19: Rich Guys - This American Life
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00:00 00:00 文字记录 分享此 美国生活 生活伙伴 如何收听 剧集 推荐 关于 概述 员工公告 奖学金 工作 音乐 在路上制作电台 常见问题解答 提交 商品 联系我们 我们的其他节目 商品 关注我们 生活伙伴 订阅我们的时事通讯 整集 切换音频和文字记录同步 文字记录 | 内容第 19 集 | 1996 年 4 月 12 日 19：Rich Guys 注：《This American Life》是为耳朵而制作的，旨在让人们听到。
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Act One: The Grizz Ira Glass If you think about it, it's a strange thing for a very rich man to do to run for president because it means throwing yourself into a thousand tedious and potentially demeaning situations.
第一幕：灰熊艾拉·格拉斯 如果你想一想，对于一个非常富有的人来说，竞选总统是一件奇怪的事情，因为这意味着让自己陷入一千种乏味且可能有辱人格的境地。
For instance, you show up at a debate with the other millionaires who are running for president, and you try to make a joke out of the negative ads they are running against you.
例如，你出现在与其他竞选总统的百万富翁的辩论中，你试图用他们针对你投放的负面广告来开玩笑。
"You didn't even use a good picture of me," you protest, "so I brought you some pictures." You wave a few snapshots into the air.
“你连一张我的好照片都没有用，”你抗议道，“所以我给你带来了一些照片。”你向空中挥舞着几张快照。
You try to turn this debate into something on your own terms.
你试图将这场辩论变成按照你自己的方式进行的事情。
You try to seize the moment.
你试图抓住时机。
You pass the photos to one of your millionaire opponents.
您将照片传递给您的一位百万富翁对手。
He does not even look at them.
他甚至没有看他们。
He tells you that no pretty pictures are going to change your lousy record on taxes.
他告诉你，任何漂亮的照片都无法改变你糟糕的纳税记录。
You come off terribly.
你表现得很糟糕。
Another bad moment.
又一个糟糕的时刻。
Well, this actually happened to Bob Dole just last February.
嗯，这实际上就发生在去年二月的鲍勃·多尔身上。
Bob Dole, now the presumptive Republican nominee to the presidency.
鲍勃·多尔（Bob Dole）现在是共和党总统候选人的推定候选人。
Well, from WBEZ Chicago, it is This American Life , your weekly program documenting life in these here United States through whatever radio storytelling means we believe will amuse you and ourselves.
好吧，来自芝加哥 WBEZ 的《美国生活》是你们的每周节目，通过我们相信会让您和我们自己开心的广播故事讲述方式记录美国的生活。
I'm Ira Glass, and today we consider the stories of three men who had the option of comfortable, decent lives and decided to do something wildly eccentric instead, like run for president.
我是艾拉·格拉斯，今天我们要讲的是三个男人的故事，他们本可以选择舒适、体面的生活，但却决定做一些极其古怪的事情，比如竞选总统。
Act One concerns a politician you have probably never heard of.
第一幕涉及一位你可能从未听说过的政治家。
Act Two is a man who wrote a very strange letter to his yet unborn, yet unconceived, children.
第二幕是一个男人给他尚未出生、尚未怀上的孩子们写了一封非常奇怪的信。
Act Three, another mixed legacy of a rich guy.
第三幕，另一个富人的混合遗产。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, The Grizz.
第一幕，灰熊。
Over the last few months, a reporter named Michael Lewis has been publishing campaign diaries in The New Republic .
在过去的几个月里，一位名叫迈克尔·刘易斯的记者一直在《新共和》上发表竞选日记。
I don't know if you've seen these or not.
我不知道你是否看过这些。
They're pretty great.
他们非常棒。
He's also a columnist for the New York Times , a commentator on Marketplace , author of three books including one called Liar's Poker that is a pretty hilarious account of Wall Street in the '80s.
他还是《纽约时报》的专栏作家、《Marketplace》的评论员、三本书的作者，其中一本名为《说谎者的扑克》，对 80 年代的华尔街进行了相当搞笑的描述。
This is a guy whose reporting reads like a novel, usually a pretty entertaining, funny novel.
这个人的报道读起来就像一本小说，通常是一本非常有趣、有趣的小说。
And on the campaign trail, he has noticed a hundred telling moments that no other reporter has documented.
在竞选过程中，他注意到了一百个其他记者没有记录过的有说服力的时刻。
Like, for example, the day that Al Franken of Saturday Night Live showed up at a Pat Buchanan rally and picked a fight with some pro-Buchanan military cadets.
例如，那天《周六夜现场》的艾尔·弗兰肯出现在帕特·布坎南的集会上，并与一些支持布坎南的军校学员发生了争执。
Like, for example, Pat Buchanan railing against a Detroit steel mill closing but then quietly turning down the offer to actually sit on the board of directors of the mill and try to save it.
例如，帕特·布坎南（Pat Buchanan）反对底特律一家钢铁厂关闭，但随后悄悄拒绝了实际担任该工厂董事会成员并试图挽救该工厂的提议。
And then, at some point, Michael Lewis became fascinated with some of the candidates that everyone else was ignoring.
然后，在某个时候，迈克尔·刘易斯对一些其他人都忽视的候选人着迷。
And by everyone else, I include both the reporters and the voters, OK?
至于其他人，我包括记者和选民，好吗？
There were nine Republican candidates back in Iowa.
爱荷华州有九名共和党候选人。
And if you can name all nine of those candidates right now, I've got a crisp $100 bill right here in my hand.
如果你现在能说出所有九位候选人的名字，我手里就拿着一张清晰的 100 美元钞票。
Call this station, and no, I'm not going to give you the phone number.
打电话给这个电台，不，我不会给你电话号码。
Please consider now, when you consider these nine candidates, what could be a better subject for an entertaining, novelistic kind of writer than someone running for president who has pretty much no chance of making it?
现在请考虑一下，当你考虑这九位候选人时，对于一个有趣的小说作家来说，还有什么比那些几乎没有机会竞选总统的人更好的主题呢？
There you have a truly American story.
在那里你有一个真正的美国故事。
There you have a classic American dreamer.
那里有一个典型的美国梦想家。
And Lewis became so interested in one of these certain losers-- a guy named Morry Taylor-- that at some point, Lewis' editor got completely fed up with him and ordered him never to follow around Taylor anymore.
刘易斯对这些失败者中的一个人——一个名叫莫里·泰勒的人——如此感兴趣，以至于在某个时候，刘易斯的编辑完全厌倦了他，并命令他永远不要再跟随泰勒了。
"I did not send you out there to write Morry Taylor's biography," the guy said.
“我派你去那里不是为了写莫里·泰勒的传记，”那家伙说。
But it is easy to see why Lewis became so mesmerized with Taylor.
但很容易理解为什么刘易斯对泰勒如此着迷。
Taylor would give away cash prizes to voters at his rallies.
泰勒会在集会上向选民颁发现金奖励。
Taylor would burst onto stages reciting the words to his campaign theme song, Bruce Springsteen's "Dancing in the Dark." He would say, "You need a spark to start a fire, and this gun's for hire."
泰勒会冲上舞台背诵他的竞选主题曲布鲁斯·斯普林斯汀的《在黑暗中跳舞》的歌词。他会说：“你需要火花才能生火，而这把枪是出租的。”
Taylor spent $6 million of his own money on the campaign.
泰勒为竞选活动花费了 600 万美元。
As Lewis points out, of nine Republican candidates, Taylor was the only one who had actually been a success in the real business world.
正如刘易斯指出的那样，在九名共和党候选人中，泰勒是唯一一位在现实商业世界中真正取得成功的人。
Taylor began as a tool and die maker, bought failing companies, made them profitable.
泰勒最初是一名工具和模具制造商，收购了失败的公司，使它们盈利。
And by last year, his own company, Titan Tire and Wheel International-- I'll just say that name again, let's just pause on that name, Titan Tire and Wheel International-- tallied $620 million in revenue, no debt, and one of the highest profit margins of any company on the New York Stock Exchange.
到去年，他自己的公司泰坦轮胎和车轮国际公司（Titan Tire and Wheel International）——我只想再说一遍这个名字，让我们暂停一下这个名字，泰坦轮胎和车轮国际公司——的收入达到 6.2 亿美元，没有债务，并且是纽约证券交易所利润率最高的公司之一。
Morry Taylor has spent his whole life in the Midwest, and that is where Michael Lewis' diaries on him begin.
莫里·泰勒一生都在中西部度过，迈克尔·刘易斯的日记就是从那里开始的。
Michael Lewis agreed to come into our studios and read.
迈克尔·刘易斯同意进入我们的工作室读书。
January 11.
1 月 11 日。
Within minutes of landing in Des Moines, you know that you have arrived in the American Midwest.
抵达得梅因后几分钟内，您就知道自己已抵达美国中西部。
The Midwest is the straight man of the Western world, millions and millions of square miles peopled with Abbotts without their Costellos.
中西部是西方世界的直男，数百万平方英里的土地上住着阿伯特人，却没有科斯特洛人。
It's not that Midwesterners lack a sense of humor.
这并不是说中西部人缺乏幽默感。
It's just that they regard humor as a second-rate behavior, the opposite of rather than a complement to seriousness.
只是他们认为幽默是一种二流的行为，是严肃的反面而不是补充。
It's no wonder that professional Midwestern humorists like Garrison Keillor and David Letterman have a feel of men who have spun out of some orbit.
难怪像加里森·凯勒和大卫·莱特曼这样的中西部专业幽默家都会有一种脱离了某种轨道的感觉。
I've come to Iowa to find Morry Taylor, the man who by a landslide won the hearts of the United We Stand delegates at Ross Perot's convention last fall.
我来爱荷华州是为了寻找莫里·泰勒，他在去年秋天的罗斯·佩罗大会上以压倒性优势赢得了“我们站立”代表的心。
After hearing him speak, 400 of the 2,000 people present signed up to work on his campaign.
听完他的演讲后，在场的 2,000 人中有 400 人报名参加他的竞选活动。
The strange thing about Taylor is that he hasn't gotten more play in the press or the polls.
泰勒的奇怪之处在于他没有在媒体或民意调查中获得更多关注。
He's the real thing, an extremely successful businessmen who has behaved about as well as an extremely successful businessman can.
他是真正的人，一个极其成功的商人，他的行为举止与一个极其成功的商人一样。
He employs 5,500 people at a wage rate of $12 to $17 an hour, all of whom are included in a profit sharing plan.
他雇用了 5,500 名员工，工资为每小时 12 至 17 美元，所有这些人都包含在利润分享计划中。
He pays himself a modest salary and argues forcefully and often that CEOs of publicly held corporations should never be paid more than about 20 times the wages of their most menial workers.
他给自己支付的薪水并不高，并且经常有力地主张，上市公司首席执行官的工资永远不应超过其最卑微工人工资的 20 倍左右。
Actually, that's probably one of the reasons no one has heard of him until now.
