Alexander the Grate on Life as an NFA (Ep. 127)

So, my first name is enough syllables for first and last.

所以，我的名字的第一个和最后一个音节就足够了。

First time I tell I’m Alexander, and more often than not, because it’s not the most — now it’s common, and it’s on the top of I don’t know how many lists — but in my generation, it was not a common name.

我第一次说我是亚历山大，而且更多时候是因为它不是最常见的——现在它很常见，而且在我不知道有多少个列表中名列前茅——但在我们这一代，它不是一个常见的名字。

So, the only Alexander people are familiar with is the Great.

所以，人们唯一熟悉的亚历山大就是大帝。

So, I’m turning that towards a, “Yeah, but I spell it differently because of my living situation.”

所以，我将其转向“是的，但由于我的生活状况，我的拼写有所不同。”

On living with no fixed address

关于没有固定地址的生活

So you have to get resourceful and creative and get back to your reptilian brain roots.

所以你必须足智多谋、富有创造力，并回到你的爬虫类大脑根源。

All these things come naturally, however we program them.

所有这些事情都是自然而然的，无论我们如何编程它们。

So, the question was —

所以，问题是 ——

I knew it was coming.

我知道它即将到来。

I left some of my stuff at my aunt’s house.

我把一些东西留在了姨妈家。

In those days there were a couple of rescue missions downtown, and I heard of those.

那时候市中心有几次救援任务，我听说过。

You ever heard of the radio programs, dramatized versions of this, out of Chicago, called Unshackled?

您听说过芝加哥的广播节目“Unshackled”吗？

They gave life stories of redemption of the Skid Row population and stuff.

他们讲述了拯救贫民窟人口的生活故事等等。

So I learned about the mission life from there.

所以我从那里了解了宣教生活。

I knew there was a gospel mission.

我知道有一个福音使命。

That was the Hilton of the missions downtown, which is still there.

那是市中心的希尔顿酒店，现在仍然在那里。

It’s a program for women or something there now.

这是一个针对女性的项目或者现在的其他项目。

For $2 a night you get a double bunk, two sheets, a pillow, and a pillowcase on a 6-inch mattress.

每晚 2 美元，您可以享受一张双人床、两张床单、一个枕头和一个 6 英寸床垫上的枕套。

The Hilton of the missions, yeah.

任务中的希尔顿，是的。

That’s for two bucks.

那是两块钱。

I took about two or three nights with that.

我花了大约两三个晚上的时间。

Then I found out about the free Central Union Mission, which was right here on Pennsylvania Avenue back then, before they moved on.

然后，在他们继续前进之前，我发现了免费的中央联盟宣教团，当时就在宾夕法尼亚大道上。

They’re free, but you only get four nights a month.

它们是免费的，但您每个月只能入住四晚。

No sheets, a pillow, half the thickness of the mattress.

没有床单，一个枕头，床垫的厚度只有一半。

So, you finish your time there, and then you discover the city’s shelters, which are mostly converted elementary schools they don’t need anymore.

所以，你在那里结束了你的时间，然后你发现了这座城市的避难所，这些避难所大多是由小学改建而成的，他们不再需要了。

The Baltic and Mediterranean, I called them.

我把它们称为波罗的海和地中海。

So, you get a plain four-inch foam mattress with a FEMA disaster blanket — that’s what they called it.

所以，你会得到一个普通的四英寸泡沫床垫和一个 FEMA 灾难毯 ——他们就是这么称呼它的。

And that ain’t the end of it, when they fill up — that was 6th and I Northeast — then they send you to 15th and Maryland Northeast.

这还不是结束，当他们填满时 ——那是第 6 街和我东北部——然后他们会把你送到第 15 街和马里兰州东北部。

That’s the backup, that’s Mediterranean Avenue on the Monopoly board.

那是备份，那就是大富翁棋盘上的地中海大道。

That gray disaster blanket — if you see your blanket move by itself before you get under it, you know you’re in trouble that night.

那条灰色的灾难毯 ——如果你在钻到毯子下面之前看到毯子自己移动了，你就知道那天晚上你有麻烦了。

That’s the biggest revelation you get.

这是你得到的最大的启示。

You know what that is?

你知道那是什么吗？

That is human body lice — pediculus humanus corporis.

那就是人体虱子——人体虱子。

That’s the plague of the street.

这就是街头的瘟疫。

So, maybe the blanket isn’t moving before you get under it, but you feel like it’s moving once you are under it.

所以，也许在你钻到毯子下面之前，毯子并没有移动，但是一旦你钻到毯子下面，你就会感觉它在移动。

That’s one of the plagues of Egypt, all right?

这是埃及的瘟疫之一，好吗？

They are, I think, an exception among the cities of America, being solicitous and taking care of their homeless.

