67: Your Dream, My Nightmare - This American Life
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Your House, My Nightmare Ira Glass I can describe the furniture store in one word-- shiny.
你的房子，我的噩梦 Ira Glass 我可以用一个词来形容这家家具店——闪亮。
Shiny purple leather sofas, iridescent mirrored pictures of the sphinx, and King Tut, and panthers, chandeliers and ornamental elephants made of glass and mirror.
闪亮的紫色皮革沙发、彩虹色的狮身人面像和图坦卡蒙的镜面图片，以及由玻璃和镜子制成的黑豹、枝形吊灯和装饰性大象。
Look at that, the china, this thing.
看看那个，瓷器，这个东西。
These sofas I like over here, I'll show you.
这些沙发是我喜欢的，我给你看看。
Claudia Perez and I stopped into the store while we were working on a radio story in between interviews.
克劳迪娅·佩雷斯（Claudia Perez）和我在采访间隙制作广播故事时走进了商店。
We were on 26th Street in her neighborhood, Little Village, one of Chicago's big Mexican neighborhoods.
我们住在她所在的小村社区的第 26 街，这是芝加哥最大的墨西哥社区之一。
This white sofa.
这张白色的沙发。
And there's a little table shaped like a piano, and there's glass.
还有一张钢琴形状的小桌子，还有玻璃。
Is all mirror.
都是镜子。
And the glass table and glass chairs.
还有玻璃桌子和玻璃椅子。
It's beautiful.
很美丽。
Ira Glass Claudia is 19, has done a few stories for our radio show.
艾拉·格拉斯·克劳迪娅 (Ira Glass Claudia) 19 岁，为我们的广播节目创作了一些故事。
She's one of those teenagers who's on a perpetual plan for self-improvement, switching from job to job, trying to earn enough to keep paying her way through school, struggling.
她是那些制定了自我完善计划的青少年中的一员，不断变换工作，努力挣到足够的钱来支付自己的学费，挣扎着。
She and I walked past the shiny living rooms, through the shiny dining rooms, and into a dark and shiny bedroom, where she stopped dead and said, "Oh my god."
我和她走过闪亮的客厅，穿过闪亮的餐厅，走进一间又黑又亮的卧室，她停了下来，说道：“天啊。”
This is-- oh my god.
这是——天哪。
Look at this.
看看这个。
This is what I want.
这就是我想要的。
This is what I'm going to school for.
这就是我去学校的目的。
We were staring at a bed with mirrored columns that rose from the headboard and lights built in around the baseboard.
我们盯着一张床，床头板上有镜面立柱，底板周围装有灯。
There was a mirrored chandelier, a matching white-and-mirror bureau and side table with gold-colored handles, all of which matched each other and matched the bed.
一盏镜面枝形吊灯、配套的白色镜面书桌和带金色把手的边桌，所有这些都相互搭配，也与床相配。
Everything.
一切。
I like the rug, the little Chinese rug, the chests.
我喜欢地毯，中国的小地毯，还有箱子。
Oh, it's just so nice.
哦，真是太好了。
I shouldn't have come in here.
我不该进来的。
This is what I'm going to have.
这就是我将要拥有的。
I'm gonna have myself a nice house.
我会给自己一个漂亮的房子。
She tells me her family's always rented.
她告诉我她的家人总是租房子。
Her dream is to own a house, filled with furniture like this.
她的梦想是拥有一所房子，里面装满了这样的家具。
We walked from room to room, looking at gaudy lamps, and cabinets, and chairs.
我们从一个房间走到另一个房间，看着华丽的灯、柜子和椅子。
And finally, Claudia turned to me and asked, "So, which do you like best?" and looked into my eyes.
最后，克劳迪娅转向我问道：“那么，你最喜欢哪一个？”并看着我的眼睛。
Now I grew up in the Jewish suburbs outside of Baltimore.
现在我在巴尔的摩郊外的犹太郊区长大。
I am no stranger to furniture like this.
我对这样的家具并不陌生。
It filled the bright, lime-green, carpeted living rooms of a good number of the people who I grew up with and loved.
它充满了我和我一起长大、所爱的许多人的明亮、石灰绿色、铺着地毯的客厅。
I have personally had as many big moments in my life while sitting around glass-top tables with shiny, mirrored legs as anyone you have ever met.
就我个人而言，我一生中经历过的重要时刻和你见过的任何人一样，坐在玻璃桌旁，桌子的腿闪闪发亮，镜面的。
I've had important conversations leaning on iridescent silver pillows, my feet on super long, white shag carpet.
我曾靠在彩虹色的银色枕头上进行重要的谈话，我的脚踩在超长的白色粗毛地毯上。
I feel at home in this setting.
在这个环境中我感到宾至如归。
But-- and I say this meaning no disrespect-- I have not chosen this for my adult life.
但是——我这样说并没有不尊重的意思——我并没有为我的成年生活选择这个。
It is not my dream.
这不是我的梦想。
So when Claudia asked, "Which do you like best?" I paused, and I said, "I like the plainer stuff." And she looked at me, did not say anything.
所以当克劳迪娅问：“你最喜欢哪一个？”我停顿了一下，说道：“我喜欢简单的东西。”而她看着我，没有说什么。
I think that this answer just did not make sense to her.
我认为这个答案对她来说没有意义。
My taste does not make much sense to her.
我的品味对她来说没有多大意义。
She and I were in that situation, that situation that two people find themselves in now and then, that situation of thinking, "Yeah, your dream, my nightmare."
她和我就处于那种情况，那种两个人时不时地陷入的情况，那种思考的情况，“是的，你的梦想，我的噩梦。”
Well, from WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
嗯，来自 WBEZ 芝加哥，这是《This American Life》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme, bring you a wide variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，我们的节目每周都会选择一个主题，为您带来有关该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's program, Your Dream, My Nightmare.
今天的节目，你的梦想，我的噩梦。
Act One, Noise.
第一幕，噪音。
A serious-minded music critic gets sent on her nightmare vacation to Rock-n-Roll Fantasy Camp.
一位严肃的音乐评论家被送往摇滚幻想营度过了噩梦般的假期。
Act Two, Color, in which an interracial couple traveling through Tennessee cannot agree on one tourist destination, an antebellum mansion plantation.
第二幕，色彩，一对穿越田纳西州的跨种族夫妇无法就一个旅游目的地——战前豪宅种植园达成一致。
Act Three, Motion, in which radio producer Jay Allison decides that all the news stories he ever covers are essentially one story, one story whose theme is-- do we even have to tell you?
第三幕，动议，电台制作人杰伊·艾利森决定他所报道的所有新闻报道本质上都是一个故事，一个故事的主题是——我们必须告诉你吗？
Act Four, Blood.
第四幕，血。
Some of the biggest your-dream-my-nightmare scenarios occur when parents try to impose their dream upon their children.
当父母试图将自己的梦想强加给孩子时，一些最大的“你的梦想我的噩梦”场景就会发生。
Writer David Sedaris provides us with a case example on the golf course.
作家大卫·塞达里斯（David Sedaris）为我们提供了一个高尔夫球场的案例。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Noise.
第一幕，噪音。
Well, here is someone's fantasy.
好吧，这是某人的幻想。
A cocktail party about 7:00 in the evening in an old hotel in Miami Beach, where, by the swimming pool, there's Bruce Springsteen, draft beer in hand, making polite small talk.
晚上 7:00 左右，在迈阿密海滩的一家老酒店举行的鸡尾酒会，布鲁斯·斯普林斯汀 (Bruce Springsteen) 在游泳池边，手里拿着生啤酒，礼貌地闲聊。
Actually, it's not Bruce.
事实上，他不是布鲁斯。
It's his old side men, Clarence Clemons and Nils Lofgren.
这是他的老搭档克拉伦斯·克莱蒙斯和尼尔斯·洛夫格伦。
Oh, and there's Billy Joel.
哦，还有比利·乔尔。
Well, not really Billy Joel.
好吧，其实不是比利·乔尔。
It's Billy Joel's drummer, Liberty DeVitto.
这是比利·乔尔的鼓手，利伯蒂·德维托。
This is Rock-n-Roll Fantasy Camp.
这就是摇滚幻想营。
It really exists.
它确实存在。
And this April, 33 campers got their dream, to come to the Eden Roc Hotel in Florida for five days, drink nervously through cocktail parties like this one, play nervously in celebrity jam sessions.
今年4月，33名营员实现了他们的梦想，来到佛罗里达州的Eden Roc酒店住上五天，在像这样的鸡尾酒会上紧张地喝酒，在名人即兴演奏会上紧张地演奏。
All in all, for most of them, a dream come true.
总而言之，对于他们中的大多数人来说，梦想成真了。
Well, Sarah Vowell has different dreams.
嗯，莎拉·沃威尔有不同的梦想。
Sarah is one of our contributing editors and a music writer for Spin, The Village Voice, and Salon.
莎拉是我们的特约编辑之一，也是 Spin、The Village Voice 和 Salon 的音乐作家。
She dropped in on Rock-n-Roll Fantasy Camp.
她顺便参加了摇滚幻想营。
My rock and roll fantasy is this, that occasionally, every now and then, a song I like comes on the radio.
我的摇滚幻想是这样的，收音机里偶尔会出现一首我喜欢的歌曲。
It's a simple dream, I know.
我知道，这只是一个简单的梦想。
And every so often, once or twice a year, it actually comes true.
每隔一段时间，一年一次或两次，它实际上就会实现。
I get all I need from pop music song by song.
我从流行音乐中一首歌一首歌地得到我需要的一切。
And that's how I like it best, two or three minutes of speed or sorrow coming out of speakers with so much something that the world stops cold.
这就是我最喜欢的方式，扬声器里传出两三分钟的速度或悲伤，让世界停止寒冷。
I rarely daydreamed of befriending my rock idols.
我很少梦想与我的摇滚偶像成为朋友。
Maybe it's because I tend to admire cranks.
也许是因为我倾向于欣赏怪人。
Like I really want to toast in the New Year with Jerry Lee Lewis, or go shoe shopping with Courtney Love, or build sand castles with a peach like Lou Reed.
就像我真的很想在新年里和杰瑞·李·刘易斯一起举杯，或者和考特尼·洛夫一起去买鞋，或者像卢·里德一样和桃子一起建造沙堡。
My musical heroes are mostly snotty weirdos who didn't become famous because of their social graces.
我的音乐偶像大多是势利的怪人，他们并不是因为社交优雅而出名。
Just because I have them in my heart doesn't mean I want them in my life.
