62: Something for Nothing - This American Life
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Lottery Players Boy From PRI, Public Radio International.
来自国际公共广播电台 PRI 的彩票玩家男孩。
Radio International.
国际广播电台。
Man Radio International.
国际男子广播电台。
One more time.
再一次。
Ira Glass It was one of those moments that play on your sense of hope.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass） 这是激发你希望感的时刻之一。
You start to picture it, easy money.
你开始想象，轻松赚钱。
The story went like this.
故事是这样的。
Al's granddaughter had this dream where she saw the devil.
艾尔的孙女做了一个梦，她看到了魔鬼。
He looked it up for her in a book of lottery numbers that he got in New Orleans.
他在新奥尔良得到的一本彩票号码簿上为她查到了这个号码。
The book said if you dream of the devil, play the number 171.
书上说，如果你梦见魔鬼，就打171号。
Then he saw a pill that had rolled onto the floor.
然后他看到一颗药丸滚到了地板上。
On the pill was written a number, 771.
药丸上写着一个数字：771。
And it wasn't that he really believed that he was going to win.
并不是说他真的相信自己会赢。
But he thought if he doesn't play and the number comes up, he'd feel like an idiot.
但他认为，如果他不参加比赛而数字出现了，他会觉得自己像个白痴。
And I want 771.
我想要771。
Give me $30 straight on it.
直接给我30美元。
Al buys 30 $1-tickets and then boxes it for $2.
Al 购买了 30 张 1 美元的门票，然后以 2 美元的价格装箱。
The place he goes, Hannah's Finer Foods & Liquors, a little store on 87th Street here in Chicago in a well-kept, working-class, black neighborhood, sells more lottery tickets than any location in the city.
他去的地方是 Hannah's Finer Foods & Liquors，这是芝加哥第 87 街一个维护良好的工人阶级黑人社区的一家小商店，售出的彩票比该市任何地方都多。
Al plays every day.
艾尔每天都打球。
So do you think it's possible to get something for nothing?
那么你认为有可能不劳而获吗？
Hell, yeah.
地狱，是的。
Yeah, you can get something for nothing once in a while.
是的，偶尔你可以不劳而获一些东西。
Very few people.
人很少。
Not everybody.
不是每个人。
How much do you think you invest in the lottery every year?
您认为您每年在彩票上的投资是多少？
Oh, I don't know.
哦，我不知道。
Anywhere from $3,000 to $4,000, maybe $5,000 in a year's time.
从 3,000 美元到 4,000 美元不等，一年后可能达到 5,000 美元。
No, $3,000 or $4,000 a year is what you're paying to the lottery?
不，你每年花 3,000 美元或 4,000 美元买彩票？
$3,000 or $4,000 a year.
每年 3,000 美元或 4,000 美元。
That's not something for nothing.
这不是无缘无故的事。
[LAUGHTER] Al But if you hit it-- if you hit it--
[笑声]艾尔但是如果你击中它——如果你击中它——
This is the thing about something for nothing schemes.
这就是不劳而获的计划的事情。
Once you get the details, once you get involved, it's not something for nothing.
一旦了解了细节，一旦参与其中，就不是白做的事了。
You pay.
你付钱。
One way or another, you pay.
无论怎样，你都要付钱。
And we all know that.
我们都知道这一点。
But even though we all know that, we just want to believe.
但即使我们都知道这一点，我们只是愿意相信。
A delivery guy named Leo stands in line in his delivery uniform.
一位名叫利奥（Leo）的送货员穿着送货制服在排队。
He spends $40 to $50 a week on the lottery.
他每周花 40 到 50 美元买彩票。
But he tells me, he believes the lottery is fixed.
但他告诉我，他相信彩票是固定的。
Fixed.
固定的。
The million dollar winners, he says, they're usually white people.
他说，百万美元的获奖者通常是白人。
Never blacks.
从来不黑人。
He notices.
他注意到了。
They tell you what suburb it came from.
他们会告诉你它来自哪个郊区。
And sometime they show the people on TV.
有时他们会在电视上向人们展示。
And like you say, this is the largest lottery place in Chicago.
就像你说的，这是芝加哥最大的彩票场所。
If they know this is the largest lottery place in Chicago, they ought to let some of these people win here once in a while.
如果他们知道这是芝加哥最大的彩票场，他们就应该让这些人偶尔在这里中奖。
That's fair.
这很公平。
I know, but if you really don't think you can win, why would you play at all here?
我知道，但如果你真的认为自己赢不了，那你为什么还要在这里比赛呢？
Well, you try anyway.
好吧，你还是试试吧。
I keep playing.
我继续玩。
Maybe, like I say, once in a while, they let somebody win here.
也许，就像我说的，他们偶尔会让某人在这里获胜。
Maybe I'll be one of 'em.
也许我会成为他们中的一员。
This is just how strong our hope runs.
我们的希望就是如此强烈。
Leo believes the lottery is fixed so black people cannot win.
利奥认为彩票是固定的，所以黑人不可能中奖。
And he still plays every day.
而且他仍然每天都打球。
Well, from WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
嗯，来自 WBEZ 芝加哥，这是《This American Life》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today on our program, the dream of something for nothing.
今天在我们的节目中，不劳而获的梦想。
Act One, Hands on a Hardbody.
第一幕，动手做硬体。
A get-rich-quick scheme in Texas involving two dozen people, three nights without sleep, and a $15,000 Hardbody truck.
德克萨斯州的一项快速致富计划涉及二十几个人，连续三个晚上不睡觉，以及一辆价值 15,000 美元的 Hardbody 卡车。
Act Two, Guinea Pig Zero.
第二幕，零号豚鼠。
A guy who makes his living by selling his body or, actually, renting his body to medical science, drug studies.
一个以出卖身体为生的人，或者实际上是将身体出租给医学、药物研究的人。
Act Three, Tao of the Dumpster.
第三幕，垃圾箱之道。
How an everyday dad quit his 9-to-5 and decided to put food on the family table by diving into grocery store dumpsters for it.
一位每天的父亲如何放弃朝九晚五的工作，并决定潜入杂货店的垃圾箱里寻找食物，以备家庭餐桌上的食物。
And how this something-for-nothing scheme affected his marriage.
以及这个不劳而获的计划如何影响了他的婚姻。
Act Four, somebody who actually does strike it rich and gets something for nothing, and how it drives him nuts.
第四幕，一个真正暴富并不劳而获的人，以及这如何让他发疯。
Stay with us here, at the only place you really can get something for nothing, listening to the radio.
留在我们这里，在唯一一个您真正可以不劳而获的地方，听广播。
Act One, Hands on a Hardbody.
第一幕，动手做硬体。
Well, every year a Nissan dealership in Longview, Texas, sponsors this contest.
每年，德克萨斯州朗维尤的日产经销商都会赞助这项比赛。
24 people stand around a $15,000 Hardbody pickup truck.
24 个人站在一辆价值 15,000 美元的 Hardbody 皮卡周围。
When the starting whistle blows, each person puts one hand on the truck.
当发令哨吹响时，每个人都将一只手放在卡车上。
They wear white gloves so as not to mess up the paint job.
他们戴着白手套，以免弄乱油漆工作。
And they stand there and stand there until, one by one, people get tired, they drop away.
他们站在那里，站在那里，直到人们一一感到疲倦，他们就离开了。
And finally, one person is left standing.
最后，只剩下一个人站着。
That person gets to keep the truck.
那个人可以保留卡车。
How tough could this be?
这有多艰难？
Under the contest rules, you get a 5-minute break every hour and a 15-minute break every 6 hours.
根据比赛规则，每小时休息 5 分钟，每 6 小时休息 15 分钟。
And to the contestants at first, it sounds like easy money.
起初，对于参赛者来说，这听起来很容易赚钱。
Something for nothing.
不劳而获。
I think it's gonna be easy.
我想这会很容易。
Because it's all in the mind.
因为一切都在心里。
And I have so many friends that are going to come see me.
我有很多朋友要来看我。
My boyfriend's going to come see me.
我男朋友要来看我。
My dad said he would get up every night at 12:00--
我爸爸说他每天晚上12:00起床——
I think I'll last because I'll look at it as payments.
我想我会坚持下去，因为我会把它视为付款。
That's what's gonna kill you when you buy a new vehicle.
当你购买新车时，这就是会杀了你的东西。
When I think of getting no sleep, that's gonna be painful.
当我想到无法入睡时，就会感到痛苦。
But you can get rest later.
不过你可以稍后再休息。
So that's the first thing I'll do is sell the truck.
所以我要做的第一件事就是卖掉卡车。
I have so many bills to pay off.
我有很多账单要还。
I have a car.
我有一辆车。
I want to go back to school.
我想回学校。
And I want to get braces.
我想戴牙套。
There are just so many things I want to do that I really do need the truck.
我想做的事情太多了，所以我确实需要卡车。
And I'm determined I'm going to win it.
我决心赢得胜利。
These interviews are part of a movie about this contest.
这些采访是有关本次比赛的电影的一部分。
Filmmakers Rob Bindler, Chapin Wilson, and Kevin Morse take us through the contest hour by hour.
电影制片人罗布·宾德勒、查宾·威尔逊和凯文·莫尔斯带领我们一小时一小时地了解比赛。
And over the course of the documentary, we get to know several of the contestants pretty well, especially one guy, Benny Perkins.
在纪录片的过程中，我们对几位参赛者有了很好的了解，尤其是一个人，本尼·帕金斯。
Benny had actually won the contest a few years back and had returned to try and win again the year they made their film.
事实上，本尼几年前就赢得了比赛，并在他们拍摄电影的那一年再次尝试获胜。
Benny says emphatically that this is not easy money, though it all starts simply enough.
本尼强调说，这并不是一件容易赚到的钱，尽管这一切的开始都很简单。
OK, on the first day, you're ready.
好的，第一天，你就准备好了。
You're up.
你起来了。
It's just like a normal work day.
这就像正常的工作日一样。
And you go through the day being extremely bored.
而你这一整天都非常无聊。
You're listening to the radio.
你正在听广播。
There's people going around, walking around, coming up.
