219: High Speed Chase - This American Life
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Prologue Ira Glass Not long ago, Cory was driving home with his girlfriend, Dominique, from his job with the Chicago Transit Authority.
序言 艾拉·格拉斯 不久前，科里在芝加哥交通管理局工作，与女友多米尼克开车回家。
He's a painter for them.
他是他们的画家。
When somebody spray paints graffiti on a subway stop, he's the guy who paints over it.
当有人在地铁站喷漆涂鸦时，他就是在上面涂漆的人。
He's 26.
他26岁了。
She's 22.
她22岁了。
So they're driving home.
所以他们开车回家。
And a truck pulled on the side of me.
一辆卡车停在我身边。
And a guy was like gesturing.
一个家伙就像在打手势。
You know, I looked to the side and the guy was like gesturing.
你知道，我看向旁边，那家伙就像在打手势。
With my windows up, I didn't know what he was saying.
窗子开着，我不知道他在说什么。
So by this time, the light turned green and we both went forward.
于是这时候，绿灯亮了，我们就一起往前走。
And I'm just looking like, like what?
我只是看起来像什么？
They wrote on the window.
他们在窗户上写字。
And from that point, things happened pretty quickly.
从那时起，事情发生得很快。
They guy curses at him and throws a beer can, which actually comes through the window and lands inside spilling beer on Dominique.
他们咒骂他并扔了一个啤酒罐，啤酒罐实际上从窗户飞了进来，落在里面，啤酒洒在了多米尼克身上。
Cory throws one of those sample sized paint cans back at the guy.
科里将其中一个样品大小的油漆罐扔回给那家伙。
And then the other car, a gray SUV starts to follow Cory and Dominique.
然后另一辆车，一辆灰色SUV开始跟随科里和多米尼克。
Cory tries to lose him making turns, driving through a parking lot.
科里开车穿过停车场，试图在转弯时甩掉他。
Here's Dominique.
这是多米尼克。
I'm looking in my side mirror.
我看着我的后视镜。
And I'm like, they're still behind us.
我想，他们仍然在我们身后。
I couldn't believe that they were still behind us after we'd went down a side street and come up through the back of the mall and we're going through the parking lot.
我不敢相信，当我们沿着一条小街走，穿过商场后面，穿过停车场时，他们仍然在我们身后。
And I just couldn't believe that they were still behind us at this point.
我简直不敢相信他们此时仍然落后于我们。
I'm getting scared, real scared.
我越来越害怕了，真的很害怕。
I'm like, oh my god, Cory, they're still behind us.
我想，天哪，科里，他们仍然在我们身后。
They're still behind us.
他们仍然在我们身后。
And he's like, OK, just calm down, calm down.
他说，好吧，冷静点，冷静点。
135th Street, that's when we heard the gun shots.
135街，就在那时我们听到了枪声。
So then I just figured I'd go through the project area.
所以我就想我应该浏览一下项目区域。
Because I just figured whoever is shooting, they're not going go through the project area.
因为我认为无论谁在拍摄，他们都不会经过项目区域。
Maybe they'll just turn off or whatever.
也许他们会关掉或者其他什么。
So when I turn, I hear some more gun shots.
所以当我转身时，我听到更多的枪声。
And that's when I hear the back window bust out.
就在那时我听到后窗破裂的声音。
I can hear Dominique screaming, and it's like I can just see a flash of light.
我能听到多米尼克的尖叫声，就好像我能看到一道闪光。
The bullet had came through the back window.
子弹是从后窗射进来的。
It seemed like a movie.
这看起来就像一部电影。
It was like it was smoke.
就像是烟雾一样。
I could see people running.
我可以看到人们在奔跑。
There was a guy on a motorcycle in front of me.
我前面有一个骑摩托车的人。
He takes off.
他起飞了。
I could just see people in the headlights, and I just take off right behind them.
我只能在车头灯里看到人们，然后我就在他们后面起飞。
This is probably as good a place as any to tell you who was chasing them.
这可能是一个告诉你谁在追他们的好地方。
They were being pursued by five white off-duty police officers from Cook County Sheriff's Office who'd been drinking at a cocktail fundraiser for the sheriff, and then after that at a bar.
他们被库克县治安官办公室的五名休班白人警察追赶，这些警察当时正在为治安官举办的鸡尾酒筹款活动上喝酒，然后又去了一家酒吧。
They were not in uniform.
他们没有穿制服。
Lawyers for the officers declined our requests for interviews.
这些官员的律师拒绝了我们的采访请求。
But we do have a recording of them made the night of the shootings when they called 911 from their SUV on a cell phone.
但我们确实有他们在枪击当晚用手机拨打 911 的录音。
(SUBJECT) 911 DISPATCHER Counter emergency TC-14.
（主题）911 调度员柜台紧急情况 TC-14。
How may I help you?
我可以怎样帮助您？
Yeah, I've been on the phone [UNINTELLIGIBLE] with pursuit.
是的，我一直在打电话[听不清]带着追求。
I'm an off-duty police officer.
我是一名下班的警察。
Where is everybody at?
大家都在哪里？
This is officer Robert Jones telling two different 911 dispatchers that he's in pursuit of a vehicle and they should send backup.
这是警官罗伯特·琼斯 (Robert Jones) 告诉两名不同的 911 调度员，他正在追捕一辆车，他们应该派出支援。
We are at 159th and Kedzie.
我们位于 159 街和 Kedzie。
We're at 159th and Kedzie, 159th and Kedzie.
我们在 159 街和 Kedzie，159 街和 Kedzie。
What kind of car is it?
它是什么车？
Officer Robert Jones 159th and Kedzie.
罗伯特·琼斯 159 警官和凯奇。
We are following a gray Chevy Blazer, gray Chevy Blazer.
我们正在关注一辆灰色雪佛兰西装外套，灰色雪佛兰西装外套。
Actually, they're following a tan Ford Explorer.
事实上，他们正在跟踪一辆棕褐色的福特探险者。
They're in a gray Chevy.
他们坐在一辆灰色雪佛兰里。
We are northbound, northbound, northbound Kedzie from 159.
我们是北行，北行，北行 Kedzie，从 159 出发。
Northbound Kedzie from 159.
北行 Kedzie 从 159 出发。
OK, all right.
好吧，好吧。
Officer Robert Jones Northbound Kedzie 159.
罗伯特·琼斯警官 Northbound Kedzie 159。
Northbound Kedzie from 159.
北行 Kedzie 从 159 出发。
We are approaching 159.
我们正在接近 159。
[INTERPOSING VOICES].
[介入声音]。
OK, sir, sir, sir.
好的，先生，先生，先生。
Dominique Mapp At no point did we know that they were police officers.
多米尼克·马普 我们根本不知道他们是警察。
They could've been anyone.
他们可以是任何人。
I didn't know what they were after or whatever.
我不知道他们在追求什么或其他什么。
It is not like I would have just pulled over and say, OK, why are you following me?
我不会只是把车停在路边说，好吧，你为什么跟着我？
In this day and age, why would you pull over?
在这个时代，你为什么要停下来？
Everything is going on in the world and I'm going to pull over and see why you're following me?
世界上一切都在发生，我要把车停在路边，看看你为什么跟着我？
Although there were five officers in the car following him, on the 911 tape, Officer Jones gets the number wrong a couple times saying there were six officers or seven.
尽管车里有五名警察跟随他，但在 911 录音中，琼斯警官几次弄错了号码，说有六名或七名警察。
Their side of it is this.
他们的一面是这样的。
They say they were chasing a reckless driver, and that they only started shooting after somebody shot at them.
他们说，他们正在追赶一名鲁莽的司机，只有在有人向他们开枪后，他们才开始开枪。
No gun was found in Cory Simmons' car.
科里·西蒙斯的车里没有发现枪。
He denies having a gun.
他否认拥有枪支。
But listening on the 911 tape, it does seem possible that the officers thought they heard shots, even if none had been fired.
但听 911 录音，警察们似乎确实有可能认为他们听到了枪声，即使没有开枪。
Yeah.
是的。
We have seven off-duty police officers in our car.
我们的车里有七名下班的警察。
There is one-- oh!
有一个——哦！
Shots fired, shots fired, shots fired.
枪声响起，枪声响起，枪声响起。
Shots fired.
开枪了。
There are shots fired.
有枪响。
Where are you at, sir?
先生，你在哪里？
Ira Glass Also on the tape, you hear the officers in the background laughing and saying boom, boom, boom.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass） 在录音带中，你还可以听到背景中的警官们笑着说“繁荣、繁荣、繁荣”。
And then there's this when they point to an alley in pursuit.
然后，当他们指向追击者的一条小巷时，情况就这样了。
Go around and kill the lights.
绕过去把灯灭了。
Kill the lights.
灭灯。
They're going to try to block us out of here.
他们会试图阻止我们离开这里。
[BLEEP].
[哔]。
No, [BLEEP] them.
不，[哔]他们。
Drive right around.
开车往右走。
Not them the [BLEEP] off the road.
不是他们在路上发出[BLEEP]声。
He might have turned right there.
他可能就在那里转过身来。
Some time passes.
过了一段时间。
Officer Robert Jones Kill them.
罗伯特·琼斯警官 杀了他们。
Kill them.
杀掉他们。
Hello?
你好？
Officer Robert Jones We have [BLEEP] guns.
罗伯特·琼斯警官我们有[BLEEP]枪。
The chase ended when Cory and Dominique finally spotted a police station and ran inside saying somebody was chasing them trying to kill them.
当科里和多米尼克终于发现了一个警察局并跑进去说有人在追他们并试图杀死他们时，追逐结束了。
When the officers were brought in, they first denied firing their guns.
当警察被带进来时，他们首先否认开枪。
But of course there were bullet holes in Cory's car.
当然，科里的车上有弹孔。
So the police were asked to turn over their guns for ballistic tests to see if they'd been fired.
因此，警方被要求交出枪支进行弹道测试，看看是否被射击过。
Dominique and Cory said that at first, they refused.
多米尼克和科里说，一开始他们拒绝了。
When the police came to trial on charges of attempted murder, aggravated discharge of a firearm, official misconduct, and obstruction of justice, the judge said that they had only been guilty of bad judgment, that there wasn't enough evidence to convict them on any of the charges.
当警方以谋杀未遂、严重开枪、公职不当行为和妨碍司法公正等罪名受审时，法官表示，他们只是判断失误，没有足够的证据对他们的任何指控定罪。
Even though the five officers were drinking and using their guns, and firing a gun from a moving vehicle, both of those things in violation of department rules, they weren't even convicted of official misconduct.
尽管这五名警察喝酒、使用枪支，以及在行驶中的车辆上开枪，这些行为都违反了部门规定，但他们甚至没有被判犯有公职不当行为。
The judge in your case said, if I could sentence these officers to wear red noses for the bozos they are, I would do that.
