259: Promised Land - This American Life
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Prologue Ira Glass A couple of months ago, I happened to see, for the first time as an adult, the old Disney cartoon Snow White.
序言 Ira Glass 几个月前，作为一个成年人，我第一次看到迪士尼老动画片《白雪公主》。
It's kind of amazing, really.
真的，这有点神奇。
It's Walt Disney's first animated feature, made back in 1937, and when you watch it, it almost feels more like an opera than like a modern movie.
这是华特迪士尼 (Walt Disney) 的第一部动画长片，制作于 1937 年，当你观看它时，你会感觉它更像是一部歌剧，而不是一部现代电影。
Snow White and the prince and the seven dwarfs each enter the film in this very stagey way, each of them singing a song that declares who they are and what it is they want.
白雪公主、王子和七个小矮人都以这种非常舞台化的方式进入电影，他们每个人都唱着一首歌曲来宣告他们是谁以及他们想要什么。
[SINGING] I'm wishing-- I'm wishing-- for the one I love--
[歌唱] 我希望——我希望——为了我爱的人——
Snow White, for instance, sings to her reflection in a wishing well, and her voice echoes back.
例如，白雪公主在许愿井中对着自己的倒影唱歌，她的声音也随之回响。
[SINGING] Today.
[唱歌]今天。
I'm hoping-- I'm hoping-- and I'm dreaming of, the nice thing-- the nice thing-- you say-- you say.
我希望——我希望——而且我梦想着，美好的事情——美好的事情——你说——你说。
And in fact, she meets the prince that very day.
事实上，她那天就遇见了王子。
So I mentioned this to my sister who works for Disney-- she's a film executive there-- that I'd seen Snow White and how it felt like an old opera and how old-fashioned the opening songs were.
所以我向在迪士尼工作的姐姐（她是那里的一名电影主管）提到了这一点，我看过《白雪公主》，感觉它像一部古老的歌剧，开场歌曲也很老式。
And she goes no, no, no, no, no. It's not that it's like an opera.
她说不，不，不，不，不。这并不是说它像一部歌剧。
What you're hearing is just the "I Wish" song.
你听到的只是“我希望”这首歌。
And she tells me this is a standard thing, that this is in lots of movies.
她告诉我这是标准的事情，很多电影里都有。
And the way it works is this.
它的工作原理是这样的。
The very first song that the main character sings, they declare what it is that they want, and then that is what gets the story going.
主角唱的第一首歌，他们宣布了他们想要什么，然后这就是故事的发展。
It's the "I Wish" song.
这就是《我愿意》这首歌。
[SINGING] I want more.
[唱歌]我想要更多。
Ira Glass For instance, the Little Mermaid, Karen says, sings about her wish to be human.
例如，艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass），凯伦说，《小美人鱼》唱出了她想成为人类的愿望。
[SINGING] I want to be where the people are.
[唱歌] 我想去人们在的地方。
I wanna see, wanna see them dancin'.
我想看，想看他们跳舞。
Walking around on those-- what do call 'em?
在那些东西上走来走去——它们叫什么？
Oh-- feet!
哦——脚！
Quasimodo, in the Disney version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame sings this from his tower as his first song.
卡西莫多在迪士尼版本的《巴黎圣母院》中，在他的塔楼上唱了这首歌曲，作为他的第一首歌。
[SINGING] Safe behind these windows and these parapets of stone.
[歌唱] 在这些窗户和这些石墙后面是安全的。
Gazing at the people down below me.
凝视着我下面的人们。
All my life I watch them as I hide up here alone.
我一生都在独自躲在这里看着他们。
Hungry for the histories they show me.
渴望他们向我展示的历史。
All my life I wonder how it feels to pass a day.
我一生都想知道度过一天的感觉如何。
Not above them, but part of them.
不是在他们之上，而是他们的一部分。
And out there--
在那儿——
OK, hold up.
好的，坚持住。
I'm going to stop that.
我要阻止那件事。
That is just too uplifting.
这实在是太令人振奋了。
Anyway, this phenomenon, the "I Wish" song, goes way beyond Disney films.
无论如何，这种现象，即“我希望”歌曲，远远超出了迪士尼电影的范围。
[SINGING] Somewhere over the rainbow, way up--
[歌唱] 彩虹上方的某个地方，高处——
This, of course, is the "I Wish" that Dorothy delivers at the beginning of The Wizard of Oz to go over the rainbow.
当然，这就是《绿野仙踪》开头多萝西所说的“我希望跨越彩虹”。
[SINGING] There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
[唱歌] 我曾在摇篮曲中听说过一片土地。
It turns out lots of old stage musicals begin with the "I Wish" song.
事实证明，许多古老的舞台音乐剧都是以“我希望”这首歌开始的。
Fiddler on the Roof has the daughter singing matchmaker, make me a match.
天台上的提琴手有女儿唱红娘，给我媒。
Funny Girl has Barbara Streisand singing about becoming a star.
《有趣的女孩》让芭芭拉·史翠珊唱起了关于成为明星的歌。
My Fair Lady opens with Julie Andrews wishing for a room somewhere, far away from the cold night air.
《窈窕淑女》以朱莉·安德鲁斯开场，她希望能在某个地方找到一个房间，远离夜晚的寒冷空气。
And Stephen Sondheim, ever the virtuous in this kind of thing, in "Into the Woods" has six different characters singing the various "I Wishes" in the opening.
史蒂芬·桑德海姆（Stephen Sondheim）在这方面一直是个高尚的人，在《走进树林》中，六个不同的角色在开场时唱着不同的“我希望”。
[SINGING] I wish-- Cinderella [SINGING] The King is giving a Festival.
[歌唱] 我希望——灰姑娘 [歌唱] 国王正在举办一个节日。
[SINGING] More than life.
[歌唱] 超越生命。
Jack [SINGING] I wish--
杰克[唱歌]我希望——
[SINGING] More than riches-- Cinderella [SINGING] And the Ball--
[歌唱] 不仅仅是财富——灰姑娘 [歌唱] 和舞会——
[SINGING] I wish my cow would give us some milk.
[唱歌]我希望我的牛能给我们一些牛奶。
[SINGING] I wish you'd give us some milk or even cheese-- I wish.
[唱歌] 我希望你能给我们一些牛奶，甚至奶酪——我希望。
[SINGING] I wish.
[唱歌] 我希望如此。
Ira Glass My sister Karen said that even the Britney Spears movie Crossroads begins with an "I Wish" song.
艾拉·格拉斯 我的妹妹凯伦说，就连布兰妮·斯皮尔斯的电影《十字路口》也以一首“我希望”歌曲开头。
Britney is dancing on her bed in her underwear, singing into a spoon, like it's a microphone, to a Madonna song on her stereo about a girl wants to be a star, which is what she comes by the end of the movie.
布兰妮穿着内衣在床上跳舞，对着勺子唱歌，就像用麦克风一样，在她的立体声音响上唱着麦当娜的歌曲，歌曲讲述了一个女孩想成为明星，这就是她在电影结尾时所唱的。
[SINGING] I've had to work much harder than this.
[唱歌]我必须比这更加努力地工作。
For something I want don't try to resist me.
为了我想要的东西，不要试图反抗我。
Open your heart to me--
向我敞开心扉——
When somebody points out to you how common this is, you start to see the "I Wish" song everywhere.
当有人向你指出这种情况有多常见时，你就会开始随处看到“我希望”这首歌。
And if you're host of your own national radio show, you start to think why haven't we done that?
如果您是自己的国家广播节目的主持人，您会开始思考为什么我们没有这样做？
Why don't we ever start the show with a song--
为什么我们不以一首歌来开始演出——
[MUSIC PLAYING] --where I express my hopes and my dreams for what the show will be today.
[音乐播放]——我表达了对今天的演出的希望和梦想。
[SINGING] Oh, the woman in Act 1 is wistful, but funny in a quiet way.
[唱歌]哦，第一幕中的女人很渴望，但安静的方式很有趣。
And the guy in Act 2 has a tough job to do, a mission that's gone on 20 days.
第二幕中的那个人有一项艰巨的工作要做，这项任务已经完成了 20 天。
I only wish their stories will be gripping and special, even though it's not the news and they're not stars.
我只希望他们的故事扣人心弦且特别，即使这不是新闻，他们也不是明星。
You remember what they said, you'll mention them at dinner, and when their on you will not leave your cars.
你记得他们说的话，你会在晚餐时提到他们，当他们出现时你不会离开你的车。
Because it's radio.
因为它是广播。
Stories on the radio can be funny or emotional, can fill you with longing.
广播里的故事可以是有趣的，也可以是感人的，可以让你充满渴望。
My wish is that today's show lives up to this song.
我的愿望是今天的节目不辜负这首歌。
And bring on the conflict.
并引发冲突。
Make the people speak.
让老百姓说话。
Bring on that music we use every week.
播放我们每周使用的音乐。
I wish for radio, decent stories on the radio.
我希望有广播，广播里有好听的故事。
[SPEAKING] Yes, friends.
[谈话] 是的，朋友们。
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life , distributed by Public Radio International.
来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》，由国际公共广播电台发行。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
You know, those old movies and shows with the "I Wish" songs, they were stories of people trying to achieve some dream, trying to get to some promised land.
你知道，那些带有“我希望”歌曲的老电影和节目，它们是人们试图实现某种梦想、试图到达某个应许之地的故事。
And here this week at This American Life, we filled our show with stories like that.
本周在《美国生活》节目中，我们的节目充满了这样的故事。
Stories of dreamers, stories of people who want to reach a place that they've only heard about.
梦想家的故事，那些想要到达他们只听说过的地方的人的故事。
We have three stories in three acts.
我们有三幕三个故事。
Starlee Kine, David Rakoff and Hillary Frank.
斯塔莉·凯恩、大卫·雷考夫和希拉里·弗兰克。
[SINGING] Oh, I wish that you'll stay here and la-cha-da-da.
[SINGING] Oh, I wish that you'll stay here and la-cha-da-da.
Please don't say goodbye or I'll see ya.
请不要说再见，否则我会再见。
You know you want to hear the final words we have from Torey Malatia.
你知道你想听听托里·马拉蒂亚的最后一句话。
[SPEAKING] Stuff's coming up, friends.
[说话]朋友们，事情即将发生。
So stay with us, eh?
所以留在我们身边吧？
Act One.
第一幕。
Across the Street from Heaven.
与天堂隔街相望。
Well, decades of "I Wish" songs, sung by cartoon characters, spawned an entire empire of "I Wish." Disney films led to Disney theme parks.
几十年来，由卡通人物演唱的“我希望”歌曲催生了整个“我希望”帝国。迪士尼电影催生了迪士尼主题公园。
And at least for now, until the whole thing gets bought up by a big cable company, they're still there, emitting a whole fog of "I Wish" over small children.