有人走来走去，走来走去。
And that takes away from some of the boredom.
这消除了一些无聊。
But you're standing in one spot, and you're doing absolutely nothing.
但你却站在一处，什么也没做。
And so your mind is looking for input, anything, something.
所以你的大脑正在寻找输入，任何东西。
And everybody pretty well yacks around the truck.
每个人都围着卡车大喊大叫。
And we get to know each other.
我们开始互相了解。
The thing is this contest usually lasts for three days and nights.
问题是这个比赛通常会持续三天三夜。
Three days and nights.
三天三夜。
Or even longer.
或者甚至更长。
At some point, your problem is no longer boredom.
在某些时候，你的问题不再是无聊。
What happens is you go slowly insane.
发生的事情是你慢慢地发疯。
The mind has got to rest.
心灵必须休息。
The body can work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
身体可以每周 7 天、每天 24 小时工作。
But your mind has got to rest.
但你的头脑必须休息。
You have to have sleep.
你必须睡觉。
And when you deprive your brain of rest, then you start going slowly crazy.
当你剥夺大脑的休息时，你就会开始慢慢变得疯狂。
It's an awesome thing.
这是一件很棒的事情。
It really is.
确实如此。
And it's something that if you haven't experienced it, try it some time.
如果你还没有经历过，那就找个时间尝试一下。
Try staying up in one spot.
尝试在一个地方熬夜。
You feel like you get transported from town to town, place to place.
你感觉自己从一个城镇转移到另一个城镇，从一个地方转移到另一个地方。
You see things that aren't there.
你会看到不存在的东西。
For instance, there was one time when I thought I was at a piano bar.
例如，有一次我以为自己在一家钢琴酒吧。
And the back of the cab was actually, in my mind, the back of the piano.
在我看来，驾驶室的后部实际上是钢琴的后部。
And someone was playing it.
有人正在玩它。
I couldn't see them.
我看不见他们。
I couldn't raise up high enough to see over it, to see who was playing.
我无法站得足够高，无法看到它，也无法看到谁在玩。
And I remember standing there, looking around, and saying, "OK, I'm in a piano bar, and somebody's playing the piano.
我记得站在那里，环顾四周，然后说：“好吧，我在一家钢琴酒吧里，有人在弹钢琴。
Where's my drink?
我的饮料在哪里？
Somebody forgot to bring me a drink." And that type of thing goes and comes and goes.
有人忘记给我带饮料了。”这类事情来来去去。
It comes and goes.
它来了又走。
And you get extremely sleepy.
你会变得非常困。
And you just get numb.
你就会变得麻木。
My son was there, and he and another young man were throwing a baseball.
我儿子在那里，他和另一个年轻人正在扔棒球。
And as the baseball would arc through the air, I could see traces of it.
当棒球在空中划出弧线时，我可以看到它的痕迹。
I could see 1,000 baseballs go across the front.
我可以看到 1,000 个棒球穿过前面。
And I saw that, and I said, "Wow." I didn't see that.
我看到了，我说，“哇。”我没看到。
It wasn't real, but I saw it.
这不是真的，但我看到了。
Now there at the second day, my feet hurt.
现在已经是第二天了，我的脚很痛。
They got to hurting pretty bad.
他们伤得很厉害。
And I had complained about it.
我对此有所抱怨。
I was going to drop out.
我本来打算退学的。
Because I was really having some pain.
因为我确实有些痛苦。
Well, several hours passed.
嗯，几个小时过去了。
I hung in there.
我挂在那里。
And my feet went numb.
我的脚也麻木了。
And I said, "I don't think I can stand here now." And then I got to thinking about that while I was there and running it through my mind.
我说：“我想我现在不能站在这里了。”然后当我在那里的时候我就开始思考这个问题并在我的脑海中运行。
And I said, "Well, I don't think I like numb.
我说：“好吧，我想我不喜欢麻木。
I don't know what's going on." And so then I started working my feet around while I was standing and keeping the circulation moving.
我不知道发生了什么事。”然后我开始在站立时活动我的脚并保持血液循环。
Because that's what it was.
因为事情就是这样。
The blood was pooling in my legs.
血在我的腿上汇聚。
And I got the notion that everybody's legs was swelling up.
我感觉到每个人的腿都肿了。
Of course, they were all standing there in shorts.
当然，他们都穿着短裤站在那里。
I had on the tightest pair of blue jeans I could find.
我穿着我能找到的最紧的蓝色牛仔裤。
And I wasn't showing off.
而且我并没有炫耀。
I just wanted that extra support.
我只是想要额外的支持。
A fellow could wear support hose, but then everybody'd be calling you sissy or something on the truck.
一个人可以穿支撑软管，但卡车上的每个人都会叫你娘娘腔或其他什么。
And you'd be wanting to punch them out.
你会想把他们打倒。
Be going with that.
就这样吧。
I did.
我做到了。
I had on the tightest pair of jeans I could find.
我穿着我能找到的最紧的牛仔裤。
I love to compete.
我喜欢竞争。
I'm a competitor.
我是一个竞争对手。
And I'm also a little bit predatory.
而且我也有点掠夺性。
And to win at something like this, during the time that it's happening and afterwards, you've got to be a little mean.
为了在这样的事情上获胜，在事情发生期间和之后，你必须表现得有点刻薄。
Because there's times when people-- when you're talking to each other's head, and you're messing with each other's head.
因为有时候，当人们在互相交谈时，你们却在扰乱对方的头脑。
And there's a lot of that goes on.
还有很多这样的事情发生。
And it's mind games is what it is.
这就是心理游戏。
Head games.
头部游戏。
Be standing there and say, "Hey, man, my legs and feet are killing me." And somebody pipe up and say, "Well, hey, I'm not hurting anywhere." "Well, what are you taking?
站在那里说：“嘿，伙计，我的腿和脚都快要死了。”有人大声说道：“好吧，嘿，我哪里都没有受伤。” “嗯，你拿什么？
Cocaine?" That's what you want to say.
可卡因？”这就是你想说的。
And that's what I said back to him.
我也是这么回复他的。
I said, "Well, if you're not hurting, then you're numb.
我说：“好吧，如果你不痛，那么你就麻木了。
And you're worse off than we are.
而且你的处境比我们还要糟糕。
Because when you go numb, you don't know what's going on." Well, that messed with him, I'm sure.
因为当你变得麻木时，你不知道发生了什么。”好吧，我确信这让他很困惑。
But that's the kind of thing that goes on.
但这就是正在发生的事情。
There was one gentleman that-- I think there was three or four of us left.
有一位先生——我想我们还剩下三四个人。
And a friend of his came up to the chain and asked him what he wanted to eat on the next break.
他的一个朋友走到连锁店前，问他下次休息想吃什么。
And he turned around and says, "I don't know." And he literally did not know what he wanted to eat.
他转过身说：“我不知道。”而且他根本不知道自己想吃什么。
And I realized this.
我意识到了这一点。
And I said, "Man," I said, "this is bad.
我说，“伙计，”我说，“这很糟糕。
You don't know what you want to eat." I said, "I know exactly what I want to eat, what I'm going to eat when we come off on this next break." I said, "And you're standing here, and you don't know?" I said, "That's really bad." I said, "You're losing." I said, "You may as well quit now."
你不知道自己想吃什么。”我说：“我清楚地知道我想吃什么，下次休息时我要吃什么。”我说：“你站在这里，你还不知道吗？”我说：“那真是太糟糕了。”我说：“你输了。”我说：“你还是放弃吧。”
I said, "I know exactly what I'm gonna eat.
我说：“我很清楚我要吃什么。
I know exactly what I'm doing.
我清楚地知道我在做什么。
And I know exactly what I'm saying right now." And it just blew the guy's mind.
我很清楚我现在在说什么。”这让那家伙大吃一惊。
He couldn't deal with that.
他无法应对这个问题。
It was more than he could deal with.
这超出了他的承受能力。
And it wasn't very long after that that he dropped off.
不久之后，他就下车了。
And then when he dropped off, I turned around to Dan-- that was the guy that was with me at the end-- told him, I said, "Look," I said, "you're standing next to the devil." And I said, "And you're riding the road to hell." I said, "I'll stand here 'til you die.
然后当他下车时，我转向丹——最后和我在一起的那个人——告诉他，我说，“看，”我说，“你站在魔鬼旁边。”我说：“你正走在通往地狱的路上。”我说：“我会站在这里，直到你死。
You may as well quit now."
你还是现在就退出吧。”
The only way that I can be beaten, as far as I'm concerned, is if there was someone that had just got out of the Marine Corps.
就我而言，唯一能打败我的方法就是如果有一个刚从海军陆战队出来的人。
That person could possibly beat me.
那个人可能会打败我。
They would have the mindset for it.
他们会有这样的心态。
It's a contest, they say, of stamina.
他们说，这是一场耐力的竞赛。
But it's who can maintain their sanity the longest.
但谁能保持理智最久。
And that's what it is.
就是这样。
That's what it comes to.
事情就是这样。
Because when you go insane, you lose.
因为当你发疯的时候，你就输了。
Everybody starts feeling it the second night.
第二天晚上每个人都开始有这种感觉。
And there were several that dropped off, on up until the sun came up.
有几架飞机一直降落到太阳升起。
After the sun come up, it was a long time.
太阳升起之后，又过了很长一段时间。
The third day, it was a long time.
第三天，真是漫长的一天。
I think there was about eight of us left, five of us left the beginning of the third day.
我想我们大约剩下八个人，第三天开始时我们就离开了五个人。
It's really roomy.
真的很宽敞。
And you keep wondering, "Well, who's going to go down next?" And this is when you start getting the really big rushes.
你一直想知道，“那么，下一个倒下的是谁？”这就是你开始受到真正大的冲击的时候。
When it gets down to like five people and somebody drops off, you get this awesome exhilaration.
当人数减少到五个人并且有人离开时，你会感到无比的兴奋。
And you feel like you could jump to the moon.
你感觉自己可以跳到月球上。
It just [WHOOSH].
只是[嗖嗖]。
It comes up on you.
它出现在你身上。
You feel it all over.