你的案件的法官说，如果我可以判处这些警察戴红鼻子，因为他们是笨蛋，我会这么做。
But I can't do that.
但我不能那样做。
What did you think of that?
你对此有何看法？
It was a stupid thing to say for a judge.
对于法官来说，说出这样的话是一件愚蠢的事情。
I mean, he's supposed to be intelligent, right?
我的意思是，他应该很聪明，对吗？
It was a stupid thing to say.
这是一件愚蠢的事情。
A very stupid thing to say.
说一件非常愚蠢的话。
Cory Simmons They guy is up for attempted murder and you call him a bozo?
科里·西蒙斯 这家伙涉嫌谋杀未遂，你却称他为笨蛋？
A bozo is a clown, he play with kids.
波佐是一个小丑，他和孩子们一起玩。
This is a grown man shooting at people trying to kill them.
这是一名成年男子向试图杀害他们的人开枪。
Here I do everything right that they say you're supposed to do, and I'm getting shot at like I'm some type of criminal or something like that.
在这里，我做了他们说你应该做的所有事情，而我却遭到枪击，就像我是某种罪犯或类似的人一样。
I just think that they were wrong.
我只是认为他们错了。
I can't say it's all cops.
我不能说都是警察。
I just think that they were wrong.
我只是认为他们错了。
And I think race did have something to do with it.
我认为种族确实与此有关。
I think if I was white that we wouldn't be sitting here.
我想如果我是白人我们就不会坐在这里。
I don't think that it would have happened if I was white, that they would have been shooting at me or saying that they thought I maybe I was dirty or had a warrant or a gun on me and that's why I didn't want to pull over.
我不认为如果我是白人，这种事就不会发生，他们会向我开枪，或者说他们认为我可能很脏，或者我身上有搜查令或枪，这就是为什么我不想靠边停车。
Cory says he's heard of police brutality, of course, but he never thought something like this could happen to him driving home from work one night.
科里说，他当然听说过警察的暴行，但他从未想过有一天晚上他下班开车回家时会发生这样的事情。
And one of the interesting things about this story is what a non-story it is.
这个故事的有趣之处在于它并不是一个故事。
Here in Chicago where the whole thing happened, it's made of paper a few times.
整个事情发生在芝加哥，有好几次都是纸做的。
But there is no big public uproar.
但公众并没有引起太大的骚动。
It's not the subject of speeches.
这不是演讲的主题。
You don't see politicians on TV backpedaling and prevaricating.
你不会在电视上看到政客们反悔和搪塞。
It has not made national news at all as far as we can tell.
据我们所知，它根本没有成为全国性新闻。
Five cops go drinking and shoot at a middle class black couple, whatever.
五名警察喝酒并向一对中产阶级黑人夫妇开枪，无论如何。
What always kind of sticks out in my mind when we have these kinds of cases is that there's not the same level of outrage, not only for the public, but for the victims themselves.
当我们遇到此类案件时，我脑海中始终浮现出的是，不仅对公众，而且对受害者本身，都没有同等程度的愤怒。
Tiffany Ferguson is one of the lawyers who's going to represent Cory Ferguson and Dominique Mapp in a civil suit against the police.
蒂芙尼·弗格森是代表科里·弗格森和多米尼克·马普对警方提起民事诉讼的律师之一。
We have all sorts of clients in the office, of course.
当然，我们办公室里有各种各样的客户。
And when people contact our office, and it's a person who is white who has been victimized, their level of outrage, I can't describe to you.
当人们联系我们的办公室时，发现受害者是一名白人，他们的愤怒程度，我无法向你描述。
But they feel so violated.
但他们感觉受到了侵犯。
How could this have happened to me?
这怎么会发生在我身上？
I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing.
我正在做我应该做的事情。
I'm following the law.
我遵守法律。
I haven't done anything wrong.
我没有做错任何事。
And we're talking about something as minor as getting a traffic ticket that they shouldn't have gotten.
我们正在谈论一些小事，比如他们收到了不应该收到的交通罚单。
And they're ready to sue everybody.
他们准备起诉所有人。
When it happens to someone black, and this is my opinion, often times the person feels like, this is terrible.
当这种情况发生在黑人身上时，这是我的观点，很多时候这个人会觉得，这太可怕了。
But this is my life.
但这就是我的生活。
This is kind of the cards I've been dealt.
这就是我收到的牌。
And so that level of outrage is almost like you have to remind the victim that this is insane that you have to deal with this.
因此，这种程度的愤怒几乎就像你必须提醒受害者，这太疯狂了，你必须处理这个问题。
This is completely violative of your rights.
这完全侵犯了您的权利。
WBEZ Chicago, the Public Radio International.
WBEZ 芝加哥，国际公共广播电台。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today on our program, High Speed Chase.
今天我们的节目《高速追逐》。
We bring you not one, no, no, but two, two stories high speed car chases and the law.
我们为您带来的不是一个，不，不，而是两个，两个故事的高速汽车追逐和法律。
Actually I guess it's kind of a special law and order edition of our program.
事实上，我想这是我们程序的特殊法律和秩序版本。
You'll hear the crime, and you'll hear how the justice system dealt with the crime.
您将听到犯罪事件，您将听到司法系统如何处理犯罪事件。
Yes, in the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate and equally important groups, the police to investigate crimes, and public radio reporters who interview them after the fact.
是的，在刑事司法系统中，人民由两个独立且同等重要的群体代表，即调查犯罪的警察和事后采访他们的公共广播记者。
These are their stories.
这些是他们的故事。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Let's call this Act 2, Cowboys and Indians.
我们称之为第二幕“牛仔与印第安人”。
In this act, another high speed chase, though the participants in this particular case began running after each other across the plains and deserts of this country long before the invention of automobiles.
在这一幕中，又是一场高速追逐，尽管这个特殊案例中的参与者早在汽车发明之前就开始在这个国家的平原和沙漠中互相追逐。
I'm talking about Native Americans and white people.
我说的是美洲原住民和白人。
In South Dakota, after all of these years, the two groups are still not getting along.
在南达科他州，这么多年过去了，这两个群体仍然相处不好。
Things are so bad that some people compare race relations in the state to Mississippi in 1960.
情况如此糟糕，以至于有些人将该州的种族关系与 1960 年的密西西比州进行比较。
And last fall after a high school girls basketball game, an incident between a group of Native American girls and a group of white boys escalated to the points where shots were fired from a speeding car.
去年秋天，一场高中女子篮球比赛结束后，一群美国原住民女孩和一群白人男孩之间发生的事件升级为从一辆超速行驶的汽车中开枪。
What happened in the months that followed did not seem fair to either side.
接下来几个月发生的事情对双方来说似乎都不公平。
Susan Burton tells the story.
苏珊·伯顿讲述了这个故事。
Basketball is big just about everywhere in South Dakota.
篮球在南达科他州几乎无处不在。
It's big and small towns, big on Indian reservations, and there are plenty of parents from both places who never miss a game.
这里有大大小小的城镇，还有印第安保留地的大片，有很多来自两地的家长都不会错过任何一场比赛。
On November 1, Lucille Weasel Bear drove five hours from the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation to a small town called Miller to see her daughter Arlene play in the district finals.
11 月 1 日，露西尔黄鼠狼熊从松岭印第安人保留地驱车五个小时来到一个叫米勒的小镇，去看她的女儿阿琳在地区决赛中的比赛。
Miller seemed like a typical small town, railroad tracks at one end, a dairy queen at the other.
米勒看起来像一个典型的小镇，一端是铁轨，另一端是乳制品女王。
Lucille surveyed the one along main street, parked outside the armory, and went straight in.
露西尔环顾了大街上的那辆，把车停在军械库外面，然后径直走了进去。
The first thing I look for is a good spot up in the bleachers because I do a lot of videotaping.
我首先要寻找看台上的好位置，因为我会进行大量的录像。
And then so I found me one.
然后我就找到了一个。
And then there were some Indian women that sat by me.
然后有一些印度妇女坐在我旁边。
But when they sat down, this lady said, did they tell you where to sit when you came in the gym?
但是当他们坐下来时，这位女士说，当你来到健身房时，他们告诉你坐在哪里吗？
And the other said, no. And she said, well when I came in, they told me Indians on that side and white people on that side.
另一个说，不。她说，当我进来时，他们告诉我那边是印第安人，那边是白人。
And I heard that, and I was like, gee, who would say that?
我听到了，我想，天哪，谁会这么说？
They could say Chieftains on that side and Spartans or whatever they call them on that side.
他们可以说那一边是酋长，那一边可以说是斯巴达人，或者无论他们怎么称呼他们。
But Indians on this side and whatever.
但这边有印第安人等等。
Tonight the Crow Creek Chieftains were playing the Wessington Springs Spartans.
今晚，克罗溪酋长队将对阵威辛顿泉斯巴达队。
And it was a big game.
这是一场大型比赛。
The winner would have a shot at making state.
获胜者将有机会创造状态。
The loser's season would be over.
失败者的赛季就结束了。
The trouble began as the Crow Creek players entered the gym.
当克罗溪队球员进入体育馆时，麻烦就开始了。
Jessica Squirrel Coat is the team's MVP, the kind of girl who people talk about as if she's famous, an honor student, strikingly pretty with long black hair to her waste.
杰西卡·松鼠·外套是球队的 MVP，她是那种人们谈论她的女孩，就好像她是名人一样，是一名优等生，一头乌黑的长发，漂亮得惊人。
And then as we were running out, we came on our side, we came under their hoop right by the Wessington Springs fans' area.
然后当我们跑出去的时候，我们来到了我们这边，我们就在威辛顿温泉球迷区附近，来到了他们的篮下。
And as soon as we went by their area, we heard those war whooping.
我们一经过他们的地区，就听到那些战争的呼喊声。
I looked down.
我低头一看。
I was like, right now it's dirty in the beginning of the game.
我当时想，现在游戏一开始就很脏。
How you see it on cartoons, that's how you hear it.
你在动画片中看到的，就是你听到的。
From the stands, Lucille heard the war whoops too.
露西尔在看台上也听到了战争的呼喊声。
This happens every so often at basketball games, and it's disturbing.
这种情况在篮球比赛中时常发生，令人不安。
I noticed way on the left side across the gym floor, a group of non-Indians.
我注意到在体育馆地板的左侧，有一群非印度人。
There were a group of white kids.
有一群白人孩子。
And I noticed when our girls came running in how they were war whooping and hollering and dancing right there, right where they were standing at their bleacher turning around.
我注意到，当我们的女孩们跑进来时，她们就站在看台上转身，欢呼雀跃，跳舞。
I see that, but I think that well, gee, if they want to live that way, that's them.
我明白这一点，但我认为好吧，天哪，如果他们想那样生活，那就是他们。
[CHEERLEADERS CHEERING] Susan Burton On the video of the game, you see the silver flash of pom poms, you see Wessington Springs' best player racing down the court, her blond ponytail flopping behind her.
