Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple
On-screen text: : On November 18th, 1978, in Jonestown, Guyana, 909 members of Peoples Temple died in what has been called the largest mass suicide in modern history.
屏幕文字: 1978 年 11 月 18 日,在圭亚那琼斯敦,909 名人民圣殿教成员死于这场被称为现代历史上最大规模的集体自杀事件。
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : Nobody joins a cult.
Deborah Layton,人民圣殿教成员、《诱惑毒药》作者::没有人加入邪教。
Nobody joins something they think is going to hurt them.
没有人加入他们认为会伤害他们的事情。
You join a religious organization, you join a political movement, and you join with people that you really like.
你加入一个宗教组织,你加入一个政治运动,你加入你真正喜欢的人。
Jim Jones Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : I think in everything that I tell you about Jim Jones, there is going to be a paradox.
小吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones Jr.),人民圣殿教成员:我认为,我向您介绍的有关吉姆·琼斯的一切内容都存在一个悖论。
Having this vision to change the world, but having this whole undercurrent of dysfunction that was underneath that vision.
拥有改变世界的愿景,但在该愿景之下却存在着整个功能障碍的暗流。
Jim Jones (archival): : Some people see a great deal of God in my body.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::有些人在我的身体里看到了很多上帝。
They see Christ in me, a hope of glory.
他们在我身上看到了基督,这是荣耀的盼望。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : He said, “If you see me as your friend, I’ll be your friend.
小休·福特森 (Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员::他说,“如果你把我视为你的朋友,我就会成为你的朋友。
As you see me as your father, I’ll be your father.” He said, “If you see me as your God, I’ll be your God.”
当你视我为你的父亲时,我就会成为你的父亲。”他说:“如果你视我为你的神,我就会成为你的神。”
Kristine Kravitz, Peoples Temple Member: : Jim Jones talked about going to the Promised Land and then, pretty soon, we were seeing film footage of Jonestown.
克里斯汀·克拉维茨(Kristine Kravitz),人民圣殿教成员:吉姆·琼斯(Jim Jones)谈到了去应许之地,然后很快,我们就看到了琼斯镇的电影片段。
Grace Stoen, Peoples Temple Member: : Peoples Temple truly had the potential to be something big and powerful and great, and yet for whatever reason, Jim took the other road.
人民圣殿教成员格蕾丝·斯托恩 (Grace Stoen)::人民圣殿教确实有潜力变得强大、伟大,但无论出于何种原因,吉姆却走了另一条路。
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : On the night of the 17th, it was still a vibrant community.
Jackie Speier,国会议员 Leo Ryan 的助手: 17 日晚上,这里仍然是一个充满活力的社区。
I would never have imagined that 24 hours later, they would all be dead.
我万万没想到,24小时后,他们都死了。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : Die with a degree of dignity!
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::有尊严地死去!
Don’t lay down with tears and agony!
不要带着眼泪和痛苦躺下!
It’s nothing to death.
死也没什么。
It’s just stepping over into another plane.
它只是跨入另一架飞机。
Don’t, don’t be this way.
不要,不要这样。
Rebecca Moore, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : I vividly remember the first time that I met Jim Jones.
人民圣殿教成员亲属丽贝卡·摩尔: 我清楚地记得第一次见到吉姆·琼斯的情景。
My sister Carolyn had invited my parents and my younger sister and I to visit her in Potter Valley.
我的妹妹卡罗琳邀请我的父母、我的妹妹和我去波特谷看望她。
We came and there was this strange man in her house, and her husband wasn’t there.
我们到了,她家里有一个奇怪的男人,而她的丈夫却不在。
Annie and I were sent out to go on a walk.
安妮和我被派去散步。
When we came back, something had happened.
当我们回来时,发生了一些事情。
Something terrible had happened, because everyone had red eyes except for Jim Jones.
发生了可怕的事情,因为除了吉姆·琼斯之外,每个人的眼睛都红了。
We didn’t really get the story until we were in the car going home.
直到我们坐车回家时,我们才真正了解这个故事。
He was carrying on an adulterous relationship with my sister.
他与我妹妹有通奸关系。
And because his wife couldn’t relate to him as a wife — that Carolyn had taken over that role.
由于他的妻子无法将他视为妻子,卡罗琳就接替了这个角色。
Everything was plausible, except in retrospect, the whole thing seems absolutely bizarre.
一切似乎都是合理的,但回想起来,整件事看起来绝对是怪异的。
On-screen text: : Peoples Temple Children’s Choir — Welcome
屏幕文字::人民圣殿童声合唱团 — 欢迎
Janet Shular, Peoples Temple Member: : The first time I visited Peoples Temple, I drove at the urging of a friend — a co-worker — to Redwood Valley.
Janet Shular,人民圣殿教成员: :我第一次参观人民圣殿教时,在朋友(同事)的催促下,我开车去了红杉谷。
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : We all got suited down, neck-tied and everything.
Stanley Clayton,人民圣殿教成员::我们都穿上西装,系好领带,等等。
You know, and we were sharp.
你知道,我们很敏锐。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : As soon as I walked into the San Francisco temple, I was home.
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter)::当我走进旧金山圣殿时,我就到家了。
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : I was one of those kind of guys that — I used drugs.
斯坦利·克莱顿,人民圣殿教成员::我是那种吸毒的人之一。
I was an alcoholic.
我是个酒鬼。
I drunk alcohol and stuff like that.
我喝过酒之类的东西。
And — and all these people that were like my age, they were clean.
而且——所有这些和我年龄相仿的人,他们都是干净的。
Woman (archival): : Before I came here, I was taking LSD, marijuana, every type of dope you can imagine.
女人(档案)::在我来到这里之前,我吸食了迷幻药、大麻,以及你能想象到的各种毒品。
Without our pastor, Jim Jones, to teach me the right way, I would not be in college right now.
如果没有我们的牧师吉姆·琼斯教我正确的方法,我现在就不会上大学。
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : And for me, that was like, “Wow, man.” I liked that.
斯坦利·克莱顿,人民圣殿教成员::对我来说,这就像,“哇,伙计。”我喜欢那个。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : There was an interracial group.
Hue Fortson Jr.,人民圣殿教成员::有一个跨种族群体。
The choir was interracial and they used to sing this song — “Never heard a man speak like this man before.
合唱团是跨种族的,他们经常唱这首歌——“以前从未听过一个人像这个人一样说话。
Never heard a man speak like this man before.
以前从未听过一个人像这个人一样说话。
All the days of my life, ever since I been born, I never heard a man speak like this man before.” After they sang one or two songs, the whole place was lit up.
我一生下来,自从我出生以来,我从来没有听过一个人像这个人一样说话。”他们唱了一两首歌后,整个地方都亮了。
On-screen text: : Peoples Temple Choir — Something Got a Hold of Me
屏幕上的文字::人民圣殿合唱团 — Something Got a Hold of Me
(Singing, archival): : Something got a hold of me, oh yes indeed.
(唱歌,档案)::有什么东西抓住了我,哦,是的,确实如此。
I said something got a hold of me.
我说有件事抓住了我。
Garrett Lambrev, Peoples Temple Member: : The Peoples Temple services, they had life, they had soul, they had power.
加勒特·兰布雷夫(Garrett Lambrev),人民圣殿教成员::人民圣殿教服务,他们有生命,他们有灵魂,他们有力量。
We were alive in those services.
我们在这些服务中充满活力。
Claire Janaro, Peoples Temple Member: : I would be up jumping in the balcony and clapping my hands.
人民圣殿教成员克莱尔·贾纳罗 (Claire Janaro)::我会在阳台上跳起来并拍手。
If you came in as a stranger and didn’t know anything about the politics, you were thinking you were entering an old-time religion service.
如果你作为一个陌生人进来,对政治一无所知,你就会以为你正在参加一个古老的宗教仪式。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : By the time Jones did come out to do his speaking, the table had already been set.
小休·福特森 (Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员::当琼斯出来讲话时,桌子已经摆好了。
Jim Jones (archival): : I represent divine principle, total equality, a society where people own all things in common.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::我代表神圣原则,完全平等,一个人们共同拥有所有东西的社会。
Where there is no rich or poor.
那里没有贫富之分。
Where there are no races.
没有比赛的地方。
Wherever there is people struggling for justice and righteousness, there I am.
哪里有为正义而奋斗的人,哪里就有我。
And there I am involved.
我也参与其中。
Neva Sly Hargrave, Peoples Temple Member: : What he spoke about were things that were in our hearts.
涅瓦·斯莱·哈格雷夫(Neva Sly Hargrave),人民圣殿教成员::他所说的是我们心里的事情。
The government was not taking care of the people.
政府没有照顾人民。
There were too many poor people out there.
那里有太多穷人。
There were poor children.
那里有贫穷的孩子。
Jim Jones (archival): : The world is like a human family.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::世界就像一个人类大家庭。
The little child may not be able to go and draw a paycheck, but the father guarantees the childcare.
小孩子可能拿不到工资,但父亲保证照顾孩子。
The grandmother may not be able to work anymore, but the father and mother guarantees her the right to live.
奶奶可能无法再工作了,但爸爸妈妈保证了她生存的权利。
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : Every single person felt that they had a purpose there and that they were exceptionally special.
Deborah Layton,人民圣殿教成员、作家、《诱惑毒药》::每个人都觉得他们在那里有一个目的,并且他们非常特别。
And that is how he brought so many young college kids in, so many older black women in, so many people from diverse backgrounds who realized that there was something bigger than themselves that they needed to be involved in — and that Jim Jones offered that.
这就是他如何吸引了这么多年轻的大学生、这么多年长的黑人女性、这么多来自不同背景的人,他们意识到有比他们自己更重要的事情需要参与——而吉姆·琼斯提供了这一点。
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : I went home, told mom — “You know what, this is the right church for me.” It was the next week that I became a member of Peoples Temple.
斯坦利·克莱顿(Stanley Clayton),人民圣殿教成员::我回到家,告诉妈妈——“你知道吗,这就是适合我的教堂。”就在接下来的一周,我成为了人民圣殿教的一员。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : There’s a little town in Indiana.
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::印第安纳州有一个小镇。
The moment I think of it a great deal of pain comes.
一想到这里,我就感到一阵巨大的痛苦。
As a child I was undoubtedly one of the poor in the community, never accepted.
作为一个孩子,我无疑是社区里的穷人之一,从未被接受过。
Born as it were on the wrong side of the tracks.
好像它出生在铁轨的错误一侧。
Phyllis Wilmore-Zimmerman, Childhood Friend: : I grew up with Jimmy Jones.
菲利斯·威尔莫尔·齐默尔曼(Phyllis Wilmore-Zimmerman),童年好友::我和吉米·琼斯一起长大。
We started first grade together.
我们一起开始一年级。
My brothers used to go over to Jimmy’s house and hung around his barn, which was where he played.
我的兄弟们常常去吉米家,在他的谷仓周围闲逛,那是他玩耍的地方。
Chuck Wilmore, Childhood Friend: : From the time I was five years old, I thought Jimmy was a really weird kid, there was something not quite right.
Chuck Wilmore,儿时好友: :从我五岁起,我就觉得吉米是个很奇怪的孩子,有些地方不太对劲。
He was obsessed with religion; he was obsessed with death.
他痴迷于宗教;他对死亡着迷。
Phyllis Wilmore-Zimmerman, Childhood Friend: : My brothers came back with stories of him conducting funerals for small animals that had died.
菲利斯·威尔莫尔·齐默尔曼(Phyllis Wilmore-Zimmerman),儿时好友::我的兄弟们回来时讲述了他为死去的小动物举行葬礼的故事。
Chuck Wilmore, Childhood Friend: : A friend of mine told me that he saw Jimmy kill a cat with a knife.
查克·威尔莫尔(Chuck Wilmore),童年好友::我的一个朋友告诉我,他看到吉米用刀杀死了一只猫。
Well having a funeral for it was a little strange, killing the animal was very strange.
为它举办葬礼有点奇怪,杀死动物则很奇怪。
Phyllis Wilmore-Zimmerman, Childhood Friend: : Jimmy’s father did not work, did not have a job, and was a drunk.
菲利斯·威尔莫尔·齐默尔曼(Phyllis Wilmore-Zimmerman),童年好友::吉米的父亲没有工作,没有工作,而且是个酒鬼。
Jim’s mother had to work in order to support the family.
吉姆的母亲必须工作才能养家糊口。
Jim Jones Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : And he was kind of left to his own devices.
人民圣殿教成员小吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones Jr.)::他有点被孤立了。
Kind of the kid who ran wild in the street, you know what I mean?
那种在街上狂奔的孩子,你明白我的意思吗?
Listen, he was in a dysfunctional family.
听着,他生活在一个功能失调的家庭中。
We got a nice name for it now.
我们现在给它起了一个好听的名字。
But when you live in a dysfunctional family, you think it’s normal.
但当你生活在一个功能失调的家庭中时,你会认为这是正常的。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : Feeling as an outcast, I’d early developed a sensitivity for the problems of blacks.
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::作为一个被遗弃的人,我很早就对黑人的问题产生了敏感性。
I brought the only black young man in the town home and my dad said that he could not come in and I said, “Then I shan’t,” and I did not see my dad for many years.
我带镇上唯一的黑人年轻人回家,我爸爸说他不能进来,我说:“那我就不去了。”我已经很多年没有见到我爸爸了。
John R.
约翰·R。
Hall, Sociologist: : In Lynn, Jim Jones looked for community and couldn’t find community, in Lynn as a town — which had a population of what, a thousand people?
霍尔,社会学家::吉姆·琼斯在林恩寻找社区,但找不到社区,在林恩作为一个城镇 - 人口有多少,一千人?
But he did find community in the Pentecostal Church.
但他确实在五旬节教会中找到了社区。
Tim Reiterman, Journalist: : He saw that they were a surrogate home.
Tim Reiterman,记者::他看到他们是一个代孕之家。
He saw that the preachers were like father figures to their congregations.
他认为传道人对于他们的会众来说就像父亲一样。
And that role represented power over the lives of your congregation.
这个角色代表着对会众生活的权力。
John R.
约翰·R。
Hall, Sociologist: : Jim Jones started out on the revival preaching circuit, learning the ropes of being a preacher.
霍尔,社会学家:吉姆·琼斯开始了复兴布道巡回演出,学习成为传道人的秘诀。
And once he started doing that, it became clear that he could get a following.
一旦他开始这样做,很明显他可以获得追随者。
June Cordell, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : The first time I met Jim Jones was Easter 1953.
琼·科德尔(June Cordell),人民圣殿教成员亲属::我第一次见到吉姆·琼斯是在 1953 年的复活节。
My mother-in-law, Edith Cordell, had a monkey and it hung itself and she wanted to replace the monkey.
我的婆婆伊迪丝·科德尔(Edith Cordell)养了一只猴子,它上吊了,她想换掉那只猴子。
So she looked in the Indianapolis Star , and in that Indianapolis Star was Jim Jones’s ad that he had some monkeys to sell.
于是她看了《印第安纳波利斯星报》,那本《印第安纳波利斯星报》上刊登了吉姆·琼斯的广告,说他有一些猴子要卖。
So it was through that that she met Jim Jones, and came back saying that he had invited her to church this next Sunday.
就这样,她认识了吉姆·琼斯,回来后说他邀请她下周日去教堂。
June Cordell, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : It didn’t make no difference what color you were.
