Klansville U.S.A.
Narrator: : The rally was scheduled for the afternoon of August 14th 1966.
旁白::集会定于 1966 年 8 月 14 日下午举行。
For hours, the crowd kept growing outside Memorial Auditorium in Raleigh, North Carolina.
几个小时以来,北卡罗来纳州罗利纪念礼堂外的人群不断增多。
Hundreds of police surrounded the building, intent on maintaining order at what would be the state's largest political gathering of the year.
数百名警察包围了这座大楼,意图维持该州今年最大的政治集会的秩序。
The rally had been called by the United Klans of America, as a show of support for Klan leaders being investigated by congress and the FBI.
这次集会是由美国三K党联合组织召集的,以表达对正在接受国会和联邦调查局调查的三K党领导人的支持。
The state's head klansman, Grand Dragon Bob Jones, was facing a possible prison sentence.
该州党魁领袖巨龙鲍勃·琼斯可能面临监禁。
The future of the Ku Klux Klan itself was on the line.
三K党本身的未来就岌岌可危了。
David Cunningham, Author, Klansville, U.S.A.: : Jones's dream was really to build the Klan into something that had political legitimacy.
大卫·坎宁安 (David Cunningham),作家,美国三K党:琼斯的梦想实际上是将三K党打造成具有政治合法性的组织。
He also understood that both the Klan's goals, and to some degree its appeal really relied upon its militance as well.
他还明白,三K党的目标以及在某种程度上它的吸引力实际上也依赖于它的好战性。
Narrator: : As hecklers began taunting a group of black activists in the balcony, Jones ordered them to stop.
旁白::当质问者开始在阳台上嘲笑一群黑人活动人士时,琼斯命令他们停止。
"Quit playing with them niggers," he commanded.
“别再跟这些黑鬼玩了,”他命令道。
Bob Jones was the most successful Grand Dragon in the country.
鲍勃·琼斯是该国最成功的巨龙。
In just three years, he had grown the North Carolina Klan from a handful of friends to some 10,000 members -- more than the Klans of all other southern states combined.
在短短三年内,他将北卡罗来纳州的三K党从少数几个朋友发展到了大约 10,000 名成员,比所有其他南方州的三K党成员的总和还多。
In the process, Jones had helped give the most progressive state in the south a new nickname: "Klansville, USA."
在此过程中,琼斯帮助给这个南方最进步的州起了一个新绰号:“美国克兰斯维尔”。
Rob Christensen, Reporter: : There was really no politicians during the 1960s that were really voicing concerns of North Carolina's white working class and especially those people who were really concerned about racial integration.
记者 Rob Christensen:在 20 世纪 60 年代,确实没有政治家真正表达对北卡罗来纳州白人工人阶级,特别是那些真正关心种族融合的人们的担忧。
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker, FBI KKK: : So, who's going to speak for frustrated, poor white folks who see integration as a threat to their job, to their way of life?
迈克尔·弗里森(Michael Frierson),联邦调查局三K党电影制片人:那么,谁来为那些将融合视为对其工作和生活方式的威胁的沮丧、贫穷的白人说话呢?
The Klan becomes the organization that can be the spokesperson for people who perceive their way of life to be under threat.
三K党成为一个可以成为那些认为自己的生活方式受到威胁的人们的代言人的组织。
Bunny Sanders, Mayor, Roper, N.C.: : We had NAACP.
Bunny Sanders,北卡罗来纳州罗珀市市长::我们有全国有色人种协进会。
They had the Klan.
他们有三K党。
They had Klan.
他们有三K党。
Narrator: : The son of a railroad worker, Bob Jones grew up just outside Salisbury, 40 miles north of Charlotte.
旁白:鲍勃·琼斯 (Bob Jones) 是一名铁路工人的儿子,在夏洛特以北 40 英里的索尔兹伯里郊外长大。
The fifth of eight children, he had dropped out of high school in either the 10th or 11th grade -- no one knows for sure.
他是八个孩子中的第五个,在高中 10 年级或 11 年级时就辍学了——没有人确切知道。
He was discharged from the navy after refusing to salute a black officer.
他因拒绝向黑人军官敬礼而被海军开除。
"I'd salute that uniform all day long," Jones said, "but I won't salute no nigger."
“我会整天向那身制服致敬,”琼斯说,“但我不会向任何黑鬼致敬。”
For years, he bounced from job to job, awning salesman, bricklayer, lightning rod salesman.
多年来,他一直在换工作,遮阳篷推销员、瓦工、避雷针推销员。
He struggled to make a decent living.
他为过上体面的生活而奋斗。
Patsy Sims, Author: : Many people probably did refer to him, maybe in front of him, as white trash, and that may well also have been part of the bruising that led him to feel as strong racially as he did.
帕齐·西姆斯(Patsy Sims),作者::很多人可能确实在他面前称他为白人垃圾,而这也很可能是导致他在种族方面感到如此强烈的挫伤的一部分。
Gary Freeze, Historian: : What the age of segregation actually promoted was a group of people who essentially found a niche above blacks but below successful whites.
加里·弗里兹(Gary Freeze),历史学家::种族隔离时代实际上促进的是一群人,他们本质上在黑人之上但在成功的白人之下找到了自己的位置。
Bob Jones represented those North Carolinians.
鲍勃·琼斯代表了那些北卡罗来纳人。
Ned Cline, Reporter: : He would never admit being a racist.
内德·克莱恩(Ned Cline),记者::他永远不会承认自己是种族主义者。
He didn't object to Jews, he didn't object to black people as long as they stayed in their place and away from him and never tried to mingle together with white people.
他不反对犹太人,他不反对黑人,只要他们留在自己的地方,远离他,也从不试图与白人交往。
Narrator: : The Ku Klux Klan originated in the wake of the nation's greatest trauma -- the civil war.
旁白: 三K党起源于国家最大的创伤——内战。
In 1865, decommissioned confederate officers in Pulaski, Tennessee, formed a fraternal social club.
1865 年,田纳西州普拉斯基退役的南方邦联军官成立了兄弟社交俱乐部。
They called themselves the Ku Klux Klan, from the Greek word for circle, "kuklos."
他们称自己为三K党(Ku Klux Klan),源自希腊语,意为“圆”,“kuklos”。
Mark Potok, Southern Poverty Law Center: : It was essentially a club where they were going to pull pranks.
南方贫困法律中心的马克·波托克:这本质上是一个他们要搞恶作剧的俱乐部。
They started to dress up in very elaborate costumes and go out and try to terrorize freed slaves.
他们开始穿上非常精致的服装,出去试图恐吓被释放的奴隶。
They would pose as confederate officers come back from the dead.
他们会假扮成死而复生的同盟军官。
Patsy Sims, Author: : The story goes they first did it innocently, and then when they saw the reaction of the newly freed slaves who were petrified, the word got around that they were having this effect, and that's when that version of that version of the Klan became increasingly violent.
帕齐·西姆斯(Patsy Sims),作者::故事是这样的,他们一开始是无辜的,然后当他们看到新获释的奴隶被吓呆了的反应时,他们就产生了这种效果,就在那时,那个版本的三K党变得越来越暴力。
Mark Potok, Southern Poverty Law Center: : The reality is, is that the Klan of Reconstruction spent its time murdering people, throwing people off bridges, hanging them from trees.
马克·波托克(Mark Potok),南方贫困法律中心: 现实是,重建三K党花了不少时间杀人,把人从桥上扔下来,把他们吊在树上。
Narrator: : When the federal government clamped down in 1871, the Klan dissolved and lay dormant for decades.
旁白: 1871 年联邦政府镇压后,三K党解散并休眠了数十年。
Then in 1915, the image of the Ku Klux Klan was seared into the nation's consciousness by the first true blockbuster in American cinema: DW Griffith's three-hour epic, "The Birth of a Nation."
1915 年,美国电影中第一部真正的大片:DW 格里菲斯 (DW Griffith) 的三小时史诗片《一个国家的诞生》(The Birth of a Nation),三K党的形象深深地烙印在了国家的意识中。
Based on a bestselling novel, the movie portrayed Klan violence as justifiable and necessary to restore order to a South in chaos while celebrating Klan efforts to keep blacks from exercising their newly granted right to vote.
