206: Somewhere in the Arabian Sea - This American Life
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Prologue: Prologue Ira Glass Today's radio show was first recorded back in January 2002.
序言：序言 Ira Glass Today 的广播节目于 2002 年 1 月首次录制。
It was still very early after September 11, and US forces at the time were fighting in Afghanistan.
9月11日之后时间还很早，当时美军正在阿富汗作战。
Today, of course, there are many more Americans fighting in the region than there were back then, and so the show about what daily life is like for some men and women in the war on terror still seems relevant.
当然，今天在该地区作战的美国人比当时多得多，因此这部关于反恐战争中一些男女日常生活的节目似乎仍然具有现实意义。
Our enemies are in hiding.
我们的敌人躲藏起来了。
Some live in caves.
有些住在山洞里。
Some cross borders in disguise.
有些是伪装的跨越国界。
Some slip from one safe house to the next.
有些人从一个安全屋溜到另一个安全屋。
Sometimes they must go hungry.
有时他们必须挨饿。
They pray.
他们祈祷。
Meanwhile, on the largest warship ever built, stocked with the most advanced weapons in the world and a crew of over 5,000, an American sailor was doing her job in the war against terror.
与此同时，在有史以来最大的军舰上，配备了世界上最先进的武器和超过 5,000 名船员，一名美国水手正在反恐战争中履行职责。
My name is Crevon Scott.
我叫克雷文·斯科特。
I'm just filling up the vending machines.
我只是在给自动售货机装满东西。
Is that your full-time job?
那是你的全职工作吗？
Crevon Scott Yes.
克雷文·斯科特 是的。
It's your full-time job?
这是你的全职工作吗？
Crevon Scott Yeah, filling up vending machines all day for 12 hours.
Crevon Scott 是的，整天为自动售货机装满 12 个小时。
A few weeks ago, This American Life producers Alex Blumberg, Wendy Dorr, and I flew halfway around the world to spend some time on the USS John C.
几周前，《美国生活》的制片人亚历克斯·布隆伯格、温迪·多尔和我飞越半个地球，在约翰·C·肯尼迪号航空母舰上度过了一段时光。
Stennis.
斯坦尼斯.
The Stennis is one of two aircraft carriers that are launching jet fighters to support the ground troops in Afghanistan.
斯坦尼斯号是两艘出动喷气式战斗机支持阿富汗地面部队的航空母舰之一。
Alex is the one who talked to Crevon Scott.
亚历克斯是与克雷文·斯科特交谈的人。
What are the big sellers?
什么是大卖家？
Crevon Scott Right now, it's Snickers and Starburst.
Crevon Scott 现在是士力架和 Starburst。
Snickers goes real fast.
士力架走得真快。
What's the least favorite candy on board?
船上最不喜欢的糖果是什么？
Bonkers, the fruit chews.
疯狂，水果咀嚼。
We got boxes of those, and still have them.
我们有一盒这样的东西，现在仍然有。
Sometimes if we don't have anything else, we'll just put all rows of Bonkers, and they'll still stay in here.
有时，如果我们没有其他东西，我们就会把所有行的Bonkers都放进去，他们仍然会留在这里。
So people hate Bonkers?
那么人们讨厌疯子吗？
Crevon Scott Yeah.
克雷文·斯科特 是的。
Nobody likes them.
没有人喜欢他们。
Crevon Scott We've still got them.
Crevon Scott：我们还留着它们。
But we've been ordering a whole lot of new stuff, so I've been trying to keep a whole variety of things in here, like Crunch 'n Munch.
但我们已经订购了很多新东西，所以我一直试图把各种各样的东西放在这里，比如 Crunch 'n Munch。
We just got the Crunch 'n Munch, and the Cheez-Its we normally didn't have in here.
我们刚买了 Crunch 'n Munch 和 Cheez-Its，这是我们这里通常没有的。
Cheez-Its?
奶酪？
Crevon Scott Yeah, the Cheeze-Its.
Crevon Scott 是的，Cheeze-Its。
The different kind of Cheez-Its.
不同种类的芝士。
Our enemies, needless to say, are not supplied with Crunch 'n Munch.
不用说，我们的敌人没有得到 Crunch 'n Munch 的供应。
Yes, we're at war, and yes, that means thousands of Americans are in Kandahar and Kabul and other very dangerous places, doing very dangerous things.
是的，我们正处于战争之中，是的，这意味着成千上万的美国人在坎大哈和喀布尔以及其他非常危险的地方，做着非常危险的事情。
But for every person on the front lines, there are dozens backing them up with equipment, logistical support, and Cheez-Its.
但对于前线的每个人来说，都有数十人为他们提供设备、后勤支持和 Cheez-It 的支持。
This aircraft carrier has only 50 or 60 pilots on board who actually drop bombs, who actually take part in combat.
这艘航空母舰上只有50或60名真正投弹、真正参加战斗的飞行员。
Everyone else is here, over 5,000 people, to get them in the air.
其他人（超过 5,000 人）都在这里，将它们送上天空。
Back home, over the last few months, we've heard about the pilots.
回到家乡，在过去的几个月里，我们听说了飞行员的事迹。
We've heard about the people doing more heroic work.
我们听说人们做了更英勇的工作。
But everybody else on this ship is also at war, is also far from home, is also sacrificing something to be here, and we wanted to hear their stories too.
但这艘船上的其他人也都处于战争之中，也远离家乡，也为了来到这里而牺牲了一些东西，我们也想听听他们的故事。
It's one thing to turn your life upside down to go shoot bullets at bad guys.
颠覆你的生活去向坏人开枪是一回事。
It's another to give up everything to go fill candy machines 12 hours a day.
放弃一切去每天12小时去装糖果机是另一回事。
In the months since the USS Stennis embarked for the Arabian Sea, Crevon has only gone outside twice.
自从斯坦尼斯号航母启程前往阿拉伯海以来的几个月里，克雷文只外出过两次。
If you picture for a moment what an aircraft carrier looks like, the deck of the ship, that big, flat deck, is where jets take off and land, so you can't just walk around up there.
如果你想象一下航空母舰的样子，船的甲板，那个大而平坦的甲板，是喷气式飞机起飞和降落的地方，所以你不能只是在那里走动。
She sees daylight maybe once a day.
她也许每天见一次阳光。
She's 20 years old.
她今年20岁了。
It's her first time away from home.
这是她第一次离开家。
You know, the hardest part is just missing home, the home thing.
你知道，最困难的部分就是想家，想家。
If I can get over that, then I'll be all right.
如果我能克服这个，那我就没事了。
When I first got here, I was really bad.
当我第一次来到这里时，我真的很糟糕。
I cried every day, and stuff like that.
我每天都哭，诸如此类。
My parents are really helpful.
我的父母真的很乐于助人。
They email me every day and stuff.
他们每天都会给我发电子邮件之类的。
Today on our program, everyday life aboard a ship at war, what it's really like.
今天我们的节目讲述的是战时船上的日常生活，它到底是什么样的。
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life, distributed by Public Radio International.
这是来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《This American Life》，由国际公共广播电台发行。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Alex and Wendy and I went to the Stennis together, and throughout this hour you'll hear from all three of us.
亚历克斯、温迪和我一起去了斯坦尼斯，在这一个小时里你会听到我们三个人的声音。
We got to the Stennis about six weeks after the ship arrived in the North Arabian Sea.
船抵达北阿拉伯海大约六周后，我们到达了斯坦尼斯号。
The other aircraft carrier on duty there, the Theodore Roosevelt, sends planes during the day, and the Stennis sends them at night.
在那里执勤的另一艘航空母舰西奥多·罗斯福号在白天派出飞机，斯坦尼斯号则在夜间派出飞机。
This means that reveille is called over the ship's PA system to wake everybody up for work at 7:00 PM.
这意味着晚上 7:00，船上的 PA 系统会呼叫起床号，唤醒每个人开始工作。
We expected a bugle, or at least a recording of a bugle, but it turns out to be sort of no frills.
我们期待着军号，或者至少是军号的录音，但事实证明它没什么装饰。
Reveille, reveille, all hands heave out.
起床号，起床号，所有的手都举起来。
From the time we get up, we're led everywhere by a group of public affairs officers, who are, contrary to what you think they might be-- well, contrary to what we suspected they'd be anyway-- good-humored and quite helpful.
从我们起床起，我们到处都有一群公共事务官员带领着我们，他们与你想象的相反——嗯，与我们怀疑的相反——幽默且乐于助人。
Our first day they lead us down a long passageway.
我们第一天他们带我们走过一条长长的通道。
Every 15 feet or so there's a junction, and other hallways go off to the left or right, and ladders go up and down.
每隔 15 英尺左右就有一个交叉路口，其他走廊向左或向右延伸，梯子上下。
It's like walking through a big Habitrail.
这就像走过一条大的Habitrail。
Make a left there.
在那里左转。
Officer 2 Keep going.
警官2 继续。
Remember, the boat is huge.
请记住，船很大。
It's four and 1/2 acres.
占地四又 1/2 英亩。
But most of the life of the ship takes place here, in the eight stories of rooms and passageways below the flight deck.
但这艘船的大部分生命周期都发生在这里，即飞行甲板下方八层的房间和通道中。
There are no windows on these decks, and the boat is so big that in good weather, it doesn't really even sway.
这些甲板上没有窗户，而且船太大了，在天气好的时候，它甚至不会摇晃。
And so most of the time, the sensation is less being at sea than being underground in some sort of huge subterranean warren.
因此，大多数时候，这种感觉与其说是在海上，不如说是在某种巨大的地下巢穴中。
Can I cut through?
我可以切过去吗？
Alex Blumberg You're constantly squeezing by people coming from the other direction.
Alex Blumberg 你经常被来自另一个方向的人挤压。
I'm still awake.
我还醒着。
Alex Blumberg After five minutes of winding our way through these narrow corridors, we come to a big, rounded steel door.
亚历克斯·布隆伯格（Alex Blumberg） 蜿蜒穿过这些狭窄的走廊五分钟后，我们来到了一扇巨大的圆形钢门前。
It's maybe five feet tall, airtight.
它大约有五英尺高，气密。
It's got a big lever in the middle.
中间有一个大杠杆。
Someone turns it, and we climb through into one of the largest rooms we've ever seen.
有人转动了它，我们爬进了我们见过的最大的房间之一。
This is the hangar deck.
这是机库甲板。
It's two football fields long, three stories tall.
它有两个足球场长，三层楼高。
Entering it is like walking through a closet door and finding yourself at the pitcher's mound in the Astrodome.
进入其中就像穿过壁橱门，发现自己身处阿斯特罗多姆体育馆的投手丘。
We walk past parked fighter planes and hundreds of people, all scurrying around, pushing hand trucks, talking into walkie-talkies.
我们走过停放的战斗机和数百人，他们都在四处奔波，推着手推车，对着对讲机说话。
And then we arrive at the hangar bay door, which is basically a three-story hole in the side of the ship.
然后我们到达机库舱门，它基本上是船侧面的一个三层楼的洞。
It's nighttime.
现在是晚上。
Peering out, we can make out the shadowy outline and red running lights of another huge boat traveling at the same speed we are, maybe 100 yards away.