琼·科德尔(June Cordell),人民圣殿教成员的亲属::你是什么肤色都没有区别。
It was everybody welcome there in that church and he made it very plain from the platform.
教堂里的每个人都受到欢迎,他在讲台上说得很清楚。
Eugene Cordell, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : We had some people that disagreed with Jimmy.
人民圣殿教成员亲属尤金·科德尔::我们有些人不同意吉米的观点。
They got up in the audience and they said they disagreed with him.
他们在观众席上站起来,表示不同意他的观点。
They did not like this integration part of the services.
他们不喜欢服务的集成部分。
We did ask people to leave the church one night because of that.
因此,我们确实要求人们在一天晚上离开教堂。
Jim Jones Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : I was the first Negro child adopted by a Caucasian family in the state of Indiana.
人民圣殿教成员小吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones Jr.)::我是印第安纳州第一个被白人家庭收养的黑人孩子。
Jim and Marceline actually went to adopt a Caucasian child.
吉姆和玛瑟琳实际上去收养了一个白人孩子。
The story goes that I was crying real loud and it drew attention for Marceline to come over, and once she picked me up, I stopped crying.
据说,我哭得很大声,这引起了玛瑟琳过来的注意,当她抱起我时,我就停止了哭泣。
My family was a template of a rainbow family.
我的家庭是彩虹家庭的模板。
We had an African American, we had two American Asian and we had his natural son, homemade.
我们有一个非裔美国人,我们有两个美国亚裔,我们还有他的亲生儿子,自制的。
Rev.
牧师。
Garnett Day, Minister: : Jim was breaking new ground in race relations at a time when the ground was still pretty hard against that.
加内特·戴部长:吉姆在种族关系方面开辟了新天地,而当时的情况仍然相当困难。
Jim Jones was hated and despised by some people, particularly in the white community.
吉姆·琼斯受到一些人的仇恨和鄙视,特别是在白人社区。
Fielding McGehee, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : There had been pressures on him to leave Indianapolis.
人民圣殿教成员亲属菲尔丁·麦吉希 (Fielding McGehee):他面临着离开印第安纳波利斯的压力。
He thought that Indianapolis was too racist of a place for him to be, and he wanted to take his people out.
他认为印第安纳波利斯对他来说是一个种族主义太过严重的地方,他想把他的人民赶出去。
Rebecca Moore, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : California is perceived to be a very progressive state.
人民圣殿教成员亲属丽贝卡·摩尔 (Rebecca Moore)::加利福尼亚州被认为是一个非常进步的州。
This would be the place to implement the dream of racial equality.
这将是实现种族平等梦想的地方。
Not Indianapolis, which seems hopeless, but California, which seems to be the Promised Land.
不是看似无望的印第安纳波利斯,而是看似应许之地的加利福尼亚。
Fielding McGehee, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : He chose Ukiah in northern California — about 90 miles north of San Francisco — because there was an article in Esquire Magazine that said that Ukiah was one of the nine places in the world that in the event of thermonuclear attack, people would survive.
人民圣殿教成员亲属菲尔丁·麦吉赫:他选择了加利福尼亚州北部的尤凯亚(旧金山以北约 90 英里),因为《时尚先生》杂志上有一篇文章说,尤凯亚是世界上九个在发生热核攻击时人们能够幸存的地方之一。
Eugene Cordell, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : I told Edith, “If you follow Jimmy to California, you’re crazy.” So what did Jimmy do, but took her to a psychiatrist and sent me a certified letter that she is of sound mind, and she is not crazy.
尤金·科德尔(Eugene Cordell),人民圣殿教成员的亲戚::我告诉伊迪丝,“如果你跟着吉米去加州,你就疯了。”那么吉米做了什么,只是带她去看精神科医生,并给我发了一封证明信,证明她神智正常,而且她没有疯。
I was there the afternoon that Edith drove away.
伊迪丝开车离开的那天下午我就在那里。
I didn’t know I’d never see her again.
我不知道我再也见不到她了。
Jim Jones Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : The move to California was really fun.
Jim Jones Jr.,人民圣殿教成员::搬到加利福尼亚真的很有趣。
There were about twelve to fifteen cars driving across United States and making that journey to a place that none of us knew, you know — none of us could even imagine.
大约有十二到十五辆汽车穿越美国,前往一个我们都不知道的地方,你知道——我们甚至无法想象。
We were going to California, our new world.
我们要去加利福尼亚,我们的新世界。
On-screen text: : Peoples Temple Farm, Ukiah — Redwood Valley, California.
屏幕上的文字::尤凯亚州人民圣殿农场 — 加利福尼亚州红杉谷。
Claire Janaro, Peoples Temple Member: : When I saw Redwood Valley, I couldn’t believe my eyes because it was like a paradise.
人民圣殿教成员克莱尔·贾纳罗 (Claire Janaro)::当我看到红杉谷时,我简直不敢相信自己的眼睛,因为它就像一个天堂。
It was rural.
那是乡村。
It was green.
它是绿色的。
There were grape vines everywhere, and I fell in love.
到处都是葡萄藤,我爱上了。
I said this is got to be a perfect way to live.
我说这一定是一种完美的生活方式。
Jim Jones (archival): : We started with about a hundred and forty-one people and from that, we’ve grown to a very thriving congregation.
吉姆·琼斯(档案):我们一开始只有大约一百四十一个人,从那时起,我们已经发展成为一个非常繁荣的会众。
We have about every level of society, all socio-economic income strata — professional down to the ordinary field worker, field laborer.
我们几乎涵盖了社会的各个层面,所有的社会经济收入阶层——从专业人士到普通的现场工人、现场劳动者。
Really, it’s beautiful to see that all these divisions have been broken down — not only race, but any differences of economic position.
真的,很高兴看到所有这些分歧都被打破了——不仅是种族,还有经济地位的任何差异。
Joyce Shaw-Houston, Peoples Temple Member: : The focus of Jim’s message was taken from the Bible, where Jesus in his earliest days told people to sell all things and have all things in common.
乔伊斯·肖-休斯顿(Joyce Shaw-Houston),人民圣殿教成员::吉姆信息的重点取自《圣经》,耶稣在早期告诉人们要卖掉所有东西并拥有所有东西。
Jim Jones (archival): : Jesus Christ had the most revolutionary teachings to be said, in the sense that he said to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, take in the stranger, administer to those who are widows and afflicted in their suffering.
吉姆·琼斯(档案):耶稣基督有最具革命性的教义,他说要给饥饿的人提供食物,让赤身露体的人有衣服穿,收容陌生人,帮助那些寡妇和受苦受难的人。
And we feel that no one really tried Christianity too effectively in the Judeo-Christian tradition.
我们认为,没有人真正在犹太基督教传统中有效地尝试过基督教。
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : The membership increased substantially as he procured more and more Greyhound buses and fixed them up, and every summer he began this cross-country tour.
黛博拉·雷顿 (Deborah Layton),人民圣殿教成员、作家、《诱人的毒药》::随着他购买和修理越来越多的灰狗巴士,会员数量大幅增加,每年夏天他都开始这种越野旅行。
Claire Janaro, Peoples Temple Member: : The purpose of the bus trips was to spread Jim’s beliefs about socialism and the world, and how we can live a better life and about an integrated lifestyle.
人民圣殿教成员克莱尔·贾纳罗 (Claire Janaro): 巴士旅行的目的是传播吉姆对社会主义和世界的信念,以及我们如何过上更好的生活和一体化的生活方式。
But behind that, I think it was to gather more members for the Temple.
但背后,我想是为了让圣殿聚集更多的成员。
(Singing, archival): : As pilgrims here, we sometimes journey.
(歌唱,档案)::作为这里的朝圣者,我们有时会旅行。
Bryan Kravitz, Peoples Temple Member: : I decided not to go to Vietnam, and I was just at the point of what am I going to do with myself?
布莱恩·克拉维茨 (Bryan Kravitz),人民圣殿教成员: :我决定不去越南,我正考虑自己要做什么?
I heard Jim Jones was going to be coming to Philadelphia, and coming to Benjamin Franklin High School.
我听说吉姆·琼斯要来费城,来本杰明·富兰克林高中。
And I went Wednesday night and I listened to him, and I was impressed by how it was such an interracial group and people were really happy.
周三晚上我去了,听了他的讲话,我对这是一个如此跨种族的团体印象深刻,人们真的很高兴。
Jim Jones (archival): : You got nothing to lose.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::你没有什么可失去的。
Who else is going to stand and look you in the face and say, “Come and I’ll give you a job.
还有谁会站起来看着你的脸说:“来吧,我给你一份工作。
Come and I’ll give you a home.
来吧,我给你一个家。
Come and I’ll give you a bed?” “But I’ve got nothing but a pension.” “Go and leave your pension behind,” who else will tell you that?
来,我给你睡个床?” “但我除了养老金之外一无所有。” “走吧,把你的养老金抛在脑后”,还有谁会告诉你这句话?
Who’ll tell you, “I’ll put you on that bus tomorrow?”
谁会告诉你:“明天我送你上那辆公共汽车?”
Bryan Kravitz, Peoples Temple Member: : I heard Jim Jones talking about equality among races, what it’s like living in California, in the Redwood Valley, the good works that they’re doing.
人民圣殿教成员布莱恩·克拉维茨 (Bryan Kravitz):我听到吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones) 谈论种族平等、生活在加州、红杉谷的感觉以及他们所做的善事。
Things that, like, I wanted to get involved with, but didn’t even know where to make an entrée.
比如,我想参与其中,但甚至不知道在哪里做主菜。
And all of a sudden, the answer was there.
突然之间,答案就出现了。
Jim Jones (archival): : Somebody is gonna get on the freedom train in Philadelphia!
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::有人要登上费城的自由列车!
Bryan Kravitz, Peoples Temple Member: : He was there for three evenings, and the third evening I went off on the bus and came to California.
人民圣殿教成员布莱恩·克拉维茨 (Bryan Kravitz)::他在那里待了三个晚上,第三个晚上我就乘公共汽车来到了加利福尼亚。
Garrett Lambrev, Peoples Temple Member: : When I joined Peoples Temple in the spring of 1966, there were exactly eighty-one members.
加勒特·兰布雷夫(Garrett Lambrev),人民圣殿教成员: :当我在 1966 年春天加入人民圣殿教时,正好有八十一名成员。
Five years later, an extended family of eighty people had become an organization of thousands.
五年后,一个八十人的大家庭变成了一个数千人的组织。
Rebecca Moore, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : Peoples Temple really was a black church.
丽贝卡·摩尔,人民圣殿教成员亲属::人民圣殿教确实是一座黑人教堂。
It was led by a white minister, but in terms of the worship service, commitment to the social gospel, its membership — it functioned completely like a black church.
它由一名白人牧师领导,但就礼拜仪式、对社会福音的承诺、其成员资格而言,它的运作完全像一个黑人教堂。
Jim Jones Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : He talked black.
人民圣殿教成员小吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones Jr.)::他说的是黑话。
He really understood it.
他确实明白了。
He understood how it was to be treated differently.
他明白如何受到不同的对待。
And that’s from his roots coming out of Lynn.
这源于他的林恩血统。
Juanell Smart, Peoples Temple Member: : When people heard Jim, they didn’t look upon him as being a white preacher, you know.
胡安内尔·斯马特(Juanell Smart),人民圣殿教成员::你知道,当人们听到吉姆的声音时,他们并不认为他是一名白人传教士。
People didn’t look at Jim as being white.
人们并不认为吉姆是白人。
He was not white.
他不是白人。
He was just their preacher.
他只是他们的传教士。
Jim Jones (archival): : You going to go to Texas with me when I have that campaign?
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::当我参加竞选活动时,你会和我一起去德克萨斯州吗?
Senior Woman (archival): : I was just wondering whether I could go or not.
高级女士(档案): :我只是想知道我是否可以去。
I would like to go.
我想去。
Jim Jones (archival): : Why of course you’d go, you went to Mexico with me.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::为什么你当然会去,你和我一起去了墨西哥。
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : As older people joined, it took a year or so and he’d convince the people that he was doing so much in the community and so why not rather than just tithe your twenty percent, why not sell your home, give the money to the church?
黛博拉·雷顿 (Deborah Layton),人民圣殿教成员、作家,《诱人的毒药》::随着老年人加入,他花了一年左右的时间才让人们相信他在社区做了很多事情,所以为什么不直接缴纳百分之二十的什一税,为什么不卖掉你的房子,把钱捐给教堂呢?
And that is what people began to do.
这就是人们开始做的事情。
Jim Jones (archival): : Now in this church, what have we done in a short time?
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::现在在这个教堂里,我们在短时间内做了什么?
We have four senior citizens’ homes that are the most innovating, the most beautiful you want to see.
我们有四所老年之家,它们是您想要看到的最创新、最美丽的。
Mike Touchette, Peoples Temple Member: : They had their own rooms, they had every need taken care of, they had their food provided.
Mike Touchette,人民圣殿教成员::他们有自己的房间,他们的一切需求都得到照顾,他们提供食物。
They were well looked after.
他们受到很好的照顾。
Jim Jones (archival): : Now my home is stone block and there’s not a piece of new furniture in it.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::现在我的家是石头砌成的,里面没有一件新家具。
But our senior citizen homes, they’re elegant.
但我们的老年人之家却很优雅。
And that’s beautiful.
那很漂亮。
John R.
约翰·R。
Hall, Sociologist: : They were giving their life’s money and savings to the church, but in exchange, the church was agreeing to take care of them in the community, not just in a nursing home.
霍尔,社会学家:他们将毕生的金钱和积蓄捐给了教会,但作为交换,教会同意在社区中照顾他们,而不仅仅是在疗养院里。
Neva Sly Hargrave, Peoples Temple Member: : Well it got to the point where there were so many duties in the Temple that some people had to become full time.
涅瓦·斯莱·哈格雷夫 (Neva Sly Hargrave),人民圣殿教成员: 嗯,圣殿里的职责太多了,以至于有些人不得不全职工作。
So when you were full-time Temple, you worked about twenty hours a day.
所以当你在坦普尔全职工作时,你每天工作大约二十个小时。
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : My week kind of ran like this — I’d work my regular job on Mondays, you know, eight to five.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl)::我的一周是这样度过的 — 我每周一都做我的常规工作,你知道,八点到五点。
Then, I’d work on files.
然后,我会处理文件。
Kristine Kravitz, Peoples Temple Member: : There were people who ran rest homes.
克里斯汀·克拉维茨 (Kristine Kravitz),人民圣殿教成员::有人经营疗养院。
There were animals to be taken care of.
有动物需要照顾。
There were the publications.
有出版物。
Everybody had a job.
每个人都有工作。
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : Wednesday night we’d have a meeting in Redwood Valley and I’d go to the meeting for — until probably 10 or 10:30.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl)::周三晚上,我们将在红杉谷开会,我会去参加会议 — 大概持续到 10 点或 10:30。
Neva Sly Hargrave, Peoples Temple Member: : We turned our paychecks over every time we got paid.
Neva Sly Hargrave,人民圣殿教成员::我们每次拿到工资时都会上交工资。
And then we got an allowance — five dollars a week.
