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Prologue Ira Glass Hey everybody.
序言 艾拉·格拉斯 大家好。
Ira here.
艾拉在这里。
This episode of our show contains words that were beeped when we broadcast this over the radio that are not beeped in this online version.
我们节目的这一集包含了当我们通过广播播放此节目时发出的嘟嘟声，但在此在线版本中没有发出嘟嘟声的单词。
Leonetta Sanders, the principal of Harper High School in Chicago, has a decision to make.
芝加哥哈珀高中的校长利昂内塔·桑德斯要做出一个决定。
And she has to make it right away.
她必须马上做到。
She has to decide whether to cancel the school's homecoming game and dance.
她必须决定是否取消学校的返校节比赛和舞会。
Coach Reed, I need you in the Melon room at this time, Coach Reed.
里德教练，我现在需要你在甜瓜室，里德教练。
Coach Sales.
客车销售。
She calls her staff together for a meeting.
她召集员工开会。
The day before this, when everybody was at a pep rally in the gym for Homecoming, a 16-year-old who attended Harper last year and dropped out, who still had friends here, was shot just a few blocks from school.
前一天，当大家在体育馆为返校节举行鼓舞士气的集会时，一名去年就读于哈珀学院并退学的 16 岁学生在距离学校仅几个街区的地方被枪杀，他在哈珀学院仍有朋友。
Immediately, the staff jumped into action.
随即，工作人员纷纷行动起来。
If you heard our radio program last week, you heard this part of the story, where it was the gang responsible for the shooting had members on the football team.
如果您上周收听过我们的广播节目，您就会听到故事的这一部分，负责枪击事件的团伙中有足球队成员。
So Principal Sanders was scared that there might be retaliation at the game or at the dance.
所以桑德斯校长担心比赛或舞会上可能会遭到报复。
They sent home a handful of kids they thought might be in danger.
他们将一些他们认为可能处于危险之中的孩子送回家。
Here is what happens next.
接下来会发生什么。
When the staff now assembles on Friday afternoon, Principal Sanders informs them that there's news.
当员工周五下午集合时，桑德斯校长通知他们有消息。
Another incident.
又一个事件。
OK, so I just got word that there was a shooting.
好的，我刚刚得到消息说发生了枪击事件。
But it was a shooting in the neighborhood.
但这是在附近发生的枪击事件。
Anthony Harper's father picked him up.
安东尼·哈珀的父亲来接他。
And by the time he crossed 67th, there were shooting.
当他越过第 67 名时，发生了枪击事件。
So it's starting already.
所以它已经开始了。
Nobody was hurt in this latest shooting.
在最近的这起枪击事件中没有人受伤。
Though I think to any outsider, it's hard to imagine Harper not canceling Homecoming at this point.
尽管我认为对任何局外人来说，很难想象哈珀此时不取消返校节。
The school has just come off a terrible year in which 29 current and recent students were shot.
这所学校刚刚度过了可怕的一年，29 名在校生和最近的学生遭到枪击。
Eight of them died.
其中八人死亡。
Dozens more were in incidents where bullets were fired, but they didn't get hit.
还有数十人发生了枪击事件，但他们没有被击中。
These murders, as you would expect, were hard on faculty and students alike.
正如你所预料的那样，这些谋杀案对教师和学生来说都是痛苦的。
But partly because it's been so tough, Principle Sanders wants very badly to give her students the fun, normal stuff that other high school students get, as much as she can.
但部分原因是这太艰难了，桑德斯校长非常希望尽可能多地为她的学生提供其他高中生所获得的有趣、正常的东西。
She really wants them to have a Homecoming dance.
她真的希望他们能举办一场返校节舞会。
And so, her decision--
于是，她的决定——
We are going to move forward with this dance.
我们将随着这支舞蹈继续前进。
I have been on the phone, basically, all day with Tony Ruiz, Chicago police.
我基本上一整天都在和芝加哥警察托尼·鲁伊斯通电话。
So they're going to be standing on corners.
所以他们将站在角落里。
Tony Ruiz says he's going to have some undercover police cars and rapid response.
托尼·鲁伊斯表示，他将配备一些便衣警车和快速反应。
When school lets out at the end of the day, it's tense.
当一天结束时学校放学时，气氛很紧张。
There are more police cars than usual.
警车比平常多。
Harper security staff and administrators are out on the sidewalks in force.
哈珀的保安人员和管理人员都在人行道上。
Principal Sanders is wary as she looks up and down the street for any kids that seem out of place, who might be there for the wrong reasons.
桑德斯校长在街上四处寻找任何看起来格格不入的孩子，他们可能因为错误的原因而在那里，她很警惕。
I'll make sure I-- who is that?
我会确定我——那是谁？
He don't go to Harper.
他不去哈珀。
Who is that?
那是谁？
I'll check.
我会检查一下。
When I go back in, I'll check.
等我回去后我会检查一下。
You know, when they get cold, they start wearing these damn black hoodies.
你知道，当他们变冷的时候，他们就开始穿这些该死的黑色连帽衫。
It's really pissing me off.
这真让我生气。
Why he walking this way?
他为什么走这条路？
Sanders talks to one of the police officers.
桑德斯与一名警察交谈。
He throws on his lights, drives down the block, questions the kid, puts him against the wall and checks for weapons, and then lets him go.
他打开灯，沿着街区行驶，询问那个孩子，把他放在墙上并检查是否有武器，然后让他走。
And very soon, it's time for the game.
很快，比赛时间就到了。
Let's go Cardinals!
让我们去红雀队吧！
Let's go!
我们走吧！
Let's go, Cardinals!
我们走吧，红雀队！
There's no violence at the game, unless you count the incredible trouncing the Harper Cardinals give to Marshall High School.
比赛中没有暴力，除非你算上哈珀红雀队对马歇尔高中的令人难以置信的惨败。
[CHEERING] Final score, 40 to 0.
[欢呼] 最终比分，40 比 0。
Later, at the Homecoming dance, dressed up kids slowly stream through the metal detector.
随后，在返校舞会上，盛装打扮的孩子们慢慢地穿过金属探测器。
If you're not a Harper student, have your IDs out.
如果您不是哈珀学院的学生，请出示您的身份证件。
As for the dance, after all the worrying and the beefed-up security, what ended up happening is nothing-- the best possible outcome.
至于舞会，在经历了所有的担心和加强的安保措施之后，最终发生的事情是什么——这是最好的结果。
The teenager who had been shot on Thursday, James Williams, made it to the hospital and survived.
周四被枪杀的青少年詹姆斯·威廉姆斯被送往医院并幸存下来。
Maybe because of that, there was no other immediate bloodshed.
也许正因为如此，才没有立即发生其他流血事件。
Kids dance in a darkened gym.
孩子们在黑暗的体育馆里跳舞。
On the bleachers, you can make out Barielle, the Homecoming Queen, her dainty crown bouncing up and down at the center of this mass of kids.
在看台上，你可以看到返校节女王巴里埃尔（Barielle），她精致的王冠在这群孩子的中心上下跳动。
For the staff, who have been here at this point for 14 hours, the significance of this moment is not lost.
对于已经在这里工作了14个小时的工作人员来说，这一刻的意义并没有消失。
It's regular life.
这是有规律的生活。
They were able to give the kids regular high school for a night-- a dance.
他们能够让孩子们在正规高中度过一个晚上——一场舞会。
Three girlfriends collect crumpled dollar bills together to make $10 bucks so they can pose, one in wobbly high heels, in front of the fake Roman columns and sky-blue backdrop the photographer's set up.
三个女朋友一起收集皱巴巴的美钞，赚了 10 美元，这样她们就可以在摄影师设置的假罗马柱和天蓝色背景前摆姿势，其中一个穿着摇摇晃晃的高跟鞋。
Three.
三。
There you go.
就这样吧。
Ira Glass Today on our radio program, we spend a second hour at Harper High School on Chicago's South Side.
艾拉·格拉斯 今天，在我们的广播节目中，我们在芝加哥南区的哈珀高中度过了第二个小时。
We sent three reporters there for five months, starting at the beginning of this school year, because of all the shootings they've had.
从本学年初开始，我们派了三名记者去那里为期五个月，因为他们发生了很多枪击事件。
We have all heard a lot about gun violence and kids in the last few months.
在过去的几个月里，我们都听说了很多有关枪支暴力和儿童的事情。
Here at our radio program, we wanted to understand what the staff and families at Harper know about this violence that most of us around the country do not know.
在我们的广播节目中，我们想了解哈珀的工作人员和家属对这种我们全国大多数人都不知道的暴力行为了解多少。
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life, distributed by Public Radio International.
这是来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》，由国际公共广播电台发行。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
You do not have to have heard our first hour on Harper High School to follow what happens in this second hour.
你不必听过我们在哈珀高中的第一个小时就能了解第二个小时发生的事情。
We're going to be focusing more on the students in this hour.
这一小时我们将更多地关注学生。
We're going to get to know a few of their stories.
我们将了解他们的一些故事。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, The Eyewitness.
第一幕，目击者。
Most murders in Chicago-- 82% of them in 2011-- happen in public places, parks and streets and alleyways and cars.
芝加哥的大多数谋杀案（2011 年占 82%）发生在公共场所、公园、街道、小巷和汽车内。
And lots of kids at Harper will tell you that they personally have actually seen someone shot.
哈珀的很多孩子都会告诉你，他们亲眼目睹过有人被枪杀。
One of the three reporters we sent into the school, Alex Kotlowitz, has this story about a student who has seen more than his share.
我们派到学校的三名记者之一亚历克斯·科特洛维茨（Alex Kotlowitz）讲述了一个关于一名学生的故事，他的见识超出了他应有的水平。
In the five months I spent at Harper, nearly every time I visited the school's social work office, which was often, Thomas, a junior, would be there, too, during classes, passing periods, lunch, whenever.
在我在哈珀度过的五个月里，几乎每次我去学校的社会工作办公室时，大三学生托马斯也会在那里，上课时、过节时、午餐时，无论什么时候。
So much that one day I asked him, hey, every time I come here, you're here.
以至于有一天我问他，嘿，每次我来这里，你都在这里。
Why do you hang out here so much?
你为什么经常在这里闲逛？
Nay, I ain't gonna give you no answer for that.
不，我不会给你任何答案。
Every time I come here, you come.
每次我来这里，你都会来。
And I'm for real.
我是真的。
Sometimes, I just need to talk to somebody.
有时，我只需要和某人谈谈。
That's why I come here.
这就是我来这里的原因。
Thomas has witnessed an incredible amount of violence.
托马斯目睹了数量惊人的暴力事件。
Last June, he was standing on the porch of an abandoned building, talking with another Harper student, Shakaki Asphy, when she was shot and killed.
去年六月，他站在一栋废弃建筑的门廊上，与另一名哈珀学生夏卡基·阿斯菲 (Shakaki Asphy) 交谈，她被枪杀。
This, though, wasn't the first murder Thomas had witnessed.
不过，这并不是托马斯目睹的第一起谋杀案。
Back in 2006, he was at a birthday party for 10-year-old girl, Siretha White, nicknamed Nugget, when someone shot though the front window.
早在 2006 年，他正在参加 10 岁女孩 Siretha White（绰号 Nugget）的生日聚会，当时有人从前窗开枪。
Thomas says he remembers being led out of the house by the police and seeing Nugget laying on the floor with what appeared to be her brains next to her.
托马斯说，他记得被警察带出了房子，看到纳吉特躺在地板上，旁边似乎是她的大脑。
Nugget's killing happened when Thomas was 10.
纳吉特被杀时托马斯 10 岁。
Shakaki's murder was when Thomas was 17.
夏卡基被谋杀时托马斯 17 岁。
And as his social worker, Anita Stewart, tells it, there have been many, many in between.
正如他的社会工作者安妮塔·斯图尔特所说，介于两者之间的情况有很多很多。
Last summer, one of the kids in the neighborhood got shot in the face.
去年夏天，附近的一个孩子脸部中弹。
He witnessed that.
他见证了这一点。
Then it was a student here that got shot in the leg.
然后是这里的一名学生腿部中弹。
He was a witness to that.
他是这件事的见证人。
And there was some guy-- and I don't know.
还有一个人——我不知道。
He never really fully told me about this story.
他从未真正完整地告诉过我这个故事。
But he got shot in the head.
但他头部中弹。
And he was talking about his brains being on the ground.
他正在谈论他的大脑在地上。
So he witnessed that.
