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00:00 00:00 文字记录 分享此 美国生活 生活伙伴 如何收听 剧集 推荐 关于 概述 员工公告 奖学金 工作 音乐 在路上制作电台 常见问题解答 提交 商品 联系我们 我们的其他节目 商品 关注我们 生活伙伴 订阅我们的时事通讯 整集 切换音频和文字记录同步 文字记录 | 内容第 447 集 | 2016 年 8 月 19 日 447:P.I. 的不可思议的案例
Moms Note: This American Life is produced for the ear and designed to be heard.
妈妈们注意:《美国生活》是为耳朵而生,旨在让人们听到。
If you are able, we strongly encourage you to listen to the audio, which includes emotion and emphasis that's not on the page.
如果可以的话,我们强烈建议您收听音频,其中包括页面上没有的情感和重点。
Transcripts are generated using a combination of speech recognition software and human transcribers, and may contain errors.
文字记录是使用语音识别软件和人工转录员结合生成的,可能包含错误。
Please check the corresponding audio before quoting in print.
请在印刷版引用前检查相应的音频。
Prologue Ira Glass OK.
序言 艾拉·格拉斯 好的。
Here was the idea.
Here was the idea.
They were private investigators, detectives for hire.
他们是私家侦探,受雇的侦探。
But they were not grizzled ex-cops in trench coats or old Humphrey Bogart characters in fedoras dragging on their unfiltered cigarettes.
但他们并不是穿着风衣、头发花白的前警察,也不是戴着软呢帽、拖着未过滤嘴香烟的汉弗莱·鲍嘉老角色。
They were moms.
她们是妈妈。
Soccer moms.
足球妈妈们。
Telegenic, sexy soccer moms.
上镜的性感足球妈妈。
Like some kind of MILF Charlie's Angels.
就像某种摩洛伊斯兰解放阵线查理的天使。
And you could see why that would be a hit.
你就会明白为什么这会很受欢迎。
Why people loved that.
为什么人们喜欢那个。
And why it was really only a matter of time before they would show up as guests on some daytime TV talk show.
以及为什么他们作为嘉宾出现在一些白天的电视脱口秀节目中实际上只是时间问题。
On the next Dr. Phil.
关于下一个菲尔博士。
They look like your average moms, but they're also--
她们看起来和普通妈妈没什么两样,但她们也是——
Gun-packing, hard-hitting private investigators.
携带枪支、凶狠的私家侦探。
You would never expect a mom in a minivan to be somebody that's on your tail.
你永远不会想到开着小型货车的妈妈会尾随在你的身后。
The brains behind this whole PI Mom thing was a guy named Chris Butler.
整个 PI Mom 事件的幕后主脑是一个名叫克里斯·巴特勒 (Chris Butler) 的人。
The way Chris Butler tells it, he'd been running a regular PI firm, when at some point, he hired a mom.
按照克里斯·巴特勒的说法,他一直在经营一家普通的 PI 公司,在某个时候,他雇佣了一位妈妈。
According to Chris, this was the Eureka moment.
据克里斯说,这是“尤里卡”时刻。
He realized that moms have what it takes to crack cases.
他意识到妈妈们有能力破案。
Patience, organization, hunches.
耐心、组织、直觉。
Plus, they blend in.
另外,他们融为一体。
Anyway, that was the shtick.
无论如何,这就是窍门。
Chris called it his secret formula, and he built a business around it.
克里斯称其为他的秘密配方,并围绕它建立了一项业务。
--5 PM.
--下午 5 点。
Charmagne to run on point.
查玛涅跑到点上。
That photograph in front of you is when we did recon.
你面前的那张照片是我们侦察时拍的。
That's what the layout of the rooms look like.
这就是房间的布局。
Inside this bag, we have the recording units.
在这个包里,我们有录音装置。
Chris Butler didn't want to talk to us.
克里斯·巴特勒不想和我们说话。
This is a tape of him running a sting operation on the hour-long episode of Dr. Phil that featured the PI Moms.
这是他在以 PI Moms 为主角的长达一小时的《菲尔博士》剧集中进行诱捕行动的录像带。
And that was just one of several big media appearances for Chris and the Moms last year.
这只是去年克里斯和妈妈们在媒体上的几次露面之一。
There was also the Today show, and Fox and a People magazine article, complete with a two page photo spread of three PI Moms in dresses and heels, posed like Charlie's Angels .
还有《今日秀》、《福克斯》和《人物》杂志的文章,其中附有三张 PI 妈妈的两页照片,她们穿着裙子和高跟鞋,摆出像查理的天使一样的姿势。
I was first approached by his PR agent in Beverly Hills.
他在比佛利山庄的公关代理人首先联系了我。
And his PR agent told me that they had just been on the Today show, and in People , and they were just about to be on Dr. Phil , so I should write about them.
他的公关代理告诉我,他们刚刚参加了《今日秀》和《人物》节目,而且他们即将参加《菲尔博士》节目,所以我应该写一下他们。
This is Pete Crooks, a writer and an editor for Diablo magazine.
我是皮特·克鲁克斯,《暗黑破坏神》杂志的作家兼编辑。
Diablo is one of those glossy monthly magazines that lots of places have, like Chicago magazine, or Columbus Monthly, or Memphis magazine.
《暗黑破坏神》是许多地方都有的精美月刊之一,例如《芝加哥》杂志、《哥伦布月刊》或《孟菲斯》杂志。
This particular one serves the East Bay area outside of San Francisco, including the Diablo Valley.
这一特殊服务覆盖旧金山以外的东湾地区,包括迪亚布罗谷。
The magazine has restaurant reviews, and local events listings, and enthusiastic profiles of celebrities from the area.
该杂志提供餐厅评论、当地活动列表以及该地区名人的热情简介。
Pete covers entertainment, so he is the one who got the pitch from the PI Moms public relations person, who told him that Chris Butler and the Moms had just landed a deal for a reality TV show on Lifetime.
皮特报道娱乐节目,所以他是从《PI Moms》公关人员那里得到宣传的人,公关人员告诉他克里斯·巴特勒和妈妈们刚刚在《Lifetime》上达成了一档真人秀节目的协议。
I said, you know, we have to do something about this, if this is going to be the Real Housewives meets Magnum PI, and it's all filmed in our backyard with East Bay moms and an East Bay boss.
我说,你知道,如果这要成为《真正的家庭主妇》和《Magnum PI》的结合,我们就必须对此做点什么,而且这一切都是在我们的后院与东湾妈妈和东湾老板一起拍摄的。
And the PR specialist promised me that I could do more than interview.
公关专家向我保证,我可以做的不仅仅是采访。
I could actually ride along on a case and be embedded with the PI Moms.
我实际上可以骑在一个箱子上并融入到 PI Moms 中。
Which was perfect.
这是完美的。
He'd be ahead of the curve on this story that was going to be on national TV and had this strong local angle, and it was a fun story.
他在这个即将在国家电视台播出的故事中处于领先地位,并且具有强烈的本地视角,而且这是一个有趣的故事。
An easy story.
一个简单的故事。
One day reporting, where you ride around with the Moms, photos on a stakeout or whatever, which could be great, a quick writeup.
有一天的报道,你和妈妈们一起骑车的地方,监视照片或其他什么,这可能很棒,一篇快速的文章。
And that is the way it started.
这就是事情开始的方式。
But Pete ended up spending months on this simple feature story.
但皮特最终花了几个月的时间来完成这个简单的故事片。
It unfolded and unfolded, and by the end, he found himself caught up in a very strange world where he was getting mysterious messages from an anonymous informant.
事情展开了又展开,到最后,他发现自己陷入了一个非常奇怪的世界,在那里他从一位匿名线人那里收到了神秘的信息。
For a while, it was unclear who he should believe about anything.
有一段时间,他不清楚自己应该相信谁。
And things that were not what they seemed were even less what they seemed than he thought they were when he first discovered they were not what they seemed.
当他第一次发现事情并非表面所见时,那些与看上去不一样的东西甚至比他想象的更不一样。
Today we take you on that same trip that he went on.
今天,我们带您踏上他所经历的同一趟旅程。
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这是来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》,由国际公共广播电台发行。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today, The Incredible Case of the PI Moms.
今天,PI 妈妈的不可思议的案例。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Josh Bearman has been talking to all the available witnesses in this case, and he tells the story.
乔什·贝尔曼(Josh Bearman)一直在与本案的所有可用证人交谈,并讲述了这个故事。
So one Thursday, Pete Crooks goes down to the PI Moms HQ.
于是,一个星期四,皮特·克鲁克斯 (Pete Crooks) 来到了 PI Moms 总部。
He introduces himself, gets some background interviews, and meets the Moms and their boss, Chris Butler, the man at the wheel of this minivan full of suburban spy gals.
他自我介绍,接受了一些背景采访,并会见了妈妈们和他们的老板克里斯·巴特勒(Chris Butler),他是这辆载满郊区间谍女郎的小型货车的司机。
Chris met me at the office.
克里斯在办公室遇见了我。
He was Mr. Cool, like right out of a TV show.
他是酷先生,就像电视剧里走出来的一样。
In fact, I walked in and I saw there were framed 8 by 10 photos of, like, Colombo, and Cagney and Lacey, and Magnum PI, Charlie's Angels, all the '70s and '80s private eyes from television.
事实上,我走进去,看到里面挂着 8 x 10 张的照片,比如《科伦坡》、《卡格尼和莱西》、《Magnum PI》、《查理的天使》,以及所有 70 年代和 80 年代电视上的私家侦探的照片。
Chris actually was an ex-cop, but he parted ways with official law enforcement because, as he described it on his website, his bosses, quote, "had trouble understanding his tactics and drive," which were well above the standards of routine performance.
克里斯实际上是一名前警察,但他与官方执法部门分道扬镳,因为正如他在自己的网站上所描述的那样,他的老板“很难理解他的策略和动力”,而这远远超出了日常表现的标准。
And then was Chris, who's this kind of puffed-up sort of burly guy with a blond goatee and, like, a very tight black sort of motorcycle T-shirt, tight jeans, and very expensive leather boots.
然后是克里斯,他是那种自负的魁梧家伙,留着金色山羊胡子,穿着非常紧身的黑色摩托车 T 恤、紧身牛仔裤和非常昂贵的皮靴。
He kind of looked like a biker cowboy cop.
他看起来有点像骑自行车的牛仔警察。
His voice just didn't ever change octaves.
他的声音从来没有改变过八度。
He definitely had this coolest guy in the room attitude.
他绝对有这个房间里最酷的人的态度。
Chris sat behind his desk, flanked by his posters and two PI Moms, Charmagne Peters and Denise Antoon.
克里斯坐在办公桌后面,两侧是他的海报和两位 PI Mom,Charmagne Peters 和 Denise Antoon。
Pete had seen them all on the TV segments.
皮特在电视节目中都见过他们。
And then, to everyone's surprise, a client showed up.
然后,令所有人惊讶的是,一位客户出现了。
Chris sees a a luxury car pull into the parking lot right outside his office.
克里斯看到一辆豪华轿车驶入他办公室外的停车场。
And this woman comes in who has retained Chris to follow her fiance around to see if he's fooling around.
这个女人进来了,她让克里斯跟踪她的未婚夫,看看他是否在鬼混。
She comes in.
她进来了。
Attractive woman in her early 50s.
50 岁出头的迷人女性。
And she explains the situation, and tells me how long she's been engaged to this man, and where she met him.
她解释了情况,并告诉我她和这个男人订婚多久了,以及她在哪里认识他的。
And over the past six to eight months, she's just really noticed that he's becoming more distant, and that he goes to the gym on Saturdays.
在过去的六到八个月里,她真的注意到他变得越来越疏远,而且他每周六都会去健身房。
And he used to go for an hour and a half to work out and come home.
他过去常常花一个半小时锻炼然后回家。
Now he's gone for seven, eight hours at a time.
现在他一次出去七八个小时。
And on one of these recent trips to the gym, when he came back, she peeked inside his gym bag, and all his workout clothes were clean and neatly folded.
