone else as we slept the night away.
（唱歌）当我们睡了一夜时，我们都属于别人了。
One of the most famous auntie songs is an undercover one that most people don't realize is from the perspective of the other woman.
最著名的阿姨歌曲之一是一首卧底歌曲，大多数人没有意识到这是从另一个女人的角度出发的。
In "Saving All My Love For You," Whitney Houston calls out her lover's lies, even as she continues to wait for him.
在《把我所有的爱都留给你》中，惠特尼·休斯顿揭露了她爱人的谎言，尽管她仍在等待他。
"You used to tell me we'd run away together.
“你曾经告诉过我我们会一起逃跑。
Love gives you the right to be free.
爱给你自由的权利。
You said be patient.
你说要有耐心。
Just wait a little longer.
再等一会儿。
But that's just an old fantasy."
但这只是一个古老的幻想。”
[MUSIC - "SAVING ALL MY LOVE FOR YOU" BY WHITNEY HOUSTON]
[音乐 - 惠特尼·休斯顿的《为你保存我所有的爱》]
When Whitney hits that beautiful extended high note on "fantasy," it feels like we're all falling back into an ocean of her lover's lies with her.
当惠特尼在“幻想”中演奏出美丽而延伸的高音时，感觉我们都和她一起掉进了她情人谎言的海洋中。
And like her, we let ourselves be carried away anyway.
和她一样，我们无论如何都让自己忘乎所以。
(SINGING) But that's just an old fantasy.
（唱）但这只是一个古老的幻想。
When I was 25 years old and living in New Orleans, I met a man with a voice made for night.
当我 25 岁时住在新奥尔良时，我遇到了一个有着适合夜晚的声音的男人。
He was a lovely, nerdy thing with a shaved head and freckles, a sprinkle of joy across his nose and cheeks, and a few dots on his lips that were clearly targets for my affection.
他是个可爱的书呆子，剃着光头，长着雀斑，鼻子和脸颊上带着一丝喜悦，嘴唇上有几个点，显然是我喜爱的目标。
He wasn't yet 30, but he already had the look of a hip-hop professor in line at Whole Foods.
他还不到30岁，但他的样子已经像在全食超市排队的嘻哈教授了。
I'll call him Bayard.
我就叫他贝亚德吧。
At dinner with him and a friend, I laughed too often and too hard at something Bayard said.
在与他和一位朋友共进晚餐时，我经常因为贝亚德所说的话而大笑。
He slipped me a questioning glance after one giggle too many, and I tried to pull myself together.
在笑了太多次之后，他向我投来询问的目光，我努力让自己镇定下来。
But it was too late.
但为时已晚。
At a club later, we ended up sitting next to each other, trying to talk over the music.
后来在一个俱乐部，我们坐在一起，试图谈论音乐。
At midnight, we sat in my car, talking.
半夜，我们坐在车里聊天。
And then the sun reminded us our deodorants had been working for 24 hours.
然后太阳提醒我们我们的除臭剂已经工作了 24 小时。
I decided to shoot my shot.
我决定开枪。
Is there anyone back home waiting for your morning call, I asked him.
我问他，家里有人在等你叫醒吗？
He took a long time to answer, which was answer enough.
他花了很长时间才回答，这已经足够了。
Yeah, there is, he finally said.
是的，有，他最后说。
He looked down at his hands, and I looked at them too.
他低头看着自己的双手，我也看着它们。
Of course he was involved with someone.
当然，他和某人有关系。
He was smart, cute, and funny, and I'd met him at the wrong time.
他聪明、可爱、有趣，而我却在错误的时间遇见了他。
We exchanged email addresses because that felt safe.
我们交换了电子邮件地址，因为这样感觉很安全。
There was nothing wrong with having a pen pal, was there?
有一个笔友并没有什么错，不是吗？
Soon, we were exchanging pages of text almost daily.
很快，我们几乎每天都会交换几页文本。
He'd call me at work and have me crying from laughter.
他会在工作时给我打电话，让我笑哭。
And sometimes, he'd call me at night when that someone back home was out with her girls, and he'd talk to me with that voice saying what his words wouldn't.
有时，当家里有人和她的女儿们出去时，他会在晚上给我打电话，他会用那种声音跟我说话，说出他的话不会说的话。
After about three months of constant communication, he came back to New Orleans for another visit.
经过大约三个月的不断沟通，他再次回到新奥尔良访问。
I don't know what he told that someone back home, but he told me he loved me.
我不知道他对家里的某个人说了些什么，但他告诉我他爱我。
I said it back to him.
我又对他说了一遍。
We kissed.
我们接吻了。
My memory tells me I had candles lit, and that's probably true.
我的记忆告诉我我点燃了蜡烛，这可能是真的。
I do love candles.
我确实喜欢蜡烛。
I remember his face as he looked at me and told me I was beautiful.
我记得他看着我并告诉我我很漂亮时的表情。
I believed him.
我相信他。
He was engaged to be married, and for the most part, I didn't care.
他已经订婚了，而在大多数情况下，我不在乎。
I definitely had some woman-to-woman guilt, since I'd had my own heartbreaking experiences with cheating exes.
我确实对女人对女人有一些内疚，因为我自己也有过与出轨的前任令人心碎的经历。
But Bayard and I started seeing each other when I was firmly in what we'd now call my "hot girl summer" phase.
但当我正处于我们现在所说的“辣妹夏天”阶段时，贝亚德和我开始见面。
I also knew I wasn't the first woman he cheated on her with.
我也知道我不是他第一个欺骗她的女人。
I decided I couldn't care more about his woman than he did.
我决定我不能比他更关心他的女人了。
I refused to take responsibility for his decisions, but I had no problem benefiting from them.
我拒绝为他的决定承担责任，但我毫不犹豫地从中受益。
Those auntie songs I had swayed along with because I appreciated a talented voice and good music appealed differently to me during this time.
那些我跟着阿姨唱的歌，因为我欣赏有才华的声音和好音乐，这段时间对我的吸引力有所不同。
Now they were pep talks.
现在他们是鼓舞士气的讲话。
In "Secret Lovers," by Atlantic Starr, a pair of lovers are both devoted to other people, yet unable to stop their attraction.
在大西洋斯塔尔的《秘密恋人》中，一对恋人都对他人忠诚，但却无法阻止他们的吸引力。
I didn't have anyone I was committed to, but there was a particular verse I kept going back to while I fancied myself in love with Bayard.
我没有忠诚的人，但当我幻想自己爱上贝亚德时，我不断回想起一首特别的诗句。
[MUSIC - "SECRET LOVERS" BY ATLANTIC STARR]
[音乐 - 大西洋斯塔尔的《秘密情人》]
"Sitting at home, I do nothing all day but think about you and hope that you're OK, hoping you'll call before anyone gets home.
“我整天坐在家里，什么也不做，只想着你，希望你一切都好，希望你能在别人回家之前给我打电话。
I wait anxiously alone by the phone." This is the stuff of schoolgirl crushes, of clumsy rom-com heroines, of swooning damsels everywhere.
我独自在电话旁焦急地等待。”这是女学生迷恋的东西，是笨拙的浪漫喜剧女主角的东西，也是到处都是令人着迷的少女的东西。
And that's how I felt about Bayard.
这就是我对贝亚德的感觉。
It just so happened he was committed to someone else.
碰巧他已经委身于别人了。
(SINGING) Secret lovers, that's what we are.
（唱）秘密恋人，这就是我们。
Tried so hard to hide the way we feel.
竭尽全力隐藏我们的感受。
A few weeks after that candlelit visit, I was unexpectedly hospitalized and Bayard was there for me.
那次烛光探访几周后，我出乎意料地住院了，贝亚德在我身边。
He called my mother, cleaned up my apartment, and made sure my cat had a fresh litter box.
他打电话给我的母亲，清理了我的公寓，并确保我的猫有一个新的猫砂盆。
He stayed with me the entire week, even after my family arrived.
他整个星期都陪着我，甚至在我的家人到达之后也是如此。
The care he showed me was a fantasy I'd never allowed myself to indulge.
他对我的关心是我从未允许自己沉迷的幻想。
He was married a few months later.
几个月后他结婚了。
He emailed me from the honeymoon.
他在度蜜月时给我发了电子邮件。
And several months after that, we made plans to spend a weekend at a hotel together.
几个月后，我们计划一起在酒店度过一个周末。
He left the hotel website up on his laptop, and his wife found a book I had inscribed with something sneaky.
他把酒店的网站留在了笔记本电脑上，他的妻子发现了一本我在书中刻有一些鬼鬼祟祟的东西。
She eventually reached out to me via email and AIM, instant messaging of old.
她最终通过电子邮件和 AIM（老式即时消息）联系了我。
The exact messages have been lost to time and anger, but the gist remains.
确切的信息已经随着时间和愤怒而消失，但要点仍然存在。
What did he tell you about me?
他告诉你什么关于我的事？
He didn't talk much about you.
他没有太多谈论你。
Why you?
为什么是你？
You'd have to ask him.
你得问他。
Why did you do it?
你为什么这么做？
I wanted to.
我想要。
Do you love him?
你爱他吗？
I think so, yes.
我想是的，是的。
Do you want him?
你想要他吗？
No. I'm not trying to take him from you.
不，我并不是想把他从你身边夺走。
I saw your pictures.
我看到了你的照片。
OK.
好的。
Does he love you?
他爱你吗？
Ask him.
问他。
Why did he do it?
他为什么这么做？
Ask him.
问他。
I ping-ponged between a strange loyalty to him, the need to defend myself, the desire to protect her, and the need to be catty.
我在对他的一种奇怪的忠诚、保护自己的需要、保护她的愿望和狡猾的需要之间摇摆不定。
I wanted to tell her to leave, that he cheated before, that if it hadn't been me, it would have been someone else.
我想告诉她走开，他以前出轨过，如果不是我，也会是别人。
Bayard's wife reminded me of the petty girls in school who couldn't understand why guys would be interested in me.
贝亚德的妻子让我想起了学校里那些小气的女孩，她们不明白为什么男人会对我感兴趣。
I didn't have the things I was supposed to in order to be attractive.
