297: This Is Not My Beautiful House - This American Life
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Prologue Ira Glass In Houston it's Tuesday at the Astrodome complex.
序言 Ira Glass 周二，休斯敦 Astrodome 体育馆。
We still had thousands of evacuees from New Orleans at that point.
当时我们仍有数千名从新奥尔良撤离的人员。
There were these tables with hand-lettered signs on poster board-- they read Florida, New York, Colorado-- basically offering to relocate evacuees to those states.
这些桌子上的海报板上有手写的标语——上面写着佛罗里达州、纽约州、科罗拉多州——基本上是提议将撤离人员重新安置到这些州。
This wasn't the state governments doing this.
这不是州政府这样做的。
This was private charities and churches from those states, and they're making some incredibly generous offers.
这是来自这些州的私人慈善机构和教堂，他们正在提供一些令人难以置信的慷慨援助。
I think that people should come to Colorado because we've got the best deal going.
我认为人们应该来科罗拉多州，因为我们有最好的交易。
Andrea [?
安德里亚[?
Ames ?] was manning the Colorado table on behalf of three different charities there.
艾姆斯？] 代表科罗拉多州三个不同的慈善机构负责管理科罗拉多州的餐桌。
And the deal she's offering?
她提供的交易是什么？
It's free housing that's been donated by citizens of Colorado for anywhere from six months to a year.
这是科罗拉多州公民捐赠的免费住房，期限从六个月到一年不等。
They've also promised to furnish the houses, fill them with groceries for that six-month time, job training, and a job.
他们还承诺在这六个月的时间内为房屋提供家具、食品杂货、职业培训和工作。
But incredibly, even though this deal did seem to be the very best deal going at the Astrodome complex, people from New Orleans don't want this deal.
但令人难以置信的是，尽管这笔交易似乎确实是阿斯特罗多姆综合体育馆最好的交易，但来自新奥尔良的人们并不想要这笔交易。
For the first two weeks our team was here, there was no one going at all.
我们团队来这里的前两周，根本没有人去。
There was no one signing up.
没有人报名。
It took me three days-- I had one specific offer-- it took me three days to give away one free three-bedroom, two-bathroom house, free car, free insurance for a year, free schooling for the kids, one job at Coca Cola, one job with Wal-Mart.
我花了三天时间——我有一个具体的报价——我花了三天时间免费赠送一套三居室、两浴室的房子、免费汽车、一年的免费保险、孩子们的免费教育、一份可口可乐的工作、一份沃尔玛的工作。
It took me three days to get someone to take it.
我花了三天时间才请人来接手。
And why?
为什么？
Andrea Ames Everybody said, if I come to Colorado, I'm going to freeze to death.
安德里亚·艾姆斯 每个人都说，如果我来到科罗拉多州，我就会被冻死。
Everyone thinks they're going to die.
每个人都认为他们会死。
Everyone thinks we all live in Alaska and it snows every day all year around and that we're all going to freeze to death.
每个人都认为我们都生活在阿拉斯加，一年四季每天都在下雪，我们都会被冻死。
They really say, I can't go there, I'm going to die.
他们真的说，我不能去那里，我会死。
We aren't like you.
我们不像你。
We don't live like that.
我们不是那样生活的。
That's been the biggest conversation I've had probably the most.
这是我经历过的最重要的一次谈话，也可能是最多的一次。
Which is all hard enough for Andrea to deal with on its face, but then there's the added indignity that her candidates then go two tables down and get snapped up by Florida.
这对安德里亚来说已经很难从表面上处理了，但接下来还有更多的侮辱，她的候选人随后下了两张桌子，被佛罗里达抢走了。
Actually, we had a young lady-- as a matter of fact, the family just left today-- that we just flew out of here today.
事实上，我们有一位年轻的女士——事实上，她的家人今天刚刚离开——我们今天刚刚飞离这里。
Kevin [?
凯文[?
Lillibride ?] at the Florida table.
利利布莱德？] 在佛罗里达的餐桌上。
And they were considering Colorado, and that was the issue.
他们正在考虑科罗拉多州，这就是问题所在。
It was the difference between snow and sun, and we just looked at them and said, really, what's holding you up?
这就是雪和阳光之间的区别，我们只是看着它们然后说，真的，是什么阻碍了你？
We have sun, and they have snow.
我们有阳光，他们有雪。
So it helps us out when they go talk to Colorado, because then they come down here to talk to us.
因此，当他们去科罗拉多州交谈时，这对我们很有帮助，因为他们会来这里与我们交谈。
It works in our favor.
这对我们有利。
The only problem with Florida, of course, is something that everybody from New Orleans pretty much has a low tolerance for at this point: hurricanes.
当然，佛罗里达州唯一的问题是新奥尔良的每个人目前对飓风的容忍度都很低。
Still, as of Tuesday, the guys at the Florida table got 43 families to relocate.
尽管如此，截至周二，佛罗里达谈判桌上的人们还是让 43 个家庭搬迁。
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I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
So this past week, somewhere between 400,000 and a million people, including an entire city, New Orleans, were scattered across the country, the biggest mass resettlement in our country since the Civil War.
因此，在过去的一周，大约有 40 万到 100 万人，包括新奥尔良整个城市，分散在全国各地，这是自内战以来我国最大规模的一次重新安置。
And we went out to document some of what was happening as these people tried to figure out what happens next in their lives, where they're going to live.
我们出去记录了一些正在发生的事情，因为这些人试图弄清楚他们的生活接下来会发生什么，他们将住在哪里。
Two producers from our radio show, Lisa Pollak and Jane Feltes, and I flew from our home base in Chicago to Houston.
我们广播节目的两位制作人丽莎·波拉克（Lisa Pollak）和简·费尔特斯（Jane Feltes）和我从芝加哥的总部飞往休斯顿。
Houston is where between 150,000 and 200,000 hurricane evacuees went after the hurricane.
飓风过后，有 15 万至 20 万飓风撤离者前往休斯敦。
One man I talked to down there who was looking for housing said that he felt like he was living in a gold rush town, so many people scrambling for all the same things all at the same time.
我在那里采访的一位正在寻找住房的男子说，他感觉自己生活在一个淘金热的小镇里，很多人同时争先恐后地寻找同样的东西。
Today, we bring you stories from the Astrodome, and of people simply trying to find places to live.
今天，我们为您带来来自阿斯特罗多姆体育馆的故事，以及人们只是试图寻找居住地的故事。
Plus, back in New Orleans, certain business owners in certain areas are being allowed back this weekend.
另外，回到新奥尔良，某些地区的某些企业主本周末将被允许返回。
Nick Spitzer drives through deserted streets to his own house, where he feels like a stranger and a looter.
尼克·斯皮策开车穿过荒凉的街道回到自己的家，在那里他感觉自己像个陌生人和抢劫者。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
It was actually Jane who talked to people at the various state tables, and she says eventually Colorado did actually manage to get some people to relocate.
实际上是简在各个州的桌子上与人们交谈，她说最终科罗拉多州确实设法让一些人搬迁。
They got 35 people after two weeks of trying.
经过两周的努力，他们招募了 35 名员工。
And the reason people finally said yes was desperation.
人们最终答应的原因是绝望。
FEMA let everyone know that the temporary housing was ending, hotel vouchers were ending for families that were in hotels, and people were being moved out of the Astrodome.
联邦紧急事务管理局 (FEMA) 通知所有人，临时住房即将结束，入住酒店的家庭的酒店优惠券即将结束，人们将被搬出阿斯特罗多姆体育馆。
First in line for the bus to Colorado were twin sisters, [?
第一个排队乘坐前往科罗拉多州巴士的是双胞胎姐妹，[？
Coquin ?] and [?
科昆？]和[？
Kayla.
凯拉。
?] They're six.
？] 他们六岁。
And here's what they know about the place they're about to move.
以下是他们对即将搬迁的地方的了解。
I know that it's beautiful.
我知道它很美丽。
It's a beautiful place, and it has lots of mountains.
这是一个美丽的地方，而且有很多山。
And I know that it's so beautiful, anybody will want to go there.
我知道它是如此美丽，任何人都会想去那里。
Where did you hear that?
你从哪里听说的？
Girl 1 I heard it from a snow movie, like Snow Dogs.
女孩 1 我是从一部雪地电影中听到的，比如《雪狗》。
You know Snow Dogs?
你知道雪狗吗？
It took place in-- what's the name of the place again?
事情发生在——那个地方叫什么名字？
Colorado.
科罗拉多州。
Jane Feltes How's the last couple of weeks been?
Jane Feltes 过去几周过得怎么样？
It's like [INTERPOSING VOICES] adventure.
这就像[插入声音]冒险。
Let me say it.
让我说一下。
It's like an adventure.
这就像一场冒险。
We been almost everywhere.
我们几乎去过所有地方。
We had so much fun.
我们玩得很开心。
We went to Baton Rouge, went to the shelter, and then Alexandria, then back to Baton Rouge, then to Houston.
我们去了巴吞鲁日，去了避难所，然后去了亚历山大，然后回到巴吞鲁日，然后回到了休斯顿。
We had to live in a hotel, the Scottish.
我们不得不住在一家苏格兰酒店。
Yeah, the Scottish Hotel and Suites.
是的，苏格兰酒店及套房。
That's what it said.
就是这么说的。
When I talked to their mom, [?
当我和他们的妈妈说话时，[？
Coquina, ?] she said that they overheard her talking on the phone telling a friend that the last few weeks have really been an adventure.
Coquina，？]她说他们无意中听到她在电话里告诉一位朋友，过去几周真的是一次冒险。
She was being sarcastic, but the girls picked it up.
她的语气是讽刺，但女孩们却听明白了。
And just as well.
也同样如此。
It took a little more convincing for their mom.
他们的妈妈需要更有说服力。
I saw that New York, the cost of living is too high to start there.
我看到纽约的生活成本太高，无法从那里开始。
And I thought, I don't want to go to Florida by any more storms, so Colorado seems safe.
我想，我不想再受暴风雨影响去佛罗里达，所以科罗拉多州看起来很安全。
And why not Houston?
为什么不是休斯顿？
Coquina Well, I was trying to establish in Houston, but like I said, I only had 14 days to get everything done.
Coquina 嗯，我想在休斯敦建立公司，但正如我所说，我只有 14 天的时间来完成所有工作。
Otherwise, we'd be on the street trying to get it done.
否则，我们就会在街上试图完成它。
So when I heard Colorado, I jumped on there.
所以当我听到科罗拉多州时，我就跳了起来。
Oh Jane, you ought to be ashamed, you let a boy kiss you and you don't know his name.
哦，简，你应该感到羞耻，你让一个男孩吻了你，而你却不知道他的名字。
At this point, the girls decided I was done talking to their mom, and they wanted the microphone back, which they suddenly realized was real, and I actually was from the radio, and they had business.
此时，女孩们决定我和她们妈妈的谈话结束了，她们想要回麦克风，她们突然意识到这是真的，我实际上是来自广播的，她们有生意。
About the hurricane and our sister and brother, we can't find them.
关于飓风和我们的兄弟姐妹，我们找不到他们。
No. When Katrina hit, we never heard from since we left.
没有。卡特里娜飓风来袭后，我们离开后就再也没有消息。
If [?
如果 [？
Kiana ?] and Jamal is listening to this, we love you and we miss you.
基亚娜？]贾马尔正在听这个，我们爱你，我们想念你。
We met lots of people at the Astrodome who were still missing friends and family.
我们在阿斯特罗多姆体育馆遇到了很多仍然想念朋友和家人的人。
There's an office that reunites families, with lists of survivors and their locations, but their moms says the last time they saw Jamal and [?
