733: Warriors in the Garden - This American Life
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From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》。
I'm Emanuele Berry, the show's executive editor.
我是埃马努埃莱·贝里，该节目的执行编辑。
I'm in for Ira Glass.
我支持艾拉·格拉斯。
This week's show is reported by a friend of mine, Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. Last spring, he gave me a call.
本周的演出由我的一位朋友 Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr 报道。去年春天，他给我打了电话。
He wanted to talk about a show idea.
他想谈谈一个节目创意。
His big pitch-- a podcast series about activists.
他的大主题是关于活动家的播客系列。
I was not into it.
我不喜欢它。
I had covered protests in Ferguson the year Michael Brown was shot.
迈克尔·布朗被枪杀那年，我报道了弗格森的抗议活动。
Spent late nights watching protesters standoff with police, weekends at marches.
深夜观看抗议者与警察对峙，周末则参加游行。
I know how this goes.
我知道这是怎么回事。
It's always the same story-- chanting, impassioned activists talking about why they came out, hopeful, forward-looking statements.
故事总是一样的——高呼口号、热情洋溢的活动人士谈论他们出柜的原因、充满希望、前瞻性的声明。
I watched as the story replicated in cities across the country with Black death after Black death.
我看着这个故事在全国各地的城市里随着黑死病的发生而重演。
Saidu and I talked for an hour.
赛杜和我聊了一个小时。
I wasn't sold.
我没有被卖掉。
He ignored me and made the show anyway.
他无视我并继续表演。
It's a podcast called Resistance.
这是一个名为“抵抗”的播客。
And I cannot bear how happy me saying the next few words will make Saidu, but it's good.
我无法忍受我说出接下来的几句话会让赛杜感到多么高兴，但这很好。
So he didn't make the story you'd get by going to protest after protest, like I feared.
所以他并没有像我担心的那样，通过一场又一场的抗议来讲述故事。
Instead, he told stories that unfold over time, about people's lives being changed by the decision to protest, what happens with their personal relationships, home life taking a backseat, exhaustion, egos, celebration, and arguments.
相反，他讲述了随着时间的推移而展开的故事，讲述了人们的生活因抗议决定而改变、他们的个人关系发生了什么、家庭生活退居二线、疲惫、自负、庆祝和争论。
Saidu made the story that's always been there, but no one ever tells.
赛杜创造了一个一直存在的故事，但从未有人讲述过。
There's this perception of Black Lives Matter, that it's this one thing.
人们对“黑人的命也是命”有这样的看法，那就是这一件事。
But of course, the larger social movement of our time is really a loose collection of different groups with different personalities, goals, and methods.
但当然，我们这个时代更大的社会运动实际上是具有不同个性、目标和方法的不同群体的松散集合。
And Saidu made a series of stories about one of them, a group called Warriors in the Garden.
赛杜制作了一系列关于其中一个的故事，这个团体名为“花园里的勇士”。
It was started by about a dozen activists, mostly in their 20s, Black and Brown-- a handful of women, but mostly men.
该组织是由大约十几名活动人士发起的，其中大多数是 20 多岁的黑人和棕色人种，还有少数女性，但大多数是男性。
They're students, marketing directors, waiters, and models.
他们是学生、营销总监、服务员和模特。
Derrick Ingram, one of the founding members of the group, says a thing that unifies them is that each one of them is the loudest person they know.
该组织的创始成员之一德里克·英格拉姆 (Derrick Ingram) 表示，让他们团结起来的一件事是，他们每个人都是他们认识的声音最大的人。
Think about this.
想想这个。
Like, I saw 5,000 people marching and I thought, I can lead them.
就像，我看到 5,000 人在游行，我想，我可以领导他们。
I need to get in front.
我需要冲到前面。
How narcissistic do you have to be to jump in front of 5,000 people and just start screaming at them?
你得有多自恋才能跳到 5000 人面前并对他们尖叫？
Like, I mean-- but I did it.
就像，我的意思是——但我做到了。
All the Warriors in the Garden did it.
花园里的所有战士都做到了。
And they found each other because they were all at the front of the marches.
他们找到了彼此，因为他们都在游行队伍的最前面。
And very quickly, they became one of the best known groups in New York City organizing protests after the murder of George Floyd.
很快，他们就成为纽约市最著名的乔治·弗洛伊德被谋杀后组织抗议活动的团体之一。
The group is cool.
小组很酷。
They look cool.
他们看起来很酷。
And they built a huge social media following.
他们在社交媒体上建立了庞大的追随者。
When people showed up to their protests, they made sure they had a good time, which meant a lot of chanting and dancing and music being played.
当人们参加抗议活动时，他们确保自己玩得很开心，这意味着大量的口号、舞蹈和音乐。
They were explicitly a nonviolent organization because they didn't want their events to feel like endless clashes with police.
他们显然是一个非暴力组织，因为他们不希望他们的活动感觉像是与警察无休止的冲突。
They wanted them to feel like celebrations.
他们希望他们感觉像是在庆祝。
Our actual marches are like club promoting.
我们实际的游行就像俱乐部的宣传活动。
Like, we have digital campaigns.
比如，我们有数字活动。
And a lot of groups don't roll like that.
但很多团体并不是这样运作的。
They make these half-assed flyers on Canva.
他们在 Canva 上制作了这些半途而废的传单。
They don't even know what their route's going to be.
他们甚至不知道自己的路线会是什么。
People are high out of their minds, screaming, tagging shit.
人们疯了，尖叫着，给狗屎贴上标签。
That's not how Warriors roll.
勇士不是这样打球的。
Yeah, there's a level of professionalism, joy.
是的，有一定程度的专业精神，快乐。
Not to bastardize or commercialize what we do, but people have called us the Summer Jam or Coachella of protests.
并不是要贬低或商业化我们所做的事情，但人们称我们为“夏日果酱”或“科切拉”抗议活动。
[LAUGHS] Derrick Ingram I'm just saying.
[笑]德里克·英格拉姆我只是说。
They have!
他们有！
They have.
他们有。
They really-- I mean, multiple people.
他们真的——我的意思是，很多人。
It's because it's a vibe!
就是因为有气场！
That's Saidu laughing.
那是赛杜在笑。
And on today's show, we're going to bring you some of what he found.
在今天的节目中，我们将为您带来他的一些发现。
He got very interested in three of the Warriors in particular, three people Saidu really identified with-- men who entered the movement with similar ideas and motivations, who changed over the course of 10 months and ended up in very different places with different conclusions.
他特别对其中三个勇士非常感兴趣，赛杜真正认同的三个人——带着相似的想法和动机进入运动的人，他们在 10 个月的时间里发生了变化，最终到达了截然不同的地方，得出了不同的结论。
But the story is not just about them.
但这个故事不仅仅关于他们。
It's also about Saidu.
这也是关于赛杜的。
Here he is.
他在这里。
When the Warriors in the Garden and people all around the world started going outside and protesting last summer, I'm kind of ashamed to say that I was on my couch playing video games.
去年夏天，当花园里的勇士队和世界各地的人们开始外出抗议时，我有点羞愧地说我当时正在沙发上玩电子游戏。
The most I raised my voice for anything was to talk trash to my friends over a headset.
我提高声音最多的一次就是通过耳机和我的朋友说垃圾话。
But it was during one of these games that my boy asked me, yo, did you hear about what happened to George Floyd?
但正是在其中一场比赛中，我的儿子问我，哟，你听说乔治·弗洛伊德发生了什么事吗？
I hadn't yet, but these days, your homies don't ask if you've heard what happened to a Black man you've never heard of, unless that man is already dead.
我还没有，但现在，你们的兄弟们不会问你们是否听说过一个你们从未听说过的黑人发生了什么事，除非那个人已经死了。
And I really wasn't trying to hear that because I've been down that road before.
我真的不想听这个，因为我以前也曾走过这条路。
Just six years ago, in 2015, when I was in college, I went to some of the first Black Lives Matter protests in my city.
就在六年前，即 2015 年，当我还在上大学时，我参加了我所在城市的一些首次“黑人生命也是命”抗议活动。
I remember shouting the names of Trayvon and Tamir and Sandra and Akai and countless others, until I lost my voice to tears.
我记得我喊过特雷冯、塔米尔、桑德拉、阿凯以及无数其他人的名字，直到我失声痛哭。
But it didn't stop this shit from continuing.
但这并没有阻止这件事继续发生。
The names still piled up.
名字仍然堆积如山。
And there was nothing that told me that anything I could do would slow it down.
没有任何东西告诉我我能做的任何事情都会减慢它的速度。
My last act of resistance, the last time I thought it was worth it to engage with the death of another Black man, came three years later, in 2018, the year the police killed my friend.
我最后一次抵抗行为，最后一次我认为值得参与另一名黑人的死亡，发生在三年后，即 2018 年，那一年警察杀死了我的朋友。
His name was Marcus-David Peters, the only man I ever met with two first names.
他的名字叫马库斯·大卫·彼得斯，是我见过的唯一一个有两个名字的人。
We met while working together as RAs in college, and the man was so strange in all the best ways.
我们是在大学里一起担任 RA 时认识的，这个人在各方面都很奇怪。
He carried a flip phone and didn't have social media.
他带着一部翻盖手机，没有社交媒体。
He was the only person in the whole dorm who outfitted his windows with satin curtains, deep red.
整个宿舍里只有他一个人给窗户装上了深红色的缎子窗帘。
He would burn expensive candles on his kitchen counter that he probably bought from Williams-Sonoma or something like that, we worked out together at the school gym, and our whole RA staff would just fry him about how much of an old man he was-- his two tight shirts, his cheesy smile, his bald head, the way he always reminded you to carry cash for emergencies whenever you leave the house.
他会在厨房的柜台上点燃昂贵的蜡烛，这些蜡烛可能是从威廉姆斯-索诺玛或类似的地方买的，我们一起在学校体育馆锻炼，我们的整个RA工作人员都会嘲笑他是一个多么老的人——他的两件紧身衬衫，他俗气的微笑，他的光头，他总是提醒你在你离开家时携带现金以备不时之需。
A couple of years after we graduated, Marcus stayed behind to become a high school teacher in Richmond, Virginia.
我们毕业几年后，马库斯留下来，成为弗吉尼亚州里士满的一名高中老师。
He was having a mental health episode one day, when the cops showed up and murdered him, just two miles away from where we'd gone to school.
有一天，他的心理健康状况不佳，警察出现并谋杀了他，地点距离我们上学的地方仅两英里。
His death felt like this huge weight that all of a sudden now belonged to everyone who knew him.
他的死就像一个巨大的负担，突然间属于所有认识他的人。
And I didn't want it.
我不想要它。
I started doing anything I could to get rid of it.
我开始尽我所能来摆脱它。
So my last attempt at activism was trying to get the leadership of our university to acknowledge what Marcus meant to our community, to make a commitment that they would prevent something like this from ever happening again.
因此，我最后一次激进主义尝试是试图让我们大学的领导层承认马库斯对我们社区的意义，并承诺他们将防止类似的事情再次发生。
I called their office and told other people to flood the phone lines, too.
我给他们的办公室打了电话，并告诉其他人也让电话线淹没。
But then, nothing from leadership-- no statement, no acknowledgment.
但随后，领导层却没有任何反应——没有声明，没有承认。
I could have kept at it, kept pushing to make something out of this tragedy in order to feel a little lighter.
我本可以坚持下去，继续努力从这场悲剧中做点什么，以便感觉轻松一点。
I thought about flying back to Richmond and protesting, or calling up his family to ask what they wanted me to do to help to get justice for him.
我想过飞回里士满抗议，或者打电话给他的家人，询问他们希望我做什么来帮助他伸张正义。
But the longer I waited, the more the whole thing felt so damn heavy.
但我等得越久，整个事情就越感到沉重。
What am I supposed to do with this?
我该怎么办？
When you become somebody who knows someone killed by police, when police violence touches your life, what do you do next?
当你成为一个认识被警察杀害的人的人，当警察暴力触及你的生活时，你接下来会做什么？
I've struggled with this question for three years, ever since Marcus died.
自从马库斯去世后，我已经为这个问题苦苦挣扎了三年。
And it's that question that drew me to the Warriors, the group of protesters that I followed for 10 months.
