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Act One: Meet The Ball And Chain Ira Glass When Anne met Charles, they were not supposed to fall in love.
第一幕：认识球和链 Ira Glass 当安妮遇到查尔斯时，他们不应该坠入爱河。
It was forbidden that they fall in love.
他们相爱是被禁止的。
Capulets and Montagues, Jets and Sharks, David Addison and Mattie Hayes on Moonlighting, Scully and Mulder, Anna Karenina, you know the story.
《凯普莱特和蒙太古》、《喷气机和鲨鱼》、大卫·艾迪生和玛蒂·海耶斯的《兼职》、《斯卡利和穆德》、《安娜·卡列尼娜》，你都知道这个故事。
The day they met, she was a nurse in the Texas prisons.
他们见面的那天，她是德克萨斯州监狱的一名护士。
He was a prisoner, support service inmate.
他是一名囚犯，后勤服务囚犯。
First day on her new assignment, working in the infirmary.
接受新任务的第一天，在医务室工作。
They're called SSIs, which is a janitor service there.
它们被称为 SSI，这是那里的看门服务。
And there was four new ones came in that day.
那天有四个新人进来。
And they come bebopping down through the hall and started to the back of the infirmary.
他们飞快地穿过大厅，朝医务室后面走去。
And I ask them just where they thought they were going.
我问他们想去哪里。
He says, "Honey, you did take my head off a time or two that day." So that was the first time I'd ever seen him.
他说：“亲爱的，那天你确实把我的头拿下来了一两次。”所以那是我第一次见到他。
Was this the kind of thing where the first time you looked at him, you thought, "Huh, wonder who that is."
当你第一次看到他的时候，你会想：“哈，不知道他是谁。”
No, no. Ira Glass She'd see him around, mopping, clearing out trash.
不，不。艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：她会看到他到处拖地、清理垃圾。
And then, as always happens in these kinds of stories, fate threw them together, together in a situation where it was the two of them against the world.
然后，正如这类故事中经常发生的那样，命运将他们放在一起，让他们两个共同对抗世界。
We worked together for a couple of months and then got into a situation that involved some real sticky stuff that I'd really rather not get real specific about.
我们一起工作了几个月，然后陷入了一个涉及一些真正棘手的事情的情况，我真的不想具体说明。
But he told me some information about some stuff that had taken place while I was out of the infirmary one evening.
但他告诉了我一些有关一天晚上我离开医务室时发生的一些事情的信息。
By the time I got through facing off people, it brought a lot of heat on both of us.
当我与人对峙时，我们俩都感到很热。
And did the two of you actually blow the whistle on somebody in a way that officers got disciplined and punished?
你们两个真的向某人举报过，从而让警察受到纪律处分和惩罚吗？
We blew the whistle, yes.
我们吹哨了，是的。
The officer got a promotion instead of getting disciplined.
该官员没有受到纪律处分，而是升职了。
They basically totally isolated us both, because I took the word of an inmate over that of an officer.
他们基本上完全孤立了我们俩，因为我相信囚犯的话而不是军官的话。
And they don't like that.
他们不喜欢这样。
And nobody talked to the two of you?
没人和你们两个说话吗？
And so did that mean that you ended up having a lot of time alone with each other?
那么这是否意味着你们最终有很多单独相处的时间？
Well, it ended up being we were the only two to talk to.
好吧，最终我们是唯一可以交谈的两个人。
We talked to each other.
我们互相交谈。
And I really got to know what kind of a person that he was, and that he will stand up for truth when other people will skirt around it.
我真正了解了他是一个什么样的人，当其他人回避真理时，他会坚持真理。
But he will face what's coming down, just so that the truth comes out, at great personal risk to him.
但他将面对即将发生的事情，只是为了真相大白，这对他来说是巨大的个人风险。
Still, his crime?
仍然，他的罪行？
Anne Staggs He was in for murder.
安妮·斯塔格斯 他因谋杀罪入狱。
He killed a man that raped his niece.
他杀了一个强奸他侄女的人。
And he's been given 25 years for that.
他因此被判 25 年徒刑。
It's drilled in our head all the time.
它一直都在我们的脑海里。
Anyone that works there, it's drilled in your head that these people are out to con you.
任何在那里工作的人，都会在你的脑海中深深地意识到这些人是来欺骗你的。
They're going to pull something on you.
他们会向你施加一些压力。
They're going to blackmail you into doing something.
他们会勒索你做某事。
This is the prison system's way of looking at things.
这就是监狱系统看待事物的方式。
But not everyone that's inside the prison system is that way.
但并不是监狱系统内的每个人都是这样。
That was one of my major problems, is I could not understand, and I could not treat them like they were animals.
这是我的主要问题之一，我无法理解，也不能像动物一样对待他们。
I just couldn't do it.
我就是做不到。
Well, from WBEZ Chicago and Public Radio International, it's This American Life.
嗯，来自芝加哥 WBEZ 和国际公共广播电台，这就是《美国生活》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today in our program, for Valentine's Day, stories of forbidden love.
今天在我们的情人节节目中，讲述禁忌之爱的故事。
Act One, Meet the Ball and Chain.
第一幕，认识一下球和链条。
What happens when you fall in love with somebody who you're supposed to treat like an animal?
当你爱上一个你应该像动物一样对待的人时会发生什么？
Act Two, Mucho Corazon.
第二幕，穆乔·科拉松。
What happens when you fall for somebody that your country, your entire country, does not want you to live with?
当你爱上一个你的国家、你的整个国家不希望你与之生活在一起的人时，会发生什么？
Act Three, a story of impossible love to end all stories of impossible love, or 1,001 one of them, anyway.
第三幕，一个不可能的爱情故事，结束了所有不可能的爱情故事，或者至少是其中的 1,001 个故事。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Meet the Ball and Chain.
第一幕，认识一下球和链条。
When Anne Staggs started to fall for an inmate named Charles in the Texas prison system, she was up against odds as daunting as they ever get for two people.
当安妮·斯塔格斯开始爱上德克萨斯州监狱系统中一位名叫查尔斯的囚犯时，她面临着两个人所面临的最严峻的困难。
It was against the rules, possibly dangerous.
这是违反规则的，可能很危险。
Certainly, it could put her job on the line.
当然，这可能会危及她的工作。
They were never alone.
他们从来都不孤单。
They could never say anything in front of other people.
他们永远不能在别人面前说任何话。
And he was, not to put too fine a point on this, a convicted murderer.
毫不夸张地说，他是一名被定罪的杀人犯。
You know, in any relationship, there's some moment where somebody says to the other person, "I'm having these feelings." When was that moment between the two of you, and where did it happen?
你知道，在任何关系中，都会有某个时刻有人对对方说：“我有这些感觉。”你们两个之间的那一刻是什么时候，发生在哪里？
In the infirmary.
在医务室里。
I had been putting my medications on the computer, charting.
我一直把我的药物放在电脑上，绘制图表。
And he came in.
他进来了。
We'd been talking quite a bit that day.
那天我们聊了很多。
Anyway, he came in and said something to me.
不管怎样，他进来并对我说了一些话。
And I turned around and looked at him.
我转过身来看着他。
And I said, "I love you." And he looked me right square in the eye.
我说：“我爱你。”他直视着我的眼睛。
And he says, "No, you don't."
他说：“不，你不知道。”
And I told him, I said, "Don't you ever, ever tell me I don't love you." I said, "I didn't say I was in love with you.
我告诉他，我说，“你永远、永远不要告诉我我不爱你。”我说：“我没有说我爱你。
I said I loved you."
我说过我爱你。”
And it took him a while to accept that, because he was of the opinion at that time that he didn't think he was worthy of being loved.
他花了一段时间才接受这一点，因为当时他认为自己不值得被爱。
And about two days later, he came back and told me that he loved me, too.
大约两天后，他回来告诉我他也爱我。
I was sitting in the nurse's station with my head down, charting, when he walked in there.
当他走进护士站时，我正低着头坐在护士站里画图。
And I looked up and said, "Hi." And he looked at me.
我抬起头说：“嗨。”他看着我。
He said, "Hello." And I went back to charting.
他说：“你好。”然后我又回到了绘制图表。
And he said, "I love you." And I said, "Thank you."
他说：“我爱你。”我说：“谢谢。”
Wow.