向外望去，我们可以看到另一艘巨船的阴影轮廓和红色行驶灯，它以与我们相同的速度行驶，大约在 100 码之外。
A half dozen steel cables stretch between the two ships.
两艘船之间有六根钢缆。
Helicopters dip and swerve back and forth.
直升机俯冲并来回转向。
And then, out of the darkness, two pallets with hundreds of pounds of food come swinging in on a cable.
然后，从黑暗中，两个装有数百磅食物的托盘通过缆绳摇晃过来。
We just took on two pallets.
我们只拿了两个托盘。
Ira Glass Lieutenant Commander Mark [?
艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass) 中校马克 [?
Semmler ?] explains that they're bringing on enough food for 5,000 people for 30 days, plus machine parts, bundles of food.
Semmler？] 解释说，他们带来了足够 5,000 人 30 天的食物，还有机器零件和成捆的食物。
People pass boxes of fresh pears and strawberries and avocados fired brigade-style.
人们传递着一箱箱的新鲜梨子、草莓和牛油果，就像大队式的。
The entire operation takes over 250 people.
整个行动需要250多人。
I know everyone knows they're at war.
我知道每个人都知道他们正处于战争之中。
In most jobs it doesn't feel like a war.
在大多数工作中，感觉不像一场战争。
Not at all.
一点也不。
We do our job.
我们做好我们的工作。
Female Sailor I know everything that's going on, but I'm still like, OK, we're living on the boat for six months.
女水手 我知道发生的一切，但我仍然想，好吧，我们在船上生活了六个月。
I feel like I'm doing my job the same way, and this is pretty much normal.
我觉得我正在以同样的方式做我的工作，这很正常。
It's not like being on the front lines with an M16 in my hand.
这不像我手里拿着M16在前线。
Do you wish you had a job which put you more in the front lines?
您是否希望自己有一份能够更多地在第一线工作的工作？
No, man, no. Not with my wife and stuff.
不，伙计，不。不是和我的妻子之类的。
No, I'm very happy with what I am.
不，我对自己现在的样子很满意。
Do you feel in danger here?
你觉得这里有危险吗？
Male Sailor No. I mean, the most those guys got is rifles and missiles.
男水手 不。我的意思是，那些家伙最多的是步枪和导弹。
They couldn't fire this far out into the ocean.
他们无法向海里开这么远的距离。
No, actually I feel like this is one of the most secure places you can be.
不，实际上我觉得这是最安全的地方之一。
We've got 70-plus aircraft looking for the enemy.
我们有 70 多架飞机在寻找敌人。
When I'm not on a ship, I feel like it could happen anywhere.
当我不在船上时，我觉得这种事可能发生在任何地方。
Any time you drive over a bridge, or go to a public place, it could happen.
每当你开车过桥或去公共场所时，这种情况都可能发生。
And I definitely feel safer out here.
我在这里确实感觉更安全。
The average age on board the ship is 21 years old, and when you ask people how they ended up here, the most common answer is, I don't know.
船上的平均年龄是 21 岁，当你问人们如何来到这里时，最常见的答案是，我不知道。
They just shrug, and say they were failing out of school, or they wanted to see the world, or they wanted money for college.
他们只是耸耸肩，说他们辍学了，或者他们想看看这个世界，或者他们想要钱上大学。
Almost all the enlistment stories can be summarized as either, I joined the Navy to straighten out my life, or, I joined the Navy because I wanted something more.
几乎所有的入伍故事都可以概括为，要么，我加入海军是为了理顺我的生活，要么，我加入海军是因为我想要更多。
I'm Jessica Phillips.
我是杰西卡·菲利普斯。
I got here six days ago.
我六天前到达这里。
I'm going through training right now.
我现在正在接受训练。
So everything's still a blur.
所以一切还是一片模糊。
I don't even know what day it is.
我什至不知道今天是什么日子。
Wednesday?
周三？
Thursday?
周四？
When I asked Jessica Phillips my question about how she ended up on this ship, she looked up at me and said, do you really want to hear this story?
当我问杰西卡·菲利普斯她是如何登上这艘船的时候，她抬头看着我说，你真的想听这个故事吗？
It all began, she said, two and half years ago, working at the mall in a Barnes & Noble, and living in the same small town where she'd grown up in Ocala, Florida.
她说，这一切都始于两年半前，当时她在巴诺书店的商场工作，住在她长大的佛罗里达州奥卡拉小镇上。
Before I'd never even pay attention to military people.
以前我从来没有关注过军人。
It was so what, you're in the Navy.
事情就是这样，你在海军。
You're a drunken sailor or marine.
你是一个醉酒的水手或海军陆战队员。
People call you bullet sponge.
人们称你为子弹海绵。
Why would you do that?
你为什么要这么做？
I didn't understand why people-- personally for me, I never thought I'd be in the military.
我不明白为什么人们——就我个人而言，我从来没有想过我会参军。
It was a split-second decision.
这是一个瞬间的决定。
The place where I live is considered the black hole.
我住的地方被认为是黑洞。
Nobody gets out of there.
没有人能离开那里。
Most people live and die there, and that's just the way it goes.
大多数人都在那里生活和死亡，事情就是这样。
You grow up with the same people.
你和同样的人一起长大。
Everything stays the same.
一切都保持不变。
I couldn't take it anymore.
我再也受不了了。
So I told my-- I had two girl roommates at the time.
所以我告诉我当时我有两个女室友。
And I looked at them.
我看着他们。
I said, you can have all my stuff.
我说，我的东西你都可以拿走。
I packed up a suitcase, and I was like, I'm leaving, and I left that night.
我收拾好行李箱，然后我想，我要走了，那天晚上我就离开了。
And I left them money for that month's rent and everything.
我给他们留下了当月的房租和一切费用。
Look, you need to find a new roommate.
听着，你需要找一个新室友。
I get in my car, which was an '89 Mustang, and just putter away.
我坐进我的车，那是一辆 89 年的野马，然后就开走了。
Jessica had no idea where she was headed.
杰西卡不知道自己要去哪里。
There were vague thoughts of finding someplace cool and applying to college.
当时有一些模糊的想法，想找个很酷的地方并申请大学。
She made her way up the coast to Raleigh, North Carolina.
她沿着海岸前往北卡罗来纳州罗利。
Jessica ended up stopping in Raleigh, moving in with friends.
杰西卡最终在罗利停留，搬去和朋友住在一起。
But without a job, she had to find other ways to make ends meet.
但由于没有工作，她不得不寻找其他方法来维持生计。
I used to go gas station to gas station, and ask people for money pretty much.
我以前经常去一个加油站，向人们要钱。
I would be like listen, I'm on a road trip.
我想听着，我正在公路旅行。
Most people hand me money, $5 or something.
大多数人都会给我钱，5 美元什么的。
But you can only do that for so long.
但你只能这样做这么长时间。
So I was just sitting there, and I was trying to figure out what I did this for, first of all.
所以我只是坐在那里，首先想弄清楚我这样做的目的是什么。
I gave up all my stuff.
我放弃了我所有的东西。
I'm almost broke.
我几乎破产了。
I was just like, I need to figure out what I need to do.
我当时想，我需要弄清楚我需要做什么。
I need to do something with myself.
我需要为自己做点什么。
We were having a party, and everybody was partying, and I'm sitting outside.
我们正在举办一个聚会，每个人都在聚会，而我坐在外面。
And some guy comes up to talk to me, and he said something about what are you doing tomorrow?
有一个人走过来跟我说话，他说你明天要做什么？
And I said, I'm going to go home and join the Navy.
我说，我要回家加入海军。
And he was like, what?
他说，什么？
He was just like, what are you talking about?
他只是说，你在说什么？
I was like, I think I'm going to pack up, and go home and join the Navy.
我当时想，我想我要收拾行李回家，加入海军。
I was like, this is what I need to do.
我当时想，这就是我需要做的。
Why did the Navy pop into your head?
为什么海军会突然出现在你的脑海里？
Why Navy?
为什么是海军？
I have no idea.
我不知道。
I think my manager at Barnes & Noble was in the Navy for two years.
我想我在巴诺书店的经理在海军服役了两年。
She was a yeoman, but that was like 20 years ago.
她是一名自耕农，但那已经是二十年前的事了。
And that kind of like came back to me.
我又想起了那种感觉。
And I think-- this sounds so cheesy though, but it was like a Navy commercial came on in between television or something.
我认为——虽然这听起来很俗气，但这就像电视或其他节目之间插播的海军广告一样。
It's the one where they say that the sea is our classroom.
人们说，大海是我们的教室。
They use the intro to some hard core rock song.
他们使用一些硬核摇滚歌曲的前奏。
I think it's a Limp Bizkit song.
我认为这是一首 Limp Bizkit 的歌曲。
Maybe not.
也许不是。
Maybe it's a Godsmack.
或许这就是天意吧。
I don't know, but there's the carrier, and it's racing across, and they've got the jets flying over, and they got the people all smiling in their nice uniforms, and sitting in class doing their schoolwork, and the people who are sitting in front of the radar and looking at the picture.
我不知道，但是航母正在飞驰而过，他们让喷气式飞机飞过，人们都穿着漂亮的制服微笑，坐在课堂上做功课，还有坐在雷达前看照片的人们。
And then they're like, most people go to school, but this is our classroom.
然后他们就会说，大多数人都去上学，但这是我们的教室。
And then it says gonavy.com.
然后它说 gonavy.com。
So then I was like, hey, maybe I will.
然后我就想，嘿，也许我会的。
From the time you told that guy at the party you were going to join the Navy to the time you were in the Navy, how many days passed?
从你在聚会上告诉那个人你要加入海军到你加入海军，一共过去了多少天？
Six.
六。
Five.
五。
That was a Friday, and that Wednesday I was in boot camp.
那是星期五，星期三我在新兵训练营。
When I got back, I actually got a copy of the commercial from the Navy.
当我回来时，我实际上收到了一份来自海军的广告副本。
The entire thing takes 15 seconds, and Jessica's memory of it is pretty much perfect.
整个过程持续了15秒，杰西卡的记忆力几乎是完美的。
Why should you consider getting an education in the Navy?
为什么您应该考虑在海军接受教育？
This is one of your classrooms.
这是你们的一间教室。
Navy, accelerate your life.
海军，加速你的生活。
And how is it for you?
你觉得怎么样？
Once you were in boot camp, did you have second thoughts?
当你进入新兵训练营后，你有没有重新考虑过？
Did I ever have second thoughts.
我有没有想过。
When you first get on the bus, it's a whole nice trip.
当你第一次登上巴士时，这真是一次愉快的旅行。
Everybody's polite to you, everything else.
每个人都对你有礼貌，其他一切。
Then you get on the bus, and you're sitting there.
然后你上了公共汽车，然后你就坐在那里。
Some guy gets on the bus, and tells you you're not home anymore and starts yelling.
有些人上了公交车，告诉你你不在家了，然后开始大喊大叫。
It's the basic boot camp thing.
这是基本的训练营事情。
I'm not your mama or your papa.
我不是你的妈妈或你的爸爸。
Stop talking.
别说话了。
I don't want to hear it.
我不想听。
So I was just like, OK, they're just trying to scare me.
