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Prologue Ira Glass Hi, it's Ira Glass.
序言 Ira Glass 嗨,我是 Ira Glass。
Today's This American Life was first broadcast back in 2002, which actually explains the premise of the show, which was to do an entire program based on the classifieds section of the newspaper.
《今日美国生活》于2002年首次播出,这实际上解释了该节目的前提,即根据报纸的分类广告栏目制作一整套节目。
Now, of course, Craigslist has taken the place of a lot of this classified advertising, putting the entire newspaper business in peril.
当然,现在 Craigslist 已经取代了很多此类分类广告,使整个报纸业务陷入危险。
So in just seven years, this has turned into a look at what once was.
所以短短七年的时间,这一切就变成了原来的样子。
Here's the show.
这是节目。
Marilyn Tanious has been working in the classifieds for 27 years at five different newspapers.
Marilyn Tanious 已在五家不同的报纸从事分类广告工作 27 年。
And when she reads the ads, she sees things that you and I don't.
当她阅读广告时,她看到了你我看不到的东西。
The other day, she was sitting in her office at the Chicago Sun-Times with two of her colleagues and with me, flipping through the paper and telling stories.
有一天,她和她的两位同事以及我坐在《芝加哥太阳时报》的办公室里,一边翻着报纸一边讲故事。
She talked about the gun ads that Timothy McVeigh used to take out in the Arizona Republic , back when she worked there, long before he blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma.
她谈到了蒂莫西·麦克维在亚利桑那共和国工作时曾在亚利桑那州拍摄的枪支广告,当时他炸毁了俄克拉荷马州的联邦大楼。
Or there was the time that Marilyn's own mother caught a thief when some stuff that had been stolen from one of their neighbors showed up in the For Sale ads.
或者有一次,玛丽莲的母亲抓住了一个小偷,因为从邻居那里偷来的一些东西出现在待售广告上。
Then Marilyn turned the page and spotted this ad in the used car section.
然后玛丽莲翻过这一页,在二手车区发现了这则广告。
OK, here's an ad.
好的,这是一个广告。
Here's an ad that tells me something.
这则广告告诉了我一些事情。
OK, I'm going to read this ad to you.
好的,我将把这个广告读给你听。
And I'm going to see, what do you think it tells you.
我要看看,你认为它告诉了你什么。
OK.
好的。
"Volvo, '92, a four-door sedan, automatic, mint condition in and out, 37K, Texas car, exclamation point, properly maintained and serviced, mechanically perfect, needs nothing.
“沃尔沃,92 年,四门轿车,自动挡,进出状态完好,37K,德克萨斯州汽车,感叹号,维护和保养得当,机械完美,什么都不需要。
Must see to believe, respect, and appreciate, $5,850," and the phone number.
必须相信、尊重和欣赏 5,850 美元”以及电话号码。
She looks at the three of us like, well, isn't it obvious?
她看着我们三个,好像在说,这不是很明显吗?
Then she points at the ad.
然后她指着广告。
This line, "must see to believe, respect, and appreciate," this person doesn't want to sell this car.
这句话,“必须看到才能相信、尊重、欣赏”,这个人不想卖这辆车。
Someone has forced him to sell this car.
有人强迫他卖掉这辆车。
It's either his wife, they had a baby, they have to get a minivan.
要么是他的妻子,他们有了孩子,他们必须买一辆小型货车。
I can tell he doesn't want to sell the car.
我看得出他不想卖车。
He's upset.
他很沮丧。
Respect it.
尊重它。
You must see to respect?
你必须看到尊重吗?
Marilyn says that, when you read your newspaper, you've got the news part of up front, which gives you the public life of the city.
玛丽莲说,当你阅读报纸时,你会预先看到新闻部分,从而了解这座城市的公共生活。
You have the sports.
你有运动。
You have the entertainment.
你有娱乐。
You have politics.
你有政治。
But if you read the classifieds, it's really about individual, personal lives.
但如果你读一下分类广告,就会发现它实际上是关于个人、个人生活的。
It's, "My children are grown up, do I really need the piano anymore?" It's, "I'm really broke.
它是,“我的孩子们都长大了,我真的还需要钢琴吗?”就是“我真的破产了。
I have to sell my possessions to live." I think you really get a sense of people's personal lives.
我必须卖掉我的财产才能生活。”我认为你真正了解人们的个人生活。
With that in mind, a few weeks ago, we the staff of this radio program, took one Sunday edition of the Chicago Sun-Times , and that same week's edition of the Chicago Reader , which is this weekly paper that we wanted to use, because of the musicians classifieds and the personal ads that they run.
考虑到这一点,几周前,我们这个广播节目的工作人员选择了周日版的《芝加哥太阳报》,以及同周版的《芝加哥读者》,这是我们想要使用的周报,因为有音乐家分类和他们投放的个人广告。
And then we hit the streets, tracking down the ads.
然后我们走上街头,追踪广告。
For instance, "New, never worn wedding dress, tulle beaded bodice, $750 or best offer." There are several wedding dresses and a bunch of wedding rings for sale in the Chicago Sun-Times.
例如,“全新、从未穿过的婚纱、薄纱串珠紧身胸衣,750 美元或最优惠价格。” 《芝加哥太阳报》上有几件婚纱和一堆结婚戒指出售。
Well, the bottom line was he didn't want to marry me anymore.
好吧,底线是他不想再跟我结婚了。
And I'll never get out of the dress what I put into it.
我永远不会把我放进去的东西从裙子里拿出来。
I know I'm not going to get the money, but I would like it to find a good home.
我知道我拿不到钱,但我希望能找到一个好归宿。
This is the woman who's selling this old-fashioned-looking dress.
这是卖这件老式衣服的女人。
Before she broke off the engagement, like in any relationship gone bad, every little thing seemed symbolic.
在她解除婚约之前,就像在任何恶化的关系中一样,每件小事似乎都具有象征意义。
I collected this Classic Pooh.
我收集了这个经典的维尼。
You know, Disney has this line of Winnie the Pooh stuff.
你知道,迪士尼有小熊维尼系列的东西。
And he bought me Mickey Mouse.
他给我买了米老鼠。
And I'm looking at it, going, "Why did you buy this?" And he said, "Well, they didn't have Classic Pooh." I'm like, "But I don't collect Mickey Mouse." It was just, I don't know.
我看着它,问道:“你为什么买这个?”他说:“好吧,他们没有经典维尼。”我想,“但我不收集米老鼠。”只是,我不知道。
You know me, but you don't care.
你了解我,但你不在乎。
The same weekend, two hours after talking to her, we followed up on this ad, "Agoraphobics In Motion, A-I-M, meets weekly in Lakeview East.
同一个周末,在与她交谈两小时后,我们跟进了这则广告,“运动中的广场恐惧症,A-I-M,每周在 Lakeview East 聚会。
Call for more details." Agoraphobics, you may or may not know, are people who fear going out into public, being around other people.
请致电了解更多详情。”您可能知道也可能不知道,广场恐惧症是指害怕出现在公共场合、害怕与其他人在一起的人。
And come Saturday at noon, when the meeting takes place, it's at a restaurant.
周六中午,会议在一家餐厅举行。
And guess what?
你猜怎么着?
Only one person has the courage to show up there.
只有一个人有勇气出现在那里。
Apparently, this is par for the course.
显然,这是理所当然的。
The nature of your fear is that you don't want to join groups.
你恐惧的本质是你不想加入群体。
But you have to join a group to get help for the problem.
但您必须加入一个小组才能获得解决问题的帮助。
So it turns into a little bit of a vicious circle.
所以这就变成了一个恶性循环。
Three hours later, a short drive away, there's this ad to answer.
三小时后,在不远的车程外,就有了这则广告需要回复。
"House sale, featuring vintage furniture, linens, jewelry, books, postcards, and a steamer trunk.
“房屋拍卖,包括古董家具、床单、珠宝、书籍、明信片和蒸箱。
Same owner for over 80 years."
80多年来一直是同一个主人。”
OK, we're trying to sell all the contents to help her pay for her nursing home.
好的,我们正在尝试出售所有物品,以帮助她支付疗养院的费用。
Kathy Gemperle and Pam Ball are running this house sale for a woman named Frances, who's lived here since 1919, but is not present today to see strangers pick through everything that she has ever owned.
凯西·詹珀勒 (Kathy Gemperle) 和帕姆·鲍尔 (Pam Ball) 正在为一位名叫弗朗西斯 (Frances) 的女士进行房屋拍卖,她自 1919 年起就住在这里,但今天却没有在场看到陌生人挑选她曾经拥有的一切。
She saved everything and organized her pen pal correspondences, carbon copies of letters, old birthday cards, all in plastic bags.
她保存了所有东西,并将笔友的信件、信件的复写本、旧生日贺卡都整理在塑料袋中。
As a librarian, she had a big collection of children's books.
作为一名图书管理员,她收藏了大量的儿童读物。
And she'd write in the front of her books where she bought them, under what circumstances.
她会在书的前面写下她在哪里买的,在什么情况下买的。
And not only that--
不仅如此——
She would write in a lot of these books, "Given to me by my dear brother." Well, he'd been dead for 30 years.
她会在很多这样的书中写道:“这是我亲爱的兄弟送给我的。”好吧,他已经死了 30 年了。
So she would gift herself books and then write in the frontispiece that it was from them.
所以她会送给自己一些书籍,然后在卷首插画上写下这是来自书籍的。
This is a book, and Frances wrote in it, "From my brothers Victor and Laurie in heaven, because I've always wanted this book.
这是一本书,弗朗西斯在其中写道:“来自我在天堂的兄弟维克多和劳里,因为我一直想要这本书。
To Frances on Thanksgiving." And then it's dated November 21, 1980.
感恩节送给弗朗西斯。”然后日期是 1980 年 11 月 21 日。
I mean, the inscriptions in these, "There was a vacant spot in my heart.
我的意思是,其中的铭文是:“我的心里有一个空位。
Now it's filled with a great love, a love that's everlasting, my love for Frances." Her mother.
现在它充满了伟大的爱,一种永恒的爱,我对弗朗西斯的爱。”她的母亲。
In this one day of classifieds, there are all the people trying to adopt babies, and all the formerly adopted babies who are now adults looking for their parents.
