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God in America

上帝在美国
October 11, 2010  ·  American Experience (PBS)  ·  原文

Episode 1: A New Adam [The words spoken by the actors in this film are from transcripts, sermons and personal journals of the characters they portray.]

第一集:新亚当 [本片中演员所说的话来自他们所扮演的角色的文字记录、布道和个人日记。]

ANNOUNCER

Beginning tonight, a special series exploring how religious faith and the quest for religious liberty has shaped public life in America for over 400 years.

从今晚开始,一个特别系列探讨了 400 多年来宗教信仰和对宗教自由的追求如何塑造了美国的公共生活。

- You can't divorce faith from the American experience.

- 你不能将信仰与美国的经历分开。

It really is our historical and cultural DNA.

这确实是我们的历史和文化 DNA。

ANNOUNCER

This is the dramatic history of the struggle for faith and freedom, rewritten by war, by politics and by spiritual imagination.

这是一部为信仰和自由而奋斗的戏剧性历史,被战争、政治和精神想象改写。

- We've had this notion, from the very beginning of American life, that this is a special place and what makes it special is that we have some kind of special relationship with God.

- 从美国生活一开始,我们就有这样的观念:这是一个特别的地方,它的特别之处在于我们与上帝有着某种特殊的关系。

ANNOUNCER

It is the story of how Europeans' attempts to convert native Americans was met with violent rebellion, how the Puritans fled religious tyranny in the Old World to build a more perfect society in the new.

这个故事讲述了欧洲人如何改变美洲原住民的信仰,却遭到暴力叛乱,清教徒如何逃离旧世界的宗教暴政,在新世界建立一个更加完美的社会。

JOHN WINTHROP

We must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill.

我们必须想到我们将成为一座山上的城。

ANNOUNCER

And how new waves of immigrants demanded their religious freedom.

以及新一波移民如何要求宗教自由。

- Hughes genuinely felt that the public schools were engines of converting Catholics into Protestants.

- 休斯真诚地认为公立学校是将天主教徒转变为新教徒的引擎。

ANNOUNCER

It is the story of faith, the Civil War, and a president's private spiritual journey.

这是关于信仰、内战和总统私人精神之旅的故事。

- Lincoln decided that the war had been decreed by God.

- 林肯认为战争是上帝注定的。

ANNOUNCER

And the religious foundation of Civil Rights.

以及民权的宗教基础。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: I just want to do God's will, and he has allowed me to go up to the mountain!

小马丁·路德·金:我只是想遵行上帝的旨意,他允许我上山!

ANNOUNCER

It is a story of spiritual awakenings and political awakenings.

这是一个关于精神觉醒和政治觉醒的故事。

Pres.

新闻。

RONALD REAGAN: I know that you can't endorse me, but I endorse you.

罗纳德·里根:我知道你不能支持我,但我支持你。

ANNOUNCER

Of the freedom to believe and the struggle to be free from belief, of the quest for truth, faith and power in the most religiously diverse nation on earth.

信仰自由和摆脱信仰的斗争,在地球上宗教最多元化的国家追求真理、信仰和权力。

Pres.

新闻。

BARACK OBAMA: We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus and non-believers.

巴拉克·奥巴马:我们是一个由基督徒、穆斯林、犹太人、印度教徒和非信徒组成的国家。

ANNOUNCER

It is a complex history full of surprises and insights, a fresh and challenging journey through the American story.

这是一部充满惊喜和见解的复杂历史,是一段穿越美国故事的新鲜而充满挑战的旅程。

NARRATOR

When the first Europeans came to the New World, they brought with them Christian traditions and beliefs that had endured for more than a thousand years.

当第一批欧洲人来到新大陆时,他们带来了延续了一千多年的基督教传统和信仰。

But in this new land, religion would be forced to change.

但在这片新土地上,宗教将被迫改变。

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: It's this new place, the New World, the new Jerusalem, the new Israel, whatever you might call it, but "new'' is the operative word.

斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗,波士顿大学宗教学教授:这是一个新的地方,新世界,新耶路撒冷,新以色列,无论你怎么称呼它,但“新”是最重要的词。

And that's being made here.

这就是在这里进行的。

And what's being made is precisely up for grabs.

而正在制作的东西正是可供争夺的。

NARRATOR

This is the story of America's struggle from old religion to new.

这是美国从旧宗教走向新宗教的斗争故事。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

There was this idea that we are the new Adam and the new Eve.

有人认为我们是新亚当和新夏娃。

We are these new people, and we're being made by this new environment.

我们是这些新人,我们是在这个新环境中造就的。

And that's what we're sort of straining toward early on, some new kind of narrative, some new kind of story that we, as Americans, can tell that is going to be a story of us in relationship to God.

这就是我们早期所追求的,某种新的叙事方式,某种新的故事,作为美国人,我们可以讲述这将是我们与上帝关系的故事。

NARRATOR

A story that would change American religion forever and help give birth to Americans' identity.

这个故事将永远改变美国的宗教并有助于美国人身份的诞生。

A century after Christopher Columbus came to the New World, the first Spaniards reached the land that they would call New Mexico.

克里斯托弗·哥伦布到达新大陆一个世纪后,第一批西班牙人到达了他们称之为新墨西哥的土地。

Their conquistadors came in search of silver, their missionaries came to save heathen souls.

他们的征服者来寻找银子,他们的传教士来拯救异教徒的灵魂。

Father JACK ROBINSON, Franciscan Friar: It was important.

方济会修道士杰克·罗宾逊神父:这很重要。

This was life and death.

这是生死攸关的事。

Not simply life and death here on earth, this was eternal life and eternal damnation.

这不仅仅是地球上的生与死,而是永生与永罚。

NARRATOR

For they believed theirs was the true path to salvation.

因为他们相信他们的道路才是真正的救赎之路。

Father JACK CLARK ROBINSON: "I'm supposed to go to places where they haven't heard this story before and share this story, share this Gospel message, because I believe it's true.''

杰克·克拉克·罗宾逊神父:“我应该去他们以前没有听过这个故事的地方,分享这个故事,分享这个福音信息,因为我相信这是真的。”

NARRATOR

But the people the Spanish encountered had their own religious traditions.

但西班牙人遇到的人有自己的宗教传统。

For more than a thousand years, the Pueblo Indians had led a spiritual life that had flourished among the hills and valleys of the Rio Grande.

一千多年来,普韦布洛印第安人在格兰德河的丘陵和山谷中过着繁荣的精神生活。

PORTER SWENTZELL, Santa Clara Pueblo: Our whole world around us is our religion.

PORTER SWENTZELL,圣克拉拉普韦布洛:我们周围的整个世界就是我们的宗教。

Our way of life is our religion.

我们的生活方式就是我们的宗教。

The way we behave towards one another and towards others- that's our religion, you know?

我们对待彼此和他人的方式——这就是我们的宗教,你知道吗?

The very moment we wake up in the morning to the moment we that go to bed, and even when we're asleep, you know, that's our religion.

从我们早上醒来的那一刻到我们上床睡觉的那一刻,甚至当我们睡着的时候,你知道,这就是我们的宗教。

NARRATOR

The Spanish began to settle on Pueblo lands.

西班牙人开始在普韦布洛土地上定居。

PORTER SWENTZELL

We welcome people coming to visit, give them food.

我们欢迎人们前来参观,并为他们提供食物。

We provide them a place to stay.

我们为他们提供住宿的地方。

That's the kind of hospitality that they met the Spanish that were coming in with.

这就是他们迎接进来的西班牙人的热情好客。

They were looking for that the Spanish would see what kind of people they are and respond in kind.

他们希望西班牙人能够看到他们是什么样的人并做出同样的回应。

They never did reciprocate that kind of relationship.

他们从来没有回报过这种关系。

NARRATOR

Within a decade, the Spanish had built more than 40 Catholic churches.

十年之内,西班牙人建造了40多座天主教堂。

The Franciscan friars conducted daily Mass, and the Pueblos came.

方济会修道士每天都会进行弥撒,普韦布洛人也会来。

PORTER SWENTZELL

The Pueblos were not closed saying, "Our way is the only right way.'' When the Church came in, the Peublos said, "Hey, we'll go to your Mass and listen to what you have to say.'' And so the Spanish thought that was a willing acceptance of Catholicism.

普韦布洛人并没有封闭地说,“我们的道路是唯一正确的道路。”当教会进来时,普韦布洛人说,“嘿,我们会去参加你们的弥撒,听听你们要说的话。”因此,西班牙人认为这是对天主教的自愿接受。

NARRATOR

But the Pueblos had no intention of letting Christianity take the place of their own religion.

但普韦布洛人无意让基督教取代他们自己的宗教。

Father JACK CLARK ROBINSON: The Pueblos could say, "We'll add the blessed mother.

杰克·克拉克·罗宾逊神父:普韦布洛人可以说,“我们将添加神圣的母亲。

We'll add the baby Jesus.'' There was obviously some confusion because the friars didn't realize that they were being- that they were an addition rather than a replacement.

我们将添加婴儿耶稣。”显然存在一些混乱,因为修道士们没有意识到他们是一个补充,而不是替代。

NARRATOR

But the Franciscan priests saw no room for any other religion.

但方济各会的牧师认为没有任何其他宗教的生存空间。

Eternal damnation, theirs and the Pueblos, was at stake.

他们和普韦布洛人的永恒诅咒岌岌可危。

Catholicism was the only religion that could save the native souls.

天主教是唯一能够拯救本土灵魂的宗教。

By the early 1600s, they began to report that hundreds of Pueblo Indians were converting, but the Pueblos themselves saw things differently.

到了 1600 年代初期,他们开始报告说,数百名普韦布洛印第安人正在皈依基督教,但普韦布洛人自己却有不同的看法。

JOSEPH H.

约瑟夫·H.

SUINA, Historian, University of New Mexico: The Catholic Church was saying one true God, and no others.

SUINA,历史学家,新墨西哥大学:天主教会说只有一位真神,没有其他神。

Well, it's not that way with Pueblo religion.

嗯,普韦布洛宗教并非如此。

You know, it's- we don't think that there's one true God for all people in the world.

你知道,我们不认为世界上所有人都有一位真神。

JOE A.

乔·A.

GARCIA, Okhay Owingeh Pueblo: Converting means you let go of your way and you take on another way.

GARCIA,Ohay Owingeh Pueblo:转变意味着你放弃自己的方式并采取另一种方式。

And I don't believe that happened ever.

我不相信这种事曾经发生过。

NARRATOR

Some friars began to notice that even many converted Pueblos continued to practice their own religion.

一些修道士开始注意到,甚至许多皈依的普韦布洛人仍然继续信奉自己的宗教。

They demanded that the colony's soldiers enforce their one true faith.

他们要求殖民地的士兵坚守他们唯一的真正信仰。

Native ceremonies were banned, religious icons burned, sacred places of worship destroyed.

土著仪式被禁止,宗教圣像被焚烧,神圣的礼拜场所被毁。

JOSEPH H. SUINA

As far as you could go in terms of saying, "Look, forget it.

你可以说:“听着,算了吧。

This is not going to ever be again.

这种情况不会再发生了。

This is what we think about your religion.''

这就是我们对你们的宗教的看法。”

Father JACK CLARK ROBINSON: It was a time of militancy about your faith, and the friars brought that with them.

杰克·克拉克·罗宾逊神父:那是一个对信仰充满斗志的时期,修道士们也带来了这种斗志。

"We have the truth.

“我们有真相。

This is the truth.

这是事实。

This is the truth that the whole Spanish empire is behind me supporting.

这是整个西班牙帝国都在我身后支持的真理。

I'm going to get this truth in there.''

我要把这个真相放进去。”

NARRATOR

Some priests became notoriously brutal.

一些牧师变得出了名的残暴。

One beat a Pueblo man so badly, the victim was described as bathed in blood.

其中一名男子殴打了一名普韦布洛男子,受害者被描述为浑身是血。

The breaking point came in 1675.

转折点出现在 1675 年。

Forty-seven Pueblo religious leaders were imprisoned in Santa Fe for sorcery.

四十七名普韦布洛宗教领袖因巫术被监禁在圣达菲。

One of them was a man called Po'pay from the Okay Owingeh pueblo.

其中一位名叫Po'pay 的男子来自奥凯奥温格村。

He was publically flogged, but three others were dragged before their people and hanged.

他被公开鞭打,但另外三人被拖到人民面前并被绞死。

JOSEPH H. SUINA

It got to that point when about the time he was in prison, when things were really getting worse, you know, and so for him, this was- this was time to do something.

当他入狱的时候,事情真的变得更糟了,你知道,所以对他来说,这是——现在是做点什么的时候了。

NARRATOR

Po'pay sent a message to the Pueblo tribes calling for war.

波佩向普韦布洛部落发出了呼吁战争的信息。

PO'PAY

I say to you, my brothers, go to your owingehs.

我对你们说,我的兄弟们,去偿还你们的债务吧。

Wait further word.

等等进一步的说法。

Senge de ho.

圣吉德霍。

NARRATOR

Two thousand Pueblo Indians descended on the Spanish.

两千普韦布洛印第安人袭击了西班牙人。

Hundreds died in the fighting, but it was the Catholic priests who were specifically targeted.

数百人在战斗中丧生,但天主教神父成为特别目标。

More than half their number were murdered.

他们一半以上的人被谋杀。

It was August 10th, 1680.

那是 1680 年 8 月 10 日。

Ten days later, the Spanish fled New Mexico.

十天后,西班牙人逃离新墨西哥州。

The Catholic empire had faltered.

天主教帝国已经摇摇欲坠。

It was a sign that European religion would not survive unchanged in the New World.

这是一个迹象,表明欧洲宗教将无法在新世界中保持原样。

JOHN WINTHROP

For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill.

因为我们必须考虑到我们将成为一座山上的城。

The eyes of all people are upon us.

所有人的目光都注视着我们。

NARRATOR

On the harsh and rocky shores of Massachusetts, a small group of men and women had already begun the struggle to create a new Christian community.

在马萨诸塞州崎岖多石的海岸上,一小群男女已经开始为创建一个新的基督教社区而奋斗。

The Puritans who came to America in 1630 were fired by a zeal to save Christianity from the corruption of a European church.

1630 年来到美国的清教徒热衷于将基督教从欧洲教会的腐败中拯救出来。

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: They're carrying with them this story, "We're leaving because we're going to remake Christianity.

波士顿大学宗教学教授斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗:他们带着这样的故事:“我们要离开,因为我们要重塑基督教。

We're leaving because we're going to remake the world.'' And so it gives them a sense of specialness.

我们离开是因为我们要重塑世界。”因此这给了他们一种特殊感。

"We're the chosen people.'' And then they come over here and they act that way.

“我们是被选中的人。”然后他们来到这里,他们就这样做了。

They start to act like they're the Israelites.

他们开始表现得像以色列人一样。

You know, they've gone across the ocean.

要知道,他们已经漂洋过海了。

You know, they've escaped the Pharaoh.

你知道,他们已经逃离了法老的魔掌。

NARRATOR

They had been persecuted for accusing their king of failing to cleanse the Church of England of Catholicism.

他们因指责国王未能净化英国国教的天主教而受到迫害。

They had been hounded as radicals for their fervor for the Protestant Reformation.

他们因热衷于新教改革而被视为激进分子而受到追捕。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The whole point of reformation was to make Christianity right, to bring it back to the beginning, bring it back to its pure origins, bring it back to the Bible.

宗教改革的全部目的是使基督教变得正确,将其带回到最初,带回其纯粹的起源,带回圣经。

And the Church of England wasn't doing enough of that.

英国教会在这方面做得还不够。

And so that's where they got their name from, the Puritans.

这就是他们名字的由来,清教徒。

They were going to purify the church.

他们要去净化教堂。

NARRATOR

The burden of creating this "godly enterprise" fell on the shoulders of John Winthrop, a provincial lawyer in England but now governor of the new colony.

创建这一“神圣事业”的重担落在了约翰·温思罗普(John Winthrop)的肩上,他是英国的一名地方律师,但现在是新殖民地的总督。

JOHN WINTHROP

The Lord will be our God and delight to dwell among us.

主将成为我们的神并乐意住在我们中间。

The Lord will be our God and delight to dwell among us as his one people.

主将成为我们的神,并乐意住在我们中间,成为他的独一子民。

MICHAEL P.

迈克尔·P。

WINSHIP, Historian, University of Georgia: When he committed himself to the colony in 1629, he committed himself all the way.

温希普,历史学家,佐治亚大学:当他在 1629 年致力于殖民地时,他一直致力于这一点。

I mean, he had a profound determination to see the colony succeed.

我的意思是,他有坚定的决心要看到殖民地取得成功。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The New Englanders were aware that there had been other efforts, like at Jamestown, that was a miserable failure, and they didn't want theirs to be a miserable failure.

新英格兰人意识到,还有其他的努力,比如在詹姆斯敦,那是一次悲惨的失败,他们不希望自己的努力成为一次悲惨的失败。

And they knew that the odds were against them.

他们知道形势对他们不利。

You know, they knew that the climate was difficult.

你知道,他们知道气候很困难。

They knew that it was going to be hard to get agriculture going.

他们知道农业的发展将会很困难。

And Winthrop- he's the father to all these people in some very important way, and he's in charge of them.

温思罗普——在某些非常重要的方面,他是所有这些人的父亲,他负责管理他们。

And if things screw up, it's sort of on his shoulders.

如果事情搞砸了,责任就落在了他的肩上。

NARRATOR

As governor, Winthrop was careful to record the events of his Bible Commonwealth.

作为总督,温思罗普小心翼翼地记录了他的圣经联邦的事件。

His journals, he hoped, would be testament to the mission's success.

他希望他的日记能够证明这次任务的成功。

The colony would shine like a beacon back to the Old World, a lesson in how Christianity should work.

这个殖民地将像一座回到旧世界的灯塔一样闪耀,这是基督教应该如何运作的一课。

JOHN WINTHROP

For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill.

因为我们必须考虑到我们将成为一座山上的城。

The eyes of all people are upon us.

所有人的目光都注视着我们。

So if we deal falsely with our God in this work we have undertaken, and so cause him to withdraw his present help from us, we shall be made a story and a byword through the world .

因此,如果我们在我们所从事的这项工作中错误地对待我们的上帝,从而导致他从我们身上撤回目前的帮助,我们将成为全世界的故事和笑柄。

NARRATOR

That first winter, nearly half the Puritans froze to death or starved.

第一个冬天,近一半的清教徒被冻死或饿死。

The colony was on the brink of collapse.

殖民地正处于崩溃的边缘。

They feared it was a sign that they had not been pious enough, had not prayed hard enough, that their God had abandoned them.

他们担心这表明他们不够虔诚,祈祷不够努力,他们的上帝已经抛弃了他们。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The fate of the society hung on the religiosity of the society, you know?

社会的命运取决于社会的宗教信仰,你知道吗?

And if they turned away from God, God would turn away from them.

如果他们背弃神,神也会背弃他们。

If then- you know, "If we are good, then God will bless us and we will prosper.

如果那么——你知道,“如果我们善良,那么上帝就会保佑我们,我们就会繁荣。

And if we don't, if we screw up, if we start to fight with one another, if we start to seek our own ends, God will turn on us and this will be a total miserable failure.''

如果我们不这样做,如果我们搞砸了,如果我们开始互相争斗,如果我们开始寻求自己的目的,上帝就会转向我们,这将是一场彻底的悲惨失败。”

NARRATOR

If even one offended God, the whole colony could perish.

只要有一个人得罪了上帝,整个殖民地就会灭亡。

Laws governing behavior were strictly enforced.

规范行为的法律得到严格执行。

Those who questioned the religious laws of the colony risked banishment into a hostile wilderness.

那些质疑殖民地宗教法律的人冒着被放逐到充满敌意的荒野的风险。

FRANK LAMBERT, Historian, Purdue University: The ideal was conformity.

弗兰克·兰伯特,普渡大学历史学家:理想就是顺从。

The ideal was to have a single, pure, orthodox community in which everybody conformed to the true religion.

理想是拥有一个单一、纯粹、正统的社区,其中每个人都遵守真正的宗教。

NARRATOR

But Governor Winthrop faced an impossible dilemma.

但温思罗普州长面临着一个不可能的困境。

His colony depended on absolute conformity for its survival, but this contradicted what lay at the heart of Puritan religion.

他的殖民地依靠绝对的服从来生存,但这与清教徒宗教的核心相矛盾。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The Puritan experiment of saying, "We're going to do something totally new'' starts out with this impulse of giving authority back to the individual, right?

清教徒的实验说,“我们要做一些全新的事情”,始于将权威归还给个人的冲动,对吗?

The Catholics are saying, "OK, the Pope will tell you how to read the Bible.

天主教徒说:“好吧,教皇会告诉你如何阅读圣经。

The Pope will tell you how to be a Christian.'' And Protestants say, "No, no, no, no, no!

教皇会告诉你如何成为一名基督徒。”新教徒说:“不,不,不,不,不!

Pope?

教皇?

That's not the Pope's job.

那不是教皇的工作。

We can read the Bible for ourselves.

我们可以自己读圣经。

We will see how God tells us how to be.''

我们会看到上帝如何告诉我们如何做。”

That's the Protestant imagination that's inside these Puritans who are coming over.

这就是这些过来的清教徒内心的新教想象力。

It's a rebellious notion.

这是一种反叛的观念。

But it's also a dangerous notion.

但这也是一个危险的想法。

I mean, how are you going to set up a society where everybody is reading the key document?

我的意思是,你将如何建立一个每个人都在阅读关键文件的社会?

If everybody can read the Bible for themselves, how are you going hold society together, right?

如果每个人都能自己阅读圣经,你将如何让社会团结起来,对吧?

NARRATOR

And it would not be long before one person's ideas about God would threaten to tear apart Winthrop's fragile colony.

不久之后,一个人对上帝的看法就会威胁到温思罗普脆弱的殖民地。

MICHAEL WINSHIP

At the end of 1634, Anne Hutchinson and her husband arrive in Boston.

1634 年底,安妮·哈钦森 (Anne Hutchinson) 和她的丈夫抵达波士顿。

MARY BETH NORTON, Historian, Cornell University: She was the daughter of a clergyman.

玛丽·贝斯·诺顿,康奈尔大学历史学家:她是一位牧师的女儿。

That's all we know.

这就是我们所知道的。

But she must have been very well educated by her father or someone else.

但她一定受到了她父亲或其他人的良好教育。

She knew her Bible.

她熟悉她的圣经。

She could match scriptural references with anybody.

她可以将圣经参考资料与任何人相匹配。

And she was clearly very, very smart and very independent.

她显然非常非常聪明而且非常独立。

NARRATOR

Educated and well-off, Anne Hutchinson quickly became a prominent member of Boston society.

安妮·哈钦森受过良好的教育,生活富裕,很快就成为波士顿社会的杰出成员。

MARY BETH NORTON

There usually was a high-status woman present at births, and Anne Hutchinson was that person for Boston.

分娩时通常会有一位地位较高的女性在场,而安妮·哈钦森就是波士顿的那个人。

NARRATOR

As mother of 11 children, she was a reassuring presence to women facing the perils of childbirth.

作为 11 个孩子的母亲,她让面临分娩危险的女性感到安心。

MARY BETH NORTON

And so she participated in childbirth gatherings called "gossipings," and it was in that context that she began to spread her own ideas among the women of Boston.

因此,她参加了名为“八卦”的分娩聚会,正是在这种背景下,她开始在波士顿的妇女中传播自己的想法。

NARRATOR

Hutchinson had a riveting story to tell- God had spoken to her directly.

哈钦森有一个引人入胜的故事要讲——上帝直接对她说话了。

MICHAEL WINSHIP

She's having an intense prayer session, and then this verse rises up in her mind.

她正在进行一场激烈的祈祷,然后这节经文在她的脑海中浮现。

And the first part of this verse she interprets as God saying to her, "You're among the saved.

她将这节经文的第一部分解释为神对她说:“你是得救的人之一。

This is it.

就是这样。

This is my message to you.''

这是我给你的信息。”

NARRATOR

But for Puritans, being "saved'' could never be guaranteed.

但对于清教徒来说,永远无法保证“得救”。

Since Adam's fall, man was born damned, hell his destiny.

自从亚当堕落之后,人就生来就受到诅咒,他的命运就是地狱。

The only hope of God's salvation required Puritans to devote themselves to studying their Bible and to live a pious life.

上帝拯救的唯一希望要求清教徒致力于研究圣经并过虔诚的生活。

To understand God's will was a lifetime's struggle.

明白神的旨意是一生的奋斗。

MARY BETH NORTON

Puritans were supposed to wrestle with this idea.

清教徒应该努力思考这个想法。

They were never supposed to be sure that they are saved.

他们从来不应该确定自己是否得救。

And Anne Hutchinson basically says to Puritans, "Yes, you can be sure.

安妮·哈钦森基本上对清教徒说:“是的,你可以确定。

Yes, you can be sure if God speaks to you the way God has spoken to me.'''

是的,你可以确定神是否像神对我说话一样对你说话。”

NARRATOR

Hutchinson's story electrified her listeners.

哈钦森的故事让听众激动不已。

They gathered at her house to hear about her revelation from God, just yards from where the governor lived.

他们聚集在她家,聆听上帝对她的启示,距离州长住的地方只有几码远。

JOHN WINTHROP

She keeps open house for all comers, three score, four score people.

她为所有来访者开放,三人、四人。

She comments upon the doctrines, interprets all passages at her pleasure and expounds dark passages of Scripture.

她对教义进行评论,随心所欲地解释所有段落,并解释圣经中黑暗的段落。

NARRATOR

As much as Winthrop disliked her talk of messages from God, Hutchinson was a good Puritan and had broken no law.

尽管温思罗普不喜欢她谈论来自上帝的信息,但哈钦森是一个善良的清教徒,没有违反任何法律。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

This is what makes her so dangerous is because she is speaking the language of Puritanism itself- "The drama is happening inside each of us.

这就是她如此危险的原因,因为她说的是清教主义本身的语言——“戏剧正在我们每个人的内心发生。

God is speaking to each of us.

神正在对我们每个人说话。

We need to listen to that voice of God inside us.''

我们需要倾听我们内心上帝的声音。”

NARRATOR

And as Hutchinson's popularity grew, Winthrop feared for the future of his colony.

随着哈钦森越来越受欢迎,温思罗普开始担心他的殖民地的未来。

JOHN WINTHROP

Her doctrine appeals to many profane people because it is a very easy and an acceptable way to Heaven, to see nothing, to have to do nothing but wait for Christ to do all.

她的教义吸引了许多世俗的人,因为这是一种非常简单且可接受的通往天堂的方式,什么也看不见,什么也不用做,而是等待基督做一切。

NARRATOR

Hutchinson's easy path to heaven undermined Winthrop's orderly society.

哈钦森通往天堂的轻松之路破坏了温思罗普有序的社会。

He needed his people to struggle with their salvation.

他需要他的人民为拯救而奋斗。

STEPHEN MARINI, Historian of Religion, Wellesley College: It is relentless, difficult, arduous on the individual level.

斯蒂芬·马里尼(STEPHEN MARINI),韦尔斯利学院宗教史学家:对个人而言,这是无情的、困难的、艰巨的。

But it is fantastic social glue if everyone is doing this.

但如果每个人都这样做,那就是极好的社交粘合剂。

Everyone notices everything.

每个人都注意到一切。

Everyone has an opinion and a moral judgment on everybody else, on the criteria of what God's law says.

每个人都根据上帝律法的标准对其他人有自己的看法和道德判断。

It will hold together church, family, state.

它将把教会、家庭、国家团结在一起。

NARRATOR

Hutchinson's challenge to official doctrine threatened to destroy Winthrop's fledgling colony.

哈钦森对官方学说的挑战可能会摧毁温思罗普刚刚起步的殖民地。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

What happens if you start to lose control of your society and you're John Winthrop, right?

如果你开始失去对社会的控制,而你是约翰·温思罗普,会发生什么,对吧?

You need to be able to say, "No, no no, that's not what the Bible says.

你需要能够说:“不,不,圣经不是这么说的。

The Bible says such and so.

圣经是这么说的。

This is how we should run our society.''

这就是我们应该如何管理我们的社会。”

NARRATOR

Anxious ministers visited Winthrop.

忧心忡忡的部长们拜访了温斯罗普。

John Eliot from Roxbury, and from Salem, Hugh Peters, reported that some members of their congregations preferred to listen to Hutchinson's biblical interpretations to theirs.

来自罗克斯伯里的约翰·艾略特和来自塞勒姆的休·彼得斯报告说,他们的会众中的一些成员更愿意听哈钦森对圣经的解释,而不是他们自己的解释。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Why listen to the black-coated minister read a dry, boring sermon when you can go to Anne Hutchinson's house and hear this heartfelt, real thing?

当你可以去安妮·哈钦森家聆听这种发自内心的真实的布道时,为什么要听黑衣牧师宣读枯燥乏味的布道呢?

NARRATOR

And Hutchinson was gaining powerful allies who were attracted to her message- the minister John Wheelwright and Henry Vane, a fierce political adversary of John Winthrop's.

哈钦森正在赢得强大的盟友,他们被她的信息所吸引——部长约翰·惠尔赖特和约翰·温思罗普的激烈政治对手亨利·韦恩。

JOHN WINTHROP

I observe first her success.

我首先观察到她的成功。

She had in a short time insinuated herself into the hearts of much of the people, who grew into so reverent an esteem of her godliness and spiritual gifts, as look at her as a prophetess.

她在很短的时间内就融入了许多人的心中,人们对她的敬虔和属灵恩赐产生了如此崇敬的尊重,就像将她视为一位女先知一样。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

And that's where the Puritan men, who are running the society, say, "No no no no. God speaks through the Bible, and the Bible is mediated through us.''

这就是管理这个社会的清教徒说的:“不不不不。上帝通过圣经说话,而圣经是通过我们来传达的。”

NARRATOR

In November 1637, the General Court brought Anne Hutchinson to trial.

1637 年 11 月,普通法院对安妮·哈钦森进行了审判。

The charge was sedition.

罪名是煽动叛乱。

MICHAEL WINSHIP

Her sense of possession, her sense of self-confidence, her absolute refusal to be intimidated is extraordinary.

她的占有感、她的自信感、她绝对拒绝被恐吓的感觉都是非凡的。

JOHN WINTHROP

Mrs. Hutchinson, you are called here as one of those that have troubled the peace of the commonwealth and the churches here.

哈钦森夫人,您被称为扰乱联邦和这里教会的和平的人之一。

You have maintained a meeting and an assembly at your house which hath been condemned by the General Assembly as a thing not tolerable in the eyes of God nor fitting for your sex.

你在家里举行聚会和集会,这已被总会谴责为上帝眼中不能容忍的事情,也不适合你的性别。

ANNE HUTCHINSON

I hear no things laid to my charge.

我没有听到任何指控我的事情。

JOHN WINTHROP

I have told you some already.

我已经告诉过你一些了。

And more I can tell you.

我可以告诉你更多。

JOHN WINTHROP

Have I not named you some already?

我不是已经给你点了一些名字了吗?

ANNE HUTCHINSON

What have I said or done?

我说了或做了什么?

JOHN WINTHROP

You have joined with them in the faction.

你已经加入了他们的派系。

ANNE HUTCHINSON

In what faction did I join with them?

我加入了他们的哪个派系?

JOHN WINTHROP

Why, in entertaining them.

为什么,为了娱乐他们。

ANNE HUTCHINSON

What law have I broken?

我触犯了什么法律?

MICHAEL WINSHIP

Her initial defense is to nitpick absolutely everything that's thrown at her.

她最初的防御是对扔给她的所有事情都挑剔。

He hasn't thought out his prosecution, and then she rips him to shreds.

他还没有想好要起诉他,然后她把他撕成了碎片。

You read the transcript and you just watch him squirming with frustration.

你读了文字记录,只看到他因沮丧而蠕动。

JOHN WINTHROP

We find it greatly prejudicial to the state to seduce many honest persons who are called to these meetings.

我们发现,引诱许多诚实的人被召集参加这些会议对国家有极大的损害。

Your opinions, being different from the word of God, may seduce simple souls who resort unto you.

你的观点与上帝的话语不同,可能会吸引那些求助于你的简单灵魂。

ANNE HUTCHINSON

Sir, I do not believe that to be so.

先生,我不相信是这样的。

JOHN WINTHROP

Well, we then see how it is that we must therefore put it away from you or restrain you from making this course.

好吧,然后我们就会看到为什么我们必须把它远离你或限制你参加这门课程。

ANNE HUTCHINSON

If you have a rule for it from God's word, you may.

如果你有神的话语的规则,你就可以这样做。

JOHN WINTHROP

We are your judges, not you ours!

我们是你的法官,而不是你的!

And we must compel you to do it.

我们必须强迫你这样做。

ANNE HUTCHINSON

If it please you by authority to put it down, I freely let you for I am subject to your authority.

如果你愿意把它写下来,我会自由地让你写下来,因为我服从你的权威。

[www.pbs.org: Read the trial transcript]

[www.pbs.org:阅读审判记录]

NARRATOR

The court adjourned for the night.

法庭休庭至当晚。

MARY BETH NORTON, Historian, Cornell University: He's accustomed to questioning people.

玛丽·贝斯·诺顿,康奈尔大学历史学家:他习惯于质疑别人。

He's accustomed to questioning miscreants who've come up before him.

他习惯于审问在他之前出现的恶棍。

He's accustomed to getting confessions.

他已经习惯了得到坦白。

That's what magistrates did.

地方法官就是这么做的。

They got confessions.

他们得到了坦白。

He can't get a confession out of her.

他无法从她口中得到坦白。

It has to have been extraordinarily frustrating for him.

这对他来说一定是非常令人沮丧的。

NARRATOR

For John Winthrop, the day had been a disaster.

对于约翰·温思罗普来说,这一天是一场灾难。

But overnight, the situation was to change dramatically.

但一夜之间,情况发生了巨大的变化。

No one knows why Anne Hutchinson changed her approach to the trial, but the next morning she arrived in court determined to share the truth that God had revealed to her.

没有人知道为什么安妮·哈钦森改变了她的审判方式,但第二天早上,她到达法庭,决心分享上帝向她揭示的真相。

MARY BETH NORTON

It's definite hubris.

这绝对是傲慢。

Absolutely.

绝对的。

But she's convinced that she knows the truth.

但她确信自己知道真相。

And in the end, that's her downfall.

最终,这就是她的失败。

ANNE HUTCHINSON

If you please to give me leave, I shall give you the ground of what I know to be true.

如果您允许我离开,我将为您提供我所知道的真实情况的依据。

I bless the Lord.

我赞美主。

He hath let me see which was the clear ministry and which the wrong.

他让我看到哪一个是明确的事工,哪一个是错误的。

Since that time, he hath let me distinguish between the voice of my beloved and the voice of Moses, the voice of John the Baptist and the voice of the antichrist.

从那时起,他让我区分我所爱的声音和摩西的声音,施洗约翰的声音和敌基督的声音。

Now, if you condemn me for speaking what in my conscience I know to be truth, I must commit myself unto the Lord.

现在,如果你谴责我所说的话是我良心所知道的真理,我就必须将自己交托给主。

THOMAS DUDLEY, Deputy Governor: How do you know that that was the Spirit?

托马斯·达德利,副州长:你怎么知道那就是圣灵?

ANNE HUTCHINSON

How did Abraham know that it was God who bid him offer his son?

亚伯拉罕怎么知道是神吩咐他献上自己的儿子呢?

ANNE HUTCHINSON

So to me by an immediate revelation.

对我来说这是一个直接的启示。

THOMAS DUDLEY

By an immediate revelation.

通过立即的启示。

ANNE HUTCHINSON

You have power over my body, but the Lord Jesus hath power over my body and soul.

你对我的身体有权力,但主耶稣对我的身体和灵魂有权力。

And assure yourselves this much, if you go on in this course, you will bring a curse upon you and your posterity, and the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

你们要向自己保证,如果你们继续这样做,你们就会给你们和你们的子孙带来咒诅,这是主亲口说的。

MARY BETH NORTON

She dares to say that God has told them that if they do anything to her, they will be doomed to all eternity.

她敢说上帝已经告诉他们,如果他们对她做任何事,他们将注定永远。

They're not about to listen to that revelation.

他们不会听这个启示。

JOHN WINTHROP

I am persuaded that the revelation she brings forth is delusion.

我确信她带来的启示是错觉。

Mrs. Hutchinson, the sentence of the court you hear is that you are to be banished from out of our jurisdiction as a woman not fit for our society.

哈钦森夫人,您听到的法庭判决是,您将作为不适合我们社会的女性被驱逐出我们的管辖范围。

You're to be imprisoned until the court shall send you away.

你将被监禁直到法庭将你送走。

ANNE HUTCHINSON

I desire to know what reason I am to be banished.

我想知道我被驱逐的原因是什么。

JOHN WINTHROP

The court knows the reason and is satisfied.

朝廷知其理,遂满意。

NARRATOR

In the spring of 1638, Anne Hutchinson and her family were forced to leave the colony forever.

1638 年春天,安妮·哈钦森 (Anne Hutchinson) 和她的家人被迫永远离开殖民地。

But her influence would outlive both her and John Winthrop.

但她的影响力比她和约翰·温思罗普都更长久。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Anne Hutchinson is the future in the sense of religious conscience, in the sense that conscience speaks out against the state.

安妮·哈钦森(Anne Hutchinson)是宗教良心意义上的未来,良心公开反对国家。

And so the America that's going to be founded later on is going to make room for Anne Hutchinson.

因此,后来建立的美国将为安妮·哈钦森腾出空间。

We're not going to banish her.

我们不会驱逐她。

We're not going to put her in jail.

我们不会把她关进监狱。

But she's also the future in the sense of this, "Religion really happens inside us,'' you know, that "the drama is inside us.

但从某种意义上说,她也是未来,“宗教确实发生在我们内心,”你知道,“戏剧就在我们内心。”

And God can speak to any of us.'''

上帝可以对我们任何人说话。'''

NARRATOR

But it would be more than a century before America would become fertile ground for Anne Hutchinson's ideas.

但美国要成为安妮·哈钦森思想的沃土还需要一个多世纪的时间。

And it would await the arrival of more than a million people of different nations and faiths.

它将等待着来自不同国家和信仰的超过一百万人的到来。

Lutherans, Baptists, Presbyterians, Anglicans, Quakers, Anabaptists, Jews, Methodists, Catholics- all came seeking to recreate themselves in a land that was still taking shape.

路德教会、浸信会、长老会、英国圣公会、贵格会、再洗礼会、犹太教、卫理公会、天主教徒——所有人都来到这片仍在成形的土地上寻求重建。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

People coming over here are disconnected from their homes, from their traditions, from their jobs, from their extended families.

来到这里的人们与他们的家园、他们的传统、他们的工作以及他们的大家庭脱节。

And they're coming over to this new place.

他们即将来到这个新地方。

And it's almost like there's this whisper in the ear of the colonists and the early Americans, "Who are we?

就好像殖民者和早期美国人的耳边有这样的低语:“我们是谁?

Who are we Americans who come from such different places and have so many religious backgrounds?

来自不同地方、拥有如此多宗教背景的美国人是谁?

And what's the story that we're playing out?''

我们正在上演的故事是什么?”

NARRATOR

One man offered an answer.

一名男子给出了答案。

Reverend George Whitefield believed he could unite people with a simple message that everyone could share.

乔治·怀特菲尔德牧师相信他可以通过每个人都可以分享的简单信息来团结人们。

For Whitefield, the surest path for a people seeking a new identity lay in being born again.

对于怀特菲尔德来说,一个民族寻求新身份的最可靠途径就是重生。

STEPHEN MARINI

Whitefield has experienced something he wants to call spiritual rebirth, which he defines as the transformation of the soul by the Holy Spirit of God.

怀特菲尔德经历了他称之为精神重生的事情,他将其定义为上帝的圣灵对灵魂的转变。

Boom, we're back to this perennial radical Protestant idea of immediate connection between God and the individual human soul.

繁荣,我们又回到了这种长期激进的新教观念,即上帝与人类个体灵魂之间的直接联系。

And he says, "That's it.

他说:“就是这样。

It really happens.

它确实发生了。

It happened to me.''

这发生在我身上。”

NARRATOR

Rebirth, he believed, could happen to anyone, anywhere.

他相信,重生可能发生在任何地方的任何人身上。

It had happened to him years earlier, as a student at Oxford.

多年前,当他还是牛津大学的学生时,这种事就发生在他身上。

Preaching in England, he'd achieved huge popularity but run afoul of his Anglican superiors for his unconventional message.

他在英国传教时获得了巨大的声望,但因其非传统的信息而与英国圣公会的上级发生了冲突。

Now he'd come to America.

现在他来到了美国。

And as he traveled the country, preaching wherever he stopped, he found people eager for his message of salvation.

当他走遍全国,无论走到哪里都传道时,他发现人们渴望他的救赎信息。

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: Even contemporary Christians now, even many evangelicals, they just don't believe in sin anymore.

斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗,波士顿大学宗教学教授:即使是现在的当代基督徒,甚至许多福音派人士,他们也不再相信罪了。

But in this period in American history, people believed in sin.

但在美国历史的这一时期,人们相信罪孽。

And what they believed is that we were born sinful.

他们相信我们生来就有罪。

We're not born good.

我们生来就不好。

Like, everything's not OK.

就像,一切都不太好。

We're born with things haywire.

我们生来就有些混乱。

And unless something unhaywires us, turns us around, we're going to go to hell.

除非有什么事情让我们失控、扭转局面,否则我们就会下地狱。

And because the sin is so deep and so powerful and so strong, it requires, like, a powerful, you know, "Voom'' to turn it around, and that is the moment of rebirth.

因为罪是如此深、如此强大、如此强烈,所以它需要,就像一个强大的,你知道的,“嗡”来扭转它,那就是重生的时刻。

So he decides he's not going to read these boring sermons like these other ministers are doing.

因此,他决定不再像其他牧师那样阅读这些无聊的布道。

They stand up in the churches and read these boring sermons that people are required to come to sit and listen to, hour after hour after hour, and not just on Sundays, either.

他们站在教堂里,读这些无聊的布道,人们需要坐下来听,一小时又一小时,而且不仅仅是在周日。

And he's going to stand up and he's going to tell stories and he's going to speak from his heart.

他会站起来,他会讲故事,他会发自内心地说话。

This is the key thing.

这是关键。

He's going to speak from his heart.

他会说出他的心里话。

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: Methinks I see the good old man walk ing with his dear son in his hand-

乔治·怀特菲尔德:我想我看到那位善良的老人手里拿着他亲爱的儿子散步——

HARRY S. STOUT

He's creating a scene.

他正在创造一个场景。

He's creating a dramatic scene.

他正在创造一个戏剧性的场景。

And the capacity, the faculty that he wants to draw on more than anything else is not understanding but imagination.

他最想利用的能力、能力不是理解力,而是想象力。

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: -an d now and then, looking upon him, loving him, and then turning aside to weep.

乔治·怀特菲尔德:——时不时地看着他,爱他,然后转过身去哭泣。

HARRY S.

哈里·S。

STOUT, Historian, Yale University: It catches the audience by surprise.

STOUT,耶鲁大学历史学家:这让观众大吃一惊。

They're caught up in the story and the description of Abraham and Isaac walking up the mountain, tears streaming down Abraham's face.

他们沉浸在亚伯拉罕和以撒上山的故事和描述中,泪水从亚伯拉罕的脸上流下来。

And they're kind of locked into this message.

他们有点被这个信息所束缚。

It's one they've heard before, but he had a voice that could make people melt.

这是他们以前听过的声音,但他的声音让人融化。

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: I see the tears trickle down the Patriarch Abraham's cheek.

乔治·怀特菲尔德:我看到泪水从族长亚伯拉罕的脸颊上淌下来。

And out of the heart and out of the abundance of the heart, the abundance of the heart, he cries, "Adieu, adieu, my son.

他发自内心,发自内心的丰富,内心的丰富,呼喊着:“再见,再见,我的孩子。

God gave thee to me, and God calls thee away.''

上帝把你交给了我,上帝又召唤你离开。”

HARRY S. STOUT

And then there's this abrupt turn, dramatic turn.

然后就是这个突然的转折,戏剧性的转折。

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: I see you affected.

乔治·怀特菲尔德:我看到你受到了影响。

I see your hearts affected.

我看到你们的心受到了影响。

I see your eyes weep.

我看到你的眼睛流泪了。

And I would willingly hope that you are ready to say it is the love of God in giving Jesus Christ to die for our sins.

我愿意希望你准备好说,让耶稣基督为我们的罪而死是神的爱。

HARRY S. STOUT

He bursts onto the scene and he generates, in his own unique way, religion in a new key, a new way of understanding and engaging religion that was unprecedented.

他突然出现在舞台上,并以自己独特的方式创造了一种新的宗教,一种前所未有的理解和参与宗教的新方式。

It's the sincerity of a missionary combined with the thrill of a performer.

这是传教士的真诚与表演者的兴奋相结合。

NARRATOR

As George Whitefield traveled through colonial America, he encountered dozens of different religious sects, but he quickly discovered that how they were treated varied enormously.

当乔治·怀特菲尔德穿越美国殖民地时,他遇到了数十个不同的宗教派别,但他很快发现他们所受到的待遇差异很大。

The Puritans had renamed themselves the Congregational Church and were the official established religion in Massachusetts, Connecticut and New Hampshire.

清教徒将自己更名为公理会,并成为马萨诸塞州、康涅狄格州和新罕布什尔州的官方宗教。

Funded by local taxes, they governed hand in hand with the civil authorities.

他们由地方税收资助,与民政当局携手治理。

Other dissenting denominations were barely tolerated.

其他持不同政见的教派几乎无法容忍。

Those groups - Baptists, Quakers, Lutherans, Catholics and Presbyterians - could find a home in other colonies.

这些团体——浸信会、贵格会、路德会、天主教和长老会——可以在其他殖民地找到家园。

Rhode Island, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Delaware had no official established church and tolerated many different religions.

罗德岛州、新泽西州、宾夕法尼亚州和特拉华州没有官方建立的教会,并且容忍许多不同的宗教。

But further south, a single official church had kept its iron grip.

但更南边,一个官方教会仍然保持着铁腕的控制。

Maryland, Virginia, the Carolinas and Georgia were all Anglican colonies.

马里兰州、弗吉尼亚州、卡罗来纳州和佐治亚州都是英国圣公会的殖民地。

Dissenting faiths were treated with suspicion.

持不同信仰的人受到怀疑。

In March 1740, Whitefield arrived in Charleston, the seat of South Carolina's powerful Anglican establishment.

1740 年 3 月,怀特菲尔德抵达查尔斯顿,南卡罗来纳州强大的英国圣公会机构所在地。

STEPHEN MARINI

They think of themselves as the true religion that ought to have the state as its partner, and the dissenters either shouldn't be here or "We have to keep them under control.''

他们认为自己是真正的宗教,应该有国家作为合作伙伴,持不同政见者要么不应该在这里,要么“我们必须控制他们。”

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The whole idea that we have now of religious pluralism, religious diversity is a good thing- that was just- it wasn't something hardly anyone thought of back then.

我们现在所拥有的宗教多元化、宗教多样性的整体观念是一件好事——只是——当时几乎没有人想到这一点。

The idea was that it was a threat to the unity of the state.

这个想法是,这是对国家统一的威胁。

NARRATOR

As an Anglican minister himself, Whitefield was welcomed into the pulpits of Anglican Charleston.

作为一名英国圣公会牧师,怀特菲尔德受到英国圣公会查尔斯顿的讲坛欢迎。

But his message of rebirth was not part of their tradition and shocked his fellow ministers.

但他的重生信息并不属于他们的传统,这让他的部长们感到震惊。

STEPHEN MARINI

They say, "This is disorderly.

他们说:“这是无序的。

There's not an article about you must be born again.

没有一篇文章是关于你必须重生的。

You're saying it's necessary to be a true Christian.

你是说成为一名真正的基督徒是必要的。

We actually don't believe that.

我们其实不相信这一点。

We think if you conform and lead a morally good life, you're in.'' He says, "Oh, no, that's not right.'' And they say, "OK, you're not welcome here.'' He says, "Fine, I'll go out and preach in the fields.

我们认为,如果你顺从并过着道德上良好的生活,你就可以加入。”他说,“哦,不,这是不对的。”他们说,“好吧,这里不欢迎你。”他说,“好吧,我会出去到田里传道。

We'll send some fliers around and people will come.'' And they did.

