31: When You Talk About Music - This American Life
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Act One: When You Talk Music Ira Glass From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life.
第一幕：当你谈论来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的 Ira Glass 音乐时，这就是“美国生活”。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
And each week on our show we choose a theme, invite writers and performers of all kinds to do stories on that theme.
在我们的节目中，我们每周都会选择一个主题，邀请各种作家和表演者围绕该主题创作故事。
And, usually, somewhere near the top of the show, I tell you what the theme is and give you a little road map of what's coming up in the hour.
而且，通常，在节目接近顶部的某个地方，我会告诉您主题是什么，并为您提供一个小时内即将发生的事情的小路线图。
But I think that today, it's going to be more interesting if we just start right in on the first act and let things unfold for a while before I give it a name, before I tell you what the theme is.
但我认为今天，如果我们从第一幕开始，让事情展开一段时间，然后我给它命名，然后我告诉你主题是什么，那会更有趣。
So our first story is by Dael Orlandersmith.
我们的第一个故事是由 Dael Orlandersmith 撰写的。
It's originally from her Obie-award winning show, Beauty's Daughters, and was recorded at a variety show here in Chicago, called Millie's Orchid Show.
它最初来自她的奥比奖获奖节目《美女的女儿》，并在芝加哥的一个名为“米莉的兰花秀”的综艺节目中录制。
Before we begin this story, two quick caveats.
在我们开始这个故事之前，有两个简短的警告。
Number one, some of the language might not be suitable for younger listeners.
第一，某些语言可能不适合年轻的听众。
Though, as you'll hear, we've beeped out the nastiest words.
不过，正如你所听到的，我们已经说出了最难听的话。
And, number two-- and usually I would never point something like this out-- you need to know that Dael is a woman, an African-American woman.
而且，第二点——通常我永远不会指出这样的事情——你需要知道戴尔是一名女性，一名非裔美国女性。
And I point this out because, If I didn't, you wouldn't be able to enjoy what the audience in the theater with her gets to enjoy, which is the pleasure of watching her complete transformation into this loudmouthed, white guy.
我指出这一点是因为，如果我不这样做，你就无法享受到她在剧院里的观众所享受到的乐趣，那就是看着她完全转变为这个大声说话的白人的乐趣。
So here's Dael Orlandersmith.
请听戴尔·奥兰德史密斯的报道。
Hey!
嘿！
Ah!
啊!
Jerry!
杰瑞！
How you doin', buddy?
你怎么样，伙计？
How you doin'?
你好吗'？
Lorraine, you lookin' good honey.
洛林，亲爱的，你看起来很好。
You lookin' so fine.
你看起来很好。
Lenny!
莱尼！
How's it going?
怎么样了？
All right.
好的。
Johnny Black, nectar of the gods.
约翰尼·布莱克，众神的甘露。
Oh, man.
哦，伙计。
I tell you, Len, today was [BLEEP].
我告诉你，Len，今天是[BLEEP]。
Yeah, yeah.
是啊是啊。
I know every day is [BLEEP].
我知道每一天都是[BLEEP]。
But today was really [BLEEP], you know?
但今天真的是[BLEEP]，你知道吗？
So [BLEEP] busy.
所以[BLEEP]很忙。
See, everybody I know who works in the fish market-- because my clothes are gettin' [BLEEP] ruined here-- everybody I know who works in the fish market, their clothes are [BLEEP] up.
瞧，我认识的每个在鱼市工作的人——因为我的衣服都被[哔哔声]毁坏了——我认识的每个在鱼市工作的人，他们的衣服都被[哔哔声]弄坏了。
And I tell you, Len, I can't stand the thought of goin' home right now.
我告诉你，莱恩，我现在一想到要回家就受不了。
I just can't.
我就是不能。
Theresa's gettin' fatter and fatter.
特蕾莎越来越胖了。
It ain't 'cause she's pregnant because I don't touch this bitch.
这不是因为她怀孕了，因为我不碰这个母狗。
[LAUGHTER] Dael Orlandersmith Well, what?
[笑声] Dael Orlandersmith 嗯，什么？
What?
什么？
I'm cold for saying that?
我这么说就冷了？
Why am I cold?
我为什么冷？
Lenny, let me explain something.
莱尼，让我解释一下。
No, please wait.
不，请稍等。
No, please, please listen to me.
不，请你听我说。
Lenny, I'm 31 years old.
莱尼，我31岁了。
I'm married 12 years.
我结婚12年了。
I got seven kids.
我有七个孩子。
I'm a young man.
我是一个年轻人。
I'm [BLEEP] trapped.
我[哔]被困住了。
And TT's the laziest bitch in the world.
TT 是世界上最懒的母狗。
No, no, hear me out.
不不不，听我说完。
Here she is, 28 years old, looking 50.
这是她，28 岁，看起来 50 岁。
The problem is?
问题是？
The problem is I married too quick.
问题是我结婚太快了。
My cousin, Jimmy, says to me, he says, "Anthony, don't get married so quick.
我的表弟吉米对我说，“安东尼，别这么快结婚。
You's two are young.
你们两个还年轻。
Go out and get laid.
出去上床吧。
Have a pisser." But, of course, I don't listen, right?
尿个尿吧。”但是，当然，我不听，对吧？
I don't listen.
我不听。
So this is what I am today.
所以这就是我今天的样子。
Come here.
过来吧。
I wanna tell you something.
我想告诉你一件事。
Come here.
过来吧。
I wanna tell you something.
我想告诉你一件事。
Come here [BLEEP].
来这里[哔]。
Don't [BLEEP] with me.
别跟我一起[哔]。
Come over here.
过来吧。
Come over here.
过来吧。
[LAUGHTER] Dael Orlandersmith I met this chick at my friend Manno's wedding.
[笑声] Dael Orlandersmith 我在朋友 Manno 的婚礼上认识了这个小妞。
Yeah, it's a black chick.
是的，这是一只黑妞。
Yeah, right.
是的，对。
Anthony Mancuso.
安东尼·曼库索。
Right.
正确的。
Same [BLEEP] guy from Red Hook.
来自红钩的同一个[BLEEP]家伙。
Right.
正确的。
Same guy.
同一个人。
Right.
正确的。
He's been in here with me a few times.
他和我一起来过这里几次。
Right.
正确的。
He lives on 36th Avenue now, in Bensonhurst.
他现在住在本森赫斯特第 36 大道。
Right.
正确的。
It's the same guy.
这是同一个人。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah!
是的！
It's the same [BLEEP] guy.
这是同一个[BLEEP]家伙。
Yeah, it's the same guy.
是的，这是同一个人。
[LAUGHTER] Dael Orlandersmith So, anyway, you know, we're at the reception, right?
[笑声] Dael Orlandersmith 那么，无论如何，你知道，我们在接待处，对吧？
And TT's talking to Manno's wife, Gail, with the rest of the Cusonettes, right?
TT 正在与 Manno 的妻子 Gail 以及 Cusonettes 的其他成员交谈，对吧？
They're sitting there.
他们坐在那里。
They're talkin', "Nah, nah, nah, nah nah." And Manno's wife, Gail, is no prize either, [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
他们说：“不，不，不，不，不。”曼诺的妻子盖尔也不是奖品，[无法理解]。
So anyway, this black chick-- Diane, her name is, right-- is sittin' over to the side, right?
不管怎样，这个黑人小妞——黛安，她的名字是，对吧——坐在一边，对吧？
So I look over at her, smile.
所以我看着她，微笑。
She smiles back.
她回以微笑。
Then I notice that she's big, not fat, big.
然后我注意到她很大，不是胖，而是很大。
In proportion, the way TT used to be, right?
按比例来说，TT过去就是这样的，对吧？
So I go over to her and I say, "You know, I really think you're good-lookin'.
于是我走到她跟前说：“你知道吗，我真的觉得你很漂亮。
And they really need to get rid of words like Nigger and Guinea.
他们确实需要摆脱像“黑鬼”和“几内亚”这样的词。
Do you know why?
你知道为什么吗？
Because I wanna put my tongue in your mouth." She gets mad.
因为我想把我的舌头放进你的嘴里。”她生气了。
[LAUGHTER] Dael Orlandersmith She says, "Let me tell you something.
[笑声] Dael Orlandersmith 她说：“让我告诉你一件事。
The only reason why you came over here is because I'm the only black person at this wedding.
你来这里的唯一原因是因为我是这场婚礼上唯一的黑人。
Well, guess what?
嗯，你猜怎么着？
I don't have a problem with that.
我对此没有意见。
You do.
你会的。
So do yourself a favor.
所以帮自己一个忙吧。
Get out of my face before I hurt you."
在我伤害你之前，从我面前滚开。”
Now I'm standing there [BLEEP] slammed, right?
现在我站在那里[BLEEP] 猛地撞了一下，对吧？
So I say, "Listen.
所以我说：“听着。
Listen.
听着。
Come here.
过来吧。
Listen.
听着。
I don't care how big you are.
我不在乎你有多大。
Woman or not, you hit me, you're dead," right?
不管你是不是女人，你打了我，你就死定了，”对吧？
Then she says, "First of all, my being a woman is not the issue because I'm more man than you'll ever be and more woman than you'll ever know."
然后她说：“首先，我作为一个女人不是问题，因为我比你更男人，也比你想象的更女人。”
[WHOOPS] Dael Orlandersmith "Second of all, technically, I know I can't whip you because you're still a man.
[哎呀] Dael Orlandersmith “其次，从技术上讲，我知道我不能鞭打你，因为你仍然是一个男人。
But, if you lay one finger on me, I'll give you such a fight you'll wish to God you stayed home today.
但是，如果你动我一根手指头，我就会给你一场战斗，你会希望上帝让你今天待在家里。
In other words, my name is pain.
换句话说，我的名字是痛苦。
I will inflict.
我将施加。
Now, do you really wanna [BLEEP] with me?"
现在，你真的想和我一起[BLEEP]吗？”
So now, you know, like, I'm quiet, right?
所以现在，你知道，我很安静，对吧？
And I'm also scared outta my mind.
我也害怕极了。
Now, part of me wants to give her a smack, and another part of me's in love, Lenny, she's so [BLEEP] tough, right?