在这一天的分类广告里,有所有想收养婴儿的人,也有所有曾经被收养的婴儿,现在已经成年,正在寻找父母。
There's a church selling off all its furniture, and the death notice placed by Local 17 of the Heat and Frost Insulators Union for one of its members.
一座教堂变卖了所有的家具,当地 17 号隔热防霜者联盟为其一名成员发出了死亡通知。
There are those weird ads that say "I am not responsible for the debts of so-and-so." And, this is a real ad, [?
有些奇怪的广告说“我不对某某人的债务负责”。而且,这是一个真实的广告,[?
"Dan Earler, ?] if your belongings are not removed from 6123 South Archer Road, they will be discarded." And there are prayers.
“Dan Earler,?] 如果你的物品没有从 6123 South Archer Road 移走,它们将被丢弃。”还有祈祷。
There are lots of prayers, every day in the newspaper.
报纸上每天都有很多祈祷。
Well, from WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life , distributed by Public Radio International.
好吧,这是芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》,由国际公共广播电台发行。
Today on our program, something we have never tried before, and we're not sure anybody has ever tried this before.
今天在我们的节目中,这是我们以前从未尝试过的,并且我们不确定以前是否有人尝试过。
We bring you an entire hour of stories found from one day's classifieds.
我们为您带来一整小时从一天的分类广告中找到的故事。
We use the Chicago Sun-Times from Sunday, August 25, and the same week's edition of the Chicago Reader.
我们使用 8 月 25 日星期日起的《芝加哥太阳报》以及同周的《芝加哥读者报》。
The classifieds are a public space where intensely private thoughts are being expressed all the time, much like this radio program.
分类广告是一个公共空间,一直在表达强烈的私人想法,就像这个广播节目一样。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
OK, maybe this is a cheap move, but we're going to start our radio program today with the most poignant possible elements for any story.
好吧,也许这是一个廉价的举动,但我们今天将以任何故事中最令人心酸的元素开始我们的广播节目。
They are the lost and found column and a puppy.
他们是失物招领栏和一只小狗。
Here's the ad.
这是广告。
Stolen dog, black, toy poodle named Isis.
被盗的狗,黑色,玩具贵宾犬,名叫伊希斯。
Stolen 7/27/02 from the Armitage-Kinzie area.
2002 年 7 月 27 日从 Armitage-Kinzie 地区被盗。
Call 312-719-3669.
请致电 312-719-3669。
The production manager for our show, Todd Bachmann, who normally is not on the air, but who helps us get our show on the air, wanted to get in on the action this week.
我们节目的制作经理托德·巴赫曼(Todd Bachmann)通常不在直播中,但他帮助我们播出节目,他想在本周参与其中。
And he was the one to check out this ad.
他是查看这则广告的人。
When I saw this ad, the thing that hooked me was the word "stolen." The toy poodle wasn't lost, like most missing dogs are, but abducted.
当我看到这个广告时,最吸引我的是“被盗”这个词。这只玩具贵宾犬并没有像大多数失踪的狗一样丢失,而是被绑架了。
Leo, the author of this ad, was working in his garage while Isis played in the fenced yard just outside.
这则广告的作者里奥正在他的车库里工作,而伊希斯则在外面有围栏的院子里玩耍。
When he came out, Isis was gone.
当他出来时,伊希斯已经走了。
His best guess about what happened is sort of incredible.
他对所发生事情的最佳猜测有点令人难以置信。
Leo thinks Isis was taken by a puppy mill for breeding.
利奥认为伊西斯被一家小狗工厂带走进行繁殖。
Some neighborhood kids say they saw a woman come into Leo's yard and chase Isis around and around until she finally caught the toy poodle and ran off, kind of like a scene from 101 Dalmatians.
一些邻居的孩子说,他们看到一个女人走进 Leo 的院子,追着 Isis 转了一圈又一圈,直到她最终抓住了玩具贵宾犬并逃跑了,有点像《101 斑点狗》中的场景。
So when I asked the kids, then everything hit the rotary oscillator.
所以当我问孩子们时,一切都击中了旋转振荡器。
I don't know.
我不知道。
Being a locksmith, there's a right and a wrong.
作为一名锁匠,有对有错。
And what's mine is mine, and what's yours is yours.
而且,我的就是我的,你的就是你的。
And I like to keep the status quo.
我喜欢保持现状。
OK?
好的?
That's why I'm in the profession, to help keep that status quo.
这就是我从事这个行业的原因,以帮助保持现状。
Leo misses Isis, and says his older dog, a 13-year-old Shih Tzu named Button, misses her, too.
Leo 想念 Isis,并说他的大狗、一只名叫 Button 的 13 岁西施犬也想念她。
Leo had big plans for Isis.
利奥对伊斯兰国有着宏伟的计划。
What I wanted to do was mate her with Button for puppies.
我想做的就是把她和巴顿交配,生下小狗。
Yeah, Shih Tzu and poodle, a shidoodle.
是的,西施犬和贵宾犬,一只狮子狗。
The best of both worlds, the little bit of playfulness, and the ability to do certain tricks and stuff, and then the calmness of the Shih Tzu.
两全其美,一点点的顽皮,以及做某些技巧之类的能力,然后是西施犬的冷静。
Leo had adopted Isis only months prior to her theft, from a family who couldn't handle Isis's incontinence.
就在伊西斯被盗几个月前,利奥收养了伊西斯,收养家庭无法处理伊西斯的失禁问题。
According to Leo, this family just didn't get Isis at all.
据利奥说,这个家庭根本就没有受到伊斯兰国的影响。
They called her Amber.
他们称她为琥珀。
The dog is jet black, all black, gloss black, curly hair, except for the little red in the mustache.
这只狗全身漆黑,通体黑色,亮黑色,毛发卷曲,除了小胡子上有一点点红色。
And they called her Amber.
他们叫她琥珀。
I have no clue why anybody would call a black dog Amber.
我不知道为什么有人会称黑狗为琥珀。
And once her face was shaved, immediately I thought of a black granite statue of the Egyptian goddess, Isis.
一旦她的脸被剃掉,我立刻就想到了埃及女神伊希斯的黑色花岗岩雕像。
And when I said Isis, she just perked up her years.
当我说“伊希斯”时,她的岁月又重新焕发了活力。
And her hair stood on end.
她的头发都竖起来了。
You could just see that, her face cocked and everything, she liked that word.
你可以看到,她的脸翘起,一切,她喜欢这个词。
So that was her name.
这就是她的名字。
I spent a few hours with Leo, running around in his minivan on his quest to rescue Isis.
我和利奥一起度过了几个小时,开着他的小货车到处跑,寻找营救伊斯兰国的行动。
In addition to the classified ad Leo has in all the major daily and weekly papers in Chicago, he's flooded his local park with flyers, and has even taped an enlarged five foot by five foot version of it to his minivan.
除了在芝加哥所有主要日报和周报上刊登的分类广告外,Leo 还在当地的公园里贴满了传单,甚至还在他的小型货车上贴了放大的 5 英尺 x 5 英尺版本的传单。
The flyers also offer a reward of $20.
传单还提供 20 美元的奖励。
I'm a small guy.
我是一个小家伙。
And I could offer the $100 reward or something.
我可以提供 100 美元的奖励或其他什么。
But I don't want the people to think that they can just steal a dog and get a lot of reward.
但我不希望人们认为他们可以偷狗并获得很多奖励。
I want them to realize also that the person that they stole the dog from doesn't have much, that that's not wealthy.
我也希望他们认识到,他们偷狗的人并没有多少钱,也不富有。
Just because I got a poodle doesn't mean that I live in a Taj Mahal.
仅仅因为我有一只贵宾犬并不意味着我住在泰姬陵。
We head to the animal shelter, which brings in newly captured dogs from off the streets every seven days.
我们前往动物收容所,那里每 7 天就会从街上引进新捕获的狗。
[BARKING] Leo You be nice, or nobody's going to adopt you.
[咆哮] Leo 你要乖一点,否则没人会收养你。
Now, do you think anybody's going to want to adopt those teeth?
现在,你认为有人会想要收养这些牙齿吗?
After scouring the rows of cages without success, we decide to head over to a Spanish-speaking paper called La Raza to place yet another ad.
在搜寻了一排排笼子但没有成功后,我们决定前往一家名为 La Raza 的西班牙语报纸刊登另一则广告。
Is this a help wanted ad?
这是招聘广告吗?
Leo No, this is I had my dog stolen a while ago.
Leo 不,这是我的狗不久前被偷了。
I talked to you on the phone.
我在电话里和你谈过。
For the ad in La Raza, Leo decides to take a more creative approach.
对于 La Raza 的广告,Leo 决定采取更有创意的方法。
He has the man at the desk read the ad back to him to make sure he got every word.
他让前台人员将广告读给他听,以确保他听懂了每一个字。
Isis.
伊希斯。
Man Isis.
男人伊希斯。
May have a contagious disease, lepto.
可能患有传染性疾病,麻风病。
Can cause liver or kidney failure in humans.
可导致人类肝或肾衰竭。
Symptoms: dry moth, shaky hands, light-headed, dizziness, [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
症状:干蛾、手颤抖、头晕、头晕、[无法辨认]。
Desperate, after five dogless weeks, Leo has decided to put out an ad that says Isis suffers from a dog disease which is contagious to humans.
在没有狗的五周后,利奥绝望地决定发布一则广告,称伊希斯患有一种会传染给人类的狗病。
He hopes that whoever took Isis will see the ad and come running back for some kind of antidote.
他希望抓走伊斯兰国的人能看到广告并跑回来寻求某种解药。
So that would be $25.50.
那么就是 25.50 美元。
Leo You guys ought to feel kind of ashamed of yourselves.
狮子座你们应该为自己感到羞耻。
Everybody else gave me at least one free ad.
其他人至少给了我一则免费广告。
Is that right?
是这样吗?
Leo Yeah, because of the lost dog and stuff.
Leo 是的,因为丢了狗之类的东西。
OK, well, you know what, I'm going to do the same thing.
好吧,你知道吗,我也会做同样的事情。
I'll go ahead and run the ad at no extra charge.
我将继续投放广告,无需额外付费。
OK, cool.
好吧,酷。
Man Yeah, yeah.
男人 是啊,是啊。
I feel for you.
我对你有感觉。
Despite all of Leo's ingenuity and effort, the ads just don't seem to be working.
