726: Twenty-Five - This American Life
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Prologue: Prologue Ira Glass OK, so let's begin today's program with a story about a 25-year-old reporter, namely me at 25.
序言：序言 Ira Glass 好的，让我们以一个 25 岁记者的故事开始今天的节目，也就是 25 岁的我。
This clip that I'm about to play you was on an NPR program called Let's Hear It, though I have to say, I think the 25-year-old me would find this intro that I'm doing right now to the story to be kind of mumbly and understated.
我要给你们播放的这个片段是 NPR 节目 Let's Hear It 上的，不过我不得不说，我想 25 岁的我会发现我现在对这个故事所做的介绍有点含糊和低调。
Here's how 25-year-old me kicked off his story.
以下是 25 岁的我如何开始他的故事。
And now, true-to-life adventure stories.
现在，逼真的冒险故事。
Yeah, I had flair.
是的，我有天赋。
That's how I talked back then on the radio.
我当时在广播里就是这么说的。
Today's adventure story began this way.
今天的冒险故事就这样开始了。
I was sitting outside the office of Betty Bird.
我坐在贝蒂·伯德的办公室外面。
She's one of the producers of this radio program, and she's blind.
她是这个广播节目的制作人之一，而且她是盲人。
OK, I'm just going to stop the tape right there.
好的，我要把磁带停在那里。
I have so much to say about this, but I'm just going to let this play for a minute or two first.
关于这个我有很多话要说，但我只想先讲一两分钟。
Stay with me here.
留在我这里吧。
OK, I'm outside Betty Bird's office.
好的，我在贝蒂·伯德的办公室外面。
And I overheard her tell this story.
我无意中听到她讲这个故事。
She was walking down the street.
她正走在街上。
She was with a friend.
她和一个朋友在一起。
And some woman, a complete stranger, walks up to the two of them, catches up to the two of them.
某个完全陌生的女人走到他们两个面前，追上了他们两个。
And this stranger says to Betty--
这个陌生人对贝蒂说——
Well, how did you lose your sight?
嗯，你是怎么失去视力的？
And I said, I don't usually share that with anybody except friends.
我说，除了朋友之外，我通常不会与任何人分享这一点。
And she said, well, I just want to know.
她说，好吧，我只是想知道。
I just want to know.
我只是想知道。
When did you lose your sight, and how did it happen?
您何时失明？是如何发生的？
And I said, well, I don't really care to discuss that with strangers.
我说，好吧，我真的不想和陌生人讨论这个。
And she said, well, I don't know why.
她说，好吧，我不知道为什么。
You certainly don't have a very Christian attitude.
你当然没有非常基督徒的态度。
You should be grateful.
你应该心存感激。
I've given money to the blind.
我已经给盲人钱了。
You should be grateful.
你应该心存感激。
I said, you've never given any money to me, lady, and crossed the street to get away from her.
我说，女士，你从来没有给过我钱，还穿过马路逃离她。
Now, when I heard this story, I got really excited.
现在，当我听到这个故事时，我非常兴奋。
And that's because the woman who I've been involved with for the past three years-- her name is Cary LaCheen-- has these sorts of experiences with strangers on the street.
那是因为过去三年来与我交往的那位女士——她的名字叫卡里·拉钦——在街上与陌生人有过这样的经历。
Sorry, I just can't help myself.
抱歉，我只是无法控制自己。
I have to pause this again.
我必须再次暂停这个。
Could there be a more awkward way to say "my girlfriend" than "the woman I've been involved with for the past three years"?
还有比“过去三年来和我交往的女人”更尴尬的说法吗？
Anyway, my girlfriend, Cary-- who's not blind, by the way.
无论如何，我的女朋友卡里——顺便说一句，她不是瞎子。
She's only got one full arm.
她只有一只完整的手臂。
Her left arm stops at the elbow.
她的左臂停在肘部。
And complete strangers have approached her on the street to ask her what happened to her arm.
街上有一些完全陌生的人走近她，询问她的手臂怎么了。
So I didn't say anything about Cary to Betty at the time.
所以当时我没有对贝蒂说任何关于卡里的事情。
I was just eavesdropping.
我只是在偷听。
But I did go home and tell Cary about Betty's story.
但我确实回家告诉了卡里贝蒂的故事。
And her response was--
而她的回答是——
Shock and excitement of recognition.
获得认可的震惊和兴奋。
I've been pretty isolated from other people who are disabled, for a number of complicated reasons, but I just have never been in a position to really trade those stories with anybody or to hear that other people had the same experience that I did.
由于许多复杂的原因，我与其他残疾人非常隔离，但我从来没有能力与任何人真正交换这些故事，或者听到其他人有与我相同的经历。
So I decided to try to capture stories like this, true-to-life adventures with strangers approaching disabled people on the street, for other disabled people and for able-bodied people to hear.
因此，我决定尝试捕捉这样的故事，即陌生人在街上接近残疾人的真实冒险故事，供其他残疾人和身体健全的人听到。
I talked to five people, including Cary and Betty.
我和五个人交谈过，其中包括卡里和贝蒂。
Here's Donna Vino.
请听唐娜·维诺的报道。
And this one is a series of personal stories, all of them, I'd say, pretty good, told by great, funny talkers.
这是一系列个人故事，我想说，所有这些故事都非常好，由伟大而有趣的演讲者讲述。
Me, jumping in now and then with narration to point out some bigger lessons that we're supposed to draw from the stories.
我时不时地插上旁白，指出我们应该从故事中汲取的一些更大的教训。
Playing this for my girlfriend this week-- excuse me-- playing this for the woman I've been involved with for the last year and a half, she had this reaction, which was like, it's clear what you're trying to make and who you want to be, but you're not doing it right.
这周为我女朋友播放这个——对不起——为我交往了一年半的女人播放这个，她有这样的反应，就像，很清楚你想做什么，你想成为谁，但你做得不对。
And I think that's really a good way to put it.
我认为这确实是一个很好的表达方式。
I was vaguely stumbling on my way to making the radio show that you are listening to right this second, where people come on and tell personal stories.
我在制作你们现在正在收听的广播节目的路上遇到了一些绊脚石，人们在节目中讲述个人故事。
But at 25, all the moves I make are really clunky.
但在25岁的时候，我所做的所有动作都非常笨拙。
I'm trying so hard.
我好努力啊
Near the end of the story, when I try to point out some bigger idea from the story, it could not be more didactic.
在故事接近尾声时，当我试图从故事中指出一些更大的想法时，它的说教意义再大不过了。
Now, if you're an able-bodied person listening to this, I don't want to leave you now with fear somehow or leave you scared that you'll say the wrong thing to some disabled person.
现在，如果你是一个身体健全的人正在听这个，我不想让你现在感到恐惧，或者让你害怕你会对一些残疾人说错话。
Here are three general rules that you can follow.
以下是您可以遵循的三个一般规则。
Number one, you shouldn't offer help to someone unless they actually look like they need help.
第一，你不应该向某人提供帮助，除非他们看起来确实需要帮助。
And in that case, you should go up to them and you should ask them first if they want your help.
在这种情况下，您应该去找他们，并首先询问他们是否需要您的帮助。
It's really crazy that I thought that it would be necessary to say this after, at that point, 11 minutes of stories where non-disabled people walk up to people with disabilities and make complete jackasses of themselves.
真的很疯狂，我认为在 11 分钟的故事之后有必要说这句话，在这个故事中，非残疾人走到残疾人面前，把自己变成了一个彻头彻尾的傻瓜。
Though I have to say, I was surprised, listening back to this recording, how good the interviews are.
虽然我不得不说，我很惊讶，听着这段录音，采访有多好。
That part of it I had down.
那部分我已经放下了。
And also, by my sheer desire to entertain.
而且，出于我纯粹的娱乐欲望。
This story was the kickoff to a series of stories about awkward encounters between people with disabilities and non-disabled people.
这个故事是一系列关于残疾人和非残疾人之间尴尬遭遇的故事的开始。
And in my sign-off to the story, you can hear a little bit of how I sound today, yes, but also a little bit of the teenage magician that I had been not that long before this.
在我对这个故事的结束语中，你可以听到一点我今天的声音，是的，但也有一点我不久前还是一个少年魔术师的样子。
This is Ira Glass.
这是艾拉·格拉斯。
I'll be back next week with more true-to-life adventure stories.
下周我会带着更多真实的冒险故事回来。
Music, maestro.
音乐，大师。
Next week, we hear true-to-life adventure stories from dinner parties.
下周，我们将在晚宴上听到真实的冒险故事。
People tend to-- Ira Glass OK, then there's a clip from next week's story, and then--
人们倾向于——艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）好的，然后是下周故事的一个片段，然后——
Tales of embarrassment and inappropriate behavior by able-bodied people, next week on this public radio program.
下周这个公共广播节目将讲述健全人的尴尬和不当行为。
This version of the story ran a month before my 25th birthday, and then another version, minus the organ music, ran on All Things Considered a month after that birthday.
这个故事的这个版本在我 25 岁生日前一个月播出，然后另一个版本（去掉管风琴音乐）在生日后一个月在《All Things Thoughts》上播出。
At that point, I was not a beginner in radio.
那时，我还不是广播的初学者。
I'd been doing radio for six years.
我做广播已经六年了。
And at the time, I really wondered if I ever was going to get it.
当时，我真的想知道我是否能得到它。
I was a freelancer, and I was so slow at making radio stories that, to earn money, I also worked as a temp secretary.
我是一名自由职业者，制作广播故事的速度很慢，为了赚钱，我还当过临时秘书。
And I would hear the NPR reporters that I admired the most cranking out these perfect little gems of stories in a day or two.
我会听到我最敬佩的 NPR 记者在一两天内编出这些完美的小故事。
And it was like they had some, I don't know, superpower that was somehow unavailable to me, no matter how hard I tried.
就好像他们拥有某种我不知道的超能力，而无论我如何努力，我都无法获得这些超能力。
At 25, I was still figuring a lot of things out.
25岁的时候，我还在思考很多事情。
And I bring this up today because this fall marks the 25th anniversary of our program, This American Life.
我今天提出这个问题是因为今年秋天是我们的节目《美国生活》播出 25 周年。
And rather than spend an hour looking back, it seemed more interesting to do a show about what it means to be 25.
与其花一个小时回顾过去，做一个关于 25 岁意味着什么的节目似乎更有趣。
Not what it means for a radio show to be 25, because who cares, but what it means for a person to be 25.
不是广播节目25岁意味着什么，因为谁在乎，而是一个人25岁意味着什么。
It's such a particular age.
这是一个非常特殊的年龄。
You're an adult, but you're new enough to it that it still can feel like you have a long way to go to turn yourself into the person you want to be.
你已经是一个成年人了，但你还很陌生，以至于你仍然会觉得你还有很长的路要走，才能把自己变成你想成为的人。
So today on our show, we've collected a bunch of stories about all kinds of 25-year-olds-- some of them struggling, some of them focused and accomplished and not struggling at all, and then a couple who are somewhere in between.
所以今天在我们的节目中，我们收集了一堆关于各种各样的 25 岁年轻人的故事——其中一些人在挣扎，一些人专注且有成就，但根本不挣扎，还有一些介于两者之间的夫妇。
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, 29 Versus 19.
第一幕，29 与 19。
So our first story in today's program is reported by one of the youngest people on our staff, Noor Gill, who was 25 when she applied for her job here.