我们会散发一些传单,人们就会来。”他们确实这么做了。

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: The Son of man comes to save all that are lost, all of every nation and language that feel, bewail, and are truly desirous to be delivered of their lost state.

乔治·怀特菲尔德:人子来拯救所有失丧的人,所有每一个国家、每一个语言的人,他们感到、哀叹并真正渴望摆脱失落的状态。

NARRATOR

His Anglican superiors were appalled.

他的英国圣公会上级感到震惊。

They'd banned him from their pulpits, but he continued to preach.

他们禁止他登上讲坛,但他继续讲道。

STEPHEN MARINI

The Baptists and Presbyterians invite him over to preach, and he does.

浸信会和长老会邀请他来传教,他就这么做了。

It's a scandal.

这是一个丑闻。

The place is packed.

这个地方挤满了人。

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: He will in no wise c ast out, for he's the same today as he was yesterday.

乔治·怀特菲尔德:他绝不会被抛弃,因为他今天和昨天一样。

He comes to sinners now, as well as formerly.

他现在和以前一样来到罪人身边。

And I hope-

我希望——

NARRATOR

For Whitefield to preach in front of dissenting faiths was a direct challenge to Anglican authority.

对于怀特菲尔德来说,在不同信仰面前讲道是对英国圣公会权威的直接挑战。

FRANK LAMBERT, Historian, Purdue University: Whitefield ignored denominational lines.

弗兰克·兰伯特,普渡大学历史学家:怀特菲尔德忽视了宗派界限。

His message was, "There's the one thing needful.

他传达的信息是:“只有一件事是必要的。

It's not needful that you are Presbyterian or Congregationalist or Baptist, or what have you.

您不必是长老会、公理会或浸信会,或者其他什么宗教。

It's only needful that you have this life-changing Christ-inspired new birth experience.''

你只需要拥有这种改变生活、受基督启发的新生体验即可。”

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: And I hope this day I will be sent out to bring you home, the lost sheep of the House of Israel.

乔治·怀特菲尔德:我希望今天我能被派去带你回家,以色列家族迷失的羊。

What say you?

你说什么?

What say you?

你说什么?

Come, friends.

来吧,朋友们。

Would weeping, would crying prevail on you?

你会哭泣吗?你会哭泣吗?

I could wish my head were made of water and my eyes a fountain of tears that I might weep out every argument and melt you into love.

我希望我的头是水做的,我的眼睛是泪水的泉源,这样我就可以哭出每一次争吵,把你融化成爱。

FRANK LAMBERT

There were plenty of people who said, "This is a sham.

有很多人说:“这是骗局。

You're bringing disorder.

你正在带来混乱。

Where's the verification?'' I mean, anybody can say, "I've had this experience, God has taken over me.'' In a sense, it was Anne Hutchinson's experience on a big scale.

验证在哪里?”我的意思是,任何人都可以说,“我有过这样的经历,上帝接管了我。”从某种意义上说,这是安妮·哈钦森的大规模经历。

Now everybody is having this experience directly from God.

现在每个人都直接从上帝那里获得这种体验。

NARRATOR

Like Anne Hutchinson, Whitefield had fallen afoul of a religious authority that distrusted any message that gave an individual power over their religious experience.

和安妮·哈钦森一样,怀特菲尔德也与宗教权威发生了冲突,宗教权威不相信任何赋予个人权力对其宗教体验的信息。

HARRY S. STOUT

They were still part of a view of the world as a world divided between superiors and inferiors, and you had to know your place.

他们仍然持有这样一种世界观:世界分为上等人和下等人,你必须知道自己的位置。

And if you didn't know your place, order would break down and all chaos would ensue.

如果你不知道自己的位置,秩序就会被打破,一切混乱都会随之而来。

Whitefield smelled the dissolution of the old aristocratic order.

怀特菲尔德嗅到了旧贵族秩序解体的味道。

He saw that what had been was not what was going to be.

他看到过去的情况并非未来的情况。

NARRATOR

In 1740, Whitefield journeyed 5,000 miles through America, preaching more than 350 times in 75 towns and cities.

1740 年,怀特菲尔德旅行了 5,000 英里,穿越美国,在 75 个城镇布道了 350 多次。

Twenty thousand came to hear him on Boston Common, twelve thousand in Philadelphia, eight thousand in New York City.

两万人来到波士顿公园听他演讲,一万二千人来到费城,八千人来到纽约市。

In 15 months, as much as a quarter of the country heard his message.

15 个月内,全国四分之一的人听到了他的信息。

HARRY S. STOUT

People couldn't talk about anything other than Whitefield.

除了怀特菲尔德之外,人们不能谈论任何事情。

He becomes secular news, as well as sacred.

他成为世俗的新闻,同时也成为神圣的。

The only name that Americans would recognize more than George Whitefield would have been King George III.

美国人唯一比乔治·怀特菲尔德更熟悉的名字就是乔治三世国王。

DANIEL DREISBACH, Legal Scholar, American University: People that in a previous age would never sit down together in a religious setting, would not break bread with one another, and yet they're being brought together by a common message of revival.

丹尼尔·德赖斯巴赫(DANIEL DREISBACH),美国大学法律学者:在以前的时代,人们永远不会在宗教场合坐在一起,也不会互相分享面包,但现在他们被一个共同的复兴信息聚集在一起。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

There's this wrestling match between you and God.

你和上帝之间有一场摔跤比赛。

And are you going to keep fighting God?

你还要继续与神对抗吗?

Are you going to collapse into the arms of God?

你会倒在上帝的怀抱里吗?

Are you going to, you know, feel the conviction of sin that's upon us?

你知道吗,你会感受到我们身上的罪孽吗?

Are you going to pretend it's not there?

你要假装它不存在吗?

Are you going to turn to Jesus and have him save you?

你愿意转向耶稣并让他来拯救你吗?

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: God had shown me what true religion was.

乔治·怀特菲尔德:上帝向我展示了什么是真正的宗教。

It was a ray of Divine light that instantaneously darted in upon my soul.

那是一道神光,瞬间射入了我的灵魂。

YOUNG GIRL

Being at a meeting, I found my heart in some measure drawn forth to God.

在一次聚会中,我发现我的心在某种程度上被吸引到了神面前。

Sermon being over, my soul was filled with ravishing transport.

讲道结束,我的灵魂充满了令人陶醉的感动。

My desires increased and my heart still reaching forth after God, at last I fainted.

我的欲望越来越强烈,我的心仍然向着神,最后我晕倒了。

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIE LD: To be in him not only by outward profession, but by an inward change and purity of heart-

乔治·怀特菲尔德:要成为他的一部分,不仅要通过外在的表白,还要通过内心的改变和内心的纯洁——

MAN

To talk so powerfully and wonderfully of the thing of God in Christ-

如此有力而奇妙地谈论神在基督里的事——

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: To be in him, so as to be mystically united to him by a true and lively faith, and thereby to receive spiritual virtue from him-

乔治·怀特菲尔德:在他里面,通过真实而活泼的信仰与他神秘地结合在一起,从而从他那里获得精神美德——

SARA

When the Reverend Mr. Whitefield came here and I attended his preaching-

当怀特菲尔德牧师来到这里,我参加他的布道时——

MARILYN

-the best way.

-最好的办法。

He speaks from a heart all aglow with love and pours out a torrent of eloquence which is-

他的讲话发自一颗充满爱的心,滔滔不绝地滔滔不绝——

MAN

-and are full of the love of God and Christ-

-并且充满了上帝和基督的爱-

YOUNG GIRL

And looking forward, I see a place I thought was heaven.

展望未来,我看到了一个我认为是天堂的地方。

MARILYN

New purposes and a new light from the day on which they heard-

从他们听到的那一天起,新的目的和新的曙光——

SARA

My darkness vanished.

我的黑暗消失了。

My distress fled-

我的苦恼逃走了——

MAN

-were it not by the spirit and the power of the Almighty.

——如果不是全能者的精神和力量。

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: -in such a manner as the apostle, speaking of himself-

乔治·怀特菲尔德:——就像使徒谈论他自己一样——

YOUNG GIRL

-and coming near, I see the gate standing open.

——走近了,我看到门开着。

HARRY S. STOUT

And the next thing that happens is the realization, "We are the people.

接下来发生的事情是认识到:“我们是人民。

No one can silence this.

没有人能够对此保持沉默。

No one can put this down.

没有人能放下这一点。

There is no standing army in the New World.

新世界没有常备军。

There is no big police force.

没有庞大的警察队伍。

We are the law.''

我们就是法律。”

NARRATOR

But the people were not the law, and the established church was.

但人民不是法律,而建立的教会才是。

In Massachusetts, the Congregational minister Charles Chauncy began to publicly challenge Whitefield's populist appeal.

在马萨诸塞州,公理会牧师查尔斯·昌西开始公开挑战怀特菲尔德的民粹主义诉求。

Rev.

牧师。

CHARLES CHAUNCY: Reverend Sir, the affection of popularity is the ruination of the soul and the destruction of understanding.

查尔斯·昌西:牧师先生,大众的喜爱是灵魂的毁灭和理解力的毁灭。

But how wide am I from the mark to talk of conscience or scruple to one who is unsteady and variable as a weather-cock, and is yet enthusiast enough to boast of his frequent intercourse with the Almighty.

但是,对于一个像风向标一样不稳定、多变的人,却又热衷于吹嘘他与全能者的频繁交往,我离谈论良心或顾忌的范围有多大呢?

NARRATOR

Chauncy was an influential Boston minister who believed the new spiritual enthusiasm was leading congregations away from reason, away from the established church, towards social chaos.

昌西是一位颇具影响力的波士顿牧师,他相信新的精神热情正在导致会众远离理性,远离既定的教会,走向社会混乱。

FRANK LAMBERT

Chauncy said, "This isn't God's work.

昌西说:“这不是上帝的工作。

God's not a God of disorder.

神不是一个混乱的神。

This is the work of a slick promoter.''

这是一个狡猾的发起人的工作。”

Rev.

牧师。

GEORGE WHITEFIELD: Reverend Chauncy represents things in the most ridiculous dress.

乔治·怀特菲尔德:昌西牧师穿着最可笑的衣服代表着事物。

He takes upon to condemn all the converts to a man, though he could not be acquainted with a hundredth part of them.

他把所有皈依者都定为一个人,尽管他不认识其中的百分之一。

NARRATOR

But Whitefield was no longer that well acquainted with his flock, either.

但怀特菲尔德也不再那么熟悉他的羊群了。

New, extreme ideas were finding a voice, and an following.

新的、极端的想法正在找到声音和追随者。

Preachers like James Davenport went further than Whitefield, urging congregations to purify their faith and reject modern religion.

像詹姆斯·达文波特这样的传教士比怀特菲尔德走得更远,敦促会众净化他们的信仰并拒绝现代宗教。

He ordered his followers to burn the books of Charles Chauncy and other contemporary ministers.

他命令他的追随者烧毁查尔斯·昌西和其他当代部长的书籍。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

For Chauncy, reason is supposed to be important in religion and religion is supposed to be reasonable, which has to do with order.

对于昌西来说,理性在宗教中应该很重要,宗教应该是合理的,这与秩序有关。

You know, what's going to happen to this society if it's turned so topsy-turvy?

你知道,如果这个社会变得如此混乱,将会发生什么?

NARRATOR

If Davenport's extremism could be dismissed by the establishment, it was more difficult to ignore the respected voices that now led the growing spiritual movement.

如果当权者能够驳斥达文波特的极端主义,那么就更难忽视现在领导着不断发展的精神运动的受人尊敬的声音了。

Prominent thinkers such as Jonathan Edwards preached on the necessity of rebirth for everyone.

乔纳森·爱德华兹等著名思想家宣扬每个人都有重生的必要性。

And Gilbert Tennent focused his attention on ministers who had not been reborn.

而吉尔伯特·坦南特则将注意力集中在那些还没有重生的牧师身上。

FRANK LAMBERT

People begin to go back to their former congregations and challenge their ministers.

人们开始回到以前的教会并挑战他们的牧师。

"Have you had a new birth experience?'' And if the answer was no, or if the minister could not satisfy them that he had, one of two things often happened.

“你有过新生的经历吗?”如果答案是否定的,或者牧师不能让他们满意,那么经常会发生以下两种情况之一。

One, he was fired, or two, people would leave and form their own congregation.

一是他被解雇了,二是人们会离开并组建自己的会众。

NARRATOR

Chauncy's fears were being realized.

昌西的担心正在成为现实。

Established religions were fragmenting.

既定的宗教正在分裂。

Those fired by the message of rebirth were separating and offering people an alternative.

那些被重生信息解雇的人正在分离并为人们提供另一种选择。

FRANK LAMBERT

So here is the day of services.

所以今天是礼拜日。

There's the regular service.

那里有常规服务。

Now there's an alternative.

现在有一个替代方案。

You've got a choice.

你有一个选择。

STEPHEN MARINI, Historian of Religion, Wellesley College: If I'm being presented with multiple options, surely I must have the right to choose among them.

斯蒂芬·马里尼(STEPHEN MARINI),韦尔斯利学院宗教史学家:如果我有多种选择,我肯定有权在其中进行选择。

It's not self-evident which one of these is true.

其中哪一个是正确的并不是不言而喻的。

And if God's spirit speaks to me through one of them, the state has no standing in telling me I shouldn't or I couldn't.

如果上帝的灵通过其中之一对我说话,国家就没有立场告诉我我不应该或不能。

The spirit is the absolute empowerment of my individuality.

精神是我个性的绝对赋权。

So my individual choice is not just an option, it is a divinely mandated course of action.

因此,我个人的选择不仅仅是一种选择,而是神圣授权的行动方针。

NARRATOR

People began to insist that it was their right to worship as they wanted in a church of their choice.

人们开始坚持认为,在自己选择的教堂里按照自己的意愿进行礼拜是他们的权利。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

So people start to have a sense of ownership over their own experience.

因此,人们开始对自己的经历产生主人翁意识。

It isn't so much they're reading some book and coming up with "Oh, liberty!'' It's more that they have the experience of liberty.

与其说他们读了一些书并想出了“哦,自由!”,不如说他们拥有自由的体验。

They have experienced liberty.

他们体验到了自由。

And this is the language Christians talk about, Christian freedom.

这就是基督徒谈论的语言:基督徒自由。

They've have had the experience of freedom, of being freed from sin.

他们已经体验到了自由,摆脱了罪恶。

NARRATOR

Men such as the Baptist preacher Isaac Backus and the Congregational minister Jonathan Mayhew led calls for an end to established religion.

浸信会传教士艾萨克·巴克斯和公理会牧师乔纳森·梅休等人带头呼吁结束既定宗教。

Their voices joined the chorus for political liberty that was sweeping through the colonies.

他们的声音加入了席卷整个殖民地的政治自由的大合唱。

The arguments over taxation and representation that had gathered momentum through the 1760s now found common cause with the cry for religious liberty.

关于税收和代表权的争论在 1760 年代愈演愈烈,现在与宗教自由的呼声找到了共同的理由。

The revolutionary fervor had acquired a new moral force.

革命热情获得了新的道德力量。

STEPHEN MARINI

In the act of defending their rights and their good service to the empire, they characterized themselves as innocent and virtuous.

在捍卫自己的权利和为帝国服务的过程中,他们表现出自己的天真和善良。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

And in that spirit of things, the revolution becomes- if not inevitable, it becomes perfectly logical.

本着这种精神,革命即使不是不可避免,也变得完全合乎逻辑。

STEPHEN MARINI

And now- now the God of nations will surely look on our cause and see that it is just.'' And the sermons, dozens of them, begin articulating just this scenario.

现在——现在,万国之神肯定会审视我们的事业,并认为它是正义的。”数十次布道开始阐述这一场景。

MINISTER

King George III, adieu!

乔治三世国王,再见!

No more shall we cry to you for protection!

我们不再向你呼求保护!

No more shall we bleed in defense of your person, your breech of convenant.

我们不会再为了保护你的人身、你的背弃契约而流血。

The God of glory is on our side and will fight for us.

荣耀的神站在我们这一边,会为我们而战。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

And so as the farmer is picking up the rifle and putting down the plow and marching off, yes, he's thinking about, "I want rights.'' You know, "I want to be able to run my own society.'' But he's also thinking, "This is righteous.

因此,当农民拿起步枪,放下犁,大步走开时,是的,他在想,“我想要权利。”你知道,“我希望能够管理自己的社会。”但他也在想,“这是正义的。”

This is a righteous cause.

这是一个正义的事业。

And God is with us in this cause.''

在这个事业中,上帝与我们同在。”

MINISTER

We have reason to conclude that the cause of this American continent against the measures of a cruel, bloody and vindictive ministry is the cause of God.

我们有理由得出结论,美洲大陆反对残酷、血腥和报复性事工措施的事业是上帝的事业。

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: I think America is a story.

斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗,波士顿大学宗教学教授:我认为美国是一个故事。

And Americans, as they move - as they first come here, as they move west, as they move out into the world - they're telling a story.

而美国人,当他们移动时——当他们第一次来到这里时,当他们向西移动时,当他们走向世界时——他们正在讲述一个故事。

And the story they're telling is a Biblical story.

他们讲述的故事是圣经故事。

I think it's the Exodus story.

我认为这是出埃及记的故事。

They're telling a story about the movement of a people out of slavery into freedom, out of the old world into the new, out of the place of the Pharaoh, or George III, into this place of freedom.

他们讲述的是一个关于一个民族摆脱奴隶制走向自由、从旧世界进入新世界、从法老或乔治三世统治的地方进入自由之地的故事。

And this started to become a new world instead of just the old world in a new place.

这开始成为一个新世界,而不仅仅是旧世界在一个新的地方。

And so much of what drives the story of America is figuring out what that new thing should be.

推动美国故事发展的大部分因素是弄清楚新事物应该是什么。

Episode 2: A New Eden [The words spoken by the actors in this film are from transcripts, sermons and personal journals of the characters they portray.]

第2集:新伊甸园[本片中演员所说的话来自他们所扮演的角色的文字记录、布道和个人日记。]

LAUREN F.

劳伦·F.

WINNER, Historian of Religion, Duke University: OK, you've created this nation.

获胜者,杜克大学宗教史学家:好的,你创造了这个国家。

What's the story?

这是什么故事?

What's the story of this nation?

这个民族有什么故事?

What does it mean to be an American?

成为美国人意味着什么?

Suddenly, you have both opportunity but also the imperative to construct something of an identity.

突然间,你既有机会,也有必要构建某种身份。

NARRATOR

For Thomas Jefferson, the new republic must be founded with religious freedom.

对于托马斯·杰斐逊来说,新共和国必须建立在宗教自由的基础上。

And that, he believed, was a God-given right.

他相信,这是上帝赋予的权利。

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: One thing he says is, you know, "God created us in such a way that we can make our religious choices.

斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗,波士顿大学宗教学教授:他说的一件事是,你知道,“上帝创造了我们,让我们可以做出自己的宗教选择。

Who is the state to tell us something that God chose not to tell us?"

谁能告诉我们一些上帝选择不告诉我们的事情?”

NARRATOR

It was not just a matter of principle.

这不仅仅是一个原则问题。

He had already witnessed the struggle for religious freedom with his own eyes.

他已经亲眼目睹了争取宗教自由的斗争。

And his remarkable partnership with the Baptists in his home state of Virginia would help define what freedom would mean for America.

他与家乡弗吉尼亚州浸信会的出色合作将有助于定义自由对美国意味着什么。

In 1773, 27-year-old Jeremiah Moore, a Baptist from Fairfax County, Virginia, found himself arrested and thrown in jail.

1773 年,来自弗吉尼亚州费尔法克斯县的 27 岁浸信会教徒耶利米·摩尔 (Jeremiah Moore) 被捕并被投入监狱。

His crime, preaching without a license.

他的罪行是无证传教。

JEREMIAH MOORE

I have felt the effects of an ecclesiastical establishment and have been told by the judge in his seat, "You shall lie in jail until you rot," when my crime was no other than preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ.

我感受到了教会机构的影响,并被坐在座位上的法官告诉我,“你将躺在监狱里直到腐烂”,而我的罪行无非是传播耶稣基督的福音。

NARRATOR

Virginia's Baptists were evangelical Christians who came from Pennsylvania, migrating south to the Piedmont hills of central Virginia, looking to spread their Gospel message.

弗吉尼亚浸信会是来自宾夕法尼亚州的福音派基督徒,向南迁移到弗吉尼亚州中部的皮埃蒙特山区,希望传播他们的福音信息。

Rev.

牧师。

JAMES SLATTON, Baptist Minister: They were looking for converts and were bringing to people the idea that people can encounter God, and can encounter and experience God for themselves- in fact, not only can but must.

詹姆斯·斯拉顿(JAMES SLATTON),浸信会牧师:他们正在寻找皈依者,并向人们带来这样的想法:人们可以遇到上帝,并且可以亲自遇到和经历上帝 - 事实上,不仅可以而且必须。

NARRATOR

Baptists called it "rebirth" and it meant choosing Christ as your personal savior and being baptized as an adult.

浸信会称之为“重生”,这意味着选择基督作为你个人的救世主并作为成人接受洗礼。

LAUREN WINNER

You had to testify persuasively to that dramatic conversion, and then you would be taken to this river and immersed sometimes in quite cold water.

你必须有说服力地证明这种戏剧性的转变,然后你会被带到这条河里,有时会浸入非常寒冷的水中。

And there would be crowds.

而且会有人群。

Crowds weren't just politely observing this ritual, they were also sometimes being slain in the spirit and falling down, laughing, shrieking, praying.

人们不仅礼貌地遵守这个仪式,有时还被精神杀死,倒地、大笑、尖叫、祈祷。

NARRATOR

The experience began to attract hundreds of converts in rural Virginia.

这种经历开始吸引了弗吉尼亚乡村数百名皈依者。

STEPHEN MARINI, Historian of Religion, Wellesley College: They're singing and they're preaching the terrors of hell and the glories of the gospel of Christ.

斯蒂芬·马里尼,韦尔斯利学院宗教历史学家:他们在唱歌,他们在宣讲地狱的恐怖和基督福音的荣耀。

Everybody's praying for them and they're crying.

每个人都在为他们祈祷,他们都在哭泣。

If you are moved somehow, these people will embrace you, they will love you, they will support you.

如果你被感动了,这些人会拥抱你,他们会爱你,他们会支持你。

And the next day, you're telling your neighbor and you're inviting your neighbor to the next meeting.

第二天,你告诉你的邻居,并邀请你的邻居参加下一次会议。

And it goes like that.

事情就是这样。

NARRATOR

But to convert to a different religion was dangerous in colonial Virginia.

但在殖民地弗吉尼亚,皈依不同的宗教是危险的。

America's oldest and most prosperous colony was run by a powerful ruling class, and at its heart was its religion, the Anglican church.

美国最古老、最繁荣的殖民地由一个强大的统治阶级统治,其核心是其宗教——英国国教。

LAUREN WINNER

Everyone was an Anglican.

每个人都是英国圣公会教徒。

I mean, everyone was part of an Anglican parish.

我的意思是,每个人都是英国圣公会教区的一部分。

By definition, you were.

根据定义,你是。

You were a parishioner in an Anglican parish.

您是英国圣公会教区的教区居民。

NARRATOR

Citizens paid taxes to maintain their parish church and their minister.

公民纳税来维持他们的教区教堂和牧师。

LAUREN WINNER

And everyone in Virginia society understood that when you left your house and saw that society was functioning, you were encountering the work of the church, the established church.

弗吉尼亚社会的每个人都明白,当你离开家并看到社会正在运转时,你正在遭遇教会、既定教会的工作。

And you were also encountering the work of these elites who were overseeing that work.

你还会遇到这些监督这项工作的精英的工作。

NARRATOR

For more than a century, Virginia's elites had held power along with the Anglican Church.

一个多世纪以来,弗吉尼亚的精英阶层与英国圣公会一起掌权。

Now the Baptists were drawing converts away from Anglican parishes.

现在,浸信会正在从英国圣公会教区吸引皈依者。

LAUREN WINNER

To share the Gospel with you is to call you into a whole new way of being.

与你分享福音就是呼召你进入一种全新的存在方式。

Of course, that's not particularly appealing if you're a happy elite person who likes your way of being as it is just fine, thank you, and everything's hunky dory.

当然,如果你是一个快乐的精英人士,喜欢你的生活方式,因为它很好,那么这并不是特别有吸引力,谢谢,一切都很顺利。

It's quite appealing if you're a person who lives a life of toil and suffering.

如果你是一个过着辛劳和痛苦生活的人,这对你来说是相当有吸引力的。

And you would, of course, be compelled by a message that says, "Come into this new religious society, into this new community."

当然,你会被这样的信息所吸引:“进入这个新的宗教社会,进入这个新的社区。”

STEPHEN PROTHERO

There was a sense that religion was a big factor in what would hold a society together.

人们认为宗教是维系社会的一个重要因素。

And the Baptists, as a growing, gathering force, were seen as a significant threat.

浸信会作为一支不断壮大、聚集的力量,被视为一个重大威胁。

NARRATOR

The colony responded by restricting where non-Anglicans could preach.

殖民地的回应是限制非英国圣公会教徒可以传教的地方。

Any preacher without a license could be arrested.

任何没有执照的传教士都可能被逮捕。

Rev.

牧师。

JAMES SLATTON: This was very burdensome.

詹姆斯·斯拉顿:这是非常沉重的负担。

And it offended their sense of what was right because they believed that they should obey God and not man.

这冒犯了他们的正确观念,因为他们相信自己应该服从上帝而不是人。

They needed no man's permission in order to go somewhere and proclaim the gospel.

他们不需要任何人的许可就可以去某个地方传播福音。

NARRATOR

Jeremiah Moore was one of many Baptists who'd refused to get a license and had been thrown in jail.

耶利米·摩尔是众多拒绝获得执照并被投入监狱的浸信会教徒之一。

JEREMIAH MOORE

God himself is the only one to whom man is accountable for his religious sentiments simply, nor has he erected any tribunal on earth qualified to judge whether the man worships in an acceptable manner or not.

上帝本身是唯一一个人类对其宗教情感负责的人,他也没有在地球上设立任何法庭有资格判断人类是否以可接受的方式进行崇拜。

STEPHEN MARINI

When you start getting preachers like Jeremiah Moore and John Waller and Samuel Harris getting arrested and tried and thrown into prison, either they knew or they found out right away that the more trouble they got in with the government, the more appealing they were to the rank and file out there on the Piedmont.

当你开始看到像耶利米·摩尔、约翰·沃勒和塞缪尔·哈里斯这样的传教士被捕、受审并被投入监狱时,他们要么知道,要么立即发现,他们与政府的麻烦越多,他们对皮埃蒙特的高层和队伍就越有吸引力。

They said, "Well, at least these people are convinced.

他们说:“好吧,至少这些人相信了。

At least these people are committed to what they believe.

至少这些人致力于他们所相信的事情。

They're willing to put it on the line.

他们愿意冒险。

They're willing to risk."

他们愿意冒险。”

NARRATOR

Moore turned his incarceration to his advantage, preaching to crowds through the bars of his cell.

摩尔将监禁转化为自己的优势,通过牢房的铁栅栏向人群布道。

JEREMIAH MOORE

God is our refuge.

神是我们的避难所。

God is our strength.

神是我们的力量。

And the righteous God in his wrath-

公义的神在他的愤怒中——

STEPHEN MARINI

He's not just preaching to the converted, he's making news.

他不仅向皈依者传道,而且还制造新闻。

And so the government comes down harder.

因此政府的态度更加严厉。

All of a sudden, in almost every county, militiamen are arresting these folks, sending them to jail.

突然之间,几乎在每个县,民兵都开始逮捕这些人,将他们送进监狱。

And it spreads all the way across the Commonwealth.

它遍布整个英联邦。

Rev.

牧师。

JAMES SLATTON: But all this backfired because actually being persecuted and being willing to go to jail, this gave great credibility.

詹姆斯·斯拉顿:但这一切都适得其反,因为实际上受到迫害并愿意入狱,这提供了很大的可信度。

Rather than discredit them, it empowered them.

它不但没有抹黑他们,反而赋予了他们权力。

NARRATOR

In October 1776, Jeremiah Moore brought a petition to the Virginia Assembly demanding the right for Baptists to be free to worship without fear of persecution.

1776 年 10 月,杰里米亚·摩尔 (Jeremiah Moore) 向弗吉尼亚州议会提交请愿书,要求浸信会享有自由礼拜的权利,而不必担心受到迫害。

PETITION

Equal liberty, that invaluable blessing, which though it be the birthright of every good member of the state, is what your petitioners have been deprived of-

平等自由,这种无价的祝福,尽管它是国家每一个善良成员与生俱来的权利,但你们的请愿者却被剥夺了——

NARRATOR

Ten thousand names were on the petition.

请愿书上有一万个名字。

STEPHEN MARINI

They were looking for an advocate, an advocate to go into the courts and at least make their case.

他们正在寻找一位辩护人,一位能够进入法庭并至少为自己辩护的辩护人。

NARRATOR

They found their advocate in Thomas Jefferson.

他们在托马斯·杰斐逊身上找到了支持者。

As a member of the Virginia Assembly, he'd received the Baptists' petition.

作为弗吉尼亚议会的成员,他收到了浸信会的请愿书。

Weeks before, he'd drafted America's Declaration of Independence, and what he would now undertake on behalf of the Baptists would enshrine religious liberty as an American value.

几周前,他起草了美国的《独立宣言》,现在他将代表浸信会采取行动,将宗教自由奉为美国的价值观。

STEPHEN MARINI

This one is obvious to him.

这一点对他来说是显而易见的。

This one is very obvious to him.

这一点对他来说是非常明显的。

Suddenly, in his back yard, is an example of the worst kind of abuse that government can do.

突然间,在他的后院,出现了政府可以实施的最严重虐待行为的一个例子。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

We tend to think of Jefferson as a sort anti-religious person, but he was intensely religious, or as we would say now, he was spiritual but not religious.

我们倾向于认为杰斐逊是一个反宗教的人,但他非常虔诚,或者像我们现在所说的那样,他有精神但不虔诚。

But he thought that it was up to the individual.

但他认为这取决于个人。

And he didn't want the state to tell him what to think.

他不想让国家告诉他该怎么想。

We think of Jefferson as a rationalist, but in some ways, this is also an outgrowth of the Protestant Reformation, where the Protestants are saying every individual is free to read the Bible for himself and to figure out what it says.

我们认为杰斐逊是一位理性主义者,但在某些方面,这也是新教宗教改革的产物,新教徒声称每个人都可以自由地自己阅读《圣经》并弄清楚其中的内容。

Jefferson wanted us to do that, too.

杰斐逊也希望我们这样做。

He wanted us to be free to look at the evidence in the world of religion and decide what we thought it all meant.

他希望我们能够自由地审视宗教世界的证据,并决定我们认为这一切意味着什么。

NARRATOR

Jefferson's own religion had nothing in common with Baptist beliefs.

杰斐逊自己的宗教信仰与浸信会信仰没有任何共同之处。

He created his own version of the Gospels, keeping only what he believed relevant, cutting out the rest.

他创作了自己版本的福音书,只保留他认为相关的内容,删掉其余部分。

STEPHEN MARINI

And he takes away all the narrative, all the miracles, all of that stuff that just won't stand rational inspection.

他拿走了所有的叙述,所有的奇迹,所有那些经不起理性检验的东西。

"No, Jesus didn't raise Lazarus because there is no exemption to death." But Jesus says, "Blessed are the meek, blessed are the peacemakers." This is divine wisdom, and no institution can mediate it for you, including the church, let alone a government."

“不,耶稣没有使拉撒路复活,因为没有人可以免于死亡。”但耶稣说:“温柔的人有福了,使人和睦的人有福了。”这是神圣的智慧,任何机构都无法为你调解,包括教会,更不用说政府了。”

[www.pbs.org: Examine Jefferson's Bible]

[www.pbs.org:检查杰斐逊的圣经]

THOMAS JEFFERSON

I cannot give up my guidance to the magistrate because he knows no more of the way to heaven than I do and is less concerned to direct me right than I am to go right.

我不能放弃对地方法官的指导,因为他对通往天堂的道路并不比我了解更多,而且他更关心的是我要走正确的道路,而不是指导我正确的道路。

NARRATOR

Jefferson met with Virginia's leading Baptists, who told him of their struggle to practice their faith.

杰斐逊会见了弗吉尼亚州的浸信会领袖,他们向他讲述了他们为实践信仰所做的斗争。

STEPHEN MARINI

Jefferson says, "I couldn't disagree with you more about the substance of all of this.

杰斐逊说:“对于这一切的实质内容,我完全不同意你的看法。

But I will defend your right to say it." And that's exactly what he does.

但我会捍卫你说话的权利。”而这正是他所做的。

NARRATOR

Jefferson joined forces with the Baptists.

杰斐逊与浸信会联手。

DANIEL DREISBACH, Legal Scholar, American University: And their idea, which is radical at the time, is you disestablish the church.

丹尼尔·德雷巴赫(DANIEL DREISBACH),美国大学法律学者:他们的想法在当时是激进的,那就是解散教会。

You allow every religious sect and denomination to compete in the marketplace of ideas.

你允许每个宗教派别和教派在思想市场上竞争。

NARRATOR

Jefferson began to draft a bill that would end state-supported religion.

杰斐逊开始起草一项法案,结束国家支持的宗教。

BILL

No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place or ministry whatsoever.

任何人不得被迫经常参加或支持任何宗教礼拜、场所或事工。

DANIEL DREISBACH

Ministers are not going to go grow fat and lazy relying on a check from the state.

部长们不会因为国家的支票而变得又胖又懒。

Rather, they're going to become diligent.

相反,他们会变得勤奋。

NARRATOR

Jefferson went further.

杰斐逊走得更远。

Individuals must be free to worship as they choose.

个人必须自由选择崇拜。

BILL

All men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain their opinions in matters of religion.

所有人都可以自由地表达自己的宗教观点并通过论证来维持自己的观点。

DANIEL DREISBACH

It's through this competition of religious sects and denominations that the purest and the most efficacious faith and church will prevail in Virginia.

正是通过这种宗教派别和教派的竞争,最纯洁、最有效的信仰和教会才会在弗吉尼亚占上风。

NARRATOR

But when Jefferson submitted his bill to the Virginia Assembly, it was met with fierce opposition by many Virginians, including his fellow revolutionary, Patrick Henry.

但当杰斐逊向弗吉尼亚议会提交法案时,遭到了许多弗吉尼亚人的强烈反对,其中包括他的革命同胞帕特里克·亨利。

LAUREN WINNER

It tells us something about precisely how radical and revolutionary this idea is that even these revolutionary Virginians, suddenly, when actually faced with the possibility of religious freedom, there was a sort of collective sense of needing to pause and slow things down a bit.

它告诉我们,这个想法到底是多么激进和革命性,即使是这些革命性的弗吉尼亚人,突然之间,当真正面临宗教自由的可能性时,也有一种需要暂停和放慢脚步的集体意识。

NARRATOR

Henry feared that without state support, religion in Virginia would wither and die.

亨利担心,如果没有国家的支持,弗吉尼亚的宗教将会枯萎消亡。

At war's end, he drafted a bill that would fund not just the Anglican church but other approved denominations.

战争结束时,他起草了一项法案,不仅资助英国圣公会,还资助其他经批准的教派。

When the Baptists read Henry's proposed bill, they were outraged.

当浸信会读到亨利提出的法案时,他们感到愤怒。

STEPHEN MARINI

"This is still state control or state funding or state monitoring of religious institutions, and we want hands off."

“这仍然是国家对宗教机构的控制、资助或监督,我们希望放手。”

NARRATOR

Baptist support for Jefferson's vision of a religiously free Virginia grew more vocal.

浸信会越来越多地支持杰斐逊建立宗教自由的弗吉尼亚的愿景。

Their message struck a chord with ordinary Virginians who had fought for America's independence.

他们的信息引起了为美国独立而奋斗的普通弗吉尼亚人的共鸣。

In January 1786, Jefferson's bill was finally passed.

1786年1月,杰斐逊的法案终于获得通过。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

That connection was so palpable, between the tyranny of a government that didn't allow you to do your own thing and the tyranny of religious groups that wouldn't allow you to do your own thing, that we decided that, yes, it was worth the risk and we need to try.

这种联系是如此明显,在不允许你做自己的事情的政府暴政和不允许你做自己的事情的宗教团体的暴政之间,我们决定,是的,值得冒险,我们需要尝试。

NARRATOR

And when, a year later, the Constitution was being drafted in Philadelphia, Jefferson and the Baptists hoped that their hard-fought principle of separating church from state would be part of the country's founding document.

一年后,当费城起草宪法时,杰斐逊和浸信会希望他们艰苦奋斗的政教分离原则能够成为建国文件的一部分。

But when the Constitution was presented in September 1787, in not one of the seven articles was there any guarantee of religious liberty or other individual rights.

但当 1787 年 9 月宪法提出时,七个条款中没有任何一个对宗教自由或其他个人权利有任何保障。

FRANK LAMBERT, Historian, Purdue University: People were incensed.

弗兰克·兰伯特,普渡大学历史学家:人们被激怒了。

Here was a Constitution that created a very powerful central government.

这是一部创建了非常强大的中央政府的宪法。

Surely, individual rights ought to be protected, ought to be specified.

当然,个人权利应该受到保护,应该得到明确。

That was the concern.

这就是我们所担心的。

NARRATOR

The Constitution's framers wanted to create a more perfect union, and some feared that statements on religion would be divisive.

宪法的制定者希望建立一个更加完美的联邦,一些人担心有关宗教的声明会造成分裂。

But Jefferson believed their fears were unfounded, that defending an individual's liberties through a Bill of Rights would hold the country together.

但杰斐逊认为他们的担心是没有根据的,通过权利法案捍卫个人自由将使国家团结起来。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Jefferson said, "Let's do this experiment.

杰斐逊说:“我们来做这个实验吧。

Let's see what happens." But I think he had a real faith, we might say, in the power of freedom of conscience, and he believed that we could be held together through other sorts of things other than a shared religion.

让我们看看会发生什么。”但我认为,我们可以说,他对良心自由的力量有真正的信仰,他相信我们可以通过共同宗教以外的其他事物团结在一起。

And those would be shared values around things like democracy and things like freedom.

这些将是围绕民主和自由等事物的共同价值观。

NARRATOR

Virginia and four other states agreed with Jefferson and demanded a guarantee of individual rights.

弗吉尼亚州和其他四个州同意杰斐逊的观点,要求保障个人权利。

On September 25th, 1789, at Federal Hall in New York, America's First Congress proposed a Bill of Rights.

1789年9月25日,美国第一届国会在纽约联邦大厅提出了《权利法案》。

The 1st Amendment was ratified and became part of the Constitution in 1791.

1791 年第一修正案获得批准并成为宪法的一部分。

BILL OF RIGHTS

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

国会不得制定任何关于建立宗教或禁止宗教自由的法律。

NARRATOR

Years later, as president, Thomas Jefferson would define the 1st Amendment as having erected a wall of separation between church and state.

多年后,作为总统,托马斯·杰斐逊将第一修正案定义为在教会和国家之间竖立了一堵隔离墙。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The metaphor is so strong that people often think that, "Oh, the 1st Amendment means that there should be a wall of separation between church and state." It doesn't mean that at all.

这个隐喻如此强烈,以至于人们常常认为,“哦,第一修正案意味着教会和国家之间应该有一堵隔离墙。”根本不是这个意思。

You know, it says that we are not going to establish laws that are going to favor one religion over another, but it doesn't say exactly what kind of barrier there's going to be.

你知道,它说我们不会制定有利于一种宗教而非另一种宗教的法律,但它并没有确切说明将会存在什么样的障碍。

NARRATOR

Like the new nation, the 1st Amendment would be a work in progress.

与新国家一样,第一修正案也将是一项正在进行中的工作。

But with no national church, religion would not be guaranteed a place at the center of public life.

但如果没有全国性的教会,宗教就无法保证在公共生活的中心占据一席之地。

No other nation had ever taken such a step.

没有其他国家采取过这样的步骤。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

I think there's some fear- in the word "experiment" that you hear a lot in the early America, you know, there is fear there.

我认为存在一些恐惧——在美国早期你经常听到的“实验”这个词中,你知道,那里存在恐惧。

There is this idea that it could go wrong, that it can fail, the experiment can fail.

有这样一种想法,它可能会出错,可能会失败,实验可能会失败。

And there's a lot of talk, especially around the issue of religious freedom, that this is maybe too dangerous.

有很多讨论,尤其是围绕宗教自由问题,这可能太危险了。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY, Historian, Boston College: With the American religious marketplace opening up, everybody realizes that one choice could be "None of the above." You can choose not to go to church, not to read the Bible, not to believe in God.

辛西娅·林恩·莱尔利,波士顿学院历史学家:随着美国宗教市场的开放,每个人都意识到,一个选择可能是“以上都不是”。你可以选择不去教堂,不读圣经,不信上帝。

And that leads to opportunities but also to potential- potential damnation.

这带来了机遇,但也带来了潜在的——潜在的诅咒。

NARRATOR

And it was on America's frontier that both the risk and the potential of religious freedom would be played out.

正是在美国边境,宗教自由的风险和潜力都将发挥出来。

By the turn of the century, as many as 200 wagons were leaving the East each day in search of a new life.

到了世纪之交,每天有多达 200 辆马车离开东方去寻找新的生活。

CATHERINE BREKUS, Historian, University of Chicago: These are people who gather up all their belongings in carts and set off on these journeys that take many, many weeks.

凯瑟琳·布雷库斯(CATHERINE BREKUS),芝加哥大学历史学家:这些人将所有物品装进手推车,然后踏上需要很多很多周的旅程。

Michigan was the wild West.

密歇根州是狂野的西部。

Indiana seemed just impossibly far away.

印第安纳州似乎遥不可及。

But when they arrive, they have to begin carving out some kind of new world.

但当他们到达时,他们必须开始开拓某种新世界。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

The frontier was still a pretty dangerous place.

边境仍然是一个相当危险的地方。

It was not undertaken lightly.

这并非轻率之举。

This was not a lark, especially if you were going to bring your wife and kids.

这可不是闹着玩的,尤其是如果你要带上你的妻子和孩子的话。

Your sense of isolation would have been profound.

你的孤立感将会是深刻的。

NARRATOR

It was a dangerous and lonely life.

这是一种危险而孤独的生活。

People longed for spiritual direction, but there were few churches on the expanding frontier.

人们渴望心灵的指引,但在不断扩张的边疆上,教堂却寥寥无几。

James Finley had traveled with his family from North Carolina to the Ohio frontier in the late 1790s.

1790 年代末,詹姆斯·芬利 (James Finley) 与家人从北卡罗来纳州前往俄亥俄州边境。

In his later life, he would become a leading figure on America's religious landscape.

在他的晚年生活中,他将成为美国宗教界的领军人物。

But as a young man, Finley, like thousands of other Americans, struggled alone with his faith.

但作为一个年轻人,芬利和成千上万的其他美国人一样,独自为自己的信仰而奋斗。

JAMES FINLEY

What's the point in praying?

祷告有什么意义呢?

If I'm one of the elect, I'll will be saved in God's good time.

如果我是选民之一,我就会在上帝的好时机得救。

And if I'm one of the non-elect, praying will do me no good, as Christ did not die for them.

如果我是非选民之一,祈祷对我没有任何好处,因为基督没有为他们而死。

NARRATOR

He'd been brought up as a Presbyterian but now, with the opportunity to choose, came anxiety.

他是作为长老会教徒长大的,但现在,有了选择的机会,焦虑也随之而来。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

People are starting to ask, "What religion should I have," you know, or "What's thae experience that these other people have had that I haven't had?

人们开始问,“我应该信仰什么宗教”,或者“其他人有哪些我没有的经历?

Or have I had it?"

还是我曾经有过?”

JAMES FINLEY

Sometimes, my faith wavers, in spite of all my efforts to bolster it up, and my conscience stings me with remorse.

有时,尽管我竭尽全力增强信念,但我的信念却会动摇,我的良心会因悔恨而刺痛。

The thought that perhaps my soul will be lost produces the most intense emotion.

一想到也许我的灵魂会迷失,就会产生最强烈的情感。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The idea is shifting.

这个想法正在转变。

We're shifting away from the old Calvinist idea that God has made these choices- before you're even born, God has decided whether you're going to heaven or hell.

我们正在摆脱古老的加尔文主义观念,即上帝已经做出了这些选择——在你出生之前,上帝就已经决定了你是去天堂还是地狱。

Now it becomes up to us.

现在就由我们来决定了。

Totally different thing.

完全不同的事情。

Now we have the choice.

现在我们有选择了。

NARRATOR

In 1801, James Finley left Ohio heading for Kentucky.

1801 年,詹姆斯·芬利 (James Finley) 离开俄亥俄州前往肯塔基州。

Thousands had been drawn to a religious gathering in the town of Cane Ridge.

数千人被吸引到甘蔗岭镇举行的宗教聚会。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

He had heard about this meeting that was supposed to take place because it was publicized well in advance.

他听说了这次本来要举行的会议,因为它是提前公开的。

And he'd been hearing that at these revivals, that men would fall flat on the floor and start crying or weeping, that they would be struck under the Word and maybe fall to their knees.

他一直听说,在这些复兴中,人们会倒在地板上,开始哭泣或哭泣,他们会受到神的话语的打击,甚至跪下。

And he told his two companions, "We're going to go.

他告诉他的两个同伴:“我们要走了。

We're going to- let's go to this meeting and let's check this out" because it was actually a phenomenon.

我们要去——让我们去参加这次会议并检查一下”,因为这实际上是一种现象。

NARRATOR

Revivals or camp meetings were springing up across the frontier.

复兴或帐篷大会在边境各地如雨后春笋般涌现。

Hundreds, sometimes thousands of ordinary people would gather, drawn by the message of new, charismatic preachers seeking to save souls.

成百上千的普通人会聚集在一起,被新的、有魅力的传教士寻求拯救灵魂的信息所吸引。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

There's a perception that this new republic is just a baby in its infancy, and is in moral danger.

人们认为这个新共和国只是一个婴儿期的婴儿,正处于道德危险之中。

NARRATOR

Ministers warned that fewer people were going to church than had been before the Revolution.

部长们警告说,去教堂的人数比革命前要少。

America, they feared, faced a spiritual crisis.

他们担心美国面临精神危机。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

They have a sense of urgency in trying to bring people to Christ because they're not just saving them, they're saving the nation, as well.

他们有一种紧迫感,试图将人们带到基督面前,因为他们不仅要拯救他们,还要拯救整个国家。

Somehow, we've lost our moral underpinnings, that religion is no longer in a central place.

不知何故,我们失去了道德基础,宗教不再处于中心位置。

NARRATOR

As Finley drew closer to Cane Ridge, he grew nervous at what he was walking into.

当芬利越来越接近凯恩岭时,他对自己走进的地方感到紧张。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

He warns the two buddies on the way.

他在路上警告这两个伙伴。

He says, you know, "I'm not going to fall down.

他说,你知道,“我不会跌倒。

There's not going to be any falling."

不会有任何坠落。”

NARRATOR

When he reached Cane Ridge on August 8th, the revival had been under way for two days.

当他于 8 月 8 日到达甘蔗岭时,复兴活动已经进行了两天。

As many as 20,000 people had gathered there.

那里聚集了多达两万人。

CATHERINE BREKUS

Imagine if you walked into a clearing in the woods, and people all around you were crying.

想象一下,如果你走进树林里的一块空地,周围的人都在哭泣。

And people all around you were on their knees and they were begging for God's forgiveness.

你周围的人都跪下来乞求上帝的宽恕。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

These are people who have not seen this many of people together ever.

这些人从来没有见过这么多人在一起。

And then you've got them out in the wilderness with these torches and this kind of holy light they describe.

然后你用这些火把和他们所描述的这种圣光把他们带到荒野中。

CATHERINE BREKUS

The preachers are towering above you in preaching stands.

讲道台上的传道人高高在上。

They're preaching day and night, and everything is announced by trumpets blowing.

他们日夜传道,一切都通过号角的吹响来宣布。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Finley sees these people screaming, shrieking, shouting, some people singing.

芬利看到这些人尖叫、尖叫、喊叫,有些人在唱歌。

You would have seen other people screaming.

