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Prologue: Prologue Ira Glass OK, everybody.
序言：序言 Ira Glass 好的，大家好。
Ready?
准备好？
Ready?
准备好？
Lights, camera, Christmas.
灯光，相机，圣诞节。
Well, my parents say that I can't have a dog.
嗯，我父母说我不能养狗。
This is Pirecua, age 11.
这是 Pirecua，11 岁。
Pirecua So I wanted like another animal that is fuzzy and it walks around.
Pirecua 所以我想要像另一种动物一样，有毛茸茸的并且可以四处走动。
I'm not really a pet sort of person.
我其实不是一个喜欢养宠物的人。
I think she knew she couldn't get a dog, basically.
我想她基本上知道她养不到狗。
This is Linda, her mom.
这是琳达，她的妈妈。
Linda is a reporter at WBEZ, the public radio station that's our home.
琳达是 WBEZ 的记者，WBEZ 是我们家的公共广播电台。
So a guinea pig was, I think, something she felt she could actually ask for.
所以我认为，她觉得她实际上可以要求一只豚鼠。
You know, this is second place, I guess.
你知道，我猜这是第二名。
It's still fuzzy and walks around.
它仍然模糊并四处走动。
Linda's husband is Mexican.
琳达的丈夫是墨西哥人。
And the kids lived in Mexico when they were smaller, so they don't write to Santa to ask for what they want.
孩子们小时候住在墨西哥，所以他们不会写信给圣诞老人询问他们想要什么。
The Mexican tradition at Christmas is to write to the Three Kings.
墨西哥圣诞节的传统是给三王写信。
So she wrote this letter to the three kings.
于是她给三位国王写了这封信。
And do you want me to read it?
你想让我读一下吗？
She says, like, dear Three Kings, I hope you're doing very well.
她说，亲爱的三王，我希望你做得很好。
I hope you're well.
我希望你一切都好。
She says, this year, I was thinking of asking for a guinea pig.
她说，今年，我想要一只豚鼠。
And then she writes-- she has, like, an arrow.
然后她写道——她有一支箭。
She's like, it's like an afterthought.
她就像，这就像事后的想法。
She wrote, a real one, [SPEAKING SPANISH] Then she goes on and asks for some other things.
她写了一封真实的信，[用西班牙语]然后她继续要求一些其他的东西。
But what she really wanted, and she has this whole list of things.
但她真正想要的东西，她已经列出了所有的东西。
But honestly, I don't ever remember her talking about anything else except the guinea pig.
但老实说，我不记得她除了豚鼠之外谈论过任何其他事情。
So comes the big morning.
伟大的早晨就这样到来了。
This was two years ago.
这是两年前的事了。
Pirecua was just nine.
皮雷库阿只有九岁。
The Three Kings did, in fact, bring her a guinea pig.
事实上，三王确实给她带来了一只豚鼠。
And, of course, she was thrilled.
当然，她很兴奋。
She named it Luna.
她给它起名叫卢娜。
The guinea pig was like in her arms, and it was running around her bed.
豚鼠就像在她怀里一样，围着她的床跑来跑去。
And she was just in love.
而她只是恋爱了。
Well, that lasted about an hour before I just noticed she was scratching her forearms a lot.
嗯，这种情况持续了大约一个小时，我才注意到她经常抓挠前臂。
And she said that they were hives.
她说它们是荨麻疹。
I was allergic to my guinea pig.
我对我的豚鼠过敏。
She was completely scared that I would give the guinea pig away immediately.
她完全害怕我会立即把豚鼠送人。
And I think her one goal was to keep the guinea pig.
我认为她的目标之一就是保留这只小白鼠。
So she definitely did not complain about the hives.
所以她绝对没有抱怨荨麻疹。
They were big, red blotches the size of silver dollars.
它们是银元大小的红色大斑点。
Pirecua, however, would not be deterred.
然而，皮雷库亚并没有被吓倒。
She still held it.
她还握着它。
She tried for a while.
她尝试了一段时间。
I was like, maybe if you cover yourself up.
我当时想，也许你把自己掩盖起来。
So what she started doing was she would put on this full face mask that she usually used on the coldest days in Chicago.
所以她开始做的是戴上她通常在芝加哥最冷的日子里使用的全面罩。
It was black.
它是黑色的。
All you could see were her eyes.
你能看到的只有她的眼睛。
Linda showed me a photo of the full getup.
琳达给我看了一张全套服装的照片。
You can see it on our website.
您可以在我们的网站上看到它。
She basically looks like a Zapatista rebel.
她基本上看起来像一个萨帕塔叛军。
[LAUGHS] Linda Lutton She's got a long-sleeve shirt.
[笑] Linda Lutton 她有一件长袖衬衫。
She's got her winter gloves on.
她戴上了冬天的手套。
And in the winter gloves is the little guinea pig peeking out from her hands.
在冬天的手套里，小豚鼠从她的手中探出头来。
Meanwhile, paper towels stick out several inches from the gloves.
与此同时，纸巾从手套伸出几英寸。
So that there's absolutely no gap between her long-sleeve shirt and the gloves.
这样她的长袖衬衫和手套之间绝对没有缝隙。
[CHUCKLES] With a cute guinea pig.
[咯咯笑]还有一只可爱的豚鼠。
Exactly.
确切地。
It looks like she's taken the guinea pig hostage or something.
看起来她把豚鼠劫为人质什么的。
Pirecua is devoted to Luna still-- lets it run around her room, makes sure it's fed.
皮雷库亚仍然对卢娜很忠诚——让它在她的房间里跑来跑去，确保它有饭吃。
In third grade, she had a photo of Luna that she pasted onto a little hand-drawn cardboard frame with a little cardboard leg that she would prop up on her desk at the beginning of every school day facing her.
三年级时，她有一张卢娜的照片，她把它贴在一个手绘的小纸板框架上，还有一个小纸板腿，每天开始上课时，她都会把它放在桌子上，面对她。
But it just feels a little weird, because she can't pick it up or hold it or even really pet it.
但这感觉有点奇怪，因为她无法拿起或握住它，甚至无法真正抚摸它。
So it's kind of like, all the things-- all the reasons you'd want a guinea pig-- she can't have those.
所以这有点像，所有的事情——所有你想要一只豚鼠的原因——她都不能拥有这些。
All a parent wants to do this time of year is make a nice Christmas for their kids.
每年这个时候，父母想做的就是为孩子们度过一个美好的圣诞节。
Linda does not even like pets, isn't crazy about having animals in the house.
琳达甚至不喜欢宠物，也不热衷于在家里养动物。
But the Three Kings brought a guinea pig.
但三王带来了一只豚鼠。
The Three Kings is-- they do test.
三王是——他们进行测试。
They have tested me.
他们已经考验了我。
They test parents, I think.
我认为他们考验的是父母。
And not just parents.
不仅仅是父母。
Linda asked Pirecua on tape, did the Three Kings know she was allergic when they brought her that gift?
琳达在录音中问皮雷库亚，三王给她送礼物时是否知道她过敏？
Pirecua told her she had never even considered the question.
皮雷夸告诉她，她从未考虑过这个问题。
But aren't they supposed to be [SPANISH], like, wise men?
但他们不应该是[西班牙语]，比如智者吗？
If they did know that you were going to be allergic to Luna, why do you think they still brought her for you?
如果他们确实知道你会对卢娜过敏，你认为为什么他们仍然把她带来给你？
Well, they would probably also know that I would love her even if I did have allergies.
好吧，他们可能也会知道即使我确实有过敏症，我也会爱她。
And the Three Wise Men made the right call.
三智者做出了正确的决定。
Today on our radio program, this Christmas holiday weekend, we have stories of parents and others trying to make the holiday incredible for the people that they love, going to great and ridiculous lengths involving live animals, a deer, a sled, ancient reindeer bones, which lead only, sometimes, to the most magical Christmases.
今天，在我们的广播节目中，在这个圣诞节周末，我们讲述了父母和其他人的故事，他们试图让他们所爱的人度过一个不可思议的假期，他们不遗余力地涉及活体动物、鹿、雪橇、古老的驯鹿骨头，有时这些只会带来最神奇的圣诞节。
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Christmas in 3D.
第一幕，3D 圣诞节。
We all learn, at some point, that our parents make mistakes, and that can even-- and I know this will be a shock-- make them when they are trying their hardest at Christmas.
我们都知道，在某些时候，我们的父母会犯错误，这甚至可能——我知道这会令人震惊——让他们在圣诞节尽最大努力时犯下错误。
Maya Gurantz tells the story.
玛雅·古兰兹讲述了这个故事。
A quick warning for people listening with young children, this is a story about one family's Santa Claus traditions which may not be the same as yours.
对于那些带着小孩子一起听的人来说，这是一个关于一个家庭的圣诞老人传统的故事，这可能与您的不同。
Also, I should say, today's show is a rerun from a few years back, so everybody who you're hearing in the story is just a bit older now.
另外，我应该说，今天的节目是几年前的重播，所以你在故事中听到的每个人现在都老了一点。
Anyway, here's Maya.
无论如何，这里是玛雅。
My friend Colin Mutchler is 36.
我的朋友科林·穆奇勒 (Colin Mutchler) 36 岁。
And to this day, he talks about his Christmases as a kid.
直到今天，他还在谈论他小时候的圣诞节。
That's because his parents were determined to make the magic of Christmas come alive for their three kids-- Colin, Adam, and Erica.
这是因为他的父母决心让他们的三个孩子——科林、亚当和艾丽卡——感受到圣诞节的魔力。
But they went further than any parents I know.
但他们比我认识的任何父母都走得更远。
They wanted it to be real-- really real.
他们希望它是真实的——非常真实。
This wasn't an airbrushed "ho, ho, ho" Christmas but a darker, grittier one, like that one year when Colin was seven and his dad sent him to the garage for some firewood.
这不是一个美化的“嗬、嗬、嗬”圣诞节，而是一个更黑暗、更坚韧的圣诞节，就像科林七岁的那一年，他的父亲把他送到车库去拿一些柴火。
And I heard some bells, and it freaked me out.
我听到一些铃声，把我吓坏了。
And so I ran inside.
于是我跑了进去。
And I was like, oh, my god, you guys, like I swear, I heard some bells.
我当时想，哦，天啊，你们，我发誓，我听到了一些铃声。
And my dad was like, no way.
我爸爸的反应是，不可能。
Really?
真的吗？
And so I went-- we went back slowly outside.
于是我就走了——我们慢慢地回到外面。
And basically, we found this older man.
基本上，我们找到了这个老人。
Colin's younger brother Adam was there, too.
科林的弟弟亚当也在场。
This man had fallen in the backyard and slipped on the ice.
这个人在后院摔倒并在冰上滑倒。
But I was so young that it was like, who was this crazy man in our backyard?
但我当时太年轻了，我就想，我们后院这个疯子是谁？
And I sort of-- are you OK?
我有点——你还好吗？
Are you OK?
