102: Road Trip! - This American Life
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Prologue: Prologue Ira Glass It's hard.
序言：序言 Ira Glass 这很难。
After "On the Road Again" and "Six Days On the Road" and "Hit the Road Jack" and "Roadrunner" and "Born to Run" and "Running on Empty" and "Life in the Fast Lane" and "Lost Highway" and "Highway One Revisited." After "Let's Get Away From it All." After Easy Rider and Thelma and Louise and Lost in America and too many road movies to name or even remember.
继《再次上路》、《在路上的六天》、《上路杰克》、《走鹃》、《天生会跑》、《空跑》、《快车道上的生活》、《失落的高速公路》和《重访一号公路》之后。在“让我们摆脱这一切”之后。继《逍遥骑士》、《塞尔玛与路易丝》、《迷失美国》之后，还有太多的公路电影叫不出来，甚至记不清。
After Jack Kerouac and Route 66.
继杰克·凯鲁亚克和 66 号公路之后。
And as long as we're at this, after Huck Finn and The Journals of Lewis and Clark.
只要我们还在读《哈克·芬恩》和《刘易斯与克拉克日记》之后。
After all that it is hard for an American to just hit the road without some expectations.
毕竟，对于一个美国人来说，不带任何期望就上路是很难的。
Take Jamie.
以杰米为例。
After his mother died, after three months of visiting her in the hospital and three years in which she'd been sick, he hit the road, in the car that used to be hers.
他母亲去世后，在医院探望了她三个月、她生病了三年之后，他开着她曾经的车上路了。
I kept trying to be, like, you know, what is the realization I'm going to come to?
我一直在努力想，你知道，我会得到什么认识？
Or what is the feeling that I'm going to settle on?
或者说我要安定下来的感觉是什么？
And that was what I kept feeling was, like, am I feeling something?
这就是我一直感觉到的，就像，我有感觉到什么吗？
Am I experiencing something?
我正在经历一些事情吗？
Really?
真的吗？
You felt like, OK, I'm on this big road trip.
你感觉，好吧，我正在进行这次长途旅行。
I'm supposed to have a revelation.
我应该有一个启示。
Yeah.
是的。
That's what I thought.
我就是这么想的。
You know, I was hoping that I would, yeah, be somewhere, I'd step out of the car and experience the grandeur of the place and just be like, yeah, this is what life is.
你知道，我希望我能，是的，在某个地方，我会走出汽车，体验那个地方的宏伟，然后就像，是的，这就是生活。
And this is, like, my mom dying.
这就像我妈妈快要死了一样。
And this is, like, where I am in my life.
这就是我生命中的处境。
And, you know.
而且，你知道。
But it didn't happen like that.
但事情并没有那样发生。
Any road trip is going to feel longer than you think it will.
任何公路旅行都会比您想象的要长。
And you'll be tired and you won't get a meal exactly when you're hungry.
当你饿的时候你会很累，而且你也吃不到饭。
You never find a bed exactly when you want to go to sleep.
当你想睡觉的时候，你永远找不到床。
And you're probably not going to find out what it is that you got on the road to find out in the first place.
而且你可能一开始就不会知道你在路上要发现的是什么。
And you know all that.
你知道这一切。
You know all that going into it.
你知道这一切。
And you still, we all still bind to the cliche about road trips.
而你，我们仍然遵守有关公路旅行的陈词滥调。
That what a road trip stands for is hope.
公路旅行代表的是希望。
Hope.
希望。
That somewhere, anywhere, is better than here.
那个地方，任何地方，都比这里好。
That somewhere on the road I will turn into the person that I want to be.
在路上的某个地方我会变成我想成为的人。
I'll turn into the person that I believe I could be, that I am.
我会成为我相信我能成为的人，我就是这样的人。
And, come Memorial Day, we hit the road.
到了阵亡将士纪念日，我们就上路了。
You and me and our whole great nation, with high hopes and no expectations for the future.
你我以及我们整个伟大的国家，对未来抱有厚望，但没有期待。
And, to hasten the journey, we bring you now this hour of radio.
而且，为了加快旅程，我们现在为您带来这一小时的广播。
Today, from WBEZ Chicago and Public Radio International it's This American Life.
今天，来自芝加哥 WBEZ 和国际公共广播电台的节目是《美国生活》。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Today's program, Road Trip.
今天的节目，公路旅行。
Act One, Busman's Holiday.
第一幕，巴士曼的假期。
Dishwasher Pete loved riding the bus from city to city until one last seven day trip that took him off the whole deal.
洗碗工皮特喜欢乘坐公交车从一个城市到另一个城市，直到最后一次七日旅行让他放弃了整个计划。
Act Two, Merci.
第二幕，谢谢。
How do you even say that?
你怎么说呢？
Mare-see?
马雷见？
Merci.
谢谢。
Can a road trip in Europe save a marriage?
欧洲公路旅行可以挽救婚姻吗？
The answer is with one case study.
答案来自一个案例研究。
Act Three, On the Road in a Tuxedo.
第三幕，穿着燕尾服在路上。
At the age of 92, comedian George Burns was still traveling all the time.
喜剧演员乔治·伯恩斯 (George Burns) 92 岁时仍然不停地旅行。
Margy Rochlin briefly traveled with him.
玛吉·罗克林与他一起短暂旅行。
What it is like when being on the road has been your job for decades.
几十年来，在路上的感觉一直是你的工作。
Act Four, Paw Paw for Jesus.
第四幕，爪爪为耶稣。
Cheryl Trykv achieves what everyone wants when they hit the road.
谢丽尔·特里克 (Cheryl Trykv) 在上路时实现了每个人都想要的目标。
She actually finds adventure, and it is not pretty.
她实际上找到了冒险，但这并不美好。
Stay with us.
留在我们身边。
Act One, Busman's Holiday.
第一幕，巴士曼的假期。
Regular listeners to our program may remember Dishwasher Pete who travels from state to state washing dishes and publishing his zine Dishwasher.
我们节目的常客可能还记得洗碗机皮特，他从一个州到另一个州洗碗并出版他的杂志《洗碗机》。
Usually he only stays in one place for a few weeks.
通常他只在一个地方呆几个星期。
And then he takes the Greyhound bus to the next town.
然后他乘坐灰狗巴士前往下一个城镇。
Lately he's been living in Portland.
最近他住在波特兰。
But he was only too happy to get back on the bus.
但他很高兴能回到公共汽车上。
I like riding Greyhound.
我喜欢骑灰狗。
Over the last eight years I figure I've ridden at least 100,000 miles on Greyhound.
在过去的八年里，我估计我已经乘坐灰狗巴士至少行驶了 100,000 英里。
In total, about four solid months of my life have been spent cooped up in their buses.
总共，我一生中大约整整四个月都是在他们的公共汽车上度过的。
I would consider it my home away from home, if only I had a home.
如果我有一个家，我会认为这是我的家外之家。
What I like most about Greyhound is how long it takes to get anywhere on the bus.
我最喜欢灰狗巴士的一点是乘坐巴士到达目的地需要多长时间。
Airline passengers love to complain about the five excruciatingly long hours it takes to fly from coast to coast.
航空公司乘客喜欢抱怨从一个海岸飞往另一个海岸需要五个小时的漫长时间。
But on the bus that same distance takes three full days to cover, which is what I think is about the perfect amount of time for such a trip.
但在公共汽车上，同样的距离需要三天才能走完，我认为这是一次旅行的最佳时间。
And unlike airplane flights, no movies are shown on Greyhound, no headsets handed out, no free magazines available.
与飞机航班不同的是，灰狗巴士上不放映电影，不分发耳机，也不提供免费杂志。
No waitresses force bags of peanuts on you every five minutes.
没有女服务员每五分钟就强迫你送几袋花生。
On the bus, passengers are largely left alone with their thoughts.
在公共汽车上，乘客基本上可以独自思考。
I have this theory about people who ride Greyhound.
我对乘坐灰狗的人有这样的理论。
About how, as we sit on the bus for hours and days, waiting to reach our destination, we travel in what I call a transitional state, thinking about where we're coming from and where we're going to.
关于当我们在公交车上坐上几个小时或几天，等待到达目的地时，我们如何在我所说的过渡状态中旅行，思考我们从哪里来，我们要去哪里。
I know I do.
我知道我知道。
And from my talking to other people on the bus, I know many others do as well.
从我在公交车上与其他人的交谈中，我知道许多其他人也这样做。
For example, this one route I've ridden a lot goes south through Crescent City, California, home of the Pelican Bay maximum security prison.
例如，我经常骑过的这条路线向南穿过加利福尼亚州新月城，那里是鹈鹕湾最高安全监狱的所在地。
I rode next to this guy who'd been locked away for 14 years and had just gotten out.
我骑在这个被关了14年、刚刚出来的家伙旁边。
Across the aisle from me was a teenager with a buzz cut on his way to boot camp.
我对面的过道是一个留着寸头的青少年，正在去新兵训练营的路上。
We talked for a while, but mostly we just sat and thought about the different places we were headed.
我们聊了一会儿，但大多数时候我们只是坐下来思考我们要去的不同地方。
For a long time I've been wanting to tape record the stories I've heard on the bus, to document this phenomenon that I've been trying to figure out.
很长一段时间以来，我一直想把在公交车上听到的故事录下来，记录下这个我一直想弄清楚的现象。
So I was pretty excited when This American Life offered to send me on a Greyhound trip with a fancy tape recorder and a seven-day Ameripass.
因此，当《This American Life》提出送我去一次灰狗旅行，并携带一台精美的录音机和一张 7 天的美国通票时，我感到非常兴奋。
For a week, I could wander any Greyhound route I chose and test my theory about the bus.
在一周的时间里，我可以漫步在我选择的任何灰狗路线上，并测试我对巴士的理论。
So I packed up a loaf of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and a bunch of bananas and stepped on a Greyhound.
于是我收拾了一条花生酱、果冻三明治和一串香蕉，骑上了灰狗犬。
I spent the first 10 hours traveling down the coast of Oregon.
前 10 个小时我沿着俄勒冈州海岸旅行。
I was so eager to talk with the other passengers I stayed awake all night even though everyone else was sleeping.
我非常渴望与其他乘客交谈，尽管其他人都在睡觉，但我整晚都没睡。
It wasn't until we stopped for breakfast in Crescent City that I was finally able to strike up a conversation.
直到我们在新月城停下来吃早餐时，我才终于能够开始交谈。
Steve was about 50 years old, sported a bushy beard and wore an olive green army jacket.
史蒂夫大约 50 岁，留着浓密的胡须，穿着一件橄榄绿的军夹克。
A large wooden crucifix dangled from his neck.
他的脖子上挂着一个巨大的木制十字架。
He said he was an itinerant preacher and that Greyhound was his chapel.
他说他是一位巡回传教士，灰狗教堂就是他的教堂。
Well, I just preach in my own time.
好吧，我只是在自己的时间传道。
Not any specific times.
没有具体时间。
And usually try to avoid audiences when I do speak because that way I reduce the possibilities of rejection or mockery.
当我演讲时，通常会尽量避开观众，因为这样可以减少拒绝或嘲笑的可能性。
[LAUGHS]
[笑]
You avoid audiences.
你避开观众。
Then who are you talking to?
那你在跟谁说话呢？
Well, see, I believe in the transmission of voice or spirit can transmit 360 degrees into the world times 360 degrees.
嗯，看吧，我相信声音或精神的传递可以360度传递到世界360度时代。
And Greyhound's conducive for your traveling ministry?
