Oswald's Ghost
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : A president of the United States is shot down at high noon in a public square with some 400 or 500 people looking on, with maybe at least 38 of them taking film and photos, and now over 40 years later we don't know what happened.
乔赛亚·汤普森（Josiah Thompson），调查员：一位美国总统在正午时分在一个公共广场被枪杀，大约有 400 或 500 人在观看，其中可能至少有 38 人在拍摄胶片和照片，而 40 多年后的今天，我们不知道发生了什么。
Robert Dallek, Historian : How could someone as inconsequential as Lee Harvey Oswald have killed someone as consequential as John F.
历史学家罗伯特·达莱克：像李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德这样无关紧要的人怎么可能杀死像约翰·F·肯尼迪这样重要的人？
Kennedy?
肯尼迪？
People are comforted by the idea, I think, that human affairs are not the product of random events.
我认为，人们对人类事务不是随机事件的产物这一想法感到安慰。
There's some larger force at work here.
这里有一些更大的力量在起作用。
Norman Mailer, Novelist : The real shock was philosophical, as if God had removed his sanction from America.
小说家诺曼·梅勒：真正的震惊是哲学上的，就好像上帝取消了对美国的制裁一样。
Which to me is a most basic notion, because to this day a majority of Americans feel that America is the God approved nation.
对我来说，这是一个最基本的概念，因为直到今天，大多数美国人都认为美国是上帝认可的国家。
It's the one that God loves the most.
这是神最喜爱的人。
After that assassination there was a feeling that there was something under everything.
那次刺杀之后，我有一种感觉，一切都隐藏着某种东西。
That the U.S. might not go on forever.
美国可能不会永远持续下去。
The country was washed in the same kind of pain and confusion and consternation that followed 9/11.
9/11 事件之后，这个国家陷入了同样的痛苦、混乱和惊愕之中。
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : As long as a mystery resides at the center of this case, it can't be closed.
乔赛亚·汤普森（Josiah Thompson），调查员：只要这起案件的中心存在着一个谜团，它就无法结案。
There's this fundamental question mark that still stands there in the center of our experience in the 20th century.
这个基本的问号仍然存在于我们 20 世纪的经验中心。
District Attorney Wade Full name is Lee Harvey Oswald, O-S-W-A-L-D.
地方检察官韦德全名是李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德 (Lee Harvey Oswald)，O-S-W-A-L-D。
Reporter : Is there any indication that this was an organized plot or was it just one man?
记者：有没有迹象表明这是一个有组织的阴谋，还是一个人所为？
District Attorney Wade : There's no one else but him.
地方检察官韦德：除了他，没有其他人了。
Priscilla Johnson McMillan, Historian : On the 22nd of November, I was thinking about a letter I had mailed to President Kennedy the evening before, when a friend came and told me that Kennedy had been shot.
普里西拉·约翰逊·麦克米伦，历史学家：11 月 22 日，我正在思考前一天晚上寄给肯尼迪总统的一封信，这时一位朋友来告诉我肯尼迪被枪杀了。
And I said, "Well, have they caught anyone?" And she said, "Yes, his name is Lee Harrr -- " and I knew the rest.
我说：“那么，他们抓到人了吗？”她说：“是的，他的名字叫李·哈尔——”其余的我都知道了。
I think I said to her, "that boy." You know, it was just something you couldn't believe ...
我想我对她说：“那个男孩。”你知道，这只是你无法相信的事情......
because I knew him.
因为我认识他。
Tom Pettit : In Dallas, the prime suspect still is being questioned.
汤姆·佩蒂特：在达拉斯，主要嫌疑人仍在接受审问。
He is 24-year-old Lee Harvey Oswald of Dallas, a former Marine, who spent some time in Russia who at one time had applied for Soviet citizenship.
他是来自达拉斯的 24 岁李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德 (Lee Harvey Oswald)，曾是一名海军陆战队员，曾在俄罗斯呆过一段时间，曾申请过苏联公民身份。
Oswald has been placed in the building from where the bullets were fired at President Kennedy.
奥斯瓦尔德被安置在向肯尼迪总统发射子弹的大楼里。
Oswald denies killing President Kennedy, says he's being held because he was in Russia.
奥斯瓦尔德否认杀害了肯尼迪总统，并表示他之所以被关押是因为他在俄罗斯。
But Dallas Police Chief J.
但达拉斯警察局长 J.
E.
E.
Curry says interrogation of Oswald will continue, that he is a very good suspect in the death of President Kennedy.
库里表示，对奥斯瓦尔德的审讯将继续进行，他是肯尼迪总统之死的一个非常好的嫌疑人。
Reporter : Is this the man you believe killed President Kennedy?
记者：您认为这是杀死肯尼迪总统的人吗？
Chief Curry : I think we have the right man.
库里酋长：我认为我们找到了合适的人选。
Reporters : Let's get one shot of him.
记者：我们给他拍一张吧。
Can we get one statement please?
我们可以得到一份声明吗？
Lee Harvey Oswald : I'd like some legal representation but these police officers have not allowed me to, to have any.
Lee Harvey Oswald：我想要一些法律代表，但这些警察不允许我这样做。
I don't know what this is all about.
我不知道这是怎么回事。
Lee Harvey Oswald : No, sir.
李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德：不，先生。
I didn't.
我没有。
People keep asking me that.
人们一直问我这个问题。
Sir?
先生？
Lee Harvey Oswald : I work in that building.
Lee Harvey Oswald：我在那栋楼工作。
Reporter : Were you in the building at the time?
记者：当时你在大楼里吗？
Lee Harvey Oswald : Naturally, if I work in that building, yes sir.
Lee Harvey Oswald：当然，如果我在那栋楼工作，是的，先生。
Reporter : Back up ma'am!
记者：女士支持一下！
Did you shoot the president?
你射杀了总统吗？
Lee Harvey Oswald : No, they are taking me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union.
李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德：不，他们收留我是因为我住在苏联。
I'm just a patsy!
我只是个小偷而已！
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : I'd had coffee with my friends at the Dallas News and I didn't have anything to do that morning.
休·艾恩斯沃斯，记者：我和朋友在《达拉斯新闻报》喝了咖啡，那天早上我没什么可做的。
So by I guess about 11 o'clock I decided I'd just walk over, it isn't every day that the president comes to town, you know.
所以到了大约 11 点的时候，我决定步行过去，你知道，总统并不是每天都会进城的。
As he goes by two or three seconds later, I hear a pop, I think it is a motorcycle backfire because a motorcycle had just gone by, and then suddenly a second or two later another and then another.
两三秒后，当他经过时，我听到砰的一声，我认为这是摩托车的回火，因为一辆摩托车刚刚经过，然后突然一两秒后又是一声，然后是另一声。
Three shots.
三枪。
Police Radio : Go to the Hospital.
警察电台：去医院。
We're on our way to Parkland Hospital, have 'em stand by.
我们正在去帕克兰医院的路上，让他们待命。
Dan Rather, Reporter : : Suddenly, the presidential limousine swept by.
记者丹·拉瑟：：突然，总统专车呼啸而过。
So I was a little bit confused but the main thing was I didn't see the rest of the motorcade coming.
所以我有点困惑，但最主要的是我没有看到车队的其他人来。
I didn't know that anything had happened.
我不知道发生了什么事。
A lot of people in the crowd itself had no idea what had happened.
人群中的很多人都不知道发生了什么。
Police radio : Get men up on top of that over -- underpass.
警察广播：派人到那条地下通道的顶部。
See what happened up there.
看看上面发生了什么。
Go up to the overpass.
上到立交桥。
Police radio : Can you give us any information as to what happened?
警方广播：您能给我们提供有关发生的事情的任何信息吗？
Police radio : Looks like the president has been hit ...
警察电台：看来总统被击中了......
295?
295？
Police radio : Two hundred and ninety-five.
警察广播：295。
They say the president's head was practically blown off.
他们说总统的头几乎被炸掉了。
Dan Rather, Reporter : When I saw people running, pointing, shouting, I said, "Boy, I've got to get back to the station, I am responsible for coverage here," and I zipped.
丹·拉瑟，记者：当我看到人们奔跑、指指点点、大喊大叫时，我说，“孩子，我必须回到车站，我负责这里的报道，”然后我就飞快地跑了。
Police Radio : Two hundred and sixty.
警察电台：260。
We have a man here who says he saw a fellow pull a weapon back through a window of that Depository building.
我们这里有一个人说他看到一个人从存放大楼的窗户里拉回了武器。
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : I was interviewing everyone who thought they saw anything or heard anything.
休·艾恩斯沃斯，记者：我采访了所有认为自己看到或听到任何东西的人。
One of the first people I interviewed was the real one eyewitness that sat on the parapet just across from Oswald and watched him for several minutes in the window.
我采访的第一批人之一是真正的目击者，他坐在奥斯瓦尔德对面的栏杆上，在窗户里看了他几分钟。
That's how they got the all-points bulletin a few minutes later.
这就是他们在几分钟后得到全分公告的方式。
Police Radio : Could the man determine if that man is still supposed to be in the building or had he left?
警察广播：该男子能否确定该男子是否仍留在大楼内或已经离开？
Police Radio : He didn't know for certain, but we've got that building saturated by now.
警察电台：他不确定，但我们现在已经让那栋大楼饱和了。
We should know something before long ...
不久之后我们应该会知道一些事情......
Police Radio : Attention all squads: the suspect in the shooting is reported to be an unknown white male about 30, slender build, five feet 10 inches tall, 165 pounds.
警察电台：所有小队请注意：据报道，枪击事件的嫌疑人是一名身份不明的白人男性，年龄约30岁，身材修长，高5英尺10英寸，体重165磅。
No further description at this time or information.
目前没有进一步的描述或信息。
12:45.
12:45。
Police Radio : Notify one, that we have an officer involved in a shooting at 10th and Patton.
警察电台：通知一位警官，我们有一名警官参与了 10 街和巴顿街的枪击事件。
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : I thought, my God, that has got to be connected.
Hugh Aynesworth，记者：我想，天啊，这一定是有联系的。
Someone shoots at the president here, somebody shoots a cop three or four miles away.
有人在这里向总统开枪，有人在三四英里外向警察开枪。
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。
.
。
So I grabbed two guys and we drove like mad.
所以我拉了两个人，我们疯狂地开车。
Got there just in time to interview three or four people who had seen him shoot Mr. Tippit.
刚好赶到那里采访了三四个亲眼目睹他射杀蒂皮特先生的人。
There was no doubt, you know, they'd all described the same guy.
毫无疑问，你知道，他们都描述的是同一个人。
And then they said the suspect seen in the Texas Theater, which was about a block or so from where Tippit was killed.
然后他们说嫌疑人在德克萨斯剧院看到，距离蒂皮特被杀的地方大约一个街区。
So I took off running to the Texas Theater.
所以我开始跑去德克萨斯剧院。
I get to the door, open it up and here they're coming up the isle.
我走到门口，打开门，他们就上岛了。
Four or five policemen and right in front of me, maybe 15 or 20 feet, they jumped on Oswald.
四五个警察就在我面前，大约 15 或 20 英尺处，向奥斯瓦尔德扑去。
He put up a big fight.
他进行了一场激烈的斗争。
All I heard him say is, "I protest this police brutality," he said that twice.:
我只听到他说，“我抗议警察的暴行，”他说了两次：
Police Radio : Have they released any condition on the president?
警察电台：他们有向总统提出任何条件吗？
Police Radio : We understand he's D.O.A.
警察电台：我们知道他是 D.O.A.
too.
也。
CBS Cronkite : From Dallas, Texas the flash apparently official: President Kennedy died at 1pm Central Standard Time, two o'clock Eastern Standard time, some 38 minutes ago.
哥伦比亚广播公司克朗凯特：来自德克萨斯州达拉斯的消息显然是官方的：肯尼迪总统于中部标准时间下午 1 点、东部标准时间凌晨 2 点去世，大约 38 分钟前。
Vice President Lyndon Johnson has left the hospital in Dallas, but we do not know to where he has proceeded.
副总统林登·约翰逊已离开达拉斯的医院，但我们不知道他去了哪里。
Presumably he will be taking the oath of office shortly and become the 36th president of the United States.
据推测，他将很快宣誓就职，成为美国第36任总统。
Dan Rather, Reporter : I don't think I was alone, but I didn't know what to think.
记者丹·拉瑟：我不认为我是一个人，但我不知道该怎么想。
So much was happening so quickly and we were all dealing again with the emotional undertow of the assassination.
发生的事情如此之快，我们都再次面临着暗杀带来的情感冲击。
Confusion reigned inside the Dallas police station.
达拉斯警察局内一片混乱。
Journalists were descending from all over the world.
记者们从世界各地蜂拥而至。
Reporter : Oh cut it out!
记者：噢，别说了！
For Christ's sakes, you don't have to push!
看在上帝的份上，你不必催促！
Dan Rather, Reporter : It was a miasma of confusion, chaos and there were still echoes of, well is this the last of it or is there some conspiracy, foreign-led or otherwise, that led to all of this?
