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Prologue Ira Glass There's this scene in a book I love, About a Boy , by Nick Hornby.
序言 Ira Glass 在我喜欢的一本书《关于一个男孩》中，有这样一个场景，作者是 Nick Hornby。
The situation in the scene is this.
The situation in the scene is this.
There's this very well-meaning guy who's decided that a good way to meet women would be to join a group for single parents.
有一个善意的人决定加入单亲团体是结识女性的好方法。
He's not a single parent himself.
He's not a single parent himself.
He has no children at all.
He has no children at all.
But this guy, whose name is Will, goes to a meeting and gets caught up in conversations.
但是这个名叫威尔的家伙去参加一个会议并陷入了谈话之中。
He finds himself making up all sorts of things about his non-existent child and non-existent ex-wife.
他发现自己在编造各种各样关于他不存在的孩子和不存在的前妻的事情。
There's a tall, blond woman named Susie at the meeting.
会议上有一位名叫苏西的高个子金发女郎。
She's nervy-looking.
她看上去很紧张。
She's beautiful.
她很漂亮。
They chat.
他们聊天。
They make plans to meet at a picnic for kids and parents.
他们计划在孩子和家长的野餐中见面。
And, comes the day of, Will calls Susie to tell her that his son, Ned, will not be there.
有一天，威尔打电话给苏西，告诉她他的儿子内德不会在那里。
Now, Ned will not be there because Ned does not exist, but Will tells Susie that Ned won't be there because his mom has taken him for the day, at the last minute.
Now, Ned will not be there because Ned does not exist, but Will tells Susie that Ned won't be there because his mom has taken him for the day, at the last minute.
Susie tells Will that Will needs to stand up to his non-existent ex-wife a little more firmly.
苏西告诉威尔，威尔需要更加坚定地对抗他不存在的前妻。
And then there's this passage, which I'm going to read.
然后是我要读的这段话。
It was much more confusing than Will had imagined, making people up, and he was beginning to realize that he hadn't thought it through properly at all.
It was much more confusing than Will had imagined, making people up, and he was beginning to realize that he hadn't thought it through properly at all.
How could he carry it through?
How could he carry it through?
How many times could Ned reasonably be whisked away by his mother, or maternal grandmother, or international terrorists?
内德可以合理地被他的母亲、外祖母或国际恐怖分子带走多少次？
What reasons could he give for not inviting Susie round to his flat where there were no toys, or cribs, or diapers, or balls, and where there was no second bedroom even?
What reasons could he give for not inviting Susie round to his flat where there were no toys, or cribs, or diapers, or balls, and where there was no second bedroom even?
Could he kill Ned off with some awful disease?
Could he kill Ned off with some awful disease?
A car crash?
车祸？
Tragic.
悲惨。
Tragic.
悲惨。
Life goes on.
生活仍在继续。
Maybe not.
也许不是。
Parents got pretty cut up about kids dying, and he'd find the requisite years of grief a real drain on his thespian resources.
父母们对孩子的死亡感到非常难过，而他发现必要的几年的悲伤确实耗尽了他的戏剧资源。
No, disaster was approaching, and there was nothing he can do about it.
不，灾难即将来临，而他却无能为力。
Best pull out now.
最好现在就拔掉。
Walk away.
走开。
But walking away wasn't Will's style.
But walking away wasn't Will's style.
He always felt something would turn up, even though nothing ever did, or even could most the time.
他总觉得有些事情会发生，尽管从来没有发生过，甚至大多数时候都可能发生。
Once, years ago, when he was a kid, he told a school friend, having first ascertained that this friend was not a CS Lewis fan, that it was possible to walk through the back of his wardrobe into a different world, and invited him around to explore.
Once, years ago, when he was a kid, he told a school friend, having first ascertained that this friend was not a CS Lewis fan, that it was possible to walk through the back of his wardrobe into a different world, and invited him around to explore.
He could have canceled.
他本来可以取消的。
He could have told him anything.
他本可以告诉他任何事情。
But he was not prepared to suffer a moment's mild embarrassment if there was no immediate need to do so.
但如果不是迫在眉睫的需要，他不准备遭受片刻的轻微尴尬。
And so the two of them scrabbled around among the coat hangers for several minutes until Will mumbled something about the world being closed on Saturday afternoons.
And so the two of them scrabbled around among the coat hangers for several minutes until Will mumbled something about the world being closed on Saturday afternoons.
The thing was, he could still remember feeling genuinely hopeful right up to the last minute.
问题是，他仍然记得直到最后一刻才真正充满希望。
Maybe there will be something here, he had thought.
也许这里会有什么东西，他想。
Maybe I won't lose face.
也许我不会丢脸。
There wasn't, and he did, loads of it, a whole head full of face.
没有，但他确实有很多，整个脑袋都充满了脸。
But he hadn't learned a thing from the experience.
但他并没有从这次经历中学到任何东西。
If anything, it seemed to have left him with the feeling that he was bound to be lucky next time.
如果说有什么不同的话，那就是这似乎让他有一种感觉，下次他一定会很幸运。
As this scene makes clear, there are different kinds of deception.
正如这个场景所表明的那样，欺骗有多种类型。
And the line between deceiving others and deceiving yourself can get kind of hazy, especially when hope comes into play.
欺骗他人和欺骗自己之间的界限可能会变得模糊，尤其是当希望发挥作用时。
Today on our program, the three kinds of deception-- at least we're claiming that there are only three for the purposes of this radio show-- the three kinds of deception and how any one of them so easily turns into any one of the others.
今天在我们的节目中，三种欺骗——至少我们声称，为了这个广播节目的目的，只有三种欺骗——这三种欺骗，以及其中任何一种如何如此容易地变成另一种。
Act One of our program, Self-Deception, the story of an ex-con who not only told himself a lot of things that were untrue, he created a sort of web of unreality around himself so that dozens of people in a small town started kidding themselves about what was real and what was not real.
Act One of our program, Self-Deception, the story of an ex-con who not only told himself a lot of things that were untrue, he created a sort of web of unreality around himself so that dozens of people in a small town started kidding themselves about what was real and what was not real.
And then, all of them together, decided to make a feature film.
然后，他们所有人一起决定制作一部故事片。
Act Two, Deceiving Others, an African-American lawyer in a fancy Manhattan firm decides that he wants to see what life is like in the exclusive country clubs that his colleagues go to.
Act Two, Deceiving Others, an African-American lawyer in a fancy Manhattan firm decides that he wants to see what life is like in the exclusive country clubs that his colleagues go to.
So he enters one the only way that they would let a black man like him in.
因此，他进入一个是他们让像他这样的黑人进入的唯一方式。
Act Three, Accidental Deception, American tourists in Paris accidentally mistake writer David Sedaris for a French pickpocket.
第三幕，意外欺骗，在巴黎的美国游客不小心将作家大卫·塞达里斯误认为是法国扒手。
At first it makes him mad, and then he starts to kind of like it.
起初这让他很生气，然后他开始有点喜欢它。
From WBEZ Chicago and Public Radio International, it's This American Life.
来自芝加哥 WBEZ 和国际公共广播电台的《This American Life》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Self-Deception.
第一幕，自欺欺人。
It's a truism that a great salesman has to actually believe the lies he tells to make the sale, the way a great actor has to believe in his own part.
It's a truism that a great salesman has to actually believe the lies he tells to make the sale, the way a great actor has to believe in his own part.
This next story is about somebody who aspires to be a great actor, but, in fact, is probably just a great salesman, a charmer in the old school.
下一个故事是关于一个渴望成为一名伟大演员的人，但事实上，他可能只是一个伟大的推销员，一个老派的魅力者。
Alex Blumberg has the story of how he convinced an entire town a bunch of things that, on deeper examination, were more hope than truth.
亚历克斯·布隆伯格（Alex Blumberg）讲述了他如何说服整个城镇的一些事情，经过更深入的检验，这些事情更多的是希望而不是事实。
Of all the tall tales Richard Castellano told, the most incredible one was the easiest to actually verify.
在理查德·卡斯特拉诺讲述的所有荒诞故事中，最令人难以置信的一个也是最容易实际验证的。
He had been in a film with Robert De Niro and Billy Crystal called Analyze This.
他曾与罗伯特·德尼罗和比利·克里斯托一起出演过一部名为《Analyze This》的电影。
He had a total of 16 lines.
他总共有16行。
Almost all of them were one or two sentences long.
几乎所有的内容都是一两句话长。
He sounded like this.
他听起来是这样的。
This is the story of the power that 16 little lines like that can have, how those 16 lines can be parlayed into money, and excitement, and hope for lots of people.
This is the story of the power that 16 little lines like that can have, how those 16 lines can be parlayed into money, and excitement, and hope for lots of people.
And it starts shortly after Richard Castellano finished filming Analyze This and moved with his wife to a tiny community in upstate New York where there's one main street, called Main Street, one block long, and one bridge across the Delaware River to Pennsylvania.
And it starts shortly after Richard Castellano finished filming Analyze This and moved with his wife to a tiny community in upstate New York where there's one main street, called Main Street, one block long, and one bridge across the Delaware River to Pennsylvania.
It's called Narrowsburg and, with a population in the hundreds, it's, literally, a hamlet.
它叫纳罗斯堡，人口数百，名副其实，是一个小村庄。
There's no population requirement to be a hamlet.
成为一个小村庄没有人口要求。
If it were bigger than that, it would be a village, and we don't have a village because it's not enough people.
如果比这个大的话，那就是一个村庄了，而我们没有村庄，因为人口不够。
Dick Crandall is the supervisor of Narrowsburg.
迪克·克兰德尔 (Dick Crandall) 是纳罗斯堡的主管。
Supervisor's what you call a mayor when a town's too small to have mayors.
当一个城镇太小而没有市长时，主管就是所谓的市长。
And he remembers when Castellano-- Richie, as he came to be called-- first moved to town.
他还记得卡斯特拉诺（后来人们称呼他为里奇）第一次搬到城里的时候。
In fact, everyone here has a story.
其实，这里的每个人都有一个故事。
He was a kind of a flamboyant personality, absolutely.
他绝对是一个个性张扬的人。
He wore his dark clothes from New York City and a leather jacket open.
他穿着来自纽约的深色衣服和敞开的皮夹克。
And he swashbuckled down the street a little bit, and hollered, and talked to everybody, and, you know, was sort of a conquering hero-type person.
And he swashbuckled down the street a little bit, and hollered, and talked to everybody, and, you know, was sort of a conquering hero-type person.
He was larger than life, he absolutely was.
他比生命更伟大，他绝对是。
He would walk into what was then the Chatterbox Cafe and say that he was buying everybody's breakfast.
他会走进当时的话匣子咖啡馆，说他要给大家买早餐。
And he would walk in and say, "Hi.
他会走进来说：“嗨。
I'm Richard Castellano, and I'm buying breakfast." And then he would walk out.
我是理查德·卡斯特拉诺，我正在买早餐。”然后他就会走出去。
And he liked to sign stuff, and every time I see him he gives me signed stuff of himself, pictures of himself and a bunch of stuff.
