26: Father's Day '96 - This American Life
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Act One: How the World Sees Your Father Ira Glass OK, so Dad, so you have the script.
第一幕：世界如何看待你的父亲 艾拉·格拉斯 好吧，爸爸，你有剧本了。
I have the script.
我有剧本。
From WBEZ Chicago it's This American Life , the Father's Day edition.
来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》父亲节版。
Dad, you are such a pro.
爸爸，你真是个专业人士。
Barry Glass I haven't done this in 40 years.
巴里·格拉斯（Barry Glass）：我已经 40 年没有这样做了。
It brings back all kinds of memories.
它带回了各种各样的回忆。
Now you better explain to our radio listeners in what context you actually sat in front of a radio microphone, Dad.
爸爸，现在你最好向我们的广播听众解释一下你实际上是在什么情况下坐在广播麦克风前的。
Well, it was around 1955 or 1956 when I graduated from Maryland.
嗯，那是 1955 年或 1956 年左右，我从马里兰大学毕业。
Instead of getting an honest job, I went to work in radio.
我没有找到一份诚实的工作，而是去了电台工作。
So here's a tape of what you sounded like back in 1956 on the radio.
这是 1956 年收音机里的声音的磁带。
This is three years before I was born, and you're just a kid in this recording.
这是我出生前三年，而你在录音中只是个孩子。
You are 23 years old.
你今年 23 岁。
Do personal problems and worries have you down?
个人问题和忧虑是否让您感到沮丧？
Are you disturbed by business problems, marriage problems, or emotional problems?
您是否因事业问题、婚姻问题或情感问题而困扰？
See Mrs. K., reader and advisor.
参见读者兼顾问 K 女士。
Mrs. K., formerly of Europe, gives you a reading and answers all your questions for just $1 and you'll feel much better.
K. 女士，前欧洲人，只需 1 美元即可为您提供阅读材料并回答您的所有问题，您会感觉好多了。
Dad, how could somebody who's charging $1 for a reading even afford to buy a radio ad?
爸爸，阅读一美元的人怎么可能买得起广播广告呢？
Well, look, she's been to Europe.
嗯，看，她去过欧洲。
She got her education there, so they must have taught her something over there.
她在那里接受教育，所以他们一定在那里教了她一些东西。
Now at some point, you gave up your career-- your burgeoning career in radio-- really before it took off the ground and that was because?
现在在某个时候，你放弃了你的职业生涯——你在广播领域蓬勃发展的职业生涯——真的是在它起飞之前，那是因为吗？
It was nothing important.
这没什么重要的。
It was something called making a living.
这就是所谓的谋生。
Right.
正确的。
And so now you're a certified public accountant living in Baltimore.
现在您是一名居住在巴尔的摩的注册会计师。
Right.
正确的。
Ira Glass Well, let me say this.
艾拉·格拉斯 好吧，让我这么说。
Let me give a little explanation that we try to give each show for new listeners.
让我稍微解释一下我们试图为新听众提供的每个节目。
Each week on our program we document stories of life in these United States using all the tools of radio storytelling, documentaries, monologues, found tapes, anything we can think of.
在我们的节目中，我们每周都会使用广播讲故事、纪录片、独白、找到的磁带以及任何我们能想到的工具来记录美国的生活故事。
And today for Father's Day my co-host will be my own father, Barry Glass, certified public accountant.
今天的父亲节，我的共同主持人是我的父亲巴里·格拉斯 (Barry Glass)，他是一名注册会计师。
I know.
我知道。
This is our little Father's Day adventure together.
这是我们一起度过的父亲节小冒险。
Our program today will have four acts.
我们今天的节目有四幕。
Act One, Sandra Tsing Loh finds out that the world sees her father very differently from the way she sees him.
第一幕，桑德拉·青罗发现世人对她父亲的看法与她对他的看法截然不同。
Act Two, Dad's Music.
第二幕，爸爸的音乐。
We have a story from writer Sherman Alexie.
我们有作家谢尔曼·亚历克西的故事。
Act Three, The Moment Dad Left.
第三幕，爸爸离开的那一刻。
Act Four, Reconciling With Dad, a story from playwright Beau O'Reilly.
第四幕，与爸爸和解，剧作家博·奥莱利的故事。
So Dad, take us into Act One, will you please?
那么爸爸，请带我们进入第一幕，好吗？
Act One, How the World Sees Your Father.
第一幕，世界如何看待你的父亲。
So, Dad, our first story today is from Los Angeles.
所以，爸爸，我们今天的第一个故事来自洛杉矶。
It's from Sandra Tsing Loh as you said at the beginning of the show in the billboard.
正如您在广告牌上节目开始时所说的那样，这是 Sandra Tsing Loh 的作品。
When she was growing up, her father was not a fun dad.
在她的成长过程中，她的父亲并不是一个有趣的父亲。
He himself had been orphaned in Shanghai when he was twelve.
他十二岁时在上海成为孤儿。
He was raised in poverty, and because of that he was just this-- penny pincher doesn't even capture it.
他在贫困中长大，正因为如此，他就是这样——吝啬鬼甚至没有抓住这一点。
He was miserly.
他很吝啬。
They didn't celebrate Christmas.
他们没有庆祝圣诞节。
He never took his children to Disneyland even though it was less than an hour away from their home.
他从来没有带孩子去迪士尼乐园，尽管迪士尼乐园距离他们家不到一个小时。
There were no real vacations.
没有真正的假期。
Sandra tells the story.
桑德拉讲述了这个故事。
Once she bought a book of Charlie Brown comics for $1 at a book fair, and her father threw it across the room furious at how she had wasted money.
有一次，她在书展上花了 1 美元买了一本查理·布朗漫画书，她的父亲对她浪费钱的行为感到愤怒，把它扔到了房间的另一边。
He was really strict.
他真的很严格。
But as Sandra found out recently, not everyone in the world sees her father the way she does.
但正如桑德拉最近发现的那样，并不是世界上每个人都像她一样看待她的父亲。
There's a kind of news that you're never prepared for, and here last week was mine.
有一种消息你永远不会做好准备，上周就是我的消息。
A friend told me that, incredibly, a local grunge band had composed a rock anthem about my dad and was performing it to great response in Malibu area clubs.
一位朋友告诉我，令人难以置信的是，当地的一支垃圾摇滚乐队创作了一首关于我父亲的摇滚歌曲，并在马里布地区的俱乐部表演，引起了巨大反响。
The group in question was called Boy Hits Car and the song, a wailing rock cri de coeur powered by Pearl Jam-like riffs, was in fact called "Mr. Loh." The actual cover of the Boy Hits Car demo tape was a grainily xeroxed photo of a tiny, wizened 76-year-old Chinese man, grinning on a Malibu beach in tattered swim trunks, which was indeed my father.
这个乐队被称为“Boy Hits Car”，这首歌是一首哀号摇滚，由珍珠酱般的连复段驱动，实际上被称为“Mr. Loh”。 《Boy Hits Car》演示磁带的实际封面是一张复印的颗粒状照片，照片上是一位瘦小、干瘪的 76 岁中国男人，穿着破烂的泳裤在马里布海滩上咧着嘴笑，这确实是我的父亲。
I have to admit, however, that the Mr. Loh in the song was not one I was familiar with.
但我不得不承认，歌中的罗先生并不是我所熟悉的。
As seen through the eyes of lifeguard slash singer Craig Rondell, Mr. Loh is a mystical dreamy figure who swims naked among the dolphins.
从救生员斜线歌手克雷格·朗德尔 (Craig Rondell) 的角度来看，罗先生是一个在海豚中裸泳的神秘梦幻人物。
In the duality that characterizes certain types of rock poetry-- I'm reminded of The Doors-- the natural dance Mr. Loh does on the beach brings the listener comfort while at the same time poses a profound spiritual challenge.
在某些类型的摇滚诗歌的二元性中——我想起了《门》——罗先生在海滩上自然的舞蹈给听众带来了舒适感，同时也提出了深刻的精神挑战。
[MUSIC - "MR. LOH" BY BOY HITS CAR] Mr. Loh's not afraid to be naked, but some men fall from grace.
[音乐 - 《男孩撞车》《罗先生》] 罗先生并不害怕裸体，但有些男人却失宠了。
They're not secure with themselves.
他们对自己没有安全感。
He doesn't measure people by things we consider important.
他不会用我们认为重要的事情来衡量人。
Can't seem to comprehend today, so he swims away.
今天似乎无法理解，所以他游走了。
My first instinct was that this had to be a sick Freudian joke one of my siblings was playing on me, as in, what is the most wildly unlikely, most fraught with amazing ironies, most wacky '60s Peter Sellers film thing you can imagine could happen to our family.
我的第一直觉是，这一定是我的一个兄弟姐妹对我开的一个病态的弗洛伊德笑话，就像你能想象到的最不可能、最充满惊人讽刺、最古怪的 60 年代彼得·塞勒斯电影中可能发生在我们家的事情。
But, no. My father was these Malibu surfers' Eggman.
但是，不。我父亲是马里布冲浪者的蛋头人。
He was their Walrus.
他是他们的海象。
I decided to meet them.
我决定去见见他们。
Craig Rondell, bass player Scott Menville, and guitarist Louis Lenard were all too happy to come into a studio and explain how their song came to be.
克雷格·朗德尔、贝斯手斯科特·门维尔和吉他手路易斯·莱纳德都非常高兴地来到录音室解释他们的歌曲是如何诞生的。
It was one day at the beach and there was about five of us just sitting in the sand, just talking.
有一天，我们在海滩上，大约有五个人坐在沙滩上聊天。
Mr. Loh came casually walking up, and he was standing there for just maybe three seconds without saying anything.
罗先生若无其事地走了过来，他站在那里大约三秒钟，什么也没说。
And we were kind of like OK.
我们感觉还好。
And then he said, you're all victims of modern technology.
然后他说，你们都是现代科技的受害者。
I started thinking, wow, that's deep, and then he just started to talk to us.
我开始想，哇，这太深奥了，然后他就开始和我们说话了。
He would sing.
