386: Fine Print - This American Life
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Prologue Ira Glass The way that I always heard the story was that Van Halen had something in the contract that they used when they toured that said that everywhere that they went-- in every city, in every dressing room on their tour-- there had to be a bowl of M&Ms, and that the brown M&Ms had to be removed.
序言 Ira Glass 我一直听到这个故事的方式是，Van Halen 在他们巡演时使用的合同中写了一些内容，规定他们所到之处——每个城市，巡演中的每个更衣室——都必须有一碗 M&M 巧克力豆，并且必须将棕色的 M&M 巧克力豆拿走。
It's kind of a well-known story, I think.
我认为这是一个众所周知的故事。
And the way that I understood it is that it showed what divas rock stars could be, that any whim that they had would have to be met, no matter how petty.
我的理解是，它展示了摇滚明星的魅力，他们的任何突发奇想都必须得到满足，无论多么小。
You hate brown M&Ms?
你讨厌棕色巧克力豆吗？
Poof, they will cease to exist in your world.
噗，他们将不再存在于你的世界里。
And then a couple of years ago we had this band, They Might Be Giants, on our radio show.
几年前，我们的广播节目中出现了一支名为“他们可能是巨人”的乐队。
And by the way, you're listening to This American Life from WBEZ Chicago, distributed by Public Radio International.
顺便说一句，您正在收听 WBEZ 芝加哥的《This American Life》，由国际公共广播电台发行。
Anyway, we had this band on the show.
无论如何，我们有这个乐队参加演出。
And I got to know them a little bit.
我对他们有了一点了解。
And I had never talked to a touring rock musician about that story.
我从未与巡回演出的摇滚音乐家谈论过这个故事。
And I remember John Flansburgh saying to me, no, no, no, no, no. I had the meaning of the story totally wrong.
我记得约翰·弗兰斯堡对我说，不，不，不，不，不。我完全错误地理解了这个故事的含义。
This is John.
这是约翰。
I asked him to come and talk about this with me again today, here on the radio.
我请他今天再次在广播中与我谈论这件事。
He told me that the music industry name for what we were discussing was the contract rider.
他告诉我，我们正在讨论的音乐行业名称是合同骑手。
The thing that the average rock fan doesn't realize is that in the itinerant life of somebody in a rock band, they're relying on a promoter-- probably a different promoter every day-- to give them everything.
一般摇滚乐迷没有意识到的是，在摇滚乐队成员的巡回生活中，他们依靠发起人（可能每天都有不同的发起人）为他们提供一切。
And a contract rider is, basically, the entire show from beginning to end.
基本上，合同骑手是整个节目从头到尾的一部分。
I mean, you're talking about personnel.
我的意思是，你说的是人员。
You're talking about the PA.
你说的是PA。
So a lot of it is very prosaic stuff.
所以很多都是非常平淡的东西。
People really focus on the dressing room stuff.
人们真的很关注更衣室的事情。
But actually most of it is just making sure that there's, literally, enough electricity in the venue so that the show doesn't end after 10 minutes.
但实际上，大部分只是确保场地内有足够的电力，以免演出在 10 分钟后结束。
And this, Flansburgh says, was what was so ingenious about the brown M&Ms. Van Halen had this huge setup with lots of gear.
弗兰斯堡说，这就是棕色 M&M 巧克力豆的巧妙之处。范·海伦（Van Halen）拥有庞大的设施和大量的装备。
And if the local promoter didn't carefully read the contract rider, stuff could collapse.
如果当地的发起人没有仔细阅读合同附加条款，事情可能会崩溃。
It could be dangerous.
这可能很危险。
So the brown M&Ms were like the canary in the coal mine.
所以棕色的巧克力豆就像煤矿里的金丝雀。
The contract rider said that brown M&Ms were not supposed to be there.
合同骑手说棕色巧克力豆不应该出现在那里。
If they were there, look out.
如果他们在那里，请小心。
It was a very clever way to make sure that all the specifics of his contract rider were going to be met, including technical requirements, safety requirements, all the things that David Lee Roth is probably more worried about than his actual M&Ms needs.
这是一种非常聪明的方法，可以确保满足他的合同骑手的所有具体要求，包括技术要求、安全要求，以及大卫·李·罗斯可能比他实际的 M&M 巧克力需求更担心的所有事情。
Yeah, actually in his autobiography he writes this.
是的，实际上他在自传中写了这个。
I found this on snopes.com.
我在 snopes.com 上找到了这个。
He explains the M&Ms this way.
他这样解释M&M巧克力豆。
David Lee Roth writes, "Van Halen was the first band to take huge productions into third level markets."
大卫·李·罗斯 (David Lee Roth) 写道：“范·海伦是第一支将大量作品带入第三层市场的乐队。”
Tertiary markets.
三级市场。
"We'd pull up with nine 18-wheeler trucks full of gear in places where the standard was three trucks max.
“我们会用九辆装满装备的 18 轮卡车停在标准最多三辆卡车的地方。
And there were many, many technical errors, whether it was the girders couldn't support the weight, or the flooring would sink in, or the doors weren't big enough to move the gear through.
还有很多很多技术错误，无论是大梁无法支撑重量，还是地板会下陷，或者门不够大，无法让装备通过。
The contract rider read like a version of the Chinese yellow pages, because there was so much equipment, and so many human beings to make it function.
合同骑手读起来就像是中国黄页的一个版本，因为有如此多的设备和如此多的人员来使其发挥作用。
So just as a little test, in Article number 126 in the middle of nowhere was, quote, 'there will be no brown M&Ms in the backstage area upon pain of forfeiture of the show with full compensation,' end quote."
因此，就像一个小测试一样，在第 126 条中，在不知名的地方，引用了“后台区域将不会有棕色 M&M 巧克力豆，否则将被没收演出并给予全额赔偿”，引用结束。
So he writes, "When I would walk backstage, if I saw a brown M&M in that bowl, well, line check the entire production.
所以他写道，“当我走到后台时，如果我看到那个碗里有一颗棕色的 M&M，那么就排队检查整个生产过程。
Guaranteed you're going to arrive at a technical error.
保证您会遇到技术错误。
They didn't read the contract.
他们没有阅读合同。
Guaranteed you'd run into a problem.
保证你会遇到问题。
Sometimes it would threaten to destroy the whole show.
有时它会威胁到毁掉整个演出。
Sometimes, literally, life threatening."
有时，确实会危及生命。”
Wow.
哇。
Ira Glass Now when I e-mailed you to see if you wanted to come on the radio and talk about this, you said, oh, that's really a coincidence.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：现在，当我给你发电子邮件询问你是否愿意在广播中谈论这个问题时，你说，哦，这真是一个巧合。
Because you had just spent your whole day yesterday working on your contract rider?
因为你昨天刚刚花了一整天的时间来训练你的合同骑手？
Yeah, we're going out on tour for two months in the fall.
是的，我们秋天要出去巡演两个月。
And basically a couple of days ago, I was looking at the contract rider, which was 25 pages long, this crazy, Frankenstein document that-- there was some really odd vestigial stuff.
基本上几天前，我正在查看合同附加条款，它有 25 页长，这是一份疯狂的、弗兰肯斯坦式的文件——其中有一些非常奇怪的残留内容。
I actually found we have all these personnel requirements for loaders, and electricians, and fly riggers, and all these people.
事实上，我发现我们对装载机、电工、吊装工以及所有这些人员都有所有这些人员需求。
There are 30 people that the promoter is going to hire on our behalf.
发起人将代表我们雇用 30 名员工。
And they have very specific job descriptions.
他们有非常具体的工作描述。
But in only half of them did we require that they be sober.
但只有一半的人我们要求他们保持清醒。
Wait, your contract for some of them says specifically they have to be sober?
等等，你们中的一些人的合同明确规定他们必须保持清醒？
It was such a hodge-podge that in some cases-- what had happened is we had had a bunch of loaders that had come in from another show the night before that had ended at 5:00 in the morning.
这是一个大杂烩，在某些情况下，我们有一堆装载机，这些装载机是从前一天晚上凌晨 5:00 结束的另一场演出中运来的。
And they came into our show at 7:00 in the morning to, literally, do another show.
他们早上 7:00 来到我们的演出，实际上是为了再做一场演出。
And they all got drunk in the couple of hours in between.
中间的几个小时里他们都喝醉了。
So in our contract rider we said, the loaders have to be sober.
所以在我们的合同骑手中我们说，装载机必须保持清醒。
But unfortunately, the way a contract reads, it looks like you're kind of implying that everybody else can be drunk.
但不幸的是，从合同的内容来看，你似乎在暗示其他人都可以喝醉。
And no one had ever thought to cross it out.
没有人想过把它划掉。
Is there an M&Ms clause in your contract?
你们的合同中有 M&Ms 条款吗？
It's such a personal thing.
这是非常个人的事情。
It's like asking somebody what's in their medicine chest.
这就像问某人的药箱里有什么。
There are no M&Ms on our-- We have like hummus, and tabbouleh, and like a lot-- I mean, you would think it was Sarah McLachlan the way our contract rider reads.
我们的啤酒上没有巧克力豆——我们有鹰嘴豆泥、塔博勒沙拉之类的，还有很多——我的意思是，你会认为我们的合同骑手读的是莎拉·麦克拉克兰。
I mean more is there an M&Ms clause, is there a thing in your contract that you put in there to be sure that people read the contract?
我的意思是，更多的是 M&M 巧克力豆条款，你的合同中是否有一些内容可以确保人们阅读合同？
I think the first line of our contract is, "The promoter needs to call our tour manager when he gets this rider." That's basically-- just getting good communication going-- rather than bullying and threshold tests-- is the way we do it.
我认为我们合同的第一行是：“主办方在找到这名骑手后需要给我们的巡回赛经理打电话。”基本上，我们所做的就是保持良好的沟通，而不是欺凌和阈值测试。
And so if you don't get the call you know, all right.
所以，如果你没有接到电话，那也没关系。
Yeah.
是的。
And believe it or not, oftentimes they don't call.
不管你信不信，他们通常不会打电话。
They've got other things to do.
他们还有其他事情要做。
Well today on our radio show we have stories of the fine print.
今天在我们的广播节目中我们有精美的故事。
We dive into the fine print, in places where the fine print really, really matters.
我们深入研究细则，在细则真正非常重要的地方。
Act one of our show, Side Effects May Include-- Nancy Updike has the story of fine print happening at a place you might never suspect it.
我们节目的第一幕《副作用可能包括》——南希·厄普代克讲述了一个发生在您可能永远不会怀疑的地方的故事。
Act two, Occupancy May Be Revoked Without Notice.
第二幕，占用可能会被撤销，恕不另行通知。
In that story, David Rakoff brings us the fine print that could fix what therapy fails to.