你会看到其他人尖叫。

You would have seen slaves commingling with their masters, listening to the Word.

你会看到奴隶与他们的主人在一起,聆听神的道。

JAMES FINLEY

There was a noise like that of Niagara.

传来了尼亚加拉瀑布般的喧闹声。

A vast sea of human beings seemed to be agitated as if by a storm, 20,000 persons tossed to and fro like the tumultuous waves of the sea in a storm, or swept down like the trees of the forest under the blast of the wild tornado.

茫茫人海仿佛被暴风雨搅动,两万人像暴风雨中的海浪翻滚,又像森林的树木在狂暴的龙卷风中被席卷而下。

CATHERINE BREKUS

People actually begin rolling on the ground.

人们实际上开始在地上打滚。

There are people fainting, weeping.

有人昏倒,有人哭泣。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

At one moment, a preacher's preaching and the preacher looks right at James Finley, and he finds his knees almost ready to give out.

就在这时,一名传教士正在讲道,传教士直视詹姆斯·芬利,他发现自己的膝盖几乎要瘫痪了。

JAMES FINLEY

Like long pent-up waters seeking for an avenue in the rock, the fountains of my soul are broken up.

就像长期被压抑的水在岩石中寻找出路一样,我灵魂的源泉被打破了。

I cry for mercy and salvation.

我呼求怜悯和拯救。

All my sins crowd upon me like so many demons of darkness.

我所有的罪孽像许多黑暗的恶魔一样聚集在我身上。

My disobedience to God, my backslidings rise before me, and it seems to me that hell is just at hand and that soon I must plunge into its dismal abodes.

我对上帝的悖逆、我的倒退在我面前浮现,在我看来,地狱就在眼前,很快我就必须陷入它阴暗的住所。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

He stops and says, "We're going to have to change our lives or we're going to hell." He weeps copiously, shouts out, and he's converted.

他停下来说:“我们必须改变我们的生活,否则我们就会下地狱。”他痛哭流涕,大喊大叫,然后他就悔改了。

JAMES FINLEY

The direct witness from heaven shines full upon my soul.

来自天上的直接见证完全照耀在我的灵魂上。

Then there flows such copious streams of love that I think I should die with excess of joy.

然后,涌流而来的爱之流如此丰富,我想我应该带着极度的喜悦死去。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Christian conversion offered a really, really powerful promise of fundamental change, that you could be a certain kind of person on Wednesday, and you could go to a revival on Thursday morning and by Thursday afternoon, you were a new creature.

基督徒的转变提供了一个真正非常强大的根本改变的承诺,你可以在周三成为某种人,你可以在周四早上参加复兴,到周四下午,你就成为一个新造的人。

NARRATOR

News of the Cane Ridge revival, and others like it, spread across America.

甘蔗岭复兴的消息以及其他类似消息传遍了美国。

Over the next two decades, there would be thousands more.

在接下来的二十年里,还会有数千人。

A wave of revivals swept through South Carolina, Tennessee and Georgia.

一股复兴浪潮席卷了南卡罗来纳州、田纳西州和佐治亚州。

The middle Atlantic - Delaware, Maryland, Virginia - hosted yearly camp meetings that were wild with enthusiasm.

大西洋中部地区——特拉华州、马里兰州、弗吉尼亚州——每年都会举办充满热情的帐篷大会。

And revivals burned across New York and New England.

复兴运动席卷了纽约和新英格兰。

[www.pbs.org: Revivals & American identity]

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CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY, Historian, Boston College: If you think you've found the key to eternal life, are you going to not tell your friends about it?

辛西娅·林恩·莱尔利(Cynthia LYNN LYERLY),波士顿学院历史学家:如果你认为你已经找到了永生的钥匙,你会不会告诉你的朋友吗?

They found the way, the truth and the light.

他们找到了道路、真理和光明。

And they're obligated, they're compelled, in fact, they would be damned if they do not go and spread this to other people.

他们有义务,他们被迫,事实上,如果他们不去把这个传播给其他人,他们就会被诅咒。

NARRATOR

America's thirst for a true religious experience spawned dozens of denominations.

美国对真正宗教体验的渴望催生了数十个教派。

Baptists and Methodists flourished.

浸信会和卫理公会蓬勃发展。

Individuals seeking a different message found a home with the Freewill Baptists, Antimission Baptists, Disciples of Christ, Universalists, and Joseph Smith's Latter Day Saints.

寻求不同信息的个人在自由意志浸信会、反宣教浸信会、基督门徒、普遍主义者和约瑟夫·史密斯的后期圣徒中找到了归宿。

Even the older faiths, the Presbyterian, Congregational and Anglican churches, became more evangelical in response to the competition they faced not just from new faiths but a new kind of preacher.

即使是更古老的信仰,如长老会、公理会和英国圣公会,也变得更加福音化,以应对他们面临的竞争,这些竞争不仅来自新信仰,还来自新型传教士。

Lorenzo Dow's outlandish preaching style made him a household name from New York to Alabama.

洛伦佐·道奇特的讲道风格使他成为从纽约到阿拉巴马州家喻户晓的人物。

Sojourner Truth shattered taboos by preaching to men and women, and like Jarena Lee, to black and whites.

索杰纳·特鲁斯向男人和女人传教,就像杰瑞娜·李一样,向黑人和白人传教,从而打破了禁忌。

Peter Cartwright preached across the frontier and conducted more than 12,000 baptisms.

彼得·卡特赖特 (Peter Cartwright) 在边境传教并主持了超过 12,000 次洗礼。

Richard Allen had used Methodism's message of freedom to secure his release from slavery and founded the African Methodist Episcopal Church in Pennsylvania.

理查德·艾伦利用卫理公会的自由信息来使自己摆脱奴隶制,并在宾夕法尼亚州建立了非洲卫理公会圣公会。

And Charles Finney brought the populist revivals to the middle class and converted thousands, becoming the most talked-about preacher in the nation.

查尔斯·芬尼将民粹主义复兴带入了中产阶级,改变了数千人的信仰,成为全国最受关注的传教士。

By 1811, more than a million Americans were attending at least one religious revival every year.

到 1811 年,超过一百万美国人每年至少参加一次宗教复兴活动。

And in this competitive religious atmosphere, Methodism was attracting more converts than any other denomination.

在这种竞争激烈的宗教氛围中,卫理公会比任何其他教派都吸引了更多的皈依者。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Because Methodism is a religion of the heart, it's about feelings and about emotions, they're appealing to people- you don't have to have education.

因为卫理公会是一种内心的宗教,它关乎感情和情感,它们对人们有吸引力——你不需要受过教育。

You don't have to have money.

你不必有钱。

You just have to have the right heart.

你只需要有一颗正确的心。

They urge people in these emotional tones to turn from God's wrath and potential judgment and hellfire to God's love and happiness.

他们以这些情绪化的语气敦促人们从上帝的愤怒、潜在的审判和地狱之火转向上帝的爱和幸福。

It's a great- I mean, it's- who would not want that?

这太棒了——我的意思是,这——谁不想要这样呢?

JAMES FINLEY

I felt as though someone had spoken to me, "Go preach my Gospel." I instantly replied, "Yes, Lord, if thou wilt go with m e."

我感觉好像有人对我说:“去传讲我的福音吧。”我立刻回答说:“是的,主啊,如果你愿意跟我一起去的话。”

NARRATOR

The anxiety that had afflicted James Finley was washed away when he became a Methodist preacher in the spring of 1809.

1809 年春天,当詹姆斯·芬利成为卫理公会传教士时,困扰他的焦虑一扫而光。

He would dedicate his life to spreading the gospel of Christ and would become a leading social reformer, championing temperance, the rights of Native Americans and the conditions for prisoners in his home state of Ohio.

他将一生奉献给传播基督的福音,并成为一位领先的社会改革家,倡导节制、美洲原住民的权利以及家乡俄亥俄州囚犯的条件。

NARRATOR

Finley's rise to national prominence began on the frontier as a traveling preacher.

芬利在全国的声名鹊起是从边疆地区作为一名旅行传教士开始的。

CATHERINE BREKUS, Historian, University of Chicago: One of the reasons that Methodism becomes so popular and powerful is that they send out itinerants who organize churches and who try to impose some kind of religious order on that unruly landscape.

凯瑟琳·布雷库斯(CATHERINE BREKUS),芝加哥大学历史学家:卫理公会如此受欢迎和强大的原因之一是,他们派出巡游者来组织教堂,并试图在这片不规则的土地上强加某种宗教秩序。

NARRATOR

Dozens of ministers were each given a route of several hundred miles along which they preached.

数十名牧师每人都被指定了一条数百英里的路线,他们可以沿着这条路线传教。

They were known as circuit riders.

他们被称为巡回车手。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

You can reach many more souls on a circuit than you can reach as a pastor in a local area.

你在一个巡回赛中所能接触到的灵魂,比你作为一名牧师在当地所能接触到的灵魂还要多。

So they'd go around and they'd preach on various stops, usually in peoples' homes along the way, along the circuit.

所以他们会四处走动,在各个站点布道,通常是在沿途、沿途人们的家中。

NARRATOR

It was a system that was ideally suited to frontier life.

这是一个非常适合边疆生活的系统。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

We liked these traveling preachers because, "He was sort of like me." You know, he was just, you know, a farmer who got a horse and a Bible and went out did something.

我们喜欢这些旅行传教士,因为“他有点像我。”你知道,他只是一个农民,他有一匹马和一本圣经,然后出去做了一些事情。

And when he speaks, like, "It sounds like my neighbor."

当他说话时,就像,“听起来像我的邻居。”

JAMES FINLEY

I announced my text as follows, "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3, 19.

我宣布我的经文如下:“所以你们当悔改归正,使你们的罪孽得以涂抹”(使徒行传 3 章 19 节)。

My soul fired with the theme, and the Holy Spirit shed abroad its hallowed influence, and the divine power pervaded every heart.

我的灵魂被这个主题点燃,圣灵散发出神圣的影响力,神圣的力量弥漫在每一颗心。

NARRATOR

Methodism's circuit riders became a focal point of peoples' lives.

卫理公会的巡回骑手成为人们生活的焦点。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

These circuit riders, they don't just bring the Methodist message.

这些巡回赛骑手不仅带来了卫理公会的信息。

They bring books.

他们带来了书。

They bring learning.

他们带来学习。

They're going to have a Sunday school, and the Sunday School's going to have to teach the kids how to read and write.

他们将有一所主日学校,主日学校必须教孩子们如何读书和写作。

So they bring- they bring infrastructure, if you will.

所以他们带来了基础设施,如果你愿意的话。

From class meetings to prayer meetings to missionary society meetings, they provide kind of the moral stability that the frontier needed.

从班级会议到祈祷会再到传教士协会会议,它们提供了边疆所需的道德稳定。

NARRATOR

At America's independence, there were just 15,000 Methodists.

美国独立时,卫理公会教徒仅有 15,000 人。

But by 1850, there were more than a million.

但到 1850 年,人数已超过 100 万。

By then more Americans were going to church than ever before and two out of three church goers were evangelical Protestants.

到那时,去教堂的美国人比以往任何时候都多,三分之二的去教堂的人是福音派新教徒。

Religion had regained its place at the heart of American life.

宗教重新在美国人生活的核心中占据一席之地。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

And along with that comes this push to change the society, to Christianize the society, to evangelize the society.

随之而来的是改变社会、使社会基督教化、向社会传播福音的推动力。

And that doesn't just mean converting people, it means making America look more like the kingdom of God, you know, making America look like the sort of place that Jesus would want it to be.

这不仅意味着改变人们的信仰,还意味着让美国看起来更像神的国度,你知道,让美国看起来像耶稣希望的那样。

NARRATOR

Evangelical Christianity was no longer just about individuals being reborn or about going to church on Sunday.

福音派基督教不再仅仅关乎个人的重生或周日去教堂。

Evangelical Christianity was about building a new America.

福音派基督教旨在建设一个新美国。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

As these people are converted, they're not just going back to their churches to their families, and saying, "Gee," you know, "I have a new heart and now I'm going to heaven." But they're saying, you know, "There's something weird about the way we're running our prisons.

当这些人转变时,他们不只是回到他们的教堂与家人团聚,然后说,“哎呀,”你知道,“我有一颗新心,现在我要去天堂了。”但他们说,你知道,“我们管理监狱的方式有些奇怪。

There's something weird about the way we're doing our educational system.

我们的教育系统的运作方式有些奇怪。

There's something wrong about slavery.

奴隶制有问题。

There's something wrong about the fact that women can't vote." And they start to move out into the society.

女性不能投票这一事实是有问题的。”他们开始走向社会。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

You walk into any town in America in 1830, and you're going to see an orphanage that's probably run by evangelicals.

1830 年,你走进美国的任何一个城镇,你都会看到一座可能由福音派人士经营的孤儿院。

You'll see evangelicals at the prison, making sure the prisoners are clean, well fed and cared for.

你会在监狱里看到福音派人士,确保囚犯干净、吃得好、受到照顾。

You'll see evangelicals taking care of people in the poorhouse, other evangelicals trying to get rid of taverns and drink in the town.

你会看到福音派人士照顾济贫院的人们,其他福音派人士则试图摆脱镇上的酒馆和饮酒。

NARRATOR

Schools, hospitals, relief for the poor, women's rights, abolition- the associations that evangelical Protestants had built to tackle society's ills had become pillars of American life.

学校、医院、救济穷人、妇女权利、废奴——福音派新教徒为解决社会弊病而建立的协会已经成为美国生活的支柱。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The United States is starting to look like something.

美国开始看起来有些像了。

It's not just the New Adam, it's not just this sort of thing out ahead of us.

这不仅仅是新亚当,也不仅仅是我们面前的这类事情。

We were going to make it.

我们会成功的。

And what that promised land is, is this more evangelical Protestant country that has the possibility for this individual heart-felt piety, but also has the possibility for creating a kind of heaven on earth.

而那个应许之地,就是这个更加福音派的新教国家,有可能实现个人发自内心的虔诚,也有可能创造出一种人间天堂。

NARRATOR

Protestant America's success and its values of freedom and opportunity had begun to attract huge numbers of new European immigrants.

新教美国的成功及其自由和机会的价值观已经开始吸引大量新的欧洲移民。

By the 1830s, hundreds of thousands were arriving on America's Eastern seaboard.

到 1830 年代,已有数十万人抵达美国东海岸。

Many were Irish Catholics fleeing poverty and religious oppression.

许多人是逃离贫困和宗教压迫的爱尔兰天主教徒。

But Catholicism was the religion that Protestants had been resisting ever since they broke away from it three centuries before, and the mass immigration of Catholics would threaten Protestant America's vision of their new republic.

但天主教是新教徒自从三个世纪前脱离天主教以来就一直抵制的宗教,天主教徒的大规模移民将威胁新教徒美国对新共和国的愿景。

JOHN McGREEVY, Historian, University of Notre Dame: Many Americans associated Protestantism not just with liberty but with progress, as part of the progress of the modern world.

约翰·麦克格里维,圣母大学历史学家:许多美国人将新教不仅与自由联系在一起,而且与进步联系在一起,作为现代世界进步的一部分。

And the fact that Catholicism was growing, that it was growing in the United States, which in particular was founded with a strong Protestant ethos, seemed particularly threatening.

天主教正在增长,尤其是在美国,尤其是在具有强烈新教精神的美国,它正在增长,这一事实似乎特别具有威胁性。

STEPHEN MARINI

They are perceived as alien, as not us.

他们被视为外星人,而不是我们。

This is the whore of Babylon.

这是巴比伦的妓女。

This is Antichrist.

这是敌基督。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

They're not promoting Protestant America.

他们并不是在宣传新教美国。

They're not accepting Jesus into their heart.

他们没有接受耶稣进入他们的内心。

They're not going to these revivals and becoming born-again Christians.

他们不会参加这些复兴并成为重生的基督徒。

JOHN McGREEVY: And precisely because the United States was so open, was so welcoming, it was in danger.

约翰·麦克格里维:正是因为美国如此开放、如此热情,它才处于危险之中。

STEPHEN MARINI

These are poor, devastated Irish folk.

这些都是贫穷、饱受摧残的爱尔兰人。

It doesn't matter.

没关系。

"Satan has been set loose in our Garden of Eden, and we will not have it!"

“撒旦已经在我们的伊甸园里被释放了,我们不会拥有它!”

NARRATOR

By the 1840s, nearly half of all immigrants to America were from Ireland and a quarter of all New Yorkers were Irish.

到 1840 年代,近一半的美国移民来自爱尔兰,四分之一的纽约人是爱尔兰人。

In Philadelphia, Irish Catholics doubled in population in 30 years.

在费城,爱尔兰天主教徒的人口在 30 年内翻了一番。

Boston's Catholics tripled in number in just 10 years.

波士顿的天主教徒人数在短短十年内增加了两倍。

And with Catholic numbers growing, so came increasing Protestant hostility.

随着天主教徒数量的增长,新教徒的敌意也随之增加。

There had been riots in Philadelphia at St Mary's Church.

费城圣玛丽教堂发生骚乱。

In 1835, several thousand Protestants rampaged through the Catholic Five Points Area of New York.

1835 年,数千名新教徒在纽约天主教五点区横行。

And in Boston, factory workers surrounded the city's Ursuline convent before burning it to the ground.

在波士顿,工厂工人包围了该市的乌尔苏拉修道院,然后将其烧毁。

Amidst the violence and suspicion, one man led the struggle to make Protestant America accept that their new Eden had to include Catholics.

在暴力和猜疑中,一名男子领导了一场斗争,让新教美国接受他们的新伊甸园必须包括天主教徒。

John Hughes was the country's most outspoken Catholic bishop.

约翰·休斯是该国最直言不讳的天主教主教。

His challenge to America would redefine the country's commitment to the principle of religious freedom.

他对美国的挑战将重新定义该国对宗教自由原则的承诺。

Bishop JOHN HUGHES: I am the pastor of a Christian flock.

约翰·休斯主教:我是基督教群的牧师。

I am a citizen of a country whose proudest boast is that it has made the civil and religious rights of all its citizens equal.

我是一个国家的公民,这个国家最值得骄傲的就是它让所有公民享有平等的公民权利和宗教权利。

NARRATOR

The desire for religious freedom ran deep in John Hughes.

约翰·休斯内心深处对宗教自由的渴望。

As a boy growing up in Ireland, he'd witnessed the oppression of Catholics by the country's ruling Protestant minority.

作为一个在爱尔兰长大的男孩,他亲眼目睹了该国占统治地位的新教少数群体对天主教徒的压迫。

Father RICHARD SHAW, Roman Catholic Priest: The turning point in the Hughes family was when John Hughes's sister died, and it was against the laws in Ireland, his own country, for a priest to enter a cemetery.

理查德·肖神父,罗马天主教牧师:休斯家族的转折点是约翰·休斯的妹妹去世时,在他自己的国家爱尔兰,牧师进入墓地是违法的。

The priest would have to bless dirt outside, the family would bring it in, sprinkle it on the coffin.

牧师必须在外面祝福泥土,家人会把它带进来,洒在棺材上。

NARRATOR

Shortly after his sister's death, Hughes emigrated to America with his family.

姐姐去世后不久,休斯与家人移民到美国。

He worked first as a ditch digger before training for the priesthood.

在接受神职培训之前,他首先是一名挖沟工。

Father RICHARD SHAW: So you watch this raw-boned, scantily educated youth educate himself.

理查德·肖神父:所以你会看到这个骨瘦如柴、没有受过多少教育的年轻人自我教育。

Once he saw what was written in the Constitution and what was declared to be freedoms - and then saw them not lived out - he makes that his clarion call, this country will live up to what it claims to be.

一旦他看到了宪法中所写的内容以及所宣布的自由 - 然后看到它们没有实现 - 他就发出了他的号角,这个国家将实现它所声称的那样。

NARRATOR

In his Philadelphia parish, he was famous for his blistering attacks on religious prejudice.

在他所在的费城教区,他因猛烈攻击宗教偏见而闻名。

He'd sign his letters with a cross.

他会在信上画十字。

"Dagger John" people called him.

人们称他为“匕首约翰”。

MARK S.

马克·S。

MASSA, S.J., Theologian, Boston College: He put a cross in front of his name, which does look like a dagger.

MASSA, S.J.,波士顿学院神学家:他在自己的名字前面画了一个十字架,看起来确实像一把匕首。

But I think his enemies called him "Dagger John" because he could be nasty.

但我认为他的敌人称他为“匕首约翰”,因为他可能很令人讨厌。

He was a street fighter.

他是一名街头霸王。

NARRATOR

In 1837, Hughes's reputation as a fighter prompted a summons to the Catholic diocese of New York.

1837 年,休斯作为一名斗士的名声促使他受到纽约天主教教区的传唤。

Most of the city's 12,000 Catholic children were on the streets and not in school.

该市 12,000 名天主教儿童中的大多数都流落街头,没有上学。

Their parents had taken them out of the public schools, which they saw as bigoted against Catholics.

他们的父母将他们带出了公立学校,他们认为公立学校对天主教徒抱有偏见。

STEPHEN MARINI

New York is not what we think New York is today.

纽约并不是我们今天所想象的纽约。

New York was the center of evangelical public moral reform activity in the whole nation.

纽约是全国福音派公共道德改革活动的中心。

JOHN McGREEVY: Many teachers in the public schools were ministers or former ministers.

约翰·麦克格里维:公立学校的许多教师都是部长或前部长。

The fact that they were singing Protestant hymns, the fact that the textbooks in the public schools were virulently- they were quite virulently anti-Catholic.

事实上,他们唱的是新教赞美诗,事实上,公立学校的教科书是恶毒的——他们非常恶毒地反天主教。

NARRATOR

Hughes agreed with the parents and vowed to take up their fight.

休斯同意父母的观点,并发誓要继续战斗。

JOHN McGREEVY: Hughes genuinely felt that the public schools were engines of converting Catholics into Protestants.

约翰·麦克格里维:休斯真诚地认为公立学校是将天主教徒转变为新教徒的引擎。

Their fear was they're going to lose a whole generation of young Catholics.

他们担心他们会失去整整一代年轻的天主教徒。

So they thought they had to somehow stop this.

所以他们认为必须以某种方式阻止这一切。

NARRATOR

New York City's schools were run by the Public School Society, which had been founded in 1805 by Quakers.

纽约市的学校由贵格会于 1805 年创立的公立学校协会管理。

They, like other evangelicals, believed creating good Americans began in the classroom.

和其他福音派人士一样,他们相信培养优秀的美国人始于课堂。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

One of the main purposes of the public schools was to create moral citizens.

公立学校的主要目的之一是培养有道德的公民。

And the only way to create a moral citizen was to give them religion, and the only legitimate religion was Christianity.

创造一个有道德的公民的唯一方法就是赋予他们宗教信仰,而唯一合法的宗教就是基督教。

And the only way to inculcate Christianity was the Bible.

灌输基督教的唯一途径就是圣经。

NARRATOR

Hughes agreed with the idea of moral teaching in schools through religious instruction.

休斯同意通过宗教教育在学校进行道德教育的想法。

But the public schools were teaching Christianity using a Protestant Bible.

但公立学校使用新教圣经教授基督教。

Catholics had their own Bible.

天主教徒有自己的圣经。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The public school people, who were mostly Protestants, typically said, "Just give them the Bible.

公立学校的人大多是新教徒,他们通常会说:“给他们圣经就行了。

Let them decide for themselves." And they didn't see that that was a Protestant way of doing things.

让他们自己决定吧。”他们没有看到这是新教的做事方式。

The Protestant Bible, the King James, does not have footnotes.

新教圣经《钦定本》没有脚注。

But the Catholic Bible does because Catholics say, "You can't read the Bible by yourself.

但天主教圣经确实如此,因为天主教徒说:“你不能自己读圣经。

There's a whole tradition, "right?

有一个完整的传统,“对吧?

"We have all these people, Augustine and Aquinas.

“我们有所有这些人,奥古斯丁和阿奎那。

Who are you, some 12-year-old or some 35-year-old public school teacher to think you know what the Bible says?

你是谁,某个 12 岁或某个 35 岁的公立学校老师,以为你知道圣经怎么说?

Listen to what the tradition says."

听听传统怎么说。”

Bishop JOHN HUGHES: I was bound to see that the religious rights of my flock should not be filched away from them under the pretext of education.

约翰·休斯主教:我必须看到,我的信徒的宗教权利不应该以教育为借口被剥夺。

NARRATOR

Hughes's support of the Catholic parents removing their children from school baffled the Protestant establishment.

休斯支持天主教家长让孩子退学,这让新教机构感到困惑。

MARK S. MASSA

To the Protestants who founded the New York Public School Society, this sounded anti-intellectual.

对于创建纽约公立学校协会的新教徒来说,这听起来是反智的。

It sounded like sort of the argument of an illiterate throng who wanted to remain illiterate.

这听起来像是一群不识字却想继续不识字的人的争论。

And it sounded like people who were rejecting a very good offer of learning how to become good American citizens, with the presumption that to be a good citizen of the United States was to be a good Protestant evangelical.

这听起来就像是那些拒绝学习如何成为好美国公民的好机会的人,他们认为要成为一个好美国公民就必须成为一个好的新教福音派信徒。

NARRATOR

But Hughes knew Catholics, too, could be good Americans.

但休斯知道天主教徒也可以成为优秀的美国人。

And the Constitution, he believed, gave them the right to be both.

他相信,宪法赋予了他们两者兼而有之的权利。

Bishop JOHN HUGHES: The great fathers of our liberties insisted that consciences and religion should ever be free and regarded as above the law.

约翰·休斯主教:我们伟大的自由之父们坚持认为,良心和宗教应该是自由的,并被视为凌驾于法律之上。

NARRATOR

Hughes petitioned New York's City Council, which funded the public schools, demanding that if the public schools were teaching Protestantism, then Catholics should be given money to set up their own schools.

休斯向为公立学校提供资金的纽约市议会请愿,要求如果公立学校教授新教,那么天主教徒应该获得资金来建立自己的学校。

He demanded a full hearing, where he would make the argument for New York's Catholics in person.

他要求举行完整的听证会,亲自为纽约天主教徒辩护。

STEPHEN MARINI

This was a full-bore public debate, with mass coverage in the press, packed house, people outside.

这是一场全面的公开辩论,媒体进行了大规模报道,场内挤满了人,场外也挤满了人。

So there he is appearing probably for the first time in a Protestant public venue.

因此,他可能是第一次出现在新教公共场所。

Bishop JOHN HUGHES: We interfere with no other denomination of citizens.

约翰·休斯主教:我们不干涉其他教派的公民。

We wish them all to enjoy the same privileges that we claim for ourselves.

我们希望他们都享有我们为自己争取的同样的特权。

Suppose your children were in the case with these poor children for whom I plead.

假设你的孩子和我所恳求的这些可怜的孩子一样。

Suppose then what your feelings would be if the blessings of education were provided bountifully by the state and you were unable to participate unless you were willing to submit that your consciences should be trenched upon.

那么假设一下,如果国家慷慨地提供教育,而你无法参与,除非你愿意接受你的良心应该受到拷打,你的感受会是什么。

STEPHEN MARINI

He is relishing, he is positively enjoying the fact that he is making an American constitutional religious liberty case.

他很享受,他非常享受他正在为美国宪法宗教自由辩护这一事实。

The same religious liberty that enabled them to create an evangelical majority, he is now going to use to challenge the legitimacy of the education they are delivering and to challenge their political control.

同样的宗教自由使他们能够建立福音派多数,他现在将利用这一点来挑战他们所提供的教育的合法性,并挑战他们的政治控制。

NARRATOR

The Public School Society responded with their own witnesses.

公立学校协会用他们自己的证人做出了回应。

From Old Brick Church, the Presbyterian, Gardner Spring.

来自老砖教堂、长老会、加德纳泉。

GARDNER SPRING

The Catholic Church is almost uniformly the enemy of liberty.

天主教会几乎一致是自由的敌人。

I resent that Bishop Hughes should come to a community of Protestant citizens ask for the bounty of the state to support such a system as his.

我对休斯主教来到一个新教公民社区寻求国家的资助来支持他这样的制度感到不满。

NARRATOR

Ignoring Hughes's constitutional arguments, others attacked Hughes's loyalty.

其他人无视休斯的宪法论点,攻击休斯的忠诚。

Was he with America or with the Vatican?

他是在美国还是在梵蒂冈?

WITNESS

In all candor, I ask whether if it does belong to a foreign potentate to say whether the Bible shall not be read in our common schools?

我坦率地问,是否确实有外国统治者有权规定我们的普通学校不得阅读《圣经》?

NARRATOR

Hughes stuck to his argument, that in America, no one religion could be favored over another.

休斯坚持他的论点,即在美国,没有一种宗教比另一种宗教更受青睐。

Bishop JOHN HUGHES: Is not this the principle of the American government?

约翰休斯主教:这不是美国政府的原则吗?

Is it not the pride and boast and glory of the American people?

这难道不是美国人民的骄傲、自夸和光荣吗?

And if it be all this, why is it that Americans are opposed to it?

如果都是这样,为什么美国人会反对呢?

NARRATOR

The debate lasted two days.

辩论持续了两天。

In the end, John Hughes lost the vote 15 to 1.

最终约翰·休斯以15比1落败。

There would be no state money for Catholic schools.

国家不会为天主教学校提供资金。

The Protestant establishment felt it would be the end of the matter.

新教势力认为事情到此结束。

MARK S. MASSA

I think they viewed John Hughes as a rustic.

我认为他们将约翰·休斯视为乡下人。

They viewed John Hughes as kind of an interesting throwback, charming - John Hughes could be incredibly charming - but not a serious leader, and certainly not a serious leader for religious people in the United States.

他们认为约翰·休斯是一个有趣的复古人物​​,很有魅力——约翰·休斯可能非常迷人——但不是一个严肃的领袖,当然也不是美国宗教人士的严肃领袖。

I think, to some extent, they underestimated John Hughes.

我认为,在某种程度上,他们低估了约翰·休斯。

NARRATOR

Hughes responded to the council decision by raising funds to build dozens of parochial schools.

休斯响应议会的决定,筹集资金建造了数十所教会学校。

And he was determined that if the Constitution was to be upheld, then the city must be forced to give up funding Protestant schools.

他下定决心,如果要维护宪法,那么必须迫使该市放弃资助新教学校。

MARK S. MASSA

I think Bishop Hughes realizes then that there's more than one way to get to Rome - excuse the metaphor - that if you can't win it through debate, you can win it through the ballot.

我认为休斯主教当时意识到,到达罗马的方法不止一种——请原谅这个比喻——如果你不能通过辩论赢得胜利,你可以通过投票赢得胜利。

NARRATOR

1841 was an election year in the state of New York.

1841 年是纽约州的选举年。

Five days before the election, at a Catholic rally at Carroll Hall, Hughes presented a list of the candidates he favored.

选举前五天,在卡罗尔大厅举行的天主教集会上,休斯提出了他支持的候选人名单。

He urged his parishioners to vote for them.

他敦促教区居民投票支持他们。

Bishop JOHN HUGHES: Will you adhere to the nominations made?

约翰·休斯主教:您会遵守提名吗?

Will you be united?

你们会团结起来吗?

Will you let all men know that you are worthy sons of the nation to which you belong?

你会让所有人都知道你是你所属国家的配得之子吗?

JOHN McGREEVY: That was the fear of many Protestants.

约翰·麦克格里维:这是许多新教徒的恐惧。

"We're going to have Bishops interfering in our politics.

“我们将让主教干涉我们的政治。

Here is this unelected bishop, appointed by the Pope in Rome, telling thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of our fellow citizens how they should vote.

这位未经选举产生的主教由罗马教皇任命,他告诉成千上万甚至数十万我们的同胞应该如何投票。

Catholics are more or less like sheep.

天主教徒或多或少就像绵羊。

They're going to do exactly what they're told.

他们将完全按照他们的指示去做。

And if we have people like Hughes telling Catholics what to do, we're in trouble."

如果我们让像休斯这样的人告诉天主教徒该做什么,我们就有麻烦了。”

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Catholicism threatens the whole American project.

天主教威胁着整个美国的计划。

That's the point.

这就是重点。

It threatens the whole American project because it threatens to bring us back to pre-revolutionary America because it's going to enslave us in the tyranny of a king- in this case, a king who's called the pope.

它威胁到整个美国的计划,因为它有可能把我们带回到革命前的美国,因为它将把我们奴役在国王的暴政之下——在这种情况下,是一个被称为教皇的国王。

NARRATOR

The Constitution gave Hughes the right to advise his parishioners how to vote, but the Protestant establishment was outraged at what they saw as priestly meddling in politics.

宪法赋予休斯建议教区居民如何投票的权利,但新教机构对他们认为神职人员干预政治感到愤怒。

Leading the attack, James Gordon Bennett, editor of The New York Herald.

领导这场攻击的是《纽约先驱报》的编辑詹姆斯·戈登·贝内特。

JAMES GORDON BENNETT

A bold, daring, reckless, unexpected attempt to control politics by the force of religious sentiment, thereby sullying his garment with political dirt.

大胆、大胆、鲁莽、出人意料地试图通过宗教情感的力量来控制政治,从而沾染上政治污垢。

NARRATOR

In defending the rights of New York's Catholics, John Hughes believed he was fulfilling his priestly duties.

在捍卫纽约天主教徒的权利时,约翰·休斯相信他正在履行他的牧师职责。

Bishop JOHN HUGHES: So vital and important do I consider the question that I conceive that I cannot be anywhere more in keeping with my character as a bishop than to stand before you pleading the cause of the poor and oppressed.

约翰·休斯主教:我认为这个问题是如此重要和重要,以至于我认为,站在你们面前为穷人和受压迫者的事业辩护是最符合我主教性格的。

So near is the question to my heart that I can bear insult from morning until night.

这个问题离我的心如此之近,以至于我可以从早到晚忍受侮辱。

NARRATOR

Hughes's politicking paid off.

休斯的政治活动得到了回报。

All but three of the candidates he had supported were elected.

他支持的候选人除三名外均当选。

In April 1842, the state passed the Maclay [sp?] bill.

1842 年 4 月,该州通过了 Maclay [sp?] 法案。

By a majority of just one, New York's Senate voted to end religious instruction in New York's public schools.

纽约参议院以一票多数投票决定结束纽约公立学校的宗教教育。

It was a decision that New York's Protestant majority found hard to stomach.

这个决定让纽约的新教徒多数人难以接受。

Four days later, on April 12th, riots broke out.

四天后,即4月12日,骚乱爆发。

Bricks were thrown through the windows of Hughes's house and doors were kicked in before the police arrived.

在警察到达之前,有人向休斯家的窗户扔砖头,门也被踢开。

CATHERINE BREKUS, Historian, University of Chicago: Freedom can be quite dangerous, and I think Americans are both wedded to freedom and nervous about where it might lead.

凯瑟琳·布雷克斯,芝加哥大学历史学家:自由可能非常危险,我认为美国人既热爱自由,又对自由可能带来的后果感到紧张。

NARRATOR

By demanding religious liberty for Catholic immigrants, John Hughes had expanded the idea of what it meant to be an American.

通过要求天主教移民享有宗教自由,约翰·休斯扩展了作为美国人的意义的观念。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

And so if you ask, why do we persecute Catholics and then why do we stop, it's because we have this idea of freedom in our heads from the beginning, and we have this story about a people who are enslaved, which is wrong, who move through the power of God and their own efforts to freedom, which is right.

因此,如果你问,为什么我们迫害天主教徒,然后为什么我们停止迫害,那是因为我们从一开始就有这种自由的想法,我们有一个关于被奴役的人民的故事,这是错误的,他们通过上帝的力量和自己的努力走向自由,这是正确的。

That story is always working on us.

这个故事一直在我们身上发生。

And even when we're doing things that are persecutory and that are immoral and that are enslaving other people, that story is operating on us as we're doing it.

即使当我们在做迫害性的、不道德的、奴役他人的事情时,这个故事也会在我们做这些事情的时候作用在我们身上。

And I think, gradually, we hear the story and we hear the voice that says "Stop."

我认为,渐渐地,我们听到了这个故事,我们听到了说“停止”的声音。

NARRATOR

As hard as America found it to grant freedom to those it distrusted, religious liberty had become the founding principle that would help shape America's identity.

尽管美国很难给予那些不信任的人自由,但宗教自由已成为有助于塑造美国身份的基本原则。

Episode 3: A Nation Reborn [The words spoken by the actors in this film are from transcripts, sermons and personal journals of the characters they portray.]

第 3 集:国家重生 [本片中演员所说的话来自他们所扮演的角色的文字记录、布道和个人日记。]

NARRATOR

In the 19th century, many Americans believed their country had been chosen by God.

19世纪,许多美国人相信他们的国家是上帝选择的。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY, Historian, Boston College: You'd be hard pressed to find a white American who do not believe that the Lord had a special destiny for America and that the Lord wanted America to be an example to the world.

辛西娅·林恩·莱尔利(Cynthia LYNN LYERLY),波士顿学院历史学家:很难找到一个美国白人不相信上帝对美国有着特殊的命运,并且上帝希望美国成为世界的榜样。

NARRATOR

But tensions over what God wanted for America were now ripping the country apart.

但关于上帝对美国的期望的紧张局势现在正在撕裂这个国家。

At the heart of the conflict was an issue as old as the nation itself, slavery.

冲突的核心是一个与国家本身一样古老的问题:奴隶制。

Both those who defended slavery and those who opposed it believed God favored their cause.

那些捍卫奴隶制和反对奴隶制的人都相信上帝支持他们的事业。

Their certainty threatened not only the nation, but their special status as a chosen people.

他们的确定性不仅威胁到国家,也威胁到他们作为选民的特殊地位。

Yet the man at the center of the conflict was anything but certain about God's plan.

然而,处于冲突中心的那个人对上帝的计划却一点也不确定。

Abraham Lincoln had always kept his beliefs about God to himself.

亚伯拉罕·林肯一直对自己的上帝信仰保密。

HARRY S.

哈里·S。

STOUT, Historian, Yale University: Card-carrying Christians made him nervous.

斯托特,耶鲁大学历史学家:持有名片的基督徒让他感到紧张。

He had a deep and abiding suspicion of and hostility to that notion that "There's no possibility that I'm wrong.

他对“我不可能是错的”这个想法抱有深深而持久的怀疑和敌意。

I'm absolutely right, and I'm therefore righteous."

我是绝对正确的,因此我是正义的。”

NARRATOR

The Civil War would force Lincoln to re-examine his own relationship to God.

内战迫使林肯重新审视自己与上帝的关系。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

I am almost ready to say that this is probably true, that God wills this contest.

我几乎准备好说这可能是真的,上帝愿意这场比赛。

ALLEN C.

艾伦·C.

GUELZO, Historian, Gettysburg College: Lincoln is working out his own problem, his own difficulty.

盖尔佐,葛底斯堡学院历史学家:林肯正在解决他自己的问题,他自己的困难。

This is Lincoln's own agony and sweat over the ultimate question, "What is the will of God in this crisis?"

这是林肯自己对终极问题“在这场危机中上帝的旨意是什么?”的痛苦和汗水。

NARRATOR

In the spring of 1844, James Osgood Andrew, a Methodist bishop, prepared to leave Georgia for his church's national meeting in New York City.

1844 年春天,卫理公会主教詹姆斯·奥斯古德·安德鲁 (James Osgood Andrew) 准备离开佐治亚州,前往纽约参加教会的全国会议。

The Methodists had grown into the nation's largest religious denomination.

卫理公会已发展成为美国最大的宗教派别。

Their ministers traveled the country, foot soldiers in a missionary army spreading the faith.

他们的牧师走遍全国,成为传教士军队中的步兵,传播信仰。

They had become a fundamental part of the fabric that held the nation together.

他们已成为将国家凝聚在一起的基本组成部分。

Like other Protestants, Methodists believed God favored the United States.

与其他新教徒一样,卫理公会相信上帝眷顾美国。

MARGARET WASHINGTON, Historian, Cornell University: It was a covenant, an agreement between the people and God.

玛格丽特·华盛顿,康奈尔大学历史学家:这是一个盟约,是人民与上帝之间的协议。

They were a New Israel, a chosen people, and they had a responsibility to live up to God's covenant.

他们是新以色列,是选民,他们有责任履行上帝的圣约。

NARRATOR

For Andrew, the covenant with God meant dedicating his life to converting souls.

对于安德鲁来说,与上帝立约意味着将他的一生奉献给改变灵魂。

He toiled for nearly two decades as an itinerant minister, traveling the South, preaching mostly to the slave population.

他作为巡回牧师辛苦工作了近二十年,周游南方,主要向奴隶人口传教。

As reward for his dedication, he was elected bishop, the highest office in the Methodist church.

作为对他奉献精神的奖励,他被选为主教,这是卫理公会教堂的最高职位。

But now, as he set out on his trip North, Andrew was worried.

但现在,当安德鲁踏上北方之行时,他感到很担心。

His beloved Methodist Church was wracked by bitter infighting.

他心爱的卫理公会教堂因激烈的内讧而饱受摧残。

No one knew if it would survive intact.

没有人知道它是否能完好无损地幸存下来。

The battle had begun with a small yet vehement group of Christians who demanded an immediate end to slavery in America.

这场战斗是由一小群激烈的基督徒发起的,他们要求立即结束美国的奴隶制。

Known as abolitionists, they charged that slavery was a national sin.

他们被称为废奴主义者,他们指责奴隶制是一种民族罪恶。

RANDALL M.

兰德尔·M。

MILLER, Historian, St. Joseph's University: Unless you attack this sin, you are complicit in it, even if you're not a slave-holder.

米勒,圣约瑟夫大学历史学家:除非你攻击这种罪恶,否则你就是同谋,即使你不是奴隶主。

The nation is complicit in it by tolerating it.

这个国家通过容忍它而成为其中的同谋。

It will destroy this redeemer nation, and it will then stink in God's nostrils, and all will pay for it.

它将毁灭这个救世主国家,然后它将在上帝的鼻孔中发臭,所有人都会为此付出代价。

NARRATOR

Abolitionists demanded clergy speak out against slavery, as they did about other sins like drinking, stealing and adultery.

废奴主义者要求神职人员公开反对奴隶制,就像他们反对酗酒、偷窃和通奸等其他罪行一样。

DAVID W.

大卫·W.

BLIGHT, Historian, Yale University: They were deeply inspired by evangelical Christianity, by the idea that if a sinner can be converted to some degree of faith, and then to salvation in the Christian sense, practically overnight, then why not a whole society?

布莱特,耶鲁大学历史学家:他们深受福音派基督教的启发,认为如果一个罪人可以转变为某种程度的信仰,然后几乎在一夜之间获得基督教意义上的救赎,那么为什么整个社会不能呢?

NARRATOR

At the heart of the abolitionist movement was a former slave who had escaped to the North, Frederick Douglass.

废奴运动的核心人物是逃往北方的前奴隶弗雷德里克·道格拉斯。

FREDERICK DOUGLASS

I have seen my master tie up a lame young woman and whip her upon her naked shoulders, causing the warm red blood to drip.

我曾见过我的主人把一个瘸腿的年轻女子绑起来,用鞭子抽打她赤裸的肩膀,鲜红的鲜血滴落下来。

And in justification of the bloody deed, he would quote this passage of Scripture.

为了证明这一血腥行为的合理性,他引用了这段经文。

"He that knoweth his master's will, and doeth it not, shall be beaten with many stripes."

“明知主人意愿而不遵行的人,将遭受重重鞭打。”

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Here is an African-American who was born in slavery, who lived slavery, who's also a church member.

这是一位非裔美国人,他出生在奴隶制中,一直生活在奴隶制中,同时也是一名教会成员。

He was a Christian.

他是一名基督徒。

But he quickly discovered, both in slavery and then later as an abolitionist, the inconsistencies between slavery and Christianity.

但他很快就发现,无论是在奴隶制时期还是后来作为废奴主义者,奴隶制与基督教之间存在不一致之处。

NARRATOR

Douglass had been converted at a Methodist revival, inspired by the freedoms promised by the Bible.

道格拉斯在卫理公会复兴运动中受到《圣经》所承诺的自由的启发而皈依基督教。

MARGARET WASHINGTON

African-Americans saw Christianity as liberating, not just spiritually liberating but humanly liberating.

非裔美国人认为基督教是一种解放,不仅是精神上的解放,而且是人性上的解放。

Nothing was more graphic for the slaves than the story of the children of Israel being led out of bondage.

对于奴隶来说,没有什么比以色列人被带领脱离奴役的故事更生动的了。

When these stories were recounted to them, they couldn't help but look around at each other and say, "This is going to be our hope."

当这些故事向他们讲述时,他们情不自禁地环顾四周说:“这将是我们的希望。”

FREDERICK DOUGLASS

Between the Christianity of this land and the Christianity of Christ, I recognize the widest possible difference.

在这片土地上的基督教和基督的基督教之间,我认识到最大的差异。

The church and the slave prison stand next to each other.

教堂和奴隶监狱毗邻而立。

The church-going bell and the auctioneer's bell chime in with each other.

教堂的钟声和拍卖师的钟声互相呼应。

The pulpit and the auctioneer's block stand in the same neighborhood.

讲坛和拍卖师的区域位于同一街区。

JOHN STAUFFER, Historian, Harvard University: He blames American Christianity as a fundamental cause for the spread of slavery.

约翰·斯托弗(JOHN STAUFFER),哈佛大学历史学家:他指责美国基督教是奴隶制蔓延的根本原因。

He says that the Christian church has become a church that's in bed with these slave owners, and it bears no resemblance to the true message of Christ.

他说基督教会已经成为一个与这些奴隶主同床共枕的教会,它与基督的真正信息没有任何相似之处。

NARRATOR

For America's churches, slavery had become an unavoidable and divisive issue.

对于美国教会来说,奴隶制已经成为一个不可避免的分裂问题。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Slavery touches on all kinds of moral questions that churches are interested in, such as the sanctity of marriages, the separation of families, brutality.

奴隶制涉及教会感兴趣的各种道德问题,例如婚姻的神圣性、家庭的分离、残暴等。

What's allowed for one human being to do to another just to extract labor?

为了榨取劳动力,一个人可以对另一个人做什么?

All kinds of profound questions slavery brings up, and they're religious in nature.

奴隶制带来了各种深刻的问题,而且它们本质上都是宗教问题。

NARRATOR

And in May 1844, as Methodists from across the country gathered in New York, it was Bishop Andrew who would be the target of the anti-slavery attack, for Andrew had inherited a slave.

1844年5月,当来自全国各地的卫理公会教徒聚集在纽约时,安德鲁主教成为了反奴隶制攻击的目标,因为安德鲁继承了一名奴隶。

As long as he remained a slave owner, many Northern Methodists argued, he must resign as bishop.

许多北方卫理公会教徒认为,只要他仍然是奴隶主,他就必须辞去主教职务。

On May 22nd, a motion was put before the 180 delegates that would require the membership to vote on Andrew's future.

5 月 22 日,一项动议提交给 180 名代表,要求会员对安德鲁的未来进行投票。

Some Southern delegates argued that Andrew had inherited, rather than purchased the slave.

一些南方代表认为安德鲁继承了而不是购买了奴隶。

Others, like Reverend Augustus Longstreet from Georgia, pointed to the Bible to defend their bishop.

其他人,比如来自佐治亚州的奥古斯都·朗斯特里特牧师,则援引圣经来捍卫他们的主教。

Rev.

牧师。

AUGUSTUS LONGSTREET: You cannot, brethren, lay your finger on a text that says no man can hold slaves and be a Christian.

奥古斯都·朗斯特里特:弟兄们,你不能指望一段经文说,没有人可以拥有奴隶并成为基督徒。

JOHN B.

约翰·B.

BOLES, Historian, Rice University: Never did the Bible in any abstract way condemn slavery.

博尔斯,莱斯大学历史学家:圣经从来没有以任何抽象的方式谴责奴隶制。

And they were eager to find verses, for example, in the Book of Philemon, where Paul sends the slave back to his master.

他们渴望找到一些经文,例如《腓利门书》中保罗将奴隶送回主人身边的经文。

AUGUSTUS LONGSTREET

It appears plain to me why this epistle has been preserved.

我很清楚为什么这封书信被保存下来。

It is that men may see that it is possible to hold slaves and go to heaven.

是为了让人们看到拥有奴隶并进入天堂是可能的。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

If you're claiming we can't have a bishop that holds slaves, then you're suggesting that slave-holding is somehow incompatible with being a good Methodist.