我没有拥有那些我应该拥有的东西来变得有吸引力。
I got in a few stingers, but I let her have her shots, whatever she needed to feel better.
我中了几针，但我还是让她注射，不管她需要什么，让她感觉好点。
In giving myself what I wanted, I'd hurt another woman.
在给自己想要的东西时，我伤害了另一个女人。
I felt guilty, even as I would not allow myself to feel ashamed.
我感到内疚，尽管我不允许自己感到羞耻。
When I wanted to brush away any concerns about how he was treating his wife, or when I'd start to feel bad about not having a man of my own, I'd put on the SOS Band's "Just Be Good To Me" to gas myself up and keep me focused on myself.
当我想消除对他如何对待妻子的任何担忧时，或者当我开始为没有自己的男人而感到难过时，我会播放 SOS 乐队的“Just Be Good To Me”来给自己加油，让我专注于自己。
[MUSIC - "JUST BE GOOD TO ME" BY SOS BAND]
[音乐 - SOS 乐队的“对我好一点”]
"I don't care about your other girls, just be good to me." His wife didn't understand how I could be with him and claim to love him, but not want to take him from her.
“我不关心你其他的女孩，你只要对我好一点就行了。”他的妻子不明白我怎么能和他在一起并声称爱他，却又不想把他从她身边夺走。
I was no fool.
我不是傻瓜。
I firmly believe in the adage, "How you got him is how you get got."
我坚信这句格言：“你如何得到他，你就如何得到他。”
(SINGING) I don't care about your other girls.
（唱）我不关心你的其他女孩。
Just be good to me.
只要对我好一点。
Oooh.
哦。
I think I stopped loving him first.
我想我首先不再爱他了。
He was the only man I was saying "I love you" to in a romantic sense, but he couldn't say the same, so I stopped answering his emails and calls.
他是我唯一一个以浪漫的方式对他说“我爱你”的人，但他不能说同样的话，所以我停止回复他的电子邮件和电话。
He wrote me a letter and I burned it, unopened.
他给我写了一封信，我把它烧掉了，没有拆封。
After I made the decision to let my relationship with Bayard go, I found myself holding a sweating glass and staring at a blank wall.
当我决定结束与贝亚德的关系后，我发现自己拿着一个出汗的玻璃杯，盯着一堵空白的墙。
The auntie songs once gave me strength, and now they gave me permission to cry.
阿姨的歌曾经给了我力量，现在却让我可以哭泣。
I missed someone who was never mine, even though I had made a good decision in moving on from the affair, a decision that had been mine.
我想念一个从来不属于我的人，尽管我做出了一个很好的决定，摆脱这件事，这个决定本来就是我的。
In most auntie songs, we hear the other woman passively waiting for the man to make time for her.
在大多数阿姨歌曲中，我们听到另一个女人被动地等待男人为她腾出时间。
But in "Everything I Miss At Home," the singer Cherrelle tells the story of a woman who initiates her infidelity and lets us know she is the one dissatisfied in her main relationship.
但在《我想念家里的一切》中，歌手切雷尔讲述了一个女人的故事，她发起了不忠，并让我们知道她是对她的主要关系不满意的人。
She cheats without regrets and is grateful to have found someone who gives her everything she's not getting at home.
她毫不后悔地出轨，并很感激找到了一个能给她她在家里得不到的一切的人。
She was not the object of desire, she was in control of it.
她不是欲望的对象，她掌控着欲望。
The song is a groovy slow jam made for a two-step and eye contact, perfect for a woman who refuses to feel remorseful about receiving love from unexpected places.
这首歌是一首节奏感十足的慢速即兴即兴歌曲，以两步和眼神交流为主题，非常适合那些拒绝因从意想不到的地方获得爱而感到悔恨的女人。
[MUSIC - "EVERYTHING I MISS AT HOME" BY CHERRELLE]
[音乐 - CHERRELLE 的《我想念家里的一切》]
(SINGING) You give me attention.
（唱歌）你给我关注。
You're someone who understands my needs.
你是一个了解我需求的人。
I let these songs guide me through an affair, but they didn't tell me what happened after I'd moved on.
我让这些歌曲引导我度过一段风流韵事，但它们没有告诉我在我继续前进后发生了什么。
I started reading romance novels when I was very young and became addicted to the promise of happily ever after.
我很小的时候就开始读言情小说，并沉迷于从此幸福快乐的承诺。
Forever was found in fiction and fairy tales.
永远存在于小说和童话故事中。
But in auntie songs, forever was a stolen night.
但在阿姨的歌曲中，永远是一个被偷走的夜晚。
Does the other woman get her happy ending?
另一个女人有幸福的结局吗？
Maybe it's enough to stay in a loop of borrowed time.
也许停留在借来的时间的循环中就足够了。
I still haven't figured that out yet.
我还没弄清楚。
But I know I can be loved any way I want.
但我知道我可以以任何我想要的方式被爱。
(SINGING) I was just out on the town in search of some fun.
（唱歌）我只是在城里寻找一些乐趣。
I wasn't looking for love.
我不是在寻找爱情。
Nichole Perkins is a writer from Nashville, Tennessee.
妮可·珀金斯是一位来自田纳西州纳什维尔的作家。
Her memoir, from which this essay is adapted, is called Sometimes I Trip On How Happy We Could Be, and it's out now.
这篇文章改编自她的回忆录，名为《有时我会为我们能有多幸福而感到困惑》，现已出版。
Coming up, they say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it can also make you a beloved rock critic, at least in one case.
接下来，他们说一点知识是一件危险的事情，但它也可以让你成为受人喜爱的摇滚评论家，至少在某些情况下是这样。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues.
芝加哥公共广播电台一分钟后我们的节目仍在继续。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Sean Cole.
我是肖恩·科尔。
Since Ira's was away this week, we made you a mixtape.
由于 Ira 本周不在，我们为您制作了一张混音带。
It's called "This is Just Some Songs." And it's just some songs.
它的名字叫“这只是一些歌曲”。这只是一些歌曲。
Don't get excited.
别激动。
We're at Track Two, Music is Easy.
我们现在处于第二轨，音乐很简单。
It struck me that most of the songs in the show today are from a long time ago, and I wanted to play you like a minute of this one tune.
我突然意识到今天节目中的大部分歌曲都是很久以前的，我想把你当作这首曲子的一分钟来演奏。
It's a little newer.
有点新了。
It's from early last year.
事情还得从去年初说起。
And for me, it's just one of those earworms that I'm, like, delighted to have in my ear all the time.
对我来说，它只是我很高兴一直在我耳朵里的耳虫之一。
The artist calls themselves Josephine Network, a self-described "shapeshifting yenta" in drag.
这位艺术家称自己为约瑟芬网络（Josephine Network），自称是一位变装“变形元太”。
It's a song about unburdening yourself, getting whatever it is off your chest through music.
这是一首关于卸下自己的负担，通过音乐将胸中的一切都释放出来的歌曲。
[MUSIC - "MUSIC IS EASY" BY JOSEPHINE NETWORK]
[音乐 - JOSEPHINE NETWORK 的“音乐很简单”]
Music is easy, it's a laugh.
音乐很简单，就是笑声。
Play with a melody, make it last.
演奏一段旋律，让它持续下去。
People are crazy.
人们都疯了。
They change every day.
他们每天都在变化。
What price would you pay to get your way?
为了达到你的目的，你愿意付出什么代价？
Oh, music is easy.
哦，音乐很容易。
Sing what you dream.
唱出你的梦想。
What would you feel?
你会有什么感觉？
Say what you mean, oh.
说一下你的意思哦。
Some make you happy.
有些让你快乐。
Some leave you scarred.
有些会让你伤痕累累。
Living is hard.
生活很艰难。
So play your guitar.
所以弹奏你的吉他吧。
Oh.
哦。
Isn't that something?
那不是东西吗？
I also wanted to play that for you because where they say "say what you mean," this next track on our mix tape is about saying explicitly, indisputably, what you mean with music-- although, the people in the story might argue that it is not always easy.
我也想为你播放这首歌，因为他们说“说出你的意思”，我们混音带上的下一首曲目是关于明确地、无可争议地表达你对音乐的意思——尽管故事中的人们可能会认为这并不总是那么容易。
Part of their job is hunting for exactly the right song for the occasion.
他们的部分工作是寻找适合该场合的歌曲。
So this is Track Three, The End of the Road.
这是第三轨，路的尽头。
And I think the only other thing you need to know is that my colleague, Chana Joffe Walt, is a big fan of those slideshows that schools put together at the end of the year for graduations and that kind of thing.
我认为你唯一需要知道的另一件事是，我的同事查纳·乔菲·沃尔特 (Chana Joffe Walt) 非常喜欢学校在年底为毕业典礼等制作的幻灯片。
Retrospective slideshows.
回顾幻灯片。
Loves them.
爱他们。
Here's Chana.
这是查娜。
I got a bonus end of the year slideshow last spring.
去年春天我得到了一份年终奖金幻灯片。
I wasn't expecting it because it was for my second grader, and he wasn't graduating anything.
我没想到这是因为这是给我二年级学生的，而他什么也没毕业。
Still, I was pleased when his teacher wrote the class to say she wanted to mark the end of the year, we should all join their morning meeting by Zoom, and there was going to be a slideshow.
尽管如此，当他的老师写信给全班同学说她想纪念这一年结束时，我还是很高兴，我们都应该通过 Zoom 参加他们的早会，并且会有幻灯片。
Like Sean said, I do love slideshows, and not in a normal way, I don't think.
就像肖恩说的那样，我确实喜欢幻灯片，而且不是以正常的方式，我不认为。
I always cry, every time.
我总是哭，每次。
And I'm really not a crier, but these stupid slideshows always work on me.
我真的不是一个爱哭的人，但这些愚蠢的幻灯片总是对我有用。
I will cry when it's not my own child graduating.
当不是我自己的孩子毕业时，我会哭。
I will cry even if I don't know a single kid in the slideshow.
即使我不认识幻灯片中的一个孩子，我也会哭。
For instance, here, I was at an elementary school that my kids do not go to.
