420: Neighborhood Watch - This American Life
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Prologue Ira Glass From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life distributed by Public Radio International.
序言 Ira Glass 来自 WBEZ 芝加哥,由国际公共广播电台发行的《美国生活》。
This person's an airline pilot so they're gone quite a bit.
这个人是一名航空公司飞行员,所以他们已经离开很长时间了。
Paul Gereffi is a letter carrier in Ft.
保罗·格莱菲 (Paul Gereffi) 是《金融时报》的一名邮递员。
Lauderdale.
劳德代尔堡。
He's been doing the same route on and off for 15 years.
15年来,他一直断断续续地走同一条路线。
This house next door here, one of the original Miami Dolphins lives there from the 1966 team.
隔壁的这栋房子里住着 1966 年迈阿密海豚队的一名创始成员。
And this guy's a policeman.
这家伙是一名警察。
That's why that car's there.
这就是那辆车在那里的原因。
After closing up his truck, he heads out on foot with the mail.
关上卡车后,他带着邮件步行出发。
Before we get to the story of the guy whose life Paul saved, a word about the mentality you can get walking a mail route.
在我们讲述保罗救了他一命的那个人的故事之前,先谈谈你在邮路行走时的心态。
This is a couple that have young children, and now their kids are going away to college.
这是一对有年幼孩子的夫妇,现在他们的孩子即将去上大学。
You see them growing up.
你会看到他们的成长。
And next thing you know.
接下来你知道的。
Like here there's a pennant in front of the house.
就像这里,房子前面有一面三角旗。
It says Ole Miss.
上面写着奥莱小姐。
He's going to Ole Miss.
他要去奥莱小姐那里。
This guy here just passed away about a year ago.
这里的这个人大约一年前刚刚去世。
He was a retired mail carrier.
他是一名退休的邮递员。
He was a really nice old guy.
他是一个非常好的老家伙。
Hey!
嘿!
Stop it.
停止吧。
Paul Gereffi What's going on?
保罗·格莱菲 发生了什么事?
We were just talking about your father.
我们刚才正在谈论你的父亲。
It's not like the mailman knows a lot about any of us, but he's the one person in the neighborhood who knows a little bit about everybody.
邮递员并不是对我们每个人都了解很多,但他是附近唯一一个对每个人都了解一点的人。
Oh, once in a while a man or woman will pull down in the street.
哦,偶尔会有男人或女人在街上停车。
"I'm moving out.
“我要搬出去了。
Here's my change of address, individual only." You know, it's just sad, because they're splitting up or something bad's happening.
这是我的地址变更,仅限个人。”你知道,这很悲伤,因为他们分手了或者发生了一些不好的事情。
So you just sometimes know things.
所以你只是有时知道一些事情。
It's like a doctor.
这就像一个医生。
You know things about people, but you don't say anything or acknowledge it.
你了解人们的一些事情,但你什么也不说,也不承认。
It's just in your head.
它就在你的脑海里。
It's funny because I'll run into people sometimes, and I'll know their name and then I'll know their address.
这很有趣,因为有时我会遇到人,我会知道他们的名字,然后我会知道他们的地址。
And they'll say, "How do you know my address?" And I say, "Well I'm your mailman once in a while.
他们会说:“你怎么知道我的地址?”我说:“好吧,我偶尔是你的邮递员。
You have that little grey box off to the side, and it's got a little dent in the front.
旁边有一个灰色的小盒子,它的前面有一个小凹痕。
They'll just freak out.
他们会吓坏的。
[MAN ADDRESSESS HIM] Paul Gereffi Good.
[男人对他说话] Paul Gereffi 好。
How you doing?
你怎么样?
Sometimes knowing just a little bit about everybody, you step in.
有时,只要对每个人了解一点点,你就会介入。
Paul says that a common scam in Southern Florida is the people who go door to door pretending to sell stuff just to see if it's an old person who lives in the house, to see if they live by themselves, casing the place basically to rob it later.
保罗说,佛罗里达州南部的一个常见骗局是,人们挨家挨户假装卖东西,只是为了看看房子里是否住着老人,看看他们是否自己住,基本上是为了以后抢劫。
He's called the cops lots of times on strangers in the neighborhood who seem to be doing just that.
他曾多次因附近的陌生人似乎这样做而报警。
He's comforted a little boy who came out of his house crying one day, wondering why his mom's late getting home from work.
他安慰了一个小男孩,有一天,他哭着从家里出来,想知道为什么他妈妈下班迟到。
And he saved a guy.
他救了一个人。
He went into the studio with me to tell me the story.
他和我一起走进工作室给我讲这个故事。
It happened one day.
有一天,事情发生了。
Paul was driving in his mail truck.
保罗驾驶着他的邮车。
He saw these two guys standing on the sidewalk in front of an office building right near the entrance to the parking lot.
他看到这两个人站在靠近停车场入口处的一座办公楼前的人行道上。
And they were punching each other and fighting and wrestling.
他们互相拳打脚踢、打斗、摔跤。
As I'm coming closer, I noticed some people standing there watching.
当我走近时,我注意到有人站在那里观看。
One guy I remember clearly had his arms folded.
我清楚地记得有一个人双臂交叉。
And I'm thinking, OK, they must be filming a movie.
我想,好吧,他们一定是在拍电影。
Sometimes they film movies in the area.
有时他们在该地区拍摄电影。
And that was my initial thought.
这就是我最初的想法。
Well I kind of recognized this guy from delivering his mail occasionally.
嗯,我从偶尔送信的时候就认出了这个人。
He owned a pizza place there.
他在那里拥有一家披萨店。
So as I got closer, he saw the mail truck.
当我走近时,他看到了邮车。
And he started waving his hand back and forth for me to stop.
他开始来回挥手让我停下来。
So I slowed down.
所以我放慢了速度。
And he had this guy by the pants with one arm and he put his hand to his ear for me to call for help.
他用一只手臂抓住了这个人的裤子,然后他把手放在耳边让我呼救。
And he's saying, "Help!
他说:“救命!
Help!"
救命啊!”
So Paul pulls over and he calls 911, when he notices that the pizza shop owner must have been stabbed.
于是保罗把车停在路边,拨打了 911,这时他发现披萨店老板一定是被刺伤了。
There were these huge circles of blood on his clothes.
他的衣服上有一大圈血迹。
The two guys were still tussling on the ground.
两个人还在地上扭打着。
So in the midst of this, what really struck me as odd is a person that worked at the office building is pulling into the parking lot.
因此,在这之中,真正让我感到奇怪的是,一个在办公楼工作的人正在把车开进停车场。
These two people are fighting.
这两个人正在战斗。
The guy saying, "Let me go!
那人说:“放开我!
Let me go!
让我走吧!
Leave me alone!" And she very carefully steers around them, goes into the parking lot, parks her car, gets out, looks back for a second, and goes into the building like, Well, I've got work to do or something.
别管我!”她小心翼翼地绕过他们,走进停车场,停好车,下车,回头看了一眼,然后走进大楼,好像在说,好吧,我有工作要做或者别的什么。
Paul found out later that would had happened was the older guy, the pizza shop owner, had fired the younger guy, told him to get out.
保罗后来发现,之所以会发生这种情况,是因为披萨店老板、年长的人解雇了年轻人,让他滚出去。
The guy went home, came back, snuck in the back door with a steak knife, and stabbed him five times.
那家伙回家后回来,拿着牛排刀从后门溜进去,刺了他五刀。
And after he did that, he ran to get away.
说完之后,他就拔腿就跑。
Well, the restaurant owner in his anger chased him out into the parking lot to apprehend him so he couldn't get away.
好吧,餐馆老板一怒之下把他追到了停车场想要逮捕他,这样他就无法逃脱了。
I mean he was not going to take it.
我的意思是他不会接受。
So even though we found out later he was in critical condition-- he had been stabbed five times== he chased the guy maybe 50 yards to the back of the parking lot, caught him.
因此,尽管我们后来发现他情况危急——他被刺了五刀==,他还是追了那个人大约50码到停车场后面,抓住了他。
That is amazing.
这真是太棒了。
Paul Gereffi And that's when I came across the scene.
Paul Gereffi 就在那时我看到了这个场景。
So I heard the sirens coming.
所以我听到警报声来了。
I'm pleading with the dispatcher, "Hurry, hurry!" Then the police came, and ironically the guy that had been stabbed ran.
我恳求调度员:“快点,快点!”然后警察来了,讽刺的是,被刺伤的人跑了。
He ran away back to his restaurant, because he was worried that he had left the door unlocked.
他跑回餐馆,因为他担心自己没锁门。
So they had to catch him and sit him down until the ambulance got there.
所以他们不得不抓住他并让他坐下,直到救护车到达那里。
What struck me really odd about the whole situation was that so many people stood there and did nothing.
整个情况让我感到非常奇怪的是,这么多人站在那里,什么也没做。
And that's what the gentleman said, "You know, people drove by.
这位先生就是这么说的:“你知道,人们开车经过。
They were standing there, and nobody helped me until the mailman came by."
他们站在那里,没有人帮助我,直到邮递员过来。”
The National Association of Letter Carriers named Paul one if its Heroes of the Year in 2008 for this.
为此,全国邮递员协会将保罗评为 2008 年年度英雄之一。
Others who were named that year, a postal carrier in Cedar Rapids who crawled inside a partially submerged car and rescued the driver.
那年被点名的其他人是锡达拉皮兹的一名邮递员,他爬进一辆部分淹没的汽车并救出了司机。
A carrier in New York who alerted the authorities to what became a major identity theft case, had been noticing tons of credit card mail in the name of an 85-year-old woman who had been in a nursing home for months.
纽约的一家承运商向当局通报了一起重大身份盗用案件,该承运商注意到大量信用卡邮件的名字是一名在疗养院住了几个月的 85 岁妇女。
It's so common for letter carriers to stumble onto something during their route and perform a good deed that these incidents are a regular feature of the Letter Carrier Association's monthly magazine.
邮递员在途中偶然发现一些东西并做好事是很常见的,因此这些事件是邮递员协会月刊的定期专题。
These postal workers, they see what is happening around them, and they feel responsible.
这些邮政工人,他们看到周围发生的事情,他们感到有责任。
Versus the rest of us.
与我们其他人相比。
We're more like the people standing on the sidewalk.
我们更像是站在人行道上的人们。
And today's show is about the tension between those two different ways of reacting to trouble.
今天的节目讲述的是这两种不同的应对麻烦方式之间的紧张关系。
Which kind of person do we want to be?
我们想成为什么样的人?
I mean really.
我的意思是真的。
Not pretending.
不是假装。
Really.
真的。
Our show today in four acts.
我们今天的演出分四幕。
Four acts where there are decent reasons for people step in and help and even better reasons not to.
四种行为,人们有正当理由介入并提供帮助,甚至有更好的理由不介入。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Baby Steps.
第一幕,婴儿学步。
Let's begin today with a story of a bunch of people on the sidewalk in one neighborhood deciding if they're going to intervene one by one.