[啦啦队欢呼] 苏珊·伯顿 (Susan Burton) 在比赛视频中，你可以看到绒球的银色闪光，你可以看到威辛顿斯普林斯最好的球员在球场上奔跑，她的金色马尾辫在身后飘扬。
You see Jessica shooting three-pointers.
你看到杰西卡投三分球。
You can't hear any racial remarks.
你听不到任何种族言论。
But she and the other Crow Creek players insist they were said.
但她和其他 Crow Creek 球员坚称他们已经说过了。
Near the end of the third quarter, Jessica and the girl with the blond ponytail collided.
第三节临近尾声时，杰西卡和金发马尾辫的女孩发生了碰撞。
Together they stumbled into the wall.
他们一起跌跌撞撞地撞到了墙上。
The other girl fell to the floor and lay very still.
另一个女孩倒在地上，一动不动。
It looked like she hit hard and was hurt.
看来她受了重击，受了伤。
A foul was called.
被判犯规。
The mood in the gym got worse.
健身房里的气氛变得更差了。
There was booing.
现场一片嘘声。
The blond girl got up.
金发少女站了起来。
Jessica stepped away from the wall and went to line up next to Lucille's daughter whose nickname is Chub.
杰西卡从墙边退开，走到露西尔女儿（绰号叫查布）旁边排队。
As Chub and Jessica passed the Wessington Springs fans, Jessica heard somebody yell something at her.
当查布和杰西卡经过威辛顿温泉球迷时，杰西卡听到有人对她大喊大叫。
She's dirty.
她很脏。
She's a dirty Indian.
她是一个肮脏的印度人。
She's very dirty.
她很脏。
And I just looked and Chubs and she looked at me.
我只是看着查布斯，她也看着我。
She smiled at me.
她对我微笑。
She's like, don't pay attention.
她就像，别在意。
Just don't pay attention.
只是不注意。
I was like, I know, I'm not even trying.
我当时想，我知道，我什至没有尝试。
Then that girl went to the three-throw line.
然后那个女孩就到了三掷线。
And she was bent over bouncing the ball, getting ready to do her free throw.
她弯下腰弹球，准备罚球。
And Jessica went up to her.
杰西卡走到她跟前。
And I think she said something like, are you OK?
我想她说了类似这样的话：你还好吗？
Because it seemed to settle the atmosphere down.
因为这似乎让气氛变得平静了。
And Jessica pulled back behind the players that were all lines up for the free throw line.
杰西卡退到了罚球线球员身后。
[CHEERLEADERS CHEERING] Jenny Squirrel Coat [UNINTELLIGIBLE] Crow Creek has possession and it was like 14 seconds, I don't know.
[啦啦队欢呼] Jenny 松鼠外套 [无法理解] Crow Creek 控球，大约 14 秒，我不知道。
They gave the ball to Jessie.
他们把球交给了杰西。
She attempted the shot to go up.
她试图将镜头向上。
And just like that they grabbed it out of her hands.
就这样，他们从她手中夺走了它。
Within seven seconds the girl took it down the court and made a shot at the buzzer.
不到七秒，女孩就将球带入球场，并投中了压哨球。
Wessington Springs won.
威辛顿温泉获胜。
[CROWD CHEERING] Jenny Squirrel Coat Jessie collapsed to the floor and she was crying.
[人群欢呼]珍妮松鼠外套杰西倒在地板上，她哭了。
Her arms folded underneath her face.
她的双臂交叉在脸下方。
She was just sobbing.
她只是在抽泣。
And I couldn't get her off the floor.
我无法让她离开地板。
I halfway got down and I was holding her.
我半蹲下来，抱住了她。
Wessington Springs had won the district finals by two points.
威辛顿温泉以两分的优势赢得了地区决赛。
The Crow Creek girls collapsed exactly where they were when the buzzer sounded, mid-court under the net.
当压哨声响起时，克罗溪队的女孩们倒在了原地，中场网下。
Outside the gym, the night was starry and cool.
体育馆外，夜色繁星点点，凉爽宜人。
Parents got into their cars and followed the Crow Creek bus up to the Dairy Queen for dinner.
家长们钻进车里，沿着克罗溪巴士前往冰品皇后餐厅吃晚饭。
There were 30 or so Native Americans inside.
里面有大约 30 名美洲原住民。
It smells like Indians, a girl from Crow Creek heard someone remark.
“闻起来像印第安人的味道，”一位来自克罗溪的女孩听到有人这样评价。
Jessica ordered a double cheeseburger and strawberry banana smoothie.
杰西卡点了一份双层芝士汉堡和草莓香蕉冰沙。
The Crow Creek players say they kept being served hamburgers that only had bottom buns.
克罗溪队的球员表示，他们一直吃到只有底部面包的汉堡。
They say that when they complained, they were told, are you sure you're not just eating the top bun and bringing it back?
他们说，当他们抱怨的时候，他们被告知，你确定你不是只是吃了上面的包子然后把它带回来吗？
Crow Creek is a boarding school.
Crow Creek 是一所寄宿学校。
And Jessica and Arlene had permission to ride back to campus in their friends pickup.
杰西卡和阿琳获准乘坐朋友的接送车返回校园。
There were six girls in the car.
车上有六个女孩。
They cracked a couple windows to get some air, smoke a cigarette.
他们打开几扇窗户呼吸新鲜空气，抽根烟。
They drove south on the main street.
他们沿着主要街道向南行驶。
And a few blocks later they came to a vacant lot.
几个街区后，他们来到了一块空地。
It seemed like a hangout spot.
这看起来像是一个聚会场所。
There were cars there, eight or so boys standing outside them.
那里有汽车，车外站着八个左右的男孩。
At this point, accounts differ.
在这一点上，帐户有所不同。
The boys say they said nothing.
男孩们说他们什么也没说。
The girls say they could see the boys flipping them off under the streetlights.
女孩们说她们可以看到男孩们在路灯下把她们甩掉。
They say they heard them swearing at them.
他们说他们听到他们咒骂他们。
One girl said she heard a racial epithet.
一名女孩说她听到了种族歧视的绰号。
Jessica tells the rest of the story with her uncle, Jake Thompson, the vice-chairman of the Sisseton-Wahpeton Sioux Tribe, who later called for a federal civil rights investigation into the events surrounding this night.
杰西卡向她的叔叔杰克·汤普森讲述了剩下的故事，杰克·汤普森是西塞顿-瓦佩顿苏族部落的副主席，后来呼吁对今晚发生的事件进行联邦民权调查。
They looked at each other.
他们互相看着对方。
Did you hear this?
你听到了吗？
Did you hear what I heard?
你听到我听到的话了吗？
They left and a decision was made to go around the block.
他们离开后决定绕过街区。
We were like, just go back.
我们当时想，就回去吧。
See what they said.
看看他们怎么说。
Make sure we heard what we hear.
确保我们听到我们所听到的。
So they took a right, went down the block, and came back in front of the same spot to see if this is what they had heard.
于是他们右转，沿着街区走下去，然后回到同一个地点，看看这是否是他们听到的。
And they heard it again.
他们又听到了。
Jessica sat in the back seat holding her smoothie.
杰西卡坐在后座上，手里拿着她的冰沙。
She says she heard the boys swear at them again.
她说她又听到男孩们咒骂他们。
In reaction, she passed the smoothie to the front of the car.
作为回应，她把冰沙递到车前。
Here, throw this at them.
来，把这个扔给他们。
I was like, yeah, yes.
我当时想，是的，是的。
Throw it at them.
把它扔给他们。
Everyone was agreeing with it.
大家都同意了。
So we just kind of went by slowly, she rolled down her window.
所以我们就慢慢地过去了，她摇下了车窗。
And then she threw it out.
然后她把它扔掉了。
It just went all over.
一切都结束了。
The smoothie hit a white car.
冰沙撞到了一辆白色汽车。
Two of the boys jumped inside of it and peeled out of the lot.
两个男孩跳了进去，然后从停车场里出来。
The girls sped down the main street bouncing over the railroad tracks on their way out of town.
女孩们沿着主要街道飞驰，在铁轨上弹跳着出城。
Now there were two cars from the parking lot chasing them.
现在停车场有两辆车追着他们。
At times, they were going almost 90 miles an hour.
有时，他们的行驶速度接近每小时 90 英里。
Then the white car swerved out alongside the girls and one of the boys thrust a shotgun out of the passenger window.
然后白色汽车突然转向女孩们旁边，其中一个男孩从乘客车窗里推出一把猎枪。
They've got a gun, the girls screamed.
他们有枪，女孩们尖叫起来。
Go back to town.
回城吧。
Go back to Dairy Queen.
回到冰品皇后。
And what happens next is unbelievable.
接下来发生的事情令人难以置信。
You just don't hear of these things, even in South Dakota after a basketball game.
即使在南达科他州一场篮球比赛后，你也不会听说这些事情。
There was four shotgun blasts shot from the car.
车内连开四声霰弹枪。
That's when Chubs said, get down, get down.
就在那时查布斯说，趴下，趴下。
And that's when we had that back window cracked in.
就在那时我们把后窗打开了。
We heard four shots.
我们听到四声枪响。
They sound like old fire crackers.
它们听起来就像古老的鞭炮。
The girls were on the floor.
女孩们躺在地板上。
They heard the shots but nothing hit the car.
他们听到枪声，但没有任何东西击中汽车。
Go, go, they screamed to the driver.
走，走，他们对司机尖叫。
She raced through Miller running lights.
她冲过米勒跑灯。
Finally she made it to Dairy Queen.
最后她成功进入了冰雪皇后。
The Crow Creek Chieftains' bus was still there.
克罗溪酋长队的巴士还在那里。
The parents were still inside.
父母还在里面。
They are beside themselves.
他们疯了。
They pull up in a parking lot.
他们把车停在停车场。
And that car pulled up.
那辆车停了下来。
The one who had a shotgun and did the firing pulled up next to them.
那个拿着猎枪射击的人停在他们旁边。
Five of them exit out and they make it inside scared for their lives.
其中五个人出去了，他们进了屋，担心自己的生命安全。
This left one girl still stuck in the car.
这使得一名女孩仍然被困在车里。
She couldn't get her seat belt unfastened.
她无法解开安全带。
The two men-- the two boys, rather-- inside the car had the shotgun on their laps.
车内的两个男人——更确切地说是两个男孩——腿上放着猎枪。
She sees the barrel of the shotgun.
她看到了猎枪的枪管。
It's raised a little bit.
已经升高了一点点。
And they tell her, go home, leave, you f-ing Indian, you f-ing prairie nigger.
他们告诉她，回家吧，离开吧，你这个该死的印第安人，你这个该死的草原黑鬼。
She gets her seat belt unfastened, makes it to the glass doors of the Dairy Queen.
她解开安全带，走到冰雪皇后的玻璃门前。
And she goes to the bathroom on herself she was so scared.
她独自去洗手间，她很害怕。
I thought I was in shock.