最近一次去健身房时,当他回来时,她朝他的健身包里看了一眼,发现他所有的运动服都很干净,折叠得整整齐齐。
She was composed, and then she starts crying and saying that she just needs to know.
她很平静,然后开始哭泣并说她只需要知道。
If there's some funny business going on, she needs to know now.
如果发生了什么有趣的事情,她现在就需要知道。
Because this is a big point in their relationship
因为这是他们关系中的一个重要点
It's like the opening scene of practically every detective film ever made.
这就像几乎所有侦探电影的开场场景。
Nice-looking lady walks into the PI's office with tears in her eyes.
一位漂亮的女士眼含泪水走进 PI 的办公室。
Except this one has a PI Moms twist.
不过这个有 PI Moms 的特色。
When the client starts to cry, one of the PI Moms jumped up with a box of tissues, and the other one said, "Do you need a hug?" And they had this sort of bonding moment, the two PI Moms and the crying client.
当客户开始哭泣时,其中一位 PI Mom 拿着一盒纸巾跳了起来,另一位说:“你需要拥抱吗?”两位 PI 妈妈和哭泣的客户,他们有这样的亲密时刻。
The client suggested the following Saturday for the stakeout.
客户建议下周六进行监视。
Charmagne and Denise were ready with their surveillance minivan, [UNINTELLIGIBLE] recording devices, and the subject's photo and address.
Charmagne 和 Denise 准备好了他们的监控小型货车、[无法辨认]录音设备以及对象的照片和地址。
Pete sat in the back, taking notes.
皮特坐在后面,记笔记。
Sure enough, the fiance quickly appeared.
果然,未婚夫很快就出现了。
They followed him to a 24 Hour Fitness, where Denise and Charmagne videotaped him going in.
他们跟踪他去了一家 24 小时健身中心,丹尼斯和查玛尼拍下了他进去的视频。
Within ten minutes, he came out of that same front door of the gym, dressed up in this sort of Tommy Bahamas leisure wear.
不到十分钟,他就从健身房的同一个前门走了出来,穿着汤米巴哈马休闲服。
Like khaki slacks and dress shoes and a short-sleeved sort of dressy shirt.
比如卡其色休闲裤、正装鞋和短袖考究的衬衫。
And Charmagne said, oh, don't we look pretty?
查玛涅说,哦,我们看起来不漂亮吗?
And that was just the start of it.
而这只是一切的开始。
They tailed the fiance to a gated community where a young, attractive brunette appeared.
他们尾随未婚夫来到一个封闭的社区,那里出现了一位年轻、迷人的黑发女郎。
She was half the client's age, buffed, glossed, and tattooed up her entire right arm.
她的年龄只有客户的一半,整个右臂都经过抛光、上光和纹身。
The couple got in the car and the Moms followed.
夫妻俩上了车,妈妈们也跟着上了车。
Pete realized they were headed for Napa.
皮特意识到他们正前往纳帕。
The cheaters would spend the day wine-tasting.
骗子们会花一天时间品酒。
Classy, Pete thought.
很优雅,皮特想。
But Pete started noticing a few things.
但皮特开始注意到一些事情。
He was no pro at clandestine reconnaissance, but he did wonder at times about the PI Moms' strange technique.
他并不是秘密侦察方面的专家,但他有时确实对 PI Moms 的奇怪技术感到好奇。
We'd been following him from his house to the gym, from the gym to the gated community, and from the gated community to the freeway, exactly one car length in the same minivan behind this guy.
我们一直跟着他,从他家到健身房,从健身房到封闭社区,再从封闭社区到高速公路,在这家伙身后开着同一辆小型货车,正好一辆车长。
When the fiance turned, they turned.
当未婚夫转身时,他们也转身。
When he made a mistake and had to pull a sudden illegal U-turn, the Moms pulled the exact same maneuver.
当他犯了一个错误,不得不突然非法掉头时,妈妈们也采取了完全相同的动作。
At one point, the couple stopped at Starbucks.
有一次,这对夫妇在星巴克停了下来。
And if you'll just visualize this for a moment, the mommy minivan was right behind them, subject car and tail car, crawling towards iced mochas, alone in a half-empty parking lot.
如果你想象一下,妈妈的小型货车就在他们身后,主题车和尾车,独自在半空的停车场爬向冰摩卡咖啡。
And I started to ask, you know, don't you have to hang back a little bit?
我开始问,你知道吗,你不需要退缩一下吗?
And Charmagne and Denise said, no, no. You know, he's in his own little world there, on his date.
查曼和丹妮丝说,不,不。你知道,在约会时他沉浸在自己的小世界里。
He doesn't even realize we're here.
他甚至没有意识到我们在这里。
Did you just think that they were incompetent at doing this kind of thing?
你只是觉得他们无能做这种事吗?
Or did you think that they in fact knew exactly what they were doing?
或者你认为他们实际上清楚地知道自己在做什么?
When they reassured you, did you say, oh, well, they've done this before?
当他们向您保证时,您是否说,哦,好吧,他们以前这样做过吗?
I have to admit, I went along with it and thought, they've been doing this five days a week, and I've never gone on a ride along with an investigator before.
我不得不承认,我同意了,并想,他们每周有五天这样做,而我以前从未与调查员一起骑行过。
And I just continued to record notes and go along with it.
我只是继续记录笔记并配合它。
Pete and the Moms followed the fiance and the mistress for hours.
皮特和妈妈们跟踪了未婚夫和情妇几个小时。
They watched them shop for discount jewelry and then move onto a Napa restaurant called the Rutherford Grill.
他们看着他们购买打折珠宝,然后前往纳帕一家名为卢瑟福烧烤店的餐厅。
The subject and the mystery date parked their car.
对象和神秘约会对象停好了车。
We parked right behind them.
我们把车停在他们后面。
They walk right in front of our van.
他们就走在我们的货车前面。
Denise is running a video camera through the front window of the van, and they stop right in front of the van to kiss.
丹妮丝正在通过货车前窗运行摄像机,他们就停在货车前面接吻。
I mean, five feet in front of us.
我的意思是,在我们前面五英尺处。
Point blank, yeah.
空白,是的。
A big, bulky camera, too.
还有一个大而笨重的相机。
Not some sort of hidden camera.
不是某种隐藏的相机。
It was a lovely day-- the kind of day that brings people out to Napa-- and the restaurant was packed.
这是美好的一天——人们会在这样的日子来到纳帕——餐厅里挤满了人。
Turned out the only place for the PI Moms to sit was a communal table, where, as it happened, the fiance was already seated, hoping to feed his mistress French fries.
结果PI妈妈们唯一能坐的地方是一张公共桌子,碰巧未婚夫已经坐在那里,希望给他的情妇吃炸薯条。
And so the investigators and Pete wound up essentially having lunch with their targets.
因此,调查人员和皮特最终与他们的目标共进午餐。
Again, Pete wondered if their cover could be blown by being that close.
皮特再次怀疑,距离如此之近是否会暴露他们的伪装。
So close that Pete had to say hello to the mistress as they sat down, and then listen to their lunchtime chatter.
如此亲密以至于皮特不得不在他们坐下时向女主人打招呼,然后听他们午餐时的闲聊。
Their conversation was lurid.
他们的谈话很耸人听闻。
The fellow kept saying, boy, you look hot today.
那家伙一直说,小伙子,你今天看起来很帅。
She says, yeah, I'm hot.
她说,是的,我很热。
I'm sweating.
我出汗了。
And he says, I'd like to lick that sweat off of you.
他说,我想舔掉你身上的汗水。
And she goes, oh, yeah, I'd like that.
她说,哦,是的,我愿意。
But like, just without any passion whatsoever.
但就像,只是没有任何热情。
And then she says, I was thinking about going horseback riding tomorrow.
然后她说,我正在考虑明天去骑马。
And he goes, yeah, where do you go horseback riding?
他说,是的,你去哪里骑马?
And she says, oh, I've got some friend who has a stables out in Bullinger Canyon.
她说,哦,我有一个朋友在布林格峡谷有一个马厩。
And he says, is that near where we got that hotel room that night?
他说,那是我们那天晚上住酒店房间的地方附近吗?
That was a wild night.
那是一个疯狂的夜晚。
So he always kind of turns the conversation back to sex talk, and she kind of goes off talking about horseback riding or whatever.
所以他总是把话题转回性话题,而她则开始谈论骑马之类的话题。
It was very bizarre, and it just sounded like, if this is what infidelity is-- there's just no passion or substance to it whatsoever.
这非常奇怪,听起来就像是,如果这就是不忠的话——那么它就没有任何激情或实质内容。
And the client back in the East Bay is better off without this guy.
没有这个人,东湾的客户会过得更好。
Meanwhile, Denise and Charmagne were ordering burgers and ribs, and not really paying attention to the conversation.
与此同时,丹妮丝和查玛尼正在点汉堡和排骨,并没有真正注意谈话。
And we all sort of scarfed down burgers and ribs, and it was just like a very casual lunch.
我们都狼吞虎咽地吃了汉堡和排骨,这就像一顿非常休闲的午餐。
And nobody seemed to be concerned at the awkward situation except myself.
除了我自己之外,似乎没有人关心这种尴尬的局面。
I know.
我知道。
This sounds fake.
这听起来很假。
And that's because it is fake-- fakety fake, totally fake.
那是因为它是假的——假的假的,完全假的。
And the only person who doesn't know it's fake, at this point, is Pete.
目前,唯一不知道这是假的的人是皮特。
Everything else-- the mistress, the crying client, the hot, hot horse-ridey sex talk, the affair itself, has been meticulously choreographed by Chris Butler.
其他一切——情妇、哭泣的客户、热辣的骑马性爱谈话、外遇本身,都是克里斯·巴特勒精心设计的。
You know, one thing I will say-- Chris was very, very good at reading people.
你知道,我要说的一件事是——克里斯非常非常擅长读人。
He knew how to read people, and he knew how to push the right buttons.
他知道如何读懂人,也知道如何按下正确的按钮。
He was very good at it.
他非常擅长。
This is Sharon Roof.
这是莎伦·屋顶。
She's the client-- the woman with a cheating fiance.
她是客户——那个未婚夫出轨的女人。
While most of the people playing roles in the fake case were actors or friends of Chris Butler, Sharon is interesting because she had actually hired Chris Butler and the PI Moms months earlier, to follow her real cheating fiancee, and they caught him.
虽然在假案中扮演角色的大多数人都是克里斯·巴特勒的演员或朋友,但莎伦很有趣,因为她实际上几个月前就雇用了克里斯·巴特勒和 PI Moms,来追踪她真正的出轨未婚妻,他们抓住了他。
She'd been impressed by Chris, and thought he was a nice guy.
她对克里斯印象深刻,认为他是个好人。
He'd gotten the truth for her, after all.
毕竟,他已经为她了解了真相。
And then he convinced her to come and work for him.
然后他说服她来为他工作。
Sharon agreed, doing mostly office management, until one day, Chris took Sharon to lunch and told her about this big upcoming feature in Diablo magazine.
莎伦同意了,主要负责办公室管理,直到有一天,克里斯带莎伦去吃午饭,并告诉她暗黑破坏神杂志即将推出的这一重要专题。
And he asks me, he goes, are you comfortable?
他问我,他走了,你舒服吗?
I'd like to use your story.
我想用你的故事。
By "use her story," Chris meant he wanted to reenact her case.
克里斯所说的“利用她的故事”是指他想重演她的案件。
Sharon was skeptical at first, but eventually she agreed.
莎伦起初持怀疑态度,但最终还是同意了。
So then we sat down, you know, all of us, in the conference room, going over, OK, so this is what's going to happen.
然后我们所有人都在会议室坐下来讨论,好吧,这就是将要发生的事情。
And then he starts changing the story.
然后他开始改变故事。
And I pulled him aside.
我把他拉到一边。
I said, Chris, why are you changing the story?
我说,克里斯,你为什么要改变故事?
And he said, well, it's not exciting enough.
他说,好吧,这还不够令人兴奋。
Your story isn't exciting enough, and I want to just make it more exciting.