今天节目中的第一个故事是由我们员工中最年轻的人 Noor Gill 报道的，她申请这里的工作时才 25 岁。
She is now 26.
她现在26岁了。
Hi, Noor.
嗨，努尔。
Hi, Ira.
嗨，艾拉。
Ira Glass So Noor, before you get to the person who you're doing your story about, just take a second and remind older people what it is like to be the young, least experienced person in some workplace.
艾拉·格拉斯·索·努尔（Ira Glass So Noor），在谈到你要讲述的故事对象之前，请花一点时间提醒年长的人，在某些工作场所成为年轻人、经验最缺乏的人是什么样的。
I think it's like, it's scary because you're trying to prove to people that you're not an idiot, but then you think you're an idiot, too.
我认为这很可怕，因为你试图向人们证明你不是白痴，但你又认为自己也是白痴。
So it's just, it's hard.
所以这只是，很难。
You worry about the smallest things, like stupid things, like how I would send an email, or like how I'm sitting in my chair.
你担心最小的事情，比如愚蠢的事情，比如我如何发送电子邮件，或者比如我坐在椅子上的方式。
I think you worry about how your coworkers are going to see you.
我想你担心你的同事会怎么看你。
And then you start to realize that no one even cares.
然后你开始意识到根本没有人在乎。
I've definitely shown up late, and it made no difference.
我确实迟到了，但这并没有什么区别。
Like nobody was paying attention at all.
就像根本没有人注意一样。
Everyone else is so busy, no one pays attention.
其他人都很忙，没有人关注。
But that's a good thing.
但这是一件好事。
Once I realized that, I didn't feel as stressed about every little thing.
一旦我意识到这一点，我就不再为每件小事感到压力。
OK, so the story that you put together, that people will hear now, it's about somebody who is 25 in the same kind of position that you're in, except in a job where the stakes are higher, right?
好的，所以你整理的故事，人们现在会听到，是关于一个 25 岁的人，他的处境与你相同，只是从事的工作风险更高，对吗？
Yeah, way higher.
是的，更高。
Ira Glass All right.
艾拉·格拉斯 好吧。
Well, take it from here.
好吧，从这里拿走。
I came across a profile in The New York Times this summer about a 25-year-old who had a job that seemed very consequential, way more consequential than any I've had.
今年夏天，我在《纽约时报》上看到了一篇关于一位 25 岁年轻人的简介，他的工作似乎非常重要，比我做过的任何工作都重要得多。
She was a scientist working at the biotech company Regeneron, part of the team racing to find a treatment for COVID, where actual people's lives are on the line.
她是再生元生物技术公司的一名科学家，该公司是致力于寻找新冠病毒治疗方法的团队的一员，而现实中的人们的生命正处于危险之中。
And I remember thinking, she's only 25?
我记得我当时想，她才 25 岁？
How'd she even get that job?
她是怎么得到那份工作的？
Her name is Stephanie Giordano.
她的名字叫斯蒂芬妮·佐丹奴。
I wasn't the only person who saw the article and reached out.
我并不是唯一一个看到这篇文章并伸出援手的人。
Yeah, it was like teachers from high school, teachers from college, every single one of my ex-boyfriends' moms.
是的，就像高中老师、大学老师、我前男友的每一位妈妈。
Oh that's funny.
哦，这很有趣。
Stephanie Giordano [LAUGHS]
斯蒂芬妮·佐丹奴[笑]
Not to brag-- no, I'm just saying that-- I won Best to Bring Home to Mom and Dad in high school.
不是吹牛——不，我只是这么说——我在高中时赢得了“最佳带回家给爸爸妈妈”奖。
That's a category?
那是一个类别？
Stephanie Giordano That was a superlative in my yearbook.
斯蒂芬妮·佐丹奴 这是我的年鉴中最高级的。
Moms love me.
妈妈们爱我。
But I'm polite.
但我很有礼貌。
Stephanie's nice to talk to.
斯蒂芬妮很高兴能和她聊天。
She laughs a lot, and she's funny.
她很爱笑，而且很有趣。
She has some pink in her hair.
她的头发上有一些粉红色。
Working on a project like this wasn't some huge goal she'd set out for herself.
从事这样的项目并不是她为自己设定的宏伟目标。
She loved science, but she loves a lot of other stuff, too.
她热爱科学，但她也热爱很多其他东西。
Back in January, she was living in New York City with her roommate and commuting to the suburbs for work at Regeneron's headquarters.
早在一月份，她和室友住在纽约市，并通勤到郊区去再生元总部工作。
And it was then that COVID first became a part of her life, much earlier than for most of us in the US, and long before there were many confirmed cases or anything closed down.
就在那时，新冠病毒第一次成为她生活的一部分，比我们大多数美国人要早得多，而且早在出现许多确诊病例或任何事情被关闭之前。
She first heard about it at work and didn't think too much of it.
她第一次听说这件事是在工作中，并没有想太多。
I guess it was like early, mid-January when it became a topic of conversation in the lab, not really in my social spheres or with anyone outside of the lab.
我想大概在一月初、中旬，它就成为了实验室里的一个话题，而不是真正在我的社交圈子里或与实验室外的任何人谈论的话题。
Honestly in the beginning, it was just sort of chatting.
老实说，一开始只是聊天。
It was like, let's just keep an eye on it and see how it spreads.
就像，让我们密切关注它，看看它是如何传播的。
It was really just a side idea at the time.
当时这确实只是一个侧面想法。
And then it got really intense.
然后事情变得非常激烈。
Regeneron has thousands of employees working on all sorts of things.
再生元拥有数千名员工，从事各种工作。
Stephanie happened to sit right between the two people in her department who were spearheading the COVID project.
斯蒂芬妮恰好坐在她所在部门负责新冠项目的两个人中间。
Kristen, the lead, sat next to her.
主角克里斯汀坐在她旁边。
And then right behind me was Vincenzo, who was also on the rapid response team.
紧随其后的是文森佐，他也是快速反应小组的成员。
The rapid response team wasn't working on a vaccine.
快速反应小组没有研究疫苗。
They were making a drug to treat people who got COVID and help them recover.
他们正在制造一种药物来治疗新冠病毒感染者并帮助他们康复。
The idea was to make a cocktail of different antibodies to neutralize the virus.
这个想法是制作不同抗体的混合物来中和病毒。
Kristen and Vincenzo were talking about the plan constantly across Stephanie's desk, and Stephanie couldn't help but overhear.
克里斯汀和文森佐隔着斯蒂芬妮的办公桌不断谈论这个计划，斯蒂芬妮忍不住偷听。
But she was busy with her own assignments, until one night-- this was still back in January, early in the outbreak-- when she was getting ready to take the 5:30 shuttle bus to her train back to the city.
但她忙着自己的工作，直到有一天晚上——那还是一月份，疫情爆发初期——她准备乘坐5点30分的班车去回城的火车。
She saw Kristen and Vincenzo were in for another late night, and offered to stay back and help.
她看到克里斯汀和文森佐又要熬夜了，于是主动提出留下来帮忙。
I saw if another set of hands were there, it meant that they can go home at 8:00 PM instead of 9:30 PM.
我看到如果还有另一只手，那就意味着他们可以在晚上 8:00 回家，而不是晚上 9:30。
At that point, I didn't realize that one day would probably be a lot longer than just one day of taking the later shuttle.
那时我并没有意识到，有一天可能比乘坐晚班车的一天要长很多。
Raising your hand to be the one who stays late?
举手表示谁是迟到的人？
This is something we know how to do at 25.
这是我们25岁时就知道如何做的事情。
I'm very familiar with this move.
我对这个动作非常熟悉。
Within a few days, Stephanie had dropped all her other projects and was working full-time on the COVID treatment.
几天之内，斯蒂芬妮放弃了所有其他项目，全职从事新冠治疗工作。
Her team's project was to come up with a way to quickly screen which antibodies actually worked against the virus.
她的团队的项目是想出一种快速筛选哪些抗体真正对抗病毒的方法。
As part of that project, Stephanie's assignment was to make what she calls a virus-like particle, a fake version of the coronavirus that could infect cells.
作为该项目的一部分，斯蒂芬妮的任务是制造她所谓的类病毒颗粒，这是一种可以感染细胞的冠状病毒的假版本。
It came down to testing hundreds of different recipes, getting the conditions exactly right.
归根结底是测试数百种不同的食谱，确保条件完全正确。
She was working long hours, lots of weekends as the team rushed to get the project in place.
由于团队急于将项目落实到位，她工作时间很长，很多周末都在工作。
Her job was slowly becoming her entire life.
她的工作慢慢地成为了她的全部生活。
At some point in February, months before anyone was wearing masks, before COVID was even officially a pandemic, she started to get nervous riding the packed train every day to work.
二月份的某个时候，在人们戴口罩之前的几个月，在新冠病毒正式成为大流行病之前，她开始感到紧张，每天乘坐拥挤的火车去上班。
So in March, she moved from her apartment in Manhattan to a temporary place near Regeneron's headquarters and threw herself fully into the project.
于是在三月份，她从曼哈顿的公寓搬到再生元总部附近的一个临时住所，全身心投入到这个项目中。
I was so excited.
我很兴奋。
Yeah, it was just like a pretty huge undertaking.
是的，这就像一项相当艰巨的任务。
It was a little sad.
心里有点难过。
I felt really weird leaving the city.
离开这座城市我感觉很奇怪。
I felt weird.
我感觉很奇怪。
I couldn't see anyone.
我没看到任何人。
So I didn't see my boyfriend for like almost two months.
所以我已经快两个月没有见到我的男朋友了。
And it felt really-- it felt really hard to prioritize what, at the time, was just my job, just putting my job before a lot of things that I normally prioritize.
感觉真的很难优先考虑当时只是我的工作的事情，只是把我的工作放在我通常优先考虑的很多事情之前。
But I just knew that in my heart, that this was going to be something much more important.
但我心里知道，这将是更重要的事情。
After that, every day she'd wake up in her empty Airbnb, drive the seven minutes it took to get to the lab, spent hours each day alone in that lab that had to be kept dark, staring into a microscope.
此后，她每天都会在空荡荡的 Airbnb 中醒来，开车七分钟到达实验室，每天独自在那个必须保持黑暗的实验室里呆上几个小时，盯着显微镜。
She'd stay there until around 10:00 or later, only to drive back and do it all over again.
她会在那里呆到 10:00 左右或更晚，然后开车回来，然后再做一遍。
It was just really lonely.
真的很孤独。
I hadn't ever lived alone without any roommates before, so that was really weird.
我以前从来没有在没有室友的情况下独自生活过，所以这真的很奇怪。
It was really quiet.
真的很安静。
Was there a day or a week that it was just so lonely that you thought maybe you couldn't do this anymore?
是否有一天或一周，你感到如此孤独，以至于你认为你可能不能再这样做了？
I just remember being up at 1:30 in the morning, and the TV in the bedroom-- I didn't really know how to use the remote because I never really watched it.
我只记得凌晨 1:30 起床，卧室里有电视——我真的不知道如何使用遥控器，因为我从来没有真正看过它。
And I just turned it on, and it was on PBS.
我刚打开它，它就在 PBS 上播出了。
And it was LCD Soundsystem's live recording from like 2012, and it just made me incredibly sad.