如果你声称我们不能有一位持有奴隶的主教,那么你是在暗示持有奴隶在某种程度上与成为一个好的卫理公会教徒是不相容的。

And that means you're claiming that we're doing something wrong.

这意味着你声称我们做错了什么。

And slavery is not only not a wrong, it's a blessing.

奴隶制不仅不是错误,而且是一种祝福。

NARRATOR

Methodists shouted each other down as abolitionists looked on from the visitor's gallery.

卫理公会教徒互相大声喊叫,而废奴主义者则在观众席上观看。

Andrew was caught in the middle.

安德鲁被夹在中间。

If he offered to resign, which would satisfy his Northern brethren, his fellow Southerners would secede from the church.

如果他提出辞职,这能让他的北方弟兄满意,他的南方同胞就会退出教会。

HARRY S.

哈里·S。

STOUT, Historian, Yale University: Nobody goes into it, overnight.

STOUT,耶鲁大学历史学家:没有人在一夜之间深入研究它。

It's something that is for many agonizing because these were brothers in a common denomination, and it was it was very painful to contemplate separation.

这对许多人来说是一件痛苦的事情,因为他们是同一教派的兄弟,考虑分离是非常痛苦的。

NARRATOR

After nearly two weeks of impassioned debate, a vote on Andrew's future was finally taken.

经过近两周的激烈辩论,最终对安德鲁的未来进行了投票。

It broke down along regional lines- 68 Southerners defended Andrew, but 110 Northerners demanded he resign.

它按照地区划分——68 名南方人为安德鲁辩护,但 110 名北方人要求他辞职。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

They believe the same things.

他们相信同样的事情。

They look to the same founders.

他们仰赖同一个创始人。

They read the same documents.

他们阅读相同的文件。

They have this shared theology.

他们有共同的神学。

And now, in 1844, they say, "Yes, but on this one thing, we are fundamentally diametrically opposed."

而现在,1844 年,他们说:“是的,但在这一件事上,我们根本上是截然相反的。”

NARRATOR

A year later, what many had feared came to pass.

一年后,许多人担心的事情发生了。

Southern Methodists broke away and founded the Methodist Episcopal Church South.

南方卫理公会脱离并成立了南方卫理公会圣公会。

Other Protestant denominations ruptured, as well.

其他新教教派也破裂了。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Now there's no censorship because slavery's no longer the untouchable subject.

现在没有审查制度,因为奴隶制不再是不可触及的话题。

So with each political crisis, you've got ministers on both sides that can give sermons on it and can write letters and can publish tracts for and against.

因此,每次政治危机时,双方都有部长可以就此布道,可以写信,可以发表支持和反对的小册子。

ANTI-SLAVERY MINISTER

Every man who holds slaves and who pretends to be a Christian is an incurable Idiot.

每个拥有奴隶并假装是基督徒的人都是不可救药的白痴。

PRO-SLAVERY MINISTER

Slavery was established decree of Almighty God.

奴隶制是全能上帝的法令建立的。

It is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation.

从《创世记》到《启示录》,《圣经》、《新约》和《圣经》都认可这一点。

ANTI-SLAVERY MINISTER

He that stealeth a man and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

偷窃人口的,若将他卖了,或落在他手里,必要把他治死。

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: "Slavery is a divine institution," say the people in the South.

波士顿大学宗教教授斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗:“奴隶制是一个神圣的制度,”南方人民说。

"Well, slavery is a satanic, evil institution" say many in the North.

“嗯,奴隶制是一种邪恶的制度”,许多北方人说。

If neither side has the sense that God is backing that up, it just becomes a human argument.

如果双方都没有意识到上帝支持这一点,那么它就变成了人类的争论。

But if both sides have the sense the God is backing that up, it becomes a sort of cosmic conflagration.

但如果双方都感觉到上帝在支持这一点,那就会变成一场宇宙大火。

PRO-SLAVERY MINISTER

Moreover, of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and they shall be your possession.

并且,你们可以从寄居在你们中间的外邦人的子孙中买下他们,作为你们的产业。

They shall be your bondmen forever.

他们将永远是你的奴仆。

ANTI-SLAVERY MINISTER

Exodus Chapter 21, Verse 16.

出埃及记第 21 章第 16 节。

PRO-SLAVERY MINISTER

Leviticus Chapter 25, Verses 45 and 46.

利未记第 25 章第 45 和 46 节。

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NARRATOR

Into this religious turmoil stepped a new and untested president, a man who didn't presume to know the mind of God.

一位未经考验的新总统介入了这场宗教骚乱,他自以为了解上帝的心意。

HARRY S. STOUT

He had a deep and abiding suspicion of and hostility to that notion that "There's no possibility that I'm wrong.

他对“我不可能是错的”这个想法抱有深深而持久的怀疑和敌意。

I'm absolutely right, and I'm therefore righteous."

我是绝对正确的,因此我是正义的。”

NARRATOR

Growing up, Abraham Lincoln had witnessed waves of religious revivals on America's Western frontier.

亚伯拉罕·林肯在成长过程中目睹了美国西部边境的宗教复兴浪潮。

When his family joined a Baptist church, 14-year-old Abraham would attend the services but refused to join.

当他的家人加入浸信会教堂时,14 岁的亚伯拉罕会参加仪式,但拒绝参加。

RONALD C.

罗纳德·C.

WHITE, Jr., Historian, The Huntington Library: It's a quite conservative tradition, emotional.

怀特,Jr.,亨廷顿图书馆历史学家:这是一个相当保守的传统,情绪化。

Lincoln struggles with it.

林肯为此苦苦挣扎。

Lincoln is always suspicious of emotion.

林肯总是对情感持怀疑态度。

He always wants to raise the trumpet of reason in all of his thinking and acting.

他总是想在他所有的思考和行动中吹响理性的号角。

NARRATOR

But if Lincoln rejected his parents' religion, he never let go of its teachings.

但即使林肯拒绝了父母的宗教信仰,他也从未放弃其教义。

ALLEN C.

艾伦·C.

GUELZO, Historian, Gettysburg College: For Lincoln, if there is a God, he probably is not the personal God that Christianity talks about.

盖尔佐,葛底斯堡学院历史学家:对于林肯来说,如果有上帝,他可能不是基督教所谈论的个人上帝。

He might be a great watchmaker in the sky.

他可能是空中伟大的制表师。

He might be someone who sets the universe going according to its own natural laws and then stands back and lets it run without personally interfering himself.

他可能是这样一个人:让宇宙按照其自然法则运行,然后退后一步,让它自行运行,而不会亲自干预。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Man is a simple tool, a mere cog in the wheel, a part, a small part of this vast iron machine that strikes and cuts, grinds and mashes all things, including man, that resist it.

人是一个简单的工具,只是车轮上的一个齿轮,是这个巨大钢铁机器的一个部件,一个小部件,它撞击、切割、研磨和捣碎一切抵抗它的事物,包括人类。

RONALD C.

罗纳德·C.

WHITE, Jr.: The world has a certain order to it, but we are left by ourselves in this world.

怀特,Jr.:世界有一定的秩序,但我们被自己留在这个世界上。

God does not intervene directly.

上帝并不直接干预。

This is not a God with personality, not a God who is a loving God.

这不是一位有个性的神,也不是一位慈爱的神。

There's a certain humility before this God, but there's also a certain sense that his ways can never be fully understood.

在这位上帝面前有一定的谦卑,但也有一种感觉,他的道路永远无法被完全理解。

NARRATOR

In the spring of 1861, Lincoln faced the greatest crisis in the nation's history.

1861 年春,林肯面临美国历史上最大的危机。

Seven Southern states had seceded from the Union.

七个南方州已脱离联邦。

The United States was on the brink of war, and its newly elected president would have to address the nation.

美国正处于战争边缘,新当选的总统必须向全国发表讲话。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Before entering upon so grave a matter as the destruction of our national union- before entering upon so grave a matter as the destruction of our national fabric, with all its benefits, its memories and its hopes, would it not be wise to ascertain precisely why we do it?

在着手处理像破坏我们的民族联盟这样严重的问题之前——在处理像破坏我们的民族结构及其所有利益、记忆和希望这样严重的问题之前,弄清楚我们到底为什么这样做不是明智的吗?

NARRATOR

Lincoln believed that democracy should trump self-righteous religious conviction.

林肯认为民主应该胜过自以为是的宗教信仰。

While he opposed slavery, he was willing to accommodate it to save what was most sacred to him, the union.

虽然他反对奴隶制,但他愿意适应奴隶制,以拯救对他来说最神圣的东西——工会。

He understood the future of the nation itself hung in the balance.

他明白国家本身的未来悬而未决。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

To what extent are the sides kind of dug in with theological certainty?

双方在多大程度上具有神学确定性?

And I think Lincoln's hopeful that there is room for compromise.

我认为林肯希望有妥协的余地。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Will you hazard so desperate a step while there is any possibility that any portion of the ills you fly from have no real existence?

当你所逃避的任何疾病都可能根本不存在时,你会孤注一掷地冒险迈出这一步吗?

NARRATOR

On inauguration day, the president struck a delicate balance, urging a polarized nation to reunite.

就职当天,总统达成了微妙的平衡,敦促两极分化的国家重新统一。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

We are not enemies, but friends.

我们不是敌人,而是朋友。

We must not be enemies.

我们决不能成为敌人。

Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection.

尽管激情可能会紧张,但它绝不能破坏我们的感情纽带。

NARRATOR

Southern leaders rejected the president's plea.

南方领导人拒绝了总统的请求。

Unlike the U.S. Constitution, their newly drafted constitution invoked "the favor and guidance of Almighty God."

与美国宪法不同,他们新起草的宪法援引了“全能神的恩惠和指导”。

MARK A.

马克·A.

NOLL, Historian, University of Notre Dame: There was a great, overwhelming sense that the moral edge, the moral advantage, resided in the South.

诺尔,圣母大学历史学家:人们有一种强烈的、压倒性的感觉,即道德边缘、道德优势在于南方。

The Southern way of life was being attacked.

南方的生活方式正在受到攻击。

The institution of slavery that many of the Southern leaders had justified fully with a biblical defense was under assault.

许多南方领导人以圣经为依据充分证明奴隶制的合理性,但现在却受到了攻击。

Southerners in general felt that the Lord was on their side.

南方人普遍认为主站在他们一边。

JOHN B.

约翰·B.

BOLES, Historian: They believed that they are defending a divine institution.

博尔斯,历史学家:他们相信他们正在捍卫一个神圣的机构。

They believed that they are God's nation.

他们相信自己是上帝的国民。

In a very profound sense, I think, they believed that they were doing God's will.

我认为,从一种非常深刻的意义上来说,他们相信自己正在遵行上帝的旨意。

SOUTHERN MINISTER

Your cause is the cause of God, the cause of Christ, of humanity.

你的事业是上帝的事业、基督的事业、人类的事业。

It is a conflict of truth with error, of pure Christianity with Northern fanaticism.

这是真理与错误、纯粹基督教与北方狂热主义的冲突。

NARRATOR

But the North felt God favored their cause.

但北方人认为上帝偏爱他们的事业。

HARRY S. STOUT

The northern clergy are saying, "The Union is a sacred bond.

北方神职人员说:“联盟是神圣的纽带。

It cannot be broken."

它无法被打破。”

NORTHERN MINISTER

Repent.

悔改。

Forsake your sin.

离弃你的罪。

Lay down your arms.

放下你的手臂。

Retire from your rebellious attitude.

放弃你的叛逆态度。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

There was a contract between the American people and God.

美国人民和上帝之间有一份契约。

Who is anyone to bail out of that deal?

谁可以摆脱这笔交易?

MARGARET WASHINGTON, Historian: It was a question of a disintegration of the compact, and each region blaming the other for breaking this agreement that they had with God.

玛格丽特·华盛顿,历史学家:这是一个契约瓦解的问题,每个地区都指责对方违反了他们与上帝达成的协议。

NARRATOR

People on both sides came to believe that by defending their cause, they would guarantee their salvation.

双方的人们都相信,通过捍卫自己的事业,他们就能保证自己的救赎。

HARRY S. STOUT

Maybe the single most important question people are asking is, "What must I do to be saved?" When you put that mentality into place, and then you find ministers saying not only does God give you the right to pick up weapons and go to war, but it would actually be sinful if you didn't pick up weapons.

也许人们问的最重要的问题是:“我必须做什么才能得救?”当你把这种心态放在适当的位置时,你会发现牧师们说,上帝不仅赋予你拿起武器并参加战争的权利,而且如果你不拿起武器,那实际上是有罪的。

NARRATOR

On April 12, 1861, the war Lincoln had feared began.

1861 年 4 月 12 日,林肯担心的战争爆发了。

FREDERICK DOUGLASS

God be praised!

愿上帝赞美!

The war has come at last.

战争终于来了。

Let the long crushed bondsman arise, snatch back the liberty of which he's been so long robbed and despoiled.

让长期被压垮的奴隶起来吧,夺回他长期被剥夺和掠夺的自由。

NARRATOR

For Frederick Douglass, the war was proof that God condemned America for the sin of slavery.

对于弗雷德里克·道格拉斯来说,这场战争证明上帝谴责美国奴隶制的罪恶。

FREDERICK DOUGLASS

Men have a choice.

男人有选择。

They may be angels or they may be demons.

他们可能是天使,也可能是恶魔。

In the apocalyptic vision, John describes a war in heaven.

在世界末日的异象中,约翰描述了天上的一场战争。

Such is the struggle now in the United States.

这就是美国现在的斗争。

JOHN STAUFFER, Historian: Douglass literally says that the war is a battle between Michael and his angels against Satan.

约翰·斯托弗,历史学家:道格拉斯从字面上说,这场战争是迈克尔和他的天使与撒旦之间的战斗。

Douglass is one of those angels.

道格拉斯就是这些天使之一。

NARRATOR

Douglass was not alone.

道格拉斯并不孤单。

Many Americans considered the war an apocalyptic event unleashed by God, a belief embodied in a new hymn that became a Northern anthem.

许多美国人认为这场战争是上帝引发的世界末日事件,这种信仰体现在一首新的赞美诗中,后来成为北方国歌。

DAVID W.

大卫·W.

BLIGHT, Historian: If you read those lyrics, it's God entering history with his terrible swift sword, and he is tearing up the landscape.

布莱特,历史学家:如果你读过那些歌词,就会发现上帝正用他那可怕的快剑进入历史,他正在撕裂这片土地。

And out of it is going to come something better, or newer or bigger.

由此将会产生更好、更新或更大的东西。

MARGARET WASHINGTON

"As he died to make men holy, let us to make men free." This is a struggle between good and evil.

“正如他的死使人类变得圣洁一样,让我们​​让人类获得自由。”这是一场善与恶的斗争。

HARRY S. STOUT

You have to ask yourself the question that most people in the 19th century asked with great interest, "How do you think the world's going to end?

你必须问自己一个 19 世纪大多数人饶有兴趣地问过的问题:“你认为世界将如何终结?

What about everything we read in the Book of Revelation, where the forces of Christ and his followers mass against the forces of Antichrist?" All of these prophecies pointing towards the initiation of a new heaven and a new earth.

我们在《启示录》中读到的基督及其追随者的力量联合起来对抗敌基督的力量又如何呢?”所有这些预言都指向新天新地的开始。

For Protestants, this was as certain as July is warmer than December.

对于新教徒来说,这是肯定的,就像七月比十二月温暖一样。

NARRATOR

Telegraphed reports from the battlefront confirmed Lincoln's worst fear.

来自前线的电报证实了林肯最担心的事情。

There would not be a swift and decisive conclusion to the war: 460 Union soldiers killed at Bull Run, 346 casualties at Rich Mountain, more than 2,000 at Wilson's Creek.

战争不会迅速而决定性地结束:460 名联邦士兵在 Bull Run 阵亡,346 人在 Rich Mountain 伤亡,2,000 多人在 Wilson's Creek 伤亡。

Lincoln read them day and night.

林肯日日夜夜地阅读它们。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

I have been anxious and careful that the inevitable conflict for this purpose shall not degenerate into a violent and remorseless revolutionary struggle.

我一直焦急而谨慎地希望,为此目的而不可避免的冲突不会退化为暴力和无情的革命斗争。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

He's saying, "Let's not do this.

他说:“我们不要这样做。

Let's not make it," you know, "the certainty Christians on one side and the certainty Christians on the other side killing each other over their certain views of God."

我们不要让这一点,”你知道,“一方的基督徒和另一方的基督徒因为他们对上帝的某些看法而互相残杀。”

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

I have, therefore, in every case thought it proper to keep the integrity of the union prominent as the primary object of the contest on our part.

因此,在任何情况下,我都认为将保持工会的完整性作为我们竞争的首要目标是适当的。

JOSHUA WOLF SHENK, Writer: You have widows and orphans coming to Lincoln constantly.

约书亚·沃尔夫·申克,作家:不断有寡妇和孤儿来到林肯。

They line up in the hallway.

他们在走廊里排队。

He has to pass through this crowd of visitors just to get from his living space to his office.

他必须穿过这群访客才能从他的生活空间到达他的办公室。

RONALD C.

罗纳德·C.

WHITE, Jr., Historian: As he recognizes the pain all around him and the cost not simply of the lives of these young men but to their wives, mothers, sweethearts- what this is going to mean for the future of the country?

怀特,Jr.,历史学家:当他认识到他周围的痛苦以及这些年轻人的生命代价以及他们的妻子、母亲和爱人的生命代价时,这对国家的未来意味着什么?

NARRATOR

Lincoln toured hospitals and sat with the sick and wounded.

林肯巡视医院,与伤病员坐在一起。

RANDALL M.

兰德尔·M。

MILLER, Historian: If things are supposed to be right, it should be that bad people suffer and die and good people triumph.

米勒,历史学家:如果事情应该是正确的,那就应该是坏人受苦和死亡,好人胜利。

But the war was demonstrating that death came to people regardless of whether they were good or bad.

但战争表明,无论好人还是坏人,死亡都会降临到人身上。

ALLEN C.

艾伦·C.

GUELZO, Historian: While Lincoln won't actually say, "I am responsible for this," he has a government, he has a war, he has a nation to whom he is responsible.

历史学家格尔佐:虽然林肯实际上不会说“我对此负责”,但他有一个政府,他有一场战争,他有一个他要负责的国家。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

If Hell is not any worse than this, it has no terror for me.

如果地狱不比这更糟糕的话,我就没有恐惧了。

NARRATOR

Then in February 1862, death visited the White House itself.

1862 年 2 月,死亡降临到白宫。

Lincoln's third and favorite son, Willie, died of typhoid fever.

林肯的第三个也是最喜欢的儿子威利死于伤寒。

He was just 11 years old.

他当时只有11岁。

Lincoln found a measure of consolation in the eulogy delivered by a Presbyterian minister, Phineas Gurley, at Willie's funeral.

林肯在威利葬礼上长老会牧师菲尼亚斯·格利发表的悼词中找到了一定程度的安慰。

Rev.

牧师。

PHINEAS GURLEY: What we need in the hour of trial, and what we should seek by earnest prayer, is confidence in Him who sees the end from the beginning and doeth all things well.

菲尼亚斯·古利:在考验的时刻,我们所需要的,也是我们应该通过恳切的祈祷来寻求的,就是对上帝的信心,他从一开始就看到了结局,并且把所有的事情都做好了。

Let us acknowledge his hand and hear his voice and inquire after his will and seek his holy spirit as our counselor and guide, and all, in the end, will be well.

让我们承认他的手,听他的声音,询问他的意愿,寻求他的圣灵作为我们的顾问和指导,最终一切都会好起来的。

RONALD C.

罗纳德·C.

WHITE, Jr.: There's no facile explanation as to why Willie might be better off in heaven.

小怀特:对于为什么威利在天堂可能会过得更好,没有简单的解释。

There's none of that in this sermon.

这篇讲道中没有这些内容。

There's this recognition of the mystery of God's dealings, but there's also the affirmation of the comfort God at times of loss.

这是对神作为的奥秘的认识,但也有对神在失落时的安慰的肯定。

The comfort is in a loving God, a God who cares for us.

安慰在于一位慈爱的神,一位关心我们的神。

NARRATOR

Lincoln asked for a copy of Reverend Gurley's eulogy.

林肯要求获得格利牧师的悼词副本。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

"What we need in the hour of trial, and what we should seek by earnest prayer, is confidence in him who sees the end from the beginning and doeth all things well."

“在考验的时刻,我们所需要的,也是我们应该通过恳切的祈祷来寻求的,是对从一开始就看到结局并做好万事的那一位的信心。”

RONALD C.

罗纳德·C.

WHITE, Jr.: This sermon is a real pivotal moment in Lincoln's life.

小怀特:这次布道是林肯一生中真正的关键时刻。

Your son has died.

你的儿子死了。

You listen to this sermon.

你听这个讲道。

This pastor comes into the White House and suggests to you that you need to trust in a loving God with personality, who acts in history.

这位牧师来到白宫,向你建议,你需要相信一位有个性、有爱心、在历史中行事的上帝。

NARRATOR

A few months after his son's death, Lincoln began to re-examine his relationship with God.

儿子去世几个月后,林肯开始重新审视他与上帝的关系。

RONALD C.

罗纳德·C.

WHITE, Jr.: It was untitled and undated.

怀特,Jr.:它没有标题,也没有日期。

It's on a little slip of paper, lined paper.

它写在一张小纸条上,横格纸上。

This is something Lincoln never expected any of us to ever see.

这是林肯从未期望我们任何人看到的。

He was not about to publish this.

他不打算发表这个。

This was his own private musing and reflection.

这是他个人的沉思和反思。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

The will of God prevails.

神的旨意占上风。

ALLEN C. GUELZO

Lincoln is working out on paper his own problem, his own difficulty.

林肯正在纸上解决他自己的问题、他自己的困难。

This is Lincoln's own agony and sweat over the ultimate question, "What is the will of God in this crisis?"

这是林肯自己对终极问题“在这场危机中上帝的旨意是什么?”的痛苦和汗水。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

In great contests, each party claims to act in accordance with the will of God.

在伟大的竞赛中,每一方都声称自己按照上帝的意志行事。

Both may be, one must be, wrong.

两者都可能是错误的,也一定是错误的。

God cannot be for and against the same thing at the same time.

神不能同时支持和反对同一件事。

I am almost ready to say that this is probably true, that God wills this contest, and wills that it shall not end yet, by his mere quiet power on the minds of the now contestants, He could have either saved or destroyed the union without a human contest.

我几乎准备好说,这可能是真的,上帝愿意这场竞赛,并且愿意它不会结束,仅凭他对现在参赛者心灵的安静力量,他就可以在没有人类竞赛的情况下拯救或摧毁联邦。

Yet the contest began.

然而比赛开始了。

And having begun, he could give the final victory to either side any day.

一旦开始,他随时都可以给任何一方带来最后的胜利。

Yet the contest proceeds.

然而比赛仍在继续。

JOSHUA WOLF SHENK

Lincoln is considering this epic and awful idea that the master of order and goodness is actually in favor, in some way, of the carnage and suffering because of some larger end.

林肯正在考虑这个史诗般的可怕想法,即秩序和善良的主人实际上在某种程度上支持屠杀和痛苦,因为有一些更大的目的。

Lincoln's mind is turned towards that question, "Out of this affliction, what good might come?"

林肯的心思转向了这个问题:“摆脱这种痛苦,会带来什么好处呢?”

NARRATOR

Lincoln determined that he must act.

林肯决定他必须采取行动。

ALLEN C. GUELZO

There must be something new and novel that God is interjecting here.

上帝一定在这里插入了一些新奇的东西。

God is doing something new in this war.

神在这场战争中正在做一些新的事情。

What could that new thing be?

这个新东西可能是什么?

Ah!

啊!

Emancipation!

解放!

NARRATOR

In September 1862, the president called his cabinet together.

1862 年 9 月,总统召集内阁。

Southern troops had been defeated after a fierce battle at Antietam Creek.

南方军队在安提特姆河激战后被击败。

It was a divine signal, he said, for him to issue a proclamation abolishing slavery in the rebellious states.

他说,这是一个神圣的信号,让他发布废除反叛州奴隶制的公告。

ALLEN C. GUELZO

It was so astounding that one member of his Cabinet actually asked him to repeat himself because he was sure he hadn't heard it right.

令人震惊的是,他的一位内阁成员竟然要求他重复一遍,因为他确信自己没有听错。

NARRATOR

"God," Lincoln declared, "had decided this question in favor of the slaves."

林肯宣称:“上帝在这个问题上做出了有利于奴隶的决定。”

RONALD C.

罗纳德·C.

WHITE, Jr., Historian: "I have been told by God to free these slaves."

历史学家小怀特:“上帝告诉我要释放这些奴隶。”

ALLEN C. GUELZO

God has ceased to be this machinery, grinding and chopping.

上帝不再是这台研磨和切割的机器。

Instead, God has plunged himself into the flow of human events, to direct them in a very personal way.

相反,上帝将自己投入到人类事件的流动中,以非常个人的方式指导它们。

And it is to this God that Lincoln appeals.

林肯所呼吁的正是这位上帝。

NARRATOR

On January 1st, 1863, Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation into law, freeing slaves in the rebel states.

1863 年 1 月 1 日,亚伯拉罕·林肯签署《解放奴隶宣言》成为法律,解放了叛乱州的奴隶。

MARGARET WASHINGTON

"Jehovah has triumphed.

“耶和华胜利了。

His people are free." This was indeed the coming of the Lord.

他的人民是自由的。”这确实是主的降临。

DAVID W.

大卫·W.

BLIGHT, Yale University: This was a religious moment.

布莱特,耶鲁大学:这是一个宗教时刻。

This was a moment to be experienced in biblical time, in religious time, in spiritual time.

这是一个在圣经时代、宗教时代、精神时代都值得经历的时刻。

It was an event for the soul.

这是一场灵魂盛会。

NARRATOR

But Southern whites ignored Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation.

但南方白人无视林肯的《解放黑奴宣言》。

And in the North, racism prevailed.

在北方,种族主义盛行。

Many doubted whether black solders, now being enlisted, had the courage to fight.

许多人怀疑现在入伍的黑人士兵是否有勇气战斗。

The war dragged on and casualties mounted on both sides.

战争旷日持久,双方伤亡不断增加。

At Chancellorsville, Virginia, more than 20,000 were killed or wounded in six days of combat.

在弗吉尼亚州钱斯勒斯维尔,六天的战斗中有超过 20,000 人死伤。

At Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, North and South suffered 50,000 casualties in just three days of battle.

在宾夕法尼亚州的葛底斯堡,南北双方在短短三天的战斗中就伤亡了 5 万人。

But Lincoln was resolute.

但林肯态度坚决。

MARGARET WASHINGTON

"If we are right," says Lincoln, "and if what we are doing is good in the sight of God, then we have to carry it through to its fruition because in the process of making African-Americans free, we are freeing ourselves.

林肯说:“如果我们是对的,如果我们正在做的事情在上帝眼中是好的,那么我们就必须将其付诸实践,因为在让非裔美国人获得自由的过程中,我们也在解放我们自己。

And once we free ourselves, then we can begin again."

一旦我们解放了自己,我们就可以重新开始。”

NARRATOR

The president articulated his new understanding of the war in November 1863 at the dedication of a cemetery for Union soldiers lost at Gettysburg.

1863 年 11 月,总统在葛底斯堡阵亡联邦士兵墓地落成典礼上阐述了他对战争的新理解。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

We here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.

我们在此下定决心,不让这些死者白白牺牲,让这个国家在上帝的领导下获得自由的新生,让民有、民治、民享的政府不会从地球上消失。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Lincoln asks Americans who have suffered so much, and who are going to continue to suffer - he knows this - to re-conceptualize this massive death, like a minister might, to understand this in a theological way as redemptive bloodshed, like Christ's redemptive bloodshed.

林肯要求那些遭受了如此多苦难、并将继续受苦的美国人——他知道这一点——像牧师那样重新概念化这场大规模的死亡,以神学的方式将其理解为救赎性的流血,就像基督的救赎性流血一样。

The sacrifice, is going to be for a new birth of freedom which will be for all citizens in America.

这种牺牲将是为了美国所有公民的自由的新生。

DAVID W. BLIGHT

He has changed the very aim and purpose of the war.

他改变了战争的目的和目的。

He has given it this holy quality now.

他现在赋予了它这种神圣的品质。

It is now for a redefinition of human freedom.

现在是对人类自由的重新定义。

NARRATOR

It made no difference how long it might take and how many lives would be lost.

无论需要多长时间以及会失去多少生命,都没有什么区别。

Lincoln was determined the North must win.

林肯决心北方必须获胜。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

We accepted this war for an object, a worthy object, and the war will end when that object is attained.

我们为了一个目标而接受这场战争,一个有价值的目标,当这个目标实现时,战争就会结束。

Under God, I hope it never will until that time.

在上帝的保佑下,我希望在那之前永远不会发生。

HARRY S. STOUT

How do you justify destroying farms?

你如何证明摧毁农场的合理性?

How do you justify bringing war upon the elderly, upon women, upon children with no defending army in sight?

在看不到保卫军队的情况下,你如何证明对老年人、妇女和儿童发动战争是正当的?

It requires a sort of withdrawal, where ultimately, it is not me who is orchestrating this but God.

它需要某种退缩,最终,不是我在策划这一切,而是上帝。

NARRATOR

Lincoln found comfort in the story of Job in the Old Testament.

林肯在《旧约》中约伯的故事中找到了安慰。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job, and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God.

乌斯地有一个人,名叫约伯,是一个完全正直、敬畏神的人。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

It's a story about a man who has a special relationship with God, and all he seems to get is grief.

这是一个关于一个与上帝有着特殊关系的人的故事,他所得到的似乎只有悲伤。

And the question is why?

问题是为什么?

You know, why doesn't God bring grief to the people who are out of relationship with God or the people whom God doesn't favor or the people whom God has not chosen?

你知道,为什么神不给那些与神没有关系的人、那些神不喜欢的人、那些神没有拣选的人带来悲伤呢?

And the message seems to be that God's job wasn't to fix our world.

传达的信息似乎是上帝的工作不是修复我们的世界。

It's our job to fix the world in the direction that we believe God is pushing it.

我们的工作就是让世界朝着我们相信上帝推动的方向发展。

NARRATOR

After four grueling years of war and 600,000 dead, by the spring of 1865, the North had prevailed.

经过四年艰苦的战争和 60 万人死亡,到 1865 年春天,北方取得了胜利。

ALLEN C. GUELZO

"Aha," say many triumphalistic Northerners.

“啊哈,”许多必胜的北方人说。

"See?

“看到了吗?

We were right, we of the North.

我们是对的,我们是北方人。

We were right about our opposition to slavery.

我们反对奴隶制的观点是正确的。

We were on the side of God.

我们站在上帝一边。

God has been directing us.

神一直在指引我们。

We have been God's instrument in smiting and slaying the secessionist, slave-holding dragon."

我们一直是上帝打击和杀死分裂主义、奴隶主之龙的工具。”

NARRATOR

Thirty thousand people gathered at the Capitol expecting to hear their re-elected president celebrate a great victory for the North, a victory they felt had been guided by God's hand.

三万人聚集在国会大厦,期待听到他们连任的总统庆祝朝鲜的伟大胜利,他们认为这场胜利是由上帝之手引导的。

ALLEN C. GUELZO

"And now it's our turn to enjoy the fruits of being right and victorious."

“现在轮到我们享受正义和胜利的果实了。”

NARRATOR

But Abraham Lincoln didn't feel triumphant.

但亚伯拉罕·林肯并没有感到胜利。

The war had been too brutal, and God's intentions too uncertain, for a righteous celebration.

战争太过残酷,上帝的意图也太不确定,无法举行正义的庆祝活动。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained.

双方都没有预料到战争会达到如此规模和持续时间。

Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes his aid against the other.

两人都读同一本圣经,向同一位上帝祈祷,并且各自援引他的帮助来对抗对方。

The prayers of both could not be answered.

两人的祈祷都未能得到回应。

That of neither has been answered fully.

两者的问题都没有得到充分的回答。

The Almighty has his own purposes.

全能者有他自己的目的。

ALLEN C. GUELZO

Lincoln had no incentive, much less mandate, for talking about God in the second inaugural.

林肯没有动机,更不用说授权,在第二次就职演说中谈论上帝了。

If you look at the preceding 15 presidents' worth of inaugural addresses, God makes nothing more than a perfunctory appearance.

如果你看看之前15位总统的就职演说,上帝只不过是敷衍了事而已。

All that changes with Lincoln's second inaugural.

林肯第二次就职后,这一切都发生了变化。

NARRATOR

The war, Lincoln had come to believe, was God's punishment of the entire nation for 250 years of slavery.

林肯开始相信,这场战争是上帝对整个国家 250 年奴隶制的惩罚。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away.

我们衷心希望、热切祈祷,这场巨大的战争祸害能够迅速过去。

Yet if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's 250 years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, as was said 3,000 years ago, so still it must be said, the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.

然而,如果上帝希望这种情况继续下去,直到奴隶250年无回报的辛劳所积累的所有财富都被沉没,就像3000年前所说的那样,那么仍然必须说,上帝的审判是真实而公义的。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The second inaugural goes back to the first Americans, who understood they were in this relationship with God, where God would bless them if they did good and God would punish them if they did bad, and where they wouldn't really know what God exactly was doing and they would try their best to be on the side of God and righteousness and justice.

第二次就职典礼可以追溯到第一批美国人,他们明白他们与上帝处于这种关系中,如果他们做好事,上帝会祝福他们,如果他们做了坏事,上帝会惩罚他们,他们并不真正知道上帝到底在做什么,他们会尽力站在上帝、公义和正义一边。

And that's what he's expressing.

这就是他所表达的。

NARRATOR

The crowd was mostly silent throughout Lincoln's address until halfway through, when African-Americans in the audience began to repeat "Bless the Lord" after each sentence.

林肯的演讲过程中,人群大多保持沉默,直到演讲进行到一半时,观众中的非裔美国人开始在每句话后重复“保佑上帝”。

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in.

让我们怀着对任何人的恶意,对所有人的仁爱,坚定不移地坚持上帝赋予我们的正义,让我们努力完成我们正在从事的工作。

FREDERICK DOUGLASS

A dreadful disaster has befallen the nation.

一场可怕的灾难降临到了这个国家。

I feel it as a personal as well as a national calamity.

我觉得这既是个人的灾难,也是国家的灾难。

NARRATOR

Lincoln was shot on Good Friday, six weeks after his second inaugural address.

林肯在耶稣受难日被枪杀,即他第二次就职演说六周后。

That Easter Sunday, Northern ministers eulogized their fallen leader.

那个复活节周日,北方部长们歌颂了他们倒下的领导人。

RONALD C.

罗纳德·C.

WHITE, Jr.: Ministers, pastors, preachers across the land quickly began to interpret Lincoln's death.

小怀特:全国各地的牧师、牧师、传教士很快开始解读林肯之死。

And they interpreted his death as, in Christian language, an atonement, that he had died for the nation's sins, that his blood was a kind of offering.

他们将他的死用基督教的语言解释为一种赎罪,他为民族的罪孽而死,他的血是一种祭品。

He was almost the last casualty of the Civil War.

他几乎是南北战争的最后一名伤亡者。

NARRATOR

"The grave cannot hold him, and he is risen!" a Boston minister declared.

“坟墓无法容纳他,但他复活了!”一位波士顿部长宣布。

"He was the well beloved Son of God."

“他是上帝深爱的儿子。”

RANDALL M.

兰德尔·M。

MILLER, Historian: Lincoln's assassination acquired very rapidly religious meaning.

历史学家米勒:林肯遇刺很快就获得了宗教意义。

Lincoln was now to be lifted up through the clouds by the angels to sit at the side of God.

林肯现在将被天使带上云层,坐在上帝的身边。

NARRATOR

"Jesus Christ died for the world," a preacher in Hartford proclaimed.

“耶稣基督为世界而死,”哈特福德的一位传教士宣称。

"Abraham Lincoln died for his country."

“亚伯拉罕·林肯为他的国家而死。”

STEPHEN PROTHERO

God's righteous anger was called down upon the country.

上帝公义的愤怒降临到这个国家。

God sent this horrible conflagration to punish us for the sin of slavery.

上帝降下这场可怕的大火来惩罚我们奴隶制的罪恶。

We deserve more punishment than we got, but Lincoln, like Christ, took the sin of slavery onto his own body and onto his own person.

我们应该受到比我们得到的更多的惩罚,但林肯像基督一样,将奴隶制的罪孽转嫁到了他自己的身上和他自己的身上。

FREDERICK DOUGLASS

It may be the blood of our beloved martyred President will be the salvation of our country.

也许我们敬爱的烈士总统的鲜血将拯救我们的国家。

Though Abraham Lincoln dies, the Republic lives.

尽管亚伯拉罕·林肯去世了,但共和国依然存在。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

From the very beginning, from the Puritans and the Pilgrims on, we're trying to figure out what the national religious story is, and Lincoln gives voice to that.

从一开始,从清教徒和朝圣者开始,我们就试图弄清楚国家的宗教故事是什么,林肯对此表达了自己的看法。

He articulates our sense of chosen-ness, but he also articulates the fact that we have not achieved what we should have achieved.

他阐明了我们的选择感,但他也阐明了我们没有实现我们应该实现的目标的事实。

The freedoms that we should be manifesting are always out in front of us.

我们应该表现出的自由始终就在我们面前。

Episode 4: A New Light [The words spoken by the actors in this film are from transcripts, sermons and personal journals of the characters they portray.]

第4集:新的曙光[本片中演员所说的话来自他们所扮演的角色的文字记录、布道和个人日记。]

NARRATOR

For decades, Americans had been consumed with the battle over slavery, unmindful of profound changes taking place in their country.

几十年来,美国人一直忙于奴隶制的斗争,忽视了他们的国家正在发生的深刻变化。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

A lot of Americans are not paying close attention to the fact that we've got waves of immigrants coming, and they're not predominantly Protestant.

许多美国人并没有密切关注移民潮即将到来的事实,而且他们并不是以新教徒为主。

They're Jewish, they're Catholic, and they're coming from Europe.

他们是犹太人,他们是天主教徒,他们来自欧洲。

And they're going to really fundamentally reshape the religious landscape.

他们将从根本上重塑宗教格局。

NARRATOR

Five million immigrants had arrived on America's eastern shores between 1820 and 1860.

1820 年至 1860 年间,已有 500 万移民抵达美国东海岸。

Among them were thousands of Jews.

其中有数千名犹太人。

America offered opportunity and freedom, but it also challenged an ancient faith.

美国提供了机会和自由,但它也挑战了古老的信仰。

In many parts of Europe, authorities controlled Jewish life, restricting where Jews could live, prohibiting their ownership of land and limiting their interaction with non-Jews.

在欧洲许多地方,当局控制犹太人的生活,限制犹太人的居住地点,禁止他们拥有土地并限制他们与非犹太人的互动。

In America, Jews could settle where they wanted and partner in business with whomever they liked.

在美国,犹太人可以在他们想要的地方定居,并与他们喜欢的任何人合作。

Some even adopted the ways of gentiles, socializing and marrying them.

有些人甚至采用了外邦人的生活方式,与他们交往和通婚。

Jewish leaders worried American Jews were losing their identity.

犹太领导人担心美国犹太人正在失去自己的身份。

"In the wilds of America," warned one, "you will forget your religion and your God."

“在美国的荒野中,”一位警告说,“你会忘记你的宗教和你的上帝。”

JEFFREY S.

杰弗里·S。

GUROCK, Historian, Yeshiva University: There's a great desire to act and look and behave like the Protestant majority without abandoning their faith.

古洛克,叶史瓦大学历史学家:人们非常渴望像大多数新教徒一样行事、外表和行为,而又不放弃自己的信仰。

And that's one of the critical crises for Jews, "If we must make changes in order for Judaism to survive, how far do we want to go?"

这是犹太人面临的关键危机之一,“如果我们必须做出改变才能使犹太教生存,我们想走多远?”

NARRATOR

This struggle would consume one young German Jew who settled in Albany, New York, in 1846.

这场斗争让一位 1846 年定居纽约州奥尔巴尼的年轻德国犹太人付出了巨大的努力。

From the moment he took a job as a rabbi, Isaac Mayer Wise would embrace America's spirit of opportunity.

从担任拉比的那一刻起,艾萨克·梅耶·怀斯就拥抱了美国的机会精神。

HASIA R.

哈西亚·R。

DINER, Historian, New York University: There's some question if he was ever actually ordained.

纽约大学历史学家迪纳:有人怀疑他是否真的被任命过。

From the American point of view, it made absolutely no difference, and he could be Rabbi with a capital R.

从美国人的角度来看,这绝对没有什么区别,他可以是大写字母R的拉比。

Rabbi LANCE J.

拉比兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN, Historian: He was a builder and a mover.

苏斯曼,历史学家:他是一位建设者和推动者。

It was a new country, and he was eager to jump into the fray and be part of that building process.

这是一个新的国家,他渴望加入战斗并成为建设过程的一部分。

NARRATOR

Wise's synagogue was one of fewer than 40 Jewish congregations in the entire country.

怀斯的犹太教堂是全国不足 40 个犹太教堂之一。

It was the spiritual home of peddlers and storekeepers.

这里是商贩和店主的精神家园。

JEFFREY S. GUROCK

They are poor.

他们很穷。

They're immigrants.

他们是移民。

And the Judaism that they brought with them from Europe is a traditional form of Judaism.

而他们从欧洲带来的犹太教是犹太教的传统形式。

NARRATOR

Traditional Judaism requires strict adherence to ancient laws dictating how to pray, dress, and even what to eat.

传统犹太教要求严格遵守古老的法律,规定如何祈祷、着装,甚至吃什么。

JONATHAN D.

乔纳森·D.

SARNA, Historian, Brandeis University: Jews talk about commandments, and in traditional Judaism those mitzvot - those commandments - are actually more central in many ways than beliefs.

SARNA,历史学家,布兰代斯大学:犹太人谈论戒律,而在传统犹太教中,这些戒律实际上在很多方面比信仰更重要。

NARRATOR

In Albany, Wise was dismayed to discover that members of his congregation were working on the Sabbath, proof, he felt, that America's Jews were neglecting beliefs that were at the heart of their faith.

在奥尔巴尼,怀斯沮丧地发现他的会众成员在安息日工作,他认为这证明美国的犹太人忽视了他们信仰的核心信仰。

JEFFREY S. GUROCK

He sees American Judaism as a mess.

他认为美国犹太教一团糟。

It's poorly organized, very few leaders, and significantly, large numbers of Jews falling away from Jewish practice and tradition.

它的组织很差,领导人很少,而且值得注意的是,大量犹太人背离了犹太习俗和传统。

NARRATOR

Before leaving Germany, Wise had heard scholars call for reforms to traditional practice.

在离开德国之前,怀斯听到学者们呼吁改革传统做法。

Judaism, they believed, should change to fit a modern world.

他们认为,犹太教应该改变以适应现代世界。

Wise came to believe that if Jews kept to the core tenets of the faith - fearing God, loving man and observing the Sabbath - then traditional laws governing everyday life were negotiable.

怀斯开始相信,如果犹太人坚守信仰的核心原则——敬畏上帝、爱人、遵守安息日——那么统治日常生活的传统法律就是可以商量的。

And America could be the Promised Land, a perfect setting for reform.

美国可能成为应许之地,一个完美的改革环境。

HASIA R. DINER

American ideas were so powerful and so seductive and so welcoming that if they had to choose between Judaism without an American quality to it and America, they were going to opt for America.

美国的思想是如此强大、如此诱人、如此受欢迎,以至于如果他们必须在没有美国品质的犹太教和美国之间做出选择,他们会选择美国。

And so he saw reform as a way to preserve Judaism.

因此,他将改革视为保护犹太教的一种方式。

Rabbi ISAAC MAYER WISE: We are almost the first generation of Israel in America.

拉比艾萨克·梅耶·怀斯:我们几乎是美国的第一代以色列人。

We must prepare the future of our faith.

我们必须为我们信仰的未来做好准备。

There rests upon our shoulders the future development of Judaism in this country.

犹太教在这个国家的未来发展担负在我们的肩上。

NARRATOR

According to Jewish tradition, men and women sit separately in synagogue and pray in Hebrew.

根据犹太传统,男人和女人分开坐在犹太教堂里,用希伯来语祈祷。

Wise introduced a co-ed choir, and since few in his congregation understood Hebrew, he led prayers in English and German.

怀斯引入了一个男女混合合唱团,由于他的会众中很少有人懂希伯来语,所以他用英语和德语主持祈祷。

JEFFREY S. GUROCK

Wise wants to help them.

怀斯想帮助他们。

He wants to create a ritual which combines many of the elements of the traditional faith of the past, but with some adjustments in terms of language, in terms of ritual, which will be appropriate for people becoming more Americanized.

他想创造一种仪式,结合了过去传统信仰的许多元素,但在语言、仪式方面进行了一些调整,这将适合越来越美国化的人们。

NARRATOR

Many members of Wise's congregation charged that his efforts to modernize Judaism were diluting it.

怀斯会众的许多成员指责他为犹太教现代化所做的努力正在削弱它。

Rabbi LANCE J.

拉比兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN, Historian: When he was criticized, he didn't say, "I'm sorry." He pushed harder.

历史学家苏斯曼:当他受到批评时,他没有说“对不起”。他更用力地推。

He pushed his line harder.

他更加努力地推进自己的路线。

NARRATOR

After four years, Wise's critics had had enough of his reforming zeal.

四年后,怀斯的批评者已经厌倦了他的改革热情。

Just before Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year, Wise was fired.

就在犹太新年之前,怀斯被解雇了。

But two days later, he showed up at the synagogue to conduct services anyway.

但两天后,他还是出现在犹太教堂进行礼拜。

When Wise reached for the Torah scrolls, the president of the congregation pushed him aside and punched him.

当怀斯伸手去拿托拉卷轴时,会长把他推到一边并打了他一拳。

A fight broke out, and the sheriff was called to the synagogue.

一场打斗爆发了,治安官被叫到犹太教堂。

JEFFREY S. GUROCK

Who's in charge here?

这里谁负责?

Is it the congregants who are in charge, or the rabbi?

是由会众负责,还是由拉比负责?

And this is not necessarily a Jewish story.

这不一定是犹太人的故事。

It's an American religious story.

这是一个美国宗教故事。

Is the pastor in charge, or is the laity in charge?

是牧师负责,还是平信徒负责?

NARRATOR

Undaunted, Wise held services the next day in the parlor of his house for those who welcomed his reforms.

怀斯毫不畏惧,第二天在他家的客厅里为那些欢迎他的改革的人举行了仪式。

HASIA R. DINER

You don't like it?

你不喜欢它?

You leave and you start your own congregation.

你离开并开始你自己的教会。

Just as the United States seceded from England, you can start your own.

正如美国从英国独立一样,你也可以开始自己的独立。

NARRATOR

No longer accountable to anyone, Wise's ambitions were unleashed.

怀斯不再对任何人负责,他的野心得到了释放。

He traveled the East Coast raising money and spreading his vision of an American Reform Judaism.

他前往东海岸筹集资金并传播他对美国改革犹太教的愿景。

At Har Sinai in Baltimore, Wise promised a packed house that he would throw "bombshells" on orthodoxy.

在巴尔的摩的哈西奈半岛,怀斯向全场座无虚席的人承诺,他将向正统观念投掷“重磅炸弹”。

Rabbi ISAAC MAYER WISE: I am a reformer as much as our age requires because I am convinced that none can stop the stream of time.

拉比艾萨克·梅耶·怀斯:我是一个符合我们这个时代要求的改革者,因为我相信没有人能够阻止时间的流逝。

None can check the swift wheels of the age.

没有人能阻止时代的快速车轮。

Rabbi LANCE J.

拉比兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN: Wise believed that the direction in which Judaism was going and the direction that America was going in would ultimately converge, and that Reform Judaism would not only be the vanguard of Judaism, but it would be the religious vanguard of the United States itself.

苏斯曼:怀斯相信犹太教的前进方向和美国前进的方向最终会趋同,改革犹太教不仅会成为犹太教的先锋,而且会成为美国本身的宗教先锋。

NARRATOR

From the industrial cities of Buffalo and Detroit in the North, to small towns like Davenport in the Midwest and further South to Chattanooga, Wise traveled the country delivering the same call- America's Jews must unite.

