157: Secret Life of Daytime - This American Life
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00:00 00:00 文字记录 分享此 美国生活 生活伙伴 如何收听 剧集 推荐 关于 概述 员工公告 奖学金 工作 音乐 在路上制作电台 常见问题解答 提交 商品 联系我们 我们的其他节目 商品 关注我们 生活伙伴 订阅我们的时事通讯 整集 切换音频和文字记录同步 文字记录 | 内容第 157 集 | 2000 年 4 月 14 日 157：《白天的秘密生活》 注：《美国生活》是为耳朵而制作的，旨在让人们听到。
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Prologue Ira Glass One, two.
序言 艾拉·格拉斯 一、二。
From WBEZ Chicago and Public Radio International, it's This American Life.
来自芝加哥 WBEZ 和国际公共广播电台的《This American Life》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
And I'm standing at the corner of Diversey and Broadway in Chicago.
我正站在芝加哥泰华西街和百老汇街的拐角处。
As I record this, it's just a few minutes after 3 o'clock on a weekday afternoon here in Chicago.
当我记录这一点时，时间是芝加哥一个工作日下午 3 点刚过几分钟。
And the people are everywhere, even though it's still the middle of the workday.
尽管现在还是工作日的中间，但到处都是人。
In the bread shop just off the corner, I stuck my head in, and there are people at the tables.
在拐角处的面包店里，我把头探进去，桌子旁已经有人了。
Some of them are just sitting there reading books.
他们中的一些人只是坐在那里看书。
I saw two guys speaking Spanish walk in and find their friend, who greeted them in Spanish.
我看到两个讲西班牙语的人走进来找到他们的朋友，朋友用西班牙语向他们打招呼。
And they headed out.
他们就出发了。
A guy in a goatee and a knit cap just walked by wearing a pair of professional grade stereo headphones around his neck, talking to his buddy.
一个留着山羊胡、戴着针织帽的家伙走过来，脖子上挂着一副专业级立体声耳机，正在和他的朋友说话。
In the last 10 minutes, I've seen three different people, all men, wearing professional grade stereo headphones just on the street.
在过去的 10 分钟内，我在街上看到了三个不同的人，全是男性，戴着专业级立体声耳机。
I didn't even know this was a trend.
我什至不知道这是一种趋势。
How you doing?
你好吗？
A guy in a suit's staring at me.
一个穿西装的家伙盯着我看。
In the hours when most of us are at work or at school, there is a whole life going on out here, outside, an alternate world.
当我们大多数人在工作或上学的时候，外面的另一个世界里正在发生着一整个生活。
I would say it's a world with its own rules, but its rules are actually a lot like the rules of Saturday, except taking place during the week and different people taking part.
我想说这是一个有自己规则的世界，但它的规则实际上很像周六的规则，除了在一周内进行并且参与的人不同之外。
This is the secret world of daytime.
这是白天的秘密世界。
Guy just ran the red light.
盖伊刚刚闯了红灯。
Can't get his plates.
拿不到他的盘子。
Well, back in the studio now.
好吧，现在回到工作室。
Today, we take a little tour of the secret life of daytime with five separate stories.
今天，我们通过五个独立的故事来带大家了解一下白天的秘密生活。
Act One, Why Aren't You at Work?, in which one intrepid reporter has a little chat with some of those people who are on the street at 3:00.
第一幕《你为什么不上班？》中，一位勇敢的记者于 3:00 与街上的一些人聊了一会儿。
Act Two, In a World Full of Soybeans, the Men Turn to Love, the surprising story of how people kill time at one Lincoln, Nebraska, grain elevator.
第二幕，在一个充满大豆的世界里，男人们转向爱情，讲述了人们如何在内布拉斯加州林肯市的一台谷物升降机上消磨时间的令人惊讶的故事。
Act Three, The Geography of Childhood, a tale of the secret places that children go during the day in one town in Vermont.
第三幕，《童年地理》，讲述了佛蒙特州一个小镇的孩子们白天去的秘密地方的故事。
Act Four, Invisible Man.
第四幕，隐形人。
A postman explains how it is that he can be so much a part of the scenery that people commit crimes in front of him.
一名邮递员解释说，他是风景的一部分，为什么人们会在他面前犯罪。
Crimes on quiet, daytime streets, as if he is not there.
白天安静的街道上发生犯罪，就好像他不在那里一样。
Act Five, $82.50 a Day, writer Mona Simpson reads from her forthcoming novel about the daytime life of Filipino nannies during the hours in which they run the lovely homes of certain Los Angeles neighborhoods.
第五幕，每天 82.50 美元，作家莫娜·辛普森 (Mona Simpson) 从她即将出版的小说中读到了菲律宾保姆在洛杉矶某些社区经营可爱家园的白天生活。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Let's begin with a few simple answers to a few simple questions.
让我们首先对几个简单问题做出一些简单的回答。
All those people you see in the middle of the day when you run out to a doctor's appointment-- you see them in coffee shops and bookstores in most cities and suburbs-- who are they?
当你中午去看医生时，你会看到所有那些人——你在大多数城市和郊区的咖啡店和书店里看到他们——他们是谁？
Why are they not at work?
他们为什么不上班？
Investigative reporter George Gurley tackled these tough questions on a scenic little island that we like to call Manhattan.
调查记者乔治·格利在一个风景秀丽的小岛上（我们称之为曼哈顿）解决了这些棘手的问题。
Hello, America.
你好，美国。
I did what we all are tempted to do.
我做了我们都想做的事。
On four afternoons, I approached these people and ask them why they weren't at work and what exactly were they doing.
有四个下午，我走近这些人，询问他们为什么不上班以及他们到底在做什么。
We haven't seen each other in about a week and a half.
我们已经大约一个半星期没有见面了。
So we thought, let's get a bite to eat, and it's a beautiful day out, so we'll come to the park.
所以我们想，我们去吃点东西吧，今天天气很好，所以我们就来公园吧。
I'm semi-retired.
我已经半退休了。
I'm old enough to collect social security.
我已经到了领取社会保障的年龄了。
But I still work a few days a week.
但我仍然每周工作几天。
Of course, next question is, what kind of work do you do?
当然，下一个问题是，你从事什么工作？
Don't tell my cat.
别告诉我的猫。
I'm a furrier.
我是一名毛皮商。
Do you think that you've had a productive day today?
你认为你今天过得很富有成效吗？
I got showered.
我洗了澡。
George Gurley What are you doing right now?
乔治·格利 你现在在做什么？
Why aren't you at work?
你怎么没上班？
I'm here on a business trip.
我来这里出差。
George Gurley Oh, OK.
乔治·格利 哦，好的。
There we go.
我们开始吧。
So I sort of am at work.
所以我有点在工作。
George Gurley So you're working.
乔治·格利：所以你在工作。
Right.
正确的。
As it turns out, a lot of these people actually have jobs, the kind of jobs where they set their own hours or work nights or weekends.
事实证明，这些人中的很多人实际上都有工作，他们可以自己安排工作时间、晚上或周末工作。
They're actors, sculptors, bartenders.
他们是演员、雕塑家、调酒师。
I met one guy who takes care of primates and other mammals at the Bronx Zoo, who has Tuesdays and Wednesdays off.
我在布朗克斯动物园遇到了一位照顾灵长类动物和其他哺乳动物的人，他每周二和周三休息。
Released from his cage, he spends those afternoons drinking screwdrivers, guilt-free.
从笼子里出来后，他整个下午都在喝螺丝刀，毫无愧疚感。
Daytime hours are different if you're not working.
如果您不工作，白天的工作时间会有所不同。
They're about going with the flow, one thing leading to another.
他们是随波逐流，一件事导致另一件事。
Alana Canty, a 50-year-old English tutor from New Jersey, was in Central Park purely by coincidence.
来自新泽西州的 50 岁英语家教阿拉娜·坎蒂 (Alana Canty) 来到中央公园纯属巧合。
I was an extra on a TV show, which I got because-- I suffer from depression, and I don't actively pursue stuff like that.
我是一个电视节目的临时演员，我得到这个节目是因为——我患有抑郁症，而且我不积极追求那样的东西。
But I have a friend staying at my house.
但我有一个朋友住在我家。
And he signed up with an agency.
他与一家机构签约。
And they called last night, and I took the call.
昨晚他们打来电话，我接了电话。
And I said, "Do you need any women?" He said, "Sure." OK.
我说：“你们需要女人吗？”他说：“当然。”好的。
So I had to show up at 8 o'clock at the boathouse.
所以我必须在八点钟出现在船库。
And it was a taping of a scene from the program Once and Again, I think.
我认为这是节目《一次又一次》中的一个场景的录音。
And basically, we got $41 for standing in a crowd.
基本上，我们站在人群中得到 41 美元。
So here I am having a lovely day in New York, all because my friend went to an extra agency.
我在纽约度过了愉快的一天，这一切都是因为我的朋友去了一家额外的机构。
It's been-- The most productive I've done today is put my check in the bank.
今天我所做的最有成效的事情就是把支票存入银行。
This is Jonathan Bradley, a bearded 25-year-old.
我是乔纳森·布拉德利 (Jonathan Bradley)，25 岁，留着胡须。
I met him at the Angelica, a theater in SoHo that shows mostly independent films.
我在 SoHo 区的 Angelica 剧院遇见了他，该剧院主要放映独立电影。
It was around 3 o'clock, and a dozen or so people were waiting for their film to be announced or just hanging out.
时间是下午三点左右，大约有十几个人在等待他们的电影上映，或者只是闲逛。
Inside the theater cafe, Jonathan was reading Village Voice after seeing his movie, killing some time before his customer service gig at a website.
在剧院咖啡馆里，乔纳森看完电影后正在阅读《乡村之声》，在网站上进行客户服务工作之前消磨了一些时间。
I asked him if there was anything else he could have achieved today.
我问他今天是否还能取得其他成就。
The only thing I could have done today was maybe, if I was home, I could've made some phone calls for our meditation group.