灰狗巴士对你的旅行事工有帮助吗？
Well, in the fact that I do not have my own privacy, like in a private vehicle, there becomes an either intermeshing or clashing of spirits like on a crowded-type Greyhound.
好吧，事实上，我没有自己的隐私，就像在私家车里一样，就像在拥挤的灰狗车上一样，精神上要么相互交织，要么相互冲突。
Sometimes things are more harmonious, and other times people pick and poke and they solicit a reaction.
有时事情会更和谐，有时人们会挑刺，征求反应。
So normally your preaching on the bus would come with you just talking to the person sitting next to you?
那么通常情况下，你在公共汽车上讲道时会与坐在你旁边的人交谈吗？
Most of my preaching is done by myself, just speaking into the air, though, without another human being being there.
我的大部分讲道都是由我自己完成的，只是对着空气说话，没有其他人在场。
You might be one of the first human beings that's ever really listened to me or acknowledged that in my presence.
你可能是第一批真正倾听我讲话或在我面前承认这一点的人之一。
Steve's ministry is not limited to the teachings of Christ but also included a healthy dose of praise for natural medicines, like cannabis and opium.
史蒂夫的事工不仅限于基督的教义，还包括对大麻和鸦片等天然药物的健康赞扬。
I thought I was agreeing with him when I said that it did seem ridiculous that pharmaceutical companies simply sold nature back to us.
当我说制药公司只是将自然卖回给我们这确实看起来很荒谬时，我以为我同意他的观点。
But Steve took offense and pulled out a bottle of Anbesol, which he described as 60% grain alcohol plus benzocaine.
但史蒂夫生气了，拿出一瓶 Anbesol，他称其为 60% 的谷物酒精加苯佐卡因。
Which is a chemical, as a chemical similar to the naturally occurring cocaine.
这是一种化学物质，与天然存在的可卡因类似。
And so if a person likes the cocaine--
所以如果一个人喜欢可卡因——
What's it for?
这是做什么用的？
Steve Well, it's just a little topical anesthetic which is like a local number.
史蒂夫：嗯，这只是一点局部麻醉剂，就像本地号码一样。
And so they talk about toothache and things of that nature.
所以他们谈论牙痛和类似的事情。
Certainly not a central nervous system relaxant like the opium poppy.
当然不是像罂粟那样的中枢神经系统松弛剂。
Which I consider more of a valuable plant.
我认为这是一种更有价值的植物。
Because of its pain relief but--
因为它可以缓解疼痛，但是——
Chug a lug.
突突一突。
Steve Just a little nip.
史蒂夫 只是一点点。
Just a little nip now.
现在只是一点点。
So is that numbing your whole mouth now?
那么现在你的整个嘴巴都麻木了吗？
Well, it takes about 10, 15 seconds.
嗯，大约需要 10、15 秒。
Actually, there is an immediate effect, but, yes, it is actually, believe it or not, numbing and very pleasant.
事实上，有立竿见影的效果，但是，是的，不管你信不信，它实际上是麻木的，而且非常令人愉快。
Steve continued talking, but it became increasingly difficult to understand what he was saying as his speech slurred.
史蒂夫继续说话，但随着他的言语含糊不清，越来越难以理解他在说什么。
By the end of our 15 minute talk he told me it was the longest conversation he had in the last three and a half years.
在我们 15 分钟的谈话结束时，他告诉我这是他过去三年半以来最长的一次谈话。
Then Steve got on the northbound bus bound for Portland and I continued on to San Francisco.
然后史蒂夫登上了开往波特兰的北行巴士，我继续前往旧金山。
From San Francisco I rode 10 hours to Los Angeles, sitting next to an 11-year-old kid that didn't want to talk to me.
我从旧金山骑了 10 个小时到达洛杉矶，旁边坐着一个 11 岁的孩子，他不想和我说话。
At the Hollywood bus station I saw a bus headed for San Francisco and figured, what the heck?
在好莱坞巴士站，我看到一辆开往旧金山的巴士，我想，这到底是怎么回事？
Maybe I'd get lucky on that bus.
也许我在那辆公共汽车上会很幸运。
So I spent the next 10 hours retracing my route back north, sitting beside a guy who slept the whole way.
于是，我在接下来的 10 个小时里沿着原路返回北方，坐在一个全程睡着的人旁边。
I had to wonder, where were all the talkers, all those chatty passengers that usually sit next to me and share their stories about where they're coming from or going to?
我不得不想，那些经常坐在我旁边、分享他们来自或要去哪里的故事的那些健谈者、那些健谈的乘客都在哪里？
In Reno I switched to a bus route I've always been curious about, the one that headed south through old mining towns down to Las Vegas.
在里诺，我换上了一条我一直好奇的巴士路线，这条路线向南穿过古老的矿业城镇，一直到拉斯维加斯。
My attempts to find out who rode that particular bus led nowhere.
我试图找出谁乘坐了那辆特定的公共汽车，但没有结果。
I approached the other half dozen passengers one by one.
我一一走近另外六名乘客。
But no one would talk to me.
但没有人愿意和我说话。
On the bus from Las Vegas to Flagstaff, Arizona, I asked the woman sitting next to me if I could record our conversation for the radio.
在从拉斯维加斯到亚利桑那州弗拉格斯塔夫的巴士上，我问坐在我旁边的女士是否可以将我们的谈话录下来用收音机。
She acted like I was nuts.
她表现得好像我疯了一样。
"You want to talk to me about Greyhound for the radio?
“你想和我谈谈电台的灰狗巴士吗？
What radio station is that?" "Well," I explained, "it's a show that's on different stations in different cities." "What station is it on in Los Angeles then?" she asked.
那是什么电台？” “嗯，”我解释道，“这是一个在不同城市的不同电视台播出的节目。” “那么洛杉矶哪个电台播出？”她问道。
"Los Angeles, I'm not sure." "You want to record me for the radio, and you don't even know what station it is?
“洛杉矶，我不确定。” “你想给我录广播，但你连那是什么电台都不知道？
Yeah, right," she's scoffed.
是啊，没错，”她嘲笑道。
"Give me a break."
“让我休息一下。”
She alerted the other passengers around us that I was trying to pull something over on her.
她提醒我们周围的其他乘客，我正试图把什么东西拦在她身上。
Soon I was verbally assaulted from all sides, the butt of everyone's jokes.
很快我就遭到了各方的谩骂，成为大家的笑柄。
I put the tape recorder away and stared out the window.
我把录音机收起来，凝视着窗外。
My enthusiasm for this trip was rapidly dwindling.
我对这次旅行的热情迅速消退。
At a rest stop I slinked away from the pack of passengers who were smoking their cigarettes and ridiculing me and stood off by myself.
在一个休息站，我从一群抽烟、嘲笑我的乘客身边溜走，独自站在一边。
Maybe I'd been wrong.
也许我错了。
Maybe there wasn't anything significant on the minds of Greyhound passengers after all.
也许灰狗乘客心里根本就没有什么重要的事情。
When the smoke break ended, I reluctantly got back on the bus.
烟雾结束后，我恋恋不舍地回到了车上。
On any bus there's usually some sort of outcast, like the drunk guy who smells like urine or the woman babbling to herself.
在任何公共汽车上通常都会有一些被遗弃的人，比如闻起来像尿味的醉汉或自言自语的女人。
Then it dawned on me.
然后我恍然大悟。
With these dorky headphones on my head, this foot long microphone in hand, trying to get people to let me interview them about where they're going, it was me.
我头上戴着这些愚蠢的耳机，手里拿着一英尺长的麦克风，试图让人们让我采访他们，了解他们要去哪里，这就是我。
I was the weirdo on this bus.
我是这辆公共汽车上的怪人。
Hello?
你好？
Well, I guess since nobody else will talk to me on this bus and there are only a couple people on this bus and we've got about nine more hours to go and it doesn't look like anybody else will be getting on the bus because we are in the middle of the desert.
好吧，我想，因为这辆公共汽车上没有其他人会和我说话，而且这辆公共汽车上只有几个人，而且我们还有大约九个小时的时间，而且看起来没有其他人会上公共汽车，因为我们在沙漠中间。
So I may as well talk to myself.
所以我不妨自言自语。
We are somewhere in the desert.
我们在沙漠的某个地方。
I can see we're traveling under a clear blue sky.
我可以看到我们正在晴朗的蓝天下旅行。
I can see about 30 miles.
我能看到大约30英里。
And a whole lot of dirt, rocks.
还有一大堆泥土、石头。
I guess I didn't have much more to say than anybody else on the bus.
我想我和公交车上的其他人没什么可说的。
Um-- Dishwasher Pete All these years I've boasted of being some sort of hardy Greyhound passenger, impervious to all those things that many people complain about.
嗯——洗碗机皮特 这些年来，我一直吹嘘自己是某种坚强的灰狗乘客，对许多人抱怨的所有事情都无动于衷。
The seemingly never ending rides, the annoying passengers, the claustrophobia.
看似永无止境的游乐设施、烦人的乘客、幽闭恐惧症。
I mean, I sat next to a guy vomiting on himself and it's no big deal.
我的意思是，我坐在一个正在呕吐的人旁边，这没什么大不了的。
I sat across the aisle from people having noisy sex and it didn't bother me.
我坐在过道对面，周围都是吵闹的性爱者，但这并没有打扰我。
But now, on this trip, Greyhound was starting to get to me.
但现在，在这次旅行中，灰狗开始接近我了。
On the bus to Phoenix, I found myself wedged between the window and a guy who took up way too much of my seat.
在去凤凰城的巴士上，我发现自己被夹在窗户和一个占据了我太多座位的人之间。
I tried to sleep for the first time in days but found that I couldn't.
几天来我第一次尝试入睡，但发现睡不着。
My whole body was sore.
我全身酸痛。
I had shooting pains in the back of my thighs.
我的大腿后部感到一阵刺痛。
My back ached.
我的背痛。
I had a headache.
我很头疼。
The baby in front of me cried the whole way.
前面的宝宝哭了一路。
The toddler behind me got smacked around for not sitting still after having been pumped up on candy.
我身后的小孩因为吃完糖果后没有静坐而被打了。
I was becoming increasingly claustrophobic.
我变得越来越幽闭恐惧症。
I was beginning to lose it.
我开始失去它。
Normally I survive long bus rides by concentrating on my destination, but now I didn't have a destination.
通常情况下，我通过集中注意力在目的地上来度过长途旅行，但现在我没有目的地。
I wasn't really going anywhere.
我其实哪儿也不去。
How could I expect to find anyone in the transitional state when I wasn't even in transition myself?
当我自己都没有处于过渡状态时，我怎么能指望找到处于过渡状态的人呢？
Maybe this was the problem with the whole mission.
也许这就是整个任务的问题。
I had ceased being a regular Greyhound passenger.
我不再是灰狗巴士的常客了。
I was an outsider.
我是一个局外人。
I stood in line for the bus to Las Cruces, New Mexico, trying to calm down.
我排队等候前往新墨西哥州拉斯克鲁塞斯的巴士，试图让自己平静下来。
I thought I was in control until I watched a mother drag her kicking and crying toddler across the bus station by the kid's hair.
我以为我已经控制住了，直到我看到一位母亲揪着孩子的头发，拖着她又踢又哭的孩子穿过公交车站。
I snapped.
我厉声说道。
I couldn't take it.
我无法接受。
I couldn't handle being constantly surrounded by so many people anymore.
