239: Lost in America - This American Life
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Prologue Ira Glass So many of us, we wander through this country.
序言 艾拉·格拉斯 我们很多人都在这个国家漫步。
We wander through our lives.
我们在自己的一生中徘徊。
We wander in darkness.
我们在黑暗中徘徊。
Often we feel lost.
我们常常感到失落。
Like Chris.
就像克里斯一样。
He was doing pretty badly.
他做得很糟糕。
Living on the street.
住在街上。
Hair to his shoulders.
头发齐肩。
I called it the Unabomber look.
我把它称为“大学轰炸机”造型。
I was just living in the woods.
我只是住在树林里。
Just an open wooded area at the corner of Pond Drive and Route 347.
位于 Pond Drive 和 347 号公路拐角处的一片开阔林地。
I'd have fresh clothes on usually, but I only could do the wash every so often, and they were outside, so I smelled like the great outdoors, whether I liked that fact or not.
我通常会穿干净的衣服，但我只能偶尔洗一次，而且它们在外面，所以我闻起来像户外的味道，不管我是否喜欢这个事实。
And I very much knew I needed medical help.
我非常清楚我需要医疗帮助。
So Chris needed this medical help, but of course, he had no money to pay for the medical help.
所以克里斯需要这种医疗帮助，但当然，他没有钱支付医疗帮助。
He made money collecting cans and bottles on the street.
他在街上收集罐头和瓶子赚钱。
Whenever he'd go to doctors or social services, he was so wacked-out looking that they wouldn't even talk to him like a person.
每当他去看医生或去社会服务机构时，他看起来都很精神错乱，以至于他们甚至不会像一个人一样和他说话。
They wouldn't even look him in the eye.
他们甚至不会看他的眼睛。
It's a hell of a thing, isn't it?
这是一件很糟糕的事情，不是吗？
Wanting eye contact, not getting it.
想要目光接触，却得不到。
But then if you're lucky, somebody puts up the lights.
但如果你幸运的话，有人会点亮灯。
[AUDIENCE CLAPPING] Welcome.
[观众鼓掌]欢迎。
WBEZ Chicago.
WBEZ 芝加哥。
It's This American Life, distributed by Public Radio International.
《这就是美国生活》，由国际公共广播电台发行。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Our program today recorded on a live tour of five cities: Boston, Washington DC, Portland, Oregon, Denver, and our hometown, Chicago.
我们今天的节目录制了五个城市的现场巡演：波士顿、华盛顿特区、波特兰、俄勒冈州、丹佛和我们的家乡芝加哥。
[AUDIENCE CHEERING] So Chris was stuck.
[观众欢呼]所以克里斯被困住了。
He needed money to go to a doctor.
他需要钱去看医生。
And then he got this idea.
然后他有了这个想法。
He remembered how a couple years before that, he had wandered off the street into a shopping mall to get warm, and there the State of New York had set up two laptop computers on a folding table.
他记得几年前，他从街上溜达到一家购物中心取暖，纽约州在折叠桌上放置了两台笔记本电脑。
And to see the lady just look at me, nod her head, and smile when I walked up to the booth, like I was just one of anybody, was great.
当我走向展位时，看到那位女士只是看着我，点点头，微笑着，就像我只是其他人中的一员一样，真是太棒了。
So he sits down at the computers, and on these two computers you could look up your name and see whether the state was holding money for you that you did not know about.
于是他坐在电脑前，在这两台电脑上你可以查询你的名字，看看国家是否为你持有你不知道的钱。
And there was all sorts of money.
还有各种各样的钱。
Utility bill refunds, tax refunds, lost checks, owed to all sorts of people and institutions.
水电费退款、退税、丢失支票、欠各种人和机构的款项。
Lost money.
丢了钱。
Or not even lost, since most people didn't even know it was missing.
或者甚至没有丢失，因为大多数人甚至不知道它丢失了。
This is like money in purgatory.
这就像炼狱里的钱一样。
This is money in limbo.
这是悬而未决的钱。
And thinking about all this, Chris Sewell realized how he could pay for his doctors.
考虑到这一切，克里斯·休厄尔意识到他如何支付医生的费用。
He would look online, find money of theirs that they did not know about, money that the state was holding for them, and then he would present that to them.
他会在网上查找，找到他们不知道的钱，国家为他们持有的钱，然后他会把这些钱呈现给他们。
Well, I was hoping that I would suddenly get a couple of phone calls and a couple of checks, and people say, "oh, wow, thanks for having done this." And then I was hoping that these doctors would just even talk to me in a civil manner.
好吧，我希望我会突然接到几个电话和几张支票，人们会说：“哦，哇，谢谢你做了这件事。”然后我希望这些医生能够以文明的方式与我交谈。
And then work my way up from there.
然后从那里开始我的工作。
Now the crucial fact that I have to tell you about Chris Sewell at this point in the story is Chris is great at finding other people's money in these databases on the internet.
现在，我必须向您介绍克里斯·休厄尔 (Chris Sewell) 的关键事实是，克里斯非常擅长在互联网上的这些数据库中查找其他人的资金。
And when he looked for money for the doctors at his local university hospital, not only did he find hundreds, hundreds of unclaimed Blue Cross Blue Shield checks, reimbursements, lost trust fund checks.
当他为当地大学医院的医生寻找资金时，他不仅发现了数百张无人认领的蓝十字蓝盾支票、报销单、丢失的信托基金支票。
He also found 100 checks that were owed to the hospital itself.
他还发现了 100 张欠医院的支票。
It was a huge victory.
这是一次巨大的胜利。
But when he went to the hospital to tell the doctors there that there was this money out there for them, he always got the same reaction.
但当他去医院告诉医生那里有这笔钱可以给他们时，他总是得到同样的反应。
There was a total wall of silence.
四周一片寂静。
Except for the people who were telling me to buzz off.
除了那些叫我滚开的人。
I actually went out and I printed out the claim forms.
我实际上出去打印了索赔表。
And I had a cover letter for it.
我有一封求职信。
And tried, in my own humble fashion, to appear professional.
并试图以我自己谦虚的方式表现得专业。
I went to the Salvation Army, bought myself a blue pinstripe suit.
我去了救世军，给自己买了一套蓝色细条纹西装。
Even with my long hair and my beard, I went around and hand-delivered all of them.
即使我留着长发和胡须，我还是亲手将它们全部送到了这里。
And how did that work?
那是如何运作的呢？
Chris Sewell That was the one that-- it didn't work.
克里斯·休厄尔：那是行不通的。
I didn't get responses.
我没有得到回复。
There was no conversation.
没有谈话。
As soon as I talked, security people would just appear out of the woodwork.
我一说话，保安人员就会突然出现。
He tried letters.
他尝试过写信。
He tried emailing.
他尝试发送电子邮件。
Everybody just thought it was a scam.
大家都以为这是一个骗局。
Eventually he got doctors to help him out through other means.
最终他得到了医生通过其他方式帮助他。
And then he turned this talent elsewhere.
然后他将这种才能转向其他地方。
He used it wherever and whenever he could.
他随时随地都可以使用它。
When his local public TV station was doing the pledge drive, he couldn't actually give money, of course, but he looked online, found $1,000 of theirs, called them up.
当他当地的公共电视台进行募捐活动时，他当然不能真正捐钱，但他在网上查找，找到了他们的 1,000 美元，并给他们打电话。
In setting up this interview for our radio show, he was talking to one of our producers on the phone, Julie Snyder, and while he's on the phone with her, he found $400 bucks owed to WBEZ, the radio station where we work.
在为我们的广播节目安排这次采访时，他正在与我们的一位制作人朱莉·斯奈德通电话，当他与她通电话时，他发现欠我们工作的广播电台 WBEZ 400 美元。
And using nothing more than a normal internet connection, he found $610,940 owed to the City of New York.
仅使用正常的互联网连接，他就发现欠纽约市 610,940 美元。
So much money that the city comptroller honored him with an old fashioned letter of commendation.
钱太多了，市审计长给他写了一封老式的表扬信。
Who knew that that was a real thing, and not just something that Commissioner Gordon would give to Batman now and then?
谁知道那是真的，而不仅仅是戈登局长时不时送给蝙蝠侠的东西？
And a press conference.
还有新闻发布会。
It's impossible to overstate what that meant to him, that press conference.
那场新闻发布会对他来说意味着什么都不为过。
I was extremely nervous.
我非常紧张。
And there were big security lines.
还有很长的安全线。
And I finally got there and walked into a room full of TV cameras.
我终于到了那里，走进了一个装满电视摄像机的房间。
And I don't think I'd spoken to anybody before that in like two weeks.
我想在那之前的两周内我没有和任何人说过话。
You hadn't spoken with anybody at all for two weeks?
你已经两周没有和任何人说过话了？
For two weeks you hadn't had a conversation with another person?
您已经两周没有与其他人交谈了？
Yeah.
是的。
Again, I don't have a lot of friends where I live.
再说一次，我住的地方没有很多朋友。
I'm, you know-- trying to just reach out in the middle of a social void is very difficult.
你知道，我想在社交空白中伸出援手是非常困难的。
I mean, on the street, I think my record one time was I don't think I'd spoken to anybody for something like three months.
我的意思是，在街上，我认为我有一次的记录是，我认为我有三个月没有和任何人说过话。
And I just-- I sort of tried to put a party face and soak it all in and radiate it back as best I could.