有一个让家人团聚的办公室，上面有幸存者名单和他们的位置，但他们的妈妈说他们最后一次见到贾马尔和[？
Kiana ?] was when she dropped them off with their dad and grandparents in New Orleans before evacuating, just before the storm.
基亚娜？] 就在风暴来临之前，她在疏散之前将他们送到了新奥尔良的父亲和祖父母那里。
She's acting confident that they're OK, so the girls are acting confident too.
她表现得自信她们没事，所以女孩们也表现得自信。
Act Two, There's No Place Like Dome.
第二幕，没有比圆顶更好的地方了。
So what was it like this week in those huge buildings that were housing evacuees in Houston?
那么本周休斯敦那些容纳疏散人员的巨大建筑里情况如何呢？
Well, the first thing you noticed when you walked into the Astrodome or the Reliant Convention Center, where people were living, was the noise.
嗯，当你走进人们居住的 Astrodome 或 Reliant 会议中心时，你注意到的第一件事就是噪音。
James Scott, James Scott, pick up at the front gate.
詹姆斯·斯科特，詹姆斯·斯科特，在前门接人。
Tyrone Scott is waiting for you.
泰隆·斯科特正在等你。
PA announcements went on all day and into the night.
广播电台的公告整天持续到深夜。
In the center of the Astrodome, the area there where the cots were, because you were right under the center of the dome itself, it echoed like crazy.
在阿斯特罗多姆体育馆的中心，也就是婴儿床所在的区域，因为你就在圆顶本身的中心下方，所以回声疯狂地回响。
Please call Auntie Harry.
请给哈利阿姨打电话。
Her number is 7067.
她的号码是7067。
Thank you.
谢谢你。
Louis [?
路易斯[?
Llewellyn ?] told me that you get used to it.
卢埃林？]告诉我你已经习惯了。
He's a New Orleans evacuee.
他是新奥尔良的撤离者。
Yeah, I take naps through the announcements.
是的，我在看公告时小睡了一会儿。
Yeah, you have to take naps.
是的，你必须小睡一下。
I'm not as young as I used to be.
我不再像以前那么年轻了。
Yeah, the announcements won't stop me from taking a nap.
是的，这些公告不会阻止我小睡。
One thing about living in a big room with thousands of people that you don't really think about until you're there is germs.
住在一个有数千人的大房间里的一件事是，你不会真正考虑到那里有细菌。
There are little free bottles of antibacterial scrub all over the place that people were advised to use, but that didn't stop bugs from spreading.
到处都有小瓶免费的抗菌磨砂膏建议人们使用，但这并不能阻止细菌的传播。
I caught the virus that was going around.
我感染了正在传播的病毒。
I had diarrhea, and I was vomiting, trying to get to a dumpster, and I couldn't.
我腹泻、呕吐，试图去垃圾箱，但没能成功。
I couldn't make it.
我没能做到。
And I just vomited right in the middle of the floor.
我就吐在地板中央了。
Bad place to get sick.
生病的地方不好。
Louis Llewellyn Yeah, bad place to get sick.
路易斯·卢埃林 是的，很容易生病的地方。
Or maybe not such a bad place, since just a few feet from his cot was a 24-hour medical clinic.
或者也许这不是一个糟糕的地方，因为离他的小床几英尺远就有一家 24 小时医疗诊所。
There was also a pediatric clinic and a pharmacy.
还有一个儿科诊所和一个药房。
He got better in just a day.
仅仅一天的时间他就康复了。
The lights were on all the time, though they dim them at night.
灯一直亮着，但到了晚上就变暗了。
It was so calm and orderly that the soldiers you saw inside the Reliant Convention Center were mostly on duty guarding the bathrooms, mainly, one said, to be sure that men and women weren't getting together in the bathrooms for some adult privacy, or, dare I say, domo-sexual activity.
雷莱恩特会议中心内是如此平静和有序，以至于你在 Reliant 会议中心看到的士兵大多都在值班看守浴室，其中一位说，主要是为了确保男人和女人不会为了某些成人隐私，或者我敢说，家庭性行为而聚集在浴室里。
In the late morning, the big convention floor where everybody was living looked like an apartment complex where all the walls had been lifted away.
上午晚些时候，大家居住的大型会议楼层看起来就像一座公寓大楼，所有的墙壁都被拆除了。
A little girl skipped around her family's cots, a teenager walked through bouncing a basketball.
一个小女孩在她家的小床上蹦蹦跳跳，一个青少年弹着篮球走过。
There was a free phone bank, and places to sign up for college, and all the offices to get insurance and government benefits, a big computer center with lots of volunteers ready to help you get online and navigate government websites.
这里有一个免费的电话银行、报名上大学的地方、所有获得保险和政府福利的办公室、一个大型计算机中心，里面有很多志愿者，随时可以帮助你上网和浏览政府网站。
Most of what was so striking was the overall competence of the whole thing, the care with which it was all put together.
最令人震惊的是整个事情的整体能力，以及将所有事情组合在一起的谨慎程度。
And nobody thought that more strongly than the people who were there who had been trapped at the New Orleans Convention Center, or the Superdome in New Orleans, after the flooding.
没有人比洪水后被困在新奥尔良会议中心或新奥尔良超级圆顶体育场的人们更强烈地认为这一点。
The Superdome was like, it was just total chaos.
超级巨蛋就像是一片混乱。
Rapes went on.
强奸仍在继续。
One of the young men stole one of the soldier's gun and shot in the leg.
其中一名年轻人偷了一名士兵的一把枪并射中了他的腿。
This shooting, this was something you saw?
这次枪击事件，这是你看到的吗？
Yes.
是的。
They killed, and killings were going on.
他们杀人，而且杀戮仍在继续。
It was just like, just horrible.
这就像，太可怕了。
This is Phyllis Thompson.
这是菲利斯·汤普森。
I talked to her just as she and her son and her daughter and her grandkids were packing up their stuff to move into their new housing.
当我和她交谈时，她和她的儿子、女儿和孙子们正在收拾行李搬进新房子。
The kids had one of those big plastic trash bags full of new stuffed animals that had been donated.
孩子们有一个大塑料垃圾袋，里面装满了捐赠的新毛绒动物。
Phyllis and her son both told me that after what they went through at the Superdome, they don't ever want to return to New Orleans.
菲利斯和她的儿子都告诉我，在经历了超级圆顶体育馆的经历之后，他们再也不想回到新奥尔良了。
I'm not going back.
我不会回去。
I don't want to even see it no more.
我什至不想再看到它了。
Uh-uh.
呃呃。
I ain't going back to that.
我不会再回到那个话题了。
His mom, Phyllis, says that after the flood, the moment on the bus that they crossed the border into Texas, she felt safe for the first time.
他的妈妈菲利斯说，洪水过后，当他们在巴士上越过边境进入德克萨斯州的那一刻，她第一次感到安全。
She felt peace.
她感到平静。
Texas has opened their heart.
德克萨斯州敞开了他们的心扉。
The state troopers, the organizations that work here, the Red Cross, it's just everybody has just showed so much love and so much kindness.
州警察、在这里工作的组织、红十字会，每个人都表现出了如此多的爱和善意。
And all I can say is that I just thank God for it.
我只能说，我为此感谢上帝。
Even the clean-up people are so nice and just kind, and just considerate.
就连打扫卫生的人都那么友善、善良、体贴。
Not everybody was feeling quite as positive.
并不是每个人都感觉那么积极。
I ran into Tony and Tiffany Davis as they were leaving the Reliant Center.
当托尼·戴维斯和蒂芙尼·戴维斯离开信实中心时，我遇到了他们。
An incredibly wholesome-looking young couple, they wore the color wristbands that get evacuees into the Astrodome complex, and they dragged a leopard print wheelie suitcase that had been donated by Wal-Mart, and a beat-up olive suitcase that came from an airline.
这是一对看起来非常健康的年轻夫妇，他们戴着让疏散人员进入阿斯特罗多姆体育馆的彩色腕带，拖着一个由沃尔玛捐赠的豹纹特技行李箱和一个来自航空公司的破旧橄榄色行李箱。
Just like somebody's lost luggage that never like--
就像有人丢失的行李从来不喜欢——
I think it was lost at the airport.
我认为它在机场丢失了。
Lost, yeah.
迷失了，是的。
So that's where it ends up?
那么这就是结局吗？
Tiffany Davis Yes.
蒂芙尼·戴维斯 是的。
It's ours now.
现在是我们的了。
They're taking the free plane tickets offered by Continental and FEMA and moving to New Jersey, where Tony's brother has a house.
他们拿着大陆航空和联邦应急管理局提供的免费机票搬到了新泽西州，托尼的兄弟在那里有一所房子。
So far the housing people in Texas haven't been able to get to their case, so they're leaving.
到目前为止，德克萨斯州的住房人员还无法处理他们的案件，所以他们要离开。
So how's it been here?
那么这里怎么样？
Like, do you come out of this experience feeling kind of impressed with what they've done here in Houston, or--?
就像，在经历了这次经历之后，你是否对他们在休斯顿所做的事情感到印象深刻，或者——？
I think when we first arrived, that everything was pretty organized, and I think afterwards, I think they kind of got tired of us.
我认为当我们第一次到达时，一切都井井有条，我想后来，我认为他们有点厌倦了我们。
Like, we went to the mall, and I think that they see us with the bands on, and everybody's like, oh my gosh, here they come, here they come, here they come, they're coming to steal, they're coming to do this, they do that.
就像，我们去了商场，我想他们看到我们戴着乐队，每个人都说，哦天哪，他们来了，他们来了，他们来了，他们来偷东西，他们来做这个，他们做那个。
And it's not everybody.
并不是每个人都是如此。
Everybody's not like that.
每个人都不是这样的。
And I think that it's partially the media's fault.
我认为这部分是媒体的错。
They did portray us in a bad way.
他们确实以不好的方式描绘了我们。
The news is showing us looting, and they're showing this, and they're showing that.
新闻显示我们正在抢劫，他们正在展示这个，他们正在展示那个。
And I think that it just adds to the fire, and I think that that's how everybody's judging us.
我认为这只会火上浇油，我认为每个人都是这样评价我们的。
In a shop at the Galleria mall, she says, a store employee followed her wherever she went.
她说，在 Galleria 购物中心的一家商店里，无论她走到哪里，一名商店员工都会跟着她。
And just walking through town, she says, a man stepped completely off the sidewalk to avoid her and Tony.
她说，就在穿过小镇时，一名男子完全离开了人行道，以避免她和托尼。
And in fact, white Texans did raise the issue with us, with me and Jane and Lisa, of what the presence of all these people from New Orleans would do to the crime rate.
事实上，德克萨斯白人确实向我们、我、简和丽莎提出了这样的问题：所有这些来自新奥尔良的人的存在会对犯罪率产生什么影响。
And the fact that it hadn't affected the crime rate was big enough news to be a front page story in the Houston Chronicle on Tuesday.
事实上，它没有影响犯罪率，这一事实足以成为周二《休斯敦纪事报》的头版新闻。
But at the same time, what's most striking as you go around Houston is how many people are putting themselves out for days and weeks at a time for strangers from Louisiana.
但与此同时，当你在休斯敦走一走时，最引人注目的是有多少人为了来自路易斯安那州的陌生人而连续几天或几周。
At Grace Community Church, for example, the congregation not only came up with over $200,000 for relief supplies and gas cards for Katrina victims, over 1,000 of them volunteered day after day, some working 12- and 14-hour days, sending out faxes to every hotel in the area offering assistance to survivors, calling apartment complexes all over the city so they could compile every day a daily list of available apartments, specifying which ones were giving special breaks to Katrina survivors.
