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00:00 00:00 文字记录 分享此 美国生活 生活伙伴 如何收听 剧集 推荐 关于 概述 员工公告 奖学金 工作 音乐 在路上制作电台 常见问题解答 提交 商品 联系我们 我们的其他节目 商品 关注我们 生活伙伴 订阅我们的时事通讯 整集 切换音频和文字记录同步 文字记录 | 内容第 302 集 | 2005 年 11 月 18 日 302:陌生土地上的陌生人 注:《美国生活》是为耳朵而制作的,旨在让人们听到。
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Prologue Ira Glass The strangest thing about Eli's trip into America is not that he was smuggled part way from Guatemala in a tanker truck-- one of those huge trucks that usually carries fuel-- sealed in with 100 people, no windows or light, people fainting as the air got stale.
序言 艾拉·格拉斯 伊莱美国之行中最奇怪的事情并不是他被一辆油罐车从危地马拉偷运来的——这是一种通常运载燃料的大型卡车——里面密闭着 100 个人,没有窗户,也没有灯光,人们因空气浑浊而晕倒。
And the strangest thing about Eli's trip into America was not that after they crossed the border at the Rio Grande, they were lost in the desert for 36 hours, and he had to drink his own urine to survive.
而伊莱美国之行最奇怪的并不是他们在格兰德河越过边境后,在沙漠中迷路了36个小时,而他必须喝自己的尿液才能生存。
Yeah, it tasted a little salty.
是的,味道有点咸。
That's it.
就是这样。
Yeah.
是的。
You don't taste it.
你不尝尝。
You just drink it.
你只要喝它就可以了。
You just swallow it.
你只需吞下它即可。
It left a little aftertaste, but it kept me alive.
它留下了一点回味,但它让我活了下来。
No, the strangest thing about Eli's trip into America is that the day he gets to Chicago, after a month on the road, nearly dying twice, 24 hours after he gets to his final destination, he goes to work washing dishes where a friend of his works at Charlie Trotters, one of the most expensive and exclusive restaurants in the country, where you pay over $100 a person, and they bring you whatever the menu happens to be that day.
不,伊莱的美国之行最奇怪的事情是,在他到达芝加哥的那天,经过一个月的路途,差点死了两次,在他到达最终目的地24小时后,他去他的一个朋友在Charlie Trotters工作的地方洗碗,这是美国最昂贵和最独特的餐厅之一,在那里你支付每人100多美元,他们会给你带来当天的菜单。
Well, I felt like a stranger in a strange world, totally different of what I was used to.
嗯,我感觉自己就像一个陌生世界中的陌生人,与我习惯的世界完全不同。
Like let's say dish machine.
就像洗碗机一样。
What the hell did I know about dish machine?
我到底对洗碗机了解多少?
The kitchen well-equipped with compartments and coolers, and then walking into the dining room and the tablecloths white and neat.
厨房设备齐全,有隔间和冷却器,然后走进餐厅,桌布洁白整洁。
That's the place where I seen the biggest wine glasses, a wine glass that could fit a bottle of wine.
在那里我看到了最大的酒杯,可以装一瓶酒的酒杯。
I remember breaking one of these big glasses.
我记得打碎了其中一个大玻璃杯。
When I was told that they were over $100 each, I just went like, wow.
当我被告知它们每张超过 100 美元时,我只是说,哇。
Then there's the wine themselves.
然后是酒本身。
Lots of people would spend $1,000 for a meal.
很多人一顿饭要花1000美元。
Coming from the countryside in Guatemala, where he only needed $200 a month to maintain his home and feed his family, it was hard to comprehend.
他来自危地马拉的乡村,每月只需要 200 美元来维持房屋和养家糊口,这令人难以理解。
There was these wild nights, I threw away a lot of food and I thought of how many people in my country could use it.
在那些狂野的夜晚,我扔掉了很多食物,我想到我的国家有多少人可以使用它们。
You know, how much food and money was wasted.
你知道,浪费了多少食物和金钱。
It was amazing.
太棒了。
It's still amazing.
这仍然是惊人的。
But I think that's just the way people live in this country and that might be what keeps them so blind about the rest of the world.
但我认为这就是这个国家人们的生活方式,这可能就是他们对世界其他地方如此盲目的原因。
How starving are people, you know, in parts of the planet.
你知道,地球部分地区的人们有多饥饿。
I'm not saying they're bad.
我并不是说它们不好。
It's just the way they live here.
这就是他们在这里的生活方式。
If you go someplace new, you're a stranger in a strange land, you try to make sense of everything around you.
如果你去到一个新的地方,你就像一个陌生土地上的陌生人,你会试图理解周围的一切。
And you come to conclusions that are probably different than the things that people who live there think every day.
你得出的结论可能与住在那里的人们每天所想的不同。
Well, today on our radio program, we have stories of people in that very situation.
嗯,今天在我们的广播节目中,我们讲述了人们在这种情况下的故事。
You're listening to This American Life from WBEZ Chicago, distributed by Public Radio International.
您正在收听 WBEZ Chicago 的《This American Life》,由国际公共广播电台发行。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Act One of our show today, a man tries to reinvent tourism-- yes, tourism-- but he runs into a few snags once he gets to Africa.
我们今天节目的第一幕,一个男人试图重塑旅游业——是的,就是旅游业——但他一到非洲就遇到了一些障碍。
Act Two, Johnny, Get Your Mouse.
第二幕,约翰尼,拿起你的鼠标。
You've probably heard about these American soldiers who are blogging from the war in Iraq, but chances are you've never actually taken the time to read many of these blogs.
您可能听说过这些美国士兵在伊拉克战争中撰写博客,但您很可能从未真正花时间阅读其中的许多博客。
Well, we have done that work for you and have chosen some excerpts.
好吧,我们已经为您完成了这项工作,并选择了一些摘录。
Stories of strangers in a strange land filled with guns and land mines and IEDs.
陌生人在充满枪支、地雷和简易爆炸装置的陌生土地上的故事。
Very different stories from what you get on the news.
故事与您在新闻中看到的非常不同。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Not Just Tourists, Tourists Who Care.
第一幕,不仅仅是游客,还有关心的游客。
A guy named Chris Tenove came into our studio to talk about his idea to change the face of tourism and to tell the story of his international-- I don't even know the word for this-- the international beta test, I guess, that he did of his idea.
一个名叫克里斯·特诺夫(Chris Tenove)的人来到我们的工作室,谈论他改变旅游业面貌的想法,并讲述他的国际故事——我什至不知道这个词——国际测试版,我猜,他是根据他的想法做的。
But before we get into any of that, you should understand a little bit about the kind of person that Chris Tenove is, and the kinds of big ideas that kick around in his head.
但在我们深入探讨这些之前,你应该先了解一下克里斯·特诺夫 (Chris Tenove) 是一个什么样的人,以及他脑海中浮现的各种伟大想法。
I guess from time to time I've tried to come up with these sort of abstract plans on how to save the world.
我想我有时会尝试想出一些关于如何拯救世界的抽象计划。
And I've done this a few times.
我已经这样做过几次了。
There was at one point I had this idea-- I mean, this is a bit of a tangent.
我曾经有过这样的想法——我的意思是,这有点离题。
I had this idea that gay men in America who can't legally marry each other could go to Burma and marry women there, grant them citizenship, and through that overthrow the Burmese government.
我有这样的想法,在美国,无法合法结婚的男同性恋者可以去缅甸与那里的女性结婚,授予她们公民身份,并通过推翻缅甸政府。
And that's a horrible idea for a lot of different reasons--
出于很多不同的原因,这是一个可怕的想法——
Right.
对。
Chris Tenove --I think.
克里斯·特诺夫——我想。
Actually, I was smart enough to more or less-- I've more or less kept it to myself.
事实上,我足够聪明,或多或少——我或多或少把这件事保密了。
His idea to remake international tourism is another matter.
他重塑国际旅游业的想法是另一回事。
Chris came up with the idea after a dinner with some family friends who had just gotten back from New Zealand.
克里斯是在与一些刚从新西兰回来的家人朋友共进晚餐后提出这个想法的。
These are people who, looked at in a certain way, could be seen as kind of obnoxious.
从某种角度来看,这些人可能会被视为令人讨厌的人。
These are the kind of people who want that authentic experience wherever they travel.
这些人无论在哪里旅行都希望获得真实的体验。
In New Zealand they went to where farmers shear sheep.
在新西兰,他们去了农民剪羊毛的地方。
When they visited Thailand, they visited hill tribe villages in Thailand.
他们访问泰国时,参观了泰国的山地部落村庄。
But Chris thought, you know, these people are interested in the world, and if somebody could just harness that energy, they could actually do a lot of good.
但克里斯认为,你知道,这些人对世界感兴趣,如果有人能够利用这种能量,他们实际上可以做很多好事。
I guess I really fundamentally believe that there's a lot of good-hearted people with a fair amount of disposable income, who would be willing to really engage financially and emotionally with communities that are impoverished.
我想我真的从根本上相信有很多心地善良的人拥有相当数量的可支配收入,他们愿意在经济上和情感上真正参与贫困社区。
And I thought, how do you get people to engage?
我想,如何让人们参与进来?
And I thought travel.
我想到了旅行。
And maybe we can get them there, get them engaged, and do something useful, do something philanthropic.
也许我们可以让他们到达那里,让他们参与进来,做一些有用的事情,做一些慈善事业。
So you had this idea that people could go over to other countries and give away money?
所以你有这样的想法:人们可以去其他国家捐钱吗?
Is that the idea?
是这个想法吗?
What would they do once they were there?
一旦他们到达那里,他们会做什么?
Well, all right.
好吧,好吧。
Let's say a small group of people would go to a country like Niger, and they would be taken to a village.
假设一小群人去尼日尔这样的国家,他们会被带到一个村庄。
And they would spend, let's say, a week there getting to know people, seeing what life is like, and developing a relationship or bond with the people there.
比方说,他们会花一周的时间去认识人们,看看生活是什么样的,并与那里的人们建立关系或联系。
And then when it's time to go, they would leave a sizable enough amount of money to do some good there.
然后当离开的时候,他们会留下足够多的钱去那里做一些善事。
I mean, I bet like $500 would pay for building a school, or it would pay for anti-malarial medications for a year for the village.
我的意思是,我打赌 500 美元可以用来建造一所学校,或者可以为村庄支付一年的抗疟疾药物费用。
And then they'd go home, and they'd have this continuing bond with the people there.
然后他们会回家,并与那里的人们保持这种持续的联系。
Now in fact, there already exists something like this, a small movement that goes under various names-- travelers' philanthropy, volunteer tourism, altruistic travel-- where you go to the places, and maybe you don't get to know the people there quite as well as Chris envisions.
事实上,现在已经存在这样的事情了,一个以各种名义进行的小运动——旅行者慈善事业、志愿者旅游、利他旅行——你去了一些地方,也许你不会像克里斯想象的那样了解那里的人。
Maybe you're not in places quite so desperately off the beaten path, but you visit, you see poverty, and after which you donate some money.
也许你所在的地方并不那么偏僻,但你去了,你看到了贫困,然后你捐了一些钱。
Chris didn't know about any of that, though, and he didn't know anybody had ever tried to figure out what was right or wrong about his idea.
不过,克里斯对此一无所知,他也不知道有人曾经试图弄清楚他的想法是对是错。
And so he started talking to experts, aid workers, about this thing that he decided to call philanthropy tourism.
于是他开始与专家、援助人员讨论他决定称之为慈善旅游的事情。
None of them had ever heard about the idea either.