从北部的工业城市布法罗和底特律,到中西部的达文波特等小镇,再到更南边的查塔努加,怀斯走遍全国,发出同样的呼吁——美国的犹太人必须团结起来。

Rabbi ISAAC MAYER WISE: The future greatness of Judaism in America depends upon the union of congregations.

拉比艾萨克·梅耶·怀斯:美国犹太教未来的伟大取决于教会的联合。

We must be united in form of worship in order to have no element of discord among us.

我们必须以敬拜的形式团结起来,以免我们之间出现不和的因素。

NARRATOR

In 1873, in Cincinnati, Wise founded the Union of American Hebrew Congregations, then started the Hebrew Union College to train America's first rabbis.

1873 年,怀斯在辛辛那提创立了美国希伯来会众联合会,然后创办了希伯来联合学院来培训美国第一批拉比。

Rabbi ISAAC MAYER WISE: Those who believe that the Jewish citizens of this country will creep back into narrow Jewry, wear a long beard, veil the face and cover the hair of his wife, are horribly mistaken.

拉比艾萨克·梅耶·怀斯:那些相信这个国家的犹太公民会重新回到狭隘的犹太民族、留着长胡子、用面纱遮住脸、遮住妻子的头发的人,是大错特错了。

That time has gone and happily will return no more.

那个时光已经过去了,幸福不会再回来了。

NARRATOR

But many Jews, however, had no wish in unify nor any interest in Wise's reforms, and their numbers were growing.

但许多犹太人既不希望统一,也不对怀斯的改革感兴趣,而且他们的人数还在不断增长。

By the 1870s, thousands of conservative Jews from Eastern Europe were arriving every month.

到 1870 年代,每个月都有数千名来自东欧的保守派犹太人抵达这里。

Traditional congregations were springing up, dedicated to bringing Jews back to the ancient faith.

传统教会如雨后春笋般涌现,致力于让犹太人回归古老的信仰。

JEFFREY S. GUROCK

Traditionalists say very simply that in America, we can make no real changes in the theological underpinnings or the basic ritual of Jewish tradition.

传统主义者非常简单地说,在美国,我们无法对犹太传统的神学基础或基本仪式做出真正的改变。

NARRATOR

They believed the laws laid out in the Torah, the core of the Jewish bible, were absolute and unchanging.

他们相信犹太圣经的核心《托拉》中规定的法律是绝对的、不变的。

Rabbi LANCE J.

拉比兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN: If you believe that the Torah was divinely revealed to Moses, then you have no choice but to obey those commandments, those laws, those mitzvot.

苏斯曼:如果你相信《托拉》是神圣地启示给摩西的,那么你别无选择,只能遵守那些诫命、那些法律、那些戒律。

There's no room for negotiation.

没有任何商量的余地。

NARRATOR

But Wise's ideas had caught on.

但怀斯的想法已经流行起来。

By 1880, 90 percent of America's synagogues had adopted Reform Judaism.

到 1880 年,美国 90% 的犹太教堂都接受了改革犹太教。

On July 11, 1883, the moment he had dreamed of since coming to America arrived.

1883年7月11日,他来到美国以来一直梦想的时刻到来了。

The aging leader presided over the ordination of his college's first class of rabbis.

这位年迈的领袖主持了学院第一届拉比的任命仪式。

RABBI LANCE J.

拉比·兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN, Historian: For decades, he had struggled to unite congregations, to create a rabbinic school.

苏斯曼,历史学家:几十年来,他一直在努力团结会众,创建一所拉比学校。

Now it's all working, and this is the great crowning moment.

现在一切都在进行,这是伟大的胜利时刻。

NARRATOR

After the ordination, Wise hosted a dinner at Highland House, Cincinnati's most exclusive restaurant.

授圣仪式后,怀斯在辛辛那提最高档的餐厅 Highland House 举办了晚宴。

Two hundred guests attended, including distinguished rabbis and scholars from across the country.

出席的嘉宾有 200 名,其中包括来自全国各地的杰出拉比和学者。

HASIA R. DINER

The first thing that the waiters bring out were littleneck clams.

服务员端上来的第一道菜是小蛤。

Rabbi LANCE J.

拉比兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN: Littleneck clams, an American delicacy.

苏斯曼:小颈蛤,美国美食。

JEFFREY S. GUROCK

Clams are shellfish.

蛤蜊是贝类。

Shellfish is biblically prohibited in the Torah.

《托拉》中圣经禁止食用贝类。

Rabbi LANCE J.

拉比兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN: And then from there, they begin to roll out other things- shrimp-

苏斯曼:然后从那里开始,他们开始推出其他东西——虾——

JEFFREY S. GUROCK

Shrimp salad, same story.

虾沙拉,同样的故事。

Rabbi LANCE J.

拉比兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN: -beef that is in a cream sauce-

SUSSMAN:-奶油酱牛肉-

JEFFREY S. GUROCK

Milk and meat products together.

牛奶和肉制品在一起。

Rabbi LANCE J.

拉比兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN: -and lobster bisque.

苏斯曼:-还有龙虾浓汤。

HASIA R. DINER

From the start of the meal to the end, a kind of observant Jew's nightmare.

从用餐开始到结束,这是细心的犹太人的噩梦。

JEFFREY S. GUROCK

If you believe in those biblical traditions, it's God-given that there's certain animals you should not eat.

如果您相信这些圣经传统,那么上帝就规定有些动物是您不应该吃的。

And now they're serving us these foods.

现在他们为我们提供这些食物。

Very simple.

很简单。

This dinner is saying, "We have no concern about the biblical teaching."

这次晚餐是在说:“我们不关心圣经的教导。”

HASIA R. DINER

They had to take it as a slap in the face to traditional Judaism.

他们不得不将其视为对传统犹太教的一记耳光。

This man, who claimed to have given ordination to people who will be teachers and rabbis in America- it would have been a spit in the face.

这个人声称已经任命了那些将在美国担任教师和拉比的人,这可能会被人吐口水。

NARRATOR

The Jewish Press called it the "Trefa Banquet," after the Hebrew word for un-kosher.

犹太报刊称其为“Trefa 宴会”,希伯来语中的“不洁食”一词。

"Princes and emperors have respected the laws which the strictly ritualistic Jew has to obey," observed one editorial, "and the liberal Israelites of Cincinnati could not do the same?"

一篇社论指出:“王子和皇帝都尊重严格仪式化的犹太人必须遵守的法律,而辛辛那提的自由派以色列人就不能这样做吗?”

Rabbi LANCE J.

拉比兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN: Those who opposed Wise and those who opposed Reform Judaism saw this as their moment, as a rallying call that Wise's union and Wise's college could not represent their religious goals.

苏斯曼:那些反对怀斯和反对改革犹太教的人认为这是他们的时刻,这是一个集会号召,表明怀斯的工会和怀斯的学院不能代表他们的宗教目标。

JONATHAN D. SARNA

Wise's dream of union, of Jews coming together under one synagogue organization, with one seminary, that dream is shattered.

怀斯的联盟梦想,即犹太人在一个犹太教堂组织和一所神学院下聚集在一起的梦想破灭了。

NARRATOR

Wise refused to apologize.

怀斯拒绝道歉。

His college, his practices, were the future.

他的大学,他的实践,就是未来。

Rabbi ISAAC MAYER WISE: I do not call it a sin to eat that which civilized people generally eat.

拉比艾萨克·梅耶·怀斯:我不认为吃文明人通常吃的东西是罪过。

There is no reference to food in the Ten Commandments.

十诫中没有提到食物。

In religion only we are Jews.

只有在宗教上我们才是犹太人。

In all other respects, we are American citizens.

在所有其他方面,我们都是美国公民。

Rabbi LANCE J.

拉比兰斯·J.

SUSSMAN: He was a fighter.

苏斯曼:他是一名战士。

He didn't take criticism.

他不接受批评。

"That's what you're going to criticize me about?

“你就为了这个来批评我?

I created a national structure for Judaism in this country.

我在这个国家创建了犹太教国家结构。

I have ordained competent rabbis.

我任命了有能力的拉比。

You're worried about shrimp?"

你担心虾吗?”

NARRATOR

After Wise's banquet, the split within American Judaism only widened.

怀斯的宴会之后,美国犹太教内部的分歧进一步扩大。

Reformers went one way, traditionalists another.

改革者走了一条路,传统主义者走了另一条路。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER, Professor of American Religious History: The attempt to have a unified Judaism as expressed in Reform Judaism ultimately collapses.

兰德尔·巴尔默,美国宗教史教授:改革犹太教所表达的建立统一犹太教的尝试最终失败了。

There's something about the American context that seems to encourage particular expressions of the faith, rather than any one unified expression of the faith.

美国的环境似乎鼓励特定的信仰表达,而不是任何一种统一的信仰表达。

NARRATOR

America was modernizing, and all its religions would now have to confront a changing world.

美国正在走向现代化,其所有宗教现在都必须面对不断变化的世界。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY, Historian: This conflict within Judaism - "Are we going to embrace modernity or are we going to reject modernity?" - that's happening in every religious group in America.

历史学家辛西娅·林恩·莱尔利:犹太教内部的冲突——“我们是要拥抱现代性还是要拒绝现代性?” - 这种情况发生在美国的每个宗教团体中。

They're all struggling with that question.

他们都在为这个问题而苦苦挣扎。

Rev.

牧师。

CHARLES AUGUSTUS BRIGGS: When a new light dawns from above, most men cling to the old and cannot believe any new light possible.

查尔斯·奥古斯都·布里格斯:当新的曙光从天而降时,大多数人都坚持旧的观念,不相信任何新的曙光是可能的。

But the world needs new views of the truth.

但世界需要对真相有新的看法。

NARRATOR

In 1859, Charles Darwin's The Origin of Species shook old truths to the core.

1859 年,查尔斯·达尔文 (Charles Darwin) 的《物种起源》从根本上动摇了古老的真理。

An intense debate renewed between reason and belief, and the center of the debate was in Berlin.

理性与信仰之间再次展开激烈的争论,争论的中心在柏林。

And that is where Charles Augustus Briggs, a young Presbyterian minister from New York, had felt compelled to come.

这就是来自纽约的年轻长老会牧师查尔斯·奥古斯都·布里格斯 (Charles Augustus Briggs) 感到有必要来到的地方。

MARK S.

马克·S。

MASSA, S.J., Theologian, Boston College: He is somebody who's gifted intellectually and realizes that he wants to go to the place where, intellectually, it was all happening.

马萨,S.J.,波士顿学院神学家:他是一个具有智力天赋的人,并意识到他想去一个在智力上发生这一切的地方。

And that place is Germany.

那个地方就是德国。

NARRATOR

Paleontologists and geologists had recently uncovered fossil records that showed life on earth was hundreds of millions of years old.

古生物学家和地质学家最近发现的化石记录表明,地球上的生命已有数亿年的历史。

Astronomers had conceptualized the creation of galaxies from swirling gasses.

天文学家提出了由旋转气体形成星系的概念。

And then there was Darwin.

然后是达尔文。

Published just seven years before Briggs arrived in Germany, Darwin's theory of evolution argued that life evolved through natural selection, not created by God as told in the Bible.

达尔文的进化论在布里格斯抵达德国前七年发表,认为生命是通过自然选择进化的,而不是圣经中所说的由上帝创造。

Like most evangelicals, Briggs had been taught that the Bible contained the literal word of God.

像大多数福音派人士一样,布里格斯被教导说圣经包含上帝的字面意思。

MARK S. MASSA

Evangelical Protestants placed an extraordinary importance on what they called the perspicacity of Scripture- that is, that Scripture is self-evident, that the Bible means what it says and says what it means, and everyone, from the most illiterate farmer to the most literate college professor, could pick up the Bible and have God's word addressed to them directly.

福音派新教徒非常重视他们所说的圣经的洞察力——也就是说,圣经是不言而喻的,圣经的意思就是它所说的,并且所说的就是它的意思,每个人,从最不识字的农民到最有文化的大学教授,都可以拿起圣经,直接听上帝的话。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Scientists go, "Wait a minute.

科学家们说:“等一下。

There's things that happen in the Bible that violate natural law, when time stops, when Jonah is swallowed by the whale." And a number of scientists say, "These things just couldn't have happened the way they're described in the Bible."

圣经中发生的一些事情违反了自然法则,比如时间停止,乔纳被鲸鱼吞下。”许多科学家说:“这些事情不可能像圣经中描述的那样发生。”

NARRATOR

For nearly 2,000 years, Christians had accepted that Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible.

近 2000 年来,基督徒一直接受摩西写了圣经的前五本书。

Now scholars pointed out that Moses couldn't have been the author.

现在学者们指出摩西不可能是作者。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

The first five books were supposedly written by Moses, but Moses makes reference to his death.

据说前五本书是摩西写的,但摩西提到了他的死。

So if Moses didn't write those first five books, who did?

那么,如果前五本书不是摩西写的,那么是谁写的呢?

NARRATOR

And there were other inconsistencies.

还有其他不一致之处。

There were two accounts of God's creation of the world.

关于上帝创造世界有两种说法。

MARK S. MASSA

And the first account, which is in the first chapter of Genesis, took seven days, and the second account took one day.

第一个记载是在创世记第一章,用了七天,第二个记载用了一天。

NARRATOR

Had David actually written the Psalms?

诗篇真的是大卫写的吗?

MARK S. MASSA

David couldn't have written the Psalms because this Hebrew word didn't exist when David was writing the psalms, so David couldn't have used this word.

大卫不可能写诗篇,因为当大卫写诗篇时这个希伯来词还不存在,所以大卫不可能使用这个词。

NARRATOR

Looking beyond these inconsistencies, Briggs probed more deeply into the text of the Bible.

超越这些不一致之处,布里格斯更深入地探讨了圣经的文本。

If, for instance, Jonah was not swallowed whole by a whale, what did God mean to teach with this story?

例如,如果约拿没有被鲸鱼整个吞下,那么上帝通过这个故事想教导什么?

Briggs still fervently believed the Bible was divinely inspired, but now he would argue the Bible and scientific reason could illuminate each other.

布里格斯仍然坚信《圣经》是神圣默示的,但现在他认为《圣经》和科学理性可以相互阐明。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Every word may not have come from God himself.

并非每句话都来自上帝本人。

That doesn't create a problem.

这不会造成问题。

That means I'm closer to the Truth, with a capital T, that God wanted me to get at, rather than farther away.

这意味着我更接近上帝希望我到达的真理,而不是更远。

So if you want to have a better understanding of God, then you have to incorporate these new truths.

因此,如果你想更好地了解上帝,那么你必须融入这些新真理。

Rev.

牧师。

CHARLES AUGUSTUS BRIGGS: I feel a different man from what I was a few months ago.

查尔斯·奥古斯都·布里格斯:我感觉自己与几个月前不同了。

The Bible is lit up with a new light.

圣经被新的光照亮了。

NARRATOR

Just as Isaac Mayer Wise had been inspired by what he had learned in Europe, so Charles Briggs arrived back in New York inflamed by the ideas he had encountered in Berlin.

正如艾萨克·梅耶·怀斯 (Isaac Mayer Wise) 受到他在欧洲学到的东西的启发一样,查尔斯·布里格斯 (Charles Briggs) 回到纽约后,也因他在柏林遇到的想法而激动不已。

But Briggs proceeded cautiously.

但布里格斯谨慎行事。

MARK S. MASSA

Like many very, very smart and talented people, Charles Briggs operated on two levels.

像许多非常非常聪明和有才华的人一样,查尔斯·布里格斯在两个层面上运作。

Above the neck, I think he was deeply committed to spreading the new ideas about the Bible.

在脖子以上,我认为他坚定地致力于传播有关圣经的新思想。

Below the neck, in his heart, I think he remained a fairly conservative evangelical Protestant.

我认为,在他的脖子以下,在他的心里,他仍然是一个相当保守的福音派新教徒。

NARRATOR

He realized little had changed in America while he had been away.

他意识到,在他离开期间,美国几乎没有发生什么变化。

Most Protestants remained certain the Bible was the literal word of God.

大多数新教徒仍然确信《圣经》是上帝的字面意思。

As a minister in New Jersey, he seldom spoke out about what he had learned.

作为新泽西州的一名部长,他很少说出自己所了解到的情况。

And when he joined the faculty at Union Theological Seminary in New York, he shared his ideas only with a close circle of colleagues.

当他加入纽约协和神学院任教时,他只与亲密的同事圈子分享自己的想法。

But Briggs grew increasingly frustrated by traditional ways of thinking.

但布里格斯对传统思维方式越来越感到沮丧。

Rev.

牧师。

CHARLES AUGUSTUS BRIGGS: The Bible has been treated as if it were a baby, to be wrapped in swaddling clothes, nursed, and carefully guarded lest it should be injured by heretics and skeptics.

查尔斯·奥古斯都·布里格斯:《圣经》一直被视为一个婴儿,被包裹在襁褓中,被精心护理,以免被异端和怀疑论者伤害。

NARRATOR

In January 1891, when he was appointed chair of the new Department of Biblical Theology and invited to give a public speech, Briggs decided his moment had arrived.

1891 年 1 月,当布里格斯被任命为新的圣经神学系主任并受邀发表公开演讲时,他认为自己的时刻已经到来。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER, Barnard College, Columbia University: Briggs wanted to be intellectually honest.

兰德尔·巴尔默(Randall Balmer),哥伦比亚大学巴纳德学院:布里格斯希望在智力上保持诚实。

He wanted to talk about these new and big ideas that he had encountered and had become part of his understanding of the faith.

他想谈谈他所遇到的这些新的、伟大的想法,这些想法已经成为他对信仰理解的一部分。

And in the end, what he decides is to cut loose.

最后,他决定摆脱束缚。

Rev.

牧师。

CHARLES AUGUSTUS BRIGGS: So far as I can see, there are errors in the Scriptures that no one has been able to explain away.

查尔斯·奥古斯都·布里格斯:据我所知,圣经中存在一些无人能够解释的错误。

Men cannot shut their eyes to truth and fact.

人们不能对真理和事实视而不见。

MARK S. MASSA

He laid out the idea that the Bible, like everything else, evolved and changed.

他提出了这样的观点:《圣经》像其他一切事物一样,不断演变和变化。

The Bible had to be approached in parts, and interpreted to be understood what it meant.

圣经必须分部分解读,并加以解释才能理解其含义。

Rev.

牧师。

CHARLES AUGUSTUS BRIGGS: Let the light shine higher and higher, the bright, clear light of day.

查尔斯·奥古斯都·布里格斯:让光越来越高,明亮、清晰的白昼之光。

Truth fears no light.

真理不惧光明。

Light chases error away.

光驱赶错误。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Briggs thought he was giving a calm, rational speech that would be persuasive to people, that would set out the case for why the traditional interpretation and reading of the Bible was not accurate, and how we had to make it more accurate.

布里格斯认为他正在发表冷静、理性的演讲,对人们有说服力,可以阐明为什么传统的圣经解释和阅读不准确,以及我们如何使其更加准确。

Rev.

牧师。

CHARLES AUGUSTUS BRIGGS: True orthodoxy seeks the full blaze of the noontide sun.

查尔斯·奥古斯都·布里格斯:真正的正统观念寻求的是正午阳光的灿烂光芒。

In the light of such a day, the unity of Christendom will be gained.

在这一天到来之际,基督教世界将会实现团结。

NARRATOR

When Briggs was finished, only his students applauded.

当布里格斯结束时,只有他的学生鼓掌。

Everyone else sat in silence.

其他人都沉默地坐着。

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: In some ways, what was troubling about the speech for people was the content.

斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗,波士顿大学宗教学教授:从某些方面来说,演讲令人不安的是演讲的内容。

But I think in other ways, it was the tone.

但我认为从其他方面来说,这就是基调。

It wasn't that he was looking at the Bible and saying, "I have this problem that," you know, "I don't think Moses really wrote the five books.

他并不是看着圣经说,“我有一个问题,”你知道,“我不认为摩西真的写了这五本书。

I don't know what to do about that." It was more like, "Isn't this great?

我不知道该怎么办。”更像是,“这不是很棒吗?

Like we're learning more and more about the Bible."

就像我们对圣经的了解越来越多一样。”

NARRATOR

Briggs had set off an ecclesiastical bomb.

布里格斯引爆了一枚教会炸弹。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Anybody in America who cares about the Bible - which is to say, virtually everyone - is interested in this question.

在美国,任何关心圣经的人——也就是说,几乎每个人——都对这个问题感兴趣。

Is it necessary for Christians to believe that every sentence, every word in the Bible is true, or can we just believe that the Bible is divinely inspired?

基督徒是否必须相信圣经中的每一句话、每一个字都是真实的,或者我们可以只相信圣经是神所默示的吗?

NARRATOR

As far as the leaders of the Presbyterian Church were concerned, the Bible was God's word.

对于长老会的领袖来说,圣经就是上帝的话语。

Any other interpretation violated the core tenets of their faith.

任何其他解释都违反了他们信仰的核心原则。

They charged Briggs with heresy.

他们指控布里格斯为异端邪说。

"The Christian Church," wrote one critic, "has no room for the likes of men who make out that the Holy Bible is full of errors."

一位批评家写道:“基督教会容不下那些认为圣经充满错误的人。”

For two years, the Presbyterian hierarchy wrangled over Briggs's future in a series of highly publicized trials.

两年来,长老会高层在一系列广为人知的审判中就布里格斯的未来争论不休。

Finally, in May 1893, the church ruled in Briggs's case.

最终,1893 年 5 月,教会对布里格斯的案件做出了裁决。

GENERAL ASSEMBLY

This General Assembly finds that Charles A.

本次大会发现 Charles A.

Briggs has uttered, taught and propagated views in violation of his ordination vow.

布里格斯发表、教导和传播的观点违反了他的任命誓言。

This General Assembly does hereby suspend Charles A Briggs.

本大会特此暂停查尔斯·A·布里格斯 (Charles A Briggs) 的职务。

NARRATOR

Briggs lost his job, but he had started a revolution among American Protestants.

布里格斯失去了工作,但他在美国新教徒中发起了一场革命。

"Probably no man," wrote The New York Times, "is doing more than Briggs is for the new construction of Christianity."

《纽约时报》写道:“可能没有人比布里格斯为基督教的新建设所做的贡献更多。”

Briggs's trial was one in a series of upheavals within American churches.

布里格斯的审判是美国教会内一系列动荡中的一个。

The theologian Borden Bowne was charged with showing a "lax view of Scripture" and put on trial by the Methodists.

神学家博登·鲍恩被指控表现出“对圣经的松懈看法”,并受到卫理公会的审判。

When Reverend Algernon Crapsey denied the Virgin birth, the Episcopalians convicted him of heresy.

当阿尔杰农·克拉普西牧师否认童贞女所生时,圣公会信徒判定他为异端。

Far from stopping new ideas from taking hold, the heresy trials only increased interest in them.

异端审判非但没有阻止新思想的流行,反而增加了人们对它们的兴趣。

MARK S. MASSA

People had grown up believing that the Bible meant what it said and said what it meant, and suddenly, you had preachers and scholars from your own denomination saying, "Not so."

人们在成长过程中一直相信《圣经》的意思就是它所说的,也说了它的意思,突然间,你们自己教派的传教士和学者说:“不是这样的。”

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

A number of Christians say, "Finally!

许多基督徒说:“终于!

Whew!

哇!

We do not have to accept the entire Bible as a book that has no errors in it.

我们不必接受整本圣经是一本没有错误的书。

When our brain tells us that this story conflicts with this story, we can say, `Yes, the Bible is an imperfect document.' " These Christians feel liberated by embracing the modern.

当我们的大脑告诉我们这个故事与这个故事相冲突时,我们可以说:“是的,圣经是一部不完美的文献。” “这些基督徒因拥抱现代而感到解放。

"We don't have to leave reason at the door when we go to worship."

“当我们去礼拜时,不必把理性留在门口。”

NARRATOR

But for many Protestants, this new interpretation of the Bible threatened the nation's special relationship with God.

但对于许多新教徒来说,这种对圣经的新解释威胁到了国家与上帝的特殊关系。

Evangelical America would fight back.

美国福音派将会反击。

William Jennings Bryan, a two-term congressman from Nebraska, believed that Protestant religion must be returned to the center of American life.

来自内布拉斯加州的两届国会议员威廉·詹宁斯·布莱恩认为,新教必须回归美国生活的中心。

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

I would rather speak on religion than on politics.

我更愿意谈论宗教而不是政治。

I offer no apology for speaking upon a religious theme, for it is the most universal of themes.

我不会为谈论宗教主题而道歉,因为它是最普遍的主题。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Bryan is the most radical Christian politician of the late 19th century.

布莱恩是 19 世纪末最激进的基督教政治家。

I don't think anybody else, even up to our own time, has used the Bible and the kind of morality that he saw in the Bible as a basis for governing.

我认为,即使到了我们这个时代,也没有任何人使用《圣经》和他在《圣经》中所看到的道德作为治理的基础。

NARRATOR

Bryan hearkened back to a different America, the mostly rural America of his Illinois youth.

布莱恩回想起了一个不同的美国,他年轻时在伊利诺伊州度过的大部分是乡村的美国。

MICHAEL KAZIN, Historian, Georgetown University: In religious terms, he was evangelical and his theology was pretty conservative.

迈克尔·卡津(MICHAEL KAZIN),乔治敦大学历史学家:从宗教角度来说,他是福音派,他的神学相当保守。

He did believe that the Bible was literal truth.

他确实相信圣经是字面真理。

RANDALL M.

兰德尔·M。

MILLER, Historian, St. Joseph's University: Bryan was an unabashed believer in the authority of the Bible.

米勒,圣约瑟夫大学历史学家:布莱恩毫不掩饰地相信圣经的权威。

God acted in history, and God had a purpose in history that America had a purpose in history, and it was to be God's instrument.

上帝在历史中行事,上帝在历史上有一个目的,美国在历史上也有一个目的,它就是成为上帝的工具。

NARRATOR

Bryan looked on in despair at what was happening to his country.

布莱恩绝望地看着他的国家正在发生的事情。

By the 1890s, millions of Americans had migrated from farms and small towns to teeming cities.

到 1890 年代,数百万美国人从农场和小镇迁移到拥挤的城市。

RANDALL M. MILLER

The pace of work is different.

工作节奏不同。

The organization is going to be much more bureaucratic, much more impersonal.

该组织将变得更加官僚化、更加缺乏人情味。

That sense of community isn't going to exist there.

那种社区意识在那里不会存在。

NARRATOR

Between 1880 and 1900, nearly 10 million immigrants arrived in the United States.

1880年至1900年间,近1000万移民抵达美国。

RANDALL M. MILLER

Even the workers themselves are going to be different They're not going to be of the same religious background, the same ethnic background.

甚至工人本身也会有所不同,他们不会有相同的宗教背景,相同的种族背景。

NARRATOR

Slums began to overflow.

贫民窟开始泛滥。

By the turn of the century, one in eight Americans lived in poverty.

到世纪之交,八分之一的美国人生活在贫困之中。

RANDALL M. MILLER

Evangelical Protestants could look out and see a world that was rapidly changing, that needed explanation.

福音派新教徒可以放眼望去,看到一个正在迅速变化、需要解释的世界。

There was a great introspection, and one could even say a kind of self-doubt, that was emerging.

一种强烈的反省,甚至可以说是一种自我怀疑正在出现。

Are they losing their dominance, their place in what they thought was their special charge, this chosen nation, this redeemer nation?

他们是否正在失去他们的统治地位,失去他们在他们认为是他们的特殊职责、这个被选中的国家、这个救赎者国家中的地位?

NARRATOR

And William Jennings Bryan would lead the fight to restore America as a nation with a special relationship to God.

威廉·詹宁斯·布莱恩将领导这场斗争,以恢复美国作为一个与上帝有特殊关系的国家的地位。

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

Jesus gave a new definition to love.

耶稣给了爱一个新的定义。

His love was as wide as the sea.

他的爱像大海一样宽广。

Its limits were so far-flung that even an enemy could not travel beyond its bounds.

它的界限如此遥远,即使是敌人也无法超越它的界限。

NARRATOR

In 1896, Bryan became the Democratic Party's candidate for president.

1896年,布莱恩成为民主党总统候选人。

Criss-crossing the country, he campaigned furiously, accusing bankers and industrialists of controlling the government for their own interests, advocating for the farmer, the miner, the common man.

他走遍全国,激烈地开展竞选活动,指责银行家和实业家为了自己的利益而控制政府,为农民、矿工和普通人辩护。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

His faith shaped the way he viewed policy.

他的信仰塑造了他看待政策的方式。

You lift up the weak.

你扶起弱者。

You take care of the oppressed.

你照顾受压迫的人。

You cherish the poor.

你珍惜穷人。

NARRATOR

Bryan lost the election but gained a national reputation.

布莱恩输掉了选举,但赢得了全国声誉。

He became a professional speaker, drawing huge crowds of adoring fans wherever he went.

他成为了一名专业演讲家,所到之处都吸引了大批崇拜者。

MICHAEL KAZIN

He was often compared to a good preacher, using metaphors from the Bible, quoting directly from the King James Bible, and wove those lines into political messages.

他经常被比作一位优秀的传教士,使用圣经中的隐喻,直接引用英皇钦定版圣经,并将这些台词编织成政治信息。

He had a really loyal following among evangelical Protestants, who saw him very much as their standard bearer, bringing to politics a much more Christian outlook.

他在福音派新教徒中拥有一批非常忠实的追随者,他们将他视为他们的旗手,为政治带来了更加基督教化的观点。

NARRATOR

Bryan's message struck a chord with a growing number of Americans unhappy with the direction their country was headed.

布莱恩的言论引起了越来越多对国家发展方向不满的美国人的共鸣。

To some, the situation was so grave that the Apocalypse, as described in the book of Revelation, seemed close at hand.

对一些人来说,形势如此严峻,启示录中所描述的世界末日似乎近在眼前。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

There's a number of Protestants who are thinking that America's covenant relationship with God is in peril.

有许多新教徒认为美国与上帝的圣约关系正处于危险之中。

We're not progressing towards some Christian perfected state, that we're regressing, and that God will have to intervene.

我们并没有朝着基督教的完美状态前进,我们正在倒退,上帝将不得不进行干预。

NARRATOR

In 1914, the End Days seemed to have arrived in the form of the world's first modern war.

1914 年,世界末日似乎以世界上第一次现代战争的形式到来。

Never before had so many been killed by human innovation and technology.

此前从未有如此多的人被人类创新和技术杀害。

Many believed the forces of modernity were to blame.

许多人认为现代性的力量是罪魁祸首。

RANDALL M. MILLER

From the traditionalist point of view, this war was a demonstration of all that had gone wrong, and a warning because God, they believed, gives warnings.

从传统主义者的角度来看,这场战争是所有错误的证明,也是一个警告,因为他们相信上帝会发出警告。

He visits his wrath upon the unrepentant people.

他向那些不悔改的人发怒。

The world seemed to be coming apart.

世界似乎正在​​分崩离析。

How can we pull these things all back together?

我们怎样才能把这些东西全部拉回来呢?

NARRATOR

Some conservative Christians joined together under a new banner: America must be brought back into the embrace of God through a literal reading of the Bible.

一些保守的基督徒在新的旗帜下联合起来:必须通过逐字阅读圣经将美国带回上帝的怀抱。

They called themselves fundamentalists.

他们称自己为原教旨主义者。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

They take that name from this series of books called The Fundamentals.

他们的名字取自名为“基础知识”的系列书籍。

Fundamentalists believe that the Bible is the literal word of God and it has no errors in it.

原教旨主义者相信圣经是上帝的字面意思,没有错误。

They believe in the virgin birth.

他们相信童女所生。

They believe in Jesus' miracles.

他们相信耶稣所行的神迹。

They believe that Christ died on the cross for all of humanity's sins.

他们相信基督为人类所有的罪孽死在十字架上。

MICHAEL KAZIN

More and more conservative Protestants are beginning to call themselves fundamentalists, based themselves on a general sense that if we give away the truth of the Bible, we are giving away what's most important about being Christian.

越来越多的保守新教徒开始称自己为原教旨主义者,他们的普遍感觉是,如果我们放弃了圣经的真理,我们就放弃了作为基督徒最重要的东西。

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

Man must be brought back to God, to a belief in the Bible as the Word of God, and to a love of Christ as the Son of God.

人必须被带回上帝身边,相信圣经是上帝的话语,并爱基督作为上帝的儿子。

NARRATOR

In 1921, fundamentalists secured a powerful new ally.

1921 年,原教旨主义者获得了一个强大的新盟友。

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion: Bryan wants to defend traditional Christianity.

斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗,宗教教授:布莱恩想捍卫传统基督教。

He wants to defend fundamentalism against the onslaught of modernity because he believes that if the modernists win in the fundamentalist-modernist controversy that Christianity is going to go under, and then American society will go under with it.

他想捍卫原教旨主义免受现代性的冲击,因为他相信,如果现代主义者在原教旨主义与现代主义的争论中获胜,基督教就会陷入困境,那么美国社会也会随之崩溃。

NARRATOR

Nothing posed a greater threat, Bryan and the fundamentalists believed, than Darwin's theory of evolution, which undermined the idea that humans were God's special creation.

布莱恩和原教旨主义者认为,没有什么比达尔文的进化论构成更大的威胁了,它破坏了人类是上帝特殊创造的观念。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Darwin represents a really important challenge because Darwin says we can make sense of the most basic piece of human existence, like where did we come from, without any recourse to God.

达尔文代表了一个非常重要的挑战,因为达尔文说我们可以理解人类存在的最基本部分,比如我们从哪里来,而无需求助于上帝。

HASIA R.

哈西亚·R。

DINER, New York University: A core religious belief was that human beings were the crown of creation.

晚餐,纽约大学:核心宗教信仰是人类是造物之冠。

And in very American terms, the American was also the crown of creation.

从非常美国的角度来说,美国人也是创造之王。

But now, reading these accounts of Darwin, one couldn't say that any longer.

但现在,读到达尔文的这些记述,人们就不能再这么说了。

Darwinism undermined the notion of what it means to be an American.

达尔文主义破坏了作为美国人意味着什么的概念。

NARRATOR

With Bryan leading the charge, fundamentalists launched a nationwide campaign to ban the teaching of evolution in America's schools.

在布莱恩的带领下,原教旨主义者发起了一场全国性的运动,禁止在美国学校教授进化论。

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

I object to Darwinian theory because I fear we shall lose the consciousness of God's presence in our daily life if we must accept the theory that through all the ages, no spiritual force has touched the life of man.

我反对达尔文的理论,因为我担心,如果我们必须接受这样的理论:自古以来,没有任何精神力量触及人类的生活,我们就会失去上帝在日常生活中存在的意识。

NARRATOR

The opening battle between fundamentalists and liberal Christians would take place in Tennessee in July 1925.

原教旨主义者和自由派基督徒之间的揭幕战将于 1925 年 7 月在田纳西州打响。

The small town of Dayton was the backdrop for what reporters dubbed the "trial of the century."

代顿小镇是记者称之为“世纪审判”的背景。

RADIO ANNOUNCER

For the next few weeks, the forces of science will be arrayed against the performance of religious fundamentalism.

在接下来的几周里,科学的力量将联合起来对抗宗教原教旨主义的表现。

NARRATOR

Two months earlier, a young biology teacher named John Scopes had been arrested after defying a new state law that banned Darwin from the classroom.

两个月前,一位名叫约翰·斯科普斯的年轻生物老师因违反禁止达尔文进入课堂的新州法律而被捕。

RADIO ANNOUNCER

To Dayton to conduct the prosecution came he of the silver tongue, William Jennings Bryan, three times-

能说会道的威廉·詹宁斯·布莱恩曾三次到代顿进行起诉——

NARRATOR

Bryan came to Dayton to prosecute Scopes and, he hoped, to defeat Darwinism once and for all.

布莱恩来到代顿起诉斯科普斯,他希望一劳永逸地击败达尔文主义。

RADIO ANNOUNCER

Opposing Bryan before the awed local gentry was America's most dazzling criminal lawyer, Clarence Darrow.

在敬畏的当地贵族面前反对布莱恩的是美国最耀眼的刑事律师克拉伦斯·达罗。

NARRATOR

Clarence Darrow, a lawyer from Chicago famous for his advocacy of free speech and workers' rights, agreed to defend Scopes.

克拉伦斯·达罗是一位来自芝加哥的律师,以倡导言论自由和工人权利而闻名,他同意为斯科普斯辩护。

EDWARD J.

爱德华·J.

LARSON, Historian, Pepperdine University: He opposed the idea of fundamentalist religious law-making, basing modern laws on old scripture.

拉尔森,佩珀代因大学历史学家:他反对原教旨主义宗教立法的想法,将现代法律建立在古老的圣经之上。

And he viewed the Scopes trial as a prime opportunity, to expose the folly of doing so, and therefore undermine religious law-making.

他认为斯科普斯审判是一个绝佳的机会,可以揭露这样做的愚蠢行为,从而破坏宗教立法。

NARRATOR

And Darrow had the support of many liberal Christians, who saw nothing incompatible between Darwinism and religion.

达罗得到了许多自由派基督徒的支持,他们认为达尔文主义和宗教之间没有任何不相容的地方。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Science is something they can embrace because science shows us how brilliant God was, and how amazing this world he made is.

科学是他们可以拥抱的东西,因为科学向我们展示了上帝是多么的辉煌,以及他创造的这个世界是多么的神奇。

So they're not threatened by Darwin.

所以他们没有受到达尔文的威胁。

Liberal Christians feel like America's going to be set back.

自由派基督徒感觉美国将会遭遇挫折。

You know, the rest of the world is moving forward.

你知道,世界其他地区正在向前发展。

Why should American children not have the received wisdom of science?

为什么美国孩子不应该拥有公认的科学智慧?

NARRATOR

The Rhea County Courthouse in Dayton would be where Darrow would put fundamentalist Christianity on trial.

达罗将在代顿的雷亚县法院对原教旨主义基督教进行审判。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

If Darrow can bring Bryan down, he can make significant inroads into knocking down fundamentalism.

如果达罗能够打倒布莱恩,他就能在推翻原教旨主义方面取得重大进展。

NARRATOR

People from across the country streamed into town to be part of what became known as the "Monkey Trial." Big city reporters descended from New York, Chicago and Baltimore.

来自全国各地的人们涌入城镇,参加后来被称为“猴子审判”的活动。大城市的记者从纽约、芝加哥和巴尔的摩赶来。

Radio station WGN would broadcast the proceedings live nationwide.

WGN 广播电台将在全国现场直播整个过程。

RADIO ANNOUNCER

As the world waited, hundreds jammed the courtroom to see if man's intelligence and belief could be controlled by law.

当全世界都在等待时,数百人挤满了法庭,看看人的智力和信仰是否可以受到法律的控制。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER, Barnard College, Columbia University: All of America is transfixed by this confrontation.

兰德尔·巴尔默(Randall Balmer),哥伦比亚大学巴纳德学院:整个美国都被这场对抗惊呆了。

What was at stake was, for many people, the integrity of the Bible.

对许多人来说,问题在于圣经的完整性。

RADIO ANNOUNCER

Calico and coveralls packed the courtroom to protect the faith against the foreigners and find out what this new evolution was all about.

法庭上挤满了印花布和工作服,以保护信仰免受外国人的侵害,并找出这一新演变的全部内容。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The question is about authority.

问题在于权威。

And the question is whether religion, Bible, God have authority, or whether reason, humans, science have authority.

问题是宗教、圣经、上帝是否有权威,或者理性、人类、科学是否有权威。

NARRATOR

As was customary in Tennessee courtrooms, a local preacher opened the trial with a prayer.

按照田纳西州法庭的惯例,当地传教士以祈祷开始审判。

"We come this morning, our Divine Father," the preacher intoned, "that we may seek from thee that wisdom to so transact the business of this court." Every day, there would be a new prayer.

“我们的圣父,我们今天早上来到这里,”传教士吟诵道,“以便我们可以向您寻求智慧来处理法庭的事务。”每天都会有新的祈祷。

Every day, Clarence Darrow would object.

克拉伦斯·达罗每天都会提出反对。

Every day, the judge overruled him.

每天,法官都会驳回他的裁决。

When Darrow moved to have the indictment against Scopes thrown out, declaring that religious liberty must be defended, the judge rejected the motion.

当达罗提出撤销对斯科普斯的起诉书并宣称必须捍卫宗教自由时,法官驳回了这一动议。

Darrow's strategy centered on calling expert witnesses who could testify on the meaning of evolution and its compatibility with the creation story in the Bible.

达罗的策略集中在召集专家证人,他们可以证明进化论的意义及其与圣经中创世故事的兼容性。

MICHAEL KAZIN

Darrow had wanted to put a whole array of scientists on the stand to testify about Darwinism, about evolution- a lot of whom, by the way, were liberal Christians.

达罗曾想让一大批科学家出庭作证,为达尔文主义和进化论作证——顺便说一句,其中很多人都是自由派基督徒。

They didn't want agnostic, atheist scientists.

他们不需要不可知论、无神论的科学家。

They wanted Christian scientists who would say you could be a Christian and believe in evolution at the same time.

他们想要基督教科学家,他们会说你可以成为一名基督徒,同时相信进化论。

NARRATOR

But once again, the judge appeared to be on Bryan's side and refused to allow Darrow's experts to testify.

但法官再次站在布莱恩一边,拒绝让达罗的专家作证。

The defense seemed in tatters and the trial appeared over.

辩护似乎支离破碎,审判似乎结束了。

But Darrow had one more card to play.

但达罗还有一张牌要打。

He asked permission to call an expert witness on the Bible.

他请求允许传唤圣经专家证人。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

He proposes that since William Jennings Bryan, who has been for the last what, decade, out there as the public spokesman of fundamentalism.

他提出,自威廉·詹宁斯·布莱恩(William Jennings Bryan)以来,他在过去十年里一直是原教旨主义的公共代言人。

Surely no one knows the Bible better than the Great Commoner.

毫无疑问,没有人比这位伟大的平民更了解圣经。

Let's put Bryan on the stand.

让我们把布莱恩放在证人席上。

NARRATOR

The judge was reluctant, but Bryan insisted that he was happy to take the stand.

法官不太情愿,但布莱恩坚称他很乐意出庭作证。

And the "Monkey Trial" took a dramatic turn.

而“猴子审判”发生了戏剧性的转折。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

Bryan knows the Bible.

布莱恩了解圣经。

He's studied it all his life.

他一生都在研究它。

He's read it a bunch of times.

他读过很多遍了。

Darrow's going to ask him questions about the Bible.

达罗要问他有关圣经的问题。

What could be easier than that?

还有什么比这更容易的呢?

CLARENCE DARROW

You've given considerable study to the Bible, haven't you, Mr. Bryan.

布莱恩先生,你对圣经进行了大量的研究,不是吗?

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

Yes, sir.

是的,先生。

I've tried to.

我已经尝试过。

CLARENCE DARROW

Do you claim that everything in the Bible should be literally interpreted?

你是否声称圣经中的所有内容都应该按字面解释?

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

I believe everything in the Bible should be accepted as is given there.

我相信圣经中的一切都应该被接受。

CLARENCE DARROW

When you read that Jonah swallowed the whale - or that the whale swallowed Jonah - excuse me, please - how do you literally interpret that?

当你读到约拿吞下鲸鱼时 - 或者鲸鱼吞下约拿时 - 请原谅 - 你如何从字面上解释它?

CLARENCE DARROW

You believe the big fish was made to swallow Jonah?

你相信那条大鱼是为了吞掉约拿而生的吗?

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

I'm not prepared to say that.

我不准备这么说。

The Bible merely says it was done.

圣经只是说事情已经完成了。

CLARENCE DARROW

You don't know whether it was the ordinary run of fish or made for that purpose?

你不知道这是普通的鱼还是为此目的而制作的?

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

You may guess.

你可能会猜到。

You evolutionists guess.

你们进化论者猜测。

CLARENCE DARROW

But do you believe he made them, that he made the fish, and it was big enough to swallow Jonah?

但你相信他创造了它们,他创造了鱼,而且它大到足以吞下约拿吗?

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

Yes, sir.

是的,先生。

And let me add, one miracle is just as easy to believe as another.

让我补充一点,一个奇迹和另一个奇迹一样容易相信。

CLARENCE DARROW

It is for you.

这是给你的。

Does the statement "The morning and the evening were the first day" and "The morning and the evening were the second day" mean anything to you?

“早晨和晚上是第一日”和“早晨和晚上是第二天”这句话对你来说有什么意义吗?

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

I do not think it necessarily means a 24-hour day.

我认为这并不一定意味着一天 24 小时。

CLARENCE DARROW

Then when the Bible said, for instance, "And God called the firmament heaven, and the evening and the morning were the second day," that does not necessarily mean 24 hours?

那么,例如,当圣经说:“神称穹苍为天,有晚上,有早晨,是第二日”,这并不一定意味着 24 小时吗?

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

I do not think it necessarily does.

我认为不一定。

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

If you believe, as fundamentalists purport to believe, that the Bible is the literal truth and every word in it is true, then a day has to be a 24-hour day, or now you're doing what the liberal Christians are doing, which is saying, "Oh, a day doesn't mean a day.

如果你相信,正如原教旨主义者声称相信的那样,《圣经》是字面上的真理,并且其中的每一个字都是真实的,那么一天就必须是 24 小时的一天,否则你现在正在做自由派基督徒正在做的事情,也就是说,“哦,一天并不意味着一天。

A day is a metaphor for something."

一天是某事的隐喻。”

CLARENCE DARROW

Do you think it does or not?

你觉得有还是没有?

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

I do not think it does.

我认为不会。

MICHAEL KAZIN

Bryan was a very worldly Christian, but he was being asked questions one would ask of a theologian, someone who really had been involved in debates about how you- how you defend, you know, specific passages in Christianity.

布莱恩是一位非常世俗的基督徒,但他被问到了一些神学家会问的问题,神学家真正参与过关于如何捍卫基督教特定段落的辩论。

He'd never done that.

他从来没有这样做过。

CLARENCE DARROW

You think these were not literal days?

你认为这不是字面上的日子吗?

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

I believe in creation as there told, and if I am not able to explain it, I will accept it.

我相信创造,如果我无法解释它,我会接受它。

CLARENCE DARROW

The creation might have been going on for a very long time?

创作可能已经持续了很长时间?

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

It might have continued for millions of years.

它可能持续了数百万年。

I think I can shorten this testimony.

我想我可以缩短这个证词。

The only purpose Mr. Darrow has is to slur at the Bible, but I will answer his questions.

达罗先生的唯一目的就是诽谤圣经,但我会回答他的问题。

I will answer it all at once, and I have no objection in the world.

我一下子就回答了,天下没有异议。

I want the world to know that this man, who does not believe in God, is trying to use a court in Tennessee-

我想让全世界知道这个不相信上帝的人正试图利用田纳西州的法庭——

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

-to slur at it.

- 诽谤它。

And while it requires time, I am willing to take it.

虽然这需要时间,但我愿意接受。

CLARENCE DARROW

I object to your statement.

我反对你的说法。

I am examining you on your fool ideas that no intelligent Christian on earth believes!

我正在审视你的愚蠢想法,地球上没有聪明的基督徒会相信这些想法!

NARRATOR

The judge had heard enough and adjourned the court.

法官听够了,休庭了。

Darrow was mobbed by supporters.

达罗被支持者包围。

Reporters rushed out to file stories about the epic confrontation.

记者们争先恐后地报道这场史诗般的对抗。

Most declared Darrow the clear winner.

大多数人宣称达罗是明显的赢家。

But the next day, the judge had Bryan's testimony erased from the record.

但第二天,法官将布莱恩的证词从记录中删除。

John Scopes was found guilty.

约翰·斯科普斯被判有罪。

Teaching evolution remained illegal in Tennessee and in several other states.

在田纳西州和其他几个州,教授进化论仍然是非法的。

But in the court of public opinion, the outcome of the Scopes trial was quite different.

但在舆论法庭上,斯科普斯审判的结果却截然不同。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The way the media played it out, it was this huge defeat for the rural, stupid, country bumpkin kind of fundamentalism.

从媒体的报道来看,这是农村的、愚蠢的、土包子式的原教旨主义的巨大失败。

This is old-fashioned, ancient religion that's not suitable for the modern world.

这是老式的、古老的宗教,不适合现代世界。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL M.

兰德尔·M。

MILLER: The whole world has now seen not just the ignorance but the stupidity of the so-called fundamentalists, represented by William Jennings Bryan.

