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Prologue Ira Glass It took not one, not two, but three, three big breaks to get Marisela and Yadira to college.
序言 艾拉·格拉斯 玛丽塞拉和雅迪拉花了不是一次、两次、而是三次、三次的重大突破才进入大学。
Every time they got a break, they thought it was a done deal, nothing more to say, and then they just had to start over from scratch and wait for the next bolt of lightning.
每次休息的时候，他们都以为事情已经板上钉钉了，没什么可说的，然后就只能从头开始，等待下一道闪电。
They were honors students, in the top 10% of their class, AP courses, all that stuff.
他们是优等生，在班上名列前 10%，参加 AP 课程等等。
They were ambitious.
他们雄心勃勃。
They wanted to go to college.
他们想上大学。
But they didn't have the money for it.
但他们没有钱。
Then one day, in their junior year, a man comes to their high school talking about a scholarship program called the Daniels Fund, which sends students to special college prep classes for months.
然后有一天，在他们大三的时候，一名男子来到他们的高中谈论一项名为“丹尼尔斯基金”的奖学金计划，该计划将学生送入特殊的大学预科课程数月。
And then if they do well in those classes, they get their entire tuition paid at the college of their choice.
然后，如果他们在这些课程中表现出色，他们就可以在自己选择的大学获得全额学费。
Great, right?
太棒了，对吧？
It's a first big break.
这是第一个重大突破。
They get in the program.
他们加入了这个计划。
They start the special classes.
他们开始特殊课程。
They're happy.
他们很高兴。
They're doing great.
他们做得很好。
And then they hear a rumor that despite what they had been told by that man who came to visit their class, the scholarships only go to US citizens.
然后他们听到一个谣言，尽管那个来参观他们班级的人告诉他们，奖学金只提供给美国公民。
Marisela and Yadira-- they live in the US, but they are not citizens.
Marisela 和 Yadira——他们住在美国，但不是公民。
Their parents brought them to the US from Mexico when they were little kids.
当他们还是孩子的时候，他们的父母把他们从墨西哥带到了美国。
So they went to their adviser.
于是他们去找了他们的顾问。
And they were told, yeah, there was a misunderstanding.
他们被告知，是的，这是一个误会。
They weren't going to be able to get any scholarship money when these special classes were finished.
这些特殊课程结束后，他们将无法获得任何奖学金。
And I remember she said that they didn't want us in the prep program because we were taking up the space of the students that could actually get it.
我记得她说他们不希望我们参加预科课程，因为我们占用了真正能够获得预科课程的学生的空间。
That's when it really hit me.
就在那时，它真正击中了我。
Like woah.
就像哇。
And I remember getting very depressed and I even started skipping some classes.
我记得我变得非常沮丧，甚至开始逃课。
Because I remember thinking that why do so much work for nothing?
因为我记得我在想，为什么做这么多工作却没有结果呢？
So that's where I would just go into my room and just stay there the whole day.
所以我就走进自己的房间，在那里待上一整天。
I would talk on the phone.
我会通过电话交谈。
And then when there was no one to talk to, I would just sit there and think.
然后当没有人可以说话时，我就会坐在那里思考。
Here's how harsh this was.
这是多么残酷。
Marisela and Yadira had two friends in advanced placement classes whose families also came over from Mexico.
马里塞拉和亚迪拉有两个朋友在先修班，他们的家人也来自墨西哥。
Except the friends were born in the United States.
除了朋友出生在美国。
They could get the scholarships.
他们可以获得奖学金。
They had social security numbers, which you need before you can get most financial aid.
他们有社会安全号码，您需要这些号码才能获得大部分经济援助。
And suddenly, it felt kind of hard to be friends with them.
突然间，我觉得和他们成为朋友有点困难。
We were all the same, and we all had the same type of parents and the same type of living.
我们都是一样的，我们都有同样类型的父母和同样类型的生活。
And it was just like-- I was mad that they had their papers and that we didn't when, in fact, we were the same.
就像——我很生气他们有证件而我们没有，而事实上我们是一样的。
It was just like luck or something, that they got more lucky than we did.
这就像运气什么的，他们比我们幸运。
And it was just not fair because it's not like you could-- we couldn't buy luck.
这不公平，因为这不像你能做到的——我们买不到运气。
We could buy a fake social security, but we can't buy the luck to get a real one.
我们可以买到假的社会保障，但买不到获得真正社会保障的运气。
And then, Marisela and Yadira got their second big break.
然后，玛丽塞拉和亚迪拉获得了第二次重大突破。
They found a scholarship program that helps undocumented students.
他们找到了一个帮助无证学生的奖学金计划。
But again, there was a catch.
但同样，有一个问题。
Yadira got a full scholarship.
亚迪拉获得了全额奖学金。
Marisela, she didn't.
玛丽塞拉，她没有。
They both cried when they got the news.
得知这个消息后，两人都哭了。
And that whole day it was really hard for us to talk to each other.
那天我们真的很难互相交谈。
This is Marisela.
这是马里塞拉。
Marisela Not because-- I wasn't mad at her.
玛丽塞拉：不是因为——我没有生她的气。
But just because everything came tumbling on me.
但只是因为一切都在我身上翻滚。
Oh, I felt like less, like less than her.
哦，我感觉自己比她差，比她差。
I saw my life in an instant, what it was going to be like.
我在那一瞬间看到了我的生活，它会是什么样子。
And I saw bad things coming, like me working, something that I don't want to do, or marrying young just to get out of a situation.
我看到不好的事情即将发生，比如我在工作，做一些我不想做的事情，或者为了摆脱困境而年轻结婚。
I cried so hard.
我哭得很厉害。
And she didn't know what to do.
她不知道该怎么办。
She was like, oh, don't worry.
她说，哦，别担心。
She started crying too.
她也开始哭泣。
She was all like, I'll raise enough money, you could go to beauty school, like to do your hair and to do your nails.
她都说，我会筹集足够的钱，你可以去美容学校，喜欢做头发和做指甲。
You could go there.
你可以去那里。
I'm like, oh mom.
我就像，哦，妈妈。
I didn't know what to tell her, because for her it was a big thing.
我不知道该告诉她什么，因为这对她来说是一件大事。
But to me, that's not what I wanted.
但对我来说，这不是我想要的。
This happens more often than you'd think.
这种情况发生的频率比你想象的要高。
Public schools in America have to accept undocumented kids up through high school.
美国的公立学校必须接受高中以下的无证儿童。
But once they graduate-- this is over 50,000 kids a year-- they have no more rights.
但一旦他们毕业——每年有超过 50,000 名孩子——他们就没有更多的权利。
They can't work because they're not citizens.
他们无法工作，因为他们不是公民。
And though, theoretically, they can go to college as international students from another country, in practice, most undocumented kids are like other kids.
尽管从理论上讲，他们可以作为来自另一个国家的国际学生上大学，但实际上，大多数无证孩子和其他孩子一样。
They need financial aid, which is a problem because most scholarships follow what the federal government does.
他们需要经济援助，这是一个问题，因为大多数奖学金都遵循联邦政府的规定。
And federal student aid, Pell Grants, can't go to undocumented students.
联邦学生援助佩尔助学金不能提供给无证学生。
Given all that, it was especially amazing that Marisela got her third big break.
考虑到这一切，玛丽塞拉获得第三次重大突破尤其令人惊讶。
A private donor heard of her situation and ponied up most of the money that she would need for college.
一位私人捐助者听说了她的情况，并支付了她上大学所需的大部分资金。
The school put up the rest.
剩下的都是学校安排的。
At first, Marisela thought, OK, three big breaks-- three huge big breaks-- now they're set.
起初，玛丽塞拉想，好吧，三个重大突破——三个巨大的重大突破——现在已经确定了。
They are set.
它们已经设置好了。
But actually, as time has passed, other problems have become clearer to them.
但实际上，随着时间的推移，其他问题他们也越来越清楚。
For instance, it's a long shot that they're ever going to become citizens.
例如，他们成为公民的可能性很小。
Even if they marry Americans, it would take years to make that happen legally.
即使他们与美国人结婚，也需要数年时间才能合法实现。
And in the meantime, they're scared of getting caught by the INS.
与此同时，他们害怕被移民局抓住。
They worry about the future as much as they ever did.
他们一如既往地担心未来。
I'm working really hard in college.
我在大学里真的很努力。
But I still don't know what's waiting for me.
但我仍然不知道等待我的是什么。
It seems like I'm just living life to the day.
看来我只是过着这一天的生活。
I have goals.
我有目标。
But I don't have ways of how I'm going to get there.
但我不知道如何到达那里。
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life distributed by Public Radio International.
这是来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》，由国际公共广播电台发行。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today on our program, My Big Break, stories of people who get their shot, their chance, their once in a lifetime opportunity that they think can solve all their problems, and then, of course, after the big break they discover all sorts of other problems that they never imagined before.
今天在我们的节目《我的大突破》中，讲述了那些获得机会的人的故事，他们的机会，他们认为可以解决所有问题的一生一次的机会，然后，当然，在大突破之后，他们发现了他们以前从未想象过的各种其他问题。
Act One of our program today, Take My Break, Please.
我们今天的节目第一幕，请稍事休息。
In that act, two entertainers get the biggest possible chance anybody ever could to make the big time, and they blow it.
在那一幕中，两位艺人获得了任何人所能获得的最大机会，大放异彩，但他们却搞砸了。
Act Two, What Happens in Baghdad Stays in Baghdad.
第二幕，巴格达发生的事情就留在巴格达。
Two young men decide that it would be interesting to be part of the rebuilding of Iraq, and so they take a bus to Baghdad during the war and the bombings and the kidnappings and the danger, and they try to make their mark.
两个年轻人认为参与伊拉克重建会很有趣，因此他们在战争、爆炸、绑架和危险期间乘坐公共汽车前往巴格达，并试图留下自己的印记。
Act Three, Oedipus Hex, the true story of a third grader who stumbles upon a rare opportunity at making his mother happy, and driving his abusive father out of the picture forever.
第三幕《俄狄浦斯咒》讲述了一个三年级学生的真实故事，他偶然发现了一个难得的机会，可以让他的母亲开心，并将他虐待的父亲永远赶出画面。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Take My Break, Please.
第一幕，请休息一下。
Well, we begin our program with a classic big break which results in an equally classic result.
好吧，我们以一个经典的重大突破开始我们的计划，最终产生了同样经典的结果。
David Segal tells the story.
大卫·西格尔讲述了这个故事。
Mitzi McCall and Charlie Brill were a sketch comedy act back in the early 1960s, playing small clubs around the country, mostly in Los Angeles where they lived.
米兹·麦考尔 (Mitzi McCall) 和查理·布里尔 (Charlie Brill) 是 20 世纪 60 年代初的喜剧小品，在全国各地的小俱乐部演出，主要是在他们居住的洛杉矶。
They were married.
他们结婚了。
They still are actually.
他们实际上仍然是。
And they were struggling.
他们正在挣扎。
Then one day they got a phone call that changed their lives.
有一天，他们接到一通电话，改变了他们的生活。
We were sitting at home, and I don't know what we were--
我们坐在家里，我不知道我们是什么——
Starving.
挨饿了。
Charlie Brill Starving.
查理·布里尔挨饿了。
No, we weren't starving.
不，我们没有挨饿。
Yes.
是的。
I was starving.
我快饿死了。
Charlie Brill Well, you were hungry that day.
查理·布里尔 嗯，那天你很饿。
Oh, was that it?
哦，是这样吗？
Charlie Brill Yeah.
查理·布里尔 是的。
And the phone rang and it was our manager, Mace Neufeld, and he said, guess what?
电话响了，是我们的经理梅斯·纽菲尔德打来的，他说，你猜怎么着？
What?
什么？
I got you on The Ed Sullivan Show .
我在埃德·沙利文秀上找到了你。
And we let out a scream because that was THE show.
我们尖叫起来，因为这就是表演。
It's like today, young comics want to get on--
就像今天，年轻的漫画家想要继续前进——
Dave Letterman.
戴夫·莱特曼。
Charlie Brill Jay Leno, Dave Letterman.
查理·布里尔·杰·雷诺，戴夫·莱特曼。
Well, this was--
嗯，这是——
The ultimate.
终极。
Charlie Brill Bigger.
查理·布里尔·比格。
If you got a shot on Ed Sullivan , you had a shot at stardom.
如果你有机会出演艾德·沙利文，你就有机会成为明星。
We were just so thrilled.
