685: We Come From Small Places - This American Life
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Prologue: Prologue Neil Drumming From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
序言：序言 来自 WBEZ 芝加哥的尼尔击鼓，这就是美国生活。
I'm Neil Drumming, sitting in for Ira Glass.
我是尼尔·德鲁明（Neil Drumming），代替艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）。
Every so often, I'll be talking to another black person, usually someone with an accent.
每隔一段时间，我就会和另一个黑人交谈，通常是有口音的人。
And they'll stop mid-conversation and ask me where my family's from or if I'm from the islands.
他们会在谈话中途停下来问我我的家人来自哪里或者我是否来自岛屿。
And I'll say something like, "I'm not sure.
我会这样说：“我不确定。
I think I'm West Indian on my dad's side." I've said this 100 times without any actual proof.
我想我是我父亲那边的西印度人。”这句话我已经说了100遍了，却没有任何实际证据。
I don't know where I got it from, and there's no evidence that I can find.
我不知道我从哪里得到它，也没有证据表明我能找到它。
I asked my dad recently, and he wasn't sure.
我最近问过我爸爸，他也不确定。
He said, maybe.
他说，也许吧。
Going back generations, someone stopped at some island between Africa and South Carolina.
追溯到几代人之前，有人在非洲和南卡罗来纳州之间的某个岛屿停留。
My cousin Yvonne, though, her dad was definitely born in Panama.
不过，我的表弟伊冯娜（Yvonne），她的父亲肯定出生在巴拿马。
A few years back, she invited me to come stand on the road with her and watch the big party Caribbean people throw here in New York every year, the West Indian Day parade-- technically, the West Indian American Day parade.
几年前，她邀请我和她一起站在路上，观看加勒比人每年在纽约举办的大型派对，西印度群岛日游行——严格来说，是西印度群岛美国日游行。
I still remember how excited she got when a group of Panamanians came marching down Eastern Parkway.
我仍然记得当一群巴拿马人沿着东部公园大道游行时，她感到多么兴奋。
My cousin is tall, over six feet, and loud.
我的表弟很高，超过六英尺，声音很大。
And she really made a show of jumping and shouting and waving her flag.
她确实表演了跳跃、喊叫和挥舞旗帜的表演。
I envied her in that moment.
那一刻我很羡慕她。
This is uncomfortable for me to say, but I've sometimes felt a sense of vagueness just being black in America.
这么说让我感到不舒服，但有时作为美国黑人我会感到一种模糊感。
That's the thing about the West Indian Day parade.
这就是西印度日游行的情况。
There's all these black people who seem to know exactly, specifically, where they're from.
所有这些黑人似乎都清楚地知道自己来自哪里。
And on this one day, they tell everyone.
在这一天，他们告诉所有人。
Like, this guy, for example.
比如，这个家伙。
It's not just where he's from, but it's how he says it.
这不仅在于他来自哪里，还在于他说话的方式。
No, I'm not living in this neighborhood.
不，我不住在这个街区。
I'm living in the Bronx.
我住在布朗克斯。
Yes, mon...
是的，蒙...
Neil Drumming He and his friend came down from the Bronx and had been partying nearby.
尼尔·鼓明 他和他的朋友从布朗克斯下来，一直在附近参加派对。
I ran into them on Eastern Parkway early that morning.
那天早上我在东部公园大道上遇到了他们。
The parade hadn't even started yet, but they were already repping their country.
阅兵还没开始，他们就已经代表自己的国家了。
Jamaicans control-- control the Parkway.
牙买加人控制着公园大道。
And go on like saying, Jamaican our own things.
继续说，牙买加是我们自己的东西。
But we have the best artists, we have the best food, we have the best culture.
但我们有最好的艺术家，我们有最好的食物，我们有最好的文化。
We have to say no more.
我们不必再说了。
Neil Drumming These guys, they don't even talk like this all the time.
Neil Drumming 这些家伙，他们甚至不总是这样说话。
So later on, around 10 o'clock, the parade will actually start.
那么稍后，10点左右，游行就会真正开始。
That's the big, big thing.
这是一件非常非常大的事情。
You'll see a lot more people flooding the streets.
你会看到更多的人涌上街头。
A few years ago, I moved just a few blocks from the parade route on Eastern Parkway, the broad tree-lined corridor that passes through the neighborhood of Crown Heights.
几年前，我搬到了距离东部公园大道游行路线仅几个街区的地方，这条宽阔的绿树成荫的走廊穿过皇冠高地附近。
The parade is actually part of a week-long celebration in Brooklyn called the Labor Day Carnival, which is itself just the New York version of Carnival, which is celebrated all over the Caribbean and the world.
这次游行实际上是布鲁克林为期一周的庆祝活动“劳动节嘉年华”的一部分，劳动节嘉年华本身就是纽约版的嘉年华，加勒比地区和世界各地都在庆祝。
Most days, Crown Heights feels a lot like other neighborhoods I've lived in-- a corner bodega here, a liquor store there, gentrification creeping in.
大多数时候，皇冠高地给人的感觉很像我住过的其他社区——这里是街角的杂货店，那里是酒类商店，中产阶级化正在悄然发生。
But one weekend every year, I wake up to reggae, and soca, and feathers, and floats, and people waving flags from all over.
但每年的一个周末，我醒来都会听到雷鬼、索卡、羽毛、花车以及来自世界各地挥舞旗帜的人们。
There's barely anywhere to stand.
几乎没有地方可以站立。
There's guys on stilts, and there are police everywhere.
到处都是踩高跷的人，到处都有警察。
It feels like the neighborhood's been completely transformed.
感觉这个街区已经完全改变了。
But of course, that's not what's actually happening.
但当然，实际情况并非如此。
It's more like the neighborhood is turning inside out, letting you see what's at its core.
这更像是这个社区正在彻底翻转，让你看到它的核心是什么。
So many of the people who make their homes in Crown Heights also carry pieces of another homeland with them-- the Bahamas, Grenada, Jamaica, Barbados, St. Lucia, Trinidad.
许多在皇冠高地安家的人也带着另一个故乡的碎片——巴哈马、格林纳达、牙买加、巴巴多斯、圣卢西亚、特立尼达。
Every year, anywhere between 1 and 2 million people show up.
每年，任何地方都会有 1 到 200 万人出现。
It's pretty thrilling just to stand on the sidelines and watch it all pass by you, you know, like a parade.
站在场边看着这一切从你身边经过，就像游行一样，真是令人兴奋。
But I wanted to live inside it more, to understand as best I can how my cousin felt that day, to know what it means to have a flag to wave.
但我想更多地生活在里面，尽可能地理解我表弟那天的感受，知道挥舞旗帜意味着什么。
So that's what we're doing this hour.
这就是我们这一个小时要做的事情。
A bunch of us went out that weekend, dove in headfirst.
那个周末我们一群人出去了，一头扎进去。
Some of us even got pretty wet.
我们中的一些人甚至全身湿透。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
The typical image New Yorkers have of the West Indian Day parade is of thousands of people dancing down Eastern Parkway in elaborate costumes that are as colorful as they are skimpy-- feathered headdresses, winged backpacks, tiaras, and jeweled bikinis.
纽约人对西印度日游行的典型印象是成千上万的人穿着精致的服装沿着东部大道跳舞——羽毛头饰、带翅膀的背包、头饰和镶满珠宝的比基尼。
I learned that this is called playing mas.
我了解到这叫做玩mas。
The mas is short for masquerade.
mas 是假面舞会的缩写。
My co-producer Jessica and I went out really early on Labor Day and met up with some masqueraders who were dressed in costumes that they had chosen from a selection of different movie themes, like The Little Mermaid, Coming to America, and Showgirls.
我和联合制片人杰西卡在劳动节那天很早就出门了，遇到了一些化装舞会者，他们穿着从不同电影主题中挑选的服装，比如《小美人鱼》、《来到美国》和《歌舞女郎》。
Just to say, the outfits were only marginally related to the films.
只是说，这些服装与电影的关系不大。
It was more about color palette than anything.
这更多的是关于调色板而不是任何事情。
One woman wore a plume of black and yellow feathers, evoking Quentin Tarantino's most famous heroine.
一名女子戴着一缕黑色和黄色的羽毛，让人想起昆汀·塔伦蒂诺最著名的女主角。
So explain your costume.
所以解释一下你的服装。
Which costume is this?
这是哪一套服装？
So this is Kill Bill.
这就是《杀死比尔》。
I regret these big feathers.
我对这些大羽毛感到遗憾。
I don't know where I'm going with this.
我不知道我要去哪里。
But this is Kill Bill and--
但这是《杀死比尔》，而且——
Why do you regret them?
你为什么对他们感到遗憾？
Woman Because they're-- do you-- girl, I'm going to need you put on a costume and try to walk down the Parkway with big feathers on it.
女人因为他们是——你是——女孩，我需要你穿上一套服装，试着带着大羽毛沿着公园大道行走。
It was a bad mistake.
这是一个严重的错误。
Feathers coming out of this, some stones came off.
羽毛从中脱落，一些石头脱落。
What's the experience of putting on an outfit like this and coming out--
穿上这样的衣服出来是什么体验——
It's hell.
这是地狱。
It took me two hours, and a lot of people's breaking down already.
我花了两个小时，很多人已经崩溃了。
We didn't even hit the Parkway.
我们甚至没有到达公园大道。
Just know if you're going to do it, just carry a lot of-- not a lot, but carry some Krazy Glue with you.
只要知道你是否打算这样做，就携带很多——不是很多，但随身携带一些疯狂胶水。
And you're going to be putting yourself together once you get out here.
一旦你离开这里，你就会振作起来。
To be honest with you, I'm chubby.
老实说，我很胖。
So Kill Bill had a monokini, and I liked it, so I went with that.
所以《杀死比尔》有一件比基尼，我很喜欢它，所以我就选择了它。
And me and a two-piece, we ain't friends right now.
而我和两件套，我们现在不是朋友。
And we ain't hit the gym.
而且我们没有去健身房。
So Kill Bill it was.
所以杀死比尔就是这样。
For many people, playing mas starts even earlier than the parade, at the parade before the parade.
对于许多人来说，演奏马戏甚至比游行还要早，在游行之前的游行中开始。
It's called J'ouvert, and it's a celebration with deep, deep roots in the Caribbean.
它被称为“J'ouvert”，这是一种深深植根于加勒比海地区的庆祝活动。
J'ouvert's mythology is populated with outlandish characters, like the menacing Midnight Robber with his wide-brimmed hat, the insanely voluptuous Dame Lorraine, and the many devils.
茹韦尔的神话中充满了古怪的人物，比如戴着宽边帽的凶恶的午夜强盗、性感得疯狂的洛林夫人，以及许多魔鬼。
Writer Imani Brown grew up with J'ouvert, but she didn't actually start going until she got to Brooklyn.
作家伊马尼·布朗 (Imani Brown) 和朱维特 (J'ouvert) 一起长大，但她直到到达布鲁克林才真正开始旅行。
Her story starts over 2,000 miles away.
她的故事始于 2,000 多英里之外。
In Trinidad, Carnival is so big that you study it in school.
在特立尼达，嘉年华是如此盛大，以至于你可以在学校里学习它。
The year I turned 10, we were given an assignment to pick one of the traditional Carnival mas characters we just learned about, create a costume, and put on a performance in front of the rest of the school.
我十岁那年，我们接到一项任务，要挑选一个我们刚刚了解的传统狂欢节角色，制作一套服装，并在学校其他同学面前进行表演。
Picking my character was a struggle.
选择我的角色是一场斗争。
But in the end, I settled on the jab molassie, sometimes called the Blue Devil in Trinidad.
但最终，我选择了刺戳糖蜜，在特立尼达有时被称为蓝魔鬼。
I picked it mostly because I knew the costume would be one of the easiest to make, and time was running out.
