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00:00 00:00 文字记录 分享此 美国生活 生活伙伴 如何收听 剧集 推荐 关于 概述 员工公告 奖学金 工作 音乐 在路上制作电台 常见问题解答 提交 商品 联系我们 我们的其他节目 商品 关注我们 生活伙伴 订阅我们的时事通讯 整集 切换音频和文字记录同步 文字记录 | 内容第 37 集 | 2003 年 9 月 26 日 37:掌控你生活的工作 注:《美国生活》是为耳朵而制作的,旨在让人们听到。

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Please check the corresponding audio before quoting in print.

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Prologue Ira Glass Maupassant didn't care much for the Eiffel Tower.

序言 艾拉·格拉斯·莫泊桑不太关心埃菲尔铁塔。

And he didn't care for the food at the restaurant in the Eiffel Tower.

而且他并不喜欢埃菲尔铁塔餐厅的食物。

But he ate lunch at the restaurant in the Eiffel Tower all the time.

但他一直在埃菲尔铁塔的餐厅吃午餐。

"It is the only place in Paris," he used to say, "where I don't have to see it." That is exactly how I feel about my job.

“这是巴黎唯一一个我不必亲眼目睹的地方,”他常说。这正是我对工作的感受。

I come into work days.

我进入工作日。

I come into work weekends.

我周末上班。

I stay late at night at work.

我工作到很晚。

At least if I'm here, I think, I'm not out worrying about all the things I'm supposed to be doing when I get here.

我想,至少如果我在这里,我就不会担心我到达这里后应该做的所有事情。

My dad used to work days and weekends and nights when I was a kid.

当我还是个孩子的时候,我父亲常常白天、周末​​和晚上工作。

Now, some Saturdays, he calls me up.

现在,有些星期六,他会给我打电话。

I'm at the office.

我在办公室。

He's at the office.

他在办公室。

A couple weeks ago, I realized two things about my job, my job producing this radio show, this one right here that you're listening to.

几周前,我意识到关于我的工作的两件事,我制作这个广播节目的工作,你正在听的这个节目。

I realized that every week as I come to grips with the fact of having to actually do the show, I go through the five stages that Elizabeth Kubler Ross says you go through to come to grips with death.

我意识到,每周当我面对必须真正完成这部剧的事实时,我都会经历伊丽莎白·库伯勒·罗斯所说的应对死亡所经历的五个阶段。

Do you remember the stages?

你还记得这些阶段吗?

Denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.

否认、愤怒、讨价还价、抑郁和接受。

That was the first thing I realized.

这是我意识到的第一件事。

The second thing I realized was that if I'm having these feelings, I'm spending way too much time at my job.

我意识到的第二件事是,如果我有这些感觉,那么我在工作上花费了太多时间。

You know, I'm not here to talk about me though.

你知道,我来这里不是为了谈论我自己。

I'm here to talk about you.

我来这里是为了谈谈你。

Our show today, it's all about you.

我们今天的节目,都是关于你的。

You, you work too hard.

你,你也太辛苦了。

You spend too many hours at work.

你在工作上花费了太多时间。

You spend too many hours thinking about work.

你花了太多时间思考工作。

And if you don't have a job, you spend too many useless hours thinking about that.

如果你没有工作,你就会花太多无用的时间思考这个问题。

Today's show, The Job That Takes Over Your Life.

今天的节目是《掌控你生活的工作》。

Act One, a guy who interviews sick people until he comes to believe that he is sick.

第一幕,一个采访病人直到他相信自己病了的人。

Act Two, some teenagers who think they're signing up to be in a play find out they're joining a sort of cult instead.

第二幕,一些以为自己报名参演戏剧的青少年发现自己加入了某种邪教组织。

Act Three, guys who thrown in the slammer simply because they don't want to work in unsafe conditions.

第三幕,那些只是因为不想在不安全的条件下工作而扔下猛烈撞击器的人。

Act Four, let's not even go into what's in Act Four right now.

第四幕,我们现在先不讨论第四幕的内容。

Act One.

第一幕。

Scott Carrier I was hired to interview men and women in the state of Utah who receive Medicaid support for treatment of mental illnesses generally diagnosed as schizophrenia.

斯科特·卡里尔 (Scott Carrier) 我受雇采访犹他州的男性和女性,他们接受医疗补助支持,用于治疗通常被诊断为精神分裂症的精神疾病。

That's Scott Carrier, who's had an on again, off again, career as a radio reporter in Salt Lake City.

这就是斯科特·卡里尔(Scott Carrier),他在盐湖城担任电台记者,职业生涯时断时续。

He was hired for this interviewing job because the director of the research project heard some of his radio stories and thought he was a good interviewer, somebody who knew how to listen.

他受聘担任这项采访工作是因为研究项目的主管听了他的一些广播故事,并认为他是一位优秀的采访者,是一个懂得如何倾听的人。

They taught Scott how to administer this test which measured mental health.

他们教斯科特如何进行这项测量心理健康的测试。

It was 100 questions, each of which was scored on a scale of one to seven.

共有 100 个问题,每个问题的评分范围为 1 到 7。

It took an hour to give the test.

考试花了一个小时。

Scott was paid $30 for each test he gave.

斯科特每次测试都会得到 30 美元的报酬。

The people he gave the test to got $5.

他接受测试的人得到了 5 美元。

I had little understanding of schizophrenia before I began, and I have little more understanding now.

在开始之前我对精神分裂症知之甚少,现在我也没有更多的了解。

I took the job because I had no other.

我接受这份工作是因为我没有其他工作。

I took the job because I just quit my steady job, my professional job, after realizing that what I wanted more than anything was to put my boss on the floor and stand on his throat and watch him gag.

我之所以接受这份工作,是因为我刚刚辞去了稳定的工作,我的专业工作,因为我意识到我最想要的就是把我的老板按倒在地,站在他的喉咙上,看着他作呕。

Then my wife moved out, took the kids and everything.

然后我妻子搬了出去,带着孩子和一切。

She said, "I've thought about it, and I really think it's the best thing for me at this time in my life."

她说:“我想了一下,我真的认为这对我来说是一生中最好的事情。”

And so I took the job interviewing schizophrenics because it was offered to me, and because it was all there seemed to be.

所以我接受了采访精神分裂症患者的工作,因为这是给我的,而且因为这似乎就是一切。

And it seemed somehow predestined, a karmic response that could not be avoided.

这似乎是命中注定的,是无法避免的业力反应。

It would only be temporary, something to get through the summer.

这只是暂时的,只是为了度过夏天。

And I was told that they needed someone willing to drive around the state, through the small towns searching out individuals who were often transient and prone to hiding.

有人告诉我,他们需要有人愿意开车在全州各地行驶,穿过小镇寻找那些经常短暂停留且容易躲藏的人。

I like to drive.

我喜欢开车。

I like to travel, and I like the idea of pursuit.

我喜欢旅行,也喜欢追求的想法。

So I took the job and did the job, and my life will never be the same.

所以我接受了这份工作并完成了这份工作,我的生活将永远不一样。

The patient is 21 years old and has lived with his parents since his discharge from the Army.

患者今年 21 岁,退伍后一直与父母住在一起。

He has no friends, no recreational activities and no social life.

他没有朋友,没有娱乐活动,也没有社交生活。

He spends his time writing and reading, but these activities do not give him any pleasure.

他把时间花在写作和阅读上,但这些活动并没有给他带来任何乐趣。

He has lost weight, has general anxiety and loss of libido and occasional feelings of unreality.

他体重减轻,普遍焦虑,性欲减退,偶尔有不真实的感觉。

He is worried about his unpredictable behavior.

他对自己不可预测的行为感到担忧。

For example, getting down on all fours and chewing the grass because he was thinking what it would be like to be a cow.

例如,他趴下嚼草,因为他在想成为一头牛会是什么样子。

The patient is 25 years old and believes that she is the devil and therefore responsible for all the evil in the world.

患者今年 25 岁,相信自己是魔鬼,因此应对世界上所有的邪恶负责。

She has not been out of her house for seven days and only comes down from her room for meals.

她已经7天没有出过家门了,只是吃饭才从房间下来。

A few days ago, her mother walked into her room and found her crying.

几天前,她妈妈走进她的房间,发现她在哭。

She asked her mother what was the most painful punishment that one human being could inflict upon another.

她问母亲,一个人可以对另一个人施加的最痛苦的惩罚是什么。

The mother tried to get the reason for this question, and her daughter mumbled something about the devil having to be punished for the benefit of humanity, something about having to die for his sins.

母亲试图找出这个问题的原因,而她的女儿则咕哝着一些关于魔鬼必须为了人类的利益而受到惩罚的事情,以及关于必须为他的罪孽而死的事情。

When the mother asked her if she still thought she was the devil, she answered, "Let's not get into that again.

当母亲问她是否还认为自己是魔鬼时,她回答说:“我们不要再讨论这个问题了。

It only upsets you, and you don't believe me anyway, even when the evidence is all around you, plain for you to see."

这只会让你心烦意乱,而且你也不相信我,即使证据就在你身边,你也看得一清二楚。”

The people I interview are all so sad, so lonely with such thin souls, like ghosts and demons have invaded their hearts and are sucking their souls dry.

我采访的人都是那么悲伤,那么孤独,灵魂那么薄弱,就像鬼魂恶魔侵入了他们的内心,正在吸干他们的灵魂。

A person's soul should be like an ocean, but a schizophrenic's soul is like a pool of rain in a parking lot.

人的灵魂应该像一片海洋,但精神分裂症患者的灵魂却像停车场的一池雨。

They suffer, and they are completely alone in their suffering.

他们受苦,而且他们是完全孤独的受苦者。

And there's nothing I can do, nothing anyone can do, to bring them back.

我无能为力,任何人也无能为力,无法让他们回来。

I come home at night and cry.

晚上我回家哭。

I sob like a three-year-old.

我像个三岁孩子一样抽泣。

Today, halfway through an interview with a man in Tooele, he says "I have a crystal in my pouch.