我只是——我试着装出一张派对脸，把它全部吸收进去，然后尽我所能地把它辐射回来。
The city comptroller actually recognized me.
市审计长居然认出了我。
I feel that I've somehow helped create a place for myself in society, that I'm somehow a little less lost.
我觉得我在某种程度上帮助为自己在社会中创造了一个位置，不知何故我不那么迷失了。
I'm creating a purpose for my own life, and a direction.
我正在为自己的人生设定一个目标和方向。
Our program today: Lost in America.
今天我们的节目：迷失美国。
Stories of people who are lost, and how they sometimes, temporarily, if they're lucky, get found.
讲述迷路之人的故事，以及他们有时如何暂时（如果幸运的话）被找到的故事。
On our program today, Sarah Vowell finds a terrorist, hiding and lost in a patriotic song.
在我们今天的节目中，莎拉·沃威尔发现了一名恐怖分子，他躲藏在一首爱国歌曲中，迷失了方向。
Jonathan Goldstein tries to lose something and finds that it is harder than it seems.
乔纳森·戈尔茨坦试图失去一些东西，却发现这比看起来更难。
And there is an entire magazine devoted to writing that people have lost, dropped, thrown away, and tried to destroy.
还有一本专门写文章的杂志，人们已经丢失、掉落、扔掉，甚至试图毁掉。
Its creator reads samples on stage.
它的创造者在舞台上朗读样本。
Plus Jon Langford of the Mekons, the band OK Go and more.
还有 Mekons 乐队的乔恩·兰福德 (Jon Langford)、OK Go 乐队等。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
[AUDIENCE CHEERING] Act One: Losing It Ira Glass Act One.
[观众欢呼] 第一幕：失去艾拉·格拉斯 第一幕。
Losing It.
失去它。
Well, if you're going to do a program about people who are lost, you pretty much have to do a story about adolescence.
好吧，如果你要制作一个关于迷失者的节目，那么你几乎必须制作一个关于青春期的故事。
Jonathan Goldstein is a regular contributor to our show.
乔纳森·戈尔茨坦是我们节目的定期撰稿人。
A quick warning before we begin, for parents listening with kids, he talks about sex in this story.
在我们开始之前，请注意，对于与孩子一起聆听的父母，他在这个故事中谈到了性。
Please welcome Jonathan Goldstein.
欢迎乔纳森·戈德斯坦。
[AUDIENCE CHEERING] Jonathan Goldstein Dying a virgin happened to people.
[观众欢呼]乔纳森·戈德斯坦 处女之死发生在人们身上。
Hans Christian Andersen, Queen Elizabeth the First.
汉斯·克里斯蒂安·安徒生，伊丽莎白女王一世。
My grandmother's prophetically named brother, Uncle Hymen.
我祖母的兄弟被预言命名为海门叔叔。
And I knew it was the kind of thing that could happen to me.
我知道这可能会发生在我身上。
Days would turn into months, months into years, and eventually I would drop dead in a men's hotel and be buried sexless in a single cemetery plot squeezed in on my side between my parents.
日子会变成几个月，几个月会变成几年，最终我会死在一家男士旅馆里，然后被无性地埋葬在我父母身边的一块墓地里。
And so I began, at an early age, what I thought of as my life's work, the work of not dying a virgin.
因此，我在很小的时候就开始了我认为是我一生的工作，即不再以处女身份死去的工作。
At 10 I met Varid, my first crush.
10 岁时，我遇到了 Varid，我的初恋。
She was in from Israel with her family, and was staying with our neighbors.
她和家人从以色列来，和我们的邻居住在一起。
Since this was the summer Grease came out, I invited Varid upstairs to our living room, where I played the soundtrack on our stereo.
由于当时正是《油脂》上映的夏季，我邀请 Varid 到楼上的客厅，用立体声音响播放了原声带。
While it played, I danced for her.
当音乐响起时，我为她跳舞。
My feeling was that you had to give girls everything you had-- your showmanship, your best moves, even your dignity.
我的感觉是，你必须给女孩你所拥有的一切——你的表演技巧、你最好的动作，甚至你的尊严。
As the music played, Varid sat there with quiet indifference.
当音乐响起时，瓦里德静静地坐在那儿。
At one point, I tried to bring her soul to life by lying down on our coffee table and spinning around on my stomach like a spastic Lazy Susan.
有一次，我躺在咖啡桌上，像痉挛的懒苏珊一样趴在地上旋转，试图让她的灵魂复活。
When I did the splits, I fell to the ground with a ferocity that almost tore my scrotal sac in two.
当我做劈叉动作时，我猛烈地摔倒在地，差点把我的阴囊撕成两半。
Before Varid went back to Israel, I handed her all 10 Archie digests that I owned.
在瓦里德返回以色列之前，我把我拥有的全部 10 本阿奇文摘交给了她。
I stacked them so all the spines lined up perfectly.
我将它们堆叠起来，使所有的刺都完美地排列在一起。
I wanted them to look solemn and substantial, like a package wrapped in rope from the old country.
我希望它们看起来庄重而充实，就像一个用绳子包裹着的来自故乡的包裹。
"It's how I feel about you," I wanted to say, but her English was not good enough to understand.
“这就是我对你的感觉。”我想说，但她的英语不够好，听不懂。
For the next several years, I would say some variation of these words to many different people, but no one's English was ever good enough to understand.
在接下来的几年里，我会对许多不同的人说这些词的一些变体，但没有人的英语水平足以理解。
At the age of 13, I entered the service industry.
13岁那年，我进入了服务行业。
The self service industry.
自助服务行业。
I spent all of my time listening to music like Yellow while fantasizing about the high school gym teacher play tether ball in her brassiere.
我把所有的时间都花在听《Yellow》这样的音乐上，同时幻想着高中体育老师在她的胸罩里玩绳索球。
Or Stevie Nicks strumming a guitar in her brassiere.
或者史蒂维·尼克斯在胸罩里弹奏吉他。
Or in my darker moments, Golda Meir ruling a nation in her brassiere.
或者在我的黑暗时刻，果尔达·梅厄穿着胸罩统治着一个国家。
And then at 14 our family got one of those early model elephantine video machines.
14 岁时，我们家买了一台早期型号的大象视频机。
I rented early 80s teen sex comedies like Private Lessons, Private School for Girls, and Reform School Girl.
我租了 80 年代初的青少年性喜剧，例如《私人课程》、《私立女子学校》和《改革学校女孩》。
I would make each 20-second shower scene last anywhere from six to seven hours.
我会让每个 20 秒的淋浴场景持续六到七个小时。
Pause, rewind, frame advance became my version of the holy trinity.
暂停、快退、快进成为我的三位一体。
One time, having lost the remote control to our VCR, I watched the entirety of Sorority Girls on Vacation lying on the basement floor with the VCR on my chest, hitting its buttons like a 70 pound accordion.
有一次，我失去了录像机的遥控器，看到整个《度假女孩联谊会》都躺在地下室的地板上，录像机放在我胸前，像拉一架 70 磅的手风琴一样敲击按钮。
It was around that time, inspired by a potent cocktail of sexual desperation and movies starring Phoebe Cates, that I left the comfort of home for the streets.
大约在那个时候，受到性绝望和菲比·凯茨主演的电影的强烈启发，我离开了舒适的家，来到了街头。
A 4 foot, 10 inch, pheromone-drenched Cabbage Patch doll with acne on the prowl.
一个 4 英尺 10 英寸、浸满信息素的卷心菜娃娃，脸上长满痤疮。
And thus at 16, I met Tamara.
就这样，16 岁那年，我遇见了塔玛拉。
Everyone had a locker partner at our school, and I shared mine with Tamara.
我们学校每个人都有一个储物柜伙伴，我和塔玛拉共用一个储物柜。
Just knowing that no matter what, our winter boots were alone in the dark together for six hours a day was enough to make me feel at least that something in my life was going all right.
无论如何，只要知道我们的冬靴每天单独在黑暗中呆上六个小时，就足以让我觉得至少我生活中的某些事情进展顺利。
One day I finally worked up the courage to ask her if she wanted to see the Eurythmics concert with me, because I knew she was a big fan, and she said yes.
有一天，我终于鼓起勇气问她是否想和我一起看舞韵音乐会，因为我知道她是舞韵的忠实粉丝，她答应了。
I don't know where I came up with the idea, but I had decided at some point during the concert that I wanted to hold Tamara from behind and sway with her back and forth to the music.
我不知道我从哪里想到了这个想法，但我在音乐会期间的某个时刻决定，我想从后面抱着塔玛拉，随着她的音乐来回摇摆。
It was all I could think about all night.
这是我整个晚上所能想到的一切。
It wasn't a kiss or a held hand I was after, but something else, something less definable.
我所追求的不是一个吻，也不是一个牵手，而是别的东西，一些难以定义的东西。
It was like I wanted to prove that I could get us into some kind of groove.
就好像我想证明我可以让我们进入某种状态。
Finally, during a slow song, I snuck up behind her and put my sweaty pocket hands on her hips.
最后，在一首慢歌中，我偷偷走到她身后，把汗湿的口袋手放在她的臀部上。
I tried to ease us into it.
我试图让我们轻松融入其中。
My movements were halted and completely non-musical.
我的动作停止了，完全没有音乐感。
Rather than dancing, it looked like I was trying to hoist a resistant woman into a mailbox while in the throes of a painful piles attack.
