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Prologue Ira Glass From WBEZ Chicago and Public Radio International, it's This American Life .
序言 来自 WBEZ 芝加哥和国际公共广播电台的 Ira Glass，这就是美国生活。
Good morning, everyone.
大家早上好。
I feel like a school teacher.
我感觉自己就像一名学校老师。
Good morning, teacher.
早上好，老师。
It's very overwhelming to see such a great turnout this morning.
今天早上看到如此高的投票率真是令人震惊。
I'm just so excited because I know it was very hard to get out of bed on this very, very cold New England morning.
我非常兴奋，因为我知道在这个非常非常寒冷的新英格兰早晨很难起床。
I've just been given the overwhelming task of introducing this amazing man.
我刚刚接到了一项艰巨的任务，就是介绍这位了不起的人。
And I'm totally speechless right now.
而我现在完全无语了。
And I am just extremely excited.
我非常兴奋。
[MUSIC - "IT STARTED ALL OVER AGAIN" BY FRANK SINATRA]
[音乐 - 弗兰克·辛纳屈的《一切重新开始》]
All of our stories today, brought to you from New Hampshire, where it has started again.
今天我们所有的故事都是从新罕布什尔州为您带来的，那里是一切重新开始的地方。
Voters looking to fall for a candidate-- candidates, according to voters.
选民们希望爱上一位候选人——据选民称，他们是候选人。
I'm very happy to be here this morning.
我很高兴今天早上来到这里。
This is the 70-something town hall meeting I've had in the state of New Hampshire.
这是我在新罕布什尔州参加的 70 多位市政厅会议。
I had a guy come the other day, just before Christmas.
前几天，圣诞节前夕，我有一个人来了。
He said, Senator McCain, this is the fifth town hall meeting you've had that I've attended.
他说，麦凯恩参议员，这是我参加的第五次市政厅会议。
And I said, that's ample testimony to my inability to close the deal.
我说，这充分证明了我无法完成交易。
Right.
正确的。
I want to talk about just a couple of issues of the day with you, because the thing I know about the people of New Hampshire, they're not particularly interested in long speeches.
我想和你们谈谈今天的几个问题，因为据我了解新罕布什尔州人民，他们对长篇演讲并不是特别感兴趣。
In fact, they're not even interested in short speeches.
事实上，他们甚至对简短的演讲不感兴趣。
They're interested in making comments, asking questions, and an occasional insult.
他们有兴趣发表评论、提出问题，甚至偶尔进行侮辱。
Today on our program, people looking for something to believe in, and many of them finding it, and what they know about the candidates that you don't know.
今天在我们的节目中，人们在寻找值得相信的东西，他们中的许多人找到了它，以及他们对候选人的了解，而你不知道这些。
Take, for example, Kahari Mosley and Garcia Suzinko.
以卡哈里·莫斯利和加西亚·苏辛科为例。
Three days into the beginning of the new millennium, they left home to do something they had never done before.
新千年开始三天后，他们离开家去做一些以前从未做过的事情。
They hopped on a bus in Pennsylvania and headed up to New Hampshire to volunteer for a presidential campaign.
他们在宾夕法尼亚州跳上一辆公共汽车，前往新罕布什尔州，志愿参加总统竞选。
Kahari had never been to New England before.
卡哈里以前从未去过新英格兰。
He looked out the bus window, he says, and saw trees all close together, boxy houses 100 years old.
他说，他向公交车窗外望去，看到树木都靠得很近，还有有 100 年历史的四四方方的房子。
I was blown away.
我被震撼了。
Because I was tapping him on the bus.
因为我在公交车上偷拍他。
We were about 10 minutes from Manchester.
我们距曼彻斯特约 10 分钟路程。
I'm tapping him on the bus like, yo, man.
我在公交车上拍拍他，就像，哟，伙计。
I started getting scared, because-- I mean there's country in Pennsylvania, but it's a different type of country.
我开始感到害怕，因为——我的意思是宾夕法尼亚州有一个国家，但这是一个不同类型的国家。
It's more kind of like NASCAR, WWF-type country.
它更像是 NASCAR、WWF 类型的国家。
I mean, this is like American Gothic, like scary movie country.
我的意思是，这就像美国哥特式，就像恐怖电影的国家。
In rural New Hampshire, wherever Kahari and Garcia went, they could pretty much count on being the only African-Americans for miles.
在新罕布什尔州的乡村，无论卡哈里和加西亚走到哪里，他们几乎都可以成为方圆几英里内唯一的非裔美国人。
Knocking on doors for their candidate, they found a surprising number of people who wanted to tell them how great Colin Powell is.
在为他们的候选人敲门时，他们发现有数量惊人的人想要告诉他们科林·鲍威尔有多么伟大。
They tried to steer the conversation toward their candidate, Bill Bradley.
他们试图将话题引向他们的候选人比尔·布拉德利。
They also did lit drops, put together canvassing kits, painted signs for a Bradley event down in Boston.
他们还点燃了蜡烛，组装了拉票工具，为波士顿的布拉德利活动绘制了标志。
Like since he was a basketball player, like Boston Celtics Fans for Bradley.
就像他还是一名篮球运动员一样，就像波士顿凯尔特人队球迷对布拉德利一样。
Like, go Bradley, you held Havlicek.
就像，布拉德利加油，你抓住了哈夫利切克。
Then we came up with the one, like welcome to a new Bill-ennium.
然后我们想出了一个，就像欢迎来到新的比尔周年一样。
Because like Will Smith had the Will-ennium, then I was like, flip it-- like, the Bill-ennium.
因为就像威尔·史密斯（Will Smith）拥有遗嘱百年一样，然后我就想，翻转它——就像比尔周年一样。
You know what I mean?
你知道我的意思？
And what motivated these two college students to hop on a bus at their own expense and head north to work for free?
又是什么促使这两个大学生自费搭上公交车北上免费打工呢？
It was one television appearance.
这是一次电视露面。
One of those Sunday morning talk shows where, as Kahari remembers it, Bill Bradley said the two biggest social problems facing America are racism and materialism.
卡哈里记得，在周日早上的脱口秀节目之一中，比尔·布拉德利表示，美国面临的两个最大的社会问题是种族主义和唯物主义。
Materialism.
唯物主义。
Kahari could not believe it.
卡哈里简直不敢相信。
It was like running against the very idea of America.
这就像与美国的理念背道而驰。
That's really one of the main things that's wrong with America on a day to day basis.
这确实是美国日常的主要问题之一。
I grew up in a low-income community.
我在低收入社区长大。
When you're impoverished and your life is defined by material things and you don't have it, you have a lack of self esteem.
当你贫穷并且你的生活被物质所定义而你却没有它时，你就会缺乏自尊。
I grew up, I went to middle school, high school.
我长大了，上初中、高中。
If you have a certain pair of sneakers, people made fun of you.
如果你有一双特定的运动鞋，人们就会取笑你。
And that affects how you-- I know kids that didn't want to go to school.
这会影响你——我认识那些不想上学的孩子。
They didn't graduate from high school because they didn't have the right pair of sneakers on or the right jeans.
他们没有从高中毕业，因为他们没有合适的运动鞋或合适的牛仔裤。
I used to make fun of people.
我以前经常取笑别人。
I'm guilty of it.
我对此感到内疚。
You know what I mean?
你知道我的意思？
And knowing that, for someone to address that-- and I just saw it.
知道这一点，有人来解决这个问题——我刚刚看到了。
And I was like, yo, I cannot believe he just said this on TV.
我当时想，哟，我不敢相信他刚刚在电视上这么说。
And I remember, I started telling people.
我记得，我开始告诉人们。
I was like, yo, man, this dude, look, this is what he said.
我当时想，哟，伙计，这个家伙，看，这就是他说的。
I kept telling everybody I know what he said.
我一直告诉每个人我知道他说的话。
And they're like, I can't believe he said that.
他们就像，我不敢相信他这么说。
He's never going to win.
他永远不会赢。
He's never going to win.
他永远不会赢。
And I was like, he's not going to win unless people support him.
我当时想，除非人们支持他，否则他不会获胜。
And so he bought his bus ticket for Manchester.
于是他买了去曼彻斯特的巴士票。
Today on our program, the politicians are looking for a way to connect with voters.
今天在我们的节目中，政客们正在寻找一种与选民建立联系的方式。
The voters want candidates who inspire them.
选民希望候选人能够激励他们。
So how come so few of us are like Kahari?
那么，为什么像卡哈里这样的人这么少呢？
How come so few of us have a candidate we love?
为什么我们当中很少有人有自己喜欢的候选人？
Today, we bring you stories that explain how come and stories of voters who have found inspiration.
今天，我们为您带来解释其原因的故事以及找到灵感的选民的故事。
Act One of today's show, Eliminate the Middleman.
今天节目的第一幕，消除中间人。
Sarah Vowell visits a high school class in Concord that decided to take on the national press.
莎拉·沃威尔 (Sarah Vowell) 参观了康科德市的一个高中班级，该班级决定与全国媒体对抗。
Act Two, The Mask Behind the Mask, in which an intrepid reporter tries to get beyond the sound bites with Governor George W.
第二幕《面具背后的面具》，一位勇敢的记者试图超越乔治·W·布什州长的原声摘要。
Bush and succeeds-- as well as anyone, anyway.
布什并取得了成功——无论如何，还有任何人。
Act Three, Pay No Attention to the Candidate Behind the Mosh Pit, in which we answer the question what is a presidential campaign good for anyway?
第三幕，不要关注狂欢坑背后的候选人，我们在其中回答了总统竞选到底有什么好处？
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One.
第一幕。
Eliminate the Middleman.
消除中间人。
Here in America, here is how we interact with our political candidates.
在美国，我们与政治候选人的互动方式如下。
We dispatch middlemen to the scene.
我们派出中间人到现场。
They tell us what the candidates say, they research the candidates' backgrounds, and they tell us what they think is most important.
他们告诉我们候选人说了什么，他们研究候选人的背景，他们告诉我们他们认为最重要的是什么。
These middlemen, of course, are journalists.
这些中间人当然是记者。
Sarah Vowell has this fable about the difference between the way the middlemen see the world and the way non-journalists see it.
莎拉·沃威尔（Sarah Vowell）有一个关于中间人看待世界的方式与非记者看待世界的方式之间的差异的寓言。
It all started when Joanne McGlynn's media literacy class at Concord High School invited all the presidential candidates to speak.
这一切都始于乔安妮·麦克格林在康科德高中的媒体素养课邀请所有总统候选人发言时。
Known to loiter in New Hampshire ceaselessly before the state's primary elections, a whopping 50% of the eight major candidates accepted.