这部电影改编自畅销小说,将三K党的暴力描绘成在混乱中恢复南方秩序的合理且必要的手段,同时庆祝三K党阻止黑人行使其新授予的投票权的努力。
Mark Potok, Southern Poverty Law Center: : This film so romanticized the Klan that the Klan pictured itself and described itself as heroically standing up for the oppressed white people, the dispossessed white people of the South.
马克·波托克(Mark Potok),南方贫困法律中心:这部电影将三K党描绘得如此浪漫,以至于三K党将自己描绘成英勇地捍卫受压迫的白人、南方被剥夺财产的白人。
Narrator: : " The Birth of a Nation " sparked a revival of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s.
旁白::《一个国家的诞生》引发了20世纪20年代三K党的复兴。
The Klan's ideology of white supremacy and what they called "100% Americanism" resonated across the country.
三K党的白人至上意识形态和他们所谓的“100%美国主义”在全国引起共鸣。
Mark Potok, Southern Poverty Law Center: : The Klan of the 1920s was not a rural Klan, which the Klan of Reconstruction had primarily been.
南方贫困法律中心的马克·波托克 (Mark Potok)::1920 年代的三K党并不是农村三K党,而重建时期的三K党主要是农村三K党。
The Klan of the 1920s was very big in surprising places, places like Denver, like Portland, Detroit, which had huge waves of immigration both of Catholics from Europe and of African Americans coming from the South.
20 年代的三K党在一些令人惊讶的地方非常强大,比如丹佛、波特兰、底特律,这些地方有来自欧洲的天主教徒和来自南方的非裔美国人的大量移民。
Narrator: : In 1925, 50,000 klansmen and women gathered in Washington in a vivid display of their numbers.
旁白: 1925 年,50,000 名三K党男女聚集在华盛顿,生动地展示了他们的人数。
Four million Americans claimed Klan membership.
四百万美国人声称自己是三K党成员。
Patsy Sims, Author: : That particular klan also became very, very powerful politically.
帕齐·西姆斯 (Patsy Sims),作者: :那个特定的三K党在政治上也变得非常非常强大。
They elected at least 10 governors, and there were all sorts of public officials who were elected by power of the Klan.
他们选举了至少10名州长,还有各种由三K党权力选举产生的公职人员。
David Cunningham, Author, Klansville, U.S.A.: : The Klan has a great rise in terms of membership through the first half of the 1920s, and it has an equally spectacular fall.
David Cunningham,作者,美国三K党: 20 世纪 20 年代上半叶,三K党的成员数量大幅增加,但也经历了同样惊人的衰落。
There were a number of exposés of what the Klan was doing in terms of its violent underside.
有许多关于三K党的暴力行为的揭露。
When you throw scandals in that really embarrass the leaders, that kind of publicity really eroded its credibility.
当你抛出丑闻确实让领导人难堪时,这种宣传确实会削弱其可信度。
Narrator: : By the 1930s, bad press and power struggles had ripped apart the once powerful Klan.
旁白::到了 20 世纪 30 年代,负面新闻和权力斗争已经分裂了曾经强大的三K党。
But not for long.
但不会持续太久。
When the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1954 that public schools must integrate the Klan rose once again.
1954年,美国最高法院裁定公立学校必须再次融合三K党。
Mark Potok, Southern Poverty Law Center: : Brown v.
马克·波托克 (Mark Potok),南方贫困法律中心::布朗诉。
Board of Education was the opening shot in the civil rights era and although it didn't happen right away, it really presaged huge, huge changes in the South.
教育委员会是民权时代的开枪,虽然它没有立即发生,但它确实预示着南方巨大的变化。
Narrator: : In 1960, sit-ins at lunch counters in Greensboro, North Carolina, sparked similar demonstrations across the South.
旁白:1960 年,北卡罗来纳州格林斯博罗午餐柜台的静坐在整个南方引发了类似的示威活动。
Officials in other states reacted defiantly as the civil rights movement gained momentum.
随着民权运动势头强劲,其他州的官员做出了挑衅性的反应。
George Wallace, Segregationist (Archival): : …and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever
乔治华莱士,种族隔离主义者(档案):……我说现在种族隔离,明天种族隔离,永远种族隔离
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : You have governors like George Wallace openly advocating segregation, openly taking the position that the Klan might have taken in that state.
迈克尔·弗里森(Michael Frierson),电影制片人::像乔治·华莱士这样的州长公开主张种族隔离,公开采取三K党在该州可能采取的立场。
In North Carolina, we didn't have that.
在北卡罗来纳州,我们没有这样的条件。
Narrator: : Bob Jones feared that North Carolina's leaders would not resist the push for integration.
旁白:鲍勃·琼斯担心北卡罗来纳州的领导人不会抵制推动一体化的努力。
In the summer of 1963, he petitioned the United Klans of America for a charter to organize in his home state.
1963 年夏天,他请求美国三K党联合组织在他的家乡组织起来。
Bob Jones (archival): : Everybody in this country is organized except the white protestant gentile.
鲍勃·琼斯(档案)::这个国家的每个人都是有组织的,除了白人新教外邦人。
Your niggers have your NAACP and CORE.
你们的黑鬼有你们的全国有色人种协进会和核心。
You got B'nai B'rith for your Jewish people.
你们为你们的犹太人民带来了 B'nai B'rith。
Your Knights of Columbus which is a secret, fraternal order, but the white protestant gentile, the only hope, the only salvation that they have left in the United States today is the United Klans of America, Incorporated.
你们的哥伦布骑士团是一个秘密的、兄弟般的组织,但对于白人新教外邦人来说,他们今天留在美国的唯一希望、唯一救赎就是美国三K党联合组织。
We've saved the South twice, or the Klan has, and it looks like we're going to just have to do it again.
我们已经拯救了南方两次,或者说三K党已经拯救过两次,看来我们只能再做一次了。
Bunny Sanders, Mayor, Roper, N.C.: : It was a time when poor white people found themselves in a real strange space because they saw black people progressing and they saw themselves not being paid any attention to.
邦尼·桑德斯 (Bunny Sanders),北卡罗来纳州罗珀市市长:当时,贫穷的白人发现自己处于一个真正奇怪的空间,因为他们看到黑人在进步,但他们看到自己没有受到任何关注。
And wealthier white people looked down on them.
富裕的白人看不起他们。
I mean, they really did.
我的意思是,他们确实做到了。
It was all about not being at the bottom of the barrel.
这一切都是为了不要处于桶底。
Narrator: : On August 17th, Jones was chosen to be their first grand dragon.
旁白::8月17日,琼斯被选为他们的第一条巨龙。
Patsy Sims, Author: : That was the biggest thing in his life.
Patsy Sims,作者::这是他一生中最重要的事情。
It's probably the biggest thing that ever happened to him.
这可能是他经历过的最重大的事情了。
I mean this was like his birthday.
我的意思是这就像他的生日。
David Cunningham, Author, Klansville, U.S.A.: : Bob Jones's father was a Klan member in the 1920s.
David Cunningham,作者,美国三K党:鲍勃·琼斯的父亲是 20 年代的三K党成员。
He would say that his mother proudly marched in a Klan parade when she was seven months pregnant with Bob.
他会说,当他的母亲怀着鲍勃七个月时,她自豪地参加了三K党游行。
So he sort of saw it as a birthright in some ways, and something that was kind of in his blood and in his family.
所以他在某种程度上将其视为与生俱来的权利,并且是他的血液和家庭中的某种东西。
Narrator: : Just 11 days later, the march on Washington displayed the growing strength of the civil rights movement.
旁白:仅仅11天后,华盛顿的游行就显示了民权运动日益强大的力量。
Rev.
牧师。
Martin Luther King, Jr. (archival): : …We will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: "Free at last!
小马丁·路德·金(档案):……我们将能够加速这一天的到来,届时所有上帝的孩子,黑人和白人,犹太人和外邦人,新教徒和天主教徒,将能够携起手来,唱着古老的黑人灵歌中的歌词:“终于自由了!
Free at last!
终于自由了!
Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"
感谢全能的上帝,我们终于自由了!”
Narrator: : "We have the same right as the negro to demonstrate," Jones declared.