我们太激动了。
And immediately, we started to work on the piece of material that we selected for The Ed Sullivan Show .
我们立即开始制作为埃德·沙利文秀选择的素材。
And we rehearsed and rehearsed, and we fine-tuned it.
我们排练了又排练，并进行了微调。
We ran down to The Horn in Santa Monica.
我们跑到了圣莫尼卡的 The Horn。
We broke it in.
我们把它打破了。
It got a lovely, lovely reaction.
它得到了一个可爱的、可爱的反应。
And we told everybody.
我们告诉了所有人。
In fact, I think I sky-wrote it over Hollywood.
事实上，我想我是在好莱坞的天空写下它的。
We're on The Ed Sullivan Show.
我们正在参加《埃德·沙利文秀》。
Yoo-hoo!
哟吼！
Yeah.
是的。
Charlie Brill And we were on our way.
查理·布里尔 我们正在路上。
This wasn't just a shot at greatness.
这不仅仅是一次伟大的尝试。
This was a chance to meet a few of their idols who'd be on the show that night too, people like Tessie O'Shea, Georgia Brown, who were both big musical theater stars.
这是一个见到当晚也会出现在节目中的几位偶像的机会，比如泰西·奥谢 (Tessie O'Shea)、乔治亚·布朗 (Georgia Brown)，他们都是音乐剧大明星。
But to Charlie and Mitzi, the biggest deal of all was a guy they'd already met.
但对查理和米兹来说，最重要的是他们已经见过的人。
We were just in awe of Frank Gorshin, a great, great, great impressionist--
我们只是敬畏弗兰克·戈尔辛，一位伟大、伟大、伟大的印象派画家——
Impressionist.
印象派。
Charlie Brill --And The Riddler on Batman.
查理·布里尔——还有《蝙蝠侠》中的谜语人。
We had probably done maybe something with Frank Gorshin.
我们可能和弗兰克·戈尔辛一起做了一些事情。
I think it was something for Frank Gorshin.
我认为这对弗兰克·戈辛来说是件好事。
I shined his shoes.
我擦亮了他的鞋子。
And I was so in awe.
我非常敬畏。
So, we get to New York and we go to rehearsal by taxi.
所以，我们到达纽约，乘出租车去排练。
And there's thousands of people in the streets, clamoring and--
街上有成千上万的人大声喧哗——
And the streets are cordoned off.
街道也被封锁。
Is that the word?
是这个词吗？
Yeah.
是的。
Cordoned.
封锁了。
And I looked at Mitzi and I said, my god, all this for Frank Gorshin.
我看着米兹，我说，天哪，这一切都是为了弗兰克·戈尔辛。
They were given the worst dressing room in the building, on the top floor, a space they shared with the soda machine.
他们的更衣室是大楼里最差的，位于顶层，与汽水机共用一个空间。
But they didn't care.
但他们不在乎。
They were both 26 years old, and they were about to go national.
他们都26岁了，即将进入国家队。
But first, it was time for a dress rehearsal.
但首先，是彩排的时候了。
Here's the deal.
事情是这样的。
We didn't know that the dress rehearsal was something that was looked at very carefully.
我们不知道彩排是经过非常仔细的审视的。
By all the executives.
由所有高管。
Mitzi Mccall Exactly.
米兹·麦考尔 没错。
And they have an audience.
他们有观众。
We didn't know.
我们不知道。
We were coming down in our bathrobes with hair curlers.
我们穿着浴袍带着卷发器下来。
And we go through our act.
我们会执行我们的行动。
And when we get to a punchline, instead of doing--
当我们谈到一个妙语时，而不是这样做——
The punchline.
妙语。
Mitzi Mccall --We go blah, blah, blah.
Mitzi McCall——我们胡说、胡说、胡说。
Because we don't want to reveal the punchline.
因为我们不想透露笑点。
We want the band to laugh.
我们希望乐队开怀大笑。
And we don't want-- it was a secret, our punchlines.
我们不想——这是一个秘密，我们的笑点。
So we used to go-- and here we are.
所以我们过去常去——现在我们来了。
And Mitzi, by the way, blah, blah, blah.
顺便说一下，Mitzi，等等，等等。
So then we schlep upstairs to our dressing room and we hear in the loudspeaker, McCall and Brill, Mr. Sullivan's office please.
然后我们拖着沉重的步伐上楼到更衣室，我们听到扩音器里传来麦考尔和布里尔的声音，请到沙利文先生的办公室。
McCall and Brill.
麦考尔和布里尔。
So we go down and we go into Mr. Sullivan's office and there he was--
所以我们下去，进入沙利文先生的办公室，他在那里——
Oh my God.
天哪。
Charlie Brill --Ed Sullivan.
查理·布里尔——艾德·沙利文。
He was sitting in the chair, getting made up.
他坐在椅子上，正在化妆。
And I looked at the man who could make our entire careers.
我看着那个可以成就我们整个职业生涯的人。
So he said, what you did in dress rehearsal-- first of all, I don't get the blah, blah, blahs.
所以他说，你在彩排中做了什么——首先，我不明白那些废话、废话、废话。
Is that-- I'm not getting that.
那是——我不明白。
And we said, no, Mr. Sullivan.
我们说，不，沙利文先生。
Those are our punchlines and we want them to be fresh.
这些是我们的妙语，我们希望它们是新鲜的。
And he said, oh, well, I wish you would let us in on them for the dress rehearsal.
他说，哦，好吧，我希望你能让我们参加彩排。
And he said, and the piece of material you're doing is too sophisticated for this audience.
他说，你正在做的材料对于观众来说太复杂了。
And I went, what?
我就去了，什么？
Because I had seen the Sullivan show all my life.
因为我一生都看过沙利文的表演。
And he said, well, there's going to be mostly 14, 15, 16-year-old girls in the audience tonight.
他说，好吧，今晚观众中大部分是 14、15、16 岁的女孩。
And kids.
还有孩子们。
And it never occurred to me to say, why?
我从来没想过要说，为什么？
What are we doing, like a circus show?
我们在做什么，就像马戏表演一样？
And he said, so show me your entire act.
他说，那就让我看看你的整个表演吧。
And because we were so new and eager to please, we stood there in the office and showed Mr. Sullivan our entire nightclub act.
因为我们是新人，渴望取悦别人，所以我们站在办公室里向沙利文先生展示了我们整个夜总会的表演。
Anything we had ever worked on.
我们曾经做过的任何事情。
Sketches.
草图。
Mitzi Mccall Blah, blah, blah.
米兹·麦考尔 废话，废话，废话。
Yeah, sketches.
是的，草图。
Mitzi Mccall And he said, OK, here's the deal.
Mitzi McCall 他说，好吧，事情就是这样。
We're going to put that first girl that comes in--
我们要把第一个进来的女孩——
In the first sketch.
在第一个草图中。
We'll put her in the second sketch.
我们会把她放在第二幅草图中。
But then you do the other girl that you did in the third sketch in the second sketch.
但是然后你在第二个草图中画了你在第三个草图中画的另一个女孩。
That's what you end with.
这就是你的结局。
Now we went, uh, OK.
现在我们走了，呃，好吧。
They went back upstairs in something close to a panic.
他们带着近乎惊慌的心情回到楼上。
Basically, they had just been told to write a new act, right then and there, instead of the routine they had been fine-tuning for weeks.
基本上，他们只是被告知要当场写一个新的表演，而不是他们已经调整了几周的惯例。
They might have freaked out, but they didn't have time.
他们可能吓坏了，但他们没有时间。
The curtain was going up in an hour.
一小时后大幕即将拉开。
We were in a daze.
我们都愣住了。
We didn't really know what he said.
我们实在不知道他说了什么。
Should we put the first--
我们应该把第一个——
What did he say?
他说什么？
Charlie Brill If we take the first girl and put it in the third-- and then there was a knock on the door.
查理·布里尔 如果我们把第一个女孩放在第三个女孩身上——然后就会有人敲门。
The door was open, but there was a knock.
门开着，但有人敲门。
And there's this guy standing there with funny hair and granny glasses.
这个家伙站在那里，头发滑稽，戴着老太婆眼镜。
And he said--
他说——
Give us a coke-luv.
给我们一杯可乐吧。
Charlie Brill Give us a coke-luv.
查理·布里尔 给我们一杯可乐。
And I looked at Mitzi and I said, this guy wants a glove or something.
我看着米兹，我说，这家伙想要手套什么的。
I'm not sure what he wants.
我不确定他想要什么。
And he started to laugh and he said, no, give us a coke-luv.
他开始大笑，说，不，给我们一杯可乐吧。
The Coke machine.
可乐机。
And I said, oh yeah, well come in.
我说，哦，是的，好吧，进来吧。
It's all yours.
都是你的了。
And he said, can you give me a dime?
他说，你能给我一毛钱吗？
10 cents.
10 美分。
And I said, oh, I got to buy you the Coke as well?
我说，哦，我也得给你买可乐？
OK.
好的。
What do you think, we're made out of money, kid?
你觉得怎么样，我们是用钱做的，孩子？
Yeah.
是的。
David Segal The worst part was that this guy seemed to want to just hang out.
大卫·西格尔 (David Segal) 最糟糕的是，这家伙似乎只想出去玩。
So he helped himself to a seat on the sofa.
于是他扶着自己在沙发上坐下。
While he's talking to us, he takes out of his pocket a napkin and a pen and he's drawing me.
当他和我们说话时，他从口袋里掏出一张餐巾纸和一支笔，画着我。
He's looking at me and he's drawing me.
他看着我，画着我。
That's nice.
那很好。
And he did some pictures of me and Mitzi on napkins.
他在餐巾纸上拍了一些我和米兹的照片。
All we thought about was, I wish this kid would go so we could work on our act.
我们所想的只是，我希望这个孩子能够走，这样我们就可以继续我们的表演。
Get out of here.
离开这里。
We haven't put the first character in the third sketch and the second in the-- and he left.
我们还没有把第一个角色放在第三个草图中，第二个角色放在——然后他就离开了。
And we looked at each other and said, OK, now.
我们互相看着对方说，好吧，现在。
What are we doing?
我们在做什么？
McCall and Brill, McCall and Brill, onstage for the show.
麦考尔和布里尔，麦考尔和布里尔，在舞台上观看演出。
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
晚上好，女士们先生们。
Tonight, live from New York, The Ed Sullivan Show.
今晚，来自纽约的埃德·沙利文秀现场直播。
The show was about to begin.
演出即将开始。
All the performers gathered in the wings, waiting for their turn.
所有的表演者都聚集在侧翼，等待轮到他们。
Finally, Ed Sullivan came out and announced the first act.
最后，埃德·沙利文出来宣布第一幕。
[SCREAMING] Charlie Brill We were on The Ed Sullivan Show with The Beatles.
[尖叫]查理·布里尔 我们和披头士乐队一起参加了埃德·沙利文秀。
[MUSIC-"ALL MY LOVING" BY THE BEATLES]
[音乐-甲壳虫乐队的“所有我的爱”]
We didn't realize that's what the crowds were for.
我们没有意识到这就是人群的目的。
Because, to be very honest, we didn't really know who The Beatles were.
因为，说实话，我们并不真正知道披头士乐队是谁。
Actually, our manager, when he called us and said, you're going to be on The Ed Sullivan Show.
事实上，我们的经理打电话给我们并说，你将参加《埃德·沙利文秀》。
And he said, and guess what?
他说，你猜怎么着？
You're going to be with The Beatles.
你将和披头士乐队在一起。
And we said, who?
我们说，谁？
The guy with the pen?
那个拿着笔的人？
The one who drew the pictures?
画图的那个人？
That, of course, was John Lennon.
那当然是约翰·列侬。
And this was February 9, 1964, the first time a US audience had laid eyes on The Beatles.
那是 1964 年 2 月 9 日，美国观众第一次看到披头士乐队。
Years later, Lennon said he thought the kids that night had lost their minds.
多年后，列侬说他认为那天晚上的孩子们已经疯了。
Charlie, watching from 20 feet away, thought so too.
查理在 20 英尺外观看，也这么认为。
Honest to God, my hand to God, I tell you-- we couldn't hear them.
对上帝诚实，对上帝说实话，我告诉你——我们听不到他们的声音。
The screams, all through what they did, were so loud I never got a chance to hear what they sounded like, who was singing.
他们所做的一切中的尖叫声是如此之大，我根本没有机会听到他们的声音，谁在唱歌。
Yeah, I'd heard about Sinatra at the Paramount.
是的，我在派拉蒙听说过辛纳屈。
People were screaming.