所以我就想，好吧，他们只是想吓唬我。
Whatever.
任何。
I'm sitting there laughing.
我坐在那里笑。
I'm like, God, this is such a movie.
我想，天啊，这真是一部电影。
I was like, how stereotypical is this?
我当时想，这有多刻板？
So they bus us to the Navy boot camp in Great Lakes.
所以他们用巴士把我们送到五大湖的海军新兵训练营。
And we get off the bus, and it's the middle of the night.
我们一下车，已经是半夜了。
It's cold, and they're yelling at you to stand against the wall, and why can't you stand still, and everything else.
天冷了，他们喊你靠墙站，为什么你不能站着不动，等等。
And when I call your name, yell out your social.
当我叫你的名字时，大声喊出你的社交。
And they yell out my name, and I'm standing there yelling my social security number.
他们喊出我的名字，我站在那里喊着我的社会安全号码。
They're telling me I'm not doing it loud enough.
他们告诉我，我做得不够大声。
And I'm thinking, what did I do?
我在想，我做了什么？
What am I doing here?
我在这里做什么？
It's 5:00.
现在是 5:00。
Gosh, this day is so clear.
天哪，这一天真是晴朗啊。
It's 5:00 in the morning.
现在是早上 5:00。
And you're looking at a stranger, and you understand everything they're feeling.
你看着一个陌生人，你理解他们的一切感受。
That was one of the few moments where you look at somebody, and you're like, I know exactly what you're thinking.
那是你看着某人的少数时刻之一，你会说，我完全知道你在想什么。
And I know what you're feeling, because I do too.
我知道你的感受，因为我也知道。
It got better, of course, and Jessica was satisfied with the Navy.
当然，情况变得更好了，杰西卡对海军感到满意。
At 22, she says, she's been to countries and seen things she never would have otherwise.
她说，22 岁时，她去过很多国家，见过一些原本不会看到的东西。
But her feelings about the Navy became even stronger after September 11.
但9月11日之后，她对海军的感情变得更加强烈。
As far as September 11, a personal reflection of what it does: you become a little bit more patriotic.
就9月11日而言，个人的反思是：你变得更加爱国了一点。
Before it was kind of like, maybe, ah, I'm in it.
之前有点像，也许，啊，我在其中。
It's a job.
这是一份工作。
I do my eight hours a day, and then I'm done.
我每天工作八小时，然后就完成了。
I'll be able to get my college money.
我就能拿到大学学费了
If you had asked me before as a civilian, I'd have been like, oh, war.
如果你以前以平民的身份问我，我会说，哦，战争。
Make love, not war.
做爱，而不是战争。
Let's go for the hippie side of it.
让我们来看看嬉皮士的一面吧。
But now it's just kind of like, I want to cry.
但现在我有点想哭。
I'm tired, so I'm going to start crying.
我累了，所以我要开始哭泣。
But I look at my family, and it's just like, I'm willing to die for these people on the street, the people you're walking by.
但我看着我的家人，就好像，我愿意为街上的这些人，为你走过的人而死。
I'm willing to give, sacrifice myself for what has happened.
我愿意为所发生的事情付出、牺牲自己。
I don't even know how to correctly say it, but when you realize that you're really fighting for something and for somebody, it kind of gets more personal.
我什至不知道如何正确地说出来，但是当你意识到你真的在为某事、为某人而奋斗时，它就会变得更加个人化。
Almost everyone we talked to said some version of this, even people who happened to be doing jobs they hated.
几乎所有与我们交谈过的人都说过类似的话，甚至包括那些碰巧从事着他们讨厌的工作的人。
They all felt proud to be out there defending their country.
他们都为能够保卫自己的国家而感到自豪。
And sometimes while they would talk about it, an almost startled tone would creep into their voices, as if they were as surprised as anyone that this crappy job felt so different than all the other ones they'd ever done.
有时，当他们谈论这件事时，他们的声音中会渗透出一种近乎惊讶的语气，就好像他们和其他人一样惊讶于这项蹩脚的工作与他们曾经做过的所有其他工作感觉如此不同。
They felt they were doing something that mattered.
他们觉得自己正在做一些重要的事情。
To give you a sense of the variety of things going on at any given moment on board the Stennis, here's what we passed walking down just one hallway.
为了让您了解斯坦尼斯号上任何特定时刻发生的各种事情，以下是我们沿着一条走廊走过的情况。
On O3 deck was Senior Chief Barbara Mendoza, an electronics repair shop, a room in charge of anti-submarine warfare, an air traffic control center, a conference room that they actually call the war room, the office of the admiral who's in charge of this ship and the six other ships and two nuclear-powered subs which travel with it at all times, protecting it.
O3甲板上有高级主管芭芭拉·门多萨（Barbara Mendoza）、一个电子维修店、一个负责反潜战的房间、一个空中交通管制中心、一个他们实际上称为作战室的会议室、负责这艘船和其他六艘船以及始终与它一起航行的两艘核动力潜艇的海军上将办公室。
Intelligence.
智力。
They're not really that intelligent.
他们其实并没有那么聪明。
No, they are.
不，他们是。
And this is the air wing commander's office.
这是空军联队指挥官办公室。
Toward the back of the boat, some corridors have red lights on instead of white, indicating people are asleep.
在船的后面，一些走廊亮着红灯而不是白灯，表明人们正在睡觉。
We pass a guy playing Nintendo.
我们经过一个玩任天堂的人。
Video games of all sorts are huge on the Stennis in off-hours.
业余时间，斯坦尼斯上的各种电子游戏都很热闹。
A guy runs past us with a bloody nose.
一个人从我们身边跑过，鼻子流着血。
We never find out the story behind that.
我们永远不知道这背后的故事。
There's a workout room, and next to it a locked door that music's blaring out of.
这里有一间健身室，旁边有一扇锁着的门，里面传来刺耳的音乐声。
Barbara raps on the door.
芭芭拉敲门。
[KNOCKING] They're not going to be able to hear me.
[敲门声]他们听不到我的声音。
On the door is a sign-up sheet for bands who can use the room as a rehearsal space.
门上有一张乐队报名表，可以使用这个房间作为排练空间。
There are lots of bands on board.
船上有很多乐队。
This one's called Recoil.
这个叫反冲。
You feel the door is just echoing.
你感觉门只是回声。
It's just vibrating.
它只是在振动。
[KNOCKING]
[敲门声]
The guys in Recoil work on planes or on the flight deck.
Recoil 的员工在飞机上或飞行甲板上工作。
It can be hard to work out their schedule so they're all free to rehearse at the same time.
制定他们的时间表可能很困难，所以他们都可以同时自由排练。
So where do you draw your inspiration from?
那么你从哪里汲取灵感呢？
A lot of stuff.
很多东西。
That song comes from my ex-wife.
这首歌是我前妻唱的。
I recently got divorced, and it came out of nowhere.
我最近离婚了，这一切都是无缘无故的。
I got blindsided.
我措手不及。
So I draw on my personal experiences.
所以我借鉴了我的个人经历。
We've performed at the Steel Beach Picnic a couple days ago.
几天前我们在钢铁海滩野餐会上表演过。
Where's that?
那是哪里？
Musician Up on the flight deck.
音乐家在飞行甲板上。
Every holiday, like Christmas, they have bands performing in the mess decks, or in the hangar bay.
每个假期，例如圣诞节，他们都会有乐队在餐厅甲板或机库海湾表演。
They're going to have a Super Bowl halftime show.
他们将有一场超级碗中场表演。
We're going to play in the hangar bay.
我们要去机库湾玩。
The Super Bowl is sort of tricky for an aircraft carrier.
超级碗对于航空母舰来说有点棘手。
They scheduled a day off from flying, but the quality of the ship's satellite TV reception depends on which direction they're heading, so the plan was this: at the start of the game they would set course in the most TV-friendly direction at the slowest possible speed.
他们安排了一天的飞行休息时间，但船上卫星电视接收的质量取决于他们前进的方向，所以计划是这样的：在比赛开始时，他们将以尽可能慢的速度朝着最适合电视的方向行驶。
When they got to halftime, they would turn a 97,000-ton ship around, and then chug back as fast as possible to where they began, while Recoil and other bands played.
到了中场休息时，他们会调转一艘 97,000 吨重的船，然后以尽可能快的速度回到出发的地方，同时 Recoil 和其他乐队也在演奏。
And then, when the game started again, they would set out again in that first TV-friendly heading at the slowest possible speed.
然后，当比赛再次开始时，他们会以最慢的速度再次出发，进入第一个电视友好的航向。
It's now just a few hours since we saw the resupply operation.
距离我们看到补给行动已经过去了几个小时。
We're in the ship's library.
我们在船上的图书馆。
It's 11:30 at night.
现在是晚上 11 点 30 分。
Summer Anderson is on a schedule where her work shift just ended.
萨默·安德森的工作日程刚刚结束。
But before she goes to sleep, she comes here and waits in line for a half hour to go into one of the computers, where she can do email.
但在睡觉之前，她来到这里，排队半个小时，才进入其中一台电脑，在那里她可以处理电子邮件。
While she waits, I ask her about her job, which involves moving airplanes around from one spot to another, but she cuts us off.
当她等待时，我问她有关她的工作，其中包括将飞机从一个地点移动到另一个地点，但她打断了我们的谈话。
You want to talk about something interesting?
你想谈谈一些有趣的事情吗？
Sure, let's talk about something interesting.
当然，我们来谈谈一些有趣的事情。
My job's not interesting.
我的工作并不有趣。
No, it's tedious.
不，这很乏味。
What are you liking about being on board?
您喜欢船上的哪些方面？
I actually love the Navy.
其实我很喜欢海军。
I don't like my job per se, but I love the whole military.
我本身不喜欢我的工作，但我热爱整个军队。
I like the lifestyle.
我喜欢这种生活方式。
Which part of the lifestyle?
生活方式的哪一部分？
Summer Anderson It becomes kind of like a big family.
萨默·安德森（Summer Anderson） 它变得有点像一个大家庭。
You all live together.
你们都住在一起。
You all dress, and talk, and eat the same exact things.
你们的穿着、说话、吃的东西都一模一样。
We shower in the same exact showers.
我们在完全相同的淋浴间淋浴。
It becomes like a culture.
它变得像一种文化。
Summer's friend Melissa walks into the library.
萨默的朋友梅丽莎走进图书馆。
She's older than Summer, 25-- Summer's just 19-- and is here to write email back home.
她比 Summer 年长，25 岁——Summer 才 19 岁——来这里是为了回家写电子邮件。
Well, I'm a single mom.
嗯，我是一个单亲妈妈。
For my son's kindergarten class he has to email me, so that's why I stay up for that extra hour after work to read them.
对于我儿子的幼儿园课程，他必须给我发电子邮件，所以这就是为什么我下班后还要熬夜阅读它们。
I'd assumed that Summer would also be writing to people back home.
我以为萨默也会写信给家乡的人。
She tells me no. She's writing to friends on the ship.
她告诉我不。她正在给船上的朋友写信。
It's the only way to keep up with people, she says.
她说，这是跟上人们步伐的唯一方法。
Everybody works different hours, and there's a lot to keep up with.