你感觉一切都结束了。
And you just get the shakes.
你就会感到颤抖。
I would compare it to killing a deer the first time.
我会把它比作第一次杀死一只鹿。
The first time you kill a really big animal, it's an exhilarating thing.
第一次杀死一只真正的大型动物，是一件令人兴奋的事情。
You get so excited.
你变得如此兴奋。
And you feel absolutely, totally human.
你会感觉自己完全是一个人。
You feel it.
你感觉到了。
And at the same time, you feel really sad for this person.
同时，你又为这个人感到非常难过。
And you feel sad for them, you feel sad for their family.
你为他们感到悲伤，为他们的家人感到悲伤。
Because they've been up there all this time, and they lost.
因为他们一直都在上面，但他们输了。
They don't get nothing.
他们什么也得不到。
It's sad.
很伤心。
You want to cry.
你想哭。
But at the same time, you're pumped up.
但与此同时，你也很兴奋。
When it gets down to the last two, that's when it gets really tough.
当事情到了最后两点的时候，事情就变得非常艰难了。
Because he's got most of his friends and family there.
因为他的大部分朋友和家人都在那里。
Most of your friends and family are there.
你的大多数朋友和家人都在那里。
And then you've got fans, people that, by this time, they've picked out who they want to win.
然后你就有了粉丝，到了这个时候，他们已经选择了他们想要赢得的人。
And everybody's rooting for somebody.
每个人都在支持某人。
And if you look over here into the friends and family and fans of this other person, they're looking at you like, "OK, you need to quit." Or if you're looking better than this other person, they're really upset with you.
如果你看看这个人的朋友、家人和粉丝，他们会看着你，就像是，“好吧，你需要退出。”或者如果你看起来比其他人更好，他们真的很生你的气。
And you can see it.
你可以看到它。
And it deals with you.
它与你有关。
It really works on you.
它确实对你有效。
And you don't like it.
而你不喜欢它。
You say, "Hey, man, I don't deserve that." And then you get to thinking about, "Well, hey, all these people are up here.
你说：“嘿，伙计，我不值得这样。”然后你开始思考，“好吧，嘿，所有这些人都在这里。
And don't they realize that we're suffering, that we're hurting?" And you feel like they're bloodthirsty in a way.
难道他们没有意识到我们正在受苦、正在受伤吗？”你会觉得他们在某种程度上是嗜血的。
They're there to see this spectacle.
他们是来观看这一奇观的。
And it seems so absurd, very absurd at the time.
这在当时看来是非常荒唐、非常荒唐的。
There was a gentleman that was standing to my right.
有一位绅士站在我的右边。
And he really needed to win the truck.
他真的需要赢得卡车。
I would say he needed to win it more than I did.
我想说他比我更需要赢得胜利。
And I had told him-- during the process we had become close friends-- and I had told him, I said, "If it comes down to just you and me," I said, "I'll lift my hand up, and let you have this truck because you need it.
我告诉他——在这个过程中我们成为了亲密的朋友——我告诉他，我说，“如果只有你和我，”我说，“我会举起手，让你拥有这辆卡车，因为你需要它。
You need it more than I do."
你比我更需要它。”
And when he started losing it, he raised his hands up and he took his gloves off.
当他开始失去它时，他举起双手并脱下了手套。
You have to wear gloves, cotton gloves.
一定要戴手套，棉手套。
He just threw them over there.
他只是把它们扔在那里。
And he's sitting there, rubbing his hands like this, looking at them.
他坐在那里，这样搓着双手，看着它们。
And it was this hand.
而就是这只手。
I grab it, and I slap it down on the truck.
我抓住它，把它摔到卡车上。
And I said, "Man, what are you doing?
我说：“伙计，你在做什么？
Have you lost your mind?
你失去理智了吗？
What's going on?
发生什么事了？
You're supposed to stand here with me 'til the end.
你应该和我一起站在这里直到最后。
You better stay with me." And he snapped out of it.
你最好留在我身边。”他猛然摆脱了困境。
Because he was losing his mind.
因为他正在失去理智。
He saw something on his hands or felt something that he just didn't like.
他在手上看到了一些东西，或者感觉到了一些他不喜欢的东西。
And his little wife and family were standing over there.
而他的小妻子和家人就站在那边。
And they saw what I'd done.
他们看到了我所做的事情。
And they thanked me.
他们感谢我。
But he went off.
但他还是走了。
On the next break, we all took off, sat down in our various spots.
下一次休息时，我们都出发了，在不同的位置坐下。
And when I came back to the truck, he didn't get back up.
当我回到卡车旁时，他没有站起来。
You experience a great camaraderie with these people because they have been through this.
你会与这些人建立起深厚的友情，因为他们都经历过这些。
They've been there.
他们去过那里。
They know what it's like.
他们知道那是什么样子。
And it's like the guys that come back from the space program.
就像从太空计划回来的人一样。
The Right Stuff.
正确的东西。
They've got a camaraderie that they share.
他们有共同的友情。
It's a closeness that nobody else can really understand.
这是一种旁人无法真正理解的亲密。
Because they haven't been in space.
因为他们没有去过太空。
After I won this truck, my self-esteem and my self-worth went through the roof.
当我赢得这辆卡车后，我的自尊心和自我价值感达到了顶峰。
There was times I felt that I couldn't control it.
有时候我觉得自己无法控制。
I felt as though, at times, I was extremely conceited.
我有时觉得自己非常自负。
And I've had a little trouble dealing with that.
我在处理这个问题时遇到了一些麻烦。
I remember sitting in my front stoop, right in front of my door.
我记得坐在门前的门廊上。
And I'd just sit there and look at it.
我只是坐在那里看着它。
And I'd spend two or three hours just sitting there, looking at it in total disbelief that, wow.
我会花两三个小时坐在那里，完全难以置信地看着它，哇。
I really did that.
我确实这么做了。
I really won that truck.
我真的赢了那辆卡车。
I really went through that.
我真的经历过那件事。
I'll drive it 'til the wheels fall off, then glue 'em back on, and drive it some more.
我会开它直到轮子掉下来，然后把它们粘回去，然后继续开。
If I have to clone a new engine in it, I will.
如果我必须在其中克隆一个新引擎，我会的。
Until it just falls apart and it won't drive no more, that's when I'll set it up.
直到它完全崩溃并且无法再行驶时，我才会对其进行设置。
And I'm gonna set it up out at the farm.
我要把它安置在农场。
I'm not gonna haul it off to an iron yard somewhere that'll scrap it.
我不会把它拖到某个地方的铁场，那样会报废它。
It doesn't deserve that.
这是不值得的。
Later on, I experienced some awesome cases of deja vu when I would go to sleep and dream that I was back on the truck.
后来，当我睡觉时梦见自己又回到了卡车上，我经历了一些令人敬畏的似曾相识的情况。
And I couldn't leave.
我无法离开。
And I would say it was probably three or four months afterwards that my feet and legs recovered.
我想说大概三四个月后我的脚和腿就恢复了。
At night, after I'd go to bed, my feet would tickle.
晚上睡觉后，脚会痒。
Benny Perkins was interviewed for the film Hands on a Hard Body, which shows many people, not just Benny, going through this ordeal.
本尼·帕金斯接受了电影《Hands on a Hard Body》的采访，这部电影展示了许多人，而不仅仅是本尼，正在经历这种磨难。
It's really something.
真的是很了不起。
And in the year since we first broadcast this story, the film has come out on DVD.
自从我们第一次播出这个故事的那一年，这部电影就以 DVD 形式发行了。
The actual contest ended in 2005.
实际比赛于2005年结束。
[MUSIC - "SIX DAYS ON THE ROAD" BY DAVE DUDLEY]
[音乐 - 戴夫·达德利的《路上的六天》]
Act Two, Guinea Pig Zero.
第二幕，零号豚鼠。
Well, a few years ago, Bob Helms noticed how many of his friends were making money by volunteering for medical experiments.
几年前，鲍勃·赫尔姆斯注意到他的许多朋友通过志愿参加医学实验来赚钱。
In a good medical study, they put you up for 10 days or so with 8 or 10 other guinea pigs.
在一项良好的医学研究中，他们会让你和 8 到 10 只其他豚鼠一起呆 10 天左右。
They feed you.
他们喂你。
They rent videos for you.
他们为您租用视频。
You can read or write all day.
您可以整天阅读或写作。
Of course, they give you an experimental drug, take your blood.
当然，他们会给你一种实验药物，抽取你的血液。
Typical pay for a good study like this?
像这样的良好学习的典型报酬是多少？
$200 a day.
每天 200 美元。
$200 a day.
每天 200 美元。
Bob Helms' zine about this, it's called Guinea Pig Zero, rates various medical facilities for best food, staff attitude, best money, and all sorts of stuff like that.
鲍勃·赫尔姆斯 (Bob Helms) 的杂志《零豚鼠》对各种医疗机构的最佳食物、员工态度、最佳资金以及诸如此类的东西进行了评级。
He says that there is basically a community of people who do this.
他说基本上有一个这样做的人社区。
You're not gonna get rich.
你不会变得富有。
You could do it for a living if your expenses are very low.
如果你的开支非常低，你可以以此谋生。
And you can do it for a living if you have another income.
如果你有其他收入，你就可以以此谋生。
Or some people will actually book them very close together, so that they're doing them more often than they're telling the doctors that they're doing them.
或者有些人实际上会非常接近地预订它们，因此他们做这些事情的频率比他们告诉医生他们正在做的频率更高。
It's a little bit disgusting to do it too many times, I think.
我觉得重复太多次有点恶心。
When do you cross the line into disgusting?
你什么时候越过恶心的界限？
Disgusting is when you're doing something very painful and getting very little money in return.
令人厌恶的是当你做一些非常痛苦的事情却只得到很少的钱时。
Like the spinal tap studies.
就像脊椎穿刺研究一样。
They have to train people how to do spinal taps.
他们必须培训人们如何进行脊椎穿刺。
They're actually paying you $100 to take this spinal tap.
他们实际上付给你 100 美元来进行脊椎穿刺。
This trainee drains the fluid out of your spinal cord.