例如，在格雷斯社区教堂，会众不仅为卡特里娜飓风受害者提供了超过 20 万美元的救援物资和加油卡，其中超过 1,000 人日复一日地做志愿者，其中一些人每天工作 12 和 14 小时，向该地区的每家酒店发送传真，为幸存者提供援助，给全市的公寓大楼打电话，以便他们每天编制一份可用公寓的每日清单，具体说明哪些公寓为卡特里娜飓风提供特别休息幸存者。
They were serving a huge population that barely made it on to the news, and didn't make it into the Astrodome.
他们为大量的人群提供服务，但他们几乎没有登上新闻，也没有进入阿斯特罗多姆体育馆。
That is, people who evacuated before the hurricane, who had some resources of their own.
也就是说，在飓风之前撤离的人们，他们拥有一些自己的资源。
Lori Buxton works at the church.
洛里·巴克斯顿在教堂工作。
Yes, primarily the people that we experienced were people that left when the storm was approaching, came here, got their hotel rooms, expecting they'd be here for three to four days while the storm went through.
是的，我们遇到的人主要是在风暴即将来临时离开的人，来到这里，得到了他们的酒店房间，期望在风暴来临期间他们会在这里呆三到四天。
Of course, that turned out to be a very different situation.
当然，结果是完全不同的情况。
A week later, 10 days, 14 days later, they started running out of money.
一周后，10天，14天后，他们开始没钱了。
They started running out of places to stay.
他们开始没有地方住了。
I had a call the day before yesterday, and I quote, "I have to be out of here in 20 minutes, and I have nowhere to go and no way to get there."
前天我接到一个电话，我引述说：“我必须在20分钟内离开这里，我无处可去，也没有办法到达那里。”
Exactly where all these evacuees are going to live is the next serious question that this exodus is going to face.
所有这些撤离者究竟要住在哪里，是这次撤离将面临的下一个严重问题。
And though the Astrodome officially emptied out at the end of this week, several thousand people are still in the Reliant Arena just next door, with no particular end in sight.
尽管阿斯特罗多姆体育馆在本周末正式清空，但隔壁的 Reliant 竞技场仍有数千人，看不到具体的结束迹象。
And beyond that group, it doesn't seem like anybody knows how many tens of thousands of people are staying in Houston paying for their own hotels, or on two-week government hotel vouchers that are now running out, or with family or friends, who are going to need permanent housing, and may need government help to help pay for it.
除了这个群体之外，似乎没有人知道有多少万人住在休斯顿，为自己的酒店付费，或者使用现已用完的为期两周的政府酒店优惠券，或者与家人或朋友一起，他们将需要永久住房，并且可能需要政府的帮助来帮助支付费用。
There's a voucher program that the city of Houston has set up that gives you six months free rent, no security deposit, two months utilities, furniture for your apartment, stuff like a shower curtain, in pre-selected apartments that have been inspected to be sure they're OK.
休斯顿市设立了一项代金券计划，在经过检查以确保其完好的预先选定的公寓中，您可以享受六个月的免租金、无押金、两个月的水电费、公寓家具、浴帘等物品。
Which of course sounds great, but matching the apartments with all the people who need them is complicated.
这当然听起来不错，但将公寓与所有需要它们的人相匹配却很复杂。
And that is actually the subject of Act Three of our show.
这实际上是我们节目第三幕的主题。
Act Three, Land Grab.
第三幕，征地。
Lisa Pollak, one of our program's producers, went to the housing center at the Reliant Arena this week.
我们节目的制作人之一丽莎·波拉克 (Lisa Pollak) 本周去了 Reliant Arena 的住房中心。
It's 3:00 PM when we get to the housing center, and it's not a happy place.
当我们到达住房中心时已是下午 3:00，那地方可不是什么令人愉快的地方。
There are hundreds of people here, slumped in folding chairs, jostling in lines, pleading for volunteers to help them.
这里有数百人瘫坐在折叠椅上，排着队，恳求志愿者帮助他们。
Tense-looking cops are everywhere, and soldiers in camouflage fatigues.
到处都是神情紧张的警察和穿着迷彩服的士兵。
It makes the DMV look like a day spa.
它使 DMV 看起来像一个日间水疗中心。
In the section of chairs where we're standing, there's this sudden wave of movement.
在我们站着的椅子区域，突然有一阵动静。
People stand up, and there's some yelling.
人们站起来，有人喊叫。
It turns out an official with a bullhorn just told a whole group to leave and come back tomorrow.
原来，一名拿着扩音器的官员刚刚告诉整个团队离开，明天再回来。
They won't get apartments today.
他们今天买不到公寓。
And one of the women standing near us has clearly reached her limit.
站在我们附近的一位女士显然已经达到了她的极限。
You should have apartments first before you bring the people in.
你应该先有公寓，然后再带人进来。
You're bringing the people in before the apartments is available.
你要在公寓空出来之前把人带进来。
Now we stand in line.
现在我们排队。
Her name is [?
她的名字是[?
Ida Mae.
艾达·梅.
?] She's been here since early this morning, she says, just like she was told to be, looking for a place for herself and her teenage sons.
？] 她说，她从今天一大早就来了，就像别人告诉她的那样，为自己和十几岁的儿子们寻找住处。
And at this point, the only way to manage her frustration is to share it with everyone she sees, including, apparently, one of the less-tolerant cops in the room.
此时，处理她的挫败感的唯一方法就是与她看到的每个人分享，显然包括房间里一位不太宽容的警察。
The police just told me that they will arrest me and put me out.
警察只是告诉我他们会逮捕我并把我赶出去。
Put me out where?
把我放哪儿去？
Where they going to put me out at?
他们要把我赶到哪里去？
That's a threat.
这是一个威胁。
Oh, if we get loud and all this kind of stuff, they going to put us to jail.
哦，如果我们大声喧哗和诸如此类的事情，他们就会把我们关进监狱。
If we have any problems, they going to put us in jail and all.
如果我们有任何问题，他们就会把我们关进监狱等等。
Man, come on.
伙计，来吧。
Give us a break.
让我们休息一下。
Man, give us a break.
伙计，让我们休息一下吧。
If we get loud, we not going to let you holler at us.
如果我们大声说话，我们不会让你对我们大喊大叫。
Well, I feel like screaming.
嗯，我感觉想尖叫。
What you mean, holler at you?
对你大喊大叫是什么意思？
I could scream to the top of my-- do he understand the pressure I'm under?
我可以大声尖叫——他明白我所承受的压力吗？
Well, right now, mister, you holding me up right now, because the people-- I'm getting in line.
好吧，现在，先生，你现在就阻止我，因为人们——我正在排队。
Ida Mae goes to stand in another line, the line to sign up for tomorrow's line, which turns out to be the wrong line.
艾达梅去站在另一条队伍里，报名参加明天的队伍，结果发现排错了队。
A volunteer points her in the right direction.
一名志愿者为她指明了正确的方向。
Excuse me ma'am, the two-bedroom line is this line.
打扰一下，女士，两居室的线是这条线。
There is the four-bedroom.
有四居室。
I am sorry, OK?
对不起，好吗？
It was confusing, yeah.
这很令人困惑，是的。
Thank you.
谢谢。
I don't know what happened.
我不知道发生了什么事。
As soon as they walk in in the morning, we're getting buses, and we're taking people out to their homes.
早上他们一进来，我们就开始乘公共汽车，带人们回家。
It is a success story beyond their imagination that you may need to print or say something about on radio.
这是一个超出他们想象的成功故事，您可能需要打印或在广播中谈论一些。
This is Guy Rankin, the man with the unenviable job of running this place.
这是盖伊·兰金，负责管理这个地方的工作并不令人羡慕。
When I stumble on to him in the middle of the arena, he says things are actually going pretty well here, and he means it.
当我在竞技场中央偶然遇见他时，他说这里的事情实际上进展顺利，他是认真的。
There were 25,000 people that are in dome.
圆顶内有 25,000 人。
Now we're down to 3,000.
现在我们已经减少到 3,000 人了。
They had to go somewhere.
他们必须去某个地方。
We housed most of them.
我们安置了他们中的大多数。
We had 3,144 people taken to housing over the last five to seven days right off the dome floor.
在过去的 5 到 7 天内，我们有 3,144 人被带到了圆顶地板附近的住房。
800 seniors we took right off the dome floor, provided transportation, social services, and a full aspect of training, nurses, doctors, and all of that.
我们从圆顶地板上运走了 800 名老年人，提供交通、社会服务以及全方位的培训、护士、医生等等。
I just got back--
我刚回来——
If all these numbers don't quite match up to the chaos around us, it's for a reason.
如果所有这些数字与我们周围的混乱状况不太相符，那是有原因的。
The housing voucher program, like so much of the Katrina aid, is a work in progress, being assembled on the fly.
住房券计划，就像卡特里娜飓风的许多援助一样，是一项正在进行中的工作，正在匆忙中组装。
At first, when hurricane victims showed up, they were told to sign up, and then they'd be called when housing came available for them.
起初，当飓风受害者出现时，他们被告知要报名，然后当他们有住房时就会接到电话。
Lots of people never got calls.
很多人从来没有接到过电话。
And because that system was moving too slowly, it was changed midstream.
由于该系统进展太慢，因此中途进行了更改。
Now how it works is what we're seeing today.
现在我们所看到的就是它的工作原理。
People come to the housing center and wait for buses that will take them directly to the apartments that had been chosen for them.
人们来到住房中心等待巴士，巴士将直接带他们前往为他们选择的公寓。
But the system is still messy.
但系统仍然混乱。
Ida Mae, for instance, needed a three-bedroom apartment, and not enough of those were ready today.
例如，艾达·梅 (Ida Mae) 需要一套三居室公寓，但今天还没有准备好。
But the one- and two-bedrooms, we didn't have enough people to fill the one- and two-bedrooms.
但是一居室和两居室，我们没有足够的人来填满一居室和两居室。
It was empty.
里面是空的。
I know, I see that look on your face, but we've been housing people day after day, minute after minute, taking buses out, full buses.
我知道，我看到你脸上的表情，但我们日复一日、一分钟又一分钟地为人们提供住宿，把公共汽车开出去，满员。
Those are the stories you need to tell the world, and what we're housing, and those are the units you need to go see.
这些是您需要向世界讲述的故事，以及我们正在建造的房屋，这些是您需要去参观的单位。
Well, how can we come out and see some of it?
那么，我们怎样才能出来看看呢？
I know there was a bus just leaving now that we were hoping we might come along on.
我知道有一辆公共汽车正要出发，我们希望我们能一起上车。
Yeah, you missed the bus.
是的，你错过了公共汽车。
Lisa Pollak Did I?
丽莎·波拉克 我是吗？
Yeah.
是的。
Lashawn Price All right, I'm going to call y'all when I make it in and I know how it looks.
Lashawn Price 好吧，等我进去后我会打电话给你们，我知道它看起来怎么样。
They told me they are lovely.
他们告诉我他们很可爱。
It's the Timber Ridge Apartments.
这是Timber Ridge 公寓。
As it turned out, the bus he said we missed was running late, and we caught the last one just as it was loading.
事实证明，他说我们错过的公共汽车晚点了，我们正好赶上了最后一班车。
The people lined up didn't really know where they were going, just that they'd have an apartment when they got there.
排队的人并不知道自己要去哪里，只是知道到了那里就会有一套公寓。
There were seven families, mostly couples, one little boy, and a very, very pregnant woman named [?
有七个家庭，大部分是夫妇，一个小男孩，还有一个非常非常怀孕的女人，名叫[？
Lashawn ?] Price who said she didn't want to have to bring a new baby back to the Astrodome.
拉肖恩？] 普莱斯说她不想把新生儿带回阿斯特罗多姆体育馆。
I ask her when she's due, and she says any day, which turns out to be an understatement.
