191: I Know What You Did This Summer - This American Life
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Prologue Ira Glass From WBEZ Chicago and Public Radio International, it's This American Life.
序言 来自 WBEZ 芝加哥和国际公共广播电台的 Ira Glass，这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
It is just so hot.
天气太热了。
That's my big thought.
这是我的大想法。
It is just so hot.
天气太热了。
And so, together, everybody.
所以，大家一起。
One, two, three.
一二三。
Everybody.
大家。
[SPLASH] Ira Glass Ah, that's better.
[水花] Ira Glass 啊，好多了。
Here at the Holstein Park pool here on Chicago's West Side.
在芝加哥西区的荷斯坦公园游泳池。
Here in Chicago we've had some truly horrible days this summer, days where the air has had a kind of meaty thickness it is so humid.
今年夏天，在芝加哥，我们度过了一些真正可怕的日子，空气里有一种肉质的粘稠感，而且非常潮湿。
No wind off the lake.
湖边没有风。
Thank you very much, Mr. Weather.
非常感谢你，天气先生。
Torpor sets in.
麻木感开始出现。
Torpor, actual torpor.
麻木，真正的麻木。
After jumping into the swimming pool, Vanessa, Elizabeth, and Patrice do one bracing lap, and then spent, hang on the side inert for four hours.
跳进游泳池后，瓦妮莎、伊丽莎白和帕特里斯做了一圈支撑，然后在一边一动不动地挂了四个小时。
Next to the pool, the lifeguard that everybody is in love with, Adrian, lays on his side among a group of intensely captivated 12 and 13 year old girls, plus a few little boys.
泳池旁边，人人都爱的救生员阿德里安 (Adrian) 侧身躺在一群全神贯注的 12 岁和 13 岁女孩中间，还有几个小男孩。
Not one of them can move.
他们谁也不能动。
Nah, [SPEAKING SPANISH] my Mexican song?
不，[说西班牙语]我的墨西哥歌曲？
Yeah, sing it.
是啊，唱吧。
Adrian [SINGING IN SPANISH]
阿德里安 [用西班牙语演唱]
Adrian looks up at the group.
阿德里安抬头看着这群人。
Adrian See, what?
阿德里安 瞧，什么？
Armondo, are you falling asleep?
阿蒙多，你睡着了吗？
I'm lullabying you to sleep?
我在哄你睡觉吗？
For real, man.
说真的，伙计。
Ira Glass Who can blame Armondo?
艾拉·格拉斯 谁能责怪阿蒙多？
Who, for that matter, can get up the energy to give a damn in this heat?
话说回来，谁能在这么热的天气里有精力去关心呢？
Today on our program, what to do in the hottest heat of summer when you're not sleeping right and simply walking to the car or the bus takes it all out of you.
今天，在我们的节目中，在最热的夏天，当您睡不好，只是步行去汽车或公共汽车时，该怎么办？
And you know that you're not thinking straight and there is not a thing that you can do about it.
你知道你的思维不正常，对此你无能为力。
We know what you did this summer.
我们知道你今年夏天做了什么。
Our program today in three acts.
我们今天的节目分三幕。
Act One, Just Three Thousand More Miles to the Beach.
第一幕，距海滩仅三千英里。
In that act, Scott Carrier on a road trip.
在那一幕中，斯科特·卡里尔正在进行公路旅行。
No air conditioning.
没有空调。
Too hot to stay in the car, too hot to get out of the car.
呆在车里太热，下车也太热了。
Act Two, It's Not the Heat, It's the Humility, in which we move into an environment that is so fantastically, oppressively hot that the people there have convinced themselves that sweating-- sweating by itself-- is actually getting something done.
第二幕，这不是炎热，而是谦卑，我们进入了一个异常炎热的环境，以至于那里的人们说服自己，流汗——流汗本身——实际上是在完成一些事情。
Act Three, You Can Have Your Cave and Eat It Too.
第三幕，你可以拥有你的洞穴，也可以吃它。
Sarah Vowell brings us the story of a national dispute involving a cave, a sandwich, park rangers, scientists, and, yes, always good for a laugh, the world famous United States Congress.
莎拉·沃威尔（Sarah Vowell）为我们讲述了一场全国性争端的故事，涉及一个洞穴、一个三明治、公园管理员、科学家，当然，还有总是令人开怀大笑的世界著名的美国国会。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Just Three Thousand Miles to the Beach.
第一幕，距海滩仅三千英里。
Like so many summer stories, this one from Scott Carrier, starts with a whim and ends with a whimper.
就像许多夏日故事一样，斯科特·卡里尔的这篇故事以突发奇想开始，以呜咽结束。
It was summer, the middle of a hot summer.
那是夏天，正值炎热的夏季。
I drove to San Francisco to visit a friend and escape the heat, but when I got there, almost right as I got off the Bay Bridge, my truck began to die.
我开车去旧金山拜访一位朋友并躲避炎热，但当我到达那里时，几乎就在我离开海湾大桥时，我的卡车开始熄火。
It lost its power, and I could barely make it up the steep hills.
它失去了动力，我几乎无法爬上陡峭的山坡。
I was stalling traffic, throwing out big, black clouds of smoke, forcing people to cover their faces and walk on the other side of the street.
我阻碍了交通，喷出巨大的黑色烟雾，迫使人们遮住脸，走在街道的另一边。
It had never been a good truck, always a collector of bad luck-- dents, cracked cylinder block, broken clutch push rod, broken brake lines, and smashed head lights.
它从来都不是一辆好卡车，总是运气不佳——凹痕、缸体破裂、离合器推杆坏了、刹车线坏了、头灯坏了。
All sad stories.
都是悲伤的故事。
I considered driving it to Fisherman's Wharf, taking the plates, ceremoniously shooting the horse, and walking away from it.
我考虑把它开到渔人码头，拿走盘子，隆重地射杀这匹马，然后走开。
But then, I slept on it, and in the morning I thought, maybe a mechanic can fix it, someone who actually knows about engines.
但后来，我睡在上面，早上我想，也许一个机械师可以修好它，一个真正了解发动机的人。
I pulled into a Quick Tune, and a guy there put it on the scope.
我拉起了快速调音，那里的一个人把它放在瞄准镜上。
His name was Chien from Vietnam.
他的名字叫Chien，来自越南。
He didn't speak a lot of English.
他不会说很多英语。
[SPEAKING VIETNAMESE] He said my EGR valve was working too hard, putting too much oxygen or not enough oxygen into the combustion chamber, but that he'd fixed it by plugging a vacuum hose with a spark plug he'd pulled out of the garbage.
[说越南语]他说我的 EGR 阀工作得太厉害，导致燃烧室中氧气过多或氧气不足，但他用从垃圾中拔出的火花塞塞住真空软管来解决这个问题。
The car more power.
车子动力更足。
Right now more power, OK?
现在更有力量，好吗？
Now, he said, the car had power.
现在，他说，汽车有电了。
And he was right.
他是对的。
The car did have power.
车子确实有电。
I got on Interstate 80 headed toward Sacramento doing 85 miles an hour going back home to Salt Lake City.
我沿着 80 号州际公路前往萨克拉门托，以每小时 85 英里的速度返回盐湖城。
But then in Sacramento, I saw a sign that said US Highway 50, Ocean City, Maryland, 3,073 miles, and I took the exit.
但后来在萨克拉门托，我看到一个标志，上面写着美国 50 号高速公路，马里兰州大洋城，3,073 英里，我就从出口驶出。
3,000 miles.
3,000 英里。
Not that far.
没那么远。
I knew there was a strong possibility that the spark plug in the vacuum line was only a temporary fix and that the engine might lose its power at any moment, and I'd have to walk away from it.
我知道真空管路中的火花塞很可能只是临时修复，发动机可能随时失去动力，我必须离开它。
But it was summer-- the middle of a hot summer-- and I didn't have anything better to do.
但那是夏天——炎热的夏季——我没有更好的事情可做。
Highway 50, where it runs across the Basin and Range, is known as the loneliest road in America.
50号高速公路横贯盆地山脉，被誉为美国最孤独的公路。
It's an old route, probably ancient, first used by white men in 1849 on their way to Sutter's Mill, then the Pony Express and the Overland Stage in the early 1860s.
这是一条古老的路线，可能很古老，1849 年白人首次使用这条路线前往萨特磨坊，然后在 1860 年代初使用 Pony Express 和 Overland Stage。
Mark Twain rode the Overland Stage in 1861, and he hated this particular stretch across the Basin and Range.
1861 年，马克·吐温 (Mark Twain) 登上了陆上舞台 (Overland Stage)，他讨厌这段跨越盆地山脉的特殊路段。
He said it was worse than the horrors of the Sahara.
他说这比撒哈拉沙漠的恐怖还要糟糕。
That's one reason it's so lonely out here.
这就是这里如此孤独的原因之一。
The other is that almost all traffic to the coast now follows Interstate 80 to the north or Interstate 15 to the south leaving this huge open space containing 100 separate mountain ranges and 150 separate basins, sort of like the surface of a golf ball.
另一个原因是，现在几乎所有通往海岸的交通都沿着 80 号州际公路向北行驶，或向南行驶 15 号州际公路，留下了这个巨大的开放空间，其中包含 100 个独立的山脉和 150 个独立的盆地，有点像高尔夫球的表面。
On a clear day, on this part of Highway 50, it's easy to see 50 miles in every direction, sometimes 100.
天气晴朗时，在 50 号高速公路的这一段，您可以轻松地看到各个方向 50 英里（有时甚至 100 英里）的景色。
But it was a summer of forest fires, seven million acres burning throughout the inner mountain west, all caused by dry, violent thunderstorms that blew through in June leaving smoke in their wake.