例如，在这里，我在一所我的孩子不去的小学上学。
I was there reporting.
我当时就在现场报道。
It wouldn't be a graduation without a slideshow.
没有幻灯片就不算毕业典礼。
Enjoy.
享受。
And it takes 10 seconds.
并且需要10秒。
The pictures of the kids at work at their tables, out on their field trips in matching t-shirts.
孩子们在餐桌上工作、穿着配套 T 恤外出实地考察的照片。
I love when they do the photos from the beginning of the year and then the end, and you see the kids get teeth and long legs.
我喜欢他们从年初到年底拍摄照片，你会看到孩子们长出了牙齿和长腿。
In the front row, there's a grandpa wiping his eyes.
前排有一位爷爷在擦眼睛。
I was done.
我已经完成了。
One more, and I promise I'll get to the point here in a second.
再再说一遍，我保证马上就进入正题。
This one was the most embarrassing one for me.
这对我来说是最尴尬的一件事。
I went to this graduation at a different school I was reporting on.
我在我报道的另一所学校参加了这次毕业典礼。
Oh, my god.
我的天啊。
Do you guys know about this diabolical thing they now do at some high school graduations, where they give each kid a rose?
你们知道他们现在在一些高中毕业典礼上做的这种邪恶的事情吗，他们给每个孩子一朵玫瑰？
Each graduate will present a rose to one person who helped them on this journey.
每位毕业生都会向在这段旅程中帮助过他们的人赠送一朵玫瑰。
And then they asked them to bring it to someone in the audience who got them to this moment.
然后他们要求他们把它带给观众中的某个人，是他让他们走到了这一刻。
Then you see all these kids stumbling over their robes trying to find their mom in the audience, and you see mothers just absorb their daughters in hugs, both of them sobbing.
然后你会看到所有这些孩子在长袍上跌跌撞撞地试图在观众席中找到他们的妈妈，你会看到母亲们只是拥抱他们的女儿，两人都在哭泣。
I watched this one awkward 17-year-old boy walk up to his grandma, shove the rose toward her, and mumble "Thank you." And she grabbed him by the neck and pulled him in.
我看着这个笨拙的 17 岁男孩走到他的奶奶面前，把玫瑰推向她，并咕哝着“谢谢你”。然后她抓住了他的脖子，把他拉了进去。
Brutal.
残酷。
The woman from the main office in the school, she saw me and came over to pat my arm to tell me it would be OK.
学校总办公室的那位女士看到了我，走过来拍拍我的手臂，告诉我不会有事的。
Remember, I was not related to a single person graduating in this ceremony.
请记住，我与在这个仪式上毕业的任何人都没有关系。
Anyway, this year, I joined my child's class by Zoom, and I knew what to expect.
无论如何，今年我通过 Zoom 参加了孩子的课程，我知道会发生什么。
We all watched a very sweet slideshow the teacher put together, and I felt nothing.
我们都看了老师制作的非常甜蜜的幻灯片，但我没什么感觉。
Nothing.
没有什么。
We saw pictures of the kids reading in beanbag chairs, learning math, nothing.
我们看到孩子们在豆袋椅上读书、学习数学的照片，什么也没有。
Making volcanoes, nope.
制造火山，不。
I just felt sort of numb.
我只是觉得有点麻木。
My attention drifted, I looked at my phone, I looked at everyone in the boxes on Zoom.
我的注意力转移了，我看着我的手机，我看着 Zoom 上盒子里的每个人。
And a bunch of slides in, a kid on Zoom unmuted himself to say something random, like my dog smells.
然后播放了一堆幻灯片，一个孩子在 Zoom 上取消静音，随意说了一些话，比如我的狗的气味。
And just hearing the sound, I realized, oh, there's no music.
只是听到声音，我意识到，哦，没有音乐。
That's what's weird about this.
这就是奇怪的地方。
There's no song.
没有歌啊
There was no music in her slideshow?
她的幻灯片中没有音乐？
Oh no. That's unacceptable.
哦不。这是不可接受的。
I've never heard of that before.
我以前从未听说过。
Bess Massey is a school social worker, the maker of many slideshows and the most enthusiastic fan of them too when she's in the audience.
贝丝·马西 (Bess Massey) 是一名学校社会工作者，是许多幻灯片的制作者，当她在观众席上时，她也是幻灯片最热情的粉丝。
Bess cheers for every person in the slideshow, every activity.
贝丝为幻灯片中的每一个人、每一项活动欢呼。
She cheers for the days of the week.
她为一周中的每一天欢呼。
That's definitely why you didn't cry.
这绝对是你没有哭的原因。
100%.
100%。
You think that's why I didn't cry?
你以为这就是我没有哭的原因吗？
Yeah, I think it is why I didn't cry.
是的，我想这就是我没有哭的原因。
Yes, absolutely.
是的，绝对是。
Chana Joffe Walt I did talk to the teacher in my son's class.
Chana Joffe Walt 我确实和儿子班上的老师谈过。
She says she just forgot to put music in.
她说她只是忘了放音乐。
I called Bess, and I also called my friend Rachel Lissy.
我给贝丝打了电话，也给我的朋友雷切尔·莉西打了电话。
Rachel and Bess combined have probably put together dozens of slideshows over decades of working at summer camps, running after school programs, and graduations.
雷切尔和贝丝在数十年的夏令营工作、课后项目和毕业典礼中加起来可能制作了数十张幻灯片。
I asked them both, what does it mean that I didn't feel anything without the music?
我问他们，没有音乐我就没有任何感觉，这意味着什么？
Here's Rachel.
这是雷切尔。
Yeah, I don't-- I can't-- I mean, without music-- first of all, like I feel like even though, at this point, we wouldn't be having slideshows actually using, like, slides in, like, an old rotary, I still feel like if you're doing it without music, you can't help but hear, like, a clicking sound.
是的，我不——我不能——我的意思是，没有音乐——首先，我觉得即使在这一点上，我们不会真正使用幻灯片放映，就像幻灯片一样，就像一个旧的旋转，我仍然觉得如果你在没有音乐的情况下这样做，你会情不自禁地听到，比如，咔哒声。
Like, just this, like, sound of just emptiness.
就像，就这样，就像，空虚的声音。
[LAUGHING] Chana Joffe Walt No, that's exactly what this slideshow felt like.
[笑] Chana Joffe Walt 不，这正是这张幻灯片的感觉。
Yeah, it felt like time was moving so slowly, and the pictures didn't have any of their meaning, or at least not the meaning that I wanted.
是的，感觉时间过得很慢，而且这些照片没有任何意义，或者至少没有我想要的意义。
Yeah, it's interesting because it's like, there is a way in which the slideshows are celebrating the growth, like the passage of time, like we're a year older.
是的，这很有趣，因为幻灯片有一种方式来庆祝成长，就像时间的流逝，就像我们长大了一岁一样。
But with music, that feels like wondrous and full of possibility.
但对于音乐来说，这就感觉奇妙且充满可能性。
And without music, it feels just like the clicking of us all towards--
如果没有音乐，感觉就像我们所有人都在点击——
Yes, totally.
是的，完全可以。
Exactly.
确切地。
Like, I've aged in this slideshow, and I've watched aging, and I feel connected to my own fragile mortality.
就像，我在这张幻灯片中变老了，我目睹了变老，我感觉与自己脆弱的死亡息息相关。
Thank you, slideshow.
谢谢你，幻灯片。
The right song, it can tell your mind what to think about when you look at a bunch of pictures.
正确的歌曲，它可以告诉你当你看一堆图片时该想什么。
Of all the possible things you could be thinking about and feeling, the music tells you, no, no, no, this is the one to pick.
在你可能想到和感受到的所有可能的事情中，音乐告诉你，不，不，不，这是你要选择的。
That said, imagine the rose ceremony without music.
也就是说，想象一下没有音乐的玫瑰仪式。
It'd just be awkward, like watching a bunch of people stumble over chairs, trying to find their seats.
这会很尴尬，就像看着一群人在椅子上绊倒，试图找到自己的座位一样。
So I thought I'd try.
所以我想我会尝试一下。
Play the same slideshow, but just put a song under it.
播放相同的幻灯片，但只需在其下面放一首歌曲。
See if I felt the right things.
看看我的感受是否正确。
I was skeptical, though, because this slideshow had a lot of other things getting in the way.
不过，我对此表示怀疑，因为这张幻灯片还有很多其他因素阻碍。
For one, we weren't all together watching it in a crowded auditorium.
首先，我们并没有一起在拥挤的礼堂里观看比赛。
And honestly, mostly what I saw was not the pictures of the kids being cute.
老实说，我看到的大部分都不是孩子们可爱的照片。
I just noticed their masks, and the fact that their desks had plastic partitions.
我只是注意到他们的口罩，以及他们的桌子上有塑料隔板。
And in some pictures, they're wearing winter coats indoors because they have to have the windows open for ventilation.
在一些照片中，他们在室内穿着冬衣，因为他们必须打开窗户通风。
It just felt dystopian.
感觉很反乌托邦。
And I could not really imagine a slideshow on Zoom overcoming all that.
我真的无法想象 Zoom 上的幻灯片能够克服这一切。
No, no, I think it can work.
不，不，我认为它可以工作。
Chana Joffe Walt Bess, ever faithful in the medium, believed this was absolutely fixable.
查纳·乔夫·沃尔特·贝斯（Chana Joffe Walt Bess）一直忠实于媒体，相信这个问题绝对可以解决。
She and Rachel both gave me lots of suggestions of songs they thought could work, that I could play during the slideshow to feel the right things.
她和雷切尔都给了我很多他们认为可行的歌曲建议，我可以在幻灯片播放期间播放这些歌曲来感受正确的东西。
It's not complicated.
这并不复杂。
Bess says basically any song everyone knows can do the job.
贝丝说基本上任何人人都知道的歌曲都可以做到这一点。
Pop songs, high energy songs, those are the best.
流行歌曲、高能量歌曲，这些都是最好的。
Rachel thinks it's all about the lyrics.
雷切尔认为这一切都与歌词有关。
"I hope you had the time of your life." "As we go on we remember all the times we had together."
