My Lai
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: It was the summer of 1969.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:那是 1969 年夏天。
I was an Army prosecutor at Fort Benning, Georgia.
我是佐治亚州本宁堡的一名陆军检察官。
I was sitting in my office, and my supervisor walked in, closed the door, looked at me and said, "Have you ever heard of Pinkville?" And I said, "No, I haven't." And he briefly described what Pinkville was.
我坐在办公室里,我的主管走进来,关上门,看着我说:“你听说过平克维尔吗?”我说:“不,我没有。”他简要描述了平克维尔是什么。
It was a place on a map of Vietnam, and there had been an operation there.
那是越南地图上的一个地方,那里曾经有过一次行动。
NBC News Anchor (Archival): Charges have been made that troops killed as many as 567 South Vietnamese civilians during a sweep in March 1968.
NBC 新闻主播(档案):有人指控军队在 1968 年 3 月的一次扫荡中杀害了多达 567 名南越平民。
A lieutenant has been charged with murder and a staff sergeant with assault with intent to murder...
一名中尉被指控犯有谋杀罪,一名上士被指控犯有袭击意图谋杀罪......
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: By that point the Army had conducted an investigation.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:那时陆军已经进行了调查。
Quite a record had been established.
已经创造了相当大的记录。
A lot of people had been interviewed.
很多人都接受过采访。
Voice of Peers Commission Member (Archival): Did Captain Medina say anything about what the company should do in the village?
同行之声委员会成员(档案):梅迪纳队长有没有说过公司应该在村里做什么?
Voice of Man Testifying (Archival): He said that there wasn't going to be anything left alive in the village.
男子作证之声(档案):他说村子里不会再有任何活着的东西了。
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: It was clear that many, many people had died.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:很明显,很多很多人已经死亡。
Old men, women with children in their arms, and babies.
老人、怀里抱着孩子的妇女和婴儿。
And they had been unarmed, they had been unresisting, and they had been, in my judgment, massacred.
他们手无寸铁,没有抵抗,根据我的判断,他们被屠杀了。
Voice of Man Testifying (Archival): Lieutenant Calley came back and he said, 'Take care of 'em.' He says, 'I mean, kill 'em.'
男子作证之声(档案):卡利中尉回来后说:“照顾他们。”他说,“我的意思是,杀了他们。”
Voice of Man Testifying (Archival): When they were all just lined up and shot like that, it sort of reminded me of newsreels of Hitler.
男子作证之声(档案):当他们都像那样排列并拍摄时,这让我想起了希特勒的新闻片。
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: There certainly appeared that there had been an effort to cover up what happened at My Lai.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:显然有人试图掩盖美莱村发生的事情。
That seemed to be clear.
这似乎很清楚。
Voice of Peers Commission Member (Archival): Did Mr. Thompson mention anything to you about landing alongside of a ditch that contained a large number of bodies?
同行之声委员会成员(档案):汤普森先生有没有向您提到过有关降落在一条包含大量尸体的沟渠旁边的事情?
Voice of Colonel Oran Henderson (Archival): No Sir.
奥兰·亨德森上校的声音(档案):不,先生。
He did not report to me any instance of a U.S. soldier firing into a ditch.
他没有向我报告任何美国士兵向沟渠开枪的事件。
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: To bring a case like this, given its potential magnitude, it had to be solid.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:考虑到其潜在的规模,要提起这样的案件,它必须是可靠的。
It had to be very strong.
它必须非常强大。
It had to be believable.
它必须是可信的。
And it had to make believable an event which nobody would ever want to believe.
它必须让一个没人愿意相信的事件变得可信。
The question was what was the scale that we were dealing with?
问题是我们正在处理的规模有多大?
How big was this and who did it?
这件事有多大,是谁干的?
Who killed these people?
是谁杀了这些人?
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: Charlie Company was a cross-section of just your general, basic young people at that point in time.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:查理公司当时只是普通、基本年轻人的一个横截面。
We were from all over the country.
我们来自全国各地。
You know - East Coast, West Coast, Blacks, Whites, Mexicans - there was nothing special about us.
你知道——东海岸、西海岸、黑人、白人、墨西哥人——我们没有什么特别的。
We were just your common, ordinary teen.
我们只是你们普通的、普通的青少年。
I'd gone to college for couple semesters after high school.
高中毕业后我上了大学几个学期。
I wasn't cut out for college, I went to be a teacher, and then it was like no, the wrong profession.
我不适合上大学,我去当了一名教师,然后就好像不,我的职业是错误的。
Having grown up with parents that came from World War II and people that were in the Korean War and everything, being exposed to their generations, yeah, you felt it was basically your duty to go ahead and go to war.
与来自二战的父母和参加过朝鲜战争的人们一起长大,接触到他们的世代,是的,你觉得继续参战基本上是你的责任。
Lawrence La Croix, Squad Leader: My father was a battalion commander in World War II.
劳伦斯·拉·克鲁瓦(Lawrence La Croix),班长:我的父亲是二战中的一名营长。
I considered him kind of a cross between John Wayne and Steve McQueen or something.
我认为他是约翰·韦恩和史蒂夫·麦奎因之类的混合体。
I did have a notion of what it was going to be like, that it was patriotic, that it was the thing to do.
我确实知道它会是什么样子,这是爱国的,这是要做的事情。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: I was born in Utah - pretty typical Mormon family.
格雷格·奥尔森(Greg Olsen),机枪手:我出生在犹他州——非常典型的摩门教家庭。
I went into the Army right out of high school.
我高中一毕业就参军了。
Walter Cronkite, CBS News Anchor (Archival): : In the Vietnam War, U.S. Marines battled North Vietnamese throughout the day...
沃尔特·克朗凯特,哥伦比亚广播公司新闻主播(档案)::在越南战争中,美国海军陆战队整天与北越作战......
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: Vietnam was all around us.
格雷格·奥尔森,机枪手:越南就在我们身边。
You know, it was in the press and talking about it in school, and we had a real strong curiosity.
你知道,媒体上和学校里都在谈论它,我们有非常强烈的好奇心。
We wanted to see it for ourselves.
我们想亲眼看看。
CBS News Reporter (Archival): The artillery is trying to suppress a Communist attack on Baker Company which is about 5,000 meters to our front.
哥伦比亚广播公司新闻记者(档案):炮兵正在试图压制共产党对贝克连的进攻,贝克连距离我们的战线大约 5000 米。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: Aside from just a sense of adventure, I was caught up a little bit in the domino theory that it truly was a necessary war.
格雷格·奥尔森,机枪手:除了冒险感之外,我还被多米诺骨牌理论所吸引,认为这确实是一场必要的战争。
John Smail, Squad Leader: You know when I first went, I was into the idea that I was going to free these people and stop Communists from spreading.
约翰·斯梅尔(John Smail),班长:你知道,当我第一次去的时候,我的想法是要释放这些人并阻止共产党的蔓延。
I didn't go over there to be a hero or nothing.
我去那里不是为了成为英雄或者什么也不是。
I just went over there to do my job.
我只是去那里做我的工作。
John Smail, Squad Leader: When I first landed in Hawaii, I thought I was in paradise.
约翰·斯梅尔(John Smail),班长:当我第一次抵达夏威夷时,我以为自己身处天堂。
I mean, 70-some degrees at 3 o'clock in the morning and then they bused us south to Schofield barracks and there's banana trees and everything so I thought it was paradise.
我的意思是,凌晨 3 点,气温 70 多度,然后他们用公共汽车把我们送到南方的斯科菲尔德军营,那里有香蕉树和一切,所以我认为那是天堂。
It didn't take long for that to end.
没过多久,这一切就结束了。
The East range where we did most of our training, it was straight up and down, and it was a real jungle.
我们大部分训练都是在东部训练场进行的,那里是直上直下的,那是一个真正的丛林。
Michael Bilton, Writer: It's quite clear that in Hawaii they excelled themselves in the jungles.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:很明显,在夏威夷,他们在丛林中表现出色。
Charlie Company was voted the best company in the 1st 20th Battalion.
查理连被评为第20营最佳连。
Their captain was almost a folk hero.
他们的队长几乎是一位民间英雄。
Medina had come up through the ranks from a Mexican-American background.
梅迪纳是从墨西哥裔美国人背景中晋升的。
He related to the men; he was a hard man, he didn't give them an easy time, but they respected him, and many of them loved him.
他与男人有关系;他是一个严厉的人,他没有给他们带来轻松的时光,但他们尊重他,而且很多人都爱他。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: The motto of the Army is "Follow me," and he was the type of individual you would follow anywhere and do anything for.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:陆军的座右铭是“跟随我”,他是那种你会跟随任何地方并为之做任何事的人。
Lawrence La Croix, Squad Leader: I found Captain Medina to be a very tough individual, very demanding.
劳伦斯·拉·克鲁瓦(Lawrence La Croix),班长:我发现梅迪纳上尉是一个非常坚强的人,要求很高。
He wanted us to be something unique and different, and you know, strong and capable and a force to deal with.
他希望我们成为独一无二、与众不同的东西,你知道,强大、有能力、有一股强大的力量。
Captain Medina came up with the idea that we were going to be called the 'Death Dealers.' He wanted us to carry aces of spades, and every time we killed a Vietcong we were to leave the ace of spades on it so that, you know, they knew that it was from the Death Dealers.
梅迪纳队长想出了一个主意,我们将被称为“死亡贩子”。他希望我们携带黑桃 A,每次我们杀死一名越共分子时,我们都要在上面留下黑桃 A,这样,你知道,他们就知道这是来自死亡贩子的。
Kenneth Hodges, Squad Leader: Lieutenant Calley was platoon leader of the first platoon.
肯尼思·霍奇斯,班长:卡利中尉是第一排的排长。
Young lieutenants are not liked very well.
年轻的中尉不太受欢迎。
Some are quite gung-ho, some are quite interested in making a name for themselves.
有些人非常热心,有些人则对出名很感兴趣。
Calley was sort of a mixture.
卡利是一种混合体。
He wanted to fit in.
他想融入其中。
I think when he found the Military he thought he found his calling, he found a place to fit in.
我认为,当他加入军队时,他认为自己找到了自己的使命,找到了融入的地方。
Thomas Turner, Team Leader: My first impression of Lieutenant Calley was he was always trying to please Captain Medina.
托马斯·特纳,队长:我对卡利中尉的第一印象是他总是试图取悦梅迪纳上尉。
He'd go out of his way to do things that were not called for and trying to please Captain Medina and that, to me it made, in my mind, it made Captain Medina resent him even more.
他会不遗余力地做一些不被要求的事情,并试图取悦梅迪纳上尉,这对我来说,在我看来,这让梅迪纳上尉更加憎恨他。
Jerome Walsh, Investigator, Peers Commission: Captain Medina would just call him a little shit or something.
杰罗姆·沃尔什(Jerome Walsh),同行委员会调查员:梅迪纳上尉只会骂他“小混蛋”之类的。
I mean, he ridiculed Calley.
我的意思是,他嘲笑卡利。
He made Calley feel inadequate, and Calley was always trying to do things to show that he was a real officer.
他让卡利感到自己不够格,而卡利总是试图做一些事情来表明他是一名真正的军官。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: By asserting his rank, he basically shielded himself from his men, he isolated himself.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:通过维护自己的地位,他基本上保护了自己免受手下的伤害,他孤立了自己。
Rank went to his head.
排名冲昏了他的头脑。
And that's a no-no.
这是一个禁忌。
Thomas Partsch, Grenadier: For the first month, it was like, "Where's the war?" You know, we had a lot of free time.
托马斯·帕奇(Thomas Partsch),掷弹兵:第一个月,就像是“战争在哪里?”你知道,我们有很多空闲时间。
The lounges, you know, the bars, it was really nice.
休息室,你知道,酒吧,都非常好。
We said, "Hey, I could do this for a year." We'd walk through the villages - mostly women, children, older people - we really didn't encounter anything where we went.
我们说:“嘿,我可以这样做一年。”我们走过村庄——主要是妇女、儿童、老人——我们所到之处确实没有遇到任何东西。
It didn't seem like there was a war going on over there!
那边好像没有发生战争!
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: You would go to a village, set up a perimeter.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:你会去一个村庄,建立一个边界。
Medics and doctors would come in, treat the civilians and we'd sit there and play with the kids.
医务人员和医生会进来治疗平民,我们会坐在那里和孩子们玩耍。
And there was nothing else to do.
而且没有其他事可做。
We always had fun with the kids.
我们总是和孩子们一起玩得很开心。
Do Ba, My Lai Villager: When I was young, I saw American soldiers.
我的莱村村民多巴:小时候,我见过美国士兵。
Whenever they came, they would gather up everyone.
每次他们来的时候,他们都会把所有人都聚集起来。
They would bring cake and candy for the children.
他们会给孩子们带来蛋糕和糖果。
Everyone would have some and then they would let us go home.
每个人都会有一些,然后他们会让我们回家。
Ha Thi Quy, My Lai Villager: I never would have imagined, never would have thought Americans would kill us.
我莱村村民河氏贵:我从来没有想象过,从来没有想过美国人会杀了我们。
When my children came home and asked if American soldiers were killers, I said, "No. Americans don't kill."
