The Amish
Amish Man 1: Yeah, okay.
阿米什人 1: 好的,好的。
Amish Man 1: Tell the Cameraman to get lost!
阿米什人 1:告诉摄影师滚开!
[Laughs]
[笑]
Interviewer: So tell me, I want to know first of all, about your family.
采访者:所以告诉我,我首先想了解一下你的家庭。
Interviewer: Where did they come from, and how did they get here?
采访者:他们从哪里来,又是如何来到这里的?
Amish Man 1: Oh, well when they came to America, they landed in Philadelphia, then Benjamin Franklin...
阿米什人 1:哦,好吧,当他们来到美国时,他们降落在费城,然后是本杰明·富兰克林......
Tour Guide: Welcome to the Amish farm and house, my name is Don, I'll be your tour guide today.
导游:欢迎来到阿米什农场和房子,我叫Don,今天我将担任您的导游。
Talk a bit about the Amish, and where they come from.
谈谈阿米什人以及他们来自哪里。
All goes back to the Protestant Reformation, 1517, Martin Luther...
一切都可以追溯到1517年的新教改革,马丁·路德……
Tour Guide: We'll start over here, with the wardrobe.
导游:我们从这里开始,从衣柜开始。
Up to the age of one year old, a little girl, or a little boy in the Amish community will wear something like this.
阿米什社区的小女孩或小男孩一岁之前都会穿这样的衣服。
Tourist 1: Why is it that the fashion seems to frozen in time, and yet they're wearing flip-flops?
游客1:为什么时尚仿佛凝固了,而他们却穿着人字拖?
Tourist 2: Is there an identity as Americans, or...
游客2:有没有美国人的身份,或者……
Tour Guide: I'm sure the Amish would see themselves that way.
导游:我确信阿米什人会这样看待自己。
They're not always seen that way by the surrounding community, and sometimes there's a little friction!
周围社区并不总是这样看待他们,有时还会产生一些摩擦!
They won't fly the flag, they won't pledge allegiance, they won't...
他们不会悬挂国旗,他们不会宣誓效忠,他们不会......
you know, they don't vote on a regular basis.
你知道,他们不定期投票。
Tour Bus Guide: Now look at these homes.
旅游巴士指南:现在看看这些房屋。
All these homes on both sides, and the Amish are working on the roof up there.
两边都是这些房屋,阿米什人正在那里的屋顶上工作。
These are all Amish homes....
这些都是阿米什人的家......
You want to get pictures?
你想要照片吗?
I'll just hold it a minute.
我就等一下。
You can get the pictures you'd like to have.
您可以获得您想要的照片。
Amish people do not want you to take their photograph up close.
阿米什人不希望你近距离拍摄他们的照片。
They believe it breaks the second of the Ten Commandments.
他们认为这违反了十诫中的第二条。
When we're riding along, and they're out in the field or along the road, that's all fine.
当我们骑行时,他们在田野里或在路上,那都很好。
Slate: There are more than 250,000 Amish in the United States.: Nearly 20 million tourists visit Amish communities every year.
Slate:美国有超过25万阿米什人。:每年有近2000万游客参观阿米什社区。
Amish Man 2: It's a mystery to me, why they come by the millions to look at us.
阿米什人 2:对我来说,这是一个谜,为什么他们会有数百万人来看我们。
I guess it's the simple life, and the cute kids in the buggy and the cows in the pasture...
我想这就是简单的生活,还有马车里可爱的孩子和牧场上的奶牛......
and it's all visual.
这都是视觉的。
But anybody's kids are cute.
但谁家的孩子都是可爱的。
Is it any different, say, than going to Disney World, or Yellowstone Park?
比方说,这与去迪士尼世界或黄石公园有什么不同吗?
Is it any different from that?
与此有什么不同吗?
For the tourist?
为了游客?
Are they yearning for something?
他们是否渴望某样东西?
Are they seekers?
他们是探索者吗?
Tour Bus Guide: Now the Germans came here, and they said, this looks like Germany, so we're gonna stay.
旅游巴士导游:现在德国人来到这里,他们说,这里看起来像德国,所以我们要留下来。
They did.
他们做到了。
They didn't know it at the time, but this is the best soil in America.
他们当时并不知道,这是美国最好的土壤。
Down here on the left, is an Amish farmer...
左边是一位阿米什农民……
Amish Man 3: The Amish people are the so called salt of the Earth.
阿米什人 3:阿米什人被称为地球之盐。
And I'm not saying that we are, I'm just saying that we're supposed to be.
我并不是说我们是,我只是说我们应该是。
And if we go back to Genesis, and the beginning of the Bible, why, we soon realize that man was driven out of the Garden of Eden, out on the land, and there he was to serve his time.
如果我们回到《创世记》和《圣经》的开头,我们很快就会意识到,人类被赶出伊甸园,来到陆地上,在那里服刑。
And work the soil, with the sweat of his brow.
并用额头上的汗水耕作土壤。
When a man is working the soil, he is as close to God as he can get.
当一个人在土地上耕作时,他就与上帝最接近了。
That's the closest you can get to God, working the soil.
耕种土壤是你最接近上帝的方式。
And now we live in days where 85 percent of our people are no longer on the soil.
现在,我们生活在 85% 的人民不再生活在土地上的时代。
So now what do we do?
那么现在我们该怎么办?
Amish Farmer: Probably four and a half's okay.
阿米什农民:大概四个半就可以了。
It's just that one row was extra thick there.
只是那里有一排特别粗。
Farmhand: Yeah.
农场工人:是的。
Well, we were stacking that one up, because we thought we were gonna run outta wagon!
好吧,我们把那个堆起来,因为我们认为我们的马车会用完!
Amish Man 4: In 1923, my great-grandfather purchased this farm.
阿米什人 4:1923 年,我的曾祖父购买了这个农场。
And it's been in our family since that time.
从那时起它就一直在我们家里。
We're the fourth generation, our children would be the fifth generation.
我们是第四代,我们的孩子将是第五代。
Dad was kind of thinking of winding down, and I was undecided.
爸爸有点想放松一下,而我却犹豫不决。
But I started sensing that I was being drawn back to the farm.
但我开始感觉到我被吸引回农场了。
I saw that Dad needed some help.
我看到爸爸需要一些帮助。
So, that's kind of how that started.
所以,事情就是这样开始的。
And even when I started, I wasn't sure, you know, if I wanted to do this.
甚至当我开始时,我也不确定,你知道,我是否想这样做。
I wouldn't recommend it to young guys who aren't married.
我不会向未婚的年轻人推荐它。
I certainly wouldn't be at it for 25 or 30 years like I am now, without having a wife and children.
如果没有妻子和孩子,我肯定不会像现在这样干 25 或 30 年。
Amish Man 4: My desire is that we can raise sons and daughters for the Lord.
阿米什人 4:我的愿望是我们能为主养育儿女。
Whatever occupations they may choose, that's not...
无论他们选择什么职业,那都不是......
that's secondary.
那是次要的。
And yeah, it would be ideal if he would step in, take over the farm here in ten years.
是的,如果十年后他能介入并接管这里的农场,那就太理想了。
But it's very, way too premature to say that's what's going to happen.
但现在说这将会发生还为时过早。
So we'll just take it a day at a time, a year at a time, and see what happens.
所以我们会一天一天,一年一年,看看会发生什么。
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: The Amish sense, is that God's followers, the faithful, are going to be a small number.
人类学家约翰逊-韦纳:阿米什人的感觉是,上帝的追随者、忠实的人将是少数。
And they are passing through this world, and the world is an evil place.
而他们正在路过这个世界,而这个世界是一个邪恶的地方。
David Weaver-Zercher, Historian: In 16th century European life, the Anabaptists were unique because they believed in "Believer's Baptism," that is baptism as an adult, but what that really symbolizes is the understanding that making a Christian commitment and joining the church is something that you can only do voluntarily.
David Weaver-Zercher,历史学家:在16世纪的欧洲生活中,再洗礼派是独一无二的,因为他们相信“信徒的洗礼”,即成人的洗礼,但这真正象征的是一种理解,即做出基督教承诺并加入教会是你只能自愿做的事情。
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: And that put them at odds with the state.
社会学家克雷比尔:这使他们与国家产生了分歧。
Baptism, adult baptism was a capital offense, and they got the medieval equivalent of the electric chair.
洗礼,成人洗礼是死罪,他们会得到相当于中世纪电椅的刑罚。
Two thousand to 3,000 died as martyrs.
两千至三千人殉难。
The government appointed Anabaptist hunters that would go out, looking for them, so they would hold services in caves, hold services in the woods at night, and basically became an underground movement.
政府任命重洗派猎人出去寻找他们,所以他们会在洞穴里举行仪式,晚上在树林里举行仪式,基本上变成了地下运动。
And that has really stayed in the DNA of Amish culture and Amish history.
这确实留在了阿米什文化和阿米什历史的 DNA 中。
It's not unlike slavery for African Americans.
这与非裔美国人的奴隶制没有什么不同。
It's not unlike the Holocaust for Jews.
这与犹太人的大屠杀没有什么不同。
So there's this sense of being a separated people, of being a minority people, of being cautious about what the outside world might do to you again.
因此,有一种作为一个孤立的民族、作为少数群体的感觉,对外界可能再次对你做的事情保持谨慎的感觉。
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: They're in our world, but they're not part of our world.
约翰逊-韦纳,人类学家:他们在我们的世界中,但他们不是我们世界的一部分。
They're in the world, but not of it.
他们存在于这个世界,但又不属于这个世界。
And that's what they want to be.
这就是他们想要的。
They are working together to actively live according to Christ's teachings.
他们共同努力,积极按照基督的教义生活。
And the majority of the world is not doing that.
而世界上大多数国家并没有这样做。
So the sense is that, "We are pilgrims passing through this world, on the way to the eternal world.
所以意思是,“我们是路过这个世界,走向永恒世界的朝圣者。
We don't get attached to this world; we don't get attached to the things of this world.
我们不执着于这个世界;我们不会执着于这个世界的事物。
We do our best, we try to serve God, and then we hope that will mean we are worthy of salvation."
我们尽力而为,努力侍奉上帝,然后我们希望这意味着我们值得救赎。”
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: Baptism is a very important step.
社会学家克雷比尔:洗礼是非常重要的一步。
It's probably the most important decision they will make in their life.
这可能是他们一生中做出的最重要的决定。
They are on their bended knees, and they're making this lifelong pledge to God that they will stick with the Christian faith and they will stick with the Amish church for the rest of their life.
他们跪下,向上帝许下终生的誓言,他们将坚持基督教信仰,并在余生中坚持阿米什教会。
It's an enduring commitment.
这是一个持久的承诺。
Amish Teen 1: I was standing in the kitchen, and my dad came up the stairs and came over to me and was like, "You know, you make me the happiest dad in the world." And put his arm around me, and gave me a hug.
阿米什青少年 1:我站在厨房里,我爸爸走上楼梯,走过来对我说:“你知道,你让我成为世界上最幸福的爸爸。”他用手臂搂住我,给了我一个拥抱。
And I was all confused, because I didn't know what he was talking about.
我很困惑,因为我不知道他在说什么。
He was like, "I didn't know you were going to join church this fall!" And I was like, "Oh.
他说:“我不知道你今年秋天要加入教会!”我当时想,“哦。
Yeah.
是的。
I guess I am!" He's happy that I'm joining church, and -- then it made me really happy too.
我想我就是!”他很高兴我加入教会,而且——这也让我很高兴。
I tried to tell myself, you know, during the service that, "It's just any normal church, I don't have to be nervous." But if I let myself think about it, and think of every step, I kinda get nervous.
在礼拜期间,我试图告诉自己,“这只是任何正常的教堂,我不必紧张。”但如果我让自己思考,思考每一步,我就会有点紧张。
When I was kneeling down on the floor, I remember thinking my feet hurt because I was sitting on them.
当我跪在地板上时,我记得我的脚很痛,因为我坐在上面。
And then I was like, "Man, all these people are praying for me." and just, wow!