我认为，他们在美国城市中是个例外，他们热心并照顾无家可归的人。

Housing’s a big issue for the current mayor, and she’s doing a good job.

住房对于现任市长来说是一个大问题，而她做得很好。

They’re very tolerant because they have a vested interest in public image, and then compassion, one would think.

人们会认为，他们非常宽容，因为他们对公众形象有既得利益，然后是同情心。

But multiply, New York City — I don’t know how sympathetic they are.

但是，纽约市 —— 我不知道他们有多么富有同情心。

They have about ten times DC’s population.

他们的人口大约是华盛顿特区的十倍。

About ten times that in easy rider country — Florida, California.

大约是轻松骑手国家——佛罗里达州、加利福尼亚州的十倍。

That’s where the sun bums go, and it’s a problem.

这就是太阳晒伤的地方，这是一个问题。

You increase the number of interlopers and ne’er-do-wells enough and, like they say, “A liberal is somebody with a positive attitude toward his neighbor until he gets mugged.” And your charity gets over, so it’s a problem.

你增加了闯入者和游手好闲者的数量，就像他们说的那样，“自由主义者是对邻居持积极态度的人，直到他被抢劫为止。”你的慈善事业结束了，所以这是一个问题。

That’s why immigration is such a problem.

这就是为什么移民是一个问题。

That’s one of the reasons that the previous president got .

这就是前任总统当选的原因之一。

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because people on the actual border, whose yards get trespassed through — I’ve heard horror stories like that — people banging on doors wanting water and demanding it, basically, because it’s a human need.

因为实际边界上的人们，他们的院子被非法侵入 —— 我听过这样的恐怖故事 —— 人们敲门想要水并要求供水，基本上，因为这是人类的需求。

In Africa, they say that they don’t deny you water.

在非洲，他们说他们不会拒绝给你水。

That’s not withheld, but here, so you get overwhelmed.

这不是隐瞒，而是在这里，所以你会不知所措。

The municipalities of the sunbelts are overwhelmed, and the mindset is — what do they say?

阳光地带的市政当局不知所措，他们的心态是：“他们说什么？”

Warm hands, cold hearts.

温暖的手，冰冷的心。

Whereas in Boston, the empathy level is higher in New England, let’s say — cold hands, warm hearts.

而在波士顿，新英格兰的同理心水平更高，比如说——手冷，心温暖。

If someone says, “Are you homeless?” I say, “Well, aren’t you?” I don’t see a turtle shell or a conch shell on your back.

如果有人问：“你无家可归吗？”我说：“嗯，不是吗？”我没有看到你背上有海龟壳或海螺壳。

That’s your essential nature.

这就是你的本质。

If you had your own shelter built in, you wouldn’t need an external shelter.

如果您有自己的避难所，则不需要外部避难所。

Everybody’s homeless because any of you here, including myself, have some degree of shelter insecurity.

每个人都无家可归，因为这里的任何人，包括我自己，都有一定程度的住所不安全感。

That’s my new narrative for the relative states of shelter insecurity because none of you knows — the turkey in the apartment or the house next door was smoking in bed and burned his house down, and it spreads through the whole block.

这是我对庇护所不安全的相对状态的新叙述，因为你们都不知道——公寓或隔壁房子里的火鸡在床上冒烟，烧毁了他的房子，并且蔓延到整个街区。

Your apartment building might be ashes at this point — or home or whatever.

此时你的公寓楼可能已化为灰烬，或者是家或其他什么。

The plane out of the sky — that happens.

飞机从天而降——发生了这种事。

You see that in the news…

你在新闻中看到了……

That’s the irony, or the paradox at least, especially in California after the wildfires.

这就是讽刺，或者至少是悖论，尤其是在野火之后的加利福尼亚州。

Tens of thousands of people with million-dollar homes — they were essentially, personally shelterless at that point, but they had a low level of shelter insecurity because they had back-up resources.

数以万计的人拥有价值百万美元的房屋——他们当时基本上没有个人庇护所，但他们的庇护所不安全程度较低，因为他们有后备资源。

It amazes me.

这让我很惊讶。

They say you can’t understand until you walk a mile.

他们说，除非你走了一英里，否则你无法理解。

Empathy grows with experience in the situation, but they haven’t learned.

同理心会随着情境中的经验而增长，但他们还没有学习。

They’re still choleric about this smelly, grungy infestation of their nice, manicured, water-guzzling green spaces and stuff.

他们仍然对这种臭气熏天、脏兮兮的侵扰他们美丽的、修剪整齐的、耗水的绿地和其他东西感到愤怒。

It’s not just the shelter or the home as long as you can replace it.

它不仅仅是避难所或房屋，只要您可以更换它即可。

I have a high degree of shelter insecurity.

我的住所非常不安全。

I don’t say shelter security.