当我的孩子们回家问美国士兵是否是杀手时,我说:“不。美国人不杀人。”
Michael Bilton, Writer: Task Force Barker was set up around February.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),编剧:巴克特遣部队于二月左右成立。
Its real function was to try and break the infrastructure of the North Vietnamese Army and the Viet Cong in that central plain of Quang Ngai Province.
它的真正作用是试图破坏北越军队和越共在广义省中部平原的基础设施。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: Quang Ngai province had a reputation for 300 years for hating foreign occupying forces whether they were Chinese, French, Japanese, or Americans.
格雷格·奥尔森(Greg Olsen),机枪手:广义省 300 年来一直以仇恨外国占领军而闻名,无论他们是中国人、法国人、日本人还是美国人。
They just did not like strangers coming in among them and then exercising military power.
他们只是不喜欢陌生人进入他们中间然后行使军事权力。
Jonathan Schell, Writer: Great areas of the province had been declared Free Fire Zones.
乔纳森·谢尔(Jonathan Schell),作家:该省的大部分地区已被宣布为自由火区。
What that meant was you just kept up a constant round of the bombing of villages.
这意味着你不断地对村庄进行轰炸。
The U.S. Military loved to quote from Mao Zedong, especially, the saying that 'the guerillas are the fish and the people are the sea.' But the solution to that problem was to drain the sea.
美军很爱引用毛泽东的话,特别是“游击队是鱼,人民是海”的名言。但解决这个问题的方法是排干海水。
Tim O'Brien, Writer: Bullets can kill the enemy but bullets can also make an enemy - they can manufacture an enemy.
蒂姆·奥布莱恩,编剧:子弹可以杀死敌人,但子弹也可以制造敌人——它们可以制造敌人。
And I felt at times during my stay there that we were cranking out enemy soldiers or sympathizers by the way we treated the place.
在我逗留期间,我有时感到我们对待这个地方的方式正在激怒敌方士兵或同情者。
James S.
詹姆斯·S。
Olson, Historian: Soldiers had thought they were gonna go in there and be welcomed by the people whom they were going to save.
奥尔森,历史学家:士兵们以为他们会进入那里并受到他们要拯救的人们的欢迎。
Some of them thought it was going to be like going into Paris after D-Day.
他们中的一些人认为这就像诺曼底登陆后进入巴黎一样。
What they encountered instead was hostility, out right hostility and resentment from these people.
他们遇到的却是这些人的敌意,赤裸裸的敌意和怨恨。
Pham Thanh Cong, My Lai Villager: When I was eight years-old, I realized the war had come.
我莱村村民范清功:当我八岁的时候,我意识到战争已经来临。
There were many times when the American soldiers would set up operations around this area and raid and shoot.
美军士兵多次在该地区开展行动,进行袭击和射击。
So my mother brought me and my siblings together and taught us to flee.
于是,妈妈把我和兄弟姐妹带到一起,教我们逃跑。
Every night we had to crawl into the shelter to sleep.
每天晚上我们都得爬进避难所睡觉。
We had to avoid the American bombs and shootings.
我们必须避免美国的炸弹和枪击事件。
That was our misery.
那是我们的痛苦。
War from the Americans.
来自美国人的战争。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: We started pulling regular patrols end of January, beginning of February.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:我们从一月底、二月初开始定期巡逻。
Once we started down in the Pinkville area, we started losing people.
一旦我们从平克维尔地区出发,我们就开始失去人员。
They were they were being picked off one by one.
他们正在被一一剔除。
This is when we got our initiation into the realities of Vietnam with booby traps, mines, snipers.
从那时起,我们就开始了解越南的现实,那里有诱杀装置、地雷、狙击手。
Tim O'Brien, Writer: The Quang Ngai area was called Pinkville because on the military maps it was shaded a bright kind of shimmering pink.
蒂姆·奥布莱恩(Tim O'Brien),作家:广义地区被称为平克维尔(Pinkville),因为在军事地图上它呈现出明亮的闪烁粉红色。
The color pink took on associations for us that went way beyond anything you'll find on some color chart.
粉红色给我们带来的联想远远超出了您在某些色卡上找到的任何颜色。
It meant the prospect of death.
这意味着死亡的前景。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: Weber was the first member that we lost.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:韦伯是我们失去的第一个成员。
That had a real impact on the whole company, because we actually had somebody killed now.
这对整个公司产生了真正的影响,因为我们现在确实有人被杀了。
Thomas Turner, Team Leader: We were down by a river and walking on the rice paddies, and were we going down to this village that was kinda in the corner of the river and we started taking sniper fire.
托马斯·特纳(Thomas Turner),团队负责人:我们在河边的稻田上行走,当我们走到河角的这个村庄时,我们开始受到狙击手的射击。
Lieutenant Calley wanted us to go across the river to where that sniper fire was coming from.
卡利中尉要我们过河到狙击手射击的地方。
Well, we hadn't hardly got started and there was a sniper round and it got Bill Weber.
好吧,我们还没开始,就出现了一轮狙击,比尔·韦伯被击中。
He pretty well died on the scene but not without a lot of anguish.
他很可能当场死亡,但也充满了痛苦。
Joe Grimes, Squad Leader: He was a good guy to everybody, you know, and when he got killed, it's just like part of your family; they destroyed part of your family.
乔·格莱姆斯(Joe Grimes),班长:他对每个人来说都是个好人,你知道,当他被杀时,就像你家庭的一部分一样;他们摧毁了你家庭的一部分。
But that, I considered Charlie Company part of my family.
但我认为查理公司是我家庭的一部分。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: It wasn't long after that we started taking more casualties.
格雷格·奥尔森,机枪手:不久之后,我们开始造成更多伤亡。
Voice on Radio (Archival): We're in the process of crossing, receiving sporadic sniper fire, over.
广播之声(档案):我们正在穿越,收到零星的狙击手火力,结束。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: When you're dealing with snipers, it's like a roulette wheel.
格雷格·奥尔森(Greg Olsen),机枪手:当你与狙击手打交道时,就像玩轮盘赌一样。
You know, there's 30 or 40 of us out there walking around.
你知道,我们有 30 或 40 个人在那里走来走去。
Which one of us is going to get it?
我们当中哪一个人会得到它?
You know, you - it's a roll of the dice.
你知道,你 - 这是掷骰子。
And the same thing with the booby-traps.
诱杀装置也是如此。
Philip Caputo, Writer: The infantryman lives on the ground.
菲利普·卡普托,作家:步兵生活在地面上。
He walks on the ground, he sleeps on the ground, he eats on the ground.
他在地上走,在地上睡,在地上吃。
When you've got booby traps and land mines all of a sudden the earth becomes the enemy in a way, because you don't know what it may conceal.
当你设置了诱杀装置和地雷时,地球在某种程度上突然变成了敌人,因为你不知道它可能隐藏着什么。
Tim O'Brien, Writer: Where do you sit, and where do you put your feet, there or there?
蒂姆·奥布莱恩(Tim O'Brien),作家:你坐在哪里,你的脚放在哪里,那里还是那里?
And that choice is life or death.
这个选择是生还是死。
Army Medic (Archival): ...Speak to me.
陆军军医(档案):……跟我说话。
Speak to me.
跟我说话。
What's your name, tell me what your name is.
你叫什么名字,告诉我你叫什么名字。
Where you from?
你从哪里来?
Seattle, Washington that's a good town.
华盛顿州的西雅图,是个不错的小镇。
Good town, good town, very good town.
好小镇,好小镇,非常好的小镇。
Huh?
啊?
No, don't go to sleep, I don't want you to go to sleep, I don't want you going to sleep at all...
不,别睡,我不想让你睡,我根本不想让你睡……
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: You can't fight, there's nothing to fight.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:你无法战斗,没有什么可战斗的。
You can't fight a mine.
你无法对抗地雷。
You can't fight a booby trap.
你无法对抗诱杀装置。
You can't fight a sniper.
你无法对抗狙击手。
You can try to find that sniper and eliminate him, but they hit and run.
你可以尝试找到那个狙击手并消灭他,但他们打了就跑。
Joe Grimes, Squad Leader: You just wanted to get up and yell, and we did.
乔·格莱姆斯(Joe Grimes),班长:你们只是想站起来大喊大叫,我们做到了。
You know, we yelled, "Come on out," you know, but their snipers were probably over there laughing at us, they wouldn't come out, they wouldn't come out.
你知道,我们喊道,“出来吧,”你知道,但他们的狙击手可能在那边嘲笑我们,他们不出来,他们不出来。
Michael Bilton, Writer: This went on for several weeks.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:这种情况持续了几个星期。
They're gradually losing more and more wounded until they came to a minefield.
他们逐渐失去越来越多的伤员,直到来到雷区。
Kenneth Hodges, Squad Leader: Our second platoon was in one area, and first platoon was ahead of us in another area, but we walked in two minefields almost simultaneously.
班长肯尼思·霍奇斯:我们的第二排在一个区域,第一排在我们前面的另一个区域,但我们几乎同时走进了两个雷区。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: Once the first mine was tripped, anybody who moved was setting off booby traps.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:一旦第一个地雷被触发,任何移动的人都会引爆陷阱。
It was like nonstop.
就好像不间断的一样。
Somebody would go to try to help somebody, that tripped a booby trap, they would hit a booby trap, they'd get blown up.
有人会去尝试帮助某人,但他们绊倒了陷阱,他们会击中陷阱,他们会被炸毁。
John Smail, Squad Leader: I could see 'em going off and I could hear people screaming 'medic, medic.' You lay there for a minute then, you know, you gotta get up, you gotta go.
约翰·斯梅尔(John Smail),班长:我可以看到他们开始行动,我可以听到人们尖叫“军医,军医”。你在那里躺了一分钟,然后你知道,你必须站起来,你必须走。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: We were a close-knit group.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:我们是一个紧密团结的团队。
We were there for each other, and that was the problem.
我们彼此支持,这就是问题所在。
Somebody got hurt, you went to help, regardless.
有人受伤了,你无论如何都去帮忙。
You didn't care about the other mines.
你不关心其他地雷。
You went to help somebody.
你去帮助别人了。
And in the end, it cost more individuals getting hurt.
最终,更多的人受到伤害。
Thomas Turner, Team Leader: Bobby Wilson was in my squad.
托马斯·特纳(Thomas Turner),队长:鲍比·威尔逊(Bobby Wilson)在我的队伍中。
We were in single file and there was other guys behind us, and we were walking along and this huge explosion went off and it knocked me to the ground, and Bobby Wilson had tripped a Bouncing Betty.
我们排成一列,后面还有其他人,我们一路走着,突然发生了巨大的爆炸,把我撞倒在地,而鲍比·威尔逊则绊倒了弹跳贝蒂。
Bobby was pretty well split in half right up the middle and Medina was running through the minefield, barking out orders.
鲍比在中间被分成两半,而梅迪纳正在穿过雷区,大声发出命令。
He seemed to be fearless.
他似乎无所畏惧。
Voice of Captain Ernest Medina (Archival): He was split as if somebody had taken a cleaver right up from his crotch all the way up to his chest cavity.
欧内斯特·梅迪纳上尉的声音(档案):他被撕裂了,就好像有人用一把菜刀从他的胯部一直切到他的胸腔。
I've never seen anything that looked so unreal in my entire life.
我一生中从未见过如此不真实的东西。
We took a poncho and we spread it out.
我们拿了一件雨披,把它铺开。
The medic, started to pick him up by the legs, I reached underneath his arms to place him onto the poncho, we set him on top another mine.
军医开始抓住他的腿把他抱起来,我把手伸到他的胳膊下面把他放在雨披上,我们把他放在另一个地雷上。
My company by this time had suffered approximately 25 to 28 casualties, I was down somewhere to the vicinity of 105 men.
此时我的连队已经有大约 25 到 28 人伤亡,我的人员伤亡人数接近 105 人。
Joe Grimes, Squad Leader: I believe that the month of February was our most devastating month for Charlie Company.
乔·格莱姆斯(Joe Grimes),班长:我相信二月份对于查理连来说是最具毁灭性的一个月。
It drove us to the ground.
它把我们赶到了地面。
It's just like if you had a wound, and they would stick something in that wound and go a little bit deeper.
就像你有伤口一样,他们会在伤口上塞一些东西,然后扎得更深一些。
Every time somebody else got killed, and it was like that wound, and it would go a little deeper.
每次有人被杀,就像那个伤口,就会更深一点。
And the hurt never stopped.
而伤害从未停止过。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: Your mindset has to change and you've got to somehow figure out how to adapt.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:你的心态必须改变,你必须以某种方式弄清楚如何适应。
Your attitude towards the villagers, now - everybody's an enemy.
现在你对村民的态度——每个人都是敌人。
You don't know who to trust.
你不知道该相信谁。
You don't know who is a friend, who is a foe.
你不知道谁是朋友,谁是敌人。
You don't have a scorecard to tell you, well, this village over here is friendly to you, it's okay to go there.
你没有记分卡来告诉你,好吧,这里的这个村庄对你很友好,去那里就可以了。
Or, this village over here is sympathetic to the Communists...
或者说,这里这个村子是同情共产党的……
and you start to wonder who's who.
