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Prologue Ira Glass Well, people of Earth, if I may call you that, you are probably unaware of the gathering last weekend in Orlando, Florida, that was attempting to address a problem that you also may be unaware of.
序言 Ira Glass 好吧，地球人，如果我可以这样称呼你们，你们可能不知道上周末在佛罗里达州奥兰多举行的聚会，这次聚会试图解决你们可能也没有意识到的问题。
I'm talking about the problem of interstellar space travel.
我说的是星际旅行的问题。
We sent a reporter.
我们派了一名记者。
This was the best assignment I've ever had.
这是我接受过的最好的任务。
You know, it's possible that Dan Grech says this to everybody who ever asks him to do a story, I have no idea.
你知道，丹·格雷奇有可能对每个要求他写故事的人都这么说，我不知道。
His usual job is running the news at WLRN, the public radio station in Miami.
他平时的工作是在迈阿密公共广播电台 WLRN 播报新闻。
He attended the Hundred Year Starship Conference for us.
他为我们出席了百年星舰大会。
This was basically a bunch of scientists and engineers, finance guys, tech geeks, science fiction writers, all imagining what it would take to build a starship, a spaceship that could get us to the nearest star.
这基本上是一群科学家和工程师、金融人员、技术极客、科幻小说作家，他们都在想象如何建造一艘星际飞船，一艘可以让我们到达最近恒星的宇宙飞船。
The nearest star to the sun is four light years away, and using the kind of rockets that we use now, it would take 10,000 years to get there.
距离太阳最近的恒星有四光年远，使用我们现在使用的火箭，需要一万年才能到达那里。
10,000 years.
一万年。
And what was so thrilling about this conference, Dan says, was that the people at this conference were thinking through the steps of exactly how you would develop and build a different kind of starship.
丹说，这次会议最令人兴奋的是，参加这次会议的人们正在思考如何开发和建造一种不同类型的星际飞船的具体步骤。
They believe it was the first conference of its kind.
他们认为这是第一次此类会议。
It was sponsored by NASA and by DARPA, which is the advanced research arm of the defense department, who are going to pay a half million dollars to whoever invents the most feasible time line and plan to get us to the stars.
它是由 NASA 和 DARPA 赞助的，DARPA 是国防部的高级研究部门，谁发明了最可行的时间表并计划让我们登上星星，他们将支付 50 万美元。
And at this conference, there were over two dozen seminars on the most basic question you face when you try to do that, how do you power a rocket that can carry you fast enough and far enough?
在这次会议上，有超过两打的研讨会，讨论你在尝试做到这一点时面临的最基本问题，即如何为火箭提供动力，让火箭能够带你足够快、足够远？
Some of the panels considered what they called exotic science, which is the stuff that you see in sci-fi movies-- warp drives, wormholes in space-- which, in reality, apparently, would just stretch your body into infinity or crush you into a tiny speck of dust.
一些小组讨论了他们所谓的奇异科学，也就是你在科幻电影中看到的东西——曲速引擎、太空中的虫洞——实际上，这些东西显然只会把你的身体拉伸到无限远，或者把你压成一粒尘埃。
But there was other stuff.
但还有其他事情。
Well, there's a whole class of far-out solutions that are actually real physics solutions, such as the ideal photon rocket, the anti-gravity engine, the antimatter rocket.
嗯，有一整类遥远的解决方案实际上是真正的物理解决方案，例如理想的光子火箭、反重力发动机、反物质火箭。
They don't go faster than the speed of light, but they do get a little bit closer.
它们的速度不会比光速快，但确实会更接近光速。
They don't go faster than the speed of light because nothing can go faster than the speed of light.
它们的速度不会超过光速，因为没有什么能比光速更快。
Well, that's what physics tells us.
嗯，这就是物理学告诉我们的。
I spoke to a Tufts physicist named Ken Olum, and I asked him what's possible.
我采访了一位塔夫茨大学的物理学家肯·奥勒姆（Ken Olum），我问他有什么可能。
Antimatter, fusion drive, this is real stuff.
反物质、聚变驱动，这些都是真实存在的东西。
It could be developed.
是可以开发的。
It's a small matter of engineering, as we like to say in science.
正如我们在科学中喜欢说的那样，这只是工程上的一个小问题。
In other words, it's a huge matter of engineering.
换句话说，这是一个巨大的工程问题。
You know, we're making antimatter now.
你知道，我们现在正在制造反物质。
All we need is a hundred billion times more than we're making now, and we can go to the stars, right?
我们所需要的只是比现在多一千亿倍，我们就可以去星星，对吗？
So then how real is that stuff?
那么这些东西到底有多真实呢？
Like what's the most promising scheme that these scientists say that we would use if we wanted to travel at, or maybe just a lot closer to, the speed of light?
就像这些科学家所说的，如果我们想以光速或者更接近光速旅行，我们会使用什么最有前途的方案？
Well, at least according to the people I spoke to, there was kind of consensus around this idea called the light sail.
嗯，至少根据我采访过的人的说法，围绕这个称为“光帆”的想法存在某种共识。
It's kind of like a sailboat in space, but instead of the sail being pushed by wind, it would be pushed by light.
它有点像太空中的帆船，但船帆不是由风推动，而是由光推动。
And that could be sunlight, a laser, microwaves.
这可能是阳光、激光、微波。
So one scheme for a light sail would be you would put this giant laser in orbit around the sun.
因此，光帆的一种方案是将这个巨大的激光器置于绕太阳运行的轨道上。
And, you know, when I mean giant, this laser would have huge solar panels, miles wide, and it would send this concentrated beam of light to hit the sail of a space ship.
而且，你知道，当我指的是巨型时，这种激光器将拥有巨大的太阳能电池板，数英里宽，它会发出集中的光束来击中太空飞船的帆。
The great thing about light sails is, besides the fact that they actually could work, they overcome one of the biggest limitations of rockets, which is that you have to carry around this huge volume of fuel, which is heavy, and it takes up a whole lot of room.
轻型帆的伟大之处在于，除了它们实际上可以工作之外，它们还克服了火箭的最大限制之一，那就是你必须携带大量的燃料，这些燃料很重，而且占用了很大的空间。
Cost of the light sail?
光帆的成本？
$10 trillion, which is 1/6 of all the money spent on our planet in one year.
10 万亿美元，相当于我们星球一年内花费的所有资金的 1/6。
And that's probably the cheapest interstellar spacecraft we could make.
这可能是我们能制造的最便宜的星际飞船。
And how much energy would it take to travel at a reasonable speed?
以合理的速度行驶需要多少能量？
Just to give you a sense of how hard it is to get to the speed of light, if you wanted to get to 3/4 of the speed of light-- and this was told to me by a Japanese physicist at the bar, working on the back of a napkin-- he said it would take 30,000 times all the power created by all of the power plants in the world in a year.
只是为了让你了解达到光速有多么困难，如果你想达到光速的 3/4——这是酒吧里一位日本物理学家在餐巾纸背面告诉我的——他说一年内需要世界上所有发电厂产生的总功率的 30,000 倍。
Just to go 3/4 the speed of light.
只是达到光速的 3/4。
What was most amazing about this conference, and you can read the agenda online, is how much of it was scientists thinking through all these utterly practical questions of traveling such immense distances on journeys that would probably take hundreds of years.
这次会议最令人惊奇的地方，你可以在网上阅读议程，是科学家们在思考所有这些非常实际的问题，即在可能需要数百年的旅程中进行如此遥远的距离。
Questions like, what kind of light bulb would you use that would never require replacements?
诸如此类的问题，您会使用哪种不需要更换的灯泡？
How to communicate with the Earth from so far away, which is a big problem if you're two light years away.
如何与地球相距如此遥远，如果距离两光年，这是一个大问题。
It would take a radio signal two years to make it to Earth, and then it would be another two years before you'd get a reply.
无线电信号需要两年才能到达地球，然后又需要两年才能收到回复。
And then there's the problem of space dust, which apparently is a big issue if you're traveling at, for example, a tenth of the speed of light.
然后还有太空尘埃的问题，如果你以光速的十分之一等速度旅行，这显然是一个大问题。
When you're traveling that fast, a little speck of space dust will slam into the hull of a ship like it's a missile.
当你以如此快的速度旅行时，一点点太空尘埃会像导弹一样撞击船体。
And so you need to create some kind of shield.
所以你需要创建某种盾牌。
And what's interesting is that it seems like we've solved this problem.
有趣的是，我们似乎已经解决了这个问题。
A NASA scientist named Geoffrey Landis has proposed an idea to create a plasma shield.
美国宇航局科学家杰弗里·兰迪斯提出了创建等离子屏蔽的想法。
It would be like a cloud of hydrogen in a magnetic field.
它就像磁场中的氢云。
You would create it, you would have it in front of your spaceship, and it would block the space dust from doing damage to the ship itself.
你可以创造它，把它放在你的宇宙飞船前面，它可以阻止太空尘埃对飞船本身造成损害。
So yeah, the plasma shield is something that is real technology, something we can make in the lab today.
所以，是的，等离子屏蔽是真正的技术，我们今天可以在实验室制造。
And so, therefore, this is kind of a real, today solution to tomorrow's problem of space dust?
因此，这是否是解决明天太空尘埃问题的真正解决方案？
Yes, exactly.
是的，完全正确。
It's a solution that we have to a problem that we have yet to encounter.
这是我们尚未遇到的问题的解决方案。
Dan says that this event did not feel like any normal scientific conference.
丹说，这次活动感觉不像任何正常的科学会议。
It felt bigger.
感觉更大了。
It was exciting, like we are heading for the stars.
这太令人兴奋了，就像我们正在奔向星星一样。
He says there was a lot of talk about Columbus and maiden voyages.
他说有很多关于哥伦布和处女航的讨论。
This is a group of people who see themselves as pioneers.
这是一群将自己视为先驱的人。
They call themselves pioneers.
他们称自己为先驱者。
And one of the speakers talked about this conference, that when they look back 300 years from now, 1,000 years from now, when people are writing the history of interstellar space travel, people will look back at this conference and see this as the first small step towards interstellar space travel.
其中一位演讲者谈到这次会议时表示，当他们300年后、1000年后回望过去，当人们书写星际旅行的历史时，人们回顾这次会议，会认为这是迈向星际旅行的第一步。
Well, today on our radio program, ordinary folks like you and me-- glasses wearing, slightly pudgy, not getting enough exercise, and I might just be talking for myself here-- who get the call of the wild, the call of adventure, and find themselves suddenly meeting criminals and smugglers on the other side of the world, traveling through time, traveling through space, fighting pirates in the fires of hell.
好吧，今天在我们的广播节目中，像你我这样的普通人——戴着眼镜，略显矮胖，缺乏足够的锻炼，我在这里可能只是为自己说话——他们受到了野性的召唤，冒险的召唤，发现自己突然遇到了世界另一边的罪犯和走私者，穿越时空，穿越太空，在地狱之火中与海盗战斗。
I am not kidding.
我不是在开玩笑。
We have true stories today, and also brand new adventure stories written for our program by Dave Eggers, Neil Gaiman, Jeanne Darst, Wendy McClure, Fiona Maazel.
今天我们有真实的故事，还有戴夫·艾格斯、尼尔·盖曼、珍妮·达斯特、温迪·麦克卢尔、菲奥娜·马泽尔为我们的节目编写的全新冒险故事。
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life, distributed by Public Radio International.
这是来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》，由国际公共广播电台发行。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Chinese Checkmate.
第一幕，中国将死。
There are people who head out into the world looking for adventure, and then there are the adventures that come and find you.
有些人走向世界寻找冒险，而有些冒险会来找你。
We start today's program with a story of somebody who thought he was having the first kind of adventure until the second one came knocking.