每个人的工作时间都不同，而且有很多事情需要跟上。
That's the other thing about the ship.
这就是这艘船的另一件事。
Rumors just fly.
谣言满天飞。
It's amazing.
太棒了。
I found out the other day that I liked somebody I never even met.
有一天我发现我喜欢上了一个我从未见过的人。
Rumors are amazing on a ship, because people get bored.
船上的谣言很惊人，因为人们会感到无聊。
I don't gossip.
我不八卦。
And it just goes way out of proportion.
这完全不成比例。
It's really actually kind of funny.
这真的很有趣。
Most of the rumors on board have to do when they're going to get to go to shore.
船上的大部分谣言都与他们即将上岸时有关。
These circulate constantly.
这些不断循环。
The second biggest subject?
第二大主题？
You know, other people.
你知道，其他人。
It's kind of like high school sometimes.
有时有点像高中。
Yeah, it's like a small town in the outskirts of nowhere.
是的，它就像一个偏远郊区的小镇。
You know, how everybody knows everything about everybody.
你知道，每个人如何了解每个人的一切。
You can walk up to someone, look at their name tag, and be like, oh, that's who they were talking about.
你可以走到某人面前，看看他们的名牌，然后说，哦，这就是他们正在谈论的人。
OK.
好的。
This conversation about rumors ends up getting Alex and Wendy and I in a little bit of trouble, mostly because of me.
这场关于谣言的谈话最终给亚历克斯、温迪和我带来了一点麻烦，主要是因为我。
I find the entire subject so interesting that I bring it up the next place we visit, the ship's laundry.
我发现整个主题非常有趣，因此我在我们参观的下一个地方（船上的洗衣房）中提到了它。
I'm having what I think is a perfectly innocent conversation with an airman named Jason [?
我正在与一位名叫杰森的飞行员进行一次我认为完全无辜的对话[？
Bess.
贝丝。
?] His regular job is to work on high-tech aviation electronics, but the way the Navy works is that when you first report to a ship, you do 90 days at one of the jobs that nobody signs up for when they join the Navy, that the Navy has to have someone do, or you can't actually run a navy-- cleaning, serving food, and doing laundry, thousands of pounds a day of laundry, stacked in bags to the ceiling.
？]他的常规工作是研究高科技航空电子设备，但海军的工作方式是，当你第一次向一艘舰艇报到时，你会做一项90天的工作，这些工作在加入海军时没有人报名参加，海军必须有人做，否则你就无法真正管理一支海军——打扫卫生、提供食物和洗衣服，每天要洗几千英镑的衣服，装在袋子里一直堆到天花板。
Right now I'm opening the dryer.
现在我正在打开烘干机。
This dryer holds about 100 pounds of laundry.
该烘干机可容纳约 100 磅的衣物。
Jason, it turns out, actually doesn't mind his 90 days doing wash.
事实证明，杰森实际上并不介意自己在 90 天里洗衣服。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I really like laundry, actually.
其实我真的很喜欢洗衣服。
Oh yeah?
哦，是吗？
Jason Yeah.
杰森 是的。
I feel good.
我感觉很好。
It's just washing laundry.
这只是洗衣服而已。
My regular job is really complicated, and sometimes I have a hard time comprehending all the electronical systems, and memorizing all the different systems, and the start-ups and all that.
我的日常工作真的很复杂，有时我很难理解所有的电子系统，记住所有不同的系统，以及初创公司等等。
And laundry was a good break, because it's really simple.
洗衣服是一种很好的休息方式，因为它真的很简单。
Here all you do is you just throw it in the washer, take it out of the wash, put it in the dryer.
您所要做的就是将其扔进洗衣机，从洗衣机中取出，然后放入烘干机中。
And there's not too much complication.
而且没有太多的复杂性。
And then, at the end of this perfectly nice conversation, I bring up the new thing that I'd learned just minutes before in the library.
然后，在这次完美的谈话结束时，我提出了我几分钟前在图书馆学到的新东西。
I've heard there's a lot of rumors on board a ship, like there's always rumors.
我听说船上有很多谣言，就像总是有谣言一样。
What are some of the rumors that you've heard?
你听过哪些谣言？
Oh, you always hear rumors about when we're going to pull in, when we're not going to pull in, when we're going to see a port.
哦，你总是听到关于我们什么时候靠岸、什么时候不靠岸、什么时候我们要看到港口的谣言。
And a lot of rumors about when we're going home, because some people say we're going to stay longer.
还有很多关于我们什么时候回家的谣言，因为有些人说我们会待更长时间。
Some people say we may leave earlier.
有人说我们可以早点出发。
Rumors about like what ports that we're going to hit on the way back, because everybody wants to go to Australia.
有传言说我们回程时会经过哪些港口，因为每个人都想去澳大利亚。
And of course you hear rumors about different girls and different guys sleeping together, and people getting in trouble and getting caught for that.
当然，你也会听到关于不同的女孩和不同的男人睡在一起的谣言，以及人们因此陷入麻烦并被抓的谣言。
You get in a lot of trouble.
你会遇到很多麻烦。
You're not allowed to have any fraternization on the ship.
船上不准有任何交友行为。
That's another thing that's kind of rough.
这是另一件事，有点粗糙。
I haven't had much physical contact in a long time.
我已经很久没有太多的身体接触了。
Even just a hug every now and then, you're not really supposed to do that in uniform, and you're always in uniform.
即使只是时不时地拥抱一下，你也不应该穿着制服这样做，而且你总是穿着制服。
I miss affection a lot.
我非常想念亲情。
I do.
我愿意。
I grew up in a very affectionate home, and I'd like to just get a hug every now and then.
我在一个非常温馨的家庭长大，我时不时地想要得到一个拥抱。
Jason tells me another rumor or two he's heard, we say goodbye, and Wendy and Alex and I go down to get some food.
杰森告诉我他听到的另外一两个谣言，我们道别，温迪、亚历克斯和我下去买些食物。
Perhaps 15 minutes later, one of the public affairs officers informs me that Jason and I had been overheard talking about rumors on the Stennis, rumors about men and women sleeping together on board, and that within minutes this had been reported up the ranks, all the way to the ship's executive officer, the person who oversees the day to day operations of the Stennis.
大约 15 分钟后，一名公共事务官员告诉我，杰森和我被无意中听到谈论斯坦尼斯号上的谣言，关于男人和女人在船上睡在一起的谣言，几分钟之内，这件事就被向上级报告，一直报告给船上的执行官，即负责监督斯坦尼斯号日常运营的人。
People were upset.
人们很沮丧。
What sort of story were we putting together anyway?
无论如何，我们正在编排什么样的故事？
I won't bore you with the details of several rather tense conversations.
我不会用几个相当紧张的谈话的细节来烦你。
Let's just say that we had inadvertently hit a nerve.
这么说吧，我们不经意间触动了神经。
It's been just eight years since women were first deployed on to combat ships and aircraft carriers, and just 10 years since the Navy was forced to rethink how women were treated in the service in the wake of the Tailhook scandal.
距离首次将女性部署到战斗舰艇和航空母舰上才过去了八年，距离海军因“尾钩”丑闻而被迫重新思考女性在服役中的待遇也仅仅过去了十年。
This is all still enormously sensitive, sensitive enough that this conversation in the laundry was enough to raise red flags up and down the chain of command.
这一切仍然非常敏感，足够敏感，以至于洗衣房里的谈话足以在指挥链上上下下发出危险信号。
At some point, we're brought in without our tape recorders to meet the ship's executive officer, a friendly but tightly-wound man named Jeff Miller.
在某个时刻，我们在没有录音机的情况下被带去见船的执行官，一个友善但紧张的人，名叫杰夫·米勒。
And he explains that when new crew members arrive for duty on the Stennis, he personally gives the speech reiterating Navy policy on male-female relationships, a policy he sums up for them as no dating.
他解释说，当新船员到达斯坦尼斯号上值班时，他亲自发表演讲，重申海军关于男女关系的政策，他为他们总结的政策是禁止约会。
A date, he tells them, is as simple as two people walking side by side closely, heads leaning together and talking.
他告诉他们，约会就像两个人并肩走、头靠在一起说话一样简单。
A date is when you sit too near each other.
约会是指你们坐得太近。
You should be a minimum, he tells them, of two butt-widths apart.
他告诉他们，你们之间的距离至少应该是两个屁股的宽度。
When he spots crew members sitting closer than that, he'll ask them if it's a date, and when of course they say no, he'll tell them, well then make sure it doesn't look like a date.
当他发现船员坐得比那近时，他会问他们是否是约会，当他们当然说不是时，他会告诉他们，然后确保这看起来不像约会。
Which all seems sensible enough.
这一切似乎都很合理。
This is a workplace, like any other, and you can't sleep with people you work with.
这是一个工作场所，和其他任何地方一样，你不能和同事一起睡觉。
But consider what the Navy is up against in trying to make this policy work.
但请考虑一下海军在努力使这一政策发挥作用时遇到的困难。
12% of the crew on the Stennis is female.
斯坦尼斯号上 12% 的船员是女性。
The average age on board, as we said, is 21 years old.
正如我们所说，船上的平均年龄是 21 岁。
That is thousands of young people cooped up together in a close space for months at a time far from home.
成千上万的年轻人在远离家乡的狭小空间里呆了几个月。
Trying to keep people from having sex with each other in that situation is in a sense fighting nature itself.
在这种情况下试图阻止人们发生性关系在某种意义上是与自然本身作斗争。
In any case, after that incident the public affairs officers felt that it was necessary to monitor our interviews a little more closely.
无论如何，在那次事件发生后，公共事务官员认为有必要更密切地监控我们的采访。
Lieutenant Jeff Gorell, one of these very smart, very capable people saddled with the thankless job of escorting us around the ship, a job which the lieutenant compared to herding cats, was with me on the mess deck not long after all this came to pass.
杰夫·戈雷尔中尉是这些非常聪明、非常有能力的人之一，他肩负着护送我们在船上巡游的吃力不讨好的工作，中尉将这项工作比作放猫，在这一切发生后不久，他就和我一起在食堂甲板上。
We had some time to kill, and I saw a group of talkative young sailors who looked like they might be talkative interviewees.
我们有一些时间可以消磨，我看到一群健谈的年轻水手，他们看起来像是健谈的受访者。
I asked Lieutenant Gorell if it will be OK to talk with them, but worried about their big mouths, he steered me instead to a serious-looking sailor named Kevin [?
我问戈雷尔中尉是否可以与他们交谈，但担心他们的大嘴，他带我去找一位名叫凯文的严肃的水手[？
Wrenn.
雷恩。
?] This turned out to be a mistake for poor Lieutenant Gorell.
？]这对可怜的戈雷尔中尉来说是一个错误。
I'm just ready to go home.
我正准备回家。
I don't know what it's about.
我不知道它是关于什么的。
A court order.
法院命令。
Ira Glass Really, court-ordered?
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：真的，是法庭命令的吗？
Yeah, that's how they do it in Texas.
是的，德克萨斯州的人就是这样做的。
Instead of you going to jail, they send you to the armed service.
他们不会把你送进监狱，而是把你送到武装部队。
So that's how--
所以就是这样——
They gave you the choice of jail or the Navy?