我再也无法忍受一直被这么多人包围了。
I sure wasn't feeling at home like I usually do.
我确实不像平时那样有宾至如归的感觉。
I stepped out of line for the Las Cruces bus.
我在乘坐拉斯克鲁塞斯巴士时插队。
I had to get home.
我必须回家。
Sadly, Portland was still a 36-hour ride away.
遗憾的是，距离波特兰还有 36 小时车程。
At the Arizona-California border, a new passenger sat down across the aisle from me.
在亚利桑那州和加利福尼亚州边境，一位新乘客坐在我对面的过道上。
Not needing any more abuse from strangers, I resisted my initial temptation to talk with her.
由于不再需要陌生人的辱骂，我抵制住了最初与她交谈的诱惑。
A couple miles down the road I watched her pull a Polaroid photo from her purse, stare at it for a half minute, and then tuck it back in her purse.
沿着路走了几英里，我看到她从钱包里拿出一张宝丽来照片，盯着它看了半分钟，然后把它放回钱包里。
A minute later she had the photo out again and this time I snuck a peek and saw that it was a photo of her sitting in the lap of a guy wearing prison garb.
一分钟后，她又把照片拿出来，这次我偷偷看了一眼，发现那是一张她坐在一个穿着囚服的男人腿上的照片。
Since she had boarded the bus in a prison town, I realized she had probably just visited a jailed boyfriend or husband.
由于她在监狱小镇登上了公共汽车，我意识到她可能刚刚拜访了一位被监禁的男朋友或丈夫。
Now she had to sit on the bus for who knows how many hours and dwell upon the person she had just left.
现在她不得不在公交车上坐上不知道多少小时，想着刚刚离开的人。
At last, I thought, the one person I had been looking for on this whole trip.
我想，这趟旅程我一直在寻找的人终于来了。
Someone in transition.
处于转型期的某人。
Someone who could help me prove my theory about the bus.
有人可以帮助我证明我关于公共汽车的理论。
Her name was Lisa.
她的名字叫丽莎。
And she was just as suspicious of me as any other passenger had been.
她和其他乘客一样对我产生怀疑。
But she did consent to let our conversation be recorded.
但她确实同意让我们的谈话被录音。
The conversation didn't get very far.
谈话并没有进行太远。
She gave only one or two word replies to most of my questions.
对于我的大多数问题，她只给出了一两个字的答复。
Eventually she ended up asking me the majority of the questions.
最终她问了我大部分问题。
After a couple of awkward minutes, I put the microphone and tape recorder away.
尴尬的几分钟后，我把麦克风和录音机收了起来。
She stared at her photograph some more while I watched the desert in the fading sunlight.
当我看着夕阳下的沙漠时，她又盯着她的照片看了一会儿。
A half hour later, after the bus had darkened and people dozed off, Lisa tapped me on the arm and told me she had inherited powers from her grandmother.
半小时后，巴士变暗，人们都打瞌睡后，丽莎拍拍我的手臂，告诉我她继承了祖母的力量。
Powers with which she could grant me any wish I desired.
她有能力实现我想要的任何愿望。
For this service she would only charge me $5.00.
对于这项服务，她只向我收取 5 美元。
"At my shop," she said, "usually I charge $10, uh, $20 for a wish." She said it just like that.
“在我的店里，”她说，“通常我一个愿望要收费 10 美元，呃，20 美元。”她就这么说了。
"$10, uh, $20."
“10 美元，呃，20 美元。”
Well, $5 for a wish seemed like a bargain so I started counting up the hundreds of nickles I had won in a Las Vegas slot machine.
好吧，5 美元的愿望似乎很便宜，所以我开始数我在拉斯维加斯老虎机上赢得的数百个镍币。
But she said it would only work with a $5 bill.
但她表示，这只适用于 5 美元的钞票。
I didn't have any fives, but I did have a 10.
我没有五分，但我有十分。
"A 10 will work," she said.
“10 就可以了，”她说。
I followed her instructions, folding the bill into a little ball and handed it to her.
我按照她的指示，把钞票折成一个小球递给她。
She squeezed it in her fist and said, "Now make a wish.
她把它握在拳头里，说道：“现在许个愿吧。”
But you can't tell anyone what it is." So I made a wish.
但你不能告诉任何人那是什么。”于是我许了一个愿。
Then she told me to tell her my second and third wishes.
然后她让我告诉她我的第二个和第三个愿望。
That these wishes were important, too, but not as important as the super important first wish.
这些愿望也很重要，但不如超级重要的第一个愿望那么重要。
Well, in my state I only had one wish that I needed fulfilling, so I just made stuff up for the merely important second and third wishes, wishing for better health and a new romance.
好吧，以我的状态，我只有一个需要实现的愿望，所以我只是弥补了第二个和第三个重要的愿望，希望身体更健康，有新的恋情。
On the dark bus she whispered across the aisle, assuring me that I was now in better health and that I could expect a new love in my life.
在漆黑的公交车上，她在过道上低声说话，向我保证我现在的健康状况更好了，我可以期待生命中的新爱情。
Then she asked me to tell her my super important wish, my number one wish.
然后她让我告诉她我超级重要的愿望，我的第一愿望。
"But you told me not to tell me anyone," I said.
“但你告诉我不要告诉我任何人，”我说。
"You can tell me," she said, "but don't tell anyone else."
“你可以告诉我，”她说，“但不要告诉其他人。”
So I told her I wished I wasn't riding the bus anymore.
所以我告诉她我希望我不再坐公共汽车了。
"Oh," she said.
“哦，”她说。
"You're tired of riding the bus.
“你厌倦了坐公共汽车。
I can see it in your face that you're very tired.
从你的脸上我可以看出你很累。
You have a kind face." She whispered about my face and described how tired I looked for five minutes, mentioning three times that while I might be laughing on the outside I was really crying on the inside.
你有一张慈祥的脸。”她低声谈论我的脸，描述了我五分钟的样子有多疲惫，并三度提到，虽然我表面上在笑，但内心却在哭泣。
But I wasn't laughing, not even on the outside.
但我没有笑，甚至表面上也没有。
When she was done I watched her slip my 10 in her pocket.
当她完成后，我看着她把我的 10 美元塞进口袋里。
Meanwhile, I was still on the bus.
与此同时，我还在公交车上。
Dishwasher Pete will be putting out a new issue of his zine Dishwasher in a few weeks.
洗碗机皮特将在几周内推出新一期的杂志《洗碗机》。
Grab a pen.
拿起一支笔。
If you send him a dollar, you can get it.
如果你给他寄一美元，你就能得到。
At P.O.
在邮政信箱
Box 8213, Portland, Oregon, 97207.
俄勒冈州波特兰市 8213 号信箱，邮编 97207。
[MUSIC - "GREYHOUND THEME IN E MINOR" BY IAN LYNAM AND PAUL IONNATI]
[音乐 - “E 小调灰狗主题”，作者：IAN LYNAM 和 PAUL IONNATI]
Act Two, Merci.
第二幕，谢谢。
A road trip can be a profound test of any relationship.
公路旅行对任何关系来说都是一次深刻的考验。
After all, expectations are high, everybody's looking for a good time.
毕竟，期望很高，每个人都在寻找美好时光。
And at the same time you're in circumstances that can make anybody irritable, probably because you're together all the time.
与此同时，你所处的环境会让任何人变得烦躁，可能是因为你们一直在一起。
All the time.
一直以来。
Because of all this, a road trip can save a marriage or destroy it.
正因为如此，公路旅行可以挽救婚姻，也可以摧毁它。
We bring you this case example told by Carmen Rivera and Candido Tirado at the Nuyorican Cafe in guess which east coast city.
我们为您带来卡门·里维拉 (Carmen Rivera) 和坎迪多·蒂拉多 (Candido Tirado) 在 Nuyorican 咖啡馆讲述的案例，猜猜是哪个东海岸城市。
A couple years ago a friend of Carmen's decided to get married in Italy.
几年前，卡门的一位朋友决定在意大利结婚。
The friend was already married, but the friend had not told her parents.
朋友已经结婚了，但朋友还没有告诉她的父母。
So she decided to get married again on her anniversary in Italy with her parents present.
因此，她决定在父母出席的情况下在意大利结婚周年纪念日再次结婚。
So we think it's a good idea, but we're not really sure if we want to go.
所以我们认为这是个好主意，但我们不确定是否要去。
She invites us to the wedding and we're not really sure because we had gone to Italy the year before and we're kind of not getting along.
她邀请我们参加婚礼，但我们不太确定，因为我们前一年去了意大利，我们相处得不太好。
We're not communicating and we're kind of angry at each other.
我们没有沟通，而且还对彼此感到愤怒。
And it was this atmosphere of a general malaise in the house.
房子里的气氛就是一种普遍的不适。
Malaise?
身体不适？
[LAUGHS] Carmen Rivera That's what it was.
[笑]卡门·里维拉 就是这样。
What do you want to call it?
你想叫它什么？
Fighting.
斗争。
Changing the TV channel.
改变电视频道。
I mean, we fought about everything.
我的意思是，我们为所有事情而争吵。
OK.
好的。
Whatever.
任何。
Carmen Rivera OK.
卡门·里维拉 好的。
So we're in this malaise.
所以我们陷入了这种不适之中。
We haven't decided yet.
我们还没有决定。
And we get a phone call from Paris, from a friend of ours, [?
我们接到一个从巴黎打来的电话，是我们的一个朋友打来的，[？
Malika ?], who invites us to stay in her house in Paris.
马莉卡？]，她邀请我们住在她在巴黎的家里。
And we tell her about the wedding in Italy and she goes, well, why don't you come stay with me and then we'll all go together to Italy?
我们告诉她在意大利举行婚礼的事，她说，好吧，你为什么不来和我住在一起，然后我们一起去意大利？
So I think that's a great idea.
所以我认为这是个好主意。
We can kind of be with friends in Europe--
我们可以和欧洲的朋友在一起——
I need to interrupt here.
我需要在这里打断一下。
When she says Paris, see, you don't get the idea.
当她说巴黎时，你看，你不明白这个意思。
This is an obsession.
这是一种痴迷。
Ever since I know her, she says, I want to go to Paris, I want to go Paris.
自从我认识她，她就说，我想去巴黎，我想去巴黎。
Every movie that has Paris in the backdrop, we see.
我们看到每一部以巴黎为背景的电影。
Every magazine article, "Look, Candido, Paris." So I decided to quench this thirst.
每一篇杂志文章都是“看，坎迪多，巴黎。”所以我决定解解渴。
All right, that's kind of true.
好吧，确实如此。
OK.
好的。
So I'm really psyched and I'm thinking, OK, maybe if we go to Paris we can work on our, you know--
所以我真的很兴奋，我在想，好吧，也许如果我们去巴黎，我们可以做我们的，你知道的——
Malaise.
不适。
Carmen Rivera --malaise.
卡门·里维拉——不适。
So the next thing we know, we're in Paris.
接下来我们知道，我们到了巴黎。
And it's better than I ever thought it could be.
这比我想象的要好。
The light was amazing, and the architecture's amazing.
光线令人惊叹，建筑也令人惊叹。
The food.
食物。
Carmen Rivera The art, the food.
卡门·里维拉 艺术，美食。
It was wonderful.
太棒了。
But where's [?
但是[？
Malika ?], the person that was going to give us the apartment to stay in?
Malika？]，那个要给我们提供公寓住的人？
She's nowhere to be found.
她无处可寻。
And we call her apartment, and they say the number's disconnected.