事实上，这可能是迄今为止没有人听说过他的原因之一。
January 12.
1 月 12 日。
We start our day just before 8 o'clock inside a motor home plastered all over with Morry's favorite screaming eagle logo, the one his campaign staffers plead with him to abandon.
八点前，我们在一辆贴满了莫里最喜欢的尖叫鹰标志的房车里开始了新的一天，他的竞选工作人员恳求他放弃这个标志。
A ferocious-looking bird flies out of the T in Morry's last name, which is painted in huge letters across the side of the colossal machine.
一只看起来凶猛的鸟从莫里姓氏的T字中飞出，这个名字用巨大的字母画在巨大的机器的侧面。
Morry's campaign manager tried to talk him out of the expense, but Morry insisted that the best way to start running for president was to buy six RVs-- landyachts, they are called-- and race them in a convoy across each of Iowa's 99 counties and through every New Hampshire hamlet.
莫里的竞选经理试图说服他放弃这笔费用，但莫里坚持认为，开始竞选总统的最佳方式是购买六辆房车（又称陆地游艇），并以车队的形式驾驶它们穿越爱荷华州 99 个县和新罕布什尔州的每个小村庄。
Six monstrosities all jammed together and churning down the highway at 80 miles an hour with the Pointer Sisters blaring out of the lead vehicle, drowning out everything but Morry.
六辆怪物挤在一起，以每小时 80 英里的速度在高速公路上行驶，领头的车辆发出“指针姐妹”的轰鸣声，淹没了除了莫里之外的一切。
Morry figured that he'd roll them into town, surround the courthouse, flip on the loudspeakers, tap a few kegs of beer, and everyone for miles would be talking about Morry Taylor for the next two weeks.
莫里估计他会把他们带到城里，包围法院，打开扩音器，喝几桶啤酒，接下来的两周里，方圆数英里的每个人都会谈论莫里·泰勒。
He was right.
他是对的。
Today, like every other day, Morry is wearing his American flag tie.
今天，和往常一样，莫里戴着他的美国国旗领带。
He's shouting over music and the roar of the landyacht into a telephone at a radio talk show.
在广播脱口秀节目中，他对着电话大喊大叫，音乐声和陆地游艇的轰鸣声不绝于耳。
"Anyone who wants to come and help, call 1-800-USABEAR.
“任何想要过来帮忙的人，请拨打 1-800-USABEAR。
The talk show host asks him some question.
脱口秀主持人问了他一些问题。
"Well," replies Morry, "I use the bear number because my nickname is The Grizz."
“好吧，”莫里回答道，“我用熊这个名字是因为我的昵称是灰熊。”
"Why do they call you The Grizz?" I ask after he hangs up.
“为什么他们叫你灰熊？”他挂断电话后我问道。
"I got that when I took the company public," he shouts.
“当我将公司上市时，我就明白了这一点，”他喊道。
"At the closing, they gave me this plaque.
“在闭幕式上，他们给了我这块牌匾。
It says-- and they did it in Latin, which language I can't speak, but this is what it says-- in North America, there is no known predator to the grizzly.
上面写着——他们用的是拉丁语，我不会说这种语言，但这就是它说的——在北美，灰熊没有已知的捕食者。
So I became The Grizz.
所以我成了灰熊。
Then I thought about it.
然后我想了想。
Up until that time, I kind of liked my other nickname, Attila.
在那之前，我还挺喜欢我的另一个昵称，阿提拉。
People think Attila the Hun was a barbarian, but he's not.
人们认为匈奴人阿提拉是野蛮人，但他不是。
He's the guy who ran the Roman legion out of town.
他是将罗马军团赶出城镇的人。
At 9 o'clock, the landyacht rolls up beside the front door of the Ames High School and disgorges Morry.
九点钟，陆地游艇停在艾姆斯高中的前门旁，卸下了莫里。
Morry then does his usual trick of startling the locals.
莫里随后又施展了他惯用的伎俩，吓唬当地人。
He bursts through both double doors leading into the school, which, like all the doors he will open for the rest of the day, slam violently against the wall behind them.
他冲破了通往学校的两扇双门，就像他在这一天剩下的时间里打开的所有门一样，这扇门猛烈地撞在了他们身后的墙上。
He marches off down a long corridor with the rest of us trying to keep up, leaving a trail of startled adolescents in his wake.
他沿着一条长长的走廊大步走去，我们其他人试图跟上，在他身后留下了一群受惊的青少年。
He swaggers like a quarterback on the way to a huddle.
他像四分卫一样大摇大摆地走向人群。
"Did you play sports in high school?" I ask Morry, or rather, the back of Morry's head.
“你高中的时候参加过体育运动吗？”我问莫里，或者更确切地说，问莫里的后脑勺。
He doesn't even look around.
他甚至没有环顾四周。
He's shaking his head.
他在摇头。
I have no trouble imagining the scorn on his face.
我可以毫不费力地想象他脸上的蔑视。
"Did I play sports?" he asks.
“我参加过体育运动吗？”他问道。
"I am the biggest jock who ever ran for president.
“我是有史以来竞选总统的最伟大的运动员。
I can beat you in anything." And with that, he blows through the double doors leading into the auditorium.
我什么都能打败你。”说完，他吹开了通向礼堂的双扇门。
About 30 kids file in, slump down into their seats, and settle in for a snooze they'll never have.
大约 30 名孩子鱼贯而入，一屁股坐在座位上，睡了一个他们从未有过的小睡。
"Your school is too big," booms Morry.
“你们的学校太大了，”莫里大声说道。
"This is what is wrong with America," he says, pointing at the kids.
“这就是美国的问题所在，”他指着孩子们说道。
"Big, big, big.
“大，大，大。
A place like this breeds weirdos."
这样的地方会滋生怪人。”
The students are now fully alert.
学生们现在已经完全警觉了。
"I never could enjoy going to a school like this," concludes Morry.
“我从来都不会喜欢去这样的学校，”莫里总结道。
The kids seem to concur.
孩子们似乎也同意。
"How many of you ever take accounting?" he asks.
“你们中有多少人学过会计？”他问道。
The kids are now squirming and ducking.
孩子们现在正在蠕动和躲避。
He's breaking down their resistance, making them nervous.
他正在瓦解他们的抵抗，让他们紧张。
Two hands go up.
两只手举起来。
Morry shakes his head a little sadly.
莫里有点悲伤地摇摇头。
His tone changes.
他的语气变了。
"I know you've got a lot of these teachers." He waves nonchalantly at a couple of uneasy-looking older men in the rafters.
“我知道你们有很多这样的老师。”他若无其事地向房椽上几个神色不安的年长男子挥手。
"And they tell you a lot of--" he doesn't use the word "crap" but he might as well-- "things.
“他们告诉你很多——”他没有使用“垃圾”这个词，但他也可能——“事情。
But in your whole entire life, you're only going to use one or maybe two of those things." He pauses and seems to reconsider.
但在你的一生中，你只会使用其中的一种或两种东西。”他停顿了一下，似乎在重新考虑。
"Now, we all agree that the most important thing in your life is your family," he says.
“现在，我们都同意，你的生活中最重要的事情就是你的家庭，”他说。
"Your mama and your daddy, your brothers and your sisters.
“你的妈妈和你的爸爸，你的兄弟姐妹。
But right after that, there's something else.
但在那之后，还有别的事情。
We all know what it is, and it's green."
我们都知道它是什么，而且它是绿色的。”
With that, he reaches into his pocket and produces a fat roll of $100 bills.
说着，他把手伸进口袋，掏出一大卷 100 美元的钞票。
He holds it high so that everyone can see.
他把它举得高高的，让每个人都能看到。
Five grand, cash.
五大，现金。
The kids are now perched on the edge of their seats, giggling nervously.
孩子们现在坐在座位边上，紧张地咯咯笑。
"It all comes down to accounting," says Morry.
“这一切都取决于会计，”莫里说。
"Accounting and money.
“会计和金钱。
You can't live without it.
没有它你就活不下去。
And the minute you make it, someone is trying to take it away from you.
当你成功的那一刻，就有人试图把它从你身边夺走。
So for god's sake, find out about money."
所以看在上帝的份上，了解一下金钱吧。”
"Can I have some?" asks a kid in the front row.
“能给我一些吗？”前排的一个孩子问道。
"It's mine!" shouts Morry and puts the money back in his pocket, a nice illustration of some general business principle.
“是我的！”莫里喊道，然后把钱放回口袋，这很好地说明了一些一般商业原则。
Morry's positions are somewhat quixotic.
莫里的立场有些不切实际。
He's running on a platform of balancing the budget in 18 months, not by eliminating programs but by firing a third of the best-paid government employees.
他的竞选纲领是在 18 个月内平衡预算，不是通过取消项目，而是通过解雇三分之一收入最高的政府雇员。
"How many of you want to give the government 40% of what you earn after you get out of here?" he asks the crowd.
“你们中有多少人想在离开这里后把自己收入的40%交给政府？”他问人群。
One of the kids raises his hand.
其中一个孩子举起了手。
"Mark his name down," says Morry.
“记下他的名字，”莫里说。
"An institution needs him.
“一个机构需要他。
We're going to study his brain.
我们要研究他的大脑。
He's not human.
他不是人。
He's an alien."
他是一个外星人。”
January 13.
1 月 13 日。
Tonight, we flew in one of Morry's private planes to a Republican county dinner at Storm Lake in Northwestern Iowa.
今晚，我们乘坐莫里的一架私人飞机前往爱荷华州西北部斯托姆莱克参加共和党县晚宴。
After dinner, Morry rises to speak.
晚餐后，莫里站起来讲话。
He's on.
他在。
Within minutes, he has the crowd laughing and clapping.
几分钟之内，他就引起了人群的欢笑和鼓掌。
They agree with him about everything, especially the lunacy of the Forbes tax plan.
他们在所有事情上都同意他的观点，尤其是《福布斯》税收计划的疯狂之处。
Then, in the midst of the fun, a woman rises and challenges his pro-choice position.
然后，在一片欢乐之中，一个女人站起来挑战他支持堕胎的立场。
"It's a religious issue," Morry says, "not a matter for the federal government." She presses him.
“这是一个宗教问题，”莫里说，“不关联邦政府的事。”她逼迫他。
You can see she's used to making public speakers either come around to her way of thinking or regret ever opening their mouths.
你可以看到她习惯于让公众演讲者要么接受她的思维方式，要么后悔自己开口说话。
She's picked the wrong guy today.
她今天选错人了。
Instead of backing down or wiggling, Morry goes on the attack.
莫里没有退缩或摇摆，而是继续进攻。
"Look, ma'am.
“你看，女士。
I think 99% of women never want an abortion.
我认为99%的女性从来不想堕胎。
They go through a lot of mental anguish.