然后我们得到了津贴——每周五美元。
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : And Friday, I’d go to work and I’d get off of work, and I’d hop on the bus or drive the bus to San Francisco.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl): 周五,我去上班,下班后,我会跳上公共汽车或驾驶公共汽车前往旧金山。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : If I had to go to the doctor, it was taken care of.
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter)::如果我必须去看医生,也会得到照顾。
If I had to go to the dentist, it was taken care of.
如果我必须去看牙医,也会得到解决。
If I needed clothes, that was taken care of.
如果我需要衣服,也会得到照顾。
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : And often on Saturday night, we’d have planning commission meetings until 2 or 3 in the morning.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl): 通常在周六晚上,我们的规划委员会会议会持续到凌晨 2 点或 3 点。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : We would always try to let each other know the next day, “Well, how long did you sleep?” “Oh, I slept two hours.” “You only slept two?
小休·福特森 (Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员::第二天我们总是会尽力让对方知道,“嗯,你睡了多长时间?” “哦,我睡了两个小时。” “你只睡了两个?
Well, I slept an hour-and-a-half.”
嗯,我睡了一个半小时。”
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : And then Sunday, we’d have a Sunday morning service and then around one o’clock hop on the buses, drive up, drop people off in San Francisco, and drive up to Redwood Valley.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl):然后周日,我们会举行周日早上的礼拜,然后在一点左右跳上公共汽车,开车前往,在旧金山下车,然后开车前往红杉谷。
Joyce Shaw-Houston, Peoples Temple Member: : The longest I ever stayed awake was six days, and that’s with no coffee, no nothing.
乔伊斯·肖-休斯顿(Joyce Shaw-Houston),人民圣殿教成员::我最长的不睡觉时间是六天,而且没有喝咖啡,什么也没有。
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : It changed over the years, but it was always busy.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl):多年来,这里发生了变化,但总是很忙。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : Being in an environment where you’re constantly up, you’re constantly busy, and you’re made to feel guilty if you take too many luxuries like sleeping — you tend to not really think for yourself.
小休·福特森 (Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员::生活在一个不断起床、不断忙碌的环境中,如果你享受太多像睡觉这样的奢侈品,你就会感到内疚——你往往不会真正为自己思考。
And I did allow Jones to think for me because I figured that he had the better plan.
我确实允许琼斯为我思考,因为我认为他有更好的计划。
I gave my rights up to him.
我把我的权利让给了他。
As many others did.
正如许多其他人所做的那样。
Jim Jones (archival): : Edie.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::伊迪。
Fingers, are your fingers numb in your right hand?
手指,你右手的手指麻木了吗?
Reach the fingers out that are bothering you.
伸出那些困扰你的手指。
Now, is the pain gone?
现在,疼痛消失了吗?
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : There was a senior citizen and we nicknamed her Power.
Hue Fortson Jr.,人民圣殿教成员::有一位老人,我们给她起了个绰号“力量”。
He would have her to come up in the midst of one of his meetings, and she used to say, “The man got power.
他会让她参加他的一次会议,她常常说:“这个人有权力。
The man got power, ya’ll.” And the whole place would just go wild.
这个人有权力,你会的。”整个地方都会变得疯狂。
Jim Jones (archival): : Take your glasses off.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::摘下你的眼镜。
Let’s just dare in our faith.
让我们勇敢地相信我们的信仰。
Now look at my face.
现在看看我的脸。
I love you, the people love you, most importantly Christ loves you.
我爱你,人们爱你,最重要的是基督爱你。
What do you see?
你看到了什么?
Neva Sly Hargrave, Peoples Temple Member: : One of the most incredible healings, to me, was this little old lady and she was in a wheelchair.
Neva Sly Hargrave,人民圣殿教成员::对我来说,最令人难以置信的治愈之一是这位坐在轮椅上的小老太太。
Jim said, “Darlin’, you know, today is your day.
吉姆说:“亲爱的,你知道,今天是你的日子。
We’re going to — you’re going to get healed today.” He said, “We’re going to — we’re going to heal those legs of yours.
我们将会——今天你就会痊愈。”他说:“我们要——我们要治愈你的腿。
You’re going to walk again.” And the whole auditorium went totally crazy.
你又要走路了。”整个礼堂彻底疯狂了。
Jim Jones (archival): : Come forth, my dear.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::出来吧,亲爱的。
Stand up.
起来。
Take that step.
迈出这一步。
Bless your heart.
祝福你的心。
Take that step.
迈出这一步。
Neva Sly Hargrave, Peoples Temple Member: : And she takes this real slow, shaky step.
涅瓦·斯莱·哈格雷夫(Neva Sly Hargrave),人民圣殿教成员:她迈出的这一步非常缓慢、摇摇欲坠。
She said, “I can feel it.” He said, “Yes, I know you can feel it.
她说:“我能感觉到。”他说:“是的,我知道你能感觉到。
Now take your other leg and do it.” And so another real slow, shaky step and he says, “Now I want you to walk toward me.”
现在把你的另一条腿也开始做吧。”于是他又迈出了缓慢而颤抖的一步,说道:“现在我要你朝我走来。”
Jim Jones (archival): : Move forward.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::继续前进。
Move forward.
继续前进。
Move forward, darlin’.
向前迈进,亲爱的。
You can do it.
你可以做到的。
Neva Sly Hargrave, Peoples Temple Member: : And she starts taking forward steps.
Neva Sly Hargrave,人民圣殿教成员::她开始向前迈进。
And pretty soon she is walking.
很快她就能走路了。
And she starts walking up one of the aisles.
她开始沿着其中一条过道走去。
And pretty soon she’s running.
很快她就开始跑步了。
Well, by this time the whole congregation’s running down these aisles with us — we’re all just running around the aisles, just hoopin’ and hollerin’ up a storm.
好吧,到了这个时候,整个会众都和我们一起沿着这些过道奔跑——我们都只是绕着过道奔跑,只是在风暴中呼喊和呼喊。
Later, I found out that this person that I had seen healed and cried with was really one of the secretaries, made up to look crippled and blind.
后来我才知道,那个跟我一起治愈、一起哭泣的人,真的是一位秘书,化妆成一副瘸子和瞎子的样子。
Jim Jones (singing, archival): : Never shall forget what He’s done for me.
吉姆·琼斯(歌唱,档案)::永远不会忘记他为我所做的一切。
Oh, what’s he done for me.
哦,他为我做了什么。
Oh, what he’s done for me.
哦,他为我做了什么。
Oh, what he’s done for me.
哦,他为我做了什么。
I never shall forget what he’s done for me.
我永远不会忘记他为我所做的一切。
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : For those people that hadn’t grown up in the apostolic world, Jim would say, you know — “I know this is different for you.
黛博拉·雷顿 (Deborah Layton),人民圣殿教成员、《诱惑毒药》作者::对于那些没有在使徒世界长大的人,吉姆会说,你知道 — “我知道这对你来说是不同的。
But for people to come from extremely religious backgrounds — so that I can bring them forward to the message that’s so important for all of us today and that is activism — then I need to speak on each person’s level.”
但对于来自极端宗教背景的人来说——这样我就可以向他们传达对我们今天所有人都非常重要的信息,那就是行动主义——那么我需要在每个人的层面上发言。”
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : He said, “A lot of you people, you Christian people coming in, you’re so hung-up on this Bible.” He said, “This black book has held down black people for the last two-hundred years.” He said, “But I’m going to show you this has no power.” So he leaned way back like a football player and he flung it.
小休·福特森 (Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员:他说,“你们很多人,你们进来的基督徒,都对这本圣经如此着迷。”他说:“这本黑书在过去的两百年里一直压制着黑人。”他说:“但我要告诉你这没有力量。”于是他像足球运动员一样向后倾斜,然后把球扔了出去。
And when he flung it and let it go, the place got dead quiet like.
当他把它扔出去并放开时,这个地方变得死一般的安静。
And he waited until it hit the floor — POW!
他一直等到它落地——战俘!
When it hit the floor, he stood and he looked back and forth.
当它落地时,他站起来,前后看了看。
He said, “Now, did you see any lightning come from the sky and strike me dead?”
他说:“现在,你有没有看到有闪电从天而降,把我劈死了?”
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : You’re gonna help yourself, or you’ll get no help!
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::你要帮助自己,否则你将得不到任何帮助!
There’s only one hope of glory…That’s within you!
荣耀的希望只有一个……那就是你的内心!
Nobody’s gonna come out of the sky!
没有人会从天而降!
There’s no heaven up there…We’ll have to make heaven down here!
上面没有天堂……我们必须在这里创造天堂!
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : And he said, “What you need to believe in is what you can see.” He said, “If you see me as your friend, I’ll be your friend.
小休·福特森 (Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员::他说,“你需要相信的是你所看到的。”他说:“如果你把我当作你的朋友,我就会成为你的朋友。
As you see me as your father, I’ll be your father, for those of you that don’t have a father.” He said, “If you see me as your savior, I’ll be your savior.” He said, even so, “If you see me as your God, I’ll be your God.”
当你们视我为你们的父亲时,我也会成为你们的父亲,对于你们这些没有父亲的人来说。”他说:“如果你视我为你的救世主,我就会成为你的救世主。”尽管如此,他还是说:“如果你视我为你的上帝,我就会成为你的上帝。”
Janet Shular, Peoples Temple Member: : People lifted Jim to a level of adoration because many believed that he had healed them of cancer.
人民圣殿教成员珍妮特·舒勒 (Janet Shular):人们对吉姆的崇拜达到了一定程度,因为许多人相信他治愈了他们的癌症。
Many believed that he had saved their son or daughter from an automobile accident.
许多人相信他从一场车祸中救了他们的儿子或女儿。
There were many reasons for many people to admire, love, excuse, overlook much of what Jim did.
许多人有很多理由钦佩、喜爱、原谅、忽视吉姆所做的大部分事情。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : I had been in the Temple for just a few months.
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter)::我来圣殿才几个月。
I was sent backstage in Los Angeles to — to get something for somebody, I don’t remember what.
我被派到洛杉矶后台去——为某人拿点东西,我不记得是什么了。
And Jones happened to be coming out of his room and he said, “Hi Tim, how are you doing?
琼斯碰巧从他的房间里出来,他说:“嗨,蒂姆,你好吗?
How is it going?
最近好吗?
How do you like everything so far?” And, “Oh, I like it a lot.” And, “you know, it’s really cool.” I don’t remember exactly.
到目前为止,你觉得一切怎么样?”并且,“哦,我非常喜欢它。”而且,“你知道,这真的很酷。”我记不太清楚了。
And he reached up and kind of patted the back of my neck, and he said, “I’ll [expletive] you in the ass if you want.” And I just kind of stammered, “No.” You know, “No.” And he said, “Well, you know, if you ever want that, that’s okay, just let me know and we’ll do that.”
他伸手拍了拍我的后颈,说道:“如果你愿意的话,我会[咒骂]你的屁股。”我只是结结巴巴地说:“不。”你知道,“不”。他说:“好吧,你知道,如果你想要那样,没关系,只要告诉我,我们就会这么做。”
Joyce Shaw-Houston, Peoples Temple Member: : Jim said that all of us were homosexuals, everyone except — he was the only heterosexual on the planet.
乔伊斯·肖-休斯顿(Joyce Shaw-Houston),人民圣殿教成员::吉姆说我们所有人都是同性恋者,除了他——他是这个星球上唯一的异性恋者。
And that the women were all lesbians and the guys were all gay.
而且这些女人都是女同性恋,男人都是同性恋。
And so anyone that showed any interest in sex was just compensating.
所以任何对性表现出兴趣的人都只是补偿。
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : What he explained to each of us, and in sermons, was that sexual relationships were very selfish and they took away from the focus of the church — and that was to help others.
黛博拉·雷顿 (Deborah Layton),人民圣殿教成员、作家、《诱惑毒药》::他在布道中向我们每个人解释的是,性关系是非常自私的,它们分散了教会的焦点——那就是帮助他人。
Jim was not celibate.
吉姆并不是独身者。
Nobody knew that until perhaps it was their time to find out.
没有人知道这一点,直到他们找到答案的时候了。
What he spoke from the pulpit wasn’t what he did behind the scenes.
他在讲坛上所说的并不是他在幕后所做的。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : I remember one night, one of the brothers had stood up and said, “You know, I think everybody that wants Father to [expletive] them in the butt, you need to take an enema first.” I’m telling you the truth man, I’m telling you the truth.
小休·福特森 (Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员::我记得有一天晚上,其中一位兄弟站起来说:“你知道,我认为每个希望父亲[咒骂]他们屁股的人,都需要先灌肠。”我正在告诉你真相,伙计,我正在告诉你真相。
And then the question went on, “Well, how many of you in here have had him to do that?” And whether they were lying or just following suit, hands of the men just went up around the room.
然后问题继续说道:“好吧,你们这里有多少人让他这么做过?”无论他们是在撒谎还是只是效仿,这些人的手都会在房间里举起。
And I’m sitting there petrified because I’m like, “Is this what it’s leading to, that I’m supposed to get to?” And I’m thinking, “hmmm.” But I played it off like, “Okay, I’m being cool.
我坐在那里,惊呆了,因为我想,“这就是我应该达到的结果吗?”我在想,“嗯。”但我的表现是:“好吧,我很酷。
Okay, if that’s where they at, that’s not where I’m at.” Because I’m thinking, “My wife — I’m happy with my wife.
好吧,如果那是他们所在的位置,那就不是我所在的位置。”因为我在想,“我的妻子——我对我的妻子很满意。
With this sleep I’m not getting, I’m not getting enough anyway.”
我睡不着,反正我还睡不够。”
Grace Stoen, Peoples Temple Member: : One of the powerful things that Jim used, to keep us to not think, was that we were never really allowed to speak with one another.
格蕾丝·斯托恩(Grace Stoen),人民圣殿教成员::吉姆用来让我们不去思考的有力手段之一是,我们从来不被真正允许彼此交谈。
I’d look around and I’d say, “Am I the only one that feels this way?” I learned, eventually, not to say anything to anyone.
我环顾四周,然后说:“我是唯一有这种感觉的人吗?”最终我学会了不要对任何人说任何话。
Jim Jones (archival): : We had a lady who visited us a week ago here and was speaking to one at the door, and she was a member of a prominent church, a pastor’s wife, and she said, “I think that the poor should be made to control how many children they bring into the earth.” You remember?
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::我们有一位女士一周前来这里拜访我们,并在门口与一个人交谈,她是一家著名教会的成员,也是一位牧师的妻子,她说,“我认为应该让穷人控制他们带多少孩子到地球上。”你还记得吗?
Some leading scientists say, “We have to have euthanasia.” Oh, no. Oh, no. Who’s going to decide who and when a person’s going to die?
一些顶尖科学家说:“我们必须实施安乐死。”哦,不。哦,不。谁来决定一个人的死因和时间?
We must never allow that because this is the kind of thing that ushers in the terror of a Hitler’s Germany.
我们决不能允许这种情况发生,因为这种事情会引发希特勒德国的恐怖。
We must not allow these kind of things to enter our consciousness.
我们决不能让这类事情进入我们的意识。
Jim Jones Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : My father used to tell me that people’s lives — sixty percent of people’s lives — were made on emotional decisions.
小吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones Jr.),人民圣殿教成员::我父亲曾经告诉我,人们的生活——百分之六十的生活——是由情感决定决定的。
Make your decisions — sixty percent of your decisions — based on logic, fact and reason, and allow emotion to be the secondary motivator.