但那是一个森林火灾频发的夏天，西部内山烧毁了 700 万英亩土地，这一切都是由六月刮过的干燥猛烈的雷暴引起的，留下烟雾。
Then it got hot and windy, and every day just got smokier and smokier to where in the morning and evening you could stare straight at the sun, to where it was like you were living through the final days of a dying planet.
然后天气变得炎热多风，烟雾一天天变得越来越大，在早上和晚上你都可以直视太阳，就像你正在经历一个垂死星球的最后几天。
From the desert of the Basin and Range, Highway 50 enters the desert of the Colorado Plateau through sandstone canyons, like from the Planet of the Apes, across the Green and Colorado rivers and then following the Gunnison River up the Western Slope of the Rockies to Monarch Pass, crossing the Continental Divide at 11,000 feet.
50号公路从盆地和山脉的沙漠出发，穿过砂岩峡谷进入科罗拉多高原的沙漠，就像从猩球崛起一样，穿过格林河和科罗拉多河，然后沿着甘尼森河上落基山脉的西坡到达莫纳克山口，穿越海拔11,000英尺的大陆分水岭。
My truck ran with the check engine soon light blinking on and off, gasping and coughing its way over the pass.
我的卡车在检查发动机的情况下行驶，很快灯就忽明忽灭，气喘吁吁地驶过山口。
But it made it up and over, and from there it was downhill for 100 miles along the Arkansas River-- people in kayaks running the rapids-- to the town of Pueblo on the Eastern Slope of the Rockies looking out at the Great Plains.
但它还是成功了，又翻了一遍，从那里沿着阿肯色河下坡了 100 英里——人们划着皮划艇在急流中奔跑——到达落基山脉东坡的普韦布洛镇，俯瞰着大平原。
I stopped there to see a friend, Albert [?
我在那里停下来见朋友阿尔伯特[？
Pichak ?].
皮查克？]。
We ended up in his backyard where he showed me his rock collection.
我们最后来到了他的后院，他在那里向我展示了他收藏的摇滚乐。
Here's some rainbow obsidian, really beautiful stuff.
这是一些彩虹黑曜石，非常漂亮的东西。
I'll strike a little chunk off if I can find my sandstone.
如果我能找到我的砂岩，我就会敲掉一小块。
OK.
好的。
It's not safe to do this without some sort of protection, because it's very sharp and you can get cut.
在没有某种保护的情况下这样做是不安全的，因为它非常锋利，你可能会被割伤。
See.
看。
You can see the color.
你可以看到颜色。
It's really a beautiful stone.
这确实是一块美丽的石头。
It's a black rock, but at a certain angle to the sun it reflects-- what colors do you see there?
它是一块黑色的岩石，但与太阳成一定角度时它会反射——你在那里看到什么颜色？
Green, blue, purple.
绿色、蓝色、紫色。
Here we go.
开始了。
Is that amazing or what?
这很神奇还是什么？
When I first started flinting that thing, I thought that obsidian came in black and black, you know.
当我第一次开始打燧石时，我以为黑曜石有黑色和黑色，你知道。
It's amazing the colors that you can see.
您所看到的颜色令人惊叹。
I find that it's like a meditative state working with the stone.
我发现这就像与石头一起工作的冥想状态。
It gives me a sense that there's more to everything around us than just-- more to stone than just being an inanimate object, that actually there is energy with it, that when you make something, that energy is transferred to it.
它给我一种感觉，我们周围的一切不仅仅是石头，它不仅仅是一个无生命的物体，它实际上蕴藏着能量，当你制造一些东西时，能量就会转移到它身上。
Albert made me a five inch Clovis spear point, black obsidian that reflected tiny rainbows in each chip and groove, sharp as a razor.
艾伯特给我做了一把五英寸的克洛维斯矛尖，黑色的黑曜石，每个缺口和凹槽都反射出微小的彩虹，像剃刀一样锋利。
I put it on my dashboard hoping its energy would somehow transfer to my engine.
我把它放在仪表板上，希望它的能量能以某种方式转移到我的发动机上。
From the Rocky Mountains, Highway 50 runs across the High Plains in sort of a connect-the-dots between small farming and ranching towns, mainly Hispanic, a landscape once famous for buffalo but is now famous for cantaloupe.
50 号高速公路从落基山脉出发，穿过高地平原，在某种程度上连接了小型农业城镇和牧场城镇，这些城镇主要是西班牙裔，这里曾经以水牛而闻名，但现在以哈密瓜而闻名。
Leaving Pueblo, the weather was partly cloudy, 90 degrees, and low humidity, but it became hotter and more humid with every mile to where in central Kansas it was over 105 and very humid, no clouds, a little wind.
离开普韦布洛时，天气晴间多云，气温为 90 度，湿度较低，但每行驶一英里，天气就会变得更热、更潮湿，堪萨斯州中部的气温超过 105 度，非常潮湿，没有云，有一点风。
And it had been like that for a long time, several weeks anyway.
这种情况已经持续了很长一段时间，至少有几个星期了。
The fields of corn, six and seven feet tall, had turned brown.
六、七英尺高的玉米田已经变成了棕色。
The stocks and the husks around the cobs were dry as a bone.
玉米棒子周围的茎和外皮都干得像骨头一样。
To deal with the heat, I poured water on my clothes and drove with the windows down, and I sought refuge in Walmarts on the edges of the small towns.
为了应对炎热，我把水倒在衣服上，开着车窗，然后到小镇边缘的沃尔玛寻求庇护。
Every town had one, although some towns had Walmart supercenters, a disaster for Main Street, but they were like oases to me.
每个城镇都有一个，虽然有些城镇有沃尔玛超级中心，这对主街来说是一场灾难，但它们对我来说就像绿洲。
I'd go in and get hit by a wave of cold air that was like jumping into a mountain lake.
我一进去，就会被一股冷气袭来，就像跳进了山湖里一样。
It took my breath away.
这让我屏住了呼吸。
I'd take a cart and walk through the aisles selecting items like a sleeping bag, a fishing rod, 100 feet of rope, spray paint, watercolors, a six-quart cooler, power drill, clock radio.
我会推着推车穿过过道，挑选一些物品，比如睡袋、钓鱼竿、100 英尺长的绳子、喷漆、水彩画、六夸脱的冷却器、电钻、时钟收音机。
And then, when the cart was full, I'd backtrack, returning everything to its place on the shelf.
然后，当购物车满了时，我会原路返回，将所有东西放回架子上的位置。
If I concentrated and thought carefully about my selections, the whole process would take a couple of hours.
如果我集中注意力并仔细考虑我的选择，整个过程将需要几个小时。
Then I'd get back on the road and drive through the sweltering heat.
然后我会回到路上，在酷热的天气里开车。
My truck, surprisingly, ran without overheating, but I was so hot, I went brain dead.
令人惊讶的是，我的卡车运行时没有过热，但我太热了，我脑死亡了。
At one point, I found myself off the highway driving along a back road going east, but I couldn't remember how I'd gotten off the highway.
有一次，我发现自己沿着一条向东行驶的小路离开了高速公路，但我不记得我是如何离开高速公路的。
I came to a small town, and there were some cars parked in front of a bar.
我来到一个小镇，一家酒吧前面停着几辆车。
The sign at the bank across the street said it was 106 degrees.
街对面银行的标牌上写着气温为 106 度。
I'm Sam Kennedy, and I live up around Big Springs, and we're in Overbrook, Kansas right now.
我是萨姆·肯尼迪，住在大斯普林斯附近，我们现在在堪萨斯州奥弗布鲁克。
I'm Crystal Kennedy.
我是克里斯托·肯尼迪。
I believe this is our 16th day of over 100 degrees.
我相信这是我们气温超过 100 度的第 16 天。
We haven't had weather like this, they say, since 1936.
他们说，自 1936 年以来，我们还没有遇到过这样的天气。
We're getting pretty well burnt up now, pretty dry.
我们现在已经被烧得很厉害了，非常干燥。
I've got beans that are probably five foot high and they're probably the size of buckshot right now because they've all burnt.
我的豆子可能有五英尺高，现在可能有铅弹那么大，因为它们都烧焦了。
And the chickens are panting.
鸡们都在喘气。
They stick their little slitted tongues out and huff and puff.
他们伸出狭长的小舌头，气喘吁吁。
And my bees, they were just all over the hive last night, and they're trying to keep everything cool in there for the queen.
还有我的蜜蜂，昨晚它们就在蜂巢里到处都是，它们正努力为蜂王保持里面的一切凉爽。
But I'm going to harvest probably this next weekend.
但我可能会在下周末收获。
I'm going to take the honey and start feeding them, because there's no plants here for them to live on.
我要拿蜂蜜来喂它们，因为这里没有植物可供它们生存。
Everything's dried up.
一切都干涸了。
And here we buy all this seed, buy all this fertilizer, buy all this spray to keep everything nice and weed free, and at the end of the year, you take the crops to the elevator and you sell them, and you get this check, and it looks like a really big check.
在这里，我们购买所有这些种子，购买所有这些肥料，购买所有这些喷雾剂，以保持一切良好且没有杂草，到了年底，您将农作物带到电梯并出售它们，然后您会收到这张支票，它看起来像是一张非常大的支票。
But then when you take it to the bank, a lot of times you'll just barely break even.
但当你把钱存到银行时，很多时候你只能勉强收支平衡。
You might have $50 left.
您可能还剩下 50 美元。
So that's when you come over here to this place and drink a few beers and talk to your friends.
所以，当你来到这个地方，喝几瓶啤酒，和你的朋友聊天的时候。
And they're all in the same shape.
而且它们的形状都相同。
Everybody's been the same.
每个人都一样。
I saw two cars spontaneously combust in Kansas.
我在堪萨斯州看到两辆汽车自燃。
They got so hot, they lit on fire and burned, spewing black, toxic smoke from under the hoods.
它们变得非常热，着火并燃烧，从引擎盖下喷出黑色的有毒烟雾。
One was in a parking garage in Lawrence near the Natural History Museum on the university campus.