记者丹·拉瑟：那是一种混乱、混乱的气氛，而且仍然有这样的回声：这是最后一次还是有一些阴谋，无论是外国领导的还是其他的，导致了这一切？
Lee Harvey Oswald : I positively know nothing about this situation here.
Lee Harvey Oswald：我对这里的情况确实一无所知。
I would like to have legal representation.
我希望有法律代表。
Mark Lane, Attorney : First thing that made me think about this matter about Oswald's alleged guilt was when I saw him on television.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：当我在电视上看到他时，我首先想到了奥斯瓦尔德涉嫌有罪的事情。
As a defense lawyer I saw a guy and I thought he might be telling the truth when he said he didn't know anything.
作为一名辩护律师，我看到一个人，当他说他什么都不知道时，我认为他可能说的是实话。
He seemed really bewildered.
他看起来真的很困惑。
Lee Harvey Oswald : Uh, I really don't know what this situation is about.
Lee Harvey Oswald：呃，我真的不知道这是怎么回事。
Nobody has told me anything except that I am accused of ah ...
没有人告诉我任何事情，除了我被指控啊......
of murdering a policeman.
谋杀一名警察。
I know nothing more than that and I do request uh someone to come forward to give me legal assistance.
我只知道这些，我确实请求呃有人站出来给我提供法律援助。
Lee Harvey Oswald : No, I have not been charged with that, in fact nobody has said that to me yet.
李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德：不，我还没有因此受到指控，事实上还没有人对我说过这样的话。
The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the hall asked me that question.
我第一次听说这件事是当大厅里的报纸记者问我这个问题时。
Reporter : Nobody said what?
记者：没人说什么？
We can't hear you back here!
我们听不到你回来的声音！
Reporter : How did you hurt your eye?
记者：你的眼睛是怎么受伤的？
Oswald, how did you hurt your eye?
奥斯瓦尔德，你的眼睛怎么受伤了？
Mark Lane, Attorney: I thought if he had been in my office, I would have taken his remarks very, very seriously.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：我想如果他在我的办公室，我会非常非常认真地对待他的言论。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist: I would say most of the public thought Oswald probably did do it alone, but there is an interesting possibility he didn't, of course, the possibility that he had help.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：我想说，大多数公众都认为奥斯瓦尔德可能是独自完成的，但有一个有趣的可能性是他没有这样做，当然，他也有可能得到了帮助。
Robert Dallek, Historian : There were concerns among people close to Kennedy about his traveling to Dallas because the city had a reputation for being a bastion of the Right Wing.
历史学家罗伯特·达莱克：与肯尼迪关系密切的人对他前往达拉斯的旅行感到担忧，因为这座城市以右翼堡垒而闻名。
There was a General Edwin Walker there --
那里有一位埃德温·沃克将军——
General Edwin Walker : I am a target for destruction!
埃德温·沃克将军：我是毁灭的目标！
Robert Dallek, Historian : -- who was a quite extreme,
历史学家罗伯特·达莱克（Robert Dallek）：——他是一个相当极端的人，
Robert Dallek, Historian : -- fiercely anti-de-segregation,
历史学家罗伯特·达莱克（Robert Dallek）：——强烈反对废除种族隔离，
General Edwin Walker : I have drawn the battle line!
埃德温·沃克将军：我已经划定战线了！
Robert Dallek, Historian : -- fiercely anti-government.
罗伯特·达莱克，历史学家：——强烈反政府。
There had been an incident in October of '63.
63年10月曾发生过一起事件。
Adlai Stevenson who was Kennedy's Ambassador to the United Nations had been roughed up.
肯尼迪驻联合国大使阿德莱·史蒂文森曾遭到粗暴对待。
So people thought if anything was going to happen in Dallas that endangered Kennedy's life it would come from the Right Wing.
因此人们认为，如果达拉斯要发生任何危及肯尼迪生命的事情，那一定是来自右翼。
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : The Dallas Morning News editorial page was very, very vehement against Mr. Kennedy.
休·艾恩斯沃斯，记者：《达拉斯晨报》的社论页面非常非常激烈地反对肯尼迪先生。
And you know they ran that vicious ad the day he came here, "Welcome Mr. President" and then telling why he wasn't too welcome.
你知道，他来这里的那天，他们就刊登了那则恶毒的广告，“欢迎总统先生”，然后告诉我们为什么他不太受欢迎。
There was a small cadre of people here, some of the rich oil people, some of the far Right conservatives, and they were mean, and they were vitriolic, and they hated him.
这里有一小群人，一些富有的石油人，一些极右翼保守派，他们很卑鄙，他们很刻薄，他们恨他。
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : Huh?
调查员乔赛亚·汤普森：嗯？
In Dallas?
在达拉斯？
A Lefty shoots the president?
左撇子射杀总统？
Well, maybe, but I'm going to have to be shown.
好吧，也许吧，但我必须要表现出来。
I mean this was not high-level analysis.
我的意思是这不是高级分析。
Lee Harvey Oswald : I don't know what facts you people have been given but I emphatically deny these charges.
李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德：我不知道你们得到了什么事实，但我断然否认这些指控。
I have not committed any acts of violence.
我没有实施任何暴力行为。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : Well the evidence was, even at the beginning, was persuasive if not overwhelming.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：好吧，即使在一开始，证据即使不是压倒性的，也是有说服力的。
People had seen him enter and leave the Texas Book Depository.
人们亲眼目睹他进出德克萨斯图书仓库。
They found his rifle with his palm print on it.
他们发现了他的步枪，上面有他的掌纹。
He shot a policeman and the casings of the bullets found around the policeman's body matched his pistol.
他射杀了一名警察，在警察尸体周围发现的子弹壳与他的手枪相符。
The only thing that was questioned was, would he confess or was he being framed?
唯一被质疑的是，他会坦白还是被陷害？
KLIF Radio Reporter : A shot rung out!
KLIF电台记者：一声枪响！
A shot has rung out!
一声枪响！
And Lee Harvey Oswald falls!
李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德倒下了！
Lee Harvey Oswald has fallen!
李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德倒下了！
A shot has rung out here!
这里响起了枪声！
A shot is being ...
一枪正在...
And ladies and gentleman, Lee Harvey Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald has just been shot!
女士们先生们，李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德，李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德刚刚被枪杀！
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : I couldn't see it 'cause there were too many people between me.
Hugh Aynesworth，记者：我看不到它，因为我之间有太多人。
But I heard a pop, one, and then somebody said, 'they say his name is Jack Ruby.' And I thought, 'Oh my god, Jack Ruby.' I know that guy, you know.
但我听到砰的一声，然后有人说，“他们说他的名字叫杰克·鲁比。”我想，‘天哪，杰克·鲁比。’我认识那个人，你知道。
I know him.
我认识他。
Reporter : Here comes Oswald.
记者：奥斯瓦尔德来了。
He is ashen and unconscious at this time now being moved in.
他此时面色苍白，昏迷不醒，正在被搬进去。
He is not moving.
他没有动。
He is in the ambulance now, attendants, police are ...
他现在在救护车里，服务员、警察……
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : This seemed just really odd.
Josiah Thompson，调查员：这看起来真的很奇怪。
I mean the whole, the whole picture being presented that an obscure so-called leftist in the middle of right-wing Dallas should end up shooting the president and then himself being murdered within days, seemed extremely difficult to believe.
我的意思是，整个画面显示，达拉斯右翼中间的一个不起眼的所谓左派最终会枪杀总统，然后他自己在几天内被谋杀，这似乎极其难以置信。
Tom Hayden : These things cause an indelible impression regardless of what, you know, printed evidence materializes later.
汤姆·海登：这些事情都会给人留下不可磨灭的印象，无论后来印刷的证据是什么。
The impression is somebody organized a conspiracy to wipe out Oswald.
给人的印象是有人组织了一场阴谋来消灭奥斯瓦尔德。
Hughes Rudd : The man who shot Lee Harvey Oswald has been identified as Jack Ruby, R-U-B-Y.
休斯·路德：枪杀李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德的男子已被确认为杰克·鲁比，R-U-B-Y。
He runs a place in Dallas called the Carousel Club which is a kind of a strip joint and nightclub.
他在达拉斯经营一家名为“旋转木马俱乐部”的地方，这是一种脱衣舞俱乐部和夜总会。
He has been seen around the City Hall for the last two days and he was even handing out cards offering free drinks to reporters yesterday.
过去两天，有人看到他出现在市政厅周围，昨天他甚至向记者发放免费饮料的卡片。
Reporter : Does he realize that what he's done will perhaps create a question for the rest of history, who killed President Kennedy?
记者：他是否意识到他的所作所为可能会给历史留下一个疑问：谁杀死了肯尼迪总统？
Reporter : Jack would you say something?
记者：杰克，你能说点什么吗？
Why did you do it, Jack?
你为什么这么做，杰克？
Do you have anything to say?
你有什么话要说吗？
Jack?
杰克？
Harry Reasoner : As those of you know who have been watching, this fantastic event was being recorded on videotape here at CBS News headquarters.
Harry Reasoner：正如你们这些一直在观看的人所知道的那样，这一奇妙的事件正在哥伦比亚广播公司新闻总部录制成录像。
We have now re-cued the tape.
我们现在已经重新播放了磁带。
Todd Gitlin, Student Activist : When the assassin is assassinated on television this is not only appalling, it's also uncanny.
托德·吉特林，学生活动家：当刺客在电视上被暗杀时，这不仅令人震惊，而且令人难以置信。
Being witnesses in this odd way via television, you are an extra in this, you know, historical drama, and you are therefore implicated in it.
通过电视以这种奇怪的方式成为目击者，你是这出历史剧中的临时演员，因此你也被卷入其中。
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : The Kennedy assassination was a kind of tectonic shift, and we knew it at the time.
乔赛亚·汤普森（Josiah Thompson），调查员：肯尼迪遇刺事件是一种结构性转变，我们当时就知道这一点。
Something had shifted under our feet.
我们脚下有什么东西发生了变化。
And we knew during that weekend and certainly within days of that weekend in November 1963, that things would never be the same again.
在那个周末，当然，在 1963 年 11 月那个周末之后的几天内，我们知道事情将永远不会再一样了。
Gary Hart, U.S. Senator : The image of politicians up to that time was a kind of a stereotypical backroom, arm-twisting, deal-making character.
美国参议员加里·哈特：当时政客的形象是一种刻板的幕后、施压、促成交易的角色。
And along came this very attractive, very articulate 44-year old.
这位非常有魅力、非常善于表达的 44 岁年轻人出现了。
War hero.
战争英雄。
Intelligent.
聪明的。
Read books.
读书。
Knew history.
了解历史。
So he almost totally single-handedly transformed the image of a politician.
所以他几乎完全凭一己之力改变了政治家的形象。
John F.
约翰·F.
Kennedy : The energy, the faith, the devotion, which we bring to this endeavor, will light our country and all who serve it and the glow that fire can truly light the world.
肯尼迪：我们为这一努力所付出的能量、信念和奉献，将照亮我们的国家和所有为之服务的人，火焰将真正照亮世界。
Tom Hayden : We thought that we could change the world.
汤姆·海登：我们认为我们可以改变世界。
This is the key thing that I think ended, for me certainly, with the murder of Kennedy.
我认为这对我来说当然是随着肯尼迪被谋杀而结束的关键事情。
Priscilla Johnson McMillan, Historian : I worked for him in the spring of 1953 when he was a newly elected Senator.
历史学家 Priscilla Johnson McMillan：1953 年春天我为他工作，当时他还是新当选的参议员。
I liked him.
我喜欢他。
He was a lot of fun.
他很有趣。
I think Kennedy's main response to being shot would be curiosity, to know why.
我认为肯尼迪对被枪杀的主要反应是好奇，想知道为什么。
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : Kennedy was different.
休·艾恩斯沃斯，记者：肯尼迪是不同的。
Everyone either loved or hated him, but he was something special.
每个人要么爱他要么恨他，但他很特别。
And the way it happened and the way with Jack Ruby and what he did afterward, killing Oswald, made it seem like a unsolved forever murder.
事情发生的方式、杰克·鲁比的方式以及他后来杀死奥斯瓦尔德的行为，让这看起来像是一场悬而未决的永远谋杀案。
Norman Mailer, Novelist : Naturally conspiracy theories began immediately, and they were very heavy.
诺曼·梅勒，小说家：自然，阴谋论立即开始出现，而且非常沉重。
And a good many of us spent many years looking for a conspiracy, I certainly was one of them.
我们中的很多人花了很多年的时间寻找阴谋，我当然是其中之一。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : One was that Fidel Castro had influenced Oswald to do it.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：其中之一是菲德尔·卡斯特罗影响了奥斯瓦尔德这样做。
Another was that it was done by a rogue element in the CIA.
另一种说法是，这是中情局内部的流氓分子干的。
Another even more serious one was that the KGB or the Russian government had ordered it.