人们尖叫起来。
But this, I never heard or saw such bedlam in my life.
但我一生中从未听过或见过如此混乱的场面。
Now, when they're finished, the screams keep going on.
现在，当他们结束时，尖叫声仍在继续。
[SCREAMING] David Segal It must have dawned on you at that moment, or was it before, that this was a cultural phenomenon?
[尖叫]大卫·西格尔 在那一刻，或者之前，你一定意识到这是一种文化现象吗？
Just off the charts.
刚刚超出图表。
I really need to be rigorously honest right now.
我现在真的需要非常诚实。
No, it didn't, no.
不，没有，没有。
No. We were too nervous of what we were going to do.
不，我们对自己要做的事情太紧张了。
Please.
请。
Charlie Brill I mean, I knew they were a hit.
查理·布里尔（Charlie Brill）我的意思是，我知道它们很受欢迎。
But, you know what?
但是，你知道吗？
We hadn't gone on yet.
我们还没有继续。
I wanted to know that we were going to be fabulous.
我想知道我们会变得很棒。
Crazy.
疯狂的。
David Segal 73 million Americans watched The Ed Sullivan Show that night, about 40% of the entire country.
当晚，7300 万美国人观看了大卫·西格尔 (David Segal) 的《埃德·沙利文秀》(The Ed Sullivan Show)，约占全国人口的 40%。
Ordinarily, when that many people come together, it's for the last episode of a long-running TV series or for playoff games, teams they already know.
通常，当这么多人聚集在一起时，是为了观看一部长期播出的电视剧的最后一集，或者是为了季后赛，他们已经认识的球队。
Not for a show that turns the stage over to an act that nobody's heard of.
不是为了一场将舞台变成无人知晓的表演的节目。
Arguably, Mitzi and Charlie had the single greatest break in the history of show business.
可以说，米兹和查理取得了演艺界历史上最伟大的突破。
People forget this was an hour long program, with The Beatles playing a few songs at the beginning and then a few songs toward the end.
人们忘记了这是一个长达一个小时的节目，披头士乐队在开始时播放了几首歌曲，然后在结尾播放了几首歌曲。
In between, there were six different acts from Vaudeville, from Broadway, from the circus, from everything rock was about to bulldoze aside.
其间，有来自歌舞杂耍、百老汇、马戏团以及一切即将被推倒的摇滚乐的六场不同的表演。
It was basically the future sharing a bill with the doomed.
这基本上是未来与注定要失败的人分担账单。
Which is why, after The Beatles finished singing "She Loves You," the next thing on The Ed Sullivan Show that night was a guy in a tux doing a card trick.
这就是为什么当披头士乐队唱完“她爱你”后，当晚埃德·沙利文秀上的下一件事是一个穿着燕尾服的男人玩纸牌戏法。
We do the trick with one, two, three, four, red spot cards.
我们用一张、两张、三张、四张红色点卡来完成这个任务。
Now from these four red spot cards I take in my right hand-- my right hand is, of course, always the hand with the thumb on the left side.
现在，我从这四张红色斑点卡中取出我的右手——当然，我的右手始终是拇指在左侧的手。
Now in this hand--
现在在这手上——
There is an acrobatic novelty act.
有一个杂技新奇的表演。
There's Tessie O'Shea, a very large woman in a sequined gown, playing a banjo, doing her signature tune, "Two Ton Tessie from Tennessee."
泰西·奥谢 (Tessie O'Shea) 是一位穿着亮片长袍的身材魁梧的女人，正在弹奏班卓琴，演奏着她的标志性曲调“来自田纳西州的两吨泰西”。
[SINGING] They play tennis on her double chin.
[唱歌] 他们用她的双下巴打网球。
They call her Two Ton Tessie, Two Ton Tessie from Nashville, Tennessee.
他们称她为“两吨泰西”，来自田纳西州纳什维尔的“两吨泰西”。
Frank Gorshin comes on with 10 minutes of impersonations-- Dean Martin, Burt Lancaster, Anthony Quinn.
弗兰克·戈尔辛 (Frank Gorshin) 上场，模仿迪恩·马丁 (Dean Martin)、伯特·兰卡斯特 (Burt Lancaster)、安东尼·奎因 (Anthony Quinn) 长达 10 分钟。
The far-fetched conceit of his act doesn't seem quite so far-fetched 40 years later.
40 年后，他的行为似乎并不那么牵强。
Well, it's election year and once again a lot of the Hollywood stars will be out campaigning for the candidates of both parties.
嗯，今年是选举年，许多好莱坞明星将再次为两党候选人竞选。
Well, a funny thing occurred to me, what if these stars should suddenly decide to run for these offices themselves?
好吧，我想到了一件有趣的事情，如果这些明星突然决定自己竞选这些职位怎么办？
They'd have no trouble getting votes because of their popularity.
由于他们的受欢迎程度，他们毫无困难地获得选票。
In just a short time, the stars will be running the country.
用不了多久，明星就会统治国家。
He imagines a meeting of the US Senate where character actor, Broderick Crawford is Vice President and people like Marlon Brando are senators.
他想象美国参议院召开一次会议，其中角色演员布罗德里克·克劳福德 (Broderick Crawford) 担任副总统，马龙·白兰度 (Marlon Brando) 等人担任参议员。
Tonight, we're going to discuss what an [UNINTELLIGIBLE] change made the present two-party system [UNINTELLIGIBLE] would you raise your hand and say, aye?
今晚，我们将讨论 [无法理解] 的改变使目前的两党制 [无法理解] 你能举手说，是吗？
Opposed, no. [UNINTELLIGIBLE] 10-4.
反对，不。 [难以理解] 10-4。
Mr. Chairman, for years now, year after year after year, there have been just two major parties-- one at Frank Sinatra's house and the other one at Dean Martin's.
主席先生，多年来，年复一年，只有两个主要的聚会——一个在弗兰克·辛纳屈家，另一个在迪恩·马丁家。
Just two years after this, Ronald Reagan was elected Governor of California.
仅仅两年后，罗纳德·里根当选为加利福尼亚州州长。
[MUSIC- "THE ARTFUL DODGER" BY DAVY JONES]
[音乐-戴维·琼斯的《狡猾的道奇》]
This is the Artful Dodger from the musical, Oliver , played here by an 18-year-old Davy Jones.
这是音乐剧《奥利弗》中的巧妙道奇，由 18 岁的戴维·琼斯扮演。
When he heard the screams that evening, he thought-- and this is a quote-- "I'd like a little bit of this action." Two years later, he was cast as a member of The Monkeys, the made-for-TV knockoff of The Beatles.
那天晚上，当他听到尖叫声时，他想——这是一句引言——“我想要一点这样的行动。”两年后，他被选为“猴子乐队”的成员，该乐队是披头士乐队的电视模仿品。
Mitzi and Charlie were slated for what was probably the worst slot on the show.
米兹和查理被安排出演可能是节目中最糟糕的角色。
They were the last act before The Beatles returned for the final songs.
这是披头士乐队回归演唱最后几首歌之前的最后一场演出。
We were in a daze.
我们都愣住了。
But we heard him introduce us.
但我们听到他介绍我们。
We walked out.
我们走了出去。
Now, the screams came on because they wanted The Beatles.
现在，尖叫声不断响起，因为他们想要披头士乐队。
That's when I said I thought I heard, get them off.
就在那时我说我想我听到了，把他们拿走。
I think I said it.
我想我说过了。
Ed Sullivan Now, we take you to Hollywood at a very tense moment in the career of a young, aspiring actress, the office of McCall and Brill.
艾德·沙利文 现在，我们带您来到好莱坞，这位年轻、有抱负的女演员的职业生涯正处于非常紧张的时刻，麦考尔和布里尔的办公室。
Miss Tidy, would you come into my office right away please?
蒂迪小姐，请您马上到我办公室来一下好吗？
Yes, sir.
是的，先生。
Neat, neat, neat, neat, everything nice and neat.
整齐，整齐，整齐，整齐，一切都那么整洁。
That's me.
这就是我。
Hello, sir.
你好先生。
Miss Tidy, I am having a terrible time trying to find a young actress to star in my next motion picture.
蒂迪小姐，我在寻找一位年轻女演员来出演我的下部电影时遇到了困难。
Yes sir.
是的，先生。
Charlie Brill Now, are the young ladies outside waiting to be interviewed?
查理·布里尔 现在，外面的年轻女士们在等待接受采访吗？
Yes sir, they're neatly waiting outside sir.
是的，先生，他们正在外面整齐地等待着先生。
I'll send them in.
我会把他们送进去。
The premise here is that Charlie's a director casting a movie, and Mitzi is his secretary and then a bunch of different women auditioning for the role.
这里的前提是查理是一位正在选角的导演，米兹是他的秘书，然后是一群不同的女性试镜这个角色。
She plays an aspiring starlet.
她扮演一位有抱负的新星。
Hi, sir.
嗨，先生。
You might not remember me, but I was Miss Palm Springs back in 1956.
你可能不记得我了，但我是 1956 年的棕榈泉小姐。
A stage mom.
舞台妈妈。
Mitzi Mccall So if you're not interested in her, maybe you can be interested in me.
Mitzi McCall：所以，如果你对她不感兴趣，也许你会对我感兴趣。
You know, I have a little talent.
你知道，我有一点天赋。
[SINGING] 'Cause everything's coming up roses.
[唱歌]因为一切都会如玫瑰花般绽放。
And a method actor.
还有一个方法演员。
Mitzi Mccall Then and only then can the true justification of the motivation of our inside urgency, henceforth find the infinitesimal need of our outward action, dig?
米兹·麦考尔（Mitzi McCall）：只有这样，我们内心的紧迫感的动机才能真正合理，从此找到我们外在行动的无限微小的需要，挖掘？
Did you notice the dead silence after she says, dig?
你有没有注意到她说“挖”之后一片死寂？
In a room that only 30 minutes earlier had been filled with a noise that scared the cops.
就在 30 分钟前，这个房间还充满了吓坏警察的噪音。
That's a lot of silence.
这是很多沉默。
So you were up there for, what, how long do you think?
所以你在那里呆了多久，你觉得多久？
Two minutes or something like that?
两分钟或者类似的时间？
It was two years.
已经两年了。
Mitzi Mccall Two years.
米兹·麦考尔 两年了。
We were there for two years.
我们在那里待了两年。
We started at 24.
我们是24点开始的。
We didn't know what we were doing.
我们不知道自己在做什么。
We didn't know if we finished the act or didn't finish the act.
我们不知道我们是否完成了表演或没有完成表演。
But the band leader had the punchline and he played, tada.
但乐队领队有妙语，他演奏了，tada。
And now, you want to see a couple of Jews standing there so nervous, looking to see if--
现在，你想看到几个犹太人如此紧张地站在那里，看看是否——
If Mr. Sullivan is going to call us over.
如果沙利文先生要打电话给我们的话。
--Ed would call us over because that's what makes you.
——艾德会打电话给我们，因为这就是你的魅力。
Did he call us over?
他叫我们过来了吗？
No.
不。
We were looking at each other saying, did he motion to us?
我们面面相觑，问他有向我们示意吗？
Wasn't that a motion?
这不是动议吗？
No, no get off.
不，不下车。
Charlie Brill It wasn't.
查理·布里尔 事实并非如此。
Get off.
下车。
Did you have a sense at the time that it had gone well or gone poorly?
当时你有感觉事情进展顺利还是进展不佳吗？
No, no. We knew immediately.
不，不。我们立刻就知道了。
Charlie Brill No we knew-- into the toilet.
查理·布里尔 不，我们知道——进厕所。
Yeah.
是的。
But see, they didn't have this expression then but, we sucked.
但是看，他们当时没有这种表情，但是，我们很糟糕。
It was, in fact, the worst three minutes of their lives.
事实上，这是他们一生中最糟糕的三分钟。
They bombed so bad that when they came off stage, people wouldn't look at them.
他们的表现太糟糕了，以至于当他们走下舞台时，人们都不会看他们。
Mitzi's mom dodged their call.
米兹的妈妈躲开了他们的电话。
The biggest terror was that we didn't want to go home.
最大的恐惧是我们不想回家。
We did not want to go back to Los Angeles.
我们不想回洛杉矶。
But that night we felt so bad.
但那天晚上我们感觉很糟糕。
And Frank Gorshin was nice enough to take us to Downey's.
弗兰克·戈尔辛（Frank Gorshin）非常好心地带我们去了唐尼店（Downey's）。
Sardi's.
