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141：看不见的世界

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00:00 00:00 文字记录分享此美国生活生活伙伴如何收听剧集推荐关于概述员工公告奖学金工作音乐在路上制作电台常见问题解答提交商品联系我们我们的其他节目商品关注我们生活伙伴订阅我们的时事通讯整集切换音频和文字记录同步文字记录 | 内容第 141 集 | 1999 年 10 月 1 日 141：看不见的世界注：《美国生活》是为耳朵而制作的，旨在让人们听到。

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如果可以的话，我们强烈建议您收听音频，其中包括页面上没有的情感和重点。

Transcripts are generated using a combination of speech recognition software and human transcribers, and may contain errors.

文字记录是使用语音识别软件和人工转录员结合生成的，可能包含错误。

Please check the corresponding audio before quoting in print.

请在印刷版引用前检查相应的音频。

Prologue Ira Glass Let's start with what's legal.

序言 Ira Glass 让我们从合法的事情开始。

Let's start with what we're allowed to hear.

让我们从我们被允许听到的内容开始。

This would be actually your off-the-shelf radio here.

这实际上是您现成的收音机。

And so to power it up--

所以要给它供电——

OK.

好的。

And I'll go ahead and give you your short now.

现在我将继续给您做简短的介绍。

It's a 83-year-old male, difficulty breathing, O2 sats are falling.

这是一名 83 岁男性，呼吸困难，O2 饱和度下降。

811 receive.

811接收。

Ira Glass These are transmissions from a police scanner, a little radio the size of a walkie-talkie that picks up 911 dispatches, fire, highway patrol, the police.

Ira Glass 这些是来自警察扫描仪的传输，这是一个对讲机大小的小型无线电，可以接收 911 调度、消防、高速公路巡逻和警察的信息。

There are lots of people who listen in.

有很多人在听。

There's been many instances, where, for an hour, they've tracked an individual on foot, running through neighborhoods.

在很多情况下，他们在一个小时内跟踪一个步行穿过社区的人。

And as you're listening to the police officer running and talking into his mic at the same time, and they're panting, they're out of breath.

当你听到警察一边跑一边对着麦克风讲话时，他们气喘吁吁，上气不接下气。

And a lot of times you'll hear an officer tackle an individual, and, at the same time, he's trying to talk on his mic.

很多时候你会听到一名警官在对付一个人，同时他又试图用麦克风说话。

And you can hear the struggle.

你可以听到挣扎的声音。

You can hear the screaming, the yelling, the swearing.

你可以听到尖叫声、叫喊声、咒骂声。

And you are there.

你就在那里。

Literally, you are there.

从字面上看，你就在那里。

I have another party trying to get the patient to vomit now.

我现在还有另一方试图让病人呕吐。

We're trying to instruct him not to do that.

我们正试图指示他不要这样做。

He said that he is acting sleepy.

他说他表现得很困。

811 copy.

811副本。

Ira Glass It's legal to listen in to emergency transmissions like this.

Ira Glass：收听这样的紧急广播是合法的。

But there is an entire invisible world, thousands of voices, passing through your body right now on radio waves, signals from cellular phones and cordless phones, military transmissions, and baby monitors, voices that you are not supposed to listen to.

但是有一个完整的看不见的世界，成千上万的声音，现在通过无线电波、来自蜂窝电话和无绳电话、军事传输和婴儿监视器的信号穿过你的身体，这些声音是你不应该听到的。

I have a hard time accepting that.

我很难接受这一点。

I think that if it's traveling through my body right now, why shouldn't I be allowed to listen to it?

我想，如果它现在正在我的身体里传播，为什么我不应该被允许聆听它呢？

I don't care how sensitive the material is.

我不在乎材料有多敏感。

If you're transmitting it through my body, I'm going to monitor it.

如果你通过我的身体传播它，我就会监视它。

Today, on our radio program, people who are trying to make this invisible world visible, like this man, like many others, and stories of other invisible worlds.

今天，在我们的广播节目中，人们试图让这个看不见的世界变得可见，就像这个人和其他许多人一样，以及其他看不见的世界的故事。

From WBEZ Chicago and Public Radio International, it's This American Life.

来自芝加哥 WBEZ 和国际公共广播电台的《This American Life》。

I'm Ira Glass.

我是艾拉·格拉斯。

Our program today, seeing the invisible world, stories of what is all around us all the time beyond sight.

我们今天的节目，看到了看不见的世界，看到了我们周围那些看不见的故事。

Act One of our program, Faster Than A Speeding Bullet.

我们节目的第一幕，比飞速的子弹还快。

People who figure out ways to hide 80-foot radio antennas in their backyards, who monitor the radio voices that are passing through all of our bodies right now at the speed of light, and what they know that you and I don't know.

人们想出了在自家后院隐藏 80 英尺长无线电天线的方法，他们监视着以光速穿过我们全身的无线电声音，以及他们所知道的你我所不知道的事情。

Act Two, More Powerful Than A Locomotive.

第二幕，比机车更强大。

We've all been in conversations where something, some truth, just hovers in the air unsaid, everybody aware of it.

我们都曾在谈话中遇到过一些事情，一些真相，只是悬而未决，每个人都意识到了这一点。

In this act, we examine just how powerful that force can be with case examples from David Sedaris, Scott Carrier, Sarah Vowell, Brady Udall, and Lan Samantha Chang.

在本次行动中，我们通过 David Sedaris、Scott Carrier、Sarah Vowell、Brady Udall 和 Lan Samantha Chang 的案例来检验这种力量有多么强大。

Act Three, Able To Leap Tall Buildings.

第三幕，能够跳跃高楼。

This is the story of a man who sneaks through back hallways, searches abandoned subway stations, crawls through miles of drain pipe, and in general, goes all the places that you are not supposed to go.

这是一个男人的故事，他偷偷穿过后面的走廊，搜索废弃的地铁站，爬过数英里的排水管，总的来说，去了所有你不应该去的地方。

And what he finds there.

以及他在那里发现了什么。

Act Four, Look, Up In The Sky.

第四幕，看，在天空中。

My friend, what sort of incredibly sophisticated species are we?

我的朋友，我们是怎样一种极其复杂的物种？

We are a species that, to confirm the existence of one of the basic building blocks of our universe, a subatomic particle hurdling here from the sun all the time, we had to use some of the same materials that you would use to remove a stain from a tie.

我们这个物种，为了确认我们宇宙的基本组成部分之一的存在，即一种始终与太阳隔绝的亚原子粒子，我们必须使用一些与去除领带上的污渍相同的材料。

Stay with us.

留在我们身边。

Act One, Faster Than A Speeding Bullet.

第一幕，比飞速的子弹还快。

Well, it took a while for our producer Alex Blumberg to enter the community of people who listen in on the invisible world at the nether reaches of the radio spectrum, so much of their listening is illegal.

好吧，我们的制作人亚历克斯·布隆伯格花了一段时间才进入了在无线电频谱深处收听无形世界的人们的社区，所以他们的大部分收听都是非法的。

But he found a guide or two.

但他找到了一两个向导。

I'll call him George.

我就叫他乔治吧。

We met over email.

我们是通过电子邮件认识的。

He said he knew lots of people who were involved in hard-core monitoring, illegal stuff.

他说他认识很多参与核心监控和非法活动的人。

But he wouldn't get into the details.

但他不愿透露细节。

He said he didn't want to elaborate until we met in person.

他说在我们亲自见面之前他不想详细说明。

I expected a sunlight-deprived mole-man type, phreak spelled with a PH.

我以为他是一个缺乏阳光的鼹鼠人，用 PH 拼写的飞客。

But George pulled up in a red sports car.

但乔治开着一辆红色跑车停了下来。

He wore a backwards baseball cap.

他戴了一顶反着的棒球帽。

I liked him.

我喜欢他。

He said his father bought him his first radio, a regular AM transistor radio, when he was four or five.

他说，当他四五岁时，父亲给他买了第一台收音机，一台普通的 AM 晶体管收音机。

And from that moment on, I was hooked.

从那一刻起，我就着迷了。

Every night, before I went to bed, I'd fiddle with it.

每天晚上睡觉前我都会摆弄它。

And I'd tune the static noise.

我会调整静态噪音。

And I always loved tuning between the actual audible stations.

我一直喜欢在实际的可听电台之间进行调音。

Every once in a while, you'd hear a station ID from several states away, sometimes, whatever, a quarter or halfway across the country.

每隔一段时间，你就会听到来自几个州之外的电台ID，有时，无论如何，跨越国家四分之一或一半。

And it was just bewildering to me that these signals could travel such great distances.

令我感到困惑的是，这些信号可以传播这么远的距离。

At age 10, he went to Radio Shack and got his first scanning radio, one that tunes frequencies outside the normal FM and AM bands.

10 岁时，他去了 Radio Shack，得到了他的第一台扫描收音机，它可以调谐正常 FM 和 AM 频段之外的频率。

In those days, the instruction manuals that came in the box actually told you how to use the equipment to eavesdrop on cordless phone conversations.