现在，我的一部分想给她一巴掌，而我的另一部分却爱上了莱尼，她是如此[哔]坚强，对吧？
So I say, "Rocky!
所以我说：“洛基！
Hey!
嘿！
Hey!
嘿！
Hey!
嘿！
Hey, Rocky.
嘿，洛基。
I'm sorry, baby.
对不起，宝贝。
I apologize.
我道歉。
Come with me to the bar to get a drink," right?
跟我去酒吧喝一杯吧？”
So we go to the bar.
所以我们去酒吧。
We go to the bar, right?
我们去酒吧吧？
So I say, "Diane, let me order you a rum and Coke, because I know that blacks and Ricas like that, right?" She gets mad again, right?
所以我说，“黛安，让我给你点一杯朗姆酒和可乐，因为我知道黑人和黎加人喜欢这样，对吧？”她又生气了吧？
And she says, "Order me Stoli, rocks, lime garnish, and stop being an asshole." So now I know I'm in love, right?
她说：“给我点斯托利、岩石、酸橙装饰，别再当混蛋了。”所以现在我知道我恋爱了，对吗？
Right.
正确的。
So we go to the bar.
所以我们去酒吧。
We're hangin' out.
我们正在闲逛。
We're talkin', "Yadda, yadda yadda." And the DJ starts playing.
我们正在谈论，“Yadda，yadda yadda。” DJ 开始演奏。
I give you one [BLEEP] guess, man.
我给你一个[哔]猜测，伙计。
One guess.
一个猜测。
There you go, baby, Sinatra, Jerry Vale.
好了，宝贝，西纳特拉，杰里·维尔。
I swear on my mother, every Guinea wedding, Sinatra, Jerry Vale, right?
我向我母亲发誓，每次几内亚婚礼，西纳特拉，杰瑞维尔，对吧？
So then, since all of us are in our '30s, the DJ started playing disco because that's what we danced to when we were kids, and [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
然后，由于我们所有人都已经 30 多岁了，DJ 开始播放迪斯科，因为这就是我们小时候跳舞的音乐，并且[无法理解]。
And I asked Diane would she like to dance.
我问黛安她想跳舞吗？
And she says, "No." She hates disco, likes rock, old R&B and jazz.
她说：“不。”她讨厌迪斯科，喜欢摇滚、老式R&B和爵士乐。
I said, "Oh, my God." I said, "What?
我说：“哦，天啊。”我说：“什么？
You like jazz?" So she said, "Yeah." Lenny, I swear on my [BLEEP] mother, for the next three hours we're talkin' jazz.
你喜欢爵士乐吗？”于是她说：“是的。”莱尼，我向我的[哔]妈妈发誓，接下来的三个小时我们都在谈论爵士乐。
You see, I don't know whether you know this, but I was a major jazz fan, man.
你看，我不知道你是否知道这一点，但我是一个爵士乐迷，伙计。
I used play.
我用的是玩。
I used to play horn.
我以前吹喇叭。
I was playing both sax and trumpet.
我同时吹萨克斯和小号。
And my [BLEEP] record collection, man, I had Cannonball Adderley.
还有我的 [BLEEP] 唱片收藏，伙计，我有 Cannonball Adderley。
I had Miles and Prez, you know?
我有迈尔斯和普雷兹，你知道吗？
See, jazz, at that time, man, was like so a part of me, you know?
你看，爵士乐，那时候，伙计，就像我的一部分，你知道吗？
But I can't touch it any more.
但我不能再碰它了。
You know what I'm saying?
你知道我在说什么吗？
So Diane is a poet, you know?
所以黛安是一位诗人，你知道吗？
And I never knew a poet before.
我以前从不认识诗人。
And she was talkin' about, maybe, that I could pick up my horn again, and maybe she could write lyrics.
她正在谈论，也许，我可以再次拿起我的喇叭，也许她可以写歌词。
And God, I swear to God, Lenny.
上帝，我向上帝发誓，莱尼。
This woman is so [BLEEP] beautiful to me now, right?
这个女人现在对我来说是如此[BLEEP]美丽，对吧？
And I'm thinking well, yeah.
我想得很好，是的。
Maybe, yeah, you know?
也许，是的，你知道吗？
I could pick up the horn again.
我可以再次拿起喇叭。
You know?
你知道？
And she's just talkin' and talkin'.
她只是一直说个不停。
And I swear she's the most beautiful thing I ever seen, right?
我发誓她是我见过的最美丽的人，对吧？
And she tells me, she says-- I'm gonna sound [BLEEP] queer saying this to you, all right-- but she says, "Anthony, when you talk about music, your face becomes beautiful." Yeah, she said that to me, Lenny.
她告诉我，她说——我对你说这些听起来会很奇怪，好吧——但她说，“安东尼，当你谈论音乐时，你的脸变得很漂亮。”是的，她对我这么说，莱尼。
She also called me a pain in the ass.
她还骂我是个讨厌鬼。
But she said, when I talk music, I become beautiful.
但她说，当我谈论音乐时，我变得美丽。
So, Lenny, all of a sudden-- wait a minute.
所以，莱尼，突然——等一下。
Wait.
等待。
I don't want nobody to hear this, right?
我不想让任何人听到这个，对吗？
All of a sudden, Lenny, sittin' there, talking about all these people that I liked in jazz, I felt like crying because I'm not going to be able to touch it again.
突然间，莱尼坐在那里，谈论我在爵士乐中喜欢的所有这些人，我想哭，因为我再也无法触及它们了。
And nobody ever saw that in me before, you know?
以前没有人在我身上看到过这一点，你知道吗？
Nobody.
没有人。
So, anyway, we're talking.
所以，无论如何，我们正在谈论。
And she's really hot, you know?
她真的很性感，你知道吗？
And I wanted to get outside because I was dying to ask for her phone number, right?
我想出去，因为我很想问她的电话号码，对吗？
Seconds later, TT walks out with the kids.
几秒钟后，TT 带着孩子们走了出去。
"Anthony, me and the kids are ready to go home.
“安东尼、我和孩子们准备回家了。
Now!" Diane looks at me like I'm [BLEEP] crazy, right?
现在！”黛安看着我，好像我疯了，对吧？
TT's standin' there looking like a [BLEEP] whale.
TT 站在那里，看上去就像一头[哔]鲸鱼。
What the [BLEEP] can I do?
[BLEEP] 我能做什么？
Bada bing.
八达兵。
Bada bang.
巴达砰。
I introduce them to each other.
我把他们互相介绍。
Diane says, "Pleased to meet you.
黛安说：“很高兴认识你。
I'm outta here.
我要离开这里了
I'm doing the slide."
我正在做幻灯片。”
That night, I take TT home, right?
那天晚上，我带TT回家吧？
And dig this.
并挖掘这个。
Dig this.
挖这个。
I go down in my basement, right?
我去地下室吧？
And, for the first time in five years, I pick up my sax.
五年来我第一次拿起萨克斯管。
And it feels so [BLEEP] good to hold it, you know?
握着它的感觉真好[BLEEP]，你知道吗？
Then I put it to my mouth, and with every note I can taste, feel, Diane.
然后我把它放进嘴里，每一个音符我都能尝到、感觉到，黛安。
See, she's all over this [BLEEP] horn.
看，她全神贯注于这个[BLEEP]喇叭。
Then I put the sax down, open my eyes, and it dawns on me I ain't going nowhere.
然后我放下萨克斯，睁开眼睛，我突然意识到我哪儿也不去。
I ain't going nowhere.
我哪儿也不去。
But I could always do another shot of Johnny Black, right, babe?
但我总可以再拍约翰尼·布莱克的一个镜头，对吧，宝贝？
Well, wah, don't worry about me.
嗯，哇，别担心我。
I won't get junked.
我不会被废掉。
I can't.
我不能。
I gotta go to work tomorrow.
明天我得去上班。
But, you know, this is my time now, right?
但是，你知道，现在是我的时间了，对吧？
Just let me sit here for a few minutes, all right?
让我在这里坐几分钟，好吗？
I tell you what, my time.
我告诉你什么，我的时间。
I'll go in a little while.
我一会儿就去。
I'll go in a little while.
我一会儿就去。
[APPLAUSE] [MUSIC PLAYING - ORIGINAL SAX SOLO BY KEN VANDERMARK]
[掌声] [音乐播放 - KEN VANDERMARK 原创萨克斯独奏]
Ken Vandermark on the sax.
肯·范德马克 (Ken Vandermark) 吹萨克斯。
This story was by Dael Orlandersmith.
这个故事的作者是戴尔·奥兰德史密斯。
And this brings us to today's theme, which is people who come alive for music, people who live for music, even though, for most of them, they'll never get very far with music.
这就引出了我们今天的主题，即为音乐而生的人，为音乐而活的人，尽管对于他们中的大多数人来说，他们永远不会在音乐上走得太远。
All our stories today, on today's show, are people about whom you could say--
我们今天、今天的节目中所有的故事，都是你可以说的人——
When you talk about music, your face becomes beautiful.
当你谈论音乐时，你的脸变得美丽。
That's right.
这是正确的。
In our program today Act Two-- we just heard Act One-- Act Two will be a brother who struggles to be a star.
在我们今天的节目中，第二幕——我们刚刚听到第一幕——第二幕将是一个努力成为明星的兄弟。
Act Three, Choosing Fandom.
第三幕，选择粉丝圈。
Act Four, a life in music without fame or fortune.
第四幕，无名无利的音乐生活。
So we are now at Act Two, for those of you who are keeping careful, careful score.
现在我们进入第二幕，对于那些非常小心地记分的人来说。
I know there's so many of you who are.
我知道你们中有很多人都是这样的人。
Act Two is a story about somebody who decided to follow his dream, about being a musician.
第二幕讲述了一个人决定追随自己的梦想，成为一名音乐家的故事。
And, you know, usually, when you hear stories about somebody chasing a dream like this, stories about rock stars or Olympic athletes, or writers, or painters, or basically anybody who had to get out there and follow that star, follow that dream, we don't hear how crushingly hard it is for the overwhelming majority of them.