其中一个位于劳伦斯大学校园自然历史博物馆附近的一个停车场。
The other car exploded on the freeway around Kansas City, two teenage boys in an old Mustang.
另一辆车在堪萨斯城周围的高速公路上爆炸，车上是两名十几岁的男孩，驾驶的是一辆旧野马。
East of Kansas City once over the Missouri River, Highway 50 winds through the hills and forests of the Bible Belt, the Ozarks.
50 号高速公路位于堪萨斯城以东，越过密苏里河，蜿蜒穿过圣经带奥沙克地区的山丘和森林。
Dead turtles upside down and bloating on the side of the road, live rattlesnakes in the churches, bugs frying in the blue light zappers of Sedalia.
路边倒挂着浮肿的死海龟，教堂里有活的响尾蛇，锡代利亚的蓝光灭蚊器里煎着虫子。
Churches with signs out front saying, dusty bibles lead to dirty lives.
教堂门前挂着标语，上面写着：满是灰尘的《圣经》会导致肮脏的生活。
Free trip to heaven.
免费的天堂之旅。
Details inside.
里面有详细资料。
And the crickets or locusts or whatever they were was like a jungle.
蟋蟀、蝗虫什么的，就像一片丛林。
I stopped in Jefferson City at midnight.
午夜时分，我在杰斐逊城停留。
The streets were vacant and smelled from the mud of the Missouri River running just north of the capitol building.
街道空无一人，散发着国会大厦北边密苏里河泥浆的气味。
I tried to go down to the river to sleep, but there was no way to get to it from the city.
我试图下河去睡觉，但从城里没办法去那里。
I ran into fences and thick forests, and so I drove on, stopping at a convenience store to buy three beers which I proceeded to pound back while cruising through a fog.
我撞上了栅栏和茂密的森林，于是我继续前行，在一家便利店停下来买了三瓶啤酒，然后在雾气中行驶时把它们喝了回去。
I beg you, my children, as your mother, your mother's mother, who cries tears of sorrow upon you all, please remember this.
我恳求你们，我的孩子们，作为你们的母亲，你们母亲的母亲，为你们所有人流下悲伤的泪水，请记住这一点。
The time is growing short.
时间越来越短了。
I have wandered throughout earth trying to warn you, my children, depending on a small handful of moral souls to bring these messages to you.
我在地球上徘徊，试图警告你们，我的孩子们，依靠一小撮有道德的灵魂将这些信息带给你们。
But what does he really have?
但他真正拥有什么？
Nothing, because when he wakes up after death, he wakes up in hell.
没什么，因为当他死后醒来时，他会在地狱中醒来。
On the other hand, here's the poor man, Lazarus, who has none of the needs, the physical needs satisfied.
另一方面，这是穷人拉撒路，他没有任何需要，物质需要得到满足。
He lives out of the garbage pail.
他住在垃圾桶外面。
The dogs lick his sores.
狗舔他的疮。
And it looks like the Lord just has forgotten him, absolutely forgotten him.
看来主已经忘记了他，彻底忘记了他。
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE] Cartoon Character --unto them, because it is given unto you to know the mysteries--
【说外语】卡通人物——给他们，因为它让你知道其中的奥秘——
You know that says.
你知道那句话说的。
I can't quote the whole thing, but you know what that says.
我无法引用全部内容，但你知道那是什么意思。
A lot of people-- Oh, I don't understand.
很多人——哦，我不明白。
It's [UNINTELLIGIBLE] so hard, that it [UNINTELLIGIBLE PHRASE] has always had it hard before they came to Christ like myself and others.
[难以理解]是如此困难，以至于[难以理解的短语]在他们像我和其他人一样来到基督面前之前一直都经历着困难。
I understand the example you were giving a few sentences ago about Ethiopia and so forth and so on.
我理解你之前给出的关于埃塞俄比亚等的例子。
I can relate to that.
我可以理解这一点。
I'm black.
我是黑人。
I can relate to that.
我可以理解这一点。
I mean--
我的意思是——
East of St. Louis after the Arch and the Mississippi River, Highway 50 gets crowded.
在圣路易斯以东，经过拱门和密西西比河之后，50 号高速公路变得拥挤不堪。
What was once the loneliest road in America becomes America's Main Street, or that's what I read they call it, and it's appropriate.
曾经美国最孤独的道路变成了美国的大街，或者我读到他们是这么称呼它的，这是恰当的。
Some people might think it quaint to drive through the downtowns of one small town after another, but I was hating it.
有些人可能认为开车穿过一个又一个小镇的市中心很奇怪，但我讨厌它。
There was a lot of traffic, a lot of cops, used car lots, strip malls.
那里交通拥挤，警察很多，二手车停放处，露天购物中心也很多。
Sometimes the highway was a four lane freeway.
有时高速公路是四车道高速公路。
Sometimes it was a neighborhood street running by driveways and front lawns and big houses.
有时它是一条街区街道，有车道、前面的草坪和大房子。
Sometimes it vanished altogether, and I'd find myself on some other road with a different name.
有时它完全消失了，我会发现自己走在另一条不同名字的路上。
And my engine was running like the timing belt had lost its shape, running lean and then running rich.
我的发动机运转得就像正时皮带变形一样，先是稀油运转，然后是浓油运转。
It was giving up, wanting to die, but I pushed it mercilessly scared of being stranded in middle America.
它正在放弃，想要死，但我无情地推着它，害怕被困在美国中部。
I drove and drove, and it was like I wasn't getting anywhere.
我开啊开啊，好像什么也没有到达。
I drove without sleeping.
我开车没睡觉。
It was too warm and sticky to sleep.
天气太热、太粘，睡不着。
Somewhere in Ohio I stopped to talk to a guy who was sitting by the side of the road whittling walking sticks.
在俄亥俄州的某个地方，我停下来与一个坐在路边削手杖的人交谈。
All of these are my sticks.
这些都是我的棍子。
This is apple wood, and this is sourwood.
这是苹果木，这是酸木。
I bought 300 off my brother in '94 and 300 in '97.
我94年从我兄弟那里买了300个，97年又买了300个。
I've bought 780 sticks off of him for the last four years.
过去四年我从他那里买了 780 根棍子。
I've got all different kinds of wood, just about.
我几乎有各种不同种类的木材。
About any kind of wood you name, I've got it.
关于你提到的任何一种木材，我都有。
I've got oak [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
我有橡木[无法理解]。
I've got them all initialed.
我已经把它们全部签上名字了。
I've got the year I've cut them.
我有我剪掉它们的那一年。
And I've got my initial on them.
我在上面有我名字的首字母缩写。
I've got a K on them and I've got them all dated.
我在上面有一个 K，并且都注明了日期。
Now I've bought some that's got carved on.
现在我买了一些有雕刻的。
I don't do no carving.
我不做任何雕刻。
I'm a whittler.
我是一个削刀者。
I call myself a whittler.
我称自己为削刀者。
I'm not a carver.
我不是雕刻师。
I've bought some that's got carved on, but I don't put my initial on them.
我买了一些刻有名字的东西，但我没有在上面写上我的名字首字母。
I don't date them.
我不和他们约会。
Why do you call yourself a whittler instead of a carver?
为什么你称自己为削刀者而不是雕刻者？
Well, because I don't carve faces.
嗯，因为我不雕刻面孔。
I mean, I'm trying to get my son started doing the carving, you see.
我的意思是，我正在努力让我的儿子开始雕刻，你看。
It makes a stick sell better.
它使棍子卖得更好。
But I enjoy doing this.
但我喜欢这样做。
I've been doing it 13 years, so I must have-- I did this eight years.
我已经这样做了 13 年，所以我一定——我已经这样做了 8 年。
I didn't sell many sticks at all, but the last five years I'm well satisfied with what I'm doing.
我根本没有卖掉多少棍子，但过去五年我对自己所做的很满意。
What made the difference in the sales?
是什么造成了销量的差异？
For the first eight years you didn't sell very much and then what happened?
前八年你的销量并不多，然后发生了什么？
Well, the news got out what I do and everybody-- the public is funny.
好吧，新闻报道了我所做的事情，每个人——公众都很有趣。
You'd be surprised how people is.
你会惊讶于人们是怎样的。
I'm not trying to get rich.
我并不是想致富。
I've got $5 sticks there.
我那里有 5 美元的棍子。
I've got $12 in them.
我里面有 12 美元。
I bought three sticks and I sell them three sticks for $10.
我买了三根棍子，然后以 10 美元的价格卖给他们三根棍子。
I spend anywhere from-- well, most usually I'm out here eight o'clock in the morning until eight at night.
我从早上八点到晚上八点在任何地方度过。
I sit here and whittle.
我坐在这里削。
I enjoy it, really, really.
我很享受，真的，真的。
I woke up in a parking lot next to the Ohio River at Clarksburg, West Virginia, a quiet morning.
一个安静的早晨，我在西弗吉尼亚州克拉克斯堡俄亥俄河旁的一个停车场醒来。
The word Ohio comes from an Iroquois word meaning beautiful river, and it was, big and sleepy.
俄亥俄一词源自易洛魁语，意思是美丽的河流，它又大又沉睡。
You grew up here.
你在这里长大。
Man I grew up here.
伙计，我在这里长大。
I love it.
我喜欢它。
That's all I need.
这就是我所需要的。
I was reading in a book that the word Ohio comes from an Indian word, meaning beautiful river.
我在一本书上读到俄亥俄这个词来自印第安词，意思是美丽的河流。
Is that right or is that--
这是对的还是——
That's probably true, because there's a lot of history of Indians up through the whole Mid-Ohio Valley here.
这可能是真的，因为整个俄亥俄中部山谷这里都有印第安人的悠久历史。
There's Indian mounds that go up further north and there's history that goes down south.
那里有向北延伸的印度土丘，也有向南延伸的历史。
My grandmother herself was an Indian.