正是这个问题吸引了我关注勇士队，我跟踪了这群抗议者 10 个月。
It's that question that drew me to three men in particular who were trying to answer it.
正是这个问题吸引了我去拜访三个试图回答这个问题的人。
The first Warrior I met was a man named Chi, Chi Osse.
我遇到的第一个战士是一个叫奇的男人，奇奥塞。
I called him up for the first time one evening in early June, but he was busy.
六月初的一个晚上，我第一次给他打电话，但他很忙。
Hey, Chi.
嘿，奇。
Chi Osse Hey, how's it going?
Chi Osse 嘿，怎么样？
You're on speakerphone.
你正在使用免提电话。
I'm with my stylist, Brandon.
我和我的造型师布兰登在一起。
Hi.
你好。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. You said you're with who?
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. 你说你和谁在一起？
My stylist.
我的造型师。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. Chi says he's with his stylist.
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. Chi 说他和他的造型师在一起。
I had done a little digging on social media so I knew that he was really into fashion.
我在社交媒体上做了一些挖掘，所以我知道他真的很喜欢时尚。
I also knew that he was young, 22 years old.
我也知道他很年轻，才22岁。
He has somewhat of a baby face, but takes really good candid photos that make him look much older and hella confident.
他有一张娃娃脸，但拍的照片非常好，让他看起来老了很多，而且非常自信。
Last May was the first time Chi had ever protested.
去年五月是池第一次提出抗议。
And like so many people that watched the video of George Floyd's murder, it wrecked him, and he decided he couldn't just sit at home anymore.
就像许多观看乔治·弗洛伊德谋杀视频的人一样，这让他心碎，他决定不能再坐在家里了。
On his Instagram, you can see how quickly he took to protesting.
在他的 Instagram 上，你可以看到他发起抗议的速度有多快。
He went from being Chi, the fashion enthusiast, to Chi, the co-founder of Warriors in the Garden, in just a matter of days.
仅仅几天的时间，他就从时尚爱好者Chi变成了花园勇士的联合创始人Chi。
The first day, I wore shorts.
第一天，我穿的是短裤。
I brought some water and some chapstick.
我带了一些水和一些唇膏。
That's the most immature, I mean, protesting outfit you could bring.
我的意思是，这是你能带的最不成熟的抗议服装。
But he was still so new to all this.
但他对这一切还是那么陌生。
In Chi's Instagram video from that very first day, you can hear him crying from behind the camera.
在 Chi 第一天的 Instagram 视频中，你可以听到他在镜头后面哭泣。
And it's obvious that he did not expect things to go as far as they did.
而且很明显，他并没有想到事情会发展到这样的地步。
Oh my God.
我的天啊。
I saw a police car get burned.
我看到一辆警车被烧毁。
I was like, whoa, it's really like this.
我当时想，哇，真的是这样。
I didn't know it would get that far.
我不知道它会走到这一步。
By the end of that first day, what was your overwhelming feeling?
第一天结束时，您的压倒性感觉是什么？
So I cried that first day in the middle of the protest, but then it was like anger.
所以第一天在抗议期间我哭了，但后来就变得愤怒了。
I've never been so angry at police officers before, when these motherfuckers are beating us and spraying clouds of pepper spray for people frickin' chanting.
我以前从来没有对警察这么生气过，这些混蛋殴打我们，还向高呼口号的人们喷洒胡椒喷雾。
Seeing police violence in person made Chi more determined to keep coming back to the protests.
亲眼目睹警察的暴力行为让池更加坚定了继续重返抗议活动的决心。
So on day two, Chi comes correct.
所以第二天，Chi 就正确了。
He's looking like he's ready for battle.
他看上去已经做好了战斗的准备。
The next day, I was-- you know, safety glasses and covered my entire face, pants, combat boots, not for combat, but for just toe protection.
第二天，我——你知道，安全眼镜覆盖了我的整个脸，裤子，战斗靴，不是为了战斗，而是为了保护脚趾。
By day three, he looks like a seasoned revolutionary.
到了第三天，他看起来就像一位经验丰富的革命者。
He's in Times Square on a stage, holding a microphone, in the middle of a sea of people.
他站在时代广场的舞台上，手握麦克风，站在人山人海之中。
Everybody!
大家！
They're trying to strike fear in our hearts!
他们试图在我们心中制造恐惧！
If they do not kneel with us, they are fucking against us.
如果他们不和我们一起下跪，他们就是在反对我们。
[CHEERING] Don't let them break you.
[欢呼]别让他们击垮你。
Be peaceful.
保持平静。
Don't break.
不要打破。
They want us to break.
他们希望我们分手。
If we break, we give them what they fucking want.
如果我们打破了，我们就给他们他们想要的东西。
No justice!
没有正义！
No peace!
没有平安！
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. The next time you went out, is that when you wore the beret?
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. 下次你出门的时候，是戴贝雷帽的时候吗？
The beret was day three.
贝雷帽已经是第三天了。
That was when I was finding my own, and people were listening to me, and people were recognizing me.
那时我正在寻找自己的方向，人们在倾听我的声音，人们也在认出我。
And I was like, let's go.
我当时想，我们走吧。
If we're going to do this, let's bring fashion to it, too.
如果我们要这样做，那就让我们也加入时尚吧。
So Chi was the first Warrior I started paying attention to because it's wild to see someone so good at something they just picked up yesterday.
所以Chi是我开始关注的第一个战士，因为看到一个人在昨天刚学到的东西上如此出色，真是太疯狂了。
The second Warrior I noticed those first few days was Derrick Ingram.
最初几天我注意到的第二个战士是德里克·英格拉姆。
He's the one who compared the Warriors protest to Coachella.
他是将勇士队的抗议活动比作科切拉音乐节的人。
He's always out there in a tank top and leather baseball cap.
他总是穿着背心，戴着皮革棒球帽。
Derrick and Chi are both queer, but unlike Chi, Derrick wasn't new to this.
Derrick和Chi都是酷儿，但与Chi不同的是，Derrick对此并不陌生。
And honestly, I was probably drawn to Derrick because like me, he was skeptical of protesting.
老实说，我可能被德里克吸引，因为他和我一样对抗议持怀疑态度。
He tried the marching thing back in 2014 and quit when nothing much changed.
早在 2014 年，他就尝试过游行，但当一切都没有太大改变时，他就放弃了。
He'd moved on.
他已经继续前进了。
He was settling into New York City.
他正在纽约市定居。
He had a new apartment without roommates.
他有一套新公寓，没有室友。
I finally saved up, got all this money, got my place in Hell's Kitchen.
我终于攒够了钱，在地狱厨房里找到了自己的位置。
But this was like my party pad.
但这就像我的派对垫。
Like, get to know people, go to the club, bring somebody back.
就像，认识人，去俱乐部，带人回来。
Like, I thought this was going to be my summer.
就像，我以为这将是我的夏天。
But then, George Floyd was killed.
但随后，乔治·弗洛伊德被杀。
And his friends pushed him to come back out and protest again.
他的朋友们催促他再次出来抗议。
So Derrick threw himself back in.
于是戴里克又投入了进去。
The third Warrior I started watching is a man named John Acosta.
我开始观看的第三个战士是一个名叫约翰·阿科斯塔的人。
John is extremely intense, no matter what he's talking about.
约翰无论在谈论什么，都非常激烈。
But it doesn't take more than a few minutes to realize he can be a real softie, too.
但没过几分钟你就会意识到他也可以是一个真正的软蛋。
John will tell you how much he hates white supremacy and how much he loves you, and there will be a vein popping on his forehead both times.
约翰会告诉你他有多么痛恨白人至上，他有多么爱你，两次他的额头上都会有一条青筋爆开。
This is John.
这是约翰。
It's Black lives, baby.
这是黑人的生命，宝贝。
All day.
一整天。
All lives, that just sounds stupid.
所有的生命，这听起来很愚蠢。
Of course, all lives matter, but right now, it's Black lives that are getting taken the fuck out.
当然，所有的生命都很重要，但现在，黑人的生命正在被夺走。
Most of the Warriors are in their early to mid 20s.
大多数勇士队的年龄都在20岁出头到20岁出头。
John is older.
约翰年纪大了。
He's 32.
他32岁了。
He's got kids.
他有孩子了。
He grew up in the Bronx.
他在布朗克斯长大。
And up until the protest, he worked as a security guard at the World Trade Center.
在抗议之前，他在世贸中心担任保安。
When Derrifck asked John if you wanted to join the Warriors--
当德里克问约翰你是否想加入勇士队时——
He said, yo, you want to be a part of the Warriors?
他说，哟，你想成为勇士队的一员吗？
And I was like, sure, I'll be a part of that.
我想，当然，我会成为其中的一部分。
Let's go.
我们走吧。
Fuck yeah.
他妈的是的。
Last summer, I kept coming back to see what the Warriors were up to.
去年夏天，我不断地回来看看勇士队在做什么。
I'd watch them lead protests of thousands, walk for miles, shouting, "Black Lives Matter," "Hands up, don't shoot," "NYPD, suck my dick," and my personal favorite, "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, fuck 12." I also watched as they formed bonds with each other, sleeping over each other's houses, going out for drinks.
我会看着他们领导数千人的抗议活动，步行数英里，高喊“黑人的命也是命”、“举起手来，不要开枪”、“纽约警察局，吸我的鸡巴”，以及我个人最喜欢的“1、2、3、4、5、6、7、8、9、10、11，操12”。我还看到他们彼此建立了联系，睡在对方的房子上，出去喝酒。
I rode along as they traveled to other cities to protest.
当他们前往其他城市抗议时，我也跟着他们。
When they talk about those early days, it almost sounds romantic.
当他们谈论早年的时光时，听起来几乎很浪漫。
They use words like "fate" and "destiny" to describe meeting each other.
他们用“缘分”、“缘分”这样的词来形容彼此的相遇。
It's low key corny, but kind of cute.
这是低调的老套，但有点可爱。
The murder of George Floyd brought them together, but it also brought police into their lives in a way they'd never been faced with before.
乔治·弗洛伊德的谋杀让他们走到了一起，但也让警察以一种他们以前从未面对过的方式介入了他们的生活。
I hadn't figured out the right way to deal with the space that police violence took up in my life, but they seemed to be on a path to figuring it out for themselves.
我还没有找到正确的方法来处理警察暴力在我生活中占据的空间，但他们似乎正在自己解决这个问题。
The Warriors were pretty successful straight out the gate.
勇士队一开场就相当成功。
They started organizing their own huge protests.
他们开始组织自己的大规模抗议活动。
They got a ton of media attention and built a big social media following.
他们受到了大量媒体的关注，并在社交媒体上建立了大批追随者。
Chi in particular became a really recognizable face in the movement.
尤其是池，在这场运动中成为了一张非常容易辨认的面孔。
He figured out early on something that takes a lot of first-time protesters a while to come to terms with, which is that at some point, the attention will die down and the streets will clear.
他很早就意识到了许多第一次抗议者需要一段时间才能接受的事情，那就是在某个时候，注意力会逐渐消失，街道会变得干净。
And then what?
然后呢？
Just a couple of weeks in, Chi was already starting to think about the future.
仅仅几周后，Chi 就已经开始思考未来了。
And then, he got a text from his auntie.
就在这时，他收到了阿姨发来的短信。
Well, she was giving some critiques to my brothers and I over a group text a couple of weeks back about how young people don't know about their council members and was challenging me on all of this and that.
好吧，几周前，她在一次群发短信中对我和我的兄弟进行了一些批评，内容是年轻人如何不了解他们的理事会成员，并在所有这些和那些问题上向我提出挑战。
And I didn't know, so I took it upon myself to do the research.
我不知道，所以我自己做了研究。
And--
还有——
So he learned who his city council member is, and he also learned that that guy wouldn't be running for re-election in 2021.
所以他知道了他的市议会成员是谁，而且他还知道那个人不会在 2021 年竞选连任。
There was going to be an empty seat.
将会有一个空座位。
He texted his auntie back.
他给阿姨回了短信。
Like, hey.
就像，嘿。
Well, I think I'm running for city council now.
嗯，我想我现在正在竞选市议会议员。
When I heard Chi was running, I kind of wondered if he just got caught up in the moment of last summer.
当我听到池在跑步时，我有点想知道他是否只是陷入了去年夏天的那一刻。
He's a 22-year-old.