他们让你选择监狱还是海军？
Yeah, or the armed service, any armed service.
是的，或者武装部队，任何武装部队。
You don't have to tell me the answer to this, but what kind of trouble were you in?
你不必告诉我答案，但你遇到了什么样的麻烦？
Yeah.
是的。
Ira Glass How much jail would you have had to do?
艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass) 你会被关多少牢狱之灾？
Seven years.
七年了。
Ira Glass So how do you like it?
Ira Glass 那么你觉得它怎么样？
It sucks.
太糟糕了。
It's like a prison on water.
这就像一座水上监狱。
That's what it is.
就是这样。
I don't really like it.
我真的不喜欢它。
This was not, of course, what Lieutenant Gorell was hoping for from young Kevin.
当然，这并不是戈雷尔中尉对年轻凯文的期望。
I asked, hoping to turn things to a more positive area, if Kevin is changing.
我问，希望凯文是否有所改变，让事情变得更积极。
If people grow when the courts send them out here.
如果当法院把他们送到这里时人们就会成长。
No, because people get flown off the ship almost every month for doing drugs and all kinds of stuff.
不，因为几乎每个月都有人因为吸毒和做各种事情而被赶下船。
So no, it's whatever you got inside of you.
所以不，这就是你内心的一切。
That's what's going to change you.
这就是会改变你的。
If you don't want to be changed, you ain't going to be changed.
如果你不想被改变，你就不会被改变。
I could practically hear the acid eating away at Lieutenant Gorell's stomach at this answer.
听到这个答案，我几乎能听到戈雷尔中尉胃里的酸液在侵蚀。
I wracked my brain for the most completely neutral question I can ask.
我绞尽脑汁想出了我能问的最中立的问题。
So what do you do on your job?
那么你的工作是做什么的呢？
Like what is there to do?
比如有什么可做的？
You just walk around all day.
你整天就这样到处走走。
For eight hours you walk around and check spaces.
在八个小时的时间里，你四处走动并检查空间。
Just people having sex, fights, anybody drinking, doing stuff they ain't supposed to do on the boat.
只是人们发生性行为、打架、喝酒、做不应该在船上做的事情。
Hopefully we'll get to see, but I haven't seen anything yet.
希望我们能看到，但我还没有看到任何东西。
I glance over and catch the expression on the lieutenant's face.
我瞥了一眼，看到了中尉脸上的表情。
It's actually like people are pretty well behaved on this boat.
事实上，这艘船上的人们表现得很好。
No, that's not true.
不，那不是真的。
That's not true.
那不是真的。
I don't know who told you that, but this boat is like a love boat right now.
我不知道是谁告诉你的，但这艘船现在就像一艘爱情之船。
All right, you're done.
好吧，你完成了。
If anyone ever asks you to do an interview again, say no.
如果有人要求你再次接受采访，请拒绝。
This is what Lieutenant Gorell has to deal with all day long in the service of his country.
这就是戈雷尔中尉为国家服务而整天必须面对的问题。
As for the love boat aspect of living on the Stennis, a number of men and women both pointed out, with the incredibly long work hours, who has the energy?
至于在斯坦尼斯号上生活的爱情之船方面，一些男人和女人都指出，工作时间长得令人难以置信，谁有精力呢？
By this point, perhaps you've noticed that everyone you've heard so far this hour sounds very, very young.
至此，也许您已经注意到这一小时到目前为止您所听到的每个人听起来都非常非常年轻。
One of the most amazing things about the Navy, and the military in general, is that it takes people who are so young, and then gets them to operate something as huge and complicated as the Stennis.
海军和整个军队最令人惊奇的事情之一是，它需要如此年轻的人，然后让他们操作像斯坦尼斯这样庞大而复杂的东西。
When I get a chance to visit the bridge and interview the captain of the Stennis, James McDonell, he makes clear that he is intensely aware of the youth of his crew.
当我有机会参观舰桥并采访斯坦尼斯号的船长詹姆斯·麦克唐纳（James McDonell）时，他明确表示，他非常了解船员的年轻化程度。
When he walks through the decks, they tend to chat him up, but on a very narrow range of "are we there yet" questions.
当他走过甲板时，他们往往会和他聊天，但范围很窄，比如“我们到了吗”的问题。
When are we going home?
我们什么时候回家？
When is the end of cruise?
游轮之旅什么时候结束？
What are we going to do after we get back from cruise?
游轮回来后我们要做什么？
Oh, several hundred times a day.
哦，一天几百次。
So, literally, I walk around this ship, and I see the sailors, and I have to come up with a little shtick to make sure that I portray it correctly.
所以，从字面上看，我在这艘船上走来走去，看到了水手，我必须想出一个小技巧来确保我正确地描绘它。
It's not very satisfying to just say, we don't know.
仅仅说“我们不知道”并不是很令人满意。
Although that's the truth, we don't know.
虽然这是事实，但我们不知道。
Another thing Captain McDonell is very aware of is the need to keep everybody in touch with how they are contributing to the overall war effort.
麦克唐纳上尉非常清楚的另一件事是需要让每个人都了解他们如何为整体战争做出贡献。
Every single day, he gets on the ship's PA system and reviews any international news that might have consequences for the Stennis.
每天，他都会打开船上的广播系统，查看任何可能对斯坦尼斯号产生影响的国际新闻。
Just to kind of keep the crew connected, I just like to make sure that they keep focused on why we're out here.
为了让工作人员保持联系，我只是想确保他们继续关注我们来这里的原因。
It's very easy, as I'm sure you've probably seen, to start letting your mind drift about other things other than the task at hand.
我相信您可能已经看到，很容易开始让您的思绪转移到手头任务以外的其他事情上。
When I have young folks up here-- I have the sailors of the day up here every day, one from the air wing and one from the ship.
当我这里有年轻人时，我每天都会有当时的水手，一名来自空军，一名来自舰艇。
The interesting thing is that I will ask them just kind of, hey, do you know who the Secretary of State is?
有趣的是，我会问他们，嘿，你知道国务卿是谁吗？
And that's about a one in three get it right.
大约有三分之一的人能做对。
Do you know who the Secretary of Defense is?
你知道国防部长是谁吗？
And maybe a little higher percentage, but not much more, because they're so focused on their world that it really kind of is our job to help them break out of that a little bit, and put their very hard work in the context of the big mosaic that's going on.
也许比例会高一点，但也不会多太多，因为他们如此专注于自己的世界，我们的工作就是帮助他们摆脱困境，并将他们的辛勤工作放在正在发生的大马赛克的背景下。
A few hours later, we stood in a passageway and listened to the captain's daily message.
几个小时后，我们站在通道里听着船长的每日通报。
Aboard USS John C.
登上约翰·C.
Stennis, good day, this is the captain.
斯坦尼斯，美好的一天，这是队长。
Day 35 of combat operations over Afghanistan.
阿富汗上空作战行动第 35 天。
This is an incredibly uncertain time for all of us aboard.
对于我们船上的所有人来说，这是一个极其不确定的时期。
The war on global terrorism, tensions between India and Pakistan, separate warnings from the President of the United States to Iran and Iraq--
打击全球恐怖主义的战争、印度和巴基斯坦之间的紧张局势、美国总统对伊朗和伊拉克的分别警告——
But it's the PA announcements which give you an even deeper sense of who the crew is, and what it means to supervise a shipload of young people, announcements like this one from the ship's executive officer, Jeff Miller.
但正是 PA 的公告让你更深入地了解了船员是谁，以及监督一船年轻人意味着什么，就像船上执行官杰夫·米勒 (Jeff Miller) 发布的这样的公告。
The real topic I need to talk about right now is fresh water.
我现在需要谈论的真正话题是淡水。
For some reasons we're not completely sure of, we've gotten ourselves in a little bit of a bind with the amount of fresh water we have on board.
由于某些我们不完全确定的原因，我们对船上的淡水数量感到有点困惑。
I'm going--
我要去——
He's upbeat.
他很乐观。
He thanks them for their hard work on the problem.
他感谢他们为解决这个问题所做的辛勤工作。
He urges them on to more.
他敦促他们采取更多行动。
The tone is like a great high school football coach.
语气就像一位伟大的高中橄榄球教练。
So here's what I need you to do, and I need all 5,000 of us to work on this one today.
这就是我需要你们做的事情，我需要我们 5,000 人今天共同努力完成这一任务。
We need to make sure that we're taking short Navy showers.
我们需要确保我们正在进行短暂的海军淋浴。
That's a little redundant.
这有点多余。
Every Navy shower is supposed to be short.
每次海军阵雨都应该很短。
We expect the water to run for no more than two minutes.
我们预计水流的时间不会超过两分钟。
So the trick is, turn the water on, get wet, turn the water off, soap up, turn the water on, rinse off, turn the water back off again.
所以诀窍是，打开水，弄湿，关闭水，涂肥皂，打开水，冲洗，再次关闭水。
If you're taking a Hollywood shower right now, you're going to hurt the ship.
如果你现在正在洗好莱坞淋浴，你就会伤害到这艘船。
Right now, for the next 10 to 12 hours, if we can turn this around and start to build up our water reserves, we can avoid--
现在，在接下来的 10 到 12 小时内，如果我们能够扭转局面并开始建立水储备，我们就可以避免——
Coming up, what it's like to drop a bomb on Afghanistan.
接下来，向阿富汗投下一颗炸弹是什么感觉。
In a minute, from Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International, when our program continues.
稍后，芝加哥公共广播电台和国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
This week, with tens of thousands of Marines and sailors, infantry divisions, and fighter wings, and National Guardsmen deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere in the war on terror, we're re-broadcasting our program from early 2002, when This American Life producers Alex Blumberg, Wendy Dorr, and I visited the USS John C.
本周，随着数以万计的海军陆战队员和水兵、步兵师、战斗机联队以及国民警卫队部署在伊拉克、阿富汗和其他反恐战争中，我们将重播 2002 年初的节目，当时《美国生活》的制片人亚历克斯·布隆伯格、温迪·多尔和我参观了约翰·C·肯尼迪号航空母舰。
Stennis , an aircraft carrier that at the time was cruising somewhere in the Arabian Sea, flying bombing missions over Afghanistan, and monitoring the region for Al Qaeda nautical traffic.
斯坦尼斯号航空母舰当时正在阿拉伯海某处巡航，在阿富汗上空执行轰炸任务，并监视该地区的基地组织海上交通。
We visited the briefing room at one of the air squadrons on the Stennis, a squadron that calls itself the World Famous Screwbirds.
我们参观了斯坦尼斯号上一个空军中队的简报室，该中队自称为世界著名的螺旋鸟。
On a desk there's a big jar of red licorice and some homemade blondies that someone's girlfriend sent everybody.
桌子上有一大罐红色甘草和一些自制的金发女郎，是某人的女朋友送给大家的。
On the wall, there's this underground newspaper the aviators print, which is in the style of the Onion.
墙上挂着一份飞行员印制的地下报纸，是洋葱报的风格。
Stories and headlines all consist of these inside jokes like, "New Billet Added to Air Wing Watch," which, um, we don't understand at all, but everybody else seems to find hilarious.