另一个更严重的问题是克格勃或俄罗斯政府下令的。
There were many, many elements all of which could raise all sort of uh ghosts from the past.
有很多很多的元素，所有这些都可以唤起过去的各种呃鬼魂。
Johnson thought the best thing was creating an impartial Commission of seven prominent men of unimpeachable reputations and that they could do an exhaustive investigation and put to rest the rumors.
约翰逊认为最好的办法是成立一个由七位声誉无可挑剔的知名人士组成的公正委员会，他们可以进行详尽的调查并平息谣言。
Robert Dallek, Historian : There was a race to get the Warren Commission Report out before the '64 election to quiet the issue, to put it aside so to speak, whether temporarily or permanently, but at least temporarily.
历史学家罗伯特·达莱克（Robert Dallek）：在 64 年大选之前，人们竞相发布沃伦委员会报告，以平息这个问题，可以这么说，无论是暂时还是永久，但至少暂时搁置。
There was a certain attitude on Johnson's part that if you have people like John J.
约翰逊有一种特定的态度：如果有像约翰·J·约翰逊这样的人。
McCloy and Richard Russell and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Earl Warren, the country is going to accept this.
麦克洛伊、理查德·拉塞尔以及最高法院首席大法官厄尔·沃伦，国家将会接受这一点。
Dan Rather, Reporter : The Warren Commission hearings were not televised and why they weren't, I don't know.
丹·拉瑟（记者）：沃伦委员会的听证会没有电视转播，我不知道为什么没有电视转播。
I think the attitude of the country was, 'we need to know what happened, but we need to move on.' Unity is important in the wake of a tremendously dangerous event such as this, so let's give the government the benefit of even very serious doubt.
我认为这个国家的态度是，“我们需要知道发生了什么，但我们需要继续前进。”在发生这样的极其危险的事件之后，团结非常重要，所以让我们对政府给予哪怕是非常严重的怀疑也是有利的。
White House operator : J.
白宫接线员：J.
Edgar Hoover on 2192.
埃德加·胡佛，2192。
Lyndon Johnson : How many, how many, how many shots were fired?
林登·约翰逊：开了多少枪、多少枪？
Lyndon Johnson : Any of them fired at me?
林登·约翰逊：他们中有人向我开枪吗？
Lyndon Johnson : All three at the president?
林登·约翰逊：这三个人都担任总统？
J.
J。
Edgar Hoover : All three at the president and we have them.
埃德加·胡佛：总统的三位都在，我们都有。
Two of the shots fired at the president were splintered, uh but they had characteristics on 'em so that our ballistics expert was able to prove that they were fired from this gun.
向总统发射的两发子弹都碎裂了，呃，但是它们具有特征，因此我们的弹道专家能够证明它们是从这把枪中发射的。
Lyndon Johnson : Did you get a picture of him, shooting?
林登·约翰逊：你拍到他射击的照片了吗？
J.
J。
Edgar Hoover : Oh no, there was no picture taken of him shooting.
埃德加·胡佛：哦不，没有拍摄到他开枪的照片。
Lyndon Johnson : Well what was this picture that that fellow sold for $25,000?
林登·约翰逊：那个家伙以 25,000 美元出售的这张照片是什么？
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : Abraham Zapruder picked the one location in Dealey Plaza that a Hollywood film crew would have picked if they were going to film the assassination.
乔赛亚·汤普森（Josiah Thompson），调查员：亚伯拉罕·扎普鲁德（Abraham Zapruder）选择了迪利广场（Dealey Plaza）的一个地点，如果好莱坞电影摄制组要拍摄暗杀事件，他们也会选择这个地点。
Jay Watson : May I have your name please, sir?
杰·沃森：先生，请问您的名字吗？
Abraham Zapruder : My name is Abraham Zapruder.
亚伯拉罕·扎普鲁德：我的名字是亚伯拉罕·扎普鲁德。
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : Within seconds Zapruder knew he had an enormously valuable property.
乔赛亚·汤普森（Josiah Thompson），调查员：几秒钟之内，扎普鲁德就知道他拥有一笔非常有价值的财产。
Abraham Zapruder : I got out and uh about a half hour earlier and get myself a good spot to shoot some pictures.
亚伯拉罕·扎普鲁德（Abraham Zapruder）：我大约半小时前就下车了，找了个好地方拍了一些照片。
Dan Rather, Reporter : He got an attorney and the attorney said, 'Here's what is going to happen, we have a projector in a room here, we are going to put the film up once, and one time only so you can see it and know what he has and then I'll talk to you about some arrangements.
记者丹·拉瑟：他找了一位律师，律师说，‘接下来会发生什么，我们这里的一个房间里有一台投影仪，我们要把电影放一次，而且只放一次，这样你就可以看到它并知道他有什么，然后我会和你谈谈一些安排。
Which was whether the film was going to be for sale and if so, how much.
问题是这部电影是否会出售，如果出售，售价是多少。
Because I saw the film and came back and described it on the television before anybody had seen it and before anybody else had described it, I was thrust into the middle of the controversy over the Kennedy assassination.
因为我看完了这部电影，然后回来在电视上描述了它，在任何人都没有看过它之前，在其他人描述它之前，我被推入了肯尼迪遇刺的争议之中。
Dan Rather, Reporter : At that moment when the president had his right hand up to this side of his face, he lurched just a bit forward.
记者丹·拉瑟：就在总统将右手举到脸这边的那一刻，他向前倾斜了一点。
It was obvious that the first shot had hit him.
很明显，第一枪就击中了他。
Governor Connally with his coat open his button was undone, turned in this manner.
康纳利州长的外套敞开着，纽扣被解开了，变成了这样。
The Governor was obviously hit by a bullet.
总督显然是中弹了。
Another bullet obviously hit the head of the president.
另一颗子弹显然击中了总统的头部。
The president's head went forward violently in this manner.
总统的头就这样猛地向前探去。
Mark Lane, Attorney : I don't know why Dan Rather, Reporter said that.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：我不知道记者丹·拉瑟（Danrath）为什么这么说。
It was clear that the head went backward.
很明显，头向后仰了。
You can tell it in LIFE Magazine when they published it.
当《生活》杂志发表时，你可以看到这一点。
The bullet hit him in the head and his head went backward.
子弹击中了他的头部，他的头向后仰去。
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : LIFE Magazine purchased all rights to the film but did not release it for television use supposedly on taste reasons.
乔赛亚·汤普森（Josiah Thompson），调查员：《生活》杂志购买了这部电影的所有版权，但没有将其发布到电视上，据说是出于口味原因。
If that film had been shown on television on the week of November 22nd or in the subsequent weeks at that time, raises the interesting question whether anybody would have bought the notion that a single lone-nut firing from behind the president had brought this off.
如果这部电影在 11 月 22 日这一周或随后的几周内在电视上播放，就会产生一个有趣的问题，是否有人会相信总统背后的一次孤单射击就导致了这一切。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : There were doubts of the direction the shots came in.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：人们对枪击的方向表示怀疑。
There were doubts that this wasn't a political assassination.
有人怀疑这不是一场政治暗杀。
There were rumors that Oswald was maybe being framed because he was a Communist, at this point his mother was saying he was being framed.
有传言称奥斯瓦尔德可能因为是共产党员而被陷害，此时他的母亲说他被陷害了。
Marguerite Oswald : I have more circumstantial evidence to substantiate this fact than the Dallas police have.
玛格丽特·奥斯瓦尔德：我比达拉斯警方拥有更多的间接证据来证实这一事实。
Also, I believe that Lee was a government agent, and there's many reasons why I believe this.
另外，我相信李是一名政府特工，我相信这一点的理由有很多。
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : Oswald's mother, Marguerite, was one of the weirdest people I've ever run into.
休·艾恩斯沃斯，记者：奥斯瓦尔德的母亲玛格丽特是我遇到过的最奇怪的人之一。
Some people were actually afraid of her and I can understand why.
有些人实际上害怕她，我可以理解为什么。
Marguerite Oswald : Lee Harvey Oswald, my son, even after his death, has done more for his country than any other living human being.
玛格丽特·奥斯瓦尔德：我的儿子李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德，即使在他死后，仍然为他的国家做出了比任何其他活着的人都多的贡献。
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : She was constantly calling me claiming that he was involved in a conspiracy with the CIA and all.
休·艾恩斯沃斯，记者：她不断打电话给我，声称他参与了中央情报局等人的阴谋。
She said, 'My son is innocent, he was an FBI agent.' She was always groveling for money for interviews for anything.
她说：“我的儿子是无辜的，他是联邦调查局特工。”她总是卑躬屈膝地要钱接受任何采访。
And then she got involved with Mark Lane, Attorney.
然后她与律师马克·莱恩交往。
Mark Lane, Attorney had written a story in the National Guardian listing many, many reasons why Oswald couldn't have done it alone.
马克·莱恩律师在《国家卫报》上写了一篇文章，列出了奥斯瓦尔德无法独自完成这件事的许多很多原因。
This was early on, probably early December of '63.
那是早些时候，大概是 63 年 12 月初。
Mark Lane, Attorney : The article said there are unanswered questions about the assassination of president Kennedy.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：文章称，有关肯尼迪总统遇刺事件的问题尚未得到解答。
Soon after that, I got a phone call from Marguerite Oswald and she said, "you are the only lawyer in American who says there is a question about whether he did it." So I flew down to Dallas to talk with her.
不久之后，我接到玛格丽特·奥斯瓦尔德 (Marguerite Oswald) 的电话，她说：“你是美国唯一一个对他是否干过这件事存在疑问的律师。”所以我飞往达拉斯与她交谈。
I never thought about being Oswald's attorney, but Marguerite Oswald told me that she believed that her son worked for the United States government in some capacity and that he had specialized training in Russian, that he was allowed to bring his wife back from Russia and the government paid for his coming back.
我从未想过要成为奥斯瓦尔德的律师，但玛格丽特·奥斯瓦尔德告诉我，她相信她的儿子以某种身份为美国政府工作，并且他接受过俄语专门培训，他被允许从俄罗斯带回妻子，政府为他的回来支付了费用。
And she was sure he had never been involved in killing the president, and she asked me to represent her son's interests.
她确信他从未参与刺杀总统，所以她要求我代表她儿子的利益。
Mark Lane, Attorney : I am certain that if the case were tried based upon the facts which were submitted to the public on November 24th by the District Attorney of Dallas, there could have been no conviction.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：我确信，如果根据达拉斯地方检察官 11 月 24 日向公众提交的事实来审理此案，就不可能有罪。
Because I think it is quite plain that the shots, some of the shots or at least one of the shots that was fired which struck the president was fired from in front of the president not from the rear.
因为我认为很明显，击中总统的枪声、部分枪声或至少其中一枪是从总统前面发射的，而不是从后面发射的。
Reporter : Oswald's widow is back for a second session with the Warren Commission's investigation of the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy today and reportedly told the investigators she once locked her husband in a room after he threatened to kill former Vice President Richard Nixon.
记者：奥斯瓦尔德的遗孀今天回来参加沃伦委员会对约翰·菲茨杰拉德·肯尼迪总统遇刺事件的调查的第二次会议，据报道，她告诉调查人员，在她的丈夫威胁要杀死前副总统理查德·尼克松后，她曾将他锁在一个房间里。
Priscilla Johnson McMillan, Historian : The people on the Commission whom I spoke to when I testified, they were working on Oswald and they were very psychoanalytically oriented.
普里西拉·约翰逊·麦克米伦，历史学家：当我作证时，我采访过委员会中的那些人，他们正在研究奥斯瓦尔德，而且他们非常注重精神分析。
I testified that I went to Moscow in the summer of 1958 and got a job with the North American Newspaper Alliance.
我作证说，我于 1958 年夏天去了莫斯科，并在北美报业联盟找到了一份工作。
I found out that this young defector was staying in the Metropol Hotel.
我发现这个年轻的叛逃者住在大都会酒店。
So I went by his room and he wanted to talk about Soviet economics and Marxism.
于是我经过他的房间，他想谈谈苏联经济学和马克思主义。
He talked also about discrimination, racial discrimination.
他还谈到了歧视、种族歧视。
I wanted to ask him why he wanted to leave the United States.
我想问他为什么要离开美国。
And he said that if he stayed in the United States his fate would be like that of his mother; he would be poor, he would work hard.
他说，如果他留在美国，他的命运就会像他母亲一样；他会很穷，他会努力工作。
He thought he was more than he was and he sought to identify himself with something big.
他认为自己超越了自己，并试图通过一些伟大的事情来证明自己。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : At a certain point, the Warren Commission decided to do a reconstruction of how Oswald could have fired three bullets in a very brief period of less than six seconds.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：在某个时刻，沃伦委员会决定重建奥斯瓦尔德如何在不到六秒的非常短的时间内发射三颗子弹。
So, they set up a rifle where that rifle was, and they drove a car at the same speed by the same secret servicemen.