所以他亲眼目睹了这一点。
Thomas's brother has been shot on three separate occasions.
托马斯的兄弟曾三次被枪杀。
Thomas witnessed all of them, including the time his brother was paralyzed.
托马斯目睹了这一切，包括他弟弟瘫痪的那次。
Good morning, Thomas.
早上好，托马斯。
Thomas Good morning.
托马斯早上好。
And I can understand why you didn't get here on time this morning.
我能理解为什么你今天早上没有准时到这里。
You know that your sister says that she wakes you up every morning.
你知道你姐姐说她每天早上叫醒你。
My mama just brought me here.
我妈妈刚刚带我来这里。
Anita Stewart Lower your voice.
安妮塔·斯图尔特 降低你的声音。
I'm right here.
我就在这里。
It's so good to see you this morning.
今天早上见到你真是太好了。
Thomas and Anita have an interesting relationship.
托马斯和安妮塔的关系很有趣。
He's pretty combative, kind of churlish.
他非常好斗，有点粗鲁。
At times, it almost seems like he doesn't even like Anita very much.
有时，他似乎不太喜欢安妮塔。
But the truth is they're incredibly close.
但事实是他们非常接近。
Anita splits her time between Harper and another high school.
安妮塔在哈珀和另一所高中之间分配时间。
And the two or three days a week she's at Harper, Thomas always comes to see her.
每周她在哈珀的两三天，托马斯总是来看她。
She frequently visits him on his block and at his house, and affectionately calls him big baby.
她经常去他的街区和家里拜访他，并亲切地称他为“大宝贝”。
I don't think Thomas opens up much to many people, but he does with Anita.
我不认为托马斯对很多人敞开心扉，但他对安妮塔却敞开心扉。
You know Nugget's little brother got shot Monday.
你知道掘金的弟弟周一被枪杀了。
No. Is he OK?
不，他还好吗？
Thomas He go shot in his stomach and his leg.
托马斯·赫的腹部和腿部中弹。
Her little brother?
她的弟弟？
How old is her little brother?
她的弟弟几岁了？
Like 15.
像15。
Anita Stewart And what school does he go to?
安妮塔·斯图尔特 他在哪所学校上学？
I don't know.
我不知道。
Anita Stewart So what did you think about it when you heard about it, after you heard about it?
安妮塔·斯图尔特（Anita Stewart）那么，当您听说这件事后，您有什么想法？
Just another person got shot.
又一个人被枪杀了。
Anita Stewart Just another person got shot?
安妮塔·斯图尔特 又一个人被枪杀了？
[SIGH]
[叹息]
You can hear it in Thomas's voice, muffled and sluggish, as if he's speaking from deep inside a cave.
你可以从托马斯的声音中听到这一点，低沉而迟缓，就好像他是在洞穴深处说话一样。
Even his physical demeanour makes it clear he'd just as well disappear.
就连他的举止也表明他宁愿消失。
His braided hair hangs over his eyes.
他的辫子头发垂在眼睛上方。
He often has a hood on.
他经常戴着兜帽。
He won't look you in the eye.
他不会看着你的眼睛。
Anita's trying to pull him out of his hiding.
安妮塔试图把他从藏身之处拉出来。
Hey, Thomas.
嘿，托马斯。
What did you think of the memorial for Shakaki?
您对Shakaki纪念碑有何看法？
Have you looked at it?
你看过吗？
Alex Kotlowitz At the end of October, on the first floor, the school put up a memorial display for Shakaki, the girl Thomas was standing next to when she was killed.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨（Alex Kotlowitz） 十月底，学校在一楼为夏卡基（Shakaki）设立了纪念展，托马斯被杀时就站在她旁边。
It's a glass case filled with pictures of her and her friends, a basketball signed by her teammates, and a note Anita had written to her after she died.
这是一个玻璃柜，里面装满了她和她朋友的照片、一个有她队友签名的篮球，以及安妮塔死后写给她的一张纸条。
Shakaki, who, like so many kids at Harper, half expect to die young, had told Anita if she was killed, she wanted her to put a note in her casket.
沙卡基和哈珀的许多孩子一样，有一半人希望英年早逝，她告诉安妮塔，如果她被杀，她希望她在棺材里放一张纸条。
After she was killed, Anita wrote the note, but you couldn't bring herself to put it in which Shakaki.
在她被杀后，安妮塔写下了这张纸条，但你无法让自己把它写在夏卡基身上。
Anita had worked with Shakaki for two years.
安妮塔与沙卡基共事了两年。
And she's still struggling with their own grief over her death.
她仍在与自己的死亡悲痛作斗争。
And partly, it's the shared grief that draws Anita and Thomas together.
部分原因是共同的悲伤让安妮塔和托马斯走到了一起。
Like Thomas, Anita hasn't been able to bring herself to look at the memorial.
和托马斯一样，安妮塔也无法让自己参观纪念碑。
Because I haven't looked at it.
因为我还没看过。
I saw it.
我看到了。
But I could not go up there.
但我不能去那里。
I'm not ready to go up there yet.
我还没准备好去那里。
So why haven't you gone up there to look at it?
那么你为什么不去那里看看呢？
OK.
好的。
I do have a question for you, Thomas.
我确实有一个问题要问你，托马斯。
With all of the things that you have experienced, which one is constantly on your mind?
在你经历过的所有事情中，哪一件一直萦绕在你的脑海里？
You've experienced so much.
你经历了这么多。
You don't think about none of it?
你什么都不考虑吗？
None of it's on your mind.
这些都不在你的脑海里。
Not the situation with your brother?
不是你弟弟的情况吗？
What about at the bus stop?
那么在公交车站呢？
What about at the party?
聚会上呢？
No, I don't think about that.
不，我不考虑这个。
Anita Stewart You don't think about the party when you were a kid?
安妮塔·斯图尔特（Anita Stewart） 你不记得小时候的聚会吗？
Man, I got older.
伙计，我长大了。
That stuff is old now.
那东西现在已经很旧了。
It's old?
老了？
You remember what happened, right?
你还记得发生了什么，对吧？
Right, but-- Anita Stewart Does it really get old, Thomas?
是的，但是——安妮塔·斯图尔特 它真的会变老吗，托马斯？
It's done now.
现在已经完成了。
Anita Stewart It's done.
安妮塔·斯图尔特 完成了。
I know and I understand that it's done.
我知道并且我明白事情已经完成了。
But does it really get old, where you can say, OK, this is over, I don't think about it anymore?
但它真的变老了吗，你可以说，好吧，这一切都结束了，我不再考虑它了？
But if I think about it, I'll do something.
但如果我考虑一下，我就会做点什么。
Try to hurt somebody.
尝试去伤害某人。
Alex Kotlowitz Try to hurt somebody, he says.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨（Alex Kotlowitz）说，尝试伤害某人。
Trying to hurt someone or wanting to hurt someone, these are things Thomas has said a lot.
试图伤害某人或想要伤害某人，这些都是托马斯说过的很多话。
One time when I asked him where he thought he might be in 10 years, he said, might be in jail, because I think I'm going to hurt someone.
有一次，当我问他认为 10 年后他会在哪里时，他说，可能会进监狱，因为我认为我会伤害某人。
Mostly it felt like tough talk, like teenage bravado.
大多数时候，这感觉就像是强硬的谈话，就像青少年的虚张声势。
But on this day, when talking about Shakaki, it started to become clear that this kind of talk, talk about hurting someone, isn't just tough guy bragging.
但在这一天，当谈论Shakaki时，我们开始清楚地意识到，这种谈论伤害某人的言论不仅仅是硬汉吹牛。
I began to realize that Thomas was trying the best he could to be honest about some feelings he has, feelings that scare him.
我开始意识到托马斯正在尽最大努力诚实地表达他的一些感受，那些让他害怕的感受。
Thomas begins by haltingly explaining what happened the night Shakaki was shot.
托马斯首先结结巴巴地解释了沙卡基被枪杀当晚发生的事情。
He was standing on the porch, Shakaki next to him.
他站在门廊上，夏卡基站在他旁边。
They were just hanging out, just talking.
他们只是闲逛，只是聊天。
Thomas's brother was in his wheelchair on the sidewalk in front.
托马斯的兄弟坐在前面的人行道上的轮椅上。
When the shooter, dressed in a gray hoodie, came running up alongside the building, Thomas pleaded with him not to shoot.
当身穿灰色连帽衫的枪手跑到大楼旁边时，托马斯恳求他不要开枪。
But the shooter fired several rounds, hitting Shakaki three times and Thomas's brother once in the thigh.
但枪手开了几枪，击中了沙卡基三枪，击中了托马斯兄弟的大腿。
Thomas ran but quickly came back.
托马斯跑了，但很快又回来了。
He says that when Shakaki was laying on the ground, he first thought she'd be OK.
他说，当沙卡基躺在地上时，他首先以为她会没事。
Because when she got shot, then anyways, she gonna be all right then.
因为当她被枪杀时，无论如何，她都会没事的。
She was talking, right?
她正在说话，对吧？
Thomas She was on the ground.
托马斯 她躺在地上。
She was talking.
她正在说话。
But all she kept saying, it burned.
但她一直说的一切，都让我着火了。
She was saying that it burned.
她说的是烧起来了。
When the ambulances finally showed up, they took Shakaki and Thomas's brother to the hospital, leaving Thomas alone.
当救护车最终出现时，他们将沙卡基和托马斯的兄弟送往医院，留下托马斯独自一人。
He didn't go home.
他没有回家。
He was just alone.
他只是孤身一人。
Then they took her.
然后他们带走了她。
Then they took my brother.
然后他们带走了我的兄弟。
Then I walked off mad.
然后我就生气的走了。
I walked to the gas station to see who I could see.
我走到加油站看看我能见到谁。
At the gas station, he didn't find anyone.
到了加油站，他没有找到任何人。
And ever since that day, I was just trying to hurt everybody.
从那天起，我就一直想伤害每个人。
I didn't sleep that whole week she got killed.
她被杀后我整个星期都没睡。
She got shot on Saturday.
她周六被枪杀。
She died Sunday.
她周日去世了。
I was sleepless for a whole week.
我整整一周失眠了。
He was filled with grief, anxiety, guilt.
他心里充满了悲伤、焦虑、愧疚。
And then he got into a fight.
然后他就打架了。
Nothing important.
没什么重要的。
Alex Kotlowitz Thomas says an older kid on the street pushed his little cousin to the ground.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨·托马斯说，街上的一个大孩子把他的小表弟推倒在地。
Thomas was furious.
托马斯非常愤怒。
He went after the older boy.
他去追那个大男孩。
It wasn't no fight.
这不是没有打架。
I just hit him.
我刚刚打了他。
And he walked off crying a whole lot.
然后他就哭着走开了。
I didn't know his teeth was in my hand until I looked at it.
直到我看到他的牙齿时，我才知道他的牙齿在我手里。
Thomas punched the boy so hard, one of the boy's teeth got stuck in Thomas hand.
托马斯狠狠地打了男孩一拳，男孩的一颗牙齿卡在了托马斯的手上。
Later that night, his grandma took him to the hospital.
当天晚上，奶奶就带他去了医院。
And he eventually had surgery on his hand.
他最终手部接受了手术。
He told me that once he hurt his hand, he was able to sleep again.
他告诉我，一旦他的手受伤了，他就能再次入睡。
It was that simple.
就是这么简单。
Getting into this stupid fight, it brought him relief.
卷入这场愚蠢的战斗，让他松了口气。
Thomas has said many times that he knows something violent is going to happen again.
托马斯多次表示，他知道暴力事件将会再次发生。
It could be random.
它可能是随机的。
He says bullets fly all the time.
他说子弹一直在飞。
One could come through the living room window and hit his grandma.
有人可能会从客厅的窗户进来，撞到他的奶奶。
Or a stray bullet could hit Anita when she's on the block.
或者当安妮塔在街区时，一颗流弹可能会击中她。
What happens happens, he often says.
发生的事情就发生了，他经常说。
And when it happens next, he knows he'll need relief again.
当下次发生这种情况时，他知道他将再次需要缓解。
If it happens again, I don't think I could stop.
如果再发生这样的事，我想我就停不下来了。
You're worried that will be the breaking point for you?
你担心这会成为你的转折点吗？
No, I ain't worried about nothing.
不，我什么都不担心。
If it happens again, though, I know I could hurt a lot of people if I wanted to.