今天,在图埃勒采访一名男子时,他说:“我的袋子里有一块水晶。

Do you want to see it?" I say "OK," and he takes it out, a normal crystal the size of a large paper clip.

你想看吗?”我说“好的”,然后他拿出了它,这是一个大回形针大小的普通水晶。

And he says, "I can look through this, and it will tell me whether you're a good person or a bad person.

他说:“我可以看一下这个,它会告诉我你是好人还是坏人。

What do you want me to do?

你想让我做什么?

Do you want me to look through it or not?" My first thought is to say, "Do you want to go on with the interview?

你要我看还是不看?”我的第一个想法是说:“你想继续采访吗?

Maybe when we're done, you can look through the crystal."

也许当我们完成后,你可以透过水晶看看。”

But then, I realized that he's really asking me to take his test, just like I'm asking him to take mine.

但后来我意识到他真的要求我参加他的考试,就像我要求他参加我的考试一样。

I come into his house, I ask him very personal questions, and I expect him to answer honestly.

我走进他的房子,问他非常私人的问题,我希望他诚实地回答。

And why should he?

他为什么要这样做?

So I say, "OK, go ahead." And he puts the crystal up to his eye, turns it clockwise and counterclockwise, back and forth, squinting, looking me up and down.

所以我说:“好吧,继续吧。”他把水晶放在眼前,顺时针、逆时针、来回转动,眯着眼睛,上下打量着我。

And he says, "I can't tell for sure.

他说:“我不能确定。

I'm going to have to read your mind.

我得读懂你的想法。

Here, take my hand."

来,握住我的手。”

He holds out his right hand with the crystal resting in the palm.

他伸出右手,掌心托着水晶。

I take his hand, and he puts his left hand over mine and squeezes it tight and shakes it and goes into a small spasm.

我握住他的手,他将左手放在我的手上,紧紧地握着,摇晃着,然后开始轻微的痉挛。

The he lets go, and sits back like he's exhausted.

他放开手,坐回原处,仿佛精疲力尽。

He asks me if I felt anything, and I say, "Maybe a little." And he says, "I sent you a message.

他问我是否感觉到了什么,我说:“也许有一点。”他说:“我给你发了一条消息。

I put it in your mind.

我把它记在你心里了。

I told you what is wrong with me."

我告诉过你我出了什么问题。”

I'm not supposed to figure out what's wrong with these people.

我不应该弄清楚这些人出了什么问题。

I'm just supposed to ask the questions and score the answers from one to seven.

我只需要提出问题并给答案打分(从一到七)。

This is partly because I'm not a doctor and might get something going that I wouldn't know how to contain.

部分原因是我不是医生,可能会发生一些我不知道如何控制的事情。

But it's mainly because my supervisors want clean data.

但这主要是因为我的主管想要干净的数据。

They want all the people asking the questions to be doing it in the same way.

他们希望所有提出问题的人都以同样的方式这样做。

I'm not supposed to get emotional.

我不应该情绪化。

I'm not supposed to let the patient get emotional.

我不应该让病人情绪激动。

The therapy part of the county mental health system is in another department.

县精神卫生系统的治疗部分在另一个部门。

I wouldn't even know what number to call, and I've been told more than once not to worry about it.

我什至不知道该拨打什么号码,而且我不止一次被告知不要担心。

I should never have let him take the crystal out of his pouch.

我不应该让他从袋子里取出水晶。

I drove around all day trying to find a Navajo man.

我整天开车四处寻找纳瓦霍人。

He lives very close to the Four Corners, the cross where Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona meet.

他住的地方离“四角”很近,即犹他州、科罗拉多州、新墨西哥州和亚利桑那州的交界处。

It's all dirt roads, a house every five miles or so, no addresses, no phones.

都是土路,每五英里左右就有一栋房子,没有地址,没有电话。

I stop at every house and knock on the door, but either nobody's home, or nobody will answer.

我在每家每户都停下来敲门,但要么没人在家,要么没人回答。

I flag down every car that passes and ask directions, and the people offer complicated directions that I follow as best as possible, sometimes driving for 20 or 30 miles.

我标记每辆经过的汽车并询问方向,人们会提供复杂的方向,我会尽可能地遵循,有时会行驶 20 或 30 英里。

But it's always the wrong place, or nobody's home, or there just isn't a house there at all.

但它总是在错误的地方,或者没人在家,或者根本就没有房子。

Driving around, I think about how I have some of the same problems as the people I interview.

开车四处走动时,我思考自己是否也遇到了与我采访的人相同的问题。

I'm angry, depressed, prone to paranoid delusions, and I worry a lot.

我很生气,很沮丧,容易产生偏执妄想,而且我很担心。

Up to now, I thought these were common problems, and that I was more or less able to control them.

到目前为止,我认为这些都是常见问题,而且我或多或少能够控制它们。

But now, I don't know.

但现在,我不知道了。

I feel like I'm just faking it.

我觉得我只是在假装。

Eventually, late in the afternoon, I find the man, or at least I think he's the man.

最终,在下午晚些时候,我找到了那个人,或者至少我认为他就是那个人。

I'm a third of the way through the test before I realize he's not the right guy.

在我意识到他不是合适的人选之前,我已经通过了三分之一的测试。

"When was your last visit to a mental health clinic?" "I don't go to the clinic." "When did you last see a doctor?" "I don't have a doctor." "Do you blame yourself for anything you've done or not done?" "No." "Have you felt more self-confident than usual?" "No." "Have you heard voices or other things that weren't there, or that other people couldn't hear, or have seen things that weren't there?" And he says, "I think you want to talk to my son." And I ask him what his son's name is, and he says, "Same as mine."

“您最后一次去心理健康诊所是什么时候?” “我不去诊所。” “你上次看医生是什么时候?” “我没有医生。” “你会因为自己做过或没做过的事情而责怪自己吗?” “不。” “你是不是感觉比平时更自信了?” “不。” “你有没有听到过不存在的声音或其他东西,或者其他人听不到的东西,或者看到过不存在的东西?”他说:“我想你想和我儿子谈谈。”我问他儿子叫什么名字,他说:“和我的一样。”

I come back the next morning and interview the son in the kitchen.

第二天早上我回来在厨房采访儿子。

They make coffee for me on a propane camp stove as the house has no electricity.

由于房子没有电,他们用丙烷野营炉为我煮咖啡。

The son is 19 years old, a good looking kid, tall, healthy, says he used to run cross country in high school.

儿子今年19岁,长得好看,个子高,身体健康,说他高中时曾跑过越野跑。

He seems to be fine, but as I go through the questions, he starts to fix his eyes on mine, a direct, almost hypnotic stare straight into my head like he's trying to pull me in and trap me.

他看起来很好,但当我回答问题时,他开始盯着我的眼睛,一种直接、近乎催眠的目光直视着我的脑袋,就像他试图把我拉进去并困住我一样。

I try to look back, to look just as deeply into his mind, but it's like looking into a cave.

我试着回头看,同样深入地观察他的思想,但这就像看一个山洞。

He says he hears voices, satanic voices, and that he worries a lot about his shoes, that they're not the right kind, not the kind he sees on MTV.

他说他听到了声音,恶魔的声音,他非常担心他的鞋子,因为它们不是正确的类型,不是他在 MTV 上看到的那种。

I can't tell if he's sick, or if he's just trying to torture me.

我不知道他是否生病了,或者他只是想折磨我。

And I drive away thinking, I don't know anything about this disease, that I know even less than when I started.

我开始想,我对这种疾病一无所知,甚至比开始时还要少。

I spent two days driving around and I made $30.

我花了两天的时间开车兜风,赚了 30 美元。

And I feel really, really, tired.

我感觉真的真的很累。

The house is dark as all the windows have heavy curtains pulled nearly shut.

房子里一片漆黑,所有窗户都拉着厚重的窗帘,几乎关上了。

The curtains over the big picture window in the living room are open just a bit, and the light cuts through like a laser beam and hits the red, shag carpet, throwing up small dust particles and cigarette ash.

客厅大窗户上的窗帘打开了一点,光线像激光束一样穿透,照在红色的粗地毯上,扬起细小的灰尘颗粒和烟灰。

Two feet away from the light, near the television, is a slice of pizza lying upside down in the carpet.

距离灯光两英尺远,靠近电视的地方,有一片披萨倒放在地毯上。

I'm interviewing a woman, a mother, and her teenage daughter is on the phone talking to her boyfriend, or rather a series of boyfriends who call and call, and all of them wanted to go out right now, but her mother won't let her.

我正在采访一位女士,一位母亲,她十几岁的女儿正在打电话给她的男朋友,或者更确切地说,是一系列不断打电话的男朋友,他们现在都想出去,但她的母亲不让她。

She's trying to answer my questions, trying to concentrate and be polite, but she's mainly listening to what her daughter is saying on the phone.

她试图回答我的问题,试图集中注意力并保持礼貌,但她主要是听她女儿在电话里说的话。

And will suddenly switch from saying, "No, no, I've been feeling fine.

然后会突然从说:“不,不,我一直感觉很好。

I haven't had a relapse and months," to screaming out, "Is that John?

我已经好几个月没有复发了,”尖叫着,“那是约翰吗?

I told you never to talk to him again." Or, "Who is it?

我告诉过你永远不要再和他说话了。”或者,“是谁?

Is it a boy?

是男孩吗?

You can't go out.

你不能出去。

Tell him he has to come over here."

告诉他他必须来这里。”

I can't stop looking at the slice of pizza on the carpet.

我无法停止看着地毯上的披萨片。

I keep looking at the slice of pizza because it's the only clue that the woman is sick.

我一直看着那片披萨,因为这是那个女人生病的唯一线索。

I mean she has a teenage daughter and a dirty house, and maybe she shouldn't try to wear her makeup to bed, but these are not necessarily symptoms of schizophrenia.

我的意思是她有一个十几岁的女儿和一个肮脏的房子,也许她不应该化妆睡觉,但这些不一定是精神分裂症的症状。

She seems to be fine, just worn out, until I get to the question, "Have you been worrying a lot?" And she says yes she has.