而且，你知道，通常，当你听到关于有人追逐这样的梦想的故事，关于摇滚明星或奥运会运动员、作家、画家，或者基本上任何必须走出去追随那个明星、追随那个梦想的人的故事时，我们不会听到对他们中的绝大多数人来说这是多么艰难。
And in the middle of the story, usually, you don't wonder is this worth it?
在故事进行到一半的时候，你通常不会想知道这值得吗？
Well, the story you're about to hear does not have that shortcoming.
嗯，你将要听到的故事没有这个缺点。
You definitely wonder.
你肯定想知道。
The story you're about to hear was produced by Jay Allison with Dan Gediman.
您即将听到的故事由杰·艾利森 (Jay Allison) 和丹·格迪曼 (Dan Gediman) 共同制作。
Dan is the one who narrates the story.
丹是讲述这个故事的人。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "FALL IN LOVE" BY ALEX JONES SINGING TOM JONES]
[音乐播放 - 亚历克斯·琼斯演唱汤姆·琼斯的《坠入爱河》]
That's not Tom Jones.
那不是汤姆·琼斯。
It's my brother, Alex Jones.
这是我的兄弟，亚历克斯·琼斯。
And that's not his real name.
那不是他的真名。
His real name is Mark Gediman.
他的真名是马克·格迪曼。
You know, my real last name is Gediman, G- E- D, as in David, I- M- A- N.
你知道，我真正的姓氏是 Gediman，G-E-D，就像大卫的姓氏，I-M-A-N。
You know, I'm proud of the name.
你知道，我为这个名字感到自豪。
But, as far as show biz is concerned, it can't be spelled.
但对于演艺圈来说，却是无法拼写的。
My brother's middle name is Alex.
我哥哥的中间名是亚历克斯。
He bumped it up to the front.
他把它撞到了前面。
But I like Alex.
但我喜欢亚历克斯。
Alexes work.
亚历克斯工作。
There aren't too many Alexes that are big these days, so I'm sticking with that name.
现在没有太多亚历克斯这么大了，所以我坚持用这个名字。
It's very catchy because people always remember Alex.
这很吸引人，因为人们总是记得亚历克斯。
For a while, when he was in this rock band in the late '70s, he called himself Alex Space.
70 年代末，当他加入这个摇滚乐队时，有一段时间他称自己为 Alex Space。
But that's another story.
但那是另一个故事了。
For the past five years it's been Jones, Alex Jones.
在过去的五年里，一直是琼斯，亚历克斯·琼斯。
I had a jones for singing.
我有一个唱歌的琼斯。
I had an addiction.
我上瘾了。
That's pretty much the truth.
这几乎是事实。
My brother has had a jones for singing for just about as long as he's been alive.
我哥哥一生中就热衷于唱歌。
All he ever wanted to do is make music, to sing for people.
他唯一想做的就是创作音乐，为人们唱歌。
The Kiwanis group, the Knights of Columbus, the Lions Club, the Elks, the Sons of Italy, you name it, if there's one of those, I've been there.
基瓦尼斯队、哥伦布骑士队、狮子俱乐部、麋鹿队、意大利之子队，只要你能想到的，如果有的话，我都去过那里。
My brother sang constantly in our house when we were growing up.
当我们长大的时候，我哥哥经常在我们家里唱歌。
He always wanted to be a rock star or the next great soul singer.
他一直想成为一名摇滚明星或下一个伟大的灵魂歌手。
Once he was out on his own, he sang everywhere he could.
一旦他独自出去，他就到处唱歌。
And he still does, anywhere he can find an audience to appreciate him.
现在他仍然这样做，无论他在哪里都能找到观众欣赏他。
--the Jerry Lewis Telethon.
——杰里·刘易斯电视马拉松。
I've done schools.
我办过学校。
I've done colleges.
我读过大学。
I've done arts exhibition and whatever-- they also have cows and things like that, you know, one of those-- and, basically, anybody that'll have me, you know?
我做过艺术展览之类的——他们也有牛之类的东西，你知道，其中之一——基本上，任何人都会有我，你知道吗？
Yeah, Tom gets around.
是的，汤姆四处走动。
[LAUGHTER] Dan Gediman My brother's been in countless rock, blues, and R&B bands over the years.
[笑声] Dan Gediman 我哥哥多年来参加过无数摇滚、布鲁斯和 R&B 乐队。
But, these days, he's mostly hired as a Tom Jones impersonator.
但如今，他大多被聘为汤姆·琼斯的模仿者。
He does that by night, though.
不过，他会在晚上这样做。
During the day, he holds down a straight job.
白天，他干着一份正经的工作。
You know, it's tough to tell people, your co-workers, I'm going to be Tom Jones, particularly when I've been trying for the last few years to develop an image of this-- I've been working as a computer analyst-- and developing this image as this kind of conservative nerd-type.
你知道，告诉别人、你的同事，我将成为汤姆·琼斯是很困难的，特别是当我在过去几年里一直在努力塑造这样一个形象——我一直在担任计算机分析师——并将这个形象塑造成这种保守的书呆子类型。
And I've totally, totally blown it.
我完全彻底搞砸了。
[SINGING - "FALL IN LOVE" AS TOM JONES]
[演唱-《坠入爱河》，饰演汤姆·琼斯]
My brother performs with a revue called The Hall of Fame Superstars.
我哥哥在一个名为“名人堂超级巨星”的滑稽剧中表演。
There's a Patsy Cline, an Elton John, Buddy Holly, Roy Orbison.
有帕齐·克莱恩、埃尔顿·约翰、巴迪·霍利、罗伊·奥比森。
And then my brother closes the show as Tom Jones.
然后我哥哥以汤姆·琼斯的身份结束了演出。
Singing as Tom Jones is very similar to the way that I naturally sing.
以汤姆·琼斯的身份唱歌与我自然唱歌的方式非常相似。
We have a lot in common.
我们有很多共同点。
But I've gotten to the point where I'm hitting notes and doing things that are beyond the scope of what he did.
但我已经到了这样的地步：我的笔记和做的事情超出了他所做的范围。
My brother is nothing, if not confident, at least on the surface.
我哥哥就算不自信，也没什么，至少表面上是这样。
He thinks positive and has an uncanny, almost, overconfidence.
他思维积极，并且有一种不可思议的、近乎过度的自信。
It's an amazing quality, really, even unsettling.
这是一种令人惊奇的品质，真的，甚至令人不安。
My brother's 43, not married, doesn't have kids.
我弟弟43岁了，还没结婚，也没有孩子。
He's had a lot of girlfriends, but he doesn't have a steady one now.
他曾经有过很多女朋友，但现在还没有一个稳定的。
These days, he's living at home with my parents in Massachusetts.
这些天，他和我父母住在马萨诸塞州的家里。
All right.
好的。
Dan Gediman --for a little bit to get out of the way.
丹·格迪曼（Dan Gediman）——稍微让开一点。
Growing up, we had a room in the house we called the music room.
在成长过程中，我们的房子里有一个房间，我们称之为音乐室。
That's where my brother and I talked the last time I was home visiting.
上次我回家探望时，我和哥哥就是在那里谈话的。
There was a Scott amplifier.
有一个斯科特放大器。
Dan Gediman Right.
丹·格迪曼 对。
Right in the corner here.
就在这里的拐角处。
Yeah, and in the corner here was a very large, professional turntable, which had come right from a radio station.
是的，这里的角落里有一个非常大的专业转盘，它来自广播电台。
And I forget what the brand of that one was.
而且我忘了那个是什么牌子的。
Rek-O-Kut.
雷克-奥-库特。
Mark Gediman Rek-O-Kut, yeah.
马克·格迪曼·雷克-奥-库特，是的。
But it was a top-of-the-line.
但这是顶级的。
But, yeah, this was a great room, great atmosphere.
但是，是的，这是一个很棒的房间，气氛很棒。
And you walked in this room and there were little musical notes bouncing all around it.
当你走进这个房间时，周围有小音符在跳动。
And it was a place where we could just go in and play around and make believe you're the star.
这是一个我们可以进去玩耍并假装你是明星的地方。
[SINGING] Come on, baby.
[唱歌] 来吧，宝贝。
Oh, let's loop-a-loo.
哦，让我们循环一下。
She's a ha-hum, baby.
她是个哈哈，宝贝。
Nothin' she can do.
她无能为力。
She's my little baby.
她是我的小宝贝。
Little Latin Lupe Loo.
小拉丁语 Lupe Loo。
This is a tape of my brother pretending to be a star, recorded on my family's old Grundig tape recorder back around 1966.
这是我哥哥假装成明星的一盘磁带，录制于 1966 年左右，用我家的旧根德录音机录制。
My parents put a lot of insulation in the walls of the music room, so my brother could really scream.
我父母在音乐室的墙壁上放了很多隔热材料，这样我弟弟就可以尖叫了。
The entertainers who really are memorable and who've stand the test of time, a great deal of them have tremendous screams.
那些真正令人难忘、经受住时间考验的艺人，他们中的很多人都会发出巨大的尖叫声。
So I've always thought that screaming was essential to someone who-- not necessarily in the popular music idiom.
所以我一直认为尖叫对于某些人来说是必不可少的——但在流行音乐习语中不一定如此。
But, in anything that had any kind of edge or soul to it, there's got to be a scream there, somewhere.
但是，任何具有某种边缘或灵魂的事物，都必须在某个地方发出尖叫声。
And the whole reason is the same reason.
整个原因都是同一个原因。
It's a expression of the most inner, primal feelings.
这是最内在、最原始的情感的表达。
Wow!
哇！
Hey!
嘿！
Oh!
哦！
Dan Gediman This is the room where my brother began studying the great rhythm and blues singers, people like Al Green, Little Richard, Otis Redding, James Brown, and Tom Jones, who my brother thinks brings them all together.
丹·格迪曼 (Dan Gediman) 在这个房间里，我哥哥开始研究伟大的节奏和布鲁斯歌手，比如艾尔·格林 (Al Green)、小理查德 (Little Richard)、奥蒂斯·雷丁 (Otis Redding)、詹姆斯·布朗 (James Brown) 和汤姆·琼斯 (Tom Jones)，我哥哥认为是他们将他们聚集在一起。
Just at the beginning of What's New Pussycat, he goes, "What's!"