我选择它主要是因为我知道这套服装是最容易制作的服装之一，而且时间已经不多了。
I cut holes into an old pair of shorts and a thin T-shirt.
我在一条旧短裤和一件薄 T 恤上剪了洞。
I fashioned horns from paper towel rolls and looped strips of paper into a chain that I could wrap around my body.
我用纸巾卷制作了角，并将纸条绕成一条链子，可以缠绕在我的身上。
A pitchfork I fabricated from tree branches from my backyard completed the look.
我用后院的树枝制作了一把干草叉，完成了这个造型。
On the day of the performance, I changed into my costume in the classroom, smeared myself all over with blue paint, and then headed towards the auditorium.
演出那天，我在教室换上戏服，全身涂满蓝色颜料，然后向礼堂走去。
I was the kind of child who avoided attention, and everything in me was fighting the idea of being onstage.
我是那种逃避关注的孩子，我内心的一切都在与上台的想法作斗争。
When I stepped out alone in front of the whole school, my heart was racing.
当我独自一人站在全校面前时，我的心狂跳起来。
My teacher told us that the jab molassie was a demon that terrorizes, a creature barely kept on its leash.
我的老师告诉我们，刺戳糖蜜是一种令人恐惧的恶魔，一种几乎不受束缚的生物。
So on the stage that day, I might have crouched, or jumped, or hissed, or bared my teeth at the crowd-- I'm not sure.
所以那天在舞台上，我可能会蹲下，或跳跃，或发出嘶嘶声，或向人群露出牙齿——我不确定。
I just remember my anxiety wasn't painful anymore.
我只记得我的焦虑不再痛苦了。
It was exhilarating.
真是令人兴奋。
I felt wicked, and nasty, and playful, and tricky.
我感到邪恶、肮脏、顽皮、狡猾。
So completely out of character and still so utterly myself.
完全不符合我的性格，但仍然完全是我自己。
Deeply inside my body and yet somehow floating above it.
在我的身体深处，却又以某种方式漂浮在它上面。
When it's good, that's what it feels like to play mas.
当天气好的时候，这就是玩mas的感觉。
For a long time, mas didn't really feel like mine.
很长一段时间，我对马斯的感觉并不像我的。
I grew up in Trinidad, but my father and mother are from Jamaica and Guyana respectively.
我在特立尼达长大，但我的父亲和母亲分别来自牙买加和圭亚那。
Carnival in those places simply does not compare to the space the festival takes up in Trinidad, where Carnival is king and its influence swirls year round.
这些地方的狂欢节根本无法与特立尼达的狂欢节相比，那里的狂欢节占据主导地位，其影响力全年不断。
Everyone, my mother would say, laughing and shaking her head, everyone from the biggest partier to the most religious church mouse is out on the road come Monday.
我母亲一边笑着一边摇头说，每个人，从最大的派对爱好者到最虔诚的教堂老鼠，周一都会上路。
My family didn't go to church regularly, but there was no way my parents were going to let me participate in Carnival proper as a teenager.
我的家人不定期去教堂，但我的父母不可能让我在青少年时期参加嘉年华。
That was for grown people.
那是给成年人的。
When I left Trinidad for college in the States, the loneliness took me by surprise.
当我离开特立尼达去美国上大学时，孤独感让我大吃一惊。
I was 18, and homesickness was a physical and nearly constant ache.
我当时 18 岁，想家是一种身体上的、几乎持续不断的疼痛。
It was then that I played J'ouvert for the first time at Brooklyn's Labor Day parade.
就在那时，我在布鲁克林的劳动节游行中第一次演奏了 J'ouvert。
There, I finally felt at home again.
在那里，我终于再次感受到了家的感觉。
And in the year since, the parade has become a spiritual practice.
从那以后的一年里，游行已经成为一种精神实践。
J'ouvert always begins in the dark.
J'ouvert 总是从黑暗中开始。
This year, climbing up and out of the subway at Grand Army Plaza, the sky isn't quite pitch black, but it's close.
今年，在大军广场爬出地铁时，天空还没有完全漆黑，但也很接近了。
Against the glare of police floodlights, I can just make out a stream of people trickling down the road in clumps.
在警察探照灯的强光照射下，我只能看到一群人沿着马路缓缓前行。
My friends and I join the stream, moving towards the NYPD metal barriers that narrow into a checkpoint.
我和我的朋友加入了人流，走向纽约警察局的金属栅栏，栅栏缩小为检查站。
We are patted down and our bags opened.
我们被搜身，行李也被打开。
How're you doing, ma'am?
女士，你好吗？
Can you just open that up and just show me all what you got in there?
你能打开它并让我看看你里面有什么吗？
J'ouvert is derived from the French Creole word for daybreak.
J'ouvert 源自法语克里奥尔语，意思是“黎明”。
And traditionally, Brooklyn starts at around 4:00 AM, ending not too long after the sun rises.
按照传统，布鲁克林在凌晨 4:00 左右开始，在太阳升起后不久结束。
But this year, the rising sun is what marks the beginning of the parade.
但今年，初升的太阳标志着游行的开始。
At 6:00 AM, the parade is starting much later than usual.
早上 6:00，游行开始的时间比平常晚得多。
The reason given is that it will help curb the violence that many have come to associate with the event.
给出的理由是，这将有助于遏制许多人认为与该事件相关的暴力行为。
In 2015, a young lawyer in Governor Andrew Cuomo's administration, Carey Gabay, was hit and killed by a stray bullet along the route.
2015年，州长安德鲁·科莫(Andrew Cuomo)政府的一名年轻律师凯里·加贝(Carey Gabay)在沿途被流弹击中身亡。
The next year, it was reported that four people were shot at the parade, two of whom died.
第二年，据报道有四人在游行中被枪杀，其中两人死亡。
Here's what's rarely mentioned in those news reports.
以下是这些新闻报道中很少提及的内容。
The violence that black people experience in these long neglected neighborhoods is year round.
黑人在这些长期被忽视的社区里常年遭受暴力。
It doesn't end when the cameras leave the parade.
当摄像机离开游行队伍时，事情并没有结束。
And in some cases, the incidents that the media have connected to the parade happen away from the parade's actual route.
在某些情况下，媒体报道的与游行有关的事件偏离了游行的实际路线。
The news coverage J'ouvert typically receives is frustrating, but not surprising.
茹韦特收到的新闻报道通常令人沮丧，但并不令人意外。
No matter what part of the globe you're from, you know that this is part of what it means to be black.
无论您来自世界的哪个地方，您都知道这就是黑人的意义的一部分。
The things you do to secure joy for yourself in a world that would rather see you dead become the way the world then rationalizes your suffering.
在这个宁愿看到你死去的世界里，你为自己获得快乐而做的事情，变成了世界为你的痛苦合理化的方式。
For the media, for everyone outside of our community, the story of the parade is the story of the violence.
对于媒体，对于我们社区之外的每个人来说，游行的故事就是暴力的故事。
This is why it feels impossible to smile back when the officer checking our bags grins as if we're sharing an inside joke and comments, "Just need to make sure you don't have a gun," before letting us through.
这就是为什么当检查我们行李的官员笑着说我们在分享一个内部笑话并评论道“只需确保你没有带枪”然后让我们通过时，我们感觉不可能微笑回应。
Once we're past the checkpoint, the crowd thickens.
过了检查站，人群就变得密集起来。
It's clear that for some people, the morning is just beginning, and that for others, a long night of partying is simply stretching itself a little bit longer.
显然，对于某些人来说，早晨才刚刚开始，而对于另一些人来说，漫长的聚会之夜只是将其延长了一点。
Everyone is drifting, tripping down the street in no real hurry.
每个人都在随波逐流，在街上绊倒，并不着急。
No one is wearing anything they wouldn't mind sacrificing to the J'ouvert gods-- old tanks and short shorts, ratty T-shirts, and strappy dresses that ride up the thigh.
没有人会穿任何他们不介意祭祀朱维诸神的衣服——旧背心和短裤、破旧的T恤和长至大腿的带子连衣裙。
Flags are everywhere, tied around waists, worn as capes.
旗帜随处可见，挂在腰间，披在斗篷上。
The red, green, and gold of Grenada's flag in particular can be seen near and far.
尤其是格林纳达国旗的红色、绿色和金色，无论远近都清晰可见。
The closer we get to the front of the route, the more clearly we can hear the sound of whistles and conchs up the road.
越接近路线的前方，我们就越能清楚地听到路上的口哨声和海螺声。
The tinny sound of somebody beating out a rhythm on a small metal pan is joined briefly by the heavy beat of a cowbell.
有人在小金属盘上敲击节奏的微小声音，短暂地加入了牛铃的重击声。
Both are swallowed up by the sound of the steel pan band warming up.
两人都被钢盘乐队预热的声音吞没了。
And the devils are out.
魔鬼也出来了。
The Grenadian jab jabs are covered from head to toe in slick, black oil.
格林纳达刺拳从头到脚都涂满了光滑的黑油。
The whites of their eyes and teeth seem to jump out of their skin.
他们的眼白和牙齿似乎从皮肤中跳出来。
Locks and wigs and braids are wrapped up tightly in plastic bags.
锁、假发和辫子都紧紧地包裹在塑料袋中。
Sacrificing old clothes is one thing, but getting oil and powder out of a new sew-in is quite another.
牺牲旧衣服是一回事，但从新缝制的衣服中去除油和粉末则是另一回事。
The devils wear hardhats and helmets crowned with black horns.
魔鬼们戴着安全帽和头盔，头盔上戴着黑色的角。
I narrowly avoid getting hit by one of the many shopping carts many of the devils are pushing down the road, most of them full of plastic bags and buckets-- and in some cases, other passed-out devils.
我险些被其中一辆撞到，许多恶魔在路上推着购物车，其中大多数都装满了塑料袋和水桶——在某些情况下，还有其他昏倒的恶魔。
The smell of grease and smoke rose heavier.
油脂和烟味更重了。
Two young devils spot my friends and me and loudly proclaim that we're too clean.
两个小恶魔发现了我和我的朋友，大声宣称我们太干净了。
One of the devils dips his hands into a bucket of oil, and the other beckons us closer.
其中一个魔鬼将手浸入一桶油中，另一个则示意我们靠近。
He smiles wide, and it's both a dare and a promise, an invitation and a threat.
他笑得灿烂，这既是一种勇气，也是一种承诺，一种邀请，也是一种威胁。
We shake our heads, but we're all laughing as he walks up to us and starts rubbing us down with the oil anyway.
我们摇摇头，但当他走到我们面前并开始用油擦我们时，我们都笑了。
You don't come to J'ouvert if you're not prepared to get dirty.
如果你不准备弄脏，你就不会来J'ouvert。
The U-Haul vans pulling along the rhythm section and steel pan bands, who are now in full swing, start inching down the road.
U-Haul 货车沿着节奏区行驶，钢盘乐队现在正热火朝天地沿着道路缓缓前行。
A woman climbs on top of the bumper of a van, winding her way slowly in a smooth, rippling motion that extends from her shoulders down to her legs.
一名妇女爬上一辆货车的保险杠顶，以一种平稳、涟漪般的动作缓慢地蜿蜒前行，从她的肩膀一直延伸到她的腿。
A man hoists himself up behind her, and she picks up the pace.
一个男人在她身后站了起来，她加快了脚步。
We flag down a young woman selling Nutcrackers, sweet drinks mixed heavily with rum and vodka, despite reports of a crackdown on the sale of these drinks.
我们拦住了一名出售胡桃夹子这种掺有朗姆酒和伏特加的甜饮料的年轻女子，尽管有报道称这些饮料的销售受到了打击。
She asks if she can take a picture of us that she then posts on her Instagram to promote her business.
她询问是否可以为我们拍张照片，然后将其发布到 Instagram 上以宣传她的业务。
We all giggle like we've known each other for years as we pose.
当我们摆出姿势时，我们都咯咯笑，就像我们已经认识多年一样。
Trying to mark the moment the parade slides from darkness into daylight is like trying to track the ripening of a mango.