“我希望你度过了一生中最美好的时光。” “当我们继续前行时，我们会记得我们在一起的所有时光。”
But then there are also the songs like "End of the Road," "Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday," or like that Sarah McLaughlin song, "I Will Remember You," whatever.
但也有像“路的尽头”、“很难对昨天说再见”这样的歌曲，或者像莎拉·麦克劳克林的歌曲“我会记住你”之类的歌曲。
I forgot about "End of the Road." "End of the Road," that's--
我忘记了“路的尽头”。 《路的尽头》是——
Oh, yeah, "End of the Road." Chana Joffe Walt Yeah.
哦，是的，“路的尽头”。查纳·乔菲·沃尔特 是的。
Where it's just, like, hitting the nail right on the head.
就像击中要害一样。
[LAUGHING] It's just like, let's have some big feelings about something ending.
[笑] 就像，让我们对某件事的结束有一些强烈的感受。
Yeah, it's so on the nose.
是啊，太鼻子了。
Rachel This is a particular kind of art form.
雷切尔 这是一种特殊的艺术形式。
Yeah.
是的。
Rachel And it doesn't call for much subtlety.
雷切尔 这并不需要太多的微妙之处。
[MUSIC - "END OF THE ROAD" BY BOYZ II MEN]
[音乐 - BOYZ II MEN 的“END OF THE ROAD”]
(SINGING) Although we've come to the end of the road, still--
（唱）虽然我们已经走到了路的尽头，但是——
There is one song-- Bess and Rachel both mentioned it-- that was the perfect slideshow song in all the ways.
有一首歌曲——贝丝和瑞秋都提到过——从各方面来说，这都是一首完美的幻灯片歌曲。
It was poppy, everyone knew it, had the right energy, and the lyrics tell you exactly what to feel.
这是罂粟花，每个人都知道它，有正确的能量，歌词告诉你确切的感受。
The R Kelly song, "The World's Greatest," which for a number of reasons, you can no longer really do.
R Kelly 的歌曲“The World's Greatest”，由于多种原因，你再也无法真正做到这一点。
But it's a perfect, perfect slideshow song.
但这是一首完美的幻灯片歌曲。
That was in heavy rotation for many years.
多年来一直在频繁轮换。
Right?
正确的？
Like, this man who did these terrible things and should not be the hero of any child happened to have written, like, two of the greatest slideshow songs ever.
就像，这个做了这些可怕事情的人不应该成为任何孩子的英雄，却碰巧写了两首有史以来最伟大的幻灯片歌曲。
And I don't know why, but it hits me every time.
我不知道为什么，但每次都让我心潮澎湃。
Like, the idea-- like, I am a marching band, I'm a mountain.
就像，这个想法——就像，我是一支军乐队，我是一座山。
Something about that and seeing the faces of kids, "I believe I can fly, I believe I can touch the sky," that sense of just, like, each of us having this sort of bigness to us.
关于这一点，看到孩子们的脸，“我相信我能飞，我相信我能触摸天空”，那种感觉，就像我们每个人都有这样的伟大。
Obviously, I'm not going to play R Kelly under my second grader's slideshow.
显然，我不会在二年级学生的幻灯片中扮演 R Kelly。
But all the other songs Bess and Rachel recommended, they all just feel too sentimental.
但贝丝和瑞秋推荐的所有其他歌曲，都感觉太感伤了。
And I don't feel sentimental about the last year.
我对过去的一年并不感伤。
I don't think I want to feel sentimental about the last year of school.
我想我不想对学校的最后一年感到感伤。
Like "End of the Road"-- I [BLEEP] wish it was the end of the road.
就像“路的尽头”一样——我[哔]希望这是路的尽头。
But I did give it a try.
但我确实尝试过。
I sat with the slideshow and tried to put music under it.
我坐在幻灯片上，尝试在它下面放音乐。
Bess had suggested a Beatles song, and there is a Beatles song that I sing to my kid at bedtime.
贝丝建议唱一首披头士乐队的歌曲，我在睡前给我的孩子唱一首披头士乐队的歌曲。
It's sappy, has all the right lyrics, but it didn't work.
它很多汁，有所有正确的歌词，但它不起作用。
It's too much about him and me, not his class or his school.
这太多关于他和我，而不是他的班级或他的学校。
I did not believe this slideshow was salvageable.
我不相信这张幻灯片是可以挽救的。
There was one other kind of slideshow song that Bess talked about, one she'd seen work recently at her mother-in-law's 90th birthday party.
贝丝谈到了另一种幻灯片歌曲，这是她最近在婆婆 90 岁生日聚会上看到的一首作品。
And it didn't work because it was a song everyone knew or because the lyrics tell you how to feel.
它不起作用，因为这是一首每个人都知道的歌曲，或者因为歌词告诉你如何感受。
She said it works because it makes you think of a particular place.
她说这很有效，因为它会让你想起一个特定的地方。
She comes from like, this little town, and it's like Un Bolero-- you know, like just a traditional like, small town ballad that was sung about the town that she was from.
她来自这个小镇，这就像《Un Bolero》——你知道，就像一首传统的小镇民谣，是关于她来自的小镇而唱的。
I started to think about that and what song I associate with this specific group of people and this specific place.
我开始思考这一点，以及我将哪首歌与这个特定的人群和这个特定的地方联系起来。
There's really only one.
确实只有一个。
Every year since my oldest was in pre-K-- so, seven years-- at the end of the year assembly, the kids sing a song called "This Pretty Planet." I've never loved the song, and I did not miss it when a new music teacher came in recently and retired it.
自从我最大的孩子上学前班以来，每年七年，在年终集会上，孩子们都会唱一首名为“这个美丽的星球”的歌曲。我从来不喜欢这首歌，当最近一位新音乐老师进来并将其退休时，我也没有错过它。
But it did seem like it might work for this.
但看起来它确实可能适用于此。
And it did.
确实如此。
[MUSIC - "THIS PRETTY PLANET" BY TOM CHAPIN]
[音乐 - 汤姆·查平的《这个美丽的星球》]
(SINGING) This pretty planet spinning through space, your garden, your harbor, your holy place.
（唱歌）这个美丽的星球在太空、你的花园、你的港口、你的圣地中旋转。
I know.
我知道。
They do hand motions and everything.
他们会做手势什么的。
It actually felt like watching a slideshow I had never seen before.
实际上感觉就像在观看我以前从未见过的幻灯片一样。
The masks and the heaviness of the year were still there, but my brain didn't focus on them.
面具和当年的厚重还在，但我的大脑却没有集中在它们上面。
Instead, I saw a picture I had totally missed of my kid leading a group of friends in some sort of stomping game in the yard.
相反，我看到了一张我完全想念的照片，照片上我的孩子带领一群朋友在院子里进行某种踩踏游戏。
I saw a girl who couldn't read last year standing at the board with the pointer stick reading to everyone.
我看到一个去年不识字的女孩站在黑板前，拿着教鞭给大家朗读。
Mostly, I just saw the incredible resilience of all the people in that classroom and marveled at the teachers smiling and leading and so skillfully masking all the fear and chaos of the entire school year, so they could create something that looks like school.
大多数情况下，我只是看到教室里所有人令人难以置信的韧性，并惊叹于老师们的微笑和领导，他们如此巧妙地掩盖了整个学年的所有恐惧和混乱，这样他们就可以创造出看起来像学校的东西。
(SINGING) The morning light.
（唱）晨光。
Chana Joffe Walt It's not easy being with kids all the time.
Chana Joffe Walt 一直和孩子们在一起并不容易。
It's tedious and boring and hard, even when there's not a global pandemic.
即使没有全球大流行，这也是乏味、无聊和困难的。
But there are these flashes of bigness.
但也有一些巨大的闪光。
The slideshow takes all those flashes and bottles them up, so that you can look back over the past year for a few minutes-- ideally, no more than six-- with the right song playing, and actually see all the things you missed.
幻灯片将所有这些闪现并收起来，这样您就可以用几分钟（理想情况下不超过六分钟）播放正确的歌曲来回顾过去的一年，并真正看到您错过的所有事情。
Chana Joffe Walt is one of the producers of our show.
查纳·乔菲·沃尔特 (Chana Joffe Walt) 是我们节目的制片人之一。
Track Four, What's the Frequency, Kenneth?
第四轨，频率是多少，肯尼思？
So, so much musical discovery happens when we're kids, like you really find the songs that form your tastes when you're young, for the most part, or at least that's what happened with me.
所以，当我们还是孩子的时候，就会有很多音乐发现，就像你在年轻的时候真的找到了适合你口味的歌曲一样，在大多数情况下，或者至少这就是发生在我身上的事情。
This last story is about someone discovering music who is much older, a guy named Ken Eglin, who was actually living in a nursing home in Boston-- the Duplex Nursing Home, it was called.
最后一个故事是关于一个年纪大得多的人发现音乐的，一个叫肯·埃格林的人，他实际上住在波士顿的一家疗养院——人们称之为复式疗养院。
This was decades ago, by the way.
顺便说一句，这是几十年前的事了。
There were 45 residents in the facility, all men.
该设施内共有 45 名居民，全部为男性。
My friend David Greenberger was the activities director there in the late '70s and early '80s.
我的朋友大卫·格林伯格 (David Greenberger) 在 70 年代末和 80 年代初是那里的活动总监。
So I started the job the beginning of '79, and I'd met Ken probably immediately because he walked with a walker, and he would sit himself right by-- there was a desk for the activities director, and there was, like, a cabin with stuff in it.
所以我从 79 年初开始了这份工作，我可能很快就遇到了肯，因为他带着助行器走路，他自己就坐在旁边——那里有一张活动总监的桌子，还有一个小木屋，里面装着东西。
And it was in the corner of a room where they also would have lunch and stuff.
它位于一个房间的角落里，他们也在那里吃午餐和其他东西。
So Ken was always seated right by it, because he's like, hey, you, what are you doing?
所以肯总是坐在它旁边，因为他就像，嘿，你，你在做什么？
So whoever was an outsider was like, I got to know what's going on out there.
所以无论谁是局外人，我都会知道外面发生了什么。
He never saw himself as a guy in a nursing home.