哇。
How very businesslike.
多么有商务气息啊。
Anne Staggs Well, under the circumstances, with other people all around, it kind of had to be.
安妮·斯塔格斯 好吧，在这种情况下，周围还有其他人，这是必须的。
How much time was it between him saying that he loved you and you actually kissing?
从他说爱你到你们真正接吻之间间隔了多长时间？
About a month.
大约一个月。
Ira Glass And if you're willing, I mean, I don't mean to pry too much if you don't want to talk about this.
Ira Glass：如果你愿意的话，我的意思是，如果你不想谈论这个，我也不想打听太多。
But what were the circumstances of you actually kissing the first time?
但你们第一次真正接吻是在什么情况下呢？
At 5 o'clock every day, we give the insulin to the diabetics.
每天5点，我们给糖尿病患者注射胰岛素。
How romantic.
多么浪漫啊。
Anne Staggs No, that's not romantic.
安妮·斯塔格斯：不，那不浪漫。
And someone had stuck their size 14 foot right in the middle of the sheet on the gurney.
有人把 14 英尺的尺码贴在轮床上床单的中间。
And I mean there was a big footprint right there.
我的意思是那里有一个很大的足迹。
And I hollered at him and asked him to come change the sheet on the gurney.
我对他大喊并要求他来更换轮床上的床单。
And while he was changing the sheet on the gurney is when I took the opportunity to kiss him.
当他在轮床上换床单时，我趁机吻了他。
And I was the one that instigated it.
而我就是煽动这件事的人。
Was he surprised?
他很惊讶吗？
Anne Staggs Yes.
安妮·斯塔格斯 是的。
He seemed very surprised.
他似乎很惊讶。
So how'd it go?
那么进展如何呢？
Anne Staggs Wonderful.
安妮·斯塔格斯 太棒了。
Very, very, very sweet.
非常非常非常甜蜜。
I would love to be able to put my arms around him right now.
我很想现在就能用双臂拥抱他。
It progressed from there.
它从那里开始进展。
Other than the hugs and the kisses, there was never any other sexual activity, period.
除了拥抱和亲吻之外，从来没有任何其他性行为。
There just couldn't be.
不可能有。
That's just absolutely the way it was.
事情就是这样。
It just couldn't be.
这是不可能的。
It sounds like you were in a situation where there's no possibility of privacy at all.
听起来您所处的情况根本没有隐私可言。
If we got a minute to talk by ourselves, that was unusual.
如果我们有时间单独交谈，那就很不寻常。
When was the next turning point in your feelings?
你的感情下一个转折点是什么时候？
When did you understand that things had gone to another level?
你什么时候意识到事情已经发展到另一个层次了？
It was about the 1st of February.
那是大约2月1日。
We were standing in the exam room, talking about something.
我们站在考场里，谈论着什么。
He was cleaning and I was doing something else.
他在打扫卫生，我在做别的事。
And this blond guard walked in, who had never been in the infirmary unless she had to be, come in and asked for a cup of coffee.
这个金发警卫走了进来，她除非必要，否则从来没有去过医务室，进来要了一杯咖啡。
He always kept a big pot of coffee going in the back.
他总是在后面放一大壶咖啡。
And when he left the room with her to get her a cup of coffee, I could have just easily pulled her head off and told God she died.
当他和她一起离开房间去给她倒杯咖啡时，我本可以轻松地把她的头拉下来，告诉上帝她死了。
And that's when I realized I was in way over my head, and there was no denying the fact that I was in love with him.
就在那时我意识到我已经超出了我的能力范围，不可否认的是我爱上了他。
It had gotten to the point that I knew that we would eventually be discovered, simply because I really had a problem staying away from him.
我已经知道我们最终会被发现，只是因为我真的很难远离他。
And the security staff watches you like hawks.
保安人员像鹰一样监视着你。
So it was inevitable.
所以这是不可避免的。
Do you think it makes it more intense, the fact that your feelings were forbidden for each other?
你认为你们的感情彼此被禁止这一事实会让事情变得更加激烈吗？
Oh, definitely.
哦，当然。
You can talk to any woman or any inmate that has developed a relationship under the circumstances that ours was developed.
您可以与任何在我们的环境下建立了关系的女性或囚犯交谈。
And they will tell you beyond belief that the intensity of the relationship and the intensity of the feelings is far beyond anything that we've ever experienced before.
他们会令人难以置信地告诉你，这种关系的强度和感情的强度远远超出了我们以前经历过的任何事情。
I know several of the women that are married to inmates, and they'll tell you the same thing.
我认识几个与囚犯结婚的女人，她们也会告诉你同样的事情。
Now you've been married before too, yeah?
现在你也结过婚了，是吗？
Oh, yes.
哦是的。
I have discovered that I never knew what being in love was.
我发现我从来不知道什么是爱情。
Do you worry that your feelings are still idealized because you just haven't had the time to spend with each other alone?
你是否担心你们的感情仍然被理想化，因为你们只是没有时间单独相处？
To a point, yes.
在某种程度上，是的。
There's going to be a lot of adjustments to be done whenever we finally get to be together.
每当我们最终在一起时，都需要做很多调整。
And so what happened next?
那么接下来发生了什么？
Anne Staggs On February 23, a guard came in.
安妮·斯塔格斯 2 月 23 日，一名警卫进来了。
And he and I were standing back by the refrigerator fussing.
他和我站在冰箱旁边忙着。
He was getting ready to go back to his cell.
他正准备返回牢房。
And it was a few minutes until I got off work.
距离我下班还有几分钟。
And we were talking and cutting up.
我们一边聊天一边分手。
And she reported that she had caught us kissing, which she did not.
她报告说她发现我们接吻，但她没有。
That don't mean I hadn't kissed him.
这并不意味着我没有吻过他。
At that point, she did not catch us kissing, OK?
那时，她没有发现我们接吻，好吗？
And a little while later, after he went to his cell, the lieutenant brought him back to the infirmary to do his PHD physical, which was a Pre-Hearing Detention physical.
过了一会儿，在他回到牢房后，中尉带他回到医务室做他的博士体检，这是听证会前拘留体检。
Which means he's in big trouble.
这意味着他遇到了大麻烦。
And I asked him what they were bringing him down there for, and they said that he was under investigation.
我问他他们把他带到那里做什么，他们说他正在接受调查。
And I did his physical.
我给他做了身体检查。
And I kept telling him, I'm sorry.
我一直告诉他，我很抱歉。
I knew whenever she came in and looked at us the way she did that she was going to report us.
我知道每当她进来并以她那样的方式看着我们时，她就会举报我们。
And I kept telling him I was very sorry that it was coming down, because I knew that it was really going to be bad on him.
我一直告诉他，我对事情的发生感到非常抱歉，因为我知道这对他来说真的很糟糕。
Wait a second.
等一下。
Let me be sure I've got this right.
让我确定我做对了。
So he's about to get punished for kissing you and being close to you.
所以他会因为亲吻你和靠近你而受到惩罚。
And the first part of the punishment is that he's sent to you to be physically examined?
而惩罚的第一部分就是送你去体检？
Yes.
是的。
Ira Glass Does this not strike you as being kind of an odd thing, that he's about to be punished essentially for the two of you touching, and the first moment of the punishment is he's sent to you alone for you to--
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）：这难道不会让你觉得有点奇怪吗？他将因为你们两个的触摸而受到惩罚，而惩罚的第一个时刻就是他被单独派到你身边，让你——
Oh, he wasn't alone.
哦，他并不孤单。
The lieutenant was with him and sneering the whole time.
中尉一直陪在他身边，一直在冷笑。
Oh, OK.
哦，好吧。
Understood.
明白了。
Anne Staggs I was allowed to leave the unit that night.
安妮·斯塔格斯 那天晚上我被允许离开单位。
Then I was called back onto the unit about 10 o'clock the next morning.
然后第二天早上10点左右我被叫回单位。
And I spent a couple hours in interrogation with the internal affairs people.
我花了几个小时与内务人员进行审讯。
What'd they ask and what'd you tell them?
他们问了什么，你告诉他们什么？
There was a lot of questions.
有很多问题。
They ask about the sexual activity, which there was none.
他们询问有关性行为的情况，但没有得到答复。
They ask if I had been bringing contraband in to him, which there was none.
