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Prologue: Prologue Ira Glass The first thing you need to know about Lori is that normally she's not the kind of girl who does this sort of thing at all.
序言:序言 Ira Glass 关于 Lori,你首先需要了解的是,通常她根本不是那种会做这种事的女孩。
She doesn't write to strangers.
她不给陌生人写信。
She doesn't do fan mail.
她不写粉丝来信。
But she's looking at-- you know the page in certain magazines where they have the little pictures of the people who write for the magazine?
但她正在看——你知道某些杂志上有为该杂志撰稿人的小照片的页面吗?
She was looking at that, and she saw the photo of this writer who she liked.
她正在看那个,看到了她喜欢的这位作家的照片。
The picture was blurry, but he had this intense look in his eye.
照片很模糊,但他的眼里却充满了强烈的神情。
And you could tell he was smart and cute, both at the same time.
你可以看出他既聪明又可爱,两者兼而有之。
But I saw this picture, and I was like, that guy's my soul mate.
但我看到这张照片,我就想,那个人是我的灵魂伴侣。
And I know that's completely insane.
我知道这完全是疯狂的。
But I knew that I could not not contact him because I would always regret it if I didn't.
但我知道我不能不联系他,因为如果不联系我我会永远后悔。
So I wrote this letter to the magazine, to him care of the magazine.
于是我给杂志社写了这封信,交给他保管这本杂志。
And I made up a story.
我编了一个故事。
I said, I think that-- I know this is gonna sound really weird.
我说,我认为——我知道这听起来很奇怪。
But I saw your picture on the contributors page.
但我在贡献者页面上看到了你的照片。
And you look exactly like this guy that I met in the airport years ago.
你看起来和我多年前在机场遇到的这个人一模一样。
This is a complete lie.
这完全是一个谎言。
Right.
正确的。
Lori Gottlieb So I said, I was changing planes.
Lori Gottlieb 所以我说,我要换飞机。
And you were going into one gate, and I was going into another.
你要进入一扇门,我要进入另一扇门。
And we struck up this conversation.
我们开始了这次谈话。
And you were talking about how you wanted to become a writer.
你正在谈论你如何想成为一名作家。
And I said, you know, I'm not sure if it's you.
我说,你知道,我不确定是不是你。
I know this sounds really strange, but if you remember this, let me know.
我知道这听起来很奇怪,但如果你还记得这一点,请告诉我。
And if it's not you, let me know also, just so that I know that it wasn't you.
如果不是你,也请告诉我,这样我就知道那不是你。
She figured that in the extremely unlikely event that they actually sort of got along and it led to something bigger, well, then she would admit the truth, and no harm done.
她认为,在极不可能发生的情况下,他们实际上相处得很好,并导致了更大的事情,那么她就会承认事实,并且不会造成任何伤害。
Remember, she had never done this kind of scam before.
请记住,她以前从未做过这种骗局。
She had no idea how complicated it could get.
她不知道事情会变得多么复杂。
So I don't hear from him, which I was relieved by, actually.
所以我没有收到他的消息,事实上,这让我松了一口气。
After I sent the letter, I really regretted actually sending the letter because I was really sort of just embarrassed that I had done this.
寄出这封信后,我真的很后悔寄出了这封信,因为我真的为自己这样做感到有点尴尬。
So then one day, like three months later, I get a call.
然后有一天,大约三个月后,我接到一个电话。
And I was actually waiting for the cable guy.
我实际上是在等有线电视人员。
I'd been waiting for, like, three days for the cable guy.
我已经等了有线电视人三天了。
So I'm on the phone with the cable company, and they're saying, the guy in the field is going to call you any second on your call waiting.
因此,我正在与有线电视公司通电话,他们说,现场人员会在您等待呼叫时随时给您打电话。
So we're gonna hang on with you while we contact him, and he's going to call you.
所以我们在联系他的时候会一直陪着你,他会打电话给你。
So then my call waiting beeps in.
然后我的呼叫等待嘟嘟响了。
And I say, hello?
我说,你好?
And the person says, is this Lori?
那人说,这是洛瑞吗?
And I say yes.
我说是的。
And the person says, I'm the guy.
那人说,我就是那个人。
And I think he's the cable guy.
我认为他是有线电视人。
So I say, where have you been?
所以我说,你去哪儿了?
And he says, I know.
他说,我知道。
I'm really sorry.
我真的很抱歉。
I meant to contact you earlier.
我本来想早点联系你的。
And this whole thing goes back and forth until I realize that he's not the cable guy.
整个事情来来回回,直到我意识到他不是有线电视人员。
So I said, you're not the cable guy?
所以我说,你不是有线电视人吗?
And he says, no. I'm the guy from the airport.
他说,不。我是机场来的那个人。
And I'm floored because I can't believe that he's calling me, that I'm actually on the phone with him, that I'm talking to this guy that I was momentarily obsessed with.
我很震惊,因为我不敢相信他在给我打电话,我真的在和他打电话,我正在和这个我暂时迷恋的人说话。
And it's him.
就是他。
And he starts to tell me that he's really glad that he heard from me because, yes, he's the guy from the airport.
他开始告诉我,他真的很高兴收到我的来信,因为,是的,他就是机场的那个人。
And what a coincidence, he's coming to LA to do a story the next day, and can we see each other again?
真巧,他第二天要来洛杉矶拍故事,我们还能再见吗?
And I'm thinking to myself, again?
我又在想?
This didn't happen.
这并没有发生。
And I'm really worried that he thinks that I'm somebody else.
我真的很担心他认为我是别人。
Like, maybe he met some other girl in the airport a long time ago, and he thinks that I'm that girl.
就像,也许他很久以前在机场遇到了另一个女孩,他认为我就是那个女孩。
And when he meets me, he's going to be really disappointed that I'm not whoever he was thinking of.
当他见到我时,他会非常失望,因为我不是他想象中的那个人。
Right.
正确的。
Lori Gottlieb But I also don't want to correct him because then I think if I tell him, you know what?
Lori Gottlieb 但我也不想纠正他,因为我想如果我告诉他,你知道吗?
Actually, I made the whole thing up, and I just wanted to get to meet you, he'll think I'm insane, and he won't want to meet me.
事实上,这一切都是我编造的,我只是想见见你,他会认为我疯了,他不会想见我。
So I decide that I will meet him, but I will tell him the truth immediately upon meeting him.
所以我决定去见他,但见面后我会立即告诉他真相。
Wait.
等待。
You know, there's a third option.
你知道,还有第三种选择。
And that is that he knows he didn't meet you, but he just wants to meet a girl.
那就是他知道他没有遇见你,但他只是想遇见一个女孩。
You know, I thought about that.
你知道,我想过这个。
And there was actually a fourth option, which was he knows that I'm screwing with him, and he's just getting back at me by kind of playing the game.
实际上还有第四种选择,那就是他知道我在和他搞砸,他只是通过玩游戏来报复我。
Wow.
哇。
I have to say, like, you were meeting him-- like, for him to be the person on the phone when you're expecting the cable guy, did that make it seem more romantic?
我不得不说,就像,你正在和他见面——就像,当你在等有线电视人员时,他接电话,这是否会让事情看起来更浪漫?
Like, you guys were meeting so cute.
就像,你们见面真是太可爱了。
Or did it make it feel like you didn't even want to deal?
或者这是否让您感觉根本不想交易?
Oh, no. The minute I found out that it was him, I completely regressed back into my state of obsession.
哦,不。当我发现是他的那一刻,我完全回到了痴迷的状态。
And in terms of meeting cute, actually, he was coming to LA, and I was going to New York.
就与可爱的见面而言,实际上,他要去洛杉矶,我要去纽约。
And we were going to miss each other completely.
我们将会彻底想念彼此。
It was like a romantic comedy, but it turned out that my flight back to LA was an hour before his outgoing flight back to New York.
这就像一部浪漫喜剧,但事实证明,我返回洛杉矶的航班比他返回纽约的航班早一个小时。
So it turned out we were going to be in the same terminal at the same time at LAX.
结果我们将在同一时间在洛杉矶国际机场的同一个航站楼。
So he said, wouldn't it be great to meet in the airport again?
于是他说,如果能再次在机场见面,不是很好吗?
Which, of course, was the single most confusing thing that he could possibly say.
当然,这是他可能说的最令人困惑的事情。
Because on the one hand, you know, how fated, how romantic comedy can you get?
因为一方面,你知道,多么有缘分,你能得到多么浪漫的喜剧?
Both at the airport, right?
两人都在机场,对吗?
And then on the other hand, what the hell is he talking about?
另一方面,他到底在说什么?
They've never met.
他们从未见过面。
Well, today on our radio show, we have three stories of mind games, situations where a simple deception goes way out of hand and leads to all kinds of things that it was never intended to lead to.
好吧,今天在我们的广播节目中,我们有三个关于心理游戏的故事,在这些情况下,一个简单的欺骗就会失控,并导致各种意想不到的事情。
You're listening to This American Life , by the way, from Chicago Public Radio.
顺便说一句,您正在收听芝加哥公共广播电台的《美国生活》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Later in our program today, we have the story of self-appointed secret agents going around New York City hoping to serve the forces of good and not evil till things get more emotional than they planned.
在今天晚些时候的节目中,我们讲述了自封的特工在纽约市四处走动的故事,希望为正义而不是邪恶的力量服务,直到事情变得比他们计划的更加情绪化。
And a musician talks about a very unusual, slightly mind-bending request by one of his fans.
一位音乐家谈到了他的一位歌迷提出的一个非常不寻常、有点令人费解的要求。
But before we get any of that, consider what happened to Lori.
但在我们了解这些之前,请考虑一下洛瑞身上发生了什么。
Her travel plans change.
她的旅行计划改变了。
She can't meet the guy at the airport.
她无法在机场见到那个人。
And so instead, she shows up, and she has a drink with him at his hotel.
于是,她出现了,并在他的酒店和他一起喝了一杯。
And the first surprise is he looks nothing, nothing like his picture.
第一个惊喜是他看起来一点也不像他的照片。
And I didn't quite know what to do about that because he looked so unlike his picture that at that point, I wondered if he was actually the guy or if he had sent-- like, he was playing a mind game with me.
我不太知道该怎么办,因为他看起来和照片上的完全不一样,当时我想知道他是否真的是那个人,或者他是否派了——就像,他在和我玩心理游戏。
And he had sent some other guy to kind of go on the date with me.
他还派了其他人来和我约会。
Wow.
哇。
I love how because you're running a con, suddenly you believe everybody's running a con.
我喜欢这样,因为你在进行一场骗局,突然间你相信每个人都在进行一场骗局。
Well, your sense of reality gets turned upside down.
好吧,你的现实感被颠倒了。
It's like you think, I'm an honest person, and I did this.
就像你想的那样,我是一个诚实的人,我就这么做了。
So who knows what other people are doing?
那么谁知道其他人在做什么呢?
So she sits there.
所以她坐在那里。
And the longer she sits there, the more that she could see that, yes, when he turns his head this particular way, he probably is the guy in the photo.