那时，包装盒中的使用说明书实际上告诉您如何使用该设备窃听无绳电话通话。

And so thumbing through the manual, I thought that would be one of the more intriguing things to monitor.

因此，翻阅手册后，我认为这将是需要监控的更有趣的事情之一。

So that's probably one of the first things I tuned to.

所以这可能是我首先关注的事情之一。

And sure enough, there's several.

果然，有好几个。

Dozens of neighbors blabbing away, talking about marital situations, everything.

几十个邻居喋喋不休，谈论婚姻状况，无所不包。

How were you feeling when you were listening to those people?

当你听那些人的讲话时，你的感受如何？

Was it something like-- I mean I imagine it must have been a mixture of emotions as you're listening.

是不是——我的意思是，我想你在听的时候一定是多种情绪的混合体。

What were they?

他们是什么？

Actually, again, you got to remember I was very young at this stage, I don't know, whatever, 10 or so.

事实上，你必须记住，我在这个阶段还很年轻，我不知道，无论如何，10岁左右。

And there were no mixed emotions.

而且没有任何复杂的情绪。

It was just plain exciting.

这实在是太令人兴奋了。

But George got bored with his neighbors' marital squabbles.

但乔治对邻居的婚姻争吵感到厌倦。

His radio collection grew to include declassified military receivers, shortwave radios, old Motorola walkie-talkies picked up at flea markets.

他的收音机收藏逐渐包括解密的军用接收机、短波收音机、从跳蚤市场买到的旧摩托罗拉对讲机。

He would listen at night, tuning new bands, different frequencies, fishing through static, hunting for transmissions like this one.

他会在晚上收听，调整新的频段、不同的频率，通过静电钓鱼，寻找像这样的传输。

I believe I had just begun to fiddle with the radio that evening.

我相信那天晚上我才刚刚开始摆弄收音机。

And I just got lucky.

我只是很幸运。

I was just tuning a portion of the spectrum that I usually don't tune.

我只是调整了我通常不调整的频谱的一部分。

And very, very slowly was spinning the tuning dial.

调谐旋钮非常非常缓慢地旋转。

All of a sudden, you hear this faint noise in the background.

突然，你听到背景中有微弱的噪音。

And you kind of zero in and find out exactly what frequency it is.

然后你将其归零并找出确切的频率。

And then from there, utilize the rest of the components on the radio to zero in on that frequency, pull it out of the mud, and you could understand by what was being said that it was a rescue operation.

然后从那里，利用无线电上的其余组件将该频率归零，将其从泥浆中拉出来，您可以通过所说的内容了解这是一次救援行动。

I heard one of individuals transmit their call.

我听到其中一人转达了他们的电话。

And I looked it up.

我查了一下。

And it was obviously a Coast Guard helicopter.

这显然是一架海岸警卫队直升机。

And it then became obvious that they were off the coast of Florida.

然后很明显他们就在佛罗里达州海岸附近。

And people were in the water, they were trying to pull them out.

人们在水里，他们试图把他们拉出来。

Things were not going very well.

事情进展得不太顺利。

They could not reach the individual.

他们无法联系到该人。

And you're there.

你就在那里。

Time just starts to go so quick then.

然后时间就开始过得很快。

It seemed like I'd been listening for, I don't know, maybe 10, 15 minutes.

我不知道，好像我已经听了大概 10、15 分钟。

But after glancing at the clock, it had probably been one or two hours.

但看了一眼时间，大概已经过去一两个小时了。

It literally felt like 5 or 10 minutes.

感觉就像 5 或 10 分钟。

It's almost like waking up from a dream, especially when you take the headset off, and there are, whatever, ambient room noises start to fill your head again.

这几乎就像从梦中醒来一样，尤其是当您摘下耳机时，无论怎样，房间周围的噪音又开始充斥您的脑海。

It's like waking up from a dream.

就像从梦中醒来一样。

For two decades, George has been entering this dream world nearly every day for hours, mapping the terrain of the electromagnetic spectrum.

二十年来，乔治几乎每天都会进入这个梦想世界几个小时，绘制电磁频谱的地形图。

The portion of the spectrum that most of us are familiar with-- the AM, FM broadcast bands that you get on your car radio, your home stereo, whatever-- they're just an extremely small grain of sand on a massive beach.

我们大多数人都熟悉的频谱部分——汽车收音机、家庭立体声音响等上的 AM、FM 广播频段——它们只是广阔海滩上的一粒极其微小的沙子。

And the exciting stuff is really outside of that area.

令人兴奋的事情确实超出了该领域。

It's a world that can be heard, but not seen.

这是一个听得见却看不见的世界。

It's everything just rolled into one big ball.

所有的东西都被卷成一个大球。

And people have to realize that it's vast.

人们必须意识到它是巨大的。

It's astronomically huge.

这是一个天文数字般的巨大。

Again, I've been doing this for 20 years, and I haven't even scratched the surface.

再说一遍，我已经这样做了 20 年，但我什至都没有触及皮毛。

I haven't even begun to get a grasp on everything that's out there.

我什至还没有开始掌握外面的一切。

Out here, we have a total of five antennas.

在这里，我们总共有五个天线。

The top antenna is what's called a Grove Scanner Beam.

顶部天线是所谓的 Grove Scanner Beam。

It looks like the television antenna.

它看起来像电视天线。

The little one below it--

下面那个小家伙——

I'll call this guy Morpheus.

我称这个人为莫菲斯。

Morpheus is one of George's idols.

墨菲斯是乔治的偶像之一。

George says Morpheus lives, breathes, and sleeps radio.

We're in Morpheus's backyard, and he's showing us his antennas, three on the roof, each with a different purpose, and two more that run from the house underground where they come up at the base of a tall tree.

我们在莫菲斯的后院，他向我们展示了他的天线，三个在屋顶上，每个都有不同的用途，还有两个从房子地下延伸出来，长在一棵大树的根部。

This is where it comes out.

这就是它的出处。

And these go approximately about 80 feet up the tree.

这些都在树上大约 80 英尺处。

If you look up the tree back here a little bit, you might be able to see them.

如果你稍微抬头看一下后面的树，你也许就能看到它们。

I painted them a flat black, as compared to their original color, which is a nice shiny silver.

与它们原来的颜色相比，我把它们漆成了纯黑色，原来的颜色是漂亮的闪亮银色。

You can see up there with a little coil.

你可以看到上面有一个小线圈。

He's afraid that if people would see two 80-foot antennas from the street, they'd break in and steal his equipment.

Inside, Morpheus crams most of his gear on a beat-up set of wooden shelves.

在里面，墨菲斯把他的大部分装备都塞在一套破旧的木架子上。

They're right next to the bed where he and his wife sleep, so if emergency channels start chattering in the middle of the night, he won't have to sprint across the hall to hear.

它们就在他和妻子睡觉的床旁边，所以如果紧急频道在半夜开始喋喋不休，他不必跑过大厅就能听到。

He shows me a computer that, incredibly, gives a real-time readout of every city and county employee using a two-way radio at that instant from state trooper to municipal groundskeeper.

他向我展示了一台计算机，令人难以置信的是，该计算机使用双向无线电实时读取从州警察到市政场地管理员的每个城市和县雇员的信息。

He shows me portable radio gear and a safe where he stores two high-powered assault rifles.

他向我展示了便携式无线电设备和一个保险箱，里面存放着两支高威力突击步枪。

Then he steers me to something he calls, "The great book of all knowledge."

然后他引导我读一本他称之为“所有知识的伟大书籍”的书。

What we have here is a very large three-ring binder, a few inches thick, full of pages and pages of numbers and little notes.

我们这里有一个非常大的三环活页夹，几英寸厚，里面装满了一页又一页的数字和小笔记。

What this is, is a compilation of pretty much everything I can receive from here as a personal reference.

这是我从这里收到的几乎所有内容的汇编，作为个人参考。

I've compiled this since I've been-- oh, jeez-- about 18 years worth of work here, on and off.

自从我在这里断断续续地工作了大约 18 年以来，我就开始编写这篇文章了。

This covers what I refer to as "DC to daylight," which means basically all frequencies from zero to a zillion.

这涵盖了我所说的“直流到日光”，这基本上意味着从零到无数的所有频率。

We'll go to the bottom here.

我们将到这里的底部。

Well, it's really low.

嗯，确实很低。

The binder is like a phone book except instead of last names, there are five and six digit numbers representing frequencies.

活页夹就像一本电话簿，只不过不是姓氏，而是代表频率的五位和六位数字。

And next to each frequency is a brief description of what it's used for.

每个频率旁边都有其用途的简要说明。

Morpheus flips through page by page and points.

墨菲斯一页一页地翻着，点着。

"This frequency is a pirate shortwave.

“这个频率是盗版短波。

That one's what commercial airplanes use to communicate with the control tower."

这就是商用飞机用来与控制塔进行通信的方式。”

Well, let's see.

好吧，让我们看看。

United States Air Force Hickam.