仅仅因为我心里有它们并不意味着我想要它们出现在我的生活中。
So the very idea of spending five whole days couped up in Miami, taking guitar workshops from moldy rock big shots and paying upwards of $3,000 to do it at something called Rock-n-Roll Fantasy Camp isn't my fantasy.
因此，花上五整天的时间在迈阿密参加摇滚大咖的吉他讲习班，并支付超过 3,000 美元去参加一个名为“摇滚幻想营”的活动，这并不是我的幻想。
Try my worst nightmare.
试试我最糟糕的噩梦。
My rock and roll fantasy is to get those lessons from Mark Farner, and Leslie West, and Felix Cavaliere.
我的摇滚梦想是从马克·法纳、莱斯利·韦斯特和菲利克斯·卡瓦利埃那里得到这些教训。
Hopefully, you have no idea who these people are.
希望您不知道这些人是谁。
And you never did if the years 1970 to '75 are underrepresented in your record collection in both the chronological and spiritual senses.
如果 1970 至 75 年在您的唱片收藏中无论从时间顺序还是精神意义上都没有得到充分体现，那么您就从未这样做过。
Mark Farner is the scary, born-again, lead guitarist of Grand Funk Railroad.
马克·法纳 (Mark Farner) 是 Grand Funk Railroad 乐队中可怕的重生主音吉他手。
You know, Grand Funk Railroad?
你知道格兰芬克铁路吗？
[MUSIC - "WE'RE AN AMERICAN BAND" BY GRAND FUNK RAILROAD]
[音乐 - GRAND Funk RAILROAD 的“我们是美国乐队”]
Guitarist Leslie West played Woodstock with his band, Mountain.
吉他手莱斯利·韦斯特 (Leslie West) 与他的乐队 Mountain 一起演奏伍德斯托克音乐。
[MUSIC - "MISSISSIPPI QUEEN" BY MOUNTAIN]
[音乐-山边的“密西西比女王”]
And Felix Cavaliere's from The Young Rascals.
还有《少年流氓》中的菲利克斯·卡瓦利埃。
I actually like this song.
我其实很喜欢这首歌。
[MUSIC - "GOOD LOVIN'" BY THE YOUNG RASCALS]
[音乐 - 年轻流氓的“GOOD LOVIN”]
Bet you didn't think you'd be hearing these songs when you turned on public radio today, did ya?
我敢打赌，您今天打开公共广播时不会想到会听到这些歌曲，是吗？
Anybody who's here is from my '70 dreams.
这里的每个人都来自我 70 年代的梦想。
My fantasy for this camp would be to have Nils Lofgren teach me a few tricks in open G.
我对这个训练营的幻想是让 Nils Lofgren 教我一些开放式 G 技巧。
I guess I would compare my voice to that of Lou Gramm of Foreigner.
我想我会把我的声音与《外国人》中卢·格拉姆的声音进行比较。
And there he is, right there.
他就在那里，就在那里。
And who are these rock and roll fans, whose dreams, whose entire conception of rock and roll is so different from my own?
这些摇滚乐迷是谁，他们的梦想，他们对摇滚乐的整个概念与我自己的如此不同？
Joe, who markets sound equipment in Detroit; Connie and Maxine, sisters from Minneapolis who left their husbands and kids back home; and Rob, the math teacher from Long Island who heard about the camp on Howard Stern's radio show.
乔，在底特律销售音响设备；康妮和玛克辛是来自明尼阿波利斯的姐妹，她们把丈夫和孩子留在了家里；罗布是一位来自长岛的数学老师，他在霍华德·斯特恩的广播节目中听说了这个营地。
I love famous-- I like famous people.
我喜欢名人——我喜欢名人。
I love to see and meet famous people.
我喜欢见到和认识名人。
And this is hanging out with famous people.
这是和名人一起出去玩。
Just take a beat like that when you're in G.
当你在G调时就这样拍吧。
You can keep the low string on the third fret.
您可以将低弦放在第三品上。
Just pump it with your thumb.
只需用拇指按压即可。
That's Nils Lofgren's guitar workshop, probably the most low-key, sensible seminar of the camp.
那是尼尔斯·洛夫格伦的吉他研讨会，可能是营地中最低调、最明智的研讨会。
He's a kind, respectful man.
他是一个善良、有礼貌的人。
And even though he knows what he's doing, he doesn't get all curlicued about it.
尽管他知道自己在做什么，但他并没有对此感到困惑。
He pumps out a chug-a-lug rhythm, advising his students to try to "stay in the back pocket of the beat" and to "think like a drummer, real rhythmic."
他发出一种突突的节奏，建议他的学生尝试“留在节拍的后面”并“像鼓手一样思考，真正有节奏”。
Watching them lurch along doesn't look like any fantasy I've ever had.
看着他们摇摇晃晃地走着，这不像是我曾经有过的幻想。
It would almost be boring except that watching nervous people in any given situation is always at least slightly engaging.
除非在任何特定情况下观察紧张的人总是至少有点吸引人，否则这几乎是无聊的。
And also, as the only girl in the room, I keep cracking up, watching an arrangement of men sitting in a circle, stroking their instruments.
而且，作为房间里唯一的女孩，我一直在笑，看着一群男人围成一圈，抚摸着他们的乐器。
A phrase comes to mind, one I'm not sure I can say on the radio, but includes the word "jerk."
我想到了一个短语，我不确定我是否可以在广播中说出这个短语，但其中包含“混蛋”一词。
Usually, what I do is when my hand starts cramping, I'm getting really frustrated and angry, stop and play something that's fun.
通常，我所做的就是当我的手开始抽筋时，我会感到非常沮丧和愤怒，停下来玩一些有趣的东西。
And if you learn major and minor scales--
如果你学习大调和小调音阶——
When Lofgren mentions scales, it seems like everyone can play the do-re-mi one.
当洛夫格伦提到音阶时，似乎每个人都会演奏“do-re-mi”音阶。
But no one knows the blues scale he plays, the most basic downward spiral imaginable.
但没有人知道他演奏的布鲁斯音阶，这是可以想象到的最基本的螺旋式下降。
It seems like something you should be paying Kenny down at the Guitar Shack $10 to teach you instead of bothering the man who pinch-hits for Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young.
这似乎是你应该在吉他工作室付 10 美元给肯尼来教你的东西，而不是去打扰那个为布鲁斯·斯普林斯汀和尼尔·杨捏奏的人。
Lofgren informs the class that he's going to take a solo, and they should try and "keep the rhythm strong for me." Good luck.
洛夫格伦告诉全班同学，他将进行独奏，他们应该尝试“为我保持强劲的节奏”。祝你好运。
What's apparent isn't so much the gaping difference between skill or the lack of it, but rather the chasm between confidence and self-doubt.
显而易见的并不是技能与缺乏技能之间的巨大差异，而是自信与自我怀疑之间的鸿沟。
Lofgren plays tough, spare riffs and looks so easy-does-it cool.
洛夫格伦的演奏很硬朗，重复部分很少，看起来很轻松，很酷。
Meanwhile, all the campers around him are tapping their feet like they're marching off to the front lines, and all their eyes are fixed on their fingers, trying not to screw up.
与此同时，他周围的营员们都在敲着脚，就像是要上前线一样，他们的眼睛都盯着自己的手指，尽量不搞砸。
This seems like a good moment to pause and talk about what is and isn't rock and roll.
这似乎是停下来讨论什么是摇滚乐、什么不是摇滚乐的好时机。
As a believer in the anyone-can-do-it, all-or-nothing-at-all ethic of punk rock, I think real music's not about technique, or virtuosity, or knowing your scales.
作为朋克摇滚“任何人都可以做到”、“要么全有要么全无”道德的信徒，我认为真正的音乐与技术、精湛技艺或了解音阶无关。
It's about believing in what you have to say and wanting to say it so badly that you'll scream your guts out if that's what it takes to get people to listen.
这是关于相信你必须说的话，并且非常想说出来，如果这是让人们倾听所需要的，你会大声尖叫。
Later on, when I ask Lofgren if he met anyone in the camp he thought had real talent or anything to say, his answer was gracious, diplomatic.
后来，当我问洛夫格伦是否在营地中遇到了他认为有真正才华的人或有什么话要说时，他的回答是亲切而外交的。
Well, I heard a love for music in everybody.
嗯，我听到每个人都热爱音乐。
Over the course of the camp, I'll sit through nearly a dozen such seminars.
在训练营期间，我将参加近十几场此类研讨会。
And it becomes painfully obvious that rock and roll high school is a lot like real high school.
令人痛苦的是，摇滚高中很像真正的高中。
Subject matter doesn't matter as much as the personality of the teacher.
主题并不重要，重要的是老师的个性。
Everyone wants to be Lofgren's pet.
每个人都想成为洛夫格伦的宠物。
But Rick Derringer leads his guitar session like the nitpick who takes points off for bad penmanship.
但里克·德林格（Rick Derringer）在他的吉他演奏中就像一个挑剔的人一样，因为书写不好而被扣分。
Let's see if everybody's on the list.
让我们看看是否每个人都在名单上。
John Ralder?
约翰·拉尔德？
Is he here?
他在吗？
That's you.
那就是你。
John, how do you do?
约翰，你好吗？
Marian Green?
玛丽安·格林？
She's not here.
她不在这里。
Rick Derringer Is not here today.
里克·德林格今天不在。
Marian Green.
玛丽安·格林.
Peter--
彼得——
Yes, Derringer is the only instructor who actually took attendance.
是的，德林格是唯一真正出席的教练。
Attendance.
出席。
After showing off for a while, he proceeds to spend nearly 10 whole minutes spreading crackpot ideas, such as--
炫耀了一段时间后，他开始用近 10 分钟的时间传播一些疯狂的想法，比如——
And I like my guitar to be clean.
我喜欢我的吉他干净。
I find that if you get the [UNINTELLIGIBLE] grungy, and stuff in between the frets, and dirt up here, all of a sudden your arm starts sticking up here.
我发现，如果你的[难以理解]脏兮兮的，音柱之间有东西，这里有污垢，你的手臂会突然开始伸到这里。
And it just doesn't feel the same.
而且感觉不一样。
I see people sometimes playing, and their guitars are all dirty, and the strings are all out of whack, and things are real high.
我有时看到人们弹奏，他们的吉他都很脏，琴弦也不正常，而且声音非常高。
I think the most important thing is making your guitar playable.
我认为最重要的是让你的吉他可以弹奏。
So clean the thing.
所以把东西清理干净。
Clean it real good.
清洁得真好。
I do things like Pledge.