旁白:“我们和黑人一样有示威的权利,”琼斯宣称。
On August 31, he held a rally in a cornfield near his hometown, hoping to attract a few hundred people.
8月31日,他在家乡附近的玉米地里举行集会,希望能吸引几百人参加。
Two thousand showed up.
两千人出现了。
Patsy Sims, Author: : These people were so afraid that they were going to have even less than what they already had, because the black man was going to take their rights, and civil rights workers were starting to come down south.
帕齐·西姆斯(Patsy Sims),作者::这些人非常害怕,他们所拥有的甚至比他们已经拥有的还要少,因为黑人将夺取他们的权利,而民权工作者开始南下。
And so some of these people felt they were being invaded.
因此,其中一些人感到自己受到了入侵。
Emotions ran high.
情绪高涨。
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : Bob Jones realized, "We can take this show on the road.
迈克尔·弗里森 (Michael Frierson),电影制片人:鲍勃·琼斯 (Bob Jones) 意识到,“我们可以在路上拍摄这部剧。
We can grow this business that we've got.
我们可以发展我们现有的业务。
We can travel across the state and present this message all over."
我们可以穿越全州,向各地传达这一信息。”
Narrator: : That fall, Jones threw himself into a massive recruiting campaign.
旁白:那年秋天,琼斯全身心投入到一场大规模的招募活动中。
Crisscrossing the state in his old Plymouth, he established local chapters, called klaverns, in every corner of North Carolina, signing up hundreds of new members.
他在他的老普利茅斯穿梭于整个州,在北卡罗来纳州的每个角落建立了当地的分会,称为克拉文,并招募了数百名新会员。
One of the recruits was a house painter and ordained Baptist minister named George Dorsett.
其中一名新兵是一位房屋油漆工,并被任命为浸信会牧师,名叫乔治·多塞特。
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : Dorsett's dad was a Klansman.
迈克尔·弗里森(Michael Frierson),电影制片人::多塞特的父亲是一名三K党成员。
When he was seven years old, his father burned a cross in Dorsett's back yard.
当他七岁时,他的父亲在多塞特的后院烧了一个十字架。
I mean, I think he wanted to bring his kids into the fold, and he did a good job with Dorsett.
我的意思是,我认为他想把他的孩子也纳入其中,而且他在帝盛方面做得很好。
Narrator: : Dorsett would soon become the klan's official chaplain, or imperial klud, preaching at nearly every rally in the state.
旁白::多塞特很快就成为三K党的官方牧师,或者说帝国团伙,几乎在该州的每个集会上讲道。
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : George Dorsett is deeply religious and saw becoming a preacher as a way to better himself.
迈克尔·弗里森(Michael Frierson),电影制片人:乔治·多塞特(George Dorsett)笃信宗教,认为成为一名传教士是改善自己的一种方式。
He started off with benches and a tent.
他从长凳和帐篷开始。
And then if you're good at it, you want to move up; you want to have a bigger congregation, you want to have a bigger church.
如果你擅长,你就会想晋升;如果你擅长,你就会想晋升。你想要有一个更大的会众,你想要有一个更大的教会。
He becomes a preacher.
他成为一名传教士。
He becomes a preacher in the klan.
他成为三K党的传教士。
You know, George is always ambitious, I think.
我认为,你知道,乔治总是雄心勃勃。
Narrator: : Dorsett's powerful sermons complemented Jones's organizational skills.
旁白::多赛特强有力的布道补充了琼斯的组织能力。
They were a perfect duo, at least in the beginning.
他们是完美的搭档,至少在一开始是这样。
Narrator: : One of the most popular television shows of 1963 was set in North Carolina, in the fictional town of Mayberry.
旁白: : 1963 年最受欢迎的电视节目之一以北卡罗来纳州虚构的梅伯里镇为背景。
Andy Griffith, The Andy Griffith Show (archival): : Yeah, together with what me and Opie got we can have a fine fish fry!
安迪·格里菲斯(Andy Griffith),《安迪·格里菲斯秀》(档案)::是的,加上我和奥佩得到的东西,我们可以吃到美味的鱼苗!
Gary Freeze, Historian: : Mayberry itself was a metaphor of what North Carolina had thought of itself for an entire generation.
加里·弗里兹(Gary Freeze),历史学家:梅伯里本身就是北卡罗来纳州整整一代人对自己的看法的隐喻。
Gary Freeze, Historian: : North Carolina always saw itself as a network of small communities ruled by the Andy Taylors of the world…
加里·弗里兹(Gary Freeze),历史学家::北卡罗来纳州始终将自己视为由世界安迪·泰勒统治的小社区网络......
Andy Griffith, The Andy Griffith Show (archival): : What in the world are you all trying to do?
安迪·格里菲斯,《安迪·格里菲斯秀》(档案)::你们到底想做什么?
Gary Freeze, Historian: : …small-town local notables who behaved more like the Justice of the Peace than the sheriff.
加里·弗里兹(Gary Freeze),历史学家:……小镇当地的名人,他们的行为更像是治安法官,而不是警长。
There's always a peaceful resolution to what could be volatile conflict.
对于可能发生的不稳定冲突,总有和平的解决办法。
Don Knotts, The Andy Griffith Show (archival): : Let's move along.
唐·诺茨(Don Knotts),《安迪·格里菲斯秀》(档案)::让我们继续前进。
You're congregatin' unlawfully!
你们这是非法聚集!
Gary Freeze, Historian: : Mayberry is a town that has no racial issues.
加里·弗里兹(Gary Freeze),历史学家::梅伯里是一个不存在种族问题的城镇。
Black people walk around and are part of the community, but they never speak up and disrupt.
黑人四处走动,是社区的一部分,但他们从不发声和扰乱。
That's what North Carolinians saw as the kind of race relations they wanted.
这就是北卡罗来纳人所认为的他们想要的种族关系。
You're sorted and you're identified, but don't rattle that system.
你被分类并被识别,但不要扰乱那个系统。
Narrator: : By the 1960s, however, the world of Mayberry was slipping away.
旁白: 然而,到了 20 世纪 60 年代,Mayberry 的世界正在逐渐消失。
North Carolina had become the shining light of what was called "the new South" -- a region that was growing, and moving out of the shadow of its tense racial past.
北卡罗来纳州已经成为所谓的“新南方”的闪亮之光——这个地区正在成长,并正在摆脱过去紧张的种族阴影。
State leaders navigated a middle path through the changing racial landscape.
国家领导人在不断变化的种族格局中走了一条中间道路。
They called it "The North Carolina Way."
他们称之为“北卡罗来纳之路”。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : This was a sense that North Carolina is a place that, through the goodwill of its people, is going to be willing to gradually change and transform its system of race relations.
社会学家戴维·坎宁安(David Cunningham):这是一种感觉,北卡罗来纳州是一个通过其人民的善意,愿意逐步改变和转变其种族关系体系的地方。
Not that there would be a law passed and the change would have to happen tomorrow.
并不是说将会通过一项法律并且明天就必须进行改变。
Gary Freeze, Historian: : North Carolina's moderate self-image in terms of race relations is based upon a long, sustained effort in the 20th century to be more progressive than the rest of the South, not to change the basic dynamics of race relations, but to pursue them in a moderate form that isn't particularly confrontational.
历史学家加里·弗里兹(Gary Freeze):北卡罗来纳州在种族关系方面的温和自我形象是基于在 20 世纪长期、持续的努力,比南方其他地区更加进步,不是为了改变种族关系的基本动态,而是以一种温和的方式而不是特别对抗性的方式追求它们。
Narrator: : Gradual change wasn't acceptable to staunch segregationists or civil rights activists, and as the 1960's progressed, blacks intensified their demands for equality.
旁白::渐进式的变革对于坚定的种族隔离主义者或民权活动人士来说是不可接受的,随着 1960 年代的进展,黑人更加强烈地要求平等。
Bunny Sanders, Mayor, Roper, N.C.: : I remember late at night sometimes at my house, we would be awakened with my father cursing white people out.
邦尼·桑德斯 (Bunny Sanders),北卡罗来纳州罗珀市市长::我记得有时在我家深夜,我们会被我父亲咒骂白人的声音吵醒。
But that's what he did in his sleep.
