33: A Night at the Wiener Circle - This American Life
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Prologue Ira Glass Hi.
序言 艾拉·格拉斯 你好。
It's Ira, recording this in 2006.
我是 Ira，于 2006 年录制了这段视频。
This episode of our show, Episode 33, is one that actually never was broadcast nationally.
我们节目的这一集，即第 33 集，实际上从未在全国播出过。
We did a local broadcast of it in Chicago and always intended to go back to it and make it into a national version and never did.
我们在芝加哥对它进行了本地广播，一直想回去制作它并将其制作成全国版本，但从未实现。
In fact, we don't even have a master copy of it, a digital recording of it.
事实上，我们甚至没有它的母版，即它的数字录音。
And what you're about to hear is actually from a cassette we have of the show, which is the only copy we can find.
你将要听到的内容实际上来自我们拥有的该节目的录音带，这是我们能找到的唯一副本。
Anyway, here we go.
无论如何，我们开始吧。
I don't remember when I first wandered into The Wieners Circle.
我不记得我第一次走进维纳圈是什么时候。
I'm sure it was after midnight.
我确信那是午夜过后。
I'm sure that, as always, the place was mobbed.
我确信这个地方一如既往地被围攻。
I'm sure that, as always, people were screaming.
我确信，一如既往，人们在尖叫。
I need a veggie burger!
我需要一个素食汉堡！
Customer 2 Lady?
顾客2女士？
Lady!
女士！
Veggie burger, double cheeseburger and a fry.
素食汉堡、双层芝士汉堡和薯条。
Char burger!
查尔汉堡！
Ira Glass The front of the hot dog stand is filled with a swarm of people.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass） 热狗摊前挤满了人。
When I first went, it was a weird mix of cops-- there was a lot of cops there-- drunk yuppie 20-somethings, working class people who work in the neighborhood.
当我第一次去的时候，那里有一群奇怪的警察——那里有很多警察——20多岁的喝醉酒的雅皮士，在附近工作的工人阶级。
But what really got to me was the staff.
但真正让我感动的是这里的员工。
There's one of these windows you can look through, they ask for your order through.
您可以通过其中一个窗口查看，他们会要求您通过该窗口订购。
And they're in a space so small you could not park a car back there.
而且它们所在的空间太小了，你无法在那里停放汽车。
And it's hot.
而且很热。
You can tell it's hot.
你可以说它很热。
There are deep fryers and grills pouring off heat.
有油炸锅和烤架，散发着热量。
There's hot grease everywhere.
到处都是滚烫的油脂。
And they are constantly bumping into each other, getting into each other's way.
他们不断地互相碰撞，妨碍彼此。
And all of them, all of them are screaming nonstop.
他们所有人，所有人都在尖叫不停。
It's a kind of work environment that makes you wonder only one thing.
这是一种让你只想知道一件事的工作环境。
Why don't these people want to kill each other?
为什么这些人不想互相残杀呢？
I don't know.
我不知道。
What in the [BLEEP] did you order?
您在 [BLEEP] 中点了什么？
That's all I'm asking.
这就是我要问的。
$2.30.
2.30 美元。
That's all.
就这样。
Very easy.
很容易。
Now we'll get along.
现在我们就和睦相处吧。
Now you can talk to me.
现在你可以跟我说话了。
[BLEEP]
[哔]
But if you watch the workers at The Wieners Circle a little while more, you realize something else.
但如果你多观察一下维纳圆环的工作人员，你就会意识到一些不同的事情。
They actually seem kind of happy.
他们实际上看起来有点高兴。
They're getting along.
他们相处得很融洽。
They kind of love each other.
他们有点相爱。
They joke around.
他们开玩笑。
I thought, whoever manages this place really knows how to run a restaurant.
我想，无论谁经营这个地方，他都真正懂得如何经营一家餐厅。
I mean, they're taking a job that seems like one of the hardest, most grinding physically and psychologically, on your feet all day, yelling backwards and forwards, and somehow they have turned it into a job that the people there actually seem to kind of like.
我的意思是，他们从事的工作似乎是最艰苦、最折磨身体和心理的工作之一，整天站着，来回大喊大叫，不知何故，他们把它变成了那里的人们实际上似乎喜欢的工作。
I have more respect for this job than I can say almost any job that I've ever had.
我对这份工作的尊重几乎超过了我曾经从事过的任何工作。
And I've had a lot of jobs.
而且我做过很多工作。
You want to be here.
你想在这里。
It's like you're not working for money.
就好像你工作不是为了钱一样。
You want to be here for real.
你想真正来到这里。
Well, from WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
嗯，来自 WBEZ 芝加哥，这是《This American Life》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today on our program, a night at The Wieners Circle.
今天我们的节目是在维纳圆环 (The Wieners Circle) 度过一个夜晚。
I was there from 9:00 at night until dawn a couple Saturday nights ago.
几个周六的晚上，我从晚上 9:00 一直待到黎明。
I saw hundreds of screaming drunks.
我看到数百个尖叫的醉汉。
A guy walked in who'd been carrying a statue of Zeus from one bar to the next.
一个人走进来，他把宙斯的雕像从一个酒吧搬到另一个酒吧。
I saw a couple meet and flirt and get together.
我看到一对情侣见面、调情、聚在一起。
The staff cursed out the patrons.
工作人员咒骂顾客。
They cursed, sang them songs.
他们咒骂，唱歌。
Sometimes they sang them songs, mysteriously I should say, in Hebrew.
有时他们会用希伯来语唱歌曲，我应该说很神秘。
What else happened?
还发生了什么？
A man exposed himself to the women behind the counter.
一名男子将自己暴露在柜台后面的女人们面前。
At their request.
应他们的要求。
And at the end of the evening, everybody agreed, for them, it had been a quiet night.
到了晚上，每个人都同意，对他们来说，这是一个安静的夜晚。
Each week on our show, of course, we invite a variety of writers and performers.
当然，每周我们的节目都会邀请各种各样的作家和表演者。
And this week, our contributors gave us stories about working in the lovely food service industry, about fast food places, about meat.
本周，我们的撰稿人为我们讲述了在可爱的食品服务行业工作、快餐店和肉类的故事。
Anyway, stay with us.
无论如何，留在我们身边吧。
So let us go back now.
那么让我们现在回去吧。
I guess an elegant sound transition would've been a good idea there, but whatever.
我想优雅的声音过渡是个好主意，但无论如何。
Let us go back now in time to a Saturday night.
现在让我们回到星期六晚上。
It is time to meet our cast of characters.
是时候认识一下我们的角色了。
There are Larry and Barry, the owners of The Wieners Circle.
拉里和巴里是维纳圈的老板。
Larry's a 50-year-old man in Spandex pants when he works Saturday nights.
拉里 (Larry) 是一位 50 岁的男子，周六晚上上班时穿着氨纶裤子。
He lives in the high-rise across the street from The Wieners Circle.
他住在维纳圆环街对面的高层建筑里。
That's on Clark Street, by the way, between Fullerton and Diversey.
顺便说一句，那是在克拉克街，在富勒顿和泰华西之间。
Larry lives on the lowest floor so he can see in.
拉里住在最低层，所以他可以看到里面。
Barry is 41.
巴里 41 岁。
Shot up from 180 pounds to 300 since they bought The Wieners Circle, from eating the mistakes, he says.
他说，自从他们买下 The Wieners Circle 以来，由于犯了错误，体重从 180 磅猛增到 300 磅。
In the last two years, he's lost 100 of those pounds.
在过去的两年里，他减掉了 100 磅。
And sitting on the picnic tables in front of the hot dog stand, they laugh about all the excuses that employees used to get out of work or show up late over the course of years.
他们坐在热狗摊前的野餐桌上，嘲笑员工多年来用来失业或迟到的所有借口。
And they're talking about this when right at that moment, their night shift grill man walks up.
就在他们正在谈论这件事的时候，他们的夜班烧烤工走了过来。
Here comes one of our employees who was supposed to be in at 8:00.
我们的一位员工来了，他本来应该在 8:00 上班。
He's moseying in like nothing ever happened.
他慢悠悠地进来，就像什么都没发生过一样。
You're about to hear one of the excuses.
你即将听到其中一个借口。
This is Tony.
这是托尼.
Tell him why you were supposed to be here at 8:00 and you're here at 10:00.
告诉他为什么你应该在 8:00 到达这里，而你却在 10:00 到达这里。
See?
看？
That was one of the excuses.
这是借口之一。
That's an old one.
那是旧的了。
Thank you anyways, Tony.
不管怎样，谢谢你，托尼。
He doesn't even own a car.
他甚至没有汽车。
Barry Nemerow Yeah, so that was--
巴里·内梅罗 是的，所以那是——
The bus.
公共汽车。
Barry Nemerow The bus had the flat tire, I think.
巴里·内梅罗 (Barry Nemerow) 我认为公共汽车轮胎漏气了。
As you can see, we're not uptight about it.
正如你所看到的，我们对此并不紧张。
These guys are like the Car Guys, you know?
这些人就像汽车人，你知道吗？
I don't know if you're getting much sense of this.
不知道你是否已经明白了这一点。
When they first opened The Wieners Circle 15 years ago, this is the sort of thing, showing up late, that they would fire people for.
15 年前，当他们第一次开设 The Wieners Circle 时，如果出现迟到的情况，他们就会解雇员工。
But they realized over time that it takes so long to train somebody that it just was not worth it for them to hire somebody new who then would have exactly the same number of late days and excuses and all that.
但随着时间的推移，他们意识到，培训一个人需要很长时间，因此他们不值得雇用新人，因为这样一来，新人就会有同样多的迟到天数和借口等等。
So they have mellowed.
所以他们已经软化了。
They have mellowed over the years.
这些年来他们已经变得成熟了。
And they view that as basically their experience, they told me.