他会唱歌。
Throughout the conversation he would start singing, and so that's where the song-- the premise-- kind of came from.
在整个谈话过程中，他都会开始唱歌，这就是这首歌——前提——的来源。
[MUSIC -- "MR. LOH" BY BOY HITS CAR] Mr. Loh, will you speak to me.
[音乐——男孩撞车的“陆先生”] 陆先生，你能跟我说话吗？
You're the only one I understand.
你是我唯一能理解的人。
Mr. Loh, will you sing to me.
罗先生，你唱歌给我听好吗？
You're the only one who makes sense.
你是唯一一个有道理的人。
Do you remember when you first saw my father?
你还记得第一次见到我父亲是什么时候吗？
Go ahead, Scott.
来吧，斯科特。
I remember-- these guys probably have earlier memories-- but it was in 1978 after the big fire came.
我记得——这些人可能有更早的记忆——但那是1978年大火发生后。
Our house burned down and we moved to Malibu West, and I remember seeing Mr. Loh stretching naked, and then taking a shower outside naked.
我们的房子被烧毁了，我们搬到了马里布西，我记得看到罗先生赤身裸体地伸展身体，然后赤身裸体地在外面洗澡。
At the beach.
在海滩。
Scott Menville At the beach.
斯科特·门维尔在海滩。
And I thought it was kind of like funny but like not in a bad way.
我觉得这有点有趣，但也不坏。
I thought it was interesting.
我觉得这很有趣。
That was my first memory.
那是我最初的记忆。
OK.
好的。
Louis Lenard I too have similar memories.
路易斯·莱纳德 我也有类似的记忆。
I mean, I've been at that beach in Malibu West since I was in diapers.
我的意思是，自从我穿着尿布以来，我就一直在马里布西的那个海滩。
Five, six, seven, eight years old, I was down there and I'd notice him doing somersaults in the sand or doing headstands against the wall, naked as well.
五岁、六岁、七岁、八岁，我在那里，我注意到他在沙子里翻筋斗，或者靠在墙上倒立，也赤身裸体。
Talking to these guys, it suddenly occurred to me who my dad really is.
和这些人交谈时，我突然想到我的父亲到底是谁。
You know how every neighborhood has its eccentric, the cat lady, the parrot man, the guy with the umbrella hat and recycling cart who yells?
你知道每个街区都有一些怪人吗？猫女、鹦鹉男、戴着雨伞帽、推着回收车大喊大叫的家伙？
Well, in my southern Californian hometown, Malibu West, my dad is that person.
嗯，在我南加州的家乡马里布西，我的父亲就是那个人。
It's an unsettling thing to realize about one of your own parents.
了解自己的父母是一件令人不安的事情。
And behind Mr. Loh's back, he was known as the Naked Handstand Man.
而在罗先生的背后，他被称为“裸体倒立人”。
For years I didn't even know his name.
多年来我什至不知道他的名字。
I just thought he was the Naked Handstand Man.
我只是以为他是裸体倒立人。
Scott wrote another-- I'm going to put him on the spot.
斯科特又写了一篇——我要让他陷入困境。
Wait.
等待。
There's a Naked Handstand Man song?
有一首《裸体倒立男》的歌吗？
Yes, of course, there's a Naked Handstand Man song.
是的，当然，有一首《裸体倒立男》歌曲。
Unbelievably, the Mr. Loh song they'd recorded was only the latest in a decade long aesthetic exploration of my father on the part of Boy Hits Car bassist Scott Menville.
令人难以置信的是，他们录制的 Mr. Loh 歌曲只是 Boy Hits Car 贝斯手 Scott Menville 对我父亲长达十年的美学探索中最新的一首。
Ok, it was like, I was walking down the beach one day.
好吧，就像有一天我沿着海滩散步。
I happened to turn and look his way.
我碰巧转身朝他的方向看去。
There stood a man that we all know, and his name is Mr. Loh.
站着一个我们都认识的人，他的名字叫罗先生。
He stood right there with his head in the sand.
他站在那里，把头埋在沙子里。
He's the Naked Handstand Man.
他是裸体倒立人。
Mr. Loh.
罗先生。
Mr. Loh.
罗先生。
Like something like that, I mean, we were like twelve.
就像那样，我的意思是，我们大约十二岁。
I invited my father to join me and the band in the studio.
我邀请父亲加入我和乐队的录音室。
He doesn't really see all the fuss about his nakedness.
他并没有真正看到关于他的裸体的所有大惊小怪。
[UNINTELLIGIBLE] at Stanford University, which I went there, too, in the men's swimming pool, everybody was naked, because that's the most hygienic, most clean thing to do, you see.
[无法理解]在斯坦福大学，我也去过那里，在男子游泳池里，每个人都赤身裸体，因为这是最卫生、最干净的事情，你看。
But if some young people want to see his nakedness as a symbol of something more important, well, my father is happy to be of service.
但如果一些年轻人希望将他的裸体视为更重要事物的象征，那么我父亲很乐意为您服务。
The way I discovered the tape was this.
我发现这盘磁带的方式是这样的。
One day maybe a couple months ago, I hitchhiked, and a couple young men pick me up.
大约几个月前的一天，我搭便车，几个年轻人来接我。
They said, Mr. Loh, we hear that tape about you.
他们说，罗先生，我们听到了关于你的磁带。
Oh, I say, those rascals.
哦，我说，那些无赖。
They did tape.
他们做了磁带。
They didn't tell me.
他们没有告诉我。
And it's very nice.
这非常好。
I feel very happy, very honored , you know.
我感到非常高兴，非常荣幸，你知道。
Probably if they don't write any song about me, probably nobody will ever write about me.
可能如果他们不写任何关于我的歌曲，可能就没有人会写关于我的了。
So this is my life chance.
所以这是我一生的机会。
Of course, that's not true, because I've made my career writing about you.
当然，这不是真的，因为我的职业就是写你。
Yeah, but not song, you see.
是的，但不是歌曲，你看。
You see, you're on the writing so I appreciate that, too.
你看，你正在写作，所以我也很感激。
But I like something different.
但我喜欢不同的东西。
That's very precious for me, you see.
你看，这对我来说非常宝贵。
Of course, with all due respect to the members of Boy Hits Car, in my opinion, my father's the least likely candidate to become a symbol of individual freedom, of spiritual introspection, of the healing powers of nature.
当然，尽管对“男孩撞车”的成员充满敬意，但在我看来，我父亲最不可能成为个人自由、精神内省和自然治愈力量象征的候选人。
After all, this is a man who believed all three of his children should get Ph.D.s in engineering or else they would starve in the street.
毕竟，这个人相信他的三个孩子都应该获得工程学博士学位，否则他们会饿死在街上。
Then again, all these things may be a matter of personal interpretation.
话又说回来，所有这些事情可能都是个人解释的问题。
So you see my father's nakedness as kind of a rebellion of some sort?
所以你认为我父亲的裸体是某种叛逆？
I feel that he has the ability to go beyond the general stereotype that America holds in that regard, and it's free.
我觉得他有能力超越美国在这方面的普遍刻板印象，而且这是免费的。
Contact with nature, now, that's very important.
现在，接触大自然非常重要。
Now in this society, you're so busy, busy, busy, busy, busy.
现在这个社会，你真是忙、忙、忙、忙、忙。
Not much time to talk to yourself or talk to the nature.
没有太多时间与自己交谈或与大自然交谈。
Nature.
自然。
But did you-- I'm just trying to remember as kids, if you encouraged us to do that.
但是你——我只是想记住小时候，如果你鼓励我们这样做的话。
We did many things.
我们做了很多事情。
We always go along the a Beach to the garbage can to collect those aluminum cans.
我们总是沿着海滩到垃圾桶去收集那些铝罐。
And we'd compete with [UNINTELLIGIBLE] family.
我们会与[无法理解]家庭竞争。
We have to go one step ahead.
我们必须先行一步。
Not to put too fine a point on it, but a competition to collect cans for spare change is not the sort of communing with nature, say, Walt Whitman and Ralph Waldo Emerson extolled, which brings me to another point.
并不是要过分强调这一点，但沃尔特·惠特曼和拉尔夫·沃尔多·爱默生所称赞的那种收集罐头换零钱的竞赛并不是与自然的交流，这让我想到了另一点。
I have to say there is something sort of poignant about sitting in a room full of young people who are hanging on to my father's every word.
我不得不说，坐在一个满是年轻人的房间里，有一种令人心酸的感觉，他们牢牢记住我父亲的每一句话。
He's like an odd little guru, they his apostles.
他就像一个奇怪的小导师，他们是他的使徒。
God knows he never got that from my sister, brother, or me.
天知道他从来没有从我的姐姐、兄弟或我那里得到过这样的东西。
At one point for reasons too complicated to explain here, my father sang the boys in the band a Chinese folk song that he had translated into French.
有一次，由于原因太复杂，无法在这里解释，我父亲给乐队里的男孩们唱了一首他翻译成法语的中国民歌。
[SINGING IN FRENCH] Sandra Tsing Loh Were you crying?
[法语演唱] Sandra Tsing Loh 你哭了吗？
Why?
为什么？
Why?
为什么？
Scott Menville That was just beautiful.
斯科特·门维尔 那真是太美了。
That was just an unhindered true expression of something that I just felt that was totally genuine.
这只是我觉得完全真实的事物的不受阻碍的真实表达。
It just gave me the chills.
这只让我不寒而栗。
Should I sing another one?
我应该再唱一首吗？
Sandra Tsing Loh Why not?
为什么不呢？
Sing another one.
再唱一首吧
If this makes my father happy, well, then I guess I'll try to be happy for him.
如果这让我父亲高兴，那么我想我会尽力为他感到高兴。
[MUSIC -- "MR. LOH" BY BOY HITS CAR] Mr. Loh he finds the water and seems to wash his place off as the dolphins jump and play.
[音乐——《男孩撞车》中的“卢先生”] 卢先生找到了水，似乎在海豚跳跃嬉戏时冲走了他的位置。
He speaks to us in the sand.