这是 LCD Soundsystem 2012 年的现场录音，这让我非常难过。
And then they played the song "All My Friends," which is just this song about no matter what, at the end of the day, whatever happens, you have the people in your life, and they're always going to be with you.
然后他们播放了歌曲“All My Friends”，这首歌讲述的是无论如何，在一天结束时，无论发生什么，你的生活中都有人，他们永远会和你在一起。
Here I was in this apartment alone, doing God knows what.
我独自一人在这间公寓里，天知道在做什么。
I haven't seen anyone I love or care about, and I don't know the next time that I will.
我还没有见到我所爱或关心的人，而且我不知道下次还能见到。
And I was just watching.
我只是在观看。
I just started hysterically crying, which is really dramatic, but I think that was probably the lowest moment.
我刚刚开始歇斯底里地哭泣，这真的很戏剧性，但我认为那可能是最低谷的时刻。
Meanwhile, outside of Stephanie's Airbnb and the lab, things were turning for the worst.
与此同时，在斯蒂芬妮的 Airbnb 和实验室之外，事情正在向最坏的方向发展。
Hospitals in New York worried about having enough PPE.
纽约的医院担心没有足够的个人防护装备。
The schools, restaurants, and bars started shutting down.
学校、餐馆和酒吧开始关闭。
There was one moment during those first few intense months of work that stood out to Stephanie.
在最初几个月的紧张工作中，有一个时刻让斯蒂芬妮印象深刻。
It was when she finally got one of the first key steps in the experiment to work.
就在那时，她终于实现了实验中第一个关键步骤。
She was testing to see if her virus-like particles, the fake viruses, were infecting cells and acting like the real thing.
她正在测试她的病毒样颗粒（假病毒）是否正在感染细胞并表现得像真实的病毒一样。
To do this, she designed an experiment that would cause cells to glow green if they were infected.
为此，她设计了一项实验，如果细胞被感染，就会发出绿光。
She spent days trying to get the conditions right.
她花了几天时间试图让条件合适。
And then one day--
然后有一天——
Oh, my god.
哦，天啊。
I was on the Zeiss, one of our microscopes here.
我使用的是蔡司显微镜，这是我们这里的一台显微镜。
And you can scan the whole plate, and it's like 3,000 images.
你可以扫描整个盘子，大约有 3,000 张图像。
And I just remember it hit like 1,500, and I saw green.
我只记得它达到了 1,500 左右，我看到了绿色。
And I was like [GASPS].
我就像[喘息]。
And I just ran out of the room and found my boss.
我就跑出房间找到了我的老板。
And I was like, I think it worked.
我当时想，我认为这有效。
How did your boss react?
你的老板有何反应？
Stephanie Giordano I think everyone else was like, yeah, it works.
斯蒂芬妮·佐丹奴 我想其他人都说，是的，它有效。
Of course, it works.
当然，它有效。
But for me, I was like, but it worked when I did it.
但对我来说，我想，但当我这样做时，它就起作用了。
When you're new and not used to things going right, even getting the smallest thing to work out can feel huge.
当你是新手并且不习惯一切顺利时，即使是解决最小的事情也会感觉很困难。
Getting those cells to light up green was just a tiny step in a thousand other steps that ultimately worked out.
让这些细胞变绿只是最终成功的一千个其他步骤中的一小步。
Regeneron started testing their antibody cocktail in June.
再生元于六月开始测试他们的抗体混合物。
It was one of the treatments President Trump got back in October, and it was just approved to be used in emergencies by the FDA last month.
这是特朗普总统 10 月份恢复的治疗方法之一，上个月刚刚被 FDA 批准用于紧急情况。
It's not a cure-all, but the treatment has been shown to help some high-risk patients.
这并不是包治百病的灵丹妙药，但已被证明可以帮助一些高危患者。
Do you ever feel like-- this is going to be a sports analogy-- but like you're a rookie who played a couple innings on a team that won the World Series?
你是否曾经感觉——这将是一个体育类比——但就像你是一名新秀，在一支赢得世界职业棒球大赛的球队中打了几局？
Do you ever feel like that?
你有过这样的感觉吗？
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
哦，是的，绝对是。
Yeah, that's actually a really good way to put it.
是的，这实际上是一个非常好的表达方式。
I guess, to stick with the sports analogy, a lot of the time in big meetings and stuff, I would be on the sidelines, listening in.
我想，用体育类比来说，在大型会议之类的很多时候，我会在场边倾听。
And even if it was data I helped generate, I'd still be like, wow, who put that together?
即使这是我帮助生成的数据，我仍然会想，哇，谁把它们放在一起的？
That looks amazing.
看起来棒极了。
You're so modest, Stephanie.
你真谦虚，斯蒂芬妮。
Stephanie Giordano I wish I could be like-- I think I can fluctuate between thinking I am a god-- not really, but being like, wow, I look awesome.
斯蒂芬妮·佐丹奴 我希望我能像——我想我可以在认为自己是神之间波动——不是真的，但就像，哇，我看起来棒极了。
I'm doing awesome.
我做得很棒。
I got a 401(k).
我拿到了 401(k)。
Yeah, that's better than me.
是的，那比我好。
Stephanie Giordano And then I'm like, oh, I'm just a regular idiot, just trying to figure [INAUDIBLE].
Stephanie Giordano 然后我想，哦，我只是一个普通的白痴，只是想弄清楚[听不清]。
Do you think this is going to be the biggest thing you'll ever do in your life?
你认为这会是你一生中做过的最重要的事情吗？
It's kind of sad to think of it like that, but I can't imagine anything else being as impactful.
这样想有点悲伤，但我无法想象还有什么比这更具有影响力。
Hopefully, it doesn't end here.
希望事情不会就此结束。
It might be.
可能是这样。
Maybe I have a quarter-life crisis and let myself go.
也许我遇到了四分之一人生危机，就放飞自我了。
I don't know.
我不知道。
But I hope not.
但我希望不会。
I'm hopeful about it.
我对此充满希望。
She told me she knows she isn't some super genius.
她告诉我她知道自己不是超级天才。
A lot of scientists could have done what she did.
很多科学家都可以做她所做的事情。
She just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
她只是碰巧在正确的时间出现在正确的地点。
Noor Gill is the production fellow of our show.
努尔吉尔是我们节目的制作人员。
Act Two, Buy Like A Butterfly.
第二幕，像蝴蝶一样购买。
So we turn next to another 25-year-old who's already achieved some things in her life-- in fact, achieved at a level that most of us never get to, even when we're older.
因此，我们接下来转向另一个 25 岁的女孩，她在生活中已经取得了一些成就——事实上，达到了我们大多数人从未达到的水平，即使我们年纪更大了。
Her name is Claressa Shields, and she has won two Olympic gold medals in women's boxing.
她的名字叫克拉丽莎·希尔兹，曾获得两枚奥运会女子拳击金牌。
And in addition to that, all kinds of other championship titles, and belts, and accolades.
除此之外，还有各种其他冠军头衔、腰带和荣誉。
But this year, this year at 25, her big accomplishment was different.
但今年，今年25岁，她的巨大成就有所不同。
With boxing shut down for COVID, she bought a house.
由于拳击比赛因新冠疫情而停摆，她买了一套房子。
She bought a house on the outskirts of her hometown, Flint, Michigan.
她在家乡密歇根州弗林特的郊区买了一套房子。
Sue Jaye Johnson has known Claressa for almost a decade.
苏·杰伊·约翰逊 (Sue Jaye Johnson) 认识克拉丽莎已近十年了。
She made a radio story about Claressa with the documentary series Radio Diaries, and then produced a film about her called T-Rex, Her Fight for Gold.
她通过纪录片系列《广播日记》制作了一个关于克拉丽莎的广播故事，然后制作了一部关于她的电影，名为“霸王龙，她为黄金而战”。
She got in touch again with Claressa to ask about this latest achievement.
她再次联系了克拉丽莎，询问这一最新成果。
The idea of Claressa owning a house is wild to me, because I've known her since she was 16.
克拉丽莎拥有一套房子的想法对我来说很疯狂，因为我从她 16 岁起就认识她了。
I met her at a boxing tournament in 2011.
我在 2011 年的一场拳击比赛中认识了她。
I was photographing and interviewing the women who were competing to be on the first-ever Olympic team for women's boxing.
我正在拍摄和采访那些正在竞争成为首支奥运会女子拳击队的女性。
It was Claressa's first adult tournament, and she made heads turn.
这是克拉丽莎第一次参加成人锦标赛，她引起了人们的注意。
Claressa Shields!
克拉丽莎·希尔兹！
Sue Jaye Johnson She was faster and stronger than any other boxer, but what really caught my attention was this determined look in her eyes.
苏·杰·约翰逊（Sue Jaye Johnson）她比任何其他拳击手都更快、更强壮，但真正引起我注意的是她眼中坚定的神情。
That, and the way she thumped her chest when she won, like she was already the greatest.
还有她获胜时捶胸顿足的样子，就好像她已经是最伟大的了。
Claressa's one of my favorite people.
克拉丽莎是我最喜欢的人之一。
It's been a privilege to have a front row seat on her life all these years, including this new chapter.
这些年来，能够站在她人生的前排，包括这新的篇章，我感到很荣幸。
Ever since she was 16, she told me she wanted two things-- a gold medal-- she got her first one a year later-- and a house, a safe place for her and her family.
从她 16 岁起，她就告诉我她想要两件事——一枚金牌——一年后她得到了第一枚金牌——以及一栋房子，为她和家人提供一个安全的地方。
All right.
好的。
Sue Jaye Johnson She gave me a little tour of it on FaceTime.
Sue Jaye Johnson 她在 FaceTime 上向我介绍了它。
So here we are at my house.
所以我们现在在我家。
This is my fireplace here.
这是我这里的壁炉。
On top of my fireplace I have, of course, my TV.
当然，我的壁炉顶上还有电视。
Then I have the 2020 Barbie doll of the year.
然后我就有了2020年度芭比娃娃。
[BEEP] That's my smoke detector.
[嘟嘟] 那是我的烟雾探测器。
I haven't changed the batteries.
我没换过电池。
It's nice.
很好。
Not massive, but big.
不是很大，但是很大。
Brick and gray vinyl siding with generous windows, a two-car garage.
砖和灰色乙烯基壁板，带有宽敞的窗户，一个两车位车库。
It's got three bedrooms.
它有三间卧室。
A Jacuzzi in the master bathroom, which was a big selling point.
主浴室设有按摩浴缸，这是一个很大的卖点。
She says when she first saw the living room, she thought she'd need three or four couches to fill the space.
她说，当她第一次看到客厅时，她认为需要三到四张沙发才能填满这个空间。
There's also a pool in the back that she says can fit about 20 people, and a yard.
后面还有一个游泳池，她说可以容纳大约 20 人，还有一个院子。
In the dining room, a long, welcoming table set for eight.
餐厅里有一张温馨的八人长餐桌。
And at the head of it, a hint of her royalty.
在它的开头，有一丝她的皇室气息。
The queen chair is down there.
皇后椅就在那里。
That's my chair.
那是我的椅子。
All the other chairs don't even have the studded diamonds.
所有其他椅子甚至都没有镶满钻石。
That one does.
那个是的。
You have a chair studded with real diamonds?
您有一把镶满真正钻石的椅子吗？
Why not, Sue?