我以为我很震惊。
I didn't know what to think.
我不知道该怎么想。
The only thought I had was like, oh my god, they have a gun.
我唯一的想法就是，天哪，他们有枪。
They went to that extreme to bring a gun into it.
他们走极端，带枪进去。
[INAUDIBLE PHRASE].
[听不清的短语]。
I was just so shocked.
我太震惊了。
The two boys deny making any racial remarks.
这两个男孩否认发表过任何种族言论。
The girl who was stuck in her seat belt went to the restroom and locked herself in.
被安全带卡住的女孩去了洗手间，把自己反锁在里面。
Her aunt and her cousin shut themselves in there with her.
她的姨妈和表弟和她一起把自己关在里面。
Most everyone else watched the windows waiting for the police to arrive.
大多数人都盯着窗户等待警察的到来。
What the people inside did not know is that these boys had went straight to their home, left the shotgun there, then went to the police station and told them that these girls threw some ice cream at their car.
里面的人不知道的是，这些男孩直接回家，把猎枪留在了那里，然后去警察局告诉他们，这些女孩向他们的车扔了一些冰淇淋。
So they should look into this.
所以他们应该调查一下这个问题。
Ten minutes after the boys made their vandalism report, the police department got a call from Dairy Queen about the shooting.
男孩们提出破坏行为报告十分钟后，警察局接到了冰雪皇后关于枪击事件的电话。
An officer arrived.
一名军官到了。
And as he began to talk to the girls, the white car returned to the parking lot.
当他开始和女孩们说话时，白色汽车回到了停车场。
People pointed and shouted, do something.
人们指着并喊道，做点什么。
Stop those boys.
阻止那些男孩。
They're the ones that did this.
他们就是干这事的人。
The police officer doesn't know what to think.
警察不知道在想什么。
He turns around, tells the car to stay right there.
他转过身来，告诉车子停在那里。
Don't move.
别动。
The car leaves.
车子离开了。
The officer set out after the boys.
军官跟着孩子们出发了。
People hovered in the entryway making telephone calls.
人们在入口处徘徊打电话。
The news was starting to spread.
这个消息开始传开。
Some kids back at Crow Creek heard the shooting report on their police scanners.
克罗溪的一些孩子通过警方扫描仪听到了枪击事件的报告。
Two women who worked at Dairy Queen took the girls to the police department.
两名在冰雪皇后工作的妇女将女孩们带到了警察局。
They wrote brief statements.
他们写了简短的声明。
Later, much was made of the fact that they didn't mention the racial slurs in their statements.
后来，人们大肆议论他们在声明中没有提及种族歧视。
They only mention the shooting.
他们只提到枪击事件。
But the main reason for the omission was that their coach was in a hurry to get them home and the girls weren't instructed on exactly what needed to be in their accounts.
但遗漏的主要原因是她们的教练急于送她们回家，而女孩们没有得到关于她们的账户中需要包含哪些内容的指导。
The boys were found and questioned, and then the night was over.
男孩们被发现并接受讯问，然后夜晚就结束了。
The girls drove back to school in their pickup and the boys went home with their parents.
女孩们开着皮卡车返回学校，男孩们则和父母一起回家。
They had not been arrested.
他们没有被捕。
Nobody had been injured.
没有人受伤。
The case would be under investigation.
此案将被调查。
The people in Miller felt that something bad had happened in their community that night, something that never should have happened.
米勒的人们觉得那天晚上他们的社区发生了一些不好的事情，一些不应该发生的事情。
But for them, it was an isolated incident.
但对于他们来说，这只是一个孤立的事件。
But on the reservation, from that very first night when the police decided not to arrest the boys, the shooting was seen as symbolic of the way justice operates in South Dakota.
但在保留地，从警察决定不逮捕男孩的第一晚起，枪击事件就被视为南达科他州司法运作方式的象征。
The system doesn't take crimes against Indians seriously, they say, and punishes them more harshly than it does whites.
他们说，这个制度并没有认真对待针对印第安人的犯罪行为，而且对他们的惩罚比对白人更严厉。
1,500 people live in Miller.
米勒有 1,500 人居住。
On the day I visit, a high wind screams down the main street lifting hundreds of soda cans out of a collection bin.
在我参观的那天，一阵大风呼啸着吹过主要街道，将数百个汽水罐从收集箱中吹了出来。
Jim Jones is the Hand County State's Attorney.
吉姆·琼斯是汉德县州检察官。
He was in charge of prosecuting the Crow Creek case.
他负责起诉克罗溪案。
We have our DWIs, our underaged consumptions, our burglaries, lots of traffic offenses.
我们有酒驾、未成年人消费、入室盗窃、大量交通违法行为。
The last time we had a shot fired, to my knowledge, in Miller on one of our public streets was probably four or five years ago.
据我所知，我们上次在米勒的一条公共街道上开枪可能是四五年前的事了。
A couple guys got in a tangle.
几个人纠缠在一起。
I guess it was on East 1st Street.
我猜是在东一街。
But that's the last time that I can think of that anybody fired a shot in anger on one of our city streets.
但这是我最后一次想到有人在我们城市的街道上愤怒地开枪。
This is highly unusual.
这是非常不寻常的。
Jim Jones is meticulous and focused.
吉姆·琼斯一丝不苟、专注。
He smokes long cigarettes called Liggetts and exhales in tidy rings.
他抽着名为“Liggetts”的长香烟，呼气时发出整齐的响声。
He's 48 years old and has lived his entire life in Hand County.
他今年 48 岁，一生都生活在汉德县。
He started working on the Crow Creek case the morning after the shooting.
枪击事件发生后的第二天早上，他就开始处理克罗溪案。
He had the handwritten statements the girls had given to the police.
他有女孩们向警方提供的手写陈述。
He had the ones from the Miller boys.
他有米勒兄弟的那些。
No one had said a thing about racial remarks.
没有人对种族言论发表任何评论。
I think it was the next day, or perhaps two days after November 1.
我想是第二天，或者可能是 11 月 1 日之后的两天。
A television station came to town and asked me whether or not our office viewed the events as having been racially motivated.
一家电视台来到镇上，问我我们的办公室是否认为这些事件是出于种族动机。
And I said, well based upon what I've got in front of me here, I don't see it as racial in nature.
我说，根据我面前的情况，我不认为这本质上是种族歧视。
Racism isn't something people in Hand County deal with much, because there's basically just one race here.
汉德县的人们不太关心种族主义，因为这里基本上只有一种种族。
The Chieftain basketball team drove in from the county next door.
酋长篮球队从隔壁县城开车过来。
We are, oddly enough, according to the recent census statistics, one of the ten most racially unmixed populations in the nation.
奇怪的是，根据最近的人口普查统计数据，我们是全国种族最单一的十个人口之一。
The ten most Caucasian counties in the nation include Hand County.
全国白人人口最多的十个县包括汉德县。
And so race relations have not been a problem in this community, at least in 18 years I've been State's Attorney.
因此，种族关系在这个社区并不是一个问题，至少在我担任州检察官的 18 年里是这样。
The South Dakota press quickly picked up news of the incident.
南达科他州媒体很快报道了这一事件的消息。
Some stories implied that people in Miller weren't taking the crime as seriously as they should.
一些故事暗示米勒的人们并没有像他们应该的那样认真对待这起犯罪事件。
All of the publicity was extremely negative.
所有的宣传都是极其负面的。
The Miller police department, my office, the State's Attorney's Office, the court system, most of those persons or entities that I just mentioned were painted with a broad brush as racist, prejudiced, incompetent, unwilling to see reality.
米勒警察局、我的办公室、州检察官办公室、法院系统，我刚才提到的大多数人或实体都被笼统地描绘成种族主义、偏见、无能、不愿看到现实的人。
We were all excoriated.
我们都被痛斥了。
Jim Jones has a folder of all the articles in front of us on his desk.
吉姆·琼斯的桌子上有一个文件夹，里面有我们面前的所有文章。
He starts to flip through them and try to find parts to read.
他开始翻阅它们并尝试找到可以阅读的部分。
He gets so frustrated that he shuts the folder.
他非常沮丧，于是关闭了文件夹。
He thinks the stories make him look like he didn't know how to handle this case, that he didn't care about getting justice for the Native American girls.
他认为这些故事让他看起来不知道如何处理这个案子，也不关心为美国原住民女孩伸张正义。
He says the press reports made things especially awkward for him with the Crow Creek girls and their families.
他说，媒体报道让他与克罗溪女孩及其家人的关系变得特别尴尬。
It's hard enough to cross from one world to another in South Dakota.
在南达科他州，从一个世界穿越到另一个世界已经够困难的了。
Some Indians say that living conditions on the reservations get worse as you drive west in South Dakota.
一些印第安人说，当你在南达科他州向西行驶时，保留地的生活条件会变得更糟。
And Pine Ridge is the westernmost reservation in the state.
松岭是该州最西端的保留地。
But it's radio station, KINI FM, makes Pine Ridge seem a lot less bleak.
但 KINI FM 广播电台让松岭看起来不那么黯淡了。
It broadcast everything from country songs to pow wow music to the names of the children who are graduating from the Little Womb School's kindergarten class.
它播放各种内容，从乡村歌曲到战俘音乐，再到从小子宫学校幼儿园班毕业的孩子们的名字。
Congratulations to Tristan Apple, Tyler Hairy Bird, Asa Old Horse, Autumn Little White Man, Alan Little White Man, Brandon Little White Man, Tammy Wounded Head, and Phil Zinegot Junior.
恭喜特里斯坦·阿普尔、泰勒·毛鸟、阿萨·老马、秋小白人、艾伦·小白人、布兰登·小白人、塔米·受伤头和菲尔·齐内戈特。
This message is brought to you by the Little Womb School and KINI FM Radio, the voice of the Lakota nation.
此消息由 Little Womb School 和 KINI FM Radio（拉科塔民族之声）向您传达。
[MUSIC PLAYING] Arlene Weasel Bear Kind of small.
[音乐播放] 阿琳黄鼠狼 有点小。
These houses are kind of small.
这些房子有点小。
But they work.
但它们有效。
Arlene Weasel Bear not only plays power forward on the Crow Creek basketball team, she's an MVP in golf and wrestles well enough to have gone with the team to Tokyo.
Arlene Weasel Bear 不仅是 Crow Creek 篮球队的大前锋，还是高尔夫比赛的 MVP，并且摔跤能力出色，可以随队前往东京。
She has five sisters, and in the living room, a large collection of awards and photographs adorns the walls.
她有五个姐妹，客厅的墙上挂着大量的奖项和照片。
A basketball magic markered with her nickname, Chub, sits on top of the TV.
电视上方放置着一个篮球魔术，上面标有她的昵称“Chub”。
Being in this room is like standing inside a scrapbook.
身处这个房间就像站在剪贴簿里。
There are Head Start graduation photos and prom pictures.