他们告诉我，他们认为这基本上是他们的经验。
On the Saturday night shift, there's also Vicky who is married to Barry, but refuses to work the same shift as Barry does.
在周六夜班，还有与巴里结婚的维姬，但她拒绝与巴里同班。
There's Noni on fries, Tony on the grill, Patricia and Freddie at the counter with Coffee.
薯条上有诺丽果，烤架上有托尼，柜台上有帕特里夏和弗雷迪，还有咖啡。
Coffee is a person, by the way.
顺便说一句，咖啡是一个人。
Coffee is a person whose real name is Pat, but she insists on Coffee because, as she will be the first to tell you--
咖啡是一个真名叫帕特的人，但她坚持喝咖啡，因为她将第一个告诉你——
Because I grind so fine.
因为我磨得太细了。
Larry Gold She's the backbone.
拉里·戈尔德 她是支柱。
Everybody asks for--
每个人都要求——
You'll see her at her best, though, after midnight.
不过，午夜之后你会看到她最美的样子。
After midnight, baby.
午夜过后，宝贝。
I'm good after midnight.
半夜过后我就好了。
It is Coffee who sticks her long tongue out at men, on request and not.
是咖啡向男人伸出长舌头，无论是应要求还是不要求。
It is Coffee who can get the last word with any customer.
咖啡对任何顾客都有最后的决定权。
It is Coffee, by the way, who accidentally cursed out Laurence Fishburne this week in the restaurant, not realizing who he was.
顺便说一句，咖啡本周在餐厅里无意中咒骂了劳伦斯·菲什伯恩，但没有意识到他是谁。
The night I was there, a guy walked in at one point early in the night and says to Coffee and Patricia, who are standing behind the counter, "You work here?" And, of course, it's Coffee who says--
我在那里的那天晚上，一个人在深夜的某个时候走进来，对站在柜台后面的咖啡和帕特里夏说：“你们在这里工作吗？”当然，咖啡说——
Do you work here?
你在这里工作吗？
Coffee [BLEEP] no. We're just standing back here for decoration.
咖啡[哔]没有。我们只是站在后面做装饰。
What the [BLEEP] you thought?
你觉得[BLEEP]怎么样？
We just standing here because we like it.
我们站在这里只是因为我们喜欢它。
The guy sputters.
那家伙语无伦次。
Newcomers to The Wieners Circle late at night usually are not prepared for what they get.
深夜来到维纳圈的新人通常对他们所得到的东西没有做好准备。
Regulars, on the other hand, come in all night and try to get the last word on Coffee and on everybody else.
另一方面，常客则整夜进来，试图了解咖啡和其他人的最新消息。
But especially on Coffee.
但尤其是咖啡。
Coffee's like-- you know those old Westerns where there's the gunslinger who's the top gun?
咖啡就像——你知道那些老西部片里的枪手是顶级枪手吗？
That's Coffee.
那是咖啡。
And that's the problem with being the top gun, if you remember your John Wayne movies.
如果你还记得约翰·韦恩的电影，这就是成为顶级枪手的问题。
That's the problem with being the top gun.
这就是成为顶级枪手的问题。
There's always somebody who thinks he's just a little quicker.
总有人认为他只是快了一点。
Being top gun.
成为顶级枪手。
And that's exactly what it is, being top gun.
这正是它的本质，成为顶级枪手。
If they can score, if they can score on me, then that's the whole thing.
如果他们能得分，如果他们能在我身上得分，那就是全部了。
I mean, I feel like when I'll be here, I'm as famous as Michael Jordan, Dennis Rodman.
我的意思是，我觉得当我来到这里时，我会和迈克尔·乔丹、丹尼斯·罗德曼一样出名。
Don't [BLEEP] with her!
不要和她一起[哔哔]！
Don't [BLEEP] with her.
不要对她[发出哔哔声]。
[BLEEP] you, midget.
[哔]你，侏儒。
I have so much charming tape of them yelling at each other, like hours and hours of it.
我有很多他们互相大喊大叫的迷人录音带，持续了好几个小时。
Coffee has four kids.
咖啡有四个孩子。
The older ones have seen her cursing at The Wieners Circle and were shocked at first, she says.
她说，年长的孩子们看到她在维纳圈子里咒骂，一开始很震惊。
But then they understood that's just how she is at work.
但后来他们明白这就是她的工作方式。
And she does have another job, she told me.
她告诉我，她确实还有另一份工作。
I teach preschoolers, believe it or not.
不管你信不信，我教学龄前儿童。
Over the course of a Saturday night these days, The Weiners Circle is mostly filled with yuppies, yuppie 20-somethings, seriously drunk.
这些天的周六晚上，韦纳圈子里大多都是雅皮士，20 多岁的雅皮士，喝得酩酊大醉。
It is not an attractive sight.
这可不是什么吸引人的景象。
The women behind the counter call each other and themselves "bitch" mostly, as in--
柜台后面的女人们大多互相称呼对方和自己为“婊子”，比如——
Tell the black bitch as many times as she needs to know.
告诉那个黑人母狗多少次她需要知道的事情。
There are not many settings in our mostly segregated city of Chicago where you can see a room of mostly white jock-like boys screaming insults, yelling bitch at women, sometimes actually throwing money, literally throwing dollar bills at a group of mostly non-white women and men.
在我们这个基本上实行种族隔离的城市芝加哥，你可以看到一个房间里大部分都是白人运动员般的男孩，他们尖叫着侮辱，对着女人大喊“贱人”，有时甚至真的扔钱，简直就是向一群主要是非白人的男女扔美元钞票。
Coming to The Wieners Circle drunk, they have license to talk and act like they talk and act nowhere else.
喝醉了来到维纳圈，他们就可以像在其他地方一样说话和做事。
But when I ask Coffee about it, she says that she doesn't see any big racial edge to what goes on at her job.
但当我向咖啡询问此事时，她说她认为她的工作中没有任何重大的种族优势。
She likes most of her customers.
她喜欢她的大多数顾客。
She truly likes them.
她真的很喜欢它们。
And she says they don't go over the line.
她说他们不会越界。
She tells me this story about a white South African who came in and misinterpreted the license that was happening inside The Wieners Circle.
她给我讲了一个关于一名南非白人的故事，他进来并误解了维纳圈内发生的许可证。
And he said to me, he said, "You black ass nigger.
他对我说，“你这个黑屁股。
You don't talk like that to me.
你别这样对我说话。
Do you know who I am?" And at first, when he first said it, OK, I was laughing it off.
你知道我是谁吗？”起初，当他第一次说这句话时，好吧，我只是一笑置之。
Because I always laugh it off.
因为我总是一笑置之。
Like, if somebody say, "Hey, you black bitch," I say, "Thank you." Or "You a dirty--" I say, "Thank you." So I thought he was playing at first, until he said something that one of the customers knew that he was actually being prejudiced about.
就像，如果有人说，“嘿，你这个黑婊子，”我说，“谢谢你。”或者“你这个肮脏的——”我说，“谢谢你。”所以我一开始以为他是在玩，直到他说了一些话，其中一位顾客知道他实际上受到了偏见。
And what happened was two of the other white guys that usually come in jumped onto him and started to fight him.
发生的事情是另外两个通常进来的白人跳到他身上并开始与他打斗。
When they take their breaks, The Wieners Circle staff seem to actually like each other.
当 Wieners Circle 的工作人员休息时，他们似乎真的很喜欢彼此。
At one point, I was talking to Vicky and Coffee.
有一次，我正在与维姬和咖啡交谈。
And as Coffee was talking, Vicky gently reached over and wiped some mustard off of Coffee's cheek.
当咖啡说话的时候，维姬轻轻地伸手擦掉咖啡脸颊上的芥末。
Friday and Saturday nights from midnight until 4:00, working The Wieners Circle has the intensity of working in an emergency room.
周五和周六晚上从午夜到 4:00，The Wieners Circle 的工作强度就像在急诊室一样。
Except, of course, it's about hot dogs.
当然，除了热狗。
And The Wieners Circle staff has bonded the way that emergency room staffs bond.
The Wieners Circle 的工作人员也采用了急诊室工作人员的联系方式。
And at dawn, after screaming at each other all night long, I mean, it sounds really corny to say it, but they are really affectionate with each other.
黎明时分，在彼此尖叫了一整夜之后，我的意思是，这听起来很老套，但他们彼此之间真的很深情。
They have no anger left over.
他们已经没有愤怒了。
If you ask the customers why they come here, most of them say it is the food and the employees.
如果你问顾客为什么来这里，大多数人都会说是食物和员工。
Or as one man put it, very concisely I thought, "It's dinner and a show." And some of the staff view it as a show also.
或者正如一个人所说的那样，我非常简洁地想：“这是晚餐和表演。”一些工作人员也将其视为一场表演。
And they say that if they weren't putting on a show, this would just be another food service job.
他们说，如果他们不进行表演，这将只是另一份餐饮服务工作。
Freddy, for example, said that he has worked the days at The Wieners Circle.
例如，弗雷迪说他曾在维纳斯圈工作过。
And during the day, there's none of this acting up.
而在白天，这些都不会发生。
There's none of the screaming.
没有任何尖叫声。
It is a normal hot dog stand that you can take your kids to.
这是一个普通的热狗摊，你可以带你的孩子去。
And Freddy said it's hard to bear.
弗雷迪说这很难忍受。
The hours drag by.
时间一分一秒地过去了。
It is not much fun at all.
这一点也不好玩。
It's like, you'll say, please, thank you, have a nice day, and all that.
就像，你会说，拜托，谢谢，祝你有美好的一天，等等。
And during the night, it's a bunch of drunks.
到了晚上，这里都是一群醉汉。
And it's like playing all night, playing all night.
就好像玩了一整夜，玩了一整夜。
And so if you couldn't scream, it would just be another job.
所以如果你不能尖叫，那就只是另一份工作。
Absolutely.
绝对地。
Ira Glass Now, I have something to confess to you, my beloved radio listeners.