萨迪的。
Charlie Brill Sardi's.
查理·布里尔·萨迪的。
And we had a drink and he said, don't worry.
我们喝了一杯，他说，别担心。
This is not the end of your lives.
这不是你们生命的终结。
And we said, oh my God.
我们说，天啊。
It was such a fiasco that in 40 years, neither of them have actually seen their performance.
就是这么惨败，四十年来，他们俩都没有真正看到过自己的表现。
Until now.
到目前为止。
Watching a tape of it, the first thing Charlie noticed was that they actually did get a couple laughs.
查理在观看录像带时注意到的第一件事是，他们确实引起了一些笑声。
It made me quite ill.
这让我病得很厉害。
Miss Tidy, send in the next young lady, please.
蒂迪小姐，请派下一位年轻女士进来。
Hi, sir.
嗨，先生。
I'm the next young lady's mother.
我是下一位小姐的妈妈。
My little girl is waiting outside.
我的小女儿正在外面等着。
She used to be one of The Beatles.
她曾经是披头士乐队的成员之一。
What happened?
发生了什么？
Mitzi Mccall Somebody stepped on her.
米兹·麦考尔 有人踩到了她。
That was funny.
这很有趣。
You ad libbed that.
你即兴说的。
You know something, Mitz?
你知道一些事情吗，米兹？
We were a hit.
我们很受欢迎。
No, you know what comes to-- Charlie Brill We were a hit.
不，你知道会发生什么——查理·布里尔 我们很受欢迎。
Look at us, cute.
看看我们，可爱。
You know what?
你知道吗？
There's something wrong with you.
你有问题。
It was pathetic.
真是可悲。
The problem, they both say, is that they had to rearrange their act for 14-year-olds in a hurry the day of the broadcast.
他们俩都说，问题在于他们必须在播出当天匆忙地为 14 岁的孩子重新安排表演。
They're still convinced that if they'd been invited on the show any other night, things would have been different.
他们仍然坚信，如果他们被邀请参加其他任何一个晚上的节目，情况就会有所不同。
As it happened, they retreated back home, where their agent didn't call for six long months.
碰巧的是，他们撤回了家，他们的经纪人在长达六个月的时间里没有给他们打电话。
From then on, they'd wince every time they heard The Beatles.
从那时起，每次听到披头士乐队的声音，他们都会皱起眉头。
Imagine that.
想象一下。
They had the rest of the '60s ahead of them.
他们还面临着 60 年代的剩余时光。
They were in for a lot of wincing.
他们陷入了很多退缩。
But Mitzi and Charlie regrouped and recovered, and they had long and fine careers.
但米兹和查理重新振作起来，恢复了健康，他们的职业生涯又漫长又美好。
Through the '60s and '70s, they played nightclubs and Vegas.
整个 60 年代和 70 年代，他们在夜总会和维加斯演出。
And they were on television a lot, goofy stuff like The Gong Show , but great programs too like The Tonight Show , which they were on four times.
他们经常上电视，有一些愚蠢的节目，比如《锣秀》，但也有很棒的节目，比如《今夜秀》，他们上过四次。
Mitzi later wrote for sitcoms like Alf .
米兹后来为《阿尔夫》等情景喜剧创作剧本。
Charlie eventually landed a leading role on a detective show called Silk Stalkings, which ran on the USA Network for nine years.
查理最终在一部名为《丝绸追踪》的侦探剧中担任主角，该剧在美国电视网播出了九年。
They have a daughter whom they adore.
他们有一个深爱的女儿。
No knock on Alf, but it gradually dawned on Mitzi and Charlie that on February 9, 1964, they were part of something seismic.
阿尔夫没有受到任何打击，但米兹和查理逐渐意识到，1964 年 2 月 9 日，他们是一场地震的一部分。
We were in the midst of greatness.
我们正处于伟大之中。
We didn't know it.
我们不知道。
People would come up to us and say, wasn't that you that was on The Beatles show?
人们会走过来对我们说，披头士乐队演出的不是你吗？
And we said, yes, yes, waiting for them to say, boy, did you suck.
我们说，是的，是的，等着他们说，孩子，你很糟糕吗？
And they went, oh my God, you're famous.
他们说，天哪，你很有名。
Mitzi and Charlie are retired now.
米兹和查理现已退休。
Though last month they performed on stage for the first time in a couple decades, opening for their old friend, Ann-Margret.
上个月，他们几十年来第一次登台表演，为他们的老朋友安·玛格丽特开场。
Meanwhile, The Beatles have split up.
与此同时，披头士乐队已经解散。
Hell, Wings have split up.
天哪，Wings已经分裂了。
But four decades after they flamed out in front of nearly half the country, Mitzi and Charlie are still together, still standing, and still refining the act.
但在他们在近半个国家面前熄火四十年后，米兹和查理仍然在一起，仍然站立，仍然完善表演。
I said to Dixie.
我对迪克西说。
Mitzi Mccall Mitzi.
米兹·麦考尔·米兹。
Mitzi is my name.
米兹是我的名字。
Mitzi, Mitzi.
米兹，米兹。
I said to Mitzi, let's go to Florida.
我对米兹说，我们去佛罗里达吧。
Did you call me Dixie?
你叫我迪克西吗？
Charlie Brill I think I may have.
查理·布里尔 我想我可能有。
No, what do you have a girlfriend after--
不，你以后有女朋友是什么--
No, there's no Dixie.
不，没有迪克西。
Mitzi Mccall All right, never mind.
米兹·麦考尔 好吧，没关系。
It doesn't matter.
没关系。
Forget the Dixie.
忘记迪克西吧。
Mitzi Mccall What am I doing in this relationship?
米兹·麦考尔 (Mitzi McCall) 在这段关系中我在做什么？
Anyway, I said to Mitzi-- Ira Glass David Segal is a reporter with the New York Times .
不管怎样，我对米兹说——艾拉·格拉斯·大卫·西格尔是《纽约时报》的记者。
This weekend, Charlie and Mitzi celebrate their 49th wedding anniversary.
这个周末，查理和米兹庆祝他们的结婚 49 周年纪念日。
Act Two.
第二幕。
What Happens in Baghdad Stays in Baghdad.
巴格达发生的事情就留在巴格达。
This next story is sort of the international version of starting in the mailroom and getting a big break.
下一个故事有点像国际版的从收发室开始并获得重大突破。
It begins when Jeff and Ray decide to spend a few months on vacation in a war zone.
故事开始于杰夫和雷决定去战区度假几个月。
Jen Banbury met them when they showed up for dinner one night at the house she was sharing with a few other journalists in Baghdad.
一天晚上，珍·班伯里 (Jen Banbury) 在巴格达与其他几名记者合住的房子里共进晚餐时遇见了他们。
She lived there for 10 months writing about the war for Salon.com.
她在那里住了 10 个月，为 Salon.com 撰写有关战争的文章。
Here's Jen.
这是珍。
Jeff and Ray couldn't imagine not wanting to go to Baghdad.
杰夫和雷无法想象不想去巴格达的情景。
It was all they thought about for a while.
这是他们一时间所想的一切。
They'd see it on the news and want to be there.
他们会在新闻中看到它并想参与其中。
They wanted to see it firsthand.
他们想亲眼目睹。
They wanted to see a war zone, and they wanted to help.
他们想看看战区，他们想提供帮助。
They had just spent a few weeks in the West Bank, volunteering with an ambulance crew.
他们刚刚在约旦河西岸呆了几周，在救护人员身边做志愿者。
In Baghdad, they wanted to work.
在巴格达，他们想工作。
That was our goal all along, was to go over there and try to find work.
这一直是我们的目标，就是去那里寻找工作。
We said-- oh, you know what I think our plan was?
我们说——哦，你知道我认为我们的计划是什么吗？
Two weeks, if we can't get a job--
两周后，如果我们找不到工作——
We were going to split and we were going to go to Afghanistan or Africa, I think.
我想我们会分手，我们会去阿富汗或非洲。
I don't remember.
我不记得了。
Jen Banbury Back in the States, they had been working at Fenway Park in Boston selling Cokes.
Jen Banbury 回到美国后，他们一直在波士顿的芬威球场卖可乐。
They made enough money to travel, thanks to a simple idea.
由于一个简单的想法，他们赚了足够的钱去旅行。
After years of hearing Boston fans yell, "Yankees suck," they decided to put the slogan on T-shirts and sell them at the games.
多年来听到波士顿球迷大喊“洋基队太糟糕了”后，他们决定将这句口号印在 T 恤上并在比赛时出售。
So many drunk, diehard Red Sox fans bought them that Jeff and Ray could travel for months during the off-season using the profits.
如此多的醉酒顽固红袜队球迷购买了它们，以至于杰夫和雷可以利用所得利润在休赛期旅行数月。
Getting into Iraq turned out to be surprisingly easy.
事实证明，进入伊拉克出奇地容易。
From Israel, they made their way to Amman, Jordan.
他们从以色列出发前往约旦安曼。
And from there, they found the cheapest way to get to Baghdad, public bus.
从那里，他们找到了前往巴格达最便宜的方式：公共巴士。
It's a nine hour drive, but it ended up taking Jeff and Ray over 20, because the bus kept breaking down.
车程为 9 个小时，但杰夫和雷最终花了 20 多个小时，因为公共汽车总是抛锚。
It was pretty crazy.
这太疯狂了。
It was a quote, unquote, five star bus.
这是一辆引用，不引用，五星级巴士。
What is a five star bus?
什么是五星级巴士？
Jeff Neumann That's what I'd like to know.
杰夫·诺依曼：这就是我想知道的。
It was just the way that the Jordanians tried to sell us the product.
这就是约旦人试图向我们推销产品的方式。
"It's a five star bus.
“这是一辆五星级巴士。
Very good Mr.--"
非常好的先生——”
They think five star means good.
他们认为五星级意味着好。
They have five star hotels, five star restaurants in Amman.
他们在安曼拥有五星级酒店、五星级餐厅。
Why not a five star bus?
为什么不是五星级巴士？
Jeff Neumann Yeah, so we get to the bus terminal and it's bullet holes in the windows, fallen apart.
杰夫·诺依曼 是的，我们到了巴士总站，发现窗户上有弹孔，已经散架了。
We got on the bus, and it was like the record scratched when you walk in.
我们上了公共汽车，当你走进去的时候，就像唱片被划伤了一样。
It was like [RECORD SCRATCHING NOISE].
就像[记录刮擦噪音]。
Me and Ray walk in.
我和雷走进去。
We're like-- what's going on, guys?
我们就像——发生了什么事，伙计们？
We broke down in Fallujah, and we're like pissing on the side of the road, just like OK.
我们在费卢杰崩溃了，我们就像在路边撒尿一样，就像好的一样。
And there was fighting going on.
而且战斗还在继续。
There were huge, black plumes of smoke coming up from the city.
城市里冒出巨大的黑色烟雾。
We were like, wow.
我们当时想，哇。
Were you starting to second guess it at all at that point?
那时您是否开始重新猜测？
When you're seeing helicopters and smoke and--
当你看到直升机和烟雾时——
We just-- I think we had a little something to drink, or--
我们只是——我想我们喝了点东西，或者——
Yeah.
是的。
We had a few drinks.
我们喝了几杯。
Ray Lemoine Yeah, we weren't that concerned.
Ray Lemoine 是的，我们并没有那么担心。
It was that easy.
就是这么简单。
They were in.
他们进来了。
No credentials, no papers.
没有证件，没有证件。
When they finally got to Baghdad, Jeff and Ray were half asleep, half drunk, and had no idea where they were going.
当他们终于到达巴格达时，杰夫和雷已经半睡半醒，不知道要去哪里。
They remembered the name of a hotel that they had read about in the news where journalists supposedly stayed, and they got a taxi to take them there.
他们记得在新闻中读到的一家酒店的名字，据说是记者们下榻的地方，于是他们叫了一辆出租车送他们去那里。
Right away, they started looking for jobs with private companies and with the CPA, the Coalition Provisional Authority that was running Iraq at the time.
他们立即开始在私营公司和当时管理伊拉克的联军临时权力机构 CPA 寻找工作。
Everybody in the CPA, when they first met us was like, so how exactly did you get here?
CPA 的每个人，当他们第一次见到我们时，都会想，那么你到底是怎么来到这里的呢？
And then they would just laugh and scratch their heads and stuff.
然后他们就会大笑、挠头等等。
But the CPA desperately needed people to help run parts of the government that had never existed under Saddam.
