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Prologue: Prologue Ira Glass The people on 118th Street in New York City are doing this thing that almost nobody in New York or around the country is doing.
序言：序言 Ira Glass 纽约市 118 街的人们正在做一件纽约或全国各地几乎没有人在做的事情。
And to figure out why-- what's it about their block-- I asked a longtime resident, Ivette Rodriguez, to tell me about the place.
为了弄清楚原因——他们的街区有什么特点——我请一位长期居民伊维特·罗德里格斯（Ivette Rodriguez）告诉我这个地方的情况。
And she told me that, when she and her mom moved to the block back in 1965-- this is the very neatly-kept 400 block of East 118th Street, with brick houses and low iron fences where the property line hits the sidewalk.
她告诉我，当她和她妈妈 1965 年搬到这个街区时，这里是东 118 街 400 号街区，维护得非常整洁，有砖房和低矮的铁栅栏，地界线与人行道相连。
Back when she moved here, the south side of the street was mostly Latino.
当她搬到这里时，街道南侧主要是拉丁裔。
Her side of the street, the north side, was mostly Italian.
她所在街道的北侧，主要是意大利人。
And we got this apartment because I told my mother, don't say a word.
我们得到这套公寓是因为我告诉我妈妈，不要说一句话。
Let me talk.
让我谈谈。
Because if they would have found out that we were Puerto Rican, they would not have rented to us.
因为如果他们发现我们是波多黎各人，他们就不会租给我们了。
So I just kept really quiet.
所以我一直保持安静。
She kept quiet.
她保持沉默。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah.
是的。
Ira Glass Her mom now owns the building.
艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass) 她的妈妈现在拥有这栋大楼。
These days, Ivette says most of the old Italians are gone, and the block is a mix of Latino, white, and Black.
伊维特说，如今，大多数老意大利人都走了，这个街区是拉丁裔、白人和黑人的混合体。
There are lots of retirees-- people who arrived decades ago, like Ivette.
有很多退休人员——几十年前来到这里的人，比如伊维特。
And younger people are moving in.
年轻人正在搬进来。
So we're talking, and I glance at the clock in her apartment and realize the time.
我们正在聊天，我看了一眼她公寓里的时钟，意识到了时间。
Yeah, no. We're just at two minutes before 7:00 now.
是的，不。现在距离 7:00 还差两分钟。
No, this is 10 minutes fast, just in case.
不，这是 10 分钟快，以防万一。
OK.
好的。
I was worried about the time because I was there to record something that starts at 7:00.
我很担心时间，因为我要录制 7:00 开始的东西。
You remember, early in the pandemic, how people would lean out their windows, or go out at 7:00 PM and cheer for the healthcare workers and other essential workers?
您还记得，在大流行初期，人们如何探出窗外，或在晚上 7:00 走出去，为医护人员和其他重要工作人员欢呼吗？
OK, most blocks around New York City, most blocks everywhere, stopped doing that long ago.
好吧，纽约市周围的大多数街区，世界各地的大多数街区，很久以前就不再这样做了。
But for some reason, not this block.
但由于某种原因，不是这个街区。
They stayed at it for over 400 days, everyday.
他们每天都在这儿呆了400多天。
OK.
好的。
Ivette Rodriguez --because I stay out there a long time.
Ivette Rodriguez——因为我在那里呆了很长时间。
Soon enough, at 7:00, we head outside, where some very prompt neighbors have already gathered with pans and noisemakers they use every night.
很快，7:00，我们走到外面，一些非常敏捷的邻居已经带着他们每晚使用的平底锅和噪音发生器聚集在一起。
[CHEERING] Want to guess at how many people it takes to make this much noise?
[欢呼] 想猜猜需要多少人才能发出这么大的声音吗？
OK, get a number in mind.
好吧，记住一个数字。
Eight.
八。
From windows in the apartment across the street, some kids wave flashlights.
一些孩子从街对面公寓的窗户里挥舞着手电筒。
Standing just inside her fence is one of the neighbors who comes out to watch this every night, Frances Mastrota, 83 years old.
就站在她的栅栏内的是一位每晚都出来观看这一表演的邻居，弗朗西斯·马斯特罗塔 (Frances Mastrota)，83 岁。
I came on this block in 1959 as a bride.
1959 年，我作为新娘来到这个街区。
I've been a widow since 1975.
自 1975 年以来我一直是寡妇。
And I have a granddaughter that is the class of 2019 of Harvard and now is in Chicago.
我有一个孙女，是哈佛大学 2019 届毕业生，现在在芝加哥。
After Frances introduced herself to me in such a deeply grandmotherly way, I actually had to ask a bunch of questions to learn that Frances is Dr. Frances Mastrota, retired oncology researcher, happy to tell me about her work.
在弗朗西斯以一种深深的祖母般的方式向我介绍自己之后，我实际上不得不问了很多问题才知道弗朗西斯是弗朗西斯·马斯特罗塔博士，一位退休的肿瘤学研究员，她很乐意向我介绍她的工作。
Then as we got better and better, we began to do HLA, Human Leukocyte Antigens, and then look at the genetic code.
然后随着我们的情况越来越好，我们开始做HLA，人类白细胞抗原，然后看遗传密码。
I'm an old bird.
我是一只老鸟。
In fact, this is one of the reasons that this block is still doing the 7:00 appreciation of healthcare workers.
其实这也是这个街区还在做医护人员7:00升值的原因之一。
A bunch of them on the block worked in healthcare, including Frances, and the neighbor who organized the nightly noise party, Vivian, and Ivette, and Ivette's husband.
街区里有一群人从事医疗保健工作，包括弗朗西斯、组织夜间噪音派对的邻居维维安、伊维特，以及伊维特的丈夫。
But there are bigger reasons, I think, that this has continued here every night with all the retirees on the block.
但我认为，还有更重要的原因，这种情况每天晚上都在继续，所有退休人员都在街区里。
Because we are a very special block, and we watch out for each other.
因为我们是一个非常特殊的群体，我们互相照顾。
If they don't see I come out at 7:00, they look for me.
如果他们没有看到我 7:00 出来，就会来找我。
So is one of the reasons why it's still going on because people are checking on each other?
那么，这是因为人们互相监督而导致这种情况仍在继续的原因之一吗？
If I don't come out, this lady comes, that lady comes, the people over there come.
如果我不出来，这位女士就来，那位女士就来，那边的人也来。
Someone will knock on your door to see how you are?
有人会敲你的门，看看你怎么样？
If I don't come out at 7:00, if I don't pick up my New York Times paper at 6:00 they look for me.
如果我 7:00 没有出来，如果我 6:00 没有拿到《纽约时报》的报纸，他们就会找我。
They know I'm alone.
他们知道我孤身一人。
Some nights, do you just feel tired, and you don't want to come out?
有些晚上，你是否只是觉得累，不想出来？
I have to.
我必须。
I have to.
我必须。
They will come here!
他们会来这里！
[CHUCKLES]
[笑声]
In fact, Ivette and Vivian, who organized all this, do use it to keep an eye out for their neighbors to make sure they're doing OK.
事实上，组织这一切的伊维特和维维安确实用它来监视邻居，以确保他们一切顺利。
And when things quieted down, Ivette ran through her little mental checklist of neighbors for me.
当一切平静下来后，艾维特为我核对了她心里的邻居清单。
I saw Mastrota.
我看到了马斯特罗塔。
I saw Severina.
我看到了塞维丽娜。
Paul came out from next door.
保罗从隔壁走了出来。
That's Sugar.
那是糖。
Beverly is here.
贝弗利来了。
Arlene is the one that I didn't see.
阿琳是我没看到的那个。
One neighbor who Ivette checks on every night is her next-door neighbor Josephine, who got COVID and went to the hospital for a while.
艾薇特每天晚上都会去拜访她的邻居约瑟芬，她感染了新冠病毒并去医院住了一段时间。
She's back at home now, but still bedridden, so she doesn't come outside.
她现在已经回到家了，但仍然卧床不起，所以没有出去。
Josephine waved to the window, so she's not angry at me today.
约瑟芬向窗户挥手，所以她今天没有生我的气。
[CHUCKLES]
[笑声]
And which window was that?
那是哪扇窗户？
Ivette Rodriguez This window right here.
Ivette Rodriguez 这个窗口就在这里。
It's hard to see.
很难看到。
I know because I know what I'm looking for.
我知道，因为我知道我在寻找什么。
But I can see her when she waves.
但当她挥手时我能看到她。
No, no. Ira Glass You're seeing her through the drape.
不，不。艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：你是透过窗帘看到她的。
[CHUCKLES] Ira Glass You really have to know the neighborhood for that.
[咯咯笑]艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass） 你真的必须了解这个社区。
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
是啊，是啊，是啊。
Ira Glass It's just starting to get dark.
艾拉·格拉斯：天刚刚开始黑。
A pretty night.
一个美好的夜晚。
And people hung out on the sidewalk, chatting in front of Monica Lehmann Gonzalez's house.
人们在莫妮卡·莱曼·冈萨雷斯家门前的人行道上闲逛，聊天。
She's a school teacher and the mother of three school kids.
她是一名学校老师，也是三个学生的母亲。
I think the beauty of this is that after all the banging is done, that there's conversations where we just linger, and talk, and kind of catch up.
我认为这样做的美妙之处在于，在所有的敲打结束之后，我们可以进行对话，停留、交谈，然后聊聊。
And I think that's so nice.
我认为这很好。
And what will be the sign that the pandemic has gone away enough that you can stop?
有什么迹象表明疫情已经消失到可以停止的程度了？
We have no idea.
我们不知道。
We really have no idea.
我们真的不知道。
I kind of don't want it to end, though.
但我有点不想让它结束。
I don't want it to end.
我不想让它结束。
Now I'm imagining, COVID is going to end, and you guys are just going to be coming out after COVID.
现在我在想象，新冠病毒即将结束，你们将在新冠病毒之后走出来。
I think that's a possibility.
我认为这是有可能的。
I think it's a possibility.
我认为这是有可能的。
It's the dailiness of the 7:00 get-together, the fact that it happens every single day.
这是 7:00 聚会的日常，事实上它每天都会发生。
That's what's made it mean so much to all of them.
这就是它对他们所有人来说意义重大的原因。
They made this part of the day a little life raft that they gathered on during this terrible, dangerous last year that made it like a daily prayer.
他们把这一天的这段时间变成了一个小救生筏，在去年这个可怕、危险的日子里，他们聚集在一起，让它变得像每天的祈祷。
I personally haven't prayed every day since I was a little boy.
我个人从小时候起就没有每天祈祷。
But somebody who does it as an adult told me that it's the fact that the words and rituals never change day to day that gives comfort.
但成年后这样做的人告诉我，事实上，言语和仪式从未日复一日地改变，这才给人安慰。
He has days when the prayers mean less to him and days when they mean a lot more.
有时祈祷对他来说意义不大，有时却意义重大。
And feeling that difference from day to day also tells him something.
每天感受到的差异也告诉了他一些事情。
Today, we're devoting our program to other things that we do whose dailiness is what is important about them and gives them meaning, helps us see things more clearly.
今天，我们将我们的计划投入到我们所做的其他事情上，这些事情的日常性对它们来说很重要，并赋予它们意义，帮助我们更清楚地看待事情。
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, "How Do You Get To Carnegie Hall?" So usually, if we do something every day, like exercise, or floss, or keep a diary, it's because we decide we're going to do it.
第一幕“你怎么去卡内基音乐厅？”因此，通常情况下，如果我们每天做某事，比如锻炼、使用牙线或写日记，那是因为我们决定要做这件事。
But other times, it's because the world has chosen for us.
但其他时候，这是因为世界为我们做出了选择。
This first story is a little bit of both of those.