我做类似承诺之类的事情。
Pledge.
保证。
Pledge.
保证。
You know why?
你知道为什么吗？
I can't imagine anyone I admire talking this way.
我无法想象我敬佩的人会这样说话。
He is literally holding up a can of furniture polish like he's doing a TV commercial.
他举起一罐家具抛光剂，就像在拍电视广告一样。
Would Keith Richards display a spray bottle of 409?
Keith Richards 会展示 409 喷雾瓶吗？
Would Neil Young, asked to discuss his craft, even use the word "cleanliness?"
尼尔·杨（Neil Young）被要求讨论他的手艺时，会使用“清洁”这个词吗？
With Pledge.
与誓言。
Sarah Vowell And the thing is while I was gagging at Derringer's dopiness, most of the campers found him hilarious.
莎拉·沃威尔 (Sarah Vowell) 问题是，当我对德林格的昏昏欲睡感到作呕时，大多数营员都觉得他很搞笑。
In fact, these people sat through their workshops, and jam sessions, and lunch buffets with these serene smiles.
事实上，这些人在研讨会、即兴演奏会和自助午餐中都面带平静的微笑。
And watching them, I got jealous.
看着他们，我很嫉妒。
To me, music has always been an ideological battleground, where you hate-hate your enemies and save-save your friends.
对我来说，音乐一直是一个意识形态的战场，在这里你恨你的敌人，拯救你的朋友。
To them, music seems like this uncomplicated part of their lives that simply makes them happy.
对他们来说，音乐似乎是他们生活中简单的一部分，只是让他们快乐。
So I'm just here for fun, and to have some fun, and to get some exposure to some of the instruments.
所以我来这里只是为了好玩，享受一些乐趣，并接触一些乐器。
And I really just like the music.
我真的很喜欢音乐。
For me, the problem with hanging around the campers was this.
对我来说，和露营者在一起的问题是这样的。
They were so gosh darn nice, sweet even.
他们真是太好了，甚至很甜蜜。
My job as a grumpy commentator would've been a lot easier to stomach if they'd been the self-satisfied yuppies I'd come to make fun of.
如果他们是我来取笑的那些自鸣得意的雅皮士，我作为一个脾气暴躁的评论员的工作会更容易接受。
But they kind of ruined my fun by being so likable.
但他们太可爱了，破坏了我的乐趣。
I couldn't even mutter Peter Frampton insults under my breath without feeling guilty.
我什至无法低声嘀咕彼得·弗兰普顿的侮辱而不感到内疚。
And you know you're in some kind of parallel universe when the most punk rock person there is the reporter from Forbes.
当福布斯记者成为最朋克摇滚的人时，你就知道你正处于某种平行宇宙中。
The campers came all this way.
营员们大老远就来了。
They paid all this money.
他们付了所有这些钱。
It's their dream to meet these rock stars.
他们的梦想是见到这些摇滚明星。
So when they finally get to hang out with them, what do they talk about?
那么，当他们最终能和他们一起出去玩时，他们会谈论什么？
What's at the heart of their dream?
他们梦想的核心是什么？
I cornered Joe, a guitarist from Detroit, one night after dinner.
一天晚上晚饭后，我把来自底特律的吉他手乔逼到了墙角。
So Joe, when I was pulling back up to the hotel, I saw you getting out of a limo.
乔，当我回到酒店时，我看到你从豪华轿车中走出来。
It's the only way to travel.
这是旅行的唯一方式。
Sarah Vowell And whose limo were you traveling in?
莎拉·沃威尔（Sarah Vowell） 您乘坐谁的豪华轿车？
That was with Rick Derringer and also Lou Gramm.
里克·德林格（Rick Derringer）和卢·格拉姆（Lou Gramm）就是这样。
You went out to dinner?
你出去吃饭了吗？
Joe Yeah, we went out to dinner at Gloria Estefan's restaurant.
乔 是的，我们去格洛丽亚·埃斯特凡的餐厅吃晚饭。
And so what was that like, having dinner with those guys?
和那些家伙一起吃晚饭是什么感觉？
They were so congenial.
他们是如此投缘。
We had a sing-a-along in the car.
我们在车上一起唱歌。
We were doing some Foreigner songs.
我们正在做一些外国人歌曲。
And we were doing "Hang On Sloopy." And it was all a capella.
我们当时正在做“Hang On Sloopy”。都是无伴奏合唱。
And our little kids all joined in too to help out.
我们的小孩子也都加入进来帮忙。
So it was a group thing, the wives, the kids, the guys.
所以这是一个集体的事情，妻子、孩子、男人。
"Hang On Sloopy." I'll admit, I love that song, which came in handy for my sanity.
“坚持住，斯洛比。”我承认，我喜欢那首歌，它对我的理智很有用。
Since Derringer played on it a million years ago with his old band, The McCoys, it was constant jam session fodder at the camp.
自从一百万年前 Derringer 与他的老乐队 The McCoys 演奏这首歌以来，它一直是营地里即兴演奏的素材。
And one night, all the campers gathered on stage to perform it with Derringer singing lead, sparking one of the rare moments when the music they made together felt real and sounded exciting to them and to me.
一天晚上，所有营员聚集在舞台上，在 Derringer 领唱下表演，这是他们共同创作的音乐对他们和我来说感觉真实且听起来令人兴奋的罕见时刻之一。
That kind of excitement didn't last.
那种兴奋并没有持续多久。
For every second of participatory, palatable noise, there were three hours of rock star war stories.
每一秒的参与性、令人愉悦的噪音，都伴随着三个小时的摇滚明星战争故事。
And while I gave myself headaches from rolling my eyes, the campers ate these anecdotes up, egging on people like keyboardist Bobby Mayo to fill their heads with behind-the-scenes insights into Frampton Comes Alive, an album they had apparently memorized note for yucky note.
当我因翻白眼而头疼时，露营者们却把这些轶事都吃光了，并怂恿键盘手鲍比·梅奥(Bobby Mayo)等人用对《Frampton Comes Alive》的幕后见解来填充他们的头脑，这张专辑他们显然已经记下了一个又一个令人讨厌的音符。
We had gotten together as a group in January of that year, '75.
75 年 1 月，我们作为一个团体聚在一起。
And we started touring.
我们开始巡演。
We were opening for everybody.
我们向所有人开放。
We opened for ZZ Top, J.
我们为 ZZ Top, J 开业。
Geils, Rod Stewart, Black Sabbath.
盖尔斯、罗德·斯图尔特、黑色安息日。
You name it, we opened for these guys.
你能想到的，我们都为这些人开放。
Pretty much.
差不多了。
About 75% of it was done as an opening act.
其中大约 75% 是作为开场表演完成的。
And if you think listening to these tall tales once was boring, try twice.
如果您觉得听这些荒唐的故事一次很无聊，请尝试两次。
On the camp's last day, goofball Mike Love of The Beach Boys showed up.
在训练营的最后一天，海滩男孩的傻瓜迈克·洛夫出现了。
Every time he opened his mouth was a defamation of The Beach Boys' greatness.
他的每一次开口都是对海滩男孩伟大事业的诽谤。
He insulted his audience by telling the same stories at his afternoon lecture as he did on stage the very same night.
他在下午的演讲中讲了与当晚在舞台上讲的同样的故事，侮辱了听众。
Here's the afternoon.
这里是下午。
I was in India.
我当时在印度。
McCartney's in one bungalow, I'm in the other.
麦卡特尼住在一间平房，我住在另一间。
We used to have conversations up on the roof at night, under the stars.
我们常常在晚上在屋顶上、在星空下交谈。
It was pretty cool.
太酷了。
He said, "Mike, you oughta take more care with your album covers." He was the mastermind of Sgt.
他说：“迈克，你应该更加小心你的专辑封面。”他是中士的策划者。
Pepper's.
佩珀尔的。
Here's the evening.
晚上到了。
Mike Love He would say, "Mike, you should take more care of your album covers." This is the guy who conceived Sgt.
Mike Love 他会说：“Mike，你应该多关心一下你的专辑封面。”这就是孕育中士的人。
Pepper's.
佩珀尔的。
Afternoon.
下午。
Mike Love "So sensible you should say that." I said, "Yeah, well, with all due respect, we've always paid more attention to what goes in the album than on the cover," which is a touche remark, I have to admit.
Mike Love：“你应该这么说，太明智了。”我说，“是的，好吧，恕我直言，我们总是更关注专辑中的内容而不是封面上的内容，”我不得不承认，这是一个很微妙的言论。
Evening.
晚上。
Mike Love So I said, "Paul, we always took more care of what went in them." It was a [?
迈克·洛夫（Mike Love）所以我说：“保罗，我们总是更加注意里面的内容。”这是一个[?
touche event.
触摸事件。
?] You got to forgive me.
？]你必须原谅我。
And the sad thing is some people laughed both times.
可悲的是，有些人两次都笑了。
Maybe they were just being nice.
也许他们只是出于好意。
They were nice people.
他们都是好人。
Then it hit me.
然后它击中了我。
Sitting there watching them drink in all those, no doubt, enhanced rock star tall tales with such obvious glee was like watching new myths being born.
毫无疑问，坐在那里看着他们沉浸在所有这些增强的摇滚明星荒诞故事中，带着如此明显的欢乐，就像看着新的神话诞生一样。
Because anyone with relatives can tell you, rehashed, souped-up stories are not the sole property of washed-up rock stars.
因为任何有亲戚的人都可以告诉你，重述、强化的故事并不是过气的摇滚明星的专有财产。
I bet Joe from Detroit's going to be telling his Lou Gramm limo story for at least as long as Mike Love's been dissing Paul McCartney.
我敢打赌，底特律的乔至少会在迈克·洛夫（Mike Love）嘲笑保罗·麦卡特尼（Paul McCartney）的同时讲述他的卢·格拉姆豪华轿车的故事。
And I actually found this kind of reassuring.
我实际上发现这种令人安心的感觉。
Once the camp ended, I could go back to my beloved punky malcontents.
训练营结束后，我就可以回到我心爱的朋克不满者身边。
My nightmare was over the minute I boarded the plane home.
当我登上回家的飞机时，我的噩梦就结束了。
But I knew that for the spouses and children and co-workers of the campers, the nightmare had just begun.
但我知道，对于营员的配偶、孩子和同事来说，噩梦才刚刚开始。
Sarah Vowell is the author of the book Radio On and a music columnist for the online magazine Salon.
莎拉·沃威尔 (Sarah Vowell) 是《Radio On》一书的作者，也是在线杂志《沙龙》的音乐专栏作家。
She first wrote about Rock-n-Roll Fantasy Camp for Request Magazine.