尽管里奥付出了很多聪明才智和努力,但这些广告似乎并没有起到作用。
Even Leo says that if you don't find your dog after the first couple of hours, it's pretty unlikely you ever will.
就连利奥也说,如果你在最初的几个小时后还没有找到你的狗,那么你就不太可能找到它。
He keeps putting ads in the paper, though.
不过,他还是不断在报纸上刊登广告。
He doesn't know what else to do.
他不知道还能做什么。
Well, Todd, thanks for that report.
好吧,托德,谢谢你的报告。
Let's try one last thing, since the ad doesn't seem to be finding Isis.
让我们尝试最后一件事,因为广告似乎没有找到 Isis。
We're joined in the studio here, Todd--
我们加入这里的工作室,托德——
That's me.
那就是我。
And Button.
和按钮。
Ira Glass And Button.
Ira 玻璃和按钮。
Button is right here.
按钮就在这里。
Leo, over a million people are listening to us right now on the radio.
利奥,现在有超过一百万人在广播中收听我们的节目。
So if I could just ask the people who are listening to just take a moment and turn the volume up on your radios.
因此,如果我可以请正在听的人花点时间并调高收音机的音量。
OK, Leo, call the dog.
好的,利奥,叫狗来。
All right, if anybody hearing our voices right now notices a black poodle barking or wagging its tail in the vicinity-- what's the number to call?
好吧,如果有人现在听到我们的声音,注意到附近有一只黑色贵宾犬在吠叫或摇尾巴,请拨打什么电话?
312-719-3669.
312-719-3669。
You can turn your volume down now.
您现在可以调低音量。
It doesn't have to be so loud.
不必那么大声。
[MUSIC - "ISIS" BY BOB DYLAN] Ira Glass Actually, no need to call that number.
[音乐 - BOB DYLAN 创作的“ISIS”] Ira Glass 实际上,无需拨打该号码。
Back in 2002, a couple weeks after the ad appeared in the paper, Leo found Isis.
早在 2002 年,广告出现在报纸上几周后,利奥就找到了伊斯兰国。
Some neighbors found her barking in their backyard.
一些邻居发现她在后院吠叫。
Well, the Help Wanted section of the Sun-Times on August 25 was a thin four pages, which is a shame, because if you count people these days who have given up on finding a job, and people who are working part-time but want full-time work, the jobless rate in America right now is nearly 10%, according to the US Labor Department.
嗯,《太阳时报》8月25日的招聘栏只有薄薄的四页,这真是可惜,因为如果算上现在放弃找工作的人和那些做兼职但想全职工作的人,根据美国劳工部的数据,美国目前的失业率接近10%。
That is really high.
那确实很高。
That's the highest since the 1980s.
这是自 20 世纪 80 年代以来的最高水平。
And a lot of people who go to the Help Wanted section of the newspaper for jobs are people on the margins of society, people who need a job to reenter the world.
许多到报纸“招聘”版块寻找工作的人都是处于社会边缘的人,他们需要工作才能重新融入世界。
Here are two of them.
这是其中两个。
Yes.
是的。
My name is [?
我的名字是 [?
William Telposci, ?] and I would like to set up an interview for your waiting staff.
William Telposci,?] 我想为您的服务员安排一次采访。
And I was-- oh, OK.
我是——哦,好吧。
Oh, OK.
哦,好吧。
OK, thank you.
好的,谢谢。
[PHONE DIALING] Helen Good morning, Mr. Chadbury.
[电话拨号] 海伦 早上好,查德伯里先生。
How are you?
你好吗?
It's going fine.
一切顺利。
My name is [?
我的名字是 [?
Helen Bowler, ?] and I saw that you have a listing for a waitress wanted.
海伦·鲍勒,?]我看到你们有一份招聘女服务员的清单。
And I'm wondering, could I come by today or tomorrow and do an interview?
我想知道我今天或明天可以过来接受采访吗?
Today would be better?
今天会更好吗?
What time?
什么时候?
My name is William, and I've been looking for a job for a year, faxing resumes, filling out applications.
我叫威廉,我找工作已经一年了,传真简历、填写申请表。
I usually try to fill out at least 10 a day.
我通常尝试每天至少填写 10 个。
I'm looking at the Help Wanted ads.
我正在看招聘广告。
Over the past few days, I've been to McDonald's, Burger King, White Castle, Kmart, Walgreens, Chuck E.
在过去的几天里,我去过麦当劳、汉堡王、White Castle、Kmart、Walgreens、Chuck E.
Cheese, all over the place.
奶酪,到处都是。
We are in Presidential Plaza, and we're on our away up to the 40th floor, to the Plaza Club in search of employment.
我们在总统广场,正在前往 40 楼的广场俱乐部寻找工作。
And now we're on the 40th floor.
现在我们在 40 楼。
This is a beautiful view.
这是一个美丽的景色。
This job is a banquet service job for an upscale, hoity-toity club.
这份工作是为一家高档、夸张的俱乐部提供宴会服务的工作。
Looks like where some snooty white folks come and drink after work.
看起来像是一些傲慢的白人下班后来这里喝酒的地方。
Hi.
你好。
How's it going?
怎么样了?
Helen Hi, how are you?
海伦嗨,你好吗?
OK.
好的。
And what are the kind of hours that you're looking for?
您正在寻找什么样的工作时间?
I'm looking for either early mornings or late evenings.
我正在寻找清晨或深夜。
Breakast and lunch shift.
早餐和午餐轮班。
Helen Wonderful shift.
海伦 精彩的转变。
Are you looking for something in fine dining, or are you looking for something in catering?
您是在寻找精致餐饮的东西,还是在寻找餐饮方面的东西?
I always give myself a two-month span at looking for a job.
我总是给自己两个月的时间来找工作。
Sure, I have.
当然,我有。
Helen If that doesn't happen, at the end of my 60 days, then I take whatever is available, whatever I can find.
海伦:如果这没有发生,那么在我的 60 天结束时,我就会采取任何可用的、任何我能找到的东西。
I'm not particular anymore after the end of the 60-day run.
60 天的跑步结束后,我不再挑剔了。
It's been actually about 55 days already.
实际上已经过去了大约55天。
So I'm pretty much getting fed up.
所以我已经厌倦了。
If no one has called me by Monday morning of next week, then I'm going to go and get whatever I can get, even if it is a car wash job.
如果到下周星期一早上还没有人给我打电话,那么我就会去拿我能拿到的任何东西,即使是洗车工作。
Yeah, so at this time, I'm just taking the applications.
是的,所以现在我只是在接受申请。
And I am definitely going to give you a call by Friday.
我肯定会在周五之前给你打电话。
OK?
好的?
And thank you for taking out some day on your busy schedule.
感谢您在百忙之中抽出一天时间。
You're very welcome.
非常不客气。
My pleasure.
我的荣幸。
My pleasure.
我的荣幸。
Being a single parent, I guess I just haven't figured out how to do it all and work at the same time.
作为一个单亲家长,我想我只是不知道如何同时完成这一切和工作。
So periodically, when my family needs me, I will not work.
所以有时候,当我的家人需要我时,我就不会工作。
And when I need to quit, I quit.
当我需要退出时,我就退出了。
I don't like it to be that way, because it makes me look unstable.
我不喜欢这样,因为这让我看起来不稳定。
But I have to do what I have to do in order to prepare my family to go out there and do something, so their resumes never have to look like this one.
但我必须做我必须做的事情,以便让我的家人做好准备出去做一些事情,所以他们的简历永远不必像这样。
We're going in to the Cheesecake Factory.
我们要去芝士蛋糕工厂。
I was wonder if you were accepting applications for employment.
我想知道你们是否接受就业申请。
You can fill it out upstairs, and just give it to me after you're done.
你可以在楼上填一下,填完后给我就可以了。
My name's William.
我叫威廉。
I was wondering if you were accepting applications for employment.
我想知道你们是否接受就业申请。
I'm here about the job for the dishwasher, and--
我来这里是为了洗碗机的工作,而且——
Fill out the application, and they'll call you back.
填写申请表,他们会给您回电。
OK?
好的?
Well, we're just at the John Hancock center for a security job.
嗯,我们只是在约翰汉考克中心做保安工作。
But I found out that I don't qualify, because they want a blue card, meaning having a clean record, and a GED or high school diploma.
但我发现我不符合资格,因为他们想要一张蓝卡,意思是拥有干净的记录,以及 GED 或高中文凭。
And I don't have either one.
而我两者都没有。
I'm 39, and I've been jobless for about five years.
我今年 39 岁,失业已经五年了。
And I've been doing job search for the past year.
去年我一直在找工作。
I worked 15 years in a fast food restaurant.
我在一家快餐店工作了 15 年。
And I was a gas station attendant, groundskeeper for a cemetery, and for about two years, I was a short order cook.
我是一名加油站服务员、一个墓地的场地管理员,大约有两年的时间,我是一名快餐厨师。
I went in to work drunk one day.
有一天,我喝醉了去上班。
And that's when I found out that I had a real serious alcohol problem.
就在那时我发现我有一个非常严重的酗酒问题。
And it took me from that time up until today to do something about the alcohol problem.
从那时起直到今天我才开始对酒精问题做一些事情。
It's been 13 months since I had a drink.
我已经13个月没有喝酒了。
Cocaine and heroin, that was my drug of choice.
可卡因和海洛因,那是我选择的药物。
Occasionally, I would take a drink.
偶尔,我也会喝一杯。
And in between using heroin and getting sober, I gave birth to two children.
在吸食海洛因和戒酒之间,我生了两个孩子。
I have this friend of mine.
我有一个朋友。
He prefers living out on the street, no money or nothing.
他更喜欢流落街头,没有钱,什么也没有。
That's what he chooses, for that to be his life.
这就是他的选择,因为这就是他的生活。
And I was going down that road, myself.
我自己也正沿着这条路走下去。
I had been what they call a kept woman.
我就是他们所谓的“包养女人”。
I always met men that wanted to take care of me.
我总是遇到想要照顾我的男人。
So a job wasn't important.
所以工作并不重要。
I was young.
我还年轻。
And I wasn't thinking about tomorrow or I have no 401(k) plan, I have no old age into retirement money.
我没有考虑明天,或者我没有 401(k) 计划,我没有老年退休金。
So I wasn't thinking about all that stuff.