因此，他们在那支步枪所在的地方架起了一支步枪，由同样的特勤人员以同样的速度驾驶汽车。
And when they finished photographing it they found that the foliage on the trees blocked a few seconds of the window of opportunity that Oswald had to fire the bullets.
当他们完成拍摄时，他们发现树上的树叶挡住了奥斯瓦尔德必须发射子弹的机会之窗几秒钟。
And so at this point Arlen Specter, who was the junior council on the Warren Commission, came up with a theory of how it could be done by one bullet going through the president and continuing on and hitting John Connally.
因此，此时，沃伦委员会初级委员会的阿伦·斯佩克特提出了一种理论，即如何通过一颗子弹穿过总统并继续击中约翰·康纳利来实现这一点。
This was all a hypothesis and people later referred to it as the Single Bullet Theory or the Magic Bullet Theory.
这只是一个假设，后来人们将其称为“单子弹理论”或“魔弹理论”。
A number of Commissioners like John McCloy and Allen Dulles didn't accept that there was any evidence backing this hypothesis, but they didn't have any alternative.
约翰·麦克洛伊（John McCloy）和艾伦·杜勒斯（Allen Dulles）等许多委员不认为有任何证据支持这一假设，但他们也别无选择。
All of the Commissioners felt that Oswald had fired the bullets that had killed Kennedy, they didn't have any doubts about that.
所有委员都认为奥斯瓦尔德射出了杀死肯尼迪的子弹，他们对此没有任何怀疑。
Richard Russell : The Commission believes that the same bullet that hit Kennedy hit Connally.
理查德·拉塞尔：委员会认为击中肯尼迪的那颗子弹也击中了康纳利。
Well I don't believe it.
好吧，我不相信。
Richard Russell : And so I couldn't sign it.
理查德·拉塞尔：所以我无法签名。
And I said that Governor Connally testified directly to the contrary and I'm not going to approve of that.
我说过康纳利州长直接作证相反，我不会同意这一点。
So I finally made them say that there was difference in the Commission in that.
所以我最终让他们说委员会在这方面存在差异。
Part of them believed that that wasn't so.
他们中的一部分人认为事实并非如此。
But anyhow that is just a little thing ...
但无论如何，这只是一件小事……
Lyndon Johnson : So what's the net of the whole thing, what does it say?
林登·约翰逊：那么整个事情的真相是什么？它说了什么？
That Oswald did it and he did it for any reason?
奥斯瓦尔德这么做了，而且他这么做是出于什么原因？
Richard Russell : Well, just that he was a general misanthropic fellow that he had never been satisfied anywhere he was in Russia or here and that he had a desire to get his name in history and all.
理查德·拉塞尔：好吧，只是他是一个普遍厌恶人类的人，他在俄罗斯或这里的任何地方都从未感到满足，并且他渴望让自己的名字载入史册。
I don't think that you'll be displeased with the Report.
我认为您不会对该报告不满意。
It is too long, but it's four volumes.
虽然太长了，但是有四卷。
Walter Cronkite : It is now 15-seconds after 6:30 pm Eastern Daylight time, Sunday September the 27th.
沃尔特·克朗凯特：现在是 9 月 27 日星期日，东部夏令时间下午 6:30 后 15 秒。
As of this moment, the report of the President's Commission is public record.
截至目前，总统委员会的报告已公开记录。
For the next half hour we will search it for answers.
在接下来的半个小时里，我们将寻找答案。
First must come the answers to the two great overriding questions: who killed John F.
首先必须回答两个最重要的问题：谁杀了约翰·肯尼迪。
Kennedy?
肯尼迪？
The Commission answers unequivocally, Lee Harvey Oswald.
委员会明确回答，李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德。
Was Oswald acting alone or was he a member of a conspiracy?
奥斯瓦尔德是单独行动还是阴谋的成员？
The Commission answers he acted alone.
委员会回答说他是单独行动的。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : When the Warren Report came out in September of 1964 it was universally accepted by the establishment media.
爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦，记者：1964 年 9 月《沃伦报告》发布后，它被建制媒体普遍接受。
If one reads LIFE Magazine or what Dan Rather, Reporter said on CBS, it was taken as almost as a biblical pronouncement.
如果有人读过《生活》杂志或哥伦比亚广播公司记者丹·拉瑟的言论，就会被视为几乎是圣经的宣告。
Robert Dallek, Historian : Johnson to the end of his life, I'm convinced, believed that there was some kind of conspiracy.
历史学家罗伯特·达莱克：我确信，约翰逊直到生命的最后一刻都相信存在某种阴谋。
He never fully trusted the Warren Commission's conclusion that the only killer was Lee Harvey Oswald.
他从未完全相信沃伦委员会的结论，即唯一的凶手是李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德。
But Johnson was a man with powerful paranoid impulses and thoughts.
但约翰逊是一个有着强烈偏执冲动和思想的人。
At first, he thought it was the South Vietnamese who were retaliating for the coup detach that toppled the Diem government and the killing of Ngo Dinh Diem in Saigon, which happened roughly three weeks before Kennedy was killed.
起初，他认为是南越人在报复推翻吴庭艳政府的政变和吴庭艳在西贡被杀，这件事发生在肯尼迪遇害前大约三周。
Indeed, it was a coup d'etat sanctioned by Washington so there was instant suspicion in Lyndon Johnson's mind.
事实上，这是一场得到华盛顿批准的政变，林登·约翰逊心中立刻产生了怀疑。
Now over time, Johnson moved away from that, continued to believe there was a conspiracy, but now believed it came out of Cuba, 'cause he learned that there had been assassination plots in CIA circles to take out Castro.
现在，随着时间的推移，约翰逊不再相信这一点，继续相信这是一个阴谋，但现在相信它来自古巴，因为他得知中央情报局圈子里一直存在暗杀卡斯特罗的阴谋。
Johnson would say they were thinking of assassinating Castro, but he got to Kennedy first.
约翰逊会说他们正在考虑刺杀卡斯特罗，但他首先找到了肯尼迪。
So, he needs to show the Soviets, the Chinese Communists, the Cuban Communists that he's tough.
因此，他需要向苏联、中国共产党、古巴共产党表明他是强硬的。
And the one place he sees where he can do this most directly, most efficiently is in Vietnam.
他认为可以最直接、最有效地做到这一点的地方是越南。
Norman Mailer, Novelist : You know, what you've got is this comedy of conspiratorialists top and bottom.
小说家诺曼·梅勒：你知道，你所看到的是这部阴谋论者的喜剧。
The conspiratorialists who were in on it and didn't know how much they were in on it.
那些参与其中的阴谋家并不知道自己参与了多少。
Then you had the people who were out of it, the amateurs like myself, who were out of it, but kept believing that they were on in it.
然后就有了那些不参与其中的人，像我这样的业余爱好者，他们不参与其中，但仍然相信自己参与其中。
You know, it spread out.
你知道，它传播开来了。
It was an incredible morass of possibilities.
这是一个令人难以置信的可能性的泥潭。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : My book came out in April 1966 and opened a door.
爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦，记者：我的书于 1966 年 4 月出版，打开了一扇门。
The entire thesis of my book is that the Warren Commission, although an honest organization, did not do an exhaustive investigation and could have overlooked certain areas and those areas could have included a conspiracy.
我的书的整个论点是，沃伦委员会虽然是一个诚实的组织，但没有进行详尽的调查，并且可能忽视了某些领域，而这些领域可能包含阴谋。
And then Mark Lane, Attorney, whose book Rush to Judgment became a much bigger best-seller than mine, had a sort of conspiracy theory where the Commission itself was in on the conspiracy to hide the evidence.
然后，律师马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）提出了一种阴谋论，认为委员会本身也参与了隐藏证据的阴谋，他的《急于判断》一书成为比我的畅销书大得多的书。
Mark Lane, Attorney : The book took off, became the number one best-selling book in America and many other countries, a best selling book throughout the world.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：这本书一炮而红，成为美国和许多其他国家的畅销书第一名，甚至是全世界的畅销书。
It became really clear that there was a great interest in this and nobody was talking about it beside me at that point.
很明显，人们对此很感兴趣，当时除了我之外没有人在谈论它。
Kenneth Harris : Mark Lane, Attorney sitting over there represents the doubters tonight.
肯尼思·哈里斯：今晚坐在那里的马克·莱恩律师代表了怀疑者。
And to hear and answer the criticism of the Warren Report which we shall hear from him, we have Arlen Specter, District Attorney in Philadelphia.
为了听取并回答我们将从他那里听到的对沃伦报告的批评，我们请来了费城地方检察官阿伦·斯佩克特。
Mark Lane, Attorney : Let me tell you about the very intelligent people who take the position that Oswald acted alone.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：让我告诉你一些非常聪明的人，他们采取了奥斯瓦尔德单独行动的立场。
Arlen Specter is a very good example.
阿伦·斯佩克特就是一个很好的例子。
Specter invented the Magic Bullet Theory, he and David Belin.
斯佩克特和大卫·贝林发明了魔弹理论。
They knew it was false.
他们知道这是假的。
They still know it's false.
他们仍然知道这是假的。
Arlen Specter : It is perfectly plain, I submit to you, that the bullet that exited from President Kennedy's throat would have to strike either the automobile, which it did not, or someone else in the automobile.
阿伦·斯佩克特：我向你保证，很明显，从肯尼迪总统喉咙射出的子弹要么击中汽车（但它没有击中），要么击中汽车中的其他人。
And Governor Connally was lined up right in front of him.
康纳利州长就在他面前排队。
Kenneth Harris : Let me go to Mr. Lane, Attorney now because he'd like to say a word --
肯尼思·哈里斯：现在让我去见莱恩律师，因为他想说一句话——
Arlen Specter : No, no!
阿伦·斯佩克特：不，不！
I object to that now.
我现在反对这一点。
We have a format here.
我们这里有一个格式。
No, sir!
不，先生！
I am about to go into the single bullet conclusion under our arrangement here.
我将根据我们的安排在此进行单一结论。
Mark Lane, Attorney : What is the format?
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：格式是什么？
Is the format one which precludes my commenting?
这种格式是否妨碍我发表评论？
I'm afraid I am unfamiliar with that format.
恐怕我不熟悉这种格式。
Arlen Specter : We are not trying to hide a thing from you, or from Mr. Epstein, Journalist, or from Mr. Lane, Attorney, or the world.
阿伦·斯佩克特：我们并不是想向您、记者爱泼斯坦先生、律师莱恩先生或全世界隐瞒任何事情。
That we are laying it all out that's right here from the notes of testimony.
我们正在把这一切都从证词笔记中列出来。
And if we have transposed in error a 'possibly' into a 'probably' then we are delighted to have you point it out to us.
如果我们错误地将“可能”转换为“可能”，那么我们很高兴您向我们指出这一点。
But you can do so only because we've laid it on the line.
但您只能这样做，因为我们已将其置于危险之中。
Kenneth Harris : Mr. Lane, Attorney let me conduct this little discussion with Mr. Specter.
肯尼思·哈里斯：莱恩先生，律师让我与斯佩克特先生进行这个小讨论。
Well, I quite agree and of course it is too uh ...
嗯，我非常同意，当然这也太呃......
Mark Lane, Attorney : But I'd like to comment on a number of things.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：但我想对一些事情发表评论。
Kenneth Harris : Well I'd like to say one thing Mr. Lane, Attorney that there may be a slight misunderstanding here.
肯尼思·哈里斯：嗯，莱恩先生，律师，我想说一件事，这里可能存在轻微的误解。
Mark Lane, Attorney : I'm afraid there is.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：恐怕是有的。
At least five shots were fired and shots came from at least two different directions at basically the same time.
至少开了五枪，并且枪声基本上同时来自至少两个不同的方向。
That's the definition of a conspiracy.
这就是阴谋的定义。
As soon as my book came out the first Gallup poll showed that two thirds of the American people said they did not believe the Warren Report.
我的书一出版，第一次盖洛普民意调查显示，三分之二的美国人表示他们不相信沃伦报告。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : Going from a view that the Warren Commission states the single truth to one where the Warren Commission is corrupt and incompetent, had a lot to do with the zeitgeist of the time.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：从认为沃伦委员会陈述了唯一事实的观点到沃伦委员会腐败无能的观点，与当时的时代精神有很大关系。
Had a lot to do with the Vietnam War.
与越南战争有很大关系。
Had a lot to do with the idea that the public was doubting the creditability of the institutions including the government and the media that they had believed in 1964 they no longer believed in 1967.
这与公众怀疑包括政府和媒体在内的机构的可信度有很大关系，他们在 1964 年相信，但在 1967 年不再相信。
And once the public no longer believed in the government, they were more willing to believe that Mark Lane, Attorney would interpret a Zapruder film more correctly than a prosecutor like Arlen Specter.
一旦公众不再相信政府，他们就更愿意相信马克·莱恩律师会比阿伦·斯佩克特这样的检察官更正确地解读扎普鲁德的电影。
Mark Lane, Attorney : All of these things were happening now.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：所有这些事情现在都在发生。
There were many changes taking place in America.