她首先为《Request》杂志撰写有关摇滚幻想营的文章。
You said at the beginning of your story that your own rock and roll fantasy is that occasionally, every now and then, a song you like would actually come on the radio.
你在故事的开头说过，你自己的摇滚幻想是，偶尔，时不时地，一首你喜欢的歌曲实际上会出现在广播中。
So I did.
所以我做到了。
Ira, can you make my dream come true?
艾拉，你能让我梦想成真吗？
Indeed, I can, Sarah Vowell.
确实，我可以，莎拉·沃威尔。
What song would you like to hear on the radio?
您想在广播中听到哪首歌？
Well, there's this song that I played in my hotel room every night during the camp to remind me of my ideal, the thing I was looking for.
嗯，在训练营期间，我每天晚上都会在酒店房间里播放这首歌，以提醒我我的理想，我一直在寻找的东西。
It's the sixth song.
这是第六首歌。
This is by a little band called Sleater-Kinney.
这是由一个名叫 Sleater-Kinney 的小乐队创作的。
The song's called "Words and Guitar."
这首歌的名字是“文字与吉他”。
[MUSIC - "WORDS AND GUITAR" BY SLEATER-KINNEY]
[音乐 - 斯利特-金尼的《文字与吉他》]
Why this song?
为什么这首歌？
Sarah Vowell Because it's about the two most elemental things of rock and roll, words and guitar.
莎拉·沃威尔（Sarah Vowell）因为它涉及摇滚乐的两个最基本的东西：歌词和吉他。
And the way the band sings and plays the song, it's like those are the only two things you'll ever need.
乐队演唱和演奏歌曲的方式，就像这些是你唯一需要的两件事。
Act Two, Colors.
第二幕，颜色。
Well, that feeling of your dream, my nightmare can happen with the people you're closest to, not just strangers.
好吧，你的梦想，我的噩梦的那种感觉可能发生在你最亲近的人身上，而不仅仅是陌生人。
For instance, Marvin Tate was traveling with his wife, Lucy, and their two-year-old toddler, Ivy, to visit his sister in Tennessee.
例如，马文·泰特 (Marvin Tate) 与他的妻子露西 (Lucy) 和两岁的孩子艾维 (Ivy) 一起前往田纳西州看望他的妹妹。
And they could not agree on what sightseeing they wanted to do.
他们对于想要游览的景点也无法达成一致。
He wanted to go to the Ernie Tubb country music store.
他想去厄尼·塔布乡村音乐商店。
That is her nightmare.
那是她的噩梦。
She wanted to go to the Belle Meade plantation.
她想去贝尔·米德种植园。
That was his nightmare.
那是他的噩梦。
He's black.
他是黑人。
She's white.
她是白人。
And he could just not understand what possible interest she could have in this.
他只是无法理解她会对这个有什么兴趣。
But she insisted.
但她坚持说。
I could tell by the determined look on Lucy's face that there wasn't going to be any turning back, not now or ever.
从露西脸上坚定的表情我可以看出，无论现在还是将来，都不会再有任何回头路。
Lucy thumbed her way through a travel guide, looking for directions to the Belle Meade plantation.
露西翻阅了一本旅游指南，寻找前往贝尔·米德种植园的路线。
I went inside the gas station to ask the guy sitting behind the register, a beef-jerky-chewing, Snapple-drinking Leon Russell type in overalls, a baseball cap, and a coffee-stained "I hate New Yorkers" T-shirt on.
我走进加油站，询问坐在收银台后面的那个人，他穿着利昂·拉塞尔 (Leon Russell) 式的工装裤，嚼着牛肉干，喝着 Snapple，戴着棒球帽，穿着一件沾满咖啡色的“我讨厌纽约人”T 恤。
Well, I thought, maybe he'd be too dumb to have ever heard of the Belle Meade.
好吧，我想，也许他太蠢了，从来没有听说过贝尔·米德。
And then I'd be off the hook, and we wouldn't have to go.
然后我就摆脱了困境，我们也不必去了。
"Excuse me, sir.
“对不起，先生。
Sir, excuse me.
先生，请原谅。
Could you please tell me how to get to the Belle Meade plantation?" How ridiculous I must have sounded.
你能告诉我怎么去贝尔米德种植园吗？”我听起来一定很可笑。
Plaaaaaan-tation.
Plaaaaaantation。
A contemporary brother, man, asking for directions on how to get to some plantation turned museum.
一位当代的兄弟，询问如何前往某个由种植园改建的博物馆。
Back in the car, Lucy drove like a maniac as if there was a pot of gold at the end of our destination.
回到车上，露西像个疯子一样开着车，仿佛目的地的尽头有一桶金子。
And then there we were, at the old Belle Meade plantation.
然后我们就到了老贝尔米德种植园。
I looked at my family.
我看着我的家人。
It was becoming quite obvious that this trip had taken its toll on me and the way I talked.
很明显，这次旅行对我和我说话的方式造成了影响。
I said to them, "I'm an ooold Negro from the ooold South.
我对他们说：“我是一个来自南方的老黑人。
And I welcome you here to the ooold Belle Meade.
欢迎您来到古老的贝尔米德酒店。
You might recognize me from the ooold Negro League.
你可能会认出我来自古老的黑人联盟。
My name is Sonny Jackson.
我的名字是桑尼·杰克逊。
And this here-- this here is my teary-eyed, mulatto baby, Ivy.
这是我泪眼汪汪的混血儿宝贝艾薇。
And seated next to her is the oooold massa's daughter, Lucy."
坐在她旁边的是老马萨的女儿露西。”
I took a deep breath, and swallowed, and climbed out the car.
我深吸了一口气，咽了口唾沫，然后下了车。
Dammit, I thought, here I go again.
该死，我想，我又来了。
The only brother at an all-white affair.
唯一参加全白婚礼的兄弟。
At first, no one seemed to notice me.
起初，似乎没有人注意到我。
Not until Lucy kissed me on the cheek did all the double- and triple-takes begin.
直到露西吻了我的脸颊，所有的双重和三重考虑才开始。
One woman, losing sight of what she was doing, nearly knocked over the torso of a commemoration statue.
一名妇女由于看不到自己在做什么，差点撞倒纪念雕像的躯干。
A balding man, who looked like an employee, walked into an old barnyard, quickly stepped back out, took off his glasses, and wiped them clean with his shirttail.
一个看起来像是雇员的秃顶男人走进了一个破旧的谷仓，迅速退了出来，摘下眼镜，用衬衣下摆擦干净。
It was that brief moment that I knew.
就在那短暂的时刻我知道了。
I knew that I had to change history.
我知道我必须改变历史。
No more camouflaging and going with the program, so that everything could be hokey-dokey OK.
不再伪装，不再随波逐流，这样一切就都可以做作了。
I had made up my mind that whoever that tour guide was going to be that I was going to show them that I wasn't just another token black guy who can take an extra shot, decaf, vanilla latte with no foam.
我已经下定决心，无论那个导游是谁，我都要向他们展示我不仅仅是一个象征性的黑人，可以多喝一杯无咖啡因、无泡沫的香草拿铁。
Or the brother who had integrated into the mainstream by marrying someone white.
或者是通过与白人结婚而融入主流的兄弟。
This time, I was determined to drop the bomb, P-Funk style, by asking questions that the other tourists would be too afraid to ask.
这一次，我决心以 P-Funk 风格投下炸弹，提出其他游客不敢问的问题。
Going back in time is going to be cool, the way Mr. Peabody and his boy, Sherman, used to do.
回到过去会很酷，就像皮博迪先生和他的儿子谢尔曼过去所做的那样。
The only difference would be that I was not going to be stepping in the time machine.
唯一的区别是我不会踏上时间机器。
And the past I had to conquer was staring me right in the face.
而我必须克服的过去就摆在我面前。
Lucy and I got in line for the tour.
露西和我排队参观。
I clutched my ticket and whispered in Lucy's ear, "Now you lissen here, Miss Lucy.
我抓起车票，在露西耳边低声说道：“露西小姐，现在请听我的。
I's ain't about to go in no massa's house without his permission." Lucy kissed Ivy on the head and said, "Daddy's pretending to be a slave."
没有他的允许，我不会去任何马萨的房子。”露西亲吻艾薇的头，说道：“爸爸在假装奴隶。”
From out of the front door came our tour guide, Gussie, waifish-like with a Scarlett O'Hara number on.
我们的导游格西从前门走了进来，他像个流浪汉，戴着斯嘉丽·奥哈拉的电话号码。
"Welcome to the Belle Meade," Gussie said, ringing that tiny bell to gather everybody's attention.
“欢迎来到贝尔米德，”格西一边说，一边敲响小铃来吸引大家的注意力。
"As you can notice from the three magnificent rocking chairs that sit behind me on the porch, the Belle Meade's owners had a lavish appetite for space and anything big.
“你可以从我身后门廊上的三张华丽的摇椅中注意到，贝尔米德酒店的主人对空间和任何大的东西都有着巨大的胃口。
These rocking chairs were all carved by local artisans of the day.
这些摇椅都是由当时当地的工匠雕刻而成。
They were designed to look like thrones."
它们被设计成看起来像王座。”
Gussie acted like she and the rest of her Civil-War-cladded patriots had the coolest summer job in the world, telling useless historical anecdotes to white tourists, nostalgic for the days of Southern chivalry.
格西表现得好像她和其他身着内战服装的爱国者从事着世界上最酷的暑期工作，向怀念南方骑士时代的白人游客讲述无用的历史轶事。
She told us stuff about the curtains, china patterns, silverware patterns, carpet patterns.
她告诉我们有关窗帘、瓷器图案、银器图案、地毯图案的事情。
And for some reason-- now, maybe there's something wrong with me-- but for some reason, everyone was eating these trivial tidbits up.
出于某种原因——现在，也许我出了什么问题——但出于某种原因，每个人都在吃这些琐碎的小事。
I couldn't believe it.
我简直不敢相信。
One excited tourist, who looked like he had just stepped off the sandy beaches of Miami, shot his hand up in the air.
一位兴奋的游客举起了手，看上去就像刚从迈阿密的沙滩上走下来一样。
"How did they keep the rodents out the house?" "Why, with a straw broom and lots of cats," responded Gussie.
“他们是怎么把啮齿动物赶出家门的？” “为什么，有一把草扫帚和很多猫，”格西回答道。
"Why are the walls painted in such pale blues and greens?"