众所周知，新罕布什尔州初选前一直在该州徘徊，八名主要候选人中有高达 50% 的人接受了该州初选。
Alan Keyes, Orrin Hatch, Gary Bauer, and Al Gore.
艾伦·凯斯、奥林·哈奇、加里·鲍尔和阿尔·戈尔。
They were asked to speak on the subject of school violence, not just because of the killings at Columbine but also because a Concord High School student was killed at school a couple of years ago.
他们被要求就校园暴力问题发表演讲，不仅因为哥伦拜恩发生的杀戮事件，还因为几年前康科德高中的一名学生在学校被杀。
Gore spoke to the student body on November 30, 1999, and contrary to conventional wisdom regarding his charisma deficiency, he was a hit.
1999 年 11 月 30 日，戈尔向学生团体发表讲话，与人们普遍认为他缺乏魅力的看法相反，他很受欢迎。
Students Lucas Gallo, Ashley Pettingill, and Alyssa Spellman recalled the event.
学生卢卡斯·加洛 (Lucas Gallo)、阿什利·佩廷吉尔 (Ashley Pettingill) 和艾莉莎·斯佩尔曼 (Alyssa Spellman) 回忆了这一事件。
He wasn't as stiff as people say he was.
他并不像人们说的那么僵硬。
He comes out, takes his jacket off or whatever.
他出来了，脱掉夹克什么的。
He walks around, he asks for audience participation, he talks to the audience.
他四处走动，要求观众参与，他与观众交谈。
There's a question that said, what do you like to do for fun?
There's a question that said, what do you like to do for fun?
And he mentioned that he liked The Simpsons.
他提到他喜欢《辛普森一家》。
He kind of understood that we are people, we are kids, but we're not dumb.
He kind of understood that we are people, we are kids, but we're not dumb.
We understand what's going on.
我们了解发生了什么事。
And he respected that.
他尊重这一点。
I mean, he was still Gore.
我的意思是，他仍然是戈尔。
But he wasn't quite as stiff as like-- he didn't just get up and talk like the other candidates did.
But he wasn't quite as stiff as like-- he didn't just get up and talk like the other candidates did.
He's kind of a neat speaker to see.
他是一位看起来很聪明的演讲者。
While the students were impressed by Gore's easygoing manner, his form, Joanne McGlynn was pleased with his content, the way he talked about school violence.
学生们对戈尔随和的态度和形式印象深刻，而乔安妮·麦克格林则对他的内容和他谈论校园暴力的方式感到满意。
He was very careful, I think, to describe the complicated nature of what might have caused what happened at Columbine.
我认为，他非常仔细地描述了哥伦拜恩发生的事情的复杂性。
He didn't say, it is just because those two boys played video games.
他没说，只是因为那两个男孩玩电子游戏。
He used a little analogy about when you catch a cold or when you don't.
他用了一个关于你何时感冒或不感冒的小比喻。
And he said that some kids in this auditorium had the insulation of a loving family, of teachers that cared about them, of a supportive school system, and said they perhaps were insulated from some of these outside forces and therefore were immune from committing those kinds of acts.
他说，这个礼堂里的一些孩子有一个充满爱的家庭、关心他们的老师和支持性的学校系统，并表示他们可能与其中一些外部力量隔绝，因此不会做出此类行为。
Then during the question and answer period, something happened that seemed unremarkable at the time.
然后在问答环节，发生了一件当时看来不起眼的事情。
Hello, my name is Shane Fletcher, and I want to ask you a question.
Hello, my name is Shane Fletcher, and I want to ask you a question.
How do you get students to get involved in more politics?
如何让学生更多地参与政治？
Hm.
嗯。
Joanne Mcglynn He answered in a very lengthy response.
Joanne Mcglynn He answered in a very lengthy response.
He thought for a moment, paused, and said, I know there's a lot of cynicism in the country right now.
He thought for a moment, paused, and said, I know there's a lot of cynicism in the country right now.
And he said, especially among young people.
他说，尤其是在年轻人中。
He said, I think that it's caused by a number of things.
He said, I think that it's caused by a number of things.
He said, one of them may be that we need campaign finance reform.
He said, one of them may be that we need campaign finance reform.
And he went on and talked about how he supported McCain-Feingold.
And he went on and talked about how he supported McCain-Feingold.
He then said, but I think you kids should look in the mirror.
He then said, but I think you kids should look in the mirror.
And I think that leaders can make a difference, but I think you also have to examine your own hearts.
And I think that leaders can make a difference, but I think you also have to examine your own hearts.
We are so privileged to live in this country.
我们很荣幸生活在这个国家。
If that sounds corny to you, you should examine that attitude.
如果这对你来说听起来很老套，你应该检查一下这种态度。
Seriously.
严重地。
Think about South Africa.
想想南非。
They just recently became a democracy.
他们最近才成为民主国家。
When they had their first election, you know what the percentage turnout was?
When they had their first election, you know what the percentage turnout was?
It was like 95%.
好像是95%。
People waited in lines to vote that were seven miles long.
People waited in lines to vote that were seven miles long.
Here we have a constantly declining voter turnout.
Here we have a constantly declining voter turnout.
I think it's because a lot of people feel like they cannot make an individual difference.
我认为这是因为很多人觉得他们无法做出个体差异。
But you can.
但你可以。
So he challenged them to get involved.
所以他要求他们参与进来。
And then he said, let me tell you a little story.
然后他说，让我告诉你一个小故事。
Now I'm going to play you that little story.
现在我要给你讲那个小故事。
In the days that followed Gore's appearance, this story was twisted, distorted, and ultimately more fought over than a piece of Jerusalem real estate, which is why I am going to play what he said in its entirety.
在戈尔出现后的几天里，这个故事被扭曲、歪曲，最终比耶路撒冷的一块房地产还要激烈地争夺，这就是为什么我要完整地播放他所说的内容。
Let me tell you a quick story.
让我告诉你一个简单的故事。
Twenty years ago, I got a letter from a high school student in West Tennessee about how the water-- her family was drinking from a well-- tasted funny.
二十年前，我收到西田纳西州一名高中生的一封信，信中提到她家人从井里喝的水味道很奇怪。
She wrote me how her grandfather had a mysterious ailment that paralyzed part of his body that she was convinced was related to the water.
She wrote me how her grandfather had a mysterious ailment that paralyzed part of his body that she was convinced was related to the water.
Then her father also became mysteriously ill.
随后她的父亲也神秘地患病。
People thought she was imagining things.
人们认为她是在幻想。
We investigated.
我们调查了。
And what we found was that one mile from her home, a chemical company had dug a big trench, and they were dumping millions of gallons of hazardous chemical waste into the ground.
我们发现，距离她家一英里的地方，一家化学公司挖了一条大沟，他们正在向地下倾倒数百万加仑的危险化学废物。
It had seeped down into the water table and contaminated her family's well and the wells of other families in that rural area.
它渗入地下水位，污染了她家的水井以及该农村地区其他家庭的水井。
I called for a congressional investigation and a hearing.
我呼吁国会进行调查并举行听证会。
I looked around the country for other sites like that.
我在全国各地寻找类似的网站。
I found a little place in upstate New York called Love Canal.
I found a little place in upstate New York called Love Canal.
Had the first hearing on that issue in Toone-Teague, Tennessee.
关于这个问题的第一次听证会在田纳西州图恩蒂格举行。
That was the one you didn't hear of.
那是你没听说过的。
But that was the one that started it all.
但这才是一切的开始。
We passed a major national law to clean up hazardous dump sites.
我们通过了一项重要的国家法律来清理危险垃圾场。
And we had new efforts to stop the practices that ended up poisoning water around the country.
我们采取了新的努力来制止最终导致全国各地水中毒的做法。
We've still got work to do.
我们还有工作要做。
But we've made a huge difference.
但我们已经做出了巨大的改变。
And it all happened because one high school student got involved.
而这一切的发生都是因为一名高中生的介入。
The night after the speech, Joanne McGlynn was at home and a friend called her, asking if she'd seen The New York Times .
演讲后的第二天晚上，乔安妮·麦格林在家，一位朋友打电话给她，问她是否看过《纽约时报》。
He said, did you notice the Love Canal comment?
他说，你注意到拉夫运河的评论了吗？
And I said, well, I remember he told a story about Love Canal.
我说，好吧，我记得他讲过一个关于拉夫运河的故事。
He said, well, it kind of is The Times says that Gore's taking credit for finding Love Canal.
他说，好吧，这有点像《泰晤士报》说戈尔因发现拉夫运河而居功。
And I thought, uh-oh.
我想，呃哦。
I got a bit nervous.
我有点紧张。
I thought, is that the way this story is going to be covered?
我想，这就是这个故事的报道方式吗？
Let me read from Katharine Seelye's article in The New York Times on December 1.
让我读一下 Katharine Seelye 12 月 1 日在《纽约时报》上发表的文章。
In a 17-paragraph piece about one day in the Gore campaign, four paragraphs are devoted to the Concord High appearance.
在一篇关于戈尔竞选活动一天的 17 段文章中，有 4 段专门介绍康科德高中的形象。
Seelye quoted Gore, "'I found a little place in upstate New York called Love Canal.
西耶引用戈尔的话说：“‘我在纽约州北部发现了一个小地方，名叫拉夫运河。
I had the first hearing on that issue in Toone, Tennessee,' he said, 'but I was the one that started it all.'" Curiously The Washington Post made the exact same mistake.
我在田纳西州图恩举行了关于这个问题的第一次听证会，”他说，“但我是这一切的始作俑者。””奇怪的是，《华盛顿邮报》犯了完全相同的错误。
Also on December 1, Post staff writer Ceci Connolly quoted, "I was the one that started it all."
同样在 12 月 1 日，《华盛顿邮报》特约撰稿人塞西·康诺利 (Ceci Connolly) 引用道：“我是这一切的始作俑者。”
We came in once class, and Miss McGlynn was like, you guys are not going to believe this.
我们来上课时，麦格林小姐说，你们不会相信这一点。
And she wrote up the quote on the board, and she said, did he say this?
她把这句话写在黑板上，她说，他说过这个吗？
And we were like, what, what?
我们就像，什么，什么？
Did he say this-- I was the one that started it all?
他有这么说吗——这一切都是我发起的？
And then we were like, no, he was talking about the girl.
然后我们就想，不，他在谈论那个女孩。
That event started it all.
那次事件开始了这一切。
And then we looked at all the newspapers, and we were like, wow.