为什么不呢，苏？
Sue Jaye Johnson Because you have a throne.
苏杰·约翰逊因为你有王位。
I don't know.
我不知道。
Who thinks of that?
谁想到这一点？
It's only two chairs.
只有两把椅子。
It's only two chairs, so it didn't cost that much.
因为只有两把椅子，所以花不了多少钱。
And then we come over here where I have my trophy case, which I only got one more drawer to fill.
然后我们来到这里，那里有我的奖杯柜，我只剩下一个抽屉可以装满。
Turning 25, the most exciting thing that I've done is buy my house.
25 岁了，我做过的最令人兴奋的事情就是买房子。
I'm like a big person with numbers.
我就像一个有数字的大人物。
So 25-- 2 plus 5 is 7, and 7 is my favorite number.
所以25——2加5等于7，7是我最喜欢的数字。
So I knew that something special would happen at 25 in my life, but I just didn't see me buying a house.
所以我知道 25 岁时我的生活中会发生一些特别的事情，但我只是没有看到我买房子。
It all just kind of just happened.
这一切就这么发生了。
I just feel like it's the opposite of what I grew up in.
我只是觉得这与我成长的环境相反。
Claressa never had a solid home for very long growing up.
克拉丽莎在很长一段时间里都没有一个稳固的家。
She lived at something like a dozen addresses before she was 17, had to deal with all kinds of abuse and deprivation.
17 岁之前，她住在十几个地址，不得不应对各种虐待和剥夺。
And it started early.
而且开始得很早。
She was moved out of her mom's place when she was five.
她五岁时就被从妈妈家搬了出来。
And I lived with my grandmother to the age of nine.
我和祖母一起生活到九岁。
And all this time I spent away from my younger brothers and my sisters.
在这段时间里，我一直没有和我的弟弟妹妹们在一起。
Also, too, moving back in with my mom abusing alcohol.
另外，我也搬回去和我酗酒的妈妈住在一起。
And moved out from with my mom and moved in with my coach, Jason.
然后从我妈妈那里搬出来，和我的教练杰森一起住。
That was my decision.
这就是我的决定。
Jason and his wife, Mickey.
杰森和他的妻子米奇。
Claressa calls her Mama Mickey.
克拉丽莎称她为米奇妈妈。
That was when she was 17, the first time she had her own bed, her own room.
那是她17岁的时候，第一次拥有自己的床，自己的房间。
She was there a little more than a year, then started living on her own.
她在那里呆了一年多一点，然后开始独自生活。
Lived in Colorado for a couple years, in Florida for a couple more.
在科罗拉多州住了几年，在佛罗里达州又住了几年。
Always rented, so now, having an entire house of her own, it's a big deal.
一直都是租的，现在拥有一整套属于自己的房子，已经是一件大事了。
And I have to say, I've had some great moments in my life, as I am a two-time Olympic gold medalist, and nine-time world champion, and three division world champion faster than any other male boxer in history-- any other boxer in history, period.
我不得不说，我一生中经历过一些伟大的时刻，因为我是两届奥运会金牌得主、九届世界冠军和三级世界冠军，比历史上任何其他男性拳击手——历史上任何其他拳击手——更快。
But when I got the keys to my house, it was this overwhelming feeling of joy and internal happiness of knowing that I'll never be homeless ever again in my life.
但当我拿到房子的钥匙时，我感到一种压倒性的喜悦和内心的幸福感，因为我知道我一生中再也不会无家可归了。
I'll never have to worry about where I'm going to live.
我永远不必担心我要住在哪里。
My family, if they need somewhere to come stay, if I can't find them somewhere to stay, I always have an extra room for them.
我的家人，如果他们需要住处，如果我找不到他们住的地方，我总是为他们提供额外的房间。
And it just gave me this whole sense of just like, you really grown now.
它给了我一种感觉，就像你现在真的长大了。
I have a therapist now, just to help me deal with the stress of not being able to fight.
我现在有一位治疗师，只是为了帮助我应对无法战斗的压力。
All of her fights were cancelled this year because of coronavirus.
由于冠状病毒，她今年所有的比赛都被取消了。
She says it's been really hard on her.
她说这对她来说真的很难受。
Because I'm used to fighting all the time, and being on TV, and always being on the go.
因为我习惯了一直打架、上电视、总是忙个不停。
And it's like having to deal with all the trolls on Instagram and Twitter, and just deal with life in general, and how to express my emotions not with anger, and not with tears, and not sink into depression.
这就像必须应对 Instagram 和 Twitter 上的所有喷子，只应对一般生活，以及如何表达我的情绪，而不是愤怒，不是眼泪，也不是陷入抑郁。
Depression has got too hard to deal with by myself, so that's 25-year-old decisions, putting yourself in therapy.
抑郁症太难以独自应对，所以这是 25 岁时的决定，让自己接受治疗。
Yeah.
是的。
I couldn't imagine me at 17 owning a house.
我无法想象自己 17 岁时拥有一套房子。
It just wouldn't work out.
这就是行不通的。
I would throw parties all the time.
我总是举办派对。
[LAUGHS]
[笑]
To paraphrase Corinthians, when Claressa was a kid, she had the dreams of a kid.
用科林蒂安的话来说，当克拉丽莎还是个孩子的时候，她就有一个孩子的梦想。
She told me when she was 16 that she wanted to have 10 children by the age of 26, not factoring in the difficult math of that or how 10 pregnancies might affect her boxing career.
她 16 岁时告诉我，她希望在 26 岁时生 10 个孩子，没有考虑到这个困难的数学计算，也没有考虑到 10 次怀孕可能会如何影响她的拳击生涯。
She laughs about that now, but the spirit of that dream has stayed with her-- surrounding herself with family, being a protector.
现在她对此一笑置之，但那个梦想的精神一直伴随着她——与家人在一起，成为一个保护者。
And slowly, the details became more realistic.
慢慢地，细节变得更加现实。
She thought winning the gold medals would lead to a bunch of endorsement deals and that she could buy a house not just for herself, but for her mom, preferably somewhere other than Flint, which can be pretty rough.
她认为赢得金牌会带来一堆代言协议，她不仅可以为自己买房子，还可以为她的妈妈买房子，最好是在弗林特以外的地方，因为那里可能会很艰难。
But the endorsements didn't materialize.
但这些支持并没有兑现。
So she made the transition from the amateurs to the pros, started earning a steady living as a boxer.
因此，她从业余爱好者过渡到职业选手，开始以拳击手的身份过着稳定的生活。
And she thought she could at least convince her family to move away with her, which is why it was surprising to me that she wound up with a house in Flint.
她认为她至少可以说服她的家人和她一起搬走，这就是为什么她最终在弗林特买了一栋房子让我感到惊讶。
I remember the goal that you had was to get out of Flint.
我记得你的目标是离开弗林特。
Mhm.
嗯。
Sue Jaye Johnson That was one of the reasons why you wanted to get the gold medal, so that you and your family could get out of Flint, is you wouldn't have to live there.
Sue Jaye Johnson：这就是你想获得金牌的原因之一，这样你和你的家人就可以离开弗林特，因为你不必住在那里。
I just know I wanted a better life for myself.
我只知道我想要让自己过上更好的生活。
I wanted to be more financially stable.
我想在财务上更加稳定。
I wanted to have food, a bed.
我想要食物，想要一张床。
So I don't really think it was not being in Flint.
所以我真的不认为它不是在弗林特。
I think it was more of like, I just don't want to be poor.
我认为这更像是，我只是不想变得贫穷。
And what about getting your family out?
那么让你的家人出去怎么样？
You used to talk a lot about getting your family out of Flint, like keep them safe.
你曾经经常谈论如何让你的家人离开弗林特，比如保证他们的安全。
Over time, I've also tried that.
随着时间的推移，我也尝试过。
When I moved to Florida, my younger brother moved with me.
当我搬到佛罗里达时，我的弟弟和我一起搬了。
But my younger sister and my mother wouldn't come.
但我妹妹和我妈妈不肯来。
It was like, all right, so now I'm just in Florida with none of my family, except my little brother.
就好像，好吧，所以现在我就在佛罗里达州，除了我的弟弟之外，没有我的家人。
Can y'all be quiet a little bit?
你们能安静一点吗？
While we were talking, four of Claressa's nieces were huddled together on the big, gray sectional sofa in the living room.
当我们谈话时，克拉丽莎的四个侄女挤在客厅的灰色大组合沙发上。
Her nieces and nephews are over a lot these days, playing video games, jumping in the pool.
她的侄女和侄子这些天经常出去玩，玩电子游戏，在游泳池里跳。
She's strict with them sometimes when the house gets messy.
有时当房子变得乱七八糟时，她会对他们很严格。
She makes her nephew, Fat Daddy, do the vacuuming.
她让她的侄子胖爸爸负责吸尘。
But she likes having them all there.
但她喜欢把它们都放在那里。
And there aren't 10 of them, there are 11.
而且不是10个，而是11个。
She's filled her house with a bevy of kids like she wanted, just not in the way she expected, which is true generally for her at the moment.
她的房子里充满了一群她想要的孩子，只是不是以她期望的方式，目前对她来说通常都是这样。
The life she has now with the house in Flint?
她现在在弗林特的房子过着怎样的生活？
It's not what she imagined, but it fits all her needs and desires.
这不是她想象的那样，但却符合她所有的需要和愿望。
It's what boxers do.
这就是拳击手所做的。
They respond to what's thrown at them, and they adjust.
他们会对抛给他们的事情做出反应，并进行调整。
But she says, this isn't the end.
但她说，这还不是结束。
She still has big dreams.
她仍然有远大的梦想。
In fact, she just announced that she signed a multi-year deal to be a mixed martial arts fighter, where the money is better for women.
事实上，她刚刚宣布她签署了一份多年协议，成为一名综合格斗选手，其中的钱对女性来说更好。
She wants to buy a second house, a mansion in Vegas.
她想买第二套房子，即拉斯维加斯的一座豪宅。
Sue Jaye Johnson.
苏·杰·约翰逊。
She's a writer and filmmaker.
她是一位作家和电影制片人。
Her film T-Rex, about Claressa's journey to the Olympics, you can find at PBS.org.
您可以在 PBS.org 上找到她的电影《霸王龙》，讲述克拉丽莎的奥运会之旅。
Coming up, a woman at 25 who decides, after years of saying no to her parents about something, to try it their way for once.
该剧讲述了一名 25 岁的女性在多年来对父母的某些事情拒绝之后，决定尝试一次他们的方式。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues.
芝加哥公共广播电台一分钟后我们的节目仍在继续。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today's program, 25.
今天的节目，25。
To commemorate our 25th year on the air, we have stories today about people, human beings, who were created the same year as our program.
为了纪念我们播出 25 周年，今天我们讲述一些关于人类的故事，他们与我们的节目同年诞生。
We have stories of 25-year-olds.
我们有25岁年轻人的故事。
And I just want to note, before we go to the next story, that the one other thing that we have done to mark our 25th year is that we set up a web page with a list of favorite episodes from over the years.
我只想指出，在我们开始下一个故事之前，我们为纪念 25 周年所做的另一件事是，我们建立了一个网页，列出了多年来最喜欢的剧集。
It has the very easy to remember address, thisamericanlife.org/25years.
它的地址很容易记住，thisamericanlife.org/25years。
And if you go there, you'll see a mix of audience favorites, but also some deep cuts I bet you have never heard or you probably don't remember if you did hear.