他从不认为自己是疗养院里的一个人。
He's like, if it weren't for my leg, you know, and these spells that I get.
他就像，如果不是因为我的腿，你知道，以及我得到的这些咒语。
You know, so he--
你知道，所以他——
Pointing to his head, he got some sort of spells?
指着他的头，他有什么咒语吗？
He would have seizures, so he had had some kind of brain surgery, and you could see the scar on his head from that, so that affected how he could walk along.
他会癫痫发作，所以他做了某种脑部手术，你可以从中看到他头上的疤痕，所以这影响了他的行走能力。
And he just started talking to me.
他刚刚开始和我说话。
Ken was a talker.
肯是个健谈的人。
You wouldn't know it looking at him, but he had been a tap dancer in nightclubs back in the '30s, part of the jazz scene in Boston.
你不会从他身上看出这一点，但他在 30 年代曾是夜总会的踢踏舞者，是波士顿爵士乐界的一部分。
He said he had met jazz icons like Billie Holiday, Charlie Parker, and Lester Young, who he called Prez.
他说他见过比莉·哈乐黛、查理·帕克和莱斯特·杨（他称他们为普雷兹）等爵士乐偶像。
During a saxophone solo, he would be the guy in the audience yelling go, go, go, go, go.
在萨克斯管独奏期间，他会成为观众中大喊“走，走，走，走，走”的那个人。
Ken also drank a lot back in the day.
肯当天也喝了很多酒。
According to his intake papers, the surgery he'd had was for subdural hematoma, a leaking blood vessel in his brain, probably from falling down the stairs one time when he was drunk.
根据他的入院文件，他接受的手术是为了治疗硬膜下血肿，这是他大脑中的一种血管渗漏，可能是因为有一次他喝醉时从楼梯上摔下来造成的。
He also had diabetes, semiparalysis on his left side, and he had no family to speak of.
他还患有糖尿病，左侧半身瘫痪，而且没有家人可言。
His siblings and parents had all died.
他的兄弟姐妹和父母都去世了。
And even given all of that, he was still this upbeat, smiley charmer.
即使经历了这一切，他仍然是一个乐观、微笑的魅力者。
Said that if David didn't go ahead and marry his girlfriend, he was going to meet up with her on the corner with two bottles of John Jameson.
说如果大卫不跟他的女朋友结婚，他就会带着两瓶约翰·詹姆森在街角与她见面。
David was a denizen of his own very different kind of music scene.
大卫是他自己非常不同的音乐界的居民。
He played in a band in the heyday of Boston rock, a skinny, arty, 25-year-old white guy with a mustache.
他在波士顿摇滚鼎盛时期的一支乐队中演奏，是一位骨瘦如柴、充满艺术气息的 25 岁白人，留着小胡子。
Compared to Ken, who was Black, a World War II vet in his mid-60s, and for whom going to shows was well in the past.
与肯相比，肯是黑人，是一名 60 多岁的二战老兵，对他来说，去看演出已经是过去的事了。
Still, music was something they easily bonded over.
尽管如此，音乐还是他们很容易建立联系的东西。
Ken wanted to hear music.
肯想听音乐。
And specifically, wanted to know what was I listening to?
具体来说，想知道我在听什么？
There was an element in him where he was like, what's going on out there?
他内心有一种感觉，他会想，外面发生了什么事？
And he'd point out the window.
他会指着窗外。
I got to know what's going on out there.
我必须知道外面发生了什么。
And first, I just played him some stuff, and I think the first thing I played him was The Shaggs.
首先，我只是给他演奏了一些东西，我想我给他演奏的第一个东西是 The Shaggs。
Sort of the outsider art trio of sisters from New Hampshire.
有点像来自新罕布什尔州的局外人艺术三姐妹。
They sounded like this.
他们听起来是这样的。
[MUSIC - THE SHAGGS] Women (SINGING) All the rich people want what the poor people's got.
[音乐 - THE SHAGGS] 女人（唱歌）所有富人都想要穷人拥有的东西。
And the poor people want what the rich people's got.
穷人想要富人拥有的东西。
Ken had a lot to say about The Shaggs.
关于 Shaggs，肯有很多话要说。
We actually know exactly what his reaction was because David wrote it down, this whole rapid-fire soliloquy.
我们实际上确切地知道他的反应是什么，因为大卫写下了这整个连珠炮般的独白。
David read it to me.
大卫读给我听。
I couldn't dance to that, not regular dancing with a woman.
我不能跳舞，不能和女人一起跳舞。
I could soft shoe with that.
我可以用它来软鞋。
Any of this music you're playing for me, I could soft shoe with or buck and wing with it, or off-time with it.
你为我演奏的任何音乐，我都可以用软鞋或巴克和翼用它，或者在休息时间用它。
Personally myself, I could do it.
就我个人而言，我可以做到。
I don't know if everybody else could.
不知道其他人能不能
I know for a fact that Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire could dance to that.
我确实知道吉恩·凯利和弗雷德·阿斯泰尔可以随着这首歌跳舞。
And if they could, I damn sure could do it myself.
如果他们能做到的话，我自己肯定也能做到。
And I pray to God someday you can see me dance to that, that I'm well enough to do it.
我向上帝祈祷，有一天你能看到我跳舞，我的身体状况足以做到这一点。
Let me tell you something, Dave, any time anybody--
让我告诉你一件事，戴夫，任何时候任何人——
I just need to pause here for a second and talk about the reason David wrote down what Ken had to say about The Shaggs.
我只需要在这里暂停一下，谈谈大卫写下肯对沙格斯的评价的原因。
Early on in his job at the nursing home, David started a small magazine, a zine, called The Duplex Planet.
大卫在疗养院工作的早期，创办了一本小杂志，名为《双重星球》的杂志。
It was mainly quotes from the residents and snippets of their conversations that he thought were surprising, or funny, or poignant.
主要是居民的引言和他们谈话的片段，他认为这些内容令人惊讶，或有趣，或辛酸。
It was self-published, hundreds of subscribers, not thousands, but it had this devoted following.
它是自行出版的，有数百名订阅者，而不是数千名，但它拥有如此忠实的追随者。
It lasted decades after David left the nursing home.
大卫离开疗养院后，这种情况持续了几十年。
He interviewed old folks all over the country.
他采访了全国各地的老人。
There was a comic book version, live performances, CDs, everything.
有漫画版、现场表演、CD，应有尽有。
And Ken Eglin was one of the early standout regulars that readers look forward to hearing from every month.
肯·埃格林是读者每月都期待听到的早期杰出常客之一。
David created a special section for him, actually, a music review column called "Ken's Corner." He'd play Ken songs on a cassette Walkman, Ken would say what he thought of them, and David would sit and take notes.
大卫为他创建了一个特别的版块，实际上是一个音乐评论专栏，名为“肯的角落”。他会用盒式随身听播放肯的歌曲，肯会说出他对这些歌曲的看法，大卫会坐下来记笔记。
In the first official Ken's Corner column, Issue 29, he reviewed "Money Won't Buy You Happiness" by The Incredible Casuals.
在 Ken's Corner 的第一个官方专栏（第 29 期）中，他评论了 The Incredible Casuals 的“金钱不会买来幸福”。
He says it's crazy, it's really groovy-- or as you say today, it's really nice.
他说这很疯狂，这真的很棒——或者正如你今天所说的，这真的很好。
And I say--
我说——
[LAUGHING] Cracks me up.
[笑]让我笑疯了。
As you say today, "nice." As if we'd gotten rid of the word "crazy." It's like he was used to beatnik talk.
正如你今天所说，“很好”。就好像我们已经摆脱了“疯狂”这个词一样。就好像他已经习惯了垮掉派的谈话一样。
You guys don't do that anymore, right?
你们不再这样做了，对吧？
But I say, it's slang, it's groovy.
但我说，这是俚语，这是时髦的。
It had a beat, and the beat was beautiful.
它有一个节拍，而且这个节拍很美。
I like it.
我喜欢它。
I like what I hear.
我喜欢我听到的。
Give them a chance.
给他们一个机会。
They'll be up there.
他们会在那里。
These kids can go up.
这些孩子可以上去。
They can go.
他们可以走了。
There's no stopping them now.
现在已经没有办法阻止他们了。
If they stop, I'll tell them they're fools.
如果他们停下来，我会告诉他们他们是傻瓜。
There's that old saying now, you probably never heard it.
现在有句老话，你可能没有听说过。
Peg Leg Bates, he said, don't stop right there.
他说，“木腿贝茨”并没有就此止步。
Keep going.
继续前进。
[MUSIC - "MONEY WON'T BUY YOU HAPPINESS" BY THE INCREDIBLE CASUALS]
[音乐 - 由令人难以置信的休闲者创作的“金钱不会给你带来幸福”]
(SINGING) --don't force that.
（唱歌）——别强迫。
Money won't buy you happiness.
金钱不会给你带来幸福。
A lot of the reviews are like that, in a good way.
很多评论都是这样，很好。
There's this poetic repetition to his gushiness.
他的滔滔不绝充满了诗意的重复。
And he's so encouraging.
他非常鼓舞人心。
He'll be like, "those kids are going places," whether he's talking about The Incredible Casuals or a much more famous band, like The Clash.
他会说，“那些孩子要去的地方”，无论他谈论的是 The Incredible Casuals 还是更著名的乐队，比如 The Clash。
Quote, "Should I go, huh?
引用：“我应该走吗？
No, no, don't go.
不，不，别走。
Stay there, baby.
呆在那里，宝贝。
These boys are all right.
这些男孩都很好。
They're going to swing." Sometimes David would play an artist Ken had heard before, like Frank Sinatra or Elvis Presley.
他们会摇摆起来。”有时大卫会扮演肯以前听说过的艺术家，比如弗兰克·西纳特拉或埃尔维斯·普雷斯利。
But mostly, it was stuff that was all new to him.
但大多数情况下，这对他来说都是新鲜事。
And like those first-time-listening reaction videos that are on YouTube and TikTok now, it helped if you already knew the song he was talking about, because it allowed you to hear it through new ears, Ken's ears.
