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Prologue Ira Glass Watching officials from international soccer this week on the news, it was hard not to think, wow, you guys have really learned how to have a game face.

序言 Ira Glass 本周观看国际足球官员的新闻,很难不想,哇,你们真的学会了如何拥有一张比赛脸。

You know what I'm talking about?

你知道我在说什么吗?

14 people indicted, many arrested, allegations of bribery and corruption going back years-- the head of FIFA, Sepp Blatter, was not indicted, but people were wondering about his involvement.

14 人被起诉,许多人被捕,有关贿赂和腐败的指控可以追溯到多年前——国际足联主席塞普·布拉特 (Sepp Blatter) 没有被起诉,但人们对他的参与感到好奇。

And law enforcement officials have made clear their investigation is not finished.

执法官员明确表示他们的调查尚未完成。

But Blatter was cool.

但布拉特很酷。

He was composed at the opening ceremony at the FIFA Congress on Thursday.

他在周四的国际足联大会开幕式上发表了讲话。

Many people hold me ultimately responsible for the actions and the reputation of the global football community.

许多人认为我对全球足球界的行为和声誉负有最终责任。

We, or I, cannot monitor everyone all of the time.

我们,或者我,无法一直监控每个人。

If people want to do wrong, they will also tried to hide it.

如果人们想要做错事,他们也会想方设法隐藏它。

By the next day, though, cracks started to appear if you were watching closely, which I was.

然而,到了第二天,如果你仔细观察的话,裂缝就开始出现了,我也是如此。

It was little things.

这是一些小事。

Like, for example, on Thursday Blatter had said--

例如,布拉特周四说过——

These are unprecedented and difficult times for FIFA.

对于国际足联来说,这是前所未有的困难时期。

One day later, though, he told the Congress, quote, "I will not call this unprecedented." Apparently somebody reminded him of accusations of bribery and financial mismanagement under his leadership in 2002, 2006, 2010, and 2011.

然而一天后,他对国会说,“我不会称这是史无前例的。”显然有人让他想起了2002年、2006年、2010年和2011年在他领导下的贿赂和财务管理不善的指控。

That day, Friday, Blatter addressed the FIFA Congress in French.

星期五那天,布拉特用法语在国际足联大会上发表讲话。

And even the question of his responsibility as FIFA's president seemed to shift like soft ground yielding under a heavyweight.

甚至连他作为国际足联主席的责任问题也似乎像软土在重量级人物面前屈服一样发生了变化。

Sepp Blatter I'm willing to accept that the president of FIFA is responsible for everything, but I would like to share that responsibility with you, or at the very least with the executive committee here to my left.

塞普·布拉特 我愿意接受国际足联主席对一切负责的说法,但我想与你分担这一责任,或者至少与我左边的执行委员会分担这一责任。

Sometimes, during this address, Blatter's words seemed totally disconnected from his tone.

有时,在这次演讲中,布拉特的言辞似乎与他的语气完全脱节。

He issued a rallying cry at one point, "let's try to lift our spirits," with the grimness of a doctor delivering awful medical news and an actual grimace at the end, which is to say, even somebody with as much game face as a veteran political operator like Blatter-- he's been part of FIFA's leadership for decades.

他一度发出了战斗口号,“让我们努力振作起来”,语气就像医生在报告可怕的医疗消息时一样冷酷,最后还露出了真正的鬼脸,这就是说,即使是像布拉特这样充满游戏面孔的资深政治操盘手——他几十年来一直是国际足联领导层的一部分。

Even he has his limits.

即使他也有他的极限。

One of our producers, Jonathan, has this picture in his middle school yearbook, his team picture for sixth grade basketball at Hillview Middle School in Whittier, California.

我们的制作人之一乔纳森在他的中学年鉴中收录了这张照片,这是他在加利福尼亚州惠蒂尔山景中学六年级篮球队的照片。

Out of 20 kids, most of them are stony-faced.

20个孩子里,大多数都是面无表情。

A few smile or smirk a little bit.

一些人微笑或傻笑。

He is the only one beaming.

他是唯一一个笑容满面的人。

He says he didn't get the memo to look tough.

他说他收到这份备忘录并不是为了显得强硬。

It reminded me we have to be taught to have a game face.

它提醒我我们必须被教导要有一张游戏脸。

We have to be taught.

我们必须被教导。

It doesn't just happen.

它不是凭空发生的。

Somebody was telling me last week about his daughter's softball league, that they actively coach them on this, on not to cry, not to get upset when there's a bad call or the game doesn't go their way.

上周有人告诉我他女儿的垒球联赛,他们在这方面积极指导他们,不要哭泣,不要在接到错误判罚或比赛不顺利时感到沮丧。

Don't look like you're losing it, the coach tells the kids.

教练告诉孩子们,不要看起来像是你正在失败。

Keep your face neutral.

保持面部中立。

Look like you're in control.

看起来你一切尽在掌握。

That's the key.

这就是关键。

Look like you're in control.

看起来你一切尽在掌握。

Well , today our program, we have stories of people in situations that are fraught and difficult, where anybody would have trouble staying composed.

好吧,今天我们的节目,我们讲述了人们在充满忧虑和困难的情况下的故事,任何人都很难保持冷静。

But above all, for various reasons in each story, these people have to stay composed.

但最重要的是,由于每个故事中的各种原因,这些人必须保持冷静。

They have to maintain gain phase, which is when you are truly being tested.

他们必须保持增益阶段,这是你真正受到测试的时候。

From WBEZ Chicago, it's "This American Life".

来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的歌曲是“This American Life”。

I'm Ira Glass.

我是艾拉·格拉斯。

Stay with us.

留在我们身边。

Act 1, "200 Dog Night." For a couple summers when she was 19 and 20, Blair Braverman worked as a dog sled guide on an Alaskan glacier.

第一幕,“200狗之夜”。布莱尔·布雷弗曼 (Blair Braverman) 在 19 岁和 20 岁的时候曾有过几个夏天,在阿拉斯加冰川上担任狗拉雪橇向导。

The glacier was part of an ice field the size of Rhode Island made of many glaciers.

该冰川是罗德岛州大小的冰原的一部分,由许多冰川组成。

Blair and 12 other staff members lived with 200 huskies on the ice for a week at a time.

布莱尔和其他 12 名工作人员曾与 200 只哈士奇一起在冰上生活了一周。

Sometimes, actually, it was a lot more than a week.

有时,实际上,这比一周要长得多。

They'd be there for three or four weeks.

他们会在那里呆三四个星期。

The guides slept in tents.

导游们睡在帐篷里。

The dogs slept in little plastic igloos.

狗们睡在小塑料冰屋里。

And, eight times a day, helicopters would drop off groups of 20 to 30 cruise ship tourists.

而且,直升机每天八次运送 20 至 30 名游轮游客。

Of course, like any job dealing with the public, especially a job dealing with tourists, this all required a pretty committed game face, not just stoic, but actively cheerful, and enthusiastic, and-- F-U-N-- fun-- you know, on a glacier-- 'til one day that game face became very, very hard to pull off.

当然,就像任何与公众打交道的工作,尤其是与游客打交道的工作一样,这一切都需要一张非常投入的游戏面孔,不仅要坚忍,还要积极乐观、热情,而且——F-U-N——有趣——你知道,在冰川上——直到有一天,这张游戏面孔变得非常非常难以实现。

Quick note-- we've changed some of the names in this story.

快速说明——我们更改了这个故事中的一些名字。

Here's Blair.

这是布莱尔。

The tour was expensive.

这次旅行很贵。

Tourists paid $500 each for a half hour helicopter flight and a dog sled ride on the glacier-- total time on the ice, one hour.

游客每人支付 500 美元,可以享受半小时的直升机飞行和冰川上的狗拉雪橇——在冰上的总时间为一小时。

A lot of my earnings came from tips-- 20s, 50s, or the occasional hundred folded tight and slipped into my jacket cuff as I shook hands at the end of the tour.

我的大部分收入都来自小费——20 块、50 块,或者偶尔有 100 块,当我在旅行结束握手时,折叠起来塞进我的夹克袖口。

My job was to provide a luxury experience, a taste of real Alaska.

我的工作是提供奢华的体验,品味真正的阿拉斯加。

This is from a promo video for the tour.

这是巡演的宣传视频。

The sled dogs we have at camp are the real McCoy.

我们营地里的雪橇犬是真正的麦考伊犬。

These are the dogs that we travel with in the winter and race with.

这些是我们在冬天旅行和比赛的狗。

Most of these dogs that will be pulling you today have actually done the Iditarod, many of them several times.

今天要拉着你的狗中的大多数实际上都做过艾迪塔罗德,其中很多都做过好几次。

We were supposed to provide this taste of Alaska with absolutely no discomfort, either physical or mental, even though physical and mental discomfort is kind of the premise of living on a glacier.

我们应该提供这种阿拉斯加的味道,无论是身体上还是精神上都绝对不会有任何不适,尽管身体和精神上的不适是生活在冰川上的前提。

It could be brutal.

这可能是残酷的。

UV rays reflected off the ice and blistered the insides of our nostrils so that it hurt to breathe.

紫外线从冰上反射出来,使我们的鼻孔内部起泡,导致呼吸困难。

It rained a lot, and my skin got so waterlogged that it fell off in white strips.

雨下得很大,我的皮肤被水浸湿了,掉下来一条条白条。

I wrapped my fingers in duct tape to keep the skin in one piece when I shook hands with tourists.

当我与游客握手时,我用胶带缠住手指,以保持皮肤完整。

The snow we stood on was just a few feet deep, covering solid ice.

我们所站的积雪只有几英尺深,上面覆盖着坚硬的冰。

But the ice would shift and crack.

但冰会移动并破裂。

And so, under any given patch of snow, there might be ice, or there might be nothing, a gaping hole hundreds of feet deep.

因此,在任何一块特定的雪下,可能有冰,也可能什么都没有,只是一个数百英尺深的大洞。

During my job interview, I'd been told that no staff members had died yet.

在我的求职面试中,我被告知还没有员工死亡。

But they couldn't make any promises.

但他们无法做出任何承诺。

Once in a while, we'd spend a day probing for cracks in the ice, crevasses.

偶尔,我们会花一天的时间探测冰上的裂缝、裂缝。

We pushed long, thin aluminum poles into the snow every 12 inches or so through the whole camp, praying that the metal would meet resistance.

我们在整个营地中每隔 12 英寸左右就将细长的铝杆推入雪中,祈祷金属能够遇到阻力。

One morning, I climbed from my tent to find that a turquoise lake a half mile wide had appeared overnight right next to camp.

一天早上,我从帐篷里爬出来,发现营地旁边一夜之间出现了一个半英里宽的碧绿湖泊。

It was gone by the next day.

到第二天就消失了。

On a bad day, we called the glacier the goddamn ice cube-- on a good day, summer camp on the moon.

天气不好时,我们称冰川为该死的冰块;天气好的时候,我们称其为月球夏令营。

To the tourists, we called it dog world, as in, welcome to dog world.

对于游客来说,我们称之为狗世界,就像“欢迎来到狗世界”一样。

I'm Blair, and I'll be your dog sled guide.

我是布莱尔,我将成为您的狗拉雪橇向导。

I can't believe how lucky we got with this weather.

我不敢相信我们如此幸运地遇到了这样的天气。

Eight times a day, I told the tourists that they had lucked into the best weather in weeks.