我不是说庇护所安全。

Everybody’s shelter-insecure because ultimately, our most basic shelter — the body we’re in — we’re going to lose that, too.

每个人的庇护所都缺乏安全感，因为最终，我们最基本的庇护所 ——我们所处的身体——我们也将失去它。

So everybody is ultimately shelter-insecure to some degree.

因此，每个人最终都在某种程度上缺乏庇护。

You can have the most Bezos style mansions in this world, but everybody loses their .

你可以拥有这个世界上最具贝索斯风格的豪宅，但每个人都失去了他们的。

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if you subscribe to the personhood-in-a-separate-soul notions, and this is a temporary dwelling that you’re in in the flesh, everybody loses it.

如果你认同独立灵魂中的人格观念，而这是你在肉体中的临时居所，那么每个人都会失去它。

Everybody’s shelter-insecure because ultimately, our most basic shelter — the body we’re in — we’re going to lose that, too.

每个人的庇护所都缺乏安全感，因为最终，我们最基本的庇护所 ——我们所处的身体——我们也将失去它。

So everybody is ultimately shelter-insecure to some degree.

因此，每个人最终都在某种程度上缺乏庇护。

You can have the most Bezos style mansions in this world, but everybody loses their .

你可以拥有这个世界上最具贝索斯风格的豪宅，但每个人都失去了他们的。

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if you subscribe to the personhood-in-a-separate-soul notions, and this is a temporary dwelling that you’re in in the flesh, everybody loses it.

如果你认同独立灵魂中的人格观念，而这是你在肉体中的临时居所，那么每个人都会失去它。

Now, you’re lucky if the soul is just an emergent phenomenon, and after the body dies, that’s kaput.

现在，如果灵魂只是一种新兴现象，那么你很幸运，而身体死亡后，那就完了。

That’s wishful thinking.

这是一厢情愿的想法。

I wish that were true, but I’ve been exposed to too much theology and Christian aspect and stuff.

我希望这是真的，但我接触了太多的神学和基督教方面的东西。

Anyway, I’m hedging my bets, and taking what they say literally just in case because it sounds pretty convincing.

不管怎样，我正在两面下注，并从字面上理解他们所说的，以防万一，因为这听起来很有说服力。

You’ve had 2,000 years of people maintaining this point of view.

2000 年来人们一直坚持这个观点。

On stratification amongst the homeless

关于无家可归者的分层

Some of them work their way out and become domestics or something like that, and as soon as they get a little better means become poor as opposed to destitute.

他们中的一些人努力工作，成为家庭佣人或类似的人，一旦他们变得好一点，就意味着变得贫穷而不是赤贫。

I say, you can quote me: poverty is the pipe dream of the destitute.

我说，你可以引用我的话：贫穷是赤贫者的白日梦。

I’m not at the bottom of the barrel, but under the barrel.

我不在桶的底部，而是在桶的下面。

That’s what I call the underclass, you know.

你知道，这就是我所说的下层阶级。

When they become poor, at least they have potential for saving and getting a better life.

当他们变穷时，至少他们有储蓄并过上更好生活的潜力。

I’ve heard stories — they look down on the people that they left down in the barrio, the rest of it.

我听过一些故事——他们瞧不起那些被他们留在贫民区的人，以及其他地区的人。

I stick to my own little pattern, even since high school.

即使从高中开始，我也坚持自己的小模式。

I had a few close friends or intimates that I socialized with at lunch hour and stuff like that, but I wasn’t the athletic, most popular on-campus kind of person that live for their coterie, and these days, with their social networks and all that, local social networks.

我有一些亲密的朋友或亲密的人，我在午餐时间和类似的人交往，但我不是那种运动型的、校园里最受欢迎的人，为他们的小圈子而活，而如今，我有他们的社交网络和所有这些，本地社交网络。

So I had a couple friends during lunch hour and maybe after hours.

所以我在午餐时间和下班后有几个朋友。

So I reprised that on the street.

所以我在街上又重复了一遍。

When I found this soup kitchen on Capitol Hill, which lasted about 30 years — they’ve been gone about five years.

当我在国会山发现这个持续了大约 30 年的施粥所时，它们已经消失了大约五年了。

They’re off-line now.

他们现在离线了。

Church of the Brethren — it’s an Anabaptist peace church basically.

兄弟会教堂——基本上是一个再洗礼派和平教堂。

I even went to their peace lectureships and stuff.

我什至参加了他们的和平讲座之类的活动。

If you’re a peace activist, you’re an activist in other areas that are prescribed in the Beatitudes and stuff.

如果你是一名和平活动家，那么你也是八福之类规定的其他领域的活动家。

It’s there, doors open at 11:30.

就在那里，11:30 开门。

You get classical soup kitchen, whatever else gets donated, bowl of soup and whatever sides.