试图记录游行队伍从黑暗滑入白天的那一刻，就像试图追踪芒果的成熟过程一样。
It happens slowly and then all at once.
它发生得很慢，然后突然发生。
Suddenly, I'm squinting into the sun, and everything that felt clear in the night looks and feels strange to me now.
突然，我眯着眼睛看着太阳，夜里感觉清晰的一切现在对我来说看起来和感觉都很奇怪。
This is a part of it, too.
这也是其中的一部分。
Within this space, what is real and what is a hallucination?
这个空间里，什么是真实，什么是幻觉？
Moko jumbies, sure-footed performers on six-foot stilts, drift by like clouds without looking down.
莫科笨蛋，踩着六英尺高跷的稳健表演者，像云一样飘过，没有低头。
Three devils covered in white paint are on the roof of a nearby building, winding and waving a huge Trinidad flag over the crowd, as if claiming territory.
三个涂满白色油漆的恶魔在附近一座建筑物的屋顶上，在人群上方蜿蜒挥舞一面巨大的特立尼达国旗，仿佛在宣示领土主权。
How did they get up there?
他们是怎么上去的？
I have no idea.
我不知道。
But somehow, in the moment, there's nothing that doesn't make sense.
但不知何故，此刻，没有什么是不合理的。
J'ouvert began as a way to celebrate surviving the most brutal aspects of slavery.
J'ouvert 最初是为了庆祝从最残酷的奴隶制中幸存下来的一种方式。
In J'ouvert, you can see out of the eyes of the demons that once drove you with the whip.
在茹韦尔，你可以从那些曾经用鞭子驱赶你的恶魔的眼睛里看到东西。
You can embody the worst thing that ever hurt you and come out the other side invincible.
你可以化身为曾经伤害过你的最糟糕的事物，并在对方面前立于不败之地。
When our people were enslaved, they were driven into burning cane fields to harvest the land.
当我们的人民被奴役时，他们被赶到燃烧的甘蔗地里收割土地。
Those that survived came out covered in soot and ash.
那些幸存下来的人浑身沾满烟灰。
The horror defies imagination.
恐怖程度超乎想象。
But at every turn, we have been taught that we are weak, that we are cowards, that we are less than human.
但每一次，我们都被教导说我们是软弱的，我们是懦夫，我们不是人类。
So we play J'ouvert to remember that no one has the power to make monsters of us but ourselves.
所以我们玩《J'ouvert》是为了记住，除了我们自己，没有人有能力把我们变成怪物。
We play J'ouvert, and in that time, we become more fearsome than anything that could ever terrorize us.
我们扮演J'ouvert，在那段时间里，我们变得比任何可能吓到我们的东西都更可怕。
In a world that asks us to be quieter, to do less, to accept the worst of everything and to pretend to like it, J'ouvert becomes the altar where we can finally fall to our knees and worship ourselves.
在一个要求我们更安静、少做事、接受一切最糟糕的事情并假装喜欢它的世界里，J'ouvert 成为我们最终可以跪下并崇拜自己的祭坛。
I am two Nutcrackers in when the brass of the rhythm section really gets going.
当节奏部分的铜管乐真正开始演奏时，我是两个胡桃夹子。
Something deep and sweet fills me.
某种深沉而甜蜜的东西充满了我。
This year has been harder than most.
今年比大多数年份都艰难。
I haven't had the money for a plane ticket, and it's been over a year since I was in my backyard, pressing my feet into the grass, watching the sunset, feeling the wetness of the air hug my body.
我还没钱买机票，已经一年多没有在自家后院把脚踩在草地上，看着日落，感受潮湿的空气拥抱着我的身体了。
There is a person I am when I am home, and I miss her desperately.
我在家的时候有一个人，我非常想念她。
Now, a current runs through my chest, my belly, my legs.
现在，一股电流流过我的胸部、腹部和双腿。
I am not home, but I am home.
我不在家，但我在家。
I'm home.
我到家了。
I swing my hips and roll my waist and slow dance, and for a moment, feel the way I did when I was 10, jumping back and forth between fear and exhilaration, getting low to the ground, feeling something like awe and pride start to crack my chest open.
我摆动臀部、转动腰部，缓慢地跳舞，有那么一刻，我感觉自己就像十岁时一样，在恐惧和兴奋之间来回跳动，趴在地上，感觉敬畏和骄傲开始撕裂我的胸膛。
Imani Brown is a Jamaican writer and poet whose work focuses on race, gender, and Caribbean folklore.
伊马尼·布朗是一位牙买加作家和诗人，其作品主要关注种族、性别和加勒比民间传说。
She lives in Brooklyn.
她住在布鲁克林。
Pretty much all summer, if you're walking around certain parts of Brooklyn, you can hear the sound of steel drums late into the night.
几乎整个夏天，如果你在布鲁克林的某些地方散步，你都能听到深夜的钢鼓声。
But you never really see them.
但你永远不会真正看到它们。
I always wonder, where are the steel drums coming from?
我总是想知道，这些钢桶是从哪里来的？
Because when the parade comes along, it's all flatbed trucks loaded with DJ equipment and booming speakers.
因为当游行到来时，全都是平板卡车，上面装满了 DJ 设备和轰鸣的扬声器。
What was all that steel drumming I heard?
我听到的那些钢鼓声是什么？
As it turns out, part of Labor Day Carnival is a whole steel drum competition.
原来，劳动节嘉年华的一部分就是一场全钢鼓比赛。
It's called Panorama.
它的名字叫全景。
Those mysterious tropical sounds in the night, those are steel jam orchestras practicing, sometimes 100 people all playing together.
夜里那些神秘的热带声音，那些是钢管乐队在排练，有时是100个人一起演奏。
You know, when I say to people, "I practice every night," like, they'll say, well, can you do this?
你知道，当我对人们说“我每天晚上都练习”时，他们会说，好吧，你能做到吗？
And I'm like, no, I have practice.
我想，不，我有练习。
You practice every night.
你每天晚上都练习。
I'm like, yeah, I say I practice every night every time.
我想，是的，我说我每晚都练习。
Even members of our family.
甚至是我们的家庭成员。
Angie Even members of our family are like, you're going to practice?
安吉连我们家里的人都说，你要练习吗？
Yes, we're going to practice.
是的，我们要去练习。
It's what we do.
这就是我们所做的。
That's Angie and her daughter Jona.
那是安吉和她的女儿乔娜。
This is the thing they do together every year, all summer long.
这是他们每年整个夏天都会一起做的事情。
And they were really hoping their band would win this year.
他们真的希望他们的乐队今年能获胜。
The competition was basically going to be the last thing they did together as mom and teenage daughter.
这场比赛基本上是他们作为妈妈和十几岁的女儿一起做的最后一件事。
As soon as it was over, literally hours after it was over, Jona would get on a flight and leave home for her first year in college.
比赛一结束，实际上是结束后几个小时，乔娜就会乘飞机离开家，开始大学第一年的生活。
I don't know anything about steel drums, or pans, as they're called.
我对钢桶或平底锅一无所知。
But we found a reporter, Marlon Bishop, who is also a musician and who loves this instrument.
但我们找到了一位记者，马龙·毕肖普（Marlon Bishop），他也是一位音乐家，非常喜欢这种乐器。
He followed Angie and Jona as they prepared, and one of our producers, Nadia Reiman, went with them to the competition.
他跟随安吉和乔娜准备，我们的制作人之一纳迪亚·雷曼 (Nadia Reiman) 与他们一起参加比赛。
The band Angie and Jona play in is called Radoes.
Angie 和 Jona 所在的乐队名为 Radoes。
The name comes from this famous band in Trinidad called Desperadoes.
这个名字来自特立尼达的一支著名乐队 Desperadoes。
The US branch of it was called Despers, but then there was a rebellion in the ranks and the band split.
它的美国分支被称为 Despers，但随后队伍中发生了叛乱，乐队分裂了。
It was like a divorce.
这就像离婚一样。
The rebels were like, you want to be Despers?
叛军说，你想成为亡命之徒吗？
Fine, we'll be Radoes.
好吧，我们就当雷达吧。
That was years ago, though, and it's all good now.
不过那是几年前的事了，现在一切都很好。
Well, kind of.
嗯，有点。
They're rivals-- friendly rivals.
他们是竞争对手——友好的竞争对手。
We don't want them to win.
我们不希望他们获胜。
Jona Not necessarily we don't want them to win, but we want to win on our own.
Jona：我们不一定不希望他们获胜，但我们希望自己获胜。
No, no, no. We don't want-- I don't want them to win.
不，不，不。我们不希望——我不希望他们获胜。
Not really--
并不是真的——
Right, no, it's not that we don't want them to win.
是的，不，我们并不是不希望他们获胜。
It's we want to win.
这是我们想要赢的。
Yeah, no, no, no. I'm going to say I don't want--
是的，不，不，不。我会说我不想——
I'm like, I want to win.
我想，我想赢。
Like, I don't want just anyone to win.
就像，我不希望任何人获胜。
I want Radoes to win.
我希望拉多斯获胜。
Their band Radoes has a reputation for being a vibes band.
他们的乐队 Radoes 因氛围乐队而享有盛誉。
Maybe not as tight as some other groups, but compensating with spirit.
也许不像其他一些团体那么紧张，但用精神来弥补。
On the stage, they play loud and bold.
在舞台上，他们的表演大声而大胆。
And for a while, Radoes did win, three years in a row.
有一段时间，拉多斯确实连续三年获胜。
But then last year, Despers--
但去年，德斯珀斯——
Despers won last year.
Despers去年获胜。
Jona They won last year.
乔纳他们去年赢了。
It was very troubling.
这很令人烦恼。
Jona It was the most heartbreaking thing ever.
乔纳 这是有史以来最令人心碎的事情。
Can you talk about that?
你能谈谈吗？
Jona I was so sad.
乔纳我很伤心。
[LAUGHTER] Marlon Bishop I first met Angie and Jona at the big lot where the band practices.
[笑声] Marlon Bishop 我第一次见到 Angie 和 Jona 是在乐队练习的大场地。
It's in an industrial part of Brooklyn next to a bus depot-- you know, less neighbors to complain about the noise.
它位于布鲁克林的一个工业区，靠近一个公交车站——你知道，很少有邻居抱怨噪音。
Jona is trying to nail down a section in the music that's been giving her trouble.
乔娜正试图确定音乐中一直给她带来麻烦的部分。
Ba dum ba dum ba bum ba dum.
巴杜姆巴杜姆巴巴姆巴杜姆。
No, no, no.
不，不，不。
No, you're changing it.
不，你要改变它。
Angie Ba da dum ba dum.
安吉 Ba da Dum ba dum。
You're changing the phrasing.
你正在改变措辞。
Play it again.
再玩一次。
Ba da dum ba dum.
巴达杜姆巴杜姆。
What's this pan called?
这个锅叫什么名字？
Jona This is the--
乔娜这是——
This is the quadraphonics.
这就是四声道。
Jona I'm sorry, was he asking you?
乔纳，对不起，他是在问你吗？
He asked both of us.
他问我们俩。
Jona This is a quadra pan.
乔纳这是一个四平底锅。
It's very hard, yeah.
这很难，是的。
But it's fun.
但这很有趣。
It's really exciting to play.
玩起来真的很刺激。
This yard is like their second home.
这个院子就像他们的第二个家。
Angie, the mom, left Grenada when she was three years old-- grew up in Queens.
母亲安吉三岁时离开格林纳达，在皇后区长大。
When I told my mother I was going to play pan, she looked at me and she shook her head.
当我告诉妈妈我要玩盘时，她看着我，摇了摇头。
And she said, you are the bane of my existence.
她说，你是我存在的祸根。
Just like that.
就这样。
I was like, it's not that deep.
我当时想，没那么深。
I'm going to play some music.
我要播放一些音乐。
But it's male dominated.