他们也没有听说过这个想法。
Now Chris is a freelance reporter for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
现在克里斯是加拿大广播公司的自由记者。
He travels quite a bit to southeast Asia, Cambodia, Thailand.
他经常去东南亚、柬埔寨、泰国旅行。
And as fate had it, Chris actually was headed out to one of the poorest countries in the world, Sierra Leone, for his job.
正如命运所料,克里斯实际上前往世界上最贫穷的国家之一塞拉利昂去工作。
Step one was talking to a few aid workers, and they generally told me it wasn't a great idea.
第一步是与一些援助人员交谈,他们普遍告诉我这不是一个好主意。
I mean, I was told it was a sickening idea by some.
我的意思是,有些人告诉我这是一个令人作呕的想法。
And other people thought it was a pretty good idea.
其他人认为这是一个非常好的主意。
Most people had reservations.
大多数人都持保留态度。
Yeah, we have a clip of a tape that you made at the time.
是的,我们有你当时制作的磁带片段。
This is Anthony Lawson, a British aid worker for Action for Children in Conflict.
我是安东尼·劳森,一名英国“冲突中儿童行动”援助人员。
Is that it?
是这样吗?
Yep.
是的。
Ira Glass And here's what she had to say when you ran your idea by her.
艾拉·格拉斯(Ira Glass):当你向她提出你的想法时,她是这么说的。
I think those who've done aid work for any length of time would probably be somewhat disturbed by that idea.
我认为那些长期从事援助工作的人可能会对这个想法感到有些不安。
Why?
为什么?
Anthony Lawson Because you'd then be turning the people who are the beneficiaries of the aid work into kind of gawking targets for tourists, which is completely unethical.
安东尼·劳森:因为这样你就会把援助工作的受益者变成游客的注视目标,这是完全不道德的。
What do you think of that?
你对此有何看法?
Chris Tenove Hey, it's a really valid criticism.
Chris Tenove 嘿,这是一个非常有效的批评。
I guess the issue that maybe bothered me the most was this image that it would be wealthy North Americans coming and just tossing out money like bread crumbs to pigeons or something, and that you'd get these kicks helping them, and then you'd go back to life.
我想最让我困扰的问题可能是这样的形象:富有的北美人来到这里,只是把面包屑之类的钱扔给鸽子什么的,你会得到这些帮助他们,然后你就会恢复正常。
That image of it is-- I mean, I find it repugnant.
它的形象是——我的意思是,我觉得它令人厌恶。
But this did not deter Chris.
但这并没有阻止克里斯。
Sure, these were valid concerns, he thought.
当然,这些担忧都是合理的,他想。
But the impact that this could have on people's lives could be so great, he hoped there just could be some way to do it reasonably, without the gawking, without the exploitation.
但这对人们的生活可能产生的影响是如此之大,他希望能有某种方法来合理地做到这一点,而不是令人目瞪口呆,没有剥削。
And so, like a doctor in a science fiction movie who develops an experimental serum and, worried that it is too dangerous to try out the serum on anybody else, injects it into his own veins first, Chris decided to try out philanthropy tourism himself.
因此,就像科幻电影中的一位医生开发了一种实验性血清一样,他担心在其他人身上尝试这种血清太危险,所以首先将其注射到自己的静脉中,克里斯决定自己尝试慈善旅游。
He would do himself under the crucible.
他会在坩埚下做自己。
Like I said, he was in Sierra Leone anyway.
就像我说的,无论如何他都在塞拉利昂。
He'd go to a poor village himself, meet the people, and donate some money to see if it could possibly be done without all the pitfalls and problems.
他会亲自去一个贫穷的村庄,与人们见面,并捐出一些钱,看看是否可以在没有所有陷阱和问题的情况下完成这项工作。
It was kind of ad hoc.
这是一种临时安排。
Planning?
规划?
You know, I didn't do much planning.
你知道,我没有做太多计划。
I'd planned to plan at some point, but then I found myself in a car going to this isolated village called Tombodu, and we were about to get there, and I just thought, well, let's give it a shot.
我原本计划在某个时候计划一下,但后来我发现自己正坐在车里,要去这个名叫 Tombodu 的偏僻村庄,我们即将到达那里,我只是想,好吧,让我们试一试。
You mean you were going to the village to do interviewing for your reporting?
你是说你去村里采访报道?
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, we were literally like a few hundred meters out of this village, and I was traveling with the chief's nephew, and I said, when we get to the village, I'd like to talk to the elders, because I'd like to pay for someone in the village who needs a medical operation.
是的,我们离这个村庄只有几百米,我和酋长的侄子一起旅行,我说,当我们到达村庄时,我想和长辈谈谈,因为我想为村里需要医疗手术的人付费。
And he said, what?
他说,什么?
Are you sure?
你确定吗?
And I said, yeah.
我说,是的。
And he said, OK, well, we'll talk to the elders.
他说,好吧,我们会和长辈们谈谈。
OK, so you go there and what happens when you're brought before the elders of a small village?
好吧,那么你去那里,当你被带到一个小村庄的长老面前时会发生什么?
It wasn't very formal.
这不是很正式。
The chief's nephew knew who to look for, and we stopped by a couple houses and actually just picked the guys up, and we had this little conference in the back of the car.
酋长的侄子知道该找谁,我们在几栋房子前停下来,实际上只是去接那些人,然后我们在车后座开了一个小型会议。
And they said, well, we know the guy.
他们说,好吧,我们认识这个人。
We know the guy.
我们认识这个人。
We'll get him for you.
我们会帮你找他的。
And what was his medical ailment that he needed an operation on?
他得了什么病需要手术?
Well, it had something to do with an infected and torn scrotum that had been bothering him for a long time, for years.
嗯,这与多年来困扰他的阴囊感染和撕裂有关。
And when I later met him, I could see he was having great difficulty walking.
当我后来见到他时,我发现他走路非常困难。
And so I just said, well, they know who needs the operation, so this is it.
所以我只是说,好吧,他们知道谁需要手术,所以就是这样。
Did you have any sense of if he was trying to get the money together for an operation?
你是否知道他是否正在努力筹集手术资金?
Yeah, well, he told me that that morning he'd gone with his younger brother on the trip into a nearby town.
是的,好吧,他告诉我那天早上他和他的弟弟一起去了附近的一个小镇。
And he'd gone to the doctors, and they'd said, this is what it is, and they wrote out how much it would cost to pay for an operation, which was the whopping sum of $150.
他去看了医生,他们说,就是这样,然后他们写出了手术费用,高达 150 美元。
And this was going to take, he figured, about a year long fundraising to get that kind of money together.
他认为,这需要大约一年的筹款时间才能筹集到这笔资金。
And so I came, literally, an hour after he returned to the village.
毫不夸张地说,我是在他回到村子一小时后才来的。
And so he told me later, he said, heaven sent you to me.
所以他后来告诉我,他说,上天把你送到了我身边。
I know you're an angel.
我知道你是天使。
Yeah.
是的。
It's a poor country and Tombodu is a poor village in Sierra Leone.
这是一个贫穷的国家,通博杜是塞拉利昂的一个贫穷村庄。
Now I understand you then made a speech to the village, and we have a recording of that that you made.
现在我了解到您随后向村里发表了讲话,我们有您的讲话录音。
And can you just tell me, what is the setting?
你能告诉我,背景是什么吗?
Who was there?
谁在那里?
Where are you?
你在哪里?
Are you just standing out in the open?
你只是站在公开场合吗?
As I'd been walking around the village, there'd been more and more people gathering around.
我在村子里走来走去,周围的人越来越多。
So there were 10 and then 20, and then, I think, there was about 50 people by then.
所以当时有 10 人,然后是 20 人,然后,我想,那时大约有 50 人。
And we were going to be driving out of town with this fellow, and, in fact, the chief's nephew had said, you know, we can't just toss him in the car and drive off.
我们要和这个家伙一起开车出城,事实上,酋长的侄子说过,你知道,我们不能把他扔进车里然后开走。
You've got to say something to explain it.
你必须说点什么来解释一下。
OK.
好的。
Here's a recording of it.
这是它的录音。
Chris Tenove Hello, everyone.
克里斯·特诺夫 大家好。
My name is Chris.
我的名字是克里斯。
I'm from Canada.
我来自加拿大。
[SPEAKING KRIO] Chris Tenove Before I left Canada,
[SPEAKING KRIO] Chris Tenove 在我离开加拿大之前,
[SPEAKING KRIO] Chris Tenove I talked to some of my relatives, and I told them I was coming to Sierra Leone.
[KRIO 发言] Chris Tenove 我和我的一些亲戚谈过,我告诉他们我要来塞拉利昂。
[SPEAKING KRIO] Chris Tenove And I asked them if they could give me a little bit of money to help someone.
[KRIO 发言] Chris Tenove 我问他们是否可以给我一点钱来帮助别人。
Now I'm just going to stop the tape right there before we go further.
现在,在我们继续之前,我要把磁带停在那里。
Is that true?
这是真的吗?
You mean, that I'd asked relatives to pitch in?
你是说我请亲戚帮忙?
It was probably-- what I was spending was, I don't know, half mine and half of family members.
我不知道,我花的钱可能是一半是我的,一半是家人的。
But you know what?
但你知道吗?
I was really glad to be able to say that.
我真的很高兴能够这么说。
I mean, it feels weird to say, hey, look, I'm giving this money for these people.
我的意思是,说“嘿,看,我正在为这些人提供这笔钱”感觉很奇怪。
I liked to be able to say this isn't me doing something.
我喜欢能够说这不是我在做的事情。
It's family members.
是家人。
I'm just sort of an instrument.
我只是一个乐器。
So this is why I'm taking this man from your village to the doctor.
这就是为什么我要带这个人从你们村子去看医生。
And so then they break into applause, and you feel--
然后他们爆发出掌声,你会觉得——
Yeah, that was my Angelina Jolie moment.
是的,那是我的安吉丽娜·朱莉时刻。
On the one hand, it was a little bit giddy.
一方面,有点头晕。
It's nice to have all these people cheering for something you've decided to do.
很高兴所有这些人都为你决定做的事情欢呼。
But on the other hand, I really did feel like a big fraud.
但另一方面,我确实觉得自己是个大骗子。
I mean, the 50 people like, literally, started cheering, and I thought, this is $150 that I'm spending, but it seems like there's way too much veneration, way too much excitement, I mean.
我的意思是,这 50 个人开始欢呼,我想,这是我花的 150 美元,但我的意思是,似乎有太多的崇敬,太多的兴奋。
Was there a part of you which wanted to say to them, no, no, no. You don't understand.
你是否有一部分想对他们说,不,不,不。你不明白。
This really isn't very much for me.
这对我来说确实不太重要。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, right.
是的,对。
Like, don't get so excited.
喜欢,别那么兴奋。
Yeah, that would have been a weird thing to say.
是的,这么说会很奇怪。
Yeah.
是的。
Chris Tenove But also I was told-- another thing that aid workers and also the chief's nephew brought up is that there's a real problem that people come to expect every foreigner is going to give a lot of money.
克里斯·特诺夫:但我也被告知——援助人员和酋长的侄子提出的另一件事是,人们开始期望每个外国人都会捐出很多钱,这是一个真正的问题。
The aid workers had coached me, don't encourage this culture of dependency.
援助人员指导过我,不要鼓励这种依赖文化。
Make sure to say that not every foreigner is going to come along with money and do something like this.
一定要说的是,并不是每个外国人都会带着钱来做这样的事情。
I just want to say something very clear.
我只想说非常清楚的话。
[SPEAKING KRIO] Chris Tenove Please don't expect every white person who comes to do this.