他今年 22 岁。
What does he know about policy, facts and figures, crafting a political message, how to reach voters?
他对政策、事实和数据了解多少，如何传达政治信息，如何影响选民？
He started bringing in the Warriors to act as his political advisors.
他开始聘请勇士队作为他的政治顾问。
They asked Chi about any incriminating posts he may have made on social media, debated if he should tone down his chants, the merits of his whole beret look.
他们向池询问了他在社交媒体上可能发布的任何有罪的帖子，讨论了他是否应该降低口号的强度，以及他整个贝雷帽造型的优点。
And then, just a few days later, on Juneteenth, Chi attended a public meeting on Zoom with a bunch of New York political heavy hitters-- the leader of the New York County Democrats, a sitting city council member, and a few other public servants who had been in the game for years.
然后，就在几天后，即 6 月 1 日，池在 Zoom 上参加了一场公开会议，与会者包括一群纽约政治重量级人物——纽约县民主党领袖、一名现任市议会议员，以及其他几位多年来一直参与其中的公务员。
Chi took his turn to speak.
轮到池子说话了。
I do applaud the passing of initiative 760-A, 721-A, and T2020-6267 yesterday, but I'm looking forward to the proposed $1 billion budget cut and the repeal of 50-A.
我确实对昨天 760-A、721-A 和 T2020-6267 倡议的通过表示赞赏，但我期待着拟议的 10 亿美元预算削减和废除 50-A。
I heard that, and my first reaction was like, what?
我听到这个消息，我的第一反应是，什么？
What is 760-A, 721-A, 2020-626-- like, what is that?
760-A、721-A、2020-626 是什么，那是什么？
This is the moment where I was like, oh, shit, this man has been doing his homework.
那一刻我就想，哦，该死，这个人一直在做作业。
This isn't just about berets and looking good for him.
这不仅仅是贝雷帽和对他来说好看的问题。
He's actually got receipts, and he isn't afraid to show them.
他实际上有收据，而且他不怕出示。
It was really impressive.
这真是令人印象深刻。
It's just the tip of the iceberg.
这只是冰山一角。
I challenge you all to go further than $1 billion in NYPD budget cuts.
我向你们所有人发起挑战，要求纽约警察局的预算削减幅度超过 10 亿美元。
I challenge you to go further in passing legislation that prevents police brutality and systemic racism within policing.
我挑战你们进一步通过立法，防止警察暴力和警务领域的系统性种族主义。
He caps it off with this.
他以此结束了这一切。
Chi Osse Also, I'm announcing my campaign for city council, district 36, 2021, Chi Osse.
奇奥塞 另外，我还宣布竞选 2021 年 36 区市议会，奇奥塞。
Thank you so much, Chi.
非常感谢你，奇。
Woman 2 We really, really appreciate you being here.
女人 2 我们真的非常感谢你来到这里。
By June, the Warriors had a political candidate.
到六月，勇士队有了一位政治候选人。
By July, they applied for nonprofit status so their work could extend beyond the protests.
到了七月，他们申请了非营利组织地位，这样他们的工作就可以扩展到抗议活动之外。
And in August, in response to their activism and protests throughout New York, Governor Andrew Cuomo repealed 50-A.
8 月，为了回应纽约各地的激进主义和抗议活动，州长安德鲁·科莫 (Andrew Cuomo) 废除了 50-A。
It gave the public open access to police disciplinary records for the first time in nearly 40 years.
这是近 40 年来首次向公众公开查阅警察纪律记录。
This is the kind of legislative victory that Chi wants to secure for the movement by running for office.
这就是池希望通过竞选公职为运动争取到的立法胜利。
But he is still a Warrior, which means he's still out in the streets with the rest of the group.
但他仍然是一名战士，这意味着他仍然和其他人一起走在街上。
Being Black and choosing to fight for justice is like putting a second target on your back-- the first you're born with, the second you're literally volunteering for.
作为黑人并选择为正义而战就像把第二个目标背在你的背上——第一个目标是你与生俱来的，第二个目标是你真正自愿的。
All summer, I watched protesters being tear gassed, kettled, and beaten by cops.
整个夏天，我都看到抗议者遭到警察的催泪瓦斯、水壶和殴打。
The cops were so persistently violent that the state attorney general would later sue the NYPD for, quote, "pattern of using excessive force and making false arrests against New Yorkers during peaceful protests."
警察的暴力行为如此持续，以至于州总检察长后来起诉纽约警察局，称其“在和平抗议期间对纽约人过度使用武力和错误逮捕”。
The Warriors were already mostly Black.
勇士队的大部分成员都是黑人。
They already had that first target.
他们已经有了第一个目标。
They were about to find out what exactly that second target could look like.
他们正要找出第二个目标到底是什么样子。
One Thursday night in August, Kiara, one of the Warriors, along with Derrick, decided to go out for drinks.
八月的一个星期四晚上，勇士队成员之一基拉（Kiara）和德里克（Derrick）决定出去喝酒。
We were drinking.
我们正在喝酒。
We were dancing.
我们正在跳舞。
We were singing.
我们正在唱歌。
It just felt like it was fun.
只是感觉好像很有趣。
I had a couple of shots, and I had two or three of those.
我拍了几张照片，其中有两到三张。
And I was slammed-- slammed!
我被猛击——猛击！
Having fun.
玩得开心。
Like, we were just hanging out outside.
就像，我们只是在外面闲逛。
We were having a blast.
我们玩得很开心。
Around 2:00 AM, Kiara and Derrick and a few of the other Warriors split up from the bar and made their way home.
凌晨 2:00 左右，Kiara 和 Derrick 以及其他几位勇士从酒吧分头回家。
Derrick told me that he drank so much that night that when he got home, he tried to cook a whole steak at 3:00 in the morning, which-- who can't relate?
Derrick 告诉我，那天晚上他喝了很多酒，以至于当他回到家时，他试图在凌晨 3:00 煮一整块牛排，这——谁不能体会呢？
He didn't end up going to bed till around 4:00.
直到4:00左右他才上床睡觉。
What do you hear at 7:15?
7点15分你听到什么？
Derrick Ingram A knock at the door.
德里克·英格拉姆 敲门声。
Boom, boom, boom.
繁荣，繁荣，繁荣。
Derrick drags himself out of bed to go see who it is.
戴里克从床上爬起来，想要看看是谁。
I have the deadbolt chain on.
我有锁舌链。
I looked through my peephole-- short white guy.
我从猫眼里往外看——矮个子白人。
He asked the address, and I told him my address.
他问了地址，我就告诉他我的地址。
And then he asked my name, and I told him my name.
然后他问我叫什么名字，我就告诉他我的名字。
And he was like, I have a warrant for your arrest.
他说，我有逮捕你的逮捕令。
It was the police.
是警察。
Derrick had no idea what this was about.
戴里克不明白这是怎么回事。
He asked the cop to slide the warrant under the door.
他要求警察将搜查令从门下塞进去。
He looks down, but he doesn't see anything.
他低下头，但什么也没看到。
He didn't know what to do.
他不知道该怎么办。
So he alerts the rest of the Warriors in their group chat that the cops are outside of his door.
因此，他在群聊中提醒勇士队的其他成员，警察就在他的门外。
And pretty soon, all the Warriors are awake and alarmed.
很快，所有的勇士都惊醒了。
A lot of them start checking their own windows and looking through peepholes to see if cops are at their houses, too.
他们中的许多人开始检查自己的窗户，并通过猫眼观察警察是否也在他们的房子里。
I was scared for him.
我为他感到害怕。
I was scared for myself.
我为自己感到害怕。
When the rest of the Warriors don't see cops at their doors, they start strategizing about how to help Derrick.
当勇士队的其他成员没有在门口看到警察时，他们开始制定如何帮助德里克的策略。
Some of them want to head to his apartment ASAP.
他们中的一些人想尽快前往他的公寓。
But others say, no, what if the cops are expecting us to do that?
但其他人说，不，如果警察希望我们这样做怎么办？
And once we show up, they just arrest everybody?
一旦我们出现，他们就会逮捕所有人？
Then Chi comes up with another idea.
然后Chi又想出了另一个主意。
Chi instantly was like, "Go live, go live, go live, go live."
Chi立即说道：“直播，直播，直播，直播。”
Everybody said, go live.
大家都说，去住吧。
Chi Osse Document that shit.
Chi Osse 记录那些狗屎。
I mean, if they're banging on your door, lying about a warrant, people need to see it.
我的意思是，如果他们敲你的门，在逮捕令上撒谎，人们需要看到它。
The Warriors had been amassing a huge social media following all summer.
整个夏天之后，勇士队在社交媒体上积累了巨大的影响力。
Before, it was basically just a tool to keep young people engaged in the movement.
以前，它基本上只是让年轻人参与运动的工具。
But now, they were telling Derrick to go live to their 40,000 followers in hopes that it would keep him safe.
但现在，他们告诉 Derrick 向他们的 40,000 名粉丝直播，希望这能保证他的安全。
I don't know what the fuck is going on.
我不知道他妈的是怎么回事。
Honestly, I have no idea what I did.
老实说，我不知道我做了什么。
So, this is crazy.
所以，这太疯狂了。
In the video, Derrick is wearing the same clothes he wore out drinking the night before-- a leather baseball cap, a navy blue button down, and a silver ring that shines whenever he touches his face, trying to figure out what to do.
在视频中，德里克穿着前一天晚上喝酒时穿的衣服——一顶皮革棒球帽，一件海军蓝色纽扣衬衫，每当他摸着自己的脸，试图弄清楚该怎么做时，戒指就会闪闪发光。
In the comments, Derrick's friends tell him to go back to the door and ask for the warrant again.
在评论中，德里克的朋友让他回到门口再次索要搜查令。
What's going on?
这是怎么回事？
Did you have the warrant?
你有搜查令吗？
There's probable cause to arrest you right now.
现在可能有理由逮捕你。
Is there a reason they haven't called me about this investigation?
他们没有就这项调查给我打电话有什么原因吗？
Is it active?
是否活跃？
The cop says yes, it's active.
警察说是的，它是活跃的。
It's for an assault.
是为了袭击。
To detain me?
来拘留我？
Cop You will be arrested, yes.
警察，你会被捕，是的。
Oh, Jesus.
哦，耶稣。
So there's that.
所以就是这样。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. Sitting back down in front of the camera, Derrick takes the cap off a gallon of water and starts chugging it.
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. 回到镜头前，Derrick 取下一加仑水的盖子，开始喝水。
He doesn't know why the cops are here.
他不知道为什么警察会来。
He wonders if this has to do with a complaint he filed against the police a few weeks back.
他想知道这是否与他几周前向警方提出的投诉有关。
Was this retaliation or something?
这是报复还是什么？
He's not sure.
他不确定。
An hour passes.
一个小时过去了。
So, I get a message saying that, yo, there's a bunch of fucking cops up in front of fucking Derrick's crib.
所以，我收到一条消息说，哟，有一群该死的警察站在他妈的德里克的婴儿床前。
And I was like, what?
我当时想，什么？
John immediately hopped on his bike and flew over to Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as fast as possible.
约翰立即骑上自行车，以最快的速度飞向曼哈顿的地狱厨房。
It's not unusual for cops to show up to arrest someone without a warrant.
警察在没有逮捕令的情况下逮捕某人并不罕见。
What is unusual, though, is what John saw outside Derrick's apartment that day.
然而不同寻常的是约翰那天在德里克公寓外看到的景象。
It wasn't just like one or two cops in a patrol car at Derrick's.
这不仅仅是德里克巡逻车里的一两个警察。
It looked like a full-on tactical operation-- large NYPD trucks, men in suits going in and out of the building, a battering ram.
这看起来像是一场全面的战术行动——纽约警察局的大型卡车、穿着西装的人进出大楼、还有攻城锤。
They'd even begun closing off the block with barricades.
他们甚至开始用路障封锁街区。
So I get there.
所以我到了那里。
I'm rolling up.
我卷起来了
I'm like, what the fuck?
我想，他妈的是什么？
Yo, to see all those officers outside, bro, was intense.
哟，看到外面所有的警察，兄弟，真是太紧张了。
What I saw that kind of baffled me, that let me know that, oh, shit, they're treating him like a terrorist, was when I seen the canines.