我看起来不是在跳舞，而是试图将一位正在遭受痔疮发作的痛苦的抗拒妇女提升到邮箱中。
Tamara freed herself, and for the rest of the evening, she was afraid to come near me.
塔玛拉挣脱了束缚，整个晚上，她都不敢靠近我。
At home that night I ate a bowl of cold cereal was staring at a bottle of my mother's nail polish on the kitchen counter.
那天晚上我在家吃了一碗冷麦片，盯着厨房柜台上一瓶妈妈的指甲油。
Carefully I painted my nails.
我小心翼翼地涂指甲油。
In bed, my fingers spider-walked the length of my ribs.
在床上，我的手指像蜘蛛一样爬过我的肋骨。
"Quit tickling me," I told myself.
“别再挠我痒痒了，”我告诉自己。
"I have to make this an early night." I grabbed my hand and flung it away from myself roughly.
“我必须早点起床。”我抓住自己的手，粗鲁地甩开。
but it always crept back.
但它总是悄悄回来。
If early 80s teen sex comedies had taught me anything, which, unfortunately, they had in abundance, it was that college was going to be a nonstop nookie fest.
如果说 80 年代初的青少年性喜剧教会了我什么的话，那就是大学将成为一场永无止境的新秀盛宴。
I wasn't fat enough to be the one who sees undressing sorority girls shortly before falling backwards from a ladder.
我还没有胖到成为那个在从梯子上向后摔倒前不久看到联谊会女孩脱衣服的人。
Nor was I daring enough to have sex with a friend's mom.
我也不敢和朋友的妈妈发生性关系。
Nor was I near sighted and good enough at science to create a fellatio bot.
我的近视眼和科学水平也不足以创造一个口交机器人。
But I did know that I was the nice guy, the one that drove everyone around on their way to getting action, and that before the credits rolled, I would receive my due.
但我确实知道我是个好人，是那个带动每个人采取行动的人，并且在片尾字幕滚动之前，我会得到我应得的。
It was only right.
这是正确的。
Well, the credits had rolled, the curtain had come down, there was a man sweeping up popcorn, and still no due.
好吧，片尾字幕已经滚完，幕布已经落下，有人在扫爆米花，但仍然没有到期。
For winter break, my friend Howard and I decided to spend the week in New York City.
寒假期间，我和我的朋友霍华德决定在纽约市度过一周。
As we rode the train there, we passed a burned out school bus in a field, and I thought, yes, that is my heart.
当我们坐火车去那里时，我们经过了田野里一辆被烧毁的校车，我想，是的，那就是我的心。
My heart is a burned out school bus with no windows sitting in the middle of nowhere.
我的心就像一辆烧毁的校车，没有窗户，停在荒无人烟的地方。
But then after about 15 minutes, the train passed a little gray wooden control booth, the door flung wide open, and I thought, no, that.
但大约 15 分钟后，火车经过一个灰色的木制小控制台，门猛地打开，我想，不，是这样。
That is my heart.
那是我的心。
The train continued along through February fields, and I looked for more things to call my heart.
火车继续前行，穿过二月的田野，我寻找更多的东西来唤起我的心。
A rusty bridge.
一座生锈的桥。
A chopped down evergreen.
被砍伐的常绿植物。
A discarded can of Mountain Dew.
一罐被丢弃的激浪。
It turned out my heart was everywhere that winter month.
原来那个冬天我的心无处不在。
We stayed with Howard's aunt in Flushing, and every night we would go to the local bar and take pictures of ourselves scribbling in our notebooks, our faces illuminated by the neon jukebox.
我们住在法拉盛的霍华德姨妈家，每天晚上我们都会去当地的酒吧，拍下自己在笔记本上乱写乱画的照片，我们的脸被霓虹灯点唱机照亮。
It was at that bar that we met a 25-year-old Venezuelan furniture salesman named Jose.
正是在那个酒吧，我们遇到了一位 25 岁的委内瑞拉家具推销员，名叫何塞。
Howard and I thought Jose was the coolest.
霍华德和我认为何塞是最酷的。
While we drank our rum and Coca-Cola's, Jose drank bloody caesars, something we considered very sophisticated, sort of like drinking a salad.
当我们喝朗姆酒和可口可乐时，何塞喝的是血腥凯撒，我们认为这是非常复杂的，有点像喝沙拉。
Howard explained his dilemma to Jose, and I explained mine.
霍华德向何塞解释了他的困境，我也解释了我的困境。
Howard had had cancer when he was 16 and was concerned he wouldn't ever be able to produce semen and have children.
霍华德 16 岁时得了癌症，担心自己永远无法产生精液和生育孩子。
I explained that I had grown weary of being a virgin and really, really wanted to see naked chimichangas.
我解释说我已经厌倦了处女的身份，真的非常想看裸体的墨西哥卷饼。
Jose furrowed his brow and listened to our problems with concern.
何塞皱着眉头，关切地听着我们的问题。
Then he said he was taking us to a whore house.
然后他说他要带我们去妓院。
I cottoned to the idea of a whore house by telling myself that I was very old school, very Neil Simon, or Burt Reynolds, or something.
我告诉自己我是非常老派的人，非常尼尔·西蒙，或者伯特·雷诺兹，或者什么的，所以我才意识到妓院的想法。
It was probably how my father and his father before him did it.
我的父亲和他之前的父亲可能就是这么做的。
I imagined my grandfather had lost his virginity to a kind-hearted madam, who, after the deed, had cooked him a brisket.
我想象着我的祖父失去了他的童贞，给了一位善良的女士，在这件事发生后，她给他做了一块牛胸肉。
Jose took us to an apartment above a fruit store in Spanish Harlem, where we were invited in by a small, older Latino man wearing a shoulder holster.
何塞带我们来到西班牙哈莱姆区一家水果店楼上的一套公寓，在那里，一位戴着肩套的拉丁裔小个子老人邀请我们进去。
Jose told us not to worry, that this is how things were done.
何塞告诉我们不要担心，事情就是这样完成的。
We were seated on a couch facing an East Indian man and what appeared to be his two teenage sons.
我们坐在沙发上，对面是一位东印度男子和他的两个十几岁的儿子。
There were three women dressed in nighties who walked by carrying balled-up faded linen and punch bowl-sized metal basins with soapy sponges.
三个穿着睡衣的女人走过，手里拿着揉成一团的褪色亚麻布和装有肥皂海绵的潘趣酒碗大小的金属盆。
It was after seeing the basins that I realized I would never be able to pull this off.
看到脸盆后，我意识到我永远无法完成这个任务。
There was something too medicinal and matter-of-fact about the whole thing.
整件事太有药性了，也太实事求是了。
Not only that, but I was terrified.
不仅如此，我还感到害怕。
Sex was one thing, but if I was going to be getting naked on a strange bed with sheets that were dubious, I at least wanted to be with someone who mildly liked me.
性是一回事，但如果我要赤身裸体地躺在一张奇怪的床上，床上的床单也很可疑，我至少想和一个稍微喜欢我的人在一起。
And that, of course, is something impossible to gauge when the exchange of Canadian travelers cheques is involved.
当然，当涉及加拿大旅行支票的兑换时，这是无法衡量的。
I told Jose I would sit this one out.
我告诉何塞我不会参加这一会。
Howard, on the other hand, was raring to go.
另一方面，霍华德却迫不及待地想走。
A woman came over to him and introduced herself as Crystal.
一个女人向他走来，自我介绍说她叫克里斯托。
Howard introduced himself as Mr. Cohenovsky, which was the name of our grade seven math teacher.
霍华德介绍自己为科恩诺夫斯基先生，这是我们七年级数学老师的名字。
Crystal took Howard by the hand and led him into a room.
克里斯托拉着霍华德的手，带他进了一个房间。
Each person got 20 minutes.
每人有20分钟的时间。
Howard remained in the room with Crystal for 40.
霍华德和克里斯托在房间里呆了 40 年。
The Indian man sitting opposite me kept pointing to his watch while smiling and winking.
坐在我对面的印度男子一直指着手表，微笑着眨眼。
There's nothing that makes you think about dying a virgin more than sitting on the couch in a whore house waiting for your best friend to finish having sex.
没有什么比坐在妓院的沙发上等待你最好的朋友做爱更让你想到以处女身份死去的想法了。
That couch just then felt like the loneliest place on earth.
那个沙发感觉就像是地球上最孤独的地方。
As it turned out, Crystal saw Howard's scar, and they spent most of their time together talking about what it was like to have had cancer.
结果，克里斯托看到了霍华德的伤疤，他们大部分时间都在一起谈论患癌症的感觉。
Crystal had lost a brother to leukemia several years earlier.
几年前，克里斯托的一个兄弟因白血病去世。
She told Howard that when her and her brother were kids, they poked toothpicks into bubble gum, which they ate like hors d'oeuvres.
她告诉霍华德，当她和她的兄弟还是孩子的时候，他们把牙签戳进泡泡糖里，然后像开胃小菜一样吃掉泡泡糖。
She told Howard that she missed her brother very much.
她告诉霍华德，她非常想念她的哥哥。
On the walk back to the subway, I lagged behind Howard, just watching him.
返回地铁站的路上，我落后于霍华德，只是看着他。
Eventually we asked Howard how it was with Crystal, and he said that it was different than he thought it would be.
最终我们问霍华德与克里斯托的关系如何，他说这与他想象的不同。
And Jose told him he was being too emotional.