他们问我是否给他带来了违禁品，我没有。
They wanted me to tell them every sordid detail.
他们要我告诉他们每一个肮脏的细节。
And I was not real cooperative in that area.
我在那个领域并没有真正合作。
Do they even ask you about your feelings for him in that situation?
在那种情况下他们甚至会问你对他的感受吗？
Yes, they did.
是的，他们做到了。
Ira Glass They do.
艾拉·格拉斯 他们做到了。
How exactly do they ask?
他们到底是怎么问的？
Do they actually ask the question, "Do you love him?"
他们真的会问“你爱他吗？”这个问题。
Yes.
是的。
Ira Glass And did you admit to loving him?
艾拉·格拉斯 你承认爱他吗？
Yes.
是的。
Yes, and then they insisted that I write my resignation.
是的，然后他们坚持要我写辞职信。
Did you get a chance to say goodbye to him?
你有机会跟他说再见吗？
No. They gave him a year on medium custody.
不。他们给了他一年的中等监禁期。
And they put him in the fields to work.
他们让他到田里去干活。
Now when they were talking to him and interrogating him, internal affairs had told him that after it was all over with, and after everything calmed down, that he would be able to put me on his visiting list and I would be able to see him.
现在，当他们和他谈话、审问他的时候，内务部告诉他，等一切都结束了，一切平静下来之后，他就能把我列入他的探视名单，我就能见到他了。
He put me on his visiting list in September.
九月份他把我列入他的来访名单。
And my birthday's in October, so he wrote and told me that I could come see him the week after my birthday.
我的生日是十月，所以他写信告诉我，我可以在生日后一周来看他。
When I went in to see him, they would not let me see him at all.
当我进去见他时，他们根本不让我见他。
One of the officers there recognized me and told me that I could not visit with him.
那里的一名警官认出了我，并告诉我我不能和他一起探望。
They stopped him, gave him a major case.
他们拦住了他，给了他一个大案子。
And he started his one year over again in medium custody.
他又开始了在中等程度拘留中的一年。
So he was actually on medium custody for 19 months.
所以他实际上被中等拘留了 19 个月。
So you didn't even see him for a moment?
所以你根本就没有见过他吗？
No. No, they never let him out of the building to come to the visitation area.
不，不，他们从来没有让他走出大楼来到探视区。
What rule was he violating at that point?
他当时违反了什么规则？
You were no longer a prison employee.
你不再是监狱工作人员了。
One of the officers lied and said that they had given him a direct order for him not to put me on his visiting list.
其中一名警官撒谎说，他们已直接命令他不要将我列入他的探访名单。
They wrote him a major case on disobeying a direct order.
他们给他写了一封关于不服从直接命令的重大案件。
And my husband had never gotten a case before, had never been in any problems, no disciplinary problems before.
我丈夫以前从未接过案子，从未遇到过任何问题，也没有纪律问题。
And it still hurts my pride.
这仍然伤害了我的自尊心。
The next letter that I got from him, of course, he was really upset because they had stopped the visit.
当然，我收到他的下一封信时，他真的很沮丧，因为他们停止了访问。
And then in the very next letter, he asked me to marry him.
然后在下一封信中，他向我求婚。
He said he had wanted to do that at visitation.
他说他想在探视时这样做。
But since they are not going to let us visit, that he wanted me to marry him right then.
但由于他们不让我们参观，所以他希望我立即嫁给他。
And were you surprised?
你感到惊讶吗？
Anne Staggs Yes.
安妮·斯塔格斯 是的。
The fact is when I was reading the letter, I went to crying.
事实上，当我读到这封信时，我哭了。
I was very, very happy at that point.
那时我非常非常高兴。
And a girlfriend of mine who was already married to an inmate was there with me.
我的一个女朋友已经和一个囚犯结婚了，她也和我在一起。
And she kind of got upset, because she thought there was something else desperately wrong.
她有点心烦意乱，因为她认为还有其他事情严重不对劲。
Whenever I told her that he had asked me to marry him, she says, "Well, are you going on?" I said "Well, of course."
每当我告诉她他向我求婚时，她都会说：“好吧，你继续吗？”我说：“嗯，当然。”
How does it work?
它是如何运作的？
Does he basically just sign something, and you sign something, and then you're married?
他基本上只是签署一些东西，然后你签署一些东西，然后就结婚了？
No. He sent me what is called a proxy paper out, saying that he intentionally asked me to marry him, that he wants to marry me.
没有。他给我发了一个所谓的委托书，说他是故意向我求婚的，他要娶我。
And there's some other stuff on it.
而且上面还有一些其他的东西。
And then I have to take that and his identification papers and obtain the marriage license.
然后我必须拿着那个和他的身份证件并领取结婚证。
And you know that we got married right here on the radio station.
你知道我们就在广播电台结婚了。
And my deal about doing it that way is I wanted my husband present at our wedding.
我这样做的协议是我希望我的丈夫出席我们的婚礼。
And that was the only way that that was going to happen.
这是实现这一目标的唯一方法。
So then the marriage takes place on the Prison Show on KPFT in Houston.
于是，婚礼在休斯敦 KPFT 的监狱秀上举行。
And the host of the show, Ray Hill, stands in as proxy for Charles, who's still in his cell somewhere.
该节目的主持人雷·希尔（Ray Hill）作为查尔斯的代理人，而查尔斯仍然在牢房里的某个地方。
My name is [?
我的名字是 [？
M.
M。
O.
奥。
Johnson.
约翰逊.
?] I'm pastor at Rose of Sharon Baptist Church.
？] 我是沙龙玫瑰浸信会教堂的牧师。
And I am glad to be on this program to do this wedding.
我很高兴参加这个节目来举办这场婚礼。
I told Sister Anne that this is the right thing to do.
我告诉安妮修女这是正确的做法。
It was fantastic.
太棒了。
At that point in my life, you could not have told me that this was not the most beautiful cathedral in the city of Houston.
在我生命中的那个时刻，你不可能告诉我这不是休斯顿市最美丽的大教堂。
Well, now, let us start the ceremony.
好，现在，让我们开始仪式吧。
Brother Stagg, this is for you.
斯塔格弟兄，这是给你的。
Wilt thou have this woman to thy wedded wife, to live together after God's holy ordinance, in the holy state of matrimony?
你愿意娶这个女人为你的妻子，按照上帝的神圣法令，在神圣的婚姻状态中共同生活吗？
Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honor her, and keep her, in sickness and in health, for as long as ye both shall live?
无论疾病还是健康，你愿意爱她、安慰她、尊重她、守护她，直到你们还活着吗？
For Charles, by proxy, I do.
对于查尔斯，我代表代理这样做。
M.
M。
O.
奥。
Johnson Amen.
约翰逊阿门。
And what did you hear from your husband?
你从你丈夫那里听到了什么？
He wrote you and told you that he heard the wedding show.
他写信给你并告诉你他听到了婚礼表演。
Oh, yes.
哦是的。
Ira Glass What did he say about it?
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）对此有何评论？
He repeated his vows right along with Ray.
他和雷一起重复了他的誓言。
That's what he did when he was listening?
他听的时候就是这么做的吗？
Yes.
是的。
And he was as thrilled with it as I was.
他和我一样对此感到兴奋。
Now, Sister Anne, wilt thou have this man to thy wedded husband in the holy state of matrimony for as long as ye both shall live?
现在，安妮姐妹，您愿意在神圣的婚姻状态中与这个男人成为您的已婚丈夫吗？只要你们还活着，您愿意吗？
I do.
我愿意。
M.
M。
O.
奥。
Johnson Amen.
约翰逊阿门。
We will ask my brother to place this ring on Sister Anne's hand.
我们会请我哥哥将这枚戒指戴在安妮姐妹的手上。
And, my brother, you repeat this.
而且，我的兄弟，你重复一遍。
As a pledge--
作为誓言——
As a pledge-- M.
作为承诺——M.
O.
奥。
Johnson --and in token of these vows--
约翰逊——为了纪念这些誓言——
--between us made-- Ray Hill --between us made--
——我们之间做出的——雷·希尔——我们之间做出的——
It's such a strange thing to listen to, him taking the vow in proxy.
他代理发誓，听起来真是一件奇怪的事情。
It was.
是的。
M.
M。
O.
奥。
Johnson --the Holy Ghost.
