487: Harper High School - Part One - This American Life
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Prologue Ira Glass Harper High School, South Side of Chicago, first day of school this year, first thing in the morning, everybody gathers in the gym for a beginning of the year assembly.
序言 芝加哥南区的艾拉·格拉斯·哈珀高中,今年开学的第一天,早上第一件事,大家都聚集在体育馆举行新年集会。
[GYM CHATTER] The School's principal, Leonetta Sanders, is at the mic.
[健身房闲聊] 学校校长 Leonetta Sanders 在麦克风前。
Sitting all together in a group are the freshmen, looking the way that freshmen do on the first day of school, like they barely know who they are--
新生们围坐在一起,一副开学第一天的样子,几乎不知道自己是谁——
The Class of 2016, where you at?
2016届毕业生,你在哪里?
The Class of 2016, where you at?
2016届毕业生,你在哪里?
[CHEERING] Ira Glass Down in front, sitting together, are the seniors, looking the way seniors do on the first day of school--
[欢呼]艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass) 坐在前面,是高年级学生,看起来就像高年级学生开学第一天的样子——
And then my babies are here, my Class of 2013, (YELLING) where you at?
然后我的宝贝们就在这里,我的 2013 届毕业生,(大喊)你们在哪里?
[CHEERING] Ira Glass The program is 1/3 pep rally, 2/3 business, introductions, and rules.
[欢呼] Ira Glass 节目内容为 1/3 鼓动集会,2/3 商务、介绍和规则。
Exactly the kind of first day stuff you'd expect at any school, till it's not.
这正是你在任何学校所期望的第一天的东西,直到它不是。
Last year was a difficult year for most of us, for all of us in the Harper community.
去年对于我们大多数人以及哈珀社区的所有人来说都是艰难的一年。
You know, and the freshman may not know, but we lost three students last year.
你知道,新生可能不知道,去年我们失去了三名学生。
This is actually underplaying the bad news.
这实际上低估了坏消息。
Last year, 21 kids, current and recent Harper students, were wounded by gunshots.
去年,有 21 名孩子(包括哈珀学院的现任学生和刚毕业的学生)遭到枪伤。
Five recent students died.
五名最近的学生死亡。
And that is all on top of the three current students that Miss Sanders mentioned.
这还不算桑德斯小姐提到的三名现任学生。
Total, 29 shot, eight of them dead.
总共 29 人中枪,其中 8 人死亡。
But we know that their spirits are with us.
但我们知道他们的精神与我们同在。
So right now, I just want to ask for a moment of silence and prayer as we think about and remember the students that have fallen.
所以现在,我只想请求大家默哀片刻并祈祷,让我们思考并缅怀那些倒下的学生。
So at this time, I'm just going to ask that we take about 20, 30 seconds, just for a moment of silence for Marcus Nunn, Cedric Bell, and Shakaki Asphy, right now.
所以现在,我想请大家花大约 20、30 秒的时间,为马库斯·纳恩、塞德里克·贝尔和沙卡基·阿斯菲默哀片刻。
Watching this, it's hard not to think that if you grafted these facts onto another high school in a wealthier place, maybe a suburb, dozens of students shot, three of them killed-- in other places, that would be national news, right?
看到这里,你很难不去想,如果你把这些事实移植到另一所位于较富裕地区的高中,也许是郊区,几十名学生被枪杀,其中三人被杀——在其他地方,那将是全国新闻,对吗?
We would all know the name of that school.
我们都知道那所学校的名字。
It's worth noting that this is a gym filled with hundreds of teenagers who, this very same morning, have been asked over and over to be quiet.
值得注意的是,这是一个挤满了数百名青少年的健身房,就在今天早上,他们被一遍又一遍地要求保持安静。
And who, like most teenagers, haven't exactly jumped to.
和大多数青少年一样,他们还没有完全跳到这一点。
When this moment comes, nothing moves.
当这一刻来临的时候,什么都没有动。
At this time, again, for the freshmen and some new students that are here, my name is Leonetta Sanders.
此时此刻,对于在场的新生和一些新生来说,我的名字是 Leonetta Sanders。
I am--
我是——
On Friday of this week, President Obama went to a Chicago high school and spoke about all the shootings happening in our cities.
本周五,奥巴马总统前往芝加哥的一所高中,谈到了我们城市发生的所有枪击事件。
We've all heard so much lately about kids getting shot.
最近我们都听说过很多关于孩子被枪杀的事情。
Last weekend, there was a funeral, 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton, an honor student who was shot in a park in mid-afternoon in Chicago, just a week after performing at an inaugural event in Washington.
上周末,15 岁的优等生哈迪亚·彭德尔顿 (Hadiya Pendleton) 举行了一场葬礼,他于下午三点左右在芝加哥的一个公园里被枪杀,当时距离华盛顿的首届活动表演仅一周。
Last year the number of murders in Chicago rose while in many other big cities like New York and Los Angeles, it held steady or fell.
去年,芝加哥的谋杀案数量有所上升,而纽约和洛杉矶等许多其他大城市的谋杀案数量则保持稳定或下降。
It was 506 dead in Chicago last year.
去年芝加哥有 506 人死亡。
But of course, these deaths aren't evenly distributed all over the city.
但当然,这些死亡人数并不是均匀分布在整个城市的。
The majority are in a handful of neighborhoods, like this one.
大多数都在少数几个社区,比如这个。
This is Englewood.
这是恩格尔伍德。
Police statistics show that it is one of the most dangerous areas of the city.
警方统计数据显示,这里是该市最危险的地区之一。
Though, if you're picturing some kind of chaotic, depressing, ghetto high school in the middle of all of that, Harper is anything but.
不过,如果你想象的是一所混乱、令人沮丧的贫民窟高中,那么哈珀绝对不是。
Amidst boarded up houses and vacant lots, it is a four story, yellow brick building.
这是一栋四层黄砖建筑,周围是用木板封起来的房屋和空地。
The grounds are neat and beautiful.
场地整洁而美丽。
The halls, walls, classrooms, cafeteria-- everything is well taken care of.
大厅、墙壁、教室、食堂——一切都被照顾得很好。
There's order.
有秩序了
Between passing periods, the halls are kept clear.
在休息期间,大厅保持干净。
It's clean.
很干净。
You can tell the staff likes the kids.
你可以看出工作人员喜欢孩子们。
Even the security guards-- there are 16 for a student body of just 550 or so.
就连保安也有 16 名,而学生人数只有 550 人左右。
They joke around.
他们开玩笑。
Let's go, freshmen!
咱们走吧,新生们!
Let's go!
我们走吧!
I have fresh meat.
我有新鲜的肉。
(LAUGHS) You can't be sleepy already.
(笑)你已经不能困了。
It just started.
一切才刚刚开始。
Principal Sanders sets the tone for the building.
桑德斯校长为这座建筑定下了基调。
And just listen here to how she informs a girl who showed up on the first day of school out of uniform that the girl can never do that again.
听听她是如何告诉一个开学第一天不穿校服出现的女孩,她再也不能这样做了。
Oh, my God!
我的天啊!
You look so cute!
你看起来真可爱!
Too bad you can't wear that white shirt.
可惜你不能穿那件白衬衫。
But you all look so cute!
但你们看起来都很可爱!
That's classic Harper.
这是哈珀的经典之作。
You're reprimanded, but with love.
你被训斥了,但是带着爱。
One consequence of all the violence last year, Ms. Sanders and other administrators had to spend a certain amount of this first day back to school trying to convince worried parents that it is safe to send their kids back to school here this year.
去年所有暴力事件的一个后果是,桑德斯女士和其他管理人员不得不在返回学校的第一天花费一定时间,试图说服忧心忡忡的家长,让他们的孩子今年回到学校是安全的。
None of last year's shootings actually happened at the school.
去年的枪击事件实际上都没有发生在学校。
This is assistant principal Chad Adams and a mom who wants to transfer her son out.
这是副校长查德·亚当斯 (Chad Adams),也是一位想要将儿子转出的母亲。
He doesn't want to come back?
他不想回来?
But he's been with us for two years.
但他已经和我们在一起两年了。
I know.
我知道。
Chad Adams And we've put so much time and work and love into him.
查德·亚当斯 我们在他身上投入了很多时间、工作和爱。
We want him to stay.
我们希望他留下来。
I know.
我知道。
Chad Adams And what was the reason?
查德·亚当斯 原因是什么?
You told me that grandmother said something.
你告诉我祖母说了一些话。
What was she saying again.
她又在说什么。
She said she don't want him up here because the fighting and the stuff going on.
她说她不想让他来这里,因为正在发生战斗和其他事情。
Yeah.
是的。
Chad Adams Yeah.
查德·亚当斯 是的。
So even if we've got someone to come to his house every morning and pick him up, like, if I drove over to his house every morning and picked him up, you still wouldn't want him to come?
所以,即使我们每天早上有人去他家接他,就像,如果我每天早上开车去他家接他,你仍然不希望他来吗?
This is not, by the way, a theoretical question.
顺便说一句,这不是一个理论问题。
Administrators do pick up some kids and drive them to school.
管理人员确实会接一些孩子并开车送他们去学校。
Here at our radio show, we first heard about Harper this summer, when our colleague, Linda Lutton, who covers education at our home station, WBEZ in Chicago, did a story about the death of a 16-year-old sophomore named Shakaki Asphy, who played on the school's basketball team.
今年夏天,在我们的广播节目中,我们第一次听说哈珀,当时我们的同事琳达·卢顿 (Linda Lutton) 在我们的家乡芝加哥 WBEZ 电台报道教育问题,她报道了一名 16 岁的二年级学生沙卡基·阿斯菲 (Shakaki Asphy) 的死亡,他是学校篮球队的队员。
Shakaki was shot while standing on a porch talking to a friend near the end of the school year.
夏卡基在学年快结束时站在门廊上与朋友交谈时被枪杀。
Her murder was such a blow to the staff and the students that even Principal Sanders-- who's been at the school for years and is definitely not easy to rattle-- even Principal Sanders said that it made her wonder if she could continue doing this work.
她的谋杀对教职员工和学生来说是一个沉重的打击,就连桑德斯校长——她已经在学校工作多年,绝对不容易发脾气——甚至桑德斯校长也表示,这让她怀疑自己是否还能继续做这项工作。
She showed Linda this list that she'd been keeping, for a year at that point, of all the kids who had been shot from Harper.
她向琳达展示了这份名单,她已经保存了一年,上面列出了所有被哈珀枪杀的孩子。
Shakaki was number 27.
沙卡基排名第27。
All of us here knew, of course, about the murders in Chicago.
当然,我们这里所有人都知道芝加哥的谋杀案。
But when we heard Linda's story about this one school with 27 shootings, at that point, in a year, we thought this is a school that knows this problem in a way that most of us around the country never see, don't know.
但当我们听到琳达讲述这所学校一年内发生 27 起枪击事件时,我们认为这所学校以我们全国大多数人从未见过、不知道的方式了解这个问题。
And we wondered, what if we spent a long period of time there, to witness what they're witnessing?
我们想知道,如果我们在那里度过很长一段时间,亲眼目睹他们所目睹的一切会怎样?
Harper agreed to let us send three reporters in, starting at the beginning of this school year.
哈珀同意让我们从本学年开始派出三名记者。
And they gave us unusual access for more than five months, for a full semester.
他们为我们提供了五个多月、整个学期的不寻常的访问权限。
When violence struck, they let us record the administrators as the administrators jumped into action.
当暴力发生时,他们让我们记录管理员采取的行动。
They let us into private, difficult meetings with parents and students.
他们让我们与家长和学生进行私人的、艰难的会议。
And we watched the staff try to recover from the terrible year that they had last year and try to make this year different.
我们看到员工们努力从去年糟糕的一年中恢复过来,并努力让今年变得不同。
As you'll hear, they devote incredible energy to trying to keep their students alive.