然后我们看了所有的报纸，然后我们就想，哇。
She then played us back the tape that our TV production class had made.
然后她给我们播放了电视制作班制作的磁带。
And the actual quote was, "that was the one that started it all," referring to the city in Tennessee.
实际的引用是，“这就是这一切的开始”，指的是田纳西州的这座城市。
We definitely said, we have to do something about this.
我们明确表示，我们必须对此采取行动。
And we were definitely, I think, shocked that wow, that one little word, one little word totally changed the context and totally changed what everyone thought about it.
我想，我们绝对感到震惊，哇，一个小词，一个小词完全改变了上下文，完全改变了每个人的想法。
After The Times and The Post , the Love Canal mistake snowballed.
在《泰晤士报》和《邮报》之后，拉夫运河的错误愈演愈烈。
US News & World Report listed "I was the one that started it all" as one of its quotes of the week.
《美国新闻与世界报道》将“我是这一切的始作俑者”列为本周的名言之一。
And then there was the following little round table on This Week with Sam Donaldson and Cokie Roberts.
然后，《本周》与萨姆·唐纳森和科基·罗伯茨举行了以下小型圆桌会议。
Among the two hosts, George Stephanopoulos and Bill Kristol.
两位主持人中包括乔治·斯蒂芬诺普洛斯和比尔·克里斯托。
The Late Show with David Letterman dreamed up a list of the Top 10 other achievements also claimed by Al Gore.
大卫·莱特曼深夜秀列出了阿尔·戈尔也声称的其他十大成就。
Initially, the students were upset about the misquote.
起初，学生们对错误引用感到不安。
But the more they thought about it and the more they watched the misquote evolve, they were really flabbergasted by the misrepresentation of Gore's appearance at their school.
但他们越想越多，越看到错误引用的演变，他们对戈尔在学校的外表的歪曲感到震惊。
He was trying to say that kids can make a difference.
他想说的是，孩子们可以有所作为。
He was trying to say what so many high school kids in this country don't believe.
他试图说出这个国家许多高中生不相信的话。
He's running for president, so he has to be a bit selfish and boost himself when he's speaking.
他要竞选总统，所以他说话的时候必须有点自私，抬高自己。
But they totally missed the point of the entire story that he told.
但他们完全没有抓住他讲述的整个故事的重点。
He was trying to make it a clear point for us that we need to get involved and that we should and that we can do something to help.
他试图向我们明确指出，我们需要参与，我们应该参与，我们可以做一些事情来提供帮助。
And the media just didn't even mention the message that he's trying to explain or anything.
媒体甚至没有提及他试图解释的信息或其他任何内容。
The actual quote itself was, I think, completely innocent.
我认为，实际引用本身是完全无辜的。
It wasn't a look how great I am, look what I did in Love Canal.
不是看我有多伟大，而是看我在《爱运河》中所做的事情。
It was a look how great you can be.
看起来你有多棒。
That's what his message was, and that's what the papers overlooked.
这就是他的信息，而这正是报纸所忽视的。
But what if I was this reporter and I said, I'm sorry, miss.
但如果我是这位记者，我说，对不起，小姐，该怎么办？
Yes, you're right.
是的，你说得对。
I did misquote that.
我确实引用错了。
But so what?
但那又怎样呢？
I still got the gist of what he was doing right.
我仍然明白他做对的事情的要点。
Maybe he was trying to inspire you.
也许他是想激励你。
That's one part of what he was saying.
这是他所说的一部分。
But the second part of what he was saying is I was the one who brought this to fruition.
但他所说的第二部分是我是实现这一目标的人。
I, Al Gore.
我，阿尔·戈尔。
Look at me.
看着我。
I would say you're wrong.
我想说你错了。
You're focusing on one little itty-bitty microscopic thing that, when misquoted, can mean something completely different, but when quoted correctly, it means a great thing for democracy and things like that.
你关注的是一件微小的事情，如果被错误引用，可能意味着完全不同的东西，但如果正确引用，这对民主和类似的事情意味着一件伟大的事情。
If I can come clean on whom I identify with the most in this story, it isn't the students or their teacher.
如果我能坦白说我在这个故事中最认同谁，那就不是学生或他们的老师。
I identify with the New York Times reporter Katharine Seelye, who misheard a word.
我认同《纽约时报》记者凯瑟琳·西利（Katharine Seelye），她听错了一个词。
She was the one that started it all.
她是这一切的始作俑者。
I am convinced that this woman, whose job it is to follow around a man with two jobs, running for president and being vice president, is beyond overworked.
我相信，这位女士的工作就是跟随一个身兼两职的男人，竞选总统和副总统，她的工作负担已经超出了极限。
I know this partly because the first chance she got to return my phone call about all of this was at 1:15 in the morning.
我之所以知道这一点，部分原因是她第一次有机会回复我关于这一切的电话是在凌晨 1 点 15 分。
This poor reporter, this gatekeeper of democracy, was getting her first break of the day in the middle of the night.
这位可怜的记者，这位民主的守门人，在半夜第一次迎来了一天的休息。
And considering that I am a writer who has publicly misspelled names, confused Sinclair Lewis with Upton Sinclair, and gotten who knows how many things wrong over the years, I am one pot who should not be calling The Grey Lady black.
考虑到我是一名公开拼写错误名字的作家，将辛克莱·刘易斯与厄普顿·辛克莱混淆，这些年来不知犯了多少错误，我是一个不应该称灰女士为黑人的人。
Both The New York Times and The Washington Post did publish corrections.
《纽约时报》和《华盛顿邮报》均发布了更正。
And this is what Seelye told me.
这就是 Seelye 告诉我的。
About the students of Concord High, she said, "These kids are well intentioned.
关于康科德高中的学生，她说：“这些孩子是出于好意。
They're paying attention.
他们正在关注。
We did get one word wrong.
我们确实听错了一个词。
But they're magnifying what happened.
但他们正在放大所发生的事情。
Gore did say, 'I found a little town in upstate New York called Love Canal.'" She continued, "He called the AP in Buffalo the next day and apologized for presuming to take credit for that."
戈尔确实说过，‘我在纽约州北部发现了一个名叫拉夫运河的小镇。’”她继续说道，“第二天他给布法罗的美联社打电话，并为擅自抢功而道歉。”
The journalists were, in fact, correct when they said that Love Canal was already a front-page story, an official national emergency months before Al Gore ever held hearings.
事实上，记者们的说法是正确的，拉夫运河事件已经成为头版新闻，在阿尔·戈尔举行听证会之前几个月，该事件已经成为正式的国家紧急状态。
But as you heard yourself, Gore never claimed to have been the one to have first brought Love Canal to national attention.
但正如你自己听到的那样，戈尔从未声称自己是第一个让拉夫运河引起全国关注的人。
He only claimed to have held the first congressional hearings on it.
他只是声称已经就此举行了第一次国会听证会。
I think what shocks me, though, is that there seems, on some parts of the media that we've talked to, very little remorse.
然而，令我震惊的是，在我们采访过的某些媒体上，似乎没有多少悔意。
That surprises me, that it was just a word.
让我惊讶的是，这只是一个词。
I guess I have my own bias or perception as I look at the event.
我想当我看待这个事件时，我有自己的偏见或看法。
The week before Al Gore came, our entire school had to practice a lockdown procedure.
阿尔·戈尔来的前一周，我们整个学校都必须实行封锁程序。
And a lockdown procedure is something I had never experienced except as a kid in Catholic school in Rhode Island in the early '60s.
封锁程序是我除了 60 年代初在罗德岛州天主教学校读书之外从未经历过的事情。
The nuns had us hiding under our desks or putting our heads down to protect us from nuclear fallout from when the Russians were going to bomb us.
当俄罗斯人轰炸我们时，修女们让我们躲在桌子底下或低下头，以保护我们免受核辐射的影响。
And now in 1999, we are-- or we were in 1999-- being asked to run through an event as though a sniper were out in the hallway.
现在，在 1999 年，我们——或者说我们在 1999 年——被要求像狙击手在走廊里一样经历一场活动。
This came down as a recommendation from the state of New Hampshire, their safety planning group.
这是新罕布什尔州安全规划小组的建议。
And it just so happened that we had our first practice session the week before Al Gore came to Concord High School.
碰巧的是，我们在阿尔·戈尔来到康科德高中的前一周进行了第一次练习。
So our principal came over the intercom and said, teachers, please implement the lockdown procedure.
于是我们校长通过对讲机说道，请老师们执行封锁程序。
We knew ahead of time this was going to happen sometime during the next two days.
我们提前知道这将在接下来两天的某个时间发生。
I had to take my freshmen and move them away from the door, get them on the floor, turn their desks on their sides so they would be protected as much as they could be in case someone came into the room or attempted to come into the room with a gun.
我不得不带着我的新生，把他们从门口移开，让他们坐在地板上，把他们的桌子翻到一边，这样他们就能得到尽可能多的保护，以防有人走进房间或试图带着枪进入房间。
We had to be silent.
我们必须保持沉默。
I had to go out in the hallway and lock the door and grab any kid who might have been returning from the bathroom, hoping this kid was not the person that we needed to worry about, grab that kid, pull them in, and ask my students to be quiet.
我不得不走到走廊上，锁上门，抓住任何可能从浴室回来的孩子，希望这个孩子不是我们需要担心的人，抓住那个孩子，把他们拉进去，并要求我的学生保持安静。
I have to tell you, it was very unsettling.
我必须告诉你，这非常令人不安。
The thought that one of our students could be out in the hallway trying to harm us, it's a very complicated emotional response.
一想到我们的一名学生可能会在走廊里试图伤害我们，这是一种非常复杂的情绪反应。
Many of us were very uncomfortable during the lockdown-- but couldn't show that to the kids, wanted to show the kids that they were safe and not to worry.
我们中的许多人在封锁期间感到非常不舒服，但无法向孩子们展示这一点，只是想让孩子们知道他们是安全的，不用担心。
So I thought Gore did a good job talking about this issue.
所以我认为戈尔在这个问题上做得很好。
I thought this was an issue that should be one of the prime ones in our presidential campaign.
我认为这个问题应该成为我们总统竞选中的首要问题之一。
And I feared immediately when I heard Love Canal that somehow what had happened at Concord High would become a joke.
当我听到拉夫运河的消息时，我立即担心康科德高中发生的事情会成为一个笑话。
And in some ways, that is what happened.
在某些方面，这就是发生的事情。
It just makes me sad that the wise-guy attitude seems to dominate the press right now.