她看起来很好,只是疲惫不堪,直到我问“你一直担心吗?”她说是的,她有。

She's been worrying a lot that the elders of the Church, the Mormon Church, will take her daughter away from her.

她一直很担心摩门教教会的长老们会把她的女儿从她身边带走。

And I ask her why, and she says because she stopped taking her medication.

我问她为什么,她说因为她停止服药了。

And I ask her, "Why did you stop taking your medication?" And she says that the only reason she takes it is because she told her bishop that she was visited by the archangel Gabriel, and that she had had sex with him.

我问她:“你为什么停止服药?”她说,她接受的唯一原因是她告诉她的主教,大天使加百列拜访了她,并且她与他发生了性关系。

And then, she was also visited by the archangel Michael, and that she had sex with both of them at once.

然后,她也被大天使米迦勒拜访,并且她同时与他们两人发生了性关系。

And that they'd ravished her almost every night.

他们几乎每晚都对她进行蹂躏。

So her bishop made her go to a doctor, and the doctor gave her some pills.

所以她的主教让她去看医生,医生给了她一些药。

And she took the pills, and the angels stopped coming.

她吃了药,天使就不再来了。

The bishop and the elders had told her that if she had sex with any more angels, they'd take her daughter away.

主教和长老们告诉她,如果她和更多的天使发生性关系,他们就会把她的女儿带走。

So I asked her again why she'd stopped taking her medication.

于是我又问她为什么停止服药。

And she says, "I'm lonely.

她说:“我很孤独。

I miss them.

我想念他们。

I want them to come back."

我希望他们回来。”

Today in a restaurant eating lunch between interviews, I decided to take the test.

今天在面试间隙在一家餐厅吃午餐,我决定参加考试。

I answered the questions and scored myself appropriately, and at some point I realized I wasn't doing so well.

我回答了问题并给自己打了适当的分,在某些时候我意识到自己做得不太好。

I decided not to even add up the points because then I'd be left with a score, and I'd never forget it.

我决定不把分数加起来,因为那样我就会得到一个分数,而且我永远不会忘记它。

If I were to write a report on myself, it would sound something like this.

如果我要写一份关于自己的报告,听起来会是这样的。

"The patient is 36 years old and lives alone since his wife left him three weeks ago.

“患者今年 36 岁,自从三周前妻子离开他以来,他一直独自生活。

She took the kids and all the silverware, except for a large knife and a bowl and a coffee cup.

她拿走了孩子们和所有的银器,除了一把大刀、一个碗和一个咖啡杯。

The patient admits that her leaving may have had something to do with the fact that without warning, he completely gutted the house, tore out all the walls and ceilings, all the lath and plaster right down to the studs.

病人承认,她的离开可能与以下事实有关:在没有任何警告的情况下,他把房子彻底拆毁了,拆掉了所有的墙壁和天花板,所有的板条和灰泥,甚至连螺柱都被拆掉了。

He says he did this in order to live like a primitive.

他说他这样做是为了像原始人一样生活。

When asked if he was successful, he says it was the first step in the right direction."

当被问及他是否成功时,他说这是朝着正确方向迈出的第一步。”

"The patient is a 36-year-old male who lives alone since his wife and children left him two months ago.

“患者是一名 36 岁男性,自从两个月前妻子和孩子离开他以来,他一直独自生活。

He says there's a darkness that separates him from other people, a heavy darkness, like looking at a person from the bottom of a well.

他说有一种黑暗将他和其他人分开,一种沉重的黑暗,就像从井底看一个人。

He believes that if he could say the right words, then the darkness would go away.

他相信,如果他能说出正确的话,那么黑暗就会消失。

He says he sometimes knows the right words but cannot say them.

他说他有时知道正确的词语,但无法说出来。

Other times, he can't even think of the words to say."

其他时候,他甚至想不出该说些什么。”

"The patient is 36 years old and lives alone since his wife and children left him three months ago.

“患者今年 36 岁,自从三个月前妻子和孩子离开他以来,他一直独自生活。

Last week, he went fishing in the [?

上周,他去[?

San Juans and now believes that there's no better fisherman than himself.

圣胡安斯现在相信没有比他自己更好的渔夫了。

He says, 'I can't tell you about it because talking about fishing is silly, like farting and tap dancing at the same time.

他说:“我不能告诉你这件事,因为谈论钓鱼很愚蠢,就像同时放屁和踢踏舞一样。”

All I can say is I walk around in the water, and I know the instant that fish will jump for the fly.

我只能说,我在水里走来走去,我知道鱼儿会扑向苍蝇的那一刻。

I cut open their stomachs and squeeze out the bugs in my hand, study what they eat, how it all gets digested, even the exoskeleton and wings.' He says he was sick before, but now he's OK, and that it was the fly rod, just holding the rod in his hand, that cured him.

我切开它们的胃,挤出手中的虫子,研究它们吃什么,如何消化它们,甚至包括外骨骼和翅膀。”他说他以前病过,但现在好了,是飞蝇竿的作用,只要手里握着飞蝇竿,就治好了他的病。

His house is clean.

他的房子很干净。

The electricity is on.

电源已接通。

The walls have been sheet-rocked and painted white.

墙壁是用板岩砌成的,并漆成白色。

He says, 'I'll have to ask her, beg her, and maybe she'll come back.'"

他说,‘我必须问她,求她,也许她会回来。’”

That's Scott Carrier in Salt Lake City.

那是盐湖城的斯科特·卡里尔。

Years after writing that story, it is now in print in a collection of Scott's work, which comes out in March, called Running After Antelope.

在写完这个故事多年后,它现在被收录在斯科特的一本名为《追羚羊》的作品集中,于三月出版。

Coming up, more stories about jobs that take over your life.

即将推出更多有关影响您生活的工作的故事。

Act Two, Tribe.

第二幕,部落。

Of course this is This American Life .

当然,这就是《美国生活》。

I'm Ira Glass.

我是艾拉·格拉斯。

And a couple weeks ago, coming out of The Bluebird, a bar here on Clybourn Avenue in Chicago.

几周前,我从芝加哥克莱伯恩大道上的一家酒吧 The Bluebird 出来。

I was with my friend Teresa, and we're going out of the bar.

我和我的朋友特蕾莎在一起,我们要走出酒吧。

And we walk, and there's this group of maybe 40 people that comes skipping.

当我们步行时,有一群大约 40 人来跳绳。

I mean that's a word you don't really use very often to describe people, adults, in front of you, but they were more or less skipping down the street, chattering, half walking, half running.

我的意思是,你并不经常用这个词来形容你面前的人,成年人,但他们或多或少在街上蹦蹦跳跳,喋喋不休,半走半跑。

And they greet us joyously and look us in the eye.

他们高兴地向我们打招呼,看着我们的眼睛。

And they surround us, and they seem curious and happy and alive.

他们围绕着我们,他们看起来好奇、快乐、充满活力。

It seems like a group of three or four dozen people who are in love, in love, all of them.

看起来就像是一群三四打的人,他们都在恋爱,都在恋爱。

It turns out it's the cast of Hair, which is in town, or was in town then.

原来是头发的演员,正在城里,或者当时就在城里。

These are mostly college kids from Cal State Fullerton who've been drafted into this road company of the show, grown long hair.

这些人大多是来自加州州立大学富勒顿分校的大学生,他们被选入该节目的公路连,留着长发。

One woman tells me, "I have never felt so strongly about love and peace and the war." They're not just in a play, they say, they are on a mission, a mission to spread tolerance and love.

一位女士告诉我,“我从来没有对爱、和平和战争有如此强烈的感受。”他们说,他们不仅仅是在演戏,他们还有一个使命,一个传播宽容和爱的使命。

And they say things like--

他们说这样的话——

1996, we need the message of love, peace and freedom because without a small group of people that can hold onto those old values, we're in major trouble.

1996 年,我们需要爱、和平与自由的信息,因为如果没有一小群人能够坚持这些旧价值观,我们就会遇到大麻烦。

The idea is we have to live the life so that we can continue that that life is real.

这个想法是我们必须过这样的生活,这样我们才能继续生活是真实的。

They're all wearing matching necklaces with these little Native American stones hung on them, signifying that they're are members of a tribe they call the Potawatomi Tribe.

他们都戴着配套的项链,上面挂着这些美洲原住民小石头,这表明他们是波塔瓦托米部落的成员。

They all live together in a dorm.

他们都住在一个宿舍里。

And a couple days after this, Peter Clowney, from the staff of our radio show, decided to visit that dorm to see just how much this job, being in this play, had taken over their lives.

几天后,我们广播节目的工作人员彼得·克劳尼(Peter Clowney)决定参观那个宿舍,看看这部剧中的这份工作在多大程度上占据了他们的生活。

When I arrive at the dorm, it's 1:30 in the afternoon, and most of the tribe is just getting out of bed.

到达宿舍的时候,已经是下午1点30分了,部落里的大部分人都刚刚起床。

The show's choreographer is playing Prince on a boombox in the second floor lobby to wake everyone up.

该剧的编舞师正在二楼大厅的音箱上播放 Prince 的声音来叫醒大家。

About six people dance, and late risers in towels and boxers weave their way around them on their way to the showers.

大约有六个人跳舞,穿着毛巾和平角内裤的晚起者在他们周围蜿蜒前往淋浴间。

Some of them stop for hugs.

他们中的一些人停下来拥抱。

I collar one for questioning.

我给其中一个套上项圈以供盘问。

Oh, extremely happy, extremely happy.

噢,太幸福了,太幸福了。

I've never been happier, ever.

我从来没有这么快乐过,从来没有。

They give me so much love, love that I've never felt before in my entire.

他们给了我如此多的爱,我以前从未感受过的爱。

It's so scary because I called my mom on Sunday, and I told her how this has been really life-changing and everything.

这太可怕了,因为我周日打电话给我妈妈,我告诉她这真的改变了我的生活以及一切。

And I really scared her.

我真的吓到她了。

But I mean it's just been so great.

但我的意思是它真是太棒了。

I wish it could never end.

我希望它永远不会结束。

I really do.