有 Head Start 毕业照片和舞会照片。
Then, amidst all the medals, Arlene's mom, Lucille, points out a newspaper clipping.
然后，在所有奖牌中，阿琳的妈妈露西尔指着一张剪报。
OK, and this was in the Lakota Journal, like a Native American newspaper.
好的，这是在《拉科塔日报》上，就像美国原住民报纸一样。
But this is really something.
但这确实是一件事情。
The parents of the Crow Creek Tribal School girls basketball players are wondering if their children need to wear bulletproof vests when venturing off the reservation for sports.
克罗溪部落学校女子篮球运动员的父母想知道他们的孩子在离开保留地参加运动时是否需要穿防弹背心。
This was the second time something traumatic happened to Arlene when she left the reservation for a basketball game.
这是阿琳第二次离开预订处观看篮球比赛时发生创伤性事件。
The first time was during a tournament several years ago when a white woman said that Arlene was a boy and her team should be disqualified.
第一次是在几年前的一次锦标赛中，一名白人妇女说阿琳是个男孩，她的球队应该被取消资格。
Someone took Arlene and a couple of her teammates into a stall in the bathroom and checked.
有人把阿琳和她的几个队友带到浴室的隔间里检查。
Arlene's mother and some other parents took legal action.
阿琳的母亲和其他一些父母采取了法律行动。
But the case was thrown out of court.
但此案被法庭驳回。
This year, after the incident in Miller, Arlene and the other girls all had a tough time recovering.
今年，米勒事件发生后，阿琳和其他女孩都很难康复。
The girl who couldn't unbuckle her seat belt in the Dairy Queen parking lot is still so upset that she doesn't want to talk to me on tape.
那个在冰雪皇后停车场无法解开安全带的女孩仍然很沮丧，以至于她不想在录音中和我说话。
Jessica's mother says that Jessica's personality changed.
杰西卡的妈妈说杰西卡的性格发生了变化。
Jessica was the Crow Creek homecoming queen.
杰西卡是克罗溪返校节女王。
She has so many friends that people say she's doing one of seven rights of the Sioux Nation, making relatives.
她有很多朋友，人们说她正在履行苏族七项权利之一：结交亲戚。
But after Miller, she'd stay in her dorm room, just lie on her bed and listen to her pow wow CDs.
但在米勒之后，她会呆在宿舍里，躺在床上听她的 pow wow CD。
She'd pray with her medicine bundle, which she made a couple years ago after she felt a sharp pain in her leg like someone was using bad medicine on her when she came down from making a layup during a basketball game.
她会拿着药包祈祷，这是她几年前做的，当时她在一场篮球比赛中上篮时感到腿上剧烈疼痛，就像有人在她身上使用了劣质药物一样。
After the basketball game in Miller, Arlene went back to the dorms at Crow Creek.
米勒的篮球比赛结束后，阿琳回到克罗溪的宿舍。
But she started calling home more than usual.
但她开始比平时更多地打电话回家。
A couple weeks later, she came for a visit and announced that she didn't want to go back to school and she didn't want to talk about the incident.
几周后，她来看望她，并宣布她不想回学校，也不想谈论这件事。
I never told nobody my feelings about it.
我从未告诉过任何人我对此的感受。
I tried, but I can't.
我尝试过，但我做不到。
It can't come out.
是出不来的。
When she came home, her dad took her out back and taught her to shoot a gun.
当她回到家时，她爸爸带她出去并教她射击。
He thought it might relieve her anger.
他认为这样可以缓解她的愤怒。
But it just gave her flashbacks of hiding on the floor of the car.
但这只是让她想起了躲在汽车地板上的情景。
Arlene left the clothes from the Miller night in the laundry basket for three weeks.
阿琳把米勒之夜的衣服放在洗衣篮里三个星期。
Eventually she started wearing them again, but not together, the pants with a different shirt and the shirt with different pants.
最终她又开始穿它们，但不是一起穿，裤子搭配不同的衬衫，衬衫搭配不同的裤子。
At home, Arlene's mom told her, whenever you're ready, come and talk.
在家里，阿琳的妈妈告诉她，只要你准备好了，就过来说话。
But Arlene was silent and she refused to leave the house.
但阿琳保持沉默，拒绝离开家。
I didn't want to see no white people.
我不想看到白人。
I just stayed home.
我只是呆在家里。
My sister asked me to go to movies.
我姐姐约我去看电影。
But I didn't go with her because I would see white people.
但我没有和她一起去，因为我会看到白人。
I didn't like white people.
我不喜欢白人。
For two weeks Arlene sat on the couch.
阿琳在沙发上坐了两个星期。
Maybe she'd quit school.
也许她会退学。
Maybe she'd quit basketball, which seemed to make white people hate you even more.
也许她会退出篮球，这似乎会让白人更加讨厌你。
Then one night, she headed out in the car.
然后一天晚上，她就开车出去了。
I left and I went and sat on a hill back there.
我离开了，坐在后面的一座小山上。
And it's like a big old hill.
它就像一座古老的大山。
You can see everything, all the houses.
你可以看到一切，所有的房子。
You see everything there.
你在那里看到了一切。
And I just sat up there and I was just thinking how we got treated.
我只是坐在那里，想着我们是如何受到对待的。
And I don't know how white people think they should be the only ones on this earth.
我不知道白人如何认为他们应该是地球上唯一的人。
I thought I'd make everyone feel better if we weren't here, if I wasn't.
我想如果我们不在这里，如果我不在这里，我会让每个人感觉好一点。
But then I thought how my family would suffer.
但转念一想，我的家人将会遭受怎样的痛苦。
So I didn't.
所以我没有。
I came home.
我回到家了。
I think it was about 2:30 in the morning.
我想那是凌晨2点30分左右。
And I was asleep right here.
而我就在这里睡着了。
And she just told me, you know, mom, I'm ready.
她只是告诉我，你知道，妈妈，我准备好了。
So I said, let's go.
所以我说，我们走吧。
And so we went outside.
于是我们就出去了。
We stood there and I remember it was really kind of a cold night.
我们站在那里，我记得那是一个非常寒冷的夜晚。
And the stars were really bright.
星星真的很亮。
And then I just asked her to tell me.
然后我就让她告诉我。
Arlene and Lucille talked about how she wanted to kill herself, quit school, never wanted to play ball again.
阿琳和露西尔谈到她如何想自杀、退学、再也不想打球了。
And by the morning, Arlene believed that she was stronger than the awful thing that happened.
到了早上，阿琳相信她比发生的可怕事情更坚强。
And she was ready to go back to school.
她准备回学校了。
Lucille told her she couldn't let that one boy take everything away.
露西尔告诉她，她不能让那个男孩夺走一切。
She taught her a lesson a lot of Native American mothers teach their children.
她给她上了很多美国原住民母亲教给她们孩子的一课。
You can't let racism ruin your life.
你不能让种族主义毁了你的生活。
But it exists.
但它确实存在。
And you have to be practical about it.
你必须务实一点。
We teach our children, when you go shopping anywhere, just because we're Native American, you do not have anything on you that does not have a receipt.
我们教育我们的孩子，当你去任何地方购物时，仅仅因为我们是美国原住民，你身上就没有任何没有收据的东西。
I teach my children to always do the best that they can with their abilities.
我教导我的孩子们要凭借自己的能力做到最好。
But if there's ever a selection and there's a non-Indian involved, and even though you're the most qualified, chances are you might not get selected just because you're Native.
但如果有一次选拔，而且有非印度人参与，即使你是最有资格的，你也可能不会仅仅因为你是本地人而被选中。
So we build them up and yet you put insecurities in their minds.
所以我们建立了他们，但你却给他们带来了不安全感。
For the Native Americans, this is the context for the shooting.
对于美洲原住民来说，这就是枪击事件的背景。
Lucille tells me about a host of racial incidents where there was a comment or a look against her or one of her girls.
露西尔向我讲述了一系列种族事件，其中有人对她或她的一个女儿发表评论或眼神。
Some whites in South Dakota believe that Native Americans get everything from the government for free including their houses, which, of course isn't true.
南达科他州的一些白人认为，美洲原住民从政府免费获得一切，包括他们的房子，这当然不是事实。
One time I went into the Family Thrift Center in Rapid City.
有一次我走进拉皮德城的家庭节俭中心。
And we went through line.
我们就过了线。
And I said, can I have dry ice for my meat?
我说，我的肉可以用干冰吗？
And she said, there's a fee for it.
她说，这是要收费的。
So I said, oh, OK.
所以我说，哦，好吧。
I never knew they charged for dry ice.
我从来不知道他们对干冰收费。
And she said, well you can't expect everything free.
她说，你不能指望一切都是免费的。
So I said, you know, I was going to pay for it.
所以我说，你知道，我会为此付出代价。
I never knew I was charged for it.
我从来不知道我因此被指控。
And I kind of looked at my surroundings.
我观察了一下周围的环境。
And then there was some white people behind me.
然后我身后就有一些白人。
And I felt really embarrassed.
我感到非常尴尬。
And I started thinking about, you know, I work so hard.
我开始思考，你知道，我工作这么努力。
I have a job and everything.
我有工作和一切。
And I didn't know.
我不知道。
And I just went off on her.
我就对她发脾气了。
Are you saying that because I'm Native American because a lot of them do get free things?
你这么说是因为我是美国原住民，因为他们中的很多人确实得到了免费的东西吗？
And I told her that there are some Indians that work.
我告诉她有一些印度人在工作。
And I'm one of them.
我就是其中之一。
I don't appreciate you saying that to me.
我不欣赏你对我这么说。
Coming up, white kids in the town of Miller explained how the Indians have it all wrong about the night of the shooting.
接下来，米勒镇的白人孩子解释了印第安人对枪击事件当晚的误解。
In a minute, from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International when our program continues.
稍后，芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life .
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose some theme, bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，每周我们的节目都会选择一些主题，为您带来关于该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's program, High Speed Chase.
今天的节目是《高速追逐》。
Susan Burton's story about South Dakota continues.
苏珊·伯顿关于南达科他州的故事仍在继续。
In Miller, it's hard to get the teenagers to talk about the Crow Creek incident.
在米勒，很难让青少年谈论克罗溪事件。
Most of them are sensitive about the way their town has been portrayed.
他们中的大多数人对他们的城镇被描绘的方式很敏感。
One girl tells me that because of the Internet, people all over the United States probably think Miller is a racist town.
一个女孩告诉我，由于互联网的存在，全美国的人们可能都认为米勒是一个种族主义小镇。
And we're not racist, they tell me.
他们告诉我，我们不是种族主义者。
The chief of police says that after the story started appearing in the paper, the teenage witnesses he interviewed would just clam up when he got to the race questions, just not say anything at all.
警察局长说，当这个故事开始出现在报纸上后，他采访的青少年目击者在他谈到种族问题时只是保持沉默，什么也没说。
Because the boys are juveniles, their names haven't been published in the press.