今天我唯一能做的就是，如果我在家的话，我可以给我们的冥想小组打一些电话。
I'm in a Buddhist group, and we're looking for a space.
我加入了一个佛教团体，我们正在寻找一个空间。
So if I was at home this morning, I could've made some phone calls on that.
因此，如果我今天早上在家，我可以打一些电话来解决这个问题。
What would Buddha say about your day so far?
到目前为止，佛陀会对你的一天说什么？
That's a difficult question to answer because Buddhism is rarely a thing that is dogmatic like that, that says, you should perform this way.
这是一个很难回答的问题，因为佛教很少是这样教条的东西，它说，你应该这样做。
But I think just "use the time wisely" might be a good general statement.
但我认为“明智地利用时间”可能是一个很好的概括性说法。
Across the cafe was Randy Maggiore, a long-haired 34-year-old actor.
咖啡馆对面是兰迪·马吉奥 (Randy Maggiore)，一位 34 岁的长发演员。
He just picked up some head shots and now is spending some free time visiting a friend.
他刚刚拍了一些头像，现在正在花一些空闲时间拜访一位朋友。
But he didn't feel like he was wasting time.
但他并不觉得自己在浪费时间。
For an actor, apparently, simply being awake to the world counts as work.
显然，对于一名演员来说，只要清醒地认识这个世界就已经是工作了。
It's sort of like my errands are, for me, part of my education because being out on the street and walking around and seeing new things and seeing people, I try to be as observant as I possibly can in regard to what I see.
对我来说，这有点像我的差事是我教育的一部分，因为在街上走来走去，看到新的事物，看到新的人，我尝试尽可能地观察我所看到的东西。
As an actor, it's like I constantly study character in people.
作为一名演员，就像我不断研究人们的性格一样。
So every day, right outside my door is an experience, I think, something to learn.
因此，我认为，每天在我门外都是一种体验，值得学习。
This is Howard Moneth.
这是霍华德·莫尼斯。
He told me he does a little day trading, inherited some money.
他告诉我他做了一点日内交易，继承了一些钱。
He was sitting on a bench and drinking a latte outside a Mott Street art gallery he helps run.
他坐在他帮助经营的莫特街艺术画廊外面的长凳上喝着拿铁咖啡。
Wearing a floppy blue hat and shades, he'd been catching rays there for 45 minutes and looked high on life, nearly beatific.
他戴着一顶松软的蓝色帽子和墨镜，已经在那里晒了 45 分钟的阳光，看上去生活得很乐观，几乎是幸福的。
Loafing.
闲逛。
I would say that a lot of my life is loafing, and with spurts of activity in between, sort of trying to make up for loafing.
我想说，我一生的大部分时间都在闲逛，中间会进行一些活动，试图弥补闲逛。
I am loafing.
我在闲逛。
Loafing is me.
闲逛就是我。
What do you think of the 9-to-5ers, people you see going into the subway at 8:30 and all that stuff?
您如何看待朝九晚五的人、您看到的 8:30 进入地铁的人以及诸如此类的事情？
When I was a kid, I had summer jobs where I worked 9:00 to 5:00.
当我还是个孩子的时候，我做过暑期工，工作时间是 9:00 到 5:00。
And I wore a suit and a tie.
我穿着西装，打着领带。
My uncle ran Simon & Schuster, the publishing house.
我叔叔经营西蒙与舒斯特出版社。
And I went down there.
我就去了那里。
And I took the subway to Rockefeller Center.
我乘地铁去了洛克菲勒中心。
And I did this and that.
我做了这做那。
And I go, this is the way to go.
我走了，这就是我要走的路。
And then something happened.
然后发生了一些事情。
Something happened along the way.
一路上发生了一些事情。
And I think I went a little bit off that path, and I never got back on it.
我想我有点偏离了那条路，而且我再也没有回到原来的轨道。
And once you get away from it, once you get away from being able to get up and go to work at 9:00 to 5:00, I think it would take a catastrophic lifestyle change or a major lifestyle change-- that's a bus pulling up in front of us-- to get me back into 9:00 to 5:00.
一旦你摆脱了它，一旦你不再能够在 9:00 到 5:00 起床去上班，我认为需要灾难性的生活方式改变或重大的生活方式改变——就像一辆公共汽车停在我们面前——才能让我回到 9:00 到 5:00。
Do you feel sorry for those people at all?
你对那些人感到难过吗？
No, I admire them.
不，我很佩服他们。
I look at them, and in some ways, they make me feel inadequate, that they have somehow stuck nose to the grindstone.
我看着他们，在某些方面，他们让我觉得自己不够好，觉得他们不知何故埋头苦干。
And I don't decry that as being something that I would never do.
我不会谴责这是我永远不会做的事情。
These people are heroes.
这些人都是英雄。
While people like Howard are basking peacefully in the sun, the heroes are inside at their desks.
当像霍华德这样的人平静地沐浴在阳光下时，英雄们却在自己的办公桌前。
They're looking at the clock, tired of the stress, the forced social interaction, the meetings, the constant threat of having to think, and say things to and smile at the same old coworkers, some of whom have become intolerable, talking on the phone loudly, laughing without justification, making slurping noises during their lunch.
他们看着时钟，厌倦了压力、被迫的社交互动、会议、必须思考、对老同事说话、微笑的持续威胁，其中一些人已经变得无法忍受，大声打电话，毫无道理地大笑，在午餐时发出吸食声音。
So the heroes do what any reasonable person would do.
所以英雄们会做任何有理智的人都会做的事。
They stop working while they're at work, click around, check their stocks, shuffle to the office kitchen.
他们在工作时停下来，四处浏览，检查库存，拖着脚步走向办公室厨房。
Howard, at least, admits he's taking it easy.
至少霍华德承认他现在很放松。
And he's outside, where the daytime hours have their own poetry, like the hours of 2:00 to 4:00.
他在外面，白天的时间有自己的诗意，比如 2:00 到 4:00 的时间。
Between 2:00 and 4:00 is a very interesting time because the feeling of it, the day changes almost the most from 2:00 to 4:00.
2:00到4:00之间是一个非常有趣的时间，因为从感觉上来说，一天的变化几乎是在2:00到4:00之间。
And--
还有——
[INTERPOSING VOICES] George Gurley --the feeling?
[插话] George Gurley——感觉？
Well, the shadows get longer.
嗯，影子变长了。
People start to get a little more energized.
人们开始变得更有活力。
I think this is a-- the evening crowd, the night people, start to sort of stir at around 2:00 to 4:00.
我认为这是一个——晚上的人群，夜里的人们，在 2:00 到 4:00 左右开始有点骚动。
And there's a little more energy.
而且还有一点点的能量。
But playing hooky from the 9 to 5 world isn't all lyrical musings about the changing of the light.
但从朝九晚五的世界逃学并不全是关于光线变化的抒情思考。
None of us is going to feel sorry for any of these people.
我们谁都不会为这些人感到难过。
But there is a special kind of anxiety that's particular to skipping the normal work week.
但有一种特殊的焦虑，尤其是跳过正常的工作周。
It can take a little while to get used to the idea that the regular world just goes on about its business without you.
你可能需要一段时间才能习惯这样一个想法：没有你，正常的世界照常运转。
This is my friend Doug Elliott, who made some money as a lawyer and now doesn't work a 9 to 5 job.
这是我的朋友道格·埃利奥特（Doug Elliott），他作为一名律师赚了一些钱，现在不再从事朝九晚五的工作。
Walking around outside-- because New York is such a business-oriented city-- when people are walking around on the streets during the day, there's this sense of energy and going from this place to that place.
在外面走走——因为纽约是一个以商业为中心的城市——当人们白天在街上走动时，会有一种从这个地方到那个地方的能量感。
And they're heading there, and they have direction.
他们正朝着那里前进，而且他们有方向。
And I'm outside.
而我在外面。
I don't have any place I have to be.
我没有任何必须去的地方。
And I'm not part of that group.
我不属于该群体。
Doug spends his days on no particular schedule, negotiating business deals, writing short stories that so far haven't been published, and puttering around.
道格每天的日程安排并不固定，他会谈判商业交易，写一些迄今为止尚未出版的短篇小说，然后闲逛。
Because I don't have a typical 9 to 5 job, the reality is that I'm never free.
因为我没有典型的朝九晚五的工作，所以现实是我从来没有自由过。
I'm never not working.
我从来没有不工作。
I don't have that sense of closure to the day, ever, ever, ever.
我从来没有那种结束的感觉，永远，永远，永远。
I always feel like there's something more I could be doing, there's something more I-- I walk into the bathroom, and I'll take work in with me.
我总觉得我还有更多事情可以做，我还有更多事情——我走进浴室，然后我会一起工作。
Doug and I headed outside, wandered through Union Square Park, the Heartland Brewery, Barnes and Noble, and ended up at the Old Town Bar.
道格和我走到外面，漫步穿过联合广场公园、哈特兰啤酒厂、巴诺书店，最后来到了老城酒吧。
A few solitary drinkers were there.
那里有几个孤独的饮酒者。
Doug ordered vodka.
道格点了伏特加。
I got whiskey.
我有威士忌。
Now it was almost 5:00 on Friday, the end of the traditional work week.
现在已经是周五快 5:00 了，传统工作周结束了。
That stillness and dreamy quality of daytime was being replaced by Manhattan noise and energy as little groups of 9 to 5ers filed into the Old Town.
当朝九晚五的小团体鱼贯进入老城区时，白天的宁静和梦幻被曼哈顿的喧嚣和活力所取代。
We watch them.
我们看着他们。
They've clearly come straight from the office, excited that at last the drinking begins.
他们显然是直接从办公室回来的，对终于开始喝酒感到兴奋。
At last, they've earned the right to recreation so circumscribed that its duration is even included in its name-- Happy Hour.