不过，如果这种事再次发生，我知道如果我愿意的话，我可能会伤害很多人。
I don't think you want to.
我认为你不想。
I really don't think you want to.
我真的不认为你愿意。
Anita's trying to convince Thomas to deal with his feelings in other ways.
安妮塔试图说服托马斯以其他方式处理他的感受。
Not long ago, they visited Shakaki's gravesite together.
不久前，他们还一起参观了沙卡基的墓地。
Anita says is was big deal for Thomas to go.
安妮塔说托马斯的离开很重要。
I'm proud of him, she told me.
我为他感到骄傲，她告诉我。
Alex Kotlowitz, he'll be back later in our hour.
Alex Kotlowitz，他稍后会回来。
Act Two, Your Name Written On Us.
第二幕，你的名字写在我们身上。
In the unofficial school calendar for Harper, there are these anniversaries of days that certain kids were shot or the birthdays of those same kids.
在哈珀的非官方学校日历中，有某些孩子被枪杀的周年纪念日或这些孩子的生日。
They have a big enough effect on what happens at school that the administration and the police department keep track of these days.
它们对学校发生的事情有足够大的影响，以至于行政部门和警察部门现在都在跟踪。
They can be dangerous.
它们可能很危险。
One of the important anniversaries in the fall is TG day, named for Terrance Green.
秋季重要的周年纪念日之一是 TG 日，以特伦斯·格林 (Terrance Green) 的名字命名。
In all kinds of ways since his death at 16, Terrance Green has become one of the iconic figures in the neighborhood around Harper.
自 16 岁去世以来，特伦斯·格林以各种方式成为哈珀周边地区的标志性人物之一。
Ben Calhoun looked into how that happened.
本·卡尔霍恩调查了这是如何发生的。
Terrance Green was murdered during summer break, July, 2009.
2009 年 7 月，特伦斯·格林在暑假期间被谋杀。
But more than a month later, when kids came back to school, the grief over his death.
但一个多月后，当孩子们回到学校时，他们对他的去世感到悲痛。
It was still flooding from the neighborhood into Harper.
洪水仍在从附近涌入哈珀。
It was the largest fallout of a student death I had ever seen before.
这是我以前见过的最大的学生死亡事件。
Even the boys couldn't hold back their tears.
就连男生也忍不住流下了眼泪。
Crystal Smith, one of the school's social workers.
克里斯托·史密斯（Crystal Smith）是学校的社会工作者之一。
In some ways, she says that wasn't so surprising.
她说，从某些方面来说，这并不令人意外。
Terrance was popular and charming and funny.
特伦斯很受欢迎，迷人又有趣。
But she was still not expecting what she saw next.
但她还是没想到接下来会看到什么。
I started seeing this TGC, TGC, TGC everywhere.
我开始到处看到这个 TGC、TGC、TGC。
Whether it be I was seeing it on book bags or tattooed on one of the kids.
无论是我在书包上看到它还是在其中一个孩子身上纹身。
And I was like, what is that?
我当时想，那是什么？
And they were like, oh, you know, this is the Terrance Green Crew.
他们就像，哦，你知道，这是特伦斯绿色船员。
It turned into a whole different gang.
它变成了一个完全不同的帮派。
The new clique, the new gang that Terrance's death gave birth to, today it controls 23 city blocks in the neighborhood east of Harper.
这个新派系，特伦斯之死催生的新帮派，如今控制着哈珀以东地区的 23 个街区。
It's called Terrance Green City, goes by the initials TGC.
它叫特伦斯绿色城市，缩写为TGC。
Sometimes it's called True Gangster City.
有时它被称为真正的黑帮城市。
For TGC and two or three other allied gangs, the dates of Terrance's death and his birthday in November, in the neighborhood, those days are a big deal.
对于 TGC 和其他两三个结盟帮派来说，特伦斯的死亡日期和他在 11 月的生日，在附近，那些日子是一件大事。
Hundreds of people turn out for street parties.
数百人参加街头派对。
And around those times, the hostility over Terrance's murder, it can all come back.
大约在那个时候，对特伦斯谋杀案的敌意可能会卷土重来。
Crystal remembers last November.
克里斯特尔记得去年十一月。
The staff was told to clear out of the building immediately when school ended.
工作人员被告知放学后立即离开大楼。
And they had called in for extra police support.
他们还请求警方提供额外支持。
Somebody told me, they were like, they brought the big guns out.
有人告诉我，他们就像，他们拿出了大枪。
Assault rifles.
突击步枪。
Some of the police outside the school were carrying assault rifles.
学校外的一些警察携带突击步枪。
But then as I was driving down the street, it was just like a scene I had never seen.
但当我开车走在街上时，这就像我从未见过的场景。
I had never seen so many kids posted on the corners at one time.
我从来没有见过这么多孩子同时出现在角落里。
And I had never seen them standing outside with bats and sticks and stuff.
我从来没有见过他们拿着球棒、棍棒之类的东西站在外面。
And they were, like, on every street.
他们就像在每条街道上一样。
Three years after Terrance Green's murder, the legacy left by it continues to sprawl.
特伦斯·格林被谋杀三年后，其留下的遗产仍在继续蔓延。
The song you're hearing is just one of the many tributes to Terrance online.
您听到的这首歌只是网上向特伦斯致敬的众多歌曲之一。
There's also slide shows, collages, videos, some with slick editing and production.
还有幻灯片、拼贴画、视频，其中一些经过巧妙的编辑和制作。
Lots are on YouTube.
YouTube 上有很多。
(SINGING) Yeah, TGC, you already know, man.
（唱歌）是的，TGC，你已经知道了，伙计。
Young Life, Seven Deuce man.
年轻的生命，七平分的人。
RIP my nigga, man.
安息吧我的黑鬼，伙计。
Prince TG, Prince mother fucka TG.
王子TG，王子妈妈他妈的TG。
Yeah, we gonna miss you.
是的，我们会想念你的。
I got you tatted on my arm, man.
我把你纹在了我的手臂上，伙计。
The grief's still sitting on us, so we got your name written on us.
悲伤仍然笼罩着我们，所以我们把你的名字写在了我们身上。
You know how that go.
你知道那是怎么回事。
The mythology around Terrance and the devotion to him, it's intense.
围绕特伦斯的神话和对他的热爱是强烈的。
Kids who know Terrance use his last name, Green, in place of their own.
认识特伦斯的孩子们用他的姓氏格林代替自己的姓氏。
This was confusing at first, when I met several of his friends who told me their last name was Green.
起初这很令人困惑，当我遇到他的几个朋友时，他们告诉我他们姓格林。
But the most troubling example of Terrance's legacy was this series of videos made by kids.
但特伦斯遗产中最令人不安的例子是这一系列由孩子们制作的视频。
The footage is choppy and grainy, like it's shot on a cell phone.
这段视频断断续续，颗粒感很大，就像用手机拍摄的一样。
It's of about a dozen kids walking around the street at night.
晚上大约有十几个孩子在街上散步。
They range in age from maybe 9 or 10 to early high school.
他们的年龄范围从 9 岁或 10 岁到高中早期。
Here, they are threatening and taunting a rival gang, S-Dub, which is also called the Dub.
在这里，他们威胁并嘲笑敌对帮派 S-Dub，也称为 Dub。
It's the gang that's widely believed by students, Harper staff, and police to have killed Terrance.
学生、《哈珀》杂志工作人员和警方普遍认为正是这个团伙杀害了特伦斯。
For the rest of my life, I'm screaming, fuck the Dub!
在我的余生中，我都在尖叫，去他妈的配音！
Toward the end of the video, one particular kid appears.
视频快结束时，出现了一个特殊的孩子。
He looks like he's barely out of middle school, somewhere between 12 and 14.
他看上去才刚刚初中毕业，大约在 12 岁到 14 岁之间。
In his right hand is a gun, a semi-automatic.
他的右手拿着一把枪，半自动的。
He points it at the camera.
他把它指向相机。
He shouts hate at opposing gangs.
他对敌对帮派大喊仇恨。
He praises the territory he says he's protecting, Terrance Green City.
他赞扬了他所说的他正在保护的领土，特伦斯绿城。
[INTERPOSING VOICES] The feud between TGC and S-Dub that followed Terrance's death, it's turned into a long chain of retaliation.
[插话]Terrance 死后，TGC 和 S-Dub 之间的恩怨，演变成一连串的报复。
Principle Sanders says her staff knows of seven murders and more than 10 other shootings that lead back to Terrance.
桑德斯校长表示，她的工作人员知道特伦斯发生了七起谋杀案和十多起其他枪击事件。
This list includes Cedric Bell, one of Harper's students killed last year.
这份名单包括塞德里克·贝尔（Cedric Bell），他是哈珀去年被杀的学生之一。
And it's not like Terrance's story is one of a kind.
特伦斯的故事并不是独一无二的。
There's other cliques around Harper named after kids who were murdered.
哈珀周围还有其他以被谋杀的孩子命名的派系。
There's Bird gang northwest of the school named after Martel Barrett, whose nickname was Bird.
学校西北部有一个伯德帮，以马特尔·巴雷特（Martel Barrett）的名字命名，他的绰号是“伯德”。
He was killed the same year as Terrance.
他与特伦斯同年被杀。
There's Face World, named for a kid whose street name was Face.
这里有“Face World”，以一个街道名字为“Face”的孩子命名。
There's Frank World and Dome City.
有弗兰克世界和圆顶城。
It makes you wonder about the lives of these kids, kids like Terrance.
这让你想知道这些孩子的生活，像特伦斯这样的孩子。
Why did his death lead to songs and kids using his last name in place of their own to assault rifles outside Harper and a remapping of the violence around the school?
为什么他的死会引发歌曲和孩子们用他的姓氏代替自己的名字在哈珀城外用步枪袭击，并重新映射学校周围的暴力事件？
Why this 16-year-old?
为什么是这个16岁的人？
This is an eighth grade graduation picture.
这是八年级的毕业照。
What a cute kid.
多么可爱的孩子啊。
Terrance grew up in a house with two loving, hardworking parents.
特伦斯在一个有两个慈爱、勤劳的父母的房子里长大。
This is his dad here, Tony Owens.
这是他的父亲，托尼·欧文斯。
He's a full-time bus driver and a union official for the Chicago Transit Authority.
他是一名全职公交车司机，也是芝加哥交通管理局的工会官员。
His mother, Lorraine Green, works at a bank.
他的母亲洛林·格林在一家银行工作。
Together, the couple raised five kids.
这对夫妇一起抚养了五个孩子。
Terrance's siblings, at this point, have all graduated from high school.
此时，特伦斯的兄弟姐妹都已高中毕业。
One's in college.
一个在读大学。
The rest are all doing well.
其余的都表现良好。
His older brother is a pastor.
他的哥哥是一位牧师。
How are you doing?
你好吗？
Boogie It's nice to meet you.
布吉 很高兴认识你。
He's here.
他在这里。
Hey man, what's up [INAUDIBLE]?
嘿伙计，怎么了[听不清]？
A friend of Terrance's dropped by during one of my visits to Mr. Owens.
我有一次拜访欧文斯先生时，特伦斯的一位朋友顺便来访。
Boogie was one of the closest people to Terrance.
布吉是与特伦斯最亲近的人之一。
They were friends since third grade.
他们从三年级起就是朋友。
As you're going to hear, there are some big differences in the way they see Terrance's story.
正如您将听到的，他们对特伦斯故事的看法存在很大差异。
But here's the stuff they agree on.
但这是他们达成共识的事情。
Terrance was an amazing athlete and a leader.
特伦斯是一位出色的运动员和领导者。
When he was in middle school, he played quarterback for a youth league team that went to a national championship.
当他上中学时，他在一支青年联赛球队中担任四分卫，并获得了全国冠军。
And they both say the problem started when Terrance was in high school.
他们都说问题是在特伦斯上高中时开始的。
He and Boogie had to walk to Harper through a rival neighborhood.
他和布吉不得不穿过一个敌对的街区步行到哈珀。
The kids there would bully Terrance and his friends.
那里的孩子们会欺负特伦斯和他的朋友。
And then Terrance, he had a teenage fling with and then dumped the little sister of a gang member from the other neighborhood, from S-Dub, the gang that people believe killed him later.
然后是特伦斯（Terrance），他在十几岁的时候曾与另一个社区的一名帮派成员的妹妹发生过风流韵事，然后抛弃了来自 S-Dub 的帮派成员的妹妹，人们相信这个帮派后来杀死了他。
And she told him that my brother going to get you.