由于这些男孩还未成年，他们的名字尚未在媒体上公布。
And they're not talking to reporters.
他们不接受记者采访。
Their lawyers did not return repeated phone calls.
他们的律师多次电话均未回复。
The teenagers in Miller are very protective of them.
米勒的青少年非常保护他们。
Many won't say the names.
很多人都不会说出名字。
But every teenager in Miller knows why that one boy fired a shotgun.
但米勒的每个青少年都知道为什么那个男孩开枪。
I know the reason that he did it is that he was drunk.
我知道他这样做的原因是他喝醉了。
And that's not an excuse to shoot a gun or anything.
这不是开枪或其他任何事情的借口。
But his car is his baby.
但他的车是他的宝贝。
And they threw a milkshake right at it.
他们就向它扔了一杯奶昔。
As far as I'm concerned, they were asking for something.
就我而言，他们是在要求一些东西。
They were just asking for a good butt whooping.
他们只是要求一个好屁股欢呼。
I mean, if you saw a really sexy race car and you threw a milkshake at it, of course you'd be expecting the owner to be a little bit torked.
我的意思是，如果你看到一辆非常性感的赛车，然后你向它扔了一杯奶昔，你当然会期望车主有点兴奋。
The boy was famous for taking care of his car.
这个男孩因爱护他的汽车而闻名。
It's a Buick sports car with a bra on it.
这是一辆别克跑车，上面有胸罩。
And he paid for it himself.
而且是他自己付钱的。
The explanation is related with fervor by all the teenagers.
这个解释与所有青少年的热情有关。
This is honestly how they see it.
老实说，他们就是这么看的。
Even teenagers who are sympathetic to the Crow Creek girls, like Nicole, high school junior.
甚至还有同情克罗溪女孩的青少年，比如高中三年级的妮可。
I mean, who wouldn't be scared if a gun was being fired?
我的意思是，如果有人开枪，谁会不害怕呢？
And the only thing that can be crossed into your mind is that oh my god, I might be shot or I might die.
你脑子里唯一能想到的就是天哪，我可能会被枪杀，或者我可能会死。
I mean, who wouldn't be scared of that?
我的意思是，谁不会害怕呢？
But then again, I mean, they can't put all the blame on us.
但话又说回来，我的意思是，他们不能把所有的责任都归咎于我们。
Because they were the ones that threw the milkshake on the car and set that boy off.
因为他们是把奶昔扔到车上并把那个男孩放走的人。
Because that boy is very, I don't know, he likes to take care of his car a lot.
因为那个男孩非常，我不知道，他非常喜欢保养他的车。
He doesn't even like water being thrown on it because he's afraid that the water is leave spots on his window.
他甚至不喜欢把水泼在上面，因为他担心水会在窗户上留下斑点。
I mean who wouldn't get mad if a milkshake was just being thrown on the car.
我的意思是，如果奶昔被扔到车上谁不会生气。
In a sense, the disagreement over what happened that night is a dispute over where the story begins.
从某种意义上说，对那天晚上发生的事情的分歧就是对故事从哪里开始的争论。
And for the teenagers in Miller, the story begins right there.
对于米勒的青少年来说，故事就从这里开始。
It starts the moment the smoothie smacks down on the car.
从冰沙落在汽车上的那一刻起就开始了。
The teenagers all tell me how the newspapers and the Native Americans started bringing things into it, the war whoops, the racial remarks.
青少年们都告诉我报纸和美洲原住民如何开始将一些东西带入其中，战争呐喊，种族言论。
They thought this was adding parts to the story that didn't make sense.
他们认为这在故事中添加了没有意义的部分。
They just don't see any connection between the racial remarks and the high speed chase.
他们只是看不出种族言论和高速追逐之间有任何联系。
Most of the Miller teenager don't even believe that their crowd made racial remarks that night.
大多数米勒少年甚至不相信他们的人群那天晚上发表了种族言论。
One of the teenagers who does is Jennifer.
詹妮弗就是其中一位这样做的青少年。
She's 16 and was working at Dairy Queen the night of the shooting.
枪击事件发生当晚，她 16 岁，正在冰雪皇后 (Dairy Queen) 工作。
If anything, she says, the racial comments went both ways.
她说，如果说有什么不同的话，那就是种族评论是双向的。
I wasn't there at the basketball game.
我没有参加篮球比赛。
But I can't say how it was.
但我不能说它是怎样的。
But I know, actually, one of my friends did get commented on being racist.
但我知道，实际上，我的一位朋友确实受到了种族歧视的评论。
I mean, not being racist, but having a white racist term yelled at her.
我的意思是，不是种族主义，而是用白人种族主义的词语对她大喊大叫。
And so she yelled one back.
于是她又喊了一声。
And so I think it was like 50/50.
所以我认为这就像 50/50 一样。
She was walking by the stands and she got caught, I think, white trash or something like that.
她走过看台，我想她被白色垃圾之类的东西抓住了。
And she was mad and angry.
她又生气又生气。
Maybe I don't see the term she used.
也许我没看到她用的这个词。
I actually never heard of it until she was telling the story.
事实上，直到她讲这个故事之前我才听说过。
I'm like, oh.
我就像，哦。
What term is it?
这是什么术语？
Jennifer It was prairie nigger.
詹妮弗 这是草原黑鬼。
I don't think she feels bad because she got called it first.
我不认为她因为她先被叫而感到难过。
And if that person doesn't really feel bad then why should she?
如果那个人并不真的感到难过那她为什么要感到难过呢？
When the reservation teams come down here, there's a lot of tension.
当预订团队来到这里时，气氛非常紧张。
This is Candace.
这是坎迪斯。
She's 16 and wore a coat with a faux fur collar.
她今年 16 岁，穿着一件人造毛领外套。
She's the only teenager I talked to who wore thrift store type clothes, like kids in the city wear.
她是我交谈过的唯一一个穿着旧货店类型衣服的青少年，就像城里孩子们穿的那样。
We've had to have kids get kicked out because of saying Indian, or prairie nigger, and stuff like that.
我们不得不让孩子因为说“印第安人”或“草原黑鬼”之类的话而被赶出去。
They were raised with it.
他们是伴随着它长大的。
Their parents taught them.
他们的父母教导他们。
I don't think that you have to say, well, Indians are evil.
我不认为你必须说，好吧，印度人是邪恶的。
Don't go near them.
不要靠近他们。
They're just taking their money.
他们只是拿走他们的钱。
That's the big thing around here.
这就是这里的大事。
That's another comment that was made at games that had Indians there.
这是在有印第安人参加的比赛中发表的另一条评论。
They'd say, oh, you shouldn't even be playing on our damn court because we're paying for your shoes or we're paying for your uniforms.
他们会说，哦，你甚至不应该在我们该死的球场上打球，因为我们正在为你的鞋子付钱，或者我们正在为你的制服付钱。
Candace has lived in Miller for three years now.
坎迪斯已经在米勒住了三年了。
But before this, she lived in a lot of other places.
但在此之前，她曾住过很多其他地方。
Her family moved 20 times before she was five, she says.
她说，在她五岁之前，她的家人搬了 20 次家。
It was because of her dad.
这是因为她的父亲。
He wasn't in the Army.
他不在军队。
He was in the New Age Movement.
他参加了新时代运动。
He believes he was an alien from outer space come to save humans, us, from the bad aliens who were in cahoots with the government, selling dead bodies for more technology.
他相信他是来自外太空的外星人，来拯救人类，我们，免受与政府勾结的坏外星人的侵害，出售尸体以获取更多技术。
And he was building spaceships in our garage and going on spaceship meetings and spaceship trips with his friends.
他在我们的车库里建造宇宙飞船，并与他的朋友们一起参加宇宙飞船会议和宇宙飞船旅行。
And we moved around a lot because I think we were running from the law.
我们经常搬家，因为我认为我们是在逃避法律。
I think the most I remember about him was watching Star Trek with him and eating popcorn.
我想我对他印象最深的就是和他一起看《星际迷航》并吃爆米花。
That's all I remember.
我只记得这些。
Candace likes Miller.
坎迪斯喜欢米勒。
She says there are good people here.
她说这里有好人。
Not everyone says bad stuff a basketball games.
并不是每个人都会在篮球比赛中说坏话。
Candace sees the tensions that do come up as part of an ongoing history.
坎迪斯认为，确实出现的紧张局势是持续历史的一部分。
It's the whole cowboys versus Indians thing, you know?
这就是牛仔与印第安人的对抗，你知道吗？
I mean Custer and all that other crap that happened, Wounded Knee.
我的意思是卡斯特和所有其他发生的废话，受伤的膝盖。
That stuff is hardcore.
那东西是硬核的。
Cowboys, I mean, I'm talking the works.
牛仔们，我是说，我说的是作品。
When they work, they put on those chaps and everything.
当他们工作时，他们会穿上那些小伙子和所有东西。
They go cattle driving.
他们去赶牛。
They brand.
他们品牌。
It's cowboy, cowboy, cowboy.
这是牛仔，牛仔，牛仔。
I mean, everybody.
我的意思是，大家。
The kids too, in school, cowboy boots, big old huge belt buckles that take up half their stomach.
孩子们在学校也是如此，牛仔靴，又大又旧的皮带扣占据了他们一半的胃。
The cowboys in my town, they do not like Indians.
我镇上的牛仔不喜欢印第安人。
They will let you know it.
他们会让你知道的。
And they don't like black people.
而且他们不喜欢黑人。
They like white people.
他们喜欢白人。
They even have a problem with me sometimes because I'm a little eccentric for the people around here.
他们有时甚至对我有意见，因为我对这里的人来说有点古怪。
I wear weird clothes from the city.
我穿着城里的奇怪衣服。
And even that will freak them out.
即使这样也会吓坏他们。
It's all about tradition.
这都是关于传统的。
If you're not the traditional, they don't like it at all.
如果你不是传统的人，他们根本不喜欢它。
If there's a frontier mentality at some South Dakota schools, frontier country is looking more and more like it used to.
如果说南达科他州的一些学校有一种边疆心态，那么边疆国家看起来越来越像以前了。
Native prairie grass is growing over abandoned farmland.
废弃农田上生长着原生草原草。
There are more buffalo on the planes than anytime since the 1870s.
飞机上的水牛数量比 1870 年代以来任何时候都多。
And the population is shrinking, enough so that the region meets the 19th century census bureau definition of frontier, six people or fewer per square mile.
而且人口正在减少，足以使该地区符合 19 世纪人口普查局对边境的定义，即每平方英里 6 人或更少。
South Dakota, like a lot of this region, is on the white side, getting older.
南达科他州和该地区的许多地区一样，都是白人，而且正在变老。
Jennifer Ring is the only ACLU staffer for two states, North Dakota and South Dakota.
詹妮弗·林 (Jennifer Ring) 是北达科他州和南达科他州两个州唯一的美国公民自由联盟 (ACLU) 工作人员。
The folks are leaving the farm.