美国空军希卡姆。

Hickam is in Hawaii.

希卡姆在夏威夷。

Submarine teletype, nothing to listen to there.

潜艇电传打字机，那里没什么可听的。

Shortwave broadcast.

短波广播。

Ooh, clandestine military activity.

哦，秘密军事活动。

And then these--

然后这些——

He points to a whole range of frequencies, taking up a page or two in the binder.

他指出了整个频率范围，占据了活页夹中的一两页。

"The Air Force's global high-frequency system," he says.

“空军的全球高频系统，”他说。

The most powerful shortwave communications system in the world.

世界上最强大的短波通信系统。

It enables jets over the Pacific to talk to jets over the Atlantic.

它使太平洋上空的喷气式飞机能够与大西洋上空的喷气式飞机通信。

"If you get lucky and tune one of the frequencies while it's active," Morpheus says, "you can often hear the roar of the plane engines in the background.

“如果你足够幸运，在其中一个频率处于活动状态时对其进行调谐，”莫菲斯说，“你经常可以在背景中听到飞机发动机的轰鸣声。

But you're not likely to understand what the pilots are saying to one another."

And what they do, instead of encrypting their signal, such that all you would hear is static, instead you can hear everything they say, but it's coded.

他们所做的不是加密他们的信号，这样你听到的都是静态的，而是你可以听到他们所说的一切，但它是经过编码的。

They'll say, "Joker one, joker one, we have a message." And then this code comes out like, "Bravo, Delta, Two, Niner, One, Charlie, Foxtrot." And you get the idea.

他们会说：“小丑一号，小丑一号，我们有一条消息。”然后这段代码就像“Bravo、Delta、Two、Niner、One、Charlie、Foxtrot”一样。你明白了。

What does it mean?

这是什么意思？

Morpheus Who knows?

墨菲斯谁知道？

That's why they encode it.

这就是他们对其进行编码的原因。

Make sure everybody safe and comfortable.

确保每个人都安全、舒适。

This thing's cold.

这东西很冷。

I haven't driven it all day.

我一整天都没有开车。

And just FYI, no, I don't drive like a psycho.

仅供参考，不，我开车不像个神经病。

It's dark now.

现在天黑了。

And we are, in Morpheus's words, "hot rodding American style" in one of his five cars, a black Monte Carlo, eight miles to the gallon.

We're call jumping.

我们叫跳跃。

That's the term for cruising with an onboard scanner, looking for action.

这是使用机载扫描仪巡航、寻找行动的术语。

Very quickly, we hear a promising squawk.

很快，我们就听到了一声充满希望的尖叫声。

There's a car in pursuit.

有一辆车在追赶。

Eastbound [UNINTELLIGIBLE] 104.

东行 [无法理解] 104。

We're stuck in a line of cars at a broken traffic light, and there's no way to turn around before we get through the intersection.

我们在坏掉的红绿灯前被困在车流中，在穿过十字路口之前没有办法掉头。

[UNINTELLIGIBLE] vehicle.

[无法辨认]车辆。

He is running without lights.

他在没有灯光的情况下奔跑。

We just have one occupant in it.

我们里面只有一个人。

Very light traffic.

交通非常畅通。

Finally, we make it through the light.

最后，我们终于穿过了光。

But before we can turn around and head in the right direction--

但在我们转身朝正确的方向前进之前——

They're listening for certain words, pursuit, structure fire, accident.

他们正在聆听某些词语，例如追击、结构火灾、事故。

But after an hour of driving, we've come up with nothing worth chasing.

但经过一个小时的车程，我们并没有发现任何值得追逐的东西。

We all get a little bored.

我们都有点无聊。

For fun, we scan some non-emergency frequencies.

为了好玩，我们扫描一些非紧急频率。

I want one Whopper, please.

我想要一份皇堡，谢谢。

Drive-thru Worker One Whopper?

得来速工人一号皇堡？

Over the course of a week, I meet a bunch of these guys.

They all notice antennas everywhere they go.

他们走到哪里都会注意到天线。

They all swap recordings like the one they played me, made with a scanner, of a madam at a Canadian escort service, taking orders and dispatching ladies over a cordless phone.

他们都交换了录音，就像他们给我播放的录音一样，是用扫描仪制作的，录音是加拿大一家陪护服务机构的一位女士通过无绳电话接受命令并派遣女士的录音。

And they all complain that the things they hear over the airwaves at night never make it on the news the next day.

他们都抱怨晚上在广播中听到的事情永远不会出现在第二天的新闻中。

I kept thinking that people with access to all this information would want to do something with it on either side of the law.

我一直认为，有权访问所有这些信息的人会想在法律的任何一方利用这些信息做一些事情。

Tracking police brutality or uncovering government scandals on the one hand.

一方面追踪警察的暴行或揭露政府丑闻。

Stealing credit card information or blackmailing philandering cellphone users on the other.

另一方面窃取信用卡信息或勒索花心的手机用户。

But they don't.

但他们没有。

They're not that choosy about what they listen to.

他们对听什么并不那么挑剔。

What's thrilling to them is the simple marvel that voices fill the air, pass through us all the time.

让他们兴奋的是一个简单的奇迹：声音充满空气，无时无刻不在我们身边。

I don't know.

我不知道。

I guess with all of these radio waves going through my body right now, I guess I feel like a radio sometimes.

我想现在所有这些无线电波都穿过我的身体，我想我有时感觉自己就像一台收音机。

You feel like a radio?

你感觉像收音机吗？

George Yeah.

乔治是的。

Well, we're all antennas.

好吧，我们都是天线。

And I guess I feel a true connection with these transmissions.

我想我感受到了与这些传输的真正联系。

I even enjoy just listening to an open carrier or just static, just static.

我什至喜欢只听开放的载体或只是静态的，只是静态的。

It's the essence of the wave.

这就是波浪的本质。

It's the pure energy of whatever it is.

无论它是什么，它都是纯粹的能量。

I don't know what it is.

我不知道那是什么。

It's a radio wave that possesses some sort of special power.

这是一种拥有某种特殊力量的无线电波。

At the end of our long night driving around, we stop for one last snack before heading home.

漫漫长夜结束后，我们停下来吃最后一顿小吃，然后回家。

We were just talking now, joking around, trading stories.

I've heard the guy in the Mir space station talk.

我听过和平号空间站里的那个人说话。

And when they've buzzed overhead, that's pretty wild even though, of course, it's all in Russian.

当它们在头顶上空盘旋时，那感觉相当疯狂，尽管当然，这一切都是俄语的。

You heard the guy on the Mir?

你听到和平号上那个人的声音了吗？

Male Friend In Car Yeah, sure have.

车里的男性朋友是的，当然有。

You can hear satellites anytime we hear day or night.

无论白天还是晚上，您随时都可以听到卫星信号。

They punch one up.

他们打了一个。

Morpheus That's a satellite.

墨菲斯那是一颗卫星。

[SOUND OF OBJECT RUSHING BY AND METALLIC SOUNDS]

[物体冲过的声音和金属声]

[UNINTELLIGIBLE PHRASE].

[难以理解的短语]。

That's what it sounds like.

听起来就是这样。

Like a weather satellite.

就像气象卫星一样。

And that's with an ordinary handheld scanner.

这是使用普通手持式扫描仪时的情况。

We pulled out of the parking lot.

我们把车开出了停车场。

Our Monte Carlo guzzled gas.

我们的蒙特卡洛消耗了大量汽油。

The streetlights lit the empty strip malls.

路灯照亮了空荡荡的商业街。

And from somewhere in the sky, too far away to see, a satellite played on our radio.

从天空中某个遥远的地方，我们的收音机里播放着一颗卫星的声音。

Alex Blumberg.

亚历克斯·布隆伯格。

[MUSIC - "TURN YOUR RADIO ON" BY ROY ACUFF]

[音乐 - “打开你的收音机”，作者：ROY ACUFF]

Act Two, More Powerful Than A Locomotive.

第二幕，比机车更强大。

Well, in putting together this week's show, we were all talking about the various invisible forces that are all around us, forces that we usually don't think about.

好吧，在整理本周的节目时，我们都在谈论我们周围的各种看不见的力量，这些力量是我们通常不会想到的。

And somebody brought up the idea that one of the most powerful forces in a room can be the thing that is unspoken between people.

有人提出这样的想法：房间里最强大的力量之一可能是人与人之间不言而喻的东西。

When there is a conversation and there's something that everyone is avoiding acknowledging, avoiding saying, everybody feels it, and you feel its presence with this intensity that is all the greater because the thing is unsaid.

当进行对话时，每个人都避免承认、避免说出某些事情，每个人都会感觉到它，并且你会感觉到它的存在，这种强度会更大，因为事情没有说出来。

The unsaid thing just kind of hovers there, obliterating all the things that are actually being said.

未说出口的事情就在那里徘徊，抹去了所有实际上正在说的事情。

It hangs there, immaterial, unspoken, exerting a dense emotional force field.

And we thought, in this program today where we're trying to make other invisible forces visible, let us make this one visible as well.