但这就是他在睡梦中所做的。
He had so much bottled up into him that he had gone through and taken.
他内心隐藏了太多东西,以至于他已经经历并接受了。
But getting into the 60s, around '64, the civil rights movement is now beginning to really rev up.
但进入 60 年代,即 64 年前后,民权运动现在开始真正加速发展。
You're seeing more political power.
你会看到更多的政治权力。
You're seeing blacks pursuing public office.
你会看到黑人寻求公职。
White people are having to say, "They're going to run for office?
白人不得不说:“他们要竞选公职吗?
We're going to have a black councilman?" You know, "That possibility exists?"
我们将有一名黑人议员?”你知道,“这种可能性存在吗?”
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : So in North Carolina, you knew, if you were a white citizen who wanted to maintain segregation, you couldn't count on your political leadership.
社会学家戴维·坎宁安(David Cunningham):所以在北卡罗来纳州,你知道,如果你是一名想要维持种族隔离的白人公民,你就不能指望你的政治领导力。
And so, the Klan steps in and says, "We are the only organization that will support white people in North Carolina." What Bob Jones would be talking about are these people who lived a very traditional way of life in predominantly rural areas that were being left out of this whole discourse about the New South.
因此,三K党介入并表示:“我们是唯一支持北卡罗来纳州白人的组织。”鲍勃·琼斯要谈论的是这些在农村地区过着非常传统生活方式的人,他们被排除在有关新南方的整个讨论之外。
Narrator: : In the summer of 1964, Bob Jones held scores of rallies, open to whites only, across North Carolina.
旁白:1964 年夏天,鲍勃·琼斯在北卡罗来纳州举办了数十场只对白人开放的集会。
People of all ages gathered in cow pastures and corn fields.
各个年龄段的人们聚集在牛牧场和玉米地里。
Patsy Sims, Author: : For many of these people, it was a family gathering, a source of entertainment, a night out.
帕齐·西姆斯 (Patsy Sims),作者:对于其中许多人来说,这是一次家庭聚会、一种娱乐来源、一个夜晚外出。
There would be music playing.
会有音乐播放。
David Cecelski, Historian: : They'd sell hotdogs, they would raffle off ponies, they'd cook a pig.
大卫·塞塞尔斯基(David Cecelski),历史学家::他们会卖热狗,他们会抽奖小马,他们会煮一头猪。
Most rallies might only have 20 Klansmen, but they could have hundreds or thousands of people that were there watching and supporting.
大多数集会可能只有 20 名三K党成员,但可能有成百上千的人在现场观看和支持。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : Bob Jones was really a master at framing the Klan as being a lot of things to a lot of people.
社会学家大卫·坎宁安 (David Cunningham):鲍勃·琼斯 (Bob Jones) 确实是一位大师,他将三K党描述为对很多人来说有很多意义。
So for some people, these would be events like county fairs, men who might join the Klan would come out with their wives, their kids, their friends, and this was seen as a social event as well as a political event and spectacle.
因此,对于某些人来说,这些活动就像县集市,可能加入三K党的男人会带着他们的妻子、孩子、朋友一起出来,这被视为一场社会活动,也是一场政治事件和奇观。
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : If you think about, you're living in a small town in rural North Carolina, and people come up and post fliers, there's going to be a Klan rally down the road here on Friday night.
迈克尔·弗里森(Michael Frierson),电影制片人:如果你想一下,你住在北卡罗来纳州乡村的一个小镇,人们会过来张贴传单,周五晚上这里的路上将会有一场三K党集会。
There's going to be a band playing, there's going to be preaching, we're going to rail against Lyndon Johnson, we're going to burn a 60 foot cross.
将会有乐队演奏,将会有布道,我们将会抱怨林登·约翰逊,我们将会焚烧一个 60 英尺的十字架。
I mean, that's an attraction to people in a small town.
我的意思是,这对小镇上的人们来说很有吸引力。
There's not that much going on, right?
没有那么多事情发生,对吧?
Narrator: : As darkness fell, the tone of the rallies darkened as well.
旁白::随着夜幕降临,集会的气氛也变得暗淡起来。
The band gave way to speakers.
乐队让位于扬声器。
Sybil Jones -- Bob Jones's wife and a leader in the Klan's Ladies Auxiliary -- cautioned the crowd against inaction.
鲍勃·琼斯的妻子、三K党妇女辅助队的领导人西比尔·琼斯警告人群不要无所作为。
Sybil Jones (archival audio): : We need good women, that's ready, willing and able to stand up not only for their children, but all the children in America.
西比尔·琼斯(档案音频):我们需要优秀的女性,她们做好准备、愿意并且能够不仅为她们的孩子,而且为美国所有的孩子挺身而出。
They told me my daughter had to sit in a classroom surrounded by negroes.
他们告诉我,我女儿必须坐在被黑人包围的教室里。
But let me tell you, my child is not sitting surrounded by negroes, and she will not be the next time you ask.
但让我告诉你,我的孩子并没有坐在黑人周围,下次你问起时她也不会是这样。
Until they put this hundred pounds six feet under, you can better believe I'll be up fighting for my child.
在他们把这一百磅压到六英尺以下之前,你可以更好地相信我会为我的孩子而战。
I'll never give up.
我永远不会放弃。
How about you?
你呢?
Thank you.
谢谢。
Narrator: : Klan chaplain George Dorsett took the microphone next.
旁白::接下来,三K党牧师乔治·多塞特拿起麦克风。
George Dorsett (archival): : Let me tell you from the platform tonight that big daddy-o and his cheap sinful integration plan will never overcome!
乔治·多塞特(档案)::让我今晚在讲台上告诉你们,大老爹和他廉价罪恶的整合计划永远不会被克服!
Hear me tonight!
今晚听我说!
Hear me!
听我说!
The prophets in the Bible have called integration, transgression, abomination, evil!
圣经中的先知们称融合、过犯、可憎、邪恶!
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : He knew how to light people up and push the right buttons.
迈克尔·弗里森(Michael Frierson),电影制片人::他知道如何照亮人们并按下正确的按钮。
These are religious people to begin with.
这些人本来就是宗教人士。
They already know desegregation's bad.
他们已经知道废除种族隔离是不好的。
It's a threat.
这是一个威胁。
And here's somebody who's justifying it in the Bible?
有人在圣经中证明了这一点?
That's a compelling message for people.
这对人们来说是一个引人注目的信息。
Gary Freeze, Historian: : Klan rallies in the 60s look just like tent revivals of the 1930s.
加里·弗里兹 (Gary Freeze),历史学家:: 60 年代的三K党集会看起来就像 1930 年代的帐篷复兴。
Just as the old tent revivalist had helped you gird up your loins against the devil, the Klan just reinvented the devil.
正如老帐篷复兴者帮助你束紧腰来对抗魔鬼一样,三K党也重新塑造了魔鬼。
Narrator: : Dorsett's fire and brimstone style electrified the crowd.
旁白::帝盛的火与硫磺风格让观众兴奋不已。
Donations poured in.
捐款纷至沓来。
George Dorsett (archival): : There might be a businessman who's prosperous, and you can afford to give a thousand, you can afford to pay one of the men's salaries to do nothing but set up units throughout North Carolina.
乔治·多塞特(档案)::可能有一位生意兴隆的商人,你可以出一千块钱,你可以支付其中一个人的工资,除了在北卡罗来纳州各地建立单位之外什么都不做。
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : It's expressing many of the same ideas that they have.
电影制片人迈克尔·弗里森 (Michael Frierson)::它表达了许多与他们相同的想法。
It may not be acceptable in their community to be so overtly racist, but to hear Dorsett being overtly racist, he's a stand in for them.
在他们的社区中,如此公然的种族主义可能是不可接受的,但听到多塞特公然的种族主义,他就是他们的替身。
He's saying things they think, but they can't say.
他说的是他们心里想的事,但他们却不能说。
And he's going to fire people up to give money and build the group.
他将激励人们捐钱并建立这个团队。
George Dorsett (archival): : Is there others?
乔治·多塞特(档案)::还有其他人吗?
Whatever you have, $10, $5.
不管你有什么,10美元,5美元。
Walk down with it, will you do that?
带着它走下去,你会这么做吗?
We're gonna go count this money.