正如您将听到的,他们投入了令人难以置信的精力来维持学生的生存。
So much happened that we could not fit this all into one program.
发生了太多事情,我们无法将所有这些都整合到一个程序中。
So what we're going to do is we're going to start our story at Harper this week.
所以我们要做的就是本周在《哈珀》杂志上开始我们的故事。
And we're going to continue it next week.
我们将在下周继续。
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life, distributed by Public Radio International.
这是来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》,由国际公共广播电台发行。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
I hope you'll stay with us.
我希望你能留下来和我们在一起。
So our reporters today and next week are Linda Lutton, who covers Chicago schools for our home station, WBEZ, like I said; Ben Calhoun, from our staff, who used to be a Chicago reporter; and Alex Kotlowitz, who's written many times over the years about violence in Chicago and its effect on kids growing up there.
所以我们今天和下周的记者是琳达·卢顿 (Linda Lutton),她为我们的主站 WBEZ 报道芝加哥学校,就像我说的;本·卡尔霍恩 (Ben Calhoun),我们的员工,曾是芝加哥记者;亚历克斯·科特洛维茨(Alex Kotlowitz)多年来多次撰写有关芝加哥暴力及其对在那里长大的孩子的影响的文章。
And let's just start.
让我们开始吧。
Let's start by jumping ahead a little ways into the school year for Act One, Rules to Live By, from Linda.
让我们先进入学年第一幕,即琳达的《生活规则》。
Two weeks after that first day assembly, Assistant Principal Chad Adams, the same guy you heard trying to convince a mom to re-enroll her kid in Harper this year, is in the hallways.
第一天集会两周后,助理校长查德·亚当斯(Chad Adams)出现在走廊里,他就是你今年试图说服一位妈妈让她的孩子重新在哈珀学校注册的那个人。
He spots a sophomore, a new kid, a transfer student named Jordan.
他发现了一个大二学生,一个新生,一个名叫乔丹的转学生。
Mr. Adams tells Jordan he needs to talk to him in his office.
亚当斯先生告诉乔丹,他需要在他的办公室与他交谈。
There have been changes in his schedule, he says, though this is just a ploy.
他说,他的日程安排发生了变化,尽管这只是一种策略。
They go to his office.
他们去了他的办公室。
And Mr. Adams gets to the real purpose.
亚当斯先生达到了真正的目的。
He asks Jordan where he lives.
他问乔丹住在哪里。
69th and Loomis.
69号和卢米斯。
Chad Adams 69th and Loomis?
查德·亚当斯 69 岁和卢米斯?
Yeah.
是的。
Chad Adams So that way?
查德·亚当斯 就这样吗?
Who's on that block?
谁在那个街区?
Like, what you mean?
就像,你的意思是?
Chad Adams You know.
查德·亚当斯 你知道。
Who on that block?
谁在那个街区?
Who runs that block?
谁管理那个街区?
What Mr. Adams is trying to figure out is what gang Jordan is affiliated with and what gangs he might potentially have conflicts with here at Harper.
亚当斯先生试图弄清楚乔丹属于哪个帮派,以及他在哈珀可能与哪些帮派发生冲突。
Without hesitating, Jordan tells Mr. Adams he's affiliated with a gang called Face World.
乔丹毫不犹豫地告诉亚当斯先生,他隶属于一个名为“面孔世界”的帮派。
And they're friendly with a half dozen other gangs.
他们与其他六个帮派关系友好。
They're cliqued up, kids say.
孩子们说,他们结成了小团体。
Well, we cliqued up with J-Town right there on 69th.
好吧,我们就在 69 号与 J-Town 结成了小集团。
Hoodville, Low Block, Hit Squad, COB.
胡德维尔,低座,Hit Squad,COB。
We got a lot.
我们得到了很多。
A lot of people want to get into it with us, though, I ain't gonna lie.
不过,很多人想和我们一起参与其中,我不会撒谎。
I know.
我知道。
Your name was hot last spring.
去年春天你的名字很火。
What was going on last spring?
去年春天发生了什么?
It's a war zone around there.
那里是战区。
I can't lie.
我不能说谎。
It's just a war zone.
这只是一个战区。
People like us-- we so close to each other, it don't make no sense.
像我们这样的人——我们彼此如此亲密,这没有任何意义。
'Cause we right-- our opposition is right down the street.
因为我们对——我们的反对派就在街上。
Literally, it's on the next block.
从字面上看,它在下一个街区。
So, like, we on 70th and Rockwell, and they on 71st and Rockwell.
所以,就像我们在 70 号和罗克韦尔,他们在 71 号和罗克韦尔。
That's how close we is.
这就是我们的距离。
So--
所以——
They talk about this for 15 minutes.
他们讨论了这个问题 15 分钟。
And what's remarkable is how matter of fact it is.
值得注意的是事实如此。
They might as well be talking about what bus Jordan needs to take home or where the cafeteria is.
他们还不如谈论乔丹需要带什么巴士回家或者自助餐厅在哪里。
There's no shame to admitting your gang affiliation.
承认自己的帮派关系并不丢脸。
It's nothing you have to keep a secret.
没什么你必须保守的秘密。
Mr. Adams has one more goal for this meeting.
亚当斯先生对这次会议还有一个目标。
All right.
好的。
So I haven't met you yet because you weren't here last year.
所以我还没有见到你,因为去年你不在这里。
But I'm Mr. Adams.
但我是亚当斯先生。
I'm the assistant principal.
我是校长助理。
This is my office.
这是我的办公室。
All right, so can we make an agreement today that if something happens in the block, or something happens in the school, that you'll-- that you'll come to me to help you fix the problem?
好吧,我们今天可以达成协议,如果街区里发生什么事,或者学校里发生什么事,你会来找我来帮助你解决问题吗?
And we'll use this?
我们会用这个吗?
Adams points to his head.
亚当斯指着自己的头。
Chad Adams Look at me, Mr. Rogers.
查德·亚当斯 看着我,罗杰斯先生。
We'll use this, instead of this.
我们将使用这个,而不是这个。
He points to his fists.
他指着自己的拳头。
Chad Adams Can we make an agreement?
查德·亚当斯 我们可以达成协议吗?
See, I make an agreement, like, if something happened in school.
看,我做了一个约定,比如,如果学校里发生了什么事。
Like, if something happened in school, I would probably come to you and tell you, like, what was going down.
就像,如果学校里发生了什么事,我可能会来找你,告诉你发生了什么。
But outside is a whole different story.
但外面却是一个完全不同的故事。
And I'm not saying that I'm going to be able to help you with your problems outside the school.
我并不是说我能够帮助你解决校外的问题。
I'm just saying if something happens on the block that might lead back into the building, that you'll come to me so we can fix it here, so you don't have to worry about it here.
我只是说,如果街区里发生了一些可能会导致你回到大楼的事情,你会来找我,这样我们就可以在这里解决它,所以你不必在这里担心。
Um, I'll try to keep my worrying on the outside and might keep that agreement.
嗯,我会尽量把我的担忧留在外面,并且可能会遵守这个协议。
But it is probably going to be hard, though.
但这可能会很困难。
OK.
好的。
You know, and that's OK.
你知道,那没关系。
I know it's going to be hard.
我知道这会很困难。
It's not an easy agreement.
这不是一个容易达成的协议。
If it's-- if it's-- if I get into a problem with that [INAUDIBLE], if I get into a problem with one of [INAUDIBLE] people in this school, I ain't going to lie.
如果是——如果是——如果我遇到了[听不清]的问题,如果我遇到了这所学校[听不清]的人的问题,我不会撒谎。
I'm probably not even going to come here.
我可能根本不会来这里。
I'll probably just go and do it right there, 'cause the problem escalated.
我可能会直接去那里做,因为问题升级了。
'Cause ain't no talking with them.
因为没有和他们说话。
Maybe you think you have an idea of how street gangs operate.
也许您认为您了解街头帮派的运作方式。
Crips and Bloods, people and folks, controlling huge swaths of the city, shooting it out over drug territory, a single gang leader controlling thousands of members, a strictly enforced hierarchy branching out underneath him, with gang colors and hats tilted to the right or left.
瘸子和血人,人民和民间,控制着城市的大片地区,在毒品领地上进行扫射,一个帮派头目控制着数千名成员,在他的下面有一个严格执行的等级制度,帮派的颜色和帽子向左或向右倾斜。
For this hour, forget all that.
在这一个小时里,忘掉这一切。
The gangs in the Englewood neighborhood today are not those gangs.
今天恩格尔伍德社区的帮派已经不是以前的帮派了。
There's no central leader, no hierarchy, no colors.
没有中央领导,没有等级制度,没有肤色。
The fights aren't over drug territory.
争斗并非围绕毒品领域。
In fact, lots of these gangs aren't even selling drugs.
事实上,许多团伙甚至不贩卖毒品。
They're different gangs with different rules.
他们是不同的帮派,有不同的规则。
These rules apply absolutely to boys.
这些规则绝对适用于男孩。
Girls get slightly more leeway.
女孩子的自由度稍微大一些。
Rule number one, look at a map.
规则第一,看地图。
When I ask kids what their parents don't understand about gangs these days, they say it's this.
当我问孩子们,他们的父母现在对帮派有什么不明白的地方时,他们说就是这个。
Their parents tell them not to join a gang, as if there's some initiation to go through, some way to sign up.
他们的父母告诉他们不要加入帮派,好像需要经过某种入会仪式,需要某种方式才能注册。
Today, whether or not you want to be in a gang, you're in one.
今天,无论你是否想加入一个帮派,你都是其中之一。
If you live on pretty much any block near Harper High School, you have been assigned a gang.
如果你住在哈珀高中附近的任何一个街区,你就会被分配到一个帮派。
Your mother bought a house on 72nd and Hermitage?
你妈妈在 72 号和 Hermitage 买了房子?
You're S Dub.
你是S杜布。
You live across the street from the school?
你住在学校的街对面吗?
That's D-Ville.
那是D-维尔。
When you ask kids or cops or school staff how it got like this, they'll tell you that at one point this whole area was controlled pretty much by a single gang, the Gangster Disciples.
当你问孩子、警察或学校工作人员事情是怎么变成这样时,他们会告诉你,整个地区一度几乎被一个团伙——黑帮弟子——控制。
But, and this is how most people tell this part of the story, Chicago police have been so effective at locking up the big gang leaders that the hierarchy of those gangs has crumbled.
但是,大多数人都是这样讲述这部分故事的,芝加哥警方在逮捕大帮派头目方面非常有效,以至于这些帮派的等级制度已经崩溃。
And that's left a lot of room for newcomers.
这给新人留下了很大的空间。
Your gang might control nothing more than the block you live on.
你的帮派可能只控制你居住的街区。
In Harper's attendance area alone, which is a couple square miles, there are more than 15 gangs, also known as cliques, sets, factions, or crews.
仅在哈珀出没的几平方英里的区域内,就有超过 15 个帮派,也称为派系、帮派、派别或帮派。
Some don't have anyone in charge.
有些没有人负责。
But they do have guns.
但他们确实有枪。
That's what every kid has told me.
这是每个孩子都告诉我的。
Otherwise, why would you call yourself a gang, they say.
他们说,否则,你为什么要称自己为帮派。
Aaron Washington is a police officer assigned to Harper.
亚伦·华盛顿是一名分配给哈珀的警官。
He's there seven hours a day, seems to know every kid in the school.
他每天在那里呆七个小时,似乎认识学校里的每个孩子。
He says that for protection, for survival, kids walk to school with the kids in their clique, often through enemy territory.
他说,为了保护、为了生存,孩子们和小团体的孩子们一起步行上学,通常要穿过敌方领土。
So I ask him, what if I'm a kid, and I really don't want any part of this gang stuff.