第一个故事是这两个故事的一部分。
Ben Calhoun tells what happened.
本·卡尔霍恩讲述了发生的事情。
The way this story started, Lindsay was in the middle of changing her whole life around.
这个故事开始时，林赛正在改变她的一生。
She'd been living and working in Ireland, but she decided to take a leap.
她一直在爱尔兰生活和工作，但她决定迈出一步。
She was going to start a new chapter-- move to the other side of the world.
她要开始新的篇章——搬到世界的另一边。
I had actually just accepted a job, and I was meant to move to Australia in April.
实际上我刚刚接受了一份工作，本来打算在四月份搬到澳大利亚。
Oh, so you were getting ready to leave Dublin.
哦，原来你正准备离开都柏林。
You were on your way out the door.
你正要出门。
Totally.
完全。
I was actually almost all the way packed, truly ready to move.
事实上，我几乎已经收拾好了行李，真正准备好出发了。
And I was dating an Australian guy who had just moved to Australia.
我正在和一个刚搬到澳大利亚的澳大利亚人约会。
And I was meant to follow him a couple weeks later.
几周后我就打算跟着他。
And then the pandemic hit.
然后大流行来袭。
Lindsay couldn't leave, and she had to scramble to find a place to stay.
琳赛走不了，她得赶紧找地方落脚。
Eventually, she got an apartment on the south side of Dublin.
最终，她在都柏林南区找到了一套公寓。
It was actually this great place-- a one-bedroom in a really pretty row house.
这实际上是一个很棒的地方——一栋非常漂亮的排屋里的一间卧室。
It looks like it was pulled out of 101 Dalmatians or something.
看起来像是从 101 斑点狗之类的东西里拉出来的。
The place was cozy.
这个地方很舒适。
It had these pretty bay windows that looked out onto the street and a sunny little breakfast nook in the kitchen-- Not that things were going super great for Lindsay otherwise.
它有漂亮的凸窗，可以看到外面的街道，厨房里有一个阳光明媚的小早餐角——否则对林赛来说，事情并不是那么顺利。
She and that Australian guy broke up.
她和那个澳大利亚男人分手了。
And her move, her new job, new life-- all that got called off in slow motion.
她的搬家、新工作、新生活——所有这些都在慢动作中被取消。
And Lindsay, she was alone in lockdown.
而林赛，她独自一人被封锁。
She says this was actually one of the more depressing times she remembers.
她说这实际上是她记忆中最令人沮丧的时刻之一。
And it was in the middle of all of that that she started to hear music three or four times a day.
就在这期间，她开始每天听三四次音乐。
I would notice when I was-- I'd be doing the dishes, or I'd be doing something so mundane.
当我洗碗或者做一些平凡的事情时，我会注意到。
And then it would happen.
然后它就会发生。
Yeah.
是的。
The music was coming from nearby.
音乐是从附近传来的。
It was a saxophone, somebody practicing, pretty clearly a beginner.
那是萨克斯管，有人在练习，显然是个初学者。
But the most notable part of it was the song.
但其中最引人注目的部分是歌曲。
It was the same one everyday, again, and again, and again.
每天都是一样的，一次又一次，一次又一次。
It was the Pink Panther theme song.
这是粉红豹的主题曲。
What you're hearing is actually the sound of a video montage Lindsay put together.
您听到的实际上是 Lindsay 制作的视频蒙太奇的声音。
And the funny of this was not lost on her.
她并没有忽视这件事的有趣之处。
In the video, you notice the range of time stamps-- morning, afternoon, 10:30 at night, "The Pink Panther Theme" always in the background.
在视频中，您会注意到时间戳的范围——早上、下午、晚上 10:30，“粉红豹主题”始终在背景中。
You'll hear it as Lindsay eats at her kitchen table or leans against the door frame in her living room, holding back a smile, as she lays on her yoga mat or walks through her hall.
当林赛在厨房的桌子上吃饭时，或者当她躺在瑜伽垫上或穿过大厅时，她会在客厅的门框上强忍住微笑时听到它。
When he picked up the horn, and you first heard the notes come out, you were like, oh, I'm in for how long?
当他拿起喇叭时，你第一次听到音符出来时，你会想，哦，我要呆多久？
45 minutes to an hour?
45分钟到一个小时？
Wow.
哇。
Lindsay Or maybe-- oh, god, now I feel like, is that crazy?
Lindsay 或者也许——哦，上帝，现在我觉得，这疯了吗？
Maybe 20 to 30 minutes?
也许20到30分钟？
No, I mean-- Lindsay Maybe it was 20 to 30 minutes.
不，我是说—— Lindsay 也许是 20 到 30 分钟。
It felt, to me, like it was never ending.
对我来说，感觉就像永无止境。
It felt, to me, by the end, that I was just-- it was all day, all night.
对我来说，到最后，我感觉我只是——一整天，一整夜。
So it became a staple of your existence.
所以它成为你存在的主要内容。
Yeah, and it was to the point where I was trying to work during the day.
是的，我已经到了白天努力工作的地步。
I was trying to get things done.
我试图把事情做好。
And then I'd be in a meeting, and all my co-workers could hear.
然后我就在开会，我所有的同事都能听到。
Lindsay was now working remotely from this Dublin apartment.
林赛现在在都柏林的这套公寓里远程工作。
And all the Pink Panther-ing became a running joke for the people that she worked with.
所有“粉红豹”事件都成为了与她共事的人的笑柄。
It was so audible that Lindsay found herself constantly having to mute during video meetings.
声音如此之大，林赛发现自己在视频会议期间不得不经常静音。
Because mics on phones vary so much, I couldn't totally grasp how loud it was in person.
由于手机上的麦克风差异很大，我无法完全掌握它的声音有多大。
How loud was it?
声音有多大？
Oh, it sounded like it was in my house.
哦，听起来好像是在我家。
So when I posted this on Twitter, I got all kinds of responses.
所以当我在推特上发布这个消息时，我得到了各种各样的回应。
But people were wondering if I was playing a recording of it in my house.
但人们想知道我是否在家里播放了它的录音。
But it was so loud that it did sound like it was coming from inside the house.
但声音太大了，听起来确实是从屋子里传来的。
And I don't know if he knew how loud it was.
我不知道他是否知道声音有多大。
Lindsay says this went on for weeks and weeks, several times every day.
林赛说，这种情况持续了几周又几周，每天都会发生好几次。
Just to point out, most days, this was actually her only real-life human contact-- the saxophone coming through the walls.
只是要指出的是，大多数时候，这实际上是她在现实生活中唯一的人类接触——萨克斯管穿过墙壁。
The video montage that Lindsay made of all this, she eventually tweeted it, and it accumulated 5.4 million views.
Lindsay 将这一切制作成视频剪辑，她最终将其发布到推特上，该视频累积了 540 万次观看。
Just for scale, Miles Davis' Kind of Blue has sold 5 million copies.
仅就规模而言，迈尔斯·戴维斯的《Kind of Blue》已售出 500 万张。
The internet responded like the internet.
互联网的反应就像互联网一样。
Some of the 4.7 thousand comments-- "interesting how they got further from nailing it the longer they practiced." "Your neighbor's horrible playing should be a crime." "My condolences." "You'd think that the performance would at least improve over time." Someone chimes in, "Sounds like he's still shite, too." The insurance company Geico responded, "We feel your pain."
4700 条评论中的一些评论——“有趣的是，他们练习的时间越长，就越能做到这一点。” “你邻居的糟糕演奏应该构成犯罪。” “我的哀悼。” “你会认为性能至少会随着时间的推移而提高。”有人插话道：“看来他还是个废物。”保险公司 Geico 回应称：“我们感受到你的痛苦。”
For a long time, Lindsay didn't know who the Pink Panther-er was.
很长一段时间，琳赛都不知道粉红豹是谁。
So when she'd see people in the halls of her building, it was a little like, is that them?
所以当她在大楼的大厅里看到人们时，她有点想，是他们吗？
Wait, is that them?
等等，是他们吗？
Though eventually, her suspicions snagged on this one guy.
但最终，她的怀疑落在了这个人身上。
I would see this guy outside.
我会在外面看到这个人。
He would always do this thing where he would walk outside to drink his coffee in his pajamas.
他总是会穿着睡衣走到外面喝咖啡。
And I had a feeling it was him, but I wasn't sure.
我有一种感觉就是他，但我不确定。
For some reason, I feel like drinking coffee outside in your pajamas is kind of saxophone behavior.
出于某种原因，我觉得穿着睡衣在外面喝咖啡是一种吹萨克斯的行为。
Yeah, he had a vibe.
是的，他有一种气质。
Ben Calhoun It was a saxophone vibe.
本·卡尔霍恩 这是一种萨克斯风。
So come with me, if you will, to the other side of Lindsay's wall, to the other end of the saxophone rainbow, where there was a young man named Rajat.
所以，如果你愿意的话，跟我来吧，到林赛墙的另一边，到萨克斯管彩虹的另一端，那里有一个名叫拉贾特的年轻人。
At the time, he was 23.
当时，他23岁。
Like Lindsay, he was living and working in Ireland.
和林赛一样，他也在爱尔兰生活和工作。
As far as Rajat knew, his only audience was inside his apartment at this window where he would practice.
据拉贾特所知，他唯一的观众就在他公寓里练习的那个窗口。
I had a large window.
我有一扇大窗户。
And on the windowsill, I had three plants, a basil plant-- I just randomly had a potato that was going off, and I put it into a pot, and it started to grow.
窗台上，我种了三株植物，一株罗勒植物——我随机放了一颗即将发芽的土豆，我把它放进花盆里，它就开始生长。
So that was my potted potato plant.
这就是我的盆栽土豆。
And there was a coriander plant as well.
还有一种香菜植物。
So I would play to them.
所以我会为他们演奏。
That's my audience every day.
这就是我每天的观众。
And I still believe that that potted potato plant grew, and it took off.
我仍然相信盆栽马铃薯植物会生长，并且会起飞。
So I think I had something to do with it.
所以我认为我与这件事有关。
Rajat told me, for the record, he had no idea people could hear him like this.
拉贾特告诉我，郑重声明，他不知道人们能这样听到他的声音。
He said, some people in the building had remarked on how he was learning the saxophone.
他说，大楼里的一些人评论了他是如何学习萨克斯管的。
But he just figured, this building is old.
但他只是想，这栋楼很旧了。
It's got to have thick walls.
一定要有厚厚的墙。
Maybe they hear me faintly, off in the distance.
也许他们在远处隐约听到我的声音。
Lindsay did eventually come over at some point.
林赛最终在某个时候过来了。
She introduced herself, and she asked him to stop because she had a migraine.
她做了自我介绍，并要求他停下来，因为她有偏头痛。
Rajat says Lindsay was super nice.
拉贾特说林赛非常好。
Lindsay says Rajat was genuinely surprised and very sweet.
林赛说拉贾特真的很惊讶而且非常甜蜜。
For my fellow rom-com fans, I will note that they are not engaged.
对于我的浪漫喜剧迷，我会注意到他们没有订婚。
But the point is, Rajat actually had no idea how loud his saxophone playing was for her until he saw Lindsay's video later.
但关键是，拉贾特实际上并不知道他演奏的萨克斯管对她来说有多大，直到他后来看到林赛的视频。
When I saw the video, I was like, wow, that's really loud in the house.
当我看到视频时，我想，哇，房子里真的很吵。
I did not think it was that loud in her house.
我没想到她家里这么吵。
Because that was almost how loud it was for me when I was playing.
因为这几乎就是我演奏时的声音大小。
And so when I heard it for the first time from her perspective, I was like, yeah, I would have had a problem as well if I was there.