艾拉·格拉斯 现在，我有件事要向你们坦白，我亲爱的广播听众。
Though I have really amazing tape of other things which happened that night at The Wieners Circle, tape of Vicky and Patricia and Larry and the staff.
不过，我还有那晚在维纳斯圆环发生的其他事情的录音带，里面有维琪、帕特里夏、拉里和工作人员的录音带，真是太棒了。
And then some of the customers who really had some stories to tell, I have to say.
我不得不说，有些顾客确实有一些故事要讲。
Including-- this is a hot dog stand, oddly, haunted by David Schwimmer, for reasons I can't even begin to imagine.
包括——这是一个热狗摊，奇怪的是，大卫·休默（David Schwimmer）经常出没，原因我什至无法想象。
There's also just stuff which happened, and without going into details, I will just say that those parts of the story did not get completed for tonight's show but will be completed, not for this coming Saturday, when we're talking about the Democrats, but the Saturday after that.
还有一些发生的事情，无需详细说明，我只想说，故事的这些部分在今晚的节目中尚未完成，但将会完成，不是在即将到来的星期六，当我们谈论民主党时，而是在那之后的星期六。
You can hear this and more, more, more, a much more vivid little story.
你可以听到这个，还有更多、更多、更多、更生动的小故事。
So listen to our little show for that, OK?
那么请听我们的小节目，好吗？
Because there's a lot more to say about The Wieners Circle than I'm saying right now.
因为关于维纳圈子，我现在要说的还有很多。
And I want to share it with you.
我想与大家分享。
[MUSIC - "HOT DOG" BY CHRIS POWELL]
[音乐 - 克里斯·鲍威尔的《热狗》]
Act Two, The Customer.
第二幕，顾客。
Well, of course, the relationship between staff and customers at The Wieners Circle is not your typical relationship between restaurant staff and restaurant worker.
当然，The Wieners Circle 的员工和顾客之间的关系并不是典型的餐厅员工和餐厅工作人员之间的关系。
And for a more typical story, we turn to Beau O'Reilly, who not only is a playwright and a frequent contributor to our show, but he actually works at a restaurant, has worked at many restaurants, and has this story of a possibly recognizable restaurant in our possibly recognizable Chicagoland area.
对于一个更典型的故事，我们求助于博·奥莱利（Beau O'Reilly），他不仅是一位剧作家，也是我们节目的经常撰稿人，而且他实际上在一家餐厅工作，曾在许多餐厅工作过，并且有一个关于我们可能认出的芝加哥地区的一家可能认出的餐厅的故事。
In our restaurant, restaurant workers give out new names to favorite customers or-- and this is a much bigger category-- favorite customers to hate and be bugged by.
在我们的餐厅里，餐厅工作人员给最喜欢的顾客起了新名字，或者——这是一个更大的类别——最喜欢的顾客讨厌和被骚扰的名字。
And the names usually come from restaurant habits-- 5:00 Window Seat Lady, Mr. Saturday Night, Two Ashtray Al-- or more potently and likely to stick forever, favorite food orders.
这些名字通常来自餐馆的习惯——5:00 Window Seat Lady、Mr. Saturday Night、Two Ashtray Al——或者更有力、可能永远坚持下去的最喜欢的食物订单。
The Scone Man always has one, a scone, and it's always well done.
烤饼人总是有一个烤饼，而且总是做得很好。
He's a favorite with a spot on the restaurant worker's heart because of his consistency.
由于他的稳定性，他深受餐厅员工的喜爱。
The Is There Wheat In This Lady who always brings a shudder of annoyance so deep that the restaurant worker feels he must be suffering a stroke or a brain aneurysm.
这位女士身上有小麦吗？她总是让人感到烦恼得不寒而栗，以至于餐馆工作人员觉得自己一定是中风了，或者是脑动脉瘤了。
"Is there wheat in this?
“这里面有小麦吗？
What about the soup?
汤呢？
Is there wheat in it?
里面有小麦吗？
The lasagna, is there wheat in it?
烤宽面条，里面有小麦吗？
The bread, is there wheat it it?
这个面包，有麦子吗？
I can't have wheat.
我不能吃小麦。
Can I have half a bowl?
我可以吃半碗吗？
Not the medium bowl, a tiny bowl.
不是中碗，是小碗。
Can I have it to go?
我可以把它带走吗？
I can't eat it here.
我这里吃不到。
Can you double wrap it?
可以双包吗？
Can you heat it on the stove?
可以放在炉子上加热吗？
I can't have it microwaved.
我不能用微波炉加热。
I can't have microwaves.
我没有微波炉。
Can I have some water while I wait?
等待期间可以喝点水吗？
Is there wheat in this water?" The restaurant worker has been known to lock the door when he sees the Is There Wheat In This Lady coming.
这水里有小麦吗？”众所周知，当餐厅工作人员看到这位女士过来时，他会锁上门。
The Mustard Man is more deserving of pity, and the restaurant worker is aware of this.
芥末人更值得怜悯，餐厅工作人员也意识到了这一点。
The Mustard Man is a limo driver who has gone legally blind, and he's probably harmless when he's not behind the wheel.
芥末人是一名合法盲人的豪华轿车司机，当他不在方向盘后面时，他可能是无害的。
He's pursuing a new line of work now, but like a middle-aged fat man pursuing a spot on the Olympic decathlon team, a new line of work may be outside his reach.
他现在正在追求新的工作，但就像一个中年胖子追求奥运会十项全能代表队的位置一样，新的工作可能超出了他的能力范围。
The Mustard Man studies podiatry at the foot school across the street from where the restaurant worker works.
芥末男在餐厅工作人员工作地点对面的足部学校学习足病学。
The Mustard Man is a near member of that school's graduating class for the seventh time.
芥末人第七次成为该学校毕业班的成员。
Before The Mustard Man became The Mustard Man, he was that guy from the school who offers to rub your feet, especially if your feet were lovely and your gams were shapely.
在“芥末男”成为“芥末男”之前，他是学校里那个愿意为你揉脚的人，特别是如果你的脚很漂亮而且你的脚很匀称的话。
He would offer to work on your foot without batting an eye, as if he were asking you to pass the ketchup.
他会连眼睛都不眨地主动帮你修脚，就好像他在请你递番茄酱一样。
And his food orders were almost normal back then.
而当时他的点餐也几乎是正常的。
Almost normal, but broken up and oddly shaped.
几乎正常，但破碎且形状奇怪。
Soup, soup must be served first, but soup always served cold until the restaurant worker anticipated it being served that way, and then he, The Mustard Man, would send it back with the instructions to nuke it until boiling.
汤，汤必须先上，但汤总是冷的，直到餐厅工作人员预料到会这样上，然后他，芥末人，会把它寄回来，并附上说明，用核武器将其煮沸。
And when that soup was bubbling like a lava flow out of Mount Vesuvius, The Mustard Man would dump ice into it just to cool it back down.
当汤像维苏威火山的熔岩流一样冒泡时，芥末人会把冰倒入其中，只是为了让它冷却下来。
Desserts were worried over with hopes that the dessert at least would be included for free, forks exchanged randomly for extra spoons, knives sent back to the dishwasher, extra napkins, extra bread, extra, extra, extra.
甜点很担心，希望甜点至少是免费的，叉子随机换成额外的勺子，刀子送回洗碗机，额外的餐巾，额外的面包，额外，额外，额外。
And every little variation of the dinner order was announced with an increased urgency that pretended towards the matter of fact.
晚餐订单的每一个微小变化都以一种越来越紧迫的态度宣布，假装是针对事实的。
The Mustard Man's ordering technique seemed designed to ask the restaurant worker to pay attention to him as many times as possible.
芥末男的点餐技巧似乎是为了让餐厅工作人员尽可能多地关注他。
And the longer The Mustard Man came to the restaurant, gradually he increased his visits from once a week to three or four times a week.
而芥末人来餐厅的时间越长，渐渐地他的光顾次数从每周一次增加到每周三四次。
The more the restaurant worker's trips to The Mustard Man's tables had to be increased, the restaurant worker took on a permanent look of vexation and rage that only The Mustard Man seemed not to notice.
餐厅工作人员到芥末人餐桌上的次数越多，餐厅工作人员就会永远表现出烦恼和愤怒的表情，只有芥末人似乎没有注意到。
Other customers, they withered from that look.
其他顾客则因这种表情而萎靡不振。
Their bold orders for whole meals were reduced to weak pleas for cups of tea and mumbled requests to use the phone.
他们大胆的全餐点餐变成了微弱的茶水请求和使用电话的含糊请求。
The idea of putting even one more straw on this restaurant worker's back by ordering real food was too much for these sensitive souls.
对于这些敏感的灵魂来说，通过点真正的食物来给这位餐厅工作人员再添一根稻草的想法实在是太难以接受了。
But not The Mustard Man.
但芥末人不是。
The Mustard Man continued his barrage.
芥末人继续他的弹幕。
More water, warm not hot.
多喝点水，温水不烫手。
Fresh oregano.
新鲜牛至。
Mint toothpicks.
薄荷牙签。
Fresh bowls.
新鲜的碗。
As the weeks went on, The Mustard Man seemed to settle in, and he began to feel at home.
几周过去了，芥末人似乎已经适应了，他开始有宾至如归的感觉。
He started table hopping.
他开始跳桌。
And usually, the other tables, they were filled with other near-graduates of the podiatry school, most of whom learned the mysteries of the human foot in a short one or two years.
通常，其他桌子上都坐满了足病学校的其他毕业生，他们中的大多数人在短短的一两年内就了解了人脚的奥秘。
And in our restaurant, The Mustard Man's table hopping, that was not acceptable.
在我们的餐厅，芥末男的跳桌行为是不可接受的。
The students would cringe with disapproval as he approached them, declaiming the science of feet in a loud voice and manically grabbing at any unprotected Birkenstocks in a compulsive need to work on your foot, work on your foot.