And to do that, we turned to five writers, asking each one for a story about some moment when they felt the presence of something unspoken.

为了做到这一点，我们求助于五位作家，要求每一位写一个关于他们感受到某种未言而喻的事物存在的某个时刻的故事。

I'm having some pain in my tooth, my upper right rear molar.

So I call a dentist, one I've never been to before, and he says I can come by at noon, that he'll take a late lunch.

When I get there, he tells me the tooth is dead.

当我到达那里时，他告诉我牙齿已经死了。

"It's going to need four root canals," he says.

“这将需要四个根管，”他说。

"I can do them in 45 minutes.

“我可以在 45 分钟内完成它们。

Some guys say they can do them in a half hour, but really, it takes 45 to get everything and do a good job.

有些人说他们可以在半小时内完成，但实际上，需要 45 小时才能完成所有工作并做好工作。

I'll order out for a burger and do it right now if you want." I say, yeah, OK, and ask him if he has any nitrous oxide.

He says he has some, but he doesn't usually use it.

"It takes a few minutes to set up," he says.

“设置需要几分钟，”他说。

"But if you're the squeamish type, I suppose we could pull the tanks out of the closet." Squeamish?

"But if you're the squeamish type, I suppose we could pull the tanks out of the closet."娇气？

Squeamish?

娇气？

This guy is going to drill four small holes one inch below my brain, and he's saying, I'm squeamish.

He's about my age, a little chubby, wearing expensive golf clothes and a gold necklace.

I want to tell him to [BLEEP] off, but I say, "Yeah, I want some gas." He tells his assistant, a young man, to set up the gas and then walks out to the front desk and asks his secretary to go get him an Arby's roast beef sandwich.

I want to tell him to [BLEEP] off, but I say, "Yeah, I want some gas."他告诉他的助手，一个年轻人，把煤气打开，然后走到前台，让他的秘书去给他买一份阿比烤牛肉三明治。

The kid straps on the mask, and I start taking slow, deep breaths, trying to fill every cubic inch of my lungs.

I start feeling it almost immediately, a subtle separation of mind and body.

The dentist comes back and shoots my jaw with Novocain and asks if I'm feeling the nitrous.

I lie and say, "No, not yet." He tells the kid to turn it up and starts to drill.

我撒谎说：“不，还没有。” He tells the kid to turn it up and starts to drill.

I inhale longer, deeper.

我吸气更长、更深。

I inhale and inhale, and it seems like I never exhale.

Nitrous oxide is amazing.

一氧化二氮是惊人的。

Nitrous oxide is my very good friend.

一氧化二氮是我的好朋友。

I hope to leave my body and float above the chair.

While he drills, the dentist talks with his young assistant.

He says, "So I hear you're leaving for South Carolina?" And the kid says, "Yeah, in a couple of weeks." At first, I think he's going away to college, but then the dentist says, "Well, say hello to President Benson for me.

He says, "So I hear you're leaving for South Carolina?"孩子说：“是的，几周后。” At first, I think he's going away to college, but then the dentist says, "Well, say hello to President Benson for me.

He's a great guy." And I realize then that they're both Mormons and that the kid is leaving to go on his mission.

他是一个很棒的人。” And I realize then that they're both Mormons and that the kid is leaving to go on his mission.

I live in Salt Lake City.

我住在盐湖城。

I grew up with Mormons.

我和摩门教徒一起长大。

All my Mormon friends went on missions.

我所有的摩门教朋友都去传教了。

I know the whole deal, how they take 19-year-old boys and screw them up for life.

When I was younger, I was more tolerant of their beliefs and practices, thinking that this is America and that the Mormons can believe whatever they want, including the notion that God promised this land to them and that they are his chosen people.

当我年轻的时候，我对他们的信仰和做法比较宽容，认为这是美国，摩门教徒可以相信他们想要的任何东西，包括上帝应许给他们这片土地以及他们是他的选民的观念。

But as I've gotten older, I've become less willing to put up with it.

I don't believe that their patriarch Joseph Smith was visited by an angel who showed him where some golden plates were buried in upstate New York.

我不相信他们的族长约瑟夫·史密斯被一位天使拜访，并向他展示了纽约州北部埋藏着一些金页片的地方。

I don't believe the plates were a record of a people written in reformed Egyptian hieroglyphics, which Joseph Smith then translated through the miraculous aid of a seer stone and a breastplate-type device he called the Urim and Thummim.

我不相信这些页片是用改革后的埃及象形文字书写的一个民族的记录，约瑟夫·史密斯随后通过占卜石和他称之为“乌陵”和“土明”的胸甲式装置的神奇帮助将其翻译出来。

And more than anything, I can't believe I'm letting a man who does believe in all of this drill small holes in my head.

There were no golden plates.

没有金盘子。

There were no golden plates.

没有金盘子。

There were no golden plates.

没有金盘子。

The dentist asked me, "How's that gas doing?

牙医问我：“气体怎么样？

Feeling no pain, huh?" And both he and his young assistant laugh at me.

没感觉疼吧？”他和他年轻的助手都嘲笑我。

I groan like it's not working.

我呻吟着，好像这不起作用。

And again, he tells the kid to turn it up.

他再次告诉孩子把音量调大。

I take a long, hard bong hit, and it's all settled now.

I know the dentist is a Mormon, and he knows I'm a druggie.

我知道牙医是摩门教徒，他也知道我是个吸毒者。

That even though we've just met, it's like we've known each other for 25 years since we went to different high schools together, back when he gave up masturbating in order to get into the celestial kingdom, back when I gave up all respect for authority and tried to leave town forever.

尽管我们才刚认识，但自从我们一起上不同的高中以来，我们已经认识了25年，当他为了进入天国而放弃手淫时，当我放弃对权威的所有尊重并试图永远离开小镇时。

He knows he doesn't like me, and I know I don't like him.

他知道他不喜欢我，我也知道我不喜欢他。

And we both know he's charging $1,000 an hour for his time, and that I will pay off the bill very slowly, finishing some time just before Jesus comes back.

我们都知道他每小时收取 1,000 美元的费用，而且我会非常缓慢地还清账单，在耶稣回来之前的某个时间完成。

A woman I once worked for came to Paris on vacation, and we went for lunch at a little restaurant around the corner from my apartment.

我曾经工作过的一位女士来巴黎度假，我们在我公寓附近的一家小餐馆吃午餐。

We'd just sat down when she cleared her throat saying, "I don't know if I ever told you this, but I really didn't think much of your last book." This came out of nowhere.

我们刚坐下，她清了清嗓子，说道：“我不知道我是否曾告诉过你这件事，但我真的对你的上一本书没有太多看法。”这不知从何而来。

It was as if she'd looked on the menu and read that the chef's suggestion was to tell someone what you really thought.

就好像她看了菜单并读到厨师的建议是告诉别人你的真实想法。

I one-upped her, saying that she couldn't have hated the book half as much as I did.

我夸奖了她，说她对这本书的厌恶程度不可能有我的一半。

And this set the tone for the rest of the afternoon, both of us agreeing that my life was decidedly second-rate.

这为下午剩下的时间定下了基调，我们都同意我的生活绝对是二流的。

After our lunch, we were standing in front of my apartment, her deciding that the building was unremarkable and me conceding that yes, it was.

午餐后，我们站在我的公寓前，她认为这座建筑不起眼，我也承认是的，确实如此。

We said goodbye, and then she lurched forward, subjecting me to a hug, which I really wasn't expecting at all.

我们道了再见，然后她向前倾身，拥抱了我，这真是我没想到的。

I never hug anyone if I can help it.

如果可以的话，我从不拥抱任何人。

To make things just that much more awkward, I was holding a lit cigarette that proceeded to burn a hole in her obviously new and first-rate jacket.

让事情变得更尴尬的是，我拿着一根点燃的香烟，结果在她显然是新的一流夹克上烧了一个洞。

We both knew what had happened.

我们都知道发生了什么事。

She caught me staring at the hole, and then she caught me deadening my gaze and pretending to be lost in thought.

她发现我盯着那个洞，然后她发现我目光呆滞，假装陷入沉思。

It was clearly my responsibility to acknowledge what had happened, to offer to pay for the coat, or at least to apologize.

显然，我有责任承认所发生的事情，主动提出支付外套费用，或者至少道歉。

I was close to cracking, and then I decided that, while it had been my cigarette, it had definitely not been my hug.

我快要崩溃了，然后我决定，虽然那是我的香烟，但绝对不是我的拥抱。

And so we stood there for what seemed like hours, one of us introducing a possible conclusion, and the other one rephrasing it.

就这样，我们在那里站了好几个小时，一个人介绍了一个可能的结论，另一个人则重新表述了它。

"Well, all right then." "OK." "So--" "Well--" "Golly." "Gosh." "Well, what do you know."

“嗯，那就好吧。” “好的。” “所以——”“嗯——”“天哪。” “天啊。” “嗯，你知道什么。”

"Still married?" I ask him on the way to lunch.