她坐在那里的时间越长,她就越能看到,是的,当他以这种特殊的方式转动头部时,他可能就是照片中的那个人。
Not that that helps anything.
并不是说这有任何帮助。
She is not liking the real him, not attracted.
她不喜欢真正的他,不被吸引。
And because I'm not interested, I'm kind of deciding, do I need to even tell him that I made this up?
因为我不感兴趣,所以我在决定,我是否需要告诉他这是我编造的?
Or can I just leave?
或者我可以离开吗?
Oh, right.
哦,对了。
Lori Gottlieb He doesn't need to know that I made up the story.
洛里·戈特利布 他不需要知道这个故事是我编造的。
But then, on the other hand, it was sort of strange because he kept talking about our encounter in the airport.
但另一方面,这有点奇怪,因为他一直在谈论我们在机场的遭遇。
And it was kind of frustrating to me because I felt like, why is he doing this?
这让我有点沮丧,因为我觉得,他为什么要这么做?
I couldn't understand why he would do this.
我无法理解他为什么要这样做。
It wasn't just that he had seen my letter and kind of went with it.
这不仅仅是因为他看到了我的信并且同意了。
It was like he then took the letter to a whole new level of deception.
就好像他把这封信的欺骗程度提升到了一个全新的水平。
First he said, when I met him at the bar-- the first thing he said to me was, oh, I recognized you immediately.
首先他说,当我在酒吧遇见他时——他对我说的第一句话是,哦,我立刻认出了你。
You look exactly the same as you did in the airport.
你看起来和在机场时一模一样。
Then, when we were talking, he'd come up-- he'd just, like, pepper the conversation with all these little lies, like he said that when we were in the airport, he remembered that I was confused about what I wanted to do with my life.
然后,当我们谈话时,他走了过来——他只是在谈话中撒满了这些小谎言,就像他说当我们在机场时,他记得我对自己想做什么感到困惑。
So he says to me-- you know, the bar closes.
所以他对我说——你知道,酒吧关门了。
And he says, do you want to come up and continue talking?
他说,你想上来继续说话吗?
And I wanted to leave really badly at that point.
那时我真的很想离开。
But because I'd been there for so many hours, I thought, I cannot leave and not find out, not get to the bottom of this story.
但我想,因为我已经在那里呆了好几个小时了,所以我不能离开而不去发现、不去探究这个故事的真相。
And I feel so guilty at this point that I really feel like I have to come clean.
此时我感到非常内疚,我真的觉得我必须坦白。
Right.
正确的。
Lori Gottlieb So I go upstairs.
Lori Gottlieb 所以我上楼了。
And I say to him, you know, I have to tell you, I really don't think that you're the guy from the airport.
我对他说,你知道,我必须告诉你,我真的不认为你是机场的那个人。
It's been really nice meeting you, but you're not the guy.
很高兴认识你,但你不是那个人。
And he says, no, no, no. I am.
他说,不,不,不。我是。
And he's very insistent about it.
他对此非常坚持。
And it's sort of like once he had his own position, he didn't want to change his position.
这有点像一旦他有了自己的立场,他就不想改变自己的立场。
So I say to him, you know, actually, it really wasn't you because I made the whole thing up.
所以我对他说,你知道,实际上,这真的不是你,因为整件事都是我编造的。
And he is stunned into silence.
他震惊地陷入了沉默。
And I think, oh, god.
我想,哦,上帝。
He thinks I'm a freak.
他认为我是个怪胎。
And I'm sitting there thinking, I just want to crawl into a hole right now.
我坐在那里想,我现在只想爬进洞里。
I should never have told him the truth.
我不应该告诉他真相。
And then he just looks at me very calmly and says, no, you didn't.
然后他只是非常平静地看着我说,不,你没有。
I remember this.
我记得这个。
And I look at him like, what is he doing?
我看着他,他在做什么?
I can't imagine what he's doing.
我无法想象他在做什么。
Why is he doing that?
他为什么要这么做?
Is he trying to save face for me?
他是想给我留面子吗?
And he wasn't, like, sort of excited about it.
他对此并不感到兴奋。
He was, like, cool as a cucumber.
他就像黄瓜一样冷静。
He was like, no. It happened.
他说,不。它发生了。
I remember.
我记得。
And it was like it made me seem crazy.
就好像这让我看起来很疯狂。
Yeah.
是的。
Lori Gottlieb You know, like, all of a sudden, you know how you appear crazier when you're trying to prove to somebody that you're not crazy?
Lori Gottlieb 你知道,就像,突然之间,你知道当你试图向别人证明你没有疯时,你是如何显得更疯狂的吗?
Yes.
是的。
Lori Gottlieb And basically, I said, look, I got to go.
Lori Gottlieb 基本上,我说,听着,我得走了。
And oddly, then he said at the door, he's like, can I kiss you?
奇怪的是,然后他在门口说,他说,我可以吻你吗?
And I just gave him my cheek.
我只是把脸颊给了他。
And then he gave me his card.
然后他给了我他的名片。
And I left.
然后我就离开了。
But there are only two possibilities.
但只有两种可能。
Either he actually believes that he met you or he knows he didn't.
他要么真的相信他见过你,要么他知道他没有见过你。
Right?
正确的?
Right.
正确的。
But let's say that he believed that he met me.
但假设他相信他遇见了我。
Reverse the situation.
扭转局势。
If somebody said to me, you know, I think I met you in the airport, and I believed them, and then they said, I made it all up, I would believe them.
如果有人对我说,你知道,我想我在机场遇见了你,我相信他们,然后他们说,这一切都是我编的,我会相信他们。
I would say, oh, huh.
我会说,哦,呵呵。
You know, I thought that actually you were telling the truth.
你知道吗,我以为你说的是实话。
But if you say you made it up, you must have made it up.
但如果你说你弥补了,那你一定是弥补了。
Like, what would be my motive for telling him I made the whole thing up?
比如,我告诉他整件事都是我编造的,动机是什么?
Yeah.
是的。
I find that very convincing, actually.
事实上,我觉得这非常有说服力。
I wasn't actually sure what I thought up until you said that.
在你这么说之前我真的不确定我的想法。
But actually, now I actually believe that he completely knew that he was lying.
但事实上,现在我确实相信他完全知道自己在撒谎。
I actually believe there's no chance that he actually thought he met you.
我实际上相信他不可能真的认为他遇见了你。
There's no reason for him not to believe me except for the fact that I've already established myself as a liar because I'm telling him I lied and sent you this note that was a complete lie.
他没有理由不相信我,除了我已经证明自己是个骗子这一事实,因为我告诉他我撒了谎,并向你发送了这张完全是谎言的便条。
I love how this started off as, like, this innocent little romantic lie.
我喜欢这一切的开始,就像这个天真浪漫的小谎言。
And then, before it's done, you yourself are caught up in this whole world of where you can't even figure out how to convince him, and you can't figure out why he's saying what he's saying.
然后,在事情完成之前,你自己就陷入了这个世界,你甚至不知道如何说服他,也不知道他为什么要这么说。
Like, your mind is so messed with by the end of this story.
就像,在这个故事结束时你的思绪已经混乱了。
Yeah.
是的。
I don't know what to make of it.
我不知道该怎么办。
I mean, years later, I don't know what to make of it.
我的意思是,几年后,我不知道该怎么办。
It's this thing that I sort of-- whatever went on in that room that night, it's like it stayed with me for so many years because it was so confusing to me.
这就是我的感觉——无论那天晚上那个房间里发生了什么,它就像陪伴了我很多年,因为它对我来说太令人困惑了。
Lori Gottlieb.
洛瑞·戈特利布。
She's the author of "Marry Him-- The Case of Settling for Mr. Good Enough." She's now a psychotherapist in Los Angeles.
她是《嫁给他——嫁给足够好的先生》一书的作者。她现在是洛杉矶的一名心理治疗师。
Act Two, The Spy Who Loved Everyone.
第二幕,爱所有人的间谍。
We have this story of good intentions and where they lead from Jorge Just.
我们有一个关于豪尔赫·贾斯特(Jorge Just)良好意愿的故事以及他们的带领。
It's a Saturday in January, dead of winter, a crowded subway car, New York City.
这是一月的一个星期六,严冬,纽约市地铁车厢里拥挤不堪。
"Stand clear of the closing doors, please."
“请远离正在关闭的门。”
At the Canal Street Station, a guy walks onto the car.
在运河街车站,一个人走上车。
He's wearing a hat, gloves, scarf, and coat, but no pants.
他戴着帽子、手套、围巾和外套,但没有穿裤子。
At the next stop, Spring Street, someone else gets on with no pants.
在下一站,春天街,另一个人没穿裤子上车。
This continues for a half dozen stops.
这种情况持续了六站。
The car's filling up with pantsless people who don't seem to know or even notice each other.
车里挤满了光着裤子的人,他们似乎互不认识,甚至没有注意到对方。
Reactions vary.
反应各不相同。
Some riders avert their eyes.
一些骑手移开目光。
Some laugh out loud.
有些人笑出声来。
Some stare, turn away, stare again.
有些人盯着看,转过身去,再盯着看。
Finally at 33rd Street, somebody new comes through the car.
终于在第 33 街,车里来了一个新人。
It's a vendor.
这是一个供应商。
She's selling pants.
她是卖裤子的。
"Short pants!
“短裤!
Medium pants.
中号裤子。
Anyone need pants?
有人需要裤子吗?
$1."
1 美元。”
It won't shock you to know that this whole scene was staged.
如果你知道这整个场景都是上演的,你不会感到震惊。
The pantsless people are part of a group called Improv Everywhere led by a New Yorker named Charlie Todd.
这些脱裤子的人是一个名为“Improv Everywhere”的组织的成员,该组织由一位名叫查理·托德的纽约人领导。
He pulls stunts like this all over New York.
他在纽约到处表演这样的特技。
He calls them missions.
他称之为使命。
The people that carry them out are called agents.
执行这些任务的人称为代理人。
Here's how Charlie explains it.
查理是这样解释的。
It's always hard for me to describe it because I always want to use the word prank.
我总是很难描述它,因为我总是想用恶作剧这个词。
But prank always has that negative connotation of in order for there to be a prank, there has to be a victim, somebody who has been fooled and has been embarrassed or humiliated or had the best of.
但恶作剧总是具有负面含义,为了恶作剧的发生,必须有一个受害者,一个被愚弄并感到尴尬或羞辱或得到最好的人。
And what we try to do is really the opposite.
而我们试图做的恰恰相反。
We try to make people happy.
我们努力让人们快乐。
For Charlie, happy means fun, and fun means making strange things happen in boring locations.
对于查理来说,快乐意味着有趣,而有趣意味着在无聊的地方发生奇怪的事情。
Take mission 27, the Mobius.
以任务 27 莫比乌斯环为例。
The Mobius mission was a time loop in a Starbucks.
莫比乌斯任务是星巴克的时间循环。
It worked like this.
它是这样工作的。
Charlie and six friends choreographed a five-minute sequence of events to repeat over and over again.