当他走近学生们时，学生们会因不满而畏缩，大声宣扬足部科学，并疯狂地抓住任何未受保护的勃肯鞋，强迫性地需要用脚工作，用脚工作。
But The Mustard Man was crafty.
但芥末人很狡猾。
He would rotate his table hopping so no one student group had too much cause to complain.
他会轮流跳桌，这样就没有哪个学生团体有太多的理由抱怨。
The restaurant worker's annoyance was growing.
餐馆工作人员的烦恼与日俱增。
Indeed, it had passed rage now, and it had moved into a gibbering, idiot hatred that worked on his brain.
事实上，现在它已经不再是愤怒，而是变成了一种喋喋不休的、白痴般的仇恨，在他的大脑中起作用。
That's the thing about restaurants, working in restaurants.
这就是餐馆、在餐馆工作的情况。
The workers hate the customers.
工人们讨厌顾客。
It's an unnatural relationship.
这是一种不自然的关系。
You're there to serve them.
你在那里为他们服务。
Why should you serve them?
你为什么要为他们服务？
Until one day, The Mustard Man met the restaurant worker at the door as the restaurant worker was opening our restaurant for the evening.
直到有一天，芥末男在门口遇见了餐厅工作人员，当时餐厅工作人员正在为我们的餐厅开门营业。
And he seemed particularly happy, The Mustard Man, reciting the entire menu aloud as the restaurant worker busied himself making coffee in a feeble attempt to ignore The Mustard Man.
他似乎特别高兴，芥末人，大声背诵整个菜单，而餐厅工作人员忙着煮咖啡，微弱地试图忽视芥末人。
The door opens, and in walks a potential performer.
门打开了，一位潜在的表演者走了进来。
Now, his voice is just quivering with excitement at the possibility of using the place for avant garde karaoke or contact wild turkey improvisation parties, something.
现在，他的声音因兴奋而颤抖，因为他有可能利用这个地方进行前卫卡拉 OK 或参加野火鸡即兴派对等活动。
His eyes speak of wild parties, wild turkey and more.
他的眼睛里充满了狂野的派对、野火鸡等等。
His voice gets loud and rapid firing questions.
他的声音很大，并且快速地提出问题。
And the restaurant worker puts him off, insisting on an appointment at a later date, a demo tape, a blueprint proposal, at another time.
餐厅工作人员却拒绝了他，坚持要求稍后预约，并在另一个时间提供演示磁带、蓝图提案。
Right now, the restaurant worker, he's running a pot of coffee.
现在，餐厅工作人员正在煮一壶咖啡。
And that coffee requires a lot of attention.
咖啡需要很多关注。
And The Mustard Man, he jumps up to help.
还有芥末人，他跳起来帮忙。
He's taking the potential performer on a tour of the restaurant worker's restaurant, our restaurant.
他正在带这位潜在的表演者参观餐厅工人的餐厅，也就是我们的餐厅。
The lovely stage and the handsome tablecloths and the cheerful crockery.
可爱的舞台、漂亮的桌布和令人愉悦的陶器。
And the two of them are constructing a loud Tower of Babel that has the restaurant worker seething now.
他们两人正在建造一座喧闹的巴别塔，这让餐厅工作人员感到愤怒。
And as The Mustard Man finally escorts the potential performer out the door, shouting "We'll get back to you with an offer."
当芥末男最终护送这位潜在的表演者走出门时，他喊道：“我们会给你一个报价。”
"An offer of what?" fumes the restaurant worker.
“什么提议？”餐厅工作人员很生气。
The Mustard Man gives the potential performer one last longing look, glancing down at the potential performer's wingtips and wondering about the feet that they might hold.
芥末人给了潜在表演者最后一次渴望的目光，低头看了一眼潜在表演者的翼尖，想知道他们可能会握住什么脚。
And then the restaurant worker lets him have it.
然后餐馆工作人员就让他吃了。
Inappropriate, spew.
不合适，喷。
Boundary issues, spew.
边界问题，喷。
Spew, spew.
喷，喷。
Attention monger, spew.
关注贩子，喷。
Self-involved juvenile, spew, spew.
自恋少年，喷，喷。
Inappropriate, inappropriate, inappropriate behavior, spew!
不当、不当、不当行为，吐！
The restaurant worker, expanding and puffed-up like a porcupine on defense.
餐厅工作人员像一只防御中的豪猪一样膨胀、膨胀。
And The Mustard Man, shrinking and inappropriate now, is backing out the door.
而芥末人，现在退缩了，不合适了，正在退出门外。
The Mustard Man didn't stop coming to our restaurant.
芥末人并没有停止来到我们的餐厅。
He still appeared regularly.
他仍然定期出现。
But now he never sat, he never table-hopped, ordering only bread gobbed with mustard to go.
但现在他不再坐下来，也不再跳桌，只点涂了芥末的面包带走。
He became The Mustard Man.
他成了芥末人。
"Bread with mustard to go, please," in a clear but subdued voice.
“请带走加芥末的面包。”声音清晰但柔和。
And the restaurant worker never spoke personally to him again.
餐厅工作人员再也没有与他私下交谈过。
Things were ice between them, professional, appropriate.
他们之间的关系很冷淡，专业，恰当。
And sometimes The Mustard Man wouldn't even come in.
有时芥末人甚至不进来。
The restaurant worker would look up from strangling a fruit salad or burning a bagel to death and see The Mustard Man, his face pressed against the restaurant window like the restaurant was a new pair of Converse high-tops and the restaurant worker a wondrous pair of feet The Mustard Man would love to get his hands on.
餐厅工作人员在掐死水果沙拉或烧死百吉饼后抬起头，会看到芥末人，他的脸贴在餐厅窗户上，就像餐厅是一双新的匡威高帮鞋一样，餐厅工作人员有一双奇妙的脚，芥末人很想把手放在手里。
And the restaurant worker thought The Mustard Man looked particularly bad with his face pressed against the window like that.
而餐馆工作人员觉得芥末男把脸贴在窗户上的样子特别难看。
Beau O'Reilly's running the Rhino Fest and he works at The Lunar Cabaret restaurant.
Beau O'Reilly 负责举办犀牛节，他在 Lunar Cabaret 餐厅工作。
Coming up on our program-- coming up, what is coming up?
即将推出我们的节目——即将推出，即将推出什么？
Coming up, hot dogs as metaphor for all politics in the city of Chicago and ever so much more as our little food program continues.
接下来，热狗将成为芝加哥市所有政治的隐喻，随着我们的小食品计划的继续，热狗的意义也越来越大。
Act Three, A Parable of Politics.
第三幕，政治寓言。
Well, I'm joined now in the studio by one of the public radio reporters here in Chicago, Shirley Jahad.
好吧，现在芝加哥的一位公共广播电台记者雪莉·贾哈德（Shirley Jahad）加入了我的工作室。
Welcome to our studio.
欢迎来到我们的工作室。
Hi there, Ira.
你好，艾拉。
Ira Glass And Shirley, you've agreed to do a little assignment for us, because hot dogs in Chicago are not just food.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）和雪莉（Shirley），你们同意为我们做一些小任务，因为芝加哥的热狗不仅仅是食物。
They are a lens through which we can see the workings of our great city.
它们是我们观察这座伟大城市运作的一面镜子。
And I know that you have a story here of a company that did everything it was supposed to, here in the city that works, to grease the skids and see that things went well, and ran into some trouble and finally-- well, we'll say whether they prevailed or not as the story proceeds.
我知道这里有一个关于一家公司的故事，它在这座运转良好的城市里做了它应该做的一切，以润滑滑轨并看到事情进展顺利，但遇到了一些麻烦，最后——好吧，我们会随着故事的进展而说他们是否获胜。
But why don't you explain who this company is?
但你为什么不解释一下这家公司是谁呢？
Well, that's right, Ira.
嗯，没错，艾拉。
We're talking about Chicago's own Vienna Beef Hot Dog.
我们谈论的是芝加哥自己的维也纳牛肉热狗。
This is a very established company in the city, been here for more than 100 years.
这是该市一家非常成熟的公司，已有 100 多年的历史。
And like you said, they've done everything right.
正如你所说，他们做的一切都是正确的。
They employ 500 people in the city, they stayed in town when other people went to the suburbs, the head of the company, Jim Bodman, is a good corporate citizen, a contributor to all the right campaigns, including Mayor Daley's campaign, Mayor Richard Daley's campaign.
他们在城里雇用了 500 名员工，当其他人去郊区时，他们留在城里，公司负责人吉姆·博德曼 (Jim Bodman) 是一位优秀的企业公民，是所有正确竞选活动的贡献者，包括戴利市长的竞选活动、理查德·戴利市长的竞选活动。
He gives the maximum amount he can.
他给出了他能给出的最大数额。
Whenever City Hall calls, he says, he responds as much as he can.
他说，每当市政厅打来电话时，他都会尽力回应。
He sends hot dogs to the parks for kids.
他给孩子们送热狗到公园。
He's even contributing hot dogs to the big media party for journalists and delegates coming to the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.
他甚至还为参加芝加哥民主党全国代表大会的记者和代表举办的大型媒体派对提供热狗。
And every year, he contributes to the city's big summer party, the city's best summer festival, The Taste of Chicago.
每年，他都会为这座城市的大型夏季派对、这座城市最好的夏季节日“芝加哥之味”做出贡献。
The city tries to draw in area residents and tourists from all around using this festival.
该市试图利用这个节日吸引来自各地的居民和游客。
And they ask us for money to help them do that.
他们向我们要钱来帮助他们做到这一点。
And we give them money.
我们给他们钱。
And they promise us that all the food that is served there will be our food, and they put our name up.
他们向我们保证，那里提供的所有食物都将是我们的食物，并且他们把我们的名字挂在了上面。
It's a classic example of you scratch my back and I'll scratch your back.