今天让我们从一个故事开始:一群人在一个社区的人行道上决定是否要一一进行干预。
And mostly, I have to say, deciding yes.
大多数情况下,我不得不说,决定是。
I don't think that's much of a spoiler.
我不认为这有太多剧透。
And they say yes for reasons that will all become clear enough to you.
他们答应的原因你都会很清楚。
Ryan Knighton is the dad in the story.
瑞恩·奈顿是故事中的父亲。
He's Canadian, and I only point that out because he uses the word nappy.
他是加拿大人,我只是指出这一点,因为他使用了尿布这个词。
"I think I'll take Tess for a walk," I announce one morning.
“我想带苔丝去散步,”一天早上我宣布。
Tess is our 4-month-old.
苔丝是我们四个月大的孩子。
This would be our first walk together.
这将是我们第一次一起散步。
My wife Tracy paused.
我的妻子特雷西停了下来。
"Oh," she said.
“哦,”她说。
"Uh, OK." "I've already got the baby chest sack carrier thing," I said.
“呃,好吧。” “我已经拿到了婴儿胸袋的东西,”我说。
"If you can put her sweater on or whatever." "You sure?" Tracy asked.
“如果你能让她穿上毛衣什么的。” “你确定?”特雷西问道。
I was already busy putting the harness on inside out.
我已经忙着把安全带翻过来了。
"Yep.
“是的。
We'll be fine." "I'll go with you then," Tracy said.
我们会没事的。” “那我跟你一起去,”特蕾西说。
She sounded extra cheerful, persuasive.
她听起来格外开朗,很有说服力。
I couldn't angle a kind way to say, "But I don't want you to walk with us.
我无法找到一种友善的方式说:“但我不想让你和我们一起走。
For once I want to take Tess for a walk by myself." So instead I said, "Look, you never get any time alone." Tracy didn't need reminding.
这一次我想独自带苔丝去散步。”所以我说:“听着,你永远没有独处的时间。”特雷西不需要提醒。
In four months, she'd never been further than the shower without Tess either in her arms or in sight.
在四个月的时间里,她从来没有离开过淋浴间,苔丝要么在她怀里,要么在她的视线里。
She hadn't much in the way of alternatives either.
她也没有太多的选择。
I'm her husband, but I'm also blind, and people are naturally wary of leaving me in charge of a baby, even my own.
我是她的丈夫,但我也是盲人,人们自然会担心让我照顾孩子,甚至是我自己的孩子。
Though I've been blind for 10 years now, I'm still not very good at it.
虽然我已经失明10年了,但我仍然不太擅长。
I lost my sight slowly over a 15 year stretch, a slow and painless deterioration of my retinas caused by a genetic misfire with a long name.
在长达 15 年的时间里,我慢慢失去了视力,这是由一个长名字的基因失火引起的,我的视网膜缓慢而无痛地恶化。
While I've adapted to much over time, four months with a baby is a slender window in which to perfect my new dad skills.
虽然随着时间的推移,我已经适应了很多,但带孩子的四个月是完善我的新爸爸技能的短暂窗口。
Just imagine changing a nappy in the dark.
想象一下在黑暗中换尿布。
What was once a diaper is now psychedelic origami.
曾经的尿布现在变成了迷幻的折纸。
Today my plan was to strap on our child for a walk through city traffic.
今天我的计划是绑着我们的孩子在城市交通中散步。
You can understand Tracy's reluctance.
你可以理解特雷西的不情愿。
"It's just a little walk," I said.
“只要走一小段路就可以了,”我说。
"We'll be fine." "You have the baby carrier on upside down," she said surrendering.
“我们会没事的。” “你把婴儿背带倒过来了,”她投降了。
A few minutes later I descended our front stoop with Tess.
几分钟后,我和苔丝一起下了前门廊。
I have never been more petrified as a blind pedestrian.
作为一个盲人行人,我从来没有像现在这样害怕过。
Tess was harnessed to my belly, and the weight of her there, that new presence against my chest and stomach, brought other sensations to the surface.
苔丝被套在我的肚子上,她的重量,以及我的胸部和腹部的新存在,带来了其他的感觉。
I could feel memories of mushing my gut into any number of undetected obstacles, into poles, bicycles, parking meters, chain-link fences, you name it.
我能感觉到我的直觉冲进了许多未被发现的障碍物,杆子,自行车,停车计时器,铁丝网,凡是你能想到的东西。
I stepped cautiously, deliberately, as if carrying a sack of sweaty dynamite.
我小心翼翼、从容不迫地走着,就像拎着一袋汗湿的炸药一样。
I swept my cane with the care of a mine detector.
我用探雷器扫过我的手杖。
20 minutes later, we'd only made it to the corner.
20分钟后,我们才走到拐角处。
We live two doors down from the corner.
我们住在距离拐角两扇门的地方。
The first person to pass us saw the situation in simpler terms.
第一个从我们身边经过的人以更简单的方式看待这种情况。
"Jesus, that's got to be tricky," she said as she passed.
“天哪,这一定很棘手,”她经过时说道。
Maybe she said it to me or maybe to a person she was walking with or maybe, as her phrasing suggested, to her pal Jesus.
也许她是对我说的,也可能是对和她一起散步的人说的,或者,正如她的措辞所暗示的,也许是对她的朋友耶稣说的。
Already strangers were praying for our survival.
陌生人已经在祈祷我们的生存。
Within the next block and the next 20 minutes of slow-going movement, at least a half a dozen others offered similar prayers or insisted on guiding us or asked to take us home or asked if we'd lost mommy.
在下一个街区和接下来 20 分钟的缓慢移动中,至少有六个人提出了类似的祈祷,或者坚持引导我们,或者要求带我们回家,或者问我们是否失去了妈妈。
Slowly we edged around the corner at Grant Street and left the residential sidewalks for Commercial Drive.
我们慢慢地绕过格兰特街的拐角处,离开住宅区的人行道,前往商业大道。
More people meant more noise to govern by, a good thing.
更多的人意味着更多的噪音来治理,这是一件好事。
The sound of traffic stretched into the distance, so at least I had something pointing me in the right direction.
车水马龙的声音一直延伸到远处,所以至少我有东西指引着我正确的方向。
The help of crowds has a backhand though.
不过,群众的帮助也有反作用。
Busy people pay less attention to their surroundings.
忙碌的人不太注意周围的环境。
Folks regularly clip my shoulders, and I've been caught off-balance and knocked down before.
人们经常夹伤我的肩膀,我以前也曾因失去平衡而被击倒过。
Here they might even slam us head on or smush a slice of hot, cheap pizza into Tess's face.
在这里,他们甚至可能会用头猛撞我们,或者把一片又热又便宜的披萨塞到苔丝脸上。
And there will be dogs too.
而且还会有狗。
Usually it's pit bulls around here.
通常这里都是斗牛犬。
Pit bulls leashed to bike racks or snoozing in front of doorways, as you'd find them in their native habitat by the Gates of Hades.
斗牛犬被拴在自行车架上或在门口打瞌睡,就像您在冥王之门附近的原生栖息地中看到的那样。
Too often I've whacked my cane against a dog where no dog should be.
我经常用拐杖敲打狗,而那是不应该有狗的地方。
And too many times large, toothy shadows have snapped at my legs.
太多次,巨大的、牙齿般的影子咬住了我的腿。
Tess could become a chew toy.
苔丝可以成为一个咀嚼玩具。
I waved my free hand in front of us, braced my arm, and pushed ahead, the way running backs rush into a dog pile, but really, really slowly.
我在前面挥舞着空着的手,撑起手臂,向前推进,就像跑卫冲进狗堆一样,但速度非常非常慢。
Within 10 steps, somebody clipped my shoulder.
不到 10 步,有人夹住了我的肩膀。
As I rebounded, it happened again, this time sending me off course towards a garbage can.
当我反弹时,同样的事情再次发生,这一次让我偏离航线,冲向垃圾桶。
A woman caught up with us.
一个女人追上了我们。
She'd retrieved Tess's baby sunglasses that had fallen to the sidewalk awhile back.
她捡起了苔丝不久前掉在人行道上的婴儿太阳镜。
"Here," she said.
“在这里,”她说。
"You let the baby drop these." "Thanks," I said.
“你让孩子把这些掉下来。” “谢谢,”我说。
"You should be careful," she said.
“你应该小心,”她说。
Telling a blind person he should be careful is like telling him to look out.
告诉盲人应该小心,就像告诉他要小心一样。
It's not a question of should but how.
这不是应该的问题,而是如何的问题。
I thanked her again and tried to fit the glasses back on to Tess's face.
我再次感谢她,并尝试将眼镜重新戴到苔丝的脸上。
Mostly though I just poked at her chubby cheeks with the arms.
大多数情况下,我只是用手臂戳她胖乎乎的脸颊。
We shuffled on.
我们拖着脚步继续前行。
Soon I recognized a voice at a sidewalk cafe table.
很快我就在路边咖啡桌上认出了一个声音。
The voice belonged to Joe, an older Italian man who continues to be as best I can determine shackled to my preferred coffee shop.
这个声音属于乔,一位年长的意大利男子,据我所知,他仍然被束缚在我最喜欢的咖啡店里。
"My God," he said as we approached.
“我的上帝,”当我们走近时他说道。
"You've got a little baby." He was up and at us in seconds, pinching Tess's cheeks.
“你已经有一个小宝宝了。”几秒钟之内他就站起来朝我们走来,捏捏苔丝的脸颊。
This was a man who looked past my blindness and her vulnerability.
这个男人看透了我的盲目和她的脆弱。
He simply drank in the baby and her babyness.
他只是沉浸在婴儿和她的婴儿般的感觉中。
It was refreshing.
真是令人耳目一新。
"I'm telling you," Joe said coming up for breath, "this is a hell of a beautiful baby.
“我告诉你,”乔喘着气说,“这真是一个漂亮的孩子。
She likes me.
她喜欢我。
I can tell." He tickled the baby some more.
我看得出来。”他又挠了挠婴儿的痒痒。
"And look," Joe went on, "she's got her little sunglasses on and--" Suddenly all the espresso fueled joy drained from his body.
“看,”乔继续说道,“她戴着小太阳镜,而且——”突然间,所有浓咖啡带来的快乐从他的身体里消失了。
"The glasses.
“眼镜。
My God, no," he said, his voice low and serious.
天哪,不,”他说道,声音低沉而严肃。
"She don't see.
“她没看见。
My God, she don't see like you." It took a few minutes to convince him that everything was fine.
天哪,她的眼光和你不一样。”花了几分钟才让他相信一切都很好。
He found it hard to believe that babies might wear sunglasses for comfort.
他发现很难相信婴儿会为了舒适而戴太阳镜。
As we rounded the corner at Graveley Street, stepping past the pub and local U-Brew, a mere 30 yards from home plate, I heard the ridiculous girth of an SUV shoot out from a building's underground parking lot.