最后，他们赢得了娱乐的权利，娱乐的时间如此有限，甚至其持续时间也包含在其名称中——欢乐时光。
George Gurley is a reporter for the New York Observer , for whom he first investigated the secret life of daytime loafers.
乔治·格利（George Gurley）是《纽约观察家报》的记者，他首先调查了白天闲逛者的秘密生活。
[MUSIC - "NICE WORK IF YOU CAN GET IT" BY BILLIE HOLIDAY]
[音乐 - BILLIE HOLIDAY 的“如果你能得到它，那真是太好了”]
Act Two, In a World Full of Soybeans, the Men Turn to Love.
第二幕，在充满大豆的世界里，男人们转向爱情。
Let us now head to a grain elevator on the outskirts of Lincoln, Nebraska, rising 150 feet above cornfields and railroad tracks, holding over a million bushels of corn, soybeans, wheat, and milo.
现在让我们前往内布拉斯加州林肯郊区的一座谷物升降机，该升降机高出玉米地和铁轨 150 英尺，里面装有超过 100 万蒲式耳的玉米、大豆、小麦和高粱。
Meghan Daum explains how the daylight hours are spent there.
梅根·道姆 (Meghan Daum) 解释了白天如何在那里度过。
Grain elevators are, in many ways, the skyscrapers of rural America.
从很多方面来说，谷物升降机都是美国乡村的摩天大楼。
They're the structures in the far corner of the paintings, the towers that pierce an otherwise uninterrupted sky.
它们是画作远处角落的结构，是穿透原本不间断的天空的塔楼。
There are five men who work in one particular grain elevator in Lincoln.
有五名男子在林肯的一台特殊谷物升降机上工作。
And they spend their days at one end or the other of two extremes.
他们每天都在两个极端的一端或另一端度过。
During harvest time, they've been known to work more than 48 hours straight.
据了解，在收获季节，他们会连续工作 48 小时以上。
But in the winter and early spring, when crops lie dormant under layers of frost, and just a few farm trucks pull in over the course of the day, the workers at this grain elevator have something else on their minds.
但在冬天和早春，当农作物在层层霜下休眠，一天中只有几辆农用卡车停下来时，这个谷物升降机的工人们就有其他的想法了。
We have so much to teach each other.
我们有很多东西要互相教导。
And I have so much to give to you and so much to share with you.
我有很多东西可以给你，也有很多东西可以与你分享。
Yeah, we are working yet.
是的，我们还在工作。
But every now and then, if a truck comes in during a commercial, it's kind of nice.
但时不时地，如果一辆卡车在广告期间开进来，那就太好了。
It's when they come in right in the middle of the heated up things is when it gets kind of bad.
当他们在激烈的事情中间介入时，事情就会变得很糟糕。
I can't wait to give birth to you.
我等不及要生下你了。
And I can't wait to just kiss your face, hold you in my arms.
我迫不及待地想亲吻你的脸，把你抱在怀里。
How much you want to bet she has a miscarriage?
你想打赌她流产多少？
That could well be.
很可能是这样。
Meghan Daum Every day at 11:00 AM, these men stop what they're doing, get out their sandwiches or heat up some Chinese food, and gather together in front of the small television set in the office to watch the soap opera The Young and the Restless.
Meghan Daum 每天上午 11:00，这些人都会停下手中的事情，拿出三明治或热一些中餐，聚集在办公室的小电视机前观看肥皂剧《躁动不安的年轻人》。
They've been watching it for years.
他们已经关注它很多年了。
This is no casual viewing.
这不是随意观看。
It's an obsession.
这是一种痴迷。
I have a question for you, a very important question to me.
我有一个问题要问你，一个对我来说非常重要的问题。
Son, I need to understand why a boy your age, with everything going for you, feels the need to obliterate himself with alcohol.
儿子，我需要明白为什么一个像你这样年纪的男孩，在一切都顺顺利利的情况下，会觉得有必要用酒精来毁灭自己。
Because you did.
因为你做到了。
Noel Mom's a notorious alcoholic.
诺埃尔妈妈是一个臭名昭著的酒鬼。
Oh, really?
哦真的吗？
Noel Yeah.
诺埃尔 是的。
She lost another son to alcohol some years ago.
几年前，她又因酗酒失去了另一个儿子。
The five men who work in this elevator seem, for the most part, just like the kind of guys you'd expect to load grain off of trucks and onto trains by the ton.
在这台电梯里工作的五个人在很大程度上看起来就像是那种将成吨的谷物从卡车上装到火车上的人。
Most are thick and burly.
大多数人又粗又壮。
They have calloused hands, wear heavy work boots, and are often completely covered in dust.
他们的手长满了老茧，穿着厚重的工作靴，而且常常全身沾满灰尘。
But their knowledge of The Young and the Restless is encyclopedic.
但他们对年轻人和躁动不安的人的了解是百科全书式的。
They talk about it the way guys talk about sports.
他们像谈论体育一样谈论它。
They do a lot of yelling at the screen.
他们经常对着屏幕大喊大叫。
They argue about who's stalking the young, saucy Victoria Newman.
他们争论谁在跟踪年轻俏皮的维多利亚·纽曼。
They have lengthy discussions about a business tycoon's missing sperm sample and where it will end up.
他们就一位商业大亨丢失的精子样本及其最终去向进行了长时间的讨论。
Noel, the supervisor, patiently explains to me how it is that Mackenzie, an orphan, ended up in Genoa City, the fictional setting of the show.
导演诺埃尔耐心地向我解释麦肯齐这个孤儿是如何来到剧中虚构的场景热那亚市的。
Her father was a missionary in India and was presumed dead in a raid on a village.
她的父亲是印度的一名传教士，据推测在一次村庄袭击中死亡。
And he didn't even know he had this daughter, I don't think.
我认为他甚至不知道他有这个女儿。
He'd had it by a woman in town.
他是城里一个女人给他买的。
And I don't know who she was, where she's gone.
我不知道她是谁，也不知道她去了哪里。
She's in St. Louis right now because Jill went to St. Louis looking for the mother to find out if Mac is Brock's daughter.
她现在在圣路易斯，因为吉尔去圣路易斯寻找母亲，以确定麦克是否是布洛克的女儿。
That's Rick.
那是瑞克。
He's 39 and has been doing grain elevator work for 10 years.
他今年 39 岁，从事谷物升降机工作已有 10 年。
He's married, has a six-year-old son and a job on the side as an exterminator.
他已婚，有一个六岁的儿子，兼职是灭虫员。
If I'm at home by myself and my wife and my kids are gone, I'll sit there, and I'll pop a beer about 11 o'clock and sit there and watch soaps.
如果我一个人在家，妻子和孩子都不在家，我会坐在那里，在 11 点左右喝杯啤酒，然后坐在那里看肥皂剧。
When he was a kid in the early '70s, he watched The Young and the Restless with his mom and his sisters.
当他还是个 70 年代初的孩子时，他就和妈妈和姐妹们一起观看了《年轻人与躁动不安》。
And these days, he's responsible for telling his wife what's going on in the show.
这些天，他负责告诉妻子剧中发生的事情。
He's even been known to read Soap Opera Digest while standing in line at the supermarket.
他甚至在超市排队时阅读《肥皂剧文摘》。
So what do a bunch of relatively macho guys see in a show that's supposedly targeted at women?
那么，一群相对有男子气概的男人在一部据称针对女性的节目中看到了什么？
I can tell you that when the men at the grain elevator watch, they keep a running commentary during the love scenes, but sit in rapt attention when the characters talk business.
我可以告诉你，当谷物电梯里的男人们观看时，他们会在爱情场景中不停地评论，但当角色谈论生意时，他们会全神贯注地坐着。
And maybe the show was designed with this in mind.
也许这部剧的设计就是考虑到了这一点。
For every mushy relationship story, there are bank buyouts and shady business deals involving Jack Abbott's company, Jabot, and Jack's nemesis, Victor Newman.
对于每一个糊涂的关系故事，都涉及银行收购和涉及杰克·阿伯特的公司 Jabot 和杰克的宿敌维克多·纽曼的不正当商业交易。
That's really the best part of the show, Victor trying to get back Jabot and buying all the banks and all that.
这确实是这部剧最精彩的部分，维克多试图夺回贾伯特并购买所有银行之类的东西。
We watch another one.
我们看另一部。
It's Bold and Beautiful .
它大胆而美丽。
And everybody's crying on that show at least once a day.
每个人每天至少在那个节目中哭泣一次。
It's more mushy.
更糊了。
It was pretty good for about a year.
用了一年左右，还是很不错的。
And then all of a sudden, it just died off.
然后突然之间，它就消失了。
But we still watch it, though.
但我们仍然在观看。
For these guys, the fascination with The Young and the Restless has a lot to do with one character, the enigmatic, inscrutable Victor Newman.
对于这些人来说，对《躁动不安的年轻人》的迷恋与一个角色有很大关系，那就是神秘莫测的维克多·纽曼。
When Victor's on screen, the men are silent.
当维克多出现在屏幕上时，男人们都保持沉默。
With his ambiguous, foreign sounding accent, the dignified gray around his temples, and the trademark leather sport coat that suggests he's far too important to wear an ordinary business suit, Victor is power incarnate.
维克多带着模棱两可的外国口音，太阳穴周围庄严的灰色，标志性的皮革运动外套表明他太重要了，不能穿普通的西装，维克多是权力的化身。
You can't describe him without sounding like a soap opera.
你无法描述他而不听起来像肥皂剧。
Women want him.
女人想要他。
Men idolize him.
男人们崇拜他。
The way he talks, and he's got that whisper, and when he raises his voice-- When he raises his voice, that means he's pretty upset about something.
他说话的方式，他有那种耳语，当他提高声音时——当他提高声音时，这意味着他对某件事感到非常不安。
And whatever Victor wants, Victor gets, because he's got all the money that you can think of.
无论维克多想要什么，维克多都会得到，因为他拥有你能想到的所有钱。
He's buying all the banks so he can get back at Jack.