令我感到难过的是，聪明人的态度似乎现在主导了媒体。
And that's what I pick up on.
这就是我所注意到的。
Not to pick on Chris Matthews, but he spent two nights having a blast with this story about Love Canal, getting a big chuckle out of Dan Quayle may not be able to spell potato, but now Al Gore's going to claim he invented it.
不是为了挑剔克里斯·马修斯，而是他花了两个晚上的时间来欣赏这个关于爱运河的故事，丹·奎尔大笑起来，他可能不会拼写土豆，但现在阿尔·戈尔要声称他发明了它。
Chris Matthews refers to Al Gore as Zelig.
克里斯·马修斯将阿尔·戈尔称为泽利格。
I think he has Edmund Morris writing his speeches for him.
我认为他让埃德蒙·莫里斯为他写演讲稿。
Well, maybe where Chris works, that seemed like a funny thing to say.
好吧，也许在克里斯工作的地方，这似乎是一件有趣的事情。
But where I work, it didn't seem that funny.
但在我工作的地方，这似乎并不那么有趣。
Where I work, hiding some day, pretending to be hiding behind desks with kids, afraid that Klebold and Harris are outside my door, it didn't seem that funny.
在我工作的地方，有一天躲起来，假装和孩子们一起躲在桌子后面，担心克莱伯德和哈里斯在我门外，这似乎并不那么有趣。
It really didn't seem that funny.
看起来真的没那么好笑。
And I'm not saying our candidates should be untested, unquestioned, uncriticized.
And I'm not saying our candidates should be untested, unquestioned, uncriticized.
I'm not saying that in the least.
我根本不是这么说的。
But I am saying if that's all we do, and if all we do is make fun of them, then we're losing something too, I think.
但我想说的是，如果这就是我们所做的一切，如果我们所做的只是取笑他们，那么我认为我们也会失去一些东西。
I feel like some reporters are just printing stuff that doesn't promote anybody anymore.
我觉得有些记者只是在印刷一些不再宣传任何人的东西。
They're just saying what they did wrong.
他们只是说他们做错了什么。
I asked 16-year-old Ashley Pettingill what we lose when the press omits descriptions of how a candidate might actually make a good president.
我问 16 岁的阿什利·佩廷吉尔（Ashley Pettingill），当媒体忽略了候选人如何真正成为一名好总统的描述时，我们会失去什么。
I think we miss out on every reason to vote for them.
我认为我们错过了投票给他们的所有理由。
At Concord High School, a politician actually spoke inspiringly and connected with the audience, which to me is news.
在康科德高中，一位政治家实际上发表了鼓舞人心的演讲并与观众建立了联系，这对我来说是新闻。
But no reporter reported this.
但没有记者报道此事。
And in fact, these kind of moments are routinely overlooked by the press.
事实上，这些时刻经常被媒体忽视。
They're barely part of our national political discourse.
They're barely part of our national political discourse.
But why?
但为什么？
For one thing, so much political speech is lies, spin, and misrepresentation, it's understandable that journalists report these inspiring moments skeptically, if at all.
一方面，如此多的政治言论都是谎言、歪曲和歪曲，记者以怀疑的态度报道这些鼓舞人心的时刻，如果有的话，这是可以理解的。
And beyond that, the way most of the press works is pretty much as you suspect.
除此之外，大多数媒体的运作方式与你所怀疑的差不多。
Representatives of the news media carry around storylines of the candidates in their heads, and reporters light up when reality randomly corroborates these pictures.
新闻媒体代表的脑海中浮现着候选人的故事情节，而当现实随机证实这些图片时，记者们就会兴奋不已。
One of the great mysteries of modern politics is which storylines get told and which get ignored.
现代政治的最大谜团之一是哪些故事情节被讲述，哪些故事情节被忽视。
And in the primary season, that storyline is still up for grabs.
在第一季中，这个故事情节仍然有待争夺。
John McCain's storyline, hero, threatened to become hypocrite in light of his helping a major donor with the FCC.
约翰·麦凯恩的故事情节，英雄，由于帮助联邦通信委员会的一位主要捐助者，有可能成为伪君子。
Not long after George W.
乔治·W·布什 (George W.
Bush flunked a foreign policy pop quiz, it appeared his name tag at the Correspondents Dinner was destined to read, "Hello, my name is Dunderhead."
布什在一次外交政策小测验中未及格，看来他在记者晚宴上的名牌上注定会写着：“你好，我的名字是邓德黑德。”
Gore's storyline, that he's a bore, is spiced up by this secondary storyline, that he's a braggart, that he takes credit for ridiculous things, for inventing the internet, and for being the real life Oliver of Love Story.
戈尔的故事情节，他是一个无聊的人，被第二个故事情节所刺激，他是一个吹牛者，他因荒谬的事情而受到赞扬，因为他发明了互联网，并且因为他是爱情故事中现实生活中的奥利弗。
So of course the Love Canal misunderstanding screamed to reporters because it brought this particular fuzzy snapshot of Gore into sharper focus.
因此，拉夫运河的误解当然引起了记者们的尖叫，因为它使戈尔的这张特殊的模糊快照变得更加清晰。
It is telling that both the reporter for The Times and the one for The Post heard the exact same word incorrectly, almost as if that was what they wanted to hear.
很能说明问题的是，《泰晤士报》和《华盛顿邮报》的记者都错误地听到了同一个词，就好像这就是他们想听到的一样。
Teacher Joanne McGlynn says that this is a seductive impulse for both reporters and voters.
乔安妮·麦克格林老师说，这对记者和选民来说都是一种诱人的冲动。
This editor for US News & World Report called and said that-- and this was after he admitted he was sorry that they had published a misquote-- he told me a story about George Bush Sr. running for president in 1992.
《美国新闻与世界报道》的这位编辑打电话给我，并告诉我一个关于 1992 年老乔治·布什竞选总统的故事，他承认对他们发表了错误的引用感到抱歉。
And I remember the story myself, that George Bush went into a supermarket and was stunned to find a scanner-- I guess he was used to old cash registers-- and made a comment that showed he was surprised to see a scanner.
我自己也记得这个故事，乔治·布什走进一家超市，惊讶地发现了一台扫描仪——我猜他已经习惯了旧的收银机——并发表了评论，表明他对看到扫描仪感到惊讶。
What this gentleman from US News & World Report told me was, actually the pool reporter got that story wrong, that it was actually some kind of new scanner that Bush remarked on.
《美国新闻与世界报道》的这位先生告诉我的是，实际上泳池记者的报道是错误的，布什所说的实际上是某种新型扫描仪。
But that comment then became the symbol or the iconic moment for Bush being out of touch with Middle America.
但这一评论随后成为布什与美国中部脱节的象征或标志性时刻。
And that was it.
就是这样。
I think that might have hurt Bush big time.
我认为这可能对布什造成很大伤害。
Now, it turned out-- if this man is right from US News & World Report-- not to be accurate.
现在，事实证明——如果《美国新闻与世界报道》中的这个人是对的——那就不准确了。
Now, if it wasn't accurate, was it not true?
现在，如果它不准确，那不是真的吗？
I mean, was Bush out of touch with Middle America?
我的意思是，布什是否与美国中部脱节了？
It's the same thing going back to Gore.
回到戈尔也是同样的情况。
Does Gore take credit?
戈尔有功劳吗？
It makes me question.
这让我产生疑问。
And I have to say, I am going to keep my eyes open in a way I hadn't before, and particularly when things automatically fit my mindset.
我不得不说，我将以一种前所未有的方式保持警惕，尤其是当事情自动符合我的心态时。
I'm going to be a little more careful.
我会更加小心一点。
It' didn't surprise me that maybe President Bush didn't know about a scanner.
也许布什总统不知道扫描仪，这并不令我感到惊讶。
But if he did, it's too bad that got out there.
但如果他真的这么做了，那就太糟糕了。
It's not fair.
这不公平。
I looked at Joanne McGlynn's syllabus for her media literacy course, the one she handed out at the beginning of the year stating the goals of the class.
我查看了乔安妮·麦格林的媒体素养课程大纲，她在年初分发的课程大纲阐述了课程的目标。
By the end of the year, she hoped her students would be better able to challenge everything from novels to newscasts, that they would come to identify just who is telling a story and how that person's point of view affects the story being told.
到今年年底，她希望她的学生能够更好地挑战从小说到新闻广播的一切内容，以便他们能够确定谁在讲一个故事，以及这个人的观点如何影响所讲的故事。
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this lesson has been learned.
我要大胆地说，我们已经吸取了这个教训。
In fact, just recently, a student came up to McGlynn and told her something all good teachers dream of hearing.
事实上，就在最近，一名学生来到麦格林面前，告诉她一些所有好老师都梦寐以求的事情。
The girl told the teacher that she was listening to the radio, singing along with her favorite song.
女孩告诉老师她正在听广播，唱着她最喜欢的歌曲。
And halfway through the singalong, she stopped and asked herself, what am I singing?
唱到一半时，她停下来问自己，我在唱什么？
What do these words mean?
这些话是什么意思？
What are they trying to tell me?
他们想告诉我什么？
And then this young citizen of the republic jokingly complained, I can't even turn on the radio without thinking more.
然后这位共和国的年轻公民开玩笑地抱怨道，我什至无法不加思考地打开收音机。
Sarah Vowell is a columnist for Salon, the online magazine.
莎拉·沃威尔 (Sarah Vowell) 是在线杂志《沙龙》的专栏作家。
She has a new collection of essays coming out called Take the Cannoli.
她出版了一本新的散文集，名为《Take the Cannoli》。
Coming up, the finger-wagging styles of presidential candidates throughout history, and how George W.
接下来是历史上总统候选人的手指摇摆风格，以及乔治·W·布什 (George W.
Bush acts in his own car.
布什开着自己的车行事。
That's in a minute from Public Radio International when our program continues.
一分钟后，国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life .
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme, bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme.
当然，每周我们的节目都会选择一个主题，为您带来有关该主题的各种不同类型的故事。
Today's show, Tales from the New Hampshire Primary, stories about why it is so hard for us to feel inspired by and connected to presidential candidates and of people who have managed that trick.
今天的节目《新罕布什尔州初选故事》讲述了为什么我们很难受到总统候选人和成功做到这一点的人的启发并与之建立联系。
We have arrived at act two of our program.
我们已经进入了计划的第二幕。
Act Two, The Mask Behind the Mask.
第二幕，面具背后的面具。
The front-runners always seem more protected.
领先者似乎总是受到更多保护。
They are always the least spontaneous, the most packaged.