当我们绕过格雷夫利街的拐角处,走过距离本垒仅 30 码的酒吧和当地的 U-Brew 啤酒店时,我听到一辆 SUV 的可笑声从建筑物的地下停车场射出。
The weight of its super-sized engineering and Freudian neurosis blew across the sidewalk in front of us, close enough in fact to bat the cane from my hand and into the street.
它的超大型工程和弗洛伊德式的神经症的重量吹过我们前面的人行道,实际上距离我手上的手杖很近,可以拍到街上。
My heart stopped.
我的心停止了跳动。
I didn't know if Tess had been clipped.
我不知道苔丝是否被剪掉了。
Everything happened so fast.
一切都发生得太快了。
She sucked wind, readying a hail of tears and a permanent distrust of her father's guidance.
她吸了一口气,准备大滴大滴的泪水,并对父亲的指导产生了永久的不信任。
Nothing came though.
但什么也没发生。
And still nothing came.
但仍然什么也没发生。
So I knew she was shaping that worst cry, the deep, silent, open-mouthed cry, the one that can't find any voice in the beginning.
所以我知道她正在塑造最糟糕的哭泣,深沉、无声、张开嘴的哭泣,一开始就找不到任何声音的哭泣。
I braced myself, and then it arrived.
我做好了准备,然后它就来了。
She violently shook and kicked and squealed with laughter.
她剧烈地摇晃、踢打、大笑。
Out of her came a glee powerful enough to start my heart again, a laugh like I've never heard before.
她的笑声让我心潮澎湃,那是我以前从未听过的笑声。
Meanwhile the driver had stopped.
与此同时,司机停了下来。
He fetched my cane.
他拿来了我的手杖。
Had I been one step closer home when the SUV had left the lot, my spine would have resembled what now remained of my cane.
如果SUV离开停车场时我离家更近一步,我的脊椎就会像我现在剩下的手杖一样。
"Sorry there," the driver said and handed me my new boomerang.
“抱歉,”司机说着,把我的新回旋镖递给了我。
"I didn't see you coming.
“我没看到你来。
Cute baby." Before I knew what to say or remembered how to yell, he was back inside his tank putting it in hyper-drive.
可爱的宝贝。”在我不知道该说什么或记得如何大喊之前,他已经回到了他的坦克里,将其置于超驱动状态。
"You should be careful," he said from out the window and sped away.
“你要小心,”他从窗外说道,然后就加速离开了。
Actor Daniel Beirne, reading a true story by Ryan Knighton, an excerpt from Knighton's book, C'mon Papa: Dispatches From a Dad in the Dark.
演员丹尼尔·贝尔恩(Daniel Beirne)正在阅读瑞安·奈顿(Ryan Knighton)的真实故事,该故事摘自奈顿的书《加油爸爸:来自黑暗中的爸爸的消息》。
This story originally aired on the CBC radio program Wire Tap, which is hosted by Jonathan Goldstein and distributed in the United States by PRI, Public Radio International.
这个故事最初在 CBC 广播节目 Wire Tap 上播出,该节目由乔纳森·戈尔茨坦 (Jonathan Goldstein) 主持,并由国际公共广播电台 PRI 在美国发行。
[MUSIC - "YOU'RE OUT WALKING THE STREETS TONIGHT" BY SIR DOUGLAS QUINTET]
[音乐 - 道格拉斯五重奏爵士的《今晚你出去走在街上》]
A surprising amount of Debbie Logan's workday involves dogs.
黛比·洛根 (Debbie Logan) 的工作日中有很大一部分与狗有关。
I'm being asked if you want the dog to be intermittently barking in the interview or not.
我被问到你是否希望狗在采访中断断续续地吠叫。
We have a dog in the office.
我们办公室里有一只狗。
Debbie spoke to me from her office.
黛比在她的办公室与我交谈。
She's the building manager for a development of apartments and townhouses in Nashua, New Hampshire called Twin Ponds, 364 units.
她是新罕布什尔州纳舒厄一处名为 Twin Ponds 的公寓和联排别墅开发项目的建筑经理,该项目共有 364 个单元。
And in those 364 units, at least 250 dogs, she says.
她说,在这 364 个单元中,至少有 250 只狗。
Since they started advertising their dog friendliness about a year ago, business has been unstoppable.
自从大约一年前他们开始宣传对狗的友好性以来,生意就一直势不可挡。
We have no weight or breed restrictions.
我们没有体重或品种限制。
We have one small dog playground on our property.
我们的酒店内设有一个小型狗狗游乐场。
We're in the process of building a large one.
我们正在建造一个大型的。
And that's why a lot of people come to us and why our occupancy rate it so high.
这就是为什么很多人来找我们以及我们的入住率如此之高的原因。
It is 99%.
是99%。
Wow.
哇。
Debbie Logan People love their dogs.
黛比·洛根 人们爱他们的狗。
Take that, economic recession.
就拿经济衰退来说吧。
But of course there's a problem that goes with having lots of dogs around, and that's human beings who don't pick up after their dogs.
但当然,周围有很多狗会带来一个问题,那就是人类不去追随他们的狗。
You see this pretty much everywhere in the world where there's large numbers of people and dogs living together.
在世界上到处都有大量人和狗生活在一起的地方,你几乎可以看到这种情况。
And here at Twin Ponds, there's a woodsy area and a little brook and of course two ponds, lots of potential places for wayward, hidden poo.
在双池,有一片树林和一条小溪,当然还有两个池塘,有很多潜在的任性、隐藏的粪便的地方。
There was a lot of problems, but it was impossible to find out who they were.
问题很多,但又无法查出他们是谁。
They were very sneaky, and they would go out at night or around a corner when nobody's looking.
他们非常狡猾,他们会在晚上或在没有人注意的时候从拐角处出去。
And the bigger problem was that it was showing up in grassy areas where kids were meant to play.
更大的问题是它出现在孩子们玩耍的草地上。
Ew.
呃。
Debbie Logan I know.
黛比·洛根我知道。
And around the ponds when people are going over there to enjoy the fishing.
当人们去那里钓鱼时,在池塘周围。
And one of the biggest things was I'd get a call that said, "Well I can't prove it, but I swear it's so-and-so in whatever unit number." Well I can't do anything with that.
最重要的事情之一是我接到一个电话,说:“好吧,我无法证明这一点,但我发誓它是某某的,无论编号如何。”好吧,我对此无能为力。
She tried the neighborhood watch kind of approach to the problem for a while, put the residents on the lookout.
她尝试了一段时间邻里监视的方式来解决这个问题,让居民们保持警惕。
We did offer to pay people if they could show us a video of another offender.
如果人们能向我们展示另一名罪犯的视频,我们确实愿意付钱给他们。
It only worked for a very short amount of time, and we found out very quickly that people aren't comfortable doing that.
它只工作了很短的时间,我们很快发现人们不愿意这样做。
Wait.
等等。
It worked for a brief amount of time?
它在短时间内有效吗?
How many people shot videos of their neighbors?
有多少人拍摄邻居的视频?
It was a while ago.
那是不久前的事了。
I would say I maybe had-- Let's go with half a dozen.
我想说我也许有——让我们来六个吧。
Half a dozen?
六打?
Debbie Logan And most of those videos I couldn't even tell who the person was anyway.
黛比·洛根(Debbie Logan) 对于大多数视频,我什至都无法分辨出那个人是谁。
It just wasn't working, and the more we thought about that, that wasn't the right way to do things.
它就是行不通,而且我们越想越觉得这不是正确的做事方式。
So Debbie began researching.
于是黛比开始研究。
She spent four or five months looking for some alternative, looking at what cities do and what dog parks do to get people to pick up after their dogs.
她花了四五个月的时间寻找替代方案,研究城市和狗公园做了什么来让人们接走他们的狗。
What she found was that nobody seemed to be doing much at all.
她发现似乎没有人做太多事情。
She could put in video cameras everywhere, but that would cost a fortune.
她可以在任何地方安装摄像机,但这要花一大笔钱。
She didn't want to have to pass that cost onto her tenants.
她不想将这笔费用转嫁给她的租户。
Finally poking around on Google, she found a service called Poo Prints, which would DNA test all the dogs in her buildings and compare that DNA to DNA found in any errant poo.
最后,她在谷歌上搜索,发现了一项名为“Poo Prints”的服务,该服务可以对她所在建筑物中的所有狗进行 DNA 测试,并将该 DNA 与任何错误粪便中发现的 DNA 进行比较。
Watson and Crick, when they discovered the double helix in a strand of DNA, Crick supposedly announced, "We have found the secret of life." Now PooPrints was using that to keep the sidewalk clean.
沃森和克里克,当他们发现 DNA 链中的双螺旋时,克里克据称宣布:“我们找到了生命的秘密。”现在,PooPrints 正在使用它来保持人行道清洁。
And I happened to come across it finally.
我终于碰巧遇到了它。
And initially I thought that it was a little on the crazy side to DNA dogs.
最初我认为这对 DNA 狗来说有点疯狂。
Doesn't it sound crazy?
听起来是不是很疯狂?
Ira Glass Yeah, it actually does sound crazy.
Ira Glass 是的,这听起来确实很疯狂。
Well it just seems like, really?
嗯,看起来真的是这样吗?
Things have come to this?
事情已经发展到这个地步了?
That that's what we're going to do?
这就是我们要做的?
And it's working.
它正在发挥作用。
Ira Glass It's working, though it took some effort.
Ira Glass:虽然需要付出一些努力,但它正在发挥作用。
First step, Debbie had to get samples of all the DNA of all the dogs in all of her buildings.
第一步,黛比必须获取她所有建筑物中所有狗的所有 DNA 样本。
She had the owners bring the dogs to her office.
她让主人把狗带到她的办公室。
They swabbed the inside of each dog's cheek with a Q-tip, paid $30.00 to cover the cost, and sent it to the lab.
他们用棉签擦拭每只狗的脸颊内侧,支付了 30 美元的费用,然后将其送往实验室。
Which you would think would be simple, except that they're dogs.
你可能会认为这很简单,除了它们是狗。
You have to schedule them one at a time.
你必须一次安排一个。
You don't want the risk of you're doing a dog DNA in the office and you have someone else coming in.
您不希望冒着在办公室进行狗 DNA 检测时有其他人进来的风险。
And if those dogs greet each other, then that's it.
如果那些狗互相打招呼,那就这样了。
You have to reschedule that appointment.
您必须重新安排该约会。
You mean because the dogs lick each other?
你的意思是因为狗互相舔对方?
That's the problem?
这就是问题所在?
They're swapping DNA.
他们正在交换DNA。
That's right.
没错。
So we only do an appointment every hour.
所以我们每小时只进行一次预约。
And we stayed open late and weekends.
我们一直营业到很晚和周末。
So one of the things that I love the most right now is of course is if somebody calls and they've "found a pile," quote, unquote, on the property, we send a maintenance guy out, and we have a collection kit.
所以我现在最喜欢的一件事当然是,如果有人打电话,他们在房产上“发现了一堆”,引用,不引用,我们会派一名维护人员出去,我们有一个收集工具包。
And it's like we play a little CSI out there.