至少现在，直到整个公司被一家大型有线电视公司收购之前，它们仍然在那里，对小孩子们散发着“我希望”的迷雾。
Starlee Kine tells this story, a true story, about a wish from her own childhood.
斯塔莉·凯恩讲述了这个真实的故事，讲述了她童年时的一个愿望。
I guess my mom was what you'd call overprotective.
我猜我妈妈就是那种你所说的过度保护的人。
When I would sleep over at a friend's house, the parents would inevitably receive a call around 3:00 in the morning from my mom, asking if they please wouldn't mind holding a mirror up to my mouth to make sure I was still breathing.
当我在朋友家过夜时，父母不可避免地会在凌晨 3:00 左右接到我妈妈的电话，询问他们是否介意将镜子放在我的嘴上，以确保我仍然呼吸。
After that, it was pretty hard to get invited back.
在那之后，就很难再被邀请了。
I wasn't allowed to play soccer because I might get brain damage or die of internal bleeding.
我不被允许踢足球，因为我可能会脑损伤或死于内出血。
I wasn't allowed to ride a school bus because the driver might kidnap me.
我不被允许乘坐校车，因为司机可能会绑架我。
I wasn't allowed to walk my dog down our peaceful suburban street.
我不被允许在我们宁静的郊区街道上遛狗。
"It's much too dangerous out there," my mom would say.
“外面太危险了，”我妈妈会说。
I pleaded with her for months and she finally agreed, on one condition.
我苦苦哀求了她好几个月，她终于同意了，但有一个条件。
I could walk the dog one time around the block provided I leave a trail of popcorn behind me so I didn't get lost.
我可以带着狗绕着街区遛一圈，只要我在身后留下一串爆米花，这样我就不会迷路。
Later, outside, when the neighbor kids asked me what I was doing, I pretended not to hear them.
后来，在外面，当邻居的孩子问我在做什么时，我假装没有听到他们的声音。
This pattern would repeat itself many times over the years.
多年来，这种模式会多次重复。
I'd ask to do something, my mom would refuse.
我要求做点什么，我妈妈会拒绝。
I'd beg her to change her mind, and when she finally did, the compromise she came up with was so strange and complicated that I'd often wish she'd just kept saying no. Take what happened with Disneyland.
我恳求她改变主意，当她最终改变主意时，她提出的妥协方案是如此奇怪和复杂，以至于我常常希望她一直拒绝。以迪士尼乐园发生的事情为例。
A kid growing up in LA can get tired of Disneyland at an early age.
在洛杉矶长大的孩子可能从小就厌倦了迪士尼乐园。
10-year-olds talk about it as though it was a phase they went through when they were young, like when they used to kiss the bear on the Snuggles box.
10 岁的孩子谈论这件事时，就好像这是他们年轻时经历的一个阶段，就像他们过去亲吻 Snuggles 盒子上的小熊一样。
Yeah, Disneyland's all right, I guess.
是的，我想迪士尼乐园还可以。
I mean, if you're into that sort of thing.
我的意思是，如果你喜欢这类事情。
My sister and I, however, were different.
然而我和姐姐却不同。
By the time I was nine and she was six, we'd still never been to Disneyland.
当我九岁、她六岁的时候，我们还从未去过迪士尼乐园。
My mom thought it was way too dangerous.
我妈妈认为这太危险了。
She arrived at this conclusion during one of her daily trials through the morning paper, scanning for dangers that could befall her children.
她在每天的一次尝试中通过晨报得出了这一结论，寻找可能降临到她的孩子们身上的危险。
Somewhere in the back, she'd found an article about a faulty ride at a fair in a small town somewhere in the Midwest, and that was enough to seal our fate for years.
在后面的某个地方，她发现了一篇关于中西部某个小镇的集市上一次错误乘车的文章，这足以决定我们多年来的命运。
No matter how much evidence we provided to the contrary, no matter how much we begged or whined or threatened to stop eating and drinking for 30 days, she still wouldn't budge.
无论我们提供多少相反的证据，无论我们如何哀求、抱怨或威胁要在30天内停止饮食，她仍然不让步。
But just as we were about to give up for good, my mother had a change of heart.
但正当我们准备彻底放弃时，妈妈却改变了主意。
Perhaps the guilt had finally gotten to her.
也许愧疚终于降临到了她身上。
In any case, she decided to throw us a bone.
无论如何，她决定扔给我们一根骨头。
She still wouldn't take us to Disneyland.
她还是不带我们去迪士尼乐园。
She hadn't totally lost her mind after all.
她毕竟还没有完全失去理智。
But she would let us do the next best thing.
但她会让我们做次最好的事情。
For two weeks, we could stay at the Disneyland Hotel.
我们可以在迪士尼乐园酒店住两周。
Judging by the look on her face, you could tell my mom was pretty pleased by this proposition.
从她的表情来看，你可以看出我妈妈对这个提议非常满意。
She beamed at us expectantly, her arms outstretched.
她张开双臂，满怀期待地向我们微笑。
All we could manage to do was shrug our shoulders and nod.
我们所能做的就是耸耸肩并点头。
When the time came to leave, we packed up our little suitcases.
到了出发的时间，我们就收拾好了小行李箱。
We threw in our favorite toys and games.
我们投入了我们最喜欢的玩具和游戏。
I carefully folded in a fresh unopened pack of Mad Libs I'd been saving for a special occasion.
我小心翼翼地将一包新鲜未开封的疯狂利布折叠起来，这是我为特殊场合保存的。
My mom made sandwiches for the ride and packed extra clothes for us in case it got too cold or too hot.
我妈妈为我们做了三明治，并为我们准备了额外的衣服，以防天气太冷或太热。
She turned the air conditioning on in the car and waited until it was nice and freezing inside before letting us in.
她打开车里的空调，等到车内天气晴朗、冰冷才让我们进去。
She didn't want us to get heat stroke.
她不想让我们中暑。
Then she pulled out of our driveway, and we were off.
然后她把车开出了我们的车道，我们就出发了。
15 minutes later, we were pulling into the parking lot of the Disneyland Hotel.
15分钟后，我们的车驶入迪士尼乐园酒店的停车场。
My mom told me to keep track of where we parked, and I made a mental note that we were in the Goofy section.
我妈妈告诉我要记下我们停车的位置，我在心里记下了我们在高飞区。
The Disneyland parking lot was literally across the street.
迪士尼乐园停车场就在街对面。
It was filled to capacity with lines of cars stretching as far as the eye could see.
车子排得满满的，一排排的汽车一直延伸到视线所及之处。
Behind them, I could make out the top of Space Mountain.
在他们身后，我可以看到太空山的山顶。
That's how close we were.
这就是我们的亲密程度。
We headed to the hotel and into the lobby.
我们前往酒店并进入大堂。
The receptionist looked at us and smiled.
接待员看着我们，微笑着。
She leaned down and asked me where we were visiting from.
她弯下身子问我我们从哪里来。
I pretended that I didn't hear her.
我假装没听见她的话。
For the next three years, we'd go to the Disneyland Hotel for two weeks twice a year without ever crossing the street over into Disneyland proper.
在接下来的三年里，我们每年两次去迪士尼乐园酒店两周，而从未穿过街道进入迪士尼乐园。
Whenever we forgot something, like a toothbrush or a raincoat, we'd buy a new one instead of driving the 15 minutes home to pick it up.
每当我们忘记带东西时，比如牙刷或雨衣，我们都会买一件新的，而不是开车 15 分钟回家取。
This made us feel more like we were on vacation.
这让我们感觉更像是在度假。
Before I ever saw the hotel, I pictured a giant treehouse with branches stretching in every direction and little Do Not Disturb signs hanging from their tips.
在我看到这家酒店之前，我想象到一座巨大的树屋，树枝向各个方向延伸，树枝顶端挂着请勿打扰的小标志。
But in reality, the rooms weren't all that different from any other hotels, which wasn't a bad thing.
但实际上，这些房间与其他酒店并没有太大不同，这并不是一件坏事。
They had everything a little kid loves about staying in a hotel.
他们拥有小孩子喜欢住在酒店的一切。
The comforters were scratchy, and the beds were springy and fun to jump on.
被子很粗糙，床很有弹性，跳起来很有趣。
And we could've spent days pressing the button on the ice machine.
我们可能要花几天时间按下制冰机上的按钮。
The only problem was that we were constantly being reminded of what we didn't have.
唯一的问题是我们不断被提醒我们没有什么。
There was a picture of the Magic Kingdom on the ashtrays, on the complimentary notepads, on the soap, even worked into the paisley pattern of the curtains.
烟灰缸上、免费的记事本上、肥皂上，甚至窗帘上的佩斯利图案上都有一张神奇王国的照片。
When you ordered room service, the kids' menu also doubled as a Mickey Mouse mask.
当您订购客房服务时，儿童菜单还兼作米老鼠面具。
You just had to poke out the two slits for eyes and place the hooks over your ears.
你只需要把眼睛的两条缝戳出来，然后把钩子放在耳朵上。
Then when you looked in the mirror, you could see Mickey's face looking back at you.
然后当你照镜子时，你可以看到米奇的脸正看着你。
This wouldn't have been half as bad if not for the fact that the real Mickey Mouse wouldn't have been caught dead in that hotel.
如果不是因为真正的米老鼠不会死在那家酒店，情况还不会那么糟糕。
He was much too famous.
他太出名了。
Instead we had to settle for the second- and third-tier characters, who walked around like they owned the joint.
相反，我们不得不满足于二线和三线角色，他们走来走去，就像他们拥有这个酒吧一样。
We soon had more autographs by J.
很快我们就收到了更多 J 的签名。
Worthington Foulfellow-- the oily fox who lures Pinocchio away from school-- than we knew what to do with.
沃辛顿·福尔费罗（Worthington Foulfellow）——一只引诱匹诺曹离开学校的油腻狐狸——我们不知道该怎么办。
My sister and I would ask him when Mickey was coming, but he'd just shrug his shoulders and do a little dance.
我和姐姐会问他米奇什么时候来，但他只是耸耸肩，跳一小段舞。
We had a perfect view of Disneyland from our room.
从我们的房间可以看到迪士尼乐园的完美景色。
We'd watch people line up outside the entrance an hour before it even opened.
在开门前一小时，我们就看到人们在入口外排队。
At night, we could see the glow of the Electric Light Parade moving down Main Street.
晚上，我们可以看到电灯游行的光芒沿着主街移动。
At first we were sure mom would cave.
起初我们确信妈妈会屈服。
There was just no way she couldn't.
她不可能不这么做。
She taken us, her two precious children, her whole reason for living, to the funnest place on Earth, only to stop 50 feet shy of the fun.