他喜欢在东西上签名，每次我见到他，他都会给我他自己签名的东西，他自己的照片和一堆东西。
He signs everything.
他签署了一切。
The first time I went to his office, he had me run over to the restaurant to get him a cup of coffee.
我第一次去他的办公室时，他让我跑到餐厅给他倒杯咖啡。
And he wrote down what he wanted in the coffee, and he signed that.
他写下他想要在咖啡中添加什么，并签名。
He started talking about his checkered background.
他开始谈论他的格子背景。
He didn't hide it.
他没有隐瞒。
People really liked that story, you know, of a guy who was a con, and look at him now, and he's in a movie with De Niro, you know?
人们真的很喜欢这个故事，你知道，一个骗子的故事，现在看看他，他和德尼罗一起拍电影，你知道吗？
He told people that the name of Narrowsburg was going to be changed to Castellanoville.
他告诉人们，纳罗斯堡的名字将改为卡斯特拉诺维尔。
He said he heisted a armored car, and he got sent up to Attica.
他说他抢了一辆装甲车，然后被送到阿提卡。
He said to me-- he said it to many people-- that he had $2 million stashed away.
他对我说——他对很多人都这么说过——他藏了 200 万美元。
From his bank heist?
是因为他的银行抢劫案吗？
Man 3 Yeah.
男人3 是啊。
I mean, he told me he killed somebody.
我是说，他告诉我他杀了人。
That was about the extent of my impression of him, except he called me Bill, which didn't make me too happy because my name is Dick.
这就是我对他的印象，除了他叫我比尔，这并没有让我太高兴，因为我的名字是迪克。
It isn't easy to get an interview with Richard Castellano.
采访理查德·卡斯特拉诺并不容易。
My first instructions were to call, let it ring once, hang up, and call back again so they knew it was me.
我的第一个指示是打电话，响一次，挂断电话，然后再回电，这样他们就知道是我打来的。
When we finally do meet, it's in Manhattan in his lawyer's office with his lawyer there.
当我们最终见面时，是在曼哈顿他的律师办公室，他的律师也在场。
Castellano's in his 50s, but good-looking in that Hollywood way-- slim, well-dressed in expensive blacks and grays, good haircut.
卡斯特拉诺已经 50 多岁了，但他英俊潇洒，符合好莱坞的风格——身材苗条，穿着昂贵的黑色和灰色衣服，发型很好。
He says he understands why everyone in Narrowsburg was so excited to meet him.
他说他理解为什么纳罗斯堡的每个人都如此兴奋地见到他。
You know, I've met celebrities myself and I still get that-- what's that word-- I was smitten by people I met in movie theaters.
你知道，我自己也见过名人，但我仍然明白——这个词是什么——我被在电影院遇到的人们迷住了。
And I remember, when I was a kid, I saw the Three Stooges.
我记得，当我还是个孩子的时候，我看到了三个臭皮匠。
They made a personal appearance at the Avon Theater here in Brooklyn.
他们在布鲁克林的雅芳剧院进行了个人演出。
I shook their hands.
我与他们握手。
I'm still talking about it.
我还在谈论它。
There must have been some effect, right?
一定有一定的效果吧？
So, I'd want to give them a chance.
所以，我想给他们一个机会。
You know what I'm saying?
你知道我在说什么吗？
Have a little Hollywood.
有点好莱坞的感觉。
In the beginning, everyone seemed happy to have a little Hollywood.
In the beginning, everyone seemed happy to have a little Hollywood.
The town got a charming celebrity with bad boy appeal.
镇上出现了一位具有坏男孩吸引力的迷人名人。
The celebrity got an adoring public.
这位名人受到了公众的崇拜。
Richie opened an acting studio, The Richard Castellano School of Acting, and 42 people signed up for his classes.
里奇开设了一家表演工作室，理查德·卡斯特拉诺表演学院，有 42 人报名参加他的课程。
He and his wife also organized the ambitiously named First Annual Narrowsburg International Independent Film Festival.
他和他的妻子还组织了雄心勃勃的第一届纳罗斯堡国际独立电影节。
He said Narrowsburg would soon become the Sundance of the East.
他说纳罗斯堡很快就会成为东方的圣丹斯电影节。
But, most exciting, he planned to shoot a movie in Narrowsburg, a gangster picture.
但最令人兴奋的是，他计划在纳罗斯堡拍摄一部黑帮电影。
Richie himself was the lead.
里奇本人是主角。
People from the town would fill out the cast.
来自镇上的人将填补演员阵容。
17-year-old Zac Pontier was one of the ones who showed up at the audition.
17 岁的扎克·庞蒂尔 (Zac Pontier) 是出席试镜的人之一。
Well, everybody, and all the kids in the town, and everybody that wanted to be an actor, everybody I knew was there, probably, a huge number of people.
Well, everybody, and all the kids in the town, and everybody that wanted to be an actor, everybody I knew was there, probably, a huge number of people.
And he had people come up and improv scenes.
他还让人上来即兴表演场景。
Like, he told you what to say.
就像，他告诉你该说什么。
I remember the scene that he had most people do was this kid, Dominic, was yelling at his sister about how he didn't like his father anymore because he felt like his father killed his mother.
I remember the scene that he had most people do was this kid, Dominic, was yelling at his sister about how he didn't like his father anymore because he felt like his father killed his mother.
So, I was a little nervous when I came up and he said, "Action," or whatever he said.
所以，当我走上前来，他说“行动”，或者他说的任何话时，我有点紧张。
And I just went totally off on this one girl, and I was like, "How dare you talk about our mother like that!
我对这个女孩彻底生气了，我说：“你怎么敢这样谈论我们的母亲！
She's dead!
她死了！
And if it wasn't for our father, then she'd still be alive!
如果不是我们的父亲，她还活着！
And what about me?
那我呢？
What do you think about me?
你觉得我怎么样？
I have nobody!" It went on and on like that.
我没有人啊！”就这样一直持续下去。
So, after it was over, did you feel pretty confident about it?
那么，结束之后，你是不是觉得很有信心呢？
Yeah.
是的。
He told me I did a good job, and he had me put a star by my name.
他告诉我，我做得很好，他让我在我的名字旁边加了一颗星。
That had to be a good sign.
这一定是一个好兆头。
Zac Pontier Yeah, that was.
扎克·庞蒂尔 是的，就是这样。
I was like, oh, star, that's a good sign.
我当时想，哦，明星，这是一个好兆头。
I'm good to go.
我很好，可以走了。
And so, I don't know, I remember that we didn't have call waiting then.
And so, I don't know, I remember that we didn't have call waiting then.
And so I was like, "Oh, stay off the phone.
所以我就说，“哦，别接电话了。
No one-- Can't talk on the phone." Like, three weeks after that, I talked on the phone very little.
没有人——不能打电话。”就这样，三周后，我很少在电话里说话。
Eventually, Zac got the part.
最终，扎克得到了这个角色。
The movie was called Four Deadly Reasons, and shooting began in the spring of '99.
这部电影名为《四个致命原因》，于 99 年春天开始拍摄。
And it was the real deal.
这是真正的交易。
Giant Italian characters actors with Brooklyn accents wandered around Main Street.
Giant Italian characters actors with Brooklyn accents wandered around Main Street.
People pushing cameras yelled "Cut," and "Action." Guys in vests hollered into walkie-talkies.
People pushing cameras yelled "Cut," and "Action."穿着背心的家伙对着对讲机大喊大叫。
Larry Revene, the director of photography, is a 30-year veteran of over 100 low-budget films.
摄影指导拉里·雷文 (Larry Revene) 拥有 30 年拍摄经验，拍摄过 100 多部低成本电影。
He did Hollywood Hot Tubs, Doom Asylum, Bedroom Eyes II .
He did Hollywood Hot Tubs, Doom Asylum, Bedroom Eyes II .
He says, typically, he can shoot a movie in 10 days.
He says, typically, he can shoot a movie in 10 days.
The formula always includes either a little T&A, or a little violence.
The formula always includes either a little T&A, or a little violence.
This [?
这 [？
has no ?] [?
没有？] [？
pretense ?] to art.
假装？]艺术。
This is low-budget, commercial film, you know?
这是低成本的商业电影，你知道吗？
Almost immediately, things started going wrong.
几乎立刻，事情就开始出错了。
Castellano was constantly missing from the set.
卡斯特拉诺经常缺席片场。
At the end of the first week, the checks he gave the crew all bounced.
At the end of the first week, the checks he gave the crew all bounced.
Stories with headlines like, "Hey, Castellano.
标题为“嘿，卡斯特拉诺”的故事。
Where's My Money?" started appearing in the local paper.
我的钱呢？”开始出现在当地报纸上。
And all sorts of secrets about him came to light.
And all sorts of secrets about him came to light.
His name wasn't Castellano like the former crime boss, it was Castaldo.
His name wasn't Castellano like the former crime boss, it was Castaldo.
He'd never murdered anyone.
他从未谋杀过任何人。
And the armored car he claimed to have robbed turned out to be a shoe store.
And the armored car he claimed to have robbed turned out to be a shoe store.
It was all playing out like a very old and very familiar story-- charismatic flim-flam man comes to town, raises people's hopes, rips them off, vanishes.
It was all playing out like a very old and very familiar story-- charismatic flim-flam man comes to town, raises people's hopes, rips them off, vanishes.
"If only it were so simple," says director of photography Larry Revene.
"If only it were so simple," says director of photography Larry Revene.
"If only Richard were capable of a con like that."
"If only Richard were capable of a con like that."
Well, I think that that would be giving too much credit to him because I don't think he's capable of that kind of thinking ahead.
好吧，我认为这对他来说太过分了，因为我认为他没有能力进行这种前瞻性的思考。
I think he was thinking, you've got some helmets, I've got some swords, let's go to my garage and we'll put on a play.
I think he was thinking, you've got some helmets, I've got some swords, let's go to my garage and we'll put on a play.
And he's going to believe it too because it's happening.
And he's going to believe it too because it's happening.
People are involved.
人们参与其中。
It's all going forward.
一切都在向前发展。
I hope some money shows up, maybe we can pay everybody.
我希望能有一些钱出现，也许我们可以支付给每个人。
And he's playing out his role as this wonderful movie star.
And he's playing out his role as this wonderful movie star.
17-year-old Zac tells this story.
17 岁的扎克讲述了这个故事。
Well into the film, long after the script was done and the parts were cast, Richie was still sending people he'd met to the set, saying that they could get a part in his movie.
Well into the film, long after the script was done and the parts were cast, Richie was still sending people he'd met to the set, saying that they could get a part in his movie.
And this would happen all the time.
这种情况一直都会发生。
Every time the town coordinator came outside onto the porch, there would be more people there, like, "Are you the town coordinator?
每次镇协调员走到外面的门廊上时，那里就会有更多的人，比如，“你是镇协调员吗？
We're looking for the town coordinator.
我们正在寻找镇协调员。
Richie said that we had a big part in his movie.
里奇说我们在他的电影中扮演了重要角色。
In the scene by the pool, I'm the guy that's supposed to be in it." And the town coordinator would be like, "No, you're not.