然后我就想,“伙计,所有这些人都在为我祈祷。”只是,哇!
It just felt good.
感觉很好。
And I'm still down on my knees, and then one of the ministers brings the bucket of water and cups their hands above my head, and he says, "I baptize you in the name of the father," and then they pour water, "Son," pours more, and then "the Holy Ghost." I remember thinking "Whoa, there's a lot of water in my lap!" And then I'm baptized, and then he helps me stand up and says, you know, now I'm a member of the church, and "You are no more a stranger, you're a sister in the church now." I just wanted to go...
我仍然跪着,然后一位牧师端来一桶水,双手捧在我头顶上,他说,“我奉父的名给你施洗,”然后他们倒水,“子”,倒更多,然后“圣灵”。我记得我当时想:“哇,我的腿上有很多水!”然后我受了洗,然后他扶我站起来说,你知道,现在我是教会的成员了,“你不再是陌生人,你现在是教会的姐妹了。”我只是想去...
flutter around and be happy, I guess.
我想,振作起来并感到高兴。
On the way home, I just wanted to sing.
回家的路上,我只想唱歌。
Amish Woman 1: This morning I got up at quarter 'till five, and I started getting the laundry together.
阿米什女人 1:今天早上五点一刻我起床,开始洗衣服。
Then I woke the girls at five o'clock, and they made breakfast.
然后我在五点钟叫醒女孩们,她们做早餐。
My husband gets up, and then the schoolchildren get up around 5:30.
我丈夫起床,然后学童们在 5:30 左右起床。
And by six o'clock or 6:15, we're ready for breakfast.
到了六点或六点十五分,我们就准备好吃早餐了。
This morning the girls made blueberries and pancakes and whipped cream and eggs.
今天早上,女孩们做了蓝莓、煎饼、鲜奶油和鸡蛋。
And then after breakfast we gather in the living room for devotions, which is Bible reading and singing and prayer.
早餐后,我们聚集在客厅进行灵修,包括读圣经、唱诗和祈祷。
The day wouldn't seem to start right without it.
如果没有它,这一天似乎就不会开始。
Home is the foundation for children to be taught about God and how to live, and to learn values and just everything that really goes with them later in life.
家庭是孩子们学习上帝、如何生活、学习价值观以及真正与他们日后生活相关的一切的基础。
I think if we want to be a Christian and live a godly life, we have to be submissive.
我认为如果我们想成为基督徒并过敬虔的生活,我们就必须顺服。
I don't mean that I have to be doing all the work for everybody, or, you know, doing all the jobs nobody else wants to do, that's not what I'm talking about.
我并不是说我必须为每个人做所有的工作,或者,你知道,做所有其他人想做的工作,这不是我所说的。
You know, Jesus, when he was here on earth, he came and was a servant to mankind.
你知道,耶稣,当他在地球上时,他是人类的仆人。
And I think that's the example that he put forth for us.
我认为这就是他为我们提出的例子。
The more you can be a servant to other people, to your family, to your husband, to your children and others around you, I think that's the more happiness and peace of life you can have.
你越能成为别人、你的家人、你的丈夫、你的孩子和你周围的人的仆人,我认为你就能拥有更多的幸福和平静的生活。
And then we will be blessed.
然后我们就会受到祝福。
We'll feel blessed.
我们会感到很幸福。
David Weaver-Zercher, Historian: Some people talk about Amish family values, well, you know in a certain sense, the family unit is not the most important social unit in Amish life.
David Weaver-Zercher,历史学家:有些人谈论阿米什人的家庭价值观,嗯,你知道从某种意义上说,家庭单位并不是阿米什人生活中最重要的社会单位。
The Amish church is the most important social unit.
阿米什教会是最重要的社会单位。
And though most Americans, Christians who are involved in the church and take their church seriously, say they really value their church, it's a very different sort of understanding of what role that church plays in your life.
尽管大多数美国人,即参与教会并认真对待教会的基督徒,都说他们真的很重视教会,但对于教会在你的生活中扮演的角色,这是一种非常不同的理解。
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: The Amish basically see individuals as weak.
约翰逊-韦纳,人类学家:阿米什人基本上认为个人是弱者。
It's only by joining with others in the church, by really giving yourself up to the church, by trusting that together that we'll gain the strength to lead a worthy life.
只有与教会中的其他人一起加入,真正将自己奉献给教会,相信我们在一起才能获得力量,过上有价值的生活。
It's only by doing that that you can hope to be worthy of salvation.
只有这样做,你才有希望获得救赎。
Amish Man 1: I just remember going to church and sitting in the back of the carriage, and we'd go to church.
阿米什人 1:我只记得去教堂,坐在马车后面,然后我们就去教堂。
And mom would put on my straw hat, and my black coat, and my shoes, and I'd sit in the back with my sisters, my two sisters, and we'd go to church.
妈妈会戴上我的草帽、黑色外套和鞋子,我会和我的姐妹,我的两个姐妹坐在后面,然后我们去教堂。
And there's 175 districts in Lancaster County, give or take one or two, and we all have church every two weeks.
兰开斯特县有 175 个区,大约有一两个,我们每两周就有一次教堂。
We did that ever since the 1740s, when the first Amish services were held in America.
自 1740 年代以来,我们就这样做了,当时第一届阿米什人礼拜仪式在美国举行。
Gertrude Schlabach, Former Amish: You had to go to church.
格特鲁德·施拉巴赫(Gertrude Schlabach),前阿米什人:你必须去教堂。
You went to church unless you were almost deathly sick.
除非你病得快要死了,否则你会去教堂。
In the summertime they'd have it in the barn.
夏天他们会把它放在谷仓里。
In the wintertime, they'd clear out all of the furniture out of the rooms and set up benches.
冬天的时候,他们会把房间里的所有家具都清理掉,然后搭上长凳。
The ministers would make the start to go in, and then the older men, then the older women, and then the girls.
牧师们会先进去,然后是年长的男人,然后是年长的女人,最后是女孩们。
The boys got to sit in the back, and they got to come in last.
男孩们必须坐在后面,而且他们必须最后进来。
And then you sat down, and then somebody would start singing the slow German songs.
然后你坐下来,然后有人开始唱缓慢的德国歌曲。
It was all in German.
全部都是德语。
And one of the ministers would get up and preach.
其中一位牧师会站起来讲道。
They were not permitted to have any notes, at all.
他们根本不被允许有任何笔记。
Everything had to be from memory.
一切都必须来自记忆。
Steven M.
史蒂文·M.
Nolt, Historian: Church isn't just something you go to on Sunday mornings, it's not just a place to receive sacraments, it's not just somewhere to assure your future in Heaven.
诺尔特,历史学家:教堂不仅仅是你周日早上去的地方,它不仅仅是一个接受圣礼的地方,它不仅仅是一个保证你在天堂的未来的地方。
But it's an everyday reality, today, that attends to your social and physical needs as well as your spiritual needs.
但这是今天的日常现实,它满足您的社交和身体需求以及精神需求。
Amish Man 1: We go to church to increase our chance of salvation.
阿米什人 1:我们去教堂是为了增加得救的机会。
We go to church to fellowship with other people.
我们去教堂是为了与其他人团契。
"Did you hear about Henry?
“你听说过亨利的事吗?
He bought that farm next door to Joe's place." And "Did you see the runaway yesterday?
他买下了乔家隔壁的那个农场。” “你昨天看到那个逃亡者了吗?
Those horses ran off." And "Did you hear about what's going to happen next week?
那些马跑掉了。” “你听说下周会发生什么吗?
Jake Fisher wants to set up his barn." And there'll be some youngster saying that "the Philadelphia Eagles did this or did that." "Did you hear that Levi Fisher's had another baby, and it's a boy?
杰克·费舍尔想建立他的谷仓。”会有一些年轻人说“费城老鹰队做了这个或做了那个”。 “你听说利维·费舍尔又生了一个孩子,而且是个男孩吗?
Now they have seven boys." And missus so-and-so had another baby, and it's a girl.
现在他们有七个男孩了。”某某太太又生了一个孩子,是个女孩。
Now they have five girls.
现在他们有五个女孩。
You can practically see, fairly well, every two weeks, if that family's happy or not.
实际上,你每两周就可以看到那个家庭是否幸福。
We're very transparent.
我们非常透明。
We see practically everything everybody does.
我们几乎看到每个人所做的一切。
"Unusual Occupations" series [archival, voice over]: Paradise!
《不寻常的职业》系列【档案、画外音】:天堂!
The heavenly name of a town in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
宾夕法尼亚州兰开斯特县的一个小镇的天堂名字。
Home of the people known as "the Amish." Now here's one place in the United States where the automobile is considered a needless luxury.
人们的家园被称为“阿米什人”。现在,在美国,汽车被认为是一种不必要的奢侈品。
For 250 years, the Amish have never changed location, mode of living, manner of dress, or type of occupation, which is farming.
250年来,阿米什人从未改变过居住地、生活方式、着装方式或从事农业的职业类型。
Single men shave, married men wear beards.
单身男人刮胡子,已婚男人留胡子。
The mustache is out.
小胡子都出来了
Public telephones contact the outside world, but there are no phones in the homes.
公用电话与外界联系,但家里没有电话。
Women wear white bonnets on weekdays, black ones on Sundays.
妇女在工作日戴白色帽子,周日戴黑色帽子。
Buttons are considered frivolous, so pins are used instead.
按钮被认为是无聊的,所以用别针代替。
The Amish religion governs every phase of life, even to dress...
阿米什宗教统治着生活的各个阶段,甚至是衣着......
and blue is the popular color...
蓝色是流行的颜色...
Saloma Furlong, Former Amish: Men were supposed to have hats with at least so many inches of brim on the hat.
萨洛玛·弗隆(Saloma Furlong),前阿米什人:男人应该戴帽子,帽檐上至少有这么多英寸。
They were supposed to wear vests when they were out visiting, they could wear buttons on their shirts, that were, you know, that weren't too fancy.
他们出去拜访时应该穿背心,他们可以在衬衫上系纽扣,你知道,那不是太花哨。
And the women had to wear coverings.
妇女必须戴上被子。
I don't remember how he measured that, was it was how big the covering should be, or how much of the hair should be covered, but something to that effect.
我不记得他是如何测量的,是覆盖物应该有多大,或者应该覆盖多少头发,但有一些与此相关的东西。
Dresses should be at least halfway between the knees and the ankles.
连衣裙的长度至少应在膝盖和脚踝之间。
They shouldn't wear colors that were not allowed in the community.
他们不应该穿着社区不允许的颜色。
Pink or red, or any of those really bright colors were not allowed.
粉色、红色或任何非常鲜艳的颜色都是不允许的。
The Amish go over those rules, over and over again, every six months.
阿米什人每六个月就会一遍又一遍地检查这些规则。
It's a way of sort of maintaining that religion.
这是维持这种宗教的一种方式。
And it keeps people thinking the Amish way.
它让人们以阿米什人的方式思考。
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: The Ordnung is the discipline of the church.
约翰逊-维纳,人类学家:秩序是教会的纪律。
It tells people, what you should be doing, basically, and how you should be doing it, and what's off limits.
它告诉人们,基本上你应该做什么,应该如何做,以及什么是禁止的。
What kind of behavior is off limits, what kinds of material goods are off limits.
什么样的行为是禁止的,什么样的物质物品是禁止的。
You know, how you can interact with the world, and with whom in the world you can interact.
你知道,你如何与世界互动,以及你可以与世界上的谁互动。
Amish Woman 2: To me, it's a way of life that protects, protects me from some of the outside things that I would definitely get into if I wouldn't have the boundaries.
阿米什女人 2:对我来说,这是一种生活方式,可以保护我免受一些外部事物的影响,如果我没有界限,我肯定会陷入其中。
I'd like to have a camera.
我想要一台相机。
But I usually don't feel that it's worth it, worth it for me to throw everything else away for a few things that I'd like to have.
但我通常觉得不值得,为了一些我想要拥有的东西而放弃一切对我来说是不值得的。
The church sets boundaries.
教会设定界限。
They don't feel that it helps you walk a Christ-like life.