故事和头条新闻都包含这些内部笑话，例如“空翼手表中添加了新钢坯”，嗯，我们根本不明白，但其他人似乎都觉得很搞笑。
On the backs of the leather chairs the pilots sit on are their call signs, the official nicknames they use over the radio on their missions.
飞行员坐的皮椅背上有他们的呼号，这是他们在执行任务时通过无线电使用的官方昵称。
There's Frenchie, Tank, Chewie, Fish, Rain Man, Mr. Burns, that last one for a pilot who supposedly looks like the character on the Simpsons.
其中有“Frenchie”、“Tank”、“Chewie”、“Fish”、“Rain Man”、“Mr. Burns”，最后一位是飞行员，据说他看起来像《辛普森一家》中的角色。
Pom-Pom.
波姆波姆。
(INTERVIEWER) WENDY DORR: Interesting.
（采访者）温迪·多尔：有趣。
Yeah, fascinating.
是啊，迷人。
Pilot 1 Well yeah, there's a story behind it, though.
Pilot 1 嗯，是的，不过它背后有一个故事。
I think I know it.
我想我知道。
Hmm, what was it?
嗯，那是什么？
Oh, one of us sitting here, call sign Pom-Pom, was a cheerleader in college.
哦，我们坐在这里的一个人，呼号为 Pom-Pom，是大学里的啦啦队长。
One of them shows us the official drawing of the squadron mascot, and quietly points out that it's a bird whose wing has a middle feather extended like a middle finger.
其中一张向我们展示了中队吉祥物的官方图纸，并轻声指出这是一只鸟，翅膀中间的羽毛像中指一样延伸。
At 4:00 AM, nine of these guys sit down in their flight suits to watch an intelligence briefing that comes in over closed circuit TV.
凌晨 4:00，其中九个人穿着飞行服坐下来观看闭路电视上播放的情报简报。
Then a young guy named Steve [?
然后是一个名叫史蒂夫的年轻人[？
Coppler ?] stands up in front.
科普勒？]站在前面。
All right.
好的。
Good morning.
早上好。
Briefing here for our [?
这里为我们的[?
XAR ?] mission.
XAR？] 使命。
702, 705, and we've got Gonzo in 706.
702、705，还有 706 中的奇闻趣事。
I'd like you to act as a fill.
我想让你充当替补。
Watching him, it occurs to me how rare it is as an adult to hear somebody speak in your own language for 10 minutes, and not understand a word he's saying.
看着他，我意识到作为一个成年人，听到有人用自己的语言说话十分钟，却听不懂他在说什么，这是多么罕见的事情。
Divert field, we're working blue water ops.
转移战场，我们正在进行蓝水行动。
If we need to divert and we're feet dry, you know where we're going.
如果我们需要改道而我们又手足无措，你知道我们要去哪里。
And if we're feet wet, we'll go to Masirah there.
如果我们的脚湿了，我们就会去那里的马西拉。
Then they suit up.
然后他们就穿好衣服。
It's a crazy amount of survival gear, 20 to 25 pounds worth, including the parachute, survival knife, radios, flares, and something called a blood chit.
这是数量惊人的救生装备，价值 20 到 25 磅，包括降落伞、救生刀、无线电、照明弹和一种叫做血条的东西。
Screwbirds' commanding officer, Ross Myers, a trim man with the call sign Monkey Butt stitched on to his Navy coveralls in neat block letters, pulls one out to show us.
螺丝鸟队的指挥官罗斯·迈尔斯（Ross Myers）是一位身材修长的男士，他的海军连体服上用整齐的大写字母缝着呼号“猴子屁股”（Monkey Butt），他拿出一张给我们看。
It's a piece of paper with an American flag and a serial number, with the same message in several languages.
这是一张带有美国国旗和序列号的纸，并用多种语言写有相同的信息。
Oh, Arabic, English, Dari, Pashto, Uzbek-- which would have to be for Uzbekistan-- Persian, Farsi.
哦，阿拉伯语、英语、达里语、普什图语、乌兹别克语——对于乌兹别克斯坦来说就必须如此——波斯语、波斯语。
And then in English it gives a translation.
然后它会给出英文翻译。
I'm an American, and do not speak your language.
我是美国人，不会说你们的语言。
I will not harm you.
我不会伤害你。
I bear no malice towards your people.
我对你们的人民没有恶意。
My friend, please provide me food, water, shelter, and necessary medical attention.
我的朋友，请为我提供食物、水、住所和必要的医疗护理。
Also please provide safe passage to the nearest friendly forces of any country supporting the Americans and their allies.
另请为支持美国及其盟友的任何国家最近的友军提供安全通道。
You will be rewarded for assisting me when you present this number to American authorities.
当您向美国当局出示此号码时，您将因协助我而获得奖励。
Everybody maintain their [UNINTELLIGIBLE] station.
每个人都维护着他们的[无法理解]站。
We'll be taking the next aircraft out now, 20 minutes.
20 分钟后，我们将起飞下一架飞机。
The Screwbirds head out to their planes.
螺丝鸟队出发前往他们的飞机。
An aircraft carrier's main mission is to fly planes, but when you see what it takes to launch or land a jet on a boat, what you realize is that human beings should not be doing this at all.
航空母舰的主要任务是驾驶飞机，但是当您看到如何在船上发射或降落喷气式飞机时，您会意识到人类根本不应该这样做。
The runway is just too short.
跑道太短了。
For the planes to get enough lift under their wings, the crew actually has to drive the boat at top speed into the wind.
为了让飞机在机翼下获得足够的升力，机组人员实际上必须以最快的速度驾驶船迎风行驶。
Then the front wheel of the plane is attached to machinery under the deck, the catapult, which literally flings it off the edge of the deck like a pebble from a slingshot.
然后，飞机的前轮连接到甲板下的机械装置，即弹射器，弹射器实际上将飞机从甲板边缘抛出，就像弹弓上的卵石一样。
Landing the plane on the deck is much harder than taking off, and it's very, very dangerous.
将飞机降落在甲板上比起飞要困难得多，而且非常非常危险。
The head of the Screwbirds, Ross Myers, aka Monkey Butt, says that in his 16 years of service, he's personally seen six of his friends crash into the back of the boat while trying to land.
Screwbirds 的队长 Ross Myers（又名 Monkey Butt）表示，在他 16 年的服役生涯中，他亲眼目睹了 6 个朋友在试图着陆时撞到了船尾。
None of them survived.
他们无一幸存。
Basically what you're trying to do is latch a hook that hangs from the back of your plane on to one of four cables that are stretched across the deck.
基本上，您要做的就是将悬挂在飞机后部的钩子挂在横跨甲板的四根电缆中的一根上。
An airman named Dave Cruz explains how it works.
一位名叫戴夫·克鲁兹 (Dave Cruz) 的飞行员解释了它的工作原理。
The pilot looks at something called the ball, which indicates if he's coming in on target, and talks to guys called LSOs-- they're fellow pilots actually, who stand right on deck.
飞行员看着一个叫做球的东西，这表明他是否正在接近目标，并与称为 LSO 的人交谈 - 他们实际上是站在甲板上的飞行员同事。
And it's up to the LSOs to guide him in.
LSO 需要引导他加入。
Right now they're talking to that next guy who are coming in, which is a Tomcat, which is 3/4 of a mile.
现在他们正在与下一个进来的人交谈，这是一只雄猫，距离 3/4 英里。
He's calling the ball, and stating the fuel state.
他正在指挥球，并说明燃料状态。
115 on course, on glide path, 3/4 of a mile.
115 在航线上，在下滑道上，3/4 英里。
Call the ball.
叫球。
115, Tomcat ball 8.0.
115、雄猫球8.0。
Lso Roger ball, 28 knots down the angle.
Lso Roger 球，28 节的角度。
Right now it's about a quarter of a mile.
现在大约有四分之一英里。
Right now he's just telling him you're on ball, and it should be good to go.
现在他只是告诉他你进展顺利，应该很好走。
Yes.
是的。
That is too short.
那太短了。
That is too short, which is the one wire.
那太短了，就一根线。
That is too short.
那太短了。
The one wire is the wire closest to the rear of the boat, and if you catch it, that means that you were dangerously close to going too low and slamming into the back of the carrier.
其中一根电线是最靠近船后部的电线，如果你抓住它，那就意味着你很危险地接近于太低并撞上航母的后部。
Sometimes a pilot can't straighten out his approach enough, and the LSOs have to wave him off.
有时飞行员无法充分理顺他的进近，LSO 不得不挥手让他离开。
It can get a little tense.
它可能会有点紧张。
Here comes another one.
另一位来了。
Just describe how he's doing.
只是描述一下他的表现。
All right, he's turning.
好吧，他要转身了。
He's turning into the 3/4 mile now.
他现在正在转入 3/4 英里。
And right now he's a little too low.
而且现在他的地位有点太低了。
All right, now the pilot should be telling him, kind of give it a little throttle.
好吧，现在飞行员应该告诉他，稍微加大油门。
Don't settle.
别安定下来。
Power.
力量。
Power.
力量。
Wave off, wave off.
挥手，挥手。
One deck below, in the Blue Diamond Squadron briefing room, I talked to a pilot named Jeremy Markin about what it's like when things don't go well during a landing.
在下面一层甲板的蓝钻中队简报室里，我与一位名叫杰里米·马金的飞行员谈论了着陆过程中事情进展不顺利时的感受。
Who knows what happens?
谁知道会发生什么？
Maybe you lose an important instrument inside, and it's nighttime, and maybe there's weather.
也许你在里面丢失了一个重要的仪器，而且现在是晚上，也许还有天气。
And so you're in the goo, we call it, inside the clouds.
所以你就在我们所说的云中。
It's dark.
天黑了。
So you tell yourself you've got to fly the best pass ever, and you come down, and just one thing leads to another.
所以你告诉自己，你必须飞出有史以来最好的传球，然后你就下来了，一件事导致了另一件事。
And the next thing you know, you're looking at the back of the boat, and you're close to it, and you've got guys screaming at you.
接下来你知道的事情是，你看着船尾，你离它很近，有人对你尖叫。
You put in the afterburners, and your hook touches down a couple feet past the back of the boat.
你打开加力燃烧室，你的钩子就会落在距离船尾几英尺的地方。
And you go taxi into the one wire there, high speeds, and realize they caught you.
然后你高速滑进那里的一根电线，然后意识到他们抓住了你。
Your legs are shaking.
你的腿在颤抖。
You're still on blower.
你还在用鼓风机。
Your lights are still on, and the air boss says, we got you, you can relax now.
你的灯还亮着，空中老板说，我们找到你了，你现在可以放松了。
And it's kind of hard to relax right away.
而且很难立即放松。
You kind of got to unwind for a little bit.
你需要放松一下。
You said you're hooking it to the back of the boat by a couple inches.
你说你要把它挂在船尾几英寸处。
What does that mean?
这意味着什么？
Well, obviously the hook hit the back of the boat.
嗯，显然鱼钩撞到了船尾。
That means your plane hit the back of the boat.
这意味着您的飞机撞上了船尾。
It wouldn't be good.
那就不好了。
The Blue Diamonds' briefing room is just like the Screwbirds' room, only a little more spartan and a little more macho, including the nicknames, which make Monkey Butt sound almost dignified by comparison.