查理和六个朋友精心设计了一系列五分钟的事件,并一遍又一遍地重复。
They planned it at a Starbucks, and they performed it at another, the one across the street.
他们在一家星巴克计划好了,然后又在街对面的另一家星巴克进行了实施。
Each agent had their own action.
每个特工都有自己的行动。
Charlie and his girlfriend started off.
查理和他的女朋友出发了。
They walk in and get in line.
他们走进去并排队。
Charlie notices a pack of cigarettes in her purse and confronts her about her smoking.
查理注意到她的钱包里有一包香烟,并质问她抽烟的事。
She says, don't tell me what to do, and storms out of the Starbucks.
她说,别告诉我该怎么做,然后冲出了星巴克。
And I run out after her yelling her name-- "Katie, come back." And then, four minutes later, we walk back into Starbucks, get in line again.
我跑出去追随她,喊着她的名字——“凯蒂,回来。”然后,四分钟后,我们走回星巴克,再次排队。
And so that's our loop.
这就是我们的循环。
Agent number three spills his water, stands up, gets napkins, comes back to clean up the mess, and repeats.
三号特工把水洒了,站起来,拿餐巾,回来收拾残局,然后重复。
That's his loop.
这就是他的循环。
Agent number four answers a phone call, walks to the window for better reception, then goes back to his chair.
四号特工接听电话,走到窗口以获得更好的接收效果,然后回到椅子上。
Agent number five gets up to go to the bathroom, decides the line is too long, returns to his seat.
五号特工起身去洗手间,发现队伍太长,然后回到座位。
Agent number six simply sneezes at a precise moment.
六号特工只是在某个特定的时刻打了个喷嚏。
And the capper was my friend Ken would walk through the Starbucks with a boom box playing "Shiny, Happy People" by REM.
最重要的是我的朋友 Ken 拿着音箱在星巴克里散步,播放着 REM 的《Shiny, Happy People》。
And he would walk in one door, go through the entire restaurant, walk out the other door.
他会走进一扇门,穿过整个餐厅,然后走出另一扇门。
We repeated that sequence 12 times in a row, for an hour total.
我们连续重复这个序列 12 次,总共一个小时。
Charlie says that for the first few repetitions, nobody noticed a thing.
查理说,在最初的几次重复中,没有人注意到任何事情。
It was the argument between Charlie and his girlfriend that finally caught people's attention.
查理和女友之间的争吵终于引起了人们的注意。
By, like, the third or fourth time that I had run out the Starbucks chasing after my girlfriend, people were starting to say, like, well, if I was him, I'd just break up with her.
就好像,当我第三次或第四次跑出星巴克追女朋友时,人们开始说,好吧,如果我是他,我就会和她分手。
But it wasn't that they thought that they were in a time loop.
但这并不是说他们认为自己处于时间循环之中。
It was that they thought that we really just kept getting into a fight.
他们认为我们真的只是一直在吵架。
And then by, like, the fifth and sixth time that we did it, people kind of started to get freaked out.
然后,就像我们第五次和第六次这样做时,人们开始感到害怕。
There was one woman in particular who we had on the hidden camera who called her friend and said, "you have to come down here.
我们在隐藏摄像机上拍到了一位女士,她打电话给她的朋友说:“你必须来这里。
I'm at the Starbucks in Astor Place.
我在阿斯特广场的星巴克。
I don't know what's going on."
我不知道发生了什么事。”
I don't know if you've ever been in a Starbucks, but if you do go, you'll notice lots of people doing the same sort of thing over and over again-- sip the coffee, read the paper, update the blog.
我不知道你是否曾经去过星巴克,但如果你去了,你会发现很多人一遍又一遍地做同样的事情——喝咖啡、读报纸、更新博客。
Stare hard enough, and everyone looks like they're in a time loop.
仔细观察,每个人看起来都像是处于时间循环中。
It took people almost an hour to find the line between staged scene and reality.
人们花了近一个小时才找到舞台场景与现实之间的界限。
By the end of it-- by, like, the 9th and 10th time we're doing it-- the whole Starbucks is talking to each other, participating in this thing.
到最后——就像我们第九次和第十次这样做——整个星巴克都在互相交谈,参与这件事。
It's almost as if everybody in that Starbucks felt like they could predict the future.
就好像星巴克里的每个人都觉得他们可以预测未来。
And they started kind of, like, conducting it.
他们开始有点像指挥它。
Like, they would point at Chris and say, "oh, and he's going to sneeze right now.
就像,他们会指着克里斯说:“哦,他现在就要打喷嚏了。
And here comes the boom box guy again.
音箱家伙又来了。
And oh, that means the couple's coming back.
哦,这意味着这对夫妇要回来了。
And there they are!" And then, after the 12th time, we just left.
他们就在那里!”然后,第12次之后,我们就离开了。
In a way, this might be the most surprising part of the Mobius mission.
在某种程度上,这可能是莫比乌斯任务中最令人惊讶的部分。
After going to that much trouble just to provide a roomful of strangers with an unforgettable memory, the members of Improv Everywhere get up and they leave, and not just because you can't close a curtain on a coffee shop time loop.
费了那么大的劲,只是为了给一屋子的陌生人留下难忘的回忆,Improv Everywhere 的成员们起身离开,不仅仅是因为你无法关上咖啡店时间循环的窗帘。
Charlie posts pictures and descriptions of the missions on his website, but that's as close as he gets to a standing ovation.
查理在他的网站上发布了任务的图片和描述,但这已经是他获得起立鼓掌的最接近的了。
He's got loftier goals, anyway.
不管怎样,他有更崇高的目标。
I want to live in a world where anything can happen.
我想生活在一个一切皆有可能发生的世界里。
I guess what I mean by that is-- I don't know.
我想我的意思是——我不知道。
I guess we shouldn't have to rely on, like, television or movies to show us fantastic things and fantastic stories.
我想我们不应该依赖电视或电影来向我们展示奇妙的事物和奇妙的故事。
Let's attempt to bring some of that excitement to the real world, I guess.
我想,让我们尝试将一些兴奋带入现实世界。
Charlie's missions are cool, but it's his objective that's intriguing-- to create fun, inexplicable experiences for random strangers.
查理的任务很酷,但他的目标更有趣——为随机的陌生人创造有趣、莫名其妙的体验。
It's like giving people a small, unexpected gift and, in the process, making the world seem a bit more enchanted.
这就像给人们一份意想不到的小礼物,并在此过程中让世界看起来更加迷人。
But as anyone who's read a children's book can attest, mess with the forces of enchantment and things can go terribly, terribly wrong.
但正如任何读过儿童读物的人都可以证明的那样,扰乱魔法的力量,事情可能会变得非常非常错误。
And that's what happened with a mission Charlie calls the Best Gig Ever.
这就是查理称之为“有史以来最好的演出”的任务所发生的事情。
The Best Gig Ever, an idea.
有史以来最好的演出,一个想法。
My friend Mark Lee came up to me one night.
一天晚上,我的朋友马克·李来找我。
And he came up to me and said, let's find a rock band, a struggling rock band, and give them the greatest gig of their life.
他走到我面前说,让我们找一支摇滚乐队,一支苦苦挣扎的摇滚乐队,为他们提供一生中最伟大的演出。
So I researched on the internet for the next couple of weeks trying to find the perfect gig, the perfect band who I knew was setting themselves up for just a horrible audience.
因此,接下来的几周我在互联网上进行了研究,试图找到完美的演出,我知道这支完美的乐队正在为一群可怕的观众做好准备。
And I found this band, Ghosts of Pasha, from Vermont.
我找到了来自佛蒙特州的“Ghosts of Pasha”乐队。
Never heard of them before.
以前从未听说过他们。
Nobody in New York had probably heard of them apart from their friends because it was their first tour ever.
除了他们的朋友之外,纽约可能没有人听说过他们,因为这是他们第一次巡演。
And they had just recorded some songs this summer, and they were gonna tour in October.
他们今年夏天刚刚录制了一些歌曲,并计划在十月进行巡演。
And they were playing a gig in New York on Friday night at 8 o'clock for a $5 cover.
周五晚上 8 点,他们在纽约举行了一场演出,票价为 5 美元。
Then they had a gig two nights later on Sunday night at the Mercury Lounge for an $8 cover at 10 PM.
然后,他们在两天后的周日晚上 10 点在 Mercury Lounge 举办了一场演出,票价为 8 美元。
So I knew, even if they had friends in New York, those friends would come to the Friday night show, and they would not come back.
所以我知道,即使他们在纽约有朋友,那些朋友也会来看周五晚上的演出,而且他们不会回来。
No matter how good the show was, they're not coming out at 10 o'clock on a Sunday night to support their friends again.
无论节目有多精彩,他们都不会再在周日晚上 10 点出来支持他们的朋友了。
Charlie recruited 35 agents to act as hardcore Ghosts of Pasha fans.
查理招募了 35 名特工,充当《帕夏幽灵》的铁杆粉丝。
They downloaded the six songs on the band's website, and they memorized the lyrics.
他们在乐队的网站上下载了六首歌,并记住了歌词。
Some agents made T-shirts and temporary tattoos using the Ghosts of Pasha logo.
一些特工使用帕夏幽灵标志制作了 T 恤和临时纹身。
They timed their arrival, getting to the club as the next-to-last band was getting off the stage.
他们按时到达,在倒数第二支乐队走下舞台时到达俱乐部。
People entered separately or in pairs, didn't act like we knew each other.
人们单独或成对地进入,表现得不像我们彼此认识。
And by the time they were doing their sound check, all of us were in the room.
当他们进行声音检查时,我们所有人都在房间里。
Not only were they getting ready to perform, we were getting ready to perform, too.
不仅他们准备表演,我们也准备表演。
And everybody from the previous gig had left.
上一场演出的所有人都离开了。
They had three paying customers that night not counting us.
那天晚上他们有三个付费顾客(不包括我们)。
But instead, they had 38-- the 35 of us and the three paying customers.
但相反,他们有 38 个人——我们 35 个人和三个付费顾客。
And once they got on stage and said, hello, Mercury Lounge or whatever they said, we definitely exploded.
一旦他们上台说,你好,水星休息室或者他们说的任何话,我们肯定爆炸了。
We're Ghosts of Pasha.
我们是帕夏的幽灵。
[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]
[欢呼和掌声]
You're listening to footage from a video camera that one of Charlie's friends snuck into the Mercury.
您正在聆听查理的一位朋友潜入水星号的摄像机的镜头。
The club was dark, and the camera was hidden in a bag.
俱乐部里很黑,相机藏在包里。
At first, you can't make anything out, but then the camera goes into night-vision mode, and it's all there in black and pale green and white.
起初,你看不到任何东西,但随后相机进入夜视模式,一切都是黑色、浅绿色和白色。
35 people isn't much of a crowd, but somehow, they make it seem like the place is packed.
35 个人并不算多,但不知何故,他们让这个地方看起来挤满了人。
I sat and watched the video with Charlie, who pointed out his favorite moments and showed me how the agents reacted to the music in their own particular ways, some pushing to the front, others hanging back.