我真的这么做。

I hear this maybe a dozen times while I hang out with the tribe.

当我和部落一起出去玩时,我可能听到过十几次这样的说法。

Phyllis Ivy, an enthusiastic member of the tribe, listens in on my interview with Ephraim, and then she jumps in.

菲利斯·艾薇(Phyllis Ivy)是部落里一位热心的成员,她听了我对以法莲的采访,然后她也加入进来。

I have a question, Ephraim.

我有一个问题,以法莲。

Do you differentiate the show, Hair , from the tribe, or is this a production that-- because we're going to go on.

你是否将《头发》这个节目与《部落》区分开来,或者这是一个制作——因为我们要继续下去。

We're all going to play other roles and everything.

我们都会扮演其他角色和一切。

I mean true, this is such a life-changing experience for me as well, but when you get down to it, we are actors.

我的意思是,这对我来说也是一次改变生活的经历,但当你认真对待它时,我们是演员。

We are paid to play this role.

我们是有报酬扮演这个角色的。

True.

真的。

Ephraim I will never be as close to other actors as I will to this group.

以法莲 我永远不会像与这个团体那样与其他演员如此亲密。

The original producer or Hair, Michael Butler, traveled the country for two years looking for a college production of the show that he could turn into a national touring company.

最初的制片人或头发,迈克尔·巴特勒,花了两年的时间走遍全国,寻找该节目的大学制作,他可以​​将其转变为一家全国性的巡回演出公司。

He chose this group because on stage, in some undefinable way, they seem like a real tribe.

他选择这个团体是因为在舞台上,以某种无法定义的方式,他们看起来像一个真正的部落。

They have the spirit of a real tribe, even if they aren't the greatest singers and dancers.

他们拥有真正的部落精神,即使他们不是最伟大的歌手和舞者。

And in the early days of rehearsals for the national tour, they had encounter sessions where it was drilled into them that this is more than just a show, that this is more than just a business, that they really are a tribe.

在全国巡演排练的初期,他们遇到了一些会议,他们被灌输这不仅仅是一场演出,这不仅仅是一桩生意,他们真的是一个部落。

But of course it is a business.

但这当然是一门生意。

People have jobs to do.

人们有工作要做。

They have to be able to sing and act and show up on time.

他们必须能够唱歌、表演并准时出现。

And when the producers take the show on the road, they'll face a business problem.

当制片人上路演出时,他们将面临业务问题。

There's only enough money to bring about 25 of the cast members, downsizing from 38.

资金只够容纳大约 25 名演员,从 38 人减少到一半。

Phyllis Ivy says it'd be understandable if they chose the best singers and performers.

菲利斯·艾维说,如果他们选择最好的歌手和表演者,这是可以理解的。

There are people who can't sing in this show.

这个节目里有不会唱歌的人。

There are people who can't hold pitch.

有些人无法保持音调。

There are people who can't act.

也有无法行动的人。

There are people who can't dance.

有些人不会跳舞。

If we were to audition for this show, if in New York, Michael Butler wanted to hold auditions for the world tour of Hair, there are not a lot of people in this cast who would be in that show.

如果我们去试镜这个节目,如果在纽约,迈克尔·巴特勒想为《Hair》世界巡演进行试镜,那么这个剧组中没有多少人会参加那个节目。

This sounds common sense, but within the world of this tribe, it's heresy.

这听起来是常识,但在这个部落的世界里,却是异端邪说。

They've been told that everyone belongs in the tribe if they believe in it and work hard.

他们被告知,只要相信并努力工作,每个人都属于这个部落。

A few cast members stand and listen to Phyllis say this with their arms crossed.

几名演员站着,交叉双臂听菲利斯说这句话。

And then they come over.

然后他们过来了。

"Can I pipe in?" one of them asks.

“我可以插进去吗?”其中一位问道。

OK, because I don't want anything negative to be--

好吧,因为我不希望出现任何负面的事情——

Oh no. Sasha But you know what?

哦不。萨沙 但你知道吗?

We've got more heart and soul than any of these casts put together, and our show is actually pretty incredible.

我们的心血比这些演员加起来还要多,而且我们的节目实际上非常令人难以置信。

And I know I never would have probably had a chance because I'm not a strong singer, but with my dedication and my heart and soul involved in the show, it's been life-changing.

我知道我可能永远不会有机会,因为我不是一个强大的歌手,但凭借我的奉献精神和我对演出的全心全意,它改变了我的生活。

And it's a lot more than that.

而且远不止于此。

Sasha is one of those people who cannot really-- she's not a vocal person.

萨莎是那些不能真正发声的人之一——她不是一个敢于发声的人。

But she is a great and every bit a part of the show as you and I are.

但她是一个伟大的人,和你我一样,她也是这个节目的一部分。

When Phyllis Ivy responds, she's trembling.

当菲利斯·艾薇回应时,她浑身发抖。

I didn't want to appear like that.

我不想以这样的方式出现。

However, I mean we've talked about tribe, and we've talked about how we all bring in individual talents into the show.

然而,我的意思是我们已经讨论了部落,我们也讨论了我们如何将个人才能带入节目中。

I walk downstairs, and I'm surprised to see how quickly word spreads that I saw them disagreeing.

我走下楼,惊讶地发现我看到他们不同意的消息传播得如此之快。

They want me to believe they get along.

他们想让我相信他们相处得很好。

When I go into the rec room, where some of the guys are playing ping pong, a cast member comes looking for Nathan, one of the de facto leaders of the tribe.

当我走进娱乐室时,一些人正在打乒乓球,一名演员走过来寻找内森,他是部落事实上的领袖之一。

You have to talk to me?

你必须跟我说话吗?

Hair Cast Member 4 Yeah, real quick.

发型师 4 是的,很快。

There's a hurried conversation around the corner.

拐角处有一阵匆忙的谈话。

Nathan returns with a speech to make to me.

内森回来后要向我发表演讲。

I know that everybody wants the best for this show.

我知道每个人都希望这个节目得到最好的结果。

If it goes on with the 38 people we have now, great.

如果我们现有的 38 名员工继续这样下去,那就太好了。

But if not, those people are going to obviously go through a lot of pain and a lot of hurt.

但如果不这样做,那些人显然会经历很多痛苦和伤害。

But then I think that their belief in the show is going to continue to just send us energy and vibes and say, we still love you guys really and we want you to do the best that you can.

但我认为他们对这部剧的信念将继续给我们带来能量和共鸣,并说,我们仍然真的爱你们,我们希望你们尽力而为。

Nathan is not just spinning me.

内森不仅仅是在旋转我。

He believes this.

他相信这一点。

He's completely sincere.

他是完全真诚的。

Of everyone in this group, Nathan, at 21, is the one everyone says is a real hippie.

在这群人中,21 岁的内森 (Nathan) 是大家都说的真正的嬉皮士。

Nathan dressed like a hippie.

内森穿得像个嬉皮士。

He looked like a hippie even before he got a part in Hair.

甚至在参演《Hair》之前,他就看起来像个嬉皮士。

An for nine months now, he's been a peacekeeper in the group, someone whose earnestness and belief in getting along and taking care of each other has helped keep the group going.

九个月来,他一直是该组织的维和人员,他对相处和互相照顾的真诚和信念帮助该组织得以持续发展。

But now, while Nathan talks about love holding the cast together even when 13 people might get cut, one of the guys in the room, Rod, snorts and mutters under his breath.

但现在,当内森谈论即使 13 个人可能被裁掉也要让演员们团结在一起时,房间里的一个人罗德却哼了一声,低声嘀咕着。

And then he lays into Nathan.

然后他躺在内森身上。

It's [BLEEP], Nate, to say that you're not going to have animosity, and that you'd be saying good vibes.

这是[BLEEP],Nate,表示你不会有敌意,并且你会表达良好的共鸣。

Who's going to be sending good vibes, man?

谁会带来良好的氛围,伙计?

OK, then maybe not for you.

好吧,那么也许不适合你。

But wouldn't you be happy if I went on tour?

但如果我去巡演你会不高兴吗?

Who do you know that's going to be sending good vibes when they don't get to go?

你知道谁会在他们无法离开时传递良好的氛围吗?

Probably not.

可能不会。

I would love to, but I doubt it.

我很愿意,但我对此表示怀疑。

I'll have to get down on my hands and [UNINTELLIGIBLE].

我必须趴下并且[无法理解]。

No, I really want to go.

不,我真的很想去。

And if I don't go, I'm going to be really miserable and really hateful.

如果我不去的话,我会非常痛苦,非常可恨。

And he's honest about it too.

他对此也很诚实。

Rod I'm going to be-- I don't know.

罗德 我会——我不知道。

Nathan, you know you're going to go.

内森,你知道你要走。

The only guy with real long hair and a beard, and they're going to leave him here.

唯一一个留着真正的长发和胡子的人,他们要把他留在这里。

Give me a break.

让我休息一下。

Unintentionally over the course of nine months, the tribe has revived another part of '60's communal living along with peace and love.

九个月的时间里,部落不知不觉地恢复了 60 年代集体生活的另一部分,以及和平与爱。

It's resentment, competitiveness and paranoia.

这是怨恨、竞争和偏执。

I was taken aback when I asked Derek an innocent question like, "What's the tribe like?" And he responded this way.

当我问德里克一个天真的问题时,我吃了一惊,比如“部落是什么样的?”而他也是这样回应的。

Here's the point.

这就是重点。

I'm going to tell you this.

我要告诉你这一点。

Whoever doesn't want to be Potawatomi shouldn't be Potawatomi, and they really shouldn't be in the Potawatomi tribe, which will happen.

谁不想成为波塔瓦托米人,就不应该成为波塔瓦托米人,他们真的不应该在波塔瓦托米部落,这将会发生。

If you cannot be Potawatomi, walk.

如果你不能成为波塔瓦托米,那就步行。

If you don't want to be a tribe, get out.

如果你不想成为一个部落,那就出去吧。

If you don't like what we do, get out.

如果你不喜欢我们所做的,那就滚吧。

It's where we are.