何塞告诉他，他太情绪化了。
What I hadn't taken into account was that before you lose something-- in this case, the albatross of one's virginity-- you had to first find something to enable that loss.
我没有考虑到的是，在你失去某些东西之前——在这种情况下，是一个人的童贞的沉重负担——你必须首先找到一些东西来弥补这种损失。
At 18, sort of by accident, I found Galeet.
18 岁时，我偶然发现了加利特。
Her name meant, "little wave," and when we kissed, it was like a little wave of blood was sweeping through my chest.
她名字的意思是“小波浪”，当我们接吻时，就像有一小股血流扫过我的胸口。
We kissed long and hard, our eyes wide open.
我们睁大眼睛，用力地吻了很久。
Galeet's face was always sad.
加利特的脸上总是带着悲伤。
I told her she had a frown that lit up a room.
我告诉她，她皱起的眉头照亮了整个房间。
Galeet would be the first person I would ever sleep with, yet losing my virginity with her, even just after it happened, was something I can never remember.
加利特将是我第一个和她上床的人，但我永远无法记得与她失去童贞，即使是在这件事发生之后。
I could still recall what her breath smelled like after she had eaten chocolate, how she would almost cry when she saw little boys with big glasses.
我还记得她吃完巧克力后呼吸的味道，当她看到戴着大眼镜的小男孩时，她差点哭出来。
I remember a thousand other small things, too, yet our first time together, this thing that I waited forever to happen, to lose a virginity I had waited forever to lose, was completely and utterly lost to me.
我还记得其他一千件小事，但我们第一次在一起，这件我一直等待发生的事情，失去我一直等待失去的童贞，对我来说完全消失了。
I'm not sure I understand why this is.
我不确定我是否明白这是为什么。
Maybe when you're coming towards it, it looks so big and all-eclipsing.
也许当你走近它时，它看起来是如此巨大，令人黯然失色。
It looks like the finish line.
看起来就像是终点线。
You imagine champagne, well wishers, certificates of merit.
你想象香槟、祝福者、奖状。
Then you reach it, and pass it, and you understand it's only the entry point to a lot of other worries, worries that prove to be much more immeasurable and complicated.
然后你到达它，并通过它，你明白这只是许多其他担忧的切入点，这些担忧被证明是更加不可估量和复杂的。
My fear of losing my virginity was nothing compared to my fear of losing Galeet.
与失去加利特的恐惧相比，我对失去童贞的恐惧根本算不了什么。
I could never fathom how she could love me, and so I tested her love all the time.
我永远无法理解她怎么会爱我，所以我一直在测试她的爱。
"Let's say I smashed your car," I said.
“假设我撞坏了你的车，”我说。
"But you'd still love me?" "I guess so," she said.
“但你还会爱我吗？” “我想是的，”她说。
Before I met Galeet, I called myself a virgin.
在遇到加利特之前，我称自己为处女。
It was very clear and definite-- a virgin.
非常明确——处女。
Now there is no name for what I am.
现在我已经没有名字了。
But I'm sort of partial to Leroy.
但我有点偏爱勒罗伊。
Jonathan Goldstein.
乔纳森·戈德斯坦。
He's the author of the novel, Lenny Bruce Is Dead.
他是小说《莱尼·布鲁斯已死》的作者。
Jonathan's next book, which he's working on right now, is a rewrite of the bible.
乔纳森正在写的下一本书是对圣经的重写。
[MUSIC - "TOUCH TO HAVE A CRUSH" BY OK GO]
[音乐 - OK GO 的“Touch to HAVE A Crush”]
Can a song have skeletons in its closet?
一首歌的壁橱里会有骨架吗？
For this next act, Sarah Vowell decided to excavate the lost mongrel past of a patriotic song that I am sure you know.
在下一幕中，莎拉·沃威尔决定挖掘一首我相信你知道的爱国歌曲失落的杂种过去。
As songs go, it definitely had its wild party years before it settled down into the sort of thing that is played now at the White House, much like the current resident of the White House.
就歌曲而言，在它变成现在在白宫播放的那种东西之前，它肯定经历过疯狂的聚会，就像现在的白宫居民一样。
I have to say, I love the fact that that man was a drunk.
我不得不说，我喜欢那个男人是个酒鬼。
That's one of my favorite things about him.
这是我最喜欢他的事情之一。
Is that wrong?
这是错误的吗？
Shows character.
显示性格。
Please welcome Sarah Vowell.
欢迎莎拉·沃威尔。
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
[观众鼓掌]
At the memorial service at the National Cathedral on September 14, 2001, those gathered in the pews to mourn the more than 2,800 people who were murdered by terrorists three days before sang "The Battle Hymn of The Republic."
2001年9月14日，在国家大教堂举行的追悼会上，人们聚集在长椅上，哀悼三天前被恐怖分子杀害的2800多人，高唱《共和国战歌》。
[MUSIC - "BATTLE HYMN OF THE REPUBLIC" BY JON LANGFORD AND THE LOST IN AMERICA TOUR BAND] Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord: He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword: His truth is marching on.
[音乐 - 乔恩·兰福德和迷失美国巡回乐队的《共和国战歌》] 我的眼睛已经看到了主降临的荣耀：他正在践踏储存愤怒葡萄的葡萄；他用他可怕的快剑释放了致命的闪电：他的真理正在前进。
President Bush sang it.
布什总统唱过这首歌。
Ex-presidents Clinton, Carter, and Bush sang it.
前总统克林顿、卡特和布什都唱过这首歌。
Watching it on television in New York City, I sang it.
我在纽约的电视上看这首歌，然后就唱了这首歌。
And across the sea at another service in another church, Queen Elizabeth sang it with tears in her English eyes, having sung the song 36 years earlier at the funeral of Winston Churchill, as Churchill himself had sung it along with FDR on the White House lawn in 1943.
在大洋彼岸的另一座教堂举行的另一场仪式上，伊丽莎白女王用英国人的眼眶含着泪水唱起了这首歌，36 年前，她在温斯顿·丘吉尔的葬礼上唱过这首歌，1943 年，丘吉尔本人在白宫草坪上与罗斯福一起唱过这首歌。
Because that's when we sing "The Battle Hymn of the Republic," at wars and funerals.
因为那是我们在战争和葬礼上唱《共和国战歌》的时候。
So "The Battle Hymn" was doubly appropriate on September 14.
因此，《战歌》在 9 月 14 日举行是再合适不过的了。
It was a funeral, we were at war.
这是一场葬礼，我们正处于战争之中。
And yet there we were, we gathered Americans, her Majesty the queen, chanting this beloved battle cry at the terrorists of the world.
然而我们在那里，我们聚集了美国人，女王陛下，向世界上的恐怖分子高呼这句受人喜爱的战斗口号。
And buried inside the melody of the song was the rotting corpse of an American terrorist.
歌曲旋律中埋藏着美国恐怖分子腐烂的尸体。
Here are the lyrics that used to go to that tune back in 1860, lyrics that honor the terrorist as a hero.
以下是 1860 年这首歌的歌词，这些歌词将恐怖分子视为英雄。
[MUSIC - "JOHN BROWN'S BODY" BY JON LANGFORD AND THE LOST IN AMERICA TOUR BAND] John brown's body lies moldering in the grave, John Brown's body lies moldering in the grave.
[音乐 - 乔恩·兰福德和迷失美国巡回乐队创作的《约翰·布朗的尸体》] 约翰·布朗的尸体在坟墓里腐烂，约翰·布朗的尸体在坟墓里腐烂。
John Brown's body lies moldering in the grave; his soul goes marching on.
约翰·布朗的尸体躺在坟墓里腐烂。他的灵魂继续前行。
I don't throw around the word terrorist lightly, but if it's John Brown-- Brown, a white man who hated slavery so much that even his friend, the famed abolitionist and former slave Frederick Douglass, wished Brown would shut up about it every now and then.
我不会轻易地使用恐怖分子这个词，但如果是约翰·布朗——布朗，一个非常憎恨奴隶制的白人，甚至连他的朋友、著名废奴主义者和前奴隶弗雷德里克·道格拉斯也希望布朗时不时地闭嘴。
Back in 1856, Brown and his men massacred five pro-slavery settlers from the south near Pottawatomie Creek, Kansas, dragging them from their homes as their wives and children looked on screaming.
早在 1856 年，布朗和他的手下就在堪萨斯州波特瓦托米溪附近屠杀了五名来自南部的支持奴隶制的定居者，并将他们从家中拖了出来，而他们的妻子和孩子则在一旁尖叫着。
They hacked them up with knives, though Brown shot one man's mangled body in the head just to make certain he was dead for sure.
他们用刀砍倒了他们，但布朗向一名男子的头部开枪，以确保他确实死了。
Then hoping to incite a slave uprising, Brown led a guerrilla attack on the Federal Arsenal at Harper's Ferry, Virginia on October 16, 1859.
随后，布朗希望煽动奴隶起义，于 1859 年 10 月 16 日领导游击队袭击弗吉尼亚州哈珀斯费里的联邦兵工厂。
17 people lost their lives, including 10 of Brown's men, two of whom were his sons.
17 人丧生，其中包括 10 名布朗手下，其中两人是他的儿子。
Brown was executed on December 2, 1859.
1859 年 12 月 2 日，布朗被处决。
Across the land, Brown's execution was either celebrated or mourned with the ringing church bells, depending on which side of the Mason Dixon Line one hung one's heart.