你会得到经典的施粥厨房，其他捐赠的东西，一碗汤和任何配菜。

So that became my mainstay.

所以这成了我的支柱。

After a couple of years, I discovered this place.

几年后，我发现了这个地方。

I sat at a table and there was a guy there.

我坐在一张桌子旁，那里有一个人。

We’re talking about ’83 or something like that.

我们正在谈论 83 年或类似的事情。

It started then.

事情就是从那时开始的。

I talked with a couple of people I knew at the shelter, and I knew their names because you have a name tag on your bag.

我和收容所里认识的几个人交谈过，我知道他们的名字，因为你的包上有一个名字标签。

They take your shoes, by the way, so you don’t run off in the middle of the night.

顺便说一句，他们会拿走你的鞋子，这样你就不会在半夜跑掉。

You bag everything, and in the morning, they call your name to recover your bag, so you can’t keep your name a secret.

你把所有东西都装进袋子里，早上，他们会叫你的名字来取回你的袋子，所以你不能保守你的名字。

The couple of people I met there — we went to that soup kitchen.

我在那里遇到的几个人——我们去了那个施食处。

Another guy at a table — I heard him — he had discovered the free pages in the City Paper and the Weekend section in The Post.

桌边的另一个人 ——“我听到了他的声音”——他发现了《城市报纸》和《华盛顿邮报》周末版块的免费页面。

And I contributed, “Did you know about this community calendar in the Local Living section for DC?” He said, “No.” So I got his interest, and I was able to contribute to his knowledge of free things to do.

我贡献道：“您知道华盛顿特区本地生活部分的社区日历吗？”他说：“不。”所以我引起了他的兴趣，并且我能够为他贡献关于免费事情的知识。

Here’s the segue.

这是segue。

That’s the time we discovered four to five free classic international movies a week at the Mary Pickford Theater in the Library of Congress, which is three blocks from the soup kitchen, and that’s where Jim comes into this.

那时我们每周在国会图书馆的玛丽碧克馥剧院发现四到五部免费的经典国际电影，该剧院距离施粥处三个街区，这就是吉姆介入的地方。

Oh, five more minutes, unless it’s an Amtrak.

哦，再等五分钟，除非是 Amtrak。

Let’s see what it is.

让我们看看它是什么。

On food in DC

关于华盛顿特区的食品

If you know where the tourists are — where there’s people, there’s going to be food.

如果你知道游客在哪里 ——哪里有人，哪里就有食物。

The charter member with me of the Capitol Hill Triple F — his name was Lawrence.

与我同行的国会山 Triple F 的创始成员——他的名字叫劳伦斯。

When we got settled into a routine during the summer time, we’d go down to the Mall.

当我们在夏天习惯了生活后，我们就会去购物中心。

This is about spring time actually, when every school group in the area is coming to DC for their nation’s capital tour.

实际上，现在正是春天，该地区的每个学校团体都将来到华盛顿进行国家首都之旅。

School buses loaded with kids carrying bag lunches and excited on the trip, eating maybe one of their Oreos and a bite out of their sandwich.

校车上满载着带着袋装午餐的孩子们，他们在旅途中很兴奋，也许吃了一块奥利奥，还吃了一口三明治。

What happens to the rest of their lunch?

他们剩下的午餐怎么办？

Summer time and the living is easy, folks are lunching and the food is piled high.

夏天，生活很轻松，人们正在吃午饭，食物堆得很高。

I mean overflowing, every can.

我的意思是满溢，每一罐都满溢。

This is fresh stuff.

这是新鲜事。

“Oh, it’s disgusting.

“哦，真恶心。

Who’d eat that?” It was mother’s love, in her kitchen that morning, fresh, clean stuff.

谁会吃那个？”这是母亲的爱，那天早上在她的厨房里，新鲜、干净的东西。

Trash liner is ordinarily changed too — that’s antiseptic right there.

垃圾桶内衬通常也会更换——那里有防腐剂。

If you’re hungry enough, and you see what looks like edible food, your hand will go out and hit your mouth before your brain knows what it’s doing.

如果你足够饿，并且看到看起来可以吃的食物，你的大脑会在你的大脑知道它在做什么之前伸出手来击打你的嘴。

We haven’t seen real famine, not in this generation anyway.

我们还没有看到真正的饥荒，至少在这一代人中还没有。

We’d spend the afternoon there and come back with what Lawrence used to call “two hands heavy.” That means three plastic grocery bags in each hand.

我们会在那里度过一个下午，然后带着劳伦斯所说的“两只手沉重”回来。这意味着每只手拿三个塑料购物袋。

We had enough food to feed a dozen people.

我们的食物足够十几个人吃。

You’ve partaken with us there.

你在那里和我们一起参加过。

Of course, the less acclimatized to this lifestyle, but no, you fit right in, you’re a homeless immigrant basically, food-wise.