这名受训者将脊髓中的液体排出。
And sometimes you walk away half paralyzed, it's leaking, and things like this.
有时你会半瘫痪地走开，漏水，诸如此类的事情。
This is disgusting.
这太恶心了。
And I just don't want to-- I never go near anything like that.
我只是不想——我从不靠近那样的东西。
The most painful and uncomfortable one I've ever done was actually the behavior of my stomach while a radioactively-traced egg sandwich was disintegrating.
我做过的最痛苦和最不舒服的事情实际上是当放射性示踪的鸡蛋三明治分解时我的胃的反应。
And they were taking photographs of my stomach from a gamma counter.
他们正在用伽玛计数器给我的胃拍照。
And I had a tube down my nose into my intestine and a catheter in my arm.
我的鼻子里插了一根管子进入我的肠道，手臂上插着一根导管。
And I had to lay very, very, very still for about eight hours at a time.
我必须一动不动地躺着，每次大约八个小时。
So that was a very uncomfortable deal.
所以这是一个非常不舒服的交易。
Compare yourself to other people who hire out their bodies.
将自己与其他出租身体的人进行比较。
Well, I sometimes think of it in comparison to, say, an art model, a nude model who models for art classes or artists.
嗯，我有时会把它比作艺术模特，为艺术课程或艺术家做模特的裸体模特。
In a limited way, it's similar.
在有限的方面，它是相似的。
You also could be compared to a sex trade worker, either a prostitute or an erotic dancer.
您也可以与性交易工作者进行比较，无论是妓女还是色情舞者。
Let's go through a hierarchy of different people who sell their bodies, rent their bodies.
让我们看一下出卖身体、出租身体的不同人的等级制度。
Well, on the top of the heap would be a professional athlete.
好吧，最顶尖的将是一名职业运动员。
But of course, that takes a very intense concentration.
但当然，这需要非常集中的注意力。
And it's different in a lot of ways.
它在很多方面都有所不同。
It's different in a million ways.
它有一百万个不同的地方。
So the next one down from athlete would be?
那么下一位被淘汰的运动员会是什么呢？
Would be a very highly-paid fashion model.
将是一个非常高薪的时装模特。
At the bottom would be probably a prostitute doing very dangerous and extremely unpleasant work for money.
最底层的可能是一名妓女，为了金钱而从事非常危险且极其令人不愉快的工作。
Guinea pig would probably be somewhere in the lower half, not in the middle or the upper half.
豚鼠可能会在下半部的某个地方，而不是在中半部或上半部。
You're saying below fashion model but above prostitute.
你是说低于时装模特但高于妓女。
Above nude dancer?
上面是裸体舞者吗？
Below nude dancer?
下面是裸体舞者？
Well, pay-wise, it's probably below nude dancer.
好吧，就报酬而言，它可能低于裸体舞者。
It's probably well below nude dancer.
它可能远低于裸体舞者。
But as far as the aggravation and the unpleasant interactions with people that one would need to go through, it's probably above, a Guinea pig being less stressful and less of a weird pain in the ass to do.
但就一个人需要经历的恼怒和与人的不愉快的互动而言，它可能是上面的，豚鼠的压力较小，也没有那么奇怪的痛苦。
How would you compare this to, say, a job working for minimum wage, a McDonald's job, where, essentially, you're renting yourself out for a fee?
你如何将其与拿最低工资的工作、麦当劳的工作进行比较，本质上，你是在收取费用出租自己？
It's much, much, much better.
好多了，好多了。
Ira Glass Explain how.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）解释一下如何做。
A fast food restaurant job, you're committed to eight hours every day or whatever number of hours.
在快餐店工作，你必须每天工作八小时或任意时间。
Say, eight hours every day.
比如说，每天八小时。
So that every day has got this gigantic hole in it that you can't do anything else.
所以每一天都会有一个巨大的漏洞，你无法做任何其他事情。
And all of that time, you're working hard.
一直以来，你都在努力工作。
And you're getting very little, very, very little in return.
而你得到的回报却非常非常少。
That's not really enough for a day.
一天的时间实在是不够。
A person should get more than that for a day's work.
一个人一天的工作应该得到比这更多的东西。
Yes.
是的。
Ideally, that's all it is.
理想情况下，仅此而已。
It's easy money.
这钱很容易赚。
But there's a danger in thinking about it that way too much.
但这样想太多是有危险的。
Because one should always understand that there is always a risk.
因为人们应该始终明白，风险总是存在的。
It may be a very, very small risk.
这可能是一个非常非常小的风险。
It may be a really great risk that you're taking.
您所冒的风险可能非常大。
And I think one of the particular strong risks is in doing psychiatric drugs.
我认为特别强烈的风险之一是服用精神科药物。
I know from reading Guinea Pigs, you do not do studies with psychoactive drugs.
我从《豚鼠》中知道，你不会用精神活性药物进行研究。
You call the people who do that-- you have a word for them, a phrase for them.
你称呼那些这样做的人——你有一个词来形容他们，有一个短语来形容他们。
The phrase is "Brain Sluts." It's more harsh than most guinea pigs would use.
这句话是“大脑荡妇”。它比大多数豚鼠使用的更严厉。
It's disgusting because they're becoming retarded for money.
这很恶心，因为他们为了钱而变得迟钝。
I'm just very sensitive about the mind.
我只是对心灵非常敏感。
I personally don't lay it out for rent.
我个人不会把它出租。
Is your main experience of doing this just that it's boring?
您这样做的主要感受是它很无聊吗？
Is that the main downside of the whole thing?
这是整个事情的主要缺点吗？
It can get pretty boring sometimes.
有时会变得很无聊。
If it's a very long study, you start to feel like a caged animal.
如果这是一项很长时间的研究，你就会开始感觉自己像一只笼中的动物。
It's gets very aggravating.
这变得非常令人恼火。
And you start to feel like you're in a fish tank.
你开始感觉自己就像在鱼缸里一样。
Well, you are.
嗯，你是。
Bob Helms Yep.
鲍勃·赫尔姆斯 是的。
You sure are.
你当然是。
You're under a microscope.
你在显微镜下。
When people describe a really bad job, the thing they say is, "My boss, he's just on me all the time.
当人们描述一份非常糟糕的工作时，他们会说：“我的老板，他总是对我指手画脚。
He's just watching me all the time.
他一直都在看着我。
I can't get him out of my business." And that's the premise of this job.
我不能让他离开我的生意。”这就是这项工作的前提。
Yep.
是的。
That's it exactly.
正是如此。
Ira Glass And yet, somehow, you feel a sense of freedom when you're doing it?
Ira Glass：然而，不知何故，当你这样做时，你会感到一种自由感吗？
Since we first ran this story, Bob Helms has stopped publishing Guinea Pig Zero and has left the world of drug testing.
自从我们第一次报道这个故事以来，鲍勃·赫尔姆斯已经停止出版零号豚鼠，并离开了药物测试的世界。
He has released a collection of stories from his zine called Guinea Pig Zero: An Anthology of the Journal for Human Research Subjects.
他发布了杂志中的故事集，名为《零号豚鼠：人类研究主题杂志选集》。
[MUSIC - "RUN ANOTHER TEST ON ME" BY KAIA]
[音乐 - KAIA 的“对我进行另一次测试”]
Coming up, two people who succeed at getting something for nothing, big time, and the consequences.
即将到来的是，两个人不劳而获、大获成功，以及后果。
That's in a minute when our program continues.
一会儿我们的节目就继续了。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme, bring you a wide variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，我们的节目每周都会选择一个主题，为您带来有关该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's show, Something for Nothing.
今天的节目是《无为而行》。
Stories of people who try to make easy money and what happens when they try.
那些试图轻松赚钱的人的故事以及他们尝试时会发生什么。
As everybody knows, you usually pay a price, some price.
众所周知，你通常要付出代价，一定的代价。
We've arrived at Act Three of our program, Tao of the Dumpster.
我们已经到了节目的第三幕“垃圾箱之道”。
This is the story of Dirk Jamison's dad, a man who decided to seek something for nothing, mostly for his own pleasure, mostly for his own self-interest.
这是德克·贾米森父亲的故事，他决定不劳而获，主要是为了自己的快乐，主要是为了自己的利益。
But one thing that's interesting about this is that one consequence of him doing it is that he ends up a better dad, arguably, arguably.
但有趣的是，他这样做的一个后果是，他最终成为了一个更好的父亲，可以说，可以说。
In fact, the family does argue about it.
事实上，家人确实为此争论过。
Dad wasn't always in the trash.
爸爸并不总是在垃圾桶里。
But by 1976, life had gone into an ugly holding pattern and nothing was adding up.
但到了 1976 年，生活陷入了一种丑陋的停滞状态，一切都没有进展。
He was counting weeks like he used to count days.
他像过去数天一样数着周数。
To Dad, my mother was a pining walrus wrapped in polyester who couldn't take a single sentence at face value.
对爸爸来说，我的母亲是一头裹着涤纶的、憔悴的海象，一句话也听不懂。
If he said two words, she heard five or six.
如果他说两个词，她就会听到五六个词。
And they scalded her guts.
他们烫伤了她的内脏。
He once gave her a soap-on-a-rope in the shape of an aspirin because she swallowed handfuls at night in order to sleep.
有一次，他给了她一块阿司匹林形状的绳肥皂，因为她晚上为了睡觉会吞下一把肥皂。
But she considered this over-sized pill a vicious hint that Dad wanted her to go to sleep for good.
但她认为这种超大药丸是一种恶毒的暗示，表明爸爸希望她永远睡觉。
In a crowded mall, Dad let go of a door and it nailed her in the forehead.
在一个拥挤的商场里，爸爸松开了一扇门，门钉在了她的额头上。
She stunned cheery Christmas shoppers with a high-decibel accusation.
她以高分贝的指责震惊了兴高采烈的圣诞购物者。
Her husband was trying to kill her with doors.
她的丈夫试图用门杀死她。
We kids made him happy, gorging on hot dogs and pancakes paid for by his hammer-and-nailing.
我们这些孩子让他很高兴，我们狼吞虎咽地吃热狗和煎饼，这些都是他用锤子和钉子付的钱。
But that didn't make a life.
