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Prologue Ira Glass A couple weeks ago I got into an argument with a 13 year old about algebra.
序言 Ira Glass 几周前,我和一个 13 岁的孩子就代数问题发生了争执。
"Why should I bother learning algebra?" He asked me.
“我为什么要费力学习代数?”他问我。
"Have you ever used algebra as an adult?" You know, every possible thing you could say as an adult in this situation, you've heard adults say.
“你成年后用过代数吗?”你知道,在这种情况下,作为一个成年人你可以说的每一句话,你都听过成年人说过。
And you know how stupid they sound.
你知道他们听起来有多么愚蠢。
When you're a kid, you're expected to be a renaissance man.
当你还是个孩子的时候,你就被期望成为一个文艺复兴时期的人。
You're supposed to be interested in math and science.
你应该对数学和科学感兴趣。
You're supposed to read literature, you write poetry, maybe you play an instrument.
你应该读文学,写诗,也许你会演奏乐器。
You're athletic, you play sports, you learn a foreign language.
你很运动,你参加运动,你学习外语。
And you're supposed to be enthusiastic.
而且你应该充满热情。
You're actually graded on effort.
你实际上是根据努力程度来评分的。
You get a grade for the effort, not just for the work.
你得到的分数是因为你的努力,而不仅仅是工作。
And somehow, in America especially I think, this idea that you're supposed to put your heart into everything.
不知怎的,我认为,尤其是在美国,你应该全心全意地投入到一切事情中。
Any test that you're given, you're supposed to show a can do spirit.
无论你接受什么测试,你都应该表现出一种能做到的精神。
You're supposed to show enthusiasm no matter what the task.
无论任务是什么,你都应该表现出热情。
It's been transferred to all sorts of things in adult life where it really, probably doesn't belong.
它已经被转移到成人生活中的各种各样的事情上,而这些事情实际上可能不属于它。
Kenneth for example got a job as a greeter at a create your own stir-fry chain restaurant.
例如,肯尼斯在一家自己创建的炒菜连锁餐厅找到了一份迎宾员的工作。
As a host, I just stayed at the door, and I greeted people as they came in, and the manager is supposed to seat them.
作为主人,我只是呆在门口,当人们进来时我会打招呼,经理应该给他们安排座位。
Say someone walks in the door.
假设有人走进门。
I'm like, Hi, how are you doing?
我说,嗨,你好吗?
And they'd say hello.
他们会打招呼。
And then I'd say, And they'd say two.
然后我会说,他们会说两个。
Then I would turn to the person standing next to me and say, two people for dinner.
然后我会转向站在我旁边的人说,两个人吃饭。
So I think I could do it very, very well.
所以我认为我可以做得非常非常好。
Hi, how many?
你好,有多少?
Three?
三?
All right, she'll be right back over to seat you.
好的,她马上回来给你安排座位。
And that was it.
就是这样。
I mean pretty much a five year old could handle that.
我的意思是一个五岁的孩子几乎可以处理这个问题。
Say hi to people and repeat the number that they say to you.
向人们打招呼并重复他们对你说的号码。
So the owner always had a problem because he said I wasn't enthusiastic enough in my job.
所以老板总是有一个问题,因为他说我对工作不够热情。
I needed to smile wider.
我需要笑得更灿烂。
And his exact words were I had no sense of urgency.
他的原话是我没有紧迫感。
And I didn't realize what was so urgent about getting people to sit down and have stir-fry that they make themselves.
我没有意识到让人们坐下来吃他们自己做的炒菜有什么那么紧迫。
Every time that he would run the floor, which he was not very good at, you could really see how people would get scared when they walked in the door.
每次他在场上跑动,虽然他不太擅长,但你真的可以看到人们走进门时会感到多么害怕。
As soon as the people would come, he would jump in front of me, literally jump in front of me and go, hi, how are you doing?
人们一来,他就会跳到我面前,真的跳到我面前,然后说,嗨,你好吗?
And then every now and then customers, as they were going to the table would even look back at me and shoot me a glance like, what's up with dude?
然后,时不时地,顾客在走向餐桌时甚至会回头看我一眼,好像在问,哥们儿怎么了?
Is everything OK?
一切都好吗?
And then he would always turn around and be like, see that's how you're supposed to do it.
然后他总是会转过身来,说,看看你应该怎么做。
And I used to just shrug my shoulders at him, like, yeah, don't worry about it.
我过去常常对他耸耸肩,说,是的,别担心。
Coming from me it woulnd't have been genuine.
如果出自我之手,那肯定不是真的。
I don't really want to be giving anybody food.
我真的不想给任何人食物。
But I make money doing it.
但我这样做是赚钱的。
And I want to have a phone, and light and water.
我想要一部电话、电灯和水。
So that's why I do it.
这就是我这样做的原因。
But it's not something that I really love or care about.
但这不是我真正喜欢或关心的事情。
Going through the motions has a bad name in our culture, phoning it in, walking through it, putting on.
在我们的文化中,走过场的做法并不好听,比如打电话、走过场、装模作样。
But there are so many situations where that is the only path of dignity.
但在很多情况下,这是维护尊严的唯一途径。
Today on our radio program, three stories of people deciding whether to take that path.
今天在我们的广播节目中,讲述了人们决定是否走这条路的三个故事。
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life , distributed by Public Radio International.
来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》,由国际公共广播电台发行。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Act One of our show today, Farm Eye for the Farm Guy.
我们今天的节目第一幕,农场小伙的农场之眼。
In that act, a Pennsylvania farmer needs somebody to throw his heart and soul into his vegetable patch.
在这一行动中,宾夕法尼亚州的一位农民需要有人把他的心和灵魂投入到他的菜地中。
And we step in to help.
我们会介入提供帮助。
Act Two, Diary of a Long Shot, a candidate in this fall's elections keeps an amazingly frank audio diary in which he says a few things that you wonder if politicians ever actually feel.
第二幕,远景日记,今年秋天选举的一位候选人保留了一本令人惊讶的坦率的音频日记,他在日记中说了一些你想知道政客们是否真正感受到的事情。
And puts everything he has on the line for an unlikely cause.
为了一个不太可能的原因,他将自己拥有的一切都置于危险之中。
Act Three, Contrails of My Tears.
第三幕,我的泪痕。
In that act, we believe we have discovered a human phenomenon never before documented involving airplanes and Reese Witherspoon.
在这一行动中,我们相信我们发现了一种以前从未有过涉及飞机和瑞茜·威瑟斯彭的人类现象。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Farm Eye for a Farm Guy.
第一幕,农夫的农场之眼。
Things aren't going so well on Hilary's farm.
希拉里的农场事情进展得不太顺利。
He bought 75 acres in Western Pennsylvania five years ago, put all his money into it, moved from the city, had a dream.
五年前,他在宾夕法尼亚州西部买了 75 英亩土地,投入了所有的钱,离开了城市,怀揣着一个梦想。
To grow his own food, make little money, never wear a tie again.
自己种粮食,赚点小钱,再也不打领带。
In five years, he has not only not turned a profit, he's not even close.
五年来,他不仅没有盈利,甚至还差得很远。
His back hurts all the time.
他的背总是疼。
He did something to his thumb.
他对拇指做了什么。
He gets headaches from all the muscle strains.
他因肌肉拉伤而感到头痛。
His best customer is his chiropractor.
他最好的顾客是他的脊椎按摩师。
And he's thinking of quitting.
他正在考虑退出。
I vacillate between wanting to give it up and wanting to continue.
我在想要放弃和想要继续之间犹豫不决。
And even sometimes while I'm out there working I'm like, this is so great.
甚至有时当我在外面工作时我也会想,这太棒了。
I get to watch the sky and see the whether.
我可以仰望天空,看看是否存在。
And then I work for a few hours at it and see how much more I have to do.
然后我花几个小时研究它,看看我还需要做多少事情。
And it's like, this is too hard.
这就像,这太难了。
He's a soft spoken kind of guy.
他是一个说话轻声细语的人。
A little shy, wears a big beard.
有点害羞,留着大胡子。
When I press him for details about what's going wrong on the farm, he gets vague.
当我向他追问农场出了什么问题的细节时,他含糊其辞。
Not like somebody trying to hide the facts exactly, more like somebody who hasn't been keeping track of the facts too closely in the first place.
不像有人试图准确隐藏事实,更像是有人一开始就没有太密切地跟踪事实。
Fortunately, his wife Sun Yung is right there and is happy to give particulars, like about the lettuce harvest, which Hilary actually saw as a success.
幸运的是,他的妻子孙勇就在那里,很乐意提供细节,比如生菜的收获,希拉里实际上认为这是成功的。
We worked so hard until after midnight.
我们一直努力工作到午夜过后。
We had harvested at night so it wouldn't get wilted.
我们是在晚上收割的,这样它就不会枯萎。
And we washed it one by one.
然后我们就一件一件地洗了。
And we put it in the bag and everything.
我们把它放进包里和所有东西里。
And we had to get up at 7:00 AM to get ready.
我们必须早上 7:00 起床准备。
And we went to the market.
我们去了市场。
And we made like $15.
我们赚了大约 15 美元。
Wasn't it $16?
不是16美元吗?
Ira Glass Wasn't it $16?
Ira Glass 不是 16 美元吗?
Hilary asks.
希拉里问道。
No, and I was thinking I worked so many hours, so hard.
不,我在想我工作了这么多时间,这么努力。
And while everybody's sleeping, I was working.
当大家都在睡觉的时候,我却在工作。
And it was only $15.
而且只要 15 美元。
And the table fee was $7 $8 or something like that.
餐桌费是 7 美元 8 美元之类的。
And I felt really bad.
我感觉很糟糕。
Sun Yung and Hilary are in a whole Green Acres situation with each other.
孙勇和希拉里处于一种完全绿田的状态。
He wants the country.
他想要国家。
She's trained as a clothing designer, sells her work in a boutique on Madison Avenue in New York City.
她接受过服装设计师培训,在纽约市麦迪逊大道的一家精品店出售她的作品。
She's applying for fashion jobs in cities around the country.
她正在全国各地的城市申请时尚工作。
She helped Hilary grow vegetables for two years, but then she hurt her back so badly bending over that she was stuck in bed for a month.
她帮希拉里种了两年蔬菜,但后来弯腰时背部严重受伤,在床上躺了一个月。
And that was it for her.
对她来说就是这样。
Farming was never her dream anyway.
无论如何,务农从来都不是她的梦想。
She grew up in Seoul, South Korea, which she describes as being like Manhattan, but bigger.