它们总是最不自发、最包装的。
They have the most to lose from a gaff, after all.
毕竟，他们的失误会造成最大的损失。
And they have more people gunning for them too.
而且也有更多的人在为他们开枪。
Take George W.
以乔治·W.
Bush.
布什。
In debates, he'll often repeat the same few answers to several different questions.
在辩论中，他经常对几个不同的问题重复相同的几个答案。
Sarah Koenig has been covering the Bush campaign for months for the newspaper The Concord Monitor in New Hampshire, trying to get to know the real George W.
莎拉·科尼格（Sarah Koenig）几个月来一直在为新罕布什尔州的《协和监视器》报纸报道布什的竞选活动，试图了解真正的乔治·W·布什。
Bush, the man behind the message.
布什，这个消息的幕后黑手。
I am in Austin, sitting in the back of George W.
我在奥斯汀，坐在乔治·W·布什的后座上。
Bush's dusty blue Lincoln Town Car.
布什的灰蓝色林肯城市轿车。
He's twisting a gum wrapper around and around his finger, and he's grouchy.
他把口香糖包装纸绕在手指上，而且很不高兴。
He's fighting the flu, I find out later.
我后来才知道，他正在与流感作斗争。
But right now, I think I must be letting him down somehow.
但现在，我想我一定让他失望了。
Back in his office at the state house, I had asked him about Texas politics and education reform.
回到他在州议会大厦的办公室，我向他询问了德克萨斯州的政治和教育改革。
He seemed bored.
他看起来很无聊。
His eyes moved around distractedly and his answers were the same ones I had heard him intone on the stump in New Hampshire about the American dream touching every willing heart.
他的眼睛心不在焉地转动着，他的答案和我在新罕布什尔州的树桩上听到的一样，都是关于美国梦感动每一颗愿意的心。
Suddenly he announced the interview was over.
突然他宣布采访结束。
Bush must have sensed my disappointment because he said I could ride with him from his office to the Governor's mansion if I wanted.
布什一定感觉到了我的失望，因为他说如果我愿意的话，我可以和他一起从他的办公室骑车到州长官邸。
He sits in the front seat and I sit in back.
他坐在前排，我坐在后排。
And after two and a half blocks, we arrive at the mansion.
两个半街区后，我们到达了宅邸。
The driver pulls under the portico, but Bush doesn't like where he stops, so he makes him move up a few inches.
司机把车停在门廊下，但布希不喜欢他停在哪里，所以他让他向上移动了几英寸。
I consider that a while, those few inches.
我想了一会儿，那几英寸。
After covering George Bush for months, this is what I've come to.
在报道乔治布什几个月后，这就是我的结论。
I'm thinking any move he makes that isn't on a campaign schedule, anything he says that isn't scripted, even something as small as this, might be a clue to figuring out who he really is.
我认为他所做的任何不在竞选计划中的举动，任何他所说的没有剧本的事情，即使是像这样的小事情，都可能是弄清楚他到底是谁的线索。
In New Hampshire, Bush had been friendly.
在新罕布什尔州，布什一直很友好。
He even seemed to like me.
他甚至看起来还喜欢我。
After just one meeting, he almost remembered who I was.
只见过一次面，他就差不多记起我是谁了。
We were next to each other in this heaving mass of reporters and townspeople, and he squinting at me and pointed.
在这一大群记者和市民中，我们并肩而行，他眯着眼睛看着我，指着我。
Yale, right?
耶鲁，对吗？
No, Governor, I said, almost.
不，州长，我说，差不多了。
Then I think he asked my name, and after that, he knew who I was.
然后我想他问了我的名字，之后他就知道我是谁了。
He would wink at me from the vortex of huge crowds.
他会在拥挤的人群中对我眨眼。
Once he walked past me on his way to deliver a speech about education policy and he pinched my elbow.
有一次，他在发表有关教育政策的演讲的路上从我身边走过，他掐了我的胳膊肘。
When I was on his bus with some other reporters, he patted my knee.
当我和其他一些记者在他的公共汽车上时，他拍了拍我的膝盖。
This wasn't flirting.
这不是调情。
It was a kind of affectionate teasing.
这是一种深情的调侃。
It's a side of George Bush you don't see on television.
这是你在电视上看不到的乔治·布什的一面。
You don't see how he leans in so close to people he looks as if he's going to kiss them.
你看不到他是如何靠得如此之近，看起来就像要亲吻他们一样。
You don't hear the nicknames, the wisecracks, the asides.
你不会听到绰号、俏皮话和旁白。
But off screen, he bestows them liberally, especially to the press.
但在银幕之外，他却慷慨地给予它们，尤其是给予媒体。
A baby would cry and he'd blame the guy from The Houston Chronicle .
婴儿哭了，他就会责怪《休斯敦纪事报》的那个人。
He'd make the New York Times reporter giggle by telling him to get a haircut.
他让《纽约时报》记者去理发，让他咯咯地笑。
So here we are in Austin, parked in front of the mansion, sitting in the Lincoln Town Car, and despite our chummy rapport, the interview is proceeding miserably.
所以我们在奥斯汀，把车停在豪宅前，坐在林肯城市轿车里，尽管我们关系融洽，采访却进展得很糟糕。
Our conversation is petering out, and I think he's going to ditch any second.
我们的谈话正在逐渐结束，我想他随时都会放弃。
But he doesn't.
但他没有。
Instead, he faces the windshield and his voice gets quiet.
相反，他面向挡风玻璃，声音变得安静。
And that's when he mentions his nest.
这时他提到了他的巢。
He likes campaigning, he says, but he longs for the comforting feeling of being around his own cats and dog.
他说，他喜欢竞选，但他渴望与自己的猫和狗在一起的舒适感。
"One thing about campaigning that I miss is not being in my nest," he says.
“我怀念竞选活动的一件事就是不在自己的窝里，”他说。
It occurs to me that this is perhaps the first thing he's ever said to me that he hasn't said to anyone else.
我突然想到，这可能是他对我说过的第一句话，但他没有对其他人说过。
His aides tell me to be at the mansion at 6:00 AM the next day if I want to observe Bush being interviewed by a 10-year-old.
他的助手告诉我，如果我想观察布什接受 10 岁孩子的采访，请于第二天早上 6:00 到达官邸。
I go.
我去。
In a fatherly tone, he recites for the boy the same platform points that have already saturated the national news, including that kid-friendly one about developing anti-ballistic missile systems.
他以慈父般的语气为男孩背诵了那些已经充斥着全国新闻的平台要点，其中包括有关开发反弹道导弹系统的适合儿童的内容。
Afterward, we chat in one of the period sitting rooms, and Bush elaborates on his nesting pattern.
之后，我们在一间具有时代特色的客厅里聊天，布什详细阐述了他的筑巢模式。
He's the first up, he walks the dog, he feeds the little cat that sleeps inside, he lets in the yellow cat that sleeps outside, he feeds the little black cat that stays outside all the time, he makes coffee and brings it to the First Lady, they read newspapers in the sack.
他是第一个起来的，他遛狗，喂睡在里面的小猫，他让睡在外面的黄猫进来，他喂一直呆在外面的小黑猫，他煮咖啡并把它带给第一夫人，他们读麻袋里的报纸。
Then he has a light breakfast and gets dressed and wanders around the house looking for something to do.
然后他吃了一顿清淡的早餐，穿好衣服，在房子里闲逛，找点事做。
He's at work by 7:30 or 8:00.
他 7:30 或 8:00 上班。
I tell him I'm impressed and that I'm tired.
我告诉他我很感动并且我很累。
It's now 6:30 in the morning.
现在是早上 6 点 30 分。
He asks me how old I am.
他问我多大了。
Thirty, I tell him.
三十岁，我告诉他。
See, I was sluggish, too, at 30, he says.
你看，30 岁时我也变得迟钝了，他说。
He tells me by the time I'm his age, 53, I'll be more energetic.
他告诉我，当我到他这个年纪的时候，53 岁，我会更有活力。
Your biological clock, he says, it's like clockwork.
他说，你的生物钟就像发条一样。
Maybe I have just glimpsed the real George Bush.
也许我刚刚看到了真正的乔治·布什。
Maybe the real George Bush talks about his nest.
也许真正的乔治布什谈论他的巢穴。
Weeks later, I ask one of Bush's aides about it.
几周后，我向布什的一位助手询问了此事。
And I'm asking if he's said that before.
我问他以前是否说过这样的话。
Yes, he has said that before.
是的，他以前说过。
He says he likes his routine.
他说他喜欢他的日常生活。
He likes getting up in the morning, letting the dog out, playing with the dogs, feeding the cats, picking up the newspapers, going upstairs, making some coffee, reading the newspapers.
他喜欢早上起床，放狗出去，和狗玩耍，喂猫，拿起报纸，上楼，煮点咖啡，看报纸。
Has he used the word nest?
他用过巢这个词吗？
Bush Aide I believe he's used the word nest before.
布什助手我相信他以前用过“巢”这个词。
In one sense, you want to give Bush and all these politicians a break.
从某种意义上说，你想让布什和所有这些政客休息一下。
They have to talk to scores of people every day, and they're trying to win over every single one.
他们每天必须与许多人交谈，并且他们正在努力赢得每一个人的支持。
It's like trying to land a date with an entire village.
这就像试图与整个村庄约会一样。
How many charming stories, stories that we'd be willing to broadcast, stories that have to be personal but not too personal, does any of us have?
我们有多少迷人的故事，我们愿意传播的故事，必须是个人但又不能太个人的故事？
A dozen?
十几个？
A half dozen?
六打？
I figured if Bush was not in a position to tell me who he was, maybe people who had been around him in Texas could.
我想，如果布什无法告诉我他是谁，也许德克萨斯州他周围的人可以。
I called Harvey Kronberg, a veteran political reporter who describes himself, like many Texans do, as a liberal Republican or a moderate Democrat.
我给哈维·克朗伯格（Harvey Kronberg）打了电话，他是一位资深政治记者，像许多德克萨斯人一样，他将自己描述为自由派共和党人或温和派民主党人。
Kronberg tells me the Texas press had the same difficulty getting to know Bush when he was first running for governor.
克朗伯格告诉我，当布什第一次竞选州长时，得克萨斯州的媒体在了解他时也遇到了同样的困难。
He had a standard stump speech.
他发表了标准的竞选演讲。
And at that time, he was running on four principles, juvenile justice reform, education reform, tort reform, and welfare reform.
当时他的竞选原则有四项：少年司法改革、教育改革、侵权改革和福利改革。
And you just could not break him off of those four items on his agenda.