他要买下所有的银行，这样他就可以报复杰克。
And he told Jack, when he wanted to get company back-- he walked into his office where Jack was sitting in the chair acting like a big hot-shot.
他告诉杰克，当他想重新获得公司时，他走进自己的办公室，杰克坐在椅子上，表现得像个大人物。
He put his hands in his pockets, and he leaned back.
他把手插在口袋里，向后靠去。
And he whispered, and he whispered.
他低声说，他低声说。
And then he gradually walked over to the fireplace.
然后他缓缓走到了壁炉边。
He grabbed this picture off the fireplace, turned around, and slapped it on top of some kind of trophy, and screamed and says, "I'm going to crush you.
他从壁炉上抓起这张照片，转过身来，把它放在某种奖杯上，尖叫着说：“我要压碎你了。
Just remember that." And then he put his hands on this collar, tucked in, shrugged his shoulders, and he walked out like a gentleman.
只要记住这一点就可以了。”然后他把手放在这个衣领上，塞进去，耸耸肩，像个绅士一样走了出去。
An then Jack, I'm telling you, he was scared to death.
当时的杰克，我告诉你，他吓得要死。
Victor is a force that seems to spin like a tornado across the fields that surround the elevator.
维克多的力量似乎像龙卷风一样席卷电梯周围的田野。
Around here, soaps are watched as closely as the weather.
在这里，肥皂剧就像天气一样受到密切关注。
We work in a farming area.
我们在农业区工作。
And a lot of the farmers I talk to, they'll come in with their grain.
我采访过的很多农民，他们都会带着谷物进来。
Or if they're out in the field, they always take their lunch.
或者，如果他们在野外，他们总是会带午餐。
And I would say, probably 90% of the farmers and their wives come in, have their lunch, and watch the soaps.
我想说，可能 90% 的农民和他们的妻子进来，吃午饭，看肥皂剧。
We'll sit here and talk on the phone even about that.
我们甚至会坐在这里通过电话讨论这个问题。
But they're taking that lunch break, and they're watching the show.
但他们正在午休，正在看节目。
During the slow months, the TV will stay on after The Young and the Restless.
在淡季的几个月里，电视将在《年轻人与躁动不安》之后继续播放。
And if the men aren't doing anything else, they'll come into the office and watch other soaps.
如果男人们不做任何其他事情，他们就会走进办公室看其他肥皂剧。
But in a month or so, late spring will warm up the fields.
但再过一个月左右，晚春田地就会变暖。
And things will get busier and busier until harvest time, when the work will be nonstop.
事情会变得越来越忙，直到收获季节，工作才会不间断。
As Noel dumps 250 bushels of soybeans into the truck pit, a load from one of just a few trucks that came in today, you can only imagine what it's like to get 100 or more of these trucks every day, and then spend the night loading them into trains a mile long.
当诺埃尔将 250 蒲式耳大豆倾倒到卡车坑中时（今天运来的几辆卡车中的一辆），你只能想象每天有 100 辆或更多这样的卡车，然后整夜将它们装载到一英里长的火车上是什么感觉。
These are great beans.
这些都是很棒的豆子。
This year, almost all the crops in Nebraska were real good quality.
今年，内布拉斯加州几乎所有农作物的品质都非常好。
These guys might miss some episodes come fall.
这些人可能会错过秋天的一些剧集。
By then, the stalker might have been caught.
到时候，跟踪狂可能已经被抓住了。
The father of Ashley's baby might be revealed.
阿什利孩子的父亲可能会被揭晓。
And Victor's sperm sample might have been put to use.
维克多的精子样本可能已被投入使用。
But part of the beauty of soaps is that they move so slowly, that you can miss months, even years, and still be able to catch up in a few days.
但肥皂的美妙之处在于它们移动得很慢，你可能会错过几个月甚至几年，但仍然能够在几天内赶上。
Soaps are nothing if not daily reminders of the virtues of patience.
肥皂如果不能每天提醒人们耐心的美德，那就没什么用了。
Just as the farming community waits for the seasons to change, waits for the corn to grow, waits for the price of grain to rise enough so that they might turn a profit, they wait for something to actually happen on The Young and the Restless .
正如农业社会等待季节变化，等待玉米生长，等待粮食价格上涨到足以盈利一样，他们等待着年轻人和不安分的事情真正发生。
We hear enough these days about how fast the world is moving.
这些天我们已经听够了有关世界发展速度有多快的说法。
Maybe it's good to know that there's still a place in America where stalkers are at large and sperm samples are up for grabs, but where time moves slowly.
也许很高兴知道美国仍然有一个地方跟踪者逍遥法外，精子样本可供争夺，但时间过得很慢。
Meghan Daum in Lincoln.
梅根·道姆在林肯。
Coming up, neither rain nor sleet nor snow-- if you know what I mean.
即将到来，既不会下雨，也不会下雨夹雪，也不会下雪——如果你明白我的意思的话。
Delivering the mail on the West side of Chicago, where the only people in the streets during the day are drug dealers-- do people even use the word snow for drugs anymore?
在芝加哥西区投递邮件，那里白天街上只有毒贩——人们还用“雪”这个词来形容毒品吗？
We don't even bother to answer that question.
我们甚至懒得回答这个问题。
In a minute, from Public Radio International, when our program continues.
稍后，国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life .
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week in our program, of course, we choose a theme, bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，我们每周的节目都会选择一个主题，为您带来关于该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Our program today, The Secret Life of Daytime, stories of all the things that are happening in the world unnoticed in broad daylight, things that many of us miss because we are stuck at our jobs.
我们今天的节目《白天的秘密生活》讲述了光天化日之下世界上发生的所有不被注意的事情，以及我们许多人因为困在工作中而错过的事情。
We've arrived at Act Three of our show.
我们已经到了节目的第三幕了。
Act Three, The Geography of Childhood.
第三幕，童年的地理。
In the early 1970s, a geographer named Roger Hart did a study of exactly where it is that children go during the daytime.
20 世纪 70 年代初，一位名叫罗杰·哈特 (Roger Hart) 的地理学家对孩子们白天去哪里进行了一项研究。
For two years, he followed 86 children, all the children in a small town in Vermont, during the hours when parents were away at work.
两年来，他在父母外出工作期间跟踪了 86 名儿童，所有这些孩子都生活在佛蒙特州的一个小镇上。
In this rural setting, nearly every child, nearly every one, had a secret hiding place somewhere, a spot that adults usually did not know about.
在这个乡村环境中，几乎每个孩子，几乎每个人，在某个地方都有一个秘密的藏身之处，一个大人通常不知道的地方。
One little boy made a clearing in his parents' crop fields.
一个小男孩在他父母的农田里开辟了一块空地。
Some sisters had a spot in an opening in the woods, a kind of playhouse with rocks from the river, that were set up as a pretend telephone and a pretend TV.
一些姐妹在树林里的一个空地上找到了一个地方，一种用河里的石头堆起来的剧场，被设置成假装的电话和假装的电视。
The extraordinary quantity of these places in those days-- that is, in a town where children were free to do what they wanted-- sometimes, I would walk through a field of very tall grass, and then, find in the middle of the field a couple of shelves, beautifully decorated with lots of little objects on it, but no walls.
在那些日子里，这些地方的数量非常多——也就是说，在一个孩子们可以自由地做他们想做的事情的小镇上——有时，我会走过一片很高的草地，然后，在草地中央发现几个架子，上面装饰得很漂亮，上面有很多小东西，但没有墙壁。
And this was their special place.
这是他们特别的地方。
Two children who I was just chatting with one day-- and I think they were four and five years old-- and they said, "Oh, yes, we'd love to show you our fern house." Well, I'd never seen a fern house before, so I followed them.
有一天我刚刚和两个孩子聊天——我想他们分别是四岁和五岁——他们说：“哦，是的，我们很乐意带你看看我们的蕨屋。”嗯，我以前从未见过蕨类植物的房子，所以我跟着他们。
And they had this little place that was a bower, really, of evergreen trees.
他们有一个小地方，实际上是常青树的凉亭。
And beneath it was fern that they would pick and then turn into beds and pillows.
在它下面是蕨类植物，他们会采摘它们，然后把它们变成床和枕头。
There were imaginary windows which they shared in their agreement the location of, but which could not be seen.
有一些想象中的窗户，他们在协议中分享了它们的位置，但看不见。
And it was a very, very beautiful space.
那是一个非常非常美丽的空间。
It sounds so romantic.
听起来很浪漫。
Roger Hart Yeah.
罗杰·哈特 是的。
The fact was, I happened to choose a small town then because I wanted something that was manageable for me to look at.
事实上，我当时碰巧选择了一个小镇，因为我想要一些我可以管理的东西去看看。
Later on, I came and did research in New York City.
后来，我来到纽约做研究。
And certainly, in this city, there's been lots of places that are also very special, built, created by children as part of their desire, commonly with one or two close friends, to create a special place that's removed from the adult world-- often on the rooftop, sometimes in the cellar, sometimes beneath a stoop.
当然，在这座城市里，有很多地方也非常特别，是由孩子们建造和创造的，作为他们愿望的一部分，通常是和一两个亲密的朋友一起，创造一个远离成人世界的特殊地方——通常在屋顶，有时在地窖，有时在门廊下。
Why do you think it is that it was so common for children to have a secret place?
你认为为什么孩子们拥有一个秘密的地方如此普遍？
They're engaging and developing a sense of self as something separate from others.
他们正在参与并发展一种与他人不同的自我意识。
That is a psychological struggle that takes a lifetime, from a very early age, when children, for example, turn a chair upside down and go inside it, and say, "This is my place." They're engaging in that kind of developing a sense of self.
这是一种需要一生的心理斗争，从很小的时候开始，例如，当孩子们把椅子倒过来并走进去并说：“这是我的地方。”他们正在致力于这种自我意识的发展。
Did you make actual maps?
你制作了真实的地图吗？
Roger Hart Oh, yes.