人们正在离开农场。
So you have an aging white population and a thinning white population.
因此，白人人口正在老龄化，而白人人口正在减少。
At the same time, the Native American population it is very young.
与此同时，美洲原住民人口也非常年轻。
They have a higher birth rate.
他们的出生率较高。
And their kids tend much more to stay in the state.
他们的孩子更倾向于留在该州。
And that means that as time goes on, power really is shifting.
这意味着随着时间的推移，权力确实正在发生变化。
The 2000 census showed some rural counties losing 10% to 20% of their population in a decade while the number of Native Americans in the state grew 23%.
2000 年的人口普查显示，一些农村县的人口在十年内减少了 10% 至 20%，而该州的美洲原住民人数却增长了 23%。
It's hard to say exactly what that means since Native Americans have probably been severely undercounted in previous years.
很难确切地说这意味着什么，因为前几年美洲原住民的数量可能被严重低估。
But the changing demographics are dramatic in some communities right near the reservations, border towns.
但在保留地和边境城镇附近的一些社区，人口结构的变化是巨大的。
Some of the ACLU's current voting rights cases involve efforts by whites to block the new influence of Native Americans in local elections, like for school boards.
美国公民自由联盟目前的一些投票权案件涉及白人努力阻止美洲原住民在地方选举（例如学校董事会）中产生新的影响力。
But some of the biggest complaints are with the criminal justice system.
但最大的一些抱怨是针对刑事司法系统的。
In the past few years, there have been a handful of deaths the Native community feels haven't been taken seriously by law enforcement.
在过去的几年里，发生了几起死亡事件，原住民社区认为执法部门没有认真对待。
They feel that racial profiling is rampant, that they're punished more harshly than whites.
他们认为种族定性十分猖獗，他们受到的惩罚比白人更严厉。
The U.S. Civil Rights Commission looked into all this a couple years ago.
美国民权委员会几年前调查了这一切。
They invited Native Americans and others to come to a Holiday Inn and tell their stories.
他们邀请美洲原住民和其他人来到假日酒店并讲述他们的故事。
Dozens showed up.
数十人出现。
Not everybody could speak at the hearing.
并非所有人都能在听证会上发言。
They had people taking testimony off to the side from all these people.
他们让人从所有这些人那里获取证词。
And the committee report was absolutely scathing about Native Americans and the South Dakota justice system.
该委员会的报告对美洲原住民和南达科他州司法系统绝对是严厉的。
The chairman of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission said that this was worse than anything she was seeing in LA or any of those places.
美国民权委员会主席表示，这比她在洛杉矶或其他任何地方看到的情况都要糟糕。
There was clear, pervasive, overwhelming lack of faith in the justice department by the community.
社区对司法部门明显、普遍、压倒性地缺乏信心。
And that needed to be addressed.
这需要解决。
Unfortunately, rather than trying to address that seriously, the governor of South Dakota dismissed it.
不幸的是，南达科他州州长没有认真解决这个问题，而是驳回了它。
Governor William Janklow claimed the hearings weren't a true portrait and commissioned his own study to figure out exactly what was going on.
州长威廉·詹克洛声称听证会并不是真实的情况，并委托他自己进行研究以弄清楚究竟发生了什么。
Its release has been delayed.
它的发布已被推迟。
The problem seems even worse when you consider the fact that according to a 1999 Justice Department study, American Indians are more likely to be the victims of interracial violence than any other race.
考虑到根据 1999 年司法部的一项研究，美国印第安人比任何其他种族更有可能成为种族暴力的受害者，这一事实似乎更加严重。
And more than 60% of the time, the aggressor is a white person.
而且超过60%的情况下，侵略者是白人。
In comparison, blacks are victimized by whites about 12% of the time.
相比之下，黑人在大约 12% 的情况下成为白人的受害者。
It would be hard to find anybody in this community that was sympathetic to what they did.
在这个社区中很难找到任何人同情他们的所作所为。
At least I haven't seen any.
至少我没见过。
They were all either quite embarrassed or quite angry about what happened.
他们对所发生的事情要么非常尴尬，要么非常愤怒。
When it came time for the Miller boys to be punished, the people of Miller wanted Crow Creek to know that they took the crime seriously.
当米勒男孩受到惩罚时，米勒的人们希望克罗溪知道他们认真对待这一罪行。
The State's Attorney, Jim Jones, charged the boys with aggravated assault and petitioned to transfer them to adult court where they could face up to 90 years in prison.
州检察官吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones) 指控这些男孩犯有严重攻击罪，并请求将他们移交成人法庭，在那里他们可能面临最高 90 年的监禁。
But he and the police did not see the crime as part of a larger pattern of interracial violence.
但他和警方并不认为这起犯罪行为是更大范围的种族暴力的一部分。
Chief of Police, Ernie Stirling ran the investigation.
警察局长厄尼·斯特林负责调查。
Maybe for the Native American population similar things have happened elsewhere enough that they feel justified in saying this is the trend.
也许对于美洲原住民来说，类似的事情在其他地方已经发生过足够多的事情，以至于他们觉得有理由说这是趋势。
This is the way we get treated when we go somewhere else.
这就是我们去其他地方时受到的待遇。
Maybe that's the case.
也许就是这样。
I personally don't have any knowledge of that.
我个人对此一无所知。
All I can speak about is here, in Miller, South Dakota where I've worked since 1979, this has never happened before.
我只能说这里，在南达科他州米勒，我自 1979 年以来一直在那里工作，以前从未发生过这种情况。
In the end, the police investigation couldn't prove that the two boys in the car were the ones who made racial remarks back on the side of the road or at the game.
最终，警方的调查无法证明车内的两个男孩就是在路边或比赛时发表种族言论的人。
So like most of the town, State's Attorney Jim Jones concluded that this was not a racially motivated incident.
因此，与镇上大多数人一样，州检察官吉姆·琼斯得出的结论是，这不是出于种族动机的事件。
I think to the extent that there was anything racially offensive offered by either of those kids at any juncture that night, and I underline the word if, I'm very sorry that that happened.
我认为那天晚上的任何时候，这些孩子中的任何一个都提出了任何带有种族歧视的言论，我强调了“如果”这个词，我对发生的事情感到非常抱歉。
But I think uttering a racially offensive epithets would have been evidence of dumb decision making.
但我认为说出种族攻击性的绰号将是愚蠢决策的证据。
I think chasing those girls at high speeds and discharging a weapon out the window was evidence of bad decision making.
我认为高速追赶那些女孩并向窗外开枪是做出错误决定的证据。
I don't think the two are related anymore than they are evidence that the decision makers have made a series of bad decisions.
我认为这两者没有任何关系，因为它们证明了决策者做出了一系列错误的决定。
The judge declined to try the boys as adults, which is what happens under South Dakota law if a teenager seems like he can be rehabilitated in the juvenile system.
法官拒绝将这些男孩视为成年人进行审判，根据南达科他州法律，如果一名青少年似乎可以在少年系统中康复，就会发生这种情况。
But for Jessica and Arlene, this decision just seemed to confirm that the crime wasn't being taken seriously.
但对于杰西卡和阿琳来说，这个决定似乎只是证实了这一罪行没有得到认真对待。
Here's Arlene.
这是阿琳。
Like so many times they delayed it.
就像很多次他们推迟了一样。
I really didn't care of it.
我真的没在意它。
They aren't going to get anything done.
他们不会完成任何事情。
They didn't care.
他们不在乎。
I thought they were like, oh the Indians, just forget about it.
我以为他们会说，哦印第安人，忘了它吧。
I thought they were thinking that.
我以为他们是这么想的。
Hearing that the legal system didn't consider this a racially motivated incident just made things worse.
听说法律系统不认为这是出于种族动机的事件，这只会让事情变得更糟。
Now Jessica figured that the boys would just get probation.
现在杰西卡认为男孩们只会得到缓刑。
She no longer had any confidence that the court system was going to handle things right.
她不再相信法院系统会正确处理事情。
She even felt like her own high school was trying to pretend that what happened wasn't so bad.
她甚至觉得自己的高中试图假装所发生的事情并没有那么糟糕。
At one point Jessica, the homecoming queen, almost walked out of a boy's basketball game in which Crow Creek and Wessington Springs attempted to make peace.
有一次，返校节女王杰西卡差点从一场男子篮球比赛中退出，这场比赛克罗溪和威辛顿斯普林斯试图讲和。
Before the boys actually played, they called each student councils onto the floor.
在男孩们真正比赛之前，他们将每个学生会召集到地板上。
And they made truce that hopefully everything will be resolved.
他们达成了休战协议，希望一切都能得到解决。
And I was just sitting up there in the crowd.
我只是坐在人群中。
I was like, this has been happening to you guys for how many years and you guys are just going to call a truce and everything go?
我当时想，这种事已经发生在你们身上多少年了，你们只是要休战，然后一切就都过去了？
It's always going to be there.
它总是会在那里。
There's nothing you guys can say or do to say it's going to be OK.
你们无法说什么或做什么来保证一切都会好起来的。
It's always going to be there.
它总是会在那里。
The Hand County Courthouse is the grandest building in Miller.
汉德县法院是米勒最宏伟的建筑。
Inside, there are marble columns and a stained glass dome.
里面有大理石柱和彩色玻璃圆顶。
As you climb the stairs, it's like you're entering another time when people were making up the rules of the country.
当你爬上楼梯时，你就像进入了另一个人们制定国家规则的时代。
On the morning of the boys hearing, every single person in the courtroom is white.
在男孩听证会的那天早上，法庭上的每个人都是白人。
There are other cases first, mostly drinking offenses.
首先还有其他案件，主要是饮酒犯罪。
A 19-year-old in Levi's refuses to say where he got the beer and gets ten days in jail.
Levi's 店的一名 19 岁男子拒绝透露他从哪里得到啤酒，因此被判入狱 10 天。
The court reporter blows her bangs off her face.
法庭记者把她脸上的刘海吹掉。
Jim Jones rises to respond to the judge's queries.
吉姆·琼斯起身回答法官的询问。
And then suddenly the sheriff pushes open the door and Jessica, and Arlene, and their mothers, and several others walk into the room.
然后警长突然推开了门，杰西卡、阿琳、他们的母亲以及其他几个人走进了房间。
The attention shifts.
注意力转移了。
People edge around trying to see what the Native Americans in the courtroom are doing here.
人们四处走动，试图看看法庭上的美洲原住民在做什么。
And then it just starts into motion, a regular case on the list.
然后它就开始运转，这是列表中的常规情况。
This will not be a trial.
这不会是一次审判。
The boys have entered a guilty plea and the judge will just give them their sentences.
男孩们已经认罪，法官只会对他们判刑。
A boy with spiky hair appears and the proceedings begin.
一个头发尖尖的男孩出现，诉讼开始。
His lawyers spends a lot of time talking about the car.