我的祖母本人就是印度人。
If you was to go into the corn fields after the farmers plow, you can actually find arrowheads, perfectly preserved arrowheads that the Indians made.
如果你在农民犁地后进入玉米地，你实际上可以找到箭头，保存完好的印第安人制作的箭头。
So what tribe-- what tribes are from around here and what tribe are you descended from?
那么，什么部落——这里有哪些部落，你是哪个部落的后裔？
I don't know what tribe.
不知道是什么部落
My father's deceased, but he had mentioned several times and I don't know actually what tribe.
我父亲已经去世了，但他曾多次提到过，但我不知道到底是哪个部落。
I didn't even know my grandmother.
我什至不认识我的祖母。
She was already passed away by the time I was born.
我出生时她已经去世了。
But I know there's definitely history.
但我知道这绝对是有历史的。
I would love to do-- I didn't even know a whole lot about my father, and I wish I knew more about that, too.
我很想做——我什至对我父亲了解不多，我希望我也能了解更多。
From the Ohio River, Highway 50 crosses the Monongahela Valley and then begins winding up through the Allegheny Mountains, following a route originally surveyed by 16-year-old George Washington in 1748.
50 号高速公路从俄亥俄河出发，穿过莫农加希拉山谷，然后开始蜿蜒穿过阿勒格尼山脉，沿着最初由 16 岁的乔治·华盛顿于 1748 年勘察的路线行驶。
He was a friend and employee of Lord Fairfax who used to own this land.
他是费尔法克斯勋爵的朋友和雇员，费尔法克斯勋爵曾经拥有这片土地。
Washington ended up with 30,000 acres from the Potomac to the Ohio, and when he became president, he authorized funding for the construction of what was then called the Northwest Turnpike, which is how Highway 50 began, a route to the Ohio and the wilderness beyond.
华盛顿最终获得了从波托马克河到俄亥俄河的 30,000 英亩土地，当他成为总统时，他授权拨款修建当时所谓的西北收费公路，这就是 50 号高速公路的起点，一条通往俄亥俄河和更远荒野的路线。
Crossing the Alleghenies was more difficult than going over the Rockies.
穿越阿勒格尼山脉比翻越落基山脉更困难。
The road is narrow and winding with a lot of up and down, thick forests, crossing a number of passes, and a lot of logging trucks and coal trucks.
道路狭窄蜿蜒，上下坡较多，森林茂密，穿越多个关口，伐木车、运煤车也不少。
And then my truck was just pitiful.
然后我的卡车就很可怜了。
I'd be going 40 miles an hour, and there'd be a big truck right on my tail trying to get around.
我会以每小时 40 英里的速度行驶，并且会有一辆大卡车紧跟在我后面试图绕过。
In the small town of Mount Storm at the summit of what seemed like the highest mountain, I stopped to take a break and let a coal truck go by and watched an old man mowing his lawn.
在看似最高的山峰山顶的风暴山小镇，我停下来休息，让一辆运煤车驶过，看着一位老人在修剪草坪。
That's a Chief, Lawn Chief, True Value Lawn Chief.
那是酋长，草坪酋长，真正价值的草坪酋长。
That's sold by several local hardware stores in this area.
该地区的几家当地五金店都有销售。
I've owned it for two years.
我已经拥有它两年了。
I start on my outer edge of my property and I make circles inward.
我从我的财产的外边缘开始，向内画圈。
I like to throw my grass one direction all the time-- same direction-- so that I don't mow the same grass over and over.
我喜欢一直把草扔向一个方向——同一个方向——这样我就不会一遍又一遍地割同一片草。
Some people like to mow it over and over.
有些人喜欢一遍又一遍地修剪它。
That's called mulching.
这就是所谓的覆盖。
I don't care much for that.
我不太关心这个。
I killed a small snake over in that area a while ago.
不久前我在那个地区杀死了一条小蛇。
I ran over him with that.
我就这样从他身上碾过去了。
You saw it go under or you heard it get chopped?
你看到它沉没还是听到它被砍断？
I saw him go under.
我看见他沉下去了。
Scott Carrier I drove into Washington, DC in the morning and spent the day walking around the Smithsonian Mall, visiting Kenneth Snelson's tensegrity needle outside the Hirshhorn.
斯科特·卡里尔 (Scott Carrier) 我早上开车前往华盛顿特区，花了一天时间在史密森尼购物中心 (Smithsonian Mall) 周围散步，参观了赫希霍恩 (Hirshhorn) 外肯尼思·斯内尔森 (Kenneth Snelson) 的张拉整体针。
And then, I drove out of the city at night over the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-- all lit up and beautiful-- to Ocean City, Maryland.
然后，我在晚上开车出城，穿过灯火通明、美丽的切萨皮克湾大桥，到达马里兰州的大洋城。
Highway 50 ends there at the boardwalk along the beach, 3,200 miles from the Pacific at San Francisco.
50 号高速公路的终点是沿着海滩的木板路，距旧金山太平洋 3,200 英里。
I slept in my cab.
我睡在出租车里。
In the morning I watched a guy building a giant head of Jesus out of sand on the beach, and then I went swimming.
早上，我看到一个人在海滩上用沙子建造了一个巨大的耶稣头像，然后我就去游泳了。
It was the first time I'd cooled off in days.
这是我几天来第一次冷静下来。
And then, my truck died.
然后，我的卡车坏了。
It spewed out a big, black cloud of exhaust and gave up the ghost.
它喷出一大团黑色的废气，鬼魂消失了。
It was over.
一切都结束了。
I pulled the plates, stuffed my things in a bag, took the stereo and my rainbow obsidian spear point, and left the key in the ignition.
我拉起盘子，把东西塞进包里，拿走音响和我的彩虹黑曜石矛尖，把钥匙留在点火开关里。
It was evening, raining hard, but I was only 2,300 miles from home.
当时是晚上，下着大雨，但我距离家只有 2,300 英里。
Scott Carrier lives in Salt Lake City.
斯科特·卡里尔住在盐湖城。
Coming up, what the park service has against crumbs, and a place that's so hot and humid even the crumbs get sweaty.
接下来，公园管理处会采取什么措施来防止面包屑，而且这个地方又热又湿，甚至面包屑都会出汗。
That's in a minute from Public Radio International when our program continues.
一分钟后，国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
[MUSIC - "SUMMER IN THE CITY" BY BARRY MORROW]
[音乐 - 巴里·莫罗的《城市之夏》]
This is This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose some theme and bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，每周我们的节目都会选择一些主题，并为您带来有关该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's program, We Know What You Did This Summer, stories of mind-altering, body-stopping, torpor-inducing heat.
今天的节目《我们知道你今年夏天做了什么》讲述了改变思想、使身体停止、导致麻木的炎热故事。
We've arrived at Act Two of our program.
我们已经到了节目的第二幕了。
Act Two, It's Not the Heat, It Is the Humility.
第二幕，不是热情，而是谦卑。
During the hottest days of August here in Chicago, Jonathan Goldstein sought out an environment that was yet hotter.
在芝加哥八月最热的日子里，乔纳森·戈尔茨坦寻找一个更热的环境。
It was not hot enough.
天气还不够热。
He sought out yet hotter, and he found a place, the Division Street Russian Bath.
他寻找更热的地方，他找到了一个地方，那就是分区街俄罗斯浴场。
The place is so hot and humid that literally our equipment does not work there-- tape recorders cannot function-- so Jonathan is here to tell the story.
这个地方又热又湿，我们的设备根本无法在那里工作——磁带录音机无法工作——所以乔纳森在这里讲述这个故事。
Jimmy Colucci is sitting bare-chested behind his desk wrapped only in a tiny wet sheet, and there's something about it that says there's a better way to live, a way that's more brazen, more comfortable, and quite frankly, more naked.
吉米·科鲁奇 (Jimmy Colucci) 赤裸着上身坐在办公桌后面，只裹着一张小小的湿床单，这似乎表明有一种更好的生活方式，一种更厚颜无耻、更舒适、坦白说更赤裸的生活方式。
Jimmy's the owner of the Division Street Bath, and his office is right upstairs of the steam.
吉米是Division Street Bath 的老板，他的办公室就在蒸汽楼上。
He's just come up from his daily sweat, and sitting there at his desk dressed only in a sheet, he looks like the guy who does paperwork for the Pharaoh.
他刚刚从每天的汗水中醒来，坐在办公桌前，只穿着床单，看起来就像是为法老做文书工作的人。
When I ask him what makes the heat at his bathhouse so special, he tells me that he provides a heat that's different than anything else offered around the country.
当我问他是什么让他的澡堂的暖气如此特别时，他告诉我，他提供的暖气与全国其他地方提供的暖气不同。
If blindfolded, would he be able to tell his heat from other heat?
如果蒙上眼睛，他能区分自己的热量和其他热量吗？
Absolutely, he says.
绝对是的，他说。
But what about the other kind of heat you hear so much about, I ask.
但我问，你经常听到的另一种热量呢？
The kind that's claustrophobic and unbearable, the kind that causes the elderly to drop like flies and the young to scream at their boyfriends just because they got them the wrong kind of sandwich.
那种让人产生幽闭恐惧症和难以忍受的感觉，那种会让老年人像苍蝇一样倒下，让年轻人因为男朋友吃错了三明治而对他们尖叫的那种。
I don't make that kind of heat, Jimmy answers.
“我不会那么热，”吉米回答。
To better understand the power of this heat, Jimmy sends me down into the steam with a towel, a sheet, and a bar of soap.
为了更好地了解这种热量的力量，吉米用毛巾、床单和肥皂将我送入蒸汽中。
First I shower, the wet sheet around my waist feeling so wrong yet so right.
首先我洗澡，腰间的湿床单感觉很不对劲，但又很舒服。
I ask myself, how does one comport oneself clothed only in a sheet?