他们经历了很多精神上的痛苦。
They suffer a lot.
他们受苦很多。
I say leave it to them." She tries to speak.
我说交给他们吧。”她试图说话。
Morry interrupts.
莫里打断道。
"I said, leave it to the women." And there, at a banquet filled with Republican party hacks, the sort of people who are meant to be rabidly pro-life, who Morry expected to be rabidly pro-life, a volcano of spontaneous applause erupted.
“我说了，交给女人吧。”在那里，在一场挤满了共和党黑客的宴会上，那些本来应该狂热反对堕胎的人，莫里预计他们也会狂热地反对堕胎，自发的掌声爆发了。
All over the room, women were clapping so hard I thought they'd break their hands.
整个房间里，女人们都在鼓掌，用力得我以为她们的手都要折断了。
Here, I thought, is the benefit of having someone around who feels free to speak his mind.
我想，这就是身边有一个可以自由说出自己想法的人的好处。
He liberates, however momentarily, those who don't.
他解放了那些没有解放的人，尽管只是暂时的。
January 14.
1 月 14 日。
I was waiting at the front desk of the Des Moines YMCA when Morry arrived just before 9:00 AM.
上午 9:00 左右，莫里 (Morry) 到达时，我正在得梅因基督教青年会 (Des Moines YMCA) 的前台等候。
"What, do you think I wouldn't show?" he says.
“怎么，你以为我不会出现吗？”他说。
The racquetball game took just under 22 minutes.
壁球比赛持续了不到 22 分钟。
Morry won, 15-zip, 15-5.
莫里以 15 比 15 比 5 获胜。
I had figured that between the 25 extra pounds he's carrying around and the 16 years he has on me, I could out-hustle him.
我原以为，凭借他身上多出的 25 磅体重和我身上 16 岁的体重，我可以赶超他。
I was wrong.
我错了。
He knew every angle and trick on the court and played each one with relish.
他熟悉球场上的每一个角度和技巧，并且把每一个角度都打得津津有味。
"Too good," he'd shout after he'd drop the ball into the corner for the 10th time.
“太好了，”当他第十次把球扔进角落时，他会喊道。
As the rout progressed, he shouted to his aides.
随着溃败的进行，他向助手们大喊。
"14 to zip.
“14 拉链。
Not bad for an old guy," he shouted.
对于一个老人来说这还不错，”他喊道。
And then, under his breath, "Some of my guys are betting on you.
然后，他低声说道：“我的一些人在你身上下注。
Dip [BLEEP]." As we crawl through the hole out the back of the court, he says, "Don't you go write that you lost because you were nervous a presidential candidate was going to have a heart attack." Camus identified the love of winning at games as one of the prerequisites of happiness in the modern world.
浸入[BLEEP]。”当我们从球场后面的洞里爬出来时，他说：“你不要写下你输了，因为你担心总统候选人会心脏病发作。”加缪认为，对比赛胜利的热爱是现代世界幸福的先决条件之一。
And he did that without ever meeting Morry.
他在没有见过莫里的情况下就做到了这一点。
More of Michael Lewis' campaign diaries and Morry Taylor later in our show.
更多迈克尔·刘易斯的竞选日记和莫里·泰勒将在我们的节目中播出。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
So Jack, let's start here.
那么杰克，让我们从这里开始吧。
This is the case of Hecht v.
赫克特诉赫克特案就是这样的情况。
California , right?
加利福尼亚州，对吧？
Right.
正确的。
The facts of the case-- and let me just go straight to the unaffected prose of the judges.
案件的事实——让我直接谈谈法官们不受影响的散文。
This introduces all the characters and the essential events of the case.
这介绍了案件的所有人物和主要事件。
"At the age of 48, William Kane took his own life on October 30, 1991 in a Las Vegas hotel.
“1991 年 10 月 30 日，48 岁的威廉·凯恩在拉斯维加斯的一家酒店结束了自己的生命。
For about five years prior to his death, he had been living with a petitioner, 38-year-old Deborah Hecht.
在他去世前大约五年里，他一直与请愿者、38 岁的黛博拉·赫克特 (Deborah Hecht) 住在一起。
Kane was survived by two college-age children of his former wife, whom he had divorced in 1976."
凯恩身后留下了他前妻的两个大学年龄的孩子，他于 1976 年与他离婚。”
OK, so now we have a dead guy, his girlfriend, two kids, and a former wife.
好吧，现在我们有了一个死去的人、他的女朋友、两个孩子和一个前妻。
But that is not all we have of citizen William Kane's life.
但这并不是公民威廉·凯恩的全部生活。
We also have--
我们还有——
15 vials of his sperm in an account at California Cryobank, Inc.
加州冷冻银行 (California Cryobank, Inc.) 的账户中存有 15 瓶精子。
And this is where the story of this willful man with money begins.
而这个任性的有钱人的故事就从这里开始了。
It is our contributing editor Jack Hitt who reviewed the case for us.
我们的特约编辑杰克·希特（Jack Hitt）为我们审查了这个案例。
Jack's work regularly appears not just on this program but in the New York Times Magazine , Harper's , Esquire , Lingua Franca , and too many other publications to name.
杰克的作品不仅经常出现在这个节目中，还经常出现在《纽约时报杂志》、《Harper's》、《Esquire》、《Lingua Franca》以及许多其他出版物中。
But let us get back to citizen William Kane.
但让我们回到公民威廉凯恩。
Mr. Kane does not have Morry Taylor's kind of money, but he did have enough.
凯恩先生没有莫里·泰勒那样的钱，但他确实有足够的钱。
And in his will, he declared that if his girlfriend would use any of the--
在他的遗嘱中，他宣称如果他的女朋友愿意使用其中任何一个——
15 vials of sperm.
15瓶精子。
Ira Glass --and succeeded in getting pregnant, then the resulting child would get some of Kane's personal mementos and possibly the rights to some money.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）——并成功怀孕，然后生下的孩子将获得凯恩的一些个人纪念品，并可能获得一些金钱的权利。
This is an odd case of American jurisprudence, and the legal opinion includes the letter that William Kane wrote to his unborn, yet to be conceived child, Wyatt.
这是美国法理学中的一个奇怪的案例，法律意见书包括威廉·凯恩写给他未出生、尚未怀孕的孩子怀亚特的信。
Jack Hitt reads.
杰克·希特读着。
"I address this to my children because although I have only two, Everett and Katie, it may be that Deborah will decide, as I hope she will, to have a child by me after my death.
“我向我的孩子们说这句话，因为虽然我只有两个孩子，埃弗里特和凯蒂，但黛博拉可能会决定，正如我希望的那样，在我死后为我生一个孩子。
I've been assiduously generating frozen sperm samples for that eventuality.
我一直在孜孜不倦地制作冷冻精子样本，以应对这种可能性。
If she does, then this letter is for my posthumous offspring as well, with the thought that I have loved you in my dreams, even though I never got to see you born.
如果她这样做了，那么这封信也是写给我的遗腹子的，因为我在梦中爱过你，尽管我从未见过你出生。
If you are receiving this letter, it means that I am dead.
如果你收到这封信，就意味着我死了。
Whether by my own hand or that of another makes very little difference.
无论是我自己的手还是别人的手，都没有什么区别。
I feel that my time has come, and I wanted to leave you with something more than a dead enigma that was your father.
我觉得我的时代已经到来，我想给你留下的不仅仅是你父亲这个死谜。
I am inordinately proud of who I've been, what I made of me.
我为自己曾经的身份和成就感到无比自豪。
I'm so proud of that that I would rather take my own life now than be ground into a mediocre existence by my enemies who, because of my mistakes and bravado, have gained the power to finish me."
我为此感到非常自豪，我宁愿现在结束自己的生命，也不愿被我的敌人磨成平庸的生活，因为我的错误和虚张声势，他们已经获得了结束我的力量。”
How many people do we know in our lives, Jack, who can say a sentence like that?
杰克，我们一生中认识多少人，谁能说出这样一句话？
Every sentence in this letter is worthy of study.
这封信中的每一句话都值得研究。
I mean, from "I've been assiduously generating frozen sperm samples for that eventuality," to "If you are receiving this letter, it means that I am dead." And it goes on, Ira.
我的意思是，从“我一直在孜孜不倦地为这种可能性生成冷冻精子样本”，到“如果你收到这封信，那就意味着我已经死了。”事情还在继续，艾拉。
Check this out.
看看这个。
So he has several pages about his childhood memories and the family history.
所以他有几页关于他的童年记忆和家族史。
And then, quote, "So why am I checking out now?
然后引用：“那么我为什么现在要退房呢？
Basically, betrayal, over and over again, has made me tired.
基本上，一次又一次的背叛让我感到厌倦。
I've picked up some heavyweight enemies along the way, ranging from the Kellys of the world to crazies with guns to insurance agencies to the lawyers that have sucked me dry.
一路上我遇到了一些重量级的敌人，从世界上的凯利家族到持枪狂人，再到保险机构，再到那些把我榨干的律师。
I don't want to die as a tired, perhaps defeated and bitter old man.
我不想作为一个疲惫、也许是失败、痛苦的老人而死去。
I'd rather end it like I have lived it.
我宁愿结束它，就像我经历过它一样。
On my time, when and where I will."
在我的时间、时间和地点。”
[SINGING] Regrets, I have a few.
[唱歌] 遗憾，我有一些。
But then again--
但话又说回来——
--too few to mention.
——太少了，不胜枚举。
I've lived a life that's full--
我过着充实的生活——
He says, "I'd rather end it like I have lived it.
他说：“我宁愿结束它，就像我经历过它一样。
On my time, when and where I will, and while my life is still an object of self-sculpture, a personal creation with which I am still proud.
在我的时间、时间和地点，虽然我的生活仍然是自我雕塑的对象，但我仍然为此感到自豪的个人创作。
In truth, death for me is not the opposite of life.
事实上，对我来说，死亡并不是生的对立面。
It is a form of life's punctuation." End quote.
这是生命标点符号的一种形式。”结束报价。
I like him.
我喜欢他。
It's like a Martin Scorsese film.
这就像马丁斯科塞斯的电影。
Yeah.
是的。
And he's got this tough-guy thing.
他有这种硬汉的特质。
Here he is talking to his kid.
在这里，他正在和他的孩子说话。
I love that phrase, "So why am I checking out now?" Oh, by the way, just to make it even more interesting and soap opera-ish, the lawyer for the two kids, her name is Sandra Erwin.
我喜欢这句话，“那我为什么现在要退房呢？”哦，顺便说一句，为了让事情变得更有趣、更像肥皂剧，两个孩子的律师，她的名字叫桑德拉·欧文。
If you read carefully elsewhere, you find out that she is their mother.
如果你仔细阅读其他地方，你会发现她是他们的母亲。
and Mr. Kane's original wife.
以及凯恩先生的原配妻子。
Wow.