就像我们在那里玩一点犯罪现场调查一样。
We get our sample, send it in.
我们拿到样品,寄过来。
And sure, she says, the poor maintenance guy who has to get a dab of poo and then mix it with a special solution and FedEx that sample to the lab in Knoxville.
当然,她说,那个可怜的维护人员必须弄一点粪便,然后将其与特殊溶液混合,然后将样本联邦快递到诺克斯维尔的实验室。
Not much fun for him.
对他来说没有太多乐趣。
But just how exciting does Debbie find it?
但黛比觉得这有多令人兴奋呢?
She finds it so exciting that she has a music cue on the ready on her computer.
她觉得这太令人兴奋了,以至于她的电脑上准备好了音乐提示。
So pretty much, when I know there's a sample to be picked up, I cue up the music and crank it when one of my maintenance guys is walking through the door.
所以几乎,当我知道有一个样品需要拿起时,我会在我的一名维修人员走进门时播放音乐并启动它。
He knows exactly what he'll be doing when he hears this.
他很清楚,当他听到这句话时,他会做什么。
Well I don't think we have as much excitement as Deb does on her end.
好吧,我认为我们没有黛布对她的表现那么兴奋。
And as your poo technician, does he get excited when he actually gets samples to test?
作为您的粪便技术人员,当他真正拿到样本进行测试时,他会感到兴奋吗?
This is Jim Simpson, the president of the company that does the DNA testing called BioPet.
我是吉姆·辛普森 (Jim Simpson),是一家名为 BioPet 的 DNA 检测公司的总裁。
BioPet was the kind of company that ran blood tests for veterinarians.
BioPet 是一家为兽医进行血液检测的公司。
Then a few years ago, they realized that since the dog genome had been mapped, there must be a way to make money selling DNA testing of some kind to dog owners.
几年前,他们意识到,既然狗的基因组已经被绘制出来,那么一定有一种方法可以通过向狗主人出售某种 DNA 测试来赚钱。
So they started doing doggy paternity tests.
于是他们开始做小狗亲子鉴定。
Yes, there is a market for that.
是的,这是有市场的。
Also they sell a test that tells you pretty inexpensively exactly what breeds make up your dog, though other companies offer those services as well.
他们还出售一种测试,可以非常便宜地告诉你你的狗到底是什么品种,尽管其他公司也提供这些服务。
But then when somebody at BioPet read about a town in Israel that had a huge problem with dog waste and that hoped to solve it with DNA testing of dogs, they wondered if it would be possible to get a DNA sample from dog poo and ship it to a lab in usable form.
但后来,当 BioPet 的某人读到以色列的一个小镇存在严重的狗粪便问题并希望通过对狗进行 DNA 测试来解决这个问题时,他们想知道是否有可能从狗粪便中获取 DNA 样本并将其以可用的形式运送到实验室。
This turned out to be a tricky thing to figure out.
事实证明这是一件很难弄清楚的事情。
Bacteria grows in the poo sample if you don't do it right.
如果处理不当,粪便样本中就会滋生细菌。
But finally about two months ago, they had it down.
但最终大约两个月前,他们把它放下了。
And they started to market the product, PooPrints, in earnest.
他们开始认真推销产品 PooPrints。
Only six places have bought it so far, which is why the company president knows Debbie by name.
到目前为止,只有六个地方购买了它,这就是为什么公司总裁知道黛比的名字。
She is his biggest customer for PooPrints.
她是 PooPrints 的最大客户。
But Jim Simpson thinks the potential is huge.
但吉姆·辛普森认为潜力巨大。
We think it's worldwide.
我们认为这是全球性的。
We've got representatives all over the world that are the starting to push the product and then they are getting interest.
我们在世界各地都有代表,他们开始推广该产品,然后他们就开始感兴趣。
But we think it's going to be a material part of our business at the end of one year.
但我们认为,到一年结束时,这将成为我们业务的重要组成部分。
Now I would think that another problem in terms of just getting this product out is that there are lots of places where there might be dog waste in front of a building, but it's in a city or it's on a street where all kinds of dogs come by who don't live in that building.
现在,我认为推出该产品的另一个问题是,建筑物前有很多地方可能有狗的粪便,但在城市或街道上,各种狗都会经过,但这些狗并不住在该建筑物内。
And so testing all the dogs in that building isn't going to help you.
所以测试那栋大楼里的所有狗对你没有帮助。
That's correct.
这是正确的。
Yeah, it definitely has to be a defined area.
是的,它肯定必须是一个明确的区域。
Most apartment complexes are a gated type community and they have a defined area for the dogs to go to the restroom, so it seems to work quite well.
大多数公寓大楼都是门禁式社区,有专门的区域供狗去洗手间,所以看起来效果很好。
We do have some small islands that are looking at the program as well.
我们确实有一些小岛屿也在考虑该计划。
That's right.
这是正确的。
He said islands, specifically on the island of Cypress in the Mediterranean, the town of Limassol.
他说的是岛屿,特别是地中海的赛普拉斯岛上的利马索尔镇。
An environmental health official inquired about bringing in PooPrints to solve their poo problem.
一位环境卫生官员询问是否可以引入粪便印迹来解决他们的粪便问题。
Meanwhile an executive in Copenhagen read that perhaps they could collaborate with BioPet and offered to help with the politics to institute mandatory adoption of PooPrints, either all through Denmark, or at least in its biggest cities.
与此同时,哥本哈根的一位高管了解到,也许他们可以与 BioPet 合作,并主动提出在政治上提供帮助,以强制采用 PooPrints,无论是在整个丹麦,还是至少在其最大的城市。
Though it has to be said that when people start debating mandatory DNA dog testing, they don't always end up choosing it.
尽管必须要说的是,当人们开始争论强制狗进行 DNA 测试时,他们并不总是最终选择它。
I think what ended up happening in our building was people fell into camps.
我认为我们大楼里最终发生的事情是人们掉进了营地。
Richard Hopp is a resident of the Scarlett Place Condominiums in Baltimore, a fancy address near the water at the Inner Harbor.
理查德·霍普 (Richard Hopp) 是巴尔的摩斯嘉丽广场公寓 (Scarlett Place Condominiums) 的居民,这是靠近内港水域的一处高档住宅区。
And this spring, a rash of doggy droppings in the hallways and supposedly even in the elevators of their high-end building led the condo board to consider DNA testing and $500 fines for violators.
今年春天,他们的高端大楼的走廊里甚至电梯里都出现了大量的狗狗粪便,导致公寓董事会考虑对违规者进行 DNA 检测,并处以 500 美元的罚款。
Richard tipped off a reporter for The Baltimore Sun .
理查德向《巴尔的摩太阳报》的记者通风报信。
He was squarely against the testing.
他坚决反对测试。
He says that two puppies were being house-trained in the building at the same time, and that might have been a lot of the problem.
他说,两只小狗同时在大楼里接受训练,这可能是一个很大的问题。
"What was the big deal?" He asked.
“有什么大不了的?”他问道。
"Why start complicated new rules?"
“为什么要制定复杂的新规则?”
What happened at the very beginning was the board had come up with this set of rules, what the fines would be.
一开始发生的事情是董事会制定了这套规则,罚款是多少。
The guest dogs.
来宾狗。
In order to bring a guest dog into the building, they'd have to be DNA tested.
为了将客犬带入大楼,必须对它们进行 DNA 测试。
And the people at the front door were supposed to check every dog that came in the lobby to see if they had a tag.
前门的人应该检查每只进入大厅的狗,看看它们是否有标签。
This very elaborate set of rules.
这是一套非常详尽的规则。
Everybody was just laughing about it.
每个人都只是嘲笑它。
And I thought it was just funny.
我觉得这很有趣。
So in my mind I was thinking, first of all, how do you know that you have every dog in the building tested?
所以我在想,首先,你怎么知道大楼里的每只狗都经过了测试?
My little dogs don't have photo ID, so how is anyone going to know if I show up, have my dog tested, that it's really Sparky?
我的小狗没有带照片的身份证件,所以别人怎么知道我是否出现,对我的狗进行了测试,它真的是 Sparky 吗?
Who would know?
谁会知道?
Wait a second.
等一下。
You're saying that people, members of the building, would actually try to evade the rules by bringing in a random dog for the dog test?
你是说,人们,大楼里的成员,实际上会试图通过随机带一只狗来进行狗测试来逃避规则?
That's what you're saying?
这就是你说的?
Well I don't know what would happen, but if you consider the kind of person you're dealing with, it's the sort of person who would watch their dog make a number two in the hallway inside the building and not do anything about it.
好吧,我不知道会发生什么,但如果你考虑一下你正在打交道的那种人,就会发现他们会看着自己的狗在大楼内的走廊上取得第二名,但却不采取任何行动。
So if you're dealing with that kind of a person to begin with, then who knows what they're going to do?
所以,如果你一开始就和这样的人打交道,那么谁知道他们会做什么呢?
And it just seems so silly to try and get a cheek swab from my little dog.
试图从我的小狗身上获取脸颊拭子似乎很愚蠢。
I mean my dog doesn't even have a snout, so I'm not even sure that he really even has a cheek.
我的意思是我的狗甚至没有鼻子,所以我什至不确定他是否真的有脸颊。
He's not going to cooperate.
他不会合作。
The whole thing just seems so overly complicated and overly expensive.
整个事情看起来过于复杂且过于昂贵。
I don't know.
我不知道。
It's a Q-tip that you put into his mouth and then you pull it out.
这是一个棉签,你把它放进他的嘴里,然后再把它拉出来。
I don't know.
我不知道。
It doesn't seem so hard.
看起来没那么难。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I guess I've never tried.
我想我从来没有尝试过。
And I suppose it's possible, but I mean it seems like there was an easier solution, which is either look at the closed-circuit cameras.
我认为这是可能的,但我的意思是似乎有一个更简单的解决方案,那就是查看闭路摄像机。
Are there closed-circuit cameras in the hallways?
走廊里有闭路摄像头吗?
Yes.
是的。
Or deal with it on a neighborly basis.
或者以睦邻友好的方式来处理。
It's a condominium building.
这是一栋公寓楼。
I know for instance on my floor that there are four other dogs.
例如,我知道在我的楼层还有另外四只狗。
And if there was a mess, I would be able to pretty well identify where it came from.
如果出现混乱,我就能很好地识别它来自哪里。
And you just talk to people in a neighborly way, rather than trying to use this technological advancement.
你只是以友善的方式与人们交谈,而不是试图利用这项技术进步。
The article in the Sun papers got picked up everywhere, all over the country.
《太阳报》上的这篇文章在全国各地都得到了转载。
There were TV stories.
有电视故事。
"And this was not good for the building," Richard says.
“这对建筑不利,”理查德说。
"Board members who had supported the DNA testing," he says, "were made to feel ridiculous." The DNA idea was dropped.
“那些支持 DNA 检测的董事会成员,”他说,“却让他们觉得很可笑。” DNA 的想法被放弃了。
And the simple threat of action was enough to make the poo problem vanish too.