就在《新消息小猫咪》一开始，他就说：“什么！”
Right.
正确的。
Mark Gediman See?
马克·格迪曼 看到了吗？
Now, you're getting, now, right there with the what;s, you've got James Brown, "Wow!" You know?
现在，你现在就知道詹姆斯·布朗，“哇！”你知道？
Right.
正确的。
Mark Gediman And then you got Wilson Pickett, "Ah-Ow!" And then you got Ray Charles, "Mm, Oh!" You know?
马克·格迪曼（Mark Gediman）然后是威尔逊·皮克特（Wilson Pickett），“啊哦！”然后你听到雷·查尔斯，“嗯，哦！”你知道？
And then you've got like, "Yeah!" Then you get, "Uh!" and, "Ah!" and, "Hey!
然后你就会说：“是啊！”然后你就会“呃！” ”然后，“啊！并且，“嘿！
Hoy!
嘿！
Ah!
啊！
Ah-oh!
啊哦！
Ew-oh!
呃-哦！
Oh!
哦！
Mm!
嗯！
Mm!
嗯！
What's!" See?
什么啊！”看？
So that's there, you know?
所以就在那里，你知道吗？
I remember the first time I ever saw my brother perform.
我还记得第一次看哥哥表演的情景。
My parents took me to see him at a high school variety show when I was still in elementary school.
当我还在上小学的时候，我的父母带我去看他的高中综艺节目。
Now, nobody knew that I could sing.
现在，没有人知道我会唱歌。
But there was a band, the Blood, Sweat & Tears, and the first version of them with Al Cooper.
但有一支乐队，Blood, Sweat & Tears，以及他们与 Al Cooper 合作的第一个版本。
And there was a song on there called, "I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know", which is a real bluesy ballad.
那里有一首歌叫《我爱你胜过你所知道的》，这是一首真正的布鲁斯民谣。
And I used to sing that over, and over, and over again in this music room.
我曾经在这个音乐室里一遍又一遍地唱这首歌。
And so I ended up singing it.
所以我最终唱了它。
It was my first real performance, as me, in front of a stage, being the performer, like the Elvis or something.
这是我第一次真正的表演，作为我，在舞台前，作为表演者，就像猫王之类的。
And I can remember having this silky shirt on.
我记得我穿着这件丝质衬衫。
And I probably had my ID bracelet hanging.
我可能还挂着我的身份证手镯。
And I opened up my collar a little.
我稍微打开了衣领。
And it was quite an experience, as I recall.
我记得那是一次非常好的经历。
And I think I did fairly well.
我认为我做得相当好。
I still do.
我仍然这样做。
I really sold it out, you know?
我真的卖完了你知道吗？
I really started screaming there at the end.
最后我真的开始尖叫了。
I remember, by the end of the number, your shirt was virtually half off or something.
我记得，到了节目结束时，你的衬衫几乎已经减半了之类的。
That was my recollection.
那是我的回忆。
I was very impressed.
我印象非常深刻。
I'm sure it was the first time I ever saw you perform.
我确信这是我第一次看你表演。
I don't even remember that you were there.
我什至不记得你在那儿。
Oh, I was absolutely there.
哦，我绝对在那儿。
Mark Gediman Yeah?
马克·格迪曼 是吗？
Yeah, absolutely there.
是的，绝对在那里。
And I remember that very well.
我记得很清楚。
And mostly, of course, I remember you.
当然，最重要的是，我记得你。
I have a vivid memory of being on the playground behind my elementary school, trying to explain to the other kids that, the night before, my brother was this big star.
我清楚地记得前一天晚上，我在小学后面的操场上，试图向其他孩子解释，我的兄弟是一位大明星。
And I imitated you, singing the same song, which, of course, I had heard endlessly with you rehearsing it.
我模仿你，唱同一首歌，当然，在你排练的时候我听了没完没了。
And I still know the song.
我仍然知道这首歌。
And I went out and bought the record, by the way, about five years ago.
顺便说一句，大约五年前，我出去买了这张唱片。
And I have it.
我有它。
And the only reason I know that album is because of you.
我知道这张专辑的唯一原因是因为你。
But, I remember, I was imitating you complete with undoing my shirt.
但是，我记得，我是在模仿你解开衬衫。
I felt like a celebrity, even though the other kids didn't know it, because, god, my brother, he just did this thing.
我感觉自己像个名人，尽管其他孩子不知道，因为，上帝，我的兄弟，他就是做了这件事。
And so I was pretty impressed.
所以我印象很深刻。
If it's not clear by now, I idolized my brother.
如果现在还不清楚的话，我崇拜我的兄弟。
I used to sneak into his room when he wasn't home and look through his things, put on his clothes, smell his cologne.
我常常趁他不在家的时候偷偷溜进他的房间，翻看他的东西，穿上他的衣服，闻他的古龙水。
As a matter of fact, I still have a YMCA T-shirt that he used to wear when he was a counselor at Camp Beaver.
事实上，我还保留着一件他在海狸营当辅导员时穿过的 YMCA T 恤。
It's full of holes, almost a rag, but I'd never let it go.
它满是洞，几乎是一块破布，但我永远不会放开它。
And I've always followed his career in music because I was sure, especially after high school, that he was going to make the big-time.
我一直关注他的音乐生涯，因为我确信，尤其是高中毕业后，他会取得巨大成功。
And he almost did.
他几乎做到了。
His close calls with fame were many.
他曾多次与名声擦肩而过。
They proceeded to tell us that they were going to put something like a half a million dollars behind The Super Group.
他们接着告诉我们，他们将向超级集团投入大约 50 万美元。
And we were going to be the next Beatles or Monkeys.
我们将成为下一个披头士乐队或猴子乐队。
And I think, at the time, I was 21, I believe.
我想，当时我 21 岁，我相信。
And I'm just sitting there going, "Wow.
我只是坐在那里，“哇。
I made the big-time."
我取得了伟大的成就。”
And he actually said to me that, "I think you're the next Bruce Springsteen." He, at the time, was an A&R representative for Atlantic Records.
他实际上对我说，“我认为你是下一个布鲁斯·斯普林斯汀。”当时，他是大西洋唱片公司的 A&R 代表。
They said, "Listen, we want 50% of you." And I said, "Forget it." I started a band right after that called Alex Space and the Orbits.
他们说：“听着，我们想要你的 50%。”我说：“算了。”之后我组建了一支乐队，名为 Alex Space and the Orbits。
"We're going to take you to the top."
“我们会带你到山顶。”
I moved to another band now, called Flyer.
我现在搬到了另一个乐队，叫 Flyer。
That band was called Zippers Polite and the Ambassadors of Love.
那支乐队的名字叫“拉链礼貌和爱大使”。
It came to the point where every record company thought that the other record company was going to sign me.
到了每家唱片公司都认为另一家唱片公司会签下我的地步。
And, in effect, that I was going to be the next big thing.
事实上，我将成为下一个大人物。
There were articles written saying that I was going to be the next Kiss, and this, and that.
有文章说我将成为下一个 Kiss，还有这个、那个。
And Warner Brothers, they were going to have cartoons.
还有华纳兄弟，他们要制作动画片。
And even where they were talking about designing some sort of video pinball game, a real total marketing thing.
甚至他们正在谈论设计某种视频弹球游戏，这是一个真正的全面营销。
And I was so excited.
我很兴奋。
And we were a couple of weeks away from signing the contract when OPEC had a oil embargo in 1979.
1979 年，距离签署合同还有几周时间，欧佩克实施了石油禁运。
The price of plastic went up 400%.
塑料的价格上涨了400%。
And that was the end of my shot right there.
我的拍摄就到此结束了。
It just vanished before my eyes.
它就这样消失在我眼前。
We ended up getting them to sign us up for a booking contract.
我们最终让他们与我们签订了预订合同。
And then, one night, they came up to us.
然后，一天晚上，他们向我们走来。
And neither of these guys drank.
而且这两个人都没喝酒。
They had ulcers.
他们患有溃疡。
And they both walked around drinking a glass of milk.
他们俩一边走一边喝着一杯牛奶。
I remember, one day, they both walked up to me with a glass of milk, and they said, "Would you mind wearing an Elvis mask?"
我记得有一天，他们俩端着一杯牛奶走到我面前，说：“你介意戴上猫王面具吗？”
To make a long story short, the thing really kind of fell apart.
长话短说，事情真的有点崩溃了。
And, at this point, I really got just totally discouraged with the whole scene.
而且，在这一点上，我真的对整个场景感到完全沮丧。
And, in fact, I remember just feeling like that what I really had inside me wasn't coming out.
事实上，我记得我只是感觉我内心真正的东西并没有显露出来。
And I took this microphone-- I still have it to this day-- and I threw it up against the wall.
我拿起这个麦克风——直到今天我还保留着它——然后把它扔到墙上。
I don't know.
我不知道。
It's all smashed in.
都被砸进去了
I just left and never went back.
我就这样离开了，再也没有回去过。
I left everything I had that was related to music in that room, and just, basically, quit.
我把所有与音乐有关的东西都留在了那个房间里，然后基本上就退出了。
My brother left music completely for many years after this time, around 1984.
从那次之后，也就是 1984 年左右，我哥哥彻底离开了音乐界很多年。
For a while he dabbled with a little home recording setup trying to write some songs, but his heart wasn't in it.
有一段时间，他尝试使用小型家庭录音设备尝试写一些歌曲，但他的心不在其中。
He stopped going out to clubs, lost touch with most of his musician friends, didn't play, didn't perform, just left.
他不再去俱乐部，与大多数音乐家朋友失去联系，没有演奏，没有表演，就离开了。
Then, in 1991, seven years later, he discovered karaoke.
七年后的 1991 年，他发现了卡拉 OK。
I was sitting having dinner.
我正坐着吃晚饭。
And I heard this music in the lounge.
我在休息室听到了这种音乐。
And this chorus of women singing was beautiful.
这支女合唱团的歌声非常优美。
I said, "I have to go in and hear this group." And I went in there, and there's no group.
我说：“我得进去听听这群人的声音。”我进去了，没有人。
There's a guy who looks like he's sitting behind a keyboard.