这就是我们现在所在的地方。

And if you think that you can stay in and still want to put a monkey wrench in our action, you will not.

如果你认为你可以留下来,但仍然想对我们的行动施加破坏,你就不会这么做。

We will put you out.

我们会把你赶出去。

We invite you in, and we ask you to leave.

我们邀请你进来,我们请你离开。

I did those interviews a few weeks ago.

我几周前做了那些采访。

And for now, the cast is off-tour.

目前,演员们已经停止巡演。

Most of them are at school.

他们中的大多数人都在学校。

No decisions have been made yet about who would tour in the spring, and so everyone is still getting along.

目前还没有决定谁将在春季巡演,所以每个人都还在相处。

When they run into each other at school though, members of the tribe still hug each other, just like they always have.

不过,当他们在学校相遇时,部落成员仍然会互相拥抱,就像往常一样。

And another student said to them recently, "When are you guys going to cut out all that love crap?"

另一位学生最近对他们说:“你们什么时候才能戒掉那些爱情垃圾?”

Well, coming up, guys who get thrown in jail because they refuse to work in conditions that get 320 of their coworkers blown up.

好吧,接下来是那些因为拒绝在导致 320 名同事被炸死的条件下工作而被投入监狱的人。

That's in a minute from Public Radio International when our program continues.

一分钟后,国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。

It's This American Life.

这就是美国生活。

I'm Ira Glass.

我是艾拉·格拉斯。

Each week of course we bring you a variety of stories around some theme.

当然,每周我们都会围绕某个主题为您带来各种故事。

Today's theme, the job that takes over your life.

今天的主题是,占据你生活的工作。

We interrupt this broadcast to bring you this important bulletin from the United Press.

我们中断本次广播,为您带来联合通讯社的重要公告。

Flash, Washington.

闪电侠,华盛顿。

The White House announces Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

白宫宣布日本袭击珍珠港。

Stay tuned to WOR for further development, which will be broadcast immediately as received.

请继续关注 WOR 以了解进一步的开发,该开发将在收到后立即播出。

After Pearl Harbor, the Navy opened to blacks for the first time.

珍珠港事件后,海军首次向黑人开放。

But rather than get sent out on ships, one large group of African American men found themselves stationed in one of the least desirable dumps.

但一大群非裔美国男子并没有被派上船,而是发现自己驻扎在最不理想的垃圾场之一。

It was literally a dump, an ammo dump called Port Chicago.

这实际上是一个垃圾场,一个叫做芝加哥港的弹药场。

This is just north of San Francisco.

这里位于旧金山北部。

Now, the place is called Concord Naval Weapons Station.

现在,这个地方被称为康科德海军武器站。

Their job was to load ammunition onto ships, and conditions were so unsafe that it was the site of the worst stateside disaster of the war.

他们的工作是将弹药装载到船上,那里的条件非常不安全,以至于这里成为美国本土战争中最严重的灾难发生地。

On July 17, 1944, two ships blew up, killing 320 men and rocking all of San Francisco in what many people thought was just an earthquake.

1944 年 7 月 17 日,两艘船爆炸,造成 320 人死亡,整个旧金山都震动了,许多人认为这只是一场地震。

A court of inquiry blamed the sailors.

调查法庭将责任归咎于水手们。

It concluded-- here's a quote, "The colored enlisted personnel are neither temperamentally nor intellectually capable of handling high explosives." Well, when survivors were ordered right back to work-- the guys who had survived the whole thing, they were sent right back to work.

它的结论是——这里引用了一句话:“有色人种士兵在性格上和智力上都没有能力处理烈性炸药。”好吧,当幸存者被命令立即返回工作岗位时——那些在整个事件中幸存下来的人,他们被立即送回工作岗位。

They were told, go back to work under the same conditions.

他们被告知,在同样的条件下回去工作。

50 of them refused, and they were sentenced to up to 15 years of hard labor.

其中50人拒绝,并被判处最高15年的苦役。

Over the years since then, there have been many attempts to clear their names, including in 1944 by then civil rights attorney, Thurgood Marshall.

此后的多年来,人们多次试图为他们洗清罪名,包括 1944 年时任民权律师瑟古德·马歇尔 (Thurgood Marshall) 的尝试。

Dan Collison spoke with five survivors of the incident about what really happened at Port Chicago.

丹·科里森与该事件的五名幸存者谈论了芝加哥港的真实情况。

We sent everything out of there, from 30-30 rifle cartridges all the way up to 2,000 pound blockbusters, we called them.

我们从那里寄出了所有东西,从 30-30 发步枪子弹一直到 2,000 磅重的重磅炸弹(我们称之为“重磅炸弹”)。

My job basically was to load ammunition with the crew, which worked in the hold of the ship.

我的工作基本上是与在船舱工作的船员一起装载弹药。

You'd be down in the hold.

你会被困在货舱里。

Here come those big bombs and things coming down the ramp-way they had built.

那些大炸弹和东西从他们建造的坡道上下来了。

But sometimes, they let it come down too fast.

但有时,他们让它下降得太快。

And they hit together, and they made a loud noise.

他们撞在一起,发出巨大的声音。

You hear this all night long, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

你整夜都听到这个声音,轰隆,轰隆,轰隆,轰隆,轰隆,轰隆。

And this would almost give you a heart attack.

这几乎会让你心脏病发作。

Yeah, you would almost have a heart attack.

是的,你差点心脏病发作。

And so we used to ask them sometimes, say, "Is there any danger of this ammunition exploding?" They'd say, "Oh no, don't worry about it.

所以我们有时会问他们,“这种弹药有爆炸的危险吗?”他们会说:“哦,不,别担心。

It's safe.

很安全。

It's not live." They said they don't have any detonators in them.

这不是直播。”他们说他们里面没有雷管。

We were not trained to load ammunition.

我们没有接受过装载弹药的训练。

We would take ammunition-- we'd take a crowbar when we had to go so high.

我们会带上弹药——当我们必须爬得那么高时,我们会带上撬棍。

We'd take that crowbar and push that ammunition up there because they told us it would not explode because it didn't have any detonator in it.

我们会拿起撬棍并将弹药推到那里,因为他们告诉我们它不会爆炸,因为里面没有任何雷管。

We believed that.

我们相信这一点。

All of the loading crews were black.

所有装载人员都是黑人。

There were no white loading crews.

没有白人装载人员。

You didn't have a lot of white people that you saw.

你看到的白人并不多。

We only had basically one officer, and he would be the only person white.

我们基本上只有一名军官,他是唯一的白人。

Well, the white officers, they didn't have much to do with us anymore.

好吧,白人警官,他们与我们没有太多关系了。

And to stand around and supervise and see that we loaded that ammunition.

并站在周围监督并检查我们是否装载了弹药。

It was pressure.

这是压力。

We were told that so much had to be done that night.

我们被告知那天晚上有很多事情要做。

We had to do this so much.

我们不得不做这么多。

It was a rush race.

这是一场匆忙的比赛。

And the division commanders push the petty officers to push the man to load as much as they could as fast as they could.

师长们催促士官们催促这个人尽可能快地装货。

But we knew they were betting, $100 or so that my division will put on more ammunition than your division.

但我们知道他们在打赌,赌注是 100 美元左右,我的师会比你的师配备更多的弹药。

Each one would put up money that their division would out-load the other one for those particular shifts or that particular day.

每个人都会投入资金,让他们的部门在特定的轮班或特定的日子里超越另一个部门。

They had day lotteries, week, and whole ship lottery.

他们有日抽签、周抽签和整船抽签。

Frequently, the urgent need for ammunition forced the depot to load two ships at the same time at the same pier.

通常,由于对弹药的迫切需要,仓库不得不在同一个码头同时装载两艘船。

So it was on the night of July 17, 1944.

那是 1944 年 7 月 17 日晚上。

The Quinault Victory and the E.A.

奎诺尔特胜利和 E.A.

Bryan were moored at the Naval magazine, Port Chicago.

布莱恩停泊在芝加哥港的海军杂志社。

16 cars of ammunition and bombs were spotted on the pier beside the Quinault Victory as the ship rigged to load.

当“奎诺胜利号”正在装货时,在码头上发现了 16 辆弹药和炸弹。

Bryan had been loading day and night for more than three days.

三天多来,布莱恩日以继夜地进行装载工作。

3.5 million pounds of explosives were aboard or waiting nearby on the pier.

船上或码头附近等待着 350 万磅炸药。

Everything was normal until 10:19.

直到10点19分一切正常。

It was a Monday, a hot July day.

那是一个星期一,七月里炎热的一天。

And for some reason, the day was kind of a day that I felt a great foreboding, and I don't know why.

出于某种原因,这一天我感到一种强烈的不祥预感,我不知道为什么。

The lights were out at 10:00.

10:00 灯灭了。

So the lights went out at 10:00.

于是,10:00 灯就灭了。

We were all returned to our bunk.

我们都回到了自己的铺位。

I had pimples, still being a teenager.

我还是个十几岁的孩子,脸上长了痘痘。

So nightly, I would go in and tidy myself up and put on Noxzema.

所以每天晚上,我都会进去把自己收拾干净,然后穿上 Noxzema。

And I got back to my locker, put my gear away, said my prayers and leaped up-- I had a top rack-- and I leaped up in the rack.

我回到我的储物柜,把我的装备收起来,说了我的祈祷,然后跳了起来——我有一个顶架——我跳到了架子上。

And here comes the voice over the intercom system again.

对讲系统中的声音再次响起。

"Lights out.

“灯灭了。

Quiet about the deck."

甲板上很安静。”

I'm laying there with my hands behind my head looking out at the sky.

我躺在那里,双手枕在脑后,看着外面的天空。

And at that time, I guess a few minutes after the lights went out, the sky lit up, and it was just like the sun rose.

那时,我猜灯灭了几分钟后,天空亮了起来,就像太阳升起一样。

Everything was bright.

一切都明亮了。

You could see all the buildings for a second.

你可以看到所有的建筑物一秒钟。

Shortly after that, here comes the second explosion, filling the sky with all kinds of lights and colors like at a fourth of July celebration.