在这片土地上，人们要么庆祝布朗的处决，要么用敲响的教堂钟声哀悼，这取决于人们的心挂在梅森·迪克森线的哪一边。
In Concord, Massachusetts, Brown's friends, including Ralph Waldo Emerson, held a service in which Henry David Thoreau called Brown a crucified hero.
在马萨诸塞州康科德，布朗的朋友，包括拉尔夫·沃尔多·爱默生，举行了一场仪式，亨利·大卫·梭罗在仪式上称布朗为被钉在十字架上的英雄。
Thoreau was so excited about Brown's martyrdom to the abolitionist cause, that he cheered that Brown's death gave people who were contemplating suicide, quote, "something to live for," exclamation point.
梭罗对布朗为废奴主义事业而殉道感到非常兴奋，他为布朗的死给那些正在考虑自杀的人带来了感叹号而欢呼。
And, as Lincoln puts it in his second inaugural, "the war came."
而且，正如林肯在第二次就职演说中所说的那样，“战争来了”。
Then John Brown got a song of his own, sort of.
然后约翰·布朗得到了一首他自己的歌。
Like every turn in this story, the song "John Brown's Body" is an accident of history.
就像这个故事中的每一个转折一样，歌曲“约翰·布朗的身体”是历史的一个偶然。
What happened was Union soldiers-- the 12th Massachusetts Regiment-- were stationed at Fort Warren in Boston Harbor.
发生的事情是联邦士兵——马萨诸塞州第十二团——驻扎在波士顿港的沃伦堡。
As they went about their duties, the soldiers sang.
当他们履行职责时，士兵们唱歌。
One of their favorites was this Methodist hymn:
他们最喜欢的一首是卫理公会的赞美诗：
[MUSIC - "SAY, BROTHERS, WON'T YOU MEET US" BY JON LANGFORD] Say, brother, will you meet us on Canaan's happy shore?
[音乐 - 乔恩·兰福德 (JON LANGFORD) 创作的“兄弟们，你不会见到我们吗”] 兄弟，你会在迦南的幸福海岸与我们见面吗？
There was a singing quartet in residence at the fort: Sergeant Charles Edgerly, Sergeant Newton J.
堡垒里有一个歌唱四重奏：查尔斯·埃杰利中士、牛顿·J·中士。
Purnette, Sergeant James Jenkins, and Sergeant John Brown.
珀内特、詹姆斯·詹金斯中士和约翰·布朗中士。
One day in December of 1859, news arrived at the fort about the famous abolitionist.
1859 年 12 月的一天，有关这位著名废奴主义者的消息传到了堡垒。
John Brown is dead.
约翰·布朗死了。
Some smart alec, thinking of his singing comrade Sergeant John Brown, is said to have replied, "but he still goes marching around."
据说，一些聪明的亚历克想起了他的歌唱战友约翰·布朗中士，回答道：“但他仍然四处游行。”
A soldier named Henry Howgreen reportedly turned this wise crack into the first verse of the song about his comrade, "John Brown's body lies moldering in the grave, his soul goes marching on." A soldier who played the organ set it to the music of "Say, Brothers, Won't You Meet Us." So the song was a joke, joshing among soldiers, the sort of ribbing a sergeant in today's army might get if he had the misfortune of being named Uday Hussein.
据报道，一位名叫亨利·豪格林的士兵将这句明智的裂缝变成了关于他的战友的歌曲的第一节，“约翰·布朗的尸体在坟墓里腐烂，他的灵魂继续前进。”一名演奏风琴的士兵将其配乐为“兄弟们，你不想见我们吗”的音乐。所以这首歌是一个笑话，是士兵们之间的玩笑，就像当今军队中的一名中士如果不幸被命名为乌代·侯赛因一样，可能会受到的嘲笑。
"John Brown's Body" became the regiment's marching song.
《约翰·布朗的身体》成为该团的进行曲。
They sang in public for the first time, here in Boston on State Street, on July 18, 1861.
1861 年 7 月 18 日，他们在波士顿州街首次公开演唱。
After that, they sang it marching down Broadway in New York City.
之后，他们在纽约百老汇游行时唱着这首歌。
They sang it so often they became known as The Hallelujah Regiment.
他们经常唱这首歌，因此被称为“哈利路亚军团”。
On March 1, 1862, they sang in Virginia on the very spot the abolitionist John Brown was hanged.
1862 年 3 月 1 日，他们在弗吉尼亚废奴主义者约翰·布朗被绞死的地方演唱。
Three months later, Sergeant John Brown drowned while crossing the Shenandoah River on his way to battle.
三个月后，约翰·布朗中士在前往战斗途中渡过谢南多厄河时溺水身亡。
Heartbroken, The Hallelujah Regiment never sang "John Brown's Body" again.
伤心欲绝的哈利路亚军团再也没有唱过《约翰·布朗的身体》。
But by that time, they were the only ones in the Union Army not singing it.
但到那时，他们是联邦军中唯一不唱这首歌的人。
Northern soldiers would sing it on parade, marching from battle to battle, sitting around camp fires at night.
北方士兵会在游行中唱这首歌，从一个战场行进到另一个战场，晚上坐在篝火旁。
And since no one had ever heard of Sergeant Brown, every soldier who sang the song thought he was paying tribute to the famed abolitionist.
由于没有人听说过布朗中士，每一位唱这首歌的士兵都认为他是在向这位著名的废奴主义者致敬。
Lyrics kept getting added on, including one doozy of a stanza about the president of the confederacy.
歌词不断被添加，其中包括一首关于联邦总统的精彩诗节。
[MUSIC - "JOHN BROWN'S BODY" BY JON LANGFORD AND THE LOST IN AMERICA TOUR BAND] We'll hang Jeff Davis to a sour apple tree, we'll hang Jeff Davis to a sour apple tree.
[音乐 - 乔恩·兰福德和迷失美国巡回乐队的《约翰·布朗的身体》] 我们将把杰夫·戴维斯挂在一棵酸苹果树上，我们将把杰夫·戴维斯挂在一棵酸苹果树上。
We'll hang Jeff Davis to a sour apple tree; as we go marching on.
我们将把杰夫·戴维斯吊在一棵酸苹果树上；当我们继续前进时。
In November of 1861, some white abolitionists from Boston, including Mr. and Mrs. Samuel Gridley Howe, and their minister Reverend James F.
1861 年 11 月，一些来自波士顿的白人废奴主义者，包括塞缪尔·格里德利·豪 (Samuel Gridley Howe) 夫妇，以及他们的部长詹姆斯·F·肯尼迪牧师 (Reverend James F.
Clark, were touring a Union army base on the outskirts of the nation's capital.
克拉克正在参观首都郊区的一个联邦军队基地。
They heard some soldiers singing about John Brown's body "moldering in the grave." Reverend Clark turned to Mrs. Howe and wondered if she might like to write new, more uplifting lyrics to that fine melody of "John Brown's Body."
他们听到一些士兵唱着约翰·布朗的尸体“在坟墓里腐烂”的歌声。克拉克牧师转向豪夫人，想知道她是否愿意为“约翰·布朗的身体”的优美旋律写一些新的、更令人振奋的歌词。
Not that Julia Ward Howe had a problem with John Brown.
朱莉娅·沃德·豪并不是对约翰·布朗有意见。
She had even hosted Brown at dinner in her home on one of his trips to Massachusetts, trying to drum up money he could use smiting the slave mongers.
布朗有一次去马萨诸塞州旅行时，她甚至在家里招待了他，试图筹集资金来打击奴隶贩子。
Basically, abolitionist pledge drive.
基本上，是废奴主义者的承诺驱动。
[AUDIENCE LAUGHTER] Julia Ward Howe would recall of the morning she wrote new lyrics that she had "the feeling that something of importance had happened to me." Back home in Boston, she gave the poem to her neighbor, James T.
[观众笑声] 朱莉娅·沃德·豪 (Julia Ward Howe) 回忆起她写新歌词的那天早上，她“感觉有一些重要的事情发生在我身上”。回到波士顿的家中，她把这首诗送给了她的邻居詹姆斯·T·
Fields, editor of the Atlantic Monthly.
菲尔兹，《大西洋月刊》编辑。
He paid Howe $4.00, gave her poem the title, "The Battle Hymn of the Republic," and published it in the February 1862 issue.
他付给豪 4 美元，给她的诗起名为“共和国战歌”，并在 1862 年 2 月号上发表。
"The Battle Hymn" became a huge hit.
《战歌》一炮而红。
Who knew the Atlantic Monthly was the TRL of its day?
谁知道《大西洋月刊》是当时的 TRL？
Soldiers and citizens alike couldn't stop singing it.
士兵和公民都无法停止唱这首歌。
When Abraham Lincoln heard it at a rally, it is said that his eyes filled with tears and he yelled, "sing it again."
据说，当亚伯拉罕·林肯在一次集会上听到这首歌时，他的眼睛里充满了泪水，他大喊：“再唱一遍。”
Sing it again.
再唱一遍。
[MUSIC - "THE BATTLE HYMN OF THE REPUBLIC" BY JON LANGFORD AND THE LOST IN AMERICA TOUR BAND] I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel: "As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal; let the hero born of woman crush the serpent with his heel, since God is marching on."
[音乐——乔恩·兰福德和迷失美国巡回乐队创作的《共和国战歌》]我读到了一篇用光亮的钢排写成的炽热的福音书：“你们对待我的蔑视者，我的恩典也将对待你们；让女人出生的英雄用脚跟踩碎蛇，因为上帝正在前进。”
That line in the hymn about the hero born of woman, which is a shout-out to the Virgin Mary by way of William Shakespeare, takes on an extra meaning in light of Julia Ward Howe's biography.