你的故事不够精彩,我想让它更精彩。
So then everything started changing.
然后一切都开始改变。
So it's like, OK.
所以就像是,好吧。
Now we're play acting.
现在我们在演戏。
And I really didn't feel comfortable with it.
我真的对此感到不舒服。
But then he said, you know, Sharon, think about all the women that you'd be helping.
但后来他说,你知道,莎伦,想想你要帮助的所有女性。
All these women that their husbands, their boyfriends cheat on them, and you know, blah, blah, blah.
所有这些女人的丈夫、男朋友都欺骗了她们,你知道,等等,等等。
So I did.
所以我做到了。
I went along with it.
我也同意了。
But for the drama to work, Chris wanted Sharon to nail the emotional heart of the performance.
但为了让这部戏剧成功,克里斯希望莎伦能够抓住表演的情感核心。
Chris told me-- he said, Sharon, he goes, just go back in time to when you came to me those couple months ago, when Michael was cheating on you.
克里斯告诉我——他说,莎伦,他走了,回到几个月前你来找我的时候,当时迈克尔欺骗了你。
And that's where your head's at when you come in and talk to Peter.
当你进来和彼得谈话时,你的头脑就在这个位置。
So that's exactly where my head was at.
这正是我的想法所在。
So those tears were real.
所以那些眼泪是真实的。
Everything was real.
一切都是真实的。
It was like I was reliving the same conversation I had with Chris when I came to first meet him.
就好像我正在重温第一次见到克里斯时与他进行的同样的对话。
And so there was Pete.
于是就有了皮特。
An audience of one for Chris Butler's production, which only got more intricate as the day wore on, with an expanding cast of characters and plot-enhancing cameos.
克里斯·巴特勒 (Chris Butler) 的作品吸引了大批观众,随着时间的推移,这部作品变得更加复杂,角色阵容不断扩大,客串情节也不断加强。
Such as this moment, when Pete and the Moms were approached by a car.
比如这一刻,皮特和妈妈们被一辆汽车驶近。
This souped-up black, late model Mustang zips in and parks next to us, and this married couple gets out.
这辆加强型黑色新款野马驶入并停在我们旁边,这对已婚夫妇下了车。
A second team of investigators.
第二组调查员。
Here is one of those investigators, Carl Marino, an actor and model from San Francisco.
这是其中一位调查员卡尔·马里诺 (Carl Marino),他是一位来自旧金山的演员兼模特。
We drove over, pulled up with a flourish in front of them, with a nice, shiny black Mustang.
我们开车过去,在他们面前停了下来,停着一辆漂亮、闪亮的黑色野马。
Of course we got out all Hollywood style with the sunglasses on, and dressed to the T.
当然,我们戴上墨镜,穿上了好莱坞风格的T恤。
Carl and his wife that day were playing backup investigators.
那天卡尔和他的妻子扮演的是后备调查员。
A good-looking rapid strike force.
一支好看的快速打击部队。
They went in, sat next to the couple, shared some wine, and texted reports back to Pete and the Moms about how friendly everyone was getting.
他们走进去,坐在这对夫妇旁边,分享了一些酒,并向皮特和妈妈们发短信报告每个人都变得多么友好。
The first text said, "Made contact with subject." The second text said, "We are talking to them and taking pics together." The third text said, "They are drunk," and the fourth text said, "They just invited us back to their hotel." So within half an hour, 45 minutes of wine tasting with strangers, they've invited them to come swing at a hotel.
第一条短信说:“与对象取得了联系。”第二条短信说:“我们正在与他们交谈并一起拍照。”第三条短信说:“他们喝醉了”,第四条短信说:“他们刚刚邀请我们回到他们的酒店。”因此,在与陌生人一起品酒的半小时(45 分钟)内,他们邀请他们来酒店玩。
So that escalated pretty fast, sounds like.
所以听起来升级得很快。
Yeah.
是的。
Joshuah Bearman Again, here's Carl.
Joshuah Bearman 卡尔又来了。
And that was something that wasn't planned out.
那是没有计划好的事情。
That was something Chris kind of threw in there.
这是克里斯扔进去的东西。
And he was telling me what to text them.
他告诉我该给他们发什么短信。
Oh, that a snap decision, right there?
哦,这是一个仓促的决定,对吗?
Chris is like, let's just change this up a little bit?
克里斯说,我们稍微改变一下吧?
The next level turned out to be a Holiday Inn Express parking lot.
下一层原来是智选假日酒店的停车场。
Once everyone was there-- the cheating couple, the other couple, the minivan with the PI Moms-- Pete found out that Chris was en route with the last person you'd want there.
当所有人都到齐后——出轨的夫妇、另一对夫妇、PI Moms 的小型货车——皮特发现克里斯正和你最不想见到的人一起去那里。
The client, Sharon.
客户,莎伦。
Here's Pete again.
皮特又来了。
She now wants to see this with her own eyes, and so he is driving up to Napa with the client.
她现在想亲眼看到这一点,所以他和客户一起开车去纳帕。
And at this point, I said, Charmagne, that's a terrible idea.
在这一点上,我说,查玛涅,这是一个糟糕的主意。
At one point, there was concern that Peter didn't believe it.
有一次,有人担心彼得不相信这一点。
So there was talk in the car that OK, we've got to make this good, because Peter is very suspicious.
所以车里有人说,好吧,我们必须把这件事做好,因为彼得非常可疑。
Some of this stuff just doesn't sound right to him.
有些东西对他来说听起来不太对劲。
So we have to be very convincing.
所以我们必须非常有说服力。
Sharon was to have a big final scene, where she would look in the trunk of the car, see the fake presents her fake fiance had bought for his fake mistress, and then, right there in the parking lot, Sharon would have a real meltdown.
莎伦将有一个大的最后一幕,她会在汽车后备箱中查看,看到她的假未婚夫为他的假情妇买的假礼物,然后,就在停车场,莎伦会真正崩溃。
And then I just closed my eyes and I just thought about Michael.
然后我闭上眼睛,只想着迈克尔。
And it made it that much easier for me to get all upset.
这让我更容易心烦意乱。
You just went into the zone.
你刚刚进入该区域。
Carl Marino I did.
Carl Marino I did.
I did.
我做到了。
And then, you know--
然后,你知道——
I got out of the car.
我下了车。
The car barely was in park and I ran out.
车子刚停稳,我就跑了出去。
Runs over to her car, opens the trunk, looks in the gift bag to see what kind of jewelry her fiance had bought his mistress, and then she just collapses into a heap of tears in the trunk of her car.
跑到她的车前,打开后备箱,翻看礼品袋,看看她的未婚夫给他的情妇买了什么样的珠宝,然后她就瘫倒在车后备箱里,泪流满面。
She actually falls into the trunk of the car?
她竟然掉进了汽车后备箱里?
Just crying.
只是哭了。
Just her upper body and her head just sort of disappear into the trunk of the car in this exhausted heap of humiliation.
在这疲惫不堪的羞辱中,她的上半身和头几乎消失在汽车后备箱里。
It was very awkward.
非常尴尬。
Actually, somebody told me later that Peter was so upset about me that he couldn't watch.
事实上,后来有人告诉我,彼得对我感到非常不安,以至于他无法观看。
And I guess he went to go get a coffee at a Starbucks or something.
我猜他是去星巴克什么的去喝咖啡了。
So I don't even know if he saw any of my performance.
所以我什至不知道他是否看过我的表演。
You were just doing it for yourself.
你只是为了自己而做。
Like, the audience wasn't even there.
就像,观众甚至都不在场。
Yeah, I mean, I didn't notice who was around to be honest.
是的,我的意思是,老实说我没有注意到周围有谁。
But then somebody told me that Peter was here, and then I felt bad that Peter was upset.
但后来有人告诉我彼得在这里,然后我为彼得的不安感到难过。
Because you think a reporter is immune to this, because you do this all day long.
因为你认为记者对此免疫,因为你整天都这样做。
You see all this stuff that you're, you know, kind of like a doctor when you operate.
当你做手术时,你会看到所有这些东西,你知道,有点像医生。
You're used to it.
You're used to it.
But Peter had a heart.
但彼得有一颗心。
Here's Pete again.
皮特又来了。
Pete Crooks My story was to watch the PI Moms investigate, and not to dwell on this client's sadness or humiliation.
皮特·克鲁克斯(Pete Crooks):我的故事是观看 PI Moms 的调查,而不是沉迷于这位客户的悲伤或羞辱。
And I had been craving a Starbucks for the past five, six hours, since I had seen the cheating couple go in.
自从看到那对作弊的夫妇进去后,我在过去的五六个小时里一直想喝一杯星巴克。
So I went over to the Starbucks and got myself a coffee.
所以我去了星巴克给自己买了一杯咖啡。
So while she's kind of regaining her composure, you just went and got, like, a Frappuccino or something?
所以当她恢复平静时,你就去买了一杯星冰乐之类的?
Yeah, I got a latte.
是的,我喝了一杯拿铁。
Joshuah Bearman By the time it was done, the stakeout had lasted eight hours.
约书亚·贝尔曼(Joshua Bearman) 到结束时,监视已经持续了八个小时。
And despite all the red flags, Pete still believed it all.
尽管存在所有危险信号,皮特仍然相信这一切。
Remember, these people had appeared in all kinds of news stories already.
请记住,这些人已经出现在各种新闻报道中了。
They'd been on the Today show.
他们上过《今日秀》。
Pete presumed they'd been vetted and fact-checked.
皮特推测它们已经过审查和事实核查。
And there was going to be a whole reality show about the Moms.
将会有一整套关于妈妈们的真人秀。
It was just about to start filming.
那时正好要开始拍摄。
So Pete went home that day thinking, this is awesome.
那天皮特回家后心想,这太棒了。
The desperate client.
绝望的客户。
The tender-yet-tough PI Moms.
温柔又坚强的PI妈妈们。
The sweat-licking.
The sweat-licking.
And he started writing up his story.
他开始写他的故事。
Until--
直到——
So this first email was sent on Monday, January 3, 2011 at 12:21 PM, with the subject line "Peter Crooks, Important, PI Moms." "Hi.
因此,第一封电子邮件于 2011 年 1 月 3 日星期一中午 12:21 发送,主题为“Peter Crooks,重要的是,PI Moms”。 “嗨。
I am writing this as a courtesy to you.
我写这篇文章是出于对你的礼貌。
It would be a mistake to publish the article on the PI Moms and Chris Butler that you came and did a story on a few months ago.
发表关于 PI Moms 和 Chris Butler 的文章是错误的,您几个月前曾来报道过。
Chris totally played you.
克里斯完全玩弄了你。
The case that you sat in on was totally scripted."
你参与的案件完全是有剧本的。”
Well, it was a message from somebody named Rutherford with an email account that you could easily make-- you know, it seemed to me that this person's name was not Rutherford.
嗯,这是一条来自一个名叫卢瑟福的人的消息,他有一个你可以轻松创建的电子邮件帐户——你知道,在我看来,这个人的名字不是卢瑟福。
It was somebody who had made up a new, Yahoo or Gmail account to contact me anonymously.
有人创建了一个新的雅虎或 Gmail 帐户来匿名联系我。
Pete's editors assumed the email was phony, written by someone with an axe to grind against Chris Butler.
皮特的编辑认为这封电子邮件是假的,是由一个恶意攻击克里斯·巴特勒的人写的。
It seemed farfetched that the entire case was an intricate conspiracy and all those people were actors.
整个案件是一个错综复杂的阴谋,而那些人都是演员,这似乎有些牵强。
And yet this Rutherford person knew so much detail that Pete had to take it seriously.
然而,这个卢瑟福人知道如此多的细节,以至于皮特不得不认真对待它。
He called one of the PI Moms, and she swore it was real.
他打电话给一位 PI Mom,她发誓这是真的。
Pete was still unsure, so he called Chris and confronted him directly.
皮特仍然不确定,所以他打电话给克里斯并直接与他对质。
And he just-- he screamed, "What!
他只是——他尖叫道:“什么!