他们认为这并不能帮助你过上像基督一样的生活。
So if I would get some of those things, I would feel guilty.
所以如果我得到其中一些东西,我会感到内疚。
Because I've promised to help build the church and not have these things.
因为我已经答应帮助建造教会,但不会拥有这些东西。
David Weaver-Zercher, Historian: Very early on, church discipline was important because in a time of persecution and trial, it was the way that you kept people from easily discarding the faith.
David Weaver-Zercher,历史学家:很早就,教会纪律很重要,因为在迫害和考验的时期,这是防止人们轻易放弃信仰的方式。
The church was there not just to encourage you, and not just to help you think about what might be right; the church was there to actually provide discipline, and to warn you if you were on the wrong track.
教会的存在不仅是为了鼓励你,也不仅仅是为了帮助你思考什么是正确的;它也是为了帮助你。教会的存在实际上是为了提供纪律,并在你走错路时警告你。
Amish Man 5: We haven't bought into American consumerism!
阿米什人 5:我们还没有接受美国的消费主义!
Staying with the horse, for instance, has determined the distance we travel.
例如,与马呆在一起决定了我们行驶的距离。
It's preserved all the small towns, that's where we go to do business.
它保留了所有的小镇,那是我们做生意的地方。
You go outside Amish communities in the Midwest and small towns are all dying, because there's a Walmart on the outskirts siphoning all of that money out of that community, and overnight into Arkansas.
你走出中西部的阿米什社区,所有的小镇都在消亡,因为郊区有一家沃尔玛,从该社区抽走所有的钱,并在一夜之间流入阿肯色州。
By not having electricity, imagine all the aisles I don't have to walk down in a department store!
想象一下,如果没有电,我就不必走遍百货公司的所有过道了!
Aisles of hair blowers, and dryers, and toasters, and all that.
过道里摆满了吹风机、吹风机、烤面包机等等。
Hey!
嘿!
I don't have to walk down that, that's liberation!
我不必走下去,那就是解放!
I don't have to make many decisions, the community has made the decisions.
我不必做出很多决定,社区已经做出了决定。
To me, that's liberation.
对我来说,这就是解放。
Saloma Furlong, Former Amish: It's all part of not ever questioning any part of the culture.
萨洛玛·弗隆(Saloma Furlong),前阿米什人:这就是永远不要质疑文化的任何部分的一部分。
And I could never do that.
我永远做不到。
I was always asking, "Why can we hire taxi drivers to take us to Middlefield to buy our groceries, but I'm not allowed to have a bicycle that would pedal me there to get my own groceries on my own?" My mother would say to me, "Oh Saloma, you would just be so much better off, if you didn't ask these questions." So there would be no answer.
我总是问,“为什么我们可以雇出租车司机带我们去米德尔菲尔德买杂货,但我却不能骑自行车去那里自己买杂货?”我母亲会对我说:“哦,萨洛玛,如果你不问这些问题,你的生活会好得多。”所以不会有答案。
Amish Woman 2: I can remember feeling, feeling that this is what I want.
阿米什女人 2:我记得感觉,感觉这就是我想要的。
Like I can remember the night that I feel I accepted Christ.
就像我记得那天晚上我觉得我接受了基督一样。
I was outside.
我在外面。
I was walking.
我正在走路。
Yeah.
是的。
It's almost too personal to talk about.
这几乎太个人化了,无法谈论。
But there were some things that I had done that I knew weren't right, and I just remember crying out to God, and it just seemed like I was just flying.
但我做了一些我知道是不对的事情,我只记得向上帝呼喊,而我似乎只是在飞翔。
I could just...
我可以只是...
I was so free, you know I just knew God had forgiven me.
我是如此自由,你知道我只知道上帝已经原谅了我。
Just knew he had.
只知道他有。
I felt that saving grace.
我感受到了那种拯救的恩典。
And yeah, I just felt that I could -- I think I could live this life.
是的,我只是觉得我可以——我想我可以过这样的生活。
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: I think the first 100 years, from the mid-18th- to the mid-19th century, the Amish felt more at home here.
社会学家克雷比尔:我认为从 18 世纪中叶到 19 世纪中叶的前 100 年,阿米什人在这里感到更加自在。
David Weaver-Zercher, Historian: Amish people shared a lot of lifestyle similarities with people who were not Amish.
历史学家 David Weaver-Zercher:阿米什人与非阿米什人有很多生活方式相似之处。
So they were living in a largely Pennsylvania German culture, where people spoke Pennsylvania German, or Pennsylvania Dutch.
因此,他们生活在很大程度上是宾夕法尼亚德国文化中,人们说宾夕法尼亚德语或宾夕法尼亚荷兰语。
They were farming, but many of their neighbors were farming.
他们在务农,但他们的许多邻居也在务农。
They were using horse drawn vehicles, but their neighbors were using horse drawn vehicles.
他们用的是马车,而他们的邻居也用的是马车。
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: It was with the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the fads and the fashions that were becoming available.
社会学家克雷比尔:随着工业革命的开始,时尚和时尚开始出现。
That's what troubled the Amish mind and troubled the Amish soul.
这就是困扰阿米什人思想和灵魂的问题。
The focus in the Amish society is on the community.
阿米什社会的重点是社区。
Always on the community.
始终关注社区。
In American life, the focus is on the individual.
在美国人的生活中,重点是个人。
Getting ahead, freedom of individual choice, making a name for yourself, self achievement.
出人头地、个人选择的自由、为自己出名、自我成就。
All of those are in direct opposition to key values of the Amish way of life.
所有这些都与阿米什生活方式的关键价值观背道而驰。
Humility, community, cooperation, putting yourself under the church, and the authority of the church.
谦卑、团体、合作、将自己置于教会和教会的权威之下。
And so that is the big wedge between these two different ways of life.
这就是这两种不同生活方式之间的最大分歧。
The first item of technology that created an issue was the telephone.
第一个引起问题的技术是电话。
Because if you have a phone and you can call, why visit?
因为如果您有电话并且可以打电话,为什么还要去拜访呢?
Why go and see the person?
为什么要去见那个人?
It connected them to the outside world.
它将他们与外部世界联系起来。
It meant that outsiders could come into their home, into their kitchen, via the telephone.
这意味着外人可以通过电话进入他们的家、进入他们的厨房。
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: And that is a principal that the Amish have used with a lot of technological developments, to have some kind of a firewall between you and the technology, but yet use it and access it.
社会学家克雷比尔:这是阿米什人在许多技术发展中使用的原则,在你和技术之间建立某种防火墙,但仍然使用它并访问它。
The main core of Amish motivation is to keep the local church together.
阿米什人动机的主要核心是保持地方教会的团结。
If you give someone the keys to the car, they're going to go off to the city.
如果你给某人车钥匙,他们就会去城里。
Young people go off and get jobs.
年轻人出去寻找工作。
So to the Amish way of thinking, the car will fragment our community; it will splinter the community; it will pull us apart.
因此,按照阿米什人的思维方式,汽车将分裂我们的社区;它将分裂社区;它会让我们分开。
Archival [voice over]: Now electricity does the chores for the Farmer's wife.
档案[画外音]:现在电力为农夫的妻子做家务了。
David Weaver-Zercher, Historian: If a technology is necessary, then okay, that's one thing, but if it's making life more convenient and making life easier, that doesn't seem like a real good reason to get something.
David Weaver-Zercher,历史学家:如果一项技术是必要的,那么好吧,这是一回事,但如果它让生活变得更方便、让生活更轻松,那似乎就不是获得某种技术的真正充分理由。
In fact, working hard, and having our time taken up in labor, as opposed to leisure, that's probably the better way to err.
事实上,努力工作,把时间花在劳动上,而不是休闲上,这可能是更好的错误方式。
I think in the early 20th century there is a whole lot of thinking that industrialization and technology and progress are going to make lives easier, and make lives better.
我认为在 20 世纪初,人们普遍认为工业化、技术和进步将使生活变得更轻松、更美好。
For the Amish to dig in their heels when this promise of a better life is coming along, makes them quite strange.
对于阿米什人来说,当美好生活的承诺即将到来时,他们却坚持不懈,这让他们感到很奇怪。
Strange in the worst sorts of ways.
以最糟糕的方式来说很奇怪。
I think people saw their backwardness as an embarrassing part of American life.
我认为人们将自己的落后视为美国生活中令人尴尬的一部分。
By the 1920s and 1930s, the consensus is that we're probably seeing the last generation of people living like this.
到了 20 年代和 1930 年代,人们普遍认为我们可能会看到最后一代人过着这样的生活。
Gertrude Huntington, Anthropologist: I was studying at Yale, and I decided, maybe I can work on the Amish.
格特鲁德·亨廷顿,人类学家:我在耶鲁大学学习,我决定,也许我可以研究阿米什人。
My professors thought it would be good if I documented them before they died out.
我的教授们认为,如果我在它们消失之前将它们记录下来就好了。
Everybody I had interviewed had said only negative things about them.
我采访过的每个人都只说了一些负面的话。
It was just after World War II.
那是第二次世界大战刚刚结束。
They were pacifists, so they hadn't gone into the army.
他们是和平主义者,所以没有参军。
Their neighbors had lost sons in the war.
他们的邻居在战争中失去了儿子。
So they didn't like them because they didn't go to war.
所以他们不喜欢他们,因为他们没有参加战争。
They didn't like them because they didn't want paved roads.
他们不喜欢它们,因为他们不想要铺好的道路。
They didn't like them because they didn't want electricity.
他们不喜欢它们,因为他们不需要电。
And electricity was just coming into this rural area.
这个农村地区刚刚通电。
And they didn't like them because they didn't want telephones.
他们不喜欢它们,因为他们不想要电话。
And if your neighbors would get a telephone, it didn't cost you as much to have a telephone line in.
如果你的邻居有电话,你就不需要花那么多钱安装电话线。
And they wouldn't do that.
他们不会那样做。
So there was no reason to like them.
所以没有理由喜欢他们。
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: The Amish would say they are Americans.
社会学家克雷比尔:阿米什人会说他们是美国人。
They are citizens.
他们是公民。
They pay their taxes.
他们缴纳税款。
But they also keep the world at a distance.
但他们也与世界保持距离。
They see the world being based on force.
他们认为世界是基于武力的。
They see their church community being based on love and nonviolence and patience.
他们认为他们的教会社区是建立在爱、非暴力和耐心的基础上的。
Amish Man 5: I love this country.
阿米什人 5:我爱这个国家。
We have a country of great people.
我们有一个拥有伟大人民的国家。
But the kingdom of heaven comes first.
但天国是第一位的。
This trend in America, "Love America or leave it," you wave the flag.
美国的这种趋势,“要么爱美国,要么离开它”,你挥舞着旗帜。
The flag is fine, but we're the only nation in the world that worships the flag.
国旗很好,但我们是世界上唯一崇拜国旗的国家。
It's weird.
很奇怪。
It's very heathen.
这是非常异教徒的。
The kingdom we live in, we pledge our allegiance to God, and not the flag.
在我们生活的王国里,我们宣誓效忠的是上帝,而不是国旗。
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: The Amish shape themselves by rejecting us.
约翰逊-韦纳,人类学家:阿米什人通过拒绝我们来塑造自己。
And that's hard to get around if you're the group that's being rejected.
如果你是被拒绝的群体,那就很难回避。
I mean, they don't want to be like us.
我的意思是,他们不想像我们一样。
News Anchor 1 [archival]: Steve, a shooting has been reported at an elementary school in Lancaster County...
新闻主播 1 [档案]:史蒂夫,兰卡斯特县一所小学发生枪击事件……
News Anchor 2 [archival]: Lancaster County, number of people killed in a shooting, at a one-room Amish schoolhouse today, that word from a state trooper...
新闻主播 2 [档案]:兰卡斯特县,今天在一所只有一个房间的阿米什校舍发生枪击事件,造成多少人死亡,这是一名州警的话……
News Reporter 1 [archival]: People are gathering now, near the crime scene, blocked off by state police, investigating the carnage here in Lancaster...