我们今天的节目以一个故事开始：一个人以为自己正在经历第一种冒险，直到第二种冒险来敲门。
Alex Blumberg tells what happened.
亚历克斯·布隆伯格讲述了发生的事情。
One way you know you've had an adventure is that the things you've been through are so intense, you'd like to have your name changed when they tell your story on the radio.
你知道自己经历过一次冒险的一种方式是，你所经历的事情是如此激烈，以至于当他们在广播中讲述你的故事时，你希望改掉你的名字。
So let me call our protagonist Luke.
所以让我称呼我们的主角卢克吧。
And the adventure he thought he was having was that he's an American, from Minnesota, working and living in one of the most booming, vibrant cities in the world-- Shenzhen, China.
他认为自己正在经历的冒险是，他是一个来自明尼苏达州的美国人，在世界上最繁荣、最有活力的城市之一——中国深圳工作和生活。
15 million people, one of the richest cities in China.
1500万人口，中国最富有的城市之一。
And he loved it.
他喜欢它。
He made good money, he'd built a life for himself, a life which included a semi-regular after-work pickup soccer game.
他赚了很多钱，为自己建立了自己的生活，其中包括下班后半定期的临时足球比赛。
Now his real adventure, the one that found him, started after one of these soccer games.
现在，他真正的冒险，也就是找到他的冒险，是在一场足球比赛之后开始的。
He'd gone out for a drink after a game with some of the players, and around 10 PM he was heading home, walking along one of Shenzhen's wide boulevards, with outdoor cafes and noodle shops all along it.
和一些球员打完比赛后，他出去喝了一杯，晚上 10 点左右，他沿着深圳一条宽阔的林荫大道回家，沿途都是露天咖啡馆和面馆。
So I'm kicking my soccer ball, for the most part completely under control, but all of a sudden I slip, fall on my back, and the ball goes flying.
所以我正在踢我的足球，大部分时间都在完全控制之下，但突然我滑倒了，摔倒在地，球飞了起来。
Flying directly at a man seated at one of the nearby tables.
直接飞向坐在附近一张桌子上的一名男子。
Luke is a little unclear what happened next, the ball struck either the man's bag or his dog.
卢克有点不清楚接下来发生了什么，球要么击中了那个人的包，要么击中了他的狗。
But in any event, the man got upset and got right in Luke's face, yelling at him in Cantonese.
但无论如何，这名男子很不高兴，当着卢克的面用广东话对他大喊大叫。
Luke spoke only Mandarin.
卢克只会说普通话。
The situation escalated.
事态升级。
A group of young men also started yelling at Luke.
一群年轻人也开始对卢克大喊大叫。
He could hear them coming at him from behind.
他能听到他们从后面朝他走来。
And instantly, boom.
瞬间，繁荣。
This punch comes, hits me in the right eye.
这一拳来了，正中我的右眼。
I kind of turn around to face where it came from, and there's the victim standing right in front of me, and I headbutt him.
我转身面对它的来源，受害者就站在我面前，我用头撞了他。
I don't know where that came from, I'm thinking it's the soccer instinct.
我不知道这从何而来，我想这是足球的本能。
I'm not a fighter.
我不是战士。
I've never headbutted anybody in my entire life before.
我这辈子从来没有用头撞过任何人。
And instantly, he started bleeding, and I fled.
立刻，他开始流血，我逃跑了。
I turned around and ran.
我转身就跑。
Back at his apartment, when he realized that nobody had chased him, he figured, I guess that's that.
回到他的公寓，当他意识到没有人追他时，他想，我想就是这样。
But a week later, the cops showed up at his door with the man he'd headbutted.
但一周后，警察带着被他用头撞的人出现在他家门口。
They'd tracked him down through some of the Chinese guys he played soccer with.
他们通过一些和他一起踢足球的中国人找到了他。
Turns out there aren't that many foreign white guys in Shenzhen.
原来深圳的外国白人并不多。
Over the next few weeks, the police questioned Luke several times.
接下来的几周里，警方多次审问卢克。
And then one night, they brought him in, they said to fill out some paperwork.
然后一天晚上，他们把他带进来，说要填写一些文件。
But instead, they locked him in handcuffs and threw him into a detention cell.
但他们却给他戴上手铐，关进看守所。
Luke was confused and frightened, but not as much as you'd think, mainly because a lot of the Chinese officials and police officers who were handcuffing and processing him were also telling him that this was just a small thing, a mix-up, and that it would all be resolved pretty soon.
卢克感到困惑和害怕，但没有你想象的那么严重，主要是因为很多给他戴上手铐和处理他的中国官员和警察也在告诉他，这只是一件小事，一个混乱，很快就会得到解决。
Even the guards who locked him up that night.
就连那天晚上把他关起来的看守也是如此。
It was like a Tuesday I think I went in, and they're like, we'll be back on Friday to let you know what's going on.
就像星期二，我想我进去了，他们说，我们会在星期五回来让你知道发生了什么。
And honestly, at that time I thought I was going to be released on Friday.
老实说，当时我以为我会在周五出狱。
I was thinking, OK, three nights, four nights, this is no problem.
我在想，好吧，三晚，四晚，这没问题。
I'm kind of an adventurous soul.
我是一个有冒险精神的人。
At this point, I'm still fairly calm.
此刻，我的心情还算平静。
Like, well, I'm in a Chinese jail, this is crazy, but what a story.
就像，好吧，我在中国的监狱里，这很疯狂，但这是一个多么好的故事。
And in the end, how long did you end up staying in this detention center?
那你最后在这个看守所呆了多久呢？
Eight months.
八个月。
Eight months.
八个月。
Alex Blumberg Over the next eight months, Shenzhen Foreign Detention Center Number Three became Luke's home.
Alex Blumberg 在接下来的八个月里，深圳第三外国人看守所成了卢克的家。
The cell was a rectangle, 10 by 50 feet.
牢房是一个长方形，10 x 50 英尺。
Imagine a bowling alley with high concrete walls.
想象一下有一个高高的混凝土墙的保龄球馆。
It was occupied by as many as 15 prisoners at a time.
它当时关押着多达 15 名囚犯。
As many as would fit slept side by side on a narrow plank.
尽可能多的人并排睡在一条狭窄的木板上。
The rest slept on the floor.
其余的人都睡在地板上。
Half the cell was covered by an overhang, half was in open air.
牢房的一半被悬垂物覆盖，一半在露天。
During storms, you couldn't hide from the rain blowing in, so everyone would get drenched.
暴风雨的时候，你无法躲避狂风暴雨，所以每个人都会被淋湿。
The jail was officially for foreigners, but about half the prisoners were Chinese, mostly white-collar criminals.
这所监狱按官方规定是关押外国人的，但大约一半的囚犯是中国人，其中大部分是白领罪犯。
The foreigners were a mix.
外国人是混血儿。
They were African drug mules, Indian jewel smugglers, people Luke would never have met otherwise, from corners of the world he would never have visited.
他们是非洲毒骡、印度珠宝走私者，否则卢克永远不会遇到这些人，他们来自他永远不会访问的世界各个角落。
And there were non-human residents, as well.
还有非人类居民。
The rats and the la cucarachas.
老鼠和瓜卡拉查。
This detention center was fantastic for the rats, because whenever we got done with our three meals, you'd scoop all your rice into the toilet, and so they were just all in the pipes.
这个拘留中心对老鼠来说太棒了，因为每当我们吃完三顿饭，你就会把所有的米饭舀进厕所，所以它们都在管道里。
And if lunch was late for some reason, the rats would start squeaking, like, where's our lunch?
如果午餐由于某种原因迟到了，老鼠就会开始吱吱叫，比如，我们的午餐在哪里？
And they'd pop out of the toilet, kind of run around a little bit, and we'd have to chase them back in.
他们会从厕所里跳出来，跑来跑去，我们不得不把他们追回来。
You'd literally chase the rats back into the toilet?
你真的会把老鼠赶回厕所吗？
Back into the toilet, yeah.
又进厕所了
There was always an Indian, because of this big Indian case, in every room, and they were definitely kind of circle of life, karma type thing, and they would not want you to kill anything, even a cockroach.
因为这个印度大案，每个房间里总是有一个印度人，他们绝对是一种生命循环、业力类型的东西，他们不希望你杀死任何东西，甚至是一只蟑螂。
So if a cockroach is running around, they don't want you to kill it.
因此，如果蟑螂到处乱跑，他们不希望你杀死它。
And sometimes people would respect that wish, and sometimes they wouldn't.
有时人们会尊重这个愿望，有时则不会。
The day was strictly regimented.
这一天的安排非常严格。
Up at 7:00, then breakfast-- thin rice water broth-- chores, an hour of what was called quiet study time, nap from 11:30 to 1:30, an hour of exercise, and then a couple hours of free time in the evening.
7:00起床，然后早餐——稀米水汤——做家务，一小时所谓的安静学习时间，11:30到1:30小睡，一小时锻炼，然后晚上有几个小时的空闲时间。
Luke continued to get positive news about his case.
卢克继续收到有关他案件的积极消息。
From the beginning, it had revolved around money.
从一开始，它就围绕着金钱。
The man who he'd headbutted wanted $2,000.
被他用头撞的那个人想要 2,000 美元。
Luke thought that was ridiculous.
卢克觉得这很荒谬。
He thought he was the victim.
他以为自己是受害者。
He figured all he needed to do was get in front of a judge and make his case.
他认为他所需要做的就是在法官面前陈述自己的观点。
But he'd failed to consider China's massive and mystifying bureaucracy.
但他没有考虑到中国庞大而神秘的官僚机构。
It took months for police to gather evidence, then months more to get a trial date.
警方花了几个月的时间收集证据，然后又花了几个月的时间才确定审判日期。
In theory, this detention center was supposed to be a short-term holding facility, a place to spend a couple nights before going before a judge.
从理论上讲，这个拘留中心应该是一个短期拘留设施，一个在接受法官审判之前可以待上几个晚上的地方。
But there were people who'd been there for five years.
但有些人已经在那里呆了五年了。
Contact with the outside was rare.
与外界的接触很少。
He had a lawyer, but he could only visit with him once every four or five weeks, same with visits from the consulate.
他有律师，但他只能每四五周探望一次，领事馆探访也是如此。
He had no phone, no email, and he was allowed to write one letter a month.
他没有电话，没有电子邮件，但他被允许每月写一封信。
Which I would always do at the end of the month, hoping to get as much information I could during that month, and then I would send it at the end of the month.
我总是会在月底这样做，希望在该月内获得尽可能多的信息，然后我会在月底发送。
When you read that first letter, what do you--?
当你读到第一封信时，你会——？
You were presenting the whole thing as like a big adventure, basically?
你基本上把整个事情描述成一场大冒险？
Yes, yes.
是的，是的。
At that point, I'm still thinking maybe a month, maybe two months, maybe three months.
那时，我还在想也许一个月，也许两个月，也许三个月。
I'm going to be home by Thanksgiving, Mom.
妈妈，我会在感恩节之前回家。
And then, I'm going to be home by Christmas, Mom.
然后，妈妈，我会在圣诞节前回家。
Then I'm going to be home by your birthday, March 19th, Mom.
然后我会在 3 月 19 日你生日那天回家，妈妈。
Then I want to be home for my birthday, April 26th, Mom.
然后我想回家过我的生日，4 月 26 日，妈妈。
Oh, jeez.
哦，天哪。
One feature of an adventure story, you don't just visit the foreign land, you go a little native.
冒险故事的一个特点是，你不只是去异国他乡，你还要回归本土。
That's why tourism, as much as we'd like to pretend otherwise, is not much of an adventure.