我们要去数这笔钱。
Narrator: : A popular hymn, "the old rugged cross," announced each rally's dramatic conclusion: the lighting of a wooden cross, wrapped in burlap and soaked with gasoline.
旁白:一首流行的赞美诗“古老而崎岖的十字架”宣布了每次集会的戏剧性结局:点燃一个用粗麻布包裹并浸有汽油的木制十字架。
Bathed in its warm glow, members and supporters shared a sense of holy mission.
沐浴在温暖的光芒中,会员和支持者们共同感受到神圣的使命感。
Ned Cline, Reporter: : Jones was offering a chance to be above somebody else, to be better than somebody else.
内德·克莱恩(Ned Cline),记者::琼斯提供了一个超越其他人、比其他人更好的机会。
Nobody else was taking this approach to talking to people.
没有其他人采用这种方法与人交谈。
They were people just like he was who'd grown up poor, low skills, low pay, little education and not much hope of ever bettering themselves.
他们和他一样,都是在贫困中长大的,技能低下,工资低,受教育程度低,而且没有太大希望改善自己。
And he convinced them that if they became Klan members and stuck together, that they could better themselves and keep other people from getting in their way.
他让他们相信,如果他们成为三K党成员并团结在一起,他们就能改善自己并防止其他人妨碍他们。
Narrator: : For some, a rally was transformative, inspiring them to apply for klan membership.
旁白::对于一些人来说,集会具有变革性,激励他们申请加入三K党。
If approved by a klavern's leaders, they were called to a secret initiation ceremony.
如果得到克拉文领导人的批准,他们就会被召集去参加一个秘密的入会仪式。
C.P.
C.P.
Ellis (archival interview): : I will never forget the night that I was initiated into the Klan.
埃利斯(档案采访)::我永远不会忘记我加入三K党的那个晚上。
Klan Leader (archival audio): : Are you a native born, white, gentile, American citizen?
三K党领袖(档案音频)::您是土生土长的白人、外邦人美国公民吗?
C.P.
C.P.
Ellis (archival interview): : That was one of the most exciting and thrilling moments of my life.
埃利斯(档案采访)::那是我一生中最激动人心的时刻之一。
I had suffered like hell trying to survive financially and to have some kind of status or standing in the community, and I never could get it.
为了在经济上生存并在社区中拥有某种地位或地位,我经历了极大的痛苦,但我永远无法得到它。
But here I was before a whole group of people, and they told me to kneel before the fiery cross.
但在这里,我面对着一大群人,他们让我跪在火热的十字架前。
I'll never forget that man saying, "I now bestow upon you the title of Klansman.
我永远不会忘记那个人说的:“我现在授予你三K党成员的称号。
You'll never be alone anymore.
你永远不会再孤单了。
And I was absolutely in tears, I was so happy.
我当时真的热泪盈眶,我太高兴了。
I was certainly under the impression then that the Klan would be better than what I had.
当时我确实有这样的印象:三K党会比我所拥有的更好。
And when I first went into it, it was better than what I had.
当我第一次进入它时,它比我拥有的要好。
Narrator: : By the summer of 1965, two years into his term as grand dragon, Bob Jones had seen his North Carolina Klan grow to nearly 10,000 dues-paying members.
旁白: 到 1965 年夏天,鲍勃·琼斯担任巨龙两年后,他的北卡罗来纳州三K党已发展到拥有近 10,000 名缴纳会费的成员。
He dreamed of turning the group into a powerful voting block.
他梦想将这个团体变成一个强大的投票团体。
"I am not advocating violence in any form," he said.
“我不提倡任何形式的暴力,”他说。
"I am asking you as white men to organize now so that no politician can be elected to any office without our support."
“我要求你们作为白人现在就组织起来,这样没有我们的支持,任何政客都不能当选任何职位。”
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : Jones sees the Klan as a group that can be an electoral force, and in a lot of ways that harked back to his romanticized view of what the Klan did in the 1920s.
社会学家大卫·坎宁安 (David Cunningham):琼斯认为三K党是一个可以成为选举力量的团体,并且在很多方面都让人回想起他对三K党在 1920 年代所做的事情的浪漫化看法。
This is a group that could represent what he saw as real white people in North Carolina.
这个群体可以代表他所认为的北卡罗来纳州真正的白人。
Patsy Sims, Author: : The rank and file looked up to him.
帕齐·西姆斯 (Patsy Sims),作者::普通民众都很尊敬他。
He was a hero to them.
他是他们的英雄。
Here all his life he had just been this little cog in the wheel, and he was Grand Dragon.
他一生都只是车轮上的这个小齿轮,他是巨龙。
He was a big man.
他是个大人物。
Narrator: : Jones used street walks -- daytime marches down main streets of North Carolina towns -- to show that his klan had nothing to hide.
旁白:琼斯利用街头漫步——白天在北卡罗来纳州城镇的主要街道上游行——来表明他的三K党没有什么可隐瞒的。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : Their overt goal with these street walks is to really show that they have this human side, but of course, marching down a sidewalk where people had to move aside -- this was something that deeply resonated with the racial order in the South -- who could claim public space?
社会学家大卫·坎宁安 (David Cunningham):他们在街头行走的公开目标是真正表明他们具有人性的一面,但是当然,沿着人们必须让道的人行道行进——这与南方的种族秩序产生了深刻的共鸣——谁能拥有公共空间?
Gary Freeze, Historian: : Respectable people didn't join the Klan or say openly they condoned it, but at the same time, so long as the Klan behaved politely, you don't have the squashing of it.
加里·弗里兹(Gary Freeze),历史学家::受人尊敬的人没有加入三K党,也没有公开表示他们纵容三K党,但与此同时,只要三K党表现得有礼貌,你就不会镇压它。
Price Brown Jr., Police Officer: : Some of the people thought that the police would not do anything, that we let them march.
小普莱斯·布朗(Price Brown Jr.),警官::有些人认为警察不会采取任何行动,我们让他们游行。
And they didn't understand that they applied for a permit that's, if it's approved, they get it, they can march, regardless of what their organization stands for.
他们不明白他们申请了许可证,如果获得批准,他们就得到了,他们可以游行,无论他们的组织代表什么。
Narrator: : Most street walks ended peacefully.
旁白::大多数街头漫步都平静地结束。
But by the summer of 1965, blacks were increasingly unwilling to stand by as klansmen paraded in public.
但到了 1965 年夏天,当三K党成员公开游行时,黑人越来越不愿意袖手旁观。
On august 21, a street walk in Jones's hometown of Salisbury threatened to turn violent as marchers approached a black neighborhood.
8 月 21 日,琼斯家乡索尔兹伯里的街头游行有可能演变成暴力事件,因为游行者接近了一个黑人社区。
Price Brown Jr., Police Officer: : The talk was that "We are ready." That's what some of the blacks were saying on the Lee Street side that, "We are not scared.
小普莱斯·布朗(Price Brown Jr.),警官::谈话内容是“我们准备好了”。这就是李街一侧的一些黑人所说的:“我们并不害怕。
We are ready." It's hundreds of people.
我们准备好了。”有数百人。
It looked like a thousand to me.
对我来说,这看起来像是一千。
I don't think we had more than, say, 30 officers there, if that many.
我认为我们那里的警官数量不会超过 30 名(如果有那么多的话)。
And my concern was, I just hope they don't overpower us to get -- to get to them.
我担心的是,我只是希望他们不会压倒我们去接近他们。
And that's when we were trying just to keep them, the two, separated till they got through.
就在那时,我们试图将他们两个分开,直到他们通过。
And then all of a sudden you get thunder and lightning, a big black cloud roll in, and it's raining like mad.
然后突然间雷电交加,一大片乌云滚滚而来,倾盆大雨倾盆而下。
I don't think we even had a forecast for rain for that day.
我想我们甚至没有预报那天会下雨。
You couldn't see 50 foot in front of you, it was raining so hard.
你看不到前方50英尺的地方,雨下得很大。
And then everybody dispersed.
然后大家就散了。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : In North Carolina, violence, intimidation and terrorism didn't take as pronounced a form as it did in places like Mississippi and Alabama and Georgia.