关于女性所生英雄的赞美诗中的这句诗是威廉·莎士比亚对圣母玛利亚的呼喊，根据朱莉娅·沃德·豪的传记，这句话具有了额外的意义。
Though she was married for 34 years, raised six children, and is, in fact, the creator of Mother's Day, Julia how was not without ambivalence about domesticity.
尽管朱莉娅已经结婚 34 年，养育了 6 个孩子，而且实际上还是母亲节的创始人，但她对家庭生活却并非没有矛盾心理。
For example, she wrote a poem entitled "The Present is Dead.
例如，她写了一首题为“现在已死”的诗。
" On her honeymoon.
“在度蜜月时。
In writing to her sister about what she called "the stupor of marriage and motherhood," Howe complained, "it has been like blindness, like death, like exile from all things beautiful and good."
豪在写给姐姐的信中谈到了她所谓的“婚姻和母性的麻木”，她抱怨道，“这就像失明，就像死亡，就像被放逐在一切美丽和善良的事物中。”
So in "The Battle Hymn of the Republic," Howe reminds the nations that the Son of God had a human mom who did all the work.
因此，在《共和国战歌》中，豪提醒各国，上帝的儿子有一位人类母亲，她承担了所有的工作。
Hence, "let the hero born of woman crush the serpent with his heel," Howe is rubbing in the fact that even Jesus had to be potty trained.
因此，“让女人生的英雄用脚跟踩碎蛇”，豪在强调即使是耶稣也必须接受如厕训练的事实。
Like a lot of your bigger hit songs, "The Battle Hymn" has been ripped off numerous times.
就像许多更热门的歌曲一样，《战歌》被多次盗用。
Countless renditions have been sent to its tune, which is fair enough considering that Julia Ward Howe ripped off a song which was a rip off of a previous song.
无数的版本都按照它的曲调发送，考虑到朱莉娅·沃德·豪抄袭了一首抄袭前一首歌曲的歌曲，这很公平。
There was "Solidarity Forever," a union number from the IWW songbook.
其中有一首来自 IWW 歌曲集的工会歌曲《Solidarity Forever》。
[MUSIC - "SOLIDARITY FOREVER" BY JON LANGFORD AND THE LOST IN AMERICA TOUR BAND] When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run, there can be no greater anywhere beneath the sun; yet what force on earth weaker than the feeble strength of one, for the union makes us strong.
[音乐 - 乔恩·兰福德 (Jon Langford) 和迷失美国巡回乐队 (The Lost in America) 创作的《永远的团结》] 当工会的灵感在工人的血液中流淌时，太阳底下再也没有比这更伟大的事情了；然而，地球上还有什么力量比一个人的微弱力量更弱，因为联合使我们变得强大。
There was "Glory Land," the official song for the 1994 World Cup, in which Darryl Hall, of and Oates fame, proclaimed to the soccer fans, "with passion rising high, you know that you can reach your goal."
1994 年世界杯的官方歌曲《Glory Land》中，因达里尔·霍尔 (Darryl Hall) 和奥茨 (Oates) 而闻名的达里尔·霍尔 (Darryl Hall) 向球迷们宣称，“只要激情高涨，你就知道你可以实现目标。”
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING] And of course, that playground classic:
[观众笑]当然，还有那个游乐场经典：
[MUSIC - "PLAYGROUND VERSION OF 'THE BATTLE HYMN'" BY JON LANGFORD AND THE LOST IN AMERICA BAND] Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school, we have tortured every teacher, we have broken every rule; we have marched unto the principal to tell him he's a fool, the school is burning down.
[音乐-乔恩·兰福德和迷失美国乐队的“游乐场版‘战歌’”]我的眼睛看到了学校被烧毁的荣耀，我们折磨过每一位老师，我们打破了每一条规则；我们游行到校长那里，告诉他他是个傻瓜，学校正在被烧毁。
The school is burning down.
学校正在被烧毁。
[AUDIENCE CHEERING] In the 1950s, around the time of the Korean War, something else happened to Julia Ward How's "Battle Hymn of the Republic." A word changed.
[观众欢呼] 20 世纪 50 年代，朝鲜战争前后，朱莉娅·沃德·豪 (Julia Ward How) 的《共和国战歌》发生了一些变化。一个字变了。
The line "let us die to make men free" got change to "let us live to make man free." The new wording acknowledged that sometimes war isn't always the answer.
“让我们死以让人类自由”改为“让我们活着以让人类自由”。新的措辞承认，有时战争并不总是解决问题的办法。
Plus, less of a downer.
另外，不太令人沮丧。
And through the years, a civil war of sorts has broken out between those who would die and those who would live.
多年来，死者与生者之间爆发了某种内战。
The Mormon Tabernacle Choir sings "live" on their 1959 Grammy Award-winning recording of the song.
摩门教圣堂合唱团在 1959 年获得格莱美奖的这首歌录音中“现场”演唱。
Joan Baez, leading a sing-along at a black college in Birmingham in 1962, went with the traditional "die."
1962 年，琼·贝兹 (Joan Baez) 在伯明翰一所黑人大学领唱时，选择了传统的“die”。
In my opinion, die is the way to go.
在我看来，死是一条出路。
When you get rid of the word, "die," you erase the most moving idea in the song, that if Christ died for us, we should be willing to die for each other.
当你去掉“死”这个词时，你就抹去了歌曲中最感人的想法，即如果基督为我们而死，我们就应该愿意为彼此而死。
Why give that up?
为什么要放弃呢？
This the one clear-cut case where you can ask yourself, "what would Jesus do," and you know the answer.
这是一个明确的案例，你可以问自己：“耶稣会做什么”，你就知道答案。
What would Jesus do?
耶稣会怎么做？
Die.
死。
And, of course, people disagree about the wording.
当然，人们对措辞有不同意见。
We disagree about everything else in this country.
我们对这个国家的其他一切都存在分歧。
And when we sing the song today, I think we even disagree about who the serpents are that our heels should crush.
当我们今天唱这首歌时，我想我们甚至在我们应该用脚跟踩碎的蛇是谁的问题上存在分歧。
Some of us see our enemies abroad, some see them at home, some of us are still mad at France.
我们中的一些人在国外看到了我们的敌人，一些人在国内看到了他们，我们中的一些人仍然对法国感到愤怒。
And that's the way it's been with this song all through its history.
这就是这首歌的整个历史。
It gets adapted for one use, than another.
它适合一种用途，而不是另一种用途。
The melody is so powerful, the words so strong, you feel like you really would lay down your life for a just cause.
旋律如此有力，歌词如此有力，你感觉你真的愿意为了正义的事业献出自己的生命。
Of your choosing.
由您选择。
When we sing "The Battle Hymn"-- and I say we because that is how the song is traditionally performed at public events, as a sing-along in which a group of citizens turn themselves into a choir-- we sing about taking action, about marching on, about doing something.
当我们唱《战歌》时——我说我们是因为这首歌在公共活动中传统上是这样表演的，一群公民将自己变成合唱团一起合唱——我们唱的是关于采取行动、关于前进、关于做某事。
And this is the best part about singing "The Battle Hymn:" you're not standing there alone doing something, you're part of something.
这是唱《战歌》最好的部分：你不是独自站在那里做某事，你是某件事的一部分。
The song starts off with "mine eyes," and "I have seen," and by the end it's "you and me" and "let us die" or "let us live," whatever-- "us" being the point.
这首歌以“我的眼睛”和“我见过”开始，到最后是“你和我”和“让我们死”或“让我们活”，无论如何——“我们”是重点。
We're all in it together, if only for the length of the song.
我们都在一起，即使只是为了歌曲的长度。
Sarah Vowell.
莎拉·沃威尔。
She's the author of several books, including The Partly Cloudy Patriot.
她是多本书的作者，包括《部分多云的爱国者》。
Word about the band that's here in the stage.
关于舞台上的乐队的消息。
On this tour, we have the band OK Go.
在这次巡演中，我们有 OK Go 乐队。
And we have this bad, headed by the seme-legendary Jon Langford of the Mekons in the Waco Brothers.
我们有一个坏人，由韦科兄弟梅肯家族的半传奇人物乔恩·兰福德领导。
A while back, John did a story with us and producer Starlee Kine on our staff in our show about the classified ads, we he put together an entire band from the musicians classifieds.
不久前，约翰在我们的节目中与我们和我们的制作人 Starlee Kine 一起做了一个关于分类广告的故事，我们他从音乐家分类中组建了整个乐队。
And he's brought two of those musicians from that story with him here on the tour.
他还带来了故事中的两位音乐家一起参加巡演。
On the far end you'll see Eric Muller on the theremin.
在远端，您会看到埃里克·穆勒 (Eric Muller) 在演奏特雷门琴。
Eric used to work for a company that made parts for the railroad.
埃里克曾经在一家为铁路制造零件的公司工作。
And on this end is Nathan Swanson, who still works part time for Home Depot, playing electric violin and mandolin.
在这方面，内森·斯旺森 (Nathan Swanson) 仍然在家得宝 (Home Depot) 兼职，演奏电子小提琴和曼陀林。
Alan on bass and Dan on drums, they're old pros.