我坐下来和查理一起观看视频,他指出了他最喜欢的时刻,并向我展示了特工们如何以自己独特的方式对音乐做出反应,一些人推到前面,另一些人则退缩。
He points out another guy near the front of the stage.
他指着舞台前面的另一个人。
He's dancing spastically, flinging his arms, shaking to the music.
他随着音乐痉挛般地跳舞,挥舞着手臂,颤抖着。
At a show, there is always that one guy who's dancing too much.
在一场演出中,总有一个人跳得太多。
And the guy we're looking at now, he's that guy.
我们现在看到的那个人,就是那个人。
You know?
你知道?
So it's appropriate.
所以这是合适的。
We're not all doing it, but he is.
我们不是都这么做,但他是。
Charlie spends most of the show taking pictures.
查理在演出的大部分时间里都在拍照。
Each rock crowd has one of those kids, too.
每个摇滚人群中也有一个这样的孩子。
But at a certain moment, even he gets swept up in the excitement and starts acting more like he does when he's seeing his favorite band, The Cure.
但在某个时刻,即使是他也被兴奋所笼罩,并开始表现得更像他看到他最喜欢的乐队 The Cure 时的样子。
And then I will say that at this moment right here, I am definitely, like, into the show.
然后我会说,此时此刻,我绝对喜欢这个节目。
We were requesting songs.
我们要求歌曲。
You know, we only knew the names of, like, six songs because they only had six songs on their EP, which they had on their website.
你知道,我们只知道六首歌的名称,因为他们的 EP 中只有六首歌,而他们的网站上有这些歌曲。
And I was screaming for-- they have a song called "What About the Shut-Ins." It's like [SINGING] what about the shut-ins of the Second World War?
我尖叫着——他们有一首歌叫“关门怎么办”。就像[唱歌]第二次世界大战期间的封锁怎么样?
And I was screaming for "Shut-Ins." I just yelling, "Shut-Ins!" "Shut-Ins!"
我尖叫着要“关门”。我只是大喊:“关门!” “关门!”
And they played it.
他们就玩了。
I think probably coincidentally, they were playing it next in the set.
我想可能很巧合,他们在接下来的比赛中演奏了它。
And I just went crazy when they started.
当他们开始的时候我简直要疯了。
When I heard the first notes, I was like, yeah!
当我听到第一个音符时,我想,是啊!
I got my request.
我收到了我的请求。
Jorge Just Where is the difference in really, really being into a band and pretending to be really into a band?
Jorge 只是真正真正喜欢一支乐队和假装真正喜欢一支乐队有什么区别?
Yeah, there's not much difference for that night.
是的,那天晚上没有太大区别。
It felt just like I was at a Cure show singing along to "Just Like Heaven." You know, I was at Ghost of Pasha singing along to "What About the Shut-Ins." Whatever.
感觉就像我在 Cure 表演中跟着“Just Like Heaven”一起唱。你知道,我在《帕夏之魂》里跟着唱《关门者怎么样》。任何。
It was the same thing, basically.
基本上,这是同一件事。
[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] [CROWD CHANTING "PASHA"]
[欢呼和掌声] [人群高呼“帕夏”]
Thanks a lot.
非常感谢。
Audience, audience, audience, audience!
观众,观众,观众,观众!
The band gets offstage, and Charlie and company leave the bar to go celebrate another mission accomplished.
乐队走下舞台,查理和同伴离开酒吧去庆祝另一项任务的完成。
A couple of days later, he puts up pictures and reports of the evening on his website.
几天后,他在自己的网站上发布了当晚的照片和报道。
Charlie figured the band would find his page in a month or two.
查理估计乐队会在一两个月内找到他的页面。
It's basically inevitable once he's posted everything online.
一旦他将所有内容发布到网上,这基本上是不可避免的。
What he wasn't sure of is how they would react.
他不确定他们会如何反应。
When I would tell people this idea, like, as I was preparing for this event, one of the main responses I got was people saying, like, that is so cruel.
当我告诉人们这个想法时,就像我正在为这次活动做准备一样,我得到的主要反应之一是人们说,这太残酷了。
You know, what's going to happen when this band does their next gig in New York City and nobody shows up?
你知道,当这支乐队在纽约举行下一场演出而没有人出现时会发生什么?
That is the cruelest thing I've ever heard.
这是我听过的最残酷的事情。
And I just-- I really don't buy into that logic.
我只是——我真的不相信这种逻辑。
I think-- I mean, it's kind of an interesting thing to think about.
我认为——我的意思是,这是一件值得思考的有趣的事情。
Like, is it cruel to give somebody the best day of their life just because they'll never have another day like that again?
比如,仅仅因为某人再也不会拥有这样的一天,就给他们生命中最美好的一天,这是否残忍?
And I don't think so.
我不这么认为。
I mean, it's kind of like you have a wonderful dream, and you wake up.
我的意思是,这有点像你做了一个美妙的梦,然后你就醒了。
And do you wish you just had bad dreams every night?
你希望每晚都做噩梦吗?
And I think it's great to have wonderful dreams.
我认为拥有美好的梦想真是太好了。
And yeah, it kind of sucks for a second.
是的,这有点糟糕。
But you always have that moment.
但你总有那一刻。
We got punked.
我们被朋克了。
That show at the Mercury Lounge was a fake.
水星休息室的那场演出是假的。
And it just seemed like a blow.
这看起来像是一个打击。
Like, it was like a blow to my heart.
就像,这对我的心来说是一个打击。
This is Chris Partyka, the guitarist of Ghosts of Pasha.
我是 Chris Partyka,Ghosts of Pasha 的吉他手。
It turns out that finding Charlie's website was a bit worse than waking from a dream, and it happened faster than Charlie expected.
事实证明,找到查理的网站比从梦中醒来还要糟糕一些,而且事情发生的速度比查理预想的要快。
Lead singer Milo Finch found out only three days after the show.
主唱米洛·芬奇在演出三天后就发现了这一消息。
His discovery was a disturbing capper to an already long and bizarre few days.
他的发现给已经漫长而奇怪的几天带来了令人不安的结束。
To understand how weird this was for the band, you need to hear the story from their perspective.
要了解这对乐队来说有多么奇怪,你需要从他们的角度来听听这个故事。
They hadn't even wanted to play the Mercury show in the first place.
他们一开始甚至不想参加水星秀。
They were exhausted.
他们已经筋疲力尽了。
They'd just driven from Vermont to Boston for a show Thursday, and to New York for a show on Friday.
他们星期四刚从佛蒙特州开车去波士顿参加一场演出,周五又开车去纽约参加一场演出。
Ezra, the drummer, and Brad, the bassist, had then driven the six hours back to Vermont on Saturday, and then turned around and returned Sunday.
周六,鼓手埃兹拉和贝斯手布拉德开车六个小时回到佛蒙特州,然后周日返回。
Milo stayed in New York, but he'd been up all night partying.
米洛留在纽约,但他彻夜不眠地参加派对。
I remember being on the street before the Mercury Lounge show completely exhausted, just sitting on the street waiting to play.
我记得在 Mercury Lounge 演出之前我在街上已经筋疲力尽了,只是坐在街上等待演出。
We didn't even want to do it.
我们甚至不想这样做。
But you know, I remember just sitting there.
但你知道,我记得我只是坐在那里。
And it was pretty dead.
它已经死了。
And we thought it was just gonna be dead.
我们以为它快要死了。
And we were like, cool.
我们觉得,很酷。
It'll be dead.
它会死的。
We can just go up there and play and just get out of here.
我们可以去那里玩,然后离开这里。
Get it over with.
快点结束吧。
Jorge Just It turns out that the band Charlie picked wasn't just obscure.
豪尔赫只是事实证明查理选择的乐队不仅仅是默默无闻。
It was practically brand new.
它几乎是全新的。
They'd only been together a couple of months.
他们才在一起几个月。
This was their fourth show ever, the third on their tour.
这是他们有史以来的第四场演出,也是巡演中的第三场。
It was really weird because we knew this was our third show.
这真的很奇怪,因为我们知道这是我们的第三场演出。
I remember turning to the drummer, to Ezra, and being like, what's going on?
我记得转向鼓手、以斯拉,然后问,发生了什么事?
Like, in the middle of a song, like a drum break.
就像在歌曲中间,就像鼓声响起。
What started weird soon got weirder.
开始奇怪的事情很快就变得更奇怪了。
Keep in mind, they hadn't put out an album.
请记住,他们还没有发行专辑。
Nobody anywhere had ever heard of them.
任何地方都没有人听说过他们。
But somehow, a crowd of New Yorkers knew their lyrics.
但不知何故,一群纽约人知道他们的歌词。
The first song we noticed it was in "New York, New York." It's one of our songs, and right off the bat is the chorus.
我们注意到的第一首歌是“纽约,纽约”。这是我们的一首歌,马上就是副歌。
And they came right in with it.
他们马上就进来了。
Like, I think they came in with it on better timing than I did.
就像,我认为他们比我来得更及时。
They came right in.
他们就进来了。
And they nailed it.
他们成功了。
[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] Honestly, it was really odd.
[欢呼和掌声]说实话,这真的很奇怪。
I mean, there was moments where guys were ripping off their shirts and swinging them over their heads in, like, a helicopter fashion.
我的意思是,有些时候,人们会扯下衬衫并将其在头顶上晃来晃去,就像直升机一样。
There were girls that were pointing at the stage and interacting with me as we were pointing back.
当我们向后指时,有一些女孩指着舞台并与我互动。
It was just-- it was bedlam.
简直是——简直是一片混乱。
The exclamation point on the whole evening for me was how creepy it was when the guy jumped up on stage with no shirt.
对我来说整个晚上的感叹号是当那个家伙赤身裸体跳上舞台时是多么令人毛骨悚然。
And I just remember him being up front the whole time punching the air and spinning in circles, and he was all sweaty.
我只记得他一直在前面打拳、旋转,浑身是汗。
And he jumped up on stage at the end of the last song and hugged me.
最后一首歌结束时他跳上舞台拥抱了我。
He's all sweaty and clammy.
他满身大汗,浑身湿冷。
And he's like, thank you.
他说,谢谢。
Like, he just kept saying thank you in my ear.
就像,他只是一直在我耳边说谢谢。
And I was just like, all right.
我当时就想,好吧。
Thank you.
谢谢。
Agent V.
特工V。
Milo Finch Yeah, Agent V.
米洛·芬奇 是的,特工 V。
He seemed like he wasn't really acting, just getting it out, you know?
他看起来并不是真的在演戏,只是把事情说出来,你知道吗?
The band got into it, too.
乐队也加入其中。
Milo's favorite moment came at the end of the set.
米洛最喜欢的时刻是在比赛结束时。
During the solo in "Power Bitch," I had kind of just laid on the stage.
在“Power Bitch”的独奏期间,我有点躺在舞台上。
And the crowd rushed the stage and was grabbing my hands like this because I was right on the lip of the stage.
人群冲上舞台,像这样抓住我的手,因为我就在舞台边缘。
And I put the microphone out into the audience, and they were screaming and grabbing at my hand and touching the microphone.