我每天八次告诉游客,他们很幸运遇到了几周以来最好的天气。

Even when it was pouring rain, I explained that, until they arrived, it had been raining harder.

即使下着倾盆大雨,我也解释说,在他们到达之前,雨一直下得更大。

We tried to spare them the sight of a single piece of dog poop.

我们尽量不让他们看到狗屎。

We cleaned the kennel constantly, scraping up dog hair that collected on the snow and piling it in an enormous mound hidden behind the tents, which we called the woolly mammoth.

我们不断地清理狗舍,刮掉积雪上的狗毛,并将其堆放在帐篷后面隐藏的巨大土堆中,我们称之为长毛猛犸象。

The tourists didn't mention crevasses, so I didn't either.

游客们没有提到裂缝,所以我也没有提到。

It wasn't that the reality of glacier life was a secret.

这并不是说冰川生命的现实是一个秘密。

We just didn't want to distract from the tourist fantasy that they had been dropped into a pristine wonderland.

我们只是不想分散游客对他们被扔进原始仙境的幻想。

By my second summer on the ice, I was having a hard time.

在冰上的第二个夏天,我过得很艰难。

Most of the other guides were men and older than me, so I was pretty lonely.

其他导游大多数都是男性,而且比我年长,所以我很孤独。

To make it worse, I'd made the mistake of dating one of the men the summer before and then breaking up, which didn't exactly make it easy to live together at glacier camp.

更糟糕的是,我犯了一个错误,在前一年夏天与其中一个男人约会,然后分手了,这并没有让我们在冰川营地一起生活变得容易。

My ex had taken to badmouthing me to the other staff and even to the tourists.

我的前夫开始向其他工作人员甚至游客说我的坏话。

It's too bad you didn't get an experienced guide, I once overheard him tell a couple as he led them to my sled.

可惜你没有找到一位经验丰富的导游,我有一次无意中听到他在领着一对夫妇去我的雪橇时对他们说。

My tentmate, Rebecca, was my closest friend on the ice, although I thought of her more like a kid sister.

我的帐篷伙伴丽贝卡是我在冰上最亲密的朋友,尽管我认为她更像是一个小妹妹。

She was a homeschooled 18-year-old from Indiana who had never before been away from her family for more than a week.

她是一名来自印第安纳州的 18 岁女孩,在家接受教育,此前从未离开过家人超过一周。

She'd fallen in love with the idea of dogsledding, the idea of Alaska.

她爱上了狗拉雪橇的想法,爱上了阿拉斯加的想法。

And, back home, she saved up money working at McDonald's to buy a malamute and a husky, which she trained to pull her on roller blades.

回到家后,她在麦当劳工作攒了钱,买了一只雪橇犬和一只哈士奇,并训练它们用旱冰鞋拉她。

Rebecca lived her life, in her words, guided by Jesus Christ and his teachings.

用丽贝卡的话来说,她的生活是在耶稣基督及其教义的指导下度过的。

Together, she and I made easy targets.

她和我一起制定了简单的目标。

Other guides blamed us for problems around camp.

其他导游将营地周围的问题归咎于我们。

And we were always the butt of their jokes.

我们总是成为他们的笑柄。

I was pretty resigned to it all, but sweet Rebecca was determined to make friends, going out of her way to be helpful, working twice as hard as any of the rest of us.

我对这一切很顺从,但可爱的丽贝卡决心结交朋友,不遗余力地提供帮助,工作比我们其他人加倍努力。

And she dreamed of getting a chance to drive a dogsled.

她梦想有机会驾驶狗拉雪橇。

She'd set aside time for it.

她为此预留了时间。

And somehow, just when she was getting hopeful, someone would yell that they needed her to scoop poop or fetch some booties.

不知何故,正当她满怀希望时,有人会大喊他们需要她去舀便便或拿一些战利品。

And the trip would be delayed again.

而且行程又要推迟了。

At night, Rebecca and I would sit up in our sleeping bags eating trail mix and trading young adult novels about the end of the world.

晚上,丽贝卡和我会坐在睡袋里吃什锦杂果,交换有关世界末日的年轻人小说。

We'd been on the glacier for two months, more than half the summer, and Rebecca still hadn't driven a dogsled.

我们已经在冰川上待了两个月,大半个夏天,丽贝卡仍然没有开过狗拉雪橇。

And she was really, really homesick.

她真的非常想家。

Finally, she gave in and bought a plane ticket to see her family.

最后她屈服了,买了一张机票去看望家人。

When the morning came for her to leave, I begged for an hour off so I could take her sledding before she left.

当她早上要离开时,我请求休息一个小时,这样我就可以在她离开之前带她去滑雪橇。

It was the best ride I'd had all summer.

这是我整个夏天最棒的一次骑行。

The dogs were happy.

狗们很高兴。

It wasn't raining, and Rebecca laughed out loud as she drove the sled.

没有下雨,丽贝卡一边驾驶雪橇,一边放声大笑。

Tourist voices drifted from the neighboring trails, where other people were responsible for them.

游客的声音从附近的小径上飘来,这些声音是由其他人负责的。

Then we heard the high whine of a snowmobile and saw a tiny figure in the distance, our manager, Malcolm, zooming toward us in an orange vest.

然后我们听到雪地摩托的高声呜呜声,看到远处有一个微小的身影,我们的经理马尔科姆穿着橙色背心向我们疾驰而来。

We had been warned about orange vests.

我们被警告要注意橙色背心。

They were worn only to signal an emergency, to communicate urgency to the staff without scaring the tourists.

佩戴它们只是为了发出紧急情况信号,向工作人员传达紧急情况,而又不会吓到游客。

Now, as he barreled up the trail, Malcolm waved to the tourists.

现在,当马尔科姆沿着小路快速前进时,他向游客们挥手致意。

Gorgeous day, isn't it?

美好的一天,不是吗?

He slowed next to me and Rebecca.

他在我和丽贝卡旁边放慢了速度。

We're in trouble, he said.

我们有麻烦了,他说。

The pilots can't get back.

飞行员无法返回。

A sudden storm had descended between the heliport and the glacier.

一场突如其来的风暴降临在直升机场和冰川之间。

Nobody's hurt, but the tourists are trapped here now, Malcolm said.

马尔科姆说,没有人受伤,但游客现在被困在这里。

His voice was higher than I've ever heard it.

他的声音比我听过的还要高。

They're trapped here.

他们被困在这里了。

I need you to let the staff know what happened without alarming any of the tourists.

我需要你在不惊动任何游客的情况下让工作人员知道发生了什么事。

Just tell them-- I don't know-- that they'll be here longer than they expected, maybe an extra hour or two.

只要告诉他们——我不知道——他们会在这里比他们预期的时间更长,也许会多一两个小时。

More for their money, right?

更多的是为了他们的钱,对吧?

He paused.

他停了下来。

And girls, try to make it sound like a good thing.

女孩们,试着让它听起来像是一件好事。

Rebecca and I split up to spread the word.

丽贝卡和我分头去传播消息。

Great news, I announced to each group.

好消息,我向每个小组宣布了。

You get a longer tour than usual.

您的旅行时间比平时更长。

Then, while the tourists pet the dogs, I sidled up to each musher and quietly told him what was actually going on.

然后,当游客们抚摸狗时,我悄悄走到每个拉雪橇的人面前,悄悄地告诉他到底发生了什么。

Back at camp, Malcolm was standing by the satellite phone thinking.

回到营地,马尔科姆站在卫星电话旁思考。

He had called the cruise ship to say that the passengers would be late.

他给游轮打电话说乘客会迟到。

The captain agreed to wait three hours, but no longer.

船长同意等三个小时,但不能再等了。

So our cook heated a massive pot on the propane stove, preparing cocoa.

所以我们的厨师在丙烷炉上加热了一个大锅,准备可可。

Our goal now was to keep things fun for as long as possible, let the tourists hang out in the kennel, then bring them in for hot drinks.

我们现在的目标是尽可能长时间地保持乐趣,让游客在狗舍里闲逛,然后带他们进来喝热饮。

Malcolm had plans for snowmobile rides and a snowman building contest.

马尔科姆计划进行雪地摩托骑行和堆雪人比赛。

As long as the backup helicopters arrived within an hour or so, which they would, there was no reason for the tourists to know that things weren't going just as intended.

只要备用直升机能在一小时左右到达(他们会的),游客就没有理由知道事情没有按预期进行。

But the weather only got worse.

但天气只会变得更糟。

We brought the tourists to the community tent and fed them cookies.

我们把游客带到社区帐篷并给他们喂饼干。

Malcolm delivered the solemn news.

马尔科姆传达了这个庄严的消息。

The helicopters were grounded.

直升机停飞。

The storm had blocked their flight path, and immediate rescue was doubtful.

暴风雨挡住了他们的飞行路线,能否立即救援尚存疑问。

No, a man said.

不,一个男人说。

That can't be.

那不可能。

My ship leaves at 8:00.

我的船8:00出发。

Others nodded in agreement.

其他人也点头同意。

The snow, the ice, being trapped-- it wasn't a possibility.

雪、冰、被困住——这是不可能的。

Then the tourists got angry at the guides for bringing them there, at the pilots for misjudging the weather, at the cruise ships for not waiting.

然后,游客们对带他们到那里的导游感到愤怒,对飞行员误判天气,对游轮不等而感到愤怒。

Didn't we understand that this was a serious inconvenience?

难道我们不明白这是一个严重的不便吗?

One woman had left her infant with a baby sitter.

一名妇女将自己的婴儿留给了保姆。

A couple was worried about standing up a dinner date.

一对夫妇担心能否参加晚餐约会。

A few people raised concerns about medication they had left back on the ship.

一些人对他们留在船上的药物表示担忧。

We have a cook, Malcolm said to the tourists.

“我们有一名厨师,”马尔科姆对游客们说。

We have plenty of food and water, and we're going to make this as fun for you as we can.

我们有充足的食物和水,我们将尽我们所能让您感到有趣。

Right now, the mushers will go back out to their dogs.

现在,拉雪橇的人将回到他们的狗身边。

And anyone who wants can go on as many dog sled rides as they'd like.

任何愿意的人都可以多次乘坐狗拉雪橇。

The tourists looked dismayed.

游客们一脸沮丧。

Malcolm gave them a pleasant nod and stepped outside, gesturing for the staff to follow.

马尔科姆愉快地向他们点点头,然后走出去,示意工作人员跟上。

I don't care what you need to do, he whispered once we had gathered around him.

“我不在乎你需要做什么,”当我们聚集在他身边时,他低声说道。

Just keep them happy.

只要让他们开心就好。

Do whatever it takes.

尽一切努力。

Act like this is the best thing that's ever happened to you.

表现得好像这是你经历过的最好的事情。

And for heaven's sake, don't do anything that could get us sued.

看在上帝的份上,不要做任何可能让我们被起诉的事情。

That afternoon passed in a haze of card games, the tourists constantly checking their watches and their useless cell phones.

那天下午,游客们在打牌的迷雾中度过,不断地检查手表和无用的手机。

Someone set up a badminton net in the snow, and a few of the younger tourists played a tournament.

有人在雪地里支起了羽毛球网,几个年轻的游客进行了一场比赛。

Then dusk fell, and it became clear that the tourists would be staying the night.

黄昏降临,游客们显然要留宿了。

Malcolm and the cook delivered the news alongside platters of meatloaf, mashed potatoes, and chocolate cake.