有一个人看起来就像坐在键盘后面。
And he's got this big thing saying, "You are the star.
他有一件大事说：“你是明星。
"Sing the hits", or something like that.
“唱热门歌曲”，或者类似的东西。
And I'm looking up.
我抬头看。
And there's a video playing of follow the bouncing ball.
还有一段跟随弹跳球的视频正在播放。
I didn't know anything about karaoke.
我对卡拉OK一无所知。
And it just sounds fantastic.
听起来棒极了。
And I'm saying, "Jeez, all these years I've been sitting around trying to wait for the drummer to show up, or the bass player's having a nervous breakdown.
我说，“天哪，这些年来我一直坐着等待鼓手出现，或者贝斯手精神崩溃。
And here there's no band, they just have these laser disks.
这里没有乐队，他们只有这些激光盘。
They play the music and you just go up and sing.
他们演奏音乐，你只需上去唱歌。
Not only that, you don't even have to remember the words because they're showing you the words.
不仅如此，您甚至不必记住这些单词，因为它们正在向您展示这些单词。
They had a little monitor that faces up to you.
他们有一个面向你的小显示器。
I mean, this was a singer's delight.
我的意思是，这是歌手的乐趣。
It was heaven.
那是天堂。
After that, he was hooked.
从那以后，他就迷上了。
Mark Gediman At the height of my interest in karaoke, easily, I was going out all seven nights.
马克·格迪曼（Mark Gediman） 在我对卡拉 OK 兴趣最浓厚的时候，我很容易就连续七个晚上都在外面。
People loved him.
人们爱他。
He'd steal the show, knocking out the audience at bars all over the Boston area.
他会抢尽风头，让整个波士顿地区的酒吧里的观众都惊叹不已。
And he began winning contests.
他开始赢得比赛。
[APPLAUSE] Announcer All right, just take it.
[掌声] 播音员 好吧，就拿吧。
All right, just leave it right there.
好吧，就放在那里吧。
We have our five finalists standing over by the video monitor.
我们的五位决赛入围者站在视频监视器旁。
And, Billy Costa, all four judges have assembled and decided who the winner is going to be.
比利·科斯塔，所有四位评委已经聚集在一起并决定谁是获胜者。
Why don't you tell us who that is.
你为什么不告诉我们那人是谁呢？
Wait a minute.
等一下。
OK, I'll just do it through this.
好的，我就通过这个来完成。
I think it was unanimous.
我认为这是一致的。
The guy was spectacular, Alex Jones.
这个人很了不起，亚历克斯·琼斯。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "FALL IN LOVE" BY TOM JONES]
[音乐播放 - 汤姆·琼斯的《坠入爱河》]
How about a hand for our talented and fabulous Alex Jones, folks!
伙计们，为我们才华横溢、才华横溢的亚历克斯·琼斯伸出援手怎么样？
My brother had found his way back to music.
我哥哥又找到了回归音乐的道路。
But, this time, he was Tom Jones.
但是，这一次，他是汤姆·琼斯。
I feel authentic.
我感觉很真实。
I feel real.
我感觉很真实。
This is real.
这是真的。
So where are you at in your process here?
那么您现在处于流程的哪个阶段？
I like to put the leather pants on because it just feels good.
我喜欢穿上皮裤，因为感觉很好。
But I forgot one thing.
但我忘记了一件事。
I've got to put something in my pouch.
我得在我的袋子里放点东西。
The ladies love this.
女士们喜欢这个。
You've got to roll it up so it's just about that thick, and then you fold it over, OK?
你必须把它卷起来，这样它就那么厚，然后你把它折叠起来，好吗？
Uh-huh.
嗯嗯。
Mark Gediman And what you got there is a real peach.
马克·格迪曼（Mark Gediman） 你得到的是真正的桃子。
So now you're going to stuff this down the front of your leather pants?
那么现在你要把它塞到皮裤前面吗？
Absolutely.
绝对地。
Dan Gediman And this is for the?
Dan Gediman 这是为了？
Authenticity's sake.
真实性的缘故。
The next thing I do is I put a couple of belts with lots of metal on them because it just feels good.
接下来我要做的就是放几条带有大量金属的腰带，因为感觉很好。
[LAUGHS] It also keeps my pants up.
[笑]它还能让我的裤子保持向上。
OK, now I have to get the makeup on.
好吧，现在我得化妆了。
OK.
好的。
Can I follow you?
我可以跟着你吗？
Mark Gediman Oh, absolutely.
马克·格迪曼 哦，当然。
OK.
好的。
Mark Gediman Absolutely.
马克·格迪曼 绝对的。
I don't have the ruffled shirts.
我没有荷叶边衬衫。
They're all at the cleaners.
他们都在清洁工那里。
Yeah, I don't have time to pick up another, so that's the best I can do.
是的，我没有时间去接另一个，所以这是我能做的最好的事情。
It's kind of got that look a bit.
看起来有点像。
See?
看？
That's what I have under.
这就是我所拥有的。
But over, as I'll show you later, I have a nice sequined tux that I put over all of this.
但是，正如我稍后将向您展示的那样，我有一件漂亮的亮片礼服，我把它放在所有这些上面。
And I kind of take a couple of things off.
我有点去掉一些东西。
I see, OK.
我明白了，好吧。
Mark Gediman Because I get real hot, you know what I mean?
马克·格迪曼 因为我真的很热，你知道我的意思吗？
OK, got to have rings and bangles and bongles.
好吧，必须有戒指、手镯和手镯。
I got the big cross because he always had the big cross.
我得到了大十字架，因为他总是有大十字架。
So now what I have to do first is tie up me own hair.
所以现在我要做的第一件事就是把我自己的头发扎起来。
Oh, I forgot.
哦，我忘了。
Also got to put the mascara on the chest hair.
还得把睫毛膏涂在胸毛上。
When he was done, my brother was transformed.
当他完成后，我的兄弟就变了。
Not exactly Tom Jones, but close enough and ready to go.
不完全是汤姆琼斯，但足够接近并准备好出发。
Five minutes late ain't no problem when Tom Jones is in the house.
当汤姆·琼斯在家里时，迟到五分钟不是问题。
[APPLAUSE] Yeah!
[鼓掌] 是啊！
[WHOOPS] Mark Gediman Thank you.
[哎呀]马克·格迪曼谢谢你。
My brother and I go to a gig outside Boston where some company's holding its employee appreciation party.
我和我的兄弟去波士顿郊外参加演出，那里有一家公司正在举办员工答谢会。
Any pussycats out there?
那里有小猫吗？
Do I hear any meows?
我听到猫叫声了吗？
It's in a function room next to a hotel restaurant, Bumbershoot's, Rockingham's, or something like that.
它位于酒店餐厅、Bumbershoot's、Rockingham's 或类似餐厅旁边的多功能厅。
Oh, yeah.
哦，是的。
Meow.
喵。
Yes.
是的。
[SINGING - "WHAT'S NEW PUSSYCAT?" AS TOM JONES]
[唱歌-“小猫有什么新东西吗？”作为汤姆·琼斯]
The night before this, my brother told me, he'd performed at a Chinese restaurant.
前一天晚上，我哥哥告诉我，他在一家中餐馆表演了。
And after his finale, the whole place, all the guests and the waiters, even the stagehands, they all stood up and gave him a standing ovation.
在他的结局结束后，整个场地，所有的客人和服务员，甚至舞台工作人员，他们都站了起来，为他起立鼓掌。
He said it was like being in a movie.
他说这就像在看电影一样。
[SINGING- "WITHOUT LOVE" AS TOM JONES]
[演唱-《没有爱》，饰演汤姆·琼斯]
A few months after I interviewed him, my brother got laid off from his computer job.
在我采访他几个月后，我哥哥的计算机工作被解雇了。
My parents told me they were pretty worried about him.
我的父母告诉我他们非常担心他。
Now he's playing the stock market, trying to parlay his retirement money into a nest egg that will carry him for a while until he makes it big with his Tom Jones act.
现在他正在股市上玩，试图将退休金变成一笔储蓄，这笔钱可以支撑他一段时间，直到他凭借汤姆·琼斯的表演而大获成功。
While my brother performed, I circulated through the room talking to people.
当我哥哥表演时，我在房间里走动，与人们交谈。
Yeah, this guy is just very good.
是啊，这家伙真是太好了。
He's very good.
他非常好。
He's pretty close?
他很接近吗？
Woman I thought he was very close.
女人我以为他很亲密。
If I didn't meet him in the hallway and know otherwise, I would have questioned was this really the Tom Jones?
如果我没有在走廊遇见他并且知道其他情况，我会怀疑这真的是汤姆·琼斯吗？
I didn't tell anyone that Alex Jones was my brother.
我没有告诉任何人亚历克斯·琼斯是我的兄弟。
I just asked them what they thought of him.
我只是问他们对他的看法。
He's got a great voice, a really great voice.
他的声音很好听，非常好听。
He does.
他做到了。
He's good.
他很好。
I can make sure that he gives you his card.
我可以确保他给你他的名片。
Yeah, I would.
是的，我愿意。
I'd like to have his card.
我想要他的卡。
I wanted to hear that he was making them happy.
我想听他说他让他们开心。
I wanted him to succeed.
我希望他成功。
I wanted to help him get more work.
我想帮助他找到更多工作。
I wanted to hear that they loved him.
我想听听他们爱他。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "FALL IN LOVE" ALEX JONES SINGING TOM JONES]
[音乐播放 - “坠入爱河”亚历克斯·琼斯唱汤姆·琼斯]
Dan Gediman's story about his brother was produced by Jay Allison with consulting producer Christina Eckhoff.
丹·格迪曼关于他兄弟的故事由杰伊·艾利森和咨询制片人克里斯蒂娜·埃克霍夫共同制作。
And it comes from Jay's series, Life Stories , which was produced with funds from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the National Endowment for the Arts.
它来自杰伊的系列剧《生活故事》，该剧由公共广播公司和国家艺术基金会资助制作。
Dan and Jay are currently working on an upcoming series for NPR called, This I Believe .