我把麦克风放在观众席上,他们尖叫着抓住我的手,触摸麦克风。
And I made sure I slapped every hand that came up, just so no one felt like they didn't get it.
我确保我拍了每一只举起的手,这样就没有人觉得他们没有明白。
And however the act was going on or whatever they were pulling or whatever they were doing, I felt that at that point in the show, we answered it back with something real.
无论表演正在进行,无论他们在做什么,我觉得在节目的那个时刻,我们用一些真实的东西回应了它。
And at that point, everybody in the room was on the same page.
那时,房间里的每个人都达成了共识。
Jorge Just The show was exhausting.
豪尔赫只是这场演出让人筋疲力尽。
They played the tour's first ever encore and left all the energy they had on stage.
他们演奏了巡演的第一场安可曲,并将所有的精力都留在了舞台上。
Like Milo said, when a crowd screams at you like you're The Beatles, you act like you're The Beatles.
就像米洛说的,当一群人像披头士乐队一样对你尖叫时,你表现得就像披头士乐队一样。
Only this crowd stopped screaming the moment the last notes were played.
只有当最后一个音符响起时,这群人停止了尖叫。
Chris remembers unplugging his amp, looking up, and being shocked that the place was empty.
克里斯记得拔掉扩音器的插头,抬起头,惊讶地发现这个地方是空的。
Ghosts of Pasha were suddenly alone.
帕夏的鬼魂突然变得孤单。
I remember we were all standing out on the street smoking our cigarette after the show, and totally confused.
我记得演出结束后我们都站在街上抽烟,完全感到困惑。
Oh, yeah.
哦,是的。
Milo Finch Kind of speechless for a little bit.
米洛·芬奇有点无语。
I think I remember Brad broke the silence.
我想我记得布拉德打破了沉默。
He's always good for breaking the silence.
他总是善于打破沉默。
He was like, what the [BLEEP] just happened?
他当时想,刚刚发生了什么[BLEEP]?
What the hell was that, I think was the-- what the hell was that?
那到底是什么,我想——那到底是什么?
As he was lighting his cigarette.
当他点燃香烟时。
It was just creepy.
真是令人毛骨悚然。
You know, we just had nothing in our heads, so we just decided to fill it with, well, OK.
你知道,我们脑子里什么都没有,所以我们决定用,好吧,来填补它。
We're really excited, and we're in a really good mood.
我们真的很兴奋,心情也很好。
So this is great.
所以这很棒。
Finally, 35 people from New York City randomly came to our show and knew our words and stuff.
最后,来自纽约市的 35 个人随机来到我们的节目并了解我们的话语和内容。
And that's a good feeling.
这是一种很好的感觉。
You know what it was?
你知道那是什么吗?
I think some of the talking was we were addicted to it.
我认为有些人谈论的是我们对此上瘾了。
We were like, that felt really cool.
我们当时想,这感觉真的很酷。
Let's play like that all the time.
让我们一直这样玩吧。
Let's get shows like that all the time.
让我们一直看到这样的节目吧。
That warm feeling lasted exactly three days, until somebody emailed them a link to Charlie's site.
这种温暖的感觉持续了整整三天,直到有人通过电子邮件向他们发送了查理网站的链接。
The band met up at the local computer lab and read it together.
乐队在当地的计算机实验室见面并一起阅读。
The next 48 hours were the worst.
接下来的48小时是最糟糕的。
Email poured in mocking Ghosts of Pasha.
电子邮件纷纷涌来,嘲笑帕夏的幽灵。
Their website's bulletin board was flooded with people making fun of them.
他们网站的公告牌上挤满了取笑他们的人。
It got so bad they had to shut it down.
情况变得如此糟糕,他们不得不将其关闭。
The band felt like the butt of a big joke.
乐队感觉就像是一个大笑话的笑柄。
They struggled to take it all in stride, but inevitably, one member would get mad, and the others would have to talk him down.
他们很难从容应对这一切,但不可避免的是,其中一名成员会生气,而其他人则不得不劝说他。
A couple of hours later, they'd be on the phone with each other again, making each other angry, calming each other down.
几个小时后,他们又会通电话,让对方生气,又让对方平静下来。
The guitarist, Chris Partyka, was most affected.
吉他手克里斯·帕蒂卡 (Chris Partyka) 受到的影响最大。
He got teased a lot as a kid, which is why he started playing music in the first place.
他小时候经常被嘲笑,这就是他开始演奏音乐的原因。
It was something he could do by himself in his room, where nobody could make fun of him.
这是他一个人可以在自己的房间里做的事情,没有人可以取笑他。
News of the prank hit Chris pretty hard.
恶作剧的消息对克里斯打击很大。
It's the worst thing I could possibly think of ever happening to me in my life because I'd been avoiding confrontation my whole life so I wouldn't get made fun of.
这是我一生中能想到的最糟糕的事情,因为我一生都在避免对抗,这样我就不会被嘲笑。
And the moment I decide that I want to try and be real and do what I really want to do, all of a sudden, it's reacted in the same way as it was when I was in kindergarten.
当我决定尝试做真实的事情并做我真正想做的事情时,突然之间,它的反应就像我在幼儿园时一样。
And it's just like, what is the difference?
就像,有什么区别?
You know?
你知道?
I'm 30 years old now, and I'm still getting made fun of by people.
我现在30岁了,还是被人取笑。
Knowing all this, it's surprising how Chris feels about it now, six months after it happened.
了解这一切后,在事情发生六个月后,克里斯现在对此的感受令人惊讶。
It was a gift.
这是一份礼物。
It was the gift of, like, yeah, everything's OK.
这是一份礼物,就像,是的,一切都好。
At this point, I don't really feel like anything can hurt me because I've dealt with what I've never thought that I could deal with before.
在这一点上,我真的不觉得有什么可以伤害我,因为我已经处理了我以前从未想过可以处理的事情。
It was like psychotherapy for my childhood.
这就像我童年时期的心理治疗。
You know what I mean?
你知道我的意思?
Like, everybody in the world look at Chris.
就像,世界上每个人都看着克里斯。
And everyone was like, duh!
每个人都说,呃!
Look at him!
看看他!
Duh!
呃!
You know?
你知道?
And then what am I supposed to do with that but be like, hey, how you doing?
然后我该怎么办,除了说,嘿,你好吗?
I'm Chris.
我是克里斯。
I play the guitar, and I like it.
我弹吉他,我喜欢它。
After mulling it over for a few days, the band decided what to do.
经过几天的考虑,乐队决定采取什么行动。
They wrote into Charlie's website with their own enthusiastic reports of the evening.
他们在查理的网站上写下了自己对当晚的热情报道。
Brad, the bassist, was terse.
贝斯手布拉德很简洁。
Chris, the guitarist, was thoughtful.
吉他手克里斯很周到。
And Milo, the lead singer, was the lead singer.
而主唱米洛则是主唱。
Here's Charlie.
这是查理。
The lead singer was really enthusiastic and upbeat about the whole thing.
主唱对整件事非常热情和乐观。
But you could tell that he definitely had, if not an ego, definitely had a lot of pride in the band and made that clear, too.
但你可以看出,他即使不是自负,也绝对对乐队有很大的自豪感,并且也明确地表达了这一点。
And he had one line in his report that said, like, no matter what happened, we rocked the house that night, and you knew it.
他的报告中有一句话说,无论发生什么,那天晚上我们震撼了整个房子,你知道这一点。
So there were elements of, like, we realize that it was a prank.
所以有一些元素,比如,我们意识到这是一个恶作剧。
But just so you know, we did rock it.
但正如你所知,我们确实摇滚了它。
And I agree with him.
我同意他的观点。
They did.
他们做到了。
They rocked it.
他们震撼了它。
They rocked the show and snatched the opportunity.
他们震撼了演出并抓住了机会。
Bands need publicity, and Ghosts of Pasha knew a happy story sells better than a sad one.
乐队需要宣传,《帕夏之魂》知道快乐的故事比悲伤的故事卖得更好。
And they were right.
他们是对的。
The band was interviewed in Spin magazine.
乐队接受了 Spin 杂志的采访。
An A&R guy gave them a call.
一位 A&R 人员给他们打了电话。
In other words, Ghosts of Pasha played along.
换句话说,帕夏的幽灵也配合了。
They took Charlie's story about what happened that night and made it their own.
他们把查理关于那天晚上发生的事情的故事变成了自己的故事。
But not everybody's ready to make themselves at home in Charlie's world.
但并不是每个人都准备好融入查理的世界。
Some people prefer their life just the way it is.
有些人更喜欢他们现在的生活。
All right.
好的。
My name's Christopher Rawson.
我叫克里斯托弗·罗森。
I am a fine art student going to New York University.
我是一名即将就读纽约大学的美术系学生。
And they basically threw me a fake birthday party.
他们基本上给我举办了一个假生日派对。
The idea was to throw a birthday party for a stranger-- go up to someone in a bar, at random, and act like it was his birthday.
这个想法是为一个陌生人举办一个生日聚会——随机走到酒吧里的某个人面前,表现得好像这是他的生日。
Charlie gathered about 30 Improv Everywhere agents and headed to a bar called Dempsy's to pick the evening star.
Charlie 召集了大约 30 名 Improv Everywhere 特工,前往一家名为 Dempsy's 的酒吧挑选当晚的明星。
He decided on Chris, who was sitting with a friend and a full pitcher of beer.
他选择了克里斯,当时克里斯正和一个朋友坐在一起,手里还拿着满满一壶啤酒。
It looked like they were settling in for the night.
看来他们要安顿下来过夜了。
Charlie called the other agents and described Chris, and then he walked over and started the party.
查理打电话给其他特工并描述了克里斯,然后他走过去开始了聚会。
And I said, hey, Ted.
我说,嘿,特德。
How's it going?
怎么样了?
Sorry we're a little early for your birthday party.
抱歉,您的生日聚会来得太早了。
But thank you for inviting us.
但谢谢你邀请我们。
They came up to me, and they just really addressed me as this other person, as Ted, and were just like, hey, what's up, buddy?
他们走到我面前,真的称呼我为另一个人,泰德,然后说,嘿,怎么了,伙计?
Happy birthday.
生日快乐。
You know, he looks at me.
你知道,他看着我。
And at first, he thinks it's just a case of misunderstanding.
起初,他认为这只是一场误会。
He's like, I'm sorry.
他就像是,我很抱歉。
You got the wrong guy.
你找错人了。
I'm not Ted.
我不是特德。
And I just laughed and said, ah, that's really funny, Ted.
我只是笑着说,啊,这真的很有趣,特德。
You did invite us to your birthday party.
你确实邀请我们参加你的生日聚会。
We got the Evite.
我们得到了埃维特。
A few minutes later, more people started coming in, and everybody was wishing me happy birthday and calling me by Ted.
几分钟后,更多的人开始进来,每个人都祝我生日快乐,并通过特德给我打电话。
And everybody seemed to have this memory or this experience that they had with me in the past, which, obviously, was completely foreign to me.