但CPA迫切需要有人帮助管理萨达姆统治下从未存在过的政府部门。
And desperation breeds opportunity.
绝望孕育着机会。
Jeff and Ray actually ended up getting pretty important jobs, coordinating about 400 Iraqi organizations that had sprung up to distribute clothes and school supplies, and tons of other donations coming in from the States.
事实上，杰夫和雷最终找到了相当重要的工作，协调大约 400 个伊拉克组织，这些组织如雨后春笋般涌现，分发衣服和学习用品，以及来自美国的大量其他捐款。
We had airport hangars full of donated clothing and stuff.
我们的机场机库里装满了捐赠的衣服和物品。
And did you have any experience in doing stuff like that from before?
您以前有做过类似事情的经验吗？
Yeah, the T-shirts.
是的，T 恤。
Because our whole thing was, I'm never carrying a box.
因为我们的整个事情是，我从来没有带过盒子。
We always had to carry these boxes, because we made the shirts.
我们总是不得不搬运这些盒子，因为我们制作了衬衫。
We were like, we're never carrying boxes again.
我们当时想，我们再也不会提箱子了。
We swore it off forever.
我们发誓永远分手。
Ray Lemoine We swore off boxes.
Ray Lemoine 我们发誓不再使用盒子。
And then we show up in Iraq and our job is boxes.
然后我们出现在伊拉克，我们的工作就是箱子。
I remember, I'd see Jeff sorting.
我记得，我会看到杰夫在分类。
I'd come in and--
我进来后——
It'd be like a flashback.
这就像闪回一样。
Ray Lemoine It would just be a flashback.
Ray Lemoine 这只是一个闪回。
And he'd just be like, I want to kill myself.
他就会说，我想自杀。
They were immediately working 16-hour days.
他们立即开始每天工作 16 小时。
And because they didn't care about following all the rules, they were actually able to get more done than lots of people at the CPA.
因为他们并不关心遵守所有规则，所以他们实际上能够比注册会计师的许多人完成更多的工作。
For instance, they'd go to Sadr City, a huge slum on the outskirts of Baghdad, and a place most Americans never went because, under the rules, they were only supposed to travel there in an armed convoy.
例如，他们会去萨德尔城，这是巴格达郊区的一个巨大贫民窟，也是大多数美国人从未去过的地方，因为根据规定，他们只能在武装车队中前往那里。
In fact, most westerners never left the Green Zone, the fortified compound in the middle of Baghdad.
事实上，大多数西方人从未离开过绿区，即巴格达中部的戒备森严的大院。
Jeff and Ray wanted to be out working with Iraqis.
杰夫和雷想出去和伊拉克人一起工作。
They started going to Sadr City a lot, without weapons or a military escort.
他们开始经常前往萨德尔城，没有武器，也没有军队护送。
And it's one slum area of Baghdad where Saddam put most of the Shiites and he just made them live in a slum, basically.
这是巴格达的一个贫民窟地区，萨达姆将大部分什叶派人士安置在那里，他基本上让他们住在贫民窟里。
You go in there and there's two feet of raw sewage running down the middle of the streets, inside the hallways of hospitals, schools, everything.
你走进那里，就会发现两英尺深的未经处理的污水流淌在街道中央、医院、学校的走廊里，到处都是。
Donkeys on the street eating raw sewage, kids with no shoes on.
驴子在街上吃着未经处理的污水，孩子们没穿鞋。
That was one of the major things was kids didn't have shoes, and we would always try to bring them the shoes and it was--
最重要的事情之一是孩子们没有鞋子，我们总是试图给他们带鞋子，但事实是——
I've never seen anything like it.
我从来没有见过这样的事情。
It was crazy.
太疯狂了。
We were in the office and we hated it, we'd want to kill ourselves in the office but we'd get to Sadr City and it was the best.
我们在办公室里，我们讨厌它，我们想在办公室自杀，但我们到达了萨德尔城，那是最好的。
It was great.
太棒了。
We'd just go out there and play soccer with little kids all day and stuff.
我们只是出去和小孩子们整天踢足球之类的。
It was cool.
很酷。
It just made us feel good.
这让我们感觉很好。
Because we'd get back to the office from being out there, and it would be like every day was the best day of our lives.
因为我们从外面回到办公室，就好像每一天都是我们生命中最美好的一天。
Almost every day, Jeff and Ray left the Green Zone and went to a tobacco shop where they played backgammon and hung out with the old men who adored them, even if they weren't exactly sure what to make of them.
几乎每天，杰夫和雷都会离开绿区，去一家烟草店，在那里玩西洋双陆棋，并与崇拜他们的老人一起出去玩，即使他们不太确定该怎么做。
I visited the shop with Jeff and Ray once and it was like Cheers .
我和杰夫和雷一起去过这家商店一次，感觉就像干杯一样。
Everyone knew them and greeted them loudly when they came in.
每个人都认识他们，当他们进来时都大声打招呼。
The shop was just a block away from the Green Zone, but they were pretty much the only Americans who ever went there.
这家商店距离绿区仅一个街区，但他们几乎是唯一去过那里的美国人。
They'd drink tea and smoke narghile pipes with the Iraqi guys.
他们会和伊拉克人一起喝茶、抽水烟斗。
There are liquor stores in Iraq and drugstores where pharmaceutical laws are pretty lax.
伊拉克有酒类商店和药店，那里的药品法相当宽松。
You can walk into a drugstore and buy liquid Valium and a host of other potential recreational drugs without a prescription.
您无需处方即可走进药店购买液体安定和许多其他潜在的消遣性药物。
Lots of westerners do a certain amount of self-medicating in Baghdad.
许多西方人在巴格达进行一定程度的自我治疗。
But Jeff and Ray knew more about how to get that stuff than most of us.
但杰夫和雷比我们大多数人更了解如何获得这些东西。
I got the nickname of Training Wheels over there, because I fell over so much.
我在那里得到了“训练轮”的绰号，因为我摔倒的次数太多了。
I passed out in three gardens that I can think of-- your garden, the garden at Al Hamrah.
我在我能想到的三个花园里昏倒了——你的花园，哈姆拉的花园。
Yeah, I passed out on the bathroom floor in Al Hamrah.
是的，我在哈姆拉的浴室地板上昏倒了。
They'd crash parties thrown by FOX News and NBC.
他们会闯入福克斯新闻和全国广播公司举办的派对。
They hung out with these French guys who always had pot.
他们和这些总是吸大麻的法国人一起出去玩。
They drank during bombardments.
他们在轰炸期间喝酒。
They say, go downstairs to the bomb shelter.
他们说，下楼去防空洞。
And you say, do they have booze?
你说，他们有酒吗？
Then they--
然后他们——
Actually, they opened a bar in the bomb shelter.
事实上，他们在防空洞里开了一家酒吧。
Yeah.
是的。
We were in the Al-Rasheed.
我们在阿尔拉希德。
That's where we ate dinner every night.
那是我们每天晚上吃晚饭的地方。
And all of a sudden like eight or nine rockets hit the face of Al-Rasheed.
突然间，八九枚火箭弹击中了拉希德的脸。
And it just felt like the building was going to come down.
感觉就像大楼要倒塌了。
Smoke starts billowing into the dining hall.
烟雾开始滚滚进入餐厅。
Everybody's laying on the ground.
大家都趴在地上了
We're doing army crawls and [BLEEP.] And they shuffled us downstairs into--
我们正在做军队爬行，然后他们拖着我们下楼进入——
The bomb shelter.
防空洞。
Jeff Neumann --the bomb shelter.
杰夫·诺伊曼——防空洞。
But it turned out to be a sports bar.
但原来是一家体育酒吧。
And they had a big, widescreen TV with satellite.
他们有一台带卫星频道的大宽屏电视。
And they had CNN on.
他们还开着 CNN。
And they're like--
他们就像——
It was our building burning.
是我们的大楼在燃烧。
Jeff Neumann --here's the Al-Rasheed under rocket attack.
杰夫·诺依曼——这是遭受火箭袭击的拉希德号。
And there's flames billowing out of windows.
窗户外还冒出滚滚火焰。
And we're sitting in there, in the bar, watching the building we were in burn.
我们坐在酒吧里，看着我们所在的大楼被烧毁。
We were just like, what?
我们就像，什么？
And then they switched the channel back to a rugby game.
然后他们把频道切换回橄榄球比赛。
By the time Jeff and Ray got to Iraq, it was kind of shocking how few Western aid groups were there.
当杰夫和雷到达伊拉克时，令人震惊的是那里的西方援助团体如此之少。
Most had pulled out after the UN and Red Cross bombings in the fall, meaning aid work was almost at a standstill.
在秋季联合国和红十字会发生爆炸事件后，大多数人都撤离了，这意味着援助工作几乎陷入停滞。
And for all the American officials who are working really hard to rebuild Iraq, I met even more who are there to spend three months beefing up their resumes and get out.
对于所有正在努力重建伊拉克的美国官员来说，我遇到了更多的人，他们在那里花了三个月的时间充实自己的简历，然后离开。
Compared to that, Jeff and Ray were saints.
相比之下，杰夫和雷就是圣人。
They simply wanted to hang out with Iraqis and do good work.
他们只是想和伊拉克人一起出去玩，做好工作。
If you're rebuilding a country and everything's chaos, you could do a lot worse than them.
如果你正在重建一个国家，而一切都一片混乱，你可能会做得比他们更糟糕。
And Jeff and Ray did this work in the face of real danger.
杰夫和雷是在真正的危险面前完成这项工作的。
They and the people who worked with them were getting personally targeted.
他们和与他们一起工作的人成为个人攻击目标。
Every Tuesday, they'd have a big meeting for all the non-governmental organizations they worked with, right near the gate to the Green Zone.
每个星期二，他们都会在绿区门口附近为所有与他们合作的非政府组织举行一次大型会议。
Then they started-- people tried to suicide bomb the front gate three Tuesdays in a row at like 12:30.
然后他们开始——人们连续三个星期二中午 12:30 左右试图对前门进行自杀式炸弹袭击。
We were definitely asking people, what was up with that bomb?
我们肯定在问人们，那枚炸弹是怎么回事？
Yeah, how come they try to bomb the same gate every day?
是啊，为什么他们每天都试图轰炸同一个大门？
That's weird.
这很奇怪。
How come every Tuesday at 12:30 there's a bomb found, or threat, or a detonator.
怎么每周二中午12点30分都会发现炸弹，或者威胁，或者雷管。
Yeah, one time we hear a boom and see a tire flying.
是的，有一次我们听到一声巨响，看到一个轮胎飞了起来。
And we were so gullible.
我们太容易受骗了。
They were like, oh no, that was not--
他们就像，哦不，那不是——
Eventually the threats and the bombing attempts meant that Jeff and Ray had to leave early, before they felt ready.
最终，威胁和爆炸企图意味着杰夫和雷必须在他们准备好之前提前离开。
So they had to choose someone to take over the work they had started.
所以他们必须选择一个人来接手他们已经开始的工作。
It wasn't hard to decide.
做出决定并不难。
There was this guy, Haider, who they worked with in Sadr City.
他们在萨德尔城共事过一个人，名叫海德尔。
He'd drive them out there all the time.
他总是把他们赶到那里。
He became their right hand man.
他成了他们的得力助手。
Since they didn't want him to go into the job unprepared, like they had been, Jeff and Ray sent him to a non-governmental organization leadership conference in Beirut.
由于他们不想让他像以前一样毫无准备地开始工作，杰夫和雷派他去贝鲁特参加一个非政府组织领导层会议。
It was bittersweet choosing Haider.
选择海德尔是苦乐参半的。
They knew he was the best person for the job.
他们知道他是这项工作的最佳人选。
But they also knew the danger it might put him in.
但他们也知道这可能会让他陷入危险。
So we got on this flight.
于是我们就坐上了这趟航班。
Ray Lemoine Never left Baghdad in his life.
雷·勒莫因 (Ray Lemoine) 一生从未离开过巴格达。
No. And he'd never flown, obviously.
不，显然他从来没有飞过。
And a five star hotel in Beirut.
还有贝鲁特的一家五星级酒店。
We should have just told Haider, go to Lebanon and never come back.
我们应该告诉海德尔，去黎巴嫩，再也不要回来。
We did tell him.
我们确实告诉了他。
Ray Lemoine We did tell him that.
Ray Lemoine 我们确实告诉过他这一点。
When we gave him the plane ticket we were like, dude, you don't have to come back.
当我们给他机票时，我们说，伙计，你不必回来。
But we should have-- Jeff Neumann We're like, milk the room service with the room, and charge it to the US government.