所以当我第一次从她的角度听到这个消息时，我想，是的，如果我在那里的话，我也会遇到问题。
[CHUCKLING] Ben Calhoun Rajat felt like, oh, shoot, I did not know I was bothering anyone.
[咯咯笑] 本·卡尔霍恩·拉贾特 (Ben Calhoun Rajat) 感觉，哦，天哪，我不知道我打扰了任何人。
He asked Lindsay what would be a good time to play, and he started practicing during his lunch hour, though an hour was barely enough, he told me.
他问林赛什么时候打球最好，他在午餐时间开始练习，但他告诉我，一个小时还不够。
Because what was unfolding on Rajat's side of the building was a love story, a budding romance with the alto saxophone that had started just a few months before this.
因为在拉贾特这边正在上演的是一个爱情故事，一段与中音萨克斯风萌芽的浪漫故事，就在几个月前开始了。
Turns out, before COVID hit, in December, Rajat was visiting India.
事实证明，在新冠疫情爆发之前，拉贾特去年 12 月正在访问印度。
He's from Bangalore.
他来自班加罗尔。
And he was visiting old friends.
他正在拜访老朋友。
One of these friends lives on a farm.
其中一位朋友住在农场。
Rajat says his place is just beautiful.
拉贾特说他的地方很漂亮。
So all these friends, they're there, and they're hanging out.
所以所有这些朋友都在那里，而且他们在一起闲逛。
And one of them picked up a saxophone, right?
其中一个拿起了萨克斯管，对吗？
And it was alto sax, this nice, cute little guy.
那是中音萨克斯风，这个可爱的小家伙。
And like, we were all just-- we were working.
就像，我们都在工作。
And he has a little wood shop.
他还有一家小木工店。
Then we were working.
然后我们就开始工作了。
And from the background, I hear someone playing the beginning riff of "Ain't No Sunshine." And I look out, and it's my friend.
从背景中，我听到有人在演奏“Ain't No Sunshine”的开头即兴重复段。我向外一看，那是我的朋友。
He's wearing slippers-- flip-flops and shorts-- sweating because the sun is out, even in December in India.
他穿着拖鞋——人字拖和短裤——因为太阳出来了而出汗，即使是在十二月的印度。
And it's like the Pied Piper.
这就像花衣魔笛手。
There are a few dogs walking behind him, and he's playing the tune.
他身后有几只狗走着，他正在演奏曲子。
And I was like, yo, that's amazing.
我当时想，哟，这太棒了。
What?
什么？
Rajat's friend was like, hey, you should try it.
Rajat 的朋友说，嘿，你应该尝试一下。
He was like, OK.
他说，好吧。
Almost immediately, he was able to get a sound out of the horn.
几乎立刻，他就能从喇叭中听到声音。
So his friend taught him the first line from "Ain't No Sunshine," and Rajat was off and running.
于是他的朋友教了他《Ain't No Sunshine》中的第一句台词，然后拉贾特就开始跑步了。
And I was just off by myself, playing out into the fields.
我独自一人到田野里玩耍。
Literally, I would stay for a good-- if not 45, at least 30 minutes or so, I was just constantly drilling, and drilling, and drilling, and drilling, and drilling it.
从字面上看，我会呆上很长一段时间——如果不是 45 分钟，至少 30 分钟左右，我只是不断地钻、钻、钻、钻、钻。
And that was the moment.
那就是那一刻。
I was getting into a flow.
我陷入了一种心流状态。
And I think, also, with the saxophone, because you keep blowing so much, there's some degree of-- and then you're like-- [GASPS] --and then you blow again.
我认为，对于萨克斯管，因为你一直吹得太多，所以会有某种程度的——然后你就像——[喘息]——然后你又吹了。
So there's a high degree of when you rapid breathe when you meditate.
所以当你冥想时呼吸急促的程度很高。
There's some degree of you getting kind of like, whoa, what's happening?
在某种程度上，你会觉得，哇，发生了什么事？
And so I was getting into this flow state with that.
于是我就进入了这种心流状态。
And I was like, wow, this is so good.
我当时想，哇，这太棒了。
[LAUGHTER] Ben Calhoun Getting that sound to come out of the saxophone right away, did you feel a little bit like, oh, I'm kind of a natural?
[笑声] Ben Calhoun 立即从萨克斯管中发出声音，你是否感觉有点像，哦，我有点天生？
When he got back to Ireland, he researched carefully.
当他回到爱尔兰后，他仔细地进行了研究。
And he bought a saxophone, an alto.
他还买了一把萨克斯管、一把中音号。
And then he set about learning to play it.
然后他开始学习演奏它。
He made this little notebook for himself.
他为自己做了这个小笔记本。
On the first page-- all caps-- he wrote, "CONSISTENCY IS KEY," meaning, practice everyday, a little bit, or a lot.
在第一页上——全部大写——他写道，“一致性是关键”，意思是，每天练习一点点，或者大量练习。
On the second page, he made a list of songs that he wanted to learn, including, of course, "The Pink Panther." Rajat told me this was the song he maybe most identified with the saxophone.
在第二页上，他列出了他想学习的歌曲列表，当然包括《粉红豹》。拉贾特告诉我，这可能是他最认同萨克斯风的歌曲。
And so he found a video tutorial of it online, where a guy walks through the song phrase by phrase.
于是他在网上找到了一个视频教程，其中一个人逐句地讲解了这首歌。
And so I would have drilled that video 80-plus times, just hard, just again, and again, and again, and again.
所以我会把那个视频演练 80 多次，非常努力，一遍又一遍，一遍又一遍。
And just keep going, keep going, keep going.
继续前进，继续前进，继续前进。
You're like, I'm going to get this into my muscle memory.
你会说，我要把它记入我的肌肉记忆中。
Yeah, exactly.
是的，完全正确。
And because it was something I really wanted to get good, because it sounded so cool, the final product at the end of that video, that I was like, I need to get this.
因为这是我真正想要做好的事情，因为它听起来很酷，视频结尾处的最终产品，我想，我需要得到这个。
And I was not going to move on to anything else until I got this done.
在完成这件事之前我不会继续做其他事情。
[LAUGHTER] So at one point in time, it was not in heavy rotation.
[笑声] 所以在某个时间点，它并没有进行剧烈的旋转。
It was the rotation, you know?
这是轮换，你知道吗？
[LAUGHTER] Yeah, but I was not getting tired of it.
[笑声] 是的，但我并没有厌倦。
It was entertaining.
这很有趣。
And it was so nice to see.
很高兴看到。
Because at the end of it as well, there's this beautiful riff.
因为在它的结尾，也有一段美丽的即兴重复段。
[VOCALIZING]
[发声]
And oh, that's so cool!
哦，那太酷了！
It's so funky when you get it right.
当你做对的时候，它是如此时髦。
So it would give me glimpses.
所以它会让我一瞥。
I'd do the first three phases horribly, but I'd say, OK, play to the end.
我会把前三个阶段做得很糟糕，但我会说，好吧，玩到最后。
And just the one time-- one time-- if I get the nice little riff properly, I'd get like, oh, this is going so well.
只有一次——一次——如果我能正确地听到那段漂亮的小重复段，我就会觉得，哦，这一切进展得这么顺利。
The thing I love about the situation is just how different the same song played day in and day out for months could feel in these two neighboring apartments by two people in their own little bubbles, like some kind of musical Rorschach test.
我喜欢这种情况的一点是，几个月来，两个人在自己的小泡泡中日复一日地播放同一首歌，在这两个相邻的公寓里会有多么不同的感觉，就像某种音乐罗夏墨迹测试。
For Lindsay, whether it was irritating or funny, it was an artifact of her confinement.
对于林赛来说，无论是令人恼火还是有趣，这都是她禁闭期间的产物。
But for Rajat, it was the exact opposite.
但对于拉贾特来说，情况恰恰相反。
It was an escape.
这是一种逃避。
Yeah, because there's only so much Netflix you can do until you start feeling sick of doing that.
是的，因为你能看的 Netflix 节目就这么多，直到你开始厌倦为止。
And yeah, so this was genuinely-- I got up.
是的，这确实是——我站了起来。
I was like, oh, I'm going to get to practice saxophone today.
我当时想，哦，我今天要练习萨克斯管。
That got me through, you know?
这让我度过了难关，你知道吗？
Looking back on this little chapter, for Lindsay's part, she told me, the main consequence of all this has been that, months after leaving that apartment, moving back to the United States, she's still hearing "The Pink Panther Theme" all the time.
回顾这一小章，对于林赛来说，她告诉我，这一切的主要后果是，在离开那间公寓、搬回美国几个月后，她仍然一直听到“粉红豹主题”。
It's just coming through the walls of her memory now, like a phantom limb, a pink phantom limb.
它现在正穿过她记忆的墙壁，就像一条幻肢，一条粉红色的幻肢。
All of this has also stuck with Rajat.
所有这一切也都困扰着拉贾特。
So believe it or not, but this 5 million view thing has scarred me to a certain extent.
所以不管你信不信，但这500万浏览量的事情在一定程度上给我留下了伤痕。
Because honestly, I've now moved to Italy, right?
因为说实话，我现在搬到了意大利，对吧？
I'm staying here.
我留在这里。
And I live in these apartments where you share a courtyard.
我住在这些公寓里，你们共用一个庭院。
So I have a balcony right here, and it opens out into this beautiful courtyard.
所以我这里有一个阳台，它通向这个美丽的庭院。
You can see the sky, birds on top.
你可以看到天空，鸟儿在上面。
Lovely.
迷人的。
But there's just everybody around here, and it echoes.
但这里只有每个人，而且有回声。
So I cannot play the saxophone here because, at least in Dublin, if someone had an issue, I could speak to them and try to diffuse the situation.
所以我不能在这里吹萨克斯管，因为至少在都柏林，如果有人遇到问题，我可以与他们交谈并尝试化解情况。
I cannot do that in Italian.
我无法用意大利语做到这一点。
[LAUGHS] I can't.
[笑]我不能。
So I actually found a spot in.
所以我实际上找到了一个位置。
You know the storage rooms that are super dank, in the cellar?
你知道地窖里的储藏室超级潮湿吗？
Everything is musty, where they keep the suitcases.
他们存放行李箱的地方一切都发霉了。
I managed to go there once and clear out some space.
我设法去那里一次并清理了一些空间。
And I was like, this will be my saxophone room.
我当时想，这将是我的萨克斯室。
Rajat says, though, it's just so out of the way, he hasn't done it.
拉贾特说，不过，这太偏僻了，他还没有这么做。
For Rajat, lockdowning in Dublin, he had really been in this bubble where, true or not, he was so convinced no one could hear him.
对于被封锁在都柏林的拉贾特来说，他确实处于这个泡沫之中，无论真实与否，他都坚信没有人能听到他的声音。
It was like he got to spend swaths of his day singing in the shower, dancing like no one was watching, loving "The Pink Panther Theme" like he'd never been hurt, if you know what I mean.
就好像他一天中的大部分时间都在淋浴中唱歌，跳舞，就像没有人在看一样，热爱“粉红豹主题”，就像他从未受过伤害一样，如果你明白我的意思的话。
That became his everyday.
这成了他的日常。
And since then, well, he's been a little unsure how to get back to that spot where he can play and feel quite so free.
从那时起，他就有点不确定如何回到那个他可以打球并感到如此自由的地方。
He's been chasing that feeling.
他一直在追求这种感觉。
Aren't we all?
我们不都是吗？
Ben Calhoun is one of the producers of our show.
本·卡尔霍恩是我们节目的制片人之一。
Act Two, "So Nice to Hear Your Voice." We now turn to somebody who had one daily routine that changed to a different daily routine.
第二幕，“很高兴听到你的声音。”现在，我们转向一个原本的日常生活变成了另一种日常生活的人。
And I don't want to get ahead of the story too much but just to say what a vast effect it had on her and how quickly those effects kicked in.