我问她预产期是什么时候，她说任何一天，结果证明这是轻描淡写的。
No, I'm too far along to get a health care doctor.
不，我已经没时间去找医疗保健医生了。
I just have to wait it out.
我只需要等待。
And they'll just tell you to go to the ER when you go into labor?
当你临产时他们只会告诉你去急诊室？
Yeah, I'm already three centimeters, so I'm just waiting on the next centimeter.
是的，我已经三厘米了，所以我只是在等待下一厘米。
You're in labor.
你正在临产。
Lashawn Price But they can't keep me until I'm four.
拉肖恩·普赖斯 但他们不能让我留到我四岁。
We all get on the bus.
我们都上车了。
Lashawn, still completely calm, is having contractions at this point, and the housing official who's coming with us hands out the voucher forms.
拉肖恩仍然完全平静，此时正在宫缩，和我们一起来的住房官员分发了代金券表格。
We drive for a while on the freeway, and people are starting to get nervous.
我们在高速公路上行驶了一会儿，人们开始变得紧张。
We seemed really far from the Astrodome.
我们看起来离阿斯特罗多姆体育场真的很远。
Finally, after 45 minutes, we get there.
45分钟后，我们终于到达了那里。
Is this it?
是这个吗？
[CHEERING] Lisa Pollak It's a nice-looking townhouse development, with garages and tidy landscaping and new brick and siding.
[欢呼] Lisa Pollak 这是一个漂亮的联排别墅开发项目，有车库和整洁的景观以及新的砖块和壁板。
And for the first time all day, there's a sense that things are getting better.
一整天第一次，我有一种事情正在好转的感觉。
Boy, we got lucky.
男孩，我们很幸运。
We got lucky.
我们很幸运。
We got so lucky, because they have to [INAUDIBLE]
我们很幸运，因为他们必须[听不清]
Well, the inside looks very, very beautiful.
嗯，里面看起来非常非常漂亮。
We're in the clubhouse now.
我们现在在俱乐部会所。
It's big, kind of like the lobby of a Hampton Inn, and there's a loveseat and wingback chairs and a fancy flower arrangement on the front table.
它很大，有点像汉普顿酒店的大堂，有一张双人沙发和靠背椅，前面的桌子上还摆着漂亮的鲜花。
Out the back through the glass doors, you can see a pool and basketball courts.
透过玻璃门，可以看到后面的游泳池和篮球场。
The families line up as if out of habit.
一家人排成一排，仿佛是出于习惯。
They all stand there looking around, flipping through the brochures.
他们都站在那里环顾四周，翻阅着小册子。
A few minutes go by, a few more.
几分钟过去了，又过了几分钟。
In the back corner of the room are two young women.
房间的后角有两个年轻女子。
They obviously work there, and they see we're here, but they don't come up to us or even say hello.
他们显然在那里工作，他们看到我们在这里，但他们没有走到我们面前，甚至没有打招呼。
They're talking about what to do, and everyone knows it.
他们正在谈论要做什么，每个人都知道。
And [?
和 [？
Lashawn ?] says what everyone's thinking.
拉肖恩？]说出了每个人的想法。
Is there a problem?
有问题吗？
Lisa Pollak But the women don't hear her, and the waiting continues.
丽莎·波拉克 但女人们没有听到她的声音，等待仍在继续。
Finally, after 15 minutes, one of them comes forward.
15 分钟后，其中一人终于站了出来。
She's the assistant manager, though she doesn't introduce herself.
她是助理经理，但她没有自我介绍。
She asks everyone to get out their social security cards and birth certificates, and she gets some incredulous looks.
她要求每个人都拿出他们的社会保障卡和出生证明，而她得到了一些难以置信的表情。
I don't have a social security card.
我没有社保卡。
We just came from a flood in New Orleans.
我们刚刚从新奥尔良的洪水中回来。
Where are you going to put that at?
你要把它放在哪里？
That's just so stupid.
那真是太愚蠢了。
She hands out the applications.
她分发申请表。
Everyone can get an apartment tonight, she says, as long as they have no previous evictions and a clean criminal record.
她说，今晚每个人都可以得到一套公寓，只要他们没有被驱逐过并且没有犯罪记录。
There's an awkward silence in the room, and then the questions begin.
房间里陷入了尴尬的沉默，然后问题开始了。
So if the people have a bad criminal check, they just have to be homeless?
那么如果人们的犯罪记录不佳，他们就只能无家可归吗？
If you know that you have a criminal background, and when I say criminal background, I mean no felonies whatsoever, no matter what it is or how old they are, misdemeanors for any drug-related, sex-related crime, or violence against person or property.
如果您知道自己有犯罪背景，当我说犯罪背景时，我指的是任何重罪，无论其性质或年龄如何，以及任何与毒品有关、与性有关的犯罪或针对人身或财产的暴力行为的轻罪。
So that's what I mean by criminal.
这就是我所说的罪犯的意思。
So if those four things do not apply to you, or if you do not have an eviction, or if you do not owe a property any money, then yes, you will be in.
因此，如果这四件事不适用于您，或者您没有被驱逐，或者您不欠房产任何钱，那么是的，您将会入住。
[?
[？
Lashawn ?] turns to me.
拉肖恩？]转向我。
Lashawn Price This is BS.
拉肖恩·普莱斯 这是胡说八道。
This is straight--
这是直的——
Do you have one?
你有吗？
Lashawn Price Do I have a conviction?
Lashawn Price 我有信念吗？
Yeah, I have a conviction.
是的，我有一个信念。
But a felony or misdemeanor?
但重罪还是轻罪？
Lashawn Price It's a felony, but it still doesn't stop me from working.
Lashawn Price 这是重罪，但仍然不能阻止我工作。
I picked up a charge for my sister.
我为姐姐收取了费用。
That's not fair.
这不公平。
Now it's getting really tense.
现在真的变得非常紧张了。
The Housing Department guy is arguing with the assistant manager.
房屋部的人正在与副经理争吵。
People are pulling out their cell phones.
人们纷纷掏出手机。
There's some yelling.
有一些叫喊声。
In a way, it's no different than things have been for weeks now.
在某种程度上，这与几周前的情况没有什么不同。
The rules keep changing, and no one tells them, and nothing ends up quite how it's supposed to be.
规则不断变化，没有人告诉他们，最终一切都不会如其所愿。
Remember last week, when the big story was the FEMA debit cards?
还记得上周，当时的大新闻是 FEMA 借记卡吗？
Some people got them, others didn't.
有些人得到了它们，其他人则没有。
Next to me, [?
在我旁边，[?
Lashawn's ?] getting more agitated by the minute.
拉肖恩的？] 每分钟都变得更加焦躁。
I can't believe she's not four centimeters dilated by now.
我不敢相信她现在还没有扩张四厘米。
Her old life, with her own apartment and her job as a medical records assistant, seems as far away as ever.
她以前的生活，有自己的公寓和病历助理的工作，似乎和以前一样遥远。
That's the part that you're about to go insane behind.
这就是你后面即将发疯的部分。
You're not in your right frame of mind no more, because if you think about everywhere you go, you're standing in the line for six, seven damn hours to get up there for somebody to give the damn runaround.
你不再处于正确的心态了，因为如果你想到你去的每一个地方，你就会排六七个小时的队，等待有人来绕道。
After a while, it's starting to be-- then you can't even go home to somewhere and relax.
过了一段时间，就开始——然后你甚至不能回家去某个地方放松。
You're going back to the damn center with 15,000, 20,000 people in it.
你将回到那个该死的中心，那里有 15,000、20,000 人。
You can't even sit out and have a peace of mind for a second.
你甚至不能坐下来安心一秒钟。
I wish I had an answer for it myself right now, but I don't.
我希望我现在就能得到答案，但我没有。
Lisa, the assistant manager, seems a little overwhelmed.
助理经理丽莎似乎有点不知所措。
And basically what happened is that they were supposed to be here earlier in the day, and they came five minutes before we were supposed to close.
基本上发生的事情是，他们本来应该在当天早些时候到达这里，但他们比我们应该打烊的时间早了五分钟。
And then the bus driver's giving them 15 minutes to get back on the bus, and that's just not adequate time enough for us to be able to get them in and out.
然后公交车司机给了他们 15 分钟的时间返回公交车，而我们没有足够的时间让他们进出。
I feel really bad.
我感觉真的很糟糕。
A regional manager shows up, promising to help people, but it's too late.
一名区域经理出现，承诺帮助人们，但为时已晚。
Everyone feels discriminated against.
每个人都感到受到歧视。
Here's [?
这是[?
Lashawn ?] and another woman as they get back on the bus.
拉肖恩？]和另一位女士回到巴士上。
Them bastards looked at us like we was misfits, and y'all negroes ain't getting in here.
这些混蛋看着我们，好像我们格格不入，你们这些黑人都不能进来。
That's not right Woman You're coming from nowhere.
那是不对的 女人 你不知从何而来。
You have nothing.
你什么都没有。
They know you don't have nothing.
他们知道你一无所有。
And then for you to turn around and try to makeshift throw little stepping stones in front of you like that?
然后你就转身尝试像那样临时把小垫脚石扔到你面前？
That's not right.
那是不对的。
That's not right.
那是不对的。
The housing official, he's back on the bus too, tells me he doesn't know why this has happened.
住房官员也回到了车上，他告诉我他不知道为什么会发生这种情况。
It's his first day, he says.
他说，这是他上班的第一天。
But there's another complex open tonight which also accepts the vouchers.
但今晚还有另一个开放的综合体也接受优惠券。
So the bus gets back on the freeway and drives to a neighborhood on the northwest side of the city.
于是，巴士回到高速公路上，开往城市西北侧的一个社区。
Out the bus windows, more and more of the store names are in Spanish.
公交车窗外，越来越多的商店名称都是西班牙语。
Someone spots a man pedaling a little food cart, and a bunch of people snicker.
有人看到一个人踩着一辆小餐车，一群人窃笑起来。
By the time the bus stops in front of a weathered two-story apartment complex called Villa del Sol, most of the passengers seem a little freaked out.
当巴士停在一座名为 Villa del Sol 的饱经风霜的两层公寓大楼前时，大多数乘客似乎都有点害怕。
One thing's for sure: this isn't Timber Ridge.
有一点是肯定的：这里不是 Timber Ridge。
For starters, when we get inside they're ready for us.
首先，当我们进去时，他们已经为我们做好了准备。
[UNINTELLIGIBLE] Manager We have a great kids center here that has five new computers in it.
[无法理解] 经理 我们这里有一个很棒的儿童中心，里面有五台新电脑。
We crowd into the rental office.
我们挤进出租办公室。
It's more basement rec room than Hampton Inn, with mismatched furniture and no slick brochures.
它比汉普顿酒店更像是地下室娱乐室，家具不匹配，也没有华而不实的小册子。
But it's clean and comfortable, and a table in the center of the room is piled high with food: pizzas, sodas, chips.
但它干净舒适，房间中央的桌子上堆满了食物：披萨、苏打水、薯条。
Pick as much as you want, people are saying.
人们说，想选多少就选多少。
On the wall is a photo collage: the neighborhood kids at summer day camp.
墙上挂着一张照片拼贴画：邻居的孩子们在参加夏令营。
It's a big party.
这是一个大聚会。
I'm going to need your initials right here please.
我需要您的名字缩写。
Lashawn sits down at the manager's desk and picks up a pen.
拉肖恩在经理办公桌前坐下，拿起一支笔。
She looks exhausted.
她看上去很疲惫。
And right here, right there, one more, right there too, and I'm going to need your signature here.
就在这里，就在那里，还有一个，也在那里，我需要你在这里签名。
It was that simple.
就是这么简单。
She had an apartment, six months rent free.