当然，不太适应这种生活方式，但不，你很适合，你基本上是一个无家可归的移民，在食物方面。

I’m not even a digital immigrant.

我什至不是数字移民。

I’m an alien altogether, but he fits in well.

我完全是个外星人，但他却很融入。

He’s adopted well.

他被收养得很好。

He’s an honorary homeless, I call him .

他是名誉无家可归者，我这样称呼他。

But one more thing about the lunches.

但关于午餐还有一件事。

We’re an overfed population — the affluent society.

我们是一个吃得过多的人群——富裕的社会。

Are you really hungry three times a day?

你真的一天三顿都饿吗？

It’s a luxury to have that many.

拥有这么多真是一种奢侈。

When people have to hesitate, “What am I going to eat now?” Truth to tell, I don’t really need it, but it’s become a tradition, a tradition of the affluent.

当人们不得不犹豫“我现在吃什么？”说实话，我并不真正需要它，但这已经成为一种传统，一种富人的传统。

We don’t need to eat as much as we do.

我们不需要吃得那么多。

It’s more habit than anything.

这更像是习惯。

But the kids, the junior-high kids throwing their lunch away — they didn’t know that at the bottom of the bag, their mamma left a napkin with a stick figure on it, saying, “Hi, hope you’re having a good time in DC.

但孩子们，初中生们把午餐扔掉了——他们不知道，在包的底部，他们的妈妈留下了一张餐巾纸，上面写着简笔画，说：“嗨，希望你在华盛顿过得愉快。

Love, Mom.” Mother’s love comes along with a peanut butter sandwich.

爱你，妈妈。”花生酱三明治伴随着妈妈的爱。

But under the napkin is up to $2 in change or bills for drink money, so there’s cash left behind there, too.

但餐巾纸下最多有 2 美元的零钱或酒水账单，所以那里也留有现金。

Alright, let’s back up a few tangents here.

好吧，让我们在这里备份一些切线。

Man, you have a lot of things out on the floor here.

伙计，你这里有很多东西。

José Andres, World Central Kitchen.

何塞·安德烈斯，世界中央厨房。

Those with marginal means and the street people and stuff — how are they going to eat?

那些收入微薄的人以及街头行人和其他人——他们将如何吃饭？

They took care of us.

他们照顾我们。

They’ve been distributing .

他们一直在分发。

.

。

.

。

I haven’t seen much around now, but for most of the year, they were distributing hot lunches and dinners to whoever they could find, as well as to schools and shelters and stuff like that.

我现在没见过太多东西，但一年中的大部分时间，他们都会向他们能找到的任何人分发热腾腾的午餐和晚餐，以及学校和避难所之类的东西。

This is real food.

这是真正的食物。

The most memorable time I’ve had in the past years — a guy that worked a late shift at Popeye’s — at two o’clock in the morning, he said, “I can’t let all this stuff go to waste.

过去几年里我最难忘的时光 ——一个在大力水手店上夜班的人—— 凌晨两点，他说，“我不能让所有这些东西白白浪费。

I’m going to see if I can find somebody downtown.” For a couple of weeks anyway, he and another guy — well, that was mentioned — the guy under the bridge we called him.

我去看看能否在市中心找到人。”无论如何，有几周的时间，他和另一个人——嗯，提到过——就是我们称之为桥下的那个人。

He stopped there first, and then I went to see what was happening and said, “Put me in on this distribution.” Vegetarian stuff.

他先停在那里，然后我去看发生了什么，然后说：“让我参与这个发行版。”素食的东西。

The other guy got the box.

另一个人拿到了盒子。

I’m going to mention you at some point.

我会在某个时候提到你。

You’re the ultimate disposition resource here.

你是这里的最终处置资源。

Jim’s partaken in this, too.

吉姆也参与其中。

The box had two dozen breasts or something — chicken parts and things, but I got all the sides, every side dish: macaroni and cheese, mashed potatoes and gravy, spiced rice, so I was eating all night.

盒子里有两打鸡胸肉之类的东西——鸡肉块之类的东西，但我得到了所有的配菜，每道配菜：通心粉和奶酪，土豆泥和肉汁，五香米饭，所以我整晚都在吃东西。

That’s the most memorable freebie food experience I remember.

这是我记忆中最难忘的免费美食体验。

That’s why I cut to my little clique here, the Freebie Finders.

这就是为什么我在这里切入我的小集团——免费赠品发现者。

The Freebie Finders was an answer to social hierarchies.

免费赠品发现者是对社会等级制度的回应。

This all happened after I graduated from the elementary school shelters.

这一切都发生在我从收容所小学毕业之后。

I was 15 months at those places.

我在那些地方待了 15 个月。

How’d I join the grate society?