他在沙子里对我们说话。
Do you know the meaning of life or are you just a simple man?
你知道生命的意义还是你只是一个简单的人？
Then he swims away.
然后他游走了。
Dad, do you have the script for the back end?
爸爸，你有后端脚本吗？
Yeah, I have it.
是的，我有。
Ira Glass OK, why don't you give the back end?
Ira Glass 好吧，你为什么不提供后端呢？
Sandra Tsing Loh is a writer, performer, composer, and columnist for Buzz Magazine in Los Angeles.
Sandra Tsing Loh 是洛杉矶 Buzz 杂志的作家、表演者、作曲家和专栏作家。
She's the author of the book, Depth Takes A Holiday: Essays From Lesser Los Angeles.
她是《深度度假：小洛杉矶随笔》一书的作者。
She tells stories about her father in a one woman show called, Aliens in America.
她在一部名为《美国外星人》的单人女性节目中讲述了她父亲的故事。
It opens June 26 at Second Stage in New York City.
它将于 6 月 26 日在纽约市第二阶段开幕。
Dad, I am so glad we're doing this.
爸爸，我很高兴我们能这么做。
Hey, Dad, you know, one of the things that you often complain to me about stories that you hear on public radio is that they're too long.
嘿，爸爸，你知道，你经常向我抱怨你在公共广播电台听到的故事的一件事是它们太长了。
How are we doing so far?
到目前为止我们做得怎么样？
The total story is about eleven minutes.
整个故事大约十一分钟。
That's a pretty long piece.
这是一篇相当长的文章。
Ira Glass Too long do you think?
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）你觉得太长了吗？
Yeah, I think it's too long.
是的，我觉得太长了。
Ira Glass Did your interest flag?
Ira Glass 您的兴趣减弱了吗？
No, my interest didn't slow down.
不，我的兴趣并没有减慢。
However, if I were listening to the show at home with other distractions around, it might lag off a little bit.
然而，如果我在家里听节目，周围有其他干扰，它可能会有点滞后。
Act Two, Father's Music.
第二幕，父亲的音乐。
Ira Glass Now, Dad for this act I asked you to bring in an example of the kinds of music that you, my father, used to play around the house when I was a kid, because you had music going whenever you were home on weekends.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）现在，爸爸，在这个表演中，我请你举一个例子，说明你，我的父亲，在我小时候经常在家里播放的音乐类型，因为周末只要你在家，你就会播放音乐。
Absolutely.
绝对地。
Ira Glass OK.
艾拉·格拉斯 好的。
So what did you bring in?
那么你带了什么进来？
Well, I brought three Frank Sinatra CDs.
嗯，我带了三张 Frank Sinatra CD。
Right on.
就在。
Can you just choose a song and let's pop that on?
您可以选择一首歌然后让我们播放吗？
Probably my favorite Frank Sinatra song, "Lady is a Tramp."
可能是我最喜欢的弗兰克·西纳特拉的歌曲“Lady is a Tramp”。
Why is this your favorite?
为什么这是你的最爱？
Barry Glass I don't know.
巴里·格拉斯 我不知道。
I just like the rhythm.
我只是喜欢节奏。
I like Frank Sinatra's phrasing.
我喜欢弗兰克·辛纳屈的措辞。
Oh, Dad, this really swings.
哦，爸爸，这真是摇摆不定。
[MUSIC -- "LADY IS A TRAMP" BY FRANK SINATRA]
[音乐——弗兰克·辛纳屈的《女士是流浪汉》]
Ira, do you remember the 60th birthday party--
艾拉，你还记得 60 岁生日聚会吗——
--where we had the Frank Sinatra impersonator?
——我们哪里有弗兰克·辛纳屈的模仿者？
Sure.
当然。
Barry Glass He sang this there.
巴里·格拉斯（Barry Glass）他在那里唱过这首歌。
Did a pretty good job, too.
也做得相当不错。
What do you think?
你怎么认为？
Pretty good song?
很好听的歌吗？
It's a great song.
这是一首很棒的歌。
This next story that we're going to is by a writer named Sherman Alexie, who lives out on the West Coast.
我们要讲的下一个故事是由一位名叫谢尔曼·亚历克西（Sherman Alexie）的作家写的，他住在西海岸。
And among other things, it's about his father and his father's favorite song.
除此之外，这是关于他的父亲和他父亲最喜欢的歌曲。
And Dad, his father is, I guess, a bit younger than you.
爸爸，我猜他的父亲比你年轻一点。
So it's not "Lady is a Tramp" or anything like that.
所以这不是“女士是流浪汉”或类似的东西。
No, this story is called, Because My Father Always Said He Was the Only Indian Who Saw Jimi Hendrix Play "The Star Spangled Banner " at Woodstock.
不，这个故事叫“因为我父亲总是说他是唯一一个在伍德斯托克看过吉米·亨德里克斯演奏《星条旗永不落》的印度人”。
During the '60s my father was the perfect hippie since all the hippies were trying to be Indians anyway.
在 60 年代，我父亲是完美的嬉皮士，因为无论如何，所有嬉皮士都想成为印度人。
But because of that, my father was always asking me, how does anybody recognize when an Indian's trying to make a social statement?
但正因为如此，我父亲总是问我，当印度人试图发表社会声明时，人们如何识别？
But there's proof.
但有证据。
There's evidence.
有证据。
Back during the Vietnam War, my father was at one of those demonstrations against it, you know.
你知道，在越南战争期间，我父亲参加了一场反对越南战争的示威活动。
Yeah, there's this photograph of my father demonstrating in Spokane during that Vietnam War.
是的，这是我父亲在越南战争期间在斯波坎示威的照片。
And the photograph made it on to the wire service and was reprinted in newspapers throughout the country.
这张照片登上了通讯社，并在全国各地的报纸上转载。
It even made it on the cover of TIME Magazine.
它甚至登上了《时代》杂志的封面。
And in this photograph my father's wearing bell bottoms and this flowered shirt, and he's got red peace symbols splashed on his cheeks like war paint, and he's looking like a hippie or an Indian.
在这张照片中，我父亲穿着喇叭裤和花衬衫，他的脸颊上溅着红色的和平符号，就像战争油漆一样，他看起来像一个嬉皮士或印第安人。
Yeah, and in his hands he's holding this M-16 rifle, and the photograph captures him in that moment just before he proceeds to beat the crap out of the National Guard private lying prone at his feet.
是的，他手里拿着这把 M-16 步枪，这张照片捕捉到了他在将趴在他脚下的国民警卫队列兵打得落花流水之前的那一刻。
A fellow demonstrator holds a sign that is just barely visible over my father's left shoulder.
一名示威者举着一块牌子，在我父亲的左肩上几乎看不见。
It read, make love, not war.
上面写着，做爱，而不是战争。
That photographer won a Pulitzer Prize, and editors across the country had a lot of fun creating captions and headlines.
这位摄影师获得了普利策奖，全国各地的编辑都在创作标题和头条新闻中获得了很多乐趣。
I've read a lot of them collected in my father's scrapbook, but my favorite was run in the Seattle Times.
我读过很多收集在我父亲的剪贴簿中的文章，但我最喜欢的是《西雅图时报》上的文章。
The caption under the photograph read, demonstrator goes to war for peace.
照片下方的说明文字是：示威者为和平而战。
Anyways, my father was arrested, but he got lucky.
无论如何，我父亲被捕了，但他很幸运。
At first they charged him with attempted murder, but they plea bargained that down to assault with a deadly weapon, and then they plea bargained that down to being Indian in the 20th century.
起初，他们指控他谋杀未遂，但他们辩称，将其归结为使用致命武器袭击，然后，他们将其归结为是 20 世纪的印度人。
He got two years and spent them in Walla Walla State Penitentiary, you know.
你知道，他被判了两年徒刑并在沃拉沃拉州立监狱度过。
My father made it through those two years in prison, you know, and never got into any serious trouble, somehow avoided rape, and got out of prison just in time to hitchhike to Woodstock to watch Jimi Hendrix play "The Star Spangled Banner." After all the [bleep] I'd been through, my father said, I figured Jimi must've known I was there in the crowd to play something like that.
你知道，我父亲在监狱里度过了那两年，从未遇到过任何严重的麻烦，还以某种方式避免了强奸，出狱后正好搭便车去伍德斯托克观看吉米·亨德里克斯演奏《星条旗永不落》。我父亲说，在我经历了那么多的事情之后，我想吉米一定知道我在人群中演奏类似的东西。
20 years later, my father played his Jimi Hendrix tape until it wore down.
20 年后，我父亲一直播放他的吉米·亨德里克斯磁带直至其磨损。
Over and over the house filled with the rocket's red glare and the bombs bursting in air.
房子里一次又一次充满了火箭的红色光芒和在空中爆炸的炸弹。
He'd sit by the stereo with a cooler of beer beside him, and cry, laugh, call me over, and hold me tight in his arms, his bad breath and body odor covering me like a blanket.
他会坐在音响旁，旁边放着一瓶冰镇啤酒，哭、笑、叫我过去，把我紧紧地抱在怀里，他的口臭和体味像毯子一样覆盖着我。
Jimi Hendrix and my father became drinking buddies.
吉米·亨德里克斯和我父亲成了酒友。
Jimi Hendrix waited for my father to come home after a long night of drinking, and here's how the ceremony'd work.
吉米·亨德里克斯在喝了一夜酒后等待我父亲回家，仪式是这样进行的。
I would lie awake all night and listen for the sounds of my father's pickup.
我会整晚睡不着，聆听父亲拾音器的声音。
And when I heard it, I'd run downstairs, turn on the record player, and Jimi Hendrix would break into "The Star Spangled Banner" just as my father walked in the door.
当我听到它时，我会跑下楼，打开电唱机，当我父亲走进门时，吉米·亨德里克斯就会唱起《星条旗永不落》。
He'd salute, walk over to the table, sit down, and start drinking some more, or I'd walk over there, lay down at his feet, and he'd pass out on the table.