我们给她的公寓打电话，他们说号码已关机。
So we get a hotel room on the Left Bank.
所以我们在左岸找到了一个酒店房间。
And I'm just really overly excited.
我真的太兴奋了。
And one day on our way to the Eiffel Tower, we go through the Jardin du Luxembourg, which is a beautiful park.
有一天，在前往埃菲尔铁塔的路上，我们经过卢森堡公园，这是一个美丽的公园。
And out of the corner of my eye, I see chess tables.
我用眼角的余光看到了棋桌。
And like we said before, he's a chess master.
正如我们之前所说，他是一位国际象棋大师。
He's a national master.
他是国家大师。
He's in the top 1% of the United States.
他是美国前1%的人。
So the last thing I want to see is a chess table.
所以我最不想看到的就是棋桌。
So I tell him, "Look, Candido, look at the puppet show over there.
所以我告诉他，“看，坎迪多，看那边的木偶戏。
Isn't that really great?
那不是真的很棒吗？
All these little kids.
所有这些小孩子。
Look, tennis courts.
看，网球场。
Wow, there's so many things to do in the park--"
哇，公园里可玩的东西真多啊——”
Look, chess tables over here.
看，这里有棋桌。
Let's go see.
我们去看看吧。
So we're in this great romantic city, city of love, and we're supposed to be, you know, trying to reconnect and cure our malaise and he spent all his time in Paris playing chess and I spent my time--
所以我们在这座伟大的浪漫之城，爱之城，你知道，我们应该努力重新建立联系并治愈我们的不适，他把所有的时间都花在了巴黎下棋，而我则花了我的时间——
Going to museums, stuff like that.
去博物馆之类的。
Who cares?
谁在乎？
The week passes and we take a train overnight to Paris.
一周过去了，我们连夜乘火车前往巴黎。
Modena.
摩德纳。
Candido Tirado To Modena.
坎迪多·蒂拉多 前往摩德纳。
Excuse me.
打扰一下。
But we get to Modena, and her friend, we call her, and she says, yeah, I'll be there in 25 minutes.
但我们到达摩德纳后，我们打电话给她的朋友，她说，是的，我 25 分钟内就能到达。
Comes to pick us up in three hours.
三小时后来接我们。
And I saw that as a sign that we shouldn't be there.
我认为这是一个迹象，表明我们不应该在那里。
We should be in Paris where I could be playing chess.
我们应该在巴黎，我可以在那里下棋。
And Carmen didn't want to go back.
卡门不想回去。
Because I knew that as soon as we got back to Paris, he would play chess.
因为我知道我们一回到巴黎，他就会下棋。
I was like, no way.
我当时想，没办法。
I want a vacation.
我想要一个假期。
We're going to be here in Italy.
我们要去意大利。
We're going to support my friend.
我们会支持我的朋友。
I don't want to hear the word chess.
我不想听到国际象棋这个词。
So her friend lives like-- we thought she lived in the city but she really lives like in Arkansas.
所以她朋友的生活就像——我们以为她住在城市里，但她实际上生活在阿肯色州。
Cow country.
牛国。
So now we get stuck in this house in Arkansas.
所以现在我们被困在阿肯色州的这所房子里。
Formigene.
福米金。
Candido Tirado Formigene.
坎迪多·蒂拉多·福尔米金。
And she drops us there with her non-English, Spanish speaking parents and she leaves to the country house.
她把我们和她不会说英语、讲西班牙语的父母送到那里，然后她就前往乡间别墅。
And leaves us there.
然后把我们留在那里。
And then she cancels the wedding.
然后她取消了婚礼。
And she decides not even to tell her parents that she's married.
她决定甚至不告诉父母她已经结婚了。
So we spend that week alone with her parents.
所以我们单独和她的父母一起度过了这一周。
It wasn't that bad.
事情并没有那么糟糕。
Carmen Rivera Because they were pretty nice.
卡门·里维拉 因为他们非常好。
On liquor made out of chestnuts, and they were very nice to us.
喝栗子酒，他们对我们很好。
But he's complaining again, there's no chess.
但他又抱怨了，没有棋。
Everything's old, it looks like a tomb.
一切都很旧，看起来就像一座坟墓。
I'm upset, there's no chess players here.
我很沮丧，这里没有棋手。
I want to leave.
我想离开。
I get claustrophobic, you know.
我有幽闭恐惧症，你知道的。
We start fighting more and more.
我们开始越来越打架。
So we start fighting more and more.
所以我们开始越来越激烈地争吵。
My friend asks me if I support her decision about this wedding.
我的朋友问我是否支持她关于这场婚礼的决定。
I tell her, no. I mean, you know, you're 35 years old, you should tell your parents you're married.
我告诉她，不。我的意思是，你知道，你已经35岁了，你应该告诉你的父母你结婚了。
And so she's mad at me.
所以她对我很生气。
So she stops talking to me.
所以她不再和我说话了。
Him and I have one of the hugest fights, and we break up.
他和我发生了一场最激烈的争吵，然后我们分手了。
And he says, "You know what?"
他说：“你知道吗？”
I'm going back to Paris.
我要回巴黎了。
Carmen Rivera And I'm like, go.
卡门·里维拉 我想，走吧。
I'm like, go, but I have all the passports.
我想，走吧，但我有所有的护照。
I take care of the tickets.
我负责处理门票。
I'm the one that made all the phone calls in French and Italian.
我是用法语和意大利语打所有电话的人。
So I tell him, OK, if you can figure out on your own how to get back to Paris, you can go.
所以我告诉他，好吧，如果你能自己弄清楚如何回到巴黎，你就可以走。
So he couldn't figure out how to get back, so he stayed with me.
所以他不知道如何回去，所以他留在了我身边。
I knew how to go back.
我知道如何回去。
I just didn't know how to speak the language to get back, you know.
我只是不知道如何用语言回去，你知道。
OK.
好的。
All right.
好的。
So the next stage of this whole trip is to go to Corsica.
所以整个行程的下一阶段就是去科西嘉岛。
And we had made plans, so we all go.
我们已经制定了计划，所以我们都去吧。
So my friend is mad.
所以我的朋友很生气。
They're fighting and we're fighting.
他们在战斗，我们也在战斗。
And we wind up in Corsica.
我们最终到达了科西嘉岛。
Now Corsica, I don't know if you've been there but it's like the ugliest place I've ever been to.
现在科西嘉岛，我不知道你是否去过那里，但它就像是我去过的最丑陋的地方。
It's these ugly rocks coming out from the ground.
这些丑陋的石头是从地下长出来的。
And so I'm not really happy here.
所以我在这里并不是很开心。
And I'm feeling more and more claustrophobic because now I'm in another country.
我感觉越来越幽闭恐惧症，因为我现在在另一个国家。
So we drive down and we turn a mountain and we go to the south of, um--
所以我们开车下来，翻过一座山，然后去南边，嗯--
Corsica.
科西嘉岛。
Candido Tirado Corsica which is Bonifacio.
坎迪多·蒂拉多·科西嘉岛，即博尼法乔。
And they turned and we come up into this beautiful town.
他们转身，我们来到了这个美丽的小镇。
And the other people, they went camping.
其他人则去露营。
So we wouldn't go camping with them because I don't camp in New York.
所以我们不会和他们一起去露营，因为我不在纽约露营。
You know.
你知道。
I'm not traveling across the world to go camping.
我不会环游世界去露营。
So they get very angry at us, of course.
所以他们当然对我们非常生气。
You know, that's another thing to be angry about.
你知道，这是另一件事让人生气。
And we get to Bonifacio and it's, like, one of the most beautiful places I've ever been to.
我们到达博尼法乔，它是我去过的最美丽的地方之一。
It's built into the rock, but it looks like Monaco.
它建在岩石中，但看起来像摩纳哥。
It has those kind of lights.
它有那种灯。
It's very romantic.
非常浪漫。
And our friend drops us off in our hotel and she goes, "Well, I'll see you next week." And she just drives off.
我们的朋友把我们送到酒店，她说：“好吧，下周见。”她就开车走了。
Now, we don't have work, we don't have chess, we don't have her friend.
现在，我们没有工作，没有下棋，也没有她的朋友。
All we have left between us is our general malaise.
我们之间只剩下全身不适。
We start-- first, we're not really talking to each other and he's really upset.
我们开始——首先，我们并没有真正互相交谈，他真的很沮丧。
He's like, you know, this really sucks.
他就像，你知道，这真的很糟糕。
I can't believe that you did this to me.
我不敢相信你对我做了这样的事
I could have been in Paris.
我本来可以在巴黎。
But then we start taking walks.
但随后我们开始散步。
I mean, there's really not much else to do and, so--
我的意思是，真的没有什么别的事可做，所以——
One morning.
一天早上。
Carmen Rivera There's a beautiful prehistoric town, and we start kind of connecting and talking about the history.
卡门·里维拉（Carmen Rivera）有一个美丽的史前小镇，我们开始建立联系并谈论历史。
One morning we're eating breakfast in a beautiful restaurant that's built into the rock.
一天早上，我们在一家建在岩石中的美丽餐厅吃早餐。
And it's a very clear day.
这是非常晴朗的一天。
And we're on the patio.
我们在露台上。
And you can see Sardinia.
你还可以看到撒丁岛。
And it dawned on me, wow, we're two Puerto Ricans from the Bronx and we're here and we see Sardinia and this beautiful day.
我突然意识到，哇，我们是来自布朗克斯的两个波多黎各人，我们在这里，我们看到了撒丁岛和这美好的一天。
And I look over to Candido and I'm like, wow, I'm really glad I'm sharing this with him.
我看着坎迪多，我想，哇，我真的很高兴能和他分享这个。
I was feeling the same way.
我也有同样的感觉。
Carmen Rivera So Sunday morning was the seventh day.
卡门·里维拉 所以周日早上是第七天。
She calls and she says, OK, be downstairs in 20 minutes.
她打电话说，好的，20 分钟内下楼。
We go downstairs, 20 minutes, she comes and we get back in the car.
我们下楼，20 分钟后，她来了，我们回到车里。
And it took 12 hours to get back to Formigine.
花了12个小时才回到福尔米金。
Because there's a long ride, there's a ferry, and then there's another long ride in Italy.
因为有一个长途旅行，有一个渡轮，然后在意大利还有另一个长途旅行。
And in those 12 hours nobody said a word.
在那12个小时里，没有人说过一句话。
And she was really upset.
她真的很难过。
And we're kind of feeling good, but we're just reading the vibe and we're like, OK, we shouldn't say anything.
我们感觉很好，但我们只是在解读这种氛围，我们想，好吧，我们不应该说什么。
The next morning we pack.
第二天早上我们收拾行李。
And we're supposed to be leaving about 4:00 to catch the 5 o'clock train.
我们预计 4:00 左右出发去赶 5 点钟的火车。
And somewhere about 12 o'clock she calls Carmen over.
大约 12 点左右，她把卡门叫了过来。
She wants to talk to me privately.
她想和我私下谈谈。
And she brings me into this office in her-- she has a really big house.
她把我带进了她的办公室——她有一栋很大的房子。
And she says, I'm really mad at you because you didn't talk to me on the way back from Corsica.
她说，我真的很生你的气，因为你从科西嘉岛回来的路上没有跟我说话。
I don't know what's up with you.
我不知道你怎么了。
You didn't go camping.
你没有去露营。
Carmen Rivera You didn't go camping with me.