如果你去那里，你会看到观众最喜欢的作品，但也会看到一些我敢打赌你从未听过的深刻剪辑，或者你可能不记得你是否听过。
My personal suggestion among those, OK, is the show called "I am From the Private Sector and I'm Here to Help," where Nancy Updike takes you into this world of not the American military, but the private contractors who worked alongside the military in Baghdad in 2004.
我个人的建议是，《我来自私营部门，我是来帮忙的》节目，南希·厄普代克带你进入这个世界，这里不是美国军队，而是 2004 年在巴格达与军队一起工作的私人承包商。
And the episode is part-- I don't know-- like The Office or Veep, and part a war.
这一集的一部分——我不知道——就像《办公室》或《副总统》一样，还有一部分是战争。
There are lots of other shows in addition to that one ready for your holiday listening while you're cooking, or shopping online, or whatever.
除了这个节目之外，还有很多其他节目可供您在假期做饭、在线购物或其他任何时候收听。
Anyway, thisamericanlife.org/25years.
无论如何，thisamericanlife.org/25years。
And with that, we have arrived at Act Three of our show-- Act Three, The Rest of His Life.
至此，我们进入了节目的第三幕——第三幕，他的余生。
So some of us here at the radio show read this essay back in June that really got to us that Mitchell S.
因此，我们中的一些人在六月份的时候在广播节目中读到了这篇文章，这篇文章真正让我们印象深刻的是米切尔·S·
Jackson wrote about a 25-year-old.
杰克逊写的是一个 25 岁的人。
The essay's about Ahmaud Arbery, who was 25 when he was pursued by three white men in Georgia and shot to death while out for a run.
这篇文章讲述的是 25 岁的艾哈迈德·阿贝里 (Ahmaud Arbery)，他在佐治亚州外出跑步时被三名白人追赶并开枪打死。
The essay was published in Runner's World magazine.
这篇文章发表在《跑步者世界》杂志上。
And as you'll hear, it leans into the running parts of things just a little bit, but it's also so much more than that.
正如您将听到的，它只是稍微倾斜于事物的运行部分，但它也远不止于此。
Mitchell talked to Ahmaud's closest friends and his family members to create a portrait of Ahmaud Arbery that is really unlike anything else we had seen about him.
米切尔与艾哈迈德最亲密的朋友和家人交谈，为艾哈迈德·阿贝里创作了一幅肖像，这幅肖像与我们所见过的任何其他人都不同。
We asked Mitchell to adapt a version of his essay for our program today.
我们要求米切尔为我们今天的节目改编他的文章的一个版本。
Here he is.
他在这里。
Ahmaud Arbery, by all accounts, loved to run.
从各方面来看，艾哈迈德·阿贝里都很喜欢跑步。
But he wasn't, by his own account, a runner.
但据他自己的说法，他并不是一名跑步者。
There's no evidence of Maud training for 10Ks, or full or half marathons, or obsessing over his miles or PR times, but he loved it.
没有证据表明莫德训练过 10 公里、全程或半程马拉松，也没有痴迷于他的里程或个人纪录，但他喜欢这些。
Maud would run in a white T-shirt and khaki shorts.
莫德会穿着白色 T 恤和卡其色短裤跑步。
He'd run shirtless in basketball shorts.
他穿着篮球短裤赤裸上身跑步。
He'd run in a tank top and hoop shoes.
他穿着背心和篮球鞋跑步。
As his day-one homeboy, Keem, sums it, he could run in anything.
正如他第一天的家乡男孩基姆总结的那样，他可以参加任何比赛。
When Keem was home from college, he and Maud would cruise to one end of the longest-spanning bridge in all of Georgia.
当基姆从大学回家时，他和莫德会巡游到佐治亚州最长的跨度大桥的一端。
They'd do some warm-up stretching and jaunt back and forth across it, a distance of just under 3 miles.
他们会做一些热身伸展运动，然后来回短跑，距离不到 3 英里。
The pair would keep a steady pace.
两人将保持稳定的步伐。
But sometimes, Keem says, Maud would push him.
但有时，基姆说，莫德会逼他。
On February 23 of this year, Maud went out for a run.
今年2月23日，莫德出去跑步。
The location of this run was a subdivision in Glynn County called Satilla Shores.
这次跑步的地点是格林县一个名为萨蒂拉海岸的分区。
It's a neighborhood of waterfront properties, of upper and middle-class families, of retired folk and fresh transplants.
这是一个拥有海滨房产、上层和中产阶级家庭、退休人员和新移民的社区。
No one can know for sure the route he took before reaching Satilla Shores, but he'd set off from his home.
没有人能确切知道他到达萨蒂拉海岸之前所走的路线，但他是从家里出发的。
So that means there's a good chance that on his run, he passed homes flying a Confederate flag or the "Don't Tread on Me" Gadsden flag, and hella homes warning "No Trespassing."
因此，这意味着他在逃跑过程中很有可能经过悬挂南方联盟旗帜或“不要踩我”加兹登旗帜的房屋，以及警告“禁止侵入”的房屋。
On February 23 when Maud went jogging, he was dressed in light-colored low-top Nikes, a white T-shirt, and khaki cargo shorts.
2月23日，莫德去慢跑时，穿着浅色低帮耐克鞋、白色T恤和卡其色工装短裤。
Maud, who was 25 years old, jogged alone.
25岁的莫德独自慢跑。
Maud's family home in Brunswick, the one where he lived at the time he was killed, is a mere 2 miles from Satailla Shores.
莫德在布伦瑞克的家，也就是他被杀时所居住的家，距离萨塔拉海岸仅 2 英里。
But in meaningful ways, it's almost another country.
但从某种意义上说，它几乎是另一个国家。
Matter of fact, the poverty rate of what young Black residents call The Wick is a staggering 38%.
事实上，被年轻黑人居民称为“The Wick”的贫困率高达 38%，令人震惊。
The Wick is where Ahmaud Marquez Arbery was born on May 8, 1994.
The Wick 是 Ahmaud Marquez Arbery 于 1994 年 5 月 8 日出生的地方。
He was the third beloved child of Wanda Cooper-Jones and Marcus Arbery, Sr. Their working-class family included his older brother Marcus Buck, Jr., and sister Jasmine.
他是万达·库珀-琼斯和老马库斯·阿伯里的第三个心爱的孩子。他们的工人阶级家庭包括他的哥哥小马库斯·巴克和妹妹贾斯敏。
The family called Ahmaud, Quez, a shortened version of his middle name, while his friends called him Maud.
家人称艾哈迈德为奎兹，这是他中间名的缩写，而他的朋友则称他为莫德。
Maud had a slight gap in his front teeth and dark skin forever burnished by hours outside.
莫德的门牙上有一道轻微的缝隙，深色的皮肤在外面呆了几个小时后永远变得光滑。
When Maud was in middle school, the family moved to a small, white house on Boykin Ridge Drive, where Maud continued to share a room with his brother.
当莫德上中学时，全家搬到了博伊金岭大道上的一栋白色小房子，莫德继续与他的兄弟共用一个房间。
Per his big bro, Buck, Maud was the slob.
根据他的哥哥巴克的说法，莫德是个懒鬼。
In high school, Maud landed a gig at the local McDonald's.
高中时，莫德在当地的麦当劳找到了一份工作。
He did it to keep some scratch in his pocket, but also to help his mother, who often worked two jobs.
他这样做是为了在口袋里保留一点零用钱，同时也是为了帮助经常打两份工的母亲。
Some days, Maud's homeboy, Keem, would swoop in from work and wheel them to the Golden Isles YMCA.
有时，莫德的同伙基姆会从工作中突然赶来，将他们推到黄金群岛基督教青年会。
They would hoop or work out for six or seven hours straight before bopping over to the Glynn Place Mall for the fries and wing combo at American Deli, and heading right back for beaucoup hours more of playing and training.
他们会连续打六到七个小时的篮球或锻炼，然后去格林广场购物中心的美国熟食店吃炸薯条和鸡翅套餐，然后再回去继续打球和训练。
Back then, Maud favored slim jeans, bright-colored polos and rugbys, and kept his hair shorn low with the crispiest of edge-ups.
那时，莫德喜欢修身牛仔裤、色彩鲜艳的马球衫和橄榄球衫，并把头发剪得很低，边缘向上。
Maud played football from the peewee league through high school, and ended up an undersized varsity linebacker.
莫德从小联盟踢橄榄球到高中，最终成为一名身材矮小的大学队线卫。
But he was also a team captain who led his Brunswick High School Pirates in pre-game chants.
但他也是一名队长，带领不伦瑞克高中海盗队在赛前高喊口号。
Though never cock-diesel strong, Maud owned a super-hearted fearlessness on the field and often astonished his coaches with big hits, and his senior year, made the storied Florida-Georgia War of the Border all-star game.
尽管莫德从来都不是一个坚强的人，但他在球场上拥有超强的无畏精神，经常以巨大的打击让他的教练感到惊讶，而他的高四那年，他还入选了传奇的佛罗里达州-佐治亚州边境战争的全明星赛。
Not to mention, this was South Georgia football, so Maud competed in a league that produced pros and played before some of the biggest high school football crowds in the country.
更不用说，这是南乔治亚州的橄榄球，所以莫德参加了一个培养职业球员的联赛，并在全国一些最大的高中橄榄球观众面前比赛。
Before he was an all-star, though, Maud tore his ACL and meniscus in a JV game.
然而，在成为全明星之前，莫德在一场合资比赛中撕裂了前十字韧带和半月板。
While a less dedicated player might have given up, he committed to a laborious rehab.
虽然一个不那么专注的球员可能会放弃，但他致力于艰苦的康复。
His junior year, he wore a leg brace, a hindrance that diminished his chance of playing in college.
大三那年，他戴着腿部支架，这一障碍减少了他在大学打球的机会。
Like Maud, I was a passionate high school athlete.
和莫德一样，我也是一名充满激情的高中运动员。
My sport was hoop.
我的运动是篮球。
Like Maud, no major college program offered me a scholarship.
像莫德一样，没有任何主要的大学课程为我提供奖学金。
Both Maud and me attended small schools in our home state.
莫德和我都在我们家乡的小学校上学。
Maud quit after a year and returned to Brunswick and his mother's home.
莫德一年后辞职，回到不伦瑞克和他母亲的家。
I, too, quit my first community college.
我也退出了我的第一所社区大学。
But unlike Maud, there was no need to return home to my mother's cramped apartment, as I was living there all the while.
但与莫德不同的是，我没有必要回到我母亲狭窄的公寓，因为我一直住在那里。
The year after he graduated, Maud was arrested for carrying a gun and sentenced to five years of probation, which he violated by shoplifting.
毕业第二年，莫德因携带枪支被捕，并因入店行窃而被判处五年缓刑。
A few years after I graduated high school, I was arrested with drugs and a gun, and sentenced to 16 months in an Oregon state prison.
高中毕业几年后，我因携带毒品和枪支被捕，并在俄勒冈州监狱被判处 16 个月监禁。
At 25, Maud was a runner who had every reason to believe his life had more miles ahead of him than behind him.
25 岁的莫德是一位跑步者，他有充分的理由相信，他的人生前面的路比后面的路还要长。
At 25, I enrolled in the first of two graduate writing programs.