我不想过多谈论这个故事，只是想说明它对她产生了多么巨大的影响，以及这些影响产生的速度有多快。
The person with the daily routine in the story is Dee Brown.
故事中的日常人物是迪·布朗。
She moved into long-term care five years ago.
五年前，她转入长期护理中心。
And for four years, somebody would visit her everyday.
四年来，每天都会有人来看望她。
Family or her best friend would come nearly everyday.
家人或她最好的朋友几乎每天都会来。
They'd go out to eat, go on long drives into the mountains.
他们会出去吃饭，开长途车进山。
Then COVID hit.
然后新冠疫情袭来。
And the facilities she was in, following national guidelines, didn't allow anybody to have any visitors.
她所在的设施按照国家指导方针，不允许任何人接待任何访客。
Communal dining and group activities were also cancelled.
公共用餐和集体活动也被取消。
So Dee's family invented a new routine-- daily phone calls.
因此迪伊的家人发明了一种新的习惯——每天打电话。
Basically, they had made a schedule for everybody in the family to phone.
基本上，他们已经为家里的每个人制定了打电话的时间表。
And that way, Dee would get calls every single day.
这样，迪伊每天都会接到电话。
They would chat.
他们会聊天。
They would socialize.
他们会社交。
They would try to keep her spirits up, try to keep her from getting bored.
他们会尽力让她保持精神振奋，尽量不让她感到无聊。
Dee's granddaughter Cecilia Brown was one of the callers, phoning once a week or so.
迪伊的孙女塞西莉亚·布朗是打电话的人之一，大约每周打一次电话。
And she put together this story.
她把这个故事拼凑起来。
When my family started this, we figured naively, we'd do this for a few weeks, maybe a month, until things got back to normal.
当我的家人开始这样做时，我们天真地认为，我们会这样做几周，也许一个月，直到一切恢复正常。
And the calls were fun.
通话很有趣。
Hello?
你好？
Dee?
迪伊？
Can you hear me?
你能听到我吗？
[MUSIC PLAYING]
[音乐播放]
My first call, March 27, we were still getting used to the phone.
我第一次打电话是在 3 月 27 日，当时我们还在适应电话。
But Dee was pretty happy.
但迪伊却很高兴。
She'd start most calls by telling me about how nice her apartment was.
大多数电话一开始她都会告诉我她的公寓有多好。
She took her calls from her favorite lounge chair.
她坐在她最喜欢的躺椅上接听电话。
Hello?
你好？
Cecilia Brown Oh, that was weird.
塞西莉亚·布朗 噢，这很奇怪。
Cecilia, yeah, hello.
塞西莉亚，是的，你好。
How are you doing?
你好吗？
I'm good.
我很好。
I'm good.
我很好。
Dee Brown Yeah, what's up?
迪·布朗 是啊，怎么了？
Dee loved to say the unexpected thing, make fun of herself if it meant making other people laugh.
迪伊喜欢说一些意想不到的事情，如果这意味着让别人发笑的话，她就会取笑自己。
Oh, I have a real problem right now.
哦，我现在有一个真正的问题。
I got some underwear, the kind that stretches, only it's too tight.
我买了一些内衣，那种有弹力的，只是太紧了。
And I sit down and they go, ugh, my stomach.
我坐下来，他们就走了，呃，我的胃。
[LAUGHS] Those are big problems, right?
[笑]这些都是大问题，对吧？
Yeah, well, you just think of me as you're trying to pull your underwear down so it makes you feel very graceful.
是的，好吧，当你试图把内衣脱下来时，你就会想到我，这样会让你感觉非常优雅。
[LAUGHTER] Cecilia Brown Growing up, Dee wasn't what I thought of as a typical grandma.
[笑声]塞西莉亚·布朗 在成长过程中，迪伊并不是我心目中的典型祖母。
For one thing, we call her Dee, not grandma.
一方面，我们叫她迪伊，而不是奶奶。
She also dressed like an old Colorado hippie-- tons of turquoise jewelry and tie dye.
她的穿着也像科罗拉多州的老嬉皮士——大量的绿松石珠宝和扎染剂。
She always smelled like coffee, which she drank all day, even at midnight.
她身上总是有咖啡的味道，她整天都在喝咖啡，甚至在半夜也是如此。
She never did the normal grandma stuff with my sister and me, like take us out for ice cream or whatever.
她从来没有对我和我姐姐做过正常的祖母的事情，比如带我们出去吃冰淇淋什么的。
Dee was a talker, so that's what we'd do-- sit in the backyard and talk for hours.
迪伊很健谈，所以我们就这么做——坐在后院聊上几个小时。
It didn't matter how old you were.
你几岁并不重要。
And she was funny.
她很有趣。
Though my dad said she'd sometimes disguise something as a joke, just to get what she wanted.
尽管我爸爸说她有时会把一些事情伪装成笑话，只是为了得到她想要的东西。
In her 40's, after raising three kids and getting a divorce, she ended up in AA.
40 多岁时，在抚养了三个孩子并离婚后，她最终加入了 AA。
It became a huge part of her life, so much so she ended up sponsoring over 100 people.
这成为她生活的重要组成部分，以至于她最终赞助了 100 多人。
She'd still go to meetings a few times a week.
她仍然每周参加几次会议。
Now, of course, all that was gone.
当然，现在一切都消失了。
Yeah, it's been kind of a boring day because I haven't been able to go to the store and call my friend who has my car.
是的，这真是无聊的一天，因为我没能去商店给我有车的朋友打电话。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, I walk through the hallways, and everybody else is walking in the hallway, too, you know?
是的，我走过走廊，其他人也在走廊里行走，你知道吗？
Because they're just trying to get a little exercise.
因为他们只是想锻炼一下。
But this will pass.
但这会过去的。
And we'll be OK.
我们会没事的。
It's not going to kill me, sitting in here instead of going out and walking around.
坐在这里而不是出去走动不会要我的命。
I taped these calls with her permission.
在她的允许下，我对这些通话进行了录音。
Dee was going on 88.
迪伊的成绩是88。
I'd done the same thing with my other grandmother when she hit her late 80's.
当我的另一位祖母八十多岁的时候，我也对她做了同样的事情。
It was just something to capture a little bit of their lives on tape while I still had them.
这只是在我还拥有他们的时候用磁带捕捉他们生活的一点点。
Dee had dementia, but it was pretty mild.
迪伊患有痴呆症，但病情相当轻微。
She'd forget small things like where I lived, tell me stories she told me before.
她会忘记一些小事情，比如我住在哪里，给我讲她以前告诉我的故事。
But she was still pretty with it.
但她还是很漂亮。
This was another reason for the frequent calls.
这也是频繁打电话的另一个原因。
Isolation is really bad for anyone with dementia.
隔离对于痴呆症患者来说确实很糟糕。
You've probably heard people say the brain is like a muscle.
您可能听过人们说大脑就像肌肉。
You need to use it to maintain it.
你需要使用它来维护它。
With dementia, this is especially true.
对于痴呆症来说，尤其如此。
The more you use your mind, use words, the more those things stick with you.
你越多地运用你的头脑、使用语言，这些东西就越会粘在你身上。
But when you're isolated, you stop practicing.
但当你被孤立时，你就会停止练习。
Your mind starts to slip away.
你的思绪开始溜走。
And once it goes, it usually doesn't come back.
而且一旦离开，通常就不会再回来。
In those first calls, I didn't worry too much about that with Dee.
在第一次通话中，我并没有太担心迪伊的情况。
She had worked as a therapist for decades and would still kind of do informal therapy on everyone, including me.
她作为治疗师工作了几十年，仍然会对每个人进行非正式治疗，包括我。
Without my asking, she'd just start working out my options with me on the phone.
没有我的要求，她就开始在电话里和我一起讨论我的选择。
OK, what you do is, you get a big piece of paper, and you write down every one of them that you'd like to do.
好吧，你要做的就是，你拿一张大纸，写下你想做的每一个。
What do I want?
我想要什么？
What do I not want?
我不想要什么？
I'd just finished grad school and wasn't really sure what to do with my life.
我刚刚完成研究生学业，并不确定自己的人生该做什么。
See if you can find where you want to be and what you want to do when you grow up.
看看你是否能找到你长大后想去的地方和想做的事情。
I hate that one.
我讨厌那个。
Just like that.
就这样。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, I just have to just figure out what I want.
是的，我只需要弄清楚我想要什么。
Yeah, what do you want?
是啊，你想要什么？
You find out what you want to, and then you keep in touch.
你找出你想要的，然后保持联系。
Because I love talking to you.
因为我喜欢和你说话。
I love talking to you too.
我也喜欢和你说话。
When I called her the next week, April 5, she was still joking about things.
当我下周（4 月 5 日）给她打电话时，她还在开玩笑。
But 11 days after that, my third call with her, she seemed much worse.
但 11 天后，也就是我第三次给她打电话时，她的情况似乎更糟了。
She'd always liked her apartment before, but now I got the feeling it was starting to feel oppressive.
她以前一直很喜欢她的公寓，但现在我感觉它开始让人感到压抑。
Uh, I guess we-- we didn't get sunshine.
呃，我想我们——我们没有得到阳光。
Well, maybe a little.
嗯，也许有一点。
Oh, it's that little dribble through that little crack in the window.
哦，是从窗户的小裂缝里流出来的小滴水。
It's just a little tiny crack of light, not much to pay attention to.
这只是一点点细小的光裂缝，不需要太注意。
And my mouth is so dry.
而且我的嘴好干。
And the air is so dry.
而且空气又那么干燥。
And my whole body is going, ugh.
我的整个身体都在动，呃。
I'm just antsy, awful.
我只是烦躁，可怕。
I'm really just stuck here, it seems like.
看来我真的被困在这里了。
Two weeks after that call, Dee started needing round-the-clock care.
接到电话两周后，迪伊开始需要全天候护理。
And by May, it was clear to me parts of Dee were drifting away.
到了五月，我很清楚迪伊的某些部分正在逐渐消失。
Things she'd explained to me weeks ago no longer made any sense to her, like they were swirling together in her head, and I had to explain them back to her.
她几周前向我解释的事情对她来说不再有任何意义，就像它们在她的脑海中一起旋转一样，我不得不向她解释它们。
I'm trying to find out where my mind went sideways or something.
我试图找出我的思绪跑偏了什么的。
I know where I am.
我知道我在哪里。
It's just nothing anybody's saying is making any sense.
任何人说的话都没有任何意义。
And I can see some people walking along.
我可以看到一些人在走。
And they're going up and down.
而且它们会上下移动。
And I don't know who's what or why.
我不知道谁是什么，也不知道为什么。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, I mean, I think one of the things that is happening is that, because people are stuck in their apartments, they're walking up and down the hallway because it's the only place they can go to get exercise.
是的，我的意思是，我认为正在发生的事情之一是，因为人们被困在公寓里，他们在走廊上走来走去，因为这是他们唯一可以去锻炼的地方。
Yeah.
是的。
Cecilia Brown I think that's probably what's happening.
塞西莉亚·布朗 我认为这可能就是正在发生的事情。
That's why it seems so weird.
这就是为什么它看起来如此奇怪。
It does.
确实如此。
Everything feels weird.
一切都感觉很奇怪。
And I don't know.
我不知道。
I'm just going to try and get some orientation or something.
我只是想尝试一下获得一些方向或其他什么。
Hm.
嗯。
Dee Brown And I have a television thing up in front of me, but it doesn't make any sense.
迪·布朗：我面前有一台电视，但它没有任何意义。
Hm.
嗯。
What do you mean?
你是什么意思？
Like the things that people are saying doesn't make sense?
就像人们说的那些没有道理的事情一样？
Yeah, the people in there.