所以我问他,如果我是个孩子怎么办,我真的不想参与这个帮派的任何事情。
How can I avoid it?
我怎样才能避免它?
He says it used to be possible to be neutral, what they called a neutron.
他说过去可能是中性的,他们称之为中子。
There is no neutrons anymore.
不再有中子了。
It used to be if you played sports or you were academically better than the average kid, they didn't bother you.
过去,如果你参加体育运动或者你的学业成绩比一般孩子好,他们不会打扰你。
Now it's different.
现在情况不同了。
It doesn't matter.
没关系。
If you live here, you're part of them.
如果你住在这里,你就是他们的一部分。
You know, you live on that block, or you live in that area, you one of them.
你知道,你住在那个街区,或者你住在那个地区,你就是其中之一。
The way they get to school, they have to come to school with one of these factions, one of these gangs.
他们去学校的路上,他们必须和这些派系之一、这些帮派之一一起上学。
They going to come to school with them.
他们要和他们一起去学校。
They don't have a choice.
他们别无选择。
I can hardly believe that a Chicago police officer is telling me this, admitting that kids don't have a choice about being gang affiliated.
我简直不敢相信一名芝加哥警察告诉我这些,承认孩子们没有选择是否加入帮派。
I've never heard police talk like this.
我从来没有听过警察这样说话。
Later I ask Officer Washington if he'll get in trouble for saying this.
后来我问华盛顿警官,他这样说是否会惹上麻烦。
I mean, aren't cops supposed to just tell kids, hey, don't join a gang?
我的意思是,警察不是应该告诉孩子们,嘿,不要加入帮派吗?
I'll put it like this.
我会这样说。
I'm not saying it is OK to be in a gang.
我并不是说加入帮派就可以了。
And I'm not saying I approve of it, I agree with it.
我并不是说我赞成它,我同意它。
If I could take them all, and say, hey, look here, ain't no gangs, you know?
如果我能把他们全部带走,然后说,嘿,看这里,没有帮派,你知道吗?
I'd do that.
我会那么做。
But this ain't a fairy tale.
但这不是童话故事。
And this is the point.
这就是重点。
Gangs aren't the bad kids in the corner here.
帮派并不是这里角落里的坏孩子。
They're the defining social structure in the school.
他们是学校里决定性的社会结构。
It's who you sit with at lunch, the kids you say hi to in the hallway.
这是你在午餐时和你坐在一起的人,是你在走廊里向孩子们打招呼的人。
It's the water everybody swims in.
这是每个人都在里面游泳的水。
Assistant Principal Adams guesses that fewer than 10% of Harper students are actually gangbanging, that is, active on the block, involved in crime.
助理校长 Adams 猜测,只有不到 10% 的哈珀学生实际上参与了帮派活动,即活跃在街区、参与犯罪。
He thinks all the rest of the kids in the school are just caught up by where they live.
他认为学校里的所有其他孩子都只是被他们居住的地方所吸引。
OK.
好的。
So rule number one is know your geography.
所以第一条规则是了解你的地理位置。
Rule number two, never walk by yourself.
第二条规则,永远不要自己走路。
[STREET NOISE] One day at dismissal, I thought I saw a freshman walking home alone.
[街道噪音] 有一天放学时,我以为我看到一名新生独自走回家。
I stopped you because you were walking by yourself.
我拦住你,因为你一个人走。
But I was wrong.
但我错了。
Larnell We're walking with them.
拉内尔:我们和他们一起走。
Larnell now pointed over his shoulder at a couple of girls about 15 feet back.
拉内尔现在回头指着身后约 15 英尺处的几个女孩。
So you're actually walking with the girls back there?
那么你真的和后面的女孩们一起散步吗?
What's the advantage?
有什么好处?
Larnell It's not trying to get jumped on and shot.
拉内尔:它并不是想被人跳上来然后射杀。
'Cause they be fighting and shooting up there almost every day.
因为他们几乎每天都在那里战斗和射击。
Because won't nobody mess with somebody in a group, walking in a group.
因为不会有人打扰一群人中的某个人,一群人一起行走。
And that's true.
确实如此。
But it's complicated, because of rule number three.
但这很复杂,因为第三条规则。
Rule number three, never walk with someone else.
规则第三,永远不要和别人一起走路。
See, walking in a group can send its own message.
看吧,走在群体中可以传递自己的信息。
If you're with a group of boys in Englewood-- on your porch, walking home from school-- you're highlighting your affiliation, which makes you more of a target.
如果你在恩格尔伍德和一群男孩在一起——在你的门廊上,从学校步行回家——你就在强调你的归属,这让你更容易成为目标。
It's a huge catch-22 for kids in this neighborhood.
对于附近的孩子来说,这是一个巨大的“22条军规”。
If you walk alone, you risk being jumped.
如果你独自行走,你就有被跳下去的危险。
If you walk with someone else, you risk being labeled as a gang member and being shot.
如果您与其他人同行,您可能会被贴上帮派成员的标签并被枪杀。
Rule number four, don't use the sidewalk.
规则四,不要走人行道。
Every day at dismissal, kids drift out of Harper High School and walk along Wood Street, actually, right down the middle of Wood Street.
每天放学时,孩子们都会从哈珀高中出来,沿着伍德街散步,实际上,就在伍德街的中间。
It's a strange scene.
这是一个奇怪的场景。
Cars drive slowly, waiting for students to move out of the way.
汽车缓慢行驶,等待学生让路。
One teacher told me that when she first arrived at Harper, she thought this was just plain hooliganism, the teenagers taking over.
一位老师告诉我,当她第一次来到哈珀时,她认为这只是青少年的流氓行为。
One afternoon, a girl named Alex explained, that's not it at all.
一天下午,一位名叫亚历克斯的女孩解释说,根本不是这样的。
We feel safer like this.
这样我们感觉更安全。
For some reason, we just feel safe like that.
出于某种原因,我们就是这样感到安全。
We never like to walk past trees and stuff.
我们从不喜欢走过树木和其他东西。
There's too much stuff going on.
发生的事情太多了。
Too much stuff going on is shorthand here for the shootings, the fights, the craziness.
这里发生的事情太多了,是枪击、打斗、疯狂的简写。
It's better to walk down the middle of the street, where you can keep a broad view of things, and where you have a few more seconds to run if you need to.
最好沿着街道中间走,这样你可以看到更广阔的视野,如果需要的话,你还有几秒钟的时间可以跑。
Rule number five, if they shoot, don't run.
第五条规则,如果他们开枪,不要跑。
12th grader Antoryio was on the Harper High School football team.
12 年级学生 Antoryio 是哈珀高中橄榄球队的成员。
In fact, he's one of the best running backs in the entire city of Chicago.
事实上,他是整个芝加哥市最好的跑卫之一。
On the field, he zips around linemen like they're not even there, cutting and weaving, and then racing for the end zone.
在球场上,他在边锋周围飞驰,就像他们根本不在那儿一样,切入、迂回,然后冲向达阵区。
Those are skills he purposefully ignores when shot at.
这些都是他在受到攻击时故意忽略的技能。
I fall to the ground.
我倒在地上。
Linda Lutton That's your strategy?
琳达·卢顿 这就是你的策略?
Yeah, 'cause you run, you'll probably get shot in the back or something like that.
是的,因为你逃跑,你可能会被背后枪击或类似的事情。
So I just fall to the ground.
所以我只能倒在地上。
Most people, like, shoot from, like-- say, we, like, in front of my house, they'd shoot from the corner.
大多数人,就像,从,比如说,我们,就像,在我家前面,他们会从角落里射击。
Or do a drive-by in their cars, so I just fall to the ground.
或者开着他们的车经过,所以我就倒在地上。
OK.
好的。
By now you may be wondering, if these gangs aren't fighting over drug territory, what are the shootings about?
现在您可能想知道,如果这些团伙不是为了毒品领地而战,那么枪击事件是为了什么?
That brings us to rule number six.
这就引出了第六条规则。
Rule number six, you can be shot for reasons big and small.
第六条规则,你可能会因大大小小的原因被枪杀。
If you ask the police or school officials or kids what the shootings are about, they'll mention girls, money owed.
如果你问警察、学校官员或孩子们枪击事件的原因,他们会提到女孩、欠钱等问题。
There was a paintball incident that led to real guns going off.
发生了一场彩弹事件,导致真枪走火。
Petty stuff, like losing a fist fight, he-said she-said arguments, often they'll tell you a shooting is over nothing.
一些小事,比如打架失败,他说她说争论,通常他们会告诉你枪击事件毫无意义。
Retaliation for earlier shootings is a big reason for getting shot.
对早期枪击事件的报复是遭到枪击的一个重要原因。
Shootings can ping pong back and forth between rival gangs for years.
枪击事件可以在敌对帮派之间来回持续多年。
Of course, you can also be shot for walking off your block.
当然,您也可能因走出街区而被枪杀。
And finally, rule number seven, never go outside.
最后,第七条规则,永远不要外出。
When I ask kids for advice about staying alive in this neighborhood, they told me the best advice was to stay away from your block as long as possible every day.
当我向孩子们询问有关在这个社区生存的建议时,他们告诉我最好的建议是每天尽可能远离你的街区。
Get involved in something at school so you can stay as late as they let you.
在学校参与一些活动,这样你就可以在学校允许的时间内呆到很晚。
When you do go home, don't leave the house.
当你回家时,不要离开家。
Don't even go on the porch.
甚至不要去门廊。
If you want to see the lengths you have to go to not be part of the gang, you should meet a senior named Deonte.
如果你想知道要付出多大的努力才能不成为该团伙的一员,你应该会见一位名叫德翁特的前辈。
Being anti-gang is Deonte's entire identity.
反帮派是德昂特的全部身份。
He's an outspoken Christian.
他是一位直言不讳的基督徒。
He holds Bible study in his living room.
他在客厅里进行圣经学习。
Other kids come to him for advice, a role he wholly embraces.
其他孩子向他寻求建议,他完全接受这个角色。
He's poised to be the valedictorian.
他准备成为告别演说者。
When you talk to Deonte, you get a sense of what it takes to stay away from the gangs.
当您与德翁特交谈时,您就会了解如何才能远离帮派。
Do you ever go out, like just around the neighborhood?
你有没有出去过,比如在附近附近?
Oh, no. Not at all, and in a way, that can be bad as well.
哦,不。完全不是,而且在某种程度上,这也可能很糟糕。
Because that's when depression is easy to set in.
因为这个时候抑郁症很容易出现。
That took a hold on me, 'cause I've been in the house for about three years.
这件事一直困扰着我,因为我已经在这所房子里呆了大约三年了。
I've been staying in the house a lot.
我已经在房子里呆了很多时间了。
Do you feel lonely?
你感到孤独吗?
Deonte At times.
德翁特 有时。
At times, I feel lonely.
有时,我感到孤独。
At times, I would want to have some friends.
有时,我也想有一些朋友。
'Cause I'm not really friends with anybody.
因为我和任何人都不是真正的朋友。
If you think about high school, how important friends are during that time, imagine going through that with your whole goal being to avoid your school's social structure completely for four years.
如果你想想高中时期,朋友在这段时间是多么重要,想象一下,你的整个目标是在四年内完全避开学校的社交结构。
It's an incredibly high price to steer clear of the violence.
避免暴力的代价极其高昂。
It's a price most teenagers anywhere would find almost impossible to pay.
这是任何地方的大多数青少年几乎无法支付的代价。
Linda Lutton.
琳达·卢顿。
Act Two, a Tiny Office on the Second Floor.
第二幕,二楼的一间小办公室。
So the place in the school where staff deals most directly with the effects of the violence on students is the social work office, as you'd kind of expect.