这就是为什么旅游业，尽管我们很想假装，并不是一次冒险。
Luke settled into his strange new 500 square foot world with his new roommates.
卢克和他的新室友融入了他陌生的 500 平方英尺的新世界。
There was the mayor's son, who'd taken bribes.
还有市长的儿子，他收受了贿赂。
Another Chinese guy everyone called Tiger, who was doing five years for smuggling diesel into the country without paying taxes.
另一位大家都叫老虎的中国人，因未缴税款走私柴油进入该国而被判五年徒刑。
Then there were the foreigners.
然后是外国人。
Marco, the Colombian musician with the Chinese wife, whose charges were even flimsier than Luke's.
哥伦比亚音乐家马可和中国妻子的指控比卢克的指控还要站不住脚。
A South African drug mule named Nathan.
南非毒骡名叫内森。
A teenage, Vietnamese, illegal immigrant named Nunu.
一名名叫努努（Nunu）的青少年越南非法移民。
And a member of an Indian jewel smuggling ring who was still getting a salary and used the money to buy lots of stuff from the detention center commissary, which he shared with everyone, so they called him The Warehouse.
还有一个印度珠宝走私团伙的成员，他还拿着工资，用这些钱从看守所小卖部买了很多东西，和大家分享，所以大家都叫他“仓库”。
One of my favorites was Chacha.
我最喜欢的之一是恰恰。
He was from Afghanistan.
他来自阿富汗。
45-year-old man, Muslim, big beard, jolly old fellow, kind of a Santa Claus belly.
45岁，穆斯林，大胡子，快活的老家伙，有点像圣诞老人的肚子。
He just exuded warmth.
他只是散发着温暖。
And he was very open to the idea of-- we talked a lot about the clash of civilizations.
他对这个想法非常开放——我们谈论了很多关于文明冲突的问题。
So you would just have these big, sort of, political conversations about Islam and the West?
所以你会就伊斯兰教和西方进行一些大型的政治对话？
Yeah.
是的。
It's kind of interesting to see what kind of stories he had heard about from the United States.
看看他从美国听到了什么样的故事，挺有趣的。
I remember there was that big one a couple years ago in Florida, and that woman was on life support, and like his family kind of wanted to pull the plug.
我记得几年前在佛罗里达州发生过一个大事件，那个女人靠着生命维持系统，就像他的家人一样，想终止这种生活。
Yeah, and he just thought that was horrible, that people would want to do that.
是的，他只是觉得这太可怕了，人们会想这样做。
And it's not like I'm trying to play the devil's advocate with him a lot of the time, but I'm, you know-- this is a guy that also-- just understanding these people do not-- I was really surprised about how many of these countries didn't believe the United States put a man on the moon.
我并不是很多时候都试图与他唱反调，但我，你知道，这也是一个人，只是理解这些人不这样做，我真的很惊讶有这么多国家不相信美国把人送上月球。
What?
什么？
Luke Yeah, they do not think we put a man on the moon.
卢克 是的，他们不认为我们把人送上月球。
The Chinese, for the most part, didn't think we did.
中国人在很大程度上并不认为我们做到了。
Southeast Asian countries.
东南亚国家。
Yeah, I mean, the Africans.
是的，我的意思是，非洲人。
Even the Indians, college educated Indians, and they're like, no, we're pretty much sure you guys didn't.
即使是印度人，受过大学教育的印度人，他们也会说，不，我们非常确定你们没有。
As a big, white guy from America, Luke was pretty exotic.
作为一个来自美国的高大白人，卢克很有异国情调。
Everyone called him simply America.
每个人都简单地称他为美国。
That was his nickname.
那是他的昵称。
And as nicknames go, it came with a lot of pressure.
随着昵称的出现，它也带来了很大的压力。
Luke felt like everything he did would reflect on his country.
卢克觉得他所做的一切都会反映他的国家。
There was also a guy everyone avoided, who didn't seem to have any friends.
还有一个人人都回避的人，他似乎没有任何朋友。
He was a thief nicknamed Crazy Eyes.
他是一个绰号“疯眼”的小偷。
He had a reputation for stealing stuff from his cellmates.
他因从狱友那里偷东西而闻名。
And also, he had these oozing bumps all over his body.
而且，他的全身都长满了这些渗液的肿块。
All over.
遍。
We all have the same shorts.
我们都有同样的短裤。
They are red shorts.
它们是红色短裤。
They look identical.
它们看起来一模一样。
And it's like my fifth day in there, and I put on his shorts by accident.
这就像我在那里的第五天，我不小心穿上了他的短裤。
It was in the morning, I took off my old pair, I took his pair, and I put his on.
那是在早上，我脱下我的旧鞋，拿起他的鞋，然后穿上他的鞋。
And I didn't know it was his pair.
我不知道这是他的一对。
And we don't have underwear, so I don't have underwear on, my penis is touching his penis area.
我们没有内裤，所以我没有穿内裤，我的阴茎正在接触他的阴茎区域。
All of a sudden this guy realizes that someone has his shorts, and he's asking everybody, who's got my shorts?
突然，这个人意识到有人拿了他的短裤，他问每个人，谁拿了我的短裤？
Who's got my shorts?
谁拿走了我的短裤？
And everyone's looking like, with big eyes, like, oh my god, someone's got bumpy penis's shorts.
每个人都睁着大眼睛，看起来就像，天哪，有人的阴茎短裤凹凸不平。
And I look down, and I realize I'm wearing his shorts.
我低下头，发现自己穿着他的短裤。
And yeah, that was tough.
是的，那很艰难。
As time wore on, the day's became all the same-- boredom punctuated by the occasional spasm of extreme emotion.
随着时间的推移，这一天变得一模一样——无聊中夹杂着偶尔爆发的极端情绪。
There were fights, mainly over snoring and hot water.
发生了争吵，主要是因为打鼾和热水。
Also, Luke says, you'd hear screaming in the middle of the night all the time, someone having a nightmare.
另外，卢克说，你会一直在半夜听到尖叫声，有人在做噩梦。
And then there was lots and lots of crying, the pining of hundreds and hundreds of men, continents away from their friends, their spouses, their children.
然后是无数的哭泣，成百上千的男人的憔悴，远离他们的朋友、配偶和孩子。
And sometimes people cried because they knew that this was where they were going to die.
有时人们会哭泣，因为他们知道这就是他们将要死的地方。
That was the strange thing about the detention center.
这就是看守所的奇怪之处。
Aside from the visa violations and tax frauds, there were also death penalty cases.
除了签证违规和税务欺诈之外，还存在死刑案件。
Mostly drug mules, many of them poor African kids who'd been promised quick money and then been nabbed right off the plane, thrown directly into Detention Center Number Three, where they'd stay until they were executed.
大多数是毒骡，其中许多是贫穷的非洲孩子，他们被许诺可以快速得到钱，然后一下飞机就被抓获，直接扔进第三拘留中心，在那里直到被处决。
Anything over a kilo, yeah, you're going to have a needle put into your arm and you're going to die.
任何超过一公斤的东西，是的，你的手臂都会被扎一根针，你就会死。
Did you see people taken off to be executed?
你见过有人被带出去被处决吗？
Yeah, just one.
是的，只有一个。
That was [?
那是[?
Shagwai ?] from Taiwan.
Shagwai？]来自台湾。
He got caught with like seven kilos.
他被抓住了大约七公斤。
He was kind of like a semi-famous person in the detention center.
他在看守所里有点像一个半名人。
He was in with the death penalty, so he's shackled by his ankles his entire time, for almost three years, while he was in there.
他被判处死刑，因此他的脚踝一直被铐住，将近三年。
I still knew him, even before I got to meet him.
即使在我见到他之前，我仍然认识他。
You can't see these people, but you can hear them when they're outside the courtyard, or from 3:00 to 4:00 when we're doing our exercise.
你看不到这些人，但是当他们在院子外面的时候，或者我们炼功的时候3：00到4：00的时候，你可以听到他们的声音。
Everyone's kind of hooting and hollering quite a bit, during that time, and everyone kind of yells, [?
在那段时间里，每个人都大喊大叫，每个人都大喊，[？
Shagwai, ?] [?
沙格瓦伊，？] [？
Shagwai.
沙格瓦伊。
?] But the way he exercised, this guy just was a machine at the end.
？] 但从他的锻炼方式来看，这家伙最终只是一台机器。
But he would do kind of like this step up, step down, step up, step down, on the bed that we were on.
但他会在我们睡的床上做类似这样的动作：上台阶，下台阶，上台阶，下台阶。
And this whole time, he's got chains shackled that are on his legs.
一直以来，他的腿上都戴着铁链。
So you just hear smack smack, smack smack, smack smack.
所以你只会听到啪啪啪，啪啪啪，啪啪啪。
And then you hear him all the sudden, like 45 minutes into it, start getting faster.
然后你突然听到他的声音，大约 45 分钟后，他的速度开始加快。
Smack, smack, smack, smack.
啪，啪，啪，啪。
And we would just be like, [?
我们就会像，[？
Shagwai ?], go, go, go, you know?
Shagwai？]，走，走，走，你知道吗？
[SPEAKING CHINESE], add gas.
[说中文]，加油。
Yeah, he ended up getting carted away one morning.
是的，一天早上他最终被带走了。
And we didn't know for sure, but we definitely had a different sense because this time there was like three guards that came, and one of them was the leader of the facility.
我们不确定，但我们肯定有不同的感觉，因为这次来了三名警卫，其中一名是设施的领导。
But they were like, [?
但他们就像，[？
Shagwai, ?] and he goes out and we don't see him.
Shagwai，？]他出去了，我们没有看到他。
He doesn't come back all day.
他一整天都没有回来。
And we pretty much knew by dinner time that it was not good.
到了晚餐时间我们就知道情况不好了。
And then the next day they came back and told us they had executed him the next morning.
第二天他们回来告诉我们他们已经在第二天早上处决了他。
I mean, I remember talking to him earlier that morning, even before he left.
我的意思是，我记得那天早上早些时候，甚至在他离开之前，我就和他说过话。
Because I had some apples, and he was joking that one of his apples I had eaten.
因为我有一些苹果，他开玩笑说我吃了他的一个苹果。
And I said, well, if you think I ate one of your apples, you need to eat two of mine, or something.
我说，好吧，如果你认为我吃了你的一个苹果，你就需要吃我的两个，或者其他什么。
So he had two apples, and we would kind of joke around about that.
他有两个苹果，我们会以此开玩笑。
And about five minutes later, they called him away and executed him.
大约五分钟后，他们把他叫走并处决了他。
Because of the desperation of so many of the people that Luke met, he's uncomfortable classifying his experience as an adventure.
由于卢克遇到的许多人都处于绝望之中，他不愿意将自己的经历归为一次冒险。
An adventure can be a wild night in college, or a crazy trip over spring break, but what he had was definitely different from that.
冒险可以是大学里的疯狂夜晚，也可以是春假期间的一次疯狂旅行，但他所经历的绝对与此不同。
But in classic adventure stories, like The Odyssey, there isn't much fun.
但在像《奥德赛》这样的经典冒险故事中，并没有太多乐趣。
There's pain, fear, and death, and occasionally, if you're lucky, small transformations.
这里有痛苦、恐惧和死亡，如果幸运的话，偶尔也会有小小的转变。
Maybe once every two or three months, you can purchase [UNINTELLIGIBLE] like this little hot sauce condiment thing.
也许每两三个月一次，您可以购买[无法理解]，比如这个小辣酱调味品。
And you have to really ration that stuff out, because you only get it every once in a while.
而且你必须真正定量分配这些东西，因为你只是偶尔得到它。
So the idea of just little simple things like that, realizing the significance in a place like that.