新闻记者 1 [档案]:人们现在聚集在犯罪现场附近,被州警察封锁,调查兰开斯特的大屠杀......
Jeffrey Miller [archival]: Good afternoon.
杰弗里·米勒[档案]:下午好。
My name is Col.
我的名字是上校。
Jeffrey B.
杰弗里·B.
Miller, I'm the Commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police.
米勒,我是宾夕法尼亚州警察局长。
With me is Mr. Don Totaro, the Lancaster County District Attorney...
和我在一起的是兰开斯特县地方检察官唐·托塔罗先生……
Jeffrey Miller, State Police Commissioner: When we landed there, and walked around the fence, the first thing I saw were the troopers that came to greet me.
州警察局长杰弗里·米勒:当我们降落在那里并绕过栅栏时,我首先看到的是前来迎接我的警察。
And some of them had blood all over their clothing...
有的人衣服上沾满了血……
Over their uniforms, so you knew that it was not going to be a good scene to survey.
他们穿着制服,所以你知道这不会是一个值得观察的好场景。
Jeffrey Miller, State Police Commissioner [archival]: The call came in from a schoolteacher, stating a male entered the school, and had taken hostages.
州警察局长杰弗里·米勒(Jeffrey Miller)[档案]:电话来自一名学校老师,称一名男子进入学校并劫持了人质。
He apparently told the kids to line up in front of the blackboard.
他显然告诉孩子们在黑板前排队。
He began to tie the females, the children's, feet together.
他开始把女性和儿童的脚绑在一起。
He then took the boys; there was exactly 15 boys there, between six and 13.
然后他带着孩子们;那里正好有 15 个男孩,年龄在 6 岁到 13 岁之间。
He let them leave.
他让他们离开。
Jeffrey Miller, State Police Commissioner: Within 20 minutes of that call, we had troopers surrounding the school.
州警察局长杰弗里·米勒:接到电话后 20 分钟内,警察包围了学校。
And they were just breaking down the front door, and that's when the shooter looked and saw that the trooper was coming through the window, and was going to kill him.
他们刚刚破开前门,就在那时,枪手看到警察正从窗户进来,准备杀了他。
He turned the gun on himself.
他把枪口对准了自己。
But he had already shot every single one of those girls.
但他已经枪杀了那些女孩中的每一个。
Mother of Victim (Amish Woman 3): It was about 11:15, when we found out about, what's going on.
受害者的母亲(阿米什妇女 3):大约 11 点 15 分,我们才得知发生了什么事。
We didn't know if she's in a hospital somewhere.
我们不知道她是否在某处医院。
Or if she's at the school, because we knew there were some at the school that had died.
或者如果她在学校,因为我们知道学校里有一些人死了。
Those five hours were a very long time, to not know whether our daughter had survived or not.
这五个小时是一段很长的时间,不知道我们的女儿是否还活着。
Janice Ballenger, Assistant Coroner: The families were obviously very distraught, not knowing where their children were, were their children alive, dead, they didn't know.
Janice Ballenger,助理验尸官:这些家庭显然非常心烦意乱,不知道他们的孩子在哪里,他们的孩子是活着还是死了,他们不知道。
We didn't know who was who.
我们不知道谁是谁。
The girls all wear the plain dresses.
女孩们都穿着朴素的衣服。
They don't have any ID on them.
他们身上没有任何身份证件。
Had they had things that children wear in public schools, I mean, even these -- the young ones now have cell phones, and backpacks and things.
如果他们有公立学校孩子们穿的东西,我的意思是,即使是这些——年轻人现在也有手机、背包之类的东西。
And these children did not have anything like that.
而这些孩子却没有这样的东西。
There was no way to even begin to try to identify them.
甚至无法尝试识别它们。
Mother of Victim (Amish Woman 3): We were so ready to find out where she's at, if she survived, we just wanted to know.
受害者的母亲(阿米什妇女 3):我们非常想知道她在哪里,如果她还活着,我们只是想知道。
The hardest part was coming home, and telling the ones at home that she's gone.
最困难的部分是回家并告诉家里的人她走了。
Jeffrey Miller, State Police Commissioner [archival]: We have identified the suspect; we have a positive ID on him.
州警察局长杰弗里·米勒(Jeffrey Miller)[档案]:我们已经确定了嫌疑人的身份;我们有他的身份证件。
His name is Charles Karl Roberts the fourth.
他的名字叫查尔斯·卡尔·罗伯茨四世。
He's 32 years of age, and he resides in Bart, Pennsylvania, which is very close to here.
他今年 32 岁,住在宾夕法尼亚州巴特,离这里很近。
He is a truck driver, drives a tanker truck, works the night shift...
他是一名卡车司机,开油罐车,上夜班……
Dwight Lefever, Pastor to the Roberts Family: It was a very, very difficult place, and a very desperate place, and in the middle of that situation, eight, nine o'clock that evening, the Amish neighbor walked in.
德怀特·勒菲弗(Dwight Lefever),罗伯茨家族的牧师:那是一个非常非常困难的地方,也是一个非常绝望的地方,在这种情况下,那天晚上八点、九点,阿米什邻居走了进来。
And one of the things that I share with people who I've been able to talk with, that, in a sense, grace walked in the door.
我与那些与我交谈过的人分享的一件事是,从某种意义上说,恩典走进了门。
And with grace walking in the door, hope walked in the door.
随着恩典走进门,希望也走进门。
And we didn't know it at the time, but that's what happened, that was the effect of him coming, and saying, "Chuck --" specifically, Charlie's dad, "-- we will forgive you."
我们当时并不知道,但这就是发生的事情,这就是他过来的结果,并说:“查克——”特别是查理的爸爸,“——我们会原谅你。”
Mother of Victim (Amish Woman 3): To me, when I think of forgiving, it doesn't mean that you have forgotten what he's done.
受害者的母亲(阿米什妇女 3):对我来说,当我想到宽恕时,并不意味着你已经忘记了他所做的事情。
But it means that you have released unto God the one who has offended you.
但这意味着你已经把冒犯你的人交给神了。
And you have given up your right to seek revenge.
而且你已经放弃了寻求报复的权利。
I place the situation in God's hands and just accept that this is the way it was.
我把情况交到上帝手中,并接受事实就是这样。
And I choose not to hold it against Charles because it really doesn't help me anything anyway .
我选择不去反对查尔斯,因为无论如何这对我没有任何帮助。
Father of Victim (Amish Man 6): Somebody told us, invited us to go to Charlie's burial.
受害者的父亲(阿米什人6):有人告诉我们,邀请我们去参加查理的葬礼。
And first I said, "Nah [sigh] I just don't think I could.
首先我说,“不,[叹气]我只是觉得我做不到。
I don't think I want to." But the Saturday morning came around, and we decided, "Ok, Yeah.
我想我不想。”但到了周六早上,我们决定,“好吧,是的。
We want to go." And I came home from the burial thinking, I was so thankful to God that I don't need to make a judgment on his soul.
我们想去。”当我从葬礼中回到家时,我想,我非常感谢上帝,我不需要对他的灵魂做出判断。
And there was just a wash of peace.
周围一片平静。
For me it was like unloading baggage.
对我来说,这就像卸下行李。
It was just like, "Wow.
就像,“哇。
I don't need to deal with this.
我不需要处理这个。
This is God's territory."
这是神的领地。”
Steven M.
史蒂文·M.
Nolt, Historian: Forgiveness requires giving something up, giving up your right to revenge, giving up feelings of bitterness, whatever you define it.
历史学家诺尔特:宽恕需要放弃一些东西,放弃你复仇的权利,放弃痛苦的感觉,无论你如何定义它。
For the Amish, that means that it is of a piece with so many other aspects of their life, because all of Amish life is structured around rituals of giving up, of self-surrender.
对于阿米什人来说,这意味着它与他们生活的许多其他方面息息相关,因为阿米什人的所有生活都是围绕放弃和自我投降的仪式构建的。
I think for many of the rest of us, forgiveness is a hard thing because we think it's unnatural, because it's so unlike anything else we do.
我认为对于我们其他许多人来说,宽恕是一件困难的事情,因为我们认为这是不自然的,因为它与我们所做的任何其他事情都非常不同。
We're all trained to never give up anything.
我们都受过训练,永不放弃任何事情。
For Amish people, it's hard, but it's not unnatural.
对于阿米什人来说,这很难,但并不不自然。
Mother of Victim (Amish Woman 3): Obviously, sometimes we would like to say to God, "you made a mistake!" But we're taught that God doesn't make mistakes.
受害者的母亲(阿米什女人3):显然,有时我们想对上帝说:“你犯了一个错误!”但我们被教导上帝不会犯错误。
It's a form of humbleness, in realizing that God is supreme, he's much bigger than us.
这是谦卑的一种形式,认识到上帝是至高无上的,他比我们伟大得多。
I sometimes think of it, as my soul, my soul is kneeling before God.
我有时会想,就像我的灵魂,我的灵魂跪在上帝面前。
I might be working.
我可能正在工作。
I might be washing dishes, but my soul is kneeling before God, and saying, "Thy will be done." I cry.
我可能正在洗碗,但我的灵魂跪在上帝面前,说:“愿你的旨意成就。”我哭了。
It hurts.
好痛。
Steven Ballan, Assistant Public Defender: I came into work, and my boss said to me, "Steve, there's a trial out in Morristown today, on an Amish who didn't get a building permit.
史蒂文·巴兰(Steven Ballan),助理公设辩护人:我上班时,老板对我说:“史蒂夫,今天在莫里斯敦对一名没有获得建筑许可证的阿米什人进行审判。
Here's the file, go do it." And I'm like, "What?" So I had the file, I drove up to Morristown, and I met with a young man up there, his name was Andy Miller.
文件在这儿,你去办吧。”我想,“什么?”所以我拿到了文件,我开车去了莫里斯敦,在那里我遇到了一个年轻人,他的名字叫安迪·米勒。
Steven Ballan, Assistant Public Defender: I pulled up to the courthouse, and there were 50 horse and buggies, everywhere.
Steven Ballan,助理公设辩护律师:我把车停到法院,发现到处都有 50 辆马车和马车。
I went inside, and there was no room in the courtroom.
我进去了,法庭里已经没有地方了。
News Anchor [archival]: Old time beliefs met modern laws at the Morristown municipal building Thursday, more than 75 members of a nearby Amish community came out for a case about building permits.
新闻主播[档案]:周四,在莫里斯敦市政大楼,古老的信仰与现代法律相遇,附近阿米什社区的超过 75 名成员站出来处理有关建筑许可的案件。
The Amish community says those requirements violate their freedom of religion.
阿米什社区表示,这些要求侵犯了他们的宗教自由。
Town officials say some members of the Amish community...
镇官员说阿米什社区的一些成员......
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: There are a number of aspects of the building code that are problematic.
人类学家约翰逊-韦纳:建筑规范的许多方面都存在问题。
The need for smoke detectors and now carbon monoxide detectors.
需要烟雾探测器和现在的一氧化碳探测器。
That's putting your faith in a manmade device instead of God.
这就是把你的信心放在人造装置而不是上帝身上。
What God wants to happen will happen.
神想要发生的事情就会发生。
The Amish are building their homes according to way their Ordnung says they have to build.
阿米什人正在按照他们的法令规定的方式建造他们的房屋。
If, heaven forbid, a fire comes, sweeps through the house and something terrible happens, the child will be in a better place, the people will be in a better place, they'll be with God.
如果,天保佑,火灾来了,席卷了房子,发生了可怕的事情,孩子会在一个更好的地方,人们会在一个更好的地方,他们会与上帝同在。
Theirs is not an intellectual faith; it's a lived faith.
他们的信仰不是一种理智的信仰;而是一种信仰。这是一种活生生的信仰。
In a very real way because everything they do is guided by their Ordnung , by their beliefs.
以一种非常真实的方式,因为他们所做的一切都是由他们的秩序、他们的信仰指导的。
In a way they're always in church.
在某种程度上,他们总是在教堂里。
Steven Ballan, Assistant Public Defender: We're not talking about a religion that was created yesterday, to do something that is considered illegal.