你还好吗？
And they brought him inside.
他们把他带了进去。
He was wearing a very old, rundown, weathered jacket.
他穿着一件非常旧、破旧、饱经风霜的夹克。
He said he had windburn.
他说他有风烧伤。
And could you dim the lights?
你能把灯调暗吗？
I've got snow blindness from the time in the North Pole, and there's a certain amount of glare that I can't deal with.
我在北极的时候就得了雪盲症，而且有一定程度的眩光让我无法应对。
So we dimmed the lights.
所以我们把灯调暗了。
He talked in a very soft-spoken-- not a whisper, but where he talked quietly enough that the whole room was silent, and you had to lean in.
他说话的声音非常轻——不是耳语，但他说话的声音足够小，以至于整个房间都很安静，你不得不靠过来。
And it was that weird, intimate-- you're just immersed in whatever he was saying.
这是那么奇怪、亲密——你只是沉浸在他所说的一切之中。
And he basically said, I'm Kris Kringle.
他基本上说，我是克里斯·克林格尔。
Adam was four, and he says this is his earliest memory of Christmas.
亚当四岁，他说这是他对圣诞节最早的记忆。
All the Mutchler kids have memories like this, probably because they talked about it all the time when they were little.
所有穆奇勒家的孩子都有这样的记忆，可能是因为他们小时候一直在谈论这件事。
Colin and Adam didn't think there was just one Santa Claus living at the North Pole.
科林和亚当不认为北极只有一个圣诞老人。
The Mutchler family had their own mythology with its own logic.
穆奇勒家族有自己的神话和逻辑。
There wasn't just one Santa, but a network of Santas all working together as Christmas helpers.
圣诞老人不只是一个，而是一个由圣诞老人组成的网络，他们一起作为圣诞节的帮手。
Kris Kringle was just one of them-- a working-man Santa.
克里斯·克林格尔只是其中之一——一位工人圣诞老人。
And just like a guy on a night shift from hell, he was exhausted.
就像一个从地狱上夜班的人一样，他筋疲力尽。
We were almost helping him.
我们几乎是在帮助他。
The dynamic was such that it was like, he was in a rough place, and we were trying to help him.
当时的气氛就像是，他处境艰难，而我们正在努力帮助他。
And so I think we talked with him for a bit and then put him on his way.
所以我想我们和他聊了一会儿然后就让他上路了。
Visitors like Kris appeared every couple of years or so in the band of woods dividing their house in Harrington Park, New Jersey, from a nearby golf course.
像克里斯这样的游客每隔几年就会出现在新泽西州哈林顿公园他们的房子与附近高尔夫球场之间的树林中。
Never the same guy, never in exactly the same place.
从来不是同一个人，从来都不是在同一个地方。
They'd be disheveled, bearded, and hoarse-voiced, abandoned by their skittish and surprisingly losable reindeer, and searching for the Mutchlers, whose home address they never quite figured out.
他们衣冠不整，留着胡须，声音嘶哑，被易怒的、令人惊讶的迷失的驯鹿抛弃，去寻找穆奇勒一家，但他们从未完全弄清楚他们的家庭住址。
The Mutchlers also had a family elf, Jeko, who the kids never saw but who apparently lived in the attic for a few weeks before Christmas.
穆奇勒夫妇还有一个家庭小精灵杰科，孩子们从未见过他，但圣诞节前他显然在阁楼里住了几周。
The kids would hear noises coming from upstairs-- hammering, walking.
孩子们会听到楼上传来敲击声、行走声。
And when Christmas was over, they'd find wood scraps in the attic from the gifts he'd made for them, proof that Jeko had been there.
圣诞节结束后，他们会在阁楼里找到他为他们做的礼物的木屑，证明杰科来过那里。
Both their father and grandfather grew up with Jeko.
他们的父亲和祖父都是和杰科一起长大的。
Their grandfather especially loved to tell scary stories about how mean Jeko could be.
他们的祖父特别喜欢讲杰科有多么卑鄙的可怕故事。
And so every Christmas, the family spent hours combing over the details of Jeko and their visitors, comparing them to previous Christmases, anticipating the next.
因此，每年圣诞节，一家人都会花几个小时梳理杰科和访客的细节，将他们与之前的圣诞节进行比较，并预测下一个圣诞节。
When you ask the Mutchler kids which Christmas visitor was the one who outdid the rest, there's no question-- Christmas Eve, 1984.
当你问穆奇勒家的孩子们，哪一位圣诞节访客比其他人更出色时，答案是毫无疑问的——1984 年的平安夜。
Colin was eight.
科林八岁。
Adam was five.
亚当五岁。
Erica was two.
艾丽卡两岁了。
The family was out taking their usual walk.
一家人像往常一样出去散步。
And on this night, they went down to the golf course.
这天晚上，他们去了高尔夫球场。
It was foggy and dark.
天雾蒙蒙，漆黑一片。
Here's Adam.
这是亚当。
And then in the distance, we see this silhouette of a shadow scampering from tree to tree-- and it's a golf course.
然后在远处，我们看到一个影子的轮廓从一棵树跳到另一棵树——这是一个高尔夫球场。
It's an open, wide spaces-- and looking like it doesn't-- they don't want us to know that they're there.
这是一个开放、宽敞的空间——但看起来并非如此——他们不想让我们知道他们在那里。
And my dad says, look, let's go find out who that is.
我爸爸说，看，我们去看看那人是谁。
And so we start walking faster to try to catch up with this guy.
于是我们开始走得更快，试图追上这个家伙。
When we come upon him, he's in this very worn, dirty Santa Claus suit that's this greenish-brown tint.
当我们见到他时，他穿着一套又破又脏的绿棕色圣诞老人套装。
And he introduces himself as Klaus Hoffer.
他介绍自己为克劳斯·霍弗。
And he's one of many-- the Santa Claus incarnations.
他是众多圣诞老人的化身之一。
Then he goes into a full explanation, but he definitely explains that-- I think we mentioned Kris Kringle.
然后他进行了完整的解释，但他明确地解释了这一点——我想我们提到了克里斯·克林格尔。
And it's like, oh, yeah.
就像，哦，是的。
I know Kris.
我认识克里斯。
Klaus had a worn sack and began pulling out presents.
克劳斯的袋子已经破旧了，他开始拿出礼物。
But the presents were very odd.
但礼物却很奇怪。
There was vegetables, a head of broccoli, an onion.
有蔬菜、一棵西兰花、一个洋葱。
And then he also, I think, gave us some bones.
然后我想他也给了我们一些骨头。
And that comes to the most important thing, is he broke out one bone in particular.
最重要的是，他特别折断了一根骨头。
And he said, this is one of the bones from the original Rudolph.
他说，这是原版鲁道夫的骨头之一。
I use it to call the reindeer.
我用它来召唤驯鹿。
Again, here's Colin and their sister Erica.
这是科林和他们的妹妹艾丽卡。
And literally, when he broke out bones and started blowing on them, we were like, oh my god.
从字面上看，当他打碎骨头并开始对着它们吹气时，我们就像，天哪。
This is crazy.
这太疯狂了。
It made no noise.
它没有发出任何声音。
We couldn't hear it.
我们听不到。
But he said it was a pitch that only the reindeer could hear.
但他说这是只有驯鹿才能听到的音调。
And when he talked about Rudolph, it wasn't like (SINGING) Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
当他谈到鲁道夫时，它不像（唱歌）红鼻子驯鹿鲁道夫。
It was like he was honoring the history of Rudolph as some reindeer that they all honored.
就好像他在向鲁道夫的历史致敬，就像他们都尊敬的驯鹿一样。
And the fact that he had some of these bones of Rudolph and was using them to call to the reindeer just-- it made sense to us.
事实上，他有一些鲁道夫的骨头，并用它们来召唤驯鹿——这对我们来说是有道理的。
It was like, that makes sense.
就像，这是有道理的。
The details were perfectly calibrated, as only people who know you as well as your parents can get just right.
细节经过完美校准，因为只有像你父母一样了解你的人才能做到恰到好处。
Here's Adam.
这是亚当。
And that's when it got scary.
就在那时，事情变得可怕了。
He offered all the kids.
他提供了所有的孩子。
And he said, I can only invite the kids, but do you guys want to come on the sleigh?
他说，我只能邀请孩子们，但是你们想坐雪橇来吗？
Do you want to come to the North Pole with me?
你想和我一起去北极吗？
And we just sat there frozen.
我们就呆呆地坐在那里。
Wow.
哇。
I could say, yes.
我可以说，是的。
The answer is no. The truth is, when some old man that you just met in the dark golf course on Christmas Eve actually asks me and my brother and my sister if we want to go with him somewhere that we have no idea-- while that might be the coolest thing of all time, it might also be the end of life as I know it.
答案是否定的。事实是，当平安夜你刚刚在黑暗的高尔夫球场遇到的某个老人实际上问我和我的兄弟姐妹是否想和他一起去某个我们不知道的地方时——虽然这可能是有史以来最酷的事情，但据我所知，这也可能是生命的终结。
Again, Erica, who, remember, was two at the time.
再说一次，艾丽卡，记得，当时她只有两岁。
And I remember screaming and not wanting to go.
我记得我尖叫着不想走。
I was just terrified.
我只是很害怕。
Actually, that invitation to the North Pole?
实际上，是去北极的邀请吗？
That never happened, at least not the way they remember it.
那从未发生过，至少不是他们记忆中的那样。
It's "Klus" not "Klaus" Child Yeah, yeah, "Klas."
是“Klus”而不是“Klaus”孩子 是的，是的，“Klas”。
"Klus." Maya Gurantz This is a recording from that Christmas Eve in 1984.
“克鲁斯。” Maya Gurantz 这是 1984 年圣诞夜的录音。
Erica, Adam, and Colin had just come back from meeting Klaus.
艾丽卡、亚当和科林刚刚与克劳斯会面回来。
On the recording, the kids seem happy and hopped up on adrenaline.
在录音中，孩子们看起来很高兴，肾上腺素飙升。
They talk about Klaus, but in the entire recording, never mention any invitation to the North Pole.
他们谈论克劳斯，但在整个录音中，从未提及任何前往北极的邀请。
What you hear instead is the grandfather suggesting, how would you like it if he had asked you to the North Pole?
相反，你听到的是祖父在暗示，如果他邀请你去北极，你会怎么样？
Then their father Glenn jumps in.
然后他们的父亲格伦插了进来。
Well, look.
嗯，看看。
You guys could have asked, and he would've taken you.
你们本来可以问，他就会带你去。
I had a feeling he was going to-- he would be willing to take somebody for a short trip.
我有一种预感，他会愿意带某人去一次短途旅行。
They were scared.
他们很害怕。
That's-- Woman They were scared--
那是——女人，他们害怕了——
Grandma.
奶奶。
Maya Gurantz That's how it seemed like a lot of it worked-- the Mutchler parents making suggestions and adding details, and then retelling it all year after year.