我问自己，只穿床单的人会如何表现？
Like a stoic Roman senator?
像一位坚忍的罗马参议员？
A caught lothario shimmying down a boudoir drainpipe?
一个被抓到的妓女在闺房的排水管里晃来晃去？
I decide to clinch one hand around the tied knot and play a situation comedy guy locked out of the house wrapped in a welcome mat.
我决定用一只手握住打好的结，扮演一个裹着欢迎垫被锁在屋外的情境喜剧演员。
The place has the all business utilitarian look of a boiler room, cracked concrete tiles and mildewy wood.
这个地方有着锅炉房、开裂的混凝土瓷砖和发霉的木材的商业实用外观。
And then Jake appears.
然后杰克出现了。
He is a small Jewish man from the old country.
他是一个来自故乡的小个子犹太男人。
He is naked except for his flip flops, gold chain, and sun hat, which he keeps drenched in water.
他全身赤裸，只穿着人字拖、金链子和太阳帽，帽子一直浸在水里。
Last week, I ate a big thing of spinach, Jake informs me by way of introduction.
上周，我吃了很多菠菜，杰克通过介绍的方式告诉我。
I ate like a pig.
我吃得像猪一样。
It gave me diarrhea for two weeks, then they gave me something for that, and now I'm constipated.
它让我腹泻了两周，然后他们给了我一些东西，现在我便秘了。
He pauses a beat to allow the irony to be absorbed.
他停顿了一下，让讽刺的内容被吸收。
When he's not in the bathhouse, Jake wears two hearing aids.
当杰克不在澡堂时，他会戴着两个助听器。
Without them he can't hear a thing, so he talks, and I listen.
没有它们，他什么也听不到，所以他说话，我听。
Over the sound of the shower and the echoing voices, I only catch bits.
在淋浴声和回声中，我只能听到一些零碎的声音。
As we talk, Jake moves closer and closer, and as he does, I slowly, unconsciously inch backwards until finally I'm in a corner under a shower with Jake, and we are chest to chest.
当我们说话时，杰克越来越近，当他这样做时，我慢慢地、无意识地向后退了一步，直到最后我和杰克一起在一个角落里洗澡，我们胸部贴着胸部。
Even though his mouth is only a couple of inches from my ear, I continue to catch only pieces of what he's saying-- 45 years, the heat, four shots of whiskey after the shevitz, seven, eight rubs I used to rub, the heat.
尽管他的嘴距离我的耳朵只有几英寸，但我仍然只能听到他说的话——45年，炎热，谢维茨酒后喝四杯威士忌，我过去常常摩擦的七八次，炎热。
I can't remember the last time I spoke to anyone so close, but Jake's so comfortable with it that it makes me comfortable, too.
我不记得上次与如此亲密的人交谈是什么时候了，但杰克对此感到如此自在，这让我也感到自在。
People just don't talk like this anymore.
人们不再这样说话了。
It makes me feel like I'm in an old photograph.
这让我感觉自己就像在一张旧照片中。
The water falls down on us and it's like we're two sleep walkers bumping into each other in the summer rain of the shtetl.
水落在我们身上，就像我们是两个梦游者在小镇的夏日雨中相互碰撞。
It all feels dreamy and long ago, and Jake's taken me there, and I'm glad I'm with him.
这一切都感觉很梦幻，很久以前，杰克带我去了那里，我很高兴和他在一起。
Right here, this is life stripped of all the fat.
就在这里，这就是被剥夺了所有脂肪的生活。
It's the best part of being at the gym, a good sweat without any of the exercise.
这是在健身房最好的部分，无需任何锻炼即可出汗。
It's probably even the best part of prison, the showers and the fresh soap.
这甚至可能是监狱里最好的部分，淋浴和新鲜的肥皂。
I'd even go so far as to say that this would be the best part of hell as you step into the first blast of soothing womb-like heat.
我什至可以说，当你踏入第一股舒缓子宫般的热浪时，这将是地狱中最好的部分。
So we sit and we sweat.
所以我们坐着，流汗。
It's what we do.
这就是我们所做的。
It's like we have an assembly line production going.
就像我们有一条流水线生产一样。
We sit all hunched over with our brows knit.
我们弓着背坐着，眉头紧锁。
We stare down at the floor with a ponderous, quiet intensity.
我们低头凝视着地板，表情沉重而安静。
We are engaged in serious business.
我们正在从事严肃的工作。
Sweating makes us feel productive, like we're doing good work down here, getting things accomplished.
出汗让我们感觉富有成效，就像我们在这里做得很好，完成了任务。
Jake's younger son, Willy, calls me over.
杰克的小儿子威利叫我过去。
He's giving a large, hairy man a massage with an oak leaf brush and wants me to see.
他正在用橡树叶刷给一个身材高大、毛茸茸的男人按摩，想让我看看。
Have you ever seen a real Russian-style massage, asks Willy, as the naked, 300-pound man lying on his back that he's attending to obligingly raises his legs in the air like a baby about to be diapered.
“你见过真正的俄罗斯式按摩吗？”威利问道，他正在照顾的那个赤身裸体、重达 300 磅的男人仰面躺着，他殷勤地将双腿举在空中，就像一个即将换尿布的婴儿一样。
Willy lifts the brush over his shoulder and brings it down between the man's legs over and over.
威利把刷子举过肩膀，一遍又一遍地把它放在男人的两腿之间。
He does this with a kind of casualness that suggests whipping a naked man in the privates is the most normal thing in the world.
他这样做的方式很随意，这表明鞭打裸体男人的私处是世界上最正常的事情。
And I watch them completely and utterly freaked out, which is, I think, the result Willy was going for.
我看着他们，完全被吓坏了，我想，这就是威利想要的结果。
The men in the bathhouse watch the massaged one get massaged like it's TV, like they're watching an infomercial when there's nothing else better on.
澡堂里的男人们看着被按摩的人被按摩，就像看电视一样，就像他们在看电视广告，而没有其他更好的节目了。
And then suddenly-- and by suddenly, I mean not suddenly, because everything down there happens as though submerged in cherry sauce-- they are all pitching in, and you can't tell who works there and who doesn't.
然后突然——我说的突然，不是突然，因为下面的一切都像浸在樱桃酱里一样——他们都在投入，你分不清谁在那里工作，谁不在那里工作。
They're all over some guy just for the thrill of doing the job right.
他们迷恋某个人只是为了获得做好工作的快感。
And then there's the buckets.
然后是水桶。
Sitting in the heat, the old men take old-fashioned buckets of ice cold water and dump them over each other's heads to cool down.
坐在炎热的天气里，老人们拿着老式的桶装冰水，把它们倒在彼此的头上降温。
Seeing this is like stumbling into a long running performance of the world's oldest joke.
看到这一点就像是无意中陷入了世界上最古老的笑话的长期表演中。
It reminds me of how, when I was seven, my grandfather in a remnant of such old country playfulness dumped a bucket of garden hose water over my head at a family barbecue, and how I spent the rest of the afternoon all traumatized and generally spazzed out vowing never again to trust anyone over 75.
这让我想起，当我七岁的时候，我的祖父在一次家庭烧烤时，怀着古老的乡村乐趣，把一桶花园软管的水倒在我的头上，而我整个下午剩下的时间都受到了创伤，通常发誓再也不会相信任何超过 75 岁的人。
Jake and his sons invite me upstairs to eat with them.
杰克和他的儿子们邀请我上楼和他们一起吃饭。
Dressed only in our sheets and towels, we sit around a table in the dining room off the locker room, and we eat.
我们只穿着床单和毛巾，围坐在更衣室外餐厅的一张桌子旁吃饭。
Eating bare-chested at home by yourself makes you feel like you've simply given up on life, but eating bare-chested in a room full of other bare-chested men makes you feel like a Greek god among other Greek gods.
一个人在家里赤裸上身吃饭会让你觉得自己已经放弃了生活，但在一个满是赤裸上身的男人的房间里赤裸上身吃饭会让你感觉自己像希腊众神中的希腊神。
Jake pulls out a plastic container of homemade herring.
杰克拿出一个装有自制鲱鱼的塑料容器。
I made that, he says poking his finger into the piece on my plate.
这是我做的，他把手指伸进我盘子里的那块肉里说道。
We pass around bread and club soda, big silver bowls of salad-- steam bath salad it's called in the menu posted on the wall.
我们递上面包、苏打水、大碗沙拉——墙上贴的菜单上叫蒸汽浴沙拉。
There's also one called the garbage salad.
还有一种叫做垃圾沙拉。
These are the kinds of names men give to things.
这些是人们给事物起的名字。
This is what all of life would be like if it were a world of only men.
如果这是一个只有男人的世界，那么所有的生活都会是这个样子。
In a world of such men, a Havarti with sprouts on oat bread would be called a foot sandwich.
在这样的人的世界里，燕麦面包上加豆芽的哈瓦蒂奶酪将被称为脚三明治。
There's simply too much work to be done and no time to invent clever names.
有太多的工作要做，而且没有时间发明聪明的名字。
Give me two feet and a side of garbage, they might say after a 15-hour day of raking farm soil with their fingers.
在一天 15 小时用手指耙农田土壤后，他们可能会说，给我两英尺和一侧的垃圾。
We watch a Clint Eastwood movie on an enormous screen.
我们在巨大的屏幕上观看克林特·伊斯特伍德的电影。
We read magazines while talking about other movies.
我们一边看杂志，一边谈论其他电影。
We let our stomachs pour over what would, that we were wearing pants, be our belt buckles.
我们让胃倒在我们穿裤子的皮带扣上。
It is a world governed entirely by testosterone.
这是一个完全由睾丸激素统治的世界。
Oh, I'm not talking about the chest pounding, loud-mouthed testosterone that gets so much press these days.
哦，我说的不是现在受到如此多媒体关注的胸闷、大声的睾丸激素。
I'm talking about the other kind of maleness, the gentler, more utilitarian maleness.