在那个故事中，大卫·拉科夫（David Rakoff）为我们带来了可以解决治疗失败问题的精美文字。
Act three, Restrictions May Apply.
第三幕，可能适用限制。
We visit the place that is like a factory for our nation's most notorious fine print.
我们参观的地方就像是我们国家最臭名昭著的精美印刷品的工厂。
Act four, May Be Hazardous To Children.
第四幕，可能对儿童有害。
Susan Burton rereads the fine print that changed her childhood.
苏珊·伯顿重读了改变她童年的精美印刷品。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
A confession is not supposed to have fine print.
认罪书不应该有小字印刷。
It's supposed to state this is what happened, this is what I did, all very straightforward.
它应该说明这就是发生的事情，这就是我所做的，一切都非常简单。
But of course, all kinds of confessions come with asterisks attached.
当然，各种坦白都带有星号。
This first story is about a confession that was given in Iran in the Fall of 2004, when things were actually a bit freer than they are right now.
第一个故事是关于 2004 年秋天在伊朗的一次忏悔，当时的情况实际上比现在更自由一些。
Nancy Updike tells what happened.
南希·厄普代克讲述了发生的事情。
At 30 years old, Omid Memarian, a journalist in Iran, went where he wanted, talked to whomever he felt like talking to.
30 岁时，伊朗记者奥米德·梅马里安 (Omid Memarian) 可以去他想去的地方，与任何他想交谈的人交谈。
Reformists, hardliners, foreigners, the vice president of the world bank, why not?
改革派、强硬派、外国人、世界银行副行长，为什么不呢？
Political debate in Iran was robust.
伊朗的政治辩论很激烈。
Omid's view was, he lived in a country that had problems.
奥米德的观点是，他生活在一个有问题的国家。
And he was a critic of those problems.
他是这些问题的批评者。
But it also had a constitution, elections, some independent newspapers.
但它也有宪法、选举和一些独立报纸。
Iran wasn't North Korea.
伊朗不是朝鲜。
It wasn't Myanmar.
那不是缅甸。
In October of 2004, Omid was arrested at his office by government men in plainclothes.
2004 年 10 月，奥米德在办公室被便衣政府人员逮捕。
Didn't have badges, did have guns.
没有徽章，但有枪。
And within a few hours, Omid was sitting in an interrogation room at a prison whose name and location he didn't know.
几个小时后，奥米德坐在一所监狱的审讯室里，他不知道监狱的名字和位置。
After a while, a man walked in.
过了一会儿，一个男人走了进来。
Like 55 years old with a very short beard, and kind of calm.
55岁左右，胡子很短，性格沉稳。
And I felt that this guy might be a nice guy.
我觉得这个人可能是个好人。
But when I said hi to this guy, then he just started beating me.
但当我向这个家伙打招呼时，他就开始打我。
And I was sitting next to the wall and on a chair.
我坐在靠墙的椅子上。
And the guy took my head, and was hitting my head to the wall.
那家伙抓住了我的头，然后把我的头撞到了墙上。
And he was doing that.
他正在这样做。
And at one point I remember, the guy was asking me about my travel to the US.
我记得有一次，那家伙问我去美国旅行的情况。
In 2004, I was invited to come here to the US and give a speech.
2004年，我应邀来美国演讲。
So I got my visa.
所以我拿到了签证。
I went to Frankfurt Airport, and then somebody called my name.
我去了法兰克福机场，然后有人叫我的名字。
So they told me that my name was on the No Fly List, a list that I think Osama Bin Laden probably is on the top.
所以他们告诉我，我的名字在禁飞名单上，我认为奥萨马·本·拉登可能在这份名单上名列前茅。
So I took the first flight.
所以我乘坐了第一趟航班。
And I went back home.
我就回家了。
So the interrogator was asking me what happened in Washington, DC.
审讯者问我华盛顿特区发生了什么事。
And I said, hi, I didn't go there.
我说，嗨，我没有去那里。
I was on the No Fly List.
我在禁飞名单上。
Probably you guys are there.
想必你们也在场。
We are all on this list.
我们都在这个名单上。
And the guy said, no, we have tapes of those meetings that you had in Washington, DC.
那个人说，不，我们有你在华盛顿特区举行的那些会议的录音。
We have all the documents.
我们有所有文件。
And I said, dude, I have not been there.
我说，老兄，我没去过那里。
Look at my passport.
看看我的护照。
It doesn't show anything.
它没有显示任何东西。
There is no stamp on my passport.
我的护照上没有盖章。
At that moment I learned that they really-- Americans-- they bluff.
在那一刻我了解到他们真的——美国人——他们虚张声势。
They just bluff.
他们只是虚张声势。
And once you figured out that part of what they were doing was bluffing, was that a relief?
一旦你发现他们所做的部分是在虚张声势，你会松一口气吗？
Or was that more terrifying?
或者说这更可怕？
Did that make you feel like, I have no idea what to do?
这是否让你感觉，我不知道该怎么办？
When they bluffed, at the beginning I thought, oh, there is nothing here.
当他们虚张声势的时候，一开始我想，哦，这里什么都没有。
But the thing was, when you have to talk about something that never happened, this was much harder than to talk about something that happened.
但问题是，当你必须谈论从未发生过的事情时，这比谈论发生过的事情要困难得多。
Because when nothing was there, it was really hard to imagine that kind of incidence.
因为当什么都没有的时候，真的很难想象那种情况。
I mean, this guy was beating me, and at one point, I was on the floor.
我的意思是，这家伙在打我，有一次，我倒在了地板上。
He was hitting my stomach with his leg.
他用腿打我的肚子。
In that case, I threw up.
在那种情况下，我吐了。
And I just couldn't accept that, because I'd never been to the US.
我就是无法接受这一点，因为我从未去过美国。
Forced confessions are not a new phenomenon, more like eternal.
强迫认罪并不是什么新现象，更像是永恒的现象。
And Omid got the standard treatment-- beatings and solitary.
奥米德受到了标准的待遇——殴打和单独监禁。
But every government that forces confessions has its own variation on the process, its own way of building up its library of confessions.
但每个强迫认罪的政府在程序上都有自己的变化，都有自己建立认罪库的方式。
He gave me a kind of notebook and a pen, and asked me to start writing everything you have done over the past seven years.
他给了我一个笔记本和一支笔，让我开始写下你在过去七年里所做的一切。
And so I thought, that's fine.
所以我想，没关系。
I can write everything.
我什么都可以写。
I don't have any secret.
我没有任何秘密。
And there's nothing to be worried about.
没有什么可担心的。
So he was there.
所以他就在那里。
I was sitting on a chair.
我坐在椅子上。
And I started writing.
我开始写作。
There was a table there too.
那里也有一张桌子。
And every five minutes he asked me to see my writing.
每隔五分钟他就会叫我看我写的东西。
Every five minutes.
每五分钟一次。
And then when he saw what I was writing, he screamed at me and said, no, this is not what I want.
然后当他看到我写的东西时，他对我尖叫说，不，这不是我想要的。
This is not what I want from you.
这不是我想要你得到的。
You should tell me the truth.
你应该告诉我真相。
And I said, this is the truth.
我说，这是事实。
And he said, no, you're hiding the truth.
他说，不，你隐瞒了真相。
Tell me what happened behind the doors.
告诉我门后发生了什么。
I had no idea what he wanted me to write for them.
我不知道他要我为他们写什么。
I had no idea, because I said in many cases that this is exactly what happened.
我不知道，因为我在很多情况下说过，这正是发生的事情。
This is exactly the people I met.
这正是我遇到的人。
Actually, I wrote a biography of myself for them.
事实上，我为他们写了一本我自己的传记。
It was a very honest biography.
这是一本非常诚实的传记。
I even talked about things I never talked to my mom, or my dad, or my friends.
我什至谈论了一些我从未与我的妈妈、我的爸爸或我的朋友谈论过的事情。
They asked about my girlfriends.
他们询问了我女朋友的情况。
In Iran you can not have a girlfriend when you are not married.
在伊朗，未婚时不能有女朋友。
The guy asked me to confess about my sexual relationship.
那家伙让我承认我的性关系。
Tell me how you started.
告诉我你是怎么开始的。
Do you use condom?
你使用避孕套吗？
Did you use porn?
你用过色情片吗？
Did you watch porn?
你看过色情片吗？
I start crying.
我开始哭泣。
I begged him.
我求他。
I begged him, please, do not ask that.
我求他，求求你，不要问这个。
Please do not ask that.
请不要问这个。
I can not do that.
我不能那样做。
And I was like, oh my God.
我当时想，天啊。
Where are you going from here?
你从这里要去哪里？
And he forced me to write that.
他强迫我写那个。
They told me all the time, you're going to stay here for six months, a year, two years.
他们一直告诉我，你要在这里呆六个月、一年、两年。
You're not going to go home.
你不会回家的。
Forget it.
忘了它。
And I was so devastated.
我非常沮丧。
I felt so hopeless.
我感到非常绝望。
And I said, God, please help me.
我说，上帝，请帮助我。
These people are doing this with me with your name, you know, reading Koran, praying five times a day.
这些人正在以你的名字和我一起做这件事，你知道，阅读《古兰经》，每天祈祷五次。
The guy was beating me, and sometimes stopped beating me to pray on time.
那家伙经常打我，有时还会停止打我以准时祈祷。
And the thing is, I remember once I watched a movie.
事情是，我记得有一次我看过一部电影。
Its name is Irreversible .
它的名字叫“不可逆转”。
It was in my mind all the time, that there is a point in everybody's life that your life separates to before that event and after that.
我一直在想，每个人的生命中都会有一个点，在该事件发生之前和之后，你的生活会有所不同。
So for me, I knew that there's a point that I can not take more pressure.
所以对我来说，我知道有一点我不能承受更多的压力。
I knew people who stayed for a long time in prison, and they never be able to come back to their normal life.
我认识一些在监狱里待了很长时间的人，他们永远无法恢复正常生活。
They never become normal persons.
他们永远不会成为正常人。
They never recovered.
他们再也没有康复。
Omid Memarian They never recovered.
奥米德·梅玛丽安 他们再也没有康复。
And I knew those people.
我认识那些人。
I talked to those people.
我和那些人交谈过。
I didn't want to be those people at the age of 30.
我不想在30岁时成为那些人。
And at one point when their pressure was so high, I thought I was entering to the irreversible part.
当他们的压力如此之大的时候，我以为我正在进入不可逆转的阶段。
I said, OK, what do you want me to write for you?
我说，好吧，你想让我给你写什么？
And they said, so these are the names, these are the topics.
他们说，这些是名字，这些是主题。
I drafted my story.