每个人似乎都有过去和我一起经历过的记忆或经历,显然,这对我来说是完全陌生的。
I had sent out an email to everybody involved with some specifics about this guy, Ted Hine, and said that he was 25 years old, that he went to UNC Chapel Hill, that he worked at Oppenheimer Funds, that his favorite band was Dave Matthews.
我给每个人发了一封电子邮件,详细介绍了泰德·海因这个人,并说他今年 25 岁,就读于北卡罗来纳大学教堂山分校,在奥本海默基金工作,他最喜欢的乐队是戴夫·马修斯。
Like, we came up with all these specifics about him.
就像,我们想出了关于他的所有这些细节。
And I told everybody, pick out what your relationship is to Ted.
我告诉大家,找出你和特德的关系。
Figure out what your story is, and stick to it.
弄清楚你的故事是什么,然后坚持下去。
People were giving me hugs and being like, "oh, I haven't seen you in so long.
人们拥抱我,说:“哦,我已经很久没见到你了。
What have you been up to?" And they had all kind of brought in little gift cards.
你最近在忙什么?”他们还带来了各种各样的小礼品卡。
And on all of them, they said, remember spring break, things relating to school.
他们在所有这些上都说,记住春假,以及与学校有关的事情。
A few of the people thought I worked for some sort of bank or something.
有些人以为我在某种银行或其他什么地方工作。
And he got really freaked out, which I didn't necessarily anticipate.
他真的吓坏了,这是我没有预料到的。
But looking back on it, I guess I probably should have anticipated that that would freak somebody out.
但回想起来,我想我可能应该预料到这会吓坏某人。
I was definitely freaked out and suspicious.
我确实感到害怕和怀疑。
I mean, it seemed very confrontational and very grotesque, even, I would say.
我的意思是,我想说,这看起来非常具有对抗性,而且非常怪诞。
So yeah, it was kind of like a really bad dream.
是的,这有点像一个非常糟糕的梦。
Chris, it turns out, wasn't the brash 25-year-old East Villager that Charlie thought he'd chosen.
事实证明,克里斯并不是查理以为自己选择的那个傲慢的 25 岁东村民。
He was actually a college student, a very young one, who'd recently transferred to NYU.
他实际上是一名大学生,非常年轻,最近刚转学到纽约大学。
If Charlie's the kind of guy who goes out in the world and makes things happen, then Chris is the kind who stays closer to home.
如果说查理是那种走出去,让事情发生的人,那么克里斯就是那种离家更近的人。
He's thoughtful and sensitive and shy.
他体贴、敏感、害羞。
Chris likes to have things in a certain understandable order, and Charlie wasn't part of it.
克里斯喜欢把事情按照某种可以理解的顺序排列,而查理不参与其中。
There was no sense that it was kind of a charade.
没有任何感觉这是一种猜谜游戏。
I mean, it all felt very natural.
我的意思是,这一切都感觉很自然。
It felt really close to reality.
感觉真的很接近现实。
But yet, it was so strange and different that it couldn't be.
但它是如此奇怪和不同,以至于不可能。
So there was definitely the worry, too, on my part, I guess, that I was going insane maybe.
所以我想,我也确实担心我可能会发疯。
Because it made no sense, so I kind of felt like I was losing my mind, in that sense, like, the ability to rationalize what was happening because I really couldn't.
因为这毫无意义,所以我感觉自己正在失去理智,从这个意义上说,就像,有能力合理化正在发生的事情,因为我真的做不到。
He showed them his driver's license, but they laughed it off.
他向他们展示了他的驾驶执照,但他们一笑置之。
And Chris couldn't shake the feeling that a guy named Ted, the real Ted, could show up at any moment to find Chris drinking Ted's free drinks and, even worse, blowing out Ted's candles and eating Ted's cake.
克里斯无法摆脱这样的感觉:一个名叫特德的人,真正的特德,随时可能出现,发现克里斯正在喝特德的免费饮料,更糟糕的是,吹灭特德的蜡烛并吃特德的蛋糕。
But every time he tried to leave, a fake friend would stop him, beg him to stay, buy him a drink.
但每次他试图离开时,一个假朋友都会阻止他,求他留下来,请他喝一杯。
And eventually, he just became Ted.
最终,他变成了特德。
It was pretty much my only option.
这几乎是我唯一的选择。
And I think that was the moment of the shift, was kind of realizing that.
我认为那是转变的时刻,是一种意识到这一点的时刻。
I was like, OK.
我当时想,好吧。
Well, if they all think I'm Ted, then what the hell.
好吧,如果他们都认为我是特德,那又怎么样。
He starts answering to Ted.
他开始回复特德。
He starts introducing himself as Ted to kind of the latecomers.
他开始向迟到的人介绍自己,叫泰德。
And in the end, he was not only just agreeing that he was Ted.
最后,他不仅承认自己是特德。
He was corroborating all of our stories.
他证实了我们所有的故事。
People are like, oh, remember this?
人们会说,哦,还记得这个吗?
And I was like, oh, yeah.
我当时想,哦,是的。
That was great.
那很棒。
What a great time.
多么美好的时光啊。
And just kind of played along with it.
并且只是跟着一起玩。
And I think I just kind of decided that maybe I could, by assuming that identity, have some control or some say in the situation.
我想我只是决定,也许我可以通过假设这个身份,在这种情况下拥有一些控制权或发言权。
It was disappointing at first, to see this guy get freaked out.
一开始我很失望,看到这个家伙被吓坏了。
And I was like, oh, no. My whole idea is to make this guy's night.
我当时想,哦,不。我的全部想法就是让这个家伙度过一个愉快的夜晚。
To watch that transformation to the guy playing pool, doing shots, and getting phone numbers was really a blast to watch.
看着这个打台球、打球、获取电话号码的人的转变真是令人赏心悦目。
And I can't decide in the end whether I picked the perfect guy or whether I picked the worst guy.
我最终无法决定是选择了最完美的人还是选择了最差的人。
There may have been a worse Ted somewhere in the world, but probably not in that bar.
世界上某个地方可能有更糟糕的特德,但可能不在那个酒吧。
Sure, he'd had fun.
当然,他玩得很开心。
He even let them convince him to take the gift cards home.
他甚至让他们说服他把礼品卡带回家。
Chris rose to the challenge and became Ted.
克里斯迎接挑战并成为泰德。
But by the next morning, he was Chris again, only he was Chris with another man's gift cards.
但到了第二天早上,他又变成了克里斯,只不过他是带着另一个男人的礼品卡的克里斯。
I don't know, it became kind of this weird collection of sacred objects almost.
我不知道,它几乎变成了一种奇怪的神圣物品收藏。
For a year, I kind of saw them as this other-- these empowered things.
一年来,我有点把它们视为另一个——这些赋予权力的东西。
Right.
正确的。
It's sort of like in the sci-fi movie when you come back from being back in time.
这有点像科幻电影中的时光倒流。
Right.
正确的。
Jorge Just And you reach in your pocket, and you still have the arrowhead or whatever.
Jorge Just 当你把手伸进口袋时,你仍然拿着箭头之类的东西。
Right, exactly.
对,完全正确。
Or when Tom Cruise wakes up in Eyes Wide Shut , and the mask from the night before is on his pillow.
或者当汤姆·克鲁斯在《大开眼戒》中醒来时,前一天晚上的面具就放在他的枕头上。
As much as I wanted to forget it, I woke up and those gift cards were there.
尽管我很想忘记这件事,但我醒来时发现那些礼品卡就在那里。
It was like, oh, I guess that did happen.
就像,哦,我想那确实发生了。
Chris's response over time was different from Ghost of Pasha's.
随着时间的推移,克里斯的反应与帕夏之魂的反应不同。
They came to appreciate the idea in their own way, but it just left Chris feeling vulnerable and a little paranoid.
他们开始以自己的方式欣赏这个想法,但这只是让克里斯感到脆弱和有点偏执。
He hated the thought that all those strangers at the bar could just pop up again at any moment.
他讨厌酒吧里那些陌生人随时可能再次出现的想法。
One day, he was sitting on a bench in Union Square when a guy walked up to him and said, hey, Ted.
有一天,他坐在联合广场的长凳上,这时一个人走到他面前对他说,嘿,特德。
He waved him off, but it was freaky.
他挥手让他走开,但这很奇怪。
It didn't help that his memory of the whole thing was a little hazy.
更糟糕的是,他对整件事的记忆有些模糊。
For example, he didn't remember giving his phone number out to anyone that night.
例如,他不记得那天晚上把他的电话号码给了任何人。
So you can imagine how he felt when Charlie called him a year later.
所以你可以想象一年后当查理打电话给他时他的感受。
And I said, hey, Ted.
我说,嘿,特德。
It's Charlie.
是查理。
How's it going?
怎么样了?
Your birthday's coming up in a few weeks.
几周后你的生日就到了。
We want to know when you want to celebrate it.
我们想知道您什么时候想庆祝它。
We want to throw you another party.
我们想为您举办另一场派对。
Wanted to know what you wanted.
想知道你想要什么。
Last year, we got you those Best Buy gift certificates.
去年,我们为您提供了百思买礼券。
Do you want that again, or is there a different store?
您还想要这个吗,还是有其他商店吗?
Give me a call back.
给我回电话。
And I gave him my number.
我给了他我的电话号码。
And I didn't hear from him.
我没有收到他的消息。
And as it turns out, a friend of mine knows someone who's a bartender at Dempsy's, where we did Ted's birthday.
事实证明,我的一个朋友认识一个在登普西酒吧当调酒师的人,我们在那里给特德过生日。
And Ted is still a regular at that bar, I assume.
我想特德仍然是那个酒吧的常客。
And he told this bartender, he went up to her and said, "do you know the people who did that birthday thing to me last year?" And he said, "well, could you tell them to stop calling me.
他告诉这位调酒师,他走到她面前说:“你认识去年对我做过生日事的人吗?”他说:“好吧,你能告诉他们不要再给我打电话了吗?
And if they're going to be coming around this bar, I'm gonna have to stop coming here."
如果他们要来到这个酒吧,我就不得不停止来这里了。”
It really kind of broke my heart because it had been such a wonderful night and a wonderful experience for us.
这真的让我心碎,因为这对我们来说是一个美好的夜晚和一次美妙的经历。
And it seemed like it had been a wonderful experience for him.
这对他来说似乎是一次美妙的经历。
But is it?
但真的是这样吗?
I mean, did it go well?
我的意思是,进展顺利吗?
Is it a success if a year later, Ted's story has changed?
如果一年后,特德的故事发生了变化,这算成功吗?
Well, it does kind of-- that response definitely made me sad.
嗯,确实有点——这种反应确实让我感到难过。
But regardless of how he feels about it now, I do know that that night was awesome.
但不管他现在感觉如何,我确实知道那个夜晚太棒了。
I kind of sound like the lead singer of Ghost of Pasha now.
我现在听起来有点像《Ghost of Pasha》的主唱。
I want to tell him and kind of say the same things to him that that guy said to me, you know?