约翰逊——圣灵。
Amen.
阿门。
Amen.
阿门。
M.
M。
O.
奥。
Johnson Amen.
约翰逊阿门。
Those whom God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.
神所结合的，人不可使他们分开。
Let us pray.
让我们祈祷吧。
[CHEERING] Ira Glass It's also strange to hear a wedding ceremony where there's nobody there to kiss at the end.
[欢呼] Ira Glass 听到婚礼结束时没有人亲吻也很奇怪。
That part kind of got me.
那部分有点吸引我。
But I'm going to make up for it when he comes home.
但等他回来我会弥补的。
I promise you.
我向你保证。
I just have a message for Charles.
我有话要给查尔斯。
Sweetheart, I love you very much.
亲爱的，我非常爱你。
I can't promise you that I'll be around for the rest of your life.
我不能向你保证我会陪你度过余生。
But I can promise you that I will love you for the rest of mine.
但我可以向你保证，我会用余生爱你。
And I just thank God that he brought us together.
我只是感谢上帝让我们走到一起。
Thank you.
谢谢。
Thank you, Anne.
谢谢你，安妮。
Ira Glass Are you worried that it's going to be different when he's out, and when you actually get a chance to be together?
Ira Glass：你是否担心当他出去时，当你们真正有机会在一起时，情况会有所不同？
Sometimes, the fear of the unknown.
有时候，是对未知的恐惧。
But I know that our love will overcome all of it.
但我知道我们的爱会克服这一切。
It's so strange.
太奇怪了。
It's a fear of the unknown with somebody who now you've been married to for quite a while.
这是对与你已经结婚有一段时间的人的未知的恐惧。
That's right.
这是正确的。
You've had an anniversary.
你们已经过了周年纪念日了。
The 5th of December, we were married one year.
12月5日，我们结婚一周年了。
And that's been one of the happiest years of my life.
那是我一生中最快乐的几年之一。
Even though they're married, Anne and Charles are still not allowed to see each other or speak on the telephone, because he's not been allowed to put her, still, on his official visitors list.
尽管他们结婚了，安妮和查尔斯仍然不被允许见面或打电话，因为他仍然不被允许将她列入他的官方访客名单。
At the time of our interview, he still had to serve between one and five years of his sentence.
在我们采访时，他仍需服刑一到五年。
[MUSIC - "CONCRETE AND BARBED WIRE" BY LUCINDA WILLIAMS]
[音乐 - 露辛达·威廉姆斯的《混凝土和铁丝网》]
Coming up, other stories to hopefully break your heart for this Valentine's Day, in a minute from Public Radio International, when our program continues.
当我们的节目继续进行时，国际公共广播电台将在这个情人节推出其他让您心碎的故事。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme, invite a variety of writers and performers to tackle that theme.
当然，我们每周的节目都会选择一个主题，邀请各种作家和表演者来解决这个主题。
Today's program, for Valentine's Day, impossible loves.
今天的节目，情人节，不可能的爱。
Stories of people kept apart who think that they should be together.
故事讲述了那些被分开却认为应该在一起的人的故事。
We have arrived at act two of our program.
我们已经进入了计划的第二幕。
Act Two, Mucho Corazon.
第二幕，穆乔·科拉松。
In any love story, there always has to be some thing, some moment, some device to bring the two people together.
在任何爱情故事中，总需要有一些事情、某个时刻、某种手段让两个人走到一起。
And this next story begins with a man in Amsterdam, Leon Perlee, and a woman in Cuba named Milades Sosa.
下一个故事始于阿姆斯特丹的男人 Leon Perlee 和古巴的女人 Milades Sosa。
And what brings them together from such different worlds is an instrument, a musical instrument.
而将他们从如此不同的世界聚集在一起的是一种乐器，一种乐器。
That's all it takes, my friend.
这就是所需要的一切，我的朋友。
The instrument in this particular case is a street organ, an antique street organ, big and made of wood.
这个特殊案例中的乐器是街头风琴，一种古董街头风琴，很大，用木头制成。
It doesn't have a keyboard or anything.
它没有键盘或任何东西。
You crank a handle and it works like a player piano, blowing air through holes in these long cardboard sheets.
你摇动手柄，它的工作原理就像自动钢琴一样，通过这些长纸板上的孔吹气。
Leon has a small workshop in Amsterdam where he restores these.
莱昂在阿姆斯特丹有一个小作坊，他在那里修复这些东西。
It's how he makes a living.
这就是他谋生的方式。
It has to be punched with holes in a certain pattern.
必须在其上打出一定图案的孔。
When a hole in the book passes over one of the keys, the key will jump up in the hole.
当书上的一个洞经过其中一把钥匙时，钥匙就会从洞里跳起来。
And the note in the organ, which is connected with this particular key, will start to sound.
与该特定键相关的风琴中的音符将开始发声。
And then the pipes will start to speak.
然后管道就会开始说话。
OK, let's start the organ.
好的，让我们开始演奏风琴吧。
In Europe today, these hand-cranked organs are ancient history.
在今天的欧洲，这些手摇风琴已经成为古老的历史。
But as it turns out, a century ago, these European machines crossed the Atlantic.
但事实证明，一个世纪前，这些欧洲机器跨越了大西洋。
And these days, in Cuba, a street organ factory is still in operation, a factory caught in a bubble in time, still turning out these instruments.
如今，在古巴，一家街头风琴工厂仍在运营，一家陷入时间泡沫的工厂，仍在生产这些乐器。
Naturally, Leon had to go see it for himself three years ago.
三年前，莱昂自然要亲自去看看。
So I was standing at Guarda la Vaca beach, white sands, blue sea, blue sky, people in swimming suits and bikinis.
所以我站在瓜尔达拉瓦卡海滩，白色的沙滩，蔚蓝的大海，蓝天，人们穿着泳衣和比基尼。
Yeah, it's very nice.
是的，这非常好。
And there was a big open-air tent.
还有一个很大的露天帐篷。
And there was an organ with a battery of percussions next to it, five people playing conga, bongo, timbales.
旁边有一个风琴，旁边有一组打击乐器，五个人在演奏康加鼓、邦戈鼓和廷巴鼓。
And people were so impressed by it because it was just like a real orchestra which was playing.
人们对它印象深刻，因为它就像一个真正的管弦乐队在演奏。
And it was marvelous.
这太棒了。
Well, my uncle, the one who works in the organ factory, told me that there was a group from Holland that was going to be at the factory.
嗯，我叔叔，在器官工厂工作的那个人，告诉我有一群来自荷兰的人要来工厂。
They were interested in organs.
他们对器官感兴趣。
And they were going to have a party for those persons.
他们将为这些人举办一个聚会。
He invited me to go there, but I was a little afraid.
他邀请我去那里，但我有点害怕。
I didn't dare to talk to any foreigner.
我不敢和任何外国人说话。
And then I think he said I could help translate.
然后我想他说我可以帮忙翻译。
And he insisted.
他坚持说。
And I didn't want to be unpolite.
我不想表现得不礼貌。
And I went with him to the factory.
我和他一起去了工厂。
I am sitting on a table with my uncle, having fun, drinking.
我和叔叔坐在一张桌子上，一边喝酒，一边玩乐。
And then all of a sudden, I see a big man, white skin.
然后突然，我看到一个高大的男人，皮肤白皙。
Ah, that look in his face, like a child.
啊，他脸上的表情就像个孩子。
I felt my heart start to beat faster.
我感觉我的心跳开始加快。
There came a man towards me.
有一个男人向我走来。
And he tried to start a conversation.
他试图开始谈话。
But he found out that my Spanish was just as good as his English.
但他发现我的西班牙语和他的英语一样好。
He asked me to wait.
他让我等一下。
And he came back with a young lady with sunglasses on, and it came out that she was his niece.
而他回来的时候，还带着一个戴着墨镜的小姐，一看就知道是他的侄女。
I took my glasses off.
我摘下了眼镜。
So I'm looking into his eyes.
所以我看着他的眼睛。
Something was happening in him.
他身上发生了一些事情。
It's the same that is happening inside me.
这和我内心发生的事情是一样的。
I could see it in his eyes.
我可以从他的眼睛里看到这一点。
From the first moment she took off her glasses, I felt like coming home.
从她摘下眼镜的那一刻起，我就有回家的感觉。
Everything fell in its place.