社会学家戴维·坎宁安 (David Cunningham):在北卡罗来纳州,暴力、恐吓和恐怖主义的形式并不像密西西比州、阿拉巴马州和佐治亚州那样明显。
So it was relatively easy for politicians of the period to say, "Well, the Klan is certainly militantly supporting their position, but they're not engaged in sort of the deadly violence as we would see in other places during that time."
因此,那个时期的政治家相对容易说:“好吧,三K党肯定积极支持他们的立场,但他们并没有像我们在那段时间在其他地方看到的那样,参与致命的暴力活动。”
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : The Klan leadership in North Carolina, they knew how to maintain the party line.
迈克尔·弗里森(Michael Frierson),电影制片人::北卡罗来纳州的三K党领导层,他们知道如何维护党派路线。
"We're not a violent organization.
“我们不是一个暴力组织。
We are a fraternal organization with a right to free speech like anybody else." On the other hand, you have this faction within it that you can keep at arm's length, maintain your sort of respectability and at the same time have folks that you can wink, wink, nod, nod, go out and intimidate people.
我们是一个兄弟组织,像其他人一样拥有言论自由的权利。”另一方面,你内部有这样一个派系,你可以与它保持一定的距离,保持你的尊严,同时也有一些你可以眨眼、点头、点头、出去恐吓别人的人。
Narrator: : The North Carolina Klan's favorite form of intimidation was cross burning -- in neighborhoods, in front of public buildings, even on the lawn of the governor's mansion.
旁白:北卡罗来纳州三K党最喜欢的恐吓形式是焚烧十字架——在社区、公共建筑前,甚至在州长官邸的草坪上。
Jones and his fellow klansmen didn't see much risk in such actions.
琼斯和他的党员并没有认为这种行为有太大风险。
Even some FBI agents believed that cross burnings didn't hurt anyone.
甚至一些联邦调查局特工也认为焚烧十字架不会伤害任何人。
Plans for what klansmen considered to be real violence were subject to Jones's approval, giving him a chance to veto actions that might go too far.
三K党成员认为真正的暴力计划必须得到琼斯的批准,这使他有机会否决可能走得太远的行动。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : Jones had a lot to lose here.
社会学家大卫·坎宁安 (David Cunningham)::琼斯在这里失去了很多。
What violence represented for him, was something that could threaten that way of life and that livelihood.
对他来说,暴力代表的是可能威胁到那种生活方式和生计的东西。
Narrator: : The former lightning rod salesman didn't want to risk what the klan had brought him: a Cadillac, status, a new life.
旁白:这位前避雷针推销员不想拿三K党给他带来的东西冒险:一辆凯迪拉克、地位、新生活。
Jones claimed that his klan was non-violent, but he had built his empire on hate-filled rhetoric, promising militant defense of white supremacy.
琼斯声称他的三K党是非暴力的,但他是在充满仇恨的言论上建立了自己的帝国,承诺激进地捍卫白人至上。
It was a delicate balancing act.
这是一个微妙的平衡行为。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : What Jones was brilliant at, that I don't think any other Grand Dragons or state leaders were able to do was to enable that militance, to attract people to the Klan, but also control that militance and kind of contain it.
社会学家戴维·坎宁安 (David Cunningham):琼斯的出色之处在于,我认为任何其他巨龙或国家领导人都无法做到这一点,那就是促成这种战斗,吸引人们加入三K党,同时控制这种战斗并在某种程度上遏制它。
Mark Potok, Southern Poverty Law Center: : Bob Jones felt that he would be more successful appearing to be nonviolent.
马克·波托克(Mark Potok),南方贫困法律中心:鲍勃·琼斯(Bob Jones)认为,如果他表现得非暴力的话,他会更成功。
He would not incur the wrath of the north, of the FBI, the federal authorities.
他不会招致北方、联邦调查局和联邦当局的愤怒。
And in some ways, he was right.
从某些方面来说,他是对的。
Unluckily for him, meanwhile, we had in other southern states an incredibly violent bunch of Klan groups that really did bring down the furies.
与此同时,对他来说不幸的是,在南方其他州,我们有一群极其暴力的三K党组织,确实平息了愤怒。
Narrator: : In March 1965, a white housewife, mother and civil rights worker named Viola Liuzzo was gunned down by Alabama klansmen.
旁白:1965 年 3 月,一位名叫维奥拉·利乌佐 (Viola Liuzzo) 的白人家庭主妇、母亲和民权工作者被阿拉巴马州党徒枪杀。
The brazen murder pushed the federal government into a full-scale assault on the Ku Klux Klan.
这起无耻的谋杀促使联邦政府对三K党进行全面攻击。
President Lyndon B.
总统林登·B.
Johnson (archival): : Mrs. Liuzzo went to Alabama to serve the struggles for justice.
约翰逊(档案)::柳佐夫人前往阿拉巴马州为正义斗争服务。
She was murdered by the enemies of justice.
她被正义的敌人谋杀了。
Their loyalty is not to the United States of America, but instead to a hooded society of bigots.
他们的忠诚不是对美利坚合众国,而是对一个由偏执狂组成的蒙面社会。
So if Klansmen hear my voice today, let it be both an appeal and a warning to get out of the Ku Klux Klan now and return to a decent society before it is too late.
因此,如果三K党成员今天听到我的声音,请让它既是呼吁,也是警告,让他们现在就离开三K党,回到一个体面的社会,以免为时已晚。
Narrator: : President Johnson's warning evoked anger and resentment in "Klansville"."It made us mad as hell," one North Carolina klansman recalled, "We couldn't remember a president saying anything threatening like that to a whole group of people." The klan rallied nearly every night for four months.
旁白:约翰逊总统的警告在“三K党维尔”引起了愤怒和怨恨。“这让我们发疯了,”北卡罗来纳州的一名三党成员回忆道,“我们不记得有哪个总统对一群人说过这样的话。”四个月来,三K党几乎每晚都集会。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : This was a way for the klan to defiantly say that, "we are unjustly being painted as the villains in this case.
社会学家戴维·坎宁安 (David Cunningham):这是三K党挑衅性地说的一种方式,“我们在这起案件中被不公正地描绘成恶棍。
The real villains are the civil rights forces that are trying to break apart America."
真正的恶棍是试图分裂美国的民权势力。”
Narrator: : On May 15, 1965, Jones and Dorsett flaunted their disdain for federal authority by hosting the klansmen accused of killing viola Liuzzo.
旁白:1965 年 5 月 15 日,琼斯和多塞特接待了被指控杀害维奥拉·利乌佐的三K党成员,以此表达了他们对联邦权威的蔑视。
A crowd of 6,000 turned out.
现场有 6,000 人参加。
CBS news sent a team to record the event.
哥伦比亚广播公司新闻部派出一个团队来记录这一事件。
Charles Kuralt: CBS (archival audio): : As extra added attraction, Matt Murphy introduced the three men indicted for the murder of civil rights worker, Mrs. Viola Liuzzo.
查尔斯·库拉尔特:CBS(档案音频)::作为额外的吸引力,马特·墨菲介绍了被指控谋杀民权工作者维奥拉·利乌佐夫人的三名男子。
Matt Murphy (archival): : I present Mr. W.O.
马特·墨菲(档案)::我介绍 W.O. 先生。
Eaton.
伊顿。
[applause] Mr. Eugene Thomas.
[掌声]尤金·托马斯先生。
[applause] And the boy who stood under the battle guns, Collie Leroy Wilkins.
[掌声] 还有那个站在战枪下的男孩,科利·勒罗伊·威尔金斯。
[applause and cheering]
[掌声和欢呼]
Narrator: : When the CBS report aired, millions of Americans saw the Ku Klux Klan up close for the first time.
旁白::当哥伦比亚广播公司的报道播出时,数百万美国人第一次近距离看到了三K党。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: ; The Carolina Klan had found themselves relatively insulated from the deadly acts of violence that had really dogged the Klan in the Deeper South, but when their members are celebrating those acts as politically necessary, and in effect would condone murder in the name of white supremacy.
社会学家大卫·坎宁安 (David Cunningham):;卡罗莱纳州三K党发现自己相对不受致命暴力行为的影响,这些暴力行为确实困扰了南方腹地的三K党,但当他们的成员庆祝这些行为是政治上必要的,实际上会纵容以白人至上的名义谋杀。
The Carolina Klan becomes painted in a very different light.