因此，我们的想法就是像这样简单的小事情，在这样的地方实现其重要性。
It's like, wow, OK, so after the new guy that just comes in slathers that stuff on, because he doesn't realize how scarce that thing really is.
就像，哇，好吧，所以在新来的人涂上厚厚的东西之后，因为他没有意识到那东西到底有多稀有。
And it's kind of like, I was that guy for a couple months.
就好像，几个月来我就是那个人。
You were that guy for life.
你一生都是那个人。
Like, Americans are that guy.
就像，美国人就是那样的人。
Exactly.
确切地。
So I saw myself kind of slowly not become that guy anymore, and just get my little spoon and put one little scoop on there, and make that last, and realize it tastes good.
所以我发现自己慢慢地不再成为那个人了，只是拿起我的小勺子，放一小勺在那里，最后做，然后意识到味道很好。
The pie chart of Luke's experience in the detention center might look like this-- 80% boring, 18% sad, 2% really weird.
卢克在看守所的经历的饼图可能看起来像这样——80% 无聊，18% 悲伤，2% 真的很奇怪。
For instance, the prison leadership felt the need now and again to engage the detainees in morale boosting exercises.
例如，监狱领导层认为有必要时不时地让被拘留者参加鼓舞士气的活动。
So one day, the guards came to Luke's cell with a new order.
于是有一天，守卫带着新的命令来到了卢克的牢房。
Every every cell needs to write a poem.
每个细胞都需要写一首诗。
You're going to do it.
你会做的。
I'm like, all right, fine.
我想，好吧，很好。
So I write a poem, and I hand it off, and I had no idea what was going to happen with this.
所以我写了一首诗，然后把它交给了我，我不知道这会发生什么。
About three weeks later, they come and say, all right, at 3 o'clock this afternoon we're having a poetry contest.
大约三周后，他们过来说，好吧，今天下午 3 点我们要举行一场诗歌比赛。
You've got to have it memorized and give it.
你必须记住它并给出它。
They'd kind of set up a little stage outside, and we had a poetry contest.
他们在外面搭建了一个小舞台，我们举行了一场诗歌比赛。
I won second place.
我获得了第二名。
Who judged it?
谁评判的？
Luke So there was a panel of elite judges.
卢克·苏有一个精英评审团。
No, it was maybe five people.
不，也许是五个人。
There was two of the leaders, I think they brought over a couple leaders from the other detention centers to watch.
有两个领导，我想他们从其他看守所带来了几个领导来观看。
So I don't know, they take a lot of pictures, they're going to put it in these little pamphlets and say, this is a model detention center, is what they keep saying.
所以我不知道，他们拍了很多照片，他们会把它放在这些小册子里，然后说，这是一个模范拘留中心，这是他们一直说的。
I sort of want to get you to recite your poem for us.
我有点想让你为我们背诵你的诗。
All right.
好的。
So let's see here.
那么让我们看看这里。
I'll start off with, so-- you, you, him and her.
我将从，所以——你、你、他和她开始。
You, you, him and I.
你，你，他，还有我。
Billions upon billions of souls in this world, what brought us together, and why?
这个世界上有数十亿的灵魂，是什么让我们聚集在一起，为什么？
Destiny, fate, a higher purpose or power, all I want to know is when can I shower?
命运，命运，更高的目标或力量，我只想知道我什么时候可以洗澡？
From the cradle of humanity, pride, length and strength, from Halong Bay to UCLA, we've all ended up here.
从人性、骄傲、长度和力量的摇篮，从下龙湾到加州大学洛杉矶分校，我们都结束了这里。
Bending when one must, for who can contest fate.
必须屈服时，谁能与命运抗争。
Leave your possessions, positions, and ambitions at home, and temporarily quit the human race.
把你的财产、地位和野心留在家里，暂时退出人类。
How long can we stay?
我们可以呆多久？
The fairies with the stars won't say.
星星仙女们就不说了。
It all depends on your money, your [UNINTELLIGIBLE], and your case.
这一切都取决于你的钱、你的[无法理解]和你的情况。
And that's it.
就是这样。
And then roaring, roaring applause.
然后是雷鸣般的掌声。
No. And then they kind of look at you with a blank stare, OK, he's done.
不。然后他们就会用茫然的眼神看着你，好吧，他完了。
And I'm like, [SPEAKING CHINESE], then they clap.
我说，[说中文]，然后他们鼓掌。
It's very much drawn from personal experience, it sounds like.
听起来，这很大程度上是根据个人经验得出的。
Well, yeah.
嗯，是的。
I tried to nail every person that was in the room.
我试图钉住房间里的每个人。
We had the Canadian, I had the Indian, we had the Cameroonian.
我们有加拿大人，我有印度人，我们有喀麦隆人。
From the cradle of humanity, pride, length and strength.
来自人类的摇篮，骄傲、长度和力量。
The Cameroonian guy was tall?
喀麦隆人很高吗？
Luke Yeah, and strong.
卢克 是的，而且很强。
By New Year's Eve, after being told one more month, one more month, over and over again, Luke had reached a low point.
到了除夕夜，在被一遍又一遍地告知又一个月又一个月之后，路克已经陷入了低谷。
This wasn't a good story anymore.
这不再是一个好故事了。
He was miserable.
他很痛苦。
He was ready to go home.
他准备回家了。
And that, of course, is when the most memorable moment of his entire incarceration happened.
当然，那是他整个监禁期间最难忘的时刻。
It was called the Spring Welcome Performance, a facility-wide, on-stage variety show.
它被称为迎春表演，是一场全馆范围内的舞台综艺节目。
Since so many of the foreign prisoners spoke English, the center's leaders wanted one of the MCs to speak English as well.
由于许多外国囚犯会说英语，该中心的领导希望其中一名MC也能说英语。
Based on his strong showing in the poetry contest, they chose Luke.
基于卢克在诗歌比赛中的出色表现，他们选择了卢克。
He agreed.
他同意了。
And he also agreed to do a performance.
并且他也同意做一场表演。
He just wasn't sure what.
他只是不确定什么。
He couldn't sing or play an instrument.
他不会唱歌，也不会演奏乐器。
Then I came up with the wonderful idea of the hokey pokey dance, because I could do it with three other people.
然后我想到了做做作的舞蹈的好主意，因为我可以和另外三个人一起跳。
It wasn't exactly the group, but it was Chacha behind me, and Nunu, the Vietnamese boy, and Indian, The Warehouse.
不完全是这群人，但我身后有 Chacha，还有越南男孩 Nunu，还有印第安人 The Warehouse。
You know, three guys behind me, and me kind of lead vocals, choreographing this-- you know, you put your right hand in, you put your right hand out.
你知道，我身后有三个人，我是主唱，编排这个——你知道，你把右手放进去，你把右手伸出来。
And we had a blast kind of practicing that, because they allowed us to practice that for a couple weeks before it, in our cell, during our quiet study time.
我们的练习非常愉快，因为他们允许我们在安静的学习时间在我们的牢房里练习几周。
So if you would've-- like from 3:00 to 4:00 during this time, you would have seen you, a Vietnamese teenager named Nunu, an Afghan drug smuggler named Chacha--
所以如果你——比如从 3:00 到 4:00 这段时间，你会看到你，一个名叫 Nunu 的越南少年，一个名叫 Chacha 的阿富汗毒品走私犯——
Correct.
正确。
Alex Blumberg And then an Indian diamond smuggler named The Warehouse, doing the hokey pokey.
Alex Blumberg 然后是一位名叫 The Warehouse 的印度钻石走私者，正在做着做作的事。
Yeah.
是的。
You put your butt in, you put your butt out, you put your butt in, and you shake it all about.
你把你的屁股放进去，你把你的屁股伸出来，你把你的屁股放进去，然后你摇晃它。
They bought a suit for me as the MC.
他们给我买了一套西装作为主持人。
It was like the first time I actually got to wear shoes in six months, seven months.
这就像六个月、七个月以来我第一次真正穿上鞋子。
And as an MC, what part of my job was was to introduce each of these skits.
作为主持人，我的工作之一就是介绍这些短剧。
And I didn't have to write the introductions for them, they would just kind of hand it to me, and they wanted me to memorize them.
我不必为他们写介绍，他们只是把它交给我，他们希望我记住它们。
So this was like a traditional American dance done at most holidays.
所以这就像大多数假期里跳的传统美国舞蹈一样。
Americans have a great sense of humor.
美国人很有幽默感。
Well, here's one of their traditional American dances that they do at most holidays.
嗯，这是他们在大多数假期都会跳的传统美国舞蹈之一。
Yeah, and it's called the hokey pokey.
是的，这就是所谓的“做作”。
I'm like sure, I don't know.
我很确定，我不知道。
Alex Blumberg It's funny when you talk about it, it seems like a really fond memory.
Alex Blumberg：当你谈论它时，这很有趣，这似乎是一个非常美好的回忆。
Yeah, I mean it's-- looking back, and seeing Chacha, The Warehouse, and Nunu dancing.
是的，我的意思是——回顾过去，看到 Chacha、The Warehouse 和 Nunu 跳舞。
I mean, there was times where my sides hurt so bad from laughing.
我的意思是，有时我的两侧会因笑而疼痛难忍。
And maybe four times-- three, four times?-- I can recall actually having that moment where I was just laughing so hard.
也许有四次——三、四次？——我确实记得那一刻我笑得很厉害。
And you know, it's just, you don't hear laughter much in that detention center at all, and it just feels really good when you have a moment like that.
你知道，只是，你在拘留中心根本听不到太多笑声，当你拥有这样的时刻时，感觉真的很好。
A couple months after the Spring Welcome Performance, Luke was finally released from the detention center through the help of a family friend with lots of connections in China.
春季迎新演出几个月后，卢克在一位在中国有广泛关系的家庭朋友的帮助下终于从看守所获释。
And it turns out, Luke had been thinking about his case all wrong from the beginning.
事实证明，卢克从一开始就对他的案子的想法是错误的。
He'd been thinking, I just need to get before a judge and plead my case.
他一直在想，我只需要到法官面前为我的案子辩护。
But the Chinese process is different.
但中国的过程不同。
The two sides basically bargain with each other.
双方基本上是在讨价还价。
It's like a mediation which the police broker.
这就像警察斡旋的调解。
He should have been negotiating a price that he felt he could pay the man he headbutted, and that would have been justice.
他应该协商一个他认为可以支付给他用头撞的人的价格，这才是正义。
Once he got sent to the detention center, it was too late.
当他被送到看守所时，已经来不及了。
And Luke realized the guy he headbutted was probably just as confused by Luke's behavior as Luke was by his.
卢克意识到，被他头撞的那个人可能对卢克的行为感到困惑，就像卢克对他的行为感到困惑一样。
You know, me being like, oh, OK, well, I'll see you in court then.
你知道，我的反应是，哦，好吧，好吧，那我法庭见。
And this guy never showed up in court.
而这个人从未出庭。
Right, and he didn't even want you to go to court, right?
对了，他甚至不想让你上法庭，对吧？
Yeah, he wanted money.
是的，他想要钱。
And he didn't get any money out of me at the end, so it's--
最后他没有从我这里得到任何钱，所以——
But in the end, now knowing what you-- like if you had to do it all over again, you would have just paid him in the beginning?
但最后，现在知道你喜欢什么，如果你必须重新来过，你会一开始就付钱给他吗？
Yeah, I mean, if someone says, you've got to spend eight months in Chinese prison, or give this guy $2,000, you give the guy $2,000.
是的，我的意思是，如果有人说，你必须在中国监狱里待八个月，或者给这个人 2,000 美元，你就给他 2,000 美元。
And yet, and this might be one of the best definitions of an adventure, even though Luke wouldn't do it again, he's glad it happened.