[SPEAKING KRIO] Chris Tenove 请不要指望每个来的白人都会这样做。
[SPEAKING KRIO] Chris Tenove And there are a lot of NGOs now and organizations in Sierra Leone.
[KRIO 发言] Chris Tenove 现在塞拉利昂有很多非政府组织和组织。
[SPEAKING KRIO] Chris Tenove And one day most of them, they're going to slowly leave.
[KRIO 发言] Chris Tenove 有一天,他们中的大多数人都会慢慢离开。
Yeah, what the hell am I talking about there?
是啊,我到底在说什么?
I mean, it's true the UN is hugely invested in Sierra Leone right now after the end of the civil war and they are going to start pulling out.
我的意思是,内战结束后,联合国确实在塞拉利昂投入了大量资金,但他们将开始撤出。
But, I don't know, it just seems sort of arrogant to say-- to be kind of wagging my finger and saying, you guys have got to establish your own health care system.
但是,我不知道,这似乎有点傲慢地说——有点摇着手指说,你们必须建立自己的医疗保健系统。
You know, you can't expect foreigners to do it.
你知道,你不能指望外国人这么做。
Yeah.
是的。
Chris Tenove After that speech and when we got into the car and started bouncing our way back to the nearby town, I finally got the chance to start talking to this man and that was when things really started to feel right.
克里斯·特诺夫 (Chris Tenove) 演讲结束后,当我们钻进车里,开始弹回附近的城镇时,我终于有机会开始与这个人交谈,那时事情才真正开始感觉好起来。
And actually, we ended up sitting together for a couple hours and just chatting.
事实上,我们最终坐在一起聊了几个小时。
And he told me about his life, really, and about his grandchildren and about the day he found a diamond in the pits nearby and was able to build this nice house that later got burned down by the rebels.
他向我讲述了他的生活,真的,还有他的孙子们,以及他在附近的矿坑中发现一颗钻石并能够建造这座后来被叛军烧毁的漂亮房子的那一天。
You know, talking about his grandchildren and how he wasn't going to be a boring old man anymore.
你知道,谈论他的孙子以及他如何不再是一个无聊的老人。
He said once he had this operation, he'd be able to garden again and walk around.
他说,一旦接受了手术,他就能再次园艺和四处走动。
And so, it was quite touching.
所以,这是相当感人的。
It was nice to have gotten to know him over that afternoon and early evening.
很高兴在那天下午和傍晚认识了他。
And so his first field test turned out exactly how Chris had hoped it would.
因此,他的第一次现场测试结果正如克里斯所希望的那样。
And as he traveled, he even met some people in Sierra Leone who saw his vision, who got really excited about the idea of philanthropy tourism.
当他旅行时,他甚至在塞拉利昂遇到了一些看到他愿景的人,他们对慈善旅游的想法感到非常兴奋。
And there was one woman who already was trying to think of how to get people to visit this little hippo preserve, this baby-- no, what was it?
有一位女士已经在考虑如何让人们参观这个小河马保护区,这个婴儿——不,那是什么?
Miniature hippo preserve in Sierra Leone.
塞拉利昂的微型河马保护区。
And she was working out how much it would cost.
她正在算出这要花多少钱。
What are you talking about?
你在说什么?
I feel like she's sitting on gold.
我感觉她就像坐在黄金上一样。
She has miniature baby hippos?
她有微型河马宝宝?
Yeah.
是的。
Ira Glass And she can't get Westerners to come and give money?
艾拉·格拉斯(Ira Glass):她不能让西方人过来捐钱吗?
Like, that's the easiest sell I've ever heard.
就像,这是我听过的最简单的销售。
She basically is sitting on like wild, African, baby, miniature, baby African hippo puppies, right?
她基本上就像野生的、非洲的、婴儿的、微型的、婴儿的非洲河马小狗一样,对吧?
Like, that's what we're talking about here.
就像,这就是我们在这里谈论的。
Yeah.
是的。
Well, the problem is it's in Sierra Leone, the land of the child soldiers and amputation squads.
好吧,问题是在塞拉利昂,这是儿童兵和截肢小队的土地。
So it's not-- Sierra Leone is not an easy tourism sell.
所以,塞拉利昂并不是一个容易销售的旅游目的地。
It's actually such a tough tourism sell, Chris thought, that it would be prudent to do a second trial of his experiment.
克里斯想,这实际上是一个很难推销的旅游产品,所以谨慎的做法是对他的实验进行第二次试验。
After all, it's not really science if you can't replicate your results.
毕竟,如果你无法复制你的结果,那它就不是真正的科学。
He heard about a nonprofit organization called Gracelands that had a good reputation for helping people.
他听说了一个名为 Gracelands 的非营利组织,该组织在帮助人们方面享有盛誉。
He thought maybe he'd try there.
他想也许他应该去那里尝试一下。
It's an organization for traumatized young women.
这是一个为遭受创伤的年轻女性设立的组织。
Most of them were bush brides, which meant during the civil war, rebel groups would've captured them in their village and taken them off.
她们中的大多数都是丛林新娘,这意味着在内战期间,反叛组织会在村庄里抓住她们并将她们带走。
And a lot of them would have been gang raped and forced to serve this rebel group in these sort of marriages.
他们中的很多人会被轮奸,并被迫在这种婚姻中为这个叛乱组织服务。
I'd also found out that there was a young woman there who needed an operation.
我还发现那里有一位年轻女子需要手术。
And so, I was going to give them money for this operation to the organization, but I thought, you know, I'd spend an afternoon there.
因此,我本来打算向他们的组织提供这次行动的资金,但我想,你知道,我会在那里度过一个下午。
You just wanted to get to know them a little bit.
你只是想稍微了解一下他们。
Yeah.
是的。
And I didn't even plan on getting to know this one woman whose operation I was paying for in particular.
我什至没有打算去认识这位我特别支付手术费用的女士。
I thought, we'll just hangout and we'll have this same sort of thing that I had with the gentleman in the other village.
我想,我们就一起出去玩,然后我们就会像我和另一个村庄的那位绅士一样做同样的事情。
But it didn't quite happen that way.
但事实并非如此。
When I got there, you know, we started talking, and then the young women there would start to tell me exactly what had happened to them.
当我到达那里时,你知道,我们开始交谈,然后那里的年轻女性会开始告诉我她们到底发生了什么事。
You mean, because you asked or just because you were this foreigner who was in there and it seemed like the thing to do?
你的意思是,因为你问了,或者只是因为你是一个外国人,在里面而且这似乎是要做的事情?
Well, I mean, I would ask a question like, where are you from or something like that.
嗯,我的意思是,我会问这样的问题,比如你来自哪里或者类似的问题。
And they would describe being captured by the rebels and they'd talk about the difficult straits they were in now.
他们会描述自己被叛军俘虏的经历,也会谈论他们现在所处的困境。
And I kind of got the feeling that these young women thought, here's someone who can provide help, and so we've got to show to him we really need it.
我有一种感觉,这些年轻女性认为,有人可以提供帮助,所以我们必须向他表明我们确实需要帮助。
And so, even though it was sort of uncomfortable, they would start to describe these painful incidents.
因此,尽管有点不舒服,他们还是会开始描述这些痛苦的事件。
And, in fact, I don't even really know how this happened-- I mean, why the conversations took that turn, but it happened again and again.
事实上,我什至不知道这是怎么发生的——我的意思是,为什么谈话会发生这样的转变,但它一次又一次地发生。
I just felt horrible.
我只是觉得太可怕了。
Now we have a recording of you with some of these women, and I have to say, it seems so painful.
现在我们有一段你和其中一些女人在一起的录音,我不得不说,这看起来很痛苦。
I'm not sure I even want to put it on the radio, just because it feels-- like your heart goes out to these women who just start crying when they start talking to you about this.
我不确定我什至想把它放在广播中,只是因为它感觉——就像你的心为这些当她们开始和你谈论这件事时就开始哭泣的女人感到难过。
And I wonder, at the end of that experience did you feel like, OK, well, that's it.
我想知道,在那次经历结束时,你是否感觉,好吧,就这样了。
I guess this isn't such a great idea.
我想这不是一个好主意。
Like, how did you feel at the end of that?
比如,最后你感觉如何?
Yeah.
是的。
I felt exploitative, you know, that I was coming there to-- OK, I was going to give some money, but I was also going to enjoy their company and maybe even feel good about what I was doing.
你知道,我觉得自己被剥削了,因为我来这里是为了——好吧,我要捐一些钱,但我也会享受他们的陪伴,甚至可能对我所做的事情感觉良好。
And then instead of it being pleasurable for everyone it turned into what was really these heart wringing catalysts for grief while I was there.
然后,当我在那里时,它并没有让每个人都感到愉快,而是变成了真正令人心碎的悲伤催化剂。
And so, I kind of think that that one was a mistake.
所以,我认为这是一个错误。
But, ultimately, even though the second time didn't work out that well, I still think it was a good idea for me, because it just really convinced me that you can engage and with these small amounts of money, you can really do something useful.
但是,最终,即使第二次效果不太好,我仍然认为这对我来说是个好主意,因为它真的让我相信你可以参与,并且用这些少量的钱,你真的可以做一些有用的事情。
I think it's absurd how easy it is and that it's not being done.
我认为这是荒谬的,它是多么容易,却没有被完成。
But you say it's so easy, but when you talked to that woman, it seemed like it was incredibly painful for her.
但你说这很容易,但当你和那个女人交谈时,她似乎感到无比痛苦。
Yeah.
是的。
I guess what I think was the easy part in that situation, it was very easy to give.
我想我认为在那种情况下最容易的部分是,很容易给予。
It was like $120 for this operation, which is not that much money and you can change someone's life.
这次手术大概是120美元,这并不是多少钱,但你可以改变一个人的生活。
That's the easy part.
这是最简单的部分。
The really difficult part is these relationships.
真正困难的部分是这些关系。
I wonder if the thing that makes it so tough is the fact that you're trying to get something back from it.
我想知道事情变得如此困难是否是因为你想从中得到一些东西。
Do you know what I mean?
你知道我的意思吗?
Like, when you talk about it, you say, you thought you'd enjoy their company.
就像,当你谈论它时,你说,你认为你会喜欢他们的陪伴。
You thought that you'd have an experience that would make you feel good about what you're doing, and I wonder if the nature of this kind of act is that you have to do it not expecting anything back.
你以为你会获得一种体验,让你对自己正在做的事情感觉良好,而我想知道这种行为的本质是否是你必须去做而不期待任何回报。
Yeah.
是的。
I think that's true.
我认为这是真的。
I mean, and why do we have to have a good time when doing this?
我的意思是,为什么我们在做这件事的时候一定要玩得开心呢?
I just think it's because people need an inducement in order to do the right thing sometimes.
我只是认为这是因为人们有时需要诱因才能做正确的事。
I know, but it's almost like you're trying to take people who don't want to be generous and say, well, there's something in it for you.
我知道,但这几乎就像你试图让那些不想慷慨的人说,好吧,其中有一些适合你的东西。
And I feel like, in the end, maybe charity is really just going to be for the generous.
我觉得,最终,也许慈善事业真的只是为了慷慨的人。
I think people will be more generous once they go and meet people and see what the situation is like.
我认为,一旦人们去见人,看看情况如何,他们会更加慷慨。
And so it's setting up that engagement.
所以它正在建立这种参与。
And this idea of philanthropy tourism, it's not for people who are already giving a lot of money to organizations.
这种慈善旅游的想法并不适合那些已经向组织捐赠了大量资金的人。
And I really believe that once people have actually seen what it's like, they will be generous.
我真的相信,一旦人们真正看到了它的样子,他们就会变得慷慨。
Chris Tenove.