简单的行动威胁就足以让便便问题消失。
So there are still some hurt feelings in the building.
所以大楼里仍然有一些受伤的感觉。
There's two board members who won't even acknowledge me at this point if our paths cross in the lobby.
如果我们在大厅里相遇,现在有两名董事会成员甚至不会承认我。
Yeah, they were very upset by it.
是的,他们对此感到非常沮丧。
The apartment buildings up in Nashua, New Hampshire are a very different situation.
新罕布什尔州纳舒厄的公寓楼情况却截然不同。
Lots more dogs.
还有很多狗。
All of the illegal poo was outside, where there were no closed-circuit TV cameras.
所有非法粪便都在外面,没有闭路电视摄像机。
And Debbie Logan says that the simple threat of DNA testing has had a huge effect.
黛比·洛根 (Debbie Logan) 表示,DNA 检测这一简单的威胁已经产生了巨大的影响。
I would say it only took about a month's time to see a dramatic difference once we started going, once the word started getting out there that we were doing this.
我想说,一旦我们开始行动,一旦有消息传出我们正在这样做,只花了大约一个月的时间就看到了巨大的变化。
The property has cleaned up not 100%, 99%.
物业清理得不是100%,而是99%。
Now since you've started this, how many times have you had violations that you had to investigate?
自从您开始这项工作以来,您有多少次遇到需要调查的违规行为?
We have actually fined six pet owners, and believe it or not, one of the people was a two-time offender, which is mind-boggling.
我们实际上已经对六名宠物主人处以罚款,不管你信不信,其中一人曾两次违法,这令人难以置信。
It's a pretty steep fine when we catch you.
当我们抓住你时,罚款非常高。
What did the person say the second time?
那个人第二次说了什么?
The pet owner informed me that they believed they were having problems with another tenant and they thought it was a conspiracy and that it was a setup.
宠物主人告诉我,他们认为他们与另一位房客之间存在问题,他们认为这是一个阴谋,是一个圈套。
It was staged.
这是上演的。
And did they lay out exactly how that would go?
他们是否明确说明了具体的流程?
That somebody would abduct their dog, squeeze poo out of it, and then plant it?
有人会绑架他们的狗,将其粪便挤出来,然后种植吗?
Did they lay out a whole scenario?
他们有没有列出一个完整的场景?
Actually the scenario was that they knew where they disposed of their dog droppings, and that they must have collected them in the middle of the night and then set it up on the property elsewhere, dot dot dot.
实际上,情况是他们知道他们把狗粪便处理在哪里,而且他们一定是在半夜收集的,然后把它放在其他地方,点点点。
It was hilarious.
太搞笑了。
In the last two decades, DNA evidence introduced an element of certainty to our criminal justice system.
在过去的二十年里,DNA 证据为我们的刑事司法系统带来了确定性因素。
Wrongly convicted men were sprung from prison.
被错误定罪的人被从监狱中释放出来。
There was a clarity where things had been cloudy and ambiguous.
原本模糊不清的事情现在变得清晰起来。
And Debbie says that it's the certainty that's the most novel thing about doggy DNA testing, and it comes at such a cheap price and removes her from the he said/she said world of tenant disputes that's the bane of a property manager's existence.
黛比说,确定性是狗狗 DNA 测试最新颖的地方,而且它的价格如此便宜,让她摆脱了他说/她说的租户纠纷世界,这是物业经理存在的祸根。
It's her favorite thing about the doggy DNA program, the certainty.
她最喜欢狗狗 DNA 项目的一点就是确定性。
If people don't pay their $100 fines within a month, Debbie says that she'll start the eviction process.
黛比说,如果人们在一个月内不缴纳 100 美元的罚款,她将启动驱逐程序。
She's not kidding around.
她不是在开玩笑。
She runs a tight ship.
她管理严密。
But it hasn't come to that yet.
但事情还没有到那一步。
Coming up, what to do when your neighborhood watch is low-rent wise guys.
接下来,当你的邻居监视的是低租金的聪明人时该怎么办。
We have practical tips.
我们有实用的技巧。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International when our program continues.
一分钟后,芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our show of course we choose a theme, bringing different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然,每周我们的节目都会选择一个主题,并围绕该主题带来不同类型的故事。
Today's show, Neighborhood Watch, stories of people deciding if they're going to look out for their neighbors or not.
今天的节目《邻里守望》讲述了人们决定是否要照顾邻居的故事。
And now we have arrived at act three of our show.
现在我们已经到了节目的第三幕了。
Act Three, Wary Home Companions.
第三幕,警惕家庭同伴。
Emily Feldman has lived in the same house for almost 40 years, a three-bedroom on a corner lot in the small middle-class suburb of Fair Lawn, New Jersey.
艾米丽·费尔德曼 (Emily Feldman) 已经在同一栋房子里住了近 40 年了,这栋三居室位于新泽西州费尔劳恩 (Fair Lawn) 中产阶级小郊区的街角地段。
It's the same house where she raised her two kids.
这是她抚养两个孩子的同一所房子。
Her kids aren't really kids anymore.
她的孩子不再是真正的孩子了。
Her son Scott is 39, and he has autism.
她的儿子斯科特今年 39 岁,患有自闭症。
And Emily is in a situation that a lot of parents like her get into.
艾米丽正面临着很多像她这样的父母所遇到的情况。
She's a widow.
她是个寡妇。
And though she is a robust 67, she's getting older, so she needs to think about what's going to happen to Scott.
尽管她已经 67 岁了,身体很健壮,但她正在变老,所以她需要考虑斯科特会发生什么。
Who's going to look after him after she's gone?
她走了之后谁来照顾他?
The solution that she came up with is ambitious, and it's unusual, and it's going to be difficult.
她提出的解决方案雄心勃勃,而且不寻常,而且会很困难。
And it raises the question, just how much should we expect from our neighbors?
这就提出了一个问题,我们应该对邻居有多少期望?
Ruth Padawer tells the story.
露丝·帕达沃讲述了这个故事。
Emily's plan actually has two parts, and one of them is a real long shot.
艾米丽的计划实际上有两个部分,其中之一是一个真正的远景。
She's trying to recruit volunteers from all over Fair Lawn.
她正试图从费尔劳恩各地招募志愿者。
Neighbors, strangers, anyone who is willing to sign up to be Scott's friend, to serve collectively as Scott's surrogate mom after Emily herself is gone.
邻居、陌生人、任何愿意成为斯科特朋友的人,在艾米丽去世后共同充当斯科特的代孕妈妈。
But first she had to lay the foundation.
但首先她必须打好基础。
She'd already made sure Scott knew how to drive and cook and shop for his own food.
她已经确保斯科特知道如何开车、如何做饭以及如何购买自己的食物。
But at 38, he was still living at home.
但38岁的他仍然住在家里。
So she bought Scott a house, basically so he could have a trial run at living on his own.
所以她给斯科特买了一套房子,基本上是为了让他可以尝试自己的生活。
I wanted to be there for the mistakes, because I felt that by the time something happens to me, he would know that he's fine.
我想见证错误,因为我觉得当我发生什么事时,他会知道他很好。
I mean I'm here.
我的意思是我在这里。
I can make sure it's going right and make those corrections, that nobody will have that quote "burden." I don't want anyone to have that responsibility.
我可以确保它进展顺利并做出这些更正,这样任何人都不会承受这句话的“负担”。我不希望任何人承担这样的责任。
So this way I'll see it.
所以这样我就会看到它。
Emily couldn't have a better vantage point.
艾米丽没有比这更好的视角了。
Scott's house is smack across the street from her.
斯科特的房子就在她的街对面。
It's a cute Cape Cod with essentially the same floor plan as the house where he grew up, except this one's his.
这是一栋可爱的科德角房子,平面图与他长大的房子基本相同,只是这个是他的。
On the summer day when Scott gave me a tour of his new place, he had lived there only a few days.
夏天的一天,斯科特带我参观了他的新住处,他在那里只住了几天。
This is the football pillow I got from Walgreens for myself, and this ladybug pillow I got from Bed Bath & Beyond.
这是我从 Walgreens 为自己买的足球枕头,还有我从 Bed Bath & Beyond 买的瓢虫枕头。
I was going to use it for my bedroom, but it looks better on this sofa here.
我本来打算把它用在我的卧室里,但放在这张沙发上看起来更好。
The house became available last spring after the previous owner died.
去年春天,前房主去世后,这栋房子就可供使用了。
Emily's a school teacher on a limited budget, but she snagged a 1% mortgage for Scott through a state program for disabled adults.
艾米丽是一名预算有限的学校老师,但她通过州残疾人计划为斯科特获得了 1% 的抵押贷款。
He makes the payments with his Social Security income.
他用他的社会保障收入来支付。
The house is very tidy, but the setup is kind of strange.
房子很整洁,但布置有点奇怪。
It looks like what a 10-year-old boy might come up with if he had the chance to live on his own.
这看起来就像一个 10 岁男孩如果有机会独立生活的话可能会想出的办法。
There's a dolphin nightlight in the bedroom, a list on the wall of US Presidents' birthdays and birth places that he got off the Internet, and tons of Disney DVDs and stuffed animals throughout the house.
卧室里有一盏海豚小夜灯,墙上挂着他从互联网上获取的美国总统生日和出生地的清单,房子里到处都是迪士尼 DVD 和毛绒玩具。
In the kitchen, Scott's taped hooks on the outside of each cabinet door and then hung a cooking utensil on each one.
在厨房里,斯科特在每个柜门的外侧都贴了胶带挂钩,然后在每个柜门上挂了一个炊具。
It's practical, but it looks a bit surreal, as if the ladles and spatulas simply floated out of the drawers and got stuck on their way to the ceiling.
它很实用,但看起来有点超现实,就好像勺子和抹刀只是从抽屉里飘出来,然后卡在天花板上。
It's easier for me to know it's there when I need it and I don't have to mix it up in the drawer, because we don't have enough drawers to separate all of these.
当我需要它时,我更容易知道它在那里,而且我不必把它放在抽屉里,因为我们没有足够的抽屉来分开所有这些。
Not surprisingly, Scott's had a few mishaps since he moved in.
毫不奇怪,自从斯科特搬进来以来,他就遇到了一些不幸。
Early on he ripped out the metal tracking for all the closet doors because he didn't know what they were for and then dumped them at the recycling depot.
早些时候,他撕掉了所有壁橱门上的金属轨道,因为他不知道它们的用途,然后将它们扔到回收站。
And last month he strung an extension cord across the living room floor, then threw a blanket over it to cover it up.
上个月,他在客厅地板上拉了一根延长线,然后在上面盖上了一条毯子。
It took a while for Emily to convince him what a bad idea it was and that he should just tuck it under the carpet.
艾米丽花了一段时间才说服他这是一个多么糟糕的主意,他应该把它藏在地毯下面。
It's as if now that Scott's in his own place, every day is the dress rehearsal for Emily's death, another day where she has a glimpse of how Scott will live without her.