当我看到这些犬齿时，我所看到的让我感到困惑，这让我知道，哦，操，他们把他当作恐怖分子对待。
When I seen the dogs, I say, they got him like he's a fucking terrorist.
我说，当我看到那些狗时，它们抓住了他，就像他是个该死的恐怖分子一样。
For all his intense energy, all John can really do at this point is be a witness.
尽管约翰精力充沛，但此时他真正能做的就是做一个见证人。
So he stays out there on his bike.
所以他骑着自行车呆在那里。
Back inside, Derrick realizes he's surrounded.
回到里面，Derrick意识到他被包围了。
So, y'all, officers in the hallway, officers with guns, officer in empty apartments in the building across from me.
所以，你们，走廊里的警察，持枪的警察，我对面大楼空荡荡的公寓里的警察。
They're banging on my door.
他们在敲我的门。
They're literally peeking in my curtains.
他们确实在偷看我的窗帘。
I had to put up a sheet.
我不得不放一张单子。
Like, there's over 30 officers here.
这里有超过 30 名警官。
At this point, Derrick starts thinking about his parents.
此时，戴里克开始想起他的父母。
They don't even know what's going on.
他们甚至不知道发生了什么事。
So he calls his dad.
于是他给他爸爸打电话。
And I Facetime my dad because he doesn't know how to use IG.
我和我爸爸进行 Facetime，因为他不知道如何使用 IG。
His first reaction was, call the cops.
他的第一反应是，报警。
I was like, are you serious right now?
我当时想，你现在是认真的吗？
I was like, you want me to call the police on the police?
我当时想，你想让我报警吗？
What are they going to do?
他们要做什么？
Like, he was deadass.
就像，他死了。
He was like, no, bring a captain out.
他说，不，带一名队长出来。
I was like, nah, that's not going to work, man.
我当时想，不，这行不通，伙计。
Oh, man, that's really interesting because--
哦，伙计，这真的很有趣，因为——
My parents are-- Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. But that's what parents tell you to do.
我的父母是——Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr.，但这就是父母告诉你要做的。
You know what I'm saying?
你知道我在说什么吗？
Like, wait, something bad is happening?
就像，等等，有什么不好的事情发生了？
Call the cops.
报警。
I'm like, yep.
我想，是的。
And I'm showing my dad, like, yep, there's three out of my window right now, one on my balcony, a couple in the building across the street.
我向我父亲展示，是的，现在我的窗外有三个，一个在我的阳台上，一对在街对面的大楼里。
He's like, oh my god.
他就像，天哪。
Derrick's friends kept telling him not to open the door.
德里克的朋友一直告诉他不要开门。
But the Warriors didn't really have that many other options.
但勇士队并没有太多其他选择。
I didn't know what to do at that point.
我当时不知道该怎么办。
So I felt like I can get riddled with bullets if I open this fucking door, but I was thinking about, fuck it, I'm going to put my body on the line.
所以我觉得如果我打开这该死的门，我可能会被子弹打得千疮百孔，但我在想，他妈的，我要把我的身体置于危险之中。
It's going to make a difference.
这将会带来改变。
I'm just going to open this door.
我只是要打开这扇门。
If they fuck me up, that was a thought, too.
如果他们把我搞砸了，那也是一个想法。
Like--
就像——
Yeah, the thought of dying or getting hurt was definitely a thought briefly.
是的，死亡或受伤的想法绝对是短暂的。
Thaddeus.
撒迪厄斯。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. Thaddeus McCarroll was Derrick's childhood friend.
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. Thaddeus McCarroll 是德里克的儿时好友。
They went to school in St. Louis and would run around church camp, playing pranks together.
他们在圣路易斯上学，会在教堂营地周围奔跑，一起恶作剧。
Derrick and Thaddeus lost touch for a while, but linked up years later after high school.
德里克和撒迪厄斯有一段时间失去了联系，但在高中毕业几年后又联系上了。
It was 2014, the same year Michael Brown was killed by police in Ferguson, not too far from where they grew up.
那是 2014 年，同年迈克尔·布朗在弗格森被警察杀害，那里离他们长大的地方不远。
That's when Derrick went to his first protests.
那是德里克第一次抗议的时候。
And Thaddeus was with me there the whole time.
撒迪厄斯一直和我在一起。
Unfortunately, he was struggling with mental illness.
不幸的是，他正在与精神疾病作斗争。
Almost a year after the Ferguson protests, in 2015, Thaddeus was at home when he started having an episode.
弗格森抗议事件发生近一年后，即 2015 年，撒迪厄斯在家中开始出现症状。
He locked himself in his house with a knife, so Thaddeus's mom did what Derrick's dad had suggested-- she called the cops.
他用刀把自己锁在家里，所以撒迪厄斯的妈妈按照德里克爸爸的建议做了——她报了警。
After a long standoff, Thaddeus opened the door.
对峙了很长时间后，撒迪厄斯打开了门。
And he came storming outside, and he was shot several times, riddled with bullets.
他冲到外面，身中数枪，弹痕累累。
And that's how I felt.
这就是我的感受。
I felt like I was barricaded in here.
我感觉自己被困在这里了。
And if I surrendered, that I could have met that same fate.
如果我投降，我可能也会遇到同样的命运。
Thaddeus died.
撒迪厄斯死了。
It's messed up to feel a kinship to somebody in this way, to know that y'all are part of some depressing brotherhood of people whose friends were killed by police.
以这种方式感受到与某人的亲属关系，知道你们都是朋友被警察杀害的令人沮丧的兄弟情谊的一部分，这是一团糟。
And I didn't have to be trapped in a room and get threatened by cops to identify with the thing that Derrick is feeling now-- that he might be next.
我不必被困在一个房间里，受到警察的威胁，就能体会到德里克现在的感受——他可能就是下一个。
It's a thought that I've had many times since Marcus was killed.
自从马库斯被杀以来，我多次有过这样的想法。
But I always talk myself down.
但我总是贬低自己。
Like, there's no way something like that could happen twice in one friendship.
就像，这样的事情不可能在一段友谊中发生两次。
But here was Derrick in that exact scenario.
但德里克就在那个场景中。
3 and 1/2 hours in, the cops have officially closed off Derrick's street on both sides.
3又1/2小时后，警察正式封锁了Derrick的街道两侧。
So anyone else who wants to come and try and help is going to have a hard time.
因此，任何其他想要过来尝试提供帮助的人都会遇到困难。
So Chi comes up with a new plan.
于是Chi想出了一个新的计划。
He gets on the next train to Derrick's apartment, and when he gets off at the stop, he ducks into a nearby corner store and buys a jug of milk.
他乘坐下一趟前往德里克公寓的火车，当他在车站下车时，他躲进附近的一家街角商店买了一壶牛奶。
When he gets to Derrick's block, he walks up to the cops at the barricade.
当他到达德里克所在的街区时，他走向路障里的警察。
I said, what's going on here?
我说，这是怎么回事？
They're like, there's an incident over here.
他们说，这里出事了。
We're closing the street off.
我们要封锁街道。
So I was like, I'm subletting at 146, right over there.
所以我想，我要以 146 的价格转租，就在那里。
I have my milk.
我有我的牛奶。
I don't want it to get spoiled.
我不想让它被破坏。
And they were like, sorry, sir.
他们就像，对不起，先生。
Blah, blah, blah.
巴拉，巴拉，巴拉。
And then I dropped my milk.
然后我就把牛奶掉了。
His plan fails, but across the street from Derrick's apartment, a small group of protesters have started to gather in a park.
他的计划失败了，但在德里克公寓的街对面，一小群抗议者开始聚集在公园里。
Chi runs over and joins them.
琪跑过去加入了他们。
Back inside, Derrick is on the phone with a lawyer, and things start to get even more intense.
回到里面，德里克正在和律师通电话，事情开始变得更加激烈。
They literally cover my peephole.
它们确实遮住了我的窥视孔。
They had a battering ram, so all of this stuff on my wall is falling.
他们有一个攻城锤，所以我墙上的所有东西都掉下来了。
I heard a pop, pop, pop.
我听到啪、啪、啪的声音。
Derrick, you're the one making this difficult.
德里克，你是让这件事变得困难的人。
We're just trying to get you to come outside.
我们只是想让你出去。
Derrick, do you understand what I'm saying?
德里克，你明白我在说什么吗？
Bro, this is-- Cop There's no hostility.
兄弟，这是——警察，没有敌意。
You're the one being hostile right now.
你现在就是敌对的人。
I'm not being hostile.
我没有敌意。
I'm calm.
我很平静。
I'm calm.
我很平静。
I am chill.
我很冷。
I'm sorry, I think I lost you.
对不起，我想我失去了你。
Um, hey, Derrick--
嗯，嘿，德里克——
There's no warrant.
没有搜查令。
Derrick Ingram And then at another point-- and this was caught on camera-- they were like--
德里克·英格拉姆 然后在另一个时刻——这被摄像机捕捉到了——他们就像——
So why don't you be the warrior you state you are and come out and let's face the situation?
那么，为什么你不成为你所说的战士，站出来让我们面对这种情况呢？
--why don't you be the warrior you say you are?
——你为什么不成为你自称的战士呢？
Derrick only has two options-- stay inside or open the door.
戴里克只有两个选择——呆在里面或者打开门。
And as the police ramp up the pressure, it's getting harder and harder to know which one to choose.
随着警方加大压力，越来越难知道该选择哪一个。
The lawyers he's on the phone with have been trying to negotiate a peaceful surrender with the police, but haven't had any luck.
与他通电话的律师一直试图与警方谈判和平自首，但没有任何运气。
So now they're just trying to help Derrick stay calm.
所以现在他们只是想帮助戴里克保持冷静。
Yes, yeah, I'll-- Cop Did you hear what I said, Derrick?
是的，是的，我会—— 警察，你听到我说的话了吗，Derrick？
Derrick-- Cop Now could you acknowledge me, please?
德里克——警察 现在你能认出我吗？
I'm treating you like a gentleman.
我待你像个绅士。
OK, I'm so overwhelmed.
好吧，我真是不知所措。
Cop Right?
警察对吗？
I'm treating you like a gentleman.
我待你像个绅士。
I just want to get this over with, and it's too much.
我只想尽快结束这一切，但这太过分了。
It's too much.
太多了。
No, I hear you.
不，我听到了。
I hear you.
我听到了。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. By noon, almost five hours into this whole ordeal, the crowd of supporters is getting bigger.
小赛杜·泰詹·托马斯 (Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr.) 到了中午，整个磨难已经过去了近五个小时，支持者的人数越来越多。
A couple hundred people have tuned into the Instagram Live to watch.
已有数百人调入 Instagram Live 观看。
And at this point, Chi is pissed.
而此时，池央央却生气了。
He and the rest of the Warriors realize that what they have to do now is start putting as much pressure on the NYPD outside as they're putting on Derrick inside.
他和勇士队的其他成员意识到，他们现在要做的就是开始向纽约警察局外线施加与内线德里克一样大的压力。
So Chi grabs his megaphone and gets to work.
于是，Chi 抓起扩音器开始工作。
If there was a reason for his arrest, they would have arrested him by now.
如果他有被捕的理由的话，他们现在就已经逮捕了他。
It's been five hours.
已经五个小时了。
Where's the warrant?
搜查令在哪里？
Where's the warrant?
搜查令在哪里？
Where's your warrant?
你的搜查令在哪里？
Where's your warrant?
你的搜查令在哪里？
And then at one point, I could hear my friends, I could hear some of the protesters chanting from my windows.
然后在某一时刻，我可以听到我的朋友们，我可以听到一些抗议者从我的窗户里高喊口号。
"Where's the warrant?"
“搜查令在哪里？”
Where's your warrant?
你的搜查令在哪里？
Where's your warrant?
你的搜查令在哪里？
And it was Chi.
那是奇。
Chi Osse Where's your warrant?
奇·奥西 你的搜查令在哪里？
I felt protected because there were so many eyes on me.
我感到受到了保护，因为有很多双眼睛注视着我。
I felt like, they're not going to kill me on live.
我感觉，他们不会现场杀了我。
They might hurt me.
他们可能会伤害我。
They might do some fucked up shit, but I feel protected.
他们可能会做一些糟糕的事，但我感到受到了保护。
Like, that's how I felt.