Dan 和 Jay 目前正在为 NPR 制作一个即将推出的系列节目，名为“This I Believe”。
Their website for that, thisibelieve.org.
他们的网站是 thisibelie.org。
Alex Jones can be hired to work as Tom Jones at private parties and corporate events, but he's working on a CD of his own music under the name Alex Space Jones.
亚历克斯·琼斯（Alex Jones）可以被雇佣在私人聚会和公司活动中扮演汤姆·琼斯（Tom Jones），但他正在以亚历克斯·斯派斯·琼斯（Alex Space Jones）的名义制作自己的音乐 CD。
Coming up, other strategies to keep music in your life, if traditional music careers don't fly, from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International when our program continues.
当我们的节目继续进行时，如果传统音乐事业不顺利，芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将提供其他让音乐留在你生活中的策略。
It's This American Life, I'm Ira Glass.
这就是美国生活，我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program we choose a theme and bring you a wide variety of stories, documentaries, radio monologues, reportage, found tapes and found documents, which is what I have right here in front of me.
我们的节目每周都会选择一个主题，为您带来各种各样的故事、纪录片、广播独白、报告文学、找到的磁带和找到的文件，这就是我面前的内容。
Our theme today, stories about people who you could say this about.
我们今天的主题是关于你可以这样说的人的故事。
When you talk about music, your face becomes beautiful.
当你谈论音乐时，你的脸变得美丽。
Aha.
啊哈。
And, of course, not everybody agrees about this beauty.
当然，并不是每个人都同意这种美丽。
Some people do not find it touching or inspiring to see people who love music.
有些人并不觉得看到热爱音乐的人感到感动或鼓舞。
In fact, there are people who believe that loving music is a crisis of global proportions.
事实上，有人认为热爱音乐是一场全球性的危机。
And the document I hold in my hands is an advertisement, a call to arms really, from Motorbooty, a zine, a pretty great zine.
我手里拿着的文件是一份广告，实际上是来自《Motorbooty》的一份武装号召，一本杂志，一本非常棒的杂志。
And it's an advertisement for the First Annual Conference on World Band Population, on stopping the crisis of world band overpopulation, specifically.
这是第一届世界乐队人口年会的广告，特别是关于阻止世界乐队人口过剩危机的广告。
Says this ad, "According to recent studies, by the year 2001 there will be more people in bands than the global economy can ever hope to support.
这则广告称：“根据最近的研究，到 2001 年，乐队人数将超出全球经济所能支持的数量。
The US Census Bureau puts the current number of audience members to band members at a ratio of 2:1.
美国人口普查局目前的观众人数与乐队成员的比例为2：1。
The present trends threatened to reverse this relationship, disrupting the delicate balance between performers and normal people.
当前的趋势有可能扭转这种关系，破坏表演者和普通人之间的微妙平衡。
Soon, not only will virtually everyone be in a band, but everyone in a band will be involved in several side projects, creating a glut of virtually indistinguishable groups of guitar-wielding miscreants who, when not performing their so-called music, will be endlessly talking about it to anyone unable to flee."
很快，不仅几乎每个人都会加入乐队，而且乐队中的每个人都将参与几个副业项目，从而形成大量几乎无法区分的挥舞吉他的恶棍团体，他们在不演奏所谓的音乐时，将无休止地向任何无法逃离的人谈论它。”
And then the ad explains what's going to happen at the conference.
然后广告解释了会议上将发生的事情。
The seminars dealing with the imminent dangers of band overpopulation, Legal Strategies for Achieving Zero Band Population Growth, Private Sector Initiatives for Ending Band Growth, Strategies for Ending Multiple Band Membership.
研讨会涉及族群人口过多的迫在眉睫的危险、实现族群人口零增长的法律策略、结束族群增长的私营部门倡议、结束多族群成员身份的策略。
Here's some of the things that they suggest can be done to combat this global crisis, let's see, three-strikes-and-you're-out rules; creating stiff criminal penalties for artists who release more than three full-length albums per career; waiting periods for instrument purchasers to allow for mandatory background checks for prior infractions, and a cooling-off period to discourage thoughtless and impulsive band formation; stiff fines for bands that imitate other bands; civil infractions for air bands, and an all-out ban on cover bands.
以下是他们建议可以采取的一些措施来应对这场全球危机，让我们看看，三振出局规则；对每个职业生涯发行三张以上完整专辑的艺术家实行严厉的刑事处罚；仪器购买者的等待期，以便对先前的违规行为进行强制性背景调查，以及冷静期，以阻止轻率和冲动的乐队形成；对模仿其他乐队的乐队进行严厉罚款；空中乐队的民事违规行为，以及全面禁止翻唱乐队。
They also suggest-- let's see-- boycotting labels that refuse to stop signing additional bands as well as cracking down on pointless, local, so-called, indie labels; finally, supporting random band testing by employers, especially in high-risk businesses like coffee shops, copy shops, cafes, bars, and record stores.
他们还建议——让我们看看——抵制那些拒绝停止签约更多乐队的唱片公司，以及打击毫无意义的、本地的、所谓的独立唱片公司；最后，支持雇主进行随机频段测试，特别是在咖啡店、复印店、咖啡馆、酒吧和唱片店等高风险企业。
Well, given the crisis of global band population explosion, perhaps the only honorable course for all of us is to forget about performing and just put that energy into being members of the audience.
好吧，考虑到全球乐队人口爆炸的危机，也许对我们所有人来说唯一值得尊敬的做法就是忘记表演，而将精力投入到成为观众中。
And what we present next on our program, as Act Three, is a case example of how to do exactly that.
我们接下来在节目中展示的第三幕，就是一个如何做到这一点的案例。
This is the Fastbacks, a pop, punk band from Seattle that's been around for years, actually.
这就是 Fastbacks，一支来自西雅图的流行朋克乐队，实际上已经存在多年了。
And the story you're about to hear is not about being in a semi-obscure but well-respected band, it's about being a fan of a semi-obscure but well-respected band.
你将要听到的故事并不是关于加入一个半默默无闻但备受尊敬的乐队，而是关于成为一个半默默无闻但备受尊敬的乐队的粉丝。
Sarah Vowell is a writer and a music columnist for the San Francisco Weekly , and she tells the story.
莎拉·沃威尔是《旧金山周刊》的作家和音乐专栏作家，她讲述了这个故事。
Sometimes, opening your mail can be a little like listening to the radio.
有时，打开邮件有点像听广播。
You're not paying attention, just absent-mindedly flipping through the letters and bills, and then, wham, some little surprise comes out of nowhere and changes your day.
你没有集中注意力，只是心不在焉地翻阅信件和账单，然后，突然，一些小惊喜突然出现，改变了你的一天。
I got this package.
我收到了这个包裹。
Inside was a letter, thanking me for mentioning the Fastbacks in a book review I had written, not from one of the Fastbacks themselves, mind you, just some guy in Chicago.
里面有一封信，感谢我在我写的书评中提到了快背队，请注意，不是快背队本身，而是芝加哥的某个人。
His name was Scott Lee, and he'd enclosed this xerox booklet about the band.
他的名字叫斯科特·李，他附上了这本关于乐队的复印小册子。
Flipping through it, I stopped cold at something called, "The Fastback's Drummers Pie Chart".
翻阅它，我对一个叫做“快背鼓手饼图”的东西感到冷淡。
Since they formed in 1979, the Fastbacks have gone through about a dozen drummers.
自 1979 年成立以来，Fastbacks 已经更换了大约十几名鼓手。
And this pie chart identifies the drummers by name, listing the percentage of songs which each one has contributed to.
这个饼图按名字标识了鼓手，列出了每个鼓手贡献的歌曲的百分比。
But, at the bottom of the page, small print warns, "Note, Rusty and Nate's shares may not be totally accurate.
但是，在页面底部，小字警告说：“请注意，Rusty 和 Nate 的份额可能并不完全准确。
Their percentages may be approximately 0.68% off." And I don't think a decimal point had ever struck me as endearing before.
他们的折扣比例可能约为 0.68%。”我认为小数点以前从来没有让我觉得可爱过。
The drastic exactitude of 0.68% sort of captured my heart, and I had to meet this person.
0.68% 的极端精确度有点俘获了我的心，我不得不见见这个人。
Basically, it has your standard discography.
基本上，它有您的标准唱片目录。
And then there's just some facts here that I dug out, 139 total songs, eight hours, 25 minutes, 43 seconds worth of songs.
然后我发现了一些事实，总共 139 首歌曲，相当于 8 小时 25 分 43 秒的歌曲。
So he showed me other stats, like total recorded versions of songs, total number of seconds of songs, which is 30,343, in case you were wondering.
所以他向我展示了其他统计数据，比如歌曲的总录制版本、歌曲的总秒数，如果你想知道的话，这是 30,343 秒。
--shortest song, shortest instrumental song, shortest song with vocals, the longest song, and the longest song without a drum solo.
--最短的歌曲、最短的器乐歌曲、最短的人声歌曲、最长的歌曲、最长的无鼓独奏歌曲。
That's only because--
那只是因为——
I was stunned.
我惊呆了。
I mean, I thought I liked the band.
我的意思是，我以为我喜欢这个乐队。
And, normally, as a music lover and as a woman, I rail against the mostly-male, record-collector geek habit of reducing rock and roll to baseball card collecting.
而且，通常情况下，作为一名音乐爱好者和一名女性，我反对大多数男性的唱片收藏极客将摇滚乐简化为收集棒球卡的习惯。
They flatten out this complex, thrilling thing down to manageable lists of names and titles and dates.
他们将这个复杂、令人兴奋的事情简化为可管理的姓名、头衔和日期列表。
But Scott Lee's Fastbacks tribute has the devotional fervour of a medieval illuminated manuscript.
但斯科特·李 (Scott Lee) 向《快背》致敬的作品却有着中世纪泥金手稿般的虔诚热情。
The list of facts and figures is so relentless and exact and painstaking that it takes on this liturgical glow, as if the Fastbacks were a religion and Scott Lee its prophet.
事实和数据的清单是如此无情、精确和艰苦，以至于它呈现出这种礼拜仪式的光芒，就好像快背队是一种宗教，而斯科特·李是它的先知。
But some of the new additions to this-- as I ramble here-- listed out the songs A through Z and did the percentages of songs starting with each letter.