你无法让他摆脱议程上的这四个项目。
You would ask about him about the weather and it would ultimately lead back to education reform or tort reform.
你会向他询问天气情况，这最终会导致教育改革或侵权改革。
It was very frustrating, and you began to suspect, like folks are suspecting now, there might be less there than meets the eye.
It was very frustrating, and you began to suspect, like folks are suspecting now, there might be less there than meets the eye.
From the press corps position, we were all pretty doubtful, I think, going into his first legislative session as to whether he had the mental horsepower to pull it off.
我认为，从记者团的角度来看，在他进入他的第一次立法会议时，我们都非常怀疑他是否有足够的精神力量来实现这一目标。
Of course, we were pleasantly surprised as the session progressed.
当然，随着会议的进展，我们感到惊喜。
Kronberg said once he took office, Bush loosened up and understood the state's business as shrewdly as any of his predecessors.
克朗伯格说，布什一上任就放松了态度，并像他的任何前任一样精明地了解国家的事务。
Sadly, for us non-Texans, now that Bush is again running for office, he's back on message in every conversation except when he's either joking around or annoyed.
可悲的是，对于我们非德克萨斯人来说，既然布什再次竞选公职，他在每次谈话中都会回到信息，除了开玩笑或生气的时候。
Those are the moments when Bush seems most real to me.
在我看来，那些时刻是布什最真实的时刻。
In moments of irritation, you can glimpse his vulnerability, his youth, even.
在恼怒的时刻，你可以看到他的脆弱，甚至他的青春。
Back in New Hampshire, I make another attempt to slip behind the sound bites.
Back in New Hampshire, I make another attempt to slip behind the sound bites.
I know he reads the Bible every day, and I decide to ask him about it.
I know he reads the Bible every day, and I decide to ask him about it.
I borrow a Gideon Bible from a Holiday Inn and bring it to a press availability in Portsmouth.
I borrow a Gideon Bible from a Holiday Inn and bring it to a press availability in Portsmouth.
Is there a particular passage he turns to for strength?
他有没有从某一段经文中寻求力量？
I ask him.
我问他。
As a matter of fact, I'm reading Matthew right now.
As a matter of fact, I'm reading Matthew right now.
And one of the great parts of Matthew is the fifth chapter called the Beatitudes.
马太福音最重要的部分之一是第五章，称为八福。
And I think it's good that people read the Beatitudes, no matter what your religion may be.
And I think it's good that people read the Beatitudes, no matter what your religion may be.
The interesting thing about religion and politics-- I answer questions about my religion because I'm mindful of what happens in politics.
The interesting thing about religion and politics-- I answer questions about my religion because I'm mindful of what happens in politics.
When politicians say vote for me, I'm superior to you.
当政客说投票给我时，我就比你优越。
That's not what I'm saying.
我不是这个意思。
As a matter of fact, I'm coming from the different perspective.
事实上，我是从不同的角度来的。
I want people to know that I'm a person who seeks religion because I realize I, too, am a sinner.
I want people to know that I'm a person who seeks religion because I realize I, too, am a sinner.
And I, too, need strength.
而我，也需要力量。
You mean to show you where the Beatitudes are?
你是想告诉你八福在哪里吗？
Is this a test?
这是一个测试吗？
Sarah Koenig No, it's not a test.
Sarah Koenig 不，这不是测试。
A Bible test.
圣经测试。
I haven't read it, so I couldn't possibly test you.
I haven't read it, so I couldn't possibly test you.
You've never read the Bible?
你没读过圣经吗？
Sarah Koenig I admit I have never.
莎拉·柯尼格 我承认我从来没有。
That's OK.
没关系。
I still like you as a person.
我还是喜欢你这个人。
Thank you.
谢谢。
George W.
乔治·W.
Bush I'm more worried about your stories I'm in than whether you've read the Bible.
Bush I'm more worried about your stories I'm in than whether you've read the Bible.
No, I'm teasing you.
不，我是在逗你。
Where am I now?
我现在在哪里？
I was reading about the house divided upon itself.
I was reading about the house divided upon itself.
Let me see here.
让我看看这里。
Hold on a second.
等一下。
I'll run upstairs and get my Bible where it's marked.
我会跑上楼去把我的圣经拿到有标记的地方。
Sarah, I don't think you think I read the Bible, do you?
莎拉，我想你不认为我读过《圣经》，是吗？
No, I think you do.
不，我想你会的。
George W.
乔治·W.
Bush OK, good.
布什 好的，很好。
Why don't you think that I think you do?
为什么你不认为我认为你这样做？
Well, I'm just curious.
嗯，我只是好奇。
This is kind of a very interesting line of questioning for me to show you where I am exactly in the Bible this morning.
对我来说，这是一个非常有趣的问题，目的是向你们展示我今天早上在圣经中的确切位置。
It's just interesting.
这很有趣。
It's never happened before in the midst of a presidential campaign.
It's never happened before in the midst of a presidential campaign.
At any rate--
无论如何——
He finds the section he's looking for and holds it up so everyone can see.
He finds the section he's looking for and holds it up so everyone can see.
We all nod.
我们都点头。
Finally, I ask him outright how close the real George Bush is to the one we see campaigning, if there are parts of himself he withholds from the public.
最后，我直截了当地问他，如果他向公众隐瞒了自己的某些部分，那么真正的乔治·布什与我们所看到的竞选者有多接近。
This isn't falling into psychobabble, is it?
这不会陷入心理胡言乱语吧？
I don't know.
我不知道。
You tell me.
你告诉我。
George W.
乔治·W.
Bush That's a very interesting question, Sarah.
布什：这是一个非常有趣的问题，莎拉。
If there were, I don't think I could-- this is a process that pretty much over time exposes all.
If there were, I don't think I could-- this is a process that pretty much over time exposes all.
I think it's very hard to be a private person in the midst of a very public campaign.
我认为在一场非常公开的竞选活动中作为一个私人人物是非常困难的。
And if you're watching me very closely, you'll get glimpses into my heart and what makes me tick over time.
如果你非常仔细地观察我，你就会瞥见我的内心，以及是什么让我随着时间的推移而运转。
His wife, Laura, gently knocks on the door and comes in.
His wife, Laura, gently knocks on the door and comes in.
There I was, just getting-- I was psycho-babbling much more than your ever dreamt.
我就在那里——我的心理胡言乱语比你想象的要多得多。
The question was would you care to psycho-babble about yourself?
问题是你愿意对自己进行心理喋喋不休吗？
Anyway, there are moments when I like to be alone.
Anyway, there are moments when I like to be alone.
I bet you people don't know about me that I am a person of routines around the house.
我敢打赌你们不了解我，我是一个在家里有规律的人。
I will give you a routine that I miss a lot, and that's early morning.
我会给你一个我很怀念的例行公事，那就是清晨。
I love to wake up, particularly if I had some sleep, and the first thing that happens is one of the cats will kind of come up and jump on the bed.
我喜欢醒来，特别是当我睡了一觉的时候，发生的第一件事就是其中一只猫会跳上床。
This is the indoor-- we have three cats, two that stay outside at night, one that stays inside.
这是室内的——我们有三只猫，两只晚上呆在外面，一只呆在里面。
And we have one dog that stays inside at night, and outside during the day.
我们有一只狗，晚上呆在室内，白天呆在外面。
Anyway-- and I walk down to the kitchen feeder, I turn on the coffee--
不管怎样——我走到厨房喂食器前，打开咖啡——
Everyone I talk to about Bush, his friends, his colleagues, his brother Jeb, said the man they know is the same at home as he is at work, the same one we see.
与我谈论布什的每个人、他的朋友、他的同事、他的兄弟杰布都说，他们认识的这个人无论在家里还是在工作中都是一样的，我们所看到的都是一样的。
After watching him for months, I think that's probably true with one caveat.
在观察了他几个月后，我认为这可能是真的，但有一点需要注意。
For now, every story he tells in public has a purpose.
目前，他在公开场合讲述的每个故事都有一个目的。
Take the nesting story.
以筑巢故事为例。
Once I've heard it three times, I finally realize Bush's message is this.
听了三遍，我终于意识到布什的信息是这样的。
I do not snort cocaine or dance naked on table tops.
我不会吸食可卡因，也不会在桌面上裸体跳舞。
I might live in a mansion, but I make my own coffee.
我可能住在豪宅里，但我自己煮咖啡。
I do not think the presidency is my birthright.
我不认为总统职位是我与生俱来的权利。
I am a humble, loving family man, satisfied by simple pleasures such as providing for those meeker than myself, like my pets.
我是一个谦虚、充满爱心的家庭男人，满足于简单的快乐，比如为那些比我温顺的人提供食物，比如我的宠物。
I love my home.
我爱我的家。
I love my nest.
我爱我的小窝。
I don't mind sharing that with you, because I understand how public my life is in the course of a campaign.
我不介意与你分享这一点，因为我知道我的生活在竞选过程中是多么公开。
Sarah Koenig is a political reporter for The Concord Monitor.
莎拉·科尼格 (Sarah Koenig) 是《协和监察报》的政治记者。
[MUSIC - "NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW" BY HANK WILLIAMS, SR.]
[音乐 - 老汉克·威廉姆斯的《无人知晓》]
Act Three.
第三幕。
Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Mosh Pit.
不要注意 Mosh Pit 后面的那个人。
In this cynical age, we end our show today with a story of citizens who feel perfectly connected to their candidate of choice, who feel inspired by him.
在这个愤世嫉俗的时代，我们以一个公民的故事结束今天的节目，这些公民感觉自己与自己选择的候选人有着完美的联系，并受到他的启发。
This American Life producer Alex Blumberg tells this story.
《美国生活》制片人亚历克斯·布隆伯格讲述了这个故事。
Let's play a little game.
我们来玩一个小游戏吧。
I'll describe a group of people, you guess the candidate they support.
我将描述一群人，你猜猜他们支持的候选人。
Ready?
准备好？
It's a couple of dozen teenagers outside the presidential primary debates in Durham, New Hampshire.
几十名青少年在新罕布什尔州达勒姆的总统初选辩论场外。
They're all wearing bright orange t-shirts, talking about punk rock and skateboarding in the freezing cold.
他们都穿着亮橙色的 T 恤，在寒冷的天气里谈论朋克摇滚和滑板。
One of the kids is wearing nothing but jeans and a t-shirt.
其中一个孩子只穿着牛仔裤和 T 恤。
Give up?
放弃？
It's pretty cold out here, but I'm freezing for a reason.
这里很冷，但我却因为某种原因而感到寒冷。
And that reason is Steve Forbes!