马尔科姆和厨师在传达这一消息的同时,还提供了肉饼、土豆泥和巧克力蛋糕。

Meanwhile, we guides squatted on our heels behind the storage tent and ate sandwiches, too grim to talk.

与此同时,我们的导游蹲在储物帐篷后面,吃着三明治,表情严肃得说不出话来。

The tourists were not happy.

游客们不高兴了。

Here they were dressed in their cruise ship clothes, wearing these weird black overshoes they'd been given to wear on the ice, far away from their toothbrushes, and their pajamas, and their beds, and the breakfast buffets they had already paid for.

在这里,他们穿着游轮服装,穿着他们在冰上穿的奇怪的黑色套鞋,远离他们的牙刷、他们的睡衣、他们的床,以及他们已经付钱的自助早餐。

They didn't understand why they hadn't been rescued.

他们不明白为什么自己没有获救。

They didn't understand why the helicopters couldn't fly at night.

他们不明白为什么直升机不能在夜间飞行。

The storage tent held 30 emergency sleeping bags for just such a situation, although, in 10 years of tours, they'd never been opened.

储物帐篷里有30个应急睡袋,专门应对这种情况,尽管在10年的旅行中,这些睡袋从未被打开过。

Malcolm told the staff that we would be ceding our tents and cots to the guests, as he insisted we call them.

马尔科姆告诉工作人员,我们将把帐篷和婴儿床让给客人,他坚持要求我们这样称呼它们。

He went tent by tent to make sure the quarters were ready.

他逐个帐篷检查,确保宿舍已经准备好。

Put all your stuff in trash bags, he told us.

他告诉我们,把你所有的东西放进垃圾袋里。

And we'll pile it outside.

我们会把它堆在外面。

We want to make sure the guests are comfortable.

我们希望确保客人感到舒适。

Where are we going to sleep, Rebecca asked.

我们要去哪里睡觉,丽贝卡问道。

Malcolm stepped out into the snow.

马尔科姆踏入雪地。

I really don't care, he said.

我真的不在乎,他说。

Rebecca and I ended up sleeping on the floor of the veterinary tent.

丽贝卡和我最后睡在兽医帐篷的地板上。

It reeked of piss and menthol.

它散发着尿液和薄荷醇的气味。

Neither of us could sleep.

我们俩都睡不着。

I whispered, how are you doing?

我小声问,你怎么样?

My flight, she said, voice muffled by her pillow.

我的航班,她说,声音被枕头压住了。

And it took me a moment to follow.

我花了一点时间才跟上。

I had forgotten.

我忘了。

It leaves the day after tomorrow, she said.

后天离开,她说。

I can't get a refund.

我无法获得退款。

I tried to think of something to say, some comfort that would make her feel better, but I was just so tired.

我试着想说什么,安慰一下她,让她感觉好一点,但我实在太累了。

The second day passed like the first, although the Parcheesi players had graduated to poker.

第二天和第一天一样过去,尽管 Parcheesi 玩家已经升级到了扑克。

Every so often, I'd peek into the storage tent to get medical updates.

我时不时地会偷看一下储物帐篷,以获取最新的医疗信息。

One of the other tourists was an insulin-dependent diabetic.

另一位游客是一名胰岛素依赖型糖尿病患者。

If he were stuck on the ice for just one more day, there was a chance he could slip into a coma.

如果他在冰上多呆一天,他就有可能陷入昏迷。

The word was that, back in civilization, a mountain rescue team was mobilizing, ready to cross the frozen wilderness with ropes and ice picks, carrying insulin and other medications in their packs.

有消息称,在文明时代,一支山地救援队正在动员起来,准备带着绳索和冰锥穿越冰冻的荒野,他们的背包里装着胰岛素和其他药物。

But nobody should know any of that, I was reminded.

但有人提醒我,任何人都不应该知道这些。

We had to give the impression that, even though we were trapped, everything was going to be just fine.

我们必须给人留下这样的印象:即使我们被困住了,一切都会好起来的。

The tourists were busy pining for their ships, for the vacations that had been only temporarily interrupted.

游客们忙着怀念他们的船,怀念只是暂时中断的假期。

And I was to keep it that way.

我要保持这种状态。

So I returned to the tourists beaming.

于是我满面笑容地回到了游客身边。

When my face got sore from all the smiling, I retreated from the crowd, back to the diabetic man in one of the sleeping tents.

当我的脸因微笑而变得酸痛时,我从人群中退出,回到睡在一个帐篷里的糖尿病患者身边。

He was middle aged.

他已是中年人了。

I think he was a banker.

我认为他是一名银行家。

He sat on a cot breathing slowly.

他坐在小床上,呼吸缓慢。

At one point, I drew a picture of him, a little sketch that he folded and tucked into his breast pocket.

有一次,我画了一张他的照片,一张他折叠起来塞进胸前口袋的小草图。

Then he took my hand.

然后他握住了我的手。

I'm honored to be spending this time with such a lovely young woman, he said.

“我很荣幸能与如此可爱的年轻女子共度这段时间,”他说。

I squeezed his hand and felt like a liar.

我握紧他的手,感觉自己像个骗子。

Late in the afternoon, we gathered the tourists in the community tent, planning to break the news about a possible second night.

下午晚些时候,我们将游客聚集在社区帐篷里,计划宣布可能的第二晚的消息。

The tourists had been remarkably positive all day.

游客们一整天都非常积极。

They were troopers.

他们是士兵。

Some of the younger tourists even helped feed the dogs, hauling buckets of soupy kibble from plastic igloo to plastic igloo.

一些年轻的游客甚至帮忙喂狗,把一桶桶粘糊糊的粗粮从一个塑料冰屋拖到另一个塑料冰屋。

A few even sounded like they wanted to stay.

有些人甚至听起来他们想留下来。

I can't believe you get paid for this, they said, sipping their cocoa.

“我不敢相信你竟然能得到报酬,”他们一边喝着可可一边说道。

If they could take three months off, they said, they'd love to come work here.

他们说,如果他们可以休息三个月,他们很愿意来这里工作。

This, Malcolm noted, was a resounding success.

马尔科姆指出,这是一次巨大的成功。

Still, I dreaded the possibility that they would stay for a second night.

尽管如此,我还是担心他们会在这里住第二晚。

I thought that would be the breaking point, not just for the diabetic man, but for us, too.

我认为这将是一个转折点,不仅对糖尿病患者来说,对我们来说也是如此。

How long could we keep this up?

我们能保持这种状态多久?

Not long after, we heard a thin rumble in the distance.

不久之后,我们听到远处传来一阵细细的隆隆声。

Everyone froze.

所有人都愣住了。

At first, I thought it was in my own head.

起初,我以为这是我自己的想法。

No one had told us the helicopters were coming.

没有人告诉我们直升机即将到来。

But, as they rounded a mountain on the other side of the ice field, the tourists began to cheer.

但是,当他们绕过冰原另一边的一座山时,游客们开始欢呼起来。

They rushed towards them, stumbling in the snow as the birds landed.

当鸟儿落地时,他们冲向他们,在雪地里跌跌撞撞。

In the sudden excitement, I stepped back and watched from the kennel, sitting on a plastic igloo as the guides helped the diabetic man into the first helicopter and the rest of the tourists into the others.

在突然的兴奋中,我退后一步,坐在塑料冰屋上,坐在狗舍里观看导游帮助糖尿病男子登上第一架直升机,其余游客进入其他直升机。

Rebecca was able to slip onto the last helicopter, waving at me as she climbed aboard.

丽贝卡成功登上了最后一架直升机,登上飞机时向我挥手致意。

We watched the helicopters disappear behind the mountains.

我们看着直升机消失在山后。

In the silence that followed, even the dogs were quiet.

接下来一片寂静,就连狗也安静了。

We'd learn later that the hole in the storm that the helicopters flew through closed up just as fast as it opened, and the last helicopter, the one Rebecca was on, had to make an emergency landing at a lodge near the base of the glacier.

后来我们了解到,直升机飞过的暴风雨中的洞口闭合起来的速度和打开的速度一样快,丽贝卡乘坐的最后一架直升机不得不紧急降落在冰川底部附近的一家小屋。

The rest of us trudged back to the tents without speaking to each other.

我们其余的人拖着沉重的脚步回到帐篷,彼此都没有说话。

There were sleeping bags to pack up, dogs to feed, and trails to groom, and poop to shovel.

有睡袋要收拾,有狗要喂,有小路要梳理,还有要铲屎。

In the morning, the helicopters would return, carrying a new group of tourists to experience real Alaska.

早上,直升机将返回,载着新一批游客体验真正的阿拉斯加。

Though we'd never match the tour we had just given, the tourists who got stuck, they'd paid $500, like all the rest, to experience real Alaska.

尽管我们永远无法与我们刚刚进行的旅行相媲美,但那些被困的游客和其他人一样,还是花了 500 美元来体验真正的阿拉斯加。

And they were the only ones who really got what they came for.

他们是唯一真正得到他们想要的东西的人。

Blair Braverman-- a version of this story is in a book that she's writing that's called, tentatively, "Welcome to the Goddamn Ice Cube".

布莱尔·布雷弗曼(Blair Braverman)——这个故事的一个版本出现在她正在写的一本书中,暂定名为“欢迎来到该死的冰块”。

Next week, The Atavist will publish a longer version of the story.

下周,返祖派将出版这个故事的更长版本。

That's at TheAtavist.com.

这是 TheAtavist.com。

By the way, we spoke to the dog sled company in this story.

顺便说一句,我们在这个故事中采访了狗拉雪橇公司。

They said that they would never do anything to hide information from the tourists, though a former employee of the company did confirm Blair's account.

他们表示,他们永远不会采取任何措施向游客隐瞒信息,尽管该公司的一名前雇员确实证实了布莱尔的说法。

Act Two: Funny Face Ira Glass Act 2, "Funny Face."

第二幕:滑稽面孔 Ira Glass 第二幕,“滑稽面孔”。

OK, most jobs require you to suck it up and keep a game face on, right?

好吧,大多数工作都要求你忍气吞声,保持一副游戏的表情,对吧?

Keep game face on, even while things are going horribly-- that's true for anybody in sales.

即使事情进展得很糟糕,也要保持积极的态度——这对销售人员来说都是如此。

It's true for waiters and waitresses.

对于服务员来说确实如此。

It's true for every kind of performer.

对于每一种表演者来说都是如此。

And, among performers, I think it might be most intense for stand-up comedians, because they're on stage alone.

而且,在表演者中,我认为单口喜剧演员可能是最紧张的,因为他们独自在舞台上。

And, when comedy goes badly, you know, it gets very, very bleak.

而且,当喜剧演得很糟糕时,你知道,它会变得非常非常黯淡。

It gets very lonely.

它变得非常孤独。

And they have to stay up there, doing their job for a group of people that is not into them at all.

他们必须留在那里,为一群根本不喜欢他们的人做他们的工作。

And they have to just keep going.

他们必须继续前进。

They have to keep telling punchlines that just are getting nothing back, just crickets one after another after another.

他们必须不断地讲一些妙语,但什么也得不到,只有蟋蟀一个又一个。

Not long ago, Tig Notaro had some shows like that.

不久前,蒂格·诺塔罗(Tig Notaro)也举办过一些类似的节目。

I performed in Vegas.

我在维加斯表演过。

When you perform in Vegas, you do a week of shows.

当你在维加斯表演时,你会表演一周。

There's two shows a night-- early, late show.

每晚有两场演出——早场和晚场。

You do 14 shows, basically.