我起草了我的故事。
It was the only unpaid story I have written in my life.
这是我一生中唯一写过的无报酬故事。
I'm always paid.
我总是得到报酬。
But anyways.
但无论如何。
The only unpaid story you've ever written in your life was your false confession?
你一生中写过的唯一无报酬的故事就是你的虚假告白？
Yes.
是的。
I drafted my story.
我起草了我的故事。
I gave it to my interrogator.
我把它交给了审讯者。
And then he was like my editor.
然后他就像我的编辑。
He changed some of the names.
他更改了一些名字。
And he just changed the order.
他只是改变了顺序。
And then he gave me a few pages analysis.
然后他给了我几页分析。
And I had to include those approaches-- those lines-- in my confessions.
我必须将这些方法——那些台词——包含在我的忏悔中。
Your interrogator is literally writing on your draft?
你的审讯员真的在写你的草稿吗？
He's making notes in the margins, and crossing things out, and adding things like an editor?
他像编辑一样在页边空白处做笔记，划掉一些东西，然后添加一些东西？
Exactly like that.
正是这样。
He gave me directions.
他给了我指示。
For example, I said I wrote for this newspaper or that newspaper.
比如我说我给这个报纸或者那个报纸写文章。
I went to these countries.
我去了这些国家。
I met these people.
我遇见了这些人。
So in their version it was, with the suggestion of that politician, I went to this country.
所以在他们的版本中，根据那位政客的建议，我去了这个国家。
And I was a part of a plan.
我是计划的一部分。
It was a big plan.
这是一个伟大的计划。
And I had to say that I intentionally-- and sometimes, unintentionally-- I have cooperated with them through my writings, through my blog, through my travels, through my talks, and that kind of things.
我不得不说，我有意地——有时是无意地——通过我的写作、我的博客、我的旅行、我的演讲以及诸如此类的事情与他们合作。
Were there specific words he wanted you to use?
他希望你使用什么特定的词语吗？
Definitely I had to use velvet revolution.
当然我必须使用天鹅绒革命。
And how do you say velvet revolution in Farsi?
天鹅绒革命用波斯语怎么说？
[SPEAKING FARSI] Nancy Updike And he wanted you to put those exact words in?
[说波斯语] 南希·厄普代克 他希望你准确地说出这些话？
Exact words.
准确的话。
Nancy Updike Confessions in Iran are sometimes broadcast on TV.
南希·厄普代克在伊朗的《忏悔录》有时会在电视上播出。
They show up in the evenings on the state-run news programs.
他们晚上出现在国营新闻节目中。
Transcripts of confessions are also posted on government websites.
供词笔录也发布在政府网站上。
And watching, reading, and hearing about one Iranian confession after another, it's impossible not to notice a distinct and unchanging editorial vision at work here.
观看、阅读和听到伊朗人的一个又一个忏悔，你不可能不注意到这里有一种独特且不变的编辑视野。
Because the fact is, people in Iran who have never met each other have nevertheless been confessing to a lot of the same things, in a lot of the same ways, for at least 10 years.
因为事实是，至少十年来，在伊朗，素未谋面的人们却以很多相同的方式承认了许多相同的事情。
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE] In these video clips from this summer following the disputed election, one ordinary Iranian after another is confessing to having been manipulated by the BBC and Voice of America to cause mayhem or undermine the regime.
[说外语] 在今年夏天有争议的选举之后的这些视频片段中，一位又一位普通伊朗人承认自己受到英国广播公司和美国之音的操纵，造成混乱或破坏政权。
And here's another confession.
这是另一个坦白。
There's no tape.
没有磁带。
But we've got a transcript.
但我们有一份成绩单。
It's a TV confession from a few weeks ago.
这是几周前的电视告白。
Maziar Bahari, a documentary filmmaker and reporter for Newsweek in Iran, was arrested after the election.
伊朗纪录片制片人兼《新闻周刊》记者马齐亚尔·巴哈里 (Maziar Bahari) 在选举后被捕。
And he's still in custody.
而且他仍被拘留。
His confession is a classic of the genre.
他的自白是这一流派的经典。
It's so crammed with buzz phrases and bullet points that in some parts it gets hard to understand.
它充满了流行语和要点，以至于在某些部分很难理解。
It says quote, "I, as a journalist, and as part of the huge capitalist machinery of the West, sometimes blindly, and sometimes intentionally, positioned myself on the side that was suggesting that a color revolution was underway.
文中写道：“我，作为一名记者，作为西方庞大资本主义机器的一部分，有时是盲目的，有时是有意的，将自己置于暗示颜色革命正在进行的一边。
According to the models of color and velvet revolutions, we can consider the incidents in recent weeks as classic but defeated examples of a color revolution because it has the same properties as a color revolution."
根据颜色革命和天鹅绒革命的模型，我们可以将最近几周发生的事件视为颜色革命的经典但失败的例子，因为它具有与颜色革命相同的属性。”
When Omid heard that a transcript of this guy Maziar's confession was going to be released, he bet a friend who'd also been imprisoned in Iran that they could guess what would show up in Maziar's confession.
当奥米德听说马齐亚尔的供词笔录即将公布时，他和一位同样在伊朗被监禁过的朋友打赌，他们能猜出马齐亚尔的供词中会出现什么内容。
So they wrote down their guesses.
于是他们写下了自己的猜测。
When they read the confession, they were stunned at how right they were.
当他们读到供词时，他们惊讶地发现自己的供述是多么正确。
Because what Maziar Bahari said, this was not Maziar's language.
因为Maziar Bahari所说的，这不是Maziar的语言。
Everybody who knows Maziar, everybody who knows the other guy, [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
每个认识 Maziar 的人，每个认识另一个人的人，[无法理解]。
I mean [UNINTELLIGIBLE] used to work in the same newspaper.
我的意思是[难以理解]曾经在同一份报纸工作。
Nice guy.
好人。
They didn't talk with their language.
他们没有用他们的语言交谈。
It was the interrogator's language.
这是审讯者的语言。
It's the security forces language.
这是安全部队的语言。
What he said was kind of analysis.
他说的是一种分析。
I read that analysis inside the prison.
我在监狱里读到了这篇分析。
It was the same.
都是一样的。
The narrative was very clear.
叙述的非常清楚。
The foreigners, they are influencing society.
外国人，他们正在影响社会。
They want to change the society.
他们想要改变社会。
Velvet revolution.
天鹅绒革命。
Another recurring part of the narrative is the inclusion of the names of foreign people and institutions whenever possible, hopefully famous ones.
叙述中另一个反复出现的部分是尽可能包含外国人和机构的名字，希望是著名的。
The BBC, CNN, Newsweek, The New York Times , George Soros, President Clinton, UCLA, Princeton, all have appeared in various confessions.
BBC、CNN、新闻周刊、纽约时报、乔治·索罗斯、克林顿总统、加州大学洛杉矶分校、普林斯顿大学都曾出现在各种自白中。
I talked to one former student activist arrested in 2000, Ali Afshari, who confessed to intentionally criticizing the supreme leader, and unintentionally trying to overthrow the regime.
我与 2000 年被捕的一名前学生活动人士阿里·阿夫沙里 (Ali Afshari) 进行了交谈，他承认有意批评最高领袖，无意中试图推翻政权。
Ali's interrogator tried to get him to write into his confession that former CIA director George Tenet had personally guided the overthrowing plan.
阿里的审讯者试图让他在供词中写下前中央情报局局长乔治·特尼特亲自指导了推翻计划。
Of course, the CIA did famously orchestrate an overthrow in Iran in 1953, a truth that for many Iranians, no doubt, makes anything seem possible.
当然，中央情报局确实在 1953 年策划了伊朗的推翻，这一事实对于许多伊朗人来说无疑使一切皆有可能。
But for Ali, the idea that he, as a student activist, had been a lackey for George Tenet was absurd and insulting.
但对于阿里来说，认为他作为一名学生活动家是乔治·特尼特的走狗的想法是荒谬和侮辱性的。
It was as though his confession was a historical novel.
他的自白就像一部历史小说。
And his editor kept trying to get him to beef up the realness by sprinkling in actual historical figures.
他的编辑一直试图让他通过加入真实的历史人物来增强真实性。
By now, Iranian political confessions have become so repetitive and recognizable that one of Iran's most famous political satirists, Ebrahim Nabavi, recently posted a fake one on YouTube.
到目前为止，伊朗的政治自白已经变得如此重复和容易辨认，以至于伊朗最著名的政治讽刺作家之一易卜拉欣·纳巴维 (Ebrahim Nabavi) 最近在 YouTube 上发布了一份虚假的政治自白。
[SPEAKING FOEIGN LANGUAGE] Nancy Updike The comedian is dressed in prison stripes, and identifies himself as Mohammad Ali Abtahi, the former vice president of Iran.
[说外语] 喜剧演员南希·厄普代克 (Nancy Updike) 身穿监狱条纹服装，自称是伊朗前副总统穆罕默德·阿里·阿布塔希 (Mohammad Ali Abtahi)。
If that seems like part of the joke, it isn't.
如果这看起来像是玩笑的一部分，那么事实并非如此。
Abtahi is one of the hundreds of people who've been in prison since the election.
阿布塔希是自选举以来数百名入狱的人之一。
In the spoof, the comedian looks sheepishly at the camera and says, "I confess that when I travelled to holy Mecca, I met with one of the agents from the frightening CIA.
在恶搞中，这位喜剧演员羞涩地看着镜头，说道：“我承认，当我前往神圣的麦加时，我遇到了来自可怕的中央情报局的一名特工。
He called me, and offered me to do a velvet revolution."
他打电话给我，并邀请我进行一场天鹅绒革命。”
There are obvious edits in the satire video.
讽刺视频中有明显的编辑。
And over the course of the story, the comedian's face gets covered in more and more Band-Aids.
在故事的过程中，喜剧演员的脸上布满了越来越多的创可贴。
As he continues, he admits that he eventually agreed to do the velvet revolution, as long as he could do it his way.
他继续说道，他承认他最终同意进行天鹅绒革命，只要他能按照自己的方式去做。
"I imported a few bolts of green velvet fabrics from Israel and England.
“我从以色列和英国进口了几匹绿色天鹅绒面料。
During this time-- in addition to millions of dollars of funding that was handed to me by Christiane Amanpour-- I also started the green velvet fabric business."
在此期间，除了克里斯蒂安·阿曼普尔（Christiane Amanpour）交给我的数百万美元资金外，我还开始了绿色天鹅绒面料业务。”
Later in the story, he suggests to one of his co-conspirators that they should change their revolution to focus on a cheaper fabric than velvet.