然而，这可能是冒险的最佳定义之一，尽管卢克不会再这样做，但他很高兴它发生了。
Yeah.
是的。
I'll go on the record as saying, yeah.
我会公开表示，是的。
You do start to see or appreciate other things.
你确实开始看到或欣赏其他事物。
Gosh, that's a tough question.
天哪，这是一个很难回答的问题。
You know, the camaraderie that you get to have with those people, you know, the stories, the opening up.
你知道，你与这些人之间的友情，你知道的故事，开放的心态。
Like, I don't think I'm ever going to get to know another Muslim-- I mean, I hope I do, but-- as much as I did with Chacha.
就像，我不认为我会去了解另一个穆斯林——我的意思是，我希望我会，但是——就像我和恰恰一样。
I mean, you spend every single hour with this guy for four or five months, you really get to know this person as a person.
我的意思是，在四五个月的时间里，你每时每刻都和这个人在一起，你才能真正了解这个人。
It's this weird thing where like, in order to get that kind of connection, it requires like a deep amount of discomfort or unpleasantness that sort of goes along with it, you know what I mean?
这是一件奇怪的事情，为了获得这种联系，它需要一种深深的不适或不愉快，与之相伴，你知道我的意思吗？
To form like that kind of connection.
形成这样的联系。
Yeah, you know, everybody's suffering, we're all suffering.
是的，你知道，每个人都在受苦，我们都在受苦。
When you're actually going to the bathroom right in front of somebody.
当你真的当着某人的面去洗手间时。
There's no walls, I mean, you're talking to them.
我的意思是，没有墙，你正在和他们说话。
You're still having a conversation with some guy with his shorts down.
你还在和一个穿着短裤的人谈话。
And we're talking about everything.
我们正在谈论一切。
And so, yeah, I guess in a sense, I do miss those kind of connections with people.
所以，是的，我想从某种意义上说，我确实怀念与人之间的那种联系。
It's so easy to imagine nearly anyone else in the same situation feeling bitter and resentful, like they shouldn't be treated this way.
很容易想象几乎其他处于同样情况的人都会感到痛苦和怨恨，就像他们不应该受到这样的对待一样。
But talking to Luke, he never complains, never seems to feel sorry for himself.
但与卢克交谈时，他从不抱怨，似乎从不为自己感到难过。
If someone had to represent our country in Detention Center Number Three in Shenzhen, China, he's maybe the perfect person.
如果有人必须在中国深圳第三看守所代表我们的国家，他可能是完美的人选。
A sturdy, open-minded Minnesotan, nicknamed America.
一个坚强、思想开放的明尼苏达州人，绰号“美国”。
Alex Blumberg.
亚历克斯·布隆伯格。
He's one of the producers of our show and one of the creators of Planet Money, which you could find at NPR.org/money.
他是我们节目的制作人之一，也是 Planet Money 的创作者之一，您可以在 NPR.org/money 上找到该节目。
Coming up, how to outwit 17th century pirates and other adventure stories, in a minute, from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International, when our program continues.
接下来，当我们的节目继续时，芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将介绍如何智取 17 世纪的海盗和其他冒险故事。
Act Two, Oh the Places We'll Go.
第二幕，哦，我们要去的地方。
We thought that any adventure show would be incomplete without the kind of old-fashioned adventure stories where people are swept out of the most ordinary lives when a visiting, you know, wizard shows up one day, or they head through the back of a wardrobe and they end up in some totally extraordinary place, encountering things that they have never ever even imagined.
我们认为，如果没有那种老式的冒险故事，任何冒险剧都是不完整的。在这种故事中，当有一天来访的巫师出现时，人们被从最平凡的生活中扫荡出来，或者他们穿过衣柜的后面，最终来到了一个完全不寻常的地方，遇到了他们从未想象过的事情。
So we asked five writers to write us very short stories, just a couple pages for each story, that do just that.
因此，我们请五位作家为我们写一些非常短的故事，每个故事只有几页，就可以做到这一点。
And we present those to you now.
我们现在将这些呈现给您。
In order, you will hear stories by Dave Eggers, Jeanne Darst, Wendy McClure, Fiona Maazel, and Neil Gaiman.
按顺序，您将听到戴夫·艾格斯、珍妮·达斯特、温迪·麦克卢尔、菲奥娜·马泽尔和尼尔·盖曼的故事。
When I was a kid in the suburbs of Chicago, adventure meant Quetico Provincial Park, up on the border of Minnesota and Canada.
当我还是芝加哥郊区的孩子时，冒险就意味着位于明尼苏达州和加拿大边境的奎蒂科省立公园。
The name implies that the place was small, but Quetico is a million acre nature preserve, so big you could go days and days without seeing another soul.
这个名字意味着这个地方很小，但奎蒂科是一个占地一百万英亩的自然保护区，大到你可以几天又一天看不到另一个灵魂。
We would go on camping trips up there, weeks of canoeing and portaging, seeing bears and moose and deer, sleeping under star-soaked skies.
我们会去那里露营，几周的划独木舟和搬运，看到熊、驼鹿和鹿，睡在星空下。
The park was isolated and so pristine that you could actually drink the water straight from the lakes.
该公园与世隔绝，非常原始，您实际上可以直接饮用湖中的水。
But I won't be going back to Quetico anytime soon.
但我不会很快回到奎蒂科。
Not after what happened to a girl name Francis Brandywine.
不是在一个名叫弗朗西斯·布兰迪万的女孩发生了什么事之后。
Francis was 17 at the time, black haired and with a reckless nature, determined always to leave the well-trod path, to break new ground and be alone.
弗朗西斯当时 17 岁，黑发，生性鲁莽，总是决心离开老路，开辟新天地，独自一人。
A few years ago, Francis was up in Quetico with her family.
几年前，弗朗西斯和家人一起住在奎蒂科。
They were in a remote part of the park, camped on the shore of one of the deeper lakes, a lonely body of water carved millions of years ago by a passing glacier.
他们在公园的一个偏远地区，在一个较深的湖泊的岸边扎营，这是数百万年前由流过的冰川雕刻而成的一片孤独的水体。
The deep part of this particular lake was rumored to be about 300 feet.
据传这个湖的深处大约有 300 英尺。
One night, after her family went to bed, Francis took the row boat out, planning to find a quiet spot in the middle of the lake, lay on the bench of the boat, look up at the sky, and maybe write in her journal.
一天晚上，家人入睡后，弗朗西斯划着小船出去，打算在湖中央找一处安静的地方，躺在船的长凳上，抬头看看天空，也许会写写日记。
So she left the shore, rowed for about 20 minutes, and when she felt satisfied that she was over the lake's deepest spot, she lay down on the bench and looked up at the night sky.
于是她离开岸边，划了大约20分钟，当她满意地划到了湖的最深处时，她躺在长凳上，抬头看着夜空。
The stars were very bright, and the aurora borealis was shimmering like a neon lasso.
星星非常明亮，北极光像霓虹灯套索一样闪闪发光。
She was feeling very peaceful.
她感觉非常平静。
Then she heard something strange.
然后她听到了一些奇怪的声音。
It was like a knock.
就像敲门声一样。
Clop, clop.
啪啪啪。
She sat up, guessing that the boat had drifted to shore and run aground.
她坐了起来，猜测船已经漂到岸边搁浅了。
But she looked around the boat, and she was still a half mile from shore.
但她环顾船四周，距离海岸还有半英里。
She leaned over the side to see if she'd hit anything, but she saw nothing-- no log, no rocks.
她靠在一边想看看是否撞到了任何东西，但她什么也没看到——没有木头，没有石头。
She lay back down.
她又躺了下来。
She told herself it could be any number of things, a fish, a turtle, a stick that had drifted under the boat.
她告诉自己，这可能是任何东西，一条鱼，一只乌龟，一根漂在船下的棍子。
She relaxed again and soon fell into a contented reverie.
她再次放松下来，很快就陷入了满足的遐想中。
She had just closed her eyes when she heard another knock.
她刚刚闭上眼睛，又听到了敲门声。
This time it was louder, a crisp plop, plop, plop, like the sound of someone knocking hard on a wooden door, except this knocking was coming from the bottom of the boat.
这次声音更大了，清脆的扑通扑通，扑通扑通的声音，就像是有人用力敲木门的声音，只不过这个敲击声是从船底传来的。
Now she was scared.
现在她很害怕。
She leaned over the side again.
她又往旁边靠了靠。
It had to be an animal.
它一定是一种动物。
But what kind of animal would knock like that, three quick, loud knocks in rapid succession?
但是什么样的动物会发出这样的敲门声，连续三声又快又响的敲门声呢？
Her mouth went dry.
她的口干舌燥。
She held onto each side of the boat, and now she could only wait to see if it happened again.
她紧紧抓住船的两边，现在她只能等着看这样的事情是否会再次发生。
The silence stretched out.
沉默蔓延开来。
A few minutes passed, and just as she began to think she'd imagined it all, the knocks came again, but this time louder.
几分钟过去了，正当她开始认为这一切都是自己想象出来的时候，敲门声再次响起，但这次更大声了。
Bam, bam, bam.
嘭，嘭，嘭。
She had to leave.
她不得不离开。
She lunged for the oars.
她猛扑向桨。
She got them in place and began rowing.
她把它们放好并开始划船。
The water was very calm, so she should've made quick progress.
水面很平静，她应该进步得很快。
But after rowing feverishly, she looked around, and she realized that she wasn't moving at all.
但在狂热地划着之后，她环顾四周，发现自己根本没有动。
Something was keeping her exactly where she was.
有什么东西让她保持原样。
Again she tried rowing, she rowed and rowed on the verge of tears, but she went nowhere.
她再次尝试划船，她划啊划，划得快要流泪了，但还是一无所获。
She stopped.
她停了下来。
She was exhausted.
她已经筋疲力尽了。
Her heavy breathing filled the air.
空气中充满了她粗重的呼吸声。
She cried.
她哭了。
She sobbed.
她抽泣着。
But soon she calmed herself again, and the boat was silent again, for 10 minutes, then 20.
但很快她又平静下来，船上又安静了，持续了十分钟，然后是二十分钟。
Again, she tricked herself into thinking she'd imagined it all.
她再一次欺骗自己，让自己以为这一切都是她的想象。
But just like before, just when she was beginning to get a grip on herself, the knocking came again, this time as loud as a bass drum.
但就像之前一样，正当她开始控制住自己的时候，敲门声再次响起，这次的声音像低音鼓一样响亮。
Boom, boom, boom.
繁荣，繁荣，繁荣。
The floorboards of the boat shook with each knock.
每一次敲击，船的地板都会震动。
Now she was so shaken she started making questionable decisions.
现在她非常震惊，开始做出可疑的决定。
The first was to lower one of the oars into the black water, trying to feel if there was some land mass, even some creature she could touch.
第一个是将其中一根桨放入黑色的水中，尝试感觉是否有陆地，甚至是她可以触摸到的生物。
As soon as the oar broke the water's surface, though, she felt a strong, silent tug at the other end, and the oar was pulled under.
然而，桨一露出水面，她就感觉到另一端有一股强大而无声的拉力，桨被拉到了水下。
She screamed, she jumped back, and now she had no options.
她尖叫着，向后跳去，现在她别无选择。
All she could do was sit, and hope, and wait-- wait for the morning to come, wait for whatever was going to happen to happen.
她能做的就是坐下来，满怀希望，等待——等待早晨的到来，等待即将发生的事情。
The knocking went on through the night.
敲门声持续了一夜。
She passed the time writing in her notebook, and it's only because of this notebook that we know what happened that night.
她在笔记本上写着打发时间，正是因为有了这个笔记本，我们才知道那天晚上发生了什么事。
Frances can't tell us.