但其中一些新添加的内容（正如我在这里闲聊的那样）列出了从 A 到 Z 的歌曲，并计算了以每个字母开头的歌曲的百分比。
And the letter that won was I.
获胜的信是我。
There were 19 Fastback songs that started with I, representing about 14% of the songs.
以 I 开头的 Fastback 歌曲有 19 首，约占歌曲总数的 14%。
With every album, they seem to have a song that starts with, "In", like, "In America", "In The Summer", "In The Winter", "In The Observatory".
每张专辑中，他们似乎都有一首以“In”开头的歌曲，例如“In America”、“In The Summer”、“In The Winter”、“In The Observatory”。
I soon found out that the band has befriended Scott Lee and that they've sort of informally appointed him their de-facto archivist.
我很快发现乐队已经与斯科特·李成了朋友，并且他们非正式地任命他为事实上的档案管理员。
Singer Kim Warnick corresponds with Scott via email, sometimes, like four times a day.
歌手金·沃尼克（Kim Warnick）有时会通过电子邮件与斯科特通信，比如一天四次。
Guitarist and songwriter, Kurt Bloch, graciously calls him "A good person to have on our team." Though, when he first saw Scott Lee's packet, he had some understandable worries.
吉他手兼作曲家库尔特·布洛赫 (Kurt Bloch) 亲切地称他为“我们团队中的一个好人”。不过，当他第一次看到斯科特·李的包裹时，他有一些可以理解的担忧。
Ah!
啊!
I mean, it was like, boy.
我的意思是，就像，男孩。
The first thing that would come to my mind is, is this guy really scary?
我第一个想到的就是，这个人真的很可怕吗？
Is he the kind of person I would run away from, if he was ever in the same room?
如果他和我共处一室，我会逃避他吗？
Is this the kind of person that I would stop answering my telephone if he called?
这是那种只要他打电话我就不接电话的人吗？
And, no, it's not.
而且，不，不是。
Not to make you think that we don't think Scott Lee is actually fairly crazy of a person, but he's not the annoying kind of crazy person that you read about.
并不是让你认为我们认为斯科特·李实际上并不是一个相当疯狂的人，但他并不是你读到的那种令人讨厌的疯狂人。
And I think he appreciates his own over-the-top-ness.
我认为他很欣赏自己的过分行为。
If anything, the Fastbacks are a little protective of Scott Lee.
如果说有什么不同的话，那就是快背队对斯科特·李有一点保护。
When I was talking to Kurt, I jokingly called Scott his stalker.
当我和科特交谈时，我开玩笑地称斯科特为他的跟踪者。
But he set me straight.
但他让我直了心。
No, he's not a stalker.
不，他不是跟踪狂。
He's a super-fan.
他是一个超级粉丝。
Oh, a super-fan?
哦，超级粉丝？
Kurt Bloch Yeah.
库尔特·布洛赫 是的。
Stalker, that has negative connotations.
跟踪者，有负面含义。
Yeah, that's something we don't need.
是的，那是我们不需要的东西。
Super-fan is fine.
超级粉丝就好了
Like the super-fan, the members of the Fastbacks all have day jobs.
和超级粉丝一样，快背队的成员都有日常工作。
So, on any given day, it's possible that Scott is devoting more energy to being a fan than the Fastbacks devote to being in the band.
因此，在任何一天，斯科特作为粉丝投入的精力可能比 Fastbacks 在乐队中投入的精力还要多。
When I interviewed Kim, the gaping differences between being a band member and being a super-fan were never clearer.
当我采访 Kim 时，作为乐队成员和作为超级粉丝之间的巨大差异从未如此清晰。
OK.
好的。
Sarah Vowell How many total songs, before the new album, New Mansions in Sound , have the Fastbacks recorded?
Sarah Vowell 在新专辑《New Mansions in Sound》之前，Fastbacks 总共录制了多少首歌曲？
What is it, now?
现在是什么？
Sarah Vowell How many total songs have the Fastbacks recorded?
莎拉·沃威尔 Fastbacks 总共录制了多少首歌曲？
Well, you know, unfortunately, I don't have something in front of me that could answer that question.
嗯，你知道，不幸的是，我面前没有任何东西可以回答这个问题。
Really?
真的吗？
OK.
好的。
I have to say it is 127.
我不得不说是127。
And I was wondering also if you knew the median song length?
我还想知道你是否知道歌曲长度的中位数？
The what?
什么？
Sarah Vowell Well, let's start with an easier one.
莎拉·沃威尔：好吧，让我们从一个更简单的开始。
What do you think is the average length of a Fastbacks song?
您认为 Fastbacks 歌曲的平均长度是多少？
She doesn't know.
她不知道。
But, according to Scott, it's two minutes, 51 seconds.
但是，根据斯科特的说法，只有两分 51 秒。
When I visit Scott Lee's house on Chicago's north side, his roommate lets me in.
当我参观斯科特·李位于芝加哥北侧的家时，他的室友让我进去。
Scott's playing his guitar along with the new Fastbacks album.
斯科特在 Fastbacks 的新专辑中弹奏吉他。
His room is decorated with Fastbacks posters.
他的房间装饰着 Fastbacks 海报。
And Scott himself wears a Fastbacks T-shirt.
Scott 本人也穿着 Fastbacks T 恤。
He shows me this incredibly complex chart he's working on, a sort of family tree to the Seattle music scene, a town, by the way, which he has only visited once.
他向我展示了他正在制作的这张极其复杂的图表，这是西雅图音乐界的家谱，顺便说一句，这是一个小镇，他只去过一次。
The producers of This American Life would like me to say here that, when Scott talks about the Fastbacks, he becomes beautiful because that would go along with the first piece in the show today.
《美国生活》的制片人想让我在这里说，当斯科特谈论快背车时，他变得很漂亮，因为这与今天节目中的第一部分相匹配。
But I would never say something so corny.
但我绝不会说这么老套的话。
When do you think you made the switch between just being a listener and being, as Kurt Bloch called you today, a super-fan?
你认为你什么时候在倾听者和库尔特·布洛赫今天所说的“超级粉丝”之间做出了转变？
I think the transition really happened when I was in law school, and I had made this tape of my favorite Fastbacks songs.
我认为这种转变确实发生在我在法学院的时候，我制作了这盘我最喜欢的 Fastbacks 歌曲的磁带。
And I was walking across a very icy, cold midway in Buffalo.
我正在布法罗的中途走过冰冷的地方。
And, despite how cold it was, when I listened to this music, it really just pumped all this life into me.
而且，尽管天气有多冷，当我听这首音乐时，它真的让我的生命充满了活力。
It was really a life-affirming experience, as corny as that might sound.
这确实是一次肯定生命的经历，尽管听起来很老套。
But, I don't know, I was just really happy at that point.
但我不知道，我当时真的很高兴。
And it was just a light on me that shown.
这只是我身上的一盏灯。
And I hadn't seen it before.
我以前没见过。
And now everything seemed better.
现在一切似乎都更好了。
When you show this info packet to people, what is usually their reaction?
当你向人们展示这个信息包时，他们通常会有什么反应？
I think the first question I always hear is, "Do you have a lot of spare time?"
我想我总是听到的第一个问题是“你有很多空闲时间吗？”
In fact, Scott's spare time is limited.
事实上，斯科特的业余时间是有限的。
He holds down a full-time job at a Chicago advertising agency, and he writes his own songs.
他在芝加哥一家广告公司有一份全职工作，自己写歌。
And, truthfully, he flirts with the idea of not staying a fan.
而且，说实话，他也有不再是粉丝的念头。
He's moving to Seattle, partly to be closer to the Fastbacks.
他要搬到西雅图，部分原因是为了离快背队更近。
He's actually in their circle of friends now.
他现在确实在他们的朋友圈里了。
And he's tried a couple of times to start his own band.
他曾多次尝试组建自己的乐队。
Once, he was invited on-stage with Kurt to play along with the song.
有一次，他受邀与库尔特一起上台演奏这首歌。
It was exciting.
这很令人兴奋。
But he's left-handed.
但他是左撇子。
And they didn't have a left-handed guitar for him.
他们没有给他准备左手吉他。
So it was sort of a disaster, not the moment a super-fan dreams of.
所以这有点像一场灾难，而不是超级粉丝梦想的时刻。
So, in this show, what happens is someone tells their little story and then we play a song.
所以，在这个节目中，发生的事情是有人讲述他们的小故事，然后我们播放一首歌。
So you get to pick which Fastbacks song gets to play at the end of your story.
因此，您可以选择在故事结束时播放哪一首 Fastbacks 歌曲。
At the end of my story?
在我的故事的最后？
Whew.
呼。
[LAUGHS] I'd probably say, "Save Room For Me", then.
[笑]那么我可能会说，“为我留点空间”。
Because I've definitely saved room for the Fastbacks, so, "Save Room For Me".
因为我确实为快背车节省了空间，所以“为我节省空间”。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "SAVE ROOM FOR ME" BY FASTBACKS]
[音乐播放 - Fastbacks 的“为我节省空间”]
Sarah Vowell, our contributing editor and the voice of teenage superhero, Violet Parr, in Pixar's new movie, The Incredibles.
莎拉·沃威尔 (Sarah Vowell)，我们的特约编辑，也是皮克斯新电影《超人总动员》中青少年超级英雄维奥莱特·帕尔 (Violet Parr) 的配音。
Act Four, A Life in Music.
第四幕，音乐人生。
Sam Franco's 72 and has spent his life playing and teaching the accordion.
Sam Franco 现年 72 岁，一生都在演奏和教授手风琴。
And the thing to know about him is he hates accordion music, most of it, anyway.
关于他，要了解的是他讨厌手风琴音乐，至少是大部分。
The sound of the accordion, we don't associate ourselves with too much, is like this.
手风琴的声音，我们不会过多联想，就是这样。
[ACCORDIAN PLAYING] Sam Franco See?
[手风琴演奏] Sam Franco 看到了吗？
I haven't done that for years.
我已经很多年没有这样做了。
It's hard for me to even play a regular style.