就像现在 YouTube 和 TikTok 上的那些第一次听的反应视频一样，如果你已经知道他正在谈论的歌曲，这会有所帮助，因为它可以让你通过新的耳朵（Ken 的耳朵）听到它。
There was a complete lack of knowledge of context.
完全缺乏对背景的了解。
He doesn't know anything about the history of the person, which can be freeing.
他对这个人的历史一无所知，这可以算是解脱。
He's just like, whoa, this thing's just rolling over me.
他就像，哇，这东西在我身上滚来滚去。
It's really about how you would talk with a friend while you're listening to music.
这实际上是关于您在听音乐时如何与朋友交谈。
He was my friend.
他是我的朋友。
It was never in a ironic way.
这从来都不是讽刺的方式。
I don't even like that whole thing that gets done sometimes like, let's see what Grandpa says about Kiss, or the Slits, or whatever, just some thing that you normally wouldn't be playing for Grandpa.
我什至不喜欢有时做的整件事，比如，让我们看看爷爷对《Kiss》或《Slits》有何评论，或者其他什么，只是一些你通常不会为爷爷演奏的东西。
Out of the mouths of babes, except for it's not babes, it's old people.
从辣妹嘴里说出来的，除了不是辣妹，就是老人了。
[LAUGHING] But a lot of times, he would relate himself to it.
[笑]但很多时候，他会将自己与此联系起来。
I mean, basically all these things, while they are music reviews, the whole thing together is a portrait of Ken, described in these funny little ways, like piecing together a puzzle, or the little bits of it are all coming together.
我的意思是，基本上所有这些事情，虽然它们是音乐评论，但整个事情在一起就是肯的肖像，以这些有趣的小方式描述，就像拼凑一个拼图，或者它的小部分都拼凑在一起。
That's what it really is.
事实就是如此。
David Greenberger Yeah.
大卫·格林伯格 是的。
Not just a portrait of his personality, which is palpable, but practically Ken's whole life is depicted in the reviews.
评论中不仅描绘了他显而易见的个性，而且几乎描述了肯的一生。
Reacting to "The Lord's Prayer" by the Beach Boys, he said, "I was a Methodist, and then when they sent me to school they switched me around and made me a Catholic.
在回应海滩男孩的《主祷文》时，他说：“我是一名卫理公会教徒，然后当他们送我去学校时，他们把我调换了位置，让我成为了天主教徒。
That was the Matron.
那是女护士长。
She didn't like me because I was too popular and too good a dancer, but I didn't care."
她不喜欢我，因为我太受欢迎，而且舞技太出色，但我不在乎。”
Ken was a rebel, crashing parties, no matter what floor they were on.
肯是一个叛逆者，他破坏聚会，无论他们在哪一层。
He talks about climbing the sides of houses to get in.
他谈到要爬到房子的侧面才能进去。
The words "raising hell" appear at least a couple of times.
“掀起地狱”这个词至少出现过几次。
But there were more placid memories too.
但也有更多平静的回忆。
He's down at the Charles River in a couple of the reviews, sleeping on a blanket.
在几篇评论中，他在查尔斯河边睡在毯子上。
Or he's at Magazine Beach, where he used to be a lifeguard.
或者他在杂志海滩，他曾经是那里的救生员。
This is from when he listened to Captain Beefheart's "Tropical Hot Dog Night."
这是他听Captain Beefheart 的“热带热狗之夜”时说的。
"I'm sitting there, laying on my blanket, and I got the beat in my body and my blood.
“我坐在那里，躺在毯子上，我的身体和血液都在跳动。
And I look over to one side of me, and there's a blonde girl with long hair way down her back, and she's got those tight bikinis on and shaking it up.
我看向自己的一侧，有一个金发女孩，长发垂到背后，她穿着紧身比基尼，正在抖抖。
She's tearing up the world.
她正在撕裂世界。
And you got to get up and get the same beat that she's got.
你必须站起来，跟上她的节奏。
And there you are--"
而你就在那里——”
Apparently, there were a lot of women in Ken's life.
显然，肯的生活中有很多女人。
He never married.
他从未结婚。
Seems like he rejected all of that.
看来他拒绝了这一切。
But he had girlfriends, and not always happily.
但他有女朋友，但并不总是幸福。
"It Was an Accident" by NRBQ got him talking about the time one woman told him she was pregnant with his baby, and he skipped town.
NRBQ 的《It Was an Accident》让他谈到了一次，一名妇女告诉他她怀了他的孩子，然后他就逃离了这座城市。
Turned out it wasn't his.
原来不是他的。
And sometimes all of the carousing and carrying on intersects with America's troubled history.
有时，所有的狂欢和进行都与美国麻烦不断的历史相交叉。
This is what he said in response to Bunky and Jake's, "If I Had A Dream." "If we played music like that back in the '30s, the police, the Irish cops, would raise hell with us.
这是他在回应邦基和杰克的“如果我有一个梦想”时所说的话。 “如果我们在 30 年代播放那样的音乐，警察、爱尔兰警察就会对我们大发雷霆。
Now what I'm trying to tell you, segregation was a bitch.
现在我想告诉你的是，种族隔离是个混蛋。
They couldn't stand me dancing with the white girls.
他们无法忍受我和白人女孩跳舞。
We'd be doing the Lindy Hop in Boston Common, going wild, smoking reefers-- we called them reefers back then.
我们会在波士顿公园跳林迪舞，疯狂地吸着冷藏箱——当时我们称它们为冷藏箱。
Now they call it marijuana.
现在他们称之为大麻。
We'd be dancing, and along comes a pounder, which is a cop, and he says all right now, break it up.
我们正在跳舞，突然来了一个警察，他说好吧，现在就结束吧。
Sometimes you run into a cop saying, hey, that's my cousin you're dancing with, boy."
有时你会遇到警察说，嘿，那是我的表弟，你正在和他跳舞，孩子。”
[MUSIC - "IF I HAD A DREAM" BY BUNKY AND JAKE]
[音乐 - BUNKY 和 JAKE 的《如果我有一个梦想》]
(SINGING) Don't ask me what do I mean if I had a dream.
（唱歌）不要问我如果我做了一个梦意味着什么。
To be clear, Ken did not like everything David played him.
需要明确的是，肯不喜欢大卫为他表演的一切。
Some of the reviews begin with "it was weird," or "I don't buy that." "Cat Food" by King Crimson was a hard no. And then this one review was such an intricate, multilayered, yet subtly murderous pan.
有些评论以“这很奇怪”或“我不相信”开头。 King Crimson 的“猫粮”很难被拒绝。然后这篇评论是如此复杂，多层次，但又微妙地充满杀气。
Oh, here.
哦，在这里。
Sean Cole David had to read it to me.
肖恩·科尔·大卫必须把它读给我听。
"This Diamond Ring" by Gary Lewis and the Playboys.
加里·刘易斯和花花公子乐队的《这枚钻石戒指》。
"That I wouldn't buy, but it sounds all right.
“我不会买，但听起来不错。
Some more horns in there would have helped a little bit, and change the tempo a little too.
那里再多一些喇叭会有一点帮助，也会改变一点节奏。
A better singer too, who could have come more clear with it.
也是一位更好的歌手，他本可以更清楚地表达这一点。
A lot of those words I couldn't get.
很多话我都听不懂。
You could change the lyrics in there too.
您也可以更改其中的歌词。
He was corn.
他是玉米。
He had a tempo in there, but I just couldn't get it.
他有节奏，但我就是听不懂。
They got to switch it around.
他们必须改变它。
I don't mean all the way around, just halfway."
我的意思不是一路，只是一半。”
So basically, he's now asked about adding horns, changing the lyrics, the tempo, and getting a different singer, but it's not totally bad.
所以基本上，他现在被要求添加喇叭，改变歌词，节奏，并换一个歌手，但这并不完全是坏事。
I mean, he's basically trying to be-- I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, you know.
我的意思是，他基本上是想——我不想伤害任何人的感情，你知道。
[MUSIC - "THIS DIAMOND RING" BY GARY LEWIS]
[音乐 - 加里·刘易斯的“这颗钻石戒指”]
I should also say, everyone at the nursing home knew about the zine.
我还应该说，疗养院的每个人都知道这本杂志。
The owner told David he was really proud of what he was doing, and David showed Ken the Ken's Corner column in The Duplex Planet, but Ken was completely uninterested.
店主告诉大卫，他对自己所做的事情感到非常自豪，大卫向肯展示了《复式星球》中的肯角专栏，但肯完全不感兴趣。
He was like, why do I need a souvenir of myself talking?
他说，为什么我需要自己说话的纪念品？
Did he know how many people were reading these?
他知道有多少人在读这些吗？
I don't know if it really registered.
不知道是不是真的注册了。
I would tell him stuff, but it's such an abstract thing.
我会告诉他一些事情，但这是一个非常抽象的事情。
All that mattered to him was he liked what we did.
对他来说最重要的是他喜欢我们所做的事情。
Meanwhile, Ken's following swelled well beyond the readership of The Duplex Planet.
与此同时，肯的追随者数量远远超出了《双相星球》的读者群。
Other publications started picking up the column.
其他出版物也开始关注该专栏。
A rock sheet in Boston called The Noise, two alternative papers out of the Northwest.
波士顿的一份摇滚报纸名为《噪音》，是西北地区的两份另类报纸。
Rounder Records had David submit some of Ken's reviews for their mail order catalog.
Rounder Records 让 David 提交了 Ken 对他们的邮购目录的一些评论。
Granted, David had a lot of music world connections from playing in his band, but he wasn't pushing for any of this exposure.
诚然，大卫通过在乐队中演奏而与音乐界建立了很多联系，但他并没有推动任何这种曝光。
And when Ken got to meet some of the musicians he reviewed, weirdly, it was Ken who was the celebrity in those interactions.
当肯见到他评论的一些音乐家时，奇怪的是，肯是这些互动中的名人。
The Del Fuegos got in touch asking if Ken could produce them.
德尔富戈夫妇联系了肯，询问肯是否可以生产它们。
A local Boston band called Pastiche dedicated a song to him, which he later reviewed.