就好像现在斯科特在自己的地方,每一天都是艾米丽死亡的彩排,又是她可以瞥见没有她的情况下斯科特将如何生活的一天。
Emily thought that once Scott got into his own house, the hard part would be over.
艾米丽认为一旦斯科特进入自己的房子,困难的部分就会结束。
But Scott has a tendency to isolate himself, and Emily worries the house gives him the perfect cave to disappear into.
但斯科特有孤立自己的倾向,艾米丽担心这所房子给了他一个完美的洞穴来消失。
She's afraid that once she's gone, he'll withdraw, spend days without talking with anyone, and wind up feeling even more depressed, which he's done in the past.
她担心一旦她走了,他就会变得孤僻,几天不与任何人说话,最后会感到更加沮丧,就像他过去那样。
So Emily wants to recruit people to check in on him, help him solve problems, take him out for a game of ping pong.
所以艾米丽想找人来检查他,帮助他解决问题,带他出去打乒乓球。
She could use state funds to hire a caretaker or place him in a group home, but Scott's always hated following someone else's rules, so much so that used to hurl the TV and yank the toilet seats off their hinges when he felt boxed in.
她可以用国家资金聘请一名看门人,或者把他安置在集体之家,但斯科特总是讨厌遵守别人的规则,以至于当他感到被困住时,他会扔掉电视,把马桶座圈从铰链上拉下来。
I don't like people telling me what to do.
我不喜欢别人告诉我该做什么。
People just like to steal my rights by annoying me with commands and threats.
人们只是喜欢通过命令和威胁来骚扰我来窃取我的权利。
Emily spent the whole summer working diligently for Scott, trying to find volunteers who could create a safety net for after she's gone.
艾米丽整个夏天都在为斯科特辛勤工作,试图找到志愿者,为她去世后建立一个安全网。
She wants volunteers instead of paid helpers, not just because of the expense, but because she believes volunteers will be devoted to Scott, not a paycheck.
她想要志愿者而不是付费帮手,不仅仅是因为费用,而且因为她相信志愿者将致力于斯科特,而不是薪水。
She's not expecting anyone to be his mom, but she is hoping that if enough people step forward, Scott will be OK.
她并不期望任何人成为他的妈妈,但她希望如果有足够多的人挺身而出,斯科特会没事的。
What I want to do is bring in as many people.
我想做的就是引进尽可能多的人。
I'm going to even ask somebody from the police.
我什至要去问警察局的人。
I want them to know he's here.
我想让他们知道他在这里。
Believe me, by the time I'm not here, I want to know that people are there for him in some way.
相信我,当我不在这里时,我想知道人们以某种方式支持他。
And they don't have to do the work.
而且他们不必做这项工作。
It's just look in and if you see something's not right, there are other people to call.
只是看看,如果你发现有什么不对劲,可以给其他人打电话。
You don't have to do anything.
你不需要做任何事。
You don't have to spend any money.
你不必花任何钱。
It's just being there.
它只是在那里。
I can't plan out everything.
我无法计划好一切。
I'm not stupid.
我并不傻。
But what I can plan out, I want to.
但我能计划的,我愿意。
All right.
好的。
I made this flier to put up in places.
我制作了这张传单来张贴在一些地方。
If you notice, the letters are very big.
如果你注意到的话,这些字母很大。
"Big brother volunteer wanted." And then, "High-functioning young man needs a friend to accompany him to movies or bowling, the recreation center."
“招募志愿者大哥。”然后,“高功能的年轻人需要一个朋友陪他看电影或打保龄球、娱乐中心。”
A week earlier, Emily had stopped in at Benny's Luncheonette, the diner around the corner from where she and Scott live.
一周前,艾米丽去了本尼午餐餐厅,这家餐厅就在她和斯科特住的地方的拐角处。
She asked if she could post a flyer saying, "Autistic man wants friends." The owner thought the autism reference might scare people off.
她询问是否可以张贴一张传单,上面写着“自闭症男子想要朋友”。店主认为自闭症的提及可能会吓跑人们。
So today, Emily comes back with her new version and tapes it to the door.
所以今天,艾米丽带着她的新版本回来,并将其贴在门上。
She spends the next several hours working her way through town with a grocery bag full of flyers.
接下来的几个小时里,她提着装满传单的购物袋穿过城镇。
She heads into the police station.
她走进警察局。
Is there somebody that I could speak with?
有我可以交谈的人吗?
It's not a dangerous matter.
这不是什么危险的事情。
I was wondering if they have a Big Brother organization.
我想知道他们是否有一个“老大哥”组织。
Emily makes her pitch through a thick layer of glass, leaning in to be sure the cop on the other side can hear her.
艾米丽穿过一层厚厚的玻璃,倾身确保另一边的警察能听到她的声音。
But I was thinking even if they don't have an organization, would there be any policemen, young or old or whatever, who would want to be a friend, a big brother, look in on him.
但我在想,即使他们没有组织,是否会有任何警察,无论年轻或年长或其他什么,愿意成为朋友、大哥,来监视他。
Nothing's coming to my head right now as far as a referral for you.
我现在脑子里没有想到要推荐你。
The dispatcher gives Emily the number for the community policing officer.
调度员向艾米丽提供了社区警官的电话号码。
That's not particularly promising, but Emily is undeterred.
这并不是特别有希望,但艾米丽并没有被吓倒。
Next step, the town senior center.
下一步,镇老年中心。
There she spins things differently to play up what Scott has to offer, not just what he needs.
在那里,她以不同的方式处理事情,以发挥斯科特所提供的东西,而不仅仅是他需要的东西。
She trots out every possible lure she can think of.
她用尽了她能想到的所有可能的诱饵。
She tells the director that Scott likes old people.
她告诉导演斯科特喜欢老人。
He admires them because he thinks they're older and they know more, more about history and their experience of Presidents.
他钦佩他们,因为他认为他们年纪更大,而且对历史和总统经历了解得更多、更多。
And they were born at a time when there were the Presidents that he never knew.
他们出生的时候,还有他从未认识的总统。
So to me it felt like it could do something nice for a person who maybe lost their wife or who's alone sitting here.
所以对我来说,这感觉对于一个可能失去妻子或独自坐在这里的人来说,它可以做一些好事。
And now they can have somebody.
现在他们可以有人了。
Maybe they don't drive and they need someone to pick up a quart of milk.
也许他们不开车,需要有人去拿一夸脱牛奶。
He would do things like that, you know what I mean?
他会做那样的事情,你明白我的意思吗?
And now he has a house.
现在他有房子了。
They could come over, and he could teach them some things.
他们可以过来,他可以教他们一些东西。
OK.
好的。
Emily Feldman He's good with the computer and stuff.
艾米莉·费尔德曼(Emily Feldman) 他很擅长计算机之类的东西。
Great.
伟大的。
I'll post this.
我会发布这个。
Ruth Padawer I worried that the director was just sending her flyer to bulletin board purgatory.
露丝·帕达沃(Ruth Padawer) 我担心导演只是把她的传单送进公告牌炼狱。
She could've offered to announce Emily's proposal during the daily lunch program or the all day Bingo games.
她本可以在每日午餐或全天宾果游戏期间宣布艾米丽的求婚。
Next Emily heads to the mayor's office.
接下来艾米丽前往市长办公室。
She's been at this for hours, and she's clearly getting frazzled.
她已经这么做了好几个小时了,显然她已经疲惫不堪了。
I wanted to ask.
我想问。
I've been really trying for the longest time, and I have been trying in the hardest way possible to get volunteers, people who would stop in on him.
我已经努力了很长时间,也一直在尽最大努力寻找志愿者,那些愿意来帮助他的人。
The two clerks behind the counter seem uncomfortable, maybe a bit embarrassed about how blatantly Emily's pleading.
柜台后面的两个店员看起来很不舒服,也许对艾米丽如此明目张胆的恳求感到有点尴尬。
So I just felt that because the mayor is the mayor, that he has to know people.
所以我就觉得,因为市长就是市长,他就必须要认识人。
He's the mayor, you know?
他是市长,你知道吗?
I just feel that way about it and I would love to see somebody step up and say, I'm going to try and help you.
我就是这么想的,我很乐意看到有人站出来说,我会尽力帮助你。
The clerks suggest Emily try calling the Human Services Department or the Health Department or the Rotary Club.
工作人员建议艾米丽尝试致电公共服务部、卫生部门或扶轮社。
Emily tells them she has tried those things.
艾米丽告诉他们她已经尝试过这些事情。
She has also tried the town's high school, the local college, and our congressmen, and gotten nowhere.
她还尝试过镇上的高中、当地的大学和我们的国会议员,但一无所获。
During her 20 minutes with the clerks, it's hard to ignore her rising sense of panic about what will happen to Scott if volunteers don't come through.
在与工作人员相处的 20 分钟里,我们很难忽视她日益强烈的恐慌感,担心如果志愿者不来,斯科特将会遭遇什么。
And the day comes that I'm not here, it would just be nice if people just knew who he was.
当我不在这里的那一天到来时,如果人们知道他是谁,那就太好了。
I don't want him to be a prisoner in his own house.
我不想让他成为自己家里的囚犯。
You know what I'm saying?
你知道我在说什么吗?
You know what, we'll also do our Office of Emergency Management.
你知道吗,我们还将设立应急管理办公室。
They have an emergency phone chain and all, and if someone has special needs.
他们有紧急电话链等等,如果有人有特殊需要的话。
A couple months after Emily knocked on doors and put up flyers, I checked in with her to see how things were going.
艾米丽挨家挨户张贴传单几个月后,我向她询问情况,了解情况进展如何。
Despite her efforts, not a single person had responded to her appeals in town.
尽管她做出了努力,镇上却没有一个人响应她的呼吁。
Your plan was this two-pronged plan.
你的计划是双管齐下的计划。
One, get him the house.
一、给他买房子。
And two, get volunteers to be the safety net underneath him.
第二,让志愿者成为他下面的安全网。
Obviously the house part has worked out.
显然,房子部分已经解决了。
Beautifully.
漂亮极了。
Ruth Padawer How about the other part?
露丝·帕达沃 其他部分怎么样?
The other part hasn't worked out.
另一部分还没有解决。
It's funny.
很有趣。
I thought about that too, how I was all gung ho that all of this would just fall into place.
我也想到了这一点,我多么热切地希望所有这一切都会水到渠成。
And I got tired of asking is what happened.
我厌倦了询问发生了什么。
It wore me out.
这让我筋疲力尽。
I really didn't want to beg people.
我实在是不想求人。
I figured the story was good enough, you know what I mean?
我觉得这个故事已经足够好了,你明白我的意思吗?
And because you see it on television.
因为你在电视上看到过。
You know you do.
你知道你会的。
You see them push the bus.
你看到他们推公共汽车。
Here's the bus.
这是公共汽车。
I said, "I've never seen a bus." I'm waiting for the bus to come.
我说:“我从来没有见过公共汽车。”我在等公共汽车来。
Oh you don't know that program on television?
哦,你不知道电视上有这个节目吗?
Emily explained she's talking about Extreme Makeover Home Edition, the ABC reality show where tradespeople, aided by volunteers in the community, renovate the house of a family suffering from hardship.