他会敬礼，走到桌子旁，坐下来，然后开始再喝点酒，或者我会走到那里，躺在他脚边，然后他就会在桌子上昏倒。
I'd fall asleep at his feet and we'd dream the same dreams.
我会在他脚边睡着，我们会做同样的梦。
And then when he woke up in the morning he'd feel so guilty he'd tell me stories.
然后当他早上醒来时，他会感到非常内疚，所以会给我讲故事。
He talked about how he met my mother, you know.
你知道，他谈到了他是如何认识我母亲的。
He'd say, yeah, me and your uncle Raymond were sitting in the Pow Wow Tavern when your mother came walking in.
他会说，是的，当你妈妈走进来时，我和你叔叔雷蒙德正坐在战俘酒馆里。
And she was real tall, about six feet tall, you know, just beautiful.
她真的很高，大约有六英尺高，你知道，非常漂亮。
And your Uncle Raymond turned to me and said, she's real tall, ain't it?
你的雷蒙德叔叔转向我说，她真的很高，不是吗？
And I said, yeah.
我说，是的。
And your Uncle Raymond said, what tribe do you think she is?
你的雷蒙德叔叔说，你认为她是什么部落？
And I said, Amazon.
我说，亚马逊。
And your Uncle Raymond leaned in real close to me and said, their reservation's in Montana, isn't it?
你的雷蒙德叔叔靠近我说，他们的预订是在蒙大拿州，不是吗？
Your mother and I ended out that night sitting on the hood of a '65 Malibu, both smoking cigarettes and coughing away.
那天晚上，你妈妈和我坐在一辆 65 年款 Malibu 的引擎盖上，一边抽烟一边咳嗽。
Neither of us smoked but we both thought the other one did.
我们俩都不抽烟，但我们都认为对方抽烟。
Somehow my father's memories of my mother grew more beautiful as their relationship became more hostile.
不知何故，随着他们的关系变得更加敌对，父亲对母亲的记忆也变得更加美好。
By the time the divorce was final, my mother was quite possibly the most beautiful woman who ever lived.
当离婚最终完成时，我的母亲很可能是有史以来最美丽的女人。
Your father was always half crazy, my mother told me more than once, and the other half was on medication.
我母亲不止一次告诉我，你的父亲总是一半疯狂，另一半则在接受药物治疗。
Yeah, one night my father and I were driving home in a blizzard after a basketball game, you know, listening to the radio.
是的，有一天晚上，我和父亲在一场篮球比赛结束后在暴风雪中开车回家，你知道，听着广播。
We didn't talk much.
我们没有聊太多。
And we heard this DJ on the radio.
我们在广播中听到了这位 DJ 的声音。
Hello, out there, folks.
哈喽，大家好。
This is Big Bill Baggins with the late night classic show on KROC 97.2 on your FM dial.
我是大比尔·巴金斯 (Big Bill Baggins)，在您的 FM 频道上播放 KROC 97.2 的深夜经典节目。
We have a request here from Betty in Teco.
我们收到来自东元贝蒂的请求。
She wants to hear Jimi Hendrix's version of "The Star Spangled Banner" recorded live at Woodstock.
她想听吉米·亨德里克斯在伍德斯托克现场录制的《星条旗永不落》版本。
My father smiled, turned the volume up, and we rode down the highway while Jimi led the way like a snowplow.
父亲微笑着，调高了音量，我们沿着高速公路骑行，吉米像扫雪机一样在前面引路。
Until that night, I'd always been neutral about Jimi Hendrix.
直到那天晚上，我对吉米·亨德里克斯一直保持中立。
But in that near blizzard with my father at the wheel, with the nervous silence caused by the dangerous roads and Jimi's guitar, there seemed to be more to all that music.
但在那场几乎暴风雪的天气里，我父亲开车，危险的道路和吉米的吉他造成了紧张的沉默，所有这些音乐似乎还有更多的内容。
That reverberation came to mean something to me, you know, something specific, something Indian.
这种回响对我来说意味着某种意义，你知道，某种特定的东西，某种印度的东西。
You know, I said to my father, my generation of Indian boys ain't never had no real war to fight.
你知道，我对父亲说，我们这一代印度男孩从来没有经历过真正的战争。
The first Indians had Custer to fight.
第一批印第安人要与卡斯特作战。
My great-grandfather had World War One.
我的曾祖父经历了第一次世界大战。
My grandfather had World War Two.
我的祖父经历了第二次世界大战。
You had Vietnam.
你有越南。
All I had was video games.
我拥有的只有电子游戏。
My father laughed for a long time, nearly drove off the road into the snowy fields.
父亲笑了半天，险些把车开离公路，驶入雪原。
We kept driving through the snow and talked about war and peace.
我们继续在雪地里开车，谈论战争与和平。
Those are the kind of conversations that Jimi Hendrix forced us to have.
这些都是吉米·亨德里克斯强迫我们进行的对话。
I guess every song has a special meaning for someone somewhere.
我想每首歌对于某个地方的某人都有特殊的意义。
I mean, Elvis Presley is still showing up in 7-11 stores across the country even though he's been dead for years.
我的意思是，猫王埃尔维斯·普雷斯利 (Elvis Presley) 仍然出现在全国各地的 7-11 商店中，尽管他已经去世多年了。
So I figure music just might be the most important thing there is.
所以我认为音乐可能是最重要的事情。
Music turned my father into a reservation philosopher.
音乐使我父亲成为一位保留地哲学家。
Music, a powerful medicine.
音乐，一剂强效良药。
You know, my father told me once, I remember the first time your mother and I danced.
你知道，我父亲曾经告诉过我，我记得我和你母亲第一次跳舞。
We were in this cowboy bar.
我们在这个牛仔酒吧里。
We were the only real cowboys despite the fact that we're Indians.
尽管我们是印第安人，但我们是唯一真正的牛仔。
We danced to a Hank Williams song.
我们随着汉克·威廉姆斯的歌曲跳舞。
You know, Hank Williams was a Spokane Indian.
你知道，汉克·威廉姆斯是斯波坎印第安人。
Danced to that real sad one, you know, that I'm so lonesome I could cry, except your mother and I weren't lonesome or crying.
跟着那首真正悲伤的舞曲跳舞，你知道，我是如此孤独，我可以哭泣，但你妈妈和我并不孤独或哭泣。
We just shuffled along and fell right god damn down in love.
我们就这样拖着脚步走着，然后就坠入爱河了。
Hank Williams and Jimi Hendrix don't have much in common, I said.
我说，汉克·威廉姆斯和吉米·亨德里克斯没有太多共同点。
Hell, yes, they do.
天啊，是的，他们确实这么做了。
They knew all about broken hearts, my father said.
我父亲说，他们了解破碎的心。
You sound like a bad movie, I said.
你听起来像是一部糟糕的电影，我说。
Yeah, well, that's how it is.
是的，嗯，就是这样。
You kids today don't know [BLEEP] about romance, don't know [BLEEP] about music either, especially you Indian kids.
你们今天的孩子不知道[BLEEP]关于浪漫，也不知道[BLEEP]关于音乐，尤其是你们印度孩子。
You've all been spoiled by those drums.
你们都被这些鼓宠坏了。
You've been hearing them so long you think that's all you need.
你已经听了很久了，你认为这就是你所需要的。
Hell, son, even an Indian needs a piano, a guitar, a saxophone now and then.
天啊，孩子，即使是印度人也会时不时地需要一把钢琴、一把吉他、一把萨克斯管。
My father played in a band in high school.
我父亲在高中时在一支乐队中演奏。
He was the drummer.
他是鼓手。
I guess he had burned out on those.
我猜他已经厌倦了这些。
Now he was like the universal defender of the guitar.
现在他就像吉他的万能捍卫者。
A few years back my father packed up the family and the three of us drove to Seattle to visit Jimi Hendrix's grave.
几年前，我父亲收拾好家人，我们三人开车前往西雅图参观吉米·亨德里克斯的坟墓。
We had our photograph taken lying down next to that grave.
我们躺在那个坟墓旁边拍了照片。
There isn't a gravestone there, just one of those flat markers.
那里没有墓碑，只有一个平坦的标记。
That's all that's left of Jimi Hendrix.
这就是吉米·亨德里克斯仅存的一切。
He was 28 when he died.
他去世时年仅 28 岁。
That's younger than Jesus Christ when he died, younger than my father as he stood over the grave.
那比耶稣基督去世时还年轻，比我父亲站在坟墓上时还年轻。
Only the good die young, my father said.
父亲说，只有好人才会英年早逝。
Nah, my mother said, only the crazy people choke to death on their own vomit.
不，我妈妈说，只有疯子才会被自己的呕吐物窒息而死。
Why you talking about my hero that way, my father asked.
为什么你这样谈论我的英雄，我父亲问道。
[BLEEP], my mother said, old Jesse Wild choked to death on his own vomit, and he ain't anybody's hero.
[哔]，我母亲说，老杰西·怀尔德被自己的呕吐物噎死了，他不是任何人的英雄。
I stood back and watched my parents argue.
我站在一旁，看着父母争吵。
I was used to those battles.
我已经习惯了那些战斗。
After a while, after too much fighting, and too many angry words had been exchanged, my father went out and bought a motorcycle, a big Harley Davidson.
过了一段时间，经过太多的争吵和太多愤怒的言语之后，我父亲出去买了一辆摩托车，一辆大哈雷戴维森。
He left the house often to ride that thing for hours, sometimes for days.
他经常离开家去骑那东西几个小时，有时甚至几天。
He even strapped an old cassette player to the gas tank so he could listen to music.
他甚至把一台旧录音机绑在油箱上，这样他就可以听音乐了。
With that bike, my father learned something new about running away.
有了那辆自行车，我父亲学到了一些关于逃跑的新知识。
He stopped talking so much, stopped drinking so much.
他不再说话，也不再喝酒。
He didn't do much of anything except ride that bike and listen to Jimi.
除了骑自行车和听吉米说话之外，他什么也没做。
Then one night my father wrecked his bike on Devil's Gap Road and ended up in the hospital for two months, you know.
然后有一天晚上，我父亲在魔鬼峡路上撞坏了他的自行车，最后在医院住了两个月，你知道。
Ended up in this big surgery thing.