所以我没有考虑所有这些事情。
Because when you're 18, you think you're going to live forever.
因为当你18岁的时候,你认为你会永远活着。
I think turning 40 made a big difference in how I want to do things from now on.
我认为 40 岁对我今后做事的方式产生了很大的影响。
Then being a grandmother just really blew me out of the water.
然后成为一名祖母真的让我大吃一惊。
Whoa.
哇哦。
And I've gained more respect for authority figures.
我对权威人物也有了更多的尊重。
So it'll be easier working now, because I've accepted the fact that I do need a job.
所以现在工作会更容易,因为我已经接受了我确实需要工作的事实。
So that calls for me to humble myself now, where I wasn't early on in life.
因此,这要求我现在谦卑自己,而我在生命的早期并不是这样。
When I was growing up, my mother always told me that little things mean a lot.
在我成长的过程中,妈妈总是告诉我,小事情意义重大。
That's why I get myself up in the morning, get myself out of the house to fill out the applications, get the newspaper, fax out resumes.
这就是为什么我早上起床,走出家门填写申请表,拿报纸,传真简历。
I wish I could answer what's taken me so long on getting a job.
我希望我能回答为什么我花了这么长时间才找到工作。
William and Helen talked with Joe Richman of Radio Diaries.
威廉和海伦与广播日记的乔·里奇曼进行了交谈。
He put together their stories and thanks Strive, an employment service here in Chicago.
他将他们的故事放在一起,并感谢芝加哥的就业服务机构“Strive”。
Coming up, Jon Langford of the Mekons and the Waco Brothers tries to find out whether it is possible to create a workable band from the newspaper ads in just one day.
接下来,梅肯斯和韦科兄弟的乔恩·兰福德试图找出是否有可能在一天内从报纸广告中创建一支可行的乐队。
That's from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International in a minute, when our program continues.
当我们的节目继续时,这是芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台的消息。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
If you're just tuning in, all this hour, we're bringing you stories that we got from the classified ads that appeared on just one day, August 25, in the Chicago Sun-Times, and in the Chicago Reader that same week.
如果您刚刚收看,这一个小时,我们将为您带来我们从 8 月 25 日这一天的分类广告中获得的故事,这些广告出现在《芝加哥太阳报》和同周的《芝加哥读者报》上。
Often with the classifieds, you'll come across an ad where somebody is looking for something.
通常,在分类广告中,您会看到有人正在寻找某物的广告。
And then, practically right alongside that ad, there is somebody else who is offering the very thing that that person is seeking.
然后,几乎就在该广告旁边,还有其他人正在提供该人正在寻找的东西。
You've seen this?
你见过这个吗?
This seems to be especially true in the musicians classifieds.
这在音乐家分类广告中似乎尤其如此。
You'll see guitarist looking for drummer.
你会看到吉他手在寻找鼓手。
And then right there, you'll see drummer looking for guitarist, right on the same page.
然后就在那里,您会在同一页面上看到鼓手正在寻找吉他手。
It's kind of heartbreaking, really.
真的有点令人心碎。
So we got to thinking, what if somebody were to play matchmaker for all of those people and do what all of us think when we see those ads?
所以我们开始思考,如果有人为所有这些人充当媒人,并按照我们看到这些广告时的想法去做,会怎么样?
Well, our producer Starlee Kine recruited Jon Langford of the Mekons to do just that, to go through the classifieds and create a band, a band culled entirely from the classifieds, to play together for exactly one day, long enough to gather together in a recording studio to record their one and only song.
好吧,我们的制作人 Starlee Kine 聘请了 Mekons 乐队的乔恩·兰福德 (Jon Langford) 来做这件事,浏览分类广告并创建一支乐队,一支完全从分类广告中挑选出来的乐队,一起演奏整整一天,足够长的时间聚集在录音室里录制他们唯一的一首歌。
Starlee?
斯塔莉?
Jon's never had to turn to the classifieds for bandmates.
乔恩从来不需要通过分类广告来寻找乐队成员。
His band, the Three Johns, were such close friends that all three of them slept in the same bed while on tour.
他的乐队“三约翰”是非常亲密的朋友,以至于他们三个在巡演时都睡在同一张床上。
His country punk band, the Waco Brothers, was started at a club one night as a way to get free beer.
一天晚上,他的乡村朋克乐队韦科兄弟在一家俱乐部成立,目的是为了获得免费啤酒。
And the Mekons, who have been together for 25 years, is mostly people he went to school with in Leeds.
梅肯一家已经在一起 25 年了,他们大多是他在利兹上学时的同学。
We have never really decided to form a band.
我们从来没有真正决定组建一支乐队。
They've just kind of appeared.
他们就这样出现了。
It's like, you'd be sitting around in the pub and saying, "Well, we need to be in a band.
就像,你坐在酒吧里说:“好吧,我们需要加入乐队。
Everybody else is in a band.
其他人都在乐队里。
Why don't we have one?" And it's been people pretty close to yourself, and with similar tastes.
为什么我们没有一个?”而且是那些与你非常接近、品味相似的人。
We chose seven different musicians.
我们选择了七位不同的音乐家。
The only thing they had in common was that no two of them would have played together under any other imaginable circumstance.
他们唯一的共同点是,在任何其他可以想象的情况下,他们两个都不会一起打球。
Ad number one, "Indie rock bassist and drummer available with practice bass in suburbs.
第一个广告是“独立摇滚贝斯手和鼓手可以在郊区练习贝斯。
Influences include Shellac, Fugazi, Mogwai, and Blonde Redhead.
影响包括虫胶、Fugazi、Mogwai 和 Blonde Redhead。
Contact Ben." This is from their demo.
联系本。”这是他们的演示。
[MUSIC PLAYING] Ad number two, "Smooth, sultry, soulful female vocalist seeks jazz musicians for band."
[音乐播放] 广告二号,“流畅、性感、深情的女歌手为乐队寻找爵士乐手。”
[MUSIC PLAYING] Ad three, an acid funk percussionist named Steve.
[音乐播放] 广告三,一位名叫史蒂夫的酸性放克打击乐手。
Ad four, an electric violinist named Nathan.
广告四,一位名叫内森(Nathan)的电子小提琴家。
He's working on a rock opera about a conspiracy theory.
他正在创作一部关于阴谋论的摇滚歌剧。
And at present, that's all he's at liberty to say about it.
目前,他能自由地说的就只有这些。
Ad five, "Experienced contemporary Christian worship leader musician, plays guitar.
广告五,“经验丰富的当代基督教敬拜领袖音乐家,弹吉他。
Available for Bible studies and large or small church situations."
适用于圣经研究和大型或小型教堂场合。”
[MUSIC PLAYING] Ad number six wasn't like the other ads in the musician classifieds.
[音乐播放] 六号广告与音乐家分类中的其他广告不同。
It caught our eyes immediately.
它立刻引起了我们的注意。
"Theremin effects and song player wants an audition to amaze you.
“特雷门琴效果和歌曲演奏者想要试镜,让你大吃一惊。
I also play an incredible musical saw." We've got to go meet this guy.
我还会演奏令人难以置信的音乐锯。”我们得去见见这个人。
We're going.
我们走了。
We're there.
我们就在那里。
Jon Langford I'll tell you what.
乔恩·兰福德 我会告诉你什么。
There's not much amazes me anymore.
已经没有太多让我惊讶的事情了。
That sounds terribly cynical, but I really am desperate to be amazed.
这听起来非常愤世嫉俗,但我真的很想感到惊讶。
The theremin, of course, is the only instrument in the world that you play without touching.
当然,特雷门琴是世界上唯一无需触摸即可演奏的乐器。
You just wave your hand through the air above it, which alters the electromagnetic field.
你只需在其上方的空气中挥动你的手,就会改变电磁场。
Somehow, this produces a sound like a flying saucer in an old episode of The Twilight Zone.
不知何故,这会产生类似《暮光之城》老剧集中飞碟的声音。
We ring his doorbell.
我们按响他的门铃。
Hello.
你好。
Jon Langford Hello, Eric.
乔恩·兰福德 你好,埃里克。
It's Jon and Starlee.
这是乔恩和斯塔莉。
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Eric Mueller, ?] the theremin player, turns out to be a retired factory worker who lives in one of those overstuffed apartments where every corner is fulled with tchotchkes and souvenirs from all over the world, in other words, pretty much exactly where you would imagine a theremin player living.
埃里克·穆勒(Eric Mueller),?] 特雷门琴演奏者,原来是一名退休的工厂工人,住在一间拥挤的公寓里,每个角落都堆满了来自世界各地的小玩意和纪念品,换句话说,这几乎就是你想象的特雷门琴演奏者居住的地方。
How are you?
你好吗?
Starlee Kine I'm OK, how are you?
斯塔莉·凯恩 我很好,你好吗?
There are pictures of his wife and family everywhere.
到处都是他妻子和家人的照片。
And it's the only apartment I've ever seen with a hand-painted mural that covers an entire wall and features both a waterfall and a volcano.
这是我见过的唯一一间带有手绘壁画的公寓,壁画覆盖了整面墙,并以瀑布和火山为特色。
Wow, wow.
哇,哇。
We head into a little room in the back of the apartment, and he flips on a theremin, a thin, black box which looks no cooler than a clock radio.
我们走进公寓后面的一个小房间,他打开了特雷门琴,这是一个薄薄的黑盒子,看起来并不比时钟收音机酷。
[THEREMIN PLAYING] Eric Mueller Would you like something classical, or would you like something contemporary?
[演奏中] Eric Mueller 您想要古典音乐还是现代音乐?
What would you like to have?
你想要点什么?
How about "Danny Boy?" Eric Mueller Do you like that song?
《丹尼男孩》怎么样?埃里克·穆勒 你喜欢那首歌吗?
He pops a floppy disk into a keyboard for accompaniment, and positions himself in front of the theremin.
他将一张软盘插入键盘作为伴奏,然后站在特雷门琴前。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "DANNY BOY" BY FREDERIC WEATHERLY]
[音乐播放 - 弗雷德里克·韦瑟利的《丹尼男孩》]
Eric's a 60-something-year-old man in a royal blue tank top and matching blue gym shorts.