做出你的决定——百分之六十的决定——基于逻辑、事实和理由,并让情感成为次要动机。
And — we were Star Trek fans.
而且——我们是《星际迷航》的粉丝。
He and I were Star Trek fans, and he used to always say, “Just vulcanize yourself.
他和我都是《星际迷航》的粉丝,他过去总是说:“把你自己硫化吧。
Just vulcanize yourself.”
就让你自己硫化吧。”
Joyce Shaw-Houston, Peoples Temple Member: : We were celebrating New Years Eve.
乔伊斯·肖-休斯顿 (Joyce Shaw-Houston),人民圣殿教成员::我们正在庆祝除夕夜。
There were about a hundred and twenty people.
人数大约有一百二十人。
Neva Sly Hargrave, Peoples Temple Member: : Jim started talking about our cause and he said, “This punch is going to be passed out to everybody here.” We all drank our punch and then he said, “You just drank poison.
Neva Sly Hargrave,人民圣殿教成员:吉姆开始谈论我们的事业,他说,“这一拳将传递给这里的每个人。”我们都喝了潘趣酒,然后他说:“你刚刚喝了毒药。
And we will all die, right here in the church, together as one.” The women were just screaming, “Oh no, my baby, my baby,” and others just sat there.
我们都会死,就在教堂里,一起死。”女人们只是尖叫,“哦,不,我的宝贝,我的宝贝”,其他人只是坐在那里。
And all of a sudden, Jim says, “That wasn’t poison you drank.”
吉姆突然说道:“你喝的不是毒药。”
Joyce Shaw-Houston, Peoples Temple Member: : Jim said that this was a test of loyalty.
乔伊斯·肖-休斯顿,人民圣殿教成员::吉姆说这是对忠诚度的考验。
He just wanted to see if we were truly committed to our cause, and that was how we would show it.
他只是想看看我们是否真正致力于我们的事业,而这就是我们表现出来的方式。
Janet Shular, Peoples Temple Member: : Well it wasn’t about our loyalty, because we were demonstrating loyalty all the time.
人民圣殿教成员 Janet Shular:嗯,这与我们的忠诚度无关,因为我们一直在表现出忠诚度。
Coming there, being there in the meetings, sitting, listening — you know, supporting, working.
来到那里,参加会议,坐下来,倾听——你知道,支持,工作。
And I thought it had a lot more to do with Jim’s sense of rehearsal.
我认为这与吉姆的排练感有很大关系。
Did he feel like he was potent and — and omnipotent enough to really get people to kill themselves when he said so?
当他这么说时,他是否觉得自己很强大,而且无所不能,足以真正让人们自杀?
And that frightened the hell out of me.
这把我吓坏了。
Tim Reiterman, Journalist: : Jim Jones, I think, realized that ultimately Ukiah was not the sort of climate where Peoples Temple would thrive.
蒂姆·雷特曼(Tim Reiterman),记者::我认为,吉姆·琼斯(Jim Jones)意识到,最终尤凯亚并不是人民圣殿教能够蓬勃发展的气候。
He wasn’t going to be gaining large numbers of members.
他不会获得大量会员。
He couldn’t declare himself to be a socialist god openly, certainly in a city like Ukiah.
他不能公开宣称自己是社会主义之神,尤其是在尤凯亚这样的城市。
Marshall Kilduff, Journalist: : In San Francisco, Jones walked in on a sort of a wild kind of party, where there was a lot of new faces and new sources of power.
记者马歇尔·基尔达夫:在旧金山,琼斯参加了一场疯狂的派对,那里有很多新面孔和新的权力来源。
And there was a sort of feeling that smaller groups — neighborhood groups, activist groups — had a bigger chance.
人们有一种感觉,较小的团体——邻里团体、激进团体——有更大的机会。
Rebecca Moore, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : I think the early sixties had been a time of great optimism; there was a belief that we could change the world through social movements.
人民圣殿教成员亲属丽贝卡·摩尔:我认为六十年代初期是一个非常乐观的时期;人们相信我们可以通过社会运动改变世界。
With various assassinations — Malcolm X, Medgar Evers, Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy — there was definitely a feeling of hopelessness.
马尔科姆·X、梅德加·埃弗斯、马丁·路德·金、罗伯特·肯尼迪等各种暗杀事件无疑让人感到绝望。
The message of Peoples Temple was, “No, the dream is alive.”
人民圣殿教传达的信息是:“不,梦想还活着。”
Vernon Gosney, Peoples Temple Member: : If you had a demonstration in San Francisco and you wanted people to show up, Jim Jones — the Peoples Temple — could be there in twenty minutes, with hundreds of people.
弗农·戈斯尼 (Vernon Gosney),人民圣殿教成员:如果您在旧金山举行示威活动并且希望人们出现,吉姆·琼斯(人民圣殿教)可能会在二十分钟内到达,有数百人参加。
And we would be enthusiastic.
我们会很热情。
There was an attitude of, “We can change the world.” And that’s what we wanted to do.
有一种态度是:“我们可以改变世界。”这就是我们想做的。
Marshall Kilduff, Journalist: : These people would be on time, they’d be polite and nice.
马歇尔·基尔达夫(Marshall Kilduff),记者::这些人会准时,他们会很有礼貌而且友善。
They were a span of ages, a span of races.
他们跨越了不同的时代、不同的种族。
They were tailor-made for a political rally.
它们是为政治集会量身定制的。
To a politician, it was like a birthday cake times twelve.
对于一个政客来说,这就像一个十二倍的生日蛋糕。
Willie Brown, California State Assemblyman (archival): : You have managed to make the many persons associated with Peoples Temple part of a family.
威利·布朗 (Willie Brown),加利福尼亚州议员(档案): 您成功地使许多与人民圣殿教有关的人成为了一个大家庭的一部分。
If you are in need of healthcare, you get healthcare.
如果您需要医疗保健,您就会获得医疗保健。
If you’re in need of legal assistance of some sort, you get that.
如果您需要某种法律援助,您会得到的。
If you’re in need of transportation, you get that.
如果您需要交通,您就可以得到。
And that’s the kind of religious thing that I am excited about, and have some respect for.
这就是令我兴奋并尊重的宗教事物。
Tim Reiterman, Journalist: : When vice presidential candidate, Walter Mondale, came to San Francisco, Jim Jones was part of the entourage that boarded his private jet.
记者蒂姆·雷特曼:当副总统候选人沃尔特·蒙代尔来到旧金山时,吉姆·琼斯是登上他私人飞机的随行人员之一。
When Rosalyn Carter came to San Francisco, she gave Jim Jones a private audience.
当罗莎琳·卡特来到旧金山时,她私下会见了吉姆·琼斯。
Jim Jones had political power that few people, let alone preachers, could have imagined.
吉姆·琼斯拥有很少有人(更不用说传教士)能够想象的政治权力。
Vernon Gosney, Peoples Temple Member: : Jim Jones represented the Peoples Temple as a progressive movement that was threatened.
弗农·戈斯尼,人民圣殿教成员:吉姆·琼斯将人民圣殿教视为一个受到威胁的进步运动。
That there were outside forces who didn’t want us to do what we were doing.
有外部势力不希望我们做我们正在做的事情。
And it was the government.
这是政府。
The government was infiltrating and wiretapping and trying to kill people or assassinate people.
政府正在渗透、窃听并试图杀人或暗杀。
That’s what was happening.
这就是正在发生的事情。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : He was always paranoid that someone was going to get in and try to kill him — that they had two people that had dedicated their lives, that they were going to jump in front of Jones and take the bullet, kind of like the secret service so to speak.
小休·福特森(Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员:他总是偏执地担心有人会进来并试图杀死他——他们有两个人奉献了自己的生命,他们会跳到琼斯面前并接受子弹,可以说有点像特勤局。
Neva Sly Hargrave, Peoples Temple Member: : Jim started changing a lot in the seventies.
Neva Sly Hargrave,人民圣殿教成员:吉姆在七十年代开始发生了很大的变化。
He was taking drugs.
他正在吸毒。
I think he said it was his kidneys at the time.
我想他当时说的是他的肾脏。
And he was getting more and more paranoid.
而且他变得越来越偏执。
Incredibly paranoid.
令人难以置信的偏执。
Vernon Gosney, Peoples Temple Member: : There was always threats.
人民圣殿教成员弗农·戈斯尼 (Vernon Gosney):威胁总是存在。
Always, always, always, always threats.
永远,永远,永远,永远威胁。
They were there.
他们就在那里。
They were just about to try to destroy us if we weren’t always viligant [sic] about our movement.
如果我们不始终对自己的行动保持警惕,他们就会试图摧毁我们。
There was a fire in the San Francisco Temple.
旧金山圣殿发生火灾。
The Temple was burned down and had to be rebuilt.
圣殿被烧毁,必须重建。
The fire proved they are out to get us.
火灾证明他们是来抓我们的。
They so don’t want us to do what we’re doing; they’ve burned down the Temple.
他们非常不希望我们做我们正在做的事情;他们烧毁了圣殿。
They’ll do anything to keep us from doing what we’re doing.
他们会尽一切努力阻止我们做我们正在做的事情。
So we have to be even stronger.
所以我们必须变得更加坚强。
Jim Jones (archival): : What about the fact that the Ku Klux Klan has increased one hundred times in its membership?
吉姆·琼斯(档案): 三K党的成员数量增加了一百倍,这又如何呢?
Where?
哪里?
Not Mississippi, I’m talking about New York State.
我说的不是密西西比州,而是纽约州。
It’s the church’s duty to have a place of protection for its people.
教会有责任为信徒提供一个保护场所。
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : December of ’75, ninety of us went by plane, into Guyana, and saw where we were building the community there.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl):75 年 12 月,我们九十个人乘飞机前往圭亚那,参观了我们在那里建设社区的地方。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : See, they’ve made progress on the road and leveled it, clear in to five miles.
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕):看,他们在道路上取得了进展,并将其夷为平地,距离五英里。
And you’re seeing in the distance, housing complexes, that are being built.
你可以看到远处正在建造的住宅区。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : What I saw that creation as being was building a city where we could move and raise our children, outside of the oppression and the racism of the United States of America.
蒂姆·卡特,人民圣殿教成员::我所看到的创造是建造一座城市,让我们可以在美利坚合众国的压迫和种族主义之外移动和抚养我们的孩子。
Mike Touchette, Peoples Temple Member: : When I first went into Jonestown, it was just a footpath in the rainforest.
Mike Touchette,人民圣殿教成员::当我第一次进入琼斯镇时,那只是雨林中的一条小路。
We had Indians in front of us with machetes, and we had Indians behind us with machetes.
我们前面有印第安人拿着砍刀,我们后面也有印第安人拿着砍刀。
Three-hundred miles into the jungle, we literally built a city in the middle of the jungle, in the middle of nowhere.
深入丛林三百英里,我们在丛林中央、荒无人烟的地方建造了一座城市。
Mike Touchette, Peoples Temple Member (archival): : Hello family.
Mike Touchette,人民圣殿教成员(档案): :家人大家好。
It’s been a — it’s such a joy and great pleasure being here, because of Father’s love.
由于父亲的爱,来到这里真是一种快乐和巨大的快乐。
We are trying to make — and we are making a place of refuge for all of you here.
我们正在努力为你们所有人打造一个避难所。
There is no — nothing at all that I would — that I have any holdings here.
我在这里没有任何财产——我根本不希望有任何财产。
I do not want to go back in any way, shape or form to the States.
我不想以任何方式、形式或形式回到美国。
I love it here and this is the place where all of you are going to be.
我喜欢这里,这是你们所有人都会去的地方。
Kristine Kravitz, Peoples Temple Member: : Pretty soon we were seeing film footage of the first crew that went down there.
克里斯汀·克拉维茨 (Kristine Kravitz),人民圣殿教成员: 很快我们就看到了第一批前往那里的工作人员的电影片段。
We all wanted to go.
我们都想去。
I wanted to go.
我想去。
It looked like — like freedom.
它看起来就像——就像自由。
Jim Jones (archival): : Now, will each of you give a very fond embrace, a salutary kiss of greeting to your neighbor — and let’s fill this atmosphere with warmth and love.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::现在,你们每个人都可以给邻居一个非常深情的拥抱和一个问候之吻吗?让我们让这种气氛充满温暖和爱。
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : We thought of ourselves as one big family that did handle our own discipline.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl):我们认为自己是一个大家庭,有自己的纪律。
I was in a lot of the meetings where people were spanked or beaten, and I was slapped once, also in a public meeting.
我参加过很多会议,有人被打屁股或殴打,我也被打过一次,也是在公开会议上。
Janet Shular, Peoples Temple Member: : People were brought up front and asked — had to tell who they had slept with and who they had sneaked off to a restaurant with.
人民圣殿教成员珍妮特·舒勒 (Janet Shular)::人们被带到前面并被询问 - 必须说出他们和谁睡过以及和谁偷偷去餐馆。
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : There wasn’t a week that went by that I wasn’t called up on the floor because of my behavior, because of my attitude.
斯坦利·克莱顿(Stanley Clayton),人民圣殿教成员::我每周都因为我的行为、我的态度而没有被征召上场。
“Stanley Clayton, up, front, center.”
“斯坦利·克莱顿,上、前、中。”
Janet Shular, Peoples Temple Member: : He would ask people, “What do you think we ought to do with them?
人民圣殿教成员珍妮特·舒勒 (Janet Shular):他会问人们,“你认为我们应该对他们做什么?
Do you think they ought to get a good boxing?” And then he’d get a resounding roar, “Yes!”
你认为他们应该打一场好拳击吗?”然后他就听到一声响亮的吼叫:“是!”
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : You might fight five people in one night.
Stanley Clayton,人民圣殿教成员::你可能会在一晚上与五个人战斗。
Well, you know, you’re very tired!
好吧,你知道,你很累!
I’ve seen situations where they actually knocked the person out and actually took water and threw water back on him, woke him up, and whooped him some more.
我见过这样的情况:他们实际上把人打晕了,然后拿水泼回他身上,把他吵醒,然后又对他大喊大叫。
Neva Sly Hargrave, Peoples Temple Member: : I had welts really bad, and when I went to work the next day, one of my employees noticed the welts when I sat down.
Neva Sly Hargrave,人民圣殿教成员::我的伤痕非常严重,当我第二天去上班时,我的一名员工在我坐下时注意到了伤痕。
And I just broke down and told her.
我崩溃了并告诉了她。
She didn’t even know I was Peoples Temple.
她甚至不知道我是人民圣殿教。
And she called the manager of the station up and they talked to me about leaving.
她给车站经理打电话,他们跟我商量离开。
I couldn’t say goodbye to my son or my husband because at that point, it was like the Gestapo — the families were turning in each other.
我无法向我的儿子或丈夫说再见,因为那时,就像盖世太保一样——这些家庭正在互相揭发。
If I had said goodbye, one of them would have reported me.
如果我说了再见,他们中的一个就会举报我。
Joyce Shaw-Houston, Peoples Temple Member: : It’s kind of like when you get married and you have this ideal.
乔伊斯·肖-休斯顿(Joyce Shaw-Houston),人民圣殿教成员::这有点像当你结婚时,你就有了这个理想。
And you’re, you know, you’re in love and then — you know, the honeymoon wears off and reality sets in.