她有一套公寓，六个月免租。
So how were you feeling while you were writing that?
那么您在写这篇文章时感觉如何？
I don't know.
我不知道。
It's just, whatever.
只是，无论如何。
Whatever.
任何。
It's got a roof and a door, and I can sanitize it and have a new baby.
它有屋顶和门，我可以对其进行消毒并生一个新婴儿。
That's all I'm looking for now.
这就是我现在正在寻找的一切。
No one else from our group even fills out the paperwork.
我们小组中甚至没有其他人填写文书工作。
They eat the pizza and drift back to the bus.
他们吃完披萨后就回到了巴士上。
They'll find something better, they say.
他们说，他们会找到更好的东西。
I grab one of them.
我抓住其中的一个。
Can I ask you why you don't want to stay?
我可以问你为什么不想留下来吗？
Why I'm not staying?
为什么我不留下来？
Because look how far we are from here.
因为看看我们离这里有多远。
Just look around you.
看看你的周围。
You see yourself.
你看到你自己了。
Ain't no good environment.
环境不太好啊
Mexicans are the only people around here.
墨西哥人是这里唯一的人。
It's hard to miss the fact that some of the same people who were complaining the loudest about discrimination at Timber Ridge were the quickest to say they didn't want to live around a bunch of Mexicans.
很难忽视这样一个事实：在 Timber Ridge 抱怨歧视最强烈的人中，有一些人最快表示他们不想和一群墨西哥人生活在一起。
One of them told me later, if you were in our shoes, wouldn't you feel out of place?
其中一位后来告诉我，如果你处于我们的处境，你不会感到格格不入吗？
It's a different community, a community you're not a part of.
这是一个不同的社区，一个你不属于的社区。
Our kids might get picked on or ridiculed.
我们的孩子可能会被欺负或嘲笑。
They'll be outsiders.
他们将成为局外人。
You've got a kid, right?
你有一个孩子了，对吧？
Lashawn Price Yeah.
拉肖恩价格 是的。
Laura Rodriguez, the assistant manager, is going to give [?
助理经理劳拉·罗德里格斯 (Laura Rodriguez) 将给予 [?
Lashawn ?] a tour.
拉肖恩？] 一次旅行。
Jane, my co-producer, walks over to the apartment with them, and halfway there [?
我的联合制片人简和他们一起走向公寓，半路上[？
Lashawn ?] grabs Jane's hand.
拉肖恩？]抓住简的手。
Going to feel a contraction?
会感觉到宫缩吗？
You're having one?
你有一个吗？
[LABORED WHISTLING] Laura Rodriguez This is your apartment.
[劳累的口哨声] 劳拉·罗德里格斯 这是你的公寓。
This is a two-bedroom apartment, and one bath.
这是一套两卧室公寓和一间浴室。
It's real nice.
真是太好了。
It has a walk-in closet.
它有一个步入式衣柜。
Let me show you.
让我告诉你。
They're nice and big.
它们又漂亮又大。
You can fit a bed in there.
你可以在里面放一张床。
I think you're going to be happy here.
我想你在这里会很开心。
People here are very friendly.
这里的人们非常友好。
I've been in this property for five years.
我在这处房产已经呆了五年了。
People is nice.
人们很好。
To their credit, the people running this housing program are still working on it, still adjusting it each day, still trying to figure out how to get more people into apartments more quickly.
值得称赞的是，实施该住房计划的人们仍在努力，仍在每天进行调整，仍在试图找出如何更快地让更多人入住公寓的方法。
The next morning, we go back to the housing center.
第二天早上，我们回到住房中心。
Things are a lot the same.
事情有很多相同。
Telling us to come back tomorrow.
告诉我们明天再来。
I was here yesterday with my proof.
我昨天带着我的证据来到这里。
This is my proof.
这是我的证明。
I was here yesterday.
我昨天来过这里。
I try to talk to Guy Rankin, the guy in charge, but he's busy.
我尝试与负责人盖伊·兰金（Guy Rankin）交谈，但他很忙。
He's walking around the arena, going from section to section with a bullhorn, listening to people's complaints and trying to answer their questions.
他在竞技场周围走动，拿着扩音器从一个区域走到另一个区域，倾听人们的抱怨并试图回答他们的问题。
But let me first explain the Housing Choice Center.
但让我首先解释一下住房选择中心。
Some of you may have heard it before, but we need to do it again for everybody who's here.
你们中的一些人可能以前听过，但我们需要为在座的每个人再做一次。
The system's still got some problems.
系统还是有一些问题。
Lots of people are asking why they just can't rent their own apartments with the voucher money instead of taking the places chosen for them in neighborhoods they don't know and don't feel comfortable with.
很多人都在问，为什么他们不能用优惠券的钱租自己的公寓，而是在他们不熟悉、感觉不舒服的社区里为他们选择的地方。
It might sound picky, but when I talked to a New Orleans mom whose son has already started elementary school here and is happy there and doesn't want to move again, I'm reminded of how complicated this all is.
这听起来可能很挑剔，但当我和一位新奥尔良的妈妈交谈时，她的儿子已经在这里上小学了，在那里很开心，不想再搬家了，我想起这一切是多么复杂。
I listen for a while to Rankin.
我听了一会儿兰金的讲话。
He tells the crowd he's heard that complaint, and that maybe soon there will be a way to let people choose their own places.
他告诉人群他听到了这样的抱怨，也许很快就会有一种方法让人们选择自己的地方。
It's still being worked out, he says, even as he speaks.
他说，就在他讲话的同时，这个问题仍在制定中。
Later today, he says, there might even be a line for that.
他说，今天晚些时候，甚至可能要排队。
That system will be set up today, and we'll be lining up for that, lining up for that.
该系统将于今天建立，我们将为此做好准备，为此做好准备。
I can only take one more question from this group, and please be patient with us, because we're very, very busy.
我只能再回答这个小组的一个问题，请耐心等待，因为我们非常非常忙。
I know you've been here 17 days.
我知道你已经在这里 17 天了。
Some of us have been here 17 days with 20 hours a day.
我们中的一些人已经在这里呆了 17 天，每天工作 20 个小时。
I'm going to answer each of your questions.
我将回答你们的每一个问题。
Lisa Pollak.
丽莎·波拉克。
In the few days since the middle of the week when she left the housing center, they've made other improvements, like they've given people wristbands to keep their place in line.
自从她本周中离开住房中心以来的几天里，他们还做出了其他改进，比如他们给人们发了腕带，以保持他们的位置。
The biggest hold-up is still finding acceptable apartments, inspecting them, and then getting people out to see them.
最大的障碍仍然是找到合适的公寓，检查它们，然后让人们出去看看。
That will continue to be slow, especially for people who want three-, and four-, and five-bedroom apartments, which are scarce.
这将继续缓慢，特别是对于那些想要三居室、四居室和五居室公寓的人来说，而这些公寓是稀缺的。
By Friday, the number of families that the city had put into the six-month free apartments had climbed from 3,100 to 4,800.
截至周五，该市提供六个月免费公寓的家庭数量已从 3,100 户攀升至 4,800 户。
Right outside the housing center, on the parking lot between the Astrodome and the Reliant Center, the YMCA set up a huge recreation area for kids and adults.
就在住房中心外，在 Astrodome 和 Reliant Center 之间的停车场，基督教青年会 (YMCA) 为儿童和成人设立了一个巨大的休闲区。
Basketball courts.
篮球场。
There's blow-up things that little kids bounce on at fairs.
集市上有小孩子们可以在上面弹跳的充气物品。
There's one tent of arcade video machines, and Dance Dance Revolution for kids, and a second tent of arcade games for adults, all set up so no quarters were needed.
其中一个帐篷里有街机视频机和儿童版《劲舞革命》，第二个帐篷里有成人街机游戏，所有这些都已准备就绪，因此无需住宿。
On one machine I saw a message that I had never seen before: game never over.
在一台机器上我看到了一条我以前从未见过的消息：游戏永远不会结束。
At a plastic table in the tent, two kids have drumsticks, and one was teaching the other how to play.
帐篷里的一张塑料桌子旁，两个孩子拿着鼓槌，其中一个正在教另一个打鼓。
Volunteers from Seattle and North Carolina and all over the place walked through, tending the kids and chatting happily like they'd known each other for years.
来自西雅图、北卡罗来纳州以及世界各地的志愿者走过来，照顾孩子们，愉快地聊天，就像他们已经认识多年一样。
On the Ms. Pac-Man machine, I see a man take a break from standing in line for government help by playing the fastest, greatest game of Ms. Pac-Man I have ever witnessed in my life.
在“吃豆人女士”机器上，我看到一名男子在排队寻求政府帮助时休息一下，玩了我一生中见过的最快、最棒的“吃豆人女士”游戏。
Yeah, when I was at my house in New Orleans, yeah, I used to play it on my TV.
是的，当我在新奥尔良的家里时，是的，我经常在电视上播放它。
So I got a little bit of skills behind this thing.
所以我在这件事背后掌握了一些技巧。
Outside, a cool late afternoon breeze starts to kick in, and I watch as a pediatric doctor in scrubs, a volunteer who flew in from Baltimore, tries to cross the playground, and gets stopped first by a six-year-old who has to borrow the doctor's camera to take her picture.
外面，凉爽的午后微风开始吹来，我看到一位穿着手术服的儿科医生，一位从巴尔的摩飞来的志愿者，试图穿过操场，首先被一个六岁的孩子拦住，她不得不借医生的相机给她拍照。
You know how to do it now right, because you're a professional photographer?
你现在知道该怎么做了吗，因为你是一名专业摄影师？
Let me fix it for you.
让我帮你解决。
And then she lends her cell phone to an older girl who needs to call a parent, even though she's having trouble.
然后她把手机借给了一个需要给家长打电话的大女孩，尽管她遇到了麻烦。
It's his phone.
这是他的电话。
Doctor Do you want to try it again?
医生您想再试一次吗？
Same number?
相同号码？
Is it not ringing?
是不是没响？
823-- Ira Glass As the sun started to go down on Tuesday, it was hard to believe that this whole complex would soon be gone, this city built in a day, like Brigadoon.
823--艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass） 周二，当太阳开始落山时，很难相信整个建筑群很快就会消失，这座城市就像布里加杜（Brigadoon）一样，是一天建成的。
27,000 people were just two weeks ago, down to a few thousand this week.
两周前有 27,000 人，本周减少到几千人。
The past few weeks have been horrific for people here, traumatic, and the next six months are going to be incredibly hard, too, as people set up new lives, and homes, and jobs.
过去的几周对这里的人们来说是可怕的、创伤性的，接下来的六个月也将非常艰难，因为人们开始了新的生活、家庭和工作。
This place was a waystation where sometimes it was possible to pause and rest.
这个地方是一个中转站，有时可以停下来休息。
[MUSIC - "PROMISED LAND" BY CHUCK BERRY]
[音乐 - 查克·贝瑞的《应许之地》]
Coming up: yes, the streets of New Orleans are still restricted.
即将推出：是的，新奥尔良的街道仍然受到限制。
So what's it like to drive around there right now?
那么现在开车去那里感觉如何？
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International, when our program continues.
一分钟后，芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme and bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，我们的节目每周都会选择一个主题，并为您带来有关该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's program, This is not My Beautiful House, stories about the hundreds of thousands of people sent into exodus since Hurricane Katrina.
今天的节目《这不是我美丽的房子》讲述了卡特里娜飓风过后数十万人流亡的故事。
We've arrived at Act Four of our show.
我们已经到了演出的第四幕了。
Act Four The Long Way Home.
第四幕《漫长的回家路》。
Well, the mayor of New Orleans has announced that this weekend certain parts of New Orleans will reopen, first to business owners and then to residents, this weekend and in the coming week.