最终陷入了这个大手术。
Broke his legs, cracked his ribs, and punctured a lung.
打断了他的腿，打断了他的肋骨，刺穿了肺部。
He lacerated his kidney, really hit his head.
他撕裂了他的肾脏，还击中了他的头。
And the doctor said he could have died easily.
医生说他很容易就死了。
They were kind of surprised he made it through surgery.
他们对他能通过手术感到有点惊讶。
And my father laid there in that coma for two months, and my mother went there every day, you know.
我父亲昏迷了两个月，你知道，我母亲每天都去那里。
And one day my mother was there holding my father's hand, you know.
有一天，我母亲握着我父亲的手，你知道。
And even though the doctor said if my father woke up, he might be somebody different, he might be somebody new, he might be a vegetable, my mother said on that day when she was holding my father's hand with those heart machines sounding like a drum and my father's fingers started beating along, you know, with those heart machines sounding like a drum, my mother said I knew it was your father.
尽管医生说如果我父亲醒来，他可能会变成另一个人，他可能是一个新人，他可能会成为一个植物人，我母亲那天说，当她握着我父亲的手，那些心脏机器听起来像鼓一样，我父亲的手指开始敲击时，你知道，那些心脏机器听起来像鼓，我母亲说我知道那是你的父亲。
I knew it was him, because he was way off rhythm.
我知道是他，因为他完全偏离了节奏。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah, and when my father finally had the strength to sit up and talk, hold conversations and tell stories, he called for me.
是的，当我父亲终于有力量坐起来说话、交谈和讲故事时，他叫了我。
Victor, he said, stick with four wheels.
维克多，他说，坚持使用四个轮子。
He had to learn how to walk again, and when he did, he walked out of that hospital, forgot his advice to me, and got himself a new motorcycle, you know, and he ended up leaving us completely, you know.
他必须重新学习如何走路，当他学会走路时，他走出了那家医院，忘记了他给我的建议，给自己买了一辆新摩托车，你知道，最后他完全离开了我们，你知道。
And then I'd get postcards from Browning, Montana, and Poplar, Montana, and South Dakota.
然后我会收到来自蒙大拿州布朗宁、蒙大拿州波普勒和南达科他州的明信片。
For a while I got postcards nearly every week from him.
有一段时间，我几乎每周都会收到他寄来的明信片。
Then it was once a month.
然后就一个月一次了。
Then it was on Christmas and my birthday.
然后是圣诞节和我的生日。
And then we didn't hear from him at all.
然后我们就完全没有他的消息了。
My mother did her best to explain it all to me.
我妈妈尽力向我解释这一切。
Was it because of Jimi Hendrix, I asked her.
我问她是因为吉米·亨德里克斯吗？
Part of it, yeah, she said.
是的，部分原因，她说。
This might be the only marriage broken up by a dead guitar player.
这可能是唯一因死去的吉他手而破裂的婚姻。
There's a first time for everything, isn't it?
凡事都有第一次，不是吗？
I guess, she said.
我猜，她说。
Your father just likes being alone more than he likes being with other people.
你父亲更喜欢独处，而不是与其他人在一起。
Even me and you.
甚至我和你。
And then on the night I missed my father most when I lay in bed and cried with that photograph of him beating that National Guard private in my hands, I imagined his motorcycle pulling up outside.
然后，在我最想念父亲的那天晚上，当我躺在床上，手里拿着他殴打国民警卫队二等兵的照片时，我哭了，我想象着他的摩托车停在外面。
I knew I was dreaming and all, but I let it be real for a moment.
我知道我在做梦，但我暂时让它成为现实。
Victor, my father yelled, let's go for a ride.
维克多，我父亲喊道，我们去兜风吧。
I'll be right down, I said.
我马上下来，我说。
I need to get my coat.
我需要拿外套。
I rushed around the house, pulled my shoes and socks on, struggled into my coat, and ran outside to find an empty driveway.
我在房子里跑来跑去，穿上鞋袜，费力地穿上外套，跑到外面寻找一条空车道。
It was so quiet.
真是太安静了。
A reservation kind of quiet where you can hear somebody drinking whiskey on the rocks three miles away.
保留区很安静，你可以听到三英里外有人喝加冰块的威士忌。
I stood on the porch all night long and imagined I heard motorcycles and guitars until the sun rose so bright that I knew it was time to go back inside to my mother.
我整夜站在门廊上，想象着摩托车和吉他的声音，直到太阳升起，如此明亮，我知道是时候回到母亲身边了。
She came outside, took me back inside, made us both breakfast, and we ate until we were full.
她走到外面，把我带回屋里，给我们俩做了早餐，我们吃饱了。
Sherman Alexie lives in Seattle.
谢尔曼·亚历克西住在西雅图。
This story comes from his book of stories, The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fist Fight in Heaven.
这个故事出自他的故事集《独行侠》和《通托拳斗天》。
Hey, Dad, it's time for us to give stations a chance to do the local ID breaks and local promos, so I think you have a piece of copy there in front of you.
嘿，爸爸，我们是时候给电视台一个机会来进行本地 ID 中断和本地促销了，所以我想你面前有一份副本。
I do.
我愿意。
Coming up, one father leaves, another one returns, in a minute when our program continues.
接下来，一位父亲离开，另一位父亲回来，一分钟后我们的节目继续进行。
It's This American Life .
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Our special Father's Day edition.
我们的父亲节特别版。
And co-hosting with me for this day is my own father, Barry Glass, now a certified public accountant in Baltimore, but once upon a time, back in his early 20s, a DJ.
与我一起主持这一天的是我自己的父亲巴里·格拉斯 (Barry Glass)，他现在是巴尔的摩的一名注册会计师，但在 20 岁出头的时候曾是一名 DJ。
Ira, you also said you wanted a song dealing with fathers.
Ira，你也说过你想要一首关于父亲的歌曲。
That's right.
这是正确的。
Did you bring in a song dealing with fathers?
你带来了一首关于父亲的歌曲吗？
It's by somebody that you may have never heard of, because you're too young.
这是由你可能从未听说过的人写的，因为你还太年轻。
Maybe you have.
也许你有。
Eddie Fisher.
埃迪·费舍尔。
The only way that I know who Eddie Fisher is-- wasn't he one of Elizabeth Taylor's husbands?
我知道埃迪·费舍尔是谁的唯一方法是——他不是伊丽莎白·泰勒的丈夫之一吗？
That's right.
这是正确的。
That's right.
这是正确的。
Ira Glass He was the one before the guy who she did Cleopatra with.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass） 他是与她一起扮演克利奥帕特拉的那个人之前的那个人。
That's right.
这是正确的。
Ira Glass How very sad for Eddie Fisher that this is all that I would know.
艾拉·格拉斯 对于艾迪·费舍尔来说，这就是我所知道的一切，这真是太悲伤了。
Here I am a person in my mid-30s, an educated person, that is all I would know about him.
我是一个三十多岁的人，一个受过教育的人，这就是我对他的全部了解。
Richard Burton was married to Elizabeth Taylor after Eddie Fisher.
理查德·伯顿在埃迪·费舍尔之后与伊丽莎白·泰勒结婚。
The name of the song is "Oh My Papa."
这首歌的名字是“哦我的爸爸”。
[MUSIC - "OH MY PAPA" BY EDDIE FISHER]
[音乐 - 艾迪·费舍尔的《哦，我的爸爸》]
You couldn't get more on point.
你不能说得更切中要点了。
Actually one of our producers--
实际上我们的一位制作人——
You go around singing that about your father?
你到处唱那首关于你父亲的歌吗？
I will now, Dad.
我现在会的，爸爸。
I promise.
我保证。
At least for the day, at least for Father's Day.
至少这一天，至少父亲节。
Do you want me to do it now?
你要我现在就做吗？
No, that's OK.
不，没关系。
Ira Glass No, I'm going to do it.
艾拉·格拉斯：不，我要这么做。
I'm going to do it.
我会去做的。
No, no, I'm going to do it.
不，不，我要做。
I've heard you sing, Ira.
我听过你唱歌，艾拉。
Ira Glass You can't stop me.
艾拉·格拉斯 你无法阻止我。
When he would take me on his knee and with a smile he'd change my tears to laughter.
当他微笑着把我抱在膝盖上时，他会把我的眼泪变成笑声。
Oh my Papa.
哦我的爸爸。
Dad, this is going out to you.
爸爸，这件事就交给你了。
To me he was so wonderful.
对我来说他是如此美妙。
Ira, my heart is breaking.
艾拉，我的心都碎了。
Act Four: Reconciling With Dad Barry Glass We're now at Act Three, The Moment Dad Left.
第四幕：与爸爸巴里·格拉斯和解 我们现在进入第三幕，爸爸离开的那一刻。
In this act, we have a story from Jay Allison.
在这一幕中，我们有一个来自杰·艾利森的故事。
Jay Allison is this radio producer that all the people who kind of work behind the scenes in public radio, we all know him.
杰·艾利森（Jay Allison）是一位广播制作人，所有在公共广播电台幕后工作的人，我们都认识他。
He just won the biggest award in public radio, the Edward R.
他刚刚获得了公共广播界最大的奖项——爱德华·R·
Murrow Award.
默罗奖。
He does these really unusual little stories.
他写了这些非常不寻常的小故事。
He lives in Woods Hole, Massachusetts, Cape Cod, and one of his neighbors is a guy named Dan Robb.
他住在马萨诸塞州伍兹霍尔的科德角，他的邻居之一是一个名叫丹·罗伯的人。
And Dan Robb is a writer and a teacher and a carpenter.
丹·罗伯是一位作家、教师和木匠。
And Jay and Dan had an idea for a little radio experiment.
杰伊和丹想出了一个小小的无线电实验的主意。
Dan's father left his family when Dan was a little kid, just, I think, three or four years old.
当丹还是个小孩子的时候，我想，只有三四岁，丹的父亲就离开了家人。
And Dan remembered that night vividly, or he thought he did, but he never discussed this with his parents.