她在韩国首尔长大,她形容那里就像曼哈顿,但更大。
When she imagined what their farming homesteading life would be like, she remembered this TV show that was popular back in Korea when she was a little girl.
当她想象他们的农耕宅基地生活会是什么样子时,她想起了小时候在韩国流行的这部电视剧。
I was picturing Little House On The Prairie , but that was no way.
我正在想象草原上的小屋,但那是不可能的。
And so when you moved in, was there indoor plumbing?
那么当你搬进来的时候,室内有管道吗?
Was there electricity?
有电吗?
Electricity was there.
那里有电。
And plumbing was there.
管道就在那里。
But one winter our kitchen plumbing was frozen and there was no water for a while.
但有一年冬天,我们厨房的水管结冰了,有一段时间没水了。
And he fixed it.
他修复了它。
And after that the water smelled like really [BLEEP].
之后水闻起来真的很[BLEEP]。
And it still smells not good.
而且味道还是不太好闻。
It's more than a year now.
现在已经一年多了。
We have hot water, but cold water smells really bad, like really.
我们有热水,但冷水闻起来真的很难闻。
It's not that bad, but it is-- all right, it's a little bad.
情况并没有那么糟糕,但是——好吧,有点糟糕。
We're standing in the unkempt front yard by their house, which I would describe as midway between messy and squalid.
我们站在他们家旁边杂乱无章的前院,我将其描述为介于凌乱和肮脏之间。
Half the windows are boarded up.
一半的窗户都用木板封住了。
Shingles are falling down.
带状疱疹正在掉落。
It's so badly heated that during the winter, the cat bowl of water in the kitchen has frozen.
天气太热了,冬天厨房里的猫碗水都结冰了。
And they're the kind of back-to-the-landers who not only believe in conserving the Earth's resources and composting, but in the bathroom there's a note telling you not to use the toilet but to use a big, plastic bucket with sawdust that sits there neatly across from it as a replacement.
他们是那种回到着陆器的人,不仅相信节约地球资源和堆肥,而且在浴室里贴了一张纸条,告诉你不要使用厕所,而是使用一个装满木屑的大塑料桶,整齐地放在厕所对面作为替代品。
Sun Yung says this is not how a person should farm.
孙勇说,这不是一个人应该种田的方式。
But he's not a real morning person.
但他并不是一个真正早起的人。
So he can't do anything in the morning.
所以早上他什么也做不了。
So he can start around noon.
所以他可以在中午左右开始。
Sometimes he would just stay up until 3:00 AM, 4:00 AM.
有时他会熬夜到凌晨 3:00、4:00。
He's doing his photography work on the computer.
他正在电脑上进行摄影工作。
I don't know about the stying up until 4:00.
直到 4:00 我才知道。
I've only done that a few times.
我只这样做过几次。
But yeah, in the mornings I need to warm up before I can start doing a lot of activity I'd say.
但是,是的,早上我需要先热身,然后才能开始做很多我想说的活动。
But then some people will work from 7:00 to 5:00 or 6:00 or whatever.
但有些人会从 7:00 工作到 5:00 或 6:00 或其他时间。
And then they'll have quiet time in the evening.
然后他们就会在晚上享受安静的时光。
But I just have my quiet time in the morning is how I figure it, anyway.
但无论如何,我只是在早上享受安静的时间,这是我的想法。
We heard about Hilary from somebody who met him at a conference on sustainable farming.
我们从一位在可持续农业会议上认识希拉里的人那里听说了他。
Hilary was there getting tips, going to seminars.
希拉里在那里获取建议,参加研讨会。
He's at a point now where his savings are running down and he's thinking that he either has to make a big change in how he farms or get out.
现在,他的积蓄正在耗尽,他认为要么必须对耕作方式做出重大改变,要么离开。
And hearing about his situation, we thought you know what this guy needs is a makeover.
听到他的情况,我们想你知道这个人需要的是改头换面。
Like on "Queer Eye For the Straight Guy" or "Trading Spaces" or "The Swan" Or "Extreme Makeover" or "Extreme Makeover Home Edition." He needs a makeover, a farming makeover.
就像“粉雄救兵”或“交易空间”或“天鹅”或“极端改头换面”或“极端改头换面家庭版”。他需要改造,农业改造。
Here, we thought, are two areas where America excels.
我们认为,美国在这两个领域表现出色。
Two areas where America can compete with any nation on Earth, agriculture and makeover programs.
美国可以与地球上任何国家竞争的两个领域是农业和改造计划。
And we at This American Life are proud to be the ones to bring these two great traditions together.
我们《This American Life》很自豪能够将这两个伟大的传统结合在一起。
We would bring in an expert for a farm makeover.
我们会请一位专家来改造农场。
Ira, nice to meet you.
艾拉,很高兴认识你。
Hilary Hoffman Hi, I'm Hilary Hoffman.
希拉里·霍夫曼 嗨,我是希拉里·霍夫曼。
Hi Hilary.
嗨希拉里。
How are you?
你好吗?
Ira Glass The farm expert we brought in for the makeover is George DeVault, a wiry, sunburned man in a farmer's cap and aviator glasses.
艾拉·格拉斯(Ira Glass) 我们请来进行改造的农场专家是乔治·德瓦特(George DeVault),他身材瘦长,晒伤了,戴着农夫帽,戴着飞行员眼镜。
I want see everything.
我想看到一切。
Ira Glass You want to see everything?
Ira Glass 你想看看一切吗?
All the machinery, all the buildings.
所有的机器,所有的建筑物。
Kick the tires.
踢轮胎。
I'm serious.
我是认真的。
So what do you hope to get from George today?
那么今天你希望从乔治那里得到什么?
Well if had some secret plant that was easy to grow and easy to harvest.
如果有一些易于种植和收获的秘密植物就好了。
And everybody wanted it.
每个人都想要它。
And here's how you do it without having to bend down all the time.
以下是您无需一直弯腰即可做到这一点的方法。
That would work.
那行得通。
Or maybe he'll say, if you don't think you can do this kind of hard work then you better find something else to do.
或者他可能会说,如果你认为自己做不到这种艰苦的工作,那么你最好找点别的事做。
Sun Yung is nodding.
孙勇点头。
Do you want George to say something to talk him out of farming today?
你想让乔治今天说点什么劝他放弃务农吗?
We'll of course, yeah, yeah.
我们当然会,是啊,是啊。
Hilary Hoffman So the truth comes out.
希拉里霍夫曼真相大白了。
She wants me to quit.
她要我辞职。
George owns a farm in southeastern Pennsylvania that grows organic vegetables and flowers.
乔治在宾夕法尼亚州东南部拥有一个农场,种植有机蔬菜和花卉。
He's also a writer and editor at Rodale Press.
他还是罗代尔出版社的作家和编辑。
He's put out a half dozen books and tons of articles about this kind of organic farming.
他出版了六本关于这种有机农业的书籍和大量文章。
He gives lots of tours of his own farm to people who are thinking about getting into agriculture.
他经常带领那些想从事农业的人参观他自己的农场。
Hilary shows him around.
希拉里带他四处参观。
Here's some grapevines.
这里有一些葡萄藤。
It's all a very small farm, very small.
这都是一个非常小的农场,非常小。
The first year, I managed to grow a lot of stuff.
第一年,我种了很多东西。
The second year, the deer found it and just totally ate everything.
第二年,鹿发现了它,然后把所有东西都吃掉了。
Vegetables mostly?
主要是蔬菜吗?
Hilary Hoffman Even my cover crops just were all gone.
希拉里·霍夫曼 (Hilary Hoffman) 连我的覆盖作物都消失了。
They did that to my potatoes last year, about a quarter acre of potatoes we did not have fenced.
去年他们对我的土豆做了这样的事,大约四分之一英亩的土豆我们没有用栅栏围起来。
Ate them right off of the ground.
直接把它们从地上吃掉。
I couldn't believe it.
我简直不敢相信。
This is pretty much George's technique with Hilary.
这几乎就是乔治对待希拉里的技巧。
No matter what kind of calamity Hilary describes, George reassures him that it's happened to him too and lots of other farmers besides.
无论希拉里描述什么样的灾难,乔治都会向他保证,这也发生在他身上,还有很多其他农民。
He looks on the bright side.
他看到了光明的一面。
Standing in front of a strawberry patch infested with weeds, weeds are standing over a foot high in every direction.
站在一片杂草丛生的草莓地前,四面八方的杂草都有一英尺多高。
It's bad enough even I can tell it's bad.
这已经够糟糕了,连我都知道这很糟糕。
George declares--
乔治宣布——
I mean you can see the strawberries.
我的意思是你可以看到草莓。
It's not hopeless.
这并非毫无希望。
In front of a patch of vegetables that he confides later he found surprisingly small, George proclaims--
乔治在一片蔬菜面前宣称,后来他发现这片蔬菜小得惊人——
I'm seeing some very nice, healthy happy potato plants about to blossom.
我看到一些非常漂亮、健康、快乐的马铃薯植物即将开花。
When he spots a broken down structure the size of a small shed, white, wooden window frames for walls and ceiling, concrete floor, George is all can-do American optimism.
当乔治看到一个小棚子大小的破旧结构、墙壁和天花板的白色木制窗框、混凝土地板时,乔治充满了美国式的乐观主义。
Hilary is Soviet Russia circa 1973, the Brezhnev era.
希拉里是 1973 年左右的苏维埃俄罗斯,即勃列日涅夫时代。
I see a greenhouse here.
我在这里看到一个温室。
Hilary Hoffman Do you?
希拉里·霍夫曼 你愿意吗?
Yeah but there's no water.
是的,但是没有水。
George Devault Well, that's why plastic pipe was invented.
George Devault 嗯,这就是发明塑料管的原因。
You have a well somewhere.
你在某个地方有一口井。
Well with the roof on here and the bigger roof on the big barn over here, you could collect an awful lot of rain water.
好吧,这里有屋顶,这里的大谷仓有更大的屋顶,你可以收集大量的雨水。
OK.
好的。
Ira Glass Geoge offered lots of advice that Hilary had no interest in.
艾拉·格拉斯·乔治提出了很多希拉里不感兴趣的建议。
To fix the greenhouse of course so he'd have a place to start his seedlings.
当然是修好温室,这样他就有地方开始种苗了。
To stop mulching in this labor-intensive way that Hilary had learned back as a gardener, way too time consuming for fields of crops, George said.
乔治说,要停止以希拉里作为园丁时学到的这种劳动密集型方式进行覆盖,这对于农作物田来说太耗时了。
To build something called a hoop house, where Hilary could grow more months of the year.