“还结婚了？”我在去吃午饭的路上问他。

"Unfortunately," he answers.

“不幸的是，”他回答道。

He laughs.

他笑了。

I laugh.

我笑了。

That's the only thing we say about it, his being married, me wishing he wasn't, the both of us wondering if this lunch is such a good idea considering the feeling we both get around each other.

这是我们对此唯一想说的，他结婚了，我希望他没有结婚，考虑到我们彼此相处的感觉，我们俩都想知道这次午餐是否是一个好主意。

I have an ulterior motive for this little get-together.

我这次小小的聚会是有不可告人的目的的。

My hope is that by the end of the lunch, I'll like him less.

我希望午餐结束时我会不再那么喜欢他。

We have a lot to talk about, a lot in common-- music, movies, history, books.

我们有很多话可聊，有很多共同点——音乐、电影、历史、书籍。

I avoid these topics and steer the conversation towards politics.

我回避这些话题，将话题转向政治。

He's a republican, and let's just say, I have an LBJ keychain in my pocket.

他是共和党人，这么说吧，我口袋里有一个 LBJ 钥匙扣。

Actually, he's a libertarian which, as near as I can tell, is just a republican who doesn't believe in God.

事实上，他是一个自由主义者，据我所知，他只是一个不相信上帝的共和党人。

He's really excited about the flat tax.

他对统一税感到非常兴奋。

The more he goes on about the flat tax, the more thrilled I feel because I loathe the flat tax.

他越是谈论统一税，我就越兴奋，因为我讨厌统一税。

I keep nodding along, "Uh-huh, uh-huh, really?"

我连连点头：“嗯嗯，真的吗？”

All the while, I'm telling myself, "See, I can't fall for a flat taxer.

我一直告诉自己，“看，我不能爱上统一纳税人。

The flat tax is about greed.

统一税是关于贪婪的。

I'm about civic duty, tax and spend, tax and spend." It works.

我关心的是公民义务、税收和支出、税收和支出。”有用。

For, what is less sexy than the mention of Steve Forbes?

因为，还有什么比提及史蒂夫·福布斯更不性感的呢？

I run through all the usual issues.

我解决了所有常见问题。

Unfortunately, we agree about abortion and gun control and education.

不幸的是，我们在堕胎、枪支管制和教育方面意见一致。

I start going soft, doddering on about assault rifles, all the while noticing his hand resting there on the table so near my own.

我开始变得软弱，老迈地谈论突击步枪，同时注意到他的手放在桌子上，离我的手很近。

It would be so easy, so quick to just reach for it-- his hand.

伸手去抓他的手是那么容易、那么快。

But there is that wedding ring on one of his fingers.

但他的一根手指上戴着结婚戒指。

I look up, stare deep into his eyes and say, "So you didn't happen to vote for Ross Perot, did you?"

我抬起头，深深地凝视着他的眼睛，说道：“所以你不会碰巧投票给罗斯·佩罗吧？”

My eight-year-old son found a wig in the garbage dumpster this morning.

我八岁的儿子今天早上在垃圾箱里发现了一顶假发。

I walked into the kitchen, highly irritated that I couldn't make a respectable knot in my green paisley tie.

我走进厨房，因为无法在绿色佩斯利领带上打一个像样的结而感到非常恼火。

And there he was at the table, eating cereal and reading the funnies, the wig pulled tightly over his head like a football helmet.

他坐在桌边，一边吃着麦片，一边读着搞笑漫画，假发紧紧地盖在头上，就像橄榄球头盔一样。

The wig was a dirty bush of curly blond hair, the kind you might see on a prostitute or someone who is trying to imitate Marilyn Monroe.

假发是一丛肮脏的金色卷发，你可能会在妓女或试图模仿玛丽莲·梦露的人身上看到这种假发。

I asked him where he got the wig, and he told me, his mouth full of cereal.

我问他假发是从哪里来的，他嘴里塞满了麦片，告诉了我。

When I advised him that we don't wear things that we find in the garbage, he simply continued eating and reading as if he didn't hear me.

当我建议他不要穿垃圾里找到的东西时，他只是继续吃饭和读书，好像没有听到我的声音。

I wanted him to take that wig off, but I couldn't ask him to do it.

我想让他把假发摘下来，但我不能要求他这么做。

I forgot all about my tie and going to work.

我忘记了领带和去上班的事。

I looked out the window where a mist fell slowly on the street.

我望向窗外，街道上缓缓飘落着一层薄雾。

I paced into the living room and back, trying not to look at my son.

我在客厅里踱来踱去，尽量不去看我的儿子。

He ignored me.

他不理我。

I could hear him munching cereal and rustling paper.

我能听到他咀嚼麦片的声音和纸张沙沙作响的声音。

There was a picture or a memory, real or imagined, that I couldn't get out of my mind.

有一幅画面或一段记忆，无论是真实的还是想象的，都无法从我的脑海中抹去。

Last spring, before the accident, my wife was sitting in the chair where now my son always sits.

去年春天，事故发生之前，我妻子坐在现在我儿子经常坐的椅子上。

She was reading the paper to see how the Blackhawks did the night before, and her sleep-mussed hair was only slightly longer and darker than the hair of my son's wig.

她正在看报纸，看看黑鹰队前一天晚上的表现，她那被睡眠打乱的头发只比我儿子的假发稍长、稍黑。

I wondered if my son had a similar picture in his head, or if he had a picture at all.

我想知道我儿子的脑海里是否也有类似的画面，或者他根本就没有画面。

I watched him, and he finally looked up at me, but his face was blank.

我看着他，他终于抬起头来看着我，但他的脸一片空白。

He went back to his reading.

他又继续看书了。

I walked around the table, picked him up, and held him against my chest.

我绕过桌子，把他抱起来，把他抱在胸前。

I pressed my nose into that wig, and it smelled not like the clean shampoo scent I might have been hoping for, but like old lettuce.

我把鼻子按在假发上，闻起来不像我所希望的干净的洗发水香味，而是像老生菜。

I suppose it didn't matter at that point.

我想当时这并不重要。

My son put his smooth arms around my neck, and for maybe a few seconds, we were together again, the three of us.

我儿子用光滑的手臂搂住我的脖子，大约有几秒钟，我们三个人又在一起了。

Before my grandmother died, she brought my sister Sally and me to a fortune teller in Chinatown who never made mistakes.

我祖母去世前，她带我和妹妹莎莉去唐人街找一位从来不犯错误的算命师。

My grandmother believed in fate.

我的祖母相信命运。

She believed that the twists and turns of our lives were mapped out at birth, as clear as pages from a book of standard plotlines.

她相信我们一生的曲折在出生时就已被规划出来，就像一本标准情节的书中的页面一样清晰。

I, on the other hand, was a rationalist and a skeptic.

另一方面，我是一个理性主义者和怀疑论者。

And Sally was simply distracted.

莎莉只是心烦意乱。

She was the beautiful one.

她是那个美丽的人。

She was getting married, and she had her own life.

她要结婚了，她有自己的生活。

The fortune teller was a tall Buddhist monk whose huge bald head startled me.

算命先生是一位身材高大的和尚，他巨大的光头吓了我一跳。

He studied my palm, pressed my hands, and peered into my face.

他研究我的手掌，按压我的手，凝视我的脸。

His eyes were shrewd and bright.

他的眼睛精明而明亮。

In that moment, I forgot I was a rationalist.

那一刻，我忘记了自己是一个理性主义者。

I wanted his opinion of me.

我想听听他对我的看法。

The fortune teller and my grandmother faced each other, talking rapidly, moving their hands.

算命先生和我的祖母面对面，一边移动着双手，一边快速地说着话。

They spoke in a Sichuan dialect I could not decipher.

他们说的是我听不懂的四川话。

My future floated through the air in inaccessible words.

我的未来以难以企及的言语飘浮在空中。

I waited for the translation.

我等着翻译。

Maybe I would learn who I would marry.

也许我会知道我会嫁给谁。

Maybe I would find out if I could pursue my ambition of becoming a writer.

也许我会看看我是否可以追求成为一名作家的抱负。

Finally, after several minutes, the monk turned back to me.

几分钟后，和尚终于转向我。

He said, in English, "You should eat more slowly.

他用英语说：“你应该吃得慢一点。

Eat less oil.

少吃油。

Exercise." Then he beckoned to my sister.

锻炼身体。”然后他向我妹妹招手。

I stood with my mouth open, furious, as he spoke to Sally.

当他对莎莉说话时，我张着嘴站着，愤怒极了。

Eat more slowly?

吃得慢一点吗？

Eat less grease?

少吃油脂？

Was I destined to die of heart failure?

我注定会死于心力衰竭吗？

The monk was holding out on me.

和尚一直拉着我。

The more I thought about it, the more I had to know.

我想得越多，我必须知道的就越多。

But my grandmother refused to talk.

但奶奶不肯说话。

She would ignore my questions and plant herself at the kitchen table, spreading hot pepper sauce on whole wheat toast and shaking her head.