波士顿当地一支名为 Pastiche 的乐队为他献了一首歌曲，他后来评论了这首歌。
He and David appeared on a local TV show in Rhode Island together.
他和大卫一起出现在罗德岛州的一个当地电视节目中。
David even read a couple of Ken's reviews on Late Night with Conan O'Brien.
大卫甚至读了几篇肯对《柯南·奥布莱恩深夜秀》的评论。
Whereas Ken had always said he wanted to know what was going on out in the world, now Ken was what was going on out in the world.
肯总是说他想知道世界上正在发生什么，而现在肯就是世界上正在发生的事情。
Chandler Travis of The Incredible Casuals told me he liked Ken because Ken talked like a musician.
The Incredible Casuals 的钱德勒·特拉维斯 (Chandler Travis) 告诉我，他喜欢肯，因为肯说话像个音乐家。
David brought Ken to one of their shows.
大卫带肯去看他们的一场演出。
And The Casuals played at David's wedding party, where Ken was a guest.
The Casuals 乐队在 David 的婚礼上演出，Ken 是其中的嘉宾。
There's a Super 8 film with just a snippet of Ken at the party on it.
有一部 Super 8 电影，里面只有肯在派对上的片段。
He's wearing a gray suit jacket and a white shirt with a wide collar, no tie.
他穿着一件灰色西装外套和一件宽领白衬衫，没有打领带。
You can't hear what Ken's saying over the crowd noise, but he's joking around, gesticulating.
在人群的噪音中你听不到肯在说什么，但他在开玩笑，打着手势。
People lean in and laugh.
人们倾身而笑。
He's a hit, and he knows it.
他很受欢迎，他知道这一点。
"I had a ball that night," he said, in his review of The Easy Beats "Friday On My Mind." "Then I had to come back here and who's waiting for me at the front door but the gorilla.
“那天晚上我玩得很开心，”他在评论 The Easy Beats 的《Friday On My Mind》时说道。 “然后我不得不回到这里，除了大猩猩之外，还有谁在前门等我。
And that wine hit me when I got out of the car."
当我下车时，那酒就击中了我。”
Another result of Ken's widening popularity, other people wanted in on the action.
肯越来越受欢迎的另一个结果是，其他人也想加入这一行动。
Started sending their own mixtapes for Ken to listen to.
开始发送他们自己的混音带供肯听。
Cassettes.
盒式磁带。
David still has them.
大卫仍然拥有它们。
All the songs are listed on the J-card or typed onto these little sheets of paper and folded up and shoved into the jewel case.
所有歌曲都列在 J 卡上，或者打印在这些小纸片上，然后折叠起来塞进珠宝盒。
One of the lists has a little note on it that says, "Dave, is it OK to put your own thing on here?
其中一份清单上有一个小注释，上面写着：“戴夫，可以把你自己的东西放在这里吗？
If not, skip over it." And this tape was from the guitarist Glenn Jones.
如果没有，请跳过它。”这盘磁带是吉他手格伦·琼斯的。
It's got Jelly Roll Morton on it and Elvis Presley and this tune.
里面有 Jelly Roll Morton 和 Elvis Presley 的歌曲。
(SINGING) Stranger, you're no stranger to me.
（唱）陌生人，你对我来说并不陌生。
"Stranger" by Lefty Frizzell.
左撇子弗里泽尔的《陌生人》。
"I was crying a little bit during it.
“期间我哭了一点。
Man, that's a Western song if there ever was.
伙计，如果有的话，那也是一首西方歌曲。
That is one.
那是一个。
'No Stranger To Me.' Oh, man.
“对我来说并不陌生。”哦，伙计。
That's what the cat said.
猫是这么说的。
Oh, man, take me back, take me right back to the Arizona desert.
哦，伙计，带我回去，带我回到亚利桑那州的沙漠。
That kind of music gets you.
那种音乐让你着迷。
So help me, it does.
所以帮助我吧，确实如此。
You've got the moon, and a sucker singing like this, and girls walking around in little slips that you can see right through.
你有月亮，有一个像这样唱歌的笨蛋，还有穿着你可以一眼看到的小裙子走来走去的女孩。
It's music that's like this that takes you, their voices so plain, that you can understand what they're saying.
正是这样的音乐吸引着你，他们的声音如此简单，你可以听懂他们在说什么。
To me, I know what they're singing.
对我来说，我知道他们在唱什么。
There's lyrics in there you may not know, but you will put them in there yourself.
里面有歌词你可能不知道，但你会自己把它们放在那里。
I've done that so many times, just sat there and listened to bands play and put the words in myself, the way I hear them.
我已经这样做过很多次了，只是坐在那里听乐队演奏，然后把歌词放进自己心里，就像我听到的那样。
It's easy to do if you got the music in your body.
如果你体内有音乐，这很容易做到。
Man, you're going to do it.
伙计，你会做到的。
That's from the heart."
这是发自内心的。”
(SINGING) Stranger, you're no stranger to me.
（唱）陌生人，你对我来说并不陌生。
In all, Ken dictated 692 music reviews, give or take, over just a couple of years.
短短几年内，Ken 总共口述了 692 篇音乐评论。
And then his health got worse.
然后他的健康状况变得更糟。
He developed cancer.
他患上了癌症。
He was transferred from The Duplex Nursing Home to a local VA Hospital.
他从复式疗养院转移到当地的退伍军人管理局医院。
David kept visiting him, encouraged other people, Ken's fans, to do the same.
大卫不断拜访他，鼓励其他人，肯的粉丝，也这样做。
He was at the VA.
他在退伍军人管理局。
It was clear he's going to be there for a while.
很明显他会在那里待一段时间。
He was-- maybe he knew he was never going to leave there.
他——也许他知道他永远不会离开那里。
Maybe he knew he was getting worse.
也许他知道自己的情况越来越糟。
He certainly wasn't going back to the nursing home.
他当然不会再回疗养院了。
And so, it was really just a request.
所以，这实际上只是一个请求。
He asked me, he said, those reviews, could you bring them in here for me?
他问我，他说，那些评论，你能帮我拿过来吗？
Not all of them or anything, but just a selection of them to have.
不是全部或任何东西，而只是其中的一部分。
He wanted them in a folder by his bed at the VA hospital because I think, well, he knew, I'm an old guy that's just being moved around.
他希望将它们放在退伍军人管理局医院床边的一个文件夹中，因为我想，好吧，他知道，我是一个刚刚被搬家的老人。
And so he would tell people, that's me.
所以他会告诉人们，那就是我。
You know, the nurses and stuff at the VA hospital.
你知道，退伍军人管理局医院的护士和工作人员。
He wanted some identity outside of just being a frail guy whose body's breaking down.
除了成为一个身体日渐衰弱的虚弱者之外，他还想要一些身份。
At the nursing home, he was Ken.
在疗养院，他是肯。
He had a level of respect.
他有一定程度的尊重。
But at the VA hospital, he wouldn't have had any of that.
但在退伍军人管理局医院，他不会经历这些。
It was like, you know, you'd get moved into the hallway.
就像，你知道，你会被搬到走廊里。
Now we got to do this for him.
现在我们必须为他做这件事。
We're sending you down to this room for whatever tests.
我们将把你送到这个房间进行任何测试。
And especially for somebody who doesn't really have family or an advocate.
尤其是对于那些没有家人或拥护者的人来说。
They were in touch with me, I got my name onto his chart.
他们与我联系，我把我的名字写到了他的图表上。
And I remember I got a call late at night.
我记得我在深夜接到了电话。
maybe it was 2:00 in the morning or something.
也许是凌晨 2:00 之类的。
And just, it was just, you know, just wanted to call and let you know that Ken died tonight.
只是，你知道，只是想打电话告诉你肯今晚去世了。
It was January 29, 1984.
那是 1984 年 1 月 29 日。
Ken was 68.
肯 68 岁。
A featured obituary ran in the Boston Sunday Globe, headlined "Kenneth Eglin, rock music critic, began as tap dancer in '30s." It didn't mention his seizures, or his diabetes, or that he used a walker toward the end of his life.
《波士顿星期日环球报》刊登了一篇专题讣告，标题是“摇滚音乐评论家肯尼思·埃格林 (Kenneth Eglin)，30 年代开始从事踢踏舞”。信中没有提到他的癫痫发作、糖尿病，也没有提到他在生命的最后阶段使用助行器。
It did quote from one of his reviews.
它确实引用了他的一篇评论。
"No matter what instrument you're playing," said one of the quotes, "You can't lose that first beat, or you're through."
“无论你演奏什么乐器，”其中一条引言说，“你不能失去第一拍，否则你就完蛋了。”
David, at the time, was 29.
大卫当时 29 岁。
He'd only been to one or two funerals at that point, other guys from the nursing home.
那时他只参加过一两次葬礼，其他人都来自疗养院。
He'd certainly never had to organize one before, but it was David who called the funeral home to work out the details of the wake.
他以前当然从来没有组织过一场守灵活动，但大卫给殡仪馆打电话，确定了守灵活动的细节。
Fans of Ken cycled in and out, paying their respects, some who had met him in the past and others who hadn't.
肯的粉丝骑着自行车进进出出，表达他们的敬意，其中一些人过去见过他，另一些人则没有见过。
David arranged for some of Ken's favorite music to be played-- Sun Ra, the Beach Boys, Jonathan Richman.
大卫安排了一些肯最喜欢的音乐——Sun Ra、Beach Boys、Jonathan Richman。
And he took care of this one other detail that felt important.
他还处理了另一个感觉很重要的细节。
I gave them the tape, the last mixtape that Ken never got to hear.
我给了他们磁带，这是肯从未听过的最后一张混音带。
Came too late.
来得太晚了。
There just wasn't a time.
只是没有时间。
You know, his condition was deteriorating.
要知道，他的病情正在恶化。
I would go and see him, but I wasn't trying to get headphones on him and have him listen to stuff.
我会去看他，但我并不想给他戴上耳机让他听东西。
So I then gave it to the funeral director, and I had him put it in the pocket of his jacket.
于是我把它交给了殡葬承办人，并让他把它放在夹克的口袋里。
So he was buried with it.