卡门·里维拉：你没有和我一起去露营。
You went to Paris first.
你先去了巴黎。
And you said you were going to come here earlier.
你说你要早点来这里。
But then you were here too long in my house and you used the washing machine.
但后来你在我家呆得太久了，还用了洗衣机。
Like, oh my god, make up your mind.
就像，天啊，下定决心吧。
If you're upset at me, just pick something.
如果你生我的气，就选一些东西吧。
I was so confused.
我很困惑。
And then it dawned on me kind of, you know, this is not the friendship I thought it was.
然后我突然意识到，你知道，这不是我想象的友谊。
And I'm like, well, you know what?
我想，好吧，你知道吗？
I'm not going to deal with this.
我不打算处理这个问题。
I'm out of here.
我要离开这里了
She was like, fine, get out of my house right now.
她说，好吧，现在就离开我的房子。
So I go get Candido, in the back yard studying chess.
所以我去找坎迪多，他在后院学习国际象棋。
He has a chess book.
他有一本国际象棋书。
Candido Tirado My chess board.
坎迪多·蒂拉多 我的棋盘。
But, you know, we're happy so I don't feel like a chess widow anymore, so it's OK.
但是，你知道，我们很高兴，所以我不再觉得自己像个国际象棋寡妇，所以没关系。
So I go tell him we have to leave.
所以我去告诉他我们必须离开。
So we pack.
所以我们打包。
And as we're packing-- and I know something's going to happen because we have to have that blow up, you know?
当我们收拾行李时——我知道会发生一些事情，因为我们必须爆炸，你知道吗？
We go outside, and there's a black cloud right on top of the house.
我们走到外面，看到房子顶上有一片乌云。
And it starts to rain on top of the house.
房子顶上开始下雨。
It wasn't raining any other place.
其他地方都没有下雨。
There was sun all over the place, except on top of the house.
除了屋顶之外，到处都是阳光。
So I said OK, this is the universe playing a trick on us or God laughing at us.
所以我说好吧，这是宇宙在捉弄我们，或者是上帝在嘲笑我们。
And her mother says, take them to the train station.
她妈妈说，带他们去火车站。
So I know we're not going to make it to the train station because in the car we are going to blows.
所以我知道我们不会去火车站，因为在车里我们会打架。
So she takes the back roads down the tomato fields and she begins to berate us.
于是她沿着番茄田里的小路走，开始斥责我们。
She starts arguing.
她开始争论。
She just rehashes the whole argument all over again and how we couldn't make it on our own to the train station.
她只是把整个争论重述了一遍，以及我们如何无法自己到达火车站。
You're so smart, why don't you make it on your own?
你这么聪明，为什么不自己做呢？
I'm in Arkansas, that's why.
我在阿肯色州，这就是原因。
Carmen Rivera That's true.
卡门·里维拉 确实如此。
So she says, if you don't let me speak, I'm going to throw you out of the car.
所以她说，如果你不让我说话，我就把你从车里扔出去。
So we said, throw us out.
所以我们说，把我们赶出去。
Carmen Rivera Throw us out.
卡门·里维拉 把我们赶出去。
Which she did.
她做到了。
Carmen Rivera She gets out of the car.
卡门·里维拉 她下了车。
She takes all our bags out--
她把我们所有的包都拿出来——
Throws them in the street.
把他们扔到街上。
Carmen Rivera She's like, get out of here, I never want to see you again.
卡门·里维拉（Carmen Rivera） 她说，离开这里，我再也不想见到你了。
Stops traffic.
停止交通。
I mean, there's like 50 cars now looking at us.
我的意思是，现在大约有 50 辆车在看着我们。
People getting out of the cars.
人们从车里下来。
And leaves us with our bags, walking down this road.
然后把行李留给我们，沿着这条路走。
But we have a cart.
但我们有一辆购物车。
So we put all the bags in the cart.
所以我们把所有的袋子都放进购物车里。
And suddenly, we feel free.
突然间，我们感到自由了。
We start laughing.
我们开始笑。
Candido Tirado We start laughing.
坎迪多·蒂拉多 我们开始大笑。
And we never felt so free in this three weeks.
这三周里我们从未感到如此自由。
It was like five miles away from the train station.
距火车站大约五英里。
As we walk down this straight, narrow road I started thinking about the soldiers in World War II when the war was over.
当我们走在这条又直又窄的路上时，我开始想起二战结束后的士兵们。
And they were going home and they had won the war.
他们正在回家，他们赢得了战争。
And Carmen and I are walking--
卡门和我正在散步——
We looked at each other, and we talked about that, this war that we'd just been through.
我们面面相觑，谈论着我们刚刚经历过的这场战争。
And it just felt so peaceful and--
感觉如此平静——
So right.
太对了。
Carmen Rivera I fell in love again.
卡门·里维拉 我又坠入爱河了。
It was really beautiful.
真的很漂亮。
Thank you.
谢谢。
Carmen Rivera Thank you very much.
卡门·里维拉 非常感谢。
Carmen Rivera and Candido Tirado told their story during an evening of traveling stories held by The Moth.
卡门·里维拉 (Carmen Rivera) 和坎迪多·蒂拉多 (Candido Tirado) 在 The Moth 举办的旅行故事之夜讲述了他们的故事。
They're playwrights.
他们是剧作家。
Both of them have plays running at the Spanish Repertory Theater in New York.
他们的戏剧都在纽约的西班牙话剧团上演。
Coming up, martinis every day, El Producto cigars, no fresh fruit or vegetables, and four high school cheerleaders.
接下来，每天喝马提尼酒，El Producto 雪茄，不吃新鲜水果或蔬菜，还有四名高中啦啦队员。
That's what you get when your job is one long road trip and you are the 92-year-old George Burns.
当你的工作是一次长途旅行，而你是 92 岁的乔治·伯恩斯 (George Burns) 时，你就会得到这样的结果。
We have an eyewitness account.
我们有目击者的叙述。
That's in a minute from Public Radio International when our program continues.
一分钟后，国际公共广播电台将继续我们的节目。
It's This American Life.
这就是美国生活。
I'm Ira Glass.
我是艾拉·格拉斯。
Each week on our program of course we choose a theme, invite a variety of writers and performers to tackle that theme.
当然，我们每周的节目都会选择一个主题，邀请各种作家和表演者来解决这个主题。
Today's program, as our nation heads out on the road for the Memorial Day weekend, Road Trip, the pleasures and disappointments of life on the road.
今天的节目，当我们的国家踏上阵亡将士纪念日周末的道路时，公路旅行，路上生活的快乐和失望。
We have arrived at Act Three of our program.
我们已经到了我们计划的第三幕了。
Act Three, On the Road in a Tuxedo.
第三幕，穿着燕尾服在路上。
There are two ways you feel when you interview a celebrity.
当你采访名人时，你有两种感觉。
There are those that make you feel like a person.
有些让你感觉自己是一个人。
Then there are the kind who make you feel like a blip.
还有一些会让你感觉像是昙花一现。
There's nothing wrong with a blip interview.
一次短暂的面试并没有什么问题。
In fact, it's liberating.
事实上，它是一种解放。
You can say whatever you want to them.
你可以对他们说任何你想说的话。
They will not remember you.
他们不会记得你。
10 years ago reporter Margy Rochlin was sent to do a magazine story about George Burns.
10 年前，记者玛吉·罗克林 (Margy Rochlin) 被派去撰写有关乔治·伯恩斯 (George Burns) 的杂志报道。
For a 92-year-old, he was spending a lot of time on the road.
对于一个92岁的老人来说，他大部分时间都在路上度过。
25 shows a year at conventions and other one night gigs.
25 展示了一年中的会议和其他过夜演出。
Plus weeklong stints in Vegas and Atlantic City.
加上在维加斯和大西洋城为期一周的工作。
This is the story of a road trip as business not pleasure.
这是一个关于公路旅行的故事，它是商务旅行而不是娱乐。
George's entourage in its entirety at that time included Irving Fein, his then 77-year-old manager, and Morty Jacobs, his piano player for, at that time, 23 years.
当时乔治的全部随行人员包括他当时 77 岁的经理欧文·费恩 (Irving Fein)，以及当时为他演奏 23 年的钢琴演奏家莫蒂·雅各布斯 (Morty Jacobs)。
From the start it was clear to Margy, they were kind men, they were polite men.
从一开始，玛吉就清楚，他们是善良的人，他们是有礼貌的人。
They called her "kid" the way they called everybody "kid." They reminded her a lot of some of her older Jewish relatives.
他们称她为“孩子”，就像他们称每个人为“孩子”一样。他们让她想起了她的一些年长的犹太亲戚。
But this was a blip story.
但这只是一个昙花一现的故事。
9 o'clock Friday night, Moscow, Idaho.
周五晚上 9 点，爱达荷州莫斯科。
University Inn.
大学旅馆。
We sit around in the common living room that connects George and Irving's bedrooms.
我们坐在连接乔治和欧文卧室的公共客厅里。
George and Irving always get connected bedrooms, with a living room in between if they can.
乔治和欧文的卧室总是相连的，如果可以的话，中间还有一个客厅。
In the late afternoon when it's quiet, this is where George and Irving like to sit.
午后很安静的时候，乔治和欧文喜欢坐在这里。
They watch television.
他们看电视。
They read the trades.
他们阅读交易。
Right now Morty's here.
现在莫蒂就在这里。
The sun is set and it's early evening.
太阳已经落山，时间已是傍晚。
In general, they have three main topics of conversation, the act, the schedule, and where they want to eat.
一般来说，他们的谈话主题主要有三个：表演、日程安排和想去哪里吃饭。
Here's some typical dialogue.
这是一些典型的对话。
Morty will say, "Where should we eat?" And Irving will say, "The Broiler Room." That's the hotel steakhouse.
莫蒂会说：“我们应该去哪里吃饭？”欧文会说，“肉鸡室”。那是酒店的牛排馆。
And then George will say, "John will know." John's the handler who picked us up at the airport and drove us to the hotel.
然后乔治会说：“约翰会知道的。”约翰是在机场接我们并开车送我们到酒店的经理。
And then Irving will say, "I think we should do the Broiler Room." And then George will say, "John will know.
然后欧文会说，“我认为我们应该做肉鸡室。”然后乔治会说：“约翰会知道的。
Ask John." And then Irving will say, "I'm making a reservation at the Broiler Room." But not moved towards the telephone.
问问约翰吧。”然后欧文会说：“我要在肉鸡室预订。”但没有走向电话。
And on and on and on.
不断不断。
It's like dialogue that David Mamet would write if David Mamet wrote scenes where absolutely nothing was at stake.
这就像大卫·马梅特会写的对话，如果大卫·马梅特写的场景绝对没有任何危险。
We head down to the Broiler Room.
我们前往肉鸡室。
All through dinner there's this constant traffic of fans, including at one point four cheerleaders.
整个晚宴期间，球迷们源源不断地涌来，其中一度还包括四名啦啦队员。
They're wearing short skirts and tight sweaters and their nervous energy fills the room.
她们穿着短裙和紧身毛衣，整个房间充满了紧张的气氛。
"Go, George, Go!" they scream over and over again while they shake and wiggle and do air splits and rattle their crepe paper pom poms.
“走吧，乔治，走吧！”他们一遍又一遍地尖叫，同时摇晃、扭动、劈叉，让绉纸绒球发出嘎嘎声。
Then, floor show over, they run out in a single file as if everything they do is part of a routine.