就像，这就是我的感受。
This was wild to me, because cops killed people in front of an audience all the time.
这对我来说很疯狂，因为警察总是在观众面前杀人。
But Derrick felt comforted knowing that his friends were outside.
不过知道朋友们都在外面，戴里克还是感到很欣慰。
So finally, he decides to open the door.
所以最后，他决定打开门。
I literally had my hands on the door, and I see a message.
我把手放在门上，看到一条消息。
Says, don't open it, DWRECK.
说，不要打开它，DWRECK。
Don't open the door.
不要开门。
They're leaving.
他们要走了。
I hear cheering outside.
我听到外面有欢呼声。
I was like, oh, shit, they are leaving.
我当时想，哦，操，他们要走了。
So I didn't open the door.
所以我没有开门。
With no warning, no obvious reason, and almost as quickly as they'd shown up, the cops had packed up their stuff and bounced, just like that, after more than six hours.
在没有任何警告、没有明显原因的情况下，警察几乎一出现就收拾好了东西，就这样在六个多小时后逃跑了。
The moment the police left, John took off towards Derrick's building.
警察一走，约翰就向德里克的大楼走去。
That was a good moment, man.
那是一个美好的时刻，伙计。
I'd seen him, he'd seen me.
我见过他，他也见过我。
He'd seen that it was somebody that loves him that was there.
他发现那里有一个爱他的人。
It wasn't some fucking cop ready to take him out and shit.
这可不是哪个该死的警察准备把他带出去拉屎的。
Did you just hug him?
你刚刚拥抱过他吗？
John Acosta Hell yeah, man.
约翰·阿科斯塔 是的，伙计。
I hugged the shit out of that man.
我抱住了那个男人。
I'm proud of that man, yo!
我为那个男人感到骄傲，哟！
The people united will never be defeated.
人民团结起来，就不会被打败。
The people united--
人民团结起来——
The next day, Derrick went with his lawyer to turn himself in at the precinct.
第二天，德里克和他的律师一起去分局自首。
They figured he'd be safer that way so something like this wouldn't happen again.
他们认为这样会让他更安全，这样的事情就不会再发生了。
And that's when he found out the charges against him-- assault of a police officer for allegedly shouting into a cop's ear with a megaphone at a protest.
就在那时，他发现了对他的指控——一名警察因涉嫌在抗议活动中用扩音器对着警察的耳朵大喊而受到攻击。
They also charged him with obstructing governmental administration, which basically means getting in the way of a cop doing their job.
他们还指控他妨碍政府行政，这基本上意味着妨碍警察履行职责。
I tried to get more information from the NYPD about why all this happened, but they wouldn't tell me anything other than a generic statement, saying a police officer had tried to stop Derrick from entering a, quote, "frozen zone" at a protest, and, quote, "a struggle ensued." I'm not sure that explains deploying the full force of one of the most militarized police departments in the country for one man for six hours.
我试图从纽约警察局获得更多关于为什么会发生这一切的信息，但他们除了笼统的声明外没有告诉我任何其他信息，称一名警察试图阻止德里克在抗议活动中进入“冻结区”，并且“随后发生了一场斗争”。我不确定这能解释为什么要为一名男子部署六个小时的全国最军事化的警察部门之一的全部力量。
I couldn't think of any justification other than they wanted to intimidate Derrick and the growing movement against police violence.
除了他们想恐吓德里克和日益增长的反对警察暴力的运动之外，我想不出任何理由。
Derrick was shook.
戴里克浑身一震。
But he told me after the whole thing, he also felt pretty victorious.
但他告诉我，在整个事情发生之后，他也感到非常胜利。
He had been able to capture the police abusing their power to intimidate an unarmed Black person.
他成功抓获了警察滥用职权恐吓一名手无寸铁的黑人的过程。
Literally, that's what this whole movement is about.
从字面上看，这就是整个运动的目的。
And that's what they did to me, publicly, in Hell's Kitchen in Manhattan.
这就是他们在曼哈顿地狱厨房公开对我所做的事情。
It made them look savage.
这让他们看起来很野蛮。
Derrick did have a second target on his back.
戴里克的背上确实有第二个目标。
He was Black, and now he was a prominent enough activist for the NYPD to come after him.
他是黑人，现在他是一位足够突出的活动家，纽约警察局可以追捕他。
But the Warriors' tactics, the thing they'd been doing all summer, made him safer.
但勇士队的战术，他们整个夏天都在做的事情，让他更安全。
They won.
他们赢了。
A little while later, I was talking to John on the phone about that day at Derrick's.
过了一会儿，我在电话里和约翰谈论了在德里克家的那天。
He mentioned that he got a message from an anonymous account on Instagram.
他提到他收到了来自 Instagram 匿名账户的消息。
He hadn't noticed it at the time when he was focused on the cops.
当他专注于警察时，他没有注意到这一点。
But later on--
但后来——
And as I'm looking, I'm like, what the hell is this?
当我看着的时候，我想，这到底是什么？
I open it, and it says, "You are next." I was like, what the fuck?
我打开它，上面写着：“下一个就是你。”我当时想，他妈的怎么了？
Like, this is a threat.
就像，这是一个威胁。
John laughed it off.
约翰一笑置之。
He sent the guy an emoji of a middle finger and a message-- "You'll have to catch me first."
他给那家伙发了一个中指表情符号和一条消息——“你必须先抓住我。”
Coming up after the break, revenge.
休息后，复仇。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio, when our program continues.
芝加哥公共广播电台一分钟后我们的节目仍在继续。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Emanuele Berry, sitting in for Ira today.
我是埃马努埃莱·贝里，今天代理艾拉。
Today on our show, Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. is telling the story of three activists in the group Warriors in the Garden, who, like Saidu, are trying to make sense of the question, what do you do when police violence finds you unwittingly?
今天，在我们的节目中，小赛杜·泰詹-托马斯讲述了“花园勇士”组织中三名活动人士的故事，他们和赛杜一样，试图弄清楚这样一个问题：当警察在不知不觉中向你施暴时，你会怎么做？
When we left before the break, the Warriors' activism had started to draw the attention of police.
当我们在中场休息前离开时，勇士队的行动开始引起了警方的注意。
Here's Saidu again.
赛杜又来了。
By the end of last summer, almost all the Warriors said they'd gotten death threats on social media, all except John.
到去年夏末，几乎所有勇士队球员都表示，他们在社交媒体上收到了死亡威胁，除了约翰。
John got his first one that day outside Derrick's apartment, when he was watching the police siege.
那天约翰在德里克的公寓外面得到了他的第一个礼物，当时他正在观看警察的围攻。
He got in a message from an anonymous account on Instagram, saying, "You are next."
他从 Instagram 上的一个匿名账户收到一条消息，说：“下一个就是你了。”
I didn't really pay any mind to it like that because-- I asked people, because this is my first threat.
我并没有真正在意它，因为——我问过人们，因为这是我的第一个威胁。
I asked people.
我问人。
I was like, yo, I just got threatened.
我当时想，哟，我刚刚受到威胁。
This is my first threat.
这是我的第一个威胁。
What should I do?
我应该怎么办？
Oh, ignore it.
哦，忽略它。
I have so many.
我有这么多。
And I said, all right, I'm not going to be worried about it, you know?
我说，好吧，我不会为此担心，你知道吗？
But I'm going to be wary.
但我会保持警惕。
I'm going to be looking around, making sure everything's OK.
我会环顾四周，确保一切正常。
And then, boom.
然后，繁荣。
Then I got caught with my pants down.
然后我脱下裤子就被抓住了。
Within two weeks of the siege at Derrick's, John got on Instagram Live.
德里克家被围困后不到两周，约翰就开始了 Instagram 直播。
He was holding up bloody wrists to the camera.
他把血淋淋的手腕举到镜头前。
Hey, what's up, everyone?
嘿，大家怎么样？
I just got hit by a car.
我刚刚被车撞了。
I'm 100% sure they just-- they tried to kill me.
我百分百确定他们只是——他们想杀了我。
They hit me and they booked it out of there.
他们打了我，然后就从那里预订了。
He pans the camera to show a couple of nasty scrapes on both his legs.
他摇动镜头，显示他双腿上有几处严重的擦伤。
He was riding his bike when he got hit.
被撞时他正在骑自行车。
I can tell John is shaken up, as he tells the people watching what just happened.
当约翰告诉观看刚刚发生的事情的人们时，我可以看出他很震惊。
I'm moving out of his way.
我要避开他的路。
I'm moving more to my lane, and he just jumps the line and hits me, looks back, and then bounces.
我更多地移动到我的球道上，而他只是越线击中我，回头看，然后弹跳。
The man sees me.
那个人看到了我。
It's like he seen me.
就好像他看到了我一样。
Clear-- I'm wearing fucking red.
清楚——我穿的是他妈的红色。
What the fuck?
搞什么鬼？
It's mad lit out here.
这里灯火通明。
John says he looked up at the car as it drove away.
约翰说，当汽车开走时，他抬头看着它。
A Chevy Impala.
雪佛兰黑斑羚。
Chevy Impalas are the kind of cars the cops are known to drive when they're undercover.
众所周知，警察卧底时会驾驶雪佛兰黑斑羚汽车。
Shit, man.
妈的，伙计。
I don't even know what to really think right now.
我什至不知道现在到底在想什么。
I just wanted to let y'all know because this is some crazy shit right now.
我只是想让你们知道，因为现在这真是太疯狂了。
I can't even call the fucking police because they're not going to do shit.
我什至不能叫他妈的警察，因为他们不会做任何事。
Fuck 12.
他妈的12。
So I don't know if there's a way that I can prove that it was them.
所以我不知道是否有办法可以证明是他们干的。
I'm looking for some cameras, but anybody that's out here in these streets, man, just be careful.
我正在寻找一些相机，但是任何在这些街上的人，伙计，都要小心。
With protesting, Chi, Derrick, and John have all faced off with police.
为了抗议，Chi、Derrick 和 John 都与警察对峙。
But John has spent years dealing with cops threatening his life.
但约翰多年来一直与威胁他生命的警察打交道。
He grew up in the Bronx, where cops are notorious for harassing the Black and Brown people who live there.
他在布朗克斯长大，那里的警察因骚扰居住在那里的黑人和棕色人种而臭名昭著。
When he was a kid, John says cops showed up to his house and pulled a gun out on him and his mom in their home.
约翰说，当他还是个孩子的时候，警察出现在他家，并掏出枪指着他和他妈妈。
They were looking for somebody else.
他们正在寻找其他人。
Later, in high school, he and his friends were celebrating graduation at one of their houses.
后来，在高中时，他和他的朋友们在他们的一所房子里庆祝毕业。
He says the cops showed up then, too, kicked down the door, and pointed guns at them.
他说警察当时也出现了，踢开了门，并用枪指着他们。
John joined the Warriors because they were the community he'd been looking for, the people who would help them fight back against this enemy that loomed large over his life long before last summer.
约翰加入勇士队是因为他们是他一直在寻找的社区，他们会帮助他们反击这个早在去年夏天之前就笼罩在他生活中的敌人。
But when he got hit by the Impala, something started to switch for John.
但当他被黑斑羚撞到时，约翰的情况开始发生变化。
I called him up a few days later.
几天后我给他打电话。
This shit changes everything.
这狗屎改变了一切。
Cops did this shit to me.
警察对我做了这种事。
That's what I believe, because it was a fucking Impala.
这就是我所相信的，因为那是一只该死的黑斑羚。
These motherfuckers tried to take me away from my family, man.
这些混蛋想把我从我的家人身边夺走，伙计。
All I want now, I want revenge.
我现在想要的，就是报仇。
This was the first time I had heard any Warrior talk about vengeance.
这是我第一次听到战士谈论复仇。
They talked about not backing down, about marching until they could secure some real wins for the movement in New York City, but never in the context of revenge.
他们谈到不退缩，谈到游行，直到他们能为纽约市的运动取得一些真正的胜利，但从来没有以复仇为背景。
The Warriors were deeply committed to nonviolence, and John was committed to the Warriors, so he'd agreed to that, too.
勇士队坚定地致力于非暴力，而约翰也致力于勇士队，所以他也同意这一点。
But after the hit and run, he was questioning everything.