哇。
Jack Hitt So the lawyer suing the girlfriend is, in fact, the first recipient of Mr. Kane's sperm.
杰克·希特 因此，起诉女友的律师实际上是凯恩先生精子的第一个接受者。
And then, in a footnote, you sort of discover just what the relationship is between the Kane children-- the existing children, as I call them-- and Deborah.
然后，在脚注中，你会发现凯恩的孩子们——我这样称呼他们，是现有的孩子们——和黛博拉之间的关系。
So this is just a footnote just dropped in the text.
所以这只是文本中刚刚添加的脚注。
And this pretty much says everything you need to know.
这几乎说明了你需要知道的一切。
"On November 12, 1992, decedents children filed against Hecht a complaint for wrongful death and intentional infliction of emotional distress wherein they allege that their father, who had been unemployed for some time, became deeply depressed and began to seriously contemplate suicide about September 1, 1991.
“1992年11月12日，死者子女以非正常死亡和故意造成精神痛苦的罪名对赫克特提起诉讼，他们声称，他们的父亲失业一段时间后变得极度抑郁，并于1991年9月1日左右开始认真考虑自杀。
For six weeks before his death, Hecht was aware of decedent's quote, 'disturbed plan' end quote, to end his life, that Hecht convinced him to allow her to have his child after his death and leave her a substantial amount of his property to raise and care for this child.
在赫克特去世前六周的时间里，赫克特知道死者用“扰乱计划”结束自己的生命，并说服他允许她在他死后生下他的孩子，并留下大量财产来抚养和照顾这个孩子。
In the week before his death, Hecht encouraged and assisted decedent in transferring property to her."
在赫克特去世前一周，他鼓励并协助死者将财产转移给她。”
And she also generously helped him, quote, "empty his personal checking account by issuing a check to Hecht for $80,000," which you learn elsewhere she signed herself.
她还慷慨地帮助他，引述说，“向赫克特开出了一张 8 万美元的支票，清空了他的个人支票账户”，你可以在其他地方了解到她亲自签署了这张支票。
And then here's my favorite sentence.
然后这是我最喜欢的一句话。
"Hecht assisted decedent in purchasing a one-way ticket to Las Vegas and took him to the airport."
“赫克特协助死者购买了一张前往拉斯维加斯的单程机票，并将他带到了机场。”
I wonder what that curbside conversation was like.
我想知道那场路边谈话是什么样的。
Can you imagine?
你能想象吗？
She bought a one-way ticket to Las Vegas, knowing that he was going to go sit in a hotel, take pills.
她买了一张去拉斯维加斯的单程票，知道他要去旅馆里坐坐，吃药。
She also, by the way, bought him the plastic bag that he put over his head after he took the pills.
顺便说一句，她还给他买了一个塑料袋，让他在服药后套在头上。
She gave him a copy of Final Exit , which is a suicide manual.
她给了他一本《最终退出》，这是一本自杀手册。
The plastic bag to put over his head after he takes the pills?
服药后用塑料袋套在头上？
Isn't that the whole point of pills is that you don't have to do the ugly thing of getting a gun or plastic bags?
药丸的全部意义不就是让你不必做那些丑陋的事情，比如拿枪或塑料袋吗？
I mean, isn't that the whole point?
我的意思是，这不是重点吗？
Ira, you're not up on your suicide manuals.
艾拉，你还没有完成你的自杀手册。
According to Derek Humphry-- I believe that's the man's name who wrote Final Exit-- quite often, if you take a lot of pills, a lot of people will just end up getting sick, and you will live.
根据德里克·汉弗莱（我相信这是写《最终出口》的人的名字）的说法，通常情况下，如果你服用大量药物，很多人最终都会生病，而你会活下去。
So the idea is, yes, you take the pills to make sure that you will die, and then you suffocate yourself--
所以这个想法是，是的，你服药以确保你会死，然后你让自己窒息——
With the plastic bag.
带着塑料袋。
Jack Hitt --in the bag so that you don't wake up and vomit.
杰克·希特——放在袋子里，这样你就不会醒来呕吐。
It's pretty grim and certainly not the province of this discussion.
这是相当严峻的，当然不是本次讨论的范围。
All right.
好的。
Well, I'm learning just so much here.
嗯，我在这里学到了很多东西。
Yes, right.
是的，没错。
So the thing is, they're not really concerned about the money, because they cut a deal with Debbie.
所以问题是，他们并不真正关心钱，因为他们和黛比达成了协议。
The deal was, we get 80%, you get 20.
协议是，我们得到 80%，你得到 20%。
What they're worried about is that if she gets pregnant-- and this is where this whole case opens up a bizarre form of new law-- what they're worried about is that the child would have a claim to the estate, to their 80%.
他们担心的是，如果她怀孕了——这就是整个案件开启了一种奇怪的新法律的地方——他们担心的是孩子将拥有遗产的所有权，即他们的 80%。
And, in fact, the child probably would.
事实上，孩子很可能会这么做。
And that's because under his will, he says that if she gets pregnant and has the child, then the child gets some dough?
因为在他的遗嘱中，他说，如果她怀孕生了孩子，那么孩子会得到一些钱？
Well, it's just that it's an unresolved matter.
好吧，这只是一个悬而未决的事情。
So it's likely that the child would be able to sue later on for the kind of benefits that any natural biological child would be able to sue for.
因此，孩子以后很可能能够起诉，以获得任何亲生孩子都可以起诉的福利。
Mr. Kane is the biological father.
凯恩先生是孩子的亲生父亲。
He just participated in this new science which is referred to in the case with the phrase "post-mortem insemination."
他刚刚参与了这门新科学，案件中提到的“死后授精”一词。
We return to our own post-mortem examination when our program continues.
当我们的计划继续进行时，我们会回到我们自己的事后检查。
Act Two continues our discussion with journalist Jack Hitt about a dead man and his sperm.
第二幕继续我们与记者杰克·希特讨论一个死者和他的精子。
So here's what the lawsuit's about.
这就是诉讼的内容。
The lawsuit is the existing kids want to destroy the sperm, all of it.
该诉讼是现有的孩子想要摧毁精子，所有这一切。
15 vials "assiduously" deposited, as we know.
据我们所知，“精心”存放了 15 个小瓶。
In the course of their complaint, the existing kids say that they seek to, quote, "prevent the disruption of existing families by after-born children."
在投诉过程中，现有的孩子们表示，他们寻求“防止次生孩子对现有家庭的破坏”。
"After-born children." There's another new-- this case, in terms of what it's doing to the English language, is just groundbreaking.
“后生的孩子。”还有另一个新案例，就其对英语的影响而言，这是开创性的。
Forget about what it does to the law.
忘记它对法律的影响。
"After-born children."
“后生的孩子。”
Now, all of this is complicated by the fact that Debbie is 38 years old in 1991.
现在，1991 年黛比已经 38 岁了，这一切都变得更加复杂。
And she makes the claim that she must have the sperm at once because of advanced maternal age.
她声称由于高龄，她必须立即获得精子。
Right.
正确的。
In other words, if she gets a little bit older, she's not going to be able to have any babies.
换句话说，如果她年纪再大一点，她就不能再生孩子了。
So now, the court realizes that they've got a big issue at hand here.
现在，法院意识到他们手头有一个大问题。
What is sperm?
什么是精子？
Is it property?
是财产吗？
Is it something bigger?
难道是更大的事？
I mean, it exists, at least symbolically, on this kind of Darwinian level about preservation of species and perpetuation of one's own genetic line.
我的意思是，至少在象征意义上，它存在于达尔文主义的层面上，即物种的保存和自身基因谱系的延续。
And they're very nervous about just saying, let's just destroy this sperm.
他们非常紧张地说，让我们摧毁这个精子吧。
They don't really want to do that.
他们其实并不想那么做。
That's clear.
很清楚。
Wait, let me just be sure I understand this.
等等，让我确定我理解这一点。
Because if they say that sperm is property, his wife and children probably can lay some sort of claim to it or say that this is property, and we have some sort of final word over this property.
因为如果他们说精子是财产，他的妻子和孩子可能可以对它提出某种要求，或者说这是财产，而我们对此财产有某种最终决定权。
But if it is somehow part of his personhood, then it transcends the category of property.
但如果它在某种程度上是他人格的一部分，那么它就超越了财产的范畴。
Right.
正确的。
And so they go back to the precedent.
所以他们又回到了先例。
And they find some law regarding human tissue.
他们发现了一些关于人体组织的规律。
But most of the law regarding that says that once tissue has left your body, then it can be destroyed.
但大多数相关法律都规定，一旦组织离开您的身体，它就会被破坏。
It's not yours anymore because who cares, right?
它不再是你的了，因为谁在乎呢，对吧？
But they point out that you can't just say that about this particular tissue because Mr. Kane, as we know, "assidulously deposited" these particular tissues outside of his body with the intention that it be used for procreation.
但他们指出，你不能只是这样说这种特殊的组织，因为据我们所知，凯恩先生“孜孜不倦地将这些特殊的组织存放在他的体外，目的是用于生育。”
It's not just, like, sperm sitting around.
这不仅仅是精子坐在周围。
It's sperm sitting around with great intent.
这是精子带着伟大的意图坐在那里。
You understand what I'm saying?
你明白我在说什么吗？
Intent to become a child.
立志成为一个孩子。
Yes, right.
是的，没错。
Possession of sperm with the intent to inseminate.
出于授精目的而持有精子。
OK, so elsewhere in this case, the two existing kids plead with the court that it's just weird to have a kid after you're dead.
好吧，在本案的其他地方，两个现有的孩子向法庭恳求说，死后生孩子是很奇怪的。
Is that the word they use, or is that just kind of what it comes down to?
这是他们使用的词，还是这就是它的本质？
Well, no. They just say it's just wrong.
嗯，不。他们只是说这是错误的。
They don't know what else to say.
他们不知道还能说什么。
They just say, we all can just look at each other in the eye and we know what we mean we say this is just too weird.
他们只是说，我们只要看着对方的眼睛，我们就知道我们的意思，我们说这太奇怪了。
That's what it comes down to.
归根结底就是这样。
Exactly.
确切地。
Yeah.
是的。
And in a funny way, on that level, I completely understand them.
有趣的是，在这个层面上，我完全理解他们。
So the court reflects on this issue historically and points out something that you probably did not know, which is that, quote, "According to the Napoleonic Code from the early 19th century, any child born more than 300 days after the putative father's death is deemed illegitimate," end quote.
因此，法院从历史角度反思了这个问题，并指出了一些你可能不知道的事情，那就是，引用，“根据19世纪初的拿破仑法典，任何在假定父亲去世后超过300天出生的孩子都被视为私生子”，引用结束。
And what that means is that the guy goes off to war, he gets killed.
这意味着这个人去参加战争，他被杀了。
Well, the clock starts ticking the last day he was in town.