是的，里面的人。
And I don't know.
我不知道。
It just seems like I'm in a strange world.
我似乎身处一个陌生的世界。
But I will work on it.
但我会努力的。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah.
是的。
I will work on it-- that's so Dee, always sure there's a way to fix things if you just organized your thoughts correctly, even if the things she's trying to organize is her own dementia.
我会努力的——就是这样，迪伊，只要你正确地组织你的想法，总是有办法解决问题，即使她试图组织的事情是她自己的痴呆症。
I hated that she had to work this out alone, so I tried to work on it too.
我讨厌她必须独自解决这个问题，所以我也尝试着解决这个问题。
But I was kind of grasping at how to help.
但我有点想知道如何提供帮助。
OK, well, let's talk about something that might feel grounding.
好吧，我们来谈谈一些可能让人感觉接地气的事情。
Why don't we talk about when you were living in Kansas City?
我们为什么不谈谈你住在堪萨斯城的时候呢？
Oh, boy, that goes way back.
哦，孩子，这可以追溯到很久以前。
Cecilia Brown Yeah, will you tell me about your house in Kansas City?
塞西莉亚·布朗 是的，你能告诉我你在堪萨斯城的房子吗？
Oh, I don't know if I can remember much about it.
哦，我不知道我是否还记得很多。
Oh, god, I just really feel like I don't know what they're expecting of me here.
哦，天啊，我真的觉得我不知道他们对我在这里有什么期望。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I'm just off-center.
我只是偏离了中心。
That's all there is to it.
这就是全部内容了。
It was so hard to comfort her.
想要安慰她实在是太难了。
And it wasn't just her confusion.
这不仅仅是她的困惑。
It was also that, the worse she got, the more physically uncomfortable she got too.
而且，病情越严重，她的身体也就越难受。
There were basic things she needed that would have been so easy to do in person, but not over the phone.
她需要一些基本的东西，当面做很容易，但通过电话却不行。
My mouth is so dry that if I try and move my lips, it's just hurtful.
我的嘴太干了，如果我尝试动动嘴唇，就会很受伤。
Yeah.
是的。
What about water?
水呢？
Do you have some water you could have a sip of?
你有水可以喝吗？
I have some water right here.
我这里有一些水。
I've gotten a sip of water, but-- oh.
我喝了一口水，但是——哦。
Now I can't get any water through the straw.
现在我无法通过吸管取水。
Huh.
呵呵。
I can't get any water to come through this straw.
我无法通过这根吸管抽出水。
Oh, boy.
哦，男孩。
Are you sucking?
你吸吮吗？
Dee Brown Yeah, trying to.
迪·布朗 是的，正在努力。
Mm, mm!
嗯嗯！
[GULPING] Finally got a little water.
[咕噜咕噜]终于喝到一点水了。
Around this time, my family started talking about Dee's progression.
大约在这个时候，我的家人开始谈论迪伊的进展。
Even though it should have been obvious to me what was happening, I didn't want to believe it.
尽管发生的事情对我来说应该是显而易见的，但我不愿意相信。
When I talked to my sister, we'd make excuses for Dee, say she was just having a bad day, or that it was her medication, which was always changing.
当我和姐姐说话时，我们会为迪伊找借口，说她只是今天心情不好，或者是她的药物问题，总是在变化。
We wanted to believe the old Dee would come back.
我们想要相信老迪伊会回来。
My dad didn't think she would.
我爸爸不认为她会这么做。
By a few months into the pandemic, the toll of isolation on people with dementia was clear.
疫情爆发几个月后，痴呆症患者因孤立而付出的代价就显而易见了。
Medical examiners started listing social isolation related to COVID-19 restrictions as a cause of death for people in long-term care centers.
法医开始将与 COVID-19 限制相关的社会隔离列为长期护理中心人员的死亡原因。
Someone from the Alzheimer's Association told me people with dementia have been wandering more, that maybe they're looking for the people who no longer visit.
阿尔茨海默病协会的一位人士告诉我，患有痴呆症的人流浪得更多，也许他们正在寻找那些不再来的人。
Dee started doing this, too, opening people's doors in the middle of the night.
迪伊也开始这样做，在半夜打开人们的门。
June 2020, just three months into lockdown.
2020 年 6 月，封锁仅三个月。
Hello?
你好？
Can you hear me?
你能听到我吗？
Dee Brown And who am I talking to?
迪·布朗 我在跟谁说话？
Yeah, your granddaughter.
是的，你的孙女。
Dee Brown Uh-huh.
迪·布朗 嗯。
Oh, and she's-- she's off somewhere, right?
哦，她——她去了某个地方，对吗？
I thought a lot about whether it's OK to play these recordings on the radio.
我想了很多关于是否可以在收音机上播放这些录音的问题。
Talked about it with my family.
和我的家人谈论过这件事。
Back when she was with it, Dee knew I might make a story out of these calls, and knew she had dementia, and was game to record.
当她和它在一起时，迪伊知道我可能会用这些电话编一个故事，并且知道她患有痴呆症，并且愿意记录。
And I'm sure she'd want me to tell the true version of her story.
我确信她希望我讲述她故事的真实版本。
That's Dee.
那是迪伊。
By June, COVID death rates were starting to dip, and people were starting to meet up outside, emerge in small ways.
到了六月，新冠肺炎死亡率开始下降，人们开始在户外聚会，以小规模出现。
Dee, though, felt almost completely out of reach.
然而，迪伊却觉得自己几乎完全遥不可及。
What would you like to know that I might know?
你想知道什么是我可能知道的？
Oh, nothing.
哦，没什么。
I just wanted to talk to you.
我只是想和你谈谈。
What happened?
发生了什么？
Dee Brown Oh, I tried to swallow things and look at things, and I don't know what I'm doing.
Dee Brown 哦，我试图吞下东西并看着东西，但我不知道我在做什么。
Because everything's in the dark.
因为一切都在黑暗中。
Oh.
哦。
Dee Brown And it's all kind of pitch dark.
迪·布朗：周围一片漆黑。
I'm sorry.
对不起。
I'm having awful hard trouble talking.
我说话有困难。
Oh, it's OK.
哦，没关系。
It's OK.
没关系。
Why don't I call back later, OK?
我为什么不稍后再打来，好吗？
Well, I'm trying.
嗯，我正在努力。
Oh, I don't know what I'm doing here.
哦，我不知道我在这里做什么。
I absolutely don't know what I'm doing.
我完全不知道自己在做什么。
No, you don't sound silly.
不，你听起来并不傻。
You don't sound silly.
你听起来并不傻。
It sounds like you're having a tough day.
听起来你今天过得很艰难。
Ah.
啊。
Cecilia Brown So you can just put the phone down, and then it'll be over.
塞西莉亚·布朗：所以你可以放下电话，然后一切就结束了。
And I'll say goodbye, OK?
我会说再见，好吗？
I mean, I taste OK.
我的意思是，我的味道还不错。
OK, I'll put it down.
好的，我会把它放下。
OK, I love you.
好吧，我爱你。
Dee Brown Oh, it's on.
迪·布朗 哦，开始了。
It's sitting on the table.
它坐在桌子上。
Ow.
噢。
Ow.
噢。
Ow.
噢。
I hung up-- I was standing alone on the street-- and cried.
我挂断电话——我独自站在街上——哭了。
I decided to stop recording all my calls with Dee after this.
在此之后，我决定停止对我与迪伊的所有通话进行录音。
She was changing so quickly.
她的变化实在是太快了。
I just wasn't sure it felt right anymore.
我只是不确定这感觉是否合适了。
And I also, around this time, began to wonder if my calls were doing her any good at all, or if I was just calling to try to convince myself I was helping.
大约在这个时候，我也开始怀疑我的电话是否对她有任何好处，或者我打电话只是为了说服自己我正在帮助她。
I could tell from talking to her that my calls were making her more disoriented, more agitated.
从与她的谈话中我可以看出，我的电话让她更加迷失方向，更加焦躁。
Everyone in my family felt that.
我家里的每个人都这么觉得。
To be honest, the calls were also pretty painful.
说实话，打电话也很痛苦。
So I started calling less and then stopped altogether.
所以我开始减少打电话的次数，然后完全停止了。
The Alzheimer's Association found that 46,000 more people died from dementia this past year than on average in each of the last five years.
阿尔茨海默病协会发现，去年死于痴呆症的人数比过去五年的平均人数多 46,000 人。
They call these excess deaths, people who might not have died if it had been a normal year.
他们称这些死亡人数为正常年份可能不会死亡的人。
We could have predicted this.
我们本来可以预见到这一点。
We've known for years that isolation can lead people living with dementia to rapid deterioration and death.
多年来我们都知道，孤立会导致痴呆症患者迅速恶化和死亡。
And we isolated them anyway.
不管怎样，我们还是隔离了他们。
Another term that's been used is collateral deaths-- people who didn't die directly from COVID, but as a byproduct of it.
使用的另一个术语是附带死亡，即那些没有直接死于新冠肺炎的人，而是作为新冠肺炎的副产品而死亡的人。
I hate those terms-- excess death, collateral death, like these deaths somehow fall outside the bounds of the deaths we care about.
我讨厌这些术语——过度死亡、附带死亡，比如这些死亡不知何故超出了我们关心的死亡范围。
Eventually, in September, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services reversed their guidelines to allow in visitors in cases where people really needed them, for people who were having trouble eating or drinking and people in emotional distress, people like Dee.
最终，在 9 月份，医疗保险和医疗补助服务中心改变了他们的指导方针，允许在人们真正需要的情况下允许访客进入，比如饮食有困难的人以及情绪困扰的人，比如迪伊这样的人。
I think it would have helped her.
我想这会对她有帮助。
I think her dementia wouldn't have progressed so fast, that she wouldn't have gone from where she was in the spring to where she got to by summer in just three months if she weren't so isolated.
我想，如果她不是那么孤立的话，她的痴呆症就不会发展得这么快，也不会在短短三个月内从春天的状态变成夏天的状态。
My whole family thinks so.
我全家都这么认为。
These nurses think so, too.
这些护士也这么认为。
But that change in guidelines came too late for her.
但指导方针的改变对她来说来得太晚了。
Dee died just a few weeks before it, on August 18.
就在几周前，Dee 于 8 月 18 日去世。
She died alone.
她孤独地死去。
I ended up deciding to record one last call with Dee in late July, a couple of weeks before she died.
我最终决定在七月下旬，即她去世前几周，录制与迪伊的最后一次通话。
It was the last time we ever spoke.
这是我们最后一次说话。
Yeah, OK.
是的，好的。
Dee Brown Yeah, and so what is it that you're trying to do?
Dee Brown：是的，那你想做什么？
Oh, it's Cecilia, your granddaughter.
哦，这是塞西莉亚，你的孙女。
I'm calling to say hi.
我打电话来打个招呼。
Oh, oh, OK.
哦，哦，好的。
Okey-doke.
好吧，好吧。
Cecilia Brown It's good to hear you.
塞西莉亚·布朗 很高兴听到你的声音。
Hm?
嗯？
Dee Brown I have to sort of walk outside here and see what the temperature is.
迪·布朗（Dee Brown） 我必须到外面走走，看看温度是多少。
Yeah.
是的。
Cecilia Brown OK.
塞西莉亚·布朗 好的。
All right, well, I love you, Dee.
好吧，我爱你，迪伊。
Ira Glass Cecilia Brown.
艾拉·格拉斯·塞西莉亚·布朗。
She's a documentary filmmaker in Portland, Oregon.
她是俄勒冈州波特兰市的一名纪录片制片人。
Coming up, a vast theater with a daily show, but there's a catch.