然后，现场表演结束后，他们排成一列跑出去，就好像他们所做的一切都是例行公事的一部分。
Then in comes the chef to ask for George's autograph.
然后厨师进来索要乔治的签名。
But George Burns likes these intrusions.
但乔治·伯恩斯喜欢这些侵入。
He's nourished by them.
他被他们滋养了。
When it's finally quite he says to me, "Aren't people nice?"
当一切终于平静下来时，他对我说：“人们不是很好吗？”
Because I'm a reporter, I'm a blip.
因为我是一名记者，所以我是一个小人物。
But the public gets his full attention.
但公众得到了他的充分关注。
He establishes eye contact with each approaching fan and he smiles at them and he asks how they're doing.
他与每一位走近的粉丝进行眼神交流，对他们微笑，询问他们过得怎么样。
And when he leaves the Broiler Room, he'll choose the most complicated route, slowly threading his way through the tables of the main dining room, touching people on the shoulder lightly, and saying things like, "Don't pay the check."
当他离开肉鸡室时，他会选择最复杂的路线，慢慢地穿过主餐厅的桌子，轻轻拍拍人们的肩膀，然后说“不要付账”之类的话。
It's nice to be here.
很高兴来到这里。
It's nice to be anywhere.
去任何地方都很好。
While we're on the road I probably see him do his act five times.
当我们在路上时，我可能看到他表演了五次。
Each time it sounds totally spontaneous, like he's making it up right there, just riffing for the crowd, even though, give or take a gag or two, it's the exact same act he's been doing for 15 years.
每一次听起来都是完全自发的，就像他就在那里编造出来的，只是为观众即兴表演，尽管有一两处插科打诨，这与他 15 年来一直在做的一模一样。
And thank you for that standing ovation.
感谢大家起立鼓掌。
But it made me nervous.
但这让我很紧张。
See, as a rule, an entertainer gets a standing ovation at the end of the show.
通常，表演者在表演结束时会得到全场起立鼓掌。
You were afraid I wouldn't last that long.
你怕我坚持不了那么久。
What's amazing about all this is that on the surface the act doesn't seem to vary from city to city.
令人惊奇的是，从表面上看，各个城市的行为似乎并没有什么不同。
But to George it's an eternal work in progress.
但对乔治来说，这是一项永恒的工作。
Every night he makes microscopic changes.
每天晚上他都会做出细微的改变。
Maybe he'll decide to sing "Young at Heart" before "Old Bones." When he does this, he gets all worked up about it, thinks about it all day long.
也许他会决定先唱“Young at Heart”，然后再唱“Old Bones”。当他这样做的时候，他就会很激动，整天都在想这件事。
But this is how he's been able to be on the road for so long.
但这就是他能够在路上坚持这么久的原因。
This is how he keeps the act feeling fresh for himself.
这就是他让自己保持表演新鲜感的方法。
Sometimes he'll change a punchline.
有时他会改变一个妙语。
He has a gag in his act about people having to retire when they're 70.
他的表演中有一个笑话，说人们70岁就必须退休。
He says, "When I was 70, I had pimples." But one day George tries out a new line on me.
他说：“当我70岁的时候，我就长了青春痘。”但有一天，乔治在我身上尝试了一种新的台词。
He says, "When I was 70, I had cupid's eczema." I think that sounds sort of dirty, but I'm not going to be the one to tell him.
他说：“当我 70 岁时，我得了丘比特湿疹。”我觉得这听起来有点肮脏，但我不会告诉他。
In fact, I have tape of this, of myself lying to the nicest man on earth.
事实上，我有这段录音，是我对地球上最好的男人撒谎的。
What would you think that is, cupid's eczema?
你认为丘比特湿疹是什么？
Is it?
是吗？
George Burns No. It's not supposed to be.
乔治·伯恩斯：不。不应该是这样。
Well, that is dirty.
嗯，那很脏。
George Burns It isn't dirty.
乔治·伯恩斯 这并不脏。
You're making it dirty.
你把它弄脏了。
You don't know what cupid's eczema is.
你不知道什么是丘比特湿疹。
It could be anything.
它可以是任何东西。
Well, eczema is a-- Margy Rochlin A rash.
嗯，湿疹是——Margy Rochlin 一种皮疹。
A rash.
皮疹。
And cupid is the love.
而丘比特就是爱。
It's a love rash.
这是爱情的皮疹。
OK.
好的。
A love rash.
爱情的皮疹。
What's dirty about a love rash?
爱情皮疹有什么肮脏的？
That's true.
这是真的。
Margy Rochlin George and Irving can go on like this for hours.
玛吉·罗克林·乔治和欧文可以这样持续几个小时。
They go back and forth and back and forth.
他们来来回回。
And that night, George tries out the cupid's eczema line.
那天晚上，乔治尝试了丘比特湿疹系列。
It doesn't get laughs.
它不会让人发笑。
On the way home in the car we're silent.
回家的路上，我们一路沉默。
George and a driver in the front.
乔治和前面的一名司机。
Me in the back, squeezed hip to elbow between Irving and Morty.
我坐在后面，臀部挨着肘部挤在欧文和莫蒂之间。
Suddenly, George's rumbling voice cuts through the darkness.
突然，乔治隆隆的声音划破了黑暗。
"I'll never do that again," he says.
“我再也不会这样做了，”他说。
It's quiet for a while more.
又安静了一会儿。
"Morty," he says, "tomorrow night let's--" and then the conversation starts all over again.
“莫蒂，”他说，“明天晚上我们——”然后谈话又开始了。
Normally when I think of going on the road, I think of waking up at any hour, of not having to be anywhere at a certain time.
通常，当我想到上路时，我会想到随时醒来，而不是在特定时间去任何地方。
You're on a big adventure.
你正在进行一场大冒险。
The rules no longer apply.
规则不再适用。
There's no accountability.
没有责任。
But that's a civilian's road trip.
但这是平民的公路旅行。
I am on a very different kind of road trip.
我正在进行一次非常不同的公路旅行。
The road trip I'm on is not about adventure and unpredictability.
我的公路旅行并不是冒险和不可预测的。
The road trip I'm on is about making sure that everything is the same.
我正在进行的公路旅行是为了确保一切都一样。
This is the secret to George Burns' longevity, of how he's been able to stay on the road for so long without going crazy.
这就是乔治·伯恩斯长寿的秘诀，也是他能够在路上坚持这么久而不发疯的秘诀。
He wakes up at a certain time.
他在某个时间醒来。
He goes to sleep at a certain time.
他在某个时间去睡觉。
When he goes on the road, he likes his driver to take him to the airport in the late morning.
当他上路时，他喜欢司机在上午晚些时候送他去机场。
When he agrees to a booking it's stipulated in his contract that he'll be provided with a backless stool to sit on, a lightly rehearsed orchestra, an ashtray to flick his ashes in, and a pre-show speed ball made up of a couple of martinis chased by a cup of black coffee.
当他同意预订时，合同中规定，将为他提供一张无靠背的凳子供他坐，一个经过简单排练的管弦乐队，一个用来倒灰的烟灰缸，以及一个由几杯马提尼酒和一杯黑咖啡组成的演出前快速球。
He will only smoke El Productos.
他只会抽 El Productos。
In the afternoon he likes to take a two hour nap.
下午他喜欢小睡两个小时。
He hates fresh fruit and vegetables.
他讨厌新鲜水果和蔬菜。
By the end of our time together, I could order for him in a restaurant if necessary.
当我们在一起的时间结束时，如果有必要的话，我可以为他在餐馆点餐。
He likes bay shrimp cocktails.
他喜欢海湾虾鸡尾酒。
He likes roast chicken.
他喜欢烤鸡。
He likes his martinis, but doesn't care what brand of liquor they're made with.
他喜欢他的马提尼酒，但并不关心它们是用什么牌子的酒酿制的。
He just wants them to come one after the other.
他只是想让他们一个接一个地来。
He is 92 and no one can tell him what is good or bad for him to put in his own mouth.
他已经92岁了，没有人能告诉他什么对他来说是好是坏。
Same goes for what comes out of it.
由此产生的结果也是如此。
As the gin and vermouth kick in, his conversation tends to get naughty.
随着杜松子酒和苦艾酒的加入，他的谈话变得很调皮。
One night he recites to me a particularly memorable limerick that involves a mouse, the phrase "hickory dickory dock" and a reference to his own private parts.
一天晚上，他给我背诵了一首特别令人难忘的打油诗，其中涉及一只老鼠，短语“山核桃木码头”，还提到了他自己的私处。
Morty and Irving laugh, but I don't know what to do.
莫蒂和欧文笑了，但我不知道该怎么办。
If I laugh too hard, I'm scared they're going to think I'm some sort of slut girl.
如果我笑得太厉害，我担心他们会认为我是某种荡妇。
And if I don't, then I'm a pill, no fun at all.
如果我不这样做，那么我就是一颗药丸，一点乐趣也没有。
I feel as if I'm in another country with different customs and mores, and so I simply try every possible reaction one after the other, laughing, groaning, shaking my head, waiting for something that works.
我感觉自己仿佛身处另一个有着不同风俗习惯的国家，所以我只是一个接一个地尝试每一种可能的反应，大笑、呻吟、摇头，等待有效的办法。
The pace is very slow.
步伐很慢。
I wake up in the morning, drink coffee, wait for Irving's call.
我早上醒来，喝咖啡，等待欧文的电话。
Mostly I have free time.
大多数时候我有空闲时间。
I lay on a variety of queen-sized beds in a variety of shag carpet hotel rooms and stare up at the ceiling.
我躺在各种铺着长毛地毯的酒店房间的各种大床上，盯着天花板。
One day Irving calls to invite me to talk to George as he eats breakfast.
有一天，欧文打电话邀请我在乔治吃早餐时与他交谈。
You want something, kid?
你想要东西吗，孩子？
Margy Rochlin Nah.
玛吉·罗克林 不。
I'm just going to--
我只是要去——
No. I don't know if I can do the cereal.
不，我不知道我是否可以做麦片。
George is wearing a thick beige terry cloth bathrobe, beige pajamas, and slippers.
乔治穿着厚厚的米色毛巾布浴袍、米色睡衣和拖鞋。
His stiff grey toupee is somewhere in the other room.
他那僵硬的灰色假发在另一个房间的某个地方。
It's startling to see the man that lives underneath the hair, the stacked heeled shoes, the crisp tuxedo.
看到头发下面的男人、叠高跟鞋和挺括的燕尾服，真是令人震惊。
He looks vulnerable, bird like.
他看起来很脆弱，像鸟一样。
I have this realization.
我有这样的认识。
This will be a man who I will get to know in the moments between words.
这将是我在言语之间的瞬间认识的一个人。
Even on a road trip designed to avoid surprises, I find myself surprised by these men.
即使在一次旨在避免意外的公路旅行中，我也发现自己对这些人感到惊讶。
My view of them comes to change as we spend more time together.
随着我们在一起的时间越来越多，我对他们的看法也随之改变。
11:00 AM.
上午 11:00。
Reno, Nevada, Bally's hotel.
内华达州里诺，巴利的酒店。
I'm trying to keep my focus, but I'm tired.
我试图集中注意力，但我很累。
Tired of the empty hours, tired of waiting for Irving to call.
厌倦了空虚的时光，厌倦了等待欧文的电话。
Whenever I call my boyfriend, his answering machine picks up.
每当我给男朋友打电话时，他的电话答录机就会接通。
Finally I take the elevator to the hotel casino.