罗杰·哈特 哦，是的。
I've got one map of just three houses, which show all the places they transformed in one year.
我有一张只有三栋房子的地图，上面显示了它们在一年内改变的所有地方。
And there was, I think, seven children there.
我想那里有七个孩子。
And there's probably 14 locations that are either little houses or racing tracks, or villages or cities, or airports that they built.
大概有 14 个地点，要么是小房子，要么是赛道，要么是村庄，要么是城市，要么是他们建造的机场。
In a small town like you were studying, was daytime, in particular, the province of children?
在你就读的小镇里，白天是孩子们的专属区域吗？
The town kind of belonged to the kids?
这个小镇是属于孩子们的吗？
Yes, I think that used to be true even in cities.
是的，我认为即使在城市里过去也是如此。
The greatest users of the outdoor space were children and, ironically, the elderly.
户外空间的最大使用者是儿童，讽刺的是，还有老年人。
They're the people who have to find close to home an interesting environment for themselves.
他们是那些必须在离家较近的地方为自己找到一个有趣的环境的人。
So the world has changed enormously for children.
对于孩子们来说，世界已经发生了巨大的变化。
Children now spend much more of their time in either programmed activities or supervised activities, under surveillance, you might say.
您可能会说，孩子们现在将更多的时间花在有计划的活动或监督下的活动上。
Children are not outside.
孩子们不在外面。
You don't see kids in the street in most neighborhoods.
在大多数街区，你在街上看不到孩子。
You don't hear them at night or in the early evening like you used to.
你不会像以前那样在晚上或傍晚听到它们的声音。
Well, I know with kids who live here in the city of Chicago, parents are careful about their kids, simply won't let them out.
嗯，我知道住在芝加哥市的孩子们，父母都很小心他们的孩子，根本不会让他们出去。
And the worse the neighborhood, the more strictly the kids are controlled.
而且社区越差，孩子们受到的管控就越严格。
And so their daytime space, literally, is just in the living room in front of the television.
因此，他们的白天空间实际上就是在客厅里的电视机前。
Yeah.
是的。
Even in the daytime, also, rural America children don't have the freedom they used to.
即使在白天，美国农村的孩子也没有以前那样的自由。
There's fears everywhere.
到处都是恐惧。
Geographer Roger Hart.
地理学家罗杰·哈特。
He published his findings in a book called Children's Experience of Place, now out of print.
他将自己的发现发表在一本名为《儿童的场所体验》的书中，该书现已绝版。
You can see a few of his maps on the geography of childhood on the This American Life website, www.thislife.org.
您可以在“This American Life”网站 www.thislife.org 上看到他绘制的一些有关童年地理的地图。
Act Four, Invisible Man.
第四幕，隐形人。
It's not just children and the elderly who are left in quiet, residential neighborhoods when the working people have vacated to go to work.
当劳动人民离开去上班时，不仅仅是儿童和老人被留在安静的住宅区。
Other people pass through.
其他人都经过。
They see things.
他们看到事情。
This American Life producer Alex Bumberg spent a few hours with a Chicago postman to find out what exactly it is that he sees.
《美国生活》的制片人亚历克斯·邦伯格花了几个小时与一位芝加哥邮递员交谈，以了解他到底看到了什么。
When a botanist walks through a neighborhood, he might classify the houses he sees by what kind of trees are growing in the yard.
当植物学家走过一个街区时，他可能会根据院子里生长的树木类型对他看到的房屋进行分类。
That one has an old maple growing next to it, this one an oak.
那个旁边长着一棵老枫树，这个旁边长着一棵橡树。
It only makes sense, then, that when a mailman walks through a neighborhood, he has his own system.
那么，当邮递员走过一个社区时，他有自己的系统，这才有意义。
On this route here, you'll find that there are many different mailboxes.
在这里的这条路线上，你会发现有很多不同的邮箱。
Just about every mail receptacle there is, you'll find on this route here.
几乎所有的邮件容器，您都可以在这条路线上找到。
You have your mailboxes, you have your mail slots, you have a wall of mailboxes.
你有你的邮箱，你有你的邮件槽，你有一堵邮箱墙。
There are many different sizes.
有许多不同的尺寸。
You'll see the different forms as we make these deliveries.
当我们进行这些交付时，您会看到不同的表格。
I'm Henry.
我是亨利。
I'm the mailman on the far west side here.
我是这里最西边的邮递员。
And we're on a street now, one of the blocks that I deliver.
我们现在在一条街上，是我交付的街区之一。
And so far, it looks like a vacant street.
到目前为止，它看起来就像一条空荡荡的街道。
The only thing that's moving now is a car.
现在唯一在移动的就是一辆汽车。
Maybe I see two men, one of them working on a lawn.
也许我看到两个男人，其中一个在草坪上工作。
And down the block, which I can see a guy standing about two blocks down.
在街区下面，我可以看到一个人站在大约两个街区之外。
Now, what he's doing or what he's waiting on, I have no idea.
现在，我不知道他在做什么或在等待什么。
Actually, Henry's lying.
事实上，亨利在撒谎。
He has some idea.
他有一些想法。
After all, there's only two categories of people he sees on this part of his route during the day-- elderly retirees and gang members.
毕竟，白天他在这段路线上只看到两类人——老年退休人员和帮派成员。
The guy on the corner, he's not elderly.
拐角处的那个人，他并不老。
But Henry's worked this neighborhood for 20 years.
但亨利在这个街区工作了 20 年。
And he has to come back here every day.
而且他每天都必须回到这里。
So no matter how many times I ask him to be more explicit, he never refers to these guys we're passing as drug dealers or gang members.
因此，无论我多少次要求他说得更明确，他从来没有将我们所传递的这些人称为毒贩或帮派成员。
He calls them businessmen, workers, or boys in the 'hood.
他称他们为商人、工人或“底层男孩”。
Hello, dear.
你好呀。
Retiree You've got company.
退休人员 你有伴。
The retirees, he calls "dear." And a surprising number are waiting for him at the door.
他称退休人员为“亲爱的”。还有令人惊讶的人数在门口等着他。
[INTERPOSING VOICES] Henry Yeah.
[插话] 亨利 是的。
How's Carlton?
卡尔顿怎么样？
He's doing pretty good.
他做得很好。
Henry That's good.
亨利 那很好。
Yeah.
是的。
Henry Yeah, I've been knowing her since I came out here many years ago, many years ago.
亨利：是的，自从很多年前我来到这里以来，我就认识她了。
I will.
我会。
Retiree OK.
退休人员好。
All right.
好的。
Have a good day.
祝你有美好的一天。
All right, now.
好吧，现在。
We're the eyes and ears sometimes on elderly people.
有时我们是老年人的眼睛和耳朵。
We see the mail piling up in the box or whatever, something is wrong.
我们看到邮件堆积在盒子里或者其他什么地方，有问题。
You put the mail in there, it's in there for two or three days, something's wrong.
你把邮件放在那里，它在那里放了两三天，出了问题。
Let someone know something.
让某人知道一些事情。
There was one where I had to stop a police officer.
有一次我不得不阻止一名警察。
There was a lady.
有一位女士。
She was an elderly lady, lord knows.
天知道，她是一位年长的女士。
She done passed now.
她现在已经通过了。
But her door was open.
但她的门是开着的。
And it's never open.
而且它永远不会开放。
It is never, ever open.
它永远不会开放。
So I stopped a police officer and told him.
所以我拦住了一名警察并告诉了他。
I said that this lady here, she lives on my route and everything.
我说这里的这位女士，她住在我的路线上以及一切。
But her door was wide open, and she never leaves it open.
但她的门是敞开的，她从不让它开着。
Fortunately for me, that particular time, the lady had fell again and hurt herself.
对我来说幸运的是，那次，那位女士再次摔倒并受伤了。
So they were able to take her to the hospital.
于是他们就送她去了医院。
Just that once.
就那么一次。
But it's done happened in many cities and many different routes.
但这已经发生在许多城市和许多不同的路线上。
Henry and I turn down a side street.
亨利和我拐进一条小街。
Several young men in starter jackets and baseball caps slouch against a parked car.
几个穿着入门夹克、戴着棒球帽的年轻人无精打采地靠在一辆停着的汽车上。
Another guy stands on an opposite corner.
另一个人站在对面的角落。
Right now, as you see, there's only a few of them out.
现在，如你所见，只有少数人在外面。
If you look on some of the corners, you'll find one or two of them out there.
如果你观察一些角落，你会发现其中的一两个。
I told you it wouldn't be many.
我告诉过你不会有很多。
It is their 'hood.
这是他们的“兜帽”。
We just work in it.
我们只是在其中工作。
And how do they perceive you?
他们如何看待你？
Henry Well, they perceive me as no threat.
亨利 好吧，他们认为我没有威胁。
We're not friendly.
我们并不友好。
There's a wave or hello or how you doing, and we go on about our business.
挥挥手、打个招呼或者你好吗，然后我们就继续干我们的事。
As we walk by, I see one guy slap something into a second guy's outstretched palm.
当我们走过时，我看到一个人把什么东西打到了另一个人伸出的手掌上。
The second guy slips his hand into his pocket.
第二个人把手伸进口袋。
The two never look at each other.
两人从不看对方一眼。
What's weird is they make no effort to hide what clearly is a violation of federal drug policy in front of a federal employee.
奇怪的是，他们没有努力在联邦雇员面前隐藏明显违反联邦毒品政策的行为。
Henry says it's always like this.
亨利说事情总是这样。
Simply because they don't feel that I'm a threat to them.
只是因为他们不觉得我对他们构成威胁。
They do not feel that I'm a threat to them.
他们不觉得我对他们构成威胁。
If, by chance, you drove around in a big Ford, in most cases, they would slow down.
如果你碰巧开着一辆大型福特车到处走，在大多数情况下，它们会放慢速度。
Whatever activity was going on, they would stop because they'll get hesitant.