你开始想知道谁是谁。
Lawrence La Croix, Squad Leader: They know where the mines and booby traps are, they have to or they can't work in the fields, they can't move between villages, you know.
劳伦斯·拉·克鲁瓦(Lawrence La Croix),班长:他们知道地雷和诱杀装置在哪里,他们必须这样做,否则他们就不能在田里工作,他们不能在村庄之间移动,你知道。
So they know where everything is.
所以他们知道所有东西都在哪里。
But they're not gonna tell you.
但他们不会告诉你。
They're gonna let you blow your leg off.
他们会让你打断你的腿。
You begin to hate and the hatred becomes very intense and very real.
你开始仇恨,仇恨变得非常强烈和真实。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: Finally, you just throw the rulebook away.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:最后,你只需扔掉规则手册即可。
The rules of the game have changed.
游戏规则已经改变。
Instead of just going through villages, casually going through them, you went into villages, started ripping shit apart.
你不是只是穿过村庄,随便穿过它们,而是进入村庄,开始撕碎垃圾。
That became the standard now - we're not nice guys anymore.
现在这成了标准——我们不再是好人了。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: Individuals would just come out of nowhere and do things you would just find hard to believe, you know.
格雷格·奥尔森(Greg Olsen),机枪手:个人会不知从哪里冒出来,做一些你难以置信的事情,你知道。
I remember one guy that held a young girl at gunpoint and made her perform oral sex on him.
我记得有一个人用枪指着一名年轻女孩,让她对他进行口交。
And then, he cut off her ponytail and stuck it in his helmet.
然后,他剪掉了她的马尾辫,插在自己的头盔里。
And it always mystified me how somebody could walk around with that ponytail and not get questioned about it.
我总是很困惑,怎么会有人扎着马尾辫到处走,而不会受到质疑。
I don't think Medina had any interest in knowing all the details of what's going on out there.
我认为梅迪纳没有兴趣了解那里正在发生的事情的所有细节。
Michael Bilton, Writer: If officers and NCOs start behaving badly, then there is absolutely nothing, in a difficult situation, where young men are feeling frightened for their lives, not knowing the difference.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:如果军官和士官开始表现不佳,那么在困难的情况下,年轻人绝对不会对自己的生命感到恐惧,不知道其中的区别。
They expect to be shown what is right and what is wrong by the officers, by the NCOs, and when that discipline has fallen apart, then they were on the road to hell, frankly.
他们希望军官、士官们能告诉他们什么是对的,什么是错的,坦率地说,当这种纪律瓦解时,他们就走上了地狱之路。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: Dear Dad, how's everything with you?
格雷格·奥尔森,机枪手:亲爱的爸爸,你怎么样?
One of our platoons went on a routine patrol today and came across a 155-millimeter round that was booby-trapped.
今天,我们的一个排进行例行巡逻,发现了一枚155毫米子弹,里面装有诱杀装置。
Killed one man, blew the legs off two others, and injured two more.
杀死了一名男子,打断了另外两人的腿,并打伤了另外两人。
On their way back to the LZ, they saw a woman working in the fields.
在返回着陆区的路上,他们看到一名妇女在田里干活。
They shot and wounded her.
他们开枪打伤了她。
Then, they kicked her to death and emptied their magazines into her head.
然后,他们将她踢死,并将弹匣射入她的头部。
It was murder; I'm ashamed of myself for not trying to do something about it.
这是谋杀;我为自己没有尝试做点什么而感到羞耻。
This isn't the first time, Dad.
这不是第一次了,爸爸。
I've seen it many times before.
我以前见过很多次了。
My faith in my fellow man is all shot to hell.
我对同胞的信心彻底破灭了。
I just want the time to pass, and I just want to come home.
我只想让时间过去,我只想回家。
Saturday, we're being dropped in by air in an MVA stronghold.
星期六,我们将被空运到 MVA 的一个据点。
Don't expect any letters for a while, but please keep writing them.
暂时不会收到任何信件,但请继续写。
I love and miss you and Mom.
我爱并想念你和妈妈。
Michael Bilton, Writer: By the time it got to the fifteenth of March, Charlie Company were pretty well wound up.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:到了三月十五日,查理公司已经清盘得很顺利了。
They were told that there was a very good opportunity the next day that they would meet the enemy head on.
他们被告知,第二天有一个很好的机会,迎战敌人。
There was a lot of talk about a battalion, the 48th VC infantry battalion.
关于一个营,即越共第 48 步兵营,人们议论纷纷。
They were thought to be a pretty crack outfit, and they were said to be housed in and around the My Lai area.
他们被认为是一支非常出色的队伍,据说他们住在美莱地区及其周围。
The brigade commander, a man called Colonel Oran Henderson, wanted his battalions to be much more aggressive with the enemy.
旅长奥兰·亨德森上校希望他的营对敌人更具侵略性。
And it's fair to say Henderson wound up Medina, and Medina wound up Charlie Company.
公平地说,亨德森清盘了梅迪纳,梅迪纳清盘了查理公司。
Voice of Captain Ernest Medina (Archival): I told them this would give them a chance to engage the 48th VC battalion, that the 48th VC Battalion was the one that we had been chasing around the Task Force Barker area of operation, and that we would finally get a chance to destroy the 48th VC Battalion.
欧内斯特·梅迪纳上尉的声音(档案):我告诉他们,这将使他们有机会与第 48 越共营交战,第 48 越共营是我们一直在巴克特遣部队行动区域追击的那个营,我们最终将有机会摧毁第 48 越共营。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: Medina was psyched because here's our chance to confront the enemy.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:梅迪纳很兴奋,因为这是我们对抗敌人的机会。
We're getting our revenge on you.
我们正在向你报仇。
We're going to tear your ass apart for what you've done to us.
我们会因为你对我们所做的事而打碎你的屁股。
Lawrence La Croix, Squad Leader: We were to shoot literally anything that moved.
劳伦斯·拉·克鲁瓦(Lawrence La Croix),班长:我们几乎要射击任何移动的东西。
If it was growing, cut it down.
如果它正在生长,就把它砍掉。
If it was a building, burn it.
如果是建筑物,就烧掉它。
If it was a well, poison it.
如果是一口井,就往里面投毒。
If it was alive, kill it.
如果它还活着,就杀死它。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: I remember him telling us that the villagers have been warned out.
格雷格·奥尔森,机枪手:我记得他告诉我们村民已被警告离开。
There shouldn't be any innocents there and I think there was even questions asked is 'how would we know if they're innocent or not?' He said something to the effect, 'if they're there, you've got to assume they're the enemy.'
那里不应该有任何无辜者,我认为甚至有人问“我们如何知道他们是否无辜?”他说了一些大意的话,“如果他们在那里,你就必须假设他们是敌人。”
Lawrence La Croix, Squad Leader: There were no civilians.
班长劳伦斯·拉·克鲁瓦 (Lawrence La Croix):没有平民。
You see, that is the crux of what was told to us.
你看,这就是告诉我们的关键。
There are no civilians, you know, these are Vietcong, Vietcong sympathizers, it's a Vietcong stronghold, they are all Vietcong.
没有平民,你知道,这些是越共,越共同情者,这是越共的据点,他们都是越共。
Michael Bilton, Writer: Medina, I believe, was very clear that they were facing the 48th Vietcong infantry battalion.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:我相信麦迪纳非常清楚他们面对的是越共第 48 步兵营。
That was the intelligence he had been given, and he had no reason to question it.
这就是他得到的情报,他没有理由质疑。
The problem was that the information was wrong.
问题是信息是错误的。
The 48th infantry battalion were a hundred and fifty miles away, on the other side of Quang Ngai province.
第 48 步兵营位于一百五十英里外,在广义省的另一边。
And so the entire premise for going to My Lai was entirely false.
所以去美莱村的整个前提是完全错误的。
Kenneth Hodges, Squad Leader: The morning of the 16th started early.
班长肯尼思·霍奇斯:16 日早上开始得很早。
The mood was sort of somber, but there's an edge of excitement; we know that we're going into something big and we're gonna deal with them.
气氛有些阴郁,但又带着一丝兴奋;我们知道我们正在做一件大事,我们会处理它们。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: A little fear, anticipation.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:有点恐惧,有点期待。
This was our chance to prove ourselves as a fighting unit.
这是我们证明自己作为一支战斗部队的机会。
Kenneth Hodges, Squad Leader: We were instructed to pack a triple basic load of ammunition.
肯尼思·霍奇斯(Kenneth Hodges),班长:我们被指示携带三倍基本弹药。
Whereas a rifleman would carry 180 rounds, he was to triple that number.
一名步枪手可以携带 180 发子弹,而他却将这个数字增加了三倍。
So we were expecting great resistance in that village.
所以我们预计那个村庄会遇到很大的阻力。
Lawrence La Croix, Squad Leader: I would say that probably most of us didn't eat very much.
劳伦斯·拉·克鲁瓦(Lawrence La Croix),班长:我想说的是,我们大多数人可能吃得不多。
We were all anxious, concerned about what was going to be happening.
我们都很焦虑,担心会发生什么。
This was gonna be an all-out war.
这将是一场全面战争。
This was gonna be shades of Iwo Jima.
这将是硫磺岛的影子。
Michael Bilton, Writer: The helicopters would ferry them in three groups, and drop them in the patty fields, about two-hundred meters from the village - the first group of men would go through led by Calley, the second platoon would come in next, they would follow up with the third platoon and Medina's group.
迈克尔·比尔顿,作家:直升机将分三组运送他们,然后把他们扔到距离村庄大约两百米的肉饼地里——第一组人员将由卡利带领,第二排接下来,他们将跟随第三排和梅迪纳的小组。
This was the order that came down from on high.
这是从高处下来的命令。
They would have to move forward quickly and very aggressively.
他们必须快速而积极地前进。
Thomas Turner, Team Leader: I was on the lead helicopter; and there's probably 9 helicopters and 6 gunships on the side of us.
托马斯·特纳(Thomas Turner),团队负责人:我在领头直升机上;我们这边可能有 9 架直升机和 6 架武装直升机。
I remember making the big turn and heading back north straight for My Lai.
我记得我做了一个大转弯,然后直接向北返回美莱村。
Lawrence La Croix, Squad Leader: We began hearing radio chatter that the helicopters were fired on.
劳伦斯·拉·克鲁瓦(Lawrence La Croix),班长:我们开始听到无线电中说直升机遭到射击。
The helicopter pilot turned to us and told us that we were coming into a hot LZ.
直升机飞行员转向我们并告诉我们,我们正在进入炎热的着陆区。
The meaning which was quite clear, we were under fire.
意思很清楚,我们受到了攻击。
As we touched down, the door gunners were firing.
当我们着陆时,舱门炮手正在开火。
There were rounds zinging kind of all around.
周围都有子弹在嗡嗡作响。
It's hard to tell where they were coming from at that point.
很难说他们当时来自哪里。
We hit the ground and almost immediately started firing into the village area.
我们落地后几乎立即开始向村庄地区开火。
Kenneth Hodges, Squad Leader: The squad leaders, myself and others, are instructing their soldiers let's get up on line, let's move it, let's move it, you gotta get in position, we're gonna move out.
班长肯尼思·霍奇斯:班长、我自己和其他人正在指示他们的士兵,让我们站起来,让我们移动它,让我们移动它,你必须就位,我们要出发。
Thomas Turner, Team Leader: I remember somebody yelling, 'there's people moving in the village,' and then we could see people running and so we all opened up.
托马斯·特纳(Thomas Turner),团队负责人:我记得有人大喊,“村里有人在移动”,然后我们可以看到人们在奔跑,所以我们都敞开了心扉。
I think we had it in our minds that we were not gonna get pinned down out there.
我认为我们心里有一个想法,那就是我们不会被困在那里。
Thomas Partsch, Grenadier: We assumed that we were going to hit VC only, that the civilians would be gone from that entire village.
Thomas Partsch,掷弹兵:我们假设我们只会攻击 VC,整个村庄的平民都会消失。
When we went in further, we did start finding people.
当我们进一步深入时,我们确实开始寻找人。
Like, they started coming out of their house.
就像,他们开始走出家门。
And we're saying, 'Oh, wait a minute.
我们说,‘哦,等一下。
What the hell is this?
这到底是什么?
They're not supposed to be in here.' At first, nobody did anything.
他们不应该在这里。起初,没有人做任何事情。
Then, a couple of crazy guys said, 'Hey, they must be VC." Some of the guys started shootin'.
然后,几个疯狂的家伙说,‘嘿,他们一定是 VC。’有些人开始射击。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: Once the first civilian was killed it was too late, period.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:一旦第一个平民被杀,就太晚了,就这样。
Whoever killed the first civilian that was the end of - end of the situation.
无论谁杀死了第一个平民,局势就结束了。
It went out of control.
它失去了控制。
Ronald Haeberle, Army Photographer: It was just shoot, shoot, shoot at anything.
Ronald Haeberle,陆军摄影师:就是拍摄、拍摄、拍摄任何东西。
I don't care what moved.
我不在乎什么移动了。
I mean, it's just - the person would come out of a hut.
我的意思是,这只是——这个人会从小屋里出来。
Bang, shoot!
砰,射击!
It was just complete carnage there that day.
那天那里完全是一场大屠杀。
Lawrence La Croix, Squad Leader: We did see bunkers and we did start throwing grenades into the bunkers.