我怎么加入Grate Society？

Input screening is, you put all your clothes away.

输入筛选就是，你把所有衣服收起来。

They give you leftover hospital gowns from Howard University surgical department.

他们会给你霍华德大学外科部门剩下的医院服。

Waiting for dinner, everybody’s dressed in white surgical gowns — the homeless.

等待晚餐时，每个人都穿着白色手术服——无家可归者。

I said, “Wow, what an astute party of doctors and professionals here.”

我说：“哇，这里的医生和专业人士真是一群精明的人。”

On the National debt

关于国家债务

What else do you want to ask me?

你还想问我什么？

On changes in DC

关于 DC 的变化

Which brings back the question, what are the freebies that you do?

这又带回了一个问题，你提供哪些免费赠品？

Movies, lectures, concerts, talks, tours.

电影、讲座、音乐会、演讲、旅游。

“Okay, Lawrence, it’s time for the reading of the list.” He spends most of his day compiling everything that’s possibly free within a 15-mile radius of DC.

“好了，劳伦斯，现在是宣读名单的时间了。”他一天的大部分时间都在收集华盛顿特区 15 英里半径内可能免费的所有内容。

You remember this.

你记住这一点。

After the Bums Banquet, I’d say, “It’s time for the reading of the list.”

流浪汉宴会结束后，我会说：“现在是宣读名单的时间了。”

He would go on for several minutes, saying the National Gallery of Art has a movie tomorrow.

他会继续讲几分钟，说国家美术馆明天有电影。

The Pickford Theater has one on Thursday.

皮克福德剧院周四有一场演出。

There’s a free concert at the Library of Congress.

国会图书馆有一场免费音乐会。

There’s a talking-head lecture, he would call it — it’s boring to him, but he liked the music and any movie.

有一个会说话的演讲，他称之为“这对他来说很无聊，但他喜欢音乐和任何电影。

In its heyday, it’s possible.

在其全盛时期，这是可能的。

Is it possible to get stress syndrome from too many freebies available?

太多的免费赠品是否有可能导致压力综合症？

On a good day, and especially on a weekend — the National Gallery film program had the weekend.

天气好的时候，尤其是在周末——国家美术馆的电影节目度过了周末。

You could start with a kiddie matinee at 10:30 in the morning, and go to a five-o’clock Romanian film in the afternoon, about four or five movies all together.

你可以从上午 10:30 开始看一部儿童日场，然后在下午 5 点去看一场罗马尼亚电影，总共大约有四五部电影。

But here’s where the stress comes in.

但这就是压力的来源。

The Environmental Film Festival, yes!

环保电影节，对！

They’re doing packed movies every day for a week at the Natural History Museum.

他们在自然历史博物馆连续一周每天都在拍电影。

Then there’s an anime festival at the Freer Gallery of Asian art.

然后在弗里尔亚洲艺术画廊举办动漫节。

This takes some serious traveling-salesman paradigming.

这需要一些严肃的旅行推销员范例。

How do I get to here and to there?

我如何到达这里和那里？

And running times — you have to jockey these times and stuff.

还有运行时间 — 你必须掌控这些时间之类的东西。

You can get a good workout — not just one venue but several simultaneous pregnant venues on the weekend.

您可以在周末得到很好的锻炼 ——不仅仅是一个场所，而是多个同时怀孕的场所。

Otherwise, if you can catch a freebie in the evening, the primary reason for this cultural event — with rare exceptions — is this is some classy comfortable shelter.

否则，如果您晚上能得到免费赠品，那么举办这一文化活动的主要原因 （极少数例外） 是这里是一些优雅舒适的庇护所。

Or winter — all-day at the National Gallery.

或者冬天——在国家美术馆度过一整天。

Plush seats and there’s something for everybody — entertainment.

豪华座椅和适合每个人的活动——娱乐。

You said in that interview that you keep busy during the day, and once in a while, you might catch an evening — that’s the focus, the evening freebie.

你在那次采访中说，你白天很忙，偶尔，你可能会抽出一个晚上 ——这就是焦点，晚上的免费赠品。

That’s what’s critical.

这才是关键。

What am I going to do between bedtime, such as it might be, whatever it turns out to be, and the last church closing or soup kitchen?

在就寝时间（无论结果如何）和最后一次教堂关闭或施粥间之间我要做什么？

A film from Korea or Hong Kong, something at the Freer Gallery.

一部来自韩国或香港的电影，弗利尔画廊里的东西。

It’s an education, and it’s also a luxurious shelter at the same time.

这是一种教育，同时也是一个豪华的庇护所。

I’m operating at 10 percent, 5 percent of the before time.

我现在的工作效率是之前的 10%、5%。

The four-letter word for this is loss.

这个由四个字母组成的词是损失。

All of the comfort counselors are in on that.