但以男性为主。
Basically.
基本上。
It's just music.
这只是音乐。
Angie Yeah, I know.
安吉 是的，我知道。
Women didn't really play pan back in the day.
过去，女性并没有真正玩过平底锅。
They do now, though.
不过，他们现在这样做了。
Angie played pregnant with Jona.
安吉怀着乔娜。
And after Jona was born, as a baby, she'd ride on Angie's back as she practiced.
乔娜出生后，当她还是婴儿时，她会骑在安吉的背上练习。
Jona started playing in the band when she was eight years old-- played every year since.
乔娜八岁时开始在乐队中演奏，从那以后每年都演奏。
She loves it-- so much so that in this last summer before she leaves for college, she's choosing to spend every night right here with her mom, getting ready for the competition.
她非常喜欢这里，以至于在她去上大学之前的最后一个夏天，她选择每天晚上都在这里和妈妈一起度过，为比赛做准备。
The way the Panorama competition works, each band plays an eight to 10 minute long, incredibly complicated arrangement of a popular soca song.
Panorama 比赛的运作方式是，每个乐队都会演奏一首 8 到 10 分钟长、极其复杂的流行 soca 歌曲的编曲。
The arrangements are filled with crazy runs and breakdowns, which, in a kind of Calypso arms race, get more and more virtuosic every year.
这些安排充满了疯狂的奔跑和崩溃，就像卡里普索军备竞赛一样，每一年都变得越来越精湛。
Everyone will tell you the key to winning this thing, it's having a good arranger, the person who comes up with all the parts.
每个人都会告诉你赢得这件事的关键是有一个好的编曲者，一个想出所有部分的人。
Most bands use local arrangers from Brooklyn, but Radoes hires a ringer from Trinidad, a guy named BJ.
大多数乐队都使用来自布鲁克林的当地编曲者，但 Radoes 从特立尼达聘请了一位名叫 BJ 的编曲者。
Normally they'll bring up BJ for the whole summer to teach the song, but this time, there's a problem.
通常他们会用整个夏天的时间来教BJ这首歌，但这一次，出现了问题。
He had trouble getting a visa, so he's been teaching over the phone.
他在获得签证方面遇到了困难，所以他一直通过电话授课。
Every night, someone gets their cell phone with a cable, and they connect it to this giant speaker that everyone gathers around.
每天晚上，都会有人用电缆拿到手机，然后将其连接到每个人都聚集在周围的巨型扬声器上。
BJ teaches the music by calling out the notes one by one through the phone, which this other guy, called the drill master, then repeats to the rest of the orchestra.
BJ 通过电话一一念出音符来教授音乐，另一个被称为“教官”的人会向管弦乐队的其他成员重复这一点。
It starts on B and F then?
那么是从B和F开始的吗？
Man 1 C and F.
男子 1 C 和 F.
C!
C！
Cat, cat.
猫，猫。
Marlon Bishop BJ has to teach every note of a 10 minute song this way.
Marlon Bishop BJ 必须以这种方式教授 10 分钟歌曲的每个音符。
And there's not just one part.
而且不只只有一个部分。
It's an 100-person orchestra with different sections that play different notes and rhythms.
这是一个由 100 人组成的管弦乐队，由不同的部分演奏不同的音符和节奏。
No sheet music involved.
不涉及乐谱。
This is music learned entirely by ear.
这是完全通过耳朵学习的音乐。
Another thing here.
这里还有一件事。
Man 1 F and G sharp.
男子 1 F 和 G 锐利。
The yard feels like an extended family barbecue that happens every single night.
院子感觉就像是大家庭每晚都会举行的烧烤活动。
There's a makeshift bar in the back that serves beer and food.
后面有一个临时酒吧，供应啤酒和食物。
That's where all the good gossip happens.
这就是所有美好八卦发生的地方。
Overall, it's about half players and half people who are just there to hang out-- lots of kids running around, significant others of band members, plus a contingent of old guys smoking weed in the back.
总的来说，大约有一半的演奏者和一半的人只是在那里闲逛——很多孩子跑来跑去，其他重要的乐队成员，还有一群在后面抽大麻的老家伙。
People said it feels kind of like being back home in the Caribbean.
人们说这感觉有点像回到加勒比海的家。
During breaks, Jona hangs out with her best friend, Z, and some of the other girls her age, on a set of wooden bleachers.
休息时，乔娜和她最好的朋友 Z 以及其他一些同龄的女孩在木制看台上闲逛。
I notice at one point they're talking about neighborhoods in Trinidad.
我注意到他们有一次在谈论特立尼达的社区。
And they don't say, my family lives in such and such a place.
他们也没有说，我的家人住在某某地方。
They say, I live there.
他们说，我住在那里。
You live in Arima?
你住在有马吗？
Girl 2 No, I live in 'Bago.
女孩 2 不，我住在巴戈。
I live in-- my dad lives in 'Bago.
我住在——我爸爸住在巴戈。
I'm over there.
我在那边。
Yes.
是的。
Marlon Bishop But you're talking about Trinidad.
马龙·毕肖普：但是你说的是特立尼达。
Yes.
是的。
Girl 2 You would swear we grew up there, though.
女孩 2 不过，你会发誓我们是在那里长大的。
You don't really think that we grew up in some of these--
你不会真的认为我们是在这样的环境中长大的——
Honestly, when we turn on our fake ass accent-- because we wasn't born there, we just turn it on.
老实说，当我们打开我们的假屁股口音时——因为我们不是在那里出生的，我们只是打开它。
My mom be like, you swear you're Trinadi.
我妈妈会说，你发誓你是特瑞纳迪。
The high school Jona just graduated from, there weren't a lot of West Indian kids there.
乔纳刚刚毕业的高中，那里没有很多西印度群岛的孩子。
I don't talk to my friends about pan and that at all because I don't think there's a good enough way for me to explain it without people thinking I'm crazy.
我根本不和我的朋友谈论潘之类的事情，因为我认为没有足够好的方法来解释它，而不会让人们认为我疯了。
Like, I'm so serious.
比如说，我是这么认真的。
I mean, I can't explain to them that I'm standing up for hours a night, just playing music and coming home at 3 o'clock and having to wake up the next day.
我的意思是，我无法向他们解释我每晚要站几个小时，只是播放音乐，三点钟回家，第二天就必须醒来。
I can't explain all the riff raff that happens.
我无法解释发生的所有即兴表演。
I can't.
我不能。
There are fights.
有打架。
Jona There are fights.
乔纳 有打架。
Right, as an example.
对，举个例子。
It's a family, and it has arguments.
既然是一家人，就有争执。
To me, it's like-- I keep on saying it's like the epicenter of forgiveness.
对我来说，这就像——我一直说这就像宽恕的中心。
Because you can do anything--
因为你可以做任何事——
You can literally do anything, and then you can come back.
你确实可以做任何事情，然后你就可以回来了。
And then cool off a year and a half or so, and then come back, and people will be like, oh, hi.
然后冷静一年半左右，然后回来，人们会说，哦，嗨。
They're alluding to something specific here.
他们在这里暗指一些具体的事情。
One year, one of the Radoes players got into a beef and brought a gun into another pan yard.
有一年，一名 Radoes 球员陷入困境，将一把枪带到了另一个平底锅场。
And someone ended up getting shot.
结果有人被枪杀了。
It was a bad time, Angie said.
安吉说，那是一段糟糕的时光。
The guy went to jail.
那家伙进了监狱。
But when he got out, he came back to the band, and people said, OK.
但当他退出后，他又回到了乐队，人们说，好吧。
It's a place of redemption.
这是一个救赎的地方。
You belong to us, right, and we belong in the same environment.
你是属于我们的，对吧，我们属于同一个环境。
And we know how to make peace with one another.
我们知道如何与彼此和睦相处。
That's not something you see all the time.
这不是你经常看到的东西。
That's not something you see all the time.
这不是你经常看到的东西。
I come back a few weeks later and BJ, the ringer, the arranger from Trinidad, his visa has finally been sorted out.
几周后我回来，来自特立尼达的铃声、编曲人BJ，他的签证终于搞定了。
He's here in person.
他亲自来了。
You can feel the change of energy in the yard.
你可以感受到院子里能量的变化。
There's way more players, and the music is starting to sound really good.
玩家越来越多，音乐也开始听起来非常好听。
As I'm recording the band, a guy calls me over and tells me, in no uncertain terms, that I am not to share the recordings with any rival bands.
当我为乐队录音时，一个人打电话给我，毫不含糊地告诉我，我不会与任何竞争对手乐队分享录音。
Ladies and gentlemen, this is a competition.
女士们先生们，这是一场比赛。
And therefore, we must have judges.
因此，我们必须有法官。
Our judges this evening are--
今晚我们的评委是——
This finally is the night of Panorama, Labor Day weekend.
这终于是劳动节周末全景之夜了。
My colleague, Nadia Reiman, was there for that.
我的同事纳迪亚·雷曼 (Nadia Reiman) 也在场。
She's going to take it from here.
她要从这里拿走它。
The competition takes place in the parking lot of the Brooklyn Museum.
比赛在布鲁克林博物馆的停车场举行。
The streets are blocked off.
街道被封锁。
There's tons of U-Hauls filled with drums and racks, tons of people setting up pans, rolling them about.
有成吨的 U 型拖车，里面装满了鼓和架子，成吨的人架起平底锅，滚动它们。
It's like being backstage.
就像在后台一样。
When I get there an hour before showtime, Angie is dashing from place to place, setting up drums, making sure people have their shirts.
当我在演出前一小时到达那里时，安吉正在从一个地方冲到另一个地方，架起鼓，确保人们穿上衬衫。
The Radoes are all wearing T-shirts that say, "Hookin' Meh" on them.
Rado 成员都穿着印有“Hookin' Meh”字样的 T 恤。
That's the song they're playing.
这就是他们正在演奏的歌曲。
Oh, also, she's getting people rides who are supposed to be here, but aren't.
哦，还有，她载了一些本来应该在这儿但实际上却没有来的人。
Are you ready now?
你现在准备好了吗？
OK, get up here as soon as you can, because they want you to start hooking up the drums.
好的，尽快赶到这里，因为他们希望你开始连接鼓。
Tell me the address of the place.
告诉我那个地方的地址。
I'll send you a car.
我会派车给你。
She sees Jona walking toward us in the distance.
她看到乔纳在远处向我们走来。
She can tell just from her walk.
仅从她的走路姿势就能看出。
Radoes is going to play second, which is stressing Angie out.
拉多斯将担任第二名，这给安吉带来了压力。
You want to play last.
你想最后玩。
That way, the judges remember you.
这样，评委就会记住你。
Most of the bands that are going first are pretty set up, starting to run through their songs.
大多数先行的乐队都已经准备就绪，开始演唱他们的歌曲。
But Radoes is still not ready, still not practicing.
但拉多斯还没有准备好，还没有练习。
Despers is.
德斯佩斯是。
Jona seems not concerned, like at all.
乔纳似乎并不担心，一点也不担心。
Really, she's not.
真的，她不是。
Stop talking about it.
别再说了。
Despers USA, the one who won last year, that's them right now.
去年获胜的Despers USA，现在就是他们。
That's like your rival?
这就像你的对手吗？
Jona Ah, they just won last year.
乔纳啊，他们去年刚刚赢了。
It's nothing special.
没什么特别的。
I like how every time I ask, you're like, nah, I don't care.
我喜欢每次我问你的时候，你都会说，不，我不在乎。
No, it's not that I don't care, but they just won once.
不，不是我不在乎，而是他们只赢了一次。
That was the first time they've won in a really long time, 'cause I think the last time they won was, like, in the '90s or something like that.
这是他们很长一段时间以来第一次获胜，因为我认为他们上次获胜是在 90 年代或类似的时候。
So it was a big deal for them.
所以这对他们来说是一件大事。
But other than that, they're not a rival.
但除此之外，他们不是对手。
You're, like, very politely [BLEEP] talking them.