玛雅·古兰兹：很多事情看起来就是这样运作的——穆奇勒的父母提出建议，添加细节，然后年复一年地重述。
Christmas was a big topic of conversation, and the Mutchler parents encouraged their kids with the most exciting versions of what happened on those nights, to the point where the stories gained an unstoppable momentum.
圣诞节是人们谈论的一大话题，穆奇勒的父母用那些夜晚发生的最激动人心的版本来鼓励孩子们，以至于这些故事获得了不可阻挡的动力。
As the Mutchler kids got older, things, as they do, changed.
随着穆奇勒家的孩子长大，事情也发生了变化。
Each of the kids dealt with it differently.
每个孩子的处理方式都不同。
Both Colin and Erica say they knew, at a certain point, to not talk about Jeko and the others to people outside their closest circles.
科林和艾丽卡都表示，他们在某种程度上知道，不要向最亲近的圈子之外的人谈论杰科和其他人。
But Adam didn't get that at all.
但亚当根本不明白这一点。
Adam loved to tell a good story.
亚当喜欢讲好故事。
He couldn't not tell this one.
这件事他不能不说。
And he believed wholeheartedly in his experiences, even as a teenager in public school in New Jersey.
他全心全意地相信自己的经历，即使是在新泽西州公立学校的青少年时期。
And it had consequences.
它产生了后果。
When Adam was in fifth grade, he defended his stories about Klaus and Kris and the rest in front of his whole class.
当亚当五年级时，他在全班面前为自己关于克劳斯和克里斯以及其他故事的故事辩护。
It got so confrontational, with Adam telling the whole group how wrong they were, that the teacher ended up calling Adam's parents, telling them it had almost started a fight, and asking them to please tell Adam to stop talking about it.
事情变得如此对抗，亚当告诉全班同学他们错了，老师最终打电话给亚当的父母，告诉他们这几乎引发了一场争吵，并要求他们告诉亚当不要再谈论这件事。
Adam remembers many arguments like this well into middle school.
亚当在中学时还记得很多类似的争论。
People would call him an idiot or weird, and he would insist that these events were true.
人们会称他为白痴或怪人，但他会坚持认为这些事件是真实的。
He was there.
他就在那儿。
It was real.
这是真的。
You guys are crazy, not me.
你们疯了，不是我。
The next year, sixth grade, Adam was at his grandparents' house at Christmastime when his great aunt Blanche made some offhanded comment about which uncle played what part what year back when they were kids.
第二年，六年级，圣诞节期间，亚当在祖父母家，当时他的姨婆布兰奇随口评论了他们小时候哪位叔叔扮演了什么角色。
Adam walked himself through the logic of what she was saying.
亚当自己梳理了她所说的话的逻辑。
And he knew right then that his parents had lied to him.
那时他就知道他的父母对他撒了谎。
Not only did they lie to me, it was-- 13 years old, I had to deal with that as a social thing that I had done.
他们不仅对我撒了谎，而且在我 13 岁的时候，我必须把这当作我所做的一件社交事情来对待。
I had defended myself and told these stories.
我为自己辩护并讲述了这些故事。
In front of lots of people.
当着很多人的面。
Adam Mutchler Lots of people.
亚当·穆奇勒 很多人。
And to know that my parents were responsible for allowing me to perpetuate something that made me a liar and a laughingstock.
要知道我的父母有责任让我继续做一些让我成为骗子和笑柄的事情。
You were embarrassed.
你很尴尬。
Adam Mutchler I was very embarrassed.
亚当·穆奇勒 我感到非常尴尬。
Adam felt betrayed and was angry about it for years.
亚当感到自己被背叛了，并对此感到愤怒多年。
One year, he came home from college and accused his parents for being the reason he couldn't trust anyone enough to have a serious girlfriend-- not too different from the sorts of speeches lots of kids make to their parents at that age, except it was about Santa.
有一年，他大学毕业回家，指责父母让他无法信任任何人，无法拥有一个认真的女朋友——这与许多孩子在那个年龄段向父母发表的演讲没有太大不同，只不过是关于圣诞老人的。
Even he admits it was pretty extreme.
就连他也承认这是相当极端的。
I think it was-- Maya Gurantz So this one thing made you feel like you couldn't trust your parents even though they were trustworthy parents.
我认为是——玛雅·古兰兹（Maya Gurantz）所以这件事让你觉得你不能相信你的父母，即使他们是值得信赖的父母。
Well, for me, it was the intricacy and the planning of, like, you spent seven years, or 10 years, perpetrating a lie that was so deep and complex, whether it was hiring people, vintage suits, hunting people through the golf course and through the woods.
嗯，对我来说，这是错综复杂的和计划，就像，你花了七年或十年，编造了一个如此深刻和复杂的谎言，无论是雇佣人员、复古西装、在高尔夫球场和树林里猎杀人。
What are you, insane?
你怎么了，疯了吗？
This is diabolical.
这是恶魔般的。
For me, there was a big breakdown in the way I trusted people in my life that actually-- I think it carried on into my adult life.
对我来说，我对生活中的人的信任方式发生了很大的崩溃，我认为这种情况一直持续到我的成年生活中。
And even to this day, I don't 100% trust anyone anymore.
即使到了今天，我也不再百分百信任任何人。
Adam is 33 and can laugh about most of this now.
亚当已经 33 岁了，现在可以对大部分事情一笑了之了。
He sees what was great about what his parents did at Christmas.
他看到了父母在圣诞节所做的伟大的事情。
But he won't be doing anything like it, he says, when he has his own kids.
但他说，当他有了自己的孩子时，他不会做这样的事情。
And because of the way he reacted as a teenager, these childhood Christmases are still a touchy subject in his family.
由于他青少年时期的反应方式，这些童年圣诞节仍然是他家里的一个敏感话题。
When they talk about it, everybody's careful to keep things upbeat.
当他们谈论这件事时，每个人都小心翼翼地保持乐观的态度。
I wondered if the parents had any regrets for how they handled it, so I went to meet the Mutchlers.
我想知道父母是否对他们的处理方式感到后悔，所以我去见了穆奇勒夫妇。
[FOOTSTEPS] Laurie Mutchler Oh, you know my two boys--
[脚步声] Laurie Mutchler 噢，你了解我的两个儿子——
I do.
我愿意。
And-- Glenn and Laurie Mutchler live on a beautiful, quiet street.
格伦·穆奇勒 (Glenn Mutchler) 和劳里·穆奇勒 (Laurie Mutchler) 住在一条美丽、安静的街道上。
It's the kind of place where deer wander through the yards.
这是鹿在院子里漫步的地方。
A giant wreath hangs off the top of the Mutchler's beige clapboard house.
穆奇勒家米色隔板房的顶部悬挂着一个巨大的花环。
Christmas lights twinkle inside and outside.
圣诞灯在室内外闪烁。
We sit in the living room, where the mantle has been turned into an altar crowded with an assortment of spiritual icons-- Buddhas, Vishnu, a ceramic bust of Jesus, and two different portraits of Jerry Garcia.
我们坐在客厅里，那里的地幔已经变成了一个祭坛，里面摆满了各种各样的精神偶像——佛陀、毗湿奴、耶稣的陶瓷半身像和杰里·加西亚的两幅不同的肖像。
I was a hippie and did the whole nine yards, Glenn told me, on the West Coast in the '70s, though he doesn't like the word "hippie"-- thinks it's come to connote laziness, and he's anything but.
格伦告诉我，我是个嬉皮士，在 70 年代的西海岸跑了整整九码，尽管他不喜欢“嬉皮士”这个词——认为它意味着懒惰，而他绝不是这样。
And who knows-- Maya Gurantz We started talking about the elaborate Christmases the Mutchlers used to have for their kids, and I asked Laurie.
谁知道呢——玛雅·古兰兹（Maya Gurantz） 我们开始谈论穆奇勒夫妇过去为孩子们精心准备的圣诞节，我问劳里。
How did you get roped into all of this, Laurie?
劳里，你是怎么卷入这一切的？
Well, I-- as we were talking about this--
嗯，我——当我们谈论这个的时候——
That's a cynic.
这是一个愤世嫉俗的人。
Laurie Mutchler I'm going to talk--
劳里·穆奇勒（Laurie Mutchler）我要谈谈——
Listen to this.
听听这个。
Laurie Mutchler No, no, no. I want to talk--
劳里·穆奇勒 不，不，不。我想谈谈——
I don't know if you caught that, but he called me a cynic.
我不知道你是否明白，但他称我为愤世嫉俗者。
I'm not a cynic.
我不是一个愤世嫉俗的人。
We're just so excited about how you pulled this off.
我们对您的成功感到非常兴奋。
There is no pulling off.
没有拉断。
Something happened.
发生了一些事情。
People had an experience.
人们有过经历。
And then you have this thought called "somebody pulled something off."
然后你就会产生这样的想法：“有人成功了”。
I wasn't prepared for this.
我对此没有准备。
Decades after these Christmases, Glenn was refusing to admit he had anything to do with creating them.
这些圣诞节几十年后，格伦拒绝承认他与创造这些圣诞节有任何关系。
So the conjecture and all that stuff would really undermine the magic.
所以猜想和所有这些东西确实会破坏魔法。
In fact, all the details-- the, as you call them, the mechanics or as called, how'd you pull it off?
事实上，所有的细节——正如你所说的，机制或所谓的，你是如何实现的？
It happened.
它发生了。
That's the magic, and that's the secret.
这就是魔力，这就是秘密。
We went back and forth about this for more than 10 minutes.
我们就这个问题来来回回了10多分钟。
Here's my producer Robin having a go at it.
我的制片人罗宾正在尝试一下。
It would help to know if that's just an impossible thing for us to ask, because we have some questions about how it works, and I just would-- I'm wondering if we could--
知道这对我们来说是否是一件不可能的事情会有所帮助，因为我们对它如何运作有一些疑问，我只是想——我想知道我们是否可以——
Well, you could make something up.
好吧，你可以编造一些东西。
You could hypothesize.
你可以假设。
But that's you, because the magic is too powerful.
但那就是你，因为魔法太强大了。
And you want to go--
而你想去——
And did they have any regrets about when their kids learned the truth?
当他们的孩子得知真相后，他们有后悔吗？
I asked Glenn and Laurie about the time that Adam fought with his fifth grade class about the Mutchler Christmas stories.
我问格伦和劳里，有一次亚当和他的五年级班级就穆奇勒圣诞故事发生争执。
It seemed like it would have been a perfect moment to come clean.
这似乎是坦白的完美时刻。
They said after the school called them, they did talk to Adam, but they didn't tell him he was wrong.
他们说，在学校给他们打电话后，他们确实和亚当谈过，但他们没有告诉他他错了。
They didn't tell him the truth.
他们没有告诉他真相。
If anything, they encouraged him to believe the stories were real, saying, I was there.
如果说有什么不同的话，那就是他们鼓励他相信这些故事是真实的，并说，我就在那里。
You were there.