我说的是另一种男性气质，更温和、更功利的男性气质。
The unselfconsciously picking the teeth with a playing card to get out the last stringy bits of roast beef kind of maleness.
不自觉地用扑克牌剔牙，剔除烤牛肉最后的粘稠部分，这就是一种男性气概。
An old man passes our table on his way downstairs.
一位老人下楼时经过我们的桌子。
How's the heat, he asks.
他问，天气怎么样？
Hot, I answer.
热，我回答。
You think this is hot?
你觉得这很热吗？
Wait till the Russians come, says Shelley.
雪莱说，等到俄罗斯人来。
He lifts the sheet from around his waist and wipes his mouth with it.
他掀起腰间的床单，用它擦了擦嘴。
I've been hearing this all day.
我一整天都在听这个。
Everywhere I turn people are talking about the Russians.
无论我走到哪里，人们都在谈论俄罗斯人。
They're masochists, says a graying fire hydrant named Seymour.
“他们是受虐狂，”一个名叫西摩的灰色消防栓说。
Where's the enjoyment in breathing 180 degree heat, demands a water buffalo of a man named Yussy.
呼吸 180 度高温的乐趣在哪里？一个名叫尤西（Yussy）的人要求一头水牛。
When the Russians come, the insides of your nostrils will feel like lit match sticks.
当俄罗斯人来的时候，你的鼻孔里面会感觉像点燃的火柴棍。
It has to do damage to the bronchial passage.
它必须对支气管通道造成损害。
I'm told they come on Fridays, and I decide to go, too.
我听说他们周五来，我也决定去。
It suddenly feels as though all the facts of my life have been leading up to the moment where I pass out in a scorching room full of naked Russians.
突然感觉好像我生命中的所有事实都在导致我在一个满是裸体俄罗斯人的灼热房间里昏倒的那一刻。
What should I do to prepare, I ask.
我问，我应该做什么准备？
Go home, turn on the oven, and stick your head in, someone says.
有人说，回家，打开烤箱，把头伸进去。
I imagine them descending the stairs, these Russians, single file, slapping each other on the back, rolling hot coals between their fingers, each one manning a different thermostat.
我想象他们走下楼梯，这些俄罗斯人排成一列，互相拍打对方的背，用手指滚动热煤，每个人都操作着不同的恒温器。
They pass buckets of water down the line like they're sandbagging a dam.
他们将一桶桶的水沿着管道传递，就像他们在大坝上装沙袋一样。
They throw heat like gods, like bolts of heartburn.
他们像神一样散发出热量，就像一阵阵胃灼热。
You can't touch your own skin without leaving finger-sized welts.
你无法触摸自己的皮肤而不留下手指大小的伤痕。
I imagine winning them over with my amiable taunts.
我想象着用我和蔼可亲的嘲讽赢得他们的支持。
It's like a refrigerator in here, I'll say.
我会说，这里就像一台冰箱。
Perhaps we should build some shelves to store open jars of mayonnaise.
也许我们应该建造一些架子来存放打开的蛋黄酱罐。
Had I known you gentlemen came here for the tepidness and not the heat, I would have brought a cup of hot cocoa and a shawl to drape across my lap.
如果我知道你们来这里是为了温热而不是炎热，我就会带一杯热可可和一条披肩披在我的腿上。
So I come back on Friday to see the Russians, and it's hotter, but only moderately so.
所以我周五回来看俄罗斯人，天气更热了，但只是中等程度。
The men sit around with the same indifference.
男人们同样冷漠地坐着。
An old man, who I'd like to think is Russian, sits in the corner brushing his teeth with his finger.
一位老人，我想他是俄罗斯人，坐在角落里用手指刷牙。
And then something positively strange happens.
然后发生了一些非常奇怪的事情。
As I sit there wondering if the old man in the corner will pluck a hair from his head and finish off his teeth with a good and proper flossing, out of the steam emerges the tall, naked body of the Reverend Jesse Jackson, and no one gives him a second glance.
当我坐在那里，想知道角落里的老人是否会拔掉头上的一根头发，并用良好而正确的牙线清洁牙齿时，从蒸汽中出现了杰西·杰克逊牧师高大、赤裸的身体，没有人再看他第二眼。
Bath people truly don't give a crap, and even if they did, it would be too hot to do anything about anyway.
巴斯人真的不在乎，即使他们不在乎，反正也太热了，无能为力。
They treat Jackson in the same way they treat everyone, with a pleasant indifference.
他们对待杰克逊就像对待每个人一样，带着一种愉快的冷漠。
They watch as Agi, one of the paid masseurs, works him over in much the way they watch anyone else getting massaged, but perhaps out of respect they do not pitch in.
他们看着阿吉（一名付费按摩师）为他按摩，就像他们看着其他人接受按摩一样，但也许出于尊重，他们没有参与其中。
And afterwards, in the dining area, the Reverend has to wait for service like everybody else.
之后，在用餐区，牧师必须像其他人一样等待服务。
He stands naked at the counter trying to catch the cook's eye.
他赤身裸体地站在柜台前，试图引起厨师的注意。
The cook sees him and continues to stir his massive pot of soup, and then finally, he comes over.
厨师看到他，继续搅拌他那一大锅汤，最后，他走了过来。
I'd like a cheese toast, says Jackson.
“我想要一块奶酪吐司，”杰克逊说。
Grilled cheese, answers the chef pointing to the menu.
烤奶酪，厨师指着菜单回答道。
Cheese, repeats Jackson, with toast.
杰克逊重复道，奶酪和吐司。
Grilled cheese, assures the chef.
烤奶酪，厨师保证。
I find out afterwards that Jackson often comes to the bathhouse.
后来我发现杰克逊经常来澡堂。
In fact, I'm told, that when he got back from Bosnia, he came in for a sweat, and as he passed through the dining room, 20 odd men in their sheets and bath towels all rose up and without saying a thing, gave him a standing ovation.
事实上，我听说，当他从波斯尼亚回来时，他进来出了一身汗，当他穿过餐厅时，20多个穿着床单和浴巾的男人都站了起来，什么也没说，起立为他鼓掌。
And then, wordlessly, they went back to their meals.
然后，他们一言不发地回去吃饭了。
When I leave the bathhouse, the 90 degree heat outside feels surprisingly cool and refreshing.
出了澡堂，外面90度的高温让人感觉出奇的凉爽。
It's the middle of August in Chicago, and yet the streets feel air conditioned.
现在是芝加哥的八月中旬，但街道上却感觉有空调。
It's like being freed from a sweat box into a less intense sweat box, and I am inured.
这就像从汗箱中解放出来，进入一个不太强烈的汗箱，我已经习惯了。
I stroll home feeling comfortable and good.
我漫步回家，感觉舒适又美好。
As I round the corner onto my street, I see the fire hydrant across from my house is open, and neighborhood kids are jumping around in the stream.
当我拐过街角来到街道上时，我看到我家对面的消防栓打开了，邻居的孩子们在小溪里跳来跳去。
Brothers carry their sisters kicking and laughing into the water.
兄弟们抱着姐妹们又踢又笑地下水。
Little kids run out in their pajamas.
小孩子们穿着睡衣跑了出去。
At home, my girlfriend, Heather, has just put her daughter, Arizona, to bed.
在家里，我的女朋友希瑟刚刚让她的女儿亚利桑那上床睡觉。
If we wake her, she'll probably remember it for the rest of her life, I say.
我说，如果我们叫醒她，她可能会终生记住这件事。
And so, we wake up Arizona.
所以，我们唤醒了亚利桑那州。
Outside on the street, Heather says she's never actually seen an open fire hydrant except for in the movies.
希瑟说，在外面的街道上，除了在电影中，她从未真正见过开放式消防栓。
When she says this, it makes me realize the same thing.
当她这么说的时候，我也意识到了同样的事情。
Arizona rubs the sleep from her eyes and runs into the flood in her little nightgown.
亚利桑那揉了揉眼睛里的睡意，穿着小睡衣跑进了洪水里。
She jumps in beside a large woman bathing a small dog with her dress lifted to her knees.
她跳到一位身材高大的女人旁边，她正在给一只小狗洗澡，衣服拉到膝盖。
It feels like the whole city is getting cool for a while, and Arizona doesn't know where to start.
感觉整个城市一时间都变凉了，亚利桑那州不知道从哪里开始。
Jonathan Goldstein is one of the producers of our program and the author of a funny and kind of great novel called Lenny Bruce Is Dead.
乔纳森·戈尔茨坦是我们节目的制作人之一，也是一本有趣而伟大的小说《莱尼·布鲁斯已死》的作者。
[MUSIC - "IT'S TOO DARN HOT" BY ELLA FITZGERALD]
[音乐 - 艾拉·菲茨杰拉德的《太热了》]
Well, Act Three, You Can Have Your Cave and Eat There Too.
好吧，第三幕，你可以拥有你的洞穴并在那里吃饭。
So it's over 90 degrees outside.
所以外面的温度超过90度。
If you simply head under the earth into a massive cavern, the temperature drops to a comfortable 56 degrees.
如果您只是进入地下一个巨大的洞穴，温度就会降至舒适的 56 度。
For a refreshing change to end this rather sticky and overheated edition of our program, Sarah Vowell headed into such a cave.
为了以令人耳目一新的改变来结束这个相当粘稠和过热的节目版本，莎拉·沃威尔走进了这样一个洞穴。
I am a rube who reads guide books.
我是一个看导游书的乡巴佬。
That's how I learned that the Old Faithful Inn at Yellowstone National Park is the world's largest log structure, and that one may sit on its balcony and sip a gin and tonic while watching Old Faithful spout off.