丹清楚地记得那个夜晚，或者说他自以为记得，但他从未与父母讨论过这件事。
So, Dad, Jay encouraged Dan to talk to his parents about this on tape, and I'm going to play you the story they put together, OK?
所以，爸爸，杰伊鼓励丹在录音中与他的父母谈论这件事，我将给你播放他们整理的故事，好吗？
Yeah, I'd like to hear it.
是的，我想听听。
Dan Robb I remember clearly the morning they told me they were separating.
丹·罗布 我清楚地记得他们告诉我他们要分居的那天早上。
I was three and they leaned over my bed, which was narrow, and told me this.
我三岁的时候，他们靠在我狭窄的床上告诉了我这件事。
Something like, don't think this changes anything, but dad's moving out.
就像，别以为这会改变什么，但爸爸要搬出去了。
And what I remember is telling them that it was not OK.
我记得告诉他们这是不对的。
Then later that day, I remember watching my father's back as he walked down the stairs outside the house.
那天晚些时候，我记得当父亲走下屋外的楼梯时，我看着他的背影。
They were cement and had a black wrought iron banister running up both sides, and he was walking down the steps away from me.
它们是水泥的，两边都有黑色的锻铁栏杆，他正走下台阶，远离我。
He had a brown tweed jacket on and brown leather shoes, and he was carrying two brown suitcases.
他穿着一件棕色花呢夹克和棕色皮鞋，提着两个棕色手提箱。
He put them in his Jeep back when they still said Willys on the side, and he drove away.
当他们还在一边说威利斯时，他把他们放回吉普车里，然后他开走了。
The steps were cement steps pretty steep and about three flights, three little flights, three steps and then a landing and three steps down.
台阶是水泥台阶，相当陡峭，大约三级，三级小级，三级台阶，然后是一个平台，再向下三级台阶。
And there was something crooked about them.
他们身上有一些扭曲的东西。
One of the steps sort of went off at an angle.
其中一个台阶有点倾斜了。
There was an iron railing along the way up, very pretty.
上去的路上有铁栏杆，很漂亮。
Now, if I looked out the window and watched Dad packing his car and then driving away, at that time what kind of a car would it have been?
现在，如果我望向窗外，看到爸爸收拾好车然后开走，那时那会是一辆什么样的车呢？
Well, he had bought a little sports car, because his car was in the garage-- in the shop-- and he didn't want to wait until it was ready, which would have been two or three days later.
嗯，他买了一辆小跑车，因为他的车在车库里——在商店里——他不想等到它准备好，那会是两三天后。
He bought a little car so that he could leave right away.
他买了一辆小汽车，这样他就可以马上离开。
And he told me he was leaving on a trip across the country, because that's what he had to do in order to clear his mind and get his feet on the ground again.
他告诉我他要出发去全国各地旅行，因为这是他必须做的事情，才能理清思绪，重新站稳脚跟。
So he packed up and he got in this little sports car and took off.
于是他收拾好行李，坐上这辆小跑车出发了。
What kind of car was it?
那是什么车？
Dan's Dad It was a little Triumph, a little two-door.
丹的爸爸 这是一辆小凯旋，一辆小两门车。
It was a neat little car, which I sort of got special for the trip.
这是一辆整洁的小车，我为这次旅行准备了一辆特别的车。
I just drove out West.
我刚开车出西区。
I mean, I just wanted to get away from Pittsburgh and just sort of clear my head out, I thought.
我的意思是，我只是想离开匹兹堡，让自己的头脑清醒一下，我想。
I remember telling Allison that when I got back I thought I would want to move out.
我记得告诉艾莉森，当我回来时，我想搬出去。
I had a lot of different feelings.
我有很多不同的感受。
I was angry that he'd done it.
我很生气他这么做了。
I was angry that he hadn't ever taken Dan and me-- you and me-- on a trip.
我很生气，因为他从来没有带丹和我——你和我——去旅行。
And he was walking down the steps away from me.
他走下台阶，离我越来越远。
And he was carrying two brown suitcases.
他提着两个棕色的手提箱。
He put them in his Jeep back when they still said Willys on the side, and he drove away.
当他们还在一边说威利斯时，他把他们放回吉普车里，然后他开走了。
A little while before he left that day, he knelt down in front of me and tightened my belt for me.
那天他临走前不久，跪在我面前，帮我勒紧腰带。
I have a picture of that.
我有一张照片。
His hands are big, bigger than mine will ever be.
他的手很大，比我的手还要大。
Farmer's hands or a ballplayer's hands.
农民的手或棒球运动员的手。
And he is cinching the belt gently tighter and saying something to me.
他轻轻地把皮带勒紧了，并对我说了些什么。
I mean, I feel bad about all of the sort of gaps when I wasn't there.
我的意思是，当我不在场时，我对所有这些差距感到难过。
And all of that time, I mean, once it's gone, it's gone.
我的意思是，所有这些时间一旦消失，就消失了。
You can never get it back.
你永远无法把它拿回来。
And relationships in many ways are built of memories, and the more memories you have, the deeper the relationship.
关系在很多方面都是由记忆构建的，你拥有的记忆越多，关系就越深厚。
And if you're missing several years of memories, you know, that's hard.
如果你失去了几年的记忆，你知道，那很难。
Well, there's a snapshot of his doing your belt up for you when you were probably three or four.
嗯，有一张他在你三四岁的时候为你系腰带的照片。
You were four when he left, weren't you?
他离开时你才四岁，不是吗？
I don't remember exactly what the season was.
我不记得具体是什么季节了。
It had to have been fall, I think, because I remember taking a lot of pictures of you in the subsequent weeks when we'd get together and go to the parks and stuff.
我想那一定是秋天，因为我记得在接下来的几周里，当我们聚在一起去公园什么的时候，我给你拍了很多照片。
And it was all autumn shots.
这都是秋天的镜头。
And he is cinching the belt gently tighter and saying something to me.
他轻轻地把皮带勒紧了，并对我说了些什么。
I can't make out the words in the picture, which is black and white, and shows me standing there three years old in front of the big window that let the monochrome Pittsburgh light into the living room.
我看不清照片上的文字，照片是黑白的，照片上是我三岁的时候站在大窗户前，匹兹堡的单色光透过窗户射进客厅。
The light is stark as if all of the coal burned to smelt the steel in that city had burned the color out of the air.
光线十分刺眼，仿佛这座城市里所有用来冶炼钢铁的煤炭都烧掉了空气中的颜色。
And it reflects off his hair, which is smooth with Vitalis, and shows his strong jaw and the depth of his dark eyes.
它反射在他的头发上，维塔利斯的头发光滑，显示出他强壮的下巴和深邃的黑眼睛。
There was no abuse in that household, no harsh words that I could hear, just nothing.
那个家里没有虐待行为，我听不到严厉的言语，什么都没有。
No father anymore, and my mother sobbing over the dishes in the sink.
不再有父亲了，母亲对着水槽里的盘子哭泣。
What do you think you would have done after he had packed up his car and left?
当他收拾好汽车并离开后，你认为你会做什么？
What would have been your reaction that I might have observed?
如果我观察到你的反应会是什么？
Oh, you probably saw me sad and mournful, but then turning back to the house and trying to look cheerful.
哦，你可能看到我悲伤和哀伤，但随后又转身回到屋里，试图表现出快乐的样子。
I also felt abandoned, and I felt that it was the end of marriage, the end of my hopes for marriage, the end of my hopes for a family for you and me.
我也感到被抛弃了，我觉得这就是婚姻的终结，是我对婚姻的希望的终结，是我对你我家庭的希望的终结。
And he'd left us.
然后他就离开了我们。
But I also felt, as he drove out of sight, well, thank goodness.
但当他驶出视线时，我也感觉到，谢天谢地。
What a sense of relief.
多么轻松的感觉啊。
I'm free of all that abuse and misunderstanding and bad feeling that had been going on for so long.
我已经摆脱了长久以来所有的虐待、误解和不好的感觉。
I thought, well, at least I can be me now and not try to be something that somebody else was making me be.
我想，好吧，至少我现在可以做我自己，而不是试图成为别人让我成为的人。
The split up was my doing, and coming out of sort of a combination of my own immaturity, restlessness, dissatisfaction, inflated hopes and expectations.
分手是我造成的，是我自己的不成熟、不安、不满、膨胀的希望和期望的结合。
I guess I just felt that I'd never had any kind of freedom.
我想我只是觉得我从未拥有过任何自由。
Of course, I never really found freedom afterwards.
当然，此后我再也没有真正找到自由。
You think, well, you're going to change your life and then, lo and behold, your life turns out to be about the same.
你认为，好吧，你将改变你的生活，然后，你瞧，你的生活结果几乎是一样的。
I was three, and they leaned over my bed, which was narrow, and told me this.
我三岁的时候，他们靠在我狭窄的床上告诉了我这件事。
Don't think this changes anything but Dad's moving out.
别以为这会改变什么，只是爸爸要搬出去了。
And what I remember is telling them that it was not OK.
我记得告诉他们这是不对的。
I didn't want him to tell you first, and he didn't want me to tell you first, so we did it together.
我不想让他先告诉你，他也不想让我先告诉你，所以我们就一起做了。
And I remember I knew it was a terrible blow for you.
我记得我知道这对你来说是一个可怕的打击。
I don't remember telling you with her.
我不记得和她告诉过你。
You were in bed, I remember.
我记得你当时在床上。
At least I have this picture in my mind.
至少我的脑海里还有这样的画面。
And in that little room at Maple Heights.
在枫树高地的那个小房间里。
And I came in and I started to say something like, Dan, I'm going to be leaving and whatever I was going to say, and you somehow knew what was coming.
我进来后就开始说，丹，我要走了，无论我要说什么，你都知道接下来会发生什么。
It was not OK.
不行。
Dan's Dad And you said, I don't want to hear it, and put a pillow over your head, and didn't want to listen.
丹的爸爸，你说，我不想听，就用枕头盖住你的头，不想听。
And it was a wrenching moment.
这是一个痛苦的时刻。
It really was.