弗朗西斯不能告诉我们。
She was never seen again.
再也没有见过她。
The boat was found on shore the next day, empty but for the journal.
第二天，人们在岸上发现了这艘船，除了日记之外，船上空无一人。
On those pages were her frantic jottings, all written in her distinctive handwriting, all but the last page.
这些页面上都是她疯狂的笔记，除了最后一页之外，全部都是用她独特的笔迹写成的。
When the journal was found, that page was still wet, and on it were four words, looking as if they'd been written quickly, with a muddy finger.
日记被发现时，那一页还湿漉漉的，上面有四个字，看起来像是用沾满泥的手指写得很快的。
They said, "I did knock first."
他们说：“是我先敲的。”
Stink Tooth was born with a baby tooth with no adult tooth underneath it, and the baby tooth had never fallen out.
臭牙一出生就有一颗乳牙，下面没有恒牙，而且乳牙从来没有脱落过。
It was rotting and dead, and her five sisters began calling her Stink Tooth.
它已经腐烂死了，她的五个姐妹开始称她为“臭牙”。
Soon her mother and father called her that, and then everyone in their town did, as well.
很快，她的父母就这么叫她，然后镇上的每个人也这么叫她。
No one ever talked about seeing a dentist and pulling it.
没有人谈论过去看牙医并拔掉它。
You carry on.
你继续。
Even though something is decaying right under your nose, you carry on.
即使有些东西正在你眼皮底下腐烂，你仍会继续前进。
At 44, she did the only thing she'd ever done, bus tables at Rouge a Levres sur un Couchon-- lipstick on a pig-- the French bistro in town in Superior, Wisconsin.
44 岁时，她做了她唯一做过的一件事，在威斯康星州苏必利尔镇的法国小酒馆 Rouge a Levres sur un Couchon 的巴士餐桌上——给猪涂口红。
She'd never gotten a raise.
她从来没有得到过加薪。
She'd seen other bus people promoted to waiter, but she definitely did not want to be a waiter.
她见过其他公交车员晋升为服务员，但她绝对不想当服务员。
The waiters were all French, not a single one here legally.
服务员都是法国人，没有一个是合法的。
If you were legal, you didn't stick around Superior.
如果你是合法的，你就不会留在上级身边。
She didn't have enough to live on.
她没有足够的生活费。
She ate off plates when she got them into the kitchen.
当她把盘子拿到厨房时，她就把它们吃掉了。
Sure, everyone did that, all the young illegal bus boys.
当然，每个人都这样做，所有年轻的非法巴士男孩。
But she also didn't have enough booze and cigarettes.
但她也没有足够的酒和香烟。
And often, when she ran out of cigarettes, she would just shut off the lights and go to sleep.
通常，当她抽完香烟后，她就会关灯睡觉。
She needed a raise.
她需要加薪。
She got to the restaurant and found Blouson, the owner.
她到了餐厅，找到了老板布卢森。
"Sir, I need a raise," she said.
“先生，我需要加薪，”她说。
Blouson ignored this.
布卢森忽略了这一点。
"Why don't you learn French, Stink Tooth?
“你为什么不学法语呢，臭牙？
You've worked here so long."
你在这里工作了这么久了。”
"I don't like to learn new things.
“我不喜欢学习新事物。
It makes you vulnerable in my opinion."
在我看来，这会让你变得脆弱。”
"Well, that in itself is very French.
“嗯，这本身就是非常法国式的。
You're lazy.
你很懒。
You love to nap, no?
你喜欢午睡，不是吗？
Your skill set is general, hazy, like a smoky room, not sure what is what, who is where.
你的技能很一般，很模糊，就像一个烟雾缭绕的房间，不确定什么是什么，谁在哪里。
You do speak French, very well, just not the language.
你确实会说法语，说得很好，只是不是那种语言。
C'est sa.
这就是。
You understand what we French call the gout de maleur , the taste for misery.
你了解我们法国人所说的“gout demaleur”，即痛苦的滋味。
You love to suffer."
你喜欢受苦。”
"Perhaps, sir, but I'd still like a raise."
“也许吧，先生，但我还是想要加薪。”
Suddenly, shouting and cackles were heard out on the street, and a crew of 11 pirates from 17th century Hispaniola broke down the door of Rouge a Levres sur un Couchon, brandishing swords, breaking tables, and smashing windows.
突然，街上传来喊叫声和咯咯声，来自 17 世纪伊斯帕尼奥拉岛的 11 名海盗冲破了 Rouge a Levres sur un Couchon 的大门，挥舞着剑，打破了桌子，砸碎了窗户。
Stink Tooth took note of the marauders' filthy faces and hands, their period-perfect, tattered, billowy shirts, as they burned chairs and flung centerpieces everywhere.
臭牙注意到了掠夺者肮脏的脸和手，他们穿着完美的、破烂的、翻腾的衬衫，他们烧毁了椅子，把中心装饰品扔得到处都是。
"I'm never getting out of here tonight."
“今晚我永远不会离开这里。”
They yelled that they were looking for the famous treasure of Leopold the Sullen of Spain.
他们大喊着要寻找西班牙闷闷不乐的利奥波德的著名宝藏。
Stink Tooth ignored them, walking back and forth to the kitchen to get a broom to clean up the broken windows, and then back again because she forgot her dustpan.
臭牙没理他们，在厨房里来回走动，拿扫帚清理破损的窗户，然后又回来了，因为她忘了带簸箕。
They demanded to know who was in charge of the restaurant.
他们要求知道谁是这家餐厅的负责人。
Blouson yelled, "I am in charge.
布卢森喊道：“我负责。
This is my restaurant." The pirates ignored him, surveying the place and surmising that Stink Tooth was clearly in charge, as she was the most manly, masculine creature in the joint.
这是我的餐厅。”海盗们无视了他，环视了这个地方，推测臭牙显然是负责人，因为她是这个地方最有男子气概的生物。
They held up and pointed to their crinkly yellowed map, which said the Sullen treasure was buried under the restaurant.
他们举起并指着皱巴巴的泛黄地图，地图上写着阴郁的宝藏埋在餐厅下面。
They told Stink Tooth that, as the leader of the restaurant, he-- they called her he-- needed to get all the customers out, so that they could burn the place to the ground to dig for the treasure.
他们告诉臭牙，作为餐厅的领导者，他——他们称她为他——需要把所有的顾客都赶出去，这样他们就可以烧毁这个地方来挖掘宝藏。
"Burn this place to the ground?" Stink Tooth said, "I've wanted to burn this place to the ground for most of my adult life.
“把这里烧为平地？”臭牙说：“我成年后的大部分时间都想把这个地方烧毁。
Matches are in the hostess podium."
比赛在女主持人的讲台上进行。”
They began lighting torches when their leader, Captain Treadwell, yelled, "Stop!
当他们的领导者特雷德韦尔上尉大喊“停下来！”时，他们开始点燃火把。
Stop!
停下来！
Why, I ask you all, is he so eager to torch the place?
我问你们，为什么他这么急于烧毁这个地方？
He's already gotten to the booty.
他已经拿到了战利品。
The treasure is clearly somewhere else." One of the captain's men grabbed Blouson by the hair and dragged him across the floor to where Stink Tooth was standing.
宝藏显然在别的地方。”船长的一名手下抓住布卢森的头发，把他从地板上拖到臭牙站着的地方。
He threatened to cut off Blouson's head if Stink Tooth didn't tell them where he had relocated the treasure.
他威胁说，如果臭牙不告诉他们他把宝藏转移到了哪里，他就砍掉布劳森的头。
Stink Tooth walked through the swinging kitchen doors and came back and handed the pirate a knife.
臭牙穿过旋转的厨房门，回来递给海盗一把刀。
"It's an Oxo," she said, "better grip than what you've got there."
“这是一辆 Oxo，”她说，“抓地力比你现有的更好。”
Captain Treadwell, feeling that decapitation wasn't impressing Stink Tooth, glared.
特雷德韦尔上尉觉得斩首并没有给臭牙留下深刻的印象，他怒目而视。
"Stink Tooth, you will tell us where that Sullen treasure is, or we will cut off the arms of all your customers," Treadwell said.
“臭牙，你得告诉我们闷闷不乐的宝藏在哪里，否则我们会砍掉你所有顾客的手臂，”特雷德韦尔说道。
"That sounds like an awful lot of work, if you ask me," Stink Tooth said.
“如果你问我的话，这听起来工作量很大，”臭牙说。
Treadwell ordered the pirates to begin.
崔德韦尔命令海盗们开始行动。
"Anywhere in particular you'd like me to start, Stink Tooth?"
“你想让我从哪里开始，臭牙？”
"Yeah, actually, table 12 by the front door.
“是的，实际上，前门的 12 号桌。
Real plate cleaner, that one.
真正的盘子清洁剂，就是那个。
Has never so much left a few frites for me to take home in all the years I've worked here.
我在这里工作的这些年里，从来没有留下这么多薯条让我带回家。
Why don't you start with him?
为什么不从他开始呢？
His name's Ted Turk." One of the pirates dragged Ted Turk over to Stink Tooth and put a large blade at his arm.
他的名字叫特德·特克。”其中一名海盗把特德·特克拖到臭牙身边，把一把大刀片放在他的手臂上。
"Hey there, Ted." "Hey, Stink Tooth."
“嘿，特德。” “嘿，臭牙。”
"Crazy day." "Oh god, yeah," said Ted.
“疯狂的一天。” “天哪，是的，”特德说。
"They're going to cut off your arms, Ted."
“他们会砍掉你的手臂，特德。”
"That's what they're saying, isn't it?"
“他们就是这么说的，不是吗？”
Captain Treadwell screamed for both of them to put a lid on it.
特雷德韦尔船长尖叫着让他们俩盖上盖子。
He considered a new plan, since maiming and killing others wasn't working with her.
他考虑了一个新计划，因为残害和杀害他人不适合她。
"People are always wanting to do things," Stink Tooth said to Ted.
“人们总是想做点什么，”臭牙对泰德说。
"Do, do, do.
“做，做，做。
This is glamorous?
这很光鲜亮丽？
Doing things?
做事？
This is any way to live?
这还有什么活路吗？
Striving, sweating, searching?
努力、流汗、寻找？
Treadwell, you think anyone's going to remember you for all this effort?
特雷德韦尔，你认为有人会记住你的所有努力吗？
OK, yes, slaughtering, maiming, pillaging, all real calorie burners, I'll give you that.
好吧，是的，屠杀、残害、掠夺，所有真正的卡路里燃烧者，我会给你的。
But come on.
但来吧。
It's also just pointless.
这也是毫无意义的。
This is silly, boys, really.
这真的很傻，孩子们。
All this exertion's a bit embarrassing.
所有这些努力都有点尴尬。
It's so obvious and empty.
它是如此明显和空洞。
At the end of the work day, you're drunk and alone and hating the world, just like me.
一天的工作结束后，你会喝得酩酊大醉，孤独一人，憎恨这个世界，就像我一样。
The same results can be had with no effort at all."
不费吹灰之力就能得到同样的结果。”
The pirates look at each other, wipe the sweat from their eyes, and rub their lower backs, finally lowering their swords.
海盗们面面相觑，擦了擦眼角的汗水，揉了揉腰，最后放下了剑。
They head out the front door, one battered pirate releasing his parrot into the night sky over Lake Superior.
他们走出前门，一名饱受折磨的海盗将他的鹦鹉释放到苏必利尔湖上空的夜空中。
Captain Treadwell called back to her from the door.
特雷德韦尔上尉在门口喊她。
"I can pull that tooth for you, lassie."
“我可以帮你拔掉那颗牙，小姑娘。”
"Sorry, Captain," she said, "this tooth is who I am."