这个原因就是史蒂夫·福布斯！
[CHEERING] Youth For Forbes Freezing for a reason!
[欢呼]福布斯青年冻结是有原因的！
Freezing for a reason!
冻结是有原因的！
Freezing for a reason!
冻结是有原因的！
Steve Forbes!
史蒂夫·福布斯！
Alex Blumberg Meet Youth for Forbes.
亚历克斯·布隆伯格 (Alex Blumberg) 为《福布斯》杂志采访青年。
Freezing for a reason!
冻结是有原因的！
Youth For Forbes Leader Steve Forbes!
福布斯青年领袖史蒂夫·福布斯！
A group of young people so psyched about their millionaire publisher candidate that they'll burst into spontaneous cheering at the slightest provocation.
一群年轻人对他们的百万富翁出版商候选人如此兴奋，哪怕是最轻微的挑衅，他们也会自发地欢呼起来。
Witness this exchange.
见证这次交流。
To a party for Steve Forbes!
参加史蒂夫·福布斯的派对！
Youth For Forbes Leader We're going to Huddleston Hall.
福布斯青年领袖 我们要去哈德尔斯顿庄园 (Huddleston Hall)。
We're going to party for Steve Forbes.
我们要为史蒂夫·福布斯举办派对。
Maybe there are hard-bitten reporters out there who could resist such an enthusiastic reception, but I am not one of them.
也许有一些铁石心肠的记者能够抗拒如此热情的接待，但我不是其中之一。
As we walk to their van from the debate site, I establish a few facts.
当我们从辩论现场走向他们的货车时，我证实了一些事实。
They're not paid, they get no school credit, and though they're almost all from Republican families, their parents have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they're volunteering.
他们没有报酬，没有学分，尽管他们几乎都来自共和党家庭，但他们的父母与他们志愿服务的事实毫无关系。
Very few of their parents even support Steve Forbes.
他们的父母中很少有人支持史蒂夫·福布斯。
These kids are here because in their view, nothing could be more fun.
这些孩子来到这里是因为在他们看来，没有什么比这更有趣的了。
We get to the hall where New Hampshire's Forbes supporters have gathered to watch the debate on a big screen TV.
我们到达新罕布什尔州福布斯支持者聚集的大厅，通过大屏幕电视观看辩论。
It's striking that of the almost 200 people here, fully half of them aren't old enough to vote.
令人惊讶的是，在场的近 200 人中，足有一半的人还没有达到投票年龄。
The Forbes campaign claims to have the biggest Republican youth organization in New Hampshire.
福布斯竞选团队声称拥有新罕布什尔州最大的共和党青年组织。
And when you go to campaign events, this claim seems believable.
当你参加竞选活动时，这种说法似乎是可信的。
There are always more young people there for Forbes, which is incredible when you think about it.
福布斯总是有更多的年轻人，仔细想想，这真是令人难以置信。
Steve Forbes, the flat tax candidate?
史蒂夫·福布斯，统一税候选人？
I mean, can there be an issue less likely to inspire the nation's youth than the US tax code?
我的意思是，还有什么问题比美国税法更不可能激励这个国家的年轻人呢？
Most teenagers haven't even seen a 1040 form.
大多数青少年甚至没有见过 1040 表格。
It's going to be a mail-in postcard.
这将是一张邮寄明信片。
That's going to be great.
那会很棒的。
That's going to be so much easier than anything else, especially reading through all the laws and then filling out a 10-page report.
这比其他任何事情都要容易得多，尤其是通读所有法律，然后填写一份 10 页的报告。
Aside from their views on taxes, most of what the Forbes kids say isn't what you'd typically call conservative.
除了对税收的看法之外，福布斯孩子们所说的大部分内容都不是你通常所说的保守派。
When I do pin them down on what issues they care about, they trot out these suspiciously liberal chestnuts-- global warming and education.
当我确实确定他们关心什么问题时，他们会抛出这些可疑的自由派栗子——全球变暖和教育。
I ask how Forbes' plan to radically scale back the size of government will help address these issues.
我问《福布斯》大幅缩减政府规模的计划将如何帮助解决这些问题。
An athletic type named John tells me it's simply a matter of resource allocation.
一位名叫约翰的运动员告诉我，这只是一个资源分配的问题。
For example, in Manchester a lot of money the past couple years has been spent in law enforcement trying to take skateboarding off of the streets.
例如，在曼彻斯特，过去几年在执法部门花费了大量资金，试图将滑板运动从街道上剔除。
Not to be biased or anything.
不要有偏见什么的。
But a lot of wasted money was used to hire more cops to just go downtown and bust people for having a fun time.
但大量浪费的钱被用来雇佣更多的警察去市中心抓捕那些玩得开心的人。
That money could have been spent on education.
这笔钱本来可以用于教育。
During John's little speech, all the kids were crowding around and making these funny little hand gestures.
在约翰的简短演讲期间，所有的孩子都围拢过来，做出这些有趣的小手势。
It went like this.
事情是这样的。
Hold your hand with your fingers extended in a karate chop position.
握住你的手，手指伸出，呈空手道斩击姿势。
Then fold the bottom two fingers back into your palm.
然后将底部的两根手指折回到手掌中。
The kids held both hands in this position, two fingers extended, and sort of chopped them up and down as John talked.
孩子们将双手保持在这个位置，伸出两个手指，在约翰说话时上下挥舞着它们。
Fifteen or 20 of them, all doing it at once.
十五个或二十个，同时进行。
I asked one of them about it.
我向其中一位询问了此事。
Oh, that's just what Steve does when he talks, Mike says.
哦，史蒂夫说话时就是这么做的，迈克说。
It's very French, Ryan explains.
这是非常法国式的，瑞安解释道。
And then Ted demonstrates how the gesture fits into a timeline of presidential hand postures.
然后特德展示了这个手势如何适应总统手势的时间线。
He makes a fist, his thumb on top.
他握紧拳头，拇指放在上面。
JFK did this with the thumb.
肯尼迪用拇指做到了这一点。
See my thumb is at my index.
看我的拇指在食指处。
He went do-do-do-do-do.
他嘟、嘟、嘟、嘟、嘟。
And then Bill Clinton, his thumb inside, like this.
然后是比尔·克林顿，他的拇指在里面，像这样。
And Steve Forbes is just an open hand like this.
史蒂夫·福布斯就是这样张开双手。
They say you can tell how excited he is by how high in the air his hands get.
他们说你可以从他的双手举在空中的高度看出他有多兴奋。
I've only seen up like eyebrow level.
我只看到了眉毛高度。
Some people have seen overhead, though.
不过，有些人已经看到了头顶。
Oh, I've seen overhead a few times, actually.
哦，实际上我已经见过几次头顶了。
I've seen an overhead when we bring a lot of people to the rallies, he sees us, he jumps into the speech about Social Security, just like he said.
当我们带很多人参加集会时，我看到了一个开销，他看到我们，他就跳入有关社会保障的演讲，就像他说的那样。
He jumps up there.
他跳到那里。
He's very into it.
他非常热衷于此。
If you don't have orange, put orange on please.
如果你没有橙色，请加橙色。
If you don't have orange, put orange on please.
如果你没有橙色，请加橙色。
At the far side of the room, the presidential debate on television ended.
在房间的另一边，电视上的总统辩论结束了。
And at a certain point, the call came that Forbes was on his way.
就在某个时刻，接到电话说福布斯已经在路上了。
I mean, millions of people are watching this at home.
我的意思是，数百万人正在家里观看这个节目。
And they're going to go home tomorrow, go to school tomorrow and say, yeah, I watched it on TV.
他们明天回家，明天去学校，然后说，是的，我在电视上看过。
Well, we didn't watch it.
嗯，我们没看。
We made it happen.
我们做到了。
We made it happen.
我们做到了。
Youth For Forbes Leader This is just great.
福布斯青年领袖 这太棒了。
We were there.
我们在那里。
Youth For Forbes Leader We were.
福布斯青年领袖 我们是。
We were here.
我们就在这里。
[CHEERING] Steve Forbes You said you want him.
[欢呼] 史蒂夫·福布斯 你说过你想要他。
Now you've got him.
现在你得到了他。
Forbes finally arrives.
福布斯终于来了。
And the kids' impersonations of his oratorical style are remarkably accurate.
孩子们对他演讲风格的模仿非常准确。
His hands karate chop up and down on every syllable.
他的双手空手道般地在每一个音节上上下划动。
He looks like a badly operated puppet.
他看起来就像是一个操作不当的木偶。
With your help, we can make it happen.
在您的帮助下，我们可以实现这一目标。
And before I go, I do want to introduce you again-- most of you have met her-- to the one who is going to make a superb First Lady.
在我走之前，我确实想再次向你们介绍——你们中的大多数人都见过她——一位将成为出色的第一夫人的人。
She's raised five daughters.
她养育了五个女儿。
And if you can do that, you can handle the politicians of Washington.
如果你能做到这一点，你就能对付华盛顿的政客。
My wife, Sabina.
我的妻子，萨宾娜。
At this, kids spontaneously burst into Wayne and Garth we're not worthy bows in the direction of Forbes' wife.
听到这里，孩子们自发地冲向韦恩和加思，我们不配向福布斯的妻子鞠躬。
She beams at them.
她对他们微笑。
They beam back.
他们回以光彩。
They've gone through this ritual before.
他们以前经历过这个仪式。
On his way out, after finishing a speech, Forbes walked up to some of the kids, including Ryan and Chris, and shook their hands.
结束演讲后，福布斯在离开时走到包括瑞安和克里斯在内的一些孩子面前，与他们握手。
He shook your hand?
他握了你的手吗？
Ryan Yes, he shook my hand.
瑞安 是的，他握了我的手。
Did he say anything to you?
他有对你说什么吗？
Ryan He said, thank you for the support.
Ryan He表示，谢谢大家的支持。
Compare to this to another way you felt at other times in your life.
将此与您在生活中其他时候的另一种感受进行比较。
It feels like the first time I landed a Misty Flip.
这感觉就像我第一次着陆 Misty Flip。
Misty Flip, a snowboarding maneuver in which the rider turns a forward sommersault, while at the same time, rotating his body axially.
迷雾翻转（Misty Flip），一种滑雪动作，骑手向前翻筋斗，同时轴向旋转身体。
Let's continue.
我们继续吧。
I'm sorry, to take your time.
抱歉，耽误您时间了。
Mr. Forbes, I was just at the event tonight.