在泳池边的场景中，我就是那个应该出现在其中的人。”镇协调员会说：“不，你不是。
You're not that guy.
你不是那个人。
I'm sorry.
对不起。
Richie was mistaken."
里奇错了。”
So they were all standing around like, "Oh, can I have your autograph then?" So I felt really bad for all these people that Richie just-- he didn't get it through his head that, for that time, from when they left where he was and drove to where the movie set, they thought he was the best guy in the world.
所以他们都站在那里，好像在说：“哦，那我可以要你的签名吗？”所以我为所有这些人感到非常难过，里奇只是——他没有意识到，从那时起，当他们离开他所在的地方并开车到电影拍摄地时，他们认为他是世界上最好的人。
He wasn't the person that said that they weren't going to be in the movie, he was the person that said they were.
他不是那个说他们不会出现在电影中的人，他才是那个说他们不会出现在电影中的人。
So it made him look like a really good guy, a really nice guy.
所以这让他看起来像一个非常好的人，一个非常好的人。
I think that's why he did it.
我想这就是他这么做的原因。
He liked people to think he was a really good guy.
他喜欢人们认为他是一个非常好的人。
Richie had misled people about who he was.
里奇误导了人们关于他的身份。
He'd made promises he couldn't keep.
他做出了他无法兑现的承诺。
But when you talk to him, you get the sense that he'd hooked himself along with everyone else.
但当你和他交谈时，你会感觉到他已经和其他人一起上钩了。
I'd become what I put in my head, and I'd become that person.
我会成为我脑子里想的那样的人，我会成为那个人。
Like, my wife was just talking.
就像，我妻子只是在说话。
We were watching a movie about Vietnam.
我们正在看一部关于越南的电影。
And we're sitting there, and I said to my wife, "Yeah, you see that guy, he's in the foxhole?
我们坐在那里，我对我妻子说：“是啊，你看到那个人了吗，他在散兵坑里？
When I was in Vietnam, that's where I used to hide.
当我在越南的时候，那是我经常躲藏的地方。
And when it used to rain, we used to go there." She says, "You were never in Vietnam." I said, "I know," I said, "but it sounds good, don't it?" I find it very easy to do, to become somebody else, because sometimes, if I'm not happy with who I am, I could step into that character.
当下雨的时候，我们就去那里。”她说：“你从来没有去过越南。”我说：“我知道，”我说，“但这听起来不错，不是吗？”我发现成为别人很容易，因为有时，如果我对自己不满意，我可以进入那个角色。
During one of Richie's many appearances in court, the prosecuting attorney asked him if he'd ever told anyone he'd committed murder.
里奇多次出庭，其中一次，检察官问他是否曾告诉过任何人他犯了谋杀罪。
He said yes, he had.
他说是的，他有。
The attorney then asked if this was true, and he said no. He explained, "I live the roles I play in my movies."
律师随后询问这是否属实，他说不是。他解释说：“我的生活就是我在电影中扮演的角色。”
The final straw came in August of 2000.
最后一根稻草出现在2000年8月。
For months, advertisements had announced that Four Deadly Reasons would premiere during the Second Annual Narrowsburg Film Festival.
几个月来，广告一直宣布《四个致命原因》将在第二届纳罗斯堡电影节期间首映。
Zac Pontier rented a suit especially for the occasion, set up a video camera in the back of the theater to capture the whole event.
扎克·庞蒂尔特意租了一套西装，在剧院后面架起了摄像机，记录了整个活动过程。
Here's what he recorded.
这是他记录的内容。
Joe Dinki, the screenwriter on the film, came out in front of the curtain, sat on the edge of the stage, dangled his legs over the side and, leaning back on one elbow, the microphone in his free hand, delivered this news.
影片的编剧乔·丁基 (Joe Dinki) 出现在幕布前，坐在舞台边缘，双腿悬垂在舞台边缘，手肘向后靠在椅背上，空着的一只手拿着麦克风，宣布了这一消息。
Everybody raise their hand, anyone remember those summers where everything just stinks?
每个人都举手，有人记得那些一切都发臭的夏天吗？
I wrote this screenplay for Four Deadly Reasons from an original story by Richard's son and another person.
我根据理查德的儿子和另一个人的原创故事为《四个致命原因》写了这个剧本。
And we took it and we made it into a, I think, a very viable, very sellable, very fun, mob film.
我认为，我们把它拍成了一部非常可行、非常畅销、非常有趣的黑帮电影。
So let's all applaud Narrowsburg for their participation.
因此，让我们为纳罗斯堡的参与鼓掌。
Thank you.
谢谢。
Now, the hard part.
现在，困难的部分。
We don't have the whole film here today.
我们今天没有整部电影。
And I really do apologize.
我真的很抱歉。
But, what you will see is 15 minutes, sorry, of the film that shows exactly what we were doing, and how much fun it is, and how great your area looks, and all the people that were in this film.
但是，抱歉，您将看到的是 15 分钟的电影，它准确地展示了我们正在做的事情、它有多么有趣、您所在的地区看起来有多棒，以及这部电影中的所有人。
So, I don't want to belabor the point and keep apologizing because you guys are great, and I think it's a fun film.
所以，我不想重复这一点并一直道歉，因为你们很棒，而且我认为这是一部有趣的电影。
And I know it's going to go places.
我知道它会走向不同的地方。
And I'm having one of those really bad summers.
我正在经历一个非常糟糕的夏天。
What came next was a hastily produced, 15-minute montage of scenes from the movie.
What came next was a hastily produced, 15-minute montage of scenes from the movie.
It was like a porn film without the sex scenes-- awkward dialogue, noodly soundtrack, gratuitous use of bikinis and double entendres, and, most offensive, no scenes with people from Narrowsburg.
这就像一部没有性爱场景的色情电影——尴尬的对话、乏味的配乐、无缘无故地使用比基尼和双关语，而且最令人反感的是，没有来自纳罗斯堡的人的场景。
Laurie Stuart, who works at the local paper, said that when it ended, the audience was stunned.
在当地报纸工作的劳里·斯图尔特(Laurie Stuart)表示，当节目结束时，观众都惊呆了。
You just couldn't believe it.
你简直不敢相信。
Nobody could believe it.
没有人相信。
And then, 175 people just were excused, I mean, literally, excused.
And then, 175 people just were excused, I mean, literally, excused.
The guy stood in front of the audience and said, "OK, that's it.
那家伙站在观众面前说：“好吧，就是这样。
You're excused." And 175 people, in disbelief, filed out of that theater.
你就原谅了。” 175 个人难以置信地鱼贯而出剧院。
I mean, at that point, any good will that folks had was really just frittered away.
我的意思是，到那时，人们的任何善意都被浪费了。
After the premiere, people in town stopped treating Richie as a lovably outsized character and set their sights on revenge.
首映后，镇上的人们不再把里奇视为一个可爱的大人物，而是把目光投向了复仇。
Suddenly, everyone was suing him-- a rental car company, 14 people from his film crew, a half dozen of his acting students.
Suddenly, everyone was suing him-- a rental car company, 14 people from his film crew, a half dozen of his acting students.
Part of the reason they were upset has to do with the real reasons most of them got involved with Richie in the first place.
Part of the reason they were upset has to do with the real reasons most of them got involved with Richie in the first place.
And to understand those reasons, you have to visit someone like John Borg, the biggest investor in Castellano's film.
要了解这些原因，您必须拜访约翰·博格（John Borg）这样的人，他是卡斯特拉诺电影的最大投资者。
There is all my proceeds from my check, which I give him-- checks, $3,000 here, on 8/10/99, $5,000, 7/9/99.
这是我的支票的全部收益，我给了他——支票，这里是 3,000 美元，99 年 8 月 10 日，5,000 美元，99 年 7 月 9 日。
John Borg lives in a double-wide trailer on a small farm off a gravel road in the woods.
John Borg lives in a double-wide trailer on a small farm off a gravel road in the woods.
On top of his dresser, there's a handgun laying next to an English pronunciation dictionary.
On top of his dresser, there's a handgun laying next to an English pronunciation dictionary.
Chickens run free in his yard, and he supplements his social security income by selling their eggs.
Chickens run free in his yard, and he supplements his social security income by selling their eggs.
There's some dispute about just how much money Richard Castellano owes John Borg.
There's some dispute about just how much money Richard Castellano owes John Borg.
Castellano admits to borrowing around $60,000.
Castellano 承认借了大约 60,000 美元。
Borg says it's $154,000.
博格说这是 154,000 美元。
Borg says that, in decades of marriage, he'd never gone out to eat once.
Borg says that, in decades of marriage, he'd never gone out to eat once.
He didn't invest in the stock market and, up until he met Castellano, he had his entire life savings in the bank.
He didn't invest in the stock market and, up until he met Castellano, he had his entire life savings in the bank.
When I ask him why he loaned so much of his money-- by his account, his entire life savings-- to a man he barely knew, he goes to his living room, picks up a video off the top of the TV, and shows it to me.
当我问他为什么把这么多钱——通过他的账户，他一生的积蓄——借给一个他几乎不认识的人时，他走进客厅，从电视顶部拿起一段视频，然后给我看。
He said, "I made movie with Robert De Niro and Billy Crystal." I went to buy the movie.
He said, "I made movie with Robert De Niro and Billy Crystal."我去买电影了。
I bought it in Kmart in [?
我在凯马特买的[？
Honesdale.
洪斯代尔。
?] I've got the movie right here, Analyze That .
？]我这里有电影，请分析一下。
Did it sound suspicious to you at all, or not really?
Did it sound suspicious to you at all, or not really?
In the beginning, no, because he's a very great and a very sweet talker.
In the beginning, no, because he's a very great and a very sweet talker.
And I believed the guy because of that stupid movie right there.
And I believed the guy because of that stupid movie right there.
In the end, one of the most surprising things about this story is just how little stardust Castellano was offering people, a bit role in a so-so Hollywood movie, and how far it took him.
最后，这个故事中最令人惊讶的事情之一就是卡斯特拉诺为人们提供的星尘是多么少，在一部马马虎虎的好莱坞电影中扮演一个小角色，以及他走了多远。
John Borg is like most people in Narrowsburg.
约翰·博格和纳罗斯堡的大多数人一样。
He says he loaned Richie the money because he thought it would help bring people and business to the area, but you get the sense there's something more.
他说他借给里奇这笔钱是因为他认为这有助于为该地区带来人和生意，但你会感觉到还有更多的东西。
I ask, did Richie ever offer to put him in the movie?
I ask, did Richie ever offer to put him in the movie?
"Well," he said, "we're going to see.
“好吧，”他说，“我们会看看。
Maybe going to get you some part." I told him I'm not interested.
也许会给你一些机会。”我告诉他我不感兴趣。
But part of you was a little interested?
但你的一部分有点感兴趣？
Well, if I would be interested, I would have play Marshal Dillon, which I got a picture right there.
好吧，如果我有兴趣，我会扮演狄龙元帅，我在那里拍了一张照片。
At this point, John Borg goes and picks up a framed photograph, resting on a doily on top of his VCR, of a figure with a cowboy hat and a handgun.