劳伦斯·拉·克鲁瓦(Lawrence La Croix),班长:我们确实看到了掩体,并且我们确实开始向掩体中扔手榴弹。
It was about that time that we started hearing the screaming from inside.
就在那时,我们开始听到里面传来尖叫声。
Pham Thanh Cong, My Lai Villager: Around 8:30, three American soldiers came to my house.
美莱村村民范清功:8点30分左右,三名美国士兵来到我家。
They pushed six of us down into the shelter and threw a hand grenade in behind us.
他们把我们六个人推入避难所,并在我们身后扔了一枚手榴弹。
And then they used their machine guns to shoot us down.
然后他们用机枪将我们击落。
My entire family was blown into pieces.
我全家都被炸成了碎片。
The only person left alive was me.
唯一活着的人就是我。
Tran Nam, My Lai Villager: Suddenly, an American soldier came in carrying a gun.
美莱村民陈南:突然,一名美国士兵拿着枪进来。
I saw my father collapse, and then my mother, my grandfather, and my grandmother, they all continued to fall.
我看到我的父亲倒下了,然后我的母亲,我的祖父,我的祖母,他们都在继续倒下。
My brother, younger than me, only three years old, suddenly they blasted his head open.
我弟弟比我小,只有三岁,突然他们把他的头炸开了。
One shot and his head blasted onto the floor.
一枪把他的头炸到地板上。
John Smail, Sergeant: We were a unit that was full of anger, frustration.
约翰·斯梅尔(John Smail)中士:我们是一支充满愤怒和沮丧的部队。
We wanted contact, we wanted to fight the enemy, and we were told we were doing it.
我们想要接触,我们想要与敌人作战,我们被告知我们正在这样做。
Kenneth Hodges, Squad Leader: I am a soldier and I received and obeyed the orders that were issued to me by my superiors.
班长肯尼思·霍奇斯:我是一名士兵,我接受并服从上级向我发出的命令。
The order was to kill or destroy everything in the village, the children happened to be there.
命令是杀死或摧毁村里的一切,孩子们恰好在那里。
The people of that village were Vietcong or Vietcong sympathizers.
那个村子里的人都是越共或越共同情者。
Maybe some see it differently.
也许有些人有不同的看法。
That's the way I see it.
我就是这么看的。
Ronald Haeberle, Army Photographer: I was the photographer on the operation that day.
Ronald Haeberle,陆军摄影师:我是那天行动的摄影师。
I just photographed everything that I came upon.
我只是拍下了我遇到的一切。
I was coming up to a group of people who were huddled and they had some, you know, American GIs surrounding them.
我走到一群挤在一起的人面前,他们周围有一些美国大兵。
One soldier spoke up and said, "Hey!
一名士兵大声说道:“嘿!
Here's a person with a camera!" And, sure enough, the soldiers backed off and I moved up and I took a photograph of these people.
这里有一个拿着相机的人!”果然,士兵们后退了,我走上前,给这些人拍了一张照片。
You can see the fear in the faces on there especially the small children, and the older woman trying to protect the daughter.
你可以看到人们脸上的恐惧,尤其是小孩子和试图保护女儿的年长妇女。
Then, all of a sudden, the next instant, automatic fire.
然后,突然,下一个瞬间,自动开火。
They were all shot.
他们都被枪杀了。
I saw them drop to the ground.
我看到他们掉到了地上。
Dan Millians, Helicopter Pilot: As I recall on that particular day, I was flying a gunship, tagging along behind the OH-23 flown by Hugh Thompson.
丹·米利安斯(Dan Millians),直升机飞行员:我记得那天,我驾驶着一架武装直升机,跟在休·汤普森(Hugh Thompson)驾驶的 OH-23 后面。
We were told it was a typical combat assault, near an area called Pinkville on the map.
我们被告知这是一次典型的战斗袭击,地点靠近地图上名为平克维尔的地区。
It was a strange looking map for that particular area, because it looked like there should be a lot of buildings and everything, but when you get out there it really is not much of anything, just small hamlets scattered about.
对于那个特定区域来说,这是一张看起来很奇怪的地图,因为它看起来应该有很多建筑物和一切,但当你走出去时,它实际上什么也没有,只是散布着的小村庄。
The OH-23 flown by Hugh Thompson, it had a door gunner on either side, and he would fly low, treetop level, basically, trying to draw fire or make somebody run.
休·汤普森 (Hugh Thompson) 驾驶的 OH-23 两侧各有一个机门机枪手,他会飞得很低,基本上与树顶齐平,试图吸引火力或让某人逃跑。
It's pretty much a bait-type operation.
这几乎是一个诱饵式的操作。
Trent Angers, Writer: Hugh Thompson's job was supremely dangerous; the kill rate was something like 40 or 50%.
特伦特·安格斯(Trent Angers),编剧:休·汤普森的工作极其危险。杀灭率约为 40% 或 50%。
I think that what motivated Hugh to join the Army was just his patriotism, his love for his country.
我认为促使休参军的只是他的爱国主义,他对国家的热爱。
He was a soldier's soldier.
他是一名士兵中的士兵。
He was a, very much of a military mentality.
他是一个非常具有军人心态的人。
His father was a lifer in the Navy.
他的父亲是海军的终身军人。
His brother joined the Air Force and served two or three tours of duty in Vietnam.
他的兄弟加入了空军,并在越南服役了两到三次。
He also thought that flying a helicopter would be a very exciting profession.
他还认为驾驶直升机将是一个非常令人兴奋的职业。
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: The morning of My Lai, Hugh Thompson and I came on station at about 7:30, and it was crystal clear.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩(Lawrence Colburn),直升机炮手:美莱号的早晨,我和休·汤普森(Hugh Thompson)大约 7:30 到达基地,天气非常晴朗。
We came in at altitude and dropped down and started flying low level.
我们到达高空然后下降并开始低空飞行。
We thought that we were really helping the men on the ground and that's, that was our main objective.
我们认为我们确实在帮助当地的人们,这就是我们的主要目标。
Dan Millians, Helicopter Pilot: We came in and strafed the tree lines on either side of the landing zone to suppress anybody that might want to jump up and shoot.
丹·米利安斯(Dan Millians),直升机飞行员:我们飞来扫射着陆区两侧的林线,压制任何可能想要跳起来射击的人。
We got no fire.
我们没有起火。
We were never fired upon.
我们从未遭到射击。
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: We started to just check the perimeter.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩(Lawrence Colburn),直升机炮手:我们开始只是检查周边。
We saw people leaving the area, which was not unusual, it was a Saturday morning, people would go to market on Saturday morning.
我们看到人们离开该地区,这并不罕见,那是星期六早上,人们会在星期六早上去市场。
We thought wonderful, they're getting out of the way let's continue our recon, we were off, or out of that particular area for ten, fifteen, maybe twenty minutes.
我们觉得太好了,他们让开了,让我们继续侦察,我们离开了,或者离开那个特定区域十分钟,十五分钟,也许二十分钟。
When we came back, those same people were dead or dying on the road.
当我们回来时,那些人已经死了或者快要死在路上了。
Dan Millians, Helicopter Pilot: At some point during the day, we started seeing bodies accumulate in the village.
丹·米利安斯(Dan Millians),直升机飞行员:白天的某个时候,我们开始看到村子里堆积着尸体。
Women, kids - I'd never seen anything like that.
女人、孩子——我从来没有见过这样的事情。
It was bad.
很糟糕。
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: We lingered by one of the bodies that we marked, it was a young female with a chest wound, but she was still alive.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩(Lawrence Colburn),直升机炮手:我们在我们标记的一具尸体旁徘徊,这是一名胸部受伤的年轻女性,但她还活着。
Mr. Thompson decided he'd move back, stay at a hover and watch, and we saw a captain approach the woman, look down at her, kick her with his foot, step back and just blew her away, right in front of us.
汤普森先生决定后退,保持悬停状态并观看,我们看到一名队长走近这名女子,低头看着她,用脚踢她,后退一步,就在我们面前把她吹走了。
Later on we found that it was Captain Medina, Ernest Medina who did this.
后来我们发现这是梅迪纳上尉,欧内斯特·梅迪纳干的。
Lawrence La Croix, Squad Leader: As we got deeper into the village, we were given more or less a change of orders.
劳伦斯·拉·克鲁瓦(Lawrence La Croix),班长:当我们深入村庄时,我们或多或少接到了命令的改变。
We were to stop firing and to start moving people that we found over toward the center and pushing them into the center of the village and they were being picked up by Calley's platoon more or less and moved onward.
我们要停止射击,并开始将我们发现的人转移到中心,并将他们推到村庄中心,他们或多或少被卡利的排接住并继续前进。
Truong Tham, My Lai Villager: They start to take us all away.
美莱村村民 Truong Tham:他们开始把我们全部带走。
Everyone in the house, they took us to leave, all of us were taken away.
房子里的每个人,他们带我们离开,我们所有人都被带走了。
Pham Thi Tuan, My Lai Villager: I held one of my children, and led the other one.
美莱村村民范氏俊:我抱着一个孩子,牵着另一个孩子。
I walked with them until they told us to stop.
我和他们一起走,直到他们叫我们停下来。
They made us walk from inside the village, across the rice fields.
他们让我们从村里步行穿过稻田。
I pulled my kids to go with me.
我拉着孩子一起去。
I dragged my kids, but they still hit us, kicked us.
我拖着孩子们,但他们还是打我们、踢我们。
Michael Bilton, Writer: By the time they'd got out to the other side, they'd gathered together about a hundred and seventy old men, elderly women, mothers with small children, and pushing them, herding them, across to the eastern side of the village near to where a big drainage ditch was situated.
作家迈克尔·比尔顿:当他们走到对岸时,他们已经聚集了大约一百七十名老人、老年妇女、带着小孩的母亲,推着他们、赶着他们,穿过村庄的东侧,靠近一条大排水沟的地方。
And they were all standing around on the edge of the ditch and Calley was there with his platoon and Hugh Thompson was flying around in his small, scout helicopter.
他们都站在沟渠边缘,卡利和他的排就在那里,休·汤普森则开着他的小型侦察直升机四处飞行。
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: We continued to recon; checked on some of the people we marked earlier with smoke, they were gone.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩(Lawrence Colburn),直升机炮手:我们继续侦察;检查了我们之前用烟雾标记的一些人,他们已经走了。
At that point, Mr. Thompson noticed there was an irrigation ditch that he saw people in, so he landed the aircraft.
这时,汤普森先生注意到有一条灌溉沟渠,他看到有人在里面,于是他降落了飞机。
He approached the soldier that was near the ditch and said, 'These are civilians, we gotta help 'em out," and the soldier said, 'Yeah we'll help 'em out of their misery.' Mr. Thompson went through every scenario he could to give benefit of the doubt to the men on the ground, he did not want to believe that our people were doing this and he came back, got in the aircraft, we lifted off and we were fifteen, twenty feet off the ground and we heard automatic weapons fire.
他走近沟渠附近的士兵说,“这些是平民,我们必须帮助他们,”士兵说,“是的,我们会帮助他们摆脱痛苦。”汤普森先生经历了他所能想到的每一种情况,以相信地面上的人们,他不想相信我们的人正在这样做,他回来了,上了飞机,我们升空了,我们离地面十五、二十英尺,我们听到自动武器开火的声音。
Michael Bilton, Writer: Suddenly, Calley gave the order to start firing, and Calley and a young man called Meadlo turn their rifles, their M16 rifles on this group and began shooting.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),编剧:突然,卡利下达了开火的命令,卡利和一个名叫米德洛的年轻人调转步枪,他们的M16步枪对准了这群人,开始射击。
Mothers started diving with their children into the ditch.
母亲们开始带着孩子跳进沟里。
One mother described it later as like ducks, going into the water.
一位母亲后来形容它就像鸭子一样,进入水中。
Voice of Paul Meadlo (Archival): Lieutenant Calley told me, "Meadlo, we got another job to do." And so, we started pushing them off and we started shooting them.
保罗·米德洛 (Paul Meadlo) 的声音(档案):卡利中尉告诉我,“米德洛,我们还有另一项工作要做。”于是,我们开始推开他们并开始拍摄他们。
So then all together we just pushed them all off and just started using automatics on them.
所以然后我们就一起把它们全部推掉并开始对它们使用自动装置。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: It didn't surprise me that Paul Meadlo was one of the participants with Calley in shooting down that group of people.
格雷格·奥尔森(Greg Olsen),机枪手:保罗·米德洛(Paul Meadlo)是与卡利一起击落那群人的参与者之一,我对此并不感到惊讶。
Paul, did have a strong sense of duty.
保罗确实有强烈的责任感。
He just did what he was told.
他只是按照别人告诉他的去做。
I've thought about what I would have done many times, if Calley would have put me in the position he did Paul and I would like to think I would have just said, "You got to be kidding me," and walked away and taken my chances that he wouldn't have shot me.
我多次想过,如果卡利把我放在他对保罗的位置上,我会怎么做,我想我会说,“你一定是在跟我开玩笑吧”,然后走开,碰碰运气,他不会开枪打我。
I don't think I could have done it.
我不认为我能做到。
I just really don't think I could have done it.