最后我乘电梯到了酒店赌场。
I play the slot machines, mindlessly pulling down the handle.
我玩老虎机，漫不经心地拉下手柄。
Somehow Irving finds me.
不知怎的，欧文找到了我。
I'm playing the quarter slots.
我正在玩四分之一老虎机。
I'm risking a grand total of $10, but he's positive that I will return home having handed over the title to my car.
我冒着总计 10 美元的风险，但他确信我会在移交汽车所有权后回家。
He goes away, then comes back and tells me it's time to quit.
他离开了，然后回来告诉我是时候辞职了。
He goes away, then comes back 15 minutes later and tells me again.
他离开了，15 分钟后又回来告诉了我一次。
I'm annoyed at his nagging, and touched.
我对他的唠叨很恼火，也很感动。
To save me from financial ruin, he asks me to take a walk with him.
为了让我免于经济破产，他邀请我和他一起散步。
Irving takes my hand and loops it past his bent elbow.
欧文握住我的手，绕过他弯曲的肘部。
Arm in arm, we stroll past places with names like The Mapes Hotel and the Liberty Bell Saloon.
我们手挽着手，漫步经过梅普斯酒店和自由钟酒吧等地。
The way Irving is almost bouncing down the street lets me know he's enjoying that we come off like a mismatched couple, that I'm his babe and he is my silver-haired, energetic sugar daddy.
欧文几乎在街上蹦蹦跳跳的样子让我知道他很享受我们像一对不般配的情侣，我是他的宝贝，他是我满头银发、精力充沛的糖爹。
Most of the time Irving does the talking.
大多数时候都是欧文在说话。
He tells me about his past.
他告诉我他的过去。
It's a history of 20th century show business, big jobs at CBS radio, in the movie studios.
这是 20 世纪演艺界的历史，哥伦比亚广播公司 (CBS) 广播电台和电影制片厂的重要工作。
Jack Benny hired him to be the president of his production company.
杰克·本尼聘请他担任制作公司的总裁。
It's a long story.
这是一个很长的故事。
Every once in awhile, though, Irving asks me personal questions about my family, about my friends, about my boyfriend.
不过，欧文偶尔会问我一些关于我的家人、我的朋友、我的男朋友的私人问题。
And then we head back to the hotel.
然后我们就回酒店了。
And when we get to my room, he drops me off with this thought.
当我们到达我的房间时，他带着这样的想法让我下车。
He says, "Leave your boyfriend.
他说：“离开你的男朋友。
He's no good.
他不好。
Find someone else." And he walks away, and I stand there feeling conflicted.
找别人吧。”然后他走开了，我站在那里感到矛盾。
I think, I'm no longer a blip to Irving, but who does he think he is?
我想，我对欧文来说不再是一个小插曲，但他以为自己是谁呢？
He doesn't know me.
他不认识我。
He's never met my boyfriend.
他从未见过我的男朋友。
A couple of years later I foll his advice.
几年后，我听从了他的建议。
And every once in awhile I think back, trying to remember what it was that I said to him, what allowed him to distill this conclusion from my small talk.
我时不时地回想一下，试图记住我对他说了什么，是什么让他从我的闲聊中提炼出这个结论。
How come he knew something that took so long for me to figure out?
为什么他知道一些我花了这么长时间才弄清楚的事情？
All I could come up with was how transparent I must have seemed to these men.
我所能想到的就是我对这些人来说一定是多么透明。
Transparent like teenagers are to me.
对我来说就像青少年一样透明。
I mean, how many different human stories are there?
我的意思是，有多少种不同的人类故事？
These men had already been there.
这些人已经在那里了。
Finally, we are on the road for so long that George is treating me like old news, which is where you want to be with George.
最后，我们在路上走了这么久，乔治把我当作旧新闻一样对待，这就是你想要和乔治在一起的地方。
When Irving lets me into George's suite before a show, George emerges from his room wearing shiny patent leather loafers, a crisp white shirt, a bow tie, and a knee-length paisley dressing down.
当欧文在演出前让我进入乔治的套房时，乔治穿着闪亮的漆皮乐福鞋、清爽的白衬衫、领结和及膝的佩斯利图案便装从他的房间里出来。
He is pantless.
他没穿裤子。
He doesn't want to put on his tuxedo slacks until the very last minute so they don't lose their knife-sharp crease.
他不想直到最后一刻才穿上燕尾服休闲裤，这样它们就不会失去锋利的折痕。
In the pocket of these pants is a watch chain.
这条裤子的口袋里有一条表链。
On the watch chain is Gracie's tiny gold wedding ring.
表链上挂着格雷西的小金结婚戒指。
The way he tells the story of their marriage is that he discovered his one true talent when he met Gracie Allen.
他讲述他们婚姻故事的方式是，当他遇到格雷西·艾伦时，他发现了自己真正的天赋。
And he stayed married to her for 38 years.
他与她的婚姻维持了38年。
He was the brains of the act, the one who wrote almost every word she said.
他是整个表演的大脑，她所说的几乎每一个字都是他写的。
But she was the one who the public loved.
但她却是深受大众喜爱的一位。
He tells me that since her death in 1964, he visits her once a month at Forest Lawn Cemetery so he can tell her what's been going on in his life.
他告诉我，自从她 1964 年去世以来，他每个月都会去森林草坪公墓看望她一次，这样他就可以告诉她他生活中发生的事情。
But at first, his need to see her was so great that he'd go every day.
但一开始，他非常想见她，所以每天都去。
Tonight he shows me the ring.
今晚他给我看了戒指。
George Burns When Gracie died, it was terrible.
乔治·伯恩斯 格雷西死后，情况非常糟糕。
Terribly dry.
非常干燥。
Then finally I started sleeping in Gracie's bed, and that helped a lot.
最后我开始睡在格雷西的床上，这很有帮助。
The night where Gracie died, that night, Bobby Darin said to me, George-- Mr. Burns he always called me-- he says, you don't want to sleep alone.
格雷西去世的那天晚上，鲍比·达林对我说，乔治——他总是叫我伯恩斯先生——他说，你不想一个人睡觉。
Why don't I go home and sleep with you?
我为什么不回家和你一起睡呢？
I says, Bobby I'd love it.
我说，鲍比，我会喜欢的。
But I mean, did it take you a long time to get your life back together?
但我的意思是，你花了很长时间才恢复生活吗？
I was shocked when Gracie died.
格雷西去世时我很震惊。
I didn't think Gracie should die.
我不认为格雷西应该死。
But you can't do anything.
但你什么也做不了。
So, how long did it take you to get back to work?
那么，您花了多长时间才回到工作岗位？
I started to work right away.
我立即开始工作。
That got nothing to with it.
这与它无关。
Show business has got nothing to do with that.
演艺界与此无关。
You're doing your act.
你正在做你的事。
You're making a living.
你正在谋生。
It's a different kind of--
这是一种不同的——
But at that time, you were financially solvent.
但那时，你有经济偿付能力。
I mean, you had plenty of money.
我的意思是，你有很多钱。
Wasn't it more just to take your mind off of things?
不就是为了让自己暂时忘掉一些事情吗？
I've got plenty of money now and I'm working.
我现在已经有很多钱了，而且我正在工作。
But you enjoy it.
但你喜欢它。
George Burns That's right.
乔治·伯恩斯 没错。
OK, so at that time was it more to-- what are you going to do?
好吧，当时更多的是——你打算做什么？
Just sit around.
就坐吧。
What would you do if somebody died?
如果有人死了你会怎么办？
You sit home and cry?
你坐在家里哭吗？
How long can you cry?
你还能哭多久？
Cry for two hours?
哭两个小时？
You cry.
你哭了。
And you cry, and you cry.
你哭了，你哭了。
Finally there are no more tears.
终于，再也没有眼泪了。
Now you go to work.
现在你去上班吧。
And you feel bad.
而你感觉很糟糕。
Every time you come home, you feel bad because Gracie isn't there.
每次你回到家，你都会因为格雷西不在而感到难过。
One night, years later, I was sitting in a restaurant in west Los Angeles when I saw George come in.
几年后的一个晚上，我坐在洛杉矶西部的一家餐馆里，看到乔治进来了。
He was with a couple of men and a youngish woman.
他和几个男人和一个年轻的女人在一起。
And they all hovered around him.
他们都在他周围盘旋。
He had aged so much.
他已经老了很多。
He moved slowly and was so tiny that he seemed to be lost inside of the dark suit he was wearing.
他动作缓慢，个子很小，似乎迷失在他穿着的深色西装里。
They all slipped into a red booth and ordered dinner.
他们都溜进了一个红色的摊位，点了晚餐。
I think the waiter brought George a martini.
我想服务员给乔治带来了一杯马提尼酒。
When it was time to go, I walked right by him, but I didn't say hello.
到了该走的时候，我从他身边走过，但没有打招呼。
To George I was always a blip, just another friendly face on the road.
对乔治来说，我始终是一个小插曲，只是路上另一张友好的面孔。
Margy Rochlin is a magazine writer in Los Angeles.
玛吉·罗克林 (Margy Rochlin) 是洛杉矶的一位杂志作家。
Act Four, Paw Paw for Jesus.
第四幕，爪爪为耶稣。
So what we want on the road, many of us, is adventure.
所以我们很多人在路上想要的就是冒险。
And what is adventure but a moment or a series of moments that you never could've predicted before you left home?
冒险不就是你离开家之前无法预测的一个或一系列时刻吗？
We have this story about one such moment from Cheryl Trykv.
我们有一个关于谢丽尔·特里克夫 (Cheryl Trykv) 的这样一个时刻的故事。
A warning to listeners with children in their car.
对车内有儿童的听众发出警告。
This story contains a lot of anti-social behavior.
这个故事包含很多反社会行为。
It's 1990 and she's wearing a 1977 bleached blond Farrah Fawcett feather do and electric blue Maybelline mascara which contrast nicely with the lime green polyester manager's pantsuit she's got on.
那是 1990 年，她穿着 1977 年漂白的法拉·福塞特 (Farrah Fawcett) 羽毛色金发，涂着电蓝色美宝莲睫毛膏，与她穿的石灰绿色涤纶经理裤套装形成鲜明对比。
And she's telling me, no, not for under $50 dollars a night.
她告诉我，不，每晚的价格不低于 50 美元。
Not for under $50 a night will she let me leave my car in the parking lot of her Paw Paw, Michigan Speedway convenience store gas station.
每晚不低于 50 美元，她就会让我把车停在密歇根赛道便利店加油站 Paw Paw 的停车场。
This, after an hour and a half of my going in and out, buying chips and juice and cigarettes, wondering what I'm going to do with the Ford Lynx I have borrowed from a friend, which has now got a split valve or something and is busted all to hell and I'm in the middle of goddamn nowhere on the other side of Dowagiac on my way to Kalamazoo for a getaway weekend.
在我进进出出一个半小时后，买了薯片、果汁和香烟，想着我要怎么处理从朋友那里借来的福特山猫，它现在有一个分流阀之类的东西，完全坏了，而我在去卡拉马祖度假的周末途中，在多瓦吉亚克另一边的一个该死的地方。
I wanted to see America.
我想去美国看看。
I ask her why I can't leave my car in the parking lot.
我问她为什么我不能把车停在停车场。
She says it's the rule.
她说这是规矩。
I ask who makes the decisions about that rule.
我问谁对这条规则做出决定。
She says she does.
她说她愿意。
She says, company policy.
她说，公司政策。
Well, whose company is it?