这时，约翰·博格走过去，拿起录像机上方桌布上的一张镶框照片，照片上是一个戴着牛仔帽、手持手枪的人物。
So, this is-- John Borg Yeah, that's me.
所以，这是——约翰·博格 是的，这就是我。
Yes.
是的。
That's you?
是你吗？
John Borg Yeah.
约翰·博格 是的。
And that's my gun too.
那也是我的枪。
Uh-huh, and you've got a cowboy hat.
嗯嗯，你有一顶牛仔帽。
Is that at your house?
那是在你家吗？
Yeah.
是的。
This is the part you wanted to play?
这是你想扮演的角色吗？
Wait, wait.
等等，等等。
Not much, you know, because we didn't talk too much about it.
你知道，不多，因为我们没有谈论太多。
But he told me that he going to give me a guy going to be like a law enforcement officer.
但他告诉我，他会给我一个像执法人员一样的人。
So it was Marshal Dillon.
原来是狄龙元帅。
Well, everything [?
好吧，一切[?
ran up for the end, ?] so what can I do?
跑到最后了，？]那我能做什么呢？
The more time I spend in Borg's house, the more evidence I discover of his obsession with the movies.
我在博格家里待的时间越多，就越发现他对电影的痴迷。
He owns dozens of videos in big shopping bags, and on shelves, and stacked on tables.
他拥有数十个视频，装在大购物袋里、架子上、桌子上。
Later in the conversation, fairly abruptly in the middle of a story, he gets up, grabs his cowboy hat, turns the brim up like Soupy Sales and announces that he can act, if that's what you call this.
后来在谈话中，在故事进行到一半的时候，他突然站起来，抓起他的牛仔帽，像汤比销售一样把帽檐翻起来，宣布他可以表演了，如果这就是你所说的的话。
I'm [UNINTELLIGIBLE] guy, and I [UNINTELLIGIBLE] for anybody who [UNINTELLIGIBLE] this.
我是[无法理解]的人，我[无法理解]对于任何[无法理解]这个的人。
Borg calls this his stupid voice.
博格称这是他愚蠢的声音。
And, as near as I can figure out, it's a schtick he developed several decades ago in Brooklyn that he used to entertain his co-workers during long night shifts.
而且，据我所知，这是他几十年前在布鲁克林发明的一个小伎俩，他用来在长时间的夜班期间招待他的同事。
He says he showed it to Castellano, who said he'd put him in the show.
他说他把它给卡斯特拉诺看了，卡斯特拉诺说他会让他参加演出。
That's what he said, he's going to put me in the show.
他就是这么说的，他会让我参加演出。
"I'm going to give you a wonderful part in the movie." And I don't get [BLEEP], not even one minute.
“我会让你在电影中扮演一个精彩的角色。”我没有听到[BLEEP]，甚至一分钟都没有。
He promised me he's going to put me in a movie, and everything else, but he never have.
他向我保证他会让我出演一部电影以及其他一切，但他从未这样做过。
You want to know why Paul Vitti comes here?
你想知道保罗·维蒂为什么来这里吗？
Paul Vitti comes here because his father was whacked here.
保罗·维蒂来到这里是因为他的父亲在这里被殴打。
His father was whacked here?
他父亲在这里被打了？
What do you mean he was whacked?
他被打了是什么意思？
Yeah, his father was whacked right here in that corner many years ago.
是的，他的父亲很多年前就在那个角落里被殴打了。
This is Richard Castellano quoting other people's lines from the movie in which he played a bit role, Analyze This .
这是理查德·卡斯特拉诺 (Richard Castellano) 引用他在片中扮演的角色《分析这个》中其他人的台词。
In our two-hour interview in his lawyer's office, he was defensive and guarded, until I asked him about his favorite actors and favorite movie scenes.
在我们在他的律师办公室进行的两个小时采访中，他表现得很防御和戒备，直到我问他最喜欢的演员和最喜欢的电影场景。
He stood up, rubbed his hands together, and got into character.
他站起来，搓着手，进入角色。
Shut up, [UNINTELLIGIBLE] [?
闭嘴，[无法理解] [？
you ?] [?
你 ？] [？
know.
知道。
?] Why?
？] 为什么？
What's the big secret, Charlie?
查理，有什么大秘密？
Gee, everybody knows what happened to Paul Vitti's father.
哎呀，每个人都知道保罗·维蒂的父亲发生了什么事。
Standing there in the conference room, Castellano blocked me into the scene, positioning me a couple of feet from him.
卡斯特拉诺站在会议室里，将我挡在现场，将我放在离他几英尺的地方。
You're the doctor.
你是医生。
Alex Blumberg Oh, wait.
亚历克斯·布隆伯格哦，等等。
OK, he comes to me.
好吧，他来找我了。
I got you.
我接到你了。
OK.
好的。
No, you don't.
不，你不知道。
Did you read about me in the paper?
你在报纸上读到过关于我的事吗？
Yeah.
是的。
Richard Castellano No, you didn't.
理查德·卡斯特拉诺 不，你没有。
See, I was doing Billy Crystal.
看，我在演比利·克里斯托。
OK.
好的。
Robert De Niro You see my picture in the paper?
罗伯特·德尼罗 你在报纸上看到我的照片了吗？
I don't even get the paper.
我什至连纸都拿不到。
Richard Castellano Did you read about me?
理查德·卡斯特拉诺 你读过我的故事吗？
Oh yes I did.
哦，是的，我做到了。
No, you didn't.
不，你没有。
Well, I didn't even get the paper today.
好吧，我今天连报纸都没有拿到。
You know, that's Billy Crystal.
你知道，那是比利·克里斯托。
Castellano acted out whole stretches of dialogue from scenes in which he didn't even appear, like someone who'd watched the film dozens of times.
卡斯特拉诺在他没有出现的场景中表演了整段对话，就像一个看过这部电影几十遍的人一样。
It wasn't hard for him to package the dream of Hollywood to the people of Narrowsburg.
对他来说，将好莱坞的梦想包装给纳罗斯堡的人们并不困难。
It was a dream he understood.
这是一个他明白的梦。
Well, I know the feeling it gave me, that I'd go to sleep every night still thinking, did I really act with De Niro in that?
嗯，我知道它给我的感觉，我每天晚上睡觉时都会想，我真的和德尼罗一起演过吗？
I mean, you read, hear so much about big celebrity, the guy that made hundreds of movies.
我的意思是，你读过、听到过很多关于大名人、制作了数百部电影的人的故事。
All this talk of the world, he's the best actor in the world.
全世界都在谈论他，他是世界上最好的演员。
Then here you are, standing right with him, shaking his hand, drinking coffee with him, acting across from him, walking with him and, you know, just being involved with him.
然后你就在这里，和他站在一起，握着他的手，和他一起喝咖啡，在他对面表演，和他一起散步，你知道，只是和他在一起。
It's the most exciting-- the next exciting feeling I'll ever get is when I meet God.
这是最令人兴奋的——下一个令人兴奋的感觉就是当我遇见上帝时。
That'll be the closest I can get to how I felt when I met Bobby De Niro.
这将是我最接近见到鲍比·德尼罗时的感受。
Everyone I spoke with in Narrowsburg got asked the same question-- if all this were made into a movie, who would you want to play the part of you?
我在纳罗斯堡采访过的每个人都被问到同样的问题——如果这一切被拍成电影，你想扮演谁？
And all of them said the same thing, from John Borg, to Zac Pontier, to Richie Castellano.
从约翰·博格到扎克·庞蒂尔，再到里奇·卡斯特拉诺，他们都说了同样的话。
They wanted to play themselves.
他们想玩自己。
Alex Blumberg is a producer here at This American Life .
亚历克斯·布隆伯格 (Alex Blumberg) 是《This American Life》的制片人。
Four Deadly Reasons was finally released in 2002, and that's two years after this story first was broadcast.
《四个致命原因》最终于 2002 年上映，距该故事首次播出已有两年。
It played a few festivals and then went to DVD.
它在一些音乐节上播放，然后发行了 DVD。
Coming up, David Sedaris swears he took a bath, really, despite what the tourists say.
大卫·塞达里斯 (David Sedaris) 上来后发誓，他真的洗了澡，不管游客怎么说。
That's in a minute from Public Radio International when our program continues.
一分钟后，国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose some theme, bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，每周我们的节目都会选择一些主题，为您带来关于该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Our show today, The Three Kinds of Deception.
我们今天的节目，三种欺骗。
Act One, if you'll recall, was about self-deception.
如果你还记得的话，第一幕是关于自欺欺人的。
We've arrived at Act Two, Deceiving Others.
我们已经到了第二幕“欺骗他人”。
When he was 30 years old, a Harvard Law School graduate and a practicing attorney making over $100,000 a year, Lawrence Otis Graham decided to take a job as a busboy at an all-white country club.
劳伦斯·奥蒂斯·格雷厄姆 (Lawrence Otis Graham) 毕业于哈佛法学院，是一名年薪超过 10 万美元的执业律师，30 岁时，他决定在一家全白人乡村俱乐部找到一份服务员的工作。
To be clear, he didn't decide to do this because of his own experience at these kinds of clubs, though he'd had some.
需要明确的是，他决定这样做并不是因为他自己在这类俱乐部的经历，尽管他有过一些经历。
Growing up on the border of Scarsdale, New York, there were white families all around that belonged to country clubs, though his family, a well-to-do black family from Memphis, did not.
他在纽约斯卡斯代尔的边境长大，周围都是属于乡村俱乐部的白人家庭，尽管他的家人是来自孟菲斯的一个富裕的黑人家庭，但并不属于乡村俱乐部。
My very first club experience was not a very positive one.
我的第一次俱乐部经历并不是很积极。
It was when I was around seven years old.
那是我七岁左右的时候。
My parents objected to my brother and I going to a country club with our best friends who lived across the street.
我的父母反对我和我的兄弟与住在街对面的最好的朋友一起去乡村俱乐部。
And they belonged to a club that my parents said did not permit blacks or Jews, so they brought us to the club because we insisted we wanted to go.
他们属于一个我父母说不允许黑人或犹太人进入的俱乐部，所以他们带我们去了俱乐部，因为我们坚持要去。
I was seven.
我当时七岁。
My brother was nine.
我弟弟九岁。
But we got into the children's swimming pool.
但我们进入了儿童游泳池。
They had a kiddie pool and then an adult pool.
他们有一个儿童游泳池，然后是一个成人游泳池。
And, within less than two or three minutes, all of the kids got out of the pool.
不到两三分钟，所有的孩子都从泳池里出来了。
And my brother, Richard, and I ran out of the pool too because we thought there was something in the water that was going to hurt us.
我和我的兄弟理查德也跑出了游泳池，因为我们认为水中有东西会伤害我们。
And then we realized this was a club that just did not want us there.
然后我们意识到这家具乐部不希望我们在那里。
My parents had warned me that something might happen, but my brother and I were growing up in what we imagined to be liberal and informed New York suburban communities where we thought that the stories that my parents told us about Memphis and the other parts of the South from the '40s and '50s didn't exist anymore.