一切都各就各位了。
My soul was complete.
我的灵魂是完整的。
I just knew I was in love.
我只知道我恋爱了。
Milades Sosa We were talking.
米拉德斯·索萨 我们正在说话。
It was so nice talking.
聊得真好。
It was like if I had known him my whole life.
就好像我一生都认识他一样。
It was great.
太棒了。
I was forced to leave there, because we had to be on time at the airport.
我被迫离开那里，因为我们必须准时到达机场。
So I tried to extend the time of leaving as long as possible, but they were calling me [INAUDIBLE].
所以我试图尽可能延长离开的时间，但他们打电话给我[听不清]。
"Come on, Perlee, we have to go.
“走吧，珀利，我们得走了。
The airplane is waiting."
飞机正在等待。”
"Yeah, yeah, yeah.
“是啊，是啊，是啊。
It's okay.
没关系。
I'm coming."
我来了。”
Five minutes later, "Perlee, come on, now.
五分钟后，“Perlee，来吧，现在。
We have to go."
我们得走了。”
I saw the car leaving, and he was looking back and saying, "Goodbye."
我看到车子离开了，他回头说：“再见。”
I hoped she would write me.
我希望她会写信给我。
But it was still unexpected.
但还是出乎意料。
And I was happy about it.
我对此很高兴。
Because I hoped it was not just something which lasted one day, at least not from my feelings.
因为我希望这不仅仅是持续一天的事情，至少不是出于我的感受。
I was sure about my case, but of course, you never can look into the soul of another person.
我对自己的情况很确定，但当然，你永远无法洞察另一个人的灵魂。
"Cuba, August 31, 1995.
“古巴，1995 年 8 月 31 日。
Dear Perlee, first of all, my most sincere greetings for you and my wishes of prosperity.
亲爱的Perlee，首先，我向您致以最诚挚的问候，并祝愿您一切顺利。
Before beginning this letter, I will tell you that I have missed you as if I would have met you since my childhood.
在开始写这封信之前，我想告诉你，我很想念你，就像我从小就认识你一样。
Referring to me, I am 21 years old.
说到我，我今年21岁。
I study at the training teachers college.
我在师范学院学习。
So I will be a teacher soon.
所以我很快就会成为一名老师。
I enjoy dancing, reading, having new friends, traveling here in Cuba.
我喜欢跳舞、阅读、结交新朋友、在古巴旅行。
It will be very nice to hear about you and your country.
很高兴听到您和您的国家的情况。
I know that in spite of being a small country, it's nice.
我知道尽管是一个小国家，但它很好。
Besides that, there is produced a delicious butter.
除此之外，还生产出美味的黄油。
My friend, you are not going to believe that I keep the postcard you gave me in a place where I can take a glance at it every time.
我的朋友，你不会相信我把你给我的明信片放在我每次都能看一眼的地方。
It really brings good memories.
它确实带来了美好的回忆。
Take care of yourself and write soon.
照顾好自己，尽快写。
Kisses, sincerely, Milades."
真诚地亲吻，米拉德斯。”
So I hoped for it, and well-- this is something which you can touch.
所以我希望如此，嗯——这是你可以触摸的东西。
You can read it again.
你可以再读一遍。
That was one of the best moments in my life.
那是我一生中最美好的时刻之一。
"Dear Milades, thanks for the nice letter.
“亲爱的米拉德斯，谢谢你的来信。
I received your letter the 10th of October.
我于 10 月 10 日收到你的来信。
There is something on its way for you.
有件事正在为你而来。
Hope you like it.
希望你喜欢它。
Love and kisses, Leon."
爱和亲吻，莱昂。”
And when he said there is something on its way for you, he meant Mucho Corazon.
当他说有东西正在给你送来时，他指的是穆乔·科拉松 (Mucho Corazon)。
This is a music book he arranged with love for me.
这是他为我精心编排的音乐书。
And the first page, you can see how he dedicated, wrote for me, that is, "From Leon, with love." It was in September, '95.
而第一页，你可以看到他是如何奉献的，为我写的，那就是“来自莱昂，带着爱”。那是95年9月。
[UNINTELLIGIBLE]
[无法理解]
The rest is just a piece of cardboard full of holes.
剩下的只是一块布满洞的纸板。
He can't really take it.
他实在受不了。
And I didn't know what to do with it.
我不知道该怎么办。
I don't have an organ.
我没有器官。
I have to go to the factory.
我必须去工厂。
This is the tune.
这就是曲调。
[MUSIC - "MUCHO CORAZON" ON STREET ORGAN]
[音乐 - 街头风琴上的“MUCHO CORAZON”]
These are the words to "Mucho Corazon."
这是对“穆乔·科拉松”的话。
[SPEAKING SPANISH] Milades Sosa "I don't need a reason to love you, because my heart is so big."
[说西班牙语] Milades Sosa “我不需要理由爱你，因为我的心是如此之大。”
[MUSIC - "MUCHO CORAZON" ON STREET ORGAN]
[音乐 - 街头风琴上的“MUCHO CORAZON”]
"September 23, 1995.
“1995 年 9 月 23 日。
Dear Leon, it was so nice to learn that you have not forgotten me.
亲爱的莱昂，很高兴得知你没有忘记我。
In fact, I was afraid about it."
事实上，我对此感到害怕。”
"Amsterdam, 20 September, 1995.
“阿姆斯特丹，1995 年 9 月 20 日。
Dear Milades, before opening your letter, I had to calm down myself because my heart was beating like crazy.
亲爱的米拉德斯，在打开你的信之前，我必须让自己平静下来，因为我的心疯狂地跳动。
And as I read it, it gave me a very warm and good feeling inside."
当我读到它的时候，它给了我一种非常温暖和美好的感觉。”
"To be sincere, I have read it more than six times today.
“说实话，今天我已经读了六遍多了。
And now I decided to write back to you.
现在我决定给你回信。
Believing that you think of me, too, was one of the best things that could have happened to me."
相信你也想着我，是发生在我身上最好的事情之一。”
"Dear, dear, Milades, would you believe me as I told you that every night before I go to sleep, and in the mornings when I arise, I kiss your name on the letter?
“亲爱的，亲爱的，米拉德斯，我告诉你，每天晚上睡觉前和早上起床时，我都会亲吻信上你的名字，你会相信我吗？
So you have to write back very soon, because it's wearing out very rapidly."
所以你必须尽快回信，因为它很快就会磨损。”
"Can you imagine how I would feel if you came here again?
“你能想象如果你再次来到这里我会是什么感受吗？
Please, if possible, do it as soon as you can.
如果可能的话，请尽快完成。
It'll be great.
会很棒的。
Kisses, Milades."
亲吻一下，米拉德斯。”
[MUSIC - "MUCHO CORAZON" ON STREET ORGAN]
[音乐 - 街头风琴上的“MUCHO CORAZON”]
The second time I went to [INAUDIBLE] was December 1995.
我第二次去[听不清]是 1995 年 12 月。
I was scared because I didn't know what to expect from a man who lives in a developed country.
我很害怕，因为我不知道对一个生活在发达国家的人会发生什么。
I didn't know what he could expect from a girl from a small city in a poor country.
我不知道他对一个来自贫穷国家小城市的女孩能有什么期望。
I was really nervous.
我真的很紧张。
Milades Sosa We didn't know anything about each other.
米拉德斯·索萨：我们对彼此一无所知。
It was just some letters.
那只是一些字母。
It sounds stupid.
听起来很愚蠢。
But I was really nervous to meet her again.
但再次见到她我真的很紧张。
I walked towards them.
我朝他们走去。
And Milades, she laid her hands on the window.
而米拉德斯，她把手放在窗户上。
And I put my hands also against the window.
我也把手放在窗户上。
And I was laughing, because I have quite big hands, and her hands are rather small.
我笑了，因为我的手很大，而她的手很小。
It looked as if there was a baby hand laying in my hand.
看起来好像有一只婴儿的手放在我的手里。
He was taken.
他被带走了。
Oh, his body was taken.
哦，他的尸体被夺走了。
I could feel it when he took me in his arms.
当他把我抱在怀里时，我能感觉到。
I tried to give her a kiss in the taxi.
我试图在出租车上吻她。
But even that didn't work.
但即便如此也不起作用。
She was just like a shy bird.