史蒂文·巴兰(Steven Ballan),助理公设辩护律师:我们谈论的不是昨天创建的宗教,它是为了做一些被认为是非法的事情。
We're talking about a religion that's been in existence, and then the law changed, to make the way they live illegal.
我们谈论的是一种已经存在的宗教,然后法律改变了,使他们的生活方式变得非法。
And I think that our country is built on a foundation that says that they should continue to be allowed to practice their religion.
我认为我们国家的基础是应该继续允许他们信奉自己的宗教。
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: For the Amish, there's this real sense that persecution comes as a kind of test of the faith.
约翰逊-韦纳,人类学家:对于阿米什人来说,迫害是对信仰的一种考验。
The world wants us to change, but as long as we stick to the ways of our our forefathers -- God's truth hasn't changed if we stick to our forefathers' ways, then we haven't changed either, and we're not drifting, and the church remains strong.
世界希望我们改变,但只要我们坚持我们祖先的方式——神的真理就没有改变,如果我们坚持我们祖先的方式,那么我们也没有改变,我们没有随波逐流,教会仍然坚强。
At the beginning of the 20th century, rural Americans went to the little local country school, up to the eighth grade.
20 世纪初,美国农村的人在当地的小型乡村学校上学,直到八年级。
Both the Amish, and their non-Amish neighbors.
阿米什人和他们的非阿米什邻居。
And the little kids went to school and played together.
小孩子们一起去学校、一起玩耍。
And they were taught by a public school teacher.
他们是由公立学校老师教的。
We changed.
我们改变了。
We changed.
我们改变了。
We began to consolidate schools.
我们开始整合学校。
We began to lengthen the school year and to raise the age at which you could leave school.
我们开始延长学年并提高离校年龄。
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: For the Amish, education should be practical.
社会学家克雷比尔:对于阿米什人来说,教育应该是实用的。
It was important to learn to read, to write, to spell, to do some arithmetic.
学习阅读、写作、拼写和算术很重要。
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: And that's what you go through the eight grades to get.
约翰逊-韦纳,人类学家:这就是你通过八个等级才能得到的。
The book learning is important, the schooling is important, but it's values that you get at home working with your parents that's the most important.
书本学习很重要,学校教育也很重要,但最重要的是你在家与父母一起工作时获得的价值观。
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: They worried that if they sent their children to the public high school, the children would become individualistic, they would be exposed to outside ideas, they would leave the church, they would pursue other occupations.
社会学家克雷比尔:他们担心如果把孩子送到公立高中,孩子会变得个人主义,他们会接触到外界的想法,他们会离开教会,他们会追求其他职业。
Amish elders worried that it would lead to the demise of their church.
阿米什长老担心这会导致他们教会的消亡。
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: One of the local civil authorities, secular leaders, was saying, "Schools needed to prepare children for the world." And the Amish comment was "Which world?
约翰逊-韦纳,人类学家:一位当地民政当局、世俗领袖说,“学校需要为孩子们走向世界做好准备。”阿米什人的评论是“哪个世界?
Not this one.
不是这个。
This one is temporary."
这只是暂时的。”
Man leading the trial [archival]: You are charged with failing, on the 9th day of March, 1960 to send your child or children to a day school, whose subjects and activities are prescribed by the state council of education commonwealth of Pennsylvania, in violation of section 1327 of the school code.
主导审判的男子[档案]:您被指控在 1960 年 3 月 9 日未能将您的一个或多个孩子送入日间学校,该学校的科目和活动由宾夕法尼亚州教育联邦委员会规定,违反了学校法规第 1327 条。
Man leading the trial [archival]: I sentence you to five days in the county prison.
庭长[档案]:我判你在县监狱关五天。
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: The world is persecuting us again, the world wants us to change.
约翰逊-韦纳,人类学家:世界再次迫害我们,世界希望我们改变。
This change is not our faith, it's not how we should be doing things if we are to be "good Christians." And so, you go to jail.
这种改变不是我们的信仰,如果我们要成为“好基督徒”,这不是我们应该做的事情。所以,你进了监狱。
David Weaver-Zercher, Historian: There was a lot of coverage in the New York Times and some other national publications, where the Amish became associated with the one-room schoolhouse.
David Weaver-Zercher,历史学家:《纽约时报》和其他一些国家出版物有很多报道,阿米什人与单间校舍联系在一起。
Even as it was disappearing, and perhaps in part, because it was disappearing, it held a very nostalgic draw on other Americans.
即使它正在消失,也许部分是因为它正在消失,它仍然对其他美国人产生了非常怀旧的吸引力。
This one-room school where all the children knew one another well, and where there was one teacher that loved her children, and not only taught them math, but taught them values.
在这所只有一间教室的学校里,所有的孩子都彼此熟悉,并且有一位老师爱她的孩子,不仅教他们数学,还教他们价值观。
The Amish defending the one-room school really struck a chord with some Americans.
阿米什人捍卫一间教室的学校确实引起了一些美国人的共鸣。
And from that point on, there's a much more sympathetic edge to the way the Amish were portrayed and talked about.
从那时起,人们对阿米什人的描述和谈论方式就变得更加富有同情心。
People praise the Amish, for their self-sufficiency, for the way that even in the Depression they were able to were able to survive on the land, kind of a Jeffersonian sort of celebration of who the Amish are.
人们赞扬阿米什人的自给自足,赞扬他们即使在大萧条时期也能够在这片土地上生存,这有点像杰斐逊式的对阿米什人的庆祝。
And that doesn't entirely displace people's panning of Amish life as hopelessly backwards, but it becomes a much more prominent theme from the 1930s forward -- that the Amish represent something true and virtuous about American life that some others of us have lost.
这并不能完全取代人们对阿米什人生活的绝望倒退,但从 20 世纪 30 年代开始,它成为一个更加突出的主题——阿米什人代表了美国生活中一些真实而高尚的东西,而我们其他一些人已经失去了这些东西。
Gertrude E.
格特鲁德·E.
Huntington, Anthropologist: I really thought education was important.
亨廷顿,人类学家:我真的认为教育很重要。
And the fact that they only went to eighth grade, I thought was such a shame and too bad.
事实上,他们只上了八年级,我认为这真是太可惜了。
One day I was visiting one of the leaders of the community, and I said, "You know, I really am upset that you don't go to high school and that you don't let your children go on, even when they want to." And he said to me, "You see that field out there?
有一天,我拜访了社区的一位领导,我说:“你知道,我真的很沮丧,因为你没有上高中,也不让你的孩子继续上学,即使他们想上学。”他对我说:“你看到外面那片田地了吗?
It's owned by my neighbor.
它是我邻居的。
My son and his son are the same age.
我儿子和他儿子同岁。
His son went on to high school.
他的儿子继续上高中。
My son is already working on the farm.
我儿子已经在农场工作了。
Some day my son will own that farm." And sure enough, the neighbor's son became an engineer and laid pipe in South America, and the Amish man's son bought the farm.
有一天我的儿子将拥有那个农场。”果然,邻居的儿子成为了一名工程师,在南美洲铺设了管道,阿米什人的儿子买下了农场。
Justice Blackmun [archival from Yoder case]: Wisconsin against Yoder, and others.
布莱克蒙法官 [约德案档案]:威斯康星州起诉约德等人。
Mr. Ball?
鲍尔先生?
William Ball [archival]: Mr. Chief Justice, if it may please the court.
威廉·鲍尔[档案]:首席大法官先生,如果法庭愿意的话。
The Amish do not want their children, and they do not want themselves to be exposed to the spirit of luxury, of ostentation, of strife, consumerism, competition, speed, violence and other such elements as are commonly found in our American life.
阿米什人不想要自己的孩子,也不希望自己接触到奢侈、炫耀、冲突、消费主义、竞争、速度、暴力和其他美国生活中常见的元素。
Therefore education for them embraces a rejection of the higher learning and a positive emphasis...
因此,对他们的教育包括拒绝高等教育和积极强调......
Walter Cronkite, CBS News [archival]: In a unanimous ruling the Supreme Court has upheld the right of Amish parents to keep their children out of school after the eighth grade, in spite of compulsory attendance laws to the contrary.
沃尔特·克朗凯特 (Walter Cronkite),哥伦比亚广播公司新闻 [档案]:在一项一致裁决中,最高法院支持阿米什家长让孩子在八年级后不上学的权利,尽管强制入学法与此相反。
The court said the Amish, a devout religious sect, had shown their sincerity in their 250 years, and noted that the ruling for them does not apply to newly created groups.
法院表示,阿米什派是一个虔诚的教派,在其250年的历史中表现出了诚意,并指出,针对他们的裁决不适用于新成立的团体。
Amish Man 4: I think he's going to have mixed feelings about leaving school.
阿米什人 4:我认为他对于离开学校会有复杂的感受。
He likes school very well, but I'm looking forward to it.
他很喜欢上学,但我很期待。
I've been farming 25 years, without a boy of my own around here.
我已经务农 25 年了,这里还没有自己的儿子。
He's gonna miss that connection that he has with the other people at school.
他会怀念他与学校其他人的联系。
And he likes challenges academically.
他喜欢学术上的挑战。
So to come home on the farm, and work for me everyday, will probably be a little adjustment for him.
所以回到农场,每天为我工作,对他来说可能是一个小小的调整。
But, we stress simple, sound education.
但是,我们强调简单、健全的教育。
He's gotten that for eight years, and I'm satisfied that that's enough.
他已经这样做了八年,我很满意这已经足够了。
And that he needs to move on and see what else life has to offer him.
他需要继续前进,看看生活还能为他提供什么。
Saloma Furlong, Former Amish: When I was a child, I loved school.
Saloma Furlong,前阿米什人:当我还是个孩子的时候,我喜欢上学。
I was in my element in school.
我在学校里如鱼得水。
My desk was my little domain.
我的办公桌就是我的小领地。
At home there was not even one private space.
家里连一个私人空间都没有。
Not a drawer, not anything.
不是抽屉,什么也没有。
School was absolutely my best time.
学校绝对是我最美好的时光。
And it opened up a whole new world and a whole new way of thinking.
它开辟了一个全新的世界和全新的思维方式。
When I was going into eighth grade, I knew that this was going to be my last year.
当我进入八年级时,我知道这将是我的最后一年。
And I didn't really allow myself to think about it until it was over.
直到事情结束之前我才真正允许自己去思考这件事。
And when it really hit me was the first day of the school term, when my younger sisters and my younger brother started going to school.
真正让我震惊的是开学的第一天,我的妹妹和弟弟开始上学。
I remember going upstairs to my room, and I remember sitting on the edge of the bed and looking down at the woven rug at my feet and saying, "Now what?
我记得上楼到我的房间,我记得坐在床边,低头看着脚边的编织地毯,说:“现在怎么办?
You know, I used to be able to get away from all of this." And I just saw my future as pretty much a long stretch of boredom.
你知道,我曾经能够摆脱这一切。”我只是认为我的未来几乎是一段漫长的无聊时光。
And then I heard my mother calling me, "Where are you?
然后我听到妈妈叫我:“你在哪儿?
Wu bist du?" And I wanted to just yell back, "Where do you think I am?" Mom said, "Come on down.
呜呜呜?”我只想大喊:“你以为我在哪儿?”妈妈说:“下来吧。
You need to help with the dishes." And so I made my bed and I went down.
你需要帮忙洗碗。”于是我铺好了床,然后就下楼了。
Picked up the towel off the counter and started drying dishes, and it was just one of those moments where I felt like, "If I could change this, I would." And I couldn't at that moment, but I did later.
从柜台上拿起毛巾,开始擦盘子,这只是我感觉“如果我能改变这一点,我会的”的时刻之一。当时我不能,但后来我做到了。
I was 20 years old when I finally decided, "This is it, I need to leave." Once I was in Burlington, Vermont, I just remember the feeling I had when I woke up in my own little bed, in my own little room, that first morning.
当我20岁的时候,我终于决定:“就是这样,我需要离开。”当我到达佛蒙特州伯灵顿时,我只记得第一天早上我在自己的小床上、自己的小房间里醒来时的感觉。
I felt like I was a whole new person.