但我们应该——杰夫·诺依曼（Jeff Neumann） 我们就像，用房间榨取客房服务，然后向美国政府收费。
USAID says that you're not getting room service?
美国国际开发署说您没有得到客房服务？
Destroy that minibar.
毁掉那个迷你吧。
Yeah, we're like think minibar, room service.
是的，我们就像迷你吧、客房服务一样。
We're just like milk it.
我们就像牛奶一样。
We told him-- we were like, you don't have to come back.
我们告诉他——我们想，你不必回来。
But he did.
但他做到了。
What we were told-- it was four gunmen followed him from his house, while he was on his way to the Green Zone, killed him at a traffic stop.
我们被告知——当他前往绿区的途中，四名枪手从他家跟踪他，并在一个交通站杀死了他。
Because of that--
正因为如此——
We chose him because he was-- we got him killed.
我们选择他是因为他——我们杀了他。
And-- I don't know.
而且——我不知道。
When they look back on their time in Baghdad, Jeff and Ray mostly see it as a failure.
当杰夫和雷回顾在巴格达的时光时，他们大多认为这是一次失败。
The aid program they ran doesn't exist anymore.
他们运行的援助计划已不复存在。
They got their best friend killed.
他们最好的朋友被杀了。
It's still hard for them to talk about Haider.
他们仍然很难谈论海德尔。
They just really admired him.
他们只是真的很钦佩他。
He was doing all the work they were doing, plus finishing his PhD and taking care of 13 siblings.
他做着他们正在做的所有工作，还完成了博士学位并照顾 13 个兄弟姐妹。
During the months they worked with him in Iraq, he treated them like brothers too.
在他们和他一起在伊拉克工作的几个月里，他也像对待兄弟一样对待他们。
And he made them feel like everything in Iraq might just turn out OK.
他让他们觉得伊拉克的一切可能都会好起来。
Reporter Jen Banbury with Jeff Neumann and Ray Lemoine.
记者 Jen Banbury 与 Jeff Neumann 和 Ray Lemoine。
They have a book about their experience called Babylon by Bus .
他们有一本关于他们的经历的书，名为《巴士上的巴比伦》。
Coming up, a child tries to fix his family by harnessing the most powerful force there is.
接下来，一个孩子试图利用最强大的力量来修复他的家庭。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International when our program continues.
一分钟后，芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life .
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose some theme, bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，每周我们的节目都会选择一些主题，为您带来关于该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's program, "My Big Break," stories of what happens to people after they get their big lucky chance.
今天的节目“我的重大突破”讲述了人们在获得重大幸运机会后所发生的事情。
We've arrived at Act Three of our show.
我们已经到了节目的第三幕了。
Act Three, Oedipus Hex.
第三幕，俄狄浦斯十六进制。
Shalom Auslander tells this story which happened to him when he was a boy in one of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish religious schools called Yeshivas.
沙洛姆·奥斯兰德（Shalom Auslander）讲述了这个发生在他身上的故事，当时他还是个男孩，就读于一所名为 Yeshivas 的极端正统犹太宗教学校。
Warning to listeners that although the story is about a little boy, it might be, in some very mild way, not for every child.
警告听众，虽然这个故事是关于一个小男孩的，但它可能以某种非常温和的方式并不适合每个孩子。
Rabbi Brier walked into our third grade classroom, hung up his long black coat, took off his big black hat, and handed each student a small, black booklet entitled The Guide to Blessings .
布里尔拉比走进我们三年级的教室，挂起他的黑色长外套，摘下他的大黑帽子，递给每个学生一本名为《祝福指南》的黑色小册子。
We had one week, he told us, to prepare for the annual Yeshiva of Spring Valley Blessing Bee.
他告诉我们，我们有一周的时间为一年一度的春谷祝福蜂会做准备。
My heart leapt.
我的心狂跳起来。
This was just what my mother needed.
这正是我母亲所需要的。
The Blessing Bee would make her forget all of the troubles of her home.
祝福蜂会让她忘记家里的所有烦恼。
To have a son who's a talmid chacham, a wise student, that was the ultimate.
有一个儿子是一个冷静的查查姆，一个聪明的学生，这是终极的。
Her brother was a respected rabbi, and if her husband couldn't be one, well, maybe her son could be.
她的兄弟是一位受人尊敬的拉比，如果她的丈夫不能成为一名拉比，那么也许她的儿子可以。
The Guide to Blessings was a 70-page long listing of hundreds of different foods divided into different chapters.
《祝福指南》长达 70 页，分为不同的章节，列出了数百种不同的食物。
Soups, breads, fish, desserts.
汤、面包、鱼、甜点。
I flipped through it, slowly realizing the size of the challenge that lay ahead.
我翻阅了它，慢慢意识到面前的挑战有多大。
Falafel, herring, eggplant parmesan.
沙拉三明治、鲱鱼、茄子帕尔马干酪。
I had my work cut out for me.
我的工作已经完成。
Friday afternoons, the yeshiva closed early so that we could all rush home to help our parents prepare for Shabbos, the Sabbath.
周五下午，犹太学院提前关门，这样我们就可以赶回家帮助父母为安息日做准备。
Rabbi Brier told us that the sages tell us that the Torah tells us that the preparation for Shabbos is equal to the importance of Shabbos itself.
布里尔拉比告诉我们，圣人告诉我们，《托拉》告诉我们，为安息日做准备就等于安息日本身的重要性。
Most of my preparations involved searching the house for kosher wine and pouring it down the toilet.
我的大部分准备工作就是在房子里寻找犹太酒，然后把它倒进厕所。
It was a thankless job I admitted to nobody.
这是一项吃力不讨好的工作，我没有向任何人承认。
My father's frustrated rage at not having his Manischewitz Concord Grape was fearsome, but it was far better than his drunken rage if he did have it.
我父亲因为没有得到他的马尼舍维茨康科德葡萄而感到沮丧的愤怒是可怕的，但如果他确实拥有它，这比他醉酒时的愤怒要好得多。
I'd search the pantry.
我会搜查食品储藏室。
I'd search the garage.
我会搜查车库。
I'd search my father's closet.
我会搜查我父亲的衣柜。
But I was only eight years old.
但我当时只有八岁。
And there was always a bottle of Kedem hiding somewhere I just hadn't thought to check.
总有一瓶 Kedem 藏在某个地方，我只是没想去检查一下。
That night my father, drunk on a bottle of blush Chablis that got away, grabbed my older brother by his shirt collar and dragged him away from the Shabbos table.
那天晚上，我父亲喝了一瓶腮红夏布利酒，喝醉了，然后逃跑了，他抓住我哥哥的衬衫领子，把他从沙博斯桌子上拖走。
He dragged him all the way down the stairs to our bedroom in the basement and slammed the door shut.
他把他一路拖下楼梯，来到我们位于地下室的卧室，然后砰地关上了门。
Even the silverware jumped.
就连银器也跳了起来。
"Who wants the last matzoh ball?" my mother asked.
“谁想要最后一个无酵饼球？”我妈妈问。
I made extra.
我额外做了。
When my brother returned to the table, his nose was bleeding.
当我哥哥回到餐桌时，他的鼻子在流血。
My mother brought him a can of frozen orange juice to hold against the back of his neck, which was supposed to somehow stop the bleeding.
我母亲给他带来了一罐冷冻橙汁，放在他的颈后，据说可以止血。
Rabbi Brier taught us that it is prohibited to defrost orange juice on Shabbos because changing food from solid to liquid is considered cooking.
布里尔拉比告诉我们，在安息日禁止解冻橙汁，因为将食物从固体变成液体被视为烹饪。
And cooking is considered working.
做饭也被认为是工作。
And even God refrained from working on Shabbos.
甚至上帝也没有在沙博斯上做工。
There are 39 different categories of work that are prohibited on Shabbos.
Shabbos 禁止从事 39 种不同类别的工作。
That's also why you're not allowed to switch on lights on Shabbos.
这也是为什么你不可以在 Shabbos 开灯的原因。
The electricity causes the filament to glow, which is considered burning, which is considered working-- category number two.
电力使灯丝发光，这被认为是燃烧，这被认为是工作——第二类。
My father came back to the table and drunkenly sang a few Shabbos songs, fudging the words and banging heavily on the table with his fist.
我父亲回到桌边，醉醺醺地唱了几首沙博斯歌曲，捏造歌词，用拳头重重地敲击桌子。
I sat hunched over, absent-mindedly drawing circles on the condensation that had formed on the silver water pitcher.
我弓着背坐着，心不在焉地在银色水罐上凝结的水珠上画圈。
My father slapped my hand.
父亲拍了拍我的手。
"Shabbos," he shouted.
“沙博斯，”他喊道。
Writing-- category number five.
写作——第五类。
Eventually he stumbled off to his bedroom and fell asleep snoring loudly.
最后，他跌跌撞撞地回到自己的卧室，呼呼大睡。
We sat in the dining room and picked glumly at our food.
我们坐在餐厅里，闷闷不乐地吃着食物。
The following Monday morning, as we all sat studying from our blessing books, there was a knock on Rabbi Brier's classroom door.
接下来的周一早上，当我们大家坐在一起研读祝福书时，拉比·布里尔的教室门被敲响了。
And Rabbi Greenbaum, the Yeshiva principal, solemnly entered.
犹太学院校长格林鲍姆拉比庄严地走进来。
We all rose.
我们都站了起来。
The two rabbis conferred quietly for a moment, before signaling us all to be seated.
两位拉比安静地商议了一会儿，然后示意我们大家就座。
After a few thoughtful strokes of his long black beard, Rabbi Greenbaum sighed deeply and informed us that the night before, our classmate Avrumi Gruenembaum's father had suffered a heart attack and died.
格林鲍姆拉比若有所思地抚摸着长长的黑胡子，深深地叹了口气，告诉我们，前一天晚上，我们同学阿夫鲁米·格鲁内鲍姆的父亲因心脏病发作去世了。
Some kids have all the luck.
有些孩子拥有所有的运气。
"Blessed is the one true judge," said Rabbi Brier nodding his head.
“唯一真正的法官是有福的，”布里尔拉比点点头说道。
"Blessed is the one true judge," we all answered, nodding our heads.
“独一真正的法官是有福的。”我们都点着头回答道。
I wondered what Mr. Gruenembaum might have done to deserve death.
我想知道格鲁内鲍姆先生可能做了什么而该死。
Did he bow down to idols?
他有向偶像下拜吗？
Did he walk four steps without his yarmulke on?
他没戴圆顶小帽就走了四步吗？
Whatever it was, it must have been pretty bad.
不管是什么，情况一定很糟糕。
As Rabbi Greenbaum turned to leave, he paused and with a stern shake of his finger reminded us all that the sages tell us that the Torah tells us that until the age of 13, all of a boy's sins are ascribed to his father.
当格林鲍姆拉比转身离开时，他停了下来，严厉地摇动手指，提醒我们所有人，圣贤告诉我们，托拉告诉我们，直到 13 岁，男孩的所有罪孽都归咎于他的父亲。
I turned to look at Avrumi's empty chair.
我转身看着阿夫鲁米的空椅子。
Avrumi was a chubby kid with heavy orthodontia and foul breath.
阿夫鲁米是一个胖乎乎的孩子，牙齿矫正很严重，而且口臭。
But a sudden respect for him grew inside me.
但我内心突然升起了对他的敬意。
I wondered what he might have done to cause his father's death.
我想知道他可能做了什么导致了他父亲的死亡。
Whatever it was, it must have been pretty bad.
不管是什么，情况一定很糟糕。
Scowling fiercely, Rabbi Greenbaum advised each and every one of us to pray to Hashem-- the Holy One Blessed Be He-- for forgiveness so that he wouldn't kill our fathers too.
格林鲍姆拉比皱着眉头，建议我们每个人都向哈希姆（愿他保佑的圣者）祈祷宽恕，这样他就不会杀死我们的父亲。
My heart leapt.
我的心狂跳起来。
"Blessed is Hashem," we answered.
“哈希姆是有福的，”我们回答道。
Blessed is Hashem was right.
哈希姆是对的。
All of a sudden I had two ways I could save my family.
突然之间，我有两种方法可以拯救我的家人。
I could win the Blessing Bee for my mother, or I could sin so much, Hashem would have to kill my father.
我可以为我的母亲赢得祝福蜂，否则我可能犯下太多罪，哈希姆将不得不杀死我的父亲。
Courageous Avrumi Gruenembaum, maybe one Shabbos night he had switched on a light.