克里斯·特诺夫.
He still believes that somebody could get philanthropy tourism to work, somebody with organizational skills.
他仍然相信,有组织能力的人可以让慈善旅游发挥作用。
He says that he'll still give to charity, but never again one-on-one in a village.
他说他仍然会向慈善机构捐款,但再也不会在村庄里进行一对一的捐款。
Coming up, some of the unpleasant dangers of being an American serviceman in Iraq-- IEDs, ambushes, subscriptions to Details magazine.
接下来是作为一名美国军人在伊拉克面临的一些令人不快的危险——简易爆炸装置、伏击、订阅《细节》杂志。
That's in a minute, from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International, when our program continues.
稍后,芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life .
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme, bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然,每周我们的节目都会选择一个主题,为您带来有关该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's program, Strangers in a Strange Land.
今天的节目是《异乡的陌生人》。
We've arrived at act two of our show.
我们已经到了演出的第二幕了。
Act Two, Johnny, Get Your Mouse.
第二幕,约翰尼,拿起你的鼠标。
Soldiers in Iraq are writing open diaries about their experience in that strange place on daily blogs that anybody can read on the internet.
伊拉克士兵正在每天的博客上公开写日记,讲述他们在这个陌生地方的经历,任何人都可以在互联网上阅读。
We now have excerpts of three of them.
我们现在有其中三篇的摘录。
Many of the blogs that are out there very consciously try to counteract what soldiers consider the bias of the mainstream media.
许多博客都非常有意识地试图抵消士兵们认为的主流媒体的偏见。
These blogs tell stories of successes, schools built, kids who get health care.
这些博客讲述了成功的故事、学校的建立、孩子们获得医疗保健的故事。
All of that is very common, but the blogs are much more than that.
所有这些都很常见,但博客远不止于此。
One of our producers, Amy O'Leary, has been reading dozens and dozens of the blogs trying to get a sense of what they're about and get an overview.
我们的制作人之一艾米·奥利里(Amy O'Leary)一直在阅读数十个博客,试图了解它们的内容并获得概述。
Amy.
艾米。
Well, I would say about 20% of them are writing with, you know, an emphatic sort of political sensibility.
嗯,我想说,其中大约 20% 的人在写作时具有强烈的政治敏感性。
By and large almost all of those are patriotic and conservative, and they are talking about the war and talking about their support for it.
总的来说,几乎所有这些人都是爱国和保守的,他们都在谈论战争并谈论他们对战争的支持。
There's another 20% that are not really writing for anyone except friends or family.
还有 20% 的人实际上并没有为除了朋友或家人之外的任何人写作。
It's much more private.
它更加私密。
So this is like in lieu of emailing a whole bunch of people.
所以这就像代替向一大群人发送电子邮件一样。
They just put it up there and the people who know them just look.
他们只是把它放在那里,认识他们的人只是看看。
Right.
正确的。
And then the last group is the majority.
最后一组是大多数。
And those blogs are really people who are trying to write about the war to explain it to people back in the States.
这些博客实际上是试图撰写有关战争的文章,向美国人民解释它的人。
What are they writing about?
他们在写什么?
Amy O'leary How they pass the time.
艾米·奥利里 他们如何打发时间。
How they're doing.
他们怎么样。
You know, a lot of it's counting down the days to come home.
你知道,很多人都在倒数回家的日子。
How the food is.
食物怎么样。
You know, practical jokes they've played on the guys they're with.
你知道,他们对身边的人开恶作剧。
Pretty basic stuff.
非常基本的东西。
So, you know, if they go on missions, they talk about that.
所以,你知道,如果他们执行任务,他们就会谈论这一点。
A lot about Iraqi kids.
很多关于伊拉克孩子的事情。
Almost everybody talks about the kids they see in the street.
几乎每个人都会谈论他们在街上看到的孩子。
There's so many pictures of soldiers helping kids, soldiers handing out candy and pens and pencils.
有很多士兵帮助孩子、分发糖果、钢笔和铅笔的照片。
They all seem to have a really strong affection and fondness for the kids in Iraq.
他们似乎都对伊拉克的孩子有非常强烈的感情和喜爱。
And so what's the picture that you get of the war after you read a lot of these that you might not have otherwise?
那么,当你读了很多这些你原本可能不会了解的文章之后,你对战争的了解是怎样的呢?
There are so many people writing.
有这么多人写。
There are so many blogs.
有很多博客。
There are so many people's lives who are encompassed by this war.
许多人的生命都被这场战争所包围。
And, you know, you might hear about an IED explosion.
而且,您可能听说过简易爆炸装置爆炸。
You might hear about, you know, a truck bomb or something, but then when you read about it over and over again, and you read-- like, almost anybody who's left the base has been hit by an IED.
你可能听说过,你知道,卡车炸弹之类的,但是当你一遍又一遍地读到它时,你读到——几乎所有离开基地的人都被简易爆炸装置击中了。
This is not, you know, a couple of isolated incidents.
你知道,这并不是几个孤立的事件。
This is a fact of life for the people who are over there.
对于那里的人们来说,这是生活的事实。
OK.
好的。
So now we're going to hear excerpts from a handful of different bloggers.
现在我们将听到一些不同博主的摘录。
And this first one is Captain Chuck Ziegenfuss.
第一个是查克·齐根福斯船长。
I should say that we have links to all of the URLs at our website, thisamericanlife.org.
我应该说,我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org 上有所有 URL 的链接。
The URL for his blog is tcoverride.blogspot.com.
他的博客的 URL 是 tcoverride.blogspot.com。
And he, on his blog, describes himself as an unashamedly patriotic American, 15 years in the army, the commander of Charlie Company 2 3 4 Armor in Iraq and at Fort Riley, Kansas.
他在博客上将自己描述为一名毫不羞耻的爱国美国人,已在军队服役 15 年,是伊拉克和堪萨斯州莱利堡查理 2 3 4 装甲连的指挥官。
He had about 65 to 70 guys under him and 14 tanks.
他手下约有 65 至 70 名士兵和 14 辆坦克。
Here he is.
他在这里。
I had an interesting day.
我度过了有趣的一天。
I went on another patrol, but this one got pretty interesting right off the bat.
我又进行了一次巡逻,但这一次立刻就变得非常有趣。
We were walking through a palm grove just looking around, and I looked about three feet to my right and saw a landmine.
我们穿过一片棕榈树林,环顾四周,我向右侧三英尺处望去,看到了一枚地雷。
I immediately looked at my feet, not making the connection that if I had already stepped on a mine, I'd not have any feet.
我立即看着自己的脚,没有想到如果我已经踩到了地雷,我就没有脚了。
Well, we cordoned off the area and swept for more mines as some of the boys prepped it for demolition.
好吧,我们封锁了该地区,并扫荡了更多地雷,一些男孩正在准备拆除该地区。
About 30 minutes later, I was 50 yards away talking to one of my platoon sergeants, and I find another mine.
大约 30 分钟后,我在 50 码外与我的一名排中士交谈,然后我发现了另一个地雷。
This one is about 15 feet away under a piece of cinder block.
这个位于大约 15 英尺外的一块煤渣块下面。
Again, I look at my feet before saying, hey, isn't that a mine?
我再次看了看我的脚,然后说,嘿,那不是我的吗?
We blew them both up and went about our business.
我们把它们都炸了,然后继续我们的事。
The weird thing about all this was how normal it all seemed.
这一切的奇怪之处在于,这一切看起来多么正常。
I didn't get excited, just went about doing my job.
我并没有兴奋,只是继续做我的工作。
I guess it will all end up as part of my PTSD later.
我想这一切最终都会成为我创伤后应激障碍的一部分。
I was talking to one of the villagers today, as I was watched by her seven kids.
今天我正在与一位村民交谈,她的七个孩子注视着我。
As I looked at the youngest of them, a little girl about my daughter's age, I saw a dirty face and a big toothy grin.
当我看着他们中最小的一个,一个和我女儿年龄相仿的小女孩时,我看到一张脏兮兮的脸和一张露齿的大笑。
She hid by Grandma Sabiya and just kept staring and smiling.
她躲在萨比亚奶奶身边,只是一直盯着她微笑。
She was wearing sandals and a t-shirt and a seventh generation hand-me-down pair of pants.
她穿着凉鞋、T恤和第七代旧裤子。
Here I was standing around wearing my desert uniform, wool socks, coat, body armor, and all my gear, and I was a little chilly.
我穿着沙漠制服、羊毛袜、外套、防弹衣和所有装备站在那里,我有点冷。
But these kids are dressed like we dress in the summer.
但这些孩子的穿着就像我们夏天的穿着一样。
It's not a matter of acclimation.
这不是适应问题。
They simply have no other choice.
他们根本没有其他选择。
I just wanted to give that little girl a pair of shoes and a warm smile, and tell her that people in America that have never met her care about her.
我只是想送给那个小女孩一双鞋和一个温暖的微笑,并告诉她,在美国,那些从未见过她的人都关心她。
I came over here thinking we should just bomb this place into a parking lot.
我来到这里想我们应该把这个地方炸成停车场。
I now think that as alien as this culture is, it may actually be worth saving.
我现在认为,尽管这种文化很陌生,但它实际上可能值得拯救。
I figure that if I'm going to have to find mines, get shot at, and get blown up by IEDs, I might try to do some good here, too.
我想,如果我必须寻找地雷、被射击、被简易爆炸装置炸毁,我也可能会尝试在这里做一些好事。
God knows I'm way low on karma points.
天知道我的业力点太低了。
An hour later, a little kid throws a rock at my truck.
一个小时后,一个小孩向我的卡车扔了一块石头。
It bounces off the gunner's turret, hits him in his sunglasses, shatters the lens, and gives the gunner one helluva shiner.
它从炮手的炮塔上弹开,击中了他的太阳镜,打碎了镜片,给炮手带来了巨大的光芒。
So much for the shoes.
鞋子就说这么多了。
I showed him something else.
我给他看了别的东西。
Love, parental American style.
爱,美国式的父母风格。
I chased him on foot through the town, pulled his pants down in front of all of his little buddies, and spanked his bare ass right there on the street.
我步行穿过城镇追赶他,当着他所有小伙伴的面把他的裤子脱下来,在街上打了他光着屁股的屁股。
If it's good enough for my kids, it's good enough for him.
如果这对我的孩子来说足够好,那么对他来说也足够好。
Pretty dull day today.
今天真是无聊的一天。
I had a meeting with the sheik's council in al Hillah, which is like a county, with a local mayor and about 20 sheiks, and maybe three of them I trust.
我在阿尔希拉(al Hillah)与酋长委员会举行了一次会议,那里就像一个县,有当地市长和大约 20 名酋长,也许其中有三位是我信任的。
The head sheik, Sheik Adnan, looks like a very tan Lee Marvin.
酋长谢赫·阿德南 (Sheik Adnan) 看起来很像晒黑的李·马文 (Lee Marvin)。
There's another one, Sheik Amir, who looks like Father Guido Sarducci from old SNL reruns.
还有一位名叫谢赫·阿米尔(Sheik Amir),他长得很像旧版 SNL 重播中的吉多·萨杜奇神父(Father Guido Sarducci)。
The Iraqi army major I work with, Major Karim looks, I swear, just like Eugene Levy from SCTV.
我发誓,与我一起工作的伊拉克陆军少校卡里姆少校看起来就像 SCTV 的尤金·利维 (Eugene Levy)。
The sheiks all bitch about the same things.
酋长们都在为同样的事情发牢骚。
They want public works projects in their towns, and we want them to guarantee security and turn over terrorists to us.