“为什么墙壁漆成这样的浅蓝色和绿色？”
While everyone continued with these small, trivial facts, it seemed there was one big, important fact of life here that everyone was not talking about.
当每个人都在继续谈论这些小而琐碎的事实时，似乎这里有一个大而重要的生活事实，每个人都没有谈论。
I'll spell it for you.
我给你拼写一下。
S-L-A-V-E-R-Y.
S-L-A-V-E-R-Y。
Now does that sound like a four-letter word to you?
现在你觉得这听起来像一个四个字母的词吗？
Thank you.
谢谢。
I knew now that I was in the past.
我现在知道我已经成为过去了。
I had gone beyond the past.
我已经超越了过去。
I was in the ooold South.
我当时在南方。
And there was no turning back.
并且没有回头路。
My patience with this Twilight Zone episode was ending.
我对《暮光之城》这一集的耐心即将结束。
I thought that if I could just figure out the perfect question to ask, well, I could turn this whole thing around, and history would no longer be from Gussie's point of view.
我想，如果我能找出一个完美的问题来问，那么，我就可以扭转整个事情，历史将不再是从格西的角度来看的。
"OK," I'd say, "by the way, Gussie, did General Harding ever rape one of his slaves?" Nah, that would sound more like an accusation more so than an intelligent question.
“好吧，”我会说，“顺便问一下，格西，哈丁将军强奸过他的一名奴隶吗？”不，这听起来更像是一种指控，而不是一个明智的问题。
OK, I'd say, "So Gussie, are you the descendants of slave owners?
好吧，我会说，“那么 Gussie，你是奴隶主的后裔吗？
And if so, how did you benefit from it?" No, that sounded too much like a Farrakhan rip-off.
如果是这样，你是如何从中受益的？”不，这听起来太像法拉罕的抄袭了。
I had to go someplace.
我必须去某个地方。
I had to go someplace where I could concentrate, put it all on paper, so that it could sound perfect, like it was just another matter-of-fact question out of curiosity.
我必须去一个我可以集中注意力的地方，把一切都写在纸上，这样听起来就很完美，就像这只是出于好奇而提出的另一个实事求是的问题。
I couldn't make them think I was some kind of overly sensitive black guy who couldn't take the past for what it was.
我不能让他们认为我是一个过于敏感的黑人，无法接受过去的真相。
An older man with an intellectual face, the beard and glasses, raised his hand.
一位留着胡须、戴着眼镜、长着一张知性面孔的年长男子举起了手。
And I thought, "Well, here's a guy who looks like a professor.
我想，“好吧，这是一个看起来像教授的人。
He probably sees that there's a black guy here.
他可能看到这里有一个黑人。
Maybe we should ask the most important question." He cleared his throat, stroked his beard, and asked his question.
也许我们应该问最重要的问题。”他清了清嗓子，摸了摸胡须，问道。
"How the dickens did General Harding manage to keep the place so magnificently brilliant with all those horses?"
“哈丁将军是如何让这个地方在这么多马匹的帮助下保持如此辉煌的？”
I didn't know what to say.
我不知道该说什么。
So I left the group and went to the next room to prepare my question, the question that was going to end this tour.
所以我离开了小组，去隔壁房间准备我的问题，这个问题将结束这次旅行。
I needed to concentrate.
我需要集中注意力。
I carried Ivy into the next room, closed my eyes, and I thought.
我抱着艾薇走进隔壁房间，闭上眼睛，我想。
"Well, Gussie, you never mentioned anything about slaves.
“好吧，格西，你从来没有提到过有关奴隶的事情。
Did Nat Turner ever visit your plantation?" "Gussie, where did the slaves eat?
纳特·特纳去过你的种植园吗？” “格西，奴隶们在哪里吃饭？
Where did they sleep?" "Gussie, did you ever see the movie Mandingo?
他们睡哪儿了？” “Gussie，你看过电影《曼丁哥》吗？
The part where Ken Norton sleeps with the master's wife?" "You ever tried to do a field holler?" Or "Gussie, who invented the blues?"
肯·诺顿和主人的妻子睡觉的那部分？” “你试过在野外喊叫吗？”或者“Gussie，谁发明了布鲁斯？”
Suddenly, they all entered the room.
突然，他们都进入了房间。
"How's the baby?" Gussie asked.
“宝宝怎么样了？”格西问道。
Immediately following her was Lucy, snapping pictures of the beautiful chandelier that hung like a giant earring from the ceiling.
露西紧随其后，为天花板上像巨型耳环一样悬挂的美丽枝形吊灯拍照。
"Enjoying yourself?" she asked.
“玩得开心吗？”她问道。
"Isn't this beautiful?"
“这不是很漂亮吗？”
Suddenly, I realized that Lucy, my dear wife, was one of them.
突然，我意识到我亲爱的妻子露西就是其中之一。
God save us.
上帝拯救我们。
I took a deep breath and waited for my moment, my question, my reasons for being.
我深吸了一口气，等待着属于我的时刻、我的问题、我存在的理由。
Not even sure what I was going to say, I raised my hand.
我不确定自己要说什么，就举起了手。
Gussie looked my way.
格西朝我这边看去。
I could hear the voices of my ancestors telling me to keep going.
我能听到祖先的声音告诉我要继续前进。
"Go, Marvin.
“走吧，马文。
Go, Marvin.
走吧，马文。
Go, original black man." All the injustices of the black race were now on my shoulders.
走吧，原始黑人。”黑人种族的所有不公正现在都落在了我的肩上。
My responsibility was clear.
我的责任很明确。
Gussie paused before pointing to me.
格西停顿了一下，然后指着我。
We locked eyes.
我们四目相对。
And then Ivy let out the most ferocious scream she had ever made in her short life.
然后艾薇发出了她短暂一生中最凶猛的尖叫声。
"Why-- What--" I couldn't get it out.
“为什么——什么——”我说不出来。
Ivy continued to sob and cry out piercing yells.
艾薇继续抽泣，发出刺耳的叫喊。
It must have sounded like we were trying to kidnap her.
听起来我们一定是想绑架她。
"Let's go," I said.
“我们走吧，”我说。
And like a team of emergency paramedics, we were out that door.
就像一支紧急护理人员团队一样，我们走出了那扇门。
The sun shined like lemon skins.
阳光像柠檬皮一样闪闪发光。
And Ivy returned back to her smiley-faced innocence.
艾薇又回到了她笑脸纯真的状态。
I still don't know what've been the right thing for me to do at the Belle Meade.
我仍然不知道我在贝尔米德酒店做什么才是正确的。
I couldn't tell if I was supposed to be a militant, arty Afrocentric or a well-adjusted, integrated black guy.
我不知道自己应该是一个好战的、附庸风雅的非洲中心主义者，还是一个适应能力强、融入社会的黑人。
And one day, when Ivy gets into one of these situations, I'm not quite sure what advice I'd give her.
有一天，当艾薇陷入其中一种情况时，我不太确定该给她什么建议。
A few hours later, after we visit the Belle Meade, I made Lucy go with me this time to the Ernest Tubb Record Store.
几个小时后，我们参观了贝尔·米德之后，这次我让露西和我一起去了欧内斯特·塔布唱片店。
I've always liked country music.
我一直很喜欢乡村音乐。
In fact, you could say country music was a part of my life, if you could believe that.
事实上，如果你相信的话，你可以说乡村音乐是我生活的一部分。
So in the Ernest Tubb store, for some reason, I wanted to show the good old boys that I knew a little something about country music, too.
因此，在欧内斯特·塔布 (Ernest Tubb) 商店里，出于某种原因，我想向那些好心的老男孩们展示我也对乡村音乐有所了解。
So I asked him.
所以我问他。
I asked him about an obscure and eccentric fiddle player named Stringbean.
我向他询问了一位名叫 Stringbean 的不起眼且古怪的小提琴手。
Neither one of the clerks seemed impressed.
两位职员似乎都没有留下深刻的印象。
And while I talked to one of them, the other one handed Ivy a Confederate flag to play with.
当我和其中一个人交谈时，另一个人递给艾维一面南方联盟旗帜让他玩。
Maybe he was trying to be friendly.
也许他是想表现得友好。
Maybe he was trying to be nice.
也许他是想表现得友善。
Sometimes I think I'm a bit too sensitive about all this race stuff.
有时我觉得我对所有这些种族问题有点太敏感了。
But maybe, maybe he was trying to send me a message.
但也许，也许他想给我发消息。
Maybe he knew exactly how I feel about the old Stars and Bars.
也许他很清楚我对旧星条酒吧的感受。
I don't know about these situations.
我不知道这些情况。
Lucy and I headed out the door, arm in arm, our baby happily waving the Confederate flag.
露西和我手挽手走出门，我们的孩子高兴地挥舞着南方联盟的旗帜。
Marvin Tate is a performer and a poet living here in Chicago.
马文·泰特 (Marvin Tate) 是一位居住在芝加哥的表演者和诗人。
Coming up, David Sedaris on the golf course, the news story to end all news stories, and more, in a minute when our program continues.
接下来，大卫·塞达里斯 (David Sedaris) 在高尔夫球场上的新闻报道将结束所有新闻报道，以及更多内容，我们的节目继续进行。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week, of course, we choose a theme, invite a wide variety of writers, performers, and documentary producers to take a whack at that theme with radio monologues, original reporting, found tape, anything they can think of.
当然，每周我们都会选择一个主题，邀请各种各样的作家、表演者和纪录片制作人，用广播独白、原创报道、找到的磁带以及他们能想到的任何东西来探讨这个主题。
Today's program, Your Dream, My Nightmare, stories of people simply not agreeing on what is good at some fundamental human level.
今天的节目《你的梦想，我的噩梦》讲述了人们在人类基本层面上对什么是善的看法不一致的故事。
We've arrived at Act Three, Motion.
我们已经到了第三幕，动议。
Well, while putting this show together this week, I picked up one of the local papers here in Chicago, and I realized that nearly every story on the front page was a narrative basically along the themes of your dream, my nightmare.
好吧，在本周整理这个节目时，我拿起芝加哥当地的一份报纸，我意识到头版上的几乎每个故事都是基本上沿着你的梦想，我的噩梦的主题进行的叙述。
I have the paper here.
我这里有纸。
The lead story is about the transit authority here in Chicago phasing out subway train conductors.
主要故事是关于芝加哥交通当局逐步淘汰地铁列车售票员的故事。
Taxpayers' dream, saving $4 million a year.
纳税人的梦想，每年节省 400 万美元。
Train conductors' nightmare.
火车售票员的噩梦。
Just below that story, a piece about Rupert Murdoch achieving one of his many dreams, I assume, making his own sports cable network.