不久之后,第二次爆炸发生了,天空充满了各种各样的灯光和颜色,就像七月四日庆祝活动一样。

Then came the concussion.

然后就是脑震荡。

The concussion blew a hole in my body.

脑震荡在我身上炸出了一个洞。

My left arm got mutilated.

我的左臂被肢解了。

Face, head, neck, shoulders and body got mutilated.

脸部、头部、颈部、肩膀和身体都被肢解。

That was the first explosion.

那是第一次爆炸。

The second was just a few seconds afterwards.

第二次就在几秒钟之后。

That lifted me out of the bunk and threw me on the floor.

这把我从床铺上提了起来,扔到了地板上。

All hell broke loose, and it was just a lot of confusion because glass was everywhere.

一切都乱了套,到处都是玻璃,一片混乱。

Men were just in fear, and some had run out in their bare feet and shorts.

人们只是感到害怕,有些人光着脚和短裤跑了出去。

And it was just bedlam.

这简直就是一片混乱。

You could hear the people now screaming and yelling, "Get out of the barracks.

你可以听到人们尖叫着喊道:“滚出军营。

It's coming down." So I myself scuffled, crawled out and took off for the outside.

它要下来了。”于是我自己扭打着,爬了出来,向外面走去。

And when there were no other explosions, then I crawled out.

当没有其他爆炸发生时,我就爬了出去。

But then I noticed that I couldn't see clearly.

但后来我发现我看不清楚。

And that's when I first realized then that I was hurt.

那是我第一次意识到我受伤了。

And I called to my buddy, "Hey Morris, come and get me and take me to the sick bay." And then somebody else hollered, "Well, the sick bay has been blown up."

我对我的伙伴喊道:“嘿莫里斯,来接我,带我去医务室。”然后有人喊道:“好了,医务室被炸毁了。”

When I got outside, there were a few people outside yelling for volunteers to go down to the docks.

当我到外面时,外面有几个人喊着让志愿者到码头去。

I went up to the guy and said, "Hey, I want to volunteer." He asked me, "Did you see Percy get out of the barracks?" He didn't recognize me.

我走到那个人面前说:“嘿,我想当志愿者。”他问我:“你看到珀西走出军营了吗?”他没有认出我。

He was my squad leader because my face was so mutilated from the blood and guts.

他是我的班长,因为我的脸被血和内脏弄得支离破碎。

The left eye was lacerated so badly that that was removed that night.

左眼被严重撕裂,当晚就被摘除。

And then the right was lacerated, and so consequently, the right eye-- eventually, I lost the sight in that too.

然后右眼被撕裂,右眼也随之被撕裂——最终,我的右眼也失明了。

So that was the beginning of the end and caused me to be a blind person.

这就是结局的开始,让我成为一个盲人。

In the Pacific war, American battleships, cruisers and destroyers shelled Guam island on Sunday for the second straight day.

在太平洋战争中,美国战列舰、巡洋舰和驱逐舰周日连续第二天炮击关岛。

Here at home, officials say that 337 persons are known dead or missing and presumed dead, more than 300 hundred others injured, as the result of last night's explosion of two ammunition ships at Port Chicago in upper San Francisco Bay.

在国内,官员们表示,昨晚旧金山湾上游芝加哥港两艘弹药船发生爆炸,造成 337 人死亡、失踪和推定死亡,另有 30000 多人受伤。

And now, General Electric takes you to Washington.

现在,通用电气带您前往华盛顿。

The first thing I thought, same thing, Pearl Harbor again So that's what it was like, just like somebody dropped bombs over the whole thing.

我首先想到的是,同样的事情,又是珍珠港事件,所以事情就是这样,就像有人向整个事件投下炸弹一样。

It didn't look like it was an explosion from one of the ships.

看起来不像是其中一艘船发生爆炸。

It looked like a plane had come down and just bombarded the place.

看起来就像一架飞机刚刚降落并轰炸了这个地方。

In the waterfront barracks and administration area, buildings crumpled like cardboard, roofs blown off, walls gone.

在海滨军营和行政区,建筑物像纸板一样倒塌,屋顶被炸毁,墙壁消失。

In the vicinity of the loading piers, total destruction.

装货码头附近完全被毁。

Both ships broken, twisted hulks.

两艘船都破碎、扭曲。

That was a shocking thing to see those ships torn up and seeing-- I was standing watch over all those dead bodies.

看到那些船被撕毁,我站在那儿看守所有的尸体,真是令人震惊。

I had to stand watch over that.

我必须对此保持警惕。

That was my duty, and you couldn't tell one from the others.

那是我的职责,你无法区分其中之一。

Meantime, the court of inquiry was collecting testimony and exhibits.

与此同时,调查法庭正在收集证词和证物。

Experts in all fields were called in to study the area.

各个领域的专家都被召集来研究该领域。

The cause of the explosion could not be fixed with certainty, but it was suspected that a depth charge was accidentally detonated.

爆炸原因无法确定,但怀疑是深水炸弹意外引爆。

I knew what it was because we were expecting it all the time.

我知道那是什么,因为我们一直在期待它。

We worked with that in mind that one day, that stuff would blow up.

我们工作时就考虑到有一天,那些东西会爆炸。

We felt like just we were getting a raw deal because we were the ones that were doing the dirty work.

我们感觉自己受到了不公平的对待,因为我们才是做肮脏工作的人。

We were the ones that were fooling with the ammunition.

我们才是那些玩弄弹药的人。

So why shouldn't we have a leave of absence to get away to get your nerves settled.

那么为什么我们不应该请假出去走走,让你的神经安定下来呢。

But that didn't happen.

但那并没有发生。

I think I was in the hospital maybe all week, and I think the day after, I returned to [UNINTELLIGIBLE].

我想我可能整个星期都在医院里,我想第二天我又回到了[无法理解]。

We were ordered to go to work, and I still was bandaged up, face, arms.

我们被命令去上班,而我的脸、手臂仍然缠着绷带。

My stitches were still there and everything.

我的缝线还在那里,一切都还在那里。

So we were lined up outside the barracks to go to work.

于是我们就在军营外排队去上班。

They hadn't told us what we had to do yet, but then they said, "Forward march."

他们还没有告诉我们必须做什么,但随后他们说:“前进。”

I was marching on the outside.

我在外面行进。

I called cadence.

我打电话给节奏。

Something like this, Hoo left, hoo left, hoo left right left.

像这样,呼左,呼左,呼左右左。

Left 2, 3, 4, left, right, left.

左2、3、4,左、右、左。

And I believe it was Lieutenant Delucchi He said, "Column left." And when he said, "column left," everybody stopped because "column left" meant we were going to the docks.

我相信是德鲁奇中尉说的,“纵队离开了。”当他说“向左纵队”时,每个人都停下来,因为“向左纵队”意味着我们要去码头。

And the docks meant loading ammunition.

码头意味着装载弹药。

They gave us an ultimatum, would you load ammunition?

他们给我们下了最后通牒,你愿意装弹药吗?

That's the ultimatum we had.

这就是我们的最后通牒。

And I told them myself, I said, "I am absolutely afraid," which I was.

我自己告诉他们,我说,“我绝对害怕”,我确实害怕。

"I'm afraid to load ammunition." "You step over there then." Then they called another one, and I think he told them the same thing.

“我害怕装载弹药。” “那你到那边去吧。”然后他们又打电话给另一个人,我想他也告诉了他们同样的事情。

"You step over there." And when the end of the day was over, I think just about all of us had stepped over there.

“你到那边去吧。”当一天结束时,我想我们几乎所有人都走到了那里。

Then the Admiral came down and explained to us what our responsibilities were.

然后海军上将下来向我们解释我们的责任是什么。

He told us-- he said "Well, one thing I want to tell you is that you could be charged with mutiny if you don't go back to work."

他告诉我们——他说:“好吧,我想告诉你的一件事是,如果你不回去工作,你可能会被指控叛变。”

And he explained at that time, if we refused to go back to work, he could have us shot.

他当时解释说,如果我们拒绝回去工作,他可以​​枪毙我们。

It was the cue.

这是提示。

When he said you could be shot, then the fellows went to mumbling.

当他说你可能会被枪杀时,其他人就开始嘀咕起来。

You know, a lot of people are afraid to die.

你知道,很多人都害怕死亡。

From my upbringing, my mother taught me that if a white man threatened to hang you, he would do it at his first legal chance.

在我的成长过程中,我的母亲告诉我,如果一个白人威胁要绞死你,他会在第一次合法机会时这样做。

And she told me about the Klan, and she was brought up in Mississippi.

她告诉我有关三K党的事,她是在密西西比州长大的。

So I believed that they had a legal chance to shoot us, so I was afraid.

所以我相信他们有合法的机会向我们开枪,所以我很害怕。

So I said well, I'm not going to give them a change to shoot me.

所以我说好吧,我不会给他们机会来射杀我。

I'll go back to work.

我会回去工作。

But then 50 of us decided we weren't going to go back to work.

但后来我们 50 个人决定不再回去工作。

If we were going to get shot, they just had to shoot us because we weren't going to go back and load anymore ammunition.

如果我们要被枪杀,他们就必须向我们射击,因为我们不会回去装载更多弹药。

That's when we were arrested.

就在那时我们被捕了。

I would say "arrested" because we were all shipped to I think it was Treasure Island.

我会说“被捕”,因为我们都被运送到我认为是金银岛。

We were sent to stockade.

我们被送到了寨子里。

Then we found out that we were charged with mutiny.

然后我们发现我们被指控叛变。

We didn't commit any mutiny.

我们没有叛变。

We didn't take over any ship.

我们没有接管任何船只。

We didn't take over a base.

我们没有占领基地。

We had no weapons.

我们没有武器。

We didn't even have a pen.

我们连笔都没有。

We only refused to go back to work.

我们只是拒绝回去工作。

Now how could that be mutiny?

这怎么可能是叛变呢?

I didn't know anything about mutiny.

我对叛变一无所知。

I just knew that I didn't want to work under the same conditions that I did work under and advance the chance of the same thing happening again.