她就像一只害羞的小鸟。
I was voiceless.
我无语了。
I couldn't say a word.
我一句话也说不出来。
He tried, but he was also nervous.
他尝试过，但他也很紧张。
They took me to my house.
他们带我到我家。
And I told my mother, "Oh, mama, I'm dying.
我告诉妈妈：“哦，妈妈，我快死了。
I don't know what's happening." It was something completely new.
我不知道发生了什么事。”这是全新的东西。
What I was feeling, since I met him, I couldn't explain it.
自从遇见他以来，我的感受我无法解释。
I couldn't sleep that night.
那天晚上我无法入睡。
And I was afraid also, because many girls were going out with foreigners for money.
我也很害怕，因为很多女孩为了钱而和外国人交往。
That was not my case, but I was afraid he and the rest of the people could think that.
我不是这样的，但我担心他和其他人会这么想。
At one particular night, we went out together, I think some drinks at some bars.
在一个特定的晚上，我们一起出去，我想是在一些酒吧喝了点酒。
We were going hand by hand, talking.
我们手拉着手，边走边聊天。
We had had a nice night.
我们度过了一个美好的夜晚。
There was a couple behind us.
我们后面有一对夫妇。
And it was a young man with a girl.
那是一个年轻男子和一个女孩。
And he said, "Tu [BLEEP] [BLEEP] conmigo?
他说：“你[BLEEP][BLEEP]朋友？
Yo compro." It's, have sex with him, and he will buy it.
哟，康普罗。”是的，和他发生性关系，他就会买下它。
I got quite angry about it.
我对此非常生气。
And I wanted to go after them.
我想追随他们。
But Milades was keeping me from doing that.
但米拉德斯阻止我这么做。
It's a problem of policy in the country.
这是国家政策的问题。
Every person thinks, when they see a girl with a foreigner, that she's a prostitute.
每个人看到一个女孩和外国人在一起时都会认为她是妓女。
The effect of the United States embargo in Cuba on people's daily life, it's hard at the moment.
美国对古巴的禁运对人们日常生活的影响，目前来说很困难。
It's very hard.
这很难。
Of course, income is very low.
当然，收入也是很低的。
And sometimes, people don't have to eat for one or more days.
有时，人们可以一天或多天不吃东西。
Girls, young girls, there are many who already have kids.
女孩，年轻女孩，很多人已经有了孩子。
And they don't have anything to give them for dinner.
而且他们没有任何东西可以给他们晚餐。
They use their body to earn money.
他们用自己的身体来赚钱。
At the university, when I started my relation with Leon, everybody knew about it.
在大学里，当我和莱昂开始交往时，每个人都知道了。
My classmates were saying that I shouldn't keep that relation, because people were saying that I was a prostitute, just because I had a relation with a foreigner.
我的同学说我不应该保持这种关系，因为人们说我是妓女，仅仅因为我与外国人发生了关系。
And then they changed towards me.
然后他们就转向我了。
It was like if I became someone else.
就像我变成了另一个人一样。
It was like if I was betraying my country.
这就像我背叛了我的国家。
I stayed there 'til the 29th of December.
我在那里呆到12月29日。
I was there two weeks.
我在那里呆了两周。
I still have the flight ticket.
我还留着机票。
And as the plane left, I had problems to keep my eyes dry.
当飞机离开时，我很难保持眼睛干燥。
These are words to the song, "Don't Leave Me Alone Again."
这是歌曲“别再让我一个人呆着”的歌词。
"If you knew how I suffer when you go away from me, if you knew how I only live thinking of you, you'd come back to me, my dear love, mi amor querida."
“如果你知道当你离开我时我是多么痛苦，如果你知道我是如何只想着你而活着，你就会回到我身边，我亲爱的爱人，我的爱。”
At that time, there was no light.
那时，没有光。
It was a very dark period of my life.
那是我一生中非常黑暗的时期。
And I couldn't stand to my promises that I would be there in February.
我无法兑现我会在二月份去那里的承诺。
Then I extended the promise to, I think, May.
然后我把这个承诺延伸给了梅。
And every time, yeah, I will be there.
是的，每次我都会在那里。
But every time, I had to excuse again because income was not that way that I could leave just like that.
但每次我都不得不再次借口，因为收入不足以让我就这样离开。
Most tourists who will go to Cuba are quite well-to-do, or have steady jobs with a steady income.
大多数去古巴的游客都比较富裕，或者有稳定的工作和稳定的收入。
And it's hard to explain that you can have many troubles.
而且很难解释你可能会遇到很多麻烦。
You have to take care about your company to save it from going under.
你必须关心你的公司，以免它破产。
Incomes were quite low.
收入相当低。
But I didn't know how to explain it to her.
但我不知道如何向她解释。
And I felt actually ashamed about it.
我对此感到非常羞愧。
I thought many things.
我想了很多事情。
I thought maybe he was just a tourist who came here to have fun.
我想他也许只是一个来这里游玩的游客。
I regret what I thought, but I thought that.
我很后悔我的想法，但我就是这么想的。
I didn't have any idea about his life or anything.
我对他的生活或其他事情一无所知。
What I had in mind was a European saying that he couldn't come.
我想到的是一个欧洲人说他不能来。
For me, they didn't have that kind of problems.
对我来说，他们没有这样的问题。
For me, it was like another world.
对我来说，这就像另一个世界。
And I thought, perhaps I am not what he needs.
我想，也许我不是他所需要的。
But at a certain moment, I felt so miserable.
但在某个时刻，我却感觉很痛苦。
And I didn't know what to write down anymore in my letters excusing myself about not being able to come over to Cuba and to be with her.
我不知道在信中该写些什么来为自己无法前往古巴和她在一起而辩解。
I was so depressed and so-- I don't know if it's self-pitying or whatever.
我很沮丧，所以——我不知道这是自怜还是什么。
But I wasn't able to cope completely with the situation.
但我无法完全应对这种情况。
And I didn't want to tell her about that, because I didn't want to make a bad impression.
我不想告诉她这件事，因为我不想给她留下不好的印象。
And I felt so miserable that, stupidly enough, I didn't write to her for about three months.
我感到非常痛苦，愚蠢的是，我大约三个月没有给她写信。
I said in my house, I don't want to listen to his name again.
我在家里说，我不想再听到他的名字了。
I don't want anything that has to do with him.
我不想和他有任何关系。
I'm too young to suffer this way.
我还太年轻，不能承受这样的痛苦。
I want to forget him.
我想忘记他。
"December 19, 1996.
“1996 年 12 月 19 日。
Dear Leon, hearing from you was a big surprise for me.
亲爱的莱昂，收到你的来信对我来说是一个很大的惊喜。
To tell you the truth, I thought you would never write again.
说实话，我以为你再也不会写信了。
Indeed, there have been no change in my feelings, although I had decided not to write to you again and to forget about our relation, because I have already cried too much because you do not write.
事实上，我的感情并没有改变，尽管我已经决定不再给你写信，并忘记我们的关系，因为我已经因为你不写信而哭得太多了。
"I, too, have tried not to think too much of you.
“我也努力不去想太多你。
But I fail because my heart was stronger and would ride over my soul."
但我失败了，因为我的心更坚强，可以超越我的灵魂。”
"Do you think you are the only one who have problems?
“你认为你是唯一有问题的人吗？
I have people saying whatever they want about me.
人们对我说任何他们想说的。
I have even to stand them saying that I am a stupid bitch because I still think of you."
我什至不得不忍受他们说我是个愚蠢的婊子，因为我仍然想着你。”
"I have not been able to sleep yet because of a painful, guilty conscience.
“由于痛苦和愧疚，我至今无法入睡。
What a terrible time you have had because of me."
你因为我而度过了多么糟糕的时光啊。”
"Remember that love is like a plant that needs to be watered every day.
“记住，爱就像一棵植物，需要每天浇水。
Lots of luck and happiness, and I suggest you to cheer up.
很多运气和幸福，我建议你振作起来。
This is not the end of life.
这不是生命的终结。
Milades.
米拉德斯.
If you think of coming before April, let me know it beforehand."
如果你想在四月之前来，请提前告诉我。”
"My dearest, dearest [UNINTELLIGIBLE]." He's so sweet.