我觉得我是一个全新的人。
Like I could be anybody I wanted to be, and that I was no longer Amish.
就像我可以成为任何我想成为的人,而我不再是阿米什人。
Not inside and not out.
不在里面也不在外面。
I got my dream job, as a waitress at Pizza Hut.
我得到了我梦想的工作,在必胜客当服务员。
And then I started dating.
然后我开始约会。
David Furlong: She was more direct in a lot of ways.
大卫·弗隆:她在很多方面都更加直接。
She was clearer in what she wanted to do.
她更清楚自己想做什么。
She was also a very good cook.
她也是一位非常好的厨师。
And believe me that counted for something.
相信我,这很重要。
And I think, you know, I was also experiencing her sense of freedom.
我想,你知道,我也体验到了她的自由感。
And that's kind of an attractive thing.
这是一件很有吸引力的事情。
Saloma Furlong, Former Amish: I knew, sooner or later, Mom would call.
萨洛玛·弗隆(Saloma Furlong),前阿米什人:我知道,妈妈迟早会打电话来。
And she did.
她做到了。
She called one night to say, "We're on our way to come and get you." She started speaking in the Amish language.
一天晚上,她打电话说:“我们正在来接你的路上。”她开始用阿米什语说话。
She knew what she was doing.
她知道自己在做什么。
She was pulling me, right back into the world I'd left.
她拉着我,回到我离开的世界。
Something changed in me, where I couldn't say no. The Amish life is not about saying no. It's about going along.
我内心发生了一些变化,我无法拒绝。阿米什人的生活不是说不。这是关于一起走。
David Furlong: I got a phone call from her.
大卫·弗隆:我接到她的电话。
It was a different person that I was talking to than I had known.
与我交谈的人与我所认识的人不同。
She had switched off some part of herself.
她已经关闭了自己的某些部分。
Saloma Furlong, Former Amish: I was there for two years and eight months.
Saloma Furlong,前阿米什人:我在那里呆了两年零八个月。
And it was a very long two years and eight months.
这是非常漫长的两年零八个月。
And then I realized, that no matter how hard I tried, this Amish life just doesn't fit me.
然后我意识到,无论我多么努力,这种阿米什人的生活就是不适合我。
I wanted freedom.
我想要自由。
I wanted to make my own choices about education, about my spirituality, about my relationships.
我想在教育、我的灵性、我的人际关系方面做出自己的选择。
David and I got married a year and a half later.
一年半后,大卫和我结婚了。
Though I sent them invitations, nobody from my home community came.
尽管我向他们发出了邀请,但我的家乡社区没有人来。
And none of my family.
我的家人都没有。
The life I knew was ending.
我所知道的生活即将结束。
I was letting people down.
我让人们失望了。
Especially my mother.
尤其是我的母亲。
She wrote to me, and said, "Well, today you were put from the church," meaning you are now shunned.
她写信给我说,“好吧,今天你被逐出了教会”,意思是你现在被回避了。
Karen M.
凯伦·M。
Johnson-Weiner, Anthropologist: Shunning is the result of having made that baptismal promise.
约翰逊-韦纳,人类学家:回避是做出洗礼承诺的结果。
If I promise to God to uphold the O rdnung of the church, and you promise to God to uphold the Ordnung of the church, and then you break that promise, for me to continue to interact with you in the same way would be -- would make me break that promise.
如果我向上帝承诺维护教会的秩序,而你向上帝承诺维护教会的秩序,然后你违背了这个承诺,那么我继续以同样的方式与你互动将会——会让我违背这个承诺。
Steven M.
史蒂文·M.
Nolt, Historian: And so, the Amish would say, "We mark that broken relationship with one another by saying that we're not going to share a common meal with this person.
历史学家诺尔特:所以,阿米什人会说,“我们通过说我们不会与这个人共享一顿饭来标记彼此关系的破裂。
We're not going to engage in a business contract with this person."
我们不会与这个人签订商业合同。”
Steven M.
史蒂文·M.
Nolt, Historian: It can be quite painful, and even quite bitter.
历史学家诺尔特:这可能是非常痛苦的,甚至是非常痛苦的。
An individual, for example, might find that some other people still in the church won't talk to them.
例如,一个人可能会发现教会中的其他一些人不会与他们交谈。
That's not at the heart of the teaching about shunning, but it is something that happens in some cases, because the pain on both sides can be so intense that it takes that form.
这不是关于回避的教导的核心,但在某些情况下会发生这种情况,因为双方的痛苦可能是如此强烈,以至于它采取这种形式。
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: They are welcome to come back.
社会学家克雷比尔:欢迎他们回来。
If they come back and make a confession, they can be fully reinstated into the church.
如果他们回来认罪,就可以完全恢复进入教会。
So they would see it as an expression of love.
所以他们会认为这是爱的表达。
Amish Man 5: To the outsiders, the shunning seems harsh, and it can be harsh.
阿米什人 5:对于外人来说,回避似乎很严厉,而且可能很严厉。
We had it in our home.
我们家里有它。
It is brutal.
这是残酷的。
We'd love to sit at the same table to eat, and you cannot.
我们很想坐在同一张桌子上吃饭,但你不能。
Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter...
圣诞节、感恩节、复活节……
they're not a part of the family.
他们不是家庭的一部分。
Levi Shetler, Former Amish: I was always kind of close to my mom.
Levi Shetler,前阿米什人:我一直和我妈妈很亲近。
Closer, yeah.
更近一点,是的。
I was closer to my mom than my dad.
我和妈妈比爸爸更亲近。
I was kind of mama's kid, I guess.
我想我是妈妈的孩子。
It was hard for me to leave my parents behind.
我很难离开父母。
I mean, I knew how hard it was when my brother left.
我的意思是,我知道我哥哥离开后有多难受。
And I guess that's kind of the reason I didn't get to leave earlier.
我想这就是我没有早点离开的原因。
I waited till I was 17 and I finally said, "I'm going to leave." I mean, I didn't understand all the rules, and I just, I didn't think, a lot of them didn't make sense.
一直等到17岁,我终于说:“我要离开了。”我的意思是,我并不理解所有规则,而且我只是认为其中很多规则没有意义。
Me and my friend, we'd have phones and stuff.
我和我的朋友,我们有电话之类的东西。
We were having a blast.
我们玩得很开心。
That was everything to us, to have phones, radios and stuff like that.
对我们来说,拥有电话、收音机之类的东西就是一切。
Of course our parents wouldn't, they didn't like that.
我们的父母当然不会,他们不喜欢这样。
My dad would like, he would catch us with them, we'd have to give it to him, and he would destroy them or burn them.
我爸爸希望,他会用它们抓住我们,我们必须把它们交给他,然后他会毁掉或烧毁它们。
For me, I wanted to experience a different life.
对于我来说,我想体验不一样的生活。
I wanted to go out and drive a truck or something like that.
我想出去开卡车之类的。
I just thought that was -- oh, that would be cool.
我只是觉得——哦,那会很酷。
I work construction work.
我从事建筑工作。
We build pole barns.
我们建造杆式谷仓。
It's probably not my favorite thing to do, but it's something that keeps me going so it's all I need, I guess.
这可能不是我最喜欢做的事情,但它是让我继续前进的东西,所以我想这就是我所需要的。
Levi Shetler, Former Amish: That last time I went back, it was really hard on my mom.
Levi Shetler,前阿米什人:上次我回去时,我妈妈真的很难过。
I dunno, I thought she was gonna collapse.
我不知道,我以为她要崩溃了。
But...
但是...
I just tried to tell her, you know, I'm just a human being, and it's not that bad.
我只是想告诉她,你知道,我只是一个人,事情并没有那么糟糕。
I'm just me, you know.
我只是我,你知道。
I guess she hadn't seen me for a while, and I had a different haircut, and I looked different, so it was really hard on her.
我猜她已经有一段时间没见到我了,而且我的发型不同,看起来也不同,所以这对她来说真的很难受。
Then I talked to my dad for a while, and he told me that, if I don't want to come home to stay, he'd rather me just stay away.
然后我和我爸爸聊了一会儿,他告诉我,如果我不想回家留下来,他宁愿我离开。
And I left after that.
之后我就离开了。
Amish Man 5: Say there's a family of eight and a boy leaves.
阿米什人 5:假设有一个八口之家,一个男孩离开了。
His place at the table is always set.
他在餐桌上的位置总是固定的。
And nobody else sits there.
没有其他人坐在那里。
So three times a day he knows; "My place is set." That's a very powerful thing.
所以他一日三遍了知; “我的位置已经定了。”这是一个非常强大的东西。
Amish Woman 4: My mom was a very gentle soul.
阿米什女人 4:我的妈妈是一个非常温柔的人。
She was always a servant to everybody else.
她始终是其他人的仆人。
She always made sure everybody was taken care of, except mom.
她总是确保每个人都得到照顾,除了妈妈。
She always tried to be the submissive woman.
她总是试图成为一个顺从的女人。
And already then I wasn't sure about that word "submissive." And then I married an abuser, and then the word "submission" just became a monster.
那时我就不确定“顺从”这个词了。然后我嫁给了一个施虐者,然后“服从”这个词就变成了一个怪物。
I was so proud of my first child.
我为我的第一个孩子感到非常自豪。
But I also remember, I would sit at the window rocking my baby.
但我也记得,我会坐在窗边摇晃我的孩子。
And sitting there alone, and I cried a lot.
我独自坐在那儿,哭了很多次。
I knew things were not as they should be, but I kept telling myself, it's okay, it'll be all right.
我知道事情不应该是这样,但我不断告诉自己,没关系,一切都会好起来的。
But I would cry a lot.
但我会哭得很厉害。
I talked to my husband, and he'd say, "We're married, and I'm the head of the house." I'd say, "You know, the Bible says the father is the head of the home as Christ is the head of the church.
我和我丈夫谈过,他会说:“我们结婚了,我是一家之主。”我会说:“你知道,圣经说父亲是一家之主,就像基督是教会的头一样。
But we also need to remember that Christ was not up here like a master with a big whip." Well, that didn't work well, because I was confronting him, and I was doubting his words of wisdom.
但我们也需要记住,基督并不是像一个拿着大鞭子的主人一样。”嗯,这效果不太好,因为我在面对他,我怀疑他的智慧之言。
I soon learned not to say those things.
我很快就学会了不要说那些话。
They always say that we need to go to the church first, which I did.
他们总是说我们需要先去教堂,我就这么做了。
I went to the church and I asked for help.
我去了教堂寻求帮助。
The very first thing that the minister said to me when I said, "We've been struggling with a lot of abuse, and I need help," he looked at me and he said, "So what did you do that caused your husband to treat you this way?" That was such a blow.
当我说“我们一直在与很多虐待作斗争,我需要帮助”时,部长对我说的第一句话是,他看着我说,“那么你做了什么导致你丈夫这样对待你呢?”那真是一个打击。
That was such a blow.
那真是一个打击。
In fact it came to the point where the church actually had both of us not be able to go to communion until we can see where we have failed.
事实上,教会实际上让我们俩都无法参加圣餐,直到我们看到我们失败的地方。
And I felt like an outsider looking in.
我感觉自己就像一个局外人在看。
Finally I reached the point where spiritually I just said, "I'm just done.
最后,我在精神上达到了这样的地步:“我刚刚完成了。
I've just had it, Lord.
我刚刚受过,主啊。
I don't know what to do.
我不知道该怎么办。
But I have to be connected with the church again." I told my husband, "I'm going to go back to the ministers, and I'm just going to lay myself out and say, 'Here I am.
但我必须再次与教会取得联系。”我告诉我的丈夫,“我要回到部长们那里,我只是要躺下来说,‘我在这里。
I'll take any punishment you give me.
你给我的任何惩罚我都会接受。
I'll do anything.
我会做任何事。
I just need -- I need the church so bad.'" And he said, "Well, if you do, you're on your own because I'm not going to do it that way." And so that's what I did.