你就像，非常有礼貌地[哔]跟他们说话。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
是啊，是啊，是啊。
It's nothing special.
没什么特别的。
Finally, everyone shows up, and they run through their song a few times in practice.
最后，每个人都出现了，他们练习了几次自己的歌曲。
And then, for real.
然后，真的。
Ladies and gentlemen, on stage, we have band number two.
女士们先生们，舞台上有我们的第二乐队。
They are the Radoes.
他们是雷达。
They roll up on stage.
他们在舞台上滚动。
There's about 100 of them.
大约有 100 个。
They've built out a float that looks like a tin spaceship, kind of.
他们建造了一个看起来像锡制宇宙飞船的浮标。
It's even hard to tell it's a spaceship, but Angie says it is.
甚至很难说这是一艘宇宙飞船，但安吉说它是。
I have to say, to me, standing in the front few rows of the audience with my untrained ears, they sound a little rushed and messy.
不得不说，对于站在观众席前几排的我来说，用未经训练的耳朵，听起来有些仓促和凌乱。
It's honestly hard to tell.
老实说，这很难说。
As they play more, though, they get a little more sure-footed.
然而，随着比赛次数的增多，他们的脚步会变得更加稳健。
It takes nearly an hour to get each band on and off the stage.
每个乐队上台下台都需要近一个小时。
When Despers comes on, hours later, they look like professionals, definitely more polished.
几个小时后，当 Despers 登场时，他们看起来就像专业人士，而且绝对更加优雅。
Their bandleader has this confidence and a little bravado, as if they've already won.
他们的乐队领队有这样的自信和一点虚张声势，就好像他们已经赢了一样。
Angie's not feeling good about this.
安吉对此感觉不太好。
And as the night goes on, she goes through a kind of pre-emptive expedited grieving process.
随着夜幕降临，她经历了一种先发制人的快速悲伤过程。
Here she is an hour later, depression.
一小时后，她情绪低落。
My grandmother used to say kingdoms rise and fall all the time.
我祖母常说，王国总是盛衰交替。
And so, I wonder if the kingdom is falling.
所以，我想知道王国是否正在崩溃。
It's hard to know.
很难知道。
And at around 11:00, when we're getting closer to the end, acceptance.
11:00 左右，当我们接近结束时，接受。
We're not going to win this time around, I can see that.
这一次我们不会赢，我看得出来。
No, I don't see that happening.
不，我不认为这种情况会发生。
I don't see that happening.
我不认为这种情况会发生。
The Radoes' reign could be over.
拉多家族的统治可能结束了。
Things change, people move on.
事情在改变，人们在前进。
Jona is about to move on.
乔纳正要继续前进。
But people from different bands keep coming over to Angie to say hello.
但不同乐队的人不断过来向安吉打招呼。
She honestly seems to know everybody here.
老实说，她似乎认识这里的每个人。
It combats the anonymity of America.
它与美国的匿名性作斗争。
Like, America is just one big place that you could be lost in.
就像，美国只是一个你可能会迷失方向的大地方。
And we come from small places, right?
我们来自小地方，对吗？
And this is, as you know West Indians say, a kind of catch ass place.
正如你所知，西印度群岛人说，这是一个令人抓狂的地方。
People don't have the kind of luxury of time as they do in the Caribbean, but they figure out a way to be together.
人们不像加勒比海地区那样拥有奢侈的时间，但他们找到了一种聚在一起的方式。
And this is just another way to figure out how to be together, how to be together the way we are.
这只是弄清楚如何在一起、如何以我们现在的方式在一起的另一种方式。
How to be together the way we are.
如何以我们现在的方式在一起。
Angie says when she was little, she couldn't stand Labor Day Carnival.
安吉说，当她小的时候，她无法忍受劳动节狂欢节。
She'd get tired and want to go home.
她会累了，想回家。
And her dad would always try and linger, stretch it out a little longer.
而她的父亲总是试图逗留一段时间，延长一段时间。
Now she gets it.
现在她明白了。
There's a homesickness, even in Angie's case, if it's for a place where she hasn't really lived.
即使对于安吉来说，如果是为了一个她没有真正居住过的地方，也会有一种思乡之情。
Is the president here?
总统在吗？
Please come on stage for the results.
请上台查看结果。
Duh duh duh.
呵呵呵呵。
Nadia Reiman It's now past midnight, or 1:00 AM.
Nadia Reiman 现在已经过了午夜，即凌晨 1:00。
Honestly, I don't remember.
老实说，我不记得了。
But it's the moment they've been waiting for.
但这是他们一直在等待的时刻。
They're about to announce the winners.
他们即将宣布获奖者。
Everyone gathers closer and closer to the stage.
大家都聚集到了离舞台越来越近的地方。
The announcer starts with the last place band.
播音员从最后一个地方乐队开始。
Placing eighth, we have Harmony.
排名第八的是 Harmony。
Placing seventh, Cross Fire.
《穿越火线》排名第七。
This is all good news.
这都是好消息。
It means Radoes hasn't lost yet.
这意味着拉多斯还没有输。
In sixth place, Philly Pan Stars.
排名第六的是费城泛星队。
The crowd does not like that.
群众不喜欢这样。
Fifth place, Chasm.
第五名，鸿沟。
At this point, each time the announcer doesn't say Radoes, Angie lets out an involuntary scream.
这时，每当播音员没有说“拉多斯”时，安吉就会不由自主地发出一声尖叫。
Fourth, Despers USA.
第四，Despers美国。
Nadia Reiman Despers, their rival, took fourth.
他们的竞争对手纳迪亚·雷曼·德斯佩斯获得第四名。
Third, Pan Evolution.
第三，泛进化论。
Angie OK, so now my hands are shaking.
安吉 好吧，现在我的手在颤抖。
Placing second with a score of 458 and the winner, 459, placing second, Adlib.
以 458 分排名第二，获胜者为 459 分，排名第二的是 Adlib。
So that's it.
就是这样。
Radoes won by a single point, 459 to 458.
拉多斯以 459 比 458 以一分获胜。
Come, Angie says.
来吧，安吉说。
She grabs my hand and drags me on stage.
她抓住我的手，把我拖到舞台上。
We are running up this ramp, tons of people pushing through.
我们正在爬上这个坡道，大量的人推着过去。
Someone loses a shoe, but keeps going.
有人丢了一只鞋，但仍继续前行。
They're screaming, dancing-- tons of hugs.
他们尖叫、跳舞——无数的拥抱。
And in the middle of the stage, Angie sees her daughter, surrounded by her friends.
在舞台中央，安吉看到她的女儿被她的朋友们包围着。
In a few hours, she'll be on the plane to college in California.
几个小时后，她将乘飞机前往加利福尼亚州的大学。
I'm so overwhelmed.
我太不知所措了。
Z I don't want you to leave.
Z 我不想让你离开。
'Cause I'm going to leave, like, now.
因为我现在就要离开。
But then we also won.
但后来我们也赢了。
The person saying, "I don't want you to leave," that's Jona's bestie from the pan yard, Z.
那个说“我不想让你离开”的人就是乔娜在锅场的好朋友，Z。
Jona looks at her and starts to cry.
乔娜看着她，开始哭泣。
She told me later that she's known Z since she was 10.
她后来告诉我，她从 10 岁起就认识 Z 了。
That every year, days after Panorama's over, they keep going to the pan yard anyway and hanging out until it got too cold to do it.
每年，在《全景》结束几天后，他们还是会继续去平底锅院子里闲逛，直到天气太冷而无法这样做。
And so this moment, standing on stage looking at her friends, that was when it really hit her.
所以这一刻，当她站在舞台上看着她的朋友们时，她才真正受到了打击。
This part of her life with her mom and these friends in this world, it's over.
她和她妈妈以及这个世界上的这些朋友一起生活的这一部分，已经结束了。
Marlon Bishop produces podcasts for Futuro Media Group, which makes Latino USA.
Marlon Bishop 为 Futuro Media Group 制作播客，该集团打造了 Latino USA。
Nadia Reiman is one of the producers of our show.
纳迪亚·雷曼 (Nadia Reiman) 是我们节目的制片人之一。
Coming up, we're going to need a mop in aisle seven.
接下来，我们需要在第七过道配备拖把。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues.
芝加哥公共广播电台一分钟后我们的节目仍在继续。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Neil Drumming, sitting in for Ira Glass.
我是尼尔·德鲁明（Neil Drumming），代替艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）。
Today's show, We Come From Small Places, stories from the West Indian American Day parade and the Labor Day Carnival in Brooklyn, New York City.
今天的节目《我们来自小地方》讲述了西印度群岛美国日游行和纽约市布鲁克林劳动节狂欢节的故事。
The neighborhood that the parade goes through includes another group of people that are unapologetically themselves.
游行队伍经过的街区还有另一群毫无歉意的人。
That's the Hasidic Jews.
这就是哈西德派犹太人。
On this day, you'll see many of them dressed up in a costume that's particular to their culture.
在这一天，您会看到他们中的许多人穿着其文化特有的服装。
But unlike the mas players, they wear their uncolorful costumes year round-- the long black coats and black hats and beards, outfits that date back to 19th century Poland.
但与马术表演者不同的是，他们全年都穿着单调的服装——黑色长外套、黑色帽子和胡须，这些服装的历史可以追溯到 19 世纪的波兰。
During the parade, they all seem to be rushing down the street, like people on their way to an important appointment, not looking at the festivities at all.
游行期间，他们似乎都在街上匆匆忙忙，就像人们在去参加一个重要约会的路上，根本不看庆祝活动。
My co-worker, Ira Glass, the regular host of this program, was at the parade with us and tried to talk to some Hasids about this huge yearly event that takes place in their neighborhood.
我的同事艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）是这个节目的常任主持人，他和我们一起参加了游行，并试图与一些哈西德派人士谈论在他们附近举行的这一年度盛事。
Walking up to Hasids on the street felt like walking up to people from another planet, people who had a general air of hostility-- or at least, suspicion-- towards outsiders like me.
在街上走向哈西德派感觉就像走向来自另一个星球的人，这些人对像我这样的外人普遍充满敌意——或者至少是怀疑。
They waved me off.
他们挥手让我离开。
The best I got was from a young man who took pity on me and gamely mustered this non-committal quote about the parade.
我得到的最好的消息来自一位年轻人，他同情我，并勇敢地收集了这段关于游行的不置可否的引言。
Every person has a right to do what they want, what they feel is right.
每个人都有权做自己想做的事、做自己认为正确的事。
But I finally found one Hasid who would actually talk to me by marching myself over to 770 Eastern Parkway, the worldwide headquarters of the Chabad movement.
但我最终找到了一位真正愿意与我交谈的哈西德，他步行前往东部公园路 770 号，查巴德运动的全球总部。
Chabad is the biggest Hasid organization.
Chabad 是最大的哈西德组织。
And 770 is such an important spiritual site for them that a replica of the building at 770 Eastern Parkway was built in Jerusalem, nearly a brick-by-brick copy, with other replicas in cities around the world, which include the number 770 on the building.
770 对他们来说是一个非常重要的精神场所，以至于在耶路撒冷建造了东大道 770 号建筑的复制品，几乎是一砖一瓦的复制品，世界各地的城市都有其他复制品，其中包括建筑物上的数字 770。
The number has mystical significance, meaning, among other things, depending on who you ask, Beis Moshiach, House of the Messiah.
这个数字具有神秘的意义，其意义取决于你问的是谁，Beis Moshiach，弥赛亚之家。
The 770 is not just a three digit number on the door and the address at 770 Eastern Parkway, Brooklyn, New York.
770 不仅仅是门上的三位数号码和地址 770 Eastern Parkway, Brooklyn, New York。
It is the house of our leader, the leader of the entire human race.
这是我们的领袖，全人类的领袖的家。
Lubavitcher Rebbe.
卢巴维奇·雷贝。
Yehuda Menasha Goldstein Right.