基本上你做了14场演出。

And I bombed all 14 shows.

我把所有 14 场演出都搞砸了。

And, in between the shows, I didn't know what to do, because I'm not a huge drinker.

而且,在演出间隙,我不知道该做什么,因为我不是一个酗酒者。

I don't really gamble.

我真的不赌博。

And so, the first night, I decided to go back to my hotel room that was so far away from the venue that I only had enough time to just stand still like this for two minutes, and then walk back to the venue.

于是,第一天晚上,我决定回到我的酒店房间,因为距离会场太远,我只来得及这样站了两分钟,然后步行回会场。

So, after that first night, I decided that I would spend the evening-- in between the early and late show, I'd sit in the back corner of the venue, just have a glass of water while they're cleaning the table tops and vacuuming, getting ready for the late show.

所以,在第一个晚上之后,我决定度过一个晚上——在早场和晚场之间,我会坐在场地的后角,在他们清洁桌面和吸尘器时喝一杯水,为晚场做好准备。

I did that every night for the rest of the week.

这周剩下的时间里我每天晚上都这样做。

And, the last night of the week, my phone rang.

然后,这周的最后一个晚上,我的电话响了。

And it was my agent calling to tell me that the venue had called him to say that they thought it was weird that I was just sitting in the back corner, and could I please go find something else to do.

我的经纪人打电话告诉我,场地给他打电话说他们认为我坐在后面的角落很奇怪,我可以去找点别的事做吗?

Do you know how humiliating that was?

你知道那是多么屈辱吗?

So humiliating-- because you know that call didn't come from some far away headquarters somewhere.

太丢脸了——因为你知道那个电话不是从某个遥远的总部打来的。

It came from someone in that venue, looking through some little window, just like, yeah, tell her to get out of here.

它来自那个场地的某个人,透过一些小窗户往外看,就像,是的,告诉她离开这里。

I'm sick of looking at her face.

我厌倦了看她的脸。

So, again, I didn't know where to go or what to do.

所以,我再次不知道该去哪里或做什么。

So I took the escalator down to the first floor, and there was an ice cream parlor-- or, I don't know, are they called ice cream parlors?

于是我乘自动扶梯到了一楼,那里有一家冰淇淋店——或者,我不知道,他们叫冰淇淋店吗?

You know, take me to the ice cream parlor.

你知道吗,带我去冰淇淋店吧。

I mean, I'm eight years from 50.

我的意思是,我距离 50 岁还有八年。

I don't just sit and have ice cream by myself just like-- and let me be sure to not use my microphone, which is the exact shape of an ice cream cone.

我不会只是坐下来一个人吃冰淇淋——并且让我确保不要使用我的麦克风,因为麦克风的形状与蛋卷冰淇淋一模一样。

So I have my ice cream.

所以我有我的冰淇淋。

And I finish my ice cream.

我吃完了我的冰淇淋。

I go back up the escalator to the venue.

我乘自动扶梯回到会场。

And I do my final show of the week.

我将进行本周的最后一场演出。

And I bomb.

我轰炸了。

I get offstage.

我下台。

I shake hands with the audience members.

我和观众握手。

They're just looking at me like, we hate you.

他们只是看着我,就像我们恨你一样。

I'm just like, feeling is mutual.

我只是觉得,感情是相互的。

I shook hands with the other comedians on the show.

我和节目中的其他喜剧演员握手。

And they were just like, we cannot stand you.

他们就像,我们无法忍受你。

I was like, OK, top hat comedian, you're right.

我当时想,好吧,高帽喜剧演员,你是对的。

I'm horrible.

我太可怕了。

But I went, got paid in the office.

但我去了,在办公室拿到了工资。

And I went back to my hotel room.

然后我就回到了我的酒店房间。

I put on my pajamas, little pants that had little pigs flying all over them.

我穿上睡衣,小裤衩上爬满了小猪。

I looked adorable.

我看起来很可爱。

It was my one small victory of the week.

这是我本周的一个小胜利。

Then I went in to brush my tooth.

然后我就进去刷牙了。

And that is when I caught my reflection in the mirror and saw that I had a full-blown chocolate mustache on [INAUDIBLE].

就在那时,我在镜子中看到了自己的倒影,发现我的[听不清]上有一个成熟的巧克力胡子。

No!

不!

My brain completely replaying everything that evening-- I'm on stage bombing for one hour with a full-blown chocolate mustache on my face.

我的大脑完全重播了那天晚上的一切——我在舞台上狂轰滥炸了一个小时,脸上留着成熟的巧克力胡子。

And then I'm very face to face, intimately shaking hands with the audience members.

然后我就非常面对面地和观众们亲密地握手。

Nobody was like, oh, you have-- no-- just hating me-- shaking hands with the other comedians.

没有人会说,哦,你——不——只是恨我——和其他喜剧演员握手。

Then I go get paid by the guy that I am certain was who made the original phone call telling me to get out of there and find something else to do.

然后我就去拿钱,我确信那个人就是最初打电话告诉我离开那里去找别的事做的人。

Guess who found something else to do?

猜猜谁找到了别的事可做?

Yeah, me.

是的,我。

I went and had a little bit of ice cream for myself.

我去给自己吃了一点冰淇淋。

What was he thinking when I was sitting there in that office with him, a full-grown woman with a full-blown chocolate mustache on my face?

当我和他坐在办公室里时,我是一个成年女人,脸上留着浓密的巧克力色小胡子,他在想什么?

You know, could I not just glance in the mirror before I get on stage?

你知道,上台之前我能不能先照照镜子吗?

What is my checklist before a show?

演出前我的清单是什么?

Belly full of ice cream, check-- head on stage What did he-- did he think I had put on a fake mustache to sneak back into the venue he had kicked me out of?

肚子里装满了冰淇淋,检查——登上舞台,他——他认为我戴上了假胡子,偷偷溜回他把我赶出的场地吗?

Just hopped on stage-- not so funny anymore, is it, Vegas?

刚刚跳上舞台——不再那么有趣了,是吗,维加斯?

They're just like, we never thought you were.

他们就像,我们从没想过你是。

Tig Notaro-- that story is part of the material she's working up for her first HBO comedy special.

Tig Notaro——这个故事是她正在为她的第一部 HBO 喜剧特别节目准备的素材的一部分。

It's called "Tig Notaro, Boyish Girl Interrupted." It airs in August, on Saturday, August 22nd, 10:00 Eastern, exclusively on HBO.

它的名字叫“蒂格·诺塔罗,男孩气的女孩被打扰”。该剧将于 8 月 8 月 22 日星期六东部时间 10:00 在 HBO 独家播出。

Her tour schedule is at TigNation.com.

她的巡演日程可在 TigNation.com 上找到。

Coming up, people who never, ever can actually have a game face, like their bodies prevent that from happening biologically.

接下来,那些永远不会真正拥有一张游戏脸的人,就像他们的身体从生物学上阻止了这种情况的发生一样。

That's in a minute, from Chicago Public Radio, when our program continues.

稍后,芝加哥公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。

It's "This American Life." I'm Ira Glass.

这就是《美国生活》。我是艾拉·格拉斯。

Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme, bring you different kinds of stories on that theme.

当然,我们每周的节目都会选择一个主题,为您带来有关该主题的不同类型的故事。

Today's show-- game face.

今天的节目——游戏脸。

My entire adult life, I've never used the expression game face.

我的整个成年生活,从来没有用过表情游戏脸。

I have no [BLEEP] idea what it means or what you're supposed to--

我不知道这意味着什么或者你应该做什么——

That's legendary Indiana basketball coach Bobby Knight back in a 1992 press conference.

这是印第安纳传奇篮球教练鲍比·奈特 (Bobby Knight) 在 1992 年的新闻发布会上的情景。

And, after he says that he doesn't know what a game face is supposed to be, he makes a series of fake, intense faces-- scowls and grimaces-- ridiculing the idea of a game face.

而且,在他说他不知道游戏脸应该是什么之后,他做出了一系列假装、紧张的表情——皱眉和做鬼脸——嘲笑游戏脸的想法。

The biggest regret of my life is not asking a question that Bobby Knight ever got mad at in a press conference.

我一生中最大的遗憾就是没有在新闻发布会上提出让鲍比·奈特生气的问题。

That's Mike Pesca, one of the hosts of the sports podcast "Hang Up and Listen," also the host of the daily podcast "The Gist with Mike Pesca." He's the person who told me about the apparently very famous Bobby Knight quote about game face.

他就是迈克·佩斯卡 (Mike Pesca),他是体育播客“挂起听”的主持人之一,也是每日播客“迈克·佩斯卡要点”的主持人。他是告诉我关于游戏面孔的著名鲍比·奈特名言的人。

He meant it to say it's a ridiculous notion that real athletes don't have.

他的意思是说这是一个真正的运动员所不具备的荒谬观念。

And what I feel--

而我的感受是——

Because his attitude was just, like, we're out there doing our jobs.

因为他的态度就是,我们只是在外面做我们的工作。

we're intense people doing a job.

我们是工作热情高涨的人。

We're not putting on a mask.

我们不戴口罩。

That's right.

这是正确的。

And, as I think about it, Bobby Knight was like that all the time.

而且,据我所知,鲍比·奈特一直都是这样。

And so a lot of these guys-- not everyone, but a lot of these guys-- they don't have game face.

因此,这些人中的很多人——不是所有人,而是很多人——他们都没有脸上的表情。

That's what they live.

这就是他们的生活。

If you're an intense, competitive person, that's how you live.

如果你是一个热情、好胜的人,那就是你的生活方式。

The fact is, though, not all athletes feel the way that Bobby Knight did about this.

但事实是,并非所有运动员都像鲍比·奈特(Bobby Knight)对此有同样的感受。

Some of them consciously cultivate their game faces, Pesca says.

佩斯卡说,他们中的一些人有意识地培养自己的游戏面孔。

They talk about wanting to intimidate.

他们谈论想要恐吓。

So Dennis Eckersley, a great relief pitcher-- he had a long, flowing black mustache.

丹尼斯·埃克斯利(Dennis Eckersley)是一名出色的替补投手,他留着长长的、飘逸的黑胡子。

And he would talk about his own self-image as Black Bart, as a bad cowboy who came to town.

他会谈论自己作为黑巴特的自我形象,作为一个来到镇上的坏牛仔。

And he was going to mow down the opposition.

他要消灭反对派。

Randy Johnson, who is an extremely tall major league pitcher, would lean out over the mound.

兰迪·约翰逊是一位身材极高的大联盟投手,他会在投手丘上探出身子。

And he had a scowl on his face.

而他的脸上却满是愁容。

And I also think there is a classic predator and prey situation.

我还认为存在典型的捕食者和猎物的情况。

You know, in nature, predators have their eyes closer to their nose.

你知道,在自然界中,掠食者的眼睛离鼻子更近。

Prey have their eyes on either side.

猎物的眼睛长在两侧。

And I think, when Randy Johnson is scowling at you, you feel fear.

我认为,当兰迪·约翰逊对你皱眉时,你会感到恐惧。

Other players with great game faces that Mike pointed to-- Bob Gibson from the Cardinals, Roger Clemens, John Starks and Charles Oakley of the Knicks, Dan Marino of the Miami Dolphins, Mike Singletary of the Chicago Bears.