勇敢的阿夫鲁米·格鲁内鲍姆（Avrumi Gruenembaum）也许在安息日的某个晚上他打开了一盏灯。
Maybe he drank milk after eating meat.
也许他吃完肉后喝了牛奶。
Maybe he touched himself.
也许是他触碰了自己。
That night, just before bed, I ate a drumstick, washed it down with some milk, touched myself, and flicked the bedroom light on and off.
那天晚上，就在睡觉前，我吃了一只鸡腿，用牛奶冲了下去，摸了摸自己，然后打开和关闭了卧室的灯。
"Break those lights and I'll break your hands," my father shouted.
“打破那些灯，我就打断你的手，”我父亲喊道。
It was going to be a busy week.
这将是忙碌的一周。
The Blessing Bee worked the same way as a spelling bee.
祝福蜂的工作方式与拼字比赛相同。
There are six basic blessings on food-- hamotzei, the blessing for bread, mezonos, the blessing for wheat, hagofen, the blessing for wine or grape juice, ha-eitz, the blessing for things that grow from trees, ho-adamah, the blessing for things that grow from the earth, and shehakol, the blessing for everything else.
关于食物有六种基本的祝福——hamotzei，对面包的祝福，mezonos，对小麦的祝福，hagofen，对葡萄酒或葡萄汁的祝福，ha-eitz，对从树上长出来的东西的祝福，ho-adamah，对从地里长出来的东西的祝福，以及shehakol，对其他一切东西的祝福。
Bagel?
百吉饼？
Hamotzei.
哈莫茨伊。
Oatmeal?
麦片？
Mezonos.
梅佐诺斯。
Gefilte fish?
鱼丸？
Shehakol, the blessing for everything else.
Shehakol，其他一切的祝福。
But that was the easy part.
但这是最容易的部分。
Things became much more complicated when you started combining foods.
当你开始混合食物时，事情变得更加复杂。
Some foods are superior to other foods, and in combination with subordinate foods, the superior food gets the blessing.
有些食物比其他食物优越，与下级食物搭配，上级食物就会得到祝福。
To make matters worse, some blessings are superior to other blessings and you had to know which blessing to recite first.
更糟糕的是，有些加持比其他加持更优越，你必须知道先念哪一个加持。
This is where they separated the men from the goys.
这是他们将男人与非犹太人分开的地方。
Spaghetti and meatballs?
意大利面和肉丸？
Mezonos, the wheat blessing.
Mezonos，麦子的祝福。
Then shehakol, the everything else blessing.
然后是shehakol，其他一切都是祝福。
Cereal with milk?
麦片加牛奶？
Shehakol for the milk, then mezonos for the wheat in the cereal.
Shehakol 用来制作牛奶，然后 mezonos 用来制作谷物中的小麦。
Twix, the chocolate candy with the cookie crunch?
Twix，带有饼干脆片的巧克力糖？
Trick question.
诡计问题。
Twix isn't kosher.
Twix 不符合犹太教规。
I spent the next week sinning and blessing, and blessing and sinning, alternately praising God and then defying him as much as one eight-year-old possibly could.
接下来的一周，我一边犯罪一边祝福，一边祝福一边犯罪，交替地赞美上帝，然后尽可能地反抗他，就像一个八岁的孩子所能做到的那样。
Monday morning, I stuffed myself.
周一早上，我吃饱了。
I had a bowl of Fruity Pebbles-- mezonos, a slice of toast-- hamotzei, a glass of juice-- shehakol, half an apple-- ha-eitz, and a couple of old french fries I found at the bottom of the fridge-- ho-adamah.
我吃了一碗果味鹅卵石——mezonos，一片吐司——hamotzei，一杯果汁——shehakol，半个苹果——ha-eitz，还有我在冰箱底部找到的几条老炸薯条——ho-adamah。
One meal, five blessings.
一餐五福。
Tuesday I touched myself.
星期二我触摸了自己。
I also partook of bread without first ceremoniously washing my hands.
我也没有先郑重地洗手就吃了面包。
And that evening, before going to sleep, I sat on the edge of my bed and carefully recited [BLEEP], [BLEEP], and ass a dozen times each.
那天晚上，睡觉前，我坐在床边仔细地念着【BLEEP】、【BLEEP】、屁股各十几遍。
My father banged angrily on my bedroom door.
父亲生气地敲着我卧室的门。
I smiled, "For you and me both, pal."
我微笑着说：“为了你和我，朋友。”
Wednesday I stole $5 from my mother and didn't recite any blessings at all on the bag full of candy that I brought with it.
星期三我从妈妈那里偷了5美元，并且对我带来的装满糖果的袋子根本没有念诵任何祝福语。
A Charleston Chew, which is traif to begin with, and a Chunky, which would have been a shehakol if I weren't trying to kill my father.
一块查尔斯顿咀嚼糖（Charleston Chew），一开始就是特拉夫（traif），还有一块厚厚的（Chunky），如果我不是想杀死我父亲的话，那本来就是谢哈科尔（shehakol）。
A Chunky with raisins?
厚实的葡萄干？
Shehakol then ha-eitz.
Shehakol 然后 ha-eitz。
Thursday I didn't wear tzitzis.
星期四我没有穿 tzitzis 衣服。
Rabbi Brier noticed that the strings weren't dangling from my sides and grabbed me by the ear and pulled me to the front of the class.
布里尔拉比注意到绳子没有从我身边晃来晃去，于是抓住我的耳朵，把我拉到班级的前面。
"Speak to the children of Israel," he quoted loudly from the Torah as he spanked me hard on my bottom.
“对以色列的孩子们说话，”他一边大声地引用《托拉》中的经文，一边用力打我的屁股。
"And tell them to make tzitzis on the corners of their garments."
“并告诉他们在衣角上做 tzitzis。”
That afternoon, after not respecting my elders by taking out the garbage like my mother had told me to, I touched myself and silently begged God to-- just this once-- credit those sins to Rabbi Brier's account.
那天下午，我没有尊重长辈，按照母亲的吩咐倒垃圾，然后摸了摸自己，默默地祈求上帝——就这一次——将这些罪孽记在拉比·布里尔的账上。
Later I defiled a prayer book by carrying it into the bathroom.
后来我把一本祈祷书带进浴室，弄脏了它。
The Blessing Bee was the following morning and I could barely sleep.
第二天早上，“祝福蜂”活动发生了，我几乎无法入睡。
Lentil soup, mezonos.
扁豆汤，mezonos。
Potato knish, ho-adamah.
土豆刀，ho-adamah。
Root beer.
根汁啤酒。
Is it a root?
是根吗？
Is it a beer?
是啤酒吗？
[BLEEP], [BLEEP], ass, bitch.
[BLEEP]，[BLEEP]，屁股，婊子。
I tossed and turned.
我翻来覆去。
I blessed and cursed.
我祝福也咒骂。
And finally I fell into an uncomfortable sleep.
最后我陷入了不舒服的睡眠中。
After a week at home, Avrumi Gruenembaum conveniently returned to school just in time for the Blessing Bee.
在家呆了一个星期后，阿夫鲁米·格鲁内鲍姆 (Avrumi Gruenembaum) 方便地回到了学校，正好赶上祝福蜂节。
It was all I could do to not lean over and ask him how he did it.
我所能做的就是不去问他是怎么做到的。
Psst, Avrumi, tell me, was it lobster?
嘘，阿夫鲁米，告诉我，这是龙虾吗？
Did you eat lobster?
你吃过龙虾吗？
Rabbi Brier told us that the sages tell us that the Torah tells us that when Abraham died, Hashem comforted Isaac.
布里尔拉比告诉我们，圣人告诉我们，《托拉》告诉我们，亚伯拉罕死后，哈希姆安慰了以撒。
We learn from this that it is a tremendous mitzvah, or good deed, to comfort the bereaved.
我们从中了解到，安慰死者家属是一件伟大的成人礼或善行。
Rabbi Brier instructed us all to line up at Avrumi's desk, to shake his hand and recite the traditional mourner's consolation-- "May Hashem comfort you among the mourners of Zion." Being just eight years old, I wasn't entirely familiar with Hashem's system.
布里尔拉比指示我们所有人在阿夫鲁米的办公桌前排队，与他握手并背诵传统哀悼者的安慰语——“愿哈希姆在锡安的哀悼者中安慰你们。”当时我才八岁，对哈希姆的系统并不完全熟悉。
But it occurred to me that, along with all my sins, my father might also be getting all my mitzvahs.
但我突然想到，除了我所有的罪孽之外，我的父亲也可能得到了我所有的成人礼。
I wasn't taking any chances.
我没有冒任何风险。
Soon it was my turn in line.
很快就轮到我了。
"How's it going?" I said to Avrumi.
“怎么样了？”我对阿夫鲁米说。
Rabbi Brier pinched me.
布里尔拉比掐了我一下。
"Ow!" I screamed.
“哎哟！”我尖叫起来。
After the last boy had asked Hashem to comfort Avrumi among the mourners of Zion, Rabbi Brier smacked his desk loudly.
在最后一个男孩请求哈希姆安慰锡安哀悼者中的阿夫鲁米后，布里尔拉比大声拍打着桌子。
The Blessing Bee began.
祝福蜂开始了。
We lined up at the back of the classroom, nervously pulling on our tzitzis and twirling our peyis.
我们在教室后面排成一排，紧张地拉着我们的titzitzes，旋转着我们的peyis。
The rules were simple.
规则很简单。
Name the correct blessing and remain standing for the next round.
说出正确的祝福并继续站立进行下一轮。
Name the wrong blessing, and you take your seat.
说出错误的祝福，然后你就坐下来。
Last year's winner, Yukisiel Zalman Yehuda Schneck, stood beside me.
去年的冠军 Yukisiel Zalman Yehuda Schneck 就站在我旁边。
He leaned calmly against the wall, mindlessly picking his nose.
他静静地靠在墙上，无意识地挖着鼻子。
"Auslander, Shalom," called out Rabbi Brier.
“奥斯兰德，沙洛姆，”布里尔拉比喊道。
I stepped forward.
我向前走去。
"Apple," he shouted.
“苹果，”他喊道。
"Apple," I called out.
“苹果，”我喊道。
"Ha-eitz," the blessing for food from trees.
“Ha-eitz”，对树上食物的祝福。
"Correct," Rabbi Brier said.
“正确，”布赖尔拉比说。
The Blessing Bee usually started off pretty easy.
祝福蜂通常一开始就很容易。
David [?
大卫[?
Borgen ?] got tuna-- shehakol, the everything else blessing.
博根？]得到了金枪鱼——shehakol，其他一切的祝福。
Ari Mashinsky got matzoh-- hamotzei, the blessing for bread.
阿里·马辛斯基 (Ari Mashinsky) 得到了 matzoh——hamotzei，对面包的祝福。
And Avi Tuchman got stuck with kugel, which he thought was ho-adamah, food from the earth, but was really mezonos, the blessing on wheat.
阿维·塔奇曼 (Avi Tuchman) 被 kugel 困住了，他认为这是 ho-adamah，来自大地的食物，但实际上是 mezonos，对小麦的祝福。
Three other kids got taken out by oatmeal.
另外三个孩子被燕麦片带走了。
Borscht with sour cream claimed two others.
酸奶油罗宋汤夺走另外两份。
And by the end of the first round, almost a third of the students were already back in their seats.
而第一轮结束时，几乎有三分之一的学生已经回到了座位上。
Round two.
第二轮。
"Auslander, Shalom," called Rabbi Brier.
“奥斯兰德，沙洛姆，”布里尔拉比喊道。
I stepped forward.
我向前走去。
"Mushroom barley soup," he shouted.
“蘑菇大麦汤，”他喊道。
Mushroom barley soup, mushroom barley soup.
蘑菇薏米汤，蘑菇薏米汤。
Damn.
该死。
I knew I should have studied the chapter on soups more.
我知道我应该更多地研究有关汤的章节。
I'd wasted half the week on entrees.
我在主菜上浪费了半周的时间。
Was it ho-adamah on the mushrooms which came from the earth?
是来自大地的蘑菇上的ho-adamah吗？
Or was it mezonos on the barley?
或者是大麦上的中间层？
Maybe it was shehakol , the everything else blessing, on the soup.
也许这就是 Shehakol（其他一切的祝福）在汤上的作用。
"Mushroom barley soup," I called out.
“蘑菇大麦汤。”我喊道。
"Mezonos."