建造一个叫做“箍屋”的东西,希拉里一年中可以在那里种植更多个月。
Hilary needed to triple his production just to start to become economically viable, George said.
乔治说,希拉里需要将产量增加两倍才能开始在经济上可行。
And George suggested that he trade his 68 horsepower tractor in for something smaller, that he'd use the extra money for things that the farm needed more urgently.
乔治建议他将 68 马力的拖拉机换成更小的拖拉机,然后用多余的钱购买农场更迫切需要的东西。
And George thought that Hilary might fix up the 100 year old barn.
乔治认为希拉里可能会修缮这座有 100 年历史的谷仓。
OK, so?
好吧,那么?
Hilary Hoffman I just haven't cleaned it up yet.
希拉里·霍夫曼 我只是还没清理干净。
You said it.
你说过了。
I didn't.
我没有。
Get your butt in gear.
启动你的屁股。
I think so.
我想是的。
George Devault You've been here, what, five years now?
乔治·德沃特:你来这里已经五年了?
Are you are you happy with your progress?
您对自己的进步感到满意吗?
George, there was something that Hilary's wife was talking about it earlier.
乔治,希拉里的妻子早些时候谈论过一些事情。
She was saying that he gets up too late in the day to be a farmer.
她说他白天起得太晚,不适合当农民。
Does it matter what time you get up?
你几点起床有关系吗?
Yeah it does.
是的,确实如此。
Sure it matters what time you get up.
当然,你什么时候起床很重要。
What time do you get up farmer?
农民你几点起床?
What?
什么?
Hilary Hoffman But then I work till dark.
希拉里·霍夫曼 但后来我工作到天黑。
I mean I'm out here doing that.
我的意思是我来这里就是这么做的。
Don't you come in at 7:00, 8:00 and take a couple hours to relax?
您不在 7:00、8:00 进来,花几个小时放松一下吗?
Well some days you can't.
好吧,有些日子你不能。
Hilary Hoffman Well that's true.
希拉里·霍夫曼:确实如此。
You might as well forget the greenhouses then because it can't get up and ventilate it before the sun gets hot, you're going to cook everything.
你最好忘记温室,因为在太阳变热之前它无法起来通风,你会把所有的东西都煮掉。
Oh OK, all right.
哦,好吧,好吧。
Hilary Hoffman Well I guess there's some truth-- I'm just not a morning person.
希拉里·霍夫曼(Hilary Hoffman):嗯,我想这是有道理的——我只是不是一个早起的人。
I have to exercise before I can start working and do anything.
在开始工作和做任何事情之前我必须锻炼身体。
I have two herniated discs from many years ago.
我有两个多年前的椎间盘突出。
Ouch.
哎哟。
Hilary Hoffman But it still affects me.
希拉里霍夫曼但这仍然影响着我。
George explains that some tasks you just have to do in the cool morning hours.
乔治解释说,有些任务你只需要在凉爽的早晨完成。
If you pick delicate produce in the middle of the afternoon under the sun, it'll go limp the minute you pick it.
如果你在下午阳光下采摘精致的农产品,那么它在你采摘的那一刻就会变软。
It'll be junk.
这将是垃圾。
We sit down on chairs under a tree in front of the house.
我们坐在屋前一棵树下的椅子上。
George has a friend who tried what Hilary is trying, left a regular job to take up farming.
乔治的一个朋友尝试了希拉里正在尝试的事情,辞去了固定工作,开始务农。
Tried to make a go of it.
尝试着去做一件事。
Said this guy totally put his heart into it, was working his crops all the time, sun up till way past sundown.
说这个家伙全心全意地投入其中,一直在耕种庄稼,从日出到日落。
I mean there suddenly ceased to be a family life.
我的意思是,家庭生活突然消失了。
He tried to get his two kids to help him out there is as much as they could.
他试图让他的两个孩子尽可能地帮助他。
They were 9 and 11.
他们分别是 9 岁和 11 岁。
And there were limits to how much they could or would or should do.
他们能够、愿意或应该做的事情也是有限的。
And he sunk a ton of money into it and basically lost it all.
他投入了大量资金,但基本上全部赔光了。
He was producing a lot of stuff.
他生产了很多东西。
His crop mix could have been better, more diverse.
他的作物组合本来可以更好、更多样化。
He wasn't charging enough for things, didn't have maybe enough customers to make it work.
他的收费不够高,可能也没有足够的客户来让它发挥作用。
Production and weather threw some curves at him.
生产和天气给他带来了一些困难。
It was a lot of things combined.
这是很多事情的结合。
I mean when you look at the numbers involved in agriculture today, it is really grim what's going on.
我的意思是,当你看看今天农业所涉及的数字时,你会发现正在发生的事情确实很严峻。
Say there are 60,000 farms in the state.
假设该州有 60,000 个农场。
At least 30,000 of them have annual sales of less than $5,000.
其中至少有 30,000 家的年销售额低于 5,000 美元。
Not just net but gross.
不仅是净值,而且是总值。
Less than $5,000 in sales a year.
年销售额不到 5,000 美元。
Yet that's half the farms in the state.
但这只是该州一半的农场。
The numbers are grim.
数字很严峻。
Don't feel bad.
别难过。
We feel like I drove out here and rained on your parade.
我们感觉就像我开车来到这里,给你们的游行下了雨。
No, I wasn't having a parade.
不,我没有参加游行。
George Devault Oh, OK.
乔治·德沃特 哦,好的。
I had this great bit hot air balloon.
我有一个很棒的热气球。
I was hoping you would fill it up and make it rise.
我希望你能把它填满并让它升起来。
In the end, this is what Hilary's up against.
最终,这就是希拉里所面临的。
One of the open secrets about farming in this country is just how few farmers actually make their full livings from farming.
这个国家农业的公开秘密之一是,真正靠农业谋生的农民很少。
In Pennsylvania, it's only 8,000 out of 60,000 farms.
在宾夕法尼亚州,60,000 个农场中只有 8,000 个是这样的。
Nearly half the farmers in the state say their primary occupation is something besides framing.
该州近一半的农民表示,他们的主要职业不是框架。
And that's true of the country as a whole.
整个国家也是如此。
Out of 2 million farms in America, 1.5 million lost money in 2002, the most recent year we have agricultural census data for.
2002 年,即我们掌握农业普查数据的最近一年,美国 200 万个农场中,有 150 万个出现了亏损。
If Hilary truly buckled down, tripled production next year, did everything right, kept expanding production, in a few years, George says, he might expect total profits of $10,000 to $15,000 a year.
乔治说,如果希拉里真的全力以赴,明年产量增加两倍,一切都做对,继续扩大产量,几年后,他可能预计每年的总利润将达到 10,000 至 15,000 美元。
Which Hilary says would be enough.
希拉里说这就足够了。
They're living pretty cheaply, And which would actually put him into an elite in agriculture.
他们的生活相当便宜,这实际上会让他成为农业界的精英。
Only 300,000 of the 2 million farms in America make $15,000 a year or more in net profits.
在美国 200 万个农场中,只有 30 万个每年净利润达到 15,000 美元或以上。
But if he's going to do that, Hilary would have to rethink everything, be working all the time.
但如果他要这么做,希拉里就必须重新考虑一切,一直在工作。
Well that's it.
好吧,就是这样。
I quit.
我不干了。
I quit.
我不干了。
You've convinced me.
你已经说服了我。
Well.
出色地。
I didn't come here to talk you out of the farming but--
我来这里不是为了劝你放弃务农,而是——
I don't think I can physically do that much work to make that much money.
我不认为我可以做那么多的体力工作来赚那么多钱。
Just doesn't seem possible.
只是似乎不可能。
I'm working part time three or four jobs plus farming.
我兼职三四份工作,外加务农。
There are very few farmers I know who do absolutely nothing but farm.
我认识的农民中很少有除了务农以外什么也不做的。
I mean I just wanted to live in the country.
我的意思是我只是想住在乡下。
And I thought I could do it by growing vegetables.
我想我可以通过种植蔬菜来做到这一点。
And I really like it out here in the country.
我真的很喜欢这个国家。
This is what it comes down to for Hilary.
这就是希拉里的归根结底。
He was never dying to be a farmer.
他从来没有渴望成为一名农民。
He just wanted to live closer to nature, live more simply.
他只是想活得更贴近自然,活得更简单。
My dream was to be able to just watch the sky all day.
我的梦想是能够整天看着天空。
But you don't have to actually run a farm as a business to have that.
但你不必真正将农场作为企业来经营才能拥有这一点。
Well you have to make some kind of income.
那么你必须赚取某种收入。
But I think there must be an easier way really.
但我认为确实必须有一种更简单的方法。
I think it is too much work for me.
我认为这对我来说工作量太大了。
And I will probably spend time looking at another way to make a living out in the country.
我可能会花时间寻找另一种在乡下谋生的方式。
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you picked a tough road to hoe pal.
我讨厌传递坏消息,但你选择了一条艰难的道路来锄朋友。
Yeah I know.
是的,我知道。
I knew it was.
我知道是这样。
And I thought I could do it.
我想我能做到。
But now I'm just not so sure.
但现在我不太确定。
Well.
出色地。
Ira Glass Later, when we get George away from the farm, away from Hilary, he's pretty blunt about what he thinks Hillary should do.
艾拉·格拉斯(Ira Glass) 后来,当我们让乔治离开农场、远离希拉里时,他非常直率地表达了他认为希拉里应该做什么。
Sell the place, yeah.
卖掉这个地方,是的。
I mean more than anything he wants to live in the country.
我的意思是他最想住在乡下。
That's great.
那太棒了。
So quit kidding yourself about the idea of making a living from the farm.
所以别再拿靠农场谋生的想法开玩笑了。
He'll still have a garden.
他仍然会有一个花园。
I'm sure of that.
我确信这一点。
At the end of the day, the person who was happiest to watch how everything unfolded, as you might imagine, was Sun Yung.
归根结底,正如你想象的那样,最高兴看到一切如何展开的人是孙勇。
After all, George was saying the same things to Hilary that she's been saying.
毕竟,乔治对希拉里说了同样的话。
I really liked his idea.
我真的很喜欢他的想法。
If you want to do something, commit yourself until you can't do it anymore.
如果你想做一件事,就全力以赴,直到你无法再做为止。
Or sick and tired of it or until you die.
或者厌倦它或者直到你死。
Or don't do it.
或者不做。
But if you want to try, try really hard.
但如果你想尝试,就真的努力尝试。
And I thought that Hilary with the farming was like that.