她带着我们，她的两个宝贝孩子，她活着的全部理由，来到了地球上最有趣的地方，却又在距离乐趣只有 50 英尺的地方停下来。
It was like she was dangling the fun in front of us to see how long we could go on grabbing at the air before finally collapsing of exhaustion.
就好像她把乐趣摆在我们面前，看看我们能继续抓住空气多久，最后筋疲力尽地倒下。
There was a monorail that took the hotel guests directly to the park.
有单轨列车可将酒店客人直接带到公园。
It looked like something out of the Jetsons.
它看起来就像是《杰森一家》里的东西。
In the beginning, my sister and I hung out in front of the monorail all the time.
一开始，我和姐姐一直在单轨电车前闲逛。
We'd bring our coloring books and Connect Four pieces and just camp out.
我们会带上我们的涂色书和连环四块，然后就去露营。
We'd even eat our lunch there.
我们甚至会在那里吃午餐。
We were like dogs waiting behind the door for our owner to finally open it and let us out.
我们就像狗一样在门后等待我们的主人最终打开门并让我们出去。
Every time we heard footsteps, we'd perk up our ears, hoping it was our mom coming to tell us it was time.
每次听到脚步声，我们都会竖起耳朵，希望是妈妈来告诉我们时间到了。
We were ready, but she never came.
我们已经准备好了，但她没有来。
To pass the time, my sister and I became experts at the various kid activities the hotel had to offer.
为了打发时间，我和姐姐成为了酒店提供的各种儿童活动的专家。
We could assemble the Donald Duck popsicle stick faces with our eyes closed.
我们可以闭着眼睛组装唐老鸭冰棍棒的脸。
The hotel had a fake beach next to the pool even though the real beach was only 10 minutes away.
酒店的游泳池旁边有一个假海滩，尽管真正的海滩距离酒店只有 10 分钟路程。
Every hour, a judge with a whistle around his neck would give an award for the best sand castle.
每小时，脖子上挂着哨子的评委都会颁发最佳沙堡奖。
The prize was five Disney dollars, valid for use only at Disneyland.
奖品为五美元迪士尼币，仅可在迪士尼乐园使用。
My sister and I always won because we never had to get up and leave.
我和姐姐总是赢，因为我们从来不需要起身离开。
The other kids would barely have managed their first tunnel, while we would already be adding on a second level to the carriage house in back.
其他孩子几乎无法通过他们的第一条隧道，而我们已经在后面的马车房添加了第二层。
We eventually got to know the different people who worked there.
我们最终认识了在那里工作的不同人。
The guys who sang in the fake barbershop quartet, who didn't like each other at all.
那些在假理发店四重奏中唱歌的家伙，他们根本不喜欢对方。
The mime who frankly seemed to be phoning it in.
老实说，那个哑剧似乎是在打电话。
The man who sold churos that we bought for dinner.
那个卖我们晚餐买的油条的人。
My favorite, however, was a caricature artist.
然而，我最喜欢的是一位漫画家。
We'd always wait until the last night of our trip to get our caricature done.
我们总是等到旅行的最后一晚才完成漫画。
We liked to save it for the end.
我们喜欢把它留到最后。
The caricature artist would ask what we enjoyed doing most, and we'd tell him whatever we were into at the time.
漫画家会问我们最喜欢做什么，我们会告诉他我们当时喜欢做什么。
When I was nine, I had just gotten a new dog.
当我九岁的时候，我刚刚养了一只新狗。
The caricature artist drew my dog and me riding Space Mountain.
漫画家画了我和我的狗骑着太空山。
He made my dog look like Pluto.
他让我的狗看起来像普鲁托。
His paws are sticking up in the air.
他的爪子举在空中。
My mom still has these caricatures.
我妈妈还保留着这些漫画。
They cover an entire wall of her house, picture after picture, the way other parents display photos of their kids.
它们覆盖了她房子的整面墙，一张又一张，就像其他父母展示孩子照片的方式一样。
If you look at them in order, you can actually see us grow up before your very eyes, our oversized heads and little bodies acquiring different hairstyles and fashions over the years.
如果你按顺序看，你真的可以看到我们在你眼前长大，我们超大的脑袋和小小的身体随着时间的推移有了不同的发型和时尚。
There I am in fourth grade, learning how to swim.
我在那里读四年级，正在学习游泳。
The caricaturist drew me jumping into a tiny bucket of water.
漫画家画我跳进一小桶水里。
In fifth grade, I discovered boys, and you can see me and Kirk Cameron riding a tandem bicycle.
五年级时，我发现了男孩，你可以看到我和柯克·卡梅伦骑着双人自行车。
Sixth grade was my dark phase, where I didn't think I was interested in anything.
六年级是我的黑暗阶段，我认为自己对任何事情都不感兴趣。
The caricaturist just drew me standing in line for the Pirates of the Caribbean, rolling my eyes and looking surly.
漫画家刚刚画了我在排队观看《加勒比海盗》时，我翻白眼，表情阴郁。
The hotel was literally brimming with children, a lot like how I imagined Never Never Land to be.
酒店里挤满了孩子，就像我想象中的梦幻岛一样。
Everywhere you turned, you spotted one, hiding behind a potted plant or laying under the continental breakfast buffet table.
无论你走到哪里，你都会发现一个，它躲在盆栽植物后面，或者躺在欧陆式早餐自助餐桌下。
It was like their parents had surrendered all control of them.
就好像他们的父母放弃了对他们的所有控制。
You'd get in an elevator, and there'd be at least a dozen kids, dressed however they saw fit.
你走进电梯，里面至少有十几个孩子，穿着他们认为合适的衣服。
One wore a snorkel on his head even though he wasn't going to the pool.
尽管他不去游泳池，但其中一个人头上戴着通气管。
One wore a sneaker on his right foot and a cowboy boot on his left.
其中一名右脚穿着运动鞋，左脚穿着牛仔靴。
Several of them wore capes made out of hotel pillowcases.
他们中的一些人穿着用酒店枕套制成的斗篷。
Within seconds, some kid would push every one of the elevator buttons, and the other kids, deep in conversation with one another, would clap distractedly.
几秒钟之内，某个孩子就会按下电梯的每一个按钮，而其他孩子则在互相深入交谈，心不在焉地鼓掌。
If there were any adults in there with us, they'd roll their eyes, but not even all that much.
如果有成年人和我们在一起，他们会翻白眼，但不会翻白眼。
They knew this place was for us.
他们知道这个地方适合我们。
My sister and I made friends with these kids whenever we could.
我和姐姐一有机会就和这些孩子交朋友。
Timing was key.
时机是关键。
It was imperative that we catch them before they made the trek across the street.
我们必须在他们长途跋涉穿过街道之前抓住他们。
After that, we'd lose our edge.
在那之后，我们就会失去优势。
So every night we'd hang out by the checkout desk and await the new arrivals.
所以每天晚上我们都会在收银台旁等待新人的到来。
We'd sidle up to them while their parents were checking in and ask them where they were from.
当他们的父母办理入住手续时，我们会悄悄靠近他们，问他们来自哪里。
We told them that we knew the hotel pretty well, so they should stick with us.
我们告诉他们我们非常了解这家酒店，所以他们应该坚持我们。
We knew how to get stuff.
我们知道如何得到东西。
"Would you like extra marshmallows with your hot chocolate?" we'd say.
“你想在热巧克力中加点棉花糖吗？”我们会说。
"The room service guy is a friend of ours.
“客房服务人员是我们的朋友。
How about extra whipped cream?"
加点鲜奶油怎么样？”
We'd spend a few hours with them or, if we were lucky and it rained, a full day.
我们会和他们待上几个小时，如果幸运的话，下雨了，我们会待上一整天。
Then these kids would head off to the park.
然后这些孩子就会去公园。
My sister and I would be waiting outside the monorail when they returned.
当他们回来时，我和姐姐会在单轨列车外等候。
They'd climb off, all loaded down with souvenirs, looking pink and exhausted.
他们爬下车，满载着纪念品，脸色粉红，疲惫不堪。
But in their eyes, we detected a change.
但在他们的眼中，我们发现了变化。
They'd seen things we couldn't even begin to imagine, and we couldn't think of anything to say to them.
他们看到了我们无法想象的事情，我们也想不出有什么话可对他们说。
After a few days when they checked out of the hotel, none of them bothered to say goodbye.
几天后，当他们退房时，他们都懒得告别。
We did finally make it to Disneyland as kids when I was 11 and my sister was 8, and it happened in the most random way possible, like a piano falling out of the sky onto our heads.
当我 11 岁、我姐姐 8 岁的时候，我们终于进入了迪士尼乐园，这一切以最随机的方式发生，就像一架钢琴从天而降，砸在我们头上。
One morning, long after my sister and I had stopped asking, my mom just said, "Hey, guys.
一天早上，在我和姐姐停止询问很久之后，我妈妈只是说：“嘿，伙计们。
Do you want to go to Disneyland?" It was a school day.
你想去迪士尼乐园吗？”那天是上学日。
We had no idea where this uncharacteristic burst of spontaneity was coming from, but my sister and I had learned by now not to question these things.
我们不知道这种不寻常的自发性爆发从何而来，但我和姐姐现在已经学会不要质疑这些事情。
Once we are finally inside the gates, my sister and I knew exactly where to go.
一旦我们终于进了大门，我和姐姐就知道该去哪里。
There had been a map of the park with illustrations of all the different rides in the hotel lobby.
酒店大堂有一张公园地图，上面画有所有不同游乐设施的插图。
We studied it so long we had it memorized.
我们研究了很长时间，我们已经记住了它。
But the real Disneyland was different than the one we'd imagined for so long.
但真正的迪士尼乐园与我们长期以来想象的不同。
It was strange to see that it was a natural place with long lines and smelly bathrooms.
奇怪的是，这是一个自然的地方，排着长队，浴室也有臭味。
When I climbed onto a ride, I was surprised by how solid the seat felt.
当我爬上游乐设施时，我惊讶于座椅的坚固感。
When you think of fantasy places in your head, you never think about the fact that they're plastic, that the overhead bar might pinch your neck.
当你在脑海中想象幻想的地方时，你永远不会想到它们是塑料的，头顶上的酒吧可能会夹住你的脖子。
We thought it was great.
我们认为这很棒。
My mom, of course, wouldn't let us go on everything.
我妈妈当然不会让我们继续一切。
She said the Matterhorn looked like it was about to fall apart, and we knew Thunder Mountain was out of the question.
她说马特洪峰看上去快要崩塌了，而我们知道雷霆山是不可能的。
But we didn't care.
但我们不在乎。
She seemed more relaxed that day than we'd ever seen her.