在故事的后面，他向他的一位同谋建议，他们应该改变革命，将重点放在比天鹅绒更便宜的面料上。
The comedian, by the way, was himself forced to confess years ago.
顺便说一句，这位喜剧演员本人几年前就被迫坦白了。
He no longer lives in Iran.
他不再居住在伊朗。
These confessions, for all their heavy-handedness, have been crushingly effective.
这些认罪虽然手段严厉，但却非常有效。
They've ended careers, driven people out of the country, and kept others looking over their shoulder for the rest of their lives.
他们结束了自己的职业生涯，将人们赶出了这个国家，并让其他人在他们的余生中监视着他们。
Because the bargain is, confess and there's a good chance you'll be released.
因为讨价还价的是，坦白你就很有可能被释放。
Probably.
大概。
Eventually.
最终。
But the state could decide to bring a case against you afterward anyway.
但无论如何，州政府可能会决定随后对您提起诉讼。
Or they could go after your friends and family.
或者他们可能会追捕你的朋友和家人。
Or with all the personal details you've confessed along with the political ones, the security services could blackmail you into working for them as a propagandist, an informant.
或者，根据你所供述的所有个人信息和政治信息，安全部门可能会勒索你，让你为他们工作，担任宣传员、线人。
Meanwhile, many Iranians, even today, believe the confessions are genuine, or at least could be.
与此同时，即使在今天，许多伊朗人仍然相信这些供词是真实的，或者至少可能是真实的。
For those who get their news mostly from the state-run TV channels, the confessions seem as real as anything else on the news.
对于那些主要从国营电视频道获取新闻的人来说，这些供词似乎和新闻中的其他内容一样真实。
Even Omid, before he was arrested, sometimes wondered if the stories he'd heard about torture and forced confessions were exaggerations, or even made up all together.
就连奥米德在被捕之前，有时也会怀疑他所听到的有关酷刑和逼供的故事是否夸大其词，甚至是捏造的。
Like I said, very effective.
就像我说的，非常有效。
I really understood at one point that it's not all about me.
我曾经一度真正明白，这并不完全是我的问题。
They are gathering information about the reformists.
他们正在收集有关改革派的信息。
I mean, for example, they gave me names at one point.
我的意思是，例如，他们曾经给过我名字。
And I said, I have never seen these people.
我说，我从来没有见过这些人。
I know these people, I have never seen these people.
我认识这些人，但我从未见过这些人。
And I can not say that I have met them, or they have directed me, or they have guided me.
我不能说我见过他们，或者他们指导了我，或者他们指导了我。
And they told me that it's OK.
他们告诉我没关系。
When you confess and when you use their names in your confession, it will be so alarming for them.
当你认罪时，当你在认罪中使用他们的名字时，他们会感到非常震惊。
So they wanted to intimidate those people, those reformists, as well.
所以他们想恐吓那些人，还有那些改革派。
They didn't care that I didn't meet any of those people.
他们并不关心我没有见到那些人。
So the people who are in prison now, ranking reformists, they had been after them like for five, six years.
所以现在在监狱里的那些人，都是改良主义者，他们已经追捕他们五六年了。
They just didn't decide to arrest them [UNINTELLIGIBLE] after the election.
他们只是没有决定在选举后逮捕他们[无法理解]。
They had been planning for this for years.
他们为此计划了很多年。
Omid wrote six drafts for his interrogator by his own estimate.
根据奥米德自己的估计，他为审讯者写了六份草稿。
And out of that, they shaped a 5,000 word version and a shorter 2,000 word op-ed style version.
由此，他们制作了一个 5,000 字的版本和一个较短的 2,000 字专栏风格的版本。
Excerpts were printed in several newspapers.
一些报纸刊登了摘录。
And then he had to confess on TV.
然后他不得不在电视上认罪。
And they told me, my interrogator said, this is the last part of the game.
他们告诉我，审讯者说，这是游戏的最后一部分。
You should be on TV, and it's over.
你应该上电视，然后就结束了。
Don't screw us.
别搞砸我们。
Some TV confessions in Iran are the stark, looking straight at the camera confession you're probably imagining.
伊朗的一些电视认罪是赤裸裸的，你可能会想象直视镜头的认罪。
But with other people-- journalists, or politicians, or big activists-- often it's staged as an informal interview-- in a room set up with chairs, a table, maybe some flowers-- as though, they're sitting down for a chat with Matt Lauer.
但对于其他人——记者、政客或大活动家——通常是以非正式采访的形式进行——在一个配有椅子、桌子、也许还有一些鲜花的房间里——就好像他们正在坐下来与马特·劳尔聊天。
It was a beautiful room decorated beautifully with curtain, flowers, chairs, orange juice.
这是一个漂亮的房间，装饰得很漂亮，有窗帘、鲜花、椅子和橙汁。
But the thing was I wanted to make it more unprofessional.
但问题是我想让它变得更加不专业。
So they had to cut all the time.
所以他们不得不一直削减。
Saying, cut.
说着，砍。
Again.
再次。
Omid, what are you doing?
奥米德，你在做什么？
A few times I cried.
有几次我哭了。
It was unintentional and also intentional.
这是无意的，也是有意的。
Both.
两个都。
I didn't want to make it very easy for them.
我不想让他们变得太容易。
And was your chief interrogator there behind the camera saying, you know, you did it wrong.
你的首席审讯者是否在镜头后面说，你知道，你做错了。
Do it again?
再做一次吗？
Yes, he was there.
是的，他在那里。
And he asked me to stop.
他让我停下来。
And I had to start again.
我不得不重新开始。
So it took four hours to finish half an hour confession.
于是花了四个小时才完成了半个小时的表白。
After Omid was released in December of 2004, he leaked to Human Rights Watch that he and about 19 others who'd been arrested around the same time had been coerced into confessing.
奥米德于 2004 年 12 月获释后，向人权观察透露，他和约 19 名同时被捕的人均被迫认罪。
And the shocking thing was, many top government officials-- when they heard what had happened to Omid and the others-- were shocked.
令人震惊的是，许多政府高级官员在听到奥米德和其他人的遭遇时都感到震惊。
Officials like the president, moderate reformist Mohammed Khatami, and his ministers.
总统、温和改革派穆罕默德·哈塔米及其部长等官员。
It caused an uproar.
引起轩然大波。
And eventually Omid and another young journalist met with the head of the judiciary, the Grand Ayatollah Shahroudi.
最终奥米德和另一位年轻记者会见了司法部门负责人大阿亚图拉沙赫鲁迪。
He's still the head of the judiciary today.
今天他仍然是司法部门的负责人。
He's the Iranian equivalent of the attorney general.
他相当于伊朗的司法部长。
And Omid learned that the security force's standard procedure with the confessions was to make copies, and send them along to government officials and top ayatollahs as proof that there were Iranian citizens bent on undermining and plotting against the state.
奥米德了解到，安全部队处理口供的标准程序是制作副本，并将其发送给政府官员和高级阿亚图拉，作为伊朗公民一心破坏和密谋反对国家的证据。
And because the interrogators took so much care to make the confessions look unforced-- with the flowers and the vase, and the chatty interviewer, the confessing person not looking beat up or emaciated-- apparently the videos were pretty convincing.
而且因为审讯者非常小心地让供词看起来不是被迫的——鲜花和花瓶，还有健谈的采访者，供认者看起来没有被殴打或憔悴——显然这些视频非常有说服力。
When Omid and the other journalist told the head of the judiciary everything that had led up to their confessions, it was clear to Omid that he was hearing these things for the first time.
当奥米德和另一名记者向司法部门负责人讲述导致他们认罪的一切时，奥米德很清楚他是第一次听到这些事情。
I really trusted this guy.
我真的很信任这个人。
I felt that he was very honest.
我感觉他很诚实。
He had a very honest reaction.
他的反应非常诚实。
I could see in his face he was so angry.
我从他的脸上看出他非常生气。
And he was saying all the time, [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE].
他一直在说，[说外语]。
You know, people use it when they do not believe something, or something's very astounding for them.
你知道，当人们不相信某件事，或者某件事对他们来说非常令人震惊时，他们就会使用它。
But for all the shock, and outrage, and the promises to look into what had happened and take action, nothing changed.
尽管人们感到震惊和愤怒，并承诺调查所发生的事情并采取行动，但一切都没有改变。
Not because the head of the judiciary, or anyone else, was insincere, Omid thinks.
奥米德认为，并不是因为司法部门负责人或其他任何人不真诚。
They just weren't, and possibly aren't, strong enough to fight what was happening.
他们只是没有，也可能没有，足够强大来对抗正在发生的事情。
Many people, they are not happy, even in the conservative camp, even among Ahmadinejad supporters.
很多人，他们并不高兴，即使在保守派阵营中，甚至在艾哈迈迪内贾德的支持者中。
They are really mad at what is going on.
他们对正在发生的事情真的很生气。
In my case, I remember that many people on the judiciary and in the government-- conservatives, that I had a chance to talk to them-- they told me that they are so stunned at how these guys are brutal, and why they are doing this, and how they are not responsible.
就我而言，我记得司法部门和政府的许多人——保守派，我有机会与他们交谈——他们告诉我，他们对这些人的残忍程度、他们为什么这样做以及他们如何不负责任感到震惊。
Last week, the lieutenant commander of Iran's Basij militia was quoted saying, "There are now so many confessions obtained from rioters that even if all the media mobilized for a long time to broadcast them, they still couldn't get all the information out to the people."
上周，伊朗巴斯基民兵中尉指挥官表示，“现在从暴徒那里获得的供词如此之多，即使所有媒体动员很长时间进行广播，仍然无法将所有信息传达给民众。”
A few days before that story came out, one of the most senior ayatollahs in Iran, the Grand Ayatollah Montazeri, said in a translation on the Middle East Media Research Institute Website, "The proud people of Iran know very well exactly how authentic the detainees' confessions are.
报道发布前几天，伊朗最资深的阿亚图拉之一蒙塔泽里大阿亚图拉在中东媒体研究所网站的翻译中表示，“自豪的伊朗人民非常清楚被拘留者的供词有多么真实。
They are like confessions obtained by fascist and communist regimes.
它们就像法西斯和共产主义政权获得的供词。
The nation knows that the false confessions and televised interviews were obtained from its imprisoned sons with threats and torture, and that their aim is to cover up the oppression and injustice, and to present a distorted image of the people's peaceful and legal protest."
国家知道这些虚假供词和电视采访是通过威胁和酷刑从其被监禁的儿子那里获得的，他们的目的是掩盖压迫和不公正，并歪曲人民和平合法抗议的形象。”
Nancy Updike is one of the producers of our show.
南希·厄普代克是我们节目的制片人之一。
Coming up, the fine print that keeps mom in her place.