埃里克是一位 60 多岁的男人,穿着宝蓝色背心和配套的蓝色运动短裤。
He's warm and grandfatherly.
他很温暖,很有祖父般的感觉。
If he had reached down and pulled a "who's got your nose" on me, I would have been ready for it.
如果他伸手对我说“谁惹你了”,我早就做好了准备。
But when he sits down in front of his theremin, everything changes.
但当他坐在特雷门琴前时,一切都变了。
This look comes over his face, a mixture of utter calm and complete confidence.
他脸上的神情充满了绝对的平静和完全的自信。
His factory worker hands glide through the air.
他工厂工人的双手在空中滑行。
It's graceful, with a perfect economy of motion.
它很优雅,动作也很经济。
I turn to Jon, and his mouth is open.
我转向乔恩,他张开了嘴。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "DANNY BOY" BY FREDERIC WEATHERLY]
[音乐播放 - 弗雷德里克·韦瑟利的《丹尼男孩》]
Well, we were going to ask you to amaze us, and you did.
好吧,我们想让你给我们带来惊喜,你做到了。
You just did.
你刚刚做到了。
You speak the truth.
你说实话。
Jon Langford I'm amazed.
乔恩·兰福德 我很惊讶。
I told you, I'm amazed.
我告诉过你,我很惊讶。
I came here.
我来到这里。
I was going to say, I was going to ring your doorbell and go, Eric, amaze me.
我想说,我要按响你的门铃然后走,埃里克,让我惊讶一下。
But then you wouldn't have let me in.
但那样的话你就不会让我进去。
Before we arrived, we hadn't understood that when Eric says in his ad, let me grant you an audition to amaze you, he literally means exactly that.
在我们到达之前,我们并不明白,当埃里克在他的广告中说“让我给你一次试镜机会,让你大吃一惊”时,他的字面意思就是这个意思。
He brings people to his home, plays for them, amazes them as promised, and then never, ever joins anyone's band.
他把人们带到他的家,为他们演奏,按照承诺让他们惊叹,然后永远不会加入任何人的乐队。
It's just not what he's looking for.
这不是他要找的。
To be just a part of a big group, I don't know if I could be happy in that kind of a situation.
作为一个大团体的一员,我不知道在这种情况下我是否会感到高兴。
I've always played the solo.
我一直都是独奏。
Nonetheless, he agrees to sign up for our band.
尽管如此,他还是同意加入我们的乐队。
Later, back at Jon's house, the difficulty of what we're going to do starts to sink in.
后来,回到乔恩的家,我们开始意识到我们要做的事情有多困难。
What song could unite an acid funk conga player, a sultry jazz singer, two indie rockers, a Christian guitarist, an electric violinist, and an amazing theremin player?
哪首歌可以将一个迷幻放克康加鼓演奏家、一个性感爵士乐歌手、两个独立摇滚歌手、一个基督教吉他手、一个电子小提琴手和一个令人惊叹的特雷门琴演奏家结合在一起?
What one composer could shoulder the burden?
哪一位作曲家能够担负起这个重担呢?
I don't know why I keep thinking Elton John.
我不知道为什么我一直在想埃尔顿·约翰。
Maybe we should do an Elton John song, because everybody likes Elton John, don't they?
也许我们应该唱一首埃尔顿·约翰的歌,因为每个人都喜欢埃尔顿·约翰,不是吗?
Even I like Elton John sometimes.
甚至我有时也喜欢埃尔顿·约翰。
There's certain Elton John songs I love.
我喜欢埃尔顿·约翰的某些歌曲。
I like "Rocket Man." I think that's a brilliant song.
我喜欢《火箭人》。我认为这是一首很棒的歌曲。
I think it's going to be a long, long time, since touchdown brings me down again to find, I'm not the man they think I am at home.
我想这将是很长很长的一段时间,因为着陆让我再次发现,我不是他们认为的在家的那个人。
Oh, no, no no. I'm a rocket man.
哦,不,不,不。我是火箭人。
Yeah, I mean, maybe "Rocket Man." We could have space effects in it.
是的,我的意思是,也许是“火箭人”。我们可以在其中添加空间效果。
You know, the theremin.
你知道,特雷门琴。
Why don't we do "Rocket Man"?
我们为什么不拍《火箭人》呢?
Let's ask them if they'd do "Rocket Man."
让我们问问他们是否愿意出演《火箭人》。
Hey, how you doing?
嘿,你好吗?
Nice to meet you, man.
很高兴认识你,伙计。
That's Sam, playing guitar.
那是萨姆,正在弹吉他。
That's Eric, with the theremin.
那是埃里克,拿着特雷门琴。
The big day arrives.
大日子到来了。
One by one, members of our one-day band show up at the studio, where Jon had recorded most of his own albums.
我们一日乐队的成员一一出现在录音室,乔恩在那里录制了他自己的大部分专辑。
Eric, the theremin player, brings his wife.
特雷门琴演奏家埃里克(Eric)带着他的妻子。
And just like in any situation, the cliques immediately form.
就像在任何情况下一样,派系立即形成。
The rhythm section hits it off immediately.
节奏部分立刻一拍即合。
They make musician jokes, like changing the time signature from a 4/4 to a 6/8, that crack each other up.
他们会开一些音乐家笑话,比如把拍号从 4/4 改成 6/8,这让彼此都很开心。
Every band has the guy who's a quiet lone wolf.
每个乐队都有一个安静的独狼。
And in this band, it's the electric violinist.
而在这个乐队中,就是电子小提琴手。
He's off in the corner, practicing his violin and not talking to anyone.
他在角落里练习小提琴,没有和任何人说话。
When I ask how he's doing, he tells me he can't hear himself through his headphones.
当我问他怎么样时,他告诉我他通过耳机听不到自己的声音。
And then he utters the last sentence you hope to hear when you're throwing a group of strangers together in a band.
然后他说出了当你把一群陌生人组成乐队时你希望听到的最后一句话。
He proceeds to scare me with stories of other recording sessions he'd been in.
他继续用他参加过的其他录音的故事来吓唬我。
Well, that was the same situation.
嗯,那是同样的情况。
I was in a studio like this, and I couldn't hear myself very well.
我在这样的录音室里,我听不清自己的声音。
So I took the violin by the neck, right here, and I basically just took it like, I don't know, an ax, and just went bam, and pieces went flying everywhere.
所以我抓住了小提琴的脖子,就在这里,我基本上就像是,我不知道,一把斧头,然后砰的一声,碎片飞得到处都是。
And you've done this-- Man Twice, actually.
事实上,你已经做到了这一点——两次。
Musicians jam together a little.
音乐家们聚集在一起。
The singer, Karen, had told me on the phone that she hadn't played in public a lot, and she felt sort of shy about the whole thing.
歌手凯伦在电话中告诉我,她很少在公共场合演出,她对整件事感到有点害羞。
But there's something about the dynamic of being the singer in front of six musicians, that as soon as she gets up there, she seems to change, take charge.
但作为六位音乐家面前的歌手,她一站到那里,她似乎就改变了,掌控了一切。
And the band defers to her.
乐队听从她的指挥。
Indie rockers shift to jazz.
独立摇滚乐转向爵士乐。
One was the papa bear, one was the mama bear, one was a wee bear.
一只是熊爸爸,一只是熊妈妈,一只是小熊。
One day, they were walkin' in the deep woods and talkin', and along she came--
有一天,他们在密林深处散步、聊天,她走过来——
After maybe 10 minutes of this, they know each other well enough to play through "Rocket Man" for the first time.
大概过了 10 分钟,他们就足够了解彼此了,可以第一次玩“火箭人”了。
I don't know, do you want to give a count?
不知道,你要数数吗?
Do you want to go?
你想去吗?
Man Yeah.
男人 是啊。
1, 2, 3, 4.
1、2、3、4。
She packed my bags last night, pre-flight, zero hour, 9:00 AM.
昨晚,她在起飞前,上午 9:00 零时收拾了我的行李。
And I'm going to be high as a kite by then.
到那时我就会像风筝一样兴奋起来。
I miss the earth so much.
我非常想念地球。
I miss my wife.
我想念我的妻子。
And suddenly, they're a band.
突然间,他们成了一支乐队。
The guitarist and singer come together immediately, matching each other note for note.
吉他手和歌手立即走到一起,逐个音符地匹配彼此。
The rhythm section joins in shortly after, one perfectly fused unit.
节奏部分不久后加入,成为一个完美融合的单元。
The electric violinist jumps in next, followed by the theremin player, right on cue.
接下来是电子小提琴手,紧随其后的是特雷门琴演奏者。
Jon's standing in the middle of the room, waiting to step in, but there's nothing for him to even do.
乔恩站在房间中央,等着进来,但他无事可做。
And sure, this isn't a real band, and after today, they'll never play together again, and I know it's just a cover of "Rocket Man," but everyone in the room seemed to be feeling the same, all light and giddy and sentimental and corny.
当然,这不是一支真正的乐队,今天之后,他们再也不会在一起演奏了,我知道这只是“Rocket Man”的翻唱,但房间里的每个人似乎都有同样的感觉,所有的轻松、头晕、感伤和老套。
It came together so easily, like they'd been a band for years.
他们很容易就走到了一起,就像他们已经是一支乐队很多年了一样。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "ROCKET MAN" BY THE ONE-DAY BAND]
[音乐播放 - 一日乐队的《火箭人》]
From that point on, everything falls into place.
从那时起,一切就水到渠成了。
Jon takes the musicians in separately to play their parts.
乔恩分别带领音乐家们演奏他们的部分。
The rest of the band eats pizza and zones out, like a real recording session.
乐队的其他成员一边吃着披萨,一边发呆,就像真正的录音室一样。
When it's Eric's turn to go in, his wife straightens his shirt collar and gently touches his cheek.
当轮到埃里克进去时,他的妻子拉直他的衬衫领子,轻轻抚摸他的脸颊。
The angry violinist goes in with him, and the two of them playing together turns out to be the highlight of the whole session.
愤怒的小提琴手跟着他进去,两人的共同演奏成了整场比赛的亮点。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "ROCKET MAN" BY THE ONE-DAY BAND]
[音乐播放 - 一日乐队的《火箭人》]
Eric, that sounds great.
埃里克,听起来很棒。
I've got a request, though.
不过我有一个请求。
Could you do the classic 1950s flying saucer effect, just about 20 seconds from the end?