“我最亲爱的，最亲爱的[无法辨认]。”他真是太可爱了。
"I miss so much your mouth, your words, your kisses, your big hands.
“我非常想念你的嘴，你的话语，你的吻，你的大手。
And in effect, I miss you all."
事实上，我想念你们所有人。”
It's crazy.
太疯狂了。
He even wrote from the plane.
他甚至在飞机上写信。
"Honey, you can tell to your mother that I'm loving you more than before."
“亲爱的，你可以告诉你妈妈，我比以前更爱你了。”
"I'll kiss you in [UNINTELLIGIBLE] hours.
“我会在[无法辨认]几个小时内吻你。
I'll love you forever."
我会永远爱你。”
I already decided to ask Milades to become my wife the first time I saw her.
当我第一次见到米拉德斯时，我就决定要她成为我的妻子。
But I didn't do so until I thought time was right for it.
但直到我认为时机成熟时我才这样做。
We were walking around the city.
我们在城里散步。
It was afternoon.
当时是下午。
We decided to sit down in Parque San Jose.
我们决定在圣何塞公园坐下来。
We were drinking Bavaria, a Dutch beer.
我们喝的是巴伐利亚啤酒，一种荷兰啤酒。
And we were just talking.
我们只是在说话。
At a certain moment, I said to her, "What would you think about the idea to be my wife?" And she said--
在某个时刻，我对她说：“你觉得做我妻子怎么样？”她说——
Of course.
当然。
I want to marry you.
我想嫁给你。
And I asked him, "Can you say it again?
我问他：“你能再说一遍吗？
Can you ask again?"
可以再问一下吗？”
And so I repeated my question.
所以我重复了我的问题。
I said, "Do you want to become my wife and live with me?" After she got back her breath, she said yes and started crying.
我说：“你愿意成为我的妻子，和我一起生活吗？”当她恢复呼吸后，她说是的，然后开始哭泣。
So I had to wait again for the rest of the answer.
所以我不得不再次等待其余的答案。
But I can tell that it was very encouraging what happened.
但我可以说发生的事情非常令人鼓舞。
And we kissed.
我们接吻了。
I was living in a cloud.
我生活在云端。
We were both, together, living in a cloud.
我们俩在一起，生活在云端。
That is impossible.
那是不可能的。
Holland is not an immigration country.
荷兰不是移民国家。
I invited her to come here in March last year.
去年三月我邀请她来这儿。
The request was denied by the authorities.
该请求被当局拒绝。
With the Cuban government, it's no problem.
对于古巴政府来说，这不是问题。
She has the permissions which she needs to leave the country.
她拥有离开该国所需的许可。
But here in Holland-- in fact, in Europe-- it's getting harder and harder every day to have permits for strangers who want to come in to the fortress of Europe.
但在荷兰——事实上，在欧洲——想要进入欧洲堡垒的陌生人获得许可证正变得越来越难。
My name is [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
我的名字是[无法辨认]。
I am second secretary in the Netherlands embassy here in Havana, Cuba.
我是荷兰驻古巴哈瓦那大使馆的二等秘书。
I am [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
我是[无法理解]。
And I am working at the Dutch Immigration Board.
我在荷兰移民局工作。
Well, in the Netherlands we have a restrictive admittance policy because we are just a small country.
嗯，在荷兰，我们有限制性的准入政策，因为我们只是一个小国家。
We don't have a lot of space and not enough jobs.
我们没有太多的空间，也没有足够的工作机会。
And that's why we are carrying out a restrictive policy.
这就是我们实施限制性政策的原因。
So we just look at the rules, and whether they are in love is not really a criterion.
所以我们只看规则，是否相爱并不是真正的标准。
Anyway, you can invite a Cuban person to the Netherlands if you comply with the requirements of the Dutch authorities.
无论如何，如果您遵守荷兰当局的要求，您可以邀请古巴人来荷兰。
It only costs you a lot of money.
它只会花费你很多钱。
The problem which I have to ask the authorities is that I can't show them on paper that I have a basic income.
我必须问当局的问题是我无法在纸上向他们证明我有基本收入。
When you are in love, you don't think about politics.
当你恋爱的时候，你不会考虑政治。
You think just like humans, without any borders, without authorities, because actually, every political system means a prison for people.
你就像人类一样思考，没有任何边界，没有权威，因为实际上，每一个政治制度都意味着人的监狱。
And for Milades in Cuba, she had a lot of problems because she couldn't get any job.
对于古巴的米拉德斯来说，她遇到了很多问题，因为她找不到工作。
And, well, she has been feeling quite miserable.
而且，嗯，她一直感觉很痛苦。
Here, there are rules.
在这里，有规则。
To work in certain places, you cannot have any kind of relation with foreigners.
在某些地方工作，你不能与外国人有任何关系。
I would like to work at the airport, for example, guide in foreigners.
我想在机场工作，例如，外国人导游。
And that's something I applied to do.
这就是我申请做的事情。
And I could do it.
我能做到。
I have many classmates who have gone to the airport to work.
我有很多同学都去机场上班了。
And they are there.
他们就在那里。
But if they find out I am with a foreigner, I cannot be there.
但如果他们发现我和外国人在一起，我就不能去那里。
It as if we become something dangerous.
就好像我们变成了危险的东西。
This was a present from him.
这是他送的礼物。
He brought it in December, when he came.
他在十二月来的时候带来了它。
It's a music box with the shape of an organ.
这是一个风琴形状的音乐盒。
It's a nice present.
这是一个很好的礼物。
I keep it with love.
我用爱来保存它。
And the tune, it's "Tulips from Amsterdam."
曲调是“来自阿姆斯特丹的郁金香”。
[MUSIC - "TULIPS FROM AMSTERDAM" ON MUSIC BOX]
[音乐 - 音乐盒上的“阿姆斯特丹郁金香”]
I love him.
我爱他。
He is everything to me.
他是我的一切。
And I know he loves me.
我知道他爱我。
I miss him a lot, every day, every minute, every second.
我非常想念他，每一天、每一分钟、每一秒。
And I will be patient now.
我现在会耐心等待。
We will wait.
我们会等待。
And we will be together.
我们会在一起。
I hope it's soon.
我希望很快。
[MUSIC - "I'LL BE HOME" BY THE FLAMINGOS]
[音乐 - 火烈鸟乐队的《我会回家》]
Act Three, Who Deserves What.
第三幕，谁应得的。
The story of The Arabian Nights is actually 350 or 400 stories, depending on how you count them.
《一千零一夜》的故事实际上有 350 或 400 个故事，具体取决于你如何计算。
Many of the stories are stories of impossible love, including the very last story in the whole epic tale, the story of Jasmine and Almond.
很多故事都是不可能的爱情故事，包括整个史诗故事的最后一个故事，茉莉花和杏仁的故事。
Mary Zimmerman is the Chicago director who adapted The Arabian Nights for the stage.
玛丽·齐默尔曼是一位芝加哥导演，她将《一千零一夜》改编成舞台剧。
There are two lovers who meet in a dream, actually.
事实上，有两个恋人在梦中相遇。
The girl has a dream of someone.
这个女孩有一个梦想，有一个人。
And at the same time, a prince in a faraway place-- he gives some milk to a dervish who asks him for some milk from a cow he's tending.
与此同时，远方的一位王子——他给了一位托钵僧一些牛奶，托钵僧向他要一些他所饲养的奶牛的牛奶。
And in gratitude for this, he describes this beautiful woman who's perfect for him, who happens to be the woman who had a dream of him.
出于感激之情，他描述了这个最适合他的美丽女人，她恰好是那个对他有梦想的女人。
So he goes to the other kingdom.
所以他去了另一个王国。
He wanders around.
他四处闲逛。
He's sort of in disguise.
他有点伪装。
He sort of looks like a shepherd, because he's actually out of his mind with grief, because he can't find her.
他看起来有点像牧羊人，因为他实际上因悲伤而失去了理智，因为他找不到她。
He's afraid he won't find her.
他害怕找不到她。
She similarly has fallen ill.
她同样也病了。
And all the doctors in the kingdom are coming in, trying to cure her.
王国里所有的医生都来了，试图治愈她。
But nothing will help, and she won't say what the matter is.
但没有任何帮助，她也不会说出到底是怎么回事。
And then one day, her maid comes to her and says, "There's a shepherd outside at our gates, and he looks like--" and he proceeds to describe him, which is exactly as how he appeared in her dream.