耶胡达·梅纳沙·戈德斯坦 右。
The man telling me this is Yehuda Menasha Goldstein, a middle-aged fellow with a very kind face, long graying beard, wire-rimmed glasses.
告诉我这件事的人是耶胡达·梅纳沙·戈德斯坦（Yehuda Menasha Goldstein），他是一位中年人，有着一张非常和善的脸，留着长长的灰白胡须，戴着金丝框眼镜。
And he's talking about the last great leader of the Chabad movement, who died in 1994, has no successor, Menachem Mendel Schneerson.
他谈论的是 Chabad 运动的最后一位伟大领导人 Menachem Mendel Schneerson，他于 1994 年去世，没有继任者。
Some, like Yehuda, believe Schneerson was the messiah.
有些人，比如耶胡达，相信施内森是救世主。
Yehuda spoke with me because he's taken it upon himself to be a schliach, which is a kind of emissary or missionary spreading the word about God's laws.
耶胡达与我交谈，因为他自认为是一名施利亚赫，这是一种传播有关上帝律法的使者或传教士。
And what that meant was that when I strode up to 770, he seemed just as glad for somebody to talk to as I was.
这意味着，当我大步走向 770 号时，他似乎和我一样很高兴有人可以交谈。
Like, he walked up to me.
就这样，他向我走来。
Like, God had sent us both out to talk to strangers on this day at the parade, and now, here we were.
就像，上帝派我们俩在这一天的游行中与陌生人交谈，而现在，我们就在这里。
He admitted he'd put up a handmade sign across the parade route about the seven laws of Noah.
他承认他在游行路线上竖起了一个手工制作的标牌，内容是诺亚七定律。
And he was kind of hoping that the sign would do a lot of the proselytizing for him today, and he wouldn't have to engage too much with the crowd.
他有点希望这个标牌今天能为他做很多劝说的事情，而他不必与人群接触太多。
Due to the weakness of the eyes, I try to put signs over there to do my work for me.
由于眼睛的弱点，我试着把标志放在那里为我做我的工作。
Because if I see what's going on over here, it really triggers a lot of emotional prohibited thoughts that you have to really not let play out, get played enough to guard your eyes in this.
因为如果我看到这里发生的事情，它确实会引发很多情绪上被禁止的想法，你必须真的不要让这些想法发挥出来，充分发挥作用以保护你的眼睛。
What do you mean?
你是什么意思？
Yehuda Menasha Goldstein Well, the distracting, sexually explicit, beautiful women.
耶胡达·梅纳莎·戈德斯坦（Yehuda Menasha Goldstein）好吧，那些令人分心的、露骨的、美丽的女人。
They are very arousing and provocative.
它们非常令人兴奋和挑衅。
Remember, we're standing on the street with literally hundreds of women in bikinis going by, lots of bare skin.
请记住，我们站在街上，有数百名穿着比基尼的女性经过，很多人裸露着皮肤。
So the women on top of that float going by, you're not supposed to even look at them?
那么，那些在花车上经过的女人，你根本不应该看她们一眼吗？
I plead the fifth, man.
我恳求第五点，伙计。
Ira Glass It didn't occur to me.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：我没有想到这一点。
I didn't realize, right, to have a parade like this right in the middle of the Hasid neighborhood, right here in front of 770-- it's a challenge.
我没有意识到，在哈西德街区的中间，就在 770 前面，有这样的游行——这是一个挑战。
Right, and I had prayed about it last night.
是的，我昨晚已经为此祈祷了。
And I was 50/50 with God because that was full on winding it.
我对上帝的看法是 50/50，因为上发条时我的心情是饱满的。
And I was full on asking for help to overcome and not sin because I know my weaknesses.
我满心寻求帮助来克服而不是犯罪，因为我知道自己的弱点。
I'm very human.
我很人性化。
I'm very masculine.
我很有男子气概。
And when you see that very feminine, it's a little more than a challenge to.
当你看到那种非常女性化的感觉时，这不仅仅是一种挑战。
But when God is blessing you, God is with you, you can still manage to not sin.
但当神祝福你，神与你同在时，你仍然可以设法不犯罪。
What did you pray for?
你祈求什么？
Yehuda Menasha Goldstein Prayed that God would prevent me from sinning.
耶胡达·梅纳沙·戈德斯坦 (Yehuda Menasha Goldstein) 祈求上帝阻止我犯罪。
Well, yeah.
嗯，是的。
I have to admit that I asked that.
我必须承认我问过这个问题。
But obviously, whatever.
但显然，无论如何。
It's a fight.
这是一场战斗。
I mean, you seem to be quite uninterested to look yourself.
我的意思是，你似乎对审视自己毫无兴趣。
You seem to be more interested in getting a story and talking and writing material for--
你似乎对获取故事、谈话和写作材料更感兴趣——
Also, I'm a secular person who is allowed to look at women walking by in a parade.
另外，我是一个世俗的人，可以观看游行中走过的妇女。
God wants us to be holy, Yehuda said.
耶胡达说，上帝希望我们圣洁。
He wants us to elevate our souls.
他希望我们提升灵魂。
And really, he said, the right thing to do today would be to guard his eyes.
事实上，他说，今天正确的做法是保护他的眼睛。
He admitted for all his praying last night, today--
他承认昨晚他所有的祈祷，今天——
A couple of times, I was looking a little too long at some nice shapes.
有几次，我对一些漂亮的形状看得有点太长了。
Mentally, I have to work on that because it's not right.
从精神上来说，我必须努力解决这个问题，因为这是不对的。
And I even pointed as they walked by.
当他们走过时我什至指着他们。
And then some people caught me pointing and said, oh, see that Jewish guy?
然后有人发现我指着他们说，哦，看到那个犹太人了吗？
He's even into the looking, and laughing at me.
他甚至很专注地看着我，还嘲笑我。
Look at that guy.
看看那个家伙。
Look at that rabbi.
看看那个拉比。
He's copping a look.
他正在看一眼。
Yeah, well, I admit it.
是的，好吧，我承认。
Well, Yom Kippur is coming in 40 days.
好吧，赎罪日还有 40 天就要到来。
Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, when once a year, through repentance, prayer, and charity, Jews get their chance to make things right again with God, for the moments we strayed.
赎罪日，赎罪日，每年一次，通过悔改、祈祷和慈善，犹太人有机会在我们迷失的时刻与上帝重新和好。
Two blocks west of 770, a block south of the parade route on Union Street, I spot two Hasidic boys in front of their apartment building with a cooler and handmade signs that read "Cookies for Sale" and "Ice Pops for Sale."
距离 770 号以西两个街区，联合街游行路线以南一个街区，我发现两个哈西德派男孩站在他们的公寓楼前，手里拿着一个冷藏箱和手工制作的标牌，上面写着“出售饼干”和“出售冰棒”。
And so how much are they?
那么它们的价格是多少呢？
Boy 1 They're $0.15 each.
男孩 1 每张售价 0.15 美元。
How long have you been here?
你来这里多久了？
Boy 1 A half hour.
男孩 1 半小时。
OK, that's pretty good, so $0.30.
好的，非常好，所以 0.30 美元。
What's your name?
你叫什么名字？
I don't want to say.
我不想说。
Boy 2 Can I say my name?
男孩 2 我可以说出我的名字吗？
Ah, little brothers, clueless.
唉，小兄弟们，无知啊。
This one's seven, the other guy's 12.
这个7岁，另一个12岁。
The little one proceeds to tell me his name, which, later, his older brother asked me not to put on the radio.
小家伙继续告诉我他的名字，后来他的哥哥要求我不要把这个名字放在收音机上。
They're used to the parade.
他们已经习惯了游行。
It's every year.
每年都是这样。
They woke me up at 3:00 AM in the morning.
他们在凌晨 3:00 叫醒我。
There was a bunch of people with symbols and then just marching down that block.
有一群人拿着符号，然后沿着那个街区游行。
Do you like that this kind of thing happens in the neighborhood?
你喜欢这样的事情发生在附近吗？
No. Ira Glass Your brother is shaking your head no. You don't like it.
不，艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass），你的兄弟正在摇头，不。你不喜欢它。
What's the dangerous part?
危险的部分是什么？
Boy 2 People are walking around crazy.
男孩 2 人们都在疯狂地走来走去。
Yes.
是的。
Ira Glass They described to me some people yelling, threatening each other a couple of doors down from them about an hour before this.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：他们向我描述了大约一小时前，距他们几扇门外的一些人大喊大叫，互相威胁。
I asked for another example.
我要求另一个例子。
People are walking around with knives and guns.
人们拿着刀和枪四处走动。
Wait, have you seen knives and guns?
等等，你见过刀和枪吗？
You're just here.
你就在这里。
Yes.
是的。
Wait, hold on, I don't want to say it on there.
等等，等等，我不想在那里说。
Do you want me to say what I have in my pocket?
你想让我说我口袋里有什么吗？
His older brother explains it's just because he's scared.
他的哥哥解释说这只是因为他害怕。
Scissors.
剪刀。
Ira Glass You have scissors in your pocket because you're scared?
Ira Glass：你口袋里有剪刀是因为你害怕吗？
I had scissors in my pocket just in case anything happens.
我口袋里有剪刀，以防万一发生什么事情。
He fetches them and shows me.
他把它们拿来给我看。
To be clear, these scissors are kid scissors, like safety scissors like you use in second grade.
需要明确的是，这些剪刀是儿童剪刀，就像二年级使用的安全剪刀一样。
What were you going to do with the scissors?
你要用剪刀做什么？
If someone were to come with a knife, I would tell them look over there, and grab the knife, and then stab them.
如果有人拿着刀来，我会告诉他们看那边，抓住刀，然后刺伤他们。
Your brother's laughing.
你哥哥在笑。
You don't think that plan would work.
你认为这个计划行不通。
No, it wouldn't.
不，不会的。
Boy 2 I think it would work.
男孩2 我认为这会起作用。
We start discussing how scary the parade seems to them and the people in the parade when a bunch of women amble up to us.
当一群妇女向我们走来时，我们开始讨论游行对他们和游行中的人们来说是多么可怕。
We lived here 20 years ago.
20年前我们住在这里。
Woman 2 Yeah, that's my old room right there.
女人2 是的，那是我以前的房间。
So we're just going to do a picture because we were here.
所以我们只是拍一张照片，因为我们来过这里。
This was my old room.
这是我以前的房间。
I tell the women that these boys live in the building.
我告诉妇女们这些男孩住在这栋楼里。
Well, maybe these guys live in your apartment.
好吧，也许这些人住在你的公寓里。
I don't know.
我不知道。
What apartment do you guys live in?
你们住在什么公寓？
We're on that side.
我们就在那一边。
Woman 2 No, we lived on that side.
女人2 不，我们住在那边。
But we always take an annual picture, and we just need to do that.
但我们总是每年拍一张照片，而且我们只需要这样做。
So I hope you don't mind.
所以我希望你不要介意。
So you guys used to live in the neighborhood.
所以你们以前就住在附近。
All over.
遍。
Ira Glass All over.
艾拉·格拉斯 全身上下。
And then you come back every year for the parade?
然后你每年都会回来参加游行吗？
Yeah.
是的。
And then we take a photo shoot here.
然后我们在这里拍照片。
They line up in front of the door with the building number above it.
他们在门前排队，门上写着大楼号码。
The friend frames the shot in her phone.
朋友用手机拍下了这张照片。
What's a Boomerang?
什么是回旋镖？
Ira Glass And then the important business finished, they chat.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass） 然后重要的事情结束了，他们开始聊天。
They explain to me that their names are Denille and Charlene.
他们向我解释说他们的名字是丹妮尔和夏琳。
Well, with the new neighbors, yeah.
嗯，和新邻居在一起，是的。
But there's still people across the street that still have the same house.
但街对面仍然有人拥有同样的房子。
My room used to be right there-- Mommy's room, Keisha's room, my room, the living room.