但肇事逃逸后，他开始质疑一切。
You think I give a fuck about some peaceful protest now?
你认为我现在在乎一些和平抗议吗？
Nah, man.
不，伙计。
I didn't do shit, bro.
我没有做坏事，兄弟。
Every single time one of these motherfuckers is in my face, doing some bullshit, I don't knock them out.
每次这些混蛋当着我的面胡说八道时，我都不会把他们打晕。
I don't kick them in the dick.
我不会踢他们的鸡鸡。
I don't kick them in the knee.
我不会踢他们的膝盖。
I don't kick them in the face.
我不会踢他们的脸。
I don't do any-- I just go, aight, that's cool.
我什么也不做——我只是走，好吧，那很酷。
And I take the high road.
我走正路。
This was an attempt on my life, man.
这是对我生命的一次尝试，伙计。
I'm not going around sleeping anymore.
我不会再到处睡觉了。
Like, that shit woke me the fuck up.
就像，那该死的把我吵醒了。
It woke me the fuck up.
这他妈的把我吵醒了。
I have no way of knowing if the car that hit John was an undercover cop.
我无法知道撞倒约翰的那辆车是否是卧底警察。
The NYPD did not respond to our questions about this incident.
纽约警察局没有回应我们有关此事件的问题。
But John didn't want to take any more chances.
但约翰不想再冒险了。
He told me he tried to get security camera footage from a nearby business to try and prove that it was a cop who hit him.
他告诉我，他试图从附近一家企业获取监控录像，以证明殴打他的是一名警察。
But he says they wouldn't give it to him.
但他说他们不会给他。
So now he just doesn't leave the house without strapping a GoPro camera to his chest so he can review his own footage every night when he comes home.
所以现在他每次出门都会把 GoPro 相机绑在胸前，这样他每天晚上回家时都可以查看自己的镜头。
He admitted he was paranoid, but I understood where he was coming from.
他承认自己很偏执，但我明白他的想法。
He just watched his friend be trapped in his apartment for six hours by the NYPD.
他刚刚看着他的朋友被纽约警察局困在他的公寓里六个小时。
If Derrick wasn't on Instagram Live the whole time, who would have believed the shit they pulled?
如果 Derrick 不是一直在 Instagram Live 上，谁会相信他们拉的那些狗屎？
John didn't have evidence.
约翰没有证据。
He just had his word and plenty of examples to point to of police forces surveilling, harassing, or killing Black leaders.
他只是言出必行，并举出大量警察监视、骚扰或杀害黑人领袖的例子。
MLK, Fred Hampton, Nina Simone, Malcolm X-- the list goes on.
MLK、弗雷德·汉普顿、尼娜·西蒙、马尔科姆·X——这样的例子不胜枚举。
John told me he started pulling away from the Warriors.
约翰告诉我他开始远离勇士队。
The protests with all the singing and dancing just didn't seem right.
载歌载舞的抗议似乎不太对劲。
It felt too much like a parade, instead of a protest.
这感觉太像游行了，而不是抗议。
I love it when they're happy.
我喜欢他们高兴的时候。
I do, man.
我愿意，伙计。
It makes me happy, too, man.
这也让我很高兴，伙计。
But we just have no time for that.
但我们没有时间这样做。
And when I seen them, I just feel like they're losing sight of what's going on.
当我看到他们时，我只是觉得他们看不到正在发生的事情。
I've been thinking about that solid, like solid.
我一直在思考那种固体，就像固体一样。
All this bull, and we out here giving out Black joy.
所有这些公牛，我们在这里给予黑人欢乐。
I was fine with it for a little bit.
我暂时觉得还好。
Then I started to realize, yo, what the fuck is going on?
然后我开始意识到，哟，到底发生了什么事？
I looked at myself.
我看着自己。
I'm like, where the fuck is the rage, bro?
我想，兄弟，他妈的愤怒在哪里？
I'm not feeling this no more.
我不再有这种感觉了。
The Warrior stance is that Black joy, that celebrating in Black life in spite of everything that's trying to keep you down, is a radical form of protest.
战士的立场是，黑人的欢乐，即在黑人生活中庆祝，尽管一切都试图让你失望，是一种激进的抗议形式。
You take up space in the streets.
你占据了街道上的空间。
You dance and chant unapologetically.
你毫无歉意地跳舞和吟唱。
But you don't engage with the police.
但你不与警察打交道。
You keep it moving.
你让它继续前进。
But John didn't want to hear that anymore.
但约翰不想再听到这个了。
Let me ask a fucking question.
让我问一个他妈的问题。
When Breonna Taylor was slain in her bedroom, was she giving out Black joy?
当布伦娜·泰勒在她的卧室被杀时，她是否在散发黑人的欢乐？
Was she listening to music?
她在听音乐吗？
Was she bopping her fucking head?
她他妈是在敲头吗？
No, no music, it was just rings-- gunshots.
不，没有音乐，只有铃声——枪声。
Why the fuck are we giving them our Black joy?
我们他妈的为什么要给他们黑人的欢乐？
They don't deserve our Black joy.
他们不值得我们享受黑人的快乐。
They deserve the Black rage we have, every ounce of it.
他们值得我们拥有的黑人愤怒，每一盎司。
This is war.
这是战争。
There was a truth to John's anger that was hard to look away from.
约翰的愤怒是真实存在的，让人难以忽视。
I recognized his rage.
我认出了他的愤怒。
When Marcus, my friend, was killed by the cops, I didn't realize how angry I was until I walked into a chicken spot on my block, and I saw a customer threatening to fight my favorite cashier.
当我的朋友马库斯被警察杀害时，我没有意识到自己有多么愤怒，直到我走进我所在街区的一家炸鸡店，看到一名顾客威胁要与我最喜欢的收银员打架。
I didn't even know the cashier that well, but I wanted to beat the brakes off this customer for no good reason, other than he was a threat to somebody I knew, somebody I liked.
我什至不太了解收银员，但我想无缘无故地阻止这位顾客，除了他对我认识的人、我喜欢的人构成威胁之外。
But nothing happened.
但什么也没发生。
So I just wandered aimlessly around my block and considered walking into traffic.
所以我只是漫无目的地在我的街区闲逛，考虑走进车流。
But I never did.
但我从来没有这样做过。
I just swallowed my anger and pushed it somewhere I could never access it again.
我只是咽下我的愤怒，把它推到我永远无法再接触到的地方。
When I met John, he seemed to be at a similar crossroads-- swallow his anger or do something with it.
当我遇到约翰时，他似乎正处于一个类似的十字路口——要么忍住愤怒，要么采取行动。
And by now, I knew from listening to him that he's not the type to walk away from a fight.
现在，我从他的话中知道，他不是那种打架后就走开的人。
The way you move and the way you use your anger, I don't know.
我不知道你的行动方式和你使用愤怒的方式。
It feels like maybe the anger helps somehow.
感觉愤怒也许在某种程度上有所帮助。
There's something good about it.
这有一些好处。
There's something that I could actually learn from it.
我确实可以从中学到一些东西。
So what the anger does, it takes that person that is afraid and tells it, shut the hell up.
所以，愤怒的作用是，让那个感到害怕并告诉它的人，让他闭嘴。
Let's go.
我们走吧。
I think you not allowing yourself to continue to fight got you mad.
我认为你不允许自己继续战斗让你生气了。
And I think who you were mad at was not on anybody else but yourself, because you knew what you were doing was wrong.
我认为你生气的对象不是别人，而是你自己，因为你知道你所做的事情是错误的。
So you weren't mad-- you were upset with the police at what they did, hell yeah.
所以你并没有生气——你对警察的所作所为感到不满，是的。
But the person that you were really mad at was yourself because you were walking away from what you were believing in.
但你真正生气的人是你自己，因为你正在远离你所相信的东西。
You gave up on you.
你放弃了你。
One day, at the end of one of our conversations in September, John invited me to a protest.
九月份的一天，在我们的一次谈话结束时，约翰邀请我参加一场抗议活动。
Maybe he was trying to help me see something, or maybe he wanted to prove to me that he wasn't all talk.
也许他是想帮助我看到一些东西，或者也许他想向我证明他并不只是说说而已。
But he told me to meet him at a park in the Bronx the next day.
但他告诉我第二天在布朗克斯的一个公园见他。
It's about 4:00 PM when I pull up.
当我停下来时，已经是下午 4:00 左右了。
There's a small crowd gathered at the center of the park, no more than 100 people.
公园中心聚集了一小群人，不过不超过100人。
And the first thing you hear when you're approaching the crowd is something like, if you're not comfortable being arrested, this is not the place for you.
当你走近人群时，你听到的第一句话是，如果你不舒服被逮捕，那么这里不适合你。
I know some of us are and might be.
我知道我们中的一些人是并且可能是。
We don't like those fascists, but we know--
我们不喜欢那些法西斯分子，但我们知道——
It's not a Warriors protest.
这不是勇士队的抗议。
This one was organized by a couple other groups John's been spending more time with since his hit-and-run.
这次活动是由其他几个团体组织的，自从约翰肇事逃逸以来，他一直在其中度过更多的时间。
They're protesters who are a little more willing to antagonize the cops.
他们是更愿意对抗警察的抗议者。
I find out from somebody what I already suspected.
我从某人那里发现了我已经怀疑的事情。
The goal of this protest is to march onto the George Washington Bridge and shut it down.
这次抗议的目标是游行到乔治华盛顿大桥并关闭它。
There's a few Warriors who have shown up.
已经有几位勇士登场了。
But I don't see Derrick.
但我没有看到德里克。
He told me later that this was not his kind of protest.
他后来告诉我，这不是他的抗议方式。
I said, John, I don't think the Warriors should participate, and I cannot participate.
我说，约翰，我认为勇士队不应该参加，我也不能参加。
I think you like the idea of taking a bridge because it sounds cool.
我想你喜欢走桥的想法，因为这听起来很酷。
I didn't hear any demands.
我没有听到任何要求。
I didn't hear an endgame.
我没有听到结局。
I didn't know what a resolution was.
我不知道决议是什么。
There may not have been a specific set of demands, but there was an endgame.
可能没有特定的要求，但有一个结局。
And it seems like the cops know about this plan to take the bridge, too.
看来警察也知道这个夺取大桥的计划。
Because just a few feet away from where we're standing, patrol cars and vans are starting to pull up to follow the march, a long row of red and blue lights flashing down the street for blocks.
因为距离我们站的地方只有几英尺，巡逻车和货车开始跟随游行队伍停下来，一长排红色和蓝色的灯光沿着街道闪烁了几个街区。
I start looking around the crowd for John, but I spot Chi instead.
我开始在人群中寻找约翰，但我却看到了琪。
You like my collared shirt today?
你喜欢我今天的有领衬衫吗？
Do I look like a politician today?
我今天看起来像个政治家吗？
Nice.
好的。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. In his sweater/collared shirt combo, Chi tells me he's been asked to give a speech.
小赛杜·泰詹-托马斯 (Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr.) 身穿毛衣/有领衬衫组合的 Chi 告诉我，他被邀请发表演讲。
He walks up onto a makeshift podium in front of the crowd.
他在人群面前走上临时讲台。
How are we going to change the course of this war, the course of this battle against criminal injustice in New York City, criminal injustice--
我们将如何改变这场战争的进程，这场反对纽约市刑事不公正的斗争的进程，刑事不公正——
Like John, Chi also believes that they're in a war.
和约翰一样，奇也相信他们正处于一场战争之中。
But he believes it's a war best fought through legislation, from inside the walls of city council, once he wins-- not on the George Washington Bridge.
但他认为，一旦他获胜，最好通过立法、在市议会的围墙内进行战争，而不是在乔治华盛顿大桥上。
Our ancestors have fought so hard for the right to vote.
我们的祖先为投票权进行了艰苦的斗争。
Once he finishes his speech, Chi gets ready to leave.
说完，池就准备离开。
So you're about to leave?
那么你要离开吗？
Chi Osse Mm-hmm.
奇奥塞 嗯嗯。
Why don't you want to stay?
你为什么不想留下来？
Chi Osse Because I have other things to do today.
Chi Osse 因为我今天还有其他事情要做。
I have other campaign matters to attend to today.
我今天还有其他竞选事宜要处理。
All right, man.
好吧，伙计。
Be safe.