25 岁时，我参加了两个研究生写作课程中的第一个。
Today, Maud-- dear God, why-- is dead.
今天，莫德——亲爱的上帝，为什么——死了。
And I, by grace, am a writer-professor hurtling toward middle age.
出于恩典，我是一位正奔向中年的作家兼教授。
At 1:04 PM on February 23, a security camera shows 25-year-old Ahmaud Arbery wandering up a sunny patch of narrow road and stopping on the lawn of a sand-colored, under-construction bungalow addressed 220 Satilla Drive.
2 月 23 日下午 1 点 04 分，监控摄像头显示，25 岁的艾哈迈德·阿伯里 (Ahmaud Arbery) 在阳光明媚的狭窄道路上漫步，停在萨蒂拉大道 220 号一栋正在建设的沙色平房的草坪上。
Maybe he wondered what the skeleton of beams, and sheetrock, and piping, and wire would look like when it was finished.
也许他想知道梁、石膏板、管道和电线的骨架完工后会是什么样子。
Maybe he imagined a family who could afford to live in a place so close to the water.
也许他想象的是一个有能力住在离水这么近的地方的家庭。
What we know for sure is that while inside, Maud touched none of the construction materials laying about.
我们可以肯定的是，莫德在里面时没有碰过周围的任何建筑材料。
We also know that Maud wasn't the first person whose curiosity urged them into the site.
我们还知道，莫德并不是第一个出于好奇心而进入该网站的人。
Security cameras recorded a white couple one evening, a pair of white boys one day, and on four occasions, what appears to be the same person-- a slim, young Black man with wild natural hair and tattoos on his shoulders and arms.
一天晚上，监控摄像头记录了一对白人夫妇，一天记录了一对白人男孩，并且有四次记录到似乎是同一个人——一位身材苗条、年轻的黑人男子，留着自然的头发，肩膀和手臂上有纹身。
The homeowner will confirm that nothing was ever stolen or damaged during any of the visits.
房主将确认在任何一次访问期间没有任何东西被盗或损坏。
At 1:07 PM, a neighbor spying on Maud called 911.
下午 1 点 07 分，一名监视莫德的邻居拨打了 911。
There's a guy in the house right now, he told the dispatcher, and went on to describe Maud-- Black guy, white T-shirt.
现在房子里有一个人，他告诉调度员，然后继续描述莫德——黑人，白色 T 恤。
The dispatcher replied, I just need to know what he was doing wrong.
调度员回答说，我只想知道他做错了什么。
The caller watched Maud leave the site.
打电话的人看着莫德离开现场。
He's running down the street, he said to the dispatcher.
他正在街上跑，他对调度员说。
Maud jogged past the house located a few doors down of another neighbor, Gregory McMichael, an ex-cop that had once had his power to arrest stripped for failing to attend use-of-force training.
莫德慢跑着穿过另一位邻居格雷戈里·麦克迈克尔（Gregory McMichael）几扇门外的房子，格雷戈里·麦克迈克尔是一名前警察，曾因未参加使用武力训练而被剥夺了逮捕权。
Gregory and his son, Travis McMichael, armed themselves, the son with a shotgun and the father with a .357, and hopped in a white Ford pickup truck.
格雷戈里和他的儿子特拉维斯·麦克迈克尔武装起来，儿子拿着猎枪，父亲拿着 0.357 步枪，然后跳上一辆白色福特皮卡车。
From his front yard, William "Roddie" Bryan saw his neighbors hounding Maud, jumped in his pickup, and joined the chase.
威廉·“罗迪”·布莱恩在自家前院看到邻居正在追赶莫德，于是跳上他的皮卡车加入了追逐。
Maud ran and doubled back to elude the McMichaels, maybe recalling all the times he'd juked a would-be tackler on the field, only to find himself facing down Bryan's pickup.
莫德跑过去，折回来躲避麦克迈克尔一家，也许还记得他在场上嘲笑一名潜在铲球者的所有次数，却发现自己面对着布莱恩的皮卡。
The elder McMichael, Gregory, climbed into the bed of his son's truck, the one with the Confederate decal toolbox, armed with his .357.
老麦克迈克尔·格雷戈里 (Gregory) 爬进了他儿子的卡车的后备箱，那辆卡车上贴着南方联盟贴花工具箱，手里拿着他的 .357。
He called 911.
他拨打了 911。
There's a Black male running down the street, Gregory told dispatch.
格雷戈里告诉调度员，有一名黑人男性在街上奔跑。
Maud fled for minutes that must have felt like an eon.
莫德逃了几分钟，感觉就像过了亿万年。
He found himself running toward a red-faced Travis McMichael who stood inside the door of his truck with his shotgun aimed.
他发现自己跑向红脸特拉维斯·麦克迈克尔，后者站在卡车门内，手里拿着猎枪瞄准。
Maud zagged one way, then the other.
莫德转向一侧，然后转向另一侧。
Stop right there, damn it.
就在那里停下来，该死。
Stop, shouted Gregory.
停下来，格雷戈里喊道。
Maud crossed in front of the hood of the truck where Travis headed him off and shot him in no more than a heartbeat.
莫德穿过卡车引擎盖前，特拉维斯挡住了他，眨眼间就开枪射杀了他。
The buckshot hit Maud in the chest, puncturing his right lung, ribs, and sternum.
铅弹击中莫德的胸部，刺穿了他的右肺、肋骨和胸骨。
And yet somehow, he wrestled with Travis for the shotgun.
但不知何故，他与特拉维斯争夺猎枪。
And yet somehow, he managed to punch at him, fighting for what he must have sensed was the rest of his life.
但不知何故，他成功地向他打了一拳，为他一定感觉到的余生而战。
Travis fired his shotgun a second time, grazing Maud's hand.
特拉维斯第二次开枪，擦伤了莫德的手。
He fired a third point-blank shot, this time piercing Maud in his upper chest.
他第三次近距离射击，这次击穿了莫德的上胸部。
Shotgun in hand, Travis backed away, watched Maud collapse, and made not the slightest effort to tend him.
特拉维斯手里拿着猎枪，后退了一步，看着莫德倒下，却没有做出丝毫的努力来照顾他。
Per the police report, his father, still clutching his revolver, ran to where Maud lay face down, blood leaking out of his wounds, rolled him on his back, and checked for weapons that he, nor no one else, found.
根据警方的报告，他的父亲仍然抓着左轮手枪，跑到莫德脸朝下躺着的地方，鲜血从他的伤口中渗出，把他翻到背上，检查了他或其他人没有发现的武器。
Glynn County police sirened onto Satilla Drive within seconds of the slaying.
凶杀案发生后几秒钟内，格林县警方就向萨蒂拉大道发出警报。
They cordoned the scene and investigated.
他们封锁了现场并进行调查。
They questioned the McMichaels, Gregory's hands bloody from rolling Maud onto his back.
他们审问了麦克迈克尔夫妇，格雷戈里的双手因将莫德翻到背上而流血。
They also questioned William Bryan.
他们还询问了威廉·布莱恩。
And in an act that is, itself, another violence, they let all three go about their merry way as free men for almost three months.
这一行为本身就是另一种暴力，他们让这三个人像自由人一样快乐地生活了近三个月。
But before those squad cars reached the scene, Travis McMichael, per Brian's statement to investigators in May, called the 25-year-old whose life he'd just ceased for jogging a fucking N-word.
但根据布莱恩 5 月份向调查人员提供的声明，在警车到达现场之前，特拉维斯·麦克迈克尔 (Travis McMichael) 对这名刚刚因慢跑而结束生命的 25 岁男子说了一个该死的 N 字眼。
Ask yourself, who deserves to run?
问问自己，谁值得参选？
Who has the right?
谁有权利？
Ask yourself, who's a runner?
问问自己，谁是跑步者？
What do they look like?
他们长什么样子？
Ask yourself, where do they live, and where do they run?
问问自己，他们住在哪里，跑到哪里？
And where can't they live, and where can't they run?
哪里不能住，哪里不能跑？
Ask, what are the sanctions for asserting their right to live and run or, goddamn-you-me, to even exist in the world?
问问，维护他们生存和运行的权利，或者，天哪，你我，甚至在世界上存在的权利，有什么制裁？
Then question that, too.
然后也提出这个问题。
The NAACP once defined lynching as a death in which, one, there was evidence that a person was killed; two, the death was illegal; and three, a group of at least three actors participated in the killing.
全国有色人种协进会曾将私刑定义为一种死亡，其一，有证据表明一个人被杀；二、死亡违法；三是至少由三名演员组成的团体参与了杀戮。
On February 23, 2020, a Black man out for a run was lynched in Glynn County, Georgia.
2020 年 2 月 23 日，一名外出跑步的黑人在佐治亚州格林县被私刑处死。
He was 25 years young.
当时他25岁。
His name was Ahmaud Marquez Arbery, called Quez by his beloveds, and Maud by most others.
他的名字叫艾哈迈德·马尔克斯·阿伯里，他的爱人称他为奎兹，大多数人则称他为莫德。
And what I want you to know about Maud is that he had a gift for impressions and a special knack for mimicking Martin Lawrence.
我想让你们了解莫德的是，他具有给人留下深刻印象的天赋，以及模仿马丁·劳伦斯的特殊技巧。
And what I want you to know about Maud is that he was fond of sweets and requested his mother's fudge cake for the birthday parties he often shared with his big sister.
我想让你了解莫德的是，他喜欢甜食，在他经常和姐姐一起参加的生日聚会上，他会要求妈妈做软糖蛋糕。
That he signed the cards he bought for his mother, "Baby Boy." That he jammed his pinky hooping in high school, and instead of getting it treated like his sister Jasmine advised, he let it heal on its own, forever bent.
他在给他母亲“宝贝男孩”买的卡片上签名。他在高中时卡住了小指圈，并没有像他姐姐茉莉建议的那样对待它，而是让它自行愈合，永远弯曲。
What I want you to know about Maud is that the love of his short life, Shenice, told me he sometimes recorded their conversations so he could listen to her voice when they were apart.
关于莫德，我想让你了解的是，他短暂一生的挚爱谢妮丝告诉我，他有时会录下他们的谈话，这样当他们分开时，他就可以听到她的声音。
What you should know about Maud is that he adored his nephews, Marcus III and Micah Arbery, that when they were upset as babies, he'd take them for long walks in their stroller until they calmed.
关于莫德，你应该知道的是，他很喜欢他的侄子马库斯三世和米卡·阿伯里，当他们还是婴儿时心烦意乱时，他会带着他们在婴儿车里长时间散步，直到他们平静下来。
What you should know about Maud is that when a college friend asked his big sister which parent she'd call first if ever in serious trouble, she said, neither, that she'd call him.
关于莫德，你应该知道的是，当一位大学朋友问他的姐姐，如果遇到严重麻烦时，她会先给哪位家长打电话，她说，她也不会，她会打电话给他。
What I want you to know about Maud is that he was an avid connoisseur of the McChicken sandwich with cheese.
关于莫德，我想让您了解的是，他是芝士麦鸡三明治的狂热鉴赏家。
You should know that Maud dreamed of a career as an electrician and of owning a construction company.
您应该知道莫德梦想成为一名电工并拥有一家建筑公司。
You should know that he told his boys that he wanted them all to buy a huge plot of land, build houses on it, and live in a gated community with their families.