我只知道我不想在与我工作时相同的条件下工作,并增加同样的事情再次发生的机会。

Well, the mutiny trial-- it's just like a thing that is cut and dry.

嗯,叛变审判——就像是一件已经切好的事情。

We were all sitting over here.

我们都坐在这里。

All the white officers were over here.

所有的白人军官都在这里。

We weren't allowed to say anything but what they would ask us.

除了他们会问我们的问题外,我们不被允许说任何话。

The verdict was guilty as charged.

根据指控,判决有罪。

I expected it from the way that the trial went.

从审判的进行过程中我就预料到了这一点。

Of course, the length of the sentence was a surprise.

当然,这句话的长度令人惊讶。

The lowest sentence in there, I think, was eight years.

我认为其中最低的刑期是八年。

I had 12 years.

我有12年了。

And some had 16.

有的有 16 个。

Well, I don't even remember crying behind it.

好吧,我什至不记得背后哭过。

I know I did after I got into prison, but it just seemed like it was something that was going to happen in the end after the trial.

我知道我进监狱后就这么做了,但这似乎是审判后最终会发生的事情。

You know after you sit in the trial for a few days, then you see what was going down.

你知道,当你参加审判几天后,你就会看到发生了什么。

7:00 PM, Eastern Wartime.

晚上 7:00,东部战时。

Bob Trout reporting.

鲍勃·特劳特报道。

The Japanese have accepted our terms fully.

日本人完全接受了我们的条件。

That's the word we have just received from the White House in Washington.

这是我们刚刚从华盛顿白宫收到的消息。

This, ladies and gentleman, is the end of the Second World War.

女士们先生们,这就是第二次世界大战的结束。

The United Nations, on land, on the sea, in the air and to the four corners of the Earth, are united and are victorious.

联合国在陆地、海上、空中、地球四个角落,团结一致,取得胜利。

Well, when the war ended, after they had suspended our sentence, they had to release us.

嗯,当战争结束后,在他们缓刑之后,他们不得不释放我们。

We got our discharge.

我们出院了。

My discharge from the Navy prevented me from receiving jobs that I would have received as a civilian.

我从海军退伍后,我无法获得作为平民应该得到的工作。

It branded me as a person incapable of following orders.

它给我贴上了一个无法服从命令的人的标签。

I used to not be able to talk about it because it would hurt.

我以前不能谈论它,因为它会伤害我。

It would hurt inside.

里面会痛。

You didn't want your friends to know that you was in the service, and you had been charged with mutiny.

你不想让你的朋友知道你在服役,并且你被指控叛变。

You didn't want people to think that you didn't like your country or something, that you'd do something like that.

你不想让人们认为你不喜欢你的国家或其他什么,你会做那样的事情。

They're still in this country we knew about.

他们仍然在我们所知道的这个国家。

Not even with the fellows I worked with.

即使是和我一起工作的同事也不行。

I didn't talk about it with my wife or children.

我没有和我的妻子或孩子谈论这件事。

Every time I would bring it up or even think about it, it looked like I got a hateful feeling in me.

每次我提起这件事,甚至想到这件事,我的心里都会有一种厌恶的感觉。

And it would just about tear me apart.

它只会让我心碎。

I just hated the other race.

我只是讨厌其他种族。

And the hate was building up.

仇恨正在积聚。

It stayed with me.

它留在了我身边。

The hate stayed with me.

仇恨一直伴随着我。

Hate can really destroy a person.

仇恨真的可以毁掉一个人。

I could've been a better father, I believe, if I hadn't had that hate.

我相信,如果我没有那种仇恨,我本可以成为一个更好的父亲。

I wouldn't abuse them or anything, but there were just things that I didn't talk about, things I held in, things I think I could have done better.

我不会虐待他们或任何事情,但有些事情我没有谈论,我坚持的事情,我认为我可以做得更好的事情。

We can think of ourselves as a hero because we stood up for our rights.

我们可以将自己视为英雄,因为我们捍卫了自己的权利。

We stood up because we knew that we did not commit mutiny.

我们站起来,因为我们知道我们没有叛变。

I think it was right.

我认为这是对的。

I don't know how heroic it is, but it was right.

我不知道这有多英雄,但这是正确的。

I was fighting for something, and if you were to ask me to put a name on it, I don't know.

我正在为某件事而奋斗,如果你要我在上面写上名字,我不知道。

But things were not right, and it was my desire to make things right.

但事情并不对劲,而我的愿望就是让事情变得对劲。

I have never felt ashamed of the decisions that I made.

我从未为自己所做的决定感到羞耻。

I did what I thought was best, and I did it in the best way I knew how.

我做了我认为最好的事情,并且以我知道的最好方式做了它。

Long ways back.

回来的路还很长。

It doesn't seem like it's been 50 years, and it still hangs over us at 50 years.

好像还没有过去50年,但50年后它仍然笼罩着我们。

Albert Williams, Freddie Meeks, Joseph Small, Percy Robinson and Robert Routh talked to Dan Collison, who produced that story.

艾伯特·威廉姆斯、弗雷迪·米克斯、约瑟夫·斯莫尔、珀西·罗宾逊和罗伯特·劳斯与该故事的制作人丹·科里森进行了交谈。

Gary Covina was the editor.

加里·科维纳是编辑。

Funding for the story came from the Funding Exchange.

这个故事的资金来自资金交易所。

The Navy has made it a policy never to discuss the Port Chicago case, and has never exonerated the sailors who were court-martialed.

海军制定了永远不讨论芝加哥港案件的政策,也从未为那些被军事法庭审判的水兵开脱。

In 1999, President Clinton pardoned one of the survivors, Freddie Meeks.

1999 年,克林顿总统赦免了幸存者之一弗雷迪·米克斯。

Act Four, Orientation.

第四幕,定位。

Our theme today is the job that takes over your life.

我们今天的主题是掌控你生活的工作。

And of course nearly any job can do that.

当然,几乎任何工作都可以做到这一点。

You don't have to be working in unsafe conditions with millions of tons of explosives to have a job dominate you.

你不必在不安全的条件下使用数百万吨爆炸物工作才能让工作主宰你。

In fact, I would argue even the most innocent, innocuous office job could do the trick.

事实上,我认为即使是最无辜、无害的办公室工作也能起到作用。

I offer as evidence this story by Daniel Orozco called "Orientation."

我提供丹尼尔·奥罗斯科(Daniel Orozco)写的这个名为“定向”的故事作为证据。

Those are the offices, and these are the cubicles.

这些是办公室,这些是小隔间。

That's my cubicle there, and this is your cubicle.

那是我的小隔间,这是你的小隔间。

This is your phone.

这是你的电话。

Never answer your phone.

永远不要接听你的电话。

Let the voicemail system answer it.

让语音邮件系统接听。

This is your voicemail system manual.

这是您的语音信箱系统手册。

There are no personal phone calls allowed.

不允许拨打私人电话。

These are your in and out boxes.

这些是您的进出箱。

You must pace your work.

你必须调整你的工作节奏。

What do I mean?

我是什么意思?

I'm glad you asked that.

我很高兴你这么问。

We pace our work according to eight-hour workday.

我们按照八小时工作日安排工作节奏。

If you have twelve hours of work in your inbox, for example, you must compress that work into an eight-hour day.

例如,如果您的收件箱中有 12 个小时的工作时间,则必须将其压缩为每天 8 小时。

If you have one hour of work in your inbox, you must expand that to fill the eight-hour day.

如果您的收件箱中有一个小时的工作内容,则必须将其扩展以填满一天的八小时。

That was a good question.

这是一个好问题。

Feel free to ask questions.

欢迎提问。

Ask too many questions, however, and you may be let go.

然而,问太多问题,你可能会被解雇。

Russell Nash, who sits in the cubicle to your left, is in love with Amanda Pierce, who sits in the cubicle to your right.

坐在你左边隔间里的拉塞尔·纳什(Russell Nash)爱上了坐在你右边隔间里的阿曼达·皮尔斯(Amanda Pierce)。

They ride the same bus together after work.

下班后他们一起乘坐同一辆公共汽车。

For Amanda Pierce, it's just a tedious bus ride made less tedious by the idle nattering of Russell Nash.

对于阿曼达·皮尔斯来说,这只是一次乏味的公交车之旅,但拉塞尔·纳什的闲聊让这一切变得不那么乏味。

But for Russell Nash, it's the highlight of his day, It's the highlight of his life.

但对于拉塞尔·纳什来说,这是他这一天的亮点,这是他一生的亮点。

Russell Nash has put on 40 pounds and grows fatter with each passing month, nibbling on chips and cookies while peeking glumly over the partition at Amanda Pierce, engorging himself at home on cold pizza and ice cream while watching adult videos on TV.

拉塞尔·纳什 (Russell Nash) 的体重增加了 40 磅,而且每个月都在变得更胖。他一边啃着薯条和饼干,一边闷闷不乐地透过隔断偷看阿曼达·皮尔斯 (Amanda Pierce),一边在家里一边吃着冷披萨和冰淇淋,一边看电视上的成人视频。

Amanda Pierce, in the cubicle to your right, has a six-year-old son named Jamie who's autistic.

阿曼达·皮尔斯(Amanda Pierce)就在你右边的小隔间里,她有一个六岁的儿子,名叫杰米(Jamie),患有自闭症。

Her cubicle is plastered from top to bottom with the boy's crayon artwork, sheet after sheet of precisely drawn concentric circles and ellipsis in black and yellow.

她的小隔间从上到下都贴满了男孩的蜡笔作品,一张又一张用黑色和黄色精确绘制的同心圆和省略号。

She rotates them every other Friday.

她每隔周五轮换一次。

Be sure to comment on them.

请务必对它们发表评论。

Amanda Pierce also has a husband who's a lawyer.

阿曼达·皮尔斯还有一位律师丈夫。

He subjects her to an escalating array of painful and humiliating sex games to which Amanda Pierce reluctantly submits.

他让她经历一系列不断升级的痛苦和羞辱性游戏,阿曼达·皮尔斯不情愿地接受了。

But we're not supposed to know any of this.