无论正在进行什么活动，他们都会停下来，因为他们会犹豫不决。
But as far as I'm concerned, I'm not a threat.
但就我而言，我不是一个威胁。
They know I'm not a threat.
他们知道我不是威胁。
So they continue doing what they're gonna do.
所以他们继续做他们要做的事情。
I have nothing more or less to do with-- They know that I'm not going to bother them, and they don't bother me.
我与他们没有或多或少的关系——他们知道我不会打扰他们，他们也不会打扰我。
So it's just like you're sort of-- it'd be like stopping just because a cloud crosses the sky or something.
所以这就像你——就像是因为一朵云划过天空或其他什么而停下来一样。
Exactly, exactly, exactly.
完全正确，完全正确。
Exactly right.
完全正确。
I'm a part of the day.
我是一天的一部分。
Matter of fact, it seems like I'm part of the fixture.
事实上，我似乎是其中的一部分。
There are things that happen naturally.
有些事情是自然发生的。
It rains naturally.
自然会下雨。
You have no say in that.
你对此没有发言权。
When the sun comes out, you have no say in that.
当太阳出来的时候，你就没有发言权了。
if someone-- Hey, how're you doing there?-- If someone dies, you have no control over that.
如果有人——嘿，你在那里怎么样？——如果有人死了，你就无法控制。
Same with the mailman.
与邮递员相同。
You have no control over the mailman coming into your block or not.
你无法控制邮递员是否进入你的街区。
Mailman's going to be on every block, and that's regardless.
无论如何，邮递员将出现在每个街区。
There was a situation where the guy moved.
出现了一个情况，那家伙动了。
And he filed a change of address card, which is his responsibility, because otherwise, we wouldn't know where he's at.
他提交了地址变更卡，这是他的责任，否则我们不知道他在哪里。
Right.
正确的。
And this is a customer that you've known.
这是您认识的一位客户。
He's been on your route.
他一直在你的路线上。
I've known him for a while.
我认识他有一段时间了。
He had been on the route for about two or three years.
他在这条路上已经呆了大约两三年了。
Well what it was, I was coming up to his house.
好吧，那是什么，我正要去他家。
He decides that he's going to take him a check or have me write him one.
他决定给他一张支票或者让我给他写一张。
This is the impression that I'm getting because I've already told him it's been forwarded to his new address.
这是我得到的印象，因为我已经告诉他它已转发到他的新地址。
And what's he saying to you specifically?
他具体对你说什么？
Well, he's telling me, "You're going to give me my check.
好吧，他告诉我，“你要把支票给我。
You're going to give me my check." And I keep telling him, "Well, it's been forwarded to your new address." Told him it'd probably be there tomorrow or the day after.
你要把支票给我。”我一直告诉他，“好吧，它已经转发到你的新地址了。”告诉他它可能明天或后天就到了。
And he says, well, he can't wait.
他说，好吧，他等不及了。
And it looked like he was going to whoop me or something because he was taking his jacket off.
看起来他要对我大喊大叫什么的，因为他正在脱掉夹克。
And when he came to me, the boys in the 'hood surrounded him, told him, "That's my mailman.
当他来到我身边时，兜帽里的男孩们围住了他，告诉他，“那是我的邮递员。
You don't mess with him." So he went on about his business.
你别惹他。”于是他继续忙他的事。
No problem.
没问题。
So what did you say to those guys when that happened?
那么当这件事发生时你对那些人说了什么？
Oh, I just thanked them-- How're you doing, dear?-- I just thanked them for what they did.
哦，我只是感谢他们——亲爱的，你好吗？——我只是感谢他们所做的事情。
They told me, "No problem." They say, "Because you've been around here too long for anybody to be messing with you."
他们告诉我：“没问题。”他们说：“因为你在这里呆得太久了，没人能来惹你。”
After two hours of walking, we've come across only a handful of people, maybe a half a dozen workers, one guy home from his job on vacation, standing and surveying his front lawn, four or five disembodied voices exchanging pleasantries through the mail slot.
经过两个小时的步行，我们只遇到了几个人，也许是六名工人，一个人下班回家，站着观察着他家前的草坪，四五个空洞的声音通过邮筒互相寒暄。
In short, the people left in a primarily residential neighborhood during non-residential hours.
简而言之，人们在非居住时间离开主要住宅区。
Henry doesn't get lonely, though.
不过，亨利并不感到孤独。
The fewer people, the better.
人越少越好。
In fact, he says he likes winter best, the empty days in mid-January, when it's only him and the occasional drug dealer on the street.
事实上，他说他最喜欢冬天，一月中旬空荡荡的日子，那时街上只有他和偶尔的毒贩。
But if there's no one on the street, especially if the weather's OK, that's when he gets worried.
但如果街上没有人，特别是天气好的时候，他就会担心。
Anytime the workers disappear for a period of time, that's when you start more or less thinking more safety.
每当工人消失一段时间时，你或多或少就会开始考虑更多的安全问题。
You figure it should be some people out here today, but it's not.
你认为今天应该有人在这里，但事实并非如此。
That's the scary part.
这就是可怕的部分。
Because in most cases, if there's been noise outside all along, every day, then all of a sudden, there's nothing, something has happened somewhere or something will happen.
因为在大多数情况下，如果外面每天都有噪音，那么突然之间就什么都没有了，某处发生了一些事情或者将会发生一些事情。
Always look at it that way.
总是这样看。
And you feel that way.
你也有这样的感觉。
You feel like you can--
你感觉你可以——
You can feel it.
你可以感觉到。
You can feel it.
你可以感觉到。
It makes you start looking.
它让你开始寻找。
It makes you start checking.
它让你开始检查。
You can feel the thing like your hair's just raised up on the back of your neck, that type of thing.
你可以感觉到你脖子后面的头发竖起来了，诸如此类的感觉。
That's the same feeling you get out here sometimes when it's supposed to be crowded out here, supposed to be people out here, but there's absolutely nobody but you.
有时候，当你来到这里时，这里应该很拥挤，应该都是人，但除了你之外绝对没有人。
And you want to get away as soon as possible.
而你想尽快离开。
Let me hurry up and do what I have to do so I can get out.
让我快点做我必须做的事，这样我才能出去。
On days like that, other people could avoid this block, take another route.
在那样的日子里，其他人可以避开这条路，走另一条路。
Henry doesn't have that choice.
亨利没有这个选择。
He has to stick to his.
他必须坚持他的。
I'm surprised to see you.
见到你我很惊讶。
Why aren't you at work?
你怎么没上班？
I'm on vacation for a week.
我要休假一周。
Henry Oh, are you?
亨利哦，你是吗？
See, that's why I need a job where I go on vacation.
瞧，这就是为什么我需要一份可以去度假的工作。
Alex Blumberg.
亚历克斯·布隆伯格。
Henry Yeah, sooner or later, if y'all don't hurt me out here first.
亨利：是啊，迟早，如果你们不先在这里伤害我的话。
[MUSIC - "WHOOPIE TI-YI-YO" BY SONS OF THE PIONEERS]
[音乐 - 拓荒者之子的“WHOOPIE TI-YI-YO”]
Act Five, $82.50 a Day.
第五幕，每天 82.50 美元。
Some neighborhoods are wealthy enough that they somehow keep those unsightly drug dealers off the corners.
有些社区足够富裕，以某种方式将那些难看的毒贩拒之门外。
There, the daytime hours are filled with other kinds of people.
那里白天挤满了其他种类的人。
In some places, it's children's nannies who occupy the lovely houses during the day with their own second community, second set of lives, in the same space.
在一些地方，孩子们的保姆白天占据着可爱的房子，在同一个空间里拥有自己的第二个社区、第二套生活。
Mona Simpson has this excerpt from a forthcoming novel.
莫娜·辛普森摘录了一本即将出版的小说。
The excerpt is told in the voice of a Filipino nanny named Wanda, somebody who's part of a community of Filipino nannies in Santa Monica, California.
这段摘录是由一位名叫旺达的菲律宾保姆讲述的，她是加利福尼亚州圣莫尼卡菲律宾保姆社区的一员。
Ruth told me when I first came here, "I don't need to teach you children.
当我第一次来到这里时，露丝告诉我：“我不需要教你们孩子们。
You have been a mother to five," she said.
你已经是五个孩子的母亲了，”她说。
"You know.
“你知道。
Children are not hard.
孩子们并不难。
But most, you have to think about the mother.
但大多数情况下，你必须想到母亲。
Here, the mothers are the ones who throw the tantrums.
在这里，妈妈们才是发脾气的人。
You may have had nannies, but you have not before been a nanny."
你可能有过保姆，但你以前没有当过保姆。”
I hold my hands open in front of me to take away whatever my employer is beginning.
我张开双手，拿走雇主正在开始的一切。
If she starts to sew a button, I finish.
如果她开始缝纽扣，我就完成。
If she is rinsing a lettuce, I say, "I will be the one." When the guy spills something and pounds a wet napkin at the spot, I reach out my hands and say, "Give it to me.
如果她正在冲洗生菜，我会说：“我就是那个。”当那个家伙洒了东西并当场砸了一张湿餐巾时，我伸出双手说：“把它给我。
I will make it clean," all the while, with a smile.
我会把它弄干净的，”一直微笑着。
It is not hard.
这并不难。
No, not when you have a purpose.
不，当你有目标时就不会。
And I have five purposes, the youngest 17, entering medicine.
我有五个目标，最小的 17 岁，进入医学界。
But I have a good job.
但我有一份好工作。
The parents of Richard get him in the morning.
理查德的父母早上来接他。
While they eat their breakfast, I fix their bed, take the glass of water from the side table, pick up Kleenexes.
当他们吃早餐时，我整理他们的床，从边桌上拿起一杯水，拿起纸巾。
I straighten their bathroom, fasten the top to his toothpaste.
我整理了他们的浴室，将顶部固定在他的牙膏上。
Hers, it is already done.
她的，已经完成了。
"Always the parents first," Ruth said.