迈克指出的其他具有出色比赛面孔的球员包括红雀队的鲍勃·吉布森、尼克斯队的罗杰·克莱门斯、约翰·斯塔克斯和查尔斯·奥克利、迈阿密海豚队的丹·马里诺、芝加哥熊队的迈克·辛格特里。

When it comes to the player with the greatest game face in sports, the game faciest game face, we went on a search.

当谈到体育界最伟大的比赛面孔、最有比赛面孔的球员时,我们进行了搜索。

And we believe that it is none of those guys.

我们相信这些人都不是。

We nominate a hockey player, an old school guy.

我们提名一名曲棍球运动员,一名老同学。

So, in this week's show, we're going to make the case for Terry Sawchuk.

因此,在本周的节目中,我们将为 Terry Sawchuk 辩护。

Good case-- sad case.

好案例——悲惨案例。

Ira Glass Why sad?

艾拉·格拉斯为什么悲伤?

Terry Sawchuk played-- he was one of the best goalies in NHL history.

特里·索查克 (Terry Sawchuk) 是 NHL 历史上最好的守门员之一。

And he played in an era-- a benighted era-- where it was all about toughness.

他所处的时代——一个愚昧的时代——一切都在于坚韧。

And we can't believe this, but goalies didn't wear masks.

我们简直不敢相信,守门员竟然没有戴口罩。

The game wasn't any different.

游戏并没有什么不同。

The puck wasn't any softer, just goalies didn't wear masks.

冰球并没有变得更软,只是守门员没有戴口罩。

So there were no protective masks.

所以没有防护口罩。

And Sawchuk was this relentless guy who won four Stanley cups and was injured so many times that, at some point, Life Magazine did this photo of his face where a makeup artist and a doctor basically just recreated all the scars and all the places that he had been stitched up.

索丘克是一个无情的人,他赢得了四次斯坦利杯,并且多次受伤,以至于在某个时候,《生活》杂志拍了这张他脸上的照片,化妆师和医生基本上只是重现了所有伤疤和所有被缝合的地方。

And when you see it, he looks like Frankenstein.

当你看到它时,他看起来就像弗兰肯斯坦。

It's hard to see it and not think Frankenstein.

看到它而不去思考弗兰肯斯坦是很难的。

And his face took so many of these injuries because of something that Sawchuk is famous for inventing, a way of being a goalie that actually took his unmasked face and put it directly into the line of fire.

他的脸之所以受到如此多的伤害,是因为索丘克发明了一种著名的东西,一种作为守门员的方式,实际上把他裸露的脸直接扔进了火线。

Before Terry came along in 1950 in the NHL, goalies tended to stand and bend a little wee bit at the knee.

1950 年特里加入 NHL 之前,守门员往往站立并稍微弯曲膝盖。

That's David Dupuis, who wrote a biography of Terry Sawchuk.

那是大卫·杜普伊斯 (David Dupuis),他写了一本特里·索查克 (Terry Sawchuk) 的传记。

He says that stance meant the goalie's head was higher than the top of the goal.

他说,这种姿势意味着守门员的头部高于球门的顶部。

But Sawchuk bent over.

但索丘克弯下了腰。

He bent over at the middle.

他在中间弯下腰。

If you've watched a professional hockey game in the last, like, half a century, pretty much any goalie you see is imitating Sawchuk.

如果你在过去半个世纪里看过职业曲棍球比赛,你看到的几乎所有守门员都在模仿索丘克。

Almost parallel to the ice.

几乎与冰平行。

His wife Pat used to tell him that she thought she could put a cup of coffee on his back, and it wouldn't get spilled.

他的妻子帕特曾经告诉他,她认为她可以把一杯咖啡放在他的背上,咖啡就不会洒出来。

And his face would be low, creating a great sense of gravity, helped him to move laterally.

而且他的脸会很低,产生很大的重力感,帮助他横向移动。

But it put his face directly-- almost the first thing in line with the puck.

但这让他的脸直接接触到了——几乎是第一个与冰球成一直线的地方。

It was a great show of courage, but it tended to help his getting 600 facial stitches.

这是勇气的表现,但也帮助他缝了 600 针面部针。

Yeah, how often was he hit by the puck?

是啊,他被冰球击中的次数是多少?

How often was his face hit?

他的脸被打了多少次?

Well, 600 facial stitches-- I would guess probably maybe 20 times a season, sometimes excessive enough that-- remember the Red Wing doctor, Dr. John Finley, telling me that one time Terry had been hit in the nose so severely that the front cartilage was tore, almost hanging by a thread.

嗯,面部缝了 600 针——我猜可能一个赛季缝了 20 次,有时甚至太多了——还记得红翼队的医生约翰·芬利博士告诉我,有一次特里的鼻子被严重击中,前软骨被撕裂,几乎被一根线吊着。

That is, half his nose almost came off his face.

就是说,他的半个鼻子都快从脸上掉下来了。

And he stitched it back on.

然后他把它缝回去。

And I remember him saying that you or I, in our profession, or any profession, would be sidelined for weeks.

我记得他说过,你或我,无论从事我们的职业,还是任何职业,都将缺席数周。

He sutured Terry up, and Terry went right back out and played the rest of the game.

他给特里缝合了伤口,特里就回去参加了剩下的比赛。

All set to go now, Stankowski with [INAUDIBLE]

一切准备就绪,斯坦科夫斯基带着[听不清]

Here's a not unusual day at work for Sawchuk, a playoff game from 1967 against the Chicago Blackhawks.

对于 Sawchuk 来说,这是不寻常的一天,这是 1967 年季后赛对阵芝加哥黑鹰队的比赛。

[INAUDIBLE] to Bobby Howe.

[听不清] 致鲍比·豪。

There's the shot.

镜头就在这儿。

Oh, and Sawchuk was hit and knocked flat.

哦,索丘克被击中并被撞倒。

Terry Sawchuk took that tremendous blast off the stick of Bobby Hull-- boom, down goes Sawchuk.

特里·索丘克(Terry Sawchuk)从鲍比·赫尔(Bobby Hull)的棍子上接下了巨大的爆炸——轰,索丘克倒下了。

What a tremendous shot from short range.

近距离射门真是太棒了。

The way he went down, Bill, it-- well, we watch him get up now.

比尔,他倒下的样子——好吧,我们现在看着他站起来。

Get a good look at Terry Sawchuk.

好好看看特里·索查克。

He's got bruises all over his body from other shots taken in this series.

他全身都是在这个系列中拍摄的其他照片中留下的瘀伤。

Watching him in the dressing room the other night, one shoulder was yellow, and blue, and orange-- every color in the rainbow, it appeared.

那天晚上在更衣室里看着他,他的一个肩膀是黄色的、蓝色的、橙色的——彩虹里的每一种颜色。

And it was that same left shoulder.

也是同一个左肩。

Off the ice, Sawchuk's life was pretty tragic.

在冰场之外,索丘克的生活相当悲惨。

Dupuis talked to people close to him, and he says that Sawchuk was an alcoholic for his whole career, mentally abusive to his kids and wife, a vicious drunk who would rant, and rave, and throw things.

杜普伊斯与他身边的人交谈过,他说索丘克在整个职业生涯中都是一个酒鬼,对他的孩子和妻子进行精神虐待,是一个恶毒的醉汉,他会咆哮、胡言乱语、扔东西。

He died at 40 from medical complications that he got after a fight with a teammate.

40 岁时,他因与队友打架后出现并发症而去世。

The fight was over nothing-- some bills, Dupuis says.

杜普伊斯说,这场争斗没有任何意义,只是为了一些法案。

I mean, that's what it started as, anyway.

我的意思是,无论如何,事情就是这样开始的。

It began at the bar and continued at their rented house.

事情从酒吧开始,一直到他们租的房子。

They're swinging at each other, and Terry falls on a part of a barbecue.

他们互相挥舞,特里摔倒在烧烤架的一部分上。

And then he realizes he's badly hurt.

然后他意识到自己受了重伤。

He's got an injury to his abdomen.

他的腹部受伤了。

Yeah, it's senseless.

是的,这毫无意义。

Ira Glass You know, the whole idea of a game face implies that somebody's putting it on, like they're putting on like-- you know, like they're acting.

艾拉·格拉斯(Ira Glass):你知道,游戏面孔的整个概念意味着有人把它戴上,就像他们在表演一样——你知道,就像他们在表演一样。

But with him, do you feel like he was ever acting on the ice?

但和他在一起,你有没有感觉他曾经在冰上表演过?

No. No, never.

不,不,从来没有。

What you saw is what you got.

你所看到的就是你所得到的。

He was intense.

他很激烈。

There's no doubt about it.

毫无疑问。

He was intense.

他很激烈。

And it's funny.

这很有趣。

Sometimes, before a game, he would look to a teammate and said, hey boys, I only need two tonight.

有时,在比赛前,他会看着队友说,嘿,伙计们,我今晚只需要两个。

And they would end up winning the game 2-1.

他们最终以2-1赢得了比赛。

All right, in other words, you just need to score two points, and we'll win.

好吧,换句话说,你只要得两分,我们就赢了。

Yep, two goals-- just get me two goals, and we're going to win this thing.

是的,两个进球——只要让我两个进球,我们就能赢得这场比赛。

In 1962, Sawchuk decided to start wearing a goalie's mask.

1962年,索丘克决定开始戴守门员面具。

Barely any goalies were doing it back then.

当时几乎没有守门员这样做。

But he was so tough, Dupuis says, everybody else felt like it was now OK for them to start as well.

但杜普伊斯说,他太强硬了,其他人都觉得现在他们也可以开始了。

And they did.

他们做到了。

Since then, hockey goalies don't put their faces in direct danger the same way Sawchuk did.

从那时起,曲棍球守门员不再像索丘克那样将自己的脸置于直接危险之中。

So none of them can come close to the game faciest game face in the sport.

所以他们都无法接近这项运动中最精彩的比赛面孔。

Act Four: Frankly Miss Scarlet Ira Glass Act 4, "Frankly, Miss Scarlett." so a few weeks ago, at a story meeting, everybody here at the radio show-- we were sitting around talking about this week's episode and what game face is all about.

第四幕:坦白说,斯嘉丽小姐 艾拉·格拉斯 第四幕,“坦白说,斯嘉丽小姐”。所以几周前,在一次故事会议上,广播节目中的每个人都坐在一起讨论本周的剧集以及游戏面孔的全部内容。

And one of people who works here, Elna Baker, raised the whole idea of blushing, how blushing is the opposite of game face.

在这里工作的人之一埃尔娜·贝克(Elna Baker)提出了脸红的整个想法,脸红与游戏中的脸是相反的。

The world sees exactly what you're thinking and what you're feeling, especially for people who blush a lot.

世界可以准确地看到你的想法和感受,尤其是对于那些经常脸红的人。

In fact, there's a whole kind of blushing that's known as chronic or pathological blushing.

事实上,有一种脸红被称为慢性或病理性脸红。

And there are medical papers about this.

有关于此的医学论文。

There are online forums.

有在线论坛。

People who blush many times each day-- basically, they have an overactive nervous system.

每天脸红很多次的人——基本上,他们的神经系统过于活跃。

Their blushing mechanism is on a hair trigger.

他们的脸红机制是一触即发。

So anyway, sitting there talking about all this.

所以无论如何,坐在那里谈论这一切。

And finally Elna said she has it.

最后艾尔娜说她拥有了。

And a bunch of use are like, wait, you have it?

一堆用途就像,等等,你有它吗?

At which point Elna-- she didn't say anything.

这时艾尔娜——她什么也没说。

She unwraps this black scarf that she'd been wearing on her neck.