确保安全。
Chi Osse And tomorrow.
奇奥塞 明天。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, you, too.
是的，你也是。
The cops are already out here today.
今天警察已经出来了。
You can tell that the energy is a little different here in the Bronx in terms of just the police that have already arrived.
你可以看出，仅就已经到达的警察而言，布朗克斯这里的能量有点不同。
My power is outside of those bars.
我的力量在那些栅栏之外。
I will not be arrested.
我不会被逮捕。
I won't.
我不会。
There's some of-- OK, there's some people here-- I'm not snitching-- in bulletproof vests.
这里有一些——好吧，这里有一些人——我不是告密——穿着防弹背心。
It's not my energy.
这不是我的能量。
I can't be doing that.
我不能这么做。
This did not calm my nerves, because Chi was right.
这并没有让我平静下来，因为池是对的。
What the hell was I doing out here?
我到底在这儿做什么？
But before I can think about it too hard, I finally spot John.
但在我认真思考之前，我终于发现了约翰。
He's dressed in all black-- black pants, black long-sleeved shirt, black Kaepernick jersey, black ski mask, and a black bulletproof vest.
他一身黑——黑色裤子、黑色长袖衬衫、黑色卡佩尼克球衣、黑色滑雪面罩和黑色防弹背心。
Just as Chi's about to leave, John calls him over.
正当Chi准备离开时，John把他叫了过来。
They chat, they hug for a second, and afterwards, I walk over to John.
他们聊天，拥抱了一秒钟，然后，我走到约翰身边。
I'm not surprised myself.
我自己并不感到惊讶。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. What's up, man?
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. 怎么样，伙计？
How are you doing?
你好吗？
Disappointed.
失望的。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. Why?
小赛杜·泰詹-托马斯 为什么？
I'm proud that everybody's out here that wanted to come out here because it just shows me who has heart.
我很自豪这里的每个人都想来这里，因为这让我知道谁有心。
But then it just shows how many people are cappin', how many people are just running their mouth.
但这只是表明有多少人在胡言乱语，有多少人只是在胡说八道。
I'm not an asshole.
我不是混蛋。
I love my squad.
我爱我的球队。
But where's Chi now?
但琪现在在哪里？
Not long after, the protest starts to move.
不久之后，抗议活动开始蔓延。
It's important that we keep it tight and that we keep it structured.
重要的是我们要保持它的紧密性和结构性。
All right?
好的？
Who's with me?
谁和我在一起？
[CHEERING] If you're with me, put your fist in the air!
[欢呼]如果你和我在一起，请举起你的拳头！
If you're with me, put your fist in the air.
如果你和我在一起，请将你的拳头举在空中。
The George Washington Bridge is a major revenue source for the city.
乔治华盛顿大桥是该市的主要收入来源。
The protesters believe if they shut it down, they'll cost the city money, get a lot of news coverage, and a lot of attention for the movement, too.
抗议者认为，如果他们关闭它，他们将花费市政府的钱，并获得大量新闻报道，并且运动也会受到大量关注。
As we march from the park into the streets of the Bronx, John moved through the small crowd, checking in on people.
当我们从公园游行到布朗克斯的街道时，约翰穿过一小群人，检查人们的情况。
After a while, we finally reached the George Washington Bridge.
过了一会儿，我们终于到达了乔治华盛顿大桥。
And when John sees it, his eyes seem to light up through the holes in a ski mask.
当约翰看到它时，他的眼睛似乎透过滑雪面罩上的孔洞发光。
This is the bridge.
这就是桥。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. Oh, shit.
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. 噢，该死。
Watch this magic.
观看这个魔术。
Watch.
手表。
Watch this beautiful shit.
看看这美丽的狗屎。
I'd never seen the George Washington Bridge on foot, all 4,760 feet of it just towering right in front of us.
我从未徒步见过乔治华盛顿大桥，4,760 英尺高的大桥就耸立在我们面前。
I look over at John, and he's having a moment.
我看着约翰，他正玩得很开心。
Oh, yes!
哦是的！
Oh, yes!
哦是的！
My heart is racing, and I feel so good!
我的心在狂跳，我感觉真好！
Yo, I feel like a-- I feel like an orgasm.
哟，我感觉就像——我感觉像高潮。
I feel like I'm about to hoop-- ah-- all over the NYPD, baby!
我感觉我就要——啊——整个纽约警察局，宝贝！
For too long, we're taking half steps.
很长一段时间以来，我们都在迈出半步。
This is a full measure.
这是一个完整的措施。
Are you ready?
你准备好了吗？
John rushes to the on-ramp with the other protesters.
约翰和其他抗议者一起冲向入口匝道。
They grab giant construction cones and place them in front of traffic.
他们抓住巨大的建筑锥体并将其放置在交通前方。
And pretty soon, the whole upper deck of the bridge, eight lanes wide, from New York to New Jersey, there's no cars-- just this small group of protesters suspended above the Hudson River, standing shoulder to shoulder, arms linked, hyped about what they're accomplishing.
很快，从纽约到新泽西的整个八车道宽的桥上层就没有汽车了——只有一小群抗议者悬浮在哈得逊河上空，肩并肩地站着，手臂相连，大肆宣扬他们所取得的成就。
I find John darting around the crowd.
我发现约翰在人群中窜来窜去。
How does it feel, bro?
老哥感觉怎么样？
John Acosta We the few!
约翰·阿科斯塔 我们少数！
We the few are many!
我们少数人很多！
That's how I feel.
我就是这样的感觉。
Look at the power we have!
看看我们拥有的力量！
And none of our brothers and sisters came out to support us!
而我们的兄弟姐妹却没有一个出来支持我们！
None!
没有任何！
John and the other activists keep the upper level of the bridge shut down for about an hour.
约翰和其他活动人士将桥的上层关闭了大约一个小时。
The whole time we're up there, the police are nearby, watching, looking annoyed.
我们在那里的整个过程中，警察就在附近看着，看上去很恼火。
They had the bridge, but what these protesters really wanted was to show how violent the cops can be.
他们拥有这座桥，但这些抗议者真正想要的是展示警察有多么暴力。
They want to prove the police will act with impunity, hopefully get it caught on camera, it goes viral, and they make their point.
他们想证明警察的行为不会受到惩罚，希望能被摄像机捕捉到，这件事会像病毒一样传播开来，然后他们就会表明自己的观点。
After 45 minutes, the cops finally move them off the bridge relatively peacefully.
45分钟后，警察终于相对平静地将他们从桥上移走。
But unsatisfied, the group marches towards a nearby precinct.
但他们并不满意，他们向附近的一个辖区行进。
And the whole way there, more cops start to appear from the dark, dressed in riot gear right behind us.
一路上，更多的警察开始从黑暗中出现，穿着防暴装备就在我们身后。
When the group gets to the precinct, there's more cops waiting out front, too.
当这群人到达辖区时，前面也有更多的警察在等候。
This is where we stand.
这就是我们的立场。
This is where we stand.
这就是我们的立场。
We got it jammed up.
我们把它堵住了。
This is where we stand.
这就是我们的立场。
At that point, the cops have had enough.
到那时，警察就受够了。
They gave a quick dispersal warning.
他们发出了快速驱散警告。
Not long enough for people to actually respond to, but long enough to say they did it.
时间不够长，不足以让人们真正做出回应，但足以让人们说他们做到了。
I got the sense that they knew what this was, too.
我感觉他们也知道这是什么。
So they gave them what they came for.
所以他们给了他们他们想要的东西。
They started charging towards us and violently snatching people out of the crowd.
他们开始向我们冲来，猛烈地从人群中抢走人。
This is the New York City Police Department.
这是纽约市警察局。
You are unlawfully in the roadway and obstructing vehicular traffic.
您非法进入道路并阻碍车辆交通。
We all started running away.
我们都开始逃跑。
And in the chaos of bodies bumping into each other, I tripped over somebody trying to escape.
在混乱的身体相互碰撞中，我被一个试图逃跑的人绊倒了。
I quickly got back up and backed away from the crowd to look at what was happening from a safer distance.
我迅速站起来，远离人群，从更安全的距离观察发生了什么。
And some people were crying.
还有一些人在哭泣。
Others were screaming in pain.
其他人都痛苦地尖叫着。
And John was still darting around the crowd.
而约翰仍然在人群中窜来窜去。
It definitely felt like a war, and I think some people didn't realize that's what they were signing up for.
这绝对感觉就像一场战争，我认为有些人没有意识到这就是他们报名参加的目的。
I saw John walk up to a couple who were frozen with fear and crying in each other's arms, and he told them to go home, to get out of here.
我看到约翰走到一对夫妇面前，他们因恐惧而僵硬，在彼此的怀里哭泣，他告诉他们回家，离开这里。
The night ended with at least six people arrested.
当晚至少有六人被捕。
One of them was a good friend of John's.
其中一位是约翰的好朋友。
I understood then why Derrick didn't show up for this and why Chi left.
我这才明白为什么Derrick没有出现，以及Chi为什么离开。
It all felt pointless.
一切都感觉毫无意义。
When I spoke to John later, I told him that.
当我后来和约翰谈话时，我告诉了他这一点。
When we went out there, by the end of it, people were trampling over each other, dog.
当我们出去时，到最后，人们互相践踏，狗。
People were literally crying.
人们简直哭了。
I don't know.
我不知道。
It just didn't seem like the anger was useful in that moment.
只是那一刻的愤怒似乎并没有什么用处。
It seemed like it was more destructive than anything.
似乎比什么都更具破坏性。
You didn't see it then.
那时你没有看到。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. Say it again?
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. 再说一遍？
You didn't see it then.
那时你没有看到。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. John tells me the goal here was to expose the police and their brutality, that this is how they will make sure their message is heard.
小约翰·赛杜·泰詹·托马斯告诉我，我们的目标是揭露警察及其暴行，这样他们才能确保他们的信息被听到。
Isn't that the point, to prove how disgusting the system is?
这不就是为了证明这个制度有多恶心吗？
I am looking at the goal.
我正在看着目标。
The goal for me is abolishing the police, tearing down the whole system.
我的目标是废除警察，摧毁整个系统。
So, in order to have everybody see why, because there's people that don't see why.
所以，为了让每个人都明白为什么，因为有些人不明白为什么。
Let me show you why.
让我告诉你原因。
Keep exposing them.
继续曝光他们。
Keep exposing them.
继续曝光他们。
Keep exposing them until everybody sees.
继续曝光它们，直到每个人都看到为止。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I just hope that there's a more safer way to do it.
我只是希望有更安全的方法来做到这一点。
There's not.
没有。
And if there was, we would have gone about it that way.
如果有的话，我们就会那样做。
But every time that we go safely about it, nothing happens.
但每次我们安全地进行时，都不会发生任何事情。
There is no safe way of doing this.
没有安全的方法可以做到这一点。
I'm sorry.
对不起。
I did see the thing John wanted me to see.
我确实看到了约翰想让我看到的东西。
I saw that the police were being unnecessarily violent.
我看到警察毫无必要地使用暴力。
I'd experienced that at lots of protests.
我在很多抗议活动中都经历过这一点。
But I also saw this other thing.
但我还看到了另一件事。
I saw John telling people to get to safety and trying to pull protesters out of the grasp of cops, but he couldn't save everyone.
我看到约翰告诉人们前往安全地带，并试图将抗议者从警察的手中拉出来，但他无法拯救所有人。
He couldn't be everywhere at once.
他不可能同时出现在所有地方。
If you are running headfirst into a war, you're going to lose people.
如果你一头扎进战争，你就会失去人员。
But I guess we're losing people either way.
但我想无论如何我们都会失去人才。
The Warriors felt like John was crossing the line they'd set as a group at the beginning of all this.
勇士队感觉约翰正在跨越他们在这一切开始时设定的界限。
For a nonviolent group, John was flirting too much with chaos and vengeance.
对于一个非暴力团体来说，约翰过于追求混乱和复仇。
They told him they were worried about him and encouraged him to take better care of his mental health because they knew John suffered from depression, and he was off his meds.
他们告诉他，他们很担心他，并鼓励他更好地照顾自己的心理健康，因为他们知道约翰患有抑郁症，而且他已经停止服药。
They had a series of disagreements about how to move forward with John.