你能在距离结束大约 20 秒时制作 20 世纪 50 年代经典的飞碟效果吗?
Sure can.
当然可以。
Jon Langford And that could lead us out?
乔恩·兰福德 那可以带我们出去吗?
Sure.
当然。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "ROCKET MAN" BY THE ONE-DAY BAND]
[音乐播放 - 一日乐队的《火箭人》]
That was excellent.
那太好了。
Fantastic.
极好的。
Do you do this around the house all the time?
你经常在房子周围这样做吗?
Afterwards, Jon and I go to his house and put on a CD for his wife.
之后,乔恩和我去他家,为他的妻子放了一张 CD。
He can't get over how easy it was.
他无法想象这有多么容易。
His recording sessions never go this fast.
他的录音从来没有这么快过。
I thought we wouldn't get through it for hours.
我以为我们几个小时都无法完成它。
And there might be some arguments, and people might think that some people weren't playing well enough.
可能会有一些争论,人们可能会认为有些人打得不够好。
Maybe it means that people who put the-- actually taking out a classified ad implies some sort of skill or confidence, or desire to go in there prepared and ready to show off your stuff.
也许这意味着那些投放分类广告的人意味着某种技能或信心,或者希望做好准备并准备好炫耀你的东西。
Maybe it's like when you have bands with just old friends, then you can have people who can't really play that well.
也许就像当你的乐队只有老朋友时,你可能会有演奏得不太好的人。
[LAUGHTER] That might be the-- I don't know.
[笑声] 这可能是——我不知道。
And that was kind of refreshing, in a funny sort of way, to think I could go in a studio, just with a bunch of people who had never met each other before, and make something that was nothing to be ashamed of.
想到我可以走进一个工作室,和一群以前从未见过面的人一起制作一些没有什么可羞耻的东西,这有点令人耳目一新,以一种有趣的方式。
Before we formed the band, Jon said there wasn't enough amazement in his life.
在我们组建乐队之前,乔恩说他的生活中没有足够的惊喜。
But since then, he hasn't ceased to be amazed by all the lucky accidents and connections that came out of the classifieds.
但从那时起,他就一直对分类广告中出现的所有幸运事故和联系感到惊讶。
Let me tell you about the taxi driver.
让我告诉你关于出租车司机的事。
I got the taxi driver today.
今天我找到了出租车司机。
I get in the taxi, he goes like, "OK, sir, which way do you want me to go, which way?
我上了出租车,他说:“好吧,先生,你想让我走哪条路,哪条路?
You will be the commander-in-chief.
你将成为总司令。
And I am just your lackey.
而我只是你的走狗。
I'm just your flunky.
我只是你的跟班。
I'll take you whichever way you want to go."
你想走哪条路我就带你走。”
And I'm like, "OK.
我想,“好吧。
No, I don't want to be the commander-in-chief.
不,我不想当总司令。
You be the commander-in-chief." He's like, "May I ask you what you do, sir?" And I'm like, "I'm a musician." And he goes like, "I too like to play an instrument." And he whips out this huge flute.
你担任总司令。”他就像是,“我可以问一下你是做什么的吗,先生?”我想,“我是一名音乐家。”他说:“我也喜欢演奏乐器。”他吹出了这个巨大的笛子。
He gets to the traffic lights.
他到了红绿灯处。
Yeah, under the seat.
是的,在座位下面。
He gets to the traffic lights, and he starts pulling it out.
他到了红绿灯处,开始把车开出去。
"Tell me what you think of this." And he starts blowing.
“告诉我你对此有何看法。”他开始吹气。
He starts blowing this flute.
他开始吹这支笛子。
And he's playing the flute.
他正在吹长笛。
And I was like, "Oh my God.
我当时想,“天啊。
I'm just going to record a bunch of people who have never met each other.
我只是想记录一群素未谋面的人。
What am I going to do?
我要做什么?
Did he just join the band or something?"
他是刚加入乐队还是什么的?”
So he stops at the next light, and he goes like, "Let me try in the higher register." I could have got him and Eric together, it would have been like, [MAKES EXPLOSION SOUND].
所以他在下一个红绿灯处停了下来,然后说道:“让我试试更高的音域。”我本可以让他和埃里克在一起,就像,[发出爆炸声]。
But then I said, "You know what I'm doing today?
但后来我说:“你知道我今天在做什么吗?
I'm going to a studio to record a load of musicians who have never met.
我要去录音室录制一群从未谋面的音乐家的作品。
And I could sneak you in, if you've got a couple of hours free and you want to come in."
如果你有几个小时的空闲时间并且想进来的话,我可以带你进去。”
But I said, "What are the chances that I'd be doing that, and somebody would start playing music to me on my taxi drive?" And he went like, "Are you at all familiar with the writings of Jung?" And he just pulls it off and says, "Look, synchronicity.
但我说:“当我这样做时,有人会在我的出租车上给我播放音乐的可能性有多大?”他问道:“你熟悉荣格的著作吗?”他直接说:“看,同步性。
That's what Jung talked about, synchronicity."
这就是荣格所说的同步性。”
And that's why he was my taxi ride to the studio.
这就是为什么他是我搭出租车去工作室的原因。
And he was perfectly-- it didn't seem odd to him at all.
他很完美——这对他来说一点也不奇怪。
But he couldn't come in.
但他不能进来。
He was very busy.
他很忙。
But he gave me his phone number.
但他给了我他的电话号码。
Well, the members of our one-day band, Eric Mueller, Nathan Swanson, Steve Ordauer, Kirk Markarian, Ben Mazza, Sam Cortesi, and singer Karen Cassidy.
好吧,我们的一日乐队成员是埃里克·穆勒 (Eric Mueller)、内森·斯旺森 (Nathan Swanson)、史蒂夫·奥道尔 (Steve Ordauer)、柯克·马卡里安 (Kirk Markarian)、本·马扎 (Ben Mazza)、萨姆·科特西 (Sam Cortesi) 和歌手凯伦·卡西迪 (Karen Cassidy)。
Jon Langford's latest solo release is called Gold Brick.
乔恩·兰福德 (Jon Langford) 最新的个人专辑名为《Gold Brick》。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "ROCKET MAN" BY THE ONE-DAY BAND]
[音乐播放 - 一日乐队的《火箭人》]
Visit our website, thisamericanlife.org, to download your own full copy of "Rocket Man," this version of "Rocket Man."
请访问我们的网站 thisamericanlife.org,下载您自己的“Rocket Man”完整副本,即此版本的“Rocket Man”。
It's hard not to feel voyeuristic when you read the personal ads there in the classifieds.
当您阅读分类广告中的个人广告时,很难不感到偷窥。
People's hearts are right there on the page.
人们的心就在书页上。
Our producer, Jonathan Goldstein, decided to look into one enigmatic personal ad that we saw in the paper.
我们的制片人乔纳森·戈德斯坦决定调查我们在报纸上看到的一则神秘的个人广告。
It read--
上面写着——
Joyce, I don't want another housekeeper.
乔伊斯,我不需要另一个管家。
Ken.
肯.
Explain it.
解释一下。
Ken Well, it's about a woman that I was going out with that I lost.
肯 嗯,这是关于一个和我约会但我失去了的女人的故事。
She broke contact with me after going out for approximately three, four months.
出去了大约三四个月后,她就和我断了联系。
There isn't a great deal to tell.
没什么可说的。
Enjoyed food, drink, music, the typical things that people do.
享受食物、饮料、音乐,这些都是人们所做的典型事情。
She was just a tremendous influence in my life.
她对我的生活产生了巨大的影响。
So wait, about the house cleaning thing.
等等,关于房屋清洁的事情。
Can you explain that?
你能解释一下吗?
When you mention I don't want another housekeeper, what does that allude to?
当你提到我不需要另一个管家时,这指的是什么呢?
I wasn't really looking for someone else.
我并不是真的在寻找别人。
No. It was a joke between me and her.
不,这是我和她之间的一个玩笑。
I don't know how well-taken it was.
我不知道它有多好。
It was brutally sudden.
这一切来得太突然了。
I found out what she did for a living, which is something that was part of her mystique as I was going out with her.
当我和她约会时,我发现了她的职业,这是她神秘感的一部分。
Some allusions were made to being something like a secretary.
有人提到了类似秘书的角色。
And it was something that I probably should have tried to make more sense out of.
我可能应该尝试去理解这一点。
And I found out that she was a sexual surrogate.
我发现她是性代理人。
How do you mean?
你是什么意思?
What is that?
那是什么?
She performed sexually for another person?
她为另一个人进行性行为?
I assume that's what it is.
我想就是这样。
Jonathan Goldstein So when you found out about this, was that when you ended things with Joyce?
乔纳森·戈德斯坦 那么当你发现这件事时,是在你和乔伊斯结束关系的时候吗?
Well, I didn't really end things.
好吧,我并没有真正结束事情。
I gave her a call.
我给她打了电话。
And she said to me, this changes everything, doesn't it?
她对我说,这改变了一切,不是吗?
And I was kind of caught off guard.
我有点措手不及。
I didn't know exactly what to say.
我不知道该说什么。
So I just said that, like everything else, it changes everything, and it changes nothing.
所以我只是说,就像其他一切一样,它改变了一切,但它什么也改变不了。
We're still who we are.
我们还是原来的我们。
But before I had a chance to say anything else, she said she didn't want me to call her again.
但在我有机会再说什么之前,她说她不想让我再给她打电话。
That number was no longer functioning with her behind it.
有了她的支持,这个号码就不再起作用了。
So how hopeful were you when you put the ad in the paper that she would actually somehow see it?
那么,当您将广告刊登在报纸上时,您对她实际上会以某种方式看到它有多大希望呢?
It's just a shot in the dark, just an absolute shot in the dark.
这只是在黑暗中拍摄,绝对是在黑暗中拍摄。
There's a Chinese poem.
有一首中国诗。
I forget who the poet was.
我忘了诗人是谁了。
But it's real simple and short.
但它确实简单又简短。
And let's see if I can quote it correctly.
让我们看看我能否正确引用它。
"I'm struck by the lightning of seeing you after you're gone." It's after you're with someone, sometimes their presence, as you remember it, can be as startling as lightning.