好吧，时钟从他在城里的最后一天开始计时。
And 300 days after that-- in other words, nine months of pregnancy-- any child born after that can't claim the father's goods.
300天后——换句话说，怀孕九个月——此后出生的任何孩子都不能继承父亲的财产。
In other words, nine months after the guy's dead, his estate is closed and shut, right?
换句话说，这家伙死后九个月，他的庄园就被关闭了，对吧？
But this is where this case gets very troubling because it keeps it open for potentially ever.
但这正是此案变得非常令人不安的地方，因为它可能永远保持开放状态。
As long as the sperm is sitting in the bank with great intent, the estate can't be closed.
只要精子还存留在银行里，庄园就无法关闭。
So in other words, what seems like a very simple, though odd, family dispute actually raises quite a broad and profound question of the law.
换句话说，看似非常简单却又奇怪的家庭纠纷实际上引发了一个相当广泛而深刻的法律问题。
Absolutely.
绝对地。
In fact-- and I'll get to this in just a second because there's another thing here that might make your heart stop when I tell you what it is-- this thing, at first when I first read it, I thought OK, this is just a funny little case.
事实上——我马上就会讲到这一点，因为当我告诉你它是什么时，这里还有另一件事可能会让你心跳停止——这件事，当我第一次读到它时，我想好吧，这只是一个有趣的小案例。
No, no, no. This is overthrowing millennia of settled common law, in a funny way.
不，不，不。这以一种有趣的方式推翻了数千年来既定的普通法。
Now, the existing kids, they make all these claims.
现在，现有的孩子们提出了所有这些主张。
But there's some that you just have to hear just to think about.
但有些事情你只需要听到就可以思考。
One is, quote, "The child could suffer psychologically from being conceived by a dead man." Now, I never really thought about that.
一是，引述，“孩子可能会因为死人怀上孩子而遭受心理上的痛苦。”现在，我从来没有真正想过这个问题。
But imagine if you grew up, and you knew that your father died five years before you were conceived.
但想象一下，如果你长大了，你知道你的父亲在你怀孕前五年就去世了。
It's not like being adopted or where your parentage is somewhat mysterious.
这不像被收养或者你的出身有些神秘。
That's kind of glamorous in its own way.
这本身就是一种迷人的方式。
And at least it's a story you can tell yourself.
至少这是一个你可以告诉自己的故事。
You can fantasize about who your parents might have been.
你可以想象你的父母可能是谁。
No, no. Well, I mean-- Jack Hitt No, but I'm just saying that that has--
不，不。好吧，我的意思是——杰克·希特不，但我只是说那有——
Yeah?
是吗？
Ira Glass The courtroom of this radio studio rejects that argument on these grounds.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass） 该广播工作室的法庭基于这些理由拒绝了这一论点。
Because your mom would tell you from the time that you are old enough to understand that your dad wanted to have a child with her and just for some reason was very, very busy and just couldn't get around to it in life.
因为你妈妈从那时起就会告诉你，你已经足够大了，可以理解你的爸爸想和她生一个孩子，但出于某种原因，他非常非常忙，在生活中抽不出时间。
Which, I have to say, is one of the stranger parts of the case, that if he was so intent on having a baby with Ms. Hecht, why didn't he just--
我不得不说，这是此案中最奇怪的部分之一，如果他这么想和赫克特女士生孩子，为什么他不——
Have a baby with Miss Hecht?
和赫克特小姐生孩子了吗？
Ira Glass Do we know that?
艾拉·格拉斯 我们知道吗？
OK, let me just go back to our bigger-- the point that--
好吧，让我回到我们更大的——重点是——
No, wait.
不，等等。
You don't think that being conceived by a dead man-- I don't care what the mother's explanation is.
你不会认为是死人怀上的——我不在乎母亲的解释是什么。
I'm sort of on the existing kids' side on this particular part of the argument.
在争论的这个特定部分上，我有点站在现有的孩子一边。
It's just strange.
这很奇怪。
Well, no, because I could imagine very easily the mother saying to the kid--
嗯，不，因为我很容易想象母亲对孩子说——
I don't know, Ira.
我不知道，艾拉。
I think the court of this correspondent just wants it stated for the record that it's weird, it's freaky.
我认为这位记者的法庭只是希望记录在案，这很奇怪，很怪异。
This guy, he "checked out" by his own description.
这个家伙，他按照自己的描述，“查出来”了。
He "checked out" because of all "the Kellys of the world" and all that.
由于所有“世界上的凯利”之类的事情，他“退房”了。
He couldn't even hang five years to see this kid into kindergarten, OK?
他连五年的绞刑都不能送这孩子上幼儿园，好吗？
I mean, I don't know.
我的意思是，我不知道。
To me, something about being dead before you were conceived is very weird.
对我来说，在怀孕之前就死了是很奇怪的。
OK, here's what's beautiful.
好吧，这就是美丽的地方。
What's the resolution eventually?
最终的解决方案是什么？
This court dilly dallies and hands it off to another court.
这个法庭磨磨蹭蹭，把事情交给了另一个法庭。
But that court finally says, you know what?
但法庭最后说，你知道吗？
It's property.
这是财产。
Frozen sperm is a special class of property.
冷冻精子是一种特殊的财产。
And so we divide it up according to the rules of the will.
所以我们根据遗嘱的规则来划分它。
20% goes to Deborah, 80% goes to the two existing kids.
20% 给黛博拉，80% 给现有的两个孩子。
So Deborah got three of the 15 vials of sperm.
所以黛博拉得到了 15 瓶精子中的三瓶。
And presumably, the existing children, not that they had anything to do with it, received 12 vials.
据推测，现有的孩子们收到了 12 瓶，虽然他们与这件事没有任何关系。
Then Deborah apparently, at age 42, last year, went into a clinic and proceeded to engage in the first instance in American law of post-mortem insemination.
然后，去年 42 岁的黛博拉走进一家诊所，开始进行美国尸检授精法的一审。
That was last fall, I believe.
我相信那是去年秋天的事。
Now, I just want to say one quick thing here.
现在，我只想简单地说一件事。
I can't wait.
我等不及了。
Jack Hitt I just want you to consider, Ira, what this could lead to.
杰克·希特，我只是想让你考虑一下，艾拉，这可能会导致什么。
As I said earlier, death was always the key indicator that an estate could be closed out.
正如我之前所说，死亡始终是遗产可能被关闭的关键指标。
But now this loophole, frozen sperm, opens a door that could just keep these post-mortem lawsuits going for decades.
但现在，冷冻精子这一漏洞打开了一扇可能让这些尸检诉讼持续数十年的大门。
It reminds me my friend, Peg Perry.
这让我想起了我的朋友佩格·佩里。
She lives in Northern Connecticut and raises milk cows.
她住在康涅狄格州北部，饲养奶牛。
And one time, I was up there visiting, and she was inseminating some of the cows.
有一次，我去那里拜访，她正在给一些奶牛授精。
And it turns out the bull semen that she uses is from this bull.
原来她用的公牛精液就是这头公牛的。
He had a name like Ferdinand.
他的名字就像费迪南德。
Oh, it was like Ferdinand.
哦，就像斐迪南一样。
Jack Hitt It's the only bull name I know, Ira.
杰克·希特 这是我所知道的唯一的公牛名字，艾拉。
[LAUGHTER] Ira Glass I was going to say, I'm sure you were paying careful attention to that detail.
[笑声] Ira Glass 我想说，我确信你非常注意这个细节。
But this bull-- can I get to the point, Ira?
但这头公牛——我能进入正题吗，艾拉？
This bull died, like, 40 years ago.
这头公牛大约 40 年前就死了。
He died in the '50s?
他死在五十年代吗？
Jack Hitt He did in 1956 or something.
Jack Hitt 他在 1956 年做过。
And he had spent his entire life, essentially, assiduously depositing sperm at the local bull bank.
他一生都在孜孜不倦地将精子存入当地的牛库。
And apparently it's really, really good sperm.
显然这是非常非常好的精子。
You really get good milk cows from this particular bull, OK?
你真的从这头特殊的公牛身上得到了很好的奶牛，好吗？
This bull has several thousand offspring, probably tens of thousands of offspring all over the country producing milk.
这头公牛有几千个后代，可能有几万个后代，遍布全国产奶。
So as of this lawsuit, as of this case, as of this court's ruling, for example, a rich man in California could now leave an estate of, say, $1 billion and many vials of sperm, "assiduously deposited," with the instructions that any fair maiden who wished to carry one of his children to term would receive, let's just say, $500,000, a one-time gift.
因此，从这起诉讼、到本案、到本法院的裁决，举例来说，加利福尼亚州的一位富翁现在可以留下一笔价值 10 亿美元的遗产和许多瓶“精心存放”的精子，并附上指示，任何希望怀上他的孩子足月的美丽少女将收到一份一次性礼物，比如说 50 万美元。
And given his estate, he could conceivably sire, what is that, 2,000 children over the next century, all now potentially legal in California.
考虑到他的遗产，可以想象，他可以在下个世纪生育 2,000 个孩子，这些孩子现在都可能在加利福尼亚州合法化。
See, now, if this catches on, these guys are going to stop running for president.
现在看，如果这种情况流行起来，这些人将停止竞选总统。
Exactly.
确切地。
I was just going to say, Perot and Forbes could do something better with their time.
我只是想说，佩罗和福布斯可以用他们的时间做一些更好的事情。
They could assiduously-- well, anyway, let's go on.
他们可以孜孜不倦地——好吧，无论如何，让我们继续吧。
[LAUGHTER] Ira Glass Yeah, let's just move on right past that joke.
[笑声] Ira Glass 是的，我们继续讲那个笑话吧。
Well, we'll just bring this to a close.
好吧，我们就结束这件事了。
I found a Legal Weekly in the library yesterday.
昨天我在图书馆找到了一份《法律周刊》。
And I did find that Wyatt Kane may find one other venue of existence after all.
我确实发现怀亚特·凯恩最终可能会找到另一个存在的场所。
Apparently, Deborah Kane has been offered a handsome sum of money by Hollywood producers for the movie rights to this story.
显然，好莱坞制片人为黛博拉·凯恩提供了一大笔钱来购买这个故事的电影版权。
Well, that is the logical place for it.
嗯，这就是它的逻辑位置。
And I say--
我说——
Well, what is the proper medium for this story?
那么，这个故事的合适媒介是什么？
I guess it is the TV movie of the week, really.
我想这确实是本周的电视电影。
No, Jack.
不，杰克。
Jack Hitt You think it's bigger than that?
杰克·希特 你认为它比那更大吗？
Jack, the proper medium for this story, as for any story, Jack Hitt, is radio.
杰克，这个故事的合适媒介，就像任何故事一样，杰克·希特，是广播。
And we've just done it.
我们刚刚做到了。
And thank you very much for joining us on our program.