我只是真的不认为我能做到。
Thomas Turner, Team Leader: Calley yelled at me to come help him and I just kept walking; I didn't even turn around and answer him.
托马斯·特纳(Thomas Turner),队长:卡利对我大喊要我来帮助他,我只是继续走;我什至没有转身回答他。
And I thought at the time, "Well, that's disobeying an order, he can do anything he wants to me.' But I didn't care.
我当时想,“好吧,那是违反命令,他可以对我做任何他想做的事。”但我不在乎。
I wasn't gonna help him kill people in a ditch.
我不会帮他在沟里杀人。
To this day, I always think to myself what could I have done to stop it and I don't know the answer to that.
直到今天,我总是在想我可以做些什么来阻止它,但我不知道答案。
Do Ba, My Lai Villager: They started to push all the people down into the ditch, including my family.
我莱村多巴:他们开始把所有的人都推到沟里,包括我的家人。
And they started shooting at will.
他们开始随意射击。
After the first round, my mother and I were still alive, so were my two younger siblings.
第一轮比赛结束后,我和我的母亲还活着,我的两个弟弟妹妹也还活着。
After the second, my two younger siblings died, but my mother was still alive.
第二次之后,我的两个弟弟妹妹都死了,但我的母亲还活着。
At the third shooting, my mother died.
第三次枪击时,我母亲死了。
To survive, I lay under my mother's stomach as the ditch filled with blood.
为了生存,我躺在母亲的肚子下,沟里充满了血。
Pham Thi Thuan, My Lai Villager: My daughter, Lien, I used my breast to cover her mouth so she wouldn't cry.
美莱村村民范氏顺 (Pham Thi Thuan):我的女儿连恩 (Lien),我用乳房捂住她的嘴,这样她就不会哭了。
I saw my father walking around.
我看见父亲走来走去。
I wanted to tell him, "Please lie down, Dad.
我想对他说:“爸爸,请躺下。
If you do, you'll live." But I didn't dare say it.
如果你这么做了,你就能活下去。”但我不敢说出来。
I just let my father walk around there and they went over there and shot him.
我只是让我父亲在那里走动,他们就过去枪杀了他。
Half of his head blew away.
他的半个头被炸飞了。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: I was coming out of the other end of the village and Calley was standing at a low point, and he was waving us and directing us across the ditch and I got to the ditch, and it was full of bodies.
格雷格·奥尔森(Greg Olsen),机枪手:我从村庄的另一端出来,卡利站在一个低处,他向我们招手,引导我们穿过沟渠,我到达沟渠时,发现沟里堆满了尸体。
That's when your senses just shut down.
那时你的感官就会关闭。
I mean I don't-to this day, I don't know how I walked across that ditch.
我的意思是我不知道——直到今天,我都不知道我是怎么走过那条沟的。
I remember looking down and making eye contact with somebody in the ditch, and it was like I was looking at a mannequin.
我记得我低下头与沟里的某个人进行眼神交流,就像我在看一个人体模型。
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: Mr. Thompson was just beside himself.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩(Lawrence Colburn),直升机炮手:汤普森先生简直要疯了。
He got on the radio and just said, 'This isn't right, these are civilians, there's people killing civilians down here.' And that's when he decided to intervene.
他在广播中说:“这是不对的,这些是平民,有人在这里杀害平民。”就在那时,他决定介入。
He said, 'We've got to do something about this, are you with me?" And we said "Yes."
他说,‘我们必须对此做点什么,你支持我吗?’我们说“是的”。
Trent Angers, Writer: Thompson now sees a small group of Vietnamese people running along a hedgerow, running for their lives, heading for a bunker.
特伦特·安格斯(Trent Angers),作家:汤普森现在看到一小群越南人沿着树篱奔跑,逃命,走向掩体。
And, in hot pursuit of them are the men from Charlie Company.
而紧追不舍的是查理连的人。
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: Mr. Thompson calculated they had less then thirty seconds to live.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩,直升机炮手:汤普森先生计算出他们的生命只剩不到三十秒。
He told us, "I'm going over to the bunker and get these people out myself.
他告诉我们,“我要去掩体,亲自把这些人救出来。
And if these American soldiers fire on these people or me when I'm getting them out of the bunker, shoot 'em." I remember thinking - how did we get into this?
如果当我把他们带出掩体时,这些美国士兵向这些人或我开枪,那就开枪射击他们。”我记得当时我在想——我们是怎么陷入这个困境的?
Thomas Turner, Team Leader: I was, probably less than 50 yards from this helicopter, and I remember the door gunners of that helicopters pointing their machine guns directly at me and thinking, "Oh my God, what are they gonna do?"
托马斯·特纳(Thomas Turner),队长:我当时距离这架直升机可能不到 50 码,我记得直升机的舱门炮手用机枪直接指着我,心想:“天啊,他们要做什么?”
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: Three people came out, six people came out, twelve people came out, eleven or twelve people came out of this little bunker.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩,直升机炮手:三个人出来了,六个人出来了,十二个人出来了,十一个或十二个人从这个小掩体里出来了。
That's when he got on the radio and called a friend of his, Dan Millians, a gunship pilot, and he said, "Danny I need a favor."
就在那时,他通过无线电给他的朋友、武装直升机飞行员丹·米利安斯打电话,他说:“丹尼,我需要帮个忙。”
Dan Millians, Helicopter Pilot: Hugh and his crew had a group of people gathered up to be taken out.
丹·米利安斯(Dan Millians),直升机飞行员:休和他的机组人员聚集了一群人,准备将他们带走。
And, I landed the helicopter, put 'em on, and we left with them.
然后,我降落了直升机,穿上它们,然后我们就带着它们离开了。
A gunship just never landed out in the boonies like that to pick up somebody.
武装直升机从来没有降落在这样的郊区去接人。
It was just not done.
只是还没有完成。
I don't know why we did it, other than the fact that those people needed to be out of there.
我不知道我们为什么这么做,除了那些人需要离开那里这一事实。
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: We went back to the ditch and I saw some motion down in the ditch.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩(Lawrence Colburn),直升机炮手:我们回到沟渠,我看到沟渠里有一些动静。
I saw this child move.
我看到这孩子动了。
Do Ba, My Lai Villager: I lifted my head up and saw a helicopter landing in the rice fields.
我莱村多巴:我抬起头,看到一架直升机降落在稻田里。
I was really scared, wasn't sure if they would shoot again.
我真的很害怕,不确定他们是否会再次开枪。
But when I lifted my head, I saw three American soldiers approach, so I pretended to be dead.
但当我抬起头时,我看到三个美国士兵走近,所以我就装死了。
But the Americans, the three of them came down into the ditch.
但是美国人,他们三个就掉进了沟里。
I looked up a second time and they came and pulled me out.
我第二次抬起头,他们过来把我拉了出来。
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: I remember taking the boy in my left hand by the back of his shirt thinking, "I hope these buttons are sewn on, or if the shirt lets go I'm going to lose the boy." Mr. Thompson knew that Quang Ngai hospital wasn't too far away, so we left the boy with a nun at the hospital, told the nun he probably doesn't have any family.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩(Lawrence Colburn),直升机炮手:我记得我左手抓住男孩的衬衫后背,心里想:“我希望这些纽扣都缝好了,否则如果衬衫松了,我就会失去这个男孩。”汤普森先生知道广义医院离我们不太远,所以我们把男孩留给了医院的一位修女,并告诉修女他可能没有家人。
Thomas Partsch, Grenadier: Time just seemed like to go on.
Thomas Partsch,掷弹兵:时间似乎还在继续。
An hour could've passed or 5 minutes could've passed.
一个小时可能已经过去,也可能已经过去5分钟。
After we got in so far we did get a "ceasefire, ceasefire!" And then, you'd still hear couple of the guns shoot off and, and then you hear the "ceasefire!" again.
在我们进入到目前为止,我们确实得到了“停火,停火!”然后,你仍然会听到几声枪响,然后你听到“停火!”再次。
And then, it was quiet.
然后,就安静了。
Pham Thanh Cong, My Lai Villager: They left my village in blood and fire.
My Lai 村民 Pham Thanh Cong:他们在血与火中离开了我的村庄。
Wives lost husbands, and children lost fathers, and our homeland and village were destroyed.
妻子失去了丈夫,孩子失去了父亲,我们的家园和村庄被毁了。
Tran Nam, My Lai Villager: When there were no more sounds of guns, they came home to bury the dead.
美莱村民陈南:当枪声不再时,他们就回家埋葬死者。
I ran home and there was nothing left.
我跑回家,发现什么也没有了。
My house was burned and destroyed.
我的房子被烧毁了。
I couldn't recognize my relatives.
我认不出我的亲戚了。
They were all burned.
他们都被烧死了。
There was nothing left.
什么都没有剩下。
My grandmother, I called to her, "Grandma, Grandma." I thought she was almost dead.
奶奶,我喊她:“奶奶,奶奶。”我以为她快死了。
She raised her hand up.
她举起了手。
She said "Grandma's here, dear.
她说:“亲爱的,奶奶在这里。
Lying here.
躺在这里。
They shot me right in my arm." When I called to my sister, she was outside, she just laid there unconscious.
他们朝我的手臂开枪。”当我打电话给姐姐时,她在外面,只是躺在那里不省人事。
But when she heard me call, she woke up and crawled over.
但当她听到我的叫声时,她醒了,爬了过来。
The three of us hugged each other and cried.
我们三个人抱在一起哭了。
We were covered in blood.
我们浑身是血。
Michael Bilton, Writer: The cover up at My Lai began immediately.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:美莱村的掩盖行动立即开始。
As soon as they got back to their base, too many people knew that something odd had gone on.
回到基地后,太多人都知道发生了奇怪的事情。
Already, Captain Medina had radioed to the headquarters giving false figures for how many enemy killed in action there had been.
梅迪纳上尉已经通过无线电向总部发出了关于在战斗中阵亡的敌人人数的虚假数字。
The official count was that a hundred and twenty-three Vietcong had been killed.
官方统计有一百二十三名越共被杀。
So that cover-up was constituted within hours, really, of them arriving home.
事实上,在他们回到家后的几个小时内,这种掩盖就已经完成了。
Kenneth Hodges, Squad Leader: After the My Lai operation and we returned to base camp, Captain Medina told us do not answer any questions from anyone, news reporters or anybody else, about this last mission.
班长肯尼思·霍奇斯:美莱行动结束后,我们返回大本营,梅迪纳上尉告诉我们不要回答任何人、新闻记者或其他任何人关于这最后一次任务的任何问题。
Thomas Turner, Team Leader: We all thought that we were going to get in big trouble.
托马斯·特纳(Thomas Turner),团队负责人:我们都认为我们会遇到大麻烦。
And, so, we didn't talk much about it.
因此,我们并没有过多谈论它。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: The rest of that day, we just started moving on deeper into the peninsula and we were told to take the high ground.
格雷格·奥尔森(Greg Olsen),机枪手:那天剩下的时间里,我们刚刚开始向半岛深处前进,我们被告知要占领高地。
And Medina specifically said, "Don't go past the wire, because there's an old Korean compound up there and it's heavily mined." We got to the wire, and Calley said, "Okay, you, you, you, and you.
梅迪纳特别说:“不要越过铁丝网,因为那里有一个古老的韩国大院,而且布满了地雷。”我们到了电话那头,卡利说:“好吧,你,你,你,还有你。
We're going up the top." And Calley took Meadlo as the point man.
我们要爬到山顶。”卡利选择米德洛作为核心人物。
They just barely got out of sight and Meadlo stepped on a mine and blew his foot off.
他们刚刚离开视线,米德洛就踩到了地雷,炸掉了他的脚。
And, when they were medevacing him out, the last thing he yelled at Calley, was, "God got me.
当他们把他救出来时,他对卡利大喊的最后一句话是:“上帝抓住了我。
He'll get you for what we did."
他会因为我们所做的事而抓到你。”
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: I don't remember if it was that day or the next day, all I remember is I was wearing the same fatigues, and they were covered in blood.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩(Lawrence Colburn),直升机炮手:我不记得是那天还是第二天,我只记得我穿着同样的迷彩服,而且浑身是血。
Mr. Thompson wanted me to come up and meet him, and report what we'd seen to Colonel Henderson.
汤普森先生要我去见他,并向亨德森上校报告我们所看到的情况。
Hugh went in first, came out didn't say anything, just showed me the door.
休先进去了,出来后什么也没说,只是带我出了门。
I went in and told Colonel Henderson exactly that there was unnecessary killing of civilians going on that day, a lot of civilians.
我进去并准确地告诉亨德森上校,那天发生了不必要的平民杀害事件,有很多平民。
He made a couple notes on a legal pad, didn't really react to it in any particular way.
他在便笺本上记了几条笔记,并没有做出任何特别的反应。
Dismissed me and I left.
解雇了我,然后我就离开了。
I met Hugh outside the command bunker.
我在指挥地堡外遇见了休。
He was having a fit.
他正在发作。
I think he broke the flight helmet, he threw it on the ground, he wanted to tear his wings off his uniform, said he'd never fly again.