他们希望在他们的城镇进行公共工程项目,我们希望他们保证安全并将恐怖分子交给我们。
They balk and say that they can control their people, but people come from other areas to plant IEDs and attack Americans.
他们犹豫不决,说他们可以控制自己的人民,但其他地区的人们却来安放简易爆炸装置并攻击美国人。
We say, bull [BLEEP] and tell them that we can't pay for the public works until the area is secure.
我们说,咆哮[BLEEP]并告诉他们,在该地区安全之前我们无法支付公共工程费用。
Lather, rinse and repeat.
起泡沫,冲洗并重复。
Third verse same as the first.
第三句与第一句相同。
I imagine this will go on for a year or so.
我想这种情况会持续一年左右。
Sheik Adnan is pretty likable and seems to be a pretty honest broker.
谢赫·阿德南 (Sheik Adnan) 非常讨人喜欢,而且似乎是一个非常诚实的经纪人。
He told me yesterday that sometimes he will have to say things to me in front of the other sheiks that he does not necessarily back.
他昨天告诉我,有时他必须在其他酋长面前对我说一些他不一定会回应的事情。
I understand that he has to do it to save face.
我明白他必须这样做是为了挽回面子。
I also told him, in no uncertain terms, that I didn't really care what he said to me in front of the other sheiks as long as we remain respectful to each other.
我还毫不含糊地告诉他,只要我们保持相互尊重,我并不关心他在其他酋长面前对我说了什么。
I told him that if he disrespects me, I will drag him through the streets in cuffs and put him in a very dark place.
我告诉他,如果他不尊重我,我会把他戴着手铐拖到街上,把他放在一个非常黑暗的地方。
It seemed weird to say that to a 50-year-old man, but he smiled and told me that he was glad to see that I had backbone, and that there are very few people who would ever say that to his face and he respects me for it.
对一个50岁的男人说这样的话似乎很奇怪,但他微笑着告诉我,他很高兴看到我有骨气,而且很少有人会当着他的面说这样的话,他因此尊重我。
He asked me if I was a prince or a sheik in America, because I had so many tanks and soldiers.
他问我是美国的王子还是酋长,因为我有那么多坦克和士兵。
I didn't want to tell him the truth, because it would actually hurt my position with him.
我不想告诉他真相,因为这实际上会损害我在他心中的地位。
So I told him that America does not have princes or sheiks, but I was personally commissioned by the President of the United States and placed in command of the company under his authority.
所以我告诉他,美国没有王子或酋长,但我是受美国总统亲自委托,在他的授权下指挥公司的。
This, of course, is true, but not exactly forthcoming.
当然,这是事实,但并不完全是事实。
He was very impressed by that.
他对此印象非常深刻。
Did you know that in America they have machines that make clouds come?
你知道在美国他们有制造云的机器吗?
I didn't either until we found out from an Iraqi man at the gas station.
我也没有意识到,直到我们从加油站的一名伊拉克男子那里得知。
And thank God our body armor has those internal cooling units.
感谢上帝,我们的防弹衣有内部冷却装置。
If I didn't have that micro air conditioner inside, then I'd just be walking around with a 30-pound vest in 110 degree heat.
如果我里面没有那个微型空调,那么我就会穿着 30 磅重的背心在 110 度的高温下四处走动。
Oh, and I don't know where I'd be without my sunglasses.
哦,我不知道如果没有太阳镜我会在哪里。
Unfortunately, many Iraqis have figured out that they allow me to see weapons through people's clothing.
不幸的是,许多伊拉克人发现他们允许我透过人们的衣服看到武器。
I don't know where they get this stuff from, but if myths about American technology make someone think twice about attacking us, then I guess I can't complain.
我不知道他们从哪里得到这些东西,但如果有关美国技术的神话让某人在攻击我们时三思而后行,那么我想我不能抱怨。
This is Trueman Muhrer-Irwin.
我是特鲁曼·穆勒-欧文。
He blogs at livejournal.
他在 livejournal 上发表博客。
com under the name rebelcoyote.
com,名称为rebelcoyote。
He's originally from Chicago.
他来自芝加哥。
He joined the Army National Guard, served as a Private First Class in Alpha Company Third Battalion 124th Infantry.
他加入了陆军国民警卫队,在第 124 步兵阿尔法连第三营担任一等兵。
We had just finished the DVD of Friends , season three, and me, Micah, and Jared had all sat down to watch season four.
我们刚刚看完《老友记》第三季的 DVD,我、迈卡和杰瑞德都坐下来观看第四季。
We were all having a good time.
我们都玩得很开心。
Ross and Rachel were getting back together after a weekend retreat to the beach.
罗斯和瑞秋在周末去海滩度假后重聚。
Phoebe discovered who her real mother was.
菲比发现了她的亲生母亲是谁。
Joey dug a hole.
乔伊挖了一个洞。
Chandler made snide remarks.
钱德勒发表了讽刺言论。
And in Baghdad, a suicide bomber drove a vehicle packed with explosives up to the Turkish Embassy and detonated it, killing himself and injuring at least two embassy workers.
在巴格达,一名自杀式炸弹袭击者驾驶一辆装满炸药的车辆前往土耳其大使馆并将其引爆,导致至少两名大使馆工作人员受伤。
The blast, no more than a mile away from our compound, shook the walls.
爆炸距离我们的院落不到一英里,墙壁都震动了。
The doors rattled.
门嘎嘎作响。
The windows of our supply room cracked.
我们供应室的窗户裂了。
The explosion was louder than the RPG that struck our compound two months earlier.
爆炸声比两个月前袭击我们大院的火箭弹还要大。
It still doesn't seem real, none of this.
看起来仍然不真实,这一切都不是。
Even the biggest explosions seem like special effects in a long, drawn out training exercise.
即使是最大的爆炸也像是一场漫长的训练中的特效。
It was still hard to believe that this is real, that people are dying.
仍然很难相信这是真的,人们正在死去。
And that the events that make CNN headlines, the kind of stuff that's passed in my peripheral awareness my entire life is happening a mile away from where I sleep.
那些成为 CNN 头条新闻的事件,那些在我一生的外围意识中传递的事情,都发生在离我睡觉的地方一英里之外。
After this entry on Trueman's blog, there are a couple more entries, and then on November 9, 2003, the entries stop.
在 Trueman 的博客上发布此条目之后,又出现了几个条目,然后在 2003 年 11 月 9 日,这些条目停止了。
Five days later, this message appears on the blog from his friend, Emily.
五天后,他的朋友艾米丽的博客上出现了这条消息。
"Hi, all.
“大家好。
This is Emy, updating on behalf of rebelcoyote.
我是 Emy,代表 Rebelcoyote 进行更新。
To start with, Trueman is going to be OK, however, he won't be updating for a while." She goes on to say that Trueman's been injured.
首先,特鲁曼会没事的,但他暂时不会更新。”她接着说特鲁曼受伤了。
He's in hospital in Germany.
他在德国的医院里。
He'll write again when he can.
只要有可能,他就会再写信。
Then, just over a week later at midnight, November 17, Trueman comes back to tell what happened.
然后,一周多后,即 11 月 17 日午夜,特鲁曼回来讲述了发生的事情。
We were on our way to pick up a few things from our compound.
我们正要去我们的院子里拿一些东西。
If we were going to spend the rest of the week at First AD Brigade headquarters, we were sure as hell going to have all our stuff.
如果我们要在第一 AD 旅总部度过这周剩下的时间,我们肯定会拥有所有的东西。
We were just going to make a quick stop at the barracks, then head over to gunner main.
我们打算在军营短暂停留,然后前往炮长主楼。
As we were coming up towards River Road, I stared out at the street, pulling security from behind the 50 cal.
当我们朝河路走去时,我盯着外面的街道,把保安从 50 公里后面拉了出来。
Then all of a sudden something hit me.
然后突然有什么东西击中了我。
It felt like we'd driven under a low bridge or maybe someone had hit me with a brick.
感觉就像我们在一座低矮的桥下开车,或者有人用砖头打了我。
It took almost a full second to realize what had happened.
几乎花了整整一秒钟才意识到发生了什么。
The smoke and the dust were all around us.
我们周围到处都是烟雾和灰尘。
There was no sound but the dull ringing in my head, and all I could smell was blood.
脑子里除了沉闷的轰鸣声之外,什么声音也没有,我所能闻到的只有血腥味。
I began to feel frantically around my throat for wounds as the voice of platoon medic Matt Moss pierced the silence.
当排军医马特·莫斯的声音打破寂静时,我开始疯狂地摸索喉咙周围是否有伤口。
Get away from the vehicle, he screamed.
离开车辆,他尖叫道。
He was right.
他是对的。
The gas tanks could go or someone could be waiting with an RPG for the dust to clear.
油箱可能会消失,或者有人可能会拿着火箭弹等待灰尘被清除。
When I lowered myself to the ground, I looked through the missing windshield and saw Wise, still motionless in the passenger seat.
当我趴到地上时,我透过缺失的挡风玻璃看到了怀斯,他仍然一动不动地坐在乘客座位上。
His head was tilted back and his face was covered in blood.
他的头向后仰着,脸上沾满了血。
Help me move him, Matt shouted.
帮我移动他,马特喊道。
I can't, I yelled.
我不能,我喊道。
I think my foot's broken.
我想我的脚断了。
As I hopped off to the side of the road and sat down, I realized that my foot was not only broken, but pouring a steady stream of blood from the left side.
当我跳到路边坐下时,我发现我的脚不仅断了,而且从左边源源不断地流着血。
Through gritted teeth and intense pain, I unlaced my boot and pulled it off.
我咬紧牙关,忍受着剧烈的疼痛,解开了靴子的鞋带,把它脱了下来。
The left side of my sock was entirely soaked and dripping with blood, but the right side was a large charred patch of indistinguishable skin, sock, and shrapnel.
我的袜子左边完全湿透了,滴着血,但右边却是一大片烧焦的皮肤、袜子和弹片,难以辨认。
I'm going to lose my foot, I thought.
我想我会失去我的脚。
Then Matt's voice broke through my self-absorbed agony.
然后马特的声音打破了我自我陶醉的痛苦。
Come on, Wise, breathe, he shouted.
来吧,怀斯,呼吸,他喊道。
God damn it, breathe.
该死的,呼吸。
You're not going to die here.
你不会死在这里。
I shouldn't be worried about my foot while one of my best friends is dying 10 feet away, but it hurt so bad.
当我最好的朋友之一在 10 英尺外死去时,我不应该担心我的脚,但它疼得很厉害。
Wise and I were loaded onto a Blackhawk and evaced to the hospital at the palace.
怀斯和我被抬上一架黑鹰并被送往宫殿的医院。
They'd gotten him breathing again.
他们让他再次呼吸了。
They said he'd be OK.
他们说他会没事的。
At the hospital, they gave me morphine.
在医院,他们给了我吗啡。
It didn't do much for the pain, but Wise was going to be OK, and once the doctor pulled the shrapnel out, he said I wasn't going to lose my foot.
这对疼痛没有多大作用,但怀斯会没事的,当医生把弹片拉出来后,他说我不会失去我的脚。
All in all, I was in a good mood.
总而言之,我的心情很好。
Maybe it was just the drugs, but I knew everything was going to be fine.
也许只是药物的问题,但我知道一切都会好起来的。
The doctors put me under for surgery.
医生让我接受手术。
They cleaned out my wound and cut away the dead burned tissue.
他们清理了我的伤口并切除了烧伤的死组织。
When I woke up, I didn't feel any pain.
当我醒来时,我没有感到任何疼痛。
I still had my foot.