因此,正如您所期望的那样,学校中工作人员最直接处理暴力对学生影响的地方是社会工作办公室。
Alex Kotlowitz has this story about one of the students that the social workers took under their wings.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨(Alex Kotlowitz)讲述了一个关于社会工作者庇护下的一名学生的故事。
I first met Devonte, a junior, back on the first day of school when he and his mom came in for a meeting with Principal Sanders.
我第一次见到大三学生德文特是在开学第一天,当时他和他的妈妈来见桑德斯校长。
Devonte was a Harper student who had been temporarily transferred and was now just returning.
德文特是哈珀学院的学生,暂时转学,现在刚刚回来。
Sanders was happy to see him, but everyone seemed a little tense, a little careful.
桑德斯很高兴见到他,但每个人都显得有点紧张,有点小心。
I couldn't tell exactly what was going on.
我无法确切地说出发生了什么事。
And we're not going to push you to get into any activities.
我们不会强迫您参加任何活动。
Just, you know, you take your time right now.
只是,你知道,你现在慢慢来。
Just get back into the swing of school.
回到学校的氛围吧。
'Cause we starting a whole fresh slate here.
因为我们在这里重新开始。
It was only later that I learned the full story.
直到后来我才知道整个故事。
That last February, Devonte accidentally shot and killed his 14-year-old brother.
去年 2 月,德文特意外枪杀了他 14 岁的弟弟。
After the shooting, the Harper staff had been concerned that kids might taunt Devonte, so he was transferred to a different school.
枪击事件发生后,《哈珀》杂志的工作人员担心孩子们可能会嘲笑德文特,因此他被转到另一所学校。
Now that he was back, a few weeks into school, he's been stopping by the school social worker's office two or three times a day to meet with one of the social workers there, Crystal Smith.
现在他回来了,开学几周了,他每天都会去学校社会工作者办公室两三次,会见那里的一位社会工作者克里斯托·史密斯(Crystal Smith)。
Close that door for me, [INAUDIBLE].
为我关上那扇门,[听不清]。
Because you know, I don't what people, you know, walking by, all up in our conversation and stuff, you know?
因为你知道,我不知道我们谈话中走过的人是什么,你知道吗?
The shooting happened last winter, after school.
枪击事件发生在去年冬天放学后。
Devonte says his brother had somehow gotten his hands on an old handgun, which neither of them thought worked.
德文特说,他的兄弟不知怎么弄到了一把旧手枪,但他们都认为这把枪不起作用。
In their third floor apartment, they both handled the weapon.
在他们三楼的公寓里,他们都拿着武器。
While Devonte was holding it, it somehow went off.
当德文特拿着它时,它不知何故爆炸了。
A judge later ruled it an accident-- reckless discharge of a firearm.
法官后来裁定这是一起事故——鲁莽开枪。
Devonte's brother Damion died an hour later in the hospital.
一小时后,德文特的弟弟达米恩在医院去世。
Devonte hasn't had any intensive counseling since the shooting.
自枪击事件发生以来,德文特没有接受过任何密集的咨询。
So for Crystal, establishing a relationship with him is tricky.
所以对于克里斯托来说,和他建立关系是一件很棘手的事情。
What you eat for lunch?
午餐吃什么?
How you going to not let me share it with you?
你怎么不让我和你分享呢?
I ate, um, chicken patties.
我吃了,嗯,鸡肉饼。
Alex Kotlowitz To make him feel safe enough with her to talk about his feelings, and most importantly about his guilt, she often bounces around in their meetings from totally superficial things, like lunch, to more substantive subjects, like Devonte smoking marijuana.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨(Alex Kotlowitz)为了让他感到足够安全,可以谈论他的感受,最重要的是谈论他的内疚,她经常在他们的会议上从完全肤浅的事情(比如午餐)到更实质性的话题(比如德文特吸食大麻)。
He tells Crystal he hasn't smoked in a while.
他告诉克里斯托他已经有一段时间没有抽烟了。
And she does an impression of him when he's high.
当他兴奋的时候,她会给他留下深刻的印象。
When you're smoking, you be, like, (SLURRING) what's up, Miss Smith?
当你抽烟的时候,你会(含糊不清)问,怎么了,史密斯小姐?
I'd be like, dude, you know you high, right?
我会说,伙计,你知道你很嗨,对吧?
(SLURRING) Naw, I'm straight.
(含糊不清)不,我是直的。
[LAUGHS] That'd be you.
[笑]那就是你。
You don't even be remembering that we done had a conversation, do you?
你甚至不记得我们已经谈过话了,是吗?
I know-- I do, I do remember this one, though.
我知道——我知道,不过我确实记得这个。
What?
什么?
Devonte To my moms, who might throw my little brother's bed away, and I don't want her to throw it away and stuff.
Devonte:致我的妈妈们,她们可能会扔掉我弟弟的床,但我不想让她扔掉它之类的东西。
He's worried his mom might throw away his little brother's bed.
他担心他妈妈可能会扔掉他弟弟的床。
So we talked about-- can I say this?
所以我们讨论了——我可以这样说吗?
It helps him to sleep at night if he sleeps in his brother's bed.
如果他睡在他哥哥的床上,这有助于他晚上入睡。
But his mother was contemplating throwing the bed away.
但他的母亲正在考虑扔掉这张床。
And so I had told him that if I needed to, I would call her and let her know why it's important for him to be able to, you know, keep the bed.
所以我告诉他,如果需要的话,我会给她打电话,让她知道为什么能够保留这张床对他来说很重要。
Right?
正确的?
Yeah, I'm with you.
是的,我和你在一起。
Crystal Smith If it's too much, you just say, I'm done.
克里斯托·史密斯:如果太多了,你就说,我受够了。
Nah, it ain't too much.
不,这还不算太多。
Crystal Smith OK.
克里斯托·史密斯 好的。
The day after his brother's funeral, Devonte showed up at Harper wearing a t-shirt with a picture of his brother on it.
弟弟葬礼后的第二天,德文特穿着一件印有弟弟照片的 T 恤出现在哈珀出版社。
There were food stains on the shirt, leading Crystal to believe he'd probably slept in it.
衬衫上有食物污渍,克里斯托相信他可能穿着它睡觉。
Crystal says before the shooting, Devonte barely came to school.
克里斯托说,枪击事件发生前,德文特几乎没有来学校。
He was aggressive and surly with the staff.
他对工作人员态度咄咄逼人,脾气暴躁。
But here he was, the day after burying his brother.
但在埋葬他兄弟的第二天,他就在这里了。
And Crystal realized that Devonte needed to be at Harper, that he needed her.
克里斯托意识到德文特需要在哈珀,他需要她。
She's still just at the beginning of figuring out what she can do for Devonte.
她才刚刚开始思考自己能为德文特做些什么。
He's cracked the door, she told me, but it's the size of a mouse hole.
她告诉我,他把门打开了,但门只有老鼠洞那么大。
I spent most of my time at Harper in the social work office.
我在哈珀的大部分时间都在社会工作办公室度过。
Crystal has a caseload of 55 kids, each of whom struggles with a learning disability or some kind of emotional issue.
Crystal 有 55 个孩子,每个孩子都在与学习障碍或某种情感问题作斗争。
Another part-time social worker and a school psychologist also have a caseload of kids.
另一位兼职社会工作者和一位学校心理学家也有大量的孩子。
But they make strong personal connections with lots of Harper students, not just those they're assigned to.
但他们与许多哈珀学院的学生建立了牢固的个人联系,而不仅仅是那些被分配到的学生。
And more often than not, because of some violent incident.
而且往往是因为一些暴力事件。
Harper, of course, has just come off this horribly violent year.
当然,哈珀刚刚度过了这可怕的暴力一年。
And I guess the question I had, and honestly, the question that the social workers ask themselves is, can they make a difference?
我想我的问题,老实说,社会工作者问自己的问题是,他们能有所作为吗?
Hello!
你好!
How are you?
你好吗?
[INAUDIBLE].
[听不清]。
Hi, Shari!
嗨,莎丽!
Crystal is in the halls for every passing period with a constant patter of positivity.
水晶在每一个过去的时期都在大厅里,充满着积极的气息。
I'm so proud of you.
我为你感到骄傲。
I see you trying hard.
我看到你很努力。
Keep it up, OK?
坚持下去,好吗?
I'm so proud of you!
我为你感到骄傲!
Go, go, go!
去!去!去!
So you won't be late.
这样你就不会迟到了。
Go, go, go!
去!去!去!
Y'all moving around, right?
你们都在四处走动,对吗?
Yeah.
是的。
Crystal Smith Thank you so much.
克里斯托·史密斯非常感谢你。
Let me appreciate you in advance.
让我提前感谢你。
I appreciate you in advance, a phrase I've never heard anyone use before, is one of Crystal's trademarks.
我预先感谢你,这是我以前从未听过任何人使用过的短语,是 Crystal 的商标之一。
Do you have your headphones in while you're talking to me?
你和我说话的时候戴着耳机吗?
I'm not-- it's low.
我不是——很低。
Crystal Smith Is it off?
水晶史密斯 关了吗?
Could you take them out so I won't feel like I'm being disrespected?
你能把它们拿出来,这样我就不会觉得自己受到了不尊重吗?
I'm not.
我不是。
Crystal Smith Thank you so much.
克里斯托·史密斯非常感谢你。
It ain't nothing playing.
没什么玩的了
Crystal Smith I appreciate you in advance.
克里斯托·史密斯 我先谢谢你了。
Terrell, how was your summer?
特雷尔,你的夏天过得怎么样?
Yeah.
是的。
Crystal Smith That's great.
克里斯托·史密斯 太棒了。
You're the only person that said that to me.
你是唯一对我这么说的人。
That means something to me.
这对我来说意味着一些东西。
I'm glad it was safe.
我很高兴它很安全。
Good morning, gentlemen.
早上好,先生们。
Good morning.
早上好。
Even when a kid characterizes his summer not as fun or relaxing, but as safe, Crystal sees the bright side.
即使一个孩子认为他的夏天不是有趣或放松,而是安全,克里斯托也看到了光明的一面。
I've seen her practically tackle students to tell them, you're a valuable person.
我见过她实际对付学生,告诉他们,你是一个有价值的人。
You matter.
你很重要。
When she's doling out advice, some of the kids laughingly call it Mom Patrol.
当她提供建议时,一些孩子笑着称其为“妈妈巡逻队”。
Sometimes, though, I wonder if the kids see past her perkiness.
但有时候,我想知道孩子们是否看穿了她的活泼。
Because she's really a force.
因为她确实是一个有力量的人。
I thank you for being to class on time.
我感谢你准时来上课。
Thank you!
谢谢你!
I love you!
我爱你!
[INTERPOSING VOICES] Student I'm up out of here.
[插话] 学生,我要离开这里了。
I'm fixing to go to class.
我正准备去上课。
It's six weeks later, late September, and the social work office is packed.
六周后,九月底,社会工作办公室挤满了人。
All times of day, kids pile into the social work office, a crowded, windowless room stuffed with three desks, a filing cabinet, and a paper shredder.
一天中的任何时候,孩子们都涌入社会工作办公室,这是一个拥挤、没有窗户的房间,里面塞满了三张桌子、一个文件柜和一台碎纸机。
So many kids that at times you have to jostle for a place to stand.
孩子太多了,有时你不得不争先恐后地寻找站立的地方。
Some of the kids come because their educational plans mandate social work visits.
有些孩子来这里是因为他们的教育计划要求进行社会工作访问。
And others come just because they like talking with Crystal and Anita Stewart, the school's other social worker.
还有一些人来只是因为他们喜欢与克里斯托和学校的另一位社会工作者安妮塔·斯图尔特交谈。
Devonte is often in the office.
德文特经常在办公室。
Before the incident last February where Devonte accidentally shot his 14-year-old brother, he didn't have much of a relationship with Crystal or Anita.