就在这个故事的下面，有一篇关于鲁珀特·默多克实现他众多梦想之一的文章，我想，创建自己的体育有线电视网络。
ESPN's nightmare.
ESPN 的噩梦。
To the left of that, with a very odd, I have to say, picture of Hillary Clinton kind of holding her fingers together in one of those little church shapes, her fingertips touching, looking both pious and extremely nervous, there's a story about one of Kenneth Starr's dreams and her nightmares.
在左边，我不得不说，有一张非常奇怪的照片，希拉里·克林顿(Hillary Clinton)在一个小教堂的形状中十指并拢，指尖相触，看起来既虔诚又极度紧张，有一个关于肯尼思·斯塔尔(Kenneth Starr)的梦想和噩梦的故事。
She has to turn over notes of her conversations with lawyers to the Whitewater independent counsel, and so forth, and so on.
她必须将与律师的谈话记录交给白水独立律师，等等。
You get the idea.
你明白了。
Well, Jay Allison is a seasoned newsman, does stories for ABC's Nightline and for all sorts of big public radio programs.
杰伊·艾利森 (Jay Allison) 是一位经验丰富的新闻记者，为美国广播公司 (ABC) 的夜线和各种大型公共广播节目撰写故事。
And a while back, he realized that all the stories he was doing basically boiled down to one plot line, told over and over in various ways with different characters.
不久前，他意识到他正在做的所有故事基本上都归结为一条情节线，以不同的方式和不同的角色一遍又一遍地讲述。
Someone, somewhere, had the dream of moving to a new neighborhood.
某个地方的某个人梦想着搬到一个新的社区。
And that dream was somebody else's nightmare.
那个梦想是别人的噩梦。
Well, after he figured this out, he took the taped interviews he'd gathered on a number of stories, and he concocted this composite story to prove his point.
好吧，在他弄清楚这一点后，他录制了他收集的一些故事的采访录音，并编造了这个综合故事来证明他的观点。
It started up last night.
昨晚就开始了。
I had taken the kids to the carnival, and we all got back around 9:00.
我带孩子们去参加嘉年华，我们都在 9:00 左右回来。
And I wanted to water the lawn before I went to bed, but Artie Davis had borrowed the sprinkler.
我想在睡觉前给草坪浇水，但阿蒂·戴维斯借了洒水器。
So I went across the street to get it back from him, and I saw the light was on in his garage.
于是我穿过马路去从他那里拿回它，我看到他车库里的灯亮着。
Inside were Artie and his wife, June, Sam Lawson, and Reverend James.
里面有阿蒂和他的妻子琼、萨姆·劳森和詹姆斯牧师。
They were talking about the new people in the neighborhood, and they were pretty worked up.
他们正在谈论邻居里的新朋友，他们都很兴奋。
The people in this town just don't want 'em here.
这个镇上的人们只是不想让他们在这里。
They want 'em out.
他们想要他们出去。
And from the word that's around, they'll do about anything to get 'em out.
据传闻，他们会不择手段地把他们救出来。
Everyone was upset.
每个人都很沮丧。
They had been since these people moved in two weeks ago.
自从这些人两周前搬进来以来就一直如此。
Sam Lawson said there was no reason we had to put up with this.
萨姆·劳森说我们没有理由必须忍受这一点。
He said, "These people are freaks." He called them "garbage."
他说：“这些人都是怪胎。”他称它们为“垃圾”。
They're garbage.
他们是垃圾。
Jay Allison "They're just garbage," he said.
杰·艾利森“他们只是垃圾，”他说。
They're just garbage.
他们只是垃圾。
And there's no reason that garbage like that has got to intimidate decent people because they think they're defenseless.
像这样的垃圾没有理由吓倒正派的人，因为他们认为自己毫无防备。
And even Reverend James didn't have a kind word to say about these new people.
就连詹姆斯牧师也没有对这些新人说好话。
And we just don't want 'em here.
我们只是不想让他们在这里。
And that's what it's all about.
这就是全部内容。
Get 'em out of here.
带他们离开这里。
They don't belong here, and we don't want 'em here.
他们不属于这里，我们也不希望他们在这里。
Well, this afternoon, things hadn't calmed down too much.
嗯，今天下午，事情并没有平静太多。
The whole neighborhood was on edge about these new people.
整个社区都对这些新来的人感到紧张。
Artie Davis said they didn't scare him, but they scared his wife.
阿蒂·戴维斯说，他们没有吓到他，但吓到了他的妻子。
They don't frighten me, but they do her.
他们不会吓到我，但他们会吓到她。
Artie said his wife, June, had a dream about these freaks last night.
阿蒂说，他的妻子琼昨晚梦见了这些怪物。
And he wasn't gonna stand for it.
他不会忍受这样的事情。
In June's dream, one of these freaks tried to make June look into his eyes.
在琼的梦中，其中一个怪物试图让琼看着他的眼睛。
--to get me to look in his eyes.
——让我看着他的眼睛。
And I wouldn't do it because his eyes were real--
我不会这么做，因为他的眼睛是真实的——
But June wouldn't do it because the whites in his eyes were real big.
但琼不会这么做，因为他的眼白太大了。
--the whites in his eyes were real big, and they were shiny.
——他的眼白很大，而且闪闪发亮。
And they were shiny, like the devil's or something.
而且它们闪闪发光，就像魔鬼的东西一样。
Early this evening, the four of us gathered at my place to decide what to do.
今晚早些时候，我们四个人聚集在我的住处决定要做什么。
June stayed home because, Artie said, she was frightened.
阿蒂说，琼呆在家里，因为她很害怕。
All day long, Artie and Sam had patrolled outside the house the freaks moved into.
阿蒂和萨姆一整天都在怪物搬进的房子外面巡逻。
And the freaks never came out.
而怪物们却始终没有出来。
They just stayed inside, which was strange in itself.
他们只是呆在里面，这本身就很奇怪。
Reverend James arrived around 8 o'clock.
詹姆斯牧师于八点左右抵达。
He was still upset about the situation.
他仍然对这种情况感到不安。
It's disgusting.
那真令人恶心。
Jay Allison But he had an idea.
杰·艾利森但他有一个主意。
I would get me 100 good men, give them each a baseball bat, and dare one of these freaks to stick his head over the edge of the sidewalk.
我会找 100 个好人，给他们每人一根棒球棒，然后挑战其中一个怪物将头伸出人行道边缘。
Well, that didn't sound too bad.
嗯，听起来还不错。
But the rest of us couldn't figure out where we could come up with 100 men.
但我们其他人不知道从哪里能找到 100 个人。
Men?
男人？
Listen, I know at least 500 men who would be only too happy to serve.
听着，我知道至少有 500 名士兵非常乐意服役。
Happen to be all Christians in my church that I had in mind.
碰巧是我心目中教会里的所有基督徒。
Still, we wondered if 500 men were really necessary.
尽管如此，我们还是想知道 500 人是否真的有必要。
Then make it 25.
然后定为25。
Make it 10 men.
使其成为 10 名男子。
Make it five men.
使其成为五个人。
So we talked it over and decided that just the four of us could take care of things by ourselves.
于是我们商量了一下，决定就我们四个人自己解决事情。
On our way, we stopped by and told June what we were going to do.
在路上，我们顺便路过并告诉琼我们要做什么。
I feel like I'm sitting on pins and needles just waiting.
我感觉我如坐针毡地等待着。
Then we checked to see that we had everything we needed.
然后我们检查了一下是否拥有我们需要的一切。
All we need is some good old-fashioned guts and morals.
我们所需要的只是一些良好的老式勇气和道德。
And so at 10 o'clock, we marched on over to the freaks' house.
就这样，十点钟，我们继续向怪物们的房子走去。
We were ready for anything.
我们已经做好了一切准备。
From our position in their front yard, we could see them moving around inside their house.
从我们在他们前院的位置，我们可以看到他们在房子里走动。
We tried everything we could think of.
我们尝试了一切我们能想到的。
I think they knew we weren't kidding around this time.
我想他们知道我们这次不是在开玩笑。
But they wouldn't come outside.
但他们不肯出来。
Sam thought maybe we should try setting fire to the place or something.
萨姆想也许我们应该尝试放火烧掉这个地方或者其他什么。
But Reverend James pointed out that that would be destruction of property.
但詹姆斯牧师指出，这将是对财产的破坏。
So we waited.
所以我们等待。
But by 12 o'clock, it started to get cold, and we were hungry.
但到了12点，天气开始变冷，我们也饿了。
So we came on home.
于是我们就回家了。
But tomorrow night, we're going back.
但明天晚上，我们就要回去了。
June says she'll pack some food for us to take along.
琼说她会打包一些食物供我们携带。
Sam's bringing his portable TV set and some blankets.
萨姆带来了他的便携式电视机和一些毯子。
Reverend James is bringing the baseball bats again.
詹姆斯牧师再次带来了棒球棒。
And I'm bringing the beer.
我带来了啤酒。
Jay Allison's story is part of his series Life Stories produced with Tina Egloff.
杰·艾利森的故事是他与蒂娜·埃格洛夫共同制作的系列《生活故事》的一部分。
Act Four, Blood.
第四幕，血。
Well, some of the biggest your-dream-my-nightmare situations happen between parents and children.
嗯，一些最大的“你的梦我的噩梦”情况发生在父母和孩子之间。
One of the central tensions, I believe, between parents and their adult kids is the adult children not living up to their parents' dreams for what they should have turned into and who they should have been.
我认为，父母和成年子女之间的主要紧张关系之一是成年子女没有实现父母对他们应该成为的人和他们应该成为的人的梦想。
In this light, thinking about our show this week, I realized this about my own family, that, when I was a kid, my mom had this dream for my older sister.
有鉴于此，想想我们本周的节目，我意识到我自己的家庭，当我还是个孩子的时候，我妈妈对我姐姐有这个梦想。
She wanted my older sister to play the piano.
她想让我姐姐弹钢琴。
My older sister was actually really wonderful at playing the piano.
我姐姐的钢琴弹得真的很棒。
But my mom really thought she could be a professional.
但我妈妈真的认为她可以成为一名专业人士。
And my mom's dream for me was-- if she had to articulate it, I think she would have said-- and she did say sometimes-- that she wanted me to be a doctor.
我妈妈对我的梦想是——如果她必须明确表达的话，我想她会说——她有时确实说过——她希望我成为一名医生。
Neither thing really worked out.
这两件事都没有真正解决。
My sister went to business school.
我姐姐去了商学院。
Here I am.