对我来说，甚至演奏常规风格都很难。
Well, the other way it swings.
好吧，它以另一种方式摆动。
[LAUGHS] It swings with the one finger.
[笑]它用一根手指摆动。
And I get a jazz sound, like this.
我听到爵士乐的声音，就像这样。
Watch.
手表。
[ACCORDIAN PLAYING] Ira Glass Sam Franco hates that accordion oom-pah beat.
[手风琴演奏] Ira Glass Sam Franco 讨厌手风琴的 oom-pah 节拍。
He doesn't like the normal Lawrence Welk chord progressions.
他不喜欢正常的劳伦斯·韦尔克和弦进行。
In his music, he changes them into jazz chord progressions.
在他的音乐中，他将它们改为爵士和弦进行。
And, where normal accordion players use lots of chords all over the place, he prefers to play single notes.
而且，普通手风琴演奏者到处使用大量和弦，而他更喜欢演奏单个音符。
In his head, when he plays, Sam hears Coleman Hawkins and other jazz greats.
当山姆演奏时，他的脑海中会听到科尔曼·霍金斯和其他爵士乐巨星的声音。
He invented this style.
他发明了这种风格。
And, if you check the Chicago Yellow Pages for jazz accordion, Sam is the only listing.
而且，如果您检查芝加哥黄页上的爵士手风琴，Sam 是唯一的列表。
[ACCORDIAN PLAYING] All this hour we've heard from people who want to make their living, full-time, from their music.
[手风琴演奏] 整整一个小时，我们都听到有人想全职靠音乐谋生。
They dream and strive for that.
他们梦想并为此奋斗。
Sam's done it all his life, playing gigs, working, never getting famous, though.
萨姆一生都在这样做，演出、工作，但从未成名。
You know what saved me?
你知道是什么救了我吗？
That I had the knack for teaching.
我有教学的诀窍。
You understand?
你明白吗？
That was my ace-in-the-hole, would be the teaching part.
这是我的王牌，也是教学部分。
If I didn't have that, I would be out of the music business completely.
如果我没有这个，我就会完全退出音乐行业。
He's watched players who weren't any better than him get a lot of attention, get notoriety, get more gigs.
他目睹了那些并不比他优秀的球员得到了很多关注，变得声名狼藉，获得了更多的演出机会。
And, in the end, he decided he doesn't care.
最后，他决定不在乎。
That life doesn't suit him.
这样的生活不适合他。
You couldn't pay mortgages, buy a house, on playing because you played one night.
你无法支付抵押贷款，买房子，因为你玩了一晚。
That's it.
就是这样。
How would you like to go look for a job every week?
你愿意每周都去找工作吗？
And that's what it amounted to.
这就是它的意义。
I never did have that kind of energy.
我从来没有那样的能量。
[ACCORDIAN PLAYING] Ira Glass Most of the people who Sam started playing with back when he was a kid did not stay with music.
[手风琴演奏] Ira Glass Sam 小时候开始一起演奏的大多数人都没有停留在音乐上。
Back when Sam began, accordion was huge, huge.
当 Sam 开始工作时，手风琴非常非常大。
Every band in Chicago had an accordionist doing their keyboards because pianos, in those days, were so impractical, you know?
芝加哥的每个乐队都有一名手风琴手演奏键盘，因为当时的钢琴非常不实用，你知道吗？
You can't carry them around.
你不能随身携带它们。
The one that you find at the hall is always out of tune.
你在大厅里找到的那首总是跑调的。
But that era did not last.
但那个时代并没有持续下去。
When Elvis hit in the late '50s and rock and roll followed, accordion business died.
当猫王在 50 年代末流行并且摇滚乐随之而来时，手风琴生意就消亡了。
Nobody hired them.
没有人雇用他们。
Nobody wanted to take lessons.
没有人愿意上课。
And lots of guys who Sam played and taught with quit the music business.
许多与 Sam 一起演奏和教学的人都退出了音乐事业。
Sam had always played guitar too.
萨姆也一直弹吉他。
And he was actually one of the few people in his crowd who made the jump from the swing era to the rock era.
他实际上是人群中为数不多的从摇摆乐时代跳到摇滚乐时代的人之一。
These days, he jokes that every brick of his house was paid for by rock and roll.
这些天，他开玩笑说他房子的每一块砖都是用摇滚乐买来的。
A big poster of electric guitarist, Randy Rhoads, is the biggest thing in his music room.
一张电吉他手 Randy Rhoads 的大海报是他音乐室里最大的东西。
He taught lessons for years on the guitar.
他教授吉他课程多年。
But Sam still views the guitar as an inferior instrument.
但萨姆仍然认为吉他是一种低劣的乐器。
He can lecture you for a long time on how it's not in the symphony orchestra.
他可以给你讲很长一段时间，告诉你交响乐团里没有什么。
Basically, in his view, America's 40-year love affair with the guitar is a concerted effort to slap back at the accordion.
在他看来，美国四十年来对吉他的热爱基本上是对手风琴的共同努力。
Because everybody's mother and father played the accordion.
因为每个人的父母都会拉手风琴。
And they said, we're not going to play it, you know?
他们说，我们不会玩这个游戏，你知道吗？
We're going to play something different.
我们要玩一些不同的东西。
And there it was.
就在那里。
It just came out as a rebel cause, I think.
我认为这只是作为一种反叛原因而出现的。
It only has five notes, a set of six strings.
它只有五个音符，一套六根弦。
Two are the same, so it brings it down to five notes, you know?
两个是相同的，所以它可以减少到五个音符，你知道吗？
You have to hit it with a pick.
你必须用镐击中它。
You've got to use two hands to make one note.
你必须用两只手才能做一张笔记。
Does that make sense?
这有道理吗？
Why would you want to do that?
你为什么要这么做？
Why would you want to use two hands to make one note?
为什么要用两只手写一张笔记？
[ACCORDIAN PLAYING] Ira Glass I met Sam through one of his students, Catherine Boyd, who totally adores Sam, has known him for years and says that, whatever goes on in Sam's life, he's always happy when he's talking about music.
[手风琴演奏] Ira Glass 我是通过 Sam 的一位学生 Catherine Boyd 认识他的，Catherine Boyd 非常崇拜 Sam，认识他很多年了，她说，无论 Sam 的生活发生什么，当他谈论音乐时他总是很高兴。
And the most surprising thing Sam told me when we talked is that it took him a long time before he was completely at peace with the way he plays.
当我们谈话时，萨姆告诉我的最令人惊讶的事情是，他花了很长时间才完全适应自己的比赛方式。
He started playing accordion when he was 10.
他10岁时开始演奏手风琴。
He's 72 now.
他现在72岁了。
He played accordions back in the old neighborhood on Taylor Street as a kid.
小时候，他在泰勒街的老街区拉手风琴。
He found his way to the jazz sound that he loves by high school.
他在高中时就找到了自己喜欢的爵士乐。
He played in USO shows during World War II.
第二次世界大战期间，他参加了 USO 演出。
He taught and gigged for the next half century.
在接下来的半个世纪里，他一直在教学和演出。
But he says he never felt good about his playing until he was in his '50s.
但他说直到 50 多岁时他才对自己的演奏感到满意。
Up until that point, the sound that he heard in his head wasn't what was coming out of the instrument.
直到那时，他脑海中听到的声音并不是从乐器中发出的。
In his '50s, he said, he just stopped worrying about what people would say about his playing.
他说，在他 50 多岁的时候，他不再担心人们会如何评价他的演奏。
He just played.
他刚刚玩过。
I'd like to say this, is that I never enjoyed playing as much as I do today.
我想说的是，我从来没有像今天这样享受比赛。
In all my days, I never enjoyed playing as much as I do now.
在我一生中，我从来没有像现在这样享受过比赛。
So, why is that?
那么，这是为什么呢？
Ask me why.
问我为什么。
Why is that?
这是为什么？
Sam Franco Yeah, why is that?
萨姆·弗兰科 是啊，为什么呢？
Because, today, I know what I can do.
因为，今天，我知道我能做什么。
I know my limitations, and I know my abilities.
我知道自己的局限性，也知道自己的能力。
Like, if I can't do it, I say who cares, you know?
就像，如果我做不到，我说谁在乎，你知道吗？
I can do something else.
我可以做点别的事。
But, when I was younger, I knew my limitations.
但是，当我年轻的时候，我知道自己的局限性。
Of course, we all know our limitations, and that bothers you.
当然，我们都知道自己的局限性，这让您感到困扰。
But, today, it doesn't bother me.
但是，今天，这并不困扰我。
[ACCORDIAN PLAYING] Ira Glass Today, in his music room, surrounded by his instruments, with one of his favorite students, Catherine, egging him on during our interview, Sam couldn't seem happier, really.
[手风琴演奏] Ira Glass 今天，在他的音乐室里，周围都是他的乐器，他最喜欢的学生之一凯瑟琳在我们的采访中怂恿他，萨姆看起来真的很高兴。
[ACCORDIAN PLAYING] Credits Ira Glass Well, our program was produced today by Nancy Updike and myself with Peter Clowney and Alix Spiegel.
[手风琴演奏] 鸣谢 Ira Glass 嗯，今天我们的节目是由 Nancy Updike 和我本人以及 Peter Clowney 和 Alix Spiegel 制作的。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] Our website, www.thisamericanlife.org, where you can listen to our programs for absolutely free or buy CDs of them.
[致谢] 我们的网站 www.thisamericanlife.org，您可以在其中完全免费收听我们的节目或购买其中的 CD。
Or you can download audio of our program at audible.com/thisamericanlife, where they have public radio programs, bestselling books, even The New York Times all at audible.com
或者您可以在 audible.com/thisamericanlife 下载我们节目的音频，那里有公共广播节目、畅销书，甚至纽约时报都在 audible.com
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Mr. Torey Malatia, who is staring in your eyes right this second when he says--
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理监督由 Torey Malatia 先生负责，他此刻正盯着你的眼睛说——
When you talk about music, your face becomes beautiful.
当你谈论音乐时，你的脸变得美丽。
Yes, it does.
是的，确实如此。
And we'll be back in your face next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带着更多关于《美国生活》的故事再次出现在你们面前。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。