即将到来的是一个每天都有演出的大型剧院，但有一个问题。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues
芝加哥公共广播电台一分钟后我们的节目仍在继续
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today on our show, "The Daily," stories about the things that we do every single day and how their "everydayness" is what's important about them and can reveal things that we might not notice otherwise.
今天，在我们的节目“每日”中，我们讲述了我们每天所做的事情，以及它们的“日常性”如何对它们来说很重要，并且可以揭示我们可能不会注意到的事情。
We have arrived at Act Three of our program.
我们已经到了我们计划的第三幕了。
Act Three, "It Had to be YouTube."
第三幕，“必须是 YouTube。”
So Johnny Dark is somebody with a very specific, very unusual, labor intensive practice that he does everyday, more or less.
所以约翰尼·达克（Johnny Dark）是一个每天或多或少都有一种非常特殊、非常不寻常、劳动密集型实践的人。
Each day, he shoots and posts a video on YouTube.
他每天都会拍摄一段视频并将其发布到 YouTube 上。
Kelefa Sanneh writes a lot about music and about other things for The New Yorker and watched a bunch of them.
Kelefa Sanneh 为《纽约客》撰写了很多有关音乐和其他事物的文章，并观看了其中的很多内容。
The first thing I noticed about Johnny Dark's YouTube page is that it goes on forever, an endless scrolling grid of thumbnail images, the same face, row after row, an older guy with an unnaturally brown pompadour.
关于约翰尼·达克 (Johnny Dark) 的 YouTube 页面，我注意到的第一件事是它永远不会消失，缩略图的无尽滚动网格，同一张脸，一行又一行，一个年长的家伙，有着不自然的棕色蓬巴杜发型。
There are hundreds and hundreds of videos, going back more than five years.
有成百上千的视频，可以追溯到五年多前。
Each one is Johnny Dark singing a song.
每个人都是约翰尼·达克（Johnny Dark）唱一首歌。
And for all that work, all that music, there's no one watching.
所有这些工作、所有音乐，都没有人在观看。
You can see it in the view counts-- 10 views, 23 views, seven views.
您可以在观看次数中看到它——10 次观看、23 次观看、7 次观看。
I almost felt guilty clicking on them, like, by increasing the numbers, I was spoiling this pristine place, leaving footprints in practically unfootprinted terrain.
点击它们我几乎感到内疚，因为增加了数字，我破坏了这个原始的地方，在几乎没有足迹的地形上留下了足迹。
I only ended up there because an old friend of Johnny's told me about it.
我之所以来到那里只是因为约翰尼的一位老朋友告诉我这件事。
He knew I had a taste for stubborn visionaries, for bodies of work that defy easy explanation.
他知道我喜欢固执的梦想家，喜欢那些难以简单解释的作品。
There's a simple formula to each video.
每个视频都有一个简单的公式。
Johnny Dark is all by himself, no instruments, nothing to sing along with, looking into the camera, dressed in a tuxedo, smiling, as if he were working a casino or a cruise ship, except he's standing in what might be a living room, though it might also be an antique shop.
约翰尼·达克（Johnny Dark）独自一人，没有乐器，没有什么可以伴奏的，他看着镜头，穿着燕尾服，面带微笑，仿佛他在赌场或游轮上工作，只不过他站在的地方可能是客厅，尽管它也可能是一家古董店。
It's full of framed pictures and little statues.
里面满是镶框的照片和小雕像。
Often he's singing a classic, maybe a Sinatra song.
他经常唱一首经典歌曲，也许是西纳特拉的歌曲。
(SINGING) I've got the world on a string, sitting on a rainbow.
（唱）我把世界拴在一根绳子上，坐在彩虹上。
I've got the string around my finger.
我的手指上缠着绳子。
What a world.
真是一个世界啊。
What a life.
多么美好的生活啊。
I'm in love.
我恋爱了。
Sometimes he'll do something that swings, like "Mack the Knife," but it's a lot of ballads.
有时他会做一些摇摆不定的事情，比如“Mack the Knife”，但里面有很多民谣。
Hank Williams.
汉克·威廉姆斯。
(SINGING) Did you hear that lonesome whippoorwill?
（唱歌）你听到那只孤独的威普尔的声音了吗？
(SINGING) Why do birds suddenly appear--
（唱）为何突然出现鸟儿——
In the most recent videos, he's not wearing a tuxedo anymore.
在最近的视频中，他不再穿着燕尾服。
It's even more surreal.
这更加超现实。
Now he's tightly framed in a shadowy room, a floating head singing into a mirror, still smiling, but now his smile seems kind of intense.
现在他被紧紧地包围在一个阴暗的房间里，一个漂浮的头对着镜子唱歌，仍然微笑着，但现在他的微笑似乎有点强烈。
And he's dressed in dark colors, often black.
他穿着深色衣服，通常是黑色。
You can see his hands in black gloves, holding the iPhone that's recording the video.
你可以看到他的双手戴着黑色手套，拿着正在录制视频的 iPhone。
The scene looks less like a cruise ship and more like a seance, which makes the song sound that much spookier, especially the sad ones.
这个场景看起来不太像一艘游轮，而更像是一场降神会，这使得这首歌听起来更加恐怖，尤其是悲伤的歌曲。
(SINGING) If a picture paints a thousand words, then why can't I paint you?
（唱）如果一幅画画出一千个字，那我为什么不能画出你？
The whole project seemed obsessive and haunted, as if some club had shut down in the 1970s, but the performance had kept going.
整个项目看起来令人着迷且阴森恐怖，就好像某个俱乐部在 20 世纪 70 年代关闭了一样，但表演仍在继续。
Who was this for?
这是给谁的？
Why do this?
为什么要这样做？
Why wake up every morning, get dressed, do your hair, and send another video out into the world, out into the void?
为什么每天早上醒来，穿好衣服，梳理头发，然后再向世界发送另一个视频，向虚空发送？
So I called him up.
所以我给他打电话。
And I was nervous, to be honest.
老实说，我很紧张。
The videos seemed so compulsive, they made me wonder about his state of mind.
这些视频看起来很强迫性，让我想知道他的精神状态。
But he was friendly, happy to explain.
但他很友善，乐于解释。
What is that room that you're in, in those videos?
那些视频中你所在的房间是什么？
OK.
好的。
And there's all these statues and things.
还有所有这些雕像和东西。
Yeah, statues and stuff.
是的，雕像之类的。
That's sort of what I like, you know?
这就是我喜欢的，你知道吗？
Nothing is real expensive.
没有什么是真正昂贵的。
It looks expensive.
看起来很贵。
Johnny Dark Yeah, it does.
约翰尼·达克 是的，确实如此。
It does.
确实如此。
I always modeled my place after Buckingham Palace.
我总是按照白金汉宫来建造我的住所。
Yeah, the tuxedo was just a way of giving respect to what I thought the older folks would like to see.
是的，燕尾服只是一种尊重我认为老年人希望看到的东西的方式。
It's like wearing a tuxedo, working in Las Vegas, when you're opening for Tom Jones.
这就像穿着燕尾服，在拉斯维加斯工作，为 Tom Jones 开场。
It was just a way of giving respect.
这只是表达尊重的一种方式。
Johnny Dark has never actually opened for Tom Jones, the hit-making hunk who sang "It's Not Unusual." But he has worked with lots of other legendary acts.
约翰尼·达克（Johnny Dark）从未真正为汤姆·琼斯（Tom Jones）开场，汤姆·琼斯是一位唱过《It's Not Unusual》的热门帅哥。但他还与许多其他传奇艺人合作过。
Long before he was singing on YouTube, Johnny Dark was performing for real audiences on stage and on TV, a busy actor and comedian.
早在 YouTube 上唱歌之前，约翰尼·达克 (Johnny Dark) 就已经在舞台和电视上为真正的观众表演，是一位忙碌的演员和喜剧演员。
And so watching those videos, it's kind of like being visited by the ghost of showbusiness past, specifically Johnny's showbusiness past.
所以观看这些视频，有点像被过去演艺界的幽灵拜访，特别是约翰尼的演艺界过去。
He kept dropping all these names, household names, many of which weren't quite as household as they used to be.
他不断地丢弃所有这些家喻户晓的名字，其中许多不再像以前那样家喻户晓。
Tony Bennett-- Kelefa Sanneh In the course of a two-hour conversation, he told me about shining Tony Bennett's shoes in Wildwood, New Jersey, being best friends with Fabian, the '50s heartthrob.
托尼·贝内特 (Tony Bennett) — 凯勒法·桑内 (Kelefa Sanneh) 在两个小时的谈话中，他向我讲述了托尼·贝内特 (Tony Bennett) 在新泽西州怀尔德伍德 (Wildwood) 擦鞋时与 50 年代万人迷法比安 (Fabian) 成为最好朋友的故事。
My best friend Fabian.
我最好的朋友法比安。
Kelefa Sanneh He toured with Ginger Rogers and also with the Righteous Brothers.
Kelefa Sanneh 他与 Ginger Rogers 以及 Righteous Brothers 一起巡演。
At one point, he found himself up against Michael Keaton.
有一次，他发现自己面临着迈克尔·基顿的挑战。
They were both competing for a spot on Donnie and Marie Osmond's variety show.
他们都在争夺唐尼和玛丽·奥斯蒙德综艺节目的席位。
And I got the Donnie and Marie show!
我还看到了唐尼和玛丽的表演！
And I don't know whatever happened to Michael Keaton.
我不知道迈克尔·基顿发生了什么事。
A spot on a variety show, that was kind of the perfect gig for a guy like Johnny Dark.
对于像约翰尼·达克这样的人来说，参加综艺节目是一个完美的演出。
He's an entertainer, which is the job that maybe doesn't even exist anymore.
他是一名艺人，而这份工作可能已经不复存在了。
It means you get up in front of an audience and do whatever it takes to keep them happy-- songs, jokes, skits, dancing, impressions.
这意味着你站在观众面前，尽一切努力让他们开心——歌曲、笑话、短剧、舞蹈、印象。
Here he is on TV in the 1970s.
这是 20 世纪 70 年代他出现在电视上的画面。
[APPLAUSE] Johnny Dark Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like you give me my impression of a rodeo auctioneer.
[掌声] Johnny Dark 女士们、先生们，我希望你们能告诉我我对牛仔竞技拍卖师的印象。
Imagine this guy coming home to his wife at night.
想象一下这个人晚上回家见他的妻子。
Hi, honey, how about a kiss?
嗨，亲爱的，来个吻怎么样？
Another kiss.
另一个吻。
Make that three kisses on the right cheek by the little lady with the checkered apron.
让系格子围裙的小女士在右脸颊上亲吻三下。
What's for dinner?
晚餐吃什么？
I said, what's for dinner?
我说，晚饭吃什么？
I hear hot dogs.
我听到热狗的声音
I hear hot dogs and beans.
我听到热狗和豆子的声音。
Do I hear baked beans or lima beans?
我听到的是烤豆还是利马豆？
I hear baked beans.
我听到烤豆子的声音。
Make that baked beans and butter.
制作烤豆和黄油。
Make that Boston baked beans and butter.
制作波士顿烤豆和黄油。
Do I hear bread?
我听到面包了吗？
I hear brown bread.
我听到黑面包。
But by this point, in the 1970s, entertainers in tuxedos were going extinct.
但到了 20 世纪 70 年代，穿燕尾服的艺人已经绝迹了。
And Johnny Dark had that old school style, even though his career really began in a club where a new sensibility was emerging-- the Comedy Store in LA.
约翰尼·达克（Johnny Dark）具有那种老派的风格，尽管他的职业生涯真正开始于一个正在兴起新情感的俱乐部——洛杉矶的喜剧商店。
The regulars there were not all purpose old school entertainers.