但我们不应该知道这些。

Do not let on.

不要泄露出去。

If you let on, you may be let go.

如果你泄露了,你可能会被解雇。

Amanda Pierce, who tolerates Russell Nash, is in love with Albert Bosch, whose office is over there.

阿曼达·皮尔斯(Amanda Pierce)容忍拉塞尔·纳什(Russell Nash),却爱上了阿尔伯特·博斯​​(Albert Bosch),他的办公室就在那里。

Albert Bosch, who only dimly registers Amanda Pierce's existence, has eyes for Ellie Tapper, who sits over there.

阿尔伯特·博斯​​(Albert Bosch)只隐隐约约地注意到阿曼达·皮尔斯(Amanda Pierce)的存在,但他的目光却注视着坐在那边的埃莉·塔珀(Ellie Tapper)。

Ellie Tapper, who hates Albert Bosch, would walk through fire for Curtis Lance, but Curtis Lance hates Ellie Tapper.

讨厌阿尔伯特·博斯​​的艾莉·塔珀愿意为柯蒂斯·兰斯赴汤蹈火,但柯蒂斯·兰斯讨厌艾莉·塔珀。

It's the world a funny place?

这世界是一个有趣的地方吗?

Not in the ha-ha sense of course.

当然不是哈哈意义上的。

Anika Bloom in that cubicle.

阿尼卡·布鲁姆就在那个小隔间里。

Last year, while reviewing quarterly reports in a meeting with Barry Hacker, Anika Bloom's left palm began to bleed.

去年,在与巴里·哈克(Barry Hacker)开会审查季度报告时,阿尼卡·布鲁姆(Anika Bloom)的左手掌开始流血。

She fell into a trance, stared into her hand, told Barry Hacker when and how his wife would die.

她陷入了恍惚状态,凝视着自己的手,告诉巴里·哈克他的妻子将在何时以及如何死亡。

We laughed it off.

我们一笑置之。

She was, after all, a new employee.

毕竟她是新员工。

But Barry Hacker's wife is dead.

但巴里·哈克的妻子去世了。

So unless you want to know exactly when and how you'll die, never talk to Anika Bloom.

因此,除非您想确切知道自己何时以及如何死亡,否则永远不要与阿尼卡·布鲁姆交谈。

For your information, we have a comprehensive health plan.

供您参考,我们有一个全面的健康计划。

Any catastrophic illness, any unforeseen tragedy is completely covered.

任何灾难性的疾病、任何不可预见的悲剧都被完全承保。

All dependents are completely covered.

所有家属均得到完全承保。

This is our kitchenette, and this, this is our Mr. Coffee.

这是我们的小厨房,这是我们的咖啡先生。

This is the microwave oven.

这是微波炉。

You are allowed to heat food in the microwave oven.

您可以用微波炉加热食物。

You are not, however, allowed to cook food in the microwave oven.

但是,您不可以用微波炉烹饪食物。

This is the refrigerator.

这是冰箱。

You may put you lunch in it.

你可以把午饭放进去。

Barry Hacker, who sits over there, steals food from the refrigerator.

坐在那边的巴里·哈克(Barry Hacker)从冰箱里偷食物。

His petty theft is an outlet for his grief.

他的小偷小摸是他悲伤的发泄方式。

Last New Year's Eve while kissing his wife, a blood vessel burst in her brain.

去年除夕夜,在亲吻妻子时,她的脑部血管破裂。

Barry Hacker's wife was two months pregnant at the time and lingered in a coma for a half year before dying.

巴里·哈克的妻子当时怀孕两个月,昏迷了半年才去世。

It was a tragic loss for Barry Hacker.

对于巴里·哈克来说,这是一次悲惨的损失。

He hasn't been himself since.

从那以后他就不再是他自己了。

Barry Hacker's wife was a beautiful woman.

巴里·哈克的妻子是一位美丽的女人。

She was also completely covered.

她也被彻底覆盖了。

Barry Hacker did not have to pay one dime.

巴里·哈克无需支付一毛钱。

But his dead wife haunts him.

但他死去的妻子却一直困扰着他。

She haunts all of us.

她困扰着我们所有人。

We have seen her reflected in the monitors of our computer moving past our cubicles.

我们看到她的影子出现在我们的电脑显示器上,经过我们的小隔间。

We've seen the dim shadow of her face in our photocopies.

我们在复印件上看到了她脸上模糊的阴影。

She pencils herself into the receptionist's appointment book with the notation, "To see Barry Hacker." She left messages in the receptionist's voicemail box, messages garbled by the electronic chirps and buzzes in the phone line, her voice echoing from an immense distance within the ambient hum.

她在接待员的预约簿上用铅笔写下了“去见巴里·哈克”。她在接待员的语音信箱中留下了信息,电话线上的电子鸣叫声和嗡嗡声使信息变得混乱,她的声音在周围的嗡嗡声中从很远的地方回响。

But the voice is hers, and beneath her voice, beneath the tidal whoosh of static and hiss, the gurgling and crying of a baby can be heard.

但这声音是她的,在她的声音之下,在静电和嘶嘶声的潮汐声之下,可以听到婴儿的咯咯声和哭声。

In any case, if you bring a lunch, put a little something extra in it for Barry Hacker.

无论如何,如果你带了午餐,请为巴里·哈克(Barry Hacker)多放一些东西。

We have four Barry's in the office.

我们办公室里有四个巴里。

Isn't that a coincidence?

这不是巧合吗?

This is the custodian's closet.

这是管理员的衣柜。

You have no business to be in the custodian's closet.

你没有权利待在保管人的柜子里。

Kevin Howard sits in that cubicle over there.

凯文·霍华德坐在那边的小隔间里。

He is a serial killer, the one they call the Carpet Cutter, responsible for the mutilations across town.

他是一名连环杀手,被人们称为“地毯杀手”,对整个城镇的残害负责。

We're not supposed to know that, so do not let on.

我们不应该知道这一点,所以不要泄露出去。

Don't worry.

不用担心。

His compulsion inflicts itself only upon strangers, and the routine established is elaborate and unwavering.

他的强迫症只发生在陌生人身上,而且他制定的惯例是精心设计且坚定不移的。

The victim must be a white male, a young adult no older than 30, heavyset with dark hair and eyes and the like.

受害者必须是一名白人男性,年龄不超过30岁的年轻人,身材魁梧,深色头发和眼睛等。

The victim must be chosen at random, before sunset, from a public place.

受害者必须在日落之前从公共场所随机选择。

The victim is followed home and must put up a struggle, et cetera.

受害者被跟踪回家,必须进行斗争等等。

Kevin Howard does not let any of this interfere with his work.

凯文·霍华德不会让这些干扰他的工作。

He is, in fact, our fastest typist.

事实上,他是我们最快的打字员。

He types as if he were on fire.

他打字的时候就像着了火一样。

In any case, when Kevin Howard gets caught, act surprised.

无论如何,当凯文·霍华德被抓住时,要表现得感到惊讶。

Say that he seemed like a nice person, a bit of a loner perhaps, but always quiet and polite.

说他看起来是一个好人,也许有点孤独,但总是安静而有礼貌。

This is the photocopier room, and this, this is our view.

这是复印室,这是,这是我们的景色。

It faces southwest.

它面向西南。

Enjoy this year while photocopying.

一边复印一边享受这一年。

If you have any problems with the photocopier, see Russell Nash.

如果您对复印机有任何疑问,请咨询 Russell Nash。

If you have any questions, ask your supervisor.

如果您有任何疑问,请询问您的主管。

If you can't find your supervisor, ask Philip Squires.

如果您找不到您的主管,请询问 Philip Squires。

He sits over there.

他坐在那边。

He'll check with Clarissa Nix.

他将与克拉丽莎·尼克斯核实。

She sits there.

她坐在那里。

If you can't find them, feel free to ask for me.

如果您找不到它们,请随时来找我。

This is my cubicle.

这是我的小隔间。

I sit in there.

我坐在那儿。

Daniel Orozco's story, "Orientation," appears in Best American Short Stories , 1995.

丹尼尔·奥罗斯科 (Daniel Orozco) 的故事《定向》出现在 1995 年最佳美国短篇小说奖中。

At the time it was published, he was making his living as a temp in Seattle, Washington.

该书出版时,他正在华盛顿州西雅图做临时工谋生。

This story was read by actor Matt Malloy.

这个故事是由演员马特·马洛伊读的。

Well, our program was produced today by Alix Spiegel and myself, with Peter Clowney, Nancy Updike and Amy Takahara.

嗯,我们今天的节目是由我和阿利克斯·斯皮格尔、彼得·克劳尼、南希·厄普代克和艾米·高原共同制作的。

Contributing editors for this show, Paul Tough, Sarah Vowell, Jack Hitt and Margie Rockland.

本节目的特约编辑包括 Paul Tough、Sarah Vowell、Jack Hitt 和 Margie Rockland。

[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] Our website, www.thisamericanlife.org, where you can listen to our programs for absolutely free or buy tapes.

[鸣谢] 我们的网站 www.thisamericanlife.org,您可以在其中完全免费收听我们的节目或购买磁带。

Or you know you can download audio of our program at audible.com/thisamericanlife, where they have public radio programs, bestselling books, even The New York Times all at audible.com.

或者您知道您可以在 audible.com/thisamericanlife 下载我们节目的音频,那里有公共广播节目、畅销书,甚至纽约时报都在 audible.com 上。

This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.

《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。

[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Torey Malatia, who we love despite his flaws.

[资金来源] WBEZ 管理由托里·马拉蒂亚 (Torey Malatia) 监督,尽管他有缺点,但我们还是很喜欢他。

He is a serial killer, the one they call the Carpet Cutter, responsible for the mutilations across town.

他是一名连环杀手,被人们称为“地毯杀手”,对整个城镇的残害负责。

I'm Ira Glass.

我是艾拉·格拉斯。

Back next week with more stories of This American Life.

下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。

This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.

《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作,并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。

中文为机器翻译,仅供参考。