但这并没有创造出生活。
So he made a decision.
于是他做出了决定。
He'd move us to Mammoth Lakes and teach us to ski.
他会把我们带到猛犸湖并教我们滑雪。
Screw all that empty labor and alienation.
去他妈的所有空洞的劳动和异化。
We would hike and have a serious blast, catch rainbow trout, and go sledding, and have snowball fights.
我们会徒步旅行，尽情狂欢，捉虹鳟鱼，去滑雪橇，打雪仗。
All he had to do was get fired.
他所要做的就是被解雇。
Unemployment and food stamps would carry us through the winter.
失业和食品券将陪伴我们度过冬天。
So he began a campaign to lose his construction job.
因此，他开始了一场失去建筑工作的运动。
He ignored his pouch of nails.
他忽略了他的指甲袋。
He lounged.
他懒洋洋地躺着。
He made idle chat.
他闲聊起来。
He was fired.
他被解雇了。
After being laid off, Dad went straight to the supermarket for moving boxes, but instead found an old man grinning from inside the dumpster like a euphoric half-wit, eating cold spaghetti from a can.
爸爸下岗后，直接去超市搬箱子，却发现一个老人在垃圾箱里笑得像个傻瓜，吃着罐头里的冷意大利面。
His face was covered with grime, and his teeth had rotted down to brown spikes.
他的脸上沾满了污垢，牙齿已经腐烂成棕色的尖刺。
But Dad thought he was the happiest person he'd seen in years.
但爸爸认为他是多年来他见过的最幸福的人。
He wanted to share his score with Dad.
他想与爸爸分享他的分数。
Some nice chicken, broccoli, mangoes, a mystery novel, and a bag of hard candy, most of which was going to his 60-year-old girlfriend waiting in a nearby trailer park.
一些美味的鸡肉、西兰花、芒果、一本悬疑小说和一袋硬糖，其中大部分是送给在附近拖车公园等他的 60 岁女友的。
"Very important to share." He offered Dad the chicken.
“分享非常重要。”他把鸡肉递给爸爸。
"Plenty to go around and just thrown out that morning.
“有很多东西可以到处走，但那天早上就被扔掉了。
All wrapped up tight in plastic.
全部用塑料紧紧包裹着。
No worse than day-old bread.
不比放了一天的面包差。
And Lord knows, the price is right." Dad got the hell out of there.
天知道，这个价格是合适的。”爸爸从那里逃了出来。
But he spent the entire afternoon thinking about it, even took a half-assed shot at discussing it with Mom.
但他整个下午都在想这件事，甚至还半途而废地和妈妈讨论过。
That old guy had looked more relaxed and content, hip-deep in dregs, than Dad could remember ever feeling.
那个老家伙看起来比爸爸记忆中的任何时候都要轻松、满足，浑身都是渣。
Trashing made money obsolete.
垃圾处理让金钱变得过时。
No reason to pay for food.
没有理由为食物付钱。
It waits out back the same as on the shelf.
它像在架子上一样在后面等待。
Mom was mortified.
妈妈很羞愧。
It was ludicrous to be envious of a homeless person.
嫉妒一个无家可归的人是可笑的。
Freedom meant choices, and that old guy had none.
自由意味着选择，而那个老家伙却没有。
But Dad had plenty and should be making something of his life instead of thinking low-class thoughts.
但爸爸已经有很多了，他应该为自己的生活做点什么，而不是想着低级的想法。
Dad went back first thing in the morning.
爸爸早上第一件事就回去了。
He watched an aproned kid carry out a gallon jar of pickled eggs like a football.
他看着一个系着围裙的孩子像踢足球一样拎着一加仑罐腌鸡蛋。
And the passage from in to out was crystal clear.
而且从里到外的通道一目了然。
Nothing about the eggs had changed.
鸡蛋没有任何变化。
But in 30 seconds, the jar had been transformed from top-notch product into utter swill.
但仅仅30秒，罐子就从一流的产品变成了彻头彻尾的泔水。
Dad went over just for a look and found a split-open, 50-pound bag of dry dog food.
爸爸过去看了一眼，发现了一袋50磅重的裂开的干狗粮。
Perfect initiation.
完美的启蒙。
He could test the water without sticking anything in his mouth.
他可以在嘴里不放任何东西的情况下试水。
He could climb in for a loyal family dog and save the $5 her food cost every week.
他可以养一只忠诚的家养狗，每周为她节省 5 美元的食物费用。
A few minutes in the dumpster would equal 5 smackers.
在垃圾箱里呆几分钟就等于 5 次打耳光。
That was about $100 an hour.
那大约是每小时100美元。
He climbed in and spotted the jar, expiration date one day passed, lid snug.
他爬进去，发现了那个罐子，保质期已经过去一天了，盖子盖得很紧。
He opened it, the dumpster suddenly feeling like half foxhole-half goldmine, and hesitated only long enough to smell the top egg, then wolfed it down.
他打开了它，突然感觉垃圾箱就像一半是散兵坑，一半是金矿，他犹豫了一会儿，只闻到了上面的鸡蛋的味道，然后狼吞虎咽地把它吞了下去。
Delicious.
可口的。
He sped home, and fed the dog, and tried to pass out the eggs.
他飞快地跑回家，喂了狗，并试图把鸡蛋分发出去。
But Mom was glaring at the menacing, felt-tip X marked in the jar lid.
但妈妈却怒视着罐子盖上用毡尖笔画出的危险的“X”标记。
"That better not be what I think it is," she said, "so help me god."
“那最好不是我想的那样，”她说，“所以上帝帮助我吧。”
Dad opened his mouth to deny it, but froze.
爸爸张了张嘴想要否认，却愣住了。
"OK, fine," he said, deciding to try to be himself even if his wife didn't want him to.
“好吧，好吧，”他说，决定尝试做自己，即使他的妻子不希望他这样做。
"It's trash."
“这是垃圾。”
Mom stomped into the bedroom, and Dad followed.
妈妈跺着脚走进卧室，爸爸也跟着进去。
He said he finally understood what he'd been doing with his life.
他说他终于明白了自己这一生在做什么。
He'd been working for furniture, and new shoes, and magazine subscriptions, making petty habits a priority and handing authority to some persona, who he thought he should be instead of who he was.
他一直在为家具、新鞋和杂志订阅工作，把小习惯放在首位，并将权力交给一些他认为他应该成为的人，而不是他是谁。
But those eggs were undeniable.
但这些鸡蛋是不可否认的。
More trash meant less work.
更多的垃圾意味着更少的工作。
Less work meant more time and, finally, more life.
更少的工作意味着更多的时间，最终意味着更多的生活。
Think of it.
想一想吧。
They could do whatever the hell they wanted.
他们可以为所欲为。
No work.
没有工作。
Just skiing, sledding, snowballs, food stamps.
只是滑雪、雪橇、雪球、食品券。
"No." Mom despised food stamps.
“不。”妈妈鄙视食品券。
People snickered in line, and checkers were condescending.
排队的人们窃笑不已，跳棋的人也居高临下。
Her father had raised 10 children and never once resorted to crummy welfare or scavenging.
她的父亲养育了 10 个孩子，但从未求助于低劣的福利或拾荒。
But she was missing the point.
但她没有抓住要点。
So Dad spoke slowly.
于是爸爸慢慢地说。
"I don't want to waste any more days at all." Mom smothered herself with a pillow and blurted, "I won't do it." In three weeks, we would leave for Mammoth Mountain in California.
“我不想再浪费时间了。”妈妈用枕头捂住自己，脱口而出：“我不会这么做。”三周后，我们将前往加利福尼亚州的猛犸山。
Dad had heard that Mammoth had the most square footage of terrifying slope in the country.
爸爸听说猛犸象拥有全国面积最大的恐怖斜坡。
Pine sap smelled like vanilla.
松树汁闻起来像香草。
And for $250 a month, we could live four miles below some 30 ski lifts and a space-age gondola that raced to nose-bleed altitudes and stopped at a cafeteria halfway down the run, where everyone collapsed and refueled on corned beef and cabbage and steins of beer.
每月花 250 美元，我们就可以住在距大约 30 个滑雪缆车和太空时代缆车不到 4 英里的地方，缆车会飞到令人流鼻血的高度，并在半途停在一家自助餐厅，每个人都倒下，用咸牛肉、卷心菜和啤酒补充能量。
Our house was an A-frame crowded by wild Christmas trees.
我们的房子是一个A字形框架，里面挤满了野生圣诞树。
And on the very day we moved in, a fish hatchery truck backed down our driveway to stock the backyard creek with brook trout.
在我们搬进去的那天，一辆鱼孵化场的卡车从我们的车道上倒退，在后院的小溪里放了鳟鱼。
"Talk about a good omen," Dad said.
“谈谈一个好兆头，”爸爸说。
There was no time to locate fishing rods.
没有时间寻找钓鱼竿。
We just blitzed in and started groping.
我们一闪而过，就开始摸索。
And Dad cheered from the bank.
爸爸在银行里欢呼。
My first fish ever was 12 inches long and nabbed with cold, bare hands.
我的第一条鱼有 12 英寸长，是用冰冷的徒手抓到的。
I raised it over my head, and we were all screaming.
我把它举过头顶，我们都尖叫起来。
At first, husband and wife shopped together.
起初，夫妻俩一起购物。
Mom headed for the electric doors, clutching those dreaded food stamps.
妈妈拿着那些可怕的食品券走向电动门。
And Dad called out, "The adventure's in back, Babe." He views this as a whole-hearted invitation, but even now, there's a taunting edge to his voice that he doesn't acknowledge.
爸爸喊道：“冒险就在后面，宝贝。”他认为这是一次全心全意的邀请，但即使是现在，他的声音中仍然有一种他不承认的嘲讽意味。
The amount of food being cast out in Mammoth was astounding.
猛犸象中扔出的食物数量令人震惊。
The economy was tourist-driven, and fancy skiers preferred high-class eats.
经济由游客驱动，高水平滑雪者更喜欢高级美食。
So the instant a piece of fruit showed age, it was ditched.