我的父母警告过我可能会发生一些事情，但我和我的兄弟在我们想象中的自由主义和纽约郊区社区中长大，我们认为我父母告诉我们的关于孟菲斯和南方其他地区的 40 年代和 50 年代的故事已经不存在了。
I just think about your parents in that situation, of how protective and sad they must have felt for you.
我只是想到你的父母在那种情况下，他们一定对你有多么的保护和悲伤。
But also, at the same time, they must have felt like, well, it's good that you saw it.
但同时，他们一定也觉得，嗯，你看到它很好。
Right.
正确的。
They felt it was good that we saw it.
他们觉得我们看到它很好。
They understood the environment.
他们了解环境。
They knew that nothing, physically, would happen to us.
他们知道我们不会发生任何身体上的事情。
But it was an important lesson for me to learn at that age.
但这对我那个年纪来说是一个重要的教训。
Many years later, as an adult working at a fancy Manhattan law firm, Lawrence Otis Graham and his friends all noticed something.
许多年后，作为一名在曼哈顿一家高档律师事务所工作的成年人，劳伦斯·奥蒂斯·格雷厄姆和他的朋友们都注意到了一些事情。
Many friends who were working in New York, who were black, or Latino, or Jewish, or female, kept sharing stories with me that, in their firms, they were noticing that the people that were moving up had-- in their businesses-- were ones who were brought to country clubs over the weekend.
许多在纽约工作的朋友，无论是黑人、拉丁裔、犹太人还是女性，都不断地与我分享故事，在他们的公司里，他们注意到那些在他们的企业中晋升的人是那些在周末被带到乡村俱乐部的人。
And I started to notice that there was a pattern, that none of us-- none of the blacks, none of the Jews, none of the women, none of the Latinos or Asians-- were being brought.
我开始注意到有一种模式，我们中没有一个人——没有一个黑人，没有一个犹太人，没有一个女人，没有一个拉丁裔或亚洲人——没有被带来。
Again, to be clear about his motivations, he wanted to be part of that network.
再次，为了明确他的动机，他想成为该网络的一部分。
He wanted access to those connections.
他想要获得这些联系。
And he was curious about what, exactly, went on at these exclusive clubs.
他很好奇这些高级俱乐部到底发生了什么。
And that's why he decided to get in the only way that he could, as a busboy.
这就是为什么他决定以他唯一能做的方式介入，作为一名服务员。
For two weeks, he left his high-paid job at the law firm and went undercover, essentially, a black man impersonating a black man.
在两周的时间里，他辞去了律师事务所的高薪工作，开始卧底，本质上是一个冒充黑人的黑人。
He chose the oldest, most prestigious club he could get to, the 100-year-old Greenwich Country Club, in patrician, white Greenwich, Connecticut.
他选择了他能去的最古老、最负盛名的俱乐部，即拥有 100 年历史的格林威治乡村俱乐部，位于康涅狄格州贵族白人格林威治。
It turned out to be hard work, physically demanding work.
事实证明这是一项艰苦的工作，对体力的要求很高。
And he wrote up this account of his experience.
他写下了自己的经历。
March 28 to April 7, 1992.
1992年3月28日至4月7日。
I invented a completely new resume for myself.
我为自己发明了一份全新的简历。
I erased Harvard, Princeton, and my upper-middle-class suburban childhood from my life.
我把哈佛、普林斯顿和我在郊区的中上层阶级童年从我的生活中抹去了。
I pieced together a wardrobe with a polyester blazer, ironed blue slacks, black loafers, and a horrendous pink, black, and silver tie, and I set up interviews at clubs.
我整理了一个衣柜，里面有聚酯纤维西装外套、熨烫过的蓝色休闲裤、黑色乐福鞋，还有一条可怕的粉色、黑色和银色领带，然后在俱乐部安排了采访。
Over the telephone, five of the eight said that I sounded as if I would make a great waiter.
在电话中，八个人中有五个人说我听起来好像我会成为一名出色的服务员。
But when they saw that I was black, the club managers told me I would quote, "probably make a much better busboy." "Busboy?
但当他们看到我是黑人时，俱乐部经理告诉我，我会引用，“可能会成为一个更好的服务员。” “服务员？
Over the phone you said you needed a waiter," I argued.
你在电话里说你需要一名服务员，”我争辩道。
Sunday, April 12.
4 月 12 日，星期日。
Today was my first day at work.
今天是我第一天上班。
Looking in my wallet, I removed my American Express Gold Card, my Harvard Club membership ID, and all of my business cards.
我看了看钱包，取出了我的美国运通金卡、哈佛俱乐部会员证和所有名片。
When I arrived at the club, my new boss waved me in.
当我到达俱乐部时，我的新老板挥手让我进去。
"Good morning, Larry," he said with a sufficiently warm smile.
“早上好，拉里，”他带着足够温暖的微笑说道。
"Hi, Mr. Ryan.
“嗨，瑞安先生。
How's it going?" Glancing at his watch to check my punctuality, he shook my hand and handed me some papers.
怎么样？”他看了看手表，确认我是否准时，然后握了握我的手，递给我一些文件。
"Oh, and by the way, where'd you park?" "In front, near the tennis courts." Already shaking his head, he tossed his pencil onto the desk.
“哦，顺便问一下，你把车停在哪里？” “在前面，靠近网球场。”他摇摇头，把铅笔扔到桌子上。
"That's off-limits to you.
“这对你来说是禁区。
You should always park in the back, enter in the back, and leave from the back.
您应该始终将车停在后面，从后面进入，从后面离开。
No exceptions." "I'll do the forms right now," I said.
没有例外。” “我现在就去填表格，”我说。
"And then, I'll be an official busboy." Mr. Ryan threw me an ominous nod.
“然后，我就会成为一名正式的服务员。”瑞安先生不祥地向我点了点头。
"And Larry, let me stop you now.
“拉里，现在让我阻止你。
We don't like that term busboy.
我们不喜欢“勤杂工”这个词。
We find it demeaning.
我们觉得这有辱人格。
We prefer to call you busmen." Leading me down the center stairwell to the basement, he added, "And in the future, you will always use the back stairway by the back entrance."
我们更喜欢叫你们公交车员。”他领着我沿着中央楼梯井来到地下室，并补充道，“以后，你将永远使用后门的后楼梯。”
He showed me the Mixed Grill, a well-lit pastel room with glass French doors and white wood trim.
他向我展示了混合烧烤餐厅，这是一间光线充足、色彩柔和的房间，配有玻璃法式门和白色木质装饰。
"Guys, say hello to Larry.
“伙计们，向拉里问好。
He's a new busman at the club." I waved.
他是俱乐部的新巴士司机。”我挥手。
"And this is Rick, Stephen, Drew, Buddy, and Lee." Five white waiters dressed in white polo shirts with blue 1892 club insignia nodded while busily slicing lemons.
“这是里克、斯蒂芬、德鲁、巴迪和李。”五名身着带有蓝色 1892 俱乐部徽章的白色 Polo 衫的白人服务员一边忙着切柠檬一边点头。
"And this is Hector and Carlos, the other busmen." Hector, Carlos, and I were the only non-whites on the serving staff.
“这是赫克托和卡洛斯，另外两个公交车司机。”赫克托、卡洛斯和我是服务人员中唯一的非白人。
They greeted me in a mix of English and Spanish.
他们用英语和西班牙语混合地向我打招呼。
"Nice to meet all of you," I responded.
“很高兴认识你们大家，”我回答道。
"Thank God," one of the taller waiters cried out.
“感谢上帝，”一位身材较高的服务员喊道。
"Finally, somebody who can speak English."
“终于有人会说英语了。”
Standing outside the ice room, Carlos and I talked about our pasts.
站在冰室外，卡洛斯和我谈论我们的过去。
He was 25, originally from Colombia, and hadn't finished school.
他今年 25 岁，来自哥伦比亚，尚未完成学业。
"You going to live in the monkey house?" Carlos asked.
“你要住在猴屋里吗？”卡洛斯问道。
"What's that?" We climb the stairs to take our 10-minute lunch break before work begin.
“那是什么？”我们爬楼梯休息 10 分钟，然后开始工作。
"Monkey house is where workers live here," Carlos said.
“猴屋是工人们居住的地方，”卡洛斯说。
I was soon back downstairs working in the grill.
我很快就回到楼下的烧烤店工作。
At my first few tables, I tried to avoid making eye contact with members as I removed dirty plates and wiped down tables and chairs.
在我的前几张桌子上，当我移走脏盘子并擦拭桌子和椅子时，我尽量避免与会员进行目光接触。
I was sure I'd be recognized.
我确信我会被认出来。
At around 1:15, four men who looked to be in their mid to late 50s sat down at a six-chair table while pulling off their cotton windbreakers and golf sweaters.
1点15分左右，四名看上去50岁左右的男子坐在一张六椅桌前，脱下棉质风衣和高尔夫毛衣。
"It's these damned news people that cause all these problems," said golfer number one, shoving his hand deep into a popcorn bowl.
“这些该死的新闻人物造成了所有这些问题，”一号高尔夫球手一边说，一边把手伸进爆米花碗里。
"These Negroes wouldn't even be thinking about golf.
“这些黑人甚至不会考虑高尔夫。
They can't afford to join a club anyway." Golfer number two squirmed out of his navy blue sweater and nodded in agreement.
无论如何，他们都买不起加入俱乐部的费用。”二号高尔夫球手从他的海军蓝色毛衣中蠕动起来，点头表示同意。
"My big problem with this Clinton fellow is that he apologized."
“我对这个克林顿家伙的最大问题是他道歉了。”
As I stood watching from the corner of the bar, I realized the men were talking about Governor Bill Clinton's recent apology for playing at an all-white golf club in Little Rock, Arkansas.
当我站在酒吧的角落里观看时，我意识到这些人正在谈论州长比尔·克林顿最近为在阿肯色州小石城的一家全白人高尔夫俱乐部打球而道歉。
"Hope, I couldn't agree with you more," added golfer number three, a hefty man who was biting off the end of a cigar.
“希望，我完全同意你的观点，”三号高尔夫球手补充道，他是一个身材魁梧的男人，正在咬着雪茄的末端。
"You got any iced tea?" golfer number one asked as I put the silverware and menus around the table.
“你有冰茶吗？”当我把银器和菜单放在桌子周围时，一号高尔夫球手问道。
Popcorn flew out of his mouth as he attempted to speak and chew at the same time.
当他一边说话一边咀嚼时，爆米花从他嘴里飞了出来。
"Yes, we certainly do."
“是的，我们当然愿意。”
Golfer number three removed a beat-up Rolex from his wrist.
三号高尔夫球手从手腕上取下一块破旧的劳力士。
"It just sets a bad precedent.
“这只是开了一个不好的先例。
Instead of apologizing, he should try to discredit them, undercut them somehow.
他不应该道歉，而应该试图抹黑他们，以某种方式削弱他们。
What's to apologize for?" I cleared my throat and backed away from the table.