我的房间曾经就在那里——妈妈的房间，凯莎的房间，我的房间，客厅。
This is a great building.
这是一座伟大的建筑。
It's only seven apartments in this apartment building, and they're so huge--
这栋公寓楼只有七间公寓，而且还这么大——
That's nice.
那很好。
That's nice.
那很好。
Woman 2 --at $350 a month.
女人2——每月350美元。
Can you remember?
你还记得吗？
It was the '90s.
那是 90 年代。
She turns to the 12- and 7-year-old-- they're sitting there, stone silent-- and talks to the little one.
她转向 12 岁和 7 岁的孩子——他们坐在那里，一言不发——并与小孩子交谈。
Matter of fact, my little sister, matter of fact, was your age.
事实上，我的妹妹，事实上，和你同龄。
And she's like 40 something now, and I'm 50.
她现在大概40岁左右，而我已经50岁了。
And then were there Hasids in the neighborhood on the block back then?
那么当时这个街区附近有哈西德派吗？
We used to live in the building with them.
我们曾经和他们一起住在这栋楼里。
We have no problem with the Orthodox Jews, never.
我们对东正教犹太人没有任何问题，从来没有。
We played with them.
我们和他们一起玩。
There was great houses down there.
那里有很棒的房子。
We were friends with them.
我们和他们是朋友。
Never a problem.
从来都不是问题。
Never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever a problem with the Orthodox ever.
永远、永远、永远、永远、永远、永远不会成为东正教的问题。
They stroll off.
他们漫步离开。
The 12-year-old tells me that one of them slipped him a dollar when I wasn't watching.
这位 12 岁的孩子告诉我，其中一个人趁我不注意时偷偷塞给了他一美元。
Biggest sale of the day.
当天最大的销售。
Those ladies, so nice.
那些小姐姐们真好啊
New Yorkers can be so friendly.
纽约人可以如此友好。
I know that's not the stereotype of New Yorkers, but I find often the case.
我知道这不是纽约人的刻板印象，但我发现情况经常如此。
Little brother didn't even have to pull out his scissors.
小弟弟甚至不用拔出剪刀。
Ira Glass.
艾拉·格拉斯.
Act Four Neil Drumming So the parade, it involves an incredible number of feathers.
第四幕尼尔击鼓所以游行中，涉及到数量令人难以置信的羽毛。
And there's this kind of funny thing that I learned.
我学到了这种有趣的事情。
A lot of them come from this one shop on West 37th Street in the Garment District.
其中很多来自服装区西 37 街的这家商店。
So I want to leave Eastern Parkway for a minute and take you there.
所以我想离开东部公园大道一会儿带你去那里。
We visited a couple of weeks before the parade.
我们在游行前几周参观了这里。
It's like a candy store inside, except the bins that line the walls are filled with different colors of feathers, sequins, and rhinestones.
里面就像一家糖果店，只不过墙壁上的垃圾箱里装满了不同颜色的羽毛、亮片和莱茵石。
The owner is not from the West Indies.
业主不是来自西印度群岛。
He's never been to Brooklyn Carnival.
他从未去过布鲁克林狂欢节。
His name's Hai, and he's originally from China.
他的名字叫海，来自中国。
And he showed my co-producer Jessica some of this year's costumes, including an outfit with about 1,000 rhinestones sewn into it.
他向我的联合制片人杰西卡展示了今年的一些服装，其中包括一件缝有大约 1,000 颗莱茵石的服装。
I don't know.
我不知道。
Is that clear or white or what--
是透明的还是白色的还是什么——
AB.
AB。
Jessica Lussenhop AB, what does that mean?
杰西卡·卢森霍普 AB，这是什么意思？
Aurora Borealis color.
北极光的颜色。
These are all AB color stones.
这些都是AB色宝石。
It color changes based on the light.
它的颜色会根据光线而变化。
There's a lot of colors in it.
里面有很多种颜色。
When Hai first opened his shop, his main customers were figure skaters, ballroom dancers, and drag queens.
当海刚开店时，他的主要顾客是花样滑冰运动员、舞厅舞者和变装皇后。
He'd never heard of Carnival.
他从来没有听说过嘉年华。
Then about 12 years ago, a Trinidadian man walked into his shop and asked for 400 identical sequined appliques.
大约 12 年前，一名特立尼达男子走进他的商店，索要 400 件一模一样的亮片贴花。
It turns out the guy was buying them for Carnival for one of the big costume groups you see march in the parade.
事实证明，这家伙是为狂欢节买的，是为了你在游行中看到的一个大型服装团体。
They're called mas bands, or mas camps.
他们被称为 mas 乐队或 mas 营。
Again, the mas is for masquerade.
再次强调，mas 是为了化装舞会。
Now Hai is the go-to guy for Carnival feathers for so many bands, not just here, but all over the Caribbean.
现在，海是许多乐队的嘉年华羽毛的首选人，不仅是在这里，而且是整个加勒比海地区。
Everyone knows Hai, one Trinidadian told us.
一位特立尼达人告诉我们，每个人都认识海。
While Jessica was in Hai's shop, the leader of one of the biggest mas camps in Brooklyn stopped by.
当杰西卡在海的店里时，布鲁克林最大的马斯营之一的领导人过来了。
Her name is Reishelle Maynard-Richards.
她的名字叫雷谢尔·梅纳德-理查兹。
She runs a camp called Ramajay.
她经营着一个名为 Ramajay 的营地。
And half will be leg pieces, arm pieces.
一半是腿部碎片，手臂碎片。
Ramajay.
拉玛贾伊。
How are you?
你好吗？
Hai Yeah, your stuff is here.
嗨，是的，你的东西在这里。
Wow, you guys are so lucky.
哇，你们真幸运。
How are you?
你好吗？
Hai That's the Ramajay bandleader.
Hai 那是 Ramajay 乐队领队。
Yeah, sure.
是的，当然。
They accept us.
他们接受我们。
It is pretty.
很漂亮。
Neil Drumming Hai is pulling bra tops out of big boxes and showing Reishelle.
尼尔·鼓鸣·海 (Neil Drumming Hai) 正在从大盒子里拿出胸罩上衣，并向 Reishelle 展示。
What color is that?
那是什么颜色？
Like, sherbet or what would you call that?
比如，果子露或者你会怎么称呼它？
Coral.
珊瑚。
Reishelle Maynard-richards Coral.
雷谢尔·梅纳德-理查兹珊瑚。
Coral or shrimp color.
珊瑚色或虾色。
Reishelle Maynard-richards I came to get the feathers for today.
Reishelle Maynard-richards 我是来取今天的羽毛的。
Are you getting the feathers for that one today?
今天你拿到那只羽毛了吗？
Reishelle went off to pick out more ostrich plumes, which are some of the most expensive feathers in the shop.
雷谢尔去挑选更多鸵鸟羽毛，这是店里最昂贵的羽毛之一。
It turns out that all these feathers are real.
事实证明，这些羽毛都是真的。
Hai gets his ostrich plumes from farms in South Africa.
海的鸵鸟羽毛来自南非的农场。
The turkey feathers, mostly from Missouri.
火鸡羽毛，大部分来自密苏里州。
And there are also these really long, striped pheasant tail feathers.
还有这些非常长的、有条纹的野鸡尾羽。
Those are from farms in Vietnam and Cambodia.
这些来自越南和柬埔寨的农场。
Each individual feather or piece costs $25.
每根羽毛或每片售价 25 美元。
And sometimes you'll see individual masqueraders having over 200 pieces on their backpack, and just imagine how much money he spent on that one backpack.
有时你会看到个别伪装者的背包上有 200 多件物品，想象一下他在这一个背包上花了多少钱。
Wow.
哇。
Hai Yeah, but those are very Carnival and this is what they love.
哈喽，但是那些非常狂欢节，这就是他们所喜欢的。
And so they save up for that one costume, right?
所以他们攒钱买一套服装，对吗？
When the actual finished product walks down the Parkway, you're looking at almost a year's worth of work by everyone from peacock farmers in Cambodia to the designers in Trinidad and the seamstresses in southern China to Reishelle and her family in Canarsie, where her father actually hand glues feathers onto wire and bends them into headdresses and wings.
当真正的成品走在公园大道上时，你会看到每个人几乎一年的工作成果，从柬埔寨的孔雀养殖户到特立尼达的设计师和中国南方的女裁缝，再到雷谢尔和她在卡纳西的家人，在那里她的父亲亲手将羽毛粘在金属丝上，然后将它们弯曲成头饰和翅膀。
One other important thing that you should know about Hai's feathers is that people tell us that, because they're real, they're waterproof.
关于海的羽毛，您应该了解的另一件重要的事情是，人们告诉我们，因为它们是真实的，所以它们是防水的。
Which is fortunate, because this year, it started pouring down rain early Labor Day morning.
幸运的是，今年劳动节一早就开始下倾盆大雨。
And Jessica and I found maybe 100 masqueraders hiding out in a nearby Walgreens.
杰西卡和我发现大约 100 名伪装者藏在附近的沃尔格林 (Walgreens) 店里。
In the cosmetics aisle, I saw a woman posing for a picture like some odd winged supermodel underneath the fluorescent lights.
在化妆品过道里，我看到一个女人在荧光灯下摆出姿势拍照，就像长着奇怪翅膀的超模一样。
There was a long line to the bathroom, women in sequined bikinis crowding in two at a time.
通往卫生间的队伍排得很长，穿着亮片比基尼的女性一次挤成两个。
Even though everyone's feathers were soaked through and drooping, they were trying to stay in good spirits.
尽管每个人的羽毛都湿透了，垂垂着，但他们还是努力保持着良好的精神状态。
It ain't going to stop.
它不会停止。
And we're drying our feathers.
我们正在烘干我们的羽毛。
It's wet.
湿了。
They are hanging up behind me in a bunch of school supplies.
它们挂在我身后的一堆学习用品中。
Yeah, I don't know.
是的，我不知道。
I guess, I'm curious, like, does the fact that it's raining, like--
我想，我很好奇，比如，下雨这个事实，比如——
No, it don't stop us.
不，这不会阻止我们。
Woman 4 No, it don't stop us.
女人 4 不，这并不能阻止我们。
It don't stop us.
它不会阻止我们。
We could party in the rain.
我们可以在雨中聚会。
It don't stop us, and the party don't stop.
它不会阻止我们，聚会也不会停止。
It's our culture.
这是我们的文化。
We're here to pick up our culture, you know what I mean?
我们来这里是为了学习我们的文化，你明白我的意思吗？
Like, rain or shine, tornado.
就像，风雨无阻，龙卷风。
Eventually the rain stopped.
终于，雨停了。
People put on their damp costumes and rejoined the parade.
人们穿上湿漉漉的服装，重新加入游行队伍。
Mas players pay hundreds of dollars to join mas bands.
Mas 玩家支付数百美元加入 mas 乐队。
For their money, the masqueraders get a costume, food and drink, and a chance to dance behind a truck with an obscenely loud sound system.
为了钱，化妆舞会者可以得到服装、食物和饮料，还有机会在一辆音响系统声音大得令人发指的卡车后面跳舞。
The folks at Ramajay, they say the number of masqueraders has been dropping over the years.
拉马杰的人们说，这些年来伪装者的数量一直在下降。
This is Darryl Cox.
这是达里尔·考克斯。
He designs costumes for Ramajay.
他为 Ramajay 设计服装。
He was wearing a jewel-encrusted ski mask at the time.
当时他戴着镶有宝石的滑雪面具。
So there's a whole bunch of factors that play into part.
所以有很多因素在起作用。
But overall, I think it's just people may want to do different things with their income.
但总的来说，我认为这只是人们可能想用自己的收入做不同的事情。
They may not necessarily want to be half naked on the road for a couple hours, so.
他们可能不一定想在路上半裸几个小时，所以。
What Darryl means is they'd prefer to be half naked on the road for considerably more than a few hours.