“当你离开后,我看到你就像闪电一样震惊。”当你和某人在一起之后,有时候,正如你所记得的那样,他们的存在可能会像闪电一样令人震惊。
One of the things that the people at the Sun-Times said to me was that a lot of the classified section is really for people in transition, ditching an old life or starting a new life, whether they want to or not.
《太阳时报》的人对我说的一件事是,很多分类部分实际上是为那些处于转型期的人们准备的,无论他们愿意与否,他们都在抛弃旧的生活或开始新的生活。
And of course, in the For Sale section of the paper, people go to the classifieds to start a new life by buying the castoffs of somebody else's old life.
当然,在报纸的待售部分,人们会通过分类广告购买别人旧生活的废品来开始新的生活。
And they end up with stuff that's heavy with history, but it's not their history.
他们最终得到了充满历史气息的东西,但这不是他们的历史。
Jay Allison has been making his life over from scratch recently, buying other people's stuff from garage sales, from eBay, from the classifieds.
杰伊·艾利森(Jay Allison)最近重新开始了自己的生活,从旧货拍卖、eBay、分类广告上购买别人的东西。
As part of the project, he polled his own kids about what to buy.
作为该项目的一部分,他对自己的孩子进行了民意调查,询问该买什么。
And as you'll hear, they were only intermittently helpful.
正如您将听到的,他们只是间歇性地提供帮助。
And he made some phone calls to the Sun-Times classifieds ads.
他还给《太阳时报》的分类广告打了一些电话。
What do you hate?
你讨厌什么?
Do you hate the house, or what it stands for?
你讨厌这所房子,或者它所代表的意义吗?
Both.
两个都。
Jay Allison What's wrong with the house?
杰·艾利森 房子出了什么问题?
Dad.
爸爸。
I don't know, look at it.
我不知道,看看吧。
It's tiny and small and falling apart.
它又小又小,而且快要散架了。
I wouldn't want to live here, even if we had to live here, like if you and Mom were still married.
我不想住在这里,即使我们必须住在这里,就像你和妈妈还结婚一样。
I still wouldn't want to live here.
我还是不愿意住在这里。
This house isn't falling apart.
这房子不会倒塌。
It's just--
这只是——
It is, though.
但确实如此。
And the basements smells.
而且地下室有臭味。
And it probably has mice.
它可能有老鼠。
After the separation, there was no choice but to get my own place.
分开后,我别无选择,只能各得其所。
And I had to put things in it.
我必须把东西放进去。
I was going to be living by myself.
我本来打算一个人住。
And it had been about 25 years since I'd had to think much about what items I need or want in a house.
自从我不得不仔细思考我需要或想要在房子里放什么物品以来,已经过去了大约 25 年。
So a few months ago, I got my little place, close to the old one, and began setting it up for myself, and for my three kids, whenever they're here.
所以几个月前,我得到了我的小地方,靠近旧的地方,并开始为自己和我的三个孩子(无论何时他们在这里)布置它。
First I got rid of things, things with too many small parts, and all the broken things I'd been meaning to fix.
首先,我扔掉了一些东西,那些有太多小零件的东西,以及所有我一直想修理的损坏的东西。
I brought the things that were emphatically mine, like my old motorcycle, and my old guitars.
我带来了那些特别属于我的东西,比如我的旧摩托车和旧吉他。
I brought the cockatiel and the python.
我带来了玄凤鹦鹉和蟒蛇。
Then I had to outfit the place.
然后我必须装备这个地方。
I kept a list.
我保留了一份清单。
I got a cookbook, a grill, and bowls.
我有一本食谱、一个烤架和碗。
I didn't know how much I liked bowls.
我不知道我有多喜欢碗。
They contain chaos.
它们包含着混乱。
And house plants, I'd never had them before.
还有室内植物,我以前从未养过。
I wanted them now.
我现在想要它们。
And I asked the kids what they thought we needed in a home.
我问孩子们他们认为我们的家需要什么。
Yeah.
是的。
Jay Allison Does it have everything you need?
Jay Allison 它有您需要的一切吗?
Not everything.
不是一切。
You can never have everything you need.
你永远不可能拥有你需要的一切。
We got stuff to cook with, so we can eat.
我们有一些可以做饭的东西,所以我们可以吃饭。
It's got clothes.
它有衣服。
Clothes, yeah, clothes are required.
衣服,是的,衣服是必需的。
Food is good.
食物很好。
A bed, everyone needs a bed.
床,每个人都需要一张床。
TV isn't required.
电视不是必需的。
I admit that I do watch TV, but I read, too.
我承认我看电视,但我也读书。
I like to go outside.
我喜欢到外面去。
I love going outside.
我喜欢出去玩。
I like to climb trees.
我喜欢爬树。
I like jumping around.
我喜欢跳来跳去。
I like squirt guns.
我喜欢水枪。
What else we need to get for this house to make it any homier, Lil?
莉尔,我们还需要为这所房子准备什么才能让它变得更温馨?
I think it's pretty good, Dad.
我觉得这很好,爸爸。
I like it the way it is.
我喜欢它本来的样子。
You don't think I need to get anything else?
你觉得我不需要买别的东西吗?
A dog?
一只狗?
Oh, I want a dog.
哦,我想要一只狗。
Jay Allison's Son A German shepherd would be good, because they're good with kids and easy to train.
杰·艾利森的儿子 德国牧羊犬会很好,因为它们很适合孩子,而且很容易训练。
If I were to call up people who had dogs for sale, what should I ask them?
如果我打电话给那些出售狗的人,我应该问他们什么?
What the dog's record of biting people is.
狗咬人的记录是怎样的。
Hello?
你好?
Jay Allison Hi, there.
杰·艾利森 嗨,在那里。
I'm calling about the German shepherds in the paper.
我打电话来是关于报纸上的德国牧羊犬。
Oh, yes.
哦是的。
I do have German shepherd puppies, but what I have left is one female.
我确实有德国牧羊犬幼犬,但我只剩下一只母的。
And that is all I have left.
这就是我所剩下的一切。
All right.
好的。
So here are my questions.
这是我的问题。
The first dog my kids said they wanted was a German shepherd.
我的孩子们想要的第一只狗是德国牧羊犬。
Do you have a lot of experience raising German shepherds?
您有丰富的饲养德国牧羊犬的经验吗?
What do you think about them around kids?
你对他们在孩子身边的看法如何?
Well, they should be good, because when I was small, I had one.
嗯,它们应该很好,因为当我很小的时候,我就拥有过一个。
He was always [INAUDIBLE].
他总是[听不清]。
But you know what happened the other day?
但你知道前几天发生了什么吗?
No, what?
不,什么?
Man Look, I'm normal, right?
伙计,你看,我很正常,对吧?
And then in August, three weeks ago, I got a makeover.
然后在八月,三周前,我进行了改头换面。
And I changed my hair color.
我改变了头发的颜色。
I put on perfume.
我喷了香水。
I never put on perfume.
我从来不喷香水。
And I changed everything, my clothes.
我改变了一切,我的衣服。
And there's this one dog, one of the German shepherd's, and she's a real mean bitch.
还有一只狗,一只德国牧羊犬,她是一只真正卑鄙的母狗。
And I hadn't been there in two weeks until last week.
直到上周我才两周没去那里。
And then I went in there to the yard.
然后我走进院子。
You know what she did to me?
你知道她对我做了什么吗?
What do you mean you had a makeover?
你说你整容了是什么意思?
You mean you changed the way you look?
你是说你改变了你的外表?
Now I'm curious.
现在我很好奇。
Yeah, I felt a little bit depressed and everything.
是的,我感到有点沮丧等等。
So I changed everything.
所以我改变了一切。
I changed my clothes.
我换了衣服。
I changed everything.
我改变了一切。
And I started going to a gym and everything.
我开始去健身房什么的。
And I lost 10 pounds in, I don't know, in a month.
我不知道一个月内减掉了 10 磅。
And I don't know, I must have looked totally different for her.
我不知道,在她看来我一定是完全不同的。
That's funny.
那很好笑。
One of the reasons I'm looking for a dog is my life has changed a lot, too.
我寻找狗的原因之一是我的生活也发生了很大变化。
My marriage has broken up, and I'm living by myself.
我的婚姻破裂了,我一个人生活。
And the kids are there a lot, but I'm thinking about getting a dog to make it more homey.
那里有很多孩子,但我正在考虑养一只狗,让这里更有家的感觉。
Ah, cool.
啊,酷。
Cool.
凉爽的。
Yeah, well, they would be great around them.
是的,好吧,他们在他们身边会很棒。
What was your German shepherd like when you were a little kid?
当你还是个小孩子的时候,你家的德国牧羊犬是什么样的?
Oh, she was super-nice.
哦,她人超级好。
She was nice.
她人很好。
She slept in my room.
她睡在我的房间里。
And she slept on my bed also.
而且她也睡在我的床上。
Yeah, because I was very lonely.
是的,因为我很孤独。
I'm a very-- I don't talk to a lot of people.
我是一个非常——我不和很多人说话的人。
I'm more of a lonesome person.
我是一个比较孤独的人。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I just slept with her, and I talked to her.
我只是和她一起睡觉,然后和她说话。
I've never told anybody.
我从来没有告诉过任何人。
But yeah, I have, when I was sleeping, I used to hug her and everything.
但是,是的,当我睡觉的时候,我常常拥抱她等等。
And she was like my older sister.
她就像我的姐姐。
They've always been together.
他们一直在一起。
But my dad, he's like this-- he's not mean.
但我的爸爸,他就是这样——他并不刻薄。
He's not mean.
他并不刻薄。
But he has this way of being.
但他有这样的存在方式。
He never talks to us.
他从不和我们说话。
He never hugs us or tells us things.
他从不拥抱我们或告诉我们事情。
So I was [UNINTELLIGIBLE] with a dog.
所以我[无法理解]和一只狗在一起。
Yeah.
是的。
I think I need a little friend.
我想我需要一个小朋友。
Yeah.
是的。
Playful-ish, cuddly, soft, and stuff like that.
俏皮、可爱、柔软等等。
What kind of dog do you think I should call about?
你觉得我应该叫什么狗?
One that stays small.
一种保持较小的状态。
I don't want a big one.
我不想要一个大的。
Like what?
比如什么?
Jay Allison's Daughter I don't know.