我的脚还在。
I was going to be back in the States in a week.
我本来打算一周后回到美国。
Then I found out that Wise, the guy I had spent the last nine months getting to know better than any one else, died of massive head trauma while I was in surgery.
然后我发现怀斯,这个我在过去九个月里比其他人都了解的人,在我接受手术时死于严重的头部创伤。
He'll be buried at Arlington National Cemetery next week.
他将于下周被安葬在阿灵顿国家公墓。
This is all a dream.
这一切都是一场梦。
Any second now, [UNINTELLIGIBLE] going to wake me up for a guard shift.
现在随时都会[难以理解]叫醒我轮班。
Any second now, I'm going to climb grudgingly out of my bed and look across through the dim light and see Wise.
现在,我随时都会不情愿地从床上爬起来,透过昏暗的灯光看到怀斯。
He'll be making that face again, the one that's questioning how many people he'd have to kill to go back to sleep.
他会再次露出那张脸,那张脸在质疑他必须杀死多少人才能重新入睡。
We'll get dressed, drag our feet up to the roof, and spend a miserable three hours in the freezing wind staring down at the road.
我们会穿好衣服,拖着脚爬上屋顶,在凛冽的寒风中凝视着路面,度过悲惨的三个小时。
Maybe he'll tell me about his job at Greybar or an anecdote from his days as JROTC Corps Commander.
也许他会告诉我他在 Greybar 的工作或者他担任 JROTC 军团指挥官时的轶事。
I might tell him about Chicago and why things didn't work out with my last girlfriend.
我可能会告诉他芝加哥的事以及为什么我和上一个女朋友的关系不顺利。
We'll nod and pretend we haven't heard the stories before.
我们会点头,假装我们以前没有听过这些故事。
We'll bitch about our leaders and talk about our plans when we get home.
当我们回到家时,我们会抱怨我们的领导人并谈论我们的计划。
Maybe Wise will even pull out a three-by-five card and draw up the floor plan for his house again.
也许怀斯甚至会拿出一张三乘五的卡片,重新为他的房子绘制平面图。
Any second now we'll wake up, and Wise won't be dead.
现在我们随时都会醒来,而怀斯不会死。
Because he can't be dead.
因为他不能死。
People only die in the newspapers.
人们只在报纸上看到死亡。
But the seconds pass, and I don't wake up to anything but sterile sheets and pain.
但时间一分一秒过去,我醒来时除了无菌床单和疼痛之外什么也没有。
I never thought I'd join the army.
我从没想过我会参军。
I've had a fairly liberal pacifist upbringing and couldn't imagine myself as a soldier.
我接受了相当自由的和平主义教育,无法想象自己会成为一名士兵。
I feel funny admitting it now, but ultimately, it was the college money that got me.
我现在承认这一点感觉很有趣,但最终,是大学的钱吸引了我。
It seemed like a good deal.
这似乎是一笔不错的交易。
I knew that even if I got sent overseas, the worst case scenario was a rotation in Bosnia.
我知道,即使我被派往海外,最坏的情况也是在波斯尼亚轮换。
I wouldn't be gone more than six months.
我不会离开超过六个月。
I hated the way this war started.
我讨厌这场战争的开始方式。
It took me a long time to come to terms with my role as a soldier in Iraq.
我花了很长时间才接受自己作为伊拉克士兵的角色。
Eventually, I came to realize that, although the method was flawed, the result was freedom for the people for the first time in 30 years.
最终,我意识到,虽然方法有缺陷,但结果是人民30年来第一次获得自由。
People don't hear the good things from the news, and I'll admit that even I have trouble taking the things that come from the White House Press Room seriously.
人们听不到新闻中的好消息,我承认,即使是我也很难认真对待来自白宫新闻发布室的消息。
But no one hears about the people who bring us food in the streets and take their children out to shake our hands.
但没有人听说有人在街上给我们送食物,并带着他们的孩子出去与我们握手。
We established the first garbage collection system in Baghdad's history.
我们建立了巴格达历史上第一个垃圾收集系统。
We've arrested dozens of corrupt gas station managers to keep gas prices stable.
我们逮捕了数十名腐败的加油站经理,以保持汽油价格稳定。
And I can't think of the last time I heard someone mention the sanctions, which killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and are now over.
我想不起上次听到有人提到制裁是什么时候了,制裁杀死了数十万伊拉克人,现在已经结束了。
We have no choice but to finish the job we started.
我们别无选择,只能完成我们开始的工作。
Anything less would be disastrous for the Iraqi people.
如果做不到这一点,对伊拉克人民来说将是灾难性的。
Anything less would mean that every person who died here did it for nothing.
如果少了一点,就意味着每一个死在这里的人都是白做的。
And Wise didn't die for nothing.
怀斯的死也不是无缘无故的。
I'm back in the US now.
我现在回到美国了。
I have a long and difficult road ahead of me.
我前面还有一条漫长而艰难的路。
Even once my foot is healed, it will take months of physical therapy before I can walk again.
即使我的脚痊愈了,我也需要几个月的物理治疗才能再次行走。
But the important thing is I will walk again.
但重要的是我会再次行走。
I get asked about my foot a lot.
我经常被问到关于我的脚的问题。
People ask me what happened or how I hurt it, in elevators, in the airport, asking about an apparently simple injury.
人们问我发生了什么事,或者我是如何受伤的,在电梯里,在机场,询问一个看似简单的伤害。
A foot in a thick ace bandage wrap seems to be acceptable small talk, like, nice weather today, huh?
脚上缠着厚厚的王牌绷带似乎是可以接受的闲聊,比如,今天天气不错,是吧?
It's not that I mind, it's just that it's awkward, because when I tell them what happened, they never know what to say.
并不是我介意,只是这很尴尬,因为当我告诉他们发生了什么事时,他们永远不知道该说什么。
It sounds so weird.
听起来很奇怪。
It was a roadside bomb in Baghdad.
这是巴格达的路边炸弹。
Sometimes I say it and it doesn't even sound true.
有时我这么说,但听起来并不真实。
I feel like I'm making it up.
我觉得我正在弥补。
Then there's the people who ask things like, how did you break it, or did you fall down the stairs, or the lady who said, oh, I had arch problems once.
然后有人会问诸如“你是怎么摔断的,或者你是不是从楼梯上摔下来的”之类的问题,或者那位女士说,哦,我曾经有过足弓问题。
Not like this, lady.
不是这样的,女士。
I guarantee you.
我向你保证。
When I tell people what happened, some people are really nice.
当我告诉人们发生了什么事时,有些人真的很好。
They shake my hand and thank me.
他们与我握手并向我表示感谢。
Others just say things like, wow, that sucks, or, oh, I'm sorry, and look slightly embarrassed.
其他人只是说,哇,这太糟糕了,或者,哦,对不起,并且看起来有点尴尬。
I feel weird saying it, and they feel weird hearing it.
我这么说感觉很奇怪,他们听也感觉很奇怪。
I've honestly considered telling people I sprained my ankle.
老实说,我考虑过告诉人们我扭伤了脚踝。
I think it may only be a matter of time before I do.
我认为这可能只是时间问题。
The third blogger is Colby Buzzell, who had a really popular blog, thousands of readers, called My War: Killing Time in Iraq.
第三位博主是 Colby Buzzell,他有一个非常受欢迎的博客,拥有数千名读者,名为“我的战争:在伊拉克消磨时间”。
Since he got back to the States, he's taken lots of these entries, added some new stuff, and published it as a book under the same name.
自从他回到美国后,他吸收了很多这样的条目,添加了一些新的东西,并以同名的书形式出版了。
He was a machine gunner in the Third Arrowhead Brigade Second Infantry Division out of Fort Lewis, serving in Mosul.
他是路易斯堡第二步兵师第三箭头旅的机枪手,在摩苏尔服役。
20 October, '03.
2003 年 10 月 20 日。
Another brief at Carey Theater.
凯里剧院的另一场简报。
The second half was about rules of engagement.
下半场是关于交战规则的。
A female captain came out and asked us a hypothetical, what-if question.
一位女船长走了出来,问了我们一个假设性的假设问题。
If your convoy was going under an overpass and there was women and children on the overpass throwing rocks down at us, what should you do?
如果你的车队正在立交桥下行驶,立交桥上有妇女和儿童向我们投掷石块,你该怎么办?
Do you shoot or not shoot?
你开枪还是不开枪?
The first answer that came to my head was, no. You don't engage.
我脑子里的第一个答案是:不。你不参与。
You don't fire unless you see a weapon, so, no, I would not fire.
除非你看到武器,否则你不会开枪,所以,不,我不会开枪。
I wonder why she said, women and children, like why not say, people, instead, or was women and children for effect?
我不知道她为什么说,妇女和儿童,就像为什么不说,人民,而是,或者是妇女和儿童的效果?
One soldier in the auditorium instantly yelled out, light 'em up, which was followed by some laughter.
礼堂里的一名士兵立即喊道:“点燃它们”,随后引发一阵笑声。
But there was also people in the auditorium that disagreed with the light 'em up answer.
但礼堂里也有人不同意点亮灯光的答案。
As soldiers were debating with each other on what should be done in a situation like that, the battalion commander stepped up, and I could tell that he wasn't really digging on what this captain was trying to do here.
当士兵们互相争论在这种情况下应该做什么时,营长站了出来,我看得出来,他并没有真正探究这位上尉在这里想做什么。
And he asked us all a non-hypothetical question.
他问了我们所有人一个非假设性的问题。
How many of you been in combat?
你们有多少人参加过战斗?
Several people raised their hands.
几个人举起了手。
The captain, I noticed, did not.
我注意到,船长没有这么做。
How many of you have been shot at?
你们有多少人被枪击过?
Almost all the raised hands stayed raised.
几乎所有举起的手都保持举起状态。
Then you understand that it doesn't matter if it's a woman or a child.
然后你就会明白,无论是女人还是孩子,都没有关系。
If they have a weapon, they have a weapon.
如果他们有武器,他们就有武器。
If you feel threatened, you feel threatened.
如果你感到受到威胁,你就会感到受到威胁。
He then told us all not to worry about doing the right thing, that if we wanted to do the right thing to go out and rent a Spike Lee movie.
然后他告诉我们大家不要担心做正确的事,如果我们想做正确的事就出去租一部斯派克·李的电影。
He then stressed to us that if we felt threatened, pull the trigger.
然后他向我们强调,如果我们感到受到威胁,就扣动扳机。
It's better to be safe than sorry.
安全总比后悔好。
Better him dead than you.
他死了总比你死好。
We were engaged in a huge fire fight at the [UNINTELLIGIBLE] police station and the mosque next door to it.
我们在[无法辨认]警察局和隔壁的清真寺发生了一场大火。
It took hours.
花了几个小时。
Then at the end, the ING, Iraqi National Guard, showed up.
最后,伊拉克国民警卫队 ING 出现了。
Our platoon leader chose a couple soldiers from our platoon to talk to the media, who wanted to find out what went down today in Mosul.
我们的排长从我们排中挑选了几名士兵来接受媒体采访,他们想了解今天摩苏尔发生了什么。
A high ranking army public affairs officer, a lieutenant colonel, briefed them on what they could and could not say.
一名高级陆军公共事务官员,一名中校,向他们简要介绍了他们可以说什么和不能说什么。
All three told me that he stressed to them to tell the media that the insurgents fired first, and we were there just to return fire, which is true.
这三个人都告诉我,他强调要他们告诉媒体,叛乱分子首先开枪,我们只是为了还击,这是事实。
But he also told them, do not say that TOW missiles were used in the attack, but to instead say, internal weapon systems were used.