我只是需要——我非常需要教会。’”他说,“好吧,如果你这样做,你就得靠你自己了,因为我不会那样做。”这就是我所做的。
I went back to the ministers, and I just cried, and I just said, "I'll just do anything you tell me to." I acknowledged anything and everything that I could think of under the sun.
我回到部长们那里,我只是哭了,我只是说:“我会做你们告诉我的任何事情。”我承认天底下我能想到的一切。
And yeah, say yes to things that I didn't really think were maybe exactly right to say yes to.
是的,对那些我认为不太合适的事情说“是”。
But I did it out of obedience because I felt God nudging me that way.
但我这样做是出于服从,因为我感觉到上帝在这样推动我。
And I got back in the church, without my husband.
我回到教堂,没有丈夫。
Obedience is not easy.
服从并不容易。
Joe Keim (group meeting): Verse number three Rachel, would you read verse number three again?
乔·凯姆(小组会议):第三节雷切尔,你能再读一遍第三节吗?
Rachel: (group meeting) : "In the sweat of thy faith, thy shall eat bread, 'till thou return, unto the ground.
拉结:(小组会议):“你必靠着信心的汗水才有饭吃,直到你归回土里。
For out of it you were taken, for dust thou art, and unto dust thou shall return."
因为你是从其中被带出来的,你本是尘土,也必归于尘土。”
Joe Keim: (group meeting) : Wow.
乔·凯姆:(小组会议):哇。
What do you think about that?
你对此有何看法?
You never looked at each other as clumps of dust and...
你们从未将彼此视为一团尘埃……
We need to be reminded, Benny, when I look at you, you're really just a clump of dirt.
我们需要提醒一下,本尼,当我看着你时,你真的只是一团泥土。
Joe Keim: (group meeting) : I'd like to ask Levi Shetler a question.
Joe Keim:(小组会议):我想问 Levi Shetler 一个问题。
How far ahead do you plan in your life?
你的人生规划有多远?
Levi Shetler, Former Amish: (group meeting) : Not really...
Levi Shetler,前阿米什人:(小组会议):不是真的......
I mean live for God, and...
我的意思是为神而活,并且...
other than that, I don't really have any...
除此之外,我真的没有任何...
Levi Shetler: I had a pretty good life with my family.
Levi Shetler:我和家人过着非常美好的生活。
I've been thinking about them lately, and I went through a real tough time, I guess, just thinking about them.
我最近一直在想他们,我想,只是想他们,我就经历了一段非常艰难的时光。
I miss them, so...
我想念他们,所以...
I sometimes feel like I should go back and just try to talk to them and talk things over, try to work things out.
有时我觉得我应该回去尝试与他们交谈并讨论问题,尝试解决问题。
So I guess...
所以我猜...
I don't know what I'll do.
我不知道我会做什么。
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: There's a lot of financial pressure on the Amish rural and agricultural way of life.
社会学家克雷比尔:阿米什人的农村和农业生活方式面临着很大的经济压力。
Land has become very expensive.
土地变得非常昂贵。
You may have one farm that's worth a million dollars, but if you have to buy farms for six or seven children, it's just impossible.
你可能拥有一个价值一百万美元的农场,但如果你必须为六七个孩子购买农场,那是不可能的。
Amish Teen 2: I could be a farmer, do carpentry, masonry, have a market stand.
阿米什青少年 2:我可以成为一名农民,做木工、石工、摆摊。
I could -- framer, roofer, painter, landscaper, any -- it's just on and on.
我可以——框架设计师、屋顶设计师、油漆工、园林设计师,任何人——就这样不断地工作。
You could be a wallpaperer, drywaller, manufacturer, a welder, woodworker.
您可以成为壁纸工、干墙工、制造商、焊工、木工。
It's just such a big variety of things that -- of occupations in the area.
该地区的职业种类繁多。
It's almost too early to tell.
现在说还为时过早。
I don't know.
我不知道。
I never went through it before, so I don't know how it's going to be, like probably going to be fun and still sometimes wish I could still just go and play ball and just have fun, playing and -- I don't know how it's going to be.
我以前从未经历过,所以我不知道它会怎样,就像可能会很有趣,但有时仍然希望我仍然可以去打球,只是玩得开心,玩——我不知道它会怎样。
It probably won't seem as different until school starts again and then I won't go back.
直到学校重新开学之前,情况可能不会有什么不同,然后我就不会回去了。
Amish Man 7: What are 20,000 people going to do to make a living in this tight area, with the transportation mode that we have?
阿米什人 7:在我们现有的交通方式下,在这个狭小的地区,20,000 人将如何谋生?
What are they going to do?
他们要做什么?
They can't all buy farms.
他们不可能都买农场。
It's impossible.
这是不可能的。
They turn 16 and 17, and they head for the factories.
他们分别年满 16 岁和 17 岁,前往工厂。
Amish Teen 3: When I started working in the factory.
阿米什青少年 3:当我开始在工厂工作时。
That's when I really grew up.
那时我才真正长大了。
Because in there, you, I mean, you're treated like a man, no matter how old you are.
因为在那里,我的意思是,无论你多大,你都会被当作一个男人对待。
It's a very high pressured atmosphere where they don't care about your clothes you wear, who you are.
这是一种非常高压的氛围,他们不关心你穿的衣服,你是谁。
It's just if you can work fast and do what they want, you're in.
只要你能快速工作并做他们想做的事,你就加入了。
And so that really made me grow up, because it wasn't who I was; it was what I could do.
所以这确实让我成长了,因为那不是我,而是我。这是我能做的。
You're always thinking ahead.
你总是提前思考。
You're always thinking what you need to do next.
你总是在思考下一步需要做什么。
I'm always thinking as fast as I can.
我总是尽可能快地思考。
I wouldn't want this my whole life.
我一生都不想这样。
I wouldn't want to raise my kids underneath this pressure.
我不想在这样的压力下抚养我的孩子。
Amish Man 7: We're just doing things that we didn't do 25, 30 years ago.
阿米什人 7:我们只是在做 25、30 年前没有做过的事情。
And when that happens, you tend to panic a little bit.
当这种情况发生时,你往往会有点恐慌。
You have to wonder: where are we going?
你一定想知道:我们要去哪里?
What's this going to lead to?
这会导致什么?
Is this what we really want?
这是我们真正想要的吗?
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: I think the move off of the farm into small businesses, into working in outside "English" factories has been the most significant, the most consequential change since they came to North America.
社会学家克雷比尔:我认为,离开农场进入小企业、在“英国”之外的工厂工作是他们来到北美以来最重要、影响最深远的变化。
It touches how they think, it touches how much technology they use, it exposes them to outside ideas, it exposes them to the larger world, it exposes their children to many things.
它涉及他们的思维方式,涉及他们使用多少技术,它让他们接触外部想法,它让他们接触更大的世界,它让他们的孩子接触很多东西。
And how that plays out over two or three generations, I think, is a major issue that we don't know the outcome of that yet.
我认为,这种情况如何在两到三代人的时间里发挥作用,是一个我们还不知道结果的重大问题。
Amish Man 8: When we started thinking about moving we looked in a lot of different places.
阿米什人 8:当我们开始考虑搬家时,我们考虑了很多不同的地方。
Amish Man 8: We had to find a place that we could travel by horse and buggy, have the old ways of doing things, and still have enough work going on in the area that, that we have a chance of making a living and making a go of it.
阿米什人 8:我们必须找到一个可以骑马和越野车旅行的地方,有古老的做事方式,并且该地区仍然有足够的工作正在进行,这样我们就有机会谋生并取得成功。
We don't know if this is gonna work out or not.
我们不知道这是否会成功。
But if we do have to leave it will bring tears to our eyes.
但如果我们不得不离开,我们会热泪盈眶。
Real Estate Agent: So now on Bishop's place, Bishop's is not listed.
房地产经纪人:所以现在在Bishop's 的位置上,Bishop's 没有列出。
He's given, given us the right to go look at it, so when we get there, let's just walk all the way through there.
他给了我们去看的权利,所以当我们到达那里时,我们就一路走过去吧。
I know this house pretty well, I'll point out some stuff that --
我很了解这所房子,我会指出一些东西——
Amish man: I'd like to see the barn, about more than anything almost.
阿米什人:我想看看谷仓,最重要的是。
Real Estate Agent: Oh, we'll get in the barn.
房地产经纪人:哦,我们会进入谷仓。
So what are you thinking about one of these five-acre pieces?
那么,您对这块五英亩的土地有何看法?
Just curiosity?
只是好奇心?
Okay.
好的。
You know I did check out the well on that one, and it checked out pretty good if I remember.
你知道我确实检查过那口井,如果我记得的话,情况非常好。
But I'd have to pull it up again....
但我又得把它拉起来......
I might even have that information in your file.
我什至可能在你的文件中找到这些信息。
I bet I do.
我打赌我会的。
Amish Man 8: Over the years, I saw Ohio changing tremendously.
阿米什人 8:这些年来,我看到俄亥俄州发生了巨大的变化。
And there's about four or five times the number of families living in the same area, than there was as a boy.
居住在同一地区的家庭数量大约是小时候的四五倍。
There's really no place for the children to, to roam around, and go out back and play, and use their imagination.
确实没有地方可以让孩子们闲逛、出去玩耍、发挥他们的想象力。
They're just kinda stuck on that little one-acre of land and that's not really what I consider the ideal Amish lifestyle.
他们只是被困在那一小块一英亩的土地上,这并不是我认为的理想的阿米什生活方式。
Amish Man 8: Did he, serious?
阿米什人 8:他是认真的吗?
Did he really?
他真的吗?
Right there, while you were still there?
就在那里,当你还在的时候?
Amish Man 8: Well, that's good.
阿米什人 8:嗯,那很好。
That's good.
那挺好的。
That's a real good sign.
这真是一个好兆头。
Real Estate Agent: He said Bob and him talked about it, the 275, but he said, "Well, we listed it for 295."
房地产经纪人:他说鲍勃和他讨论过这个问题,275,但他说,“好吧,我们列出的价格是 295。”
Amish Man 8: Because...
阿米什人 8:因为……
yeah, I'm sure two years ago it was 335, or something like that.
是的,我确定两年前是 335,或者类似的数字。
Three hundred and thirty nine?
三百三十九?
Real Estate Agent: Amazing the difference in the wells.
房地产经纪人:水井的差异令人惊叹。
Five hundred feet, 140 something?
五百英尺,一百四十英尺左右?
Huh!
哈!
Hard to believe.
很难相信。
Amish Man 8: We've still got a lot of things to figure out, entirely new country.
阿米什人 8:我们还有很多事情需要弄清楚,这是一个全新的国家。
Back east we worried about having too much water, here we worry about not having enough.
在东部我们担心水太多,在这里我们担心水不够。
We've gotta experiment with different ways of growing produce and see what works and what doesn't work, and hopefully work things out for the children in the future.
我们必须尝试不同的种植方式,看看哪些有效,哪些无效,并希望将来能为孩子们解决问题。
If we can stick it out here, the first ones, for a couple of years and we get 12 to 15 families in that length of time, and everybody is able to make a living and survive, then I would say that it would be a thriving community and could probably grow from there.
如果我们能在这里坚持几年,在这段时间里,我们会有 12 到 15 个家庭,每个人都能谋生和生存,那么我想说,这将是一个繁荣的社区,并且可能会从此发展。
Real Estate Agent: Yeah, well, the Hamilton property next door, to this one...
房地产经纪人:是的,嗯,汉密尔顿的房产就在这栋房子的隔壁……
Amish Man 8: I feel a tremendous responsibility.
阿米什人 8:我感到责任重大。
Some days it's almost overwhelming.
有些日子几乎是压倒性的。
Real Estate Agent: ...they're pretty nice.
房地产经纪人:……他们非常好。
Same type of property.
同一类型的财产。
Amish Man 8: I'm the eldest one here, and we've got young people moving in, just extending themselves right to the limit to buy properties and make a home here.
阿米什人 8:我是这里最年长的一个,我们已经有年轻人搬进来,他们竭尽全力在这里购买房产并安家。
Real Estate Agent: ...kind of property.