她告诉他我哥哥会来抓你。
She told Terrance that.
她告诉特伦斯。
My brother is going to get you.
我哥哥会来接你的。
My brother gonna get you, because he wasn't dating her.
我哥哥会抓住你的，因为他没有和她约会。
The way Mr. Owens describes the situation, it was half girl problem, half bully problem.
欧文斯先生描述的情况是，一半是女孩问题，一半是欺凌问题。
There were some fights in school, some fights on the street.
学校里有打架的事，街上也有打架的事。
And one Friday afternoon, Terrance got shot in a drive-by.
一个周五下午，特伦斯在一次驾车经过时被枪杀。
Police reports show the brother was brought in for questioning but was not charged.
警方报告显示，这名兄弟被带去接受讯问，但没有受到指控。
No one was ever charged.
没有人被指控。
And this is where Boogie's version of the story separates from Mr. Owens's on a crucial point.
这就是布吉的故事版本与欧文斯先生的故事在一个关键点上的不同之处。
Mr. Owens says Terrance and Boogie and their friend's weren't in a gang.
欧文斯先生说特伦斯、布吉和他们的朋友并不属于一个帮派。
Boogie says that was true, but only at first.
布吉说这是真的，但只是一开始。
Boogie tells the story this way.
布吉这样讲故事。
When it all started, there was the gang that the girl's brother was in, S-Dub.
当这一切开始时，女孩的兄弟所在的帮派是S-Dub。
They were fighting with the older guys in Terrance's neighborhood who were in a gang called Seven Deuce.
他们正在与特伦斯附近一个名为“七平局”的帮派中的年长者打架。
Boogie has no idea what that war was about-- girls, money, who knows?
布吉不知道那场战争是关于什么的——女孩、金钱，谁知道呢？
They'd been at it for years, he says.
他说，他们已经这样做了很多年。
He and Terrance and their friends, they were separate from all that.
他和特伦斯以及他们的朋友，他们与这一切无关。
They were just kids.
他们只是孩子。
They were interested in sports and music.
他们对运动和音乐感兴趣。
They could cross into S-Dub's territory.
他们可以进入S-Dub的领地。
They'd go over, hang out, play basketball.
他们会过去、闲逛、打篮球。
It was no big deal.
这没什么大不了的。
But by the time they got to high school, it was like a switch flipped on them.
但当他们进入高中时，就像一个开关打开了他们。
Once they come through, and we taller now.
一旦他们通过了，我们现在就长高了。
It's all about height and stuff like that.
一切都与身高之类的东西有关。
So they call it hard legs, shooting at any hard legs.
所以他们称之为硬腿，向任何硬腿射击。
That means male-- any male that look of age.
这意味着男性——任何看起来年龄较大的男性。
Any male that look of age will get shot.
任何看起来年纪大的男性都会被枪杀。
So that's where it started, right there.
这就是事情开始的地方，就在那里。
You involved now.
你现在也参与其中了。
That's the thing.
就是这样。
Now you a part of it.
现在你是其中的一部分。
Boogie says the guys from S-Dub, they just assumed they were with Seven Deuce because they were young men living in the neighborhood.
Boogie 说来自 S-Dub 的人，他们只是以为自己是 Seven Deuce 的成员，因为他们是住在附近的年轻人。
So S-Dub would drive up, point guns at them, threaten them.
所以 S-Dub 会开车过来，用枪指着他们，威胁他们。
They'd steal from them and take their stuff, embarrass them in front of girls.
他们会偷窃他们的东西，让他们在女孩面前难堪。
It was humiliating.
这太丢脸了。
And avoiding all that didn't seem like an option.
避免这一切似乎不是一个选择。
Police or parents or teachers weren't about to step in and fix it.
警察、家长或老师不会介入并解决这个问题。
So they turned to each other.
于是他们转向彼此。
They did what a lot of teenage boys might do in that situation.
他们做了很多十几岁男孩在这种情况下可能会做的事情。
They decided they weren't going to back down.
他们决定不会退缩。
One member of TGC tells me Terrance got his friends together for a meeting.
TGC 的一位成员告诉我，特伦斯把他的朋友们召集在一起开会。
He said he was starting something new, a new group.
他说他正在开始一些新的事情，一个新的团队。
He named it Yung Lyfe, which stood for young, unique, noble gentlemen living youthful and fulfilled every day.
他将其命名为“Yung Lyfe”，代表年轻、独特、高贵的绅士，每天都过着青春充实的生活。
Fear drove us to really get into it.
恐惧驱使我们真正投入其中。
We felt like we had to fight fire with fire.
我们觉得我们必须以毒攻毒。
Like Terrance, he always was a stronger leader because he was the quarterback of a football team.
和特伦斯一样，他一直是一个更强大的领导者，因为他是橄榄球队的四分卫。
So he knew how to lead a team.
所以他知道如何领导一个团队。
So we thought if they want to come burn us down, we gonna come burn they town down, too.
所以我们想，如果他们想烧毁我们，我们也会烧毁他们的城镇。
All this was news to Mr. Owens, Terrance's dad.
这一切对于特伦斯的父亲欧文斯先生来说都是新闻。
He never knew that Terrance and his friends were fighting back this way.
他从来不知道，庭斯他们竟然会用这样的方式反击。
And when he hears "fight fire with fire," the implication of that, it isn't something Mr. Owens is really ready to accept.
当他听到“以毒攻毒”的含义时，欧文斯先生并没有真正准备好接受。
You know, let me cut in just for a minute.
你知道，让我插话一下。
When he say they retaliated off of that, I mean, what can they do?
当他说他们对此进行报复时，我的意思是，他们能做什么？
They didn't have no guns.
他们没有枪。
I don't see how y'all could retaliate when you all didn't have what they had.
当你们都没有他们所拥有的东西时，我不明白你们如何进行报复。
They had more power than us.
他们比我们更有权力。
But we had more heart.
但我们有更多的心。
Terrance had a big heart.
特伦斯有一颗宽广的心。
You can hear how delicate and respectful Boogie's trying to be with his friend's dad.
您可以听到布吉在与他朋友的父亲相处时表现出多么微妙和尊重。
But Mr. Owens insists, you didn't have any guns.
但欧文斯先生坚持认为，你没有枪。
And finally, Boogie admits it pretty plainly.
最后，布吉非常坦白地承认了这一点。
Yeah, they had things like guns and all type of weapons.
是的，他们有枪支和各种武器之类的东西。
But we had the same.
但我们也有同样的情况。
We just didn't have as much as them.
我们只是没有他们那么多。
They had cars and all type of stuff.
他们有汽车和各种东西。
We were still using CTA.
我们仍在使用 CTA。
It was crazy.
太疯狂了。
But when they got back and forth, when the war really started, if they came on our side, they would have to worry about making it back to their side.
但当他们来来回回的时候，当战争真正开始的时候，如果他们站在我们这边，他们就得担心如何回到他们这边。
And it was the same way for us.
我们也是如此。
Other friends of Terrance's have told me, by the summer when he was killed, the shooting was pretty much constant.
特伦斯的其他朋友告诉我，到他被杀的那个夏天，枪击事件几乎一直在发生。
One said, "I'm not going to lie.
其中一人说：“我不会撒谎。
We were shooting pretty much every day.
我们几乎每天都在拍摄。
It was wolf season," he said.
这是狼的季节，”他说。
When they talk about what all this was like, you can totally see why they memorialize Terrance the way they do-- because there'd been this moment when they felt scared and unprotected.
当他们谈论这一切时，你完全可以理解为什么他们会以这种方式纪念特伦斯——因为有那么一刻他们感到害怕和不受保护。
He was the one that rallied them.
他是团结他们的人。
He was their leader.
他是他们的领袖。
And because he was their leader, he became a target.
因为他是他们的领袖，所以他成为了目标。
"He died for us," Boogie told me.
“他为我们而死，”布吉告诉我。
You can see why they'd want to name their neighborhood after him.
你就明白为什么他们想以他的名字命名他们的社区了。
Boogie says part of what made those years so frightening for them is that they were underdogs.
布吉说，那些年让他们如此恐惧的部分原因是他们处于劣势。
They were younger, smaller.
他们更年轻、更小。
And they had to figure out for themselves how to fight back.
他们必须自己想办法反击。
The older guys, the ones in Seven Deuce who'd started the war, they hadn't recruited them.
那些年长的家伙，也就是七平二中那些发动战争的人，他们没有招募他们。
They hadn't taught them how it all worked.
他们没有教他们这一切是如何运作的。
I'm not blaming it on nobody.
我不会责怪任何人。
But the older guys on our side, they kind of set us up for failure because they let the pressure fall on us.
但我们这边的老家伙们却让我们陷入了失败，因为他们让压力落在了我们身上。
They didn't give nothing to us.
他们没有给我们任何东西。
But they let the weight fall off onto us.
但他们让重量落在了我们身上。
Now it's off of them.
现在已经脱离他们了。
All the weight is off of them.
所有的重量都从他们身上卸下了。
But now it's our problem.
但现在这是我们的问题。
Their problems are our problems now.
他们的问题现在就是我们的问题。
The weight was put on our shoulders and just dumped.
重担落在了我们的肩上，然后又被卸掉了。
Like the older guys, they so separated from us.
就像那些年长的人一样，他们与我们分开了。
It's so segregated that we don't even know their names.
它是如此隔离，以至于我们甚至不知道他们的名字。
But they the ones who started the war which led to Terrance getting killed.
但他们发动了导致特伦斯被杀的战争。
But I couldn't even recall one of their names if I wanted to.
但如果我想的话，我什至都想不起他们的名字。
Of course, to an adult, this is upside down world logic, that the one thing that could have helped them and maybe saved Terrance's life was being recruited and trained by a gang, that the only adults who could have helped them were gang members.
当然，对于成年人来说，这是颠倒的世界逻辑，唯一可以帮助他们并可能挽救特伦斯生命的事情就是被一个帮派招募和训练，唯一可以帮助他们的成年人就是帮派成员。
And the more Boogie said stuff like this, how they inherited this war, the more upset Mr. Owens got.
布吉说得越多，他们如何继承这场战争，欧文斯先生就越不安。
Don't say you was inheriting nothing, because you wasn't.
不要说你没有继承任何东西，因为你没有继承任何东西。
Inheriting means somebody gave you something.
继承意味着有人给了你一些东西。
And nobody gave you nothing.
没有人给你任何东西。
And that's what I was saying.
这就是我所说的。
Tony Owens I'm saying you didn't have nothing to do with what was going on.
托尼·欧文斯 我是说你与所发生的事情没有任何关系。
Y'all was just kids is in hood.
你们都只是戴着兜帽的孩子。
Y'all didn't know nothing about these guys.
你们对这些家伙一无所知。
And I never heard this before.
我以前从未听说过这个。
Mr. Owens has lived in the neighborhood since 1986.
欧文斯先生自 1986 年起就住在附近。
He thought he understood how the gangs worked.
他认为他了解帮派是如何运作的。
They were organized.
他们是有组织的。
They sold drugs.
他们卖毒品。
You joined, got initiated.
你加入了，开始了。
You became a bad guy.
你变成了一个坏人。
It was clear who was in them and who wasn't.
谁在其中，谁不在其中，一目了然。
The world Boogie was describing, where his son was kind of drafted into a gang war he didn't even really want to be a part of, that didn't make sense to Mr. Owens.
布吉所描述的世界，他的儿子被征召入伍，参加一场他甚至不想参与的帮派战争，这对欧文斯先生来说毫无意义。
Towards the end of our conversation, we looked at a map of that new reality.
在谈话即将结束时，我们查看了新现实的地图。
We looked at the gang map Harper High School uses, where Terrance's initials, TG City, sit on a big rectangle southeast of the high school.
我们查看了哈珀高中使用的帮派地图，特伦斯名字的首字母“TG City”位于高中东南部的一个大矩形上。
Mr. Owen's had never seen anything like it.
欧文先生从未见过这样的事情。
It upset him even more.
这让他更加心烦意乱。
TG City, he said.
TG 城，他说。
He'd always thought that was just a nice nickname the kids had given to the neighborhood, a way of remembering his son, not a gang.
他一直认为这只是孩子们给邻居起的一个好听的绰号，一种纪念他儿子的方式，而不是一个帮派。
And that's what you just showed me.