我想他打破了飞行头盔,他把它扔在地上,他想把制服上的翅膀撕下来,说他再也不会飞了。
Trent Angers, Writer: Thompson reported this to his commanding officer in hopes of getting action and there was no action, there was no word, there was no buzz, no nothing.
特伦特·安格斯,编剧:汤普森向他的指挥官报告了这一情况,希望采取行动,但没有采取任何行动,没有任何消息,没有任何嗡嗡声,什么也没有。
Lawrence Colburn, Helicopter Gunner: After My Lai, they sent him out by himself in very dangerous areas, he crashed four, five helicopters within a two, three month period and he was beginning to think - and I don't think he was being irrational - he thought that someone was trying to make him go away.
劳伦斯·科尔伯恩(Lawrence Colburn),直升机炮手:在我的莱之后,他们把他自己送到了非常危险的地区,他在两三个月内撞毁了四、五架直升机,他开始思考——我不认为他是非理性的——他认为有人试图让他离开。
Trent Angers, Writer: The higher-ups in the Army understood that something like this could get them court-martialed, could get the men under them court-martialed.
特伦特·安格斯,作家:陆军高层明白,这样的事情可能会让他们受到军事法庭的审判,也可能会让他们手下的人受到军事法庭的审判。
So, the picture that the military publicity machine attempted to put out was that, there was no My Lai massacre; that American soldiers were not involved in the killing and the slaughter of women and children and old people.
所以,军事宣传机器试图展现的画面是:没有美莱村惨案;没有美莱村惨案。美国士兵没有参与杀害妇女、儿童和老人。
This is simply Communist propaganda and it's not true.
这只是共产党的宣传,事实并非如此。
Jerome Walsh, Investigator, Peers Commission: This is 1968.
Jerome Walsh,同行委员会调查员:这是 1968 年。
Killing civilians, by that time in Vietnam, was an issue because, of course, all the way up to Johnson, they were trying to calm people down in the United States.
当时在越南,杀害平民是一个问题,因为当然,一直到约翰逊,他们都在试图安抚美国人民。
So there wasn't any doubt about their reason for their wanting to cover it up.
所以他们想要掩盖此事的理由是毫无疑问的。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: Following the My Lai incident, Charlie Company was sent out into the jungle for over two months straight.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:美莱村事件发生后,查理连被派往丛林,连续两个多月。
Thomas Turner, Team Leader: We were isolated and put out in the mountains; it was like somebody putting us out there so we wouldn't talk to anybody.
托马斯·特纳(Thomas Turner),团队负责人:我们被孤立并被安置在山里;这就好像有人把我们放在那里,这样我们就不会和任何人说话。
John Smail, Squad Leader: Fifty-four days.
约翰·斯梅尔,班长:五十四天。
Fifty-four days we were out.
我们出去了五十四天。
No change of clothes hardly.
几乎没有换衣服。
We were sick; we all got dysentery.
我们生病了;我们都得了痢疾。
Joe Grimes, Squad Leader: I truly believe that, we were sent there to never return; that we were never gonna make it out of there.
乔·格莱姆斯(Joe Grimes),班长:我真的相信,我们被派到那里就再也不会回来了;我们永远无法离开那里。
And that just stuck in my mind, why are they doing this, why are they sending us out at night?
这一直萦绕在我的脑海里,他们为什么要这样做,为什么他们要在晚上送我们出去?
You know, to get rid of these twelve people here?
你知道吗,要除掉这里的这十二个人吗?
And then the next night they send another twelve and get them?
然后第二天晚上他们又派了十二个人去拿?
The company changed after that and it was like, nobody cared anymore.
此后公司发生了变化,就好像没有人再关心了。
It had all been a game and the game was over, and we got whooped.
一切都只是一场游戏,比赛结束了,我们欢呼雀跃。
Ron Ridenhour, Journalist (Archival): I had been told of the incident several times by several different people and it became evident to me that there was a very real amount of truth behind the stories I had been told.
罗恩·里登霍尔,记者(档案):几个不同的人多次向我讲述了这一事件,对我来说,很明显,我所听到的故事背后有很多真实的事实。
Michael Bilton, Writer: Ron Ridenhour was an aspirant journalist.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),编剧:罗恩·里登霍尔(Ron Ridenhour)是一位有抱负的记者。
He had gone out to Vietnam to do his time there and had formed some very close friendships with members of Charlie Company.
他去越南度过了一段时光,并与查理公司的成员建立了一些非常亲密的友谊。
They were sitting down one day, telling war stories, and his friend said to him, "Hey did you hear what happened to Pinkville." He said, "No, what happened to Pinkville?" He said, "Well we went in there, and we just killed everybody." He said, "What?" Ridenhour made a promise to himself that he would see if he could get some more evidence of this, and bring it to the attention of the authorities.
有一天,他们坐下来讲述战争故事,他的朋友对他说:“嘿,你听说平克维尔发生了什么事吗?”他说:“不,平克维尔怎么了?”他说:“我们进去了,然后杀了所有人。”他说:“什么?”里登霍尔向自己保证,他会看看是否能找到更多这方面的证据,并提请当局注意。
Ron Ridenhour, Journalist (Archival): After my return from Vietnam, I wrote a letter - a long, definitive letter -which explained what the situation was as I knew it and exactly how I came across the information and what information I had and I called for an investigation.
罗恩·里登霍尔(Ron Ridenhour),记者(档案):从越南回来后,我写了一封信——一封长而明确的信——解释了我所知道的情况,以及我如何找到这些信息以及我掌握了哪些信息,并要求进行调查。
I made thirty copies of this letter and sent out thirty copies to various Congressional leaders and the administration.
我将这封信复印了三十份,并将三十份寄给了各个国会领导人和政府。
Michael Bilton, Writer: Inquiries start to be made of the American Military.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:美国军方开始受到询问。
Where is this place Pinkville?
平克维尔这个地方在哪里?
What has happened here?
这里发生了什么?
One of the investigators of the inspector general's core is sent out to interview members of Charlie Company who are still in the Military and subject to military discipline.
监察长核心的一名调查员被派去采访仍在军队并受军纪约束的查理连成员。
And in very short order, the information goes up the chain of command and people in the Pentagon know that something pretty awful has happened.
在很短的时间内,信息就传到了指挥系统,五角大楼的人们知道发生了一些非常可怕的事情。
James S.
詹姆斯·S。
Olson, Historian: The machinery of justice starts moving and so it's not gonna be kept inside the Army and finally Haeberle decides to sell those pictures.
历史学家奥尔森:正义机器开始运转,因此它不会保留在军队内部,最后海伯勒决定出售这些照片。
NBC News Anchor (Archival): The Cleveland Plain Dealer printed today a series of photographs it says it got from an Army combat photographer and it says the pictures show the bodies of South Vietnamese killed by the Americans.
NBC 新闻主播(档案):克利夫兰平原经销商今天印刷了一系列照片,据称是从一名陆军战斗摄影师那里获得的,并称这些照片显示了被美国人杀害的南越人的尸体。
James S.
詹姆斯·S。
Olson, Historian: Everybody saw those pictures.
历史学家奥尔森:每个人都看到了那些照片。
The pictures appeared in LIFE magazine and on nightly news stories over and over again.
这些照片一次又一次出现在《生活》杂志和晚间新闻报道中。
Harry Reasoner, CBS News Anchor (Archival): We'll now show the pictures published in the Plain Dealer and photographed from the newspaper, accounting for the poor quality.
Harry Reasoner,CBS 新闻主播(档案):我们现在将展示《Plain Dealer》上发表的图片以及从报纸上拍摄的图片,以解释质量较差的原因。
They were taken by Ronald Haeberle, while on a combat assignment for the Army.
他们是在为陆军执行战斗任务时被罗纳德·哈伯勒 (Ronald Haeberle) 带走的。
James S.
詹姆斯·S。
Olson, Historian: The pictures become almost ubiquitous.
历史学家奥尔森:这些照片几乎无处不在。
And they symbolized evil.
它们象征着邪恶。
And the more they're shown, the more difficult it is to kind of defend what happened at My Lai, or even to look at whatever extenuating circumstances might have been there at My Lai.
他们展示得越多,就越难为美莱村发生的事情辩护,甚至更难审视美莱村可能存在的任何情有可原的情况。
Walter Cronkite, CBS News Anchor (Archival): Survivors have claimed that an American infantry patrol sweeping through their village in March last year, executed more than 500 unarmed men, women, and children.
沃尔特·克朗凯特 (Walter Cronkite),哥伦比亚广播公司 (CBS) 新闻主播(档案):幸存者声称,去年 3 月,一支美国步兵巡逻队横扫他们的村庄,处决了 500 多名手无寸铁的男女和儿童。
NBC News Anchor (Archival): It's still isn't known exactly what happened in the Vietnamese village of My Lai, scene of multiple killings of civilians about 18 months ago.
NBC 新闻主播(档案):目前还不清楚越南美莱村到底发生了什么,大约 18 个月前,这里发生了多起平民被杀事件。
There are numerous charges...
还有很多罪名...
John Smail, Squad Leader: I got off work and I stopped at a bar to have a beer and the news was on and it flashed a picture of Calley, and I thought 'My God, that's my unit'.
约翰·斯梅尔(John Smail),班长:我下班后在一家酒吧停下来喝了一杯啤酒,新闻正在播放,上面闪现出卡利的照片,我想“天哪,那是我的部队”。
You know and they brought up Medina's name and then I'm listening to people at the bar, "Them f-ing babykillers," this, this, and that, and I just kind of sipped my beer.
你知道,他们提到了麦地那的名字,然后我就听酒吧里的人说,“他们是杀婴者”,这个,这个,那个,然后我就喝了一口啤酒。
Thomas Turner, Team Leader: I was going to Junior college and over breakfast I heard on the radio that the Army was investigating a massacre in Vietnam and I remember thinking, "I hope that's not the one that I was involved in."
托马斯·特纳(Thomas Turner),团队负责人:我当时正在上大专,早餐时我在广播中听到陆军正在调查越南的一场大屠杀,我记得我当时想:“我希望这不是我参与的那场大屠杀。”
News Reporter (Archival): Do you believe that there was a cover-up of this incident in South Vietnam, of the incident at My Lai 4?
新闻记者(档案馆):您认为南越事件、美莱四号事件被掩盖了吗?
Jerome Walsh, Investigator, Peers Commission: There was a huge uproar in the country.
杰罗姆·沃尔什(Jerome Walsh),同行委员会调查员:全国引起了巨大的骚动。
The top of the Army were absolutely furious that something like this could have happened two years before nearly and been held so that they knew nothing about it.
陆军高层非常愤怒,因为这样的事情竟然在两年前就发生了,而且还被关押起来,让他们对此一无所知。
So they really wanted to find out what had happened and who had covered it up.
所以他们很想知道到底发生了什么,是谁掩盖了这一切。
Michael Bilton, Writer: They had to look for somebody who was a member of the team, but was not necessarily going to be accused of covering up a cover-up.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:他们必须寻找团队成员,但不一定会被指控掩盖事实的人。
And the person they fell upon was Ray Peers.
他们撞到的人是雷·皮尔斯。
Peers had been a core commander in Vietnam.
皮尔斯曾是越南战争的核心指挥官。
He'd had a very distinguished military career, and he was a deeply, deeply honorable and decent man.
他有着非常杰出的军事生涯,是一个非常非常值得尊敬和正派的人。
News Reporter (Archival): General, is there any doubt in your mind now that a massacre did take place in My Lai on March 16, 1968?
新闻记者(档案):将军,您现在对1968年3月16日美莱村确实发生过屠杀事件还有疑问吗?
General William Ray Peers (Archival): That's one of the things we're trying to determine.
威廉·雷·皮尔斯将军(档案):这是我们试图确定的事情之一。
Jerome Walsh, Investigator, Peers Commission: Peers made the decision, look, before I can decide what's been covered up, I've got to know what happened.
杰罗姆·沃尔什(Jerome Walsh),同行委员会调查员:同行做出了决定,看,在我决定掩盖了什么之前,我必须知道发生了什么。
And the only way we're going to know what happened is to talk to everybody that was there that will talk to us.
我们要知道发生了什么的唯一方法就是与在场的每个人交谈。
There were maybe 800 people in this battalion.
这个营大约有800人。
And we had to contact every one of them and try to arrange for them to come to Washington and testify.
我们必须联系他们每一个人,并尽力安排他们来华盛顿作证。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: When it finally registers and sinks in that there's something going on was when you actually started getting subpoenaed to the Peers Committee.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:当你最终注意到并意识到发生了一些事情时,你实际上开始被传唤到同行委员会。
What kind of trouble were we in?
我们遇到了什么样的麻烦?
We don't know.
我们不知道。
Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner: We were picked up in a military limousine, unmarked, and taken to the Pentagon, and I don't know how many levels down we went but we went down.
格雷格·奥尔森(Greg Olsen),机枪手:我们被一辆军用豪华轿车接走,没有任何标记,然后被带到五角大楼,我不知道我们下了多少层,但我们下去了。
We went into what somebody referred to as a war room.
我们进入了有人所说的作战室。
There were gigantic maps of My Lai all the way around the room.
房间里到处都是巨大的美莱村地图。
And they set us down at the end of the table with a microphone in front of us; you're feeling pretty small.