有什么可道歉的？”我清了清嗓子，从桌子旁退了一步。
Suddenly, golfer number one waved me back to his side.
突然，一号高尔夫球手挥手让我回到他身边。
"Should we get four iced teas, or just a pitcher and four glasses?" "I'd be happy to bring whatever you'd like, sir."
“我们应该买四杯冰茶，还是只买一壶和四个玻璃杯？” “先生，我很乐意为您带来您想要的任何东西。”
"Oh, busboy," a voice called out as I made the rounds with two pots of coffee.
“哦，服务员，”当我拿着两壶咖啡巡视时，一个声音喊道。
"Here, busboy.
“这里，服务员。
Here, busboy," the woman called out.
在这里，服务员，”女人喊道。
"Busboy, my coffee is cold.
“服务员，我的咖啡冷了。
Give me a refill." "Certainly.
给我补充一下。” “当然。
I would be happy to." I reached over for her cup.
我很乐意这样做。”我伸手去拿她的杯子。
The 50-ish woman pushed her hand through her straw blond hair and turned to look at me in the face.
那个 50 岁左右的女人把手伸进稻草色的金发，转身看着我的脸。
"Decaf, thank you." "You are quite welcome." Before I turned toward the kitchen, the woman leaned over to her companion.
“脱咖啡因，谢谢你。” “不客气。”在我转向厨房之前，那个女人向她的同伴倾身过来。
"My goodness, did you hear that?
“我的天啊，你听到了吗？
That busboy has diction like an educated white person."
那个服务员的措辞就像一个受过教育的白人。”
A curly-haired waiter walked up to me in the kitchen.
一位卷发的服务员在厨房里向我走来。
"Larry, are you living in the monkey house?" "No, but why do they call it that?" "Well, no offense against you, but it got that name since it's the house where the workers have lived at the club and since the workers used to be Negroes or blacks, it was nicknamed the monkey house.
“拉里，你住在猴屋里吗？” “不，但是他们为什么这么叫呢？” “好吧，无意冒犯你，但它之所以得这个名字，是因为它是俱乐部工人们居住的房子，而且因为工人们曾经是黑人或黑人，所以它被昵称为猴屋。
And the name just stuck, even though Negroes have now been replaced by Hispanics."
尽管黑人现在已经被西班牙裔取代，但这个名字还是被保留下来了。”
Saturday, April 18.
4 月 18 日，星期六。
Today, while I was wiping down a table, I heard a member snap his fingers in my direction.
今天，当我擦桌子时，我听到一名成员向我的方向打响指。
I turned to see a group of young men smoking cigars.
我转身看到一群年轻人在抽雪茄。
They seemed to be my age or a couple of years younger.
他们看起来和我同龄，或者比我小几岁。
"Hey, do I know you?" the voice asked.
“嘿，我认识你吗？”那声音问道。
As I turned slowly toward the voice, I could hear my own heartbeat.
当我慢慢转向声音的时候，我能听到自己的心跳声。
I was sure it was someone I knew.
我确信这是我认识的人。
"No," I said, approaching the blond cigar-smoker.
“不，”我一边说，一边走近那个抽雪茄的金发女郎。
"I don't think so." "You must be new.
“我不这么认为。” “你一定是新来的。
What's your name?" "My name is Larry.
你叫什么名字？” “我叫拉里。
I just started a few days ago."
我几天前才开始。”
The cigar-smoking host grabbed me by the wrist while looking at his guests.
抽雪茄的主人抓住我的手腕，看着他的客人。
"Well, Larry, welcome to the club.
“好吧，拉里，欢迎来到俱乐部。
I'm Mr. Billings, and this is Mr. Dennis, a friend and new member." "Hello, Mr. Dennis," I heard myself saying to a freckle-faced young man who puffed uncomfortably on his fat roll of tobacco.
我是比林斯先生，这是丹尼斯先生，我是朋友，也是新成员。” “你好，丹尼斯先生，”我听见自己对一个满脸雀斑的年轻人说，他不舒服地吸着大卷烟。
The first cigar-smoker gestured for me to bend over, as if he were about to share some important confidence.
第一个抽雪茄的人示意我弯下腰，好像他要分享一些重要的秘密。
"Now, Larry, here's what I want you to do.
“现在，拉里，这就是我要你做的事情。
Go get us some of those peanuts, and then give my guests and me a fresh ashtray.
去给我们拿一些花生，然后给我和我的客人一个新鲜的烟灰缸。
Can you manage that?"
你能应付得来吗？”
Tuesday, April 21.
4 月 21 日，星期二。
Just as we were all leaving for the day, Mr. Ryan came down to hand out the new policies for those who were going to be living in the monkey house.
正当我们要离开时，瑞安先生下来为那些要住在猴舍里的人分发新政策。
Since it had recently been renovated, the club was requiring all new residents to sign the form.
由于最近进行了翻修，俱乐部要求所有新居民签署表格。
The policy included a rule that forbade employees to have overnight guests.
该政策包括禁止员工接待客人过夜的规定。
Rule 14 stated that the club management had the right to enter an employee's locked bedroom at any time, without permission, and without giving notice.
第14条规定，俱乐部管理层有权随时进入员工上锁的卧室，无需经过许可，也无需事先通知。
As I was making rounds with my coffee pots, I overheard a raspy-voiced woman talking to a mother and daughter who were thumbing through a catalog of infants' clothing.
当我拿着咖啡壶转来转去时，我无意中听到一个声音沙哑的女人正在和一对正在翻阅婴儿服装目录的母女交谈。
"The problem with au pairs is that they're usually only in the country for a year." The mother and daughter nodded in agreement.
“互惠生的问题在于，他们通常只在国内呆一年。”母女俩点头同意。
"But getting one that's a citizen has its own problems.
“但是获得公民身份也有其自身的问题。
For example, if you ever have to choose between a Negro and one of these Spanish people, always go for the Negro." One of the women frowned, confused.
例如，如果你必须在黑人和西班牙人之间做出选择，那么总是选择黑人。”其中一名女子皱起眉头，一脸困惑。
"Really?" "Yes," the raspy-voiced woman responded with cold logic.
“真的吗？” “是的。”声音沙哑的女人冷酷逻辑地回答道。
"Even though you can't trust either one, at least Negroes speak English and can follow your directions." Before I could refill the final cup, the raspy-voiced woman looked up at me and smiled.
“尽管你不能相信任何一个，但至少黑人会说英语并且可以听从你的指示。”还没等我倒完最后一杯，那个声音沙哑的女人抬头看着我，微笑着。
"Oh, thanks for the refill, Larry."
“哦，谢谢你的续杯，拉里。”
Wednesday, April 22.
4 月 22 日，星期三。
Today, the TV was turned to testimony and closing arguments from the Rodney King police beating trial in California.
今天，电视转播了加利福尼亚州罗德尼·金警察殴打案审判的证词和结案陈词。
"I am so sick of seeing that awful videotape," one woman said to friends at her table.
“我实在看腻了那盘可怕的录像带，”一位女士对同桌的朋友说道。
"It shouldn't be on TV."
“这不应该出现在电视上。”
At around 2:00, Lois, the club's official secretary, asked me to help her send out a mailing to 600 members after my shift.
下午 2:00 左右，俱乐部的官方秘书 Lois 让我在下班后帮她给 600 名会员寄一封邮件。
She took me up to her office on the main floor and introduced me to the two women who sat with her.
她带我到一楼她的办公室，把我介绍给和她坐在一起的两位女士。
"Larry, this is Marge, whom you'll talk with in three months because she's in charge of employee benefits." I smiled at the brunette.
“拉里，这是玛吉，三个月后你将与她交谈，因为她负责员工福利。”我对黑发女郎微笑。
"And, Larry, this is Sandy, whom you'll talk with after you become a member at the club because she's in charge of members' accounts." Both Sandy and I looked up at Lois with shocked expressions.
“拉里，这是桑迪，成为俱乐部会员后你将与她交谈，因为她负责会员账户。”桑迪和我都抬头看着路易斯，表情震惊。
Lois winked and, at the same moment, the three jovial women burst out laughing.
路易斯眨了眨眼睛，与此同时，三个快活的女人突然大笑起来。
Thursday, April 22.
4 月 22 日，星期四。
At the end of the day, Mr. Ryan handed me my first paycheck.
一天结束时，瑞安先生递给了我第一份薪水。
When I opened the envelope and saw what I'd earned, $174.04 for five days, I laughed out loud.
当我打开信封，看到我五天赚到的 174.04 美元时，我笑出了声。
Back in the security of a bathroom stall, where I had periodically been taking notes since my arrival, I studied the check and thought about how many hours and how hard I'd worked for so little money.
回到安全的厕所隔间，自从我到达以来我就定期做笔记，我研究了支票并思考我为了这么少的钱工作了多少小时和多少努力。
It was less than 1/10 of what I'd make in the same time in my law firm.
这还不到我在律师事务所同一时间赚到的钱的 1/10。
I went upstairs and asked Mr. Ryan about my paycheck.
我上楼向瑞安先生询问我的薪水情况。
"Well, we decided to give you $7 an hour," he said.
“好吧，我们决定给你每小时 7 美元，”他说。
I'd never actually been told my hourly rate.
我从来没有真正被告知我的小时费率。
"But if the check looks especially big, Larry, that's because you got some extra pay in there for all of your terrific work on Good Friday.
“但是，拉里，如果这张支票看起来特别大，那是因为你在耶稣受难日所做的出色工作得到了一些额外的报酬。
And by the way, Larry, don't tell any of the others what you're getting because we're giving you a special deal, and it's really nobody else's business." I nodded and thanked him for his largess.
顺便说一句，拉里，不要告诉任何其他人你得到了什么，因为我们正在给你一个特殊的优惠，而且这真的不关别人的事。”我点点头，感谢他的慷慨。
I stuffed some more envelopes, emptied out my locker, and left.
我又塞了一些信封，清空了我的储物柜，然后离开了。
Lawrence Otis Graham, reading from one of the essays in his book, Member of the Club .
劳伦斯·奥蒂斯·格雷厄姆正在朗读他的著作《俱乐部成员》中的一篇文章。
He says he wasn't surprised at what he called the passive bigotry of the club members, who, he said, did not think of themselves as racist.
他说，他对俱乐部成员的被动偏执并不感到惊讶，他说，俱乐部成员并不认为自己是种族主义者。
Interestingly, the more pointed language came from club staff who routinely used the word nigger.
有趣的是，更尖锐的语言来自俱乐部工作人员，他们经常使用“黑鬼”这个词。
It was not a reference to me, but it was in reference to them watching television.
这不是指我，而是指他们看电视。
The television was constantly on, so it was, there those niggers are again kind of thing.
电视一直开着，所以那些黑鬼又出现了。
But, two seconds later, they would turn to me and say, "Oh, Larry, can you come, do so-and-so?" I honestly don't even believe that they thought that people would have been offended by the use of the term.
但是，两秒钟后，他们会转向我说：“哦，拉里，你能来，做某事吗？”老实说，我什至不相信他们认为使用这个词会冒犯人们。
When you heard this, were you surprised at all?