非常感谢您加入我们的计划。
Thank you, Ira.
谢谢你，艾拉。
[MUSIC - "BEATUS VIR"]
[音乐-“BEATUS VIR”]
Well, this is "Beatus Vir." And when one of our producers, Nancy Updike, got the notes that came with the song, she was really excited because she looked it up.
嗯，这就是“Beatus Vir”。当我们的制作人之一南希·厄普代克（Nancy Updike）收到这首歌附带的音符时，她非常兴奋，因为她查了一下。
It apparently said that it was Psalm 3-- that was her interpretation.
显然说这是诗篇第 3 篇——这是她的解释。
And she looked Psalm 3 in the Bible, and she was astonished at how perfectly ironic the words of Psalm 3 were when put against the story of Citizen Kane.
她查阅了圣经中的诗篇第 3 篇，她惊讶地发现诗篇第 3 篇的话语与《公民凯恩》的故事相比是多么完美的讽刺。
The words of Psalm 3, "Lord, how they are increased that trouble me.
诗篇第3篇说：“主啊，使我烦恼的事何其增多。
Many are they that rise up against me.
他们中有许多人起来反对我。
I will not be afraid of ten thousands of people that have set themselves against me round about.
我不会害怕周围数以万计的人来反对我。
Arise, O Lord.
主啊，兴起吧。
Save me, O my God.
救救我，我的上帝啊。
For Thou hast smitten all mine enemies upon the cheekbone.
因为你把我所有的敌人都击在了颧骨上。
Thou hast broken the teeth of the ungodly." And the Kellys of the world.
你打碎了不敬虔之人的牙齿。”还有世界各地的凯利夫妇。
It doesn't really say that part.
它并没有真正说那部分。
Unfortunately, closer inspection of the notes that came with the song reveal that it is not Psalm 3, the words to this song.
不幸的是，仔细检查这首歌附带的音符会发现它不是诗篇 3，即这首歌的歌词。
It's actually Psalm 111, whose words cannot possibly be read in any sort of ironic way against the story of Mr. Kane and his family.
这实际上是诗篇 111，其中的文字不可能以任何讽刺的方式来解读凯恩先生及其家人的故事。
But by then, we had fallen so in love with this song, we just had to play it here.
但到那时，我们已经爱上了这首歌，我们就必须在这里播放它。
February 8.
2月8日。
A losing political campaign must at some point cease to be about winning and start to be about something else.
一场失败的政治竞选必须在某个时刻不再以获胜为目的，而开始以其他事情为中心。
A moral crusade, a chance to be on TV, a fundraiser for the next election.
道德十字军东征、上电视的机会、为下一次选举筹款的机会。
In Morry Taylor's case, that something else is fun.
就莫里·泰勒而言，其他事情很有趣。
We now resume Michael Lewis' campaign diaries about failed Republican presidential candidate Morry Taylor.
我们现在继续阅读迈克尔·刘易斯关于失败的共和党总统候选人莫里·泰勒的竞选日记。
We entitle this act of our program A Candidate, a Voter, and a Room Full of Pigs.
我们将我们节目的这一幕命名为《候选人、选民和满屋猪》。
To attract attention during the Iowa caucuses, Morry Taylor held five rallies where he gave away a total of $25,000 in a lottery, $5,000 at each of these five rallies.
为了在爱荷华州预选期间吸引注意力，莫里·泰勒举行了五次集会，他总共赠送了 25,000 美元的彩票，这五次集会每次都赠送了 5,000 美元。
And one of the winners of the $5,000 was a pig farmer named Wilfred McCreedy who just happened to be the host of the Iowa caucus for Republicans in the little town where he lived.
5000 美元的获奖者之一是一位名叫威尔弗雷德·麦克里迪 (Wilfred McCreedy) 的养猪户，他恰好是爱荷华州共和党党团会议在他居住的小镇举行的主持人。
These diary entries are from February when the Republican field was still full of people like Lamar Alexander, Phil Gramm, and Alan Keyes.
这些日记记录于二月，当时共和党阵营中仍然充满了拉马尔·亚历山大、菲尔·格拉姆和艾伦·凯斯等人。
February 8.
2月8日。
At last, we arrive at the airport.
终于，我们到达了机场。
Waiting there are several vans and cars plastered with stickers for Lamar Alexander.
那里有几辆贴有拉马尔·亚历山大贴纸的货车和汽车在等着。
Lamar is going places, but as he rises, he is coming under attack, not only from Morry but from Steve Forbes, who has a new commercial explaining how Lamar turned $1,000 into $620,000 with the help of a few friends.
拉马尔正在取得进步，但随着他的崛起，他不仅受到莫里的攻击，还受到史蒂夫·福布斯的攻击，史蒂夫·福布斯有一个新广告解释拉马尔如何在几个朋友的帮助下将 1,000 美元变成 620,000 美元。
We enter the terminal.
我们进入航站楼。
Lamar's jet is circling overhead.
拉马尔的喷气式飞机在头顶盘旋。
He is preparing to land.
他正准备着陆。
Lamar does everything with exclamation points.
拉马尔所做的一切都带有感叹号。
At length, Alexander emerges and is surrounded by the cameras.
最后，亚历山大出现了，周围都是摄像机。
You can see he is looking for some way to take advantage of the new camera crews.
你可以看到他正在寻找某种方式来利用新的摄制组。
Spotting Morry, now lingering disinterestedly on the tarmac's fringe, Lamar strides over to shake hands.
拉马尔发现莫里正在停机坪边缘漫不经心地徘徊，他大步走过去握手。
He offers Morry a phony smile and a line from his stump speech.
他向莫里露出了一个虚假的微笑，并附上了他的竞选演讲中的一句台词。
"Just bought my mud boots for all that negative advertising up in New Hampshire." Morry stares at him for a few seconds like he's some kind of nutcase.
“为了新罕布什尔州那些负面广告，我才买了一双泥靴。” Morry盯着他看了几秒钟，就像他是个疯子一样。
"That's not negative advertising," he says.
“这不是负面广告，”他说。
"They're just telling you the truth."
“他们只是告诉你真相。”
Lamar's happy face vanishes.
拉马尔快乐的脸消失了。
Poof.
噗。
A truly nightmarish sound bite has just occurred.
真正噩梦般的原声刚刚发生。
The CBS cameras are rolling.
哥伦比亚广播公司（CBS）的摄像机正在滚动。
The familiar fight-or-flight instinct takes over.
熟悉的战斗或逃跑本能占据了上风。
So what does Lamar do?
那么拉马尔做什么呢？
He simply ends the conversation, turns, and racewalks into his car.
他只是结束了谈话，转身跑进了自己的车里。
"Got to go," he hollers over his shoulder as he disappears into the back of his car.
“得走了，”他回头喊道，然后消失在汽车后座里。
"That's what happens when you meet The Grizz," Morry booms after him.
“这就是当你遇到灰熊时会发生的事情，”莫里在他身后大声说道。
But the night is still young.
但夜晚还很年轻。
Thrilled by a rare, authentic moment, the CBS crew newly assigned to Lamar phones New York.
新分配到拉马尔的哥伦比亚广播公司工作人员为这个罕见而真实的时刻感到兴奋，给纽约打电话。
New York orders the crew leave Alexander and to follow Morry wherever he goes next.
纽约命令船员离开亚历山大并跟随莫里无论他下一步去哪里。
Morry takes the crew on a tour of Alexander's jet, which looms massively beside Morry's own small plane.
莫里带着机组人员参观了亚历山大的喷气式飞机，这架飞机赫然耸立在莫里自己的小型飞机旁边。
"Tell me what is wrong with this picture," I hear him say.
“告诉我这张照片有什么问题，”我听到他说。
"Here you've got a little plane made right here in America, belonging to a guy who has just made his own money.
“这是一架在美国制造的小飞机，属于一个刚刚赚到钱的人。
And over here, you've got a $25 million Falconer made in Canada being used by a politician."
在这里，你可以看到一辆价值 2500 万美元的加拿大制造的 Falconer 飞机，正被一位政客使用。”
Four or five carloads of Alexandrians gaze on, helplessly.
四五车亚历山大人无助地看着。
Meanwhile, overhead, Bob Dole's jet is now circling.
与此同时，鲍勃·多尔的喷气式飞机正在头顶盘旋。
Unwisely, it decides to land.
它不明智地决定降落。
There on the tarmac, in the middle of the night, in the middle of nowhere, one third of the Republican field has now assembled.
半夜，在停机坪上，在一个偏僻的地方，共和党选民的三分之一现在已经聚集在一起。
Even more astonishing, the one national news network on hand is trailing around behind the surest loser.
更令人惊讶的是，手头的一家全国性新闻网络却落后于最确定的失败者。
Dole's plane rolls inexorably towards Morry and CBS, oblivious to the danger.
多尔的飞机无情地冲向莫里和哥伦比亚广播公司，完全没有意识到危险。
"And here," says Morry, "we have another politician.
“而在这里，”莫里说，“我们有另一位政治家。
Has he ever made any real money?
他真的赚过钱吗？
No. So what's he flying in?
不。那他坐什么飞机？
A $19 million Challenger.
价值1900万美元的挑战者号。
This one is made in France."
这是法国制造的。”
But then, just as it appears that Morry will have one last chance to ask Dole about his $4 million government pension, the front runner spots Morry, dives straight into his car, and beats Alexander to the airport exit.
但就在莫里似乎有最后一次机会向多尔询问他的 400 万美元政府养老金时，领跑者发现了莫里，径直跳进他的车，比亚历山大先到了机场出口。
February 10.
2 月 10 日。
On to a church in Des Moines to celebrate heterosexual marriages and protest homosexual ones.
前往得梅因的一座教堂庆祝异性婚姻并抗议同性恋婚姻。
Together with a crowd of maybe 800 people, Alan Keyes, Phil Gramm, and Pat Buchanan have all turned up to take their whacks.
艾伦·凯斯 (Alan Keyes)、菲尔·格拉姆 (Phil Gramm) 和帕特·布坎南 (Pat Buchanan) 与大约 800 人一起现身接受打击。
All the rest except Morry have agreed to sign some pledge to make homosexuals as miserable as possible.
除了莫里之外，其他人都同意签署一些承诺，让同性恋者尽可能痛苦。
"Who gives a [BLEEP]?" Morry said when I asked him why he wasn't going.
“谁发出[BLEEP]声？”当我问他为什么不去时，莫里说道。
"If you want to be fruity-tooty, so what?"
“如果你想变得果味十足，那又怎么样？”
February 12.
2 月 12 日。
When I phone Wilfred McCreedy, the winner of Morry's $5,000 drawing, to ask if I could observe the caucus on his farm, I could barely hear his response over the squealing of pigs.