杰·艾利森的女儿我不知道。
No, one of the little ones that Britney Spears has and Mariah Carey has.
不,是布兰妮·斯皮尔斯和玛丽亚·凯莉拥有的小孩子之一。
They're this big, and they're so cute.
它们都这么大了,而且这么可爱。
And that means you can carry them around with them like little babies, is that the idea?
这意味着你可以像小婴儿一样随身携带它们,是这个想法吗?
Yeah.
是的。
Jay Allison I don't want to do that.
杰·艾利森 我不想那样做。
Well, I don't want a big one that, like, ugh.
好吧,我不想要一个大的,就像,呃。
How about a beagle?
比格犬怎么样?
What do you think of beagles?
你觉得比格犬怎么样?
I love beagles!
我喜欢比格犬!
Jay Allison's Daughter I love them!
杰·艾利森的女儿我爱她们!
Hi there.
你好呀。
I'm calling about your beagle puppies.
我打电话来是为了你的小猎犬小狗。
Are they pretty friendly?
他们很友好吗?
Man Oh, they're lovable.
哦,他们很可爱。
Yeah?
是的?
Man Yeah.
男人 是啊。
They're very friendly.
他们非常友好。
They're very lovable.
他们非常可爱。
They demand love.
他们需要爱。
And they demand passion from their owner.
他们要求主人充满热情。
How do they demand it?
他们如何要求?
Man By following you around, wanting to hug on you, and wanting to jump up on you.
男人跟着你,想拥抱你,想跳到你身上。
Oh, yes.
哦是的。
I've got a dog that's a poodle that's particularly mine.
我有一只狗,它是一只特别属于我的贵宾犬。
And I have a bad heart.
而且我心脏不好。
And every time that I go in the hospital, she's lost.
每次我去医院,她都会迷路。
She'll sit and scratch at every door in the house.
她会坐下来抓挠房子里的每一扇门。
She'll go to the window and scratch.
她会走到窗户边抓挠。
She'll sit and look for me every place in the house.
她会坐下来在房子里的每个地方寻找我。
If I'm in bed, she'll stay in bed with me until I get up to make sure that I'm getting up.
如果我躺在床上,她会陪在床上直到我起床,以确保我起床。
If I lay back down in bed, she'll get back in bed.
如果我回到床上,她就会回到床上。
So she just sticks with you.
所以她只会和你在一起。
Man Yeah.
男人 是啊。
We love our dogs.
我们爱我们的狗。
Yeah, I need a heart.
是的,我需要一颗心。
You live with your life as you can.
你尽你所能地过你的生活。
Maybe I'll come back as a dog.
也许我会以狗的身份回来。
I think you should get one.
我想你应该买一个。
Jay Allison Why?
杰·艾利森 为什么?
Because, then when we're not here, you'll have someone to keep you company, and someone to take care of when we're not here.
因为,我们不在的时候,你会有人陪伴,我们不在的时候,会有人照顾。
You think I'm lonely?
你觉得我孤独吗?
Jay Allison's Daughter I'm sure sometimes you get lonely.
杰·艾利森的女儿 我确信有时你会感到孤独。
Everyone gets lonely sometimes.
每个人都有孤独的时候。
[LAUGHTER] Jay Allison It's 4:00 AM.
[笑声] Jay Allison 现在是凌晨 4:00。
I'm in the bedroom.
我在卧室。
A dog explains those extraneous noises of an empty house.
一只狗解释了空荡荡的房子里那些无关的噪音。
It breathes the same air with you.
它与你呼吸着同样的空气。
It needs an occasional conversation, a hand on the back, more so than a cockatiel or a python, anyway.
它需要偶尔的谈话,需要一只手放在背上,无论如何,比玄凤鹦鹉或蟒蛇更需要。
It stays with you, even in the middle of the night, at 4:00 AM, when you've woken with a harsh taste in your mouth, and you're writing on a yellow legal pad in the dim light, and only the crickets and the wind outside, like now.
它会一直伴随着你,即使是在半夜,凌晨 4:00,当你醒来时嘴里有刺鼻的味道,你在昏暗的灯光下在黄色便笺簿上写字,外面只有蟋蟀和风,就像现在一样。
The only pets I have now, and one of them is-- I have three kids.
我现在唯一的宠物,其中之一是——我有三个孩子。
They're five, 10, and 15.
他们分别是五岁、十岁和十五岁。
And we have a snake that belongs to my son, who's 10.
我们有一条蛇,是我十岁儿子的。
And we have a cockatiel.
我们还有一只玄凤鹦鹉。
But a dog would be a big jump from a snake and a bird.
但狗与蛇和鸟相比有很大的差距。
Yeah.
是的。
But you get a lot more affection from the dog than you would a bird and a snake.
但你从狗那里得到的感情比从鸟和蛇那里得到的感情要多得多。
That's right.
这是正确的。
That's right.
这是正确的。
And I think sometimes my kids worry that I'm lonely in the house by myself.
我想有时我的孩子会担心我一个人在家很孤独。
I think they'd like me to have a dog, because they would think that it would keep me company.
我想他们希望我养一只狗,因为他们认为它可以陪伴我。
Oh, I'm sure.
哦,我确定。
They're always waiting for you.
他们总是在等你。
They're always happy to see you, no matter what happens.
无论发生什么,他们总是很高兴见到你。
I mean, I lived with a man that beat me and held a gun on me.
我的意思是,我和一个殴打我并用枪指着我的男人住在一起。
And I'd go to bed at night and wonder if that was the night was going to be my last night on earth.
晚上睡觉时我会想,那天晚上是否会是我在地球上的最后一晚。
And I don't know.
我不知道。
I just have such peace and happiness with the dogs.
我和狗在一起真是太平静和幸福了。
And to spend a day-- I said, if the Lord, if I knew the last day I had on earth, I would just want to be totally away from human beings and just let me brush my dogs, and clean my dogs.
度过一天——我说,如果主啊,如果我知道我在地球上的最后一天,我只想完全远离人类,让我给我的狗刷毛、清洁我的狗。
And I enjoy grooming those dogs.
我喜欢给这些狗梳理毛发。
I can totally get lost.
我完全可以迷路。
Just give me a dog, a brush, and a table, and forget you know me.
只要给我一只狗、一把刷子和一张桌子,然后忘记你认识我。
So we haven't decided on a dog yet.
所以我们还没有决定养狗。
I'm dropping by the pound, just to see.
我正在减重,只是为了看看。
Really, the fellowship of looking for a dog seems to help.
确实,寻找狗的团契似乎很有帮助。
Everybody in their lives has holes to fill.
每个人的生活中都有需要填补的漏洞。
And they're even willing to talk about it, when you are.
当你愿意的时候,他们甚至愿意谈论它。
And that's good for now.
现在这样很好。
The kids and I have plenty of time to get a dog.
我和孩子们有足够的时间养狗。
By the way, here's the rest of the list of things I put in this house.
顺便说一句,这是我放在这所房子里的其余物品清单。
Electric fans, a gas stove with visible flame for heat.
电风扇、带有可见火焰的燃气灶用于加热。
New pictures of the kids in frames.
孩子们的新照片装在相框里。
Lots of old kerosene lanterns, good for parties, good for storms.
很多旧煤油灯,适合聚会,适合暴风雨。
One thing I went nuts buying was old kerosene lanterns.
我疯狂购买的一件事是旧煤油灯。
What do you think of that?
你对此有何看法?
Cheesy?
俗气?
Why?
为什么?
Jay Allison's Daughter Because you have one hanging from every tree in the backyard.
杰·艾利森的女儿 因为后院的每棵树上都挂着一个。
Don't you think it's cozy?
你不觉得很舒服吗?
Jay Allison's Daughter No, I don't.
杰·艾利森的女儿 不,我不知道。
Sometimes.
有时。
You just have a special soft spot for them, because you had them when you were living in West Virginia.
你只是对它们有一种特殊的情有独钟,因为你住在西弗吉尼亚州时就拥有它们。
I've started a collection of rocks taken from places we visit, and kitchen knives, old carbon steel ones, scooters, and helmets, a camera.
我开始收集从我们参观过的地方采集的岩石、菜刀、旧碳钢刀具、踏板车、头盔、相机。
Photograph us.
给我们拍照。
Daddy.
爸爸。
Here we are.
我们到了。
Take a picture.
拍张照片。
We look cute.
我们看起来很可爱。
Walkie talkies, colorful flannel sheets for the kids, and a gun.
对讲机、儿童用的彩色法兰绒床单和一把枪。
And the first thing, the first thing I got when I moved in, was rugs to soften everything, to mute the empty sound, rugs on the floor of my house when I moved in, so I could circle three times and lie down, like a dog.
当我搬进来时,我得到的第一件事是地毯,它可以软化一切,消除空虚的声音,搬进来时我家地板上有地毯,这样我就可以像狗一样绕三圈然后躺下。
Is there anything else I should get for this house to make it seem homier?
我还应该为这所房子买什么东西让它看起来更温馨吗?
Wall-to-wall carpeting.
满墙地毯。
Jay Allison Wall-to-wall carpeting in this old house?
杰伊·艾利森(Jay Allison)在这座老房子里铺满了地毯?
Yeah.
是的。
It would be so much cozier in this house if you had wall-to-wall carpeting.
如果这间房子铺满了地毯,那就舒服多了。
But when I first moved in here, do you remember how many rugs I got?
但当我第一次搬到这里时,你还记得我有多少块地毯吗?
Yeah, but rug, schmug.
是的,但是地毯,笨蛋。
Ira Glass Jay Allison, he never did get that dog for the kids.
艾拉·格拉斯·杰伊·艾利森,他从来没有给孩子们买过那只狗。
They are now 12, 17, and 21, though Jay recently remarried.
他们现在分别是 12 岁、17 岁和 21 岁,尽管杰伊最近再婚了。
And last month, he and his wife had an incredibly cute son.
上个月,他和妻子有了一个非常可爱的儿子。
His radio story got support from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, for the Open Studio Project.
他的广播故事得到了公共广播公司开放工作室项目的支持。
And you can hear more of Jay's work at transom.org.
您可以在 transom.org 上听到 Jay 的更多作品。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
[MUSIC PLAYING - "ROCKET MAN" BY THE ONE-DAY BAND]
[音乐播放 - 一日乐队的《火箭人》]
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作,并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。