然后有一天，她的女仆来找她说：“我们家门口有一个牧羊人，他看起来像——”然后他开始描述他，这和他在她梦中出现的样子一模一样。
And so she runs to her father, who she's never asked anything from before, and begs him to hire this particular shepherd.
于是她跑到她的父亲面前，恳求他雇用这个特殊的牧羊人，而她以前从未向父亲提出过任何要求。
And he does.
他确实做到了。
And so things come about, they go about.
事情就这样发生、发生。
Now so far, it seems like we're heading on our way to a very happy story.
到目前为止，我们似乎正在走向一个非常快乐的故事。
Yeah, but things get in the way.
是的，但是事情会阻碍。
For one thing, he's disguised as a shepherd.
一方面，他伪装成牧羊人。
And she's a princess.
她是一位公主。
So there's a conflict already there.
所以冲突已经存在了。
She's supposed to stay behind the curtain of the harem, which she doesn't do.
她本该待在后宫幕后，但她却没有这么做。
And so one day, she decides to take lunch to him.
所以有一天，她决定请他吃午饭。
She pretends she's just taking lunch to all the shepherds, but she serves it on silver dishes.
她假装她只是给所有牧羊人送午餐，但实际上她是用银盘子盛的。
And her uncle sees this, her calamitous uncle, who's so full of hatred of the world that all he wants to do is ruin everyone's happiness.
而她的叔叔看到了这一点，她那个灾难性的叔叔，对这个世界充满了仇恨，只想毁掉大家的幸福。
And he always stops musicians from playing and stops people from being together, whatever else he can do, because he's so miserable himself.
他总是阻止音乐家演奏，阻止人们聚集在一起，无论他能做什么，因为他自己太痛苦了。
So he runs straight away to his brother, the father, and tells him about this.
于是他径直跑到他的兄弟，即父亲那里，告诉了他这件事。
And the girl gets into a world of trouble.
女孩陷入了一个充满麻烦的世界。
And she's sent behind the curtain of the harem again.
而她，又被打入后宫幕后。
And so they're going to actually marry her off to the son of the calamitous uncle, actually.
所以他们实际上要把她嫁给那个灾难性叔叔的儿子。
So I will read it.
所以我会读它。
"The desolate Almond, who had been clothed against her will in splendid robes and the gold ornaments of marriage, sat on an elegant couch of gold brocade, a flower upon a bed of flowers, silent as a lily, motionless as an idol.
“凄凉的阿蒙德违背自己的意愿，穿上了华丽的长袍，佩戴了结婚时的金饰，坐在一张优雅的金锦沙发上，花床上的一朵花，像百合花一样沉默，像偶像一样一动不动。
She seemed as one dead among the living.
她看起来就像是活人中的死者。
But Jasmine, who had come with the other servants to the bridal of his mistress, gave her hope to drink from a single glance of his eyes.
而茉莉，随着其他仆人一起来参加他情妇的婚礼，只要他的一个眼神，她就希望能喝一杯。
Surely the looks of lovers can say 20 things.
当然，恋人的外表可以说明20件事。
When night came, and the princess had been led to the marriage chamber, destiny turned a fortunate face to the lovers.
当夜幕降临，公主被领进洞房时，命运给这对恋人带来了一张幸运的脸。
Taking advantage of the little moment before her bridegroom should come to her, Almond glided from the chamber in her gold robes and fled to Jasmine.
趁着新郎即将来到自己身边的那一刻，阿蒙德穿着金色的长袍，从房间里滑出，逃到了茉莉的身边。
These two delightful children took hands and vanished, more lightly than the dew-wet breeze of morning.
这两个可爱的孩子牵着手消失了，比早晨露珠湿的微风还要轻柔。
Nothing has since been heard of them or their abiding place.
从那以后就再也没有听说过他们或他们的住所。
There are few upon this earth worthy of happiness, worthy to take the road which leads to happiness, worthy to draw near the house of happiness.
在这个地球上，很少有人值得拥有幸福，值得走上通向幸福的道路，值得接近幸福之家。
Mary, what do you make of the fact that there's this long, long plot that goes for pages and pages and pages, and then suddenly, they get to this moment.
玛丽，你怎么看待这样一个事实：有这么长很长的情节，一页又一页，然后突然，他们到达了这一刻。
And rather than invent something to happen, the narrator just has them vanish, just suddenly, poof, you know?
叙述者并没有发明要发生的事情，而是让它们突然消失，噗，你知道吗？
I guess it maybe demonstrates a kind of faith in the possibility of miracle, or the possibility that there is, in fact, destiny in who you love.
我想这可能表现出一种对奇迹可能性的信念，或者事实上，你所爱的人有命运的可能性。
And that that place that we're always torn between-- is this a random event that I've met this person?
而那个我们总是左右为难的地方——我遇到这个人是偶然的吗？
Or this is actually the person where it's written somewhere or told somewhere, in this case, is the other part of myself?
或者这实际上是在某处写下或在某处讲述的那个人，在这种情况下，是我自己的另一部分？
The ending of this story really manifests that longing that it is divine and that there is destiny.
这个故事的结局确实体现了对神圣和命运的渴望。
Mary Zimmerman teaches at Northwestern University.
玛丽·齐默尔曼在西北大学任教。
And let's close out this program with a moment from another story in The Arabian Nights, Aziz and Aziza, another story of impossible love.
让我们用《天方夜谭》中的另一个故事《阿齐兹和阿齐扎》来结束这个节目，这是另一个不可能的爱情故事。
He stands her up on their wedding day.
在他们的婚礼当天，他支持她。
After that, in her love for him, she helps him scheme to get another woman.
此后，她出于对他的爱，帮助他策划了另一个女人。
And then she dies for her love, dying with a poem.
然后她为自己的爱而死，带着一首诗死去。
She says things like, "Your careless head upon my heart lay nesting and dreamed another woman while I wept.
她这样说：“你粗心的头在我的心上筑巢，当我哭泣时，你梦见了另一个女人。
So dig my grave deep, and put these words above-- she fears not death, for she has known love."
所以，把我的坟墓深挖一下，把这些话放在上面——她不怕死，因为她懂得爱。”
Well, our program was produced today by Alix Spiegel, Julie Snyder, Nancy Updike, and me.
嗯，我们今天的节目是由阿利克斯·斯皮格尔、朱莉·斯奈德、南希·厄普代克和我制作的。
Contributing editors, Paul Tough, Jack Hitt, Margy Rochlin, and consigliere Sarah Vowell.
特约编辑 Paul Tough、Jack Hitt、Margy Rochlin 和顾问 Sarah Vowell。
Production help from Jorge Just, Sylvia Lemus, and Todd Bachmann.
Jorge Just、Sylvia Lemus 和 Todd Bachmann 为制作提供帮助。
[ACKNOWLEDGMENTS] Our story, Mucho Corazon, was produced by Chris Brookes and Michelle Ernsting for the World Views series of first-person narratives from Homeland Productions.
[致谢] 我们的故事《Mucho Corazon》由 Chris Brookes 和 Michelle Ernsting 为 Homeland Productions 的第一人称叙事世界观系列制作。
The editor was Sandy Tolan.
编辑是桑迪·托兰。
It was produced with funds from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and Radio Netherlands.
它是由荷兰公共广播和广播公司资助制作的。
If you'd like to buy a cassette of this program, call us here at WBEZ in Chicago, 312-832-3380.
如果您想购买该节目的磁带，请致电芝加哥的 WBEZ，电话：312-832-3380。
Or you can listen to most of our programs for free on the internet at our website, www.thislife.org.
或者，您可以在我们的网站 www.thislife.org 上免费收听我们的大部分节目。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight by Torey Malatia, who describes managing our show this way.
[资金来源] WBEZ 管理由 Torey Malatia 负责监督，他描述了如何以这种方式管理我们的节目。
The intensity of the relationship and the intensity of the feelings is far beyond anything that we've ever experienced before.
这种关系的强度和感情的强度远远超出了我们以前经历过的任何事情。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Anne Staggs They never let him out of the building to come to the visitation area.
安妮·斯塔格斯 他们从来不让他走出大楼来到探访区。
Back next week with more stories of This American Life .
下周我们将带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。