艾米丽解释说,她说的是美国广播公司的《极限改造家庭版》真人秀节目,在节目中,商人在社区志愿者的帮助下,翻新了一个贫困家庭的房屋。
A family like Emily's.
像艾米丽这样的家庭。
Every episode, the producers send the family on a week-long vacation, and when they return, a giant tour bus is hiding the spiffed up house.
每一集,制片人都会让一家人去度一周的假期,当他们回来时,一辆巨大的旅游巴士正隐藏着这座华丽的房子。
And then they go, "Move the bus!" And all the neighbors are there.
然后他们说:“移动公共汽车!”所有的邻居都在那里。
And the whole neighborhood actually pitches in and helps.
整个社区都积极参与并提供帮助。
And it's like, wow.
就像,哇。
They did this for this family.
他们这样做是为了这个家庭。
Isn't this nice?
这不是很好吗?
I mean, it really would be beautiful, because you do get tired.
我的意思是,这真的很美,因为你确实会累。
But I can't walk away from it, and I can't just turn my back on it either.
但我无法摆脱它,我也无法拒绝它。
My producer, Jonathan, and I asked Emily why she thought the community wasn't responding the way she'd expected.
我的制作人乔纳森和我问艾米丽为什么她认为社区没有按照她预期的方式做出反应。
Could it be that people were afraid of the responsibility of having someone rely on them or all the messy emotions that went along with that?
难道人们害怕有人依赖他们的责任或者随之而来的所有混乱的情绪吗?
She said she didn't think so.
她说她不这么认为。
But then she started talking about how a while back, she and another teacher helped out a colleague, a 50-year-old woman dying of lung cancer.
但随后她开始谈论不久前,她和另一位老师如何帮助一位同事,一位死于肺癌的 50 岁女性。
They drove her to doctors' appointments, hauled her and her oxygen tank to Broadway shows, and sat with her in her last days.
他们开车送她去看医生,拖着她和她的氧气罐去百老汇演出,并在她最后的日子里陪伴着她。
And the hard part was I knew she was going to die.
最困难的是我知道她会死。
That was difficult, dealing with that and being with it.
处理它并接受它是很困难的。
It took a lot out of me very honestly.
老实说,这让我付出了很多。
And would I do it again so readily?
我会如此轻易地再做一次吗?
No. I did it and I'm glad I did it, and she had a wonderful spirit, but, God, I can't give that much of myself.
不,我做到了,我很高兴我做到了,而且她有一种很棒的精神,但是,上帝,我不能付出那么多。
It sounds like you do understand why people would be reluctant.
听起来你确实明白为什么人们会不愿意。
I do.
我愿意。
I do.
我愿意。
I understand, because you put yourself in it emotionally, you know?
我理解,因为你把自己投入到情感之中,知道吗?
So you're right about the fact that a lot of people are aware of that.
所以你说得对,很多人都意识到了这一点。
What if I get involved here and I don't want to be involved?
如果我参与其中而我不想参与怎么办?
And so there is that.
就是这样。
People stay clear of it maybe for that reason.
也许正是因为这个原因,人们才避开它。
The reality is that Scott does need more than just an occasional pal.
事实上,斯科特需要的不仅仅是一个偶尔的朋友。
Nearly every night for years, he's gone to Emily wanting to talk about pain from the past, like being taunted and rejected in high school.
多年来,他几乎每天晚上都会去找艾米丽谈论过去的痛苦,比如在高中时被嘲笑和拒绝。
"Why didn't people understand?" he asks.
“为什么人们不明白?”他问道。
"Why am I autistic?"
“为什么我是自闭症?”
See I'm not happy about what I'm born with.
瞧,我对我与生俱来的东西并不满意。
I claimed that remark because of the way people mistreated me.
我之所以这么说是因为人们虐待我。
What I'm trying to say is that because I was born with autism, I usually have a lot of fear and fright about life.
我想说的是,因为我天生患有自闭症,所以我通常对生活有很多恐惧和恐惧。
Even today I get a little scared of people sometimes.
即使在今天,我有时还是有点怕人。
It's that fear of socializing that sabotaged the one nibble of interest that Emily got.
正是对社交的恐惧破坏了艾米丽的一点点兴趣。
She had placed an ad on Craigslist seeking a volunteer to work with a high-functioning autistic man.
她在 Craigslist 上登了一则广告,寻找一名志愿者来帮助一名高功能自闭症患者。
Only one person answered Emily's ad, a 62-year-old unemployed construction worker from the Philippines named Pru Dumlao.
只有一个人回复了艾米丽的广告,他是一位来自菲律宾的 62 岁失业建筑工人,名叫普鲁·杜姆劳 (Pru Dumlao)。
I was looking for a job.
我正在找工作。
It's very hard to find a job.
找工作非常难。
So I have to do something.
所以我必须做点什么。
And then I saw him and I think, this one's good.
然后我看到他,我想,这个很好。
Pru called a lot at first, and his enthusiasm made Emily uneasy, suspicious even.
普鲁一开始打了很多电话,他的热情让艾米丽感到不安,甚至怀疑。
She wondered why on Earth a pure stranger would want to help out Scott.
她想知道为什么一个纯粹的陌生人会想要帮助斯科特。
This was an odd turn of events.
这是一个奇怪的事件转折。
Here she was getting exactly what she'd wanted, and it creeped her out.
在这里,她得到了她想要的东西,这让她感到害怕。
Eventually Emily realized Pru had no family here and was probably just lonely and bored.
最终艾米丽意识到普露在这里没有家人,可能只是感到孤独和无聊。
She ended up inviting him to hang out with Scott.
她最终邀请他和斯科特一起出去玩。
Hello!
你好!
How are you?
你好吗?
Come in, come in.
进来吧,进来吧。
Scott was waiting for you.
斯科特正在等你。
Emily invited Pru to go to the town recreation center with Scott.
艾米丽邀请普鲁和斯科特一起去镇上的娱乐中心。
By then Pru had landed a full-time job, but he agreed to join Scott just the same.
那时普鲁已经找到了一份全职工作,但他仍然同意加入斯科特。
Scott drove Pru and me to the rec center super cautiously.
斯科特非常小心地开车送普露和我去健身中心。
Pru sat in the passenger seat looking totally at ease.
普露坐在副驾驶座上,看上去十分轻松。
Scott rambled on about fire and fire fighters, and it was really nice the way Pru tried to engage them.
斯科特漫无目的地谈论着火和消防员,普鲁试图与他们接触的方式真的很好。
He stuck with Scott.
他和斯科特在一起。
He didn't talk down to him.
他没有居高临下地跟他说话。
A fire chief can give you complete information.
消防队长可以为您提供完整的信息。
You met the fire chief here?
你在这里见过消防队长吗?
Scott Feldman There's a fire chief on--
斯科特·费尔德曼(Scott Feldman)有一位消防队长——
You met him already?
你已经见过他了吗?
Scott Feldman I think the fire chief is somewhere.
斯科特·费尔德曼 我认为消防队长就在某个地方。
At the rec center, Scott and Pru ended up at the air hockey table.
在娱乐中心,斯科特和普鲁最后来到了空气曲棍球桌前。
Scott got totally into it.
斯科特完全投入其中。
In fact, he was beaming.
事实上,他满脸笑容。
By then Emily had arrived too and she was stunned.
这时艾米丽也到了,她惊呆了。
She'd almost never seen him that happy.
她几乎从来没有见过他这么高兴。
Pru and Scott kept laughing every time they scored.
普鲁和斯科特每次得分时都会笑个不停。
But 20 minutes after they arrived, smack in the midst of the action, Scott abruptly announced he wanted to go home and left.
但他们到达20分钟后,正当行动进行到一半时,斯科特突然宣布他想回家并离开。
Emily and Pru haven't talked since that day at the rec center.
自从那天在娱乐中心之后,艾米丽和普露就没有说过话。
The experience embarrassed Emily.
这次经历让艾米丽感到尴尬。
Here she was begging people to spend time with Scott, and then his autism interfered.
在这里,她恳求人们花时间陪伴斯科特,然后他的自闭症就出现了干扰。
It makes him afraid of spending too much time with people he doesn't know well.
这让他害怕花太多时间和不熟悉的人在一起。
It's another roadblock, but for now maybe it doesn't matter.
这是另一个障碍,但现在也许并不重要。
Scott's been doing more and more on his own, and he's actually reaching out to neighbors for help all without Emily.
斯科特自己做的事情越来越多,而且他实际上在没有艾米丽的情况下向邻居寻求帮助。
Just having the house has changed him, made him more confident and even more sociable.
仅仅拥有房子就改变了他,让他更加自信,甚至更加善于交际。
A few weeks age when he was out raking leaves, he knocked on the door of his 84-year-old neighbor and offered to rake her yard too.
几周大的时候,当他出去耙树叶时,他敲响了 84 岁邻居的门,提出也帮她耙院子。
He asked another neighborhood, a guy he barely knew, to help him haul a table, and the guy said, "Sure." He started to really rely on a man who lives across the street.
他请另一个邻居(一个他几乎不认识的人)帮他拖一张桌子,那人说:“当然可以。”他开始真正依赖一个住在街对面的男人。
A bunch of times Scott's even sat on the guy's front steps late at night, chatting with him about real stuff, like Scott's frustrations.
有很多次,斯科特甚至在深夜坐在那家伙的门前台阶上,和他谈论一些真实的事情,比如斯科特的挫败感。
And the other day when the guy heard Emily was going out of town for a few days, he offered to look in on Scott.
有一天,当那家伙听说艾米丽要出城几天时,他主动提出去看看斯科特。
Emily didn't even need to ask.
艾米丽甚至不需要问。
It's not the bus, but it's a start.
这不是公共汽车,但它是一个开始。
Ruth Padawer writes for the New York Times Magazine.
露丝·帕达沃 (Ruth Padawer) 为《纽约时报》杂志撰稿。
[MUSIC - "NEW KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD" BY MODERN LOVERS]
[音乐 - 现代爱好者的“新型社区”]
Sometimes a neighborhood watch is targeted at watching just one person.
有时,邻里监视的目标只是监视一个人。
That happened to Jim O'Grady, and he was not happy about it at the time.
吉姆·奥格雷迪就遇到了这种事,他当时对此很不高兴。
He told the story of it onstage at the Moth.
他在飞蛾剧院的舞台上讲述了这个故事。
Just a note before we start.
在我们开始之前请注意一下。
We beep out an occasional curse word in this story and also we beep out the name of Jim's nemesis, or at least his nemesis for the purposes of the story.
在这个故事中,我们偶尔会发出咒骂声,我们也会发出吉姆的宿敌的名字,或者至少是为了故事的目的而说出他的宿敌的名字。
Here's Jim O'Grady.
请听吉姆·奥格雷迪的报道。
It's the mid-'90s, and I'm living out in a beach bungalow.
那是 90 年代中期,我住在海滩平房里。
And I look out the window one day and I see three large men in black suits and shades standing in front of a Lincoln Town Car doing this.