卡罗莱纳三K党被描绘成截然不同的景象。
Narrator: : Dismantling the Klan had not been a priority for J.
旁白::解散三K党并不是 J. 的首要任务。
Edgar Hoover's FBI.
埃德加·胡佛的联邦调查局。
For years, agents had been actively trying to disrupt the other side of the civil rights struggle, which Hoover saw as part of a communist conspiracy.
多年来,特工们一直在积极试图破坏民权斗争的另一方,胡佛认为这是共产主义阴谋的一部分。
And more dangerous than the KKK.
而且比三K党更危险。
An official counterintelligence program targeting white hate groups was only a few months old, but it soon had Jones and his Carolina Klan in the crosshairs.
针对白人仇恨团体的官方反情报计划才推出几个月,但很快琼斯和他的卡罗莱纳三K党就成为了目标。
Mark Potok, Southern Poverty Law Center: : Hoover initially reluctantly, but then fairly wholeheartedly, went after the Klan and was very successful placing informants in major Klan groups, although some of those informants were very scary and violent people themselves.
马克·波托克(Mark Potok),南方贫困法律中心:胡佛最初不情愿,但后来相当全心全意地追捕三K党,并非常成功地将线人安置在主要的三K党团体中,尽管其中一些线人本身就是非常可怕和暴力的人。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : Klan members saw themselves as patriotic, as anti-communist.
社会学家戴维·坎宁安 (David Cunningham)::三K党成员认为自己是爱国的、反共的。
They saw the FBI as probably the staunchest defenders of an America that needed to be kept safe from communism.
他们认为联邦调查局可能是美国最坚定的捍卫者,需要保护美国免受共产主义的侵害。
Narrator: : In North Carolina, agent Dargan Frierson developed several informants within klan circles.
旁白::在北卡罗来纳州,特工达根·弗里森 (Dargan Frierson) 在三K党圈子内培养了几名线人。
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : In my dad's own family history, he has people who are resisting the progress of African American people.
迈克尔·弗里森(Michael Frierson),电影制片人::在我父亲的家族历史中,他有些人抵制非裔美国人的进步。
So he can go to Klan people and say, "Hey, my granddaddy was in the Klan so I know what you're going through." The other thing, you can go to a potential informant and say, "We're trying to do the same things, right?
这样他就可以去找三K党成员说:“嘿,我的祖父是三K党成员,所以我知道你们正在经历什么。”另一方面,你可以去找潜在的线人说:“我们正在尝试做同样的事情,对吧?
We want to fight communism, too.
我们也想反对共产主义。
Help us do that."
帮助我们做到这一点。”
Narrator: : None was more valuable than George Dorsett, the North Carolina klan's biggest fundraiser and one of the most powerful members of Jones's inner circle.
旁白:没有人比乔治·多塞特更有价值了,他是北卡罗来纳州三K党最大的筹款人,也是琼斯核心圈子中最有权势的成员之一。
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : Dorsett throughout his life thought the Klan was a righteous organization.
迈克尔·弗里森(Michael Frierson),电影制片人::多塞特一生都认为三K党是一个正义的组织。
It had a righteous purpose in the world.
它在世界上有一个正义的目的。
I asked my dad one time, "Why would Dorsett work for you?" And his answer was, "Because we became friends." And the other thing is, once you get somebody to give you information and sign a receipt, my dad always said, "Then you got them, right?" Because the threat of exposing somebody is real.
有一次我问爸爸:“帝豪为什么要为你工作?”他的回答是:“因为我们成了朋友。”另一件事是,一旦你让某人给你提供信息并签署收据,我爸爸总是说:“然后你就得到了,对吧?”因为揭露某人的威胁是真实的。
Narrator: : Dorsett kept agent Frierson up to date on klan activities.
旁白::多赛特向特工弗里森通报了三K党活动的最新情况。
The FBI learned that many klansmen were unhappy with how Jones was handling the group's finances, and that his wife had been put in charge of the tens of thousands of dollars arriving at the state office.
联邦调查局了解到,许多党员对琼斯处理该组织财务的方式不满意,而且他的妻子已被任命负责管理到达州政府办公室的数万美元。
In October 1965, the House Un-American activities committee, known for its probes into communist and civil rights groups, opened hearings on the Klan.
1965 年 10 月,以调查共产主义和民权团体而闻名的众议院非美活动委员会就三K党问题举行了听证会。
Building on FBI intelligence, HUAC investigators developed a strategy to follow the money, and held well-publicized hearings on Capitol Hill.
根据 FBI 情报,HUAC 调查人员制定了追踪资金的策略,并在国会山举行了广为人知的听证会。
Robert Shelton, the Imperial Wizard of the United Klans of America, testified first, invoking the fifth amendment more than 150 times.
美国三K党联合帝国巫师罗伯特·谢尔顿首先作证,援引第五修正案超过150次。
Bob Jones followed suit, sidestepping questions about the Cadillac purchased with Klan funds, proceeds from sales of klan robes, and the personal bank accounts into which he'd deposited membership dues.
鲍勃·琼斯也效仿,回避了有关用三K党资金购买的凯迪拉克、销售三K党长袍的收益以及他存入会员费的个人银行账户的问题。
Philip R.
菲利普·R。
Manuel, Investigator: : You can't describe yourself as this great patriot who is out for the betterment of the people and to preserve segregation, and at the same time when you're out of public view, you let a lot of money fall off the table.
曼努埃尔,调查员::你不能把自己描述为一位伟大的爱国者,他为了人民的福祉和维护种族隔离而奋斗,同时,当你脱离公众视野时,你让很多钱从桌子上掉下来。
That's not right.
那是不对的。
That's being a crook.
这就是骗子。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : That strategy of invoking the Fifth in these committee hearings was strongly associated with communists, and so there were many Klan members who were absolutely appalled that their leaders would invoke that exact same strategy that communists had been doing for years in these kinds of hearings.
社会学家戴维·坎宁安(David Cunningham):在这些委员会听证会上援引第五条的策略与共产党人密切相关,因此,许多三K党成员对他们的领导人会援引共产党人多年来在此类听证会上采用的完全相同的策略感到非常震惊。
Robert Shelton (archival): : I do not have to answer to them in regards to records or anything of this organization.
罗伯特·谢尔顿(档案)::我不必就本组织的记录或任何事情向他们作出答复。
I only have to answer to this membership.
我只需要对这个会员资格负责。
Reporter (archival): : What do you think the membership's reaction will be to the allegation of financial irregularities?
记者(档案):您认为会员们对财务违规指控有何反应?
Robert Shelton (archival): : I think if there's any worry you'd see it.
罗伯特谢尔顿(档案)::我想如果有任何担心,你会看到它。
Philip R.
菲利普·R。
Manuel, Investigator: : I think the very fact that the leaders of the Klan took the Fifth Amendment was a real eye-opener for many of the rank and file members of the Ku Klux Klan who thought of themselves as patriotic and who looked on the invocation of the Fifth Amendment as an admission of guilt in their minds.
曼努埃尔,调查员:我认为,三K党领导人通过第五修正案这一事实确实让许多三K党的普通成员大开眼界,他们认为自己是爱国的,并且将援引第五修正案视为在他们的心目中承认有罪。
Reporter (archival): : Mr. Jones, would you care to comment?
记者(档案)::琼斯先生,您愿意发表评论吗?
Did you feel intimidated in there today?
今天你在那里感到害怕吗?
Bob Jones (archival): : Mr. Shelton is speaking for Mr. Kornegay and me…
鲍勃·琼斯(档案)::谢尔顿先生代表科内盖先生和我发言……
Narrator: : Jones's refusal to testify alienated many of his followers.
旁白::琼斯拒绝作证,疏远了他的许多追随者。
Joseph Dubois, a klavern treasurer, was so upset with jones that he resigned on the witness stand.
克拉文财务主管约瑟夫·杜波依斯 (Joseph Dubois) 对琼斯非常不满,以至于在证人席上辞职。
"Only a communist takes the fifth amendment," Dubois said, "or someone with something to hide."