她解开脖子上的黑色围巾。

And, you know, the skin right below her neck-- they were just covered with red blotches.

而且,你知道,她脖子下面的皮肤——上面布满了红色斑点。

Now I've known Elna for like five or six years and, until this moment, it never occurred to me that, like a person who's been bitten by a vampire in a bad movie, Elna is always wearing a scarf or a turtleneck.

现在我认识艾尔娜已经有五六年了,直到这一刻,我从来没有想到,就像一部烂电影中被吸血鬼咬过的人一样,艾尔娜总是戴着围巾或高领毛衣。

And Elna told all of us she'd been thinking about getting surgery.

埃尔娜告诉我们所有人她一直在考虑接受手术。

Yes, there's surgery which can make you stop blushing.

是的,有一种手术可以让你不再脸红。

And she'd been talking about it with friends.

她一直在和朋友谈论这件事。

And she'd even made an appointment to consult with a doctor about it, at which point another producer on staff, Sean Cole, said he'd researched the surgery for a story that he never ended up doing years ago.

她甚至预约了一位医生就此事进行咨询,此时另一位制作人肖恩·科尔(Sean Cole)表示,他已经研究了手术的故事,但几年前他从未最终完成过这个故事。

And he remembered that it had these possible serious side effects.

他记得它可能有这些严重的副作用。

And he wondered, was Elna really seriously considering this?

他想知道,艾尔娜真的认真考虑过这件事吗?

And he said, if she was, he could help her research whether this was a good idea or not and decided she should do it.

他说,如果她是,他可以帮助她研究这是否是一个好主意,并决定她应该这样做。

And so, with that in mind, Sean has this report.

因此,肖恩考虑到这一点,编写了这份报告。

So the first thing you need to understand about Elna's blushing is that it's not really what you think of when you think of blushing.

所以关于艾尔娜的脸红,你首先需要明白的是,当你想到脸红时,它并不是你真正想到的那样。

She doesn't go red in the face all of a sudden when something embarrassing happens.

当发生尴尬的事情时,她不会突然脸红。

Instead, the redness comes on slowly, starting on her chest, and working its way up her neck to her face and ears.

相反,红色慢慢地出现,从她的胸部开始,一直向上延伸到她的脖子到她的脸和耳朵。

And it can catch her by surprise sometimes.

有时这会让她感到惊讶。

Like it just happened yesterday in the shower.

就像昨天刚洗澡时发生的一样。

In the shower?

在淋浴时?

Elna Baker Yeah, I was showering.

艾尔娜·贝克 是的,我正在洗澡。

And I looked down.

我低下头。

I'm like, why am I broken into hives?

我想,为什么我会出荨麻疹?

Or not hives-- I have to stop calling it that.

或者不是荨麻疹——我必须停止这么称呼它。

But they're hive-like.

但它们就像蜂巢一样。

Elna Baker Hive-like red splotches-- you can really see it, because the splotches almost look like countries all over me as they grow.

埃尔娜·贝克(Elna Baker)蜂巢般的红色斑点——你真的可以看到它,因为随着它们的生长,这些斑点几乎看起来就像我身上的国家。

Yes.

是的。

Sean Cole But does it seem like it's like a social-- you're checking your chest to see if it's happening now.

肖恩·科尔:但这看起来像社交活动吗?你正在检查你的胸部,看看它现在是否正在发生。

That's the one that I said was the-- like, when that one starts--

这就是我所说的——就像,当那个开始时——

Oh, that's the canary in the coal mine one.

哦,那是煤矿里的金丝雀。

Yeah, that's the trigger one.

是的,这就是触发点。

Sean Cole Wow, it always starts with one particular part of your chest.

肖恩·科尔 哇,它总是从你胸部的某个特定部位开始。

Yep.

是的。

Sean Cole And it's just because you're talking about it.

肖恩·科尔:这只是因为你在谈论它。

Mhm.

嗯。

Sean Cole This has caused a real problem in terms of Elna's job.

肖恩·科尔:这给埃尔娜的工作带来了真正的问题。

She only works on our show for part of the week.

她每周只有部分时间在我们的节目中工作。

A lot of her life involves being on stage.

她一生的大部分时间都在舞台上。

She's made appearances at the storytelling show "The Moth." She's gone on tours with "The Moth." She auditions for commercials and other acting gigs, and sometimes gets those parts.

她出现在讲故事节目“飞蛾”中。她和“The Moth”一起巡演。她试镜广告和其他表演节目,有时还能得到这些角色。

So I'm heading into my show.

所以我要开始我的表演了。

Sean Cole I asked her to record herself as she went around during the day, to see how much she blushes.

肖恩·科尔(Sean Cole)我让她记录一下自己白天走动的情况,看看她脸红了多少。

And here she's just arriving at a storytelling event.

她刚刚来到这里参加一个讲故事的活动。

And, in anticipation, on the subway, I already broke into hives, so I am arriving with hives on my chest already, because I'm nervous that I'm going to break into hives when I perform, because I will.

而且,在预期中,在地铁上,我已经爆发了荨麻疹,所以我到达时胸口已经有了荨麻疹,因为我很紧张,因为我会在表演时爆发荨麻疹,因为我会的。

Now there's a name for the thought process Elna just described, and it's a word I love-- erythrophobia.

现在,埃尔娜刚才描述的思维过程有了一个名字,也是我喜欢的一个词——恐红症。

It literally means fear of the color red, but it can also mean fear of blushing.

它的字面意思是害怕红色,但它也可能意味着害怕脸红。

That is, you worry you're going to blush.

也就是说,你担心自己会脸红。

And then the worry makes you blush.

然后担心会让你脸红。

And then you're embarrassed that you're blushing, and so you blush harder, and so on.

然后你会因为自己脸红而感到尴尬,所以你脸红得更厉害,等等。

I wish that you didn't have to know how I was feeling, like you didn't have to see it.

我希望你不必知道我的感受,就像你不必看到它一样。

I have a tell.

我有话要说。

I have a huge tell all over me, and I'm wearing it all the time.

我全身上下都有一个巨大的标志,而且我一直戴着它。

When you research this condition, you can find stories of people going to extreme measures to hide their blushing.

当你研究这种情况时,你会发现人们采取极端措施来隐藏脸红的故事。

I heard about more than one blusher who deliberately got a sunburn before having to make a presentation.

我听说不止一位腮红在做演讲之前故意晒伤。

One woman would only agree to meet people in bars where the lights were red.

一位女士只同意在红灯的酒吧里与人见面。

Another, who was planning her wedding, visited 60 churches looking for the one with the shortest distance between the curb and the front door, so the fewest number of strangers would see her walking in in her dress.

另一位正在筹划婚礼的人走访了 60 座教堂,寻找路边和前门之间距离最短的教堂,这样陌生人就会看到她穿着礼服走进去。

Yet another blusher, who was an engineer, carried around this electrical device he built himself and would shock himself to try to keep from turning red.

另一位脸红者是一名工程师,随身携带着他自己制造的电子设备,他会电击自己,以免脸红。

And it didn't work.

但它不起作用。

Many chronic blushers will go out of their way to avoid people.

许多长期脸红的人会想方设法避开人群。

They withdraw.

他们撤退。

Some develop serious depression.

有些人出现严重的抑郁症。

And a few years ago-- you might have read about this in the news-- there was a student at the University of Washington in Seattle who felt tortured by his blushing.

几年前——你可能在新闻中读到过这件事——西雅图华盛顿大学的一名学生因脸红而感到痛苦。

His dorm room was on the 11th floor, but he always took the stairs so that he didn't have to risk blushing in front of people in the elevator.

他的宿舍在11楼,但他总是走楼梯,这样他就不用冒着在电梯里的人面前脸红的风险。

Finally, one day, he wrote a five-page letter to his family and threw himself off the 11th floor balcony.

终于有一天,他给家人写了一封长达五页的信,然后从11楼的阳台上跳了下去。

In the letter, he said, quote, it's exhausting to wake up every day and have to find little ways to avoid blushing situations.

他在信中说,每天醒来都让人筋疲力尽,而且必须找到一些方法来避免脸红的情况。

Elna blushes about three or four times a day.

艾尔娜每天大约会脸红三四次。

It used to be less, but something happened about a year and a half ago that made the problem a lot worse.

以前较少,但大约一年半前发生的事情使问题变得更加严重。

She was auditioning for a sitcom, a very big role, and a role that mirrored her life in a lot of ways.

她正在试镜一部情景喜剧,一个非常重要的角色,一个在很多方面反映她生活的角色。

She really wanted the part.

她真的很想要这个角色。

The producers really wanted her to have the part.

制片人真的希望她能出演这个角色。

And it mattered so much to her that she threw all of her will into not blushing.

这对她来说是如此重要,以至于她投入了所有的意志来不脸红。

She repeated to herself, over and over, you're not going to blush.

她一遍又一遍地对自己重复,你不会脸红的。

You're not going to blush.

你不会脸红的。

You can probably guess what happened.

你大概能猜到发生了什么。

The head of the network watched Elna's test and said she looked too nervous on camera.

该网络负责人观看了埃尔娜的测试,并表示她在镜头前看起来太紧张了。

She says, after that happened, she sort of threw up her hands.

她说,那件事发生后,她有点举手了。

Oh, so that was a moment where you felt like it had won.

哦,所以那一刻你感觉它赢了。

It won, yeah.

它赢了,是的。

But then it also makes me think the only way to fix it is to get this surgery.

但这也让我认为解决这个问题的唯一方法就是接受手术。

So the surgery-- Elna's been weighing the pros and cons of it for a while.

所以手术——艾尔娜已经权衡了它的利弊一段时间了。

And I wanted to see if I could help her land on one side or the other.

我想看看我是否可以帮助她降落在一侧或另一侧。

The operation itself has another name I love.

该手术本身还有另一个我喜欢的名字。

It's called an endoscopic thoracic sympathectomy, or ETS.

这称为内窥镜胸交感神经切除术(ETS)。

That is, they tunnel a little camera, a scope, through small incisions in your upper torso or thorax, thoracic, and they cut out your sympathy.

也就是说,他们通过你上躯干或胸部的小切口插入一个小相机,一个瞄准镜,然后他们切断你的同情心。

I'm kidding.

我在开玩笑。

They burn out part of what's called your sympathetic nerve on both sides of your body.

它们会烧毁身体两侧的部分交感神经。

It's responsible for blushing and also sweating in your face and hands.

它会导致你的脸和手脸红、出汗。

It was actually pioneered to cure excessively sweaty palms.

它实际上是首创用于治疗手掌出汗的。

And then they figured out it works for blushing, too.

然后他们发现它也适用于脸红。

So what have you thought-- like, what is the conversation in your head about the surgery?

那么你有什么想法——比如,你脑子里关于手术的对话是什么?

I want to get it.

我想得到它。

I think the only thing is I don't want a droopy eye.

我想唯一的事情是我不想下垂的眼睛。

That's one of the potential side effects.

这是潜在的副作用之一。

Your eyelid hangs kind of low.

你的眼睑垂得很低。

It's also called Horner's syndrome, but it's pretty rare.

它也被称为霍纳综合症,但非常罕见。

The doctor told me that there was a 1% probability of me developing the Horner's syndrome.

医生告诉我,我有 1% 的可能性患上霍纳氏综合症。

I talked with a few people who actually had the surgery, to see how it worked out for them, starting with this guy, Enrique Jadresic.