这是一个典型的例子，你给我挠背，我也给你挠背。
Pretty simple, and it works very well.
非常简单，而且效果很好。
Everything's going just as it's supposed to.
一切都按计划进行。
And now at this point, I can pick up the story a little bit.
现在，我可以稍微回顾一下这个故事了。
Because about a year ago, I just happened to be sitting in Jim Bodman's office at the Vienna Beef Sausage Company for reasons too complicated to go into here.
因为大约一年前，我碰巧坐在维也纳牛肉香肠公司吉姆·博德曼的办公室里，原因太复杂，无法在这里详述。
And I'm sitting there and the phone rings, and it's somebody from the mayor's office.
我坐在那里，电话铃响了，是市长办公室的人打来的。
And they want 200 hot dogs for some event in some park for some kids.
他们想要 200 个热狗，用于某个公园为一些孩子举办的活动。
And Bodman says, "Sure, sure, sure." And then his voice goes kind of low.
博德曼说：“当然，当然，当然。”然后他的声音变得有些低沉。
And he says, "Listen to me.
他说：“听我说。
Can you give me any help on this Navy Pier thing?
你能给我关于海军码头这件事的任何帮助吗？
They're killing me on this Navy Pier thing.
他们在海军码头的事情上要杀了我。
And I don't understand it.
我不明白。
I don't understand why we can't get our dogs out onto Navy Pier."
我不明白为什么我们不能把我们的狗带到海军码头。”
Ira, take us to Navy Pier.
艾拉，带我们去海军码头。
Hit that sound.
敲那个声音。
All right.
好的。
Let's hit the sound through the magic of radio.
让我们通过无线电的魔力来聆听声音。
[PIER AMBIENCE] That was such a public radio moment, wasn't it?
[PIER AMBIENCE] 那真是一个公共广播时刻，不是吗？
Here we are on Navy Pier, Ira.
我们现在在艾拉海军码头。
It's a wonderful place for summer fun.
这是夏季游玩的好去处。
Carousels, Ferris wheels--
旋转木马、摩天轮——
Watch out for that kid with that balloon, Shirley.
小心那个拿着气球的孩子，雪莉。
[LAUGHTER] It's so realistic.
[笑声] 这太现实了。
There's a lot of shops, a lot of food, you know, the water and the boats and whatnot.
这里有很多商店，很多食物，你知道，还有水、船等等。
It's called the jewel of Chicago's lakefront.
它被称为芝加哥湖畔的明珠。
It's this high-traffic showcase area.
这是一个人流量大的展示区。
Tourists.
游客。
Shirley Jahad A lot of tourists, a lot of folks from the suburbs, a lot of kids--
雪莉·贾哈德 很多游客，很多来自郊区的人，很多孩子——
A lot of kids.
很多孩子。
Shirley Jahad --and grown ups.
雪莉·贾哈德——还有成年人。
It cost $100 million of taxpayer money, bond money, to refurbish Navy Pier.
翻新海军码头花费了 1 亿美元纳税人的钱，即债券资金。
And it was all carefully planned which businesses were going to go where.
哪些企业要去哪里，都是经过精心策划的。
Now, Bodman told me that he couldn't get the dog out on Navy Pier.
现在，博德曼告诉我，他无法在海军码头把狗弄出来。
Did he bid on the contract?
他投标了合同吗？
Bodman bid $0.45 lower per pound for his dogs to be on Navy Pier, and he still didn't get the contract.
博德曼为他的狗在海军码头上的出价每磅降低了 0.45 美元，但他仍然没有获得合同。
That seems to me to be not the way things are done.
在我看来，事情并非如此。
It's not the way things should have been done--
这不是事情应该做的方式——
Here in Chicago.
在芝加哥这里。
Shirley Jahad --in Chicago.
雪莉·贾哈德——在芝加哥。
Somehow this New York hot dog migrated into our backyard.
不知何故，这只纽约热狗搬到了我们的后院。
And it didn't happen by random occurrence.
这并不是随机发生的。
Somebody knew somebody who knew somebody.
有人认识某人，而某人又认识某人。
And they said, let's get Charlie's Hot Dogs into Navy Pier and we'll really have a big time with it because it's a very public place.
他们说，让我们把查理热狗带到海军码头，我们会玩得很开心，因为这是一个非常公共的地方。
No, it wasn't random.
不，这不是随机的。
Something happened.
发生了一些事情。
Somebody said something to someone, and that's the way the world works.
有人对某人说了些什么，这就是世界运转的方式。
And that's the way our city works.
这就是我们城市的运作方式。
The fix was in.
修复已经完成。
Well, yeah.
嗯，是的。
He doesn't quite say the fix was in.
他并没有说修复已经完成。
He just sort of leaves it at that.
他只是就此罢休。
I guess it's part of the Chicago code of honor in politics.
我想这是芝加哥政治荣誉准则的一部分。
You don't know nobody, nobody [?
你不认识任何人，没有人[？
sins.
罪恶。
?] So he wasn't going to exactly tell me who that somebody was who knew somebody.
？]所以他不会确切地告诉我那个认识某人的人是谁。
He wouldn't tell you?
他不告诉你？
Ah.
啊。
He would not tell you?
他不会告诉你吗？
He would not say.
他不会说。
Shirley Jahad Who was that, do you know?
雪莉·贾哈德 那是谁，你知道吗？
No. Shirley Jahad Was it somebody who worked for the Pier?
不是。雪莉·贾哈德 是在码头工作的人吗？
I might be a hot dog salesman, but I'm not stupid.
我可能是个热狗推销员，但我并不傻。
[LAUGHTER] Shirley Jahad Was it, like-- do you think--
[笑声]雪莉·贾哈德是不是，就像——你认为——
I'm not going to tell you.
我不会告诉你。
Nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah.
尼亚-尼亚-尼亚-尼亚-尼亚-尼亚。
Was it, was it, like-- Jim Bodman I don't know.
是吗，是吗，就像——吉姆·博德曼，我不知道。
I'm not going to tell you.
我不会告诉你。
See, there is a tactic you don't see many big corporate executives use with reporters, is just to mock you in a falsetto.
你看，有一种策略是很多大公司高管在面对记者时都不会使用的，那就是用假声来嘲笑你。
That's true, Ira.
确实如此，艾拉。
He was a tough one to crack.
他是一个很难破解的人。
You know what I'm saying?
你知道我在说什么吗？
He wouldn't come forward and tell me the name.
他不会主动告诉我名字。
Well, that's our system.
嗯，这就是我们的系统。
That's our system here in Chicago.
这就是我们在芝加哥的系统。
So where did you go?
那么你去了哪里？
So of course we had to take it to City Hall.
所以我们当然必须把它带到市政厅。
Bodman wasn't talking, so we had to go to our City Hall sources.
博德曼没有说话，所以我们必须去找市政厅的消息来源。
And of course, they did talk, albeit in a whisper.
当然，他们确实说话了，尽管是低声说话。
I mean, they weren't free to say everything openly.
我的意思是，他们不能自由地公开说出一切。
They weren't talking on tape, or anything.
他们没有在录音中交谈，或者其他什么。
But off tape, my City Hall sources did talk to me about this whole thing with the hot dogs on the Pier and how it really went down.
但在录音之外，我的市政厅消息来源确实和我谈论了码头热狗的整件事以及它是如何真正消失的。
How come the Chicago company didn't get their dogs on the Pier?
为什么芝加哥公司没有把他们的狗带到码头？
Now, did they give you a name of somebody who was the person who was keeping us off the Pier, keeping our homegrown dogs off the Pier?
现在，他们有没有告诉你那个阻止我们进入码头、阻止我们的本土狗进入码头的人的名字？
Did they give you a name?
他们给你起名字了吗？
We don't have a name.
我们没有名字。
Ira Glass We don't have a name.
艾拉·格拉斯：我们没有名字。
We still don't have a name.
我们还没有名字。
Ira Glass All right.
艾拉·格拉斯 好吧。
Well, what do we have?
那么，我们有什么？
But we do have some very important information.
但我们确实有一些非常重要的信息。
We do have confirmation, as we say in the business.
正如我们在业内所说，我们确实有确认。
We have confirmation.
我们有确认。
Because the City Hall source has confirmed to me that, yeah, this is how Chicago works.
因为市政厅的消息来源已经向我证实，是的，这就是芝加哥的运作方式。
It's been this way for years and years and years, and it's always going to be this way, he says.
他说，多年来一直都是这样，而且永远都是这样。
It's not necessarily the best way, but it is the way it is.
这不一定是最好的方式，但它就是这样。
And he said to me, quote, "The fix was in."
他对我说，“修复已经完成了。”
I would say, actually, given the fact that Bodman bid $0.45 less a pound and didn't get the contract, I'd say that I would believe that.
我想说，事实上，考虑到博德曼每磅少出价 0.45 美元并且没有获得合同，我会说我会相信这一点。
You would believe that.
你会相信这一点。
OK, well, we have confirmation.
好吧，我们已经确认了。
"The fix was in," he says.
“修复已经完成，”他说。
And then he says, "People need to be taken care of." These are his words, not mine.
然后他说：“人们需要得到照顾。”这是他的话，不是我的话。
Then he paused, though.
但随后他停了下来。
This was the interesting part.
这是有趣的部分。
He takes a pause.
他停顿了一下。
"People need to be taken care of," he says, and he pauses.
“人们需要受到照顾，”他说道，然后停顿了一下。
And he says, "And that's not necessarily a corrupt thing."
他说：“这不一定是腐败的事情。”
LAUGHTER] That's how it is in Chicago, you know?
笑声]芝加哥就是这样，你知道吗？
Well, you know.
嗯，你知道。
The streets are paved.
街道已铺好。
The garbage is picked up.
垃圾被捡起来。
That's a good thing.
这是一件好事。
That's right.
这是正确的。
Ira Glass So people need to be taken care of.