嗯，那是谁的公司呢？
She tells me it's her company and she doesn't break the rules.
她告诉我这是她的公司，她不会违反规定。
Well, you little [BLEEP] [BLEEP] [BLEEP] can you be a friend, I'm thinking to myself.
好吧，你这个小东西[BLEEP][BLEEP][BLEEP]你能成为一个朋友吗，我心里想。
I don't say it, but boy I'd like to.
我不说，但我愿意。
Instead I remind her very softly about American hospitality and how Americans are known the world over for their friendly, peaceful, helping nature.
相反，我非常温柔地提醒她美国人的热情好客，以及美国人如何因其友好、平和、乐于助人的天性而闻名于世。
I tell her that I noticed on my way in through her charming little town a sweet and simple church with a banner out front that read "Bold yet humble.
我告诉她，在穿过她迷人的小镇的路上，我注意到一座甜蜜而简单的教堂，前面挂着一条横幅，上面写着“大胆而谦虚。
Paw Paw for Jesus." There are few customers in the store, so I say it again, louder.
爪爪为耶稣。”店里顾客很少，我又大声说了一遍。
Paw Paw for Jesus.
爪爪为耶稣。
Paw Paw for Jesus.
爪爪为耶稣。
An older gentlemen with an Abraham Lincoln beard and an Elvis Presley coiffe stares at me blankly.
一位留着亚伯拉罕·林肯 (Abraham Lincoln) 胡子、头戴埃尔维斯·普雷斯利 (Elvis Presley) 发型的老绅士茫然地看着我。
The manager tells me to cut the crap and get out of the store.
经理叫我少说废话，离开商店。
OK, I say to her.
好吧，我对她说。
I look at her name badge, Mary Ann.
我看着她的名牌，玛丽·安。
I'll get out of your store.
我会离开你的商店。
But I ain't never coming back to Paw Paw.
但我永远不会回到Paw Paw。
And I turn and walk away.
我转身走开。
As I walk away, I accidentally shove my body against a candy bar display case, knocking over hundreds and thousands of Three Musketeers, Reese's, Special Dark, and Snickers.
当我走开时，我不小心将身体撞到了一个糖果陈列柜上，撞倒了成百上千的三个火枪手、里斯、特黑和士力架。
Sweet Tarts fly and spill.
甜馅饼飞溅。
A grand gesture of public nuisance.
这是公害的盛大举动。
That's it, missus, Mary Ann says from behind the counter.
就是这样，夫人，玛丽·安在柜台后面说道。
Your big city ass is cooked.
你的大城市屁股已经熟了。
I'm calling the police.
我要报警。
You idiot, I think to myself on my way out the door.
你这个白痴，出门的时候我心里这样想。
Do I look married to you?
我看起来和你结婚了吗？
I make it to the highway in no time flat, speed walk backwards with my thumb in the air, calling out to passing cars, Paw Paw for Jesus, Paw Paw for Jesus.
我很快就到了高速公路，大拇指举在空中，快速向后走，向过往的车辆喊道，“爪爪，耶稣，爪爪，耶稣”。
A few cars honk and wave, but nobody stops.
几辆车鸣笛挥手，但没有人停下来。
I can't imagine it might be what I'm wearing, the same jet black cocktail dress I wore the night before.
我无法想象这可能是我现在穿的，前一天晚上穿的那件深黑色的鸡尾酒会礼服。
Maybe my lipstick is too blood red for broad daylight in a small town like Paw Paw.
也许我的口红太血红色了，不适合像 Paw Paw 这样的小镇的光天化日之下。
Maybe I just don't seem like I belong here.
也许我只是看起来不属于这里。
Finally a van pulls over.
终于，一辆面包车停了下来。
It's a Chevy van, one with a mural painted on the side depicting what King Arthur and Guinevere might look like in the year 2500.
这是一辆雪佛兰面包车，侧面画着一幅壁画，描绘了 2500 年亚瑟王和桂妮薇儿的样子。
King Arthur wears a gold mesh nuclear cleanup suit.
亚瑟王穿着金网核清理服。
He carries a sword in one hand and a laser gun in the other.
他一手拿着剑，另一只手拿着激光枪。
Guinevere is nude and amply buxom.
吉娜薇裸体且十分丰满。
Where her pubic hair might be she holds the Holy Grail.
在她的阴毛所在的地方，她握着圣杯。
The driver leans over and opens the door.
司机倾身打开车门。
It's a man.
这是一个男人。
What a surprise.
真是一个惊喜。
I get in.
我进去了。
He asks how it is he's never seen me before.
他问他怎么以前从未见过我。
Maybe because I don't pose nude for Playboy.
也许是因为我不会为《花花公子》拍摄裸体照片。
At the mention of Playboy, he steps on the gas, speeds it to 105.
一提到《花花公子》，他就加大油门，将车速调到 105。
I've never gone 105 in a Chevy van before.
我以前从来没有开过雪佛兰面包车开过 105 公里。
it feels pretty good.
感觉还不错。
Faster, I say, and we both start laughing.
快点，我说，然后我们都开始大笑。
I roll down my window, stick my head out, and yell Paw Paw for Jesus to the wind.
我摇下车窗，伸出头，对着风大喊“爪爪求耶稣”。
I feel like taking off my top, but I don't.
我想脱掉上衣，但我没有。
Instead I sit back down into the passenger seat, bucket, severely vinyl, light a cigarette and enjoy as best I can the REO Speedwagon tape he's got blasting.
相反，我坐回到乘客座位上，桶，严重的乙烯基，点燃一根香烟，并尽我所能地欣赏他所播放的 REO Speedwagon 磁带。
He asks me why I'm hitchhiking, and just as he does, a sheriff's car speeds past us on its way back into town.
他问我为什么要搭便车，就在他这么做的时候，一辆警长的车在回城的路上从我们身边飞驰而过。
That's why, I say.
我说，这就是原因。
Cops.
警察。
What have I got against cops, he wants to know.
他想知道我对警察有什么不满。
Nothing, it's just that I'm allergic to pork.
没什么，只是我对猪肉过敏。
It occurs to me at this point to shut up.
此时我突然想到要闭嘴。
I really don't know this man and, in all likelihood, he is brother of Mary Ann, manager of the speedway who is daughter of the Sheriff of Paw Paw and that I am headed for a trap.
我真的不认识这个人，很可能他是高速公路经理玛丽·安的兄弟，玛丽·安是波波警长的女儿，我正走向陷阱。
And in one great, whirling moment of brilliance it becomes very clear to me what I must do and that is sham this vic.
在一个伟大的、旋转的辉煌时刻，我变得非常清楚我必须做什么，而这就是这个受害者的骗局。
It isn't all that difficult.
这并不是那么困难。
I've seen it in the movies.
我在电影里见过。
Just before Treat Williams gets his hair shaved in the woods, Beverly D'angelo steals a four door Ford from an army officer by seducing him down to his underwear.
就在特里特·威廉姆斯在树林里剃光头发之前，贝弗莉·德安吉洛引诱一名军官只穿内衣，偷走了他的一辆四门福特汽车。
She takes off with this car, his money, and his clothes, which is exactly what I mean to do.
她带着这辆车、他的钱和他的衣服离开了，这正是我想做的。
To prepare myself for this role of a lifetime, I change the tape to "Hotel California." The vic's neck is nasty with sweat, which I ordinarily wouldn't mind.
为了让自己做好准备，迎接这个终生难忘的角色，我将磁带改为“加州旅馆”。受害者的脖子上满是汗水，我通常不会介意。
But it has the stale, sweet taste of a flat Mountain Dew.
但它却有一种平淡的激浪的陈旧甜味。
I force myself to enjoy it.
我强迫自己去享受它。
By the end of "A Last Resort," "New Kid in Town," "Wasted Time," and "Wasted Time Reprise," he is down to his Fruit of the Loom and I am wearing dark blue corduroy Levis, a Queen concert t-shirt, and a feed cap with an American flag that reads "Try Burning This One Mother[BLEEP]."
在《A Last Resort》、《New Kid in Town》、《Wasted Time》和《Wasted Time Reprise》结束时，他已经开始沉浸在《织布机的果实》中，而我则穿着深蓝色灯芯绒李维斯牛仔裤、一件 Queen 音乐会 T 恤，戴着一顶印有美国国旗的饲料帽，上面写着“尝试燃烧这个母亲[BLEEP]”。
Shortly, I create in him the most urgent desire to pull over to the side of the road.
很快，我就让他产生了最迫切的愿望，想把车停到路边。
And while I'm straddling his lap I somehow open the door with my foot and with my very strong legs kick him out of the van, down onto the asphalt, his stunned, sorry eyes looking up at me in surprise.
当我跨坐在他的腿上时，我不知何故用脚打开了车门，用我非常有力的腿把他从货车里踢了出来，摔到了柏油路上，他震惊而悲伤的眼睛惊讶地抬头看着我。
Did you lose something?
你丢了什么东西吗？
30 miles or so up the road I spot a hitch hiker.
沿着路走了大约 30 英里，我发现了一个搭便车的人。
Hmm, somebody needs a ride.
嗯，有人需要搭车。
I pull over.
我靠边停车。
She's a frosty little lezebel with a shaved head and a backpack.
她是一个冷酷的小莱泽贝尔，剃着光头，背着背包。
She asks me where I'm going.
她问我要去哪里。
To hell.
见鬼去吧。
Want to come?
想来吗？
Ira Glass Cheryl Trykv is a writer here in Chicago.
艾拉·格拉斯 (Ira Glass) 谢丽尔·特里克夫 (Cheryl Trykv) 是芝加哥的一名作家。
Our program was produced today by Julie Snyder and myself with Alix Spiegel and Nancy Updike.
今天我们的节目由朱莉·斯奈德和我、阿利克斯·斯皮格尔和南希·厄普代克共同制作。
Our senior editor for this show, Paul Tough.
我们这个节目的高级编辑，Paul Tough。
Contributing editors Jack Hitt, Margy Rochlin and Consigliere Sarah Vowell.
特约编辑 Jack Hitt、Margy Rochlin 和 Consigliere Sarah Vowell。
Production help from Jorge Just, Todd Bachmann and Sylvia Lemus.
Jorge Just、Todd Bachmann 和 Sylvia Lemus 为制作提供帮助。
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS] To buy a cassette of this program, call us here at WBEZ in Chicago, 312-832-3380.
[鸣谢] 要购买该节目的磁带，请致电我们芝加哥的 WBEZ，电话：312-832-3380。
Or you know, you can listen to most of our programs for free on the internet at our website www.thislife.org.
或者您知道，您可以在我们的网站 www.thislife.org 上免费收听我们的大部分节目。
Thanks to Elizabeth Meister, who runs the site.
感谢该网站的运营者伊丽莎白·梅斯特 (Elizabeth Meister)。
This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International.
《美国生活》由国际公共广播电台发行。
[FUNDING CREDITS] WBEZ management oversight between Torey Malatia who says, yes, call.
[资金来源] Torey Malatia 之间的 WBEZ 管理监督，他说，是的，打电话。
Pledge all the money you want to public radio.
把你想要的所有钱都捐给公共广播电台。
Just be sure--
只要确定——
Don't pay the check.
不要支付支票。
Ira Glass I'm Ira Glass, back next week with more stories of This American Life.
艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass） 我是艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass），下周回来，带来更多《美国生活》的故事。
This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange.
《This American Life》与 WBEZ Chicago 合作制作，并由 PRX 公共广播电台传送到各电台。