听到这里，你有没有感到惊讶呢？
I'll tell you why I wasn't surprised.
我会告诉你为什么我并不感到惊讶。
I wasn't surprised because of what they had put me through in order to get the job.
对于他们为了得到这份工作而让我经历的一切，我并不感到惊讶。
I had three call-back interviews for this job, three call-back interviews for a busboy job.
我为这份工作接受了三次回电面试，为服务员工作接受了三次回电面试。
Wow.
哇。
Lawrence Otis Graham I mean, that is outrageous.
劳伦斯·奥蒂斯·格雷厄姆 我的意思是，这太离谱了。
If you look at what it would take to get a job at IBM, I don't think you'd have three call-back jobs.
如果你考虑一下在 IBM 找到一份工作需要什么条件，我认为你不会得到三份回拨工作。
So it was very clear to me there was something about myself that made them feel uncomfortable.
所以我很清楚我身上有一些东西让他们感到不舒服。
We called the Greenwich Country Club to find out if the club now admits blacks, or Jews, or any minority members at all.
我们致电格林威治乡村俱乐部，询问该俱乐部现在是否接纳黑人、犹太人或任何少数族裔成员。
The club declined to respond.
俱乐部拒绝回应。
[MUSIC - "CHEAP LABOR" BY NEO BOYS]
[音乐 - NEO BOYS 的“廉价劳动力”]
Act Three, Accidental Deception.
第三幕，意外欺骗。
OK, to review, thus far on our program we have witnessed self-deception, the willful deception of others, and how one of those can lead to the other.
好的，回顾一下，到目前为止，在我们的计划中，我们目睹了自欺欺人、故意欺骗他人，以及其中之一如何导致另一个。
David Sedaris is a writer living, these days, in Paris, France, with his boyfriend, Hugh.
大卫·塞达里斯 (David Sedaris) 是一位作家，目前与男友休 (Hugh) 居住在法国巴黎。
He now has this story of accidental deception and how it can send somebody down the slippery slope to both of the other kinds.
他现在讲述了一个关于意外欺骗的故事，以及它如何让某人滑落到其他两种欺骗的境地。
It was July, and Hugh and I were taking the Paris Metro from our neighborhood to a store where we hoped to buy a good deal of burlap.
那是七月，休和我乘坐巴黎地铁从我们家附近到一家商店，我们希望在那里买很多粗麻布。
During the summer months, a great number of American vacationers can be found riding the Metro, and their voices tend to carry.
在夏季的几个月里，可以看到大量的美国度假者乘坐地铁，他们的声音往往会传播开来。
It's something I hadn't noticed until leaving home, but we are a loud people.
直到离开家我才注意到这一点，但我们是一个吵闹的人。
On the first of our two trains, I listened to a quartet of college-age Texans who sat beneath a sign instructing passengers to surrender their seats and stand, should the foyer of the train become too crowded.
在我们的两列火车中的第一列火车上，我听到四位大学年龄的德克萨斯人坐在一个标志下，指示乘客在火车门厅变得太拥挤时放弃座位并站立。
The foyer of the train quickly became too crowded.
火车的门厅很快就变得拥挤不堪。
And, while the others stood to make more room, the young Texans remained seated and raised their voices in order to continue their debate, the topic being which is the better city, Houston or Paris?
当其他人站起来腾出更多空间时，年轻的德克萨斯人仍然坐着，提高声音继续辩论，话题是休斯顿和巴黎哪个城市更好？
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris It was a hot afternoon, and the subject of air conditioning came into play.
[笑声] David Sedaris 那是一个炎热的下午，空调的话题就开始出现了。
Houston had it, Paris did not.
休斯顿有，巴黎没有。
Houston also had ice cubes, tacos, plenty of free parking, and something called a Sonic burger.
休斯顿还有冰块、炸玉米饼、充足的免费停车位和一种叫做索尼克汉堡的东西。
Things were not looking good for Paris, which lost valuable points every time the train stopped to accept more passengers.
巴黎的情况看起来并不好，每次火车停下来接纳更多乘客时，巴黎都会失去宝贵的积分。
The crowds packed in, surrounding the seated Texans and reducing them to four disembodied voices.
人群挤了过来，包围了坐着的德克萨斯人，把他们只剩下四个空洞的声音。
From the far corner of the car, one of them shouted that they were tired and dirty and ready to catch the next plane home.
在车的远处角落里，其中一个人喊道，他们又累又脏，准备搭乘下一班飞机回家。
The voice was weary and hopeless, and I identified completely.
那声音疲惫而绝望，我完全认同了。
It was the same way I'd felt on my last visit to Houston.
这和我上次访问休斯敦时的感受是一样的。
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris Hugh and I disembarked to the strains of "Texas, Our Texas," and boarded our second train, where an American couple in their late 40s stood hugging the floor-to-ceiling support pole.
[笑声] 大卫·塞达里斯·休 (David Sedaris Hugh) 和我在《德克萨斯，我们的德克萨斯》的旋律下下了车，登上了我们的第二趟列车，车上有一对 40 多岁的美国夫妇，抱着从地板到天花板的支撑杆。
There's no sign saying so, but such poles are not considered private.
虽然没有任何迹象表明这样的情况，但这样的电线杆不被视为私人的。
They're put there for everyone's use.
它们放在那里供每个人使用。
You don't treat it like a fireman's pole.
你不要把它当作消防员的杆子。
Rather, you grasp it with one hand and stand back at a respectable distance.
相反，你用一只手抓住它，并保持一定的距离。
It's not all that difficult to figure out, even if you come from a town without any public transportation.
即使您来自没有任何公共交通的城镇，这并不难理解。
The train left the station and, needing something to hold onto, I wedged my hand between the American couple and grabbed the pole at waist level.
火车离开车站，我需要抓住一些东西，于是我把手伸进这对美国夫妇中间，抓住腰部的杆子。
The man then turned to the women saying, "PU, can you smell that?
然后男人转向女人说：“PU，你们能闻到吗？
That is pure French, baby."
这是纯正的法语，宝贝。”
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris He removed one of his hands from the pole and waved it back and forth in front of his face.
[笑声] David Sedaris 他将一只手从杆子上移开，在脸前来回挥舞。
"Yes, indeed," he said, "this little froggie is ripe." It took a moment to realize he was talking about me.
“是的，确实如此，”他说，“这只小青蛙已经成熟了。”过了一会儿才意识到他在谈论我。
The woman wrinkled her nose.
女人皱起了鼻子。
"Golly, Pete," she said, "do they all smell this bad?" "It's pretty typical," the man said.
“天哪，皮特，”她说，“它们的气味都这么难闻吗？” “这很典型，”该男子说。
"I'm willing to bet that our little friend here hasn't had a bath in a good two weeks.
“我敢打赌，我们的小朋友已经两周没有洗澡了。
I mean, Jesus Christ, someone should hang a deodorizer around this guy's neck." The woman laughed, saying, "You crack me up, Martin.
我的意思是，天啊，有人应该在这家伙的脖子上挂一个除臭剂。”那女人笑着说：“马丁，你笑死我了。
I swear, you do."
我发誓，你做到了。”
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris It's a common mistake for vacationing Americans to assume that everyone around them is French and, therefore, speaks no English whatsoever.
[笑声] David Sedaris 对于度假的美国人来说，一个常见的错误是认为他们周围的每个人都是法国人，因此不会说英语。
An experienced traveler could've told by looking at my shoes that I wasn't French.
一个有经验的旅行者可以通过看我的鞋子就知道我不是法国人。
And, even if I were French, it's not as if English is some mysterious tribal dialect spoken only by anthropologists and a small population of cannibals.
而且，即使我是法国人，英语也不是某种神秘的部落方言，只有人类学家和一小部分食人者才会说。
Because they had used the tiresome word froggie and complained about my odor, I was now licensed to hate this couple as much as I wanted.
因为他们用了令人厌烦的“青蛙”一词，并抱怨我的气味，我现在可以尽情地讨厌这对夫妇了。
This made me happy, as I'd wanted to hate them from the moment I'd entered the subway car.
这让我很高兴，因为我从进地铁车厢的那一刻起就想恨他们。
Unleashed by their insults, I was now free to criticize Martin's clothing-- the pleated denim shorts, the baseball cap, the t-shirt advertising a San Diego pizza restaurant.
受到他们的侮辱后，我现在可以自由地批评马丁的服装——褶皱牛仔短裤、棒球帽、圣地亚哥披萨店广告的 T 恤。
Glasses hung from his neck on a fluorescent cable, and the couple's bright, new, his-and-hers sneakers suggested that they might be headed somewhere dressy for dinner.
他的脖子上挂着一副荧光眼镜，这对夫妇的明亮、新的男女运动鞋表明他们可能要去某个盛装打扮的地方吃晚饭。
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris Comfort has its place, but it seems rude to visit another country dressed as if you've come to mow its lawns.
[笑声] David Sedaris Comfort 有它的一席之地，但穿着打扮去另一个国家似乎是不礼貌的，就像你是来修剪草坪的一样。
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris People are often frightened of Parisians, but an American in Paris will find no harsher critic than another American.
[笑声] David Sedaris 人们常常害怕巴黎人，但在巴黎的美国人不会发现比另一个美国人更严厉的批评。
France isn't even my country, but there I was, deciding that these people needed to be sent back home, preferably in chains.
法国甚至不是我的国家，但我就在那里，决定将这些人送回家，最好是用锁链送回去。
In disliking them, I was forced to recognize my own pretension, and that made me hate them even more.
在讨厌他们的过程中，我被迫承认自己的自命不凡，这让我更加讨厌他们。
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris The train took a curve and, when I moved my hand further up the pole, the man turned to the woman, saying, "Carol.
[笑声] David Sedaris 火车拐了个弯，当我把手进一步移到杆子上时，男人转向女人说：“卡罗尔。
Hey, Carol, watch out.
嘿，卡罗尔，小心点。
That guy's going after your wallet." "What?" "Your wallet," Martin said, "that joker's trying to steal your wallet.
那家伙想抢你的钱包。” “什么？” “你的钱包，”马丁说，“那个小丑想偷你的钱包。
Move your pocketbook to the front where he can't get at it." She froze.
把你的钱包移到前面，他拿不到的地方。”她愣住了。
And he repeated himself, barking, "The front!
他重复了一遍，咆哮道：“前线！
Move your pocketbook around to the front!
把你的钱包移到前面！
Do it now!
现在就做吧！
The guy's a pickpocket!"
这家伙是个扒手！”
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris The woman named Carol grabbed for the strap on her shoulder and moved her pocketbook so that it now rested upon her stomach.
[笑声] David Sedaris 这位名叫卡罗尔的女士抓住了肩上的带子，移动了钱包，将其放在了肚子上。
"Wow," she said.
“哇，”她说。
"I sure didn't see that coming." "Well, you've never been to Paris before, but let that be a lesson to you." Martin glared at me.
“我确实没有预见到这一点。” “好吧，你以前从来没有去过巴黎，但这对你来说是一个教训。”马丁瞪了我一眼。
His eyes narrowed to slits.