嗯，新奥尔良市长宣布，本周末新奥尔良的某些部分将在本周末和下周重新开放，首先向企业主开放，然后向居民开放。
Nick Spitzer is part of the New Orleans diaspora.
尼克·斯皮策 (Nick Spitzer) 是新奥尔良侨民的一部分。
He's also the host of the Public Radio International music show, American Routes.
他还是国际公共广播电台音乐节目《美国之路》的主持人。
He's living now with his wife and his two little kids in Lafayette, living with friends.
他现在与妻子和两个小孩住在拉斐特，与朋友们住在一起。
He has a press pass, so it's actually been legal for him to drive through the city of New Orleans.
他有记者通行证，所以他开车穿过新奥尔良市实际上是合法的。
The streets are restricted, of course.
当然，街道受到限制。
So he finally tried it.
所以他终于尝试了。
This is, I think it's September the 7th.
我想今天是 9 月 7 日。
It is September the 7th, in downtown New Orleans, sitting on Canal Street right now inside my car.
那是 9 月 7 日，在新奥尔良市中心，我坐在运河街的车里。
I'm about to take a ride uptown, and I'm just going to narrate what I see as I go.
我正要搭车去住宅区，我只想讲述一下我沿途所见。
So I've been told to go by way of Tchoupitoulas Street, and I'm told that it's fairly clear going up Tchoupitoulas.
所以我被告知要走 Tchoupitoulas 街，而且我被告知沿着 Tchoupitoulas 走是相当清楚的。
It makes sense.
这是有道理的。
It's the old high ground in the city.
这里是城里古老的制高点。
So here we go.
那么我们开始吧。
Certainly there are a lot of security guards everywhere who aren't very friendly, lots of guys in black with Kevlar vests and different things that say Security ICE, and security this, and security that.
当然，到处都有很多不太友好的保安人员，很多穿着凯夫拉背心的黑衣人，还有不同的东西，上面写着“安全 ICE”、“安全这个”、“安全那个”。
And then of course there's just the good old garden variety New Orleans cops.
当然，还有老式的新奥尔良警察。
And then there's cops from all over, which is really, really strange: cops from Dublin, Ohio, cops from New Mexico.
然后还有来自各地的警察，这真的非常非常奇怪：来自俄亥俄州都柏林的警察，来自新墨西哥州的警察。
I'm going to see-- there's no traffic lights working.
我要去看看——交通灯不亮了。
I think I'm going to cut through here.
我想我要从这里切入。
I think I can do it.
我想我能做到。
Yes, I can do it.
是的，我能做到。
And I'm off and running.
我就出发了。
And no one's shooting at me, for which I'm thankful.
没有人向我开枪，对此我很感激。
There's a guy with a machine gun there.
那里有一个拿着机关枪的人。
I think actually there's a corpse up this way.
我想这边确实有一具尸体。
Somebody told me.
有人告诉我。
I'm heading up Tchoupitoulas Street here.
我正朝 Tchoupitoulas 街走去。
Everywhere you turn there's just garbage lying everywhere, garbage and old signs.
无论你走到哪里，到处都是垃圾，垃圾和旧标志。
There's electric generators running on diesel.
有柴油发电机。
Place reeks of diesel in addition to the smell of corpses and dead animals and rotting vegetation, and this stinking water everywhere, just oil, toxic crap.
这里除了尸体、死动物和腐烂植被的气味外，还散发着柴油的臭味，到处都是臭水，只是石油，有毒的垃圾。
Boy, here we are on St. Joseph and Commerce, and there's just garbage in all directions.
天哪，我们在圣约瑟夫和商业区，到处都是垃圾。
Shopping carts-- oh, this must be where all the looting took place.
购物车——哦，这一定是所有抢劫发生的地方。
That's exactly what this is.
这就是这个。
Oh, it is so strange and so sad.
哦，这真是太奇怪了，也太悲伤了。
There's the D-Day Museum.
这里有诺曼底登陆博物馆。
Jeez, looks like they've looted the D-Day museum.
天啊，看起来他们已经洗劫了诺曼底登陆博物馆。
That is really strange, looting the gift shop of the D-Day museum.
这真是奇怪，抢劫诺曼底登陆博物馆的礼品店。
This really smells bad out here.
这里真的很难闻。
Unfortunately, it's because there are quite a few bodies over there by the edge of the Convention Center.
不幸的是，因为会议中心边缘有不少尸体。
Oh God, this is just awful.
天哪，这太可怕了。
Now we're heading uptown on Tchoupitoulas.
现在我们正前往丘皮图拉斯 (Tchoupitoulas) 的住宅区。
Jeez, I've got to be careful for these tires, too, now that I think about it.
天啊，现在我想起来了，我也必须小心这些轮胎。
I do have another tire back there, but I'm told there's a lot of roof tacks in the street.
我那里确实有另一个轮胎，但我听说街上有很多车顶钉。
There's a lot of glass everywhere, a lot of metal shards, and just the streets are in bad, bad, bad shape.
到处都是大量的玻璃，大量的金属碎片，街道的状况非常糟糕。
Wow, there's people walking.
哇，有人走路了。
Maybe I can even talk to--
也许我什至可以和——
Hey man, how you doing?
嘿伙计，你好吗？
So you working with?
那么你和谁一起工作呢？
FEMA, FEMA.
联邦应急管理局，联邦应急管理局。
We was working across the river today.
今天我们在河对岸工作。
As you can see, we cleared up all of St. Charles.
正如你所看到的，我们清理了整个圣查尔斯。
We cleared out all Louisiana.
我们清理了整个路易斯安那州。
We clearing up everywhere.
我们到处清理。
We're just cleaning up, man.
我们只是在打扫卫生，伙计。
And it's giving me something to do, keep me from thinking about my family most, sitting down, just concentrating on doing something constructive.
它让我有事可做，让我不再去想我的家人，而是坐下来，专注于做一些有建设性的事情。
I've found that by putting your mind on work, you don't feel bad about anything else going on.
我发现，当你全神贯注于工作时，你就不会因为其他事情而感到难过。
They was trying to run us out of the houses and stuff, talking about evacuating.
他们试图把我们赶出房子之类的东西，谈论疏散。
But why shall I leave?
但我为什么要离开？
They got people coming in from out of town working.
他们让人们从外地过来工作。
I talked to a guy before I got the job where I'm working at now.
在我找到现在工作的工作之前，我和一个人谈过。
This guy was from Houston, Texas, a temporary worker working on it.
这个人来自得克萨斯州休斯顿，是一名临时工。
Why the citizens that live here can't stay down here and work?
为什么住在这里的市民不能留在这儿工作？
It doesn't make sense.
这没有道理。
They got so much money coming up.
他们得到了很多钱。
Yeah, let the locals rebuild it.
是的，让当地人重建它。
And he want to run us out.
他还想把我们赶出去。
And then, I didn't want to leave this animal here to die.
然后，我不想把这只动物留在这里等死。
I didn't want her to die.
我不想让她死。
I didn't want to leave her out on the street to get hit or none of that.
我不想把她留在街上挨打，或者什么都没有。
I couldn't leave her, and my daughters never would have forgiven me.
我不能离开她，我的女儿们也永远不会原谅我。
When they come home, Lord blessed me to still be here, I'm going to surprise them.
当他们回家时，主祝福我还在这里，我要给他们一个惊喜。
I'm going to hide that dog.
我要把那只狗藏起来。
I'm going to say, Destiny gone.
我想说，命运已经消失了。
I couldn't keep her.
我无法留住她。
And I'm going to come out with her.
我要和她一起出去。
And I know how they're going to feel.
我知道他们会有何感受。
I know how they going-- I got it all planned too.
我知道他们进展如何——我也已经计划好了。
I'm going to see my family again.
我要再次见到我的家人了。
When do you think you'll get your family back in town?
你认为你什么时候能让你的家人回到城里？
Oh, I don't know.
哦，我不知道。
They're talking about like two to three months, something like that.
他们谈论的是大约两到三个月之类的事情。
It's going to be really hard, because I shed a few tears because I miss them, but I know they in a better place than where I'm at.
这真的很难，因为我因为想念他们而流了几滴眼泪，但我知道他们在一个比我现在更好的地方。
But I don't know where they at.
但我不知道他们在哪里。
I don't know where anyone at.
我不知道有人在哪里。
I can't even talk to my mother.
我什至不能和我妈妈说话。
She left before the storm.
她在暴风雨来临前离开了。
The day before the storm she was in Mississippi.
暴风雨发生的前一天，她在密西西比州。
I haven't talked to her since.
从那以后我就没有和她说过话了。
Well, you take care, man.
好吧，你保重，伙计。
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
很高兴与您交谈。
You have a safe trip.
您旅途平安。
Watch yourself, because the army people just told me they got some bad guys running around.
小心点，因为军队的人刚刚告诉我他们有一些坏人到处乱窜。
Running around uptown here?
在这里附近的住宅区跑来跑去？
Man Yeah, he say they in the area.
伙计 是的，他说他们在该地区。
I got to go a little further uptown.
我得去更远一点的住宅区。
I hope I don't see any.
我希望我什么也看不见。
Bye-bye.
再见。
Hmm, those guys look a little suspicious in that truck.
嗯，卡车里的那些家伙看起来有点可疑。
It's a little spooky up here.
这里有点阴森恐怖。
It's about 5:45 in the afternoon here, Wednesday afternoon.
星期三下午，这里大约是下午 5 点 45 分。
Coming up to the intersection of Tchoupitoulas and Napoleon, famous for the Tipitina's nightclub.
即将到达丘皮图拉斯 (Tchoupitoulas) 和拿破仑 (Napoleon) 的交汇处，这里以 Tipitina 夜总会而闻名。
I had heard there'd been some musicians sleeping here.
我听说有一些音乐家睡在这里。
I don't know what the deal is, though.
不过我不知道这笔交易是什么。
Oh, here's a landmark: Hansen's Sno-Bliz, the snowball shop that I love so much.
哦，这里有一个地标：Hansen's Sno-Bliz，我非常喜欢的雪球店。
And it looks OK.
看起来还不错。
Now I'm coming to Magazine Street, which is, of course, a major thoroughfare.
现在我来到了杂志街，这当然是一条主干道。
I don't want them to think this microphone is a gun.
我不想让他们认为这个麦克风是一把枪。
There's some cops kind of eyeing me, but I'm going to wave to them.
有些警察在盯着我看，但我要向他们挥手。
Hey, guys.
嘿，伙计们。
See my house in the distance, just can barely see it in the distance now.
远远地看我的房子，现在几乎看不到远处了。
There's a SUV going by it.
有一辆SUV从旁边经过。
Jeez, I'm kind of nervous just coming back, worried.
天哪，我刚回来有点紧张，担心。
A lot of trees down right near the house.
房子附近有很多树。
Oh God, it's my house.
天哪，这是我的家。
Looks like one window might have blown down in the dining room, unless somebody busted in there.
看起来餐厅的一扇窗户可能被炸毁了，除非有人破门而入。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I'm going to go in the house with a-- drop the cargo.
我要进屋去放下货物。
Go in the house with a flashlight.
拿着手电筒进屋。
I got to be the first one back in the hood.
我必须是第一个回到引擎盖的人。
This is really strange.
这实在是太奇怪了。
There's those insects in the trees.
树上有那些昆虫。
It's so bloody quiet.
真是太安静了。
[KNOCKS] I don't think anybody's in here.
[敲门声] 我认为这里没有人。
I sure hope not.
我当然希望不会。
The alarm was left on.
警报一直开着。
Doesn't look like anybody's been fooling with this place.
看起来没有人在这个地方开玩笑。
Ooh, doesn't smell too good.