她会忽略我的问题，坐在厨房的桌子上，在全麦吐司上涂上辣椒酱，然后摇摇头。

In the next few years, I could only pry from her a few vague pieces of information, and what I learned wasn't comforting.

接下来的几年里，我只能从她那里打探到一些模糊的信息，而我所了解到的并不能让我感到安慰。

She said I would have money and fame, but that my luck would not be steady.

她说我会有金钱和名誉，但我的运气不会稳定。

She especially wouldn't talk about Sally who had always been her favorite.

她尤其不会谈论她一直最喜欢的莎莉。

"She has peach blossom luck," she told me once.

“她有桃花运，”她有一次告诉我。

A few months later, my grandmother died.

几个月后，我的祖母去世了。

Since then, I've asked about peach blossom luck, but the explanations are never the same.

此后，我多次询问桃花运，但解释始终不一。

"Too much desired," someone once said.

“欲望太多”，有人曾经说过。

And I wondered what was wrong with that.

我想知道这有什么问题。

It's only recently, since my sister's divorce, that I've begun to see how complicated being desired is.

直到最近，自从我姐姐离婚后，我才开始明白被渴望是多么复杂。

Nowadays, I live a rational life.

如今，我过着理性的生活。

I write in the morning.

我早上写。

I meet my sister for lunch, and we talk about our relationships.

我和姐姐共进午餐，我们谈论了我们的关系。

We tell each other, we need to learn to let go, stop trying to control the outcome.

我们告诉彼此，我们需要学会放手，停止试图控制结果。

But in the back of my mind, I'm standing with Sally in the darkened room of a Chinatown temple, trying to piece together words in a dialect I can't understand.

但在我的内心深处，我和莎莉站在唐人街寺庙的黑暗房间里，试图用我听不懂的方言拼凑出单词。

I'm listening for the answers to our most important questions, answers that have joined the great catalog of things I'll never hear.

我正在倾听我们最重要问题的答案，这些答案已加入到我永远不会听到的伟大事物目录中。

I'm more like my grandmother than I thought.

我比我想象的更像我的祖母。

I believe those answers exist.

我相信这些答案是存在的。

They are our fate.

他们是我们的命运。

They are encoded in every word I write, in the swinging line of my sister's dress.

They hover in the room around us, waiting to be seen.

它们在我们周围的房间里盘旋，等待被发现。

In order of appearance, writers Scott Carrier, David Sedaris, Sarah Vowell, Brady Udall, and Lan Samantha Chang.

按出场顺序排列，作家斯科特·卡里尔、大卫·塞达里斯、莎拉·沃威尔、布雷迪·尤德尔和兰·萨曼莎·张。

[MUSIC - "YOU'LL NEVER KNOW" BY THE PLATTERS]

[音乐-拼盘乐队的“你永远不会知道”]

Coming up, scientists stumble on a problem they cannot solve.

接下来，科学家们偶然发现了一个他们无法解决的问题。

And the only thing they can think of is an act of pure faith.

他们唯一能想到的就是纯粹信仰的行为。

Somewhere, they decide, somewhere, there must exist an invisible particle, a tiny particle with no weight and no charge.

And then they go looking for it.

What they find, and other unlikely stories of how the world is put together in a minute from Public Radio International when our program continues.

当我们的节目继续进行时，他们发现了什么，以及其他关于世界如何在短短一分钟内组成的不太可能的故事。

It's This American Life.

这就是美国生活。

I'm Ira Glass.

我是艾拉·格拉斯。

Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme, invite a variety of people to tackle that theme.

当然，在我们的节目中，我们每周都会选择一个主题，邀请各种各样的人来解决这个主题。

Today's program, seeing the invisible world, stories of the unseen forces that affect our everyday life and what happens when we finally see them.

今天的节目，看到看不见的世界，影响我们日常生活的看不见的力量的故事，以及当我们最终看到它们时会发生什么。

We've arrived at Act Three of our program.

我们已经到了节目的第三幕了。

Act Three, Able To Leap Tall Buildings.

第三幕，能够跳跃高楼。

Well, my friend, I hold in my hand a stack of zines, self-published magazines.

好吧，我的朋友，我手里拿着一叠杂志，自行出版的杂志。

They are called Infiltration.

它们被称为渗透。

The subhead written underneath says, "The zine about going places you're not supposed to go." And people write into this zine from all over the world, mapping out their adventures prowling through construction sites, deserted buildings, steam tunnels under university campuses-- there's a big article here on UCLA-- subway tunnels, abandoned subway stations, drainage pipes, catacombs, plus-- if that were not enough-- the back hallways of hotels, hospitals, office buildings.

The subhead written underneath says, "The zine about going places you're not supposed to go."人们从世界各地写进这本杂志，描绘了他们在建筑工地、废弃建筑、大学校园下的蒸汽隧道中潜行的冒险经历——加州大学洛杉矶分校有一篇大文章——地铁隧道、废弃的地铁站、排水管、地下墓穴，再加上——如果这还不够的话——酒店、医院、办公楼的后走廊。

One article is on an abandoned missile silo in Roswell, New Mexico.

一篇文章介绍了新墨西哥州罗斯威尔的一个废弃导弹发射井。

The guy who puts the zine together does not give out his name publicly, but he did agree to an interview from his hometown in Toronto, where he has been sneaking behind the edges of the normal visible world for years.

制作这本杂志的人没有公开透露自己的名字，但他确实同意在家乡多伦多接受采访，多年来他一直潜伏在正常可见世界的边缘。

About three or four years ago, I had to stay in the hospital for several weeks one summer.

大约三四年前的一个夏天，我不得不在医院住几个星期。

And while I was confined to the hospital and wasn't allowed to leave, I got very, very bored.

当我被限制在医院里并且不被允许离开时，我感到非常非常无聊。

So I took to exploring the hospital.

Each night, I would walk around in my flimsy little bathrobe and my plastic slippers, and just see all the secret sites of the hospital.

每天晚上，我都会穿着薄薄的小浴袍和塑料拖鞋四处走动，看看医院的所有秘密地点。

And what sort of things would you find-- would you see when you walked around?

当你四处走动时，你会发现什么样的东西？

I found abandoned wings in the hospital.

Entire wings?

整个翅膀？

Zine Publisher Yeah.

杂志出版商是的。

So that was really fun.

所以这真的很有趣。

Got to explore all the rooms, and see where patients had been kept, and investigate all the wonderful tools they'd used to heal them.

And went down to the morgue and the engineering levels.

并深入到太平间和工程层面。

And managed to get up onto the roof at a few different places.

并设法在几个不同的地方爬上屋顶。

You devoted an entire issue of your zine, Infiltration, to this.

您在杂志《渗透》中专门讨论了这一点。

And at one point, on page 12, you have a diagram, four photos that's a sort of step-by-step instruction to the reader.

Over the photos, it says, "To visit F-wing's locked elevator room, go up this ladder." And there's a photo of the ladder.

照片上方写着：“要参观 F 翼上锁的电梯室，请走这个梯子。” And there's a photo of the ladder.

And then there's another photo.

"Climb through the door, out onto the roof." Shot of the roof.

"Climb through the door, out onto the roof."屋顶的镜头。

"Find this open window." Shot of the open window.

“找到这个打开的窗户。”打开的窗户的镜头。

"Lower yourself in and enjoy." And then there's a picture of the locked elevator room.

"Lower yourself in and enjoy."然后是一张上锁的电梯房间的照片。

Yeah, I was really proud of that one, because listening to the whirring and clanking behind that door was driving me mad, because it was always locked every time I checked.

是的，我真的为那扇门感到自豪，因为听到门后的呼呼声和叮当声让我发疯，因为每次我检查时门总是锁着的。

And eventually, I found a nice indirect route to get in there.

最终，我找到了一条很好的间接路线进入那里。

And that was quite a triumph.

And then once you lower yourself in and enjoy, what's it mean to enjoy that room?

Well, to savor it.

嗯，还是去品味一下吧。

You take the pictures, proving your conquest.

You get to understand what was behind all those sounds that you heard from the other side of the door.

你会明白从门的另一边听到的所有这些声音背后的原因。

In this case, it was sort an elevator room.

So I realized, a-ha, the reason for those random patterns of sound was people were summoning the elevator at different times.

所以我意识到，啊哈，这些随机声音模式的原因是人们在不同的时间召唤电梯。

And it was going up different numbers of floors and so on.

So it all made sense.

所以这一切都是有道理的。

It was very satisfying.

非常满意。

What do you know about this world that is invisible to most of us that the rest of us don't know?

对于这个我们大多数人看不见但其他人不知道的世界，你了解多少？

I don't think I understand it better than the average person.

我不认为我比一般人更能理解它。

Really, I'm just keenly aware of its presence and impressed by that.

真的，我只是敏锐地意识到它的存在并对此印象深刻。

Certainly, if there are interesting noises coming from somewhere, I'll pick up on it.

当然，如果从某个地方传来有趣的声音，我会注意到。

Or if I'm walking over a grate, I'll try to figure out what exactly I'm walking on top of.