福布斯先生，我刚刚参加了今晚的活动。
When I catch up with the candidate himself, he's clearly pleased with his newfound popularity among the cool kids, even if he doesn't completely understand it.
当我采访到这位候选人本人时，他显然对自己在酷孩子中的新人气感到满意，尽管他并不完全理解这一点。
Well, I like vanilla stuff, and the Misty Flip--
嗯，我喜欢香草味的东西，还有 Misty Flip——
No, no. Wrong.
不，不。错误的。
Wrong.
错误的。
Steve Forbes --is chocolate.
史蒂夫·福布斯——是巧克力。
He goes on to tell me that his campaign is an idealistic one, and that's part of the appeal to teenagers.
他接着告诉我，他的竞选活动是一场理想主义的竞选活动，这也是对青少年有吸引力的一部分。
But it still doesn't explain the essential question.
但还是没有解释清楚本质问题。
How did this stiff, socially awkward man corral the passions of New Hampshire's skate punks?
这个僵硬、不善社交的男人是如何激发新罕布什尔州滑板朋克的热情的呢？
Well, meet 21-year-old Mike DelBene.
那么，来认识一下 21 岁的迈克·德尔贝尼 (Mike DelBene)。
I get that question a lot.
我经常听到这个问题。
I get a lot of, well, how do you get kids out to support a candidate who may not be real smooth or may not be real funny?
我收到很多人的疑问，如何让孩子们支持一位可能不太圆滑或不太有趣的候选人？
I wish I could say that all I had to do was wave a picture of Steve Forbes in front of their face and they would come running.
我希望我能说，我所要做的就是在他们面前挥动一张史蒂夫·福布斯的照片，他们就会跑过来。
You can't do that.
你不能那样做。
Mike DelBene is a regional youth coordinator for Forbes 2000.
Mike DelBene 是福布斯 2000 强的地区青年协调员。
He's also the reason all these teenagers love Steve Forbes.
他也是所有这些青少年喜爱史蒂夫·福布斯的原因。
How does he do it?
他是怎么做到的？
One of his main recruiting tricks is simply being Mike DelBene.
他的主要招聘技巧之一就是成为迈克·德尔贝尼。
Chelsea White, one of Mike's recruits, says that when Mike came to her school, he was somehow different than the competition.
迈克的新兵之一切尔西·怀特 (Chelsea White) 表示，当迈克来到她的学校时，他与竞争对手有些不同。
The guy that came for Bush, he was just boring.
那个来找布什的人，他只是很无聊。
He had no idea what he was talking about.
他不知道自己在说什么。
He had nothing to say.
他无话可说。
He just talked about himself, and he didn't really say, oh, we get to do this and we get to do that.
他只是谈论他自己，并没有真正说，哦，我们可以这样做，我们可以这样做。
He just said, vote for Bush, vote for Bush.
他只是说，投票给布什，投票给布什。
And we were just like, OK, nope.
我们只是想，好吧，不。
So what exactly did Mike say, I ask her, that made volunteering sound so fun, so appealing, that she signed up with Forbes?
我问她，迈克到底说了些什么，让志愿服务听起来如此有趣、如此吸引人，以至于她报名参加了《福布斯》？
He was just telling us about all the campaigns, and the debates, and lit drops and what everybody does and stuff.
他只是告诉我们所有的竞选活动、辩论、点燃的蜡烛以及每个人所做的事情。
OK.
好的。
Lit drops?
点燃水滴？
Mike Delbene What I always try to do is I always try to take everything that we do and put a fun twist on it.
Mike Delbene 我一直想做的是，我总是尝试把我们所做的一切都融入其中，并加入一些有趣的元素。
Not only when we actually do it, but when I explain it.
不仅是当我们实际做的时候，而且当我解释的时候也是如此。
Like a literature drop, you take a literature drop that adults are doing.
就像文学滴一样，你接受成年人正在做的文学滴。
They'll walk up with a piece of literature to a door, they'll knock on the door, the person will come out, they'll introduce themselves, they'll explain, they'll say, this is the literature for Steve Forbes.
他们会拿着一篇文献走到门口，他们会敲门，那个人会出来，他们会介绍自己，他们会解释，他们会说，这是史蒂夫·福布斯的文献。
We would like you to come vote.
我们希望您能来投票。
And they'll take hours and hours to do it.
他们需要花上几个小时才能做到这一点。
Youth for Forbes, we take literature, we hang it on the door knob, we knock, ring the doorbell, and run away.
《福布斯》的青春，我们拿着文学，把它挂在门把手上，我们敲门，按响门铃，然后逃跑。
Ringing and running for Forbes is exactly what it is.
为福布斯鸣响并竞选正是如此。
Absolutely.
绝对地。
And we have a great time doing it.
我们玩得很开心。
We have a great time doing it.
我们玩得很开心。
Yeah.
是的。
I ask them to just come try it, to just come try it once.
我请他们来尝试一下，只来尝试一次。
And they come out, they can feel the excitement of the campaign, the excitement of the lights, the cameras.
当他们出来时，他们可以感受到竞选活动的兴奋，灯光和摄像机的兴奋。
And I always give them the opportunity to meet the candidate.
我总是给他们机会见到候选人。
I think if you take a kid who says, I don't care about politics.
我想如果你有一个孩子说，我不关心政治。
What do I care, you know?
我关心什么，你知道吗？
And you put him in a room with a presidential candidate, and the presidential candidate walks over and stops and looks him right in the eye, says hello, and shakes his hand, as tough as that kid tries to be tough and say, ah, that didn't make me-- his eyes are going to light up.
你把他和一位总统候选人放在一个房间里，总统候选人走过去，停下来，直视他的眼睛，打个招呼，然后握他的手，就像那个孩子试图强硬地说，啊，这并没有让我——他的眼睛会发光。
All the hair on the back of his neck's going to stand up, and he's going to go away feeling tickled pink.
他脖子后面的汗毛都会竖起来，离开时他会感到粉红色的痒痒的。
Because young people need and want and appreciate being part of something huge like this.
因为年轻人需要、想要并欣赏成为这样的伟大事业的一部分。
They want to be part of what's going on.
他们希望成为正在发生的事情的一部分。
And then once they're hooked to being part of what's going on, now they sit down and they listen to Steve.
一旦他们迷上了正在发生的事情，他们就会坐下来听史蒂夫说话。
And now they hear what he's saying.
现在他们听到了他说的话。
Students actually believe in a flat tax, the students that work with us.
与我们一起工作的学生实际上相信统一税。
They actually believe that Social Security should be privatized.
他们实际上认为社会保障应该私有化。
They actually are pro-life.
他们实际上是反堕胎的。
But what gets them out is the excitement.
但让他们出来的是兴奋。
[UNINTELLIGIBLE] Alex Blumberg Here, this is what Mike DelBene has wrought.
[无法理解] Alex Blumberg 这就是 Mike DelBene 所做的事情。
At an all-ages punk show at the Sad Cafe in Plaistow, New Hampshire, there are high school seniors who can quote Steve Forbes' best lines in Steve Forbes' voice like their favorite song lyrics.
在新罕布什尔州普莱斯托的 Sad Cafe 举行的全年龄段朋克表演中，高中生们可以用史蒂夫·福布斯的声音引用史蒂夫·福布斯最好的台词，就像他们最喜欢的歌词一样。
And 17-year-old Ryan tells me this.
17 岁的 Ryan 告诉我这一点。
I'm at the office almost every day just recruiting and making phone calls and doing any other job that they need.
我几乎每天都在办公室，只是招聘、打电话以及做他们需要的任何其他工作。
I've found something that I actually want to do for the rest of my life-- politics.
我找到了我真正想做一辈子的事情——政治。
Say hypothetically Forbes doesn't get the nomination this go-around.
假设福布斯这次没有获得提名。
All the hours, all the volunteers, all the cold calls, what does it accomplish to run for president and lose?
所有的时间、所有的志愿者、所有的推销电话，竞选总统却失败了，这能带来什么结果呢？
What does a failed presidential bid create in the world?
失败的总统竞选会给世界带来什么？
It's entirely possible that the most lasting achievement of the Forbes campaign will be how it affects the lives of these teenagers, true believers in the flat tax, true believers in the political process.
福布斯运动最持久的成就完全有可能是它如何影响这些青少年的生活，这些青少年是单一税的真正信徒，是政治进程的真正信徒。
As New Hampshire's finest punk rock blasts through the club's speakers, I watch the kids, future campaign managers, press secretaries, political strategists, fling themselves around the mosh pit like spawning salmon.
当新罕布什尔州最好的朋克摇滚乐在俱乐部的扬声器中响起时，我看着孩子们、未来的竞选经理、新闻秘书、政治战略家，像产卵的鲑鱼一样在狂欢池里嬉戏。
Alex Blumberg.
亚历克斯·布隆伯格。
Credits Ira Glass Well, our program was produced today by Alex Blumberg and myself, with Susan Burton, Blue Chevigny, and Julie Snyder.
图片来源：Ira Glass 好吧，我们今天的节目是由 Alex Blumberg 和我本人以及 Susan Burton、Blue Chevigny 和 Julie Snyder 共同制作的。
Contributing editors Paul Tough, Jack Hitt, Margy Rochlin, Alix Spiegel, Nancy Updike, and consigliere Sarah Vowell.
特约编辑 Paul Tough、Jack Hitt、Margy Rochlin、Alix Spiegel、Nancy Updike 和顾问 Sarah Vowell。
Production help from Todd Bachman and Starlee Kine, our producer trainee.
托德·巴赫曼 (Todd Bachman) 和我们的实习制片人斯塔莉·凯恩 (Starlee Kine) 为制作提供帮助。
This is her last program with us.
这是她和我们一起参加的最后一个节目。
We will badly, badly miss her.
我们会非常非常想念她。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] To buy a cassette of this program, call us here at WBEZ in Chicago, 312-832-3380.
[鸣谢] 要购买该节目的磁带，请致电我们芝加哥的 WBEZ，电话：312-832-3380。
But you know, you can listen to most of our programs for free on the internet at our website www.thisamericanlife.org This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
但您知道，您可以在我们的网站 www.thisamericanlife.org 上免费收听我们的大部分节目。《This American Life》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Torey Malatia, who told us this at our last staff meeting--
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理监督由 Torey Malatia 负责，他在上次员工会议上告诉我们这一点——
I found a little place in upstate New York called Love Canal.
我在纽约州北部发现了一个叫做爱运河的小地方。
I'm Ira Glass, back next week with most stories of This American Life.
我是艾拉·格拉斯，下周回来，带来《美国生活》的大部分故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。