你,你知道,你恋爱了,然后——你知道,蜜月过去了,现实开始了。
And most people, once the going gets rough, don’t jump out immediately.
大多数人一旦遇到困难,不会立即跳出来。
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : In one planning commission meeting, Jim was getting notes — kind of love notes — from one of the members on the planning commission.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl):在一次规划委员会会议上,吉姆从规划委员会的一位成员那里收到了笔记——一种情书。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : Jones is sitting there calmly and so another lady said, “Well, I don’t know why you keep doing that.
小休·福特森 (Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员::琼斯平静地坐在那里,另一位女士说:“好吧,我不知道你为什么继续这样做。
What makes you think you’ve got something that he wants anyway?” And so another woman says, “Well, you know what?
是什么让你觉得你已经得到了他想要的东西?”于是另一个女人说:“好吧,你知道吗?
You ought to just take off your clothes and show him what you got.
你应该脱掉衣服,给他看你得到的东西。
You ain’t got nothing.” And so, by this time, they looked back to Jones and so he looks over his glasses, and he nods with approval.
你什么都没有。”所以,这时候,他们回头看向琼斯,他透过眼镜看了看,点头表示赞同。
“Yeah, that’s a good idea.”
“是的,这是个好主意。”
Juanell Smart, Peoples Temple Member: : She was to be totally naked and she was down to nothing but her skin — not even any shoes on, you know — no bra, no panties, no nothing.
胡安内尔·斯马特(Juanell Smart),人民圣殿教成员:她要完全赤身裸体,除了皮肤什么都没有——甚至连鞋子都不穿,你知道——没有胸罩,没有内裤,什么都没有。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : Then they begin to say what her breasts looked like, her stomach, butt, vagina, you name it.
Hue Fortson Jr.,人民圣殿教成员::然后他们开始说她的乳房是什么样子,她的肚子,屁股,阴道,凡是你能想到的。
Everything they could think of, they were saying.
他们能想到的一切,他们都说了。
By this time, her face is red, her body’s almost red from embarrassment, and I noticed something.
这时候,她的脸已经红了,全身都羞得通红了,我注意到了一些事情。
Jones was sitting, looking over his sunglasses, but he had a smile on his face like he’s really enjoying this woman being torn down.
琼斯坐着,透过太阳镜看着,但他脸上挂着微笑,好像他真的很享受这个女人被撕碎的感觉。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : I have a conscious memory of sitting there, thinking to myself, “This is wrong.” And I didn’t do a damned thing to stand up and say, “This is wrong.”
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter)::我有意识地记得自己坐在那里,心里想:“这是错误的。”我并没有做任何该死的事来站起来说:“这是错误的。”
Jordan Vilchez, Peoples Temple Member: : It’s like a child in a dysfunctional family.
乔丹·维尔切斯(Jordan Vilchez),人民圣殿教成员::这就像一个功能失调的家庭中的孩子。
On a certain level, it’s normal, you know?
在某种程度上,这是正常的,你知道吗?
I just kind of took everything in stride.
我对一切都泰然处之。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : But then we felt like we had gotten involved and gotten in so deep that it was actually no way out.
小休·福特森 (Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员: :但后来我们觉得我们已经陷入其中,而且陷得太深了,实际上已经没有出路了。
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : I had traveled on Bus Seven, which was Jim’s bus.
黛博拉·雷顿 (Deborah Layton),人民圣殿教成员、《诱惑毒药》作者::我乘坐七号巴士,那是吉姆的巴士。
And he sat down next to me.
他坐在我旁边。
And I was sitting there and I thought, “That’s weird — it smells like alcohol next to me.” And he leaned over and he said, “Do you know what you do to me?” He had informed me that I was to come in — on Bus Seven, there was a room in the back for just him.
我坐在那里,心想:“这很奇怪——我旁边闻起来像酒精味。”他俯身说道:“你知道你对我做了什么吗?”他告诉我要进来——在七号巴士上,后面有一个房间只供他使用。
He had books.
他有书。
He had a desk.
他有一张桌子。
He had a bed.
他有一张床。
When everyone got off the bus at the rest stop, I went into his little room and I sat there and waited for him.
当大家在休息站下车时,我走进他的小房间,坐在那儿等他。
And finally he opened the door, and without any talk or anything, he just pulled down his pants and — and had sex with me.
最后他打开了门,没有说话,也没有做任何事,他只是脱下了裤子,然后——和我发生了性关系。
And as I lay there frightened, not sure what to do, and as I shivered, he’d say to me, “This is for you.
当我害怕地躺在那里,不知道该怎么办,当我发抖时,他会对我说:“这是给你的。
I’m doing this for you, Debbie.”
我这样做是为了你,黛比。”
Marshall Kilduff, Journalist: : Well, in 1975 it was a mayoral election in San Francisco.
马歇尔·基尔达夫(Marshall Kilduff),记者::嗯,1975 年是旧金山的市长选举。
A conservative candidate and a liberal candidate, George Moscone.
乔治·莫斯康 (George Moscone) 是一位保守派候选人和一位自由派候选人。
Jones had several hundred people who would go door-to-door Election Day.
琼斯有数百人在选举日挨家挨户拜访。
Instead of a group that might give you twenty or thirty of these people — or a hundred — you had three or four hundred.
而不是一个可能给你二十或三十人——或者一百人——的团队,而是三四百人。
John R.
约翰·R。
Hall, Sociologist: : The Moscone election was very close.
霍尔,社会学家::莫斯康的选举结果非常接近。
The margin of victory was probably no more than 4,000.
胜率恐怕不会超过四千。
So you had to credit a big chunk of decisive votes to Peoples Temple.
因此,你必须将很大一部分决定性选票归功于人民圣殿教。
Rebecca Moore, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : The reward for the election of George Moscone was the appointment of Jim Jones as Chairman of the City Housing Authority.
人民圣殿教成员亲属丽贝卡·摩尔::乔治·莫斯康当选的回报是任命吉姆·琼斯为市住房管理局主席。
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : What was once a really boring meeting, all of a sudden, became like really interesting when Jim Jones became the head of it — because we all came down on the buses.
黛博拉·雷顿 (Deborah Layton),人民圣殿教成员、《诱惑毒药》作者::当吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones) 成为会议负责人时,曾经非常无聊的会议突然变得非常有趣 - 因为我们都在公共汽车上下来。
And we were instructed that when Jim came in, we stood, and when he left or spoke, we’d stand and clap.
我们被告知,当吉姆进来时,我们站起来,当他离开或讲话时,我们会站起来鼓掌。
Marshall Kilduff, Journalist: : The sheer staginess, the controlled atmosphere that sort of enclosed this guy, made him so unusual, so different than the norm, that it made me very curious.
马歇尔·基尔达夫(Marshall Kilduff),记者::这家伙身上那种纯粹的呆板和受控的气氛,让他如此不寻常,如此不同于平常,这让我非常好奇。
My biggest problem was getting somebody to sort of talk to me about the Church in kind of conversational terms.
我最大的问题是让有人以对话的方式与我谈论教会。
Grace Stoen, Peoples Temple Member: : I had become friends with some of the various defectors, and one of the defectors told me that she was going to speak publicly about Jones.
格蕾丝·斯托恩(Grace Stoen),人民圣殿教成员::我和一些叛逃者成为了朋友,其中一位叛逃者告诉我,她将公开谈论琼斯。
And I said to her, “Well, if you’re going to speak publicly — I’m going to speak with you.
我对她说:“好吧,如果你要公开讲话——我会和你谈谈。
I’m not going to let you do this alone.”
我不会让你一个人做这件事。”
Marshall Kilduff, Journalist: : I finally heard from some ex-members who heard I was interested in writing a story about the Temple for New West magazine, and they took a chance.
马歇尔·基尔达夫(Marshall Kilduff),记者::我终于收到一些前会员的来信,他们听说我有兴趣为《新西部》杂志写一篇关于圣殿的故事,他们抓住了机会。
They called me and some of them said, you know, “You don’t know nothing about the Church.
他们打电话给我,其中一些人说,你知道,“你对教会一无所知。
Wait until I tell you what I went through.”
等我告诉你我经历了什么。”
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : Before the article was going to break, Jim convinced the publisher that she needed to read it to him.
Deborah Layton,人民圣殿教成员、《诱惑毒药》作者::在文章即将发表之前,吉姆说服出版商让她读给他听。
He was on one phone and I was on — taping the other end of it, while somebody else listened on another one.
他在用一部电话,我在用录音机的另一端录音,而其他人则在用另一部电话监听。
Jim didn’t understand that there was no way he could talk her down from whatever this article was going to say.
吉姆不明白他无法说服她放弃这篇文章要说的内容。
And as she continues to read this article, he’s looking around the room at about five of us and you could tell that he’s becoming more and more anxious and as — and you know, his mouth becomes dryer and dryer.
当她继续读这篇文章时,他环顾房间里大约五个人,你可以看出他变得越来越焦虑,而且——你知道,他的嘴变得越来越干。
And he realizes that this article is going to be hugely damning, and it was midway through it he mouths to all of us in the room, “We’re leaving tonight.” They flew out to Guyana, six hours before that article was going to hit.
他意识到这篇文章将会非常具有毁灭性,在文章中途他对房间里的所有人说道:“我们今晚就要离开。”他们在这篇文章发表前六个小时飞往圭亚那。
Tim Reiterman, Journalist: : When Jim Jones decided that there was too much pressure, too much trouble to stay in San Francisco, he ordered the move to Jonestown and it happened almost overnight.
记者 Tim Reiterman:当吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones) 认为留在旧金山压力太大、麻烦太多时,他下令搬到琼斯镇,这几乎是在一夜之间发生的。
People were being taken to airports.
人们被送往机场。
There were people who were packing their belongings and leaving their homes — with virtually no explanation to their family members as to where they were going or why they were going.
有些人收拾行李离开家,几乎没有向家人解释他们要去哪里或为什么要去。
Fred Lewis came home and found that his wife had taken their seven children and gone to Guyana, along with all their possessions.
弗雷德·刘易斯回到家,发现他的妻子带着他们的七个孩子和所有财产去了圭亚那。
Eugene Smith, Peoples Temple Member: : My wife had gone over three months prior.
人民圣殿教成员尤金·史密斯 (Eugene Smith)::我的妻子在三个多月前就去世了。
And I was waiting on pins and needles, and I was talking to her probably twice a week on the hand radio and Leona Collier came up, “Ok, Eugene it’s your time, you’re going over.”
我如坐针毡地等待着,大约每周两次通过手持无线电与她交谈,利昂娜·科利尔走过来,“好吧,尤金,你的时间到了,你要过去了。”
Coming into Jonestown, you see a guard at the front gate and you’re all excited, you’re going down this road.
进入琼斯镇,你看到前门有一名警卫,你很兴奋,你要沿着这条路走。
The trailer comes to a stop and then you can see the wooden pathway that leads to the pavilion.
拖车停了下来,然后你就可以看到通往展馆的木板路。
And you’re just — you want to run, but you know, you just try — “Alright I’m gonna be cool.”
你只是——你想逃跑,但你知道,你只是尝试——“好吧,我会很酷的。”
And just as you reach the edge of the pavilion, people started rushing you that you knew.
当你到达展馆边缘时,人们开始向你冲来,你知道。
My wife was there.
我的妻子在那里。
Haven’t seen my mother in over a year or so.
已经有一年多没见到妈妈了。
And I’m just hugging people and it’s just — it’s like, I have arrived and everything is going to be okay now.
我只是拥抱人们,就像,我已经到了,现在一切都会好起来的。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member (archival): : I have never been so totally happy or fulfilled in my life.
蒂姆·卡特,人民圣殿教成员(档案)::我一生中从未如此完全幸福或满足。
I can’t begin to describe it.
我无法开始描述它。
You could sit here and talk all day long and no words could describe the peace, the beauty, the sense of accomplishment and responsibility and camaraderie that’s here.
你可以坐在这里聊一整天,没有任何言语可以形容这里的宁静、美丽、成就感、责任感和友情。
It’s overwhelming, it really is.
这是压倒性的,确实如此。
You can’t describe it.
你无法描述它。
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : You know, it’s just such an exciting time.
劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl),人民圣殿教成员::你知道,这真是一个激动人心的时刻。
Everything was new and unique and —- and just fun.
一切都是新的、独特的,而且很有趣。
You know, we just had fun with it as it grew.
你知道,随着它的成长,我们只是享受它的乐趣。
I just loved that we created what we ate, that we did all these jobs.
我只是喜欢我们创造了我们吃的东西,我们做了所有这些工作。
Male Peoples Temple Member (archival): : What you think about your friends back down in the States?
男性人民圣殿教成员(档案): :您对美国的朋友有何看法?
You think they should be here?
你认为他们应该在这里吗?
Male Peoples Temple Member (archival): : Do you want to share with them this morning?
男性人民圣殿教成员(档案): :今天早上你想跟他们分享吗?
Speak up!
说出来!
Jim Jones Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : When you don’t have anything, you own Jonestown — you are part of Jonestown.
小吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones Jr.),人民圣殿教成员::当你一无所有时,你就拥有了琼斯镇——你就是琼斯镇的一部分。
You were a shareholder of Jonestown if you were African American.
如果您是非裔美国人,您就是琼斯敦的股东。
It gave them the opportunity to — to really be a part of creating a utopia.
它让他们有机会真正成为创造乌托邦的一部分。
Relative of Peoples Temple Member (archival): : I think that Jim Jones took his group down there because he was afraid to face the publicity and answer the questions here in this country.
人民圣殿教成员的亲属(档案)::我认为吉姆·琼斯带他的小组去那里是因为他害怕在这个国家面对公众并回答问题。
I don’t think that he feels confident having people talk to their relatives.
我认为他对让人们与他们的亲戚交谈没有信心。
I think the only way he can survive and sustain what he started is to isolate all his followers from this country and from their families.
我认为他能够生存并维持他所开创的事业的唯一方法就是将他的所有追随者与这个国家及其家人隔离。
Marshall Kilduff, Journalist: : The Concerned Relatives were the ex-members who wanted other family members, still in the church, to know they could leave.
马歇尔·基尔达夫(Marshall Kilduff),记者::忧心忡忡的亲属是那些希望仍在教会的其他家庭成员知道他们可以离开的前成员。
They wanted them to feel that there was an outside world — that Jones was wrong about telling people they could never leave the church, and that they would be treated badly in the real world.
他们希望他们感觉到有一个外部世界——琼斯告诉人们他们永远不能离开教堂,并且他们在现实世界中会受到虐待,这是错误的。
Rebecca Moore, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : The Concerned Relatives promptedFCC investigation of Peoples Temple.
人民圣殿教成员亲属丽贝卡·摩尔 (Rebecca Moore)::有关亲属促使 FCC 对人民圣殿教进行调查。
They organized letter-writing campaigns to public officials, to members of Congress.
他们组织了给公职人员和国会议员的写信活动。
They were incredibly effective in mobilizing government and media interest in Peoples Temple.
他们非常有效地调动了政府和媒体对人民圣殿教的兴趣。
Former Peoples Temple Member (archival): : He was talking integration.
前人民圣殿教成员(档案)::他说的是融合。
He was talking helping people.
他在谈论帮助人们。
He was talking better this and better that.
他说得这个更好那个更好。
Male Reporter (archival): : What about now?
男记者(档案)::那现在呢?
What’s your impression now?