米勒:全世界现在不仅看到了以威廉·詹宁斯·布莱恩为代表的所谓原教旨主义者的无知,还看到了愚蠢。

How could any intelligent person believe in this kind of stuff?

一个有智慧的人怎么会相信这种东西呢?

NARRATOR

Clearly upset by his role in the trial, Bryan threw himself into preparing for an upcoming speaking tour.

布莱恩显然对自己在审判中所扮演的角色感到不安,他全身心投入为即将到来的巡回演讲做准备。

He would use the publicity of the "monkey trial," he said, to continue the national crusade against evolution and the threat posed by science.

他说,他将利用“猴子审判”的宣传,继续反对进化论和科学构成的威胁的全国运动。

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN

Can any Christian remain indifferent?

基督徒能保持无动于衷吗?

Science is a magnificent material force, but it is not a teacher of morality.

科学是一种伟大的物质力量,但它不是道德的老师。

If civilization is to be saved from the wreckage threatened by intelligence not consecrated by love, it must be saved by the moral code of the meek and lowly Nazarene.

如果文明要从因智慧而不是爱所神圣化所威胁的废墟中被拯救出来,就必须通过温顺卑微的拿撒勒人的道德准则来拯救它。

NARRATOR

But William Jennings Bryan never embarked on his planned speaking tour.

但威廉·詹宁斯·布莱恩从未开始他计划中的巡回演讲。

Less than a week after the Scopes trial ended, he died in his sleep.

斯科普斯审判结束后不到一周,他在睡梦中去世。

With their national spokesman now gone, fundamentalists decided to abandon Bryan's public crusade.

随着国家发言人的离去,原教旨主义者决定放弃布莱恩的公开运动。

EDWARD J. LARSON

The Scopes trial was such a visible repudiation of the fundamentalists by the mainstream media and mainstream culture that there was a sense that, "Our ideas are no longer welcome.

斯科普斯审判是主流媒体和主流文化对原教旨主义者的明显否定,以至于人们有一种感觉:“我们的想法不再受欢迎。

Rather than participating in the larger society, we should build our own subculture."

我们不应该参与更大的社会,而应该建立自己的亚文化。”

CYNTHIA LYNN LYERLY

The great divide in America in the 19th century was about slavery.

十九世纪美国最大的分歧是关于奴隶制的。

Scopes marks a different religious divide, between people who believe in a literal and traditional reading of their sacred texts, and people who don't, between the fundamentalists on the one hand, and the modernizers on the other.

范围标志着一种不同的宗教分歧,即相信按字面和传统方式解读神圣文本的人和不相信按字面和传统方式解读神圣文本的人,一方面是原教旨主义者,另一方面是现代化主义者。

NARRATOR

America's journey into the modern era had forced its people to view their relationship with God in a different light.

美国进入现代时代的历程迫使其人民以不同的眼光看待他们与上帝的关系。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

You have this sort of wedge that's pushing us, where we're forced to identify ourselves not so much as Jews or as Catholics or as Protestants or as Presbyterians or as Baptists, but as conservative or modernist religious people.

有这样一种楔子在推动着我们,我们被迫将自己定位为保守派或现代主义宗教人士,而不是犹太人、天主教徒、新教徒、长老会或浸信会教徒。

NARRATOR

The divide between liberals and conservatives, between modernists and traditionalists, would come to dominate American religious life.

自由派和保守派、现代主义者和传统主义者之间的分歧将主导美国的宗教生活。

Episode 5: Soul Of A Nation NARRATOR: In decades following World War II, America would grapple with a question as old as the nation itself, the relationship between religion and politics.

第五集:国家之魂 旁白:第二次世界大战后的几十年里,美国将努力解决一个与国家本身一样古老的问题,即宗教与政治之间的关系。

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: I think we've always had a flirtation between religion and politics in American life, from the very beginning, from even before the founding of the republic.

斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗,波士顿大学宗教学教授:我认为,从一开始,甚至在共和国成立之前,美国生活中的宗教与政治之间就一直存在着调情。

But what you get after World War II is really a marriage between the two, where religion and politics are going to be closer and closer intertwined.

但二战后你所得到的实际上是两者之间的联姻,宗教和政治将越来越紧密地交织在一起。

NARRATOR

During the economic and political upheavals of the 1930s and '40s, the American religious landscape had shifted.

在 20 世纪 30 年代和 40 年代的经济和政治动荡期间,美国的宗教格局发生了变化。

Church attendance had slowed during the years of the Great Depression.

大萧条时期,去教堂的人数有所减少。

The end of World War II promised a return to normalcy.

第二次世界大战的结束有望恢复正常。

But the jubilation was short-lived.

但欢乐是短暂的。

The cold war with the Soviet Union ushered in a new age of anxiety.

与苏联的冷战迎来了一个新的焦虑时代。

As it confronted communism, America would undergo a religious revival.

当美国面对共产主义时,它将经历一场宗教复兴。

Faith would be linked with patriotism, launching an epic struggle over the nation's political and religious identity.

信仰将与爱国主义联系在一起,引发一场关于国家政治和宗教身份的史诗般的斗争。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

What's at stake is the religious narrative of America.

关键在于美国的宗教叙事。

How central is religion to the American story?

宗教对于美国故事有多重要?

And what is the story that integrates religion and American politics?

而将宗教与美国政治融为一体的故事又是什么呢?

That's very much up for grabs.

这是非常有待争夺的。

NARRATOR

In the fall of 1949, Billy Graham, a little known preacher who would become a primary engine of America's cold war religious revival, took his crusade to Los Angeles.

1949 年秋,比利·格雷厄姆(Billy Graham)这位鲜为人知的传教士后来成为美国冷战时期宗教复兴的主要推动者,他将他的十字军东征带到了洛杉矶。

GRANT WACKER, Professor of Christian History, Duke University: When he went to Los Angeles, he had just come from a couple of meetings that by his own judgment were unsuccessful.

格兰特·瓦克,杜克大学基督教历史教授:当他去洛杉矶时,他刚刚参加了几次会议,据他自己的判断,这些会议并不成功。

He had been in Baltimore.

他曾在巴尔的摩。

He had been in Altoona, Pennsylvania.

他曾在宾夕法尼亚州阿尔图纳。

And these revival meetings, at best, represented mixed success.

这些复兴会议充其量也代表了成败参半。

And in his own mind, he questioned his own vocation as an evangelist.

他在内心深处对自己作为传教士的职业提出了质疑。

NARRATOR

In Los Angeles, Graham staged his revival in a tent in the heart of downtown, unsure how many people would come to hear his message.

在洛杉矶,格雷厄姆在市中心的一个帐篷里举行了他的复兴活动,不确定有多少人会来听他的信息。

Rev.

牧师。

BILLY GRAHAM: Now today in America, we find that people are more concerned with things than they are with the things of God!

葛培理:今天在美国,我们发现人们更关心事物,而不是上帝的事!

They are more concerned with pleasure, more concerned with money, more concerned with the things of life than they are the things of almighty God!

他们更关心享乐,更关心金钱,更关心生活的事情,而不是全能神的事情!

STEPHEN PROTHERO

He's looking at L.A.

他正在看洛杉矶

and he's saying, you know, this is like Sin City, right?

他说,你知道,这就像罪恶之城,对吧?

This is the place of, you know, prostitution and the place of drunkenness and the place of fantasy in terms of Hollywood, right?

这是,你知道的,卖淫的地方,酗酒的地方,以及好莱坞幻想的地方,对吗?

And we need to turn this around.

我们需要扭转这一局面。

NARRATOR

Just as the Los Angeles crusade began, came news that stunned the nation.

就在洛杉矶十字军开始之际,震惊全国的消息传来。

FRANK LAMBERT, Historian, Purdue University: Much sooner than Americans had thought possible, the Soviet Union tested successfully an atomic bomb, and now the world was on the brink of a nuclear holocaust and Americans were filled with fear.

弗兰克·兰伯特,普渡大学历史学家:苏联试验成功原子弹,比美国人想象的要早得多,现在世界正处于核浩劫的边缘,美国人充满了恐惧。

School kids had drills, getting under their desk in the event of a, of an atomic attack.

学校的孩子们进行了演习,在发生原子弹袭击时钻到桌子下面。

People built atomic shelters.

人们建造了原子避难所。

I mean, this was something that was real, and it heightened this sense that we need to turn back to God.

我的意思是,这是真实的事情,它增强了我们需要转向上帝的感觉。

Rev.

牧师。

BILLY GRAHAM: I believe this sincerely, from the depths of my heart-

比利·格雷厄姆:我从内心深处真诚地相信这一点——

NARRATOR

In the Soviet threat, Graham found a powerful new religious message.

在苏联的威胁中,格雷厄姆发现了一个强有力的新宗教信息。

Rev.

牧师。

BILLY GRAHAM: Every time I've been to Europe, I've been more conscious than ever before that unless the Western world has an old-fashioned revival, we are done for!

葛培理:每次我去欧洲,我都比以往任何时候都更加意识到,除非西方世界出现老式复兴,否则我们就完蛋了!

We cannot last!

我们撑不下去了!

We cannot stand the tremendous strain and stress of future days in our battle with Communism unless we have a spiritual revival!

除非我们有精神上的复兴,否则我们无法承受未来与共产主义斗争的巨大压力!

FRANK LAMBERT

He framed the cold war as a moral conflict.

他将冷战描述为一场道德冲突。

It is evil versus good.

这是邪恶与善的对抗。

It is godless communism versus a God-fearing America.

这是无神论的共产主义与敬畏上帝的美国的对抗。

Rev.

牧师。

BILLY GRAHAM: I believe today that the battle is between communism and Christianity!

葛培理:我相信今天的战斗是共产主义和基督教之间的!

And I believe the only way that we're going to win that battle is for America to turn back to God and back to Christ and back to the Bible at this hour!

我相信,我们要赢得这场战斗的唯一方法就是让美国在此时回归上帝、回归基督、回归圣经!

We need a revival!

我们需要复兴!

NARRATOR

Graham's message caught the attention of media baron William Randolph Hearst, a staunch anti-communist.

格雷厄姆的信息引起了媒体大亨威廉·伦道夫·赫斯特(William Randolph Hearst)的注意,他是一位坚定的反共主义者。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER, Prof. of American Religious History: Hearst likes Graham's anti-Communist rhetoric, and he instructs his newspapers to "Puff Graham," two of the most famous words in all of American religious history.

兰德尔·巴尔默(Randall Balmer),美国宗教史教授:赫斯特喜欢格雷厄姆的反共言论,他指示他的报纸“吹嘘格雷厄姆”,这是美国宗教史上最著名的两个词。

And this really rockets Graham onto the national stage.

这确实让格雷厄姆登上了国家舞台。

GRANT WACKER

Within a matter of days, stories were carried in Life magazine, Look magazine, Time.

几天之内,《生活》杂志、《Look》杂志、《时代》杂志都报道了这些故事。

And the story went around the world.

这个故事传遍了世界各地。

FRANK LAMBERT

If you look at the rise of Billy Graham in the 1950s, it's the rise that one usually thinks of in relation to pop music stars.

如果你看看比利·格雷厄姆 (Billy Graham) 在 20 世纪 50 年代的崛起,人们通常会认为他的崛起与流行音乐明星有关。

His ascendancy was akin to that of the Beatles.

他的崛起类似于披头士乐队。

EDWARD R.

爱德华·R。

MURROW, CBS News: ["Person to Person"] Now, at 37, Billy Graham is the most famous evangelist in the world, and his power of persuasion has softened skeptics who used to call him "the hot gospeller from the Bible Belt," "the Barrymore of the Bible." In between his long tours, Billy Graham goes home for a few days of seclusion with his wife, Ruth, and their four children.

默罗,哥伦比亚广播公司新闻:[“个人对个人”]现在,37 岁的比利·格雷厄姆是世界上最著名的福音传教士,他的说服力软化了那些曾经称他为“来自圣经带的炙手可热的福音传教士”、“圣经中的白里摩尔”的怀疑论者。在长途旅行期间,比利·格雷厄姆会回家与妻子露丝和四个孩子一起隐居几天。

Rev.

牧师。

BILLY GRAHAM: Over here, Bunny.

比利·格雷厄姆:在这里,兔子。

Ed, this is Bunny over here to my left.

艾德,这是我左边的兔子。

Would you say hello to Mr. Murrow?

你能向默罗先生打个招呼吗?

FRANK LAMBERT

He becomes a spokesperson for the national culture in a way that blends Christianity and patriotism in an appealing way for a lot of people.

他以一种对很多人有吸引力的方式将基督教和爱国主义融合在一起,成为民族文化的代言人。

NARRATOR

As Graham became a national celebrity, he tried to expand the appeal of his religious revival by building relationships with those in political power.

当格雷厄姆成为全国名人时,他试图通过与政治权力人士建立关系来扩大他的宗教复兴的吸引力。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: In the 1952 campaign, it somehow emerged that Dwight Eisenhower himself had never been baptized, and he was confronted with this in the course of the campaign.

兰德尔·巴尔默:在 1952 年的竞选活动中,德怀特·艾森豪威尔本人从未受过洗礼,而他在竞选过程中就遇到了这一问题。

And his response was something to the effect that, "Well, I've been pretty busy lately.

他的回答大意是:“嗯,我最近很忙。

As soon as things settle down, I'll get around to it."

等事情稳定下来,我就会着手处理这件事。”

SARAH BARRINGER GORDON, Historian of Law & Religion: Graham advised him, "You know, you really should settle on a denomination," and the two of them had conversation back and forth.

莎拉·巴林格·戈登,法律与宗教史学家:格雷厄姆建议他,“你知道,你真的应该确定一个教派”,然后他们两人进行了来回交谈。

Mamie Eisenhower had been a Presbyterian, and Graham eventually said, "You know, Presbyterian- great denomination.

玛米·艾森豪威尔曾是一名长老会教徒,格雷厄姆最终说道:“你知道,长老会——伟大的教派。

Why don't you think about becoming a Presbyterian?" And within two weeks of being sworn in as president, Dwight Eisenhower was baptized, confirmed and became a communicant of the Presbyterian church.

你为什么不考虑成为一名长老会教徒呢?”宣誓就任总统后两周内,德怀特·艾森豪威尔接受了洗礼、坚信礼,并成为长老会的圣餐者。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Graham thought that if he could convert certain well-known individuals, that that would have a greater effect in terms of bringing others into the Kingdom.

兰德尔·巴尔默:格雷厄姆认为,如果他能够改变某些知名人士的信仰,那么在将其他人带入王国方面会产生更大的效果。

That would make the Gospel more palatable to others.

这会让福音更容易被其他人接受。

NARRATOR

As president, Eisenhower invoked faith as a weapon against communism, just as Billy Graham had done.

作为总统,艾森豪威尔将信仰作为反对共产主义的武器,就像比利·格雷厄姆所做的那样。

Pres.

新闻。

DWIGHT D.

德怀特·D.

EISENHOWER: It seems to me if we're going to win this fight, we have got to go back to the very fundamentals of all things.

艾森豪威尔:在我看来,如果我们要赢得这场战斗,我们就必须回到所有事情的根本上。

And one of them is that we are a religious people.

其中之一是我们是一个有宗教信仰的民族。

Even those among us who are so- in my opinion, so silly as to doubt the existence of an Almighty, we are still members of a religious civilization.

即使我们当中那些——在我看来,愚蠢到怀疑全能者的存在——的人,我们仍然是宗教文明的成员。

PHILIP GOFF, Ctr.

菲利普·戈夫中心

for Study of Religion and American Culture: You see it in the language of Dwight D.

宗教与美国文化研究:你可以用 Dwight D.

Eisenhower and in the language of Billy Graham, this sense that religion is a sign of democracy.

用艾森豪威尔和比利·格雷厄姆的话说,宗教是民主的标志。

And they marry the two.

他们两人结婚了。

Very clearly, Eisenhower comes out and says that democracy is, in fact, a public expression, basically, of a deeply felt religion.

非常清楚的是,艾森豪威尔站出来说,民主实际上是一种公开表达,基本上是一种深刻的宗教信仰。

And he made a number of appeals to people to attend church.

他还多次呼吁人们去教堂。

He made clear it doesn't matter which one.

他明确表示,哪一个并不重要。

That's not important.

那不重要。

It's just go to a worship service of whatever faith you are.

不管你是什么信仰,只要去参加礼拜仪式就可以了。

This was not without effect.

这并非没有效果。

By 1960, as he leaves office, church membership in the United States stood at 65 percent.

到 1960 年他卸任时,美国的教会成员比例已达 65%。

It has never been that high before.

以前从来没有这么高过。

SARAH BARRINGTON GORDON

It was at the New York Avenue Presbyterian church that Eisenhower heard a sermon on adding the words "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance, and from that day forward became an advocate of including the new words.

正是在纽约大道长老会教堂,艾森豪威尔听到了一场关于在效忠誓词中添加“上帝之下”一词的布道,从那天起,艾森豪威尔就成为了纳入这些新词的倡导者。

After Eisenhower got behind it, after it got some publicity, the public was so overwhelmingly in favor.

艾森豪威尔支持后,经过一定的宣传,公众的支持率非常高。

NEWSREEL ANNOUNCER

President Eisenhower arrives at the Post Office Department in Washington for the debut of the stamp, first to proclaim "In God We Trust."

艾森豪威尔总统抵达华盛顿邮局,参加邮票首次亮相,首先宣布“我们相信上帝”。

FRANK LAMBERT

It was in that environment, with this cold war, that Congress decided that "In God We Trust" should be the new motto, reclaiming this notion that we're a chosen people and that we were conceived under God and that we flourish under God, and we turn our backs on God at our own peril.

正是在这样的环境下,在这场冷战中,国会决定“我们相信上帝”应该成为新的座右铭,重申我们是选民,我们在上帝之下孕育,我们在上帝之下繁荣,如果我们背弃上帝,后果自负。

NARRATOR

Nothing demonstrated America's merging of faith and patriotism and the strength of its religious revival more than Billy Graham's 1957 crusade in New York City.

没有什么比葛培理 1957 年在纽约市的十字军东征更能证明美国信仰与爱国主义的融合以及宗教复兴的力量。

Rev.

牧师。

BILLY GRAHAM: There's a quiet little voice in your heart that says you better give your life to Christ.

葛培理:你心里有一个安静的小声音说你最好把你的生命交给基督。

Now is the time.

现在是时候了。

That is the voice of-

那是——

NARRATOR

Graham booked Madison Square Garden for a six-week campaign.

格雷厄姆预订了麦迪逊广场花园进行为期六周的竞选活动。

Night after night, the seats were packed and the crusade was extended.

一夜又一夜,座位都挤满了人,十字军东征也延长了。

It would last more than three months.

它将持续三个多月。

Rev.

牧师。

BILLY GRAHAM: I ask you to give your life to Christ now, tonight, while there's time!

葛培理:我请求你现在就将生命献给基督,今晚,趁还有时间!

The Bible says now is the accepted time, and all the way through the Bible, it's an urgent business, this business of coming to Christ!

圣经说现在是被接受的时刻,整本圣经都说这是一件紧急的事,就是归向基督的事!

I'm going to ask you to come and receive him right now.

我要请你现在过来接待他。

What are you going to do?

你会怎样做?

FRANK LAMBERT

Billy Graham was primarily interested in saving individuals.

比利·格雷厄姆主要对拯救个人感兴趣。

The way you save the nation is to save individuals one at a time.

拯救国家的方法就是一次拯救一个人。

And if all Americans would become born-again Christians, from the Billy Graham perspective, then you would have a righteous society.

从比利·格雷厄姆的角度来看,如果所有美国人都成为重生的基督徒,那么就会有一个正义的社会。

MAN AT COCKTAIL PARTY

It's a well-organized campaign, all right, real saturation.

这是一场组织良好的活动,是的,真正的饱和。

NARRATOR

Graham produced a film dramatizing his message that even sophisticated New Yorkers needed to "come to Christ."

格雷厄姆制作了一部影片,戏剧化地表达了他的信息:即使是老练的纽约人也需要“归向基督”。

WOMAN AT COCKTAIL PARTY

I read somewhere they're using 2,000 or 3,000 voices in just the chorus.

我在某处读到他们仅在副歌部分就使用了 2,000 或 3,000 个声音。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER, Prof. of American Religious History: Graham was especially interested in the people who are at the upper echelons of society, particularly in terms of their cultural influence.

兰德尔·巴尔默,美国宗教史教授:格雷厄姆对社会上层人士特别感兴趣,特别是他们的文化影响力。

MAN AT COCKTAIL PARTY

Well, I think we ought to have an opinion from our charming hostess.

好吧,我想我们应该听听我们迷人的女主人的意见。

Mrs. Foster, what do you think of this crusade business?

福斯特夫人,您对这次十字军东征有何看法?

Well, honey?

嗯,亲爱的?

Mrs. FOSTER: Well, all of your comments sound so familiar.

福斯特夫人:嗯,你所有的评论听起来都很熟悉。

But last night, I went to the Garden.

但昨晚,我去了花园。

I knew I'd been groping for something, but I didn't know what it was until Mr. Graham began to speak.

我知道我一直在摸索什么,但直到格雷厄姆先生开始说话我才知道那是什么。

As he talked, I had a strange feeling of need.

当他说话时,我有一种奇怪的需要感。

Rev.

牧师。

BILLY GRAHAM: Night after night, I've asked people to bring their Bibles.

葛培理:日复一日,我要求人们带上圣经。

I hope that many of you brought your Bibles tonight.

我希望今晚你们很多人都带了圣经。

NARRATOR

In New York, Graham preached in Times Square, on Wall Street and, in the crusade's biggest event, before a record-breaking crowd of over 100,000 at Yankee Stadium.

在纽约,格雷厄姆在时代广场、华尔街以及在十字军最盛大的活动中,在洋基体育场向破纪录的超过 100,000 名观众传道。

That night, the cold war embrace between American religion and American politics was on full display as Graham shared his pulpit with Vice President Richard Nixon.

那天晚上,当格雷厄姆与副总统理查德·尼克松同台讲坛时,美国宗教与美国政治之间的冷战拥抱得到了充分展示。

Vice Pres.

副总统。

RICHARD NIXON: One of the most basic reasons for America progress in the past and for our strength today is that from the time of our foundation, we have had a deep and abiding faith in God.

理查德·尼克松:美国过去的进步和今天的力量的最基本原因之一是,从建国之初起,我们就对上帝怀有深刻而持久的信仰。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Nixon in 1957, of course, is already thinking about the 1960 presidential campaign.

兰德尔·巴尔默:当然,1957 年的尼克松已经在考虑 1960 年的总统竞选了。

So for Nixon, this was a very, very powerful moment, being aligned with none other than Billy Graham.

因此,对于尼克松来说,这是一个非常非常强大的时刻,他与比利·格雷厄姆(Billy Graham)结盟。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

You have preachers who draw on politics and politicians who are using religion for their own public policy reasons.

有些传教士利用政治,而政客则利用宗教来实现自己的公共政策。

And so the sort of wall of separation of church and state that has been around as an option is going to be gradually, gradually whittled away in this period.

因此,作为一种选择而存在的那种政教分离之墙将在这一时期逐渐被削弱。

Rev.

牧师。

BILLY GRAHAM: And I would say to our international problems that the principles of Christ form the only ideology hot enough to stop communism!

葛培理:对于我们的国际问题,我想说的是,基督的原则是唯一足以阻止共产主义的意识形态!

When communism conquers a nation, it makes every man a slave!

当共产主义征服一个国家时,它会让每个人都成为奴隶!

When Christianity conquers a nation, it makes every man a king!

当基督教征服一个国家时,它使每个人都成为国王!

And it is my prayer-

这是我的祈祷——

NARRATOR

But as this cold war convergence of faith and patriotism pervaded the country, some Americans saw it as a threat to their freedom.

但随着信仰和爱国主义的冷战融合席卷全国,一些美国人认为这是对他们自由的威胁。

One of those dissenting voices came from a non-religious family deep in the American heartland, in Champaign, Illinois.

其中一个反对声音来自美国腹地伊利诺伊州尚佩恩市的一个非宗教家庭。

JAMES TERRY McCOLLUM: Champaign was a pretty conservative community at the time.

JAMES TERRY McCOLLUM:香槟当时是一个相当保守的社区。

And as a matter of fact, at that time, atheism was equated with communism.

事实上,当时无神论就等同于共产主义。

So you just didn't be an atheist in those days, or let people know.

所以你当时并没有成为无神论者,或者让人们知道。

NARRATOR

Beginning in the 1940s, Champaign public school students were encouraged to attend classes in religious instruction, led by a member of their faith, on school grounds.

从 20 世纪 40 年代开始,尚佩恩公立学校的学生被鼓励在校园内参加由其信仰成员主持的宗教课程。

If they chose not to, they were left to study alone in an empty room, like 5th grader Terry McCollum.

如果他们选择不这样做,他们就会被留在空房间里独自学习,就像五年级学生特里·麦科勒姆一样。

TERRY McCOLLUM: We would go to the- what was called the music room with a teacher, the regular public school teacher, while the class was going on.

特里·麦科勒姆:上课时,我们会和一位老师一起去所谓的音乐室,这位老师是普通公立学校的老师。

And there was a time when the teacher set me out in the hall at a desk, which was usually for detention purposes.

有一次,老师把我放在大厅的一张桌子旁,这通常是出于留堂的目的。

Of course, I was there alone, and I didn't take to that too hot.

当然,我一个人在那儿,并没有感到太热。

And my mother heard about it.

我妈妈也听说了这件事。

She got rather incensed about it.

她对此感到相当愤怒。

My mother was not somebody who was looking for a fight, but you didn't mess with her, either.

我妈妈不是一个喜欢打架的人,但你也没有惹她。

NARRATOR

Vashti McCollum, a self-described humanist, thought the religious classes program violated her son's rights.

自称人文主义者的瓦什蒂·麦科勒姆 (Vashti McCollum) 认为宗教课程侵犯了她儿子的权利。

TERRY McCOLLUM: She went to see the superintendent of schools and told him she objected to the program and that she felt it was illegal, and that it was impacting badly on her son and that it should be discontinued.

特里·麦科勒姆:她去找学校负责人,告诉他她反对该计划,她认为该计划是非法的,并且该计划对她的儿子产生了严重影响,应该停止该计划。

Well, the school board, of course, was very much in favor of the program, so there was nothing that the superintendent could do about it.

当然,学校董事会非常支持这个计划,所以校长对此无能为力。

NARRATOR

Vashti McCollum sued the school board.

瓦什蒂·麦科勒姆起诉学校董事会。

[ newspaper headline: "Sue to stop city schools' Bible hour" ]

[报纸标题:“起诉停止城市学校的圣经时间”]

NARRATOR

In the local Illinois court, she argued it was unconstitutional for public schools to impose religion on anyone.

在伊利诺伊州当地法院,她辩称公立学校将宗教强加给任何人是违宪的。

[ newspaper headlines: "Atheist loses court fight against school," "Religion declared needed in school" ]

[报纸头条:“无神论者在与学校的法庭斗争中失败”、“学校需要宗教”]

NARRATOR

She lost the case, then appealed to the state supreme court, where she lost again.

她输掉了官司,然后上诉到州最高法院,但又败诉。

And local hostility toward her family grew.

当地人对她家人的敌意与日俱增。

TERRY McCOLLUM: Well, we had a cat that was lynched.

特里·麦科勒姆:嗯,我们有一只被私刑处死的猫。

We had things thrown at the house.

我们家里有人扔东西。

My mother answered the door one time and was deluged in a shower of garbage.

有一次,我母亲去开门,结果被一堆垃圾淹没了。

We got some really juicy hate mail.

我们收到了一些非常有趣的仇恨邮件。

We had a letter that was addressed simply to "That Atheist Woman," no address, and the Postal Service delivered it.

我们收到了一封简单写给“那个无神论女人”的信,没有地址,邮政局将其投递。

NARRATOR

The case eventually reached the U.S. Supreme Court, where the Justices overturned the Illinois courts and ruled for the McCollums.

该案最终到达美国最高法院,法官推翻了伊利诺伊州法院的裁决,做出了麦科勒姆夫妇胜诉的裁决。

The 8-to-1 decision invoked Thomas Jefferson's interpretation that the 1st Amendment erected a "wall of separation" between church and state.

8比1的决定援引了托马斯·杰斐逊的解释,即第一修正案在教会和国家之间竖起了一道“隔离墙”。

SARAH BARRINGER GORDON, University of Pennsylvania: The court said that it was unconstitutional to use the machinery of the public school, to use the property of the public school to enforce religious educational ideals of the parents or of the children's denomination.

莎拉·巴林格·戈登,宾夕法尼亚大学:法院表示,利用公立学校的机制、利用公立学校的财产来强制执行家长或儿童教派的宗教教育理想是违宪的。

It certainly was appropriate for a child to get a religious education, but not for the government to be providing it on public school property.

孩子接受宗教教育当然是合适的,但政府在公立学校提供宗教教育就不合适了。

TERRY McCOLLUM: There was a lot of hostility to that ruling, a lot of hostility.

特里·麦科勒姆:对该裁决存在很多敌意,很多敌意。

One publication said little Terry McCollum now has the right to go to hell.

一份出版物称,小特里·麦科勒姆现在有权下地狱。

So I don't think, at that time, it liberalized anything, except for the law.

所以我认为,当时除了法律之外,它没有放宽任何东西。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The Supreme Court is saying, you know, "This may not fit with the American narrative, with the American mythology about this as a nation ordained by God, but in terms of 1st Amendment protections for minorities, that atheists have the same protections that other minorities have."

最高法院说,你知道,“这可能不符合美国的叙述,不符合美国关于这是一个由上帝命定的国家的神话,但就第一修正案对少数群体的保护而言,无神论者与其他少数群体享有相同的保护。”

NARRATOR

It would take a series of Supreme Court rulings over several years to more fully define the role of religion in the public schools.

最高法院需要几年时间做出一系列裁决才能更全面地界定宗教在公立学校中的作用。

TEACHER

I shall read Psalm 111.

我要读诗篇111篇。

"Praise the Lord.

“赞美主。

I will give thanks to the Lord with my whole heart"-

我要全心感谢主”——

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Boston University: Schools have always been a place where we inculcated this religious sensibility and where we made the connection between Christianity and morality and citizenship.

波士顿大学斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗:学校一直是我们灌输这种宗教情感以及将基督教与道德和公民身份联系起来的地方。

Especially after World War II, in the cold war, with the specter of the communist, the atheistic communists, it became really important to do religion in the public schools and not teach about religion, not world religions courses, or you know, objective Bible courses, but to pray.

特别是在第二次世界大战之后,在冷战时期,随着共产主义者、无神论共产主义者的幽灵,在公立学校教授宗教信仰变得非常重要,而不是教授宗教知识,不是世界宗教课程,或者你知道,客观的圣经课程,而是祈祷。

STUDENTS

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name-

我们在天上的父,愿人都尊你的名为圣——

NARRATOR

The decisive battle over school prayer began in a New York suburb after the state recommended an official non-denominational prayer for school children to recite.

在纽约州建议学童背诵官方的非宗派祈祷文后,有关学校祈祷的决定性斗争在纽约郊区爆发。

BRUCE DIERENFIELD, Historian, Canisius College: The New York State Board of Regents convened a group of ministers, priests and rabbis to prepare a prayer at the height of the cold war.

布鲁斯·迪伦菲尔德,卡尼修斯学院历史学家:纽约州董事会召集了一群牧师、牧师和拉比,在冷战最激烈的时期准备祈祷。

And this prayer was going to inoculate children against communism, atheism.

这个祈祷旨在让孩子们免受共产主义和无神论的侵害。

SCHOOL CHILDREN

Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence upon thee and we beg thy blessings upon us, our parents, our teachers, and our country.

全能的上帝,我们承认我们对你的依赖,我们祈求你祝福我们、我们的父母、我们的老师和我们的国家。

Amen.

阿门。

BRUCE DIERENFIELD

Nobody questioned it.

没有人质疑它。

Twenty-two words- who could object to that?

二十二个字——谁能反对呢?

NARRATOR

But opposition to the prayer did surface among several Jewish families who had recently moved to Long Island.

但最近搬到长岛的几个犹太家庭确实出现了对祈祷的反对。

BRUCE DIERENFIELD

The real crux of the matter came down to one particular elementary school that most Jews went to.

问题的真正症结在于大多数犹太人就读的一所特定小学。

LAWRENCE ROTH, Parent: My immediate reaction was that the state and the school board had no right to impose religion or prayers on the school children.

劳伦斯·罗斯,家长:我的第一反应是,州和学校董事会无权将宗教或祈祷强加给学童。

BRUCE DIERENFIELD

Lawrence Roth learned that his children, Dan and Joe, were forced to say prayers, that there was a statue of Jesus in one of the classrooms.

劳伦斯·罗斯得知他的孩子丹和乔被迫祈祷,其中一间教室里有一尊耶稣雕像。

He said, "I didn't bring our family out here to endure this."

他说:“我带我们的家人来这里并不是为了忍受这些。”

NARRATOR

Roth recruited dozens of parents who also objected to the prayer, and ultimately, five families sued the school district.

罗斯招募了数十名同样反对祈祷的家长,最终有五个家庭起诉了学区。

BRUCE DIERENFIELD

The issue for all of them was fundamentally that to be an American means that you don't have to be subjected to religious ideas and practices sponsored by the state that you find objectionable.

对他们所有人来说,根本上的问题是,成为美国人意味着你不必受到你认为令人反感的国家支持的宗教思想和习俗的影响。

NARRATOR

In court, attorneys for the parents and for the school district argued the true meaning of the 1st Amendment, arguments they restaged for CBS news cameras.

在法庭上,家长和学区的律师就第一修正案的真正含义进行了辩论,他们在哥伦比亚广播公司的新闻摄像机上重新演绎了这些论点。

WILLIAM BUTLER, Attorney for Parents: We come here in the spirit of Madison and Jefferson, in the conviction, the deep conviction that the religious liberty not only of our clients but of all Americas lies in the principle of law set forth in the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, which says that Congress shall make now law respecting an establishment of religion or preventing the free exercise thereof.

威廉·巴特勒,家长律师:我们本着麦迪逊和杰斐逊的精神来到这里,坚信,不仅是我们客户的宗教自由,而且是整个美洲的宗教自由,都存在于宪法第一修正案规定的法律原则之中,该修正案规定,国会现在应制定法律,尊重建立宗教或阻止宗教自由的行使。

BERTRAM DAIKER, Attorney for School District: The intention at that time was to prevent the establishment of a state church, or a national church.

BERTRAM DAIKER,学区律师:当时的意图是阻止建立国家教会或国家教会。

It was not in any way intended to interfere with the religious freedoms of all of our people.

它无意以任何方式干涉我们全体人民的宗教自由。

NARRATOR

In the local court, the school district won its case, and then won again in the New York state appeals courts.

在当地法院,学区赢得了官司,然后在纽约州上诉法院再次获胜。

But when the case reached the U.S. Supreme Court in 1962, the Justices ruled 6 to 1 for the parents, banning prayer in public schools nationwide.

但当该案于 1962 年到达美国最高法院时,法官以 6 比 1 的裁决裁决家长胜诉,禁止在全国公立学校进行祈祷。

SARAH BARRINGER GORDON, Legal scholar, University of Pennsylvania: The Supreme Court said the government simply cannot be in the business of providing religion.

莎拉·巴林格·戈登(SARAH BARRINGER GORDON),宾夕法尼亚大学法律学者:最高法院表示,政府根本不能从事提供宗教的业务。

This was ground-level constitutional decision-making affecting the way public schools across the country design education for their students.

这是影响全国公立学校为学生设计教育方式的基层宪法决策。

So this was- this was a massive change.

所以这是——这是一个巨大的变化。

Rep.

代表。

FRANK BECKER (R), New York: I think that this decision is most deplorable.

弗兰克·贝克尔(R),纽约:我认为这个决定是最令人遗憾的。

It is tragic.

这是悲剧性的。

I think that June 25, 1962, will go down as the blackest day in the history of the United States.

我认为1962年6月25日将成为美国历史上最黑暗的一天。

SARAH BARRINGTON GORDON

The school prayer decision was in its day the most unpopular decision the Supreme Court had ever made.

学校祈祷的决定是当时最高法院做出的最不受欢迎的决定。

Sen.

参议员。

JAMES EASTLAND (D), Mississippi: You know, it's a terrible thing to say that you can't have prayer in the schools of this country.

詹姆斯·伊斯特兰(D),密西西比州:你知道,说你不能在这个国家的学校里祈祷是一件可怕的事情。

Isn't the number one- one the of number one objectives of atheistic communism the destruction of the religious and spiritual life of this country?

无神论共产主义的首要目标不是破坏这个国家的宗教和精神生活吗?

Rev.

牧师。

BILLY GRAHAM: I think there's a tremendous resentment.

比利·格雷厄姆:我认为存在巨大的怨恨。

And I think that if a vote were taken in the United States, it would go 80 percent, it would be overwhelming to have prayer and Bible reading in the schools.

我认为如果在美国进行投票的话,会获得80%的支持,在学校里进行祈祷和读圣经将会是压倒性的。

NARRATOR

After the ruling, the Long Island families were harassed and ostracized

裁决后,长岛家庭受到骚扰和排斥

BRUCE DIERENFIELD

The Roths got thousands of hate phone calls in one week.

罗斯一家在一周内接到了数千个仇恨电话。

There were fistfights.

发生了打架事件。

There was even, at one point, a cross burning with gasoline rags near the Roths' car that nearly blew up the car and maybe the home.

甚至有一次,罗斯一家的汽车附近有一个用汽油抹布燃烧的十字架,几乎炸毁了汽车,甚至可能炸毁了房屋。

It was just a stunning display of hatred.

这只是令人震惊的仇恨表现。

It's one thing to say you believe in a principle, it's another thing to put your lives and your family on the line.

说你相信一个原则是一回事,将你的生命和家人置于危险之中是另一回事。

And not many people do that.

而且这样做的人并不多。

NARRATOR

As the legal battles over separation of church and state were being waged, the most important social reform movement of the 20th century was putting religious faith at the center of its political aspirations.

随着关于政教分离的法律斗争不断展开,20世纪最重要的社会改革运动是将宗教信仰置于其政治愿望的中心。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The Civil Rights movement had as its goal to get rid of segregation.

民权运动的目标是消除种族隔离。

This was a political goal, but it was advanced very much through religious means.

这是一个政治目标,但它在很大程度上是通过宗教手段来推进的。

The whole thing had the feel of religion about it.

整件事有一种宗教的感觉。

It had the feel of a revival or a religious crusade.

它有一种复兴或宗教十字军东征的感觉。

It was moving forward under the direction of people who understood the biblical prophetic tradition of calling out injustice and unrighteousness in the name of God.

它在理解圣经预言传统的人们的指导下向前发展,这些传统以上帝的名义呼吁不公正和不正义。

NARRATOR

At the heart of the movement was the black church, which had sustained African-Americans since slavery.

这场运动的核心是黑人教会,它自奴隶制以来一直支持着非裔美国人。

Rev.

牧师。

RICHARD LISCHER, Prof. of Preaching, Duke Divinity School: The black church has always worked for spiritual enhancement and growth on the weekends and political up-building and improvement during the week.

理查德·利舍尔(RICHARD LISCHER),杜克神学院传教教授:黑人教会一直致力于周末的精神提升和成长,以及工作日的政治建设和改善。

CLAYBORNE CARSON, Historian, Stanford University: Black ministers saw that they needed to interpret the message of Christianity to have some special meaning for those who are poor and oppressed minorities.

克莱伯恩·卡森,斯坦福大学历史学家:黑人牧师们认为他们需要解释基督教的信息,以便对那些贫穷和受压迫的少数族裔有一些特殊的意义。

NARRATOR

In 1955, in Montgomery, Alabama, Martin Luther King, Jr., descended from generations of preachers, took his first job as pastor of the city's oldest black church.

1955 年,在阿拉巴马州蒙哥马利,几代传教士的后裔马丁·路德·金 (Martin Luther King, Jr.) 开始了他的第一份工作,担任该市最古老的黑人教堂的牧师。

ANDREW YOUNG, Aide to Martin Luther King, Jr.: He chose to go to Montgomery because he wanted a little, quiet church where he could finish his doctoral dissertation.

安德鲁·杨,马丁·路德·金的助手:他选择去蒙哥马利是因为他想要一个安静的小教堂,在那里他可以完成他的博士论文。

And lo and behold, as soon as he sends in his doctoral dissertation, Rosa Parks sits down on the bus.

你瞧,罗莎·帕克斯一寄出博士论文,就坐上了公交车。

CLAYBORNE CARSON

Rosa Parks sets him on a different course, that once she takes her action of refusing to give up her seat on the Montgomery bus, a movement starts.

罗莎·帕克斯让他走上一条不同的道路,一旦她在蒙哥马利公交车上采取拒绝让座的行动,一场运动就开始了。

And he's selected to lead it.

他被选为领导者。

NARRATOR

As the new leader of the bus boycott, King gave his first Civil Rights speech in a packed Montgomery church.

作为抵制公交车运动的新领导人,金在拥挤的蒙哥马利教堂发表了他的第一次民权演讲。

Just 26 years old, he laid out the central ideas that would define the movement, merging biblical principles with the ideals of democracy.

年仅 26 岁的他就提出了定义这场运动的中心思想,将圣经原则与民主理想融为一体。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: We are not wrong in what we are doing!

马丁·路德·金:我们所做的事情并没有错!

If we are wrong, the Supreme Court of this nation is wrong!

如果我们错了,这个国家的最高法院就错了!

If we are wrong, the Constitution of the United States is wrong!

如果我们错了,美国宪法就是错的!

If we are wrong, God Almighty is wrong!

如果我们错了,全能的神就错了!

FRANKLIN LAMBERT

Martin Luther King saw America's founding documents as giving a voice, giving expression to fundamental biblical principles of justice and peace and equality.

马丁·路德·金认为美国的建国文件发出了声音,表达了正义、和平与平等的基本圣经原则。

We're all equal before God, says the Bible.

圣经说,上帝面前人人平等。

All men are created equal, says the Declaration of Independence.

《独立宣言》说,人人生而平等。

And so Martin Luther King is saying, "Let's take that seriously."

因此马丁·路德·金说:“让我们认真对待这一点。”

NARRATOR

The bus boycott challenged the power structure in Montgomery.

抵制公交车运动对蒙哥马利的权力结构提出了挑战。

At their home on South Jackson Street, King and his family endured death threats that shook his resolve.

在南杰克逊街的家中,金和他的家人遭受了死亡威胁,这动摇了他的决心。

Rev.

牧师。

RICHARD LISCHER: In the middle of the night, he receives a threatening telephone call.

理查德·利舍尔:半夜,他接到一个威胁电话。

The call says, "We're going to hurt your family, so you better just get out of town."

电话里写着:“我们会伤害你的家人,所以你最好离开小镇。”

CLAYBORNE CARSON

And he's sitting alone in the kitchen, and his wife and child are in the bedroom.

他独自坐在厨房里,他的妻子和孩子在卧室里。

And he is wondering, you know, "Why did I do this?

他想知道,你知道,“我为什么要这么做?

Why did I accept this role?"

我为什么接受这个角色?”

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: Lord, I must confess that I'm weak now.

小马丁·路德·金:主啊,我必须承认我现在很软弱。

I'm faltering.

我正犹豫不决。

I'm losing my courage!

我快失去勇气了!

NARRATOR

King later recounted how he sat alone in his kitchen and prayed.

金后来讲述了他如何独自坐在厨房里祈祷。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: And it seemed at that moment that I could hear an inner voice saying to me, "Martin Luther, stand up for righteousness!

小马丁·路德·金:在那一刻,我似乎听到内心有一个声音对我说:“马丁·路德,为正义挺身而出!

Stand up for justice.!

站出来维护正义!

And lo, I heard the voice of Jesus saying still to fight on!

看哪,我听到耶稣的声音说仍然要继续战斗!

He promised never to leave me, never to leave me alone, no, never alone!

他答应永远不会离开我,永远不会让我孤单,不,永远不会孤单!

CLAYBORNE CARSON

And it's at that point he had that sense that God was with him in the struggle.

就在那时,他感觉到上帝在他的斗争中与他同在。

And once he had goes through that crisis, I think he's really at peace with whatever is going to happen.

一旦他经历了那场危机,我认为他对将要发生的一切都感到非常平静。

NARRATOR

Just three days later, King's house was bombed.

仅仅三天后,金的房子就被炸了。

ANDREW YOUNG

They just barely missed his baby daughter.

他们只是想念他的小女儿。

Coretta had just taken her back to the kitchen to get her some milk.

科雷塔刚刚带她回厨房去给她拿点牛奶。

She was 3 weeks old or something like that.

她大概三周大了。

NARRATOR

After the bombing, a crowd of supporters gathered outside, eager for revenge.

爆炸发生后,一群支持者聚集在外面,渴望复仇。

ANDREW YOUNG

All of the men had been to the war, and they came to Martin's house with their guns.

所有的人都参加过战争,他们带着枪来到马丁家。

And he had read Gandhi by that time, and he said, "We've got to find another way to change America without violence." And he sent them home with their guns.

那时他已经读过甘地的著作,他说:“我们必须找到另一种方式来改变美国,而不需要暴力。”他让他们带着枪回家。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: We still have the attitude of love.

马丁·路德·金:我们仍然有爱的态度。

We still have the method passive resistance.

我们还有被动抵抗的方法。

And we are still insisting emphatically that violence is self-defeating, that he who lives by the sword will perish by the sword.

而我们仍然强调,暴力只会弄巧成拙,靠刀剑生存的人必死于刀剑之下。

NARRATOR

A year later, the Supreme Court declared that Montgomery's segregated buses were illegal, a victory for King's strategy of non-violent resistance.

一年后,最高法院宣布蒙哥马利的隔离公交车非法,这是金非暴力抵抗策略的胜利。

ANDREW YOUNG

You began to see a way to change America without destroying America that allowed us to exercise our religion, our faith, and our fight for freedom.

你们开始找到一种在不破坏美国的情况下改变美国的方法,让我们能够行使我们的宗教、我们的信仰和为自由而战。

NARRATOR

As the Civil Rights movement linked faith with political change, the candidacy of John Kennedy in the 1960 presidential campaign reignited the struggle over the separation of church and state.

随着民权运动将信仰与政治变革联系起来,约翰·肯尼迪在 1960 年总统竞选中的候选资格重新点燃了政教分离的斗争。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

As recently as 1960, we still had this fear of Catholics in America.

直到 1960 年,我们仍然对美国的天主教徒心怀恐惧。

You had this specter of Vatican takeover of American society that people have been worried about in American history for hundreds of years before even Kennedy emerged.

在美国历史上,甚至在肯尼迪出现之前数百年,人们就一直担心梵蒂冈接管美国社会的幽灵。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Up until Kennedy, all the presidents were Protestant.

直到肯尼迪之前,所有总统都是新教徒。

This had been a Protestant country.

这曾经是一个新教国家。

We wouldn't have said it that way, but it was.

我们不会那样说,但事实确实如此。

GRANT WACKER, Professor of Christian History: This was a historic Protestant fear, that a Catholic president could not possibly be uncompromised in relation to the Vatican.

基督教历史教授格兰特·瓦克:这是新教徒历史性的恐惧,天主教总统不可能在与梵蒂冈的关系上不妥协。

QUESTION

You would be divided between two loyalties, to your church and to your state, if you were to be elected president?

如果你当选总统,你会分为两种忠诚:对你的教会和对你的国家?

Sen.

参议员。

JOHN F.

约翰·F.

KENNEDY (D-MA), Presidential Candidate: Let me just say that I would not.

肯尼迪(马萨诸塞州民主党议员),总统候选人:我只想说我不会。

I have sworn to uphold the Constitution in the 14 years I've been in Congress, in the years I was in the service.

我在国会任职的 14 年里,在我任职的这些年里,宣誓维护宪法。

The Constitution provides in the 1st Amendment that Congress shall make no laws abridging the freedom of religion.

宪法第一修正案规定国会不得制定限制宗教自由的法律。

I must say I believe in it.

我必须说我相信它。

I think it's the only way that this country can go ahead.

我认为这是这个国家能够前进的唯一途径。

NARRATOR

The prospect of a Catholic in the White House alarmed Protestant supporters of Kennedy's opponent, Richard Nixon, who was closely allied with Billy Graham.