你应该知道，他告诉他的孩子们，他希望他们都买一大块土地，在上面盖房子，和家人一起住在一个封闭的社区里。
You should know that Maud never flew on a plane, but wanderlusted for trips to Jamaica, Africa, Japan.
你应该知道，莫德从来没有坐过飞机，但热衷于去牙买加、非洲、日本旅行。
What you must know about Maud is that when Travis McMichael, Gregory McMichael, and William "Roddie" Bryan stalked and killed him less than three months shy of his 26th birthday, he left behind his mother, Wanda, his father, Marcus Sr., his brother, Buck, his sister, Jasmine, his maternal grandmother, Ella, his nephews, 6 uncles, 10 aunts, a host of cousins, all of whom are unimaginably, irrevocably, incontrovertibly poorer from his absence.
关于莫德，你必须知道的是，当特拉维斯·麦克迈克尔、格雷戈里·麦克迈克尔和威廉·“罗迪”·布莱恩在距离他 26 岁生日不到三个月的时候跟踪并杀害了他，他留下了他的母亲旺达、父亲马库斯老、他的兄弟巴克、他的妹妹贾斯敏、他的外祖母埃拉、他的侄子、6 个叔叔、10 个阿姨、许多表兄弟姐妹，他们都是由于他的缺席，他的生活变得难以想象、不可挽回、无可争议地变得更加贫穷。
Ahmaud Marquez Arbery was more than a viral video.
Ahmaud Marquez Arbery 不仅仅是一个病毒视频。
He was more than a hashtag or a name on a list of tragic victims.
他不仅仅是一个标签或悲剧受害者名单上的一个名字。
He was more than a headline, or an op-ed, or a news package, or the news cycle.
他不仅仅是一个头条新闻，或者一篇专栏文章，或者一个新闻包，或者新闻周期。
He was more than a retweet or shared post.
他不仅仅是转发或分享帖子。
He, doubtless, was more than our likes, or emoji tears, or hearts, or praying hands.
毫无疑问，他不仅仅是我们的喜欢、表情符号的眼泪、爱心或祈祷的手。
He was more than an RIP T-shirt or placard.
他不仅仅是一件 RIP T 恤或标语牌。
He, for damn sure, was more than the latest reason for your liberal white friends' ephemeral outrage.
毫无疑问，他不仅仅是你们自由派白人朋友短暂愤怒的最新原因。
He was more than a rally or a march.
他不仅仅是一次集会或游行。
He was more than a symbol, more than a movement, more than a cause.
他不仅仅是一个象征，不仅仅是一场运动，不仅仅是一项事业。
He was loved.
他被爱着。
Mitchell S.
米切尔·S。
Jackson.
杰克逊.
The full essay that he wrote about Ahmaud Arbery, you can read online.
他写的关于艾哈迈德·阿贝里的完整文章，您可以在线阅读。
It was in Runner's World.
那是在《跑步者世界》中。
He's a poet, a fiction writer.
他是一位诗人，一位小说家。
His latest book is a memoir.
他的最新著作是一本回忆录。
It is called Survival Math, Notes on an All-American Family.
它被称为生存数学，全美家庭笔记。
The McMichaels and William Bryan have been indicted on nine charges each, including malice murder and four counts of felony murder.
麦克迈克尔夫妇和威廉·布莱恩各被起诉九项罪名，包括恶意谋杀和四项重罪谋杀罪。
All three men have pleaded not guilty.
三名男子均不认罪。
Act Four, Bachelorette in Arlington.
第四幕，阿灵顿的单身女郎。
Linah Mohammad turned 25 this July in maybe the last place that she expected to be-- back at her parents' house in Texas.
今年 7 月，莉娜·穆罕默德 (Linah Mohammad) 迎来了 25 岁生日，而她可能最不想去的地方就是——回到她位于德克萨斯州的父母家。
She had fought hard to get out of that home.
为了离开那个家，她进行了艰苦的斗争。
Her parents are Palestinian with traditional values.
她的父母是具有传统价值观的巴勒斯坦人。
And of the four kids in her family, Linah is the only one to move out before getting married.
在她家里的四个孩子中，莉娜是唯一一个在结婚前搬出去的。
And without getting married, she moved away to pursue a career.
她没有结婚，就搬出去追求事业。
Being independent is very important to her.
独立对她来说非常重要。
But then COVID hit.
但后来新冠疫情袭来。
Linah explains what happened.
莉娜解释了发生的事情。
After two months in lockdown alone, I thought I was doing OK.
独自隔离两个月后，我认为我做得还不错。
But when I did a story for my job at The Washington Post where I admitted to a former prisoner, who was kept in solitary confinement in Iran, that I was losing my mind, and did he have any advice on how I could cope, my boss gently suggested that maybe moving home to Texas, back in with my parents, was the way to go.
但当我为《华盛顿邮报》撰写一篇报道时，我向一名被单独监禁在伊朗的前囚犯承认，我正在失去理智，他对我如何应对有何建议吗？
It was a hard decision to make.
这是一个艰难的决定。
To my surprise, being home was actually fun.
令我惊讶的是，在家其实很有趣。
I forgot how much my parents act like a comedy duo.
我忘记了我的父母表现得多么像喜剧二人组。
They make fun of each other.
他们互相取笑。
When my dad, who I call Baba, misplaces his tools, he'll start yelling and gesturing wildly.
当我的父亲（我称之为巴巴）放错了工具时，他会开始大喊大叫并疯狂地打手势。
Mama will start mimicking him until he realizes how ridiculous he looks and laughs.
妈妈会开始模仿他，直到他意识到自己看起来有多可笑并笑起来。
I'm their only child who grew up in both Jordan and the US, so the one thing they're in alliance on is making fun of how American I am.
我是他们唯一的孩子，在约旦和美国长大，所以他们结盟的一件事就是取笑我是多么美国人。
This was the good side of being home.
这是在家的好处。
The bad side?
坏的一面？
I was immediately reminded of all the ways my parents felt responsible for directing my life.
我立即想起了父母对指导我的生活负有责任的所有方式。
Mama interrupted a work Zoom meeting to tell me to make my bed and "Walik mshan ALLAH, ratby hal mazbaleh!" which means, please, for the sake of God, clean this dumpster.
妈妈打断了工作 Zoom 会议，告诉我整理床铺，然后“Walik mshan ALLAH，ratby hal mazbaleh！”这意味着，看在上帝的份上，请清理这个垃圾箱。
We also get into screaming matches about how I don't pray enough, which is a funny thing to scream about.
我们还因为我祈祷不够而进行尖叫比赛，这是一件有趣的事情。
And always, we fight about the fact that I am not yet married.
我们总是因为我还没有结婚而吵架。
I'd be fixing my hijab in the kitchen, and she'd sneak up behind me.
我在厨房里修理我的头巾，她就会偷偷溜到我身后。
Linah, if you wear it high like that, your hairline will recede, and you'll end up alone.
莉娜，如果你把它戴得那么高，你的发际线就会后退，你最终会孤独一人。
What?
什么？
I'm only trying to help.
我只是想帮忙。
In her eyes, I should have gotten married by at least 23.
在她看来，我至少应该在23岁之前结婚。
And now I was about to turn 25, which sent Mama into panic mode.
现在我即将 25 岁了，这让妈妈陷入了恐慌。
25.
25.
For many Arab women like me, turning 25 feels like the cutoff age for eligibility, especially if you come from a lower class family, which I do.
对于像我这样的许多阿拉伯女性来说，25 岁感觉像是获得资格的截止年龄，特别是如果你来自下层阶级家庭，我也是如此。
I grew up hearing about that age and fearing it.
我从小就听说过那个年龄，并且害怕它。
At 25, you start getting called A'anis, which means spinster.
25 岁时，你开始被称为 A'anis，意思是老处女。
Mama will say, do you think you're still young?
妈妈会说，你觉得你还年轻吗？
Of course, I'm still young.
当然，我还年轻。
To which she'll respond, "Elly kaddek Endhom O'rr wlad," which means, other girls your age have so many kids, it's uncountable.
她会回应“Elly kaddek Endhom O'rr wlad”，意思是，其他和你同龄的女孩有很多孩子，无法计数。
The thing is, they act like I don't want to get married, but I do.
问题是，他们表现得好像我不想结婚，但我确实想结婚。
I want to find someone.
我想找人。
In fact, I always imagined I'd be married by now.
事实上，我一直以为我现在已经结婚了。
I just didn't want to do it the way my parents expected-- a traditional arranged marriage.
我只是不想按照我父母期望的方式去做——传统的包办婚姻。
I thought it would happen naturally.
我以为这会自然发生。
It hasn't.
还没有。
I even almost got married when I was 19, but that was a disaster.
我什至在 19 岁时差点就结婚了，但那是一场灾难。
Since then, I've tried my way.
从那时起，我就开始尝试我的方法。
I've dated in college.
我在大学约会过。
I've also used Tinder, Bumble, Minder, which is the Muslim Tinder, and Muzmatch, an unfortunately-named Muslim dating app.
我还使用过 Tinder、Bumble、Minder（即穆斯林 Tinder）和 Muzmatch（一款名称不幸的穆斯林约会应用程序）。
It has not worked.
但它没有起作用。
One guy really understood the Arab side of me, but couldn't speak English.
有一个人真正了解我阿拉伯人的一面，但不会说英语。
Another was so funny, but looked down on women who swore.
还有一个很搞笑，但是看不起说脏话的女人。
The guy I was engaged to was charming, but so controlling that he was adamantly opposed to me interviewing men, which is hard when you're a journalist.
与我订婚的那个人很迷人，但控制欲太强，以至于他坚决反对我采访男人，这对于一名记者来说很难。
After all that, I was still alone.
经历了这一切之后，我仍然孤身一人。
So a few weeks before my 25th birthday, when Mama got a call, seemingly out of the blue, about an eligible boy, I did something I'd never done before.
因此，在我 25 岁生日前几周，当妈妈突然接到一个关于一个合格男孩的电话时，我做了一件我以前从未做过的事情。
I said, OK, I'll meet him, partly to please her and get her off my back and partly because I realized, if I was so bad at choosing for myself, who's to say my parents couldn't do better?
我说，好吧，我会见他，部分是为了取悦她，让她摆脱我的困扰，部分是因为我意识到，如果我这么不善于为自己选择，谁能说我的父母不能做得更好呢？
So I agreed to a traditional setup.
所以我同意传统的设置。
Our mothers arranged for our first date, with both sets of parents, in my family's living room.
我们的母亲安排了我们与双方父母的第一次约会，地点是在我家的客厅里。
Mama helped me get ready.
妈妈帮我做好准备。
As I was getting dressed, she reminded me of all the things I couldn't do.
当我穿衣服时，她提醒我所有我不能做的事情。
Don't you dare tell him that you have PCOS.
你不敢告诉他你患有多囊卵巢综合症。
That's Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome.
这就是多囊卵巢综合症。
It could make him worried you can't have kids.
这可能会让他担心你不能生孩子。
Don't bring up that you're taking antidepressants, have anxiety, or that you go to therapy, or that you were married-- it was technically just an engagement-- or that you've ever dated before.
不要说你正在服用抗抑郁药，有焦虑症，或者你正在接受治疗，或者你已经结婚了——从技术上讲，这只是订婚——或者你以前约会过。
If he asks about any of this, change the subject.