“对不起，船长，”她说，“这颗牙齿就是我。”
The customers emerge from under tables and the bathroom.
顾客从桌子底下和浴室里出来。
One by one they pat her on the back and shake her hand, thanking her for saving them, no one getting too close to her.
他们一一拍着她的背，握着她的手，感谢她救了他们，没有人离她太近。
These people have known her her whole life.
这些人认识她一辈子。
They know not to get too close.
他们知道不要靠得太近。
Stink Tooth looks at Blouson.
臭牙看着布劳森。
"I'm sorry, Stink Tooth.
“对不起，臭牙。
No raise.
没有加薪。
Non.
非。
"
”
Heaven only knows why Uncle Cornelius agreed to let my twin brother Kirby and me come for a visit in his rambling townhouse, when he was so busy working to perfect his latest secret invention.
天知道为什么科尼利厄斯叔叔同意让我的双胞胎兄弟柯比和我去他杂乱无章的联排别墅参观，当时他正忙着完善他最新的秘密发明。
It's not like we didn't have other relatives willing to take us in whenever our parents absconded to the Orient for a spell, which was often.
每当我们的父母潜逃到东方一段时间时，我们并不是没有其他亲戚愿意收留我们，这种情况经常发生。
Of the half dozen eccentric uncles and aunts charged with looking after us, Uncle Cornelius was the most absent-minded.
在负责照顾我们的六个古怪的叔叔阿姨中，科尼利厄斯叔叔是最心不在焉的一个。
He was also the only one who didn't have a Merchant Marine, a robot, or a Chinaman for a servant.
他也是唯一一个没有商船、机器人或中国人作为仆人的人。
So it was hardly a surprise that he neglected to lock the door to the third floor room, the one that he'd instructed us never to enter.
因此，他忘记锁上三楼房间的门也就不足为奇了，他指示我们永远不要进入那个房间。
It was a rainy morning, and we were sick of playing cribbage, so we tiptoed down the hall to visit the secret room, which, as we soon discovered, was a butler's pantry filled with an elaborate assortment of wires and glass knobs.
那是一个下着雨的早晨，我们厌倦了玩纸牌游戏，所以我们蹑手蹑脚地穿过大厅去参观秘密房间，我们很快发现，这是一个管家的储藏室，里面装满了各种精致的电线和玻璃旋钮。
"By god," Kirby declared, "it's a time machine."
“上帝啊，”柯比宣称，“这是一台时间机器。”
This was a lucky guess on Kirby's part.
对于柯比来说，这是一个幸运的猜测。
For all anyone knew, the butler's pantry could have been a portal into another dimension, except that alternate realities were definitely more Great Aunt Emily in specialty, whereas a time machine just seemed so Uncle Cornelius, who was presently hurrying down the hall in his asbestos bathrobe.
众所周知，管家的食品储藏室可能是通往另一个维度的门户，只不过替代现实肯定更擅长艾米丽姨妈，而时间机器似乎更适合科尼利厄斯叔叔，他目前正穿着石棉浴袍匆匆穿过大厅。
"Children, don't touch anything," he cried.
“孩子们，不要碰任何东西，”他喊道。
"Well, except for that giant lever over there that's making a sort of electrical humming noise," he added.
“好吧，除了那边那个巨大的杠杆会发出一种电子嗡嗡声，”他补充道。
"Try that."
“试试那个。”
Kirby couldn't wait.
柯比等不及了。
"Hikey pikey!" he exclaimed as he reached for the switch.
“嘿嘿嘿！”他伸手去拿开关时惊呼道。
"Let's go."
“我们走吧。”
"Wait," called Uncle Cornelius.
“等等，”科尼利厄斯叔叔喊道。
He reached inside one of the pantry cabinets and drew out a fistful of silverware.
他把手伸进一个食品储藏柜，拿出一把银器。
"Take one of these bouillon spoons," he cried.
“拿一把汤勺来，”他喊道。
"Put it in your pocket, and whatever you do, don't leave the--" but just then, Kirby pulled the switch, there was a flash of cerulean light, and before we knew it, we were all standing in a primordial swamp watching massive brontosauri swim by.
“把它放进口袋里，无论你做什么，都不要离开——”但就在那时，卡比拉动了开关，一道蓝色的光芒闪过，在我们意识到之前，我们都站在一片原始沼泽中，看着巨大的雷龙游过。
"Hot zig!" cried Kirby.
“热齐格！”柯比喊道。
"Just like we read in geology class."
“就像我们在地质课上读到的那样。”
"The scientists are right about dinosaurs," proclaimed Uncle Cornelius.
“科学家们对恐龙的看法是正确的，”科尼利厄斯叔叔宣称。
"At last we have proof.
“我们终于有证据了。
And proof that my invention works." He swatted at a passing pterodactyl with one of his slippers.
并证明我的发明有效。”他用一只拖鞋拍打一只路过的翼手龙。
"Enough of this place.
“这个地方够了。
Grasp your spoons, children.
孩子们，拿起你们的勺子。
Let's return to good old 1949 where we belong."
让我们回到我们所属的美好的1949年。”
My bouillon spoon began to tingle in my hand, sort of like a joy buzzer, and before I knew it, we were back in the pantry.
我的肉汤勺开始在我的手中刺痛，有点像欢乐蜂鸣器，在我意识到之前，我们回到了食品储藏室。
After that first trip to prehistoric times, we had several time travel journeys a day.
在第一次史前时代之旅之后，我们每天都会进行几次时间旅行。
Except, it was hard to tell what a day was anymore, since our time travels never lasted more than a few seconds in the present, which meant Kirby and Uncle Cornelius and I would have breakfast and then spend two weeks in, say, the Acadian empire, then we'd return to the hot toast that we'd put in the toaster before we left, which we'd eat while Uncle Cornelius quizzed us about the Mesopotamian's invention of irrigation systems.
不过，很难说一天是什么了，因为我们的时间旅行从来不会持续超过几秒钟，这意味着柯比、科尼利厄斯叔叔和我会吃早餐，然后在阿卡迪亚帝国度过两周，然后我们会回到出发前放入烤面包机的热吐司，一边吃一边科尼利厄斯叔叔向我们询问美索不达米亚灌溉系统的发明。
All the same, I began to savor the little moments in between our journeys.
尽管如此，我开始享受旅程之间的点点滴滴。
I craved the sheer ordinariness of the ordinary day that was interrupted again and again by adventure.
我渴望过着一次又一次被冒险打断的平凡日子。
I began to wonder if I could travel just a day or two into the recent past so that I could visit myself and convince that version of myself to travel with Kirby and my uncle, while I remained in the present and read Trixie Belden.
我开始想知道我是否可以回到最近的过去一两天，这样我就可以拜访自己并说服那个版本的自己与柯比和我叔叔一起旅行，而我则留在当下并阅读特里克西贝尔登。
Plus, I just wasn't sure if we should be playing with the space-time continuum like it was Kirby's chemistry set or something.
另外，我只是不确定我们是否应该像卡比的化学装置或其他东西一样玩时空连续体。
But whenever I brought up time dilation and special relativity, Uncle Cornelius would say, "Do you want to see how little girls who ask too many questions grow up?
但每当我提起时间膨胀和狭义相对论时，科尼利厄斯叔叔就会说：“你想看看问太多问题的小女孩如何长大吗？
You'll spend the 1960s as a spinster if you don't zip that lip, young lady."
如果你不闭嘴，年轻的女士，你将在 20 世纪 60 年代以老处女的身份度过。”
It wasn't until I found a note under my pillow that said, "I'm not coming back," written in my own handwriting, that I knew I had to do something.
直到我在枕头下发现一张纸条，上面写着我亲笔写的“我不会回来”，我才知道我必须做点什么。
Or rather, that I had already done something in a future where I clearly had more nerve.
或者更确切地说，我已经在未来做了一些我显然更有勇气的事情。
And so while Kirby and Uncle Cornelius were in the kitchen, buttering their 74th piece of toast of the morning, I said goodbye to Fibber McGee, the passenger pigeon we had brought back from the 19th century, and left my note on my bed along with my bouillon spoon.
因此，当柯比和科尼利厄斯叔叔在厨房里给他们早上的第 74 片吐司涂黄油时，我向我们从 19 世纪带回来的旅鸽菲伯·麦吉告别，并把我的字条和我的汤勺一起留在了床上。
And then I went into the butler's pantry one last time to steal a moment for myself.
然后我最后一次走进管家的食品储藏室，为自己偷了一会儿。
May 11, 2010.
2010 年 5 月 11 日。
We're in an open jeep from Ashgabat to Derweze, me and some of the boys from the lodge.
我和旅馆的一些男孩乘坐一辆敞篷吉普车从阿什哈巴德前往德韦兹。
The road looks like someone dragged his boot through the desert and went, "Hope this works."
这条路看起来就像有人拖着靴子穿过沙漠，然后说道：“希望这能管用。”
Hubert's wearing a hospital mask.
休伯特戴着医院口罩。
Orville's throwing up.
奥维尔呕吐了。
I feel the sand all up in my drawers and think, so this is Turkmenistan.
我摸着抽屉里的沙子，心想，这就是土库曼斯坦。
Our guide, Weppa, stands up every few seconds, throws out his arms, and says, "All lands are squalid before you, the desert." His complexion's like beef jerky, though he seems nice enough.
我们的向导韦帕每隔几秒钟就站起来，伸出双臂，说道：“在你面前，所有的土地都是肮脏的，沙漠。”他的肤色就像牛肉干，不过看起来还不错。
Last year at this time, we were fishing the Newark Bay right by the airport.
去年的这个时候，我们在机场附近的纽瓦克湾钓鱼。
Trouble was, Orville got his thyroid trashed from PCBs in the crab, and Hubert caught something in the lungs, maybe from all the jet fuel.
问题是，奥维尔的甲状腺因螃蟹中的多氯联苯而被破坏，而休伯特的肺部也感染了一些东西，可能是来自所有的喷气燃料。
So their doctors said, "Go heal in a warm dry place." There was an ad up at the lodge, something about immortal fire and men needed to put it out.
所以他们的医生说：“去温暖干燥的地方治疗吧。”小屋里有一则广告，内容是关于不灭之火，需要人们来扑灭它。
Some of the other boys had already signed up and come this way.
其他几个男孩已经报了名，朝这边过来了。
The ad said, Success full of doubt.
广告上说，成功充满疑问。
Lunch provided.
提供午餐。
"Ship of the desert," says Weppa as we stop for a camel in our path.
“沙漠之船”，当我们停下来寻找途中的一头骆驼时，韦帕说道。
We're going to the hell gate.
我们要去地狱之门。
In 1971, some geologists were drilling for gas when their rig sank into a hole the size of two jumbo jets.
1971 年，一些地质学家在钻探天然气时，他们的钻机陷入了两架大型喷气式飞机大小的洞中。
Their thinking then was toxic fumes leeching into the air, and something like, oh god, what have we done?
他们当时的想法是有毒烟雾渗入空气中，然后想，天哪，我们做了什么？
The geologists decided to set it on fire.
地质学家决定放火焚烧它。
40 years later, it's still on fire.
40年后，它依然火热。
Last week, Hubert asked if it was like a barbecue pit, like one of those Hawaiian meat caves, and I said, "Sure, it's just like that." None of us has any firefighting experience, but I did some reading on the plane.
上周，休伯特问它是否像一个烧烤坑，就像夏威夷的肉洞之一，我说：“当然，就是这样。”我们都没有任何消防经验，但我在飞机上读了一些书。
We pick up a guy from Yerbent.
我们从耶尔宾特接了一个人。
He's wearing a mop of tinsel, it looks like.
看起来他穿着一件金属丝拖把。
"Nomad," says Weppa, by way of introduction.