我想告诉他,并对他说那家伙对我说的同样的话,你知道吗?
Like, whatever you say, you had a blast that night.
就像,无论你说什么,那天晚上你玩得很开心。
But he did.
但他做到了。
He did get his $300, and he did get completely drunk and make friends, even if for only a night.
他确实拿到了 300 美元,他也确实喝得酩酊大醉,交了朋友,即使只是一个晚上。
So that night, as it exists in my memory and in the memory of everybody who was there, was a success.
因此,那天晚上,正如我和在场所有人的记忆中一样,是成功的。
In the end, Chris did to Charlie which Charlie does so well to other people.
最后,克里斯对查理做了同样的事,而查理对其他人也做得很好。
He pretended to have an experience that he wasn't actually having.
他假装经历过他实际上没有经历过的经历。
And Charlie thought the fake-out was real.
查理认为假戏是真的。
And when he found out the truth, Charlie reacted the way other people do to him in that situation.
当查理发现真相后,他的反应就像其他人在这种情况下对他所做的那样。
He was sort of upset, a little hurt.
他有点难过,有点受伤。
And then he comforted himself by deciding that some part of the fake-out was real.
然后他安慰自己,认为假装的某些部分是真实的。
And that's the danger of what Charlie does.
这就是查理所做的事情的危险之处。
He believes you'll enjoy sharing his fantasy world, whether you do or not.
他相信你会喜欢分享他的幻想世界,无论你是否愿意。
He asks you to leave your own reality and step into his, just like every crazy pantsless guy on the subway.
他要求你离开自己的现实,走进他的现实,就像地铁上每个疯狂的脱裤汉一样。
Jorge Just.
豪尔赫·贾斯特.
We first aired this story in 2005.
我们于 2005 年首次播出这个故事。
Ghosts of Pasha is still a band.
Ghosts of Pasha 仍然是一支乐队。
In fact, they performed at an Improv Everywhere anniversary show recently.
事实上,他们最近在 Improv Everywhere 周年纪念演出中进行了表演。
Milo, the lead singer, actually went out to join some missions as an agent with Improv Everywhere.
主唱米洛(Milo)实际上作为“即兴无处不在”(Improv Everywhere)的特工出去参加了一些任务。
Coming up, when the most romantic possible thing you can do is also the least romantic possible thing you can do.
即将到来,当你能做的最浪漫的事情也是你能做的最不浪漫的事情时。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues.
芝加哥公共广播电台一分钟后我们的节目仍在继续。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme, bring you different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然,我们每周的节目都会选择一个主题,为您带来有关该主题的不同类型的故事。
Today's program, mind games.
今天的节目,智力游戏。
We've arrived at Act Three of our show-- Act Three, Lonely Hearts Club Band of One.
我们已经到了演出的第三幕——第三幕,孤独之心俱乐部乐队一号。
So a musician named David Berkeley was requested to play a concert that was a very mind-bendy, mind-game kind of experience, more than any other concert he ever played.
因此,一位名叫大卫·伯克利(David Berkeley)的音乐家被要求举办一场音乐会,这是一次非常令人费解、智力游戏的体验,比他举办过的任何其他音乐会都要多。
Berkeley is a singer-songwriter on the indie music circuit.
伯克利是独立音乐界的创作歌手。
He gets showcased at South by Southwest.
他在西南偏南音乐节上得到了展示。
He's toured with Rufus Wainwright and Billy Bragg and Ben Folds, people like that.
他曾与鲁弗斯·温赖特、比利·布拉格和本·福兹等人一起巡演。
And though he's played tons of shows all over the country, this one was different, like I say.
尽管他在全国各地演出过很多场演出,但正如我所说,这次是不同的。
The idea is that he would fly to San Diego and play inside an apartment for just two people.
他的想法是飞往圣地亚哥,在一个只有两个人的公寓里玩。
And his goal would be to reunite the two as a couple.
他的目标是让两人重新成为情侣。
Now, of course, most songwriters wouldn't believe that their music has the power to move people's hearts.
当然,现在大多数歌曲作者不会相信他们的音乐有能力打动人心。
But I got to say, rarely does anybody get to test just how far that goes in such a clear-cut, goal-oriented way.
但我必须说,很少有人能以如此明确、目标导向的方式来测试它能走多远。
The deal was the guy in the couple wanted to be together.
这笔交易是这对夫妇中的那个人想在一起。
In fact, he was the one who reached out to David in the first place.
事实上,他是第一个联系大卫的人。
He and his girlfriend were on the rocks.
他和他的女朋友陷入了困境。
And he was hoping that a private concert with David, maybe that would change her mind.
他希望与大卫举行一场私人音乐会,也许这会改变她的想法。
He had sent me a long email with kind of the battle plan, which the more I read, the more absurd it sort of seemed.
他给我发了一封很长的电子邮件,其中包含一些作战计划,我读得越多,它看起来就越荒谬。
The couple had either met at one of my concerts in California or their first date.
这对情侣要么是在我在加州举行的一场音乐会上认识的,要么是他们第一次约会。
I think their first date was at one of my concerts.
我想他们的第一次约会是在我的一场音乐会上。
And he was gonna do everything he could to get her back.
他会尽一切努力让她回来。
And I think that he decided that one huge gesture was probably what it would take.
我认为他认为可能需要做出一个巨大的举动。
And so he planned this night from start to finish, which included going to their favorite restaurant, and the wine that they were going to order.
所以他从头到尾都计划好了这个晚上,其中包括去他们最喜欢的餐厅,以及他们要点的酒。
And then the culmination was going to be the nightcap in their apartment, where I was going to pop through the door and sing them their concert.
然后高潮将是在他们的公寓里喝睡前酒,我要冲进门给他们唱他们的音乐会。
And then he just sort of gave me the plan for how I was going to sneak into the apartment without them knowing, and how I was going to have to actually sneak into the garage, which literally involved me following a car in and trying to get through the gate before the gate closed and then up a back elevator onto the eighth floor, where I would then knock on his apartment door.
然后他就给了我一个计划,告诉我如何在他们不知情的情况下潜入公寓,以及如何真正潜入车库,这实际上涉及我跟着一辆车进去,试图在大门关闭之前穿过大门,然后乘后面的电梯到八楼,然后我会在那里敲他公寓的门。
Not to ask a kind of dumb question, but couldn't he just send you a key?
不是问一个愚蠢的问题,但他不能直接给你发一把钥匙吗?
Yeah.
是的。
I guess that didn't cross his or my mind.
我想他或我都没有想到这一点。
But yeah, he should have.
但是,是的,他应该这么做。
And I was actually nervous.
我其实很紧张。
I play a lot of concerts, and rarely have I been nervous like this.
我参加了很多场音乐会,很少像现在这样紧张。
And I guess it was because I had no idea what I was walking into.
我想这是因为我不知道自己正在走进什么。
And I was about to knock on the door, and I started to think about, what is she going to do when I walk in?
我正要敲门,我开始思考,当我走进来时,她会做什么?
And I guess I expected that she was-- despite feeling like things weren't going well, I thought she was going to be really excited to see me.
我想我预计她会——尽管感觉事情进展不顺利,但我认为她见到我会非常兴奋。
And she would-- I don't know what.
她会——我不知道什么。
She would give me a hug, or she would laugh, or something like that.
她会给我一个拥抱,或者她会笑,或者类似的事情。
And in fact, I opened the door, and she just sort of kind of crumpled.
事实上,我打开门,她就有点崩溃了。
She sort of collapsed.
她有点崩溃了。
Her head kind of fell into her hands, and I think she might have said, I can't believe you did this.
她的头陷入了困境,我想她可能会说,我不敢相信你会这么做。
He shouldn't have done this.
他不应该这样做。
And it was hard for me, at this point, not to take that a little personally, you know?
在这一点上,我很难不把这件事视为针对我个人的,你知道吗?
Because without sort of knowing it, I had kind of joined sides with this guy.
因为在不知不觉中,我已经加入了这个家伙的阵营。
I was on his team.
我是他团队里的一员。
We were coming in to do a job.
我们进来是为了做一份工作。
OK.
好的。
So what do you do?
那么你做什么呢?
David Berkeley I think I said something like, hi.
大卫·伯克利 我想我说了类似“嗨”的话。
I thought I might play you a few songs.
我想我可以给你弹几首歌。
And it just felt gross.
感觉很恶心。
I felt, why was I even here?
我觉得,我为什么会在这里?
And the guy asked me if I wanted to sit or stand, which I normally stand when I perform.
那个人问我想坐着还是站着,我表演时通常是站着的。
But that seemed completely absurd to me, that I was going to stand and perform to these two people in their living room.
但我要站起来在客厅里给这两个人表演,这对我来说似乎完全荒谬。
So I said I would sit.
于是我就说我坐吧。
And he pulled a chair up for me.
他为我拉了一把椅子。
And I was across a small coffee table from them.
我和他们隔着一张小咖啡桌。
And they sat down on the couch.
他们在沙发上坐下。
And I sat down in my chair, and I started to play.
我坐在椅子上,开始演奏。
And so they're on the couch.
所以他们就坐在沙发上。
And are they sitting close together?
他们坐在一起吗?
God, no. I think it was just a three-cushion couch, and they were on the left and the right cushions.
天哪,不。我认为这只是一个三垫子沙发,它们分别位于左侧和右侧的垫子上。
And there was a big cushion in between.
中间还有一个很大的垫子。
Now, you have your guitar there.
现在,你的吉他已经放在那里了。
You and I are speaking to each other from different locations.
你和我在不同的地点互相交谈。
You want to just play a couple lines of the song so we have a sense of what this was?
你只想播放这首歌的几句台词,以便我们了解这是什么?
Let me just tune real quick.
让我快速调整一下。
[TUNING GUITAR]
[调音吉他]
I should stop right there because I got about that far in the song and glanced up.
我应该就在那里停下来,因为我在歌曲中唱到了那么远,抬起头看了一眼。
And that was enough for her to recognize the song.
这足以让她认出这首歌。
And she started to cry, which wasn't what I had hoped would happen.
她开始哭泣,这不是我所希望发生的。
(SINGING) A couple on a bridge, a stone bridge in some European town.
(唱歌)一对夫妇在一座桥上,一座欧洲小镇的石桥。
After all the years, I see we all fall down.
这么多年过去了,我看到我们都倒下了。
The knock at the front door, the crack in the wall.
前门被敲响,墙壁出现裂缝。
And right when I sang that part of the chorus-- the knock on the front door-- it seemed like suddenly, I was actually singing a song that was the story of this night.
当我唱起副歌部分时——敲前门的声音——似乎突然间,我实际上在唱一首讲述今晚故事的歌曲。
Yeah, yeah.
是啊是啊。
This is a song about a couple for whom things are not going very well.
这是一首关于一对生活不太顺利的夫妇的歌曲。
Yeah.
是的。
And why I didn't know that and think about that before I started to play it, I don't know.
为什么我不知道这一点并在开始玩之前思考这一点,我不知道。
But it was too late.