这就是我如何了解到黄石国家公园的老忠实泉旅馆是世界上最大的木结构建筑，人们可以坐在它的阳台上，一边喝着杜松子酒和补品，一边看着老忠实泉喷涌而出。
Another guidebook tipped me off that visitors to Theodore Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota may partake in the nearby towns Pitchfork Fondue, in which rib eye steaks are speared on the end of pitch forks and dunked in barrels of boiling oil.
另一本旅游指南向我透露，前往北达科他州西奥多·罗斯福国家公园的游客可能会参加附近城镇的干草叉火锅，其中将肋眼牛排用干草叉的末端叉开，然后浸入滚烫的油桶中。
Crispy, theatrical meat as the sun goes down over the Badlands.
当太阳在荒原上落下时，肉质酥脆，充满戏剧性。
In this fondness for these things, I am not alone, for I have sat on picnic tables among my countrymen, some of whom stood down the Nazis, and we smile at the landscape and at one another, the grease trickling onto our souvenir T-shirts.
对这些东西有这种喜爱的人并不孤单，因为我和我的同胞一起坐在野餐桌上，其中一些人反抗了纳粹，我们对着风景和彼此微笑，油脂滴在我们的纪念 T 恤上。
Paging through a guidebook entry on New Mexico's Carlsbad Caverns National Park, the words Underground Lunchroom caught my eye.
翻阅新墨西哥州卡尔斯巴德洞穴国家公园的旅游指南条目时，“地下午餐室”一词引起了我的注意。
The Lunchroom is smack dab in the middle of the caverns, 750 feet underground.
午餐室正好位于地下 750 英尺的洞穴中央。
The guidebook warned, to modern eyes this strange installation seems absurd, but moves to close it down have been stymied by its place in popular affections.
旅游指南警告说，在现代人看来，这个奇怪的装置似乎很荒谬，但由于它在民众中的受欢迎程度，关闭它的行动受到了阻碍。
As I would come to find out, it is a restaurant so oddly placed that it requires an act of Congress repeated every year to keep it going.
我后来发现，这是一家位置如此奇怪的餐厅，以至于每年都需要国会重复一项法案才能维持下去。
$13.73.
13.73 美元。
Would you like any barbecue or sweet and sour sauce for your chicken?
您想要为您的鸡肉加烧烤酱或糖醋酱吗？
Um, barbecue please.
嗯，请烧烤。
If the geological marvels of Carlsbad Caverns came into being in the time before history, the Underground Lunchroom represents the time before arugula.
如果说卡尔斯巴德洞穴的地质奇观是在历史之前出现的，那么地下餐厅则代表了芝麻菜之前的时代。
First established in 1926, the Lunchroom was renovated in the 1970s and it shows.
餐厅始建于 1926 年，在 20 世纪 70 年代进行了翻修，可见其面貌。
The food and souvenir stations are housed in sandy, brown booths that remind me of the drive-thru bank architecture of my childhood.
食品和纪念品站位于沙质、棕色的摊位中，让我想起了童年时的汽车餐厅银行建筑。
The food-- box lunches of cold chicken or ham sandwiches, wedges of pie in plastic wedge-shaped containers-- is the sort of fare my grade school washed down with Shasta cola on the Freedom Train field trip in '76.
食物——冷鸡肉或火腿三明治的盒装午餐，塑料楔形容器中的楔形馅饼——是我小学 76 年自由列车实地考察时用 Shasta 可乐冲下的食物。
Not long after the bicentennial, middle Americans started eating better and dressing better and calling nature the environment, but the Underground Lunchroom is a throwback to our unpretentious if unenlightened past.
二百周年纪念日后不久，美国中产阶级开始吃得更好，穿得更好，并将自然称为环境，但地下餐厅却是对我们朴实无华的过去的一种倒退。
The National Park Service wanted to get rid of it.
国家公园管理局想要摆脱它。
In 1991, they began an environmental assessment of the Lunchroom.
1991 年，他们开始对餐厅进行环境评估。
Money was spent, scientists conferred, it took two years, and sadly for them, they were unable to find any conclusive evidence that food particles, Freon gas in the refrigerators, or the use of microwave ovens were harming the ecosystem and climate of the cave.
科学家们承认，花了两年的时间，但遗憾的是，他们无法找到任何确凿的证据来证明食物颗粒、冰箱中的氟利昂气体或微波炉的使用正在损害洞穴的生态系统和气候。
In fact, all sorts of things pose a bigger ecological threat to the cave than the Lunchroom does, like the existence of lights, of an elevator, of actual bacteria carrying tourists with their lint-covered clothing.
事实上，各种各样的东西对洞穴造成的生态威胁都比午餐室更大，比如灯光、电梯的存在，以及携带游客穿着沾有绒毛的衣服的实际细菌。
In the end, the reason the Park Service wants to close the Lunchroom doesn't have to do with science.
最后，公园管理局想要关闭午餐室的原因与科学无关。
It has to do with aesthetics.
这和审美有关系。
In the years since the Lunchroom was built, we as a people have gone through a grand tectonic shift in the way we think about National Parks.
自午餐室建成以来，我们作为一个民族对国家公园的看法经历了巨大的结构性转变。
Basically, we don't believe in putting crap in the middle of nature anymore.
基本上，我们不再相信将垃圾放入大自然中。
And we believe in taking out as much of the old crap as we can.
我们相信要尽可能多地剔除旧的垃圾。
This was codified in a 1991 Park Service policy called the Vail Agenda, which clearly states, "The National Park Service should use existing authority to remove wherever possible unnecessary facilities."
这被编入 1991 年公园管理局的政策，称为“韦尔议程”，其中明确指出，“国家公园管理局应利用现有权力，尽可能拆除不必要的设施。”
Well, we're standing at the big room junction.
嗯，我们正站在大房间的交界处。
This is where the natural entrance--
这就是自然入口——
It's the aesthetics of all this that Ed Green talks about when we walk through the cavern and he makes the case for the removal of the Lunchroom.
当我们穿过洞穴时，埃德·格林谈到了这一切的美学，他提出了拆除午餐室的理由。
Green is in charge of visitor services at Carlsbad Caverns National Park.
格林负责卡尔斯巴德洞穴国家公园的游客服务。
He contributed to that environmental study.
他对环境研究做出了贡献。
And he spends so much time underground amidst the marvels of the cavern that he has a separate name for the world that you and I inhabit.
他在地下的洞穴奇观中度过了如此多的时间，以至于他为你和我所居住的世界起了一个单独的名字。
He calls that world the surface world.
他称那个世界为地表世界。
It's hard to describe this for someone who can't see it, because there's nothing in the surface world experience that prepares people to see something like this.
对于看不到它的人来说很难描述这一点，因为表面世界的经验中没有任何东西可以让人们准备好看到这样的东西。
It just is unlike anything else on earth.
它与地球上的其他任何东西都不同。
There will be times that I will intentionally-- if I'm having a rough day or something is getting under my skin a little bit, I'll just intentionally come down in the cave and find a place just to sit and kind of soak this up.
有时我会故意——如果我度过了艰难的一天，或者有什么事情让我有些不舒服，我会故意来到山洞里，找个地方坐下来吸收这一切。
This resource and this kind of beauty keeps me humble and keeps me on the right path to do the things that I need to be doing here.
这种资源和这种美丽让我保持谦虚，让我走在正确的道路上做我需要在这里做的事情。
Nobody created Carlsbad Caverns so that they could have lunch 750 feet underground.
没有人建造卡尔斯巴德洞穴是为了让他们可以在地下 750 英尺的地方吃午餐。
If you walk down through the natural entrance, what you are experiencing is this natural creation, and then as you exit out of that area and you walk into this area, there's a stark contrast.
如果你从自然入口往下走，你所体验到的就是这种自然创造，然后当你走出那个区域和走进这个区域时，就会有一个鲜明的对比。
You know, that's the first thing you see when you walk out.
你知道，这是你走出去时看到的第一件事。
You're coming to one of the world's great natural attractions, one of the greatest attractions in all creation, and what do you see?
您即将来到世界上最伟大的自然景点之一，所有造物中最伟大的景点之一，您看到了什么？
Something not unlike maybe a mall somewhere.
与某个地方的购物中心没什么不同。
If the Park Service reasoning for removing the Underground Lunchroom is essentially an aesthetic argument, the main reason to save the Lunchroom is equally aesthetic.
如果说公园管理局拆除地下餐厅的理由本质上是出于美学考虑，那么保留餐厅的主要原因同样是出于美学考虑。
Namely, it's cool to eat lunch in a cave.
也就是说，在山洞里吃午饭很酷。
You can also mail a postcard from the Lunchroom and stamp it, mailed 750 feet underground.
您还可以从午餐室邮寄一张明信片并贴上邮票，邮寄到地下 750 英尺处。
It's entertaining to mail a postcard in a cave.
在山洞里寄明信片很有趣。
The Lunchroom even has a bank of pay phones.
午餐室甚至还有一堆公用电话。
Why would you need to make a telephone call from the cave?
为什么需要从山洞里打电话？
Well, you wouldn't need to.
好吧，你不需要。
You might do it because it's fun, and you're on vacation, and you're at a place with the word park in its name.
你这样做可能是因为这很有趣，而且你正在度假，而且你在一个名字中有“公园”一词的地方。
The Carlsbad business community partly depends on vacationers for their livelihood.
卡尔斯巴德商业界部分依赖度假者维持生计。
So when the National Park Service announced their plans to remove the Underground Lunchroom, the Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce opposed them.
因此，当国家公园管理局宣布拆除地下餐厅的计划时，卡尔斯巴德商会表示反对。
Gary Perkowski is the mayor of Carlsbad.
加里·佩尔科斯基 (Gary Perkowski) 是卡尔斯巴德市市长。
Like a lot of locals, he also worked in the Underground Lunchroom as a teenager.
和许多当地人一样，他十几岁时也在地下餐厅工作过。
He was one of the people from Carlsbad who argued the Lunchroom's merits before one of New Mexico's congressman, Representative Joe Skeen.