达里尔的意思是，他们宁愿半裸地在路上呆上几个小时以上。
He says the mas play business is suffering because people feel like the city is getting more and more strict every year about when the parade is supposed to end.
他说，马戏表演生意正在受到影响，因为人们觉得这座城市对游行结束时间的规定每年都越来越严格。
Everyone's supposed to be off the road by 6:00, so masqueraders are less inclined to pay a band like Ramajay for the experience.
每个人都应该在 6:00 之前离开道路，因此伪装者不太愿意为这种体验付钱给 Ramajay 这样的乐队。
And one of our biggest battles is why should I spend $600 for a costume in New York when I can spend that on a flight and go to St. Lucia, or go to Jamaica, or go somewhere else and play mas there?
我们最大的争论之一是，为什么我要在纽约花 600 美元买一套服装，因为我可以把钱花在飞往圣卢西亚、牙买加或其他地方并在那里玩的航班上？
That's Reishelle, the woman we met in the feather shop on 37.
那是 Reishelle，我们 37 号在羽毛店遇到的那个女人。
She founded Ramajay about a decade ago and turned it into the family business.
她大约十年前创立了 Ramajay，并将其转变为家族企业。
Her father played mas in Trinidad, and to this day, still spends months helping her make the band's lavish costumes by hand.
她的父亲在特立尼达演奏，直到今天，仍然花几个月的时间帮助她手工制作乐队的奢华服装。
For Reishelle, these days, not enough people are willing to commit to the masquerade, to the tradition of playing mas.
对于雷谢尔来说，如今，没有足够多的人愿意参与化装舞会，遵循玩化装舞会的传统。
When you walk, what you see now, you don't see much costumes anymore.
当你走路时，你现在所看到的，你已经看不到太多的服装了。
You see a lot of T-shirts and just flags.
你会看到很多 T 恤，只有旗帜。
A lot of people don't get to witness the beauty of the costumes anymore, because they just see flags, and rags, and short pants, and they don't see the beauty of a lot of the costumes anymore.
很多人再也无法目睹服装的美丽，因为他们只看到旗帜、破布和短裤，而他们再也看不到很多服装的美丽。
Within Caribbean culture, not everyone is steeped in the same traditions Reishelle was taught.
在加勒比文化中，并不是每个人都沉浸在雷谢尔所接受的相同传统中。
They celebrate however they can.
他们尽其所能地庆祝。
Though there's one way of cutting loose that seems to be happening more and more, and it drives Reishelle and her staff crazy.
尽管有一种摆脱束缚的方法似乎越来越多地发生，但它却让雷谢尔和她的员工抓狂。
When Ramajay rolls down the Parkway, speakers blasting, some bystanders hop the metal barriers and flood the band's ranks, dancing and waving their flags.
当拉玛杰 (Ramajay) 沿着公园大道滚下时，扬声器震耳欲聋，一些旁观者跳过金属栅栏，涌入乐队的队伍中，一边跳舞一边挥舞着旗帜。
People call this storming.
人们称之为风暴。
Some mas players welcome it, like the more, the merrier.
一些 mas 玩家对此表示欢迎，认为越多越好。
But it doesn't look great.
但看起来不太好。
The traditional mas players in their feathers and jewels, jostled and crowded by stormers in shorts and T-shirts and everyday street clothes, it's just messy.
穿着羽毛和珠宝的传统马斯球员，被穿着短裤、T 恤和日常街头服装的暴徒推挤和拥挤，场面一片混乱。
And it can also be dangerous.
而且它也可能很危险。
People get harassed, even assaulted.
人们受到骚扰，甚至殴打。
Fights can break out.
战斗可能会爆发。
The DJs kept trying to separate the non-paying civilians from the costumed players.
DJ 们一直试图将不付费的平民与穿着盛装的玩家区分开来。
But make way for the masqueraders, please.
但请给伪装者让路。
We ask that all the people who are not playing mas to step to the right side, far, far right side of the truck, please, and make space for the masqueraders.
我们要求所有不参加化妆舞会的人请走到卡车的右侧，非常非常右侧，为伪装者腾出空间。
And ladies and the men, stop winding with the outsiders and encouraging these things now.
女士们先生们，现在就停止与外人打交道并鼓励这些事情吧。
Stop winding on the outsiders, OK?
别再纠缠外人了，好吗？
They made this announcement over and over, without much impact.
他们一遍又一遍地宣布这一消息，但没有产生太大影响。
And the band security got pretty fed up trying to enforce it.
乐队保安已经厌倦了试图强制执行它。
I need the costumes to come through.
我需要服装才能通过。
Anybody that have on costumes, come through.
任何穿着服装的人都过来。
Costumes, come through.
服装，过来。
Anybody without costumes, you're not coming in.
任何不穿服装的人都不能进来。
I don't give a [BLEEP] what y'all say.
我不会对你们所说的话置之不理。
Y'all mother [BLEEP] ain't coming in.
你们妈妈[哔]不进来。
Reishelle has had enough.
雷谢尔已经受够了。
She recently decided that this would be Ramajay's last year in playing mas in New York City.
她最近决定，这将是拉玛杰在纽约演出的最后一年。
And the stormers are why she's calling it quits.
而暴风雨正是她宣布退出的原因。
Ramajay will continue to play mas, but Reishelle would rather fly her staff to Miami, where she feels more people embrace Carnival as she knows it.
Ramajay 将继续举办狂欢节，但 Reishelle 宁愿让她的工作人员飞往迈阿密，她认为在那里有更多的人拥抱嘉年华，因为她知道这一点。
It's big news.
这是个大新闻。
Again, here's Darryl, Ramajay's designer.
再次请来拉玛杰的设计师达里尔 (Darryl)。
There's a lot of sadness.
有很多悲伤。
I haven't really even been dancing because it's almost like I miss this, but I don't miss it.
我什至没有真正跳舞，因为这几乎就像我想念这个，但我并没有想念它。
Everyone seems to be happy.
每个人似乎都很高兴。
And I think it's finally going to hit them when we cross that stage one last time.
我认为当我们最后一次跨过这个阶段时，他们最终会受到打击。
That's not going to happen again.
这种事不会再发生了。
It's easy to think of a parade as something unchanging, something that passes through the same place at the same time every year.
人们很容易认为游行是一成不变的事情，是每年同一时间经过同一地点的事情。
The Carnival is this living thing that goes anywhere it's welcome, picking up pieces here and there, and dropping them off along the way.
嘉年华是一个活生生的东西，它可以去任何它受欢迎的地方，到处捡起碎片，然后沿途把它们扔掉。
Just as Ramajay is reaching the end of the parade route, the sky cracks open again, drenching the procession in steady sheets of rain.
就在拉玛贾到达游行路线的尽头时，天空再次裂开，大雨倾盆而下，淋湿了游行队伍。
Plenty of people flee through the barriers for the safety of open subway entrances or storefront awnings.
许多人为了安全而逃离开放的地铁入口或店面遮阳篷。
But a lot of people stay.
但还是有很多人留下来。
And then something kind of magical happens.
然后神奇的事情发生了。
Ramajay's DJs crank up the music.
Ramajay 的 DJ 将音乐调高。
They lead the mas bands and chants of wetted up, and the people want water, almost as if they were taunting the clouds, daring the rain to fall.
他们带领着马斯乐队，唱着湿漉漉的歌，人们想要水，几乎就像他们在嘲笑云朵，勇敢地下雨。
The masqueraders, already soggy from earlier, collectively decide, what the hell, and start to jump up in unison, harder and more exuberantly than they have all day.
早先已经浑身湿透的伪装者们集体决定，到底怎么回事，然后开始齐声跳起来，比他们一整天都更努力、更旺盛。
As they cross the finish line, the band is as presentable as it can be under the circumstances.
当他们冲过终点线时，乐队在这种情况下尽其所能地表现得体面。
And it's just like Darryl predicted.
正如达里尔所预测的那样。
There's lots of people crying-- Reishelle, her family, her security, and the people who have been playing mas with Ramajay for years.
很多人都在哭泣——Reishelle、她的家人、她的保安，以及多年来一直与 Ramajay 一起玩的人们。
They pass by a panel of judges who are supposed to be scoring them on presentation.
他们经过了一个评委小组，他们应该在展示时给他们打分。
But honestly, the judging seems like it's beside the point right now.
但老实说，现在的判断似乎已经脱离了重点。
Everyone just seems happy to have spent all this time together, and they just want to keep winding and rocking.
每个人似乎都很高兴能一起度过这段时间，他们只是想继续蜿蜒和摇摆。
How many people need two more hours on the road?
有多少人需要在路上多花两个小时？
Put your hands up in the sky right now.
现在就把手举到空中。
Our show was produced today by myself and Jessica Lussenhop.
今天我们的节目是由我和杰西卡·卢森霍普制作的。
The people who worked on the show include Bim Adewunmi, Elna Baker, Emanuele Berry, Susan Burton, Ben Calhoun, Zoe Chace, Dana Chivvis, Sean Cole, Whitney Dangerfield, Hilary Elkins, Ira Glass, Damian Grave, Michelle Harris, Chana Joffe-Walt, Seth Lind, Lina Misitzis, Stowe Nelson, Catherine Raimondo, Nadia Reiman, Tracy Rowland, Brian Reed, Robyn Semien, Christopher Swetala, Matt Tierney, and Nancy Updike.
参与该剧的人员包括 Bim Adewunmi、Elna Baker、Emanuele Berry、Susan Burton、Ben Calhoun、Zoe Chace、Dana Chivvis、Sean Cole、Whitney Dangerfield、Hilary Elkins、Ira Glass、Damian Grave、Michelle Harris、Chana Joffe-Walt、Seth Lind、Lina Misitzis、Stowe Nelson、Catherine Raimondo、Nadia雷曼、特雷西·罗兰、布莱恩·里德、罗宾·塞米恩、克里斯托弗·斯维塔拉、马特·蒂尔尼和南希·厄普代克。
Our managing editor is Diane Wu.
我们的总编辑是 Diane Wu。
Our executive editor is David Kestenbaum.
我们的执行编辑是大卫·凯斯滕鲍姆。
Special thanks today to the West Indian American Day Carnival Association for providing audio of the steel pan competition.
今天特别感谢西印度群岛美国日嘉年华协会提供钢盘比赛的音频。
Also to Evon Asforis, Hannah Giorgis, Lynette Joseph Brown, Aaron Edwards, Doreen St. Félix, Gabrielle A.
另致 Evon Asforis、Hannah Giorgis、Lynette Joseph Brown、Aaron Edwards、Doreen St. Félix、Gabrielle A.
Smith, Nico Osborne, Angela Howard, Jona Inniss, Junior "Man" Samuel, Tom Montvel-Cohen, and the rest of the D'Radoes Steel Orchestra, Garth Green, Stacy Gardiner from Stronjeh International, Kenneth Antoine of Antoine International, and Staceyann Chin.
史密斯、尼科·奥斯本、安吉拉·霍华德、乔纳·英尼斯、Junior“Man”塞缪尔、汤姆·蒙特维尔-科恩以及 D'Radoes Steel Orchestra 的其他成员、加思·格林、Stronjeh International 的 Stacy Gardiner、Antoine International 的 Kenneth Antoine 和 Staceyann Chin。
Our website, thisamericanlife.org.
我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.
《美国生活》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。
Thanks as always to our show's host, Ira Glass.
一如既往地感谢我们节目的主持人艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass)。
The last time Ira and I went out for KFC, he got heartburn like I'd never seen.
上次我和艾拉出去吃肯德基时，他出现了我从未见过的胃灼热症状。
I felt really bad.
我感觉很糟糕。
Me and a two-piece, we ain't friends right now.
我和两件套，我们现在不是朋友。
I'm Neil Drumming.
我是尼尔·鼓明。
Ira Glass will be back next week with more stories of This American Life.
艾拉·格拉斯将于下周回归，带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。