哦，味道不太好闻。
Hello, anybody home?
喂，有人在家吗？
I always keep this little bell here by the door.
我总是把这个小铃铛放在门边。
[BELL CHIMES] Service.
[铃声] 服务。
It does smell a little bit of rotten food in here.
这里确实有一点腐烂食物的味道。
I'm almost afraid to open the refrigerator, because it's been about-- Phew.
我几乎不敢打开冰箱，因为它是关于——唷。
Oh.
哦。
Oh.
哦。
Oh God, that will make you puke.
天哪，这会让你呕吐。
We're back in the back downstairs bathroom.
我们回到楼下后面的浴室。
There's my little boy's stool.
这是我小男孩的凳子。
Gets up to wash his hands.
起身去洗手。
Yeah, I heard the water was on, but--
是的，我听说水开了，但是——
The whole window is beautiful.
整个窗户都很漂亮。
The window pane is an ovular window pane with with stained glass.
窗玻璃是带有彩色玻璃的卵形窗玻璃。
I'm just going to take the damn tape off.
我只是要把那该死的胶带撕下来。
It saved it.
它救了它。
Let's assume there won't be another hurricane here anytime soon.
我们假设这里不会很快再发生另一场飓风。
I am so lucky.
我很幸运。
I am just so lucky.
我太幸运了。
Real question is will we ever live here again.
真正的问题是我们还会再住在这里吗？
Let's go into my son's room.
我们去我儿子的房间吧。
This is Perry's room.
这是佩里的房间。
The doors seem to be sealed shut.
门似乎被封住了。
It won't-- there it goes.
它不会——就这样。
This is his brother Gardner's room.
这是他弟弟加德纳的房间。
He hasn't moved into it yet, because he's only four months old.
他还没有搬进去，因为他只有四个月大。
And it looks like it's OK.
而且看起来还不错。
No one living here, and it's just incredibly sad.
没有人住在这里，真是令人悲伤。
If I started thinking about it, I'd get upset.
如果我开始思考这个问题，我就会感到不安。
It's better just to keep moving, get the list, pack, and leave, I think, at this point.
我认为，此时最好继续前进，拿到清单，收拾行李，然后离开。
I don't want to stay here.
我不想留在这里。
It's too creepy.
这也太令人毛骨悚然了。
There's just nobody around for miles.
方圆几英里内都没有人。
Margaret's given me a list here.
玛格丽特给了我一份清单。
Hope I can do all of it.
希望我能做到这一切。
Guest room, quilt on the guest bed: I got that.
客房，客房床上的被子：我明白了。
The LP records, jazz boxes, her Elvis Costello collection.
黑胶唱片、爵士乐盒、她的埃尔维斯·科斯特洛收藏。
I don't know if I can carry all that.
我不知道我是否能承受这一切。
In the bathroom downstairs, I'd better get that Wiggles towel for my son, Perry.
在楼下的浴室里，我最好给我儿子佩里拿一条 Wiggles 毛巾。
He misses it.
他想念它。
The scuzzy, I think it's called, or snuggly that goes into the jogger for little baby Gardner.
我想这就是所谓的“scuzzy”，或者“snuggly”，它被放入小婴儿加德纳的慢跑裤中。
Maybe I can get that jogger out.
也许我可以把那个慢跑者弄出来。
There's the old Mardi Gras flag, Muses flag.
有旧的狂欢节旗帜，缪斯旗帜。
I don't know why she wants that.
我不知道她为什么想要这个。
She didn't even ride that yet, but who knows?
她还没骑过，但谁知道呢？
Thomas trains, videos, Dora, Ringling Brothers circus, and the little blue jacket.
托马斯火车、视频、朵拉、林林兄弟马戏团和小蓝夹克。
Upstairs in the sun room, all the memento boxes and pictures.
楼上的阳光房，所有的纪念品盒和照片。
Running shoes, Nine West shoes.
跑鞋，九西鞋。
I haven't even gotten anything on the list for me, but I'll figure it out.
我什至还没有在清单上得到任何东西，但我会弄清楚的。
Just about got the last stuff in the car.
刚刚把最后的东西搬进车里。
Now I'm using the light of the tape recorder to find my flashlight.
现在我利用录音机的光来寻找我的手电筒。
Well, I'm back in the car.
嗯，我回到车里了。
It's really dark.
天真的很黑。
I feel like I've been a looter in my own house.
我感觉自己就像是自己家里的强盗。
I came to get possessions to last how long?
我来是为了得到能维持多久的财产？
A month?
一个月？
Two?
二？
Three?
三？
It's just hard to know what to take.
只是很难知道该吃什么。
You just take bits and pieces.
你只需要一点点。
It's like your whole life was just washing by you, and you feel like a cat burglar walking around, and every sound is pretty scary.
就好像你的一生都在被你洗着，感觉就像一只窃贼在走来走去，每一个声音都相当可怕。
Well, I'm going to go back down to the compound for the night.
好吧，我要回大院过夜了。
So I'm all alone on St. Charles Avenue.
所以我独自一人在圣查尔斯大道上。
It's very dark.
天很黑。
It's like being on a country road going through the middle of a very big city.
这就像在一条穿过大城市中心的乡村道路上一样。
Yeah, here comes a car.
是的，一辆车来了。
He's turning across my bow.
他正在绕过我的弓。
Let's see what this guy is.
我们来看看这个人是什么身份。
Let's hope we don't have a problem here.
希望我们这里没有问题。
It's like a military kind of a guy.
这就像一个军人一样的人。
That's what they told me to be careful about was, when you come down the street, that if somebody turns in front of you in a large vehicle, they could block you.
他们告诉我要小心的是，当你走在街上时，如果有人开着一辆大型车辆在你前面转弯，他们可能会挡住你。
You've got to be really careful.
你必须非常小心。
Hi, gentlemen.
嗨，先生们。
Man Don't come creeping up that fast again, OK?
伙计，别再爬得那么快了，好吗？
Sorry, I didn't see you.
抱歉，我没有看到你。
Man That's fine.
男人 没关系。
When somebody does that, you stop.
当有人这样做时，你就停下来。
Yes, sir.
是的，先生。
Man We don't know who you are.
伙计，我们不知道你是谁。
Yeah, I understand.
是的，我明白。
Man I appreciate that.
我很欣赏这一点。
No problem.
没问题。
Man Seen anything that we need to know about around here?
伙计，你在这附近看到了什么我们需要知道的事情吗？
Not really.
并不真地。
I've been up at, basically, Prytania and Jefferson area, and I have not seen or heard a peep.
我基本上去过普里塔尼亚和杰斐逊地区，但我没有看到或听到任何声音。
All right, we appreciate it.
好吧，我们很感激。
Just be safe, all right?
只是注意安全，好吗？
Yeah, man.
是的，伙计。
Wow.
哇。
Well that was fun.
嗯，那很有趣。
Those guys were on some kind of operation looking for the thieves, because they had all their lights down.
那些家伙正在进行某种寻找小偷的行动，因为他们所有的灯都灭了。
And I don't think they were too happy that I showed up.
我认为他们对我的出现不太高兴。
Their guns were drawn.
他们的枪被拔出来了。
I think that jogging stroller up top probably makes me look pretty nondescript.
我认为上面的慢跑婴儿车可能会让我看起来很不起眼。
They bought my story, anyway.
无论如何，他们买了我的故事。
Now I'm cutting back over to Prytania, and there's a big rat crossing the street here.
现在我要切回普里塔尼亚，有一只大老鼠正在过马路。
Oh, jeez [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
哦，天啊[无法理解]。
Oh, there's a kitty cat.
哦，有一只小猫。
Oh, that's so sad.
哦，那太悲伤了。
He's alive, but barely.
他还活着，但已经很弱了。
The animals are starving in this city.
这个城市里的动物正在挨饿。
Nick Spitzer.
尼克·斯皮策。
You can hear his great music show, or find out what time it's on the radio, at www.americanroutes.org.
您可以在 www.americanroutes.org 上聆听他精彩的音乐表演，或者了解广播时间。
[MUSIC - "DON'T EVER BE AFRAID TO GO HOME" BY FRANK SINATRA]
[音乐 - 弗兰克·辛纳屈的《永远不要害怕回家》]
Act Five, Water Bed.
第五幕，水床。
Well, we have one last story about homes and houses in New Orleans.
好吧，我们还有最后一个关于新奥尔良的房屋和房屋的故事。
Louann Mims is 78 years old, and never paid much attention to the annual hurricane and storm warnings in New Orleans where she lives.
卢安·米姆斯 (Louann Mims) 78 岁了，她从来没有过多关注过她所居住的新奥尔良每年的飓风和风暴警报。
But this year, this year was different.
但今年，今年不同了。
The morning of August 29, the day the hurricane hit, she got everything ready to pack her car to go to the Superdome to take refuge from the incoming flood.
8 月 29 日早上，也就是飓风来袭的那天，她收拾好一切准备，收拾好行李，准备前往 Superdome 躲避即将到来的洪水。
From a temporary housing facility in Maywood, Illinois, where she is now, she talked to Alex Kotlowitz about that day.
她在伊利诺伊州梅伍德市的一个临时住房设施中（她现在所在的地方）与亚历克斯·科特洛维茨谈论了那天的事情。
I got up in the morning and I looked out, and it looked fairly ordinary.
早上我起床向外一看，看起来很平常。
I said, well, I'm going to have a bowl of cereal and a banana.
我说，好吧，我要吃一碗麦片和一根香蕉。
I put the cereal in and poured on the milk and had two bites, and I looked, and the water was just coming in from the patio.
我把麦片放进去，倒上牛奶，咬了两口，一看，水刚刚从露台流进来。
So I got up, looked to the front part of the house.
于是我站起来，朝房子的前面看去。
Water was coming in the front door.
水从前门涌进来。
Oh, my God, what do I do?
天哪，我该怎么办？
But then it came so quickly, and within five to eight minutes there was almost five feet of water in the house.
但它来得太快了，五到八分钟之内，房子里就几乎有五英尺深的水了。
So I'm now, God, what am I going to do?
所以我现在，天哪，我该怎么办？
And everything is floating.
一切都在漂浮。
I sat on the top of the ladder, and I realized then it was getting a little later in the afternoon, and I had better just see if there was anything that I could sleep on that night, because I couldn't get out.
我坐在梯子的顶部，然后我意识到下午已经有点晚了，我最好看看那天晚上是否有什么可以让我睡觉的东西，因为我无法出去。
I couldn't go walking in all this water.
我无法在这么多水中行走。
Your house is one story?
你家是一层的吗？
Louann Mims Uh-huh.
卢安·米姆斯 嗯嗯。
It's a 10-room ranch.
这是一个有10个房间的牧场。
So I walked past the spare room, and the mattress is about to go under, so no sleeping on that one.
于是我走过那间空房间，床垫快要塌陷了，所以不能睡在那张床上。
I go to my bedroom, and my mattress was floating.
我走进卧室，发现我的床垫漂浮着。
I say, hey, I'll go get my ladder.
我说，嘿，我去拿梯子。
I can climb up there.
我可以爬到那里。
And I did, and that's where I was for eight days and eight nights.
我做到了，我就在那里待了八天八夜。
And this mattress is a Stearns & Foster, and I had just received it the end of April.
这个床垫是 Stearns & Foster 的，我四月底刚收到。
I bought the extra firm, so it must have a lot of wood in it.
我买了额外的实木，所以里面一定有很多木头。
So you're sitting, you're floating on your mattress.
所以你坐着，漂浮在床垫上。
King size or--?
特大号尺寸还是——？
A queen size.
大号双人床。
Alex Kotlowitz Are you lying on your bed all day?