确实如此。
I've thought since then that actually when I walked out of your bedroom that night, that that was really a major turning point in my life.
从那时起我就想，实际上那天晚上我走出你的卧室时，那确实是我人生中的一个重大转折点。
And I don't know to this day whether it was for good or ill.
直到今天我也不知道这是好还是坏。
When my father left my bedroom, it was a turning point for me, too.
当我父亲离开我的卧室时，这对我来说也是一个转折点。
It was the moment I moved outside the myth of the American family, left it, and became a part of something else, something with no affirming mythology to look forward to, and my restless memories of that day to look back on.
那一刻，我摆脱了美国家庭的神话，离开了它，成为了其他事物的一部分，一个没有肯定的神话可以期待的事物，以及我对那天的不安的回忆。
I became a part of divorce, which is like the death of the family, and I turned down a path less well-marked, less well-lit, but I, unlike my father, no longer wonder if it was for good or for ill.
我成为了离婚的一部分，这就像家庭的死亡，我走上了一条不那么明显、不那么明亮的道路，但我与我的父亲不同，不再怀疑这是好还是坏。
It just is.
确实如此。
OK, well, I think that's about it.
好吧，我想就是这样。
This will be on the radio right before Father's Day.
这将在父亲节前夕在广播中播出。
So I'd like to wish you a happy Father's Day.
所以我谨祝您父亲节快乐。
Oh, OK.
哦，好吧。
Thank you.
谢谢。
Dan Robb You're welcome.
丹·罗伯 不客气。
And maybe we can make something good out of this.
也许我们可以从中做出一些好事。
Love you, man.
爱你，伙计。
Dan Robb OK.
丹·罗布 好的。
Talk to you soon.
很快就和你谈谈。
Do the next act open, please.
请开始下一幕。
Barry Glass Act Four, Reconciling With Dad.
巴里·格拉斯第四幕，与爸爸和解。
You know, this whole show is like go to reconciling with Dad.
你知道，整个节目就像是去和爸爸和解。
But you and I we don't need to reconcile.
但你和我，我们不需要和解。
No, we don't.
不，我们不。
Ira Glass We don't.
艾拉·格拉斯：我们不知道。
Well, Dad, this next story is about a father and son.
好吧，爸爸，下一个故事是关于一对父子的。
The father was this pretty well known man here in Chicago named James D.
他的父亲是芝加哥一位非常有名的人，名叫詹姆斯·D·
O'Reilly.
奥莱利.
He was an actor here and a director from the 1960s through the 1980s.
从 20 世纪 60 年代到 80 年代，他是这里的演员和导演。
He's one of these people who everybody knew.
他是每个人都认识的人之一。
He was the artistic director of the Body Politic Theater and the Court Theater, which are two theaters here in town.
他是身体政治剧院和宫廷剧院的艺术总监，这两个剧院是镇上的两个剧院。
And he wasn't the most reliable dad.
他也不是最可靠的父亲。
And his son is a guy named Beau O'Reilly, who's a playwright and a local musician and stages a lot of theater here in town.
他的儿子名叫博·奥莱利 (Beau O'Reilly)，是一位剧作家和当地音乐家，在镇上举办了很多戏剧表演。
And Beau has this story about his father, including a moment in their lives when they did reconcile in a way.
博有一个关于他父亲的故事，其中包括他们生命中以某种方式和解的时刻。
When I was a little kid, five or six, my father would do these big variety shows, these musical revues for college theater groups.
当我还是个五六岁的小孩子时，我父亲会为大学剧团表演这些大型综艺节目、音乐剧。
And I would often appear with him, playing the bad kid in town or the midget clown screaming the lines of "This Old Man" from the top of a step ladder.
我经常和他一起出现，扮演镇上的坏孩子或侏儒小丑，从梯子的顶部尖叫着“这个老人”的台词。
And at the show's end, we would rush first to the bar where my father knew all the girls' names, and then to the train station to catch the last train home.
演出结束后，我们会先冲到父亲知道所有女孩名字的酒吧，然后去火车站赶末班车回家。
And I would get very tense then and hot in my stomach like I was going to burn up and pass out.
那时我会变得非常紧张，胃里很热，就像我要燃烧起来然后昏倒一样。
So we would often miss the last train home and have to spend the long hours until morning waiting in the train station, my father falling quickly asleep, his huge head thrown back on the train waiting room seat.
所以我们经常错过回家的末班车，不得不在火车站等了很长时间直到早上，父亲很快就睡着了，他的大头靠在火车候车室的座位上。
It seemed to hang in an impossible odd angle from the rest of his body like the dot at the bottom of a question mark that knows it has to be there but hangs on and unattached.
它似乎与他身体的其他部分以一种不可思议的奇怪角度悬挂着，就像问号底部的点一样，它知道它必须在那里，但却挂在上面，没有附着。
And this scene-- my father drunk and snoring, a big question mark of a presence-- would be repeated numbers of times over the next 25 years.
而这个场景——我父亲喝醉了，打鼾，这是一个很大的问号——在接下来的 25 年里会重复出现很多次。
My father passed out at the family table on Christmas morning.
圣诞节早上，我父亲在家庭餐桌上昏倒了。
My father nodding off behind the wheel.
我父亲在方向盘后面打瞌睡。
My father snoring through the still Latin mass.
我父亲在静谧的拉丁弥撒中打鼾。
My father's head thrown back in the last row during my high school production of The Glass Menagerie.
在我高中演出《玻璃动物园》时，我父亲的头向后仰在最后一排。
But when he was awake, he was not totally present either.
但当他醒来时，他也没有完全在场。
He was this silent brooding man home once a week for a family dinner.
他是一个沉默寡言、沉思的人，每周回家一次，与家人共进晚餐。
And I would sit up all night in that train station listening to the muted rumblings of the next morning's diesel engines and the fluttering of pigeons in the ceiling above, my father snoring made rusty and noisy by too much cigarettes and beer.
我会在火车站坐上一整晚，听着第二天早上柴油发动机的低沉隆隆声和天花板上鸽子的振翅声，我父亲的鼾声因太多的香烟和啤酒而变得生锈和吵闹。
When I was 29, something changed between me and my father.
当我29岁的时候，我和父亲之间发生了一些变化。
I was 29 and very drunk most days, and I came home to Chicago to work for my father, I guess.
我当时 29 岁，大部分时间都喝得酩酊大醉，我猜我回到芝加哥的家是为我父亲工作。
I had rarely seen him in my alcoholic adulthood, his alcoholic adulthood having taken him away from the family circle years ago.
在我酗酒的成年时期，我很少见到他，几年前，他的酗酒成年期就让他远离了家庭圈子。
And when my father, he got me this job as a house manager and sometimes understudy at his theater on Lincoln Avenue.
当我父亲给我找了一份房屋经理的工作，有时还到他位于林肯大道的剧院当替补。
And he was warm and kind about it, I guess.
我猜他对此很热情友善。
This kindness was unusual.
这种善意非比寻常。
It was hard for me to recognize it.
我很难认出它来。
I didn't know whether it was kindness really or not.
我不知道这是否真的是善意。
Maybe he just recognized something in my swaying walk and my overly bright loud way of speaking, a kindred alcoholic spirit.
也许他只是从我摇摇晃晃的步伐和我过于明亮大声的说话方式中认出了一些东西，一种相似的酒鬼。
We would from then on do our drinking together late nights at the pub next door to the theater, a pub where we could sit for hours, get a burger and a beer, a pub where my father ran a tab, and I was always on the tab.
从那时起，我们会在深夜一起在剧院隔壁的酒吧喝酒，这是一家我们可以坐上几个小时的酒吧，买一个汉堡和一杯啤酒，这是一家我父亲负责付账的酒吧，而我总是在付账。
Now the pub tables were family long with my father always at the head and crowded with actors and confidantes all with one ear pointed at my father, hoping for a good joke from him, which usually came, or some word of praise which came rarer, but when delivered were always delivered with a flair and a passion.
现在，酒吧里的桌子上都是一家人，我父亲总是走在前面，挤满了演员和红颜知己，所有人都用一只耳朵指着我父亲，希望他能讲一个好笑话，这种笑话通常会出现，或者是一些很少见的赞美之词，但每次讲出来时，总是充满天赋和热情。
These tables would start full, full of people and huge pints of black Guinness and brown beer, but by one or two in the morning, they would be empty except for my father and I.
这些桌子一开始就挤满了人，还有大量的黑吉尼斯黑啤酒和棕色啤酒，但到了凌晨一两点，除了我和父亲之外，桌子上就空了。
Me talking loud and feverish now, lovers and women and broken hearts and politics and plays and broken hearts and lost lovers and lost women and broken hearts.
我现在大声地、狂热地说话，恋人、女人、破碎的心、政治、戏剧、破碎的心、失去的爱人、失去的女人和破碎的心。
And me doing most of the talking, my father nodding and grimacing and looking appropriately sad.
大部分时间都是我在说话，父亲点着头，做了个鬼脸，看上去很悲伤。
But his eyes looking away always, scanning the bodies of the young women who moved about in the pub's waning hours.
但他的目光总是移开，扫视着在酒吧的最后时刻走来走去的年轻女子的身体。
Sometimes these women stopped by the table to speak to my father, him finding sly ways to kiss and touch and pinch them, locking their eyes with his as if his eyes were gift enough to allow him his inappropriate touching.
有时，这些女人会在桌边停下来和我父亲说话，他会想方设法地亲吻、抚摸、捏捏她们，将她们的目光与他的目光锁定，仿佛他的眼睛有足够的天赋，允许他进行不恰当的触摸。
The pub would close with us still in it.
酒吧就要关门了，而我们还在里面。
The tables having adopted the chairs and now holding them piggyback, and my father would sign his tab with a flourish, and we would part company, Me often watching him walk slowly up Lincoln Avenue, a large man with a lordly old-fashioned head, always aware that he was like something out of Shakespeare or O'Neil.