即将到来，让妈妈保持在自己位置的精美印刷品。
That's in a minute.
就在一分钟之内。
From Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International, when our program continues.
当我们的节目继续进行时，来自芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台。
It's This American Life .
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our show we choose a theme, bring you different kinds of stories on that theme.
我们的节目每周都会选择一个主题，为您带来有关该主题的不同类型的故事。
Today's show, Fine Print.
今天的节目，精美印刷。
Usually, most of us try to just skip the fine print.
通常，我们大多数人都会尝试跳过细则。
You know, we don't read the rental car agreements or the software license end user agreements.
您知道，我们不会阅读租车协议或软件许可最终用户协议。
We just click I Agree.
我们只需单击“我同意”即可。
Today on our show we have stories where the fine print has real consequences.
今天在我们的节目中，我们有一些故事，其中的细则会产生真正的后果。
We've arrived at act two of our show.
我们已经到了演出的第二幕了。
Act two, Occupancy May Be Revoked Without Notice.
第二幕，占用可能会被撤销，恕不另行通知。
This next bit of fine print was brought to us by David Rakoff.
下一个小字是由 David Rakoff 带给我们的。
The following shall constitute the binding agreement between Mr. Gregory [?
以下内容构成 Gregory 先生 [?
Stolzenberg ?] of Yonkers, New York, hereafter known as owner, and his mother, Mrs. Barbara [?
纽约扬克斯的斯托尔森伯格？]，以下称为所有者，和他的母亲芭芭拉夫人[？
Stolzenberg ?] of Tenafly, New Jersey, hereafter known as mother, in regards to the third floor bedroom of number 41 old [?
新泽西州特纳夫莱的斯托尔森伯格？]，以下称为母亲，关于 41 号老房子的三楼卧室[？
Alewive's ?] Lane, Yonkers, New York.
Alewive's？] 纽约州扬克斯市莱恩。
One.
一。
Upon completion of chemotherapy and surgery at the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, Mother shall take occupancy for an as yet undetermined period of time, hereafter known as convalescent period, not to exceed four weeks in duration.
在纪念斯隆-凯特琳癌症中心完成化疗和手术后，母亲应入住一段尚未确定的时间，以下称为恢复期，持续时间不超过四个星期。
Two.
二。
A front door key will be left underneath the stone frog near the rhododendron.
前门钥匙将留在杜鹃花附近的石蛙下方。
Mother agrees to return said key to its hiding place, for once.
母亲同意将钥匙归还给它的藏身之处，这一次。
Three.
三。
Mother acknowledges herewith that she is aware that as a converted attic, the third floor and its bedroom are accessible by a retractable ladder.
母亲特此承认，她知道作为一个改建的阁楼，三楼及其卧室可以通过可伸缩的梯子到达。
Subparagraph one.
第一项。
Mother hereby waives any and all recourse to the Americans with Disabilities Act and to any liability on the owner's part in the event of any injury.
母亲特此放弃对《美国残疾人法案》的任何追索权，以及在发生任何伤害时业主承担的任何责任。
Subparagraph two.
第二款.
Included in mother's accommodation, she shall be given 24 hour access to the bathroom on the second floor.
包括在母亲的住宿内，她可以 24 小时使用二楼的浴室。
Four.
四。
Per mother's previous request, she shall occupy the lower bunk of the third floor bedroom while owner's eight-year-old son, Robbie [?
根据母亲之前的要求，她将占据三楼卧室的下铺，而房主八岁的儿子罗比 [？
Stolzenberg, ?] shall occupy the top bunk.
斯托尔岑贝格，？] 应该占据上铺。
Five.
五。
Mother may take breakfast and supper with the family-- please see attached appendix detailing the meal plan-- and agrees that upon finishing eating, she will quote, "make herself scarce." As has been previously and frequently discussed, quote, "sitting quietly with a magazine, and not saying a word even if you begged me to say something," unquote, differs wholly in spirit, letter, and intention from making oneself scarce.
母亲可以与家人一起吃早餐和晚餐——请参阅随附的详细膳食计划的附录——并同意吃完后，她会引用“让自己变得稀缺”。正如之前经常讨论的那样，引用“安静地坐在一本杂志上，即使你求我说点什么也不说一句话”，不引用，在精神、文字和意图上与让自己变得稀缺完全不同。
Mother further agrees not to do quote, "that thing with the chewing and the breathing."
母亲进一步同意不引用“咀嚼和呼吸的东西”。
Subparagraph one.
第一项。
Further to the matter of quote, "making oneself scarce," unquote-- and it is herein that this subparagraph not be construed as belaboring a matter to the point of obsession-- but mother further concedes herein that both owner and his wife have been medically assessed to be of excellent to above average hearing.
除了引用的问题之外，“让自己变得稀缺”，不引用——在本文中，本项不应被解释为对问题的详尽阐述到了痴迷的地步——但母亲在此进一步承认，所有者和他的妻子都经过医学评估，听力优秀到高于平均水平。
And as such, any and all comments-- even those spoken at a whisper-- are perfectly audible.
因此，任何和所有评论——即使是低声说出的评论——都是完全可以听见的。
Further, owner's wife as a Mexican born Catholic, and therefore not possessed of a formal Yiddish education, is well aware that the word curva has entered common English usage to mean whore.
此外，店主的妻子是墨西哥出生的天主教徒，因此没有受过正规的意第绪语教育，她很清楚“curva”一词已进入英语的常见用法，意思是妓女。
And the use of said word, even when muttered, is heard, and emphatically not appreciated.
而且，即使是在咕哝的时候，这个词的使用也会被听到，并且明显不被赞赏。
Six.
六。
Mother may make daily use of the public rooms on the main floor, such as the living room from 11:00 AM to 3:00 PM, or until Robbie [?
母亲可以每天从上午 11:00 到下午 3:00 或直到罗比 [?
Stolzenberg ?] returns home from school, whichever happens sooner, at which time mother must relinquish the television remote and quote, "make herself scarce," unquote.
斯托尔岑贝格？]从学校回家，无论哪个更早，那时母亲必须放弃电视遥控器并引用“让自己变得稀缺”，未引用。
See paragraph five.
参见第五段。
Mother may receive visitors, no more than two a day.
母亲可以接待访客，每天不得超过两次。
Although under no circumstances may mother receive her daughter, the omniscient and perfect-- it is acknowledged that both adjectives are being employed ironically-- Mrs. Marla [?
尽管母亲在任何情况下都不能接待她的女儿，她是无所不知、完美无缺的——众所周知，这两个形容词的使用都是讽刺性的——玛拉夫人[？
Stolzenberg ?] Burns of Ho-Ho-Kus, New Jersey for reasons that have been previously and frequently discussed.
Stolzenberg？] 新泽西州 Ho-Ho-Kus 的 Burns，原因之前已经常讨论过。
If Mrs. [?
如果夫人[？
Stolzenberg ?] Burns's eagerness to see her mother is deemed as so overwhelming, then perhaps the entire location of the convalescent period can be reassessed.
斯托尔岑贝格？]伯恩斯想见母亲的渴望被认为是压倒性的，那么也许可以重新评估整个康复期的地点。
Just say the word.
只要说一句话。
Go on, say it.
继续说吧
Say it.
说吧。
Say it.
说吧。
Subparagraph one.
第一项。
Mention is made hereby that in the matter of the husband of the omniscient and perfect Mrs. Marla [?
特此提及，关于全知完美的马拉夫人的丈夫的问题[？
Stolzenberg ?] Burns, the owner's brother-in-law, Dr. Howard Burns of Ho-Ho-Kus, New Jersey.
斯托尔岑伯格？]伯恩斯，业主的妹夫，新泽西州霍霍库斯的霍华德伯恩斯博士。
Mother further agrees that there is a material difference between a dermatologist and God almighty, and that there are, indeed, many things that the former does not know regardless of how much he pulls down annually.
母亲进一步同意，皮肤科医生和全能的上帝之间存在着本质上的区别，而且确实有很多事情是前者不知道的，无论他每年拉下多少。
Seven.
七。
All efforts have been made herein to draft an impartial agreement with malice and favor towards none.
我们已尽一切努力起草一份公正的协议，不存在任何恶意和偏袒。
This document is to serve as a mutual protection to both parties.
本文件旨在作为双方的相互保护。
And the full execution of which, it is hoped, will avert any future difficulties that might in any way resemble events of Thanksgiving 2005, 2006, 2007, or August 2008 at the beach.
希望该计划的全面执行能够避免未来出现任何类似于 2005 年、2006 年、2007 年或 2008 年 8 月感恩节海滩事件的困难。
David Rakoff is the author of several books, including Don't Get Too Comfortable.
大卫·拉考夫 (David Rakoff) 是多本书的作者，其中包括《别太舒服》(Don’t Get Too Comfortable)。
At this point even die hard news consumers have to admit this sad truth about the health care debate.
在这一点上，即使是顽固的新闻消费者也不得不承认有关医疗保健争论的悲惨事实。
It's usually really, really boring.
通常这真的非常非常无聊。
I ask you, is there any writer in the English language gifted enough to compose an interesting sentence involving the long-term financial health of Medicare?
我问你，有没有哪位英语作家有足够的天赋，可以写出一个涉及医疗保险长期财务健康的有趣句子？
No, there is not.
不，没有。
But a month ago, a House subcommittee held a hearing where a handful of congresspeople could tear into witnesses with the zeal of starving men eating their first real meal in months.
但一个月前，众议院的一个小组委员会举行了一次听证会，少数国会议员可以用饥饿的人们吃几个月来第一顿真正的饭菜的热情撕扯证人。
They found a corner of the health care crisis that anybody could understand, that would make anybody mad, that anybody would want to get in there and fix.
他们发现了医疗保健危机的一个角落，任何人都可以理解，这会让任何人生气，任何人都想介入并解决这个问题。
It didn't get much coverage, this hearing.
这次听证会没有得到太多报道。
It was the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce.
这是众议院能源和商业委员会的监督和调查小组委员会。
And here is its chairman Bart Stupak of Michigan, reviewing the fine print of an insurance application with Don Hamm, who's the head of the insurance company that issued it, Assurant Health.
密歇根州的董事长巴特·斯图帕克 (Bart Stupak) 与唐·哈姆 (Don Hamm) 一起审阅保险申请的细则，后者是签发保险申请的保险公司 Assurant Health 的负责人。
What the congressman is trying to figure out in this first clip I'm going to play you is, are these insurance application forms intentionally difficult, so an average person would make mistakes filling them out?
在我要播放的第一个片段中，国会议员试图弄清楚的是，这些保险申请表是否故意变得困难，所以普通人在填写时会犯错误？
Mistakes that would later let the insurance company deny them benefits, or cancel their policy.