艾伦负责贝斯，丹负责鼓，他们都是老专业人士了。
[MUSIC - "HELL'S ROOF" BY JON LANGFORD AND THE LOST IN AMERICA TOUR BAND]
[音乐 - 乔恩·兰福德 (Jon Langford) 和迷失美国巡回乐队的《地狱屋顶》]
That was great.
那太好了。
Coming up, scraps of paper, personal letters, handmade signs, all discarded and then found.
随之而来的是纸片、私人信件、手工制作的标牌，全部被丢弃然后被发现。
Maybe there's something of yours in there.
也许里面有你的东西。
You'll find out in a minute.
一分钟后你就会知道。
From Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International when our program continues.
当我们的节目继续进行时，来自芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week, of course, we choose theme, bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，每周我们都会选择主题，为您带来关于该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's program, taped on the road in Boston, Portland, Oregon, Denver, Chicago, and Washington DC: Lost in America.
今天的节目在波士顿、波特兰、俄勒冈州、丹佛、芝加哥和华盛顿特区的路上录制：《迷失美国》。
Stories of people who are lost, words that are lost, things that are lost, and, now and again, found.
关于失去的人、失去的言语、失去的东西以及时不时被找到的故事。
We've arrived at Act Three of our program.
我们已经到了节目的第三幕了。
Act Three: I Found Your Letter.
第三幕：我找到了你的信。
You know when you're walking down the street and you spot some random piece of paper floating around-- a page from a letter, a shopping list with a note on it, some kid's paper from class-- do you pick it up?
你知道，当你走在街上，发现周围随机飘浮着一些纸片——一封信的一页、一张带有便条的购物清单、一些孩子课堂上的纸片——你会把它捡起来吗？
Do you read it?
你读过吗？
Me?
我？
Very nosy, yes.
非常爱管闲事，是的。
As writing goes, these pieces of paper, they're little writing orphans, cut off from their original life, cut off from everything that gave them meaning.
随着写作的进行，这些纸片，它们是小小的写作孤儿，与原来的生活隔绝了，与赋予它们意义的一切隔绝了。
But still there with a lot on their minds and a lot to say.
但他们仍然有很多想法和很多话要说。
A few years back, Davy Rothbart decided that somebody, somewhere should do a magazine that was made up entirely of this kind of writing.
几年前，戴维·罗斯巴特（Davy Rothbart）决定应该在某个地方的某个人制作一本完全由此类写作组成的杂志。
And then through sheer force of will, he became that somebody and created Found Magazine.
然后，凭借纯粹的意志力，他成为了那样的人，并创办了《Found》杂志。
Now, people all over the country send him this stuff.
现在，全国各地的人都给他送来这些东西。
He's going to come out and read some of this writing that has been discarded and misplaced, lost by its original owners.
他将出来阅读一些被原主人丢弃、放错地方、丢失的文字。
Please welcome Davy Rothbart.
欢迎戴维·罗斯巴特。
[AUDIENCE APPLAUSE]
[观众鼓掌]
Everyone can find stuff.
每个人都可以找到东西。
And I want to give you just a sense of some of the stuff that people are finding and sending in to us.
我想让您了解人们正在寻找并发送给我们的一些内容。
This right here is a note that was found in LA.
这是在洛杉矶发现的一张纸条。
And it says, "Jesse, I did not take anything.
它说：“杰西，我没有拿任何东西。
I know there's no convincing you once you've made up your mind.
我知道一旦你下定决心就无法说服你。
And although I cannot offer you any other explanation as to what happened to it, that doesn't mean I did it.
尽管我无法向您提供任何其他解释来解释发生的事情，但这并不意味着我做到了。
How could I have?
我怎么可能有？
You say your car was locked and Katie had the keys.
你说你的车被锁了，凯蒂有钥匙。
Anyway, I don't need to take something of yours when I could get my own.
不管怎样，当我能得到我自己的东西时，我不需要拿走你的东西。
It doesn't make sense.
这没有道理。
But here's a replacement, because I can't stand when you think I've wronged you.
但这里有一个替代品，因为当你认为我冤枉了你时，我无法忍受。
Mom."
妈妈。”
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING] The authors of some of these notes, they don't always paint themselves in the best light, you know?
[观众笑]其中一些笔记的作者，他们并不总是以最好的方式描绘自己，你知道吗？
Sometimes they're going fine, fine, and they just skewer themselves at the end.
有时他们进展得很好，很好，但最后却把自己串起来了。
And this is one that was found in Tacoma, Washington.
这是在华盛顿州塔科马发现的。
And at the top, OK, it just says, "what kind of relationship do I want?
在顶部，好吧，它只是说，“我想要什么样的关系？
How do I see myself in it?
我如何在其中看到自己？
I'm nurturing, I'm relied upon, I'm getting my ya-yas." But then down here it says, "what I hate about women: they're hard, impossible to please and satisfy.
我在养育我，我在被依赖，我在得到我的“呀呀”。但下面它说，“我讨厌女人的一点是：她们很难，不可能取悦和满足。
They talk a lot without saying much or being intimate.
他们聊了很多，但话不多，也不亲密。
And they're self-involved and self-absorbed.
他们是自我参与和自我陶醉的。
I want them to be absorbed with me."
我希望他们能全神贯注于我。”
This one was found in Berkeley, California, actually on the front lawn of a fraternity house.
这个是在加利福尼亚州伯克利发现的，实际上是在兄弟会会所的前草坪上。
And it was a whole book of letters back and forth from the elders of the house to the pledges, the young kids who are trying to get into the fraternity.
这是一整本书，里面写满了家里的长辈和那些想加入兄弟会的小孩子们之间来回的信件。
So this is one of the notes that's from one of the elders to one of the young pledges named A.J.
这是一位长老写给一位名叫 A.J. 的年轻人的便条。
And he says, "A.J., tonight's event was just a tradition of the house.
他说：“A.J.，今晚的活动只是我们学院的一个传统。
It was not gay.
这不是同性恋。
Even though you had to pull down your pants, at least you didn't have to show it to all the actives, just your pledge master.
虽然要脱下裤子，但至少不用给所有活动者看，只要给你的誓师师父看就可以了。
Its meaning: to prove your manhood and that you are not a boy.
其含义是：证明你的男子气概并且证明你不是男孩。
But none of us are gay.
但我们都不是同性恋。
Aside from all this, I want to know that I've seen some improvement out of you since your first pledge.
除此之外，我想知道自从你第一次做出承诺以来，我已经看到你的一些进步。
Keep up the effort and have a positive attitude of things.
继续努力并对事物抱有积极的态度。
I tell ya, it's all worth it once you've crossed.
我告诉你，一旦穿越了，一切都是值得的。
Take my word for it.
相信我的话。
Just hang in there, OK?
坚持住，好吗？
Listen, I want you to have dinner with me when you're free someday.
听着，我想让你有一天有空的时候和我一起吃晚饭。
It's a great chance for you to get to know me better and for me to answer questions you may have, all right?
这是一个很好的机会让你更好地了解我，我也可以回答你的问题，好吗？
Aaron."
亚伦。”
And so many of the notes, as I read through them when they come in the mail every day that people are finding, they deal with love and relationships, you know?
当人们每天收到邮件时，我仔细阅读了很多笔记，发现它们涉及爱情和人际关系，你知道吗？
And one of the favorite notes that I've ever found myself is this note I found in Chicago on my windshield.
我最喜欢的便条之一是我在芝加哥在挡风玻璃上发现的这张便条。
I came out of my friend's apartment late one night.
一天深夜，我从朋友的公寓出来。
It had snowed a little bit.
下了一点雪。
And you know, with like a thin layer of snow, every car looks a little bit the same.
你知道，就像一层薄薄的雪一样，每辆车看起来都有点相似。
And my name's Davy, but there's a note on my windshield that was addressed to Marco.
我的名字叫戴维，但我的挡风玻璃上有一张写给马可的字条。
And it said, "Marco, I freakin' hate you.
它说：“马可，我讨厌你。
You said you had to work?
你说你必须工作？
Then why is your car here at her place?
那你的车为什么会停在她那里？
You're a freakin' liar.
你就是个大骗子。
I hate you, I freakin' hate you.
我恨你，我恨死你了。
Crystal.
水晶。
P.S.
附：
Page me later?"
稍后传呼我吗？”
And then this one just came in last week from-- it was found in North Carolina.
然后这个上周刚从——它是在北卡罗来纳州发现的。
And it says, "Dear Will, the longer I think about what I'm doing, the sicker I feel.
上面写着：“亲爱的威尔，我思考自己正在做的事情的时间越长，我的感觉就越难受。
Will, I'm sorry, but I don't think we should continue to have a relationship together.
威尔，我很抱歉，但我认为我们不应该继续保持这样的关系。
At least not as a couple.
至少不是情侣。
I love you, but things have not been the same since we found out that we were related."
我爱你，但自从我们发现我们有血缘关系以来，一切都不再一样了。”
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING] My little brother, Peter, he is the best finder I know.
[观众笑]我的弟弟彼得，他是我认识的最好的发现者。
He amazes me with what he brings home.
他带回家的东西让我感到惊讶。
And this is one he found when he was visiting me in Chicago.
这是他在芝加哥拜访我时发现的。
And it's written in like a kid's handwriting.
而且写得像小孩子的笔迹。
It looks like maybe a 12-year-old kid.
看起来可能是一个12岁的孩子。
It says, "To cashier, will you please sell my son one pack of Newport Lights." Ah, that trick.