那天她看起来比我们见过的任何时候都要放松。
She laughed her head off in the tea cups.
她在茶杯里笑得前仰后合。
And when my sister got a paper cut from the salted pretzel wrapper, my mom just gave it a kiss instead of rushing her to the Emergency Room.
当我姐姐从咸椒盐卷饼包装纸上割下一张纸时，我妈妈只是吻了吻它，而不是赶紧把她送到急诊室。
We were getting our Mickey Mouse hats embroidered with our names when our mom came up to us and told us to follow her.
当我们的妈妈走到我们面前并让我们跟着她时，我们正在给米老鼠帽子绣上我们的名字。
She led us to the ticket office in front and asked the lady for three annual passes: one adult and two kids.
她带我们到前面的售票处，向那位女士要了三张年票：一名成人和两名儿童。
The passes meant we could come to Disneyland any time we wanted that year for free.
有了通行证，我们就可以在一年内随时免费前往迪士尼乐园。
The lady took our ID photograph for the card, my sister and I each wearing the same stunned expression on our face.
这位女士给我们拍了身份证照片，我和姐姐脸上都带着同样的震惊表情。
The thing is, we never went back that year.
问题是，那一年我们再也没有回去过。
We didn't use the passes once.
我们一次都没用过通行证。
Before going, my sister and I had been sure that once we were there, we'd never want to leave.
去之前，我和姐姐就确信一旦我们到了那里，我们就再也不想离开了。
Nothing was more important than being allowed inside.
没有什么比被允许进入更重要的了。
But now that we'd actually seen what it was, it's not that we were disappointed, but it just didn't loom so big anymore.
但现在我们真正看到了它是什么，我们并不是感到失望，而是它不再那么重要了。
We kept meaning to go back, but other things kept coming up.
我们一直想回去，但其他事情不断出现。
Finally, when I was 18, I returned.
终于，在我18岁那年，我回来了。
That year, my prom was held at the Disneyland Hotel.
那一年，我的舞会在迪士尼乐园酒店举行。
Being there as a teenager with my friends, it was hard to believe it had all ever happened.
当我十几岁的时候和我的朋友们在一起时，很难相信这一切都发生过。
I didn't want anyone to find out, but I just knew the place too well.
我不想让任何人知道，但我太了解这个地方了。
At one point, one girl wondered aloud where the bathroom was.
有一次，一名女孩大声询问浴室在哪里。
"Oh, it's just down the hall about 20 paces," I said.
“哦，就在大厅下面大约 20 步远的地方，”我说。
"Past the storage room, but before the Lost and Found.
“经过储藏室，但在失物招领处之前。
Just make a left, then a right, and then another right, and you're there." Everyone stared at me, and I felt my cheeks go red.
只要向左转，然后向右转，然后再向右转，就到了。”大家都看着我，我感觉自己的脸颊都红了。
My mom, of course, initially didn't want me to go to prom at all.
当然，我妈妈最初根本不想让我去参加舞会。
She worried about some kind of accident on the road, about the limo getting a flat and a crazy person picking us up and killing us all.
她担心路上会发生什么事故，担心豪华轿车爆胎，担心有一个疯子来接我们，然后把我们都杀了。
About drinking, about my friends, about my dress, about my date.
关于喝酒，关于我的朋友，关于我的着装，关于我的约会。
The only way I was able to calm her down was when I told her where the prom was being held-- the Disneyland Hotel.
我能让她平静下来的唯一方法就是告诉她舞会的举办地点——迪士尼乐园酒店。
Her shoulders immediately untensed when I said the words.
当我说出这句话时，她的肩膀立即放松下来。
In reality, of course, sending a group of teenagers off to be by themselves in a hotel is exactly the sort of thing a parent probably should worry about.
当然，实际上，送一群青少年独自去酒店可能正是父母应该担心的事情。
And in retrospect, letting loose your daughters at six and nine years old without supervision of any kind in a hotel full of strangers and adults in masks was probably a lot more dangerous than walking across the street to take them on It's a Small, Small World.
回想起来，在一家满是陌生人和戴着口罩的成年人的酒店里，在没有任何监督的情况下让六岁和九岁的女儿离开，可能比穿过马路带她们去“小小世界”要危险得多。
But my mom never saw it that way.
但我妈妈从来不这么看。
For her, the Disneyland Hotel was always the safest place on Earth.
对她来说，迪士尼乐园酒店始终是地球上最安全的地方。
Starlee Kine.
斯塔莉·凯恩.
Coming up, an experiment in trying to reach enlightenment involving a man and six to eight ounces of vegetable broth.
即将进行的一项试图获得启蒙的实验涉及一名男子和六到八盎司的蔬菜汤。
That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International when our program continues.
一分钟后，芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
[MUSIC PLAYING] It's This American Life.
[音乐播放] 这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose some theme and bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，每周我们的节目都会选择一些主题，并为您带来有关该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's program, Promised Land.
今天的节目是《应许之地》。
Stories of people who wish to get somewhere they've never been.
讲述人们希望到达从未去过的地方的故事。
We've arrived at Act Two of our program.
我们已经到了节目的第二幕了。
Act Two.
第二幕。
Life in the Fast Lane.
生活在快车道上。
There's an ancient idea that fasting can lead to moments of enlightenment.
有一个古老的观点认为禁食可以带来启蒙时刻。
Jesus fasted for 40 days in the desert.
耶稣在沙漠中禁食了 40 天。
The Buddha fasted, as did Pythagoras and Gandhi and George Bernard Shaw.
佛陀禁食，毕达哥拉斯、甘地和萧伯纳也禁食。
Is it possible that all that stands between us and genius and insight is food?
难道我们与天才和洞察力之间的唯一障碍就是食物吗？
Well, we wanted to find out if anyone could reach this promised land, and our contributor David Rakoff agreed to be the guinea pig in a little experiment.
好吧，我们想知道是否有人能够到达这片应许之地，我们的贡献者 David Rakoff 同意成为一个小实验中的小白鼠。
He went on a 20-day fast that was 14 days with no food, three days transitioning in and out on either side to find out if he would see God-- or some variant.
他进行了 20 天的禁食，其中 14 天没有食物，三天在两侧进出，看看他是否能看到上帝——或者某种变体。
Let's start with a showstopper, shall we?
让我们从一个精彩的节目开始吧？
For the next three weeks, my path to enlightenment goes like this.
接下来的三个星期，我的开悟之路就是这样的。
I'm to wake up, head to the bathroom, and give myself an enema.
我要醒来，去洗手间，给自己灌肠。
You heard me.
你听到了。
Warm water, Chamomile tea, and eight drops of lemon juice.
温水、甘菊茶和八滴柠檬汁。
I'm to hold it in for 15 minutes, lying on a towel on the bathroom floor, passing the time by reading some sort of spiritual literature.
我要坚持15分钟，躺在浴室地板上的毛巾上，通过阅读某种精神文学来打发时间。
I opt for The New York Times.
我选择《纽约时报》。
This is followed by a shower and a breakfast of 8 to 12 ounces of clear vegetable broth.
然后淋浴并享用 8 至 12 盎司清蔬菜汤的早餐。
At other points during the day, and I cannot say exactly when because this is copyrighted proprietary information, I will consume fruit juice, vegetable juice, herbal tea, and finally, more broth just before bed.
在一天中的其他时间，我不能确切地说出什么时候，因为这是受版权保护的专有信息，我会喝果汁、蔬菜汁、花草茶，最后在睡觉前喝更多肉汤。
I'm on an extended fast.
我正在长期禁食。
I find my particular fast on the web.
我发现我在网络上特别快。
It's like a correspondence spa.
这就像一个信件水疗中心。
For about $300, I am provided with an exhaustive regimen that includes the recipe for the special broth I will be drinking, along with a schedule for the additional juices and herbal teas that I will also be drinking.
花费大约 300 美元，我就得到了一份详尽的养生法，其中包括我将要喝的特殊肉汤的配方，以及我还将喝的额外果汁和花草茶的时间表。
And I will be guided by the center's founder and president, a man I'll call Brian, based in California.
我将受到该中心的创始人兼总裁的指导，他是一位居住在加利福尼亚州的人，我将其称为布赖恩（Brian）。
I can email him with all of my questions.
我可以通过电子邮件向他提出我所有的问题。
I make sure to tell my doctor, and Ira also agrees to check in with me every now and then.
我一定要告诉我的医生，艾拉也同意时不时地来看我。
David, this is the first day of your fast.
大卫，这是你禁食的第一天。
Yes.
是的。
Ira Glass Are you very, very hungry right now?
Ira Glass 你现在非常非常饿吗？
I'm not very, very hungry.
我不是很饿。
I'm quite sleepy.
我很困了。
And I'm finding it rather difficult to talk this much.
我发现谈论这么多相当困难。
Wow!
哇！
It's taxing.
这很费劲。
David Rakoff Yeah.
大卫·拉考夫 是的。
And that kind of scares me, actually.
事实上，这让我感到害怕。
People who stop taking in carbohydrates have to make this switch from one kind of fuel to the other kind of fuel from carbohydrates to these very tiny fat cells known as ketones.
停止摄入碳水化合物的人必须从一种燃料转换为另一种燃料，从碳水化合物到这些被称为酮的非常小的脂肪细胞。
This is Dr. Lisa Sanders who, as part of a team at Yale, spent the past five years analyzing the science behind over 700 different diets.
这是丽莎·桑德斯 (Lisa Sanders) 博士，作为耶鲁大学团队的一员，她在过去五年里分析了 700 多种不同饮食背后的科学原理。
She's also written a book based on this work called The Perfect Fit Diet.
她还根据这部作品写了一本书，名为《完美健康饮食》。
On day one of the fast, she tells me my sluggishness is due to this switch from carbohydrates to ketones.
在禁食的第一天，她告诉我，我的迟缓是由于从碳水化合物转向酮类造成的。
When that happens, people feel sort of tired and out of sorts.
当这种情况发生时，人们会感到有点疲倦和不适。
Some people describe feeling a headache.
有些人描述感到头痛。
After a couple of days, people often return to feeling very normal even though they're not taking in any carbohydrates, even though they're not taking in their usual supply of gasoline.
几天后，即使人们没有摄入任何碳水化合物，也没有摄入平时供应的汽油，他们通常会恢复到非常正常的感觉。
Then people say that they don't feel hungry at all.
然后人们说他们根本不觉得饿。
There's something about ketones that kills your appetite.
酮类物质会降低你的食欲。
Food is not an issue for them anymore.
食物对他们来说不再是问题了。
What I've been reading is that, yes, they do predict a few days at the beginning where it's going to be quite difficult, and then comes a kind of a clarity, peace, and clearheadedness.