美国发生了很多变化。
In terms of the war, if you believe that the government lies to us about what was taking place in Vietnam, how can you believe anything the government tells us about the assassination of President Kennedy?
就战争而言，如果您认为政府在越南发生的事情上对我们撒谎，那么您怎么能相信政府告诉我们有关肯尼迪总统遇刺的任何事情呢？
How can you believe anything they tell us?
你怎么能相信他们告诉我们的任何事情？
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : The Vietnam War.
乔赛亚·汤普森，调查员：越南战争。
The lies.
谎言。
The lie after lie after lie.
一个又一个谎言。
Beginning in Dallas, beginning with that event, one begins to wonder a bit who we are, where we're going, what's really happening to us?
从达拉斯开始，从那次事件开始，人们开始想知道我们是谁，我们要去哪里，我们到底发生了什么？
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : Some people specialized in one area like the Tippit murder.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：有些人专门研究某一领域，比如蒂皮特谋杀案。
Some people specialized in Jack Ruby, the ballistics, the eyewitnesses.
有些人专门研究杰克·鲁比、弹道学、目击者。
They all had their own turf.
他们都有自己的地盘。
But what people focused on was the actual mechanics of whether one person could have fired three bullets in a very brief period of less than six seconds.
但人们关注的是一个人能否在不到六秒的短暂时间内发射三颗子弹的实际机制。
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : I focused on what happened in Dealey Plaza because it seems to me that's the threshold question.
Josiah Thompson，调查员：我关注迪利广场发生的事情，因为在我看来这是一个门槛问题。
That's the threshold question.
这就是门槛问题。
That you can't answer any of the other questions like: who did it, or why did they do it, until you know what happened with some degree of, precision.
你无法回答任何其他问题，例如：是谁干的，或者他们为什么这么做，直到你以某种程度的精确性知道发生了什么。
Right?
正确的？
So, I think that question had logical priority.
所以，我认为这个问题具有逻辑优先性。
Here is the next frame, 239 ...
这是下一帧，239 ...
The Zapruder film was the basic evidence in the case.
扎普鲁德的影片是本案的基本证据。
I had seen the film in the Archives and that film had shown with indescribable violence the president hit in the head and boom!
我在档案馆看过这部电影，那部电影以难以形容的暴力方式展示了总统击中头部和轰隆隆！
You see his body bowled over, backwards and to the left.
你可以看到他的身体向后、向左翻倒。
Reporter standup : Standing here at this film viewing machine in the motion picture research room of the National Archives, the serious researcher trying to find out just as the Warren Commission did, exactly what happened that day in Dallas, can view over and over again, three times on this one reel, the motion pictures made my amateur Abraham Zapruder that day in Dallas.
记者站立：站在国家档案馆电影研究室的这台观影机前，严肃的研究人员试图像沃伦委员会那样找出达拉斯那天到底发生了什么，可以一遍又一遍地观看，在这一卷轴上看三遍，电影让我的业余爱好者亚伯拉罕·扎普鲁德那天在达拉斯。
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : It's shocking.
乔赛亚·汤普森（Josiah Thompson），调查员：这太令人震惊了。
Just shocking.
简直令人震惊。
My conclusion was that shots came from three directions.
我的结论是射击来自三个方向。
That two shots came from the Depository window.
那两声枪响是从保管库的窗口传来的。
That one shot came from a specific location behind the stockade fence.
那一枪是从栅栏后面的特定位置发出的。
And another shot probably came from the roof of the Records building, kitty-corner across the street.
另一张枪声可能来自街对面的唱片公司大楼的屋顶。
Mark Lane, Attorney : From forward in this direction to backwards sharply and to the left.
马克·莱恩 (Mark Lane) 律师：从这个方向向前到急速向后和向左。
At almost every college I spoke at it was the largest turn out in the history of the school for any lecture.
在我演讲的几乎每一所大学里，这都是该校历史上参加演讲人数最多的一次。
Did you read any of this material in the Warren Commission Report?
您读过沃伦委员会报告中的任何此类材料吗？
Is there a discussion of what frames 312 to 321 show?
是否讨论了第 312 到 321 帧显示的内容？
No. And when that happened, then that happened with a lot of the news media also.
不。当这种情况发生时，很多新闻媒体也发生了这种情况。
They were raising questions.
他们提出问题。
Cliff Michelmore : Why is the nightmare still so fresh?
克里夫·米歇尔莫尔：为什么噩梦还那么新鲜？
It's still fresh and real because from within a few days of the assassination there were people who refused to believe that a crime of this magnitude could have such a simple, pathetic solution.
这仍然是新鲜而真实的，因为从暗杀事件发生后的几天内，有人拒绝相信如此严重的犯罪可以有如此简单、可悲的解决方案。
At the start Lane, Attorney was almost alone.
莱恩一开始，律师几乎是孤身一人。
Now he is just one among a growing band of doubters.
现在，他只是越来越多的怀疑者之一。
And the doubters have had their effect.
怀疑者已经产生了影响。
They've argued on television, talked into the night on the radio, produced their own versions of what happened.
他们在电视上争论，在广播中聊到深夜，对所发生的事情提出了自己的版本。
Jim Garrison : There is no question about it.
吉姆·加里森：这是毫无疑问的。
We know what cities were involved.
我们知道涉及哪些城市。
We know how it was done in the essential respects.
我们知道它在基本方面是如何完成的。
We know the key individuals involved and uh we are in the process of developing evidence now.
我们知道所涉及的关键人物，呃我们现在正在收集证据。
I thought I made that clear days ago.
我想我几天前就已经说得很清楚了。
Mark Lane, Attorney : Jim Garrison, the New Orleans District Attorney, called me and said, "Can you come to New Orleans and help me out with this." And he'd read my book.
马克·莱恩 (Mark Lane) 律师：新奥尔良地方检察官吉姆·加里森 (Jim Garrison) 打电话给我说：“你能来新奥尔良帮我解决这个问题吗？”他读过我的书。
I was there when Garrison talked to the news media from his office, the first time anyone said what he said, which is "Ladies and Gentleman, I have some information for you.
当加里森在他的办公室接受新闻媒体采访时，我就在场，这是第一次有人说出他所说的话：“女士们，先生们，我有一些信息要告诉你们。
Your CIA killed your president."
你们的中央情报局杀了你们的总统。”
Reporter : Do you plan to subpoena any member of the CIA to hear you?
记者：你打算传唤任何中央情报局成员来听你的听证会吗？
Jim Garrison : I'm sorry, I can't comment on plans in that way.
吉姆·加里森：抱歉，我不能以这种方式评论计划。
I have to talk in generalities.
我必须笼统地谈谈。
I can't tell you what we are planning ...
我无法告诉你我们正在计划什么...
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : Garrison helped elevate the Kennedy assassination from a forensic puzzle to was there a grand political motive where the bullets didn't really matter.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：加里森帮助将肯尼迪遇刺案从法医谜题提升为是否存在重大政治动机，而子弹并不真正重要。
Where what really mattered was, who benefited?
真正重要的是，谁受益？
Did Lyndon Johnson benefit?
林登·约翰逊受益了吗？
Was it to keep the Army in Vietnam?
是为了让军队留在越南吗？
Was there a grand social purpose?
有一个宏伟的社会目标吗？
Robert Dallek, Historian : Lyndon Johnson is very concerned about these allegations that are coming out of New Orleans.
历史学家罗伯特·达莱克：林登·约翰逊对来自新奥尔良的这些指控非常担忧。
What bothers him most is the possibility that he is going to be seen as the figure who's behind the conspiracy.
最让他烦恼的是，他有可能被视为阴谋背后的人物。
Lyndon Johnson : Hale tell you that, Hale Boggs, that this fellow District Attorney down there said that this is traced to me or something?
林登·约翰逊：黑尔告诉你，黑尔·博格斯，那位地方检察官说这是追踪到我的还是什么？
Ramsey Clark : I had heard that Garrison was saying that, ah privately around town, that could be traced back -- or that you could be found in it someplace, which I can't believe that he has been saying that.
拉姆齐·克拉克：我听说加里森在城里私下里说过，那可以追溯到——或者说你可以在某个地方找到，我不敢相信他一直这么说。
I think that what he is working on must be the associations that Oswald had in the three or fourth months when he was down there in '62, '63.
我认为他正在研究的一定是奥斯瓦尔德在62年、63年在那里的三、四个月里所产生的联想。
I doubt, I think it would just be incredible if he had anything that went beyond that.
我怀疑，我认为如果他有任何超越这一点的东西，那将是令人难以置信的。
Either that or this guy Garrison is just completely off his rocker.
加里森要么是那个人，要么就是这个人，他完全疯了。
Jim Garrison : It might seem to some, it might seem to have a rash or shocking effect because he is the president.
吉姆·加里森：在某些人看来，这可能会产生鲁莽或令人震惊的影响，因为他是总统。
But he's guilty of being an accessory after the fact and I think we should recognize it.
但他在事后作为从犯而感到内疚，我认为我们应该承认这一点。
Norman Mailer, Novelist : The official conspiratorial theory was that Kennedy was killed 'cause he was getting ready to pull out of Vietnam, and that couldn't be.
小说家诺曼·梅勒：官方的阴谋论是肯尼迪被杀是因为他正准备从越南撤军，但这是不可能的。
We had to stay in Vietnam.
我们不得不留在越南。
And like all of those theories it had certain plausibility and a depressing lack of proof.
和所有这些理论一样，它有一定的合理性，但令人沮丧的是缺乏证据。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : Garrison found a witness, a guy called Perry Russo, who he hypnotized, who said that he knew a guy called David Ferrie who had more or less told him he was in a conspiracy with Oswald.
爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦，记者：加里森找到了一名目击者，一个叫佩里·鲁索的人，他对他进行了催眠，他说他认识一个叫大卫·费里的人，这个人或多或少告诉他，他与奥斯瓦尔德有阴谋。
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : He came down, Perry Russo, from Baton Rouge.
休·艾恩斯沃斯（Hugh Aynesworth），记者：他是佩里·鲁索（Perry Russo），来自巴吞鲁日。
The first four days they put him on polygraph three times.
前四天，他们对他进行了三次测谎仪检查。
He failed all of those.
他所有这些都失败了。
So they put him on Sodium Pentothal.
所以他们让他服用喷妥钠。
I have a tape of Dr. Esmond Fatter leading the discussion under Sodium Pentothal.
我有一盘 Esmond Fatter 博士在喷妥钠下主持讨论的录音带。
Dr. Esmond Fatter : Perry, this door is the entrance to a time tunnel.
Esmond Fatter 博士：Perry，这扇门是时光隧道的入口。
You needn't be worried about it because we're all here and we will take good care of you.
你不用担心，因为我们都在这里，我们会照顾好你的。
I'd like for you to open that door and go into the time tunnel and then you'll begin to spin through time.
我希望你打开那扇门，进入时间隧道，然后你就会开始穿越时间。
And you'll feel that spinning.
你会感觉到旋转。
And you'll spin and spin and spin and the time tunnel will throw you out: September 1963.
你会旋转、旋转、旋转，然后时光隧道就会把你扔出去：1963 年 9 月。
And the people that you may meet and contact and be with is Dave Ferrie, Leon Oswald, Clay Bertrand.
您可能会遇到、接触和相处的人是戴夫·费里 (Dave Ferrie)、莱昂·奥斯瓦尔德 (Leon Oswald)、克莱·伯特兰 (Clay Bertrand)。
And now you go ahead and re-live all of the experiences in relationship to these people in September of 1963.
现在你继续回顾 1963 年 9 月与这些人的所有经历。
And where are you now?
你现在在哪里？
Dr. Fatter : And I wonder what his roommate's name is?
Fatter博士：我想知道他的室友叫什么名字？
Dr. Fatter : Leon.
法特博士：莱昂。
Does Leon have a last name?
莱昂有姓氏吗？
Dr. Fatter : Describe him for me.
Fatter 博士：给我描述一下他。
Take a good look at him and start from the top of his head and describe him.
仔细观察他，从他的头顶开始描述他。
Perry Russo : He is dirty.
佩里·罗素：他很脏。
He's got brown hair.
他有一头棕色的头发。
He's got a beard on, and old dirty clothes.
他留着胡子，穿着又旧又脏的衣服。
Dr. Fatter : And who else is in the apartment there?
Fatter博士：那公寓里还有谁？
You and who else?
你和还有谁？
Perry Russo : Dave's just talking.
佩里·罗素：戴夫只是说说而已。
He said it was so easy to do it.
他说这很容易做到。
He said, if we did it, he said you needed three people, at three different locations, in a crossfire.
他说，如果我们这样做，他说你需要三个人，在三个不同的地点，在交火中。
And I heard that 10 times before.
我以前听过这句话 10 次。
And then you have to get out and you have to make sure you get out in the confusion and be able to leave.
然后你必须出去，你必须确保你能在混乱中出去并能够离开。
And the easiest way to get out is to fly.
而最简单的逃离方法就是乘坐飞机。
And he said he could fly.