我认为从事农业的希拉里就是这样。
So I told him that I don't think you really want to be a farmer.
所以我告诉他,我认为你并不是真的想当农民。
I told him maybe thousands of times.
我告诉他也许有几千次了。
Indecision is a powerful force, more powerful than reason sometimes.
犹豫不决是一种强大的力量,有时比理性更强大。
And the next day, despite everything that had been said during George's visit, Hilary had declared himself completely undecided about whether he should quit agriculture.
第二天,尽管乔治访问期间说了很多话,希拉里还是宣布自己完全不确定是否应该退出农业。
He'd actually gotten up early that morning to pick strawberries, thinking that maybe, just maybe, the farm life might still be right for him.
事实上,那天早上他很早就起床去摘草莓,心想也许,只是也许,农场生活可能仍然适合他。
In the months since that day, Sun Yung got a job offer in the Bronx.
从那天起的几个月里,孙勇在布朗克斯找到了一份工作机会。
And she said yes.
她说是的。
She's planning on moving away from the farm in November, which will leave Hilary alone to figure out his next move.
她计划在十一月搬离农场,这将使希拉里独自思考下一步的行动。
Find a job near the farm to support himself, or just leave the farm.
在农场附近找一份工作养活自己,或者干脆离开农场。
Just last week he started shopping around for a camera, which would allow him to get back to the line of work he was in before he moved to the farm in the first place, taking pictures for newspapers.
就在上周,他开始四处寻找一台相机,这样他就可以回到搬到农场之前的工作岗位,为报纸拍照。
Well I don't think anything is going to happen within a year or two, maybe longer.
嗯,我认为一两年内,甚至更长时间内不会发生任何事情。
But eventually, he's going to live with me where my job is.
但最终,他会和我一起住在我工作的地方。
And what do you think's going to happen?
你认为会发生什么?
To the farm?
去农场?
Hilary Hoffman Yes.
希拉里·霍夫曼 是的。
It'll be really nice and fixed up, no air leaks in the winter.
真的很好,修好了,冬天不会漏气。
And warm and spacious, the opposite of what it is now.
而且温暖宽敞,与现在相反。
As for the dream of farming, the one that gets so many city people to buy farms of their own, George took time away from his own pea harvest to visit Hilary and to give advice.
至于农业梦想,正是这个梦想让许多城市人购买了自己的农场,乔治从自己收获豌豆的间隙抽出时间来拜访希拉里并提供建议。
Partly because in some basic, neighborly way, he wants to get the word out that this kind of farming can be done.
部分原因是他想以某种基本的、睦邻友好的方式让大家知道这种农业是可以进行的。
He knows lots of people who are doing it happily.
他认识很多人,他们都在快乐地做这件事。
You just have to be careful not to get too romantic about it.
你只需要小心,不要变得太浪漫。
The dream of farming is like anything else, he says.
他说,农业梦想就像其他任何事情一样。
Like the dream of owning your own business or writing for a living.
就像拥有自己的企业或以写作为生的梦想一样。
Or acting, or making a movie, or getting married.
或者演戏,或者拍电影,或者结婚。
You need the romantic vision to get you started.
你需要浪漫的愿景来开始。
But the reality, it's always more complicated.
但现实,总是更加复杂。
Coming up, in just 11 years he can run for President.
很快,他就可以在短短 11 年内竞选总统了。
You can get in on the ground floor right now.
你现在就可以进入一楼。
Here are the audio diaries of his very first race this fall at age 24.
以下是他今年秋天 24 岁时第一次参加比赛的音频日记。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International, when our program continues.
一分钟后,芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life .
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program of course we choose some theme, bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然,每周我们的节目都会选择一些主题,为您带来有关该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's show, Put Your Heart Into It.
今天的节目,《用心去做》。
We've arrived at Act Two, which is about somebody in the opposite situation of Hilary, the farmer in the first half of our show.
我们已经到了第二幕,这是关于一个与希拉里相反的人,希拉里是我们节目前半部分的农民。
This act is about somebody who is not holding back, not waiting.
这个行为是关于一个不退缩、不等待的人。
He has thrown himself completely into an unlikely and difficult cause.
他完全投入到了一项不太可能且困难的事业中。
Sam Brooks is 24, grew up in Washington, DC and wanted to be a politician.
Sam Brooks 24 岁,在华盛顿特区长大,想成为一名政治家。
And so a year ago, he decided to run for one of the top jobs in the city, a job that usually goes to a much more experienced politician, at large city councilman.
因此,一年前,他决定竞选该市的一个最高职位,这个职位通常由经验丰富的政治家担任,即大型市议员。
These are the city councilmen who don't just represent one neighborhood in the city.
这些市议员不仅仅代表城市的一个社区。
Their constituency is the entire city.
他们的选区是整个城市。
DC is mostly black.
DC大部分是黑色的。
Sam Brooks is white.
萨姆·布鲁克斯是白人。
But he felt sort of outraged at one of the guys serving as at large councilman, a man who had been in the job since Sam was 10, a man named Harold Brazil.
但他对其中一位担任大议员的人感到有点愤怒,这个人从萨姆 10 岁起就一直担任这一职务,名叫哈罗德·巴西 (Harold Brazil)。
Brazil had a reputation for being out of touch.
巴西素来以脱节着称。
The Washington Post called him disengaged and a disappointment.
《华盛顿邮报》称他心不在焉且令人失望。
Washington City Paper called him "Number one in the city for legislative wishy-washyness, non-sequiturs and other buffoonery."
《华盛顿城市报》称他为“该市在立法上的软弱、不合逻辑和其他滑稽行为的头号人物”。
So Sam Brooks entered the race.
于是萨姆·布鲁克斯参加了比赛。
He started walking door to door in every neighborhood in the city, hundreds of miles.
他开始挨家挨户地走遍城市的每个街区,长达数百英里。
His other opponent, besides the incumbent, was Kwame Brown, who was well known partly because his dad was a big civil rights leader in DC.
除了现任总统之外,他的另一个对手是夸梅·布朗(Kwame Brown),他之所以出名,部分原因是他的父亲是华盛顿特区的一位重要的民权领袖。
Sam Brooks kept an audio diary of everything that happened, the fundraising, the ups, the downs.
萨姆·布鲁克斯(Sam Brooks)用音频日记记录了所发生的一切,包括筹款、起起伏伏。
Here it is.
这里是。
It is about 5:15 on Tuesday, January 27.
现在是 1 月 27 日星期二 5 点 15 分左右。
I feel like we've done everything we can to raise money this quarter.
我觉得本季度我们已尽一切努力筹集资金。
We have one more fundraiser on Thursday night.
周四晚上我们还有一场筹款活动。
I think we basically hit our number.
我认为我们基本上达到了我们的目标。
And maybe people will look at our number and say well, it's what you get when you're a rich white kid and you grow up in Georgetown.
也许人们会看着我们的数字并说,好吧,这就是当你是一个在乔治敦长大的富有的白人孩子时你得到的。
I think something like over 85% of my money has come from three zip codes in DC, 20007, 20008 and 20016.
我认为我 85% 以上的钱来自华盛顿特区的三个邮政编码:20007、20008 和 20016。
And for anybody that has been in DC for a while, you know what that is.
对于任何在华盛顿呆过一段时间的人来说,你都知道那是什么。
That's just rich, white.
那就是富有,白人。
There's no way around it.
没有办法解决这个问题。
I mean it just doesn't look good.
我的意思是它看起来不太好。
Our answer I think is OK.
我认为我们的答案是可以的。
When you're a first time candidate and you grew up in one neighborhood, you raise your money from that neighborhood.
当你是第一次候选人并且你在一个社区长大时,你可以从那个社区筹集资金。
If I had grown up in Ivy City Northeast, most of my money would come from there.
如果我在常春藤城东北长大,我的大部分钱都来自那里。
I grew up in Georgetown, so most of my money will come from there.
我在乔治敦长大,所以我的大部分钱都来自那里。
And hopefully that answer flies.
希望这个答案能够成功。
The question for voters this September is going to be real simple.
今年九月选民面临的问题将非常简单。
If you think that this city is going in the right direction, then this room isn't for you.
如果您认为这座城市正在朝着正确的方向发展,那么这个房间不适合您。
And certainly I'm not the candidate for you.
当然我不是你的候选人。
You've got a candidate in Harold Brazil whose campaign slogan "Keep the Momentum Going."
哈罗德·巴西是一位候选人,他的竞选口号是“保持势头”。
I look at this city, and I think most of the people in this room look at this city.
我看着这座城市,我想这个房间里的大多数人都在看着这座城市。
They look at our schools, 13 kids, now 14 kids have been murdered this year.
他们看看我们的学校,有 13 个孩子,今年有 14 个孩子被谋杀。
They look at scandal after scandal in terms of the government wasting taxpayer dollars.
他们从政府浪费纳税人资金的角度来审视一个又一个的丑闻。
we need a fresh start.
我们需要一个新的开始。
And that's what this campaign offers you.
这就是本次活动为您提供的。
So thank you and now keep drinking and keep talking.
所以谢谢你,现在继续喝酒,继续说话。
Thank you.
谢谢。
It is 5:34 on Thursday afternoon.
现在是星期四下午 5 点 34 分。
Woke up today hoping that there'd be a story in the Washington City paper.
今天醒来,希望华盛顿城的报纸上能有一篇报道。
There was.
有。
Said that Sam Brooks had raised an impressive amount of money.
说萨姆·布鲁克斯筹集了一笔令人印象深刻的资金。
And that was exciting.
这很令人兴奋。
But the story was not that.
但故事并非如此。
The story is that council member Jim Graham might run, who's a white, gay member of the council.
故事是,市议会成员吉姆·格雷厄姆可能会参选,他是市议会的一名白人同性恋成员。
And who from Ward 1 might challenge Harold citywide.
来自第一区的人可能会挑战全市的哈罗德。
Jim Graham effectively kills my candidacy if he gets in the race.
如果吉姆·格雷厄姆参加竞选,他实际上就会扼杀我的候选资格。
So this has been certainly the biggest day of the campaign so far.
因此,这无疑是迄今为止该活动最重要的一天。
And the most stressful day of my life.
也是我一生中压力最大的一天。
The problem is that his resume from before being on the council is impressive.
问题是,他在担任理事会成员之前的履历令人印象深刻。
And people really respect him.
人们真的很尊重他。
And I really respect the man.
我真的很尊重这个人。
He's director of Whitman-Walker.
他是《惠特曼·沃克》的导演。
He was a clerk for Jimmy Carter well before that.
在此之前,他是吉米·卡特的职员。
And in between the two, he had just done an incredible amount of things.