Ira Glass 所以人们需要被照顾。
That's right.
这是正确的。
And-- Ira Glass Then Bodman is--
而且——艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）然后博德曼（Bodman）是——
--Bodman is absolutely-- Ira Glass He's one of those people.
——博德曼绝对是——艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass），他就是其中之一。
He's one of those people.
他就是其中之一。
At this point, he really feels like he needs to be taken care of.
这一刻，他真的感觉自己需要被照顾。
Contributor to the mayor.
为市长做贡献。
Shirley Jahad He feels like he's been left hung out to dry after he did everything right.
雪莉·贾哈德（Shirley Jahad） 他感觉自己在做对了所有事情之后却被晾在一边。
He gives to the mayor's campaign.
他为市长的竞选活动捐款。
He comes whenever he's called at City Hall, and whatnot.
只要市政厅叫他，他就会来。
So next is?
那么接下来是？
Shirley Jahad So of course, what's next in politics?
雪莉·贾哈德（Shirley Jahad） 那么，当然，政治领域的下一步是什么？
A meeting.
一次会议。
Shirley Jahad Absolutely.
雪莉·贾哈德 绝对的。
They called a meeting.
他们召开了一次会议。
And all the players got together.
所有的球员都聚集在一起。
And so this is one of those quintessential Chicago-style political meetings.
因此，这是典型的芝加哥式政治会议之一。
You've all heard about them, maybe imagined them, high-powered, back room, smoke-filled--
你们都听说过他们，也许想象过他们，高能，密室，烟雾缭绕——
I wish I could only see-- Shirley Jahad --cigars.
我希望我只能看到——雪莉·贾哈德——雪茄。
--the mayor's schedule for that day.
——市长当天的日程安排。
"11:00 to 11:30, hot dog meeting." No detail too small.
“11:00到11:30，热狗聚会。”没有细节太小。
So what do we know about who was at this meeting?
那么我们对参加这次会议的人了解多少呢？
Well, you know, we have conflicting information on exactly who was at the meeting.
嗯，你知道，关于到底谁参加了会议，我们的信息是相互矛盾的。
My City Hall source tells me the mayor was, in fact, at the meeting, but of course--
我的市政厅消息来源告诉我，市长实际上参加了会议，但是当然——
This all-important, high-powered hot dog meeting, how could he miss it?
这么重要、高规格的热狗见面会，他怎么能错过呢？
But Bodman insists, no, the mayor wasn't there.
但博德曼坚称，不，市长不在场。
He has more important things to do than deal with these "weenie problems." Those are Bodman's words, again, not mine.
他有比处理这些“小问题”更重要的事情要做。这又是博德曼的话，不是我的话。
But who was there?
但谁在那里？
So who was there?
那么谁在那里呢？
All these officials from Navy Pier, the governing body of Navy Pier.
所有这些官员都来自海军码头，海军码头的管理机构。
That's a state agency, the Metropolitan Pier and Convention Authority, or some name like that.
那是一个国家机构，大都会码头和会议管理局，或者类似的名字。
OK, a state agency.
好的，国家机构。
So we've got people from a state agency, we've got the mayor.
我们有来自国家机构的人员，还有市长。
And assistants to the mayor and all different kinds of liaisons from the mayor's office.
还有市长助理和市长办公室的各种联络人。
And we have Bodman and his people.
我们还有博德曼和他的人民。
And we have some people from the catering company that deals with the contracts--
我们有一些来自餐饮公司的人负责处理合同——
At the pier, right?
就在码头吧？
Shirley Jahad --on Navy Pier.
雪莉·贾哈德——在海军码头。
So like we say, it's one of those, you know--
所以就像我们说的，这是其中之一，你知道——
And you picture this kind of thing, and you picture sort of a very high-powered glamorous sort of thing.
你想象这种东西，你想象一种非常强大、迷人的东西。
It was interesting.
这很有趣。
There were about 15 people in the room.
房间里大约有15人。
It was like a school board meeting.
这就像一次学校董事会会议。
You know, everybody likes to hear themselves talk.
你知道，每个人都喜欢听自己说话。
I'm so glad I was not there.
我很高兴我不在那儿。
Shirley Jahad It may have not been that exciting.
雪莉·贾哈德（Shirley Jahad）可能没那么令人兴奋。
As somebody who has been to many school board meetings, I just want to say.
作为一个参加过多次学校董事会会议的人，我只想说一下。
OK, so did he get satisfaction?
好吧，那么他满意了吗？
In the end, Bodman says justice was served.
最终，博德曼表示正义得到了伸张。
And now you can, dear listener, get your Vienna Beef dog on Navy Pier if you come to Chicago.
现在，亲爱的听众，如果您来到芝加哥，就可以在海军码头购买维也纳牛肉狗。
Justice was served on a sesame seed bun.
正义在芝麻包上得到了伸张。
Poppy seed bun, my dear.
罂粟籽面包，亲爱的。
Ira Glass Poppy seed bun, excuse me.
艾拉玻璃罂粟籽面包，对不起。
With hot peppers, thank you.
配上辣椒，谢谢。
Ira Glass All right.
艾拉·格拉斯 好吧。
So justice was served, and you can get your dog on Navy Pier now.
正义得到了伸张，你现在可以把你的狗带到海军码头了。
You can get your dog out on Navy Pier.
您可以将您的狗带出海军码头。
That's our city.
那是我们的城市。
It's the city that works.
这是一座运转良好的城市。
It's a place where politics runs deep thick throughout everything.
这是一个政治渗透到一切事物之中的地方。
It's in the air.
它在空气中。
You can't even see it.
你甚至看不到它。
Even hot dogs, you've got to take it to the fifth floor.
即使是热狗，也得拿到五楼。
You've got to take it to the mayor's office, that's right.
你必须把它带到市长办公室，是的。
It's not politics.
这不是政治。
Jim Bodman The truth of the matter is that this is just a business deal.
吉姆·博德曼 事实是，这只是一笔商业交易。
They were using hot dogs, and we didn't like the fact that they came from a competitor, and that's how our economic system works.
他们用的是热狗，我们不喜欢它们来自竞争对手，而这就是我们的经济体系的运作方式。
You get in there and you fight and you ask and you beg and you do whatever you can do that's legal and moral.
你进入那里，你打架，你询问，你乞求，你做任何你能做的合法和道德的事情。
And you try to get the business.
然后你试图获得生意。
And that's what the other people are trying to do also.
这也是其他人正在尝试做的事情。
Did we use the political people to help us in that fight?
我们是否利用政界人士来帮助我们进行这场斗争？
You bet we did.
你打赌我们做到了。
We called the mayor.
我们打电话给市长。
I would have called Bill Clinton had he answered the telephone.
如果比尔·克林顿接电话的话，我就会打电话给他。
Because if you've got some competitive blood flowing in your veins, that's what you do.
因为如果你的血管里流淌着竞争的血液，你就会这么做。
We didn't need Bill.
我们不需要比尔。
We needed Rich.
我们需要里奇。
And Rich is--
里奇是——
Rich, I should say for our listeners at home, Rich, of course, Rich Daley, our mayor.
里奇，我应该对我们国内的听众说，里奇，当然是我们的市长里奇戴利。
--the guy who helped us.
——那个帮助我们的人。
We used them.
我们用过它们。
We don't use them very often, but this is one time that we did use them.
我们不经常使用它们，但这是我们确实使用它们的一次。
But it was not political influence as much as it was just seeking help from people who we've helped before.
但这并不是政治影响，而只是向我们以前帮助过的人寻求帮助。
I just want to stop the tape right there.
我只想让磁带停在那里。
If that is not political influence, what is politics if it is not seeking help from people who you have helped before?
如果这都不是政治影响力，那么如果不是向你曾经帮助过的人寻求帮助，那政治又是什么？
Sounds kind of political.
听起来有点政治色彩。
Ira Glass All right.
艾拉·格拉斯 好吧。
But not to say there's anything wrong with that.
但并不是说这有什么问题。
Not to say there's anything wrong with that.
并不是说这有什么问题。
Yeah.
是的。
Above board.
上面。
Ira Glass All above board.
艾拉·格拉斯 一切光明正大。
Well, there's our city right there.
嗯，我们的城市就在那里。
Shirley Jahad, thank you for helping us with this little parable of the city that works and exactly how it works and how it extends even down to the lowliest bun.
雪莉·贾哈德（Shirley Jahad），谢谢你帮助我们讲了这个小寓言，讲述了这座城市的运作方式，以及它到底是如何运作的，以及它如何延伸到最低的发髻。
Thank you, Ira.
谢谢你，艾拉。
Ira Glass Thank you.
艾拉·格拉斯 谢谢。
You know, I should also say thanks to Dick Bodman who really had no good reason to talk to us.
你知道，我还应该感谢迪克·博德曼（Dick Bodman），他确实没有充分的理由与我们交谈。
That is a sign of a decent person.
这是一个正派人的标志。
And he's actually a listener to our radio station.
他实际上是我们广播电台的听众。
It is a generous act, and we appreciate that.
这是一种慷慨的行为，我们对此表示赞赏。
Act Four, Fast Food Heart.
第四幕，快餐之心。
One of the things about fast food is, like everything else in our in our culture, everything that's made to be throw-away, everything that's made to be disposable, like bad TV shows, everything like that, sooner or later we become so fond of it and it becomes a deep part of our experience.
关于快餐的一件事是，就像我们文化中的其他一切一样，所有被扔掉的东西，所有被制成一次性的东西，比如糟糕的电视节目，诸如此类的一切，迟早我们会变得如此喜欢它，它会成为我们经历的一个深刻的部分。
And then it becomes basically who we are.
然后它基本上就变成了我们。
That's the most philosophical thing I'm going to say on this show for the next year.
这是我明年要在这个节目中说的最有哲理的话。
Let me just say that right now.