现在你的印象如何?
Former Peoples Temple Member (archival): : My impression now — that those are fronts for him.
前人民圣殿教成员(档案)::我现在的印象是——这些都是他的幌子。
I think he’s gone crazy.
我认为他疯了。
Eugene Smith, Peoples Temple Member: : When Jim Jones wasn’t there, things tended to be a little bit lighter.
尤金·史密斯,人民圣殿教成员::当吉姆·琼斯不在时,事情往往会轻松一些。
You know, people would be dancing or singing.
你知道,人们会跳舞或唱歌。
There would be music in different cottages.
不同的小屋里都会有音乐。
But when Jones was present, it was very, very dark.
但当琼斯在场时,周围非常非常黑暗。
It was almost like a dark cloud.
几乎就像一片乌云。
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : In Jonestown, there was a speaker system and only Jim spoke on it.
Deborah Layton,人民圣殿教成员、《诱惑毒药》作者::在琼斯镇,有一个扬声器系统,只有吉姆在上面说话。
And it went twenty-four hours a day and he would tape himself.
一天二十四小时,他都会用胶带粘住自己。
So, in the middle of the night, all through the night, his voice was talking to you.
所以,在半夜,整个晚上,他的声音都在和你说话。
Jim Jones (archival): : The United States is calling for the removal of all Blacks and Indians.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::美国呼吁驱逐所有黑人和印第安人。
So is England.
英格兰亦是如此。
They want to have their immigrant Black, Indian population removed in six months.
他们希望在六个月内将黑人、印第安人移民移走。
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : We had no other radio or T.V.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl)::我们没有其他收音机或电视。
or communication with parents or any kind of, you know, update that could show us, really, that there’s a whole other thing going on besides what Jim was interpreting for us.
或与父母的沟通或任何类型的更新,实际上可以向我们展示,除了吉姆为我们解释的内容之外,还有其他事情正在发生。
Jim Jones (archival): : I make my stand clear.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::我的立场很明确。
Give us our liberty or give us our death.
要么给我们自由,要么给我们死亡。
Jordan Vilchez, Peoples Temple Member: : No matter where you were, you could hear.
Jordan Vilchez,人民圣殿教成员::无论您身在何处,您都可以听到。
You could hear it in your — in your bunk at night.
晚上你可以在你的床上听到它。
You could hear it when you’re in the outhouse.
当你在外屋时你可以听到它。
You could hear it when you were working in the field.
当你在田间工作时你可以听到它。
You — you could hear it all the time.
你——你一直都能听到。
Jim Jones (archival): : At least on those terms, we choose our death and no one chooses it for us.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::至少从这些角度来看,我们选择了我们的死亡,没有人为我们选择它。
Don’t try to take any of our children.
不要试图带走我们的任何一个孩子。
Rebecca Moore, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : There was this pervasive sense of being under attack in Jonestown.
丽贝卡·摩尔,人民圣殿教成员亲属: 在琼斯镇,人们普遍感到受到攻击。
He told them that things were just getting worse in the United States, they couldn’t go back home.
他告诉他们,美国的情况越来越糟,他们不能回家。
And not only that, but these forces were traveling to Guyana to destroy them there.
不仅如此,这些部队还前往圭亚那摧毁他们。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : You can’t know how much of a conspiracy there is in the U.S. these days.
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕):你无法知道现在美国有多少阴谋。
Maybe it’s economics?
也许这就是经济学?
Who knows what it is?
谁知道那是什么?
I’m not able to say…But I do know it’s real.
我不能说……但我知道这是真的。
It’s obvious that Martin Luther King was murdered by conspiracy…Malcolm X, Senator Kennedy…
很明显,马丁·路德·金是被阴谋谋杀的……马尔科姆·X、肯尼迪参议员……
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : Over the summer of 1978, all of us noticed that Jim was — seemed to be getting sicker.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl): 1978 年夏天,我们所有人都注意到吉姆的病情似乎越来越严重。
His harangues over the loudspeaker were getting more and more frantic, and really just sounding more and more insane.
他在扩音器里的长篇大论变得越来越疯狂,听起来真的越来越疯狂。
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : He had gotten to the place that even his voice was becoming slurred, and he said it was because the nurse was giving him the wrong medications.
Hue Fortson Jr.,人民圣殿教成员::他的声音都变得含糊不清,他说这是因为护士给了他错误的药物。
But yet still, everyday it was getting worse and worse.
但情况仍然一天天变得越来越糟。
Deborah Layton, Peoples Temple Member, Author, Seductive Poison: : Every night, at some point, his voice would come over the loudspeaker and he’d say, “I’m sending somebody out tonight, somebody you know, somebody you trust and they’re going to act like they want to leave.
黛博拉·雷顿 (Deborah Layton),人民圣殿教成员、作家、《诱惑毒药》:每天晚上,在某个时刻,他的声音都会从扩音器里传来,他会说:“今晚我要派一个人出去,一个你认识的人,一个你信任的人,他们会表现得好像他们想离开。
But this is a loyalty test and you need to turn them in.”
但这是一个忠诚度测试,你需要举报他们。”
Vernon Gosney, Peoples Temple Member: : A father would turn in a son.
弗农·戈斯尼 (Vernon Gosney),人民圣殿教成员::父亲会交出儿子。
A husband would turn in a wife.
丈夫会交出妻子。
A small child would turn in a parent.
一个小孩子会向父母告发。
There was no freedom to express to one another what was going on, because everything was suspect.
没有自由向彼此表达正在发生的事情,因为一切都是可疑的。
The most forbidden thing to express was to leave.
最禁止表达的事情就是离开。
Jim Jones Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : He had a real issue with separation.
人民圣殿教成员小吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones Jr.)::他确实遇到了分离问题。
People could not leave him.
人们离不开他。
He took it as a betrayal to the cause, and to him personally.
他认为这是对事业和他个人的背叛。
Female Peoples Temple Member (archival): : He said, “I really want to get away from him.
女人民圣殿教成员(档案)::他说:“我真的很想远离他。
By Christmas, I will be gone.”
到了圣诞节,我就会离开。”
Jim Jones (archival): : By Christmas, do you want to be gone?
吉姆琼斯(档案)::到了圣诞节,你想离开吗?
By Christmas, do you want to be gone?!
到了圣诞节,你想离开吗?
By Christmas, do you want to be gone?!!
到了圣诞节,你想离开吗?
Male Peoples Temple Member (archival): : I would ask you, could I go home and make a trip to see my people?
男性人民圣殿成员(档案): :请问您,我可以回家看看我的人民吗?
Jim Jones (archival): : I have the power to send you home by Christmas, but it’s not on Transworld Airlines.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::我有权在圣诞节前送你回家,但不是环球航空公司的航班。
It’s blasphemy!
这是亵渎!
It’s blasphemy to talk about going back when you have not been given any approval!
没有得到任何批准就谈论回去,这是亵渎!
Do you want to go home?
你想回家吗?
Jim Jones (archival): : Well, then be seated and shut your mouth and don’t be in my face anymore.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::好吧,那就坐下来,闭上你的嘴,不要再当着我的面了。
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : Congressman Ryan was unique in the political sphere.
杰基·斯皮尔(Jackie Speier),国会议员利奥·瑞安(Leo Ryan)的助手::瑞安议员在政治领域是独一无二的。
He had this hands-on approach to legislating.
他采取了这种亲力亲为的立法方法。
He just didn’t take no for an answer.
他只是不接受“不”的回答。
So when he was in the state assembly, he went to Folsom State Prison and spent a week as an inmate to understand the prison issues and prison reform.
所以当他在州议会任职时,他去了福尔瑟姆州立监狱,当了一周的囚犯,了解监狱问题和监狱改革。
He became concerned because a number of residents in San Mateo County had become members of the Peoples Temple — and family members started contacting him, concerned about their whereabouts and concerned about whether or not they were being held against their will.
他之所以感到担忧,是因为圣马特奥县的一些居民已经成为人民圣殿教的成员,家人开始联系他,担心他们的下落,并担心他们是否被违背自己意愿的关押。
The word we were getting was that there was an armed encampment.
我们得到的消息是那里有一个武装营地。
It was enough for the Congressman to say, “You know what?
国会议员只要说:“你知道吗?
I want to go find out for myself.”
我想亲自去一探究竟。”
Vernon Gosney, Peoples Temple Member: : There was a lot of preparation for Congressman Ryan’s visit.
人民圣殿教成员弗农·戈斯尼 (Vernon Gosney):为国会议员瑞安的访问做了很多准备工作。
There was all these different scenarios that were presented.
呈现了所有这些不同的场景。
He wasn’t going to let him in.
他不会让他进来的。
He was going to let him in.
他本来打算让他进来的。
We were going to wait for them to come in and we were going to kill 'em all when they came in.
我们要等待他们进来,当他们进来时我们要把他们全部杀掉。
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : I was very fearful about making the trip.
杰基·斯皮尔(Jackie Speier),国会议员利奥·瑞安(Leo Ryan)的助手::我对这次旅行感到非常害怕。
I had a copy of the Congressman’s will and placed it in a particular drawer in my desk, just in case.
我有一份国会议员遗嘱的副本,并将其放在我办公桌上的一个特定抽屉里,以防万一。
Stephen Sung, Sound Technician: : We flew in sometime in the afternoon, about 6pm.
Stephen Sung,音响技师: :我们是下午某个时候飞过来的,大约下午 6 点。
We saw this beautiful sign, “Welcome to Jonestown.”
我们看到了这个美丽的标志,“欢迎来到琼斯镇。”
Tim Reiterman, Journalist: : As we approached Jonestown, it was spartan, but very impressive.
蒂姆·雷特曼(Tim Reiterman),记者:当我们接近琼斯敦时,它很简朴,但令人印象深刻。
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : How could you not be impressed that out of the jungles of Guyana, they had carved out a community?
Jackie Speier,国会议员 Leo Ryan 的助手::他们在圭亚那的丛林中开辟了一个社区,你怎么能不印象深刻呢?
They had crops growing.
他们种植庄稼。
They had cabins.
他们有小屋。
They had a little medical clinic, a little daycare area.
他们有一个小诊所,一个小日托区。
Jim Jones (archival): : Flour, rice, black-eyed peas, more peas.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::面粉、大米、黑眼豌豆、更多豌豆。
We have different containers surrounding the place — we couldn’t go through all of the tremendous inventory they built up.
我们在这个地方周围有不同的集装箱——我们无法检查他们建立的所有巨大库存。
Kool-aid —
酷爱援助 —
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : When Ryan came, he came on a Friday night and we put on a reception for him.
Stanley Clayton,人民圣殿教成员::瑞安来时是周五晚上,我们为他举办了招待会。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : The songs that we sang that night — it was people saying, “This is who we are and this is what we are about.”
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter)::那天晚上我们唱的歌曲 — 人们说:“这就是我们,这就是我们的意义。”
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : It was a vibrant community.
Jackie Speier,国会议员 Leo Ryan 的助手::这是一个充满活力的社区。
I would never have imagined that twenty-four hours later, those people would be dead.
我万万没想到,二十四小时后,那些人就死了。
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : Everything up to that point was, was — was good.
Stanley Clayton,人民圣殿教成员::到目前为止,一切都很好。
Everybody was thrilled that Ryan was thrilled.
每个人都因为瑞安的激动而激动不已。
He just kind of praised us.
他只是夸奖我们而已。
Congressman Leo Ryan (archival): : I think that all of you know that I am here to find out more about — questions have been raised about your operation here.
国会议员利奥·瑞安(档案):我想你们都知道我来这里是为了了解更多有关您在这里的运作的问题。
And I can tell you right now, that from the few conversations I’ve had with some of the folks here already this evening, that whatever these comments are — there are some people here who believe that this is the best thing they’ve ever had in their whole lives.
我现在可以告诉你,从今晚我与这里的一些人进行的几次谈话来看,无论这些评论是什么——这里有些人相信这是他们一生中经历过的最好的事情。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : That response to him was spontaneous.
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter)::对他的回应是自发的。
It was loud.
声音很大。
It was emotional.
这是情绪化的。
What I was feeling was — this is an opportunity that I can vocalize how much I believe in what we are doing here.
我的感受是——这是一个机会,让我可以表达我对我们在这里所做的事情的信心。
The reporter next to me said, “I’ve never felt anything like this before,” and I said, “Because you haven’t felt anything like this before.” I actually felt pretty good overall.
旁边的记者说:“我从来没有这样的感觉。”我说:“因为你以前没有这样的感觉。”其实我总体感觉还不错。
This went probably as well as it possibly could go, so far.
到目前为止,一切进展顺利。
Vernon Gosney, Peoples Temple Member: : When Congressman Ryan came, I wanted to pass him a note that said, “Help us get out of Jonestown.” When one of the reporters was walking around toward the edge of the pavilion, I stuck the note in the fold of his arm and it fell to the ground.
弗农·戈斯尼(Vernon Gosney),人民圣殿教成员::当国会议员瑞安来时,我想给他递一张纸条,上面写着:“帮助我们离开琼斯镇。”当其中一名记者向展馆边缘走去时,我把纸条塞在他的手臂上,纸条掉到了地上。
And so I picked up the note and I — and I gave it back to him.
于是我拿起了这张纸条,然后把它还给了他。
I said, “You dropped something,” and this little boy, about nine years old, started saying, “He passed a note!
我说,“你掉了东西,”这个大约九岁的小男孩开始说,“他递了一张纸条!
He passed a note!”
他递了一张纸条!”
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : Don Harris, who was the NBC reporter, came up to me and Congressman Ryan and handed us these two notes from people that wanted to leave.
杰基·斯皮尔(Jackie Speier),国会议员利奥·瑞安(Leo Ryan)的助手::全国广播公司(NBC)记者唐·哈里斯(Don Harris)走到我和国会议员瑞安面前,递给我们两张想要离开的人写的纸条。
So at that point, we knew that something was very, very wrong.
所以在那一点上,我们知道有些事情是非常非常错误的。
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : I was like the first to rise up the following morning.
Stanley Clayton,人民圣殿教成员: :我就像第二天早上第一个起床的人。
It was a bright sunny day, but it was a dark day.
那是一个阳光明媚的日子,但那是一个黑暗的日子。
It just didn’t feel right.
只是感觉不太对劲。
Stephen Sung, Sound Technician: : We were there, supposed to interview some of the family members to ask them why they cannot leave.
Stephen Sung,音响技师::我们在那里,本来应该采访一些家庭成员,询问他们为什么不能离开。
Female (archival): : Oh, I should say I am.
女(档案)::哦,我应该说我是。
I’ve never been any happier in my life.
我一生中从未如此快乐过。
Reporter (archival): : Some people have said they couldn’t leave if they wanted to.
记者(档案)::有些人说想走也走不了。
Do you think you could?
你觉得你可以吗?
Girl (archival): : Yeah.
女孩(档案)::是的。
If I really wanted to I’m — I’m free to go, if I really wanted to.
如果我真的想去的话,我可以自由地去,如果我真的想去的话。
I would be free to go.
我可以自由地去。
Girl’s Mother (archival): : Well, I believe it.
女孩的母亲(档案)::嗯,我相信。
I’ve been here a few days and I have — I have absolutely no complaints at all.
我已经来这里几天了,我绝对没有任何抱怨。
It is really nice here.
这里真的很好。
It is really nice.