蓝钻队的简报室就像螺丝鸟队的房间一样，只是更简朴一点，更有男子气概一点，包括绰号，相比之下，猴子屁股听起来几乎是庄严的。
Balls, Scrote, Itchy.
睾丸，阴囊，发痒。
I got Itchy for a while because my last name is Balsitis.
我有一段时间很痒，因为我的姓是 Balsitis。
Looks like Balls-itis, sort of like some kind of disease.
看起来像球炎，有点像某种疾病。
Both Alex and I hung out with the Blue Diamonds for about an hour.
亚历克斯和我都和蓝钻乐队一起玩了大约一个小时。
I interviewed Dave Balsitis on one side of the room, while Alex interviewed another pilot, Jeremy Markin, on the other side.
我在房间的一侧采访了戴夫·巴尔西蒂斯，而亚历克斯则在另一侧采访了另一位飞行员杰里米·马金。
And what struck us when we got home is how closely they agree on some things, and how far apart they are on others.
当我们回到家时，令我们震惊的是他们在某些事情上的看法是多么一致，而在另一些事情上却相距甚远。
How long does it take to get to Afghanistan?
到达阿富汗需要多长时间？
Anywhere from an hour and a half to two hours.
任何地方从一个半小时到两个小时不等。
It depends on where you're going.
这取决于你要去哪里。
And what's it like over in Afghanistan?
阿富汗的情况怎么样？
What does it look like?
它看起来像什么？
Actually it looks pretty in the mountainous areas.
其实在山区看起来还是很漂亮的。
Snow on the mountains, looks like real nice mountain peaks.
山上白雪皑皑，看起来就像真正的美丽山峰。
(INTERVIEWER) WENDY DORR: What does it look like when you fly over Afghanistan, and you fly over these targets?
（采访者）温迪·多尔（WENDY DORR）：当你飞越阿富汗并飞越这些目标时，情况会是什么样子？
Yeah, it's probably not much different from out near Glamis in southern California or something.
是的，这可能与南加州格拉米斯附近或其他地方没有太大不同。
There's dunes, mountains.
这里有沙丘、山脉。
It looks like a beautiful country.
它看起来像一个美丽的国家。
(SUBJECT) DAVE BALSITIS: There's no color.
（主题）DAVE BALSITIS：没有颜色。
There's no irrigation, no lakes, no streams, no farms.
没有灌溉，没有湖泊，没有溪流，没有农场。
Just brown, and some snow.
只是棕色，还有一些雪。
So it's pretty ugly.
所以它非常难看。
When you're actually doing what you're doing, you're kind of so busy that you don't really have a lot of time to sit back and go hey, look at the scenery.
当你真正做你正在做的事情时，你会很忙，以至于没有太多时间坐下来看看风景。
But in those moments, those positive moments you have, and you look around, the world's a beautiful place.
但在那些时刻，那些积极的时刻，当你环顾四周时，世界是一个美丽的地方。
It's kind of weird to imagine up that high and you're looking down.
站在那么高的地方却往下看，感觉有点奇怪。
It looks so beautiful, and then you get snapped back in to what's going on down there, and you got to refocus.
它看起来如此美丽，然后你就会回到那里发生的事情，你必须重新集中注意力。
This might be sort of a bonehead civilian question, but is it hard to drop a bomb?
这可能是一个愚蠢的平民问题，但是投炸弹很难吗？
Oh, you mean like in almost a moral sense?
哦，你的意思是几乎在道德意义上？
Emotional or-- Jeremy Markin Emotional, it's a double-edged emotion.
情感或——杰里米·马金 情感，这是一种双刃剑。
It's what you train for your whole life.
这是你一生都要训练的东西。
The fact of you doing it, doing it correctly, and you drop your bomb on the target, it's emotional from a hey, I did my job.
事实上，你这样做了，做得正确了，然后你把炸弹扔到了目标上，这是一种情绪化的感觉，因为“嘿，我做了我的工作”。
And just that I was trained, and I did it well.
只是我受过训练，而且做得很好。
While you're up there, I don't really think about the other side of the sword.
当你在上面时，我并没有真正考虑剑的另一面。
It's my job to go up there and drop bombs, and so I do it.
我的工作就是去那里扔炸弹，所以我就这么做了。
(SUBJECT) DAVE BALSITIS: I feel no remorse about dropping a bomb on them down below.
（主题）戴夫·巴尔西蒂斯（DAVE Balsitis）：我对在下面向他们投下炸弹并不感到后悔。
It's not sadistic.
这不是虐待狂。
It's just I think it's the right thing.
只是我认为这是正确的事情。
Someone came into our house and trampled on our land, and to go on their land and absolutely pulverize them makes me feel very warm inside.
有人闯进我们家，践踏我们的土地，走进他们的土地，把他们彻底碾碎，让我心里感到很温暖。
I think that's great.
我认为那太好了。
I'm just glad I could be part of the team that's out here doing it, and dropping bombs on the bad people.
我很高兴我能成为这个团队的一员，这个团队在这里向坏人投掷炸弹。
I sleep at night.
我晚上睡觉。
It's 7:30 in the morning, and it's over 12 hours since reveille first called everyone to work.
现在是早上 7 点 30 分，距离起床号第一次叫大家上班已经过去了 12 个多小时。
For most people it's the end of the work day.
对于大多数人来说，这是一天工作的结束。
In the mess hall on the second deck, Cynthia and David have just finished their dinner, and they're waiting for the 8 o'clock movie, Exit Wounds, to begin.
在二层甲板的食堂里，辛西娅和大卫刚刚吃完晚饭，正在等待八点钟的电影《Exit Wounds》开始。
Every now and then we get to watch a chick movie.
我们时不时地会看一部小鸡电影。
Yeah, we got to watch Stepmom the other day.
是的，前几天我们去看了继母。
Yes.
是的。
Yeah, I like Stepmom, Steel Magnolias.
是的，我喜欢继母，钢玉兰。
They've been showing that one lately.
他们最近一直在展示这个。
They've got it on board.
他们已经把它放在船上了。
(SUBJECT) DAVID: Oh yeah, I haven't seen that one.
（主题）大卫：哦，是的，我还没见过那个。
There are TVs just about everywhere people are not working on the ship, with two channels of movies and network shows 24 hours a day.
船上工作以外的地方几乎都有电视，每天 24 小时有两个频道播放电影和网络节目。
Every Tuesday night we have a movie night where we'll pick a movie through email.
每个星期二晚上我们都会举办电影之夜，我们将通过电子邮件挑选电影。
We vote on what we want to see.
我们对我们想看到的内容进行投票。
I voted for Miss Congeniality.
我投票给了“友善小姐”。
I'm so going to watch that tonight.
今晚我要去看看。
As did I.
我也一样。
Wendy Dorr Sitting there side by side in their matching navy blue jumpsuits, they look like they're best friends, if there was such a thing for a man and a woman to be on a Navy ship.
温迪·多尔 (Wendy Dorr) 穿着相配的海军蓝色连身裤并排坐在那儿，如果海军舰艇上有这样的男人和女人的话，他们看起来就像是最好的朋友。
They're both reading the Left Behind series.
他们都在读《Left Behind》系列。
He's on book two.
他正在写第二本书。
She's on book four.
她正在读第四本书。
They love playing The Game of Life on Cynthia's PlayStation, and they both enjoy a good chick movie.
他们喜欢在辛西娅的 PlayStation 上玩《生命游戏》，而且都喜欢一部精彩的小鸡电影。
David joined the Navy so he could get out of his small town in Iowa, and Cynthia joined so she could get her and her three kids off of welfare, and it worked.
大卫加入海军是为了离开爱荷华州的小镇，辛西娅加入海军是为了让她和她的三个孩子摆脱福利，这很有效。
They're are all doing great now, she says.
她说，他们现在都过得很好。
And I've said this before.
我以前已经说过这一点。
People laugh at me, but when I come out to sea, it's like a break for me, because at home I've got kids to take care of, a house to take care of.
人们嘲笑我，但当我出海时，这对我来说就像是休息，因为在家里我有孩子要照顾，有房子要照顾。
And I get out here, and all I've got to do is take care of myself, go to work, and go to sleep, kill time in between.
当我离开这里，我所要做的就是照顾好自己，去工作，然后去睡觉，消磨时间。
So it's kind of a break being out here for me.
所以，来到这里对我来说是一种休息。
Even though she has 11 years of service and he has 13, both with decent rank, this is how they live.
尽管她已经服役了11年，他也已经服役了13年，军衔都还不错，但这就是他们的生活。
David sleeps in a room called a berthing with 196 other guys, and he's one of the oldest at 34.
大卫和另外 196 个人睡在一个叫做“泊位”的房间里，他 34 岁了，是年龄最大的人之一。
Each sailor gets a bunk bed with a locker underneath it, and their entire personal space is six feet long, a foot and a half tall, and about two feet wide.
每个水手都有一张双层床，床下有一个储物柜，他们的整个个人空间有六英尺长，一英尺半高，大约两英尺宽。
And it's set up in the berthing, it's set up kind of in areas.
它设置在泊位中，设置在某种区域中。
You'll have this one little neighborhood that's listening to this music, and I'm over in the old folks place.
你会有一个小邻居在听这种音乐，而我在老人院。
Most of us listen to country music or something slow.
我们大多数人都听乡村音乐或慢节奏的音乐。
See, I live in a 26-person berthing, so it's not quite as bad as 197.
看吧，我住在26人的泊位，所以没有197人那么糟糕。
A lot of us have brought stuff to make it kind of homey.
我们很多人都带来了一些东西，让这里变得有家的感觉。
Mine's Tweety Bird.
我的是翠儿鸟。
I have a Tweety Bird comforter, a Tweety Bird pillows, Tweety Bird wallpaper around my rack.
我的架子上有一个翠儿鸟被子、一个翠儿鸟枕头、翠儿鸟壁纸。
You don't see that stuff down in the male berthing at all.
你在男性泊位上根本看不到那些东西。
It's now very late, meaning 9:00 in the morning, and Senior Chief Barbara Mendoza invites us to the chief's mess, a special dining room for the ship's chiefs.
现在已经很晚了，也就是早上 9:00，高级酋长芭芭拉·门多萨 (Barbara Mendoza) 邀请我们去酋长餐厅，这是为船上酋长们准备的特别餐厅。
There are maybe 30 tables, with chairs stacked on top, and the floors are shiny and clean.
大概有30张桌子，上面堆放着椅子，地板光亮干净。
The room is quiet, aside from the pleasant electric hum of refrigerators and drink machines, and the far-off purring of the ship's engines.
房间里很安静，除了冰箱和饮料机令人愉悦的电嗡嗡声，以及远处轮船发动机的轰鸣声。
In the center of the room, five middle-aged men are sitting around one of the tables.
房间中央，五名中年男子围坐在一张桌子旁。
It's their nightly card game.
这是他们每晚的纸牌游戏。
They're playing Hearts, and they're passing around a picture of someone jumping into the ocean during a recent break, when they were allowed to swim.
他们正在玩红心大战，并传递了一张照片，照片上有人在最近一次休息期间跳进海里，当时他们被允许游泳。
This is a perfect shot.