但他也告诉他们,不要说袭击中使用了陶式导弹,而是说使用了内部武器系统。
Whatever.
任何。
That's no big deal.
这没什么大不了的。
That's like saying instead of telling the media that you returned fire with your M-4, tell them that you returned fire with your self defense mechanism.
这就像告诉媒体你用自卫装置还击,而不是告诉媒体你用 M-4 还击。
But then he told them to flat out lie when he said, do not mention the fact that the Iraqi police fled from the mosque and the police station, how they didn't even put up a fight, but instead, tell the media that they fought well and did an excellent job.
但随后他让他们撒谎,他说,不要提伊拉克警察逃离清真寺和警察局的事实,他们甚至没有进行战斗,而是告诉媒体,他们战斗得很好,做得很好。
To make sure I'd never run out of reading material, I subscribed to as many magazines as possible before I left the States.
为了确保我永远不会读完阅读材料,我在离开美国之前订阅了尽可能多的杂志。
I went to the mag rack at the PX and grabbed as many of those annoying subscription slips as I could.
我去了 PX 的杂志架,尽可能多地抓起那些烦人的订阅单。
I find that infantry men are into macho testosterone literature when it comes to monthly periodicals, mags like 4X4 Monthly, Guns & Ammo, Outdoor World, Soldier of Fortune, which I subscribe to just for the articles, and, of course, the soft core bubble gum skin mags, like Maxim, FHM, and Stuff.
我发现步兵们对月刊、像《4X4 Monthly》、《Guns & Ammo》、《Outdoor World》、《Soldier of Fortune》这样的杂志很感兴趣,我只是为了文章而订阅这些杂志,当然还有像《Maxim》、《FHM》和《Stuff》这样的软核泡泡糖皮肤杂志。
Pornography in magazines, like Playboy and Penthouse, are, of course, not allowed in Iraq for reasons that have to do with not offending anyone and being sensitive to the Islamic culture or some [BLEEP] like that.
当然,《花花公子》和《阁楼》等杂志中的色情内容在伊拉克是不允许的,原因是不冒犯任何人以及对伊斯兰文化或类似的[BLEEP]敏感。
So I subscribed to magazines that I liked, but knew not a lot of other soldiers read, like Thrasher, MAD, National Geographic, TIME, and Details.
所以我订阅了自己喜欢的杂志,但我知道其他士兵读的杂志并不多,比如《Thrasher》、《MAD》、《国家地理》、《时代》和《细节》。
To this day, I seriously have no idea why the [BLEEP] I subscribed to Details, which I caught a lot of hell for and brought up a bunch of questions about my sexuality among fellow squad members.
直到今天,我真的不知道为什么我订阅了“细节”,我为此陷入了很多地狱,并向其他小队成员提出了一堆关于我的性取向的问题。
Every mail call, I would dread whenever the new issue would arrive, because my squad leader would read off the name of whoever the letter or package was addressed to.
每次打电话,我都会担心新一期的邮件到达,因为我的班长会读出信件或包裹的收件人姓名。
Then he'd flip it over and show the rest of the squad the cover, which would always be some sexy cover shot of like Vin Diesel or Justin Timberlake.
然后他会把它翻过来,向团队的其他成员展示封面,这总是像范·迪塞尔或贾斯汀·汀布莱克这样的性感封面照片。
Then he'd throw the mag at me and say something like, don't ask, don't tell.
然后他会把杂志扔给我并说一些类似的话,不要问,不要说。
Of course, every one in my squad would get a laugh out of this and say things like, dude, you're a homo.
当然,我班里的每个人都会因此而大笑,并说,老兄,你是个同性恋。
And I, of course, would feel the need to explain myself.
当然,我觉得有必要解释一下自己。
Look, dude, Details is not a mag for gay people.
听着,伙计,《Details》不是一本为同性恋者准备的杂志。
Check it out.
一探究竟。
There's tons of hot chicks in it.
里面有很多辣妹。
And I would open it up and flip through the pages and try to prove to the guys in my squad that Details was a totally hetero mag, which kind of backfired on me, because when I did this, every single page that I opened to was a full page photo of some girly man doing his best Zoolander.
我会打开它并翻阅页面,并试图向我的团队中的人证明《Details》是一本完全异性恋杂志,这对我来说适得其反,因为当我这样做时,我打开的每一页都是某个少女男人正在做他最好的《超级英雄》的整页照片。
Thursday, August 4, 2004.
2004 年 8 月 4 日,星期四。
Men in black.
黑衣男子。
I was in my room reading a book, Thin Red Line, when the mortar started coming down.
当迫击炮开始落下时,我正在房间里看书《细细的红线》。
Usually when we get mortared, it's usually one or maybe two mortars.
通常,当我们受到迫击炮攻击时,通常是一发或两发迫击炮。
But this mortar attack went on for like 20 minutes.
但这次迫击炮袭击持续了大约20分钟。
Sergeant Horrach ripped open the door and yelled, grab your guys and go down to the motor pool.
霍拉赫中士打开车门,大喊,带上你们的人,到汽车池去。
The whole battalion is rolling out.
全营正在出动。
Holy [BLEEP].
天哪[哔]。
The whole battalion?
全营?
This must be big.
这一定很大。
One by one, the strikers were rolling out of the motor pool ready to hunt down whoever was [BLEEP] with us.
罢工者一一从车队中滚出,准备追捕与我们一起[哔]的人。
Soldiers in the hatches of the vehicles were hooting and hollering and doing the Indian yell thing as they drove off and locked and loaded their weapons.
车舱内的士兵一边叫喊、大喊大叫,一边做着印第安人的喊叫动作,然后开走,锁上武器并装弹。
As I turned on all our computers and radios inside our vehicle to get ready to roll out, I heard on the radio that the [BLEEP] was hitting the fan all over Mosul.
当我打开车内所有的电脑和收音机准备出发时,我从收音机中听到[BLEEP]正在摩苏尔各地的风扇上响起。
Large amounts of AIF, anti-Iraqi forces, were attacking us with small arms, IEDs, and RPG fire.
大量 AIF(反伊拉克部队)使用小型武器、简易爆炸装置和火箭弹攻击我们。
And there was a bunch of people wearing all black armed with AK-47s all over Mosul.
摩苏尔各地都有一群身穿黑衣、手持 AK-47 的人。
I was sticking out of my hatch behind the 50 cal.
我站在 50 cal 后面的舱口外。
I glanced over to the left side of the vehicle at which time I observed a man, dressed in all black with a terrorist beard, jump out all of a sudden from the side of a building.
我向车子左侧看了一眼,这时我看到一个身穿黑衣、留着恐怖胡须的男子突然从一栋大楼的侧面跳了出来。
He pointed his AK barrel right at my [BLEEP] pupils.
他把他的 AK 枪管对准我的[BLEEP]瞳孔。
I saw the fire from his muzzle flash leaving the end of his AK as he was shooting directly at me.
当他直接向我射击时,我看到他的 AK 末端的枪口闪光留下了火焰。
I heard and felt the bullets whiz literally inches from my head, hitting all around my hatch and 50 cal mount, making a ping, ping, ping sound.
我听到并感觉到子弹距离我的头几英寸远,击中了我的舱口和 50 口径枪口周围,发出“叮、叮、叮”的声音。
We were driving down route Tampa.
我们沿着坦帕路线行驶。
All hell suddenly came down around us.
一切地狱突然降临在我们周围。
Out of nowhere, all these guys wearing all black, a couple dozen on each side of the street and rooftops, alleys, edge of buildings, out of windows, everywhere, just came out out of nowhere and started unloading on us.
突然间,这些全黑的家伙,街道两旁、屋顶、小巷、建筑物边缘、窗外、到处都有几十个,就这样突然出现,开始向我们卸货。
IEDs were being ignited on both sides of the street.
街道两侧的简易爆炸装置都被点燃。
I freaked the [BLEEP] and ducked down in the hatch, and I yelled over the radio, holy [BLEEP].
我吓坏了[BLEEP]并躲进了舱口,然后我通过无线电大喊,神圣的[BLEEP]。
We got [BLEEP] Hajis all over the [BLEEP] place.
我们在[BLEEP]地方到处都是[BLEEP] Hajis。
They're all over, god damn it.
他们都结束了,该死的。
Bullets were pinging all over our armor, and you could hear multiple RPGs being fired and soaring through the air in every which way, and impacting all around us.
子弹打在我们的装甲上,你可以听到多枚火箭弹发射并以各种方式在空中飞翔,撞击我们周围的一切。
All sorts of crazy, insane Hollywood explosions were going off.
各种疯狂、疯狂的好莱坞大爆炸正在上演。
I was like, this is it.
我当时想,就是这样。
I'm going to die.
我要死了。
I cannot put into words how scared I was.
我无法用语言表达我有多么害怕。
The vehicle in front of us, Bravo Victor 2 1 was getting hit by multiple RPGs.
我们前面的车辆 Bravo Victor 2 1 被多枚火箭弹击中。
I kind of lost it and was yelling and screaming all sorts of things, mostly cuss words.
我有点迷失了,大喊大叫,发出各种各样的声音,大部分都是脏话。
With RPGs still flying, our driver floored it, pedal to the metal, and red lined the vehicle right through the ambush as fast as he could.
由于火箭弹仍在飞行,我们的司机将车踩到底,猛踩油门,以最快的速度将车辆划出红线,穿过伏击区。
Finally, we fired our way out of the kill zone and made our way over to bridge five.
最后,我们开枪冲出了杀伤区,到达了五号桥。
We parked the vehicle and dismounted.
我们停好车,下了车。
I lit up a smoke and started to scan my sector.
我点了一根烟,开始扫描我的区域。
The Pepsi bottling plant across the street was all up in flames.
街对面的百事可乐装瓶厂全部着火。
Then after a couple minutes we were told to load back up and go back to where we got ambushed.
几分钟后,我们被告知要重新装弹并返回我们遭到伏击的地方。
I'm not going to lie.
我不会撒谎。
I didn't want to go back.
我不想回去。
I didn't want to get killed.
我不想被杀。
I was scared to death, but we had to go back, and we did.
我吓得要死,但我们必须回去,我们就回去了。
We drove back to the area where we had just dodged death and were taking fire from all over.
我们开车回到刚刚躲过一死的地方,周围正遭到炮火袭击。
I fired and fired and fired and fired at everything.
我向一切事物开火、开火、开火、开火。
We were running low on 50 cal ammunition at this point, and my platoon sergeant, Sergeant Horner, told me to reload.
此时我们的 50 口径弹药已所剩无几,我的排中士霍纳中士告诉我重新装弹。
He told me that the ammo was dropped down on the outside of the vehicle over on the right side.
他告诉我,弹药掉落在车辆右侧的外侧。
Why the [BLEEP] would the ammo for the 50 cal be on the outside of the vehicle?
为什么 [BLEEP] 50 口径的弹药会位于车辆外部?
With my hands I did the sign of the cross on my chest, said a prayer, please, God, I don't want to [BLEEP] die.
我用手在胸前画了十字,祈祷上帝啊,求你了,我不想[哔]死。
And as my platoon sergeant laid down some suppressive fire with his M-4, I got up out of the hatch, got my whole body completely out of the vehicle, and walked on the top of our vehicle to find the box of 50 cal ammunition.
当我的排中士用他的 M-4 进行压制性火力攻击时,我从舱门中起身,将整个身体完全从车辆中移出,然后走到车顶找到一盒 50 口径弹药。
I was shaking and scared out of my [BLEEP] mind as I did this, and thinking to myself that having ammo located on the outside of the vehicle has got to be the dumbest, [BLEEP] idea in the world, and whoever thought of that idea should be [BLEEP] shot.