我读到的是，是的，他们确实在一开始就预测了几天会非常困难，然后就会出现一种清晰、平静和清醒的状态。
And I was wondering whether there was a physiological reason that you could think of that might account for this sort of enhanced clarity?
我想知道是否有生理原因可以解释这种清晰度的提高？
Hm.
嗯。
Well, hm.
嗯，嗯。
Let me think about that for a second.
让我想一下。
Ketones are your brain's preferred fuel.
酮是大脑的首选燃料。
So maybe there's something about that that makes people feel good.
所以也许这其中有一些让人感觉良好的东西。
The website where I bought this fast explains my changes in mood very differently.
我这么快购买的网站对我情绪变化的解释非常不同。
It is not about ketones or switching fuel sources.
这与酮或转换燃料来源无关。
It is about toxins.
这是关于毒素的。
According to my fasting center, as an urban North American living in the 21st century, I have a surpassingly toxic body with an average of 5 to 10 pounds of damaging impurities housed in my cells.
根据我的禁食中心的说法，作为一个生活在 21 世纪的北美城市，我的身体毒性极强，细胞中平均含有 5 到 10 磅的有害杂质。
My nerves and organs are apparently coated with this ubiquitous, sludgy film of judgment-clouding, character-distorting poison.
我的神经和器官显然被这种无处不在的、泥泞的薄膜覆盖着，它是一种模糊判断、扭曲性格的毒药。
Chemical fertilizers, remnants of medication, heavy metals, artificial colorings, all conspire to make me less than the best David I can be.
化肥、药物残留、重金属、人工色素，所有这些都让我无法成为最好的大卫。
Under this logic, the reason I feel so rotten to these first few days of my fast, is that as the poisons leave the relatively inert resting places they have carved out in my cells and pass through my skin and, most importantly, my colon, they will once again exert their poisonous effects.
按照这个逻辑，我在禁食的最初几天感到如此腐烂的原因是，当毒素离开它们在我的细胞中开辟的相对惰性的休息场所并穿过我的皮肤，最重要的是我的结肠时，它们将再次发挥其毒性作用。
Stuff that hurts going in will hurt coming out, I am told.
有人告诉我，进去会痛的东西出来也会痛。
And it's all about stuff coming out, so to speak.
可以这么说，这都是关于东西的出现。
Every fast I research is intensely concerned with notions of purity and cleanliness and the need to flush oneself out, whether through laxative teas and chugging a gallon of saltwater or, in my case, the enemas.
我研究的每一次禁食都与纯洁和清洁的概念以及冲洗自己的需要密切相关，无论是通过泻药茶和喝一加仑盐水，还是对我来说，灌肠。
Did I mention that I have to do a daily enema?
我有没有提到我必须每天灌肠？
The fixation is on the eradication of these supposed pollutants, 5 to 10 pounds of them.
重点是消除这些所谓的污染物，其中有 5 到 10 磅。
That is the size of a robust newborn baby.
这是一个强壮的新生婴儿的大小。
It seems like an awful lot of poison in an ostensibly healthy person.
对于一个表面上健康的人来说，这似乎是大量的毒药。
Dr. Sanders says there's little scientific proof of this.
桑德斯博士说，这方面几乎没有科学证据。
I've never seen any evidence of 5 to 10 pounds of toxins stored in our bodies.
我从未见过任何证据表明我们体内储存了 5 到 10 磅的毒素。
Most things don't do much and don't get around that much.
大多数事情并没有多大作用，也没有那么多意义。
Our cells are pretty selective about what they take up and what they don't take up as far as I know, as far as we've been able to show.
据我所知，据我们已经能够证明的，我们的细胞对它们吸收和不吸收的东西有相当的选择性。
Uh-huh.
嗯嗯。
Dr. Lisa Sanders And purification of your body, we live in a dirtier and dirtier world.
丽莎·桑德斯博士 净化你的身体，我们生活在一个越来越肮脏的世界。
And yet our lives are longer and longer.
然而我们的生命却越来越长。
Go figure.
去算算吧。
I think so.
我想是的。
I mean, there's a lot of stuff we don't know about the human body.
我的意思是，关于人体还有很多我们不知道的事情。
There's no question about it.
毫无疑问。
And so that's why I can't just out of hand say this is a whole bunch of hogwash.
所以这就是为什么我不能立即说这是一堆废话。
We should have studies.
我们应该有研究。
If this is true, then they should be able to show us that people who do this are healthier in some measurable, tangible way than people who don't do it and not just those who volunteer to do it.
如果这是真的，那么他们应该能够向我们表明，以某种可衡量的、有形的方式，这样做的人比不这样做的人（而不仅仅是那些自愿这样做的人）更健康。
Because obviously, this is going to appeal to somebody who's very interested in their health and their well-being, somebody who cares about what they eat and that they exercise correctly.
因为显然，这会吸引那些对自己的健康和福祉非常感兴趣、关心自己吃什么和正确锻炼的人。
So this is not going to be science.
所以这不会是科学。
This might be beliefs.
这或许就是信仰。
And societies are filled with beliefs about things that are good for you, that may or may not be-- that may have no scientific merit whatsoever, but that doesn't mean that they don't work.
社会上充满了关于对你有益的事情的信念，这些信念可能对你有好处，也可能没有——可能没有任何科学价值，但这并不意味着它们不起作用。
It doesn't mean that they do work either.
这并不意味着它们也有效。
The fasting program I'm on doesn't just promise weight loss, greater energy, and enhance virility, but also insight, clarity, and inner peace.
我正在进行的禁食计划不仅能减轻体重、增加能量和增强男子气概，还能带来洞察力、清晰度和内心的平静。
And to be quite frank, I could do with some inner peace.
坦白说，我需要一些内心的平静。
Well, I would not think of this as a health experiment.
嗯，我不认为这是一个健康实验。
I wouldn't think of this is a weight loss experiment.
我不认为这是一个减肥实验。
I would think of this as a spiritual experiment.
我认为这是一个精神实验。
Uh-huh.
嗯嗯。
Dr. Lisa Sanders I have to say, I read about these holy people who fast for weeks at a time and have these visions.
丽莎·桑德斯博士 我不得不说，我读到过有关这些圣人的故事，他们一次禁食数周并拥有这些异象。
And you really don't know what to do with it because you know that something happened to them, but they interpreted what happened to them through their spiritual interests.
你真的不知道该怎么办，因为你知道他们发生了什么事，但他们通过他们的精神兴趣解释了发生在他们身上的事情。
I'd be interested in seeing how a rationalist would interpret these same feelings.
我很想知道理性主义者会如何解释这些相同的感受。
I hope you see something.
我希望你能看到一些东西。
I hope you have a good experience.
我希望您有一个愉快的经历。
By day four, the day I'm supposed to have turned the corner, I am certainly feeling better.
到了第四天，也就是我本该渡过难关的那一天，我的感觉确实好多了。
I am no longer hungry, and the headaches and listlessness are largely gone.
我不再感到饥饿，头痛和无精打采也基本上消失了。
I feel more or less normal.
我感觉或多或少是正常的。
But that's it.
但仅此而已。
No brilliant shafts of light piercing the clouds, no strange hallucinatory visitations.
没有刺穿云层的明亮光束，也没有奇怪的幻觉。
By day five, I have more energy.
到了第五天，我就有了更多的精力。
I even manage to make it to the gym.
我什至设法去健身房。
On day six, I definitely feel something, although not what I expected.
第六天，我确实感觉到了一些东西，尽管不是我所期望的。
I rise early.
我起得很早。
My energy is high.
我的能量很高。
I feel great.
我感觉很棒。
I stand in the bathroom on top of the spread-out newspaper and give myself my weekly haircut.
我站在浴室里摊开的报纸上，给自己理每周的发型。
And then suddenly, my heart begins to race.
然后突然间，我的心跳开始加速。
I am overcome with a shaky weakness and the distinct feeling that I cannot trust my body to do what it is meant to do.
我被一种摇摇欲坠的虚弱感所征服，并且明显感觉到我不能相信我的身体会做它应该做的事情。
Or rather, that what my body is meant to do in that moment is to pass out and have me crack my head against the cold, unforgiving edge of the bath.
或者更确切地说，在那一刻我的身体应该做的就是昏倒，让我的头撞到冰冷无情的浴缸边缘。
I get dressed and go to see my doctor a block away.
我穿好衣服，去一个街区外去看医生。
I buy a banana on the way just in case everything goes to hell and I have to end this thing.
我在路上买了一根香蕉，以防万一一切都变得糟糕，我必须结束这件事。
My doctor takes my blood pressure and my pulse, both normal.
我的医生测量了我的血压和脉搏，均正常。
He's not crazy about the idea of me fasting, but tells me that I am essentially fine, and I return home, my fast intact, the banana uneaten.
他对我禁食的想法并不热衷，但告诉我，我基本上很好，然后我回到家，禁食完好无损，香蕉也没有吃。
I call Ira to tell him about it.
我打电话给艾拉告诉他这件事。
Now, I've got this banana, sitting on my desk like a loaded gun.
现在，我把这根香蕉放在我的桌子上，就像一把上了膛的枪。
You know, and wasn't it Chekhov who said, you know, if you introduce a gun in the first act, it's got to go off by the third.
你知道，契诃夫不是说过，你知道，如果你在第一幕中引入一把枪，到第三幕它就必须爆炸。
Here is Ira's suggestion of what to do with this taunting fruit.
以下是艾拉关于如何处理这种嘲讽水果的建议。
Maybe it's just the fast, but he seems to be talking double quick.
也许只是速度太快了，但他说话的速度似乎加倍快。
Throw it out the window.
把它扔出窗外。
David Rakoff No, I think what I'm going to do is--
大卫·拉科夫 不，我想我要做的是——
Throw it out the window.
把它扔出窗外。
David Rakoff Well, Ira, I live on a street.
大卫·拉科夫 嗯，艾拉，我住在一条街上。
Throwing it out a window could hit somebody.
将其扔出窗外可能会击中某人。
It's actually against the law probably.
这实际上可能是违法的。
You live on the first floor.
你住在一楼。
Throw it out the window.
把它扔出窗外。
I don't live on the first floor.
我不住在一楼。
This is fascinating.
这很有趣。
Should I be wearing anything special when I throw it out the window?
当我把它扔出窗外时，我应该穿一些特别的衣服吗？
Does it make you feel safer to have the banana there?
把香蕉放在那里会让你感觉更安全吗？
Or is the banana taunting you, like seeing--
或者香蕉是在嘲笑你，就像看到——
The banana is not really taunting me.
香蕉并不是真的在嘲笑我。
There was a point when I thought this morning-- well, I thought a few things and I thought, well, that's it.