于是他就和它一起埋葬了。
He's buried with the tape.
他和胶带一起被埋葬了。
So I don't remember-- know what was on it.
所以我不记得——不知道上面写了什么。
No. That was meant to be a thing that I would have done with him.
不，那是我会和他一起做的事情。
It was for him to hear, and that wasn't possible.
这是给他听的，这是不可能的。
So--
所以——
Yeah.
是的。
What am I supposed to do with this?
我该怎么办？
There's this thing that happens when two friends sit and listen to music together a lot.
当两个朋友经常坐在一起听音乐时，就会发生这种情况。
It happened with my friend Paul and me when we were kids and he turned me onto some of the music I still listen to.
当我们还是孩子的时候，我和朋友保罗就发生过这样的事，他让我接触了一些我现在还在听的音乐。
And it happened with Ken and David.
这发生在肯和大卫身上。
Even when you go your separate ways, in whatever way that happens, it's like you take that person with you.
即使你们分道扬镳，无论以何种方式发生，就像你带着那个人一样。
You're forever informed by that friendship.
这种友谊永远让你受益匪浅。
Certain songs will always remind you of that person, even when they become associated with other people in your life.
某些歌曲总会让您想起那个人，即使它们与您生活中的其他人有联系。
And when you hear those songs, you think about other aspects of that friendship, of that person, that you really loved.
当你听到这些歌曲时，你会想到你真正爱过的友谊、那个人的其他方面。
Stuff that maybe didn't occur to you as much back when you were hanging out with them.
当你和他们一起出去玩时，你可能不会想到这些事情。
I asked David what Ken's last review was.
我问大卫肯最后的评论是什么。
He said he wasn't sure because he'd collect so many at once, and then mete them out in batches as he published the magazine.
他说他不确定，因为他会一次收集这么多，然后在出版杂志时分批分发。
But this is the last one in the last Ken's Corner column in Issue 55.
但这是第 55 期 Ken's Corner 专栏的最后一篇。
That's a song by Ted Hawkins.
这是泰德·霍金斯的歌曲。
His song "TWA." He couldn't get the name of it.
他的歌曲“TWA”。他无法得知它的名字。
I told him it was "TWA." He nodded and he said, well, "happiness" was in there, anyway.
我告诉他这是“环球航空公司”。他点点头，说，好吧，无论如何，“幸福”就在那里。
I know "happiness" was in there.
我知道“幸福”就在那里。
All right.
好的。
I liked it.
我喜欢它。
(SINGING) --laid out in the sky.
（唱歌）——躺在天空中。
Special steps were taken to please you, so you know they cares about you.
我们采取了特殊措施来取悦您，让您知道他们关心您。
Expert--
专家--
If you want to know more about David and his work, you can go to DavidGreenberger.com.
如果您想了解更多有关 David 和他的作品的信息，可以访问 DavidGreenberger.com。
and Berger is B-E-R-G-E-R.
伯杰是 B-E-R-G-E-R。
There's also a documentary film about him in progress called "Beyond The Duplex Planet."
还有一部关于他的纪录片正在制作中，名为“超越复式星球”。
Your true happiness means their success.
你真正的幸福意味着他们的成功。
Your true happiness means their success.
你真正的幸福意味着他们的成功。
Track Five, I Talk In Tunes.
第五轨，我用曲调说话。
So I was sitting with Chandler Travis of The Incredible Casuals, who I mentioned in that story.
所以我和《The Incredible Casuals》的钱德勒·特拉维斯坐在一起，我在那个故事中提到了他。
And he was just sort of thinking out loud at one point and knew what I was working on.
他只是在某一时刻大声思考并且知道我在做什么。
And he's like, I wonder if you guys might need a song, like a mixtape song for the end of that show that you're doing.
他说，我想知道你们是否需要一首歌，比如你们正在做的节目的结尾的混音带歌曲。
And I was like, yeah, why?
我当时想，是的，为什么？
You got one?
你有一个吗？
And he's like, no, but I could write one.
他说，不，但我可以写一个。
It's actually where the title of the episode comes from.
这实际上是剧集标题的由来。
Enjoy.
享受。
[MUSIC - "THIS IS JUST SOME SONGS" BY CHANDLER TRAVIS]
[音乐 - 钱德勒·特拉维斯的“这只是一些歌曲”]
(SINGING) This is just some songs.
（唱歌）这只是一些歌曲。
I hope you like songs.
我希望你喜欢歌曲。
In a way, to me, they're medicine.
在某种程度上，对我来说，它们是药物。
It's stupid that pop that made my IQ drop, I can't get them out of the head they're in.
那个流行音乐让我的智商下降了，这太愚蠢了，我无法将它们从他们的脑海中抹去。
This is just some songs.
这只是一些歌曲。
You probably hate songs, but I wanna know who I'm talking to.
你可能讨厌歌曲，但我想知道我在和谁说话。
And if you understand the sounds we make, you leave the ground.
如果你能理解我们发出的声音，你就离开了地面。
And fine, if you don't, well, never mind.
好吧，如果你不这样做，也没关系。
Checking in, nothing ventured, calling out, just stuff.
登记入住，没有冒险，打电话，只是一些事情。
I know you don't know me, and I don't really know you.
我知道你不认识我，我也不真正了解你。
Maybe we should not get married yet.
也许我们还不应该结婚。
But first, you need to hear the stuff I got to give you to show you where the treasure's buried at.
但首先，你需要听听我给你的信息，告诉你宝藏埋在哪里。
No big deal, a couple things to listen to, tell you how deep inside I am.
没什么大不了的，听几句话，告诉你我的内心有多深。
Maybe you can tell me why, when I try to communicate, you probably see another fancy dan.
也许你可以告诉我为什么，当我尝试交流时，你可能会看到另一个花哨的丹。
I wanna know who I'm talking to.
我想知道我在和谁说话。
And I talk in twos.
我三两两说话。
I talk in twos.
我两两说话。
I talk in twos.
我两两说话。
Uh-oh.
呃哦。
Uh-oh.
呃哦。
I made you a mixtape.
我给你做了一张混音带。
Today's program was produced by Nadia Reiman and myself.
今天的节目是由 Nadia Reiman 和我自己制作的。
The people who put our show together include Bim Adewunmi, Elna Baker, Susan Burton, Ben Calhoun, Dana Chivvis, Zoe Chace, Chana Joffe Walt, Seth Lind, Tobin Low, Miki Meek, Lina Misitzis, Stowe Nelson, Katherine Rae Mondo, Ari Saperstein, Laura Starcheski, Lilly Sullivan, Matt Tierney, and Chloe Weiner.
制作我们节目的人员包括 Bim Adewunmi、Elna Baker、Susan Burton、Ben Calhoun、Dana Chivvis、Zoe Chace、Chana Joffe Walt、Seth Lind、Tobin Low、Miki Meek、Lina Misitzis、Stowe Nelson、Katherine Rae Mondo、Ari Saperstein、Laura Starcheski、Lilly Sullivan、Matt Tierney 和 Chloe Weiner。
Our managing editor is Sarah Abdurrahman.
我们的总编辑是萨拉·阿卜杜拉赫曼 (Sarah Abdurrahman)。
Senior Editor is David Kestenbaum.
高级编辑是大卫·凯斯滕鲍姆。
Our executive editor is Emanuele Berry.
我们的执行编辑是 Emanuele Berry。
Fact checking by Andrea Lopez Cruzado, Rudy Lee, and Christopher Swetala.
Andrea Lopez Cruzado、Rudy Lee 和 Christopher Swetala 进行了事实核查。
Rikki Bates played drums and was the mix engineer on "I Talk In Tunes."
Rikki Bates 是鼓手，也是“I Talk In Tunes”的混音工程师。
Special thanks to Kelefa Sanneh, Hanif Abdurraqib, Neil Drumming, Mallory Zuckerman, Geoff Muldaur, Georgia Webber, Dan Brier, Beth Harrington, and The Josh Craig.
特别感谢 Kelefa Sanneh、Hanif Abdurraqib、Neil Drumming、Mallory Zuckerman、Geoff Muldaur、Georgia Webber、Dan Brier、Beth Harrington 和 Josh Craig。
Our website, thisamericanlife.org.
我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.
《美国生活》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。
Thanks also and always to our boss, Ira Glass.
也永远感谢我们的老板艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass)。
He got drunk on the set of Wheel of Fortune, passed out, and when he woke up, he saw Vanna White smiling and the completed puzzle.
他在《命运之轮》的片场喝醉了，昏倒了，当他醒来时，他看到了范纳·怀特的微笑和完成的拼图。
He was so confused.
他很困惑。
Did I-- did I tell her that it spelled that?
我有没有告诉她这个拼写是这个？
I'm Sean Cole.
我是肖恩·科尔。
Join us next week for more stories of This American Life.
下周加入我们，了解更多关于《美国生活》的故事。
[MUSIC - "I TALK IN TUNES"] Man (SINGING) I talk in tunes.
[音乐-“我用曲调说话”]伙计（唱歌）我用曲调说话。
I talk in tunes.
我说话有腔调。
Next week on the podcast of This American Life, one of our producers, Parker, grew up in Baltimore like I did.
下周，在《This American Life》的播客中，我们的制作人之一帕克和我一样在巴尔的摩长大。
And she explained to me that she and other Black kids of her generation were terrified going to this history museum called The Great Blacks in Wax.
她向我解释说，她和她这一代的其他黑人孩子都害怕去这个名为“伟大的黑人蜡像”的历史博物馆。
This week, Parker goes back.
本周，帕克回归。
Parker I'm sorry.
帕克 对不起。
I just got distracted by them trying to shove the guy in the oven.
我只是因为他们试图把那家伙推进烤箱而分心。
Sorry.
对不起。
What?
什么？
What?
什么？
Parker No, that's the Underground Railroad.
帕克：不，那是地下铁路。
That's a fake oven.
那是假烤箱。
Oh, OK.
哦，好吧。
Ira Glass What's Suitable for Children?
Ira Glass 什么适合儿童？
Next week on the podcast or on your local public radio station.
下周在播客或当地公共广播电台上播放。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。