这些错误后来会让保险公司拒绝给他们福利，或者取消他们的保单。
As you said, your Assurant Health questionnaires are simple, easy to understand, straightforward language, so people can easily and accurately report their medical history.
正如您所说，您的 Assurant Health 调查问卷简单、易懂、语言直白，因此人们可以轻松、准确地报告自己的病史。
So let me ask you this.
那么让我问你这个问题。
In your policy, Mr. Hamm, it states in question number 14, "Within the last 10 years, has any proposed insured had any diagnosis, received treatment for, or consulted with a physician concerning phlebitis, TIA, [?
哈姆先生，在您的保单中，问题 14 中写道：“在过去 10 年内，是否有任何拟投保人接受过有关静脉炎、TIA 的任何诊断、治疗或咨询过医生？
cystitis, ?] lymphadenopathy, or glandular disorder?" So tell me, what is TIA?
膀胱炎，？]淋巴结肿大，还是腺体疾病？”那么请告诉我，什么是 TIA？
I am not aware.
我不知道。
I believe-- Bart Stupak If you don't know what it is, how would anyone filling out your application know what it is?
我相信—— Bart Stupak 如果您不知道它是什么，那么填写您的申请表的人怎么会知道它是什么？
So there's grounds to deny them right there.
因此，我们有理由否认他们。
You don't even know what it is, either do I.
你甚至不知道那是什么，我也不知道。
How about phlebitis or lymphadenopathy?
静脉炎或淋巴结肿大怎么办？
How about lymphadenopathy, what's that?
淋巴结肿大是怎么回事？
I don't know the answer to those questions.
我不知道这些问题的答案。
Do you sincerely believe that an average applicant would know what these words mean, if you don't know and I don't know?
如果你不知道，我也不知道，你真的相信一个普通的申请者会知道这些词的意思吗？
Sir, I believe that is an application that is not currently used at this time.
先生，我相信这是一个目前尚未使用的应用程序。
I would like to--
我想——
It's last year's application.
这是去年的申请。
Last year's application.
去年的申请。
Have you changed the application in the last year?
您去年是否更改过申请？
I'm not aware if we have changed that application.
我不知道我们是否更改了该应用程序。
His hearing was the culmination of a year-long investigation by the subcommittee into the fine print of our nation's insurance policies, and specifically, into something called rescission, for people who have their own, individual insurance.
他的听证会是小组委员会对我国保险单细则进行了长达一年的调查的高潮，特别是针对拥有自己的个人保险的人的所谓“撤销”的调查。
This doesn't apply to people get insurance through their jobs or group insurance policies.
这不适用于通过工作或团体保险保单获得保险的人。
For people who have individual insurance, rescission is what happens when an insurance company decides that you lied when you applied for a policy with them-- you pretended that you were healthier than you really were, or you concealed a serious and expensive illness, or you simply made a mistake without intending to, and omitted something about your health that they might want to know.
对于拥有个人保险的人来说，当保险公司认定您在向他们申请保单时撒谎时，就会发生撤销——您假装自己比实际情况更健康，或者您隐瞒了严重且昂贵的疾病，或者您只是无意中犯了一个错误，并且遗漏了他们可能想知道的有关您健康状况的信息。
And so they cancel your policy.
所以他们取消了你的保单。
They rescind it.
他们废除它。
The problem according to the subcommittee's investigation is that so many people get kicked off who weren't trying to deceive the insurance companies at all.
根据小组委员会的调查，问题在于，很多人根本没有试图欺骗保险公司，却被解雇了。
They found that if you get an illness-- especially an expensive illness-- the insurance companies go looking for a way to kick you off.
他们发现，如果你生病了——尤其是一种昂贵的疾病——保险公司就会想办法把你踢掉。
The subcommittee found a guy in Virginia who lost his coverage because the insurance agent who sold him the policy incorrectly wrote down the guy's weight on a form, and then never showed it to the guy to double check.
小组委员会发现弗吉尼亚州的一个人失去了保险，因为向他出售保单的保险代理人在表格上错误地写下了该人的体重，然后从未将其显示给该人仔细检查。
A patient in Utah who needed surgery lost their insurance because of a mistake, an omission, on their spouse's application.
犹他州一名需要手术的患者由于其配偶申请中的错误或遗漏而失去了保险。
I got a chance to talk with one of the lawmakers on the subcommittee, Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, a democrat form Illinois.
我有机会与小组委员会的一位议员、来自伊利诺伊州的民主党众议员扬·沙科夫斯基（Jan Schakowsky）进行了交谈。
And she told me that even somebody like her, who has worked on health care issues for decades, was surprised to find out that this could happen.
她告诉我，即使是像她这样在医疗保健问题上工作了几十年的人，也会惊讶地发现这种情况可能发生。
I hadn't even heard of it before, that you could actually be paying premiums, and then exactly when you really need the health insurance, they go back and deny it.
我以前甚至没有听说过，你实际上可以支付保费，然后当你真正需要健康保险时，他们却拒绝了。
And listening to this hearing, it seems like this was one of those cases where all of you really seemed really, truly angry.
听了这次听证会，这似乎是你们所有人真的非常非常生气的案例之一。
Really, truly, angry.
真的，真的，很生气。
Yes.
是的。
In a very emotional and personal way.
以一种非常情感和个人的方式。
This wasn't just another issue.
这不仅仅是另一个问题。
And explain why.
并解释原因。
Jan Schakowsky The very idea that a woman who has been diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer, who was insured, was suddenly told, we're not going to pay for this.
Jan Schakowsky 一个被诊断患有侵袭性乳腺癌并已投保的女性突然被告知我们不会为此付费的想法。
My name is Robin Beaton.
我叫罗宾·比顿。
I'm 59 years old.
我今年59岁了。
I was a registered nurse for 30 years.
我当了30年的注册护士。
In June 2008, I was diagnosed with invasive HER2 genetic breast cancer, a very aggressive form of this cancer.
2008 年 6 月，我被诊断出患有侵袭性 HER2 基因乳腺癌，这是一种非常具有侵袭性的癌症。
I needed a double mastectomy immediately.
我需要立即进行双乳切除术。
The Friday before I was to have my double mastectomy, Blue Cross and Blue Shield called me by telephone and told me that my chart was red flagged.
在我进行双侧乳房切除术的前周五，Blue Cross 和 Blue Shield 打电话给我，告诉我我的图表已被标记为红色。
And what does that mean?
这意味着什么？
They said that due to the dermatologist's report--
他们说，根据皮肤科医生的报告——
There was something on her chart earlier about a dermatitis that they took to mean pre-cancerous.
早些时候，她的病历上有一些关于皮炎的信息，他们认为这是癌前病变。
And even though the dermatologist called and said, please, this is acne.
尽管皮肤科医生打电话说，拜托，这是痤疮。
Do not deny her her breast cancer treatment.
不要拒绝她的乳腺癌治疗。
They said, no. They said no.
他们说，不。他们说不。
He said please don't hold up her cancer surgery for this.
他说请不要因此而耽误她的癌症手术。
He begged them.
他恳求他们。
He was the nicest man.
他是最好的人。
Anyway, they said that I would not be able to have my surgery on Monday.
不管怎样，他们说我周一不能做手术。
And they launched a medical investigation into my medical history.
他们对我的病史进行了医学调查。
I was frantic.
我很疯狂。
I didn't know how to pay for my surgery.
我不知道如何支付手术费用。
The hospital wanted a $30,000 deposit.
医院要求支付 30,000 美元的押金。
Can you imagine having to walk around with cancer growing in your body with no insurance?
您能想象在没有保险的情况下不得不带着体内生长的癌症四处走动吗？
And it took her months to finally get the surgery that she needed, by which time the tumor had doubled.
她花了几个月的时间才终于接受了所需的手术，此时肿瘤已经扩大了一倍。
And at the hearing, we took a break for five minutes while she composed herself.
在听证会上，我们休息了五分钟，让她冷静下来。
I mean, she was clearly ill.
我的意思是，她显然病了。
And that was so dramatic and moving to every member on the committee.
这对于委员会的每一位成员来说都是如此戏剧性和令人感动。
I go to a cancer support group every week.
我每周都会去癌症支持小组。
Four girls in my cancer support group have had their insurance cancelled.
我的癌症支持小组中有四名女孩的保险被取消。
It is very difficult for me to speak out.
我很难说出来。
My insurance could be canceled again.
我的保险可能会再次被取消。
I live in fear every day of my insurance company.
我每天都生活在对保险公司的恐惧之中。
Looking at the face of a woman who had fast-moving breast cancer that could take her life, I just could not understand how the people who were testifying for the insurance industry could sleep at night.
看着一位患有快速扩散的乳腺癌、可能夺走她生命的女性的脸，我简直无法理解为保险业作证的人们如何在晚上睡觉。
As people, as individuals, how could they defend this policy?
作为人民，作为个人，他们如何捍卫这项政策？
I remember there was one moment in the hearing where somebody on the panel actually asked, does it bother you that people are going to die because of these policies?
我记得在听证会上，有一个时刻，专家小组中有人问，人们会因为这些政策而死亡，你对此感到困扰吗？
Doesn't it bother you that people are going to die because you insist on reviewing a policy that somebody took out in good faith and forgot to tell you that they were being treated for acne?
难道你不担心人们会因为你坚持审查某人善意地制定的政策而死亡而忘记告诉你他们正在接受痤疮治疗吗？
Doesn't that bother you?
这不困扰你吗？
Yes sir, it does.
是的，先生，确实如此。
And we regret the necessity that that has to occur even a single time.
我们对这种情况必须发生一次感到遗憾。
There were three heads of insurance companies at this hearing.
本次听证会共有三位保险公司负责人。
Don Hamm of Assurant Health, Richard Collins of UnitedHealth's Golden Rule Insurance Company, and Brian Sassi of WellPoint.
Assurant Health 的 Don Hamm、UnitedHealth 黄金法则保险公司的 Richard Collins 和 WellPoint 的 Brian Sassi。
And it seemed like they'd all been advised-- like a lot of corporate guys are in situations like this-- not to give an inch on anything.
似乎他们都被建议——就像很多企业人员面临这样的情况一样——不要在任何事情上让步。
They would not admit, for instance, the premise of the hearing, that they go looking for people to throw off their rolls in order to save money.
例如，他们不会承认听证会的前提，即他们为了省钱而去找人扔掉他们的名单。
At one point in the hearing, Congressman Stupak pulled out a list of 1,400 medical conditions that, if you have an individual policy with WellPoint insurance, trigger WellPoint to investigate you, looking for some way to cancel your policy.