That is BULLCRAP!" And honestly, I could-- I think in text sometimes, and I could see the all caps when he said "bullcrap."
那是胡言乱语!”老实说,我有时会在文字中思考,当他说“bullcrap”时,我可以看到全部大写。
Chris promised Pete proof.
克里斯向皮特保证提供证据。
He could show him it was real.
他可以向他证明这是真的。
But he never did.
但他从来没有这样做过。
Instead, he started dodging Pete's calls.
相反,他开始躲避皮特的电话。
Meanwhile, Pete and Rutherford kept emailing, with Rutherford feeding Pete information on Chris Butler, and Pete staying up late, trying to track people down on Facebook and piece it all together.
与此同时,皮特和卢瑟福不断发电子邮件,卢瑟福向皮特提供有关克里斯·巴特勒的信息,而皮特熬夜,试图在 Facebook 上追踪人们并将所有信息拼凑在一起。
About 3 o'clock in the morning, Rutherford sends me one that we've always called in Diablo ever since then the "smoking gun email." And it was the itinerary of our Napa adventure.
凌晨 3 点左右,卢瑟福给我发了一封从那时起我们在《暗黑破坏神》中一直称之为“确凿证据的电子邮件”。这就是我们纳帕探险的行程。
Suddenly Pete was looking at a timeline of his entire day with the PI Moms-- a detailed schedule sent to everyone who was there.
突然,皮特看到了他与 PI Moms 一起度过的一整天的时间表——一份发送给在场所有人的详细时间表。
It had the street addresses of the gym, of the Napa outlet store, the Rutherford Grill, of the winery, and of the Holiday Inn Express.
上面有健身房、纳帕专卖店、卢瑟福烧烤店、酒庄和智选假日酒店的街道地址。
In addition to that, it had a Google Earth photo showing an overhead view of the Holiday Inn Express with notes on it, saying, here's where the luxury car should park.
除此之外,它还有一张谷歌地球照片,显示了智选假日酒店的俯视图,上面写着:这里是豪华车应该停放的地方。
Here's where the mystery date and the fiance will walk into the Holiday Inn Express.
神秘约会对象和未婚夫将在这里走进智选假日酒店。
They'll walk--
他们会走路——
Now Pete was certain.
现在皮特可以肯定了。
He'd been a mark.
他曾经是一个标记。
As it happens, Pete's a big fan of film noir.
碰巧,皮特是黑色电影的忠实粉丝。
He knows all the classics backwards and forwards.
他对所有经典都了如指掌。
And he noted that this one didn't just start like all the good noirs, with the dame crying in the PI's office.
他指出,这部影片并不像所有优秀的黑色电影一样,一开始就是那位女士在 PI 的办公室里哭泣。
Pete had arrived at the inevitable turn where the protagonist falls down the rabbit hole of hidden forces and mysterious motivations, where you don't know who's in on the con and who isn't.
皮特已经到达了不可避免的转折点,主角掉进了隐藏力量和神秘动机的兔子洞,你不知道谁参与了骗局,谁不是。
Why would anyone go to such lengths to fool Diablo magazine?
为什么有人会不遗余力地愚弄《暗黑破坏神》杂志呢?
What was Chris up to?
克里斯在做什么?
And who was this anonymous source tipping him off?
这个匿名消息来源是谁向他通风报信的?
I tried to think of everything that could happen, would go wrong or could go wrong.
我试图思考所有可能发生、可能出错或可能出错的事情。
And at one point, I was just like, I have to take a chance.
有一次,我就想,我必须抓住机会。
This is Rutherford.
这是卢瑟福。
If his voice is familiar, it's because you've heard him before.
如果他的声音很熟悉,那是因为你以前听过他。
The guy sending Pete those emails was Carl Marino, the backup investigator.
向皮特发送这些电子邮件的人是备用调查员卡尔·马里诺。
You know, handsome guy.
你知道吗,帅哥。
Black Mustang, sunglasses, dressed to the T, supposedly entertaining a foursome with the cheating couple?
黑色野马,戴着墨镜,穿着得体,据说是和这对出轨的情侣一起招待四人组?
That guy.
那个家伙。
Carl had met Chris Butler a couple years earlier, not long after he moved to San Francisco.
几年前,卡尔搬到旧金山后不久,就认识了克里斯·巴特勒。
Carl had answered an ad on Craigslist looking for someone with law enforcement and acting experience.
卡尔回复了 Craigslist 上的一则广告,寻找具有执法和表演经验的人。
Perfect, Carl thought.
完美,卡尔想。
He was a former sheriff's deputy, and had started doing local acting work.
他是前副警长,并开始在当地从事表演工作。
The two of them, both former cops, hit it off right away.
他们两人都是前警察,一拍即合。
Eventually Carl became a central part of Butler's team.
最终卡尔成为巴特勒团队的核心成员。
He was given the title "Director of Operations." And he realized that this wasn't the usual PI firm.
他被授予“运营总监”的头衔。他意识到这不是一般的 PI 公司。
There were real cases, like cheating spouses.
有真实的案例,比如配偶出轨。
There were performances staged for the media, like the thing with Pete.
有为媒体举办的表演,就像皮特的表演一样。
And then there were all kinds of weird things somewhere in between.
然后中间还有各种奇怪的事情。
Because that's how Chris operated.
因为这就是克里斯的运作方式。
Even when people came in with actual problems, he would spin some fabrication around them, layering real over fake over real.
即使当人们带着实际问题进来时,他也会围绕他们编造一些故事,将真实的事情叠加在虚假的事情之上。
He made stuff up when there was no reason to make anything up, And that's how simple situations often escalated.
当没有理由编造任何事情时,他就编造一些东西,这就是简单的情况经常升级的原因。
One of the best examples of this is the case of the Candyman.
Candyman 的案例就是最好的例子之一。
Again, here's Carl.
卡尔又来了。
The mother came in with basically a blue ecstasy pill and said, I think my son's selling drugs.
母亲带着一粒蓝色摇头丸走进来,说:“我认为我儿子在卖毒品。”
I found this.
我找到了这个。
This began as a real case when a woman came to Chris Butler with suspicions that her 19 year old son was selling drugs at college.
这是一个真实的案件,一名女子怀疑她 19 岁的儿子在大学贩毒,于是找到克里斯·巴特勒。
Exhibit A was a pill that his mom found in his room.
证物 A 是他妈妈在他房间里发现的一颗药丸。
Exhibit B might have been that his friends called him the Candyman.
证据 B 可能是他的朋友们称他为“糖果人”。
Anyhow, it could have been a simple job.
无论如何,这可能是一项简单的工作。
Follow the kid, videotape him selling X to college students, and the mom will have her proof.
跟踪这个孩子,录下他向大学生推销X的视频,妈妈就会有证据。
But that wasn't enough for Chris.
但这对克里斯来说还不够。
And Chris basically said, well, we can not only do that, but how about not only do we find out if he's selling drugs, but we set him up in a way where he'll never want to do it again?
克里斯基本上说,好吧,我们不仅可以这样做,而且我们不仅可以查出他是否在贩卖毒品,而且还可以让他永远不想再这样做,怎么样?
Chris's plan was to have the kid arrested-- or rather, fake arrested-- by Chris and his pals, who would then threaten him with jail time.
克里斯的计划是让克里斯和他的朋友逮捕这个孩子——或者更确切地说,假逮捕他,然后威胁他入狱。
You know, scare him straight.
你知道,直接吓唬他。
Incredibly his mom, the client, thought this was a great idea.
令人难以置信的是,他的客户妈妈认为这是个好主意。
So Chris planned an elaborate operation over several weeks, starting with phase one-- initial contact.
因此克里斯计划在几周内进行一次精心策划的行动,从第一阶段——初步接触开始。
He sent these two female decoys to the supermarket.
他把这两个雌性诱饵送到了超市。
Called the mother.
给妈妈打了电话。
Told the mother, send your son to the supermarket to buy chicken or whatever.
告诉妈妈,送儿子去超市买鸡肉什么的。
By decoys, Carl means young, attractive women Chris would hire through Craigslist to play temptresses.
卡尔所说的诱饵,是指克里斯通过 Craigslist 雇佣的年轻、有魅力的女性来扮演诱惑者。
The story cooked up by Chris was that these two girls would meet the kid in the grocery store near the chicken, where they would flirt with him by asking for his expertise about the chicken, and then propose a date with both of them.
克里斯编造的故事是,这两个女孩会在鸡附近的杂货店遇见那个孩子,在那里他们会通过询问他对鸡的专业知识来与他调情,然后向他们两人提出约会。
Together.
一起。
Carl Marino Yeah.
卡尔·马里诺 是的。
Both of them would go out on a date with him together, and I believe they went bowling or something like that.
他们两个都会和他一起出去约会,我相信他们还去打保龄球之类的。
And during the course of this date, they would tell him that there's a party coming up soon that they want him to come to.
在这次约会期间,他们会告诉他很快就要举办一个聚会,他们希望他参加。
They would insinuate that they like to hook up together, and how much they like this guy.
他们会暗示他们喜欢勾搭在一起,以及他们有多喜欢这个家伙。
And they would make out with the guy and stuff, too.
他们也会和那个家伙亲热。
These decoys, Chris would find decoys that had no problem doing that.
这些诱饵,克里斯会找到这样做没有问题的诱饵。
Wow.
哇。
And was it Chris's idea to like, you know, let's make this a threeway, that'll be more exciting?
克里斯的想法是喜欢,你知道,让我们把它做成三人行,这样会更令人兴奋吗?
Always.
总是。
He would throw that in all the time.
他总是会把它扔进去。
Chris Butler was never the type to worry about gilding the lily.
克里斯·巴特勒从来都不是那种担心画蛇添足的人。
He had his decoys invite this kid to a party hosted by a third girl, a friend of theirs, who, of course, was a lingerie model.
他让他的诱饵邀请这个孩子参加由第三个女孩举办的派对,她是他们的朋友,当然,她是一名内衣模特。
They intimated that this party would be so fun, they'd all wind up in bed together.
他们暗示这个聚会会很有趣,最后他们都会一起躺在床上。
It was a natural progression-- chicken, bowling, group sex at a party with lingerie models.
这是一个自然的过程——吃鸡、打保龄球、在派对上与内衣模特进行群交。
Phase two, a Butler-style twist on the classic honey trap, was nearly complete.
第二阶段是对经典美人计的巴特勒式改造,已经接近完成。
And with the hook baited, the girls yanked the line.
鱼钩上好饵后,女孩们猛拉鱼线。
The party is off, they told the kid.
聚会结束了,他们告诉孩子。
It was going to be an ecstasy party, and their dealer flew the coop.
这将是一场狂欢派对,但他们的经销商却逃跑了。
Such a bummer, right?
真是太糟糕了,对吧?
No ecstasy, so no party, I guess.
我想,没有狂喜,所以没有聚会。
He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on.
他就像,哇,哇,哇,哇,坚持住,坚持住。
Don't worry about it.
别担心。
I can get this stuff.
我可以得到这个东西。
Really?
真的吗?
Can you?
你可以吗?
Great.
伟大的。
Thank you.
谢谢。
I mean, they were talking to the Candyman, after all.
我的意思是,毕竟他们是在和糖果人说话。
And so, just as planned, the kid walked right into Chris's trap, arriving at phase three.
于是,正如计划中的那样,孩子径直走进了克里斯的陷阱,来到了第三阶段。
We set it up in the parking lot of the Narcotics Task Force office.
我们把它安置在缉毒特遣队办公室的停车场。
This is a key detail.
这是一个关键细节。
Carl is referring to the Contra Costa County Narcotics Enforcement Task Force, also called CNET.
Carl 指的是康特拉科斯塔县禁毒执法特别工作组,也称为 CNET。
CNET was the top drug enforcement agency in the county, and the guy who ran it was Norm Wielsch.
CNET 是该县最高的缉毒机构,负责人是诺姆·维尔施 (Norm Wielsch)。
Chris Butler was friends with a lot of cops, but Norm was the biggest.
克里斯·巴特勒是很多警察的朋友,但诺姆是其中最大的。
They'd actually been in the same department years earlier.