而在这两者之间,他刚刚做了很多令人难以置信的事情。
So the questions have been all day are, am I going to stay in the race?
所以一整天的问题都是,我会继续参加比赛吗?
What's my message now?
我现在要传达什么信息?
I mean the message is now just totally different, literally.
我的意思是,现在的信息完全不同了。
Jim Graham gets in the race, this whole message of hard work, doing whatever it takes with a fresh approach to tackle these big issues, all of a sudden that's not the message.
吉姆·格雷厄姆(Jim Graham)参加了竞选,整个信息是努力工作,不惜一切代价以新的方法解决这些重大问题,突然之间,这不是信息了。
Because Jim Graham works hard.
因为吉姆·格雷厄姆工作努力。
It's funny.
很有趣。
You feel like your message is also why you're running.
你觉得你的信息也是你跑步的原因。
So you'd think that with Jim Graham in the race, my message no longer has any real rationale, this message of hard work.
所以你可能会认为,随着吉姆·格雷厄姆参加竞选,我的信息不再有任何真正的理由,即努力工作的信息。
But he's only going to announce an exploratory committee, so there's some question we might be able to bump him out of the race.
但他只会宣布成立一个探索委员会,因此我们是否能够将他赶出竞选存在一些疑问。
That's the hope.
这就是希望。
He knows that if I'm in the race raising money, continuing to get support, it's going to be really tough for him to win.
他知道,如果我参加竞选筹集资金并继续获得支持,他将很难获胜。
Because basically when you're a white member of the council, particularly in Jim's case when you're gay, you basically need all of the white vote behind you.
因为基本上,当你是理事会的白人成员时,特别是在吉姆的情况下,当你是同性恋时,你基本上需要所有白人选票支持你。
You can't have another white candidate in the race and expect to win.
你不可能有另一位白人候选人参加竞选并指望获胜。
And Jim has to know that if I'm in the race continuing to fight, I'm going to get at least 5,000 votes.
吉姆必须知道,如果我在竞选中继续奋斗,我将获得至少 5,000 票。
And so that might just kill Jim and his chances.
所以这可能会扼杀吉姆和他的机会。
So I want to welcome a friend to the stage, someone who's fighting the front lines of youth politics by being a young person, showing our generation does count.
因此,我想欢迎一位朋友登上舞台,他作为一个年轻人,奋战在青年政治的前线,表明我们这一代人确实很重要。
So please a round of applause--
那么请大家鼓掌——
We're at a rally in downtown DC organized by Mobilizing America's Youth.
我们正在参加由动员美国青年组织在华盛顿市中心举办的集会。
Hardly anyone is here.
这里几乎没有人。
And it's pretty much a joke to try to deliver a speech when 15 people are watching.
当有 15 个人在场的时候试图发表演讲简直就是一个笑话。
You know I think for far too long we've pushed away from an idealism that this country and this city would be well served by.
你知道,我认为我们已经远离理想主义太久了,而理想主义将使这个国家和这座城市受益匪浅。
It is 7:36 on Wednesday, February 25.
现在是 2 月 25 日星期三 7:36。
Just a combination of things really led to a rough few days.
种种因素的结合确实导致了这几天的艰难。
Of course the Jim Graham thing continues to hurt.
当然,吉姆·格雷厄姆的事情继续伤害着我们。
And I had an email from somebody that almost dropped out of having a big fundraiser for me because of Jim Graham.
我收到了一封来自某人的电子邮件,他差点因为吉姆·格雷厄姆而退出为我举办的大型筹款活动。
I convinced her to continue to have it.
我说服她继续拥有它。
But I don't get the sense she's even probably going to vote for me.
但我不觉得她甚至可能会投票给我。
And then there's also the fact that this has just been a terrible month for fundraising.
还有一个事实是,这对于筹款来说是糟糕的一个月。
I have raised I think no more than $1,500.
我认为我筹集的资金不会超过 1,500 美元。
So I'll get another $800 from my dad.
所以我会从我爸爸那里再得到800美元。
Get him to max out.
让他发挥到最大。
So that gets us less than $2,500.
这样我们就赚到了不到 2,500 美元。
And so that's disappointing.
这令人失望。
And people will look at this and be disappointed.
人们会看到这一点并感到失望。
And so I'm trying to spin this.
所以我正在尝试扭转这个局面。
But I'm not getting-- people I don't think are liking my spin of the money.
但我认为人们不喜欢我的金钱策略。
And then my Blackberry wasn't working.
然后我的黑莓手机就不能用了。
And I ended up having to buy a new one.
我最终不得不买一个新的。
And then I get home, charge the Blackberry.
然后我回到家,给黑莓充电。
I'm taking it the five feet from the charger to the computer to sync it up and I dropped it and broke it.
我把它从充电器到电脑五英尺处进行同步,然后我把它摔坏了。
And I didn't have insurance on it.
而且我没有保险。
Pretty much felt like I was making a bunch of 24 year old mistakes.
我几乎感觉自己犯了一堆 24 年前的错误。
It's Monday, 11:54.
现在是星期一,上午 11 点 54 分。
And a lot of people have been telling me that Jim Graham could give me a deal to get out of the race.
很多人告诉我吉姆·格雷厄姆可以给我一份退出竞选的协议。
Could either offer to endorse me in a race in Ward 1.
可以提议支持我参加第一选区的一场比赛。
One, assuming he wins and gives up that seat.
一,假设他获胜并放弃那个席位。
Or get me a job or all these things.
或者给我一份工作或者所有这些事情。
But the argument has been made to me that maybe it makes sense to do it.
但有人向我提出这样的观点:也许这样做是有意义的。
I had been worried and it's just-- I do it out of self interest.
我一直很担心,但这只是——我这样做是出于自身利益。
And my friend Brian's point is the self interested thing to do is to stay in the race.
我朋友布莱恩的观点是,自私自利的事情就是留在比赛中。
And I'm staying in a race that I'm not likely to win.
我将继续参加一场我不太可能获胜的比赛。
Very unlikely to win.
获胜的可能性很小。
Very, very unlikely to win.
非常非常不可能获胜。
And if I take the deal, I have a chance to win in Ward 1.
如果我接受这笔交易,我就有机会在第一区获胜。
The self serving thing is to stay in the race and basically stay in just to self-promote all over the city, which is one way of looking at what I'm doing.
自私的事情就是留在比赛中,基本上只是为了在整个城市自我推销,这是看待我正在做的事情的一种方式。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I don't totally agree with that but it's resonating with me for some reason right now.
我并不完全同意这一点,但由于某种原因,它现在引起了我的共鸣。
You know a guy like Jim Graham has a lifetime of incredible service to the city and to his community.
你知道像吉姆·格雷厄姆这样的人一生为这座城市和他的社区做出了令人难以置信的服务。
I think that's just makes him want to get in the race.
我认为这只是让他想参加比赛。
He just feels like he'd be better, and more qualified and more deserving.
他只是觉得自己会变得更好、更有资格、更值得。
And it's hard to argue with that to be honest.
说实话,很难反驳这一点。
He is more deserving.
他更值得。
That's the honest truth.
这是诚实的事实。
Jim Graham is more deserving.
吉姆·格雷厄姆更值得。
I mean if I'm watching this as a voter, watching another 24 year old with the same qualifications, watching this race if it happened it Philadelphia, I'd probably vote for John Graham.
我的意思是,如果我作为一名选民观看这一切,观看另一个具有相同资格的 24 岁的人,观看这场比赛(如果它发生在费城),我可能会投票给约翰·格雷厄姆。
I'd probably want Jim Graham to win.
我可能希望吉姆·格雷厄姆获胜。
Or think he should win.
或者认为他应该赢。
God I'd love to stay in the race.
天哪,我很想留在比赛中。
I would love to stay in the race.
我很想留在比赛中。
I just don't know if I'm going to be able to withstand the pressure to get out.
我只是不知道我是否能承受住离开的压力。
And I don't know whether I'm going to have it in my heart to keep it going.
我不知道我是否会在心里坚持下去。
It is 6:32 on Wednesday, May 5.
现在是 5 月 5 日星期三 6:32。
And if it's possible to have more of an emotional roller coaster in the past 24 four hours, then I'd be really surprised.
如果在过去的 24 四小时内有可能出现更多的情绪过山车,那么我会感到非常惊讶。
From WAMU at American University in Washington welcome to the Kojo Nnamdi Show.
来自华盛顿美国大学 WAMU 的欢迎来到 Kojo Nnamdi 秀。
It's the DC Politics Hour.
现在是华盛顿政治时间。
On this edition of the DC Politics Hour, Ward 1 council member Jim Graham will join us to explain why he decided against running for the at large seat on the council that Harold Brazil now occupies.
在本期的华盛顿政治时间中,第一区议会成员吉姆·格雷厄姆将与我们一起解释为什么他决定不竞选哈罗德·巴西目前占据的议会大席位。
Council member Brazil will tell us how he feels about that.
理事会成员巴西将告诉我们他对此有何感受。
How long does it take to say, gleeful, overjoyed, triumphant?
需要多长时间才能说出欣喜若狂、欣喜若狂、得意洋洋?
But Kwame Brown and Sam Brooks will be along to say, wait a minute.
但夸梅·布朗和萨姆·布鲁克斯会说,等一下。
Hold the glee.
保持欢乐。
Forget the joy.
忘记快乐。
There will be no triumph for Harold Brazil in this race.
哈罗德·巴西在这场比赛中不会取得胜利。
Council member Jim Graham joins us in the studio now.
理事会成员吉姆·格雷厄姆现在加入我们的工作室。
He is the council member representing Ward 1.
他是代表第一区的议会成员。
Jim Graham, welcome.
吉姆·格雷厄姆,欢迎。
Thank you very much Kojo.
非常感谢科乔。
Kojo Nnamdi Always a pleasure to see you.
科乔·纳姆迪 很高兴见到你。
Enquiring minds want to know, why Jim, why?
好奇的人想知道,为什么吉姆,为什么?
Well in fact at 10 o'clock on Tuesday night there was no doubt in my mind that I was running.
事实上,周二晚上 10 点,我毫无疑问地在跑步。
We had a press conference scheduled.
我们安排了一场新闻发布会。
We had assembled supporters.
我们聚集了支持者。
We were going.
我们正要去。
And so it took me a little time myself to reorient to the ultimate decision not to run.
因此,我自己也花了一些时间才做出了不参选的最终决定。
I think what it came down to was the fact that it was-- I'm going to use a word I used to use when I was a kid.