这真的很好。
And I’ll be leaving in a couple weeks and they could come with me, but they said they didn’t want to come.
几周后我就要离开,他们可以和我一起去,但他们说不想来。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : Literally, out of nowhere, this storm came blowing in.
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter):从字面上看,这场风暴不知从何而来。
The sky turned black.
天空变黑了。
The wind came up and it just — torrential rain.
刮起了风,然后就下起了倾盆大雨。
But what I personally felt was that evil itself blew into Jonestown.
但我个人的感受是,邪恶本身吹进了琼斯镇。
It was about 11:30 in the morning.
当时是上午11点30分左右。
Edith Parks walked up to Jackie Speier and said, “I’m being held prisoner here, I want to go home.”
伊迪丝·帕克斯走到杰基·斯派尔面前说道:“我被关押在这里,我想回家。”
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan (archival, subtitles): : Now do I both understand you to say that you both want to leave Jonestown on this date, November 18th, 1978?
Jackie Speier,国会议员 Leo Ryan 的助手(档案,字幕): 现在我是否明白你们所说的你们都想在 1978 年 11 月 18 日这一天离开琼斯镇?
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : Immediately, the whole vibe changed.
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter): 整个气氛立即发生了变化。
I mean this reporter said, “We got our story.” You know, “The story’s here.
我的意思是这位记者说,“我们得到了我们的故事。”你知道,“故事就在这里。
It’s happening right now.”
它现在正在发生。”
Vernon Gosney, Peoples Temple Member: : Jim Jones came to talk to me and the first thing he said was, “Don’t say anything to the reporters.
弗农·戈斯尼,人民圣殿教成员:吉姆·琼斯来找我谈话,他说的第一句话是:“不要对记者说什么。
They’re all liars.” The last words I heard from Jim Jones was, “I just want you to know that you can come back to Jonestown and visit your son any time you want.”
他们都是骗子。”我从吉姆·琼斯那里听到的最后一句话是:“我只是想让你知道,你可以随时回到琼斯镇看望你的儿子。”
Reporter (archival): : Last night, someone came and passed me this note.
记者(档案): :昨晚有人过来递给我这张纸条。
Jim Jones (archival): : He’s the one that I’m just talking about.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::他就是我刚才谈论的那个人。
This is the man that wants to leave his son here.
这个人想把他的儿子留在这里。
Reporter (archival): : Doesn’t it concern you, though, that this man, for whatever reason, one of the people in your group…
记者(档案)::不过,这个人,无论出于何种原因,成为你们小组中的一员……这难道不关系到您吗?
Jim Jones (archival): : People play games, friend.
吉姆·琼斯(档案)::人们玩游戏,朋友。
They lie.
他们撒谎。
They lie.
他们撒谎。
What can I do about liars?
面对骗子我能做什么?
Are you people going to — leave us.
你们这些人会——离开我们吗?
I just beg you, please leave us.
我只是求你,请离开我们。
Bill, we will bother nobody.
比尔,我们不会打扰任何人。
Anybody wants to get out of here, can get out of here.
任何人想离开这里,都可以离开这里。
They have no problem about getting out of here.
他们离开这里没有任何问题。
They come and go all the time.
他们一直来来去去。
I don’t know what kind of games people like.
不知道大家喜欢什么类型的游戏。
Who — people like publicity.
谁——人们喜欢宣传。
Some people do.
有些人确实如此。
I don’t.
我不知道。
But some people like publicity.
但有些人喜欢宣传。
But if it’s so damned bad, why is he leaving his son here?
但如果事情真的那么糟糕,他为什么要把儿子留在这里?
Can you give me a good reason for that?
你能给我一个充分的理由吗?
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : When word got out that people were leaving, all hell broke out.
杰基·斯皮尔(Jackie Speier),国会议员利奥·瑞安(Leo Ryan)的助手::当人们离开的消息传出时,一切都爆发了。
Woman (archival): : You bring those kids back here!
女人(档案)::你把那些孩子带回来!
You bring them back!
你把他们带回来!
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : More people wanted to leave.
杰基·斯皮尔(Jackie Speier),国会议员利奥·瑞安(Leo Ryan)的助手::更多的人想要离开。
And then Jim Jones started to make pleas to people, saying, “You can’t leave.
然后吉姆·琼斯开始向人们恳求说:“你们不能离开。
You’re my people.
你们是我的人。
Why do you want to leave?” It was an emotional roller coaster for everyone there.
你为什么要离开?”对于在场的每个人来说,这都是一次情绪过山车。
Woman (archival): : Don’t you touch my kids!
女人(档案)::你别碰我的孩子!
Mother!
母亲!
You’re not taking my kids!
你不准带走我的孩子!
No!
不!
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : Jones was in the pavilion.
杰基·斯皮尔(Jackie Speier),国会议员利奥·瑞安(Leo Ryan)的助手::琼斯当时在展馆里。
At one point, he said, “Well, of course you can go if you want.” But clearly, that was not the message.
有一次,他说:“好吧,如果你愿意的话,当然可以去。”但显然,这不是信息。
The message was, “You are betraying me.”
传达的信息是:“你背叛了我。”
Vernon Gosney, Peoples Temple Member: : I went and I spoke to the Congressman in the pavilion.
弗农·戈斯尼 (Vernon Gosney),人民圣殿教成员::我去了展馆并与国会议员交谈。
I told him, “You are in extreme danger.
我告诉他:“你正处于极度危险之中。
You need to leave.” And he said, “You don’t have anything to worry about.” He says, “You have the Congressional shield of protection around you.” And I just looked at him like he was totally insane.
你需要离开。”他说:“你没有什么可担心的。”他说:“你身边有国会的保护盾。”我只是看着他,就像他完全疯了一样。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : Congressman Ryan was directly across from me, and I saw this Temple member walk up behind him — and he was actually crying and shaking — and all of a sudden, he pulled out this knife and said, “All right, [expletive], you’re gonna die.” We all jumped on him, and there were just screams of horror everywhere.
蒂姆·卡特(Tim Carter),人民圣殿教成员:瑞安议员就在我对面,我看到这位圣殿教成员走到他身后,他实际上在哭泣,浑身发抖,突然,他拔出这把刀,说:“好吧,[脏话],你会死的。”我们都跳到他身上,到处都是恐怖的尖叫声。
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : We heard this great uproar in the pavilion and the truck stopped.
杰基·斯皮尔(Jackie Speier),国会议员利奥·瑞安(Leo Ryan)的助手::我们听到展馆里发生了巨大的骚动,卡车停了下来。
Then, shortly thereafter, Congressman Ryan starts walking out in this bloodstained shirt.
然后,不久之后,国会议员瑞安开始穿着这件沾满血迹的衬衫走出去。
Tim Reiterman, Journalist: : Those of us in the news media viewed Congressman Ryan as a form of protection, a shield of the United States.
记者蒂姆·赖特曼:我们这些新闻媒体人士将瑞安议员视为一种保护形式,是美国的盾牌。
What happened there in those few moments made it clear that nobody was safe.
那一刻发生的事情清楚地表明,没有人是安全的。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : I went back to my cottage.
蒂姆·卡特,人民圣殿教成员::我回到了我的小屋。
All I wanted to do was see my wife and my son.
我只想见到我的妻子和儿子。
Gloria and I were laid down on the cot and we just held each other and I said, “You know, I think we may all die.” And she said — she kind of looked at me and then she looked down at our son, who was playing on the floor with the toys, and she said, “You’re scaring him.” I had literally opened my mouth to say we need to leave, when there was an announcement on the loud speaker — “Will everybody report to the pavilion for a meeting.”
格洛丽亚和我躺在小床上,我们抱在一起,我说:“你知道,我想我们可能都会死。”她说——她看着我,然后低头看着我们的儿子,他正在地板上玩玩具,她说,“你吓着他了。”我正要开口说我们需要离开,这时扩音器里传来了广播——“请大家到展馆报到开会。”
Stephen Sung, Sound Technician: : We drove back to the airstrip, Port Kaituma.
Stephen Sung,音响技术员: :我们开车返回凯图马港机场。
All of a sudden, we saw a dump truck from far away arriving to this airstrip.
突然,我们看到一辆自卸卡车从远处驶来,来到了这个机场。
We realized these people catch up from people from Jim Jones, they’re very close lieutenant to Jim Jones.
我们意识到这些人是从吉姆·琼斯的人那里赶上来的,他们是吉姆·琼斯非常亲密的中尉。
These three guys, they get off the truck and walk around this area as though they were looking for somebody.
这三个家伙下了卡车,在这片区域里走来走去,就像是在找人一样。
They looked in people’s faces.
他们看着人们的脸。
They stared at us for a little bit, but they didn’t say one word.
他们盯着我们看了一会儿,但没有说一句话。
They didn’t ask anything.
他们什么也没问。
Right away, they walked back to the truck.
随即,他们又走回了卡车上。
They drove this truck all the way across the airstrip and stop on this side of the plane, so literally they cut us off from the jungle.
他们开着这辆卡车一路穿过机场,停在飞机的这一侧,所以他们实际上切断了我们与丛林的联系。
We never know there’s people hidden inside the dump truck.
我们永远不知道自卸车里藏着人。
The moment it stopped, they start shooting right away.
一旦停止,他们就立即开始射击。
Everybody ran toward the plane, on this side of plane.
每个人都跑向飞机,在飞机的这一侧。
They try to hide underneath the wheels.
他们试图躲在车轮下面。
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : Then the Congressman ran under the plane, and I sort of followed suit and got behind one of the tires.
杰基·斯皮尔(Jackie Speier),国会议员利奥·瑞安(Leo Ryan)的助手::然后国会议员跑到了飞机下面,我也跟着跑到了一个轮胎后面。
Stephen Sung, Sound Technician: : All you can hear is the gun — pop, pop, pop — goes off constantly.
Stephen Sung,音响技师: :你能听到的就是枪声——啪、啪、啪——不断地响起。
We lie flat on the tarmac at that moment.
那一刻我们平躺在停机坪上。
But shortly afterwards, I heard my partner, the cameraman.
但不久之后,我听到了我的搭档,摄影师。
He yelled, “Oh [expletive].” He said he got — he got shot.
他喊道:“哦[咒骂]。”他说他被枪杀了。
He was sitting up.
他正坐起来。
Tim Reiterman, Journalist: : There were people tumbling and yelling and letting out cries as they were hit.
记者 Tim Reiterman:有人在被击中时翻滚、大喊大叫。
I was hit in my arm and wrist.
我的手臂和手腕被击中。
Stephen Sung, Sound Technician: : I felt a tremendous explosion, right next to my head.
Stephen Sung,音响技师: :我感觉到巨大的爆炸,就在我的头旁边。
I got a tremendous pain ran through my arm and on my shoulder.
我的手臂和肩膀都感到剧烈的疼痛。
I was really shaking, but I didn’t move.
我真的很颤抖,但我没有动。
I took the pain and hold still.
我忍住疼痛,保持不动。
Jackie Speier, Aide to Congressman Leo Ryan: : I was lying on my side, pretending that I was dead, with my head down.
杰基·斯皮尔(Jackie Speier),国会议员利奥·瑞安(Leo Ryan)的助手::我侧身躺着,低着头假装我死了。
And — they came and shot me at point blank — point blank range.
然后——他们来了,近距离向我开枪。
I remember someone coming to me and telling me that Congressman Ryan was dead.
我记得有人来找我并告诉我瑞安议员已经死了。
But I was at a point where I didn’t know how much more time I was going to be alive.
但当时我不知道自己还能活多久。
Stephen Sung, Sound Technician: : The gun’s dead and all we can hear — this one engine was still running.
Stephen Sung,音响技术员::枪已经熄火,我们只能听到——这台发动机仍在运转。
So all you could hear the engine noise.
所以你只能听到发动机的噪音。
And that’s it.
就是这样。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : We walked up to the pavilion together, with everybody else.
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter)::我们和其他人一起走到展馆。
It was very quiet.
非常安静。
It was very somber.
气氛非常阴郁。
It was very sad, but it wasn’t a death march.
这是非常悲伤的,但这不是死亡行军。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : The congressman is dead!
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::国会议员死了!
You think they’re going to allow us to get by with this?
你认为他们会让我们渡过难关吗?
You must be insane.
你一定是疯了。
They’ll torture some of our children here.
他们会在这里折磨我们的一些孩子。
They’ll torture our people.
他们会折磨我们的人民。
They’ll torture our seniors.
他们会折磨我们的前辈。
We can not have this!
我们不能有这个!
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : He said, “Well, we got to go.
人民圣殿教成员斯坦利·克莱顿:他说:“好吧,我们得走了。
We got to get out of here.
我们必须离开这里。
We got to — we got to go to sleep.
我们必须——我们必须去睡觉。
Get the solution together.”
一起找出解决方案。”
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : If we can’t live in peace, then let’s die in peace.
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕):如果我们不能平静地生活,那就让我们平静地死去吧。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : Maria Katsaris walked up to him and whispered in his ear, and he looked at her and said, “Is there anyway to make it taste less bitter?” And she said, “No, no apparently not.” And he said, “Is it quick?” And she said, “Yeah, it’s supposed to be quick.”
蒂姆·卡特,人民圣殿教成员:玛丽亚·卡萨里斯走到他面前,在他耳边低声说话,他看着她说:“有什么办法可以让它尝起来不那么苦吗?”她说:“不,不,显然不是。”他说:“这么快吗?”她说:“是的,应该很快。”
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : Anyone that has any dissenting opinion, please speak.
吉姆·琼斯(档案、字幕)::如有不同意见,请发言。
Christine Miller, Peoples Temple Member (archival, subtitles): : When we destroy ourselves, we’re defeated.
克里斯蒂娜·米勒,人民圣殿教成员(档案,字幕)::当我们毁灭自己时,我们就被打败了。
We let them, the enemies, defeat us.
我们让他们,敌人,打败了我们。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : On the last day of Jonestown, Christine Miller stood up and said, “I don’t want to die here.
蒂姆·卡特,人民圣殿教成员::在琼斯镇的最后一天,克里斯汀·米勒站起来说:“我不想死在这里。
Why are we going to throw all this away?
为什么我们要扔掉这一切?
We’ve worked too hard.”
我们太辛苦了。”
Christine Miller, Peoples Temple Member (archival, subtitles): : I look at all the babies, and I think they deserve to live.
人民圣殿教成员克里斯汀·米勒(档案、字幕)::我看着所有的婴儿,我认为他们应该活下去。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : but also they deserve…what’s more, they deserve peace.
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::但他们也值得……更重要的是,他们值得和平。
Christine Miller, Peoples Temple Member (archival, subtitles): : We all came here for peace.
人民圣殿教成员克里斯汀·米勒(Christine Miller)(档案,字幕)::我们都是为了和平来到这里。
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Is it too late for Russia?
对俄罗斯来说太晚了吗?
Fielding McGehee, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : She’s calling Jim Jones on some of the things that he has promised them that they were going to do.
人民圣殿教成员的亲属菲尔丁·麦吉赫 (Fielding McGehee)::她打电话给吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones),讨论他向他们承诺要做的一些事情。
Jim had promised, as an alternative to them dying in Jonestown, that they could go to the Soviet Union.
吉姆答应,作为他们死在琼斯镇的替代方案,他们可以去苏联。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : I’m listening to you.