你当时就在那里。
Their only parental advice was, be more private about it.
他们唯一的父母建议是，保持私密性。
Stop talking about it at school.
别再在学校谈论这件事了。
Though, Laurie did come to worry that they should have handled it differently.
不过，劳里确实开始担心他们应该采取不同的处理方式。
I think, for me, I did really start to question whether we should be making such a big deal about it.
我想，对我来说，我确实开始质疑我们是否应该对此大惊小怪。
And I wanted to stop doing it.
我想停止这样做。
It definitely happened, in my mind.
在我看来，这确实发生了。
I did.
我做到了。
And as you can tell, Glenn's a very powerful force in our family.
正如你所知，格伦是我们家庭中非常强大的力量。
And he's a very powerful for it.
他在这方面非常有能力。
Yeah, he is.
是的，他是。
And even before this interview, it was like, you set up the ground rules about how we were going to have the interview.
甚至在这次采访之前，你就已经制定了关于我们如何进行采访的基本规则。
They're going to ask us, and we're not going to tell, right?
他们会问我们，而我们不会告诉，对吧？
Both Glenn and Laurie say they tried to make it right for Adam.
格伦和劳里都表示，他们试图为亚当做正确的事。
They had no idea how betrayed he felt until later.
直到后来，他们才知道他感受到了多么强烈的背叛。
Laurie says for a while, she didn't know what to do.
劳里说，有一段时间，她不知道该怎么办。
We talked about it a lot.
我们谈了很多。
We talked about the magic and the wanting it to-- Adam, can you see-- can you find a place where you see where it all came from-- it all came from good.
我们谈论了魔法和对它的渴望——亚当，你能看到吗——你能找到一个地方，让你看到这一切都是从哪里来的吗——这一切都来自美好。
It didn't come from lying.
这不是来自说谎。
It didn't come from tricking.
它不是来自欺骗。
We are not bad parents because we did that.
我们不是坏父母，因为我们这样做了。
Finally, Laurie tells me this story.
最后，劳里给我讲了这个故事。
It's an important one for her.
这对她来说很重要。
And before she starts, she says she knows Glenn doesn't want her to tell it.
在开始之前，她说她知道格伦不想让她说出来。
But that's not going to stop her.
但这并不能阻止她。
One Christmas Eve when Adam was in junior high school, Laurie went to his bedroom.
亚当上初中的一个圣诞夜，劳里去了他的卧室。
And I was giving him a goodnight kiss and hug and Merry Christmas.
我给了他一个晚安吻和拥抱，祝他圣诞快乐。
And he looked me straight in the eyes, and he said, you've got to tell me the truth.
他直视着我的眼睛，说，你必须告诉我真相。
Your son is looking you right in the eyes, saying, you've got to tell me the truth.
你的儿子直视着你的眼睛，说，你必须告诉我真相。
Were those rea-- did Santa really visit us?
圣诞老人真的来拜访我们了吗？
And in the back of my mind, it was Glenn's voice going, you never tell.
在我的脑海里，格伦的声音在回响，你永远也说不出来。
You never tell.
你永远不会告诉。
The magic.
魔法。
The magic.
魔法。
And I spewed all this magic.
我喷出了所有这些魔法。
And it's the magic, and it's the spirit.
这就是魔力，这就是精神。
And I went on and on.
我继续说下去。
And he would not let it down.
他不会失望的。
He just said, stop it.
他只是说，别说了。
Don't talk about that stuff.
别说那些事了。
Glenn talks about that stuff.
格伦谈到了那些事情。
You'll tell me the truth.
你会告诉我真相。
Tell me the truth.
告诉我真相。
And I don't even know what I exactly said, but I did let him know that it wasn't real.
我什至不知道我到底说了什么，但我确实让他知道这不是真的。
And we just cried, the two of us.
我们两个人都哭了。
[SOBBING] And it was really sad.
[抽泣]这真的很悲伤。
Because then, over the years, he would-- when he did say, later-- when he said, I can't believe that that was a parenting decision that you made, that you went to that extreme, he just-- it just hurt him.
因为多年来，当他确实说过时，当他说，我不敢相信这是你做出的养育决定，你走向了那么极端，他只是——这伤害了他。
And it was so weird because Colin and Erica had taken the same wonderful experience and held it as a wonderful experience, no matter what happened or what was real.
这很奇怪，因为科林和艾丽卡都经历了同样美妙的经历，并将其视为美妙的经历，无论发生了什么或真实的事情。
They could hold it as just a magical, wonderful moment.
他们可以将其视为一个神奇而美妙的时刻。
And he, somehow, couldn't.
但不知何故，他做不到。
And it made me really sad.
这让我非常难过。
Glenn understands that something went wrong with Adam.
格伦明白亚当出了问题。
My experiences like this with kids-- you do the best you can.
我和孩子们的经历就是这样——你尽力而为。
And sometimes, you do the right thing, and maybe you do the wrong thing when you thought you did the right thing.
有时，你做了正确的事，但当你认为自己做了正确的事时，也许你却做了错误的事。
There's a time when the kids are young, and you experience the magic through them.
孩子们还小的时候，你会通过他们体验到魔法。
And it's just so special to be around young kids and to be in that-- maybe you cheat a little bit, and you become-- you're living through them.
和年幼的孩子在一起真是太特别了——也许你作弊了一点，然后你就变成了——你正在经历他们。
[FOOTSTEPS] Maya Gurantz Glenn had been eager, from the moment we arrived at his house, to take us on a tour of Christmas past.
[脚步]玛雅·古兰兹·格伦从我们到达他家的那一刻起就渴望带我们回顾过去的圣诞节。
And after our interview, Glenn and Laurie head out with us for a walk.
采访结束后，格伦和劳里和我们一起出去散步。
We go up the street, passed through some trees, and onto the golf course.
我们沿着街道走，穿过一些树林，来到高尔夫球场。
It was darker than I had imagined it would be, barely illuminated by the ambient orange of nearby street lights.
天比我想象的要暗，几乎没有被附近橙色路灯照亮。
Mist clung to the rolling expanse of grass.
薄雾附着在连绵起伏的草地上。
Then Glenn does what he's clearly been itching to do all night-- gives us the play-by-play from his finest hour, the night Klaus Hoffer came to visit.
然后格伦做了他整晚都渴望做的事情——向我们展示了他最精彩的时刻，即克劳斯·霍弗来访的那天晚上的比赛实况。
Get away!
逃离！
Stay away!
远离！
Who is it?
是谁？
I'm looking for the Mucklers.
我正在寻找穆克勒夫妇。
And then the kids would say, no, the Mutchlers?
然后孩子们会说，不，穆奇勒一家？
Glenn hunches down and reenacts Klaus Hoffer's disappearance into the distance.
格伦弯下腰，重现了克劳斯·霍弗消失在远处的情景。
It's kind of like this and like this and like this and like this.
有点像这样，这样，这样，这样。
He lopes along.
他一路小跑。
He's happy.
他很高兴。
Magic is Glenn's strength--
魔法是格伦的强项——
--into the darkness-- Maya Gurantz --and his blind spot.
——进入黑暗——玛雅·古兰兹——和他的盲点。
And we're all standing there going, like, oh, my god.
我们都站在那里，就像，哦，天哪。
Did that really happen?
这真的发生了吗？
It was like that.
就是这样。
It was perfect.
太完美了。
It was perfect.
太完美了。
Maya Gurantz.
玛雅·古兰兹.
She's the co-host of the culture and politics podcast The Sauce.
她是文化和政治播客“The Sauce”的联合主持人。
Coming up, typecast.
即将到来，类型转换。
Typecast-- do you hear me-- as a reindeer in a Christmas pageant, the tail-twitching injustice of it.
类型转换——你听到了吗——作为圣诞盛会上的驯鹿，尾巴抽动的不公正。
That's in a minute, from Chicago Public Radio, when our program continues
稍后，芝加哥公共广播电台将继续我们的节目
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week, on our program, of course, we choose a theme, bring you different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，每周，在我们的节目中，我们都会选择一个主题，为您带来有关该主题的不同类型的故事。
Today's show for the holidays, "Lights, Camera, Christmas"-- stories of people trying to throw a nice Christmas for those they love.
今天的节日节目“灯光、相机、圣诞节”——人们试图为他们所爱的人过一个美好圣诞节的故事。
We've arrived at Act Two of our program, Act Two, Deer in the Footlights.
我们已经到了节目的第二幕，第二幕，《脚光下的鹿》。
So Connie grew up on this ranch outside of a little town in Utah called Woodruff.
康妮在犹他州伍德拉夫小镇外的牧场长大。
And maybe you've never been to Woodruff.
也许您从未去过伍德拉夫。
It's-- let me tell you about it.
让我告诉你吧。
You'll have to edit this now, because I'm going to say it like I always say it.
你现在必须编辑它，因为我会像往常一样说。
OK.
好的。
Connie Rex You go through town.
康妮·雷克斯 你穿过城镇。
There's a church on the right.
右边有一座教堂。
There's an old school on the left.
左边有一座老学校。
You get down to the crossroads, and there's a half-assed store on one side and the post office on the other side.
你走到十字路口，一侧是一家半途而废的商店，另一侧是邮局。
That's it-- the whole town.
就是这样——整个城镇。
Maybe 250 people, she says.
Maybe 250 people, she says.
Maybe fewer.
也许更少。
And the basic facts of her childhood are the kinds of things that lots of little girls only read about in storybooks.
她童年的基本事实是许多小女孩只能在故事书中读到的东西。
During the summer, Connie and her two sisters, they would get up.
夏天的时候，康妮和她的两个姐妹会起床。
They'd have some food.
他们会有一些食物。
And they would spend the whole day, she says, on their own horses, riding far and wide together.
她说，他们会整天骑着自己的马，一起驰骋远方。
And when they were little, they got a baby deer-- a baby deer of their very own-- who ended up a part of Christmas at their elementary school in a way that, I think, probably very rarely happens with deers and elementary schools and Christmases.
当他们还小的时候，他们养了一只小鹿——一只属于他们自己的小鹿——最后在他们的小学度过了圣诞节，我想，这种情况在鹿、小学和圣诞节中可能很少发生。
So the story that I want you to tell is, I want to know how a deer ended up on the stage as part of your school's Christmas pageant when you were a kid.
所以我想让你讲的故事是，我想知道当你还是个孩子的时候，一只鹿是如何登上舞台的，作为你们学校圣诞游行的一部分。
And I guess you should explain how you even ended up with a deer in the first place.
我想你应该首先解释一下你是如何最终得到一只鹿的。
Do you remember when you first saw the deer?
你还记得第一次看到鹿是什么时候吗？
Oh, yeah.
哦，是的。
Yeah.
是的。
We were all on our horses, and there was a doe that had just had a baby.
我们都骑在马上，还有一只刚刚生了孩子的母鹿。
It was, I'd say, maybe two or three days old.
我想说，可能已经有两三天了。
Well, we chased the doe off and took the deer-- took the fawn.