在听证会上，议员斯图帕克 (Stupak) 拿出了一份包含 1,400 种医疗状况的清单，如果您有 WellPoint 保险的个人保单，这些状况会触发 WellPoint 对您进行调查，寻找某种方式取消您的保单。
Diseases ranging from heart disease and high blood pressure to diabetes and even pregnancy.
疾病范围从心脏病、高血压到糖尿病，甚至怀孕。
So what do these conditions have in common that would cause you to investigate patients with these conditions for a possible rescission?
那么，这些病症有什么共同点，促使您对患有这些病症的患者进行调查，以寻求可能的切除治疗呢？
I would say there's no common theme other than these are conditions that had the applicant disclosed their knowledge of a condition at the time of initial underwriting, we may have taken a different underwriting action.
我想说，除了这些条件之外，没有共同的主题，如果申请人在最初承保时披露了他们对某种情况的了解，我们可能会采取不同的承保行动。
So in the 1,400 different areas they lie?
那么它们分布在 1,400 个不同的区域吗？
The applicants lie?
申请人撒谎？
Or is it really a cost issue?
或者说这真的是一个成本问题吗？
These are 1,400 expensive areas, aren't they?
这些都是 1,400 个昂贵的地区，不是吗？
Rescission is not about cost.
撤销与成本无关。
Ira Glass According to the subcommittee's investigation, between the years 2003 and 2007, these three companies saved at least $300 million through the use of rescission.
Ira Glass 根据小组委员会的调查，2003年至2007年间，这3家公司通过解除合同节省了至少3亿美元。
The insurance companies' defense of rescission came down, basically, to two ideas.
保险公司对撤销的辩护基本上可以归结为两个想法。
They have to fight fraud if they're going to give decent benefits to everybody else.
如果他们想给其他人带来体面的好处，就必须打击欺诈行为。
And rescission is rare.
而且撤销的情况很少见。
Rescission affects less than one half of 1% of the people we cover.
撤销影响到我们覆盖的人群中不到 1% 的二分之一。
During 2008, we rescinded only 1/10 of 1% of individual policies that year.
2008年，我们只取消了当年1%个人保单的1/10。
Our use of rescission is rare.
我们很少使用撤销权。
Less than one half of 1% of all individual insurance policies.
不到所有个人保单的 1% 的二分之一。
Here's what those percentages mean in practice.
以下是这些百分比在实践中的含义。
The subcommittee's official report notes that at least 19,776 policies were rescinded between the years 2003 and 2007 by these three companies.
该小组委员会的正式报告指出，2003 年至 2007 年间，这三个公司至少撤销了 19,776 项保单。
They say at least in the report, because UnitedHealth failed to provide data for two years and WellPoint wouldn't provide data from all of its subsidiaries.
他们至少在报告中表示，因为 UnitedHealth 两年来未能提供数据，而 WellPoint 也不会提供其所有子公司的数据。
Toward the end of the three and a half hour hearing, after lawmakers made these three executives sit and listen to people who used to be their own customers, who their own companies had rescinded policies for, even though those people never tried to deceive the insurance companies about their health-- like Robin Beaton, the woman with cancer-- Congressman Bart Stupak boiled everything down to one simple inquiry.
在三个半小时的听证会即将结束时，立法者让这三位高管坐下来听听那些曾经是自己客户的人的声音，他们自己的公司已经取消了他们的保单，尽管这些人从未试图在健康问题上欺骗保险公司——比如患有癌症的妇女罗宾·比顿(Robin Beaton)——国会议员巴特·斯图帕克(Bart Stupak)将一切归结为一个简单的询问。
Let me ask each of our CEOs this question, starting with you, Mr. Hamm.
让我向我们的每一位首席执行官提出这个问题，从你开始，哈姆先生。
Would you commit today that your company will never rescind another policy unless there was intentional fraudulent misrepresentation in the application?
您今天是否会承诺，除非申请中存在故意的欺诈性虚假陈述，否则您的公司将永远不会撤销其他保单？
I would not commit to that.
我不会承诺这一点。
Bart Stupak How about you, Mr. Collins.
巴特·斯图帕克 你呢，柯林斯先生。
Would you commit to not to rescind any policy unless there was an intentional fraudulent misrepresentation?
您是否承诺不撤销任何保单，除非存在故意的欺诈性失实陈述？
No, sir.
不，先生。
We follow the state laws and regulations.
我们遵守国家法律法规。
And we would not stipulate to that.
我们不会对此做出规定。
What he's saying is, state laws allow us to do it this way.
他的意思是，州法律允许我们这样做。
And we're good with that.
我们对此很满意。
How about you, Mr. Sassi?
你呢，萨西先生？
Brian Sassi No, I can't commit to that.
Brian Sassi 不，我不能承诺这一点。
The intentional standard is not the law of the land in the majority of states.
在大多数州，故意标准并不是土地法。
Can I ask, were you surprised that none of them would commit to this?
我能问一下，你对他们没有人愿意这样做感到惊讶吗？
Oh no, I wasn't surprised.
哦，不，我并不感到惊讶。
It doesn't surprise me one, that they would say, well, the law is on our side.
他们会说，好吧，法律站在我们这一边，我对此并不感到惊讶。
And when you guys go into these kinds of hearings, do you go into them hoping to get the companies to go on the record and say in a moment like this that they're going to change their policies, or do you just want to get them on the record being obstinate and unsympathetic?
当你们参加此类听证会时，您是否希望让这些公司公开表示他们将在这样的时刻改变他们的政策，或者您只是想让他们公开表示顽固和无情？
Well, I guess the answer really is that such a heartless policy of these companies does need to be put on the record and contrasted with the real people who are hurt so badly by those.
好吧，我想答案确实是，这些公司如此无情的政策确实需要记录在案，并与那些受到如此严重伤害的真实人民进行对比。
And so the idea is, let's get these guys up here, and get them to show America that they're not going to change unless we push them?
所以我们的想法是，让这些人来这里，让他们向美国表明，除非我们推动他们，否则他们不会改变？
Exactly.
确切地。
Ira Glass There came a point where one of the republicans on the panel, Representative Michael Burgess from Texas, who is a doctor, said to the companies, look, I'm on your side.
艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass) 专家组中的一位共和党人、来自德克萨斯州的医生迈克尔·伯吉斯 (Michael Burgess) 对公司说，看，我站在你们这边。
I'd like to help you guys.
我想帮助你们。
But I can't help you out if this is how you're going to be.
但如果你就是这样，我也帮不了你。
And I would urge you to think creatively about this problem, because this is the difficulty that leads us to where we are here today.
我敦促你们创造性地思考这个问题，因为正是这个困难导致我们走到今天这一步。
And I can't help you--
我也帮不了你——
--if you're not willing to move on this issue.
——如果你不愿意在这个问题上采取行动。
Do you feel any sense of hope that the companies will come around and want to work with you?
您是否希望这些公司愿意与您合作？
Have you had any moment privately talking to the companies where you have thought, OK, well, maybe?
您是否曾在与公司私下交谈时想过，好吧，也许吧？
No. I think that we just have to make it against the law for them to do it.
不，我认为我们只要让他们这样做违法就可以了。
They've had their way with us for decades.
他们已经和我们一起生活了几十年。
And here we are in this terrible mess, where they want to insure only healthy people.
我们现在正处于这个可怕的混乱之中，他们只想为健康的人提供保险。
And if you're unlucky enough to get a serious disease or have an accident, then good luck.
如果您不幸得了严重的疾病或发生了事故，那么祝您好运。
Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky of Illinois.
伊利诺伊州国会女议员扬·沙科夫斯基。
She went straight from our interview to a mark up of the House health bill.
结束我们的采访后，她直接进入了众议院医疗法案的加价阶段。
She told me that she believes that rescission is something that is so hard to defend, something that is so clear cut, that she thinks it's one of the things that Congress is going to be able to outlaw in whatever kind of health reform we end up with.
她告诉我，她认为撤销是很难辩护的事情，也是如此明确的事情，她认为无论我们最终进行什么样的医疗改革，这都是国会能够取缔的事情之一。
[MUSIC-"OH MY GOD" BY IDA MARIA]
[音乐-“OH MY GOD”，作者 IDA MARIA]
Well, we close today's show with a bit of fine print that codified and made irrevocable some other bigger changes in the life of Susan Burton and her family.
好吧，我们以一些小字来结束今天的节目，这些小字对苏珊·伯顿及其家人的生活进行了不可撤销的其他一些更大的改变。
When I was 13 my parents got divorced.
当我13岁的时候，我的父母离婚了。
And my mother, and my sister, and I moved from Michigan to Colorado.
我的母亲、姐姐和我从密歇根州搬到了科罗拉多州。
Like the pioneers, we settled in Indian territory, on a new street in a subdivision called Arapaho Ridge.
像拓荒者一样，我们在印第安人领土上定居，在阿拉帕霍岭一个分区的一条新街道上。
Our house was the color of sand.
我们的房子是沙子的颜色。
It had vaulted ceilings, a sunken family room, and the thing we found most offensive, a wet bar.
它有拱形天花板、下沉式家庭活动室，以及我们认为最令人反感的东西，那就是吧台。
The wet bar, with its ugly brass fittings and diamond paned glass, seemed to symbolize all that was wrong with our newly constructed lives.
酒吧里有丑陋的黄铜配件和镶有钻石的玻璃，似乎象征着我们新建的生活中所有的问题。
We were no longer the perfect family of four, worthy of a tasteful colonial.
我们不再是完美的四口之家，不再是一个有品味的殖民地。
We were two latch-key kids and a single parent.
我们是两个带钥匙的孩子和一个单亲父母。
And we'd been relocated to a tract house.
我们被搬到了一个小房子里。
My mother displaced her anger about this onto the wet bar by refusing to use it for its intended function.
我母亲将她对此的愤怒转移到了酒吧上，拒绝使用它的预期功能。
The wet bar became our junk drawer.
吧台成了我们的垃圾抽屉。
Instead of alcohol she kept files in there-- checkbook registers, coffee maker instructions, and my report cards, which since moving to Colorado, had begun to show lower grades than I'd ever gotten.
她在那里保存的不是酒精，而是文件——支票簿登记册、咖啡机说明和我的成绩单，自从搬到科罗拉多州以来，成绩单开始显示出比我以前得到的更低的成绩。
One day I was looking for my standardized test scores.
有一天，我正在查找我的标准化考试成绩。
There was no reason except that it was clear to me I was becoming stupid.
没有任何理由，只是我很清楚我正在变得愚蠢。
And I liked to be reminded that I'd once been smart.
我喜欢别人提醒我我曾经很聪明。
But instead, I found something unexpected, a big green hanging folder filled with documents labeled divorce.