他的眼睛眯成一条缝。
"This city is full of stinkpots like our little friend here.
“这座城市充满了臭坑，就像我们这里的小朋友一样。
Let your guard down and they'll take you for everything you've got." Now I was a stinkpot and a thief.
放松警惕，他们会抓住你的一切。”现在我是一个臭虫和小偷。
It occurred to me to say something, but I thought it might be better to wait and see what he came up with next.
我突然想到要说点什么，但我想最好还是等着看他接下来会说些什么。
Besides, if I said something at this point, he probably would have apologized and I wasn't interested in that.
此外，如果我在这个时候说什么，他可能会道歉，而我对此不感兴趣。
His embarrassment would have pleased me, but once he recovered, there would be that awkward period that sometimes culminates in a handshake.
他的尴尬会让我很高兴，但一旦他恢复过来，就会有一段尴尬的时期，有时会以握手告终。
I didn't want to touch these people's hands or see things from their point of view.
我不想触碰这些人的手，也不想从他们的角度看问题。
I just wanted to continue hating them, and so I kept my mouth shut and stared off into space.
我只是想继续恨他们，所以我闭上嘴，凝视着太空。
The train stopped at the next station.
火车停在下一站。
Passengers got off.
乘客纷纷下车。
And Carol and Martin moved to occupy two folding seats located beside the door.
卡罗尔和马丁搬到了门边的两个折叠座位上。
I thought they might ease onto another topic, but Martin was on a roll now, and there was no stopping him.
我以为他们可能会转向另一个话题，但马丁现在正忙着，没有什么可以阻止他。
"It was some [BLEEP] head like him that stole my wallet on my last trip to Paris," he said, nodding his head in my direction.
“在我上次去巴黎旅行时，正是像他这样的[BLEEP]头脑偷了我的钱包，”他一边说，一边朝我的方向点了点头。
"He got me on the subway, came up from behind, and I never felt a thing.
“他在地铁里把我抱起来，从后面上来，我什么也没感觉到。
Cash, credit cards, driver's license, poof, all of it gone, just like that." I pictured a scoreboard reading Marty, zero; stinkpots, one.
现金、信用卡、驾照，噗，什么都没有了，就这样。”我想象记分牌上写着马蒂，零；臭锅，一。
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris "What you've got to understand is that these creeps are practiced professionals," he said.
[笑声] David Sedaris “你必须明白的是，这些怪物都是训练有素的专业人士，”他说。
"I mean, they've really got it down to an art, if you can call that an art form." "I wouldn't call it an art form," Carol said.
“我的意思是，他们真的把它归结为一门艺术，如果你可以称之为一种艺术形式的话。” “我不会称其为一种艺术形式，”卡罗尔说。
"Art is beautiful, but taking people's wallets, that stinks, in my opinion." "You've got that right," Martin said.
“艺术是美丽的，但在我看来，夺走人们的钱包就很臭了。” “你说得对，”马丁说。
"The thing is that these jokers usually work in pairs." He squinted toward the opposite end of the car.
“问题是这些小丑通常成对出现。”他眯着眼睛看向汽车的另一端。
"Odds are that he's probably got a partner somewhere on this subway car." "You think so?" "I know so," he said.
“他很可能在这辆地铁车厢的某个地方有一个搭档。” “你这么认为吗？” “我知道是这样，”他说。
"They usually time it so that one of them clips your wallet just as the train pulls into the station.
“他们通常会安排一个人在火车进站时夹住你的钱包。
The other guy's job is to run interference and trip you up once you catch wind of what's going on.
另一个人的工作是在你听到正在发生的事情后进行干扰并绊倒你。
Then the train stops, the doors open, and they disappear into the crowd.
然后火车停下来，车门打开，他们消失在人群中。
If stinky there had gotten his way, he'd probably be halfway to Timbuktu by now.
如果臭臭如愿的话，他现在可能已经到廷巴克图了一半了。
I mean, make no mistake, these guys are fast."
我的意思是，别误会，这些家伙速度很快。”
I'm not the sort of person normally mistaken for being fast and well-coordinated, and, because of this, I found Martin's assumption to be oddly flattering.
我不是那种通常被误认为速度快、协调性好的人，正因为如此，我发现马丁的假设奇怪地令人受宠若惊。
"It just gets my goat," he said.
“这让我很生气，”他说。
"I mean, where's the polizioni when you need one?" Polizioni?
“我的意思是，当你需要警察时，警察在哪里？”警察？
Where did he think he was?
他以为自己在哪里？
I tried to imagine Martin's conversation with a French policeman, and pictured him waving his arms shouting, "That man tried to pick-a my friend's pocketoni!" I wanted very much to hear such a conversation, and so I decided I would take the wallet from Hugh's back pocket as we left the train.
我试着想象马丁与一名法国警察的对话，想象他挥舞着手臂大喊：“那个人试图摘我朋友的口袋袋！”我非常想听到这样的对话，所以我决定在我们离开火车时从休后面的口袋里拿出钱包。
Martin would watch me steal from a supposed stranger and would most likely intercede.
马丁会看着我从一个所谓的陌生人那里偷东西，并且很可能会调解。
He'd put me in a headlock or yell for help.
他会把我的头锁住或者大声呼救。
And, when a crowd gathered, I'd say, "What's the problem?
而且，当人群聚集时，我会说：“有什么问题吗？
Is it against the law to borrow money from my own boyfriend?" If the police came, he would explain the situation in his perfect French while I'd toss in a few of my most polished phrases.
向自己男朋友借钱犯法吗？”如果警察来了，他会用完美的法语解释情况，而我则用一些最优美的短语来解释。
"That guy's crazy," I'd say, pointing at Martin.
“那家伙疯了，”我指着马丁说。
"I think he's drunk.
“我认为他喝醉了。
Look at how his face is swollen."
你看他的脸肿成这样了。”
I was practicing these lines to myself when Hugh came up from behind and tapped me on the shoulder, signaling that the next stop was ours.
我正在自言自语地练习这些台词，这时休从后面走过来，拍拍我的肩膀，示意下一站是我们的。
"There you go," Martin said.
“给你，”马丁说。
"That's him.
“就是他。
That's the partner.
这就是伙伴。
Didn't I tell you he was around here somewhere?
我不是告诉过你他就在这附近的某个地方吗？
They always work in pairs.
他们总是成对工作。
It's the oldest trick in the book." Hugh had been reading the paper and had no idea what had been going on.
这是书中最古老的把戏。”休一直在读报纸，但不知道发生了什么。
It was too late now to pretend to pick his pocket, and I was stuck without a decent backup plan.
现在假装扒他的口袋已经太晚了，而且我也没有一个像样的后备计划。
As we pulled into the station, I recalled an afternoon 10 years earlier.
当我们驶入车站时，我回想起十年前的一个下午。
I'd been riding the Chicago El with my sister, Amy, who was getting off two or three stops ahead of me.
我和姐姐艾米一起乘坐芝加哥埃尔号，她比我早两三站下车。
The doors opened.
门打开了。
And, as she stepped out of the crowded car, she turned around to yell, "So long, David.
当她走出拥挤的汽车时，她转身喊道：“再见，大卫。
Good luck beating that rape charge."
祝你好运，击败强奸指控。”
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris Everyone on board had turned to stare at me.
[笑声] David Sedaris 船上的每个人都转过头来盯着我。
Some seemed curious, some seemed frightened, but the overwhelming majority appeared to hate me with a ferocity I had never before encountered.
有些人看起来很好奇，有些人看起来很害怕，但绝大多数人似乎都以一种我从未遇到过的凶猛程度恨我。
"That's my sister," I said.
“那是我姐姐，”我说。
[LAUGHTER] David Sedaris "She likes to joke around." I laughed and smiled, but it did no good.
[笑声] David Sedaris “她喜欢开玩笑。”我笑了又笑，但没有什么效果。
Every gesture made me appear more guilty.
每一个动作都让我显得更加内疚。
And I wound up getting off at the next stop rather than continue riding alongside people who thought of me as a rapist.
我最终在下一站下车，而不是继续和那些认为我是强奸犯的人一起骑行。
I wanted to say something that good to Martin, but I can't think as fast as Amy.
我想对马丁说一些好话，但我的思考速度不如艾米。
In the end, this man would go home warning his friends to watch out for pickpockets in Paris.
最后，这名男子回家后警告他的朋友在巴黎要小心扒手。
He'd be the same old Martin, but, at least for the next few seconds, I still had the opportunity to be somebody different, someone quick and dangerous.
他还是那个老马丁，但是，至少在接下来的几秒钟里，我仍然有机会成为一个不同的人，一个快速而危险的人。
The new and dangerous me noticed how Martin tightened his fists when the train pulled to a stop.
新的、危险的我注意到，当火车停下来时，马丁握紧了拳头。
Carol held her pocketbook close against her chest and sucked in her breath as Hugh and I stepped out of the car, no longer finicky little boyfriends on their overseas experiment, but rogues, accomplices, halfway to Timbuktu.
当我和休走下车时，卡罗尔把钱包紧贴在胸前，吸了一口气，他们不再是海外实验中挑剔的小男朋友，而是流氓、同谋，正在前往廷巴克图的半路上。
David Sedaris, reading an excerpt from his book Me Talk Pretty One Day .
大卫·塞达里斯 (David Sedaris) 正在阅读他的著作《有一天我说得漂亮》的摘录。
Our program was produced today by Blue Chevigny and myself with Alex Blumberg, Jonathan Goldstein, Starlee Kine, and Julie Snyder.
今天我们的节目由 Blue Chevigny 和我本人以及 Alex Blumberg、Jonathan Goldstein、Starlee Kine 和 Julie Snyder 制作。
Contributing editors for this show Paul Tough, Jack Hitt, Margy Rochlin, Alix Spiegel, Nancy Updike, and consigliere Sarah Vowell.
本节目的特约编辑 Paul Tough、Jack Hitt、Margy Rochlin、Alix Spiegel、Nancy Updike 和顾问 Sarah Vowell。
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[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] Our website, www.thisamericanlife.org, where you can get our free weekly podcasts or listen to our old programs online for absolutely free.
[致谢] 我们的网站 www.thisamericanlife.org，您可以在其中获得我们的免费每周播客或完全免费在线收听我们的旧节目。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight for our program by our boss, Torey Malatia, who's all mad at me.
[资金来源] 我们的老板 Torey Malatia 对 WBEZ 项目进行了管理监督，他对我很生气。
How dare you talk about our mother like that!
你怎么敢这样谈论我们的母亲！
She's dead!
她死了！
And if it wasn't for our father, then she'd still be alive!
如果不是我们的父亲，她还活着！
And what about me?
那我呢？
What do you think about me?
你觉得我怎么样？
I have nobody!
我没有人啊！
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life.
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
Hey, Torey, say something else to the people.
嘿，托里，对人们说点别的吧。
I'm going to give you a wonderful part in the movie.
我将在电影中给你一个精彩的角色。
Promises.
承诺。
Announcer PRI.
播音员 PRI。
Public Radio International.
国际公共广播电台。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。