他还说他会飞。
Either you fly to Cuba or you fly to Mexico and on to Brazil.
您要么飞往古巴，要么飞往墨西哥，然后再飞往巴西。
Dr. Fatter : You can let yourself, and you will be amazed at how acute your memory will become in the next few weeks.
Fatter博士：你可以放手去做，你会惊奇地发现你的记忆力在接下来的几周内会变得多么敏锐。
Things will seem to pop into your mind and it'll be only the truth as you saw it.
事情似乎会突然出现在你的脑海中，而这只是你所看到的事实。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : Perry Russo also connected David Ferrie to a guy called Clay Bertrand who was gay.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：佩里·拉索还将大卫·费里与一个名叫克莱·伯特兰的同性恋者联系起来。
So now he looked for a guy with the first name Clay who was gay.
所以现在他正在寻找一个名叫克莱的同性恋者。
Garrison wound up accusing and then indicting the well-known citizen of New Orleans, Clay Shaw.
加里森最终指控并起诉了著名的新奥尔良公民克莱·肖。
David Shoemacher : Garrison's investigation has seemed to concentrate on homosexuals.
大卫·舒马赫：加里森的调查似乎集中在同性恋者身上。
That of course is an old police trick, and homosexuals have been a particular target of Garrison's over the years.
这当然是警方的老伎俩，多年来同性恋者一直是加里森的特别目标。
Even members of his staff have been privately critical of the emphasis on men whose deviation makes them vulnerable.
就连他的工作人员也私下批评过对那些因偏差而变得脆弱的男性的重视。
And there's been criticism within the staff too of the decision to use drugs and hypnosis in interrogations and the introduction of a dope addict as a witness.
工作人员内部也对在审讯中使用毒品和催眠以及引入吸毒成瘾者作为证人的决定提出了批评。
Garrison is unperturbed, however, he points out that normal men don't plot to kill the president of the United States.
然而，加里森却泰然自若，他指出，普通人不会密谋刺杀美国总统。
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : Under Louisiana law, to charge Clay Shaw with any complicity in the assassination there had to be some kind of overt act.
休·艾恩斯沃斯，记者：根据路易斯安那州法律，要指控克莱·肖参与暗杀行动，必须有某种公开的行为。
So, in other words there had be a plot session where Shaw had to go to Dallas or the Dallas people had to come.
所以，换句话说，有一个情节，肖必须去达拉斯，或者达拉斯人必须来。
They had to meet.
他们必须见面。
They had to know each other.
他们必须互相认识。
And so he had this code.
所以他有了这个代码。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : And bear with me, it is very complicated.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：请耐心听我说，这非常复杂。
And I'll tell you from the beginning that it is a simple hocus pocus act.
我从一开始就告诉你，这只是一个简单的骗局行为。
But what Garrison did was take two five-digit numbers that was common to both Shaw and Oswald's address books.
但加里森所做的是采用了肖和奥斯瓦尔德地址簿中常见的两个五位数号码。
Transposing all the digits by choosing the nearest digit, then the farthest, then the nearest digit, Garrison managed to deduce the number 16901.The next step was to subtract the arbitrary number 1300.
加里森通过选择最近的数字、然后是最远的数字、然后是最近的数字来交换所有数字，成功推导出数字 16901。下一步是减去任意数字 1300。
He got 15601.
他得到了15601。
Finally, through some form of hocus-pocus Garrison converted the prefix PO to WH and presto!
最后，加里森通过某种形式的诡计将前缀 PO 转换为 WH，然后就变了！
He came up with Jack Ruby's number, his unlisted telephone number.
他找到了杰克·鲁比的号码，他未公开的电话号码。
And to make it even more ludicrous, by using a different method of code breaking, if we can call this nonsense code breaking, he came up with a link between Oswald, Clay Shaw, Jack Ruby and the local CIA agent.
更可笑的是，通过使用不同的密码破解方法，如果我们可以称之为无意义的密码破解，他想出了奥斯瓦尔德、克莱·肖、杰克·鲁比和当地中央情报局特工之间的联系。
Mark Lane, Attorney : I mean, any number can be transposed to any other number if you do enough different things to it, and it would have been easier to just look it up in the phone book actually.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：我的意思是，如果你对它做了足够多不同的事情，任何号码都可以转换为任何其他号码，而且实际上在电话簿中查找它会更容易。
So why would you go through all the code?
那么为什么要检查所有代码呢？
But as he explained it, and he explained it to one of the Senators from Louisiana and he persuaded this guy.
但当他向路易斯安那州的一位参议员解释时，他说服了这个人。
This guy then went on one of the network shows and tried to explain it and it was so pathetic because it was really I think nothing to it, but he had persuaded this Senator.
然后这个人上了一个网络节目并试图解释它，这太可悲了，因为我真的认为没什么，但他说服了这位参议员。
Senator Russell Long : So, if you take the P and the O and you use a telephone dial.
参议员拉塞尔·朗：所以，如果您使用 P 和 O，并且使用电话拨号。
P gives you seven and O gives you six and you add seven and six together and you get 13.
P 给你 7，O 给你 6，你将 7 和 6 加在一起，得到 13。
Then you take the 19106.
然后你就拿19106。
The ABCDE basis so you put A falls, comes ahead of E.
ABCDE 基础，所以你把 A 放在后面，放在 E 前面。
And then you reconstruct the numbers and then you subtract 1300, which you got from the PO, and that gives you Ruby's unlisted telephone number.
然后你重建这些数字，然后减去从采购订单中获得的 1300，这就是 Ruby 未列出的电话号码。
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : Garrison was idolized by people all over the world.
休·艾恩斯沃斯（Hugh Aynesworth），记者：加里森受到全世界人民的崇拜。
They thought he had done what nobody else could do.
他们认为他做了别人做不到的事情。
He had the guts to charge somebody, solve this crime.
他有胆量起诉某人，破案。
Clay Shaw : I think that Garrison feels that frightening aphorism, which seems to be so much that by which people govern themselves these days, that the end justifies the means.
克莱·肖：我认为加里森感受到了这句令人恐惧的格言，这似乎是当今人们用来管理自己的格言，目的证明手段是正确的。
Dan Rather, Reporter : When Garrison began his investigation, CBS News set about to do our own independent investigation on a size and scale that was unprecedented for the network.
记者丹·拉瑟：当加里森开始调查时，哥伦比亚广播公司新闻开始进行我们自己的独立调查，其规模和规模对于网络来说是前所未有的。
Dan Rather, Reporter : Taking his rifle with him, Oswald went between the stacks of book cartons to the opposite corner of the sixth floor ...
记者丹·拉瑟：奥斯瓦尔德带着步枪，从成堆的书箱中间走到六楼的对面角落……
Dan Rather, Reporter : We certainly had the motivation to come to a different conclusion than the Warren Commission did.
丹·拉瑟（记者）：我们当然有动机得出与沃伦委员会不同的结论。
Because if the Warren Commission has reached the wrong conclusion it would be the biggest story you could conceive of breaking.
因为如果沃伦委员会得出了错误的结论，这将是你能想到的最大的新闻报道。
Mike Wallace : You say that that Lee Harvey Oswald did not kill President Kennedy.
迈克·华莱士：你说李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德没有杀死肯尼迪总统。
Who then did kill him?
那么到底是谁杀了他呢？
Jim Garrison : Well first of all, if I knew the names of the individuals behind the grassy knoll, where we know they were, I certainly would not tell you and couldn't here.
吉姆·加里森：首先，如果我知道草丘后面那些人的名字，我们知道他们在哪里，我当然不会告诉你，也不能在这里告诉你。
There is no question about the fact they were there and there's no question about the motive.
毫无疑问他们在那里的事实和动机也毫无疑问。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : The whole thing became a huge media event.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：整件事变成了一场巨大的媒体事件。
But by this time, Garrison had come up with a even grander conspiracy and that was that anyone that criticized his investigation or found it to be fraudulent was a part of an American government plot to discredit him.
但此时，加里森想出了一个更大的阴谋，那就是任何批评他的调查或认为其调查具有欺诈性的人都是美国政府抹黑他的阴谋的一部分。
He basically elevated the idea of conspiracy not only to the case he was investigating, but to the treatment of it by the press.
他基本上不仅将阴谋的概念提升到了他正在调查的案件上，而且还提升到了媒体对此案的处理上。
Jim Garrison : Some of the most powerful news agencies we have in our country have worked hard to convince you that everything is all right ...
吉姆·加里森：我们国家一些最强大的新闻机构一直在努力让你相信一切都好......
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : I think that Garrison had lost touch with reality.
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：我认为加里森已经脱离了现实。
Jim Garrison: Their game is to fool you.
吉姆·加里森：他们的游戏就是愚弄你。
These people want the investigation stopped.
这些人希望停止调查。
They don't want a trial at all.
他们根本不想接受审判。
Please believe me.
请相信我。
Mark Lane, Attorney : I wasn't surprised when there was an acquittal.
马克·莱恩（Mark Lane）律师：当无罪释放时，我并不感到惊讶。
Garrison then wanted to start indicting various people for perjury.
加里森随后想开始起诉各种作伪证的人。
He was full of spirit and fighting and everybody else was demoralized and I expected that was going to be the result.
他充满斗志，斗志昂扬，而其他人都士气低落，我预料到这会是结果。
Clay Shaw's entourage : Step aside, please!
克莱·肖的随从：请靠边站！
Josiah Thompson, Investigator : I think the Garrison investigation was a disaster for research in the Kennedy assassination.
乔赛亚·汤普森（Josiah Thompson），调查员：我认为加里森调查对于肯尼迪遇刺事件的研究来说是一场灾难。
So I turned away from it at that point.
所以我当时就放弃了它。
And I turned away largely because I thought that Garrison had spoiled the whole thing.
我转身走开主要是因为我认为加里森破坏了整件事。
Walter Cronkite : Good evening.
沃尔特·克朗凯特：晚上好。
Dr. Martin Luther King, the apostle of non-violence in the Civil Rights Movement, has been shot to death in Memphis, Tennessee.
民权运动非暴力倡导者马丁·路德·金博士在田纳西州孟菲斯被枪杀。
Police have issued an all-points-bulletin for a well-dressed young white man seen running from the scene.
警方已对一名衣着考究的年轻白人男子发出全面警告，该男子从现场逃跑。
Officers also reportedly chased and fired on a radio-equipped car containing two white men.
据报道，警察还追赶一辆载有两名白人的装有无线电的汽车并向其开枪。
Tom Hayden : The impression is that we're facing power structures or conspiratorial cliques that apparently will stop at nothing.
汤姆·海登：给人的印象是，我们面临着显然会不择手段的权力结构或阴谋集团。
This became incorporated into a new understanding about how power works in America.
这被纳入对美国权力运作方式的新理解中。
We're not as democratic as we were taught.
我们并不像我们被教导的那样民主。
The model we're operating on needs to incorporate random events, assassinations, stolen elections.
我们正在运行的模型需要纳入随机事件、暗杀、选举被盗等内容。
We are not different from other countries.
我们与其他国家没有什么不同。
Robert Dallek, Historian : Robert Kennedy becomes the embodiment of the hopes which still attach to JFK.
罗伯特·达莱克（Robert Dallek），历史学家：罗伯特·肯尼迪成为了人们对肯尼迪的希望的化身。
He's the great hope to end the Vietnam War in '68, to put across yet further advances for Civil Rights and for progressive legislation.
他寄希望于在 68 年结束越南战争，为民权和进步立法带来进一步的进步。
So, in a sense Bobby Kennedy becomes emblematic of Camelot, of the hopes that are dashed by JFK's killing.
因此，从某种意义上说，鲍比·肯尼迪成为卡米洛特的象征，象征着因肯尼迪遇害而破灭的希望。
Crowd : Oh my God.
众人：天哪。
Why?
为什么？
God, no!
天啊，不！
No!
不！
Get a doctor!
找医生！
Get a doctor!
找医生！
God, no!
天啊，不！
Get a doctor!
找医生！
Oh, no no no!
哦，不不不！
Senator Hart : After the second Kennedy assassination I probably just kind of gave up on government and politics.
哈特参议员：在第二次肯尼迪遇刺之后，我可能就放弃了政府和政治。
All of the hope of that period of '60 to '63 and then briefly for a few months or a few weeks in '68 resurrected were crushed.
60 至 63 年期间的所有希望以及 68 年短暂的几个月或几周的复活都破灭了。
Todd Gitlin, Student Activist : The assassination was truly devastating.
托德·吉特林，学生活动家：这次暗杀确实是毁灭性的。
unknown : If there's a doctor in the house I want to see him right here.
未知：如果家里有医生，我想在这里见他。
Todd Gitlin, Student Activist : Bobby Kennedy, to me, I suppose, represented you know the possibility of a certain redemption.
托德·吉特林（Todd Gitlin），学生活动家：鲍比·肯尼迪（Bobby Kennedy），对我来说，我想，代表着你知道某种救赎的可能性。
And then, you know, suddenly when he was gone, that's when, you know, some other people I knew became assassination buffs.