因此，当一块水果出现老化现象时，它就会被丢弃。
Dad scored racks of papayas so ripe, they were oozing and split.
爸爸把一排排的木瓜弄得熟透了，它们都流出来了，裂开了。
If the corner of a cereal box got crunched, managers considered the cereal inside irrelevant.
如果麦片盒的一角被压碎，经理们就会认为里面的麦片无关紧要。
If a manager needed shelf space for granola bars and trail mix, he abandoned a slow seller.
如果经理需要货架空间来放置格兰诺拉麦片棒和什锦干果，他就会放弃滞销产品。
And Dad lugged home crates of onion-flavored potato chips, unfresh bagels, a dozen cottage cheeses.
爸爸拖着一箱箱洋葱味薯片、不新鲜的百吉饼和一打干酪回家。
Finding enough to feed a family of five was a breeze.
找到足以养活一家五口的食物是轻而易举的事。
But afterward, when he wanted to compare hauls, mom looked at him with disdain and kept her bags away from his, afraid of contamination, setting her prediction of his death by poisoning at two weeks.
但后来，当他想要比较收获时，妈妈轻蔑地看着他，并把她的包远离他，因为担心受到污染，她预测他会在两周内中毒死亡。
She warned us about the bins.
她警告我们注意垃圾箱。
Dad was immune to the filth because selfishness and spiritual corruption had made him thick-skinned.
爸爸对污秽免疫，因为自私和精神败坏让他脸皮厚了。
But we were angelic and frail, and might suffocate on the stink.
但我们像天使一样脆弱，可能会被臭气窒息。
Or worse, slip and bash our heads.
或者更糟糕的是，滑倒并撞到我们的头。
Then literally drown in two inches of immoral muck.
然后就真的淹死在两英寸深的不道德的淤泥里了。
She said trash was a horrible thing, but it was difficult for us to believe.
她说垃圾是一件可怕的事情，但我们很难相信。
Dad was having big fun.
爸爸玩得很开心。
And one thing children seem to understand, fun is not horrible.
孩子们似乎明白一件事，乐趣并不可怕。
Mom declared the refrigerator off-limits.
妈妈宣布冰箱禁止进入。
Dad found an old fridge and stashed his booty in the garage.
爸爸找到了一台旧冰箱，把他的战利品藏在车库里。
Mom banned trashing at her favorite stores, so Dad sneaked out at night and hid convenience desserts under our pillows.
妈妈禁止在她最喜欢的商店扔垃圾，所以爸爸晚上偷偷溜出去，把方便甜点藏在我们的枕头下。
Mom found licked-clean pudding cartons and forbade us to eat "that." Dad picked us up from school, and we hit candy stores and pastry shops on the sly.
妈妈发现了舔干净的布丁盒，并禁止我们吃“那个”。爸爸接我们放学，我们偷偷地去了糖果店和糕点店。
"Jackpot" became the code word when my sister found a jumbo pack of Twinkies designed to be carried like a backpack.
当我姐姐发现了一大包设计得像背包一样携带的奶油夹心蛋糕时，“头奖”就成了暗号。
She ran at top speed with a tube of decorative crepe paper, flailing her arms and sprinting a huge circle back to the Twinkies.
她拿着一管装饰皱纹纸以最快的速度奔跑，挥舞着双臂，冲刺了一个大圈，回到了三明治店。
The red paper unraveled behind her like a parade streamer.
红纸在她身后散开，就像游行的彩带一样。
We made ourselves sick, cramming all of the Twinkies in the drive home, then laid around the house and groaned.
我们把所有的奶油夹心饼干塞进回家的车里，然后躺在房子周围呻吟，让自己感到恶心。
Mom put two and two together, then staged a protest.
妈妈把两个两个放在一起，然后提出抗议。
She wouldn't speak again until her children were garbage free.
在她的孩子们没有垃圾之前，她不会再说话。
She wouldn't do a single chore.
她连一件家务活都不会做。
For a week, we saw her only twice a day.
一周以来，我们每天只见到她两次。
Straight to her room after work and stomping out to the car in the morning.
下班后直接回房间，早上就踩着车出去。
Dad prepared all-trash meals.
爸爸准备了全垃圾餐。
A sourdough culture thrived in a Mason jar above the stove.
酸面团文化在炉子上方的玻璃瓶中蓬勃发展。
Dad mixed it in his second-hand flour and made humongous stacks of pancakes, referred to as "gooners," smothered with coconut syrup from behind the health food store.
爸爸把它和他的二手面粉混合，做了一大堆煎饼，被称为“gooners”，上面涂满了健康食品店后面的椰子糖浆。
"Who wants gooners?" he would shout.
“谁想要暴徒？”他会大喊。
"Me, me, me."
“我，我，我。”
Mom packed her bags.
妈妈收拾好行李。
She gathered us at the door to explain that Dad was a heartless son of a bitch whom she couldn't stand for another second.
她把我们聚集在门口，向我们解释说爸爸是个无情的王八蛋，她一秒钟都受不了。
But she would come visit us on the weekends.
但她周末会来看我们。
And we could stay with her.
我们可以和她呆在一起。
"Whatever you want," she said.
“无论你想要什么，”她说。
"It's up to you." We begged her to stay.
“由你决定。”我们恳求她留下来。
We got on our knees and gradually convinced her that life would be pointless and crappy without her.
我们跪下来，逐渐让她相信，没有她，生活将变得毫无意义、糟糕透顶。
And as she unpacked, I sobbed with relief.
当她打开行李时，我如释重负地抽泣起来。
But when she packed again in four days, we barely glanced up from the television.
但当她四天后再次收拾行李时，我们几乎没有从电视上抬起头来。
And from then on, she had to convince herself to stick around.
从那时起，她就必须说服自己坚持下去。
I end up calling Mom to ask her about those years.
我最后打电话给妈妈，询问她那些年的情况。
She's a little perturbed by my questions.
她对我的问题有点不安。
Why do I take such an interest in Dad when he's always been such a selfish jerk?
为什么我对爸爸这么感兴趣，他一直是个自私的混蛋？
She was the one.
她就是那个。
She was there for us.
她就在我们身边。
She paid the bills and kept the heat on.
她付了账单并保持暖气。
She crawled under the house and unfroze the pipes when Dad went on his damn winter vacations to Baja.
当爸爸去巴哈度寒假时，她爬到房子下面解冻了管道。
She worked really hard for Christmases and new clothes for school.
她为圣诞节和上学穿新衣服而努力工作。
Dad only did whatever the hell he wanted.
爸爸只是做他想做的事。
But he always got the credit for being such a great father.
但他总是因成为一位伟大的父亲而受到赞誉。
And now I'm writing a book about him?
现在我正在写一本关于他的书？
Why?
为什么？
What did he do to deserve all this attention?
他做了什么值得如此关注？
She says, "He has less freedom than any man I've ever known.
她说：“他的自由比我认识的任何人都少。
He can't go where he wants because he can't spend anything to get what he wants.
他不能去他想去的地方，因为他无法花任何钱去得到他想要的东西。
He has to go worst class because he's not free enough to part with a dollar."
他必须去最差的班级，因为他没有足够的自由来放弃一美元。”
She's on the verge of crying now, but contains herself long enough to recount some bitter family folklore, husband eats heart of watermelon.
她现在快要哭了，但还是忍住了，讲述了一些痛苦的家庭民间传说：丈夫吃西瓜心。
"Now with me," she says, "I would cut a piece off.
“现在对我来说，”她说，“我会切下一块。
And everyone would have a piece.
每个人都会有一块。
Burt's way was to cut down the middle and eat the heart out because that's the part he wanted.
伯特的方法是把中间切掉，把心吃掉，因为那是他想要的部分。
I said, 'But Burt, that's the best part.
我说，‘但是伯特，这是最好的部分。
And you should only take your share of the best part.' But he said, 'No, I take what I want.'"
你应该只拿走最好的部分。”但他说，‘不，我拿我想要的。’”
She warned him.
她警告他。
"Do it again, and you'll be sorry." He did it again.
“再做一次，你会后悔的。”他又这么做了。
So she grabbed the gutted melon and went after him.
于是，她抓起去内脏的瓜，追了上去。
"I threw it and hit him right on the head on the apartment steps.
“我把它扔了出去，在公寓台阶上击中了他的头部。
As with most things, I didn't put my foot down soon enough.
与大多数事情一样，我并没有尽快采取行动。
I just kept thinking he was going to evolve, that these weirdnesses in him were going to change.
我只是一直认为他会进化，他身上的这些怪异会改变。
But it got worse instead of better.
但情况不但没有好转，反而变得更糟。
From the person I married to the person I divorced 20 years later, I couldn't recognize anything in that man."
从我结婚的那个人到20年后我离婚的那个人，我已经认不出那个人有什么了。”
Later, I asked Dad about the watermelon.
后来我问爸爸西瓜的事。
"I wanted her to experience that same thing I did," he said.
“我想让她经历我所做的同样的事情，”他说。
"You've got this really great part.
“你得到了这个非常伟大的部分。
I wanted her to experience the heart of life, I guess, or the heart of the watermelon.
我想我想让她体验生活的核心，或者说西瓜的核心。
You give yourself that gift.
你给自己这份礼物。
You give yourself a gift of what happens.
你给自己一份发生的事情的礼物。
And that's what makes life worthwhile."
这就是让生活变得有价值的原因。”
"When I ate the heart?
“我什么时候吃掉心脏的？
She was upset.
她很沮丧。
She ran after me, and she threw it at me.
她追上我，然后把它扔给我。
I ran down the stairs.
我跑下楼梯。
She threw it after me.
她把它扔到我身后。
But I got another watermelon.
但我又得到了一个西瓜。
And I said, 'Now I want you to eat the heart.' But she wouldn't do it.
我说：“现在我要你吃掉心脏。”但她不会这么做。
I said, 'This is for you.
我说：‘这是给你的。
You eat the heart.' If I cut it out and gave it to her, she couldn't eat it.
你吃了心脏。如果我把它切下来给她，她就不能吃了。
She said, 'I can't.