天主教徒入主白宫的前景让肯尼迪的对手理查德·尼克松的新教支持者感到震惊,尼克松与比利·格雷厄姆关系密切。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER, Barnard College, Columbia University: Richard Nixon, who Graham thinks is an exemplar of Protestant values, Christian values.

兰德尔·巴尔默,哥伦比亚大学巴纳德学院:理查德·尼克松,格雷厄姆认为他是新教价值观、基督教价值观的典范。

Graham is very concerned about the prospect of a Roman Catholic in the White House, and he resolves to do something about it.

格雷厄姆非常担心罗马天主教徒入主白宫的前景,他决心为此做点什么。

But he's cagey enough to remain on the sidelines.

但他很谨慎,保持在场边。

NARRATOR

As the fall campaign began, Billy Graham wrote to Kennedy, assuring the candidate that rumors Graham might raise the religious issue were not true.

秋季竞选开始时,比利·格雷厄姆写信给肯尼迪,向这位候选人保证,格雷厄姆可能提出宗教问题的传言并不属实。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: It was a very cordial, congenial letter, as you might imagine.

兰德尔·巴尔默:正如你想象的那样,这是一封非常亲切、友善的信。

Eight days later, Billy Graham convenes a meeting of American Protestant ministers in Montreux, Switzerland, for the purpose of discussing how they could ensure that John Kennedy would not be elected in November.

八天后,葛培理在瑞士蒙特勒召开美国新教部长会议,讨论如何确保约翰·肯尼迪不会在 11 月当选。

NARRATOR

Behind the scenes, Graham wrote Nixon about the meeting and the group's plans, but he would keep his own role private and not speak publicly on the Catholic issue.

在幕后,格雷厄姆写信给尼克松有关这次会议和该组织的计划,但他将自己的角色保密,不会公开谈论天主教问题。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Just after Labor Day, there was another gathering of Protestant clergy in Washington, D.C., at the Mayflower Hotel.

兰德尔·巴尔默:劳动节刚过,新教神职人员在华盛顿特区的五月花酒店举行了另一场聚会。

Billy Graham was not there.

比利·格雷厄姆不在场。

It was a closed-door meeting.

这是一次闭门会议。

The purpose of the gathering was to sound the alarm that, "We think it is dangerous to elect a Roman Catholic as president of the United States."

这次聚会的目的是敲响警钟:“我们认为选举罗马天主教徒担任美国总统是危险的。”

NARRATOR

In Houston, Texas, before 300 Protestant ministers, Kennedy confronted the issue head on, clarifying his views on church and state.

在得克萨斯州休斯顿,肯尼迪在 300 名新教牧师面前直面这个问题,澄清了他对教会和国家的看法。

Sen.

参议员。

JOHN F.

约翰·F.

KENNEDY: So it is apparently necessary for me to state once again not what kind of church I believe in, for that should be important only to me, but what kind of America I believe in.

肯尼迪:所以,显然我有必要再次说明我相信什么样的美国,因为这对我来说才重要,而不是我相信什么样的教会。

I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute, where no Catholic prelate would tell the president, should he be Catholic, how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote.

我相信在一个政教分离的美国,没有天主教主教会告诉总统,如果他是天主教徒,该如何行动,也没有新教牧师会告诉他的教区居民该投票给谁。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: After Kennedy's election, of course, Graham wants to maintain his access to power, and in particular, to the presidency.

兰德尔·巴尔默:当然,肯尼迪当选后,格雷厄姆希望继续获得权力,特别是总统职位。

So there's a meeting that is arranged between the two of them before Kennedy even takes office.

因此,在肯尼迪就职之前,他们两人就安排了一次会面。

So Graham already is trying to make inroads into the Kennedy administration, even though he had worked very hard to derail Kennedy's election in 1960.

因此,格雷厄姆已经在试图打入肯尼迪政府,尽管他在 1960 年竭尽全力阻止肯尼迪当选。

NARRATOR

While Billy Graham pursued an insider's relationship with political power, Martin Luther King took a very different stance.

比利·格雷厄姆追求内部人士与政治权力的关系,而马丁·路德·金则采取了截然不同的立场。

King would remain the outsider, keeping his distance from the White House even as he pressured the new president to act on Civil Rights.

金仍将保持局外人的身份,与白宫保持距离,尽管他向新总统施压,要求他就民权问题采取行动。

CLAYBORNE CARSON, Historian, Stanford University: Kennedy, at this time, does not have a strong commitment to Civil Rights reform.

克莱伯恩·卡森,斯坦福大学历史学家:肯尼迪目前并没有对民权改革做出坚定的承诺。

Kennedy is concerned about the cold war and other kinds of issues.

肯尼迪关心冷战和其他类型的问题。

That's where his priority is.

这就是他的首要任务。

So he wants to keep the Civil Rights issue on the back burner.

因此,他希望将民权问题放在次要位置。

NARRATOR

In 1963, in Birmingham, Alabama, King would launch waves of protests in the hope that images of aggressive police action might arouse the conscience of the nation and its president.

1963 年,在阿拉巴马州伯明翰,金发起了一波又一波的抗议活动,希望警察激进行动的画面能够唤起国家和总统的良心。

[ newspaper headline: "Billy Graham urges restraint in sit-ins" ]

[报纸标题:“比利·格雷厄姆敦促静坐保持克制”]

NARRATOR

Billy Graham called for restraint, saying King should "put the brakes on." When King himself was arrested for marching without a permit, white religious leaders in Birmingham denounced him.

比利·格雷厄姆呼吁人们保持克制,称金应该“踩刹车”。当金本人因未经许可游行而被捕时,伯明翰的白人宗教领袖谴责了他。

FRANKLIN LAMBERT, Historian, Purdue University: Fellow men of God are calling for him to back away.

富兰克林·兰伯特,普渡大学历史学家:上帝的同胞们正在呼吁他退出。

He's creating more problems.

他正在制造更多问题。

He's disturbing the peace.

他扰乱了安宁。

He is bringing woes to the South.

他正在给南方带来灾难。

They saw that as ungodly.

他们认为这是不敬虔的。

And Martin Luther King was appalled.

马丁·路德·金感到震惊。

ANDREW YOUNG

So he started writing this letter from the Birmingham jail.

于是他在伯明翰监狱开始写这封信。

He wrote it around the margins of The New York Times, and when he ran out of space, he wrote on toilet tissue.

他把这句话写在《纽约时报》的页边空白处,当空间不够时,他就写在厕纸上。

CLAYBORNE CARSON, Stanford University: The letter itself is a response to the challenge of white ministers in Birmingham, who had said, you know, "Why are you coming?

斯坦福大学克莱伯恩·卡森:这封信本身就是对伯明翰白人部长挑战的回应,他们曾说过,你知道,“你为什么来?

Why are you causing trouble in our city?" So he has to respond to that because they're challenging him as a Christian minister and saying that, "What you're doing doesn't seem very Christian to me."

你为什么要在我们的城市制造麻烦?”所以他必须对此做出回应,因为他们正在挑战他作为基督教牧师的身份,并说,“你所做的对我来说似乎不太符合基督教精神。”

NARRATOR

In his letter, later published in The Atlantic Monthly, King said he was preaching "the gospel of freedom" and challenged the complacency of his fellow ministers.

金在后来发表在《大西洋月刊》上的信中表示,他正在传播“自由的福音”,并对其他部长的自满情绪提出了挑战。

Rev.

牧师。

RICHARD LISCHER, Duke Divinity School: He goes on to question the good faith of the religious leaders in the churches who are so critical of his movement.

理查德·利舍尔,杜克神学院:他继续质疑教会中对他的运动如此批评的宗教领袖的诚意。

He says, "I drive by their churches with their perfectly manicured front lawns, and I ask myself who is their God?"

他说:“我开车经过他们的教堂,教堂前的草坪修剪得非常完美,我问自己谁是他们的上帝?”

FRANK LAMBERT

How can someone who professes to worship a God and a savior who saw all people as being equal, who created all people equal, a Christ who died for all people- how could these servants of that God and of that Christ do anything other than join in the fight for Civil Rights?

一个自称敬拜一位上帝和救世主的人,他认为所有人都是平等的,他创造了所有人平等,一位为所有人而死的基督——这位上帝和基督的仆人除了参加争取民权的斗争之外,还能做什么呢?

NARRATOR

The Birmingham campaign grew more violent, and King's followers would find their own faith severely tested.

伯明翰战役变得更加暴力,金的追随者发现自己的信仰受到了严峻的考验。

Memories of those moments remain vivid today.

那些时刻的记忆至今仍历历在目。

ANDREW YOUNG

When we go about two blocks from the jail, the police had blocked the street with the dogs and the fire trucks.

当我们走到距离监狱大约两个街区时,警察已经用狗和消防车封锁了街道。

When we got there, they said, "You can't go to the jail." And so everybody got down on their knees and started praying.

当我们到达那里时,他们说:“你不能去监狱。”于是每个人都跪下来开始祈祷。

And when people are in that kind of situation, it's not a verbal prayer, it's more a moan.

当人们处于这种情况时,这不是口头祈祷,而是呻吟。

And when the emotional, scared, religious people start moaning, something happens.

当情绪激动、害怕、虔诚的人们开始呻吟时,就会发生一些事情。

And something happened not only to us but to the police.

不仅我们发生了事情,警察也发生了事情。

And somebody jumped up.

有人跳了起来。

A lady said, "God is with this movement.

一位女士说:“上帝与这场运动同在。

We're going on to the jail." And we started walking directly at the police and the dogs.

我们要去监狱。”然后我们开始径直走向警察和狗。

And all of a sudden, the dogs weren't barking, and we started singing, "I want Jesus to walk with me." And when you get through and you looked back, you saw all of these fire trucks blocking the street.

突然间,狗不再叫了,我们开始唱:“我要耶稣与我同行。”当你穿过去回头看时,你会看到所有这些消防车挡住了街道。

And some good little sister hollered, "Great God Almighty done parted the Red Sea one more time!"

有好心的小姐姐喊道:“伟大的全能神又把红海分开了!”

NARRATOR

But the images of Birmingham police attacking young demonstrators with dogs and fire hoses had shocked the nation and built a momentum for change that would finally lead President Kennedy to propose a landmark Civil Rights bill.

但伯明翰警察用狗和消防水龙袭击年轻示威者的画面震惊了全国,并形成了变革的势头,最终导致肯尼迪总统提出了一项具有里程碑意义的民权法案。

Pres.

新闻。

JOHN F.

约翰·F.

KENNEDY: It is better to settle these matters in the courts than on the streets.

肯尼迪:在法庭上解决这些问题比在街上解决要好。

And new laws are needed at every level.

各个层面都需要新的法律。

But law alone cannot make men see right.

但单靠法律并不能让人看到正确的事物。

We are confronted primarily with a moral issue.

我们面临的主要是道德问题。

It is as old as the Scriptures and is as clear as the American Constitution.

它与圣经一样古老,与美国宪法一样清晰。

CLAYBORNE CARSON

Kennedy says, "It's an issue as old as the Scriptures," and as old as this nation, you know, in terms of the principles underlying it.

肯尼迪说,“这是一个与圣经一样古老的问题”,就其背后的原则而言,与这个国家一样古老。

Now, that's precisely what King has been saying, is that this is an issue that has to do with basic American values that have not been realized.

现在,这正是金所说的,这是一个与尚未实现的美国基本价值观有关的问题。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Throughout American history, the main story that we've gravitated toward has been the Exodus story, a people on the march with God by their side.

纵观美国历史,我们所关注的主要故事是出埃及记的故事,一群人在上帝的陪伴下前进。

And we've told it to ourselves as Puritans coming over to New England, as Mormons heading west across the mountains.

当清教徒来到新英格兰,当摩门教徒翻山越岭向西行进时,我们就这样告诉自己。

And it was that story that really sustained the Civil Rights movement.

正是这个故事真正支撑了民权运动。

Rep.

代表。

JOHN LEWIS (D-GA), Civil Rights Leader: Slavery was our Egypt.

约翰·刘易斯(佐治亚州民主党人),民权领袖:奴隶制是我们的埃及。

Segregation was our Egypt.

种族隔离就是我们的埃及。

Discrimination was our Egypt.

歧视是我们的埃及。

And so during the height of the Civil Rights movement, it was not unusual for people to be singing, "Go down Moses, way on down in Egypt land, and tell old Pharaoh to let my people go." And people identify with that.

因此,在民权运动的鼎盛时期,人们唱着“走下摩西,走下埃及土地,告诉老法老让我的人民走”并不罕见。人们对此表示认同。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

And I think part of what gave the Civil Rights movement power was the idea that the story of the Bible didn't end when the Bible ends.

我认为赋予民权运动力量的部分原因是圣经的故事并没有随着圣经的结束而结束。

It's still going on now.

现在还在继续。

The same activity of this God who wants freedom for his creation is inspiring Martin Luther King, just as it inspired Moses.

这位为自己的创造物争取自由的上帝的同样的活动也启发了马丁·路德·金,就像它启发了摩西一样。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir.

马丁·路德·金:当我们共和国的缔造者们写下宪法和独立宣言的宏伟文字时,他们正在签署一张每个美国人都将成为继承人的期票。

NARRATOR

In his speech at the 1963 march on Washington, King assumed the mantle of an Old Testament prophet, indicting his country for failing to live up to its founding principles.

在 1963 年华盛顿游行的演讲中,金扮演了旧约先知的角色,指责他的国家未能遵守其建国原则。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."

马丁·路德·金:美国没有履行这一神圣义务,而是给了黑人一张空头支票,一张被退回的支票上标有“资金不足”。

RICHARD LISCHER

Suddenly, he turns and moves away from his manuscript, almost rolls his eyes toward the heavens and says, "But I still have a dream."

突然,他转身离开手稿,几乎翻白眼,说道:“但我还有一个梦想。”

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: I still have a dream.

马丁·路德·金:我仍然有一个梦想。

It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

这是一个深深植根于美国梦的梦想。

I have a dream.

我有一个梦想。

RICHARD LISCHER

From then, the speech takes on an entirely different character.

从那时起,演讲呈现出完全不同的特征。

The judgmental prophet, the Jeremiah, gives way to the visionary who sees a better day.

审判性的先知耶利米让位给那些看到更好的日子的有远见的人。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: When we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, Free at last!

马丁·路德·金:当我们允许自由之声响起,当我们让它从每一个村庄、每一个州和每一个城市响起时,我们将能够加速这一天的到来,届时所有上帝的孩子,黑人和白人,犹太人和外邦人,新教徒和天主教徒,将能够手拉手,唱着古老的黑人灵歌的歌词:“终于自由了!”

Free at last!

终于自由了!

Thank God Almighty, we're free at last!

感谢全能的上帝,我们终于自由了!

ANDREW YOUNG

The "I have a dream" was sort of like Lincoln's "Of the people, by the people, for the people." It was our Declaration of Independence, our declaration of freedom, and our Gettysburg address.

“我有一个梦想”有点像林肯的“民有、民治、民享”。这是我们的《独立宣言》、我们的自由宣言和我们的葛底斯堡演说。

NARRATOR

The march on Washington and the passage of Kennedy's Civil Rights bill, pushed through Congress by President Lyndon Johnson, were triumphs for the Civil Rights movement.

华盛顿游行和林登·约翰逊总统推动国会通过的肯尼迪民权法案是民权运动的胜利。

But the next year, when they pressed Johnson for new guarantees for the right to vote, they met resistance.

但第二年,当他们向约翰逊施压,要求为投票权提供新的保障时,他们遇到了阻力。

ANDREW YOUNG

Lyndon Johnson explained to us why we couldn't have a Voting Rights Act, and he was very apologetic about his powerlessness as president.

林登·约翰逊向我们解释了为什么我们不能制定投票权法案,他对自己作为总统的无能为力感到非常抱歉。

NARRATOR

The movement would once again decide to challenge the conscience of a president.

该运动将再次决定挑战总统的良心。

SELMA POLICE OFFICER

It will be detrimental to your safety to continue this march.

继续这次游行将不利于您的安全。

Go home or go to your church.

回家或者去你的教堂。

This march will not continue.

这次游行不会继续下去。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

The power of the Civil Rights movement and of King, and of the strategy of non-violent civil disobedience, was that it assumed that the opponents knew in their hearts that they were wrong.

民权运动和金的力量,以及非暴力公民不服从策略的力量,在于它假设反对者内心知道他们是错的。

And it's the sort of the God in you that knows it's wrong.

你内心的上帝知道这是错误的。

ANDREW YOUNG

The next thing you know, Lyndon Johnson was introducing a voting rights bill with the words, "And we shall overcome." And so you saw that this was a government of the people and the people had the power, not the president.

接下来你知道的是,林登·约翰逊提出了一项投票权法案,上面写着“我们将克服困难”。所以你看到这是一个人民的政府,人民拥有权力,而不是总统。

You had the feeling that you were being used by forces that you had no control over.

你有一种感觉,你正在被你无法控制的力量所利用。

And all you had to do was let go and let God.

你所要做的就是放手,让上帝去做。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: What I find remarkable about Martin Luther King is that he was willing to cooperate with politicians, most significantly with Lyndon Johnson.

兰德尔·巴尔默:我发现马丁·路德·金的非凡之处在于他愿意与政客合作,尤其是与林登·约翰逊合作。

And yet King was able to maintain his distance, his prophetic distance, from power and from the lures of power.

然而,金能够保持他的距离,他预言的距离,远离权力和权力的诱惑。

NARRATOR

King put his relationship with Johnson at risk, directly confronting the president on Vietnam.

金将他与约翰逊的关系置于危险之中,在越南问题上直接与总统对峙。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: -to oppose that abominable, evil, unjust war in Vietnam!

马丁·路德·金:——反对越南那场可憎的、邪恶的、不公正的战争!

RICHARD LISCHER

It's one thing to be a popular prophet or an inside prophet, where you have instant access to the halls of power, you can have lunch or tea with Lyndon Baines Johnson whenever it's convenient.

成为受欢迎的预言家或内部预言家是一回事,你可以立即进入权力殿堂,只要方便,你就可以与林登·贝恩斯·约翰逊共进午餐或喝茶。

But in his opposition to the war in Vietnam, he became an outside prophet, like Jeremiah throwing pebbles from the outside.

但在反对越南战争的过程中,他变成了一个外部先知,就像耶利米从外部扔石子一样。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: And don't let anybody make you think that God chose America as his divine messianic force to be a sort of policeman of the whole world.

小马丁·路德·金:不要让任何人让你认为上帝选择美国作为他神圣的弥赛亚力量,成为全世界的警察。

God has a way of standing before the nations with judgment, and seems that I can hear God saying to America, "You are too arrogant, and if you don't change your ways, I will rise up and break the backbone of your power!"

神有一种方式站在列国面前审判,我似乎能听到神对美国说:“你们太狂妄了,如果你们不改变你们的方式,我就起来打断你们的权力脊梁!”

RICHARD LISCHER

He knowingly and willingly burnt his bridges to the source of power in the United States.

他明知故犯、心甘情愿地烧毁了通往美国权力源泉的桥梁。

And he did so because, as he said, "I am a minister of the gospel, and I must tell that truth."

他这样做是因为,正如他所说,“我是福音的传道人,我必须说实话。”

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER, Barnard College/Columbia University: And I take that as an illustration of King's ability to use the political system, but not to allow himself or to allow the faith to become co-opted by politicians, to become corrupted by access to the councils of power.

兰德尔·巴尔默(Randall Balmer),巴纳德学院/哥伦比亚大学:我认为这是金利用政治制度的能力的一个例证,但他不允许自己或信仰被政客收编,因为进入权力委员会而被腐蚀。

NARRATOR

By the end of his life, Martin Luther King had fully embraced his role as political outsider and uncompromising American prophet.

在马丁·路德·金生命的最后时刻,他完全接受了自己作为政治局外人和不妥协的美国先知的角色。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: Well, I don't know what will happen now.

马丁·路德·金:嗯,我不知道现在会发生什么。

We've got some difficult days ahead.

我们接下来的日子会很艰难。

But it really doesn't matter with me now because I've been to the mountaintop.

但现在这对我来说真的不重要了,因为我已经到过山顶了。

I don't mind.

我不介意。

RICHARD LISCHER

He had never spoken with such power and never articulated this vision with such a depth of feeling as he did on the night before he died.

他从来没有像在去世前一天晚上那样以如此有力的方式说话,也从来没有以如此深刻的感情表达过这个愿景。

Rev.

牧师。

MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr.: I just want to do God's will.

马丁·路德·金:我只想遵行上帝的旨意。

And he's allowed me to go up to the mountain, and I've looked over and I've seen the promised land.

他允许我上山,我往上看,看到了应许之地。

I may not get there with you, but I want you to know tonight that we as a people will get to the promised land!

我可能无法和你们一起到达那里,但我想让你们知道今晚我们作为一个民族将会到达应许之地!

ANDREW YOUNG

His death was not the end, and his words and his spirit have moved all across the earth.

他的死并不是结束,他的话语和他的精神感动了整个地球。

It points to the fact that this is a religious universe.

它指出了这样一个事实:这是一个宗教宇宙。

Most people, particularly most educated Americans, get uncomfortable when their emotions and their spirituality get the best of their intellect.

大多数人,尤其是大多数受过教育的美国人,当他们的情感和灵性战胜了他们的智力时,都会感到不舒服。

But there are times when intellect can't handle it.

但有时智力也无法应对。

The truly religious moments in our Civil Rights movement didn't make any intellectual sense.

我们的民权运动中真正的宗教时刻没有任何理智意义。

Nobody in their right mind would do some of the things that we did, but we did it because we were caught up in a spirit.

任何心智正常的人都不会做我们所做的一些事情,但我们这样做是因为我们被一种精神所吸引。

FRANK LAMBERT

By the late '60s, religion has changed in America.

到了 60 年代末,美国的宗教发生了变化。

What we see is a movement from emphasis of personal salvation to a social gospel.

我们看到的是从强调个人救赎转向社会福音的转变。

And that comes primarily from the Civil Rights movement.

这主要来自民权运动。

They have refused to accept the gospel as simply a message of personal redemption.

他们拒绝接受福音仅仅是个人救赎的信息。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

This is a period where religion is pushing us, changing us as individuals, but also pushing us and changing us as a society.

这是一个宗教推动我们、改变我们个人的时期,同时也推动我们、改变我们作为一个社会。

The public space, the political and social space, is sort of ripe for religious harvesting.

公共空间、政治和社会空间,宗教收割的时机已经成熟。

The success of the Civil Rights movement is going to move people to say, "Let's use religion in the political space in the direction that we want to go," sort of a big, green light, in a way, to the conjoining together of religion and politics in American life.

民权运动的成功将促使人们说:“让我们在政治空间中按照我们想要的方向利用宗教”,在某种程度上,这是美国生活中宗教与政治结合的一盏大绿灯。

Episode 6: Of God and Caesar NARRATOR: As religion and politics were becoming more closely linked in the decades after World War II, one religious group stood apart.

第 6 集:上帝与凯撒 旁白:二战后的几十年里,随着宗教和政治的联系变得更加紧密,一个宗教团体脱颖而出。

They were conservative Protestants, evangelicals and fundamentalists who had felt scorned by the big city press during the infamous Scopes evolution trial.

他们是保守的新教徒、福音派和原教旨主义者,在臭名昭著的斯科普斯进化论审判期间,他们感到受到了大城市媒体的蔑视。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER, Professor of American Religious History: Ever since the Scopes trial in 1925, America's evangelicals have really retreated from the larger society.

美国宗教史教授兰德尔·巴尔默:自1925年斯科普斯审判以来,美国福音派真正退出了更大的社会。

And they constructed this vast, elaborate network of institutions to essentially protect them from the larger society.

他们构建了这个庞大而复杂的机构网络,从根本上保护他们免受更大社会的影响。

STEPHEN PROTHERO, Professor of Religion, Boston University: They're operating their own churches, mostly white, many of them in the South.

斯蒂芬·普罗瑟罗,波士顿大学宗教学教授:他们正在经营自己的教堂,其中大部分是白人,其中许多在南方。

They're operating their own Bible colleges, which are actually very important institutions where young people can go and get an education very much in the evangelical Christian idiom.

他们正在经营自己的圣经学院,这实际上是非常重要的机构,年轻人可以在那里接受福音派基督教风格的教育。

They're not seeking public power, they're seeking sort of to be left alone and to do their own thing.

他们并不是在寻求公共权力,而是在寻求不受干扰并做自己的事情。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Many evangelicals were not even registered to vote because politics is dirty and unseemly.

兰德尔·巴尔默:许多福音派人士甚至没有登记投票,因为政治是肮脏和不体面的。

"And besides, Jesus is coming back at any time to get us out of this mess, so why should we worry about the temporal order." That was a very, very real sentiment among America's evangelicals for the middle decades of the 20th century.

“而且,耶稣随时都会回来,让我们摆脱困境,所以我们为什么要担心时间顺序。”这是20世纪中叶美国福音派人士中非常非常真实的情绪。

This was an alternate universe within the larger American culture.

这是更大的美国文化中的另一个宇宙。

It was possible, and I can attest to this personally, to grow up within that world, within that subculture and have very, very little commerce with anyone outside of that world.

我可以亲自证明这一点,在那个世界、那个亚文化中长大,并且与那个世界之外的任何人有非常非常少的商业往来是可能的。

NARRATOR

One of those conservative evangelical enclaves was the Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, Virginia.

弗吉尼亚州林奇堡的托马斯路浸信会教堂就是这些保守福音派飞地之一。

Rev.

牧师。

JERRY FALWELL: Good morning.

杰里·福尔韦尔:早上好。

I'm Jerry Falwell, pastor here, and it's a real joy every Sunday morning over this station at this time to share with you our morning worship service.

我是杰里·福尔韦尔(Jerry Falwell),这里的牧师,每周日早上这个时候在这个电台与您分享我们的晨间崇拜服务真是令人高兴。

Isn't it grand to be a Christian?

成为一名基督徒不是很伟大吗?

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Jerry Falwell, throughout his career, up until the late 1970s, is resolutely apolitical.

兰德尔·巴尔默(Randall Balmer):杰里·福尔韦尔(Jerry Falwell)在他的整个职业生涯中,直到 20 世纪 70 年代末,都是坚决不关心政治的。

He delivers a famous sermon in 1965 called "Of Ministers and Marchers" in which he says it's the duty of ministers simply to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, not to become involved in Civil Rights reforms, not to become involved in anti-communism or anything else.

1965年,他发表了一篇名为“部长和游行者”的著名布道,其中他说部长的责任只是传播耶稣基督的福音,而不是参与民权改革,不参与反共产主义或其他任何事情。

NARRATOR

Falwell's associate pastor at Thomas Road Baptist was Ed Dobson.

福尔韦尔在托马斯路浸信会的副牧师是埃德·多布森。

Rev.

牧师。

ED DOBSON, Moral Majority executive, 1979-'87: Jerry Falwell was anti-political involvement at that time.

埃德·多布森 (ED DOBSON),道德多数执行官,1979-'87:杰里·福尔韦尔 (Jerry Falwell) 当时反对政治参与。

As I recall, he had spoken against Martin Luther King, Jr., and the marching, though he was against discrimination.

我记得,他曾反对马丁·路德·金和游行,尽管他反对歧视。

But he just felt that Christians had, quote, "a higher calling," and that higher calling was to preach the Bible and love people.

但他只是觉得基督徒有“更高的使命”,而这个更高的使命就是传播圣经和爱人。

Rev.

牧师。

PAT ROBERTSON, Christian Broadcasting Network: Jesus said render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God what's God's.

帕特·罗伯逊,基督教广播网:耶稣说,凯撒的物归给凯撒,上帝的物归上帝。

NARRATOR

Pat Robertson was another young conservative televangelist who had rejected political engagement.

帕特·罗伯逊是另一位拒绝政治参与的年轻保守派电视布道者。

Rev.

牧师。

PAT ROBERTSON: The big thing that we as evangelicals had to consider was our allegiance was to Jesus Christ.

帕特·罗伯逊:作为福音派人士,我们必须考虑的最重要的事情是我们对耶稣基督的效忠。

We represented eternity.

我们代表着永恒。

We weren't- we couldn't give our wholehearted allegiance to any particular political figure, however holy or righteous he might have been, because these are temporal things and we were dealing with eternal things.

我们不是——我们不能全心全意效忠任何特定的政治人物,无论他多么神圣或正义,因为这些都是暂时的事情,而我们面对的是永恒的事情。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Evangelicals saw the United States as a Christian country the United States, established by Christians as a project of God.

福音派人士将美国视为基督教国家,由基督徒作为上帝的计划而建立。

And all of a sudden, the '60s happened.

突然之间,六十年代发生了。

Rev.

牧师。

PAT ROBERTSON: The secular forces in our nation had invaded the province of the church.

帕特·罗伯逊:我们国家的世俗势力已经入侵了教会的领地。

We had the Vietnam war and the student rebellion and hippies and flower children and lots of drugs.

我们经历了越南战争、学生叛乱、嬉皮士、花童和大量毒品。

And so what the evangelicals were essentially saying, "We don't want you imposing your values on us.

所以福音派本质上是在说:“我们不希望你把你的价值观强加给我们。

We don't want you taking our children away from us and imposing on them a secular worldview that is contrary to what we believe as Christians."

我们不希望你们把我们的孩子从我们身边带走,并将与我们作为基督徒所信仰的相反的世俗世界观强加给他们。”

NARRATOR

The threat of a more secular America would eventually drive conservative evangelicals out of their isolation and back into politics.

美国更加世俗化的威胁最终将迫使保守派福音派人士摆脱孤立,重返政坛。

The intellectual catalyst for that change was Francis Schaeffer, an American fundamentalist theologian working in Switzerland.

这一变化的思想催化剂是弗朗西斯·谢弗(Francis Schaeffer),一位在瑞士工作的美国原教旨主义神学家。

FRANK SCHAEFFER, Francis Schaeffer's Son: Dad was a pastor, had pastorate of several small churches in the States, and really was a very obscure, marginal figure.

弗兰克·谢弗(Frank Schaeffer),弗朗西斯·谢弗的儿子:父亲是一名牧师,曾在美国担任过几个小教堂的牧师,实际上是一个非常默默无闻的边缘人物。

No one knew about him.

没有人知道他的事。

He was just another guy going off to Europe, in his case, to work with young people, and founded L'Abri Fellowship at a little chalet on the edge of the Swiss Alps.

对他来说,他只是另一个去欧洲与年轻人一起工作的人,并在瑞士阿尔卑斯山边缘的一座小木屋里创立了 L'Abri Fellowship。

And essentially, the mission was a place that opened the doors to young people who would come through and ask this American pastor questions about meaning and faith and the Bible and all these things.

从本质上讲,宣教中心是一个向年轻人敞开大门的地方,他们可以向这位美国牧师询问关于意义、信仰、圣经以及所有这些事情的问题。

And then it grew from there, until Dad was an internationally known evangelical leader and writing books.

然后它从那里开始发展,直到爸爸成为国际知名的福音派领袖并写书。

And I would look across the dining table and see Billy Graham, or you know, Gerald Ford's kids, or whoever it might be.

我会透过餐桌看到比利·格雷厄姆,或者你知道的,杰拉尔德·福特的孩子们,或者无论是谁。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Francis Schaeffer was this kind of funny-looking guy with long hair and a goatee and wearing knickers and kneesocks, and so forth.

兰德尔·巴尔默:弗朗西斯·谢弗是个长相滑稽的家伙,留着长发,留着山羊胡,穿着内裤和及膝袜等等。

And he was for many evangelicals, especially the younger generation, kind of the embodiment of the counterculture.

对于许多福音派人士,尤其是年轻一代来说,他是反主流文化的化身。

When I was in college at an evangelical school in the early 1970s, Francis Schaeffer's works were kind of all the rage.

20 世纪 70 年代初,当我在一所福音派学校上大学时,弗朗西斯·谢弗 (Francis Schaeffer) 的作品风靡一时。

And he would visit occasionally these various schools and give lectures, speak in chapel, and so forth.

他偶尔会访问这些不同的学校并发表演讲,在教堂演讲等等。

Rev.

牧师。

FRANCIS SCHAEFFER: Christianity is intellectually viable.

弗朗西斯·谢弗:基督教在理智上是可行的。

Christianity is intellectually salable to our generation.

基督教在智力上对我们这一代人来说很畅销。

Christianity covers the whole spectrum of life.

基督教涵盖了生活的各个方面。

You need never be ashamed of it.

你永远不需要为此感到羞耻。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Schaeffer discovers that he'd really garnered quite an audience among American evangelicals, and he begins to try to propagate his ideas a little bit further.

兰德尔·巴尔默:谢弗发现他在美国福音派中确实赢得了相当多的听众,他开始尝试进一步传播他的想法。

With his son Frank, they produce a couple of film series, shown particularly with evangelical audiences.

他们与他的儿子弗兰克一起制作了几部电影系列,特别向福音派观众放映。

And his foil was always secular humanism.

而他的陪衬始终是世俗的人文主义。

Rev.

牧师。

FRANCIS SCHAEFFER: The consensus of our society no longer rests upon a Christian basis but upon a humanistic one.

弗朗西斯·谢弗:我们社会的共识不再建立在基督教的基础上,而是建立在人文主义的基础上。

Humanism is man putting himself at the center of all things, rather than the creator God.

人文主义是人把自己置于万物的中心,而不是创造者上帝。

Having rejected God, the humanist-

拒绝了上帝之后,人文主义者——

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Once you surrender to humanism, he would argue, then all values in society would be up for grabs and we'd have moral decay.

兰德尔·巴尔默:他认为,一旦你屈服于人道主义,那么社会中的所有价值观都将变得可供争夺,我们的道德就会衰退。

NARRATOR

The event that would propel Schaeffer and evangelicals into political action was the 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion.

推动谢弗和福音派采取政治行动的事件是 1973 年最高法院关于堕胎合法化的裁决。

But at first, it was the Catholic church that led the opposition.

但一开始,领导反对派的是天主教会。

AMY SULLIVAN, Time Magazine: It was Catholic leaders more than evangelical leaders at the beginning who were most concerned about Roe v.

艾米·沙利文,时代杂志:一开始,天主教领袖比福音派领袖最关心罗伊诉案件。

Wade.

韦德。

In fact, Pat Robertson kind of famously said after the decision was issued that it wasn't necessarily a big concern of his.

事实上,帕特·罗伯逊(Pat Robertson)在决定发布后曾说过一句名言:这不一定是他的大问题。

And there were Southern Baptist leaders who said that they didn't necessarily have a problem with the decision.

有美南浸信会领袖表示,他们不一定对这一决定有意见。

NARRATOR

Francis Schaeffer also resisted taking up the cause until, his son says, he persuaded his father to join the fight.

弗朗西斯·谢弗也拒绝参与这一事业,直到他的儿子说,他说服了父亲加入战斗。

FRANK SCHAEFFER

I said to Dad, "Let's really make a stand on it, like the Roman Catholics are doing, and really get out there and tell people we've got to do something about it." That was the beginning.

我对爸爸说:“让我们真正表明立场,就像罗马天主教徒正在做的那样,真正走出去,告诉人们我们必须为此做点什么。”这就是开始。

NARRATOR

In his next film series, Schaeffer joined the abortion resistance with a direct call to evangelicals to get back into politics.

在他的下一个电影系列中,谢弗加入了堕胎抵抗运动,直接呼吁福音派重返政坛。

Rev.

牧师。

FRANCIS SCHAEFFER: If in these last decades of the 20th century the Christian community does not make a determined stand on the issue of each individual to have a right to live and a right to be treated as made in the image of God, rather than as a machine, I believe we have failed in the greatest moral challenge of this century.

弗朗西斯·谢弗:如果在 20 世纪的最后几十年里,基督教界没有在每个人的生存权和被视为按照上帝形象而不是机器而被对待的权利问题上采取坚定的立场,我相信我们在本世纪最大的道德挑战中失败了。

The choice is yours to make.

选择权在于您。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Francis Schaeffer makes the case that not only should evangelicals consider entering into the political arena, but they have an obligation to do so.

兰德尔·巴尔默:弗朗西斯·谢弗认为,福音派不仅应该考虑进入政治舞台,而且他们有义务这样做。

FRANK SCHAEFER

Dad is the one who talked Jerry Falwell personally into taking a stand on abortion.

父亲亲自说服杰里·福尔韦尔在堕胎问题上表明立场。

Before that, Jerry Falwell said, "That's a Catholic Issue.

在此之前,杰里·福尔韦尔说:“这是一个天主教问题。

It's nothing to do with us.

这与我们无关。

Why would I want to take a stand on that?

我为什么要对此表明立场?

I'm just a preacher.

我只是一个传教士。

I want to talk about the gospel."

我想谈谈福音。”

Rev.

牧师。

JERRY FALWELL: Abortion is not a Roman Catholic issue, it is a moral issue.

杰里·福尔韦尔:堕胎不是罗马天主教问题,而是道德问题。

NARRATOR

In 1978, Falwell delivered his first sermon condemning abortion.

1978年,福尔韦尔发表了他的第一次布道谴责堕胎。

Rev.

牧师。

JERRY FALWELL: -an issue that concerns the human rights of unborn babies who by the hundreds of thousands are being murdered in these United States of America.

杰里·福尔韦尔:这个问题涉及未出生婴儿的人权,在美利坚合众国,数十万婴儿被谋杀。

NARRATOR

In Washington, Francis Schaeffer brought his anti-abortion message to conservative Republican leaders.

在华盛顿,弗朗西斯·谢弗向保守的共和党领导人传达了他的反堕胎信息。

FRANK SCHAEFFER

Dad was very persuasive, and the word began to spread.

爸爸很有说服力,这个消息开始传开。

But then we also made some converts to our cause who were in positions of influence- for instance, Congressman Jack Kemp, who then invited us back to the Republican Club in an evening hosted by him and Bob Dole.

但后来我们也让一些有影响力的人皈依了我们的事业——例如,国会议员杰克·坎普(Jack Kemp),他随后在他和鲍勃·多尔(Bob Dole)主持的晚会上邀请我们回到共和党俱乐部。

And then soon after that, Dad met with Ronald Reagan and talked about this.

不久之后,爸爸会见了罗纳德·里根并谈到了这件事。

They began to see it as a way to win elections.

他们开始将其视为赢得选举的一种方式。

We began to see winning elections as a way to make our country a better moral place.

我们开始将赢得选举视为让我们的国家变得更道德的一种方式。

E.J.

E.J.

DIONNE, The Washington Post: A lot of smart conservatives realized that with the rise of issues like abortion and school prayer, there were all these evangelical Christians kind of on the loose in politics.

迪翁,《华盛顿邮报》:许多聪明的保守派意识到,随着堕胎和学校祈祷等问题的兴起,所有这些福音派基督徒都在政治上逍遥法外。

They were historically Democratic, a lot of them, but a lot of them were quite conservative.

他们中的很多人在历史上都是民主党人,但其中很多人相当保守。

And so they set out to organize them.

于是他们开始组织起来。

And they found Jerry Falwell.

他们找到了杰里·福尔韦尔。

NARRATOR

In the summer of 1979, Falwell, at the urging of conservative operatives, launched a political organization he called the Moral Majority to bring evangelicals back into national politics.

1979 年夏天,福尔韦尔在保守派人士的敦促下,成立了一个他称之为道德多数派的政治组织,以将福音派带回国家政治。

Rev.

牧师。

ED DOBSON, Moral Majority Executive 1979-'87: We were desperate to have our voice heard and concluded that one way to get it heard was to register a bunch of people who had never registered and encourage them to vote.

埃德·多布森 (ED DOBSON),道德多数执行官 1979-'87:我们迫切希望让人们听到我们的声音,并得出结论,让人们听到我们的声音的一种方法是登记一群从未登记的人并鼓励他们投票。

The idea was we need to, quote, "save the country."

我们的想法是我们需要“拯救国家”。

Rev.

牧师。

JERRY FALWELL: I'd like to say there is no Bible Belt in America.

杰里·福尔韦尔:我想说美国没有圣经带。

There's a Bible cloak in America that covers the whole blooming republic, and they're everywhere ready for the leadership preachers that you and I can offer them, and let's give it to them!

在美国,有一件圣经斗篷覆盖了整个蓬勃发展的共和国,他们到处都准备好了你我可以为他们提供的领导力传教士,让我们把它给他们!

NARRATOR

In only a year, Moral Majority had organized in 47 states, aiming to mobilize 10 million evangelical voters for the next election.

仅一年时间,道德多数派就在 47 个州组织起来,旨在动员 1000 万福音派选民参加下一次选举。

In his 1980 campaign, Ronald Reagan set out to capture their votes.

在 1980 年的竞选活动中,罗纳德·里根着手争取他们的选票。

E.J. DIONNE

You know, it's fascinating because Reagan was not particularly church-going himself.

你知道,这很有趣,因为里根本人并不特别去教堂。

But I think as a very smart politician, he understood this movement as having great potential.

但我认为作为一个非常聪明的政治家,他明白这场运动具有巨大的潜力。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

That's what's funny about Reagan.

这就是里根的有趣之处。

You have these sort of great champions of religion in American life, like Dwight Eisenhower, you know, who really is seen as a big figure behind the religious revival of the 1950s, and Reagan behind this political push in the 1980s.

美国生活中有这样一些伟大的宗教拥护者,比如德怀特·艾森豪威尔,你知道,他确实被视为 20 世纪 50 年代宗教复兴背后的重要人物,而里根则是 1980 年代政治推动的幕后黑手。

But neither was particularly religious.

但两人都不是特别虔诚。

NARRATOR

During the campaign, Reagan arranged to speak at an evangelical convention, where he made a dramatic gesture.

竞选期间,里根安排在福音派大会上发表讲话,并在大会上做出了戏剧性的举动。

RONALD REAGAN, Presidential Candidate: Now, I know this is a non-partisan gathering, and so I know that you can't endorse me.

罗纳德·里根,总统候选人:现在,我知道这是一次无党派聚会,所以我知道你不能支持我。

But I only brought that up because I want you to know that I endorse you and what you're doing.

但我提出这一点只是因为我想让你知道我支持你和你所做的事情。

Rev.

牧师。

ED DOBSON: We had been on the fringes of the culture.

埃德·多布森:我们一直处于文化的边缘。

Evangelicals were considered obscurantist, sweat-drenched Appalachian hillbillies.

福音派人士被认为是蒙昧无知、汗流浃背的阿巴拉契亚乡下人。

And for someone running for president to affirm us was very significant.

对于竞选总统的人来说,对我们的肯定是非常重要的。

I think evangelicals, once that was said, lined up behind Reagan en masse.

我认为福音派人士一旦这么说,就会集体站在里根身后。

PRAYER

-going to put this man into office because he says all this in Jesus' name.

-要让这个人就职,因为他奉耶稣的名说了这一切。

Amen.

阿门。

ROBERT SHRUM, Democratic Political Strategist: Reagan- embracing the Christian right helped him immensely in 1980 against Carter.

罗伯特·施鲁姆(ROBERT SHRUM),民主党政治战略家:里根拥抱基督教右翼对他在 1980 年对抗卡特有很大帮助。

I mean, look, the economy was in terrible shape.

我的意思是,看,经济状况很糟糕。

The hostages were in Iran.

人质在伊朗。

Carter was going to lose.

卡特注定会输。

But this was a piece that came into the Reagan coalition and helped turn that election into a virtual landslide.

但这是里根联盟的一个部分,并帮助那次选举变成了实质上的压倒性胜利。

Pres.

新闻。

RONALD REAGAN: -preserve, protect and defend-

罗纳德·里根:-保存、保护和捍卫-

WARREN BURGER, Chief Justice: -the Constitution of the United States-

沃伦·伯格,首席大法官:-美国宪法-

Pres.

新闻。

RONALD REAGAN: -the Constitution of the United States-

罗纳德·里根:-美国宪法-

Chief Justice WARREN BURGER: -so help me God.

首席大法官沃伦·伯格:-请上帝帮助我。

Chief Justice WARREN BURGER: May I congratulate you, sir.

首席大法官沃伦·伯格:先生,我谨向您表示祝贺。

Rev.

牧师。

ED DOBSON: I remember when Ronald Reagan became president.

埃德·多布森:我记得罗纳德·里根就任总统时。

And that afternoon, I noticed Falwell all alone and he was listening to the radio.

那天下午,我注意到福尔韦尔独自一人,他正在听广播。

And he kept saying, "I can't believe it.

他一直说:“我简直不敢相信。

They're giving us credit for electing Ronald Reagan." And I think he was partly shocked and partly thrilled.

他们对我们选举罗纳德·里根表示赞赏。”我认为他一半是震惊,一半是兴奋。

NARRATOR

In Reagan's Washington, one of the key lobbyists for the evangelical movement was Richard Cizik.

在里根领导下的华盛顿,福音派运动的主要游说者之一是理查德·西齐克(Richard Cizik)。

Rev.

牧师。

RICHARD CIZIK, National Evangelical Assn., 1980-2008: What I had previously seen as the irrelevance of American evangelicals all of a sudden turned, and they became relevant.

RICHARD CIZIK,全国福音派协会,1980-2008:我之前认为美国福音派无关紧要的事情突然发生了转变,它们变得相关了。

These folk, who had previously considered politics dirty and not worth soiling their hands over, moved into the center of the debate.

这些以前认为政治肮脏、不值得动手的人,现在成了辩论的中心。

Pres.

新闻。

RONALD REAGAN: Let me thank you, first of all, for that ad.

罗纳德·里根:首先,我要感谢你的广告。

But more than that, I know what you've been doing yourself on the radio and everything else in support of us, and I really want to tell you how grateful I am.

但更重要的是,我知道您在广播中所做的事情以及支持我们的其他一切,我真的想告诉您我是多么感激。

NARRATOR

To the evangelicals, Reagan seemed ready to put their social agenda into action.

对于福音派来说,里根似乎已经准备好将他们的社会议程付诸行动。

Pres.

新闻。

RONALD REAGAN: Our positive stance on family and children is consistent with our heartfelt convictions on the issue of abortion.

罗纳德·里根:我们对家庭和儿童的积极立场与我们对堕胎问题的衷心信念是一致的。

Here again, we are not jut against an evil.

再次强调,我们并不是在反对邪恶。

We are not just anti-abortion.

我们不仅仅是反对堕胎。

We are pro-life.

我们是反堕胎者。

In the meantime, we in government will see to it that not one tax dollar goes to encouraging any woman to snuff out the life of her unborn child.

与此同时,我们政府将确保没有一分钱用于鼓励任何妇女扼杀未出生孩子的生命。

NARRATOR

In the campaign, Reagan had advocated a constitutional amendment banning abortion.

里根在竞选中主张禁止堕胎的宪法修正案。

And in office, he proposed an amendment to reinstate prayer in public schools.

在任期间,他提出了一项修正案,恢复公立学校的祈祷活动。

Rev.

牧师。

JERRY FALWELL: The president just gave to us the final wording of the constitutional amendment regarding voluntary prayer in public schools.

杰里·福尔韦尔:总统刚刚向我们提供了关于公立学校自愿祈祷的宪法修正案的最终措辞。

Pres.

新闻。

RONALD REAGAN: No one will ever convince me that a moment of voluntary payer will harm a child or threaten a school or a state.

罗纳德·里根:没有人能让我相信,自愿付款的时刻会伤害儿童或威胁学校或国家。

But I think it can strengthen our faith in a creator who alone has the power to bless America.

但我认为它可以增强我们对造物主的信心,只有造物主才有能力祝福美国。

Rev.

牧师。

JERRY FALWELL: I don't know what a human being could do more rapidly and more intelligently and more accurately, and in keeping with his promises, than Ronald Reagan has done.

杰里·福尔韦尔:我不知道人类能比罗纳德·里根做得更快、更聪明、更准确,并遵守他的承诺。

I give him A-plus on everything.

我每件事都给他 A+。

Rev.

牧师。

RICHARD CIZIK: And it was heady stuff.

RICHARD CIZIK:这是令人兴奋的事情。

I attended those Rose Garden meetings with the president and the briefings in the White House and the rest and saw how the evangelicals had soaked up their newfound relevance.

我参加了与总统在玫瑰园举行的会议以及在白宫和其他地方举行的简报会,看到了福音派如何吸收了他们新发现的相关性。

Unfortunately, with it came the arrogance that "We're right and everybody else is wrong."