好吧，我们赶走了母鹿并带走了鹿——带走了小鹿。
Did you run off the mom hoping to get the baby?
你是否为了得到孩子而逃离了妈妈？
Yeah.
是的。
Oh, yeah, and brought it home.
哦，对了，还把它带回家了。
Let me tell you what.
让我告诉你什么。
We never done it again, because my dad was really pissed-- just livid.
我们再也没有这样做过，因为我爸爸真的很生气——非常生气。
He lit into us like you can't believe.
他对我们的攻击让你难以置信。
And what was his argument?
他的论点是什么？
What was the problem with bringing in this deer?
引进这只鹿有什么问题吗？
Nature should be left to nature.
自然就应该交给自然。
Why did we want to run that deer off-- that mother-- when she was perfectly capable of raising this fawn and taking care of it?
当那只鹿——那个母亲——完全有能力抚养和照顾这只小鹿时，我们为什么要赶走她呢？
Why did we-- what give us the right to do with it, to take Mother Nature's course away from her.
为什么我们——是什么赋予我们这样做的权利，改变大自然母亲的轨迹。
How big is a fawn when it's that little?
小鹿那么小，能有多大呢？
Is it the size of a big dog?
有大狗那么大吗？
Yeah, it'd be about the size of a big dog-- maybe not a real big dog.
是的，它大约有一只大狗那么大——也许不是真正的大狗。
And they're light.
而且它们很轻。
It couldn't have weighed any more than, I'm going to say, 25, 35 pounds.
我想说，它的重量不会超过 25、35 磅。
And we put it on our horses-- put it across the saddle and packed it back to the house.
我们把它放在马身上——放在马鞍上，然后把它带回屋里。
Oh, we was tickled.
哦，我们被逗乐了。
We really thought we'd done something good.
我们真的以为我们做了一些好事。
And so you raised it.
所以你提出了它。
How do you feed it?
你怎么喂它？
You put a nipple-- a lamb nipple-- on a pop bottle-- on the end of a pop bottle.
你把一个奶嘴——羊奶嘴——放在汽水瓶上——放在汽水瓶的末端。
And they suck it.
他们很糟糕。
And so we raised him that summer.
所以那年夏天我们抚养了他。
And then, of course, he lost his spots.
然后，当然，他失去了自己的位置。
Did you give it a name?
你给它起名字了吗？
Connie Rex Well, we called him Bambi.
康妮·雷克斯 好吧，我们叫他小鹿斑比。
Very original.
非常原创。
OK.
好的。
Connie Rex Yeah, very original.
康妮雷克斯 是的，非常原创。
So was he a good pet?
那么他是一个好宠物吗？
Connie Rex Oh, yeah.
康妮雷克斯哦，是的。
Yeah.
是的。
He was a lot of fun.
他很有趣。
We never had a collar or anything on him, never did break him to lead.
我们从来没有给他戴项圈或任何东西，也从来没有让他失去领先地位。
We just put our hands on his-- what we call their withers, where their neck goes right into their shoulders.
我们只是把手放在他的——我们称之为马肩隆的地方，他们的脖子正好伸进肩膀。
And he'd walk by you.
他会从你身边走过。
So we could walk him-- damn near any place we wanted to go, he'd go.
这样我们就可以遛他——该死的靠近我们想去的任何地方，他都会去。
So that year, the year we got him-- that was the year that they done the play.
所以那一年，我们得到他的那一年——那是他们完成这部戏的那一年。
And they took a balloon, and blowed it up about the size of a golf ball, and put it on his nose.
他们拿了一个气球，把它吹成高尔夫球大小，然后把它放在他的鼻子上。
And he stood there with this red thing on his nose all during the play.
整场比赛他都站在那儿，鼻子上有这个红色的东西。
Hmm.
唔。
Connie Rex And if I remember right, the story just, more or less, centered around Santa Claus being sad because he couldn't get around.
康妮·雷克斯：如果我没记错的话，这个故事或多或少是围绕圣诞老人因为无法出行而感到悲伤的。
Well, it sounds like "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer," where his nose is what guides them.
嗯，听起来就像“红鼻子驯鹿鲁道夫”，他的鼻子引导着他们。
The light from his nose is what guides them to where they need to go.
他鼻子发出的光引导他们到达他们需要去的地方。
I think so.
我想是的。
I think that's what it was.
我想就是这样。
And I can remember that the hall was just crowded.
我记得大厅里很拥挤。
Everybody knew that deer was going to be in there, and so everybody come to watch it.
每个人都知道那里会有鹿，所以每个人都来看它。
Oh, really?
哦真的吗？
He was the star attraction of the show?
他是节目中最吸引人的明星？
He brought the crowd?
他带来了人群？
Oh, yeah.
哦，是的。
Oh, yeah.
哦，是的。
They still talk about that play.
他们还在谈论那场戏。
I don't think they ever did top that play.
我认为他们从未在这场比赛中表现出色。
How could you?
你怎么可以？
Oh, he was on stage for the whole show.
哦，整个演出他都在舞台上。
He probably stood there for a good two hours.
他大概在那里站了整整两个小时。
So we spent the whole night standing there by the deer.
于是我们整个晚上都站在鹿旁边。
He'd look out in the crowd and look everybody over.
他会在人群中向外张望，审视每个人。
You could see his ears moving back and forth.
你可以看到他的耳朵来回移动。
But we'd pet him or scratch him on the neck.
但我们会抚摸他或抓他的脖子。
What did he do when they applauded?
当他们鼓掌时他做了什么？
I would think that for an animal that must have been so strange-- the noise that would come from that.
我认为对于一种动物来说，它发出的噪音一定是非常奇怪的。
Nothing.
没有什么。
He stood there.
他站在那里。
That's when he'd wiggle his tail.
这时候他就会摇动尾巴。
And his ears would go back and forth.
他的耳朵会来回转动。
Now, your dad, who had been against bringing in a wild animal the whole time, do you remember what his reaction was to the play?
现在，你的爸爸一直反对引进野生动物，你还记得他对这部剧的反应吗？
I can remember him saying that it was really a nice play and he was glad that the deer had a part in it.
我记得他说这真是一场精彩的表演，他很高兴鹿参与其中。
But I remember when we started to brand, we just begged Dad to let us castrate him, and he wouldn't do it.
但我记得当我们开始做品牌时，我们只是求爸爸让我们阉割他，他不肯这么做。
And as a kid, I just-- oh, I was upset.
当我还是个孩子的时候，我只是——哦，我很沮丧。
Wait, why did you want your dad to castrate him?
等等，你为什么要让你爸爸阉割他？
So he'd stay home.
所以他就待在家里。
It's just like a dog.
它就像一只狗。
You take a dog, and if you've got a male dog, and you don't want that dog to go-- I call it tramping-- all over the countryside, you castrate him.
你养一只狗，如果你有一只公狗，而你不想让那只狗——我称之为流浪——遍布乡村，你就阉割它。
We knew that if Dad had let us castrate him, we would have had him forever.
我们知道，如果爸爸让我们阉割他，我们就会永远拥有他。
But no. So he wouldn't let us castrate him.
但没有。所以他不让我们阉割他。
Over the next year, Bambi grew up, developed antlers.
第二年，小鹿斑比长大了，长出了鹿角。
Connie and her sisters liked to touch the velvet on his antlers, she says.
康妮和她的姐妹们喜欢触摸他鹿角上的天鹅绒，她说。
And Bambi started acting differently.
小鹿斑比开始采取不同的行动。
Sometimes, he'd just wander away for days.
有时，他会一连几天都在外面徘徊。
And when hunting season rolled around, the girls begged their dad to lock up Bambi somewhere on their property.
当狩猎季节到来时，女孩们请求她们的父亲将斑比锁在她们财产的某个地方。
But their dad said, no, that wasn't right.
但他们的父亲说，不，那是不对的。
And they didn't ask twice, she says.
她说，他们没有问两次。
Fortunately, because it was a small town, and especially after the Christmas play, everybody in the valley there knew about Bambi.
幸运的是，因为那是一个小镇，尤其是在圣诞节演出之后，山谷里的每个人都知道小鹿斑比。
The girls would take him into town sometimes in a car.
有时女孩们会开车带他进城。
And people would come up to them on the street and pet him.
人们会在街上走到他们身边并抚摸他。
And they took special precautions during hunting season so everybody would recognize him.
他们在狩猎季节采取了特殊的预防措施，这样每个人都能认出他。
We had a big red scarf on him.
我们给他戴了一条大红领巾。
And then we had a sheep bell, which is just a little smaller than a cow bell.
然后我们有一个羊铃，它只比牛铃小一点。
And we'd painted this sheep bell red.
我们把这个羊铃漆成红色。
And then, of course, when fall came-- late fall-- why, he took off.
然后，当然，当秋天到来时——深秋——为什么，他起飞了。
And about 10 miles away, some guy, I guess they said-- I never did ever talk to the guy, but they said he drove right up to him and shot him.
大约 10 英里外，有一个人，我猜他们说——我从来没有和那个人说过话，但他们说他径直开到他面前，开枪射杀了他。
No, no. No, he wouldn't run because he was desensitized.
不，不。不，他不会跑，因为他已经麻木了。
He wasn't afraid of people.
他不怕人。
When the deer was killed, what did your dad say?
当鹿被杀时，你爸爸说什么？
Just told us that that's just the way it was, and that's what we got for bringing him home.
只是告诉我们事情就是这样，这就是我们把他带回家的结果。
He told us then-- he said, that's what happens when you mess with Mother Nature.
然后他告诉我们——他说，这就是当你扰乱大自然时会发生的事情。
Hmm.
唔。
Connie Rex So I guess, you know, if there's a moral to the story, is you don't mess with something that's wild.
康妮·雷克斯：所以我想，你知道，如果这个故事有什么寓意的话，那就是不要惹恼那些疯狂的东西。
You just leave it be.
你就随它去吧。
Oh, really?
哦真的吗？
Do you think your dad was right?
你觉得你爸爸说得对吗？
I think he was right.
我认为他是对的。
At the time, I didn't.
当时，我没有。
But looking back on it now-- I'm still pissed at that guy that shot him.
但现在回想起来——我仍然对那个开枪打死他的人很生气。
Oh, sure, he did.
哦，当然，他做到了。
He'd a had to have known.
He'd a had to have known.
Well, in fact, I heard that he did-- that he knew.
嗯，事实上，我听说他知道——他知道。
I hope he enjoyed eating him, the son of a bitch.
我希望他喜欢吃他这个王八蛋。
You better edit that out.
你最好把它编辑掉。
[SCOFFS]
[嘲笑]
No, I'd like to leave that in.
不，我想把它留在里面。
Is that OK?
可以吗？
No, that's fine.
不，没关系。
Ira Glass I just don't understand how he could shoot him knowing that he was your pet.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：我只是不明白他怎么能在知道他是你的宠物的情况下开枪射击他。
Like he knew you guys, right?