我和一些真正接受过手术的人进行了交谈,看看手术对他们来说效果如何,首先是恩里克·贾德雷西奇(Enrique Jadresic)。

I am a former chronic blusher.

我以前是一个慢性脸红者。

And the other thing, which I find interesting, is that I am a doctor.

另一件我觉得有趣的事情是我是一名医生。

He's a psychiatrist in Santiago, Chile.

他是智利圣地亚哥的一名精神科医生。

He now treats other blushers in his practice.

现在,他在诊所中治疗其他腮红。

And he also wrote one of very few books you can find about the condition, part of which is about his own struggles with the problem.

他还写了一本关于这种情况的极少数书籍,其中一部分是关于他自己与这个问题的斗争。

He told me about this one time he was teaching at his university.

有一次他在大学教书时,他告诉我这件事。

And, out of nowhere-- he doesn't remember why-- he turned red in the face.

然后,不知为何——他不记得为什么——他的脸突然变红了。

And a student, who was maybe 22 years old, looked up at him and said, oh professor, you've gone into the cherry tree again, which I guess sounds better in Spanish.

一个大约 22 岁的学生抬头看着他说,哦教授,你又钻进樱桃树了,我想这用西班牙语听起来更好。

And that was awful.

那太糟糕了。

I mean, for me who-- I was an authority, you see?

我的意思是,对我来说,我是权威,你明白吗?

Yeah.

是的。

Enrique Jadresic I was supposed to be the one who knew everything, you see?

恩里克·贾德雷西克 我应该是那个无所不知的人,你明白吗?

The cherry tree.

樱桃树。

Enrique Jadresic That's very uncomfortable.

Enrique Jadresic 这非常不舒服。

Every time Dr. Jadresic was out and about, he was constantly looking around for people he knew, worried that someone might come up out of nowhere and say hello, which would make him blush.

每次贾德雷西奇医生外出时,他都会不断地四处寻找他认识的人,担心有人突然冒出来打招呼,这会让他脸红。

It was exhausting.

太累了。

And then he was asked to run for president of this big Chilean psychiatric and neurology society.

然后他被要求竞选这个智利精神病学和神经病学大协会的主席。

It was the equivalent of Elna's TV audition.

这相当于艾尔娜的电视试镜。

But he hesitated, because he knew he'd have to travel and make appearances in front of people.

但他犹豫了,因为他知道他必须旅行并出现在人们面前。

It was around that time that he read about the surgery in a Chilean newspaper.

就在那时,他在一份智利报纸上读到了这次手术的消息。

And, about two months after he had the operation--

而且,在他接受手术大约两个月后——

I went to a pharmacy.

我去了药房。

And the lady who was selling at the pharmacy said, oh Dr. Jadresic, how are you?

药房销售的那位女士说,哦,贾德雷西克医生,你好吗?

And everybody turned to me to see me.

每个人都转向我来看我。

And she said-- and she would speak very loudly.

她说——而且她会大声说话。

I don't know why.

我不知道为什么。

But she would speak very loudly.

但她说话的声音很大。

And she said, oh Dr. Jadresic, are you still considered one of the most handsome mens at the teaching hospital where I knew you?

她说,哦,贾德雷西奇医生,你还被认为是我认识你的教学医院里最英俊的男人之一吗?

And I couldn't believe it, but I didn't blush.

我简直不敢相信,但我并没有脸红。

Wow.

哇。

Enrique Jadresic And that told me, of course, that the operation had been successful.

恩里克·贾德雷西克 当然,这告诉我手术很成功。

Since then, Dr. Jadresic has become something of an expert on blushers and blushing.

从那时起,Jadresic 博士就成为了腮红和腮红方面的专家。

He's seen about 800 blushers in his practice, read up on different theories as to why we blush.

他在实践中见过大约 800 个脸红者,研究了关于我们脸红原因的不同理论。

Charles Darwin wrote a whole chapter on blushing in his book, "The Expression of Emotions in Man and Animals." He starts off, quote, "Blushing is the most peculiar and most human of all expressions." So no other animal does it.

查尔斯·达尔文在他的著作《人和动物的情感表达》中写了整整一章关于脸红的内容。他首先引用了一句话:“脸红是所有表达方式中最奇特、最人性化的。”所以没有其他动物这样做。

Dr. Jadresic and other people in his field think maybe people blush to signal to the group, I know I screwed up.

贾德雷西奇博士和他所在领域的其他人认为,也许人们脸红是为了向团队发出信号,我知道我搞砸了。

Don't attack me.

别攻击我。

So it's a protective measure.

所以这是一种保护措施。

Blushers are very respectful of others, Jadresic says-- very nice people, overall.

贾德雷西奇说,脸红者非常尊重他人——总的来说,他们都是非常好的人。

People who blush are very empathic.

会脸红的人是非常有同理心的。

They put themselves in the pants of people in front of them.

他们设身处地为面前的人着想。

In the pants-- Enrique Jadresic And you know, in psychiatry, the opposite-- the complete opposite-- would be the psychopath.

在裤子里——恩里克·贾德雷西克(Enrique Jadresic) 你知道,在精神病学中,相反的——完全相反的——就是精神病患者。

Psychopaths never blush.

精神病患者从不脸红。

The empathy thing is certainly true of Elna.

艾尔娜身上确实有同理心。

I could be watching a TV show, and something happens to someone on the show.

我可能正在看电视节目,节目中的某个人发生了一些事情。

And I'll look down, and I'll be blushing on behalf of this embarrassing thing that happened to a person on the screen.

我会低下头,我会因为屏幕上的一个人发生的这件尴尬的事情而脸红。

I mean, that seems like a really nice quality.

我的意思是,这似乎是一个非常好的品质。

But maybe I care too much.

但也许是我太在乎了。

Maybe it would be good to have the edge taken off.

也许去掉边缘会更好。

Dr. Jadresic didn't develop Horner's syndrome, the droopy eye.

贾德雷西克医生并没有患上霍纳综合症,即眼下垂。

But he does have to cope with a really common side effect of the sympathectomy.

但他确实必须应对交感神经切除术的一个非常常见的副作用。

He doesn't sweat from his head or his hands.

他的头上或手上没有出汗。

The operation cuts off the sweat response in those two places.

手术切断了这两个地方的出汗反应。

So your body compensates by sweating in weirder places, like your chest, back, groin, and feet.

因此,你的身体会通过在更奇怪的地方出汗来进行补偿,比如胸部、背部、腹股沟和脚部。

Dr. Jadresic says you especially need to bear that in mind if you live in a hot climate.

贾德雷西克博士说,如果你生活在炎热的气候中,你尤其需要记住这一点。

Elna was unfazed.

艾尔娜不为所动。

Well I've never been a sweater.

好吧,我从来没有穿过毛衣。

I don't have problems with sweating.

我没有出汗的问题。

Yet-- Elna Baker Yet-- to me it seems easier to hide sweating than blushing.

然而——埃尔娜·贝克然而——对我来说,隐藏出汗似乎比脸红更容易。

I don't know.

我不知道。

I feel like we're underestimating the level of sweating that we're talking about.

我觉得我们低估了我们所说的出汗程度。

But see, I don't care about the feeling.

但你看,我不在乎这种感觉。

I could feel sweaty.

我能感觉到出汗。

And, as long as you didn't have to know or see, then I could keep faking it.

而且,只要你不必知道或看到,那么我就可以继续假装。

That's the-- this ruins my ability to fake it.

这就是——这破坏了我伪造它的能力。

The surgery can also lower your heart rate which, by most accounts, is not noticeable, unless you're like an Olympic athlete.

手术还可以降低您的心率,但在大多数情况下,这并不明显,除非您像奥运会运动员一样。

But this one guy I talked to, who's pretty athletic, likes to run in the morning, says, yeah, he noticed it.

但我采访过的一个人,他非常运动,喜欢早上跑步,他说,是的,他注意到了这一点。

And that is by far not the worst thing that happened to him after the surgery.

到目前为止,这还不是手术后发生在他身上最糟糕的事情。

He didn't want his real name used.

他不想让他的真名被使用。

I'll call him Rich.

我会叫他里奇。

Like Elna, he has a "there was a moment when the blushing won" story.

和艾尔娜一样,他也有一个“有那么一刻,脸红获胜”的故事。

He had to give this presentation at school and just couldn't-- physically couldn't.

他必须在学校做这个演讲,但他做不到——身体上做不到。

So we high-tailed it out of the building and dropped the course.

所以我们把它高高地甩出大楼并放弃了路线。

Not long after that, his father helped him pay for the operation.

不久之后,他的父亲帮他支付了手术费。

And, after the surgery, I felt like I had a superpower, like I was invincible.

手术后,我感觉自己拥有了超能力,所向无敌。

I could speak up again.

我可以再次发言。

I was in a philosophy class.

我当时正在上哲学课。

I argued with the teacher just for the sake of arguing.

我只是为了争论而和老师争论。

It was just great.

真是太棒了。

It was a great-- very great while it lasted.

当它持续的时候,这真是太棒了。

Everything was fine for a while.

有一段时间一切都很好。

But, about five or six months after the surgery, Rich was at home.

但是,手术后大约五六个月,里奇就在家了。

And there was a kind of family reunion going on at his house.

他家里正在进行一场家庭聚会。

And my mother hugged me, like in front of a lot of people.

我妈妈拥抱了我,就像在很多人面前一样。

And that caused me to become embarrassed.

这让我变得很尴尬。

And, out of nowhere, I felt my face turn red again.

不知怎的,我感觉自己的脸又红了。

The problem just came back full force.

问题又来了。

Rich isn't sure what happened.

里奇不确定发生了什么。

He had a different version of the surgery, where they clamp the nerve instead of cutting it.

他进行了不同版本的手术,他们夹住神经而不是切断它。

But still, it should have worked.

但它仍然应该有效。

It's possible they didn't clamp the nerve in the right place.

可能他们没有将神经夹在正确的位置。

There are other cases like this, where the surgery failed, which is another thing I told Elna to keep in mind.

还有其他类似的手术失败的情况,这是我告诉艾尔娜要记住的另一件事。

In any case, Rich was back at square one and literally thought he was going to lose his mind.

不管怎样,里奇又回到了原点,他真的认为自己快要疯了。

And then a psychiatrist prescribed him Prozac.

然后精神科医生给他开了百忧解。

It waters you down.

它会让你失望。

It waters me down enough to where I don't have a blushing problem anymore.

它使我的情绪下降到不再有脸红问题的程度。

Really?

真的吗?

Rich Yeah, the Prozac-- that has cured me.

Rich 是的,百忧解——它治愈了我。

I heard from other folks that Prozac can be an effective weapon against blushing, even Dr. Jadresic, whose life was totally improved by the surgery.

我从其他人那里听说百忧解可以成为对抗脸红的有效武器,甚至贾德雷西克医生也是如此,他的生活因手术而得到了彻底改善。

He says he doesn't really promote the operation to his patients.

他说他并没有真正向病人推销这项手术。

Rather, he tells them to do a three-month trial of a drug like Prozac first and then decide.

相反,他告诉他们先对百忧解等药物进行为期三个月的试验,然后再做出决定。

And he says six out of 10 patients stick with the medication.

他说十分之六的患者坚持服药。

I just don't like the idea of medicating myself.

我只是不喜欢给自己用药的想法。

And why not?

为什么不呢?

Elna Baker Because it alters my state of mind.

埃尔娜·贝克(Elna Baker)因为它改变了我的心态。

Uh-huh.