“永远把父母放在第一位，”露丝说。
"A kid cannot fire you, even here.
“即使在这里，小孩子也不能解雇你。
They can love you, but they cannot pay you.
他们可以爱你，但他们不能付钱给你。
And anyway, they will forgive."
无论如何，他们都会原谅。”
Ruth told me, "You have always to talk to him, even when he is still a baby.
露丝告诉我：“你总是要和他说话，即使他还是个婴儿。
It is very important that they hear words." And I did, more than to my kids, because my kids I had one after the other, five in 10 years.
让他们听到话语非常重要。”我这么做了，不仅仅是为了我的孩子，因为我的孩子一个接一个，十年内生了五个。
But with Ricardo, I just talk and talk.
但对于里卡多，我只是不停地说。
I tell him everything, and now, see?
我告诉他一切，现在明白了吗？
He is very doll-doll.
他非常洋娃娃。
He understands more than 100 words Tagalog.
他能听懂 100 多个他加禄语单词。
In the class of 2010 at Harvard University, which is where the parents of Ricardo would like him to go, there will be 20 Santa Monica boys saying to the cooks in the cafeteria, "Excuse, where is my adobo?" And Wanda, by then, will be lying in a hammock, back in the Philippines.
里卡多的父母希望他去哈佛大学，在 2010 届毕业生中，会有 20 个圣莫尼卡男孩对自助餐厅的厨师说：“请问，我的阿多波在哪里？”到那时，万达将躺在菲律宾的吊床上。
"What for?" Ricardo asks me.
“做什么的？”里卡多问我。
He is young.
他很年轻。
He does not yet understand rest.
他还不明白休息。
Ruth said, when I started with Ricardo, "I'm not going to tell you how to love him because either that will happen, or it won't." And in four jobs, 25 years, only once it did not happen to her.
露丝说，当我开始与里卡多交往时，“我不会告诉你如何爱他，因为这要么会发生，要么不会。” 25 年里，换了四份工作，只有一次这样的事没有发生在她身上。
"And then, you need to quit.
“然后，你需要退出。
Because you cannot do the job if you do not love the baby.
因为如果你不爱宝宝，你就无法完成这项工作。
No," Ruth said to me at the beginning, "I will not tell you how to love.
不，”露丝一开始就对我说，“我不会告诉你如何去爱。
I wouldn't if I could.
如果可以的话我不会。
Because what I would tell you, if I knew, would be how not to so much.
因为如果我知道的话，我会告诉你如何不那么做。
Because you will love him the same as your own, and they never do.
因为你会像爱自己一样爱他，而他们永远不会这样做。
They love you, but it is not the same." I told her then, "I know, I know.
他们爱你，但不一样。”我当时就告诉她：“我知道，我知道。
I am a mother, too." But now, I think, if you can keep them until they are five, then, they will never forget you.
我也是一位母亲。”但现在，我想，如果你能把他们留到五岁，那么，他们就永远不会忘记你。
I ask Ricardo, "Will you remember your Wanda?" "Why?" He says.
我问里卡多：“你还记得你的旺达吗？” “为什么？”他说。
"You are not going away." "Someday," I tell him, "I will return to the Philippines." "Why?
“你不会走的。” “总有一天，”我告诉他，“我会回到菲律宾。” “为什么？
What will you do there?" "I will go and sit at my house, stare at my diplomas."
你要去那里做什么？” “我会去坐在我家，盯着我的文凭。”
"Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
“来吧，来吧，来吧，来吧，来吧。
Come to Wanda.
来万达吧
I have something for you," I say, because he is very angry.
我有东西给你，”我说，因为他很生气。
Usually, it is the dad.
通常，这个人是父亲。
But now, it was the mother he was hitting.
但现在，他打的是妈妈。
She put a hand to her eye, and I got ice the way I do with his boo-boos.
她把手放在眼睛上，我就像对待他的嘘声一样冰冷。
So I take him in my arms away.
于是我把他抱在怀里走了。
I am on the ground now, in the yard.
我现在在地上，在院子里。
And he is strong.
而且他很坚强。
I cannot so easily hold him still.
我不能轻易地让他保持不动。
And Wanda told a lie.
万达撒了谎。
I do not have anything for him.
我没有什么可以给他的。
So I make promises.
所以我做出承诺。
"Someday, I am going to take you home with me to the Philippines.
“有一天，我会带你一起回菲律宾。
And there, we will make the ice candy." He is still in my arms, but he is not any longer fighting.
在那里，我们将制作冰糖。”他还在我怀里，但他不再战斗了。
His bones, they are different now, not pushing to get out.
他的骨头，现在已经不一样了，不再想挣脱。
They fall in the pattern, like the veins of a leaf.
它们按照图案排列，就像叶子的叶脉一样。
"I will put you in my pocket and feed you one candy every day.
“我会把你装进口袋，每天喂你一颗糖。
And you will be happy because the ocean at our place, it is very blue.
你会很高兴，因为我们这里的海洋非常蓝。
The sky, it is higher than here.
天，比这里还要高。
And the fruits that grow on trees, very sweet.
还有树上结的果子，非常甜。
His head is down to the ground between his own knees, but he is listening.
他的头垂在膝盖之间，但他在听。
He is better now, slower, his heart.
他现在好多了，他的心跳变慢了。
I see through the window his mother on the telephone.
我透过窗户看到他母亲正在打电话。
She holds the ice to her eye and walks around the kitchen, talking to her friend long distance, a woman who does not work and who reads many books about the raising of children.
她把冰块放在眼睛上，在厨房里走来走去，与远方的朋友交谈，她是一个不工作、读了很多关于养育孩子的书籍的女人。
When my employer becomes upset, she calls this friend, the full-time mother.
当我的雇主感到不安时，她会打电话给这位朋友，即全职母亲。
But he is better now.
但他现在好多了。
Only his mouth, it is still smeared outside the edges.
只有他的嘴，边缘外还沾着污迹。
He will come with me.
他会跟我一起去。
I lift him into the stroller and promise him candy, not the ice candy, just candy we can buy here.
我把他抱进婴儿车，答应给他糖果，不是冰糖，只是我们在这里能买到的糖果。
"But do not tell your mother."
“但是不要告诉你妈妈。”
I say, "Excuse, but we are going now." "Is that OK?
我说：“对不起，我们现在就走。” “这样可以吗？
Thank you, Wanda." This is how my employer believes she cannot live without me.
谢谢你，旺达。”这就是我的雇主认为没有我她就活不下去的原因。
She's telling her friend who reads the books how he is better with me than with her.
她正在告诉她读书的朋友，他和我在一起比和她在一起更好。
And her friend will tell her that it is perfectly normal.
她的朋友会告诉她这是完全正常的。
We are just alone, Ricardo and me.
我们只是孤独一人，里卡多和我。
This neighborhood is ours during the daytime.
白天这个街区是我们的。
You do not see the white mothers walking, only getting in and out of cars, carrying shopping bags.
你看不到白人母亲走路，只看到提着购物袋进出汽车。
I am pushing him in the stroller, and he sits.
我把他推到婴儿车里，他坐下来。
That is the good of fighting.
这就是战斗的好处。
It makes them very tired.
这让他们很累。
The sun is solid like many small weights on our arms.
太阳像我们手臂上的许多小重物一样坚实。
I pass by the park.
我路过公园。
And in the distance, we see friends, babysitters, and they wave.
在远处，我们看到朋友、保姆，他们向我们挥手。
But he doesn't want to get out of his stroller.
但他不想离开婴儿车。
So we just roll under the tall trees.
所以我们就在高大的树下打滚。
When we return home, I have ready a project.
当我们回到家时，我已经准备好了一个项目。
We are putting into cardboard all the coins in the house.
我们把房子里所有的硬币都放进纸板里。
Ricardo is doing it with me.
里卡多正在和我一起做。
And his mother told us we could use the pennies to put in the choo-choo bank, which is for our ticket to the Philippines.
他妈妈告诉我们，我们可以把这些硬币存入 Choo-Choo 银行，用来存我们去菲律宾的机票。
I told my employers already, when they go to Europe to celebrate their 10th anniversary, I will take Ricardo to the Philippines.
我已经告诉我的雇主，当他们去欧洲庆祝他们的十周年时，我会带里卡多去菲律宾。
We are also finding nickels and dimes and quarters.
我们还发现了五分镍币、一角硬币和五分硬币。
And I have the brown tubes from the bank for those, too.
我也有从银行买来的棕色管子。
"It is a hunt," I tell Ricardo.
“这是一场狩猎，”我告诉里卡多。
There is always money in this house, where people empty their pockets.
这房子里总是有钱，人们都掏空口袋。
Ricardo is a very good worker.
里卡多是一位非常好的工人。
We just pile the logs of finished coins.
我们只是堆放成品硬币的原木。
If we can also save the money that is for quarters and dimes and nickels, we will have a lot.
如果我们还可以节省 25 美分、10 美分和 5 美分的钱，我们就会拥有很多。
Already I have saved $75.
我已经节省了 75 美元。
But I will have to find the right way to ask.
但我必须找到正确的提问方式。
The pennies, they are already ours.
这些硬币，它们已经是我们的了。
But the rest, I will ask the mother of Ricardo, not the dad.
但剩下的，我会问里卡多的母亲，而不是父亲。
At the bank, we wait in line a long time.
在银行，我们排了很长时间的队。
Then, when we get to the front, the lady is all business, making a total of the rolled dimes.
然后，当我们到达前面时，那位女士正在忙着做生意，总共赚了一毛钱。
I tell her, "This little man rolled the nickels by himself." When the lady finishes the silver, I begin to lift the bag of pennies from his wagon.
我告诉她：“这个小个子自己滚了五分硬币。”当这位女士用完银币后，我开始从他的马车上提起那袋便士。
They are heavy.
它们很重。
We will get $40 from nickels, $27 from dimes, and $103 from pennies.