就像他认识你们一样，对吧？
Yeah, yeah.
是啊是啊。
And thinking back, I would imagine he'd probably-- what, 19 years old?
回想起来，我想他可能会——什么，19 岁？
Smart-ass teenager is what he was.
聪明的少年就是他。
I can remember we cried.
我记得我们哭了。
Mother cried.
妈妈哭了。
And Dad was pissed.
爸爸很生气。
He thought that was pretty low for somebody to do that to an animal, especially when he knew that it was ours.
他认为有人对动物这样做是相当低的，特别是当他知道那是我们的时候。
Did you blame yourselves?
你有责怪自己吗？
Connie Rex Yes, I did.
康妮·雷克斯 是的，我做到了。
Yes.
是的。
The end result would have probably been the same, but he probably would have lived-- he'd have probably got another year or two before he'd have got shot.
最终的结果可能是一样的，但他可能会活下来——在被枪杀之前，他可能还能再活一两年。
You mean if you had left him with his mom?
You mean if you had left him with his mom?
Yeah.
是的。
Oh, yeah.
哦，是的。
Yeah.
是的。
Ira Glass It's funny.
艾拉·格拉斯 这很有趣。
I thought we were going to have a sweet little sentimental Christmas story here, but now I feel so sad.
我以为我们会在这里讲一个甜蜜感伤的圣诞故事，但现在我感到很悲伤。
Yeah, it did end up sad.
是的，最后确实很悲伤。
And you know, if I was you, and you was doing the story, I think maybe I'd take a little liberty with it and not burden kids with what happened to him.
你知道，如果我是你，而你正在写这个故事，我想也许我会采取一点自由，而不是让发生在他身上的事情给孩子们带来负担。
Oh, like it was just a really nice play.
哦，就像这是一场非常精彩的比赛。
And not tell anything that happens afterwards.
And not tell anything that happens afterwards.
Yeah, yeah.
是啊是啊。
Ira Glass But then if you do that version of the story, then in the argument between you guys and your dad, you win, because everything works out happily ever after.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）但是，如果你按照这个版本演故事，那么在你们和你爸爸之间的争论中，你就赢了，因为从此一切都会幸福快乐。
Well, I think at Christmastime, maybe we should win.
好吧，我想在圣诞节期间，也许我们应该赢。
All right.
好的。
Well, let's do take two.
好吧，我们就拿两个吧。
So after the play, what happened to the deer?
那么戏结束后，小鹿怎么样了呢？
Oh, we took him home.
哦，我们带他回家了。
The play was always put on on Christmas Eve.
这出戏总是在平安夜上演。
So we went home, 'cause it would have been, like, 10 o'clock.
于是我们就回家了，因为那时大概已经十点了。
And of course, Santa Claus was going to come, and we was all excited.
当然，圣诞老人要来了，我们都很兴奋。
And so in this version of the story, you guys live happily ever after, right?
那么在这个版本的故事中，你们从此过上了幸福的生活，对吗？
Yeah, right.
是的，对。
Yeah.
是的。
And then I vividly remember the next morning after.
然后我清楚地记得第二天早上。
We asked if we could bring him in.
We asked if we could bring him in.
And they-- Mother and Dad-- both said yes.
他们——妈妈和爸爸——都答应了。
So we put a lot of Christmas bows on him, and we let him stay in the house until he wandered into Mother's plants.
所以我们在他身上放了很多圣诞蝴蝶结，让他呆在房子里，直到他走进母亲的植物。
And then he had to go out.
然后他不得不出去。
Connie Rex talking to me from the ranch where she grew up outside Woodruff, Utah.
康妮·雷克斯在犹他州伍德拉夫郊外长大的牧场里与我交谈。
That interview was recorded back in 2012.
That interview was recorded back in 2012.
I am really sad to say right here that Connie Rex died last year.
我真的很遗憾地在这里说，康妮·雷克斯去年去世了。
Act Three, Replacement Claus.
Act Three, Replacement Claus.
So we end today's show about people who go above and beyond to make Christmas special with the man who does that more than anybody, the gift givingest person there is.
因此，今天的节目讲述了那些不遗余力让圣诞节变得特别的人们，我们以比任何人都做得更多的人、最送礼物的人来结束今天的节目。
He operates on a global scale.
He operates on a global scale.
I'm talking, of course, about Santa Claus.
I'm talking, of course, about Santa Claus.
He is a man who wants for nothing.
He is a man who wants for nothing.
That is, until things change for him.
That is, until things change for him.
Jonathan Goldstein explains.
乔纳森·戈德斯坦解释道。
Each life was a lonely tumble down a cold, dark chimney, falling, falling, then blackness.
每一个生命都是孤独地从寒冷、黑暗的烟囱里跌落，坠落、坠落，然后是黑暗。
These were Santa's thoughts as he prepared snicker doodles in the kitchen.
这是圣诞老人在厨房里准备窃笑涂鸦时的想法。
In the other room, the elves performed Christmas tunes and do-si-doed.
在另一个房间里，精灵们演奏着圣诞曲子并做着“do-si-doed”。
Carefully, he carried the tray of sweets into the living room.
他小心翼翼地端着托盘，走进客厅。
His wife, Martha, had been dead five years now, and he was alone-- alone in a house full of elves.
他的妻子玛莎已经去世五年了，他独自一人——独自一人住在一个充满精灵的房子里。
Jesus had dignity, apostles.
使徒们，耶稣有尊严。
All he had was high blood pressure and a communal toilet the size of a cereal bowl.
他所拥有的只是高血压和一个麦片碗大小的公共厕所。
He sat down on the couch and watched the elves dance to "Feliz Navidad." Jingles broke from the group of dancing elves and approached him.
他坐在沙发上，看着精灵们随着“Feliz Navidad”起舞。叮当从一群跳舞的精灵中挣脱出来，向他走来。
You're killing yourself with the doodles, Jingles said, slamming down his gin rickey.
“你用这些涂鸦来自杀，”金格斯一边说，一边猛地喝下他的杜松子酒。
And lately, he'd been on Santa's case to stop overeating, to get out of the house, and to get himself a girlfriend.
最近，他一直在为圣诞老人辩护，要求他停止暴饮暴食，走出家门，并给自己找个女朋友。
Glenda, the good witch of the North, lived only a few miles away and had just been left by her boyfriend, a walrus hunter who looked somewhat like a walrus himself.
格伦达是北方的善良女巫，住在几英里外，刚刚被她的男友抛弃，她的男友是一位海象猎人，看上去有点像海象。
Glenda's into the Wilford Brimley type, said Jingles, so you've totally got a chance.
格伦达喜欢威尔福德·布里姆利类型，金格斯说，所以你完全有机会。
Glenda?
格伦达？
Said Santa.
圣诞老人说。
But she's so sparkly.
但她却是那么的闪闪发光。
I miss Martha, Santa said quietly.
I miss Martha, Santa said quietly.
He knew this was true, though not the entire truth.
他知道这是真的，尽管不是全部事实。
There was missing, of course, but there was also fear.
当然，有思念，但也有恐惧。
Look, I miss Martha, too, said Jingles, but it's time to move on.
听着，我也想念玛莎，金格斯说，但是时候继续前进了。
She was the only gal for me, said Santa.
She was the only gal for me, said Santa.
Jingles put his tiny hand on Santa's knee.
叮当把他的小手放在圣诞老人的膝盖上。
To be frank, Jingles said, I always thought your relationship a little narcissistic.
说实话，金格斯说，我一直觉得你们的关系有点自恋。
Mrs. Claus was like your twin but with bosoms.
克劳斯太太就像你的双胞胎，但有胸部。
Did you plan your outfits together?
Did you plan your outfits together?
We just had the same taste, Santa sobbed.
We just had the same taste, Santa sobbed.
"Jingle Bell Rock" started up on the squeezebox, and Santa took that as his cue to head to bed.
挤压盒里响起了《Jingle Bell Rock》，圣诞老人以此为提示去睡觉了。
He never could stand rock-and-roll Christmas songs.
他永远无法忍受摇滚圣诞歌曲。
He liked Christmas songs, and he liked rock and roll.
他喜欢圣诞歌曲，也喜欢摇滚乐。
He just didn't like them together.
他只是不喜欢他们在一起。
Martha had felt the exact same way.
玛莎也有同样的感觉。
On their first-year anniversary, Martha had presented him with a pen-- the fancy kind that came in a box.
在他们的一周年纪念日上，玛莎送给他一支钢笔——那种装在盒子里的别致的钢笔。
Oh, for the love of Saint Nicholas, Santa had said, what good is a pen?
哦，为了圣尼古拉斯的爱，圣诞老人说过，一支笔有什么用呢？
I'll just end up losing it.
我最终会失去它。
Save your money, and buy yourself something nice, or let me buy for you.
省点钱，给自己买点好东西，或者让我给你买。
That would make me most happy of all.
这将使我最高兴。
For a man famous for his giving, Santa was terrible at receiving.
对于一个以给予而闻名的人来说，圣诞老人在接受方面却很糟糕。
Martha took the pen back and apologized, and that was the end of the gifts.
玛莎收回笔并道歉，礼物就这样结束了。
After she had died, and Santa was cleaning out her stuff, in a jewelry box filled with the old love letters he'd sent during their courtship, he found the pen.
她死后，圣诞老人正在清理她的东西，在一个装满了他在求爱期间寄出的旧情书的珠宝盒里，他找到了那支笔。
He clutched it on the edge of the bed and wept.
他把它放在床边哭了起来。
Jingles took it upon himself to just go ahead and arrange a date for Santa unbidden.
叮当独自一人主动为圣诞老人安排了一次约会。
Glenda's expecting you at 8:00, said Jingles, sidling up to him in the reindeer stable one morning.
一天早上，金格斯在驯鹿厩里侧身靠近他，说道，格伦达将于 8:00 等你。
And do me a favor.
帮我一个忙。
Trim your whiskers and put on your Spanx.
修剪胡须并穿上紧身裤。
As instructed, Santa appeared at Glenda's doorstep that evening, a paper bag of roasted chestnuts in his hand.
那天晚上，圣诞老人按照指示出现在格伦达家门口，手里拿着一纸袋烤栗子。
Come on in, Mr. Claus, said Glenda, with a sweep of her arm.
进来吧，克劳斯先生，格伦达挥舞着手臂说道。
She was dressed all in white, and the house smelled of fresh gingerbread.
她一身白衣，屋子里弥漫着新鲜姜饼的味道。
Santa observed, with a smile, that there were several magic wands, gold and sparkly, in the umbrella rack.
圣诞老人微笑着发现伞架上有几根金光闪闪的魔法棒。
For most of the evening, they sat by the hearth and made clumsy conversation about the loneliness of living at the North Pole, mostly.
晚上的大部分时间，他们坐在炉边，笨拙地谈论着生活在北极的孤独。
Unless I absolutely have to, I don't even bother going outside, said Glenda.