今天早上我有一个想法——好吧，我想了一些事情，然后我想，好吧，就是这样。
It's over.
结束了。
And then I thought, ah!
然后我想，啊！
Back to the world of food, of interest and diversion.
回到美食、兴趣和消遣的世界。
Yahoo!
雅虎！
But then I felt like a failure and kind of back to square one, like oh God!
但后来我感觉自己像个失败者，又回到了原点，天啊！
Now, how am I going to get through another week of this?
现在，我该如何度过这又一周呢？
Well, it's time for me to make my broth.
好了，我该煮汤了。
I have to make this every two days or so.
我必须每两天左右做一次。
It serves to provide me with electrolytes so that your heart doesn't stop.
它可以为我提供电解质，这样你的心脏就不会停止跳动。
I was thinking about this lack of enlightenment, but I'm feeling and I sort of thought like I was that woman in the movie Manhattan who was at a party and she says to Woody Allen something like I finally had an orgasm, and my analyst told me it was the wrong kind.
我在思考这种缺乏启蒙的问题，但我的感觉和想法就像是电影《曼哈顿》中的那个女人，她在一个聚会上对伍迪·艾伦说，好像我终于达到了性高潮，而我的分析师告诉我，这是错误的类型。
I just fell like how come all the other kids are getting enlightened and I'm not?
我只是觉得为什么其他孩子都开悟了而我却没有？
Day nine.
第九天。
Here's something else I'm not feeling, something Ira keeps egging me on about.
还有一些事情我没有感觉，是艾拉一直怂恿我的。
Am I walking around, he wants to know, an ethereal creature of light and air, passing by the falafel stand, for example, and looking disdainfully from my slender Olympian perch at the weak-willed humans who feel the need to stuff their gullets with something as earthbound and disgusting as solid nourishment?
他想知道，我是不是在四处走动，是一种光与空气的空灵生物，例如，路过沙拉三明治摊位，从我纤细的奥林匹斯山栖息处轻蔑地看着那些意志薄弱的人类，他们觉得有必要用一些像固体食物一样泥土和恶心的东西塞进他们的喉咙？
Not really, as it turns out.
事实证明并非如此。
This fast hasn't lessened my usual feelings of venality and guilt.
这种禁食并没有减轻我一贯的唯利是图和内疚感。
If anything, they've increased a little because my days are taken up in this narcissistic rumination about my intake and my output.
如果说有什么不同的话，那就是它们增加了一点，因为我的时间都花在了对我的摄入和产出的自恋沉思上。
Between the hours of making the broth and the enemas, this is one of the most self-obsessed things I have ever done in my life.
在煮肉汤和灌肠的时间之间，这是我一生中做过的最自恋的事情之一。
And I say that as a first-person journalist.
我是作为第一人称记者这么说的。
One night on the subway, I see a woman at the end of the car.
一天晚上，在地铁上，我看到车尾有一位女士。
She leans over to the people sitting next to her and asks in a quiet friendly, almost business-like tone, "Do you have any extra food I can buy off of you?" I can only hear her because the train is silent.
她向坐在她旁边的人倾身，用一种安静友好、近乎公事公办的语气问道：“我可以从你们那里买点额外的食物吗？”我只能听到她的声音，因为火车上很安静。
She isn't standing in the middle of the car addressing us.
她没有站在车中央向我们讲话。
She's just asking those within earshot.
她只是在询问那些听得见的人。
I walk over and give the woman a dollar before I get off at Union Square.
在联合广场下车之前，我走过去给了那位女士一美元。
"But do you have any extra food?" she asks me.
“不过你还有多余的食物吗？”她问我。
I apologize and say that I do not have any extra food.
我道歉并说我没有多余的食物。
But I know in that moment that there is neither clarity nor serenity enough in the world that would give me the chutzpah to tell her why not.
但我知道在那一刻，世界上没有足够的清晰和平静让我有勇气告诉她为什么不。
Day 11.
第 11 天。
Brian advises everyone on the fast to keep it to themselves and not tell too many people.
布莱恩建议每个人在禁食时不要告诉太多人。
What I will find, I am told, is that those who know I am fasting will project their own worries or anti-fasting prejudices onto me, saying things like "you look too thin," whereas those who have no idea will simply think I look healthy and great.
有人告诉我，我会发现，那些知道我禁食的人会把自己的担忧或反禁食的偏见投射到我身上，说“你看起来太瘦了”之类的话，而那些不知道的人只会认为我看起来健康而伟大。
It seems true.
看来是真的。
My friends who do know I am fasting think I look gaunt.
知道我禁食的朋友们都认为我看起来很憔悴。
But then I go to synagogue for the baby-naming service of some friends' twins.
但后来我去犹太教堂参加一些朋友双胞胎的婴儿命名仪式。
I've lost 12 pounds.
我减掉了 12 磅。
I wait for the compliments.
我等待着赞美。
I find out later that someone asked my friend Jeff, does David have cancer?
后来我发现有人问我的朋友杰夫，大卫得了癌症吗？
Captain's log.
船长的日志。
I wonder if this is something.
我想知道这是不是有什么。
I'm curiously relaxed, as if my bones have been removed.
我出奇地放松，仿佛我的骨头被移除了。
How can I explain this?
我该如何解释这一点？
It is as if I have taken an anti-anxiety pill.
就好像我吃了一颗抗焦虑药。
I am aware of my problems and the things that concern me.
我知道我的问题和与我有关的事情。
Intellectually, they can still freak me out.
从理智上讲，他们仍然可以让我感到害怕。
But my physical anxiety response is gone.
但我的身体焦虑反应消失了。
On the street, a bike messenger zooms by dangerously close to me, nearly shearing off my kneecaps.
在街上，一名自行车送信员从我身边危险地飞驰而过，差点把我的膝盖骨割断。
I can only mutter, "Jerk," where once I might have hissed it.
我只能嘀咕“混蛋”，以前我可能会发出嘶嘶声。
I cannot work myself up into a lather.
我不能把自己弄得起泡沫。
Do I think, oh, hello, God's creature, fellow and bicycled human.
我是否认为，哦，你好，上帝的创造物，同胞和骑自行车的人类。
Come ride freely.
来自由骑行吧。
Let the wind carry you like a seedling, like a bird?
让风带着你像幼苗、像小鸟一样？
No. What I thought was, jerk, I hope you are crushed beneath the wheels of a bus.
不，我的想法是，混蛋，我希望你被压在公共汽车的车轮下。
But the difference was the venom that pulsed through my veins now had the restful back-and-forth rush of the ocean's waves.
但不同的是，在我血管中搏动的毒液现在有了海浪般平静的来回奔腾的感觉。
It's a pleasant feeling, certainly, but hardly seems worth the effort of weeks without food.
当然，这是一种令人愉快的感觉，但似乎不值得几周不吃东西。
If this is all there is, then I hate to say it, but Miss Peggy Lee was kind of right.
如果这就是全部，那么我不想这么说，但佩吉·李小姐是对的。
Day 13 without food.
第13天，没有进食。
It is the home stretch of the fast, and I have lost 14 pounds.
这是断食的最后冲刺阶段，我已经减掉了 14 磅。
I'm not hungry, but I am experiencing appetite.
我不饿，但我有食欲。
I find myself thinking about food a lot, cooking it almost more than eating it.
我发现自己对食物的思考很多，烹饪它几乎比吃它还要多。
I pour through books and surf the web for recipes: roast goose with prunes, brown butter madeleines, candied grapefruit peel, precisely the kind of oldy-worldy delicacies Hans Christian Andersen's Little Match Girl saw dancing before her eyes before she froze to death on the Copenhagen street.
我翻遍书本，上网寻找菜谱：李子烤鹅、棕色黄油玛德琳蛋糕、蜜饯柚子皮，正是安徒生笔下卖火柴的小女孩在哥本哈根街头冻死之前亲眼所见的那种老式美食。
On the final day of fasting, I bound out of my house, a brilliantly blue and freezing day.
禁食的最后一天，我走出家门，那是一个蔚蓝而寒冷的日子。
I am feeling jaunty and alive, like a character in the movie who, newly in love, walks through the streets he thought he knew, only to find them vibrant and full of beautiful humanity, and he, a wonderful part of it all.
我感到欢快而充满活力，就像电影中的一个角色，刚刚坠入爱河，走过他以为自己熟悉的街道，却发现它们充满活力，充满了美丽的人性，而他，是这一切中美妙的一部分。
He dances for a group of French children.
他为一群法国孩子跳舞。
He smiles with friendly commiseration at a young couple, flirts nonthreateningly with an old lady, telling her, "Madam, you smell delicious." He tips his hat to the cop.
他对一对年轻夫妇友好而同情地微笑，与一位老太太毫无威胁地调情，告诉她：“女士，你闻起来很香。”他向警察脱帽致意。
But it is not universal brotherhood that has me jazzed as I dance along.
但让我跳舞时感到兴奋的并不是普遍的兄弟情谊。
What I am thinking to myself is, hello world!
我心里想的是，你好世界！
Tomorrow I eat an apple!
明天我吃一个苹果！
My high spirits are tempered with something else, though.
不过，我的高昂情绪却受到了其他事情的影响。
A sheepishness that I have somehow failed to receive the thing that I should have, and here I am already out the door, and it's too late.
羞愧的是我不知何故未能收到我应该得到的东西，而我已经出了门，但已经太晚了。
When I tell Brian that I feel good but not markedly different, he doesn't hesitate to tell me that my experience is atypical.
当我告诉布莱恩我感觉很好，但没有明显不同时，他毫不犹豫地告诉我，我的经历是非典型的。
From Brian's perspective, I didn't approach this with an open mind.
从布莱恩的角度来看，我并没有以开放的心态对待这个问题。
I need to talk to someone who's managed to achieve what I did not.
我需要和一个成功实现了我没有实现的目标的人交谈。
I compare notes with Amy Warren, who has fasted five times.
我与艾米·沃伦（Amy Warren）交换意见，她已经禁食了五次。
When I read the pamphlet, initially I was like, oh, this is all about cleansing and getting rid of toxins that have been building up in your system.
当我读到这本小册子时，最初我想，哦，这都是关于清洁和消除系统中积聚的毒素的。
And I found that first time I did the fast, that was the most satisfying in terms of feeling that the toxins were leaving my body.
我发现第一次禁食时，感觉毒素正在离开我的身体，这是最令人满意的。
What form did it take?
它采取了什么形式？
Amy Warren Well, is it appropriate to talk about on the radio?
艾米·沃伦 嗯，在广播中谈论合适吗？
I mean, it might sound really insane and gross.
我的意思是，这听起来可能真的很疯狂和恶心。
But the stuff that would come out of you, you would be, like, where-- what is that?