事实上,他们几年前就在同一个部门。
And now Norm and Chris started collaborating on Chris's operations.
现在,诺姆和克里斯开始在克里斯的运营上进行合作。
It was a strange extracurricular activity for Norm, since Chris's operational whimsies were often illegal, like the elaborate fake bust that was about to happen in the parking lot of Norm's police agency.
对于诺姆来说,这是一项奇怪的课外活动,因为克里斯的奇思妙想往往是非法的,就像诺姆警察局停车场即将发生的精心制作的假半身像一样。
Chris actually had one of the other investigators on the radio with a script.
克里斯实际上让广播中的另一名调查员拿着剧本。
So when he called dispatch, she was going to be dispatch.
所以当他打电话给调度时,她就要去调度了。
Because he was going to be running the license plate numbers, running the kid's name.
因为他要记录车牌号码,记录孩子的名字。
And she would be calling back like it was a police dispatch over the radio.
她会像警察通过无线电调度一样回电。
So it looked very authentic.
所以看起来非常正宗。
Chris also had the hummer with the strobe lights on it, the flashing strobe lights.
克里斯还拥有一辆带有频闪灯的悍马车,闪烁的频闪灯。
And Norm was going to come driving up in that with the strobe lights going so it looked like a police vehicle pulling up.
诺姆将开着那辆车过来,闪光灯亮着,看起来就像一辆警车停了下来。
So Norm, A real police officer, is going to be driving in a fake police vehicle, but in the real parking lot of the police headquarters.
所以诺姆,一个真正的警察,将驾驶一辆假警车,但在警察总部的真实停车场。
Yes.
是的。
Joshuah Bearman OK.
约书亚·贝尔曼 好的。
Just to keep it all straight.
只是为了保持一切正常。
Remember, this kid was supposed to be a drug dealer.
请记住,这个孩子应该是毒贩。
They didn't need to do any of this.
他们不需要做任何这些。
They could've just followed him and filmed him.
他们本可以跟踪他并拍摄他。
Instead, they now have a real kid selling real drugs to amateur actresses hired off Craigslist for real cash.
相反,他们现在有一个真正的孩子,向从 Craigslist 雇佣的业余女演员出售真正的毒品,以获取真正的现金。
Then they all get busted by Chris and his buddies pretending to be cops, alongside Norm, a real cop, who's driving Chris's fake police car.
然后他们都被克里斯和他假装成警察的哥们抓获,还有诺姆,一个真正的警察,开着克里斯的假警车。
Again, here's Carl.
卡尔又来了。
And my job was to run around the front of the car, hold this kid at gunpoint.
我的工作就是绕着车头跑,用枪指着这个孩子。
The other guy was going to go to the other side of the car.
另一个人正要去车的另一边。
Chris was going to come running out of the bushes with the guns drawn.
克里斯准备拔出枪从灌木丛中跑出来。
And now, the guns are not loaded, presumably.
现在,枪大概还没有装弹。
No. The guns were not loaded.
不,枪没有装弹。
Except for Norm, Norm had his real gun, but he didn't draw it.
除了诺姆之外,诺姆有他的真枪,但他没有拔出来。
It was just in case something bad happened, obviously, in case this kid did have a gun or something.
显然,这是为了以防万一发生不好的事情,以防这个孩子确实有枪什么的。
But that's what Norm was there for.
但这正是 Norm 存在的目的。
Oh yeah.
哦,是的。
And just to make this more interesting, Chris filmed the whole thing.
为了让这一切变得更有趣,克里斯拍摄了整个过程。
Carl showed me the footage.
卡尔给我看了录像。
Is that Norm?
那是规范吗?
Carl Marino That's Norm right there, yes.
卡尔·马里诺 是的,这就是常态。
Look at this poor kid.
看看这个可怜的孩子。
He looks like such a goof, on top of it.
最重要的是,他看起来像个傻瓜。
Yeah.
是的。
He was.
他是。
And he's a kid.
而且他还是个孩子。
And his eyes were giant when he had those guns in his face, and he was terrified.
当那些枪指着他的脸时,他的眼睛睁得很大,他感到害怕。
Rightfully so.
理所当然。
I mean, I would have been terrified if that was me.
我的意思是,如果那是我的话,我会感到害怕。
It's kind of like a mesh pullover thing that you can throw over the side.
它有点像网状套头衫,您可以将其扔到一边。
And we actually made a joke too, about that.
我们实际上也就此开了个玩笑。
That maybe he'd be in his rollerblades on the pier a little bit later.
也许稍后他就会穿着旱冰鞋出现在码头上。
Yeah.
是的。
It looks like the kind of thing where he'd come to the door and be like, ma'am, you're under arrest, and then put down the stereo and start stripping.
看起来就像是他走到门口说,女士,你被捕了,然后放下音响,开始脱衣。
Yes.
是的。
Exactly.
确切地。
Joshuah Bearman Chris had two cameras running for better coverage.
约书亚·贝尔曼·克里斯(Joshuah Bearman Chris)使用了两台摄像机来进行更好的报道。
He wanted to document the day and use the video for his sizzle reel.
他想记录下这一天,并将这段视频用于他的嘶嘶声卷轴。
That's the trailer used to sell shows to TV networks.
这是用于向电视网络销售节目的预告片。
And it worked.
它奏效了。
When Chris showed this to Lifetime, part of hooked the network on the PI Moms was the takedown of the Candyman.
当克里斯向《Lifetime》展示这一点时,《PI Moms》网络上的部分内容就是对 Candyman 的打倒。
In truth, Chris was perfect for reality TV.
事实上,克里斯非常适合真人秀节目。
He was a flamboyant character and a master manipulator.
他性格浮夸,是一位操纵大师。
Someone who had already been living his life as though he was the star of a show always running in his mind.
一个已经过着自己生活的人,就好像他是一场始终在他脑海中运行的演出的明星一样。
So it made sense that cable celebrity was the pot of gold at the end of his counterfeit rainbow.
因此,有线电视名人是他假冒彩虹尽头的第一桶金,这是有道理的。
It was all geared toward getting this TV show and him becoming this Dog the Bounty Hunter-type reality star.
这一切都是为了让这个电视节目让他成为赏金猎人类型的真人秀明星。
I just think he thought somehow that he deserved to be famous.
我只是认为他认为他应该出名。
Like any good reality producer, Chris understood the magic of story editing-- how blending some truth with fiction goes a long way.
和任何优秀的真人秀制作人一样,克里斯了解故事编辑的魔力——将真实与虚构融合在一起会大有帮助。
Oh yeah.
哦,是的。
He was always able to legitimize it somehow.
他总是能够以某种方式使其合法化。
And I fell into that in a few things, too.
我在一些事情上也陷入了这种困境。
Because there were a lot of times where things we would do, while not quite illegal, kind of had that dirty, immoral kind of feel to them.
因为很多时候我们所做的事情虽然不完全违法,但给人一种肮脏、不道德的感觉。
And even when I would bring that up to Chris, like, should we really be doing this?
即使当我向克里斯提出这个问题时,我们真的应该这样做吗?
He would always find a way.
他总能找到办法。
Well, you know, because the commander of the Narcotics Task Force is involved, it's kind of like a police operation.
嗯,你知道,因为缉毒特遣队指挥官参与其中,所以这有点像警察行动。
So we are allowed to do this, because he's allowing us to do this, and so it's OK.
所以我们被允许这样做,因为他允许我们这样做,所以没关系。
And he always tried to interweave the whole business within the police organizations.
他总是试图将整个事务与警察组织交织在一起。
Several different police officers were his friends in different jurisdictions.
几位不同的警察是他在不同司法管辖区的朋友。
I mean, obviously the commander of the Narcotics Task Force being the highest level.
我的意思是,显然缉毒特遣部队的指挥官是最高级别的。
It was always one of those things where we can always do this, because we always have Uncle Norm who can cover for us.
这始终是我们始终可以做到的事情之一,因为我们总是有诺姆叔叔可以为我们提供掩护。
He did.
他做到了。
Joshuah Bearman In addition to Uncle Norm, there were other law enforcement types Chris drew into his schemes.
约书亚·贝尔曼 除了诺姆叔叔之外,克里斯还把其他执法人员纳入了他的计划中。
Like the real cops he had stinging unwitting people with DUIs, or the retired FBI guys who gave the PI Moms weapons training at a nearby police range.
就像真正的警察一样,他用酒后驾车刺伤不知情的人,或者是退休的联邦调查局人员在附近的警察靶场对 PI Moms 进行武器训练。
Chris even convinced Glock Firearms to endorse Butler and Associates, getting a bunch of free pistols and boxes of accessories.
克里斯甚至说服格洛克枪械公司支持巴特勒和同事公司,获得一堆免费手枪和一盒配件。
Another endorsement was Oakley, which somehow became the firm's official sunglasses, and UFC the official gym.
另一个代言是奥克利(Oakley),它以某种方式成为该公司的官方太阳镜,而 UFC 则成为官方健身房。
This was Chris's MO.
这就是克里斯的行事方式。
Creating a seemingly valid world with a veneer of legitimate symbols in a kind of lifestyle forgery.
以一种伪造的生活方式,创造一个看似有效的世界,表面上披着合法的符号。
And it was all in the interest of self-promotion.
而这一切都是为了自我推销。
Coming up.
即将到来。
We unpeel one more layer of the onion to reveal underneath all the fakery and pretense and self-promotion, real life crimes.
我们再剥开一层洋葱皮,揭露出所有虚假、伪装、自我推销和现实生活中的犯罪行为。
Josh Bearman returns with more in a minute from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International when our program continues.
当我们的节目继续进行时,乔希·贝尔曼 (Josh Bearman) 一分钟后会从芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台返回更多内容。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today we're devoting our entire program to one story, The Incredible Case of the PI Moms.
今天我们的整个节目都在讲述一个故事:《PI 妈妈的不可思议的案例》。
If you're just tuning in, this is a detective agency made of good-looking soccer moms created by a guy named Chris Butler, who would not confirm or deny any of this story for us.
如果你刚刚收看,这是一个由漂亮的足球妈妈组成的侦探机构,由一个名叫克里斯·巴特勒的人创建,他不会向我们证实或否认这个故事的任何内容。
His attorney did not return repeated phone calls.
他的律师多次拨打电话均未回复。
The PI Moms themselves declined to speak.
PI Moms 本人拒绝发言。
Josh Bearman picks up the story where we left off before the break.
乔什·贝尔曼 (Josh Bearman) 继续讲我们在休息前停下来的故事。
Chris was thinking big.
克里斯胸怀大志。
He had visions of a nationwide network of PI Moms franchise offices and detective schools, all with Carl at his side.
他的愿景是在全国范围内建立 PI Moms 特许经营办事处和侦探学校网络,所有这些都由卡尔支持。
And Carl was good with that, until he learned that Chris was expanding his operations into full-on crime.
卡尔对此很擅长,直到他得知克里斯正在将他的行动扩展到全面犯罪。
It was around the time the PI Moms started shooting their reality show with Lifetime.
就在那时,PI Moms 开始与 Lifetime 拍摄他们的真人秀节目。
Well, at one point during the early filming of the show, Chris Butler brought me into the warehouse, and brought me over to a case, and basically said to me, you live in San Francisco.
嗯,在节目早期拍摄期间的某个时刻,克里斯·巴特勒带我进入仓库,带我去看一个案件,基本上对我说,你住在旧金山。
You probably know people that smoke marijuana.
您可能认识吸食大麻的人。
I'm like, I think everybody I know smokes marijuana in San Francisco.
我想,我想我认识的每个人在旧金山都吸大麻。
It's kind of-- I started laughing.
有点——我开始笑了。
He goes, well, would you know people who would be interested in buying it?
他说,好吧,你认识有兴趣购买它的人吗?
I'm like, well, I know people that do smoke marijuana.
我想,嗯,我认识吸大麻的人。
I don't know who would buy or who doesn't.
我不知道谁会买,谁不会。
So he brings me over to this case, he opens it up, and I think there was nine pounds of marijuana wrapped in these plastic bags.