但相反，我发现了一些意想不到的东西，一个绿色的大文件夹，里面装满了标有离婚的文件。
There was a moment of deciding whether or not to open it.
有一瞬间决定是否打开它。
Then cautiously, as if I might set off an alarm, I cracked the folder and began to read my parents' divorce agreement.
然后，我小心翼翼地打开文件夹，开始阅读父母的离婚协议，仿佛可能会引起警报。
There was nothing dramatic.
没有什么戏剧性的事情。
No secret half siblings.
没有秘密的同父异母的兄弟姐妹。
Not even a custody battle.
连监护权之争都没有。
To anyone else the agreement would have read like what it was, a standard legal document.
对于其他人来说，该协议读起来就像是一份标准的法律文件。
But my parents' divorce was the biggest thing in my life.
但我父母的离婚是我一生中最大的事情。
I dwelled on it to the point of obsession, to the point of melodrama.
我沉迷于它，达到了痴迷的程度，达到了戏剧性的程度。
As far as I was concerned, it was the most important fact about me.
就我而言，这是关于我的最重要的事实。
Discovering the agreement was like finding that a new story had somehow been bound into a book I'd already read a thousand times.
发现这个协议就像发现一个新故事不知何故被装进一本我已经读过一千遍的书中。
And like a favorite story, the agreement became something I returned to a couple of times a year all throughout my teens.
就像一个最喜欢的故事一样，这个协议成为我在青少年时期每年都会回顾几次的东西。
Their names were on the cover page, my mother, the plaintiff, versus my father, the defendant.
他们的名字出现在封面上：我的母亲（原告）和我的父亲（被告）。
There was the horrible wrongness of that v that divided them.
v 的可怕错误使他们产生了分歧。
My mother was represented by a lawyer named Bruce Barnhart.
我母亲的代理律师是布鲁斯·巴恩哈特 (Bruce Barnhart)。
To him, these agreements were probably just divorce Mad Libs.
对他来说，这些协议可能只是离婚疯狂的自由。
He'd sit at his big desk with my mother across from him and fill in blanks.
他坐在大桌子前，我母亲坐在他对面，填补空白。
Debts, $2,400 Cascade Country Club.
债务，$2,400 喀斯喀特乡村俱乐部。
Vehicles, 1986 Volkswagen Jetta.
车辆，1986 年大众捷达。
Bank accounts, Merrill Lynch.
银行账户，美林。
But when I read the agreement it didn't seem formulaic.
但当我读到协议时，它似乎并不公式化。
These details were precious to me.
这些细节对我来说很珍贵。
And I was grateful they'd been so painstakingly recorded.
我很感激他们如此精心地记录下来。
It made me feel important that somebody took an interest, set down our story like that.
有人对此感兴趣并像这样记下我们的故事，这让我感到很重要。
Even if the writer was just a lawyer in Grand Rapids, Michigan, who had been paid to do it.
即使作者只是密歇根州大急流城的一名律师，他是靠报酬来做这件事的。
Sometimes I would copy stuff down from the agreement, as if the information contained in it could get lost just as easily as our family.
有时我会抄下协议中的内容，好像其中包含的信息会像我们的家人一样容易丢失。
On one page I found the phone number of a house in which I'd briefly lived with my father when my parents first got separated.
在一页上，我找到了我父母第一次分居时我和父亲短暂居住过的一所房子的电话号码。
My father always had good phone numbers.
我父亲总是有很好的电话号码。
He got them by telling the operator he had a retarded child who needed something easy to memorize.
他通过告诉接线员他有一个弱智的孩子需要一些容易记住的东西来得到它们。
Not easy enough apparently.
显然不够容易。
I'd forgotten this one.
我差点忘了这个了
I copied the number down on a little Post-it note I saved for years, as if someday they might introduce a calling plan for dialing the past.
我把号码抄在一张我保存多年的便利贴上，仿佛有一天他们可能会推出一种拨打过去电话的通话计划。
My parents had joint legal custody, but my mother had physical custody.
我的父母拥有共同的法定监护权，但我的母亲拥有身体监护权。
This was divorced kid rank and serial number.
这是离婚孩子的等级和序列号。
And I was glad to know the exact terms.
我很高兴知道确切的条款。
Child support would be deducted from my father's paychecks and sent directly to my mother through a program called Friend of the Court.
子女抚养费将从我父亲的工资中扣除，并通过一个名为“法院之友”的计划直接发送给我母亲。
For a second I wondered if they were saying my father was a guy who couldn't be trusted to send the money himself.
有那么一瞬间，我想知道他们是否在说我父亲是一个不值得信任的人，不能相信他会亲自寄钱。
I knew it wasn't true.
我知道这不是真的。
But it had never occurred to me before.
但我以前从未想到过。
Going through the folder always brought a rush of different feelings.
翻阅文件夹总是会带来不同的感受。
There was the fear I'd be caught or that I'd find something disturbing, that my parents had done bad things, or were bad people.
我担心我会被抓住，或者我会发现一些令人不安的事情，我的父母做了坏事，或者是坏人。
But even the smallest thing could move me, something as simple as seeing my parents' initials together on the bottom right-hand corner of each page of a legal document.
但即使是最小的事情也能打动我，就像在法律文件每一页的右下角看到我父母姓名首字母缩写一样简单。
One afternoon, I found a document that stopped me cold.
一天下午，我发现了一份文件，让我顿时愣住了。
The hearing that was to set my parents' divorce in motion was only days away.
距离我父母离婚的听证会只剩几天了。
But in this note Mr. Barnhart had written, "Dear Nancy, this will confirm or telephone conference.
但巴恩哈特先生在这张便条中写道：“亲爱的南希，这将确认或召开电话会议。
I have adjourned the hearing date from January 30, 1987 to February 27, 1987.
我已将听证会日期从 1987 年 1 月 30 日推迟到 1987 年 2 月 27 日。
I wish you well in your efforts to resolve your marital difficulties.
我祝愿您努力解决婚姻困难。
I sat before the wet bar for a beat.
我在吧台前坐了一会儿。
I was a scholar of my parents' divorce who had just found the primary document of my dreams.
我是一位研究父母离婚的学者，刚刚找到了我梦想的主要文件。
Here was a suggestion that my parents had tried to stay together.
这是我父母试图住在一起的建议。
I ached that they hadn't been able to reconcile.
我为他们无法和解而感到痛苦。
It has been almost 20 years since I lived in that house.
我住在那所房子已经快20年了。
And I haven't looked at the agreement since, until recently.
从那以后我就没有再看过这份协议，直到最近。
I asked my mother for the folder.
我向妈妈要了文件夹。
And after she gave it to me, it took me a couple of days to open it.
她把它交给我后，我花了几天时间才打开它。
I was worried that the agreement wouldn't give me the same feeling.
我担心这份协议不会给我同样的感觉。
Maybe the story of my family's disintegration had lost its hold over me.
也许我的家庭破裂的故事已经失去了对我的影响。
It was possible that, like the music of Bon Jovi, I'd be mystified by its former appeal.
有可能，就像邦乔维 (Bon Jovi) 的音乐一样，我会对它以前的吸引力感到困惑。
But the agreement held up better than I'd expected.
但该协议的执行情况比我预期的要好。
I'd forgotten that a divorce agreement is like a murder mystery, where the murder happens on the first page.
我忘记了离婚协议就像谋杀之谜，谋杀发生在第一页。
The opening language is brutal.
开头的语言很残酷。
"There has been a breakdown in the marriage relationship to the extent that the objects of matrimony have been destroyed.
“婚姻关系已经破裂，以致婚姻的对象被毁坏。
And there remains no reasonable likelihood that the marriage can be preserved.
而且维持婚姻的可能性仍然不存在。
Now therefore, it is ordered and adjudged that this marriage is hereby dissolved."
因此，现命令并判决解除这段婚姻。”
I felt the same way reading these words at my desk as an adult as I had on the floor at 14.
我成年后在办公桌上读到这些文字的感受与 14 岁时在地板上读到的感受是一样的。
Back then these words knocked the wind out of me.
当时，这些话让我大吃一惊。
To me this wasn't legalese.
对我来说这不是法律术语。
I wasn't old enough ever to have signed a contract for a rental or to have read the terms and conditions of a credit card agreement.
我的年龄还不足以签署租赁合同或阅读信用卡协议的条款和条件。
To me this was the language of proclamations and founding documents.
对我来说，这是宣言和建国文件的语言。
It was commensurate with my experience of my parents' divorce as an event that had changed the world.
这与我对父母离婚这一改变世界的事件的经历相称。
The weight I felt inside was matched by the weight of these words.
我内心感受到的重量与这些话的重量相匹配。
At the end of those summer afternoons, I'd return the divorce agreement to the wet bar as reverently as if I were replacing the Constitution in its marble shrine.
在那个夏天的午后，我会把离婚协议书还给酒吧，虔诚地把它放回大理石神殿里。
Well our program was produced today by Sean Cole and myself, with Alex Blumberg, Jane Feltes, Sarah Koenig, Lisa Pollak, Alissa Shipp and Nancy Updike.
今天我们的节目是由 Sean Cole 和我本人以及 Alex Blumberg、Jane Feltes、Sarah Koenig、Lisa Pollak、Alissa Shipp 和 Nancy Updike 制作的。
Our senior producer is Julie Snyder.
我们的高级制片人是朱莉·斯奈德。
Production help from Aaron Scott.
亚伦·斯科特提供制作帮助。
Our music consultant each week is Jessica Hopper.
我们每周的音乐顾问是杰西卡·霍珀。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
[致谢]《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
Support for This American Life it provided by Fox Searchlight Pictures, presenting the new comedy 500 Days of Summer featuring 500 days of rooftop parties, broken hearts, kissing in the copy room, starring Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zooey Deschanel.
福克斯探照灯影业 (Fox Searchlight Pictures) 为《美国生活》提供支持，推出新喜剧《夏日的 500 天》，内容包括 500 天的屋顶派对、破碎的心、复印室里的接吻，由约瑟夫·高登·莱维特 (Joseph Gordon Levitt) 和佐伊·丹斯切尔 (Zooey Deschanel) 主演。
Now playing in select theaters.
现在正在选定的剧院上映。
WBEZ management oversight for our program by our boss Mr. Torey Malatia, who follows me around the office trying to always get me to say the letter L, which he knows I can't say.
我们的老板 Torey Malatia 先生对我们的项目进行 WBEZ 管理监督，他在办公室里跟着我，试图总是让我说出字母 L，但他知道我不能说这个字母。
He especially loves it when I say Lillian Hellman.
当我说莉莲·赫尔曼时，他特别喜欢。
I'm Ira Glass, back next week with more stories of This American Life.
我是艾拉·格拉斯，下周回来，带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。