我在这里。
And as it turned out, as my mom got older, she became a doctor.
事实证明，随着我妈妈年龄的增长，她成为了一名医生。
She's a psychologist now.
她现在是一名心理学家。
And just recently, in the last two years, she started playing the piano, too.
就在最近，在过去的两年里，她也开始弹钢琴。
Well, not everybody is lucky to have parents who basically transfer their own dream back onto themselves and off the kids.
好吧，并不是每个人都幸运地拥有将自己的梦想转移到自己身上而不是孩子身上的父母。
One of those people is David Sedaris.
大卫·塞达里斯就是其中之一。
He has this story of parents and children.
他有一个关于父母和孩子的故事。
My sister, Lisa, became a woman on the 14th hole of the Pinehurst golf course.
我的妹妹丽莎在松林高尔夫球场的第 14 洞成为了一名女性。
That's what she was told by the stranger who led her to the women's lounge.
这是带她到女士休息室的陌生人告诉她的。
"Relax, sugar, you're a woman now."
“放心吧，亲爱的，你现在是个女人了。”
We had gone unwittingly, shanghaied by our father who had offered to take Lisa and I for a ride in the second-hand Porsche he'd recently bought.
我们不知不觉地就去了，父亲主动提出要带丽莎和我去兜风，他最近买了一辆二手保时捷。
His sherbet-colored pants should have tipped us off.
他的果子露色裤子应该让我们知道的。
But seeing as there were no golf clubs in the backseat, we thought we were safe.
但由于后座上没有高尔夫球杆，我们认为我们是安全的。
There was nothing worse than spending an afternoon on the golf course, especially for Lisa, who was troubled that day by unexplained cramps.
没有什么比在高尔夫球场度过一个下午更糟糕的了，尤其是对丽莎来说，那天她受到不明原因的抽筋的困扰。
"Just a short, little jaunt," my father said.
“只是一次短暂的短途旅行，”我父亲说。
He folded back the car's canvas roof and crouched into the driver's seat.
他把车子的帆布车顶折回去，蹲在驾驶座上。
"Hell, maybe we'll just tool up to the fairgrounds and back.
“天哪，也许我们只是带着工具去游乐场然后回来。
Maybe we'll go get ourselves some ice cream.
也许我们会去买点冰淇淋。
Who knows?"
谁知道？”
The map, the nervous glances at his watch.
地图，紧张地看了一眼手表。
It soon became apparent that this was no joy ride.
很快我们就发现这并不是一次愉快的旅程。
Our father knew exactly where we were headed and had it planned so that we'd arrive just in time for the tee off.
我们的父亲确切地知道我们要去哪里，并做好了计划，以便我们能够及时到达开球地点。
"Well, what do you know?" he said, pulling off the road and into the crowded golf course parking lot.
“嗯，你知道什么？”他说着，把车驶离公路，开进了拥挤的高尔夫球场停车场。
"I wonder if there's not some kind of a tournament taking place.
“我想知道是否没有举办某种比赛。
What do you say we take a quick peek?
你说我们快速浏览一下怎么样？
Gosh, this is a beautiful place.
天哪，这是一个美丽的地方。
Wait'll you get a look at these fairways."
等等你看看这些球道。”
Lisa and I groaned, cursing our stupidity.
丽莎和我呻吟着，咒骂我们的愚蠢。
Once again, we'd been tricked.
我们再一次被骗了。
We knew what was in store for us and understood that the next few hours would pass like days or maybe even weeks.
我们知道接下来会发生什么，也知道接下来的几个小时会像几天甚至几周一样过去。
Our watches would yawn, the minute hand pausing to nap before sluggishly completing its rounds.
我们的手表会打哈欠，分针会在缓慢地完成其转动之前停下来打盹。
First, our father would push us to the front of a large, gaily-dressed crowd.
首先，我们的父亲会把我们推到一大群衣着华丽的人群面前。
Robbed of their choice spots, these spectators would huff and grumble, whispering insults we would pretend not to hear.
被剥夺了自己选择的位置后，这些观众会愤怒地抱怨，低声侮辱我们假装没有听到。
"They're kids," my father would say.
“他们还是孩子，”我父亲会说。
"What do you want them to do, stand on my shoulders?
“你想让他们做什么，站在我的肩膀上？
Come on now, pal, have a heart."
来吧，朋友，有一颗心。”
The big boys were playing that day, men whose names we recognized from the magazines my father kept stacked beside the toilet and heaped in the backseat of his car.
那天，大男孩们正在玩耍，我们从父亲堆放在马桶旁边和汽车后座的杂志上认出了他们的名字。
We'd seen these players on television and heard their strengths and weaknesses debated by the maniacs who frequented the pro shop of our country club.
我们在电视上看到过这些球员，也听到那些经常光顾我们乡村俱乐部专卖店的疯子们讨论他们的优点和缺点。
Seeing the pros in person was no more interesting than eating an ice-cold hamburger.
亲眼见到职业选手并不比吃冰冷的汉堡更有趣。
But it meant the world to our father, who hoped their presence might kindle a passion, inciting us to take up our clubs and strive for excellence.
但这对我们的父亲来说意味着整个世界，他希望他们的存在能够点燃激情，激励我们拿起我们的俱乐部，追求卓越。
This was, for him, an act of love, a misguided attempt to enrich our lives and bring us closer together as a family.
对他来说，这是一种爱的行为，是一种被误导的尝试，旨在丰富我们的生活，让我们作为一个家庭更加紧密地联系在一起。
"You kids are so damn lucky," he said, placing his hands on our shoulders.
“你们孩子真是太幸运了，”他把手放在我们的肩膀上说道。
"These are the best players in the PGA.
“这些是 PGA 中最好的球员。
And here you are with front-row seats." "What seats?" Lisa asked.
在这里，你的座位是前排。” “什么座位？”丽莎问道。
"Where?"
“在哪里？”
We stood on the grassy embankment, watching as the first player teed off.
我们站在长满青草的路堤上，看着第一个球员开球。
"Lisa," my father whispered.
“丽莎，”我父亲低声说道。
"Go get it.
“去拿吧。
Go get Snead's tee." When Lisa refused, it was up to me to wander onto the green, searching for the spent wooden peg that might have traveled anywhere from 6 to 20 feet from its original position.
去拿斯尼德的T恤。”当丽莎拒绝时，我就得在果岭上漫步，寻找可能已经离开原来位置 6 到 20 英尺的用过的木桩。
Our father collected these tees as good-luck charms and kept them stored in the goldfish bowl which sat upon his dresser.
我们的父亲收集了这些 T 恤作为幸运符，并将它们存放在梳妆台上的金鱼缸里。
It was forbidden to wander onto the course during a tournament, so our father sent us to do his dirty work, hoping the officials might see us as enthusiastic upstarts, who decorated our rooms with posters of the masters working their way out of sand traps or hoisting a trophy after a stunning victory at Pebble Beach.
比赛期间禁止在球场上闲逛，所以我们的父亲让我们去做他肮脏的工作，希望官员们能把我们视为热情的暴发户，他们在我们的房间里贴满了大师们努力摆脱沙坑的海报，或者在圆石滩取得惊人胜利后举起奖杯的海报。
Nothing could have been farther from the truth.
事实并非如此。
No matter how hard he tried to motivate us, the members of my family refused to take even the slightest interest in what was surely the dullest game ever invented.
无论他如何努力激励我们，我的家人都拒绝对这个肯定是有史以来最无聊的游戏产生哪怕一丁点的兴趣。
We despised golf and everything that went with it, from the ridiculous tam-o'-shanters right down to the cruel spiked shoes.
我们鄙视高尔夫以及与之相关的一切，从可笑的 tam-o'-shanters 到残酷的尖刺鞋。
"Oh, Lou," my mother would whine, dressed for a cocktail party in her muted, earth-tone caftan.
“哦，卢，”我母亲会抱怨道，她穿着她那件低调的土色长袍，准备参加鸡尾酒会。
"You're not going to wear that, are you?" "What's wrong with this?" he'd ask.
“你不会穿那个，是吗？” “这有什么问题吗？”他会问。
"These pants are brand new." "New to you," she'd say.
“这条裤子是全新的。” “对你来说是新的，”她会说。
"Pimps and circus clowns have been dressing that way for years."
“皮条客和马戏团小丑多年来一直这么穿。”
We never understood how a man who took such pride in his sober, tailored suits could spend his weekends in Day-Glo pants patterned with singing tree frogs or wee kilted Scotsmen.
我们从来不明白，一个对自己朴素、剪裁得体的西装如此自豪的男人怎么会穿着印有唱歌的树蛙或苏格兰短裙图案的 Day-Glo 裤子来度过周末。
You needed sunglasses in order to open his closet door, what with all the candy-colored sweaters, aggressive madras sports coats, and painfully bright polo shirts all screaming for attention.
你需要戴上墨镜才能打开他的衣柜门，所有糖果色的毛衣、咄咄逼人的马德拉斯运动外套和亮得令人痛苦的马球衫都在尖叫着吸引注意力。
"I don't feel so well," Lisa whispered to my father, as we marched from the sand trap to the putting green of the eighth hole.
“我感觉不太舒服，”当我们从沙坑走向第八洞的果岭时，丽莎低声对父亲说道。
"I really think we need to leave."
“我真的认为我们需要离开。”
My father ignored her.
我父亲不理睬她。
"If Trevino bogeys this hole, he's screwed.
“如果特维诺在这个洞吞下柏忌，他就完蛋了。
That last bunker shot pinned his ass right to the wall.
最后一次沙坑击球把他的屁股钉在了墙上。
Did you see his backswing?" "I'm concerned right now about my back," Lisa said.
你看到他的后摆了吗？” “我现在很担心我的背部，”丽莎说。
"It's aching, and I want to go home and lie down." "We'll be just another minute," my father said.
“好痛，我想回家躺一会。” “我们再等一分钟，”我父亲说。
He fingered the collection of tees in his pocket.
他用手指抚摸着口袋里的一系列T恤。
"The problem with you kids is that you're not paying enough attention to the game.
“你们孩子们的问题在于你们对比赛没有给予足够的关注。
First thing tomorrow morning, I'm signing you up for some more lessons.
明天早上第一件事，我就给你报名参加更多的课程。
Then you'll see what I'm talking about.
然后你就会明白我在说什么。
Jesus, this game is just so exciting, you won't be able to stand it."
天哪，这场比赛太令人兴奋了，你会受不了的。”
We had serious doubts that it was exciting, but he was right when he said we wouldn't be able to stand it.