他是来自卡尔斯巴德的在新墨西哥州国会议员乔·斯基恩（Joe Skeen）面前论证午餐室的优点的人之一。
Well, I think Representative Skeen has always been on our side, and he works very closely with the leaders of Carlsbad on numerous projects.
嗯，我认为斯基恩代表一直站在我们这一边，他在许多项目上与卡尔斯巴德的领导人密切合作。
And we just went to Washington, explained our position, and what we thought, and he agreed with us.
我们刚刚去了华盛顿，解释了我们的立场和想法，他同意我们的观点。
That's it?
就是这样？
Gary Perkowski That's basically it.
加里·珀科斯基 基本上就是这样。
He agreed with our position and did everything he could to make sure that that was implemented.
他同意我们的立场，并尽一切努力确保这一立场得到落实。
I'll say.
我会说。
I read to you now from the following legislation prepared by Representative Skeen's committee.
我现在向大家宣读斯基恩众议员委员会起草的以下立法。
"According to HR 2217, the Department of the Interior and related agencies appropriations act for fiscal year 2002, section 307, none of the funds made available by this act may be obligated or expended by the National Park Service to enter into or implement a concession contract which permits or requires the removal of the Underground Lunchroom at the Carlsbad Caverns National Park."
“根据 HR 2217、内政部和相关机构 2002 财政年度拨款法第 307 条，国家公园管理局不得有义务或花费该法提供的任何资金来签订或实施允许或要求拆除卡尔斯巴德洞穴国家公园地下餐厅的特许权合同。”
That is the same language that has appeared in every appropriations bill since 1994, and what it means is that the National Park Service is barred from using federal funds to close down the Underground Lunchroom.
自 1994 年以来，每一项拨款法案中都出现了同样的措辞，这意味着国家公园管理局不得使用联邦资金关闭地下餐厅。
Calls to Representative Skeen's office for comment were not returned.
记者致电斯基恩众议员办公室寻求置评，但未得到回复。
The National Park Service is obeying the will of Congress, but you don't get the feeling they're all that happy about it.
国家公园管理局正在遵守国会的意愿，但你不会感觉到他们对此感到那么高兴。
If the Park Service were a person, the Underground Lunchroom would be one of the dumb mistakes it made as a kid.
如果公园管理局是一个人，那么地下餐厅将是它小时候犯下的愚蠢错误之一。
It's like Congress is telling it that it not only cannot remove the tattoo it got one drunken night in the '20s, it has to invite 300,000 people a year to look at it.
就好像国会告诉它，它不仅不能去除20世纪20年代一个醉酒之夜留下的纹身，而且每年必须邀请30万人来观看它。
And that's how a lot of employees think about it, too, as a youthful gaffe.
很多员工也这么认为，认为这是年轻人的失态。
Cave specialist, Ron Kerbo, who was one of the authors of the study calling for the Lunchroom's abolition, remembers going there when he was little.
洞穴专家罗恩·科博 (Ron Kerbo) 是这项呼吁废除午餐室的研究的作者之一，他记得小时候去过那里。
Like any eight year old, I thought it was pretty interesting to be able to eat in the cave, and I particularly remember the pickles.
像任何八岁的孩子一样，我认为能够在山洞里吃饭非常有趣，而且我特别记得泡菜。
They used to have these shelves with these little paper cup things, little small paper cups with pickles in them, and you could eat as many of those as you wanted.
他们过去的架子上放着这些小纸杯东西，小纸杯里装着泡菜，你想吃多少就吃多少。
So I was always very fond of eating the pickles in the Underground Lunchroom.
所以我一直很喜欢吃地下食堂的泡菜。
Still, he says, there's no reason for the Lunchroom today.
不过，他说，今天没有理由去餐厅。
Food is available to tourists in a restaurant that's just 57 seconds away by elevator.
乘电梯仅需 57 秒即可到达一家餐厅，为游客提供食物。
And for all the visitors who enter the cavern through the elevator, the Lunchroom is the first and the last thing that they see.
对于所有通过电梯进入洞穴的游客来说，餐厅是他们首先看到的也是最后看到的东西。
In that environment, it seems to me, eating in the Lunchroom mars the visitors' experience in the cave.
在我看来，在那种环境下，在午餐室吃饭会损害游客在洞穴中的体验。
And when you were eight years old, did you feel marred?
当你八岁的时候，你感到受伤了吗？
Well, yes, as a child, I ate in there, and I enjoyed it, and I did remember it, but I have moved on.
嗯，是的，小时候，我在那里吃饭，我很享受它，我确实记得它，但我已经继续前进了。
And the great thing that the National Parks teach us is that, if we are attuned to these natural processes, then we can move on.
国家公园教给我们的伟大的事情是，如果我们适应这些自然过程，那么我们就可以继续前进。
If your only memory of Carlsbad Cavern is eating in the Lunchroom, then you have missed the essence of the experience.
如果您对卡尔斯巴德洞穴的唯一记忆就是在午餐室吃饭，那么您就错过了体验的精髓。
Everything he's saying is true, but when I got off the phone with him, I was really frustrated because my only possible counter argument is that the Underground Lunchroom is really neat.
他说的一切都是真的，但当我和他挂断电话时，我真的很沮丧，因为我唯一可能反驳的论点是地下餐厅真的很整洁。
And what's the dignity in that?
那还有什么尊严呢？
Since the Lunchroom does no significant harm to the cavern's ecology, I'd like to believe that this is one of those lucky places where we don't have to choose between doing the right thing and enjoying a goof.
由于午餐室对洞穴的生态没有造成重大损害，我愿意相信这是那些幸运的地方之一，我们不必在做正确的事情和享受愚蠢之间做出选择。
I spent a couple hours walking down through the caverns, and this is what I saw.
我花了几个小时穿过洞穴，这就是我所看到的。
I saw 14 football fields of treasures, things with names like Witch's Finger, Totem Pole, Mirror Lake, formations described as popcorn and soda straws in places called the Boneyard or the Hall of Giants.
我看到了 14 个足球场大小的宝藏，这些东西的名字包括女巫的手指、图腾柱、镜湖，在被称为“埋骨场”或“巨人大厅”的地方被描述为爆米花和苏打吸管。
I don't know how to describe the magnificence of Carlsbad Caverns without making it sound like a cartoon or a drug trip or a cartoon of a drug trip.
我不知道如何描述卡尔斯巴德洞穴的壮丽，而又不使它听起来像一部卡通片或一部毒品之旅或一部毒品之旅的卡通片。
The only thing I can say is that it is one of those dear places that make you love the world.
我唯一能说的是，它是那些让你热爱这个世界的可爱地方之一。
So when I came to the end of the last trail, I wasn't quite ready to say goodbye to the cave.
所以当我走到最后一条小路的尽头时，我还没有准备好告别洞穴。
I felt all dreamy, and I didn't want the feeling to end.
我感觉一切如梦似幻，我不想让这种感觉结束。
I look up at the ceiling of the Lunchroom, which is, of course, the ceiling of the cave.
我抬头看着餐厅的天花板，当然，也就是洞穴的天花板。
It looks so lunar I can't help but think of a certain astronaut.
它看起来太像月球了，我情不自禁地想起了某个宇航员。
In 1971, Apollo 14's Alan Shepard hit golf balls on the moon.
1971 年，阿波罗 14 号的艾伦·谢泼德 (Alan Shepard) 在月球上打高尔夫球。
Gearing up to face the profundity of the universe, this man brought sporting goods with him into space.
为了面对宇宙的深奥，这个人带着体育用品进入了太空。
Who can blame him?
谁能责怪他呢？
That's what we Americans do when we find a place that's really special.
当我们美国人发现一个真正特别的地方时，我们就会这么做。
We go there and act exactly like ourselves, and we are a nation of fun-loving dopes.
我们去那里，表现得和我们自己一模一样，我们是一个充满乐趣的傻瓜国家。
I sleepwalk to a picnic table in the Underground Lunchroom.
我稀里糊涂地走到地下餐厅的野餐桌旁。
When I first read about the Lunchroom in the guidebook, I'd never suspected it could feel so contemplative.
当我第一次在旅游指南中读到有关午餐室的内容时，我从未想到它会让人感觉如此令人沉思。
Then I rip open a bag of barbecue potato chips and listen to the sound of my own teeth crunching.
然后我撕开一袋烧烤薯片，听着自己咬牙切齿的声音。
It is possible in the Lunchroom to chew and ponder at the same time.
在餐厅里可以同时咀嚼和思考。
Sarah Vowell is the author of the book, Take the Cannoli.
莎拉·沃威尔（Sarah Vowell）是《拿下奶油甜馅煎饼卷》一书的作者。
Well, our program was produced today by Wendy Dorr and myself with Alex Blumberg, Jonathan Goldstein, and Starlee Kine.
好吧，我们今天的节目是由温迪·多尔（Wendy Dorr）和我本人以及亚历克斯·布隆伯格（Alex Blumberg）、乔纳森·戈德斯坦（Jonathan Goldstein）和斯塔莉·凯恩（Starlee Kine）制作的。
Senior producer Julie Snyder.
高级制片人朱莉·斯奈德。
Production help from Todd Bachmann and Paul McCarthy.
托德·巴赫曼 (Todd Bachmann) 和保罗·麦卡锡 (Paul McCarthy) 为制作提供帮助。
Music help from Mr. John Connors.
约翰·康纳斯先生的音乐帮助。
Hi, John.
嗨，约翰。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
[致谢]《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Torey Malatia, who recently had a bucket fall on his head and woke up saying--
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理由托里·马拉蒂亚 (Torey Malatia) 负责监督，他最近被水桶落在头上，醒来后说道：
45 years, the heat, four shots of whiskey after the shevitz, seven, eight rubs I used to rub--
45 年，炎热，谢维茨酒后喝四杯威士忌，我过去常常摩擦七八次——
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。