除非绝对必要，否则我什至懒得出去，格伦达说。
And when the cable goes out, it is out, said Santa.
圣诞老人说，当电缆熄灭时，它就熄灭了。
After a beat of silence, Glenda looked at him, a smile across her face.
一阵沉默后，格伦达看着他，脸上露出微笑。
Is this a good conversation?
Is this a good conversation?
she asked.
她问道。
Santa laughed and assured her it was.
圣诞老人笑着向她保证是的。
They played cribbage, drank eggnog, and watched the snow outside the window fall.
他们玩纸牌，喝蛋酒，看着窗外的雪花飘落。
And in the vestibule before leaving, Glenda placed her hand on Santa's shoulder and kissed him right beneath his eye.
离开前在前厅，格伦达把手放在圣诞老人的肩膀上，在他的眼睛下方亲吻了他。
As she did, Santa felt as though his chest were a chimney.
当她这样做时，圣诞老人感觉自己的胸口就像一个烟囱。
And inside, a sleeping dove was stirring awake.
里面，一只沉睡的鸽子正在苏醒。
They made a date for the following weekend.
他们约好了下周末的约会。
And just before he left, Glenda gave him a container of cranberry mini muffins she'd baked.
就在他离开之前，格伦达给了他一盒她烤的蔓越莓迷你松饼。
Santa told her he could not accept such a gift, at which point, she thrust it into his chest with surprising force.
圣诞老人告诉她他不能接受这样的礼物，此时她以惊人的力量将它塞进他的胸口。
Take it, she said.
拿着吧，她说。
On the sleigh ride home, Santa realized, with mixed feelings, that he'd hardly thought of Martha the whole night.
在乘雪橇回家的路上，圣诞老人心情复杂地意识到，他整个晚上几乎都没有想到玛莎。
When he showed up the following Saturday, Glenda was all apologies.
当他下周六出现时，格伦达满脸歉意。
Change of plans, she said, stopping him in the vestibule.
计划有变，她说，并在前厅拦住了他。
Sheila's here-- flew in this afternoon from Tampa.
希拉在这里——今天下午从坦帕飞过来。
Sheila?
希拉？
Asked Santa.
圣诞老人问道。
A.k.a.
又名
The Wicked Witch of the East, she said quickly-- my old college roommate.
东方邪恶女巫，她很快说道——我的大学老室友。
College?
大学？
asked Santa.
圣诞老人问道。
For witches?
为了女巫？
She's always showing up like this, Glenda went on.
她总是这样出现，格伦达继续说道。
Every time there's trouble in Tampa, I get a knock at the door.
每当坦帕遇到麻烦时，我都会有人来敲门。
In the den, Sheila was lying on the couch in a kittenish tangle, all in black and smoking what smelled like European cigarettes.
在书房里，希拉像小猫一样乱七八糟地躺在沙发上，一身黑衣服，抽着一股欧洲香烟的味道。
She studied Santa while playing with her hair.
她一边玩弄头发，一边研究圣诞老人。
Hey, Chubs, she said.
嘿，查布斯，她说。
I told you to smoke outside, said Glenda, with exasperation.
我告诉过你到外面抽烟，格伦达恼怒地说。
She went into the kitchen to get some fruitcake as Santa made his way over to the couch.
当圣诞老人走向沙发时，她走进厨房去拿一些水果蛋糕。
Sheila didn't move.
希拉没有动。
So he squeezed into the corner, her black stocking toes touching his thigh.
于是他挤到了角落里，她的黑丝袜脚趾碰到了他的大腿。
So what do you do, fatso?
那你怎么办，胖子？
Santa began to stammer.
圣诞老人开始结巴起来。
Oh, I-- relax, [BLEEP] hole.
哦，我——放松，[BLEEP]洞。
I know who you are.
我知道你是谁。
You're famous, she said, taking the last cookie from the serving tray.
你很出名，她说，从托盘上取出最后一块饼干。
So how do you know Glenda?
那么你是怎么认识格伦达的呢？
Oh, we're neighbors, said Santa.
哦，我们是邻居，圣诞老人说。
And you buy this good witch bull [BLEEP]?
你买了这头好的女巫公牛 [BLEEP]？
she asked in a whisper.
她低声问道。
A downward turn in the black arts, and all of a sudden, she's moved to the North Pole and rebranded herself a good witch.
黑魔法的衰退，突然之间，她搬到了北极，并把自己重新定位为一个好女巫。
Whoever heard of a good witch?
谁听说过好女巫？
Am I right?
我说得对吗？
It's an oxymoron, like baby grand or jolly fat man.
这是一个矛盾的说法，就像小大人或快乐的胖子一样。
Everyone knows fat men are sad.
大家都知道胖子很伤心。
Look at you-- totally depressed.
看看你——完全沮丧。
Am I right?
我说得对吗？
I mean, maybe a little, Santa said.
我的意思是，也许有一点，圣诞老人说。
My wife recently died.
我的妻子最近去世了。
And what's with this Glenda [BLEEP]?
这个格伦达[BLEEP]是怎么回事？
interrupted Sheila.
希拉打断道。
Her name's Linda.
她的名字叫琳达。
Often, when Santa didn't know what else to say, he'd break into a jolly-sounding chuckle.
通常，当圣诞老人不知道还能说什么时，他会突然发出一声听起来很高兴的笑声。
He tried it just then, but the chuckle got caught in his throat and came out sounding sweaty and choked.
就在这时他尝试了一下，但笑声卡在了喉咙里，听起来满头大汗，哽咽着。
Sheila stared at him.
希拉盯着他。
You have this weird crap in your beard, she said.
你的胡子里有这种奇怪的东西，她说。
She reached in to pull it out.
她伸手去把它拉出来。
And as she did, she brought her face in close enough for Santa to smell her.
当她这样做的时候，她把脸凑得足够近，让圣诞老人能够闻到她的味道。
Whereas, Glenda smelled like baby powder and cinnamon, Sheila smelled of something he couldn't quite put his finger on.
格伦达闻起来像婴儿爽身粉和肉桂的味道，而希拉则闻起来有一种他无法确切形容的味道。
Cigarettes, of course, but something else, too.
当然是香烟，但还有其他东西。
It set the chimney in his chest ablaze, ashy black doves trying to flap out their flaming wings.
它让他胸口的烟囱着火了，灰白的黑色鸽子试图拍打着燃烧的翅膀。
As Sheila rummaged through his beard, the look on her face was all little-girl concentration.
当希拉在他的胡须中翻找时，她脸上的表情全是小女孩般的专注。
You have nice bone structure, she said.
你的骨骼结构很好，她说。
You should try wearing black.
你应该尝试穿黑色。
It would have a slimming effect.
会有减肥的效果。
Withdrawing a tiny, shriveled raisin from Santa's beard, Sheila crinkled up her face and flicked it onto the carpet.
希拉从圣诞老人的胡须中取出一块干瘪的小葡萄干，皱起了眉头，把它弹到了地毯上。
Ew, gross, she said.
呃，太恶心了，她说。
Glenda walked back into the room with drinks.
格伦达端着饮料走回房间。
And when Santa reached for one, he realized his hand was shaking.
当圣诞老人伸手去拿一个时，他意识到自己的手在颤抖。
He excused himself to use the bathroom, where he thought he might hum a few carols to calm himself down.
他借口去洗手间，他想在那里可以哼几首颂歌让自己平静下来。
Everything inside the bathroom was glittery and white-- white glittery soaps, shampoos, curtains.
浴室里的一切都是闪闪发光的白色——白色闪闪发光的肥皂、洗发水、窗帘。
But there, hanging from the white shower curtain rod was something black.
但白色浴帘杆上挂着一个黑色的东西。
Strung there for all the world to see were a pair of silky black stockings-- Sheila's black stockings.
挂在那里，让全世界都能看到一双丝滑的黑丝袜——希拉的黑丝袜。
For years, Santa had dealt intimately with stockings, stuffing them with coal or presents, and never thought about it twice.
多年来，圣诞老人一直与长袜打交道，在里面塞满煤炭或礼物，从来没有想过第二次。
But just then, seeing those black stockings of hers, being alone with them, something came over him.
但就在这时，看到她的那双黑丝袜，单独在一起，他突然有一种感觉。
And suddenly, he was on his toes, biting the tips like a playful pup-- like a fat, old, playful pup.
突然，他踮起脚尖，像一只顽皮的小狗一样咬着脚尖——就像一只又胖又老的顽皮小狗。
Returning to the living room, Santa sat back down on the couch and listened, enraptured, as Sheila encouraged him to revise his policy on naughtiness.
回到客厅，圣诞老人坐回到沙发上，欣喜若狂地听着希拉鼓励他修改对淘气的政策。
Santa nodded his head, as though giving her suggestion some thought.
圣诞老人点点头，似乎在考虑她的建议。
In bed that night, Santa replayed each of Sheila's words and gestures.
那天晚上，圣诞老人在床上重述了希拉的每一句话和每一个手势。
Sheila said whatever she felt like, touching and smelling everything like an animal.
希拉想说什么就说什么，像动物一样触摸和闻着一切。
She was not afraid to take, avail herself of the world-- drinks, cigarettes, hospitality.
她不害怕接受、利用这个世界——饮料、香烟、招待。
Without so much as asking, she'd even plunged her hand into Santa's Shirley Temple, plucking the maraschino cherry right out and using his hat to wipe her hands.
甚至没有询问，她甚至把手伸进了圣诞老人的秀兰·邓波儿（Shirley Temple），直接拔出了樱桃，并用他的帽子擦了擦手。
For Santa, one so in love with giving, he could not help but see before him a kind of black hole-- a sexy and sublime black hole, into which he could deliver forth his greatest gifts.
对于如此热爱奉献的圣诞老人来说，他情不自禁地在自己面前看到了一种黑洞——一个性感而崇高的黑洞，他可以将自己最伟大的礼物送入其中。
In Sheila, he saw an insatiable hunger for life.
在希拉身上，他看到了对生活永不满足的渴望。
With such a woman to give to, to give himself to, it would feel as though every day was Christmas.
和这样一个女人一起付出，奉献自己，感觉每一天都是圣诞节。
When they had made plans for the following weekend, Glenda had asked if Santa could bring along a friend for Sheila.
当他们为下一个周末制定计划时，格伦达问圣诞老人是否可以为希拉带来一位朋友。
And so he showed up with Jingles.
于是他带着叮当出现了。
Anything to help a brother out, Jingles had said.
叮当说过，只要能帮助兄弟摆脱困境，一切都可以。
Strolling into Glenda's living room, Jingles did that thing where he jumped onto the couch while crossing his legs in midair.
走进格伦达的客厅，叮当跳到沙发上，在半空中盘腿。
He landed right beside Sheila.
他降落在希拉身边。
You are just too cute for words, exclaimed Sheila.
“你真是太可爱了，”希拉惊呼道。
Try anyways, said Jingles, snipping the tip of his cigar.