我们严重怀疑这是否令人兴奋，但当他说我们无法忍受时，他是对的。
The driving range, the putt-putt courses-- he just didn't get it.
练习场、推杆课程——他就是不明白。
We didn't want advice on our swing.
我们不需要关于挥杆的建议。
We only wanted to be left alone to practice witchcraft, or deface fashion dolls, or sit in the privacy of our rooms, fantasizing about anything other than golf.
我们只想独自一人练习巫术，或者毁坏时尚娃娃，或者坐在我们房间的私密空间里，幻想着除了高尔夫之外的任何事情。
98 degrees on the second hole, and we'd crumpled to the green, listening as children our own age shouted and splashed in the country club pool.
第二洞的角度为 98 度，我们倒在果岭上，听着与我们同龄的孩子们在乡村俱乐部的泳池里大喊大叫、戏水嬉戏。
The tournament dragged on.
比赛一拖再拖。
And by the time we reached the 14th hole, Lisa had begun to bleed, the rust-colored spot visible on her white culottes.
当我们到达第 14 洞时，丽莎已经开始流血，她白色裙裤上的铁锈色斑点清晰可见。
She was close to tears, sunburned and frightened when she whispered something into my father's ear.
当她在我父亲耳边低声说了些什么时，她几乎要哭了，被晒伤了，而且很害怕。
"We'll just go get one of the gals," he said.
“我们去找其中一个女孩，”他说。
"They'll take care of you." He turned to a handsome, white-haired woman, wearing a lime green visor in a skirt patterned with grinning pandas.
“他们会照顾你的。”他转向一位英俊的白发女子，她戴着柠檬绿的遮阳帽，裙子上印着咧着嘴笑的熊猫图案。
"Hey, sweetheart, I'm wondering if you could help me out with a personal problem."
“嘿，亲爱的，我想知道你是否能帮我解决一个个人问题。”
Like my father, this woman had followed these players from hole to hole, taking note of their every move.
和我父亲一样，这位女士也跟着这些球员从一个洞到另一个洞，记录他们的一举一动。
She had come out that day to bask in the glow of the masters.
那天她出来是为了沐浴大师的光芒。
And now a strange man was asking her to accompany his daughter to the clubhouse and outfit her with a sanitary napkin.
现在，一个陌生男人让她陪女儿去会所，给她戴上卫生巾。
The woman nodded her head and, taking my sister's hand, reluctantly led her towards a distant cluster of buildings.
女人点点头，拉着妹妹的手，恋恋不舍地领着她走向远处的一处建筑群。
I didn't understand the problem, but very much wanted to join them, thinking perhaps we might talk this person into giving us a ride home, away from this grinding tedium and the fierce, relentless sun.
我不明白这个问题，但非常想加入他们，想也许我们可以说服这个人载我们回家，远离这令人痛苦的单调和猛烈无情的阳光。
With Lisa gone, it would become my sole responsibility to fetch the splintered golf tees and pester the contestants for their autographs.
丽莎走了之后，我就全权负责取回破碎的高尔夫球座并纠缠参赛者索要签名。
"Lou," I would say, holding out my father's scorecard.
“卢，”我会说，并拿出父亲的记分卡。
"My name is Lou."
“我叫卢。”
The game finally over, we returned to the parking lot to find Lisa stretched out on the backseat of the Porsche, her face and lap covered with golf towels.
比赛终于结束了，我们回到停车场，发现丽莎躺在保时捷的后座上，她的脸和腿上都盖着高尔夫球毛巾。
"Don't say it," she threatened.
“别说出来，”她威胁道。
"Whatever it is, I don't want to hear it." "All I was gonna do was ask you to take your lousy feet off the car," my father said.
“不管是什么，我都不想听。” “我要做的就是请你把你那双臭脚从车上拿开，”我父亲说。
"Yeah?
“是吗？
Well, why don't you just go [BLEEP] yourself?"
好吧，你为什么不自己去[BLEEP]呢？”
The moment she said it, Lisa bolted upright as if there still might be time to catch the word between her teeth before it reached our father's ears.
丽莎一说完，就猛地站了起来，仿佛还有时间用牙齿咬住这句话，以免这句话传到父亲的耳朵里。
None of us had ever spoken to him that way.
我们从来没有人这样跟他说过话。
And now he would have no choice but to kill her.
现在他别无选择，只能杀了她。
Some unprecedented threshold had been passed.
一些前所未有的门槛已经被跨过了。
And even the crickets stopped their singing, stunned into silence by the word which hung in the air like a cloud of spent gunpowder.
就连蟋蟀也停止了歌唱，被这个像一团用过的火药一样悬在空中的词惊得鸦雀无声。
My father sighed and shook his head in disappointment.
父亲叹了口气，失望地摇摇头。
This was the same way he reacted to my mother when anger and frustration caused her to forget herself.
这与当我母亲的愤怒和沮丧导致她忘记自己时他对她的反应是一样的。
Lisa was not a daughter now, but just another woman unable to control her wildly shifting emotions.
丽莎现在不再是一个女儿，而只是另一个无法控制自己剧烈变化的情绪的女人。
"Don't mind her," he said, wiping a thin coat of pollen off the windshield.
“别管她，”他一边说，一边擦去挡风玻璃上薄薄的一层花粉。
"She's just having lady problems."
“她只是遇到了女士问题。”
Throughout the years, our father has continued his campaign to interest us in the sport of golf.
多年来，我们的父亲一直致力于让我们对高尔夫运动产生兴趣。
When Gretchen, Amy, and Tiffany rejected his advances, he placed his hopes in our brother Paul, who found the sprawling greens an excellent place to enjoy a hit of acid and overturn the golf carts he stole from the parking lot beside the pro shop.
当格雷琴、艾米和蒂芙尼拒绝了他的求爱时，他把希望寄托在我们的兄弟保罗身上，保罗发现广阔的果岭是享受酸感并推翻他从专卖店旁边停车场偷来的高尔夫球车的绝佳场所。
He bought a wide-screen TV, an enormous model the size of an industrial-sized washing machine, and uses it only to watch and record his beloved tournaments.
他买了一台宽屏电视，尺寸像工业洗衣机一样大，只用它来观看和录制他喜爱的比赛。
The top of the set is stacked high with videocassettes marked "'94 PGA" and "'89 US Open-- Unbelievable."
布景的顶部高高地堆放着标有“'94 PGA”和“'89 US Open——难以置信”的录像带。
Before our mother died, she put together a videotape she thought Lisa might enjoy.
我们的母亲去世前，整理了一盘她认为丽莎可能会喜欢的录像带。
The two of them had spent a great deal of time in the kitchen, drinking wine and watching old movies on the black-and-white portable television that sat beside the sink.
两人在厨房里待了很长时间，一边喝着酒，一边用水槽旁的黑白便携式电视看老电影。
These were just a few favorites my mother had recorded.
这些只是我母亲录制的一些最喜欢的。
"No big deal," she'd said, "just a little something to watch one day when you're bored."
“没什么大不了的，”她说，“只是有一天无聊的时候看点东西而已。”
A few weeks after the funeral, Lisa searched my parents' house for the tape, finding it on the downstairs bar beside my father's chair.
葬礼几周后，丽莎在我父母的房子里寻找那盘磁带，在楼下的酒吧里我父亲的椅子旁边找到了它。
She carried the cassette home, but found she needed a bit more time before watching it.
她把磁带带回家，但发现她需要更多时间才能观看。
For Lisa, these movies would recall private times, just her and her mother perched on stools and reeling off the names of each actor as they appeared on the screen.
对于丽莎来说，这些电影会让人回想起私人时光，只有她和她的母亲坐在凳子上，念出屏幕上出现的每个演员的名字。
These memories would be a gift that Lisa preferred to savor before opening.
这些回忆将是丽莎在打开之前更愿意细细品味的一份礼物。
She waited until the initial grief had passed and then, settling onto her sofa with a tray of snacks, she slipped in the tape, delighted to find that it began with Double Indemnity.
她等到最初的悲伤过去，然后带着一盘零食坐在沙发上，把磁带放进去，很高兴地发现它是从《双重赔偿》开始的。
The opening credits were rolling when suddenly the video skipped and shifted to color.
片头字幕正在滚动，突然视频跳到彩色。
It was a man squatting on his heels and peering down the shaft of his putter as though it were a rifle.
那是一个男人蹲在脚后跟上，凝视着推杆的杆身，就好像那是一支步枪。
Behind him stood a multitude of spectators shaded by tall pines, their faces tan and wrapped in concentration.
他身后站着一大群围观的观众，他们的脸庞被晒得黝黑，全神贯注。
"Greg Norman's bogeyed all three par-fives," the announcer whispered.
“格雷格·诺曼的三个五杆洞全部吞下柏忌，”播音员低声说道。
"But if he eagles here on the 15th, he's still got a shot at the Masters."
“但如果他在15号这里打出老鹰，他仍然有机会参加大师赛。”
David Sedaris's story "Women's Open" is from his new book of autobiographical stories called Naked.
大卫·塞达里斯的故事《女子公开赛》取自他的新自传体故事书《裸体》。
His latest play opens as part of the Lincoln Center Festival July 8.
他的最新作品将在 7 月 8 日林肯中心艺术节上演。
It's called Incident at Cobbler's Knob.
这就是所谓的“鞋匠旋钮事件”。
Well, our program was produced today by Nancy Updike and myself with Alix Spiegel and Julie Snyder.
嗯，我们今天的节目是由南希·厄普代克和我、阿利克斯·斯皮格尔和朱莉·斯奈德共同制作的。
Contributing editors Sarah Vowell, Jack Hitt, Margy Rochlin, and Paul Tough.
特约编辑 Sarah Vowell、Jack Hitt、Margy Rochlin 和 Paul Tough。
Musical help today from John Connors and Sarah Vowell.
今天约翰·康纳斯和莎拉·沃威尔提供音乐帮助。
Original musical scoring during Marvin Tate's story by LeRoy Bach and C.J.
勒罗伊·巴赫 (LeRoy Bach) 和 C.J. 在马文·泰特 (Marvin Tate) 的故事中创作的原创音乐。
Bani.
巴尼。
To buy a cassette of this program, call us at WBEZ here in Chicago, 312-832-3380.
要购买该节目的磁带，请致电芝加哥的 WBEZ，电话：312-832-3380。
Our email address, [email protected] .
我们的电子邮件地址，[电子邮件受保护]。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Torey Malatia, who turned to me after our first time on the air and said--
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理由 Torey Malatia 负责监督，他在我们第一次播出后转向我说——
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。