然后，你知道，当他突然离开时，我认识的其他一些人就变成了暗杀爱好者。
You know, believing that well there was a method to the madness and it was decipherable if you simply did enough research and viewed the Zapruder film enough times.
你知道，相信有一种方法可以解决这种疯狂，如果你做了足够的研究并观看了扎普鲁德的电影足够多的时间，它是可以解读的。
Tom Hayden : These assassinations have always been underestimated in their effects on the movement and effects on individuals like ourselves.
汤姆·海登：这些暗杀事件对运动的影响以及对像我们这样的个人的影响一直被低估。
I think that the '60s has a logical narrative towards a progressive majority coming to power by 1968 ...
我认为 60 年代有一个逻辑叙述，即进步多数派将在 1968 年上台......
Martin Luther King : ...
马丁·路德·金：...
of the coming of the lord.
主的来临。
Bobby Kennedy : And now it's on to Chicago and let's win there.
鲍比·肯尼迪：现在我们要去芝加哥了，让我们在那里获胜吧。
Tom Hayden : ...
汤姆·海登：...
interrupted three times by killings by unknown forces.
因不明势力的杀戮而中断了三度。
The Chicago demonstrations at the 1968 Democratic Convention have to be placed in that context.
1968 年民主党大会上的芝加哥示威活动必须放在这样的背景下进行。
Todd Gitlin, Student Activist : The assassinations, the whole wave, the whole arc of assassinations, had tipped us into the collision.
托德·吉特林，学生活动家：暗杀，整个浪潮，整个暗杀弧线，让我们陷入了冲突。
You know, this is the last stand.
你知道，这是最后的坚持。
This is the moment of truth.
这是关键时刻。
This is the colossal confrontation between the forces of light and the forces of darkness.
这是光明势力与黑暗势力之间的巨大对抗。
Demonstrators : The whole world is watching!
示威者：全世界都在看！
The whole world is watching!
全世界都在关注！
The whole world is watching!
全世界都在关注！
Todd Gitlin, Student Activist : The fact that Richard Nixon was going to inherit the wind just simply didn't feature in our, in our calculations.
托德·吉特林，学生活动家：理查德·尼克松将继承风的事实根本没有出现在我们的计算中。
Dan Rather, Reporter : When times are really difficult, when complexity increases, I think it is very natural that people go to conspiracy theories.
记者丹·拉瑟：当时代真的很困难、当复杂性增加时，我认为人们转向阴谋论是很自然的。
And sometimes conspiracy theories turn out to be true.
有时阴谋论会被证明是正确的。
Sometimes they can be proven.
有时它们可以被证明。
Senator Gary Hart, U.S. Senator : During the Nixon years, in response largely to Vietnam and social unrest, conservatives in the Nixon administration had begun to subvert the political process -- ironically enough wiretapping, mail-opening, surveillance both of Civil Rights activists and anti-war activists.
美国参议员加里·哈特参议员：在尼克松执政期间，主要是为了应对越南战争和社会动荡，尼克松政府中的保守派开始颠覆政治进程——讽刺的是，对民权活动人士和反战活动人士进行窃听、拆封、监视。
Richard Nixon resigned in August of '74 and I was elected in November of '74.
理查德·尼克松于 74 年 8 月辞职，我于 74 年 11 月当选。
A Select Committee of the Senate was given a broad mandate to find out what abuses had occurred in the intelligence community during the '60s and early '70s.
参议院的一个特别委员会被赋予了广泛的授权，以查明情报界在 60 年代和 70 年代初发生了哪些滥用职权的情况。
We discovered U.S. efforts to assassinate at least six foreign leaders, overthrow of certain governments, de-stabilization of other governments.
我们发现美国暗杀至少六名外国领导人、推翻某些政府、破坏其他政府的稳定。
And finally we got to Castro.
最后我们到达了卡斯特罗。
It turned out that the CIA was using at least three major Mafia figures to assassinate Castro and there were at least half-a-dozen attempts if not more.
事实证明，中央情报局至少利用了三名黑手党主要人物来刺杀卡斯特罗，而且至少有六次尝试。
The intensive period was '60, '61 and end of '62.
密集期是60年、61年和62年末。
Given the timing of this with the Kennedy assassination, you had to almost start over again and begin to examine motives.
考虑到肯尼迪遇刺事件发生的时间，你几乎必须重新开始并开始检查动机。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : The Church Committee showed that if the CIA was involved in an assassination in the Congo or an assassination in Cuba and that the Mafia had been connected into assassinations plots with the CIA, who's to say that these sort of techniques were out of the question in Dallas?
记者爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦：教会委员会表明，如果中央情报局参与了刚果的暗杀或古巴的暗杀，并且黑手党与中央情报局的暗杀阴谋有联系，那么谁能说这些技术在达拉斯是不可能的呢？
Norman Mailer, Novelist : At the time I was very paranoid about the CIA, and not in a sense that the CIA is evil from top to bottom.
小说家诺曼·梅勒：当时我对中央情报局非常偏执，并不是说中央情报局从上到下都是邪恶的。
But I knew enough about the CIA to know that there all sorts of wings and enclaves and cells in the CIA, as well as the bureaucratic overlay.
但我对中央情报局有足够的了解，知道中央情报局有各种各样的分支、飞地和小组，以及官僚机构。
And so I saw it as perfectly possible that people in the CIA had pulled it off.
所以我认为中央情报局的人完全有可能成功了。
Senator Gary Hart, U.S. Senator : We sent a researcher up to the Kennedy Library to try to figure out who John Kennedy was talking to during this period when these plots were being hatched and this researcher came back with 75 phone calls between the White House and a number in Los Angeles.
美国参议员加里·哈特参议员：我们派了一名研究人员到肯尼迪图书馆，试图找出在这些阴谋策划期间约翰·肯尼迪正在与谁交谈，这位研究人员带回了白宫与洛杉矶的一个电话号码之间的 75 个电话。
And it turned out to be a young woman at the time, Judith Campbell, who was an aspiring starlet but had been introduced to John Kennedy by Frank Sinatra.
事实证明，当时是一位年轻女子朱迪思·坎贝尔，她是一位有抱负的明星，但被弗兰克·西纳特拉介绍给约翰·肯尼迪。
And apparently, President Kennedy and Miss Campbell had developed a friendship to say the least.
显然，肯尼迪总统和坎贝尔小姐至少可以说已经建立了友谊。
And the problem with that was that she also had developed a friendship with Sam Giancana who was one of the leading, if not the most important Mafia figure in America.
问题是她还与萨姆·吉安卡纳建立了友谊，萨姆·吉安卡纳即使不是美国最重要的黑手党人物，也是主要人物之一。
Now the plot was terribly, terribly thick.
现在的情节非常非常厚重。
Lee Harvey Oswald : No. They're taking me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union.
李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德：不。他们收留我是因为我住在苏联。
I'm just a patsy!
我只是个小偷而已！
Norman Mailer, Novelist : When the Kennedy assassination took place, the CIA was in a state, and so was the Mafia 'cause how much was this guy Oswald with us?
诺曼·梅勒，小说家：当肯尼迪遇刺事件发生时，中央情报局处于一种状态，黑手党也是如此，因为奥斯瓦尔德这个家伙和我们有多少关系？
For 48 hours, 72 hours nobody knew.
48小时、72小时没人知道。
God knows what he would say at a public trial.
天知道他在公开审判时会说什么。
So people began to ask had the Mafia ordered Ruby to kill Oswald?
于是人们开始问，黑手党是否命令鲁比杀死奥斯瓦尔德？
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : I knew Jack Ruby very well and people that say, 'well, Ruby was part of a conspiracy,' remember that the word was that they were going move Oswald at about 10 o'clock, no earlier than that.
休·艾恩斯沃斯，记者：我非常了解杰克·鲁比，那些说“好吧，鲁比是阴谋的一部分”的人记得，他们要在 10 点左右转移奥斯瓦尔德，不能早于那个时间。
Reporter : Tomorrow at 10 o'clock in the morning, he's scheduled to be moved from here to the County Courthouse.
记者：明天上午10点，他将被从这里转移到县法院。
Hugh Aynesworth, Reporter : Ruby slept 'til probably 9:30 or 9:20 something of that sort, and then he drives with his dog down to the Western Union and sent a telegram at 11:17 that morning.
Hugh Aynesworth，记者：Ruby 大概睡到了 9:30 或 9:20 之类的，然后他带着他的狗开车去西联汇款，并在那天早上 11:17 发了一封电报。
Came out and he looked one block up and he saw the crowd there at the police department.
出来后，他朝前一个街区望去，看到了警察局里的人群。
Jack Ruby was always on the scene of action, whether it be a fire, whether it be a raid, whether it be a parade, whatever.
杰克·鲁比总是出现在行动现场，无论是火灾、突袭、游行还是其他什么。
He had to be there.
他必须在那里。
And he knew some of those cops.
他认识其中一些警察。
The fact that he left the dog in the car indicates to me that he thought he was going down to send a telegram and go back home.
他把狗留在车里这一事实向我表明，他以为他是要去发电报然后回家。
He took that little dog everywhere with him.
他到处都带着那只小狗。
Jack Ruby : The curiosity had aroused me because of the flash in my mind, seeing the people there before I went to the Western Union, as I drove by on Main Street.
杰克·鲁比：好奇心引起了我的好奇心，因为在我去西联汇款之前，当我开车经过大街时，我脑海中闪现出那里的人们。
The ironic part of this is, had I made an illegal turn behind the bus to the parking lot, had I gone the way I was suppose to go, straight down Main Street, I would have never -- I would never have met this fate.
具有讽刺意味的是，如果我在公共汽车后面非法转弯到停车场，如果我按照我应该走的路，径直沿着主街走，我永远不会——我永远不会遇到这样的命运。
Tour guide : If you look at the picture real close there's not anybody but one officer that has even tuned his eyes in that direction yet, you know getting ready for what was going to happen so fast.
导游：如果你仔细观察这张照片，除了一名警官之外，没有任何人将目光转向那个方向，你就会知道，你正在为即将发生的事情做好准备。
Robert Groden : Down here, the president's car and up here the smoke from the fatal shot drifting out from behind the corner of the stockade fence on the grassy knoll.
罗伯特·格罗登：下面是总统的汽车，上面是致命枪击产生的烟雾，从草丘上的栅栏角落后面飘出来。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : There's of course the theory that the Mafia did it, the theory that the CIA did it, the theory that the anti-Castro Cubans did it.
爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦，记者：当然有黑手党干的理论、中央情报局干的理论、反卡斯特罗的古巴人干的理论。
I think Oliver Stone does the best job if you want to see how many theories can be unified.
如果你想看看有多少理论可以统一，我认为奥利弗·斯通做得最好。
Take a look at his movie.
看看他的电影。
Oliver Stone : Take one.
奥利弗·斯通：拿一个。
A-mark.
A 标记。
T-mark.
T 形标记。
Action!
行动！
Go to the Cubans.
去古巴人那里吧。
Cubans!
古巴人！
Oliver Stone : What we are trying to do is take all of these facts that we now know and put them into one framework so that the audience can really for the first time, begin to get everything at one time as opposed to hearing a little bit here and a little bit there.
奥利弗·斯通：我们正在尝试做的就是将我们现在所知道的所有这些事实放入一个框架中，以便观众能够真正第一次开始同时了解所有内容，而不是这里听一点，那里听一点。
And then all of the deniability sets in and, you know, it's hard to believe one thing here and one thing there.
然后所有的否认都开始出现，你知道，很难相信这里一件事和那里一件事。
And we are trying to show a whole mosaic, all of the layers of things that happened.
我们正试图展示一个完整的马赛克，所有发生的事情的层次。
I'm not a documentarian.
我不是纪录片导演。
As a dramatist I am shaping four story ends.
作为一名剧作家，我正在塑造四个故事结局。
But in its essence I think that the story is true.
但从本质上讲，我认为这个故事是真实的。
It its essence, in its spirit.
它的本质，在于它的精神。
Kennedy was killed under highly suspicious circumstances that were never investigated at the time.
肯尼迪是在高度可疑的情况下被杀的，当时从未对此进行过调查。
Oliver Stone : Plus the fact that they say that it exited here and hit Connally --
奥利弗·斯通：加上他们说它从这里出去并击中了康纳利——
Robert Groden : -- Who was directly in front over here --
罗伯特·格罗登：--谁就在前面--
Oliver Stone : -- and had six more wounds and the bullet itself did not change impression --
奥利弗·斯通：——还有六处伤口，子弹本身并没有改变印象——
Oliver Stone : -- a pristine bullet.
奥利弗·斯通：——一颗原始的子弹。
It is an amazing story.
这是一个奇妙的故事。
Robert Groden : The only problem is that no one believes it anymore.
罗伯特·格罗登：唯一的问题是没有人相信它了。
Thanks to you.
谢谢你。
Oliver Stone : That's not true.