所有的安慰顾问都参与其中。

10 topics removed, that’s the answer to the categories.

删除了 10 个主题，这就是类别的答案。

There are a lot of people that I have not seen before roaming the streets, a lot of competition between the rats and other bums.

有很多我以前没见过的人在街上闲逛，老鼠和其他流浪汉之间有很多竞争。

I’m scraping now more than usual.

我现在比平时刮得更多。

When the tourists see me foraging, and a lady from Ohio or something — they gave me a sandwich from a food truck they didn’t eat.

当游客们看到我在觅食时，还有一位来自俄亥俄州的女士什么的——他们从餐车上给了我一个他们没有吃的三明治。

I said, “Welcome back to DC, America.

我说：“欢迎回到美国华盛顿。

Good to see you.”

很高兴见到你。”

I don’t know what kind of reaction we might get.

我不知道我们会得到什么样的反应。

Comet Ping Pong — come across the country, the power of deception, delusion, conspiracy.

乒乓彗星——席卷全国，欺骗、妄想、阴谋的力量。

There’s a lot more traffic since the Wharf has opened up, but now, since the Spy Museum is at Plaza, people are on their phones, and there’s a sidewalk on the far south end before the freeway, which is full of parking meters.

自从码头开放以来，交通量增加了很多，但现在，由于间谍博物馆位于广场，人们都在打电话，而且高速公路前最南端有一条人行道，上面布满了停车计时器。

You can hardly get one that has people side by side.

你很难找到一个有人并排的人。

I see people going that way or their phone, on their Google Map, and I’m saying, “Hold it you’re not going to be able to walk side by side.” Four abreast, of course, if they’re ten in a group, they’re going to take up the whole sidewalk.

我看到人们在谷歌地图上走那条路，或者用手机走，我就说，“坚持住，你将无法并肩行走。”当然，四个人并排，如果十个人一组，他们就会占据整个人行道。

“That way, it’s a constricted sidewalk.” Some people thank me, but most, “Google’s telling me this.

“这样一来，人行道就变得狭窄了。”有些人感谢我，但大多数人，“谷歌告诉我这一点。

I’m going to go this way.”

我要走这条路。”

I think more it’s because that used to be the quietest spot around for me.

我想更多的是因为那曾经是我周围最安静的地方。

Now I have an invasion of the location-grubbing hoards, the tourists, trying to find something.

现在我已经入侵了那些寻找地点的宝藏，游客们，试图找到一些东西。

Is there no feedbacks to Alexa?

没有给 Alexa 的反馈吗？

“Google has not been here.

“谷歌还没有来过这里。

It doesn’t know how to — ”

它不知道如何 —— ”

As far as the large scale, look at the news.

至于规模大的话，看新闻吧。

Southwest especially.

尤其是西南地区。

Every square foot is accounted for.

每平方英尺都被考虑在内。

Every church has been propositioned.

每个教堂都已被提议。

“Tell you what, I think you need help paying the bills.

“告诉你吧，我认为你需要帮助来支付账单。

Tell you what, you have a lot of maintenance and stuff.

告诉你什么，你有很多维护和东西。

The infrastructure — your old building is breaking down.

基础设施 — 你的旧建筑正在崩溃。

We’ll give you a brand new church.

我们会给你一座全新的教堂。

Just sell us your property.”

把你的财产卖给我们就可以了。”

One church after another is doing that.

一个又一个教会正在这样做。

You can see it everywhere.

你随处都可以看到它。

The church on I Street, the jazz church, actually, I won’t mention, but everyone in the Southwest knows that.

I街上的教堂，爵士教堂，其实我不提，但是西南地区的人都知道。

People are saying they’re selling out.

人们说他们已经卖光了。

It’s tough in post-Christian — some people say — America to keep up attendance up.

在后基督教 ——有些人说—— 美国，保持上座率是很困难的。

They got to find some schtick.

他们必须找到一些窍门。

Every square foot.

每平方英尺。

They recently built a building between HUD and L’Enfant Plaza over the freeway.

他们最近在 HUD 和 L’Enfant 广场之间的高速公路上建造了一栋大楼。

That’s a land assessor, really, on steroids that finds every square foot, and everything is up for grabs.

这实际上是一个土地评估员，可以找到每一平方英尺，一切都可以争夺。

They have a mind for everything.

他们对一切都有想法。

When I say “foraging,” I do what the squirrels do.

当我说“觅食”时，我就做了松鼠所做的事情。

I just follow them, I tell people.

我只是跟随他们，我告诉人们。

But people’s mirror neurons kick in.

但人们的镜像神经元开始发挥作用。

They say, well, “Your brain’s fooling you into thinking that you’re doing foraging in the overflowing receptacle, to euphemize everything here.