Alex Kotlowitz 你整天躺在床上吗？
Well, I had no choice.
好吧，我别无选择。
Alex Kotlowitz You're just reclining, or sitting on it, or?
Alex Kotlowitz 你只是斜倚着，或者坐在上面，或者？
I was just lying.
我只是在撒谎。
Now, I had two pillows, and they were very wet, but that was all right.
现在，我有两个枕头，它们很湿，但没关系。
I was used to that.
我已经习惯了。
Well, there was times when it was about mid-thigh.
嗯，有时它大约在大腿中部。
There was one time the first day, my chest of drawers turned so that the back was up, and I stepped on it in hopes of climbing on the bed.
第一天有一次，我的五斗柜翻了，后背朝上，我踩着它，希望能爬到床上。
And it just flipped me right into the water, and I went under the water for a second.
它把我直接扔进了水里，我在水下呆了一秒钟。
And I just held my breath a little bit and floated right on up.
我只是屏住呼吸，然后就飘了起来。
My refrigerator in the kitchen went belly-up.
我厨房里的冰箱坏了。
I couldn't open the door.
我打不开门。
My refrigerator had that little door outside that has the water and the juice and the milk on the door.
我的冰箱外面有一扇小门，门上有水、果汁和牛奶。
So I opened that, and I was able to get some orange juice out.
所以我打开了它，我得到了一些橙汁。
And then I took off my meat cleaver, and I kind of broke one side of that little thing.
然后我取下切肉刀，把那个小东西的一侧弄断了。
I got some raisins, some cheese, and each morning I have a few bites because I didn't know how long I'd be there.
我买了一些葡萄干、一些奶酪，每天早上我都会咬几口，因为我不知道我会在那里待多久。
And I said, I have to have a few bites every day.
我说，我每天都要吃几口。
And then, late in the day when I got hungry, well, I just kind of ignored it.
然后，当天晚些时候，当我饿了的时候，我就忽略了它。
And to my great disappointment, when I came here and I had my physical, I had not lost one ounce.
令我非常失望的是，当我来到这里进行体检时，我并没有减掉一盎司的体重。
I was really disappointed there, because I was counting on, at least I want to get something out of this.
我真的很失望，因为我指望着，至少我想从中得到一些东西。
I want to lose a few pounds, but I didn't.
我想减掉几磅，但我没有。
What did you do about water?
你对水做了什么？
Louann Mims Well, I had a full gallon.
卢安·米姆斯 嗯，我喝了一整加仑。
I decided 12 ounces was enough for the day.
我认为 12 盎司足够一天使用。
I'd have 12 ounces of water, and that kept my kidneys healthy enough.
我喝了 12 盎司的水，这足以让我的肾脏保持健康。
It sounds like you had survival experience.
看来你有过生存经验。
How would you know?
你怎么知道？
Well, the reason-- I was in nursing for 42 years, and I kind of knew how some things would be.
嗯，原因是——我从事护理工作 42 年，我知道有些事情会是什么样子。
People say, weren't you frightened that this was happening to you?
人们说，你不害怕这种事发生在你身上吗？
Not really.
并不真地。
It's just the will to say I will not succumb to this.
这只是表明我不会屈服于这一点的意愿。
But I wasn't even thinking like that.
但我什至没有那样想。
I was just thinking of all practical things, because I knew eventually someone would find me.
我只想着所有实际的事情，因为我知道最终会有人找到我。
Sounds like you were awfully calm.
听起来你非常冷静。
What else would you do to keep your spirits up?
你还会做些什么来保持精神振奋？
When I was just lying there, I just kind of said, well, Louann, you know, you have this furniture, some of it about 40 years, and time to get some more anyway.
当我躺在那里时，我只是说，好吧，卢安，你知道，你有这些家具，其中一些已经有 40 年了，无论如何，是时候再买一些了。
I watch garden and-- what is that HGTV thing?
我看《花园》，然后 HGTV 是什么东西？
And I watch that a lot.
我经常看这个。
I enjoy that.
我很享受这样。
When I'm bored with something else on TV and there's stupid stuff, I go to that.
当我对电视上的其他节目感到厌倦并且有愚蠢的内容时，我就会去看。
So they're talking about color all the time, beautiful colors.
所以他们一直在谈论颜色，美丽的颜色。
Oranges-- well, I wouldn't want red or anything like that, but maybe a pale orange or a pale yellow.
橙子——嗯，我不想要红色或类似的东西，但也许是淡橙色或淡黄色。
And then I thought, well, now I have a chance, and I never really liked the Formica they had on my countertops, so I thought, now I'll get marble.
然后我想，好吧，现在我有机会了，而且我从来没有真正喜欢过他们在我的台面上贴的福米卡，所以我想，现在我会得到大理石。
And I did not like the floor covering they had on it, now I'll get ceramic tile.
我不喜欢他们铺的地板，现在我要买瓷砖了。
The carpet, of course, has got to be thrown out.
当然，地毯必须扔掉。
But I said, now I'll have hardwood floors, because that's what I want anyway.
但我说，现在我要铺硬木地板，因为无论如何这就是我想要的。
Saying, oh, that looks pretty good.
说，哦，看起来不错。
So you're on your mattress every day, just lying there, and you're thinking about redecorating your house?
那么您每天都躺在床垫上，并考虑重新装修您的房子？
Well, yeah, I did.
嗯，是的，我做到了。
That's the way I was motivating myself.
这就是我激励自己的方式。
If I was going to say, oh poor me, I might die here of this or that, or why don't somebody come and get me?
如果我想说，哦可怜的我，我可能会死在这里或死，或者为什么没有人来接我呢？
I figured they would eventually make rounds, and they would find me.
我想他们最终会四处巡视，并找到我。
During those eight days, what did you miss the most?
这八天里，你最怀念的是什么？
I have so many TVs in my house, because I love television.
我家里有很多电视，因为我喜欢看电视。
I have six.
我有六个。
I had one in each bedroom.
我每间卧室都有一个。
In the great room was like two in there, because I had a very large one, 53, for sports.
大房间里大约有两个人，因为我有一个非常大的房间，53，用于运动。
I'm an avid sports fan, so I love all the tennis, all the golf, and all the basketball.
我是一个狂热的体育迷，所以我喜欢所有的网球、所有的高尔夫和所有的篮球。
So I enjoy that on my large screen.
所以我喜欢在大屏幕上观看。
But I never missed it one time, and I could not understand why I didn't miss it.
但我从来没有错过过一次，我也不明白为什么我没有错过它。
I really did not miss it.
我真的没有错过。
And what were you wearing during all this time?
那这段时间你穿的是什么？
A bra.
胸罩。
That's all, because everything else got so wet.
仅此而已，因为其他一切都湿透了。
I mean, I didn't have anything anyway.
我的意思是，反正我什么也没有。
I had that old muumuu that I wore outside.
我有一件我在外面穿的旧muumuu。
I had that on the first day of the storm, and that was wet.
我在暴风雨第一天就遇到了这种情况，而且很湿。
After that, through these eight days, I just had on a bra, nothing more.
之后的八天里，我只穿了胸罩，仅此而已。
Did you learn anything about yourself that you didn't know before?
你是否了解了一些你以前不知道的关于自己的事情？
Well, always my upcoming, I was terribly, terribly, terribly poor when I was growing up.
好吧，总是我即将到来的，我在成长过程中非常非常贫穷。
And I thought that there was a white world and a black world.
我认为有一个白色的世界和一个黑色的世界。
I thought white people had things that black people didn't have because of the two worlds, and blacks were not permitted those things.
我认为白人拥有黑人所没有的东西，因为这是两个世界，而黑人不允许拥有这些东西。
Well, when I grew up, and I left Louisiana when I was 17 years old and ended up in Michigan, I discovered, oh, money was the problem.
好吧，当我长大后，17 岁时我离开了路易斯安那州，最终来到了密歇根州，我发现，哦，钱是问题所在。
So when I discovered that, then I said-- I don't know, I can say I set out to prove that I could be equal.
所以当我发现这一点时，我说——我不知道，我可以说我开始证明我可以平等。
And so I educated myself.
所以我自我教育。
I set out to improve myself.
我开始努力提高自己。
I was the kind of person, I have so many clothes.
我就是这样的人，我有很多衣服。
No one woman ever needed as many clothes as I've had in my life.
在我的一生中，没有哪个女人需要这么多衣服。
I had pajamas that I had never worn: silk, beautiful pajamas.
我有一套从未穿过的睡衣：丝绸的、漂亮的睡衣。
I have two full-length mink coats, and I have a beautiful Persian.
我有两件长款貂皮大衣，还有一件漂亮的波斯貂皮大衣。
It was just ironic that, when I arrived here, I came here in an old muumuu which I didn't notice that was on the wrong side.
讽刺的是，当我到达这里时，我穿着一辆旧的 muumuu 来到这里，但我没有注意到它是在错误的一侧。
I had no underclothes on, and I had no shoes.
我没有穿内衣，也没有鞋子。
I've had 100 pairs of shoes in my lifetime.
我一生中拥有100双鞋。
So I never want to own all that stuff again.
所以我再也不想拥有所有这些东西了。
So you realized you just didn't need all of that?
所以你意识到你并不需要所有这些？
After her rescue, Louann Mims was put on a plane to Chicago wearing only the muumuu she was rescued in and a pair of socks that a relief worker gave her.
获救后，卢安·米姆斯 (Louann Mims) 被送上飞往芝加哥的飞机，只穿着她获救时穿的 muumuu 衣服和救援人员给她的一双袜子。
She's currently at a facility run by the state of Illinois, hoping to get a new apartment somewhere near her daughter.
她目前在伊利诺伊州经营的一家机构中，希望在女儿附近找到一套新公寓。
The daughter plans to write a thank you letter to the mattress company, Stearns & Foster, at some point.
女儿计划在某个时候给床垫公司 Stearns & Foster 写一封感谢信。
She talked with Alex Kotlowitz, author of Never a City So Real, There Are No Children Here, and other books.
她与《从未有过如此真实的城市》、《这里没有孩子》等书的作者亚历克斯·科特洛维茨进行了交谈。
Well, our program was produced today by Sarah Koenig, Julie Snyder, and myself, with Alex Blumberg, Diane Cook, Jane Feltes, Amy O'Leary, and Lisa Pollak.
好吧，我们今天的节目由莎拉·科尼格、朱莉·斯奈德和我本人以及亚历克斯·布隆伯格、黛安·库克、简·费尔特斯、艾米·奥利里和丽莎·波拉克共同制作。
Julie's also our senior producer.
朱莉也是我们的高级制片人。
Elizabeth Meister runs our website.
伊丽莎白·梅斯特 (Elizabeth Meister) 负责运营我们的网站。
Production help from Todd Bachmann and Chris Ladd.
托德·巴赫曼 (Todd Bachmann) 和克里斯·拉德 (Chris Ladd) 为制作提供帮助。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] Our website, www.thisamericanlife.org, where you can listen to any of our programs for absolutely free, or buy CDs of them.
[致谢] 我们的网站 www.thisamericanlife.org，您可以在其中完全免费收听我们的任何节目，或购买其中的 CD。
Or you know you can download today's program, or our archives, at audible.com/thisamericanlife.
或者您知道您可以在 audible.com/thisamericanlife 下载今天的节目或我们的档案。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight for our program by Mr. Torey Malatia, who most weeks has this reaction when he hears our show:
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理部门由 Torey Malatia 先生对我们的节目进行监督，他大多数时候听到我们的节目时都会有这样的反应：
Phew.
唷。
Oh.
哦。
Oh.
哦。
Oh God, that will make you puke.
天哪，这会让你呕吐。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of this American life.
下周我们将带来更多有关美国生活的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。