她说：‘我不能。
I can't eat the heart.' She didn't think she deserved it."
我不能吃心脏。她认为她不值得。”
"So what did you do then?" I ask.
“那你后来做了什么？”我问。
"I don't know." He breaks into a big laugh.
“我不知道。”他大笑起来。
"I may have eaten the heart."
“我可能已经吃掉了心脏。”
Years ago, Dad was handing out mini jugs of orange juice when my sister spotted a boy from grade school, staring from his bicycle at the far end of the lot.
几年前，爸爸正在分发小罐橙汁，这时我姐姐发现一个小学男孩在停车场的尽头骑着自行车盯着看。
Her expression made Dad think she'd cut her finger or smashed a toe.
她的表情让爸爸以为她割伤了手指或砸伤了脚趾。
She ducked behind the dumpster and hissed, "I know him," eventually confessing to Mom that she had a crush on the boy.
她躲在垃圾箱后面，嘶嘶地说：“我认识他，”最终向妈妈承认她迷恋这个男孩。
When he ridiculed her at recess, she sucker punched him in the throat and was suspended from fifth grade for three days.
当他在课间嘲笑她时，她打了他的喉咙，五年级被停学三天。
She refused to leave her room.
她拒绝离开她的房间。
So Mom carried in favorite dinners on a big platter.
于是妈妈用一个大盘子盛了她最喜欢的晚餐。
Dad wanted to talk her through it, but took the wrong approach, suggesting she see shame as a concept and not just a feeling.
爸爸想和她谈谈这件事，但采取了错误的方法，建议她将羞耻视为一个概念而不仅仅是一种感觉。
It was replacement emotion, like anger, he said.
他说，这是一种替代情绪，比如愤怒。
We used it when we couldn't distinguish exactly how we felt.
当我们无法准确区分自己的感受时，我们就会使用它。
Dad drilled her with thematics, but was simply attaching a stigma to her reaction by implying that her feelings weren't real.
爸爸用主题对她进行训练，但只是暗示她的感受并不真实，从而给她的反应带来了耻辱。
So he finally shut up.
于是他终于闭嘴了。
He tried to empathize instead.
相反，他试图表达同情。
He squatted in dumpsters and pictured the person he'd least like to see him there.
他蹲在垃圾箱里，想象着他最不想看到的那个人。
An old girlfriend, the president, John Wayne.
一位老女友，总统约翰·韦恩。
He tried to humiliate himself, but couldn't.
他试图羞辱自己，但失败了。
So he sat down again with my sister and tried to be on her side this time.
于是他又和我姐姐坐下来，这次试图站在她一边。
If her heart hurt, hey, that's all that mattered.
如果她的心受伤了，嘿，那才是最重要的。
She should go for it, he said, feel as ashamed as she wanted.
他说，她应该去争取，尽管感到羞耻，但她还是愿意。
Shame held significance for her, obviously.
显然，羞耻对她来说很重要。
So the only way to figure it out was to, as he said, take it to the limit.
因此，正如他所说，解决这个问题的唯一方法就是将其发挥到极限。
She said, "I don't want anymore trash, Dad."
她说：“爸爸，我不再想要垃圾了。”
I remind Dad of how, when we were young, he would spend an entire day playing with us.
我让爸爸想起，当我们还小的时候，他会花一整天的时间和我们一起玩。
But he would never spend time making money if we wanted something.
但如果我们想要什么，他永远不会花时间赚钱。
"Well," he said, "the things that money could buy are not of great value.
“嗯，”他说，“钱能买到的东西并不值钱。
To me, love is a giving of time and attention.
对我来说，爱是付出时间和关注。
That's a real gift.
那是一份真正的礼物。
Money's not a gift.
钱不是礼物。
It just gives you things.
它只是给你一些东西。
And they're OK.
他们都很好。
But they're not of primary importance.
但它们并不是最重要的。
Money's OK.
有钱就可以了
It's another adventure.
这是另一次冒险。
So you go on the money adventure.
所以你继续金钱冒险。
How far can you go?
你能走多远？
You get a yacht or whatever people do with a lot of money.
你可以用很多钱买一艘游艇或者其他任何人做的事情。
But then what do you do?
但那你该怎么办呢？
Are you really happy?
你真的幸福吗？
You've still got to do something with life.
你仍然必须为生活做点什么。
There's a certain searching.
有一定的寻找。
Everybody's curious and looking.
大家都很好奇，都在寻找。
You see people looking everywhere.
你会看到人们四处张望。
What are they looking for?
他们在寻找什么？
I think it's right in front them.
我想就在他们面前。
Right there.
就在那里。
The thing itself."
事情本身。”
Dirk Jamison's story Tao of the Dumpster first appeared in the LA Weekly.
德克·贾米森的小说《垃圾箱之道》首次发表在《洛杉矶周刊》上。
He's also made a film about the subject.
他还制作了一部有关该主题的电影。
And he has a book about his childhood called Perishable: A Memoir.
他还有一本关于他童年的书，名为《易腐烂：回忆录》。
[MUSIC - "BUSTED" BY WACO BROTHERS]
[音乐 - WACO 兄弟的“BUSTED”]
Act Four, Another Success Story.
第四幕，另一个成功故事。
Well, Hollywood is our national capital of something for nothing and our dream of something for nothing.
好吧，好莱坞是我们不劳而获的国家首都，也是我们不劳而获的梦想的首都。
And of course, anybody who's ever seen any of those movies about Hollywood-- Barton Fink, A Star is Born, Day of the Locust-- anybody who's seen them knows that the classic story of something for nothing is about the price that you pay once you make your easy money, once you make your big kill.
当然，任何看过好莱坞电影的人——《巴顿·芬克》、《一个明星的诞生》、《蝗虫之日》——任何看过这些电影的人都知道，不劳而获的经典故事是关于一旦你轻松赚到钱、一旦你大获全胜后所付出的代价。
So with that in mind, we will end our program today with a variation on that theme from writer Sandra Tsing Loh in Los Angeles.
因此，考虑到这一点，我们今天将以洛杉矶作家 Sandra Tsing Loh 的主题变体来结束我们的节目。
Do I believe in the magic of Disney?
我相信迪士尼的魔力吗？
Yes, I do.
是的，我愿意。
One day, my friend Roger Cox was a 40-something, underemployed, actor, director, pet sitter.
有一天，我的朋友罗杰·考克斯 (Roger Cox) 40 多岁，失业，身为演员、导演、宠物保姆。
The next, he blossomed into a veritable industry mini-mogul, sporting capped teeth, brand new Isuzu Trooper, even health insurance.
接下来，他成长为名副其实的行业小巨头，戴着牙套，拥有全新的五十铃 Trooper，甚至还有健康保险。
Sound miraculous?
听起来很神奇吗？
Cinderella-esque?
灰姑娘式的？
Late '80s?
八十年代末？
It is.
这是。
And it could only have happened in Glendale at the Walt Disney Corporation.
这只能发生在格伦代尔的华特迪士尼公司。
The story begins in a little, ramshackle bungalow sans air conditioning in Pasadena.
故事开始于帕萨迪纳市一栋摇摇欲坠、没有空调的小平房。
The year is 1985.
时间是1985年。
Our hero has just stepped off the plane from New York, penniless, with only a duffel bag.
我们的英雄刚刚从纽约走下飞机，身无分文，只带着一个行李袋。
LA is a place where appearances mean a lot.
洛杉矶是一个外表很重要的地方。
And let us just say that in fall 1985, Roger does not look like a person who will soon be playing tennis in Encino.
我们只能说，1985 年秋天，罗杰看起来并不像一个即将在恩西诺打网球的人。
He is 41 going on 70, a battered 5 foot 3.
他今年 41 岁，身高 70 岁，身高 5 英尺 3 英寸，饱受摧残。
A root-beer dwarf is his self-description.
他的自我描述是“根汁啤酒侏儒”。
A chain smoker, a lousy dresser, and has bad knees.
一个烟鬼，一个糟糕的梳妆台，而且膝盖也不好。
Equity Waiver Theater can be a cruel mistress.
股权豁免剧院可能是一个残酷的情妇。
And after 35, she can inflict a certain darkness of spirit.
35岁之后，她可以造成一定程度的精神黑暗。
"She takes all your money and, after a while, won't even [BLEEP] you anymore," as my friend Mel says.
正如我的朋友梅尔所说，“她拿走了你所有的钱，一段时间后，甚至不再[哔哔]你。”
Because 35 is an age when even the most die-hard bohemian begins to wish for life's little luxuries, one's own futon to sleep on, liability car insurance, dental care.
因为在 35 岁这个年龄，即使是最顽固的波西米亚人也开始渴望生活中的小奢侈，自己睡觉的蒲团、责任汽车保险、牙科护理。
Roger has none of these things, so add to the appearance a somewhat negative life outlook.
罗杰没有这些东西，所以给他的外表增添了一些消极的人生观。
But this is all soon to change.
但这一切很快就会改变。
How is almost Hans-Christian-Andersen-esque.
几乎是汉斯·克里斯蒂安·安徒生式的。
Fast forward to 1987.
快进到 1987 年。
Roger is tapped to direct an original play in a not-untypical, 77-seat LA run.
罗杰被任命在洛杉矶的 77 个座位中执导一部原创戏剧。
That is, six weeks of rehearsal culminating in one weekend of performance.
也就是说，六周的排练最终在一个周末的演出中结束。
Meanwhile, someone loses $6,000, there are no reviews, and frantic efforts to videotape it at some tiny college in Pomona with hostile student cameramen come to nothing.
与此同时，有人损失了 6,000 美元，没有任何评论，在波莫纳的一所小学院里，由敌对的学生摄影师拍摄视频的疯狂努力也毫无结果。
The final insult?
最后的侮辱？
Monday morning, Roger, the director, is forced to drive all the props and furniture back himself.
周一早上，导演罗杰被迫亲自将所有道具和家具运回来。
Picture it.
想象一下。
There our hero sits on a blazing Monday morning-- and how cruel those LA Monday mornings are-- at a stoplight, Western and Santa Monica, in his uninsured '79 Honda Civic.