他们说，好吧，“你的大脑欺骗了你，让你以为你正在溢出的容器中寻找食物，委婉地说这里的一切。

Automatically your higher functions are saying, “There’s no need for this.

你的高级职能会自动说：“没有必要这样做。

I don’t have to do this through my mirror neurons.” What do I do?

我不必通过我的镜像神经元来做到这一点。”我该怎么办？

Obviously, I take the money out of my pocket and go to the nearest shop to buy.

显然，我从口袋里掏出钱，去最近的商店购买。

That’s nothing to do with me.

那与我无关。

They say, “Hey, buddy.” A lot of people command me, “Go get you a lunch.” I have a beautiful platter — I’m more or less vegetarian — of rice, arroz con frijoles.

他们说：“嘿，伙计。”很多人命令我，“去给你吃午饭。”我有一个漂亮的拼盘 —— 我或多或少是素食主义者 —— 米饭、菜豆饭。

The construction workers — during the middle of the shutdown, they were the only business around for big construction projects — the Memorial, the Air and Space Museum, these buildings here.

建筑工人————在停工期间，他们是大型建筑项目的唯一生意————纪念馆、航空航天博物馆，这些建筑。

So, the hundred construction workers, and most are Hispanic — they eat their shish kebab off their platter and leave the beans, the rice, the salad.

所以，这一百名建筑工人，其中大多数是西班牙裔——他们吃掉盘子里的烤肉串，留下豆子、米饭和沙拉。

I say, “What is that?

我说：“那是什么？

That looks like .

看起来像。

.

。

.” I sniff it, and I say, “That’s green rag-based paper.

”。我闻了闻，然后说：“那是绿色的抹布纸。

I’m not a goat.

我不是山羊。

I don’t eat paper.

我不吃纸。

Look, there’s some real food here.

看，这里有一些真正的食物。

Don’t you recognize real food?”

难道你不认识真正的食物吗？”

We eat by concept until we learn otherwise.

我们按照概念吃饭，直到我们学会其他的方法。

So what was the original question on this one?

那么这个问题最初的问题是什么？

“I’ll accept that if you can add nine more zeros to it.” [editor’s note: Alexander later told us that he meant to say “add twelve more zeros to it.”] At $20 trillion, maybe I can help with the national debt.

“如果你能再加九个零，我就接受。” [编者注：亚历山大后来告诉我们，他的意思是“再加十二个零。”]如果有 20 万亿美元，也许我可以帮助偿还国家债务。

That ties into that.

这与此有关。

That’s my new minimum donation.

这是我新的最低捐款额。

Better make that $40 now because we go through a trillion a year, so have a little hedge on that.

最好现在就赚到 40 美元，因为我们每年会经历一万亿美元，所以对此要进行一些对冲。

So $30 to $40 trillion is my minimum donation.

所以 30 到 40 万亿美元是我的最低捐款额。

Everything else, I either give to the poor box, or the last one I got was $1, and I put it on the lid of the trash can.

其他的东西，我要么捐给那个可怜的盒子，要么我最后得到的一个是 1 美元，然后我把它放在垃圾桶的盖子上。

There’s a lot of competition, people going over the same cans, but I still manage to feed myself and my fellow omnivore here .

竞争很激烈，人们吃同样的罐头，但我仍然设法养活自己和我的杂食动物同伴。

The specific question was what would you do to —

具体问题是你会做什么 ——

You didn’t ask about the Mitch Snyder shelter that he twisted Reagan’s arm to refinance and all that.

你没有问过米奇·斯奈德庇护所，他扭动里根的手臂进行再融资等等。

I was there, talking with Mitch with the planning and stuff, and he was $200,000 short of having individual partitions.

我在那里与 Mitch 讨论规划和其他事宜，他还差 20 万美元才能拥有单独的分区。

The way I left it, it was five people in two double bunks in a common space.

在我离开的时候，五个人睡在一个公共空间的两个双层床位上。

Alexander the Grate with James Deutsch

亚历山大大帝与詹姆斯·多伊奇

PDS — personal differentiated space — that is the bottom line, preferably in community.

PDS — 个人差异化空间 — 这是底线，最好是社区。

That’s my optimum.

这是我的最佳选择。

You have your own space, but you have access to an immediate community.

您拥有自己的空间，但您可以访问直接社区。

You have the best of both.

你拥有两者最好的。

They’re learning that in senior citizen housing, now.

他们现在正在老年人住房中了解到这一点。

Give them their own rooms and their private bathrooms, but there’s a beautiful social space with common Wi-Fi and cable and everything else in the living room.

为他们提供自己的房间和私人浴室，但还有一个美丽的社交空间，配有公共 Wi-Fi 和有线电视以及客厅中的其他一切。

That’s a perfect setting.

这是一个完美的设置。

You can satisfy both needs of man.

你可以满足人的这两种需求。