或者，如果我走在格栅上，我会尝试弄清楚我到底走在什么上面。

I never think about grates as something to look down.

我从不认为格栅是值得俯视的东西。

Will you actually lift up a grate and lower yourself down the ladder to what's there?

你真的会举起一个格栅，然后从梯子上下来到那里吗？

Yeah, and that's usually pretty easy to do, at least here in Toronto.

是的，这通常很容易做到，至少在多伦多是这样。

It's not too tricky to find an unlocked one.

And there is usually a ladder.

What's down there?

下面有什么？

Zine Publisher The standard grates that I'm talking about will lead to a network of steam tunnels, which aren't usually accessible directly from the street.

Zine Publisher 我所说的标准炉排将通向蒸汽隧道网络，通常无法从街道直接进入。

They'll just lead to a little hot room with one or more locked doors at the bottom, usually locked.

他们只会通向一间炎热的小房间，底部有一扇或多扇锁着的门，通常是锁着的。

Have you seen the movie The Matrix by any chance?

Yes, I have.

是的，我有。

Ira Glass I was wondering if you felt a special relationship to that movie in some way, that notion of all of you are seeing this thing that's in front of you, but there's an entire world behind the scrim.

艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：我想知道你是否在某种程度上对那部电影有一种特殊的关系，即你们所有人都看到了眼前的这个东西，但在稀松布背后有一个完整的世界。

Yeah, I definitely identified very strongly.

It really is like that, because most people have no idea the extent to which they are being coddled and taken care of.

确实是这样，因为大多数人不知道自己被宠爱和照顾到什么程度。

The millions and millions of dollars and man hours that go into all the support systems that sustain them and make it possible for them to live in an urban environment.

数以百万计的美元和工时投入到所有支持系统中，以维持他们的生活并使他们能够在城市环境中生活。

Do you think the rest of us are missing something interesting and important by not seeing this world?

你认为我们其他人是否因为没有看到这个世界而错过了一些有趣和重要的事情？

Yeah, I really do think so.

I think that the secret part of a city is generally much more interesting than the open-to-the-public part.

我认为城市的秘密部分通常比向公众开放的部分有趣得多。

If you know what's going on under the streets-- you know there are another four levels of city underneath the one that you're walking on-- it really adds a lot to your understanding of the world you live in, I think.

如果你知道街道下面发生了什么——你知道在你行走的街道下面还有另外四层城市——我认为这确实会增加你对你所生活的世界的理解。

You said there are four levels underneath the street level?

你说街道下面有四层？

Oh well, that would probably apply to Toronto where there would be heating tunnels, gas lines, subway tunnels, and then stormwater drains.

哦，好吧，这可能适用于多伦多，那里会有供暖隧道、煤气管道、地铁隧道，然后是雨水排水沟。

In Chicago, there would probably be six levels.

In New York, there would probably be a good dozen, I would think.

我想，在纽约，可能会有十几个。

Is the thing that's the most interesting thing about this secret world the fact that it is secret?

If it were open for tours, it would not be that interesting.

如果它开放供游客游览，那就不会那么有趣了。

Now is it true that your devotion to exploring around is so thorough that sometimes you'll be on a date, and you'll see a doorway or whatever and abandon the date?

现在，你对周围探索的投入是如此彻底，以至于有时你会在约会时，你会看到门口或其他什么东西，然后放弃约会，这是真的吗？

That's not an uncommon occurrence for me to ask someone I'm out with to come with me or wait somewhere for me for 10 minutes.

对于我来说，邀请一起出去的人跟我一起去或者在某个地方等我 10 分钟的情况并不罕见。

I mean sometimes when you see a certain door that's open in a certain way, you know that you'd be missing a huge opportunity if you didn't check it out.

我的意思是，有时当你看到一扇门以某种方式打开时，你知道如果你不去看看，你就会错过一个巨大的机会。

Tell me about the most recent time when that's happened.

告诉我最近一次发生这种情况的情况。

That happened a month, month and a half ago, when I was just walking through a subway station and happened to be strolling down a main hallway in the station and noticed out of the corner of my eye that, off, down a hallway a little bit, there was a door open with some unpainted cement behind, which is usually a revealing sign that someone has accidentally left a door open.

那件事发生在一个半月前，当时我正走过一个地铁站，碰巧在车站的主走廊上漫步，我用眼角的余光注意到，在走廊的另一端，有一扇门开着，后面有一些未涂漆的水泥，这通常是一个明显的迹象，表明有人不小心把门开着。

So I said to the person I was with, "Will you come and check that out with me?" And she said, "No." So I said, "OK, well, just wait here 10 minutes." And I went through the door, found a tiny little freight elevator, took that down a few levels, wound up in a mechanical room, saw what it had to offer, found I couldn't go back out the same way that I came in, so I had to exit out to the street, and then pay my fare, and come back into the subway station again to meet up with her.

So I said to the person I was with, "Will you come and check that out with me?"她说：“不。” So I said, "OK, well, just wait here 10 minutes."我穿过门，找到了一个小小的货运电梯，下了几层，来到了一个机械室，看到了它所提供的东西，发现我无法按照进来时的原路返回，所以我不得不出去到街上，然后付钱，然后再次回到地铁站与她会合。

It sounds like it took more than 10 minutes.

It may have taken a little longer than 10 minutes, yes.

So when you're going to go out with somebody, is your motto kind of "bring a book?"

那么，当你要和某人出去时，你的座右铭是“带一本书吗？”

Yeah, well, the kind of people I would go out with would generally be armed with a book, I would say.

I think overcoming your own mental block against going somewhere you're not supposed to go is usually the biggest hurdle.

Most people seem to just have this instinct to stay on path, make sure they only go places they've been clearly told they're allowed to go.

They don't need to be told not to go.

他们不需要被告知不要去。

They actually specifically need to be told that they can enter a place before they will.

I've drawn the comparison before that fish farmers, they use these special underwater tanks that blow little tiny oxygen bubbles through tubes.

And the fish see a wall of oxygen bubbles, so they don't swim through that wall.

鱼看到一堵氧气泡墙，所以它们不会游过那堵墙。

The idea is that fish will perceive that there's a solid wall there.

And therefore, they'll all stay put.

因此，他们都会留在原地。

And I think that's the exact same reason why people stay confined to the designated public areas of a street level, rather than fully exploring their environment.

我认为这正是人们被限制在街道指定公共区域而不是充分探索他们的环境的原因。

They perceive walls that aren't there.

他们感知到不存在的墙壁。

The publisher of Infiltration, the zine about going places you're not supposed to go.

Their website has the easy-to-remember name www.infiltration.org.

Act Four, Look, Up In The Sky.

第四幕，看，在天空中。

Well, astrophysicists have come to believe that the universe is made up more of things that we cannot see-- dark matter, subatomic particles-- than things we can see.

好吧，天体物理学家开始相信，宇宙是由更多我们看不见的东西组成的——暗物质、亚原子粒子——而不是我们能看到的东西。

And one way to describe the process of science is that it chases after and names what is invisible to us.

Nancy Updike invites you to consider the case of one subatomic particle, the neutrino.

What you are sitting there right now not feeling yourself experiencing is the passage through your body, every second, of hundreds of neutrinos.

They are so small that, to a neutrino, your body is mostly the empty space between the atoms, space for it to move through at the speed of light.

它们是如此之小，以至于对于中微子来说，你的身体主要是原子之间的空白空间，是它以光速穿过的空间。

Now neutrinos are able to do this because they have no electric charge and practically no weight.

They are about 10 million times lighter than the smallest atomic particle.

No one has ever seen one.

没有人见过。

The most abundant natural source of neutrinos in this corner of the galaxy is the sun, which releases neutrinos during nuclear reactions at its core.

银河系这一角落最丰富的中微子天然来源是太阳，它在其核心的核反应过程中释放出中微子。

These neutrinos travel through space, unchanged, without stopping, forever.

And since they're unchanged, they're one of the few ways we have to figure out exactly what's going on at the sun's core.

So here's the equipment we, as a species, chose to use to try to confirm the existence of these delicate, elusive particles.

A solid rock chamber dug into a gold mine in South Dakota, a metal tank the size of a small ranch house, and, inside the tank, 100,000 gallons of--

在南达科他州的一个金矿中挖出了一个坚固的岩石房间，一个小牧场房屋大小的金属罐，罐内装有 100,000 加仑的——

Dry cleaning fluid.

干洗液。

Nancy Updike Yes, dry cleaning fluid.

南希·厄普代克是的，干洗液。

Because it's cheap, and because it contains chlorine.

Ray Davis is the chemist who designed this experiment, which is called Homestake.

He's been studying solar neutrinos for 30 years.

他研究太阳中微子已经有 30 年了。

The more liquid you have and the bigger the thing is, the more you capture in the tank.

Yes.

是的。

Nancy Updike Because you have to account for the fact that most neutrinos are just going to keep going and are not going to be stopped.

Yes, most of them don't interact at all.