在去年 2 月德文特意外枪杀他 14 岁弟弟的事件发生之前,他与克里斯托或安妮塔并没有太多关系。
But now, they're really getting close.
但现在,他们真的已经很接近了。
Earlier in the year, Devonte had told them he wasn't sleeping well.
今年早些时候,德文特告诉他们他睡得不好。
And today, Anita and Crystal want to talk about it.
今天,安妮塔和克里斯托想谈谈这个问题。
So what about sleeping and all of that, Devonte?
那么,睡觉之类的事情呢,德文特?
Are you sleeping OK?
你睡得好吗?
Yeah.
是的。
Crystal Smith What you do at night to help you though?
克里斯托·史密斯 (Crystal Smith) 晚上你会做什么来帮助你呢?
Oh, you still taking Nyquil?
哦,你还在服用奈奎尔吗?
Devonte Man, I take it on a regular base.
Devonte Man,我经常接受它。
'Cause I need to go to sleep, man.
因为我需要去睡觉,伙计。
So we need to talk about-- Devonte I need to sleep tight.
所以我们需要谈谈——德文特,我需要睡个好觉。
What happens if you don't take the Nyquil?
如果不服用奈奎尔会怎样?
[TELEPHONE RINGING] Devonte I don't go to sleep.
[电话铃声] Devonte 我不睡觉。
Can I ask you a question?
我可以问你一个问题吗?
What are the thoughts that you have when you get ready to go to sleep?
当你准备睡觉时你有什么想法?
None.
没有任何。
Crystal Smith You having some kind thoughts that you're trying to escape.
克里斯托·史密斯(Crystal Smith):你有一些善意的想法,但你正试图逃避。
So that that way--
这样一来——
What?
什么?
One thought that you be thinking about?
一想到你在想什么?
One, my brother.
一,我的兄弟。
I be thinking about a lot of stuff.
我正在思考很多事情。
He's thinking about his brother.
他在想他的兄弟。
Devonte tells Crystal and Anita that he looks at pictures of Damion, his brother, every night before going to bed.
德文特告诉克里斯托和安妮塔,他每天晚上睡觉前都会看他哥哥达米恩的照片。
He shows them the pictures on his phone.
他给他们看了手机上的照片。
One is a school portrait.
其中一张是学校肖像。
Another is of Damion in his casket, dressed in a blue suit and a crisp white shirt.
另一幅是达米恩在棺材里,穿着蓝色西装和清爽的白衬衫。
He look like me in this casket, like I'm asleep.
他看起来就像棺材里的我,就像我睡着了一样。
You saw it in her phone?
你在她手机里看到了?
Crystal Smith 'Cause she showed it to me.
克里斯托·史密斯 因为她向我展示了它。
Remember, we had the meeting?
还记得我们开过会吗?
Devonte, do you feel like your family is supporting you with this?
Devonte,你觉得你的家人支持你这样做吗?
With what?
用什么?
Anita Stewart What happened to your brother?
安妮塔·斯图尔特 你哥哥怎么了?
Nah, don't nobody talk about it.
不,不要有人谈论它。
Don't nobody talk or nothing.
不要让任何人说话或什么都不做。
Don't nobody say nothing.
Don't nobody say nothing.
Just everybody just go around like it just didn't happen?
大家都装作没发生过一样吗?
Mhm.
嗯。
Anita Stewart Because you know it happened, because you look at the picture every night.
安妮塔·斯图尔特 因为你知道它发生了,因为你每天晚上都会看这张照片。
Yeah.
是的。
Alex Kotlowitz Devonte also has a video of his brother.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨·德文特 (Alex Kotlowitz Devonte) 也有他哥哥的视频。
He huddles with Crystal and Anita, watching it on his phone.
他与克里斯托和安妮塔挤在一起,用手机观看。
It's of three boys, clearly high, hanging out in a kitchen, cracking jokes and laughing.
这是三个男孩,显然很高,在厨房里闲逛,讲笑话,大笑。
Damion's off to one side, sitting on the floor.
达米安坐在一侧的地板上。
[INAUDIBLE].
[听不清]。
I'm talking about you.
我正在谈论你。
[INAUDIBLE].
[听不清]。
Alex Kotlowitz Crystal and Anita are hoping to start a trauma group with Devonte and three other boys at Harper, who are also struggling because of the violence.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨·克里斯托(Alex Kotlowitz Crystal)和安妮塔(Anita)希望与德文特(Devonte)和哈珀学院的其他三个男孩一起成立一个创伤小组,他们也因暴力而苦苦挣扎。
Devonte's noncommittal.
德文特不置可否。
Crystal seems almost desperate to get Devonte to see the importance of talking about his experience.
克里斯托似乎不顾一切地想让德文特认识到谈论他的经历的重要性。
Can I just tell you-- can I say that again?
我可以告诉你吗——我可以再说一遍吗?
At some point, though, because you are a junior, and we only got one more year, we going to have to start being able to talk about that, so that that way, we can start helping you get through the process of that.
不过,在某些时候,因为你是大三学生,而我们只有一年的时间,我们必须开始谈论这个问题,这样我们就可以开始帮助你完成这个过程。
It's something [INAUDIBLE].
这是[听不清]的东西。
Crystal Smith You going to have to feel safe somewhere to talk about it.
克里斯托·史密斯(Crystal Smith):你必须找个安全的地方来谈论这件事。
I feel safe wherever I'm at.
无论我身在何处,我都感到安全。
Alex Kotlowitz I feel safe wherever I'm at, he says.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨 (Alex Kotlowitz) 说,无论我身在何处,我都感到安全。
I'm talking about the stuff with your brother.
我正在和你哥哥谈论那些事情。
I'm talking about the stuff that make you take the Nyquil at night, that you not talking to nobody about.
我说的是那些让你在晚上服用奈奎尔的东西,但你不能和任何人谈论。
That's the weight that you have to-- do you know what it's like to carry weight?
这就是你必须承担的重量——你知道负重是什么感觉吗?
No, no, for real.
不,不,真的。
Don't nobody know every day you feel like this.
没有人知道你每天都有这样的感觉。
And it's just, like, can't nobody see it.
只是,就像,没有人能看到它。
But then, I can't-- you know what I'm saying?
但是,我不能——你知道我在说什么吗?
I see it, and I know it.
我看到了,我也知道了。
But then, I don't know if you ready-- you see what I'm saying--
但是,我不知道你是否准备好——你明白我在说什么——
--to help get some of it off.
——帮助摆脱其中的一些。
I understand-- I'm saying I'm with you on what the weight feels like.
我理解——我是说我同意你关于体重的感觉。
Ms. Grant, first, I just want to check with you and just see how you doing.
格兰特女士,首先,我想与您核实一下,看看您的表现如何。
I'm fine.
我很好。
I'm all right.
我没事。
Crystal Smith Doing all right?
克里斯托·史密斯 还好吗?
One day after school in the last week of September, it's report card day at Harper.
九月最后一周放学后的一天,是哈珀的成绩单日。
And Devonte's mom, Ms. Grant, is the first parent in the building.
德文特的妈妈格兰特女士是这栋楼里的第一位家长。
Crystal makes a point of seeking her out and asks if they can sit and talk at a table in the cafeteria.
克里斯托特意去找她,并询问他们是否可以坐在自助餐厅的桌子旁聊天。
Anita joins them.
安妮塔加入了他们。
Devonte is actually doing reasonably well.
德文特实际上做得相当不错。
He's getting B's and C's in all of his classes, except for music, which he's failing.
他在所有课程中都取得了 B 和 C 的成绩,除了音乐,他没有通过。
These are his best grades since he began high school.
这是他上高中以来的最好成绩。
I want to tell you just how first, impressed I am with Devonte's academic and social, emotional growth, like, since the accident happened.
我想告诉你,自从事故发生以来,德文特的学术、社交、情感成长给我留下了深刻的印象。
He came a long way.
他走了很长的路。
Crystal Smith He has a really, really, Mother, come a long way.
克里斯托·史密斯(Crystal Smith) 他有一位非常非常非常出色的母亲,她走了很长一段路。
Like, he is so much more open with me now.
就像,他现在对我更加开放了。
And I just want you to know what we're going to continue to work on, which is the guilt that he feels about the accident.
And I just want you to know what we're going to continue to work on, which is the guilt that he feels about the accident.
Mhm.
嗯。
Alex Kotlowitz On the night of the shooting, Ms. Grant was sitting in her car outside of her building.
Alex Kotlowitz On the night of the shooting, Ms. Grant was sitting in her car outside of her building.
Devonte was with Damion in the third floor apartment, their sister in another room.
德文特和达米恩住在三楼公寓,他们的妹妹住在另一个房间。
After the gun went off, Devonte sprinted downstairs to his mom, yelling, Mama, call an ambulance.
枪响后,德文特冲下楼去找他妈妈,大喊,妈妈,叫救护车。
I accidentally shot Damion.
我不小心射杀了达米恩。
Ms. Grant says she ran upstairs and saw Damion on the floor, no blood, just not moving.
格兰特女士说,她跑上楼,看到达米恩躺在地板上,没有血,只是一动不动。
Ms. Grant says the police held her in the apartment while the ambulance took Damion to the hospital.
Ms. Grant says the police held her in the apartment while the ambulance took Damion to the hospital.
He died before she arrived.
在她到达之前他就死了。
Ms. Grant was only able to spend a little bit of time with Damion's body before she was told she was needed at the police station.
Ms. Grant was only able to spend a little bit of time with Damion's body before she was told she was needed at the police station.
Since Devonte was a minor, his mom had to be present for his questioning.
Since Devonte was a minor, his mom had to be present for his questioning.
I had met privately with Ms. Grant a week or so before the report card meeting with Crystal.
I had met privately with Ms. Grant a week or so before the report card meeting with Crystal.
She told me that an autopsy report concluded that Damion had been shot in the chest.
She told me that an autopsy report concluded that Damion had been shot in the chest.
In our interview then, as in the meeting with Crystal, Ms. Grant seemed to vacillate between being certain the shooting was a complete accident, and then being not so certain.
在我们当时的采访中,就像在与克里斯托的会面中一样,格兰特女士似乎在确定枪击事件完全是意外和又不太确定之间犹豫不决。
I can't turn my back on Devonte because Devonte my child, too.
I can't turn my back on Devonte because Devonte my child, too.
Being angry at him is not going to bring Damion back.
Being angry at him is not going to bring Damion back.
Right.
正确的。
Ms. Grant You know, I feel-- I know that they wouldn't hurt each other like that.
Ms. Grant You know, I feel-- I know that they wouldn't hurt each other like that.
That's one thing I do know.
这是我确实知道的一件事。
Even though, you know, even-- you still don't know what happened.
Even though, you know, even-- you still don't know what happened.
Even though I really, really, truly don't know what happened.
Even though I really, really, truly don't know what happened.
You know, the autopsy report say it's one thing, and my heart say I don't know.
You know, the autopsy report say it's one thing, and my heart say I don't know.
Ms. Grant tells Crystal she knows she's hurt Devonte's feelings since Damion's death, and she feels bad about it.
Ms. Grant tells Crystal she knows she's hurt Devonte's feelings since Damion's death, and she feels bad about it.
She says the night of the funeral, the adults went to a bar.
她说,葬礼当晚,大人们去了一家酒吧。
When she got back to the apartment, Devonte overheard her saying, I believe Devonte shot my baby.
当她回到公寓时,德文特无意中听到她说,我相信德文特射杀了我的孩子。
She didn't know he was listening.
她不知道他在听。
He got up and he slammed the door.
他站起来,砰地关上了门。
He text me, I'm going to be with my brother.
他给我发短信说我要去和我哥哥在一起。
Forget all of y'all.
忘记你们所有人。
I ain't do nothing to my brother to hurt my brother.
I ain't do nothing to my brother to hurt my brother.