我们的英雄在一个炎热的周一早晨——洛杉矶的周一早晨是多么残酷——在西部和圣莫尼卡的红绿灯处，开着他那辆没有保险的 79 款本田思域。
But then something makes Roger look to his left.
但随后有什么东西让罗杰看向左边。
And there, gesturing at him madly, is a well-groomed woman in a cream-colored Audi.
在那里，一位穿着整洁、开着米色奥迪车的女人疯狂地向他打着手势。
"Roger!" she calls out.
“罗杰！”她喊道。
He rolls down his window.
他摇下车窗。
"John is in town.
“约翰在城里。
He wants you to call him." A phone number is hurled into the shuddering Honda, followed by the screech of Audi tires.
他要你给他打电话。”一个电话号码被扔进了颤抖的本田车里，接着是奥迪轮胎的刺耳声。
One week later, boom!
一星期后，轰！
Roger is hired by Disney.
罗杰受雇于迪士尼。
And why not?
为什么不呢？
Disney's amusement park division is expanding, expanding, expanding.
迪士尼的游乐园部门正在扩张、扩张、扩张。
They are building up Disneyworld in Orlando like crazy.
他们正在疯狂地在奥兰多建造迪士尼世界。
Next is Euro Disney.
接下来是欧洲迪士尼。
Then there's Japan.
然后是日本。
They need creative thinkers.
他们需要创造性的思想家。
Roger is suddenly drawing $60,000 a year, perhaps four times what he's seen in those 40-odd years.
罗杰突然每年领取 60,000 美元，也许是他这 40 多年来所见的四倍。
Job description?
职位描述？
Imagineer.
想象家。
"Roger thinks up rides for amusement parks," I would tell other bohos, semi-employed 30-somethings, active in their various part-time songwriting, freelance recording engineer, jewelry design, $8 an hour word processing, unpublished novelist, studio-based trombone, pot-selling industries.
“罗杰想出游乐园的游乐设施，”我会告诉其他波西米亚人，半职业的 30 多岁的人，活跃于各种兼职歌曲创作，自由录音工程师，珠宝设计，每小时 8 美元的文字处理，未出版的小说家，工作室长号，大麻销售行业。
"Wow," such creative types respond, their eyes glazing over.
“哇，”这些富有创造力的人会做出这样的反应，他们的目光呆滞。
And at the end of the evening, Roger would unfailingly pick up the check.
晚上结束时，罗杰一定会收到支票。
His triumphal cry?
他胜利的呐喊？
"It's on the mouse."
“它在鼠标上。”
Roger came to have a dapper new look, too.
罗杰也焕然一新。
Once on the Disney lot-- where you meet a better class of people anyway-- he had almost immediately met a fine new woman named Donna, who made it her mission to get the Tweeds catalog and buy Roger everything out of it.
一旦进入迪士尼乐园——无论如何，在那里你会遇到更好的人——他几乎立刻就遇到了一位名叫唐娜的新女性，她的使命是获得特威兹目录并从其中购买罗杰的一切。
Soon Roger is resplendent in safari khakis, and beige linens, and crisp, white shirts.
很快，罗杰就穿上了卡其布、米色亚麻布和挺括的白衬衫，光彩照人。
He trades in the Civic for a Trooper.
他用思域换了一辆骑兵。
The hair is permed.
头发被烫了。
Teeth are capped.
牙齿被盖住了。
New glasses are purchased.
购买了新眼镜。
Roger begins to look positively sleek.
罗杰开始看起来非常时尚。
In his Equity Waiver days, he used to call industry scouts, with great derision, "the IJS," which stood for "Important Jewish Suits." Now he is one.
在他的股权豁免时代，他常常带着极大的嘲笑，称行业侦察员为“IJS”，它代表“重要的犹太诉讼”。现在他是其中之一。
He quits smoking.
他戒烟了。
He pays off some 20-odd-years of debt.
他还清了大约20多年的债务。
Roger begins to hire his poorer artistic friends for Walt Disney imagineering gigs.
罗杰开始雇佣他的穷艺术朋友参加华特迪士尼的想象演出。
He is Solomon, dispensing coins to the peasants.
他是所罗门，正在向农民分发硬币。
Voice-overs flow from him.
画外音从他口中传出。
A music score for a three-minute, in-house film.
一部三分钟的内部电影的配乐。
$100 checks for two hours of concept consulting.
两小时的概念咨询费用为 100 美元。
Roger is absolutely in his element.
罗杰绝对如鱼得水。
Never was a job so suited to a person.
从来没有一项工作如此适合一个人。
Calls wore in from him Monday morning.
周一早上他不断接到电话。
"Asia," he exclaims in stentorian tones.
“亚洲，”他大声喊道。
"What do you find fascinating about Asia?
“亚洲的哪些方面让您着迷？
Go." Apparently, this week's task is to think up rides based on the continents.
走吧。”显然，本周的任务是根据各大洲构思游乐设施。
But why stop there?
但为什么要停在那里呢？
Next week, his assignment is "The universe.
下周，他的作业是“宇宙”。
Go."
走吧。”
But then the tide turns.
但随后潮流发生了逆转。
Was it an angry look from Michael Eisner?
是迈克尔·艾斯纳愤怒的表情吗？
One bloated Visa bill too many?
一张臃肿的 Visa 账单太多了吗？
A bad dream about a mouse?
关于老鼠的噩梦？
"Ayenbite of Inwyt" is Roger's three-word explanation.
“因威特的阿延比特”是罗杰的三个词的解释。
And when a Disney person begins quoting Joyce, that is the point where you know you will soon be paying for your own drinks.
当迪士尼人士开始引用乔伊斯的话时，你就知道你很快就会为自己的饮料付钱。
Roger begins staying in over the weekend, reading Nietzsche, Boll, books about the Grand Guignol Theater.
罗杰开始在周末呆在家里，阅读尼采、波尔和有关大吉尼奥尔剧院的书籍。
Ask him how Asia and his close friend Jeffrey Katzenberg are doing, and one gets only a curt response.
当问他阿莎和他的密友杰弗里·卡森伯格过得怎么样时，他只得到了简短的回答。
"I'm tired of writing for robots." In the next breath, Roger goes into a wild tirade.
“我厌倦了为机器人写作。”下一口气，罗杰开始了疯狂的长篇大论。
Excitedly, he outlines his new project.
他兴奋地概述了他的新项目。
To perform "Crap's Last Tape" in the Theatre Theater toilet, pants down around his ankles, for three people.
在剧院厕所里表演“Crap's Last Tape”时，裤子要脱到脚踝处，供三个人表演。
He is smoking again.
他又抽烟了。
You know he's finally gone over the edge when he tells you he is thinking of designing a new amusement park concept called "Crap Land." Here, terrible crap happens to people and uniformed Craplanders cheerfully abuse them.
当他告诉你他正在考虑设计一个名为“垃圾乐园”的新游乐园概念时，你知道他终于崩溃了。在这里，可怕的事情发生在人们身上，穿着制服的克拉普兰德人兴高采烈地辱骂他们。
Fortunately for Roger, the world economy turns.
对罗杰来说幸运的是，世界经济正在发生转变。
And soon the amusement park industry is to go into a little bit of a bust.
很快，游乐园行业就会陷入萧条。
In short, in summer 1992, the unthinkable happens.
简而言之，1992 年夏天，不可思议的事情发生了。
Disney lays off some 400 of its 500 imagineers.
迪士尼解雇了 500 名想象者中的约 400 名。
Even though, oddly, the construction of new buildings and wings continues apace.
尽管如此，奇怪的是，新建筑和侧翼的建设仍在快速进行。
The nightmare is over.
噩梦结束了。
Roger is free again.
罗杰又自由了。
He is at peace.
他很平静。
After all, he's had five great years, thanks to his corporate fairy godmother.
毕竟，多亏了他的企业仙女教母，他度过了美好的五年。
His debts are paid off.
他的债务还清了。
He's got a terrific wardrobe.
他有一个很棒的衣柜。
He has money in the bank.
他在银行里有钱。
He's got contacts both in his address book and in his eyes.
他的通讯录和眼睛里都有联系人。
He can collect unemployment now.
他现在可以领取失业救济金了。
Do nothing but dream for a year.
一年除了梦想什么都不做。
For a guy who came here with nothing, that's pretty good.
对于一个什么都没有来到这里的人来说，这已经很不错了。
Sandra Tsing Loh.
罗清珊.
Her most recent book, Mother On Fire, came out this month.
她的最新著作《燃烧的母亲》于本月出版。
Her friend Roger died last year.
她的朋友罗杰去年去世了。
Well, our program was produced today by Alix Spiegel and myself with Paul Tough, Nancy Updike, and Julie Snyder.
嗯，我们今天的节目是由我和阿利克斯·斯皮格尔、保罗·托夫、南希·厄普代克和朱莉·斯奈德共同制作的。
Contributing editors for this show Sarah Vowell, Jack Hitt, and Margy Rochlin.
本节目的特约编辑莎拉·沃威尔 (Sarah Vowell)、杰克·希特 (Jack Hitt) 和玛吉·罗克林 (Margy Rochlin)。
Adrianne Mathiowetz runs our website.
阿德琳娜·马修韦茨 (Adrianne Mathiowetz) 负责运营我们的网站。
Production help from Seth Lind and P.J.
Seth Lind 和 P.J. 的制作帮助
Vogt.
沃格特。
Music help today from John Connors.
今天约翰·康纳斯提供音乐帮助。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
[致谢]《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight for our show by our boss, Mr. Torey Malatia, who's always walking up to us in the hallway, standing next to us, and saying--
[资金来源] 我们的老板 Torey Malatia 先生对我们的演出进行 WBEZ 管理监督，他总是在走廊上走到我们面前，站在我们旁边，说——
You're standing next to the devil.
你就站在魔鬼旁边。
And you're riding a road to hell.
而你正走在通往地狱的路上。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
I said, "I'll stand here 'til you die.
我说：“我会站在这里，直到你死。
You may as well quit now."
你还是现在就退出吧。”
PRI, Public Radio International.
PRI，国际公共广播电台。
international.
国际的。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。