所以他把我带到这个箱子前,他打开它,我想这些塑料袋里包裹着九磅大麻。
Carl was taken aback.
卡尔吃了一惊。
But even more shocking was his second thought.
但更令人震惊的是他的第二个想法。
When he opened this case, it was one of those revelations where I immediately knew where they came from.
当他打开这个箱子时,我立刻就知道它们来自哪里,这是其中的一个启示。
Which he immediately confirmed by saying, well, I'm not going to say his name, but you know where this probably comes from.
他立即证实了这一点,说,好吧,我不会说出他的名字,但你知道这可能来自哪里。
And-- he wanted to refer to him as uncle.
而且——他想称呼他为叔叔。
And that's where he started-- not even Uncle Norm.
这就是他开始的地方——甚至诺姆叔叔也不是。
Just Uncle.
只是叔叔。
It's worth remembering here that Uncle Norm, now cleverly code named Uncle, was the top drug cop in the county.
值得记住的是,诺姆叔叔(现在巧妙地代号为叔叔)是该县的头号缉毒警察。
The guy you'd see on TV taking credit when there was a big drug bust where they'd show a table piled high with contraband.
你会在电视上看到一个在缉毒大案中看到一张桌子上堆满违禁品的人,他们以此为荣。
And now, Carl realized, Norm was stealing those same drugs from the evidence locker to recirculate them via Chris, who was extending a hand with a tightly wrapped pound to Carl.
现在,卡尔意识到,诺姆正在从证据柜中偷走同样的药物,并通过克里斯将它们重新流通,而克里斯正向卡尔伸出一只手,手里拿着一磅包裹得很紧的东西。
And it was one of those points in your life where you kind of feel almost trapped.
这是你生命中让你感觉几乎被困住的时刻之一。
And I remember thinking that I want to say no. I've never sold drugs in my life.
我记得当时我想拒绝。我这辈子从来没有卖过毒品。
I'm not a drug dealer.
我不是毒贩。
But at that point, I'm also kind of like, this is a situation where I'm already wrapped up in Chris Butler's business.
但在那一点上,我也有点像,在这种情况下,我已经全身心投入克里斯·巴特勒的生意了。
I know so much stuff about Chris Butler.
我对克里斯·巴特勒了解很多。
If I say no and give this back to him, it's going to be a personal insult to Chris Butler, first of all.
如果我拒绝并将这个还给他,首先这将是对克里斯·巴特勒的个人侮辱。
And it's going to be one of those things where I'm kind of scared if I say no.
如果我拒绝,这将是我有点害怕的事情之一。
I know what he's capable of.
我知道他有什么能力。
I've seen what he's capable of.
我已经看到了他的能力。
I mean, to the point where he was going to plant drugs on people in the past for clients.
我的意思是,他曾经为客户在过去的人身上植入毒品。
And I've watched him set so many people up.
我亲眼目睹他陷害了很多人。
I know Chris Butler will set me up somehow, to have some sort of leverage over me, so I don't give up his dirty secrets.
我知道克里斯·巴特勒会以某种方式陷害我,对我有某种影响力,所以我不会放弃他的肮脏秘密。
Carl takes a deep breath, says he'll try a cousin in San Jose, and takes the drugs home.
卡尔深吸了一口气,说他要试试圣何塞的表弟,然后把毒品带回家。
There he tells his wife, who says he has to go to the police.
在那里,他告诉妻子,妻子说他必须去报警。
But Carl has already thought about that.
但卡尔已经想到了这一点。
I'm like, who I go to?
我想,我去找谁?
This came from the Narcotics Task Force commander.
这句话来自缉毒特遣队指挥官。
She's like, what are you going to do?
她说,你要做什么?
Are you going to sell it?
你要卖掉它吗?
I'm like, no, I'm not going to sell it!
我想,不,我不会卖掉它!
Well, you're really stuck here.
好吧,你真的被困在这里了。
Because you don't know-- now you realize that there are dirty cops at a very high level.
因为你不知道——现在你意识到高层有肮脏的警察。
And Butler knows people everywhere.
巴特勒认识世界各地的人。
Yes.
是的。
So we sit and we discuss it for a while, and she's like, well, who do you go to?
所以我们坐下来讨论了一会儿,她说,好吧,你去找谁?
Do you just walk into the Concord Police Department and say hey, by the way, the PI down the street is selling drugs?
你是否只是走进康科德警察局并说嘿,顺便说一句,街上的 PI 正在贩卖毒品?
And I'm like, Chris Butler knows half the guys in the Concord Police Department.
我想,克里斯·巴特勒认识康科德警察局一半的人。
Who knows if they're involved.
谁知道他们是否参与其中。
I have no idea the level that this goes to.
我不知道这会达到什么水平。
I think about going to the District Attorney's office, but I know that Norm knows all those people.
我考虑去地方检察官办公室,但我知道诺姆认识所有这些人。
He's testified, I'm sure, numerous times.
我确信他已经作证过很多次了。
I have no idea who's tainted by this.
我不知道这件事玷污了谁。
Honestly, I'm stuck.
老实说,我被困住了。
I don't know where to go with it.
我不知道该去哪里。
Carl stalls for weeks.
卡尔停滞了好几个星期。
He's telling Chris that they have to wait for the buyer, making things up.
他告诉克里斯他们必须等待买家,捏造事实。
Chris puts on the pressure, saying that Norm is getting nervous and they want the money now.
克里斯施加压力,说诺姆变得紧张,他们现在想要钱。
So my wife and I go to the ATM that night and take out our own money.
所以那天晚上我和妻子去自动取款机取出了我们自己的钱。
And I pay Chris Butler for the pound of weed, and just tell him that this money came from our buyer down in San Jose.
我付钱给克里斯·巴特勒买一磅大麻,然后告诉他这笔钱来自我们在圣何塞的买家。
Which makes him very happy.
这让他非常高兴。
So you bought it.
所以你买了它。
Carl Marino Yeah.
卡尔·马里诺 是的。
I ended up being the buyer of the pound of weed.
我最终成为了这磅大麻的买家。
Just to kind of satisfy Chris, and just so I can kind of buy a little more time until we can figure out who to go to.
只是为了让克里斯满意,这样我就可以多争取一点时间,直到我们弄清楚该去找谁。
At that point, we go back to the office.
那时,我们回到办公室。
Since I did such a good job, here's another pound of weed.
既然我干得这么好,这里又来了一磅杂草。
So I have another pound of weed I take my house, and I put it with the original pound in my closet.
所以我把我的房子里又带了一磅杂草,我把它和原来的一磅杂草一起放进了我的衣柜里。
And my wife's like, what-- I can't afford to buy another pound of weed!
我的妻子说,什么——我买不起另一磅大麻了!
Carl was only getting himself in deeper.
卡尔只是让自己陷得更深。
Since he couldn't go to the cops, Carl thought about going to the local paper, but he worried that a reporter on the police desk might ask the wrong cop the wrong question, and tip off Norm and Chris anyhow.
由于无法报警,卡尔考虑去找当地报纸,但他担心警察办公桌上的记者可能会向错误的警察提出错误的问题,并无论如何都会向诺姆和克里斯通风报信。
So with limited options, Carl took the best one he saw-- the lifestyle reporter from the local glossy magazine.
因此,在选择有限的情况下,卡尔选择了他看到的最好的一个——当地时尚杂志的生活方式记者。
That's how Carl became Rutherford, reaching out to Pete and revealing that the stakeout was fake.
这就是卡尔成为卢瑟福的方式,他向皮特伸出援手,揭露监视是假的。
It was a way for Carl to test the waters with Pete, to see what he'd believe.
这是卡尔和皮特试水的一种方式,看看他会相信什么。
And when Pete started snooping around, it actually put Carl in a strange bind, because Chris got spooked and asked Carl, his trusted lieutenant, to do some damage control.
当皮特开始四处窥探时,这实际上让卡尔陷入了一个奇怪的困境,因为克里斯受到了惊吓,并要求他信任的副官卡尔进行一些损害控制。
Again, here's Carl.
卡尔又来了。
Chris decides, well, you've got to make sure.
克里斯决定,好吧,你必须确定一下。
Make sure you talk to Pete.
请务必与皮特交谈。
Give him a call and convince him that everything was real.
给他打电话,让他相信一切都是真的。
Like, being the director of operations and stuff.
比如,担任运营总监之类的。
So now I call Pete up on the phone-- as Carl Marino, obviously-- and I have an hour, hour and 20 minute talk with Pete, convincing him how everything was completely true.
所以现在我给皮特打电话——显然是卡尔·马里诺——我和皮特聊了一个小时、一个小时、二十分钟,让他相信一切都是完全正确的。
Going through every step of the way, and how, well, even though this might have seemed kind of funny, no, that was really real.
经历每一步,以及如何,好吧,尽管这可能看起来有点有趣,不,那是真的。
Because it really would've-- and I'm completely honest on that part of it, because those are all real things that could have happened.
因为它确实会发生——而且我对此部分完全诚实,因为这些都是可能发生的真实事情。
And at one point, I just want to say, Pete, I'm Ronald Rutherford, all right?
有一次,我只想说,皮特,我是罗纳德·卢瑟福,好吗?
So you're talking to him as Carl to convince him that it's true, while Rutherford is simultaneously, via email, trying to convince them that it's fake?
所以你以卡尔的身份与他交谈,让他相信这是真的,而卢瑟福同时通过电子邮件试图让他们相信这是假的?
Yes.
是的。
Joshuah Bearman Right.
约书亚·贝尔曼 对。
But then also, as Carl, you do want him to not think that it's Carl, because you want Rutherford to remain anonymous.
但同时,作为卡尔,你确实希望他不要认为是卡尔,因为你希望卢瑟福保持匿名。
So you're actually kind of glad to be on the phone with him as Carl, trying to convince him that it's real.
所以你实际上很高兴能以卡尔的身份与他通电话,试图让他相信这是真的。
Yes.
是的。
Joshuah Bearman So it took a while, but finally Carl trusted Pete enough to let him in on the much bigger, more serious scandal.
Joshuah Bearman 所以花了一段时间,但最终卡尔足够信任皮特,让他参与了更大、更严重的丑闻。
Here's Pete.
这是皮特。
I get this email from Rutherford that says, "I'm hesitant to tell you this.
我收到卢瑟福发来的电子邮件,上面写着:“我很犹豫是否要告诉你这一点。
Mr. Butler is involved in some serious criminal activity right now.
巴特勒先生目前参与了一些严重的犯罪活动。
Butler is very well-connected in the police community and with the Narcotics Task Force I am not sure who to contact about this, and I assure you that it is serious."
巴特勒在警察界和缉毒工作组中人脉非常广,我不知道该与谁联系这件事,但我向你保证,事情很严重。”
And this started to get at this nagging question I had, which is why is Rutherford telling me all this information?
这开始解决我一直困扰的问题,这就是卢瑟福为什么要告诉我所有这些信息?
It seemed like it was excessively helpful, as far as just protecting Diablo magazine and myself from writing a fake ride-along story for Chris Butler.
就保护《暗黑破坏神》杂志和我自己免于为克里斯·巴特勒写一个假的随行故事而言,这似乎非常有帮助。
But in my mind, I wondered, is there something that Rutherford needs to tell, and that's what it was?
但在我的脑海里,我想知道,卢瑟福是否需要讲述一些事情,而这就是事实?
So I wrote back and asked, what is this criminal activity?
所以我回信问,这是什么犯罪活动?
And Rutherford wrote back, "Butler is selling large amounts of marijuana along with other drugs, prescription Xanax and steroids, that have been confiscated by the Contra Costa County Task Force."
卢瑟福回信说:“巴特勒正在出售大量大麻以及其他药物、处方药 Xanax 和类固醇,这些药物已被康特拉科斯塔县特别工作组没收。”
Again, here's Carl.
卡尔又来了。
Carl Marino So I don't hear back for a little bit.
卡尔·马里诺:所以我有一段时间没有收到回复。
Of course, now I'm just frantic.