房地产经纪人:……某种财产。
Little bit of tree cover, good green....
一点点的树木覆盖,绿意盎然......
Amish Man 8: And if it doesn't work out I just feel like maybe I let them down or, or maybe I should've never started.
阿米什人 8:如果没有成功,我只是觉得我可能让他们失望了,或者,也许我根本不应该开始。
Real Estate Agent: ...the fact that this is fenced...
房地产经纪人:……事实上,这是被围起来的……
that adds to the value --
这增加了价值——
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: : There are a lot of myths about Rumspringa .
Kraybill,社会学家::关于 Rumspringa 有很多神话。
And basically it means that young people on Saturday and Sunday afternoons, Sunday evenings, can go out with their friends.
基本上这意味着年轻人在周六和周日下午、周日晚上可以和朋友一起出去。
And so for the first time, when they're 16, an Amish boy may get his first carriage, he begins interacting with peers in a larger group, and this continues basically until the person is married.
因此,当他们 16 岁时,阿米什男孩第一次可能会得到他的第一辆马车,他开始与更大群体中的同龄人互动,这种情况基本上会持续到这个人结婚为止。
It's a time to socialize, and especially it's a time to look for a mate.
这是社交的时间,尤其是寻找伴侣的时间。
And they also are in a friendship group that will follow them through the rest of their life.
他们也属于一个将伴随他们一生的友谊团体。
Amish Teen 3: Biggest difference is, Saturday nights you got your group of friends.
阿米什青少年 3:最大的区别是,周六晚上你有一群朋友。
You go out with whatever group you're with.
你和任何一个团体一起出去。
There's actually names for them.
他们实际上有名字。
It starts out with Low Clinton, where they would basically be like their parents.
这一切从洛·克林顿开始,他们基本上就像他们的父母一样。
They wouldn't do any fancier clothes, as far as even Amish fancier clothes.
他们不会做任何更高档的衣服,甚至是阿米什人更高档的衣服。
The High Clinton, they might do with a little bit fancier clothes.
克林顿高位,他们可能会穿一些更华丽的衣服。
The girls figure out how to do fancier sleeves on their dresses, and the boys, they might do corduroy.
女孩们想出了如何在衣服上做更漂亮的袖子,而男孩们则可能会做灯芯绒。
And then there's the What's Up.
然后是“最近怎么样”。
They would be more high class.
他们会更高级。
The latest jeans, the latest shirts, have up-to-date haircuts, and some of them also go clubbing and stuff like that, date English girls.
最新的牛仔裤、最新的衬衫、最新的发型,其中一些人还去泡吧之类的,和英国女孩约会。
Amish Teen 1: I know where I'll end up.
阿米什青少年 1:我知道我最终会去哪里。
Or where I hope to end up as far as my future.
或者我希望我的未来能到达哪里。
But, like my friend and I we're just always like, 'We just want to settle down sometimes.' But then sometimes I wouldn't want to either.
但是,就像我和我的朋友一样,我们总是这样,“我们有时只是想安定下来。”但有时我也不想这样做。
What if I would marry a guy that would want to just go out, strike out on his own, and be in another state?
如果我嫁给一个只想出去闯荡、去另一个州生活的人怎么办?
I'd be like, "No!
我会说:“不!
I don't wanna go!" That would be so hard!
我不想走!”那可就太难了!
I mean, I think, 14 miles is a long way from home.
我的意思是,我认为 14 英里离家很远。
You know, think about being 100 miles, a couple hundred miles away.
你知道,想想 100 英里、几百英里之外的情况。
That would be terrible.
那将是可怕的。
They say wherever he goes, you'll follow, but it would still be hard.
他们说无论他走到哪里,你都会跟随,但这仍然很难。
How far do you live from your parents?
你住得离父母有多远?
Amish Teen 3: If you look at it that you want to live a free life, you want to drive, and you want to be able to get around and do what you want to, you're giving up a lot.
阿米什青少年3:如果你认为你想要过自由的生活,你想要开车,你想要四处走动并做你想做的事,那么你就放弃了很多。
If you want to be with your friends, be with your family, be within 20 miles of your family for the rest of your life, there's a good chance that'll happen in the Amish.
如果您想在余生中与朋友、家人在一起、在距离家人 20 英里的范围内,那么阿米什人很可能会实现这一点。
And in that sense, you're going to be gaining a lot.
从这个意义上说,你将会收获很多。
Don't get me wrong.
别误会我的意思。
There's problems.
有问题。
People don't get along all the time.
人与人之间并不总是相处融洽。
There's conflict.
有冲突。
But if you really want to live an Amish life, and follow it, there's a good way out there to do it and be happy.
但如果你真的想过阿米什人的生活,并遵循它,有一个很好的方法可以做到这一点并获得快乐。
Tour bus driver: This is an Amish farm.
旅游巴士司机:这是一个阿米什农场。
On the left is a farmer, who raises ponies!
左边是一个养小马的农民!
You see him?
你看到他了吗?
The next guy is a sheep herder...
下一个是牧羊人……
Amish Man 5: I have to tell you a little story.
阿米什人 5:我必须告诉你一个小故事。
There was a tour bus.
有一辆旅游巴士。
Amish man got on and they asked him -- what's the difference between you and us?
阿米什人上了车,他们问他——你和我们有什么区别?
Tour Bus Guide: : The man on the left has 13 children to the same woman.
旅游巴士指南: :左边的男人与同一个女人有13个孩子。
On the right, this little house...
右边这个小房子...
it is an Amish home.
这是一个阿米什人的家。
Amish Man 5: : Well, he said how many of you have television?
阿米什人 5: :嗯,他说你们有多少人有电视?
All the hands went up.
所有的手都举了起来。
He said, how many of you, if you have a family, think you'd be better off without television?
他说,如果你们有家庭,你们中有多少人认为没有电视会过得更好?
Practically all the hands went up.
几乎所有的人都举手了。
He said how many of you are going to go home and get rid of it?
他说你们有多少人要回家摆脱它?
No hands went up.
没有人举手。
He said that's the difference between you and the Amish.
他说这就是你和阿米什人的区别。
Because we will do it.
因为我们会这么做。
If it's bad for the family, we will not have it.
如果对家庭不好,我们就不会接受。
Tour Bus Guide: Amish people have no food restrictions.
旅游巴士指南:阿米什人对食物没有限制。
They can eat anything.
他们什么都能吃。
They can smoke if they want to.
如果他们愿意,他们可以吸烟。
They grow the tobacco, they might as well smoke it.
他们种植烟草,也可能吸食烟草。
Amish boy: This is a Quillow.
阿米什男孩:这是羽毛笔。
It might look like a Pillow, but then there's a pocket here, and you can pull it out, it turns into a blanket.
它可能看起来像一个枕头,但这里有一个口袋,你可以把它拉出来,它就变成了一条毯子。
Amish boy: Then you still have the pocket here, which you can stick your feet in.
阿米什男孩:那你还有口袋,你可以把脚伸进去。
To fold it up, pocket face down, you half fold them on the line, looks good on both sides.
将其折叠起来,口袋面朝下,将它们沿线上对折,两边看起来都不错。
Amish Man 3: We want to be a society of people that are separate from the world, but still we want to be friends with the world.
阿米什人3:我们希望成为一个与世界分离的社会,但我们仍然希望与世界成为朋友。
But it's tough.
但这很难。
You rub shoulders with the outside world, after a while, you're just like they are.
你和外面的世界擦肩而过,过了一段时间,你就和他们一样了。
And it happens fast.
而且它发生得很快。
Donald B.
唐纳德·B.
Kraybill, Sociologist: Amish people who are in situations where they are rubbing shoulders a lot with the outside world have a keen sense of the potential danger that it could bring to their community.
社会学家克雷比尔:阿米什人经常与外界接触,他们敏锐地意识到这可能会给他们的社区带来潜在的危险。
They're exposed, and their children are exposed to things that would have been unheard of 30 years ago.
他们和他们的孩子都接触到了 30 年前闻所未闻的事情。
And so all of that presents dangers, and some Amish leaders I think, worry about what will the long-term consequences be, and what will this mean for our children down the road?
因此,所有这些都带来了危险,我认为一些阿米什领导人担心长期后果是什么,这对我们的孩子将来意味着什么?
Amish Man 3: Some people, stretch the line a little bit, and before they know what happens, they're halfway out in the world.
阿米什人 3:有些人稍微拉长了界限,在他们知道会发生什么之前,他们就已经脱离了世界的一半。
They didn't even realize it.
他们甚至没有意识到这一点。
And then for some it's too late and then they can't turn back.
然后对于一些人来说已经太晚了,他们无法回头。
And they lose faith in the Amish church, and they disappear.
他们对阿米什教会失去了信心,然后就消失了。
Amish Man 4: Working with the land I think has a tendency to draw you closer to the creator.
阿米什人 4:我认为与土地一起工作会拉近你与创造者的距离。
I don't know if you remember old Hank Williams.
我不知道你是否还记得老汉克·威廉姆斯。
He had a song...
他有一首歌...
I can plough a field all day long, I can catch catfish from dusk 'til dawn.
我可以耕田一整天,我可以从黄昏钓到天亮。
My grandpa taught me how to live off the land.
我的爷爷教我如何在土地上生活。
He showed me how to be a businessman.
他向我展示了如何成为一名商人。
And a country boy can survive.
一个乡下男孩也能生存。
How hard will it be in the future?
未来会有多难?
I don't know.
我不知道。
I just don't go there.
我只是不去那里。
We're just pilgrims and foreigners, just passing through.
我们只是朝圣者和外国人,只是过客。
This life is just a speck in the sand, compared to eternity.
与永恒相比,今生只是沙中的一粒。
An intimate portrait of Amish faith and life, and an examination of how a closed and communal culture has thrived within one of the most open societies on earth.
本书对阿米什人的信仰和生活进行了深入的描绘,并考察了封闭的社区文化如何在地球上最开放的社会之一中蓬勃发展。
Internationally renowned scholar Donald B.
国际著名学者Donald B.
Kraybill to answer our top ten questions about the Amish.
克雷比尔回答了我们关于阿米什人的十大问题。
An English (non-Amish) man observes another man walking down the street — he is in plain dress, he wears suspenders and a hat.
一名英国(非阿米什)男子观察另一名男子走在街上——他穿着朴素,穿着背带,戴着帽子。
He must be Amish...
他一定是阿米什人...
right?
对吗?
Thought a violation of the Second Commandment, which prohibits the making of "graven images," the Amish believe photographs of themselves promote individualism and vanity.
阿米什人认为自己的照片宣扬了个人主义和虚荣心,这违反了禁止制作“雕刻图像”的第二诫。
The first Amish arrived in America in the mid 1700s.
第一个阿米什人于 1700 年代中期抵达美国。
Explore a timeline of events from their arrival through 2011.
探索从他们到来到 2011 年的事件时间表。
A 1940s video shows an Amish family harvesting wheat and tobacco.
一段 20 世纪 40 年代的视频显示,阿米什家庭正在收割小麦和烟草。
Shortly after this was taken, most Amish groups were forbidden from posing for videos.
这张照片拍摄后不久,大多数阿米什团体被禁止摆姿势拍摄视频。
This 1940s video shows a Pennsylvania Dutch family working without modern machinery.
这段 20 世纪 40 年代的视频展示了宾夕法尼亚州荷兰家庭在没有现代机械的情况下工作。
This 1940s footage shows Pennsylvania Dutch rolling and molding hard candy.
这段 20 世纪 40 年代的镜头展示了宾夕法尼亚荷兰人滚动和成型硬糖的过程。
Among the Amish, "Rules of a Godly Life" are considered more of an annex to the Bible — an inspirational book to help guide the way to a more fulfilling life.
在阿米什人中,《敬虔生活的规则》更多地被认为是《圣经》的附件——一本帮助指导通往更充实生活的励志书。
While the Amish generally do not pose for pictures, some will cooperate with photographers they know and trust.
虽然阿米什人通常不会摆姿势拍照,但有些人会与他们认识和信任的摄影师合作。