如果他问起这些，请改变话题。
My date arrived.
我的约会对象到了。
He was actually kind of cute in person, but it was awkward.
他本人其实很可爱，但有点尴尬。
Our parents were on a date with us.
我们的父母和我们约会。
Though it became a rare glimpse into what my parents are like on dates.
尽管这成为了我难得一睹我父母在约会时的样子的机会。
Mama, it turns out, is an oversharer, and Baba is super chill.
事实证明，妈妈是一个过度分享者，而爸爸则非常冷静。
On these living-room dates, I shouldn't be the one asking the questions, because it's considered the man's job to initiate all conversation.
在这些客厅约会中，我不应该是提出问题的人，因为发起所有对话被认为是男人的工作。
But the guy isn't saying anything, so Baba jumped in, acting like my stand-in.
但那家伙什么也没说，所以爸爸插了进来，就像我的替身一样。
He knows what I'm looking for in a guy, so all his questions were secretly related to my dealbreakers, like I want to be with someone who speaks Arabic.
他知道我在寻找一个什么样的人，所以他所有的问题都秘密地与我的交易破坏者有关，就像我想和一个会说阿拉伯语的人在一起一样。
Baba started grilling him.
爸爸开始拷问他。
How good is your Arabic?
你的阿拉伯语有多好？
Can you read and write?
你会读和写吗？
His mom answered for him.
他的妈妈替他回答了。
Of course, he can.
当然，他可以。
Suddenly, the two parents were battling it out.
一时之间，父子二人陷入了争执。
Baba said, can you recite Quran?
巴巴说，你会背诵《古兰经》吗？
His mother jumped in.
他的母亲跳了进去。
Yes, and his voice is so beautiful.
是的，而且他的声音非常好听。
The guy interrupted her.
那家伙打断了她的话。
Actually, I can't.
事实上，我不能。
I burst out laughing.
我大笑起来。
I was on the fence.
我在栅栏上。
This man wouldn't even make eye contact with me.
这个男人甚至不肯与我进行眼神交流。
OK, so he's a shy guy.
好吧，所以他是个害羞的人。
That means I'd have to drastically tone myself down.
这意味着我必须大幅降低自己的语气。
But then when he told Baba that, for his job, he can live and work anywhere, I got excited.
但当他告诉爸爸，为了他的工作，他可以在任何地方生活和工作时，我很兴奋。
Other guys had always expected me to give up my career and follow theirs.
其他人一直希望我放弃自己的职业生涯并追随他们的脚步。
With this guy, I could keep my job and he could tag along.
有了这个人，我可以保住我的工作，他也可以跟着我。
So what if we have nothing else in common?
如果我们没有其他共同点怎么办？
But then his mom started talking to me.
但后来他妈妈开始和我说话。
I was telling her about my life in DC, blah, blah, blah, when she cut me off and said, yeah, I saw that in the ad.
我正在告诉她我在华盛顿的生活，等等，等等，当她打断我并说，是的，我在广告中看到了。
My mind just completely stopped.
我的思绪完全停止了。
The ad?
广告？
I tried not to show her that I was clearly surprised, but in my head I was like, what the fuck is this woman talking about?
我尽量不让她表现出我显然很惊讶，但我心里想，这个女人到底在说什么？
What ad?
什么广告？
I thought someone just happened to suggest to our mothers that we meet.
我以为有人碰巧向我们的母亲建议我们见面。
But there was an ad?
但有广告？
Mama, who clearly heard this, too, acted like she didn't.
妈妈也清楚地听到了这句话，也装作没有听到。
They changed the subject, but by the time we got to coffee, it was all I could think about.
他们改变了话题，但当我们喝咖啡的时候，我满脑子都是这个。
As soon as they left, Mama explained it wasn't her who put the ad out.
他们一离开，妈妈就解释说这则广告不是她发布的。
It was a friend.
那是一个朋友。
But Mama left it up and kept it from me because she thought I'd hate it.
但妈妈把它留在一边，不让我知道，因为她认为我会讨厌它。
I found the ad.
我找到了广告。
I hate it.
我恨它。
It starts with a line of pink emoji flowers-- an emoji I would never use, by the way.
它以一排粉红色的表情符号花开始——顺便说一句，这是我永远不会使用的表情符号。
Then it reads, "25-year-old Palestinian.
然后上面写着：“25 岁的巴勒斯坦人。
Born in Jordan, living in the US since 2012.
出生于约旦，自 2012 年起居住在美国。
Studied here.
在这里学习。
Beautiful, fair skin, blue eyes, veiled, beautiful.
美丽，白皙的皮肤，蓝眼睛，蒙着面纱，美丽极了。
[ARABIC].
[阿拉伯语]。
Blessed be the most gracious.
最仁慈的人有福了。
There is no power except in Allah.
除了安拉之外，没有任何力量。
She got married without sexual relations." That's referring to the engagement I broke off.
她没有发生性关系就结婚了。”那指的是我解除的婚约。
"Her request is a highly educated young man.
“她的要求是一位受过高等教育的年轻人。
Contact me for the mother's number.
联系我要妈妈的电话号码。
Serious inquiries only."
仅限认真询问。”
Everything about it makes me cringe-- the fact it exists, the details it includes.
它的一切都让我感到畏缩——它存在的事实，它所包含的细节。
My eyes aren't even blue.
我的眼睛甚至不是蓝色的。
I don't like what they're selling-- my white skin?
我不喜欢他们卖的东西——我的白皮肤？
my lack of sexual relations?
我缺乏性关系？
It doesn't include anything about me that I'm proud of or anything that actually mattered.
它不包括任何关于我的令我自豪的事情或任何真正重要的事情。
The ad lays out so plainly the enormous gap between who I am and who I would need to be to match with someone in my community.
这则广告如此清楚地展示了我是谁以及我需要成为谁才能与社区中的某个人相匹配之间的巨大差距。
The description of this Linah is so far from me, it kind of hurts to read.
对这个莉娜的描述离我太远了，读起来有点痛苦。
Looking at the ad, I realized I'm probably not going to find the partner I want, someone who's in between two worlds in the ways I am, in the ways I want to keep being.
看着广告，我意识到我可能找不到我想要的伴侣，一个像我这样、以我想要继续存在的方式处于两个世界之间的人。
It feels so final.
感觉如此最终。
I am 25, and there is no one for me.
我25岁了，没有人适合我。
But for what it's worth, if I were to rewrite the ad, here's what it would say.
但无论如何，如果我要重写这则广告，它会是这样的。
Linah, 25, wants to become a foreign correspondent.
25 岁的莉娜 (Linah) 想成为一名驻外记者。
Loves finding and making stories.
喜欢寻找和编故事。
She's religious in her own way.
她以自己的方式笃信宗教。
She fasts, but doesn't pray.
她禁食，但不祈祷。
She reads the Quran daily, but has smoked weed before.
她每天读《古兰经》，但以前吸过大麻。
She has PCOS, goes to therapy, has been depressed, has had anxiety, has a mustache and a beard, will not relocate for a man's career, will not erase herself for your approval.
她患有多囊卵巢综合症，正在接受治疗，患有抑郁症，患有焦虑症，留着小胡子和胡须，不会为了男人的职业而搬家，不会为了你的认可而抹去自己。
Worries this means she will end up alone.
担心这意味着她最终会孤身一人。
Linah Mohammad.
丽娜·穆罕默德.
She's a producer of the daily Washington Post podcast Post Reports.
她是《华盛顿邮报》每日播客《邮报报道》的制作人。
You can find her-- yes, right now-- on Bumble.
你可以在 Bumble 上找到她——是的，现在就可以。
This song that you're hearing right now, by 25-year-old Robbie Groat, was written for our program today, performed by the Philadelphia band The Districts with Katherine Lample.
您现在听到的这首歌曲是由 25 岁的 Robbie Groat 为我们今天的节目创作的，由费城乐队 The Districts 与 Katherine Lample 一起表演。
Our program was produced today by Sean Cole and Diane Wu.
今天我们的节目由肖恩·科尔和黛安·吴制作。
The people who put together today's show includes Bim Adewunmi, Elna Baker, Susan Burton, Ben Calhoun, Dana Chivvis, Aviva de Kornfeld, Noor Gill, Damien Graef, Chana Joffe-Walt, Miki Meek, Lina Misitzis, Stowe Nelson, Katherine Rae Mondo, Ben Phelan, Nadia Reiman, Robyn Semien, Lilly Sullivan, Christopher Swetala, and Matt Tierney.
今天节目的制作人包括 Bim Adewunmi、Elna Baker、Susan Burton、Ben Calhoun、Dana Chivvis、Aviva de Kornfeld、Noor Gill、Damien Graef、Chana Joffe-Walt、Miki Meek、Lina Misitzis、Stowe Nelson、Katherine Rae Mondo、Ben Phelan、Nadia Reiman、Robyn Semien、Lilly Sullivan、Christopher斯维塔拉和马特·蒂尔尼。
Our managing editor is Sarah Abdurrahman.
我们的总编辑是萨拉·阿卜杜拉赫曼 (Sarah Abdurrahman)。
Senior editor is David Kestenbaum.
高级编辑是 David Kestenbaum。
Our executive editor is Emanuele Berry.
我们的执行编辑是 Emanuele Berry。
Special thanks to Lisa Pollak, Eli Hager, Chen Ying, Jing Wang, Zeyi Yang, Oliver Whang, Penina Beede, Julian Brizzi, Jeremy Willis, Gina Grotelueschen, Joe Richman, Tony Householder, Jasmine and Becca Canziani, Alex Might, Rasha Zamamiri, Alex Lee, Katrina Montanez, and DaLyah Jones.
特别感谢 Lisa Pollak、Eli Hager、Chen Ying、Jing Wang、Zeyi Yang、Oliver Whang、Penina Beede、Julian Brizzi、Jeremy Willis、Gina Grotelueschen、Joe Richman、Tony Householder、Jasmine 和 Becca Canziani、Alex Might、Rasha Zamamiri、Alex Lee、Katrina Montanez 和 DaLyah Jones。
Quick reminder about the web page that we have set up with favorite episodes from our 25 years on the air.
快速提醒一下我们已经建立的网页，其中包含我们播出 25 年来最喜欢的剧集。
There are little blurbs from me explaining what is so special about each of the shows.
我很少解释每场演出的特别之处。
The website address, so easy to remember, you could probably say it along with me right now, right?
网址，好记啊，你现在就跟我一起说吧？
thisamericanlife.org/25years.
thisamericanlife.org/25years。
Those are the numbers 2 and 5 in there.
就是里面的数字 2 和 5。
This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.
《美国生活》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。
Thanks, as always, to our program's co-founder, Mr. Torey Malatia.
一如既往地感谢我们项目的联合创始人 Torey Malatia 先生。
You know, when he was 25, he was at Woodstock.
你知道，当他 25 岁时，他在伍德斯托克。
But all the smoke in the air from all that weed-- Torey was not used to that at all.
但空气中那些杂草散发出的烟雾——托雷根本不习惯。
He kept falling asleep.
他一直睡着。
And while the bands played, he'd wake up now and then to say--
当乐队演奏时，他会时不时地醒来说——
I'm Ira Glass, back next week with more true to-life-adventure stories.
我是艾拉·格拉斯，下周回来，带来更多真实的冒险故事。
Hit it, maestro.
打吧，大师。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。