这是一个完美的镜头。
You have Randy there jumping off the elevator, and they have a picture of a shark trying to swallow him up.
兰迪从电梯里跳下来，他们有一张鲨鱼试图吞掉他的照片。
Nobody can decide, though, whether he's going in or being spit back out.
然而，没有人能决定他是进去还是被吐出来。
It's up to your interpretation.
这取决于你的解释。
The person who made this picture, this fake picture on the computer, is the person you just heard, Bobby, Bobby [?
制作这张图片的人，这张在电脑上的假图片，就是你刚才听到的那个人，鲍比，鲍比【？
Boucher, ?] which is not his real name.
鲍彻，？] 这不是他的真名。
Joel, which is not his real name, explains.
乔尔（这不是他的真名）解释道。
Well, his real name's Mike.
嗯，他的真名是迈克。
We call him Bobby.
我们叫他鲍比。
You want to know why?
你想知道为什么吗？
Yes.
是的。
Mike Tell him the story of Bobby [?
迈克告诉他鲍比的故事[？
Boucher.
布歇。
?]
？]
Bobby goes over here to a bar with one of our other friends, Brent.
鲍比和我们的另一位朋友布伦特一起去了一家酒吧。
They go out, and Brent offers to buy him something.
他们出去了，布伦特提出要给他买点东西。
Well--
嗯——
It was a free beer.
这是一杯免费啤酒。
(SUBJECT) MIKE: No, no, you're getting it all wrong.
（主题）迈克：不，不，你完全错了。
They do this over and over.
他们一遍又一遍地这样做。
Tell a tip story.
讲一个秘诀故事。
Tell him about the girl in Singapore.
告诉他新加坡那个女孩的事。
And then they all start laughing.
然后他们都开始大笑。
And then they finally tell the stories, barely getting through them because someone is always interrupting to say they're not telling the story right.
然后他们终于讲故事了，但勉强讲完，因为总是有人打断说他们讲的故事不对。
No. Chief 3 Tell him the tip.
号长 3 告诉他秘诀。
You've got to.
你必须这样做。
Yeah.
是的。
Wendy Dorr If you picture how the Navy works, there are the enlisted men, and then are the officers.
温迪·多尔（Wendy Dorr） 如果你想象一下海军是如何运作的，首先是士兵，然后是军官。
The enlisted, and you've met lots of them on today's show, usually come into the Navy at 18 or 19 years old, straight out of high school.
您在今天的节目中见过很多应征入伍的人，他们通常在 18 或 19 岁高中刚毕业就加入海军。
Officers come into the Navy as officers, with higher rank and privileges.
军官以军官身份进入海军，拥有更高的军衔和特权。
The chiefs are the highest-ranking enlisted people, and anyone in the Navy will tell you they run the Navy.
酋长是最高级别的士兵，海军中的任何人都会告诉你他们管理着海军。
They're the buffer between the bosses and the people who actually do the work.
他们是老板和实际工作人员之间的缓冲者。
We have to keep the high-echelon people from bothering these guys.
我们必须阻止高层人士打扰这些家伙。
Let them do their job, at the same time getting the job done so that these guys up here are happy.
让他们做好自己的工作，同时完成工作，让这里的这些人感到高兴。
You become like everybody's, your whole division's, father and mother all rolled into one.
你会变得像每个人、整个部门的父亲和母亲一样合而为一。
They need to cry on your shoulder, you let them cry on your shoulder.
他们需要在你的肩膀上哭泣，你让他们在你的肩膀上哭泣。
You need to kick them in the butt, you kick them in the butt.
你需要踢他们的屁股，你踢他们的屁股。
You listen to their problems.
你倾听他们的问题。
You talk to them.
你和他们谈谈。
You try to help them, and that's probably what most of us spend most our time doing.
你试图帮助他们，这可能是我们大多数人花大部分时间做的事情。
Every day, The Don says, somebody comes to him with a problem back home they need to solve, and The Don-- his real name is Brent-- helps them out.
唐说，每天都会有人带着需要解决的问题来找他，而唐（他的真名是布伦特）会帮助他们解决问题。
Often this means getting on the phone and contacting another chief out there somewhere.
通常这意味着打电话并联系某个地方的另一位主管。
There's a whole chief-to-chief network.
有一个完整的酋长对酋长网络。
The chief that I need to talk to knows somebody at the command, and they can talk to that chief, who can get this whole thing going.
我需要交谈的长官认识指挥部的某个人，他们可以与那个长官交谈，他可以让整个事情继续下去。
It's a fraternity.
这是兄弟会。
We work together, and that's one of the biggest things about being a chief.
我们一起工作，这是作为酋长最重要的事情之一。
We are one.
我们是一体的。
The goal-- once you start out in the Navy, if you have a good chief from the beginning, your goal is to be a chief.
目标——一旦你开始加入海军，如果你从一开始就有一个好的酋长，你的目标就是成为一名酋长。
I mean, your goal is to be that chief.
我的意思是，你的目标是成为那个酋长。
And for me that was the goal.
对我来说，这就是目标。
Who was your chief?
谁是你们的首领？
Brent It was a guy named Chief Womack.
布伦特 这是一个名叫沃马克酋长的人。
He was my first chief in the Navy, and he was there anytime I needed anything.
他是我在海军的第一任首长，只要我需要任何东西，他都会在那里。
He was always there.
他一直都在那里。
(HOST) ALEX BLUMBERG: Late one night, Lieutenant Gorell and a TV crew from San Diego and I are on our way back to the staterooms, when Gorell invites us into the officer's mess for a bowl of cereal before bed.
（主持人）亚历克斯·布隆伯格：一天深夜，戈雷尔中尉和来自圣地亚哥的电视摄制组和我正在返回客舱的路上，戈雷尔邀请我们在睡前去军官食堂喝一碗麦片粥。
Inside there's a group of officers talking at another table, and one enlisted man breaking down the serving line.
里面有一群军官在另一张桌子上交谈，一名士兵正在打破服务线。
It's late, and most of the people in the ship are in bed.
天色已晚，船上大部分人都已经睡觉了。
[UNINTELLIGIBLE PHRASE] control.
[难以理解的短语] 控制。
Loss of feed in number two reactor plant.
二号反应堆工厂进料损失。
Reactor mechanical casualty assistance team, layer number two, reactor room.
反应堆机械伤亡援助小组，二层，反应堆室。
(HOST) ALEX BLUMBERG: "Loss of feed in number two reactor plant.
（主持人）亚历克斯·布隆伯格：“二号反应堆工厂的进料损失。
Reactor mechanical and casualty assistance teams, report to number two reactor room." Casualty assistance teams?
反应堆机械和伤亡援助小组，向二号反应堆室报到。”伤亡援助队？
That can't be good, right?
这不太好，对吧？
After half an hour in which I tried to convince myself that my stomach ache was not radiation sickness, and Ira tried to figure out how he could get down to the ship's nuclear reactors to report on the accident, another PA announcement came on, just like the first, but with one additional sentence.
半小时后，我试图说服自己，我的胃痛不是辐射病，艾拉试图弄清楚他如何才能到船上的核反应堆报告事故，然后又出现了广播电台的公告，就像第一个公告一样，但多了一句话。
Reactor mechanical casualty assistance team, layer number two, reactor room.
反应堆机械伤亡援助小组，二层，反应堆室。
This is a drill.
这是一次演习。
(SUBJECT) ALEX BLUMBERG: At breakfast, we learned what had happened.
（主题）亚历克斯·布隆伯格：早餐时，我们了解到发生了什么事。
The loud sound?
声音大吗？
That was a routine test for one of the catapults, and the PA announcement had been a routine drill.
这是对其中一个弹射器的例行测试，而 PA 的公告也是例行演习。
The two things were totally unrelated.
这两件事完全无关。
Both things, they said, happened almost every day.
他们说，这两件事几乎每天都发生。
Thank you very much, Alex, for that report.
非常感谢亚历克斯的报告。
There's one more thing that happened on the Stennis that I keep thinking about in the weeks since we returned.
自从我们回来后的几周里，我一直在思考斯坦尼斯号上发生的另一件事。
It was at the end of our very last day there, which meant 10:40 in the morning.
那是我们在那里的最后一天结束时，即上午 10:40。
And Barbara Mendoza, the chief who had been kind enough to invite us to the chief's mess, took Alex and Wendy and I outside to the very back of the ship, the fantail, looking at the water and the sky.
酋长芭芭拉·门多萨（Barbara Mendoza）很友善地邀请我们去酋长的餐厅，她带着亚历克斯、温迪和我来到船的最后面，扇尾，看着水和天空。
It's one of her favorite places on the Stennis.
这是斯坦尼斯河上她最喜欢的地方之一。
I come out here every day before I go to bed.
我每天睡觉前都会来这里。
It's very peaceful.
非常平静。
I do a lot of thinking out here.
我在这里思考了很多。
I relax a lot, and I really like it.
我放松了很多，我真的很喜欢它。
I mean, look at it.
我的意思是，看看它。
It's beautiful.
很美丽。
There's no other place to be.
没有其他地方可去了。
We look out at the north Arabian Sea, the waters that military vessels have sailed for thousands of years.
我们眺望北阿拉伯海，军舰在这片海域航行了数千年。
Persians were here 500 years before the birth of Christ.
波斯人在基督诞生前 500 年就已经来到这里。
Alexander the Great sent ships here, the Ottomans, the Chinese, the Romans, the Portuguese, all of them great naval powers in their day.
亚历山大大帝、奥斯曼人、中国人、罗马人、葡萄牙人，他们都是当时伟大的海军强国，都曾派遣船只来到这里。
Hey chief, do you ever think about the fact that you're serving over here in this particular ocean, this particular body of water, how long people have been traveling by sea across this?
嘿，酋长，你有没有想过，你在这片特定的海洋、这片特定的水域服务，人们从海上穿越这片水域已经有多久了？
You know, I always wonder-- when I look at big bodies of water like this-- I always wonder how many ships are on the bottom of this floor.
你知道，我总是想知道——当我看着这样的大水体时——我总是想知道这层楼的底部有多少艘船。
So that's one of the things that I like to think about when I'm out here.
所以这是我来这里时喜欢思考的事情之一。
I wonder how many ships are out here on the bottom that never made it home.
我想知道有多少艘船在海底却从未回家。
Hundreds?
数百个？
Over hundreds of them?
超过数百个？
From all the wars that we've been through.
从我们经历过的所有战争中。
Here you are working for the mightiest navy in the history of the world.
在这里，您为世界历史上最强大的海军工作。
Off to the starboard side of the ship, we can see the USS Port Royal protecting our back.
在船的右舷，我们可以看到皇家港口号航空母舰在保护我们的背部。
We Americans are here for now, while it lasts.
我们美国人现在就在这里，只要它持续下去。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] Original music for this hour by John Kimbrough.
[鸣谢] 本小时的原创音乐由 John Kimbrough 创作。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight for our program by Mr. Torey Malatia, who describes his personal life these days this way:
[资金来源] Torey Malatia 先生对我们项目的 WBEZ 管理监督，他这样描述他这些天的个人生活：
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。