And I felt so bad 'cause I-- he had-- it was about 3:00 in the morning.
And I felt so bad 'cause I-- he had-- it was about 3:00 in the morning.
And he left.
然后他就离开了。
I ain't do nothing to my brother.
我不会对我弟弟做任何事。
I'm going where my brother is.
我要去我哥哥所在的地方。
You know, he kind of scared me.
你知道,他有点吓到我了。
Then I text him back, go on ahead.
然后我给他回短信,继续。
You grown anyway.
无论如何你都成长了。
So?
所以?
Go on ahead.
继续前进。
You know, I text him back that.
你知道,我给他回了短信。
But he was mad.
但他很生气。
He was mad at me for that.
他为此生我的气。
Y'all thinking I hurt Damion.
你们都以为我伤害了达米恩。
What makes y'all think I hurt my brother?
是什么让你们认为我伤害了我的兄弟?
I'm going to state the obvious, but life at home for Devonte has got to be really, really hard.
我想说的是显而易见的事情,但德文特的家里生活确实非常非常艰难。
Ms. Grant, who works part-time in food service at a local Naval base, says that many days she cries alone in her room.
格兰特女士在当地海军基地的餐饮服务部门兼职,她说很多天她都独自在房间里哭泣。
She says Devonte's older sister, who lives with the family, won't talk to Devonte anymore.
她说德文特的姐姐和家人住在一起,不会再和德文特说话了。
At one point, Ms. Grant told Crystal, the house was like hell.
格兰特女士告诉克里斯特尔,房子一度就像地狱一样。
Devonte has basically two places to escape to-- the streets or school.
德文特基本上有两个地方可以逃避——街道或学校。
And on the streets, Devonte made clear to Crystal and to me, it's hard to relax, to let your guard down.
在街上,德文特向克里斯托和我明确表示,很难放松,放松警惕。
He hangs with a lot of older guys, he says.
他说,他和很多年长的人在一起。
And just a few weeks before this, a friend was shot right in front of him.
就在几周前,一位朋友在他面前被枪杀。
So that really leaves just school-- more specifically, this office-- as a place where he can be himself and try to move on.
因此,这确实让学校——更具体地说,是这个办公室——成为了他可以做自己并尝试继续前进的地方。
Alex Kotlowitz.
亚历克斯·科特洛维茨。
We'll return to Devonte next week, when our story on Harper continues for a second hour.
下周我们将回到德文特,届时我们关于哈珀的故事将继续第二个小时。
A lot happens to Devonte as the year unfolds.
随着这一年的展开,德文特发生了很多事情。
Coming up in today's show, homecoming, and a game that is even bigger than homecoming.
在今天的节目中,返校节即将到来,这是一场比返校节更重要的比赛。
That's in a minute.
就在一分钟之内。
Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International, when our program continues.
芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台,当我们的节目继续进行时。
This American Life with Ira Glass.
与艾拉·格拉斯的美国生活。
This is the first of two hours that we are bringing you from Harper High School in Chicago, where we had three reporters this school year.
这是我们从芝加哥哈珀高中为您带来的两个小时中的第一个小时,本学年我们在那里有三名记者。
Last year, Harper had eight students murdered and 21 others wounded by gun violence.
去年,哈珀因枪支暴力导致 8 名学生被谋杀,另有 21 人受伤。
These were current and recent students.
这些是在校学生和最近的学生。
We include recent students in these numbers, because as you'll see, the kids who drop out or transfer away are still connected to the kids who go to Harper.
我们将最近的学生纳入这些数字中,因为正如您所看到的,退学或转学的孩子仍然与去哈珀的孩子有联系。
So when they are shot or something happens to them, it can have a huge impact on the school.
因此,当他们被枪杀或发生什么事时,会对学校产生巨大的影响。
We've arrived at Act Three of our program.
我们已经到了节目的第三幕了。
Act Three, Game Plan.
第三幕,游戏计划。
So we pick up our story right now at the beginning of October, homecoming week.
所以我们现在就在十月初返校周继续我们的故事。
The football team is something that is going very, very right at Harper High School.
哈珀高中的橄榄球队进展非常非常顺利。
They are 5 and 0 at this point in the year.
今年的这个时候,他们分别是 5 岁和 0 岁。
Though, of course, this still is Harper.
当然,这仍然是哈珀。
What happens in the neighborhood still affects the team.
附近发生的事情仍然影响着球队。
When we started reporting here in the school we expected to find some football players who had been touched by gun violence.
当我们开始在学校报道时,我们希望能找到一些受到枪支暴力影响的足球运动员。
We really did not anticipate answers like this next one that Linda got.
我们真的没有预料到琳达会得到这样的下一个答案。
Who do you know in football who has been either shot or shot at?
你认识的足球界有谁曾被枪击或被枪击过吗?
Probably the whole team except freshmen and sophomore.
可能是除了大一和大二之外的整个团队。
Yeah, I think everybody was shot at since my four years being there.
是的,我想自从我在那里呆了四年以来,每个人都被枪击过。
Yeah, everybody on the team.
是的,团队里的每个人。
That's number 11, junior Rodney Jackson, and number 4, Antoryio Barton.
这是11号,大三学生罗德尼·杰克逊,和4号,安托里奥·巴顿。
A player named Sandillio Wright was shot at one day and then played a game the next day.
一位名叫桑迪利奥·赖特的球员有一天被枪杀,第二天又参加了一场比赛。
Harper's quarterback Kwame Ware was actually hit a few years back, shot in the leg.
哈珀的四分卫夸梅·韦尔几年前实际上被击中,腿部中弹。
One of this year's recruits had a bullet go in the front of his leg and come out the back.
今年的一名新兵的腿前部中弹,然后从后部射出。
He's slower now, he says.
他说,他现在速度变慢了。
But he can still cut.
但他仍然可以砍。
About half the kids on the team are affiliated with one gang.
团队中大约一半的孩子隶属于一个帮派。
There are five or six other gangs represented on the team, some of them opposition.
该团队还有其他五六个帮派,其中一些是反对派。
But football actually seems to be the one place at Harper where everybody truly puts those rivalries aside.
但实际上,足球似乎是哈珀的一个地方,每个人都真正把这些竞争放在一边。
Ben Calhoun was at Harper for homecoming week.
本·卡尔霍恩 (Ben Calhoun) 在哈珀学院度过返校周。
At this point in the school year, Harper had been pretty violence free.
在学年的这个时候,哈珀几乎没有暴力行为。
There had been some fights, some big ones.
There had been some fights, some big ones.
But week after week was going by without a shooting.
但一周又一周过去了,没有发生枪击事件。
This was something that people, especially staff, they talked about it in this careful way, like they didn't want to jinx it.
人们,尤其是工作人员,以一种小心翼翼的方式谈论这件事,就像他们不想给它带来厄运一样。
The big events of homecoming week, the dance and the game, were on Friday.
返校节周的大型活动——舞会和游戏——在周五举行。
Thursday afternoon, every student's in the school's bleachers for a pep rally-- cheerleaders, DJ in the front, playing songs that the students dance to, and the staff occasionally feels uncomfortable to.
星期四下午,每个学生都在学校的露天看台上参加一场鼓舞士气的集会——拉拉队、DJ 在前面,播放着学生们跳舞的歌曲,工作人员有时会感到不舒服。
(RAPPING) Now let me see that booty work, booty work, booty boo boo booty work.
(说唱)现在让我看看战利品工作,战利品工作,战利品嘘嘘战利品工作。
Booty work.
战利品工作。
This season, Harper's not just undefeated.
本赛季,哈珀不仅保持不败。
They've been demolishing other schools-- scores like 46 to 0, 47 to 0.
他们一直在拆除其他学校——比分是 46 比 0、47 比 0。
They're good, really good.
他们很好,真的很好。
All right!
好的!
All right!
好的!
Ben Calhoun Last year, Harper went to the Chicago Public school championship, a real feat for a school that's so tiny.
本·卡尔霍恩 去年,哈珀参加了芝加哥公立学校锦标赛,这对于一所规模如此之小的学校来说是一项真正的壮举。
They were up against a Chicago sports Goliath, Simeon High School, a school known for producing professional athletes.
他们面对的是芝加哥体育界的巨人西蒙高中,这是一所以培养职业运动员而闻名的学校。
The day of the championship, Simeon had four times as many players suited up for the game.
冠军赛当天,西蒙有四倍的球员准备参加比赛。
Harper's roster is so small just about everybody has to play both offense and defense.
哈珀的阵容太小了,几乎每个人都必须同时进攻和防守。
Harper lost that game.
哈珀输掉了那场比赛。
But they came so close, people are psyched for a second chance.
但他们已经如此接近了,人们渴望第二次机会。
And we know the football team tomorrow is going to whoop a little butt on Marshall's!
我们知道明天的橄榄球队将会对马歇尔队大喊大叫!
[CHEERING] Ben Calhoun The team runs in one player at a time, and eventually, they get to a senior, a popular kid named Damoni Ware, who goes by the nickname, "Money."
[欢呼] Ben Calhoun 球队一次只引进一名球员,最终,他们迎来了一名高年级球员,一个名叫达莫尼·韦尔(Damoni Ware)的受欢迎的孩子,他的绰号是“金钱”。
And Damoni runs out, like everybody else, like a high school kid on a good day.
达莫尼像其他人一样,像高中生一样在美好的一天里跑步。
Then just a couple of minutes later, Money's walking out to the front again.
几分钟后,莫尼又走到了前面。
This time, it's because he's one of four candidates for Homecoming King.
这次,是因为他是归城王的四位候选人之一。
Josh was walking up that way.
Josh was walking up that way.
I mean, he was a contestant for Homecoming King.
I mean, he was a contestant for Homecoming King.
And when I was walking up there, they call his name right after mine.
当我走到那里时,他们就用我的名字叫他的名字。
And he told me what happened, like, he was nice to me.
他告诉我发生了什么事,就像他对我很好一样。
He said it out loud.
他大声说出来。
He wasn't trying to whisper it or nothing.
He wasn't trying to whisper it or nothing.
He just said it in his regular tone of voice.
他只是用平常的语气说了这句话。
He said, Little James just got shot.
He said, Little James just got shot.
Money told us about this later.
Money 后来告诉我们这件事。
About how, at the rally, as he stood there with his friend, Josh, Josh was on the phone relaying news about another friend of theirs named James Williams.
关于在集会上,当他和他的朋友乔什站在一起时,乔什如何在电话里转达他们另一位名叫詹姆斯·威廉姆斯的朋友的消息。
James had been shot just a few blocks from Harper, meaning probably about the time Money was running under the cheerleaders pompoms, someone was shooting at his friend.
詹姆斯在距离哈珀只有几个街区的地方被枪杀,这意味着大概当莫尼在拉拉队的绒球下奔跑时,有人向他的朋友开枪。
Money actually lives across the street from James.
钱实际上就住在詹姆斯的街对面。
Standing next to his house, Money can point to James's front door.
站在他家旁边,马尼可以指着詹姆斯的前门。
And this one right there, you see the house with its lights on?
就在那里,你看到那间房子还亮着灯吗?
And then it's this-- it's this house next to it.
And then it's this-- it's this house next to it.
And they live in that house right there with the big brown porch.
他们住在那栋有棕色大门廊的房子里。
Yeah, he live in that house.
Yeah, he live in that house.
His name Little James.
他的名字叫小詹姆斯。
James Williams, the kid with the big brown porch, the kid who'd been shot during the pep rally, he used to go to Harper.
詹姆斯·威廉姆斯,那个有棕色大门廊的孩子,那个在动员大会上被枪杀的孩子,他曾经去过哈珀。
But he hadn't been there this year.
But he hadn't been there this year.
Back on the day of the pep rally, minutes after the shooting, the first details coming in were hazy-- just that James had been taken to the hospital, and so far he was still alive.