我认为归根结底是这样一个事实——我将使用我小时候常用的一个词。
What I was looking at coming down the road was really going to be icky.
我在路上看到的东西真的很恶心。
I mean I represent the most diverse ward in the District of Columbia.
我的意思是我代表哥伦比亚特区最多元化的选区。
And thus I'm especially sensitive to the issues of race and ethnicity.
因此我对种族和民族问题特别敏感。
And in the final analysis when I looked at this, even though I know I had African American support.
归根结底,当我看到这一点时,尽管我知道我得到了非裔美国人的支持。
I have no crystal ball to say I would definitely win.
我没有水晶球可以说我一定会赢。
I thought I would win.
我以为我会赢。
And I know I had African American votes.
我知道我有非裔美国人选票。
But it would have been a divisive campaign.
但这将是一场分裂的竞选活动。
And I think the incumbent would have been very likely to have made hay on that issue.
我认为现任总统很可能会在这个问题上大做文章。
This might be the day it turned around.
这或许就是事情发生逆转的那一天。
I mean it's incredible.
我的意思是这太不可思议了。
This time three nights ago, my campaign was over.
三年前的这个时候,我的竞选活动结束了。
And the only thing I was thinking about was my next job, my next move.
我唯一想到的是我的下一份工作,我的下一步行动。
It wasn't if I was going to drop out, it was when.
问题不在于我是否要退学,而在于何时退学。
And the next day Jim Graham end his bid.
第二天,吉姆·格雷厄姆结束了他的出价。
Right now it's Harold Brazil, Kwame Brown and Sam Brooks are the only candidates in the race.
目前,哈罗德·巴西、夸梅·布朗和萨姆·布鲁克斯是唯一的候选人。
And all of a sudden Sam Brooks's prospects went from about 0% of winning to a legitimate, though certainly what would have to be a historic victory, no longer a total impossibility.
突然之间,萨姆·布鲁克斯的获胜率从大约 0% 变成了合法的,尽管这肯定是一场历史性的胜利,不再是完全不可能的。
Jim Graham, thank you for joining us.
吉姆·格雷厄姆,感谢您加入我们。
But as we said, there are other candidates in the at large city council race.
但正如我们所说,在大型市议会竞选中还有其他候选人。
And one of them is Sam Brooks.
萨姆·布鲁克斯就是其中之一。
He joins us now by telephone.
他现在通过电话加入我们。
Sam Brooks, welcome.
萨姆·布鲁克斯,欢迎。
Another young candidate.
另一位年轻的候选人。
Are you also saying that it's time for a change?
你是否也说,是时候做出改变了?
Time for some youth on the District of Columbia's city council?
是时候让一些年轻人加入哥伦比亚特区市议会了吗?
Is that your main message?
这是你的主要信息吗?
Oh absolutely.
哦,绝对。
I mean I think I hope to bring a new generation of leadership to the city.
我的意思是,我认为我希望为这座城市带来新一代的领导层。
I think it's time and certainly this seat and this incumbent, his time has come and gone I think.
我认为是时候了,当然,这个席位和现任者,我认为他的时代已经过去了。
How do you get past the age question because you're only 23 years old.
你才23岁,如何克服年龄问题?
Some people will say that you're not politically mature.
有人会说你政治不成熟。
And that in fact there needs to be a little bit more growing.
事实上,还需要更多的增长。
Jeanette it's a great question.
珍妮特,这是一个很好的问题。
It's a question I don't shy away from for a second.
我一刻也不回避这个问题。
I'd correct you, I'm 24.
我纠正你一下,我24岁了。
Every year counts here.
在这里,每一年都很重要。
But it's a question I don't shy away from.
但这是一个我不会回避的问题。
I also don't shy away from--
我也不回避——
Today when we went on probably the biggest radio show in the city, which I'd been trying to get on for eight months.
今天我们上的广播节目可能是这座城市最大的广播节目,我已经尝试了八个月了。
My interview, which I thought went terribly because I was so nervous-- I was literally shaking on the telephone-- went pretty well.
我认为我的面试进行得很糟糕,因为我太紧张了——我在电话里简直浑身发抖——但进展得很顺利。
It went well.
进展顺利。
I mean if I was happy with how it sounded.
我的意思是如果我对它的声音感到满意的话。
Race was one of the reasons that Jim Graham said he was dropping out of the race.
种族是吉姆·格雷厄姆表示退出竞选的原因之一。
Is that something that you have considered?
这是你考虑过的吗?
After all, Brazil is African American.
毕竟,巴西是非裔美国人。
You're white.
你是白人。
Yeah, it is something I've considered.
是的,这是我考虑过的事情。
I mean I didn't hear a lot of people talk about that until this week.
我的意思是,直到本周我才听到很多人谈论这个问题。
And certainly as I've walked through every neighborhood in this city in the last 550 miles that I've walked, I don't hear a lot of Washingtonians talk about the color the skin they want this member of the council to be in this seat.
当然,当我在过去 550 英里的路程中走过这座城市的每一个街区时,我没有听到很多华盛顿人谈论他们希望这位议会成员担任这个席位的肤色。
They want somebody that's going to fix their schools.
他们想要有人来修复他们的学校。
And that they want somebody that is committed to the issues that are important to them.
他们希望有人致力于解决对他们来说重要的问题。
And I don't think at the end of the day, it's an issue that going to play very prominently.
我认为最终这不会成为一个非常突出的问题。
And it was the first time literally in eight months that I felt like I belonged in the race.
这是八个月以来我第一次感觉到自己属于比赛。
I mean I really felt like this was an endeavor in which I could be successful.
我的意思是,我真的觉得这是一项我可以成功的努力。
[PARADE SOUNDS] Summer has been going well.
[游行声音] 夏天进展顺利。
I mean since Jim got out of the race it's been a lot of fun to be running for this office.
我的意思是,自从吉姆退出竞选以来,竞选这个职位一直很有趣。
They haven't all been good days, but there have been a lot of good days.
虽然并不都是美好的日子,但美好的日子有很多。
The Fourth of July parade was a lot of fun.
七月四日的游行非常有趣。
Felt like I was a real candidate running for office that I had a chance of winning, which was fun.
感觉我是一名真正的竞选公职的候选人,我有机会获胜,这很有趣。
So what we're doing now is doing a lot of candidate forums at night, trying to get in front of any group of people I can every night.
所以我们现在正在做的是在晚上举办很多候选人论坛,试图每晚都尽可能地在任何一群人面前进行。
Sam Brooks, some people might say, you're just too young and inexperienced and we can't entrust such a responsibility to somebody who is so unseasoned.
萨姆·布鲁克斯,有些人可能会说,你太年轻,缺乏经验,我们不能把这样的责任托付给一个如此缺乏经验的人。
What would your response be?
你的反应是什么?
I'll tell you, for everybody that tells me it's too young, there are nine people that say I am so excited you're running.
我告诉你,虽然每个人都说我太年轻了,但有九个人说我对你的竞选感到非常兴奋。
There are a lot of people who are very excited.
有很多人都非常兴奋。
Councilman Brazil has this idea that the only person qualified for this job is the person that's already there.
巴西议员认为,唯一有资格担任这项工作的人就是已经在那里的人。
I've always had good luck in debates.
我在辩论中一直运气很好。
I've looked forward to debating Harold Brazil since I filed papers to declare my candidacy on August 1 of '03.
自从我于 2003 年 8 月 1 日提交文件宣布我的候选资格以来,我一直期待着与哈罗德·巴西(Harold Brazil)进行辩论。
Mr. Brazil, are you too old to serve on the city council?
巴西先生,您年纪大了,不能在市议会任职吗?
I'm old enough to be on city council and I'm not too old to have the experience and leadership on the council.
我的年龄足以进入市议会,而且我还没有太老,无法在议会中拥有经验和领导能力。
To know the store, to know how it works.
了解这家商店,了解它是如何运作的。
It's at once exciting to do well in these debates and to really feel like I'm winning and like I'm the strongest candidate in the field.
在这些辩论中表现出色,并真正感觉自己获胜并且是该领域最强大的候选人,这立即令人兴奋。
But the same time I get in the car and go home and realize, really only 20 or 30 people that didn't have an idea about where they were going to vote were showing up at the debates.
但在我上车回家的同时,我意识到,实际上只有 20 或 30 名不知道自己要投票给哪里的人出现在辩论中。
During the debates there's what essentially amounts to straw polls of the community groups.
在辩论期间,基本上相当于对社区团体进行的民意调查。
And we're just getting killed in the straw polls.
我们刚刚在民意调查中被杀了。
But they're just not representative of ordinary voters.
但他们只是不能代表普通选民。
They're representative of the campaign's ability to turn out people that will vote for them.
他们代表了竞选团队选出愿意投票给他们的人的能力。
So if you're Harold Brazil, that means busing in literally busloads of senior citizens.
因此,如果您是哈罗德·巴西(Harold Brazil),这意味着公交车上确实载满了老年人。
Kwame Brown uses a network that his dad has developed over what's almost two dozen years of activism in DC.
夸梅·布朗 (Kwame Brown) 使用的网络是他父亲在华盛顿近二十年的活动中建立起来的。
And I'm working on a network that's existed for really a couple of months.
我正在开发一个已经存在了几个月的网络。
And it's really not even a very good network.
而且它实际上甚至不是一个很好的网络。
--with some experience and leadership on the council.
——具有在理事会的一些经验和领导能力。
No time for on the job training baby.
没有时间在工作中训练宝宝。
There's this weird thing that happens that some people are turned off by because when you're 24 years old, you're not supposed to be running for office, particularly citywide.
发生了一件奇怪的事情,有些人对此感到厌烦,因为当你 24 岁的时候,你不应该竞选公职,尤其是在全市范围内。
And so to even have the idea that I could do that is almost bizarrely just really self centered.
因此,甚至有这样的想法:我可以做到这一点,这几乎是奇怪的,只是非常以自我为中心。
To think that I'm so great that I can do it.
想想我是如此伟大,我能做到。
I'm a lot of times almost embarrassed by it just because I always worry it almost does come across as being just really an incredible ego.
很多时候我几乎为此感到尴尬,因为我总是担心它几乎确实给人一种令人难以置信的自我感觉。
And some people I think, or at least I worry that some people are turned off by that.
我认为有些人,或者至少我担心有些人对此感到厌烦。
But having said all that, this is what I really feel in my gut I should be doing.
但话虽如此,这就是我内心真正觉得我应该做的事情。
It's what every instinct I have tells me.
这是我的每一种直觉告诉我的。
It's just a faith that we can be doing better than we're doing.