当我打电话给莫里 5,000 美元抽奖的获胜者威尔弗雷德·麦克里迪 (Wilfred McCreedy)，询问我是否可以在他的农场观察党团会议时，我几乎听不到他在猪的尖叫声中的回应。
Upon my dropping of Morry's name, he said, "That Morry Taylor, he has it exactly right." I was in.
当我说出莫里的名字时，他说：“莫里·泰勒，他说得完全正确。”我当时在。
The McCreedys have been farming the same land in the middle of nowhere for 128 years.
128 年来，麦克里迪一家一直在荒无人烟的地方耕种同一块土地。
They have both traveled some, but it's been 10 years since the McCreedys last had a vacation.
他们都去过一些地方，但麦克里迪夫妇上次度假已经是十年前的事了。
And their farm hours make investment banking seem like a walk in the park.
他们在农场工作的时间让投资银行业务看起来就像在公园里散步一样轻松。
Unlike their neighbors, and just about everyone else in Iowa, the McCreedys do not participate in any federal farm programs.
与他们的邻居以及爱荷华州的几乎所有其他人不同，麦克里迪一家不参加任何联邦农场计划。
Before long, the talk drifts to politics.
不久之后，话题就转向了政治。
On the phone, McCreedy became a bit worked up about the marriage rally at the church in Des Moines.
在电话中，麦克里迪对得梅因教堂举行的婚礼集会感到有点激动。
"Those gays and lesbians are going to protest that meeting?" he said in a tone of utter disbelief.
“那些同性恋者会抗议那次会议吗？”他用一种完全不敢相信的语气说道。
"God damn, that makes me angry." He said he would've driven the two and a half hours to Des Moines to throw his support behind the straights, but his sows were pigging.
“该死的，这让我生气。”他说他会开车两个半小时到得梅因来支持直道，但他的母猪正在吃猪。
Now, once again, he says how angry the gays made him.
现在，他再次表示同性恋者让他多么生气。
But in the flesh, his anger comes across differently.
但在肉体上，他的愤怒却表现得不同。
At some level, he may be angry.
在某种程度上，他可能很生气。
But his prejudice seems mainly to give him pleasure.
但他的偏见似乎主要是为了给他带来快乐。
As he lays into Clinton, homosexuals, and the US government, his real emotion is more like delight, the delight of a good fan rooting for his team.
当他谈到克林顿、同性恋者和美国政府时，他的真实情感更像是喜悦，是一个好粉丝为他的团队加油的喜悦。
Go straights!
直走！
"Is it true that Forbes owns a Mapplethorpe photograph?" he asks.
“《福布斯》真的拥有一张梅普尔索普的照片吗？”他问道。
I say it is.
我说是的。
"Dad gum it," he says.
“爸爸给它涂口香糖，”他说。
"Oh, Wilfred.
“噢，威尔弗雷德。
What does that matter?" asks Mrs. McCreedy.
这有什么关系？”麦克里迪夫人问道。
"That man took pornographic photographs of homosexuals," bellows Mr. McCreedy, at which point Mrs. McCreedy just rolls her eyes.
“那个男人拍了同性恋者的色情照片，”麦克里迪先生吼道，此时麦克里迪夫人只是翻了个白眼。
I've tried to make myself as agreeable as possible, but it's only a matter of time before I have to come clean with my left-leaning associations.
我试图让自己尽可能地讨人喜欢，但我必须坦白我的左倾联想只是时间问题。
The tension builds as Mr. McCreedy stakes out a political position on the other end of the spectrum from mine.
当麦克里迪先生提出与我相反的政治立场时，紧张局势加剧。
But it's nearly two hours before I discover that the McCreedys have no idea where I am from or what I do, only that I am a friend of Morry Taylor's.
但过了近两个小时，我才发现麦克里迪一家不知道我来自哪里，也不知道我做什么，只知道我是莫里·泰勒的朋友。
"You're not from PETA, are you?" asks Mrs. McCreedy, finally.
“你不是善待动物组织的人，是吗？”麦克里迪夫人终于问道。
I have no idea what she's talking about.
我不知道她在说什么。
"People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals," she explains.
“善待动物组织，”她解释道。
"You just never know when they're going to interrupt.
“你永远不知道他们什么时候会打断你。
Lately, they've gone to our schools dressed up as carrots to tell the kids not to eat meat."
最近，他们打扮成胡萝卜去我们的学校告诉孩子们不要吃肉。”
It's truly astonishing.
真是令人惊讶。
As far as these people knew, I was some protester who had come to disrupt their lives.
据这些人所知，我是一个来扰乱他们生活的抗议者。
And yet they still fed me and humored me before venturing to ask.
但他们还是先给我喂食，然后逗笑我，然后才敢问。
One of the few things I recall from college was that in the Homeric universe, the mark of a civilized persons is his kindness to strangers.
我在大学时记得的几件事之一是，在荷马的宇宙中，文明人的标志就是他对陌生人的善意。
The good king feeds Odysseus first, then asks questions later.
善良的国王先喂奥德修斯，然后再问问题。
The cyclops questions him first, then tries to eat him.
独眼巨人首先询问他，然后试图吃掉他。
The McCreedys have the gift of kindness to strangers.
麦克里迪一家有善待陌生人的天赋。
I put PETA on the list of things to be against.
我把善待动物组织（PETA）列入了我要反对的事情清单中。
But now there's no getting around it.
但现在已经无法回避了。
I must explain what the hell I'm doing in their kitchen.
我必须解释一下我到底在他们的厨房里做什么。
I mention The New Republic and hold my breath.
我提到《新共和》，屏住了呼吸。
"Is that Fred Barnes' place?" asks McCreedy.
“那是弗雷德·巴恩斯住的地方吗？”麦克里迪问道。
I say that until very recently, it was.
我这么说，直到最近，确实如此。
"Oh, man," says McCreedy.
“哦，伙计，”麦克里迪说。
"I love that guy.
“我爱那个人。
Really?
真的吗？
Fred Barnes?" It is true.
弗莱德·巴恩斯？”是真的。
"He's my man," says Mr. McCreedy, slapping me on the shoulder.
“他是我的人，”麦克里迪先生拍着我的肩膀说道。
It's all very Japanese.
一切都非常日本化。
Neither of us wants to put a fine point on political disagreement, and so I've been granted the status of conservative by association.
我们俩都不想在政治分歧上挑剔，所以我被协会授予了保守派的地位。
After a bit, Mr. McCreedy announces that it's time to "go choring." On the way over in the car, he gives me an idea of what it's like to host a caucus.
过了一会儿，麦克里迪先生宣布是时候“合唱”了。在车里的路上，他让我了解了举办党团会议的感觉。
In the past couple of days, Phil Gramm has called six times, Pat Buchanan twice, and Alan Keyes once.
在过去的几天里，菲尔·格拉姆打了六次电话，帕特·布坎南打了两次电话，艾伦·凯斯打了一次电话。
Lamar Alexander has sent McCreedy two books about himself and a videotape.
拉马尔·亚历山大给麦克里迪寄了两本关于他自己的书和一盘录像带。
Pollsters call the McCreedys about eight times a day.
民意调查人员每天大约给麦克里迪夫妇打电话八次。
On the way down the driveway, McCreedy spots a FedEx package poking out from his mail slot.
在沿着车道行驶的路上，麦克里迪发现一个联邦快递包裹从他的邮筒里伸出来。
"Maybe it's one of those shirts from Alexander," he says, laughing.
“也许这是亚历山大的一件衬衫，”他笑着说。
It is, or at least it's a collection of Alexandriana.
它是，或者至少它是亚历山大的收藏。
At length, I ask him who he's for.
最后，我问他他是为了谁。
"I'm undecided," he says.
“我还没有决定，”他说。
"A week ago, I was for Forbes.
“一周前，我为《福布斯》效力。
Then I got my check.
然后我收到了支票。
I was for Morry Taylor.
我支持莫里·泰勒。
Now I don't know.
现在我不知道了。
You've got to find me one who's going to beat Bill Clinton.
你必须为我找到一位能够击败比尔·克林顿的人。
Which one do you think?" "None of them," I say.
你认为是哪一个？” “都没有，”我说。
"Damn," he says, slapping his hand on the steering wheel.
“该死，”他一边说，一边把手拍在方向盘上。
But he's a good sport about it.
但他对此很感兴趣。
He's unhappy for about four seconds, and then he's rueful.
他不高兴了大约四秒钟，然后他感到懊悔。
At length, we arrive at the pig sheds, long, low-slung buildings lined with six-by-five-foot metal troughs filled to the brim with oinkers.
最后，我们到达了猪棚，这是一栋又长又低的建筑，两旁排列着六乘五英尺的金属槽，槽里装满了猪。
McCreedy opens the first door.
麦克里迪打开第一扇门。
I recoil and gag.
我退缩并作呕。
The blast of odor is the most moving thing I've experienced on the campaign trail since I last heard Alan Keyes speak.
自从我上次听到艾伦·凯斯讲话以来，气味的爆发是我在竞选过程中经历过的最感人的事情。
While I choke in the corner of his office, McCreedy marches through the pens unfazed.
当我在他办公室的角落里窒息时，麦克里迪却泰然自若地穿过围栏。
"I don't understand," he hollers out over the noise of the pigs.
“我不明白，”他在猪的喧闹声中喊道。
"When that McLaughlin hollers out 'Fred Beetlebum Barnes', what is that 'Beetlebum' business?
“当麦克劳克林喊出‘弗雷德甲壳虫巴恩斯’时，‘甲壳虫’是什么意思？
What's that about?" I have no idea.
那是什么事？”我不知道。
In the first week of each piglet's short life, Wilfred takes a pair of steel clippers and cuts their eye teeth.
在每只小猪短暂生命的第一周，威尔弗雷德都会用一把钢剪剪掉它们的眼牙。
"I'd like to do that Eleanor Clift," he booms out as I make my way down the row.
“我想像埃莉诺·克利夫特那样，”当我沿着一排走下去时，他大声说道。
"Clip her eye teeth.
“剪掉她的眼牙。
Get Fred Barnes to hold her down."
让弗雷德·巴恩斯按住她。”
A few hours later, at around 7 o'clock, 25 voters arrive in the McCreedys' living room to discuss the candidates.
几个小时后，7 点左右，25 名选民来到麦克里迪夫妇的客厅讨论候选人。
Only three are even mentioned-- Richard Lugar, Bob Dole, and Alan Keyes.
甚至只提到了三个人——理查德·卢格、鲍勃·多尔和艾伦·凯斯。
From the sounds of their talk, the people in the room are divided between Keyes and Dole.
从他们的谈话声来看，房间里的人分为凯斯和多尔。
Just before 8 o'clock, Mr. McCreedy passes around a pad of yellow post-its.
就在 8 点之前，麦克里迪先生传递了一叠黄色便利贴。
Two men then collect the votes in a silver pot and adjourn to the dining room table.
然后，两名男子将选票放入银罐中，然后到餐桌旁休息。
There, they quietly add the totals.