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::我在听你说话。
You asked me about Russia.
你问我关于俄罗斯的事。
I’m right now making a call to Russia.
我现在正在给俄罗斯打电话。
What more do you suggest?
您还有什么建议?
Fielding McGehee, Relative of Peoples Temple Member: : Eventually, the rhetoric ratchets up enough that she is shouted down.
人民圣殿教成员亲属菲尔丁·麦吉希 (Fielding McGehee):最终,言论变得越来越激烈,她被大声叫停。
Man (archival, subtitles): : Christine, your life has been extended to today.
男(档案、字幕)::克莉丝汀,你的生命一直延续到今天。
That you’re standing there is because of him.
你能站在那里,都是因为他。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : That’s when I noticed that there were armed guards that had kind of taken positions up around the pavilion.
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter): 就在那时,我注意到展馆周围有武装警卫驻守。
I’m thinking, “Where did all of these [expletive] guns come from?”
我在想,“这些[脏话]枪是从哪里来的?”
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : Jones came down off the podium and he said, “Hey, we got to do this.
斯坦利·克莱顿,人民圣殿教成员::琼斯从讲台上走下来,他说:“嘿,我们必须这样做。
We got to — we got to go, that if we don’t go this way, we going to go like this.” They were coming, taking like newborn babies out of their mothers’ arms.
我们必须——我们必须走,如果我们不走这条路,我们就这样走。”他们来了,就像刚出生的婴儿一样,从母亲的怀抱中被夺走。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : Mother, mother, mother, mother, mother please.
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::妈妈,妈妈,妈妈,妈妈,妈妈,请。
Mother, please, please, please don’t…Don’t do this!
妈妈,求你了,求你了,求你不要……不要这样做!
Don’t do this!
不要这样做!
Lay down your life with your child.
和你的孩子一起放下你的生命。
But don’t do this.
但不要这样做。
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : There was a young kid, his name was Thurman and when he came inside, he bumped into me.
Stanley Clayton,人民圣殿教成员::有一个小孩子,他的名字叫瑟曼,当他进来时,他撞到了我。
At that same time, he’s falling to the ground and he’s going into convulsion.
与此同时,他倒在地上,开始抽搐。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : Hurry, hurry, my children, hurry!
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::快点,快点,我的孩子们,快点!
All right, let us not fall into in the hands of the enemy.
好吧,让我们不要落入敌人手中。
Hurry my children!
我的孩子们快点吧!
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : I grabbed the kid from the shoulders up, and in that process of taking him out of the pavilion, this kid died in my arms.
斯坦利·克莱顿,人民圣殿教成员::我从肩膀上抓住了这个孩子,在把他带出展馆的过程中,这个孩子死在了我的怀里。
I mean, I just felt the life go out of him.
我的意思是,我感觉他的生命消失了。
To me — at that point, I knew that this [expletive] was real.
对我来说——在那一刻,我知道这个[脏话]是真实的。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : Die with respect, die with a degree of dignity.
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::带着尊重死去,带着一定程度的尊严死去。
It’s nothing to death, it’s just stepping over into another plane.
这没什么大不了的,只是跨入另一个位面而已。
Don’t, don’t be this way!
别、别这样!
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : I ain’t never used the term “suicide,” and I’m not gonna never use the term “suicide.” That man killed — was killing us.
人民圣殿教成员斯坦利·克莱顿:我从来没有使用过“自杀”这个词,而且我也不会永远使用“自杀”这个词。那个被杀的人——正在杀死我们。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : As I walked up to the back of the pavilion, I saw a woman name Rosie on the ground crying, holding her dead baby.
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter)::当我走到展馆后面时,我看到一个名叫罗西 (Rosie) 的妇女躺在地上,抱着她死去的婴儿在哭泣。
There were maybe eight or nine other people who were dying, or in the process of dying.
可能还有八九个人快要死了,或者正在死的过程中。
Inside, I just wanted things to stop.
在内心深处,我只是想让事情停止。
Please, just let me catch my breath; let me figure out what’s happening here.
请让我喘口气;让我弄清楚这里发生了什么。
I looked to my right and I saw my wife, with our son in her arms and poison being injected into his mouth.
我向右看,看到了我的妻子,她怀里抱着我们的儿子,毒药被注入他的嘴里。
My son was dead and he was frothing at the mouth.
我儿子死了,他口吐白沫。
You know, cyanide makes people froth at the mouth.
要知道,氰化物会使人口吐白沫。
My wife died in my arms and my dead baby son was in her arms.
我的妻子死在我怀里,我死去的小儿子死在她怀里。
And I held her and said, “I love you, I love you,” because it’s all I could say.
我抱着她说:“我爱你,我爱你,”因为这是我所能说的。
She died in my arms, man.
她死在我怀里了,伙计。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): : Quickly!
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕)::快点!
Quickly!
迅速地!
Quickly!
迅速地!
Quickly!
迅速地!
Quickly!
迅速地!
Where is the vat?
缸在哪里?
The vat, the vat…Bring it here, so the adults can begin.
缸,缸……把它带到这里,这样大人就可以开始了。
Stanley Clayton, Peoples Temple Member: : My wife came up to me, she didn’t have no tears in her eyes.
斯坦利·克莱顿,人民圣殿教成员::我的妻子走到我身边,她的眼里没有泪水。
She just was — was just in a daze.
她只是——只是发呆。
“My mother, my grandmother, my sister, my brother, they gone.” You know she said, “Just take me.
“我的母亲、我的祖母、我的妹妹、我的兄弟,他们都走了。”你知道她说:“带我走吧。”
Just take me and just lay me down next to my grandmamma.”
把我抱起来,让我躺在我奶奶旁边。”
And she went up to that Kool-Aid, to that death barrel and she just, I mean — didn’t hesitate, just took it and drunk it and then told me to hold her, to take her, and I did.
她走向那个酷爱饮料,那个死亡桶,她只是,我的意思是——毫不犹豫,只是接过它并喝了它,然后告诉我抱住她,带上她,我做到了。
And she died in my arms.
而她却死在了我的怀里。
And once I laid her down and she told me how she wanted to lay with her grandmother, I — at that point, knew that I didn’t have no reason to be here no more.
当我让她躺下时,她告诉我她多么想和她的祖母一起躺下,我——那时,我知道我没有理由不再留在这里了。
Jim Jones (archival, subtitles): We laid it down…we got tired.
吉姆·琼斯(档案,字幕):我们放下了……我们累了。
We didn’t commit suicide.
我们没有自杀。
We committed an act of revolutionary suicide protesting the conditions of an inhumane world.
我们犯下了革命自杀的行为,抗议不人道的世界的状况。
Tim Carter, Peoples Temple Member: : We were just [expletive] slaughtered.
人民圣殿教成员蒂姆·卡特 (Tim Carter)::我们刚刚被[脏话]屠杀了。
[Expletive] slaughtered.
[脏话] 被屠杀。
There was nothing dignified about it.
毫无尊严可言。
Had nothing to do with revolutionary suicide, nothing to do about making a [expletive] statement, it was just senseless waste, senseless waste and death.
与革命自杀无关,与发表[脏话]声明无关,这只是无意义的浪费,无意义的浪费和死亡。
Narrator (anonymous letter, archival): : “To whomever finds this note.
旁白(匿名信,档案)::“致发现此字条的任何人。
Collect all the tapes, all the writing, all the history.
收集所有的磁带、所有的文字、所有的历史。
The story of this movement, this action, must be examined over and over.
这一运动、这一行动的故事必须反复审视。
We did not want this kind of ending.
我们不想要这样的结局。
We wanted to live, to shine, to bring light to a world that is dying for a little bit of love.”
我们想要生活,想要发光,想要为这个渴望一点爱的世界带来光明。”
Laura Johnston Kohl, Peoples Temple Member: : I never believed in Heaven in my whole life.
人民圣殿教成员劳拉·约翰斯顿·科尔 (Laura Johnston Kohl):我一生都不相信有天堂。
You know, that’s not the way I operated — but when I was in Guyana, and when I’d watch the sun rise, I actually thought there was a heaven on Earth.
你知道,这不是我的行事方式——但当我在圭亚那时,当我看着太阳升起时,我实际上认为地球上有一个天堂。
And now, I can’t believe in heaven anymore.
现在,我已经不再相信有天堂了。
Narrator (anonymous letter, archival): : “There’s quiet as we leave this world.
旁白(匿名信,档案)::“当我们离开这个世界时,周围一片安静。
The sky is gray.
天空是灰色的。
People file by us slowly and take the somewhat bitter drink.
人们慢慢地从我们身边走过,喝着有点苦的饮料。
Many more must drink.”
还有更多人必须喝酒。”
Juanell Smart, Peoples Temple Member: : I’m saddened because it didn’t work out.
人民圣殿教成员胡安内尔·斯玛特 (Juanell Smart)::我很难过,因为它没有成功。
Because it just seemed so beautiful.
因为它看起来是如此美丽。
And I’ll say this about November 18th, I felt I’d lost a family and I knew I’d lost my children.
我会在 11 月 18 日这样说,我觉得我失去了一个家庭,我知道我失去了我的孩子。
Narrator (anonymous letter, archival): : “A teeny kitten sits next to me watching.
旁白(匿名信,档案)::“一只小猫坐在我旁边看着。
A dog barks.
一只狗在吠叫。
The birds gather on the telephone wires.
鸟儿聚集在电话线上。
Let all the story of this Peoples Temple be told.”
把这座人民圣殿的故事都说出来吧。”
Eugene Smith, Peoples Temple Member: : We were people that — we wanted to make a change.
尤金·史密斯,人民圣殿教成员::我们想要做出改变。
It’s a shame it didn’t happen.
很遗憾它没有发生。
It might not never happen.
这可能永远不会发生。
But one thing I can say, at least we tried and we didn’t sit back and wait on the laurels for somebody else to try it.
但我可以说的一件事是,至少我们尝试过,并且我们没有坐等别人尝试。
Yes, we tried it.
是的,我们尝试过。
Yes, it was a failure.
是的,这是一次失败。
Yes, it was very tragic.
是的,这是非常悲惨的。
But at least we tried.
但至少我们尝试过。
Narrator (anonymous letter, archival): : “If nobody understands, it matters not.
旁白(匿名信,档案)::“如果没人理解,那也没关系。
I am ready to die now.
我现在已经准备好去死了。
Darkness settles over Jonestown on its last day on Earth.”
黑暗笼罩着琼斯镇,这是地球上的最后一天。”
Hue Fortson Jr., Peoples Temple Member: : I never had any dreams of Jonestown until this one dream came.
小休·福特森 (Hue Fortson Jr.),人民圣殿教成员::在这个梦想实现之前,我从来没有梦想过琼斯镇。
I could see myself in Jonestown walking, and when I looked to my left, there was my son.
我可以看到自己在琼斯镇行走,当我向左边看时,我的儿子就在那里。
He was standing in the middle of a duffel bag.
他站在一个行李袋的中间。
And just right when I got ready to reach to touch his head, he pulled the bag up like this.
正当我准备伸手去摸他的头时,他就这样把包拉了起来。
And the bag fell and he was gone.
然后袋子掉了下来,他就不见了。
On-screen text: : 909 Peoples Temple members died at Jonestown.
屏幕上的文字::909 名人民圣殿教成员在琼斯镇死亡。
Tim Carter, Stanley Clayton and three others escaped into the jungle.
蒂姆·卡特、斯坦利·克莱顿和其他三人逃进丛林。
Five people were killed on the airstrip.
五人在机场丧生。
Approximately eighty Jonestown residents, including three of Jim Jones’ sons, were away that day and survived.
当天大约有八十名琼斯镇居民,其中包括吉姆·琼斯的三个儿子,他们都在外,幸存下来。
Neva Sly Hargrave lost her husband and son.
涅瓦·斯莱·哈格雷夫失去了丈夫和儿子。
Eugene Smith lost his wife, son, daughter, and mother.
尤金·史密斯失去了妻子、儿子、女儿和母亲。
Rebecca Moore lost her two sisters and nephew.
丽贝卡·摩尔失去了她的两个姐妹和侄子。
Tim Carter lost his wife and son, sister, niece and nephew.
蒂姆·卡特失去了妻子、儿子、妹妹、侄女和侄子。
Juanell Smart lost her four children, mother, and uncle.
胡安内尔·斯玛特失去了她的四个孩子、母亲和叔叔。
Jim Jones Jr. lost his wife, unborn child, sister, two brothers, four nephews, niece, mother and father.
小吉姆·琼斯 (Jim Jones Jr.) 失去了妻子、未出生的孩子、妹妹、两个兄弟、四个侄子、侄女、母亲和父亲。
Jordan Vilchez lost two sisters and two nephews.
乔丹·维尔切斯失去了两个姐妹和两个侄子。
Mike Touchette lost his mother, sister, brother, uncle, and grandfather.
迈克·图切特失去了他的母亲、姐妹、兄弟、叔叔和祖父。
Eugene and June Cordell lost Edith Cordell and nineteen other relatives.
尤金·科德尔和琼·科德尔失去了伊迪丝·科德尔和其他十九名亲戚。
In 1978 over 900 people died in the largest mass murder-suicide in history.
1978年,历史上最大规模的大规模谋杀自杀事件导致900多人死亡。
Jim Jones attracted a large following to his Peoples Temple through sermons on tolerance, social responsibility and community.
吉姆·琼斯通过关于宽容、社会责任和社区的布道吸引了大量追随者来到他的人民圣殿教。
In 1972 Leo Ryan was elected to the United States Congress from California’s 11th District.
1972 年,利奥·瑞安 (Leo Ryan) 从加利福尼亚州第 11 选区当选为美国国会议员。
He continued his flamboyant methods, lying down on the ice between fur hunters and baby harp seals on a fact-finding mission to Newfoundland.
他继续他华丽的方法,躺在冰上,在毛皮猎人和小竖琴海豹之间,前往纽芬兰执行实况调查任务。
When Guyanese authorities arrived at Jonestown on November 19, 1978, the only survivor present was Hyacinth Thrash, a 76-year-old black woman who had joined Peoples Temple in Indianapolis.
1978 年 11 月 19 日,圭亚那当局抵达琼斯敦时,在场的唯一幸存者是 Hyacinth Thrash,她是一名 76 岁的黑人妇女,曾加入印第安纳波利斯的人民圣殿骑士团。
Jonestown was meant to be a utopia and, for a while, it was.
琼斯镇本应成为一个乌托邦,在一段时间内确实如此。
In California, the Peoples Temple continued to grow and develop into a political and social advocacy group.
在加利福尼亚州,人民圣殿教不断成长并发展成为一个政治和社会倡导团体。
Peoples Temple welcomed people of every race and ethnicity.
人民圣殿欢迎各个种族和民族的人们。
The racial integration became self-fulfilling at some point; the congregation itself became the draw.
种族融合在某个时刻变得自我实现。会众本身就成为了吸引人的地方。
A diverse group, the members of Peoples Temple shared a common goal: to create an egalitarian society free of problems of class and race.
作为一个多元化的群体,人民圣殿教的成员有一个共同的目标:创建一个没有阶级和种族问题的平等社会。
Peoples Temple leader Jim Jones carefully revealed only as much of himself as he needed to to any given audience.
人民圣殿教领袖吉姆·琼斯小心翼翼地只向特定观众透露了他需要的信息。