但为时已晚。
And this happens at times in a performance, where you recognize you've made the wrong choice of a song.
这种情况在表演中有时会发生,你意识到自己选错了歌曲。
And you can never really go back.
而且你永远无法真正回去。
I had to just barrel through.
我必须快速通过。
And so where do you go?
那么你要去哪里?
What do you play next?
接下来玩什么?
What do you do?
你做什么工作?
Well, I think I played a song that was a story song that was more lighthearted.
嗯,我想我演奏的是一首比较轻松的故事歌曲。
And I got through that.
我挺过来了。
But the night wasn't getting any easier.
但夜晚并没有变得更容易。
And also, you have to understand that after a song finishes, two people kind of clapping a couple of times after you finish a song, it sounds really, really depressing.
而且,你必须明白,一首歌结束后,两个人在你完成一首歌后鼓掌几次,这听起来真的非常令人沮丧。
I guess I didn't really stop to think about the fact that the song would end, and they would either have to clap or not.
我想我并没有真正停下来思考这首歌将结束的事实,他们要么鼓掌,要么不鼓掌。
Well, that's why this was so weird, because the time in between the songs became as painful as the songs themselves.
嗯,这就是为什么这很奇怪,因为歌曲之间的时间变得和歌曲本身一样痛苦。
And so what do you do to try to turn the situation around?
那么你会采取什么措施来扭转局面呢?
Well, let me first say that, as I'm singing that song, right after I sang the first lyric, I regretted the choice.
嗯,首先我要说的是,当我唱那首歌的时候,我唱完第一句歌词后,我就后悔了这个选择。
And I started thinking ahead.
我开始提前思考。
And when I started racing through in my mind the other songs that I was going to be able to play this night, I started to get really scared because I realized that not only might it not have been a good idea to hire a musician to come across the country and sing to get back your girl, but I was probably the wrong musician to have hired.
当我开始在脑海中快速浏览今晚我将要演奏的其他歌曲时,我开始变得非常害怕,因为我意识到聘请一位音乐家跨越全国唱歌来找回你的女儿不仅不是一个好主意,而且我可能是错误的音乐家。
Exactly.
确切地。
And he knew this because he knows my music.
他知道这一点是因为他了解我的音乐。
So maybe on the third or fourth song I played, the song "Straw Man," which is one of the ones that he had asked for-- and I'll play a little bit of it.
所以也许在我播放的第三或第四首歌中,歌曲“稻草人”,这是他要求的歌曲之一 - 我会播放一点。
[PLAYING GUITAR] (SINGING) Never quite so clean, she makes the world around me seem lavender and wintergreen when we're side by side.
[弹吉他](唱歌)从未如此干净,当我们肩并肩时,她让我周围的世界看起来像薰衣草和冬青。
And that chorus repeats several times.
那副歌重复了好几次。
And after about the second chorus, I looked up, and I felt like she softened a little bit.
大约第二段副歌结束后,我抬起头,感觉她的语气柔和了一些。
And it seemed like the song was doing a little bit more of its job.
这首歌似乎发挥了更多作用。
And by the end of the song, it really did feel like it had changed something in the room.
在歌曲结束时,确实感觉房间里发生了一些变化。
And she kind of was sitting up a little straighter, maybe.
也许她坐得更直了一些。
And she was looking at me more.
她更多地看着我。
And I even kind of saw her look at him a little and give a little smile.
我什至看到她看着他,露出一丝微笑。
And that was a tiny gesture, but it was so good to see.
虽然这是一个微小的举动,但看到它真是太好了。
Well, so then we got on a little bit of a roll.
好吧,然后我们就进展顺利了。
But with each song, and even smaller increments, with each verse, it seemed like they were symbolically and literally moving closer together.
但随着每首歌,甚至更小的增量,每节经文,它们似乎象征性地、字面上地越来越接近。
And in fact, by maybe song five or six, they actually were sitting next to each other.
事实上,也许到了第五或第六首歌时,他们实际上就坐在一起了。
And I couldn't believe it.
我简直不敢相信。
I couldn't believe it.
我简直不敢相信。
I really didn't think there was any chance.
我真的没想到还有机会。
And certainly from the beginning of the night till that point, there seemed like there was zero chance.
当然,从那天晚上开始到那一刻,似乎机会为零。
But they started holding hands.
但他们开始牵手。
And at one point in a song, she lay her head on his shoulder.
在一首歌中的某个时刻,她把头靠在他的肩膀上。
So it's working.
所以它正在发挥作用。
And I play a song that actually, they kiss.
我演奏了一首他们亲吻的歌曲。
And that was a shock.
这真是令人震惊。
And at that point, I thought, this is it.
那时,我想,就是这样了。
We've done it.
我们已经做到了。
I wanted to slap the guy's hand.
我真想打那家伙的手。
I felt great.
我感觉很棒。
But the mood had changed, but it was still painfully awkward and, if anything, more so now because I was now right across the coffee table from a couple who's making out as I'm singing.
但心情已经改变了,但仍然令人痛苦地尴尬,如果有的话,现在更是如此,因为我现在就在咖啡桌对面,一对情侣正在我唱歌时亲热。
And now it felt totally wrong that I was there, just for different reasons.
现在我感觉自己在那里完全不对劲,只是出于不同的原因。
At one point, they kissed, and I locked eyes with her right as they're kissing.
有一次,他们接吻了,当他们接吻的时候,我和她四目相对。
And we both looked away immediately, but it happened.
我们都立即移开视线,但事情发生了。
And at one point, he and I met eyes at just a really badly-timed moment, where he was giving her one of these looks like, I'm your man.
有一次,我和他在一个非常不合时宜的时刻相遇了,他给了她一种这样的表情,我是你的男人。
And I will be there for you forever.
我会永远在你身边。
And we'll have beautiful children together.
我们将会一起拥有漂亮的孩子。
And there I am.
我就在那里。
And he and I are looking at each other suddenly for a second, but a very, very bad second of my life.
我和他突然对视了一会儿,但那是我一生中非常非常糟糕的时刻。
So things move from horrible to exuberant to straight out creepy, it sounds like.
听起来,事情从可怕到生机勃勃,再到令人毛骨悚然。
I think that's fair.
我认为这是公平的。
But at least when I'm singing, I can just sort of get lost in the fact that the music is sort of working for them.
但至少当我唱歌时,我会迷失在音乐对他们有用的事实中。
And so as I finish the concert, she hugs me, and he walks me out of the apartment and down to the elevator.
当我结束音乐会时,她拥抱了我,他陪我走出公寓,走到电梯口。
I get to take the main elevator down this time.
这次我要乘主电梯下去。
And he tells me something to the effect of, you never know how things are going to work out.
他告诉我一些大意是,你永远不知道事情会如何发展。
But I think that you may have been the tipping point tonight.
但我认为今晚你可能是转折点。
And that felt great.
那感觉棒极了。
I was so happy.
我很高兴。
Right.
正确的。
Your music brought these people together.
你的音乐让这些人聚集在一起。
Brought them together in the first place, maybe, brought them back together now.
也许,一开始就让他们走到了一起,现在又让他们重新走到了一起。
It was perfect.
太完美了。
Even when I had tried to serenade ex-girlfriends to get them back directly, that hadn't worked.
即使我试图给前女友唱小夜曲,让她们直接回来,也没有用。
A few months after all this, David Berkeley was back in California doing a show in Los Angeles, and the guy emailed him, asking if David would give him two spots on the guest list.
几个月后,大卫·伯克利回到加利福尼亚州洛杉矶举办一场演出,那家伙给他发了一封电子邮件,询问大卫是否愿意在嘉宾名单上给他两个位置。
But the guy did not bring the girl.
但男孩并没有带女孩来。
He came with a buddy.
他和一个朋友一起来的。
And he told David afterwards that things didn't work out.
后来他告诉大卫,事情没有进展。
Incredibly, David says that he would do this all over again if somebody else asked him to do it.
令人难以置信的是,大卫说,如果有人要求他这样做,他会再做一次。
And as for the guy-- OK, after this failure, would he try another concert in his apartment?
至于那个人——好吧,在这次失败之后,他会在他的公寓里尝试另一场音乐会吗?
I know he would.
我知道他会的。
And in fact, I know that he would do it again with me because he's made that clear.
事实上,我知道他会和我再做一次,因为他已经明确表示了这一点。
What?
什么?
David Berkeley He's made it clear that if he has another girl, he hopes the situation will arise where he can have me come and do another serenade.
大卫·伯克利 他已经明确表示,如果他有另一个女孩,他希望能够让我来再唱一首小夜曲。
But wait, would you go?
但是等等,你愿意去吗?
David Berkeley What would be funny is that my exclusive knowledge of him is related to this other episode that we wouldn't be able to talk about, this other girl where I did the same thing.
大卫·伯克利 有趣的是,我对他的独家了解与我们无法谈论的另一集有关,在另一个女孩中我做了同样的事情。
And of course, the new girl isn't going to want to know about the old girl and is certainly not going to want to know that he did the same trick.
当然,新女孩不会想知道老女孩的事,也肯定不会想知道他做了同样的把戏。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, I was just thinking that.
是的,我只是这么想。
It definitely takes the romantic idealism off the whole thing.
它绝对消除了整个事情的浪漫理想主义。
Yeah.
是的。
Then it starts to get bizarre in a whole other way because now I'm sort of his guy.
然后事情开始以一种完全不同的方式变得奇怪,因为现在我是他的人了。
And I'm not sure about that.
我对此不确定。
David Berkeley.
大卫·伯克利.
He's recently released a book of 10 short stories called The Free Brontosaurus and an accompanying album, 10 songs called Cardboard Box.
他最近出版了一本名为《自由雷龙》的包含 10 个短篇小说的书,以及一张包含 10 首歌曲的专辑《Cardboard Box》。
This story was produced with the help of Marshall Lewy.
这个故事是在马歇尔·路易的帮助下制作的。
Well, our program was produced today by Jane Marie and myself with Alex Blumberg, Diane Cook, Wendy Dorr, Sarah Koenig, Lisa Pollak, Robyn Semien, Alissa Shipp, and Nancy Updike.
今天我们的节目由简·玛丽和我本人以及亚历克斯·布隆伯格、黛安·库克、温迪·多尔、莎拉·科尼格、丽莎·波拉克、罗宾·塞米恩、艾丽莎·希普和南希·厄普代克共同制作。
Our senior producer for today's show, Julie Snyder.
我们今天节目的高级制片人朱莉·斯奈德。
Our technical director is Matt Tierney.
我们的技术总监是马特·蒂尔尼。
Production help from Lyra Smith.
Lyra Smith 提供制作帮助。
Our website, thisamericanlife.org.
我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.
《美国生活》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。
Special thanks, as always, to our co-founder, Mr. Torey Malatia, who reminds me all the time--
一如既往地特别感谢我们的联合创始人 Torey Malatia 先生,他一直提醒我——
I'm your man, and I will be there for you forever.
我是你的男人,我会永远在你身边。
And we'll have beautiful children together.
我们将会一起拥有漂亮的孩子。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作,并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。