无论如何都要尝试一下，金格斯说着，剪断了雪茄的尖端。
It was the length of his forearm.
这是他前臂的长度。
I'd prefer to keep the house smoke free, said Glenda.
“我宁愿让房子里无烟，”格伦达说。
More like fun free, said Sheila.
希拉说，更像是免费的乐趣。
Say, what do you call people who live around here, anyway?
话说，你怎么称呼住在这附近的人呢？
North Pollacks?
北鳕鱼？
We call ourselves Cold Poles, said Jingles.
“我们称自己为冷极人，”金格斯说。
Ever put your tongue on a cold pole, honey?
亲爱的，你曾经把你的舌头放在冰冷的杆子上吗？
Tends to get stuck there.
往往会卡在那里。
Sheila slapped him on the head.
希拉拍了拍他的头。
Dork, she said, laughing.
傻瓜，她笑着说。
Sheila and Jingles had a million things to talk about.
希拉和叮当有百万件事要谈。
All the while, Glenda and Santa just sort of sat there, smiling awkwardly and watching the snow fall.
格伦达和圣诞老人一直坐在那里，尴尬地微笑着，看着雪花飘落。
It's an uninhabitable wasteland, Santa heard Sheila say.
这是一片不适合居住的荒地，圣诞老人听到希拉说。
Tampa sounds awesome, said Jingles.
坦帕听起来棒极了，金格斯说。
If only I could convince El Jefe over there to move the operation south.
要是我能说服那边的杰夫把行动转移到南方就好了。
Jingles looked over at Santa and, seeing his bro struggling with his date, decided to kick things into gear.
叮当看着圣诞老人，看到他的兄弟与他的约会对象陷入困境，决定开始行动。
Come on, y'all, said the elf, addressing the group.
来吧，你们大家，”精灵对大家说道。
Gather around for a little spin 'o the bottle.
聚集在一起稍微旋转一下瓶子。
I've got just the one, said Sheila, downing the last of the red wine straight from the bottle.
“我只有一个，”希拉说着，直接从瓶子里喝掉了最后一杯红酒。
Spin the what?
旋转什么？
asked Glenda.
格伦达问道。
Sheila rolled her eyes, placed the bottle down on the carpet, and spun.
希拉翻了个白眼，把瓶子放在地毯上，然后旋转起来。
Santa watched the bottle spin with an anxiety that bordered on mania.
圣诞老人带着近乎疯狂的焦虑看着瓶子旋转。
What if the bottle dictated that he was to kiss Sheila?
如果瓶子指示他要亲吻希拉怎么办？
He would almost certainly die.
他几乎肯定会死。
But he did not have to ponder such a kiss for very long.
但对于这样的一个吻，他并没有思考太久。
For soon, the bottle slowed to a halt, pointing directly at Jingles.
很快，瓶子就慢了下来，直指叮当。
And when Sheila licked her lips and leaned her face downward, Jingles grabbed her head in his small hands and planted his tiny mouth on hers.
当希拉舔了舔嘴唇，把脸低下时，叮当用他的小手抓住了她的头，把他的小嘴放在了她的嘴上。
Santa felt the chimney fire in his chest snuff out.
圣诞老人感到胸口的烟囱火熄灭了。
He and Glenda watched them kiss.
他和格伦达看着他们接吻。
Then, after a while, they watched the snow fall.
过了一会儿，他们看到雪花飘落了。
Then they went back to watching them kiss.
然后他们又回去看他们接吻。
Eventually, Jingles led Sheila into the vestibule, where he said he wanted to show her the secret to getting the tips of his shoes so curly.
最终，叮当带希拉走进前厅，他说他想向她展示他的鞋尖如此卷曲的秘诀。
Left alone and at somewhat of a loss, Glenda got up and fished around in a cabinet drawer beside the couch.
格伦达独自一人，有点不知所措，站起来，在沙发旁边的柜子抽屉里摸索着。
Santa thought she might be looking for a game of some sort.
圣诞老人认为她可能正在寻找某种游戏。
But then she said, I have something for you.
但后来她说，我有东西给你。
She held out a glistening package.
她递出一个闪闪发光的包裹。
No way, José, Santa said.
不可能，何塞，圣诞老人说。
I'm the gift giver around here.
我是这里的送礼人。
And it's not even Christmas yet.
而且现在还不是圣诞节。
Santa was about to really kick up a fuss.
圣诞老人真的要大惊小怪了。
But then, as a downright witchy look fell across Glenda's face, he trailed off.
但随后，当格伦达脸上露出一种彻头彻尾的巫术表情时，他的声音就减弱了。
It's nothing that big, she insisted, thrusting the present at his chest.
没什么大不了的，她坚持说，把礼物塞到他胸前。
Besides, it was fun trying to find the perfect something for you.
此外，尝试为您找到完美的东西也很有趣。
And then to actually find it-- there's no greater feeling in the world.
然后真正找到它——世界上没有比这更伟大的感觉了。
But look who I'm telling this to.
但看看我是在对谁说这件事。
Hearing her words and seeing the look of excitement on her face, Santa had a puzzling thought.
听到她的话，看到她脸上兴奋的表情，圣诞老人心中产生了一种不解的想法。
Perhaps he'd somehow misjudged things.
也许他在某种程度上误判了事情。
Perhaps he'd somehow gotten it wrong.
也许他弄错了。
By refusing the gifts people wished to bestow on him, he'd consistently failed to give the experience of giving.
由于拒绝人们想要送给他的礼物，他一直未能提供给予的经验。
He'd hogged that particular pleasure all to himself.
他把这种特别的快乐完全据为己有。
And so he took the package.
于是他拿走了包裹。
It was flat and square.
它是平坦的、方形的。
Tearing the wrapping paper open, he saw it was a record-- Rockin' Christmas Party Songs, Volume 1.
撕开包装纸，他看到那是一张唱片——摇滚圣诞派对歌曲，第一卷。
He absolutely hated it, not just because the thought of listening to it made him feel like one of those old, white-haired hippies who had to make everything from getting their prostate checked to celebrating Christmas not just a good time, but a rockin' good time.
他绝对讨厌它，不仅仅是因为听到它的想法让他感觉自己像一个白发苍苍的嬉皮士，从检查前列腺到庆祝圣诞节，一切都必须做，不仅是一个美好的时光，而且是一个摇滚般的美好时光。
But it was also one of those gifts that said something about the recipient, something that was hard to swallow, like the gift of a back scratcher that says, you're alone in this world and must fend for yourself, or the gift of a warm house coat that says, your days of party dresses are over.
但它也是一种表达了关于收礼者的一些东西的礼物，一些难以接受的东西，比如一件挠背的礼物说，你在这个世界上孤独一人，必须照顾自己，或者一件温暖的家居服礼物说，你穿派对礼服的日子已经结束了。
The gift of a perfectly awful Christmas album being handed to you by a woman who liked you said, loud and clear, you must learn to compromise.
一个喜欢你的女人送给你一张非常糟糕的圣诞专辑作为礼物，大声而明确地说，你必须学会妥协。
For after all his years of giving, Santa knew better than anyone that we don't always receive what we want, nor even what we deserve.
经过多年的奉献，圣诞老人比任何人都清楚，我们并不总能得到我们想要的，甚至也不是我们应得的。
We receive what life brings us.
我们接受生活带给我们的东西。
And when it comes to life, we haven't a choice but to open our arms.
当面对生活时，我们别无选择，只能张开双臂。
I love it, said Santa, with a half smile.
我喜欢它，圣诞老人微笑着说道。
Unpeeling the plastic, they placed the album on the record player.
他们揭开塑料薄膜，将专辑放在电唱机上。
Santa held out his arms, and Glenda entered his embrace.
圣诞老人伸出双臂，格伦达投入了他的怀抱。
And together, they danced about the room as Chuck Berry belted out "Run, Rudolph, Run." And it was almost enough to drown out the sounds in the vestibule.
他们一起在房间里跳舞，查克·贝里高声喊着“跑，鲁道夫，跑”。而且几乎足以盖过前厅里的声音。
[MUSIC - "RUN, RUDOLPH, RUN" BY CHUCK BERRY]
[音乐 - 查克·贝瑞的“奔跑，鲁道夫，奔跑”]
Jonathan Goldstein used to work here at our program and is now the host of the podcast Heavyweight, where he tells amazing true stories about people.
乔纳森·戈德斯坦 (Jonathan Goldstein) 曾在我们的节目中工作，现在是播客 Heavyweight 的主持人，他在其中讲述了有关人们的令人惊叹的真实故事。
I recommend it.
我推荐它。
You can hear it on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
您可以在 Spotify 上或任何可以获取播客的地方收听它。
Our program was produced today by Brian Reed and Jonathan Menjivar, with Alex Blumberg, Ben Calhoun, Sarah Koenig, Miki Meek, Lisa Pollak, Robyn Semien, Alissa Shipp, and Nancy Updike.
今天我们的节目由 Brian Reed 和 Jonathan Menjivar 以及 Alex Blumberg、Ben Calhoun、Sarah Koenig、Miki Meek、Lisa Pollak、Robyn Semien、Alissa Shipp 和 Nancy Updike 共同制作。
Senior producer for today's program was Julie Snyder.
今天节目的高级制片人是朱莉·斯奈德。
Music help from Damien Graef and Rob Geddes.
Damien Graef 和 Rob Geddes 提供音乐帮助。
Additional production help on this rerun from Noor Gill, Stowe Nelson, Beth Lake, and Matt Tierney.
诺尔·吉尔、斯托·纳尔逊、贝丝·莱克和马特·蒂尔尼为这部重播剧提供了额外的制作帮助。
Special thanks today to Jon Ronson, Sarah Henderson, Michelle Harris, Richard Stewart, and [?
今天特别感谢乔恩·罗森 (Jon Ronson)、莎拉·亨德森 (Sarah Henderson)、米歇尔·哈里斯 (Michelle Harris)、理查德·斯图尔特 (Richard Stewart) 和 [?
Luke ?] [?
卢克？] [？
Teddy ?] at [INAUDIBLE].
泰迪？]在[听不清]。
Our website, thisamericanlife.org.
我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.
《美国生活》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。
Thanks, as always, to our program's co-founder, Mr. Torey Malatia, one of the most experienced programmers in public broadcasting.
一如既往地感谢我们节目的联合创始人 Torey Malatia 先生，他是公共广播领域最有经验的程序员之一。
He knows the ingredients you need for any successful radio show.
他知道任何成功的广播节目所需的要素。
And of course, they are--
当然，他们是——
Vegetables, a head of broccoli, and an onion, and one of the bones from the original Rudolph.
蔬菜、一棵西兰花、一个洋葱，以及原始鲁道夫的骨头之一。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
[MUSIC - "RUN, RUDOLPH, RUN" BY CHUCK BERRY]
[音乐 - 查克·贝瑞的“奔跑，鲁道夫，奔跑”]
This American Life This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
This American Life This American Life 与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。