不幸的是,随之而来的是“我们是对的,其他人都是错的”的傲慢。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: I think a lot of Americans coming out of the 1980 election were wondering what had happened.

兰德尔·巴尔默:我认为许多美国人在 1980 年大选后都想知道发生了什么。

Here you have this new political force that is making itself felt in American society, in American politics, and so Americans generally were quite anxious about what was going on with the religious right.

这股新的政治力量正在美国社会、美国政治中显现,因此美国人普遍对宗教右翼的情况感到非常焦虑。

NARRATOR

In 1983, Senator Ted Kennedy came to Jerry Falwell's Liberty Baptist College to articulate that anxiety and to caution evangelicals about the dangers of allowing religious faith to dictate the actions of government.

1983 年,参议员特德·肯尼迪 (Ted Kennedy) 来到杰里·福尔韦尔 (Jerry Falwell) 的自由浸信会学院 (Liberty Baptist College),表达了这种焦虑,并警告福音派人士注意让宗教信仰支配政府行为的危险。

Sen.

参议员。

TED KENNEDY (D), Massachusetts: The separation of church and state can sometimes be frustrating for women and men of religious faith.

泰德·肯尼迪(D),马萨诸塞州:教会与国家的分离有时会让有宗教信仰的女性和男性感到沮丧。

They may be tempted to misuse government in order to impose a value which they cannot persuade others to accept.

他们可能会试图滥用政府来强加一种他们无法说服他人接受的价值观。

But once we succumb to that temptation, we step onto a slippery slope where everyone's freedom is at risk.

但一旦我们屈服于这种诱惑,我们就会走上滑坡,每个人的自由都受到威胁。

ROBERT SHRUM

I went with Ted Kennedy to Liberty Baptist, and the argument he made there was, number one, that you could not in essence excommunicate people from the public dialogue because you disagreed with them on the basis of religion.

我和特德·肯尼迪一起去了自由浸信会,他在那里提出的第一点论点是,你本质上不能因为你在宗教基础上不同意人们的观点而将他们逐出公开对话。

And number two, that you couldn't take every tenet of your religion, or even major tenets of your religion, and necessarily demand that they be written into public law, especially when there was no consensus about that.

第二,你不能接受你的宗教的每一个信条,甚至你的宗教的主要信条,并必然要求将它们写入公法,特别是在对此没有达成共识的情况下。

NARRATOR

The same year Senator Kennedy warned evangelicals, President Reagan seemed to tighten his rhetorical embrace of them.

同年,肯尼迪参议员警告福音派人士,里根总统似乎在言辞上加强了对他们的支持。

Pres.

新闻。

RONALD REAGAN: In the book of John is the promise we all go by, tells us that for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

罗纳德·里根:《约翰福音》中有一个我们都遵循的应许,告诉我们上帝如此爱世人,甚至将他的独生子赐给他们,叫一切信他的,不至灭亡,反得永生。

With his message and with your conviction and commitment, we can still move mountains.

有了他的信息以及你们的信念和承诺,我们仍然可以移山。

We can work to reach our dreams and make to America a shining city on a hill.

我们可以努力实现我们的梦想,让美国成为一座闪亮的山上之城。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

With this "shining city on a hill," Reagan is really going back to the very origins of American colonialism, the British colonies, and this sermon on the Arabella that was given by the first governor of Massachusetts, where he said America will be a city on a hill.

凭借这座“山上的闪亮城市”,里根真正回到了美国殖民主义、英国殖民地的起源,以及马萨诸塞州第一任州长在阿拉贝拉发表的布道,他说美国将成为一座山上的城市。

We're going to be this place that, across from Europe, they will look and they will see, "Yeah, that's how we want our society to be."

我们将成为这样一个地方,在欧洲对面,他们会看到,“是的,这就是我们希望我们的社会成为的样子。”

And Reagan picked up on that.

里根也注意到了这一点。

And with his great sort of California, American optimistic ebullience, he added the word "shining," shining city on a hill.

他带着加州式的、美国式的乐观热情,加上了“闪耀”这个词,指山上的城市闪闪发光。

We won't just be the city on a hill, but we'll be the shining city on the hill.

我们将不仅仅是山上的城市,而且我们将成为山上闪亮的城市。

And so in that rhetoric, you get the sense of sort of religion, Bible, Puritans, tradition, that this is a religious place.

因此,在这种言辞中,你会感受到某种宗教、圣经、清教徒、传统的感觉,这是一个宗教场所。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Reagan was a master of political symbolism.

兰德尔·巴尔默:里根是一位政治象征主义大师。

So when Falwell hears "city on a hill," what he hears is that this is going to be a Christian nation.

因此,当福尔韦尔听到“山上的城市”时,他听到的是这将是一个基督教国家。

We're going to try to propagate this Christian vision of politics and religion not only in America, but more broadly throughout the world.

我们将不仅在美国,而且在全世界更广泛地传播基督教的政治和宗教愿景。

NARRATOR

Evangelicals felt empowered by the support of the Reagan administration, and they intensified their critique of what they saw as moral decay in American society.

福音派人士感到里根政府的支持赋予了他们力量,他们加强了对美国社会道德败坏的批评。

Rev.

牧师。

JAMES ROBISON, Televangelist: After all, if we can just keep getting more of our men to have sex with more men, we won't have to worry about babies being born!

詹姆斯·罗宾逊,电视布道者:毕竟,如果我们能够继续让更多的男人与更多的男人发生性关系,我们就不必担心婴儿的出生!

And if we can just get more women to get out there in the marketplace and start acting like men, and if we can just get other women to look at motherhood as though it is some dread terminal illness, if we can just get society so drunk and so drugged, if ever anybody does get pregnant, then we can abort the baby!

如果我们能让更多的女性进入市场,开始像男人一样行事,如果我们能让其他女性将母性视为某种可怕的绝症,如果我们能让社会如此醉酒并如此下药,如果有人怀孕了,那么我们就可以堕胎!

That's where we are!

这就是我们的处境!

NARRATOR

But other American evangelicals thought that the religious right had it wrong.

但其他美国福音派人士认为宗教右翼的做法是错误的。

Rev.

牧师。

JIM WALLIS, Founder, Sojourners: The evangelical movement has been hijacked by a cabal of television preachers and far-right political operatives in a right-wing political cause that bears no resemblance to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

寄居者组织创始人吉姆·沃利斯:福音派运动被一群电视传教士和极右翼政治人物劫持,他们的右翼政治事业与耶稣基督的福音毫无相似之处。

Let's take it back.

让我们收回它。

NARRATOR

Rev.

牧师。

Jim Wallis had created a liberal evangelical movement focused on issues of peace and social justice.

吉姆·沃利斯创建了一场专注于和平与社会正义问题的自由福音派运动。

Rev.

牧师。

JIM WALLIS: People felt like the religious right had just taken over the country.

吉姆·沃利斯:人们感觉宗教右翼刚刚接管了这个国家。

And this is so political and so partisan and it is so much aimed at gaining political power, a lot of folks were saying, "Wait a minute.

这是如此政治性和党派性,其目的是如此之大,目的是获得政治权力,很多人都说,“等一下。

I'm a person of faith, too, and they don't speak for me."

我也是一个有信仰的人,他们不代表我说话。”

PROTESTERS

Moral Majority, we say no!

道德多数,我们说不!

Right wing has got to go!

右翼必须下台!

NARRATOR

As the religious right seemed at the height of its power, their heated rhetoric and a series of scandals involving prominent televangelists set off a backlash.

当宗教右翼似乎处于其权力的顶峰时,他们的激烈言论和涉及著名电视布道者的一系列丑闻引发了强烈反对。

PROTESTERS

Falwell is America's ayatollah!

福尔韦尔是美国的阿亚图拉!

Rev.

牧师。

JERRY FALWELL: You say, "Well, I believe in freedom of choice." I do, too, but you ought to make the choice before you get in bed.

杰里·福尔韦尔:你说,“嗯,我相信选择的自由。”我也这样做,但你应该在上床睡觉之前做出选择。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Jerry Falwell thrived on being disliked to some degree.

兰德尔·巴尔默:杰里·福尔韦尔在某种程度上因不受欢迎而茁壮成长。

I think he enjoyed that sort of thing.

我想他很喜欢这样的事情。

He liked being at the center of controversy, and he knew how to stir it up.

他喜欢成为争议的中心,并且知道如何煽动争议。

NARRATOR

By the late 1980s, Jerry Falwell's crusade was faltering.

到了 20 世纪 80 年代末,杰里·福尔韦尔 (Jerry Falwell) 的十字军东征已经摇摇欲坠。

Public opinion polls showed that his popularity had fallen dramatically.

民意调查显示,他的支持率大幅下降。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: And you'll find Reagan late in his administration trying to put some distance between himself and Falwell, and some of the other leaders of the religious right, because some of the things that they had done didn't look very good in the eyes of many Americans.

兰德尔·巴尔默:你会发现里根在执政后期试图在自己和福尔韦尔以及其他一些宗教右翼领导人之间保持一定的距离,因为他们所做的一些事情在许多美国人眼中看起来不太好。

NARRATOR

And many evangelicals felt let down by President Reagan, believing he had never used his full political clout to push their social agenda.

许多福音派人士对里根总统感到失望,认为他从未充分利用自己的政治影响力来推动他们的社会议程。

Rev.

牧师。

RICHARD CIZIK: Ronald Reagan knew how to please evangelicals without giving them anything in return.

理查德·西齐克:罗纳德·里根知道如何取悦福音派人士而不给他们任何回报。

Major constitutional amendments went nowhere.

重大宪法修正案毫无进展。

And the White House gave lip service to these.

白宫也口头上承认了这些。

I know.

我知道。

I heard the lip service all the time.

我一直听到口头上的服务。

But not really.

但事实并非如此。

They wouldn't spend the president's capital to go to Capitol Hill and lobby legislators on behalf of these ideas, not really.

他们不会花总统的钱去国会山代表这些想法游说立法者,不是真的。

Rev.

牧师。

ED DOBSON: What did Reagan do for us in eight years of office?

埃德·多布森:里根在八年的任期内为我们做了什么?

He gave us credibility, and he ultimately did nothing in terms of our long-term agendas.

他给了我们信誉,但最终他对我们的长期议程没有采取任何行动。

NARRATOR

In the wake of the Reagan years, Jerry Falwell would disband the Moral Majority.

在里根时代之后,杰里·福尔韦尔解散了道德多数派。

Rev.

牧师。

JERRY FALWELL: I will not be stumping for candidates again.

杰里·福尔韦尔:我不会再为候选人做辩论了。

I will never work for a candidate as I did for Ronald Reagan.

我永远不会像为罗纳德·里根那样为候选人工作。

I am now rededicating my life to the preaching of the Gospel.

我现在将我的一生重新奉献给福音的传播。

NARRATOR

The torch of evangelical political engagement was picked up by Pat Robertson.

福音派政治参与的火炬由帕特·罗伯逊(Pat Robertson)接过。

His Christian Coalition took a different course, focusing not on presidential politics but on organizing evangelicals at the grass roots level.

他的基督教联盟采取了不同的路线,不关注总统政治,而是在基层组织福音派。

Robertson installed Ralph Reed, a young political operative, to lead the effort.

罗伯逊任命年轻的政治人物拉尔夫·里德(Ralph Reed)来领导这项工作。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Reed's approach to political activism, unlike that of Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority, was to work from the level of school board elections, the so-called stealth candidates who would be typically members of an evangelical congregation or a mega-church, or something of that sort, and rely on the votes from the evangelical grass roots.

兰德尔·巴尔默:里德的政治激进主义方法与杰里·福尔韦尔和道德多数派不同,是从学校董事会选举的层面开始工作,即所谓的隐形候选人,他们通常是福音派会众或大型教会或类似机构的成员,并依赖来自福音派草根的选票。

PHONE BANK CALLER

Hello, Mr. Glasson.

你好,格拉森先生。

My name is Jackie, and I am with Christian Coalition, calling to thank you so much for all you've done for us and to let you know that Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed really appreciate you.

我叫杰基,我是基督教联盟的成员,我打电话是为了感谢您为我们所做的一切,并让您知道帕特·罗伯逊和拉尔夫·里德非常感谢您。

RALPH REED, Exec.

拉尔夫·里德,执行官

Dir., Christian Coalition, 1989-'97: Religiously devout Christians are somewhere between 25 and 30 percent of the electorate.

基督教联盟总监,1989-'97:虔诚的基督徒占选民的 25% 到 30%。

And I thought if we could figure out a way, by organizing them and mobilizing them and training them and deploying them and activating them, so that their influence and effectiveness was even proportional to their numbers, we would transform American politics.

我想,如果我们能找到一种方法,通过组织他们、动员他们、训练他们、部署他们、激活他们,使他们的影响力和效力与他们的人数成正比,我们就能改变美国政治。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: It was very effective.

兰德尔·巴尔默:非常有效。

Thousands of school boards across the country had conservative fundamentalist religious right majorities in the 1990s because of Ralph Reed and Christian Coalition.

20 世纪 90 年代,由于拉尔夫·里德 (Ralph Reed) 和基督教联盟 (Christian Coalition) 的影响,全国数千个学校董事会中保守的原教旨主义宗教右翼占多数。

NARRATOR

In 2000, the presidential campaign brought evangelicals new hope for success in national politics.

2000年,总统竞选给福音派带来了在国家政治中取得成功的新希望。

AMY SULLIVAN, Time Magazine: For many Evangelical voters, George W.

艾米·苏利文,《时代》杂志:对于许多福音派选民来说,乔治·W·布什 (George W.

Bush was the candidate they had been waiting for, in that he brought together the right conservative stance on issues that mattered to them, but he also had the evangelical identity.

布什是他们一直在等待的候选人,因为他在对他们来说重要的问题上汇集了正确的保守派立场,但他也拥有福音派身份。

Gov.

政府。

GEORGE W.

乔治·W.

BUSH, Presidential Candidate: When you turn your heart and your life over to Christ, accept Christ as a savior, it changes your heart.

布什,总统候选人:当你把你的心和你的生命交给基督,接受基督作为救世主时,你的心就会改变。

It changes your life.

它改变你的生活。

And that's what happened to me.

这就是发生在我身上的事情。

AMY SULLIVAN

And so instead of having another Ronald Reagan, for example, who was a conservative but not necessarily personally religious, they finally had somebody who could share their identity and could share their politics.

因此,他们终于有了一个可以分享他们的身份、分享他们的政治观点的人,而不是另一个罗纳德·里根(Ronald Reagan),他是一个保守派但不一定有个人宗教信仰。

Rev.

牧师。

PAT ROBERTSON: With the election of George Bush, it was assumed that we had accomplished our goals.

帕特·罗伯逊:随着乔治·布什当选,人们认为我们已经实现了我们的目标。

And once an evangelical is in that power, he has the ability then to call the shots.

一旦福音派拥有这种权力,他就有能力发号施令。

NARRATOR

As conservative evangelicals savored political victory, the country's religious landscape was shifting.

当保守福音派享受政治胜利时,该国的宗教格局正在发生变化。

The wide-open American religious marketplace was undergoing dramatic changes, changes that would carry political implications.

开放的美国宗教市场正在经历巨大的变化,这些变化将带来政治影响。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: What's particularly striking to me over the last 30, 40 years is that since changes to the immigration laws of 1965, the religious landscape of North America has quite literally been transformed.

兰德尔·巴尔默(Randall Balmer):过去 30、40 年对我来说特别引人注目的是,自 1965 年移民法修改以来,北美的宗教格局发生了彻底的改变。

There are Sikh gurdwaras and Muslim mosques and Hindu temples in places that I never thought possible.

在我从未想过的地方有锡克教谒师所、穆斯林清真寺和印度教寺庙。

NARRATOR

No place in the country had changed more than Los Angeles, which five decades earlier had ignited Billy Graham's evangelical career.

这个国家没有一个地方比洛杉矶变化更大,五十年前,洛杉矶点燃了比利·格雷厄姆的福音派事业。

PHILIP GOFF, Dir., Ctr.

菲利普·高夫 (PHILIP GOFF),中心主任

for Study of Religion and American Culture: In 1949, it was a city which was still dominated by white Protestants.

宗教与美国文化研究:1949 年,这是一座仍以白人新教徒为主的城市。

Los Angeles today is the most religiously diverse city in the world.

今天的洛杉矶是世界上宗教最多元化的城市。

It's also the most ethnically diverse city in the world.

它也是世界上种族最多元化的城市。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

Los Angeles is amazing in terms of religious choice.

洛杉矶在宗教选择方面令人惊叹。

L.A.

洛杉矶

has hundreds of different Buddhist options, dozens of Hindu temples, all sorts of different forms of Catholicism and Protestantism.

有数百种不同的佛教选择,数十座印度教寺庙,各种不同形式的天主教和新教。

NARRATOR

By 2000, in Los Angeles County alone, more than a million people were members of non-Christian faiths, and the metropolitan area was home to hundreds of their houses of worship.

到 2000 年,仅在洛杉矶县就有超过 100 万人是非基督教信仰成员,大都市区拥有数百座非基督教礼拜堂。

Imam MUZAMMIL SIDDIQI, Dir., Islamic Society of Orange County: Now the community is large because many refugees came because of Iran situation, from Afghanistan, many coming from Cambodia and Vietnam, and then people from many other places.

奥兰治县伊斯兰协会伊玛目穆扎米尔·西迪奇 (Imam MUZAMMIL SIDDIQI):现在社区规模很大,因为许多难民因为伊朗局势而来,来自阿富汗,许多人来自柬埔寨和越南,然后还有来自许多其他地方的人。

In metropolitan Los Angeles, say from San Barbara to San Diego, we estimate about half a million Muslims, maybe 30 or 40 different nationalities.

在洛杉矶大都市,比如从圣巴巴拉到圣地亚哥,我们估计大约有 50 万穆斯林,可能来自 30 或 40 个不同的国籍。

NARRATOR

In the 2000 election, a majority of American Muslims had voted for George W.

在2000年的选举中,大多数美国穆斯林投票给了乔治·W·布什。

Bush.

布什。

And when the 9/11 attacks created intense scrutiny of the Muslim community, that support for Bush would be reciprocated.

当 9/11 袭击引起穆斯林社区的密切关注时,对布什的支持就会得到回报。

Imam MUZAMMIL SIDDIQI: 9/11 created a lot of misunderstanding.

伊玛目 MUZAMMIL SIDDIQI:9/11 造成了很多误解。

People think that Muslims are fanatics, Muslims are not open to other people, they hate other people.

人们认为穆斯林是狂热分子,穆斯林不向其他人开放,他们讨厌其他人。

But that's not what Islam is.

但这不是伊斯兰教。

That's not who Muslim people are.

穆斯林不是这样的人。

NARRATOR

Imam Siddiqi had been scheduled to meet with President Bush at the White House on September 11th.

伊玛目西迪奇原定于9月11日在白宫会见布什总统。

After the terror attacks, he was invited to offer a prayer at the memorial service at the National Cathedral.

恐怖袭击发生后,他应邀在国家大教堂的追悼会上祈祷。

Imam MUZAMMIL SIDDIQI: We turn to you, O Lord, at this time of pain and grief in our nation.

伊玛目穆扎米尔·西迪奇:主啊,在我们国家面临痛苦和悲伤的时刻,我们向您求助。

With broken and humble hearts and with tears in our eyes, we turn to you, O Lord, to give us comfort.

主啊,我们带着破碎和谦卑的心,眼含泪水,转向你,求你安慰我们。

And the president said, "Thank you for participating in the prayer service.

总统说:“感谢你们参加祈祷仪式。

You did a heck of a good job." And I also gave him a copy of the Quran.

你做得非常好。”我还给了他一本《古兰经》。

I told him that, "I understand that you read the Bible every day.

我告诉他:“我知道你每天都读圣经。

I hope you will read some days from this book also." And he said, "I will.

我希望你也能读几天这本书。”他说:“我会的。

I will."

我会的。”

NARRATOR

Bush made a public plea for tolerance of Muslims and their faith.

布什公开呼吁宽容穆斯林及其信仰。

Pres.

新闻。

GEORGE W.

乔治·W.

BUSH: The face of terror is not the truth faith of Islam.

布什:恐怖的面目并不是伊斯兰教的真理信仰。

That's not what Islam is all about.

这不是伊斯兰教的全部意义。

Islam is peace.

伊斯兰教是和平。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

So it was President Bush who said, repeatedly, not "Islam is a bad religion and America is a country of Christians," but "Islam is a religion of peace." This was our evangelical president who did this.

因此,布什总统一再强调,不是“伊斯兰教是一个坏宗教,美国是一个基督教国家”,而是“伊斯兰教是一个和平的宗教”。这是我们的福音派总统所做的。

After 9/11, it became imperative to integrate Muslims because we couldn't be seen as going to war, a holy war, against Islam.

9/11之后,整合穆斯林变得势在必行,因为我们不能被视为对伊斯兰教发动战争,一场圣战。

That was horrible.

那太可怕了。

And so we had to be seen as a country not just of Christians and Jews, but also of Muslims.

因此,我们不仅必须被视为一个基督徒和犹太人的国家,而且还必须被视为一个穆斯林的国家。

NARRATOR

Immigration was creating more religious diversity, but in cities like Los Angeles, most newcomers still were Christians.

移民创造了更多的宗教多样性,但在洛杉矶这样的城市,大多数新移民仍然是基督徒。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

We often think about religious immigration as bringing Buddhists and Muslims and Hindus to America, and it has.

我们经常认为宗教移民是将佛教徒、穆斯林和印度教徒带到美国,事实确实如此。

But the largest group of people coming to America now are Catholics from Spanish-speaking countries.

但现在来到美国的最大群体是来自西班牙语国家的天主教徒。

NARRATOR

Hispanic immigrants were changing the Catholic church.

西班牙裔移民正在改变天主教会。

It incorporated popular Latino religious traditions into its rituals.

它将流行的拉丁裔宗教传统融入其仪式中。

ARLENE SANCHEZ-WALSH, Latino Church studies, Azusa Pacific Univ.: Latinos said, "We finally feel validated.

阿琳·桑切斯·沃尔什 (ARLENE SANCHEZ-WALSH),阿苏萨太平洋大学拉丁裔教会研究:拉丁裔说,“我们终于感到被认可了。

We finally feel like we're part of the Catholic Church," because for the longest time, there's been a serious tension between the institutional church and what the institutional church teaches, and the popular church.

我们终于感觉自己是天主教会的一部分了,”因为很长一段时间以来,制度化教会和制度化教会的教义以及大众教会之间一直存在着严重的紧张关系。

And overwhelmingly, Latinos in this country and in Mexico are part of the popular church.

在这个国家和墨西哥,绝大多数拉丁裔都是受欢迎的教会的一部分。

NARRATOR

While most Latino immigrants remained Catholic, many had joined Pentecostal churches, one of America's fastest-growing evangelical denominations.

虽然大多数拉丁裔移民仍然信仰天主教,但许多人加入了五旬节教会,这是美国发展最快的福音派教派之一。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

This tremendous desire to go toward this more emotional, heartfelt, personal experience, where not only is God moving in the world, but God is just moving inside you, with power.

这种巨大的渴望,想要获得这种更加情感化、真诚化、个人化的体验,在这种体验中,上帝不仅在世界上运行,而且在你的内心运行,带着力量。

ARLENE SANCHEZ-WALSH

It's coming into a community of like-minded people with similar experiences and saying, "At this point, you're all one because at this point, you are God's.

它进入一个由具有相似经历的志同道合的人组成的社区,并说:“在这一点上,你们都是一体的,因为在这一点上,你们是上帝的。

And God can touch you, can heal you, can solve your problems." So there's this open expression of weeping, of dancing, an abandoning of the self into a larger communal presence that they do believe is the Holy Spirit and that they come away changed.

神可以触摸你,可以医治你,可以解决你的问题。”因此,有这种公开的哭泣、跳舞、放弃自我进入更大的公共存在的表达方式,他们相信这是圣灵,并且他们离开时发生了变化。

NARRATOR

The increasing number of Latino Protestants was also changing the face of evangelical politics.

拉丁裔新教徒数量的增加也改变了福音派政治的面貌。

Rev.

牧师。

SAMUEL RODRIGUEZ, Pres., Natl.

塞缪尔·罗德里格斯,出版社,国家。

Hispanic Christian Leadership Conf.: Politically, there are some serious consequences to this browning of the evangelical community.

西班牙裔基督教领袖会议:在政治上,福音派社区的这种褐化会带来一些严重的后果。

White evangelicals from 1973 after Roe v.

1973 年“罗伊诉”案后的白人福音派

Wade have primarily voted conservative, Republican.

韦德主要投票给保守派、共和党人。

The brown evangelical comes along and says, "You know what?

棕色的福音派人士走过来说:“你知道吗?

We don't want to be married to either party.

我们不想与任何一方结婚。

We really don't.

我们真的不知道。

And rather than endorse a candidate we would love them to endorse our agenda." I see the Hispanic Christian community emerging as the game changers and the power brokers politically in America.

我们不希望他们支持某个候选人,而是希望他们支持我们的议程。”我看到西班牙裔基督教社区正在成为美国政治上的游戏规则改变者和权力掮客。

Pres.

新闻。

GEORGE W.

乔治·W.

BUSH: [campaign commercial] We all know that the Latino vote will be deciding factor in the presidential election.

布什:[竞选广告]我们都知道拉丁裔选票将是总统选举的决定性因素。

When you cast your vote in November, it will be felt.

当您在 11 月投票时,您将会感受到这一点。

NARRATOR

In 2004, the Bush campaign targeted Hispanic voters, especially Latino evangelicals, offering support for Hispanic churches through the administration's faith-based charities initiatives and promising major reforms on a key Latino issue, immigration.

2004年,布什竞选活动以拉美裔选民为目标,尤其是拉美裔福音派,通过政府基于信仰的慈善活动为拉美裔教会提供支持,并承诺对拉美裔的一个关键问题——移民问题进行重大改革。

Pres.

新闻。

GEORGE W.

乔治·W.

BUSH: I call upon Congress to enact common sense immigration reform that enforces our border, that upholds our laws, that treats people with respect and remembers the greatness of America is the fact that we've been able to come from different backgrounds, united under the common ideals of our country, and we live one nation under God!

布什:我呼吁国会实施常识性的移民改革,以加强我们的边界,维护我们的法律,尊重人民,并记住美国的伟大之处在于我们能够来自不同的背景,在我们国家的共同理想下团结起来,我们在上帝的领导下生活为一个国家!

NARRATOR

But Bush's wide-ranging pursuit of evangelical voters and the continued mixing of faith and politics by preachers and politicians was creating a backlash of its own.

但布什对福音派选民的广泛追求,以及传教士和政客不断将信仰与政治混在一起,也引发了强烈的抵制。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

One reaction against the entanglement of religion and politics, especially for young people, has been to disengage from both political and religious institutions.

针对宗教与政治纠缠的一种反应,尤其是对于年轻人来说,就是脱离政治和宗教机构。

There seems to be something a little unseemly about both of them.

两人身上似乎都有些不太对劲。

They're mistrustful of political parties, more likely to be political independents, mistrustful of religious denominations, more likely to be religiously unaffiliated.

他们不信任政党,更有可能成为政治独立人士,不信任宗教派别,更有可能在宗教上不隶属。

NARRATOR

National polls showed that one in six Americans were not affiliated with any religious institution.

全国民意调查显示,六分之一的美国人不隶属于任何宗教机构。

More than half of those said they were secular, atheist or agnostic.

其中超过一半的人表示自己是世俗的、无神论者或不可知论者。

There was also an expanding demographic who called themselves "spiritual but not religious."

还有越来越多的人自称“有精神但不信教”。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

So there is this new style now, this new spiritual but not religious style that is not secular in the least, but it sees the drama of religion as going on inside the individual.

所以现在有了这种新的风格,这种新的精神而非宗教风格,一点也不世俗,但它把宗教的戏剧视为在个人内部上演。

This isn't that far away from Billy Graham.

这离比利·格雷厄姆并不遥远。

This isn't that far away from the revivals of the second great awakening of the 19th century.

这距离十九世纪第二次大觉醒的复兴并不遥远。

You know, these are places that say the drama of religion is the individual transformation.

你知道,这些地方说宗教的戏剧是个人的转变。

Well, now we can get that individual transformation by going to yoga class.

好吧,现在我们可以通过上瑜伽课来实现个人转变。

We can get that transformation by doing some Zen sitting with some cool Zen teacher down the road.

我们可以通过与一些很酷的禅宗老师一起坐禅来实现这种转变。

I think that's very, very American.

我认为这非常非常美国化。

FRANK LAMBERT, Historian, Purdue University: American religion operates in this great sphere of freedom, in this great free marketplace of religion.

弗兰克·兰伯特,历史学家,普渡大学:美国宗教在这个伟大的自由领域、这个伟大的自由宗教市场中运作。

I mean, 90 percent of Americans say, "I believe in God." But they also reserve for themselves the right to say exactly how they believe in God, and what they mean by God.

我的意思是,90% 的美国人说,“我相信上帝。”但他们也为自己保留准确表达他们如何信仰上帝以及上帝的含义的权利。

With religious liberty, there is no official church.

有了宗教自由,就没有官方教会。

There is no official religion.

没有官方宗教。

There are hundreds, and it is a matter of fact, if we count mega-churches as individual religious groups, there are thousands of religious groups in America.

有数百个,事实上,如果我们将大型教会算作单个宗教团体,那么美国就有数千个宗教团体。

NARRATOR

Non-denominational evangelical mega-churches were one of the fastest-growing phenomena in the religious marketplace.

非宗派福音派大型教堂是宗教市场中增长最快的现象之一。

FRANK LAMBERT

They're innovative.

他们很有创新精神。

They're flexible.

他们很灵活。

They change.

他们改变了。

They reinvent themselves.

他们重塑自我。

So there is something for everyone.

所以每个人都能找到适合自己的东西。

WORSHIPER

I'm dedicated to the cause of Christ, my family and my band of brothers.

我致力于基督的事业、我的家庭和我的兄弟们。

NARRATOR

In Los Angeles and across the country, a new generation was redefining the evangelical political agenda with its own take on the Christian message.

在洛杉矶和全国各地,新一代人正在用自己对基督教信息的看法重新定义福音派政治议程。

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: Many evangelicals, particularly younger evangelicals, are beginning to question the whole political agenda of the religious right.

兰德尔·巴尔默:许多福音派人士,尤其是年轻的福音派人士,开始质疑宗教右翼的整个政治议程。

They're beginning to say, "Look, there's a broader spectrum of moral issues than simply abortion and homosexuality."

他们开始说,“看,道德问题的范围比简单的堕胎和同性恋更广泛。”

E.J.

E.J.

DIONNE, The Washington Post: Younger evangelicals are just as pro-life, just as opposed to abortion as older evangelicals, but they also show a much greater concern about the environment and a real concern about AIDS in Africa.

迪翁,《华盛顿邮报》:年轻的福音派人士与年长的福音派人士一样支持堕胎,反对堕胎,但他们也表现出对环境的更大关注以及对非洲艾滋病的真正关注。

Rev.

牧师。

RICK WARREN, Founder, Saddleback Church: I said, " God, these problems are so big, nobody's been able to solve them." Eight thousand people die every day from AIDS.

里克·沃伦(RICK WARREN),马鞍峰教会创始人:我说,“天哪,这些问题是如此之大,没有人能够解决它们。”每天有八千人死于艾滋病。

Twenty-eight million people in Africa have AIDS, 40 million worldwide.

非洲有 2800 万人患有艾滋病,全世界有 4000 万人患有艾滋病。

Something could be done.

可以做点什么。

And so I began to think, "What did Jesus do?" And I began to read through-

于是我开始想:“耶稣做了什么?”我开始通读——

Rev.

牧师。

ED DOBSON, Moral Majority executive, 1979-'87: And there's a whole new generation, Rick Warren and others, whose list of issues includes poverty, HIV-AIDS, caring for creation, and they're much more non-political in their passion and are working to solve issues at a grass roots level.

埃德·多布森 (ED DOBSON),道德多数执行官,1979-'87:还有瑞克·沃伦 (Rick Warren) 等全新一代,他们的问题清单包括贫困、艾滋病毒/艾滋病、关爱创造物,他们的热情更加非政治化,并致力于解决基层问题。

NARRATOR

In his 2000 campaign, George Bush had courted this younger generation of evangelical voters, promising a new "compassionate conservatism." In office, he would enact policies advocated by younger evangelicals.

在 2000 年的竞选中,乔治·布什向年轻一代的福音派选民示好,承诺推行新的“富有同情心的保守主义”。在任期间,他将制定年轻福音派人士倡导的政策。

He spoke out on the genocide in Darfur and proposed new funding to fight HIV-AIDS in Africa.

他就达尔富尔的种族灭绝发表了讲话,并提议为非洲抗击艾滋病毒/艾滋病提供新的资金。

Pres.

新闻。

GEORGE W.

乔治·W.

BUSH: Tonight I propose the Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, a work of mercy beyond all current international efforts to help the people of Africa.

布什:今晚,我提出了艾滋病紧急救援计划,这是一项超越当前所有国际社会帮助非洲人民的努力的仁慈工作。

NARRATOR

Bush did not forget the older generation of his evangelical supporters.

布什并没有忘记他的老一代福音派支持者。

He signed a bill banning late-term abortions and restricted embryonic stem cell research.

他签署了一项禁止晚期堕胎并限制胚胎干细胞研究的法案。

E.J. DIONNE

Well, the biggest thing he did for older evangelicals was to put Justices Roberts and Alito on the Supreme Court.

嗯,他为年长的福音派人士做的最重要的事情就是让罗伯茨法官和阿利托法官进入最高法院。

And in the long run, on the issues they care about, Alito and Roberts are going to push that Court in a conservative direction, and that's exactly what a lot of religious conservatives were looking for.

从长远来看,在他们关心的问题上,阿利托和罗伯茨将推动最高法院走向保守的方向,而这正是许多宗教保守派所寻求的。

NARRATOR

But as the Bush presidency bogged down with the war in Iraq, it became clear that yet another Republican administration would fail to push through key parts of the evangelical agenda, including constitutional amendments banning abortion and gay marriage.

但随着布什总统任期因伊拉克战争而陷入困境,很明显,另一届共和党政府将无法推动福音派议程的关键部分,包括禁止堕胎和同性婚姻的宪法修正案。

Rev.

牧师。

RICHARD CIZIK, National Evangelical Assn., 1980-2008: George W.

理查德·西兹克 (RICHARD CIZIK),全国福音派协会,1980-2008 年:乔治·W.

Bush turned out to be a huge disappointment to evangelicals.

事实证明,布什让福音派人士非常失望。

RALPH REED

There was a feeling that, "Hey, we worked all these years, we elected all these people, and what do we really have to show for it?"

有一种感觉是,“嘿,我们工作了这些年,我们选举了所有这些人,我们真正需要展示什么?”

NARRATOR

After a 30-year journey into politics, some veterans of the evangelical movement concluded their strategy had been flawed.

经过 30 年的从政之旅,一些福音派运动的资深人士得出结论,他们的策略存在缺陷。

RALPH REED

We too often acted like just another lobby group, treating the Republican Party as synonymous with our agenda.

我们常常表现得像另一个游说团体,将共和党视为我们议程的代名词。

Rev.

牧师。

RICHARD CIZIK: Ultimately, it's evangelicalism that suffers.

RICHARD CIZIK:最终,受苦的是福音派。

We lose our capacity to be an arbiter in society of what is moral and immoral because we've sold our birthright out to one political party.

我们失去了成为社会道德和不道德仲裁者的能力,因为我们把与生俱来的权利出卖给了一个政党。

Rev.

牧师。

ED DOBSON: There's a huge danger in getting too involved in the political process.

埃德·多布森:过度参与政治进程存在巨大的危险。

You can either be a prophet who stands on the outside of culture and argues against the injustices, or you can be the king.

你可以成为站在文化之外反对不公正的先知,也可以成为国王。

And I don't think you can be both.

我认为你们不可能两者兼而有之。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

A lot of the changes that the Christian right wanted were cultural changes - to use their own language, sort of "changes of the heart." But you can't really change that through electing presidents because by definition, it's cultural.

基督教右翼想要的很多改变都是文化上的改变——用他们自己的语言,有点“内心的改变”。但你无法通过选举总统来真正改变这一点,因为根据定义,这是文化的。

But they did change our politics in that they brought religion and politics closer and closer together and they created a model that was effective, that the Democrats have now taken up.

但他们确实改变了我们的政治,因为他们使宗教和政治越来越紧密地联系在一起,他们创造了一种有效的模式,民主党现在已经采用了这种模式。

NARRATOR

The Democratic Party would have its own epiphany about the role of religion in politics after John Kerry's defeat in the 2004 election.

约翰·克里 (John Kerry) 在 2004 年大选中失败后,民主党对宗教在政治中的作用有了自己的顿悟。

E.J. DIONNE

You might say that Democrats discovered God in the 2004 exit polls, that they realized that whatever they were doing with religion wasn't working and they had to think about it differently.

你可能会说,民主党人在 2004 年的出口民意调查中发现了上帝,他们意识到他们在宗教方面所做的一切都是行不通的,他们必须以不同的方式思考它。

NARRATOR

Kerry had polled well among more secular voters, but lost heavily to President Bush among those who attended church regularly.

克里在非宗教选民中的民意支持率很高,但在经常去教堂的选民中却严重输给了布什总统。

A Roman Catholic, Kerry had been criticized by some church leaders for his stand on abortion and had lost the Catholic vote.

克里是一名罗马天主教徒,他在堕胎问题上的立场受到一些教会领袖的批评,并失去了天主教徒的选票。

AMY SULLIVAN

Very shortly after the election, John Kerry called one of his close advisers, and among the things that he wanted to talk about, kind of revisiting the mistakes that they had made, was religion and both his inability to stick up for himself when attacked over his faith, but also his campaign's unwillingness to really target religious voters.

选举后不久,约翰·克里给他的一位亲密顾问打电话,他想谈论的事情之一是重新审视他们所犯的错误,其中包括宗教以及他在因信仰受到攻击时无法坚持自己的立场,以及他的竞选团队不愿意真正针对宗教选民。

And he said, you know, "I got the religion thing wrong, didn't I?

他说,你知道,“我把宗教问题搞错了,不是吗?

" and his advisers said, "Well, yes, sir, you did."

”他的顾问们说:“嗯,是的,先生,你做到了。”

NARRATOR

Jim Wallis had been working for years to persuade the Democratic Party to reach out to religious voters.

吉姆·沃利斯多年来一直致力于说服民主党接触宗教选民。

After Kerry's defeat, he saw attitudes begin to shift.

克里失败后,他看到人们的态度开始转变。

Rev.

牧师。

JIM WALLIS, Founder, Sojourners: The first call I got from a Democrat was from Ted Kennedy, who said, "I think we've, as Democrats, as a party, maybe lost our ability to speak in the language of faith and moral values and why we believe what we do, what our foundations are." He said, "Maybe I need to find a way to be more expressive of my faith while still protecting the separation of church and state."

吉姆·沃利斯,Sojourners 创始人:我接到的第一个民主党人电话是特德·肯尼迪打来的,他说:“我认为,作为民主党人,作为一个政党,我们可能已经失去了用信仰和道德价值观的语言表达的能力,以及为什么我们相信我们所做的事情和我们的基础是什么。”他说:“也许我需要找到一种方式来更表达我的信仰,同时仍然保护政教分离。”

NARRATOR

The Democrat who most boldly embraced that new attitude about religion was also the party's rising star.

最大胆地接受这种关于宗教的新态度的民主党人也是该党的后起之秀。

E.J. DIONNE

Barack Obama had a very different take on religion than John F.

巴拉克·奥巴马 (Barack Obama) 对宗教的看法与约翰·肯尼迪 (John F.

Kennedy did.

肯尼迪做到了。

And so he was basically arguing to liberals that liberals had to be open to the idea that, yes, religious people will bring their religious beliefs to the public square.

因此,他基本上是在向自由主义者争论,自由主义者必须接受这样的想法:是的,宗教人士会将他们的宗教信仰带到公共广场。

Sen.

参议员。

BARACK OBAMA (D), Illinois: [June 2006] But what I am suggesting is this.

巴拉克·奥巴马(民主党),伊利诺伊州:[2006 年 6 月]但我的建议是这样的。

Secularists are wrong when they ask believers to leave their religion at the door before entering into the public square.

当世俗主义者要求信徒在进入公共广场之前将他们的宗教信仰留在门口时,他们是错误的。

Frederick Douglass, Abraham Lincoln, Williams Jennings Bryan, Dorothy Day, Martin Luther King, the majority of great reformers in American history, were not only motivated by faith, but they repeatedly used religious language to argue for their cause.

弗雷德里克·道格拉斯、亚伯拉罕·林肯、威廉姆斯·詹宁斯·布莱恩、多萝西·戴、马丁·路德·金,美国历史上大多数伟大的改革家,不仅是出于信仰的动机,而且还反复使用宗教语言来为自己的事业辩护。

So to say that men and women should not inject their, quote, "personal morality" into public policy debates is a practical absurdity.

因此,说男人和女人不应该将“个人道德”注入公共政策辩论实际上是荒谬的。

Our law is by definition a codification of morality, much of it which is grounded in the Judeo-Christian tradition.

根据定义,我们的法律是道德的法典,其中大部分以犹太教和基督教传统为基础。

Moreover, if we progressives shed some of these biases-

此外,如果我们进步人士摆脱其中一些偏见——

E.J. DIONNE

Obama really is trying to reintroduce Civil Rights Christianity, strains of tough-minded liberal Protestantism, a little bit of the old social gospel.

奥巴马确实试图重新引入民权基督教、意志坚强的自由新教,以及一点点古老的社会福音。

But above all, he has spoken with the very respect that a lot of religious folks felt they hadn't gotten from liberals when the religious right was first formed.

但最重要的是,他说话时充满了尊重,这是许多宗教人士认为在宗教右翼刚形成时他们没有从自由主义者那里得到的。

NARRATOR

But Obama also criticized the religious right for the way they had argued political issues.

但奥巴马也批评宗教右翼争论政治问题的方式。

Sen.

参议员。

BARACK OBAMA: I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons, to take one example, but if I seek to pass a law banning the practice, I can't simply point to the teachings of my church or evoke God's will.

巴拉克·奥巴马:举个例子,我可能出于宗教原因反对堕胎,但如果我寻求通过一项禁止堕胎的法律,我不能简单地指出我的教会的教义或唤起上帝的意愿。

I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.

我必须解释为什么堕胎违反了所有信仰的人,包括那些完全没有信仰的人都可以接受的一些原则。

E.J. DIONNE

Obama has been trying to make a quite consistent argument that separating church and state is not the same as separating religion and politics, that you can respect religious liberty and respect religion itself, and that those two things go together.

奥巴马一直试图提出一个相当一致的论点,即政教分离并不等同于宗教与政治分离,你可以尊重宗教自由,也可以尊重宗教本身,而这两件事是相辅相成的。

Pres.

新闻。

BARACK OBAMA: -preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States-

巴拉克·奥巴马:-维护、保护和捍卫美国宪法-

JOHN ROBERTS, Chief Justice: -so help you God,

约翰·罗伯茨,首席大法官:-愿上帝帮助你,

Chief Justice JOHN ROBERTS: Congratulations, Mr. President.

首席大法官约翰·罗伯茨:恭喜,总统先生。

NARRATOR

Nearly 60 years had passed since Billy Graham linked faith with patriotism at the dawn of the cold war.

自从比利·格雷厄姆在冷战初期将信仰与爱国主义联系起来以来,已经过去了近 60 年。

After decades of struggle over the separation of church and state, and the rise of religion in the political movements of Civil Rights and the Christian right, Barack Obama had tried to articulate a new political consensus about the relationship between faith and power in America.

经过几十年的政教分离斗争以及宗教在民权和基督教右翼政治运动中的崛起,巴拉克·奥巴马试图就美国信仰与权力之间的关系达成新的政治共识。

AMY SULLIVAN

We've kind of come full circle in American politics, not back to the point where religion wasn't an issue in electoral politics and particularly in presidential politics, but to the point where neither party is necessarily seen as having an advantage over the other when it comes to values issues or morality, or even the ability to reach out to religious voters.

在美国政治中,我们似乎又回到了原点,不是回到了宗教在选举政治中,特别是在总统政治中不是问题的地步,而是到了这样一种地步:在价值观问题或道德问题,甚至在接触宗教选民的能力方面,任何一方都不一定被视为比另一方具有优势。

Pres.

新闻。

BARACK OBAMA: The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit, to choose our better history, to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea passed on from generation to generation, the God-given promise that all are equal, all are free, and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness!

巴拉克·奥巴马:现在是时候重申我们持久的精神,选择我们更好的历史,发扬这份宝贵的礼物,代代相传的崇高理念,以及上帝赐予的承诺,即人人平等,人人都是自由的,人人都应该有机会追求充分的幸福!

Rev.

牧师。

RANDALL BALMER: The sense of America as a providential nation has been with us for a very long time.

兰德尔·巴尔默:美国作为一个上天眷顾的国家的感觉已经伴随我们很长时间了。

In the 17th century you had John Winthrop's notion of a city on a hill being a beacon to the rest of the world.

在 17 世纪,约翰·温思罗普 (John Winthrop) 提出了山上之城是世界其他地方的灯塔的概念。

In the 18th century, you had the sacred cause of liberty in its revolt against Britain In the 19th century, manifest destiny, 20th century, making the world safe for democracy.

在18世纪,你在反抗英国时拥有自由的神圣事业;在19世纪,你有昭示的命运;在20世纪,你让世界对民主变得安全。

And the 21st century, who knows.

到了 21 世纪,谁知道呢。

It probably hasn't emerged quite yet.

可能还没有完全显现出来。

But Americans have a sense of their destiny as a nation.

但美国人对自己作为一个国家的命运有一种认识。

They have a sense that America occupies a unique niche in the divine economy.

他们有一种感觉,美国在神圣经济中占据着独特的地位。

I don't see that abating any time soon.

我认为这种情况不会很快减弱。

Pres.

新闻。

BARACK OBAMA: We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus and non-believers.

巴拉克·奥巴马:我们是一个由基督徒、穆斯林、犹太人、印度教徒和非信徒组成的国家。

We are shaped by every language and culture, drawn from every end of this earth.

我们受到来自地球各个角落的各种语言和文化的影响。

And because we have tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation and emerged from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass, that-

因为我们尝到了内战和种族隔离的苦涩滋味,并从黑暗的篇章中走出来,变得更强大、更团结,所以我们不禁相信,旧日的仇恨终有一天会过去,——

NARRATOR

In the summer of 2010, political controversies about the president's personal faith, plans to build an Islamic center near Ground Zero and threats by a Florida pastor to burn copies of the Quran would all be reminders that the struggle for religious liberty and the country's religious identity is an enduring American story.

2010年夏天,有关总统个人信仰的政治争议、在“归零地”附近建立伊斯兰中心的计划以及佛罗里达州牧师焚烧《古兰经》的威胁都在提醒人们,争取宗教自由和国家宗教身份的斗争是一个不朽的美国故事。

STEPHEN PROTHERO

This is this great conversation we've had from the very beginning of American life.

这是我们从美国生活一开始就进行的精彩对话。

We've had this notion that this is a special place, and what makes it special is that we have some kind of special relationship with God.

我们有这样的观念:这是一个特别的地方,而它的特别之处在于我们与上帝有某种特殊的关系。

The exact parameters of that have always been up for debate.

其确切参数一直存在争议。

And exactly who's included has always been up for debate.

而究竟包括哪些人一直存在争议。

And what's happened over time is more and more and more people have been included.

随着时间的推移,越来越多的人被纳入其中。

This moment in American religious life really is about pluralism.

美国宗教生活的这个时刻确实是关于多元化的。

We just keep making the space bigger, you know, extending the sacred canopy over more and more people.

你知道,我们只是不断扩大空间,将神圣的华盖延伸到越来越多的人身上。

So how important is religion going to remain?

那么宗教将继续保持多重要的地位呢?

Are we going to remain both the most modern country in the world and also one of the most religious?

我们是否仍将是世界上最现代化的国家,同时也是最虔诚的国家之一?

We don't really know.

我们真的不知道。

We don't have a narrative yet for that.

我们还没有对此的叙述。

And one interesting thing to see in coming years is, will we come up with one?

未来几年会看到的一件有趣的事情是,我们会想出一个吗?

What's the story going to be?

故事将会怎样呢?

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