我现在就这么说吧。
Anyway, so with that in mind, we have a story here by Cassandra Smith about the meaning of one particular fast food and fast food establishment.
无论如何，考虑到这一点，我们这里有一个由卡桑德拉·史密斯（Cassandra Smith）撰写的故事，讲述了一个特定快餐店和快餐店的含义。
On the 18th day in Japan, I finally broke down.
到日本第18天，我终于崩溃了。
Nearly three weeks and I had refused all Western food.
将近三个星期，我拒绝了所有西餐。
Not a cup of coffee or a glass of milk.
不是一杯咖啡或一杯牛奶。
I refused beef, white bread.
我拒绝牛肉、白面包。
I'd even given up chewing gum.
我什至放弃了口香糖。
My hostess was worried.
我的女主人很担心。
"Breakfast American style?" she asked every evening after my dinner of raw fish or shrimp.
“早餐是美式的吗？”每天晚上我吃了生鱼或虾后，她都会问我。
She had heard me gagging and crying late at night.
她在深夜听到我作呕和哭泣。
"No," I answered.
“不，”我回答。
I was determined to live and eat Japanese style.
我决心过日式的生活和饮食。
Seafood, soy sauce, and rice.
海鲜、酱油、米饭。
Even the candy is made out of rice.
就连糖果也是用大米做的。
On the 18th day, I cracked.
第18天，我崩溃了。
On a back street in Kyoto, the smell of hot fried chicken sliced through the air.
京都的一条小街上，空气中弥漫着热腾腾的炸鸡香味。
It was a siren song, a pied piper that led me zombie-like through the narrow streets.
那是一首海妖之歌，一首花衣笛，带领我像僵尸一样穿过狭窄的街道。
I followed the thick, greasy fragrance and found, jammed between the noodle shops and sushi bars, a safe haven.
我顺着浓浓的油腻香味，在面馆和寿司店之间找到了一个安全的避风港。
Here on a main street in Kyoto, Japan, next door to a kimono boutique, stood an outpost of civilization, a Kentucky Fried Chicken.
在日本京都的一条主要街道上，一家和服精品店的隔壁，矗立着一个文明的前哨站——肯德基。
The aroma of 11 herbs and spices pushed out into the evening air, past geishas on their way to work in full regalia and career girls rushing home with takeout sushi.
11 种药草和香料的香气弥漫在傍晚的空气中，经过身着盛装上班的艺伎和拿着外卖寿司赶回家的职业女性。
Standing at the door was a five-foot statue of the Colonel.
门口立着一尊五英尺高的上校雕像。
He was dressed all in white and holding a gold-tipped cane.
他一身白衣，手持一根金头手杖。
His eyes were slanted and his cheeks round and red like Santa, but it was him, the Colonel, with his right hand raised in a sign of peace.
他的眼睛斜视，脸颊又圆又红，就像圣诞老人一样，但那是他，上校，举起右手做出和平的手势。
I rushed inside.
我冲了进去。
Once in, I felt a flood of relief.
一进去，我就感到如释重负。
The familiar vinyl booths, the Colonel's smiling face over the menu, which even though it was in Japanese, I instantly understood.
熟悉的乙烯基摊位，菜单上上校的笑脸，尽管是日语，但我立刻就明白了。
Breast and wing, slaw and biscuit.
鸡胸肉和鸡翅，沙拉和饼干。
The cardboard box popped open like a magic jewel case.
纸板箱就像一个神奇的珠宝盒一样突然打开。
I sank my teeth into a greasy breast and heaved a sigh filled with tears.
我咬紧了油腻的乳房，含着泪水叹了口气。
When I finally looked up, I realized the restaurant was jam-packed with Japanese eating chicken and biscuits.
当我终于抬头时，我发现餐厅里挤满了吃鸡肉和饼干的日本人。
In the bright fluorescent light, they sucked bones and licked their fingers with gusto.
在明亮的荧光灯下，它们津津有味地吮着骨头，舔着手指。
The excitement was unbelievable.
兴奋之情令人难以置信。
And when I translated the cost of a snack box from yen to dollars, I realized that at these prices, this was a serious night out on the town.
当我将零食盒的价格从日元换算成美元时，我意识到按照这个价格，这在镇上度过了一个严肃的夜晚。
Suddenly, the taste of the chicken went sour in my mouth.
突然，鸡肉的味道在我嘴里变酸了。
The Japanese believe in the Colonel.
日本人相信上校。
They think he invented this recipe.
他们认为他发明了这个食谱。
I was numb with fury.
我气得麻木了。
"This is mine.
“这是我的。
Mine," I wanted to scream.
我的，”我想尖叫。
Black slaves invented this recipe.
黑人奴隶发明了这个食谱。
You think that old white man stood over a wood stove frying chicken?
你认为那个白人老头站在柴火炉旁炸鸡吗？
I looked from face to face, the voice screaming inside of my brain.
我看着一张张脸，脑海里那个声音在尖叫。
I wanted their gratitude.
我想要他们的感激之情。
I wanted credit for their greasy smiles.
我希望他们油腻的笑容得到赞扬。
"Look at me," I wanted to shout.
“看着我，”我想喊道。
"I'm the 11 herbs and spices.
“我是11种香草和香料。
I'm the secret recipe." All around, people were laughing and smacking and licking their fingers.
我就是秘方。”周围的人们都在大笑、打巴掌、舔手指。
And in the dark of the Kyoto night, the bright white statue of the Colonel shone like a beacon.
而在京都的夜色中，明亮的白色上校雕像就像一座灯塔一样闪闪发光。
Then I realized something else.
然后我意识到了另一件事。
This Colonel had destroyed my world and everything in it.
这位上校摧毁了我的世界和其中的一切。
Now, follow me here.
现在，跟我来吧。
This is what I'm trying to say.
这就是我想说的。
I'm saying that to understand the history of the last 40 years, you have to understand the history of chicken.
我是说，要了解过去40年的历史，你必须了解鸡的历史。
Kentucky Fried Chicken has wiped out a way of life, destroyed a culture.
肯德基消灭了一种生活方式，摧毁了一种文化。
It used to be that every black woman in America had her own secret recipe.
曾经，美国的每个黑人女性都有自己的秘方。
But nobody fries chicken anymore, not when they can pick up a bucket for eight.
但当他们能拿起一桶八人的炸鸡时，就不再有人炸鸡了。
And on top of that, chicken dinners were the foundation of an underground economy.
最重要的是，鸡肉晚餐是地下经济的基础。
Need a few extra dollars?
需要一些额外的美元吗？
Sell dinners.
卖晚餐。
We've experienced a hostile takeover of enormous proportions.
我们经历过大规模的敌意收购。
Church women who cleaned offices all night and sold dinners all day, they fed us and left our churches mortgage-free.
教堂里的女人们整夜打扫办公室，整天卖晚餐，她们养活了我们，让我们的教堂免于抵押。
We've forgotten our recipes.
我们忘记了我们的食谱。
And a few more years of the Colonel, and I'm afraid we might not remember anything.
上校再过几年，恐怕我们可能什么也记不起来了。
Cassandra Smith.
卡桑德拉·史密斯。
Act 5 Ira Glass Act Five, Know Your Meat.
第五幕 艾拉·格拉斯 第五幕，了解你的肉。
This is a poem by Lisa Buscani.
这是丽莎·布斯卡尼的一首诗。
I remember red meat.
我记得红肉。
In red meat's time, our lives were marbled with victory.
在红肉时代，我们的生活充满了胜利。
Fat meant winning, and we had room for bounce.
肥胖意味着胜利，我们还有反弹的空间。
The flesh of our fingers folded over our sacred rings, burying our eyes and doubling our smiles.
我们的手指的肉折叠在我们神圣的戒指上，埋葬了我们的眼睛，并增加了我们的微笑。
In red meat's time, we slapped it down to fry pans, to roasters, to broilers, through grinders.
在红肉时代，我们将其放入煎锅、烘烤机、烤肉机、研磨机中。
Skip the lying, seeping, surface.
跳过谎言、渗透的表面。
That's life.
这就是生活。
That's death.
那就是死亡。
That's the way it is.
事情就是这样。
That's the way it's always been.
一直都是这样。
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
如果它没有坏，就不要修理它。
And I'll give you something to cry about.
我会给你一些让你哭泣的东西。
The men then were men, and the women were bubbly.
那时的男人就是男人，女人就是活泼的。
Fuzzy, bunny, bubbly.
毛茸茸的，兔子的，泡泡的。
Impossibly singed, chiffon, giggling, bubbly.
难以置信的烧焦，雪纺，咯咯笑，充满气泡。
Thigh-high, long-line, nylon, fly-me-to-Rio bubbly.
及大腿、长线、尼龙、飞向里约的泡沫。
Excuse us while we powder our nose.
抱歉，我们正在搽鼻子。
[GASP]
[喘气]
And in the under and the back, deals were made featuring details you shouldn't know about sealed with the tight fiber of rare, red meat chased with hard, gold liquor, unnatural laughter, and prayer.
在下面和后面，交易的细节是你不应该知道的，用稀有的红肉的紧密纤维密封，用坚硬的金酒、不自然的笑声和祈祷来追逐。
And the men shifted in the overstuffed chairs, fearing and loving their birthrights as manly steaks, and godly brats snuggled under intestinal tissue for a long, long nap.
男人们在软垫椅子上翻来覆去，既害怕又热爱自己与生俱来的权利，就像有男子气概的牛排一样，虔诚的孩子们依偎在肠道组织下睡了很长很长的午觉。
It was science, blasted bodies of knowledge that ended it.
是科学、该死的知识体系结束了它。
Showing us how our hearts stopped too soon, our colons packed rock-solid with the remnants of grand tours, our veins viscous with bad fats.
向我们展示了我们的心脏是如何过早停止的，我们的冒号坚如磐石，充满了长途旅行的残余物，我们的血管因坏脂肪而变得粘稠。
Educations, cries, rattle, and gnash for alternatives, so we searched for other stuffs to tear between our teeth.