有一天,我向窗外望去,看到三个穿着黑色西装、戴着墨镜的大个子男人站在一辆林肯城市轿车前做这件事。
And I know right away they're there to do one of three things, beat me up, kill me, or more likely, make me think that they're there to beat me up or kill me.
我立刻就知道他们在那里要做三件事之一,殴打我,杀了我,或更可能的是,让我认为他们在那里殴打我或杀了我。
So I flash back right away to the week before where I had bumped into [BLEEP] in the local diner.
所以我立刻回想起前一周我在当地餐馆碰见了[BLEEP]。
And seeing me had reminded him that the day before I had been on the local news insulting him.
看到我让他想起前一天我在当地新闻上侮辱了他。
So he raised his slicked head from his steak and eggs and he said to me, "You should remember that I can have you taken care of." And there was something in the way he said taken care of that I knew he didn't mean it tenderly.
于是他从牛排和鸡蛋上抬起光滑的头,对我说:“你应该记住,我可以照顾你。”他说“照顾”的语气里有某种东西,我知道他的意思并不是温柔的。
So I'm living at the time in a beautiful place, tree-lined lanes.
所以我当时住在一个美丽的地方,绿树成荫的小巷。
My neighbors are retirees and railroad workers and immigrants.
我的邻居是退休人员、铁路工人和移民。
The problem is we're all in court fighting [BLEEP] about whether the residents should stay or go.
问题是我们都在法庭上争论居民应该留下还是离开。
We're fighting for our homes.
我们正在为我们的家园而战。
The other problem is that I am very poor at risk assessment.
另一个问题是我的风险评估能力很差。
So it's my name on the op-ed calling [BLEEP] greedy, and it is my face on TV calling him an aesthetic cretin.
所以我在专栏上的名字叫[BLEEP]贪婪,我在电视上的脸叫他审美白痴。
I was very proud of that phrase.
我为这句话感到非常自豪。
And that's how come three men are standing outside my window.
这就是为什么三个男人站在我的窗外。
And I try to work.
我努力工作。
I'm a writer.
我是一名作家。
I go back.
我回去吧。
But I'm going back and forth to the window and looking out over hours.
但我会在窗前来回观察几个小时。
And as I'm doing this, I think two things.
当我这样做时,我想到了两件事。
I have a simple thought process.
我有一个简单的思考过程。
One, being a wiseguy is [BLEEP] boring.
第一,做一个聪明人[BLEEP]很无聊。
The whole time they're standing there listening to the bird chirp and checking out their man manicures.
她们一直站在那里,听着鸟儿的鸣叫,看着她们的男士美甲。
And the other thing I think is about a guy I'd read about named Clarence Jordan, a white man who had founded an interracial farming commune in rural Georgia in 1942.
我想到的另一件事是关于我读到的一个名叫克拉伦斯·乔丹 (Clarence Jordan) 的人,他是一名白人,于 1942 年在佐治亚州农村建立了一个跨种族农业公社。
And this got the attention of the local Ku Klux Klan.
这引起了当地三K党的注意。
So every now and then at night they would come by, shoot a shotgun, throw a firebomb at the houses.
所以晚上他们时不时地过来,用猎枪射击,向房屋投掷燃烧弹。
So Clarence had a problem, but Clarence was a disciple of non-violence.
所以克拉伦斯有一个问题,但克拉伦斯是非暴力的信徒。
So he did one thing that you do, is you try to find some mundane human activity that you share with your enemy and use it to make them see you as a person.
所以他做了你所做的一件事,就是你试图找到一些你与敌人分享的平凡的人类活动,并用它来让他们把你视为一个人。
So one day he's at the local post office and he sees some Klan guys and he goes over and he says, "Hey, fellas.
有一天,他在当地的邮局,看到了一些三K党的人,他走过去说:“嘿,伙计们。
Are you married?" And they go, "Yeah." And he says, "Children?
你结婚了吗?”他们说:“是的。”他说:“孩子们?
Do you have children?" They go, "Sure." And he says, "Well you know how when a baby wakes in the night and it's fussing and you just can't get it to go back to sleep?
你有孩子吗?”他们说:“当然。”他说:“你知道当婴儿在半夜醒来并且闹腾而你却无法让他重新入睡时会发生什么吗?
And you're up until dawn?" And they say, "Oh, yeah.
你还熬到天亮吗?”他们说:“哦,是的。
God." And he said, "Well when you shoot at us it wakes the babies.
天哪。”他说:“好吧,当你向我们开枪时,婴儿们就会被吵醒。
And we have a hard time getting them to go back to sleep."
我们很难让他们重新入睡。”
So I take that thought and I combine it with my complete lack of common sense.
所以我接受了这个想法,并将其与我完全缺乏常识结合起来。
And instead of calling the cops, I go out my front door.
我没有报警,而是走出前门。
And I go up to the three guys.
我走向那三个人。
And I say to the big guy in the middle, "You've been out here for a while now.
我对中间的大个子说:“你已经来这里有一段时间了。
Do you need the bathroom?" And nobody moves a muscle.
你需要上厕所吗?”没有人动一动肌肉。
And the big guy says, "No, we're good." And I think, [BLEEP] Clarence Jordan.
大个子说:“不,我们很好。”我想,[BLEEP] 克拉伦斯·乔丹。
Now what?
现在怎么办?
And I said, "Well, are you hungry?" And this is a quote.
我说:“嗯,你饿吗?”这是一句引言。
This is an exact quote from the big guy.
这完全是大佬的原话。
He says, "Well to be honest with you I would not say no to a bowl of lentil soup."
他说:“老实说,我不会拒绝一碗扁豆汤。”
And that's how it starts.
事情就是这样开始的。
20 minutes later, the four of us are around my little kitchen table.
20 分钟后,我们四个人围坐在我的小厨房桌子旁。
And it turns out they're not even mobsters.
事实证明他们甚至不是黑帮。
They're unemployed construction workers.
他们是失业的建筑工人。
They've taken this job from [BLEEP] because they're hoping he'll hire them to build the McMansions once he kicks us off the land and razes our houses.
他们从[BLEEP]手中夺走了这份工作,因为他们希望一旦他把我们赶出土地并夷平我们的房屋,他就会雇用他们建造麦克豪宅。
So the soup is not enough to get them on my side, but it's enough that they tell me [BLEEP]'s a prick who pays them next to nothing and made them get man manicures because he thought it would make them threatening.
所以汤不足以让他们站在我这边,但足以让他们告诉我[BLEEP]是个混蛋,他几乎不付钱给他们,还让他们去做男士美甲,因为他认为这会让他们感到威胁。
And so the end of the story is we came up with a system for the afternoons when it got really tedious for these guys.
所以故事的结尾是我们想出了一个下午的系统,因为下午对于这些人来说真的很乏味。
One of them would take the car to the end of the lane and be the lookout, and the other two would hang on my couch, watch my TV, take a nap.
他们中的一个会把车开到车道的尽头,充当瞭望员,另外两个则挂在我的沙发上,看电视,小睡一会儿。
And I was writing a book.
我正在写一本书。
I kind of liked their company.
我有点喜欢他们的公司。
And this went on for four or five days or so until [BLEEP] was satisfied that I'd been terrified enough.
这种情况持续了四五天左右,直到[BLEEP]确信我已经吓得够呛了。
And I'm not going to exaggerate and say that me and these guys became friends, because we didn't.
我不会夸张地说我和这些人成为了朋友,因为我们没有。
But I really do think.
但我确实这么认为。
I don't know.
我不知道。
Here's what I think.
这是我的想法。
We did share some mundane human activities.
我们确实分享了一些平凡的人类活动。
And I think that if [BLEEP] after that first day, after the soup, had asked them to harm me, I think they would've told him to take his $6 an hour and shove it up his [BLEEP].
我认为,如果第一天喝完汤后,[BLEEP] 要求他们伤害我,我想他们会告诉他每小时 6 美元,然后把它塞进他的 [BLEEP] 里。
Jim O'Grady.
吉姆·奥格雷迪。
He's co-author of the biography Disarmed & Dangerous: The Radical Lives and Times of Daniel and Philip Berrigan.
他是传记《解除武装与危险:丹尼尔和菲利普·贝里根的激进生活与时代》的合著者。
He was recorded at the Moth, which features personal stories told live in front of an audience.
他是在 Moth 录制的,其中包括在观众面前现场讲述的个人故事。
For more Moth stories, you can listen to the Moth Radio Hour from PRX, which airs on public radio stations across the country or you could check out the Moth's free weekly podcast at themoth.org.
欲了解更多 Moth 故事,您可以收听 PRX 的 Moth Radio Hour,该节目在全国公共广播电台播出,或者您也可以在 themoth.org 上查看 Moth 的免费每周播客。
[MUSIC - "I AM THE NEIGHBOR" BY JASON FALKNER]
[音乐 - 杰森·福克纳的《我是邻居》]
Our program today was produced by Lisa Pollak with Alex Blumberg, Ben Calhoun, Jane Feltes, Sarah Koenig, Jonathan Menjivar, Robyn Semien, Alissa Shipp, and Nancy Updike.
我们今天的节目由 Lisa Pollak 与 Alex Blumberg、Ben Calhoun、Jane Feltes、Sarah Koenig、Jonathan Menjivar、Robyn Semien、Alissa Shipp 和 Nancy Updike 共同制作。
Senior Producer for our show is Julie Snyder.
我们节目的高级制片人是朱莉·斯奈德。
Seth Lind is our Production Manager.
Seth Lind 是我们的生产经理。
Emily Condon's our Office Manager.
艾米丽·康登是我们的办公室经理。
Production help from Shawn Wen.
Shawn Wen 提供制作帮助。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] WLRN's Alicia Zuckerman wanted to record the postman, Paul, as he delivered mail at the top of our show.
[鸣谢] WLRN 的艾丽西亚·祖克曼 (Alicia Zuckerman) 希望在节目顶部录制邮递员保罗投递邮件的过程。
Ryan Knighton's story in act one was produced by Jonathan Goldstein and Mira Burt-Wintonick and Cristal Duhaime for CBC's Wire Tap.
第一幕中瑞恩·奈顿的故事由乔纳森·戈德斯坦、米拉·伯特-温托尼克和克里斯托·杜海姆为 CBC 的 Wire Tap 制作。
Our website, thisamericanlife.org.
我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
WBEZ management oversight for our show by our boss, Mr. Torey Malatia.
我们的老板 Torey Malatia 先生对我们的演出进行 WBEZ 管理监督。
All I have to say is, look out, Richard Daley, or dare I say, Rahm Emanuel.
我要说的是,小心,理查德·戴利,或者我敢说,拉姆·伊曼纽尔。
Torey is looking for somebody to see the new Harry Potter with him.
托里正在找人和他一起看新版《哈利·波特》。
I just felt that because the mayor is the mayor that he has to know people.
我只是觉得,因为市长就是市长,所以他必须要认识人。
He's the mayor.
他是市长。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作,并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。