嗯嗯。

Elna Baker I feel like that's such an American solution.

埃尔娜·贝克(Elna Baker):我觉得这就是美国式的解决方案。

It's like just medicate it away.

就像用药物消除它一样。

And surgery is not?

而且手术不是吗?

Elna Baker No, surgery's the best solution ever.

埃尔娜·贝克:不,手术是最好的解决方案。

I decided I need to talk with someone who had studied the procedure at length.

我决定需要与详细研究过该程序的人交谈。

And I found the perfect guy, a surgeon in Sweden named Christer Drott.

我找到了一个完美的人,瑞典的一位外科医生,名叫克里斯特·德罗特。

He says he's performed this operation more than 2,500 times.

他说他已经进行了超过 2,500 次这样的手术。

Not only that, he worked on a long range survey of thousands of people who got sympathectomies for blushing, but also for excessive sweating in the palms and face.

不仅如此,他还对数千名因脸红、手掌和面部出汗过多而受到同情的人进行了长期调查。

They were tracked for almost 15 years and answered questions about how satisfied they were with the surgery and how effective it had been.

他们被跟踪了近 15 年,并回答了有关他们对手术的满意度以及手术效果的问题。

Overall, about 73% of the blushers were satisfied, which means another 27% were not.

总体而言,大约 73% 的腮红爱好者感到满意,这意味着另外 27% 的人不满意。

Yes, they were either dissatisfied, or even they regretted having the procedure.

是的,他们要么不满意,要么甚至后悔做了这个手术。

And why?

为什么?

Christer Drott Partly because of the side effects, and partly because of poor effects.

Christer Drott 部分是因为副作用,部分是因为效果不佳。

Yes.

是的。

And that, I think, is due to the fact that, in the beginning, we were not aware that we had no effect on the blotchy type on the neck and chest.

我认为,这是因为,一开始我们并没有意识到我们对颈部和胸部的斑点类型没有效果。

Wait, you're saying that this operation has no effect on the kind of blushing that's the blotchy type that happens on your chest and neck?

等等,你是说这个手术对你胸部和颈部出现的斑点型脸红没有影响?

Yes, that's correct.

是的,这是正确的。

It has only effect on the rapid onset type of blushing in embarrassing situation, the blushing that emerges within seconds.

它只对在尴尬的情况下快速出现的脸红有效果,即几秒钟内出现的脸红。

This is really important, because one of the people that we talked to in this story, my friend Elna-- she has that slowly emerging, blotchy redness.

这真的很重要,因为我们在这个故事中交谈过的人之一,我的朋友埃尔娜——她的皮肤慢慢出现了斑点状的红肿。

And she's considering getting the surgery, in fact.

事实上,她正在考虑接受手术。

I broke the news to Elna.

我把这个消息告诉了艾尔娜。

Elna Baker Uh, wow.

埃尔娜·贝克 呃,哇。

It's disappointing.

真令人失望。

But it's good to know.

但很高兴知道。

The pro-con list has shifted.

赞成反对名单已经发生了变化。

Finding out that it won't even work is kind of like, OK.

发现它甚至不起作用就有点像,好吧。

Solidly in the con list-- Sean Cole Yeah.

稳稳地在骗子名单上——肖恩·科尔 是的。

The science around why it wouldn't work for Elna is complicated, to the extent that it's even understood at all.

为什么它对艾尔娜不起作用的科学原理很复杂,甚至根本无法理解。

But the best theory is that it isn't Elna's sympathetic nerve that's causing her blushing.

但最好的理论是,艾尔娜脸红的原因并不是她的交感神经。

It's her adrenal glands.

这是她的肾上腺。

It's adrenaline.

这是肾上腺素。

Dr. Drott says that's the most likely culprit for the slow onset blotchy blushing.

德罗特博士说,这很可能是缓慢出现的斑点性脸红的罪魁祸首。

And so these folks tend to blush when they're experiencing stress.

因此,这些人在承受压力时往往会脸红。

It takes more to make them blush than the rapid onset blushers, who can be set off by little things, like bumping into a friend on the street, whereas with Elna, even that time she'd blushed in the shower-- it was stress.

比那些快速脸红的人更容易让她们脸红,后者可能会被一些小事引起,比如在街上撞到一个朋友,而对于埃尔娜来说,即使是那一次她在淋浴时脸红——那是压力。

She says she was thinking of all the things she had to do that day and getting worked up.

她说她正在思考当天必须做的所有事情并变得很兴奋。

But I think, like, the thing behind the thing is I know it's me.

但我想,事情背后的原因是我知道那是我。

What do you mean?

你是什​​么意思?

Elna Baker Like I'm doing this.

埃尔娜·贝克:就像我正在做的那样。

So you think there's some amount of agency that maybe you--

所以你认为可能有一定程度的代理你——

And if I could figure out how not to do it-- like, there must be something that I could think, or do, or--

如果我能弄清楚如何不这样做——比如,一定有一些事情是我可以思考的,或者可以做的,或者——

There is something Elna can think and do, according to Dr. Drott, the surgeon.

据外科医生德罗特医生说,埃尔娜可以思考和做一些事情。

Rather it's something she could not do.

反而是她做不到的事。

It's the simplest thing and possibly more effective than the sympathectomy, or drugs, or anything else.

这是最简单的事情,而且可能比交感神经切除术、药物或其他任何方法更有效。

Some people blush terribly, and they don't care.

有些人脸红得厉害,却不在乎。

Oh yes, I've seen the former Norwegian Prime Minister--

哦,是的,我见过挪威前首相——

That's former Norwegian Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland.

他就是挪威前首相格罗·哈莱姆·布伦特兰。

Was blushing like a street lamp-- but she didn't care.

她脸红得像路灯一样——但她不在乎。

She was prime minister anyway.

无论如何,她是首相。

So you think that, if Elna didn't care as much that she blushed, she would blush less.

所以你认为,如果艾尔娜不太在意自己脸红的话,她就会脸红得少一些。

Oh, yes.

哦是的。

Sean Cole Of course, this is an easy thing to say.

肖恩·科尔 当然,这是一件很容易说的事。

When I gave Elna the good doctor's advice, she said-- did you ask him how Elna can not care?

当我给Elna这位好医生的建议时,她说——你有问过他Elna怎么会不关心吗?

Um, I don't know.

嗯,我不知道。

I think what I've learned from doing this-- like, I'm not blushing right now.

我想我从这样做中学到了什么——比如,我现在没有脸红。

I noticed that, actually.

事实上,我注意到了这一点。

Elna Baker That's kind of amazing.

埃尔娜·贝克 这真是太神奇了。

Yeah, it is kind of amazing.

是的,这有点神奇。

Elna Baker Because I've told people.

埃尔娜·贝克(Elna Baker):因为我已经告诉过人们了。

The fact that now everyone in the meeting knows that I blush, whereas I've been keeping that a secret for 3 and 1/2 years, and wearing turtlenecks, and scarves, and hiding it, if it happens, I think that they'll not judge me.

事实上,现在会议上的每个人都知道我脸红,而我已经保守这个秘密 3 又 1/2 年了,穿着高领毛衣、围巾,并隐藏它,如果发生这种情况,我想他们不会评判我。

And I feel like that is going to help, too.

我觉得这也会有所帮助。

I mean, I don't think any of us would have ever judged you about it in the first place.

我的意思是,我认为我们中的任何人一开始都不会因此而评判你。

But now it'll just be like, oh, that's that thing.

但现在它就会像,哦,就是这样。

That thing she does.

她做的那件事。

Sean Cole In fact, at the most recent story meeting, Elna showed up without wearing a scarf, and she didn't blush.

肖恩·科尔 事实上,在最近一次的故事会上,艾尔娜露面时没有戴围巾,而且她也没有脸红。

Sean Cole is one of the producers of our program.

肖恩·科尔是我们节目的制作人之一。

Well, our program was produced today by Jonathan Menjivar and me, with Zoe Chase, Sean Cole, Stephanie Foo, Chana Joffe-Walt, Miki Meek, Brian Reed, Robin Semien, Alissa Shipp, Julie Snyder, and Nancy Updike, editing help from Joel Lovell, production help from Simon Adler.

今天我们的节目由 Jonathan Menjivar 和我制作,佐伊·蔡斯 (Jonathan Menjivar) 和我,还有佐伊·蔡斯 (Jonathan Menjivar)、肖恩·科尔 (Sean Cole)、斯蒂芬妮·符 (Stephanie Foo)、查纳·乔菲-沃尔特 (Chana Joffe-Walt)、米基·米克 (Miki Meek)、布莱恩·里德 (Brian Reed)、罗宾·塞米恩 (Robin Semien)、艾丽莎·希普 (Alissa Shipp)、朱莉·斯奈德 (Julie Snyder) 和南希·厄普代克 (Nancy Updike),乔尔·洛弗尔 (Joel Lovell) 提供编辑帮助,西蒙·阿德勒 (Simon Adler) 提供制作帮助。

Seth Lind's our Operations Director.

塞思·林德 (Seth Lind) 是我们的运营总监。

Emily Condon's our Production Manager.

艾米丽·康登 (Emily Condon) 是我们的生产经理。

Elise Bergerson's our Office Manager.

埃莉斯·伯格森是我们的办公室经理。

Elna Baker scouts stories for our show.

艾尔娜·贝克为我们的节目寻找故事。

Research help today from Michelle Harris and Chrispher Swetala.

米歇尔·哈里斯 (Michelle Harris) 和克里斯弗·斯维塔拉 (Chrispher Swetala) 今天提供研究帮助。

Music help from Damian Gray, from Rob Gettis.

达米安·格雷 (Damian Gray) 和罗布·盖蒂斯 (Rob Gettis) 提供音乐帮助。

Special thanks today to Eric Mennel, Mark Sikes, Christian [INAUDIBLE], Martin Johnson, Stephen Bodson, Paul [?

今天特别感谢 Eric Mennel、Mark Sikes、Christian [听不清]、Martin Johnson、Stephen Bodson、Paul [?

Patsco, ?] Randall [?

帕茨科,?] 兰德尔 [?

Maggs, ?] [?

马格斯,?] [?

Jeff Kline, ?] Stan Fischler, and Jeremy Price.

杰夫·克莱恩,?]斯坦·菲施勒和杰里米·普莱斯。

Our website, where you can see that amazing photo from Life Magazine of Terry Sawchuk looking like Frankenstein-- it's really something-- ThisAmericanLive.org.

在我们的网站上,您可以看到特里·索查克 (Terry Sawchuk) 的《生活》杂志上那张令人惊叹的照片,看起来像弗兰肯斯坦——这真的很了不起——ThisAmericanLive.org。

"This American Life" is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange.

《This American Life》由公共广播电台 PRX 向公共广播电台播出。

Thanks, as always, to our program's co-founder, Mr. Torey Malatia, who stopped going to the Gap because the customers just act so weird in the dressing room.

一如既往,感谢我们项目的联合创始人托里·马拉蒂亚 (Torey Malatia) 先生,他不再去 Gap,因为顾客在更衣室里表现得很奇怪。

They put themselves in the pants of people in front of them.

他们设身处地为面前的人着想。

I'm Ira Glass-- back next week with more stories of "This American Life."

我是艾拉·格拉斯(Ira Glass),下周将带来更多“美国生活”的故事。

This American Life This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.

This American Life This American Life 与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作,并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。

中文为机器翻译,仅供参考。