当然,现在我只是抓狂了。
Checking my email every ten seconds.
每十秒检查一次我的电子邮件。
Because it's like, where's this going to go?
因为这就像,这要去哪里?
Does he tell the wrong person?
他会告诉错误的人吗?
I have no idea what's going on at this point.
我不知道现在发生了什么。
At Diablo magazine, Pete Crooks covers culture and entertainment.
在《暗黑破坏神》杂志上,皮特·克鲁克斯负责报道文化和娱乐。
He writes a column called Pete's Popcorn Picks.
他撰写了一篇名为“皮特的爆米花精选”的专栏。
Crime is not his beat.
犯罪不是他的对手。
But it turned out that Carl had chosen the right confidant.
但事实证明,卡尔选对了知己。
Pete had a good police contact, a friend who put him in touch with the right people in law enforcement, and a full-on investigation started up.
皮特与警方有良好的联系,一位朋友让他与执法部门的合适人员取得了联系,全面的调查开始了。
The case got kicked up the chain of command on account of the dirty cops.
由于警察肮脏,此案被提上了指挥系统。
And soon enough, Carl became an undercover informant.
很快,卡尔成为一名卧底线人。
He wore a wire, sometimes two, recording not just sound but video.
他戴着一根电线,有时是两根,不仅记录声音,还记录视频。
For weeks, he led a double life.
几个星期以来,他过着双重生活。
Now he was staging fake drug deals, handing over cash for Chris's drugs, supposedly to resell in San Jose, while state Department of Justice investigators were stationed in the nearby van, or the bushes, or other tactical locations, watching it all.
现在,他正在策划虚假的毒品交易,用现金换取克里斯的毒品,据称是在圣何塞转售,而州司法部的调查人员则驻扎在附近的货车、灌木丛或其他战术地点,监视着这一切。
If that's not complicated enough, in the midst of all this, it's easy to forget that the reality show was now in full production.
如果这还不够复杂的话,那么在这一切之中,人们很容易忘记真人秀现在正在全面制作中。
There were two sets of cameras-- one for the DOJ and one for Lifetime-- and at times, they were filming the same people and places.
有两套摄像机——一套用于司法部,一套用于终身——有时,它们拍摄相同的人和地点。
There were so many overlapping storylines it was hard sometimes for Carl to keep it straight.
故事情节有太多重叠,有时卡尔很难理清思路。
Yes.
是的。
It was very surreal.
这是非常超现实的。
At one point, we would film on the one side, where the conference room was, in my office in the front, and Chris's office in the back.
有一次,我们会在会议室所在的一侧进行拍摄,前面是我的办公室,后面是克里斯的办公室。
And that's where most of the filming took place.
这就是大部分拍摄的地点。
And the Video Village setup was in the storage part, which was the other half, where Chris kept all of his equipment.
视频村的设置位于存储部分,也就是另一半,克里斯存放所有设备。
A few of the vehicles were there.
那里有几辆车。
And of course, the locked black case that had-- I think at this point it has 12 pounds of marijuana in it-- that the crew members are using as a chair to sit on.
当然,还有那个上锁的黑箱子——我想现在里面有 12 磅大麻——船员们用它作为椅子坐。
And I remember walking in there and it's like, wow.
我记得走进那里时感觉,哇。
How surreal is this?
这有多超现实?
Here's this production crew, filming this reality show in the other room, sitting on 12 pounds of marijuana they have no idea is locked in that case right now.
制作组在另一个房间拍摄真人秀,坐在 12 磅的大麻上,他们不知道现在被锁在那个箱子里。
That I'm doing undercover operations for the Department of Justice to sting Chris Butler.
我正在为司法部进行卧底行动,刺杀克里斯·巴特勒。
I'll be buying those 12 pounds, eventually.
我最终会买那12磅的。
Meanwhile, Chris's main worry was that he was being edged out of the reality show.
与此同时,克里斯主要担心的是他被挤出真人秀节目。
It turns out that some dude named Chris was simply not as exciting as sexy moms on the case.
事实证明,在这个案件中,一个名叫克里斯的家伙根本不像性感妈妈那么令人兴奋。
There was constant petty jealousy and small-time Machiavellian hijinks as everyone jockeyed for attention from the producers.
当每个人都在争夺制片人的注意力时,总是存在着小小的嫉妒和小小的马基雅维利式的狂欢。
When Chris realized he was not the star, he panicked.
当克里斯意识到自己不是明星时,他惊慌失措。
But the show itself was a disaster anyhow.
但无论如何,这部剧本身就是一场灾难。
Cases were falling apart, and everyone-- the Moms, Chris, Carl, and the producers-- blamed each other.
案件分崩离析,每个人——妈妈们、克里斯、卡尔和制片人——互相指责。
Part of the problem was that Chris had sold the show based on fake cases, and now there weren't enough real clients for the PI Moms to help.
部分问题在于克里斯根据虚假案例出售了节目,而现在没有足够的真实客户可供 PI Moms 提供帮助。
That may be where the drug deals came in.
这可能就是毒品交易的来源。
One person close to Chris says that he was desperate for money to stage more fake cases for Lifetime and rescue the show.
一位与克里斯关系密切的人士表示,他迫切需要资金来为《Lifetime》上演更多假案并挽救该剧。
But it was too late.
但为时已晚。
I've talked to people who worked on the program, and I can't use their names, but they said the whole thing was an insane mess.
我和参与这个项目的人谈过,我不能透露他们的名字,但他们说整件事简直一团糟。
And in early February, Lifetime pulled the plug.
二月初,Lifetime 终止了该项目。
The show was over.
演出结束了。
All this time, the drug deals started to feel more dangerous for Carl.
一直以来,毒品交易对卡尔来说都开始变得更加危险。
Chris was about to get his hands on some methamphetamine.
克里斯正要拿到一些冰毒。
Carl was getting increasingly paranoid.
卡尔变得越来越偏执。
At one point, Carl says, Chris even tried to set him up, sending an unmarked police car to sit in the alley behind his house before one of the drug buys.
卡尔说,有一次,克里斯甚至试图陷害他,派一辆没有标记的警车停在他家后面的小巷里,然后才购买毒品。
The next day, in an I-know-that-you-know-that-I-know conversation, Carl says that Chris basically admitted he had fired a warning shot.
第二天,在一次“我知道你知道我知道”的谈话中,卡尔说克里斯基本上承认他已经开枪警告。
But Carl still didn't know how much Chris knew.
但卡尔仍然不知道克里斯知道多少。
You know, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop with Chris.
你知道,我正在等待克里斯的另一只鞋掉下来。
If all of a sudden he finds out, I'm going to find myself going on a long ride into the woods somewhere.
如果他突然发现了,我会发现自己正在长途骑行,进入树林里的某个地方。
I've seen him set so many people up.
我见过他陷害了很多人。
And you'll never see it coming until it's already there.
在它已经存在之前,你永远不会看到它的到来。
By now, Carl had collected plenty of video of Chris selling drugs.
到目前为止,卡尔已经收集了大量克里斯贩卖毒品的视频。
But the DOJ only had Chris on camera, and nothing on Norm.
但司法部只拍到了克里斯,而没有拍到诺姆。
Then one day, Carl gets a sudden message from DOJ investigators.
然后有一天,卡尔突然收到司法部调查人员发来的一条消息。
They've been watching Chris, and Chris is on his way over to sell Carl the meth.
他们一直在监视克里斯,而克里斯正要去向卡尔推销冰毒。
But he's not alone.
但他并不孤单。
Norm is with him.
诺姆和他在一起。
This was a surprise.
这是一个惊喜。
Norm never showed up on these deals, and the unexpected change was suspicious.
诺姆从未出现在这些交易中,这种意外的变化令人怀疑。
So now at this point, I'm terrified.
所以现在这个时候,我很害怕。
Why is Norm coming back to the office?
诺姆为什么要回到办公室?
And at this point, I think the Department of Justice is terrified also.
在这一点上,我认为司法部也感到害怕。
Why is Norm coming back to the office?
诺姆为什么要回到办公室?
I get a frantic text message.
我收到一条疯狂的短信。
"They're coming back.
“他们回来了。
Hide the devices."
隐藏设备。”
This is from the DOJ people?
这是司法部人员发来的?
Carl Marino Yes.
卡尔·马里诺 是的。
So now I'm thinking, these guys are coming back to kill me right now.
所以现在我在想,这些家伙现在就要回来杀我了。
They have found out somehow.
他们已经以某种方式发现了。
And the first thing Norm would do, I know, when he comes in this room, he's going to pat search me, and he's going to find my devices.
我知道,当诺姆走进这个房间时,他要做的第一件事就是搜查我,他会找到我的设备。
So I'm frantically hiding them, trying to think of what's going to happen now.
所以我疯狂地把它们藏起来,试图思考现在会发生什么。
And I'm the only one in the office.
而且办公室里就我一个人。
I don't have a gun.
我没有枪。
Both of them do have guns, and they wear their guns all the time.
他们俩都有枪,而且一直戴着枪。
And so by hiding the devices, also, does that mean now the investigators can't hear you?
那么隐藏这些设备是否意味着调查人员现在听不到你的声音?
They don't know what's going on in there?
他们不知道里面发生了什么?
No, no. So yeah.
不,不。所以是的。
At this point, I think there's a chance I might die in this office.
此时此刻,我想我可能会死在这个办公室里。
Carl later learned that the DOJ had put snipers in position, just in case.
卡尔后来得知,司法部已经部署了狙击手,以防万一。
But Norm, it turned out, was not there to kill Carl, and neither was Chris.
但事实证明,诺姆并没有来杀死卡尔,克里斯也没有。
It was all a coincidence.
这一切都是巧合。
Norm had come with Chris that night so they could install a hidden camera in a coffee maker.
那天晚上,诺姆和克里斯一起来了,这样他们就可以在咖啡机里安装一个隐藏的摄像头。
Why would they need that?
他们为什么需要那个?
Carl didn't ask.
卡尔没有问。
He was just glad they weren't that interested in him.
他只是很高兴他们对他没那么感兴趣。
One of the biggest reliefs of my life, that moment when I realized, OK.
我一生中最大的解脱之一,就是那一刻我意识到,好吧。
I'm going to make it out of here today.
我今天就要离开这里。
So they get done talking about the coffeepot, and they're like, OK, you've got the money, right?
所以他们结束了关于咖啡壶的讨论,然后他们说,好吧,你有钱了,对吧?
Let's do this.
让我们这样做吧。
So I'm like, OK, sure.
所以我想,好吧,当然。
And at this point, I'm like, screw it.
在这一点上,我想,管它呢。
I'm going to film this, too.
我也要去拍这个
Because I've had enough of this.
因为我已经受够了这些。
I honestly don't want to do any more drug deals.
老实说,我不想再做任何毒品交易了。
I'm going to get them whatever they need.
我会为他们提供他们需要的一切。
So Carl went into the other room, retrieved one of his hidden video cameras, and got into position as Chris and Norm weighed out a pound of meth.
于是卡尔走进另一个房间,取出一个隐藏的摄像机,在克里斯和诺姆称出一磅冰毒时就位。
Carl taped them as they counted out $5000 in cash.
当他们数出 5000 美元现金时,卡尔将他们录了下来。
Chris and Norm never suspected a thing.
克里斯和诺姆从来没有怀疑过任何事情。
Mostly they joked about how the money wasn't in small bills.
他们大多开玩笑说这些钱不是小额钞票。
It was Carl's last performance as a low-level distributor.
这是卡尔作为低级经销商的最后一次表演。
That night, after it was all over, one of the DOJ cops even complimented him on his camera work.
那天晚上,一切结束后,一名司法部警察甚至称赞了他的摄影工作。
He told Carl it was the best footage they'd ever seen.
他告诉卡尔这是他们见过的最好的镜头。
Tonight the law enforcement community is stunned.
今晚执法界震惊了。
A narcotics cop and a private investigator both accused of selling drugs.
一名缉毒警察和一名私家侦探均被指控贩卖毒品。
Commander Norman Wielsch and his friend Christopher Butler were booked into the Contra Costa County Jail in Martinez this morning.