那里的常客并非都是老派艺人。
They were performers with a point of view, unpredictable stand-up comics like Richard Pryor, Robin Williams, Andy Kaufman, but also a young David Letterman and Jay Leno.
他们是有自己观点的表演者，是难以捉摸的单口喜剧演员，如理查德·普赖尔、罗宾·威廉姆斯、安迪·考夫曼，还有年轻的大卫·莱特曼和杰·雷诺。
Johnny Dark got a job there as an MC, introducing the comics.
约翰尼·达克在那里找到了一份主持人的工作，负责介绍漫画。
He'd open with a song.
他会以一首歌开场。
And eventually, he started telling jokes, too.
最终，他也开始讲笑话。
We were all part of one peer group.
我们都是同一个同龄群体的一员。
But we weren't all geniuses, you know?
但我们并不都是天才，你知道吗？
Robin Williams and people of that genre, how could I compete with those guys?
罗宾·威廉姆斯和这类人，我怎么能与那些人竞争呢？
They were geniuses.
他们是天才。
I mean, Robin Williams, I used to pick him up in front of Chase's to drive him out to the Newport Beach Laff Stop.
我的意思是，罗宾·威廉姆斯（Robin Williams），我曾经在蔡斯店前接他，然后开车送他去纽波特海滩拉夫站。
And I was the closing act.
我是闭幕式。
Well, he would get up and, in the middle, do 30, 40 minutes.
嗯，他会站起来，中间做 30、40 分钟。
It was killer stuff!
这是致命的东西！
I couldn't compete with that.
我无法与之竞争。
It's true.
这是真的。
I'm pretty sure you've heard of Robin Williams, and you've probably never heard of Johnny Dark.
我很确定您听说过罗宾·威廉姆斯，但您可能从未听说过约翰尼·达克。
But he built a successful career, had small roles on a bunch of popular sitcoms, made good money on the road, supported a family.
但他的事业很成功，在很多受欢迎的情景喜剧中扮演小角色，在路上赚了很多钱，养家糊口。
His most memorable role might be this one.
他最难忘的角色可能就是这个。
Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to Johnny, the world's oldest page, I think.
女士们先生们，请向约翰尼问好，我想他是世界上最古老的侍者。
In the 2000s, David Letterman pulled his old friend Johnny Dark into the spotlight for a series of guest appearances on The Late Show, giving Johnny a little bit of the fame and recognition he had always wanted.
2000 年代，大卫·莱特曼 (David Letterman) 将他的老朋友约翰尼·达克 (Johnny Dark) 拉到了聚光灯下，在《深夜秀》中客串了一系列节目，让约翰尼获得了他一直想要的一点名气和认可。
The bit was that he was the world's oldest CBS page, an intern, basically, who'd been killing time in the bowels of the Ed Sullivan Theater for 38 years.
关键是，他是世界上最年长的 CBS 页面，基本上是一名实习生，在埃德·沙利文剧院 (Ed Sullivan Theatre) 里消磨了 38 年时间。
The character was crappy and defiant.
这个角色蹩脚且目中无人。
He had no interest in the show and mainly wanted Letterman, the big-shot host, to leave him alone.
他对这个节目不感兴趣，主要是想让大牌主持人莱特曼别打扰他。
Oh, I'm sorry, Johnny, you can't-- you're not allowed to smoke in the theater.
哦，对不起，约翰尼，你不能——你不可以在剧院里吸烟。
I'm sorry.
对不起。
Well, remind me to bring that up next time you blow smoke up a celebrity's ass.
好吧，下次你在名人屁股上抽烟时提醒我提起这一点。
Before I talked to him, I sort of assumed that Johnny Dark was going to be a lot like that character, that he'd be bitter about his long and miscellaneous career, about never achieving real stardom, like maybe it had driven him crazy, and now he was sitting at home, compulsively making these videos every day, creating his own lonely, private Hollywood.
在我和他交谈之前，我有点假设约翰尼·达克（Johnny Dark）会很像那个角色，他会对自己漫长而杂乱的职业生涯感到痛苦，对从未成为真正的明星感到痛苦，就像这让他发疯一样，现在他坐在家里，每天强迫性地制作这些视频，创造他自己孤独、私人的好莱坞。
But he said it's not like that.
但他说事情不是这样的。
He told me over and over again in different ways that he wasn't bitter.
他用不同的方式一遍又一遍地告诉我他并不痛苦。
No, no, I was grateful.
不不不，我很感激。
I was thrilled to be with David.
我很高兴能和大卫在一起。
He told me he was glad to have had the chance to entertain so many people.
他告诉我，他很高兴有机会招待这么多人。
He said he was happy.
他说他很高兴。
He's 80 years old, living in LA in a house full of little statues, spending time with his grandchildren everyday, wandering around the park, cooking them dinner.
他已经 80 岁了，住在洛杉矶一栋满是小雕像的房子里，每天和孙子们在一起，在公园里闲逛，给他们做晚饭。
Making pizza for them.
为他们做披萨。
Kelefa Sanneh There was one moment, though, when he finally admitted that it has been frustrating sometimes.
不过，有那么一刻，他终于承认有时会令人沮丧。
I feel sort of a love-hate relationship with showbusiness in the fact that I've been close to so many big things that didn't come true.
我对演艺界有种又爱又恨的感觉，因为我曾接触过很多伟大的事情，但都没有实现。
It couldn't come through.
它无法通过。
It's really tough.
真的很难。
Showbusiness is tough.
演艺事业很艰难。
But it's fun initially, and then it gets tough.
但一开始很有趣，然后就变得困难了。
And it gets tougher.
而且事情变得更加艰难。
I wouldn't want my grandkids in showbusiness.
我不希望我的孙子进入演艺界。
I really wouldn't.
我真的不会。
I mean, I was born to it.
我的意思是，我生来就是这样。
But if you can do anything else in the world, do that.
但如果你能做世界上其他任何事情，那就去做吧。
Don't get in showbusiness.
别涉足演艺圈。
So you're saying you didn't have a choice but to do this.
所以你是说你别无选择，只能这样做。
Why?
为什么？
Just because you loved it too much?
就因为太爱了？
It was in my heart, just like my wife.
它在我心里，就像我的妻子一样。
When I met my wife, I had no choice.
当我遇到我的妻子时，我别无选择。
I didn't want to get married.
我不想结婚。
But that's what love is.
但这就是爱。
Love doesn't give you a choice, I don't think.
爱情不会给你选择的机会，我不这么认为。
And neither does showbusiness.
演艺界也没有。
I was always fascinated by guys that were so smart, like Jerry Seinfeld and people like that that could put the show and the business together.
我总是对那些如此聪明的人着迷，比如杰里·宋飞和这样的人，他们可以将节目和业务结合在一起。
I always had trouble with the business.
我在生意上总是遇到麻烦。
Even now, everything that I do, over 1,000 songs I've sang on YouTube, will I be paid for that work?
即使是现在，我所做的一切，我在 YouTube 上演唱的 1,000 多首歌曲，我会因为这项工作而获得报酬吗？
Will I be paid for that effort?
我的努力会得到报酬吗？
No. Why do I do it?
不，我为什么要这么做？
Because I have no choice.
因为我别无选择。
The word "entertainer" sounds maybe kind of casual.
“艺人”这个词听起来可能有点随意。
You do a little of this, a little of that.
你做一点这个，做一点那个。
Do it well enough, everyone's happy.
做得足够好，大家都高兴。
But Johnny Dark is not a casual guy.
但约翰尼·达克并不是一个随便的人。
And he's definitely not a casual singer.
而且他绝对不是一个随便的歌手。
Thanks to these videos, his life is nonstop rehearsals, nonstop singing.
感谢这些视频，他的生活就是不间断的排练、不间断的歌唱。
I made it sort of a discipline thing for me.
我把它变成了一种纪律。
I have to know exactly every line every single day.
我每天都必须准确地知道每一行。
So every morning, I get up, and it's just like I'm taking a gig.
所以每天早上，我起床的时候，就好像我正在参加一场演出。
I get in the shower.
我去洗澡。
I go over the song.
我回顾一下这首歌。
I listen to the song on tape while I'm shaving.
我一边刮胡子，一边听磁带上的这首歌。
But don't forget, I've listened to that song for 24 hours off and on with the kids.
但别忘了，我已经和孩子们断断续续地听了这首歌24小时了。
When I'm with the kids at the park, I sing the song aloud in a certain area where I don't bother anybody.
当我和孩子们在公园里时，我会在某个区域大声唱这首歌，这样不会打扰任何人。
But no, I rehearse all the time.
但不，我一直在排练。
I've got it down.
我已经把它记下来了。
So yesterday, me singing "Lollipops and Roses" didn't exist.
所以昨天我唱的《棒棒糖与玫瑰》并不存在。
Today it does exist.
今天它确实存在。
(SINGING) Bring her nice things, sugar and spice things, roses and lollipops, and lollipops and roses.
（唱歌）给她带来好东西，糖和香料，玫瑰和棒棒糖，棒棒糖和玫瑰。
Basically, I'm thinking about the song.
基本上，我正在考虑这首歌。
I'm thinking about doing it right.
我正在考虑做正确的事情。
I'm thinking about how I was terrible.
我在想我有多糟糕。
I'm thinking about how that was good.
我在想那该多好啊。
I'm just thinking about the art.
我只是在思考艺术。
And sometimes I'll do a song four or five times.
有时我会把一首歌唱四五次。
I'll even post it on YouTube.
我什至会把它发布到 YouTube 上。
And then I'll listen to it and I'll go, I don't hear it.
然后我会听，然后我就走，我没有听到。
I don't hear the music.
我听不到音乐。
And I'll delete it.
我会删除它。
And then I'll do it again.
然后我会再做一次。
And if I don't hear it, I'll delete that.
如果我听不到，我就会删除它。
And then I do it again, and if I hear it, then I'll post it.
然后我再做一次，如果我听到了，我就会发布它。
I mean, is there a sense in which these songs are more for you than for anyone else?
我的意思是，这些歌曲是否比其他人更适合你？
They're as much for me as for anyone else, yeah.
它们对我和其他人来说都是一样的，是的。
They're as much for me because I want to keep this working as good as it could possibly work, you know?
它们对我来说同样重要，因为我想让它尽可能地工作，你知道吗？
I meant my brain by that.
我指的是我的大脑。
I was pointing to my brain.
我指着我的大脑。
He also posts the videos on Facebook.
他还在 Facebook 上发布了这些视频。
And he gets more engagement there-- not a massive amount, but 30 or 40 likes per video.
他在那里获得了更多的参与度——不是很多，但每个视频有 30 或 40 个赞。
And people show up in the comments section, reminiscing about the old songs they loved growing up.
人们出现在评论部分，回忆他们从小到大喜欢的老歌。
But Johnny still directs people to his YouTube page.
但约翰尼仍然引导人们访问他的 YouTube 页面。
He says that's his personal archive, the thing he's building.
他说那是他的个人档案，他正在建立的东西。
He wants to leave it behind for his grandchildren.
他想把它留给他的孙子们。
I like to picture them decades from now, sitting around a laptop, listening to grandpa singing "Me and My Shadow" or "The Very Thought of You."
我喜欢想象几十年后他们坐在笔记本电脑旁，听爷爷唱“我和我的影子”或“对你的思念”。
But there's one last reason Johnny makes videos everyday.
但约翰尼每天制作视频还有最后一个原因。
He still has showbiz ambitions.
他仍然有演艺事业的野心。
He's currently pitching a sitcom, in fact, with a friend of his.
事实上，他目前正在和他的一个朋友一起推销一部情景喜剧。
But on YouTube, he doesn't have to pitch.
但在 YouTube 上，他不需要推销。
And I think that might be the main reason he's been doing it for so long.
我认为这可能是他长期以来一直这样做的主要原因。
Maybe there aren't many people there watching.