在那里，他们悄悄地添加了总数。
Dole, 11.
多尔，11。
Keyes, 7.
凯斯，7.
Alexander, four.
亚历山大，四岁。
Lugar, three.
卢格，三岁。
I ask Mr. McCreedy who he went for, and he laughs and says, "Guess." When the tally is announced to the room, there is a murmur.
我问麦克里迪先生他去找谁，他笑着说：“猜猜看。”当向房间里宣布计票结果时，有人窃窃私语。
And then someone shouts, "Wilfred, does that mean you've got to give the $5,000 back?" It's clear they all think that Morry was a fool.
然后有人喊道：“威尔弗雷德，这是否意味着你必须退还 5,000 美元？”显然他们都认为莫里是个傻瓜。
He spent $5,000 on the guy, and he couldn't even buy his vote.
他在这个家伙身上花了 5,000 美元，但他甚至买不到他的选票。
I prefer to see it another way.
我更喜欢以另一种方式看待它。
Who else but Morry Taylor could give a guy $5,000 and still leave him free to vote for whom he pleases?
除了莫里·泰勒之外，还有谁能给一个人 5,000 美元，并且仍然让他自由地投票给他喜欢的人呢？
When Morry Taylor finally dropped out of the presidential race on March 8, Michael Lewis wrote, "We all have a fantasy, and it is profitably exploited by Hollywood, that if only an honest and genuinely free man with a heart of gold ran for president, everything in the world would be put aright." Well, now we know what happens when an honest and genuinely free man with a heart of gold runs for president.
当莫里·泰勒最终在 3 月 8 日退出总统竞选时，迈克尔·刘易斯写道：“我们都有一个幻想，如果只有一个诚实、真正自由、拥有一颗金子般的心的人竞选总统，世界上的一切都会好起来，这一幻想被好莱坞利用了。”好吧，现在我们知道当一个诚实、真正自由、拥有金子般的心的人竞选总统时会发生什么。
He spends $6.5 million and gets 7,000 votes.
他花费了 650 万美元并获得了 7,000 张选票。
Michael Lewis' campaign diaries will come out as a book next May from Knopf.
迈克尔·刘易斯的竞选日记将于明年五月由克诺夫出版成书。
Act Three, Another Mixed Legacy.
第三幕，另一个混合遗产。
What are we to make of the rich, the successful, the powerful?
我们如何看待富人、成功者、有权势的人？
How should we think about them?
我们应该如何看待他们？
Take Ron Brown.
以罗恩·布朗为例。
Ron Brown is someone who could have had a comfortable, low-stress life.
罗恩·布朗本可以过上舒适、低压力的生活。
But he is one of those people who threw himself into difficult tasks like, for example, taking over the Democratic Party at one of its lowest moments, uniting it, raising tons of money for it.
但他是那些全身心投入艰巨任务的人之一，例如，在民主党处于最低时刻之一接管民主党，团结它，为其筹集大量资金。
And when his plane went down, it was a tragedy.
当他的飞机坠毁时，这是一场悲剧。
But some people have been disturbed at the way many are now eulogizing the former Secretary of Commerce.
但一些人对现在许多人赞扬前商务部长的方式感到不安。
Brian Gilmore is a legal services attorney in Washington, DC, a writer, and a poet.
布莱恩·吉尔摩 (Brian Gilmore) 是华盛顿特区的一名法律服务律师、作家和诗人。
And he says that in this moment, when so many people have been praising this successful, powerful man as a kind of post-Martin Luther King saint and role model, his feelings are more complicated.
他说，此时此刻，当这么多人称赞这位成功、有权势的人是后马丁·路德·金时代的圣人和榜样时，他的感受更加复杂。
I would be a liar if I said I was a political disciple of Ron Brown.
如果我说我是罗恩·布朗的政治弟子，那我就是个骗子。
In fact, I cannot ever recall thinking that his particular approach to politics was the answer for the widening woes of black America, or anyone who is deprived in this society, for that matter.
事实上，我不记得他对政治的特殊态度是解决美国黑人或任何在这个社会中被剥夺的人日益扩大的困境的答案。
It might enable a few privileged, upper-middle-class African-Americans to get richer or gain a foothold into the walls of power and might provide some jobs to a small segment of the population, but I have grave doubts that this approach alone can ever change the fundamental problems the masses of African-Americans face on a daily basis.
它可能会让一些享有特权的中上阶层非裔美国人变得更加富有，或者在权力的围墙中获得立足点，并可能为一小部分人口提供一些就业机会，但我严重怀疑这种方法本身是否能够改变广大非裔美国人每天面临的根本问题。
But despite this glaring difference in our political ideals, I was deeply saddened by the death of the man who I admired greatly and who was clearly a role model for me.
尽管我们的政治理想存在如此明显的差异，但我对这个我非常敬佩的人的去世深感悲痛，他显然是我的榜样。
In his own way, on his own terms, he seemed to solve the W.E.B.
他似乎以自己的方式、按照自己的条件解决了 W.E.B.
DuBois dilemma of double consciousness that we African-Americans are born with and face our every waking moment in this country.
杜波依斯的双重意识困境是我们非裔美国人与生俱来的，在这个国家每一个醒着的时刻都面临着这种困境。
He was a man who mastered the art of floating carefully between black America and white America.
他掌握了在美国黑人和美国白人之间小心翼翼地游走的艺术。
His way of accomplishing this most difficult task was to get inside the huddle and become a player in American politics and society.
他完成这项最艰巨任务的方法是融入人群，成为美国政治和社会的参与者。
Though my life is seemingly taking a vastly different path than his, I have to admit that in a lot of ways, Brown and I are very similar.
尽管我的生活似乎走着与他截然不同的道路，但我不得不承认，在很多方面，布朗和我非常相似。
Both of us were born in Washington, DC, attended private schools where middle-class kids were urged to succeed.
我们都出生在华盛顿特区，就读于私立学校，那里的中产阶级孩子被鼓励取得成功。
And like him, I, too, have become a lawyer.
和他一样，我也成为了一名律师。
But that is where many of our similarities end.
但这就是我们许多相似之处的结束。
Ron Brown was a partner in a law firm that represented some of the richest clients in the world.
罗恩·布朗是一家律师事务所的合伙人，该律师事务所代表了世界上一些最富有的客户。
I have been an attorney for the past three years representing some of Washington's poorest and most destitute residents.
过去三年来，我一直担任律师，代表华盛顿一些最贫穷和最贫困的居民。
Brown came along at that brief, magical time in American history when the civil rights movement had reshaped the country and opportunities for educated African-Americans seemed to be unlimited.
布朗出现在美国历史上那个短暂而神奇的时期，当时民权运动重塑了这个国家，受过教育的非裔美国人的机会似乎是无限的。
He worked for a traditional civil rights organization, the Washington Urban League, and eventually became part of Edward Kennedy's congressional staff.
他为传统的民权组织华盛顿城市联盟工作，并最终成为爱德华·肯尼迪国会工作人员的一员。
Like so many other minority professionals at that time, he honestly believed in America and its opportunities following the '60s.
与当时许多其他少数族裔专业人士一样，他真诚地相信美国及其 20 世纪 60 年代后的机遇。
By contrast, when I came along in search of my position in the world, Ronald Reagan had become president, and the civil rights movement was over.
相比之下，当我开始寻找自己在世界上的地位时，罗纳德·里根已经成为总统，民权运动已经结束。
My friends and I were convinced he was going to cut all educational funding for African-Americans and make us join the Army.
我和我的朋友们确信他将削减非裔美国人的所有教育经费并让我们参军。
I can never forget hearing, while I was in college, of the Reagan administration's open assault on educational grants and social programs that would ultimately change the face of the country.
我永远不会忘记在大学时听到的里根政府对教育补助金和社会项目的公开攻击，这些项目最终改变了国家的面貌。
To me, Ron Brown represented a certain type of African-American politician, the kind that emerged from the riots of the '60s, with so much promise in the '70s, only to watch black communities nationwide crumble and self-destruct in the '80s under Reagan.
对我来说，罗恩·布朗代表了某种类型的非裔美国政治家，这种政治家从 60 年代的骚乱中崛起，在 70 年代充满希望，却在里根领导下的 80 年代眼睁睁地看着全国范围内的黑人社区崩溃和自我毁灭。
This is the world of my clients.
这是我客户的世界。
A public housing tenant that I represented had her apartment taken over by drug dealers.
我所代理的一位公屋租户的公寓被毒贩侵占了。
The city refused to help her get the dealers out, but they did try to evict her.
市政府拒绝帮助她把毒贩赶出去，但他们确实试图驱逐她。
Another tenant's ceiling caves in and injures her daughter after she had complained for months about a leaky ceiling, and the city doesn't respond.
另一位租户的女儿几个月来一直抱怨天花板漏水，但她的女儿的天花板塌陷并受伤，但市政府没有做出回应。
The city sued her too.
该市也起诉了她。
One wonders why we have scenes like these all over Afro-America with so many African-Americans now inside the huddle just like Ron Brown was.
人们想知道为什么我们在非裔美国各地都会出现这样的场景，现在有这么多非裔美国人像罗恩·布朗一样挤在一起。
Seeing the headlines about his plane crash, I'm struck now by how black America has deteriorated to the greatest extent economically, spiritually, and socially, precisely in the years since so many black Americans gained access to the club.
看到有关他的飞机失事的头条新闻，我现在对美国黑人在经济、精神和社会方面的恶化感到震惊，而正是在这么多美国黑人进入俱乐部的这些年里。
Brian Gilmore is a legal services attorney and author of Elvis Presley is Alive and Well and Living in Harlem .
布莱恩·吉尔摩 (Brian Gilmore) 是一名法律服务律师，也是《埃尔维斯·普雷斯利活着》和《生活在哈莱姆区》的作者。
Our program was produced by Nancy Updike and myself today, with Peter Clowney, Alix Spiegel, and Dolores Wilber, contributing editors Paul Tough, Jack Hitt and Margy Rochlin.
我们的节目由南希·厄普代克和我今天制作，彼得·克劳尼、阿利克斯·斯皮格尔和多洛雷斯·威尔伯，特约编辑保罗·托夫、杰克·希特和玛吉·罗克林。
Musical help from Rumpty Rattles and the Blues Before Sunrise Radio Network with Steve Cushing.
来自 Rumpty Rattles 和 Steve Cushing 的《日出前蓝调》广播网络的音乐帮助。
Some music today in our Michael Lewis story was composed for our program by Chicago composer Eric Leonardson.
今天我们迈克尔·刘易斯故事中的一些音乐是由芝加哥作曲家埃里克·伦纳德森为我们的节目创作的。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Torey Malatia.
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理由 Torey Malatia 监督。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
See you next week with more true stories of This American Life .
下周再见，我们将带来更多关于《美国生活》的真实故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。