桌子取代了椅子，现在把它们背在背上，我父亲会用夸张的方式在他的标签上签名，然后我们就分手。我经常看着他慢慢地走在林肯大道上，一个有着高贵老式头脑的大男人，总是意识到他就像莎士比亚或奥尼尔的人物。
He might be swaying, but swaying with a charm and a dignity.
他或许在摇摆，但摇摆中带着魅力和尊严。
The further my father got up the street, the more real he felt to me.
父亲在街上走得越远，我对他的感觉就越真实。
There.
那里。
There.
那里。
That was the father I knew, half a courtyard away under the hot lights doing Shakespeare's Lear or Brecht's Galileo, and I would stand on Lincoln Avenue crying, the crying of a 29-year-old drunken baby whose father is moving away, always moving away, and that baby knows he's better off having Dad go.
那是我认识的父亲，在半个庭院外的炽热灯光下表演莎士比亚的《李尔王》或布莱希特的《伽利略》，我会站在林肯大道上哭泣，就像一个29岁醉酒婴儿的哭声，他的父亲正在搬走，总是搬走，而那个婴儿知道他最好让爸爸走。
I learned a lot watching my father's theater that year, wonderful productions of The Playboy of the Western World and Ronald Harwood's The Dresser , Brian Friel's Translations .
那一年，我观看了父亲的戏剧，观看了《西方世界的花花公子》和罗纳德·哈伍德的《梳妆台》、布莱恩·弗里尔的《翻译》的精彩制作，学到了很多东西。
My father's performances were always in the center of the plays, and I was the house manager.
我父亲的表演总是处于戏剧的中心，而我是房屋经理。
I was skittish in a baggy suit and non-matching vintage ties, greeting the audience at the door and selling them coffee, but mostly watching the performances night after night.
我穿着宽松的西装和不相配的复古领带，在门口迎接观众并向他们推销咖啡，但大部分时间都是夜复一夜地观看表演。
My understudy assignment was not something any of us ever expected to use, but one week here it comes.
我的替补作业并不是我们任何人都希望使用的东西，但一周后它来了。
An actor could not appear, and I was to play my father's tortured, crippled son.
演员无法出场，而我要扮演我父亲饱受折磨、残疾的儿子。
It was an Irish play about an Irish father and his Irish sons, and I was an Irish son, never mind that I had an Irish brogue like Ringo Starr's Liverpool, and I'd never appeared on a professional stage.
这是一部关于爱尔兰父亲和他的爱尔兰儿子的爱尔兰戏剧，我是一个爱尔兰儿子，尽管我有像林戈斯塔尔的利物浦这样的爱尔兰土语，而且我从未出现在专业舞台上。
There would be one rehearsal, my father not even on stage but seated in the audience, chain smoking, hung over, barking orders, orders that moved my body hot and frightened clumsily around the stage, me mumbling the lines and standing in all the wrong places.
会有一次排练，我父亲甚至不在舞台上，而是坐在观众席上，连续抽烟，宿醉，大声发号施令，这些命令让我的身体在舞台上笨拙地移动，又热又害怕，我咕哝着台词，站在所有错误的地方。
And the night of the performance I was pacing and shaking in the hall outside of the green room where my father and the rest of the cast were making up and preparing to perform.
演出当晚，我在演员休息室外的大厅里踱来踱去，浑身发抖，父亲和其他演员正在那里化妆并准备表演。
I could hear them talking, but they couldn't see me at all.
我能听到他们说话，但他们根本看不到我。
They didn't know I was there, and one of the actors said, with a good actor's projection and precise actor's diction, get ready for amateur night.
他们不知道我在那里，其中一位演员说，凭借良好的演员投射和精确的演员措辞，为业余之夜做好准备。
What did you say?
你说什么？
My father said it quietly but with force.
父亲说得轻声细语，却充满力量。
Get ready for amateur night.
为业余之夜做好准备。
Well, he'll be fine.
嗯，他会没事的。
You worry about yourself.
你担心你自己。
Prick.
刺。
Now this is the only time I ever heard my father defend me, and I now realize the significance of that, but at the time I was very angry.
现在这是我唯一一次听到父亲为我辩护，我现在意识到这的意义，但当时我很生气。
And it was the anger that burned the fear out of me like a fog on a new hot summer Sunday, and I was fine when I hit the stage.
正是愤怒烧掉了我的恐惧，就像新的炎热夏日周日的雾气一样，当我登上舞台时，我感觉很好。
I was understudy good enough.
我已经足够优秀了。
And when I played to my father, his eyes a deep well into the heart of Brian Friel's Translations , I actually enjoyed myself.
当我给父亲演奏时，他的眼睛深深地洞察了布莱恩·弗里尔的翻译的核心，我真的很享受。
There were moments of real emotion between us.
我们之间有过一些真正的情感时刻。
And on the stage, my father was really there, like I could reach out and touch him, and he would really be there.
在舞台上，我的父亲真的在那里，就像我可以伸手触摸他，他也真的在那里。
And when the lights came down, I stumbled off stage, tripping and falling in the dark.
当灯光熄灭时，我跌跌撞撞地走下舞台，在黑暗中绊倒。
My father was waiting, his big, noble actor head shaggy with sweat, his arms open to receive me.
我的父亲正在等待，他那高大、高贵的演员头上满是汗水，张开双臂迎接我。
We, hugging, missed the curtain call.
我们拥抱着，错过了谢幕。
Probable first for my father.
可能第一个是我父亲。
He was not one to miss a curtain call.
他不是一个会错过谢幕的人。
A few months later, my father fired me during his production of The Dresser by Ronald Harwood, my father playing Sir, a bullying, tyrannical, Shakespearean actor Sir.
几个月后，我父亲在制作罗纳德·哈伍德的《梳妆台》时解雇了我，我父亲在片中饰演“先生”，一位恃强凌弱、暴虐的莎士比亚演员。
My father was not one to shrink from typecasting.
我的父亲并不是一个在类型转换面前退缩的人。
And one of my assignments was to meet him in the lobby, holding a towel which he would use to wipe the makeup and sweat from his face before returning to the stage for the curtain call.
我的任务之一是在大厅与他见面，他会用毛巾擦去脸上的化妆品和汗水，然后返回舞台谢幕。
I wasn't there with the towel.
我不在那儿，拿着毛巾。
I had wandered off to the pub for a pint before the show ended.
演出结束前，我溜达去酒吧喝了一杯。
The truth be told, there were probably many nights when I wasn't there.
说实话，可能有很多个夜晚我都不在。
I was off crying into the phone, running up the long distance phone bill for the theater, or selling dope out of the theater concession stand to my friends.
我对着电话哭泣，为剧院支付长途电话费，或者在剧院小卖部向我的朋友们出售毒品。
I was 29 and drunk most of the time, and my father, he recognized me for what I was.
我当时 29 岁，大部分时间都喝醉了，而我的父亲，他认出了我的本来面目。
I was becoming very much like him in my 29th year, and perhaps he was embarrassed and uncomfortable having to see himself in me every day.
29 岁时，我变得非常像他，也许他因为每天在我身上看到自己而感到尴尬和不舒服。
He was fired soon after from his theater on Lincoln Avenue, and we continued to meet in the pub night after night for many months.
不久之后，他就被林肯大道的剧院解雇了，我们继续在酒吧夜复一夜地见面，持续了好几个月。
Beau O'Reilly is a Chicago playwright.
博·奥莱利是一位芝加哥剧作家。
His show The Third Degrees of J.
他的节目《J的第三度》
O.
奥。
Breeze , is running in Chicago until the end of June.
Breeze 将在芝加哥运行至六月底。
He is also performing in a play called The Trips by Jenny Magnus at the Steppenwolf Theater in Chicago.
他还在芝加哥荒原狼剧院演出珍妮·马格纳斯的戏剧《旅行》。
So, Dad, you're sitting there in a studio in Baltimore.
所以，爸爸，你正坐在巴尔的摩的一间工作室里。
I'm here in Chicago.
我在芝加哥。
Do you have our credits?
你有我们的信用吗？
I do have your credits.
我确实有你的学分。
Ira Glass All right.
艾拉·格拉斯 好吧。
Our program was produced today by Alix Spiegel and Ira Glass with Peter Clowney, Nancy Updike, and Dolores Wilber.
今天我们的节目由阿利克斯·斯皮格尔、艾拉·格拉斯、彼得·克劳尼、南希·厄普代克和多洛雷斯·威尔伯共同制作。
Our contributing editors are Paul Tough, Jack Hitt, and the fabulous Margy Rochlin.
我们的特约编辑是 Paul Tough、Jack Hitt 和出色的 Margy Rochlin。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] Barry Glass Music help today from Chicago's John Connors.
[鸣谢] Barry Glass Music 今天得到了芝加哥 John Connors 的帮助。
The story about Dan Robb's father leaving comes from Jay Allison's ongoing series, Life Stories, which is funded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the National Endowment for the Arts.
丹·罗伯父亲离开的故事来自杰·艾利森正在制作的系列剧《生活故事》，该系列剧由公共广播公司和国家艺术基金会资助。
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如果您想要一份该程序的副本，仅需 10 美元。
You can call WBEZ 312-832-3380.
您可以致电 WBEZ 312-832-3380。
That's 312-832-3380.
那是 312-832-3380。
Ira Glass That was so smooth.
Ira Glass 太顺利了。
Or you can email the program.
或者您可以通过电子邮件发送该程序。
All emails get a response, and if you want to reach my dad, we'll help put you in contact with him, too.
所有电子邮件都会得到回复，如果您想联系我父亲，我们也会帮助您与他取得联系。
The email address, [email protected] .
电子邮件地址，[电子邮件受保护]。
[FUNDING CREDITS] Ira Glass WBEZ management oversight by Torey Malatia.
[资金来源] Ira Glass WBEZ 管理由 Torey Malatia 监督。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
And I'm Barry Glass.
我是巴里·格拉斯。
Ira Glass Back next week with more stories of This American Life .
艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass) 下周将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
Until then, don't drive like my father.
在那之前，不要像我父亲那样开车。
Don't drive like my son.
别像我儿子一样开车。
This American Life This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
This American Life This American Life 与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。