可能现场看的人不多吧。
But at the same time, there's no one there to stop him.
但与此同时，没有人可以阻止他。
I think the fact that I could sing and not have an audience, and not depend upon anybody-- I don't have to rehearse for anybody.
我认为事实上我可以唱歌，没有观众，不依赖任何人——我不需要为任何人排练。
I don't have to ask anybody's permission.
我不需要征求任何人的许可。
I can greenlight myself everyday.
我每天都可以给自己开绿灯。
Do you know how hard that is to do after waiting for somebody to say, OK, we'll greenlight you.
你知道吗，在等待有人说“好吧，我们会给你开绿灯”之后，这是多么困难的事情。
Let's go with Johnny Dark.
让我们和约翰尼·达克一起去吧。
OK, let's go with Johnny.
好吧，我们和约翰尼一起去吧。
Of all the things that I've done-- and there are tons of things-- there are tons of other things I haven't done, where you go, oh, I wish I had that part.
在我做过的所有事情中——还有很多事情——还有很多其他事情我还没有做过，无论你去哪里，哦，我希望我有那部分。
I came close to-- and that's what singing is.
我接近——这就是歌唱。
So I keep my self-esteem.
所以我保留我的自尊。
I don't have to say, well, you walked away from it, man.
我不必说，好吧，你已经离开了，伙计。
You walked away from it.
你走开了。
Well, I didn't walk away from it.
好吧，我并没有离开它。
I may not be getting big bucks for it, but I didn't walk away from it, man.
我可能不会因此赚大钱，但我并没有放弃它，伙计。
I'm entertaining everyday.
我每天都很有趣。
I didn't walk away from it.
我并没有离开它。
I'm in the business.
我是做生意的。
My toes are in the water.
我的脚趾在水里。
You see Johnny smiling in the videos, eager to please.
你可以在视频中看到约翰尼微笑着，渴望取悦他人。
But underneath it, this whole project is kind of aggro, defiant.
但在其背后，整个项目是一种仇恨、挑衅。
He's going to decide when it's over, and it's not over yet.
他会决定什么时候结束，但现在还没有结束。
Like, I don't need any of you.
就像，我不需要你们中的任何一个。
Sure, I want an audience, but I don't need one.
当然，我想要观众，但我不需要观众。
I'm here to entertain.
我是来娱乐的
And I'm going to be here, whether you're entertained or not.
无论你是否高兴，我都会在这里。
(SINGING) What a world.
（唱歌）多么美好的世界啊。
Man, this is the life.
伙计，这就是生活。
Hey, now, I'm in love.
嘿，现在，我恋爱了。
Kelefa Sanneh, he's a staff writer for The New Yorker Magazine.
Kelefa Sanneh，《纽约客》杂志的特约撰稿人。
Act Four.
第四幕。
So the title of today's episode, "The Daily," is also the title of a podcast.
所以今天这一集的标题“The Daily”也是一个播客的标题。
If you're hearing us, you've probably heard them too.
如果您听到我们的声音，您可能也听到过他们的声音。
And so with them in mind, we end today's show with this.
因此，考虑到他们，我们以此结束今天的节目。
[MUSIC PLAYING] Here's what else you need to know today.
[音乐播放] 这是您今天还需要了解的内容。
The atoms in your body replace themselves.
你体内的原子会自我替换。
So you are not the same person you were a year ago-- or anyway, around 98% of you is not the same person.
所以你已经不再是一年前的那个人了——或者说，大约 98% 的人都不再是同一个人了。
The only atoms in our bodies that seem to stay with us our whole lives are buried in the DNA of some of the cells in our brain and our heart, and also in our bones and teeth.
我们身体中唯一似乎伴随我们一生的原子埋藏在我们大脑和心脏的一些细胞的 DNA 中，也埋藏在我们的骨骼和牙齿中。
Here's what else you need to know today.
这是您今天还需要了解的内容。
Fruit Loops-- they're all the same flavor.
水果圈——它们的味道都是一样的。
The yellow ones, green ones, red ones-- all the same.
黄的、绿的、红的——都一样。
Here's what else you need to know today.
这是您今天还需要了解的内容。
We spend 10 minutes a day looking for stuff we've lost.
我们每天花 10 分钟寻找丢失的东西。
That's the average person on the average day, of course.
当然，这是普通人在普通日子里的情况。
The number comes from a survey of 3,000 adults.
该数字来自对 3,000 名成年人的调查。
14 people in the survey said the amount of time for them searching for lost items was over an hour a day.
14名受访者表示，他们每天寻找丢失物品的时间超过一个小时。
Here's what else you need to know today.
这是您今天还需要了解的内容。
1 million species are on the verge of extinction.
100万个物种濒临灭绝。
It's 1/4 of all mammals, 1/5 of all reptiles, 1/6 of all birds.
占所有哺乳动物的 1/4、所有爬行动物的 1/5、所有鸟类的 1/6。
So as we fix our hair and scroll through Twitter and try to figure out what movie we're going to watch next, that's still happening.
因此，当我们整理头发、浏览推特并试图弄清楚接下来要看什么电影时，这种情况仍然在发生。
Here's what else you need to know today.
这是您今天还需要了解的内容。
And by "you" this time, I mean you.
这次的“你”，是指你。
You need to know that last night, when you put that plate of food in front of me, it was hard not to stare at it like a character bonked on the head in a cartoon.
你要知道，昨晚，当你把那盘食物放在我面前时，我很难不盯着它看，就像动画片里的一个角色被撞到了头一样。
An average Thursday, you take cabbage, onions, carrots, coconut milk-- I don't know what else-- the most ordinary stuff in the world and somehow give me something that is better than anything I could have imagined, like you always do with everything you do.
一般的周四，你拿着卷心菜、洋葱、胡萝卜、椰奶——我不知道还有什么——这些世界上最普通的东西，却以某种方式给了我一些比我想象的更好的东西，就像你总是做的每件事一样。
Our life is so different from anything I thought would ever happen to me.
我们的生活与我想象的发生在我身上的事情是如此不同。
Here's what else you need to know today.
这是您今天还需要了解的内容。
When I was a kid, at night, sometimes after dinner, my mom and I would sit in the kitchen and talk.
当我还是个孩子的时候，晚上，有时晚饭后，我和妈妈会坐在厨房里聊天。
And I don't remember about what, but I remember the feeling of it was just, we were really listening to each other and hearing each other in that way that doesn't always happen.
我不记得是什么，但我记得那种感觉就是，我们真的在互相倾听，并以这种并不总是发生的方式倾听对方的声音。
It felt close.
感觉很亲近。
In my memory, the room is dimly lit.
在我的记忆中，房间里灯光昏暗。
Sometimes my dad would come to the door of the kitchen, lit from the hall light behind him, and see us there, talking quietly, and not join in, but just stand there, apart from us.
有时候，我爸爸会来到厨房门口，身后的大厅灯亮着，看到我们在那里小声说话，他并不加入，只是站在那儿，远离我们。
And I remember a little panic, like, oh, I hope he doesn't feel left out.
我记得有一点恐慌，就像，哦，我希望他不要感到被排除在外。
I hope he doesn't feel jealous.
我希望他不会感到嫉妒。
I hope he won't get mad.
我希望他不会生气。
I was-- I don't know-- seven or eight, feeling this mix of protectiveness towards him and fear, which-- I don't know-- is funny to think about today.
我当时——我不知道——七八岁，感受到了对他的保护和恐惧，这——我不知道——今天想起来很有趣。
My mom, long dead, my dad, getting up there, needing help with stuff that he never needed help with before.
我的妈妈，早已去世，我的爸爸，站起来，需要帮助做一些他以前从未需要帮助的事情。
All that's left of that feeling is the protectiveness part.
那种感觉只剩下保护部分了。
The atoms of our bodies replace themselves so many times over that things between us have become very simple, which I suppose is the best case of what can happen between parents and kids.
我们身体的原子更换了很多次，我们之间的事情变得非常简单，我想这是父母和孩子之间发生的最好的例子。
But it doesn't always feel that way.
但情况并不总是这样。
[MUSIC - "AIN'T NO PLACE LIKE HOME" BY MICHAELOUS]
[音乐 - MICHAELOUS 的“没有像家一样的地方”]
Well, today's show was produced by Diane Wu and Tobin Low.
嗯，今天的节目是由 Diane Wu 和 Tobin Low 制作的。
The people who put together today's show include Bim Adewunmi, Elna Baker, Ben Calhoun, Dana Chivvis, Sean Cole, Aviva DeKornfeld, Damien Graef, Andrea Lopez Cruzado, Miki Meek, Stowe Nelson, Katherine Rae Mondo, Nadia Reiman, Ari Saperstein, Alissa Shipp, Laura Starcheski, Lilly Sullivan, Christopher Swetala, Matt Tierney.
今天节目的制作人包括 Bim Adewunmi、Elna Baker、Ben Calhoun、Dana Chivvis、Sean Cole、Aviva DeKornfeld、Damien Graef、Andrea Lopez Cruzado、Miki Meek、Stowe Nelson、Katherine Rae Mondo、Nadia Reiman、Ari Saperstein、Alissa Shipp、Laura Starcheski、Lilly Sullivan、Christopher Swetala、Matt蒂尔尼.
Our managing editor is Sarah Abdurrahman.
我们的总编辑是萨拉·阿卜杜拉赫曼 (Sarah Abdurrahman)。
Our senior editor is David Kestenbaum.
我们的高级编辑是大卫·凯斯滕鲍姆。
Our executive editor is Emanuele Berry.
我们的执行编辑是 Emanuele Berry。
Special thanks today to Noreen Rizvi, Farah Abbas, Xiangqian Wu, Emmet Newlin, Sam Dolnick, Chris Wood, Stuart Pimm, Logan McCarty, Janelle Hamaker, Eric, Tony, Laura, and the rest of the Brown family, Bruce Shapiro, Michael Lynch and the Alzheimer's Association, Don and Carrie Cole from The Gottman Institute.
今天特别感谢 Noreen Rizvi、Farah Abbas、Xiangqian Wu、Emmet Newlin、Sam Dolnick、Chris Wood、Stuart Pimm、Logan McCarty、Janelle Hamaker、Eric、Tony、Laura 以及布朗家族的其他成员、Bruce Shapiro、Michael Lynch 和阿尔茨海默病协会、来自戈特曼研究所的 Don 和 Carrie Cole。
And thanks to Matt McGinley for covering "The Pink Panther Theme" for us.
感谢 Matt McGinley 为我们翻唱“粉红豹主题”。
Our website, thisamericanlife.org.
我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org。
You can stream our archive of over 700 episodes for absolutely free.
您可以完全免费地观看我们的 700 多集档案。
Also, there's videos.
另外，还有视频。
There's lists of favorite shows that we recommend.
我们推荐了一些最喜欢的节目列表。
There's tons of other stuff.
还有很多其他的东西。
Again, thisamericanlife.org.
再说一次，thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.
《美国生活》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。
Thanks, as always, to our program's co-founder, Mr. Torey Malatia.
一如既往地感谢我们项目的联合创始人 Torey Malatia 先生。
He and I are were out at dinner.
他和我出去吃晚饭了。
And I got up to go to the restroom.
然后我就起身去洗手间。
When I came back, he was eating my burger.
当我回来时，他正在吃我的汉堡。
I was like, Torey!
我当时想，托雷！
What the hell?
我勒个去？
He said it was my fault.
他说这是我的错。
You walked away from it, man.
你离开了它，伙计。
You walked away from it.
你走开了。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
[MUSIC - "AIN'T NO PLACE LIKE HOME" BY MICHAELOUS]
[音乐 - MICHAELOUS 的“没有像家一样的地方”]
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。