但是从你身上出来的东西，你会，比如，那是什么？
You wouldn't even know what it was.
你甚至不知道那是什么。
It looked like from a movie, like, it looked like unreal.
看起来就像电影里的一样，看起来不真实。
I was just going to say, by a movie, you don't mean Room with a View?
我只是想说，你所说的电影不是指《看得见风景的房间》吗？
No. I mean a movie like in Star Wars where in that sewer and the water and all that sludge and slime and weird bubbly things, and just misshapened, odd-- what is that?
不，我的意思是像《星球大战》中那样的电影，那里的下水道、水、所有的污泥、粘液和奇怪的泡沫状的东西，而且畸形、奇怪——那是什么？
It's all there, and it comes out of you.
一切都在那里，而且都是从你那里出来的。
And then you're like, what?
然后你就会想，什么？
And when everything's running clear, like water from a faucet, you feel like you're new, like you're a new person.
当一切都变得清澈时，就像水龙头里的水一样，你会感觉自己焕然一新，就像换了一个人一样。
And you feel like you're sexy and like alive.
你会感觉自己很性感，而且充满活力。
And you feel like you're somehow your highest self.
你感觉自己在某种程度上是最高的自我。
There's nothing you couldn't do.
没有什么是你做不到的。
Really?
真的吗？
Amy Warren In terms of your life and your goals and everything, you feel sort of focused and clarified and like you know what you want to do, and you feel like you could do anything.
艾米·沃伦（Amy Warren）就你的生活、你的目标和一切而言，你感觉有点专注和清晰，就像你知道自己想做什么，你觉得你可以做任何事情。
You feel empowered.
你感觉自己充满了力量。
Really?
真的吗？
Wow!
哇！
I did it wrong.
我做错了。
Amy Warren Oh, no, you didn't do it wrong at all.
艾米·沃伦哦，不，你根本没有做错。
I think I did, but it's OK.
我想我做到了，但没关系。
But I didn't feel that clarity.
但我并没有感觉到那么清晰。
I mean, I feel good.
我的意思是，我感觉很好。
But I feel just as good when I've had a tiny bit of caffeine and, you know, that it's exactly it, and I've exercised or something.
但当我喝了一点咖啡因时，我感觉同样好，你知道，正是这样，而且我锻炼了或者做其他什么。
So I don't really know.
所以我真的不知道。
I feel like everybody's like, oh, where were you?
我觉得每个人都会说，哦，你在哪里？
Paris.
巴黎。
Oh, did you see the Eiffel Tower?
哦，你看到埃菲尔铁塔了吗？
Or the Louvre?
还是卢浮宫？
The Louvre, I couldn't see that.
卢浮宫，我没看到。
That somehow, I managed to miss everything.
不知何故，我设法错过了一切。
They would say like, oh, well, how was the food?
他们会说，哦，好吧，食物怎么样？
Was it wonderful?
很棒吗？
Well, there was a vending machine and some Junior Mints.
嗯，有一台自动售货机和一些薄荷糖。
In a little unscientific survey conducted by the producers of this show, calling around to friends, and friends of friends who'd fasted, and even four people who specifically did my fast, albeit for much longer, they found that everyone felt great physically, energetic and alert, and nearly everybody spoke about a clarity of mind.
在这个节目的制作人进行的一项不科学的调查中，他们打电话给我的朋友、朋友的朋友，甚至是专门为我禁食的四个人，尽管时间更长，但他们发现每个人都感觉身体很好，精力充沛，警觉，几乎每个人都表示头脑清晰。
But only one person seemed to feel more than that.
但似乎只有一个人的感受不止于此。
This woman said that for a moment while driving, her spirit was filled up and she was overcome with a sense of total well-being, of a level and profundity she'd never felt before.
这位女士说，在开车的那一刻，她的精神被充满了，她被一种完全的幸福感所征服，这是她以前从未感受过的水平和深度。
Amy's experience was more typical.
艾米的经历更为典型。
When I first started doing it, I was thinking like, yeah, I'm going to-- it's going to be like spiritual nirvana.
当我第一次开始这样做时，我在想，是的，我会——这会像精神上的涅槃。
I'm going to recognize the universe in a way that I've never recognized the universe.
我将以一种我从未认识过的方式认识宇宙。
But I really feel like that expectation, you know, it was-- it never happened.
但我真的感觉到那种期望，你知道，它从未发生过。
It never happened?
从来没有发生过？
Amy Warren No. Not in a way that I would have sort of expected it to.
艾米·沃伦（Amy Warren） 不。不是以我所期望的方式。
I mean, I did definitely-- I always felt a sense of clarity and focus, different than any other time in my life, but I never felt like it was a religious or spiritual thing.
我的意思是，我确实做到了——我总是感觉到一种清晰和专注的感觉，与我生命中的任何其他时候都不同，但我从来没有觉得这是一种宗教或精神上的事情。
It's Wednesday morning at about 7:30, and today is the apple.
现在是周三早上 7:30 左右，今天是苹果。
On the first day I'm allowed to eat, before I have my apple, I'm supposed to mix a tablespoon of bran and flaxseed into the broth.
在我被允许吃饭的第一天，在我吃苹果之前，我应该将一汤匙麸皮和亚麻籽混合到肉汤中。
It makes it as thick as porridge, and it knocks me out.
它使它像粥一样浓稠，让我晕倒。
OK, it's an hour and a half later.
好吧，一个半小时过去了。
I hadn't thought that eating would be quite this difficult.
没想到吃饭竟然这么难。
And I suppose I'd better try and eat this apple.
我想我最好尝试吃这个苹果。
It's very strange.
这很奇怪。
I looked forward to it for so long, and now it just feels like a little bit of an ordeal.
我期待了这么久，现在感觉有点煎熬。
All right.
好的。
[BITES AN APPLE AND CHEWS] Here I am, chewing fruit again.
[咬苹果并咀嚼]我在这里，又咀嚼水果了。
I almost feel like I was never away from it.
我几乎感觉自己从未远离过它。
Right when I started the fast, I had the briefest romantic notion that it wouldn't just work, but it really would be the magic bullet.
当我开始禁食时，我有一个最短暂的浪漫想法：它不仅有效，而且确实是灵丹妙药。
I entertained the fantasy that the fast would short-circuit logic, and somehow, my problems, such as they are, didn't need the talk and the scrutiny.
我幻想着禁食会使逻辑短路，不知何故，我的问题，就像它们一样，不需要谈论和审查。
They needed this.
他们需要这个。
There was even a moment where I could see my problems, feel them, impacted and concentrated into a grey, plaque-like obstruction.
甚至有那么一刻，我可以看到我的问题，感觉到它们，受到影响并集中成一个灰色的、斑块状的障碍物。
A thick, squat blockage the shape and size of a scallop somewhere in the channels of my body.
在我身体的某个部位，有一个厚厚的、矮胖的堵塞物，其形状和大小就像扇贝一样。
And I thought that this was the way that they would be pulverized and broken up and flushed away.
我认为这就是它们被粉碎、破碎和冲走的方式。
Now that I've finished the fast and am on the other side, it's hard to remember exactly what I was waiting for, although I do know that it was something wholly unfamiliar and thrilling, like a new color, one I'd never seen before.
现在我已经完成了禁食并到达了另一边，很难确切地记得我在等待什么，尽管我确实知道那是完全陌生和令人兴奋的东西，就像一种新的颜色，一种我以前从未见过的颜色。
Not a mixture, no trace of blue or yellow or red.
不是混合物，没有蓝色、黄色或红色的痕迹。
What would that look like?
那会是什么样子？
Even though our physical world makes the existence of such a thing basically impossible, I'd still really like to see that.
尽管我们的物质世界使得这种东西的存在基本上不可能，但我仍然很想看到这一点。
David Rakoff.
大卫·拉考夫.
He's put the story of his fast into his brand-new book Don't Get Too Comfortable.
他将禁食的故事写进了他的全新书《别太舒服》中。
[MUSIC - "EAT IT" BY WEIRD AL YANKOVIC]
[音乐 - 怪异阿尔扬科维奇的“吃掉它”]
Act Three.
第三幕。
Mystery Train.
神秘列车。
We close our show today with the story of two people, each earning for certain future, though not necessarily the same future.
我们今天以两个人的故事来结束我们的节目，每个人都为特定的未来而赚钱，尽管不一定是同一个未来。
Hillary Frank remembers the story.
希拉里·弗兰克还记得这个故事。
The lights were out.
灯灭了。
We were stopped on the tracks, and Danielle wasn't happy.
我们被停在铁轨上，丹妮尔很不高兴。
"All I wanted," she said, "was to have McDonald's with my boyfriend." It was supposed to be their big Friday night in Boston.
“我只想和男朋友一起吃麦当劳，”她说。这本来应该是他们在波士顿度过的重要星期五之夜。
They were sitting diagonally behind me.
他们坐在我斜后方。
Danielle and her boyfriend Donny had gotten on the train in Providence a few stops after mine.
丹妮尔和她的男朋友唐尼在普罗维登斯上车，比我晚了几站。
Eavesdropping in the dark, I learned their names, that they were 15-- four years younger than me-- and that they were surprised to see the girl sitting by the window behind me.
在黑暗中偷听，我得知了他们的名字，他们 15 岁——比我小四岁——而且他们很惊讶地看到坐在我身后窗边的女孩。
Donny's surprise was pleasant.
唐尼的惊讶令人愉快。
"Man, Cynthia, I didn't expect to run into you," and Danielle's was more like, "yeah, didn't think I'd run into you."
“伙计，辛西娅，我没想到会遇到你，”丹妮尔更像是，“是的，没想到我会遇到你。”
Other than an elderly couple in the back, we were the only people in the car.
车上除了后排的一对老夫妇，就只有我们两个人了。
Cynthia told them it was her 18th birthday.
辛西娅告诉他们今天是她 18 岁生日。
She invited Danielle and Donny to the party her sister was throwing for her in Boston.
她邀请丹妮尔和唐尼参加她姐姐在波士顿为她举办的聚会。
"I'll get you good and wasted," she told them.
“我会让你们变得更好，然后浪费掉，”她告诉他们。
Donny practically cheered.
唐尼几乎欢呼起来。
Danielle must have punched him because he winced out loud.
丹妮尔一定是打了他，因为他大声皱起了眉头。
"I ain't doin' none of that," she said.
“我什么也没做，”她说。
"Yeah, you are," Donny teased.
“是的，你就是，”唐尼戏弄道。
"You're gettin' doped." "Am not," she said.
“你吸毒了。” “不是，”她说。
"You know I can't do that.
“你知道我不能这么做。
None of it.
都没有。
You know." "Come on," Cynthia prodded.