这就是你刚才向我展示的。
I'd never seen it.
我从来没有见过它。
I never heard it before.
我以前从未听说过。
I don't like that.
我不喜欢这样。
I never heard it.
我从来没有听说过。
I don't like it.
我不喜欢它。
I don't like it.
我不喜欢它。
I do not like that.
我不喜欢那样。
When you showed me a map of the gang names and TG in that, oh, no. That's his initials.
当你给我看了一张上面有帮派名称和 TG 的地图时，哦，不。那是他名字的首字母。
He don't fit in that.
他不适合那个。
He don't fit in that.
他不适合那个。
After a few minutes, we walked outside to take a break and get some fresh air.
几分钟后，我们走到外面休息一下，呼吸一下新鲜空气。
Mr. Owens stood on his porch.
欧文斯先生站在门廊上。
He told me a story about how the last time he'd seen Terrance was on his porch.
他给我讲了一个故事，说他最后一次见到特伦斯是在他的门廊上。
It was morning.
那是早上。
Mr. Owens was on his way to work.
欧文斯先生正在上班的路上。
And he watched as his son walked around the corner to see Boogie and go get a haircut.
他看着儿子走过拐角去看布吉，然后去理发。
Today he stood there, staring at the house kitty corner to his.
今天他站在那里，盯着他家里的小猫角。
On one wall of it, there was spray paint that said TGC.
一面墙上喷漆写着“TGC”。
Mr. Owen's stared, shaking his head.
欧文先生瞪大眼睛，摇摇头。
I don't like that, he said.
我不喜欢这样，他说。
I don't like that at all.
我一点也不喜欢这样。
Ben Calhoun.
本·卡尔霍恩.
Act Three: Get Your Gun Ben Calhoun Act Three, How Kids Get Guns.
第三幕：拿起你的枪 本·卡尔霍恩 第三幕，孩子们如何获得枪支。
Chicago's gun control laws are strict.
芝加哥的枪支管制法非常严格。
There are no gun shops in the city, no shooting ranges.
城里没有枪店，也没有射击场。
There's a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines.
禁止使用攻击性武器和大容量弹匣。
But somehow, of course, kids are being shot by other kids.
但不知何故，当然，孩子们正在被其他孩子射杀。
Teenagers can't just walk into a store or a gun show and buy a gun.
青少年不能走进商店或枪支展就买枪。
So how do they get them?
那么他们如何获得它们呢？
The third of our Harper reporters, Linda Lutton, asked.
《哈珀》杂志的第三位记者琳达·卢顿问道。
I talked to eight Harper students at school one day.
有一天，我在学校与八名哈珀学生交谈。
Most them are freshman, 15 years old.
他们大多数是新生，15岁左右。
It was often hard at Harper to get kids to talk about how they felt about the violence in their neighborhood.
在哈珀，让孩子们谈论他们对邻里暴力的感受往往很困难。
But when it came to something concrete, like where a kid around here would get a gun, it was easy to get into a detailed conversation about dirty guns and clean guns and the prices of each.
但当谈到具体的事情时，比如这里的孩子在哪里可以获得一把枪，很容易就肮脏的枪和干净的枪以及每种枪的价格进行详细的对话。
They said if it's a cheap gun on the street, you have to be careful.
他们说如果街上有便宜的枪，你就得小心。
It might have a murder on it.
这里面可能有谋杀案。
It'll usually have a murder or something on it.
通常都会有谋杀案或者其他什么事情。
And they know how clean guns, guns with no murders on them, end up on the street.
他们知道枪支是多么干净，没有任何谋杀案的枪支最终会出现在街上。
They got they gun cards.
他们拿到了枪卡。
And then when they sell them, they just report them stolen-- like a month later, reported stolen.
然后当他们卖掉它们时，他们只是报告它们被盗了——大约一个月后，报告被盗了。
OK, what's the cheapest?
好吧，什么最便宜？
Even if it's a dirty gun with a murder on it, what's the cheapest?
就算是一把脏枪，上面写着谋杀案，什么最便宜？
Like $100.
好像 100 美元。
Boy 2 It depends on what kind of gun it is.
男孩2 这取决于它是什么类型的枪。
$100.
100 美元。
And what kind of gun would that be for $100?
100 美元会是什么样的枪？
Because you gotta trick some people.
因为你必须欺骗一些人。
They would be like, give me $100 for a .22 caliber.
他们会说，给我 100 美元买一支 0.22 口径。
Boy, I don't even play with those.
男孩，我什至不玩那些。
What, I'm going to give you $100?
什么，我给你100美元？
I'll give you $25 for it.
我会给你 25 美元。
The boys argue for a while over how much a .22 caliber handgun would be worth-- $25, $40, $150, or if it's worth anything at all since it's not a big gun.
男孩们争论了一把 0.22 口径手枪的价值——25 美元、40 美元、150 美元，或者它是否值钱，因为它不是一把大枪。
And who are they getting the guns from?
他们从谁那里得到枪支？
As a kid, how do you know where to go to?
作为一个孩子，你怎么知道去哪里？
I go to one of the guys.
我去找其中一个人。
Boy 4 That's what I was going to say, too-- one of the guys.
男孩 4 这也是我要说的——其中一个人。
What does one of the guys mean?
其中一个家伙是什么意思？
What does that mean?
这意味着什么？
One of your friends.
你的朋友之一。
Boy 4 Well, like for some people, like if you're in a gang or something, you gonna automatically have that.
男孩 4 嗯，就像对某些人来说，如果你在帮派之类的，你就会自动拥有它。
So if you've got connections to a gang, then you gonna have it.
所以，如果你和一个帮派有联系，那么你就会拥有它。
So how do know who in the gang has the gun?
那么如何知道团伙中谁有枪呢？
We know.
我们知道。
We know.
我们知道。
Boy 1 I've actually made phone calls.
男孩 1 我实际上已经打过电话了。
If wanted a gun--
如果想要一把枪——
That's what I'm saying, too.
我也是这么说的。
Boy 1 I could make a phone call.
男孩 1 我可以打电话。
Of course, this isn't the most satisfying answer to the question, where do you get your gun?
当然，这并不是对“你从哪里得到枪？”这个问题最令人满意的答案。
To shrug and say, "from my friends," it doesn't explain how your friends get them.
耸耸肩说“来自我的朋友”并不能解释你的朋友是如何得到它们的。
Guns arrive in the neighborhood through all the means you've probably heard of-- straw purchasers, gun show loopholes.
枪支通过你可能听说过的所有方式到达附近——稻草购买者、枪支展示漏洞。
The feds recently charged a college student with buying duffel bags full of guns at Indiana gun shows for sale on Chicago streets.
联邦调查局最近指控一名大学生在印第安纳州枪支展上购买装满枪支的行李袋，然后在芝加哥街头出售。
A University of Chicago crime lab analysis has shown that the biggest proportion of police-recovered guns, around 40%, are purchased legally just outside Chicago, in the suburbs or Indiana.
芝加哥大学犯罪实验室的分析显示，警方收缴的枪支中，最大比例（约 40%）是在芝加哥郊外、郊区或印第安纳州合法购买的。
One of the police officers who works at Harper told me $40 or $50 would be a normal price around the neighborhood for a revolver.
一位在哈珀工作的警官告诉我，40 或 50 美元是附近地区一把左轮手枪的正常价格。
$100 will get you a semiautomatic.
100美元就能买到半自动的。
But talking to these kids, I realize they often can get a gun for nothing at all.
但与这些孩子交谈后，我意识到他们经常可以不花钱就得到一把枪。
They're free.
他们是免费的。
This kid got two guns from his brother.
这孩子从他哥哥那里得到了两把枪。
When my brother got it, of course he gonna give to me.
当我哥哥得到它时，他当然会送给我。
Because my brother, he went to jail for a charge.
因为我的兄弟，他因指控入狱。
He's still in there right now.
他现在还在里面。
For a gun charge?
为了枪罪？
Boy 4 Yeah.
男孩4 是啊。
My brother got several guns, though.
不过我哥哥有几把枪。
But the one that he got caught with, they got it.
但他被抓住的那一个，他们就明白了。
But he got several of them.
但他得到了其中的几个。
So I'm going to look at them for him while he in there.
所以当他在那里的时候我会帮他看一下。
One kid says he was given a gun by fellow gang members who handed it to him, he says, for having certain rank in the gang.
一名孩子说，帮派其他成员给了他一把枪，他说，因为他在帮派中具有一定的地位。
He was 14.
他14岁。
Another boy who's backed away from his gang, he moved out of Englewood, says he could still get a gun if he needed it for something, as long as he promised to bring it back.
另一个离开了帮派的男孩搬出了恩格尔伍德，他说如果他需要枪做某事，他仍然可以得到一把枪，只要他答应把枪带回来。
Another boy says his mom has a gun, a legal gun.
另一个男孩说他妈妈有一把枪，一把合法的枪。
She keeps it in a box, he says.
他说，她把它放在一个盒子里。
I was 12 when I got my first gun.
当我12岁的时候，我得到了第一把枪。
I was 12.
我当时12岁。
I found it.
我找到了。
I saw it.
我看到了。
I found it.
我找到了。
He was near 67th Street, three blocks from Harper.
他住在 67 街附近，距离哈珀三个街区。
Just in the middle of the day, you're going to your grandma's house.
就在中午，你要去你奶奶家。
And you find a gun.
然后你找到了一把枪。
Yeah, it was 4 o'clock.
是的，当时是四点钟。
And I walked through the alley because I had come up to my grandma's backyard.
我穿过小巷，因为我来到了奶奶的后院。
And something just told me, look down.
有件事告诉我，往下看。
It was five, six houses down from my grandma.
离我奶奶有五六栋房子。
People stash guns outside.
人们在外面藏枪。
They don't want their guns in the house.
他们不想把枪留在家里。
All the kids agree, if a gun's in your house, the police can find it in a raid.
所有的孩子都同意，如果你家里有枪，警察可以在突袭中找到它。
So people stash them.
所以人们把它们藏起来。
This one was on the side of the garage.
这个在车库的一侧。
It was on the side of the garage like somebody tried to throw it in there while they was running.
它在车库的一侧，就像有人在跑步时试图把它扔进去一样。
But they missed or something.
但他们错过了什么。
It was just laying, not on the garage, on the garbage.
它只是躺在垃圾堆上，而不是车库上。
You know, the garbages in the alley?
你知道巷子里的垃圾吗？
It was just laying next to it.
它就躺在它旁边。
And I just picked it up, brung it home.
我就把它捡起来带回家。
The boy kept the gun for a while.
男孩把枪保留了一段时间。
Later, because he couldn't figure out how to get any bullets for it and because, he says, he had no use for it, he gave it to a friend.
后来，因为他不知道如何获得子弹，而且他说，因为他没有用它，所以他把它给了一个朋友。
When I asked what type of gun it was, the boy said he was too little to know at the time.
当我问那是什么类型的枪时，男孩说他当时太小，不知道。
He only knew it was black.
他只知道那是黑色的。
But now that he's older, 15, he does know.
但现在他已经 15 岁了，他确实知道了。
It was a .45.
那是 0.45。
So where do you keep a gun, if not at home?
那么，如果不在家里，你会在哪里放枪呢？
I'm still not clear on that.
我对此还不清楚。
What, like next door to you maybe or something?
什么，比如在你隔壁或者什么的？
Well, not next door to you.
嗯，不是在你隔壁。
I could be like a block or something.
我可能就像一个方块什么的。
But it can't be that far.
但不可能那么远。
How do protect it, then?
那怎么保护呢？
How do you know somebody's not going to get in there and get it?
你怎么知道有人不会进入那里并得到它？
Because you hide it.
因为你隐藏它。
Linda Lutton Well, maybe I live on your block, too, and I'm--
琳达·卢顿 嗯，也许我也住在你的街区，而且我——
Well, one of my guys, he had a banger.
嗯，我的一个人，他有一个脾气暴躁的人。
And he put it in an abandoned house.
他把它放在一个废弃的房子里。
He put in the basement.
他放在地下室。
And in the basement, they got a little vent.
在地下室，他们有一个小通风口。
And just scooted it all the way back then just closed.
然后就直接把它一路推回来然后就关门了。
And that's it.
就是这样。
Yeah.
是的。
Linda Lutton But it's not on him.
琳达·卢顿 但这不是他的责任。
It's not in his house.
这不是在他的房子里。
You're just close.