奥利弗·斯通：那不是真的。
A lot of people still believe it.
很多人至今仍相信。
Robert Groden : Well, they won't after this.
罗伯特·格罗登：嗯，他们不会在这之后。
Mark Lane, Attorney : I never thought that I would be here and be able to say the overwhelming majority of the American people have concluded that I have been right all along, and that the Warren Commission and all of the members of the Senate and the House who served on the Warren Commission and the Chief Justice and Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather, Reporter, all of those people, all of them, New York Times editorial writers, The Washington Post editorial writers, all of them are wrong.
马克·莱恩律师：我从来没有想过我会在这里并能够说绝大多数美国人民的结论是我一直都是对的，沃伦委员会以及所有在沃伦委员会任职的参议院和众议院成员以及首席大法官以及沃尔特·克朗凯特和丹·拉瑟，记者，所有这些人，所有这些人，所有纽约时报社论作家，华盛顿邮报社论作家，所有这些人都是错的。
Norman Mailer, Novelist : Like most conspiratorialists, I wanted it to be a conspiracy.
小说家诺曼·梅勒：像大多数阴谋论者一样，我希望这是一个阴谋。
But I kept trying to think of how a conspiracy could have put the thing together and I must say I failed notably.
但我一直试图思考阴谋是如何将这一切整合在一起的，我必须说我失败了。
I couldn't figure it out.
我想不通。
The internal evidence just wasn't there.
内部证据根本不存在。
There were too many odd moments that just didn't add up.
有太多奇怪的时刻，只是没有加起来。
Oswald is always seen as this illiterate who was sort of stupid and didn't have too much on the ball.
奥斯瓦尔德总是被认为是一个文盲，有点愚蠢，而且没有太多的头脑。
And that was not Oswald's view of himself.
这并不是奥斯瓦尔德对自己的看法。
His intelligence was there.
他的聪明才智摆在那里。
He wasn't such a great intellectual but he was a fairly good one and for an uneducated intellectual he was damn bright.
他不是一位多么伟大的知识分子，但他是一位相当不错的知识分子，对于一个没有受过教育的知识分子来说，他真是太聪明了。
I've heard him on radio shows and there he handled himself very well.
我在广播节目中听过他的讲话，他表现得很好。
Lee Harvey Oswald : Several American parties and several countries are based on Marxism, such as Guyana, Ghana, certain countries have characteristics of socialist systems such as Great Britain with its socialized medicine.
李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔德：美国的一些政党和一些国家都是以马克思主义为基础的，比如圭亚那、加纳，有些国家有社会主义制度的特点，比如英国的社会化医疗。
These then are the differences between an outright Communist country and countries which adhere to leftist or Marxist principals.
这就是彻底的共产主义国家和坚持左派或马克思主义原则的国家之间的区别。
Normal Mailer, Novelist : He was fascinated with Adolph Hitler.
普通梅勒，小说家：他对阿道夫·希特勒很着迷。
Not because he believed in any of Hitler's ideas, but Hitler showed him, in his mind, that you can start way at the bottom of society, unemployed, virtually helpless, in no place at all, and you can rise to be a very, very powerful man.
不是因为他相信希特勒的任何想法，而是希特勒在他的脑海中向他表明，你可以从社会底层开始，失业，几乎无助，根本没有任何地方，你可以成为一个非常非常有权势的人。
Priscilla Johnson McMillan, Historian : Oswald had already done some difficult things.
普里西拉·约翰逊·麦克米伦，历史学家：奥斯瓦尔德已经做了一些困难的事情。
He had gotten into the Marine Corps and gotten out of the Marine Corps falsely on a hardship discharge.
他曾加入海军陆战队，又因困难退伍而假装退出海军陆战队。
He'd gone by himself to the Soviet Union.
他独自去了苏联。
He had gotten the Russians to accept him as a defector.
他让俄罗斯人接受他作为叛逃者。
And then when he decided that he wanted to go back to the United States he managed to take a wife with him.
然后，当他决定要返回美国时，他设法带着妻子一起返回美国。
He'd done very difficult things in his life and he'd done them alone.
他一生中完成了非常困难的事情，而且都是他独自完成的。
Anybody who thinks that he wasn't capable of planning something and carrying it off alone is wrong.
任何认为他没有能力计划某件事并独自完成它的人都是错误的。
Even wronger would be to think that somebody else could get him to do anything they wanted him to do.
更错误的是认为其他人可以让他做他们想让他做的任何事情。
He didn't do anything with anybody.
他没有对任何人做任何事。
Edward Jay Epstein, Journalist : What diminishes the idea of a conspiracy, in my mind, is not that one can't think of a good reason why one couldn't put a conspiracy together.
爱德华·杰伊·爱泼斯坦，记者：在我看来，减少阴谋这一想法的并不是人们无法想出一个不能将阴谋放在一起的充分理由。
But it's the passage of time.
但这是时间的流逝。
One has to take that into their reckoning.
人们必须将这一点纳入考虑之中。
As we covered, you know, decade after decade, not a shred has come out that would indicate what this conspiracy was.
正如我们所报道的，你知道，十年又十年，没有任何迹象表明这个阴谋是什么。
After 40 years none of the theories pan out.
40 年后，所有理论都没有成立。
Todd Gitlin, Student Activist : You know, Americans are prone to paranoid thinking.
托德·吉特林，学生活动家：你知道，美国人很容易产生偏执思维。
The belief that there must be a story that can be told that explains how awful things happen is a, you know, is a potent one.
你知道，相信一定有一个故事可以讲述，来解释发生的事情有多么可怕，这是一种强有力的信念。
The belief that tiny cabals of people are actually pulling the strings runs back into the Book of Revelations.
认为一小群人实际上在幕后操纵的信念可以追溯到《启示录》。
So the sign of 666, the Beast is the CIA, is you know, whoever, choose one or choose several and kaleidoscopically maneuver the actors to make it all seem to make sense.
所以666的标志，野兽就是中央情报局，你知道，无论是谁，选择一个或几个，并千变万化地操纵演员，让这一切看起来都有意义。
These superstitions imply that what most people do and think is irrelevant, that somewhere there is a bunch of people in a room somewhere who will actually make things happen.
这些迷信意味着大多数人所做的和所想的都是无关紧要的，在某个地方的某个房间里有一群人实际上会让事情发生。
Norman Mailer, Novelist : The more I studied him, the more I came to know him, Oswald's character became more and more defined for me.
小说家诺曼·梅勒：我对他研究得越多，对他的了解就越多，奥斯瓦尔德的性格对我来说变得越来越明确。
He had a great many political ideas and he wrote long passages about the ways in which society should be designed.
他有很多政治思想，并写了很多关于社会设计方式的文章。
He was a futurist and a utopian to a degree.
在某种程度上，他是一位未来主义者和乌托邦主义者。
I think what he believed was that the route to power was not closed as far as he was concerned.
我认为他相信的是，就他而言，通往权力的道路并没有关闭。
So that by himself, whether he was talking to conspirators or not, Oswald came to the conclusion that he could bring this off.
因此，无论奥斯瓦尔德是否与阴谋者交谈，他自己都得出结论，他可以实现这一目标。
That he could commit this crime.
他可以犯下这种罪行。
That he could yet be a very, very powerful man.
他仍然可以成为一个非常非常强大的人。
And that was worth it 'cause he was leading a miserable life.
这是值得的，因为他过着悲惨的生活。
Priscilla Johnson McMillan, Historian : As Marina explained when I was interviewing her for the book, several months before the assassination, Lee came in sort of a wild-eyed and sweaty and he said, "I shot Walker!" Edwin A.
普里西拉·约翰逊·麦克米伦，历史学家：正如玛丽娜在刺杀事件发生前几个月采访她时所解释的那样，李的眼神有点狂野，满头大汗，他说：“我射杀了沃克！”埃德温·A.
Walker was a well-known right-winger and he lived in Dallas.
沃克是一位著名的右翼分子，他住在达拉斯。
General Edwin Walker : Well, the police from the city came in to investigate a rifle shot that was fired into the house, fired through the West window.
埃德温·沃克将军：嗯，市里的警察进来调查了从西窗射入房屋的步枪枪击事件。
Priscilla Johnson McMillan, Historian : The failure to hit Walker, very close failure though it was, is the Rosetta Stone of the Kennedy assassination.
普里西拉·约翰逊·麦克米伦，历史学家：击中沃克的失败，尽管是非常接近的失败，是肯尼迪遇刺事件的罗塞塔石碑。
It showed that Lee really wanted to kill someone.
这说明李是真的想杀人。
Oswald found out on Tuesday, when I believe there was a big story in the Dallas morning newspapers, that Kennedy's route would go past the building in which he worked.
奥斯瓦尔德周二发现，当时达拉斯早报上有一篇大报道，肯尼迪的路线将经过他工作的大楼。
And in the morning he woke her up, kissed her, and said he was leaving money for her on the bureau and then he went off with something in a bundle.
早上，他叫醒了她，吻了她，并说他要把钱放在柜子里给她，然后他就带着一捆东西走了。
Late in the afternoon of the 22nd she looked at the bureau where Lee had left her his money, which was $70, but she looked inside of an old cup and inside was his wedding ring.
22 日下午晚些时候，她查看了李留给她的 70 美元钱的柜子，但她看到里面有一个旧杯子，里面是他的结婚戒指。
Norman Mailer, Novelist : Marina for years has been haunted by the fact that was she to some degree responsible.
小说家诺曼·梅勒：多年来，玛丽娜一直被自己在某种程度上负有责任的事实所困扰。
But I think what Oswald saw was that if he committed the crime, if he assassinated Kennedy and he got away with it, then he would have an inner power that no-one could ever come near.
但我认为奥斯瓦尔德看到的是，如果他犯了罪，如果他刺杀了肯尼迪并逃脱了惩罚，那么他将拥有一种无人能及的内在力量。
And, if he was caught, well then he was quite articulate, he would have one of the greatest trials in America's history, if not the greatest and he would explain all of his political ideas.
而且，如果他被抓住，那么他就非常善于表达，他将面临美国历史上最伟大的审判之一，即使不是最伟大的审判，他也会解释他所有的政治观点。
And he would become world famous and might have an immense effect upon history even if he was executed.
即使他被处决，他也会成为世界名人，并可能对历史产生巨大的影响。
So there he was, he knew that he had this opportunity, that Kennedy was going to drive by the Texas Book Depository.
所以他就在那里，他知道他有这个机会，肯尼迪将开车经过德克萨斯州图书存放处。
One can only imagine the terror, and the excitement, and the inspiration, and the woe that sat on him with the knowledge that he could do it, that it was possible to do it.
人们只能想象当他知道自己能做到这一点、有可能做到这一点时，他的恐惧、兴奋、灵感和痛苦。
That there were conspiracies being contemplated, attempted, even attempted on that day, I am perfectly willing to accept.
那天有阴谋正在酝酿，正在尝试，甚至正在尝试，我完全愿意接受。
But the conclusions I came to were for me rational ones, because he had a motive for doing it, because he was capable of doing it, because he wanted to do it.
但我得出的结论对我来说是理性的，因为他有这样做的动机，因为他有能力这样做，因为他想这样做。
When he shot Tippit, I think at that point he knew he was doomed because he could no longer make the great speech.
当他射杀蒂皮特时，我想那时他就知道自己注定要失败，因为他无法再发表精彩的演讲了。
If you shoot a policeman forget it, you're a punk.
如果你射杀了警察，就算了，你就是个小混混。
And so after he was caught he did nothing but protest his innocence and say, "I'm a patsy." Oswald is a ghost who sits upon American life, the ghost that lay over a great many discussions of what are some of real the roots of American history.
因此，在他被捕后，他什么也没做，只是坚称自己是无辜的，并说：“我是个替罪羊。”奥斯瓦尔德是美国生活中的一个幽灵，这个幽灵影响了许多关于美国历史真正根源的讨论。
What's abominable and maddening about ghosts is you never know the answer.
鬼魂的可恶和令人发狂的地方在于你永远不知道答案。
Is it this, or is it that?
是这个，还是那个？
You can't know, 'cause a ghost doesn't tell you.
你无法知道，因为鬼魂不会告诉你。
Professor Barbie Zelizer spoke to American Experience about the media coverage of President Kennedy's assassination.
芭比·泽利泽教授在《美国经验》节目中谈到了媒体对肯尼迪总统遇刺事件的报道。
Key events weaving together the life of Oswald, Kennedy, and the assassination, from 1917 to 1968.
从 1917 年到 1968 年，将奥斯瓦尔德、肯尼迪的一生和暗杀事件交织在一起的关键事件。
Get answers to some of the most frequently asked questions about President John F.
获取有关约翰·肯尼迪总统的一些最常见问题的答案。
Kennedy's assassination on November 22, 1963.
1963 年 11 月 22 日肯尼迪遇刺身亡。
A look at Kennedy's assassination, the public's reaction to the tragedy, and the government investigations that instead of calming fears, led to a widespread loss of trust in the institutions that govern our society.
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