是的，他们中的大多数根本不互动。

I mean they just go right through the tanks as if it wasn't there, and the liquid, the whole thing, and go out the mine the other way and go to Japan.

我的意思是，他们直接穿过储罐，就好像储罐不存在一样，还有液体，整个东西，然后从矿井以另一种方式流出，前往日本。

Now that's the way neutrinos are.

这就是中微子的样子。

Here's how it works.

这是它的工作原理。

The chlorine in dry cleaning fluid, when it's bombarded with neutrinos, produces atoms of a radioactive gas called argon-37.

当干洗液中的氯受到中微子轰击时，会产生一种名为 argon-37 的放射性气体原子。

And when you count up the argon-37 atoms you've collected in the tank, you know that for each argon atom, one neutrino passed through the tank.

当您计算在储罐中收集的氩 37 原子时，您就会知道，对于每个氩原子，都有一个中微子穿过储罐。

I know all of this because I've been obsessed with neutrinos ever since I first talked to Ray four years ago.

我知道这一切，因为自从四年前我第一次与雷交谈以来，我就一直对中微子着迷。

And I have to tell you that I am here as an advocate, a fan.

我必须告诉你，我是作为一名倡导者、一名粉丝来到这里的。

I don't just want you to understand neutrinos.

我不只是想让你了解中微子。

I want you to love them.

我希望你爱他们。

Consider their history.

考虑一下他们的历史。

Neutrinos weren't discovered so much as imagined as a bizarre answer to an especially thorny problem.

中微子的发现并不像想象的那样，而是对一个特别棘手的问题的奇怪答案。

In the early part of this century, scientists thought they understood pretty well the basic workings of the atom.

在本世纪初，科学家们认为他们非常了解原子的基本运作原理。

But when they measured the amount of energy atoms give off during radioactive decay, the numbers didn't come out right.

但当他们测量原子在放射性衰变过程中释放的能量时，结果并不正确。

Now, they could have concluded that perhaps our understanding of the atom was wrong, but they didn't.

They came up with something that, to a non-scientist, seems a lot crazier.

他们想出了一些对于非科学家来说似乎更疯狂的东西。

Wolfgang Pauli suggested that maybe something comes out you can't see.

沃尔夫冈·泡利表示，也许会出现一些你看不到的东西。

Wolfgang Pauli was exactly the sort of scientist who could say something like that with a straight face.

"Hey, maybe what's happening here is that a particle is coming out that we can't see, a special, secret, invisible particle." Since Pauli was smarter than almost everyone else, nobody told him he was nuts.

“嘿，也许这里发生的事情是一个我们看不到的粒子正在出现，一个特殊的、秘密的、看不见的粒子。” Since Pauli was smarter than almost everyone else, nobody told him he was nuts.

In fact, other scientists took his idea very seriously.

事实上，其他科学家非常认真地对待他的想法。

And Fermi-- Nancy Updike This is Enrico Fermi, a scientist.

费米——南希·厄普代克这是恩里科·费米，一位科学家。

Enrico Fermi.

恩里科·费米。

He'd developed a theory that would take this into account, and he called this "the neutrino," the little, neutral one.

他发展了一种将这一点考虑在内的理论，他称之为“中微子”，即微小的中性中微子。

He said, the particle is neutral, and it should be almost impossible to detect.

他说，这种粒子是中性的，应该几乎不可能被探测到。

And for many years, that was a real problem.

多年来，这一直是一个真正的问题。

This was the problem that Ray Davis started with as a young chemist after World War II.

这是二战后年轻化学家雷·戴维斯开始研究的问题。

He wanted to detect neutrinos.

他想探测中微子。

Since the lab where he worked had a nuclear reactor on site, and since neutrinos are continually emitted during nuclear reactions, he decided to start there with, of course, some dry cleaning fluid in a relatively small container, a 55-gallon drum.

由于他工作的实验室现场有一座核反应堆，而且核反应过程中会不断排放中微子，因此他决定首先在一个相对较小的容器（55 加仑的桶）中准备一些干洗液。

It didn't work.

它不起作用。

You have to have a more sensitive detector.

你必须有一个更灵敏的探测器。

And you have to go underground.

Underground, so that the earth would shield the experiment from other particles from space that kept confusing Ray's results.

Thus began Ray's seemingly counterintuitive plan to pursue one of the universe's most minuscule, ethereal particles by building bigger and bigger containers and moving them further and further underground.

由此，雷开始了看似违反直觉的计划，通过建造越来越大的容器并将它们移到越来越深的地下，来追寻宇宙中最微小、最飘渺的粒子之一。

Until finally, he was building a 100,000-gallon tank a mile underground.

Yeah, I'd love to see them.

是的，我很想见到他们。

Oh, that's the tank.

哦，那是坦克。

That's the tank.

那就是坦克。

Nancy Updike It looks like a huge vitamin capsule.

南希·厄普代克它看起来像一个巨大的维生素胶囊。

Yes, the engineers call that a horizontal blimp.

是的，工程师们称之为水平飞艇。

And it's a tank that's about 50 feet long and 20 feet in diameter.

这是一个长约 50 英尺、直径约 20 英尺的坦克。

Now these are the posts that--

现在这些帖子是——

Gosh, it's huge!

天哪，太大了！

There's a man standing there, and he--

Some man standing there.

有一个男人站在那里。

One of the great things about Homestake is that it was almost written off as a complete flop.

But over time, it proved itself right and changed forever the way we look at the sun.

Basically, Homestake challenged decades of accepted stellar evolution theory.

基本上，Homestake 挑战了几十年来公认的恒星演化理论。

Ray was supposed to register 10 neutrinos a day in his tank, and that number was based on careful calculations using everything scientists already knew about nuclear processes.

雷每天应该在他的储罐中记录 10 个中微子，这个数字是根据科学家对核过程已知的一切进行仔细计算得出的。

Instead, Ray saw only two neutrinos a day.

And his results never changed significantly.

他的结果从未发生过重大变化。

And no one could explain the problem of the missing neutrinos other than to tell Ray his experiment just wasn't working.

It wasn't until other neutrino detectors started being built in the 1980s that Ray's results were confirmed once and for all.

And scientists finally began to face the mess that neutrinos presented them with.

There's the science of things you can see and touch, surgeons studying the heart, Diane Fossey out there with the gorillas.

And there's the science of things you can't see.

还有一些你看不到的事物的科学。

When Ray started his neutrino experiments, the director of his lab tried to warn him off.

He only liked science he could see.

他只喜欢他能看到的科学。

A guy that works on things that are in the laboratory, hands-on, that do this and that, you know where you stand.

When you get up to the middle of the sun, you're kind of in deep water, and you do the best you can.

当你到达太阳的正中央时，你就像在深水里一样，你会尽力而为。

I'm on the other side of the argument from Ray's former boss.

I'm all for invisibility.

I think it imposes humility, and that's a good thing.

No one has ever seen a neutrino, no scientist, no fan.

In the face of neutrinos, we are all fumbling around in the middle of the sun, doing the best we can.

What we can't see rules us, love, God, neutrinos, radio.

But I think we want to be ruled.

We want God to be ineffable.

We want love to mysteriously endure after our physical presence is gone.

We want to know that neutrinos are moving through us and continuing on, unchanged forever.

Everything we can see has an explanation and an end.

And we don't want everything to end.

Nancy Updike.

南希·厄普代克。

Credits Ira Glass Well, our program was produced today by Alex Blumberg and myself with Susan Burton, Blue Chevigny, Julie Snyder, and Nancy Updike.

感谢 Ira Glass 嗯，我们的节目今天由 Alex Blumberg 和我本人以及 Susan Burton、Blue Chevigny、Julie Snyder 和 Nancy Updike 制作。

Contributing editors Paul Tough, Jack Hitt, Margie Rochlin, Alix Spiegel, and consigliere Sarah Vowell.

Production help from Todd Bachmann and Starlee Kine.

托德·巴赫曼 (Todd Bachmann) 和斯塔莉·凯恩 (Starlee Kine) 为制作提供帮助。

[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] To buy a cassette of this program, call us here at WBEZ in Chicago, 312-832-3380.

[鸣谢] 要购买该节目的磁带，请致电我们芝加哥的 WBEZ，电话：312-832-3380。

Or you can listen to most of our programs for free on the internet at our website www.thislife.org.

Thanks to Elizabeth Meister who runs the site.

感谢运营该网站的伊丽莎白·梅斯特 (Elizabeth Meister)。

This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.

《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。

[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Torey Malatia, who wishes to take a moment to send this message to his masters back in the Soviet Union.

[资金来源] WBEZ 管理由托里·马拉蒂亚 (Torey Malatia) 负责监督，他希望花点时间向他在苏联的主人传达这一信息。

Bravo, Delta, Two, Niner, One, Charlie, Foxtrot.

I'm Ira Glass.

我是艾拉·格拉斯。

Back next week with more stories of This American Life.

下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。

This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.

《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。

中文为机器翻译，仅供参考。