他们对于如何与约翰继续前进存在一系列分歧。
But eventually, they decided to just air it all out on a Zoom call.
但最终，他们决定通过 Zoom 电话会议将这一切全部公开。
Here's Derrick.
这是德里克。
He literally said, I want every single person to say their issue with me back to back.
他字面意思是，我希望每个人都跟我背靠背地说出他们的问题。
I won't interrupt you because I want to hear all of this.
我不会打断你，因为我想听听这一切。
And I want to know how to respond.
我想知道如何回应。
And immediately, it just turned into an attack on me.
立刻，它就变成了对我的攻击。
It didn't feel like they wanted to keep me.
感觉他们不想留住我。
It felt like they were just trying to find a way to out me.
感觉就像他们只是想找到一种方法来摆脱我。
Kiara started.
琪亚拉开始了。
It was she doesn't trust me because of-- I'm a liability or something like that.
她不信任我是因为——我是一个负担或者类似的原因。
I'm a risk or some shit.
我是一个风险或者一些狗屎。
I told John, I said I personally would not like you in the group anymore because of your actions.
我告诉约翰，我说我个人不会再喜欢你在这个团体里了，因为你的行为。
Personally, we all love John personally.
就个人而言，我们都爱约翰。
But when you see kind of the shift in character and a shift in beliefs, we had to come to an agreement.
但当你看到性格的转变和信仰的转变时，我们必须达成协议。
Like, OK, what's best for the group?
就像，好吧，什么对团队来说是最好的？
The Warriors told John that if he was going to stay in the group, he'd need to commit to three things.
勇士队告诉约翰，如果他想留在球队，他需要承诺三件事。
First, that he'd make his mental health a priority.
首先，他会优先考虑自己的心理健康。
Second, he'd need to pledge his loyalty to the group.
其次，他需要向团队宣誓忠诚。
And third-- maybe the biggest point-- that he'd need to commit to being non-violent.
第三——也许是最重要的一点——他需要致力于非暴力。
But he didn't want to really address our three demands.
但他并不想真正满足我们的三个要求。
And he couldn't.
但他不能。
He couldn't commit to them.
他无法对他们做出承诺。
And I just couldn't focus.
我就是无法集中注意力。
I was mad, and I was angry, and it wasn't supposed to go that way.
我很生气，我很生气，事情不应该这样发展。
It was supposed to be something really, really calm.
这应该是非常非常平静的事情。
Really, everybody talk respectfully.
确实，大家说话都很恭敬。
But nobody was doing that.
但没有人这样做。
Finally, the Warriors decided to call a vote on whether John should be allowed to stay in the group or not.
最后，勇士队决定就是否允许约翰留队进行投票。
They voted no. Later in his apartment, John is still replaying how things went down.
他们投了反对票。后来在他的公寓里，约翰仍在重述事情的经过。
I-- this is fucking-- like, what's that shit called?
我——这他妈的——就像，那东西叫什么？
Survival island or some shit like that?
生存岛之类的？
I got voted out.
我被投票淘汰了。
Like, what the fuck?
就像，他妈的是什么？
[LAUGHS] That shit was unreal, son.
[笑]那是不真实的，孩子。
It was unreal for me.
这对我来说是不真实的。
He cycles through a bunch of emotions, laughing, shouting about it.
他的情绪不断循环，大笑，大喊。
On his bedroom wall, I see this black and white photo of the Warriors together from the beginning.
在他卧室的墙上，我看到了这张勇士队从一开始就在一起的黑白照片。
It was a family.
那是一个家庭。
I learned that it was like my family.
我了解到这就像我的家人。
I spoke to Derrick.
我和德里克谈过。
Yo, Derrick, I love you, man.
哟，德里克，我爱你，伙计。
Don't get it twisted.
别把它弄歪了。
I didn't like how the shit went down, but I love you.
我不喜欢事情的发展，但我爱你。
It just hurts.
只是很痛。
It hurts.
好痛。
They betrayed me, bro.
他们背叛了我，兄弟。
[EXHALES] It's been hard, man.
[呼气]这太难了，伙计。
Yo, those Warriors, man, they betrayed me, man.
哟，那些勇士，伙计，他们背叛了我，伙计。
They betrayed me, son.
他们背叛了我，儿子。
They left me out there in the cold to rot, bro.
他们把我留在寒冷的地方任其腐烂，兄弟。
Did me dirt.
把我弄脏了。
Ever since my friend Marcus was killed, I've been sitting with this question-- what am I supposed to do with this weight?
自从我的朋友马库斯被杀以来，我一直在思考这个问题——我该怎么处理这个重量？
With the Warriors, I think I had this expectation that when police violence lands in your lap, there's only one right way to deal with it.
在勇士队，我想我有这样的期望：当警察暴力降临到你的腿上时，只有一种正确的方法来处理它。
I thought with John, Chi, and Derrick, I might finally figure out what that one way was.
我想和约翰、奇和德里克一起，我可能最终会弄清楚那一种方法是什么。
But the three of them have each landed in three very different places.
但他们三人分别降落在了三个截然不同的地方。
John is still running headfirst towards cops at protests and getting arrested, now with a different group of people.
约翰在抗议活动中仍然一头冲向警察并被捕，但现在和另一群人在一起。
He's not playing it safe, and he's OK with that.
他不谨慎行事，但他对此表示同意。
Chi is nine months into his political campaign.
池已经进入政治竞选九个月了。
I've gone out canvassing with him.
我和他一起出去拉票。
Just the other day, I watched him basically obliterate his opponents at a debate.
就在前几天，我在一场辩论中看到他基本上消灭了他的对手。
Do you feel like you're becoming a better politician?
您觉得自己正在成为一名更好的政治家吗？
I don't like to consider myself a politician.
我不喜欢将自己视为政治家。
I would say I'm more of a public advocate, and I'm running to be a public advocate.
我想说我更像是一名公共倡导者，而且我竞选的目的是成为一名公共倡导者。
I'm a candidate for public advocacy.
我是公共宣传的候选人。
So the answer is yes, you've become a better politician.
所以答案是肯定的，你已经成为一名更好的政治家。
Does it sound like I have?
听起来像我有吗？
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. You just sidestepped my question and put your own rhetoric out there in the most seamless way.
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. 你只是回避了我的问题，并以最无缝的方式提出了你自己的言论。
So I think--
所以我认为——
I've become a better public advocate.
我已经成为一名更好的公共倡导者。
That's the right answer.
这是正确的答案。
OK.
好的。
Derrick is still going to protests all the time with the Warriors and Chi, but he's grown to be a high-profile activist now with a huge platform.
德里克仍然会一直与勇士队和Chi一起抗议，但他现在已经成长为一个高调的活动家，拥有一个巨大的平台。
He's now working with places like Amnesty International and Reebok to bring attention to police overreach.
他现在正与国际特赦组织和锐步等机构合作，引起人们对警察过度干预的关注。
He's found his life's work.
他找到了自己一生的工作。
All three of them have figured out what I still haven't.
他们三个都已经弄清楚了我还没有弄清楚的事情。
On Martin Luther King Day, there was a protest at Barclays Center in Brooklyn.
马丁·路德·金纪念日当天，布鲁克林巴克莱中心发生了抗议活动。
And everyone was there-- Chi, John, and Derrick.
每个人都在那里——Chi、John 和 Derrick。
By now, tensions had cooled, and they were all smiling and talking to each other, just catching up.
现在，紧张气氛已经缓和下来，他们都微笑着互相交谈，只是在追赶。
At some point, dancing broke out, as it always does.
在某个时刻，舞蹈爆发了，就像往常一样。
People formed a circle, and Chi got in the middle for a second and hit a few moves.
众人围成一圈，池央央在中间站了一会儿，打出了几招。
I looked off to the side, and Derrick was joining in.
我向旁边看去，德里克也加入了进来。
When I turned around, I couldn't believe it.
当我转过身来时，我简直不敢相信。
There was John, getting low, dancing along with them.
约翰低着头，和他们一起跳舞。
I'm always happy to see them together and enjoying themselves like this.
我总是很高兴看到他们在一起并享受这样的时光。
I'm also haunted by this other thought.
我也被另一个想法所困扰。
It's this.
就是这个。
Think of all the other things these talented, creative people could have been spending their enormous energy on.
想想这些才华横溢、富有创造力的人本来可以把巨大的精力花在其他所有事情上。
How far could Chi have taken his love for fashion if he'd never seen that George Floyd video?
如果 Chi 从未看过 George Floyd 的视频，他对时尚的热爱能达到什么程度呢？
What could John be doing with all the time he's been spending going to neurological appointments for injuries from being beaten up by cops?
约翰因被警察殴打受伤而去神经科就诊，这段时间他能做什么呢？
What if Derrick's apartment could have just stayed a party pad and didn't have to be the site of a police siege?
如果德里克的公寓可以只用作派对场地而不必成为警察围攻的地点怎么办？
Who could these three men have been if their paths weren't defined by these tragic events?
如果这三个人的道路不是由这些悲惨事件决定的，他们会是谁？
That day, they're dancing.
那天，他们正在跳舞。
And for a moment, they're just people.
暂时，他们只是人。
Chi is just a 22-year-old dude with his friends.
Chi 只是一个 22 岁的小伙子，和他的朋友们在一起。
John isn't angry, and Derrick gets to just be there for the both of them.
John没有生气，Derrick就在他们俩身边。
I think I've been paralyzed by this question of how to respond to police violence.
我想我已经被如何应对警察暴力的问题搞得不知所措了。
Because for me, every answer feels like another loss.
因为对我来说，每一个答案都感觉像是另一种损失。
Toward the end of the night, we march to City Hall.
傍晚时分，我们前往市政厅。
Then, the police started violently arresting people.
随后，警察开始暴力抓捕群众。
That ended things-- the way they always end.
事情就这样结束了——就像它们总是这样结束一样。
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. You can find Saidu's show Resistance on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
Saidu Tejan-Thomas Jr. 您可以在 Spotify 或任何您能找到播客的地方找到 Saidu 的节目《Resistance》。
Credits Emanuele Berry Our program was produced today by Chana Joffe Walt.
致谢 Emanuele Berry 我们今天的节目由 Chana Joffe Walt 制作。
The people who put our show together today include Ben Calhoun, Dana Chivvis, Sean Cole, Aviva DeKornfeld, Hilary Elkins, Damien Graef, Stowe Nelson, Katherine Rae Mondo, Nadia Reiman, Ari Saperstein, Robyn Semien, Alissa Shipp, Laura Starcheski, Matt Tierney, Julie Whitaker, and Diane Wu.
今天节目的制作人包括 Ben Calhoun、Dana Chivvis、Sean Cole、Aviva DeKornfeld、Hilary Elkins、Damien Graef、Stowe Nelson、Katherine Rae Mondo、Nadia Reiman、Ari Saperstein、Robyn Semien、Alissa Shipp、Laura Starcheski、Matt Tierney、Julie Whitaker 和 Diane Wu。
Our managing editor is Sarah Abdurrahman.
我们的总编辑是萨拉·阿卜杜拉赫曼 (Sarah Abdurrahman)。
Our senior editor is David Kestenbaum.
我们的高级编辑是大卫·凯斯滕鲍姆。
Special thanks today to Anna Carlsen, Richard Symister, Eileen and Bobby Berry, Sarah McVeigh, Wallace Mack, and the entire Resistance team.
今天特别感谢安娜·卡尔森、理查德·西米斯特、艾琳和鲍比·贝里、莎拉·麦克维、华莱士·麦克以及整个抵抗组织团队。
Our website, thisamericanlife.org, where you can stream our archive of over 700 episodes for absolutely free.
我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org，您可以在其中完全免费地观看我们的 700 多集档案。
This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.
《美国生活》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。
Thanks to my boss, Ira Glass.
感谢我的老板艾拉·格拉斯。
He has an instruction manual for anyone who hosts the show.
他为节目主持人准备了一本指导手册。
It's confusing how it starts, just all caps.
它的开头方式令人困惑，全部大写。
There is no safe way of doing this.
没有安全的方法可以做到这一点。
I'm sorry.
对不起。
I'm Emanuele Berry.
我是埃马努埃莱·贝里。
Ira Glass will be back next week with more stories of This American Life.
艾拉·格拉斯将于下周回归，带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
This American Life This American Life 与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。