他们让我们坐在桌子的一端,麦克风在我们面前。你感觉自己很渺小。
Voice of Peers Commission Member (Archival): The next witness is Sergeant Gregory T.
同行之声委员会成员(档案):下一位证人是格雷戈里·T·中士。
Olsen.
奥尔森。
Voice of Peers Commission Member (Archival): I show you also a 1 to 25,000-scale map which has been introduced in evidence as exhibit map 4.
同行之声委员会成员(档案):我还向您展示了一张 1 到 25,000 比例尺的地图,该地图已作为展览地图 4 作为证据引入。
If you take us through the village step-by-step...
如果你带我们一步步穿过村庄……
Voice of Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner (Archival): Well, I seen some of my friends shoot women, children, babies...
机枪手格雷格·奥尔森的声音(档案):嗯,我看到我的一些朋友射击妇女、儿童、婴儿......
Voice of Peers Commission Member (Archival): After you'd gotten out of the helicopter here in the landing zone, could you tell us the first thing that happened?
同行之声委员会成员(档案):当你在着陆区离开直升机后,你能告诉我们发生的第一件事吗?
Voice of Greg Olsen, Machine Gunner (Archival): I was in the second lift.
机枪手格雷格·奥尔森的声音(档案):我在第二部电梯里。
We landed here.
我们降落在这里。
Voice of Peers Commission Member (Archival): Alright.
同行之声委员会成员(档案):好的。
Could you mark about the location on there of the CP and just put a figure 1 and circle it...and which side of the village were you on?
你能在上面标出 CP 的位置,然后放一个数字 1 并圈起来吗……你在村子的哪一边?
Were you on the left or the right?
你是左边还是右边?
Thomas Partsch, Grenadier: Who was on your right?
Thomas Partsch,掷弹兵:谁在你的右边?
Who was on your left?
你左边的是谁?
Who was in front of you?
谁在你前面?
Who was on the side of you?
谁站在你一边?
What happened?
发生了什么?
What time was this?
这是什么时间?
Trying to, I assumed at that time, I didn't realize, you know, that they were trying to synchronize, "Are you lying?"
我当时假设,我试图这样做,但我没有意识到,你知道,他们正在试图同步,“你在撒谎吗?”
Jerome Walsh, Investigator, Peers Commission: Peers was distressed.
杰罗姆·沃尔什(Jerome Walsh),同行委员会调查员:同行很苦恼。
Terribly distressed.
非常苦恼。
The accumulation of all these things over the weeks of testimony really got to him, I think.
我认为,在几周的证词中积累的所有这些事情确实对他产生了影响。
And when he then would come across someone like Hugh Thompson, the helicopter pilot, it was almost a relief to him to realize that there are still really good Americans.
当他遇到像直升机飞行员休·汤普森这样的人时,他几乎松了一口气,因为他意识到仍然有真正优秀的美国人。
Voice of General William Ray Peers (Archival): I would like you to repeat what you told the Colonel (Henderson) at that particular interrogation?
威廉·雷·皮尔斯将军的声音(档案):我想让你重复一下你在那次特别审讯中对上校(亨德森)所说的话?
Voice of Hugh Thompson (Archival): I told him about seeing the wounded Vietnamese.
休·汤普森的声音(档案):我告诉他看到受伤的越南人的事情。
I told him that the captain (Medina) had came over and shot one of them; told him about seeing the bodies in the ditch.
我告诉他,队长(麦地那)过来射杀了其中一人;告诉他看到沟里尸体的事。
Voice of General William Ray Peers (Archival): How many bodies did you tell him were in the ditch?
威廉·雷·皮尔斯将军的声音(档案):你告诉他沟里有多少具尸体?
Voice of General William Ray Peers (Archival): How did you feel at this particular time?
威廉·雷·皮尔斯将军之声(档案):在这个特殊时刻,您有何感受?
Jerome Walsh, Investigator, Peers Commission: In Peers' mind, Thompson had done just what you'd want a soldier to do.
杰罗姆·沃尔什(Jerome Walsh),同行委员会调查员:在同行看来,汤普森所做的正是你希望一名士兵做的事情。
And almost nobody else ever had, and nothing happened as a result of it.
几乎没有其他人经历过,也没有因此而发生任何事情。
Michael Bilton, Writer: What shocked Peers was that people who were in a position to prevent it happening had not done so, and then when they had knowledge of something had gone wrong, had actually then covered it up.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:令皮尔斯感到震惊的是,那些有能力阻止这种情况发生的人却没有这样做,然后当他们知道出了问题时,实际上又掩盖了它。
Voice of General William Ray Peers (Archival): Did Mr. Thompson mention anything to you about landing alongside of a ditch that contained a large number of bodies?
威廉·雷·皮尔斯将军之声(档案):汤普森先生有没有向您提及有关在一条包含大量尸体的沟渠旁边着陆的事情?
Voice of General William Ray Peers (Archival): Did he mention to you seeing a Sergeant point his weapon in the direction of a ditch which contained some dead noncombatants?
威廉·雷·皮尔斯将军的声音(档案):他有没有向你提到看到一名中士将他的武器指向一条沟渠,沟渠里有一些死去的非战斗人员?
Voice of Colonel Oran Henderson (Archival): No, Sir.
奥兰·亨德森上校的声音(档案):不,先生。
He did not report to me any instance of a U.S. soldier firing into a ditch filled with noncombatants, or with anybody.
他没有向我报告任何美国士兵向充满非战斗人员或任何人的沟渠开枪的情况。
Jerome Walsh, Investigator, Peers Commission: I think General Peers was frustrated by his inability to get any kind of sensible explanations from Henderson...
杰罗姆·沃尔什(Jerome Walsh),同行委员会调查员:我认为,皮尔斯将军因无法从亨德森那里得到任何合理的解释而感到沮丧......
and concluded that Henderson - well, he was both incompetent and lying.
并得出结论,亨德森——好吧,他既无能又撒谎。
General William Ray Peers (Archival): I feel that the public is entitled to know that our inquiry's clearly established that a tragedy of major proportions occurred there on that date.
威廉·雷·皮尔斯将军(档案):我认为公众有权知道我们的调查清楚地表明那天发生了一场重大悲剧。
Michael Bilton, Writer: Peers knew that his report should be completely truthful, and had resulted in some thirty people, from up through the ranks from lieutenant, all the way up to a two star general, being charged with offenses involved in the cover-up itself.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:皮尔斯知道他的报告应该完全真实,并导致大约三十人,从中尉到两星将军,被指控犯有与掩盖事实本身有关的罪行。
Walter Cronkite, CBS News Anchor (Archival): At Fort Benning, Georgia, today, the prosecution opens its case against 1st Lieutenant William Calley, Jr. charged with the murder of more than 100 South Vietnamese civilians at My Lai.
沃尔特·克朗凯特 (Walter Cronkite),哥伦比亚广播公司 (CBS) 新闻主播(档案):今天,在佐治亚州本宁堡,检方对小威廉·卡利中尉提起诉讼,他被指控在美莱村谋杀了 100 多名南越平民。
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: I was an Army prosecutor at Fort Benning, Georgia.
奥布里·丹尼尔,陆军检察官:我是佐治亚州本宁堡的一名陆军检察官。
The first case was gonna be against Lieutenant Calley because he was to be discharged from the service in September of that year, and under the law, once he was discharged, the Army would no longer have jurisdiction to prosecute him.
第一个案件是针对卡利中尉的,因为他将于当年九月退役,根据法律,一旦他退役,陆军将不再有起诉他的管辖权。
So there were some time constraints.
所以有一些时间限制。
He was not charged with the massacre.
他没有被指控犯有屠杀罪。
He was charged with what he did.
他因自己的所作所为而受到指控。
That was not everything that was done in that operation, but I will say this, that the evidence clearly demonstrated that he was responsible for more killing than anybody else there by a long shot.
这并不是那次行动中所做的一切,但我要说的是,证据清楚地表明,他所造成的杀戮远远超过其他任何人。
Voice of Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor (Archival): Gentlemen, the accused stands here before you today charged with four specifications of premeditated murder are alleged to have taken place in the village My Lai 4, 16 March 1968.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔 (Aubrey Daniel) 的声音(档案):先生们,今天站在你们面前的被告被指控犯有四项预谋谋杀罪,据称这些谋杀案于 1968 年 3 月 16 日发生在 My Lai 4 村。
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: This was going to be the first case in which the story, in its entirety, would be told.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:这将是第一个完整讲述故事的案件。
And so I wanted to tell the story in such a way for the jury to know, both circumstantially and directly, all of the evidence, to demonstrate quite clearly that what those charges said had occurred had, in fact, occurred.
因此,我想以这样的方式讲述这个故事,让陪审团能够间接地和直接地了解所有证据,从而非常清楚地证明那些指控所说发生的事情实际上已经发生了。
These people were murdered, as we allege they were murdered.
这些人是被谋杀的,正如我们声称的那样,他们是被谋杀的。
They were unarmed, they were unresisting, they were children, and they were babies.
他们手无寸铁,没有反抗,他们还是孩子,他们还是婴儿。
Defense Lawyer (Archival): I will ask you whether in your opinion you were acting rightly in according to your understanding of your directions and orders?
辩护律师(档案):我想问您,您认为您按照您对指示和命令的理解行事是否正确?
Voice of Lieutenant William Calley (Archival): I felt then and I still do that I acted as I was directed, and I carried out the orders that I was given, and I do not feel wrong in doing so, Sir.
威廉·卡利中尉的声音(档案):我当时和现在仍然觉得我是按照指示行事的,我执行了给我的命令,而且我不觉得这样做有错,长官。
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: If the orders for that operation included unarmed, unresisting men, women, children and babies, it was illegal.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:如果该行动的命令包括手无寸铁、不抵抗的男人、女人、儿童和婴儿,那么它就是非法的。
And a soldier has a duty to disobey such an order.
士兵有义务不服从这样的命令。
Lawrence La Croix, Sergeant, Squad Leader: A lot of people talk about My Lai and they say, "Well, you know, yeah, but you know you can't follow an illegal order." Trust me, there is no such thing, not in the Military.
劳伦斯·拉·克鲁瓦 (Lawrence La Croix),中士,班长:很多人谈论 My Lai,他们说,“嗯,你知道,是的,但你知道你不能服从非法命令。”相信我,在军队里没有这样的事情。
If I go into a combat situation and I tell them, "No, I'm not going.
如果我进入战斗情况并告诉他们,“不,我不会去。
I'm not gonna do that.
我不会那样做。
I'm not going to follow that order," they'd put me up against the wall and shoot me.
我不会遵守这个命令,”他们把我按在墙上然后开枪射杀我。
Kenneth Hodges, Squad Leader: You train a man to soldier, you take him out of civilian life, you teach him to be a soldier, you train him to kill, you train him to follow orders, you express to him the importance of following orders, and you train him to kill.
肯尼思·霍奇斯,班长:你把一个人训练成士兵,让他脱离平民生活,你教他成为一名士兵,你训练他杀人,你训练他服从命令,你向他表达服从命令的重要性,你训练他杀人。
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: True, we kill our enemies, but there comes a point in time in which you don't kill your enemy.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:确实,我们杀死我们的敌人,但总有一天你不会杀死你的敌人。
He's entitled to be treated humanely.
他有权受到人道对待。
The most serious offense outside of war is the taking of a human life.
战争之外最严重的罪行是夺取人的生命。
And, in war, there has to be limits.
而且,在战争中,必须有限制。
I told the jury, finally, I wanted to speak for the victims.
我最后告诉陪审团,我想为受害者说话。
And, I reminded them, they did not receive any trial.
而且,我提醒他们,他们没有受到任何审判。
And, I said, "What were their crimes, these victims?
我说:“这些受害者,他们犯了什么罪?
Was it the crime of an infant simply to have been born in My Lai?
婴儿出生在美莱村就构成犯罪吗?
What were their crimes?" And, I said to them, "At the end of the day, you are the conscience of our country when you render this verdict."
他们犯了什么罪?”我对他们说:“归根结底,当你们做出这个判决时,你们就是我们国家的良心。”
Voice of Lieutenant William Calley (Archival): If I have committed a crime, the only crime I have committed is in judgment of my values.
威廉·卡利中尉的声音(档案):如果我犯了罪,那么我犯下的唯一罪行就是对我的价值观的判断。
Apparently, I valued my troops lives more than I did that of the enemy.
显然,我比敌人的生命更珍惜我的士兵的生命。
When my troops were getting massacred and mauled by an enemy, I couldn't see I couldn't feel and I couldn't touch, that was my enemy out there.
当我的部队遭到敌人的屠杀和殴打时,我看不到、感觉不到、摸不到,那是我的敌人。
And when it became between me and that enemy, I had to value the lives of my troops and I feel that is the only crime I have committed.
当事情发生在我和那个敌人之间时,我必须珍惜我的部队的生命,我觉得这是我犯下的唯一罪行。
Frank McGee, NBC News Anchor (Archival): Lieutenant William Calley has been found guilty.
弗兰克·麦吉 (Frank McGee),NBC 新闻主播(档案):威廉·卡利中尉被判有罪。
A jury that deliberated a record 13 days, after the longest court martial in American Military history, found Calley guilty on all four counts arising from the killing of innocent, unarmed South Vietnamese civilians at the village of My Lai.