你知道。” “来吧，”辛西娅催促道。
"It'll make your man happy." "No," Danielle repeated.
“这会让你的男人高兴。” “不，”丹妮尔重复道。
She sounded like she was going to cry.
她听起来像是要哭了。
"I can't.
“我不能。
I can't."
我不能。”
The lights came back on.
灯又亮了。
The engine revved, and we inched along the tracks.
引擎加速，我们沿着铁轨缓缓前行。
Everyone sat quietly for a minute.
每个人都安静地坐了一分钟。
Cynthia spoke first.
辛西娅首先发言。
"How long you been together?" "Five months," Danielle answered.
“你们在一起多久了？” “五个月，”丹妮尔回答。
Cynthia seemed to be working up to something.
辛西娅似乎正在做某事。
"How long have you known?" "Three months," Danielle said quietly.
“你知道多久了？” “三个月。”丹妮尔轻声说道。
Cynthia's seat creaked.
辛西娅的座位吱吱作响。
"I was once, too," she told Danielle.
“我也曾经是，”她告诉丹妮尔。
"A couple years ago." Pregnant, I thought.
“几年前。”怀孕了，我想。
We were back up to speed.
我们又恢复了速度。
The conductor poked his head into our car to tell us we'd been delayed because some juveniles had placed shopping carts on the tracks.
售票员把头伸进车里告诉我们，我们被延误了，因为一些青少年把购物车放在了铁轨上。
It seemed strange for him to be using the word juveniles when we were all teenagers ourselves.
当我们自己都是青少年时，他使用“青少年”这个词似乎很奇怪。
Cynthia asked Donny if he loved Danielle.
辛西娅问唐尼是否爱丹妮尔。
"Of course I love her," he said.
“我当然爱她，”他说。
"She's mine." "If you really did, then you wouldn't have kissed Angel," Danielle snapped.
“她是我的。” “如果你真的这么做了，那么你就不会亲吻安吉尔了，”丹妮尔厉声说道。
"Angel?" Cynthia asked.
“天使？”辛西娅问道。
She scooted over to the aisle seat.
她快步走到靠过道的座位上。
"Yeah," Danielle said.
“是的，”丹妮尔说。
"He kissed her two weeks ago, even when he knew she had AIDS." "Not a real kiss," Donny said.
“两周前他吻了她，即使他知道她患有艾滋病。” “不是真正的吻，”唐尼说。
"What do you mean not a real kiss?" Cynthia asked.
“你说不是真正的吻是什么意思？”辛西娅问道。
"It was nothing," he told her.
“没什么，”他告诉她。
"Yeah right.
“是啊，没错。
Nothing," Danielle shot back.
没什么，”丹妮尔反驳道。
Cynthia leaned over the aisle towards Donny.
辛西娅在过道上向唐尼倾身。
"Show me," she said.
“给我看看，”她说。
"Show you what?" Cynthia slid back to the window seat and patted the cushion beside her.
“给你看什么？”辛西娅滑回靠窗的座位，拍拍身边的垫子。
"Show me how you kissed Angel," she told him.
“让我看看你是如何亲吻安吉尔的，”她告诉他。
As Donnie crossed the aisle, Danielle yelled at him.
当唐尼穿过过道时，丹妮尔对他大喊大叫。
"Don't show her!
“别给她看！
Tell her!" "It's OK," Cynthia said calmly.
告诉她！” “没关系，”辛西娅平静地说。
"I mean no disrespect.
“我的意思是没有不尊重的意思。
Say it with me, no disrespect." "Fine," Danielle mumbled through clenched teeth.
跟我说吧，别无礼。” “好吧。”丹妮尔咬紧牙关咕哝道。
"No disrespect." "So show me," Cynthia said.
“没有不尊重的意思。” “那就告诉我吧，”辛西娅说。
There was a soft smooching sound, which must have been a peck on the cheek, because both of the girls shouted "No way!" in unison.
传来一阵轻柔的亲吻声，那肯定是在脸颊上轻吻的声音，因为两个女孩都喊道：“不行！”异口同声。
"I know that's not how he did it," Danielle said.
“我知道他不是这么做的，”丹妮尔说。
Cynthia laughed.
辛西娅笑了。
"Show me for real," she commanded.
“让我看看真实的，”她命令道。
Tonguey mouth smacks were followed by Danielle tearing at Donny's back.
丹妮尔用舌头咂嘴，然后撕扯唐尼的背。
There was slapping and whining verging on tears, and Cynthia's voice saying, "Chill, girl.
耳边响起掌声和近乎泪水的哀嚎，辛西娅的声音说：“冷静点，女孩。
I stuck my tongue in his mouth, not the other way around," as if that made it OK.
我把舌头伸进他嘴里，而不是相反，”好像这样就可以了。
Then she added, "You kissed Angel like that?
然后她补充道：“你就这样吻了安吉尔？
You can't love this one that much."
你不可能那么爱这个人。”
It went on like this for around 20 minutes.
这样的情况持续了大约20分钟。
Cynthia asking Donny if he'd ever cheat on Danielle.
辛西娅问唐尼是否会背叛丹妮尔。
Donny saying no. Cynthia saying, "You wouldn't?
唐尼说不。辛西娅说：“你不会吗？
Even if I did this to you?" Donnie buckling to temptation, and Danielle grumbling in her corner with occasional outbursts of fury.
就算我对你做了这种事？”唐尼屈服于诱惑，丹妮尔则在角落里抱怨，偶尔会爆发愤怒。
Finally, Cynthia stopped her come-ons and said, "You are sick.
最后，辛西娅停止了她的挑逗，说道：“你有病。
You would do all that with me and you say you love her?" "But I do," Donny said uncertainly.
你愿意对我做这一切，还说你爱她？” “但我愿意，”唐尼不确定地说。
"I'm going to be with her 'til the day I die." "You should dump him," Cynthia told Danielle.
“我会一直陪着她，直到我死去的那一天。” “你应该甩掉他，”辛西娅告诉丹妮尔。
Then she asked Donny if he had a place to stay.
然后她问唐尼是否有地方住。
Danielle answered for him.
丹妮尔替他回答。
"25 Maple Street with me and my mom." "Well, if that ever changes," Cynthia said, "you'll always have a place in Boston at my sister's apartment.
“枫树街 25 号，我和妈妈一起。” “好吧，如果情况发生变化，”辛西娅说，“你在波士顿我姐姐的公寓里永远会有一个位置。
You can see it right now if you come to the party."
如果你来参加聚会，你现在就可以看到它。”
The train slowed as we entered Back Bay station.
当我们进入后湾站时，火车放慢了速度。
"We're going," Donny announced.
“我们走了，”唐尼宣布。
"I'm going to McDonald's," Danielle said.
“我要去麦当劳，”丹妮尔说。
"Girl, come on.
“姑娘，来吧。
It'll be fun," Cynthia said.
这会很有趣，”辛西娅说。
"She's going," Donny said.
“她要走了，”唐尼说。
"She's going and gettin' so doped." "Am not." They were still going back and forth like this by the time we got off the train.
“她要走了，而且喝得很醉。” “我不是。”当我们下车时，他们还在这样来回走动。
I stood there watching them on the platform, wondering what Danielle would end up doing.
我站在站台上看着他们，想知道丹妮尔最终会做什么。
I still think of her sometimes.
我有时仍然会想起她。
I end the evening in my head.
我在脑海里结束了这个夜晚。
On bad days, Danielle goes to the party.
心情不好的时候，丹妮尔会去参加聚会。
She watches Donny drink spiked punch and smoke pot and maybe settle into a corner with a cute girl in a halter top.
她看着唐尼喝着尖刺潘趣酒，抽着烟壶，也许还会和一个穿着吊带衫的可爱女孩坐在角落里。
Sometimes she winds up at McDonald's by herself, washing down a big Mac and supersized fries with a chocolate milkshake.
有时她会独自去麦当劳，吃下巨无霸、超大薯条和巧克力奶昔。
But on good days, Danielle crosses the tracks, sits quietly on a bench, and waits for the next train back to Providence.
但天气好的时候，丹妮尔会穿过铁轨，安静地坐在长凳上，等待下一趟返回普罗维登斯的火车。
Hillary Frank is the author of the novels Better Than Running at Night and I Can't Tell You.
希拉里·弗兰克是小说《比夜跑更好》和《我不能告诉你》的作者。
[MUSIC - "WITH ARMS OUTSTRETCHED" BY RILO KILEY]
[音乐 - RILO KILEY 的《伸出双臂》]
Our program was produced today by Diane Cook and myself with Alex Blumberg, Jane Feltes, and Sarah Koenig.
今天我们的节目由黛安·库克和我本人以及亚历克斯·布隆伯格、简·费尔特斯和莎拉·科尼格制作。
Our senior producer is Julie Snyder.
我们的高级制片人是朱莉·斯奈德。
Elizabeth Meister runs our website.
伊丽莎白·梅斯特 (Elizabeth Meister) 负责运营我们的网站。
Production now from Todd Bachmann, [?
托德·巴赫曼 (Todd Bachmann) 现在制作，[?
Kelsey Betts, and ?] Chris Ladd.
凯尔西·贝茨和？]克里斯·拉德。
Music for our original "I Wish" song at the top of today's program was composed and perform by Mr. Brian Morris.
今天节目开头的原创歌曲“I Wish”的音乐是由布莱恩·莫里斯先生创作并演唱的。
Thanks to Mary Gaffney for recording that for us.
感谢玛丽·加夫尼为我们录制了这段视频。
Thanks also to Beth Miller, Karen Gardner, Michael Saw, Tom Stempel, Andreas Buchinger, Dennis Paulson, Jorge Just, and Carrie Willis.
还要感谢 Beth Miller、Karen Gardner、Michael Saw、Tom Stempel、Andreas Buchinger、Dennis Paulson、Jorge Just 和 Carrie Willis。
Our website: www.thisamericanlife.org, where you can listen to our programs for absolutely free or buy CDs of them.
我们的网站：www.thisamericanlife.org，您可以在其中完全免费收听我们的节目或购买节目 CD。
Or you know you can download today's program in our archives at audible.com/thisamericanlife.
或者您知道可以在我们的档案库中下载今天的节目：audible.com/thisamericanlife。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight for our program by Mr. Torey Malatia, who mysteriously says to me every morning when he sees me at the office, "Madam, you smell delicious!" I'm Ira Glass.
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理部门由 Torey Malatia 先生负责监督我们的项目，他每天早上在办公室看到我时都会神秘地对我说：“女士，你闻起来很香！”我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
[MUSIC - "YOU'RE CRAZY FOR TAKING THE BUS" BY JONATHAN RICHMAN]
[音乐 - 乔纳森·里奇曼的《你疯狂地想坐公交车》]
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。