教育、哭泣、嘎嘎声、咬牙切齿地寻找替代方案，所以我们寻找其他可以用牙齿撕碎的东西。
Enter the fruits of the sea.
输入海洋果实。
The albacores, prawn, cods, swordfish, and soles that lay light and oily and sour on our plate.
我们盘子里的长鳍金枪鱼、对虾、鳕鱼、剑鱼和鳎鱼，味道清淡、油腻、酸酸的。
In seafood's time, we tread lightly.
在海鲜时代，我们要轻装上阵。
You could almost hear the wind chimes when we walked.
我们走路时几乎可以听到风铃的声音。
The world was beige, the wood was blond, and California had its airy tentacles in everything.
世界是米色的，树林是金色的，加州的一切都充满了它的轻灵触手。
We melted down to skeletal angles, laid artificial blends on our backs, and stalked the mandatory party.
我们融化成骨骼角，在背上铺上人造混合物，然后跟踪强制队伍。
In seafood's time, men were men and the women were sullen.
在海鲜时代，男人就是男人，女人就是闷闷不乐。
Straight-haired and bare-faced, they grew tired of waiting for their share of the shrimp.
他们直发、赤裸着脸，厌倦了等待自己那份虾。
Any male smile was sniffed and suspected of sexism.
任何男性的微笑都会被嗤之以鼻，并被怀疑存在性别歧视。
Sisters had been fooled before.
姐妹们以前都被骗过。
Women pulled back into books and behind low-level desks, waiting for the moment when they would emerge equal, like the butterfly folding back to cocoon in search of a greater wing.
女人们躲在书本里，躲在低矮的桌子后面，等待着她们平等出现的那一刻，就像蝴蝶折回茧里寻找更大的翅膀一样。
Some men, shaken by the loss of their girls, grew sideburns and frantically ran to make room.
一些男人因失去女儿而感到震惊，留起了鬓角，疯狂地跑去腾出空间。
Others rumbled away disgruntled, slamming their spiked tails against a volatile ground in the hope that something would come from the backlash.
其他人则不满地轰隆隆地走开，用带刺的尾巴猛烈地撞击不稳定的地面，希望能从反弹中得到什么。
The edge bled into gray as we abandoned right or wrong in Zen cowardice.
当我们在禅宗的怯懦中放弃对错时，边缘就变成了灰色。
The sex was shudder and exercise.
性爱是颤抖和锻炼。
Looking hard to the eye was far too messy and heavy for the time.
在当时看来，用肉眼看实在是太凌乱和沉重了。
And soon, we discovered that seafood stuck more to its shells than to our ribs, and its bones were always a problem.
很快，我们发现海鲜粘在壳上的次数比粘在肋骨上的次数多，而且它的骨头一直是个问题。
It was never cheap in a land-locked region and took too long to cook, thrashing its death throes in mad, cruel water.
在内陆地区，它的价格从来不便宜，而且烹饪时间太长，在疯狂、残酷的水中挣扎，使其垂死挣扎。
So we began again, looking for the food that wouldn't scar us.
于是我们又开始寻找不会让我们感到害怕的食物。
And along came poultry.
随之而来的是家禽。
Light and filling, miraculously versatile.
轻盈又饱满，神奇的多才多艺。
After all, didn't everything else aspire to taste like it?
毕竟，其他一切不都渴望有这样的味道吗？
Poultry gave itself up to us selflessly, blending perfectly in all our dishes.
家禽无私地奉献给我们，完美地融入了我们所有的菜肴中。
In life, these beaks were mean, jutting little monsters.
在生活中，这些喙是卑鄙的、突出的小怪物。
But in death, nude and hanging from its ankles, poultry was considerate enough to see that our blood kept pumping unobstructed.
但在死亡时，家禽赤身裸体，挂在脚踝上，体贴地看到我们的血液继续畅通无阻地流动。
In poultry's time, we filled back to livable weights, but not grossly so.
在家禽时代，我们的体重恢复到了适合居住的重量，但还不是很严重。
And with its fuel, we ran hard at what we wanted.
有了它的燃料，我们就可以努力实现我们想要的目标。
The world was-- the world was-- well, we can't remember what the world looked like.
世界曾经是——世界曾经是——好吧，我们不记得世界是什么样子了。
We never stopped long enough for it to focus from its blur.
我们从来没有停下来足够长的时间来让它从模糊中集中起来。
In poultry's time, the men were men and the women were men.
在家禽时代，男人就是男人，女人就是男人。
Check the musculature.
检查肌肉组织。
See the stamina.
看体力。
We watched as women tore up stomach lining with the best of them.
我们看到女人们用她们最擅长的方式撕裂胃壁。
Weren't their heads for fourth quarter figures and baby-making afterthoughts?
他们的心思不是在关注第四季度的数据和生孩子的事后想法吗？
Wasn't their laughter the most false silk, much like the scarves they wore as their last shred of sex?
他们的笑声难道不是最虚假的丝绸，就像他们最后一丝性爱时戴的围巾一样吗？
Kiss the kids and pass the paprikash, there was work to be done.
亲吻孩子们并传递辣椒粉，还有工作要做。
And the men, feeling rushed and outrun, slipped into hard, sleek, Italian numbers, legions of bloodless Pat Rileys.
男人们感到匆忙和落后，陷入了坚硬、光滑的意大利队伍，毫无血性的帕特·莱利军团。
They began to look downward for their models, not bothering to play by rules they kept changing.
他们开始向下寻找自己的模型，不再费心遵循不断变化的规则。
I'll bet you a Boesky and raise you two Trumps.
我会打赌你是布斯基，然后给你加注两张王牌。
In poultry's time, pork made a stab at such a claim, stamping its feet like a naggy little brother.
到了家禽时代，猪肉就挑战了这种说法，像个脾气暴躁的小兄弟一样跺着脚。
"I'm white meat.
“我是白肉。
Put me in, coach." But we would not be swayed.
教练，让我进去吧。”但我们不会动摇。
In the name of an ovine utopia, it was poultry that we loved.
以绵羊乌托邦的名义，我们喜欢的是家禽。
Until we found out how it was cleaned.
直到我们知道它是如何清洁的。
Or rather, how it wasn't cleaned.
或者更确切地说，它是如何没有被清理的。
Salmonella stories and other beastly bacteria.
沙门氏菌故事和其他可怕的细菌。
Jim Fixx dropped like a fly in mid-jog.
吉姆·菲克斯在慢跑途中像苍蝇一样摔倒了。
Nothing was ever what it seemed.
一切都不是看上去的那样。
And all promises lay shattered at the pedestal's base.
所有的承诺都在基座上破灭了。
Now we wander listlessly from food to food.
现在我们无精打采地从一个食物转到另一个食物。
Nothing fills us like we once knew.
没有什么能像我们曾经知道的那样充满我们。
Pasta is a sometime friend that bores us with its quantity.
面食有时是我们的朋友，但它的数量却让我们厌烦。
And we can never seem to bring the vegetable over from the side dish.
我们似乎永远无法把配菜里的蔬菜端过来。
Our options are melting like spring ice, and we are slipping to old-world poverties.
我们的选择像春天的冰一样融化，我们正在滑向旧世界的贫困。
Men and women are coming down slowly from their separate mountains.
男人和女人正从各自的山上慢慢走下来。
"Sorry.
“抱歉。
Really, sorry for everything.
真的，对一切感到抱歉。
I mean it." They are remembering the goodness in each other's faces, benevolent skin and bone.
我是说真的。”他们铭记着彼此脸上的善良、仁慈的肌肤和骨骼。
There is so much less static and distraction, and we have time now.
静电和干扰少了很多，我们现在有时间了。
Can't we try again?
我们不能再试一次吗？
And if you listen closely, you can hear the reticent, reformed tapping of red meat at our survival's door.
如果你仔细听，你就能听到敲响我们生存之门的红肉的沉默、改良的敲击声。
"Hi.
“嗨。
I was in the neighborhood.
我当时就在附近。
Don't the words 'lean' and 'free range' mean anything to anyone?
难道“精益”和“自由放养”这两个词对任何人来说都没有任何意义吗？
Give me another chance.
再给我一次机会。
Can't you?"
你不能吗？”
[MUSIC - "BUTCHER PETE" BY ROY BROWN]
[音乐 - 罗伊·布朗的《屠夫皮特》]
Lisa Buscani, a Chicago poet who now lives in Boston.
丽莎·布斯卡尼 (Lisa Buscani)，芝加哥诗人，现居波士顿。
Man, that song is nasty.
伙计，这首歌很难听。
Well, our program produced today by Alix Spiegel and Nancy Updike, Peter Clowney and myself.
好吧，我们今天的节目由阿利克斯·斯皮格尔、南希·厄普代克、彼得·克劳尼和我自己制作。
Contributing editors, Paul Tough, Jack Hitt, and Margy Rochlin.
特约编辑 Paul Tough、Jack Hitt 和 Margy Rochlin。
I'm just switching music here.
我只是在这里切换音乐。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] If you would like a copy of this program, it's only $10.
[致谢] 如果您想要一份该程序的副本，仅需 10 美元。
Call us at WBEZ to order that.
请致电 WBEZ 订购。
312-832-3380.
312-832-3380。
312-832-3380.
312-832-3380。
All of the shows we do are available on cassette.
我们做的所有节目都可以在磁带上找到。
Our email address, [email protected] .
我们的电子邮件地址，[电子邮件受保护]。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Torey Malatia.
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理由 Torey Malatia 监督。
I'm Ira Glass--
我是艾拉·格拉斯——
Hi.
嗨。
Me again.
又是我。
2006.
2006年。
That's pretty much all we have of that show.
这几乎就是我们对该节目的全部了解。
I hope you enjoyed it.
我希望你喜欢它。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。