回到动员集会当天,枪击事件发生几分钟后,收到的第一个细节还很模糊——只是詹姆斯已被送往医院,而且到目前为止他还活着。
There was already speculation about who was involved and about possible retaliation by Sixth Ward, the gang that controls the block where James and Money live.
已经有人猜测谁参与其中,以及控制詹姆斯和莫尼居住街区的第六区可能进行报复。
Money remembers that, as he left the pep rally, and he went to the last practice on Thursday, before the big game on Friday, he wasn't thinking about the game anymore or homecoming.
莫尼记得,当他离开动员集会并参加周四、周五重大比赛之前的最后一次训练时,他不再考虑比赛或回家。
He was thinking about his friend.
他在想他的朋友。
I didn't know-- I didn't know if he was OK or not.
我不知道——我不知道他是否还好。
So that had me, like, kind of messing up in practice.
所以这让我在实践中有点混乱。
Yeah.
是的。
That threw off my whole day of practice.
这让我一整天的练习都打乱了。
Like, I was-- I wasn't really running.
就像,我——我并没有真正跑步。
I was, like, tip toeing.
我就像是踮起脚尖。
Wasn't really trying to make a tackle, trying to make a play.
并不是真的想铲球,而是想打球。
So I was trying to worry about was he OK.
所以我试着担心他还好吗。
We don't know yet.
我们还不知道。
He was up at the gas station on 67th and Damen, and we just got word that, you know, a former student was shot.
他在 67 街和达门的加油站,我们刚刚得到消息,你知道,一名以前的学生被枪杀了。
So right now, he's in critical condition.
所以现在他的情况危急。
After school on Thursday, while the football team's practicing, word's spreading about the shooting.
周四放学后,橄榄球队正在训练,有关枪击事件的消息正在传开。
Principal Sanders is trying to gather information.
桑德斯校长正在努力收集信息。
And when I find her, she's in the parking lot trying to figure out the school's response.
当我找到她时,她正在停车场试图了解学校的回应。
And another thing that didn't look good-- three different gangs that came out the door, and they just kind of took off running.
还有一件事看起来不太好——三个不同的帮派从门里出来,他们就开始逃跑了。
You mean when they just came out of school here?
你是说他们刚从学校出来的时候?
So they came out, went to the parking lot, and they just took off-- three different groups.
所以他们出来了,去了停车场,然后他们就起飞了——三个不同的组。
For what, we don't know.
为了什么,我们不知道。
So that's another indication that something's going on.
这是另一个迹象表明事情正在发生。
Sanders' concern is fallout from all this.
桑德斯担心的是这一切的后果。
The homecoming game and the dance are scheduled for the next day.
返校节比赛和舞会定于第二天举行。
They'll big school events, events where kids from other schools will be, events where security is a challenge.
他们将举办大型学校活动、其他学校的孩子参加的活动以及安全面临挑战的活动。
Sanders was worried that James Williams was just the beginning.
桑德斯担心詹姆斯·威廉姆斯只是一个开始。
Definitely-- we have a dance tomorrow.
当然——我们明天有舞会。
So that's going to have a major effect, especially when they find out exactly who the shooter was.
所以这将会产生重大影响,特别是当他们查明枪手是谁时。
Yeah, that might have a grave impact on whether or not we even have a dance.
是的,这可能会对我们是否跳舞产生严重影响。
Harper staff doesn't just struggle to protect their students from the violence in the neighborhood.
哈珀学院的工作人员不仅努力保护学生免受附近暴力的侵害。
They also try to protect what they see as a student's just normal high school experience, things like Homecoming and clubs and prom.
他们还试图保护他们认为学生正常的高中经历,比如返校节、俱乐部和舞会。
Sanders said it was for these reasons that the idea of canceling the dance-- it really bothered her.
桑德斯表示,正是由于这些原因,取消舞会的想法确实让她感到困扰。
But she also knew she might have to.
但她也知道她可能不得不这样做。
Good morning, Harper staff members.
早上好,哈珀的工作人员。
At this time, I need all the members for the AAR to report to the Mellon room.
这个时候,我需要AAR的所有成员到Mellon会议室报到。
Once again, all members for the AAR, please report to the Mellon room at this time.
再次,AAR 的所有成员请此时到梅隆会议室报到。
Ben Calhoun And do students know what that is when they hear it?
本·卡尔霍恩 学生们听到这个词时知道那是什么吗?
Friday morning, the day after the shooting, the day of the homecoming game and dance-- this meeting that Sanders is paging people to is an AAR, short for After Action Review, the school's main meeting to figure out how to handle James Williams' shooting.
星期五早上,枪击事件发生后的第二天,也就是返校节比赛和舞会的那天——桑德斯正在召集人们参加的这次会议是 AAR,是“行动后审查”的缩写,是学校的主要会议,旨在弄清楚如何处理詹姆斯·威廉姆斯的枪击事件。
The name AAR actually comes from the military.
AAR这个名字实际上来自于军队。
A couple of years ago, Chicago Public school officials were visiting at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas to research military training tools, tools they might use to prepare people working in the city's roughest schools.
几年前,芝加哥公立学校的官员访问了堪萨斯州的莱文沃斯堡,研究军事训练工具,这些工具可以用来帮助在该市最艰苦的学校工作的人们做好准备。
They came across the AAR, the Army's tool for analyzing events, for assessing damage, compiling information, and trying to figure out how to respond.
他们偶然发现了 AAR,这是陆军用于分析事件、评估损失、编译信息并试图找出应对方法的工具。
At most schools, this situation-- a former student shot, the threat of more possible shootings-- even schools that have plans for these sorts of crises rarely have to use them.
在大多数学校,这种情况——一名前学生被枪杀,可能发生更多枪击事件的威胁——即使是针对此类危机制定了计划的学校也很少需要使用它们。
And if they end up in a situation like this, they scramble through it.
如果他们最终陷入这样的境地,他们就会艰难地度过。
A district administrator told me, think about it.
一位地区管理员告诉我,考虑一下。
The natural response for a school after a shooting is to go into panic and to grieve, and then to hope that it never happens again.
枪击事件发生后,学校的自然反应是陷入恐慌和悲伤,然后希望这样的事情不再发生。
That's normal.
这很正常。
And so when the Chicago schools first brought the AAR in from Fort Leavenworth and suggested it to Harper, some people said it felt wrong, like they'd be planning for students to be shot.
因此,当芝加哥学校第一次从莱文沃斯堡引进 AAR 并向哈珀建议时,一些人说这感觉不对,就像他们正在计划枪杀学生一样。
But the staff at Harper knew it would be better to have procedures and a plan to contain the damage.
但哈珀的工作人员知道,最好制定程序和计划来控制损害。
That's the AAR.
这就是 AAR。
Marcel, Coach, any word on how James is doing?
马塞尔,教练,有关于詹姆斯表现如何的消息吗?
No. Leonetta Sanders OK.
不,莱昂内塔·桑德斯 好的。
Did he have surgery yesterday, or you don't know?
他昨天动手术了还是你不知道?
I don't know.
我不知道。
Ben Calhoun Harper's AAR meeting is held first thing the day after the shooting.
本·卡尔霍恩·哈珀 (Ben Calhoun Harper) 的 AAR 会议在枪击事件发生后的第二天首先召开。
One of the first parts of it is just whiteboarding the social and family relationships of the victim to see who could and would be affected and to consider how.
第一个部分就是在白板上记录受害者的社会和家庭关系,看看谁可能会受到影响,并考虑如何受到影响。
OK.
好的。
So we all know James was shot yesterday right when were getting out, member of Sixth Ward.
所以我们都知道詹姆斯昨天刚出去时就被枪杀了,他是第六区的成员。
So I had heard stories about his brother, Jaman, in the neighborhood.
所以我在附近听说过他的兄弟贾曼的故事。
Anybody got any word on how he's doing, or--
有人知道他的近况吗,或者——
The group includes all the deans of the school-- social workers, the football coach, guidance counselors, the psychologist, about two dozen people all together.
这个小组包括学校的所有院长——社会工作者、足球教练、辅导员、心理学家,总共大约有两打人。
And the conversation moves pretty fast.
而且谈话进展得很快。
They summarize the information they've been able to gather.
他们总结了他们能够收集到的信息。
They list kids with connections to the three gangs involved.
他们列出了与三个涉案团伙有联系的孩子。
So we already know, number one, that we need to pull all those guys.
所以我们已经知道,第一,我们需要拉动所有这些人。
Can we name them?
我们能说出他们的名字吗?
Ben Calhoun People rattle off names around the room, kids that'll be pulled out of class later.
本·卡尔霍恩 人们在房间里大声说出名字,这些孩子稍后会被带出课堂。
Any freshmen?
有新生吗?
Ben Calhoun The school just wants to ask them what's going on, what might happen, and to get them out of the building, especially at dismissal time, when things could get dangerous.
本·卡尔霍恩(Ben Calhoun) 学校只是想问他们发生了什么事,可能会发生什么,并让他们离开大楼,特别是在放学时间,那时事情可能会变得危险。
Money, the football player, James's friend from across the street, they want to ask him what's been happening on the block.
钱尼、足球运动员、詹姆斯街对面的朋友,他们想问他街区里发生了什么。
They talk about following what kids are saying online and who will do that.
他们讨论关注孩子们在网上说的话以及谁会这样做。
A faculty member named Marcel Smith says the students have realized that the school has been monitoring Facebook.
一位名叫马塞尔·史密斯 (Marcel Smith) 的教员表示,学生们已经意识到学校一直在监控 Facebook。
They've stopped posting stuff there.
他们已经停止在那里发布东西了。
And real quick, Principal Sanders, so since they know we on Facebook, everybody's tweeting.
桑德斯校长,快点,自从他们在 Facebook 上认识我们以来,每个人都在发推文。
So we ain't got no tweet account with them?
那么我们没有他们的推特帐户吗?
Who got a tweet account?
谁有推特帐户?
So they've done [INAUDIBLE] our game, now?
那么他们现在已经完成了[听不清]我们的游戏?
[INTERPOSING VOICES] Woman Yeah, they off it.
[插话] 女人 是的,他们关闭了。
They off of Facebook now?
他们现在不再使用 Facebook 了吗?
Ben Calhoun There's also the issue of James's brother.
本·卡尔霍恩 还有詹姆斯弟弟的问题。
James left Harper the year before, but his younger brother Jamon still attends.
詹姆斯于前一年离开哈珀,但他的弟弟贾蒙仍然出席。
He's not in school that day, but they talk about having someone check on him, and also having someone explain to the kids in each of his classes what happened.
那天他没有上学,但他们谈论要让人检查他,并让人向他每个班级的孩子们解释发生了什么。
They talk about the kids who took off running the night before.
他们谈论前一天晚上开始跑步的孩子们。
--running down the street.
——沿着街道奔跑。
Ben Calhoun Also on the table is the issue of homecoming.
本·卡尔霍恩 返校问题也摆在桌面上。
Sanders is visibly unsure.
桑德斯显然并不确定。
If I have not said this, I probably need to say this.
如果我没有说过这个,我可能需要说这个。
So I need as many people at this dance tonight as possible.
所以今晚我需要尽可能多的人参加这场舞会。
Sanders is married to a Chicago police officer.
桑德斯的丈夫是一名芝加哥警察。
And so are some other people on staff.
其他一些工作人员也是如此。
Since the previous day, she's been trying to round up off-duty police officers to volunteer as security at the dance.
从前一天开始,她就一直试图召集下班的警察自愿担任舞会的保安。
She's also asked Central Office for additional security.
她还要求中央办公室提供额外的安全保障。
But yeah, I need as many people tonight as possible.
但是,是的,今晚我需要尽可能多的人。
And when we have dances and things like this, no, I can't pay you.