当我这样做的时候,我浑身发抖,吓得魂飞魄散,心想把弹药放在车外肯定是世界上最愚蠢的想法,无论是谁想到这个想法都应该被枪杀。
I saw a crowd of people suspiciously peeking around a corner at us.
我看到一群人在角落里疑惑地看着我们。
I pointed this out to Sergeant Horner and asked him what I should do.
我向霍纳中士指出了这一点,并问他我应该做什么。
As he was shooting nonstop from his hatch in the heat of the moment, he told me to just [BLEEP] shoot them, and he explained to me that these people have no [BLEEP] business out on the street whatsoever right now.
当他一时激动地从舱口不停地射击时,他告诉我只要[哔]射击他们,他向我解释说这些人现在在街上没有[哔]生意。
So I pointed the crosshairs at them, but then I moved it right above their heads and fired a burst, which got them to disperse in a hurry.
于是我把十字准星对准了他们,但随后我把十字准星移到了他们的头顶上方并开了一枪,这让他们匆忙散开。
I could tell that they were just spectators.
我看得出来,他们只是旁观者。
Suddenly, about 300 meters away from us, over by the traffic circle, I saw two guys with those red and white jihad towels wrapped around their heads creeping around a corner.
突然,在距离我们大约300米的地方,在交通环岛那边,我看到两个头上缠着红白圣战毛巾的家伙从拐角处爬了过来。
They were hunched down hiding behind a stack of tires.
他们弯腰躲在一堆轮胎后面。
I could tell by their body language something was up.
我可以从他们的肢体语言看出有什么事情发生了。
I placed the crosshairs on them and was about to [BLEEP] waste them, but for some reason I didn't pull the trigger.
我把十字准线放在它们上面,正要[哔]浪费它们,但出于某种原因我没有扣动扳机。
These guys were not dressed in black like the guys earlier, and from what I could see, they didn't have any weapons on them.
这些家伙不像之前的那些人那样穿着黑色衣服,而且据我所见,他们身上也没有携带任何武器。
Something told me that I should just wait one, maybe two, more seconds.
有件事告诉我,我应该再等一秒钟,也许两秒钟。
Then I saw another guy creeping around that corner with an RPG in his hand.
然后我看到另一个人手里拿着一个角色扮演游戏从那个角落爬过来。
As soon as I saw that, I yelled, RPG, as loud as I could into the CVC.
我一看到这个,就对着 CVC 大声喊道,RPG。
My crosshairs were bouncing all over, so I gather my composure as fast as I could, put the crosshairs on them, and engaged them with a good 10 round bursts of some 50 cal right at them.
我的十字准线到处跳动,所以我尽快镇定下来,将十字准星放在他们身上,并用大约 50 卡的火力向他们发射了 10 发子弹。
Nobody moved from behind those tires after that.
此后没有人从轮胎后面走开。
This gun fight has been going on for four and a half hours when the ING's, Iraqi National Guard, finally showed up to the party-- about [BLEEP] time-- in their ING pickup trucks all jam packed with ING soldiers in uniform armed with AK-47s.
这场枪战已经持续了四个半小时,当 ING 伊拉克国民警卫队终于在他们的 ING 皮卡车里出现在聚会上时——大约是[哔]声——卡车上挤满了身穿制服、手持 AK-47 步枪的 ING 士兵。
We had to return to FOB Marez as we were running extremely low on fuel, ammo, and water, so we all mounted up and drove back to the FOB.
我们不得不返回马雷兹离岸点,因为我们的燃料、弹药和水都快用完了,所以我们都上马开车返回离岸点。
I was smoking like a chimney, one right after another.
我像烟囱一样冒着烟,一个接着一个。
My nerves were completely shot, and I was emotionally drained, and I noticed that my hands were still kind of shaking.
我的神经完全崩溃了,我的情绪也被耗尽了,我注意到我的手仍然有点颤抖。
I was thinking how lucky I was to be alive.
我在想我能活着是多么幸运。
I've never experienced anything like the fear I felt today.
我从来没有经历过像今天这样的恐惧。
A couple times today I thought about that guy who jumped out from the corner of that building with that angry look on his face when he pointed the AK at my head and pulled the trigger.
今天我有几次想起那个从大楼角落跳出来的家伙,当他用 AK 指着我的头并扣动扳机时,他脸上带着愤怒的表情。
The attacks on my platoon up to this point had been just chicken [BLEEP], hit and run bull [BLEEP].
到目前为止,对我排的攻击只是胆小鬼[BLEEP],打了就跑的公牛[BLEEP]。
Every time we'd get hit, they'd be nowhere in sight.
每次我们被击中时,他们都不见踪影。
These guys today were on the offensive.
这些家伙今天处于进攻状态。
They held their ground and showed no fear of us whatsoever.
他们坚守阵地,丝毫不惧怕我们。
Before that ambush, I received a lot of emails from people and I'd just scan over them briefly, but then when I posted the men in black entry, my blog blew up like an IED on route Tampa.
在那次伏击之前,我收到了很多人发来的电子邮件,我只是简单地浏览了一下,但当我发布黑衣人的条目时,我的博客就像坦帕路线上的简易爆炸装置一样爆炸了。
I was getting emails from people all over the United States, Europe, Canada, South America, as well as soldiers in Kuwait, Afghanistan, and Iraq.
我收到了来自美国、欧洲、加拿大、南美洲各地的人们以及科威特、阿富汗和伊拉克士兵的电子邮件。
Soldiers I didn't even know at FOB Marez were emailing me.
一些我在 FOB Marez 根本不认识的士兵给我发了电子邮件。
Even the helicopter pilots that flew above us on missions were emailing.
甚至在我们上空执行任务的直升机飞行员也在发电子邮件。
That's when I knew my blog was huge, once I started getting emails from the helicopter pilots.
当我开始收到直升机飞行员的电子邮件时,我就知道我的博客很大了。
Every now and then I'd get an email that said things like, thank you for serving.
我时不时会收到一封电子邮件,上面写着“谢谢您的服务”之类的内容。
I enjoyed your articles until you took off with the bad words.
我很喜欢你的文章,直到你说出脏话为止。
I, for one, am sorry that I won't be able to read about your experiences anymore.
就我而言,很抱歉我无法再阅读您的经历。
I always ignored and deleted those kinds of emails.
我总是忽略并删除此类电子邮件。
[BLEEP] them.
[哔]他们。
If they don't like the swear words, they can go read somebody else's [BLEEP] blog.
如果他们不喜欢脏话,他们可以去阅读别人的 [BLEEP] 博客。
About a week or so before this in the back of the Striker during a mounted patrol, Specialst Cummings asked me if I knew anything about a soldier in Mosul who did a blog.
大约一周前,在一次骑马巡逻中,在“前锋”号后面,特种兵卡明斯问我是否了解摩苏尔一名写博客的士兵。
Habee and I just kind of looked at each other, and I asked Cummings why.
哈比和我只是互相看了一眼,我问卡明斯为什么。
He told me that his parents emailed him, asking him if he knew anything about it.
他告诉我,他的父母给他发了电子邮件,问他是否知道这件事。
Habee and I just laughed, so I told Cummings all about it.
哈比和我只是笑了,所以我把这一切都告诉了卡明斯。
And he told me all about how his father saves all the entries that I write on a separate file and goes through it all and deletes all the cuss words and swear words out of it, so that way his mom could be able to read it.
他告诉我,他的父亲如何将我写的所有条目保存在一个单独的文件中,并仔细检查所有内容,并删除其中所有的脏话和脏话,这样他的妈妈就可以阅读它。
Sergeant Horrachs sister also read the blog, and she emailed Horrachs to have him tell me to save the profanities for the movie.
霍拉克斯中士的妹妹也读了这个博客,她给霍拉克斯发了一封电子邮件,让他告诉我在电影中保留那些脏话。
Honestly, I didn't even realize that I was swearing as much as I was.
老实说,我什至没有意识到我说了那么多脏话。
Sometimes I'd get an email that hit close to home and put everything into perspective.
有时我会收到一封电子邮件,它切中要害,让我正确地看待所有事情。
Like the email I received from the mother who lost a son here in Mosul several days before he was supposed to return home on R&R.
就像我从一位母亲那里收到的电子邮件一样,她在摩苏尔失去了一个儿子,几天前他本应回家休养。
She thanked me for writing about what was going on.
她感谢我写下所发生的事情。
She said, I read many entries and felt blessed, comforted in a way, as you have given me a peek into what my son had experienced in Mosul.
她说,我读了很多文章,在某种程度上感到幸福和安慰,因为你让我了解了我儿子在摩苏尔的经历。
You have thoughts like he would have had, I think.
我想,你的想法和他一样。
I just want to thank you for sharing in this way.
我只是想感谢您以这种方式分享。
God works through people by stirring their hearts and sometimes people never know how they're helping others.
神通过触动人们的心来工作,有时人们永远不知道他们是如何帮助别人的。
I thank you, pray for your safety, and your safe return home.
我感谢你们,祈祷你们平安,平安回家。
I read her email, and I sat there at the computer monitor for a moment.
我读了她的电子邮件,然后在电脑显示器前坐了一会儿。
And I didn't know what to say.
我不知道该说什么。
What do you say to someone who's lost a son here?
你对在这里失去儿子的人说什么?
I don't know if I did the right thing-- probably not-- but I never wrote her back.
我不知道我做的是否正确——可能不是——但我从未给她回信。
I didn't know what to write.
我不知道该写什么。
Colby Buzzell.
科尔比·巴泽尔。
His book based on writing from his blog is called, My War: Killing Time in Iraq.
他根据自己的博客撰写的书名为《我的战争:在伊拉克消磨时间》。
We also heard from Trueman Muhrer-Irwin, who recently was tattooed with his friend, Wise's name.
我们还收到了 Trueman Muhrer-Irwin 的来信,他最近纹上了他朋友 Wise 的名字。
His foot is healed now.
现在他的脚已经痊愈了。
And Chuck Ziegenfuss.
还有查克·齐根福斯。
He's at Walter Reed Medical Hospital for surgeries, trying to recover feeling in his left hand after being injured by an IED.
他在沃尔特·里德医疗医院接受手术,试图恢复被简易爆炸装置炸伤的左手的感觉。
Web addresses at our website, thisamericanlife.org.
我们网站的网址为 thisamericanlife.org。
Our website, where you can listen to our shows for absolutely free or do your Christmas shopping.
我们的网站,您可以在其中完全免费收听我们的节目或进行圣诞购物。
You can buy programs on CD, Best of collections, our comic book and, especially, the DVD of the story I did with cartoonist Chris Ware.
您可以购买 CD 节目、精选集、我们的漫画书,尤其是我与漫画家 Chris Ware 合作的故事的 DVD。
That's at www.thisamericanlife.org.
网址为 www.thisamericanlife.org。
You know you can download today's program in our archives at audible.com/thisamericanlife.
您知道,您可以在我们的档案库中下载今天的节目:audible.com/thisamericanlife。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight for our program by Mr. Torey Malatia, who came by our office this morning with doughnuts-- yes, doughnuts-- and a warning.
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理部门由 Torey Malatia 先生对我们的项目进行监督,他今天早上带着甜甜圈——是的,甜甜圈——来到我们的办公室,并发出了警告。
Please don't expect every white person who comes to do this.
请不要指望每个来的白人都会这样做。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
Is that that show by those hipster know-it-alls who talk about how fascinating ordinary people are?
这是那些谈论普通人有多么迷人的时髦万事通的节目吗?
[SIGH] God.
[叹气]上帝。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作,并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。