我们将从五分镍币中获得 40 美元，从一角硬币中获得 27 美元，从便士中获得 103 美元。
But the lady is pushing our pennies back out of the cage.
但这位女士正把我们的硬币从笼子里推出来。
"We cannot take pennies," she says.
“我们不能拿一分钱，”她说。
Ricardo, whom I've lifted up to see, gives one back to her.
我把里卡多举起来见他，他把一张还给了她。
"We can't use these," she says.
“我们不能使用这些，”她说。
For a second, his face changes.
一瞬间，他的脸色变了。
Then, he is bawling.
然后，他就嚎啕大哭。
And he throws the roll of pennies at the lady's face.
然后他把一卷硬币扔到那位女士的脸上。
Her hand goes to the place above her eye.
她的手伸向眼睛上方的地方。
And she says, "I cannot help you."
她说：“我帮不了你。”
She has already given us the paper money for the other coins.
她已经给了我们其他硬币的纸币。
She is looking at me with hate.
她用仇恨的眼神看着我。
I have seen real hate only a few times in my life.
我一生中只见过几次真正的仇恨。
For a minute, I am only stuck.
有那么一分钟，我只是被困住了。
The shape of diamonds, it is shocking.
钻石的形状，令人震惊。
But she is hurt above the eye, and I am not white.
但她眼睛上面受伤了，我也不白。
Come on, Ricardo.
来吧，里卡多。
I am fighting him into the wagon.
我正和他打到马车上。
I will pull all the rolls of pennies and him.
我会把所有的便士卷和他一起拉出来。
We will make our getaway.
我们会逃走的。
He sees a garbage can, and he runs, dumping pennies in the open top.
他看到一个垃圾桶，就跑了，把硬币扔进了敞开的顶部。
He is still crying.
他还在哭。
But he is mad now, also mad.
但他现在很生气，也很生气。
I have to stop him.
我必须阻止他。
This is not right, our effort.
这是不对的，我们的努力。
With him, what I do is almost tackle.
和他在一起，我所做的几乎就是铲球。
Wanda's not a big person.
万达不是什么大人物。
I get on the floor and hold him until the fight is out.
我趴在地板上抱着他，直到战斗结束。
Then, I tell him the story, still keeping him in my lap.
然后，我告诉他这个故事，仍然把他放在我的腿上。
"Once upon a time," I say, "I work in Beverly Hills, in a house that is very fancy, three layers, floors like a checkerboard, all marble.
“从前，”我说，“我在比佛利山庄工作，在一栋非常豪华的房子里，三层，地板像棋盘，全是大理石。
When I was first here, the lady, she opened the door and saw me.
当我第一次来这里时，那位女士，她打开门，看到了我。
And right away, she said, 'You are hired.' She told me she knew like that, from the way I tie my sneakers.
她立刻说道：“你被录用了。”她告诉我，从我系运动鞋的方式来看，她就知道这一点。
"The lady's husband, he had an office.
“这位女士的丈夫，他有一间办公室。
And she wanted that to be neat, too.
她也希望一切都整洁。
She hired me extra to go on the Saturday and straighten.
她额外雇了我周六去矫正。
He was there working while I cleaned.
我打扫卫生时他正在那里工作。
And he had one jar like this, up to my waist, full with pennies.
他有一个像这样的罐子，一直到我的腰部，里面装满了硬币。
And I asked him, did he want me to get tubes from the bank?
我问他，他想让我从银行拿管子吗？
And he said, 'You can take the pennies.' But I could not lift.
他说：“你可以拿走这些硬币。”但我无法举起。
And so I came back Sunday, my day off.
于是我周日回来了，那天是我的休息日。
And I sat on the floor out of his way and put all the pennies into tubes.
我坐在地板上，让他挡道，把所有的硬币都放进管子里。
He stepped around me when he went down the hall to use the restroom and the machines.
当他沿着走廊去使用洗手间和机器时，他绕过了我。
He'd ask me how much money it was as he went by.
他路过的时候会问我多少钱。
And I'd tell him the total so far.
我会告诉他到目前为止的总数。
"$36." "Good job, Wanda." The next time, it was $92.
“36 美元。” “干得好，旺达。”下一次，价格是 92 美元。
By the last time he passed, I was at $306.
当他最后一次去世时，我的资产为 306 美元。
That time, his face looked strange, like two lines cross over it.
那一次，他的脸看起来很奇怪，就像有两条线交叉。
He went down the hall, and I heard Xeroxing.
他沿着走廊走去，我听到了复印的声音。
"On his way back, he stopped over me and said, "Maybe you'd better leave the pennies." "Whatever you like.
“在回来的路上，他停下来对我说：“也许你最好把硬币留下来。”“随你便。
It is up to you." When he was back in his office on the phone, I got up and left it all there-- the rolled pennies, the pile on the floor, the jar turned over.
这取决于你。”当他回到办公室打电话时，我起身把所有东西都留在那里——卷好的硬币、地上的一堆、翻倒的罐子。
I took the bus to my sister, and I never went back to that house.
我乘公共汽车去姐姐那儿，然后就再也没有回过那所房子。
That was the end of my career for a Beverly Hills nanny."
那是我比佛利山庄保姆职业生涯的结束。”
"Is that when you came to me?" "That is before.
“那是你来找我的时候吗？” “那是以前。
You were not yet born.
你还没有出生。
But when the husband took the pennies I rolled to the bank, you know what they are telling him?
但当丈夫把我滚到银行的便士拿走时，你知道他们在告诉他什么吗？
They are telling him, too, what they are telling us.
他们也在告诉他他们正在告诉我们的事情。
'We cannot help you.' And you know what he will do then?"
“我们帮不了你。”你知道他那时会做什么吗？”
"He shouldn't have taken your pennies, Wanda.
“他不应该拿走你的钱，旺达。
He is a bad man."
他是个坏人。”
"A little bad.
“有点不好。
Listen.
听着。
You know what he will do?
你知道他会做什么吗？
He will throw the pennies in the garbage and walk away in a hurry.
他会把硬币扔进垃圾桶，然后匆匆走开。
He is always in a hurry because he is rich.
他总是很匆忙，因为他很有钱。
He is too busy, see?"
他太忙了，明白吗？”
Now, I am fishing with my arm in the garbage, feeling among wet things for our tubes, the ones Ricardo threw.
现在，我正用手臂在垃圾堆里钓鱼，在湿漉漉的东西中摸索着我们的管子，里卡多扔的那些管子。
"But we will do something else.
“但我们会做别的事情。
Come.
来吧。
You watch Wanda."
你看旺达。”
I pull him in the wagon out into the bright air.
我把他拉进马车，到了明亮的空气中。
And we roll to the five-and-dime and the candy store.
我们又去了五毛钱店和糖果店。
Each place, I count out the money in pennies.
每个地方，我都以便士为单位数钱。
I put it in piles of 10 on the counter, so it is easy for the register clerk.
我把它分成10堆放在柜台上，这样收银员很容易。
My father always said, "Spend your small money first." He remembered in the Philippines when money became toy.
我父亲总是说：“先花你的小钱。”他记得在菲律宾，金钱变成了玩具。
The smaller denominations, they would not buy anything.
面额越小，他们就不会买任何东西。
"And still, at that time," he told me, "There is so much wealth."
“而且，那个时候，”他告诉我，“还是有很多财富。”
Ricardo is in the wagon I am pulling, eating long orange and green candy worms.
里卡多在我拉的马车里，吃着长长的橙色和绿色糖果虫。
I tell him, "See?
我告诉他：“看到了吗？
In the bank, it is nothing.
在银行里，什么都不是。
But out here in the world, it is money.
但在这个世界上，最重要的是金钱。
Not for the Philippines.
不适用于菲律宾。
But we can still buy, every day a little.
但我们还是可以买，每天一点点。
It is our own private fund, our trust fund.
这是我们自己的私人基金，我们的信托基金。
I trust you, and you trust me.
我信任你，你也信任我。
You have your candy.
你有你的糖果。
Now, let's use some pennies to buy Wanda her cup of coffee."
现在，我们用一些便士给旺达买杯咖啡吧。”
Mona Simson, reading from her forthcoming novel, My Hollywood .
莫娜·西姆森正在朗读她即将出版的小说《我的好莱坞》。
Well, the program was produced today by Susan Burton and myself with Alex Blumberg, Blue Chevigny, and Julie Snyder.
嗯，这个节目今天由苏珊·伯顿和我、亚历克斯·布隆伯格、布鲁·切维尼和朱莉·斯奈德共同制作。
Contributing editors, Paul Tough, Jack Hitt, Margy Rochlin, Alix Spiegel, Nancy Updike, and consigliere Sarah Vowell.
特约编辑 Paul Tough、Jack Hitt、Margy Rochlin、Alix Spiegel、Nancy Updike 和顾问 Sarah Vowell。
Production help from Todd Bachmann and Erik Halverston.
托德·巴赫曼 (Todd Bachmann) 和埃里克·霍尔弗斯顿 (Erik Halverston) 提供制作帮助。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] To buy a cassette of this program, call us here at WBEZ in Chicago, 312-832-3380.
[鸣谢] 要购买该节目的磁带，请致电我们芝加哥的 WBEZ，电话：312-832-3380。
Or you can listen to most of our programs for absolutely free on the internet at our website, www.thislife.org.
或者，您可以在我们的网站 www.thislife.org 上完全免费地收听我们的大部分节目。
Don't forget about those maps there.
不要忘记那里的那些地图。
Thanks to Elizabeth Meister, who runs the site.
感谢该网站的运营者伊丽莎白·梅斯特 (Elizabeth Meister)。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Torey Malatia, who somehow thinks that I owe him money.
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理由 Torey Malatia 监督，他不知何故认为我欠他钱。
You're going to give me my check.
你要把支票给我。
You're going to give me my check.
你要把支票给我。
I'm Ira Glass, back next week with more stories of This American Life .
我是艾拉·格拉斯，下周回来，带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。