当我们有舞会之类的事情时,不,我不能付钱给你。
But your presence is definitely needed.
但绝对需要你的存在。
Because we need people to watch inside so that nothing happens.
因为我们需要有人在里面监视,以免发生任何事情。
As well as-- and I usually have the security, the men, standing outside along with police.
还有——我通常会有保安、男人和警察一起站在外面。
As everyone leaves, Sanders tell someone on staff she's worried about security at the homecoming game itself.
当所有人离开时,桑德斯告诉工作人员,她担心返校节比赛本身的安全。
Because my issue is, if they believe the Breeds did that, half of my football team are Breeds.
因为我的问题是,如果他们相信布里德队做到了这一点,那么我的橄榄球队中有一半都是布里德队。
Mhm.
嗯。
[INAUDIBLE].
[听不清]。
Leonetta Sanders So you know what I'm saying?
Leonetta Sanders 那么你知道我在说什么吗?
It's not like they pat them down at the games.
这不像他们在比赛中对他们进行拍打。
I don't never see them patting nobody down at the game.
我从没见过他们在比赛中拍打任何人。
You know what I'm saying, I'm, like, so that's hard to-- I don't know.
你知道我在说什么,我就像,所以这很难——我不知道。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I don't know.
我不知道。
Just so it's clear, what Principal Sanders is saying is that half of her football players have ties to the gangs who are supposedly behind the shooting.
很明显,桑德斯校长所说的是,她的一半橄榄球运动员与据称是枪击事件幕后黑手的帮派有联系。
And obviously, that's worrisome.
显然,这令人担忧。
Because they might become targets, and they're at the center of every large school event she has planned in the next 24 hours.
因为他们可能成为目标,而且他们是她计划在未来 24 小时内举行的每一次大型学校活动的中心。
OK.
好的。
You want to talk to 'em or no?
你想不想跟他们说话?
Get over here and talk to Mama.
到这里来和妈妈说话。
All day long, Harper's staff implements the plan from the AAR meeting.
哈珀的工作人员整天都在执行 AAR 会议上的计划。
For Coach Antoine Reed and others, that means spending the day gathering information, pulling students out of class.
对于安托万·里德教练和其他人来说,这意味着花一天时间收集信息,让学生离开课堂。
It's an unusual situation-- sending kids home not because they've done anything wrong, but as a matter of prevention.
这是一种不寻常的情况——把孩子送回家并不是因为他们做错了什么,而是出于预防目的。
This student here still hadn't quite figured out that he wasn't in trouble.
这位学生还没有完全意识到自己没有遇到麻烦。
Until I say-- did I ever say you was in trouble?
直到我说——我有说过你遇到麻烦了吗?
If you are in trouble, who's the first person you think you're going to see?
如果你遇到麻烦,你认为你第一个要见的人是谁?
I don't care where you at.
我不在乎你在哪里。
I don't care if you on this roof and you get in trouble.
我不在乎你是否在这个屋顶上遇到麻烦。
The first person you're going to see is me.
你第一个见到的人就是我。
You wasn't in trouble.
你没有遇到麻烦。
We understand what's going on and that issue is not resolved yet.
我们了解正在发生的事情,但该问题尚未解决。
He's still in the hospital.
他还在医院里。
Everybody is still angry.
大家还是很生气。
And we are not taking any chances, you know what I'm saying?
我们不会冒险,你知道我在说什么吗?
So it's not that you in trouble.
所以这并不是你有麻烦。
It's that we're taking precautionary measures.
这是我们正在采取的预防措施。
We know how it's going to look today at the end of the day.
我们知道今天最终会是什么样子。
Let's not be naive.
我们别太天真了。
Me and you live around here.
我和你就住在这附近。
Yeah.
是的。
Ben Calhoun Throughout the day, Principal Sanders shores up the security plan for the game and also for the dance.
本·卡尔霍恩 (Ben Calhoun) 桑德斯校长一整天都在支持比赛和舞会的安全计划。
She's disappointed that more Harper staff don't agree to stay late to act as security.
她感到失望的是,更多的《哈珀》杂志员工不同意熬夜充当保安。
You're not going outside at the end of school today?
今天放学你不出去吗?
No, I'm going to go outside and get in my car and go home.
不,我要出去,开车回家。
This is social worker Anita Stewart.
我是社会工作者安妮塔·斯图尔特。
Anita tells me she won't be staying late.
安妮塔告诉我她不会熬夜。
Just like Coach Reed, she'd spent the day talking to kids about what happened, and she's scared.
就像里德教练一样,她花了一天时间与孩子们谈论发生的事情,她很害怕。
Anita doesn't want to let Harper down, but with a family and kids of her own, she decided she isn't up for it.
安妮塔不想让哈珀失望,但她有自己的家庭和孩子,她决定自己不会这么做。
I'm not going to, you know, go out and stand around.
你知道,我不会出去站着。
There's too much going on.
发生的事情太多了。
And I think I got fair warning from the kids to stay out of the neighborhood.
我想我从孩子们那里得到了合理的警告,要远离邻居。
And the kids are telling me stay out of the neighborhood.
孩子们告诉我不要靠近邻居。
And I'm going to ride with the kids and believe what they're telling me.
我会和孩子们一起骑行并相信他们告诉我的话。
This isn't typical for her.
这对她来说并不典型。
Anita spends a lot of time trying to intervene with kids so they don't end up shooting each other.
安妮塔花了很多时间试图干预孩子们,这样他们就不会互相开枪。
She's constantly going out into the neighborhood around Harper, after school and on weekends, talking kids down from fighting, going to rival cliques and mediating.
放学后和周末,她经常去哈珀周围的社区,劝说孩子们不要打架,加入敌对派系并进行调解。
Reminding everyone, this is stupid.
提醒大家,这是愚蠢的。
Stop it.
停止吧。
But today, Anita is struggling.
但今天,安妮塔正在挣扎。
She's sitting in her office, trying to deal with the reality that no matter how much she or anyone does, no matter how much they hope, inevitably, there will be more violence.
她坐在办公室里,试图面对这样一个现实:无论她或任何人做了多少努力,无论他们多么希望,不可避免地会出现更多的暴力。
The hardest thing is knowing that something is getting ready to happen, and you can't stop it.
最困难的事情是知道某件事即将发生,而你无法阻止它。
That hurts.
很痛。
And it's, like, because you don't know where it's going to happen.
就像,因为你不知道它会在哪里发生。
And you know that the strike is getting ready to come.
你知道罢工即将到来。
But you don't know where it's coming.
但你不知道它会从哪里来。
And it hurts.
而且很痛。
[CRYING] It hurts because they not-- the kids, they're not bad.
[哭泣]这很痛苦,因为他们——孩子们,他们并不坏。
So you know that something is getting ready to happen, because-- [SNIFFLING] the kids, they tell you, and it's, like, you can't stop it, because you don't know where it's going to happen.
所以你知道有些事情即将发生,因为——[抽鼻子]孩子们,他们告诉你,就像,你无法阻止它,因为你不知道它会在哪里发生。
And I'm trying to do what I can.
我正在尽我所能。
[SOBBING]
[抽泣]
Ben Calhoun Just before dismissal, just like Anita feared, there's news of more shooting.
本·卡尔霍恩 正如安妮塔担心的那样,就在解雇之前,传来了更多枪击事件的消息。
A parent and a student were on their way home, and someone fired shots.
一名家长和一名学生在回家的路上,有人开枪。
Nobody was hit, but it looks like it might have been retaliation.
没有人被击中,但看起来可能是报复。
And so the school has to decide what to do next-- cancel the homecoming game, cancel the dance, or risk it.
因此,学校必须决定下一步该做什么——取消返校节比赛、取消舞会,还是冒险。
Push back against the violence, and try to preserve a little bit of high school normalcy for the students.
抵制暴力,努力为学生们保留一点高中常态。
Every option they have seems like a bad option.
他们拥有的每一个选择似乎都是一个糟糕的选择。
And it's getting late in the day.
而且天已经很晚了。
They have to decide all of this, and they've got to decide soon.
他们必须决定这一切,而且必须尽快做出决定。
Ben Calhoun is one of the producers of our show.
本·卡尔霍恩是我们节目的制片人之一。
What Principal Sanders and the staff decide to do and how their plan works out, whether they contain the violence-- next week, Alex Kotlowitz, Linda Lutton, and Ben Calhoun will be back.
校长桑德斯和工作人员决定做什么,他们的计划如何实施,是否遏制暴力——下周,亚历克斯·科特洛维茨、琳达·卢顿和本·卡尔霍恩将回来。
They'll pick up our story where we're leaving it off today, with the second half of our story from Harper High School in Chicago.
他们将继续我们今天留下的故事,即芝加哥哈珀高中故事的后半部分。
I hope you join us.
我希望你加入我们。
I appreciate you in advance for that.
我提前感谢你。
Our program was produced today by our senior producer Julie Snyder, with Alex Blumberg, Ben Calhoun, Sarah Koenig, Miki Meek, Jonathan Menjivar, Lisa Pollak, Brian Reed, Robyn Semien, Alissa Shipp, and Nancy Updike.
我们的节目今天由我们的高级制片人 Julie Snyder 与 Alex Blumberg、Ben Calhoun、Sarah Koenig、Miki Meek、Jonathan Menjivar、Lisa Pollak、Brian Reed、Robyn Semien、Alissa Shipp 和 Nancy Updike 共同制作。
Production help from Phia Bennin.
菲亚·贝宁 (Phia Bennin) 提供制作帮助。
Seth Lind is our operations director.
塞思·林德 (Seth Lind) 是我们的运营总监。
Emily Condon's our production manager.
艾米丽·康登是我们的生产经理。
Elise Bergerson's our administrative assistant.
埃莉斯·伯格森是我们的行政助理。
Original scoring for today's program by the Late Bloomer.
今天节目的原始配乐由《大器晚成》提供。
Music help from Damian Graf and Rob Geddis.
达米安·格拉夫 (Damian Graf) 和罗布·格迪斯 (Rob Geddis) 提供音乐帮助。
Thanks today to [?
今天感谢[?
Coby ?] Williams, Jens Ludwig, Roseanna Ander, [?
科比?] 威廉姆斯、詹斯·路德维希、罗莎娜·安德、[?
Joe ?] Jennings, Michelle Harris, [?
乔?] 詹宁斯,米歇尔·哈里斯,[?
Rob ?] [INAUDIBLE], Julie Beer.
罗布?] [听不清],朱莉·比尔。
And special thanks to, of course, Harper principal Leonetta Sanders, head football coach Maris Carroll, social workers Crystal Smith and Anita Stewart, and the rest of the staff, students, and families at Harper High School for being so generous with their time.
当然,还要特别感谢哈珀高中校长利奥内塔·桑德斯、橄榄球主教练马里斯·卡罗尔、社会工作者克里斯托·史密斯和安妮塔·斯图尔特,以及哈珀高中的其他教职员工、学生和家庭,感谢他们慷慨地投入了时间。
Our website, ThisAmericanLife.org.
我们的网站 ThisAmericanLife.org。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
WBEZ management oversight for our program by our boss, Mr. Torey Malatia.
我们的老板 Torey Malatia 先生对我们的项目进行 WBEZ 管理监督。
I don't know, I keep forgetting to wear my belt to work.
我不知道,我上班总是忘记系皮带。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I don't see what the big deal is.
我不明白有什么大不了的。
He will not let it go.
他不会放过它。
We are not selling crack.
我们不卖快克。
Pull your pants up.
把你的裤子拉起来。
Nobody wants to see the crack of your butt, baby.
宝贝,没有人愿意看到你屁股的裂缝。
I'm Ira Glass, back next week with Part 2.
我是 Ira Glass,下周带着第二部分回来。
Be there for more stories of This American Life.
敬请关注《美国生活》的更多故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作,并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。