“Nomad，”韦帕介绍道。
The nomad says, "Watching the crater, you will be courting hot, red flame of magnificent eternity in hell."
游牧者说：“看着这个火山口，你就会在地狱里追求绚丽永恒的炽热、红色火焰。”
It says in my travel guide the way to put out a natural gas fire is to drill into the coal and flood it with water and slurry, smother it with nitrogen foam.
我的旅行指南上说，扑灭天然气火灾的方法是钻入煤中，用水和泥浆淹没，然后用氮气泡沫将其窒息。
I figure all this stuff's at the site, but for good measure, we all have mini-foamers in our packs.
我想所有这些东西都在现场，但为了更好地衡量，我们的包里都有迷你泡沫器。
The sun has gone down, so there's light visible in the distance.
太阳已经落山了，远处可见一丝光亮。
In fact, the whole sky's lit up for miles, like a city.
事实上，方圆几英里的整个天空都被照亮了，就像一座城市。
Orville says, "Maybe they got running water, and Dramamine, and a hospital nurse."
奥维尔说：“也许他们有自来水、茶苯海明和一名医院护士。”
Weppa shakes his head.
韦帕摇摇头。
"No city," he says, standing up.
“没有城市，”他站起来说道。
"Hell hole.
“地狱洞。
All men bow before you, hell hole." Me and the boys stare at the light come up from the Earth like a lampshade upside down.
所有的人都在你面前鞠躬，地狱。”我和孩子们盯着从地球升起的光，就像一个倒置的灯罩。
It glows more gold than red, maybe what Fort Knox is with the dome blown off.
它发出的金色光芒比红色光芒更多，也许就像诺克斯堡被炸毁的圆顶一样。
But as we get closer and park, and all three of us start walking towards the crater, the size of a football field, the crater calling out to us like those ladies who seem nice but then not so much, my face gets blasted with the heat, and we're still yards away.
但当我们靠近并停车时，我们三个人开始朝火山口走去，火山口有一个足球场那么大，火山口像那些看上去很友善但其实并不那么友善的女士们一样向我们呼唤，我的脸被热气烤焦了，而我们仍然在几码之外。
The crater's not roped off-- the cordon kept melting, I bet-- so you can walk right up to the edge, and what you see is damnation itself.
火山口没有用绳子围起来——我敢打赌，警戒线一直在融化——所以你可以直接走到边缘，你看到的就是诅咒本身。
A 200 foot drop, flames snapping at the stars, and a sound like death, hot and close in your ear, whispering hello.
从 200 英尺高处落下，火焰在星星上噼啪作响，还有一种像死亡一样的声音，灼热而近在你耳边，低声打招呼。
I don't see any equipment to put out this fire.
我没有看到任何设备来扑灭这场火灾。
What I do see are Weppa and the nomad struggling with Orville and Hubert, saying something about the president of Turkmenistan wanting to close the hole, but no way are they letting anyone close the hole.
我所看到的是韦帕和游牧民族与奥维尔和休伯特的斗争，说土库曼斯坦总统想要堵住这个洞，但他们绝不会让任何人堵住这个洞。
The torment of man is in that hole.
人的痛苦就在那个洞里。
It should probably stay in that hole.
它应该留在那个洞里。
Do not tinker with the design of the hole.
不要修改孔的设计。
Weppa nudges me forward.
韦帕推着我向前走。
The nomad is yelling, "There are bones in the hole!" The implication being, see what happens to American mens from lodge who come to vanquish our hole?
牧民大喊：“洞里有骨头！”言下之意是，看看来自旅馆的美国男人来征服我们的洞会发生什么？
This explains why Edwin and Francis and Charles didn't come back.
这就解释了为什么埃德温、弗朗西斯和查尔斯没有回来。
They've got us headed for a plank that juts over the mouth of the crater.
他们让我们前往一块伸出火山口的木板。
The plank is fire resistant, I guess.
我猜这块木板是防火的。
I'm 67 with a bum hip, so it's not like I'm thinking, run.
我已经 67 岁了，臀部有屁股，所以我想的不是跑步。
And anyway, come up at Dune, nomadic shepherds on camel and an army from Yerbent.
不管怎样，来到沙丘，骑着骆驼的游牧牧羊人和一支来自耶尔本特的军队。
We are surrounded.
我们被包围了。
I look at the boys.
我看着男孩们。
I go for my mini-foamer and take aim at our captors.
我拿起迷你起泡器，瞄准抓捕我们的人。
The boys do the same, and when I let out the cry we use at the lodge to announce dinner, they know what it means.
男孩们也做同样的事情，当我发出我们在小屋宣布晚餐的喊声时，他们知道这意味着什么。
It means, destiny awaits.
意思是，命运在等待。
Shoot.
射击。
And we do.
我们确实这么做了。
The camels are out of there in no time.
骆驼很快就离开了那里。
The nomad talks tough, but he's out of there too.
游牧者嘴上说得很强硬，但他也离开了那里。
Back in the jeep, I tell the boys, there really is no point to what we're doing here.
回到吉普车上，我告诉孩子们，我们在这里做的事情确实没有意义。
Snuff out the torment of man in one place, it'll just rise up someplace else.
在一个地方消灭人的痛苦，它只会在其他地方兴起。
I told my wife that I was going to write about adventures, and she laughed without stopping for two minutes.
我告诉妻子我要写冒险，她笑了两分钟。
I timed her.
我给她计时了。
She laughed from 11:09 until 11:11.
她从11点09分一直笑到11点11分。
"Are you going to tell them," she said when she pulled herself together and more or less stopped laughing, "about how you call every trip to the store an adventure?" I told her that I wasn't, that I was going to write something rich, and true, and wonderful for the radio.
“你会告诉他们吗？”当她振作起来并或多或少地停止了笑声时，她说道，“关于你如何将每次去商店的旅行称为一次冒险？”我告诉她我不是，我要为广播写一些丰富、真实、精彩的东西。
There would be aliens in it, and prehistoric monsters, Aztecs and vampires, crazed scientists and their beautiful daughters.
里面会有外星人、史前怪物、阿兹特克人和吸血鬼、疯狂的科学家和他们美丽的女儿。
It would contain, somewhere in its 700 words, spies and swordsmen, oracles and barbarians, ghosts, a dancing bear, wise women, werewolves, foot-long carnivorous centipedes, and quite possibly some illicit sex.
它的 700 个单词中可能包含间谍和剑客、神谕和野蛮人、鬼魂、跳舞的熊、智慧的女人、狼人、一英尺长的食肉蜈蚣，很可能还有一些不正当的性行为。
She still laughed.
她还是笑了。
I don't think she believed me.
我想她不相信我。
And she's right.
她是对的。
I get it from my parents, I'm afraid.
恐怕是我从父母那里得到的。
In my family, adventure tended to be used to mean any minor mishap we survived, or even any break from routine, except by my mother, who still uses it to mean what she did that morning.
在我的家里，“冒险”往往被用来指我们幸存下来的任何小事故，甚至是任何对日常生活的打破，除了我的母亲，她仍然用它来指她那天早上所做的事情。
I suspect that my father, who loved G.
我怀疑我的父亲，他爱G。
K.
K.
Chesterton's essays, had encountered Chesterton's aphorism that an inconvenience is only an adventure looked at the wrong way, and an adventure only an inconvenience wrongly considered, and he took it to heart.
在切斯特顿的文章中，我遇到了切斯特顿的格言：“不便只是一种以错误的方式看待的冒险，而冒险只是一种错误地考虑的不便”，他把这句话牢记在心。
So any inconvenience, any problem, any struggle of a personal nature, any of these things in my family would be described as an adventure.
因此，任何不便、任何问题、任何个人性质的挣扎，我家里的任何这些事情都将被描述为一次冒险。
Let's admit it.
我们承认吧。
Real adventures are the sorts of things most of us would just as soon avoid.
真正的冒险是我们大多数人都想避免的事情。
I wouldn't know what to do if I were on a plane that crashed into an Amazonian dinosaur valley, or a Fumanchu unleashed his centipedes of doom in my general direction.
如果我乘坐的飞机坠入亚马逊恐龙谷，或者福满楚向我的大致方向释放了他的毁灭蜈蚣，我将不知道该怎么办。
Probably I'd die, quickly and fairly horribly.
也许我会死得很快而且相当可怕。
A character in one of my novels, Tristan Thorn, put this better than I or any of my family members ever managed to.
我的一本小说中的人物特里斯坦·索恩（Tristan Thorn）对这一点的阐述比我或我的任何家庭成员都更好。
"Adventures were all very well in their place," he thought, "but there's a lot to be said for regular meals and freedom from pain."
“冒险本来就很合适，”他想，“但规律的饮食和免于痛苦还有很多值得说的。”
Neil Gaiman.
尼尔·盖曼.
Before him we heard, in order, Dave Eggers, Jeanne Darst, Cristin Milioti reading a story by Wendy McClure, and John Conlee reading a story by Fiona Maazel.
在他之前，我们依次听到戴夫·埃格斯、珍妮·达斯特、克里斯汀·米利奥蒂朗读温迪·麦克卢尔的故事，约翰·康利朗读菲奥娜·马泽尔的故事。
Thanks to all of them.
感谢他们所有人。
Well, our program was produced today by Robyn Semien, with Ben Calhoun, Sarah Koenig, Jonathan Menjivar, Lisa Pollak, Alissa Shipp, and Nancy Updike.
今天我们的节目由 Robyn Semien、Ben Calhoun、Sarah Koenig、Jonathan Menjivar、Lisa Pollak、Alissa Shipp 和 Nancy Updike 共同制作。
Our senior producer's Julie Snyder.
我们的高级制片人朱莉·斯奈德。
Production help from [?
来自 [?的生产帮助
Micky Meek.
米基·米克.
?] Seth Lind is our production manager.
？] Seth Lind 是我们的生产经理。
Emily Condon's our office manager.
艾米丽·康登是我们的办公室经理。
Music help from Damien Grey, from Rob [?
来自达米恩·格雷（Damien Grey）和罗布（Rob）的音乐帮助[？
Geddes.
格德斯。
?] Our website, thisamericanlife.org.
？] 我们的网站，thisamericanlife.org。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] One of the longtime producers here at This American Life is moving on.
[致谢]《This American Life》的一位长期制作人正在继续前进。
Jane Feltes started here as an intern in 2003 and then came on staff as a producer in 2004.
Jane Feltes 于 2003 年开始在这里实习，并于 2004 年成为制片人。
Her sensibility has shaped our show in countless ways over the years, made hundreds of stories better, and any show that was especially out for fun-- our amusement park show this summer, Christmas shows, Halloween shows-- those were usually Jane.
多年来，她的敏感性以无数的方式塑造了我们的节目，使数百个故事变得更好，而任何专门为了好玩的节目——我们今年夏天的游乐园节目、圣诞节节目、万圣节节目——这些通常都是简。
We miss her already.
我们已经想念她了。
Her new job is as a writer and co-editor of The Hair Pin, which, if you've never visited, is a really nicely-written site.
她的新工作是担任 The Hair Pin 的作家和联合编辑，如果您从未访问过，这是一个写得非常好的网站。
You can find her there under the name Jane Marie.
您可以在那里以简·玛丽的名义找到她。
That is at thehairpin.com.
那是在 thehairpin.com 上。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
WBEZ management oversight for our program by our boss, Mr. Torey Malatia, who is not happy with my performance.
我们的老板 Torey Malatia 先生对我们的项目进行了 WBEZ 管理监督，他对我的表现并不满意。
Why don't you learn French, Stink Tooth?
你为什么不学法语呢，臭牙？
You've worked here so long.
你在这里工作了这么久。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。