你已经很接近了。
Linda Lutton As you'd expect, some guns are more popular than others.
Linda Lutton 正如您所料，有些枪比其他枪更受欢迎。
Do young people want a certain type of gun?
年轻人想要某种类型的枪吗？
A .30, with a long clip-- a clip like this out the gun.
.30，带有一个长弹夹——像这样的弹夹从枪中出来。
He's not talking about a specific gun but an accessory, a magazine that holds 30 rounds.
他说的不是一把特定的枪，而是一个配件，一个可容纳 30 发子弹的弹匣。
You like those?
你喜欢那些？
Why?
为什么？
Boy 3 They got the most shots.
男孩 3 他们投篮次数最多。
You can shoot forever.
你可以永远射击。
Let out 15.
放出15个。
Run back to where you going.
跑回你要去的地方。
Somebody else come out and let out five more.
还有人出来放了另外五个。
There you go.
就这样吧。
A lot of these student say they know kids who are only alive because the shooters have such bad aim.
许多学生说，他们认识的孩子之所以能活着，是因为枪手的瞄准太糟糕了。
That could be another reason why the long clips are popular with kids.
这可能是长剪辑受到孩子们欢迎的另一个原因。
It's a good accessory to have when you can't shoot.
当你无法拍摄时，这是一个很好的配件。
Linda Lutton.
琳达·卢顿。
Coming up, you may remember that teenager who shot his own brother that we talked about in last week's program.
接下来，你可能还记得我们在上周的节目中谈到的那个枪杀自己兄弟的少年。
We get back to him and what happened to him as the school year progressed.
随着学年的进展，我们会回到他身上以及他身上发生的事情。
In a minute, from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International when our program continues.
稍后，芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
This is the second of two hours that we're broadcasting about Harper high school in the Englewood neighborhood of Chicago's South Side.
这是我们关于芝加哥南区恩格尔伍德社区哈珀高中的两个小时的广播中的第二个。
Last year, the school had 29 shootings of current and recent students.
去年，学校发生了 29 起在校生和应届生枪击事件。
We've had three reporters there for five months, starting at the beginning of the school year.
从学年伊始，我们已经派了三名记者在那里工作了五个月。
We have arrived Act Four of our show.
我们已经到了节目的第四幕了。
Act Four, Devonte, Part Two.
第四幕，德文特，第二部分。
One of our reporters, Alex Kotlowitz, spent his time at school in the social work office because that's a place that directly and intensively addresses the effects of the neighborhood's violence on specific students who go to the school.
我们的一位记者亚历克斯·科特洛维茨 (Alex Kotlowitz) 在学校的社会工作办公室度过了他的时光，因为这是一个直接而集中地讨论社区暴力对就读学校的特定学生的影响的地方。
We heard one of the school's two social workers, Anita Stewart, earlier this hour.
早些时候，我们听到了学校两名社会工作者之一安妮塔·斯图尔特 (Anita Stewart) 的讲话。
Crystal Smith is the other one.
克里斯托·史密斯是另一位。
Crystal is relentlessly bright, positive, cheerful, peppy-- like, aggressively so.
水晶永远明亮、积极、开朗、精力充沛——就像，积极进取。
Here's how, early in the year, she says goodbye to a kid in her office who is leaving for class.
今年年初，她是这样向办公室里一个要出去上课的孩子告别的。
Hello.
你好。
You are a person, OK.
你是一个人，好吧。
You are valuable.
你很有价值。
And you matter.
你很重要。
Mwah, mwah, mwah.
哇，哇，哇。
OK, go.
好的，走吧。
By late November this year, though, things have kind of changed.
然而，到今年 11 月底，情况发生了一些变化。
Alex explains how.
亚历克斯解释了如何做。
It's the Tuesday before Thanksgiving break.
这是感恩节假期前的星期二。
And I run into Crystal Smith who's just coming in to work.
我遇到了刚来上班的克里斯托·史密斯。
She collapses into her chair.
她瘫倒在椅子上。
[DOOR SLAMS] Alex Kotlowitz How you doing?
[关门] Alex Kotlowitz 你好吗？
I just got here.
我刚到这里。
I've been battling my brain and just not feeling well since last night.
我一直在与我的大脑作斗争，从昨晚开始我就感觉不舒服。
But I'm here.
但我在这里。
Since last night?
从昨晚开始？
What happened last night?
昨晚发生了什么？
Well, yesterday when I was at work, my whole face became numb.
那么昨天上班的时候我整个脸都麻了。
And my lips were tingling.
我的嘴唇发麻。
My hand was numb, so I went--
我的手麻木了，所以我走了——
Crystal tells me that last night she went to the ER.
克里斯托告诉我，昨晚她去了急诊室。
She was worried she was having a stroke.
她担心自己中风了。
But the doctor told her it was most likely symptoms of stress.
但医生告诉她，这很可能是压力的症状。
But Crystal isn't just having a bad day.
但克里斯托的日子并不只是糟糕。
Work has been wearing her down.
工作已经让她疲惫不堪。
And others, it seem, are having a hard time, too.
其他人似乎也遇到了困难。
A week earlier, an administrator became so concerned about Crystal that she sent her, along with the school's other social worker and the school psychologist, to a counseling session just for the three of them.
一周前，一名管理人员对克里斯托非常担心，以至于她派她与学校的其他社会工作者和学校心理学家一起参加专门为他们三人提供的咨询课程。
She wanted them to begin to process and move past all the crises and the shocks and the funerals they've been through the past year.
她希望他们开始处理并克服过去一年中经历的所有危机、冲击和葬礼。
Crystal and Anita, the other social worker, told me the session was helpful.
克里斯托和另一位社会工作者安妮塔告诉我，这次会议很有帮助。
But they also said it felt sort of pointless.
但他们也表示这感觉有点毫无意义。
"It's not over," they said.
“事情还没有结束，”他们说。
Yeah, there haven't been any students killed this year.
是的，今年没有学生被杀。
But the shooting hasn't stopped.
但枪击事件并未停止。
I point out that that's how the kids must feel sometimes, and they agree.
我指出这就是孩子们有时一定有的感受，他们也同意。
In the office, I tell Crystal that she looks tired.
在办公室里，我告诉克里斯托她看起来很累。
Yeah, I know.
是的，我知道。
Next week, I'll try to be my, you know, ball of energy.
下周，我会努力成为我的，你知道的，能量球。
I'm going to try.
我要尝试一下。
I don't know, maybe your book stressed me out.
我不知道，也许你的书让我压力很大。
[LAUGHTER] Alex Kotlowitz Crystal's been working towards a second master's degree, and in one of her classes this year has been reading a book I wrote over 20 years ago called There Are No Children Here , where I follow two brothers living in the projects on Chicago's West Side.
[笑声] Alex Kotlowitz Crystal 一直在攻读第二个硕士学位，今年她的一堂课上一直在读我 20 多年前写的一本名为《这里没有孩子》的书，在这本书中，我跟踪生活在芝加哥西区项目中的两个兄弟。
For a couple of years, I followed the boys as they grappled with violence, poverty, and the gangs.
几年来，我一直关注着这些男孩与暴力、贫困和帮派作斗争的过程。
And Crystal wonders if reading it isn't adding to her stress.
克里斯特尔想知道阅读这本书是否会增加她的压力。
It was really interesting, though.
不过，这真的很有趣。
To think that 20 years later, nothing has changed, that's the scarier part.
想想20年过去了，一切都没有改变，这才是更可怕的部分。
Right.
正确的。
Right.
正确的。
That the same cycles are being repeated over again.
同样的循环不断重复。
OK, now what happened to the cousin, the one with the four kids?
好吧，现在那个带着四个孩子的表弟怎么样了？
She's doing great.
她做得很好。
Her kids are going off to college.
她的孩子们即将上大学。
She lives up in Evanston, works in a bank.
她住在埃文斯顿，在一家银行工作。
Really?
真的吗？
She got out.
她下了车。
Alex Kotlowitz Yeah.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨 是的。
Really.
真的。
I am so happy to hear that.
我很高兴听到这个消息。
I needed to hear that.
我需要听听这个。
I needed to know that.
我需要知道这一点。
Wow.
哇。
I need to see where education works.
我需要看看教育在哪里发挥作用。
And I need to see where success happens.
我需要看看成功发生在哪里。
One of the things that's stressing Crystal out is her relationship with a junior named Devonte.
让克里斯托感到压力的事情之一是她与一位名叫德文特的学弟学妹的关系。
Earlier in the year, Crystal begin meeting regularly with Devonte.
今年早些时候，克里斯托开始定期与德文特会面。
I talked about him in last week's show.
我在上周的节目中谈到了他。
Last February, Devonte accidentally shot and killed his 14-year-old brother.
去年二月，德文特意外枪杀了他 14 岁的弟弟。
Since then, his sister has stopped talking to him.
从那时起，他的姐姐就不再和他说话了。
And things have been strained with his mom.
他和妈妈之间的关系也很紧张。
Before the accident, Devonte was kind of notorious as a problem kid at Harper.
事故发生之前，德文特在哈珀学院作为问题孩子而臭名昭著。
He would curse out the staff.
他会咒骂员工。
And he hardly showed up for school.
而且他几乎没来学校。
But since the beginning of this school year, Devonte's been turning it around.
但自本学年开始以来，德文特一直在扭转局面。
He comes to see Crystal sometimes two or three times a day.
有时他一天会来看克里斯托两三次。
In spurts, he talks about his feelings, especially his guilt over his brother's death.
他突然谈到了他的感受，尤其是他对兄弟之死的愧疚。
He's pulled up his grades, getting Bs and Cs in almost all of his classes, the best grades he's ever had in high school.
他的成绩得到了提高，几乎所有课程都获得了 B 和 C，这是他在高中时取得的最好成绩。
So much of this success, I think, has to do with Crystal.
我认为，这种成功很大程度上与水晶有关。
For three months, she's let him know he doesn't need to go through this all alone.
三个月来，她让他知道他不需要独自经历这一切。
She encourages him to think about the future he wants for himself.
她鼓励他思考自己想要的未来。
Once when Devonte had stopped by, Crystal had pulled out photographs from a recent vacation she took with her husband in Jamaica.
有一次，当德文特路过时，克里斯托拿出了她最近和丈夫在牙买加度假的照片。
And so look, this is part of the resort that we were on.
看，这是我们所在的度假村的一部分。
Every morning, you wake up and you see that.
每天早上，你醒来都会看到这一点。
It is clean.
它很干净。
And the water is so blue, you could see all the way down to the bottom.
而且水很蓝，可以一直看到水底。
Yes, you can Devonte I don't need to go out there, though.
是的，你可以，德文特，不过我不需要出去。
The sun is small, isn't it?
太阳很小，不是吗？
Crystal Smith I know.
克里斯托·史密斯我知道。
But I got a better picture of the sunset.
但我拍到了更好的日落照片。
I'll bring that later.
我稍后会带来。
And I'm going to give you one, because I want you to always make sure that you focused on getting to the sunset.
我会给你一个，因为我希望你始终确保你专注于看到日落。
OK?
好的？
OK.
好的。
So this conversation took place earlier in the fall.
所以这次谈话发生在秋天早些时候。
Now, today, the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, it seems like Devonte is drifting.
现在，今天，感恩节前的星期二，德文特似乎正在漂流。
Like Crystal and Anita, he just seems spent.
和克里斯托和安妮塔一样，他似乎也精疲力尽了。
Crystal tells me Devonte's become agitated.
克里斯托告诉我德文特变得焦躁不安。
He's announced that he's only going to come to school three days a week.
他宣布他每周只来学校三天。
I asked Devonte if he'd sit down with me and explain what's going on.
我问德文特是否愿意坐下来和我解释一下发生了什么事。
I began by asking him about his relationship with Crystal.
我首先询问他与克里斯托的关系。
Now, I started getting along with Ms. Smith during sophomore year or something like that.
现在，我在大二或者类似的时候开始和史密斯女士相处。
And she started loving me.
她开始爱我。
I think she's really fond of you.
我觉得她真的很喜欢你。
She worries about you.
她担心你。
Mmm-hmm, all the time.
嗯嗯，一直都是。
She worries about me all the time.
她无时无刻不在担心我。
Do you like it that she worries about you?
你喜欢她担心你吗？
Yeah.
是的。
I like for a person to care for me and stuff.
我喜欢有人关心我之类的。
I started to ask Devonte a bit about his brother and about the accident.