他的律师花了很多时间讨论这辆车。
The boy is very protective of it and has been upset when it's been paintballed in the past.
这个男孩非常保护它，并且当它过去被彩弹射击时他感到很不安。
The lawyer says that the boy has never been in trouble before.
律师称男孩以前从未遇到过麻烦。
The boy stands and mumbles, I would just like to tell the court and everybody involved in this incident that I'm really sorry and I regret it every day of my life.
男孩站起来咕哝着，我只想告诉法庭和所有涉及这起事件的人，我真的很抱歉，我每天都在后悔。
That's it.
就是这样。
Then Judge Jon Erickson begins.
然后乔恩·埃里克森法官开始。
In every lie, there's an element of truth, he says.
他说，每一个谎言都包含着真实的成分。
The truth is you went around the girls.
事实是你绕过了女孩们。
But it wasn't to avoid smashing into them as you said in your statement, but rather to cut them off.
但这并不是像你声明中所说的避免撞到它们，而是切断它们。
The truth is you went to the police station.
事实是你去了警察局。
But the impression that you're trying to give here today, that you were going to be truthful about this, is not true.
但你今天试图在这里给人留下的印象是你会诚实地表达这一点，但这种印象并不真实。
I don't see any remorse.
我没有看到任何悔恨。
I don't see that you're a bit contrite.
我没看出你有一点悔悟。
Judge Erickson named more parts of the boy's story he doesn't believe.
埃里克森法官列举了男孩故事中更多他不相信的部分。
He chastises him for his behavior.
他因他的行为而惩罚他。
And he continues, if I read the news reports correctly, there are some who say the only way to be fair in this case, the only way to do justice, is to punish you harshly.
他接着说，如果我没看错新闻报道的话，有些人说在这种情况下唯一公平的方法、伸张正义的唯一方法就是严厉惩罚你。
If I thought for one moment that by treating you harshly I could cure racism in the state, I would probably do so.
如果我有那么一刻认为，通过严厉对待你，我可以治愈该州的种族主义，我可能会这样做。
If I thought for one moment that could cure the years of distrust between Indians and whites in this country, I would do so.
如果我有一瞬间想到这可以消除这个国家印第安人和白人之间多年来的不信任，我就会这么做。
But fortunately for you, I can't do that.
但对你来说幸运的是，我不能这样做。
Instead, I'm required to make a reasoned judgment.
相反，我需要做出合理的判断。
In South Dakota, a judge can either give juveniles probation or send them to juvenile detention.
在南达科他州，法官可以给予青少年缓刑，也可以将他们送至青少年拘留所。
The judge chose the more severe option for both boys, the Department of Corrections.
法官为这两个男孩选择了更严厉的选择：惩教署。
Just before the proceedings ended, Jim Jones announced that there were victims and the families present and asked if any of them would like to approach the bench.
就在诉讼程序结束前，吉姆·琼斯宣布有受害者和家属在场，并询问他们中是否有人愿意走近法官席。
I raised my hand and I'm like, do I stay here?
我举起手，心想，我要留在这里吗？
Do I sit here and talk or what do I do?
我是坐在这里说话还是做什么？
I didn't want to do something wrong where the judge might make a comment to me or anything.
我不想做错事，以免法官对我发表评论或其他任何事情。
Then he just told me to approach the bench.
然后他只是告诉我靠近板凳。
You mean go up there?
你是说上去吗？
But I sat down.
但我还是坐下了。
And I looked and I saw all the people in the courtroom.
我看了看，看到了法庭上的所有人。
I looked at Arlene and then I thought, OK.
我看着阿琳，然后想，好吧。
Well, I'm going to have to bring everybody up.
好吧，我得把大家都带上来。
And then that's what I did.
然后我就是这么做的。
Lucille sat in the witness chair swiveling a little from side to side.
露西尔坐在证人椅上，身体稍微从一侧转到另一侧。
She focused on one of the boys who'd been in juvenile corrections before.
她把注意力集中在一名曾在少年管教所里呆过的男孩身上。
She told him that she didn't feel sorry for him, that she didn't think that he felt sorry for the girls.
她告诉他，她并不为他感到难过，她不认为他为女孩们感到难过。
She said that he'd had all these chances to better himself, to improve.
她说他有所有这些机会来提高自己、提高自己。
She said, he should have been obedient to his parents.
她说，他应该孝顺父母。
Lucille looked at the boy's mother.
露西尔看着男孩的母亲。
She kind of had her head down.
她有点低着头。
But she was looking at me on the side of her eye.
但她用眼睛的一侧看着我。
In our culture we have minimum eye contact.
在我们的文化中，我们的目光接触最少。
If we stare or tend to look at someone for a period of time, then it becomes disrespectful.
如果我们盯着某人看或倾向于看某人一段时间，那就变得不尊重了。
And I know that like in the white man's world, eye contact is important.
我知道就像在白人的世界里一样，眼神交流很重要。
It shows interest.
它表现出兴趣。
And that day I went in there on his terms.
那天我按照他的条件进去了。
So I was going to stare.
所以我就打算盯着看。
Because I don't have respect for them anyway.
因为我无论如何都不尊重他们。
She was just brutally honest.
她只是非常诚实。
Susan Burton Again, the State's Attorney, Jim Jones.
苏珊·伯顿（Susan Burton） 又是州检察官吉姆·琼斯（Jim Jones）。
She turned to these kids and she says, look what kind of an impact you have had on the lives of these six girls.
她转向这些孩子说，看看你们对这六个女孩的生活产生了什么样的影响。
How can you look at yourself in the mirror and think that you have not wreaked havoc with these girls' personal lives.
你怎么能看着镜子里的自己，认为你没有对这些女孩的个人生活造成严重破坏。
If you find yourself in a cell, I want you to spend some time thinking about the impact your idiotic decision that night has had on the lives of others.
如果你发现自己被关在牢房里，我希望你花一些时间思考一下你那天晚上的愚蠢决定对其他人的生活产生了怎样的影响。
I kind of thought about all the things that happened, even to me, the racism and how we're mistreated.
我想到了发生的所有事情，甚至是对我来说，种族主义以及我们如何受到虐待。
And sometimes the justice system or the non-Indians tend to say, oh, they exaggerate.
有时司法系统或非印度人往往会说，哦，他们夸大了。
But it's not exaggerated.
但这并不夸张。
Arlene was crying when her mother spoke.
当她母亲说话时，阿琳正在哭。
I didn't think she was going to go off like that.
我没想到她会就这样走了。
I was pretty happy because my mom was the only one that got up and talked.
我很高兴，因为我妈妈是唯一站起来说话的人。
It made me feel cool that she really cares.
她真的很关心我，这让我感觉很酷。
The girls in the families felt like the hearing was a success, that this time the justice system took a crime as seriously as they did.
家庭中的女孩们觉得听证会很成功，这次司法系统像她们一样严肃对待犯罪。
They liked the things the judge said when he scolded the boys.
他们喜欢法官责骂男孩时所说的话。
And they were glad that the people in the room heard the Indian point of view from Lucille.
他们很高兴房间里的人从露西尔那里听到了印度的观点。
They told me about so many cases where things never seemed to get resolved fairly and bad feelings lingered.
他们告诉我很多案例，事情似乎从未得到公平解决，而且不好的感觉挥之不去。
But this was settled.
但这已经解决了。
They could put it behind them.
他们可以把它抛在身后。
After the hearing, Lucille hugged her daughters.
听证会结束后，露西尔拥抱了她的女儿们。
They're descendants of Sitting Bull.
他们是坐牛的后代。
And Sitting Bull was really a great chief.
坐牛确实是一位伟大的酋长。
And one of the things I always keep in mind from some of the things that he said, I can't really recall the whole thing, but he talks about how if the white man leaves something good, pick it and use it.
在他所说的一些事情中，我一直牢记的一件事是，我无法真正回忆起整件事，但他谈到了如果白人留下一些好东西，如何挑选它并使用它。
And if he leaves something bad, then leave it where it is.
如果他留下了什么不好的东西，那就把它留在原处。
So I kind of like that.
所以我有点喜欢这样。
I kind of liked that little statement that Sitting Bull made.
我有点喜欢坐牛的那句话。
And I think I left that bad thing in the courtroom.
我想我把那件坏事留在了法庭上。
The people on the reservation and the people in Miller never came to agree on where the story began.
保留地的人们和米勒的人们对于故事的开始始终没有达成一致。
But for Lucille and her daughters, here's where it ended: They got in their car and drove to Crow Creek.
但对于露西尔和她的女儿们来说，事情到这里就结束了：她们上了车，开往克罗溪。
They went to the casino, and ate cheese balls, and folded Arlene's graduation announcements.
他们去了赌场，吃了奶酪球，折了阿琳的毕业公告。
The girls joked with the waiter.
女孩们和服务员开玩笑。
They didn't even talk about court.
他们甚至没有谈论法庭。
Well, our program was produced today by Jonathan Goldstein and myself with Alex Blumberg, Wendy Dorr, and Starlee Kine, senior producer Julie Snyder, contributing editor Susan Burton, Rebecca [?
好吧，我们今天的节目由乔纳森·戈尔茨坦和我本人与亚历克斯·布伦伯格、温迪·多尔和斯塔莉·凯恩、高级制片人朱莉·斯奈德、特约编辑苏珊·伯顿、丽贝卡[？
Carroll ?], Jack [?
卡罗尔？]，杰克[？
Hitt, ?] Margie [UNINTELLIGIBLE], Alix Spiegel, Nancy Updike, and Consigliere Sarah Vowell.
希特，？]玛吉[听不清]、阿利克斯·斯皮格尔、南希·厄普代克和顾问莎拉·沃威尔。
Elizabeth Meister runs our website.
伊丽莎白·梅斯特 (Elizabeth Meister) 负责运营我们的网站。
Production help from Todd Bachmann and Chris [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
托德·巴赫曼 (Todd Bachmann) 和克里斯 (Chris) 为制作提供帮助 [难以理解]。
Susan Burton's story was produced with funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
苏珊·伯顿的故事是在公共广播公司的资助下制作的。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] To buy a cassette of this program, call us here at WBEZ Chicago, 312-832-3380 or visit our website where you can also listen to our programs for free, www.thisamericanlife.org.
[致谢] 要购买该节目的磁带，请致电 WBEZ Chicago，电话：312-832-3380，或者访问我们的网站，您也可以免费收听我们的节目：www.thisamericanlife.org。
This American Life comes to you from the city of Chicago.
这种美国生活来自芝加哥市。
Richard M.
理查德·M。
Daley, mayor.
戴利，市长。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight between Torey Malatia, who wants you to be absolutely clear about his location at all times.
[资金来源] Torey Malatia 之间的 WBEZ 管理监督，他希望您始终绝对清楚他的位置。
Sir, sir, sir.
先生，先生，先生。
Ira Glass I'm Ira Glass.
艾拉·格拉斯 我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life .
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。