这只是一种信念,即我们可以做得比现在更好。
And the faith that I could be somebody that could bring about the changes that would let us do better than we're doing.
并相信我可以成为能够带来改变的人,让我们做得比现在更好。
Sam Brooks.
萨姆·布鲁克斯。
His primary election was two weeks ago.
他的初选是两周前进行的。
The results, Kwame Brown came in first with 54% of the vote.
结果,夸梅·布朗以54%的得票率名列第一。
The incumbent Harold Brazil got 32% of the vote.
现任总统哈罗德·巴西获得了32%的选票。
Sam Brooks, 13%.
萨姆·布鲁克斯,13%。
His new ambition, he hopes to get a job working for a city councilman this fall.
他的新目标是,希望今年秋天能找到一份为市议员工作的工作。
His diaries were produced for radio by Teal Krech.
他的日记由 Teal Krech 制作并用于广播。
[MUSIC - "YOU'RE STILL A YOUNG MAN" BY TOWER OF POWER]
[音乐 - TOWER OF POWER 的《你还是个年轻人》]
Act Three, Contrails of my Tears.
第三幕,我的泪痕。
Well, we end our show today with this story of people putting their heart into something whether they want to or not.
好吧,我们今天的节目以这个故事结束,讲述了人们无论愿意与否,全心全意投入某件事。
Brett Martin says it's happened to him.
布雷特·马丁说这发生在他身上。
A couple of years ago, I was on a flight from New York to San Juan, Puerto Rico.
几年前,我乘坐从纽约飞往波多黎各圣胡安的航班。
The movie was Sweet Home Alabama , which you'll remember is about a southern girl played by Reese Witherspoon who moves to New York, joins the fashion industry and then is forced to return home and come to terms with her white trash roots.
这部电影是《阿拉巴马甜蜜之家》,你可能还记得,这部电影讲述了由瑞茜·威瑟斯彭 (Reese Witherspoon) 饰演的南方女孩搬到纽约,加入时尚界,然后被迫返回家乡,接受她的白人垃圾根源的故事。
At the end, there's a wedding scene when the character has to explain to her big city husband to be that she's leaving him for her earthy, down home high school sweetheart.
最后,有一个婚礼场景,角色必须向她大城市的丈夫解释,她要离开他去寻找她朴实的、朴实的家乡高中恋人。
You see, the truth is I gave my heart away a long time ago, my whole heart.
你看,事实是我很久以前就把我的心献出了,我的整个心。
And I never really got it back.
我再也没有真正收回它。
And I don't even know what else to say but I'm sorry, I can't marry you.
我什至不知道还能说什么,但对不起,我不能嫁给你。
Into the stunned silence that follows walks Candice Bergen as the jilted fiance's dragon lady of a mother, who coincidentally also happens to be the mayor of New York.
坎迪斯·伯根 (Candice Bergen) 走进了一片令人震惊的沉默,饰演被抛弃的未婚夫的龙女母亲,而她恰好也是纽约市长。
After a volley of insults, Witherspoon decks Bergen.
在一系列辱骂之后,威瑟斯彭甲板上的卑尔根。
And it is at this moment, somewhere between when Witherspoon drawled, "Nobody talks to my mama like that." And her father, Earl Smooter raised his face to the heavens and declared "Praise the Lord.
就在此时,威瑟斯彭慢吞吞地说:“没有人像这样跟我妈妈说话。”她的父亲斯穆特伯爵仰面朝天宣告:“赞美上帝。
The south has risen again," that something began to happen to me.
南方又崛起了,”那件事开始发生在我身上。
My face got hot and constricted.
我的脸变得又热又紧。
A softball rose in my throat that required a surprisingly loud snore to choke back.
我的喉咙里升起一股垒球般的感觉,需要一声出人意料的鼾声才能把我压回去。
My breathing grew rapid.
我的呼吸变得急促。
In short, I lost it and started to cry.
简而言之,我失去了它并开始哭泣。
I should say that Sweet Home Alabama is not a very good movie.
我应该说《阿拉巴马甜蜜之家》不是一部很好的电影。
It's actually a pretty terrible movie.
这实际上是一部非常糟糕的电影。
I have no particular attachment to Reese Witherspoon, and I'm not from the South.
我对瑞茜·威瑟斯彭没有特别的感情,而且我也不是来自南方。
Also, this was the fourth time I'd seen it.
而且,这是我第四次看到它。
See, my name is Brett.
看,我叫布雷特。
And I cry at movies on airplanes.
我在飞机上看电影时会哭。
Not sometimes, always.
不是有时,是总是。
And not some movies, all movies.
不是某些电影,而是所有电影。
Don't believe me?
不相信我?
Here's a by no means complete list-- Bend It Like Beckham, 101 Dalmatians, What a Girl Wants , Daredevil .
这里有一个绝不完整的列表——《像贝克汉姆一样弯曲》、《101斑点狗》、《女孩想要什么》、《夜魔侠》。
Let me be clear.
让我说清楚。
I'm not afraid of flying.
我不怕坐飞机。
I like flying.
我喜欢飞行。
And I'm not a crier, at least not on land.
我不爱哭,至少在陆地上不爱哭。
Like many men I know, even sensitive ones who know that having a cry can be healthy and good, I passed some invisible line in adolescence when I simply stopped doing it.
就像我认识的许多男人一样,甚至是敏感的人,他们知道哭泣对健康有益,我在青春期就通过了一些看不见的界限,当我停止哭泣时。
There have been many times in life that I probably should have cried, actually tried to cry and wasn't able to.
生活中有很多次我可能应该哭,但实际上我试图哭却哭不出来。
Because, of course, I didn't happen to be a 30,000 feet.
当然,因为我碰巧没有达到 30,000 英尺。
Needless to say, this can be embarrassing.
不用说,这可能会很尴尬。
I once confessed my problem to a friend, and he thought for a long moment before saying, "I'm sorry to hear that.
有一次我向一位朋友坦白了我的问题,他想了很久才说:“听到这个消息我很遗憾。
Does it make your mascara run?" Earlier this year, I was flying from Denver to New York and found myself seated next to a big, burly guy with a cowboy shirt a Western belt buckle.
它会让你的睫毛膏流淌吗?”今年早些时候,我从丹佛飞往纽约,发现自己旁边坐着一个身材魁梧的家伙,他穿着牛仔衬衫,系着西式皮带扣。
Before takeoff we talked about football or college basketball or something.
起飞前我们谈论了橄榄球或大学篮球什么的。
Then they announced the movie.
然后他们宣布了这部电影。
It was Under the Tuscan Sun .
那是《托斯卡纳艳阳下》。
I glanced at my macho new buddy.
我看了一眼我那个充满男子气概的新朋友。
Thought about watching Diane Lane experience love and loss while rediscovering her inner strength at a farmhouse in the Italian countryside.
想到在意大利乡村的一座农舍里看着黛安·莲恩经历爱与失落,同时重新发现她的内在力量。
And read the Sky Mall catalog instead.
请阅读 Sky Mall 目录。
For a long time, I thought I was alone in this.
很长一段时间,我以为我是孤独一人。
Then a few months ago I was at a party and overheard another guest describe how he fell to pieces watching an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond on a flight to California.
几个月前,我在一次聚会上无意中听到另一位客人描述了他在飞往加利福尼亚的航班上观看《人人都爱雷蒙德》的一集时精神崩溃的经历。
I started asking around and found I wasn't completely alone.
我开始四处打听,发现我并不完全孤单。
Greg is 32 year old guy in jeans and a Mets hat who just finished writing a book about college sports.
格雷格是一位 32 岁的男子,穿着牛仔裤,戴着大都会队的帽子,刚刚写完一本关于大学体育的书。
I think it might have been only movie available, Dirty Dancing II : Havana Nights .
我认为这可能是唯一可用的电影,《辣身舞 II:哈瓦那之夜》。
The parents watch them dance.
父母看着他们跳舞。
And they see how special this relationship is.
他们看到这种关系有多么特别。
And at that moment they've gone from angry parents to accepting of Javier.
在那一刻,他们从愤怒的父母转变为接受哈维尔。
I mean I got choked up.
我的意思是我被噎住了。
As my fellow weepers will tell you, even not watching the movie is no guarantee of safety.
正如我的哭泣者同胞们会告诉你的那样,即使不看电影也不能保证安全。
Here's my friend Lindsey.
这是我的朋友林赛。
So I was on a flight, I believe California to New York.
我当时正乘坐航班,从加利福尼亚州飞往纽约。
The specifics don't really stand out.
具体细节并不真正突出。
But I do remember that it required a $2 deposit for earphones or something.
但我记得买耳机什么的需要2美元押金。
And I wasn't ready to pay the $2 or I didn't have $2.
我还没有准备好支付 2 美元,或者我没有 2 美元。
And I decided I'd read my book.
我决定读我的书。
But the movie is playing.
但电影正在上映。
And I see it, and I can't take my eyes off of it.
我看到了它,我的目光无法从它身上移开。
So I end up watching the entire duration of the movie without sound.
所以我最终在没有声音的情况下观看了整个电影。
And at various points throughout it I started welling up, thinking, wow I can't believe I'm crying at a movie.
在整个过程中的不同时刻,我开始流泪,心想,哇,我不敢相信我在看电影时哭了。
I can't hear the sound too.
我也听不到声音。
And it's Freaky Friday .
今天是“怪异星期五”。
Or take Stephen, an avid film festival goer and a professional movie critic who can discourse at length on the differences between early and late period Kurosawa.
或者以斯蒂芬为例,他是一位狂热的电影节观众和专业电影评论家,可以详细讨论黑泽明早期和晚期之间的差异。
His plane hadn't even taken off.
他的飞机还没有起飞。
And they were just running this loop of commercials and in-flight programming and stuff.
他们只是循环播放广告和飞行节目之类的东西。
They hadn't started the movie.
他们还没有开始电影。
It was very early on.
那是很早的时候。
And there was this Amex commercial.
还有这个美国运通广告。
A man traveling through Europe, and I think it was nighttime.
一个人穿越欧洲,我想那是晚上。
I want to say it was raining or something.
我想说下雨什么的。
And this kind of haggard traveler, this businessmen, is walking briskly through the street.
而这样一位憔悴的旅人,这样的商人,正轻快地走在街上。
And then they close up on a wallet, clearly his, that he had left behind unknowingly.
然后他们靠近了一个钱包,显然是他的,是他在不知情的情况下留下的。
And then you see cut to the hotel where he's checking in.
然后你就会看到他正在办理入住的酒店。
And the woman asks for a credit card.