上面写着：“收银员，请您卖给我儿子一包纽波特灯。”啊，这个伎俩。
"Thank you for your help." On there's just this scrawled, adult-looking signature.
“感谢您的帮助。”上面只有这个潦草的、看起来像成年人的签名。
And then this one my brother found pinned under the back tire of his bicycle.
然后我哥哥发现了这个钉在他自行车后轮胎下的东西。
And it's this handsome looking sign.
这是这个看起来很漂亮的标志。
Someone spent a good deal of time putting this thing together.
有人花了很多时间把这个东西放在一起。
It says, "After leaving the building please lock this door.
上面写着：“离开大楼后，请锁上这扇门。
It will prevent unauthorized people from entering the building and defecating in the washing machine.
它将防止未经授权的人员进入建筑物并在洗衣机中排便。
Many thanks."
非常感谢。”
And when you send your finds in, I ask that you name your finds.
当你寄来你的发现物时，我要求你为你的发现物命名。
And also that you write one line, you know, a sense of response or interpretation to it.
而且你写下一行，你知道，对它的一种回应或解释。
About this one, my brother wrote, he says, "Note that those who are authorized to defecate in the washing machine will be given a key for entry."
关于这一点，我哥哥写道，“请注意，那些有权在洗衣机里排便的人将获得一把进入的钥匙。”
And yeah, I applaud for whoever made that sign, but also for my brother, who just picked it up off the ground.
是的，我为制作这个标志的人鼓掌，也为我的兄弟鼓掌，他刚刚把它从地上捡起来。
And I asked him, you know, "how do you do it?
我问他，你知道，“你是怎么做到的？
What's your secret?" My brother says that it's been scientifically calculated-- by him-- that one in five, 20%, of all finds are gems of finds.
你有什么秘密？”我哥哥说，根据他的科学计算，所有发现物中有五分之一（20%）是发现物中的瑰宝。
So that means if you pick one thing up a day, that every week you'll have a real jewel of a find.
因此，这意味着如果您每天挑选一件东西，那么每周您都会发现一件真正的宝石。
Let's read this one here.
让我们在这里读一下这篇文章。
This is from Erie, Pennsylvania.
这是来自宾夕法尼亚州伊利市的。
And it's a note, a kid writing a letter to his dad.
这是一张纸条，一个孩子写给他父亲的一封信。
It says, "Hi, Dad.
它说：“嗨，爸爸。
What's up?
怎么了？
Not much here.
这里就不多说了。
Just working to save money.
只是为了省钱而工作。
I'm working at Old Country Buffet starting at $6.50 an hour cooking.
我在 Old Country Buffet 工作，烹饪起价为每小时 6.50 美元。
Dad, are there any cooking jobs down there?
爸爸，那里有做饭的工作吗？
Let me know when you write me back.
当你给我回信时请告诉我。
I gave Cleav your letter, OK?
我把你的信给了克里夫，好吗？
Without Mom knowing, OK?
不让妈妈知道，好吗？
I can't wait to come down there.
我等不及要下来了。
Erie sucks bad.
伊利太烂了
There ain't nothing to do.
没什么可做的。
Too cold.
太冷了。
The weather sucks, too.
天气也很糟糕。
Dad, I drink, too.
爸爸，我也喝酒。
Beer.
啤酒。
Budweiser.
百威啤酒。
But I don't drink a lot.
但我喝得不多。
And I do a little drugs, too.
我也吸一点药。
I smoke joints.
我抽大麻烟。
And I got a bowl that's cool.
我有一个很酷的碗。
I'll let you see it, OK?
我让你看看，好吗？
I talked to Grandma.
我和奶奶谈过。
She said she's going to send you a letter and some money.
她说她要给你寄一封信和一些钱。
Dad, I don't know if Cleav or Beth is coming down, but I'll talk to them and see.
爸爸，我不知道克里夫或贝丝是否会下来，但我会和他们谈谈并看看。
If not, it will be just me only.
如果没有，那就只有我一个人了。
Dad, you're going to rent a mobile home.
爸爸，你要租一套移动房屋。
That's cheap.
那很便宜。
$100 a week.
每周 100 美元。
That's cheap.
那很便宜。
Dad, try and see if there's any apartments for rent and let me know how much, OK?
爸爸，你试试看有没有出租的公寓，告诉我多少钱，好吗？
Dad, I'm going to take a Greyhound because it's cheap-- only $49-- but I'll call you ahead of time.
爸爸，我要乘坐灰狗巴士，因为它很便宜——只要 49 美元——但我会提前给你打电话。
Dad, all the money I'm saving from working at my job and my income tax check, I should have a lot, OK?
爸爸，我工作攒下来的钱和所得税支票，我应该有很多，好吗？
With the money, we should be able to get a place for us, OK?
有了钱，我们应该可以找到一个地方，好吗？
Dad, I can't wait to come down there pretty soon."
爸爸，我迫不及待地想很快就到那里去。”
Turn over.
翻。
"Dad, I'm a cook, and I can cook us some [BLEEP] up.
“爸爸，我是一名厨师，我可以给我们做一些[哔]。
Cook some meals up for us, get a grill and cook on that.
为我们做一些饭菜，拿一个烤架来做饭。
Also, I got a lot of CDs, like AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Pink Floyd, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, and all that.
另外，我还有很多 CD，比如 AC/DC、Led Zeppelin、Metallica、Pink Floyd、The Doors、Jimi Hendrix、Judas Priest、Black Sabbath 等等。
We can jam out and have lots of fun.
我们可以出去玩，玩得很开心。
Davy Rothbart.
戴维·罗斯巴特。
You can go to his magazine's website, foundmagazine.com.
您可以访问他的杂志网站，foundmagazine.com。
Our program was produced today by Julie Snyder, Diane Cook, Todd Bachmann, me, with our other producers, Alex Blumberg, Wendy Dorr, and Starlee Kine.
今天我们的节目由朱莉·斯奈德、黛安·库克、托德·巴赫曼、我以及其他制作人亚历克斯·布隆伯格、温迪·多尔和斯塔莉·凯恩共同制作。
Production help from Katie O'Dunn.
凯蒂·奥邓 (Katie O'Dunn) 提供制作帮助。
Engineering for our show in Boston by Miles Smith.
迈尔斯·史密斯 (Miles Smith) 为我们在波士顿的演出设计了工程。
In DC, Jonathan Cherry and Big Mo Recording.
在 DC，Jonathan Cherry 和 Big Mo Recording。
In Portland, John Frazy.
在波特兰，约翰·弗雷齐。
In Chicago, Mary Gaffney.
在芝加哥，玛丽·加夫尼。
Our March guru, Jorge Just.
我们的三月大师豪尔赫·贾斯特。
Thanks to Adam Beckman.
感谢亚当·贝克曼。
Ken Sleuter mixed one of our bands.
Ken Sleuter 为我们的一支乐队混音。
Brand Cutsman the other.
品牌Cutsman 另一个。
Thanks also to Robbie Willard.
还要感谢罗比·威拉德。
Thanks to the public radio stations who have been our hosts and presenters in the five cities.
感谢五个城市的公共广播电台担任我们的主持人和主持人。
WBUR in Boston.
WBUR 位于波士顿。
WAMU, 88.5 FM in DC.
WAMU，直流 88.5 FM。
Oregon Public Broadcasting in Portland.
俄勒冈州波特兰公共广播电台。
Colorado Public Radio in Denver.
丹佛科罗拉多州公共广播电台。
And Chicago Public Radio in our hometown.
还有我们家乡的芝加哥公共广播电台。
Special thanks today to our bands in all of our cities but DC.
今天特别感谢我们在除华盛顿之外的所有城市的乐队。
Dan Massey on drums, Alen Doughty on bass, Eric Muller on theremin, Nathan Swanson on violin and mandolin, plus Pat Brennan on piano and John Rice on guitar, and the great Jon Langford on guitar and vocals.
丹·马西 (Dan Massey) 担任鼓手，艾伦·道蒂 (Alen Doughty) 担任贝斯手，埃里克·穆勒 (Eric Muller) 担任特雷门琴，内森·斯旺森 (Nathan Swanson) 担任小提琴和曼陀林，加上帕特·布伦南 (Pat Brennan) 担任钢琴，约翰·赖斯 (John Rice) 担任吉他手，伟大的乔恩·兰福德 (Jon Langford) 担任吉他和主唱。
In DC.
在华盛顿。
OK Go is Damian Kulash on vocals, Tim Nordwind on bass, Andrew Duncan on guitar, Don Konopka on drums and Burleigh Seaver on keyboard.
OK Go 的主唱是 Damian Kulash，贝斯手 Tim Nordwind，吉他手 Andrew Duncan，鼓手 Don Konopka，键盘手 Burleigh Seaver。
Our web site, www.thisamericanlife.org.
我们的网站：www.thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Mr. Torey Malatia, who begs, begs you,
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理监督由 Torey Malatia 先生负责，他求求你，
Quit tickling me.
别再挠我痒痒了
I have to make this an early night.
我得早点睡。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
[FUNDING CREDITS] You can download audio of our show at audible.com/thisamericanlife, where they have public radio programs, best selling books, even the New York Times, all at audible.com.
[资金来源] 您可以在 audible.com/thisamericanlife 下载我们节目的音频，那里有公共广播节目、畅销书籍，甚至纽约时报，所有这些都在 audible.com 上。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。