我开始向德文特询问一些关于他哥哥和那次事故的事情。
But he told me that he didn't really want to talk about it-- which, you know, fair enough.
但他告诉我，他真的不想谈论这件事——你知道，这很公平。
He told me that he hates memories.
他告诉我他讨厌回忆。
I don't like to think of stuff.
我不喜欢想事情。
I be wanting to give up on my life sometimes.
有时我想放弃自己的生活。
Is that right, Devonte?
是这样吗，德文特？
Why?
为什么？
Devonte I don't like my life no more.
Devonte 我不再喜欢我的生活了。
I hate myself.
我讨厌我自己。
Why do you hate yourself?
你为什么讨厌自己？
Devonte I don't know.
德文特 我不知道。
You hate what happened, right?
你讨厌发生的事，对吧？
But you don't hate yourself?
但你不讨厌自己吗？
Peoples be looking at me stupid, all the--
人们都看着我愚蠢，所有的——
Uh-uh.
呃呃。
Alex Kotlowitz So you just think people are looking at you differently?
Alex Kotlowitz 那么你只是认为人们以不同的方式看待你？
I see people looking at me other different type of ways.
我看到人们用其他不同的方式看我。
Do you think Ms. Smith does?
你认为史密斯女士会吗？
Devonte No. And I'm talking about people in my family.
Devonte 不。我说的是我家里的人。
I feel that they don't care about me no more.
我感觉他们不再关心我了。
Like if I leave this world, they don't care.
就像我是否离开这个世界，他们不在乎。
I heard my sister say, my little brother go, everybody go, and don't never come back.
我听见姐姐说，弟弟走吧，大家都走吧，永远不要回来。
And I don't want to flip out on nobody.
我不想对任何人发怒。
I've been thinking about me just giving up.
我一直在考虑放弃。
That conversation happened two days before the Thanksgiving break.
那次谈话发生在感恩节假期前两天。
When I next meet up with Crystal a few weeks later, she tells me that Devonte has stopped coming to school, that she hasn't heard from him.
几周后，当我再次见到克里斯托时，她告诉我德文特已经不再来学校了，她还没有收到他的消息。
What's worse, though, is that she says she's heard from some of the school staff that he's been picked up by the police on a gun possession charge.
但更糟糕的是，她说她从一些学校工作人员那里听说，他因持有枪支罪名被警方逮捕。
Crystal calls Devonte's mom to find out what's going on.
克里斯托打电话给德文特的妈妈，想了解发生了什么事。
Hello, can I please speak with Mrs. Grant?
你好，我可以和格兰特夫人通话吗？
Hey, it's Crystal Winfield Smith.
嘿，我是克里斯托·温菲尔德·史密斯。
How are you?
你好吗？
Good, good, good.
好，好，好。
The police are there looking for Devonte?
警察正在寻找德文特吗？
What?
什么？
Devonte's mom confirms that, yes, Devonte had been picked up on a gun charge, and that earlier in the week went to court for a preliminary hearing.
德文特的妈妈证实，是的，德文特因枪支指控而被捕，并于本周早些时候上法庭进行了初步听证会。
She says that once Devonte heard that he could get locked up for 19 months, he got scared and took off.
她说，当德文特听说他可能会被关押 19 个月时，他感到害怕并逃跑了。
He literally ran out of the courthouse.
他真的跑出了法院。
He's now on the run.
他现在正在逃亡中。
She says she's not sure where he's staying now.
她说她不确定他现在住在哪里。
Crystal knows that Devonte will just get more caught up in the streets, fending for himself, and that at some point the police will get him.
克里斯托知道德文特只会更多地陷入街头，自力更生，并且在某个时候警察会抓住他。
And when they do, he's facing serious charges-- the gun charge itself, violation of probation, which he was on for the accidental shooting, maybe running from the court.
当他们这样做时，他将面临严重的指控——枪支指控本身，违反缓刑，他因意外枪击而被判缓刑，也许还逃离法庭。
It makes me feel like I lost him.
这让我感觉我失去了他。
And how could I lose him when I'm reaching my hand out?
当我伸出手的时候，我怎么会失去他呢？
Grab back.
抓回来。
A few days later, Crystal calls Devonte.
几天后，克里斯托给德文特打电话。
She tells him not to say where he is, so she won't have to lie for him.
她告诉他不要透露自己在哪里，这样她就不必为他撒谎。
She then runs through what, for them, has by now become a familiar exercise.
然后她进行了现在对他们来说已经成为熟悉的练习。
When you look in the mirror, what do you see?
当你照镜子时，你看到了什么？
Crystal asks.
水晶问道。
The good Devonte, he replies.
好心的德文特，他回答道。
Then Crystal remind him, don't forget he's in there.
然后克里斯托提醒他，别忘了他就在那里。
And so it was very hard for me.
所以这对我来说非常困难。
And I said, OK, son.
我说，好吧，儿子。
I love you.
我爱你。
And take care of yourself.
并照顾好自己。
And he said, I love you, too, ma.
他说，我也爱你，妈妈。
And I hung up.
然后我就挂断了电话。
That's that.
就是这样。
Alex Kotlowitz.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨。
Act Five: Reverse Turnaround Backflip Ira Glass Act Five, Reverse Turnaround Backflip.
第五幕：反向转身后空翻 Ira Glass 第五幕，反向转身后空翻。
The time of year that we're in right now is hard for Principal Sanders because it's budget time, planning next year's budget.
对于桑德斯校长来说，现在正处于一年中的困难时期，因为现在是预算时间，规划明年的预算。
Harper is actually in a good situation this year with money.
哈珀今年的财运其实不错。
But as Ben Calhoun explains, that's about to change.
但正如本·卡尔霍恩 (Ben Calhoun) 所解释的那样，这种情况即将改变。
Harper's in a unique spot at the moment because it's what the Chicago school system calls a turnaround school.
哈珀目前处于一个独特的位置，因为它被芝加哥学校系统称为“扭亏为盈”的学校。
A few years ago, the system said Harper need an overhaul.
几年前，系统表示哈珀需要进行彻底改革。
So they turned over most of the staff, brought in new people, and infused the school with money, a lot of money.
所以他们调换了大部分员工，引进了新人，并向学校注入了资金，大量的资金。
Just to give you an idea, Harper's total budget this year is $8.9 million.
仅供参考，哈珀今年的总预算为 890 万美元。
$1.6 million of that is turnaround money.
其中 160 万美元是周转资金。
Last year, the turnaround money was even bigger, almost $2 million.
去年，扭亏为盈的资金甚至更多，接近 200 万美元。
One former district official involved in Harper's turnaround told me that Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, who used to run Chicago's schools, he said to his former colleagues, with these new turnaround initiatives, like the one at Harper, he wanted to, quote, "take the issue of money off the table," in other words, give them whatever they need.
一位参与哈珀扭亏为盈的前地区官员告诉我，曾经管理芝加哥学校的教育部长阿恩·邓肯（Arne Duncan）对他的前同事说，通过这些新的扭亏为盈举措，就像哈珀的举措一样，他想“把钱的问题从桌面上拿下来”，换句话说，给他们任何他们需要的东西。
So the plan was pretty much boost the school with a lot of federal, state, and city money, then as the changes took hold, slowly ramp down the money.
因此，该计划基本上是用大量联邦、州和市资金来推动学校发展，然后随着变化的发生，慢慢减少资金。
And then five years later, the funding would go back to normal.
五年后，资金将恢复正常。
That's next year.
那是明年了。
Next year is when the money goes away.
明年就是钱花光的时候。
In the fall, I sat down with Principal Sanders and the school's operations manager to talk about all this.
秋天，我与桑德斯校长和学校运营经理坐下来讨论了这一切。
They told me the money has done so much.
他们告诉我这笔钱做了很多事情。
There's a new culinary learning room, new computer equipment, small stuff like a new ID machine.
有一个新的烹饪学习室，新的计算机设备，还有像新的身份识别机这样的小东西。
Principal Sanders talks about the first year of turnaround like it was amazing.
桑德斯校长谈到第一年的转变时感觉非常惊人。
There were four assistant principals, reduced class sizes.
有四名副校长，班级人数减少。
There was the kind of support staff-- social workers and counselors-- in numbers that other schools only dream of.
这里有其他学校梦寐以求的支持人员——社会工作者和辅导员。
The operations manager told me he's been a Chicago Public Schools money guy for 15 years.
运营经理告诉我，他 15 年来一直为芝加哥公立学校提供资金。
He's been at more than 10 other high schools.
他曾就读过 10 多所其他高中。
He told me he's seen programs like the turnaround program before.
他告诉我他以前见过类似周转计划的计划。
It was called other things-- intervention, reconstitution but he says bluntly that Harper is the first time he's seen it work, partly because there's just been more money this time.
它被称为其他东西——干预、重建，但他直言不讳地说，哈珀是他第一次看到它起作用，部分原因是这次钱更多了。
So next year, though, Harper will lose the last $1.6 million of turnaround money, about 18% of its budget.
但明年，哈珀将损失最后 160 万美元的扭亏为盈，约占其预算的 18%。
And the biggest effect of that will be layoffs.
其中最大的影响将是裁员。
Hey, Miss Carter.
嘿，卡特小姐。
Is that a pass in your hand?
你手里的是通行证吗？
I'm so proud of you, Miss Carter.
我为你感到骄傲，卡特小姐。
What effect will layoffs have on Harper?
裁员对哈珀有何影响？
I spend a couple mornings with a staff member named Marcel Smith.
我和一位名叫马塞尔·史密斯的工作人员共度了几个早晨。
Marcel works on a program that tries to rescue kids who are failing out.
马塞尔致力于一项旨在拯救那些失败的孩子的计划。
Harper has a lot of initiatives like that.
哈珀有很多类似的举措。
There's mentoring programs and enrichment programs, all boosted by turnaround.
有指导计划和丰富计划，所有这些都受到扭亏为盈的推动。
So on paper, that's what Marcel does.
所以在纸面上，这就是马塞尔所做的。
But if you walk around with him, you see what Sanders sees, all the little things that would never be considered part of his job.
但如果你和他一起走来走去，你就会看到桑德斯看到的一切，所有这些小事永远不会被视为他工作的一部分。
The day I was with him, in the morning, Marcel came across a young man standing in the hallway.
我和他在一起的那天早上，马塞尔遇到一个年轻人站在走廊上。
The kid was keeping a straight face.
孩子一直板着脸。
But he was clearly upset.
但他显然很沮丧。
It turned out he'd been asked to leave his class.
原来他被要求离开班级。
As Marcel turned to deal with him, he asked me to turn off the recorder, so I did.
当马塞尔转身对付他时，他让我关掉录音机，我照做了。
They talked for a minute.
他们聊了一分钟。
Marcel took the kid to his office, sat him down, told him to wait.
马塞尔把孩子带到他的办公室，让他坐下，让他等一下。
And we walked away.
然后我们就走开了。
He didn't want to use the student's name.
他不想使用学生的名字。
But he explained what was going on.
但他解释了发生了什么事。
Apparently, the students were given an incentive for being on time.
显然，学生们因为准时而受到了激励。
And it was food.
那是食物。
Cookies.
曲奇饼。
It was cookies.
这是饼干。
And this student, along with everyone who'd gotten to class on time that day, was allowed to go up and take a cookie.
这位学生和当天准时到校的每个人都被允许上去拿一块饼干。
But this particular student was dealing with a difficult and maybe dangerous situation at his house.
但这位特殊的学生正在他的家里处理一个困难甚至可能危险的情况。
So he hadn't gone home the night before.
所以前一天晚上他就没有回家。
And because of that, he hadn't eaten.
正因为如此，他才没有吃饭。
So when he went up to take his cookie, he took two.
所以当他上去拿饼干时，他拿了两块。
The teacher told them to put one back.
老师叫他们把一张放回去。
Not wanting to reveal his situation to the rest of the class, he didn't say anything.
他不想让班上其他人知道自己的情况，所以没有说什么。
He just refused.
他只是拒绝了。
He told Marcel he was just so hungry.
他告诉马塞尔他只是太饿了。
That's why he'd been kicked out.
这就是他被赶出去的原因。
Marcel had a box of cereal in his office.
马塞尔的办公室里有一盒麦片粥。
And I walked with him as he zipped down to the cafeteria.
当他飞快地向自助餐厅走去时，我和他一起走着。
They were out of regular milk.