这位女士索要一张信用卡。
Then he pats himself down and realizes he doesn't have it.
然后他拍了拍自己,发现自己没有。
He goes into a state of panic.
他陷入了恐慌状态。
I think that's when I started choking up.
我想那是我开始哽咽的时候。
And then he gets American Express on the phone.
然后他给美国运通打电话。
They explain that it'll be OK.
他们解释说一切都会好起来的。
He'll have a credit card in the morning.
早上他就会拿到一张信用卡。
And then I start to relax a little bit.
然后我开始放松一点。
And then he says, wait I'm not going to be in this city tomorrow.
然后他说,等等,我明天不会去这个城市。
I have to travel.
我必须去旅行。
And then I started choking up again.
然后我又开始哽咽。
And then they said, oh, we'll have it waiting for you in that city.
然后他们说,哦,我们会在那个城市等你。
And then I just started crying after that.
然后我就开始哭了。
I was so happy for him and relieved.
我为他感到高兴并松了口气。
And it was a pretty tense situation there for about 15 or 20 seconds.
那里的局势相当紧张,持续了大约 15 或 20 秒。
This is one of the strange features of our problem.
这是我们问题的奇怪特征之一。
We're less likely to cry at the sad parts of a movie, or financial services industry commercial, than at the happy ones, the parts where everything turns out all right.
我们不太可能为电影或金融服务业广告中的悲伤部分哭泣,而会为快乐的部分(一切都好起来的部分)哭泣。
For instance, in the movie Larger Than Life , which I saw somewhere over the Atlantic a few years ago, it wasn't the moment when Bill Murray is separated from the elephant that his dead, circus clown father has left him as a means to change his life as a down on his luck motivational speaker that had me reaching for the tissues.
例如,几年前我在大西洋的某个地方看过电影《大于生命》,比尔·默里与大象分离的那一刻,他死去的马戏团小丑父亲离开了他,作为改变他生活的手段,作为一个运气不佳的励志演说家,让我伸手去拿纸巾。
It was when they were reunited.
那是他们重逢的时候。
In fact, the first time this happened to me was during one of the happy scenes I'd ever seen.
事实上,这种事第一次发生在我身上是在我见过的一个快乐的场景中。
It was in Big Night , Stanley Tucci's movie about paternal love and Italian food.
这是斯坦利·图齐(Stanley Tucci)关于父爱和意大利美食的电影《Big Night》中的场景。
Midway through the movie, Tucci's character and his brother stage a feast in their New Jersey restaurant.
电影进行到一半时,图奇饰演的角色和他的兄弟在新泽西的餐厅举办了一场盛宴。
And at one point bring out a whole roast pig.
有一次拿出一整只烤猪。
The camera pans across the faces of the guests just amazed by this unbelievable bounty being wheeled into the room.
镜头扫过客人们的脸,他们对被推入房间的令人难以置信的赏金感到惊讶。
And the lump began to rise in my throat.
我喉咙里的肿块开始升起。
I found myself brimming over with joy with the sense that somewhere in the darkness miles below, just like on screen, people were laughing, communing, sharing a meal.
我发现自己充满了喜悦,因为我感觉到在几英里之外的黑暗中的某个地方,就像在屏幕上一样,人们在欢笑、交流、分享食物。
It was impossibly beautiful, and there was just nothing to do but cry.
这是难以置信的美丽,除了哭泣之外别无他法。
I've never heard of anyone crying inappropriately on trains, or on buses, or in boats or cars.
我从来没有听说过有人在火车、公共汽车、轮船或汽车上不当哭泣。
What is it about airplanes?
飞机有什么关系?
I remember getting off the plane thinking I should really actually be embarrassed by the fact that I just cried during Freaky Friday , and I didn't even hear the sound to it.
我记得下飞机时我想我真的应该为自己在《怪异星期五》中哭了而感到尴尬,而且我什至没有听到它的声音。
But I wasn't It's like, what happens in the air, stays in the air, I guess.
但我不是,就像,空气中发生的事情,我猜,会留在空气中。
The people I talked to offered a lot of excuses.
与我交谈的人提供了很多借口。
It's the recirculated air, your eyes are dry, you're often tired and leaving people behind.
这是再循环的空气,你的眼睛会干燥,你经常会感到疲倦并把别人抛在后面。
And of course, there's the obvious conclusion.
当然,有一个显而易见的结论。
We're all scared to death.
我们都吓得要死。
But I've been on hundreds of planes, including quite a few tiny ones.
但我已经乘坐过数百架飞机,其中包括不少小型飞机。
One sea plane that landed on water, and one blimp.
一架降落在水面上的水上飞机和一架飞艇。
I've taken the controls of a plane.
我已经控制了一架飞机。
I've jumped out of a plane.
我从飞机上跳下来了。
I've searched my soul and honest to god, I find no fear of flying.
我已经审视了自己的灵魂,对上帝说实话,我发现我并不害怕飞行。
And all the frequent criers I interviewed felt the same.
我采访过的所有经常哭泣的人都有同样的感觉。
No, something else happens up there in that weird, hanging state between where you're going and where you've left.
不,在你要去的地方和你离开的地方之间那种奇怪的悬空状态中,发生了其他事情。
Where there's no phone calls to take, nowhere to go, nothing to do.
没有电话可接,无处可去,无事可做。
Some strange, overhead compartment of the heart opens up.
心脏上方某个奇怪的隔室打开了。
And critical judgment grabs its flotational seat cushion and follows a lighted pathway to the big yellow slide.
批判性的判断抓住了它的浮动座垫,沿着一条亮着灯的路径到达黄色的大滑梯。
Our friend Greg says this actually makes the ride better.
我们的朋友格雷格说这实际上让旅程变得更好。
Think about it.
想一想。
You're stuck in a seat for five, or 10 or 5 hours.
你被困在座位上五个、十或五个小时。
And how would you rather pass the time?
您更愿意如何打发时间?
Sitting there being a critic?
坐在那里批评?
Or just simply giving in?
或者只是简单地屈服?
I mean I wouldn't have watched Havana Nights in the waiting area, waiting to get the plane on Earth.
我的意思是,我不会在候机区观看《哈瓦那之夜》,等待飞机到达地球。
No, not a chance.
不,没有机会。
But once you step on the plane, I'm open to and accepting the movie.
但一旦踏上飞机,我就对这部电影持开放态度并接受它。
And then once you do that, it's going to leave you jelly.
一旦你这样做了,它就会给你留下果冻。
It turned me into jelly.
它把我变成了果冻。
My own theory goes something like this.
我自己的理论是这样的。
My father once told me that the reason squirrels get hit by cars is that evolutionarily, nothing in their little hard wired brains is capable of understanding a large object hurtling toward them at 70 miles per hour.
我父亲曾经告诉我,松鼠被汽车撞到的原因是,从进化的角度来看,它们小小的硬连线大脑中没有任何东西能够理解以 70 英里每小时的速度冲向它们的大型物体。
Well even though I fly all the time, nothing in my little hard wired brain is capable of understanding, I mean really understanding, stepping onto a metal tube, hanging in space for a while and then stepping off 6,000 miles away in a place with different weather, different stars, different time.
好吧,尽管我一直在飞行,但我那小小的硬连线大脑中没有任何东西能够理解,我的意思是真正理解,踏上金属管,在太空中悬挂一段时间,然后在不同天气、不同星星、不同时间的地方走下 6,000 英里。
It puts you into a kind of sterile, infantalizing, travel purgatory.
它把你带入一种无菌的、幼稚的、旅行的炼狱。
Your'e strapped in, given a blanket, a little sippy cup and tiny silverware.
你会系好安全带,并得到一条毯子、一个小吸管杯和小银器。
Forced to do whatever you're told and borne away at speeds you can't conceive without seeing where you're going.
被迫做你被告知的任何事情,并以你无法想象的速度离开,而不知道你要去哪里。
We all deal with this dislocation differently.
我们处理这种混乱的方式各有不同。
Many times I've thought, why can't I just have air rage?
我很多次想,为什么我不能有空怒呢?
Why can't I be the guy drinking 14 mini-bottles of Amaretto, surfing down the aisle on the dinner cart, groping stewardesses and cursing?
为什么我不能成为那个喝着 14 瓶小瓶苦杏仁酒、坐在餐车的过道上、抚摸空姐并咒骂的人呢?
But then, I do a lot of yelling and screaming down here on the ground, even a little groping.
但后来,我在地上大喊大叫,甚至有点摸索。
What I don't do is cry, not over breakups or reunions or triumphs or deaths.
我不会哭泣,不会因为分手、重逢、胜利或死亡而哭泣。
Or leaving home, or coming back, or any of life's other bumps and transformations.
或者离开家,或者回来,或者生活中的任何其他坎坷和转变。
And maybe that's the key to my air, what, sorrow?
也许这就是我的空气的关键,什么,悲伤?
Maybe I cry the tears I should be shedding on Earth.
也许我应该在地球上流泪。
And all you people who don't cry on airplanes, you're probably the ones I see sobbing on the subway, or on street corners or at funerals.
你们这些在飞机上不会哭泣的人,可能是我在地铁、街角或葬礼上看到哭泣的人。
You probably get it all out at home.
你可能会在家里把一切都搞出来。
Well boo hoo.
嗯,嘘。
Do us all a favor and keep it in the air, you babies.
宝贝们,请帮我们大家一个忙,并将其保留在空中。
Brett Martin in New York.
布雷特·马丁在纽约。
Our program was produced today by Jane Feltes and myself, with Alex Blumberg, Diane Cook, Wendy Dorr, Sarah Koenig, and Lisa.
今天我们的节目由 Jane Feltes 和我本人以及 Alex Blumberg、Diane Cook、Wendy Dorr、Sarah Koenig 和 Lisa 共同制作。
Pollack Our senior producer is Julie Snyder.
波拉克 我们的高级制片人是朱莉·斯奈德。
Elizabeth Meister runs our website.
伊丽莎白·梅斯特 (Elizabeth Meister) 负责运营我们的网站。
Production help from Todd Bachmann and Amy O'Leary.
托德·巴赫曼 (Todd Bachmann) 和艾米·奥利里 (Amy O'Leary) 为制作提供帮助。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight for our program by Torey Malatia, who wants to replace our program with Howard Stern's.
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理部门由 Torey Malatia 对我们的项目进行监督,他希望用 Howard Stern 的项目取代我们的项目。
He just feels like he'd be better, and more qualified, and more deserving.
他只是觉得自己会变得更好、更有资格、更值得。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life .
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作,并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。