“只有共产主义者才会接受第五修正案,”杜波依斯说,“或者是有什么隐瞒的人。”
Gary Freeze, Historian: : Eventually Klansmen saw that Bob Jones was just another snake oil salesman.
加里·弗雷兹(Gary Freeze),历史学家::最终,三K党成员发现鲍勃·琼斯只是另一个蛇油推销员。
He was selling something that just made them sick, not cured.
他出售的东西只会让他们生病,而不是治愈。
Narrator: : Embarrassed by HUAC revelations that North Carolina had the largest Klan organization in the nation, state officials cracked down.
旁白::HUAC 揭露北卡罗来纳州拥有全国最大的三K党组织,州政府官员对此感到尴尬,并进行了镇压。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : The policing of the Klan became to more closely mirror what civil rights activists had long been subject to.
社会学家戴维·坎宁安 (David Cunningham)::对三K党的监管更加贴切地反映了民权活动人士长期以来所遭受的待遇。
They start arresting people for minor infractions, pretext kind of arrests.
他们开始以轻微违法行为为借口逮捕人们。
They start harassing people at rallies.
他们开始在集会上骚扰人们。
They start having official injunctions to prevent rallies from being held.
他们开始发布官方禁令来阻止集会的举行。
All these things can come upon them for being a Klan member that wouldn't have been in the world of consequences prior to 1966.
作为一名三K党成员,所有这些事情都可能发生在他们身上,而这在 1966 年之前是不会发生的。
Narrator: : The FBI took advantage of the loss of faith in Jones's leadership.
旁白::联邦调查局利用了人们对琼斯领导能力丧失信心的机会。
George Dorsett's FBI handler urged him to break away from Jones and start his own group.
乔治·多塞特的联邦调查局负责人敦促他脱离琼斯并组建自己的组织。
Michael Frierson, Filmmaker: : I think my dad realized, "If we can get people to splinter off and form smaller organizations, that's an easy way to end the power of Bob Jones." I think for somebody with as much ego as George Dorsett, the notion of starting your own klan unit was important to him.
迈克尔·弗里森(Michael Frierson),电影制片人:我想我父亲意识到,“如果我们能让人们分裂并组建更小的组织,那就是结束鲍勃·琼斯权力的简单方法。”我认为对于像乔治·多赛特这样自负的人来说,建立自己的三K党单位的想法对他来说很重要。
I mean, it's almost like a career path.
我的意思是,这几乎就像一条职业道路。
"I've been the Grand Klud for a while.
“我担任大帮已经有一段时间了。
Now I want to be the Grand Dragon.
现在我想成为巨龙。
Now I want to move up in the world."
现在我想在世界上更上一层楼。”
Narrator: : Hundreds of Jones's members signed up with Dorsett, but the new group soon fell apart.
旁白: 数百名琼斯的成员加入了帝盛,但这个新团体很快就解散了。
Dorsett later lamented he wasn't cut out to be a leader like Jones.
多塞特后来感叹自己不适合成为像琼斯这样的领导者。
Following the HUAC hearings, Jones was convicted of contempt of Congress for refusing to produce klan records.
HUAC 听证会结束后,琼斯因拒绝出示三k党记录而被判藐视国会罪。
In 1969, he was sentenced to a year in federal prison.
1969年,他被判处在联邦监狱服刑一年。
By then, the North Carolina klan had dwindled to a fraction of its former size.
到那时,北卡罗来纳州的三K党规模已缩减至原来的一小部分。
On September 15th, Jones's fellow klansmen stapled their membership cards to a giant cross and ceremoniously set it ablaze.
9 月 15 日,琼斯的党员将他们的会员卡钉在一个巨大的十字架上,并隆重地将其点燃。
David Cecelski: Historian: : I don't think the Klan was quelled, but that kind of laid back attitude toward the Klan changes in my part of the state.
David Cecelski:历史学家:我不认为三K党被镇压了,但这种对三K党的悠闲态度在我所在的地区发生了变化。
African-Americans are organized, and they're just not going to take this from the Ku Klux Klan anymore.
非裔美国人是有组织的,他们不会再从三K党手中夺走这一点。
A lot of whites are finding their racial anxieties channeled into other political avenues, into the Republican Party, but also into George Wallace's American Independent Party.
许多白人发现他们的种族焦虑被引入了其他政治途径,进入了共和党,也进入了乔治·华莱士领导的美国独立党。
And so for all those reasons, the Klan, it becomes a shameful thing again.
因此,由于所有这些原因,三K党再次成为一件可耻的事情。
David Cunningham, Sociologist: : Jones and the Carolina Klan were not able to achieve any of their major goals.
社会学家戴维·坎宁安 (David Cunningham)::琼斯和卡罗莱纳三K党未能实现任何主要目标。
They weren't able to maintain segregation in a formal legal sense, of course.
当然,他们无法在正式的法律意义上维持种族隔离。
They were not able to build a long-lasting political constituency around the Klan.
他们没能在三K党周围建立一个持久的政治选区。
But Jones was able to mobilize people around racial ideas in a way that has been quite durable.
但琼斯能够以一种相当持久的方式动员人们围绕种族观念。
David Cecelski: Historian: : Some people would live the rest of their life regretting those three or four years.
大卫·塞塞尔斯基(David Cecelski):历史学家::有些人会在余生中为那三四年的时光感到遗憾。
They act as if they were another person, you know, like, "I don't know what came over me." But for a while, we really descended into the darkness.
他们表现得好像他们是另一个人,你知道,就像,“我不知道我发生了什么。”但有一段时间,我们真的陷入了黑暗。
As the civil rights movement grew in the 1960s, the long-dormant Ku Klux Klan reemerged with a vengeance.
随着 20 世纪 60 年代民权运动的发展,沉寂已久的三K党卷土重来。
The Ku Klux Klan was organized after the Civil War by a small group of men aiming to form a brotherhood during the time of Reconstruction in the 1860s.
三K党是在内战后由一小群人组织起来的,目的是在 1860 年代重建时期建立兄弟会。
Filmmaker Callie Wiser reflects on the experience of making Klansville U.S.A.
电影制片人卡莉·怀瑟 (Callie Wiser) 回顾了制作《美国克兰斯维尔》的经历
and the film's relevance in 2017.
以及这部电影在 2017 年的相关性。
In order to maintain his power as Grand Dragon, Bob Jones cultivated a careful balance between promoting the militant message of the Klan, while still appearing to be nonviolent.
为了维持自己作为巨龙的权力,鲍勃·琼斯在宣传三K党的好战信息与表现得非暴力之间保持着谨慎的平衡。
In August 1965, the small town of Plymouth, North Carolina nearly became the site of what might have been one of the bloodiest events of the civil rights era.
1965 年 8 月,北卡罗来纳州普利茅斯小镇几乎成为民权时代最血腥事件之一的发生地。
Sociologist and Ku Klux Klan scholar David Cunningham discusses the five questions he is most frequently asked about the Klan.
社会学家和三K党学者大卫·坎宁安讨论了他最常被问及的有关三K党的五个问题。
After the 1915 premiere of D.W.
1915 年 D.W.
Griffith's The Birth of a Nation, there was a resurgence in the Ku Klux Klan in America.
格里菲斯的《一个国家的诞生》中,三K党在美国死灰复燃。
When the FBI began to investigate the North Carolina Ku Klux Klan, one of their most important informants was a member of Grand Dragon Bob Jones' inner circle.
当联邦调查局开始调查北卡罗来纳州的三K党时,他们最重要的线人之一是巨龙鲍勃·琼斯核心圈子的成员。
Bob Jones dreamed of making his North Carolina Klan a powerful voting block.
鲍勃·琼斯梦想让他的北卡罗来纳州三K党成为一个强大的投票群体。
The Ku Klux Klan has been a presence in America on and off since Reconstruction in the late 1800s, using symbols as powerful intimidation tools.
自 1800 年代末重建时期以来,三K党就断断续续地出现在美国,利用符号作为强大的恐吓工具。
On August 14, 1966 over 5,000 people gathered at the Memorial Auditorium in Raleigh, North Carolina to support Klan leaders under investigation by the Federal Government.
1966 年 8 月 14 日,超过 5,000 人聚集在北卡罗来纳州罗利的纪念礼堂,支持正在接受联邦政府调查的三K党领导人。