在美国军事史上最长的军事法庭审判结束后,陪审团审议了创纪录的 13 天,裁定卡利在美莱村杀害无辜、手无寸铁的南越平民所犯的全部四项罪名成立。
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: I don't think there has ever been a verdict which has been more controversial, or generated a greater public outcry of opposition than the verdict in that case.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:我认为没有哪个判决比该案的判决更具争议性,或者引起了公众更大的反对。
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: And there were mass protests around the country.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:全国各地都发生了大规模抗议活动。
Draft boards were resigning.
选秀委员会纷纷辞职。
Veterans were turning in their medals.
退伍军人正在上交他们的奖牌。
It was enormous, overwhelming.
它是巨大的、压倒性的。
Protesters (Archival): It's not fair!
抗议者(档案):这不公平!
Free Calley!
释放卡利!
Free Calley!
释放卡利!
"My name is William Calley, I'm a soldier of this land...I've tried to do my duty and to gain the upper hand.
“我的名字是威廉·卡利,我是这片土地上的一名士兵……我努力履行我的职责并占据上风。
But they made me out a villain, they have stamped me with a brand as we go marching on..."
但他们把我塑造成一个恶棍,当我们继续前进时,他们给我打上了烙印……”
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: It was a country that wanted this war to end and a country which didn't want to believe that this had happened, but, if it did, it wanted to say that it's our fault collectively, and not his fault.
奥布里·丹尼尔,陆军检察官:这是一个希望结束这场战争的国家,也是一个不想相信这件事已经发生的国家,但如果真的发生了,它想说这是我们集体的错,而不是他的错。
Protester (Archival): Calley's been used.
抗议者(档案):卡利已经被利用了。
All the wars we've had in the United States we picked one man out of all them wars and say he committed atrocities against the enemy...
我们在美国经历过的所有战争,我们都从所有战争中选出一个人,并说他对敌人犯下了暴行......
Walter Cronkite, CBS News Anchor (Archival): Good Evening.
沃尔特·克朗凯特,哥伦比亚广播公司新闻主播(档案):晚上好。
President Nixon has ordered Lieutenant William Calley released from the stockade and confined to his quarters pending review of his conviction life sentence for the My Lai massacre.
尼克松总统已下令将威廉·卡利中尉从栅栏释放,并将其限制在自己的住所中,等待对他因美莱村大屠杀而被判处无期徒刑的复审。
The announcement came amid a deluge of telegrams to the White House - 25,000 a day - called the greatest expression of public sentiment by far on any issue of the Nixon Presidency.
这一消息是在向白宫发出大量电报之际发出的——每天收到 25,000 封电报——这被称为迄今为止公众对尼克松总统任期内任何问题最有力的情绪表达。
Michael Bilton, Writer: Within a very short space of time, President Nixon, trying to cope with some of the political fallout from this, and decided that while his appeal hearings were being held, Lieutenant Calley should not be imprisoned, but he could be out on bail.
迈克尔·比尔顿,作家:在很短的时间内,尼克松总统试图应对由此产生的一些政治影响,并决定在举行上诉听证会期间,不应监禁卡利中尉,但他可以保释。
Member of the Press (Archival): Mr. President, you have said that you intervened in the Calley case in the national interest.
新闻界人士(档案):总统先生,您说过您是为了国家利益而介入卡利案的。
I wonder if you could define for us in greater detail how you feel it was served by your intervention in the case?
我想知道您能否更详细地为我们解释一下您认为您对此案的干预有何效果?
President Richard M.
总统理查德·M.
Nixon (Archival): I felt that it was proper for me to indicate that I would review the case, because there was great concern expressed throughout the country as to whether or not this was a case involving as it did, so many complex factors, in which Captain Calley was going to get a fair trial.
尼克松(档案):我认为我表明我将审查此案是适当的,因为全国各地都对这起案件是否涉及如此多的复杂因素表示极大的关注,卡利上尉是否会在其中得到公正的审判。
Michael Bilton, Writer: Ultimately, he had to serve in total, about four months in the stockade at Fort Leavenworth and by that time it was deemed he had served enough time and he was released.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:最终,他必须在莱文沃思堡的栅栏里总共服刑大约四个月,到那时,人们认为他已经服刑了足够的时间,因此被释放。
Jerome Walsh, Investigator, Peers Commission: I think that Nixon's intervention passed the word that nobody is going to get punished for what happens here and so don't worry about it people.
杰罗姆·沃尔什(Jerome Walsh),同行委员会调查员:我认为尼克松的干预传达了这样的信息:没有人会因为这里发生的事情而受到惩罚,所以人们不用担心。
And the result of this was to completely undermine any further prosecutions of other officers.
这样做的结果是彻底破坏了对其他警官的进一步起诉。
Calley got away with it - and all the other people who were involved got away with it also.
卡利侥幸逃脱了惩罚——所有其他参与其中的人也都逃脱了惩罚。
Captain Ernest Medina (Archival): No I never had that actual feeling that I would be convicted.
欧内斯特·梅迪纳上尉(档案):不,我从来没有真正感觉到我会被定罪。
I always thought that my innocence would be proven in a court of law.
我一直以为我的清白会在法庭上得到证明。
I've always maintained that position and I'm glad it's over with.
我一直保持这个立场,我很高兴一切都结束了。
Slate: Lieutenant William Calley was the only My Lai defendant to be convicted.
Slate:威廉·卡利中尉是美莱村唯一被定罪的被告。
Charges against the other defendants were either dismissed or resulted in acquittal.
对其他被告的指控要么被驳回,要么被无罪释放。
Aubrey Daniel, Army Prosecutor: I finally decided I had to say something.
陆军检察官奥布里·丹尼尔:我最终决定必须说点什么。
I wanted to make the President aware of my feelings about the case, and the jurors, and the victims, and the rule of law.
我想让总统了解我对案件、陪审员、受害者和法治的感受。
'I truly regret having to have written this letter, and wish that no innocent person had died at My Lai on March 16th, 1968.
“我真的很遗憾不得不写这封信,并希望 1968 年 3 月 16 日没有无辜者在美莱村丧生。
But innocent people were killed under circumstances that will always remain abhorrent to my conscience.
但无辜者被杀的情况却始终令我的良心感到厌恶。
While in some respects, what took place at My Lai has to be considered a tragic day in the history of our nation, the greatest tragedy of all will be if political expediency dictates the compromise of such a fundamental moral principle as the inherent unlawfulness of the murder of innocent persons, making the actions and the courage of six honorable men who served their country so well, meaningless.'
虽然从某些方面来说,美莱村发生的事情必须被视为我们国家历史上的悲惨一天,但最大的悲剧将是,如果政治上的权宜之计迫使我们对谋杀无辜者固有的非法性这样的基本道德原则做出妥协,那么六位为国家做出如此出色贡献的光荣人士的行动和勇气将变得毫无意义。”
Michael Bilton, Writer: If you take the total number of people who died at My Lai, which was five-hundred and seven, and put that along side the two-million civilians who died, it doesn't seem very much.
迈克尔·比尔顿(Michael Bilton),作家:如果你把美莱村的死亡总人数(五百零七人)与死亡的两百万平民放在一起,你会发现这个数字并不多。
But it in terms of impact on America and on the rest of the world, about how they conducted that war, clearly it changed people's opinions towards the war.
但就对美国和世界其他地区的影响而言,就他们如何进行这场战争而言,它显然改变了人们对战争的看法。
It was too big a price to pay, that if you were going to have to win this war by this kind of conduct, then it wasn't a price worth paying.
这是一个太大的代价,如果你要通过这种行为来赢得这场战争,那么这个代价就不值得付出。
Jonathan Schell, Writer: People had been to saying to themselves, "Well, what are we doing to these people?
乔纳森·谢尔(Jonathan Schell),作家:人们一直在对自己说:“好吧,我们对这些人做了什么?
What are we doing to them?" And, then, with My Lai, people began to say, "What is it doing to us?"
我们对他们做什么?”然后,对于美莱,人们开始说:“它对我们做了什么?”
John Smail, Squad Leader: Oh, it hurts me thinking about the innocent people that got killed.
约翰·斯梅尔(John Smail),班长:哦,一想到那些无辜的人被杀,我就很伤心。
It hurts me now; it hurts me now more than it did then, 'cause then you're thinking about living.
现在我很痛;现在我比以前更痛苦,因为那时你正在考虑生活。
You get out and you're a civilian, you think about dying.
你出去了,你就是一个平民,你想到了死。
Pham Thi Thuan, My Lai Villager: It's been a while.
美莱村村民 Pham Thi Thuan:好久不见了。
Now I can sleep, but every once in a while, I dream again, about how my father died, how my sister died, how they died next to me.
现在我可以睡觉了,但每隔一段时间,我就会再次做梦,梦见我的父亲是怎么死的,我的妹妹是怎么死的,他们是怎么死在我身边的。
I saw it all.
我看到了这一切。
I remember all the time.
我一直记得。
Joe Grimes, Squad Leader: I can go back and remember all those sleepless nights that we had, everything that went on.
乔·格莱姆斯(Joe Grimes),班长:我可以回想起我们度过的所有不眠之夜,以及所发生的一切。
My Lai, all the people who were killed there.
我的赖,所有在那里被杀的人。
Every day I try to make it easy.
我每天都努力让事情变得简单。
I thought that by drinking that I could make it easy and make it go away.
我以为通过喝酒我可以让它变得轻松并让它消失。
I'd lay down at night, still the same thing whether I drank, whether I didn't drink.
晚上我会躺下,无论我喝酒还是不喝酒,情况都是一样的。
Still the same thing, it's the memories; they kept coming back, kept coming back.
还是那句话,是回忆;他们不断地回来,不断地回来。
Tran Nam, My Lai Villager: I will never forget.
我莱村村民陈南:我永远不会忘记。
When I'm reminded, I suddenly remember the pain, a chapter in the book opens.
当我想起的时候,我突然想起了痛苦,书里的一章打开了。
There is no way I will ever forget.
我永远不会忘记。
I will never forget.
我永远不会忘记。
Fred Widmer, Radio Operator: As far as living with the shame of My Lai, I have no shame.
Fred Widmer,无线电操作员:就生活在美莱村的耻辱而言,我并不感到羞耻。
I did what I was supposed to be doing.
我做了我应该做的事。
The shame rests with the politicians and the Military.
耻辱在于政治家和军队。
Not with me, the other members of Charlie Company, Lieutenant Calley, or Captain Medina.
不包括我、查理连的其他成员、卡利中尉或梅迪纳上尉。
The shame lays with them.
耻辱在于他们。
It's a national shame.
这是民族耻辱。
Slate: Hugh Thompson was finally recognized for his ethical conduct at My Lai in 1998 when he was awarded the Soldier's Medal, the military's highest non-combat honor.
Slate:1998 年,休·汤普森 (Hugh Thompson) 最终因其在美莱村的道德行为而受到认可,当时他被授予士兵勋章,这是军队的最高非战斗荣誉。
He died in 2006.
他于 2006 年去世。
Slate: On August 19, 2009, Lieutenant William Calley spoke publicly about My Lai for the first time in forty years.
Slate:2009 年 8 月 19 日,威廉·卡利中尉四十年来首次公开谈论美莱村。
Slate: "There is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse for what happened that day in My Lai," said Calley.
Slate:“每一天我都对美莱村那天发生的事情感到悔恨,”卡利说。
"I feel remorse for the Vietnamese who were killed, for their families, for the American soldiers involved and their families.
“我为那些被杀的越南人、他们的家人、参与其中的美国士兵和他们的家人感到悔恨。
I am very sorry."
我很抱歉。”
Following the My Lai massacre, during which between 347 and 504 civilians were killed, the story remained largely out of the public eye until the media published Haeberle's photographs in November 1969.
美莱村大屠杀造成 347 至 504 名平民死亡,此事件之后,这个故事基本上就淡出了公众的视线,直到 1969 年 11 月媒体刊登了 Haeberle 的照片。
A detailed timeline of the events at My Lai and their aftermath.
美莱村事件及其后果的详细时间表。
The story of the My Lai Massacre, its cover up, and the subsequent investigation involves hundreds of people.
美莱村大屠杀的故事、其掩盖以及随后的调查涉及数百人。
Nearly 100 songs were written about the My Lai Massacre, exposing the raw emotion Americans had about the Vietnam War.
近 100 首歌曲是关于美莱村大屠杀的,揭露了美国人对越南战争的原始情感。
Larry Colburn was a gunner in Hugh Thompson's helicopter on March 16, 1968 at My Lai, Vietnam.
1968 年 3 月 16 日,拉里·科尔伯恩 (Larry Colburn) 在越南美莱村担任休·汤普森 (Hugh Thompson) 直升机上的炮手。
Was the price of winning the war a price worth paying?
赢得战争的代价值得付出吗?
Almost a year before O'Brian's arrival in the same area, a platoon from the American Division had been responsible for the massacre at My Lai.
在奥布莱恩到达同一地区的近一年前,美国师的一个排对美莱村的大屠杀负有责任。
What drove a company of American soldiers to commit the worst atrocity in U.S. military history?
是什么驱使一连美国士兵犯下美国军事史上最严重的暴行?