他们没有普通牛奶了。
Ladies?
女士们？
Ladies, how y'all doing?
女士们，你们好吗？
Can I get two chocolate milks, please?
请问可以给我两杯巧克力牛奶吗？
Thank you.
谢谢。
Back in Marcel's office, the student sat quietly, staring down, and ate a plastic bowl filled with Honey Nut Cheerios and chocolate milk.
回到马塞尔的办公室，这名学生安静地坐着，低着头，吃了一个装满蜂蜜坚果麦片和巧克力牛奶的塑料碗。
Then he got up, politely washed the bowl and spoon, said thank you to Marcel, and the two went back to his classroom.
然后他起身，礼貌地洗了碗和勺子，向马塞尔说了声谢谢，然后两人就回到了他的教室。
You see situations like this all the time at Harper, situations that could so easily unravel.
在哈珀，你经常会看到这样的情况，而且很容易就会崩溃。
And without thinking anything of it, they get addressed because someone is there and makes the effort to figure out what's going on.
无需多想，他们就会得到解决，因为有人在那里并努力弄清楚发生了什么。
It's stuff that'll never show up in a school budget.
这些东西永远不会出现在学校预算中。
But it can be the difference between a kid going back to class or getting suspended.
但这可能是孩子重返课堂或被停学的区别。
Kids, you know, you can't tell kids when not to have a good day.
孩子们，你知道，你不能告诉孩子们什么时候不开心。
Like, you can't have a good day on Tuesdays and Thursdays, because I'm not going to be there.
就像，你不能在周二和周四度过美好的一天，因为我不会在那里。
You can only have bad days on Monday, Wednesdays, and Fridays.
你只能在周一、周三和周五经历糟糕的日子。
This is exactly what Principle Sanders is worried about next year when the turnaround money goes away, the people she'll have to give up.
这正是桑德斯原则所担心的，明年当扭亏为盈的钱消失时，她将不得不放弃那些人。
Marcel's position is funded through next year.
马塞尔的职位的资金将持续到明年。
But he's exactly the kind of person who there won't be money for.
但他就是那种没有钱的人。
Assistant Principal Chad Adams, the school psychologist, numerous teaching positions-- not currently funded for next year.
助理校长查德·亚当斯（Chad Adams）是学校的心理学家，担任过许多教学职位——目前还没有为明年提供资金。
The social workers who you've heard working with Thomas and Devonte-- there's Crystal, and there's Anita-- next year, Anita will go away.
你听说过与托马斯和德文特一起工作的社会工作者——有克里斯托，还有安妮塔——明年，安妮塔将会离开。
And Crystal will only be part time.
而克里斯托只是兼职。
Altogether, Harper expects to lose at least a dozen people, about a tenth of the current staff.
哈珀预计总共将失去至少十几名员工，大约是现有员工的十分之一。
Two of the security staff who have seen Harper go through overhauls in the past say it always changes when the money is added.
两名过去曾见过哈珀进行大修的保安人员表示，当资金增加时，情况总是会发生变化。
But then everything goes backwards once it's lost.
但一旦失去，一切都会倒退。
There's more fights.
还有更多的争吵。
The violence gets worse.
暴力行为变得更加严重。
You know, I mean, there's not much we can do.
你知道，我的意思是，我们无能为力。
$1.6 million is a lot of money to lose.
160 万美元的损失是一笔巨款。
Every day, I wish I could win the lottery and just pay people out of my pocket.
每天，我都希望自己能中彩票，然后自掏腰包付钱给别人。
When Sanders first said that, it was a joke, not much to it.
当桑德斯第一次这么说时，这是一个笑话，并没有多大意义。
Except for what Ms. Sanders said then.
除了桑德斯女士当时所说的话。
She told me she does find herself thinking about what she would do if she won the lottery.
她告诉我，她确实在思考如果中了彩票她会做什么。
And a lot of that money, she'd put it into the school.
她把很多钱都捐给了学校。
I would hook Harper up.
我会把哈珀勾起来。
And everybody would be sitting back like, dang.
每个人都会坐下来，就像，天哪。
And I would say, yeah, I mean, they would have the state of the art labs.
我想说，是的，我的意思是，他们将拥有最先进的实验室。
Every student would have access to a computer.
每个学生都可以使用计算机。
Any of the capital resources, human resources, that we needed, they would have.
我们需要的任何资本资源、人力资源，他们都会拥有。
Sanders kept going like this for 4 minutes and 38 seconds.
桑德斯就这样持续了4分38秒。
With her imaginary millions, she bought big things, like vacant land near the school.
她用想象中的数百万美元买了很多大东西，比如学校附近的空地。
She rehabbed houses where students who are homeless would have a place to stay.
她修复了房屋，让无家可归的学生有地方住。
She created transportation programs to get kids to and from school safely.
她制定了交通计划，以确保孩子们安全上下学。
She did little things.
她做了一些小事。
She took a kid who came to school in a hoodie in the middle of winter, and she bought him a coat.
她带着一个在隆冬穿着连帽衫上学的孩子，给他买了一件外套。
She bought detergent for kids who didn't have soap to wash their uniforms.
她为没有肥皂洗制服的孩子们买了洗涤剂。
She spent, and she spent.
她花了，她也花了。
10 years, she said.
10年了，她说。
She'd structure it out so that the money would be spread out over 10 years.
她会进行规划，以便将资金分摊到十年内。
So things like that, if I was to win money.
如果我要赢钱的话，就会发生类似的事情。
It's such a need here.
这里有这样的需要。
It's just such a need here.
这里正是有这样的需要。
How often do you find yourself budgeting out that imaginary money, that if you had it?
如果你有的话，你是否经常发现自己在预算中花掉了这笔假想的钱？
I do it a lot.
我经常这样做。
[LAUGHS] I do it because every time, it's like a different situation.
[笑]我这样做是因为每次都会有不同的情况。
And I just sit back and say what if?
我只是坐下来说如果怎么办？
God, what if?
天哪，万一呢？
Ben Calhoun.
本·卡尔霍恩.
Act Six: We Are Harper High School Ira Glass Act Six, We Are Harper High School.
第六幕：我们是哈珀高中 艾拉·格拉斯 第六幕，我们是哈珀高中。
[SCHOOL BELL RINGING] Marcel Smith All right, be safe.
[校钟响起] 马塞尔·史密斯 好吧，注意安全。
Last day of the semester.
学期的最后一天。
This is the day that we ended our reporting at Harper.
这一天我们结束了在《哈珀》杂志的报道。
Marcel Smith, saying goodbye to kids who are on their way home.
马塞尔·史密斯（Marcel Smith）向回家途中的孩子们道别。
I saw that somebody tweeted after our first episode about Harper High School was broadcast.
我看到有人在我们关于哈珀高中的第一集播出后发了推文。
Somebody said that we found the most violent school in America or in Chicago or something.
有人说我们发现了美国或芝加哥之类最暴力的学校。
And I just want to say, that is not true.
我只想说，事实并非如此。
Nobody keeps statistics like that.
没有人像这样保存统计数据。
We just found a high school-- a high school that's seen a lot of shootings.
我们刚刚找到了一所高中——一所发生过很多枪击事件的高中。
And there are others.
还有其他的。
Hi, I'm Liz Dozier, the Principle of Finger High School on the far South Side of Chicago.
大家好，我是莉兹·多齐尔 (Liz Dozier)，是芝加哥最南端芬格高中的校长。
We've lost nine students to violence in the last little over three years.
在过去三年多的时间里，我们已经有九名学生因暴力事件而丧生。
I am Shontae Higgenbottom.
我是 Shontae Higgenbottom。
And I'm the new principal here at King College Prep High School here in Chicago.
我是芝加哥国王学院预科高中的新校长。
And this year, I've had two students who were shot during our Christmas break.
今年，我有两名学生在圣诞假期期间被枪杀。
And then we had the last case with Hadiya Pendleton.
最后一个案例是哈迪亚·彭德尔顿 (Hadiya Pendleton)。
And she died.
她死了。
My name is John Lynch.
我叫约翰·林奇。
I'm the Principle of Castlemont High School in Oakland, California.
我是加利福尼亚州奥克兰卡斯尔蒙特高中的校长。
So I've been at Castlemont High School for the past two and a half years.
过去两年半我一直在卡斯尔蒙特高中就读。
And in the time that I've been here, six students have been shot.
当我来到这里的时候，有六名学生被枪杀。
And two of those students who were shot were actually killed.
而其中两名被枪杀的学生实际上已经被杀。
I am Bertie Simmons.
我是伯蒂·西蒙斯。
And I am the Principal of Furr High School.
我是弗尔高中的校长。
And it's located on the Far East Side of Houston, Texas.
它位于德克萨斯州休斯顿的远东区。
In the last two years, I could name five students that were shot and killed.
在过去的两年里，我能说出五名被枪杀的学生的名字。
My name is Rahel Wondwossen.
我叫拉赫尔·旺德沃森。
And I am the Principle of Cohen College Prep High School.
我是科恩学院预科高中的校长。
We are located in Central City, New Orleans.
我们位于新奥尔良中心城。
At Cohen College Prep High School last year, we had two students who were shot.
去年，在科恩学院预科高中，我们有两名学生遭到枪击。
Both, thankfully, survived.
值得庆幸的是，两人都幸存下来。
And in the city of New Orleans, we had more than 10 students who were shot and killed.
在新奥尔良市，我们有十多名学生被枪杀。
My name is LaQuanda Jackson.
我的名字是拉昆达·杰克逊。
I'm the Principle of Simon Gratz Mastery Charter High School in Philadelphia.
我是费城西蒙·格拉茨大师特许高中的校长。
This year, we have lost one student to gun violence.
今年，我们因枪支暴力失去了一名学生。
Last year, we lost two students to gun violence.
去年，我们因枪支暴力失去了两名学生。
And the year before, there were six.
而前一年，有六个。
My name is Alberto Carvalho.
我的名字是阿尔贝托·卡瓦略。
I am the Superintendent of Miami-Dade County Public Schools right here in Florida.
我是佛罗里达州迈阿密戴德县公立学校的校长。
Over the past four and a half years, I have buried or attended viewings for 44 children who have died violent deaths right here in our community.
在过去的四年半里，我埋葬了 44 名在我们社区暴力死亡的儿童，或者参加了这些儿童的瞻仰活动。
Well, our program was produced today by our senior producer Julie Snyder, with Alex Blumberg, Ben Calhoun, Sarah Koenig, Miki Meek, John Menjivar, Lisa Pollak, Brian Reed, Robyn Semien, Alissa Shipp, and Nancy Updike.
嗯，我们的节目今天由我们的高级制作人 Julie Snyder 与 Alex Blumberg、Ben Calhoun、Sarah Koenig、Miki Meek、John Menjivar、Lisa Pollak、Brian Reed、Robyn Semien、Alissa Shipp 和 Nancy Updike 共同制作。
Production help from Phia Bennin.
菲亚·贝宁 (Phia Bennin) 提供制作帮助。
Seth Lind is our operations director.
塞思·林德 (Seth Lind) 是我们的运营总监。
Emily Condon's our production manager.
艾米丽·康登是我们的生产经理。
Elise Bergerson is our administrative assistant.
埃莉斯·伯格森是我们的行政助理。
Music help today from Damien Grey, from Rob Geddis.
今天的音乐由达米安·格雷 (Damien Grey) 和罗布·格迪斯 (Rob Geddis) 提供帮助。
Original musical scoring for today's program by Rob under the name The Latebloomer.
Rob 以 The Latebloomer 名义为今天的节目创作了原创音乐。
Other Latebloomer music is on SoundCloud.
其他 Latebloomer 音乐均在 SoundCloud 上。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] Our website-- thisamericanlife.org.
[致谢] 我们的网站——thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
WBEZ management oversight for our program by our boss, Mr. Tony Malatia, who went on one of those Prarie Home Companion vacations.
我们的老板 Tony Malatia 先生对我们的项目进行了 WBEZ 管理监督，他参加了 Prarie Home Companion 的一次度假。
He showed me pictures.
他给我看了照片。
They're incredible.
他们太不可思议了。
Every morning, Garrison Keillor personally wakes you at your bed in a white suit.
每天早上，加里森·凯勒都会穿着白色西装亲自在您的床上叫醒您。
This is part of the resort that we were on.
这是我们所在的度假村的一部分。
Every morning, you wake up and you see that.
每天早上，你醒来都会看到这一点。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。