“梅佐诺斯。”
Rabbi Brier tugged on his beard, his eyes narrowing into angry little slits.
布里尔拉比拉扯胡子，眼睛眯成一条愤怒的小缝。
"And shehakol ," I added.
“还有谢哈科尔，”我补充道。
Rabbi Brier triumphantly smacked his desk, signaling that I was correct.
布里尔拉比得意地拍着桌子，示意我是对的。
Apple strudel took out David [?
苹果馅饼拿出了大卫[？
Borgen ?], Yoel Levine and [?
博根？]、约尔·莱文和[？
Shlomo ?] Pomerantz.
什洛莫？]波美兰兹。
My friend, Motty [?
我的朋友，莫蒂[？
Greenberg ?] got stuck with cheesecake.
格林伯格？]被芝士蛋糕困住了。
And I could tell just by the expression on his face that he had absolutely no idea.
从他脸上的表情我就可以看出他完全不知道。
He wisely offered two answers, one for thin crust and one for thick, and somehow managed to stay alive.
他明智地给出了两种答案，一种是薄皮，一种是厚皮，并以某种方式设法活了下来。
It was hard to believe this was only round two.
很难相信这只是第二轮。
Avrumi stepped forward.
阿夫鲁米向前走去。
I smiled at Motty.
我对莫蒂微笑。
Avrumi may have killed his father, but he wasn't very bright.
阿夫鲁米可能杀了他的父亲，但他并不是很聪明。
And he never did well at these things.
而他在这些事情上从来都做得不好。
He was lucky to even be in the second round at all.
他很幸运能够进入第二轮。
"Bagel," shouted Rabbi Brier.
“百吉饼，”布赖尔拉比喊道。
Bagel?
百吉饼？
I looked at Motty in disbelief.
我难以置信地看着莫蒂。
Was he kidding?
他是在开玩笑吗？
Bagel?
百吉饼？
"Bagel," called out Avrumi, "Hamotzei." This was bull [BLEEP].
“百吉饼，”阿夫鲁米喊道，“哈莫茨。”这是公牛[BLEEP]。
"Correct," shouted Rabbi Brier.
“正确，”布赖尔拉比喊道。
"Very good." Ephraim Greenblat, Avrumi Epstein, and [?
“非常好。”以法莲·格林布拉特、阿夫鲁米·爱泼斯坦和[？
Yoel ?] Frankel all got out on cholent with barley and large pieces of meat.
约尔？]弗兰克尔都喝了大麦和大块肉的胆汁。
While chopped liver and challah with a slice of lettuce and a bit of olive took out four more, including Motty.
切碎的肝脏和白面包加上一片生菜和一点橄榄又取出了四个，其中包括莫蒂。
And then there were three.
然后是三个。
It was just Yukisiel Zalman Yehuda Schneck, Avrumi Gruenembaum, and me.
只有 Yukisiel Zalman Yehuda Schneck、Avrumi Gruenembaum 和我。
Round three began.
第三轮开始了。
"Auslander, Shalom," called out Rabbi Brier.
“奥斯兰德，沙洛姆，”布里尔拉比喊道。
I stepped forward.
我向前走去。
"Ice cream," shouted Rabbi Brier, "in a cone."
“冰淇淋，”布里尔拉比喊道，“是圆锥形的。”
Ice cream in a cone.
圆锥形冰淇淋。
Ice cream in a cone.
圆锥形冰淇淋。
I knew ice cream, but why would he add the cone?
我知道冰淇淋，但他为什么要加蛋筒呢？
Was there something different if it was in a cone?
如果是在圆锥体中，会有什么不同吗？
What was an ice cream cone made of anyway?
蛋卷冰淇淋究竟是用什么制成的？
Was it cake?
是蛋糕吗？
Was it a wafer?
它是晶圆吗？
"Ice cream in a cone," Rabbi Brier shouted.
“甜筒冰淇淋，”布赖尔拉比喊道。
Is the ice cream subordinate to the cone or is it the cone that's subordinate to the ice cream?
是冰淇淋从属于蛋筒，还是蛋筒从属于冰淇淋？
If it's a sugar cone, maybe you really desire the cone.
如果它是一个甜筒，也许你真的很想要这个甜筒。
"Ice cream in a cone," Rabbi Brier shouted again.
“甜筒冰淇淋，”布赖尔拉比再次喊道。
I had no choice.
我别无选择。
"Ice cream in a cone," I called out.
“甜筒冰淇淋。”我喊道。
"No blessing." Everyone in the classroom turned to face me.
“没有祝福。”教室里的每个人都转过头来面对我。
Looking back on the whole episode, Rabbi Brier had really left me no choice.
回顾整个情节，拉比·布里尔真的让我别无选择。
"No blessing," said Rabbi Brier.
“没有祝福，”布赖尔拉比说。
"Why no blessing?"
“怎么没有祝福呢？”
"Because," I explained, nervously twirling my tzitzis, "Because the room smells like doody." There was a long silence.
“因为，”我解释道，紧张地转动着我的兹兹兹，“因为房间闻起来像臭味。”一阵长时间的沉默。
Motty giggled and others followed.
莫蒂咯咯笑起来，其他人也跟着笑起来。
Rabbi Brier slowly rose to his feet, his thick fists pushing themselves into the desktop.
布里尔拉比慢慢地站了起来，粗大的拳头摁在桌面上。
It may have been a loophole, but technically speaking I was correct.
这可能是一个漏洞，但从技术上来说我是正确的。
Rabbi Brier himself had told us that our sages tell us that the Torah tells us that there are three situations in which one is absolutely prohibited from reciting a blessing.
布里尔拉比本人曾告诉我们，我们的圣人告诉我们，托拉告诉我们，在三种情况下绝对禁止背诵祝福。
One, while facing a male over the age of nine years old whose genitals are showing.
一是面对一名九岁以上、生殖器暴露的男性。
Two, while facing a female over the age of three years old whose genitals are showing.
二、面对一名三岁以上、生殖器暴露的女性。
And three, in the presence of feces.
第三，有粪便的情况下。
Frankly, given the other two options, I think I chose the least offensive answer.
坦率地说，考虑到其他两个选项，我想我选择了最不冒犯的答案。
For a big man, Rabbi Brier moved pretty quickly.
对于一个大个子来说，拉比·布里尔的动作相当快。
"It's true," I said as he barreled toward me, "The Torah says that." He grabbed me roughly by my arm, lifting me clear off the ground and dragged me towards the door, shouting angrily in Yiddish the whole time.
“这是真的，”当他冲向我时，我说道，“《托拉》就是这么说的。”他粗暴地抓住我的手臂，把我从地上举起来，拖到门口，一直用意第绪语愤怒地大喊。
"But it smells like doody," I yelled.
“但它闻起来像臭味，”我喊道。
"The room smells like doody.
“房间闻起来有股臭味。
Wait.
等等。
There's a naked girl in the room.
房间里有一个裸体女孩。
There's a naked girl." The door slammed shut behind me.
那里有一个裸体女孩。”门在我身后关上了。
I stood in the hallway and rubbed my bruised arm.
我站在走廊里，揉着受伤的手臂。
I began to cry.
我开始哭泣。
The Blessing Bee was lost.
祝福蜂号丢失了。
I was not a great rabbi.
我不是一个伟大的拉比。
And my father was still not dead.
而我的父亲还没有死。
I tip-toed toward the classroom door and listened closely.
我蹑手蹑脚地走到教室门口，仔细地听着。
Two minutes later, Yukisiel Zalman Yehuda Schneck fell victim to matzoh brei with maple syrup, and the last man standing was Avrumi Gruenembaum.
两分钟后，尤基西尔·扎尔曼·耶胡达·施内克 (Yukisiel Zalman Yehuda Schneck) 被枫糖浆的 matzoh brei 击败，最后一个站着的是阿夫鲁米·格鲁内鲍姆 (Avrumi Gruenembaum)。
"Apples," called out Rabbi Brier.
“苹果，”布赖尔拉比喊道。
"Apples," Avrumi answered.
“苹果，”阿夫鲁米回答。
"Ha-eitz."
“哈-伊茨。”
"Mazel tov," called our Rabbi Brier.
“Mazel tov”，我们的布赖尔拉比喊道。
"Mazel tov." Total bull [BLEEP].
“马泽尔托夫。”总牛[BLEEP]。
That night we had the traditional Friday night gefilte fish-- shehakol, with a little slice of carrot-- ho-adamah .
那天晚上，我们吃了传统的周五晚上鱼丸——shehakol，配上一小片胡萝卜——ho-adamah。
My father was drunk again, singing Shabbos songs, fudging the words and banging heavily on the table with his fist.
我父亲又喝醉了，唱着沙博斯歌曲，捏造歌词，用拳头重重地敲打着桌子。
My mother went into the kitchen and brought out the soup.
妈妈走进厨房，把汤端了出来。
When my brother said he didn't want any, my father slapped him, pushed him over backward onto the floor, and poured the hot chicken soup onto his face.
当我哥哥说他不要的时候，我父亲就打了他一巴掌，把他推倒在地上，把热鸡汤倒在他脸上。
My mother took my brother into the bathroom and sat with him on the edge of the bathtub, pressing a cold washcloth against his cheeks.
妈妈把弟弟带进浴室，和他一起坐在浴缸边上，用冰冷的毛巾盖在他的脸颊上。
And I went back to the dining room to wipe the chicken soup off the floor.
我回到餐厅擦掉地板上的鸡汤。
Chicken soup is a shehakol , even if it is cooked with vegetables, since chicken is the dominant taste in the soup.
鸡汤是 shehakol，即使它是与蔬菜一起煮的，因为鸡肉是汤中的主要味道。
Rabbi Brier told us that the sages tell us that the Torah tells us that the Holy One Blessed Be He sent the Egyptians 10 plagues in order to teach us that he gives people many chances to repent, and only then, if they still continue to sin, does he punish them with death.
布里尔拉比告诉我们，圣人告诉我们，《托拉》告诉我们，圣者赐予埃及人十场瘟疫，是为了告诉我们，他给人们很多悔改的机会，只有这样，如果他们仍然继续犯罪，他才会以死亡惩罚他们。
I went downstairs to my bedroom, took four steps without my yarmulke on, touched myself, flicked the lights off and on and fell asleep.
我下楼来到卧室，没戴圆顶小帽，走了四步，摸了摸自己，关了灯又开，然后睡着了。
Writer Shalom Auslander.
作家沙洛姆·奥斯兰德。
This story appears in his memoir, Foreskin's Lament.
这个故事出现在他的回忆录《包皮的哀歌》中。
Well, our program was produced today by Lisa Pollak, Jane Feltes and myself with Alex Blumberg, Diane Cook, Wendy Dorr, and Sarah Koenig.
今天我们的节目由 Lisa Pollak、Jane Feltes 和我以及 Alex Blumberg、Diane Cook、Wendy Dorr 和 Sarah Koenig 制作。
Our senior producer is Julie Snyder.
我们的高级制片人是朱莉·斯奈德。
Seth Lind is our production manager.
塞思·林德 (Seth Lind) 是我们的生产经理。
Adrianne Mathiowetz runs our website.
阿德琳娜·马修韦茨 (Adrianne Mathiowetz) 负责运营我们的网站。
Production help from Todd Bachmann, Kevin Clarke, Thea Chaloner, and Andy Dixon.
托德·巴赫曼、凯文·克拉克、西娅·查洛纳和安迪·迪克森为制作提供了帮助。
Special thanks today to reporter Helen Thorpe in Denver who interviewed Marisela and Yadira for the opening of today's program.
今天特别感谢丹佛记者海伦·索普为今天节目的开场采访了玛丽塞拉和亚迪拉。
In the year since we first broadcast this show, they have graduated from college and found jobs, though their legal status in this country has not changed.
从我们第一次播出这个节目的那一年起，他们已经大学毕业并找到了工作，尽管他们在这个国家的法律地位没有改变。
Our website, www.thisamericanlife.org.
我们的网站：www.thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
WBEZ management oversight for our show by Mr. Torey Malatia.
Torey Malatia 先生对我们的演出进行 WBEZ 管理监督。
Part of the job of management oversight is actually coming to our program's dress rehearsal.
管理监督的一部分工作实际上是在我们项目的彩排中进行的。
What you did in dress rehearsal-- first of all, I don't get the blah, blah, blahs.
你在彩排中所做的——首先，我不明白那些废话、废话、废话。
Is that-- I'm not getting that.
那是——我不明白。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
PRI, Public Radio International.
PRI，国际公共广播电台。
international
国际
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。