指挥官诺曼·维尔施和他的朋友克里斯托弗·巴特勒今天早上被关进马丁内斯的康特拉科斯塔县监狱。
Chris and Norm were both arrested the next day.
第二天,克里斯和诺姆双双被捕。
Between them, they were charged with 17 felony counts.
他们被指控犯有 17 项重罪。
They're both facing life in prison.
他们都面临终身监禁。
The indictment describes an assortment of other alleged crimes we haven't even heard about yet.
起诉书描述了一系列我们尚未听说过的其他涉嫌犯罪行为。
Like the happy ending massage parlor Chris and Norm are accused of running called My Divine Skin; and supposedly shaking down prostitutes they'd find on Craigslist.
就像幸福结局的按摩院一样,克里斯和诺姆被指控经营名为“我的神圣皮肤”的活动;据说还会勒索他们在 Craigslist 上找到的妓女。
Chris was arrested outside the UFC gym, where he immediately clammed up and asked for a lawyer.
克里斯在 UFC 体育馆外被捕,他立即闭嘴并要求聘请律师。
Norm, on the other hand-- well, here's Norm.
另一方面,规范——嗯,这是规范。
I'm taking full responsibility of what I did.
我对我所做的事承担全部责任。
I'm not-- again, I did wrong, and I expect to pay for it.
我不是——再说一遍,我做错了,我希望付出代价。
I know I'm going to have to go to jail and I've made peace with that.
我知道我将不得不入狱,但我已经接受了。
When Norm was arrested, he started crying and confessed right away.
当诺姆被捕时,他开始哭泣并立即认罪。
Since then, he's been cooperating with investigators.
从那时起,他一直与调查人员合作。
And yes, Norm took responsibility for what he did.
是的,诺姆对他所做的事情负责。
But during an interview in his lawyer's office with his wife by his side, he also laid out what he calls the mitigating factors that allowed Chris Butler to influence, and according to them, take advantage of Norm.
但在妻子在他身边的律师办公室接受采访时,他也列出了他所谓的缓解因素,这些因素使克里斯·巴特勒能够影响并据他们所说,利用诺姆。
Because of my ailments, let's say, I felt inside-- because I was always a big strong guy, you know, a big strong cop.
比方说,因为我的病痛,我内心感到——因为我一直是一个大而坚强的人,你知道,一个大而坚强的警察。
All of a sudden I get sick, and bam, there goes my health.
突然我生病了,然后我的健康就消失了。
So I'm no longer that big strong-- even though I'm putting up a good fake for people, I'm feeling like a shell of a man.
所以我不再那么强大了——尽管我为人们做了很好的假象,但我感觉自己就像一个男人的躯壳。
Also, his mother had died.
而且,他的母亲也去世了。
His daughter was sick.
他的女儿病了。
He was depressed and suffering from a disease that slowly deformed his hands and feet.
他心情郁闷,患有一种疾病,慢慢地让他的手脚变形了。
I couldn't really picture why that would matter, but they pressed it.
我真的无法想象为什么这很重要,但他们坚持这样做。
Show them your feet.
让他们看看你的脚。
Show them your foot.
让他们看看你的脚。
If you were to look at his foot-- I want you see it--
如果你看他的脚——我希望你看到它——
Norm didn't show me, but then the lawyer flashed me a photo of Norm's foot on a cell phone.
诺姆没有给我看,但随后律师给我看了一张手机上诺姆脚的照片。
Over 18 surgeries in the last ten years.
过去十年中进行了超过 18 次手术。
The feet were pretty gnarly.
脚非常粗糙。
I should mention, Norm really did sound like a guy who realized he had made a huge mistake and was reconsidering his whole life.
我应该提一下,诺姆听起来确实像是一个意识到自己犯了一个巨大错误并正在重新考虑自己一生的人。
Trying to understand how he could be so vulnerable to temptation.
试图了解他为何如此容易受到诱惑。
After all, the money was trivial.
毕竟钱是微不足道的。
Turns out it was only around $12,000.
结果只有 12,000 美元左右。
And Norm had a lot to lose-- more than anyone else, probably.
诺姆失去了很多——可能比其他人都多。
But he says it was Chris.
但他说是克里斯。
He was just so convincing.
他就是这么有说服力。
Whoever's talked to Chris knows that he has the gift of gab.
任何与克里斯交谈过的人都知道他有能说会道的天赋。
He could talk you into buying anything.
他可以说服你买任何东西。
I mean, I'm not blaming him.
我的意思是,我不是在责怪他。
But he had his way of coercing a little bit more, you know?
但他有他的方式来强迫更多一点,你知道吗?
Where if I would say, hey, that's a stupid idea, all of a sudden the golden tongue would come out, and then all of a sudden I'd be driving home, thinking, oh, that's not a bad idea.
如果我说,嘿,这是个愚蠢的主意,突然金舌头就会伸出来,然后突然我会开车回家,心想,哦,这不是一个坏主意。
While Norm blames Chris, Chris blames Norm.
当诺姆指责克里斯时,克里斯也指责诺姆。
Chris's lawyer has pointed out that Norm was the guy with the badge.
克里斯的律师指出,诺姆就是佩戴徽章的人。
Norm was the one who signed the drugs out of the evidence locker.
诺姆是从证据柜中签收毒品的人。
The lawyer says Norm was in charge.
律师称诺姆负责此事。
It was all his idea.
这都是他的主意。
Norm says no. Chris was the Svengali, the showman.
规范说不。克里斯是斯文加利(Svengali),表演者。
He was always buying lunch.
他总是买午餐。
He always insisted on buying lunch.
他总是坚持要买午餐。
And he'd pull out his credit card, and then he would bring some of girls there, and he would make sure that they were dressed all pretty and stuff.
他会拿出信用卡,然后带一些女孩去那里,他会确保她们穿得漂亮之类的。
There's a little theater to it, exactly.
确切地说,它有一个小剧院。
And then he would come in his black Mercedes.
然后他会开着他的黑色奔驰来。
And you're impressed.
你印象深刻。
You sit and go wow, you know?
你坐下来哇,知道吗?
But anyway, we--
但无论如何,我们——
Even now, in his lawyer's conference room, you could hear in Norm's voice that he still feels it little bit.
即使现在,在他的律师会议室里,你也可以从诺姆的声音中听出他仍然有一点这样的感觉。
That Chris had some kind of hold on him, as he did on so many other people.
克里斯对他有某种控制力,就像他对其他许多人一样。
It's obvious when you see Chris in action.
当你看到克里斯的行动时就很明显了。
Lifetime won't release the PI Moms footage, so all I've seen is that video of the Candyman bust, the one I watched with Carl Marino.
Lifetime 不会发布 PI Moms 的镜头,所以我看到的只是 Candyman 半身像的视频,我和 Carl Marino 一起观看的视频。
My favorite moment is not the bust itself, but when Chris is back in his office, presiding over his crew-- Norm, Carl, the two pretty girl decoys, and various other investigators.
我最喜欢的时刻不是半身像本身,而是当克里斯回到他的办公室,主持他的团队时——诺姆、卡尔、两个漂亮的女孩诱饵,以及其他各种调查员。
The bust has gone off without a hitch.
半身像顺利地消失了。
Someone even thought to bring champagne.
有人甚至想带香槟。
And Chris is recounting, in vivid detail, the glorious crescendo of his operation.
克里斯生动地详细讲述了他的行动的光荣高潮。
But it means you're not going to jail right now, so sit down.
但这意味着你现在不会入狱,所以坐下吧。
They're are hanging on Chris, reveling in his encore performance of the special scenes his team couldn't see, where he and Norm played a little good cop-bad cop with the Candyman.
他们紧紧抓住克里斯,陶醉于他在团队看不到的特殊场景中的再演表演,他和诺姆与糖果人一起扮演了一个好警察和坏警察。
I said, I worked a month on his case, and you're just going to let him go?
我说,我为他的案子工作了一个月,你就放他走了?
He's going, Calm down, just do what you're told.
他会说,冷静点,按照吩咐的去做。
So go outside and chill out.
所以出去放松一下吧。
And so anyway, I come back around the corner and I'm just-- you know what?
不管怎样,我很快就回来了,我只是——你知道吗?
I turn to him, I said, you know what?
我转向他,我说,你知道吗?
I've got seven years of following this.
我已经追随这件事七年了。
So don't even think you can get away with it.
所以别以为你能逃脱惩罚。
Everyone in that room broke the law, but they were celebrating it like a civic duty.
那个房间里的每个人都触犯了法律,但他们却把它当作公民义务来庆祝。
That's how Chris allowed them to see it.
克里斯就是这样让他们看到的。
Because if Chris had a genius for fantasy, it was that he understood that everyone had their own particular fantasy, and he could spot it and harness it, and weave it together with the rest of the people in his web.
因为如果说克里斯有幻想天才的话,那就是他明白每个人都有自己独特的幻想,他可以发现它并利用它,并将其与其他人一起编织到他的网络中。
The Moms wanted to be on TV.
妈妈们想上电视。
Norm wanted to feel powerful again.
诺姆想要再次感受到力量。
The media wanted a good story.
媒体想要一个好故事。
The Candyman got a little fantasy date.
糖果人得到了一次小小的幻想约会。
Even Carl told me that before he first blew the whistle on Chris, he hesitated.
就连卡尔也告诉我,在他第一次揭发克里斯之前,他也犹豫过。
Not just because he was scared, but because he, too was taken by Chris's grand vision.
不仅仅是因为他害怕,而是因为他也被克里斯的宏伟愿景所吸引。
It's like something Chris said the last time Pete saw him before he was arrested.
这就像皮特被捕前克里斯最后一次见到他时所说的话。
Chris was being filmed for the reality show.
克里斯正在为真人秀节目拍摄。
He was doing one of those confessional interviews, talking to the producer.
他正在进行其中一次忏悔式采访,与制片人交谈。
"The thing about people," Chris said to the camera, "is that they want to believe you.
“人们的特点是,”克里斯对着镜头说,“他们愿意相信你。
You don't have to give them much, and they'll come right along."
你不需要给他们太多,他们就会过来。”
Josh Bearman in Los Angeles.
乔什·贝尔曼在洛杉矶。
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[音乐 - 鲁迪将军的《THE JIG IS UP》]
Well, our program was produced today by Sarah Koenig and Ben Calhoun with Jonathan Menjivar, Lisa Pollak, Robyn Semien, Alissa Shipp, and Nancy Updike.
今天我们的节目由 Sarah Koenig 和 Ben Calhoun 以及 Jonathan Menjivar、Lisa Pollak、Robyn Semien、Alissa Shipp 和 Nancy Updike 共同制作。
Our senior producer is Julie Snyder.
我们的高级制片人是朱莉·斯奈德。
Production help from Nikki Meek.
Nikki Meek 提供制作帮助。
Seth Lind is our production manager.
塞思·林德 (Seth Lind) 是我们的生产经理。
Brian Judd is filling in as office manager.
布莱恩·贾德 (Brian Judd) 接任办公室经理。
At our website, you can get our free weekly podcasts, listen to our programs for free online, get our apps for iPhone, iPad, or Android, which are, by the way, fantastic-- especially that iPad one-- all at thisamericanlife.org.
在我们的网站上,您可以获取我们的每周免费播客,免费在线收听我们的节目,获取我们的 iPhone、iPad 或 Android 版应用程序,顺便说一下,这些应用程序非常棒,尤其是 iPad 版,所有这些都在 thisamericanlife.org 上。
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[致谢]《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
WBEZ management oversight for our show by our boss, Mr. Torey Malatia.
我们的老板 Torey Malatia 先生对我们的演出进行 WBEZ 管理监督。
When he gets low on electrolytes, he is not shy about fixing that problem.
当他电解质不足时,他并不羞于解决这个问题。
No, no, no. He will walk up to any sweaty person, man or woman, any age, race, or creed, and tell them--
不,不,不。他会走到任何出汗的人面前,无论男人还是女人,无论年龄、种族或信仰,并告诉他们——
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作,并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。